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<v Speaker 1>Weird things, weird, weird, weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Bledsoe Said So everybody tonight. We are joined

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<v Speaker 2>by my brother, Chris Bledsoe Junior. It's been a while,

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<v Speaker 2>it's been about a year. Before we get into that.

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<v Speaker 2>There's three things that right off the bat I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about. So first and foremost, we do have

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<v Speaker 2>our Instagram if you want to stay up to date

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<v Speaker 2>on what's going on with us currently. You know, we

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<v Speaker 2>post clips of the show every week, but most importantly

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<v Speaker 2>we tend to announce our schedule with public events and

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<v Speaker 2>just anything that we've got going on in our corner. Secondly,

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<v Speaker 2>we do have our website, Bletso said so dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Check us out on there. It has like all of

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<v Speaker 2>our links for our YouTube, for our show, for our shop,

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<v Speaker 2>for all of these these things that you know are

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<v Speaker 2>relevant to our Bletso said So sphere. And then lastly,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to support the show, we do have

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<v Speaker 2>a Patreon that has two tiers with a variety of

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<v Speaker 2>benefits like our wonderful discord community and the five dollars tier,

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<v Speaker 2>and on the ten dollar tier you get your name

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<v Speaker 2>in the show credits in addition to discounts on merchandise

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<v Speaker 2>and all of the previous tiers. So anyway, without further ado,

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<v Speaker 2>how you feeling, JR?

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<v Speaker 3>Terrific?

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<v Speaker 2>Nice? I would have been confused if you if it

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<v Speaker 2>was any different.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, usually pretty happy, go lucky. But for all the

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<v Speaker 3>people listening, I've been remodeling Ryan's house again. Yeah, doing

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<v Speaker 3>some stuff and preparations. And it's been a long day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's been it's been a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm good. Yeah, I'm hyped. You guys off all

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<v Speaker 3>my toys.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we do have some toys.

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<v Speaker 3>I brought my beauty.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what's her name?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I haven't gotten that far yet. I haven't even

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<v Speaker 3>thought the namer. Why don't we Why don't we ask

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<v Speaker 3>the people who watch the show? What the namer?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, ridiculous. Well yeah, that's that's a strong contender.

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<v Speaker 2>I see the name Virtue on the hopper there. That's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah that's a Virtue Spire loader. Yeah, the Virtue Spire five.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like the newest gen loader. But it's actually really cool.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all electric. You have a little button there to

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<v Speaker 3>turn it on and it hears the vibrations from what

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<v Speaker 3>I understand, and when the gun shoots it, hears it,

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<v Speaker 3>it feels it, and it sees it, and it knows

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<v Speaker 3>how many how fast to spin to feed the ball

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<v Speaker 3>ten point five balls per second.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's what it's. You've been really into paintball lately.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Nice. Yeah, And I kind of do that with hobbies.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm constantly back and forth between several different hobbies that

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<v Speaker 3>I like to do, bank ball, magic, the gathering, flying

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<v Speaker 3>model airplanes, fishing. I just kind of bounce back and

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<v Speaker 3>forth to them constantly. Yeah, this year, I'm doing paintball.

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<v Speaker 3>Who knows, next year I might be flying freaking kites.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, awesome, I'll do it. I haven't played paintball in

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<v Speaker 2>a minute. I'm not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a lot of fun, man. That's how I get

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<v Speaker 3>closer to God. Yeah, kind of. You know, this is

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<v Speaker 3>my happy place. That's where I meditate. It's where I

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<v Speaker 3>forget about the rest of the world and all my

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<v Speaker 3>issues that I have. I can just you know, focusing

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<v Speaker 3>on what I love and be happy and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>connect with other people, my friends. Yeah. I have events

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<v Speaker 3>where I will get you know, friends out. Once a

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<v Speaker 3>month every we do the last Sunday of every month,

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<v Speaker 3>me and several of my friends started it, and now

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<v Speaker 3>there's like a whole bunch of them that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they don't all come this at the same times. It

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<v Speaker 3>might be five this week or this month and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>twenty the next. You just never know who's gonna show up.

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<v Speaker 3>But we have some pretty cool, uh, some pretty cool

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<v Speaker 3>days at the at the field.

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<v Speaker 2>That's awesome, dude. I've been watching your videos. It looks

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<v Speaker 2>really fun.

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<v Speaker 3>It is, man, it really is what makes me happy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's awesome. Man, I have a lot of respect for that.

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<v Speaker 2>I I I can't remember the last time I played paintball.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was probably like fifteen years ago. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not really much into you know, super physical hort.

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<v Speaker 3>You got to have something to keep your your mind busy,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and your hands occupied. If you don't have

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<v Speaker 3>something you enjoy doing outside of work and family and

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<v Speaker 3>all that. If you don't have something you enjoy, what's

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<v Speaker 3>the purpose. Yeah, you know, it's not worth it working

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<v Speaker 3>all the time and just doing everything you're expected to

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<v Speaker 3>do all the time without some fun. You got to

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<v Speaker 3>enjoy your life. You got one. But you know, if

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<v Speaker 3>you do things that you enjoy, like paintball and and

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<v Speaker 3>and you really truly enjoy it. You know, you're you'll

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<v Speaker 3>be a happier person in the end. If you live

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<v Speaker 3>upset and always negative and griping at people and you

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<v Speaker 3>don't do anything you love. You just work, work, work, work,

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<v Speaker 3>work all the time. That's no way to live, right,

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<v Speaker 3>burn out. Yeah, it is a lot of people live

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<v Speaker 3>like that, and it's sad. It's sad to see it.

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<v Speaker 3>People stay stuck on their phones and stuff. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>they don't really get out and do stuff the way

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<v Speaker 3>they used to. And we got to get back to that, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish, man, I wish. I have hope for some

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<v Speaker 2>sort of future where we can do a lot more

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<v Speaker 2>play and a lot less work. But who knows. But

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<v Speaker 2>in other news, you've been to a lot of conferences

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<v Speaker 2>this year. Huh yep, tell me.

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<v Speaker 3>About into uh something like five of them? Yeah, or so,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, is that is that accurate? Four or

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<v Speaker 3>five in the last since May? Yeah, quite a few.

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<v Speaker 2>I think four done?

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<v Speaker 3>Done a lot?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what was that like?

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<v Speaker 3>Done a lot? It was great, It was pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm still trying to get used to talking to people

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<v Speaker 3>in the public and getting on stage I did that

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<v Speaker 3>at Contact in the desert. It was mind boggling.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>I can get out, I can get on the paintball

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<v Speaker 3>field and and and be shot at, and I'm scared

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<v Speaker 3>to death to stand on a stage and talking for

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of people. It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think you handled it really well, man, and

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<v Speaker 2>I really wanted to kind of talk about that, And

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<v Speaker 2>especially in the last year, there's been a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>growth happening where you go from not really wanting to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about any of this kind of stuff at all

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<v Speaker 2>around anybody, to sometimes sort of finding yourself on stage

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<v Speaker 2>in front of a few hundred people and you had

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<v Speaker 2>no clue We're even going to be there. I'm just curious, like,

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<v Speaker 2>what's you know, dude?

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<v Speaker 3>My Really though my younger self would I wouldn't believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>If I had, you know, told my younger self that

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<v Speaker 3>I'd be on a stage talking about UFOs, that I

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<v Speaker 3>would have thought that I was crazy, right, no freaking away,

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<v Speaker 3>that's my future. It took me a long time to

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<v Speaker 3>even accept it, you know, to be okay with it

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<v Speaker 3>that this is who I am, this is who I'm

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<v Speaker 3>supposed to be. I ran from it I hid for

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, sixteen years, right, something like that. For

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<v Speaker 3>a long time. Didn't want anything to do with it.

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<v Speaker 3>I hated it, literally. I hated UFOs or aliens or angels,

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<v Speaker 3>any of it the topic period. Hated it because I

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<v Speaker 3>would get anxiety that probably stemmed from the abuse that

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<v Speaker 3>I got from family. Yeah, you know, and it is

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like a form of abuse. If i'm I'm

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<v Speaker 3>probably wrong, and I'm sure people wouldn't see it that way,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's a religious abuse almost, you know. They because

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<v Speaker 3>of something I saw. I was this evil, horrible human

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<v Speaker 3>being for coming back from the river. I went fishing

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<v Speaker 3>and I saw something. I came home from fishing and

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<v Speaker 3>spoke about what I saw, And now I'm this horrible,

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<v Speaker 3>evil person that's been outcasted from the family that I

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<v Speaker 3>looked up to. I loved all of them. My grandma's,

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<v Speaker 3>both of them, my grandpa, God rest his soul.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, my mother, my aunt's, my uncle's, my favorite ones.

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<v Speaker 3>They all of them, Almost all of them told me

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<v Speaker 3>that I was a liar, that I was on drugs,

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<v Speaker 3>or that I was wrong or evil or messing with

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<v Speaker 3>Satan or demons, And in my mind, I just knew

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<v Speaker 3>the whole time that they were wrong. I knew what

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<v Speaker 3>I saw. I know that I'm not crazy, and really

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<v Speaker 3>the way that I felt at it as a seventeen

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<v Speaker 3>year old boy, I felt like that I felt like

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<v Speaker 3>the preacher knew everything. I felt like I could trust him.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe. I went to his Sunday preachings every year

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<v Speaker 3>of my life, for all of my until I was,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, seventeen or eighteen. Every single Sunday I went.

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<v Speaker 3>I looked up to the man I was a little baby,

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<v Speaker 3>thinking he just he knew it all, he had all

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<v Speaker 3>the answers. And I realized when I saw something that

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<v Speaker 3>he told me was demonic, and I knew in my

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<v Speaker 3>heart that I wasn't worshiping demons or doing witchcraft or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>I knew that man may not actually know all of

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<v Speaker 3>what I thought he did. He didn't, really he didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>He wasn't the person I thought he was, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and that hurt and my family, you know, the ones

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<v Speaker 3>that I looked up to and loved. I realized that

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<v Speaker 3>they weren't what I thought. They weren't this loving, kind

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<v Speaker 3>family that I expected that I grew up thinking they were.

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<v Speaker 3>Though they were hateful and judgmental, and still to this

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<v Speaker 3>day tell me, you know, and my dad especially, I

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<v Speaker 3>feel so sorry for him. People don't see it, but

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<v Speaker 3>he's badgered to death by our family still to this day.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's sad, dude. But I hated the topic UFO

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<v Speaker 3>is because of all that. Yeah, the trauma just yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>well and besides all that, it was traumatizing sing it.

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<v Speaker 3>Seeing it was scary. You know, it fucks your whole

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<v Speaker 3>world up. Excuse my language. You know, a little boy

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<v Speaker 3>or a child, any anybody that doesn't know anything about

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<v Speaker 3>this stuff. You know, they've lived their happy, go lucky

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<v Speaker 3>life doing what they do Monday through fucking Sunday. They

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<v Speaker 3>do their normal little routine, and then all of a sudden, bam,

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<v Speaker 3>they're shocked with this revelation, you know, or this new

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<v Speaker 3>knowledge that they didn't expect to have that contradicts their

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<v Speaker 3>whole way of living, right, because it kind of does

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<v Speaker 3>a great way to put it, yeah, yeah, and it

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<v Speaker 3>just it shocks you internally. It changes your soul. I

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<v Speaker 3>would go so far as to say that, and because

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<v Speaker 3>it did, it did for me. It changed my entire

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<v Speaker 3>outlook on everything, everything, especially my family and especially the Church.

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<v Speaker 3>I hate to say that because I'm a I'm a Christian.

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<v Speaker 3>I just got baptized again on last Sunday. I do.

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<v Speaker 3>I love the church, but I'm conflicted by it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I understand, understand. The Church has great teachings. Jesus was

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't think that they have it all figured

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<v Speaker 4>I have a good heart.

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<v Speaker 3>I take care of my family, and I know that

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not an evil person. I play paintball. Does that

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<v Speaker 3>make me evil? Yeah? No, I'm seeing these freaking I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not saying yes. Yeah, I'm just automatic. Does that make

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<v Speaker 3>did I summon these demons? You know? These are questions.

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<v Speaker 4>I asked myself.

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<v Speaker 3>If the Church is telling me their demons, then I

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<v Speaker 3>So where's my answer? I need a answer? The Church

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<v Speaker 3>can't provide it. So should I believe them? Should I

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<v Speaker 3>and has no idea what I'm talking about. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>I saw it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's real, but he doesn't know anything about it, and

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<v Speaker 3>what he's telling me it doesn't seem right. So I've

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<v Speaker 3>bothers you when you're when you're a devout Christian. It

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<v Speaker 3>just likes to turn my whole world upside down. I

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<v Speaker 3>a scholar. I don't know enough about the Bible. I

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<v Speaker 3>Should I believe in it? Should I not? You know?

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<v Speaker 3>So let me ask you this then, because I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's great. I do believe in it, though I want

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<v Speaker 3>to set that straight. I do believe in the Bible. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't have to, the viewer doesn't have to. I

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<v Speaker 3>believe in the teachings I was taught, but to a degree. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but there's a degree.

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<v Speaker 2>There's nothing wrong with what you're saying. All you're saying,

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<v Speaker 2>is the community that you were around in your youth? Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you begin to question things?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how to word the way that I

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<v Speaker 3>here on the microphone. But I have this feeling and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know and I never spoken to. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know how they see things. I don't know how to

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Yeah, No, you don't sound like sound like

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<v Speaker 2>a dumb ass, not at all, not at all. That's

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<v Speaker 2>why it's great. It's absolutely great.

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<v Speaker 3>The religious thing plagued me for a long time. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>the I saw demons, I'm a demon worshiper. It's evil.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't. I don't think I'm evil.

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<v Speaker 2>Well let's make that, let's make that clear. You didn't

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<v Speaker 3>No, of course I did.

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<v Speaker 2>It's what they were telling, That's what they told me. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and they still I just wanted to make that clear. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and they still tell yeah, and they still say that, And.

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<v Speaker 3>Because of that, that's what messed me up, right, and

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<v Speaker 3>they'll they'll never see it that way. It's only you know,

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<v Speaker 3>white and black. For them, it's evil. You're being deceived.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's that simple. If I, how come

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<v Speaker 3>when I pray to Jesus an orb of light appears?

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<v Speaker 3>Should I just stop praying? Right? Because that's what the

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<v Speaker 3>church is telling me, you know. I I can say,

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<v Speaker 3>or ask and it appears an orb. And I was

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<v Speaker 3>stuttering because I didn't know if I want to say

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<v Speaker 3>this or not. But I have a buddy who was

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<v Speaker 3>just in Arizona. I have the text. I can show you.

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<v Speaker 3>Him and some friends. We're in Sedona, Arizona, skywatching. The

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<v Speaker 3>guy works for PlayStation. He's a friend of mine. He

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<v Speaker 3>lives in the United Kingdom. That's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Shout out to Mark. Yes, and PlayStation and place I love.

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<v Speaker 4>I love mine.

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<v Speaker 3>I love PlayStation. It's amazing. One of the best inventions

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<v Speaker 3>of all time.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually.

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<v Speaker 3>But anyway, yeah, Mike, Mark, Mark and some friends were

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<v Speaker 3>skywatching and Sedona, Arizona, and he texted me. It was

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<v Speaker 3>like twelve thirty and he was like, yeah, we're out

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<v Speaker 3>here skywatching. We haven't seen anything. And I said, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>put some energy out there or something. Like that, and

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<v Speaker 3>I thought about it and I realized, you know that

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen Dad do it before. Like the History Channel,

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<v Speaker 3>they did this whole what did they call it, the

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<v Speaker 3>quantum entanglement thing. It was like a scientific experiment that

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<v Speaker 3>they were working on where Dad would say a prayer

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<v Speaker 3>and you can crate if I'm wrong, that's it's important,

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<v Speaker 3>that's wrong. But he would say a prayer, ID you know,

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<v Speaker 3>please show up, come and see us whatever whatever he does.

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<v Speaker 3>And somebody was in Charlotte right while we were in Fayetteville,

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<v Speaker 3>and at the precise moment when Dad would say it,

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<v Speaker 3>an orb would appear in front of us here and

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<v Speaker 3>there in Fayetteville, and at the same time in the

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<v Speaker 3>same position, and blah blah blah. Also would happened in Charlotte.

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<v Speaker 3>So I thought, what what if I could do this

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<v Speaker 3>with Mark and Sedona. You know, Dad does it, I

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<v Speaker 3>should be able to do it too. So I tried

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<v Speaker 3>it and I sent it to him in text, I

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<v Speaker 3>am going to say a prayer for you. I did

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<v Speaker 3>it at twelve thirty six. He said they're here, and

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<v Speaker 3>he sent me videos and all. So him and a

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<v Speaker 3>whole group of people, I guess they were all saying

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<v Speaker 3>a prayer too, because I texted him I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>say a prayer, so I kind of figured that if

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<v Speaker 3>I said that that he might also so say one.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I hope I'm not saying too much here

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<v Speaker 3>on this microphone.

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<v Speaker 2>No, not at all. Okay, I'm listening.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well, anyway, we both ended up saying the prayer,

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<v Speaker 3>and I thought that you know where there's many, will

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<v Speaker 3>you know where many are gathered or whatnot, that they will. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Dad is always telling us, that's what he tells us.

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<v Speaker 2>He's telling us that's what it means, a tour more

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<v Speaker 2>gathered in my name there I will be among them.

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<v Speaker 2>He's always saying, you know, the more of us around

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<v Speaker 2>trying to see orbs and everything. That's why the masky

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<v Speaker 2>watches are always a prayer.

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<v Speaker 3>And they appeared for him in Sedona, Arizona, and I

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<v Speaker 3>can show you. I'll show you the videos and the

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<v Speaker 3>text and all. I mean, whether it actually happened because

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<v Speaker 3>of the prayer I said, or the prayer he said,

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<v Speaker 3>or was it just I don't know, but it happened right,

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<v Speaker 3>and saying a freaking prayer brought it. I want a demon.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a light, a ball of light. Demons should

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<v Speaker 3>be appearing as a ball of white.

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<v Speaker 2>Right when you're praying.

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<v Speaker 3>Job, when you pray to God, people would say that

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<v Speaker 4>White or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, well that's misconstrued. It also says, and again

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I'm not necessarily a fundamental Christian, but I

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<v Speaker 2>grew up reading the same books, so I know a

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<v Speaker 2>few passages from it. And you know, again, there is

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of truth in that. I'm not saying the

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<v Speaker 2>Bible is wrong. I'm just saying there's more to it.

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<v Speaker 2>I personally would say, I'm a gnostic Christian. You know

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<v Speaker 2>there's more to it. But there is like one little

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<v Speaker 2>passage in there. No, but there's one little passage in

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<v Speaker 2>there that says something like Satan can appear as a

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<v Speaker 2>deceiving angel of light. And people are so fooled because then, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 2>if you believe the whole Bible is literally true, there's

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<v Speaker 2>another passage that says, you know, test spirits in the

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<v Speaker 2>name of Jesus. So you're using that argument, but you're

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<v Speaker 2>not even you know, so according to your belief talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the person that says that, right, according to your belief,

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<v Speaker 2>it says in the Bible that there's this magical little

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<v Speaker 2>phrase that you can say to any spirit that appears,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's basically, you say the name Jesus, and if

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<v Speaker 2>it's evil, it'll go away. Right. Well, why is it

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<v Speaker 2>that when you say the name of Jesus or you

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<v Speaker 2>say that in God, these orders are just appearing, appearing, appearing, appearing,

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<v Speaker 2>appearing weird. You're saying, I'm the dark one. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>know exactly. I'm just following your back.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, you know right here, Yeah, that was my thing.

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<v Speaker 3>There's more to it, Yeah, there's definitely more to it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that Christianity isn't wrong or bad, but people

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<v Speaker 3>are right, the people, the people translating it over time,

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<v Speaker 3>and the people still to this day translating because that's

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<v Speaker 3>what a preacher does. He just translates his way that

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<v Speaker 3>he sees it. He reads it and interprets that passage

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<v Speaker 3>the way he saw it, and then spills it out

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<v Speaker 3>to you at church. Right, And you know, not every

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<v Speaker 3>one of them preachers has it all figured out for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember that well, guys, But I remember the shock

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<v Speaker 2>as a kid of going through the exact same thing,

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<v Speaker 2>except I was thirteen and I just remember that feeling

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<v Speaker 2>of hearing how you were treated and how dad was

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<v Speaker 2>treated and it bothered you. Yeah, of course it bothered me.

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<v Speaker 2>And I had the same kind of thoughts of like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't know everything I thought they did, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>had these. I had the same thoughts with reading the

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<v Speaker 2>Bible itself, like even as a thirteen year old kid,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, wait a minute, but I thought, everything I'm

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to know about the universe is exactly within the

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<v Speaker 2>pages of this book. Why are we like hitting the

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<v Speaker 2>limit here? And there's more and there's things happening that

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<v Speaker 2>aren't necessarily described in this and they have no clue

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm talking about. So clearly all the answers can't

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<v Speaker 2>only be in these sixty six books.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>At a very young age, I started questioning, there's got

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<v Speaker 2>to be more to the truth than only the Bible.

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<v Speaker 2>But that doesn't mean that it's wrong, right, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Twisted, yeah, Or maybe they don't have all the pieces

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<v Speaker 3>of the puzzle exactly. It's like trying to solve a

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<v Speaker 3>twenty thousand piece puzzle with a thousand pieces.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's going to be a little hard, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I really hate to talk bad about any

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<v Speaker 3>of my family. I'm still still choose to have a

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<v Speaker 3>talk bad about us on Facebook and in front of everybody,

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<v Speaker 3>and especially behind our backs to the rest of the family.

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<v Speaker 3>But I still choose to have a relationship with them

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<v Speaker 3>because I love them. I just manage my expectations and

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<v Speaker 3>choose not to talk about UFOs around them, right, or

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<v Speaker 3>spirits or.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever or anything extra anything.

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<v Speaker 3>But they are, you know, probably a good reason, a

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<v Speaker 3>I would say, And I would have so much anxiety.

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<v Speaker 3>I could not sit here and look you in the

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<v Speaker 3>face and talk to you about UFOs. It's hard to

420
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<v Speaker 3>even put into words. It would literally feel like my

421
00:22:53.480 --> 00:22:56.599
<v Speaker 3>brain is going to explode or my chest, and all

422
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<v Speaker 3>I could do is cuss, you know, and run. Yeah,

423
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<v Speaker 3>That's what I would do. I would get angry and

424
00:23:03.319 --> 00:23:07.319
<v Speaker 3>yell and fuss and run and disappear for three months

425
00:23:07.319 --> 00:23:10.200
<v Speaker 3>at a time, with no text, no hey here, I

426
00:23:10.240 --> 00:23:13.440
<v Speaker 3>am just want to let y'all know, because I didn't care.

427
00:23:14.000 --> 00:23:18.200
<v Speaker 3>I was gone, right. There was times that nobody knows this,

428
00:23:18.599 --> 00:23:21.920
<v Speaker 3>but I chose to live. This is gonna sound crazy,

429
00:23:22.759 --> 00:23:28.000
<v Speaker 3>but I would rather live homeless at the beach than

430
00:23:28.119 --> 00:23:30.920
<v Speaker 3>live in a household where I had to hear all

431
00:23:31.000 --> 00:23:34.839
<v Speaker 3>that and be battered and talk down to. And even

432
00:23:34.880 --> 00:23:37.599
<v Speaker 3>my own mother didn't believe me. She didn't believe me

433
00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:41.839
<v Speaker 3>until like two years later or longer, I don't know.

434
00:23:41.920 --> 00:23:45.920
<v Speaker 3>I had surgery on my dang testicles right when I

435
00:23:45.960 --> 00:23:49.599
<v Speaker 3>was nineteen. They said I'd never have kids, right, Yeah,

436
00:23:50.359 --> 00:23:52.559
<v Speaker 3>I remember. It was because I was on a bunch

437
00:23:52.599 --> 00:23:55.759
<v Speaker 3>of medication that the doctors had doped me up to

438
00:23:55.839 --> 00:23:59.279
<v Speaker 3>do the surgery on me. On the car ride home,

439
00:23:59.599 --> 00:24:01.839
<v Speaker 3>I was freaking out because of the tail lights of

440
00:24:01.880 --> 00:24:05.039
<v Speaker 3>this transfer truck. There were big red, tall lights, and

441
00:24:05.079 --> 00:24:07.799
<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh she was. I don't remember it,

442
00:24:07.880 --> 00:24:09.759
<v Speaker 3>but she would. She told me the story. I was

443
00:24:10.000 --> 00:24:12.759
<v Speaker 3>like in my seat, freaking out, like whoa, whoa.

444
00:24:12.440 --> 00:24:12.759
<v Speaker 1>Whoa.

445
00:24:14.359 --> 00:24:18.880
<v Speaker 3>Said the eyes And she said she realized at that moment,

446
00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:22.960
<v Speaker 3>maybe he actually did see something. Maybe he's not lying.

447
00:24:22.720 --> 00:24:23.960
<v Speaker 4>About this for some reason.

448
00:24:24.400 --> 00:24:26.519
<v Speaker 2>Back then she told me that same thing, like when

449
00:24:26.519 --> 00:24:29.680
<v Speaker 2>that happened really, Yeah, so I would have just told

450
00:24:29.720 --> 00:24:30.319
<v Speaker 2>me since then.

451
00:24:31.359 --> 00:24:35.279
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, for for the longest time, she didn't believe me,

452
00:24:36.039 --> 00:24:40.000
<v Speaker 3>and for those two years or so, were nobody in

453
00:24:40.039 --> 00:24:42.279
<v Speaker 3>my household. I felt like nobody in my household believed

454
00:24:42.319 --> 00:24:45.039
<v Speaker 3>me except for my father, and he wouldn't stop talking

455
00:24:45.039 --> 00:24:48.279
<v Speaker 3>about it. And I didn't want to talk about it.

456
00:24:48.319 --> 00:24:50.480
<v Speaker 3>I didn't, you know. I didn't want to be looked

457
00:24:50.480 --> 00:24:52.480
<v Speaker 3>at as a liar, and I didn't want to talk

458
00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:56.440
<v Speaker 3>about it, you know. But I still cared that they

459
00:24:56.480 --> 00:24:59.720
<v Speaker 3>didn't believe me. You know, I still cared that even

460
00:24:59.759 --> 00:25:02.359
<v Speaker 3>though didn't want to talk about it. I guess it's

461
00:25:02.400 --> 00:25:05.519
<v Speaker 3>because everybody was like, you know, you're a fucking liar

462
00:25:05.640 --> 00:25:07.359
<v Speaker 3>or this or that that I that I ran, I

463
00:25:07.359 --> 00:25:07.839
<v Speaker 3>don't know.

464
00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:10.960
<v Speaker 2>Dude, you were a child, yeah, you know.

465
00:25:11.079 --> 00:25:14.960
<v Speaker 3>I legit lived homeless for weeks or a month one

466
00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:18.480
<v Speaker 3>time on purpose. I had a house, I had a bed,

467
00:25:18.519 --> 00:25:20.799
<v Speaker 3>I had a place to live. But I would rather

468
00:25:20.920 --> 00:25:24.039
<v Speaker 3>had lived out on the beach with no clothes, no

469
00:25:24.359 --> 00:25:27.240
<v Speaker 3>nothing to wear, the same shirt for like two or

470
00:25:27.240 --> 00:25:31.599
<v Speaker 3>three weeks, then live at home where I had to

471
00:25:31.640 --> 00:25:34.920
<v Speaker 3>deal with that. And I did that a lot. That

472
00:25:34.920 --> 00:25:37.640
<v Speaker 3>that was just one specific time, I lived at this

473
00:25:37.880 --> 00:25:42.119
<v Speaker 3>uh in Jacksonville, at the beach, and I lived there

474
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<v Speaker 3>for a while homeless.

475
00:25:43.279 --> 00:25:43.920
<v Speaker 2>California.

476
00:25:44.319 --> 00:25:46.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I went to California. I went to Calamuzoo. I

477
00:25:46.480 --> 00:25:52.000
<v Speaker 3>went all over, dude. I went everywhere, and I lived.

478
00:25:52.039 --> 00:25:55.480
<v Speaker 3>I went through some hard times that you know, the

479
00:25:55.559 --> 00:25:57.119
<v Speaker 3>majority of people they.

480
00:25:57.000 --> 00:25:57.680
<v Speaker 4>Don't know about.

481
00:25:58.759 --> 00:26:02.000
<v Speaker 3>But it was all my doing. You know. I wanted

482
00:26:02.039 --> 00:26:05.119
<v Speaker 3>to be that way. I didn't want to be home.

483
00:26:05.160 --> 00:26:07.359
<v Speaker 3>I didn't want to be around family. I didn't want

484
00:26:07.400 --> 00:26:10.440
<v Speaker 3>to I wanted to.

485
00:26:09.839 --> 00:26:12.559
<v Speaker 4>Be done with everything. You know, I hated everything.

486
00:26:12.920 --> 00:26:14.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's that's.

487
00:26:14.559 --> 00:26:17.920
<v Speaker 3>At one time, we had a good reputation, a great

488
00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:21.119
<v Speaker 3>one when I was younger. You know, I was an

489
00:26:21.119 --> 00:26:23.119
<v Speaker 3>adult when when all this happened.

490
00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:24.359
<v Speaker 4>Pretty much, I was seventeen.

491
00:26:25.119 --> 00:26:31.400
<v Speaker 3>I grew up working the cruise, Dad's cruise and working

492
00:26:31.480 --> 00:26:34.200
<v Speaker 3>under this freaking empire you know we had. We were

493
00:26:34.200 --> 00:26:36.839
<v Speaker 3>building one hundred houses a year. I was an adult

494
00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:41.640
<v Speaker 3>pretty much, right, So I had this amazing reputation. I

495
00:26:41.680 --> 00:26:47.480
<v Speaker 3>had fourteen four wheelers and dirt bikes, and and a

496
00:26:47.559 --> 00:26:52.000
<v Speaker 3>two hundred thousand dollars RV and model airplanes twenty of them,

497
00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:55.559
<v Speaker 3>and and you know everything. I had it all, and

498
00:26:55.599 --> 00:26:59.119
<v Speaker 3>then to go from that to you know, a wonderful

499
00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:04.519
<v Speaker 3>reputation everything I wanted to having nothing all in a

500
00:27:04.599 --> 00:27:08.720
<v Speaker 3>year or two and seeing freaking UFOs and everybody, you know,

501
00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:12.079
<v Speaker 3>being going from being like the fucking bleds, because at

502
00:27:12.119 --> 00:27:14.400
<v Speaker 3>one time that meant something in favor of North Carolina

503
00:27:14.599 --> 00:27:17.480
<v Speaker 3>when I was coming up. If you were a blood

504
00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:21.079
<v Speaker 3>so like, that was something. Dude, you're you run the

505
00:27:21.119 --> 00:27:24.559
<v Speaker 3>freaking we built all the houses, We were big time,

506
00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:28.039
<v Speaker 3>we kind of were, you know. And then to go

507
00:27:28.119 --> 00:27:30.759
<v Speaker 3>from all that to like the lowest being on earth

508
00:27:31.039 --> 00:27:33.640
<v Speaker 3>that everybody that that I looked up to or looked

509
00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:37.000
<v Speaker 3>up to me, you know, look down on that shit

510
00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:37.599
<v Speaker 3>was crushing.

511
00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:41.279
<v Speaker 2>It's traumatizing. Yeah, it doesn't even describe it. The word

512
00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:42.640
<v Speaker 2>traumatizing doesn't even I went.

513
00:27:42.559 --> 00:27:45.160
<v Speaker 3>From having all that to choosing to live homeless because I.

514
00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:46.200
<v Speaker 4>Didn't want to be around it.

515
00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:50.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you sire, if you even knew any of that, well,

516
00:27:50.200 --> 00:27:52.079
<v Speaker 3>he is a homeless thing. I did did.

517
00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:54.880
<v Speaker 2>These are all things of course I did. I've lived

518
00:27:54.880 --> 00:27:57.279
<v Speaker 2>in the same house that you weren't in for months

519
00:27:57.279 --> 00:27:57.640
<v Speaker 2>at a time.

520
00:27:57.839 --> 00:28:00.599
<v Speaker 3>I didn't exactly tell everybody what I was doing either.

521
00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:02.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I always knew later when they would have

522
00:28:02.519 --> 00:28:03.880
<v Speaker 2>to go and get you because you were ready to

523
00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:06.279
<v Speaker 2>come home. You know, I was aware of things manimally.

524
00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:08.880
<v Speaker 2>These are all things that I've implicitly known that you've

525
00:28:08.920 --> 00:28:11.559
<v Speaker 2>not necessarily said out loud for the first time. So

526
00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:14.720
<v Speaker 2>thank you. But you know, let's shift gears for a

527
00:28:14.759 --> 00:28:17.119
<v Speaker 2>moment because and we can go on and on and

528
00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:18.599
<v Speaker 2>on about that all you'd like, but I have I

529
00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:23.319
<v Speaker 2>have a question. Why do you think that it would

530
00:28:23.359 --> 00:28:25.440
<v Speaker 2>go down this way? Do you think that there's and

531
00:28:25.480 --> 00:28:27.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm seriously asking, I want to know what you believe.

532
00:28:27.640 --> 00:28:30.480
<v Speaker 3>Well, I think now why what I actually believe is

533
00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:33.279
<v Speaker 3>I think it had to happen that way. I think

534
00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:37.000
<v Speaker 3>that that trauma is effed up as it is, and

535
00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:41.640
<v Speaker 3>and all that that I went through was necessary. I

536
00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:45.279
<v Speaker 3>think I had to go through all that to be

537
00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:49.119
<v Speaker 3>the happy, go lucky, happy person that I am today.

538
00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:53.680
<v Speaker 3>I feel like when you've gone through so fucking much

539
00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:56.319
<v Speaker 3>that you're at your breaking point, you know, like you

540
00:28:56.559 --> 00:29:00.119
<v Speaker 3>just can't go through anymore. You've been through it all,

541
00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:03.119
<v Speaker 3>you went through the freaking Ringer. I think that's what

542
00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:06.279
<v Speaker 3>makes a happy person. You know, I could be wrong,

543
00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:09.839
<v Speaker 3>but that's kind of how it was for me, Like

544
00:29:09.920 --> 00:29:13.720
<v Speaker 3>I can enjoy just normal, everyday life and do almost

545
00:29:13.720 --> 00:29:16.400
<v Speaker 3>nothing and I and I'm happy with that because I

546
00:29:16.440 --> 00:29:19.119
<v Speaker 3>went from living the way that I did to now

547
00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:21.680
<v Speaker 3>my life's great. You know, I got a home, I

548
00:29:21.720 --> 00:29:23.680
<v Speaker 3>got kids, I have a job. I can come and

549
00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:25.920
<v Speaker 3>go as I please. I don't have to listen to

550
00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:29.440
<v Speaker 3>anything if I don't want to. You know, I don't know,

551
00:29:31.119 --> 00:29:33.480
<v Speaker 3>but I'm happy all the time. And that's what I

552
00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:35.960
<v Speaker 3>was getting at. I think that when you went through

553
00:29:36.039 --> 00:29:39.200
<v Speaker 3>enough struggles and you come out on the other side,

554
00:29:39.240 --> 00:29:42.119
<v Speaker 3>I think that makes a happy person. Is that crazy

555
00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:43.000
<v Speaker 3>to think? Not at all?

556
00:29:43.079 --> 00:29:44.880
<v Speaker 2>I think that's very wise.

557
00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:47.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, huh. I think I've always kind of wondered

558
00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:50.319
<v Speaker 3>that because I am normally a happy, go lucky person

559
00:29:50.519 --> 00:29:52.839
<v Speaker 3>all the time, pretty much almost all the time.

560
00:29:53.039 --> 00:29:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Almost all the time, I'm.

561
00:29:54.359 --> 00:29:57.799
<v Speaker 3>Almost always a happy, go lucky person, and most people

562
00:29:57.839 --> 00:30:01.319
<v Speaker 3>around me aren't like that negative all the time. It's true,

563
00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:03.920
<v Speaker 3>and I get in negative spurts as well. I was

564
00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:06.640
<v Speaker 3>like that today at some point. We all do. Yeah,

565
00:30:06.640 --> 00:30:08.200
<v Speaker 3>it's kind of rare for me.

566
00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:11.519
<v Speaker 2>I think it's completely okay to sometimes feel beaten down

567
00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:13.319
<v Speaker 2>by the world and feel like you just don't have

568
00:30:13.400 --> 00:30:17.799
<v Speaker 2>any positivity to muster. That's totally fine, that's natural as

569
00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:21.359
<v Speaker 2>part of being human. We have hard days, you know.

570
00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:24.400
<v Speaker 2>Not every acorn that falls from the oak tree grows

571
00:30:24.440 --> 00:30:26.759
<v Speaker 2>into a tree. Sometimes nature just grinds it down and

572
00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:29.599
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't always go the way that you know, that

573
00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:32.839
<v Speaker 2>acorn wanted to grow. Sorry, sometimes nature is a little cruel,

574
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:37.000
<v Speaker 2>and that's just the sad truth about reality, right, Yeah,

575
00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:41.599
<v Speaker 2>but you know, metaphors aside. Yeah, I would say I

576
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:44.519
<v Speaker 2>completely agree with you. I think I think there's something

577
00:30:44.559 --> 00:30:47.759
<v Speaker 2>really profound about what you said. And Dad is always saying,

578
00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:50.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, for every interview that people have seen online

579
00:30:50.839 --> 00:30:53.559
<v Speaker 2>of our father taught at this point, it's hundreds and

580
00:30:53.640 --> 00:30:58.200
<v Speaker 2>hundreds of hours across you know, hundreds of programs. Multiply

581
00:30:58.359 --> 00:31:02.000
<v Speaker 2>that by one hundred, and that's the amount of like

582
00:31:02.119 --> 00:31:04.880
<v Speaker 2>conversation that our dad is telling us this stuff over

583
00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:09.039
<v Speaker 2>and over and over and over and over again again

584
00:31:09.160 --> 00:31:12.440
<v Speaker 2>and again, you know, and way more beating it and

585
00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:15.799
<v Speaker 2>beaten it into our heads, like teaching us about this thing,

586
00:31:16.039 --> 00:31:18.000
<v Speaker 2>make it, you know, he pretty much he told me

587
00:31:18.079 --> 00:31:19.920
<v Speaker 2>that today on the phone. I called him right before

588
00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:21.519
<v Speaker 2>Alex came and he was just telling me. He's like,

589
00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:24.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, I've been teaching you this your whole life

590
00:31:24.799 --> 00:31:27.400
<v Speaker 2>for a reason, you know, so that you can understand

591
00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:29.680
<v Speaker 2>how the orbs work and everything. And he's really brilliant

592
00:31:29.720 --> 00:31:33.480
<v Speaker 2>in many ways. Yeah, Yeah, he's really brilliant in that.

593
00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:34.839
<v Speaker 4>He is very brilliant.

594
00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:39.400
<v Speaker 3>Ye, he's very good at super happy that he did

595
00:31:39.400 --> 00:31:42.160
<v Speaker 3>what he did, even though it was tough and even

596
00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:45.119
<v Speaker 3>though you know, his son hated him for a time.

597
00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:47.720
<v Speaker 3>That would have been enough to make me quit right then.

598
00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:50.759
<v Speaker 3>You know, if Teddy was mad at me and hated

599
00:31:50.799 --> 00:31:52.119
<v Speaker 3>me because I was talking, I would have never talked

600
00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:56.519
<v Speaker 3>about a UFO again. But he has a certain level

601
00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:57.799
<v Speaker 3>of courage.

602
00:31:57.319 --> 00:31:58.119
<v Speaker 4>That I don't have.

603
00:31:58.880 --> 00:32:01.759
<v Speaker 3>That's why he was picked.

604
00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:02.799
<v Speaker 4>I think, I don't.

605
00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Know, he has a level of No, I don't think

606
00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:07.599
<v Speaker 2>you're wrong. I think if we're going to be honest

607
00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:09.200
<v Speaker 2>about our father, I think he has a level of

608
00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:13.039
<v Speaker 2>courage and resilience there's very few men.

609
00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:14.200
<v Speaker 3>Very few have.

610
00:32:14.519 --> 00:32:16.240
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's one of the real ones.

611
00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:20.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's a g G, straight up G he is,

612
00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:21.319
<v Speaker 2>and people.

613
00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:25.400
<v Speaker 3>Just yeah Abraham Lincoln type mother.

614
00:32:26.200 --> 00:32:30.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, seriously, he's kind of likes he's a really smart guy.

615
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:33.319
<v Speaker 2>But but but back to what we were just talking about,

616
00:32:33.319 --> 00:32:35.279
<v Speaker 2>because I think you've said a lot of really why stuff,

617
00:32:35.319 --> 00:32:38.200
<v Speaker 2>and also I had just full disclosures. I had no

618
00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:40.279
<v Speaker 2>clue this conversation was going to go this way. But

619
00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:42.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm really happy that it did. Oh really yeah, No,

620
00:32:43.119 --> 00:32:46.079
<v Speaker 2>I asked the question like, hey, so I wasn't doing

621
00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:52.359
<v Speaker 2>conferences and that's great, that's great, that's fine. I'm thrilled.

622
00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:55.039
<v Speaker 2>I just wanted the viewer to understand. We didn't talk

623
00:32:55.079 --> 00:32:57.240
<v Speaker 2>about any of this stuff beforehand. This is all from

624
00:32:57.279 --> 00:33:01.319
<v Speaker 2>the heart. It's all from the heart, and it's act.

625
00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:02.640
<v Speaker 3>She didn't even know I was going to be doing

626
00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:05.480
<v Speaker 3>this today. I was supposed to be home. Yeah, and

627
00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:07.440
<v Speaker 3>then it just turned out I ended up working late

628
00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:09.400
<v Speaker 3>and I was like, hey, dude, I might stay after all.

629
00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:13.279
<v Speaker 3>You want a film. You were like, yeah, it's pretty

630
00:33:13.319 --> 00:33:15.119
<v Speaker 3>much exactly that's the best case scenario.

631
00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:18.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's pretty much exactly what happened. But back to

632
00:33:18.160 --> 00:33:21.039
<v Speaker 2>the question, right, So I asked you, you know, why

633
00:33:21.039 --> 00:33:23.279
<v Speaker 2>do you think it happened this way? But let me reiterate,

634
00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:27.640
<v Speaker 2>why do you think that for the first time that

635
00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:29.400
<v Speaker 2>the beings appeared to you, it was scary?

636
00:33:29.799 --> 00:33:32.839
<v Speaker 3>Why do you think I think It had to be

637
00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:35.599
<v Speaker 3>that way, yeah, because it wouldn't have gotten my attention,

638
00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:38.799
<v Speaker 3>and it wouldn't have made an everlasting mark that I

639
00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:43.319
<v Speaker 3>remember sixteen years later the way that I do. If

640
00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:48.119
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't traumatizing, it wouldn't have shifted my life the

641
00:33:48.160 --> 00:33:51.160
<v Speaker 3>way that it did and change me as a human being.

642
00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:53.640
<v Speaker 3>If it were something I'd forget about in a minute

643
00:33:53.720 --> 00:33:57.039
<v Speaker 3>or two. If it were just a normal, everyday occurrence,

644
00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:00.759
<v Speaker 3>we get a lot of comment forgotten, you know, or

645
00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:03.440
<v Speaker 3>it wouldn't have been such a big deal. But because

646
00:34:03.480 --> 00:34:07.279
<v Speaker 3>it was such a jolt, that's why I will never

647
00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:11.599
<v Speaker 3>forget it, you know. That's it changes you at your core.

648
00:34:11.840 --> 00:34:14.360
<v Speaker 3>And that had to happen because who I was wasn't

649
00:34:14.400 --> 00:34:18.360
<v Speaker 3>a great person. I was not a great person. The

650
00:34:18.360 --> 00:34:21.639
<v Speaker 3>person I am now is so different from who I

651
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:26.719
<v Speaker 3>was then. Dude, I was a killer. Okay, that's a fact,

652
00:34:26.920 --> 00:34:28.880
<v Speaker 3>you know. That's it sounds crazy in the sa it

653
00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:34.800
<v Speaker 3>on camera, but I was a killing machine when I

654
00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:38.679
<v Speaker 3>was younger, That's true. I don't know anybody that's killed

655
00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:41.199
<v Speaker 3>as many animals as I have. Is that okay? To say?

656
00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:44.519
<v Speaker 3>On here? Nobody knows it, deer hunter. Yeah, you know,

657
00:34:44.599 --> 00:34:47.280
<v Speaker 3>I grew up with a family that deer hunted and

658
00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:51.360
<v Speaker 3>raccoon hunted, and squirrel hunted, and duck hunted and freaking

659
00:34:51.480 --> 00:34:57.199
<v Speaker 3>bear hunted. And I did that stuff religiously my whole

660
00:34:57.280 --> 00:35:04.119
<v Speaker 3>first sixteen years. How you tell them when all the

661
00:35:04.159 --> 00:35:06.599
<v Speaker 3>other kids were playing video games, what was I doing?

662
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:09.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you were probably out doing stuff like that. That's

663
00:35:10.119 --> 00:35:12.039
<v Speaker 2>in the backyard with a freaking BB gun.

664
00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:13.440
<v Speaker 3>That was the yep.

665
00:35:13.559 --> 00:35:15.559
<v Speaker 2>That was just a family culture. It was like hunting

666
00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:17.320
<v Speaker 2>and fishing when I was little.

667
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:20.280
<v Speaker 3>Instead of just saying games all the time, I would

668
00:35:20.360 --> 00:35:24.599
<v Speaker 3>be hunting in the backyard just for fun, you know,

669
00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:28.320
<v Speaker 3>I would be practicing. I'd be shooting my pellet rifle

670
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:34.199
<v Speaker 3>for every every birthday for the first fourteen years of

671
00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:38.159
<v Speaker 3>my life. Papa Ted bought me a BB gun every year.

672
00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:40.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you remember that. But by the

673
00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:45.719
<v Speaker 3>next year, by the next birthday, that last gun that

674
00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:48.239
<v Speaker 3>he got me would be so worn out it would

675
00:35:48.320 --> 00:35:51.320
<v Speaker 3>not even shoot, wouldn't hold air. I did that to

676
00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:53.599
<v Speaker 3>many guns. I would shoot them until they couldn't be

677
00:35:53.639 --> 00:35:56.519
<v Speaker 3>shot anymore, and he'd have me a new one on

678
00:35:56.559 --> 00:35:59.440
<v Speaker 3>my birthday, and I would shoot and shoot and shoot.

679
00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:02.239
<v Speaker 3>I'd kill girls and birds and shoot targets in the

680
00:36:02.280 --> 00:36:05.199
<v Speaker 3>backyard just for the hell of it. And that's wrong.

681
00:36:05.960 --> 00:36:08.280
<v Speaker 3>The killing for sport is wrong.

682
00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:11.119
<v Speaker 2>I always felt that way.

683
00:36:11.199 --> 00:36:13.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I I didn't feel that way. I didn't have

684
00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:16.639
<v Speaker 3>any remorse, but I do now. I don't know if

685
00:36:16.679 --> 00:36:19.079
<v Speaker 3>it has something to do with the UFOs. I'm not

686
00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:21.239
<v Speaker 3>claiming that. You know, there's a lot of people who

687
00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:23.079
<v Speaker 3>believe it does have something to do with it, and

688
00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:26.320
<v Speaker 3>maybe it does. I don't know, but I was, you know,

689
00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:29.880
<v Speaker 3>I love to hunt. I love to shoot animals, you know,

690
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:32.880
<v Speaker 3>deer and bear. I loved it. I loved getting in

691
00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:35.599
<v Speaker 3>that stand. I love shooting My thirty out six had

692
00:36:35.639 --> 00:36:37.960
<v Speaker 3>a big old deer. I loved watching it hit the deer.

693
00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:40.519
<v Speaker 3>I loved watching the deer run off. And I loved

694
00:36:40.519 --> 00:36:43.360
<v Speaker 3>getting down there and tracking the deer all night long

695
00:36:43.400 --> 00:36:45.280
<v Speaker 3>if I had to. And I loved hanging him up

696
00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:48.519
<v Speaker 3>and skinning him. I loved cutting him up. I love

697
00:36:48.639 --> 00:36:51.079
<v Speaker 3>cooking him. I love eating him. And then I loved,

698
00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:52.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, setting the corn out and doing it again

699
00:36:53.639 --> 00:36:55.920
<v Speaker 3>or whatever. I just loved the whole thing, every bit

700
00:36:55.960 --> 00:37:00.719
<v Speaker 3>about it. And I'm not like that anymore. I don't

701
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:02.719
<v Speaker 3>think it's right to hunt like that. I don't think

702
00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:06.719
<v Speaker 3>it's right to shoot little innocent animals that way. You know,

703
00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:11.079
<v Speaker 3>they're innocent, little creatures. They're meant to be used for

704
00:37:11.159 --> 00:37:13.360
<v Speaker 3>our sustenance, but not for sport.

705
00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:14.440
<v Speaker 4>You know, you should be.

706
00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:16.559
<v Speaker 3>Out there just killing the little thing because you'll want

707
00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:19.599
<v Speaker 3>to kill something. That's wrong. But if you need to eat,

708
00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:24.079
<v Speaker 3>I don't think there's anything wrong with hunting to survive, right.

709
00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:27.880
<v Speaker 3>You know, if you're praying for your food and you're

710
00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:31.559
<v Speaker 3>honoring it and you're doing it that way, that's that's

711
00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:34.840
<v Speaker 3>totally cool. Same with fishing. But just to get out

712
00:37:34.840 --> 00:37:37.159
<v Speaker 3>there and kill stuff, just to do it, man, that's

713
00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:39.320
<v Speaker 3>that's crazy. And that's the kind of person I was.

714
00:37:39.719 --> 00:37:42.719
<v Speaker 3>And there's that's just one thing. There's several other things.

715
00:37:43.239 --> 00:37:48.079
<v Speaker 3>You know, me and Dad both changed drastically. The people

716
00:37:48.159 --> 00:37:50.039
<v Speaker 3>we were then and the people we are now.

717
00:37:49.960 --> 00:37:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Is after the event, Yeah, after the original.

718
00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:56.440
<v Speaker 3>It's crazy. Yeah, it really is. It really is, because

719
00:37:56.840 --> 00:37:59.719
<v Speaker 3>you know, I hunted in twenty twenty two. I think

720
00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:02.400
<v Speaker 3>never I didn't kill anything, but I wanted to get

721
00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:04.320
<v Speaker 3>back out there, like there's still part of me that

722
00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:06.840
<v Speaker 3>wants to fill a freezer up. You know, there's still

723
00:38:06.880 --> 00:38:08.400
<v Speaker 3>part of me that wants to do it like my

724
00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:11.119
<v Speaker 3>I do with my grandpa, get in the stand, and

725
00:38:11.519 --> 00:38:13.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, I want I want it. Sometimes I want

726
00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:16.000
<v Speaker 3>to kill a deer. I haven't killed a deer, and

727
00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:18.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, a long, long, long, long long time. I

728
00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:21.559
<v Speaker 3>didn't kill one that year, didn't. You know. I don't

729
00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:23.360
<v Speaker 3>have a lot of free time, and it just you know,

730
00:38:23.400 --> 00:38:26.000
<v Speaker 3>it was a quick it was a fling. And I

731
00:38:28.079 --> 00:38:30.440
<v Speaker 3>don't know, I just I don't. I don't feel like

732
00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:35.320
<v Speaker 3>that's who I am anymore. I'm not eager to get

733
00:38:35.360 --> 00:38:39.000
<v Speaker 3>back out there. If if I ever were to hunt again,

734
00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:41.960
<v Speaker 3>it would be specifically just to eat food that's not

735
00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:46.679
<v Speaker 3>tampered with and and you know, without chemicals, because the

736
00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:49.519
<v Speaker 3>stuff we eat now is pretty bad. You know, the

737
00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:52.599
<v Speaker 3>chemicals they put in the food and and all is

738
00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:56.119
<v Speaker 3>just terrible. It's crazy. The food that the cows eat,

739
00:38:56.599 --> 00:38:59.199
<v Speaker 3>even the stuff they eats bad, you know, so it

740
00:38:59.199 --> 00:38:59.880
<v Speaker 3>makes them bad.

741
00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:04.760
<v Speaker 2>So you obviously, I think that's great because you and

742
00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:07.360
<v Speaker 2>I have never actually verbat him to discussed this, but it

743
00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:10.920
<v Speaker 2>is in Dad's book and people, you know, it's not

744
00:39:10.920 --> 00:39:14.519
<v Speaker 2>really elaborated on that much. It kind of is. But

745
00:39:14.679 --> 00:39:16.559
<v Speaker 2>like our dad was obviously a big bear hunter. All

746
00:39:16.599 --> 00:39:18.079
<v Speaker 2>the stuff that Chris was saying. You know, we were

747
00:39:18.079 --> 00:39:20.639
<v Speaker 2>a family of hunters still are not not just us,

748
00:39:20.679 --> 00:39:23.480
<v Speaker 2>but everyone else around us. I mean we're from We're

749
00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:27.320
<v Speaker 2>from Fayetteville, North Carolina, like you guys out there South, Yeah,

750
00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:29.639
<v Speaker 2>all around the world, like watching us on the internet,

751
00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:31.440
<v Speaker 2>you have no you know you hear me, I don't

752
00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:34.360
<v Speaker 2>really have a country accent. Go look up YouTube videos

753
00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:37.760
<v Speaker 2>of Fayetteville, North Carolina. Can you imagine having the magnitude

754
00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:40.719
<v Speaker 2>of experience that Chris Junior had as a young child

755
00:39:41.440 --> 00:39:45.000
<v Speaker 2>on the verge of adulthood and being like as he explained,

756
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:46.840
<v Speaker 2>which I never really talk about, but it is true.

757
00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:49.719
<v Speaker 2>The name Bloodstoe used to mean something in our community.

758
00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:50.559
<v Speaker 3>In our community, and.

759
00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:53.880
<v Speaker 2>It went from meaning something to you know, being mocked

760
00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:58.960
<v Speaker 2>and revised. No, I know what you're trying to say.

761
00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:01.039
<v Speaker 3>That's how it was looked at. When I was sixteen

762
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:01.800
<v Speaker 3>or seventeen.

763
00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:02.719
<v Speaker 2>We were respected.

764
00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:06.320
<v Speaker 3>We were big time and then and then we were

765
00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:08.320
<v Speaker 3>that was building one hundred houses a year and had

766
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:12.800
<v Speaker 3>over one hundred employees. Dad did well over one hundred employees.

767
00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:17.079
<v Speaker 3>Papa Ted had twenty framing crews. Wow, and like two

768
00:40:17.239 --> 00:40:19.400
<v Speaker 3>hundred men or something like that working for him. Our

769
00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:23.519
<v Speaker 3>Papa Tad. That's how he was doing it. Bro, Papa Dickens,

770
00:40:23.679 --> 00:40:27.079
<v Speaker 3>our grandfather, my mama's daddy. He was bad. I could

771
00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:30.519
<v Speaker 3>be wrong. Three hundred houses a year, that's a lot.

772
00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:32.880
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, our name meant something. Dude. We lived in

773
00:40:32.920 --> 00:40:35.199
<v Speaker 3>a million dollar home, seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars

774
00:40:35.239 --> 00:40:37.639
<v Speaker 3>home with a one hundred thousand dollars pool in the backyard,

775
00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:42.079
<v Speaker 3>a two hundred thousand dollars RV. We were doing it big. Like.

776
00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:46.119
<v Speaker 3>Our family was well known. It was very respected. Nobody

777
00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:49.400
<v Speaker 3>would dare say something bad about Dad back then. Dude.

778
00:40:49.400 --> 00:40:52.119
<v Speaker 3>He built all the military guys houses, all the police

779
00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:55.280
<v Speaker 3>officers' houses, most of the military guys they'd buy houses

780
00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:57.000
<v Speaker 3>from Bloodsoae Construction back then.

781
00:40:57.119 --> 00:40:59.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he built most of the houses Willington back in

782
00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:01.719
<v Speaker 2>the day, and just everywhere a thousand homes in between.

783
00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:03.400
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's just stops.

784
00:41:03.719 --> 00:41:07.360
<v Speaker 3>Really was the drug enforcement agents and all dude.

785
00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:10.119
<v Speaker 2>Special forces stuff. He build a lot of their facil.

786
00:41:09.920 --> 00:41:13.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Dad was tight with all those guys.

787
00:41:12.679 --> 00:41:14.400
<v Speaker 2>At one point. And I know that. Look, I want

788
00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:18.800
<v Speaker 2>to clarify that. To me, this stuff is I'm glad

789
00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:19.920
<v Speaker 2>that all that.

790
00:41:20.119 --> 00:41:23.719
<v Speaker 3>Me too, is I'm so happy that because we would

791
00:41:23.719 --> 00:41:25.679
<v Speaker 3>have not been on the path that the people that

792
00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:29.199
<v Speaker 3>we are today coming from that.

793
00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're better We're way better off. We're way better

794
00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:33.679
<v Speaker 2>off with nothing.

795
00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:39.480
<v Speaker 3>Then it's like the man the rich man, how does

796
00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:40.039
<v Speaker 3>that saying go.

797
00:41:40.599 --> 00:41:45.760
<v Speaker 2>It's it's it's that it's easier. Let me think about it.

798
00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:49.000
<v Speaker 2>It's easier to go through for a camel to pass

799
00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:51.039
<v Speaker 2>through the eye of the needle, a rich man to

800
00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:54.239
<v Speaker 2>get right. I was trying to connect the eye of

801
00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:56.159
<v Speaker 2>the needle and the camel. But that's right, thank you.

802
00:41:56.199 --> 00:41:59.320
<v Speaker 3>But you know that stuff means nothing to me. It

803
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:01.960
<v Speaker 3>taught to what we've had to go through. And this

804
00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:04.840
<v Speaker 3>goes back to the question of why do I think

805
00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:08.519
<v Speaker 3>it happened to me? You know, it taught us valuable

806
00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:10.400
<v Speaker 3>lessons that we wouldn't have learned if we were these

807
00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:11.519
<v Speaker 3>spoiled rich kids.

808
00:42:11.599 --> 00:42:15.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and everyone else around us is complaining about bull crap,

809
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:18.519
<v Speaker 2>and we're like, hello, I'm just trying to have a

810
00:42:18.599 --> 00:42:22.199
<v Speaker 2>nice merry Christmas in your presence. I'm just trying to

811
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:25.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm just happy to see you, Like, why are we

812
00:42:25.039 --> 00:42:28.039
<v Speaker 2>complaining about bull crap? You know, because of what we've

813
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:30.400
<v Speaker 2>been through, and that's you know, I say Christmas, I mean,

814
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:33.280
<v Speaker 2>in all scenarios. Yeah, I agree with you completely that

815
00:42:33.360 --> 00:42:36.559
<v Speaker 2>when you go through these extreme losses, we've been reviled

816
00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:39.159
<v Speaker 2>by the community. That's a little unique. Most people don't

817
00:42:39.199 --> 00:42:42.400
<v Speaker 2>experience by Most people do not know what it is

818
00:42:42.480 --> 00:42:44.920
<v Speaker 2>like to be criticized, you know, throughout the span of

819
00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:48.559
<v Speaker 2>your life by thousands and thousands. Yeah, you know, that's

820
00:42:48.719 --> 00:42:53.920
<v Speaker 2>that's that's pretty hard to get over sometimes. But you know,

821
00:42:54.079 --> 00:42:57.079
<v Speaker 2>my point is when you lose everything and you're at

822
00:42:57.119 --> 00:42:58.760
<v Speaker 2>that breaking point, it could be you know, a loved

823
00:42:58.800 --> 00:43:01.239
<v Speaker 2>when dying, It could be anything but some extremely traumatic

824
00:43:01.320 --> 00:43:03.000
<v Speaker 2>event that pushes you over the edge. I think that

825
00:43:03.079 --> 00:43:07.159
<v Speaker 2>it does show you the truth of life, which is,

826
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:11.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, most things don't matter. The only things that

827
00:43:11.119 --> 00:43:14.679
<v Speaker 2>do matter are being happy, family, family, your kids, Yeah,

828
00:43:14.679 --> 00:43:16.119
<v Speaker 2>love smiles.

829
00:43:16.079 --> 00:43:18.039
<v Speaker 3>Being helped, being joyful. Yeah.

830
00:43:18.119 --> 00:43:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, none of that extra shit matters.

831
00:43:20.079 --> 00:43:22.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't care the paintball gun, it really doesn't matter.

832
00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:25.159
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's okay, it's a harmless hobby.

833
00:43:25.440 --> 00:43:27.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's good for you. But at the end of

834
00:43:27.599 --> 00:43:30.480
<v Speaker 3>the day, all I'm saying is, you know, you don't

835
00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:32.239
<v Speaker 3>have to have these things to be happy. You don't

836
00:43:32.239 --> 00:43:34.719
<v Speaker 3>have to have these things to exist, you know, like

837
00:43:34.760 --> 00:43:39.360
<v Speaker 3>the guns, the toys, the airplanes or whatever. It's not necessary,

838
00:43:40.679 --> 00:43:45.519
<v Speaker 3>you know, we we're so used to doing without. I

839
00:43:45.559 --> 00:43:48.920
<v Speaker 3>don't have to have anything to be happy. But it

840
00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:55.400
<v Speaker 3>definitely helps, you know, it definitely helps, of course. Huh.

841
00:43:55.440 --> 00:43:57.840
<v Speaker 2>So I had asked, you know, basically, I just wanted

842
00:43:57.840 --> 00:43:59.519
<v Speaker 2>to get your take because these are things that I've

843
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:02.760
<v Speaker 2>had my own opinions about, but I've never exactly asked

844
00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:04.639
<v Speaker 2>you out loud, like why do you think they were

845
00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:06.440
<v Speaker 2>scary at first? Or you know, why do you think this?

846
00:44:06.519 --> 00:44:08.920
<v Speaker 2>Or why do you think that? And ironically, even though

847
00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:12.880
<v Speaker 2>this is an exact conversation, we've never explicitly had, you know,

848
00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:16.800
<v Speaker 2>our thoughts were identical, which is that's crazy. I had

849
00:44:17.079 --> 00:44:18.960
<v Speaker 2>the things you were telling me were exactly what I've

850
00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:20.960
<v Speaker 2>always thought were the reasons that things happened the way

851
00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:24.199
<v Speaker 2>they did. Really, yeah, but the reason I even wanted

852
00:44:24.239 --> 00:44:26.320
<v Speaker 2>to ask in the first place is because there's people online,

853
00:44:26.440 --> 00:44:28.400
<v Speaker 2>like you know, it's just like people in the family

854
00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:32.760
<v Speaker 2>or people in the community, or online even you know,

855
00:44:32.880 --> 00:44:35.519
<v Speaker 2>no name anonymous trolls. They'll say things like, oh, you're

856
00:44:35.559 --> 00:44:37.880
<v Speaker 2>saying that beings are angelic, Well, you know they traumatize

857
00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:40.679
<v Speaker 2>your brother. Well, listen to why he said they did it.

858
00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:42.880
<v Speaker 2>Why he feels in his heart that they did it.

859
00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:44.679
<v Speaker 2>Why I've always felt in my heart that they did it.

860
00:44:44.679 --> 00:44:46.320
<v Speaker 2>My dad always felt in his heart that they did

861
00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:49.559
<v Speaker 2>it because it was necessary, unfortunately for you.

862
00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:53.320
<v Speaker 3>How come in the Bible, anytime they'd see an a

863
00:44:53.559 --> 00:44:55.840
<v Speaker 3>or not every time, but there were times that they'd

864
00:44:55.840 --> 00:44:58.280
<v Speaker 3>see an angel and it was scary. Right. How Come

865
00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:01.440
<v Speaker 3>in the Bible angels were scary, be not afraid. How

866
00:45:01.480 --> 00:45:04.800
<v Speaker 3>Come they had fiery eyes? How Come they rode in

867
00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:11.320
<v Speaker 3>chariots of fire? Fiery ball, right, a fiery horse and carriage.

868
00:45:11.480 --> 00:45:13.480
<v Speaker 3>That's how they knew. To explain it, they called it

869
00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:16.760
<v Speaker 3>a chariot, which is a horse and buggy pretty much

870
00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:22.199
<v Speaker 3>a fire. That's what the angels rode in, a chariot

871
00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:28.239
<v Speaker 3>of fire. These demonic crafts that I'm seeing looked like

872
00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:32.079
<v Speaker 3>chariots of fire. They look like a little fire ball

873
00:45:32.159 --> 00:45:35.960
<v Speaker 3>of light flying around. So I can imagine back when

874
00:45:35.960 --> 00:45:38.000
<v Speaker 3>they you know, they didn't speak the same.

875
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:38.840
<v Speaker 4>Way we do now.

876
00:45:39.559 --> 00:45:42.800
<v Speaker 3>They would have called that thing a chariot of fire.

877
00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or a wheel within a wheel something like that, yeah,

878
00:45:46.199 --> 00:45:48.360
<v Speaker 2>or a pillar of cloud by day yep.

879
00:45:48.480 --> 00:45:52.840
<v Speaker 3>So we know all those things, but yet the church

880
00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:56.199
<v Speaker 3>is telling us another thing. Who do we believe? Do

881
00:45:56.280 --> 00:45:59.599
<v Speaker 3>I believe my own eyes and my heart and my mind?

882
00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:02.800
<v Speaker 3>Or do I believe what the church is telling me?

883
00:46:03.280 --> 00:46:06.119
<v Speaker 3>And then I remember that you should only believe. How's

884
00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:12.599
<v Speaker 3>that saying? Go, h half that you see and nothing

885
00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:15.440
<v Speaker 3>that you hear. And now how it goes something like that?

886
00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:19.679
<v Speaker 3>I don't know that phrase. Yeah, you should believe nothing

887
00:46:21.760 --> 00:46:24.400
<v Speaker 3>that you hear and half that you see.

888
00:46:24.920 --> 00:46:25.719
<v Speaker 4>That's the quote.

889
00:46:26.119 --> 00:46:29.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know it. Yeah, interesting, pretty much.

890
00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:32.440
<v Speaker 3>It means you don't believe everything everybody tells you, and

891
00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:35.079
<v Speaker 3>you don't believe in everything you see everything either, right,

892
00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:37.400
<v Speaker 3>just because you see something, I mean, it's always exactly

893
00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:38.320
<v Speaker 3>as it seems.

894
00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:40.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it could be you could have a different angle.

895
00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:42.639
<v Speaker 2>I understand what you're saying now. I didn't get it

896
00:46:42.679 --> 00:46:45.559
<v Speaker 2>at first church. The preacher man, believe none of what

897
00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:48.159
<v Speaker 2>you hear in half of what you see? Pretty much? Yes,

898
00:46:48.239 --> 00:46:49.440
<v Speaker 2>almost exactly what he said.

899
00:46:49.519 --> 00:46:54.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, believe nothing that you hear and half of

900
00:46:54.280 --> 00:46:58.280
<v Speaker 3>what you see. Well, I'm hearing the preacher man say

901
00:46:58.280 --> 00:47:02.920
<v Speaker 3>that this is demonic. But I'm seeing this. I should

902
00:47:02.960 --> 00:47:05.079
<v Speaker 3>believe half of what I see and nothing that I

903
00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:07.440
<v Speaker 3>hear from him is the way I'm taking it. So

904
00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:10.239
<v Speaker 3>maybe there's a little truth to what I'm seeing. But

905
00:47:10.519 --> 00:47:14.480
<v Speaker 3>Batman don't know shit, right. You know, that's a good

906
00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:16.360
<v Speaker 3>thing I think about these things.

907
00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:17.480
<v Speaker 2>Formula worked out there.

908
00:47:17.960 --> 00:47:20.159
<v Speaker 3>I've had twenty years to think about this stuff. Yeah,

909
00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:21.880
<v Speaker 3>it's a lot going on up here.

910
00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:25.639
<v Speaker 2>I think it'll be nineteen years and.

911
00:47:25.639 --> 00:47:27.480
<v Speaker 3>Just a peace, love and judge thy neighbor.

912
00:47:29.480 --> 00:47:32.320
<v Speaker 2>Some Dad likes to say about church. No, and you

913
00:47:32.360 --> 00:47:36.239
<v Speaker 2>know it's it's the crazy thing because like Dad named

914
00:47:36.239 --> 00:47:39.599
<v Speaker 2>his book UFO God. Why do people anybody ever thought

915
00:47:39.599 --> 00:47:42.239
<v Speaker 2>about why did he do that? Why do you say

916
00:47:42.239 --> 00:47:42.639
<v Speaker 2>that name?

917
00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:44.599
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Why don't you tell us?

918
00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:51.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Probably because he's very boldly telling you, Hey,

919
00:47:51.559 --> 00:47:53.920
<v Speaker 2>this has to do with God. Yeah, of course this

920
00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:55.039
<v Speaker 2>has to do with God.

921
00:47:55.199 --> 00:47:55.960
<v Speaker 4>View right here.

922
00:47:56.159 --> 00:47:58.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And obviously the viewer knows. But then there's people

923
00:47:59.000 --> 00:48:04.960
<v Speaker 2>out there who, honestly, probably the biggest criticism that people

924
00:48:04.960 --> 00:48:07.639
<v Speaker 2>have is they're like, this is evil, this is demonic. Yeah,

925
00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:12.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, get that really, because we're praying out there

926
00:48:12.599 --> 00:48:15.079
<v Speaker 2>and you know, there's things appearing and guess what if

927
00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:18.320
<v Speaker 2>you did it would too. Everybody does it. We've done

928
00:48:18.360 --> 00:48:20.199
<v Speaker 2>it in a crowd of a thousand people. Are you

929
00:48:20.239 --> 00:48:21.199
<v Speaker 2>called up? Everybody in there?

930
00:48:21.639 --> 00:48:25.599
<v Speaker 3>Cadd Christians? Lots of them, lots of them. Maybe not

931
00:48:25.639 --> 00:48:28.440
<v Speaker 3>the ones that go to the Pentecostal Holiness Church, but

932
00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:32.320
<v Speaker 3>we get lots of dedicated Christians that are no different

933
00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:35.480
<v Speaker 3>than any other Christian that pray right there with us

934
00:48:35.559 --> 00:48:38.719
<v Speaker 3>and see them. It's happened Catholics too.

935
00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:41.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well way more than that. You know, people that

936
00:48:41.679 --> 00:48:44.639
<v Speaker 2>are Hindu, people that are Muslim, people that are Buddhist.

937
00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:46.880
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't it's not just it's not just Christian, you know,

938
00:48:47.239 --> 00:48:49.480
<v Speaker 2>And like my view has changed. And I think that

939
00:48:50.639 --> 00:48:53.400
<v Speaker 2>I think that people get I don't. I don't think

940
00:48:54.159 --> 00:48:57.840
<v Speaker 2>Jesus was like, you know, hey, it's it's let me

941
00:48:57.840 --> 00:48:59.679
<v Speaker 2>figure out how to say this, because I think this

942
00:48:59.800 --> 00:49:05.280
<v Speaker 2>is to get right. I don't think like the Church,

943
00:49:05.360 --> 00:49:07.639
<v Speaker 2>for example, Okay, let me say it this way. When

944
00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:09.639
<v Speaker 2>we were growing up, we were taught, you know, you

945
00:49:09.679 --> 00:49:13.039
<v Speaker 2>can't look at anything outside of the Bible. You can't

946
00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:16.679
<v Speaker 2>look into Egypt, you can't look into you know, Buddhism

947
00:49:16.840 --> 00:49:19.199
<v Speaker 2>or things like that. That's like very like, no, no, no, no,

948
00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:22.800
<v Speaker 2>it's only in this box. I don't think that's the

949
00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:25.599
<v Speaker 2>way God is. I think that there is no box.

950
00:49:26.000 --> 00:49:28.719
<v Speaker 2>I think that God doesn't just belong to one system,

951
00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:32.519
<v Speaker 2>and all of these different systems are explaining the one thing.

952
00:49:33.039 --> 00:49:35.920
<v Speaker 2>And if you're a really smart individual, you'll look at

953
00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:37.880
<v Speaker 2>all of these different pieces of the puzzle and you'll

954
00:49:37.880 --> 00:49:41.760
<v Speaker 2>find the commonalities. Right, You'll find the patterns of how

955
00:49:41.800 --> 00:49:45.280
<v Speaker 2>things are similar. And you'll look at all the pieces

956
00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:47.559
<v Speaker 2>on the board, not just the little box.

957
00:49:47.760 --> 00:49:50.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you'll start finding more pieces of that twenty thousand

958
00:49:50.599 --> 00:49:51.239
<v Speaker 3>piece puzzle.

959
00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Now, maybe there is some truth in Hinduism. Maybe there

960
00:49:54.880 --> 00:49:57.639
<v Speaker 2>is some truth in them, from all of them. Yeah,

961
00:49:57.679 --> 00:49:59.679
<v Speaker 2>And maybe that's kind of the point of God in

962
00:49:59.679 --> 00:50:01.599
<v Speaker 2>the first place. Is it's just we're a bunch of

963
00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:05.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, ignorant little human beings for the last five

964
00:50:05.239 --> 00:50:07.679
<v Speaker 2>thousand years trying to explain what we think it is.

965
00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:11.320
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't belong on those pages. It is its own thing.

966
00:50:11.360 --> 00:50:16.559
<v Speaker 2>It's immortal, it's timeless, it's boundless, it's beyond everything. It's everything,

967
00:50:16.599 --> 00:50:19.239
<v Speaker 2>it's beyond our comprehension, and all of these different texts

968
00:50:19.239 --> 00:50:22.920
<v Speaker 2>are just trying to explain the one thing. But I

969
00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:29.719
<v Speaker 2>think there is a lot of accuracy, particularly in written

970
00:50:29.840 --> 00:50:35.440
<v Speaker 2>works that pertain to Jesus. That doesn't even necessarily I

971
00:50:35.480 --> 00:50:39.880
<v Speaker 2>don't my personal opinion, a lot of the New Testament

972
00:50:40.159 --> 00:50:46.119
<v Speaker 2>and my view and what I've seen could be fraudulent.

973
00:50:47.480 --> 00:50:51.199
<v Speaker 2>That's a whole other story. There's a scholarly debate where

974
00:50:51.480 --> 00:50:55.000
<v Speaker 2>there's like thirteen letters from the Apostle Paul, and it's

975
00:50:55.039 --> 00:50:58.159
<v Speaker 2>believed that he actually only wrote like six of them,

976
00:50:58.320 --> 00:51:00.880
<v Speaker 2>and that the other seven are people over the next

977
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:03.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, several decades or one hundred years that just

978
00:51:03.559 --> 00:51:05.840
<v Speaker 2>used his name and published the works. So that's what

979
00:51:05.840 --> 00:51:08.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to say, Like people don't really know the

980
00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:11.280
<v Speaker 2>full context of the Bible, you know what I mean,

981
00:51:11.360 --> 00:51:13.920
<v Speaker 2>And any text really most.

982
00:51:13.800 --> 00:51:15.840
<v Speaker 3>Texts different interpretations.

983
00:51:16.079 --> 00:51:19.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like you know, people want to talk about, you know,

984
00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:21.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm a Christian or I'm this or I'm of that.

985
00:51:21.840 --> 00:51:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Great well step one, if you know, instead of blindly

986
00:51:26.000 --> 00:51:28.719
<v Speaker 2>believing the thing, once you go look into like the

987
00:51:28.920 --> 00:51:34.079
<v Speaker 2>context of this system's existence, start to understand how it formed,

988
00:51:34.119 --> 00:51:36.719
<v Speaker 2>the movement that was created at the time it began,

989
00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:39.639
<v Speaker 2>the historical impact, how it spread to other nations how

990
00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:44.719
<v Speaker 2>it relates to other cultures. And I'm just as of late, Yeah,

991
00:51:45.519 --> 00:51:48.880
<v Speaker 2>we're very similar for years. Yeah, and I've been talking

992
00:51:48.880 --> 00:51:51.880
<v Speaker 2>to your you know, on and on and on over

993
00:51:51.920 --> 00:51:53.480
<v Speaker 2>the last week and a half. I've been blowing your

994
00:51:53.480 --> 00:51:55.800
<v Speaker 2>head up about this. But I'm talking about this gnostic thing,

995
00:51:55.920 --> 00:52:00.440
<v Speaker 2>the non commodity. Yeah, because I'm really beginning to believe

996
00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:08.760
<v Speaker 2>that the nag Hamadi Library is the secret missing piece

997
00:52:09.639 --> 00:52:13.039
<v Speaker 2>to the Bible. That it is, It's the part of

998
00:52:13.079 --> 00:52:17.239
<v Speaker 2>the puzzle. That's why, all these years later there's so

999
00:52:17.519 --> 00:52:22.320
<v Speaker 2>much chaos and fear and distortion over Christianity. And then

1000
00:52:22.360 --> 00:52:27.079
<v Speaker 2>you have the idiots of the world, the idiots who

1001
00:52:27.239 --> 00:52:29.880
<v Speaker 2>hate and mock Jesus because of the actions of people

1002
00:52:29.920 --> 00:52:35.039
<v Speaker 2>that don't understand their religion. Ignorant just I was trying

1003
00:52:35.039 --> 00:52:39.880
<v Speaker 2>to say ignoramus and moron and like two other words

1004
00:52:39.880 --> 00:52:42.920
<v Speaker 2>at the same time, but like just ignorant, stupid people

1005
00:52:43.400 --> 00:52:45.800
<v Speaker 2>who want a claim to be spiritual, but then they

1006
00:52:45.840 --> 00:52:51.719
<v Speaker 2>mock Christ, they mock a real genuine fountain of spiritual wisdom.

1007
00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:53.760
<v Speaker 2>But then they'll be like, you know, Vuddh's really cool,

1008
00:52:54.039 --> 00:52:55.840
<v Speaker 2>this is really cool. That's really cold. But then they

1009
00:52:55.920 --> 00:52:59.679
<v Speaker 2>like mock Christ to me, it's like, uh, you're a

1010
00:52:59.719 --> 00:53:03.639
<v Speaker 2>fake spiritual person. You can't. You have to look at

1011
00:53:03.679 --> 00:53:08.480
<v Speaker 2>all sources of wisdom. I think, you know. Anyway, I'm

1012
00:53:08.480 --> 00:53:11.639
<v Speaker 2>gonna get off my soapbox about that. But you know,

1013
00:53:11.760 --> 00:53:15.880
<v Speaker 2>people don't quite understand, like the significance. There's a reason

1014
00:53:15.920 --> 00:53:19.400
<v Speaker 2>that there's Jesus on the cover of UFO of God

1015
00:53:20.119 --> 00:53:24.880
<v Speaker 2>an orb, Yeah, an orb. Well interesting you start looking

1016
00:53:24.920 --> 00:53:27.679
<v Speaker 2>into the Gnostic thing that it was only discovered in

1017
00:53:27.800 --> 00:53:31.719
<v Speaker 2>the texts, only discovered in nineteen forty seven. And they

1018
00:53:31.760 --> 00:53:35.400
<v Speaker 2>talk about a lady they actually talk about a lady

1019
00:53:35.440 --> 00:53:40.360
<v Speaker 2>Sophia yep. And they have a completely different story about reality,

1020
00:53:40.400 --> 00:53:44.079
<v Speaker 2>and you know, a slightly different account of Jesus. And

1021
00:53:44.360 --> 00:53:46.960
<v Speaker 2>I think it's just very interesting, That's all I'm saying.

1022
00:53:47.480 --> 00:53:51.039
<v Speaker 2>I have a hard time saying I'm Christian because from

1023
00:53:51.079 --> 00:53:54.639
<v Speaker 2>a scholarly perspective, that implies certain things that means that

1024
00:53:54.719 --> 00:53:57.679
<v Speaker 2>you believe, you know, like you have to say the

1025
00:53:57.760 --> 00:54:00.719
<v Speaker 2>nice and creed for example, if you're a certain sect

1026
00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:02.679
<v Speaker 2>or it means you have to say this, or you

1027
00:54:02.719 --> 00:54:04.159
<v Speaker 2>have to do this, or you have to conform to

1028
00:54:04.199 --> 00:54:07.360
<v Speaker 2>this doctrine. I don't I don't conform to doctrines. I

1029
00:54:07.480 --> 00:54:11.320
<v Speaker 2>just follow Jesus, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, that's

1030
00:54:11.360 --> 00:54:11.880
<v Speaker 2>all I'm saying.

1031
00:54:11.960 --> 00:54:13.440
<v Speaker 3>That's that's kind of how.

1032
00:54:13.320 --> 00:54:14.400
<v Speaker 4>I am as well in a way.

1033
00:54:14.559 --> 00:54:16.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just I don't.

1034
00:54:16.519 --> 00:54:19.400
<v Speaker 3>I don't really conform to everything the church tells me.

1035
00:54:19.480 --> 00:54:23.039
<v Speaker 3>I know that it doesn't matter. All that matters is

1036
00:54:23.079 --> 00:54:26.159
<v Speaker 3>that you because I like to think this. I don't

1037
00:54:26.159 --> 00:54:29.480
<v Speaker 3>know that it's true, but I think of consciousness. It's

1038
00:54:29.599 --> 00:54:33.400
<v Speaker 3>like this energy or like maybe in like a library

1039
00:54:33.440 --> 00:54:35.760
<v Speaker 3>that's floating around in the sky above us, right, and

1040
00:54:35.800 --> 00:54:41.840
<v Speaker 3>we're all linked together through this little consciousness thing, right,

1041
00:54:42.639 --> 00:54:46.079
<v Speaker 3>and then how like a cloud, like the cloud like WiFi, Yeah,

1042
00:54:46.360 --> 00:54:50.679
<v Speaker 3>like the Wi Fi signal. Our brain sends this signal

1043
00:54:50.719 --> 00:54:53.840
<v Speaker 3>and receives the signal, you know, and there's all this

1044
00:54:53.960 --> 00:54:57.159
<v Speaker 3>information floating around up there, and we're all like tied

1045
00:54:57.199 --> 00:55:01.719
<v Speaker 3>together through this. We're all one through God, the body

1046
00:55:01.719 --> 00:55:05.079
<v Speaker 3>of you know, this is like God up here, right,

1047
00:55:05.119 --> 00:55:09.079
<v Speaker 3>and he links to the trees and the animals and

1048
00:55:09.119 --> 00:55:12.000
<v Speaker 3>me and you and all through this one you know,

1049
00:55:12.599 --> 00:55:14.840
<v Speaker 3>like way of communicating. I guess you could say, I

1050
00:55:14.840 --> 00:55:17.880
<v Speaker 3>don't know how to explain it. That's how psychically, spiritually exactly.

1051
00:55:17.920 --> 00:55:21.559
<v Speaker 3>That is what I'm getting invisibly right, And there's a connection,

1052
00:55:21.639 --> 00:55:27.119
<v Speaker 3>there's any works and and uh, prayer to the psychic stuff. Prayer, yeah,

1053
00:55:27.559 --> 00:55:30.599
<v Speaker 3>angels and all they like. They can tap into that stuff.

1054
00:55:30.639 --> 00:55:31.199
<v Speaker 4>They hear it.

1055
00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:35.920
<v Speaker 3>They know what we're thinking, because you know it's up there,

1056
00:55:36.039 --> 00:55:38.719
<v Speaker 3>we think it and our brains sending it out on

1057
00:55:38.760 --> 00:55:39.320
<v Speaker 3>some level.

1058
00:55:39.519 --> 00:55:40.760
<v Speaker 2>Interesting, some people can.

1059
00:55:40.639 --> 00:55:43.239
<v Speaker 3>Tap into it. They are able to open up like

1060
00:55:43.360 --> 00:55:46.840
<v Speaker 3>that little portal in their brain that receives that Wi

1061
00:55:46.840 --> 00:55:49.280
<v Speaker 3>Fi signal and you're able to suck it up and

1062
00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:52.960
<v Speaker 3>now you're psychic or you know, you had a precognitive thought.

1063
00:55:53.760 --> 00:55:55.960
<v Speaker 3>But where I was going with this though, is sometimes

1064
00:55:55.960 --> 00:55:58.559
<v Speaker 3>I like to think that God is in control of

1065
00:55:58.599 --> 00:56:02.880
<v Speaker 3>that and and we are all tied together through that.

1066
00:56:02.880 --> 00:56:06.760
<v Speaker 3>That's why you know, you shouldn't murder somebody. I don't know,

1067
00:56:06.840 --> 00:56:11.159
<v Speaker 3>it's just like my own speculation, but you shouldn't hurt somebody,

1068
00:56:11.239 --> 00:56:15.119
<v Speaker 3>harm them, talk bad to them, anything, because we're all

1069
00:56:15.159 --> 00:56:19.239
<v Speaker 3>together through this one thing. So if I'm like hurting you,

1070
00:56:19.519 --> 00:56:23.159
<v Speaker 3>I could be hurting myself at the same time or God,

1071
00:56:23.400 --> 00:56:25.679
<v Speaker 3>you know. So that's why I like to think you

1072
00:56:25.719 --> 00:56:30.519
<v Speaker 3>shouldn't harm people or be ugly to them, treat them wrong, whatever,

1073
00:56:30.559 --> 00:56:31.800
<v Speaker 3>because you're harming.

1074
00:56:31.519 --> 00:56:32.840
<v Speaker 4>God or yourself.

1075
00:56:34.079 --> 00:56:36.760
<v Speaker 3>That's probably all a load of baloney, but it's not

1076
00:56:36.880 --> 00:56:37.199
<v Speaker 3>at all.

1077
00:56:37.880 --> 00:56:42.079
<v Speaker 2>It's exactly and many others.

1078
00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:46.840
<v Speaker 3>And where I was going with that, Where was I

1079
00:56:46.880 --> 00:56:51.039
<v Speaker 3>going with that? I had the very special little loop.

1080
00:56:51.559 --> 00:56:52.840
<v Speaker 3>I was gonna tie it all together.

1081
00:56:53.119 --> 00:56:54.280
<v Speaker 2>It'll come back from the cloud.

1082
00:56:54.760 --> 00:57:00.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but uh oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it

1083
00:57:00.360 --> 00:57:02.239
<v Speaker 3>kind of reminds me of Mother Nature in a way.

1084
00:57:02.760 --> 00:57:07.119
<v Speaker 3>You know, how everything is tied together through Mother Nature, God, right,

1085
00:57:07.199 --> 00:57:11.559
<v Speaker 3>the plants and all. But that's why, that's how you

1086
00:57:11.559 --> 00:57:13.559
<v Speaker 3>make it to heaven. That's how you you know, that's

1087
00:57:13.880 --> 00:57:16.440
<v Speaker 3>part of how you make it to heaven. You recognize

1088
00:57:16.440 --> 00:57:19.360
<v Speaker 3>things like that, you don't treat people wrong, you do good,

1089
00:57:19.440 --> 00:57:22.199
<v Speaker 3>You have good in your heart, good intentions. You know,

1090
00:57:22.239 --> 00:57:23.960
<v Speaker 3>if you have good intentions, then you're probably not.

1091
00:57:23.920 --> 00:57:26.159
<v Speaker 4>Gonna hurt anybody. It's all about intention.

1092
00:57:27.079 --> 00:57:29.960
<v Speaker 3>And you know, I know, as long as you know

1093
00:57:30.000 --> 00:57:32.679
<v Speaker 3>those things and you know to be good to other

1094
00:57:32.719 --> 00:57:35.119
<v Speaker 3>people and you know how to act, you know, and

1095
00:57:35.159 --> 00:57:38.800
<v Speaker 3>you love God, you love the earth, you love the animals,

1096
00:57:38.880 --> 00:57:41.599
<v Speaker 3>the people. You know, you're you're one step closer to

1097
00:57:41.639 --> 00:57:44.719
<v Speaker 3>making it to heaven. You don't have to exactly follow

1098
00:57:44.840 --> 00:57:48.280
<v Speaker 3>the doctrines that the Pentecostal Church tells you. I don't

1099
00:57:48.320 --> 00:57:52.760
<v Speaker 3>have to cut to a certain length and avoid wearing

1100
00:57:52.960 --> 00:57:55.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, nose piercings and all to make it to heaven.

1101
00:57:55.519 --> 00:57:59.360
<v Speaker 2>Like they would say, you know, agreed, I would take

1102
00:57:59.400 --> 00:58:01.880
<v Speaker 2>a step further. I would say that heaven is not

1103
00:58:01.960 --> 00:58:03.760
<v Speaker 2>a place that you go to when you die, but

1104
00:58:03.800 --> 00:58:06.039
<v Speaker 2>it's a constant state of mind that you should seek

1105
00:58:06.079 --> 00:58:09.239
<v Speaker 2>to achieve in life. And then if you achieve this

1106
00:58:09.320 --> 00:58:13.320
<v Speaker 2>in life, then you'll be immortal beyond death. See, people

1107
00:58:13.320 --> 00:58:17.920
<v Speaker 2>got it backwards from how we came our community and

1108
00:58:18.280 --> 00:58:19.880
<v Speaker 2>the majority of Christians in the world. It's like, you

1109
00:58:19.920 --> 00:58:22.039
<v Speaker 2>gotta be saved. What if you were to die, like

1110
00:58:22.159 --> 00:58:24.639
<v Speaker 2>right now or any time, you gotta be saved on

1111
00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:28.280
<v Speaker 2>that deathbed. You better confess Christ. You gotta believe. There's

1112
00:58:28.360 --> 00:58:31.280
<v Speaker 2>this emphasis of like you have to believe this. You

1113
00:58:31.400 --> 00:58:33.519
<v Speaker 2>have to say X, Y Z. You have to say

1114
00:58:33.599 --> 00:58:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Romans ten to nine, the center of prayer. If you're Anglican,

1115
00:58:36.079 --> 00:58:38.239
<v Speaker 2>you gotta say the nice and Creed. You gotta say this.

1116
00:58:38.280 --> 00:58:39.880
<v Speaker 2>You gotta say you're hell Mary's, you gotta say the

1117
00:58:39.920 --> 00:58:42.559
<v Speaker 2>Lord's prayers. Seven times a day. You gotta say exactly

1118
00:58:42.679 --> 00:58:45.039
<v Speaker 2>this or you are going to burn in hell for

1119
00:58:45.079 --> 00:58:49.239
<v Speaker 2>all eternity. I don't think that's even close to the truth.

1120
00:58:49.280 --> 00:58:51.280
<v Speaker 2>I think that's so far from the truth. I think

1121
00:58:51.320 --> 00:58:55.320
<v Speaker 2>the real truth is the teachings of Jesus were a secret.

1122
00:58:55.559 --> 00:58:59.239
<v Speaker 2>It was a new answer to the problem that humanity

1123
00:58:59.280 --> 00:59:01.840
<v Speaker 2>at the time was facing. They had never heard this

1124
00:59:01.960 --> 00:59:05.920
<v Speaker 2>knowledge before other than in secret and mystery schools in

1125
00:59:05.920 --> 00:59:08.719
<v Speaker 2>Egypt and Greece and India and Tibet and so on

1126
00:59:08.760 --> 00:59:10.800
<v Speaker 2>and so forth. That he brought this knowledge to the

1127
00:59:10.840 --> 00:59:13.400
<v Speaker 2>world for the first time. That you have to reach enlightenment,

1128
00:59:13.960 --> 00:59:17.519
<v Speaker 2>you have to seek a state of being. You have

1129
00:59:17.559 --> 00:59:20.000
<v Speaker 2>to be christ Like. You have to be this way,

1130
00:59:20.320 --> 00:59:23.800
<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter what you believe. It's not about being saved

1131
00:59:23.880 --> 00:59:28.440
<v Speaker 2>by some outside force. It's about how you be, not

1132
00:59:28.519 --> 00:59:32.679
<v Speaker 2>about how you believe. Right, being christ Like Heaven is

1133
00:59:32.719 --> 00:59:36.159
<v Speaker 2>a state of mind. Because in Tibetan Buddhism, for example,

1134
00:59:36.199 --> 00:59:38.480
<v Speaker 2>they have a concept called the light body or job Chin.

1135
00:59:39.000 --> 00:59:41.480
<v Speaker 2>It's believed that Jesus. I mean, I'm just saying I've

1136
00:59:41.480 --> 00:59:43.679
<v Speaker 2>had these conversations with people who are pretty credible about

1137
00:59:43.679 --> 00:59:46.800
<v Speaker 2>certain things like this, very smart individuals who study this

1138
00:59:46.880 --> 00:59:49.719
<v Speaker 2>way more than me or most people alive on the planet.

1139
00:59:50.960 --> 00:59:53.199
<v Speaker 2>And there is a belief that, you know, maybe the

1140
00:59:53.199 --> 00:59:55.400
<v Speaker 2>shroud of Turin even is what it is because Jesus

1141
00:59:55.480 --> 00:59:57.599
<v Speaker 2>achieved light body and poof disappear in a flash of

1142
00:59:57.639 --> 01:00:01.199
<v Speaker 2>light when he was ready to You read the stories

1143
01:00:01.199 --> 01:00:03.800
<v Speaker 2>about the transfiguration on the mountain. I've heard stories of

1144
01:00:03.880 --> 01:00:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Tibetan monks levitating, you know, poof rainbow body, they disappear

1145
01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:10.360
<v Speaker 2>in a flash of light. I think there's way more

1146
01:00:10.760 --> 01:00:12.800
<v Speaker 2>possible than we really.

1147
01:00:13.039 --> 01:00:16.320
<v Speaker 3>Definitely no, and we've seen that firsthand at the freaking

1148
01:00:16.440 --> 01:00:17.079
<v Speaker 3>cy Games.

1149
01:00:17.840 --> 01:00:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, not the light body, but many other things. Very

1150
01:00:21.039 --> 01:00:22.480
<v Speaker 2>cool thing we've seen that.

1151
01:00:22.599 --> 01:00:26.480
<v Speaker 3>We are more than what they teach us. What your

1152
01:00:26.599 --> 01:00:30.039
<v Speaker 3>church teaches you, and what the government in our school

1153
01:00:30.119 --> 01:00:35.800
<v Speaker 3>teaches you is taught to you purposefully to keep you controlled.

1154
01:00:36.400 --> 01:00:39.079
<v Speaker 3>I think I could be wrong about that, but what

1155
01:00:39.199 --> 01:00:42.280
<v Speaker 3>it seems because there's they're purposefully leaving stuff out.

1156
01:00:42.280 --> 01:00:44.679
<v Speaker 2>And maybe they don't even know it themselves, but it

1157
01:00:44.760 --> 01:00:45.599
<v Speaker 2>is definitely happening.

1158
01:00:46.519 --> 01:00:50.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, our government knows about it. That's why there's the

1159
01:00:50.159 --> 01:00:53.920
<v Speaker 3>Monroe Institute. They've been studying it for a long time, right,

1160
01:00:54.519 --> 01:00:57.199
<v Speaker 3>pretty much. And I know that they've been working with

1161
01:00:57.199 --> 01:00:58.719
<v Speaker 3>what they've worked with them before.

1162
01:00:58.519 --> 01:00:58.880
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure.

1163
01:00:58.880 --> 01:01:02.559
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, they've done like investigations into their program and

1164
01:01:02.599 --> 01:01:07.760
<v Speaker 2>worked with developing you know, siabilities for remobilers us. Yeah,

1165
01:01:07.800 --> 01:01:08.199
<v Speaker 2>of course.

1166
01:01:08.280 --> 01:01:10.039
<v Speaker 3>You know they made the movie The Men Who's there

1167
01:01:10.079 --> 01:01:12.519
<v Speaker 3>at Goats when we were kids, Like, they were studying

1168
01:01:12.519 --> 01:01:16.480
<v Speaker 3>this stuff for long before us. Yeah, you know for

1169
01:01:16.559 --> 01:01:20.079
<v Speaker 3>sure the government knows all about it. They were not

1170
01:01:20.199 --> 01:01:22.360
<v Speaker 3>taught about it for what reason? Why Why are we

1171
01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:24.760
<v Speaker 3>not taught this stuff? Why are we not taught that

1172
01:01:24.840 --> 01:01:29.519
<v Speaker 3>you can, you know, precognitively know when your freaking wife

1173
01:01:29.599 --> 01:01:32.760
<v Speaker 3>is going to pull up in the driveway. It can happen.

1174
01:01:33.400 --> 01:01:33.719
<v Speaker 4>You know.

1175
01:01:33.960 --> 01:01:37.440
<v Speaker 3>Why aren't we taught that if you train your body enough,

1176
01:01:37.480 --> 01:01:41.039
<v Speaker 3>you can bend to a spoon with your mind. Well,

1177
01:01:41.639 --> 01:01:43.880
<v Speaker 3>if they taught everybody that, then it would be really

1178
01:01:43.880 --> 01:01:45.559
<v Speaker 3>easy to break out of prison, wouldn't it.

1179
01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:47.079
<v Speaker 2>Or are a number of other things.

1180
01:01:47.199 --> 01:01:50.920
<v Speaker 3>No, that's just example, but it would make sense to

1181
01:01:51.039 --> 01:01:54.239
<v Speaker 3>control us. They would want you to know things that

1182
01:01:54.320 --> 01:01:57.599
<v Speaker 3>make you powerful, right, you know, they make you almost superhuman.

1183
01:01:57.679 --> 01:01:59.679
<v Speaker 3>They don't want you to know that stuff. You have

1184
01:01:59.760 --> 01:02:02.360
<v Speaker 3>to seek it. You have to get lucky and find

1185
01:02:02.400 --> 01:02:04.239
<v Speaker 3>it right, faster egg.

1186
01:02:04.159 --> 01:02:06.239
<v Speaker 2>You have to seek it. Yeah, that's why we have

1187
01:02:06.360 --> 01:02:09.960
<v Speaker 2>so many mythologies about like you know, the Holy Grail,

1188
01:02:11.679 --> 01:02:14.760
<v Speaker 2>the wishing stone, the Chintamani wishing stone from Buddhism. There's

1189
01:02:14.760 --> 01:02:20.199
<v Speaker 2>these mythologies, these legends about like finding this secret treasure.

1190
01:02:20.480 --> 01:02:23.760
<v Speaker 2>Those are all metaphors. It's about your soul coming here

1191
01:02:23.800 --> 01:02:27.639
<v Speaker 2>on the journey to discover this knowledge and become enlightened.

1192
01:02:28.400 --> 01:02:31.840
<v Speaker 2>That that's that quest for the Holy Grail exists inside

1193
01:02:31.880 --> 01:02:34.599
<v Speaker 2>all of us. It's the search for knowledge. We're all

1194
01:02:34.599 --> 01:02:38.079
<v Speaker 2>the fool on the journey, right, that the archetype of

1195
01:02:38.079 --> 01:02:39.920
<v Speaker 2>the soul. Right, we all come here as the fool.

1196
01:02:40.639 --> 01:02:44.679
<v Speaker 2>We're all on that path to seeking this knowledge.

1197
01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:45.199
<v Speaker 3>Right.

1198
01:02:45.519 --> 01:02:48.159
<v Speaker 2>That's what the Gnostics were all about. That's what the

1199
01:02:48.199 --> 01:02:52.280
<v Speaker 2>word gnostic means, or the word nosis, it means knowledge.

1200
01:02:52.880 --> 01:02:57.000
<v Speaker 2>It means to be like illuminated to you know, when

1201
01:02:57.000 --> 01:03:01.280
<v Speaker 2>you when you read the Gnostic interpretation of salvation is not, hey,

1202
01:03:01.440 --> 01:03:03.000
<v Speaker 2>you gotta pray to me, You got to say you're hell,

1203
01:03:03.039 --> 01:03:04.400
<v Speaker 2>Mary's you gotta do X y Z and you won't

1204
01:03:04.400 --> 01:03:06.719
<v Speaker 2>burn a hell forever. The Gnostics were like, whoahoa, whoa,

1205
01:03:06.800 --> 01:03:13.199
<v Speaker 2>Actually we're kind of in hill now figuratively speaking like yeah,

1206
01:03:13.199 --> 01:03:15.360
<v Speaker 2>like the matrix, they said the word illusion or the

1207
01:03:15.400 --> 01:03:18.159
<v Speaker 2>word like a nightmare. I think it was the Gospel

1208
01:03:18.159 --> 01:03:20.960
<v Speaker 2>of Truth or one of the knock Commodity scrolls. It

1209
01:03:21.000 --> 01:03:24.480
<v Speaker 2>says that basically, this is a nightmare that the flesh

1210
01:03:24.760 --> 01:03:29.320
<v Speaker 2>comes into a nightmare. You're you're, you're, you're actually seeking

1211
01:03:29.320 --> 01:03:30.119
<v Speaker 2>to get out of here.

1212
01:03:30.440 --> 01:03:34.119
<v Speaker 3>Whereas listening today, bro, maybe in another week or so I'll.

1213
01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:35.079
<v Speaker 4>Be able to talk this stuff.

1214
01:03:35.280 --> 01:03:38.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I heard you. I heard it up seriously. But see,

1215
01:03:38.159 --> 01:03:41.119
<v Speaker 2>the Christian doctrine or many doctrines are like, well, actually

1216
01:03:41.239 --> 01:03:43.320
<v Speaker 2>it's the opposite. You die and then you go what

1217
01:03:43.440 --> 01:03:45.400
<v Speaker 2>Gospel of Truth it's in there? Yeah, it talks about

1218
01:03:45.400 --> 01:03:48.360
<v Speaker 2>it being a nightmare. Right, you want to elaborate read it.

1219
01:03:49.400 --> 01:03:50.119
<v Speaker 2>I'd love to hear it.

1220
01:03:50.159 --> 01:03:52.280
<v Speaker 4>No, I don't have anything to elaborate. I'm just confirming

1221
01:03:52.280 --> 01:03:52.800
<v Speaker 4>you're correct.

1222
01:03:52.880 --> 01:03:54.719
<v Speaker 2>Okay yea. Alex starts shaking his head at me and

1223
01:03:54.800 --> 01:03:57.000
<v Speaker 2>thumbs up, which means I got something correct. So I

1224
01:03:57.039 --> 01:04:00.320
<v Speaker 2>had to get to the bottom of it. But yeah,

1225
01:04:00.480 --> 01:04:03.599
<v Speaker 2>the modern theology is that you come here, you've got

1226
01:04:03.599 --> 01:04:05.320
<v Speaker 2>the life, and then if you die, if you mess

1227
01:04:05.400 --> 01:04:07.679
<v Speaker 2>up a few times here you burn a hell forever.

1228
01:04:07.760 --> 01:04:10.000
<v Speaker 2>But really I couldn't be farther from the truth that

1229
01:04:10.039 --> 01:04:12.559
<v Speaker 2>this is the hard place. Yeah, we are in the

1230
01:04:12.599 --> 01:04:13.159
<v Speaker 2>hard place.

1231
01:04:13.159 --> 01:04:15.119
<v Speaker 3>That makes sense. Look at the world we live in.

1232
01:04:15.280 --> 01:04:18.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it could be way worse. That's really good news.

1233
01:04:18.719 --> 01:04:22.920
<v Speaker 2>It honestly could be worse. There are a lot of

1234
01:04:22.960 --> 01:04:25.320
<v Speaker 2>things here to enjoy if you have the state of

1235
01:04:25.440 --> 01:04:29.199
<v Speaker 2>mind to you know, be a loving, joyful person.

1236
01:04:29.199 --> 01:04:33.519
<v Speaker 3>It's insane to think that way, man, because it's true,

1237
01:04:34.400 --> 01:04:37.599
<v Speaker 3>because you could you could enjoy anything, or you could

1238
01:04:37.679 --> 01:04:41.480
<v Speaker 3>choose to be negative and spiteful and hateful and just

1239
01:04:41.880 --> 01:04:45.400
<v Speaker 3>be unhappy all the time. Some people choose to live

1240
01:04:45.480 --> 01:04:48.199
<v Speaker 3>like that. That's something Dad always said to me, is

1241
01:04:48.280 --> 01:04:52.079
<v Speaker 3>you can choose to be happy or you can choose

1242
01:04:52.159 --> 01:04:55.280
<v Speaker 3>to be upset. And he said that to me all

1243
01:04:55.719 --> 01:04:58.679
<v Speaker 3>the time when I would be upset about the UFO things,

1244
01:04:59.320 --> 01:05:02.159
<v Speaker 3>you know, last out and be mad, and he would

1245
01:05:02.159 --> 01:05:05.679
<v Speaker 3>tell me it's up to you to choose to be

1246
01:05:05.840 --> 01:05:07.920
<v Speaker 3>happy or choose.

1247
01:05:07.639 --> 01:05:08.320
<v Speaker 4>To be sad.

1248
01:05:09.480 --> 01:05:12.000
<v Speaker 3>And and at first I was like that, you know,

1249
01:05:12.079 --> 01:05:13.880
<v Speaker 3>that's the dumbest shit I've ever heard of my life.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I as a kid, I'm like, Yeah, Okay,

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01:05:18.199 --> 01:05:18.719
<v Speaker 2>thanks dad.

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01:05:18.840 --> 01:05:21.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's how I would think. You know, I don't

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01:05:21.679 --> 01:05:23.079
<v Speaker 3>want to hear that shit. I wouldn't talk to him

1254
01:05:23.159 --> 01:05:24.719
<v Speaker 3>like that, but I don't want to hear that shit.

1255
01:05:24.840 --> 01:05:28.920
<v Speaker 3>I'd leave, but I never forgot it. And he's right.

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<v Speaker 3>You literally can choose to be a spiteful, hateful, negative

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01:05:33.880 --> 01:05:38.880
<v Speaker 3>person that makes everybody unhappy and stresses every person out

1258
01:05:38.920 --> 01:05:42.000
<v Speaker 3>around them. You know, because when you're spiteful and negative,

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01:05:42.320 --> 01:05:45.000
<v Speaker 3>even though I know you're not being negative and spiteful

1260
01:05:45.000 --> 01:05:48.280
<v Speaker 3>towards me, it still gives me some level of stress. Right,

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01:05:48.480 --> 01:05:49.039
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure it.

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01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:49.679
<v Speaker 4>Does for you too.

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01:05:49.719 --> 01:05:52.639
<v Speaker 3>And someone's just like slamming shit even though they're not

1264
01:05:52.679 --> 01:05:55.960
<v Speaker 3>focused to you, he's slamming something and he's cussing and

1265
01:05:56.039 --> 01:06:00.760
<v Speaker 3>mad because that speck on the wall isn't right, You're

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01:06:00.800 --> 01:06:04.639
<v Speaker 3>filling some level of stress. These negative, nasty people are

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01:06:04.679 --> 01:06:07.280
<v Speaker 3>running around freaking. They just can't enjoy life, and other

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01:06:07.280 --> 01:06:08.119
<v Speaker 3>people around them.

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01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:10.199
<v Speaker 2>Can't enjoy life because they're around them.

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01:06:10.239 --> 01:06:13.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because they choose to be just negative and nasty.

1271
01:06:14.480 --> 01:06:17.840
<v Speaker 3>I really thought about that, and I choose to be happy,

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01:06:19.280 --> 01:06:22.039
<v Speaker 3>and I make that choice and I do and I am.

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01:06:22.480 --> 01:06:24.719
<v Speaker 3>It's so it's literally that simple it's a mind stay.

1274
01:06:24.800 --> 01:06:27.199
<v Speaker 3>It's you can be happy or sad.

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01:06:28.239 --> 01:06:31.880
<v Speaker 2>Quite literally, it's the Philosopher's Stone. Yeah, it's why it's

1276
01:06:31.880 --> 01:06:34.920
<v Speaker 2>our symbol. The symbol is actually a rendition of the

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01:06:34.920 --> 01:06:37.760
<v Speaker 2>philosophers Stone. That's very intentional on my part. Huh, I said,

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01:06:37.800 --> 01:06:39.280
<v Speaker 2>I wanted it to be a triangle with a circle

1279
01:06:39.320 --> 01:06:42.639
<v Speaker 2>in the middle, but the triangle will be a pyramid. Symbolically,

1280
01:06:42.679 --> 01:06:44.599
<v Speaker 2>it's a yellow triangle, but it's the pyramids. That's why

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01:06:44.639 --> 01:06:47.239
<v Speaker 2>it's yellow. And the UFO if you notice it's a

1282
01:06:47.280 --> 01:06:50.639
<v Speaker 2>perfect circle shape. Uh huh, that's intentional. It's the Philosopher's

1283
01:06:50.639 --> 01:06:53.519
<v Speaker 2>Stone because I've for all this time I've wanted the

1284
01:06:53.559 --> 01:06:56.599
<v Speaker 2>viewer to be exposed to this symbol, you know, the people,

1285
01:06:56.639 --> 01:06:59.159
<v Speaker 2>and it's spreading it into the world, you know, and

1286
01:06:59.159 --> 01:07:01.960
<v Speaker 2>it being associated with our brand and our story because

1287
01:07:01.960 --> 01:07:04.840
<v Speaker 2>I wanted that spiritual symbol really to be tying all

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01:07:04.840 --> 01:07:07.760
<v Speaker 2>of this together, which basically means that you have the

1289
01:07:07.800 --> 01:07:10.360
<v Speaker 2>power to create your own reality. You can create heaven

1290
01:07:10.440 --> 01:07:13.199
<v Speaker 2>or you can create hell. It's not a destination you

1291
01:07:13.239 --> 01:07:15.400
<v Speaker 2>go when you die. It is a constant state of

1292
01:07:15.440 --> 01:07:18.760
<v Speaker 2>being in life and death and forever and ever and ever.

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01:07:18.960 --> 01:07:21.960
<v Speaker 3>And I know people that find a way it don't

1294
01:07:22.000 --> 01:07:24.960
<v Speaker 3>matter what you say or what's presented to them, they

1295
01:07:25.039 --> 01:07:28.239
<v Speaker 3>find a way to be negative about that thing, you

1296
01:07:28.280 --> 01:07:29.960
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean? I know, you know people like

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01:07:30.039 --> 01:07:35.199
<v Speaker 3>that just they cannot find happiness in anything. They don't

1298
01:07:35.199 --> 01:07:37.280
<v Speaker 3>matter what you give them. They can't even do a

1299
01:07:37.320 --> 01:07:40.119
<v Speaker 3>hobby right because they're so negative and nasty about everything.

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01:07:41.239 --> 01:07:44.880
<v Speaker 3>There's nothing they enjoy. They're living in hell, right, you know,

1301
01:07:44.960 --> 01:07:45.960
<v Speaker 3>and don't even know it.

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01:07:46.320 --> 01:07:48.480
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of people alive today living in hell.

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01:07:49.199 --> 01:07:51.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm not living in hell. I know this is a

1304
01:07:51.239 --> 01:07:53.000
<v Speaker 2>hard place, but there's life.

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01:07:55.320 --> 01:07:59.519
<v Speaker 3>But you know, I can control that. I can still

1306
01:07:59.559 --> 01:08:04.119
<v Speaker 3>find happiness and other things. That's it's crazy to think

1307
01:08:04.159 --> 01:08:07.480
<v Speaker 3>about and see it the way that I see it.

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01:08:07.679 --> 01:08:09.440
<v Speaker 4>I wish everybody could see it that way.

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01:08:09.639 --> 01:08:13.800
<v Speaker 2>Me too, man, doing trying to convince people, you know, hey,

1310
01:08:13.840 --> 01:08:16.359
<v Speaker 2>there's more, the more of the world than you've been

1311
01:08:16.600 --> 01:08:17.720
<v Speaker 2>told and what you've seen.

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01:08:17.880 --> 01:08:21.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and what like the whole thought about negativity though,

1313
01:08:21.560 --> 01:08:25.119
<v Speaker 3>is it's crazy, man, There's so much more to just

1314
01:08:25.960 --> 01:08:30.720
<v Speaker 3>like that topic negativity. I really believe that you shouldn't

1315
01:08:30.760 --> 01:08:33.800
<v Speaker 3>be negative ever, you're I agree.

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01:08:34.920 --> 01:08:38.600
<v Speaker 2>I think it should all be external any negativity you

1317
01:08:38.640 --> 01:08:41.199
<v Speaker 2>experience should be external, should not come from you, yes,

1318
01:08:41.319 --> 01:08:44.800
<v Speaker 2>and should not come from within your bees. It's okay

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01:08:44.840 --> 01:08:47.119
<v Speaker 2>to experience stress and.

1320
01:08:47.079 --> 01:08:49.880
<v Speaker 3>You're not something I'm trying to even work on. And

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01:08:49.960 --> 01:08:53.159
<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty for the most part, I'm pretty positive most

1322
01:08:53.159 --> 01:08:56.439
<v Speaker 3>of the time. But I think that if everybody tried

1323
01:08:56.520 --> 01:09:00.880
<v Speaker 3>to live a little more positive and see things more positively, Like,

1324
01:09:01.039 --> 01:09:05.000
<v Speaker 3>just find some way to see something that you perceive

1325
01:09:05.039 --> 01:09:06.960
<v Speaker 3>as negative. Try to find a way to see it

1326
01:09:07.119 --> 01:09:10.600
<v Speaker 3>in a positive way. Whatever it is you're looking at

1327
01:09:10.720 --> 01:09:14.079
<v Speaker 3>or facing, find some way, I don't care how fucked

1328
01:09:14.159 --> 01:09:16.760
<v Speaker 3>up it is, find a way to make it seem positive.

1329
01:09:17.159 --> 01:09:20.439
<v Speaker 3>And just start doing that, like to yourself in the

1330
01:09:20.520 --> 01:09:23.279
<v Speaker 3>back of your mind, think like that, anytime something happens

1331
01:09:23.279 --> 01:09:25.399
<v Speaker 3>to you, just find a way to make it positive.

1332
01:09:25.479 --> 01:09:29.399
<v Speaker 3>Start making yourself do that, and eventually it'll just happen.

1333
01:09:29.880 --> 01:09:32.840
<v Speaker 3>You'll start seeing things differently. You know, You'll start seeing

1334
01:09:32.920 --> 01:09:36.520
<v Speaker 3>things and you're practicing and manifesting a more positive reality

1335
01:09:36.560 --> 01:09:40.960
<v Speaker 3>by trying, you know, is all I'm saying. And I

1336
01:09:40.960 --> 01:09:46.520
<v Speaker 3>think that's very important, super super important. People that run

1337
01:09:46.520 --> 01:09:50.359
<v Speaker 3>around being negative all the time they stress me out.

1338
01:09:50.800 --> 01:09:53.680
<v Speaker 3>I do not like negativity at all, I don't want

1339
01:09:53.720 --> 01:09:57.119
<v Speaker 3>to hear it at all, Just don't. Yeah, it does

1340
01:09:57.159 --> 01:10:00.880
<v Speaker 3>stress me out. I get stressed out easy. Yeah, me too,

1341
01:10:01.039 --> 01:10:05.239
<v Speaker 3>And especially negativity. I think that comes with being very

1342
01:10:05.359 --> 01:10:08.479
<v Speaker 3>energy sensitive. And that's why I'm really happy to like,

1343
01:10:08.600 --> 01:10:12.600
<v Speaker 3>I've learned certain techniques from the Monrostitute, and I'm kind

1344
01:10:12.640 --> 01:10:14.720
<v Speaker 3>of like going down this path of like learning more

1345
01:10:14.720 --> 01:10:19.359
<v Speaker 3>stress management techniques, breathing techniques, things like that. Yeah.

1346
01:10:19.479 --> 01:10:21.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'd be happy to show you any time,

1347
01:10:21.239 --> 01:10:23.279
<v Speaker 2>but I think that those things really do help for

1348
01:10:23.479 --> 01:10:26.680
<v Speaker 2>energy sensitives. Yeah, one, one.

1349
01:10:26.640 --> 01:10:30.439
<v Speaker 3>Three, But it was one one.

1350
01:10:30.720 --> 01:10:33.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. The one was saying that when we were

1351
01:10:33.359 --> 01:10:35.439
<v Speaker 2>he was pointing that out to me. But no, no,

1352
01:10:35.439 --> 01:10:37.840
<v Speaker 2>I I completely agree, And I think it comes from

1353
01:10:37.840 --> 01:10:42.720
<v Speaker 2>being energy sensitive, being being very overstimulated from external energy.

1354
01:10:43.079 --> 01:10:45.399
<v Speaker 2>But the burden is on all of those of us

1355
01:10:45.439 --> 01:10:48.960
<v Speaker 2>who are truly connected to the spiritual, who truly understand

1356
01:10:49.159 --> 01:10:51.800
<v Speaker 2>the deeper meaning of what's really going on behind the

1357
01:10:51.840 --> 01:10:54.199
<v Speaker 2>scenes in the spirit world. It's more than just black

1358
01:10:54.199 --> 01:10:56.000
<v Speaker 2>and white you know what your church is teaching you.

1359
01:10:56.279 --> 01:10:58.199
<v Speaker 2>It's more than just like, yeah, I love my crystals,

1360
01:10:58.239 --> 01:11:00.720
<v Speaker 2>but f Jesus, like, no, no, no, there's there's something really

1361
01:11:00.720 --> 01:11:04.319
<v Speaker 2>deep going on here. You know, there there are forces

1362
01:11:04.760 --> 01:11:08.399
<v Speaker 2>that are actually constantly interacting with you in an invisible

1363
01:11:08.399 --> 01:11:12.840
<v Speaker 2>world that you can't see. And there's good, there's bad.

1364
01:11:12.880 --> 01:11:18.239
<v Speaker 2>There's there's electromagnetic forces that are constantly affecting your consciousness,

1365
01:11:18.239 --> 01:11:21.079
<v Speaker 2>your your nervous system, your brain. You know, you're you're

1366
01:11:21.439 --> 01:11:24.399
<v Speaker 2>you're being overloaded with invisible energies.

1367
01:11:25.760 --> 01:11:26.640
<v Speaker 3>Like that eclipse.

1368
01:11:26.880 --> 01:11:31.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's it's important to be aware of protecting

1369
01:11:31.359 --> 01:11:38.000
<v Speaker 2>yourself from like external negative energies. But anyway, we should.

1370
01:11:37.760 --> 01:11:39.239
<v Speaker 3>All practice being positive.

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01:11:40.079 --> 01:11:40.520
<v Speaker 2>I agree.

1372
01:11:40.600 --> 01:11:42.680
<v Speaker 3>That's like the best advice to give anybody.

1373
01:11:42.960 --> 01:11:45.960
<v Speaker 2>That's what Dad has told me more than anything. Be positive,

1374
01:11:46.000 --> 01:11:48.079
<v Speaker 2>be happy, be positive. Like I don't want to hear

1375
01:11:48.079 --> 01:11:48.479
<v Speaker 2>that right now.

1376
01:11:48.600 --> 01:11:51.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean either I never did, but now I

1377
01:11:51.239 --> 01:11:53.520
<v Speaker 3>find myself saying it all the time and live.

1378
01:11:53.319 --> 01:11:54.800
<v Speaker 2>In that way and telling everybody else.

1379
01:11:54.720 --> 01:11:58.079
<v Speaker 3>And telling everybody, telling Teddy, be positive, be happy. Don't

1380
01:11:58.119 --> 01:12:03.359
<v Speaker 3>ever ever say something that, especially about yourself, especially or

1381
01:12:03.399 --> 01:12:06.000
<v Speaker 3>another person say that to him all the time too.

1382
01:12:06.399 --> 01:12:07.600
<v Speaker 3>You don't ever.

1383
01:12:07.479 --> 01:12:09.439
<v Speaker 4>Talk bad about yourself ever.

1384
01:12:10.199 --> 01:12:11.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I think it even says that in the Bible

1385
01:12:12.199 --> 01:12:15.119
<v Speaker 3>in some place metaphorically. Yeah, it does says if you

1386
01:12:15.199 --> 01:12:17.479
<v Speaker 3>curse a tree, it'll die. Yeah, but it says more

1387
01:12:17.520 --> 01:12:19.159
<v Speaker 3>than that too. Or if you tell a mountain to move,

1388
01:12:19.159 --> 01:12:23.000
<v Speaker 3>it'll move. Yeah. There is another thing. I'm probably wrong

1389
01:12:23.039 --> 01:12:25.479
<v Speaker 3>about it, but something about if you curse your left hand,

1390
01:12:25.479 --> 01:12:26.640
<v Speaker 3>cut it off or something.

1391
01:12:26.560 --> 01:12:28.199
<v Speaker 2>Or no, it says if your left hand of fends you,

1392
01:12:28.239 --> 01:12:28.600
<v Speaker 2>cut it.

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01:12:28.560 --> 01:12:29.680
<v Speaker 4>Off, okay.

1394
01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:32.439
<v Speaker 2>In other words, if there's any sort of vices or

1395
01:12:32.439 --> 01:12:34.600
<v Speaker 2>things that are causing you trouble or things that you're

1396
01:12:34.640 --> 01:12:37.399
<v Speaker 2>doing that are wrong and you can't control it, remove it,

1397
01:12:37.680 --> 01:12:38.520
<v Speaker 2>get it out of your life.

1398
01:12:39.000 --> 01:12:43.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I always kind of interpreted that as you know, yeah,

1399
01:12:43.880 --> 01:12:45.760
<v Speaker 3>pretty much what you said. But like you know, if

1400
01:12:46.159 --> 01:12:49.600
<v Speaker 3>you're finding things something negative or there's bad stuff or

1401
01:12:49.680 --> 01:12:52.000
<v Speaker 3>negative things, you know, remove it, get theah, cut it out,

1402
01:12:52.079 --> 01:12:52.960
<v Speaker 3>get out it, get it.

1403
01:12:53.159 --> 01:12:54.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, get it out of there.

1404
01:12:55.920 --> 01:13:02.159
<v Speaker 2>Agreed. Walking down this path is not and it requires patience,

1405
01:13:02.159 --> 01:13:06.119
<v Speaker 2>It requires humility, It requires just constantly being you know,

1406
01:13:06.560 --> 01:13:09.720
<v Speaker 2>reminding oneself, be positive, be positive, be positive, reminding others

1407
01:13:09.720 --> 01:13:10.880
<v Speaker 2>be positive, be positive.

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01:13:10.960 --> 01:13:13.520
<v Speaker 3>I want to know more about why do you Why

1409
01:13:13.520 --> 01:13:16.880
<v Speaker 3>do you think it is that, like I was saying earlier,

1410
01:13:16.920 --> 01:13:18.439
<v Speaker 3>and I feel bad that I said it that I

1411
01:13:18.560 --> 01:13:22.079
<v Speaker 3>liked killing as a kid I did. I did like

1412
01:13:22.119 --> 01:13:25.479
<v Speaker 3>to hunt, shoot and kill. You know, I liked hunting.

1413
01:13:25.880 --> 01:13:28.159
<v Speaker 3>I was feeling bad about that. But why do you

1414
01:13:28.239 --> 01:13:33.079
<v Speaker 3>think it is that we changed so drastically after seeing

1415
01:13:33.119 --> 01:13:36.600
<v Speaker 3>this spiritual thing there, or this UFO or whatever. Why

1416
01:13:36.640 --> 01:13:40.399
<v Speaker 3>Why would I go from loving to hunt like that

1417
01:13:41.159 --> 01:13:44.560
<v Speaker 3>and and like really loving it to now like I

1418
01:13:44.600 --> 01:13:48.119
<v Speaker 3>don't or or and there's other things too, like I

1419
01:13:48.159 --> 01:13:51.680
<v Speaker 3>went from being not so good in some areas to

1420
01:13:51.800 --> 01:13:55.399
<v Speaker 3>now I'm not like that. Why why it happened to dad?

1421
01:13:55.439 --> 01:13:58.359
<v Speaker 3>It happened to me? Why why do you think that's happening?

1422
01:13:59.279 --> 01:14:05.319
<v Speaker 2>My honest view is because I believe that it is

1423
01:14:05.319 --> 01:14:11.960
<v Speaker 2>a spiritual initiation that when you when you experience things

1424
01:14:11.960 --> 01:14:16.439
<v Speaker 2>that are extremely dramatic, especially things that are concerning, like

1425
01:14:17.000 --> 01:14:22.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, the spirit world, seeing interdimensional beings, things like that,

1426
01:14:22.439 --> 01:14:27.279
<v Speaker 2>it it has an effect on your soul that begins

1427
01:14:27.319 --> 01:14:31.520
<v Speaker 2>this awakening process where you become more intimately connected to

1428
01:14:31.560 --> 01:14:35.760
<v Speaker 2>the spiritual. You become more empathic, your psychic abilities, increase

1429
01:14:35.800 --> 01:14:38.359
<v Speaker 2>your awareness of the other reality even though you're not

1430
01:14:38.399 --> 01:14:39.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, seeing it all the time with your eyes,

1431
01:14:39.880 --> 01:14:41.560
<v Speaker 2>which we kind of do is you know, you know,

1432
01:14:41.600 --> 01:14:44.199
<v Speaker 2>worms of light all the time. But you know what

1433
01:14:44.239 --> 01:14:47.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Like you're constantly being more aware of this

1434
01:14:48.159 --> 01:14:52.119
<v Speaker 2>invisible reality, and you start to become more acclimated to

1435
01:14:52.199 --> 01:14:55.520
<v Speaker 2>the truth and and being more in resonant with the truth,

1436
01:14:55.560 --> 01:14:58.359
<v Speaker 2>which is like being humble, being kind, being christ like

1437
01:14:58.439 --> 01:15:01.520
<v Speaker 2>being loving, being feeling sorry for other people when they're suffering,

1438
01:15:01.840 --> 01:15:04.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, not not wanting to cause harm to other beings.

1439
01:15:04.119 --> 01:15:07.239
<v Speaker 2>It's just a natural process that unfolds, because once you

1440
01:15:07.279 --> 01:15:12.319
<v Speaker 2>go through that initiation process, it's like it's it's this

1441
01:15:12.520 --> 01:15:17.159
<v Speaker 2>journey that just it's it's like the turning lead into

1442
01:15:17.159 --> 01:15:22.279
<v Speaker 2>gold in alchemy. The metaphor is that basically, your soul

1443
01:15:22.399 --> 01:15:25.520
<v Speaker 2>is this screwed lead before this process, and then you

1444
01:15:25.560 --> 01:15:28.359
<v Speaker 2>start this process to where your soul is now being

1445
01:15:28.800 --> 01:15:32.079
<v Speaker 2>forged by fire. Well, that fire is the spirit, and

1446
01:15:33.039 --> 01:15:36.760
<v Speaker 2>it is going to be refined and refined and burned

1447
01:15:36.800 --> 01:15:39.800
<v Speaker 2>and broken down and turned into this beautiful bar of gold.

1448
01:15:39.920 --> 01:15:43.520
<v Speaker 2>So what does that look like? All the external events

1449
01:15:43.560 --> 01:15:49.199
<v Speaker 2>that have caused suffering and trauma in your life.

1450
01:15:49.079 --> 01:15:50.760
<v Speaker 3>Minerals like just burning off.

1451
01:15:51.279 --> 01:15:58.239
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's these karmic lessons phoenic exactly exactly, that's the

1452
01:15:58.279 --> 01:15:59.279
<v Speaker 2>same exact metaphor.

1453
01:15:59.439 --> 01:16:01.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, Huh.

1454
01:16:01.319 --> 01:16:03.720
<v Speaker 2>It's the process of dying and being reborn. I could

1455
01:16:03.720 --> 01:16:05.640
<v Speaker 2>say it in a thousand ways. You're being born again,

1456
01:16:05.720 --> 01:16:07.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, like you're being baptized in fire. There's all

1457
01:16:07.720 --> 01:16:08.680
<v Speaker 2>these different mythologies.

1458
01:16:08.720 --> 01:16:09.880
<v Speaker 4>I was baptized in water.

1459
01:16:10.319 --> 01:16:13.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, last Sunday, I was in the pond and Dad's

1460
01:16:13.279 --> 01:16:17.880
<v Speaker 2>in Mom's backyard when I was fifteen. But yeah, anyway, Yeah,

1461
01:16:17.920 --> 01:16:19.720
<v Speaker 2>so that's that's why I think. That's why I think

1462
01:16:19.760 --> 01:16:24.319
<v Speaker 2>you've changed so dramatically, and it's it's because it's a

1463
01:16:24.439 --> 01:16:28.039
<v Speaker 2>very real spiritual process that is occurring on the level

1464
01:16:28.039 --> 01:16:31.840
<v Speaker 2>of your soul, huh, and everybody who experiences.

1465
01:16:32.039 --> 01:16:33.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. At first I kind of wondered if it had

1466
01:16:33.760 --> 01:16:35.880
<v Speaker 3>only happened to Dad, But then at the same time,

1467
01:16:36.000 --> 01:16:39.039
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, no, it definitely happened to me too. I

1468
01:16:39.119 --> 01:16:43.960
<v Speaker 3>had to have yeah, because I like, I had to hunt.

1469
01:16:44.039 --> 01:16:46.319
<v Speaker 3>I wanted to, like that was what made me happy,

1470
01:16:46.880 --> 01:16:49.039
<v Speaker 3>you know, hunting, and I just don't have.

1471
01:16:48.920 --> 01:16:50.439
<v Speaker 4>That anymore like that I used to.

1472
01:16:51.640 --> 01:16:56.079
<v Speaker 3>It just doesn't exist. So it has to have happened

1473
01:16:56.079 --> 01:16:59.520
<v Speaker 3>to me as well. And there's other things too, like

1474
01:16:59.600 --> 01:17:00.199
<v Speaker 3>the hunt.

1475
01:17:00.279 --> 01:17:04.880
<v Speaker 4>That I have changed. I would say, it's crazy.

1476
01:17:06.439 --> 01:17:09.520
<v Speaker 3>I've always wondered, Yeah, it's cool to see what you think,

1477
01:17:09.560 --> 01:17:14.359
<v Speaker 3>and that totally makes sense. It's like in a spiritual awakening. Well,

1478
01:17:14.399 --> 01:17:16.840
<v Speaker 3>it was important to you before just doesn't matter the

1479
01:17:16.880 --> 01:17:19.680
<v Speaker 3>same anymore, not at all. You see the world just

1480
01:17:19.720 --> 01:17:23.079
<v Speaker 3>so differently. Huh.

1481
01:17:23.119 --> 01:17:24.600
<v Speaker 2>You start to see a lot of that old stuff

1482
01:17:24.600 --> 01:17:26.760
<v Speaker 2>didn't matter and if anything was making your life harder,

1483
01:17:26.880 --> 01:17:27.560
<v Speaker 2>making it worse.

1484
01:17:28.039 --> 01:17:32.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeap, money doesn't matter. Stuff doesn't matter to me.

1485
01:17:32.399 --> 01:17:37.760
<v Speaker 2>To me, going broke as a kid wasn't the worst trauma. Oh,

1486
01:17:37.760 --> 01:17:40.479
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure I still have my team. Yeah, I mean,

1487
01:17:40.520 --> 01:17:42.479
<v Speaker 2>that wasn't No. I mean, it was horrible and had

1488
01:17:42.520 --> 01:17:44.520
<v Speaker 2>to move around town and all that, and nobody should

1489
01:17:44.520 --> 01:17:48.079
<v Speaker 2>experience that. But that wasn't the worst part. The worst

1490
01:17:48.079 --> 01:17:51.319
<v Speaker 2>part was the UFOs and the angelic beings appearing, and

1491
01:17:51.319 --> 01:17:53.159
<v Speaker 2>then seeing how you guys were treated, and then kind

1492
01:17:53.159 --> 01:17:54.880
<v Speaker 2>of seeing how I began to be treated when I

1493
01:17:54.920 --> 01:17:56.800
<v Speaker 2>would talk about it by the time I was fourteen

1494
01:17:56.840 --> 01:17:59.399
<v Speaker 2>or fifteen, and then just seeing this impact that it had,

1495
01:17:59.439 --> 01:18:01.760
<v Speaker 2>and then how the over swooped in and got involved

1496
01:18:01.800 --> 01:18:04.319
<v Speaker 2>and started to you know, try to control and all

1497
01:18:04.359 --> 01:18:07.199
<v Speaker 2>this all this stuff started unfolding. To me, that was

1498
01:18:07.239 --> 01:18:11.319
<v Speaker 2>the trauma. It was all these negative external forces that

1499
01:18:11.359 --> 01:18:14.039
<v Speaker 2>were like, yeah, I could shaming us and mocking us

1500
01:18:14.039 --> 01:18:16.119
<v Speaker 2>and humiliating us and torturing us.

1501
01:18:16.319 --> 01:18:19.359
<v Speaker 3>If it was hard for me, and I could being

1502
01:18:19.399 --> 01:18:21.560
<v Speaker 3>an adult, I could get up and leave. I can't

1503
01:18:21.600 --> 01:18:24.479
<v Speaker 3>imagine what it was like for y'all being little kids

1504
01:18:24.520 --> 01:18:26.760
<v Speaker 3>that had to stay at home no matter what.

1505
01:18:27.159 --> 01:18:30.239
<v Speaker 2>Don't ever talk about that, Yes, sir, I'm sorry. You know,

1506
01:18:30.319 --> 01:18:31.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm a child. What am I gonna do? Try to

1507
01:18:32.039 --> 01:18:37.399
<v Speaker 2>tell you you're wrong? Sorry, what'll happened again? And then

1508
01:18:37.439 --> 01:18:39.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm like sitting there, you know, thinking about it and

1509
01:18:39.119 --> 01:18:40.840
<v Speaker 2>thinking about it. Oh my god, they just shut me up,

1510
01:18:40.880 --> 01:18:41.399
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean.

1511
01:18:41.880 --> 01:18:43.560
<v Speaker 3>And then now here you are, I wonder what that

1512
01:18:43.600 --> 01:18:44.359
<v Speaker 3>person thinks.

1513
01:18:44.439 --> 01:18:47.840
<v Speaker 2>Now, Oh dude, I've heard all kinds of things you

1514
01:18:48.720 --> 01:18:50.479
<v Speaker 2>tell me. I mean, I don't know if it's the

1515
01:18:50.479 --> 01:18:53.159
<v Speaker 2>thinking I don't want to talk about people on the show, Yeah,

1516
01:18:53.159 --> 01:18:53.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean it does.

1517
01:18:53.640 --> 01:18:56.319
<v Speaker 3>Don't have to say any names, but it might help

1518
01:18:56.399 --> 01:18:59.640
<v Speaker 3>the viewer give them a little context, like they want

1519
01:18:59.640 --> 01:19:00.560
<v Speaker 3>to hear stuff.

1520
01:19:00.600 --> 01:19:03.520
<v Speaker 2>I think there are people in our family who think

1521
01:19:03.600 --> 01:19:06.159
<v Speaker 2>it's like absolutely crazy that I do this, and that

1522
01:19:06.319 --> 01:19:08.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm just out here talking about evil stuff.

1523
01:19:08.239 --> 01:19:10.119
<v Speaker 4>All the time and you're going to Hell.

1524
01:19:10.840 --> 01:19:13.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's probably the conclusion. Yet, Yeah, I think

1525
01:19:13.720 --> 01:19:17.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like talking about demonic things. Couldn't be further

1526
01:19:17.760 --> 01:19:20.520
<v Speaker 2>from the truth. I think I did one episode about

1527
01:19:20.560 --> 01:19:27.560
<v Speaker 2>hell and light and right, helping people, you know, connect

1528
01:19:27.560 --> 01:19:29.920
<v Speaker 2>to God. That's kind of the main thing. Helping people

1529
01:19:29.920 --> 01:19:32.359
<v Speaker 2>figure out how to go outside and have this real

1530
01:19:32.359 --> 01:19:35.159
<v Speaker 2>connection with the spirit world and like see these angelic beings.

1531
01:19:35.159 --> 01:19:37.159
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's been a lot of a lot of

1532
01:19:37.199 --> 01:19:39.880
<v Speaker 2>that happening. But you know, yeah, there are people that

1533
01:19:39.920 --> 01:19:42.319
<v Speaker 2>think it's absolutely crazy that I'm doing this, But I.

1534
01:19:42.279 --> 01:19:44.199
<v Speaker 3>Mean, do you do you see what I'm trying to say,

1535
01:19:44.239 --> 01:19:48.279
<v Speaker 3>Though I do, I kind of feel bad for them. Yeah,

1536
01:19:48.520 --> 01:19:51.960
<v Speaker 3>we have this special knowledge that I was lucky enough

1537
01:19:52.039 --> 01:19:56.159
<v Speaker 3>to see and know that most people don't get to

1538
01:19:56.640 --> 01:19:58.920
<v Speaker 3>actually know their whole life. I don't have to hunt

1539
01:19:58.960 --> 01:20:02.920
<v Speaker 3>and search and look for UFOs or spiritual beings or what.

1540
01:20:03.000 --> 01:20:05.319
<v Speaker 4>I don't have to hunt and wonder.

1541
01:20:05.079 --> 01:20:08.520
<v Speaker 3>Right, most people will wonder their whole life and search

1542
01:20:08.800 --> 01:20:12.319
<v Speaker 3>and they may die never actually knowing.

1543
01:20:12.399 --> 01:20:13.640
<v Speaker 4>I don't have to think that way.

1544
01:20:14.159 --> 01:20:19.279
<v Speaker 3>I just always know, and it's just just crazy. Some

1545
01:20:19.359 --> 01:20:23.119
<v Speaker 3>of our some of our people, you know, they live

1546
01:20:24.119 --> 01:20:27.439
<v Speaker 3>by the by the code and they believe it.

1547
01:20:30.439 --> 01:20:31.359
<v Speaker 4>And they're not right.

1548
01:20:31.560 --> 01:20:33.600
<v Speaker 2>That's crazy to me too, man, Like, I don't think

1549
01:20:33.600 --> 01:20:36.079
<v Speaker 2>people quite get that. I've had so many videos sent

1550
01:20:36.119 --> 01:20:38.720
<v Speaker 2>to me over the last I don't know how many years,

1551
01:20:38.760 --> 01:20:40.439
<v Speaker 2>you know, many years, and people be like, have you

1552
01:20:40.439 --> 01:20:42.439
<v Speaker 2>seen this congressional hearing? Have you seen this UFO thing?

1553
01:20:42.479 --> 01:20:44.600
<v Speaker 2>Have you seen this UFO thing? And I'm like, what

1554
01:20:44.640 --> 01:20:46.399
<v Speaker 2>do you guys think? I'm just sitting around looking at

1555
01:20:46.479 --> 01:20:49.520
<v Speaker 2>UFOs all the time, Like now, walking outside, I'm seeing them. Yeah,

1556
01:20:49.560 --> 01:20:50.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't care watch this crap.

1557
01:20:50.640 --> 01:20:51.439
<v Speaker 3>I don't need to too.

1558
01:20:51.560 --> 01:20:52.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I get.

1559
01:20:52.039 --> 01:20:54.279
<v Speaker 3>It's like when I went to the contact in the desert, dude,

1560
01:20:54.640 --> 01:20:56.640
<v Speaker 3>and I'm meet and you know, a lot of them

1561
01:20:56.640 --> 01:20:58.760
<v Speaker 3>are really nice people and I'm not going to say

1562
01:20:58.800 --> 01:21:01.319
<v Speaker 3>any names, but there were some like really big UFO

1563
01:21:01.479 --> 01:21:04.880
<v Speaker 3>celebrities there. I'm meeting these people and shaking hands with

1564
01:21:04.920 --> 01:21:07.479
<v Speaker 3>them and I've never seen their faces before. I don't

1565
01:21:07.479 --> 01:21:09.600
<v Speaker 3>know anything about them. I don't know what they do.

1566
01:21:09.960 --> 01:21:12.760
<v Speaker 3>And they're like the top names. Some of the guys.

1567
01:21:12.800 --> 01:21:14.680
<v Speaker 3>They're like, Bro, you know who that is? That's so

1568
01:21:14.800 --> 01:21:18.279
<v Speaker 3>and so, Holy shit, she's like the ones She's done

1569
01:21:18.319 --> 01:21:20.079
<v Speaker 3>all this and that, And I've never even heard of

1570
01:21:20.079 --> 01:21:23.039
<v Speaker 3>this lady before I meet her. She's like ninety years old.

1571
01:21:23.119 --> 01:21:25.920
<v Speaker 3>She's so sweet and she's like, oh, hey, nice to

1572
01:21:25.960 --> 01:21:30.000
<v Speaker 3>meet you. And everybody's like, hyper up, don't I don't

1573
01:21:30.039 --> 01:21:31.920
<v Speaker 3>know these people. I don't research UFOs.

1574
01:21:32.159 --> 01:21:33.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I never needed to.

1575
01:21:33.520 --> 01:21:36.720
<v Speaker 3>I saw, I saw it. I know. I'm not gonna

1576
01:21:36.720 --> 01:21:39.560
<v Speaker 3>waste my time reading about this freaking reptile. I didn't

1577
01:21:39.560 --> 01:21:42.640
<v Speaker 3>see a reptile. I'm not gonna waste my time reading

1578
01:21:42.640 --> 01:21:45.920
<v Speaker 3>on his damn gradies or watching videos. And I'd rather

1579
01:21:45.960 --> 01:21:49.000
<v Speaker 3>watch about a paintball gun. I don't know enough about that.

1580
01:21:49.239 --> 01:21:52.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and see, I'm like, I know enough text. I'm

1581
01:21:52.119 --> 01:21:54.039
<v Speaker 2>looking in other areas. I don't need to go look

1582
01:21:54.039 --> 01:21:55.359
<v Speaker 2>at all that stuff, you know what. I'm trying to

1583
01:21:55.359 --> 01:21:58.359
<v Speaker 2>find different, different, you know, hidden things.

1584
01:21:58.680 --> 01:22:01.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm mechanically minded talking about this today, I'm like, you know,

1585
01:22:02.079 --> 01:22:04.119
<v Speaker 3>very hands on with the things I do. Ryan's the

1586
01:22:04.119 --> 01:22:08.600
<v Speaker 3>book worm. He's the he's more books smart and that

1587
01:22:08.680 --> 01:22:11.560
<v Speaker 3>he can. I always thought it was so cool when

1588
01:22:11.560 --> 01:22:14.439
<v Speaker 3>I was younger you could read a book and you

1589
01:22:14.479 --> 01:22:17.520
<v Speaker 3>could remember it word for word, the whole frickin' book.

1590
01:22:17.920 --> 01:22:20.079
<v Speaker 3>You were like that when you were a kid, you

1591
01:22:20.119 --> 01:22:23.720
<v Speaker 3>could you could spout almost word for word the whole day.

1592
01:22:23.800 --> 01:22:25.560
<v Speaker 3>You could read a paragraph and tell me word for

1593
01:22:25.560 --> 01:22:26.840
<v Speaker 3>word where the paragraph said.

1594
01:22:26.920 --> 01:22:27.840
<v Speaker 4>I can't do that.

1595
01:22:29.079 --> 01:22:31.119
<v Speaker 3>It took me to like fifth grade to learn how

1596
01:22:31.159 --> 01:22:33.399
<v Speaker 3>to do that, to learn how to read a paragraph

1597
01:22:33.479 --> 01:22:36.199
<v Speaker 3>and remember it. You know, I have a different type

1598
01:22:36.199 --> 01:22:38.920
<v Speaker 3>of learning, different skill set, kinesthetic.

1599
01:22:39.159 --> 01:22:42.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm ashamed to say I haven't read a book

1600
01:22:42.760 --> 01:22:47.079
<v Speaker 2>probably in years. Yeah. There was a time where I

1601
01:22:47.119 --> 01:22:48.399
<v Speaker 2>was like reading books.

1602
01:22:48.600 --> 01:22:50.359
<v Speaker 4>All the time in a day. Yeah.

1603
01:22:50.479 --> 01:22:50.960
<v Speaker 3>I was a kid.

1604
01:22:51.000 --> 01:22:52.920
<v Speaker 2>I was always reading and reading and reading and reading.

1605
01:22:53.119 --> 01:22:56.119
<v Speaker 2>But now all my reading is uh, you know, for information. Sure,

1606
01:22:56.239 --> 01:22:58.680
<v Speaker 2>not really reading books as much as I used to.

1607
01:22:59.239 --> 01:23:01.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm reading better really. Yeah.

1608
01:23:01.000 --> 01:23:05.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm taking that skill set and applying it

1609
01:23:05.359 --> 01:23:06.119
<v Speaker 2>to different things.

1610
01:23:06.279 --> 01:23:08.720
<v Speaker 3>But because you're reaching people with it.

1611
01:23:09.199 --> 01:23:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thank you for saying that, man, And I don't

1612
01:23:10.920 --> 01:23:12.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't think you should be hard on yourself either,

1613
01:23:12.520 --> 01:23:14.760
<v Speaker 2>like everybody. You know, some people think tube of, some

1614
01:23:14.880 --> 01:23:17.199
<v Speaker 2>people play clarinet, like supporters.

1615
01:23:17.279 --> 01:23:17.760
<v Speaker 4>What do you mean?

1616
01:23:17.840 --> 01:23:20.920
<v Speaker 3>Thank you for saying that. That's all much that almost

1617
01:23:20.960 --> 01:23:24.399
<v Speaker 3>hurts my feelings. You should know that I respect everything

1618
01:23:24.439 --> 01:23:27.479
<v Speaker 3>you do and love what you do. Yeah, you should

1619
01:23:27.520 --> 01:23:28.960
<v Speaker 3>never have to say thank you for that. I'm your

1620
01:23:29.000 --> 01:23:29.720
<v Speaker 3>biggest supporter.

1621
01:23:29.920 --> 01:23:31.640
<v Speaker 2>Well what am I supposed to do when you compliment

1622
01:23:31.720 --> 01:23:33.600
<v Speaker 2>me and be like, yeah, you should have said that's right.

1623
01:23:33.720 --> 01:23:37.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say thank that ship, bro, because you're the man, You're.

1624
01:23:36.880 --> 01:23:38.039
<v Speaker 4>The bomb dude on it.

1625
01:23:38.760 --> 01:23:42.000
<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm glad that it makes you feel good.

1626
01:23:42.000 --> 01:23:45.479
<v Speaker 2>Trying to be humble. Man, I know, well, would you

1627
01:23:45.520 --> 01:23:48.079
<v Speaker 2>look at that? I had no clue. We're out of

1628
01:23:48.119 --> 01:23:50.560
<v Speaker 2>time here, so we're going to close out now.

1629
01:23:51.319 --> 01:23:54.720
<v Speaker 3>But I hope that I wasn't too weird and spouting

1630
01:23:54.760 --> 01:23:55.239
<v Speaker 3>off you.

1631
01:23:55.199 --> 01:23:56.640
<v Speaker 2>Know, awesome?

1632
01:23:57.000 --> 01:23:57.520
<v Speaker 3>It was it?

1633
01:23:57.600 --> 01:23:58.640
<v Speaker 4>Oh, it was incredible.

1634
01:23:58.840 --> 01:23:59.079
<v Speaker 2>Great.

1635
01:23:59.119 --> 01:24:01.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm glad to hear that because I'm starting to regret it.

1636
01:24:01.680 --> 01:24:03.079
<v Speaker 2>No, there was a lot of wisdom. Do you say

1637
01:24:03.079 --> 01:24:03.600
<v Speaker 2>that every time?

1638
01:24:03.960 --> 01:24:04.159
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

1639
01:24:04.159 --> 01:24:04.399
<v Speaker 3>I do.

1640
01:24:04.680 --> 01:24:07.479
<v Speaker 2>And also for the first I'm regretting.

1641
01:24:07.119 --> 01:24:10.359
<v Speaker 3>Because I spoke a lot about religion, and I've spoke

1642
01:24:10.399 --> 01:24:12.880
<v Speaker 3>about family, and when I do speak on religion, it

1643
01:24:12.920 --> 01:24:15.920
<v Speaker 3>bothers me for weeks after I think about it, and

1644
01:24:15.960 --> 01:24:17.680
<v Speaker 3>I wonder if I said the right thing. And I

1645
01:24:17.720 --> 01:24:21.399
<v Speaker 3>don't want to mess anybody's religion up or the way

1646
01:24:21.399 --> 01:24:23.399
<v Speaker 3>they believe and put them through the you know, the

1647
01:24:23.479 --> 01:24:25.159
<v Speaker 3>shock that I went through. I don't want to be

1648
01:24:25.199 --> 01:24:29.039
<v Speaker 3>the cause of that for anybody. So I think about

1649
01:24:29.039 --> 01:24:30.079
<v Speaker 3>that afterwards, and.

1650
01:24:30.560 --> 01:24:33.520
<v Speaker 2>I understand what you're saying. Yeah, but know that anything

1651
01:24:33.560 --> 01:24:37.760
<v Speaker 2>that you're saying in that moment is not something that

1652
01:24:38.960 --> 01:24:41.079
<v Speaker 2>has not been said on this show already.

1653
01:24:41.119 --> 01:24:42.880
<v Speaker 3>And I don't want to be seen as a heretic.

1654
01:24:43.680 --> 01:24:48.119
<v Speaker 2>Well you you know you already are. It's funny because

1655
01:24:48.119 --> 01:24:51.479
<v Speaker 2>we were talking about that this morning. Yeah, but just understand,

1656
01:24:51.520 --> 01:24:52.199
<v Speaker 2>I understand that.

1657
01:24:52.159 --> 01:24:52.720
<v Speaker 3>You feel that way.

1658
01:24:53.439 --> 01:24:54.399
<v Speaker 4>Not a freaking heretic.

1659
01:24:54.600 --> 01:24:57.479
<v Speaker 2>I have felt that way for many years doing this show.

1660
01:24:57.800 --> 01:25:00.640
<v Speaker 2>I have felt that I I hit a certain point

1661
01:25:00.640 --> 01:25:02.319
<v Speaker 2>where I began to feel guilty, like I don't want

1662
01:25:02.359 --> 01:25:06.159
<v Speaker 2>to destroy anyone's belief system and I still don't. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think as long as it's said with the right

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<v Speaker 2>intention and with love, there's nothing wrong with just saying

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<v Speaker 2>the truth.

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<v Speaker 3>And I feel at very least everything I've said is

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<v Speaker 3>how I've thought.

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<v Speaker 4>Or fell over the years is not the gospel.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it's the truth.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>This stuff all really happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what's the way I've felt and thought and the

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<v Speaker 3>things I've experienced. Yeah, I just wanted to clarify. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>nobody has to believe me. Nobody has to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>take my word for the gospel, right, you know this

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<v Speaker 3>is just my thoughts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well let's send it there.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's a good natural point and terrific my guys,

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<v Speaker 2>Bye bye. Weird things happen in the backyard and let

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<v Speaker 2>some house the garden to let the houses just so weird,

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<v Speaker 2>weird aware.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow,