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Experience do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the host, sponsors,

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or affiliates of the Sasquatch Experience. As always, listener discretion

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Speaker 2: We got someone or something crawling around out here?

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Speaker 3: Does a legend walk among us working in the forests

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of our world?

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Speaker 4: Did you see what it was? Was it a person

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or an animal?

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Speaker 5: Or I can't go?

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Speaker 6: Oh, I know it's if my thunder light came on

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and I get happened to glen and see the thing

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running across the.

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Speaker 7: Yard A good fight man or something.

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Speaker 8: Works like a man.

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Speaker 9: I don't know what it was.

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Speaker 3: For over fifteen years, we've talked with scientists, researchers, investigators,

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and witnesses trying to gain insight and proof around the

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existence of this mysterious entity.

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Speaker 10: Jesus, Hello, get somebody out of here.

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Speaker 11: What's going to announce there? Act about six book?

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Speaker 10: I don't know, easy announce there?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm looking right out.

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Speaker 4: Oh, okay, on, yeah, got it's bigger.

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Speaker 12: Okay, what's he doing in your yard?

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Speaker 13: Going to.

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Speaker 3: Join us? As we continue into the investigation of the Sasquatch.

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Speaker 4: Experience rules and jodles of goodness waiting just for you.

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What night, we got a great guest tonight. It's not

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about us, it's about our guest tonight, Andy McGrath. Andy,

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were popping on with us tonight. It's twong them your time,

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which makes it even more special. We're just glad you

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agreed to join up with us, and it's great to

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talk to you again after almost a decade.

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Speaker 13: It's it's awesome and it really doesn't feel like a

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decade Sean, you know, and it's a When I noticed

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that you're on the podcast, Van said, Okay, fantastic. Back

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to the beginning, which you know is a great phrase

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right now with the last Black Sabbath conterever we all

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right name right and the UK back to the beginning,

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that's a good place to star.

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Speaker 6: Wow.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, it is great point to bring up there.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: We'll just give a little bio on Andy and then

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we'll go into the you know, a little promotion that

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we do at the beginning bands if you guys have

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anything to bring up. But just to our listeners who

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may not be being familiar with Andy m grath, he's

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a cryptid researcher with over twenty five years experience called

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the Sherlock Holmes of Cryptozoolo and seeming the full connects

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modern day encounter with ancient folklore, painting a picture of

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ethno beasts, f no known beasts that might exist, just

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be on the edge of scientific discovery and the human imagination.

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Whilst continuing his literary pageant for cryptive and out of

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place animals and other parts of the world. He is

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also working on a new television series celebrating some of

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the unsign's news and forgotten beasts of zoology and far

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flung locales around the globe. If I could talk tonight,

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it would not as he appeared on tenvienni radio and

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podcast shows such as Sasquat Chronicles, Bigfoot and Beyond with

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Cliff and Bobo Talk Radios, and The Unexplained of Howard

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a regular contributed tabloy newspaper, The Daily Star, and has

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appeared in documentaries Elusive and Fix and Stones UK Bigfoot.

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described low tech, low cany, low brow endeavor to discuss

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the highs and lows of cryptozoology research and his obsession

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with some of the most renowned researchers.

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Speaker 13: In the field.

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Speaker 4: Andy, hopefully that's up with the date and modern and

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if not correct it but it's great to have you here.

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Busier man than me.

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Speaker 13: I'm very yeah, I'm very happy to be here. It's

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actually called Weird Britain. It's about history, histories, a Crown

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moment on Wednesdays and Fridays on the Plays and History

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that sold just yet. So here's the hope. Yes, very good,

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Speaker 4: We hope so too, because we really enjoy seeing our

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Speaker 13: Uh you know for some reason or me too.

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what a night boy.

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Speaker 4: And Evans can't go anywhere any older with women or

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Speaker 6: No, I look, I'm at sixty four and I still

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you say, yes, I'm sixty four doing well.

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Speaker 13: My friends are doing well. He's listening. You can give

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Speaker 5: I have no secrets. I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 6: It just happens. So this is how it is.

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Speaker 4: He stays young, that's all he likes. He preserves himself. Well,

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he likes the Redneck Riviera.

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Speaker 6: But other than that, he know, Yeah, the Redneck Riviera

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 13: It's a I thought it was location.

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Speaker 6: No, it's the drink.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I love it to talk about. Not not Vance's

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Speaker 13: Up as a topic, then we could.

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Speaker 13: And I met this ninety year old man who's still

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piloting a boat across the nest and you look very young,

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and I said, what your secret And he said, in

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sort of slightly drunk voice, copious amounts of whiskey. And

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Speaker 4: As Brian says, hose and bourbon.

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Speaker 6: As in bourbon.

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Speaker 4: If you talk to people who live over that age

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Speaker 4: I plan to live till I one hundred and fifty.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna well, good luck and I'm pulling for you, brother,

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Speaker 4: Just making sure we have enough time there because there

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as we get through this. Andy we got you know,

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you've offered several you know, pieces on the UK big Foot,

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that and I don't know about the entire team. I've

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always been on the fence about the existence of bigfoot.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's an island nation, you know, not a

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lot at least to me, points that there's a thriving

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Speaker 6: But I'm not always right.

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Speaker 4: In fact, sometimes and more often wronger than I am.

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Speaker 4: I just want to get your you know, right off

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the bad. What do you think, Andy? And with all

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this folks are in history, you know, why would I

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Speaker 13: Well, you know, I went in hard on that. For many,

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many years there was a lot of modern day sightings

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that were proclaimed in the UK, and I literally basically

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went around the country investigating these locations, looking for evidence,

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looking for proof. But I also went much further back,

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investigating something called the woodworlds. The woodworlds are these hairy

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manlike beings that appear on cathedrals, mainly churches and tapestries

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starting from the late Middle Ages, and for all intense purposes,

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they resemble what we would depict as a bigfoot today,

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absolutely more of a man like face, their heair covered beings,

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and they're all over Europe and all over the UK.

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a smoking gun, that these things are either here or

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were once here and people saw them and described them,

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or passing, and they were carved upon our churches. How

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often in our churches and cathedrals they're seen either as

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some sort of warning against this sort of sinful, lustful

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nature of man, uh sevious nature of man. Or there's

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scene as a sort of like a road to salvation,

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a way that you should be following to return back

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to Christ. Some people often cross that over with the

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green man as well, that has the the the the

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branches and the leaves coming out of his mouth that

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appear on grotesques and other carvings around churches. So I

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went into that. I thought, okay, that's the smoking gun.

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I find it. All the locations went to all the

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and with various assessments that happened that actually said that

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a massive amount of the UK is mostly uninhabited. So

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nine percent of Scotland had rural settlements including roads and cities,

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ten point six percent of England, four point eight percent

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of whales I think, and something like four point five

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percent of the Northern Irelands something like that. Anyway, right,

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there's huge amounts of land, there's and I've got to

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all kinds of prey animals. But that doesn't make it so,

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doesn't mean that there's something is here, just because the

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ecology and the absence of people does exist. And sadly,

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doubting the witnesses where they believe they saw, I could

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not find any physical evidence, not anything anything like a

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footprint like you get in the United States very often

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here there or hairs that could point to an actual

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living species be here. Right.

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Speaker 5: But with that said, if that's said, the scene kind

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of concept exists here. Also, everything that you just said

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exists here also.

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Speaker 13: I agreed it does. But at least you have or

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at least you have a formulaic form of evidence. You

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have footprint cards, many of which are fake, but many

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of which cannot be it can be proven to be fake.

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there's footage at least that proclaims to be of the

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kept staying to me and you're missing out on the

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paranormal aspect. There is something here that is that is paranormal,

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that relates more to something like a weir wolf in

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paranormal circles, and that's an entity that's been manifested and

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brought into this realm. Happens, and there's a throwback or

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a replay of something that wants did exist, as we

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see carved upon the tapestries and the cathedrals, which I'm

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not really fussed on that theory. I'm more of a

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flesh and blood kind of guy. I started like, there's

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there's a lot of empty space, but we have a

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big cat problem here as well. Lots of panthers and pumas,

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and they're large predators and they're scene all the time

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on capture one and we have very little evidence. We

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them because they're great, you know, ambush predators. If that

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until you know the fact, Laby Saint, so to speak,

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the show is not own soul. But at the moment

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if you look at animals you understand, like you said,

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the cats, then you can also look at an animal

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that may or may not exist and go, okay, well,

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if I can't find this thing, then maybe there's possible

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this thing. Also a lot of our ancient legends at least, yes,

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a few of them came from the Americas, but a

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lot of them came from the UK and Britain and

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things like that from English descent. I mean like if

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you go through, if you go through.

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Speaker 11: Like a lot of the classic horror movies, they're set

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in London, you know, they're set in English countryside, you know.

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So I mean there's there's a lot of possibility there.

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says hey, because that's what we look at me and

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four girl the time like okay, well for bear can

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make it two hundred miles in a day and nobody

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saw it.

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Speaker 4: How come this thing.

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Speaker 13: Can't you know, maybe not two hundred miles. One have

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to week there as well. Baker with I got into

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trouble a little while ago for actually saying a lot

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of North America's cryptids have at least a descriptive basis

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in European sources, and the way I related that, like

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Bigfoot being like the woodwalls, dog band in the wheel,

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for cetera, et cetera, even the Puckwardy being like a

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park course sort of a little hobgoblin or imp from

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European folklore, and the way I actually expressed I described

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it when I was looking at sightings of the Duende.

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Al Duende in Latin America, South America and also comes

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from Spain and Portugal and also the Philippines. Of all

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those countries got in common Spanish colonialism. Either the Spanish

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were importing this mean little dwarves all around the world

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and set of shipping them out to the places they invaded,

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or we inherited those countries inherited either the mythology of

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not the mythology that that terminology and that picture in

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their mental library to describe what they're seeing one or

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the other or welth perhaps in some cases, and it's

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the same case for North America and Northern Europe, either

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that the script has been passed on and that's why

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we see things now, or we're inheriting where we're sortadly

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passed on that mythology which has now become canon, actual

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tradition with its own foundation in North America, to the

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point which seems like a completely unique and original creature

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to me. It seems like its sources in least describedly.

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Speaker 6: No, that's a really good point, really good point.

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Speaker 11: One point I would add, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 10: One point I would add to that is if you

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look at the dragon in the old time paperwork, even

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like Britain and China and whatever, they didn't know what

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a dinosaur was until the eighteen hundreds.

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Speaker 11: A lot of times call these.

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Speaker 9: Bones and cave picture or like perts in a in

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a cave picture or something they didn't quite understand. I'm

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not saying the caveman's all dragons. I'm not or sell dinosaurs.

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Speaker 11: I'm not stupid, but like they they they couldn't put

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together what it was before it was a dinosaur, and

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that's where a lot of those lare came from, you know,

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because NeSSI would be considered a sea monster more than

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an assi. Believe that we now think more of a dinosaur.

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Speaker 13: Right, isn't Well?

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Speaker 14: I was going to bring up that our connection right

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now to the British Isles, we were all one continent

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at one time. Your Scottish Highlands are essentially the same

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mountains as the as the Abalachian Mountains, and during the

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time of Pangaea there was the split. And I do believe,

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especially from theology from what I've read about the British history,

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that there may have been a big foot type creature there,

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but what killed it was probably the Industrial Revolution. Once

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everything started, all these beautiful forests over there have been

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logged down and you just have the patches and patches

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of old growth that remain. It's always possible you may

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have had one or two of the species that would

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have been able to uh uh remain. But but again,

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we were all connected at one point, which is where

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I think a lot of these old time traditions, these

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old time mythologies were basically birth from after after the

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continent sweat.

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Speaker 13: That's my two cents. Oh, you only think you're really

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confined and even you know, in the even in the

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in the the way that we're expressing that there could

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have been a late extinction for some of these woodwards

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like creatures in Europe, for example, in Britain and Western Europe.

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I think a bit further over to the Caucus Mountains, uh,

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and even further along to Uncle, you've got the Almasty.

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foot tall, hair covered creature, looks very much like a

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woodwords actually and lives almost in the human like, very

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Cayman human like fashion. So at the Caucus Mountains, and

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there were sightings there right the way up until the

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Second World War and afterwards, and a lot of people

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actually believe and they were people were having like interactions

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with when they were in habit sort of empty sheds

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and the cold there and in the winter steel clothing

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of people's washing lines or bits of old rags to

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cover themselves with to keep warm or steal their crops

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hemp and things like that. And yeah, I think it's

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it's really amazing that that could have They could have

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been there until very very late, and a lot of

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people in those areas when they were interviewed, they said, well,

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their grandparents said, they used to be very uh, they

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used to be very prolific in these areas. But after

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all of the depredations the war and the Russian Revolution

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and all this that stuff, they died out and it

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became less and less people started seeing them a little

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bit less. I thought, well, perhaps the our mastica is

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a link to the western European woods as well. It's

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just another version of it, only you know, our our

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scribes and our scholars and our sculptors in the late

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Middle Ages would carving something that had been described to

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them that no longer existed for us, But for those

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people in East Eastern Europe at least, it was still

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a feature of everyday life.

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Speaker 6: How creepy is it that you would have a undiscovered

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almaid wearing human clothes. I mean, that's creepy within itself.

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Speaker 13: Maybe it's but look at the way that apes, even

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chimpanzees and gorillas behave sometimes if they and especially orangutans,

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if they see people using things, they just kind of

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copy that's true, and that's true.

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Speaker 15: Well, then it is also yeah, that counts. Well, that's

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what And North America wearing and Lane right right.

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Speaker 4: Accounts of them laundry and procuring it, learing it. But

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then our fag and just said, just not long ago,

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I watched the video of an orange parent try to

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put the jacket on.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's I'm sorry, that just is is super creepy.

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Speaker 13: It is it's memory.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they may not have a daily the constance really

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because they will that then you know picniques we had

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popped about, you know, Pangaea. You know, Matt would wrap

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it out there and and you you founded them a

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little bit. I think it some of that theory being

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that was some of those wild men soon in the

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day when helping and then I think about the stories

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of the almost when Russia these yeah, the images of them,

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but they don't really they look more like their Neanderthals

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and they do what we think of the Sasquatch. They

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were very different.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, and they seem sort of thing happened a slightly

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different sort of niche is it that I'm just looking up?

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like creatures around the world called hairy Humanoids and the regime. Kaufman,

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who was this very famous. The research that was out

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there in Russia and and in the CAUCUSUS especially. I

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can see how quote that she says, before the war

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people mentioned the village. Before the war, there were many

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Almasti's around our area, even masses of them, one can say,

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but today very few are encountered a lot, you know.

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but then coming to their fields and stealing the hemp,

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and they used to love to eat it, making these

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big sort of nose blowing noises as they were enjoying it,

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and how they were really afraid of dogs and occasionally

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would be trapped by soldiers in these these little sort

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of barns that they would hide out and the winter

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was very cold and just flee but had this sort

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of super strength as they could just really you know,

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run like crazy, or just leap out and take on

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like a you know, at least breaks through like a

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group of men and head out into the woods. And

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great stories really really, she recorded a lot of stories,

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actually her first first person witness reports in that area,

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and I just thought, well, you know, there seems to

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be reports like this all over the world. Actually, if

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either very hairy human like beings or very large ape

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like beans. With they're a bit more upright to have

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high intelligence, at least for a creature of that species,

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and in fact with people in some way, and they

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feature in their folklore, they feature in their legends. But

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also the same as having the UK in North America,

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even parts of Russia and China and Australia other places,

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there's always lots of modern day sightings of them, Like

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people like you or I have this experience. They can't

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explain that. The old I can't and see what I've seen.

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I might be a lawyer or a barrister or a doctor,

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but now I'm going to risk my entire profession to

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keep telling people I've seen something. I can't explain. That

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kind of thing that happens to people all the time

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that respond when they're very quite yeah, quite often. I've

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encountered a lot, and I just I don't care what

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happens to me. I've got to let people know that

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this happened, it was real.

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Speaker 6: Yep.

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Speaker 13: Basically yep, yep.

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Speaker 4: Vance, We're gonna go ahead and take that mid show break.

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Now we'll come back right after the Bigfoot bullhorn. Folks,

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you're listening to the Sasquatch experience, Sean Folker, Vance Nesbitt,

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James Baker, Matt Arner and tonight's guest and the Grath

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talking about Bigfoot across the Pond. We'll be back right

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after this.

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Speaker 13: News team a symbol, but I am a snowflake.

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Speaker 15: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And I also have an FMK on order.

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Speaker 8: If you don't know what an fm.

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Speaker 2: K is, it's a it's a clock replica, it's a handgun,

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it's a pistol. And I am going to be a

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gun toting snowflake after my bigfoot experience out in the woods,

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because I will never walk out into the woods again

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without a gun. And that gun will not stop a

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big Foot, but it will stop me.

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Speaker 8: I just need one.

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Speaker 2: Bullet, you know what I'm saying. I Am not going

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to be a Sasquatch sex slave. I don't want to

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hear how loud I might scream.

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Speaker 16: That's the point.

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Speaker 6: Well, maybe bring a gun big enough to take out

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a Sasquatch. You think we can get into the budget

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Sewan for twenty four million dollar m one a one

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Abrams tank. That'd be kind of cool. Great night vision

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capabilities on that thing too, and that'd be big enough

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to take one out. I was wondering, though, if there's

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any Bigfoot that we're suffering, any PTSD after this past

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weekend's you know, redneck fireworks show that happened nationwide, wait

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till next year. They're probably thinking to themselves, why is

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it the hottest time of the year when we are

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most miserable covered in air and these humans are blowing

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up bombs. Well, Happy Monday night to you all. As

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a follow up to a story that I did a

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few shows back about a father and son that were

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bowfishing and a squatch jumped out of a tree and

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then ascended up a hillside, here's a follow up from

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Action thirteen News out of Monroe, Michigan.

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Speaker 7: I a detailed report of a bigfoot sighting is still

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making waves in Monroe, Michigan.

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Speaker 8: One of the great.

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Speaker 2: Questions of our time and has some wondering whether somebody

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will spot Bigfoot again.

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Speaker 4: Thirteen Action News anchor Tony Geftis is back from Monroe tonight.

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Speaker 6: He's live in studio with the update.

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Speaker 17: Tony Lee Christian. This report was published online by the

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Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization, which deemed the sight incredible. It

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was picked up by the Associated Press, and now people

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all over have heard there may be a bigfoot in Monroe.

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A reported bigfoot sighting in Monroe, Michigan has made headlines

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across the country.

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Speaker 8: I heard a lot of talk about it. In fact,

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when I first heard about it, I was in Baltimore, Maryland,

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and I heard about it there and I said, oh

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my gosh, I leave home for a week, look what happened.

476
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Speaker 17: Bob Virgil's Voice of the Toledo Wallero County Resident says

477
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,079
the report of bigfoot near the Pleasants Road is a talker.

478
00:29:04,359 --> 00:29:06,279
The account by a local man and his son was

479
00:29:06,279 --> 00:29:09,920
published by the Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization. It took off

480
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,359
from there, even prompting a nearby cannabis dispensary to offer

481
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,039
a discount to anyone who comes in with photographic proof.

482
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 8: There was what was called the Monroe Monster years years ago.

483
00:29:19,559 --> 00:29:22,319
After the first fuel was loaded into the FIRMI one reactor,

484
00:29:23,039 --> 00:29:27,319
someone saw a big creature out near the Fermi power plant.

485
00:29:27,559 --> 00:29:30,240
And so I think it's really funny that this was

486
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spotted near where that was. Although they didn't really say

487
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,880
what the location was, but it's near where the Monroe

488
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,400
Monster was seen way back in the nineteen sixties.

489
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Speaker 17: Some may wonder whether it's the same creature from the

490
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,480
same lagoon. Now, I did reach out to the forty

491
00:29:46,519 --> 00:29:48,839
seven year old Monroe man who made that report. I

492
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,039
reached out through his tenant who called him. We're going

493
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to keep you posted as to whether he can give

494
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:54,799
us a first hand account of what he and his

495
00:29:54,799 --> 00:29:57,680
twelve year old son saw along Tamarack Creek.

496
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Speaker 6: Christian ants not Christian, but good try anyway, at least

497
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,440
you didn't have to listen to me talk about it.

498
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:10,599
It's still an interesting report, although again Matt Moneymaker says

499
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,960
it's a very plausible account and it could very well be.

500
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,519
There was just a couple of things in that report

501
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,279
that initially had me scratch my head, saying, well, the

502
00:30:20,319 --> 00:30:23,640
witnesses said it started moving towards them, and then it

503
00:30:23,759 --> 00:30:28,759
was as sending up an emhankment. Also, which direction was

504
00:30:28,799 --> 00:30:33,079
it going? But who am I? I'm a nobody. When

505
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we come back, we'll all sit around in a circle

506
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and watch Sean pitch a tent.

507
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Speaker 4: You're listening to the.

508
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Speaker 1: Big football vern right here on the Sasquatch experience.

509
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510
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511
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512
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of gifts and merchandise two from awesome apparel, ware.

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know where to get some great knockers. They make fun

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gifts or accessories for the squatch bag. Just visit Godknockers

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dot org again got knockers dot org. Well, I'll tell

521
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you once again to mark your calendars for August twenty

522
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second and twenty third of twenty twenty five, and get

523
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524
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Speaker 6: Whether you're a true believer or just curious, it's an

525
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event you won't want to miss. What event is that, Well,

526
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it's the Pennsylvania Bigfoot Camping Adventure. It's at Benner's Meadow

527
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Run RV Campground in Farmington Pennsylvania, and there will be

528
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notable speakers there like Matt Arner, Sean Forker, doctor Jeff Meldrum,

529
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Ron Moorehead, Steve Coles, one of my favorites, Stan Gordon

530
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and Lyle Blackburn, but so many more. Again, it is

531
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the Pennsylvania Bigfoot Camping Adventure August twenty second and twenty third,

532
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and of course there's night hikes into the woods. Bring

533
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that tank. Thanks again for listening to this edition of

534
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the Bigfoot Bullhorn right here on Anomalous Entertainments, Sasquatch Experience,

535
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and gentlemen, as always, until we meet again, keep your

536
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toe in the mind.

537
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Speaker 4: Mind Van she managed to do it again. Thank you

538
00:33:27,759 --> 00:33:30,359
very much for that. I don't know about us sitting

539
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around the circle watching me pitch a tent. Absolutely weird,

540
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but nonetheless great production value. Right there, folks, listen to

541
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546
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Experiences with Sean Falker. A short little podcast will be

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thrown out there exclusive for our patreons starting this weeknd.

548
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Of course, we've been dropping a sasquatch of Experienced Classic

549
00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:13,519
now for the last two weeks. We'll be continuing to

550
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do that until we went out of them. But there's

551
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,880
over one hundred episodes of the original one Team bill

552
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,400
and do that through as well. So our guests tonight,

553
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,800
Andy McGrath, coming to us live from the u K.

554
00:34:26,039 --> 00:34:29,639
A little after thirty is time. So glad you're joining

555
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,360
us tonight, and in being Matt, you wanted to take

556
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,679
us in from the next break, So go ahead, buddy.

557
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:39,199
I I appreciate that. Thank you so much.

558
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 14: Andy. The one thing with North American Bigfoot history is

559
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,960
that stretch us back, particularly with the Native Americans, in

560
00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:51,880
going back to two thousand and two, you know, two

561
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:57,280
thousand years that we see these these legends that have

562
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:03,519
been brought forth generation and generation. One comparison that I

563
00:35:03,679 --> 00:35:08,280
was thinking of when it came to the British side

564
00:35:09,159 --> 00:35:16,239
is BeO Wolf and Grendel. What do you think with

565
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:22,639
the with Beowulf and the you know, the monster Grendel.

566
00:35:23,119 --> 00:35:27,239
It's portrayed very similar to what you would consider an

567
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,440
alnest or a bigfoot. What are your thoughts on that.

568
00:35:32,079 --> 00:35:35,159
Speaker 13: I think it's very very possible. Remember in that part

569
00:35:35,159 --> 00:35:37,920
of the world they have the troll var, which are

570
00:35:38,599 --> 00:35:43,280
these huge og like creatures that can be very hairy

571
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,960
as well, and I think would be good matches for

572
00:35:46,199 --> 00:35:49,400
all today we would consider to be a bigfoot or

573
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:54,800
a sasquatch. What's weird about the beowolf epic. They don't

574
00:35:55,079 --> 00:35:58,199
describe it as a troll var, They don't say it.

575
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,800
They they describe it as this beast. They say that

576
00:36:01,039 --> 00:36:03,320
by wolf pulls off one of its arms. That's how

577
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,119
he kills it. It bleeds to death. The boy the arms,

578
00:36:07,679 --> 00:36:09,880
and it seems more like some sort of kind of

579
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,719
fine mouse and some kind of lasid creature of some kind.

580
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,239
And some of the ways it's described, it's not very specific.

581
00:36:17,039 --> 00:36:19,679
It could be a big foot like creature, it could

582
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,559
be petrol of off. But what confuses me is why

583
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,599
do they not call it that, because that's their word

584
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,800
for that creature in that country, yet it's not used.

585
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,760
So yeah, that's a bit strange.

586
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 14: But in Grendel is the obviously the big one. You know,

587
00:36:36,199 --> 00:36:39,280
everyone on this side of the pond too, is Red

588
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,000
Beowolf in college or high school. Now, are there any

589
00:36:43,159 --> 00:36:47,000
other uh, mister legends from around that time or even

590
00:36:47,119 --> 00:36:51,599
even stretching back into the Roman period? Uh, that would

591
00:36:51,639 --> 00:36:55,559
be similar to a big foot Almah.

592
00:36:56,519 --> 00:37:01,199
Speaker 13: I you know, I don't know, apart from going way, way,

593
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,679
way way back to the Babylonian period, which is is

594
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,360
an anky he described it seems to be harry. But

595
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:12,280
even Hercules, by the way, is described Heracles in a

596
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:17,599
very big Foot like terms. He's very big, he's very hairy,

597
00:37:17,639 --> 00:37:20,880
he's very muscly. It has this kind of super strength

598
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,159
as well as this virility that sort of takes around

599
00:37:24,199 --> 00:37:27,599
the place and gets involved in adventures with But there

600
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,639
is one here, a tale from the King Arthur epic

601
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:37,559
that could have a Bigfoot like crossover, which is the

602
00:37:37,639 --> 00:37:41,239
tale of Sugar Wayne and the Green Knight. Now, when

603
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,079
I was filming Weird Britain recently, we actually went to

604
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:45,719
Lud's Church.

605
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,599
Speaker 16: Which is in something called the Roaches In It's in

606
00:37:49,679 --> 00:37:53,519
sort of Mercier area in the High Midlands and it's

607
00:37:53,639 --> 00:37:55,480
very hilly, very rocky area.

608
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Speaker 13: Lots of great legends around there, and what are these

609
00:37:58,679 --> 00:38:01,360
valleys in the middle is in all of this Green

610
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Master's called the Green Church, or literature is the Layer

611
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,840
of the Green Knight. So the story goes that the

612
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:12,599
Green Knight was a giant of kinds, greenish at least

613
00:38:12,639 --> 00:38:16,119
sort of slimey greenish, covered in this either hair or

614
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,599
scales of some kind. And he comes to Arthur's court

615
00:38:19,679 --> 00:38:23,199
and basically boasts that he can defeat any knight, and

616
00:38:23,199 --> 00:38:32,440
he offers the go to lunch Church a year later

617
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,840
and have his own head struck by the Green Knight.

618
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,360
And he tries to cut off the Green Knight's head.

619
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He almost says that he doesn't quite succeed, and the

620
00:38:39,639 --> 00:38:41,400
Green Knight sort of walks away and says, I'll see

621
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,360
you in the Europe. That's beside the point. The descriptions,

622
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,719
even the drawings that you get here in kids' books.

623
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,880
He's wearing armor of a kind, but he just looks

624
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,239
like a giant, Okay, it looks like this huge, hairy

625
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,519
sasquatch kind of creature. I always thought, oh, there was

626
00:38:58,599 --> 00:39:04,920
any root of truth in that legend. If if that

627
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:09,480
one is, there is there a retelling event. I haven't

628
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:10,039
seen that one.

629
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 11: And there's been actually a few of the Green Knight.

630
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,000
I know, there's been a few of those, just like

631
00:39:15,119 --> 00:39:20,760
the the the other story we're talking about beil Wolf.

632
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,440
But in that one, well, Angelina Jolie is kind of

633
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:30,400
a dragon slash naked stick. But but but in the

634
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,639
Beowolf that I watched was the reason that the reason

635
00:39:33,679 --> 00:39:35,960
the creature was different was because it was kind of

636
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,400
a hybrid. There's a little bit of her and a

637
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:39,199
little bit of a king.

638
00:39:40,159 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 6: That's right.

639
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,119
Speaker 13: But the mother is the clue because in the Bewelf story,

640
00:39:44,199 --> 00:39:47,000
I think be Wolf is a kind of dragon of sorts,

641
00:39:47,159 --> 00:39:49,159
and the fact that his mother is depictured as a

642
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,320
dragon as well, I think has a bit more of

643
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,199
a clue in it. Then, of course it's a mystical creature,

644
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,719
is it rough not, that's that's the name of the king.

645
00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:02,119
We're supposed to have slept with them being tempted and

646
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:07,119
birthed this monds if you asked the video you now

647
00:40:07,159 --> 00:40:10,239
I've seen it. I've definitely it's the first time I've

648
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:16,159
ever found attractive. I'm going to be honest. But yeah,

649
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,480
I mean there's a lot of course, you know, missing legends.

650
00:40:19,559 --> 00:40:23,000
They're melded together for a reason. They tell stories. There's

651
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:27,239
that kernel of truth, and also they get borrowed, they

652
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:32,400
get passed down. We discovered something here again recently filming

653
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,320
this series all around Britain. You go county by county,

654
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:39,280
country by country, looking at all of the legends in

655
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:44,079
every single county around the UK, and what happens a

656
00:40:44,159 --> 00:40:47,199
lot of the time is that these legends are repeated

657
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,360
and there's these themes that occur again and again and again,

658
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,480
but they're changed slightly. And what we figured out is

659
00:40:53,519 --> 00:40:55,920
the bards who used to be the poets of old

660
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,960
that would pass news around and stories. They would make

661
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,800
a living by telling these stories and tales, and they

662
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,400
would get room and board for them, and they could

663
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,199
criticize kings and do whatever they wanted. In fact, if

664
00:41:08,199 --> 00:41:10,599
the bard criticized was a king, you couldn't kill them,

665
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,840
and they get essentially ruin your reputation, so you had

666
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,440
to be aware of the bard. Anyway, the bards will

667
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,679
go from town to town telling these same stories for

668
00:41:20,039 --> 00:41:23,039
you know, food and wine and somewhere to sleep. Of course,

669
00:41:23,079 --> 00:41:24,880
they can't tell the same story in the same way

670
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,119
all the time. They would slightly modify it every time

671
00:41:28,159 --> 00:41:29,840
they went to a new town and perhaps fit it

672
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,880
to that locale. I think a lot of these stories

673
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,519
same probably in North America too. You get that kernel

674
00:41:36,519 --> 00:41:39,880
of truth that's been modified time and time again to

675
00:41:40,159 --> 00:41:41,239
share with a new audience.

676
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 3: Interesting.

677
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:49,119
Speaker 6: So my question is, on a scale of one to ten,

678
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:57,800
ten being the most definite, what is your opinion that

679
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:04,280
this creature definitely exist in the UK.

680
00:42:06,599 --> 00:42:09,159
Speaker 13: I'm gonna I'm going to very very sadly, and I

681
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:13,679
say this like remorse and sorrow at my heart. I

682
00:42:13,679 --> 00:42:16,039
think we're on about a three point five right now.

683
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:22,360
Really are strong witness strong witness testimonies, that's the three

684
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:22,960
point five.

685
00:42:23,679 --> 00:42:29,679
Speaker 6: Okay, Yeah, I can completely climb on board with that.

686
00:42:29,679 --> 00:42:34,920
That that's that's a good assessment, And that's.

687
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 13: Not beneficial to me vance to say that because you know,

688
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,760
in our industry, the yarn as we just talked about,

689
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,679
the tale that that tails that are spun, that's all

690
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,320
part of it. You always amused me that every conference

691
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:51,000
you go to in the US, every single local bigfoot

692
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,199
group from every county has their own foot pre cast

693
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,000
right somehow right and then selling. So I'm not saying

694
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,119
the wall fake or anything, but it's it's it's part

695
00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:03,440
of the it's part of the merchandising, isn't it. Yeah,

696
00:43:03,599 --> 00:43:09,480
it's community right. I think that it's unlikely that it's here,

697
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,199
but it's it's the truth, and for me so far anyway,

698
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,599
it's what I've come up with. I've just got to

699
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:17,320
stick to it, you know, better or words.

700
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:22,199
Speaker 11: But I respect that because if you you're on the

701
00:43:22,199 --> 00:43:25,920
same page i am. I've never seen anything. I've heard

702
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,400
a lot of stories, and the people that have seen things,

703
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,400
they're honest about it most to that, so I believe

704
00:43:32,559 --> 00:43:36,639
there's something and something happened to them. But like I'm

705
00:43:36,639 --> 00:43:40,119
at like a four to two like I at this point,

706
00:43:40,159 --> 00:43:41,840
I couldn't say one hundred percent yes.

707
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Speaker 8: Be this.

708
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Speaker 14: You know, Andy, what's the most compelling story or recollection

709
00:43:51,079 --> 00:43:55,159
you've heard about from a big foot encounter in the UK?

710
00:43:56,119 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 13: I'll tell you read it. It's my favorite story. It's

711
00:44:00,199 --> 00:44:02,840
there's two, but i'll tell you the main one comes

712
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:07,079
from a primate keeper thirty seven years worked for major

713
00:44:07,159 --> 00:44:11,320
Zoos in the UK. He was a promatologist, herpetologist and

714
00:44:11,639 --> 00:44:16,360
he actually, by all accounts, he retired and he used

715
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,599
to go wild camping in Scotland with his brother every

716
00:44:20,599 --> 00:44:23,400
summer and most of the UK. You can't just camp

717
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,280
anywhere you want. You need permission, but in Scotland it's

718
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,400
completely legal. You can just pitch up a tent camp

719
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,760
wherever you want. So that they're in a place called

720
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:36,199
Strasbey Forest, which is not far from Locknest, maybe twenty

721
00:44:36,199 --> 00:44:39,360
miles away from Lockness, and it's part of the old

722
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,880
Caledonium for a sort of a remnant of it, this

723
00:44:42,039 --> 00:44:44,039
big forest. He has been the north of the country

724
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,599
and they've decided to hunt rabbits in the morning. They've

725
00:44:47,639 --> 00:44:50,159
spotted the field where there's lots of rabbits, and they've

726
00:44:50,159 --> 00:44:52,559
got light arms because we don't really have biguns here,

727
00:44:52,599 --> 00:44:54,159
so they've got these light arms are going to take

728
00:44:54,599 --> 00:44:57,599
that will kill a rabbit. He air guns or something

729
00:44:57,679 --> 00:45:00,400
like that. So they get a bit five in the

730
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:04,199
morning they go into this field and they remember there

731
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,039
was lots of blackberries in the field and that's one

732
00:45:07,039 --> 00:45:09,480
of the things that sort of was a market to them.

733
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,960
And they're stalking very slowly and the guy in front,

734
00:45:13,519 --> 00:45:16,000
the primatologist, he's irritated with his brother who's got this

735
00:45:16,039 --> 00:45:21,480
heavy footfall, and suddenly, you know, he sort of sees

736
00:45:21,519 --> 00:45:24,519
his brother's face just sort of garping, what you're looking

737
00:45:24,559 --> 00:45:28,559
at me, turns around and maybe fifty feet in the distance,

738
00:45:28,599 --> 00:45:32,679
he can see this big black fury shape about his height. Now,

739
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,360
he wasn't a tall guy, who's about five for two,

740
00:45:35,559 --> 00:45:38,880
quite short, but this shape is bent over and it's

741
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,440
five for two. So we've got no bears. Okay, we

742
00:45:42,519 --> 00:45:44,960
don't have any big animals like that, other than maybe

743
00:45:45,039 --> 00:45:47,440
a cow or a deer. And it's the wrong color

744
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,840
and it's a one kind of fur and he's looking

745
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,239
at it and suddenly it cops its head to the side,

746
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,800
gets up, stands up, and turns around. And he said

747
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:01,039
it was like a gigantic and gorilla eight feet tall,

748
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,800
with long legs like a human, really sick, and huge

749
00:46:06,039 --> 00:46:09,400
black fur. And the way he described the face was

750
00:46:09,559 --> 00:46:12,159
very like Promatologist. He said it was almost like an

751
00:46:12,199 --> 00:46:16,320
older banobo chimp folding on top a little bit with

752
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,960
the pinkish lip and quite a fat muzzle, too flat

753
00:46:20,039 --> 00:46:23,559
for a banobo, but still that kind of appearance. He said,

754
00:46:23,599 --> 00:46:26,360
it looked at him. He sort of dropped the yeah, God,

755
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,480
like I was going to do anything down, stared at him,

756
00:46:30,159 --> 00:46:33,840
and then just turned and walked away, occasionally looking back

757
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,679
at him just to keep so like, as you know,

758
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,280
you see that behavior all the time with them, don't

759
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,559
be checking over his shoulder to see where he is.

760
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:46,159
And then disappears. He turns around, Oh my gosh, what

761
00:46:46,639 --> 00:46:49,519
on earth was that? And his brother's gone. He must

762
00:46:49,519 --> 00:46:51,159
have run when it happened. And he gets back to

763
00:46:51,199 --> 00:46:53,480
camp and his brothers already kept backing all of their

764
00:46:53,519 --> 00:46:57,239
things back into the into the car and say getting

765
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:58,679
ready to leave, and he's like, no, I want to

766
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,880
I want to go and find it, Go and find it.

767
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,719
It's like now we're like, we're out of here. We're

768
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:07,960
not staying, we're leaving. So that one was very, very compelling.

769
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,679
It had lots of elements, most of them. This guy

770
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,199
said to me, and he heard his name because he

771
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,480
said he didn't want to affect his pension as a

772
00:47:16,519 --> 00:47:22,760
you know, a form of bird keeper revealing anyway. He

773
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:27,039
said to me, this was not something that was a

774
00:47:27,119 --> 00:47:30,079
human in any way. This was a siming. This was

775
00:47:30,119 --> 00:47:35,880
an ape, but with human like characteristics in posture and

776
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,320
you know size. I'm think he was talking about the

777
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:43,039
legs probably most likely there were straight legs essentially, and

778
00:47:43,079 --> 00:47:46,719
he said, I just I can't I can't get over

779
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,639
what I've seen. I know what I'm looking at. So

780
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:54,920
that was a really amazing one. And another one, I'll

781
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,239
just tell you one more happened close to here in

782
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,920
a place called box Hilt, Dorking, which is near the

783
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:06,199
South Surrey Downs. So just as they come outside of London,

784
00:48:06,199 --> 00:48:08,400
you've got the bordering is Surrey at the bottom there

785
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,599
that's where I live and a fiddly down. It's a

786
00:48:11,639 --> 00:48:14,039
lovely countryside area that will lead you all the way

787
00:48:14,079 --> 00:48:17,360
to the coast, almost unbroken if you want to. And

788
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,320
there's lots of great hills in and there's a very

789
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,440
popular walker spot. It's about a hill about seven hundred

790
00:48:22,519 --> 00:48:25,400
feet high and it has these earthen steps cut into

791
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,400
it all the way up and it's all lovely trees

792
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,719
and things surrounding it. So in the same year twenty twelve,

793
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,800
in the summer, some lunatics, not me, jog it. They

794
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,480
chug about the hills and this jogger is jogging up

795
00:48:38,519 --> 00:48:40,480
the hill and it's going up and come back down

796
00:48:40,599 --> 00:48:43,719
and is having like an energy drink on near to

797
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,000
the bottom, maybe twenty feet from the bottom, on the steps,

798
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,480
the earthern steps. It's about ten o'clock, but it's still sunny.

799
00:48:49,639 --> 00:48:52,880
It's the lightes to have. And suddenly they hear some

800
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,920
footsteps coming down behind them, and this person's, oh, there

801
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,400
must be a dog walker. I'll just come to the side.

802
00:48:58,679 --> 00:49:02,880
Nobody passes them, and what's that? And then they smell

803
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,920
this kind of stale, weird, stale farm animal kind of

804
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:10,719
smells it. O man, About ten to fifteen feet up

805
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:15,920
the steps, see this hulking eight bl like creature, maybe

806
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,800
only six six and a half fay tall, very broad,

807
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:25,280
very square jaw and almost not chronical, but slightly domed head,

808
00:49:25,679 --> 00:49:33,440
grayish brown fur, looking just looking curiously and oh my gosh,

809
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,360
what earth is this? And then again it looks at

810
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:40,559
them ten to fifteen seconds, turns and walks away to go,

811
00:49:40,679 --> 00:49:43,079
and the sort of the steps kind of snake that way.

812
00:49:43,119 --> 00:49:45,000
So you get these lots of bends where you can't

813
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:49,000
see the tree until it gets out of sight, keeps

814
00:49:49,039 --> 00:49:53,719
looking back over children again. And those two accounts for me, anyway,

815
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,199
are the best two accounts in the UK. And I

816
00:49:56,199 --> 00:49:59,599
can't fault the witnesses. Whatever they thought they saw, they

817
00:49:59,639 --> 00:50:00,800
saw real or not.

818
00:50:04,119 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, and yeah, both of those right man, yep, both

819
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,239
of those stimilate to.

820
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 5: Wow, that's incredible.

821
00:50:15,679 --> 00:50:21,519
Speaker 6: Ah, I can't put it in any more of a

822
00:50:21,639 --> 00:50:24,480
context than that.

823
00:50:23,559 --> 00:50:24,679
Speaker 5: That's incredible.

824
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,599
Speaker 6: Both of those accounts.

825
00:50:27,639 --> 00:50:30,519
Speaker 13: My favorite, absolutely and that kept me going for you

826
00:50:30,679 --> 00:50:33,400
is those two accounts, is like that stuff gonna six

827
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,639
for those two accounts of my key.

828
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 6: Wow.

829
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:42,199
Speaker 14: Yeah, I was gonna say the first one with such

830
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:49,800
a an educated and experienced person being able to have

831
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,639
that observation in a while is just I mean, that's

832
00:50:53,679 --> 00:50:56,960
the old and that's an incredible, incredible.

833
00:50:56,559 --> 00:51:03,519
Speaker 13: Attemnt, right right, Yeah, yeah, So I mean who knows.

834
00:51:03,559 --> 00:51:06,360
I mean, just because I can't find it, does it made?

835
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,760
It's not here. All I've been able to conclude as

836
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,039
a researcher is I have not been able to find evidence,

837
00:51:13,079 --> 00:51:15,480
which is where I'm standing because I've come to this

838
00:51:15,519 --> 00:51:19,079
point now and I'm like, don't never defend the indefensible, endy,

839
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,559
you don't have to die on a hill. You can

840
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,360
just investigate the hill and see what it looks like.

841
00:51:25,039 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 14: Yeah, right, Is there any are there any other projects

842
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,639
you're working on right now? Other than now we we

843
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:42,480
know that Sean brought up about, you know, the TV production.

844
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:47,320
Is there any new projects you're working on into the

845
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,480
summer here of twenty twenty five and yeah beyond.

846
00:51:50,639 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 13: Yeah, I've got so I've got a new book. That's

847
00:51:54,079 --> 00:51:57,199
there's a few projects. Apart from the Weird Britain TV show,

848
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:00,119
which is only available in the UK the month sorry,

849
00:52:00,519 --> 00:52:05,480
there's a new book, Beasts of the World Hairy Humanoids.

850
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,360
That's my big foot book already. It's available on Amazon.

851
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:13,679
It's been out for three years. Volume two, which is

852
00:52:14,519 --> 00:52:17,360
Beasts of the World Water Monsters, which is all of

853
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:22,559
the different aquatic beasties throughout history, all around the world

854
00:52:22,559 --> 00:52:24,320
and all the categories. I've just finished it.

855
00:52:24,639 --> 00:52:28,599
Speaker 6: We hear, we hear.

856
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:30,119
Speaker 19: Oh.

857
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:36,280
Speaker 13: Yeah, So there's that. And then I've got two. I've

858
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:41,039
written and published two of the first of twelve children's

859
00:52:41,039 --> 00:52:44,679
books called a Monster Kid's Guide, and they're available online

860
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,440
too on all the platforms. So the first one is

861
00:52:46,519 --> 00:52:51,599
Yetti a Monster Kids style long cooard sized guy for

862
00:52:52,079 --> 00:52:55,639
kid adults alike. Gives you the whole background, it gives

863
00:52:55,639 --> 00:52:59,639
you the's, the theories, and then at the end there's

864
00:52:59,639 --> 00:53:02,079
like a little bit for researchers to get started.

865
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 6: For the kids.

866
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:09,280
Speaker 13: Forward nets the places you can visit. And I've got

867
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,760
one of the second one is Nessy Amongst the Kid's

868
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:12,559
guide does the.

869
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 6: Same thing for the kids. Ah, that's a film.

870
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 5: I love that the kids.

871
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 6: I know.

872
00:53:23,079 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 14: For me, one of my one of my goals, one

873
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,280
of my bucket list of things to do in life,

874
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,280
is to to go to Scotland, go to Lockness and

875
00:53:31,639 --> 00:53:34,719
uh spend the spend some time out there, you know,

876
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,039
and yeah, you see what's going on.

877
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 13: Yeah, and also there definitely giving me a call back.

878
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:42,079
Speaker 18: You know.

879
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,679
Speaker 13: It's also it's a lot more pristine than you'd think.

880
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,840
It's a big tourist area. But actually at night it's black.

881
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:53,679
It's dark. I walk from Lockness at night and.

882
00:53:55,079 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 8: Corch.

883
00:53:55,519 --> 00:53:59,760
Speaker 13: I didn't see another light anywhere along the journey. I

884
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,320
had the river on that side, had the Caledonian Canal

885
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,599
on this side. That took me five hours to get

886
00:54:06,599 --> 00:54:09,760
to get back. Wow at night alone and I heard

887
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,960
splashing at all kinds of things like you do in rivers.

888
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,199
So if Nessy right there right now in this river

889
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,960
or that canal, I would not I would be none

890
00:54:20,159 --> 00:54:23,280
the long Ah.

891
00:54:24,119 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 14: And yeah, I know that there was a lot of

892
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,360
research going on that I guess are they're saying that

893
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,199
it could be a giant eel from the eel DNA.

894
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:36,920
I don't know what your thoughts are on that.

895
00:54:38,079 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 13: I recently we uh for the TV program we sent

896
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:47,320
to a submersible drone down to Lochness and also in Lochmorale,

897
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,639
which is a lot clearer, lot easier to see in

898
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,960
Lockeromoor and steeper. We did actually see a very sizeable

899
00:54:53,039 --> 00:54:56,519
ill that we caught on camera, which is good, I think,

900
00:54:56,559 --> 00:54:59,079
at least a good sort of I know, maybe close

901
00:54:59,159 --> 00:55:02,519
to a meter or something. But it doesn't fit the

902
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:07,719
morphology the physiology of what people cite. It can't physiologically,

903
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:12,079
emil couldn't do those things that people are described and seeing.

904
00:55:12,599 --> 00:55:16,000
So I think it's either one or two things. Either

905
00:55:16,119 --> 00:55:19,639
it's a species that we're mistaking. Seals occasionally get into

906
00:55:19,679 --> 00:55:23,880
the loch that's actually come into the rivernesse when it's

907
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:28,280
in spatments in flood. A big shark or a whale

908
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,239
or nothing like that could ever get in there. There's

909
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:34,239
just too many shallow sort of troughs along the way. Really,

910
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,880
But an aquatic animal like a seal can maybe a

911
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,079
gray seal, they are very big. That's a possibility. But

912
00:55:40,159 --> 00:55:44,320
the problem with seals is once you sort of the

913
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,760
subterfuge doesn't last long, doesn't take more than a few

914
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,639
seconds to click. That's a seal and it wouldn't feel

915
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,199
would not fool any logan room.

916
00:55:53,719 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 4: Right, Well, guys, we pretty much un to the end

917
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,480
of the show. Did anybody gets Scott's question from the

918
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:06,559
Patreon because I think we answered it in an out

919
00:56:06,599 --> 00:56:07,280
about way.

920
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:08,599
Speaker 13: I think so.

921
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:13,159
Speaker 4: All right, folks, Andy, tell tell folks where they can

922
00:56:13,199 --> 00:56:15,239
find you and and follow me further.

923
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:16,559
Speaker 8: Yeah.

924
00:56:16,679 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 13: Sure, So the best place to find me is probably

925
00:56:19,119 --> 00:56:22,960
Facebook under my own name Andy McGrath. You'll see me

926
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:28,920
there or under Beastly Theories or with Britain. If you

927
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:30,679
want to put a link to all my stuff in

928
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:37,280
the chat, if I can ask the chest don't maybe

929
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:37,840
I'll get that.

930
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:39,599
Speaker 6: I know, we get it.

931
00:56:40,039 --> 00:56:41,760
Speaker 4: We'll put it as well.

932
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:48,760
Speaker 13: So folks to you, ye will get the said the stories.

933
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,440
If you've got any tales to tell, reach out. Well,

934
00:56:51,519 --> 00:56:52,480
we'll have a chat.

935
00:56:53,599 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 11: And thank you for your time.

936
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 12: I know this was really for you or early I guess,

937
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:03,519
I don't know what your schedule. Yeah, and if we

938
00:57:03,559 --> 00:57:05,760
can ever do the same thing, we'll give you advance.

939
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 13: I will show up on your terms too.

940
00:57:14,119 --> 00:57:15,159
Speaker 5: I know I will.

941
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 6: I will show up on your terms to day or night.

942
00:57:21,119 --> 00:57:24,559
I will show up on your terms too. Well.

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Speaker 4: I'm want to thank you all for stopping you with

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us tonight. It is time to wrap it up. Andy,

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thank you so much, my friend for coming on. Well,

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if Henry was here, he'd say will all be good

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or big good ally, but he's not, and in that note,

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good night.

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Speaker 8: Everybody.

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Speaker 4: Will see you in two weeks Alex Pettikov our next guest,

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talking about Appalachia Goodness, We'll see you then.

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