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Speaker 1: and see what's going on in the world of parenting.
Speaker 2: The World of parenting. Jay Leno, he fell down. Jay
Speaker 2: Leno fell down a hill. Yeah, fall He fell down
Speaker 2: a hill out, a seventy four year old former Tonight
Speaker 2: Show hosts and TV personality, showed up at his comedy
Speaker 2: show over the weekend with an eye patch of broken
Speaker 2: wrist and the entire left side of his face looked
Speaker 2: like it was bruised. He was on with Conway yesterday
Speaker 2: to kind of explained what was going on, but it
Speaker 2: was it looked really, really bad. Comcast has announced it's
Speaker 2: going to move forward with a plan to spin off
Speaker 2: its NBC Universal cable TV networks, acknowledging it's going to
Speaker 2: be better off without a business that was once its
Speaker 2: crown jewel. The company last month said it was studying
Speaker 2: the idea, is now going to separate off entertainment and
Speaker 2: news channels. Like MSNBCCNBC USA, oxygen E, Sci Fi and
Speaker 2: Golf Channel. Bravo of course known for the Real Housewives franchise,
Speaker 2: and another will stay in the mother Ship, along with
Speaker 2: a Peacock streaming service, and of course the NBC broadcast network.
Speaker 1: Well, Big Food, which once was Big Tobacco, but then
Speaker 1: with a war on Big Tobacco was waged and they
Speaker 1: pivoted to big Food, and they've been marketing products to
Speaker 1: people who can't stop eating, making it seem like it's
Speaker 1: okay that you can't stop eating. In fact, it's very
Speaker 1: in to binge eat. It's very in to order six
Speaker 1: different entrees at the fast food joint. In fact, we'll
Speaker 1: give you six for two or something like that. Now
Speaker 1: suddenly the people who can't stop eating can because of ozembic,
Speaker 1: because of waygovy, because of these GLP ones.
Speaker 3: Taylor is an example.
Speaker 1: Taylor lives and Hayward used to nurse a sugar addiction,
Speaker 1: he said, but now he can no longer stomach hostess traits.
Speaker 1: He had some candy from his daughter a couple days
Speaker 1: before this interview. He said, I just couldn't it was
Speaker 1: so sweet it choked me. This is a guy whould
Speaker 1: have a midnight snack cereal. But now at midnight he
Speaker 1: gets these strange urges for salads, chicken. He doesn't want sodas,
Speaker 1: he doesn't want fruit juices. He has water with lemon
Speaker 1: and cucumber. He loves Swiss charred eats, a lot of kale.
Speaker 1: That's a nightmare scenario for big food. Yeah, they talk
Speaker 1: about just the lack of desire. Well, another guy, Larry,
Speaker 1: is a sixty nine year old from Pittsburgh, Kansas, and
Speaker 1: he described being just emptied of desire for what he
Speaker 1: used to love.
Speaker 2: He's on way govy. He says he's thirty five pounds
Speaker 2: lighter than he was in the spring. And he said
Speaker 2: his whole life was fast food. Now the first place
Speaker 2: he goes when he goes to the store the produce section.
Speaker 2: My favorite is the Mount Rainier cherries and apples, the
Speaker 2: peaches and pears. Almost everyone's cravings for those ultra processed
Speaker 2: foods were replaced with a lust for fresh and unpackaged alternatives.
Speaker 2: It's not just and I don't understand the brain chemistry
Speaker 2: of this. It's not just that you feel full, it's
Speaker 2: that you don't have a desire for those types of
Speaker 2: foods anymore. My father was diagnosed pre diabetic a few
Speaker 2: years ago, and the doctor had suggested a full change
Speaker 2: of his diet, no sugar at all, among other things.
Speaker 2: And he was a guy who always had a garden fresh,
Speaker 2: you know, not a lot, but zucchini and cucumbers and
Speaker 2: peppers and.
Speaker 4: Things like that.
Speaker 2: And he said that things like bell peppers became dessert
Speaker 2: to him, because when you take out the artificial sugars
Speaker 2: from your diet, your body begins to reacclimate and crave
Speaker 2: the actual natural sugars that occur in those foods, and
Speaker 2: that certain things like citrus and apples were almost too
Speaker 2: sweet for him.
Speaker 3: That's so fascinating.
Speaker 1: It just realized how screwed up your taste buds are,
Speaker 1: how messed up they've become. They say around seven million
Speaker 1: Americans now take this GLP one drug, and that by
Speaker 1: twenty thirty five that is going to be at about
Speaker 1: twenty four million. From seven million to twenty four million.
Speaker 1: Are they anticipating that these drugs get subsidized in some
Speaker 1: way because right now they're punitively expensive.
Speaker 4: Well, and they're going to fight again.
Speaker 2: The food industry is massive, and they are going to
Speaker 2: fight against the government any sort of government subsidies for
Speaker 2: those types of drugs.
Speaker 4: But here's the issue.
Speaker 2: We still don't know what the long term effects of
Speaker 2: being on something like this is down in the future,
Speaker 2: you'll lose your left arm. Well, let me use the
Speaker 2: example of olestra. Remember when olestra came into it into
Speaker 2: being in the mid nineties, I think something like that,
Speaker 2: and they wanted to throw it into potato chips among
Speaker 2: other snack foods, because they it was an indigestible fat
Speaker 2: substitute that didn't have any calories.
Speaker 4: The problem is you would often.
Speaker 2: Blow out whatever pant product you had on at the
Speaker 2: time because it would cause not my words, fecal incontinence.
Speaker 4: Now do you know what they use olestra for now?
Speaker 4: Are They don't use it in humans anymore?
Speaker 2: Don't they use it to paint decks and lubricate power
Speaker 2: tool Hell? And we were wow, because we're that obsessed
Speaker 2: with finding the chips.
Speaker 1: Oh my god boy, oh boys. Right, you mentioned Pittsburgh, Kansas.
Speaker 1: It's funny to me Pittsburgh, Kansas. So is Manhattan, Kansas.
Speaker 1: I'm watching a show right now in Manhattan, Kansas. A
Speaker 1: bunch of new Yorkers came out to Kansas and just
Speaker 1: decided to name it after Manhattan.
Speaker 4: They could think anything else.
Speaker 1: Guess, uh, fascinating, But it is a what you watch
Speaker 1: on Wednesday. It is the show that I am referring
Speaker 1: to is on HBO Max and I've gotten into it
Speaker 1: pretty heavy. Somebody somewhere is the name of it, heard
Speaker 1: of it and it's very good. Okay, it's not for you.
Speaker 1: Oh but it's one of those.
Speaker 3: Well it's just I don't think that you would. It's
Speaker 3: not for you.
Speaker 4: Tell me what's for me and what's not?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, a lot of that, all right, Okay, well
Speaker 5: farming we will get into say, oh yeah, we have
Speaker 5: a swamp watch. We forgot to do swamp I know,
Speaker 5: I totally forgot to do swamp watch.
Speaker 3: All right, My bad. I get confused sometimes with the time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of difficult lately, isn't it? With the
Speaker 4: clock on the wall several?
Speaker 3: All right, Well you didn't pull me back.
Speaker 4: Because we were talking about fun stuff, right, yeah. Fecal
Speaker 4: incontinents very upset at that.
Speaker 2: Still, about four hundred and eighty seven thousand people or
Speaker 2: households without power up in Washington State after this double
Speaker 2: bomb cyclone rattled through Washington State overnight. Hurricanes hurricane force
Speaker 2: winds hit the area. Authority said at least one person
Speaker 2: was killed. We're starting to see some of the effects
Speaker 2: of this big, powerful storm coming through northern California. We've
Speaker 2: seen avalanche warnings posted for Mount Shasta, the North Bay area,
Speaker 2: the Sonoma Marin County area expected to see as much
Speaker 2: as ten inches of rain over the next two or
Speaker 2: three days up there.
Speaker 4: JD.
Speaker 1: Vans and Matt Gates have met behind closed doors with
Speaker 1: GOP senators today in Washington.
Speaker 3: That's where we kick off Swamp Watch.
Speaker 6: Swamp is horrible, so the.
Speaker 4: Government doesn't work.
Speaker 3: Man, gonna make this like a reality TV show.
Speaker 6: Corn Pop was a bad doos always.
Speaker 3: A pleasure to be anywhere from Washington, d C.
Speaker 7: A Joe, a town all too clearly built on a
Speaker 7: swamp and in so many ways still a swamp.
Speaker 3: I have to watch Malwaukee, he.
Speaker 6: Said, drained the swamp. I said, oh that's so helle.
Speaker 6: You know the thing.
Speaker 1: Senators leaving these closed door meetings with Gates and JD.
Speaker 1: Vance had a message, just get the man to a hearing.
Speaker 1: Swaths of Senate Republicans have not committed to supporting Gates.
Speaker 1: Lisa Murkowski Susan Collins have been vocal about serious doubts
Speaker 1: and getting him confirmed as attorney general. He has a
Speaker 1: litany of allegations he's faced, including he had sex with
Speaker 1: a minor that he paid for sex. He has denied
Speaker 1: doing any wrongdoing. The House Ethics Committee today right now
Speaker 1: trying to decide whether to share the report that they've
Speaker 1: been assembling on those accusations for more than a year.
Speaker 2: Senator John Kennedy Ala Louisiana was asked about it in
Speaker 2: the halls of the Capitol this morning. This meeting that
Speaker 2: was called between the Vice president elect, Like you said,
Speaker 2: JD Vance and Matt Gabe, and.
Speaker 7: J D asked for the meeting, and you know, we
Speaker 7: may talk about the Daniel's cowboys.
Speaker 8: I think you're undecided.
Speaker 6: They think you're so I have no idea.
Speaker 7: You don't have to talk to them. They just said
Speaker 7: for a meeting, and I said, sure, I love meetings.
Speaker 6: Do you do you have concerns about Kates? Have you
Speaker 6: decided where you ben?
Speaker 7: We've got a process, as you know, and we're going
Speaker 7: to follow it and we're going to have a full
Speaker 7: hearing in front of God and Country, and we're going
Speaker 7: to vet all the nomination, not just Congress when gauged.
Speaker 2: So the House Ethics Committee, like you said, is meeting
Speaker 2: right now. I guess one of the things that they're
Speaker 2: concerned about, at least the chair of the committee is
Speaker 2: concerned about it, is that the report itself is not complete, which.
Speaker 3: It wasn't said to be in its final stages right right.
Speaker 2: But I don't know if that means they just haven't
Speaker 2: printed it on the correct letterhead yet or what does
Speaker 2: it mean that they're not complete now. Democrats on the
Speaker 2: Senate Judiciary Committee, since they're the ones who would be
Speaker 2: in charge of confirming or denying Matt Gates's nomination, they've
Speaker 2: sent a letter to the Director of the FBI to
Speaker 2: ask for the complete evidentiary file from the FBI's investigation
Speaker 2: into these allegations of sex trafficking of minors against Gates.
Speaker 2: The Democratic senators said that the allegations are significant in
Speaker 2: light of the fact that his associated a guy named
Speaker 2: Joel Greenberg, had pleaded guilty to sex trafficking charges for
Speaker 2: which Gates was also investigated, and they wrote in their
Speaker 2: letter in order for the Senate to perform its constitutional duty.
Speaker 2: In this instance, we must be able to thoroughly review
Speaker 2: all relevant materials that speak to the credibility of these
Speaker 2: serious allegations. Democrats note that the FBI in the past
Speaker 2: provided more than two thousand pages of interviews and summaries
Speaker 2: related to the investigations of improper fundraising by the Clinton
Speaker 2: Gore campaign, and hundreds of thousands of documents related to
Speaker 2: the decision not to charge former Secretary of State Hillary
Speaker 2: Clinton for her use of that private email server. So
Speaker 2: they said, basically that if you're willing to do that,
Speaker 2: you should be willing to divulge some of the information
Speaker 2: about potential Republican that you're investigating.
Speaker 1: Details about DOZE continue to come out Trump's new Department
Speaker 1: of Government Efficiency. Of course, Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswami
Speaker 1: have been tapped to run this thing. They say that
Speaker 1: they are expected to make a push for an end
Speaker 1: to remote work across federal agencies as they try to
Speaker 1: reduce the federal workforce through attrition. They have publicly lamented
Speaker 1: the number of employees working remotely across the government. Early
Speaker 1: priorities include an effort to immediately end all of this,
Speaker 1: making a five day work week a requirement for all
Speaker 1: federal employees. The thinking is that this kind of mandate,
Speaker 1: coupled with moving agencies out of DC, will cause many
Speaker 1: federal workers to just voluntarily leave, so then they'll be
Speaker 1: able to thin out the federal workforce ranks and say
Speaker 1: the government money. About two million people have government federal
Speaker 1: government jobs. And I saw a rundown and business insider
Speaker 1: this morning of how much people make. I mean, is
Speaker 1: it is insane. Let's see Department of Veterans Affairs. There's
Speaker 1: about four hundred and eighty six thousand people who work
Speaker 1: in that and the average salaries one hundred and five
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. Most of the salaries are upwards of one
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars. Department of Commerce one hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: one thousand, Department of Energy one hundred and forty three.
Speaker 1: Remember these are the average salaries. Department of Labor one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty one thousand, State Department one thirty two,
Speaker 1: Housing in Urban Development one hundred and thirty four thousand.
Speaker 2: That is also an interesting this department of government. What
Speaker 2: is the word department of government psfficiency chenk Wiger from
Speaker 2: the Young Turks tweeted out, I asked Elon must to
Speaker 2: put me in charge of cutting the Pentagon, and he said, well,
Speaker 2: what are your suggestions? And Chenk wrote on Twitter, I
Speaker 2: run the largest left wing network online and a Democratic
Speaker 2: leader has never asked me that question. The idea that
Speaker 2: they would take advice from a populist is disdainful to them. Now,
Speaker 2: which side seems more open and inclusive, Which side seems
Speaker 2: more welcoming, and which side tries really hard to drive
Speaker 2: you away if you disagree even with a little orthodoxy.
Speaker 2: Which side is asking for suggestions and which one is
Speaker 2: demanding compliance and obedience. It's a quite a take on that.
Speaker 1: Circling back to the trans women in capital bathrooms conversation.
Speaker 4: Yes because we wanted that.
Speaker 1: Mike Johnson announced today that transgender women are not permitted
Speaker 1: to use the bathrooms in the capital that match their
Speaker 1: gender identity. This would apply to bathrooms and house office buildings,
Speaker 1: changing rooms, locker rooms.
Speaker 2: South Carolina Congresswoman Nancy Mace was the one who brought
Speaker 2: that up in the first place.
Speaker 8: So the height of hypocrisy, the height of gas lighting.
Speaker 8: They're threatening to kill me now because I, as a woman,
Speaker 8: am standing up to protect other women from men being
Speaker 8: in our private spaces, our restrooms, bathrooms, locker rooms, changing rooms,
Speaker 8: you name it. And so now they're threatening to kill
Speaker 8: me over this. I'm being bullied online.
Speaker 3: There you go the statement.
Speaker 1: By the way, Mike Johnson's statement was made on Transgender
Speaker 1: Day of Remembrance.
Speaker 4: When was that?
Speaker 1: Was?
Speaker 4: Today?
Speaker 3: Today? Day two?
Speaker 7: Am?
Speaker 1: I realized trans people who lost their lives to anti
Speaker 1: trans violence.
Speaker 2: President Trump, President elect Trump, it's hard to say that
Speaker 2: all the time has.
Speaker 4: Chosen Matthew Whittaker.
Speaker 2: Trump has chosen Matthew Whittaker to be the ambassador to NATO.
Speaker 2: Whittaker has been around, He's been a talking head for
Speaker 2: quite a while.
Speaker 3: But I said Deputy AG.
Speaker 2: He was acting AG. Well, he was deputy AG. And
Speaker 2: then for Jeff's Sessions. No, I take that back, he
Speaker 2: was chief of staff. I think for Jeff Sessions. When
Speaker 2: Jeff Sessions was Attorney General, Jeff Sessions stepped down and
Speaker 2: that's when Matthew Whittaker stepped in for a short time.
Speaker 2: If confirmed, Matthew Whitaker leads the US mission to NATO
Speaker 2: during a period where this is going to be facing
Speaker 2: one of its toughest challenges, which is how to continue
Speaker 2: to support a Ukraine. However, we choose to support Ukraine
Speaker 2: in the ongoing war against Russia. As a reminder about
Speaker 2: twelve thirty today, we're going to be talking with military
Speaker 2: analyst Brian Suits, host of The Dark Secret Place coming
Speaker 2: up at twelve thirty about what's going on, whether that
Speaker 2: has any impact, the whole discussion of anti personnel minds,
Speaker 2: the attack EM's missile systems that are now being used
Speaker 2: by Ukraine, et cetera.
Speaker 4: By the way, giggling never good.
Speaker 9: Sorry, you're your Your prayer for Shannon had been dying
Speaker 9: in God, you don't know me, and it was definitely
Speaker 9: heightened by your sheer enjoyment of it.
Speaker 6: That made it okay for all of us to Yeah.
Speaker 4: The pastors that are like, no, it's not correct.
Speaker 6: Well, even that was great. They were like, theologically it doesn't.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I think you under the rail.
Speaker 6: I like that. That's scarier for you.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know me at all meant to be paying
Speaker 9: attention in any way. The first time it was said,
Speaker 9: it's like, oh, that's funny, Garry, but he really knows you.
Speaker 6: Wait, what.
Speaker 9: I have to leave and reathink A lot of my
Speaker 9: choices I have so many amends to make.
Speaker 6: Evidently the next.
Speaker 2: Hour we're going to be talking about the best Thanksgiving
Speaker 2: side dish. So you can always send us a talkback
Speaker 2: feature on the iHeart apes. What's your best Thanksgiving such?
Speaker 2: I love sweet potatoes.
Speaker 9: I have a great sweet potato story too, because when
Speaker 9: my wife was pregnant with our first son, it was
Speaker 9: Father's Day weekend. We were visiting the family and she
Speaker 9: had a craving of sweet potatoes and my mom had
Speaker 9: some cans one in there, and so she put it
Speaker 9: in the thing and put the marshmallows on top, even
Speaker 9: though it was like summer, And my eight year old
Speaker 9: niece was in front of my wife to make her plate,
Speaker 9: and my eight year old niece scooped off half of
Speaker 9: the marshmallows on the top of the tray and slapped
Speaker 9: them on her plate. And my wife said, hey, some
Speaker 9: of us want to eat that to you, little bitch,
Speaker 9: and stabbed her in with a fork.
Speaker 4: She was an eight year old girl was an eight
Speaker 4: month old girl.
Speaker 9: No, eight year old, eight year old. I don't know,
Speaker 9: it makes it better. It's definitely better than eight month old.
Speaker 3: Pregnant.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, she was. She was probably about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a pregnant woman.
Speaker 9: Or Natalie just in general, my wife with food in general, man,
Speaker 9: she is she gets nasty.
Speaker 2: Like really, oh yeah, you would like put your hand
Speaker 2: next to her face when she's eating.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 9: We had a very big calf guy with a ponytail
Speaker 9: come by so I could to socialize with my.
Speaker 3: Wife food in security.
Speaker 6: I don't know. I think it's uh.
Speaker 9: I used to have a joke in my stand up
Speaker 9: BacT this is so bad for Natalie, like being married
Speaker 9: to me isn't enough.
Speaker 6: But she used to.
Speaker 9: We went to Chipotle while I was on the road
Speaker 9: and she was pregnant, and I had to resist the
Speaker 9: ear to laugh because she was this is while I'm
Speaker 9: driving the car to the comedy club.
Speaker 6: This is what I hear.
Speaker 9: Look at her and just she's there with her pregnant
Speaker 9: belly and all her adorable nust and just shoveling every
Speaker 9: hoop hole.
Speaker 6: And I couldn't resist.
Speaker 9: I'm not a good enough man, And I had to go, honey, honey,
Speaker 9: nobody's going to take that from to tell him noises.
Speaker 6: She was like a dog.
Speaker 9: It was like an asm of a dog eating a
Speaker 9: She was breathing heavy because of the spice that heightened it.
Speaker 3: But so things like is it time to feed?
Speaker 6: I love him? Uh, you believe you're so really about
Speaker 6: my wife? Then you just thought it was you. I
Speaker 6: think it's all women.
Speaker 3: I really pretty and so polite. Yeah, you know, I
Speaker 3: expect this kind of behavior from men.
Speaker 2: Justin Morrison was joined as we talked all stuff parenting.
Speaker 2: We talked a lot about phones at school and whether
Speaker 2: or not kids are actually safer with phones at school.
Speaker 9: If anybody's really interested, I don't know it says about me.
Speaker 9: But because of this new legislation that Gavin Newsom's putting
Speaker 9: out saying that you know, phones are not going to
Speaker 9: be allowed in schools right, and there's more and more
Speaker 9: states that I think are doing that are already had
Speaker 9: existing legislation.
Speaker 6: So Psychology today.
Speaker 9: Doing a series on this topic, and one of the
Speaker 9: things that they talked about is that and this is
Speaker 9: what I hear from parents. I don't know if it's
Speaker 9: the same thing, is that the pushback parents have for
Speaker 9: wanting their kids to have a phone is for their safety.
Speaker 9: And what I hear, whether it's right or not, is
Speaker 9: that they are concerned that there is going to be
Speaker 9: some kind of an active shooter situation at their school
Speaker 9: and they won't be able to get in touch with
Speaker 9: their kids and to or their kids to be able
Speaker 9: to get in touch with them, and somehow that's going
Speaker 9: to change things.
Speaker 6: I don't know why.
Speaker 9: It makes me feel like I'm a bad parent, but
Speaker 9: I don't I feel like I don't need my kid
Speaker 9: to call me like I think. If that's going on,
Speaker 9: there are people there that are working through it, and
Speaker 9: that's a lot of the arguments that they have experts
Speaker 9: like police officers and principles superintendents who weighed in on this,
Speaker 9: and they've said, we've had actual situations where there was
Speaker 9: an emergency on campus and that the system gets so
Speaker 9: overloaded from parents trying to contact their kids that they
Speaker 9: can't contact their kids. There was another example that was
Speaker 9: given where I think by a principle where he said
Speaker 9: the kids were calling and when the cops arrived, there
Speaker 9: were so many parents already at the school that the
Speaker 9: cops couldn't even get to the school easily.
Speaker 6: There was just too much traffic.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think if because when you said I
Speaker 1: don't need my kids to call me, but once your
Speaker 1: kids want to call you, if they were terrified, Like
Speaker 1: wouldn't that be who they wanted to call?
Speaker 3: Or no, Yes, I don't know.
Speaker 6: I don't know why.
Speaker 9: I'm just being honest, Like, I get that, I totally
Speaker 9: get that. But the whole time I'm reading this and
Speaker 9: every time I hear this argument from parents, like like.
Speaker 1: I don't want to think of my kids terrified in
Speaker 1: a class themselves, themselves even wanting to get a hold
Speaker 1: of me, and me not being able to be there
Speaker 1: for them like in that moment. I don't know, that's
Speaker 1: really hard to think about that scenario.
Speaker 2: But we have to remember that the as high profile
Speaker 2: as school shootings are, they're very, very very rare.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, but your mind goes to worst case scenario.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I get I mean, I've done plenty of
Speaker 2: that awful mind game stuff that you do with your
Speaker 2: own kids and their safety or health or whatever. I
Speaker 2: just would assume that kids are more likely to be
Speaker 2: in a car accident on the way to or from schools.
Speaker 9: Then That's what I was going to say, is that,
Speaker 9: for whatever, I think, Shannon's point has kind of honestly
Speaker 9: blown my mind a little bit.
Speaker 6: I'm thinking because it's for such.
Speaker 9: A joking like I'm genuinely a sensitive person, But why
Speaker 9: is it that I don't I'm not. I never crossed
Speaker 9: my mind to think that my kid would be terrified.
Speaker 9: And I think it's because I'm more thinking of like
Speaker 9: the risk reward, right if they don't have their phones,
Speaker 9: and that means that they're just paying better attention in
Speaker 9: the classroom when that's what they're that's what they're there
Speaker 9: to do, right, And I don't think I even have
Speaker 9: to worry about my sons in this regard. But still,
Speaker 9: I'm like, to me, it makes sense. I'm like, fine,
Speaker 9: take the phone. He doesn't need it. People went forever
Speaker 9: in school, including all of us, never had a phone,
Speaker 9: and we're all fine.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: That's the other issue that I mean, because we've talked
Speaker 2: about this before in the context of LA Unified and
Speaker 2: their plans, you know, coming up in a couple of
Speaker 2: months where they're going to ban phones from schools. Basically,
Speaker 2: the and the and the pushback a lot of times
Speaker 2: is this issue of I would I would not allow
Speaker 2: my kid to go to school without a phone, And
Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess it just seems to me
Speaker 2: like it's naive or we're now so conditioned to having
Speaker 2: immediate contact that in those moments that we don't have it,
Speaker 2: we think automatically think the worst. We talked about it
Speaker 2: just a couple of weeks ago when we were talking
Speaker 2: about who you track, who do you follow on your phone?
Speaker 2: You know, why do you need to know your kid's
Speaker 2: location twenty four hours a day.
Speaker 4: Because we've gotten used to it, that's why.
Speaker 2: Not because it makes you any better, or make your
Speaker 2: kids safer, or make it's just that we've gotten used
Speaker 2: to it.
Speaker 9: For me, it's entirely selfish. I've tracked my wife and
Speaker 9: now my kids. But I started tracking my wife's phone
Speaker 9: when I was on the road because before she knew it,
Speaker 9: before she.
Speaker 6: Even knew my name. It's because if I.
Speaker 9: Was gone on the road and I had a time
Speaker 9: that I want to talk to when I called her,
Speaker 9: and if she didn't answer, it would genuinely help me
Speaker 9: not worry. If I looked at where she was and
Speaker 9: if I saw she was at home, could be wrong.
Speaker 9: She could have left the phone. This is just my
Speaker 9: dumb brain. But I was like, if it's at home,
Speaker 9: she's taking care of the kids, or she's out, I
Speaker 9: see she's at the grocery store, she's busy, she can't
Speaker 9: talk right now, like that kind of stuff. But people
Speaker 9: thought it was because I didn't trust her, and it
Speaker 9: wasn't that. It was because I just I just it
Speaker 9: made me feel easier to be in Texas and know
Speaker 9: what was going on. To a certain extent, Yes, and
Speaker 9: I mean I have the same I tracked my wife
Speaker 9: and my kids. I know where they are, but I
Speaker 9: don't need to all the time, and it's not something
Speaker 9: that I'm obsessed with. But I wonder if there's a
Speaker 9: if I took it off my phone, or if I
Speaker 9: dis disfollow.
Speaker 4: Unfollow.
Speaker 2: Social media, if I unfollowed them from from Find my
Speaker 2: Friends or whatever, would I then constantly think about, God,
Speaker 2: how do I find where they are?
Speaker 6: I don't think I wouldn't. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 9: I'm honestly this sounds like I'm making fun, But I
Speaker 9: think Shannon's comment is going to make me do a
Speaker 9: little bit of searching of like, what is it about
Speaker 9: me that doesn't make me first go to why what
Speaker 9: my kid's terrified?
Speaker 6: I would want them to be able to reach out
Speaker 6: to really if possible.
Speaker 9: And I really think it's that the cell phones have
Speaker 9: to be such a huge problem in the classroom for
Speaker 9: teachers and the schools just to manage.
Speaker 6: I mean think about it too.
Speaker 9: For them to go to a legislative extent on this
Speaker 9: stuff is really seems like there's got to be a
Speaker 9: lot of people complaining about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Justin Warsham has joined as we talk parenting, Tom
Speaker 2: Brady has given you a run for your money, man.
Speaker 6: He is.
Speaker 9: He's coming in hot with a lot of the parenting advice.
Speaker 9: There was this clickbait thing where he said that what
Speaker 9: he screwed up his kids, But this is another interview
Speaker 9: that he did with the editor in chief of Fortune magazine,
Speaker 9: and he said, this is a quote, think of today's world,
Speaker 9: how we screw these kids up. Every time they mess up,
Speaker 9: we send them to an easier place to succeed. And
Speaker 9: he goes on to basically talk about I think what
Speaker 9: it is is that I don't know of I can't
Speaker 9: think of a specific example where anybody that I know
Speaker 9: has looked put a kid in a situation and go,
Speaker 9: let's take them out of this and find someplace else
Speaker 9: where they can succeed.
Speaker 2: I know people who have moved out of the state
Speaker 2: so that their kid would be a starting player on
Speaker 2: a football There.
Speaker 9: Seems to be a growing trend though of like these
Speaker 9: players who are transferring to different schools just because it's
Speaker 9: a better opportunity. It always made sense to me because
Speaker 9: it's like, well, for they need to get exposure so
Speaker 9: they can hopefully get a better draft spot or even
Speaker 9: a draft spot in the NFL. But his point is
Speaker 9: is that you have to learn to overcome that adversity.
Speaker 9: And I think all of us would agree with that.
Speaker 9: I think that this growing trend of making things easier
Speaker 9: for your kids is taking away their ability to overcome
Speaker 9: struggle and difficulty. And I think that's really what he's
Speaker 9: going at, Like, if you don't make your kids push
Speaker 9: through and overcome something like even says, let me see
Speaker 9: if I can find it. He basically says that whatever's great. Oh,
Speaker 9: we've all faced different challenges in life, We've all faced
Speaker 9: our own adversities. Look at the hardest thing, that hardest
Speaker 9: things that have happened ever happened. We look back at
Speaker 9: those and realize they're the best things that could have happened.
Speaker 6: And I don't I would agree. Like usually when.
Speaker 1: Usure Tom Brady, of course, winning that many super Bowls
Speaker 1: is the best thing that has ever happened in the heardest.
Speaker 6: I don't think he's talking about that. I think he's like,
Speaker 6: he's saying that like struggling in.
Speaker 9: High school to become the starter and doing the same
Speaker 9: thing I think at Michigan. I think he's saying, overcoming
Speaker 9: all of that that's more important to him than those
Speaker 9: successes because they define his character.
Speaker 6: Am I am I putting too many words in. I mean,
Speaker 6: don't get me wrong, Shan.
Speaker 9: I think it's very easy to listen bad advice when
Speaker 9: you're Tom Brady because it all worked out.
Speaker 1: I'm not exactly. I'm not a hater of Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: I don't hate excellence. I don't hate complete dedication to
Speaker 1: being the best.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: I applaud it. But I'm not going to Tom Brady
Speaker 1: for parenting advice. If you know one thing in the NFL,
Speaker 1: he was in the NFL for how many years?
Speaker 6: Twenty three?
Speaker 3: Okay, he never saw his kids. And that's not me
Speaker 3: being rude.
Speaker 1: That's seeing how much time players and coaches spend at
Speaker 1: the facility and playing football.
Speaker 3: And at a high level, and to do it.
Speaker 1: For that, he didn't parent there was no parenting there,
Speaker 1: So like maybe that's why he's now talking about it
Speaker 1: because he actually has eyes.
Speaker 3: On his kids, and it's not a knock on him personally.
Speaker 1: It's just that schedule does not allow you to raise
Speaker 1: your kids the way you raise your kid.
Speaker 6: True.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I would not be tumb Brady because I would like,
Speaker 9: I quit being a stand up because I wanted to
Speaker 9: be home with my kids.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 2: There's this secondary issue here too that I think is
Speaker 2: that at least he may be pointing to, which is
Speaker 2: it's good to have a kid get a win every
Speaker 2: once in a while. I mean, the struggle is one thing,
Speaker 2: learning how to struggle, learning how to cope, learning how
Speaker 2: to pick yourself up and start over. Do the constant failure.
Speaker 2: Constant failure is bad. I mean, if you're not of
Speaker 2: the right mindset, you're done. It'll be hard to get
Speaker 2: win back in your sales.
Speaker 1: I have a girlfriend whose son is I believe he's thirteen, twelve, thirteen,
Speaker 1: and we have a conversation recently where he was trying
Speaker 1: out for a play and he didn't get the role
Speaker 1: that he wanted, and then something went wrong at school,
Speaker 1: and she's like, just this kid needs to have a win,
Speaker 1: like at that time of his life, you know, that
Speaker 1: that middle school time, how boys in particular can get
Speaker 1: really down on themselves when it feels like everything's against them,
Speaker 1: you know. And it was just like, I just got
Speaker 1: to figure out a way to get.
Speaker 3: This kid a win. And then he ended up having.
Speaker 1: Like a great soccer game or football I forget what
Speaker 1: sport he was playing at the time, but you know,
Speaker 1: it was just great that he had a good night,
Speaker 1: you know, and it kind of made everything go away,
Speaker 1: But that he was really down for like a week
Speaker 1: or so because it seemed like things were stacking up
Speaker 1: against him.
Speaker 6: Well, and that.
Speaker 2: Doom loop that we talked about before is really it's
Speaker 2: really easy to lean into that, especially when it comes
Speaker 2: to things like social media or whatever, where you see
Speaker 2: other people succeeding when you're not right. The other people
Speaker 2: are posting about their wins and you don't have any
Speaker 2: to post.
Speaker 4: About, and that it just you know, continues.
Speaker 2: We've talked before about the algorithm that once you start
Speaker 2: seeing that stuff, you can't not see it anymore, right,
Speaker 2: And that's kind of one of the right Shannon, because
Speaker 2: and Gary, like I'm looking back, middle school has so
Speaker 2: far has been the most difficult part of parenting. I
Speaker 2: would say it's even more difficult than when they were babies,
Speaker 2: like just with the lack of sleep, because there's there's
Speaker 2: just this different weight of emotional like there their emotion,
Speaker 2: they're learning about how to deal with their emotions, and
Speaker 2: there's just bigger stakes at what's going on in their
Speaker 2: life for them and I think even for me as
Speaker 2: their dad. And when my son was real he was
Speaker 2: he was failing a lot, like things were not going
Speaker 2: well with him. But what ended up happening was he
Speaker 2: did not get cast in the dance ensemble, and without
Speaker 2: being asked, he came home very upset, like in tears.
Speaker 2: He just said he went to the choreographer and said,
Speaker 2: can I just come to the rehearsals. I just this
Speaker 2: is to this day so far, this is one of
Speaker 2: the most proudest things my son has ever done. In
Speaker 2: my opinion.
Speaker 9: He went in there and said, I just want to
Speaker 9: be here for the practices even though I can't do it,
Speaker 9: because I want to learn. And eventually the teacher respected
Speaker 9: it and put him in the dance ensemble by the
Speaker 9: end of the year, even though he said at the
Speaker 9: beginning he's like, you're not getting.
Speaker 3: In this is it's really incredible?
Speaker 9: Right he was he was twelve years old to be
Speaker 9: that vulnerable at that age and just commit saying I
Speaker 9: just want to do this. And the reason why I
Speaker 9: think I came in here all hot, saying I think
Speaker 9: Tom Brady brings up a lot.
Speaker 6: Of good points, even the chips. Right he never talked
Speaker 6: to his kids when they were little.
Speaker 4: Is that he might need to.
Speaker 9: Maybe I projecting myself into what he's doing, because when
Speaker 9: I looked at that opportunity, even though overcoming that is
Speaker 9: a big reason why my son is as self confident
Speaker 9: as he is, and it's hard to break his self confidence.
Speaker 3: That wasn't something he overcome.
Speaker 1: He took the matter into his own hands and changed
Speaker 1: his fate in the in the matter, yes, like that's incredible.
Speaker 9: With no chance of reward, no promise of anything. Did
Speaker 9: it just blindly because he felt that's the right thing
Speaker 9: to do.
Speaker 3: That's something you would do, I think.
Speaker 9: So I don't know. I don't think I would have
Speaker 9: done it his age. I really don't think I would
Speaker 9: have done it as twelve, I was so weak. He
Speaker 9: also like he's got a character of like get a girlfriend.
Speaker 9: He gets into high school.
Speaker 6: He's a good looking dude. He's my son. Come on,
Speaker 6: he's got a comment.
Speaker 9: How could he not be The jeans are there, regardless
Speaker 9: of what his mom was bringing to the soup.
Speaker 6: Okay, but the point.
Speaker 4: Is, I swear one day we're gonna have her in here.
Speaker 6: We'd be like, no, that could never happen.
Speaker 4: Natalie comes out of the closet change.
Speaker 6: I wish I was.
Speaker 9: Different, not like when she was around. That's not that's
Speaker 9: that that's what makes me worse. But yeah, these girls
Speaker 9: that were liking him, that were older, and he just
Speaker 9: he was always into his girlfriend at the time. And
Speaker 9: I could tell you without a shadow of a doubt
Speaker 9: that if a freshman justin had a girl that was
Speaker 9: like a sophomore or junior that was firting with me,
Speaker 9: I'd be like, it's been lovely, thank you for your time.
Speaker 9: I'm just gonna go see what's going on over here
Speaker 9: for a quick sec. But there, he's a good kid.
Speaker 9: They're both good dudes.
Speaker 4: Horribly long as it could last. Sorry, it's what.
Speaker 3: Dudes, I'm a lady.
Speaker 4: Okay, tell where.
Speaker 6: God he's on fire. Stop we have to stop. He said,
Speaker 6: where with such a perfect intonation.
Speaker 4: It was so my godness.
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