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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day, Holy.

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<v Speaker 2>Crap, I don't know who the hell we think when we.

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<v Speaker 3>Are get off our show.

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<v Speaker 1>Idiots, the kids are crying or turn off.

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<v Speaker 3>Your coaches are screwing it up. Gold Plea inner.

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<v Speaker 1>Murals, Brother gol Pleay, intermurals.

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<v Speaker 2>They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's the kid here?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's the kid here?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you kidding me? Now? Here's Nick coffee?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's get it started. Happy Friday, welcome in.

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<v Speaker 2>I start this show and by the way, three hours

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<v Speaker 2>with me and then I'm out of here for a week.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's just a warning. Be advised. You will not

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<v Speaker 2>have me for a whole week. And I I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>if you haven't made arrangements, if you haven't figured out

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<v Speaker 2>how you're gonna deal with my absence, I would start

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<v Speaker 2>working on it now. And I hope you can you

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<v Speaker 2>can sense sarcasm. But anyways, it's a Friday. I'm feeling good,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm a little panic. Because I've mentioned this before

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<v Speaker 2>on the show. I use the platform that is X

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<v Speaker 2>previously known as Twitter. I still call it Twitter. I

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<v Speaker 2>think we still reference what gets put on the platform

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<v Speaker 2>as a tweet. Therefore, I just think X is just

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<v Speaker 2>it's never really it just hasn't really clicked with me.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyways, it's a really big resource and tool for

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<v Speaker 2>me when it comes to this show because I hit

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<v Speaker 2>the like button, there's a little heart there, or I

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<v Speaker 2>direct message a tweet to myself, and like that's like,

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<v Speaker 2>really how I take notes. I mean, it's super useful.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure I'm not the only person with a platform

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<v Speaker 2>like this that uses X slash Twitter to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to act like it does the show

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<v Speaker 2>for me, but really that's where like, that's where all

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<v Speaker 2>my notes are essentially, and then I just take a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of what that is and you know, run on

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<v Speaker 2>off of it. But the platform is down as we speak.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought maybe I got like banned or something. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I got I got kicked off. Maybe Elon Musk, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe he wasn't a fan. I don't know, but my

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<v Speaker 2>mind's up. It looks like it's working again. Lisa desktop version, Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it looks like we're back in business. But uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there was that and then I couldn't get my my

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<v Speaker 2>my headphones untangled, so I'm scrambling.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, all this happens before a vacation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, on a Friday, and it's I mean, it is

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful outside. It I feel like we are violating protocol

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<v Speaker 2>in some way by not being outside right now a

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<v Speaker 2>little warm, I mean it is, and you you want

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<v Speaker 2>to hear something crazy? Currently right now at three oh

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<v Speaker 2>two in Louisville, Kentucky, it is warmer, nicer than it

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<v Speaker 2>will be at any point next week when I am

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<v Speaker 2>in Florida in uh Navarre Beach. So you know, that's

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of how it works out. Not great, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm gonna at least enjoy the great weather

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<v Speaker 2>we have today while I can, because it is seventy

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<v Speaker 2>nine degrees and four Street Live is popping right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean for a for a Friday at three, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>What a couple families. I didn't look out into the

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<v Speaker 4>actual district area, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, the restaurants that have like the outdoor seating, they're

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<v Speaker 2>full and you've got people kind of hang I've never

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<v Speaker 2>seen people hanging out at the tables that and sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>the tables aren't even out, but there's some tables that

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<v Speaker 2>sit right out in front of PBR. Yeah, and people

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<v Speaker 2>are sitting out there just doing some day drinking because

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<v Speaker 2>you know why, they're pre amy for Kid Rock tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even know. You didn't really you forgot kid? Yes? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean all I can say is that four

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<v Speaker 2>Street tonight is gonna be is gonna be something. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>PBR tonight is gonna be something because you might have

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<v Speaker 2>to go. I don't know about it, man ride the

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<v Speaker 2>Electric Bull, I mean doing like a vibe check. Like

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<v Speaker 2>post kid rock concerts, people are making their way to

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<v Speaker 2>the bars. That could be something, couldn't it? Absolutely because

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's intriguing.

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<v Speaker 4>But here it's a good show. I'm not a huge

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<v Speaker 4>kid rock guy. Here it's a good show.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have any feeling at all, like I don't

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<v Speaker 2>you know with kid Rock currently with like his I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I don't. Does he make new music?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I think he's still relying on in

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<v Speaker 4>the old days. Actually, you know what, I don't hate Kate.

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<v Speaker 3>Rock in a way.

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<v Speaker 2>I will I will always have a not a soft spot.

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<v Speaker 2>But like kid Rock is when he blew up with

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<v Speaker 2>ball with the ball de bang to bang Diggy Diggy

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<v Speaker 2>when that became a thing. That was right around the

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<v Speaker 2>time when I was old enough to like buy my

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<v Speaker 2>own CDs. And one of the first CDs I bought

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<v Speaker 2>was kid Rock and his debut album, and I just

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was the coolest thing ever. I remember I'd

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<v Speaker 2>watched it on TRL. I mean I was twelve, I

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<v Speaker 2>think at the time. And I mean I'm not. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he has songs that I think will are to me.

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<v Speaker 2>They're you know, they're timeless, right, Like I guess it

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<v Speaker 2>is ball with the Ball his biggest hit. It's probably

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<v Speaker 2>not like mainstream wise, it has to be that. Or

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<v Speaker 2>he did a song with bad Yeah, a song with

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<v Speaker 2>Sheryl Crow. Sure, yeah, I mean that was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>you know whatever. But and that that led him to

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<v Speaker 2>probably entering the ears of people that typically wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>getting the kid Rock that we got when he debuted.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, his great song though his debut album, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like it had a bunch. Maybe it's just because

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<v Speaker 2>it was one of the CDs I bought and I

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<v Speaker 2>listened to it, you know NonStop.

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<v Speaker 4>Felt that way with the Baja Boys or Baja men.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, right, I remember different eras you and I I.

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<v Speaker 4>Remember getting that CD just because I like the who

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<v Speaker 4>Let the Dogs Out? And I would just play that

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<v Speaker 4>all the time. But I think it was like the

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<v Speaker 4>last it was the last track on their CD. But

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<v Speaker 4>I think with the old uh uh, the older quarter

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<v Speaker 4>that I used to have wouldn't let you skip songs,

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<v Speaker 4>so you had to listen to like the whole CD.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, it could be. It could be because it's a Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>but I feel like, you know, we have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of concerts to come to the Young Center Austin, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because you times are a part of promotions for all that.

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<v Speaker 2>But Kid Rock, and I'm sure a lot of it

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<v Speaker 2>is because of his strong political stance, but like he'll

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<v Speaker 2>bring people out in a way that most people that

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<v Speaker 2>come to the YOUM Center. Oh yeah, well he just

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<v Speaker 2>will like he's got that. You know, showed a.

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<v Speaker 4>Video of Trump last time he was here, like two

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<v Speaker 2>I bet people went insane, Yeah they did. So anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>Kid rocks in town. We'll play some kid Rock today, right,

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<v Speaker 2>we have to. It's only fitting, of course they sent

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<v Speaker 2>some kid rock. So but I just know they're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be lathered tonight. They're gonna be and when I say they,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean those in attendance, the spectators, and uh, I

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<v Speaker 2>just would love to be you know, I'll just say it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always kind of like a a It's not nice

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<v Speaker 2>to say because it's almost as if like you're I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you're making fun of people, but like it would be

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<v Speaker 2>people watching heaven, would it not. I mean, it would

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<v Speaker 2>just be it would be amazing. So again, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to kid Rock, enjoy yourself. I won't be there,

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<v Speaker 2>but uh, I'm sure that won't impact any of you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna have fun, all right. So where do we

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<v Speaker 2>start today? I mean, we've got sweet sixteen games to

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<v Speaker 2>react to from last night. The under not hitting in

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<v Speaker 2>that Duke Arizona game just gutted me. I mean, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I was down bad because everything else just looked perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it was just playing out like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the first two legs, you and I were going back

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<v Speaker 2>and forth, I mean, and it felt like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this thing is setting up to where like we can

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<v Speaker 2>put on cruise control. Not to say we're gonna win it,

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<v Speaker 2>but like we weren't sweating the first two ye because clearly, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Mean even texted you how good it was looking I

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<v Speaker 4>thought I was talking about you. Yeah, I mean, which

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<v Speaker 4>I was too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, both, you mean it both ways, right, so you

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<v Speaker 2>know anyways, and then you know the under I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>what was there five threes made in the first two

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<v Speaker 2>minutes of the Duke Arizona game like that alone. Let

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it was dead. I mean it was dead.

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<v Speaker 4>They had like ninety at halfs and.

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<v Speaker 2>Then midway through or maybe like seventy five to eighty

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<v Speaker 2>percent through the first half, there was like brief hope

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<v Speaker 2>that like, okay, if they slowed down, if they stopped

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<v Speaker 2>hitting threes, and then they score a bunch late in

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<v Speaker 2>that three at the buzzer from flag. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 2>was it was, it was cooked. And then I never

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<v Speaker 2>took the col Arkansas money line straight bed just because

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't, you know, I just didn't. But even though

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<v Speaker 2>they lost, they still covered and you know, good action,

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<v Speaker 2>no doubt we got games tonight. We'll get to trust me,

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<v Speaker 2>that'll be a huge part of today's But I just

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to start by saying for all of those well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, good for Cal. I mean, oh yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean good for Cal. I'm happy for him. I mean yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, I mean, hey, hey, worked out better

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<v Speaker 2>for everybody, right, like, hey, we're fine. I mean I

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<v Speaker 2>look good for Cal, like for all those people that

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<v Speaker 2>were just lying to themselves, like not even I can

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<v Speaker 2>just see people not even talking to anybody, just talking

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<v Speaker 2>aloud to themselves, Like yeah, I'm happy for Cal. Just

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<v Speaker 2>trying to convince yourself that it wasn't really really bothering you,

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<v Speaker 2>that the man was flourishing in the first weekend, wins

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<v Speaker 2>over Kansas, wins over Ricky p and then you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like, let's just back up, go back to

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday after he beat rick Betino, punched his ticket to

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<v Speaker 2>the second weekend. I mean you you, I mean, your

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<v Speaker 2>buttholes were tight. You knew that the pressure was on Pope,

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<v Speaker 2>which is silly because Pope can't control that. But had

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<v Speaker 2>Cal made the second weekend and you didn't, I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a breakup, it's a divorce. You know what happens

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<v Speaker 2>when those things take place. You constantly compare yourself to other,

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<v Speaker 2>to the other, right, like, you're you want to win

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<v Speaker 2>the breakup, and you won the breakup up as far

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<v Speaker 2>as having a better season.

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<v Speaker 4>But then, of.

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<v Speaker 2>Course, you know he beat you when he had one

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<v Speaker 2>win and sec play in five losses, and if he

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<v Speaker 2>would have made the Sweet sixteen and you didn't like it,

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have had anything to do with the future of

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky basketball under Mark Pope. But again Cal was there forever.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a odd exit. I wouldn't say it was

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<v Speaker 2>like super toxic, although it kind of was right. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't like the fan base they had to force

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<v Speaker 2>themselves to, you know, like him, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>them just at the end were clearly just not on board.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it had run its course. So last night to

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<v Speaker 2>see Cal go full Cal and completely implode, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I was not at all surprised. Should have expected it,

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<v Speaker 2>honestly to see the victory lapse from Kentucky fans. And look,

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<v Speaker 2>I would have done the same thing. I would have

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like it's totally normal. That's that's what I

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<v Speaker 2>alway I found myself. When it comes to the many

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<v Speaker 2>years I've had a platform to talk about the rivalry,

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<v Speaker 2>I've never understood those that try to downplay it. Right, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>because the emotional investment that we've made, it's probably not healthy.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, I'm certain it's not because I shouldn't get

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<v Speaker 2>worked up when it comes to these things as much

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<v Speaker 2>as I do. But you know, it's I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>I could change if I tried, and I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to change. But with cal like again, like you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>just like okay, have a nice life, Like he was

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<v Speaker 2>you you had a lot of success with him and

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<v Speaker 2>then it kind of fell apart. So I just think

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<v Speaker 2>it's it. We don't even know these people, right, like

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<v Speaker 2>on a personal level, Like you don't know John cal Perry,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure. So it is kind of crazy that it

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<v Speaker 2>that it, you know, can consume you the way it

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<v Speaker 2>does as far as just like everything that comes with

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<v Speaker 2>being a diehard fan of of a blue blood program.

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<v Speaker 2>But like it's a normal thing for you to want

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<v Speaker 2>cal Perry to lose. And what I've I guess been

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<v Speaker 2>annoyed by is those that play the you know, well,

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<v Speaker 2>good for him, Yeah, I'm I'm happy for him. No

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<v Speaker 2>you're not. You're not, And you were happy as hell

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<v Speaker 2>last night that he lost. Just admit it. It's okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it's normal. You should embrace it, like I think cal

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<v Speaker 2>if he wants will be remembered in a like, he'll

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<v Speaker 2>probably do the same thing. Rick did not go coach Louisville.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, once he's done at Arkansas, I guarantee

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<v Speaker 2>he'll find his way back. He'll be honored, and he'll

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<v Speaker 2>do cal things and and you'll remember the good days

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<v Speaker 2>of cal and not really think about how it ended.

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<v Speaker 2>But he went to the SEC, he went to a

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<v Speaker 2>conference opponent that you play, and there's no doubt about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember, you know, roughly a year ago, whenever it

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<v Speaker 2>all happened, right, whenever he decided to go to arct Or,

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<v Speaker 2>he found a you know, he found new life. He

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<v Speaker 2>found a new job that would pay him compared to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, close to what he made at Kentucky, a

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<v Speaker 2>good situation where he could win. And you hired Mark Pope,

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<v Speaker 2>Like everybody knew you were going to be comparing yourself

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<v Speaker 2>to him, and he was going to be comparing himself

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<v Speaker 2>to you. Like that's just I think that's a very

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<v Speaker 2>normal human like thing to do. You know, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>like you're really married. We're not talking about your ex

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<v Speaker 2>wife or your hex husband, but you know, he was

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<v Speaker 2>your coach for a long time. And when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to Kentucky basketball. You know, their fan base is passionate

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<v Speaker 2>and as insane as anybody. So I was again, I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't really thinking much about it, but to see the

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<v Speaker 2>victory laps last night was a very natural thing. And

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<v Speaker 2>don't fight it. If you wanted to take the victory lap,

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<v Speaker 2>but you didn't do it. Maybe it's a little late

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<v Speaker 2>now because you know toime has passed and now you

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<v Speaker 2>got to worry about your team playing the night. But

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<v Speaker 2>most Kentucky fans who would claim that they were unfhazed

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<v Speaker 2>in any way or they were bummed for Cal, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're liars, I really do. Now let's talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the meltdown that took place. I mean it was

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<v Speaker 2>it was Cal Like. That's that's what Cal does.

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<v Speaker 5>He.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he blew a thirteen point lead with you know,

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<v Speaker 2>four and a half minutes. I mean he was up

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<v Speaker 2>by what's seventeen early in the second half, and it

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<v Speaker 2>just came down to him getting out coached when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to x's and o's scheme, And it's such a lazy,

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<v Speaker 2>low hanging fruit thing to bring up when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to Caliperry, And what I mean is, well, he just

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<v Speaker 2>rolls the balls out. He's a recruiter, he can't coach.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of that's true, but it's not that simple. There

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<v Speaker 2>are a lot of things that come with being a

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<v Speaker 2>head coach that have nothing to do with x's and

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<v Speaker 2>o's strategizing that can make you great at this. He

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<v Speaker 2>has a lot of that, but when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, dialing things up, getting the clipboard out right,

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<v Speaker 2>that's where he lacks in a major way. And it

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<v Speaker 2>was on full display last night because you know, Cal

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<v Speaker 2>not to defend him, but like when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>getting the team even in the position last night, again

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<v Speaker 2>he has and jan now Davis started playing really, really well.

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<v Speaker 2>And look, it's always weird because I kind of pumped

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<v Speaker 2>the brakes anytime I go there because he is coaching

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<v Speaker 2>elite talent that every program wanted. But he's also you know,

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<v Speaker 2>most of them are freshmen and he I think, I

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<v Speaker 2>believe he's always been able to clearly get more out

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<v Speaker 2>of those guys than most would because one of the

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<v Speaker 2>things that he was criticized for for a good reason

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<v Speaker 2>during his time in Lexington, especially towards the end, was

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that he he would, you know, give you

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<v Speaker 2>the excuse, well, they're young. What do you expect? They're young?

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<v Speaker 2>They're young, And I think he would do it just

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<v Speaker 2>to piss you guys off talking about Kentucky Farance, I

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<v Speaker 2>really do, like I think he knew that you will

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<v Speaker 2>like but you chose to be young, you could have,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like he did it just to mess with you.

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<v Speaker 2>He trolled you towards the end. But he would always

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<v Speaker 2>say that publicly, well they're young, they're young, or he

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<v Speaker 2>would say things like, you know, we haven't practiced. But

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he coaches those like he he'll bay

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<v Speaker 2>them and defend them about being young in a press conference,

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<v Speaker 2>in an interview on his radio show, But I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think he does that internally. I think he demands a

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<v Speaker 2>lot out of those guys that at eighteen, And that's

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<v Speaker 2>why you can get too late in the season and

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<v Speaker 2>Arkansas be playing as good as they did down the stretch,

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<v Speaker 2>and they played really good last night until it fell apart.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, you know his whole I can't hide

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<v Speaker 2>you here at Kentucky, and he's probably saying the same

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<v Speaker 2>thing playing the same hits at Arkansas, I can't hide

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<v Speaker 2>you here, Like I think that's an element to where

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<v Speaker 2>he really does not treat you at all like a

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<v Speaker 2>freshman when he's coaching you, but he does you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to defend you to the media because that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's his approach. So again, he's got a gift at

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<v Speaker 2>getting young talented freshmen to I believe, being a much

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<v Speaker 2>maybe not a much better, but a lot better situation

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<v Speaker 2>in February and March than they would be had they

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<v Speaker 2>played for somebody else. Now there are exceptions. Anthony Davis

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<v Speaker 2>would have done that wherever he went, Cooper Flagg at

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<v Speaker 2>Duke would have done that, wherever would be doing this

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<v Speaker 2>wherever he went. Exceptions, But there's other guys, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like a Shay Gilders Alexander. You know, I can't credit

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<v Speaker 2>Cali Perry for Shay Gilders Alexander being an NBA MVP

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<v Speaker 2>candidate for the second straight year, because that's his ability,

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<v Speaker 2>his talent, and he's clearly got a great work ethic.

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<v Speaker 2>He came to Kentucky kind of hungry, right like, he

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't a primetime recruit compared to the vast majority of

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<v Speaker 2>the players that John Calipari brought in, but he he

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<v Speaker 2>got him ready to wear. Shay was what not. Even

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<v Speaker 2>starting at the beginning of the season, he was behind

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<v Speaker 2>Quade Green, you remember that name, And then by the

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<v Speaker 2>time you got to February, he was one of the

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<v Speaker 2>best guards in the SEC. So again, clearly he's doing

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<v Speaker 2>it with a talented player. But I just think there's

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<v Speaker 2>things that like cal is really really good at some

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<v Speaker 2>things that have nothing to do with X and o's,

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<v Speaker 2>which will always make him a relevant and a good

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<v Speaker 2>coach that will win I think a lot more games

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<v Speaker 2>than he will lose. But his blatant lack of strategic

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<v Speaker 2>x's and o stuff has been evident since he was

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<v Speaker 2>at UMass. It's just it's just clear. So sometimes he

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<v Speaker 2>can overcome that, right, sometimes he can overcome not being

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<v Speaker 2>great that the x's no is because he really just

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<v Speaker 2>he unleashes an insane amount of talent with his roster

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<v Speaker 2>every year. And if he's got him playing with confidence,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're playing at their highest level, and they're competing

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<v Speaker 2>like they you know, like they did when they went

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<v Speaker 2>to Rup, like they did whenever they played Saint John's

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<v Speaker 2>last week, those are like he can get those guys

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<v Speaker 2>to be at their best and play like absolute dogs

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<v Speaker 2>in those moments and again, I think that's a gift

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<v Speaker 2>that he has and that's a factor in him being

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<v Speaker 2>a coach. There's a lot of components to being a coach.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of different ways to do it, different styles.

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<v Speaker 2>But I still think last night was again a great

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<v Speaker 2>example of he's always lacked when it comes to just

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<v Speaker 2>strategic stuff. And you know that, I think is why

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<v Speaker 2>he has one title. I mean a Kentucky he should

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<v Speaker 2>have had more, right, and if you go back, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean all the tournament laws, so it's not all of them,

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<v Speaker 2>but a lot of the tournament losses that Cali Perry

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<v Speaker 2>had at Kentucky in the last decade, most of them

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<v Speaker 2>were to teams that you just know weren't as good

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<v Speaker 2>as Kentucky. Now that doesn't mean that you know you

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<v Speaker 2>can't lose a game, but like Yukon in the championship game,

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin Alie beat him in the championship game. Think about that,

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<v Speaker 2>like that's insane, right. Look at that team he had,

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<v Speaker 2>Julius Randall, I mean, James Young, I mean that the

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<v Speaker 2>Harrison Twins, Like that team was great. And then you

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<v Speaker 2>know Kansas State in the Sweet sixteen, Bruce Weber coaching

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<v Speaker 2>that team, by the way, like Kevin Alie, Bruce Webber.

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<v Speaker 2>They sent Cal home with an NBA roster And it's

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<v Speaker 2>because when you have that weakness of just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>strategic x's and O stuff, even bad coaches can take

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<v Speaker 2>advantage of it at times. And just to see him,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, not call a time out late last time,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it was an absolute It was a mess,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll be honest that kind of enjoyed it myself.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I didn't really have any you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't pulling for Cal in Arkansas. But there is the

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<v Speaker 2>element in the rivalry where it's like, Okay, if he

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<v Speaker 2>keeps dancing on and they somehow, you know, slip up

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<v Speaker 2>and lose, let's say they lose to Night to Tennessee,

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<v Speaker 2>that'll be bad for Kentucky fans. And I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>want that to happen because you know, I'm a lunatic.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what the rivalry does to us.

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<v Speaker 4>That would be one of their possible worst case scenarios

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<v Speaker 4>that Dately never would have thought of going into this

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<v Speaker 4>year to in my opinion, yh oh.

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<v Speaker 2>And I agree, and look tonight, these players for Kentucky

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<v Speaker 2>have no they don't care about John Calipeire. They don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know him, you know what I mean? So in

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Popel like there's no pressure in any way and

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<v Speaker 2>has not been in any way for this team that

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky has right now to perform in March because they

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<v Speaker 2>got out do Calipari Like they don't even think about him,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't know him. But the fan base it's been

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<v Speaker 2>on there like they it's been on their mind a

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<v Speaker 2>lot more than I think they would admit. So anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get to a quick break. In fact, before we

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<v Speaker 2>do that, let's go to the phone lines. We've had

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<v Speaker 2>somebody that's been waiting patiently. But when we do take

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<v Speaker 2>this call and then take a break, we'll come back

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<v Speaker 2>and get you set a lot to get to a busy,

420
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<v Speaker 2>busy day and uh, I hope you guys hang out.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's go to let's go to let's se is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go to Jay Rock? Who wants to talk Kid Rock?

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, I got a couple of things. First off Balls

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<v Speaker 5>by ninety and uh bro talking about Kid Rock's debut album. Now,

425
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<v Speaker 5>he had an album back in nineteen ninety and his

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<v Speaker 5>best song ever is called Yodling in the Valley. It's

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<v Speaker 5>about Kid Rock Joldlin in the Valley.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to check it out, Jay Rock, would we

429
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<v Speaker 2>be allowed to play it on the show?

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<v Speaker 4>You think?

431
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<v Speaker 2>Or is it too is it too graphic?

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<v Speaker 5>No player?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you Jay Rock. No Player.

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<v Speaker 4>That's all the endorsement on E.

435
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<v Speaker 2>That was kind of a badass way to end his call. Yeah,

436
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Jay Rock usually is just ahalla, but that

437
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<v Speaker 2>no Play. I mean I felt like he meant it

438
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<v Speaker 2>when he said.

439
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<v Speaker 4>Right, he's he's yes, not the first time.

440
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<v Speaker 2>Kid rocks first album was probably a rap album because

441
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<v Speaker 2>for those who don't know, like that's what he did before.

442
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like he was his image now compared to

443
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<v Speaker 2>his image like you ever seen the movie How House

444
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<v Speaker 2>Party Kid and Play? Yes, so like I'm pretty sure

445
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<v Speaker 2>he had a haircut similar to the guy who has

446
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<v Speaker 2>you know, like the oh yeah, I always get the

447
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<v Speaker 2>two guys mixed up in that movie Kid and Play.

448
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know which one's which, but yeah, Kid Rock

449
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<v Speaker 2>has he's had quite He's evolved in a major way

450
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<v Speaker 2>over the last you know, over the last twenty something year.

451
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<v Speaker 2>In fact, longer than that. I mean this was in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety. This is probably okay, this right here, it's

453
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<v Speaker 2>the most notable one, right has to be. And it's

454
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<v Speaker 2>like so sing along Kumbaya corny.

455
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<v Speaker 4>But you know but in karaoke song that in picture,

456
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<v Speaker 4>yeah yeah, American.

457
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<v Speaker 2>Badass was really really oh yeah, really good.

458
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<v Speaker 4>It's the undertaker right there, baby.

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<v Speaker 2>It's stuff all right, quick break, keep it locked right here.

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<v Speaker 2>It's coffee and Company. Feel about Thorton's on Sports Talk seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Ninety now back to Coffee and Company. Fueled by Thornton's

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<v Speaker 1>on Sports Talk seven nine day.

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<v Speaker 2>So, Kid Rock is in town the night at the

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<v Speaker 2>YOUM Center. And I mean I never claimed to be

465
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<v Speaker 2>like a Kid Rock super fan at all, because I'm not,

466
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<v Speaker 2>oh absolutely, but I said debut album, like he had

467
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<v Speaker 2>way more albums than I realized, like before he was famous.

468
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<v Speaker 2>I guess I meant, like, you know, when he became mainstream,

469
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<v Speaker 2>because it was the album in nineteen ninety eight that

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<v Speaker 2>was Devil without a cause I was ten years old.

471
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<v Speaker 2>Now I probably shouldn't have been listening to kid Rock

472
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<v Speaker 2>at that time, but like I remember when he became

473
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<v Speaker 2>like a thing. I remember, I'm looking at the cover

474
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<v Speaker 2>right now because I had this CD. I got birthday

475
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<v Speaker 2>money and I went and bought I went and bought

476
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<v Speaker 2>this CD, Devil without a Cause. And then I also

477
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<v Speaker 2>purchased Limp Biscuit they have I don't remember the name

478
00:22:42.519 --> 00:22:44.680
<v Speaker 2>of that album, yeah, but it is the one that had.

479
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<v Speaker 4>The chocolate starfish and the hit dog flavored water?

480
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<v Speaker 2>Did it off of the nookie? That's that's what that yeah.

481
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<v Speaker 2>So and then also I also there was one more

482
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<v Speaker 2>CD that I bought. Oh it was well, no never,

483
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<v Speaker 2>that was a different time. Well, I mean you said

484
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<v Speaker 2>it like the first few CDs I bought are those two?

485
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<v Speaker 2>And then I also bought Eminem's one of his out,

486
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<v Speaker 2>one of his first albums, and and those were like

487
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<v Speaker 2>I just remember, and I think a lot of people listening.

488
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<v Speaker 2>Rather if you're somebody who you know, was a lot

489
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<v Speaker 2>younger than me, and your first introduction to music was

490
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<v Speaker 2>on you know, was digital, like on the internet, not radio,

491
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<v Speaker 2>then then you know you make me feel old. But

492
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<v Speaker 2>like even if you're somebody that is a lot older

493
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<v Speaker 2>than me, like you probably remember the first record you bought,

494
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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 4>Right, I think those three right there, lip Biscuit, Kid Rock,

496
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<v Speaker 4>Eminem when we talked about like late nineties, you said

497
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<v Speaker 4>it earlier, like that's It's plastered everywhere on TRL E

498
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<v Speaker 4>entertainment magazines and stuff like that. And that's that's what

499
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<v Speaker 4>I remember with Carson Daley A TRL was watching that

500
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<v Speaker 4>all the time. It's TRL right, Oh yeah, TRL. I

501
00:23:42.920 --> 00:23:45.440
<v Speaker 4>thought I was getting mixed up. But yeah, that that

502
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<v Speaker 4>and music that did such a thing for music and

503
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<v Speaker 4>influence on us as kids. Like you said, we probably

504
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<v Speaker 4>shouldn't have been listening to that music, but the culture

505
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<v Speaker 4>that had I mean, hell, they were on like like

506
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<v Speaker 4>wrestling and stuff. That's how I got introduced a kid

507
00:23:57.799 --> 00:23:59.519
<v Speaker 4>rock with well that was a freaking undertaker.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was when the internet was a baby, right,

509
00:24:02.319 --> 00:24:10.400
<v Speaker 2>and you still had to absolutely utilize mainstream traditional television

510
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<v Speaker 2>radio like you know, Like I don't know if the

511
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<v Speaker 2>WWE Attitude era would have happened if the Internet and

512
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<v Speaker 2>social media existed at that time. No, And that's that's

513
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<v Speaker 2>a crazy thing to think about. And I'm I know,

514
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<v Speaker 2>I just did a hard right turn to wrestling there,

515
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<v Speaker 2>But I'm just thinking like in that like that was

516
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<v Speaker 2>all kind of the same time, right, Like that was

517
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<v Speaker 2>the same era, like late nineties, early two thousands, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm looking here at the track listing for that

519
00:24:35.839 --> 00:24:38.680
<v Speaker 2>Devil without a Cause album and I forgot about only

520
00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:41.319
<v Speaker 2>god knows why, Like that was deep. I remember, I remember,

521
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<v Speaker 2>you know, ten year old me thinking like, man, this

522
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<v Speaker 2>is deep, like I can relate to this, and you know,

523
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<v Speaker 2>of course not like I mean that is that is

524
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<v Speaker 2>a really funny and I mean a really funny TikTok

525
00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:56.039
<v Speaker 2>trend that I'm seeing all over TikTok whenever I'm on there,

526
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<v Speaker 2>that it's in the algorithm, probably just because I you know,

527
00:25:00.039 --> 00:25:01.559
<v Speaker 2>they got like a chip in my brain or something.

528
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<v Speaker 2>I can think of something that I want to see

529
00:25:03.960 --> 00:25:05.680
<v Speaker 2>and then I'll open up TikTok and it'll be there,

530
00:25:05.720 --> 00:25:08.039
<v Speaker 2>like it's insane. And I'm sure there was a real

531
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<v Speaker 2>reason why we had to worry about losing the app

532
00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:12.359
<v Speaker 2>because of you know, the information and what you know,

533
00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:14.839
<v Speaker 2>basically what they have. We use the app, but I'll

534
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<v Speaker 2>live with it because forget, it's entertaining. But they'll show

535
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<v Speaker 2>people will now post a picture of them as like

536
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<v Speaker 2>a child when they're like, you know, eight, nine years old,

537
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<v Speaker 2>ten years old, maybe a little bit older, maybe a

538
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<v Speaker 2>little bit younger. And the caption says, this was my anthem,

539
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<v Speaker 2>and I was obsessed with this song when I looked

540
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<v Speaker 2>like this. And if you go and like pull a

541
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<v Speaker 2>picture of me as an eight year old, I guess

542
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<v Speaker 2>I would have been in like third fourth grade, probably

543
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<v Speaker 2>going into fourth grade at the time this album came out,

544
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<v Speaker 2>and I remember, like, I mean I could sing every

545
00:25:51.599 --> 00:25:53.519
<v Speaker 2>word to these songs. I probably you know did in

546
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<v Speaker 2>my room. But like a picture of me as an

547
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<v Speaker 2>eight year old with you know, ball with the Ball

548
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<v Speaker 2>or Cowboy or Devil without a Cause, Like, just like that,

549
00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:05.799
<v Speaker 2>it's not fitting, you know what I'm saying, Like they'll be,

550
00:26:06.079 --> 00:26:10.240
<v Speaker 2>they'll be the most the most common tiktoks I'm referring

551
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<v Speaker 2>to are like girls that are awkward in like eleven

552
00:26:13.400 --> 00:26:15.599
<v Speaker 2>and there, and it's a girl song that's like or

553
00:26:15.599 --> 00:26:18.680
<v Speaker 2>a rap song that's like super provocative and like sexual,

554
00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:20.880
<v Speaker 2>and it's just like it's awkward. But like I'm sitting

555
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<v Speaker 2>here thinking, like you know what, like I eight year

556
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<v Speaker 2>old Nick was listening to things that he had no

557
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<v Speaker 2>business listening to, and you know, kind of like getting

558
00:26:28.400 --> 00:26:30.680
<v Speaker 2>lost in the music as if like I'm the target

559
00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:33.759
<v Speaker 2>audience when in no way, shape or form was I

560
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<v Speaker 2>People like kids still like get connected to music now, right,

561
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<v Speaker 2>Like I I think so I mean, like I've got

562
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<v Speaker 2>I guess I'll find out because I'm gonna be going

563
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<v Speaker 2>on spring break next only kids. Yeah, Like I've so

564
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<v Speaker 2>my daughter she's she's nine, My son is four, and he,

565
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<v Speaker 2>by the way, my son, he really loves I mean,

566
00:26:51.720 --> 00:26:53.799
<v Speaker 2>but my kids like music. But I'm just in everybody,

567
00:26:53.799 --> 00:26:55.920
<v Speaker 2>I think it'd be unnatural to not like music. But

568
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<v Speaker 2>I'm just thinking, like, how do you consume it now

569
00:26:58.359 --> 00:27:00.640
<v Speaker 2>when you're young, Like for us, it was radio, and

570
00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:03.640
<v Speaker 2>it was it was TRL, and it was like the

571
00:27:03.759 --> 00:27:06.519
<v Speaker 2>local radio stations around here. I'm sure you know, heck,

572
00:27:06.559 --> 00:27:08.119
<v Speaker 2>some of them are probably down the hall. I mean

573
00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:10.319
<v Speaker 2>as far as like they were stations that were you

574
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<v Speaker 2>know that that are still around that were like ninety

575
00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:14.720
<v Speaker 2>eight nine has been around forever. Yeah, And I remember

576
00:27:14.720 --> 00:27:17.240
<v Speaker 2>they would be like a top ten countdown and like

577
00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:19.680
<v Speaker 2>I would listen, we would listen to at night, like

578
00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:22.119
<v Speaker 2>the top ten songs. Because I mean, it's just a

579
00:27:22.240 --> 00:27:25.400
<v Speaker 2>crazy thing to think about as we sit here on

580
00:27:25.480 --> 00:27:29.359
<v Speaker 2>March twenty eighth, twenty twenty five. I grew up in

581
00:27:29.400 --> 00:27:32.119
<v Speaker 2>a world where if you didn't, if they didn't, if

582
00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:35.079
<v Speaker 2>they weren't playing it on the radio, you weren't hearing it,

583
00:27:35.559 --> 00:27:37.279
<v Speaker 2>like you know. Now you can get it at your

584
00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:40.559
<v Speaker 2>fingertips at any moment, like you know, or you could

585
00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:42.480
<v Speaker 2>buy the album, but like a lot of times, you know.

586
00:27:42.480 --> 00:27:43.960
<v Speaker 2>And that's how they were able to sell so many

587
00:27:43.960 --> 00:27:45.759
<v Speaker 2>copies because the build up, right, Like you would release

588
00:27:45.759 --> 00:27:48.000
<v Speaker 2>a single that people could only hear on the radio,

589
00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:50.000
<v Speaker 2>and you're building up to promote that you've got this

590
00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:51.960
<v Speaker 2>big album coming out, and people want to listen to

591
00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:54.279
<v Speaker 2>it and it's not and they don't want to rely

592
00:27:54.400 --> 00:27:56.119
<v Speaker 2>just on the luck of turning on the radio at

593
00:27:56.119 --> 00:27:58.519
<v Speaker 2>the right time. They'll go line up outside of a

594
00:27:58.519 --> 00:28:00.920
<v Speaker 2>store to buy it. It's just a lot of things

595
00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:05.000
<v Speaker 2>have changed in a major way with technology over the years.

596
00:28:05.559 --> 00:28:08.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the rapid growth in like a five year

597
00:28:08.920 --> 00:28:12.799
<v Speaker 2>time span is crazy. But I feel like music because

598
00:28:12.799 --> 00:28:15.680
<v Speaker 2>it's something that you know, it never goes away, right,

599
00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:18.599
<v Speaker 2>Like we have different trends, different styles. I mean, I

600
00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:21.519
<v Speaker 2>feel like now we're kind of in a genre less phase.

601
00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:26.039
<v Speaker 2>But I feel like that sped. Like the thinking about

602
00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:29.240
<v Speaker 2>how we got music ten years ago compared to how

603
00:28:29.279 --> 00:28:31.960
<v Speaker 2>we do it now is insane. I mean, the streaming

604
00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:37.240
<v Speaker 2>it's nowadays, Like who downloads albums on iTunes? Anymore. Is

605
00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:39.839
<v Speaker 2>that even a thing like that? That was like the

606
00:28:39.920 --> 00:28:41.880
<v Speaker 2>new way to get music because you didn't have to

607
00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:43.079
<v Speaker 2>go buy it at the story. You could just buy

608
00:28:43.079 --> 00:28:45.559
<v Speaker 2>the album and download it on your iTunes. Now people

609
00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:48.839
<v Speaker 2>have Spotify or they have Apple Music and you just

610
00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:50.000
<v Speaker 2>like you stream it that way.

611
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<v Speaker 4>I thought for a while iTunes was like completely done,

612
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<v Speaker 4>but I mean you could still go on iTunes like

613
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<v Speaker 4>dot com.

614
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<v Speaker 2>So so like yeah, like I'll I don't do it

615
00:28:58.599 --> 00:29:01.039
<v Speaker 2>anymore because I don't need to. But before you were

616
00:29:01.079 --> 00:29:06.240
<v Speaker 2>able to download movies from like Hulu, Netflix, right like

617
00:29:06.279 --> 00:29:08.000
<v Speaker 2>if I would fly and I couldn't rely on streaming

618
00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:09.720
<v Speaker 2>because I didn't have service like I now, I just

619
00:29:09.759 --> 00:29:11.599
<v Speaker 2>download something on Netflix and watch it when I'm on

620
00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:13.799
<v Speaker 2>the plane. But not that long ago, that wasn't a

621
00:29:13.799 --> 00:29:15.759
<v Speaker 2>feature to where I would have to go to iTunes

622
00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:18.319
<v Speaker 2>and download a buy a movie or rent a movie

623
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<v Speaker 2>and then download it. And I remember, like probably three

624
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<v Speaker 2>or four years ago, doing that and thinking to myself, man,

625
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<v Speaker 2>like iTunes, it looks it looks like I just pulled

626
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<v Speaker 2>up AOL dial up internet, you know what I mean,

627
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<v Speaker 2>Like it's just I haven't been here in a while,

628
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<v Speaker 2>and uh yeah, it's just I don't know. It's crazy

629
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<v Speaker 2>how how things evolve, and it's kind of sad, like

630
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<v Speaker 2>there's something about nostalgia that is like a drug, Like

631
00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:44.720
<v Speaker 2>it puts me in a trance of like, oh my god,

632
00:29:44.759 --> 00:29:47.039
<v Speaker 2>to go back to you know, hearing that dial up

633
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<v Speaker 2>internet sound, and I know I could easily pull it

634
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<v Speaker 2>up on YouTube. But you know, just like you don't

635
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<v Speaker 2>have a clue at the time that you will one day,

636
00:29:54.599 --> 00:29:59.119
<v Speaker 2>decades later long for just little little things, you know

637
00:29:59.160 --> 00:30:02.480
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. But you know that for some reason,

638
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<v Speaker 2>just really like stood out. Anyways, we'll move On's Coffee

639
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<v Speaker 2>and Company. We're fiel about Thorton's here on Sports Talk

640
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<v Speaker 2>seven ninety. As you could expect, we did spend some

641
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<v Speaker 2>time at the beginning of the show discussing last night

642
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<v Speaker 2>Sweet sixteen results and really no upset, right, I mean,

643
00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:22.079
<v Speaker 2>you had Florida take care of business against Maryland, really

644
00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:26.880
<v Speaker 2>pull away in the second half. Alabama was insane. I mean, Alabama,

645
00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:30.240
<v Speaker 2>when they're shooting threes like that, there's no reason to

646
00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:32.880
<v Speaker 2>play them. Give them the title. Now again, they've also

647
00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:35.480
<v Speaker 2>had many games where they don't shoot like that, But

648
00:30:35.920 --> 00:30:39.240
<v Speaker 2>it played out exactly the way not I mean I

649
00:30:39.240 --> 00:30:40.880
<v Speaker 2>didn't think they were going to make what twenty five

650
00:30:40.920 --> 00:30:43.839
<v Speaker 2>threes break a record, Like, I didn't see that coming.

651
00:30:43.920 --> 00:30:46.000
<v Speaker 2>But again, if there's a team that that you know

652
00:30:46.160 --> 00:30:48.960
<v Speaker 2>is capable of being able to do that, they're clearly

653
00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:50.960
<v Speaker 2>they're one of them, or maybe the only one, just

654
00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:54.799
<v Speaker 2>because they're built to do that. But I thought to myself,

655
00:30:54.839 --> 00:30:57.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, BYU they're hot, and they were competing early.

656
00:30:57.160 --> 00:30:59.920
<v Speaker 2>They actually got up to a really good start. BYU's

657
00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:01.359
<v Speaker 2>probably one of the hottest teams in the country as

658
00:31:01.359 --> 00:31:03.720
<v Speaker 2>far as momentum. They can score a lot of points.

659
00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:06.200
<v Speaker 2>They were averaging like eighty to a game. I like

660
00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:10.359
<v Speaker 2>their young coach. But here we have a team who

661
00:31:10.519 --> 00:31:12.759
<v Speaker 2>the way they want to play when they're at their best,

662
00:31:13.079 --> 00:31:15.240
<v Speaker 2>they just so happened to be facing a team that

663
00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:18.279
<v Speaker 2>is built to do it, but a lot better than them,

664
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:21.640
<v Speaker 2>better pieces just I mean, and that's how that game

665
00:31:21.720 --> 00:31:24.920
<v Speaker 2>ended up being. It really was, I mean, honestly, it wasn't.

666
00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:27.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it was a blowout. What was the final score?

667
00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:29.559
<v Speaker 2>I don't have it pulled up here, but they won

668
00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:32.279
<v Speaker 2>by twenty right or close to it. I feel like they.

669
00:31:32.279 --> 00:31:35.000
<v Speaker 4>Play one hundred and eleven to eighty something like that

670
00:31:35.079 --> 00:31:35.920
<v Speaker 4>or one hundred.

671
00:31:35.599 --> 00:31:40.240
<v Speaker 2>To eighty because I feel like BYU competed, like I

672
00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:42.279
<v Speaker 2>don't think that they mean, again, they're not great defensively,

673
00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:45.119
<v Speaker 2>but neither's Alabama.

674
00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:45.400
<v Speaker 4>One thirteen to eighty eight.

675
00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:46.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it was I mean it was. It's a

676
00:31:46.680 --> 00:31:49.359
<v Speaker 2>beat down, but it really came to like had they

677
00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:56.359
<v Speaker 2>made I don't know, thirteen fourteen threes instead of twenty five.

678
00:31:56.960 --> 00:32:00.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's a much different ballgame, right, but work

679
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Sis came out and hit like nine. I feel like

680
00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:04.960
<v Speaker 2>at halftime by the half, I'm exaggerating, but I mean

681
00:32:05.000 --> 00:32:07.240
<v Speaker 2>it was. It was insane and again it was a

682
00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:09.440
<v Speaker 2>record and I'm trying to pull up this stat that

683
00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:11.160
<v Speaker 2>I it's one of those things that I just see

684
00:32:11.440 --> 00:32:15.720
<v Speaker 2>appear across the timeline and I'm like, wow, that's crazy.

685
00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Let me let me favorite or like whatever you call

686
00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:20.519
<v Speaker 2>it on Twitter so I can reference this. But it

687
00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:22.799
<v Speaker 2>almost makes like sometimes there's like some of these things

688
00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:26.160
<v Speaker 2>like can't be true, right because let me see if

689
00:32:26.160 --> 00:32:28.240
<v Speaker 2>I can pull it up here, and now that I'm

690
00:32:28.279 --> 00:32:30.200
<v Speaker 2>referencing it and not able to find that it could

691
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:31.720
<v Speaker 2>be one of those things where it's been deleted because

692
00:32:31.720 --> 00:32:33.599
<v Speaker 2>somebody was able to determine that, like it wasn't true,

693
00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:38.039
<v Speaker 2>but they could have. They could have won the game tonight. Yeah,

694
00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:40.799
<v Speaker 2>here it is. And I guess this is really simple math.

695
00:32:40.839 --> 00:32:42.559
<v Speaker 2>It's not like you know, you got to really, I mean,

696
00:32:42.759 --> 00:32:44.920
<v Speaker 2>do you any fact checking, But they could have not

697
00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:47.640
<v Speaker 2>made a single two point shot and still won the game.

698
00:32:48.640 --> 00:32:49.079
<v Speaker 4>Wow.

699
00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:51.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean I haven't even looked to see if that's

700
00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:53.640
<v Speaker 2>remotely true, but I just saw it last night when

701
00:32:53.640 --> 00:32:57.200
<v Speaker 2>I was, you know, a couple of gummies in and

702
00:32:57.240 --> 00:32:59.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, wow, that's crazy, and it stood out.

703
00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:06.079
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, Alabama, that version of Bama unstoppable. But clearly,

704
00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:08.079
<v Speaker 2>you know they're not going to make twenty five threes

705
00:33:08.519 --> 00:33:11.599
<v Speaker 2>every night, but if they make like eighteen, that's really

706
00:33:11.640 --> 00:33:14.359
<v Speaker 2>not that unusual for them, and that makes any team

707
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:17.079
<v Speaker 2>tough to beat. So Bama last night, again they were

708
00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:19.480
<v Speaker 2>insanely hot. But it's kind of a reminder that they've

709
00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:22.279
<v Speaker 2>not been really the flavor of the season, right like

710
00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:24.559
<v Speaker 2>because they went to the nobody's acting like they're terrible

711
00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:26.799
<v Speaker 2>or anything like that. But they broke through last year

712
00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:29.079
<v Speaker 2>when Nadoes got to a final four. Clearly in the SEC,

713
00:33:29.559 --> 00:33:32.119
<v Speaker 2>I think there's been more attention understandably so on Auburn

714
00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:34.839
<v Speaker 2>and Florida. Obviously, Duke is in the limelight like always,

715
00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:37.000
<v Speaker 2>but now even more so because of Cooper Flag. But

716
00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:40.480
<v Speaker 2>last night Bama showed a sign that I'm thinking, Okay,

717
00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:42.480
<v Speaker 2>that's a team that, like, if they win it all,

718
00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:48.440
<v Speaker 2>can't we can't be surprised Arizona. You know, they I

719
00:33:48.440 --> 00:33:50.640
<v Speaker 2>give them credit, right, I mean, like they lost, they

720
00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:53.480
<v Speaker 2>did cover with that backdoor cover late, but I feel

721
00:33:53.480 --> 00:33:56.519
<v Speaker 2>like they competed and they were you know, they were.

722
00:33:57.000 --> 00:33:58.839
<v Speaker 2>They're just not as good as Duke. Like Duke. When

723
00:33:58.880 --> 00:34:02.200
<v Speaker 2>Cooper Flag was rolling like that, I mean like they're

724
00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:05.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna be tough to be right. I mean he's sensational obviously,

725
00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:09.159
<v Speaker 2>and just like their game against Baylor, you now have

726
00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:12.079
<v Speaker 2>the other players on the team playing really well and

727
00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:15.679
<v Speaker 2>it's not like, oh that role player. He's you know,

728
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:17.880
<v Speaker 2>he's not hurting you on defense or he's making his

729
00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:22.320
<v Speaker 2>free throws. You know, Like Cooper Flag is such a

730
00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:26.440
<v Speaker 2>high profile star that gets all the attention because he's exceptional.

731
00:34:26.480 --> 00:34:30.199
<v Speaker 2>He's very good. He's deserving of every praise that I

732
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:34.320
<v Speaker 2>hear him getting. But right or I mean, it's nobody's fault,

733
00:34:34.360 --> 00:34:35.880
<v Speaker 2>it's just how it played out. But he also has

734
00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:38.320
<v Speaker 2>dudes on his team that are really really good, like

735
00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:43.199
<v Speaker 2>Proctor obviously and con Kinipple. I mean, you hear it

736
00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:46.320
<v Speaker 2>said multiple times every game you watch Duke, and it's

737
00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:48.519
<v Speaker 2>because you can't help but say it. As an announcer,

738
00:34:48.519 --> 00:34:50.880
<v Speaker 2>I would assume that, like you want people to realize, yes,

739
00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:52.920
<v Speaker 2>this Cooper flag out maybe once in a lifetime kind

740
00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:55.519
<v Speaker 2>of talent, but like this Conk Nipple due like he's

741
00:34:55.559 --> 00:34:57.440
<v Speaker 2>also one of the best players in the country.

742
00:34:57.440 --> 00:34:57.760
<v Speaker 3>Maybe.

743
00:34:57.800 --> 00:35:04.039
<v Speaker 2>So Duke rolled Florida, rold Alabama rolled and Arkansas and

744
00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:08.679
<v Speaker 2>Caliperry melted down and everybody was seemingly happy to see it.

745
00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:13.039
<v Speaker 2>Last night was a reminder kind of just like last

746
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:17.760
<v Speaker 2>year when they lost to Oakland, that Cal is a

747
00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:19.800
<v Speaker 2>guy that when he's your guy, what are you gonna do?

748
00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:22.679
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna support your guy. But if he's not your coach,

749
00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:25.800
<v Speaker 2>you like seeing him lose. You like he's a great

750
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:29.639
<v Speaker 2>villain for college basketball. And I mean that because when

751
00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:33.000
<v Speaker 2>I saw everybody dancing on his grave last night and celebrate,

752
00:35:33.079 --> 00:35:35.239
<v Speaker 2>because it would be one thing if he just lost

753
00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:38.039
<v Speaker 2>a close game like the way he lost it give

754
00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:43.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's it kind of in the moment. It

755
00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:46.320
<v Speaker 2>actually doesn't eliminate what he did to get there by

756
00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:48.800
<v Speaker 2>beating Kansas and Saint John's, Bill self and Rick Wtino,

757
00:35:49.320 --> 00:35:53.320
<v Speaker 2>but the way he lost it definitely dampens the fact

758
00:35:53.320 --> 00:35:55.480
<v Speaker 2>that he surprised people by even getting to the Sweet sixteen,

759
00:35:55.480 --> 00:35:57.400
<v Speaker 2>does it not? Because it just reminds you of this guy.

760
00:35:57.639 --> 00:36:00.519
<v Speaker 2>He's phenomenal at building teams and recruiting. But man, if

761
00:36:00.519 --> 00:36:03.840
<v Speaker 2>you get somebody that's you know, strategizing and they've got

762
00:36:03.840 --> 00:36:06.679
<v Speaker 2>good players too, he's cooked. And that's exactly what happened.

763
00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:11.920
<v Speaker 2>But cal he can handle being the villain, he can

764
00:36:11.960 --> 00:36:17.880
<v Speaker 2>handle dealing with everybody hating him, but he doesn't do

765
00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:20.320
<v Speaker 2>well with his own fan base. Like that's what really

766
00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:23.719
<v Speaker 2>made it, I think, not to play you know, psychiatrist

767
00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:27.199
<v Speaker 2>here with Big bluination and their former coach. But whenever

768
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:30.199
<v Speaker 2>they were awful in the COVID year and won like

769
00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:32.679
<v Speaker 2>seven eight games, he basically got a million dollars per

770
00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:36.360
<v Speaker 2>game he won, and you know, there was criticism in

771
00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:40.719
<v Speaker 2>a way that he hadn't been criticized before. And then

772
00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:46.280
<v Speaker 2>he lost to Saint Peter's. He heard the fan base

773
00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:49.719
<v Speaker 2>that worshiped the ground he walked on criticized him in

774
00:36:49.719 --> 00:36:52.559
<v Speaker 2>a way that he never expected, and he never recovered

775
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:56.000
<v Speaker 2>from that, Like he never like he I mean he,

776
00:36:56.599 --> 00:37:00.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean he's all I mean that's why, Like he's

777
00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:01.719
<v Speaker 2>all about loyalty and he thinks that like he was

778
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:03.320
<v Speaker 2>betrayed by his fan base. Like let me give you

779
00:37:03.360 --> 00:37:05.800
<v Speaker 2>an example, Like Seth Greenberg and him are really close.

780
00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:09.320
<v Speaker 2>Seth Greenberg makes a fool of himself discussing Caliperry when

781
00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:11.679
<v Speaker 2>he's doing his job for ESPN. Because he's so loyal

782
00:37:11.760 --> 00:37:14.159
<v Speaker 2>to Cal, he can't criticize him, like he can't like

783
00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:16.719
<v Speaker 2>he can't be real because it's just all about loyalty.

784
00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:19.639
<v Speaker 2>It's like Italian mob stuff. I guess so Cal I

785
00:37:19.679 --> 00:37:24.559
<v Speaker 2>think does have tough skin when it comes to everybody

786
00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:29.239
<v Speaker 2>else outside of his own because Dan Hurley, he's the

787
00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:32.679
<v Speaker 2>new villain, right, he's soft as can be. He plays victim.

788
00:37:32.760 --> 00:37:36.480
<v Speaker 2>H what's everybody acting like I'm a lunatic? Cal Like

789
00:37:36.559 --> 00:37:39.239
<v Speaker 2>that's why he like that's why he doesn't have buddies

790
00:37:39.239 --> 00:37:41.800
<v Speaker 2>in the media, Like he's not chummy with I mean,

791
00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:44.800
<v Speaker 2>him and Goodman hate each other, right, like Pat forty

792
00:37:44.920 --> 00:37:47.960
<v Speaker 2>they hate each other. It's a personal thing. Like Cal's

793
00:37:47.960 --> 00:37:50.920
<v Speaker 2>probably got a dartboard with their face on it. That's

794
00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:55.480
<v Speaker 2>just how he's built. So last night to see everybody

795
00:37:55.719 --> 00:37:59.280
<v Speaker 2>enjoying seeing the villain go down, it actually, you know,

796
00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:01.800
<v Speaker 2>I thought to myself, I got respect for Cal because

797
00:38:01.840 --> 00:38:04.800
<v Speaker 2>like he's done. He's been that guy since he was

798
00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:07.960
<v Speaker 2>at UMass and he's comfortable in it. But where it

799
00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:10.480
<v Speaker 2>got weird and where he was called, you know, soft,

800
00:38:10.519 --> 00:38:12.400
<v Speaker 2>and you know he cares too much about people think

801
00:38:12.639 --> 00:38:14.920
<v Speaker 2>he won't like if he knows like fans are wanting

802
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:17.960
<v Speaker 2>him to do something, he won't do it intentionally. And

803
00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:20.400
<v Speaker 2>it's because one he's stubborn, but also like he felt

804
00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:23.400
<v Speaker 2>betrayed by them, and it started just playing like him

805
00:38:23.400 --> 00:38:26.920
<v Speaker 2>not playing Reeves Shepherd and dealing him together last year.

806
00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:29.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's not something that people I think are

807
00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:31.480
<v Speaker 2>going to remember for the rest of their lives, but

808
00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:34.199
<v Speaker 2>like it's insane. It was quite literally just stubbornness because

809
00:38:34.199 --> 00:38:36.239
<v Speaker 2>he knew that that's what everybody else thought he should do,

810
00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:38.559
<v Speaker 2>and he wanted to do different to and he wanted

811
00:38:38.559 --> 00:38:40.599
<v Speaker 2>to be able to win games. He's arrogant enough to

812
00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:43.039
<v Speaker 2>think he could win without playing those guys together and

813
00:38:43.079 --> 00:38:46.039
<v Speaker 2>be able to say, look, I told you so, all right,

814
00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:47.800
<v Speaker 2>quick break will come back. A lot more to get into,

815
00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:50.800
<v Speaker 2>including Louisville has one of the top transfers in the

816
00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:54.400
<v Speaker 2>portal visiting as we speak, Kentucky's already landed a commitment

817
00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:56.880
<v Speaker 2>in the portal. So I think there's a trend that

818
00:38:56.920 --> 00:38:58.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm noticing here early on in the portal. And I'll

819
00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:01.199
<v Speaker 2>talk about that next right here on SPORTSCOK seven ninety now.

820
00:39:01.039 --> 00:39:05.159
<v Speaker 1>Back to coffee and company fueled by Thornton's on Sports

821
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<v Speaker 1>Talk seven nine day.

822
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<v Speaker 2>So we haven't talked about it yet, but I promise

823
00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:13.039
<v Speaker 2>we'll get to it in the four o'clock hour. Kevin

824
00:39:13.079 --> 00:39:18.440
<v Speaker 2>Willard last night one of the more unusual things you'll

825
00:39:18.440 --> 00:39:23.119
<v Speaker 2>see in college sports. And when I was watching Maryland

826
00:39:23.199 --> 00:39:26.159
<v Speaker 2>get off to a good start, now they got they

827
00:39:26.199 --> 00:39:27.800
<v Speaker 2>got to be pretty bad in the end, just because

828
00:39:27.840 --> 00:39:32.519
<v Speaker 2>Florida' is that good. But something hit me that I

829
00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:34.840
<v Speaker 2>think is a really obvious thing. But we're just not

830
00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:36.800
<v Speaker 2>used to noticing it, if that makes sense. So maybe

831
00:39:36.840 --> 00:39:38.119
<v Speaker 2>it's not that obvious, but we'll get to that in

832
00:39:38.159 --> 00:39:40.360
<v Speaker 2>the four o'clock hour, because I don't think it was

833
00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:43.239
<v Speaker 2>that surprising that they were able to have this distraction

834
00:39:43.519 --> 00:39:46.199
<v Speaker 2>going on for really weeks and yet it not make

835
00:39:46.239 --> 00:39:49.159
<v Speaker 2>a difference at all. I mean, they they were still

836
00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:51.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean you would never know about watching Maryland that

837
00:39:51.800 --> 00:39:54.039
<v Speaker 2>they had that going on with their coach behind the scenes.

838
00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:56.119
<v Speaker 2>But anyways, we'll get at that later real quick to

839
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<v Speaker 2>some updates when it comes to the transfer portal. So

840
00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:03.760
<v Speaker 2>Louis as we speak, I mean, maybe he's left, maybe

841
00:40:03.800 --> 00:40:06.960
<v Speaker 2>he's on his way. I don't know. But a visitor

842
00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:10.440
<v Speaker 2>today for the Cards is one of the top transfers

843
00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:13.000
<v Speaker 2>in the portal, and that is a six to five

844
00:40:13.039 --> 00:40:17.719
<v Speaker 2>guard from Kennesaws State named Adrian Wooley. He averaged eighteen

845
00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:20.960
<v Speaker 2>point eight points per game, shooting fifty one point two

846
00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:23.679
<v Speaker 2>percent from the field forty two point two percent from three.

847
00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:26.119
<v Speaker 2>He was again we're talking about a six five guard

848
00:40:26.239 --> 00:40:29.800
<v Speaker 2>conference USA Rookie of the Year. He is he is,

849
00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:33.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean he's I didn't know, is this new. I

850
00:40:33.119 --> 00:40:35.159
<v Speaker 2>don't know if you've seen this before, but I guess

851
00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:36.760
<v Speaker 2>this isn't I guess this is not new. I just

852
00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:38.719
<v Speaker 2>haven't noticed it as much. But like they give you

853
00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:40.639
<v Speaker 2>a noose, like in the portal, you can be a

854
00:40:40.719 --> 00:40:43.719
<v Speaker 2>portal three and four or five star. Probably no, you

855
00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:45.960
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, Like, you can go to twenty

856
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:48.639
<v Speaker 2>four to seven Sports and look at you know, this

857
00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:51.119
<v Speaker 2>young man coming out of high school, Adrian Wooley. He

858
00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:54.880
<v Speaker 2>is from Cottondale, Alabama. In high school, he was a

859
00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:58.320
<v Speaker 2>three star recruit, ranked as the three hundred and eighth guy.

860
00:40:58.480 --> 00:41:02.199
<v Speaker 2>But now in the portal he's a five star. So

861
00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:05.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, that doesn't really mean a whole lot to me,

862
00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:07.760
<v Speaker 2>but whatever, you know, regardless of how you want to

863
00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:09.360
<v Speaker 2>look at it, he's a guy that a lot of

864
00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:13.000
<v Speaker 2>schools want and Louisville is hosting him. So maybe this

865
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<v Speaker 2>could be because I think this stuff's gonna play out

866
00:41:14.679 --> 00:41:18.199
<v Speaker 2>pretty quick. I really do. Like I think you get

867
00:41:18.199 --> 00:41:21.079
<v Speaker 2>an early visit, you have a good sales pitch, and

868
00:41:21.960 --> 00:41:25.280
<v Speaker 2>your money is where they want it. Meeting the players,

869
00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:27.440
<v Speaker 2>then I think commitment. In fact, in the last twenty

870
00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:29.159
<v Speaker 2>four hours there have been some commitments that rolled in.

871
00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:31.760
<v Speaker 2>So we'll talk a little more about Woolley a little

872
00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:36.159
<v Speaker 2>later on. But again, six or five combo guard really

873
00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:38.559
<v Speaker 2>good score. I mean kennessas State. I don't think they

874
00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:44.480
<v Speaker 2>were very good last year, but wasn't because of this guy.

875
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:47.639
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky's already by the Way landed a commitment in the

876
00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:51.320
<v Speaker 2>portal Tulane. I can't think of the young man's name

877
00:41:51.360 --> 00:41:52.920
<v Speaker 2>he pulled up here. I'd not heard of him. But

878
00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:54.719
<v Speaker 2>again that doesn't mean he was. Mean, there's a lot

879
00:41:54.719 --> 00:41:56.280
<v Speaker 2>of players that hit the portal that you get super

880
00:41:56.280 --> 00:41:59.519
<v Speaker 2>excited about, but a week before you know they commit,

881
00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:01.639
<v Speaker 2>you'd never heard of them. Because it's just I mean,

882
00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:04.559
<v Speaker 2>that is one of the things that I'm curious if

883
00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:07.360
<v Speaker 2>that'll change over time, meaning because this is gonna be

884
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:09.599
<v Speaker 2>how teams really reload. I mean, you're not gonna build

885
00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:12.400
<v Speaker 2>rosters from scratch like Louisville and Kentucky did this past year.

886
00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:15.519
<v Speaker 2>But when it comes to like, the most important thing

887
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:17.280
<v Speaker 2>in the off season for you is gonna be what

888
00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:18.760
<v Speaker 2>you do in the portal. I mean, no matter who

889
00:42:18.800 --> 00:42:20.639
<v Speaker 2>you are, that is going to be the most important

890
00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:23.199
<v Speaker 2>component to going from one season to the other is

891
00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:26.480
<v Speaker 2>how you handle the portal. And with that, over time,

892
00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:30.639
<v Speaker 2>will people keep up with the lower level because that's

893
00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:32.239
<v Speaker 2>gonna be the minor leagues now. I mean it just

894
00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:35.119
<v Speaker 2>is right like you're gonna watch, like when you play

895
00:42:35.199 --> 00:42:38.719
<v Speaker 2>one of these teams. If Kennesaw State was here in

896
00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:42.480
<v Speaker 2>November playing Louisville and this young man put up thirty

897
00:42:42.519 --> 00:42:44.760
<v Speaker 2>on us. You remember that, and you're gonna think to yourself,

898
00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:46.880
<v Speaker 2>that guy's probably gonna hit the portal, because nowadays it's

899
00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:50.519
<v Speaker 2>more of a surprise if somebody like this stays at

900
00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:55.519
<v Speaker 2>those schools, because again, if they do stay and pass

901
00:42:55.599 --> 00:42:57.800
<v Speaker 2>up on the chance to hit the portal, go make

902
00:42:57.840 --> 00:42:59.719
<v Speaker 2>a ton of money and play at a higher level,

903
00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:02.440
<v Speaker 2>all that is is just a gift to that school.

904
00:43:02.599 --> 00:43:04.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just doing them a favor and that

905
00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:07.920
<v Speaker 2>let's I checked. Like, you know, most people don't do that, right.

906
00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:11.960
<v Speaker 2>So again, the transfer for Kentucky is a young man

907
00:43:12.119 --> 00:43:14.920
<v Speaker 2>named Cam Williams. So he's a six to eight shooter

908
00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:18.599
<v Speaker 2>and uh average, I think just about double figures last

909
00:43:18.639 --> 00:43:21.079
<v Speaker 2>year at TWU lane. Yeah, nine point three points four

910
00:43:21.159 --> 00:43:24.360
<v Speaker 2>point five rebounds. So two things about both these guys,

911
00:43:25.320 --> 00:43:27.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what their offers were coming out of

912
00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:29.400
<v Speaker 2>high school. I can look into it, and I'm going

913
00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:33.360
<v Speaker 2>to because I'm curious. But these guys like they might

914
00:43:33.400 --> 00:43:37.360
<v Speaker 2>have been legitimately good freshmen, and you know, as far

915
00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:38.840
<v Speaker 2>as they work at freshmen, I mean they might have

916
00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:40.960
<v Speaker 2>been Let's go. What I mean is like as recruits,

917
00:43:41.079 --> 00:43:42.920
<v Speaker 2>like they might have had some options coming out of

918
00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:45.000
<v Speaker 2>high school, but they chose to go to Tulane or

919
00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:49.159
<v Speaker 2>Kinnessas State because like they knew that they would play

920
00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:53.280
<v Speaker 2>right away. And now here they are getting rerecruited. And

921
00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:55.519
<v Speaker 2>this kid who picked Kentucky, I mean, he's going to Kentucky.

922
00:43:55.519 --> 00:43:58.440
<v Speaker 2>For crying out loud, that's a pretty big time program probably,

923
00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:00.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, as they say, one of those dreams for him.

924
00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:03.280
<v Speaker 2>But after a year at Tulane, he hits the portal,

925
00:44:03.400 --> 00:44:05.519
<v Speaker 2>he's here and he's going to Kentucky. But Florida was

926
00:44:05.559 --> 00:44:11.599
<v Speaker 2>calling Louisville, Texas, Baylor, LSU, Texas Tech, Arkansas USC. So

927
00:44:11.639 --> 00:44:13.840
<v Speaker 2>if you're a high school kid and you're like a

928
00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:16.239
<v Speaker 2>three star, I mean, you never know how it's going

929
00:44:16.280 --> 00:44:17.559
<v Speaker 2>to play out for you. But if you really do

930
00:44:17.599 --> 00:44:21.639
<v Speaker 2>believe in yourself and you want to play and you

931
00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:25.800
<v Speaker 2>value you know, a role, an opportunity, I just think

932
00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:27.719
<v Speaker 2>this is going to be the new path for those guys, unless,

933
00:44:27.719 --> 00:44:30.079
<v Speaker 2>of course, you know you are a top ten overall player,

934
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:33.159
<v Speaker 2>top twenty, because that's different. All right, quick break, we'll

935
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<v Speaker 2>come back. Two more hours left. Stick around. It's coffee

936
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<v Speaker 2>and company. We are fuel about Thornton's right here in

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<v Speaker 2>Sports Talk seven ninety