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Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? Now? Here's Nick coffee?
Speaker 2: All right, let's get it started. Happy Friday, welcome in.
Speaker 2: I start this show and by the way, three hours
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Speaker 2: if you haven't made arrangements, if you haven't figured out
Speaker 2: how you're gonna deal with my absence, I would start
Speaker 2: working on it now. And I hope you can you
Speaker 2: can sense sarcasm. But anyways, it's a Friday. I'm feeling good,
Speaker 2: but I'm a little panic. Because I've mentioned this before
Speaker 2: on the show. I use the platform that is X
Speaker 2: previously known as Twitter. I still call it Twitter. I
Speaker 2: think we still reference what gets put on the platform
Speaker 2: as a tweet. Therefore, I just think X is just
Speaker 2: it's never really it just hasn't really clicked with me.
Speaker 2: But anyways, it's a really big resource and tool for
Speaker 2: me when it comes to this show because I hit
Speaker 2: the like button, there's a little heart there, or I
Speaker 2: direct message a tweet to myself, and like that's like,
Speaker 2: really how I take notes. I mean, it's super useful.
Speaker 2: I'm sure I'm not the only person with a platform
Speaker 2: like this that uses X slash Twitter to you know,
Speaker 2: I don't want to act like it does the show
Speaker 2: for me, but really that's where like, that's where all
Speaker 2: my notes are essentially, and then I just take a
Speaker 2: lot of what that is and you know, run on
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Speaker 2: I thought maybe I got like banned or something. Maybe
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Speaker 2: maybe he wasn't a fan. I don't know, but my
Speaker 2: mind's up. It looks like it's working again. Lisa desktop version, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: it looks like we're back in business. But uh yeah,
Speaker 2: there was that and then I couldn't get my my
Speaker 2: my headphones untangled, so I'm scrambling.
Speaker 4: Of course, all this happens before a vacation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, on a Friday, and it's I mean, it is
Speaker 2: beautiful outside. It I feel like we are violating protocol
Speaker 2: in some way by not being outside right now a
Speaker 2: little warm, I mean it is, and you you want
Speaker 2: to hear something crazy? Currently right now at three oh
Speaker 2: two in Louisville, Kentucky, it is warmer, nicer than it
Speaker 2: will be at any point next week when I am
Speaker 2: in Florida in uh Navarre Beach. So you know, that's
Speaker 2: just kind of how it works out. Not great, but
Speaker 2: you know, I'm gonna at least enjoy the great weather
Speaker 2: we have today while I can, because it is seventy
Speaker 2: nine degrees and four Street Live is popping right now.
Speaker 2: I mean for a for a Friday at three, you know.
Speaker 4: What a couple families. I didn't look out into the
Speaker 4: actual district area, but.
Speaker 2: Oh, the restaurants that have like the outdoor seating, they're
Speaker 2: full and you've got people kind of hang I've never
Speaker 2: seen people hanging out at the tables that and sometimes
Speaker 2: the tables aren't even out, but there's some tables that
Speaker 2: sit right out in front of PBR. Yeah, and people
Speaker 2: are sitting out there just doing some day drinking because
Speaker 2: you know why, they're pre amy for Kid Rock tonight.
Speaker 2: I didn't even know. You didn't really you forgot kid? Yes? Yeah,
Speaker 2: So I mean all I can say is that four
Speaker 2: Street tonight is gonna be is gonna be something. I mean,
Speaker 2: PBR tonight is gonna be something because you might have
Speaker 2: to go. I don't know about it, man ride the
Speaker 2: Electric Bull, I mean doing like a vibe check. Like
Speaker 2: post kid rock concerts, people are making their way to
Speaker 2: the bars. That could be something, couldn't it? Absolutely because
Speaker 2: it's it's intriguing.
Speaker 4: But here it's a good show. I'm not a huge
Speaker 4: kid rock guy. Here it's a good show.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't have any feeling at all, like I don't
Speaker 2: you know with kid Rock currently with like his I
Speaker 2: mean I don't. Does he make new music?
Speaker 4: I don't know. I think he's still relying on in
Speaker 4: the old days. Actually, you know what, I don't hate Kate.
Speaker 3: Rock in a way.
Speaker 2: I will I will always have a not a soft spot.
Speaker 2: But like kid Rock is when he blew up with
Speaker 2: ball with the ball de bang to bang Diggy Diggy
Speaker 2: when that became a thing. That was right around the
Speaker 2: time when I was old enough to like buy my
Speaker 2: own CDs. And one of the first CDs I bought
Speaker 2: was kid Rock and his debut album, and I just
Speaker 2: thought it was the coolest thing ever. I remember I'd
Speaker 2: watched it on TRL. I mean I was twelve, I
Speaker 2: think at the time. And I mean I'm not. I mean,
Speaker 2: he has songs that I think will are to me.
Speaker 2: They're you know, they're timeless, right, Like I guess it
Speaker 2: is ball with the Ball his biggest hit. It's probably
Speaker 2: not like mainstream wise, it has to be that. Or
Speaker 2: he did a song with bad Yeah, a song with
Speaker 2: Sheryl Crow. Sure, yeah, I mean that was kind of
Speaker 2: you know whatever. But and that that led him to
Speaker 2: probably entering the ears of people that typically wouldn't be
Speaker 2: getting the kid Rock that we got when he debuted.
Speaker 2: But yeah, his great song though his debut album, I
Speaker 2: feel like it had a bunch. Maybe it's just because
Speaker 2: it was one of the CDs I bought and I
Speaker 2: listened to it, you know NonStop.
Speaker 4: Felt that way with the Baja Boys or Baja men.
Speaker 2: Really, right, I remember different eras you and I I.
Speaker 4: Remember getting that CD just because I like the who
Speaker 4: Let the Dogs Out? And I would just play that
Speaker 4: all the time. But I think it was like the
Speaker 4: last it was the last track on their CD. But
Speaker 4: I think with the old uh uh, the older quarter
Speaker 4: that I used to have wouldn't let you skip songs,
Speaker 4: so you had to listen to like the whole CD.
Speaker 2: Look, it could be. It could be because it's a Friday,
Speaker 2: but I feel like, you know, we have a lot
Speaker 2: of concerts to come to the Young Center Austin, you know,
Speaker 2: because you times are a part of promotions for all that.
Speaker 2: But Kid Rock, and I'm sure a lot of it
Speaker 2: is because of his strong political stance, but like he'll
Speaker 2: bring people out in a way that most people that
Speaker 2: come to the YOUM Center. Oh yeah, well he just
Speaker 2: will like he's got that. You know, showed a.
Speaker 4: Video of Trump last time he was here, like two
Speaker 4: years ago.
Speaker 2: I bet people went insane, Yeah they did. So anyways,
Speaker 2: Kid rocks in town. We'll play some kid Rock today, right,
Speaker 2: we have to. It's only fitting, of course they sent
Speaker 2: some kid rock. So but I just know they're gonna
Speaker 2: be lathered tonight. They're gonna be and when I say they,
Speaker 2: I mean those in attendance, the spectators, and uh, I
Speaker 2: just would love to be you know, I'll just say it.
Speaker 2: It's always kind of like a a It's not nice
Speaker 2: to say because it's almost as if like you're I mean,
Speaker 2: you're making fun of people, but like it would be
Speaker 2: people watching heaven, would it not. I mean, it would
Speaker 2: just be it would be amazing. So again, if you're
Speaker 2: going to kid Rock, enjoy yourself. I won't be there,
Speaker 2: but uh, I'm sure that won't impact any of you guys.
Speaker 2: You're gonna have fun, all right. So where do we
Speaker 2: start today? I mean, we've got sweet sixteen games to
Speaker 2: react to from last night. The under not hitting in
Speaker 2: that Duke Arizona game just gutted me. I mean, man,
Speaker 2: I was down bad because everything else just looked perfect.
Speaker 2: I mean it was just playing out like, I mean,
Speaker 2: the first two legs, you and I were going back
Speaker 2: and forth, I mean, and it felt like, I mean,
Speaker 2: this thing is setting up to where like we can
Speaker 2: put on cruise control. Not to say we're gonna win it,
Speaker 2: but like we weren't sweating the first two ye because clearly, I.
Speaker 4: Mean even texted you how good it was looking I
Speaker 4: thought I was talking about you. Yeah, I mean, which
Speaker 4: I was too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, both, you mean it both ways, right, so you
Speaker 2: know anyways, and then you know the under I mean,
Speaker 2: what was there five threes made in the first two
Speaker 2: minutes of the Duke Arizona game like that alone. Let
Speaker 2: you know, it was dead. I mean it was dead.
Speaker 4: They had like ninety at halfs and.
Speaker 2: Then midway through or maybe like seventy five to eighty
Speaker 2: percent through the first half, there was like brief hope
Speaker 2: that like, okay, if they slowed down, if they stopped
Speaker 2: hitting threes, and then they score a bunch late in
Speaker 2: that three at the buzzer from flag. I mean, it
Speaker 2: was it was, it was cooked. And then I never
Speaker 2: took the col Arkansas money line straight bed just because
Speaker 2: I didn't, you know, I just didn't. But even though
Speaker 2: they lost, they still covered and you know, good action,
Speaker 2: no doubt we got games tonight. We'll get to trust me,
Speaker 2: that'll be a huge part of today's But I just
Speaker 2: wanted to start by saying for all of those well,
Speaker 2: you know, good for Cal. I mean, oh yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean good for Cal. I'm happy for him. I mean yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I mean, hey, hey, worked out better
Speaker 2: for everybody, right, like, hey, we're fine. I mean I
Speaker 2: look good for Cal, like for all those people that
Speaker 2: were just lying to themselves, like not even I can
Speaker 2: just see people not even talking to anybody, just talking
Speaker 2: aloud to themselves, Like yeah, I'm happy for Cal. Just
Speaker 2: trying to convince yourself that it wasn't really really bothering you,
Speaker 2: that the man was flourishing in the first weekend, wins
Speaker 2: over Kansas, wins over Ricky p and then you know,
Speaker 2: I mean, like, let's just back up, go back to
Speaker 2: Sunday after he beat rick Betino, punched his ticket to
Speaker 2: the second weekend. I mean you you, I mean, your
Speaker 2: buttholes were tight. You knew that the pressure was on Pope,
Speaker 2: which is silly because Pope can't control that. But had
Speaker 2: Cal made the second weekend and you didn't, I mean, look,
Speaker 2: it's a breakup, it's a divorce. You know what happens
Speaker 2: when those things take place. You constantly compare yourself to other,
Speaker 2: to the other, right, like, you're you want to win
Speaker 2: the breakup, and you won the breakup up as far
Speaker 2: as having a better season.
Speaker 4: But then, of.
Speaker 2: Course, you know he beat you when he had one
Speaker 2: win and sec play in five losses, and if he
Speaker 2: would have made the Sweet sixteen and you didn't like it,
Speaker 2: wouldn't have had anything to do with the future of
Speaker 2: Kentucky basketball under Mark Pope. But again Cal was there forever.
Speaker 2: It was a odd exit. I wouldn't say it was
Speaker 2: like super toxic, although it kind of was right. I mean,
Speaker 2: he didn't like the fan base they had to force
Speaker 2: themselves to, you know, like him, and a lot of
Speaker 2: them just at the end were clearly just not on board.
Speaker 2: Like it had run its course. So last night to
Speaker 2: see Cal go full Cal and completely implode, I mean
Speaker 2: I was not at all surprised. Should have expected it,
Speaker 2: honestly to see the victory lapse from Kentucky fans. And look,
Speaker 2: I would have done the same thing. I would have
Speaker 2: I mean, like it's totally normal. That's that's what I
Speaker 2: alway I found myself. When it comes to the many
Speaker 2: years I've had a platform to talk about the rivalry,
Speaker 2: I've never understood those that try to downplay it. Right, Like,
Speaker 2: what makes us crazy about our programs around here is
Speaker 2: because the emotional investment that we've made, it's probably not healthy.
Speaker 2: In fact, I'm certain it's not because I shouldn't get
Speaker 2: worked up when it comes to these things as much
Speaker 2: as I do. But you know, it's I don't think
Speaker 2: I could change if I tried, and I don't want
Speaker 2: to change. But with cal like again, like you didn't
Speaker 2: just like okay, have a nice life, Like he was
Speaker 2: your guy for a long time and you you know
Speaker 2: you you had a lot of success with him and
Speaker 2: then it kind of fell apart. So I just think
Speaker 2: it's it. We don't even know these people, right, like
Speaker 2: on a personal level, Like you don't know John cal Perry,
Speaker 2: I'm sure. So it is kind of crazy that it
Speaker 2: that it, you know, can consume you the way it
Speaker 2: does as far as just like everything that comes with
Speaker 2: being a diehard fan of of a blue blood program.
Speaker 2: But like it's a normal thing for you to want
Speaker 2: cal Perry to lose. And what I've I guess been
Speaker 2: annoyed by is those that play the you know, well,
Speaker 2: good for him, Yeah, I'm I'm happy for him. No
Speaker 2: you're not. You're not, And you were happy as hell
Speaker 2: last night that he lost. Just admit it. It's okay,
Speaker 2: it's normal. You should embrace it, like I think cal
Speaker 2: if he wants will be remembered in a like, he'll
Speaker 2: probably do the same thing. Rick did not go coach Louisville.
Speaker 2: But I mean, once he's done at Arkansas, I guarantee
Speaker 2: he'll find his way back. He'll be honored, and he'll
Speaker 2: do cal things and and you'll remember the good days
Speaker 2: of cal and not really think about how it ended.
Speaker 2: But he went to the SEC, he went to a
Speaker 2: conference opponent that you play, and there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 2: I remember, you know, roughly a year ago, whenever it
Speaker 2: all happened, right, whenever he decided to go to arct Or,
Speaker 2: he found a you know, he found new life. He
Speaker 2: found a new job that would pay him compared to,
Speaker 2: you know, close to what he made at Kentucky, a
Speaker 2: good situation where he could win. And you hired Mark Pope,
Speaker 2: Like everybody knew you were going to be comparing yourself
Speaker 2: to him, and he was going to be comparing himself
Speaker 2: to you. Like that's just I think that's a very
Speaker 2: normal human like thing to do. You know, it's not
Speaker 2: like you're really married. We're not talking about your ex
Speaker 2: wife or your hex husband, but you know, he was
Speaker 2: your coach for a long time. And when it comes
Speaker 2: to Kentucky basketball. You know, their fan base is passionate
Speaker 2: and as insane as anybody. So I was again, I
Speaker 2: wasn't really thinking much about it, but to see the
Speaker 2: victory laps last night was a very natural thing. And
Speaker 2: don't fight it. If you wanted to take the victory lap,
Speaker 2: but you didn't do it. Maybe it's a little late
Speaker 2: now because you know toime has passed and now you
Speaker 2: got to worry about your team playing the night. But
Speaker 2: most Kentucky fans who would claim that they were unfhazed
Speaker 2: in any way or they were bummed for Cal, like,
Speaker 2: I think you're liars, I really do. Now let's talk
Speaker 2: about the meltdown that took place. I mean it was
Speaker 2: it was Cal Like. That's that's what Cal does.
Speaker 5: He.
Speaker 2: I mean, he blew a thirteen point lead with you know,
Speaker 2: four and a half minutes. I mean he was up
Speaker 2: by what's seventeen early in the second half, and it
Speaker 2: just came down to him getting out coached when it
Speaker 2: comes to x's and o's scheme, And it's such a lazy,
Speaker 2: low hanging fruit thing to bring up when it comes
Speaker 2: to Caliperry, And what I mean is, well, he just
Speaker 2: rolls the balls out. He's a recruiter, he can't coach.
Speaker 2: Some of that's true, but it's not that simple. There
Speaker 2: are a lot of things that come with being a
Speaker 2: head coach that have nothing to do with x's and
Speaker 2: o's strategizing that can make you great at this. He
Speaker 2: has a lot of that, but when it comes to
Speaker 2: you know, dialing things up, getting the clipboard out right,
Speaker 2: that's where he lacks in a major way. And it
Speaker 2: was on full display last night because you know, Cal
Speaker 2: not to defend him, but like when it comes to
Speaker 2: getting the team even in the position last night, again
Speaker 2: he has and jan now Davis started playing really, really well.
Speaker 2: And look, it's always weird because I kind of pumped
Speaker 2: the brakes anytime I go there because he is coaching
Speaker 2: elite talent that every program wanted. But he's also you know,
Speaker 2: most of them are freshmen and he I think, I
Speaker 2: believe he's always been able to clearly get more out
Speaker 2: of those guys than most would because one of the
Speaker 2: things that he was criticized for for a good reason
Speaker 2: during his time in Lexington, especially towards the end, was
Speaker 2: the fact that he he would, you know, give you
Speaker 2: the excuse, well, they're young. What do you expect? They're young?
Speaker 2: They're young, And I think he would do it just
Speaker 2: to piss you guys off talking about Kentucky Farance, I
Speaker 2: really do, like I think he knew that you will
Speaker 2: like but you chose to be young, you could have,
Speaker 2: you know, like he did it just to mess with you.
Speaker 2: He trolled you towards the end. But he would always
Speaker 2: say that publicly, well they're young, they're young, or he
Speaker 2: would say things like, you know, we haven't practiced. But
Speaker 2: I don't think he coaches those like he he'll bay
Speaker 2: them and defend them about being young in a press conference,
Speaker 2: in an interview on his radio show, But I don't
Speaker 2: think he does that internally. I think he demands a
Speaker 2: lot out of those guys that at eighteen, And that's
Speaker 2: why you can get too late in the season and
Speaker 2: Arkansas be playing as good as they did down the stretch,
Speaker 2: and they played really good last night until it fell apart.
Speaker 2: So you know, you know his whole I can't hide
Speaker 2: you here at Kentucky, and he's probably saying the same
Speaker 2: thing playing the same hits at Arkansas, I can't hide
Speaker 2: you here, Like I think that's an element to where
Speaker 2: he really does not treat you at all like a
Speaker 2: freshman when he's coaching you, but he does you know,
Speaker 2: he's going to defend you to the media because that's
Speaker 2: that's his approach. So again, he's got a gift at
Speaker 2: getting young talented freshmen to I believe, being a much
Speaker 2: maybe not a much better, but a lot better situation
Speaker 2: in February and March than they would be had they
Speaker 2: played for somebody else. Now there are exceptions. Anthony Davis
Speaker 2: would have done that wherever he went, Cooper Flagg at
Speaker 2: Duke would have done that, wherever would be doing this
Speaker 2: wherever he went. Exceptions, But there's other guys, you know,
Speaker 2: like a Shay Gilders Alexander. You know, I can't credit
Speaker 2: Cali Perry for Shay Gilders Alexander being an NBA MVP
Speaker 2: candidate for the second straight year, because that's his ability,
Speaker 2: his talent, and he's clearly got a great work ethic.
Speaker 2: He came to Kentucky kind of hungry, right like, he
Speaker 2: wasn't a primetime recruit compared to the vast majority of
Speaker 2: the players that John Calipari brought in, but he he
Speaker 2: got him ready to wear. Shay was what not. Even
Speaker 2: starting at the beginning of the season, he was behind
Speaker 2: Quade Green, you remember that name, And then by the
Speaker 2: time you got to February, he was one of the
Speaker 2: best guards in the SEC. So again, clearly he's doing
Speaker 2: it with a talented player. But I just think there's
Speaker 2: things that like cal is really really good at some
Speaker 2: things that have nothing to do with X and o's,
Speaker 2: which will always make him a relevant and a good
Speaker 2: coach that will win I think a lot more games
Speaker 2: than he will lose. But his blatant lack of strategic
Speaker 2: x's and o stuff has been evident since he was
Speaker 2: at UMass. It's just it's just clear. So sometimes he
Speaker 2: can overcome that, right, sometimes he can overcome not being
Speaker 2: great that the x's no is because he really just
Speaker 2: he unleashes an insane amount of talent with his roster
Speaker 2: every year. And if he's got him playing with confidence,
Speaker 2: and they're playing at their highest level, and they're competing
Speaker 2: like they you know, like they did when they went
Speaker 2: to Rup, like they did whenever they played Saint John's
Speaker 2: last week, those are like he can get those guys
Speaker 2: to be at their best and play like absolute dogs
Speaker 2: in those moments and again, I think that's a gift
Speaker 2: that he has and that's a factor in him being
Speaker 2: a coach. There's a lot of components to being a coach.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of different ways to do it, different styles.
Speaker 2: But I still think last night was again a great
Speaker 2: example of he's always lacked when it comes to just
Speaker 2: strategic stuff. And you know that, I think is why
Speaker 2: he has one title. I mean a Kentucky he should
Speaker 2: have had more, right, and if you go back, I
Speaker 2: mean all the tournament laws, so it's not all of them,
Speaker 2: but a lot of the tournament losses that Cali Perry
Speaker 2: had at Kentucky in the last decade, most of them
Speaker 2: were to teams that you just know weren't as good
Speaker 2: as Kentucky. Now that doesn't mean that you know you
Speaker 2: can't lose a game, but like Yukon in the championship game,
Speaker 2: Kevin Alie beat him in the championship game. Think about that,
Speaker 2: like that's insane, right. Look at that team he had,
Speaker 2: Julius Randall, I mean, James Young, I mean that the
Speaker 2: Harrison Twins, Like that team was great. And then you
Speaker 2: know Kansas State in the Sweet sixteen, Bruce Weber coaching
Speaker 2: that team, by the way, like Kevin Alie, Bruce Webber.
Speaker 2: They sent Cal home with an NBA roster And it's
Speaker 2: because when you have that weakness of just you know,
Speaker 2: strategic x's and O stuff, even bad coaches can take
Speaker 2: advantage of it at times. And just to see him,
Speaker 2: you know, not call a time out late last time,
Speaker 2: I mean, it was an absolute It was a mess,
Speaker 2: and I'll be honest that kind of enjoyed it myself.
Speaker 2: I mean I didn't really have any you know, I
Speaker 2: wasn't pulling for Cal in Arkansas. But there is the
Speaker 2: element in the rivalry where it's like, Okay, if he
Speaker 2: keeps dancing on and they somehow, you know, slip up
Speaker 2: and lose, let's say they lose to Night to Tennessee,
Speaker 2: that'll be bad for Kentucky fans. And I kind of
Speaker 2: want that to happen because you know, I'm a lunatic.
Speaker 2: That's what the rivalry does to us.
Speaker 4: That would be one of their possible worst case scenarios
Speaker 4: that Dately never would have thought of going into this
Speaker 4: year to in my opinion, yh oh.
Speaker 2: And I agree, and look tonight, these players for Kentucky
Speaker 2: have no they don't care about John Calipeire. They don't
Speaker 2: even know him, you know what I mean? So in
Speaker 2: Mark Popel like there's no pressure in any way and
Speaker 2: has not been in any way for this team that
Speaker 2: Kentucky has right now to perform in March because they
Speaker 2: got out do Calipari Like they don't even think about him,
Speaker 2: they don't know him. But the fan base it's been
Speaker 2: on there like they it's been on their mind a
Speaker 2: lot more than I think they would admit. So anyways,
Speaker 2: let's get to a quick break. In fact, before we
Speaker 2: do that, let's go to the phone lines. We've had
Speaker 2: somebody that's been waiting patiently. But when we do take
Speaker 2: this call and then take a break, we'll come back
Speaker 2: and get you set a lot to get to a busy,
Speaker 2: busy day and uh, I hope you guys hang out.
Speaker 2: But let's go to let's go to let's se is it?
Speaker 2: Let's go to Jay Rock? Who wants to talk Kid Rock?
Speaker 5: Hey, I got a couple of things. First off Balls
Speaker 5: by ninety and uh bro talking about Kid Rock's debut album. Now,
Speaker 5: he had an album back in nineteen ninety and his
Speaker 5: best song ever is called Yodling in the Valley. It's
Speaker 5: about Kid Rock Joldlin in the Valley.
Speaker 2: You need to check it out, Jay Rock, would we
Speaker 2: be allowed to play it on the show?
Speaker 4: You think?
Speaker 2: Or is it too is it too graphic?
Speaker 5: No player?
Speaker 2: Thank you Jay Rock. No Player.
Speaker 4: That's all the endorsement on E.
Speaker 2: That was kind of a badass way to end his call. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, Jay Rock usually is just ahalla, but that
Speaker 2: no Play. I mean I felt like he meant it
Speaker 2: when he said.
Speaker 4: Right, he's he's yes, not the first time.
Speaker 2: Kid rocks first album was probably a rap album because
Speaker 2: for those who don't know, like that's what he did before.
Speaker 2: I mean, like he was his image now compared to
Speaker 2: his image like you ever seen the movie How House
Speaker 2: Party Kid and Play? Yes, so like I'm pretty sure
Speaker 2: he had a haircut similar to the guy who has
Speaker 2: you know, like the oh yeah, I always get the
Speaker 2: two guys mixed up in that movie Kid and Play.
Speaker 2: I don't know which one's which, but yeah, Kid Rock
Speaker 2: has he's had quite He's evolved in a major way
Speaker 2: over the last you know, over the last twenty something year.
Speaker 2: In fact, longer than that. I mean this was in
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety. This is probably okay, this right here, it's
Speaker 2: the most notable one, right has to be. And it's
Speaker 2: like so sing along Kumbaya corny.
Speaker 4: But you know but in karaoke song that in picture,
Speaker 4: yeah yeah, American.
Speaker 2: Badass was really really oh yeah, really good.
Speaker 4: It's the undertaker right there, baby.
Speaker 2: It's stuff all right, quick break, keep it locked right here.
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Speaker 2: So, Kid Rock is in town the night at the
Speaker 2: YOUM Center. And I mean I never claimed to be
Speaker 2: like a Kid Rock super fan at all, because I'm not,
Speaker 2: oh absolutely, but I said debut album, like he had
Speaker 2: way more albums than I realized, like before he was famous.
Speaker 2: I guess I meant, like, you know, when he became mainstream,
Speaker 2: because it was the album in nineteen ninety eight that
Speaker 2: was Devil without a cause I was ten years old.
Speaker 2: Now I probably shouldn't have been listening to kid Rock
Speaker 2: at that time, but like I remember when he became
Speaker 2: like a thing. I remember, I'm looking at the cover
Speaker 2: right now because I had this CD. I got birthday
Speaker 2: money and I went and bought I went and bought
Speaker 2: this CD, Devil without a Cause. And then I also
Speaker 2: purchased Limp Biscuit they have I don't remember the name
Speaker 2: of that album, yeah, but it is the one that had.
Speaker 4: The chocolate starfish and the hit dog flavored water?
Speaker 2: Did it off of the nookie? That's that's what that yeah.
Speaker 2: So and then also I also there was one more
Speaker 2: CD that I bought. Oh it was well, no never,
Speaker 2: that was a different time. Well, I mean you said
Speaker 2: it like the first few CDs I bought are those two?
Speaker 2: And then I also bought Eminem's one of his out,
Speaker 2: one of his first albums, and and those were like
Speaker 2: I just remember, and I think a lot of people listening.
Speaker 2: Rather if you're somebody who you know, was a lot
Speaker 2: younger than me, and your first introduction to music was
Speaker 2: on you know, was digital, like on the internet, not radio,
Speaker 2: then then you know you make me feel old. But
Speaker 2: like even if you're somebody that is a lot older
Speaker 2: than me, like you probably remember the first record you bought,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Right, I think those three right there, lip Biscuit, Kid Rock,
Speaker 4: Eminem when we talked about like late nineties, you said
Speaker 4: it earlier, like that's It's plastered everywhere on TRL E
Speaker 4: entertainment magazines and stuff like that. And that's that's what
Speaker 4: I remember with Carson Daley A TRL was watching that
Speaker 4: all the time. It's TRL right, Oh yeah, TRL. I
Speaker 4: thought I was getting mixed up. But yeah, that that
Speaker 4: and music that did such a thing for music and
Speaker 4: influence on us as kids. Like you said, we probably
Speaker 4: shouldn't have been listening to that music, but the culture
Speaker 4: that had I mean, hell, they were on like like
Speaker 4: wrestling and stuff. That's how I got introduced a kid
Speaker 4: rock with well that was a freaking undertaker.
Speaker 2: So that was when the internet was a baby, right,
Speaker 2: and you still had to absolutely utilize mainstream traditional television
Speaker 2: radio like you know, Like I don't know if the
Speaker 2: WWE Attitude era would have happened if the Internet and
Speaker 2: social media existed at that time. No, And that's that's
Speaker 2: a crazy thing to think about. And I'm I know,
Speaker 2: I just did a hard right turn to wrestling there,
Speaker 2: But I'm just thinking like in that like that was
Speaker 2: all kind of the same time, right, Like that was
Speaker 2: the same era, like late nineties, early two thousands, yep.
Speaker 2: And I'm looking here at the track listing for that
Speaker 2: Devil without a Cause album and I forgot about only
Speaker 2: god knows why, Like that was deep. I remember, I remember,
Speaker 2: you know, ten year old me thinking like, man, this
Speaker 2: is deep, like I can relate to this, and you know,
Speaker 2: of course not like I mean that is that is
Speaker 2: a really funny and I mean a really funny TikTok
Speaker 2: trend that I'm seeing all over TikTok whenever I'm on there,
Speaker 2: that it's in the algorithm, probably just because I you know,
Speaker 2: they got like a chip in my brain or something.
Speaker 2: I can think of something that I want to see
Speaker 2: and then I'll open up TikTok and it'll be there,
Speaker 2: like it's insane. And I'm sure there was a real
Speaker 2: reason why we had to worry about losing the app
Speaker 2: because of you know, the information and what you know,
Speaker 2: basically what they have. We use the app, but I'll
Speaker 2: live with it because forget, it's entertaining. But they'll show
Speaker 2: people will now post a picture of them as like
Speaker 2: a child when they're like, you know, eight, nine years old,
Speaker 2: ten years old, maybe a little bit older, maybe a
Speaker 2: little bit younger. And the caption says, this was my anthem,
Speaker 2: and I was obsessed with this song when I looked
Speaker 2: like this. And if you go and like pull a
Speaker 2: picture of me as an eight year old, I guess
Speaker 2: I would have been in like third fourth grade, probably
Speaker 2: going into fourth grade at the time this album came out,
Speaker 2: and I remember, like, I mean I could sing every
Speaker 2: word to these songs. I probably you know did in
Speaker 2: my room. But like a picture of me as an
Speaker 2: eight year old with you know, ball with the Ball
Speaker 2: or Cowboy or Devil without a Cause, Like, just like that,
Speaker 2: it's not fitting, you know what I'm saying, Like they'll be,
Speaker 2: they'll be the most the most common tiktoks I'm referring
Speaker 2: to are like girls that are awkward in like eleven
Speaker 2: and there, and it's a girl song that's like or
Speaker 2: a rap song that's like super provocative and like sexual,
Speaker 2: and it's just like it's awkward. But like I'm sitting
Speaker 2: here thinking, like you know what, like I eight year
Speaker 2: old Nick was listening to things that he had no
Speaker 2: business listening to, and you know, kind of like getting
Speaker 2: lost in the music as if like I'm the target
Speaker 2: audience when in no way, shape or form was I
Speaker 2: People like kids still like get connected to music now, right,
Speaker 2: Like I I think so I mean, like I've got
Speaker 2: I guess I'll find out because I'm gonna be going
Speaker 2: on spring break next only kids. Yeah, Like I've so
Speaker 2: my daughter she's she's nine, My son is four, and he,
Speaker 2: by the way, my son, he really loves I mean,
Speaker 2: but my kids like music. But I'm just in everybody,
Speaker 2: I think it'd be unnatural to not like music. But
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking, like, how do you consume it now
Speaker 2: when you're young, Like for us, it was radio, and
Speaker 2: it was it was TRL, and it was like the
Speaker 2: local radio stations around here. I'm sure you know, heck,
Speaker 2: some of them are probably down the hall. I mean
Speaker 2: as far as like they were stations that were you
Speaker 2: know that that are still around that were like ninety
Speaker 2: eight nine has been around forever. Yeah, And I remember
Speaker 2: they would be like a top ten countdown and like
Speaker 2: I would listen, we would listen to at night, like
Speaker 2: the top ten songs. Because I mean, it's just a
Speaker 2: crazy thing to think about as we sit here on
Speaker 2: March twenty eighth, twenty twenty five. I grew up in
Speaker 2: a world where if you didn't, if they didn't, if
Speaker 2: they weren't playing it on the radio, you weren't hearing it,
Speaker 2: like you know. Now you can get it at your
Speaker 2: fingertips at any moment, like you know, or you could
Speaker 2: buy the album, but like a lot of times, you know.
Speaker 2: And that's how they were able to sell so many
Speaker 2: copies because the build up, right, Like you would release
Speaker 2: a single that people could only hear on the radio,
Speaker 2: and you're building up to promote that you've got this
Speaker 2: big album coming out, and people want to listen to
Speaker 2: it and it's not and they don't want to rely
Speaker 2: just on the luck of turning on the radio at
Speaker 2: the right time. They'll go line up outside of a
Speaker 2: store to buy it. It's just a lot of things
Speaker 2: have changed in a major way with technology over the years.
Speaker 2: I mean, the rapid growth in like a five year
Speaker 2: time span is crazy. But I feel like music because
Speaker 2: it's something that you know, it never goes away, right,
Speaker 2: Like we have different trends, different styles. I mean, I
Speaker 2: feel like now we're kind of in a genre less phase.
Speaker 2: But I feel like that sped. Like the thinking about
Speaker 2: how we got music ten years ago compared to how
Speaker 2: we do it now is insane. I mean, the streaming
Speaker 2: it's nowadays, Like who downloads albums on iTunes? Anymore. Is
Speaker 2: that even a thing like that? That was like the
Speaker 2: new way to get music because you didn't have to
Speaker 2: go buy it at the story. You could just buy
Speaker 2: the album and download it on your iTunes. Now people
Speaker 2: have Spotify or they have Apple Music and you just
Speaker 2: like you stream it that way.
Speaker 4: I thought for a while iTunes was like completely done,
Speaker 4: but I mean you could still go on iTunes like
Speaker 4: dot com.
Speaker 2: So so like yeah, like I'll I don't do it
Speaker 2: anymore because I don't need to. But before you were
Speaker 2: able to download movies from like Hulu, Netflix, right like
Speaker 2: if I would fly and I couldn't rely on streaming
Speaker 2: because I didn't have service like I now, I just
Speaker 2: download something on Netflix and watch it when I'm on
Speaker 2: the plane. But not that long ago, that wasn't a
Speaker 2: feature to where I would have to go to iTunes
Speaker 2: and download a buy a movie or rent a movie
Speaker 2: and then download it. And I remember, like probably three
Speaker 2: or four years ago, doing that and thinking to myself, man,
Speaker 2: like iTunes, it looks it looks like I just pulled
Speaker 2: up AOL dial up internet, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like it's just I haven't been here in a while,
Speaker 2: and uh yeah, it's just I don't know. It's crazy
Speaker 2: how how things evolve, and it's kind of sad, like
Speaker 2: there's something about nostalgia that is like a drug, Like
Speaker 2: it puts me in a trance of like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: to go back to you know, hearing that dial up
Speaker 2: internet sound, and I know I could easily pull it
Speaker 2: up on YouTube. But you know, just like you don't
Speaker 2: have a clue at the time that you will one day,
Speaker 2: decades later long for just little little things, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. But you know that for some reason,
Speaker 2: just really like stood out. Anyways, we'll move On's Coffee
Speaker 2: and Company. We're fiel about Thorton's here on Sports Talk
Speaker 2: seven ninety. As you could expect, we did spend some
Speaker 2: time at the beginning of the show discussing last night
Speaker 2: Sweet sixteen results and really no upset, right, I mean,
Speaker 2: you had Florida take care of business against Maryland, really
Speaker 2: pull away in the second half. Alabama was insane. I mean, Alabama,
Speaker 2: when they're shooting threes like that, there's no reason to
Speaker 2: play them. Give them the title. Now again, they've also
Speaker 2: had many games where they don't shoot like that, But
Speaker 2: it played out exactly the way not I mean I
Speaker 2: didn't think they were going to make what twenty five
Speaker 2: threes break a record, Like, I didn't see that coming.
Speaker 2: But again, if there's a team that that you know
Speaker 2: is capable of being able to do that, they're clearly
Speaker 2: they're one of them, or maybe the only one, just
Speaker 2: because they're built to do that. But I thought to myself,
Speaker 2: you know, BYU they're hot, and they were competing early.
Speaker 2: They actually got up to a really good start. BYU's
Speaker 2: probably one of the hottest teams in the country as
Speaker 2: far as momentum. They can score a lot of points.
Speaker 2: They were averaging like eighty to a game. I like
Speaker 2: their young coach. But here we have a team who
Speaker 2: the way they want to play when they're at their best,
Speaker 2: they just so happened to be facing a team that
Speaker 2: is built to do it, but a lot better than them,
Speaker 2: better pieces just I mean, and that's how that game
Speaker 2: ended up being. It really was, I mean, honestly, it wasn't.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was a blowout. What was the final score?
Speaker 2: I don't have it pulled up here, but they won
Speaker 2: by twenty right or close to it. I feel like they.
Speaker 4: Play one hundred and eleven to eighty something like that
Speaker 4: or one hundred.
Speaker 2: To eighty because I feel like BYU competed, like I
Speaker 2: don't think that they mean, again, they're not great defensively,
Speaker 2: but neither's Alabama.
Speaker 4: One thirteen to eighty eight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was I mean it was. It's a
Speaker 2: beat down, but it really came to like had they
Speaker 2: made I don't know, thirteen fourteen threes instead of twenty five.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a much different ballgame, right, but work
Speaker 2: Sis came out and hit like nine. I feel like
Speaker 2: at halftime by the half, I'm exaggerating, but I mean
Speaker 2: it was. It was insane and again it was a
Speaker 2: record and I'm trying to pull up this stat that
Speaker 2: I it's one of those things that I just see
Speaker 2: appear across the timeline and I'm like, wow, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: Let me let me favorite or like whatever you call
Speaker 2: it on Twitter so I can reference this. But it
Speaker 2: almost makes like sometimes there's like some of these things
Speaker 2: like can't be true, right because let me see if
Speaker 2: I can pull it up here, and now that I'm
Speaker 2: referencing it and not able to find that it could
Speaker 2: be one of those things where it's been deleted because
Speaker 2: somebody was able to determine that, like it wasn't true,
Speaker 2: but they could have. They could have won the game tonight. Yeah,
Speaker 2: here it is. And I guess this is really simple math.
Speaker 2: It's not like you know, you got to really, I mean,
Speaker 2: do you any fact checking, But they could have not
Speaker 2: made a single two point shot and still won the game.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: I mean I haven't even looked to see if that's
Speaker 2: remotely true, but I just saw it last night when
Speaker 2: I was, you know, a couple of gummies in and
Speaker 2: I'm just like, wow, that's crazy, and it stood out.
Speaker 2: But yeah, Alabama, that version of Bama unstoppable. But clearly,
Speaker 2: you know they're not going to make twenty five threes
Speaker 2: every night, but if they make like eighteen, that's really
Speaker 2: not that unusual for them, and that makes any team
Speaker 2: tough to beat. So Bama last night, again they were
Speaker 2: insanely hot. But it's kind of a reminder that they've
Speaker 2: not been really the flavor of the season, right like
Speaker 2: because they went to the nobody's acting like they're terrible
Speaker 2: or anything like that. But they broke through last year
Speaker 2: when Nadoes got to a final four. Clearly in the SEC,
Speaker 2: I think there's been more attention understandably so on Auburn
Speaker 2: and Florida. Obviously, Duke is in the limelight like always,
Speaker 2: but now even more so because of Cooper Flag. But
Speaker 2: last night Bama showed a sign that I'm thinking, Okay,
Speaker 2: that's a team that, like, if they win it all,
Speaker 2: can't we can't be surprised Arizona. You know, they I
Speaker 2: give them credit, right, I mean, like they lost, they
Speaker 2: did cover with that backdoor cover late, but I feel
Speaker 2: like they competed and they were you know, they were.
Speaker 2: They're just not as good as Duke. Like Duke. When
Speaker 2: Cooper Flag was rolling like that, I mean like they're
Speaker 2: gonna be tough to be right. I mean he's sensational obviously,
Speaker 2: and just like their game against Baylor, you now have
Speaker 2: the other players on the team playing really well and
Speaker 2: it's not like, oh that role player. He's you know,
Speaker 2: he's not hurting you on defense or he's making his
Speaker 2: free throws. You know, Like Cooper Flag is such a
Speaker 2: high profile star that gets all the attention because he's exceptional.
Speaker 2: He's very good. He's deserving of every praise that I
Speaker 2: hear him getting. But right or I mean, it's nobody's fault,
Speaker 2: it's just how it played out. But he also has
Speaker 2: dudes on his team that are really really good, like
Speaker 2: Proctor obviously and con Kinipple. I mean, you hear it
Speaker 2: said multiple times every game you watch Duke, and it's
Speaker 2: because you can't help but say it. As an announcer,
Speaker 2: I would assume that, like you want people to realize, yes,
Speaker 2: this Cooper flag out maybe once in a lifetime kind
Speaker 2: of talent, but like this Conk Nipple due like he's
Speaker 2: also one of the best players in the country.
Speaker 3: Maybe.
Speaker 2: So Duke rolled Florida, rold Alabama rolled and Arkansas and
Speaker 2: Caliperry melted down and everybody was seemingly happy to see it.
Speaker 2: Last night was a reminder kind of just like last
Speaker 2: year when they lost to Oakland, that Cal is a
Speaker 2: guy that when he's your guy, what are you gonna do?
Speaker 2: You're gonna support your guy. But if he's not your coach,
Speaker 2: you like seeing him lose. You like he's a great
Speaker 2: villain for college basketball. And I mean that because when
Speaker 2: I saw everybody dancing on his grave last night and celebrate,
Speaker 2: because it would be one thing if he just lost
Speaker 2: a close game like the way he lost it give
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it kind of in the moment. It
Speaker 2: actually doesn't eliminate what he did to get there by
Speaker 2: beating Kansas and Saint John's, Bill self and Rick Wtino,
Speaker 2: but the way he lost it definitely dampens the fact
Speaker 2: that he surprised people by even getting to the Sweet sixteen,
Speaker 2: does it not? Because it just reminds you of this guy.
Speaker 2: He's phenomenal at building teams and recruiting. But man, if
Speaker 2: you get somebody that's you know, strategizing and they've got
Speaker 2: good players too, he's cooked. And that's exactly what happened.
Speaker 2: But cal he can handle being the villain, he can
Speaker 2: handle dealing with everybody hating him, but he doesn't do
Speaker 2: well with his own fan base. Like that's what really
Speaker 2: made it, I think, not to play you know, psychiatrist
Speaker 2: here with Big bluination and their former coach. But whenever
Speaker 2: they were awful in the COVID year and won like
Speaker 2: seven eight games, he basically got a million dollars per
Speaker 2: game he won, and you know, there was criticism in
Speaker 2: a way that he hadn't been criticized before. And then
Speaker 2: he lost to Saint Peter's. He heard the fan base
Speaker 2: that worshiped the ground he walked on criticized him in
Speaker 2: a way that he never expected, and he never recovered
Speaker 2: from that, Like he never like he I mean he,
Speaker 2: I mean he's all I mean that's why, Like he's
Speaker 2: all about loyalty and he thinks that like he was
Speaker 2: betrayed by his fan base. Like let me give you
Speaker 2: an example, Like Seth Greenberg and him are really close.
Speaker 2: Seth Greenberg makes a fool of himself discussing Caliperry when
Speaker 2: he's doing his job for ESPN. Because he's so loyal
Speaker 2: to Cal, he can't criticize him, like he can't like
Speaker 2: he can't be real because it's just all about loyalty.
Speaker 2: It's like Italian mob stuff. I guess so Cal I
Speaker 2: think does have tough skin when it comes to everybody
Speaker 2: else outside of his own because Dan Hurley, he's the
Speaker 2: new villain, right, he's soft as can be. He plays victim.
Speaker 2: H what's everybody acting like I'm a lunatic? Cal Like
Speaker 2: that's why he like that's why he doesn't have buddies
Speaker 2: in the media, Like he's not chummy with I mean,
Speaker 2: him and Goodman hate each other, right, like Pat forty
Speaker 2: they hate each other. It's a personal thing. Like Cal's
Speaker 2: probably got a dartboard with their face on it. That's
Speaker 2: just how he's built. So last night to see everybody
Speaker 2: enjoying seeing the villain go down, it actually, you know,
Speaker 2: I thought to myself, I got respect for Cal because
Speaker 2: like he's done. He's been that guy since he was
Speaker 2: at UMass and he's comfortable in it. But where it
Speaker 2: got weird and where he was called, you know, soft,
Speaker 2: and you know he cares too much about people think
Speaker 2: he won't like if he knows like fans are wanting
Speaker 2: him to do something, he won't do it intentionally. And
Speaker 2: it's because one he's stubborn, but also like he felt
Speaker 2: betrayed by them, and it started just playing like him
Speaker 2: not playing Reeves Shepherd and dealing him together last year.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not something that people I think are
Speaker 2: going to remember for the rest of their lives, but
Speaker 2: like it's insane. It was quite literally just stubbornness because
Speaker 2: he knew that that's what everybody else thought he should do,
Speaker 2: and he wanted to do different to and he wanted
Speaker 2: to be able to win games. He's arrogant enough to
Speaker 2: think he could win without playing those guys together and
Speaker 2: be able to say, look, I told you so, all right,
Speaker 2: quick break will come back. A lot more to get into,
Speaker 2: including Louisville has one of the top transfers in the
Speaker 2: portal visiting as we speak, Kentucky's already landed a commitment
Speaker 2: in the portal. So I think there's a trend that
Speaker 2: I'm noticing here early on in the portal. And I'll
Speaker 2: talk about that next right here on SPORTSCOK seven ninety now.
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Speaker 2: So we haven't talked about it yet, but I promise
Speaker 2: we'll get to it in the four o'clock hour. Kevin
Speaker 2: Willard last night one of the more unusual things you'll
Speaker 2: see in college sports. And when I was watching Maryland
Speaker 2: get off to a good start, now they got they
Speaker 2: got to be pretty bad in the end, just because
Speaker 2: Florida' is that good. But something hit me that I
Speaker 2: think is a really obvious thing. But we're just not
Speaker 2: used to noticing it, if that makes sense. So maybe
Speaker 2: it's not that obvious, but we'll get to that in
Speaker 2: the four o'clock hour, because I don't think it was
Speaker 2: that surprising that they were able to have this distraction
Speaker 2: going on for really weeks and yet it not make
Speaker 2: a difference at all. I mean, they they were still
Speaker 2: I mean you would never know about watching Maryland that
Speaker 2: they had that going on with their coach behind the scenes.
Speaker 2: But anyways, we'll get at that later real quick to
Speaker 2: some updates when it comes to the transfer portal. So
Speaker 2: Louis as we speak, I mean, maybe he's left, maybe
Speaker 2: he's on his way. I don't know. But a visitor
Speaker 2: today for the Cards is one of the top transfers
Speaker 2: in the portal, and that is a six to five
Speaker 2: guard from Kennesaws State named Adrian Wooley. He averaged eighteen
Speaker 2: point eight points per game, shooting fifty one point two
Speaker 2: percent from the field forty two point two percent from three.
Speaker 2: He was again we're talking about a six five guard
Speaker 2: conference USA Rookie of the Year. He is he is,
Speaker 2: I mean he's I didn't know, is this new. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you've seen this before, but I guess
Speaker 2: this isn't I guess this is not new. I just
Speaker 2: haven't noticed it as much. But like they give you
Speaker 2: a noose, like in the portal, you can be a
Speaker 2: portal three and four or five star. Probably no, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like, you can go to twenty
Speaker 2: four to seven Sports and look at you know, this
Speaker 2: young man coming out of high school, Adrian Wooley. He
Speaker 2: is from Cottondale, Alabama. In high school, he was a
Speaker 2: three star recruit, ranked as the three hundred and eighth guy.
Speaker 2: But now in the portal he's a five star. So
Speaker 2: you know, that doesn't really mean a whole lot to me,
Speaker 2: but whatever, you know, regardless of how you want to
Speaker 2: look at it, he's a guy that a lot of
Speaker 2: schools want and Louisville is hosting him. So maybe this
Speaker 2: could be because I think this stuff's gonna play out
Speaker 2: pretty quick. I really do. Like I think you get
Speaker 2: an early visit, you have a good sales pitch, and
Speaker 2: your money is where they want it. Meeting the players,
Speaker 2: then I think commitment. In fact, in the last twenty
Speaker 2: four hours there have been some commitments that rolled in.
Speaker 2: So we'll talk a little more about Woolley a little
Speaker 2: later on. But again, six or five combo guard really
Speaker 2: good score. I mean kennessas State. I don't think they
Speaker 2: were very good last year, but wasn't because of this guy.
Speaker 2: Kentucky's already by the Way landed a commitment in the
Speaker 2: portal Tulane. I can't think of the young man's name
Speaker 2: he pulled up here. I'd not heard of him. But
Speaker 2: again that doesn't mean he was. Mean, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of players that hit the portal that you get super
Speaker 2: excited about, but a week before you know they commit,
Speaker 2: you'd never heard of them. Because it's just I mean,
Speaker 2: that is one of the things that I'm curious if
Speaker 2: that'll change over time, meaning because this is gonna be
Speaker 2: how teams really reload. I mean, you're not gonna build
Speaker 2: rosters from scratch like Louisville and Kentucky did this past year.
Speaker 2: But when it comes to like, the most important thing
Speaker 2: in the off season for you is gonna be what
Speaker 2: you do in the portal. I mean, no matter who
Speaker 2: you are, that is going to be the most important
Speaker 2: component to going from one season to the other is
Speaker 2: how you handle the portal. And with that, over time,
Speaker 2: will people keep up with the lower level because that's
Speaker 2: gonna be the minor leagues now. I mean it just
Speaker 2: is right like you're gonna watch, like when you play
Speaker 2: one of these teams. If Kennesaw State was here in
Speaker 2: November playing Louisville and this young man put up thirty
Speaker 2: on us. You remember that, and you're gonna think to yourself,
Speaker 2: that guy's probably gonna hit the portal, because nowadays it's
Speaker 2: more of a surprise if somebody like this stays at
Speaker 2: those schools, because again, if they do stay and pass
Speaker 2: up on the chance to hit the portal, go make
Speaker 2: a ton of money and play at a higher level,
Speaker 2: all that is is just a gift to that school.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just doing them a favor and that
Speaker 2: let's I checked. Like, you know, most people don't do that, right.
Speaker 2: So again, the transfer for Kentucky is a young man
Speaker 2: named Cam Williams. So he's a six to eight shooter
Speaker 2: and uh average, I think just about double figures last
Speaker 2: year at TWU lane. Yeah, nine point three points four
Speaker 2: point five rebounds. So two things about both these guys,
Speaker 2: I don't know what their offers were coming out of
Speaker 2: high school. I can look into it, and I'm going
Speaker 2: to because I'm curious. But these guys like they might
Speaker 2: have been legitimately good freshmen, and you know, as far
Speaker 2: as they work at freshmen, I mean they might have
Speaker 2: been Let's go. What I mean is like as recruits,
Speaker 2: like they might have had some options coming out of
Speaker 2: high school, but they chose to go to Tulane or
Speaker 2: Kinnessas State because like they knew that they would play
Speaker 2: right away. And now here they are getting rerecruited. And
Speaker 2: this kid who picked Kentucky, I mean, he's going to Kentucky.
Speaker 2: For crying out loud, that's a pretty big time program probably,
Speaker 2: you know, as they say, one of those dreams for him.
Speaker 2: But after a year at Tulane, he hits the portal,
Speaker 2: he's here and he's going to Kentucky. But Florida was
Speaker 2: calling Louisville, Texas, Baylor, LSU, Texas Tech, Arkansas USC. So
Speaker 2: if you're a high school kid and you're like a
Speaker 2: three star, I mean, you never know how it's going
Speaker 2: to play out for you. But if you really do
Speaker 2: believe in yourself and you want to play and you
Speaker 2: value you know, a role, an opportunity, I just think
Speaker 2: this is going to be the new path for those guys, unless,
Speaker 2: of course, you know you are a top ten overall player,
Speaker 2: top twenty, because that's different. All right, quick break, we'll
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