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I need to start the first hour here 10 00:00:33,719 --> 00:00:42,439 with a solicitation, a plea if you will Pete's plea. 11 00:00:43,439 --> 00:00:47,079 I am in need of some service, okay, and so 12 00:00:47,079 --> 00:00:49,920 I'm going to use the airwaves. It's not just for 13 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,600 my benefit. I'm not making any money on it, but 14 00:00:54,079 --> 00:00:57,920 I feel like everybody would benefit, all of the people 15 00:00:59,119 --> 00:01:05,480 that knew all of the meanings behind the tattoos on 16 00:01:05,799 --> 00:01:10,439 our Secretary of Defense, Pete hegseeth all of you guys. 17 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,879 There were a bunch of you guys. If you could 18 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,040 do me a favor, please, I beg you could you 19 00:01:17,079 --> 00:01:22,239 take a look at the arm of the Maryland Dad, 20 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,439 because there's a picture of him now. He's alive and well, 21 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:31,319 apparently being very well fed. Down at the notorious El 22 00:01:31,359 --> 00:01:33,959 Salvador in Prison. That it's the name of the prison, 23 00:01:34,079 --> 00:01:35,920 as far as I can as far as I can tell, 24 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,840 because every time I hear the prison mentioned, it's always 25 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,480 called notorious, So I assume that's the name of the prison. 26 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,159 So yeah, we got a picture of him, We got 27 00:01:45,159 --> 00:01:52,840 proof of life thanks to Senator Chris van Holland from Maryland, 28 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:57,400 who has not met with the family of Rachel Morin 29 00:01:58,079 --> 00:02:02,120 murdered and raped and murdered by an illegally, hasn't met 30 00:02:02,159 --> 00:02:05,599 with her, but went down to make sure that the 31 00:02:06,879 --> 00:02:11,960 Maryland dad that's being held at the notorious El Salvador 32 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,240 in prison that he was still alive and being cared for, 33 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,400 and he was okay, and he was Apparently he got 34 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,840 a meeting after he was told he couldn't do the meeting. 35 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,120 Apparently somebody thought, you know what, let's go ahead and 36 00:02:24,159 --> 00:02:27,080 set up a meet with Van Holland and the Maryland 37 00:02:27,159 --> 00:02:32,360 dad at a place we call the briar patch. And 38 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,960 Van Holland said, ooh yes, and went right into the 39 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:44,439 briar patch. So the reason I ask for the expertise 40 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:50,199 of the tattoo knowers, tattoo experts is because the Maryland dad, 41 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,759 he's got a bunch of tattoos. He doesn't have him 42 00:02:52,759 --> 00:02:54,919 on his face, as best I can tell. It's a 43 00:02:54,960 --> 00:03:02,159 profile picture that I have seen. However, there are internet 44 00:03:02,159 --> 00:03:06,639 saluts that are now offering their expertise on some of 45 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,919 the tattoos that the man has. And what has really 46 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:14,479 attracted attention are the tattoos on the man's left hand, 47 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:20,680 his fingers, specifically on the four fingers, not the thumb, 48 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,840 because the thumb technically isn't a finger, right, it's a 49 00:03:22,879 --> 00:03:26,680 digit if I recall correctly. Anyway, the the four fingers, 50 00:03:27,719 --> 00:03:31,240 one on his on his pointer finger, his index finger, 51 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:36,759 there is a marijuana leaf. Oh okay, Okay, I don't 52 00:03:36,759 --> 00:03:40,159 know what the legal status of pot is in Maryland. Okay, 53 00:03:40,719 --> 00:03:43,319 maybe it's medicinal, we don't know, Okay, but he's got 54 00:03:43,319 --> 00:03:46,560 the he's got a marijuana leaf on that, on that 55 00:03:46,919 --> 00:03:50,479 between the the knuckle and the first joint of the 56 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:55,439 index finger. Next on his middle finger, he's got a 57 00:03:55,439 --> 00:03:58,960 smiley face. I don't I don't know. I don't know 58 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,199 what that means. Maybe it's just when you're in traffic 59 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,520 and somebody cuts you off. It's a way to you know, 60 00:04:04,639 --> 00:04:07,000 flip somebody off, but in a nice way. See it's 61 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:12,800 a smiley face. Okay, so marijuana leaf, smiley face. And 62 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:17,879 then he's got on the ring finger, he's got a 63 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:23,680 crucifix across. And then on the third or sorry, the 64 00:04:23,879 --> 00:04:31,439 pinky finger, he's got a skull. What is he trying 65 00:04:31,519 --> 00:04:38,800 to tell me? Marijuana leaf, a smiley face across, and 66 00:04:38,879 --> 00:04:47,079 a skull. Well. I decided to do a quick Google search. Actually, 67 00:04:47,079 --> 00:04:50,439 not Google, they're monopoly. Did you hear that? Anyway, I 68 00:04:50,519 --> 00:04:53,199 did a search on duck duck Go, which is native 69 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,879 to the Brave browser, which I highly recommend as a browser. 70 00:04:57,519 --> 00:05:02,560 I'm not paid to say that either, but the apparently 71 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,839 did you know that criminal enterprises people who participate in 72 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,800 gang activity. They are fond of the body art. Did 73 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,600 you know this? They like to Yeah, they wear tattoos. 74 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,680 They put tattoos on themselves. Well I guess they have 75 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,600 somebody put them on. Well, maybe they do their own, 76 00:05:19,639 --> 00:05:26,360 but whatever, they have tats, and the tattoos oftentimes communicate 77 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:33,920 their affiliation with the criminal enterprise. And there's a gang. 78 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:40,040 Maybe you've heard of them. They're called MS thirteen and 79 00:05:40,439 --> 00:05:46,839 Marisalvutra whatever thirteen and I think they're originally out of Honduras. 80 00:05:47,319 --> 00:05:51,079 Not to be confused with the Barrio eighteen group. It's 81 00:05:51,079 --> 00:05:53,600 a different group, that's the eighteenth Street Gang or something. 82 00:05:54,759 --> 00:05:57,319 But they too, both of these gangs, and they are 83 00:05:57,439 --> 00:05:59,839 rival gangs. They do not like each other, like this 84 00:06:00,079 --> 00:06:03,800 Sharks and the Jets, you know, and they don't like 85 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,199 each other. But they also share a similarity in that 86 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,439 they wear a lot of tattoos. They have a lot 87 00:06:09,439 --> 00:06:16,160 of tattoos, and get this, they hide some of their 88 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:22,920 gang logos and stuff inside of what seemingly would be 89 00:06:23,399 --> 00:06:30,399 at first glance innocuous images or even religious images. In fact, 90 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:34,800 that's a pretty big one. They really do enjoy hiding 91 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:45,160 their gang symbols inside of Christian iconography. And one of 92 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:49,839 those symbols they really like to use. They hide the 93 00:06:49,879 --> 00:06:56,399 one in a cross and they hide the three in 94 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:02,800 a skull. Now, think of the four tattoos again, marijuana 95 00:07:03,959 --> 00:07:10,360 smiley face, cross or one and skull with the three 96 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:21,959 in it. M marijuana smiley face, one, three. All you 97 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,639 experts in tattoo art and what the real meaning is, 98 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,959 particularly when it when it comes to, you know, burying 99 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:36,319 these nefarious ideologies inside of body art. Could you guys 100 00:07:36,399 --> 00:07:38,519 lend your expertise on this one. Just take a look, 101 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,800 see if you notice anything, because I think that might 102 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,560 be relevant if you're, you know, accused of being in 103 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,680 the MS thirteen gang, if you're sporting a bunch of 104 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:56,040 tats that are in line with the MS thirteen gang, inc. 105 00:07:56,639 --> 00:08:00,360 You know. So that's my plea. Thank you very very much. 106 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,399 If you can lend your expertise to this investigation, we 107 00:08:03,439 --> 00:08:07,720 would greatly appreciate it. I don't know if this is 108 00:08:09,199 --> 00:08:12,639 actually the case. I don't know for sure because I've 109 00:08:12,639 --> 00:08:16,000 never spoken to this I mean this Maryland dad. I've 110 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:20,199 never spoken to mister Abrago Garcia, so I don't know 111 00:08:20,519 --> 00:08:23,759 for sure why he chose all of these different tattoos. 112 00:08:24,199 --> 00:08:27,879 But I can tell you that the tattoos are in 113 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,399 line with what MS thirteen does. 114 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:30,519 Speaker 2: Oh. 115 00:08:30,519 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 1: They're also big fans of the you know, the three monkeys. 116 00:08:35,759 --> 00:08:40,919 On's got their hands over their ears, and one's covering 117 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:45,080 their eyes, and one's covering his mouth. See no evil, 118 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:49,440 hear no evil, speak no evil. Apparently MS thirteen really 119 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,159 loves that one too, And you can actually find images 120 00:08:53,799 --> 00:08:57,559 very quickly with a quick search online. You'll find images 121 00:08:57,639 --> 00:09:00,720 of the MS thirteen gang members with tattoos had to 122 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,120 toe doing that thing where there well there will be 123 00:09:04,159 --> 00:09:05,799 three of them in a row and they're doing that. 124 00:09:06,159 --> 00:09:10,480 See no evil, hear no evil, Speak no evil. So 125 00:09:10,519 --> 00:09:14,960 apparently one of the things that uh that law enforcement 126 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,279 the gang unit actually up in Maryland where the Maryland 127 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:22,720 Dad lived illegally. But one of the things that they 128 00:09:22,759 --> 00:09:25,840 noted was his sweatshirt his hoodie when they brought him 129 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:31,519 in or when they identified him. He had a sweatshirt 130 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,840 that had a whole bunch of like dollar bills and 131 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,759 various currency images on the on the hoodie, you know, 132 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:43,519 like just our currency and the currency images of our 133 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,720 you know, presidents and you know Ben Franklin and stuff. 134 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:52,080 They had their eyes, their mouths, and their ears covered 135 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,279 with rolls of cash. So picture an image of one 136 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,159 hundred dollars bill and the Ben Franklin image in the 137 00:09:59,159 --> 00:10:01,559 middle of it. Have he's got rolls of cash covering 138 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,840 his eyes, his mouth, and his ears, which seems to 139 00:10:05,879 --> 00:10:09,480 me to be a pretty specific kind of image, you know, 140 00:10:10,159 --> 00:10:12,799 like I think you got to get that thing custom 141 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:17,600 or like on Cafe Press or Zazzle or something. He 142 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:22,320 was also wearing a Chicago Bulls hat, which is also 143 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:28,000 apparently a symbol in MS thirteen that you are a 144 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,559 member in good standing. I'm not sure if the Chicago 145 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,320 Bulls are aware of this. They may want to do 146 00:10:32,399 --> 00:10:37,960 a copyright lawsuit or something against the gang. But I'm 147 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,200 sure that this is all just coincidental and doesn't prove 148 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:45,039 a single thing in any court of law. But actually, no, 149 00:10:45,279 --> 00:10:48,240 there is a thing, the preponderance of the evidence, right, 150 00:10:48,279 --> 00:10:51,960 that's the civil standard that it's more likely than not. 151 00:10:52,279 --> 00:10:56,639 And either this guy is sort of the unluckiest guy 152 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,480 with all of these things that just you know, point 153 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:05,799 to some sort of affiliation with MS thirteen, or he's 154 00:11:05,799 --> 00:11:08,519 a member of MS thirteen. Oh, there's also a confidential 155 00:11:08,519 --> 00:11:11,600 informant that told law enforcement he is and gave his 156 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:16,440 rank and his his moniker. His name Jaday is what 157 00:11:16,519 --> 00:11:20,279 he goes by. I'm sure it's just a coincidence. Though. 158 00:11:20,759 --> 00:11:23,440 Here's a great idea. 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It doesn't matter who he is, it matters 189 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:51,759 who we are. 190 00:12:54,279 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: Do you do you want to elaborate on that? 191 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 3: Well, the Fifth Amendment? Well, you're a libertarian. I figured 192 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,759 you would remember that we have due process and it 193 00:13:01,759 --> 00:13:06,080 says no person shall be deprived of their due process. 194 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: So that's the fourteenth Amendment. 195 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:10,639 Speaker 3: No, this is the fifth amend. 196 00:13:10,519 --> 00:13:13,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, the fifth Right, the fifth Amendment talks about the 197 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,960 due process than the fourteenth explains the explains what the 198 00:13:17,039 --> 00:13:20,279 due The fourteenth then explains what the due process means. 199 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:25,000 But you're talking about you're talking about the disposition of 200 00:13:25,039 --> 00:13:28,679 his case, right, yeah, right, So he was well but 201 00:13:28,879 --> 00:13:30,799 all right, so what was the what were the three 202 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,080 what were the three claims that he made? 203 00:13:35,759 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 3: I don't understand what you're asking. 204 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,759 Speaker 1: Okay, so he went to he was he was ordered 205 00:13:39,799 --> 00:13:43,600 to be deported. Right in the first case, you do 206 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,279 know that, right, Okay. Then he appealed that for a 207 00:13:46,279 --> 00:13:49,759 different cause, a different claim. He lost that one as 208 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,360 well in front of a different immigration judge. And then 209 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,639 the third claim was the w o R, the warrant 210 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:01,240 of removal, and that's where they said, yes, he is deportable, 211 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,879 you just can't send him back to l Salvador. And 212 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,399 that's where the thing hang on. And that's where the 213 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,039 Trump administration admitted that they messed up. Now the truck. 214 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,840 Now they're saying, well, we can't, we can't fix it, 215 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:15,559 and we don't want to fix it. And this is 216 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,399 where the court is saying, no, you have to facilitate 217 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:19,720 fixing this. 218 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,399 Speaker 3: They can't fix it because they were willingly not doing so. 219 00:14:23,559 --> 00:14:26,840 The Supreme Court road nine zero, right, nine zero, including 220 00:14:26,879 --> 00:14:28,759 Thomas and Alito, Yeah, all of them. 221 00:14:29,039 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: Right. 222 00:14:29,279 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 3: It's pretty easy to understand that he's defying the and 223 00:14:32,159 --> 00:14:36,080 the drug Wilkinson recently said, facilitates an active verb, I mean, correct. 224 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,080 Wilkinson thing was amazing to read. It's about us, this 225 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,159 is about due process, and if it's not a Bravo, 226 00:14:41,519 --> 00:14:44,159 it's about the game makeup artistation. It's about a number 227 00:14:44,159 --> 00:14:46,080 of people who were never given due process. 228 00:14:46,159 --> 00:14:48,519 Speaker 1: Well, hang on a second, so I would disagree with 229 00:14:48,559 --> 00:14:51,960 you that Abrego Garcia was not given due process. He 230 00:14:52,159 --> 00:14:55,559 was given due process by the fact that he was 231 00:14:56,279 --> 00:14:59,759 brought before two different judges making two different claims that 232 00:14:59,919 --> 00:15:04,240 was rejected on both counts because of the MS thirteen connections. 233 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:08,000 So he was ordered deportable even regardless of the MS 234 00:15:08,039 --> 00:15:11,200 thirteen stuff. He was ordered deportable because he was an 235 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,399 illegal alien. That's I've been here for a long time, right, 236 00:15:14,399 --> 00:15:17,440 So he was ordered deported case right, and they did, 237 00:15:17,919 --> 00:15:21,679 but they did, they did, they won. Then he appealed 238 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,080 with a different claim that he lost that one then too, 239 00:15:25,159 --> 00:15:27,559 that's due process as well. He then made a third 240 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,559 claim and he won the third claim, and that was 241 00:15:30,639 --> 00:15:33,720 simply to say he doesn't get to be deported to 242 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,080 El Salvador, but they could send him apparently anywhere else. 243 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:41,080 And so I have argued no right, I agree, and 244 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,399 the administration has admitted that that was their mess up too, 245 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:48,720 and now they are defiant in fixing that. Now. I 246 00:15:48,879 --> 00:15:51,960 suggested that they just give the bus ticket to the 247 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,480 President of El Salvador, who can hand it off, or 248 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,320 they could have given it to Senator Van Holland. He 249 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:57,960 could have just driven him across the border of El 250 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,559 Salvador into another neighboring country. Sure, and that would have 251 00:16:01,639 --> 00:16:04,440 that would have remedied the situation. But their apparent the 252 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:08,519 Trump administration is apparently trying to force this issue somehow 253 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:09,840 to what end. I do not know. 254 00:16:10,679 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 3: Well, the end would be to litigate each and every 255 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,320 one of these to the point that the whole system 256 00:16:15,399 --> 00:16:18,320 goes into paralysis. Because if it's not again, they could 257 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,200 have given bus there's ways to remediate, Breako Garcia's case, 258 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,039 there's often ways to remediate, like the gay makeup Artistan. 259 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,279 We don't know they were sent to elfdalvad or now 260 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,360 their home country, and what's what's this contract that we're 261 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,960 paying them for? Like we paid them what six million? 262 00:16:32,399 --> 00:16:34,399 Speaker 1: Okay, but that's not a due that's not a due 263 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:35,360 process issue. 264 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 3: But it is they were sent without being able to 265 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:38,240 go before it does. 266 00:16:38,679 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: Now no, if they were ordered deported, if these people 267 00:16:41,879 --> 00:16:45,240 had deportation orders against them, right, you come into the 268 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,120 country illegally, you get caught somehow. 269 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,799 Speaker 3: The evidence that there has been for like Honring or 270 00:16:49,799 --> 00:16:51,320 any of these other people, right, So. 271 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,039 Speaker 1: You're ad So what you're so what you're advocating then, 272 00:16:54,559 --> 00:16:56,639 So when I'm trying to be clear on what it 273 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,480 is that you're advocating, because I thought I heard you 274 00:16:58,519 --> 00:17:01,200 just say something about hearing the case is individually and 275 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:02,320 that to to slow the. 276 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,039 Speaker 3: Process, saying that's Trump's game. The Trump always delays every 277 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:05,519 piece of. 278 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: That's Trump's game. But Trump, But but hang on, Trump 279 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:13,759 tried to deport end mass and that's what got him sued. 280 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:14,799 Speaker 4: That was illegal. 281 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, so you can't deport and mass. So we 282 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,880 have to hear every single case. So everybody that comes 283 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,839 to everyone that comes into the country illegally, tens of 284 00:17:23,839 --> 00:17:27,119 millions of people by some estimates, we have to have 285 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,519 a separate hearing for every single one of the people, 286 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,759 even after they've been adjudicated in a court that they 287 00:17:32,759 --> 00:17:35,720 were here illegally. He admitted it. By the way, he 288 00:17:35,759 --> 00:17:38,160 admitted that he came in illegally. He did admit that. 289 00:17:38,839 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 3: But there Yeah, but they're saying that's adjudicated as the 290 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:41,920 crux of it. 291 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, but he admitted he came in. Weren't adjudicated he 292 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:49,279 but he admitted he came in illegally. Brego Garcia said 293 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,079 he told them he came in he explained how he 294 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,440 made the trek in twenty twelve came across. So there 295 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:59,480 isn't any disagreement that he is here illegally, So what's 296 00:17:59,519 --> 00:18:00,839 the doss problem? 297 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,599 Speaker 3: Will He was given protected status from what I understand, 298 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,480 and then they were taking they basically defied the previous orders. 299 00:18:08,519 --> 00:18:10,440 I haven't followed every detail of it, but I do 300 00:18:10,559 --> 00:18:13,240 understand that there's a due process concern there, and there's 301 00:18:13,279 --> 00:18:15,359 also a due process concern for all the Venezuelans that 302 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,880 have not been proven right. 303 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 1: So the but the people that came in using the app, 304 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:28,839 the CHNV program that Biden instituted for the Cuba Nicaragua 305 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:34,119 Venezuela right that additional program that Biden put in place 306 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:38,279 to give mass quote unquote parole, which was also unconstitutionally 307 00:18:38,519 --> 00:18:40,839 and illegal. He wasn't allowed to do that because they 308 00:18:40,839 --> 00:18:43,319 are supposed to be admitted on a case by case 309 00:18:43,559 --> 00:18:46,960 basis by the Secretary of Homeland Security, and they were not. 310 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,000 They were given blanket parole in violation of the law. 311 00:18:51,079 --> 00:18:52,880 And so now so what I'm hearing then is that 312 00:18:53,039 --> 00:18:55,440 we can violate the law to allow everybody to use 313 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,240 an app to come in and get parole. 314 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, no, I don't agree with that, and 315 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,640 I don't agree with what the mask parole with that, saying. 316 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: Okay, so then can we but everybody that came in 317 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,880 on the mass parole system. Then can we just take 318 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,400 all of those people with that signed up for that 319 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,319 parole system and say, okay, you admit you came in 320 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,880 under this parole system, so that means you're not allowed 321 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,440 to be here, so we're going to send you back. 322 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,839 Speaker 3: That's what the laws the judicial system should go through. 323 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:20,039 They tried to sort circuit that. 324 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: No they didn't. They said, if you came in under 325 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,119 this program, program is over, you got to go back. 326 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:26,279 You got thirty days. 327 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,079 Speaker 3: And that's what you're saying is used to apply to 328 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:29,240 the supposed to ple. 329 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,039 Speaker 1: All of it is right, people who have right, people 330 00:19:31,039 --> 00:19:34,319 who have or who are known deportable. Those were the 331 00:19:34,319 --> 00:19:37,759 first people that they started going after with the criminal records. 332 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 3: And they weren't sent back to their home country. They 333 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,480 were sent to a prison with no problem. 334 00:19:41,759 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: There's no when they can't send them back. Yeah, when 335 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,920 they can't send them back to Venezuela, because Venezuela being 336 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,240 a socialist hellhole. They won't take them, So what do 337 00:19:51,279 --> 00:19:51,559 you do? 338 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 4: Right? 339 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: So, what do you do with what? All right? So 340 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,359 let me hang on, hang on, Tyler. 341 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 3: What do you have to have? What term limit? 342 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,319 Speaker 1: Tyler? What do you do? What do you do with 343 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,759 somebody from Venezuela when Venezuela won't take them back? 344 00:20:04,559 --> 00:20:06,799 Speaker 3: Well that you could incarcerate them here or you could 345 00:20:07,039 --> 00:20:08,640 schedule an incarceration. 346 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: Elsewhere, which is what he did. 347 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,519 Speaker 3: Except for we don't know the terms of that incarceration. 348 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,799 We're paying for something. We don't know if they have 349 00:20:15,839 --> 00:20:18,119 an ability for parole. We don't know how many meals 350 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,799 a day they're getting. We don't know whether or available 351 00:20:21,279 --> 00:20:24,079 visit some family. It's all We sent them away to 352 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:24,960 a foreign. 353 00:20:24,839 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: So government needs to take care of them. 354 00:20:27,759 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 3: The government. We have a responsibility under our constitution. This 355 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:32,359 is who we are as Americans. 356 00:20:32,559 --> 00:20:35,599 Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's one of the that's a different claim though. 357 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,160 One is we have a responsibility as Americans. The other 358 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,680 would be a constitutional claim of some kind, which I'm 359 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,400 not I don't think it's actually in that constitution. But Tyler, 360 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,559 I appreciate the call. Good chatting with you. All right, 361 00:20:45,599 --> 00:20:47,400 if you're listening to this show, you know I try 362 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,200 to keep up with all sorts of current events, and 363 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,319 I know you do too, And you've probably heard me 364 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:55,559 say get your news from multiple sources. 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What's up? 386 00:21:58,319 --> 00:22:01,599 Speaker 2: Comebauch retired from Long Island, New York. 387 00:22:01,759 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: I never would have guessed you were a Long Islander, Tony. 388 00:22:04,519 --> 00:22:07,039 I never would have guessed that. 389 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 2: And I ac caught into your interest me in how 390 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:15,480 you know, were portraying all his identifying characteristics. And to 391 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,000 add another lad to that argument, if he had any 392 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,759 of those identifying marks on him and he did not 393 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:25,200 earn or should not have them, MS thirteen would have 394 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:30,480 reacted extremely violently, if not alright, killed him for having 395 00:22:30,519 --> 00:22:31,640 those marks on his body. 396 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: Sure. Yeah, if you're representing. 397 00:22:33,799 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 2: That you're you can pretend to have right. 398 00:22:36,319 --> 00:22:39,279 Speaker 1: If you're representing that you have attained a certain status 399 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,559 or you're in a certain gang like the Western Clique 400 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,720 of MS thirteen, which is what he is alleged to 401 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,480 have been a part of. And he was known to 402 00:22:48,559 --> 00:22:54,279 the Maryland law enforcement gang units, and that's where a 403 00:22:54,279 --> 00:22:58,640 lot of the information in the original court proceedings came from. Yeah, 404 00:22:58,759 --> 00:23:01,759 like they would have they they'd done him nasty if 405 00:23:01,799 --> 00:23:02,759 they knew that. 406 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,519 Speaker 4: He was and they were violent for violence sake. 407 00:23:05,559 --> 00:23:07,519 Speaker 2: A lot of times it was it was a remarkable 408 00:23:07,599 --> 00:23:10,160 level of violence that are with that with that gang 409 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:10,519 up there. 410 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, they tried to say the Western Click was based 411 00:23:12,799 --> 00:23:18,279 out of Brentwood, Long Island and not in Maryland. That's 412 00:23:18,279 --> 00:23:20,960 what this guy's lawyer claimed, But that's not true. The 413 00:23:21,039 --> 00:23:25,640 lawyer made a misrepresentation about the territory controlled by the 414 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,960 Western Click of MS thirteen, which when I saw that 415 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,599 that they were centered in Brentwood. Do you you're a 416 00:23:33,599 --> 00:23:35,839 perfect person, ask you ever do you ever hear of 417 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:40,839 the Strong Island boys? Yeah? Are they still around or did? 418 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,839 Are they fighting with MS thirteen up there? Or are 419 00:23:43,839 --> 00:23:49,319 they just like old news? Yeah? Okay, that was back 420 00:23:49,319 --> 00:23:51,000 when I was a kid. So we were always so 421 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:52,640 terrified of the Strong Island. 422 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 2: We went through the cycle there. We were at the 423 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,480 motorcycle gangs, and then we went into these other more 424 00:23:56,559 --> 00:23:59,759 violent gangs from there. So we have the Pagans and Angels. Yeah, 425 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,839 we a little few flair ups with them, and then 426 00:24:02,839 --> 00:24:05,240 you had the MS thirteen really starting to take things 427 00:24:05,319 --> 00:24:06,119 over with the violence. 428 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Tony, I appreciate it, buddy. That's a 429 00:24:08,799 --> 00:24:11,279 great point. Thank you. Thanks me all right, man, thanks 430 00:24:11,319 --> 00:24:13,599 for your service too. Appreciate it. Let me go over 431 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,880 to Alex. Hello, Alex, welcome to the show. 432 00:24:16,799 --> 00:24:17,319 Speaker 5: How are you doing. 433 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 1: Hey, I'm good. 434 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 5: I just I just want to say that I worked 435 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,759 for the US Postal Service, and I worked for a 436 00:24:24,799 --> 00:24:27,640 post office in southeast Charlotte, and it was located in 437 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,440 a stripmall area. And this is like twenty years ago. 438 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,319 On the side of the building scrolled in large letters 439 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,319 and numbers with a MS thirteen in spray paint. I 440 00:24:39,319 --> 00:24:41,519 mean this craft has been going on for years. Oh yes, 441 00:24:41,599 --> 00:24:43,759 and this should have been done a bit long before now. 442 00:24:44,319 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. And I remember covering the MS thirteen, The rise 443 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,119 of MS thirteen. Yeah, years ago, probably fifteen years ago. 444 00:24:52,319 --> 00:24:55,160 They were in Charlotte. I mean like they just they 445 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,640 just busted a couple of or sentenced a couple of them. 446 00:24:58,519 --> 00:25:02,079 I did the story yesterday. Three people, two people convicted 447 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,759 for them. They're going to go. They're going to serve 448 00:25:03,799 --> 00:25:08,960 thirty five years for murdering somebody. Uh in I want 449 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,720 to say East Charlotte a couple of years back, and 450 00:25:12,759 --> 00:25:14,799 they were they did it to advance through the ranks 451 00:25:14,839 --> 00:25:15,599 of MS thirteen. 452 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,559 Speaker 5: Yeah, something needs to be done about it. I certainly 453 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,799 hope that the Trump administration is able to deport every 454 00:25:22,839 --> 00:25:25,759 single one of these illegal vermen who were here. I 455 00:25:25,799 --> 00:25:27,160 hope something can be done about it. 456 00:25:27,519 --> 00:25:29,599 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think that's that's what he ran on. 457 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,319 That's what people I think voted for him to do. Alex, 458 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,640 I appreciate the call. Yeah, And look, I don't have 459 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:41,079 to choose as to whether or not the administration is 460 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,200 now acting in defiance of the court or this guy 461 00:25:44,279 --> 00:25:46,759 should have been deported. I don't have to choose between 462 00:25:46,759 --> 00:25:50,799 those two. That's a false choice. And earlier call with Tyler, 463 00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:53,480 Therey I think was trying to box me into this 464 00:25:53,599 --> 00:25:57,920 false choice that you're either for due process or you're 465 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,480 for him getting deported. No, I could be four due process. 466 00:26:01,519 --> 00:26:04,519 And I can recognize that the Trump administration on this one, 467 00:26:05,079 --> 00:26:10,160 on the third order, is acting in defiance. I can yeah, 468 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,119 I can see that. I can also see the two 469 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,119 other judges, when presented with all of the evidence, and 470 00:26:17,519 --> 00:26:21,799 upon the agreement of Abrago Garcia himself, who said, okay, fine, 471 00:26:21,839 --> 00:26:24,920 I will leave, just don't send me to l Salvador 472 00:26:25,519 --> 00:26:28,720 because the Barrio eighteen gang is there a rival gang 473 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,279 of MS thirteen. So he did not want to be 474 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,640 sent back to l Salvador, and the Trump administration sent 475 00:26:34,799 --> 00:26:37,960 him back there anyway, and that was in violation of 476 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:43,359 the third court order or claim. So like I can say, yeah, 477 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,960 he was absolutely deportable. Where they screwed up was sending 478 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,039 him to the one country on the face of the 479 00:26:49,079 --> 00:26:53,880 planet that a judge said, don't send him back to Marty, 480 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,279 welcome to the program, hey, Marty. 481 00:26:56,039 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 4: Yeah good, uh yeah, yeah about Tyler, And I can't 482 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,200 wait for you to bring up the ploye. Is it 483 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:12,119 theest gang labeled as a gang? And do they have 484 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,799 the same right terrorist group? 485 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:15,039 Speaker 2: And do they have the. 486 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 4: Same rights to get the amendment? You know, do process 487 00:27:18,559 --> 00:27:19,440 if they're a terrorist. 488 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: That's a fair question. They were MS thirteen was designated 489 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:28,000 as a foreign terrorist organization, and yeah, the fifth of men. 490 00:27:28,039 --> 00:27:31,279 Speaker 4: The same due process, I mean my question. 491 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, there is an exception in the Fifth Amendment except 492 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,880 in cases arising in the land or naval forces or 493 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,720 in the militia when in actual service, in time of 494 00:27:40,799 --> 00:27:44,920 war or public danger. So yeah, like I could see. 495 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,640 I'm no constitutional law expert, and I'm sure there's mountains 496 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,359 of case law about this stuff, but it just seems 497 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,519 to me pretty stupid. That you can create an unlawful 498 00:27:55,599 --> 00:27:59,359 program to allow, you know, hundreds of thousands or millions 499 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,240 of people to in illegally and then you can't remove 500 00:28:03,319 --> 00:28:06,440 them by the same method in a blanket way. It's 501 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:07,279 just bizarre to me. 502 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, and Tyler is about to have three meals 503 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:12,640 a day? 504 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 2: Why? 505 00:28:14,839 --> 00:28:16,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean that would yeah, house arrest, That's 506 00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:17,599 that's possible. 507 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 2: No. 508 00:28:17,759 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: I appreciate the call, Marty, thank you. Look, yeah, man, 509 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:27,200 all right, have a great weekend. I understand the discomfort 510 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:32,279 of this kind of government power absolutely, And I said 511 00:28:32,279 --> 00:28:34,480 from the very beginning that the government's going to is 512 00:28:34,519 --> 00:28:38,160 going to make mistakes in everything it does. It's gov 513 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,640 co for crying out loud, it's not a surprise. The 514 00:28:41,759 --> 00:28:44,640 question is what will they do when they make mistakes? 515 00:28:45,119 --> 00:28:47,920 And they are and they have to remedy the situation. 516 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,000 And in this case, I don't know if there's some 517 00:28:50,079 --> 00:28:53,839 sort of a legal strategy at play to try to 518 00:28:54,839 --> 00:29:00,160 advance a goal or an agenda that would have of, 519 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,480 you know, larger implications for other cases. I don't know 520 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,079 if there's a dual strategy, like with the birthright citizenship case, 521 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,240 which I will get to there. To me, it seems 522 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,559 pretty clear there's a dual path that they're running. The 523 00:29:12,599 --> 00:29:17,319 Trump administration is running on this one. I can't like, 524 00:29:17,359 --> 00:29:20,039 I said, I thought the obvious answer was get the 525 00:29:20,079 --> 00:29:21,960 guy a plane ticket and fly him out to some 526 00:29:22,079 --> 00:29:27,359 other country he could even choose. I don't care, like 527 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,079 they could have just short circuited this whole thing. But 528 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,519 now at this point, I kind of feel like they're 529 00:29:32,519 --> 00:29:35,400 in it for the pr benefits that they're getting. When 530 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,440 you have the Democrats rallying around an MS thirteen gang 531 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,119 member whose wife took out restraining orders against the guy 532 00:29:43,079 --> 00:29:46,519 or filed the filed the application to and then and 533 00:29:46,519 --> 00:29:50,079 then recanted. So was she lying then or is she 534 00:29:50,279 --> 00:29:52,559 lying now when she says he was this great husband? 535 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,039 Which one was it? Because both of those things cannot 536 00:29:57,039 --> 00:29:57,440 be true? 537 00:29:57,599 --> 00:29:57,799 Speaker 4: Right? 538 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: All right? So spring is here a time of renewal 539 00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:05,319 and celebrations. You've got graduations, weddings, anniversaries and the special 540 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,920 days for mom and dad. Your family's making memories that 541 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,079 are going to last a lifetime. 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Department of Homeland Security has 562 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:37,240 established processes for taking steps to remove domestic obstacles that 563 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,640 would otherwise prevent an alien from lawfully entering the United States. 564 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,839 I have been authorized this is from PAMBONDI. I have 565 00:31:45,839 --> 00:31:49,839 been authorized to represent that DHS is prepared to facilitate 566 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,839 a Brego Garcia's presence in the United States in accordance 567 00:31:54,039 --> 00:32:00,720 with those processes. If he presents at a port of entry. Okay, 568 00:32:00,759 --> 00:32:03,480 so this is them facilitating I guess this is there. 569 00:32:03,759 --> 00:32:05,519 I'm just reading this for the first time. People, I 570 00:32:05,519 --> 00:32:09,599 have Okay, I have been authorized to represent Homeland Security 571 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,119 is prepared to facilitate his presence in the US in 572 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:17,839 accordance with our already established processes. If he shows up 573 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,519 at a port of entry, okay. If he sneaks across 574 00:32:20,519 --> 00:32:24,880 the border somehow again and we catch him, like, all 575 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:29,119 bets are off. I guess next sentence. I have been 576 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:35,400 authorized to represent that if Abrago Garcia does present himself 577 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,519 at a port of entry, he would become subject to 578 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:44,119 detention by DHS. In that case, DHS would take him 579 00:32:44,119 --> 00:32:48,039 into custody in the United States and either remove him 580 00:32:48,079 --> 00:32:52,480 to a third country or terminate his withholding of removal. 581 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,359 The woor which is the only one that that's the 582 00:32:57,359 --> 00:32:59,720 only claim he made that he won, which was don't 583 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,720 send me to l Salvador, but you can send me 584 00:33:01,759 --> 00:33:05,079 anywhere else. He agreed to be deported because he had 585 00:33:05,119 --> 00:33:08,799 lost his two attempts with two different judges to stay 586 00:33:09,839 --> 00:33:14,599 after acknowledging and explaining how he crossed the border illegally 587 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:19,200 and has been staying in America for over a decade. 588 00:33:20,119 --> 00:33:22,920 So if he does show up at a port of entry, 589 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,000 he would then be detained and DHS would take him 590 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,640 into custody in the United States and then either send 591 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:35,119 him to a third country or terminate the withholding of 592 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,720 removal order because of his membership in MS thirteen, a 593 00:33:39,799 --> 00:33:44,440 designated foreign terrorist organization, and then they would send him 594 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,799 back to El Salvador. So those that's how they are 595 00:33:46,839 --> 00:33:50,160 facilitating his return. If he comes back across a port 596 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:54,200 of entry, then we'll take him into custody and then 597 00:33:54,279 --> 00:33:59,480 deport him the District court. According to Margo Cleveland, the 598 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,119 District Court court has said that facilitate means what it 599 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,960 means in the dictionary, and you have to facilitate his 600 00:34:06,039 --> 00:34:08,760 return to the US under the meaning that meaning in 601 00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:15,920 the dictionary and submit to discovery to show the court 602 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,519 to tell us what you have done. But the DOJ's 603 00:34:20,559 --> 00:34:24,400 position is no, you have to tell us precisely what 604 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:29,920 you want us to do. First, the DOJ sought a 605 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,719 stay from the court making this point, and that forcing 606 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:38,199 the executive to facilitate beyond removing domestic barriers for Garcia 607 00:34:38,559 --> 00:34:42,960 infringes on Article two. The Fourth Circuit denied that stay. 608 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,239 Cleveland says, I fully get it. Why DOJ is drawing 609 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,920 that line and demanding the court specify what it is 610 00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:55,719 ordering the DOJ two do Because if the Court says 611 00:34:56,119 --> 00:34:58,480 what it is telling DJ two do, it will be 612 00:34:58,559 --> 00:35:02,719 clear it is overstepping into Article two authority. Right. That's 613 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,159 why the DOJ is saying, tell us what you want 614 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,599 us to do, because if you tell us what you 615 00:35:07,639 --> 00:35:10,440 want us to do, everyone will see that you are 616 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,920 You're abusing your power. You're overreaching, You're overstepping into our 617 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,639 authority of the executive branch. But for as wrong as 618 00:35:19,679 --> 00:35:24,000 District Court's opinion is, the GoJ has yet to address 619 00:35:24,039 --> 00:35:26,519 the fact that the Supreme Court said the District Court 620 00:35:26,599 --> 00:35:30,840 properly ordered Trump administration to facilitate release from custody. That 621 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,760 was the Supreme Court saying that, yes, the District Court 622 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:38,360 added facilitate return to us and that was overstepping. But 623 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,039 part of facilitating release to US would be facilitating release 624 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,599 from custody, which is what the Supreme Court said was proper. 625 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,599 And the DJ's argument that all it's going to do 626 00:35:49,679 --> 00:35:51,320 is let him, you know, get to a port of 627 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,119 entry and then get arrested again, right, that's not consistent 628 00:35:55,159 --> 00:36:00,000 with the Supreme Court's order. The Supreme Court, she said, 629 00:36:02,119 --> 00:36:04,280 for them to say it was appropriate to order Trump 630 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,159 administration to facilitate released from custody, it meant they did 631 00:36:08,199 --> 00:36:11,239 not believe doing that would infringe on Article to authority. 632 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,719 But why is that? She says. 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