1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Hello, Hello guys, welcome back to another episode of Bravo. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,599 We're Black. I'm Aaron Keya is not with us today. 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,320 We're still sending her so much love and we cannot 4 00:00:09,359 --> 00:00:12,320 wait till she gets back. In the meantime, I have 5 00:00:12,519 --> 00:00:17,280 the bad Boy of podcasting, so Ryan Bailey with me, 6 00:00:18,039 --> 00:00:20,359 and I'm so excited to talk. We're gonna talk about 7 00:00:20,399 --> 00:00:23,440 a whole bunch of stuff. We're going to talk about love, Islan, 8 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,199 get his thoughts on Housewives of Atlanta because he has 9 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:31,399 an episode coming out next week censored around Housewives of Atlanta, 10 00:00:31,879 --> 00:00:35,119 and then the thoughts on the doomsday trailer that was 11 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:40,000 just released this week. And we're excited to chat and 12 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:41,880 talk about it. What's going on, Ryan? 13 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: Not much? I mean san Diego Comic Con is this week, 14 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,880 and you were just at Comic Con, and I mean 15 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,520 I used to go to San Diego Comic Con all 16 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,399 the time, like like fifteen years ago. It was the blast. 17 00:00:54,439 --> 00:00:56,079 How was your experience at Comic Con? 18 00:00:57,079 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: So this one was the Super Con. I know, the 19 00:00:59,119 --> 00:01:02,079 Duper fun is like the biggest one that they have, 20 00:01:02,359 --> 00:01:06,439 I believe, but Superkong was pretty big too. I had 21 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:11,200 a ball. We've seen the cast of Daredevil, Born Again, 22 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:16,079 Josie and the pussy Cat, the movie. Yeah, the movie, 23 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,159 the cast, everybody was there. 24 00:01:20,159 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 2: God, I used to I miss I miss those days, 25 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,879 like they just you feel like a kid again. Go 26 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,079 into those things and it's just so much fun. 27 00:01:28,599 --> 00:01:30,879 Speaker 1: It was it was, and dressing up it was fun too. 28 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:35,519 I did a Cyclops cosplay from Ed's Men and then 29 00:01:35,599 --> 00:01:37,439 nets year. I think I want to do a bunch 30 00:01:37,519 --> 00:01:39,599 of stuff, like I don't know. I was supposed to 31 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,719 be a Jedi but that didn't work out. 32 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,599 Speaker 2: Did you see the cyclocks The Cyclops glasses they're selling now, Yeah, 33 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,400 they're like one hundred bucks. 34 00:01:48,719 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: There are a hundred bucks. And the ones that I 35 00:01:50,359 --> 00:01:52,680 got were from Amazon. So I didn't get the nice 36 00:01:52,719 --> 00:01:56,480 ones that everybody else had. I got like the mediocre ones. 37 00:01:56,599 --> 00:01:59,239 Speaker 2: But no, I was like, God, thank god I have 38 00:01:59,519 --> 00:02:01,799 a kid now, because if not, I would just buy 39 00:02:02,239 --> 00:02:04,439 I would just keep buying crap like that, because I 40 00:02:04,519 --> 00:02:06,760 was like, oh my god, I need these Cyclops glasses. 41 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,840 And I was like, where where are you ever going 42 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,199 to wear these Cyclops glasses? But they look so cool? 43 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: They do, And you know what really triggers me though, 44 00:02:14,319 --> 00:02:16,280 the fact of the kids costumes, and I know that's 45 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,039 how it always is, but they're so cheap and so nice. 46 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,560 They have so many options for kids, and then when 47 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,919 you look for adults, it's like nothing. 48 00:02:25,439 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: Well in adults, they really overcharge you. They know, like adults, 49 00:02:29,199 --> 00:02:32,280 you'll spend the money. So, like, kids costumes are cool 50 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,439 and they're I used to when I grew up, they 51 00:02:34,479 --> 00:02:36,759 had these things called under rus where it would be 52 00:02:36,759 --> 00:02:39,560 like Superman underwear and Batman and you had like a 53 00:02:39,599 --> 00:02:42,080 little Batman shirt. And I remember as a kid getting 54 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,439 these and like I would just play around like I 55 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,599 was that actual superhero depending on the underrus I was wearing. 56 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: See I've never seen that. 57 00:02:50,719 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm much older than you, so it was 58 00:02:52,439 --> 00:02:54,800 like I think it was like a very specific time 59 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,840 and place. But I wish they would sell under rus 60 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,360 for adults, Like, I mean, it'd still be awesome to 61 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:00,639 have like Batman under rus. 62 00:03:00,719 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: You said you're much older than. 63 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:06,199 Speaker 2: Me, I'm probably I'm like eighty years old, so yeah. 64 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: I'm like a hundred. 65 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,039 Speaker 2: Okay, never mind, I forgot. You're a vampire. 66 00:03:10,159 --> 00:03:14,039 Speaker 1: Yeah right, so you know, I mean, come on, but yeah, 67 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:19,080 I wish they had the adult version of that. So 68 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,400 I could well, maybe not because it can't work. 69 00:03:21,439 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 2: But that's why those but that's why those conventions are 70 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:27,280 so amazing because it's mainly it's so many adults loving 71 00:03:27,479 --> 00:03:29,319 the same thing, and it's I mean, it's like our 72 00:03:29,479 --> 00:03:32,319 our obsession with like Bravo and Housewives in reality TV. 73 00:03:32,479 --> 00:03:35,599 It's all different fan bases, and I think there's you know, 74 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,759 there's a good deal of crossover. I think I think 75 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:42,759 fandoms usually generally appreciate other fandoms, you know what. 76 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: Would well, with that being said, I feel like we 77 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,520 should have a comic con for Bravo where we'll. 78 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 2: Well, it's kind of well, I mean, it's kind of 79 00:03:49,479 --> 00:03:52,639 Bravo Con in a sense. I just feel like it'll 80 00:03:52,639 --> 00:03:55,080 be interesting to see how Bravocon grows and if there's 81 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:59,159 ever any spin offs of Bravocon, you know, like there's 82 00:03:59,199 --> 00:04:03,719 like in Atlanta chapter or a Rhode Island chapter or something. 83 00:04:04,639 --> 00:04:07,039 Speaker 1: Well, I think so because the nets Bravo con, I 84 00:04:07,039 --> 00:04:09,840 believe they're not having one for this year is gonna 85 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,159 probably be an event. 86 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,439 Speaker 2: Like a one day in Charleston. 87 00:04:13,599 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, in Charleston, Yeah, Bravo. 88 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 2: FanFest, which I think has already sold out, which you know, 89 00:04:19,639 --> 00:04:21,120 it's like I would. I don't think, you know, I 90 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:22,959 didn't get a ticket to that, but I would. I mean, 91 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,120 I would love to go. But I think the next 92 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:26,959 one is going to be in twenty twenty seven for 93 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:28,399 the Vegas Bravo Con. 94 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: Ah, the Vegas one. They're taking us back to Vegas. 95 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they I think they have a contract 96 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,519 with with Vegas, and I think they're really happy with 97 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:38,839 how the last two went there. 98 00:04:39,399 --> 00:04:40,879 Speaker 1: I definitely thought it was going to be in New 99 00:04:40,959 --> 00:04:44,319 York again, but it makes sense because that was a 100 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:45,959 pretty big space. I didn't go to the one in 101 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,000 New York. Kiya did, but from what I've seen, this 102 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:50,839 space is a lot bigger. 103 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: It's a lot bigger, and I think, I mean they 104 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,399 it really is. It's insanity. But I mean with New York, 105 00:04:57,759 --> 00:04:59,360 I mean that was a great one too. I mean 106 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:00,720 I didn't get to go the first one, but I 107 00:05:00,759 --> 00:05:02,680 went to the second one in New York and I 108 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,160 remember kaya there like I remember we were at the 109 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,399 Direct TV party and we watched Kathy Hilton do a 110 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,040 conga line. We wore it was like the night before 111 00:05:11,079 --> 00:05:14,240 Bravo Con started, and it was it was pure insanity. 112 00:05:15,199 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: It was it was, but speaking from from what I've seen, 113 00:05:18,759 --> 00:05:23,199 But speaking of Bravo, did you hear the story about 114 00:05:23,319 --> 00:05:26,560 Whitney Rose splitting up with her. 115 00:05:26,439 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 2: Mayn just and on the same week that they give 116 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,920 us the Angie Kats and Navis Sean Truillo separation. And 117 00:05:34,199 --> 00:05:37,839 I feel like, I feel like, was Whitney bum she 118 00:05:37,959 --> 00:05:40,240 was like, oh my god, I didn't get the jump. 119 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,439 I was supposed to announce first, like you're getting the spillover. 120 00:05:43,759 --> 00:05:46,519 I mean, but some people were saying, is Whitney doing 121 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:51,959 this as some sort of like attention grabbing behavior. I 122 00:05:52,199 --> 00:05:55,279 would like to think that she wouldn't. But you know, like, 123 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,240 I mean, what are the odds that everybody is separating 124 00:05:58,399 --> 00:05:59,920 and they're announcing in the same week. 125 00:06:01,079 --> 00:06:03,519 Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy And I'm not gonna lie. I 126 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,519 expected Meredith Marks before everybody, So this news is surprising me. 127 00:06:09,199 --> 00:06:11,600 But Whitney and Justin I kind of seen it coming though, 128 00:06:12,199 --> 00:06:13,519 because I mean, you see it coming. 129 00:06:13,639 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 2: I mean like I feel like I don't know for 130 00:06:15,959 --> 00:06:18,160 a part of me, I'm such an idiot with these 131 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,560 things because I always feel like, no, they're great, they're 132 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,199 gonna be fine, and I never know what the reality 133 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,759 is based on what they show us and then behind it, 134 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,600 and we we hear so many rumors and or, as 135 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,040 Meredith says, the view is in the nastiness, you know. 136 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,279 Like so I don't know ever what to believe, but 137 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,439 I mean, obviously we're gonna see this play out on 138 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:37,160 season seven. 139 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm excited to see it. But I like, 140 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,360 so they were struggling financially, I guess, and now having 141 00:06:44,519 --> 00:06:47,879 like a bunch of issues centered around that, which is 142 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,879 what we kind of seen last season. Like I mean, 143 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,120 they touched on it here and there, but that I guess. 144 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:58,480 That's why I wasn't surprised by it, andre K. That 145 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,519 came out of the blue. Like I know, they were 146 00:07:00,519 --> 00:07:03,959 having like little issues, and they deal with their issues 147 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,120 behind the scenes, I feel, more so than any of 148 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,839 the other housewives on Salt Lake City. But that was 149 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,000 very surprising to me. 150 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,399 Speaker 2: I was wondering if they were going to pick back 151 00:07:14,439 --> 00:07:17,360 up cameras. But then I read, you know, because they 152 00:07:17,439 --> 00:07:21,120 finished filming in the season seven like late May, and 153 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,800 then I guess in the People magazine article about it, 154 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,560 it said that they've been separated for a couple of months, 155 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,319 but they just publicly announced. So if that's the case, 156 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,560 then maybe that is going to be a storyline that 157 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:34,519 they've already filmed. 158 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:41,879 Speaker 1: I wonder h Angie came when he rose, and I 159 00:07:41,879 --> 00:07:43,920 feel like, then it has to be one more person. 160 00:07:45,839 --> 00:07:49,959 Speaker 2: Well, Mary Cosby, her husband lives in Vegas, and obviously 161 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,079 she's going to be dealing, you know, with the passing 162 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:56,079 of her son. Meredith Mars Obviously when she first came 163 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,639 on the show, she was pretty much separated from Seth. 164 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,879 Lisa Barlow had a tough season with John Barlow last season, 165 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,759 but then Lisa Barlow already made like an Instagram post 166 00:08:05,759 --> 00:08:08,800 today going, oh my god, look how strong we are, 167 00:08:08,879 --> 00:08:11,000 like like like kind of shoving it in their face. 168 00:08:11,439 --> 00:08:14,000 And uh so, I think it's funny that like Meredith 169 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,399 and Lisa both kind of made posts bloating about the 170 00:08:16,439 --> 00:08:19,199 fact that they're still with their husbands. So I mean 171 00:08:19,199 --> 00:08:23,199 and Bronwin. Bronwin's uh, you know, separator getting divorced from Todd, 172 00:08:23,319 --> 00:08:25,879 and she had that Modeley boyfriend, but she's no longer 173 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:27,160 with that Modey boyfriend. 174 00:08:28,279 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: Brown is getting a divorce from Tara. 175 00:08:30,879 --> 00:08:34,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, where have you been, man? 176 00:08:34,759 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: Yes, I've been working, like I don't know that's very surprising. 177 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,519 So we do have a third person, it's gonna be 178 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,440 I feel like I knew about it, but maybe I 179 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,759 just forgot because I didn't care that much. But yeah, 180 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:48,120 this is huge. 181 00:08:48,279 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 2: Everybody. Everybody that's I mean everybody, all the single ladies 182 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,720 because Heather Gay is still single and uh, everybody's gonna 183 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,320 be single on that show eventually. 184 00:08:59,639 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: Well, should be a very interesting season if that's the case. 185 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I think so. I mean, I hate to 186 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,559 put a lot of hopes on a show, but I mean, 187 00:09:07,639 --> 00:09:09,639 I really have enjoyed the last two seasons of salt 188 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,600 Lake and if you compare it to like Real Housewives 189 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,720 of Orange County, it's not even in the same league, 190 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,960 you know, like salt Lake does salt Lake, Atlanta and 191 00:09:19,039 --> 00:09:22,000 Rhode Island. Right now, are you know my top three 192 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,039 favorite housewives of shows of the last year. 193 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:32,519 Speaker 1: So maybe we could put Bromwin, Whitney and Educate on 194 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,279 that love show that. 195 00:09:34,159 --> 00:09:37,639 Speaker 2: They Oh my god, you could just do Love Hotel 196 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:38,519 salt Lake edition. 197 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, just salt Lake Edition. I was just about to say, 198 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,279 because they have three single people and maybe if they 199 00:09:44,279 --> 00:09:49,039 want to throw like somebody else out there, this random. 200 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 2: That's actually kind of genius because you could then if 201 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,480 you wanted to, you could have like Heather Gay host it, 202 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,320 and you could have Mary Cosby come in and do 203 00:09:58,519 --> 00:10:01,519 like a little moment on the show, I mean, or 204 00:10:01,639 --> 00:10:04,279 like kind of tell her opinions of what she thinks 205 00:10:04,279 --> 00:10:06,799 of all the guys, and maybe. 206 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: Throw Kelly on there from Housewives of Atlayina, and you 207 00:10:10,399 --> 00:10:10,879 have a show. 208 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Kelly, Kelly. Kelly will be working the event. She 209 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:18,600 needs the work. 210 00:10:18,919 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: I could see. I could see that. I believe she does. 211 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,919 So you've been with Housewives of Alien. I want to ask, 212 00:10:25,039 --> 00:10:29,559 what are you your thoughts on this season overall? 213 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 2: I really like this season overall. I think the casting 214 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,399 of I mean, I think Pinky and kay Michelle. I mean, 215 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,440 I really have enjoyed I mean Ky Michelle, I've enjoyed more. 216 00:10:39,759 --> 00:10:42,200 But I think they both kind of, you know, very 217 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,720 much fit in with that group. I still think you're 218 00:10:45,759 --> 00:10:49,320 gonna see Niani come back next season, but I think 219 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,559 this group itself is pretty great. I mean, I thought 220 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,759 the season before was good. I thought this is an 221 00:10:54,799 --> 00:10:57,720 even better season. And you have the Samian, por Shamia 222 00:10:57,759 --> 00:11:02,399 and Porsche thing you know out obviously, and I know Sami. 223 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:04,759 I mean, I was watching Shamian and watch What Happens 224 00:11:04,799 --> 00:11:07,879 Live this week, and I just feel I feel like 225 00:11:07,919 --> 00:11:09,919 she can't she can't win for losing man. 226 00:11:10,039 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: She just she just yeah. 227 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,399 Speaker 2: But at the same time, Portia acts like Porsia had 228 00:11:17,399 --> 00:11:19,039 that scene this week where she was talking to her 229 00:11:19,039 --> 00:11:21,679 sister on the phone and she was like, oh, you know, 230 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,360 like I mean, if she wanted to be my friend, 231 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,159 we could have done it here. And I'm like, no, 232 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,879 you would not have allowed that. You were not giving 233 00:11:28,919 --> 00:11:32,360 any sort of open signals into like reworking that friendship 234 00:11:32,399 --> 00:11:34,879 at all, So don't act like you would have. But 235 00:11:34,919 --> 00:11:38,039 then Shamiah went wild with you know the parents, which 236 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,360 obviously it was very dey class a to say that 237 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,200 you know your parent, your parent was trying to sleep 238 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,919 with my parents. I mean, that was insane. But I 239 00:11:45,919 --> 00:11:49,200 think Shemiah is desperate. I mean, I truly think it's 240 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,919 like that when you realize you've screwed up a friendship 241 00:11:52,039 --> 00:11:55,960 so badly that you kind of not didn't take for granted, 242 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,080 but you were kind of thinking that, well, we'll have 243 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,039 to become friends again. We're on the same show. And 244 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,120 now I think she really knows that Porsha does not 245 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,039 need her, does not want her, doesn't really. I always 246 00:12:07,039 --> 00:12:10,480 say Porsha comes off indifferent to it. It's not even 247 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,200 that she's anger, She's just indifferent and that probably hurts 248 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,799 the most. And so I feel really bad for Shmia 249 00:12:15,919 --> 00:12:19,360 because Porsia will always act like I don't know Porscha 250 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,200 sometimes and I say this gently because I love Porscha. 251 00:12:22,519 --> 00:12:24,759 She acts like she's a victim, and I'm like, you're 252 00:12:24,759 --> 00:12:26,519 not a victim because you're one of the strongest people 253 00:12:26,519 --> 00:12:27,960 on the show, and you know, you're one of the 254 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,639 strongest people on the show. So like, I don't know, 255 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,759 I feel like, like, secretly, behind closed door, she laughs 256 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,000 at all of this stuff. 257 00:12:37,039 --> 00:12:39,799 Speaker 1: You think she finds humor out of it. I could 258 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,679 say the same because even when she was sitting down 259 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,320 on the phone with Lauren and she was just saying 260 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,840 how open she was during this whole trip and how 261 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,159 she was just like, yeah, I guess, you know, being 262 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,440 a good sport about it and you know, being a 263 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,000 peacemaker with Shamia. From what it seems this what she 264 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,799 was in singing wedding, like she just didn't want to 265 00:12:58,799 --> 00:13:02,840 start any drama and she was coexisting with Shami, but 266 00:13:03,919 --> 00:13:06,159 I just don't believe that. I just don't believe that 267 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:07,799 you wanted anything to do with her. 268 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:12,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think she's such a popular, you know, 269 00:13:12,399 --> 00:13:16,679 deservedly popular character that I feel like her just coexisting 270 00:13:16,759 --> 00:13:19,919 but not interacting at all. I think she kind of 271 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:21,600 was like, well, I'll be able to push Shamia off 272 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,240 the show, you know, I just won't interact. I'll be around. 273 00:13:24,279 --> 00:13:26,480 I want to interact, and I feel like eventually that 274 00:13:26,519 --> 00:13:30,039 would really frustrate the producers. And I think Shamia is 275 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,039 not that this is a trap, but I think Shamia 276 00:13:32,159 --> 00:13:34,320 is doing exactly what Porscha expected her to do it, 277 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,039 and she's kind of kind of flailing, you know, and like, 278 00:13:37,159 --> 00:13:39,519 you know, like people like Kelly are benefiting from it 279 00:13:39,519 --> 00:13:42,200 because Shemia is giving Kelly ever like Hey, come stay 280 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,480 at my townhouse, come do this, come do that. And 281 00:13:44,519 --> 00:13:47,240 I'm sure there is real friendship. Yeah, but she needs 282 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:48,679 people in her corner right now. 283 00:13:49,759 --> 00:13:52,639 Speaker 1: I can agree with that. I can agree with that, 284 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:58,440 But the whole portion in Shamia thing, I really wish 285 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,480 that they could have worked it out, because from what 286 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,279 it seemed, it wasn't that bad prior to this whole 287 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,919 like parent situation. But once she said that, maybe that 288 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,279 gave like you said, that gave Porscha enough to be like, Okay, yeah, 289 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,399 well now I don't ever have to talk to her again, 290 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,600 and now you guys have a solid reason on why 291 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,919 I'm not talking to her. Before it wasn't really i'd 292 00:14:21,919 --> 00:14:25,679 say a huge reason. So production could have probably easily 293 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:27,360 made that like a. 294 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I talked to Kendrick last week about this, 295 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,960 and I was truly wondering, because we'll never know, was 296 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,480 like her bringing that up at the table. I know 297 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:40,799 that came from her, but was there also like encouragement 298 00:14:40,879 --> 00:14:43,840 from production for her to do that? Like Shemiah, you 299 00:14:43,879 --> 00:14:45,799 know what you should like, remember how you were telling 300 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,240 me about the parent thing. I think tonight you might 301 00:14:48,279 --> 00:14:50,240 want to talk about that at the table, like you know, 302 00:14:50,279 --> 00:14:53,399 I know, sometimes they're encouraged to be like, oh remember 303 00:14:53,519 --> 00:14:55,840 you have to you know, remember this and that. And 304 00:14:55,919 --> 00:14:58,600 I sometimes wonder, like I know that came from Shemiah, 305 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,320 but I sometimes wonder if there was pouragement from production 306 00:15:01,679 --> 00:15:02,240 to do things. 307 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: I would hope not, because that's a bit much like 308 00:15:05,399 --> 00:15:09,000 if this was about maybe her marriage, her marriage or 309 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,240 anything else I had to go for it, but to 310 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,600 bring your parents into it, that's a bit of stream. 311 00:15:16,519 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I still find it funny that like leaving, not 312 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:21,919 this episode, but the episode before at the very end, 313 00:15:21,919 --> 00:15:23,759 when she did that and she was leaving and Kelly 314 00:15:23,799 --> 00:15:26,919 followed her and she was like bitching about Porsicha. Kelly 315 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,759 kind of kept her mouth shut, like Kelly was supporting 316 00:15:29,759 --> 00:15:31,879 her friend, but she didn't say anything bad about Porsche. 317 00:15:32,159 --> 00:15:34,240 And then at the top of this episode, Kelly was 318 00:15:34,279 --> 00:15:35,919 a little you know where they went back to the hotel, 319 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,000 but then they decided to still go out clubbing afterwards. 320 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,799 But then it was like they went clubbing and Portia 321 00:15:41,879 --> 00:15:45,960 immediately leaves and so you know, it's you know, I 322 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,639 think that was probably very like that scared Shamia, like, wow, 323 00:15:49,799 --> 00:15:51,679 people are leaving now because I'm here. 324 00:15:52,799 --> 00:15:55,919 Speaker 1: That was said. Actually, I felt bad for her in 325 00:15:55,919 --> 00:15:59,240 that moment, and prior to her saying all this stuff 326 00:15:59,279 --> 00:16:04,080 about Porscha's mom, I actually had a soft spot for Shamia, 327 00:16:04,879 --> 00:16:08,000 contrary to popular belief, because I know I'll get on 328 00:16:08,039 --> 00:16:10,159 here and I'll say certain things about her, like maybe 329 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,320 the mohawk thing, Like I know, me and Kendrick dragged 330 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,840 the fuck out of her for that. But aside from that, 331 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,279 I really felt bad for her because, like you said, 332 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,399 I feel like she can't win for losing. Like every 333 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,840 time she's on the show, somebody has a problem with her, 334 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,240 something starts. But then again you say stuff like this, 335 00:16:27,399 --> 00:16:29,080 and this is the prime example of what I'm always 336 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,759 talking about with her. I think she just does things 337 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,120 is she doesn't really think about what the outcome is 338 00:16:35,159 --> 00:16:38,320 going to be. Like in this scenario, I didn't think 339 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:42,039 that she really thought things through because if you if 340 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:46,159 you really understood how the show works, which went to 341 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,799 this is her what second season? Yeah, so I think 342 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,720 she's still learning, but you have to still learning. 343 00:16:52,759 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 2: But I'm scared that she's not going to get a 344 00:16:54,159 --> 00:16:56,639 third season. I'm scared. I'm like, I'm scared that it's 345 00:16:56,639 --> 00:17:00,240 going to be untenable at a certain point where not 346 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,840 that Porscha will ever say it's me or her, But 347 00:17:02,919 --> 00:17:06,200 I think that obviously more people, I mean way more 348 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,720 people support Porsha than Shamia, And if you had to 349 00:17:08,799 --> 00:17:11,000 choose between the two, you're always going to go with 350 00:17:11,079 --> 00:17:16,240 Porsia because she's just she's an og star and I 351 00:17:16,279 --> 00:17:20,920 think and I think she I think she she she 352 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,720 handles herself that way as well. You know, like even 353 00:17:23,759 --> 00:17:28,200 in this episode when she she bought Phaedra the title, 354 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,960 you know, for her birthday, Like, you know, she's out there, 355 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,119 she's picking up tabs, she's doing this like Portia seems 356 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,799 very well to do. She seems like a star, And 357 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,079 I think that eats at to me as well, because she, 358 00:17:40,599 --> 00:17:42,279 like Shem is never going to be invited to be 359 00:17:42,279 --> 00:17:43,400 on the Traders. 360 00:17:44,079 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: You don't think so I know, so. 361 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 2: Oh guy, It's like there's no there's no way, no way. 362 00:17:51,319 --> 00:17:53,119 And I hate that because I think that kind of 363 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,480 stuff eats at her. Like and I watch What Happens Live. 364 00:17:55,559 --> 00:17:57,160 She was trying to trying to throw out jokes and 365 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,920 they weren't landing, and you know, Andy was doing this 366 00:18:00,039 --> 00:18:02,200 thing where he was like, oh but you can even tell. 367 00:18:02,279 --> 00:18:04,000 Andy was like, I don't know what you're talking. It 368 00:18:04,039 --> 00:18:06,759 wasn't embarrassing, but it was you know, It's like, I 369 00:18:06,759 --> 00:18:10,000 don't know. It's just like sometimes sometimes she has just 370 00:18:10,039 --> 00:18:16,119 like this little wreaking of desperation cringe. I you know, 371 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,319 I love I love cringe. I act a lot out 372 00:18:18,319 --> 00:18:20,839 of cringe myself, but sometimes you're just like, no, man, 373 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,519 I think, I think you have a lot more power 374 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,240 if you if you just chilled out, you'd have a 375 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:26,480 lot more power than you think. 376 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean word of advice you got to 377 00:18:31,039 --> 00:18:34,599 hear from Ryan, Like, I mean, so hopefully she takes 378 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:35,119 what you see. 379 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 2: But I really like her, that's the I I like her. 380 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,359 I like all of these hell I even like Kelly sometimes, 381 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:42,640 you know, but I do. 382 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: But I feel, you know, what the difference is between 383 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,799 Shemi and Kelly. I think Kelly has a good sense 384 00:18:48,839 --> 00:18:53,720 of who she is and severy consistent with Shemiah. She's 385 00:18:53,759 --> 00:18:59,039 she goes between being saying something so outlandish and then 386 00:18:59,079 --> 00:19:03,319 apologizing for and then being like everybody hates me. Yeah, 387 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,200 so its and it's a cycle that never ends with her, right, 388 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,559 and then's just what keeps going back. So I don't 389 00:19:09,559 --> 00:19:11,720 really know who she is. It's that who she is. 390 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,559 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean the Kelly. I mean, she 391 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,880 accepts the seventy thousand dollars teeth that that guy bought 392 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:23,279 her her teeth, and you know, we're pointing out it's 393 00:19:23,279 --> 00:19:26,839 like seventy grand every time she talks about it. And 394 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,640 sometimes I'm like, dude, it's like these are all powerful, 395 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,039 strong women, but at the end of the day, it's like, 396 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,359 we do need men to fund our lifestyle, and Porscha's 397 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,079 the only one right now that I feel like, you know, Porscha, Cynthia, 398 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,880 Phaedra obviously, these are women that are taking care of 399 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,759 business their own way. And then like I feel like 400 00:19:47,839 --> 00:19:51,119 Kelly is dependent on the kindness of strangers. You know. 401 00:19:51,519 --> 00:19:55,279 Shamia is always pointing out, you know, Gerald is taking 402 00:19:55,279 --> 00:19:58,240 care of her. You know. I don't know. Sometimes it's 403 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,920 like when you I sometimes feels like that undercuts the 404 00:20:01,079 --> 00:20:05,400 argument when you're then like depending on you know, like 405 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:10,920 or you're even accepting seventy thousand dollars teeth or is 406 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,920 that a sign of strength where you're like, haha, we 407 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:13,920 made men pay for this. 408 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,039 Speaker 1: I don't know, I thought it was a sign of strength. 409 00:20:17,319 --> 00:20:18,759 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess I hear it that way. 410 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean with all that she's dealing with too, 411 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,400 because she's going through the divorce, she can't really show 412 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,119 her kids on on the show. It's just like all 413 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,519 this stuff behind the scenes. So seeing that she got 414 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:35,400 some you know, seventy thousand dollars put in her mouth, what. 415 00:20:36,079 --> 00:20:37,519 Speaker 2: Is what else does she have to put in her 416 00:20:37,519 --> 00:20:39,440 mouth for that, Like, I mean, there's a lot that 417 00:20:39,519 --> 00:20:42,920 could have you know, and Drew Sidora Drew obviously is 418 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,039 going through a lot of financial difficulty if you pay 419 00:20:45,079 --> 00:20:48,200 attention to those court documents. And you know she has 420 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,960 that friend, you know, her special friend Black, you know 421 00:20:52,039 --> 00:20:54,759 who She's like, no, you're just my friend. But he's 422 00:20:54,799 --> 00:20:58,119 also you know, sending her gifts, sending her flowers, all 423 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,400 of those things. But we haven't had we we haven't 424 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,079 heard Black mentioned in a bunch of episodes now, so 425 00:21:03,079 --> 00:21:05,440 I don't know what's going on with their relationship. 426 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: You know what that you have a punt with that 427 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,960 because I haven't heard I kind of forgot about Black 428 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,079 until he brought that up because they got them bunch 429 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,680 of episodes at the first half of the year, the 430 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,480 first half and then they kind of let it go. 431 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Fadri and see the Fader is great because 432 00:21:26,079 --> 00:21:28,599 Cynthia is like, no, Fadri gets around and stuff. But 433 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,000 Faedra now is so og that she doesn't have to 434 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,880 share that part of her life. She's so good, you know, 435 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,119 she's so good at being quirky and herself and like, yeah, 436 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,039 we'll take a cemetery funeral tour with you, you know, 437 00:21:40,079 --> 00:21:44,039 and it's like Faedra is in a nice little avenue 438 00:21:44,079 --> 00:21:46,559 for herself. But like I want to know, I want 439 00:21:46,559 --> 00:21:49,119 to know how Fadri gets freaky deeky, Like remember that. 440 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,480 I don't know if you watched that season of Ultimate 441 00:21:51,519 --> 00:21:56,000 Girls Trips when about meeting that guy and he made 442 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:00,440 her put a Yoni egg in her private part and 443 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,759 like walk around with it. I'm trying to remember the 444 00:22:03,799 --> 00:22:06,319 story it was. It was a crazy story like that. 445 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,839 Speaker 1: I think I remember something like that. Wasn't that the 446 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:09,680 season with Tamra? 447 00:22:10,559 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, yeah, when they stayed at Bluestone manor. 448 00:22:14,039 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: At Derendise Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, I do remember bits 449 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,319 and pieces of it. I do know what's fader, though. 450 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,880 There are certain things that they don't show, like even 451 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:28,000 her interaction with Apollo son and how they're all really close. 452 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,920 I didn't even know Apollo had a son. 453 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,559 Speaker 2: Yeah she, well, she brought her. She brought him to 454 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,000 that basketball game a couple episodes. 455 00:22:37,559 --> 00:22:39,759 Speaker 1: So they showed that, but they just don't show any 456 00:22:39,799 --> 00:22:43,599 of the other stuff. Yeah. Maybe, I mean maybe, like 457 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,680 you said, they just feel like Fadri just brings it 458 00:22:45,839 --> 00:22:48,680 up because she is entertaining on this trip. 459 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's funny. I'm entertaining and she's helping Kelly with 460 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,680 her divorce. You know, she stepped in there as a 461 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,960 lawyer on that she we found she plays the flute, 462 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,680 she's a reiki healer. We had that whole thing at 463 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,920 her house. You know. She does provide a lot and 464 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,000 she just makes me laugh. 465 00:23:05,839 --> 00:23:10,279 Speaker 1: She's so many things. Yeah, Padri is actually very powerful. 466 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,680 So I want to ask for NET season Housewives of Bailey. Now, 467 00:23:14,759 --> 00:23:17,160 who do you see on the chopping board? 468 00:23:18,319 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 2: I'm really scared Shamia is on the chopping block. I 469 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:26,039 think Pinky. I don't know. I'm curious if Pinky will 470 00:23:26,279 --> 00:23:30,440 take herself out or if she's like, yeah, I'm really 471 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,640 digging this. I don't I can't really tell. Ca. Michelle's 472 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,359 one that I think is really enjoying it sometimes, but 473 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,960 then other times I think she seems thrown by all 474 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,400 of it, like she's ca. Michelle is like such a 475 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,119 question mark. She's a mystery to me because sometimes I 476 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,160 think she's having a blast, and sometimes I think she's 477 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,319 really getting messed up by this, even though she's done 478 00:23:48,319 --> 00:23:50,640 reality TV in the past, and I think, you know, 479 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,759 obviously with her dentist husband and all of these things, 480 00:23:53,839 --> 00:23:56,519 but there's like, I don't know, it's mysterious, Like I'm 481 00:23:56,559 --> 00:23:58,359 still so confused with some of the things that she 482 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,559 talked about early early on in the season, and like 483 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,119 who she's friends with, who she's still weird with. But 484 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,319 I find her entertaining as hell, And I hope she 485 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,480 continues to do this show because I can feel she'll 486 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:10,519 only grow with time. 487 00:24:11,759 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: I think so as well. And then that's that's the 488 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,759 thing with her. I think that she's just going through 489 00:24:18,839 --> 00:24:22,960 so much behind the scenes where it kind of spills out. 490 00:24:23,039 --> 00:24:25,519 We're seeing on camera with even her talking about her 491 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,880 near death experience on this recent episode, and it just 492 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,079 gets so intense, and then I just feel bad. 493 00:24:33,839 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean, but there's another person where I'm like, God, 494 00:24:38,319 --> 00:24:41,839 what a strong woman, What a strong woman that I 495 00:24:41,839 --> 00:24:44,240 would I Sometimes I'm like, oh, I figure she would 496 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,599 just laugh that off. Yet she is so deeply concerned. Yeah, 497 00:24:47,799 --> 00:24:50,920 you know, like when she thought Drew and Porsha and 498 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:56,400 Drew Phaedra and Porsia were like plotting against her, I'm like, 499 00:24:56,759 --> 00:24:59,039 at the end of the day, like you're I mean, 500 00:24:59,799 --> 00:25:03,119 so one of those ladies. You're stronger than already. Why 501 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,559 are you this concerned about? Like, I don't know. I'm 502 00:25:05,559 --> 00:25:08,079 still very confused with that storyline from earlier in the season. 503 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,359 It never really got cleared up. 504 00:25:10,279 --> 00:25:12,839 Speaker 1: That's what I was just talking about earlier with the friend, 505 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,960 like what happened with that whole thing because they just 506 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,279 forgave each other and moved on. 507 00:25:18,319 --> 00:25:20,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, we haven't heard about it, so I'm like, I 508 00:25:20,559 --> 00:25:23,200 don't know. I was like, were you You sounded deeply concerned, 509 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,599 but now you're not deeply concerned. And then I think 510 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,400 Angela Oakley has definitely had a secured spot for next season. 511 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,079 I love her. I think she's funny as hell. I 512 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,960 love when she gets into sparring matches. I think she's 513 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:39,400 so good in those situations. So I love I mean, 514 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,599 I love her, but I mean I think they have 515 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,119 a really good crew. I do think we will get 516 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,640 nine Leaks back sooner rather than later, though. 517 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: You think me. I mean, I'm really dool for it, 518 00:25:50,079 --> 00:25:51,559 but I don't want to say it because you know 519 00:25:51,599 --> 00:25:53,359 as soon as you say it then people will jump 520 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,400 up and they're like, she's not going to be back 521 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,079 on the sholf, Like do you know. 522 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 2: I really do, because she's gonna be on this next 523 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,920 like Rory Twenties Ultimate Girls Trip for an appearance, and 524 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,960 that's huge because she was never supposed to be back 525 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,880 on Bravo and this is and I heard that went 526 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,119 well and I think the audience kind of demands it, 527 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,920 and I think they'll try it out. 528 00:26:13,559 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: I'm hopeful for it. But I do think that Shamia 529 00:26:17,079 --> 00:26:22,759 deserves one more season just out of I hate to 530 00:26:22,799 --> 00:26:25,680 say it like that, but out of pity, because I 531 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,079 just think the season, she just she's made so many 532 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,119 mistakes and I would love for her to learn from 533 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,200 them and just apply them that season, apply all the 534 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,039 things that she's learned that season, maybe not make things 535 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,960 right with Porsche, because I just feel like at this 536 00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:44,839 point that's impossible. Maybe, like I don't know. 537 00:26:44,759 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 2: Well, it's gonna be. It's gonna be really interesting to 538 00:26:46,799 --> 00:26:50,319 watch the reunion to see with Andy there, to see 539 00:26:50,599 --> 00:26:53,559 what can be, how they can make heads or tails 540 00:26:53,559 --> 00:26:56,799 out of their relationship at this point without anybody running off. 541 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,799 Speaker 1: And then the following out with Cay Michelle too, because 542 00:26:59,799 --> 00:27:04,160 they or yes, not on the terms at all. 543 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 2: And Cynthia's got a nice little Gig is a friend 544 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,079 of if she'll take friend of again, I mean, I 545 00:27:10,079 --> 00:27:12,640 think Cynthia adds a lot. I think Cynthia has added 546 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,400 a lot this season. 547 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,839 Speaker 1: Is a friend of Yeah, because I was just about 548 00:27:16,839 --> 00:27:20,640 to say, I can't imagine Niani as a friend of. No, 549 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,640 that's just that's not gonna word no. 550 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,519 Speaker 2: But I think Cynthia really enjoys being a friend of. 551 00:27:27,599 --> 00:27:30,079 I think she likes the good press she got from 552 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,759 being a good friend of and pretty much they used 553 00:27:32,799 --> 00:27:36,839 her as much as a regular series cast member. So 554 00:27:37,759 --> 00:27:40,400 what I my understanding is that they usually get paid 555 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,440 by the day's they work, and so sometimes friends will 556 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,640 only work like four times a season, but Cynthia is 557 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,480 working like every episode, so I think she's she's making 558 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:49,960 some decent money from it as well. 559 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 1: I could see that. Do you think that kay Michelle 560 00:27:54,759 --> 00:27:55,880 will return to us? 561 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 2: What? 562 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 1: I definitely think she's gonna be invited back. But do 563 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,720 you think she's gonna return on her own? 564 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,799 Speaker 2: I think so. I think she got enough. I think 565 00:28:04,839 --> 00:28:08,160 she got a new audience from this. You know, I 566 00:28:08,279 --> 00:28:11,039 was not familiar with who kay Michelle was before this, 567 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,200 and now I consider myself a fan, and you know, 568 00:28:14,279 --> 00:28:15,920 I want to check, you know, and when she has 569 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,440 a new album out, I want to check that out, 570 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,400 like and so I think that is that is really 571 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,240 why you want to do these things. You just get 572 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,240 you know, she mentioned this or you know about white 573 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,480 women at an airport, you know, like Faedra. Everybody knows 574 00:28:29,519 --> 00:28:31,759 Faedra because she was on the Traders. She has all 575 00:28:31,799 --> 00:28:33,680 these white lady fans because they were you know, like, 576 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,200 oh my god, you're on the Traders, and you know, 577 00:28:36,279 --> 00:28:38,079 it's like I think kay Michelle is going to get 578 00:28:38,119 --> 00:28:39,759 a lot of that as well. And it's like a 579 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,680 different audience. And I have to I would think that's 580 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,920 enjoyable to be able to present your other talents to 581 00:28:48,039 --> 00:28:48,880 a new fan base. 582 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: No, I could see. I didn't know you were like 583 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,119 this much of became Michelle fan. 584 00:28:56,319 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 2: Well, but I'm a new fan because I was not 585 00:28:59,279 --> 00:29:01,200 aware of Love It. I you know, I knew of 586 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,759 Love and hip Hop, but I never watched Love and 587 00:29:02,839 --> 00:29:05,720 Hip Hop. So Kyle was taking me through all of this. 588 00:29:06,119 --> 00:29:08,559 I mean, I didn't know she used to date Idris Elba. 589 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,640 I didn't know she's I'm like, how did I miss 590 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,599 this person? And I just love the way she talks 591 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,839 I love her, I mean, I love like she loves 592 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,920 Jack Daniels. I love that she married the dentist. I 593 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,799 love I mean like she And at the same time, 594 00:29:23,839 --> 00:29:26,200 she's a mystery, which means like, oh man, there's so 595 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,759 many things yet to be discovered for me as a 596 00:29:28,839 --> 00:29:30,039 viewer about her. 597 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: You know what. And I was just about to tell 598 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,519 you about Love and Hip Hop. I feel like you 599 00:29:35,559 --> 00:29:38,640 should definitely add that to your list at some point, 600 00:29:38,759 --> 00:29:42,359 because if you think this is crazy the first few 601 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,079 seasons of that Lena, see. 602 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,319 Speaker 2: That's what I was telling kaya. If she's already done this, 603 00:29:46,559 --> 00:29:48,960 how is she giving a shit about what these ladies? 604 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,200 If she came from Love and Hip Hop and already 605 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,519 knows how reality TV works, how is she going to 606 00:29:53,559 --> 00:29:56,359 say any of this stuff matters to her about ladies 607 00:29:56,359 --> 00:29:57,000 talking smack. 608 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,039 Speaker 1: I feel like also to be though it's been a 609 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,480 long time for her, Like that was years ago. I 610 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,359 think I was a senior in high school, maybe even 611 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:07,759 a June. 612 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,599 Speaker 2: Oh okay, So so it's been it's been a while 613 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:11,319 since she's been on. 614 00:30:11,319 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: It's been a good amount of time because she did 615 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,880 that and then like maybe a few years later, I 616 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,599 think she got on another Loving Hip Hop franchise, and 617 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,240 then she stayed on there for maybe a season or 618 00:30:23,519 --> 00:30:26,359 possibly two. I didn't really keep up with that because 619 00:30:26,359 --> 00:30:28,720 that was Loving hip Hop Hollywood, I believe, and I 620 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:33,359 wasn't really into Hollywood. But yeah, it's been a while. 621 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,920 The last thing that she was on that I remember 622 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:42,599 her on was that It's a Love Matchmaking Show in 623 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:48,000 Peacock and it was and delicious from Flavor. 624 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,079 Speaker 2: Of Love was that Queen's Court, Yes, Queen's Court, okay, 625 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:52,799 got mm hmmm. 626 00:30:53,359 --> 00:30:56,119 Speaker 1: And she was really interesting on there. I knew she 627 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,039 wasn't gonna choose any of those men. I kind of 628 00:30:58,079 --> 00:31:02,599 felt like it just wasn't gonna happen, so I wasn't. 629 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,119 I was also not surprised to see her married to 630 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,440 somebody completely different. 631 00:31:07,759 --> 00:31:10,279 Speaker 2: God, yeah, no, I mean, I don't know when we'll 632 00:31:10,319 --> 00:31:12,400 hear about like when that. I don't know when they 633 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,519 shoot the next one. And I'm so curious where we 634 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,039 go from here, uh and and when we'll find out 635 00:31:19,039 --> 00:31:19,680 new information? 636 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: And how are you feeling about OC. 637 00:31:24,079 --> 00:31:26,119 Speaker 2: I don't like it so far. I think it's really 638 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,119 a plant. Yeah, I mean I hope, I hope it 639 00:31:29,119 --> 00:31:30,039 gets better, you know. 640 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: I feel bad though it's like that's the thing though 641 00:31:34,079 --> 00:31:37,359 everybody the seasons that everybody hates. I'm like, oh, this 642 00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:39,960 is so good. Yeah, I don't know. 643 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,519 Speaker 2: So you you're you're liking it. 644 00:31:42,839 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm been enjoying it so far. 645 00:31:44,839 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 2: I mean, but that's what's great is that we can 646 00:31:46,759 --> 00:31:49,200 all have like these different opinions and stuff and or 647 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,480 you know, we're all looking. I think it takes like 648 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,920 what's going on in our lives right now depends on 649 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,640 how we view these shows. And I don't know, I've 650 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,279 just been I've been there, I've done that. I've seen 651 00:31:59,319 --> 00:32:02,839 these scenes with ten before, you know, like I mean, 652 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,720 but we're only two episodes in, so this could like 653 00:32:04,759 --> 00:32:05,640 completely change. 654 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: Okay, And are you watching nets Gin? 655 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:10,599 Speaker 2: I am? I love it? 656 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,359 Speaker 1: Okay, you love nets Gin? Yeah? All right, so these 657 00:32:14,359 --> 00:32:17,400 are good things. These are good things. I'm asking everybody 658 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:22,079 about nets Gin. I watched last season and this season 659 00:32:22,119 --> 00:32:23,200 has been pretty good to me. 660 00:32:23,799 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's it's really I mean, it's just 661 00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:28,440 low le like you know, it's like I say, I 662 00:32:28,519 --> 00:32:32,000 keep saying, like they're young kids, so I just keep thinking, oh, 663 00:32:32,039 --> 00:32:34,400 they'll figure it out, like you know, oh, it'll be fine, 664 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,880 like there's not like it's not a high pressure situation 665 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,960 show for me to watch, and so I kind of 666 00:32:39,039 --> 00:32:42,279 laugh at how serious they take everything, and I look 667 00:32:42,319 --> 00:32:45,000 at it as like a comedic show more than anything else. 668 00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:47,759 And I think, you know, I think there's a lot 669 00:32:47,839 --> 00:32:51,640 going on, and I think it's very funny. I think 670 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,960 the I think they have got a good cast. I mean, 671 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,319 I think the weakest people on the cast are like 672 00:32:57,559 --> 00:33:01,279 Brooks Andingia, and I don't dislike them, but I think 673 00:33:01,279 --> 00:33:03,359 they're the ones that, like, you know, Brooks says, I 674 00:33:03,359 --> 00:33:05,039 think a hard time in front of the camera because 675 00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:07,519 he's really shy. But I think there's so much, so 676 00:33:07,599 --> 00:33:10,720 many other things to look at that I'm I'm kind 677 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,000 of consistently entertained. 678 00:33:13,039 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: Yes, you know what, I can agree, especially with Riley. 679 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,759 Riley and I would say Ariana is giving me a 680 00:33:19,799 --> 00:33:23,240 whole new perspective of who they are as adults now. 681 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,960 And I don't know, I'm enjoying it. I feel like 682 00:33:28,039 --> 00:33:31,799 I've asked you everything about Bravo that I could possibly 683 00:33:31,839 --> 00:33:34,880 think of, because aside from that, guys, there's nothing really 684 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:40,119 going on. We'll probably make an episode recapping OC and 685 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,960 hopefully I'm not the only one who enjoys it when 686 00:33:44,119 --> 00:33:45,000 when you talk. 687 00:33:45,599 --> 00:33:48,319 Speaker 2: No, I mean, by the way. But but even if 688 00:33:48,359 --> 00:33:50,200 I dislike a show, I still think it's fun to 689 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:51,160 talk about it, you know. 690 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna start liking it though. I feel 691 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,839 like more stuff is gonna happen. If Timor sets the 692 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:02,039 hell up, everybody will be fine. Yeah, because it's the 693 00:34:02,079 --> 00:34:05,319 same thing with her. But I'm really thinking that this 694 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,360 new lady that they have on is really gonna miss 695 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,679 up the vibe and bring us something different. 696 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 2: I think it's I like Carmela, I do. I mean, 697 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,440 I like, I think she's got some interesting relationship things happening, 698 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,480 and I just hope, I just hope she's not on 699 00:34:21,559 --> 00:34:24,239 a dud season. Like it's a good cast member, good 700 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,159 new cast member on a dud season. You need good 701 00:34:26,199 --> 00:34:29,639 people around that. But I really do actually like her 702 00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:32,480 so far. I'm really interested to learn more about her. 703 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,679 But yeah, I mean, I just feel like it's Groundhog's Day. 704 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,639 I've seen all of these things before.