WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.760 --> 00:00:04.360 You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from 2 00:00:04.440 --> 00:00:06.280 KFI AM six forty. 3 00:00:06.879 --> 00:00:09.199 And we're going to go beyond the box Score with 4 00:00:09.480 --> 00:00:13.000 Jackie Ray. Jackie Ray, Happy Monday evening to you. Let's 5 00:00:13.080 --> 00:00:16.000 talk a little bit about women's college basketball tonight. 6 00:00:16.039 --> 00:00:17.120 Can you help me out. 7 00:00:17.079 --> 00:00:18.600 Woo woo my favorite subject? 8 00:00:19.800 --> 00:00:24.679 You know Tennessee coach Kim Caldwell. She is going to 9 00:00:25.039 --> 00:00:29.600 coach seven days after giving birth against the number two 10 00:00:29.600 --> 00:00:33.159 in South Carolina. They're always in the headlines for one 11 00:00:33.200 --> 00:00:36.039 reason or another, but this time it's about Tennessee's coach 12 00:00:36.119 --> 00:00:40.240 Kim Calwell. I hear time and time again that a 13 00:00:40.600 --> 00:00:44.640 woman should be given adequate time to have birth, bond 14 00:00:44.719 --> 00:00:47.560 with the child, should not have the same expectations as 15 00:00:47.560 --> 00:00:49.439 a man. But then you have a story like this 16 00:00:49.520 --> 00:00:52.280 where you have Kim Calwell said, you know what, I'm good. 17 00:00:52.799 --> 00:00:54.679 I need to get back on the bench so I 18 00:00:54.719 --> 00:00:57.640 can coach against one of the top teams in college basketball. 19 00:00:58.039 --> 00:01:00.280 How should I as a man, and I'm saying this 20 00:01:00.640 --> 00:01:03.479 that it's out of place for me to really weigh 21 00:01:03.560 --> 00:01:06.319 in on it. How should I look at how Kim 22 00:01:06.359 --> 00:01:10.040 Calwell is saying, yeah, give birth seven days go, no problem, 23 00:01:10.079 --> 00:01:10.920 I want to go coach. 24 00:01:11.040 --> 00:01:11.879 How should I look at that? 25 00:01:12.400 --> 00:01:14.680 You should look at it like every woman is different. 26 00:01:15.079 --> 00:01:17.879 Every woman has something that's important to them, and you 27 00:01:17.920 --> 00:01:20.920 also should look at it as you know these especially 28 00:01:20.959 --> 00:01:23.799 college coaches. I say this about Nick Saban a lot 29 00:01:24.000 --> 00:01:27.840 as far as like his inspiration with college kids, Dionne Sanders, 30 00:01:28.280 --> 00:01:30.400 you take on a parent role when you're a coach 31 00:01:30.519 --> 00:01:33.400 of these college teams because now you're not only shaping them. 32 00:01:33.439 --> 00:01:35.319 You understand that most of them aren't going to make 33 00:01:35.359 --> 00:01:37.640 it at the professional level. So you're not only shaping 34 00:01:37.680 --> 00:01:40.319 them for the game, you're shaping them for their next 35 00:01:40.359 --> 00:01:43.359 stage of life. So it is a motherly thing to do, 36 00:01:43.439 --> 00:01:47.000 it's a fatherly thing to do. To being these coaching positions. Now, 37 00:01:47.079 --> 00:01:50.000 I after I have my god daughter for several hours, 38 00:01:50.040 --> 00:01:53.239 I personally need a break, So I don't understand myself 39 00:01:53.439 --> 00:01:56.959 how she's coming back this quickly. But I also understand 40 00:01:57.359 --> 00:02:00.200 this is her passion. So it's a little interesting when 41 00:02:00.239 --> 00:02:03.519 you're talking about someone being away. She even talked about 42 00:02:03.560 --> 00:02:06.560 watching the game from home right after she gave birth 43 00:02:06.599 --> 00:02:08.919 and it just didn't feel quite right to her. So 44 00:02:08.960 --> 00:02:11.319 I'm sure she has a support system. I'm sure her 45 00:02:11.400 --> 00:02:13.680 husband took a little bit of time off. He's also 46 00:02:13.759 --> 00:02:16.840 involved in the sports world, so he understands fully. 47 00:02:17.120 --> 00:02:18.639 I'm sure they've talked about this. 48 00:02:18.719 --> 00:02:20.680 I'm sure he knows her well enough to know that 49 00:02:21.159 --> 00:02:22.960 her sitting at home was going to make her a 50 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:25.960 little bit anti So it's a person by person situation. 51 00:02:26.080 --> 00:02:29.960 But women's bodies are amazing, their mindsets are amazing, and 52 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:32.240 if she feels like she's ready to do this, then 53 00:02:32.280 --> 00:02:34.159 you should take it as she's just ready to do this. 54 00:02:34.439 --> 00:02:36.840 Okay, I'll take her out her word, But the cynical 55 00:02:37.000 --> 00:02:41.479 side of me looks at some other circumstances where she 56 00:02:41.599 --> 00:02:43.719 only missed one game prior to this, and that was 57 00:02:44.599 --> 00:02:47.960 ended up being a loss to number seven Texas. This 58 00:02:48.039 --> 00:02:50.719 is her first season with Tennessee. We're talking about the 59 00:02:50.840 --> 00:02:57.000 Venerated Tennessee Volunteers women's basketball and she's fifteen and four. 60 00:02:57.080 --> 00:03:00.280 If this is her first season, maybe not living up 61 00:03:00.360 --> 00:03:04.960 to expectations of her predecessors. This is a huge game, 62 00:03:05.360 --> 00:03:08.560 arguably the biggest game on her schedule the season, with 63 00:03:08.599 --> 00:03:09.759 exception maybe LSU. 64 00:03:10.240 --> 00:03:12.280 Do you think that also plays into it? 65 00:03:12.280 --> 00:03:14.759 It could possibly it plays into it for women who 66 00:03:14.759 --> 00:03:18.240 aren't coaches. They are a little bit reluctant to take 67 00:03:18.280 --> 00:03:22.280 their full maternity and even dat sometimes their paternity leave, 68 00:03:22.400 --> 00:03:25.680 because there's an understanding that the longer you're away and 69 00:03:25.960 --> 00:03:28.080 the easier it is for them to get along without you, 70 00:03:28.199 --> 00:03:30.520 the more jepardy your job is. That just comes with 71 00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:33.520 being in a capitalistic society. We are not a health 72 00:03:33.560 --> 00:03:36.439 and wellness first society. We are a get it done 73 00:03:36.680 --> 00:03:39.919 if you want this money society. So to your point, 74 00:03:40.039 --> 00:03:42.840 we see coaches get fired for far less. So she 75 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:45.560 might even be thinking, do I want to take this 76 00:03:45.680 --> 00:03:49.560 time away now when I'm really trying to solidify my 77 00:03:50.120 --> 00:03:52.199 future as well with this team. So I'm sure that 78 00:03:52.199 --> 00:03:54.680 comes into play as well, because you don't want the 79 00:03:54.719 --> 00:03:56.599 team to look at you and say, well, you know, 80 00:03:57.039 --> 00:03:59.319 she didn't meet our expectations and then she had to 81 00:03:59.360 --> 00:04:01.759 take all this time away and the team didn't finish. 82 00:04:02.080 --> 00:04:03.280 You know, maybe we just move on. 83 00:04:03.719 --> 00:04:06.560 Whether that would be true or not, that's probably something 84 00:04:06.599 --> 00:04:08.159 that's going through her head. It goes through a lot 85 00:04:08.199 --> 00:04:10.560 of people's heads when you're in this situation. 86 00:04:10.439 --> 00:04:12.960 All right, So let me ask the obvious next question. 87 00:04:13.400 --> 00:04:15.879 Not that there should be fairness, but it seems like 88 00:04:15.919 --> 00:04:16.920 you're hinting at. 89 00:04:16.759 --> 00:04:19.600 An inherent unfairness. 90 00:04:18.879 --> 00:04:22.480 The expectations placed upon a female coach as opposed to 91 00:04:22.560 --> 00:04:23.319 a male coach. 92 00:04:23.519 --> 00:04:27.360 Absolutely, because a male just doesn't have this problem. Like 93 00:04:27.399 --> 00:04:27.800 it or not. 94 00:04:28.079 --> 00:04:30.120 The male's not the one whose hormones are going to 95 00:04:30.160 --> 00:04:32.759 be out of whack, who she can't sleep properly, she 96 00:04:32.839 --> 00:04:35.120 might have to breastfeed. None of these things happened to 97 00:04:35.199 --> 00:04:37.839 a man, so a man can literally I heard Draymond 98 00:04:37.879 --> 00:04:38.399 Green and I. 99 00:04:38.439 --> 00:04:40.279 Was deplored it when he said this. 100 00:04:40.399 --> 00:04:43.519 He was like, I would not miss a game, a 101 00:04:43.560 --> 00:04:46.879 finals game, for the birth of my child like Rudy 102 00:04:46.879 --> 00:04:47.399 Gobaert did. 103 00:04:47.439 --> 00:04:48.399 He said he would never. 104 00:04:48.240 --> 00:04:50.839 Do that because you don't have to, sir, You do 105 00:04:50.920 --> 00:04:53.959 not have to miss anything. She doesn't have the option 106 00:04:54.040 --> 00:04:55.639 of saying, you know what, I'm gonna put this baby 107 00:04:55.720 --> 00:04:58.240 aside for the day and then just go over here. 108 00:04:58.240 --> 00:05:00.920 And she doesn't have that option. So this is a 109 00:05:00.959 --> 00:05:04.480 big decision for her. Whatever however she arrived here, it's 110 00:05:04.480 --> 00:05:07.040 a big decision for her because, like I said, if 111 00:05:07.079 --> 00:05:09.279 she's breastfeeding, that means she's gonna have to pump a 112 00:05:09.319 --> 00:05:11.439 lot to make sure that nanny has what they need. 113 00:05:11.600 --> 00:05:14.480 She's gonna be checking in a lot because this is 114 00:05:14.519 --> 00:05:16.959 her child, and this is a newborn. So there's a 115 00:05:17.040 --> 00:05:20.000 level of pressure that women, especially women who have just 116 00:05:20.040 --> 00:05:23.160 given birth, they have that men just don't. And we 117 00:05:23.240 --> 00:05:26.040 see this in the WNBA too. We've seen countless women 118 00:05:26.079 --> 00:05:28.560 have birth and then they come back and the narrative is, 119 00:05:28.560 --> 00:05:30.920 oh my god, they're back so quickly because they have 120 00:05:31.000 --> 00:05:33.480 to be, because they're trying to earn money in a 121 00:05:33.519 --> 00:05:35.399 system that can easily dispose of you. 122 00:05:35.959 --> 00:05:38.240 All right, let me just be really unfair, because this 123 00:05:38.279 --> 00:05:42.439 whole comes Okay, this whole conversation is unfair. Is there 124 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:46.079 anything to the argument that although we can conceive that 125 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:49.839 women's bodies are different, although the choice is being made 126 00:05:50.199 --> 00:05:52.720 by Calwell and she's making the choice which is she 127 00:05:52.759 --> 00:05:55.759 feels as best for her in her situation, does it 128 00:05:55.920 --> 00:05:59.600 possibly send the wrong message and can it be used 129 00:05:59.639 --> 00:06:03.759 against other women? Well, she came back in only seven days, 130 00:06:04.079 --> 00:06:06.360 Why do you need two months or whatever? 131 00:06:06.879 --> 00:06:09.160 People can try it, but I know that any woman 132 00:06:09.199 --> 00:06:10.759 said they can try it if they want to. But 133 00:06:10.800 --> 00:06:13.560 I know ninety nine percent of women would be like 134 00:06:13.720 --> 00:06:15.879 I would say, my name is Jackie Ray, I am 135 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:19.279 not Kim Caldwell. I'm an entirely different woman. I had 136 00:06:19.319 --> 00:06:21.759 a different birth plan, I had a different plan to 137 00:06:22.000 --> 00:06:24.920 spend time with my child afterwards. And please do not 138 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:28.240 compare me, because whatever she's going through, I can guarantee 139 00:06:28.240 --> 00:06:31.000 you her situation is unique to me, to the next 140 00:06:31.000 --> 00:06:33.800 person or whatever. So people are going to try it, 141 00:06:34.319 --> 00:06:37.600 but they will soon very well be told about themselves. 142 00:06:38.040 --> 00:06:40.160 Let me close with this question, then, because I really 143 00:06:40.199 --> 00:06:42.360 do want to stay out of this conversation because I 144 00:06:42.399 --> 00:06:45.600 honestly believe it is not my place to lead the way, 145 00:06:45.800 --> 00:06:48.560 but I can facilitate the way. And it would be 146 00:06:48.680 --> 00:06:54.439 if you were to assess how sports have progressed or 147 00:06:54.600 --> 00:07:00.759 regressed regarding women in coaching positions, where would you come 148 00:07:00.800 --> 00:07:01.160 out on that? 149 00:07:01.240 --> 00:07:03.240 Are we moving more in the right direction? Are we 150 00:07:03.360 --> 00:07:04.720 moving more in the wrong direction? 151 00:07:05.439 --> 00:07:07.639 Okay, so this might not be the answer you want, 152 00:07:07.839 --> 00:07:10.240 but I think it depends on who's in the leadership role. 153 00:07:10.600 --> 00:07:14.120 If we're talking about if women are in leadership roles, 154 00:07:14.160 --> 00:07:17.720 we've one percent progressed because women understand that what you 155 00:07:17.839 --> 00:07:20.000 need and what I need might be two different things. 156 00:07:20.439 --> 00:07:23.800 Men have not progressed in that regard. Men think, well, yeah, 157 00:07:24.000 --> 00:07:26.879 but Billy his son was born last week and Billy's 158 00:07:26.879 --> 00:07:30.279 at work today. Men have not progressed at all when 159 00:07:30.319 --> 00:07:32.360 it comes to this subject, so it depends on who's 160 00:07:32.360 --> 00:07:33.639 in leadership. 161 00:07:33.879 --> 00:07:34.720 When we come back. 162 00:07:34.759 --> 00:07:38.439 We're going to stay within the realm of women's college basketball. 163 00:07:38.680 --> 00:07:40.839 And I don't know, Jackie Ray, if you heard about this, 164 00:07:40.959 --> 00:07:46.360 but South Carolina had to apologize to LSU specifically after 165 00:07:46.439 --> 00:07:53.480 playing a controversial song after defeating a rival. Is it 166 00:07:53.519 --> 00:07:55.600 trolling or something else? We'll find out in just a second. 167 00:07:55.759 --> 00:07:58.279 It's Later with Mo Kelly. I'm joined by Jackie Ray 168 00:07:58.399 --> 00:07:59.800 as we go beyond the box Score. 169 00:08:00.439 --> 00:08:04.000 You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from 170 00:08:04.120 --> 00:08:05.879 KFI AM six forty. 171 00:08:05.879 --> 00:08:09.120 And we're continuing to go beyond the box score. Jackie Ray, 172 00:08:09.199 --> 00:08:11.199 let's pick it up right where we left off. In 173 00:08:11.360 --> 00:08:16.680 women's college basketball, the South Carolina Athletic Department released a 174 00:08:16.759 --> 00:08:21.600 public apology to LSU. Two of the top programs in 175 00:08:21.680 --> 00:08:25.040 all of women's college basketball release a public apology to 176 00:08:25.199 --> 00:08:29.920 LSU and Starguard Flower J. Johnson regarding a song played 177 00:08:30.319 --> 00:08:33.399 in Colonial Life Arena at the end of the game 178 00:08:33.440 --> 00:08:36.799 between the number two game Cocks and the number five 179 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:39.440 LSU Tigers back on Friday. 180 00:08:39.960 --> 00:08:42.240 Long story short, The song that they. 181 00:08:42.159 --> 00:08:46.480 Played was to troll flow J Johnson because the song 182 00:08:47.120 --> 00:08:52.080 was written and performed by her late father who was murdered. 183 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:55.320 How did that happen? How did that manage to happen? 184 00:08:55.879 --> 00:08:58.480 I think this is a level of just trying too hard. 185 00:08:59.120 --> 00:09:02.039 DJ stroll all the time. Shout out to DJ Malski. 186 00:09:02.559 --> 00:09:05.559 He is the DJ for the La Sparks. Please do 187 00:09:05.639 --> 00:09:07.639 not fall down when you're on the court because he's 188 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:11.480 gonna play that gospel song we fall down, or if 189 00:09:11.480 --> 00:09:13.440 you miss a shot, he's gonna play brick House. 190 00:09:13.759 --> 00:09:16.960 He does troll, you know. He loves certain people. 191 00:09:17.000 --> 00:09:19.440 He'll play there for certain songs for them that he 192 00:09:19.480 --> 00:09:21.639 knows he'll get under their skin because they've mentioned it. 193 00:09:22.039 --> 00:09:25.360 He does troll other players from other teams. It makes 194 00:09:25.399 --> 00:09:29.000 the game fun, It really engages the crowd. However, this 195 00:09:29.120 --> 00:09:32.559 is a different situation. This is a situation where he 196 00:09:32.639 --> 00:09:34.360 played a song at the end of the game, so 197 00:09:34.399 --> 00:09:37.399 the trolling is done, they've already won, the game is over, 198 00:09:37.679 --> 00:09:40.639 but he played a song to troll her, specifically from 199 00:09:40.679 --> 00:09:43.840 a man who undoubtedly would have been the most important 200 00:09:43.879 --> 00:09:46.360 man in her life. Who she never met because he 201 00:09:46.399 --> 00:09:49.279 died six months before. He was murdered six months before 202 00:09:49.600 --> 00:09:53.440 she was even born. So she even a fan saw 203 00:09:53.440 --> 00:09:55.559 it and they did a laughing emoji about it, and 204 00:09:55.600 --> 00:09:58.000 she even posted it on her Instagram and said, you 205 00:09:58.000 --> 00:09:59.960 know what, I'll take my l but this isn't funny. 206 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:02.679 This is just nasty behavior. And I agree with that. 207 00:10:02.759 --> 00:10:05.399 I think that the level of trolling, it's going to 208 00:10:05.440 --> 00:10:07.480 get under the player's skin. It might even get under 209 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:10.240 the opposing fans skin's that's the fun of it. But 210 00:10:10.320 --> 00:10:12.799 this isn't fun because now you're calling up a memory 211 00:10:13.320 --> 00:10:15.799 of something that's very close to her and probably still 212 00:10:15.879 --> 00:10:17.200 causes her a great deal of pain. 213 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:20.360 I don't know what I would do if I were 214 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:24.279 in charge of that DJ or entertainment at the arena, 215 00:10:24.559 --> 00:10:27.799 but I would be inclined to fire that person. That's 216 00:10:27.879 --> 00:10:29.679 just something that's just way across the other side of 217 00:10:29.720 --> 00:10:30.320 the line. 218 00:10:30.559 --> 00:10:32.759 Yeah, I was disappointed they said they were only going 219 00:10:32.799 --> 00:10:34.679 to dispend her suspend her for one game. 220 00:10:34.879 --> 00:10:36.679 Now, listen, I might have co. 221 00:10:36.759 --> 00:10:39.960 Signed on the one game suspension had it not been 222 00:10:40.159 --> 00:10:43.519 for how she acted on social media, because that one 223 00:10:43.559 --> 00:10:45.960 fan that did a laughing moji about it. She said, 224 00:10:46.039 --> 00:10:48.720 my bad ha ha, And then you know, there was 225 00:10:48.799 --> 00:10:50.799 backlash that people were like, this is not okay. This 226 00:10:50.919 --> 00:10:53.240 is a very touchy subject. And then she said, if 227 00:10:53.240 --> 00:10:55.480 people are going to get mad, just let them. There 228 00:10:55.559 --> 00:10:57.919 was not an ounce of empathy or understanding of the 229 00:10:57.960 --> 00:11:00.320 situation on her behalf. And I'm just not going to 230 00:11:00.399 --> 00:11:02.519 have that individual representing my organization. 231 00:11:02.600 --> 00:11:03.480 I'm just not going to do it. 232 00:11:04.000 --> 00:11:07.919 What you talk about signifies forethought and malice. It wasn't 233 00:11:08.000 --> 00:11:11.159 like it was an accident, you know, laughing emoji. She 234 00:11:11.279 --> 00:11:13.600 knew exactly what she was doing. She knew that it 235 00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:16.639 will get a response. She played into that response on 236 00:11:16.759 --> 00:11:20.639 social media. There's no way that she could claim ignorance 237 00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:21.720 in any. 238 00:11:21.519 --> 00:11:22.000 Part of this. 239 00:11:22.600 --> 00:11:26.480 That to me says your ass needs to go because 240 00:11:26.519 --> 00:11:29.080 a lack of It's beyond the lack of judgment. 241 00:11:29.399 --> 00:11:31.679 It's a lack of good common sense. 242 00:11:31.799 --> 00:11:34.200 I know common sense ain't all that common, but there 243 00:11:34.200 --> 00:11:37.159 are some things, and especially this younger generation needs to 244 00:11:37.240 --> 00:11:40.559 learn that there are parameters and boundaries, and that's way 245 00:11:40.600 --> 00:11:42.960 on the other side of the boundary. I think there 246 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:46.240 should be actual consequences, and from what I've seen being 247 00:11:46.240 --> 00:11:48.679 suspended by for one game doesn't mean anything. 248 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:50.679 They got another fifteen to go right. 249 00:11:50.799 --> 00:11:52.200 Right, and it's a slap on the wrist. 250 00:11:52.320 --> 00:11:55.679 So for context, this isn't her dad, isn't Jay Z 251 00:11:56.440 --> 00:12:01.639 or Kendrick Lamar or Emmin. Most hip hop, most rap fans, 252 00:12:02.000 --> 00:12:04.279 unless you are a fan of Flage because she talks 253 00:12:04.279 --> 00:12:06.799 about him a lot, he inspires her music a lot. 254 00:12:07.120 --> 00:12:09.919 Unless you are a fan of her specifically, most rap 255 00:12:09.960 --> 00:12:12.639 and music fans have no idea who this person is. 256 00:12:12.919 --> 00:12:16.639 So there's a level of intentionality that is it's malice 257 00:12:16.720 --> 00:12:20.000 at best, you know, but it's it's mean, it's mean spirited, 258 00:12:20.039 --> 00:12:23.600 and it's hurtful. And what's crazy about situations like this 259 00:12:23.639 --> 00:12:27.200 to me always is if and when the situation was reversed, 260 00:12:27.639 --> 00:12:29.720 she would be the first one to talk about, Oh 261 00:12:29.799 --> 00:12:32.799 that wasn't that was inappropriate. People don't think about how 262 00:12:32.799 --> 00:12:34.679 it would affect them if it happened to them. They 263 00:12:34.759 --> 00:12:36.440 just try to get a rise. And to your point, 264 00:12:36.519 --> 00:12:38.240 I do think a lot of that comes from this, 265 00:12:38.519 --> 00:12:41.440 not only the young generation, but everything is clickbait now 266 00:12:41.720 --> 00:12:44.080 because for her, she's probably sitting back and even with 267 00:12:44.159 --> 00:12:47.120 the suspension, there are probably those who are saying, oh, man, 268 00:12:47.159 --> 00:12:49.639 come on it's a song, so it's still helping her 269 00:12:49.799 --> 00:12:52.080 social media stock. So I think a lot of it 270 00:12:52.159 --> 00:12:54.840 is done intentional and not given to the regards of 271 00:12:54.919 --> 00:12:56.919 this is a person, This is a human being who 272 00:12:56.919 --> 00:12:58.840 has real feelings, and this was over the top. 273 00:12:59.120 --> 00:13:00.600 And that's part of the reason why I didn't even 274 00:13:00.600 --> 00:13:02.519 mention the DJ's name, because I did not want her 275 00:13:02.519 --> 00:13:06.879 to get credit or any type of further notoriety for 276 00:13:06.960 --> 00:13:08.759 what she'd done. I think it's more important to talk 277 00:13:08.799 --> 00:13:11.639 about what she did as opposed to her name and 278 00:13:11.720 --> 00:13:14.879 who did it so she gets attribution. But there was 279 00:13:14.919 --> 00:13:17.960 a teachable moment in here for not only the DJ, 280 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:21.200 but also her friends, for also those who may follow 281 00:13:21.200 --> 00:13:23.559 her on social media, for also those who might have 282 00:13:23.639 --> 00:13:27.600 done something similar or thought something similar would have been funny. 283 00:13:27.879 --> 00:13:31.080 I can choose all sorts of other tragic events which 284 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:35.679 are quasi related to athletes, and we've seen it before, 285 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:39.120 especially when it comes to trolley athletes about their parents 286 00:13:39.679 --> 00:13:43.440 or their kids, and usually both are out of bounds. 287 00:13:43.720 --> 00:13:46.240 I don't know how and why we got here beyond 288 00:13:46.279 --> 00:13:48.840 social media, and that's not really a question, that's just 289 00:13:48.879 --> 00:13:50.879 a statement of fact, a fact. 290 00:13:50.960 --> 00:13:53.159 Yeah, I mean, I've been one of those ones who 291 00:13:53.200 --> 00:13:56.279 troll Patrick Mahomes about his brother. But it's funny because 292 00:13:56.279 --> 00:13:58.759 he's out there being ridiculous. This isn't a person that 293 00:13:58.799 --> 00:14:02.240 passed away. I'm not attacking his character. I don't talk 294 00:14:02.240 --> 00:14:05.720 about his mother because now you're talking about personal situations. 295 00:14:05.799 --> 00:14:07.840 And I think that if you don't love this person, 296 00:14:07.840 --> 00:14:10.000 if you don't know what it feels like to, in 297 00:14:10.039 --> 00:14:13.240 her case, love somebody that you've never even met, you 298 00:14:13.279 --> 00:14:13.919 can't even. 299 00:14:13.759 --> 00:14:15.600 Imagine how that moment felt for her. 300 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:18.440 And the fact that it's not even a thought, that 301 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:20.480 just close to show where we are as a society. 302 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:23.320 We genuinely don't care about each other. And that is 303 00:14:23.360 --> 00:14:24.559 a problem. 304 00:14:25.200 --> 00:14:29.799 No, that is the problem, because all other problems probably 305 00:14:29.879 --> 00:14:33.799 spiral from that one central problem. We do not care 306 00:14:33.919 --> 00:14:38.120 about each other at all. Jacuary very quickly before I 307 00:14:38.240 --> 00:14:40.000 let you go, what you're working on on the Jacuary 308 00:14:40.000 --> 00:14:41.879 Show and beyond, I. 309 00:14:41.799 --> 00:14:44.559 Am so excited if you've been following me on my 310 00:14:44.639 --> 00:14:49.000 journey at jackuatv on Instagram. There's a movement, there's an 311 00:14:49.080 --> 00:14:51.799 understanding that we live in an entirely different time and 312 00:14:51.799 --> 00:14:56.720 there are definitely different communities committees that have bound together 313 00:14:57.080 --> 00:14:59.759 and are here to try to fight Project twenty twenty five. 314 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:02.159 I've held off on doing my podcast because I wanted 315 00:15:02.200 --> 00:15:05.320 to report on these things. You can see my reporting 316 00:15:05.399 --> 00:15:07.480 on the people that came together of the lack of 317 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:10.039 black representation. I don't mean to laugh, but it's kind 318 00:15:10.039 --> 00:15:12.720 of funny, but there's a lack of black representation in 319 00:15:12.759 --> 00:15:14.559 the Martin Luther King Day Junior Parade. 320 00:15:14.600 --> 00:15:15.720 If you can imagine that. 321 00:15:15.879 --> 00:15:16.879 So I can. 322 00:15:17.519 --> 00:15:21.039 That's crazy to me, but that sparked this whole movement. 323 00:15:21.120 --> 00:15:23.879 And so please make sure you follow me at JACKIEATV 324 00:15:24.000 --> 00:15:26.720 dot com or at JACKIEATV on all things social media 325 00:15:27.159 --> 00:15:29.200 because there's going to be a lot of podcasts around that. 326 00:15:29.279 --> 00:15:32.759 And I to this exact point, it's been such a 327 00:15:32.759 --> 00:15:35.480 blessing to my heart to see people come together and 328 00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:38.039 really care about each other and care about the things 329 00:15:38.039 --> 00:15:40.399 that people are feeling and try to move an entirely 330 00:15:40.440 --> 00:15:43.200 different direction than our nation as a whole is moving 331 00:15:43.240 --> 00:15:45.039 right now. So it's a great thing. Shout out to 332 00:15:45.080 --> 00:15:47.279 Long Beach. It's great to see you guys right now, and. 333 00:15:47.240 --> 00:15:49.240 It's great to see you Jackie Ray as well. We'll 334 00:15:49.240 --> 00:15:50.360 see you again next week. 335 00:15:50.639 --> 00:15:53.000 It's later with Mo Kelly kf I A six forty 336 00:15:53.000 --> 00:15:55.720 Live everywhere the iHeartRadio app. And when we come back, 337 00:15:55.759 --> 00:15:57.840 we're going to get into your horoscope for this week. 338 00:15:58.600 --> 00:16:02.200 You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from 339 00:16:02.279 --> 00:16:04.120 KFI AM six forty. 340 00:16:04.679 --> 00:16:08.360 KFI Mister bo Kelly were Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 341 00:16:09.720 --> 00:16:14.080 Zodiac signs by the slice of pie. That is what 342 00:16:14.200 --> 00:16:20.039 pie are you? As per astrology, aries, you are cocaanut 343 00:16:20.080 --> 00:16:23.440 cream pie. Aris aligns with the heat born energy of 344 00:16:23.440 --> 00:16:26.639 cocaanut cream pie. Aries Folk are an impulsive lot, prone 345 00:16:26.679 --> 00:16:30.600 to betting big, spending large, and apologizing often in kind. 346 00:16:30.679 --> 00:16:33.399 The coconut cream pie was born from a debt ode 347 00:16:33.720 --> 00:16:38.000 and curiously repaid. Legend has it that in the nineteenth century, 348 00:16:38.279 --> 00:16:40.960 a Caribbean businessman sent a shipment of coconuts to a 349 00:16:40.960 --> 00:16:44.759 Philadelphia flour miller to settle the score between them. The 350 00:16:44.799 --> 00:16:47.919 miller took to shredding, trying and selling the coconut meat 351 00:16:48.240 --> 00:16:51.679 to bakers and homemakers, and before long the people of 352 00:16:51.759 --> 00:16:58.399 this sledgeling nation were streaming for coconut cream. Taurus pecan pie, 353 00:16:58.720 --> 00:17:01.399 rich and easy pecan is what the Taurus dreams are 354 00:17:01.440 --> 00:17:05.599 made of Taurus, folk love and unholy indulgence that requires 355 00:17:05.720 --> 00:17:09.519 very little effort to produce or procure. Enter the pecan pie, 356 00:17:09.599 --> 00:17:13.759 or better yet, the chocolate pecan pie. High af on 357 00:17:13.920 --> 00:17:16.720 corn syrup and sweet enough to make your teeth ache. 358 00:17:16.920 --> 00:17:19.119 This Southern staple can be made with less than ten 359 00:17:19.559 --> 00:17:23.119 Now this is grammatically incorrect, with fewer than ten ingredients, 360 00:17:23.319 --> 00:17:25.759 and is hot and ready and under an hour. Little 361 00:17:25.799 --> 00:17:29.240 stuff like that drives me just that shite crazy? 362 00:17:29.440 --> 00:17:30.759 Does it negatively impact you? 363 00:17:30.880 --> 00:17:31.039 Yes? 364 00:17:31.079 --> 00:17:36.279 It does? Okay, Gemini mark rhubarb pie. That's what you get, 365 00:17:36.359 --> 00:17:38.519 rubarb No, no, I'll accept that. 366 00:17:38.960 --> 00:17:41.920 Okay, This rubar pie is sour and sweet and only 367 00:17:42.000 --> 00:17:45.960 partially present, just like the average Gemini, emotionally unpredictable. 368 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:48.039 A look, that's what it says. 369 00:17:48.359 --> 00:17:52.880 Emotionally unpredictable, swinging wildly and daily from sweet to recalcitrant. 370 00:17:53.359 --> 00:17:55.279 Gemini is the sour patch kid of. 371 00:17:55.279 --> 00:17:58.759 The zodiac who could make an insult out a rubarb pie. 372 00:17:58.799 --> 00:18:03.519 This is no is insulting it. Whois rubarb pie? So far, 373 00:18:03.559 --> 00:18:05.319 it's been pretty accurate in kind. 374 00:18:05.359 --> 00:18:08.440 The rubar pie is a balance of the vegetable and 375 00:18:08.519 --> 00:18:11.359 the candy, the earthly and the sublime, the sweet and 376 00:18:11.440 --> 00:18:13.880 the bitter, and edible metaphor for life itself. 377 00:18:14.440 --> 00:18:17.720 Cancer stefan apple pie. 378 00:18:18.680 --> 00:18:21.720 Apple pie carries connotations of home, the natural habitat of 379 00:18:21.799 --> 00:18:25.680 cancer comfort seekers and nest makers. Cancer rules the fourth 380 00:18:25.720 --> 00:18:28.480 house of home and root systems, and nothing recalls a 381 00:18:28.519 --> 00:18:32.400 wholesome childhood or our commercial concept of it quite like 382 00:18:32.440 --> 00:18:36.000 apple pie. For cancers who prefer crumbs to lattice, i e. 383 00:18:36.079 --> 00:18:38.799 The ones who didn't get enough hugs or orthodonic attention 384 00:18:38.839 --> 00:18:41.759 as children. The Dutch apple pie is more in line 385 00:18:41.799 --> 00:18:46.920 with the sign I'll take it. Leo Lemon meringue pie. 386 00:18:48.920 --> 00:18:51.640 Meringue is to pie topping what a lush mane of 387 00:18:51.759 --> 00:18:55.720 hair or metaphorical crown is to the Leo native, absolutely 388 00:18:55.839 --> 00:18:59.279 essential to esthetics and spirit. Add to this that Leo 389 00:18:59.359 --> 00:19:02.039 season roar during the high heat of summer in the 390 00:19:02.039 --> 00:19:05.119 Northern Hemisphere, and Lemon meringue pie tastes like late July 391 00:19:05.480 --> 00:19:10.440 and it's known to soothe a sunburn. Virgo cherry pie 392 00:19:11.319 --> 00:19:14.160 fit for a queen and tart af cherry pie is 393 00:19:14.200 --> 00:19:17.400 the pastry of choice for Virgos. Brits are credited with 394 00:19:17.519 --> 00:19:20.400 inventing the cherry pie as an offering to the in 395 00:19:20.519 --> 00:19:24.559 real life virgin and apex Virgo herself, Queen Elizabeth the First. 396 00:19:25.720 --> 00:19:29.319 A natural redhead, Elizabeth's taste for sugar was so expansive 397 00:19:29.680 --> 00:19:31.359 it turned most of her teeth black. 398 00:19:31.640 --> 00:19:36.039 Wow. To clear that haunting visage from your mind's eye, 399 00:19:36.279 --> 00:19:39.920 it is recommended the guilty pleasure of Warrants, nineteen ninety 400 00:19:39.920 --> 00:19:42.400 Indie window heavy banger cherry Pie. 401 00:19:42.599 --> 00:19:47.839