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Speaker 1: This is David Burns from a film by podcast, and

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you are ready to be a part of the goddamn

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club and battled Dracula, Wolfman, the Mummy and other universal

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monsters with Sean Rudy Porus and the gang known as

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the Monster Squad. Well you're about to, so stay tuned

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and listen to the Shirley You Can't Be Serious Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Jason, yep? Question? Shoot, you know any virgins?

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Speaker 3: Got me?

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Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody to the Shirley you Can't Be Serious Podcast.

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Do you know any virgins? Are you sure?

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Speaker 3: Versions?

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Speaker 2: Well there's Steve, but he doesn't count and count guys.

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We are here for part two of our comparison of

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the movies teen Wolf and the Monster Squad, not to

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be confused with Monster Squad, some kind of weird seventies

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TV show where the monsters actually were the ones doing

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the crime fighting or whatever. Yeah, it was like Scooby

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Doo or something. Is a little weird, Yeah, a little weird.

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Speaker 1: Ye.

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Speaker 2: So we're back. We just got at our last episode.

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We just got done talking about casting for teen Wolf.

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Now we're going to talk about casting for the Monster Squad. Yes,

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what do you got? Give me? Man.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So first off, you got Andre Gower, he plays

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Sean Crenshaw. Can somebody tell me what the sam hell

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Speaker 2: Well, we answer, but who are you.

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Speaker 4: With a monster squad?

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Speaker 3: Yes, this kid was like in all the eighties TV shows.

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He was in Saint Elsewhere, a team, Night Rioter, Night Court. Yeah.

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He goes on to produce The Wolfman's Gotten Yards.

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Speaker 2: Wolfman's Gotten Nerds. Most famous quote from this movie. I

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think I probably saw it in the preview and I

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was like, I gotta go see that movie, which I did.

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I was I was one of the literally dozens of

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people who watched this movie in the theater. The tens

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of people literally does anyway. Yeah, so he, like you said,

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he directed the Wolfman'scott Nards documentary, because, as it turns out,

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in the theater and then it went away very quickly,

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and they all just were angry. The kid who played

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he had been in stuff. He was in Kids Incorporated

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want to I don't anybody to know about this. I

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don't have anybody to know I'm an actor. And he quit. Yeah.

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by the disappointment of this movie not doing anything, yeah,

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that he didn't want to talk about it. He didn't

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mention it to people he dated or met. He just

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put that away, right, and then compartmentalized.

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years later, people have been seeing this movie on HBO

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of this wink and nod like you know Monster Squad, Yeah,

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it's not it's not a good sign. Right, But this

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underground following just grew and grew, and there was this

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frustration because you couldn't get it on DVD. And this

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little documentary. He and some other folks lead the push

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the Monks Squad, he does have great pride that it

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what a great analogy that is, Like he made it,

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Speaker 3: It was one of those movies you remember a Friday

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it was his first deal. But he thought he got

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Speaker 3: Good buddies over at the Film By podcast.

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gonna go to dinner with them, Like it's like stepbrothers,

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like we did best friends now.

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Speaker 3: That is the first movie that has Hannibal Lecter in it.

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Speaker 2: Yep, it's really good. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And he plays the Red Dragon. I mean he's he's

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the killer.

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Speaker 2: He is known for playing monsters and killers. That's right.

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Speaker 3: Yeap, he got this part from that. By the way,

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Catherine Bigelow had watched Manhunter saw him as like, I

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have got to get him in my movie Near Dark.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's the other vampire movie of the late eighties.

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Speaker 3: Right, Bill Paxton, Jeanette Goldstein, who from.

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Speaker 2: All the alien movies.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the other guy guy who plays Bishop, like

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the three people from Aliens.

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Speaker 2: We're going to be in Near Dark.

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Speaker 3: And Catherine Bigelow was so intent on getting tom Noonan,

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like she would show up at the monster squad like

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filming nice and he said no, I told you no.

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She's like, no, I'm not leaving until you say yes.

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And he's sill. Said, now, all right, let's talk about

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Brent Challim for a second.

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Speaker 2: Okay, he's the guy who plays horse.

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Speaker 4: Man's Got.

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Speaker 3: Fat Kid.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, his character is referred to as fat Kid, not Horace.

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And it's terrible. It's terrible to watch that. And I

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mean even his friends like a fat kid farted. I mean,

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it's just it's awful. It is, it's terrible. It's painful

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to watch, Yes, it really is.

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Speaker 3: The really painful though thing though, is that he never

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lived long enough to see the Monster Squad's success, and he.

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Speaker 2: Has probably short of well, he's got both of the

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most memorable lines in the movie. He's wolf Man's Got Narch,

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that's him and then my name, my name is Horace. Yeah,

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heck yeah, yeah. Tragically he you know, as he got older.

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so he was, yeah, twenty one to two something like that. Yeah,

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he had some he had some asthma problems. Then he

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got pneumonia and that he was in the hospital for

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a while. They had a little canula. They sent him

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home with oxygen the canula. Canula came out. He was

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in bad shape. They rushed him back to the hospital

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and then in the er they gave him some medicine

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that they should not have given him. That with his

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asthma basically ended his life. And so you know, like

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family called in say goodbye, he's not gonna make it.

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And yeah, tragically, unlike the other kids who like thought

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this movie was terrible and then found out later that

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everybody loves it, he didn't never get to find that out.

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So it's tragic, given that he's got the two best

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lines in the movie. It is tragic.

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Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, I wanted to mention Ryan Lambert,

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the guy who played Rudy.

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Speaker 2: I'm in the Damn Club ar. Yeah, okay, he was

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in Kids Incorporate. He's incorporated and you sent me a

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picture today and blue my socks on. Yeah, because you

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know who else was in Kids Incorporated? Fergie Fergie Yeah,

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from Black Eyed Peas. Yeah, it's like they were, like

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I showed you the picture. They're there together, they played

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the they played the kids songs in the kid Club together.

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That's incredible. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Do you know that he is an ordained minister.

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Speaker 2: I know that he's an ordained minister. And I also

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known that he presided over the wedding of you go

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ahead and say it. I know you know it. Freak stallone,

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no no, no needle drop for barking right now, Oh

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my gosh. All right.

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Speaker 3: Uh. You also have Michael Faustina, who plays Eugene. He

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was in Blank Check and Suburban Commando.

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Speaker 2: Blank Check, blank Check, the Blake Snyderscript, the guy who

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wrote to Save the Cat.

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Speaker 3: That's right, Yeah, that's right, all right, And now we're

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getting to some people I actually know. Jonathan Greese plays

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the Wolfman, yes, or Desperate Man as it says.

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Speaker 2: Yes, because they had to be careful because they didn't

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have rights to the Universal monsters. Right. Yeah, But we

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just talked about him a little bit early. It was

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earlier this year, right, we did Real Genius Versus Weird Science,

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and he of course plays as low as Low. That's it.

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Speaker 3: He plays las Low. He was also in Running Scared.

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He's one of the detectives and Runing Scared.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 3: And also Napoleon Dynamite Uncle Rico.

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Speaker 2: He's Uncle Rico. So I could throw this football over

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that mountain.

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Speaker 3: Thing's funny. Man, he's great, you know in this he's

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a little over the top when he's like, arrest me,

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arrest me, you know, and they end up having a

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shoot him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So Mary Ellen Trainer is the mom.

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Speaker 2: She's in so many things. We talked about this, so

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many things she's in. Obviously, she's in Lethal Weapons. She's

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the mom in the Goonies, which is I mean, it's

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just an ironic crossover here.

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Speaker 3: And you'll be in deep, the absolute deepest mine. That's it.

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Speaker 4: I don't like her.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, she's in lethal Weapon. She's in die Hard. Okay,

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hang on, hang which we compared, by the way, in

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a Christmas episode in our season one, season two. I

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can't remember one of those two. Go check that one

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out this Christmas.

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Speaker 3: Yes, let's let's look at her resume. Leth a Weapon,

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die Hard, Goonies, Romance in the Stone for Scooged, Scrooged

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for Scumpum Forest Gumpe.

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Speaker 2: She's the friend of Genny who drops little Forest off.

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She's like, I gotta go, gotta run and walks out

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the door like she's that she's for that long. But

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that's her.

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Speaker 3: You know why she's married to Robertchis.

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Speaker 2: Yes. Of course, by the.

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Speaker 3: Way, she plays John Wilder's sister in romantic instance.

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Speaker 2: John Wilder Joan Wilder, I really tell.

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Speaker 3: You movies, Okay, Yes, And of course she's in Scrooged

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I ask you hot or not hot? You said not hot,

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Bill Murray still chasing her skirt and Scrooge right.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Then you have Leonardo Semino. Okay, Leonardo Semino as scary

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German guy.

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Speaker 2: Ah yes, yeah, yeah, the guy that you think is

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the bad guy but ends up being the best, most

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likable character in the movie. Yep.

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Speaker 3: One other guy that I want to bring up to

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you Jason Hervey.

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Speaker 2: Jason Hervey from the Wonder Years and who we just

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talked about in Peewee's Big Adventure. That's right, I was ready.

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Speaker 3: I've been ready.

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Speaker 2: Roll Okay, tell me this. In that last scene in

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the Monster Squad when he and that other kid, whoever

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the other other kid is, you know, because he's the bully,

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right j Yeah, yeah, he's hiding. Won't let Horace into

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the really as as the gild Man is coming up. Right.

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He's wearing a jersey, Yeah he is?

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Speaker 3: Is it?

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Speaker 2: Is it? Walter Walter, which, of course Fred Savage who

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is also in the Wonder Years with him. That's he's

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wearing Walter Payton jersey in the Princess Princess. That's a

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I love it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, here's my nugget I'm ready to drop

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on you. So you have Lisa Fuller who plays Lisa Rhodes. Okay, yes,

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and that's the version, the non version, that's your sister majors. Right, yeah,

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here's my here's my nugget. Okay, totally nobody else cares

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about that but me, you and maybe a couple of

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guys who went to Shirley Fast. Okay, her husband you

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know his name, married a guy. His name is Dan Goutier.

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Speaker 2: Is he spelled like our friend, he spells it Gothier? Yep? Nice,

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here it does there you go?

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Speaker 3: So apparently a little French thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very nice. Okay.

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Speaker 3: And then also the only other thing I was going

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to bring up to you is you have Tom Woodruff Junior,

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who plays Gilman.

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Speaker 2: All Right, you know what that ties in perfectly to

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what we're going to talk about next, which is special effects. Right,

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and just again, you know I said this in our

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first the first part of this comparison. I feel like

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we had a movie that shouldn't have made it but

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did because of master marketing, master marketing, and I have

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and we have a movie that should have made it

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but didn't, which I think was also due to terrible marketing, right,

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Monster Squad, what do they do? They they put wanted

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posters of the monsters up as they're advertising. Like, that's

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the worst idea I've ever heard. I mean, this is

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the late eighties. You've got all of these you got goonies,

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you got all of these John Hughes movies. This is

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this They've got a very Spielberg style of this movie.

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You advertise it like.

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Speaker 5: That, and then not to mention, you've got the guy

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who wrote freaking Lethal Weapon as the writer of this movie.

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You say, from the writer of Lethal Weapon, and you

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show the you show the trailer, whereas Wolfman's got arts.

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That is what That is the way you market this movie.

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Not wanted posters of the Mummy and gil Man. And

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they were terribly drawn, Like yeah.

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Speaker 2: They're not even faith Yeah, it was like a pencil drawing.

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It was. It was very, very bad. But anyway, just

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to emphasize my point of this movie should have made it.

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The guy who was in charge of special effects for

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this movie, Stan freaking Winston wins He's a mass icon, right,

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He's just an icon star Wars. I mean he's the guy,

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you know, the gopher on Caddyshack, lest we forget, go

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back and check out our Caddyshack versus Happy Gilmour episode.

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And so anyway, stan Winston's in charge. They don't have

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the rights to the monster movies. All these guys that

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he's got to work on it with him, they're like, oh, man,

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you know, we wanted to make the monsters like. We

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can still make the monsters, they just can't look like

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exact right. And so Frankenstein in the Monster Squad has

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the bolts on his head instead of his neck, and

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a lot of this is stan Winston's drawings, right. Dracula

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is kind of a classic look of Dracula, not very

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bela Legosi at all. And then Creature from the Black Lagoon.

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They never call him that, they call him gil Man.

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Wolfman is like a combination of a whole because there

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were a ton of where Wolf movies in that time period.

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The one he looked most like to me was the

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Oliver Reed, like the Curse of the Wolf Man. He

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had that, you know, the torn white shirt and the

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jeans on it. Just it looked like that to me.

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So anyway, you get all of these guys doing makeup

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and one of those guys is Tom Woodroff junior, right,

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and so he's he and they all have gone on

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to become great famous makeup artists in their own right,

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but they're new guys at this point. But he had

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made a body cast for himself just so that he

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could put different things on it, but it was his

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own body, right, And so they get to the point

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that they're like, hey, we're we need to do the

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Gillman costume, which is another couple of guys was doing.

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He was working on Frankenstein. And he's like, well, I've

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got my body mold, you can use that. And so

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they they put the costume, which is I mean a

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one piece deal for Gilman, on the mold that Tom

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Woodroff had created out of his own body, right. And

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so once he sees the costume, he's like, I never

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do this, But I pushed and I said, Stan, I

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want to be the guy. I want to be the Gilman.

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You're not gonna see my face. I'll have everything on.

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I don't really know. It's good. Ida's like police, And

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so they let the guy, the guy who did the

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makeup for Frankenstein was the guy who played Gilman. It

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was one piece suit there was no exit holes.

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Speaker 5: I love it.

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Speaker 2: No peeing. You can't pee, and the first thing that

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you do is you go in the ice cold water. Yeah,

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he said he fell shot all day. He was exhausted,

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went back to his trailer, fell asleep in the costume,

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and woke up not remembering that he was still in

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the costume. And it was like a panic attack. It's like,

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you got to calm yourself down. What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you're talking special effects and this is

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00:22:41,559 --> 00:22:44,079
the eighties, this is before CGI. You know, you had

468
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,640
to kind of conform to the demands in the suit.

469
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,359
So it's a one piece suit and it's it looks

470
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,160
super cool, Like I love the Gilman outfit in this

471
00:22:52,559 --> 00:22:55,480
the Wolfman can't move his he has no movement in

472
00:22:55,559 --> 00:22:57,720
his neck. He looks a little stiff. But I really

473
00:22:57,839 --> 00:23:01,079
like Gilman. I think Frankenstein's great. Them is awesome. But

474
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,319
I also flipped back to Team Wolf for a second.

475
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,880
The guys who did the makeup and special effects over there.

476
00:23:06,039 --> 00:23:08,440
When they would put Michael J. Fox and Jeff Glossman

477
00:23:08,599 --> 00:23:11,519
in the Wolf, they had to drink milkshakes all day

478
00:23:11,759 --> 00:23:13,839
because and I thought this is really weird. I thought

479
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,039
it was like, you couldn't get big. It's because if

480
00:23:16,079 --> 00:23:18,279
you chew, you're messing up all the makeup. It just

481
00:23:18,519 --> 00:23:20,680
stuff just begins to fall off your face, right, And

482
00:23:20,759 --> 00:23:23,119
he said, on top of that sweating which they were

483
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,720
doing in the basketball arena, you know, it absorbed sweat.

484
00:23:25,799 --> 00:23:28,039
So it's like he's like, any time of the day

485
00:23:28,039 --> 00:23:32,200
you could go just be squored out sweat. So they

486
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,799
couldn't eat anything, just milkshakes, and then it was still

487
00:23:35,839 --> 00:23:37,920
a challenge to keep it all on his face. Jeff

488
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,119
Glossman said they were playing basketball one day. He went up,

489
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,839
got a rebound turn and a guy he caught a

490
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,319
stray elbow and it messed everything up and they had

491
00:23:47,319 --> 00:23:49,759
to shut it down just to reapply the makeouks.

492
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so we're about to get in sounds like

493
00:23:52,279 --> 00:23:54,440
special effects for teen Wolf. But just before we go,

494
00:23:54,519 --> 00:23:58,359
there two guys that we haven't mentioned. John Rosngrant and

495
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:04,359
Shane Mayhan were both involved with Monster Squad. Rosengrant did

496
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:09,519
the Wolfman costume. Shane Mayhan did the Mummy costume. By

497
00:24:09,559 --> 00:24:11,400
the way, Mummy played by the guy who was the

498
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:16,279
skinny guy in Batman and Robin the Bane before he

499
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:21,480
became big same guy anyway, those two guys, Rosenngrant and Mayhan.

500
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,160
Both of those guys went on to work together on

501
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,720
Avatar The Way of Water. There you go. Yeah, I

502
00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:29,960
love that movie. Yeah, oddly neither one of them did Gilman.

503
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,720
I don't know how that worked anyway. So back over,

504
00:24:33,319 --> 00:24:36,759
jump back into Teen Wolf special effects. Alex P. Keaton's

505
00:24:36,759 --> 00:24:39,319
putting yak hair on his face and wondering why he's

506
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,319
gonna be high school monster movie instead of with crazy

507
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,359
Crispin over at that Steven Spielberg movie. Yes for sure.

508
00:24:47,799 --> 00:24:50,799
Speaker 3: Okay, So the three main people responsible for the effects

509
00:24:50,839 --> 00:24:53,440
for Teen Wolf, yep, you have Thomas Berman, you have

510
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,440
Jeff Dawn, and you have Kyle Sweet.

511
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,640
Speaker 2: Okay, I give you info in two of those.

512
00:24:57,839 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got the third one, I think.

513
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 2: Okay. Thomas Berman first job in Hollywood, and he was

514
00:25:05,079 --> 00:25:08,599
uncredited for this, but was planned the apes nineteen sixty eight.

515
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,640
He was putting yak hair on people's faces again, right,

516
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,440
and then he goes on to do a lot of stuff.

517
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:19,240
Does Invasion of the Body Snatchers the old like nineteen

518
00:25:19,319 --> 00:25:22,920
seventy eight one with Donald Sutherland in it? Right? Does

519
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,680
Scrooged actually gets nominated, if not won the Oscar for

520
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:31,240
the makeup on Scrooge. And a year after this came out,

521
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,279
he did the makeup for Howard the Duck.

522
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,039
Speaker 3: Wow, that's a movie.

523
00:25:37,079 --> 00:25:37,559
Speaker 2: We gotta do.

524
00:25:37,799 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 3: What the heck happened on at some point?

525
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 2: Absolutely so. The other guy you mentioned was Jeff Dawn. Now,

526
00:25:42,319 --> 00:25:46,119
Jeff down did the special effects for Terminator two, which

527
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,799
we talked about, did the special effects for Total Recall,

528
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,759
which we talked with the thirty something movie guys about

529
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,440
like four years ago. I think the heck, that may

530
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,680
have been twenty twenty. That might have been that long ago.

531
00:25:58,799 --> 00:26:00,480
That was a long time ago. Go guy, go check

532
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,160
out the thirty something movie podcasts. Are good thoughts over there,

533
00:26:03,319 --> 00:26:06,839
lots of good stuff. ILLINOI contingent over there, yep. And

534
00:26:07,559 --> 00:26:11,279
for our friend and just an awesome dude, Chuck Bryan,

535
00:26:11,759 --> 00:26:14,960
he's over there at the Cinematic Flashback podcast. Good check.

536
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,400
Be sure and check that one out. Jeff Don did

537
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:22,480
the makeup for Star Trek for the Voyage Home. It's

538
00:26:22,519 --> 00:26:22,880
a good one.

539
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, I got a little bit for you

540
00:26:25,039 --> 00:26:25,960
on Kyle Sweet.

541
00:26:26,559 --> 00:26:29,279
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, Kyle Sweet. Kyle is there like an R

542
00:26:29,319 --> 00:26:31,920
and b guy named Kyle Sweet. I don't know anyway,

543
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,920
go ahead, Kyle Sweet is actually a woman? Oh okay?

544
00:26:36,279 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 3: And no, no, Kyle Kyle Okay, and she's pretty pretty

545
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:42,079
hot woman.

546
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 2: Really. I wonder if she goes to the Kyle Convention

547
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,920
every year. Did you know that there's a convention of

548
00:26:48,039 --> 00:26:52,160
Kyle's what? Yes, like like guys, because I didn't know

549
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,160
they were a girl's named Kyle. They all get like,

550
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,240
I have that this big convention. If your name is Kyle,

551
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:57,559
you can go to the Kyle Convention.

552
00:26:57,759 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 3: I imagine she would be pretty popular at the Kyle Convention.

553
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 2: Okay, okay.

554
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,759
Speaker 3: So she did makeup work on Night of the Creeps,

555
00:27:05,279 --> 00:27:07,559
which of course is a Fred Decker movie. Right, so

556
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,079
she had done nine of the Creeps. Here's the interesting

557
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,680
thing about Kyle Sweet. In one of the scenes where

558
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,240
the space Slugs get a guy a Night of the Creeps,

559
00:27:15,319 --> 00:27:17,599
you can see graffiti on the bathroom wall that says

560
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,400
Striper rules like the rock group Striper.

561
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,039
Speaker 2: The Christian rock Christian heavy hair metal.

562
00:27:24,279 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 3: Hey, I like Stripper had an album we Know Your History. Yeah,

563
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:33,079
but she married Michael Sweet, who is the lead singer

564
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:33,640
of Stripper.

565
00:27:33,759 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 5: Ah.

566
00:27:34,599 --> 00:27:35,319
Speaker 2: Well, there you go.

567
00:27:35,559 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 3: That's why you have these stripper striper rules. There you go.

568
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:43,799
Speaker 2: Great, good story. Okay. So the composer for the Monster Squad, yeah,

569
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,200
guy named Bruce Broughton. Pretty sure that we brought him

570
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,839
up before because he was the composer for Tombstone, I mean,

571
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,759
among many other one. Okay, but anyway, I don't know

572
00:27:53,839 --> 00:27:56,200
that the score of this movie particularly stuck out to me.

573
00:27:56,279 --> 00:27:58,119
It's good, it does what it's supposed to do, but

574
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,400
it didn't register. But it's not supposed to.

575
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 3: I don't know.

576
00:28:00,799 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 2: It's good.

577
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 3: It's good enough, right yeah, well, no, not so much.

578
00:28:05,319 --> 00:28:06,839
But I do have a little tidbit for you on

579
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,680
the music of the Monster Squad. Okay, so there's two

580
00:28:09,759 --> 00:28:11,160
songs I want to bring up to you in the

581
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,079
Monster Squard. One is called rock until You Drop, not

582
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,079
rock Rock until you Drop. You know that's a deaf

583
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:34,640
leverd song. Okay, Rock until you Drop? And the Monsters

584
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:35,839
Squad rap.

585
00:28:43,799 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 5: Stop there.

586
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 2: We'll stand up for the right on the mouth comes down? Yes, right, yeah,

587
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,400
I remember that. Okay.

588
00:28:56,599 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 3: Now, both of these were performed by a guy named

589
00:28:59,039 --> 00:29:02,039
Michael Simbelo. Okay, does that name ring a bell to you?

590
00:29:02,559 --> 00:29:06,079
Speaker 2: It does? But I don't remember from what he had.

591
00:29:06,079 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 3: A massive one hit wonder from the eighties that I'm

592
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:10,759
gonna play.

593
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:11,119
Speaker 4: For you right now.

594
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:22,599
Speaker 2: Okay, recognize this one. Yeah, this is She's a maniac

595
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,079
like this is. I have two songs from the movie

596
00:29:26,119 --> 00:29:28,880
Flash Dance on my phone and this is one of them.

597
00:29:29,279 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 3: She's a maniac, dude.

598
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 2: This is a great song, I know.

599
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,119
Speaker 3: Michael Simbello, Wow about that.

600
00:29:34,319 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: That's a good one. All right, good one. Okay. So

601
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,039
we're gonna talk music from teen Wolf. The only thing

602
00:29:39,079 --> 00:29:41,400
I got for you on the music from teen Wolf

603
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,920
Beach Boys. Beach Boys, You've got the massive Surfing USA drop,

604
00:29:46,359 --> 00:29:48,759
and you know, you know that some idiots were out

605
00:29:48,759 --> 00:29:50,920
there surfing on the top of vans after this. I

606
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,440
wonder if there's anybody with, like, you know, a vegetable

607
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,960
in a chair now because they decided to band surf. Sorry,

608
00:29:56,039 --> 00:29:59,400
please don't call the show that's you. I mean, not

609
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:04,920
that you could, you know, going straight to hell for

610
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,920
that one. Okay.

611
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,599
Speaker 3: So, yes, you have the massive Beach Boys needle drop,

612
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,680
where a whole new generation is exposed to surfing USA.

613
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,839
Hello Deaf Dave love it the song they really wanted

614
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,880
for this movie but didn't get because they couldn't afford it, Okay,

615
00:30:21,119 --> 00:30:23,400
and I imagine it's because they had landed surf in

616
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,240
USA and didn't have anything left over. They want to

617
00:30:26,279 --> 00:30:27,119
wear Wolves of London.

618
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of expected it to be there. Yeah,

619
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,880
they got some similar They have some similar sounding songs,

620
00:30:33,079 --> 00:30:35,599
like when he comes in for the dance. That song

621
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,359
has a very Werewolves of London vibe to it. Yeah.

622
00:30:38,599 --> 00:30:42,799
Speaker 3: I heard Susan Rcetti talking about she believes that the

623
00:30:43,079 --> 00:30:45,839
closing song when he hits the free throw at the

624
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,599
end of the movie and you have that the needle

625
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:54,240
drop of that crappy, sappy song, She's like, I feel

626
00:30:54,279 --> 00:30:56,559
like that could have been a hit, you know. And

627
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,839
I was like, no boof no, no hu to me,

628
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,960
there's a few problems that I have with Teen Wolf, Yeah,

629
00:31:04,359 --> 00:31:07,319
and that is one of them. The song at the

630
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:08,319
end sucks.

631
00:31:08,599 --> 00:31:11,279
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, all right, that's that's fair. I thought you

632
00:31:11,359 --> 00:31:14,359
were gonna say something about the opposing player standing underneath

633
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,000
the goal while you shoot. That is the technical foul

634
00:31:17,079 --> 00:31:17,680
free throws.

635
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,759
Speaker 3: Listen, the fact that that there's a werewolf playing basketball

636
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,240
got no problem with no problems the opposing player standing

637
00:31:25,319 --> 00:31:26,960
underneath the basket while you shooting free throw at the

638
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,680
end of the game. Can't happen.

639
00:31:28,839 --> 00:31:33,119
Speaker 2: It's not right breaking the rules. I have seen some

640
00:31:33,359 --> 00:31:36,079
crazier stuff go down in high school games. I promise

641
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,480
you that, and the ref just let it happen. That's ridiculous,

642
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,119
it is. Yeah, yeah, okay, well, okay, before we before

643
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,559
we move on, I just want it there. It's a

644
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,359
couple of things. There's that thing, and there's this huge thing.

645
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,119
And I'm gonna look at you guys, because you've probably

646
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,519
if you're familiar at all with Teen Wolf, you're probably

647
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:59,319
familiar with that very last closing scene, just as it's

648
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,200
freeze from and the credits start to roll. Let's talk

649
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,640
just before that, somebody pointed out at some point when

650
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,480
you've got the VCR tape or the DVD or whatever,

651
00:32:08,759 --> 00:32:13,400
you're like, there's a dude standing up and his pants

652
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,839
are unbuttoned and it looks like his johnson might be out. Yeah,

653
00:32:18,039 --> 00:32:21,599
and like it's gone on like that. Everybody's looked at

654
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,440
it carefully, like, dude, that could be it. But you know,

655
00:32:23,519 --> 00:32:26,519
it's framed in such a way that it's not in focus, right, it's.

656
00:32:26,559 --> 00:32:29,119
Speaker 3: Right behind Michael J. Fox and James Hampton.

657
00:32:29,319 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: Literally the last scene in motion of the movie stands

658
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,799
up and they're like buttoning on their pants. Right, So

659
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,480
there's this big controversy to this guy have his wang

660
00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:43,200
out as they're filming this len and they missed it

661
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,680
and name you mean my waning? They missed it and

662
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,160
left it in the movie. There's the penis in the movie.

663
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,720
So these guys went to do some investigation, right, they

664
00:32:53,839 --> 00:32:55,359
really wanted to find out. They tried to find out

665
00:32:55,359 --> 00:32:57,039
who the actors were in the scene, couldn't find it,

666
00:32:57,079 --> 00:33:00,160
couldn't find who who the extras were until.

667
00:33:00,359 --> 00:33:01,799
Speaker 3: I will tell you this before you tell us the

668
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:06,160
until the editor of the movie. Yeah, got lit up

669
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,519
by the director like how could you?

670
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,839
Speaker 2: How could you miss that? Right?

671
00:33:11,119 --> 00:33:13,319
Speaker 3: And she's like, dude, what are you talking about?

672
00:33:13,359 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 2: You're the one who shot you right there?

673
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:16,839
Speaker 5: I wasn't that right.

674
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 3: This signing of blame was was kind.

675
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: Of hard on. And so these guys do an investigation.

676
00:33:23,319 --> 00:33:27,559
They find the original negative and it turns out that

677
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,039
they filmed it in a different ratio than you actually

678
00:33:31,119 --> 00:33:33,200
see it. What the ratio they filmed it in is

679
00:33:33,319 --> 00:33:36,359
taller than what we got. They cut it down, and

680
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,160
so what they were able to do was lift back

681
00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:43,279
up and see who that person was. And I can

682
00:33:43,359 --> 00:33:45,160
promise you she didn't have her cout.

683
00:33:48,759 --> 00:33:50,519
Speaker 3: Yes, it's very clearly a woman.

684
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: It's a lady. It's not a guy at all. And

685
00:33:53,279 --> 00:33:55,839
maybe she had her pants undone. I mean they were

686
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,200
tight jeans back in those days, and they were mom jeans.

687
00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,839
They gotta be cutting into You tell me when you've

688
00:33:59,839 --> 00:34:04,880
been filming all day long unploated and some unbuttoned after lunch, man, Yeah,

689
00:34:05,079 --> 00:34:06,440
we've all been there. Yeah.

690
00:34:07,559 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 3: So I love that we discussed it. We can kind

691
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,639
of put that one that that to bed. That is

692
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:18,239
an urban myth. It is not really some guy exposing himself. Right, Okay,

693
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,639
I've got a couple of tidbits on Teen Wolf. Are

694
00:34:20,679 --> 00:34:21,519
we ready for tidbits?

695
00:34:21,559 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 2: Let's do it all right.

696
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 3: So, one of the mistakes that Jeff Loeb felt about

697
00:34:28,039 --> 00:34:30,639
Teen Wolf, he said, there's one mistake that I would

698
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,639
totally change if I could. I don't know if you

699
00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:36,000
remember it, but they're at the bowling Alley and Mick,

700
00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:38,920
who's trying to bully Scott as the wolf, trying to

701
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,840
make him mad. He mentions the fact that he basically

702
00:34:43,039 --> 00:34:48,840
murdered his mother. Yeah, he talked about how robbing the

703
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,440
chicken check or whatever, and he's like, you know that

704
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:52,320
was too much.

705
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,199
Speaker 2: Yeah. I guess probably when I was a kid, I thought, oh,

706
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,679
that's really what happened to his mom. As a grown

707
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,159
up watching this, I thought, that's just something that he's

708
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,360
just saying just to goat him. He's I mean, he's

709
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,320
clearly going him. I mean, we know what happens with

710
00:35:06,679 --> 00:35:09,079
with wolf people they turned back into humans. He would

711
00:35:09,079 --> 00:35:12,599
have been guilty of murder. Also, how likely is it

712
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:17,800
that a wolf man married a wolf woman? Now that's right? Yeah?

713
00:35:18,559 --> 00:35:21,079
Speaker 3: Uh so he still gets like people come up to

714
00:35:21,159 --> 00:35:23,639
and ask him, did Mick murder Scott's money?

715
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,679
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, okay, all right.

716
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,079
Speaker 3: There was also a cut scene from Teen Wolf I

717
00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:30,960
want to bring up to you, okay, and I think

718
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,320
it could have changed the whole tone of the movie, right, right,

719
00:35:33,599 --> 00:35:37,320
So they had a dream sequence where Scott as the

720
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:38,800
wolf appeared on Johnny Carson.

721
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, right. Yeah.

722
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 3: The problem with that is is that the director Rob Daniel. Yeah,

723
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,440
he said, we can't take it out of the bubble,

724
00:35:46,599 --> 00:35:49,920
like this can't be bigger than life. All right, because

725
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,400
everybody would be at the high school. I mean, it's

726
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,400
just it has to be. You have to have this

727
00:35:54,639 --> 00:35:57,559
at the school. It's a werewolf playing basketball and that's it.

728
00:35:57,679 --> 00:35:59,960
He can't go on Johnny Carson, No, that would be okay,

729
00:36:00,159 --> 00:36:00,880
Yeah I can.

730
00:36:01,199 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 2: I can see that this needs to be in its

731
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:03,440
own world. Yeah.

732
00:36:03,559 --> 00:36:06,039
Speaker 3: Yes, I got another story for you, a tidbit from

733
00:36:06,679 --> 00:36:09,079
maybe a tid note. I can't decide if it's a

734
00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:09,880
tid note or tidbit.

735
00:36:10,039 --> 00:36:10,159
Speaker 2: Right.

736
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:16,519
Speaker 3: So Jerry Levine, of course is Styles. Yes, he's been

737
00:36:16,559 --> 00:36:18,880
around the world and people have recognized him as Styles.

738
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,960
He was at the Whaling Wall in Jerusalem and somebody

739
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:27,239
came up to me, like, Styles, right, But here's the funny.

740
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,079
Speaker 2: Jewish I don't know. Keep going, you're asking me questions.

741
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,360
So what are Jewish? Don't dig on swine man? What

742
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:42,159
about workshops? Bacon tastes good, workshops day is good? Anyway,

743
00:36:42,199 --> 00:36:42,760
go ahead. Sorry.

744
00:36:43,119 --> 00:36:45,559
Speaker 3: So he was at a billige old concert in the

745
00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:48,880
Hollywood Bowl, okay, and he's like, you know, I was there.

746
00:36:49,159 --> 00:36:51,239
I was just there to see a billage old concert.

747
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,039
And he's like, I don't really know if they know

748
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,360
Styles is in the house. Or not until all of

749
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,280
a sudden, I realize Styles is in the house, right,

750
00:37:01,039 --> 00:37:04,920
So Billy Joel breaks out into a rendition of Surfing USA,

751
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,760
and he's like, everybody around him starts going pointing at

752
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,440
him like, oh my god. He's like and he realized

753
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,280
everybody standing around him knew he was Styles, yes, and

754
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:15,800
basically wanted him to.

755
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,639
Speaker 2: Dance, to do the surf, to do the surf dance.

756
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 3: Oh wow, he said. He gave him a little something. Okay,

757
00:37:24,599 --> 00:37:29,159
gave him a little something, yeah, which is hilarious. And

758
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,519
then okay, so they filmed this, as we said in

759
00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:34,519
South Pasadena. Director Rod Daniel kind of came up with

760
00:37:34,559 --> 00:37:36,480
a wild idea like, no, we've got to move this

761
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,519
to Nebraska. This is said in Nebraska. Okay, did you

762
00:37:39,519 --> 00:37:40,800
know it said in Nebraska. I did not know it

763
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,960
said in Nebraska. The only thing I could tell was

764
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,480
from Nebraska is there's a bumper sticker in the coach's

765
00:37:46,039 --> 00:37:49,519
office that said Husker Power. Okay, that's the only thing

766
00:37:49,559 --> 00:37:50,960
that really ties it to Nebraska.

767
00:37:51,159 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 2: All right.

768
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:53,679
Speaker 3: So he's like, we got to move this whole thing

769
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,519
in Nebraska, and they're like, no, we can just do

770
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,719
Pasadena's right, here with you know, no, we got it,

771
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,079
and so he finally they they were kind of fought

772
00:38:01,119 --> 00:38:03,239
him on it. He's like, well, let me go spend

773
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,000
a week in Nebraska and see what we can do

774
00:38:05,079 --> 00:38:07,760
in Nebraska. Okay, so like, fine, go to Nebraska, go

775
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,639
check it out. If you really feel strong about it,

776
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,599
let us know. So he went and, like the director

777
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,320
like went to like high school parties and stuff, and

778
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,079
so he's like checking out high school parties, right, Okay.

779
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,039
When he comes back, he's like, fine, we don't have

780
00:38:21,079 --> 00:38:24,079
to go to Nebraska. And they're like, right, that's what

781
00:38:24,199 --> 00:38:24,719
we thought too.

782
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

783
00:38:25,519 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 3: He's like, but I want to add some stuff to

784
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,760
teen Wolf and they're like, what is it. He's like,

785
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,920
I went to this party and they played like two

786
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,559
minutes in the closet, like no rules, and he's like

787
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,960
they're like, yeah, okay, that's good. And he's like and

788
00:38:39,039 --> 00:38:41,159
they had this other game where you had to like

789
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,800
you pour jello down somebody's shirt, and I was like,

790
00:38:45,199 --> 00:38:46,800
these kids in Nebraska, what are they doing?

791
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,199
Speaker 2: Man? Well I got to wonder, like, how does a

792
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:55,000
guy in his what probably early thirties maybe show up

793
00:38:55,039 --> 00:38:57,239
at a high school party and they're just cool with it,

794
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,840
I know, right, Like, hey, watch us throw a jello

795
00:39:00,119 --> 00:39:02,400
this girl's shirt. You want to get in a closet

796
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:03,679
with this one of these high school girls?

797
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 5: What?

798
00:39:05,159 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 2: So that's weird. That's what he came back with from Nebraska. Wow? Okay,

799
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,360
did he come back with a keg? I would a

800
00:39:12,599 --> 00:39:14,280
keg of beer? Yeah?

801
00:39:15,119 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 3: All right, I got two tidbits for you on Monster Squad. Okay,

802
00:39:18,039 --> 00:39:20,079
at the release of Monster Squad, do you know who

803
00:39:20,119 --> 00:39:23,920
showed up to show support for the Monster Squad? Kiefer Sutherland.

804
00:39:24,159 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 2: He's got the Lost Boys going on right there.

805
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,639
Speaker 3: The dude who like single handedly destroyed the Monster Squad

806
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,000
showed up at the premiere.

807
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 2: Interesting.

808
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought that was kind of interesting.

809
00:39:34,159 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. And here's my I'm ready to drop this nugget

810
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:38,159
on you. Okay. Yeah.

811
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 3: So we have maryel and Trainer who's in the Monster Squad. Yes,

812
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,239
and she plays the mom we're gonna talk about that.

813
00:39:44,679 --> 00:39:47,960
She was in Diehard. She plays the newscaster Gail Wallace. Yes,

814
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,280
the dad in the Monster Squad, the one who goes

815
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,280
into the rooms, look you know the kids, like, there's

816
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:54,320
a monster in my closet?

817
00:39:54,679 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 2: Oh right, right, the the guy who's like the Mummy

818
00:39:58,039 --> 00:40:00,119
is behind him and he's like, yeah.

819
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 3: There's monsters in here, and where are you monsters? All

820
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,039
monsters gotta get out of here. Of course he's not.

821
00:40:05,199 --> 00:40:08,719
He doesn't see the Mummy and all that stuff. That dude,

822
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:13,079
that actor is the guy at the beginning of Diehard

823
00:40:13,159 --> 00:40:16,199
who tells Bruce Willis that the best way to relax

824
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,000
is to take off your shoes and socks and make

825
00:40:18,079 --> 00:40:18,960
fists with your toes.

826
00:40:20,079 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 2: Toes. Yes, wow, how about that? Nice? Yes? And it

827
00:40:24,639 --> 00:40:27,119
just occurs to me just as just because I love

828
00:40:27,199 --> 00:40:30,280
to tie these movies together. Mary Ellen Trainor is the

829
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,079
mom in the Monster Squad. Yes. Mary Ellen Trainer, as

830
00:40:33,119 --> 00:40:35,360
we mentioned, was married to Robert Tamachas.

831
00:40:35,519 --> 00:40:35,679
Speaker 4: Yes.

832
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,559
Speaker 2: Robert Jamachis directed Back to the Future. Yes, which is

833
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,199
the movie that made Teen Wolf a big movie. Absolutely?

834
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 3: How about that?

835
00:40:44,119 --> 00:40:46,159
Speaker 2: Okay, fascinating? Are we the final judgment?

836
00:40:46,199 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 4: Now?

837
00:40:46,679 --> 00:40:48,039
Speaker 3: I got one other story I want to tell you

838
00:40:48,079 --> 00:40:50,880
real quick, okay, before we get the final judgment. The

839
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:55,719
reception of these movies was interesting night and day. Okay,

840
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,639
at Teen Wolf, they showed like they screened the movie

841
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:04,119
for a bunch of people in Hollywood. Okay, Well, as

842
00:41:04,199 --> 00:41:07,039
they're watching the movie. They get to the tenth reel.

843
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:11,599
This is like the final basketball scene, okay, which on

844
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,719
a side note, Michael J. Fox, you know, they had

845
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,280
set up all these basketball shots to make cinematic basketball,

846
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,400
and he finally went to the director and he's like, look,

847
00:41:20,519 --> 00:41:23,119
just let us play. We're just gonna play basketball, and

848
00:41:23,199 --> 00:41:25,599
just film is playing basketball, and just get shots from that.

849
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:32,440
After an hour of nobody coming near the bucket, he's like, guys,

850
00:41:32,599 --> 00:41:35,559
this is terrible. He's like, somewhere in the locker there

851
00:41:35,679 --> 00:41:38,840
is an hour worth of the worst basketball footage you've

852
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:43,679
ever seen. But anyway, they get to the final scene,

853
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,840
you know, with the basketball where Scott's playing and not

854
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,480
the wolf. And anyway, they realize the editor and the

855
00:41:49,559 --> 00:41:52,880
director are watching this with the crowd. They realize this

856
00:41:53,079 --> 00:41:55,159
is the wrong cut of the movie. This is the

857
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:59,199
wrong reel. Okay, they're watching this. It's missing like the

858
00:41:59,679 --> 00:42:03,719
school the music, like the emotional music, right, and so

859
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,039
they're like, what do we do it's missing the music.

860
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,039
She's like, I don't know what should we do, and

861
00:42:08,079 --> 00:42:09,719
he's like, it's so important to have the score in

862
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,199
the final scene. We've got to have it. So they

863
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,159
stop the screening and they say, look, everybody, sorry, we

864
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,920
got a technical difficulty. We're gonna run right down the

865
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,199
street and get the real will be right back. He

866
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:27,119
was like, the fact that nobody left, right, nobody left

867
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,960
tells me that people were on the hook for this

868
00:42:30,119 --> 00:42:32,519
movie because I knew we had a hit. At that moment,

869
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,159
he said, Now, I was doing ninety miles an hour

870
00:42:35,519 --> 00:42:38,400
through gas stations and stuff to go four miles there,

871
00:42:38,519 --> 00:42:41,159
pick it up, come four miles back, right, he goes.

872
00:42:41,199 --> 00:42:43,480
When I got back, nobody had left, and I knew

873
00:42:43,519 --> 00:42:44,000
we had a hit.

874
00:42:44,679 --> 00:42:48,079
Speaker 2: This is this movie. I'm just gonna say it. But

875
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,840
for Michael J. Fox, this movie fails hard, probably so hard.

876
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,519
And I will refer to you to one scene and

877
00:42:54,559 --> 00:42:56,800
we've already talked about it, and it is the scene

878
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,960
where he is in he's just discovered he's the wolf.

879
00:43:00,639 --> 00:43:04,239
He's in the school. He realizes he's changing. It's like

880
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,800
he's trying to do the math, and he's his claws

881
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,079
come out and he's like, gott to escape, and he's

882
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:13,199
running trying to find a bathroom to hide in and

883
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,880
he runs down the hall. The janitor is like, that's

884
00:43:17,039 --> 00:43:21,119
what and you see him and I mean it's it's

885
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,559
like four seconds stuff slip slip, slip, slip slip slip slip,

886
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:31,079
does not fall. Cut scene too. You're looking at him

887
00:43:31,119 --> 00:43:33,840
from down the hall of this Huh he does fall

888
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,280
but keep going right, but he stays up. But then

889
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,000
like just at this last second and you just see

890
00:43:40,079 --> 00:43:44,320
him go whoosh. It is comedy. It's old Like, I

891
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,760
don't know how physically he was able to keep his

892
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,199
balance with all of that stuff fall at the perfect

893
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,960
moment for the comedy and then also get the fall

894
00:43:53,159 --> 00:43:55,519
for when he slides by as you cut, as you

895
00:43:55,639 --> 00:44:00,159
take the second camera angle that and I'm just like,

896
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:04,920
this guy is a genius. He's a genius. And what

897
00:44:05,119 --> 00:44:07,119
is I don't want to bring it down, but I

898
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,360
just need to know this. What is tragic is what's

899
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,679
happened to this poor guy's body. Since then, his wife,

900
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,960
who he met on family ties. I almost said growing pains.

901
00:44:19,199 --> 00:44:21,400
His wife we'd met on family ties, has been by

902
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,440
his side through all of this. But I mean, he

903
00:44:24,079 --> 00:44:28,119
found out he had Parkinson's in his late twenties. He

904
00:44:28,199 --> 00:44:31,320
had not even been like on fire, top of the world.

905
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,760
Movie after hit after movie after than bigger than bubblegum

906
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,320
as he says yes, and then all of a sudden,

907
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,480
all of his movies start to do badly, right, and

908
00:44:42,079 --> 00:44:45,920
they talk about how he's gotten too comfortable, and he's

909
00:44:46,199 --> 00:44:48,440
he was thinking, oh, you know, I've just got to

910
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,039
where I don't have to ham it up now. This

911
00:44:50,199 --> 00:44:53,920
is Parkinson's given him the mask, and which is why

912
00:44:54,119 --> 00:44:57,360
a lot of what he did post finding out about

913
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,679
the disease, but before it kind of took him out

914
00:44:59,679 --> 00:45:03,320
of the movie business, didn't do as well. But there's

915
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,039
a documentary that you can watch on Apple TV right

916
00:45:06,079 --> 00:45:09,559
now called Still Watch It. It's incredible.

917
00:45:09,679 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 3: I'm excited to check it out. Yeah, all right, final judgment.

918
00:45:12,519 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 2: Here we are, Here we go. You go first? All right, Okay,

919
00:45:15,039 --> 00:45:15,480
So I'm.

920
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,599
Speaker 3: Just gonna say like this, I mean, for me, I

921
00:45:17,639 --> 00:45:19,480
think it's real important to the age you were when

922
00:45:19,519 --> 00:45:20,320
you saw these movies.

923
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:20,559
Speaker 4: Right.

924
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 3: So, I was twelve when I saw Teen Wolf, and

925
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,159
Teen Wolf had everything I aspired to, Right. I wanted

926
00:45:26,199 --> 00:45:29,280
to be a basketball star. I wanted to be in

927
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,960
the closet with the girl for two minutes, and I

928
00:45:32,079 --> 00:45:34,440
wanted to surf and be popular and be that guy

929
00:45:34,639 --> 00:45:39,079
right right, and muster Squad I was fourteen fifteen when

930
00:45:39,119 --> 00:45:42,559
I saw it, and those were little kids, and so

931
00:45:43,519 --> 00:45:46,159
I wasn't as interested in the little rascals at the time.

932
00:45:46,199 --> 00:45:48,800
I was more interested that summer in Beverly Hills Cop

933
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,920
Part two right right, and Stake Out and Jaws The

934
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,559
Revenge and stuff like that, and Predator. Yeah, I mean

935
00:45:59,199 --> 00:46:02,719
so when I first saw them, the movie that impacted

936
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,639
me the most clearly was Teen Wolf, and it remains

937
00:46:05,679 --> 00:46:08,559
to this day. I do enjoy Monster Squad. I would

938
00:46:08,599 --> 00:46:10,679
even love to show it to my kids.

939
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 4: You know.

940
00:46:11,519 --> 00:46:13,559
Speaker 3: I think it's a great fun movie.

941
00:46:13,639 --> 00:46:14,159
Speaker 2: I loved the.

942
00:46:14,199 --> 00:46:16,760
Speaker 3: Universal monster movies, but for me, it's Teen Wolf all day,

943
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:21,360
every day, mainly because Michael J. Fox is so unbelievably irresistible.

944
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:22,199
That's it.

945
00:46:22,639 --> 00:46:27,760
Speaker 2: Yep. And before we rewatched these movies, I would have

946
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:32,400
one said the same thing, like Michael J. Fox charisma

947
00:46:32,599 --> 00:46:35,000
is all over this thing. Even though he thought he

948
00:46:35,119 --> 00:46:38,199
was making a bad be movie, high school monster thing

949
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,400
at the time. He absolutely makes this movie. He and

950
00:46:41,519 --> 00:46:44,679
the dad, no doubt, James Hampton does a great job.

951
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,360
Absolutely make this movie. Loved it when I saw it

952
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,840
in the theater. Loved that moment when he opens the

953
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:54,440
door and James Hampton is wolfed out a very cuddly,

954
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,360
ewakeee kind of he said.

955
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,159
Speaker 3: When they screened that movie for the first time, he

956
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:05,480
said that moment only happens every very very rarely.

957
00:47:06,119 --> 00:47:06,519
Speaker 2: He said.

958
00:47:06,559 --> 00:47:10,559
Speaker 3: The whole place died laughing. He just soaked that in

959
00:47:10,679 --> 00:47:12,920
and said that we've nailed it.

960
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very very well done, super funny. But

961
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:21,400
upon the rewatch, I actually was genuinely impressed with Monster Squad.

962
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,519
I had not seen it since I saw it in

963
00:47:23,559 --> 00:47:26,519
the theater. I might have seen it, like maybe at

964
00:47:26,519 --> 00:47:29,039
a friend's house one night, you know, at you know,

965
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,000
whatever age I was, but you point out ages and

966
00:47:32,079 --> 00:47:37,159
that it's very important. When I was nine, when Teen

967
00:47:37,199 --> 00:47:40,519
Wolf came out, I loved it because I mean, even

968
00:47:40,559 --> 00:47:41,840
at nine, I still wanted to be with a girl

969
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,400
in closet, but I also wanted to be a wolfman,

970
00:47:44,519 --> 00:47:49,360
right sure, And I loved the universal Monsters, and so

971
00:47:49,679 --> 00:47:52,440
I loved Monster Squad when I watched it. And going

972
00:47:52,559 --> 00:47:56,119
back and looking at at this movie, I don't know

973
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,679
if it's just because it didn't make it at the

974
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,960
time that I've got this I get this feeling, or

975
00:48:02,159 --> 00:48:06,800
just because it's really a very well written script like

976
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,960
which makes sense now that we know, but this was

977
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,400
I understand Shane Black when he says this is my

978
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:15,599
best script. It's really well put together. Even at the opening,

979
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:20,280
you know, the opening texts on the screen of about

980
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,079
Van Helsing and how they tried to save the world

981
00:48:23,199 --> 00:48:26,559
and they blew it. I laughed out loud. And I

982
00:48:26,639 --> 00:48:28,360
haven't even seen one scene of the movie, you know,

983
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,679
And so this is hard to say. It's a very

984
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,440
close call. Any day. I could easily pick Teen Wolf.

985
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,119
I'm wearing the shirt, I've got the funk pop Yeah,

986
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,760
but I just I'm gonna go with Monster Squad, just

987
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,559
because it's such a well done script and for as

988
00:48:43,639 --> 00:48:46,840
low a budget as it was. The end is exciting,

989
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:51,639
the acting is good, the characters, you know, they're they're

990
00:48:51,679 --> 00:48:54,440
the goonies. And for me, I was twelve when that

991
00:48:54,559 --> 00:48:58,239
came out. I was the same age as those kids. Yeah, yeah,

992
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,559
it's it's Monster Squad for Metastic man.

993
00:49:00,639 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 5: I love it.

994
00:49:01,119 --> 00:49:02,199
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it.

995
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 3: When we picked opposites. Yeah, all right, let's talk about

996
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:06,239
what we got coming next week?

997
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 2: Okay, what do we got coming next week?

998
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 3: We have one of the best selling albums of the

999
00:49:09,519 --> 00:49:16,159
nineteen nineties. Okay, thirty three million albums sold. Jagged Little Pill.

1000
00:49:17,079 --> 00:49:19,760
You ought to know Alanis Morrisett.

1001
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, fantastic. Who and who are we pitting her against?

1002
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 3: Putting her against Jewel and dang no doubt?

1003
00:49:29,079 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 2: Right, ladies right there, all very foxy back then, A

1004
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:40,079
couple of them still very foxy. I'll let you decide

1005
00:49:40,079 --> 00:49:42,679
which your couple. All right, guys, thank you much so

1006
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,079
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1007
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1008
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1009
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1010
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:54,880
next week. Thanks guys, bye bye.

1011
00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course is a Ted Decker movie?

1012
00:50:00,159 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 2: Yes, Fred Farmer? Farmer Fred Ted?

1013
00:50:07,559 --> 00:50:09,079
Speaker 3: Okay, let me see that game.

1014
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:15,119
Speaker 2: Waits an outdaker just wander You got to quote sixteen candles?

1015
00:50:15,199 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 3: Okay,