WEBVTT 1 00:00:47.960 --> 00:02:15.639 All right, everyone, I gotta answer you guys. 2 00:02:15.680 --> 00:02:16.919 Hold on, I'm going to feedback. 3 00:02:17.120 --> 00:02:21.560 I hear myself with sound all right, yeah, now I 4 00:02:21.599 --> 00:02:22.960 was hearing the back of my headphones. 5 00:02:23.039 --> 00:02:26.840 It should be sounds good. Now, Uh the intro? Did 6 00:02:26.879 --> 00:02:29.759 they intro? Like I said, it never shows the way 7 00:02:29.759 --> 00:02:30.719 you should plays? 8 00:02:31.080 --> 00:02:32.680 Look like you played through good that time? 9 00:02:33.599 --> 00:02:34.719 Did it went all the way through? 10 00:02:35.680 --> 00:02:38.759 Okay? It don't look like it did any duplicating like 11 00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:39.400 the last time. 12 00:02:40.000 --> 00:02:42.840 Okay, Yeah, you know, I don't know why it does that. 13 00:02:43.159 --> 00:02:45.120 I've been trying to look into that a little by little, 14 00:02:45.759 --> 00:02:47.840 and then you know, from what I've looked up before, 15 00:02:47.879 --> 00:02:50.879 it's usually have this too much going on on your device, 16 00:02:50.960 --> 00:02:55.120 somebody that has an inference streaming, So I try to 17 00:02:55.159 --> 00:02:56.840 make sure I clear everything out, make sure there's no 18 00:02:56.919 --> 00:02:59.280 open windows and nothing like that whatsoever. 19 00:03:00.159 --> 00:03:06.840 So all right, okay, BEFL, let's keep the chat open here. 20 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:11.120 Uh all right, Hey, anybody on the child a live chat, Hey, 21 00:03:11.120 --> 00:03:11.759 welcome a board. 22 00:03:11.800 --> 00:03:13.520 If you're not in live chat, hey, come on over. 23 00:03:13.759 --> 00:03:15.800 Uh we're live right here on YouTube. 24 00:03:16.039 --> 00:03:20.199 If you're watching on YouTube, of course, I've been doing 25 00:03:20.240 --> 00:03:22.159 this on Facebook, but I'm actually not I'm trying to 26 00:03:22.199 --> 00:03:25.159 keep people focused more on the YouTube. 27 00:03:24.800 --> 00:03:25.680 Side of things. 28 00:03:25.960 --> 00:03:29.960 Uh, if you're not subscribed to this channel, hey, if 29 00:03:29.960 --> 00:03:32.039 you want to stay up to date, if you want 30 00:03:32.080 --> 00:03:37.240 to get the notifications, click subscribe and that little bell icon. 31 00:03:37.360 --> 00:03:39.520 Because I promise you it's not going to cost you 32 00:03:39.520 --> 00:03:43.599 a thing. It's free to subscribe. Uh you'll, you'll, you'll. 33 00:03:43.360 --> 00:03:45.280 Just get notifications every time we go live. 34 00:03:47.280 --> 00:03:49.280 Well, listen, David, I'm glad you guys agreed to do 35 00:03:49.319 --> 00:03:52.479 this when I ask you about this tonight, because you know, 36 00:03:52.639 --> 00:03:56.159 with the snow that we got this weekend. Uh, you know, 37 00:03:56.840 --> 00:04:00.199 I haven't been able to go nowhere and it's been boring. 38 00:04:00.360 --> 00:04:02.080 It's like, you know, I really want to do a podcast, 39 00:04:02.080 --> 00:04:07.520 so let me see what. So, Yeah, here we are. 40 00:04:08.120 --> 00:04:09.879 We're glad to be here. I mean, we didn't have 41 00:04:09.879 --> 00:04:12.159 nothing to do anyway. She gets another day off tomorrow, 42 00:04:13.039 --> 00:04:13.639 able to work. 43 00:04:13.719 --> 00:04:18.040 I didn't get to work today or tomorrow because of 44 00:04:18.079 --> 00:04:18.480 the weather. 45 00:04:19.120 --> 00:04:21.120 Yeah, that's the same situation I'm in. 46 00:04:21.759 --> 00:04:24.879 I mean, yeah, my boss he didn't come out and 47 00:04:24.879 --> 00:04:26.519 tell me, but the way he made it sound like. 48 00:04:26.720 --> 00:04:28.560 He didn't even get into work today. I don't know 49 00:04:28.600 --> 00:04:29.839 if anyone made it in or not. 50 00:04:30.120 --> 00:04:33.519 But my boss said that, you know, not to worry 51 00:04:33.519 --> 00:04:34.839 about coming into work. 52 00:04:34.680 --> 00:04:37.199 So yeah, all that. 53 00:04:38.879 --> 00:04:43.000 Wow, But yeah, I mean, I mean there's not much 54 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:44.399 you can do when you're stuck at home. 55 00:04:44.480 --> 00:04:44.720 Really. 56 00:04:44.800 --> 00:04:47.399 I mean, I try not to eat up with food 57 00:04:47.439 --> 00:04:49.240 we have here, because I mean, we got plenty of it, 58 00:04:49.319 --> 00:04:51.199 but it's just you get so bored. 59 00:04:51.879 --> 00:04:53.519 I just turned to eating sometimes. I know it's a 60 00:04:53.560 --> 00:04:54.079 bad have it. 61 00:04:55.319 --> 00:04:56.519 I got to have a little fun. 62 00:04:56.720 --> 00:04:59.480 I managed to get my truck out of our driveway 63 00:04:59.600 --> 00:05:03.959 on the main road. They trying to tell me how 64 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:07.160 to do it, but I had fun getting up and 65 00:05:07.240 --> 00:05:11.360 over that big mess that b Doc created for us 66 00:05:11.839 --> 00:05:13.040 at the edge of our driveway. 67 00:05:14.120 --> 00:05:15.839 You know, it's funny said that. I've heard other people 68 00:05:15.839 --> 00:05:19.319 talk about in some of the other local groups. That's 69 00:05:20.439 --> 00:05:22.959 Vita or whoever has been plowing some of the streets 70 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:26.360 around Stanton or whatever, the side streets. Yeah, they basically 71 00:05:26.439 --> 00:05:29.519 formed a three to four foot wall up against the 72 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:34.240 embankments of the houses and the properties and even blocking 73 00:05:34.319 --> 00:05:37.800 off some of the driveways. So, I mean some of 74 00:05:37.839 --> 00:05:39.600 the that's what I've read on some of the posts. 75 00:05:39.639 --> 00:05:42.680 So well, yeah, they do that to all the driveways 76 00:05:42.720 --> 00:05:45.279 down here where we live. I mean, I mean, what 77 00:05:45.360 --> 00:05:46.879 else can they do? They got to get the main 78 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:49.000 street players right exactly. 79 00:05:49.639 --> 00:05:51.360 I mean, yeah, that's all you have to do is 80 00:05:51.360 --> 00:05:54.199 to shovel out a small opening to get to that. 81 00:05:54.319 --> 00:05:55.480 You know what they plowed. 82 00:05:55.519 --> 00:05:58.560 I mean that's the key. Small opening. We don't have 83 00:05:58.600 --> 00:05:59.480 a small opening. 84 00:05:59.759 --> 00:06:03.480 Yeah, yeah, oh wow. 85 00:06:05.560 --> 00:06:07.680 While we're early into this podcast, I do want to 86 00:06:07.720 --> 00:06:12.720 remind everybody we do have some other upcoming live podcasts 87 00:06:12.720 --> 00:06:13.040 coming up. 88 00:06:13.120 --> 00:06:13.600 This week. 89 00:06:14.319 --> 00:06:18.439 We have two guests back to back January thirtieth and 90 00:06:18.560 --> 00:06:24.240 January thirty first. Friday the thirtieth, we have Ronald Murphy, 91 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:27.879 you will be joining us live. Then on the thirty 92 00:06:27.959 --> 00:06:33.959 first Saturday, we have another guest, Kevin less Starge. I 93 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:36.959 don't know if some pronounces any rate and maybe I 94 00:06:37.000 --> 00:06:39.920 believe it's less less Starge or less Stargie. I don't know, 95 00:06:40.399 --> 00:06:43.000 but anyway, Kevin will be joining us. Kevin less Starge. 96 00:06:43.000 --> 00:06:45.600 I'm gonna just say go with that. I'll find out 97 00:06:45.639 --> 00:06:48.319 this weekend when we talked to him. 98 00:06:48.480 --> 00:06:52.800 So yeah, both of these will both it's all bigfoot podcasts. 99 00:06:54.959 --> 00:07:00.560 They do have some experience and some research involving other 100 00:07:00.600 --> 00:07:03.079 cryptids and paranormal so we'll get into all that that 101 00:07:03.160 --> 00:07:04.720 should be interested in what they haven't share. 102 00:07:05.360 --> 00:07:09.759 So again, Friday night eight pm. 103 00:07:10.360 --> 00:07:14.720 Now Saturday will be nine pm. I didn't mind doing 104 00:07:14.800 --> 00:07:17.560 nine pm for Kevin, because you know, he's got little ones. 105 00:07:17.600 --> 00:07:19.319 He tries to get the bed at a certain time, 106 00:07:19.439 --> 00:07:22.079 so I wanted to give him some time to do that. 107 00:07:22.240 --> 00:07:25.240 So he was willing to work with whatever, but I said, 108 00:07:25.240 --> 00:07:30.519 I don't mind doing nine pms, especially on Saturdays, because 109 00:07:30.560 --> 00:07:33.839 we get listeners and people tuning in from the West 110 00:07:33.839 --> 00:07:38.199 Coast and there's what three hours behind us, So because 111 00:07:38.199 --> 00:07:40.680 the later we start something, the better off it is 112 00:07:40.680 --> 00:07:41.839 for the people in the West Coast. 113 00:07:41.839 --> 00:07:43.839 So I try to keep that in mind sometimes, but 114 00:07:44.399 --> 00:07:47.040 I usually, again Friday nights, I aim for eight pm 115 00:07:47.120 --> 00:07:51.399 because it's convenient for me. My grandson's usually in bed 116 00:07:51.439 --> 00:07:53.959 by that time, so it tends. 117 00:07:53.759 --> 00:07:54.319 To work out. 118 00:07:58.000 --> 00:07:59.439 So this is a couple of things we'll get into. 119 00:07:59.600 --> 00:08:01.920 The first, Well, we're gonna we welcome questions tonight. We 120 00:08:01.959 --> 00:08:03.040 want to do a Q and A. 121 00:08:03.519 --> 00:08:05.360 We want to give you guys the opportunity to ask 122 00:08:05.439 --> 00:08:08.560 questions at any point in time tonight. I believe it's 123 00:08:08.600 --> 00:08:11.160 going to be very random, but I do have a 124 00:08:11.160 --> 00:08:14.800 couple of things I wrote down. Uh, I think the 125 00:08:14.879 --> 00:08:17.439 start off with one of the things I've written down. 126 00:08:17.480 --> 00:08:19.040 I'm gonna, I guess I'm gonna put. 127 00:08:19.600 --> 00:08:21.560 David and Wlissa on the spot to start off with. 128 00:08:23.600 --> 00:08:27.160 Let's see now, yeah, let's get into this. 129 00:08:27.199 --> 00:08:29.480 You know, we've been doing bigfoot research together for you know, 130 00:08:30.199 --> 00:08:31.600 you guys have been joining me for the last five 131 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:37.080 plus years. You know, you guys have been involved with 132 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:40.679 more with the paranormal side of things, and you've gotten 133 00:08:40.679 --> 00:08:45.440 involved and been doing the big foot thing with me. Now, 134 00:08:45.480 --> 00:08:47.240 I know neither one of you guys have witness was 135 00:08:47.240 --> 00:08:50.879 seeing a bigfoot. However, I do want to ask you guys, 136 00:08:51.919 --> 00:08:53.559 what's your take on bigfoot? I mean, how do you 137 00:08:53.559 --> 00:08:57.000 guys view bigfoot? You know, just to kind of throw 138 00:08:57.039 --> 00:09:00.279 a few things out there, what's your belief system when. 139 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:01.080 It comes to big foot? 140 00:09:01.399 --> 00:09:02.840 So if i'll give. 141 00:09:02.720 --> 00:09:04.399 You I'll start off with those few questions and cand 142 00:09:04.399 --> 00:09:06.279 of give you guys something to kind of. 143 00:09:09.320 --> 00:09:09.840 First tonight. 144 00:09:10.559 --> 00:09:14.000 Honestly, I think big Hood, even though I've never seen 145 00:09:14.039 --> 00:09:18.120 anym or anything, I believe he is some sort of 146 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:23.279 a primate with humanoid characteristics. 147 00:09:23.840 --> 00:09:28.960 I believe they have a whole family just like we do. 148 00:09:29.080 --> 00:09:32.639 They have families, they have children and their. 149 00:09:32.480 --> 00:09:33.720 Elders and stuff like that. 150 00:09:33.799 --> 00:09:38.159 I believe that, And just because we haven't seen him 151 00:09:38.159 --> 00:09:42.039 doesn't mean they don't exist. But you know, that's one 152 00:09:42.080 --> 00:09:43.639 of the things we do when we go out in 153 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:45.759 the woods, you know, we get off of the beaten 154 00:09:45.840 --> 00:09:49.000 path and we go out and we look for clues 155 00:09:49.799 --> 00:09:53.440 for evidence, and we try to document it the best 156 00:09:53.480 --> 00:09:57.519 we can, and we try to first rule out if 157 00:09:57.559 --> 00:10:00.440 it's you know, made by humans that may have been 158 00:10:00.519 --> 00:10:01.519 hiking in the area. 159 00:10:02.080 --> 00:10:03.320 We try to rule out. 160 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:09.279 If if it's weather related, or if it's another animal, 161 00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:11.720 you know, a wild creature that lives in the woods, 162 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:15.360 you know, bear, deer, you know everything. You may have 163 00:10:15.440 --> 00:10:18.480 hummingbirds that live in the woods. A lot of people don't. 164 00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:19.440 Realize that, but they do. 165 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:24.200 And I don't know. 166 00:10:24.360 --> 00:10:28.240 It's just that's my belief on I believe it is true. 167 00:10:28.360 --> 00:10:31.159 I believe they do spend a lot of time observing us. 168 00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:35.679 I believe they they are more comfortable with us than 169 00:10:35.720 --> 00:10:38.919 what we probably realize that they are, because they. 170 00:10:38.759 --> 00:10:40.799 Do watch us, they mimic us. 171 00:10:42.159 --> 00:10:45.360 People often ask, and how come you don't see a 172 00:10:45.360 --> 00:10:46.240 bigfoot body? 173 00:10:46.679 --> 00:10:46.879 You know? 174 00:10:46.960 --> 00:10:49.720 How come you don't ever find a dead Okay, same thing? 175 00:10:49.960 --> 00:10:54.120 How come you rarely see dead wildlife except for maybe deer? 176 00:10:54.759 --> 00:10:57.440 Where are the bear? You know? 177 00:10:57.639 --> 00:11:01.080 Where are the mountain lions and the bobcats? How come 178 00:11:01.120 --> 00:11:04.639 you don't see them? You know a lot of them? 179 00:11:04.679 --> 00:11:05.320 Are you know? 180 00:11:05.399 --> 00:11:13.080 The Their bodies are buried by nature themselves, but by 181 00:11:13.080 --> 00:11:16.360 the leaves, by storms, stuff like that. Others are picked 182 00:11:16.360 --> 00:11:21.559 off by predators. They're trying to eat nature at its 183 00:11:21.559 --> 00:11:23.080 finess taking care of itself. 184 00:11:25.240 --> 00:11:31.559 Absolutely well, my take on it's almost like hers. But 185 00:11:34.039 --> 00:11:40.039 taking into account of history, going back decades, centuries of 186 00:11:40.120 --> 00:11:44.960 the reports, you can't dismiss everything. I mean to me, 187 00:11:45.000 --> 00:11:49.120 there's still a lot of questions. I think they're out there. Uh, 188 00:11:49.240 --> 00:11:52.200 but I can't say if you've got to have a 189 00:11:52.279 --> 00:11:56.080 breeding population, you got to. But yet you can't put 190 00:11:56.120 --> 00:12:00.200 a number on how many it would actually be, obviously, Uh. 191 00:12:00.440 --> 00:12:05.320 I always question do they travel as a family unit 192 00:12:05.399 --> 00:12:09.600 stay as a family unit? We can't answer that. Are 193 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:13.919 they more like a lot of your your larger lions 194 00:12:14.000 --> 00:12:17.159 to where you might get a breeding pair until the 195 00:12:17.200 --> 00:12:20.639 female has the young one, and then the male goes 196 00:12:20.679 --> 00:12:23.759 off on his own. Female raises the young one. We 197 00:12:23.840 --> 00:12:26.639 don't have those answers. We can only speculate. And I'm 198 00:12:26.639 --> 00:12:28.200 not going to go on to limb and say if 199 00:12:28.200 --> 00:12:30.080 this is this, and this is this and this is it. 200 00:12:30.200 --> 00:12:33.799 We don't know. Do they migrate? We don't my mind, 201 00:12:33.919 --> 00:12:37.240 we don't know. You got to look at the areas 202 00:12:37.279 --> 00:12:42.080 as far as geographical location, food supply. Maybe they don't 203 00:12:42.240 --> 00:12:46.799 need the nourishment that we do. Maybe they could get 204 00:12:46.799 --> 00:12:50.399 by longer without it, you know, like your bears and 205 00:12:50.440 --> 00:12:54.240 everything else during the wintertime. There's so many unanswered questions 206 00:12:54.240 --> 00:12:56.440 out there. There are a lot of people trying to 207 00:12:58.039 --> 00:13:03.679 come up with but nobody, nobody can pinpoint exactly what 208 00:13:04.080 --> 00:13:06.960 is going on. Other than you do have your sightings. 209 00:13:08.159 --> 00:13:11.799 You do have those for misidentification, obviously you do. You 210 00:13:11.879 --> 00:13:15.000 got the pranksters out there, Yes, you got the panksters, 211 00:13:16.360 --> 00:13:20.080 but then you got other evidence like the cast that 212 00:13:20.159 --> 00:13:22.679 you have, the cast that other people have. Those can 213 00:13:22.759 --> 00:13:27.159 be pranked. But I can't. I can't believe one hundred 214 00:13:27.159 --> 00:13:29.879 percent of them are faint. It just don't make any 215 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:32.799 sense to me. I can't believe that over the centuries, 216 00:13:33.679 --> 00:13:38.320 probably several million people has reported accounts of seeing them, 217 00:13:38.519 --> 00:13:41.360 maybe even some interactions to where you're just going to 218 00:13:41.399 --> 00:13:44.679 dismiss them as all being looming. I can't believe that. 219 00:13:45.000 --> 00:13:49.720 It's just like the paranormal side. We've been interested in 220 00:13:49.799 --> 00:13:52.559 all of this from the cryptocide of paranormals all over life. 221 00:13:52.879 --> 00:13:55.799 It's just until recently we've had the time to actually 222 00:13:55.799 --> 00:13:58.639 start and delving at it, big foot on your side, 223 00:13:59.159 --> 00:14:01.559 and then we had no intent for the paranormal to 224 00:14:01.600 --> 00:14:03.879 be drawn into it to the last couple of capouts. 225 00:14:03.919 --> 00:14:06.799 So we're not gonna go We've gone over that enough already. 226 00:14:07.440 --> 00:14:12.279 Uh So, now that just raises more questions out if 227 00:14:12.279 --> 00:14:17.480 they're out there, Are they're just fleshing blood? M h 228 00:14:18.840 --> 00:14:23.840 Are they controlled by other entities? Yeah? 229 00:14:23.879 --> 00:14:26.159 These are good thoughts, good good questions. 230 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:30.720 You just you just can't nobody can Nobody can say. 231 00:14:32.200 --> 00:14:35.399 But you can't dismiss everything that's going on, especially when 232 00:14:35.399 --> 00:14:38.720 you've got centuries of reports, and not only here in 233 00:14:38.759 --> 00:14:42.559 the US with indigenous people and the Native Americans, but 234 00:14:43.080 --> 00:14:47.559 in other parts of the world, and from the Himalayas 235 00:14:47.600 --> 00:14:53.200 to the uh Force here in the US, and I 236 00:14:53.240 --> 00:14:56.679 think some in Europe. Uh Now, one thing I don't 237 00:14:56.679 --> 00:14:58.919 know is I don't know if there's been any report 238 00:14:59.000 --> 00:15:03.120 around any tropical zones or not. I don't know if 239 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:07.120 you know anything about like central South America has has 240 00:15:07.159 --> 00:15:09.440 there been reports? I know we got the Skunk Cape 241 00:15:09.440 --> 00:15:13.320 in Florida, but does that extend down into the tropical areas? 242 00:15:13.360 --> 00:15:16.600 Are they just strictly in the northern hemisphere, northern North 243 00:15:16.600 --> 00:15:19.399 America where we are maybe over in European places like 244 00:15:19.399 --> 00:15:22.919 getting Himalayas. Uh, I don't have those answers on that. 245 00:15:22.960 --> 00:15:25.200 I've really not even looked into that aspect because we're 246 00:15:25.200 --> 00:15:27.960 too involved looking where we are now just in our 247 00:15:28.039 --> 00:15:28.919 area for that. 248 00:15:29.120 --> 00:15:33.480 Yeah, so real quick, I don't know the name of 249 00:15:33.519 --> 00:15:37.679 it off the top of my head. However, down in 250 00:15:37.720 --> 00:15:41.000 South America, I want to say, close to Brazil, the 251 00:15:41.080 --> 00:15:44.000 jungle surrounding Brazil. Are you know down around those regions 252 00:15:44.039 --> 00:15:48.799 of South America? They do have a bigfoot legend down there. However, 253 00:15:49.200 --> 00:15:50.639 off the top of my head, I'm not going to 254 00:15:50.679 --> 00:15:52.399 try to look it up on my. 255 00:15:52.320 --> 00:15:55.639 Phone real quick. But uh, they do have something down there, 256 00:15:55.679 --> 00:15:55.960 I know. 257 00:15:55.919 --> 00:15:56.759 That much so. 258 00:15:57.600 --> 00:16:02.519 But Uh, there's been there's been search expeditions. There was 259 00:16:02.559 --> 00:16:06.919 one individual he's actually gone. I learned some of some 260 00:16:07.000 --> 00:16:09.200 of the information based off of what have I watched 261 00:16:09.200 --> 00:16:13.240 on this one show. I was actually came across it, 262 00:16:13.440 --> 00:16:16.679 not really all that long ago, but I was surprised 263 00:16:16.679 --> 00:16:18.320 to see that they do have a big foot legend 264 00:16:18.399 --> 00:16:21.639 down there. And again I can't think of it off 265 00:16:21.639 --> 00:16:25.320 the top of my head, but somebody on the live 266 00:16:25.399 --> 00:16:28.320 chat maybe they know of the name or look it up. 267 00:16:30.360 --> 00:16:32.559 I even heard things about Mexico. 268 00:16:32.279 --> 00:16:36.720 So I don't know, you know, yeah, I mean, but 269 00:16:36.759 --> 00:16:38.639 those are the areas you don't really focus on or 270 00:16:38.679 --> 00:16:42.080 hear too much about. I mean Texas, look at Texas. 271 00:16:42.120 --> 00:16:44.639 Texas has a lot of reports, a lot of interesting things, 272 00:16:45.240 --> 00:16:51.360 even a lot of history of or people finding fossilized 273 00:16:51.799 --> 00:16:54.879 dinosaur tracks and other things in some of the river 274 00:16:54.919 --> 00:16:58.840 beds the stream bed So it is interesting what you 275 00:16:58.919 --> 00:17:00.879 learn about some of the areas the United States. 276 00:17:01.480 --> 00:17:01.879 Texas. 277 00:17:01.919 --> 00:17:06.200 Another thing about Texas, I came across this some years ago. Well, 278 00:17:06.240 --> 00:17:10.960 they had actually found uh small, I will say small, 279 00:17:11.480 --> 00:17:14.519 but remains of primates out in the desert. You know, 280 00:17:14.720 --> 00:17:18.640 I mean, were these pets? Were these where these primates? 281 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:19.440 Something that once. 282 00:17:19.319 --> 00:17:20.720 Suggested down in these years. 283 00:17:21.000 --> 00:17:23.480 I mean, Texas on the most part is a very warm, 284 00:17:23.599 --> 00:17:27.480 warm climate, so it's not so far fetched, you know, 285 00:17:29.599 --> 00:17:31.680 just like like one of the things we brought up 286 00:17:31.720 --> 00:17:34.799 in one of the podcasts before, there's been tropical plants 287 00:17:35.240 --> 00:17:39.839 from warm climates found up in the northern you know, 288 00:17:40.400 --> 00:17:44.400 uh like north I can't think I just lost my 289 00:17:44.480 --> 00:17:47.480 training five way up the yeah, up there in the 290 00:17:48.160 --> 00:17:50.720 extreme cold, you know climates. 291 00:17:51.240 --> 00:17:54.839 So you know, people, you know, you have to ask 292 00:17:54.839 --> 00:17:55.880 how did they get up that way? 293 00:17:55.960 --> 00:17:56.119 You know. 294 00:17:56.240 --> 00:17:57.519 I mean, it's the same thing with a lot of 295 00:17:57.519 --> 00:17:59.119 the plants that were found down in Florida. 296 00:17:59.559 --> 00:18:02.119 A lot of people believe are there is theory that 297 00:18:02.200 --> 00:18:04.079 you know, a lot of plants floated. 298 00:18:03.680 --> 00:18:06.960 There and over a period of time they got you know, 299 00:18:07.960 --> 00:18:11.200 used by the natives and people put them there and 300 00:18:11.480 --> 00:18:11.960 or whatever. 301 00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:12.400 I mean. 302 00:18:12.799 --> 00:18:15.079 I guess that's something for another topic, you know. But 303 00:18:15.480 --> 00:18:18.279 it's just things you hear about, and you know, any 304 00:18:18.319 --> 00:18:22.319 game you wonder because you know, are these plants. 305 00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:23.480 Native here or whatnot? 306 00:18:23.519 --> 00:18:26.799 I mean. And of course my life that I have here, 307 00:18:26.839 --> 00:18:31.839 it's not fully charged like I had it anyway. Yeah, 308 00:18:31.880 --> 00:18:34.640 there's a lot of things we could think about, a 309 00:18:34.640 --> 00:18:40.720 lot of things we could consider. Well, let's job, let's 310 00:18:40.799 --> 00:18:41.119 kind of. 311 00:18:42.960 --> 00:18:49.079 On that one more last thing on that is providing 312 00:18:49.119 --> 00:18:54.880 they're out there. They're not stupid. There's I believe there's 313 00:18:54.920 --> 00:18:59.160 smarter than what most people give them credit for. That's 314 00:18:59.160 --> 00:19:05.480 why we don't have the encounters open encounters. Besides, you know, 315 00:19:05.799 --> 00:19:09.880 people seeing them. Except for the past where the Native 316 00:19:09.880 --> 00:19:12.799 Americans said they actually used they used to interact with 317 00:19:12.880 --> 00:19:16.599 them until one story I heard was they used to 318 00:19:16.599 --> 00:19:19.960 interact with them several hundred years ago. I don't know 319 00:19:20.039 --> 00:19:24.079 the timeframe and to where they'd exchanged stuff. And then 320 00:19:24.160 --> 00:19:30.960 but during one of the interactions, supposedly one of the 321 00:19:31.119 --> 00:19:37.799 younger Bigfoot accidentally killed a Native American boy playing and 322 00:19:37.920 --> 00:19:40.599 at that point it's when more of a separation took 323 00:19:40.640 --> 00:19:45.920 place as far as really not mingling together after that point. 324 00:19:46.960 --> 00:19:49.680 That's one of the stories I've heard from the past. 325 00:19:50.559 --> 00:19:52.240 But I think that they're smarter than what you give 326 00:19:52.279 --> 00:19:59.240 credit for, providing they're out there because you know the elephants, 327 00:19:59.359 --> 00:20:01.880 and they may not be the only one when they 328 00:20:01.920 --> 00:20:05.359 know when they're going to die pass on. They have 329 00:20:05.640 --> 00:20:09.720 elephant buried, not burial grounds, but they've got grounds where 330 00:20:09.759 --> 00:20:13.319 elephants know where to migrate to when they finally pass 331 00:20:14.279 --> 00:20:16.720 Maybe the same thing with them, Maybe they go under ground. 332 00:20:16.839 --> 00:20:17.839 You know who knows. 333 00:20:17.880 --> 00:20:21.960 Their ancestral burial There you go, they migrate back to 334 00:20:22.119 --> 00:20:23.160 when it's time for them. 335 00:20:24.160 --> 00:20:26.079 You do think every now and then, I'm proud of you. 336 00:20:31.000 --> 00:20:32.799 That's what I was. I was trying to come up 337 00:20:32.839 --> 00:20:36.119 with a sister of burial grounds to where uh all 338 00:20:36.160 --> 00:20:38.680 animals have that, you know that they know where to 339 00:20:38.720 --> 00:20:40.680 go when one time of the year and stuff like that. 340 00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:44.640 As far as it's bread into them over time and 341 00:20:44.680 --> 00:20:46.519 what not. I think they're a lots smarter than what 342 00:20:46.599 --> 00:20:51.359 people give them credit for. They do observice. I feel 343 00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:54.920 I've always every now and that. I asked William Nighthag, 344 00:20:55.000 --> 00:20:58.519 I said, what came first? The tree structure or the tepee? 345 00:21:00.720 --> 00:21:03.720 Did the Indians come up with the tpu TP first 346 00:21:03.720 --> 00:21:08.000 and the Bigfoot mimic that? Or did the Bigfoot make 347 00:21:08.079 --> 00:21:10.880 the you know, the tree structures TP form and then 348 00:21:10.880 --> 00:21:13.279 the Indias started to mimic it from them? You know 349 00:21:13.359 --> 00:21:15.799 what came first? The chicken or the eight you know? 350 00:21:16.680 --> 00:21:18.240 I mean that was just something that was just messing 351 00:21:18.240 --> 00:21:22.200 with William about something like that, right, But it's uh, 352 00:21:23.839 --> 00:21:26.960 it's interesting, smart what what what? What we're give them for? 353 00:21:27.160 --> 00:21:29.240 And maybe they don't have the same metabolism we do. 354 00:21:29.319 --> 00:21:31.240 That they don't need to eat so many pounds of 355 00:21:31.279 --> 00:21:33.079 food today to stay a lot and stuff like that. 356 00:21:33.160 --> 00:21:35.599 We you know, we don't know they might be able 357 00:21:35.599 --> 00:21:38.640 to go one or two months without food. Realistically, we 358 00:21:38.720 --> 00:21:42.279 don't know. We forget about their body size and mass. 359 00:21:42.559 --> 00:21:45.960 We don't know what their tabolism is, like that's right, 360 00:21:46.200 --> 00:21:49.079 we don't have one to study. So that's why I 361 00:21:49.079 --> 00:21:52.720 always question, didn't migrate? Maybe they don't. Maybe they able 362 00:21:52.759 --> 00:21:57.160 to survive where they're at until things start coming back around. 363 00:21:57.240 --> 00:21:59.000 I mean those are answers. You know, we're all trying 364 00:21:59.000 --> 00:22:01.599 to strive forward when we're they're doing a research and looking. 365 00:22:01.359 --> 00:22:08.960 For absolutely uh yeah, there's you know, some of the 366 00:22:09.000 --> 00:22:11.400 things you brought up with things I used to love 367 00:22:11.400 --> 00:22:14.599 to talk and discuss, you know, because I've always considered. 368 00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:17.079 You know, one of the things you mentioned real quick, 369 00:22:17.119 --> 00:22:20.000 I'll bring it up is, you know a lot of 370 00:22:20.000 --> 00:22:22.279 the reports, so we hear that they're big and massively. 371 00:22:22.400 --> 00:22:24.480 So you're like, okay, in order for them for five, 372 00:22:25.079 --> 00:22:26.079 they must have to have a. 373 00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:29.000 Lot, you know, a big calorie intake. You know, like 374 00:22:29.880 --> 00:22:32.519 for us, what what is the for average human? What 375 00:22:32.599 --> 00:22:34.920 they say is for human like two thousand calories per 376 00:22:35.000 --> 00:22:38.200 day roughly is what we need about. 377 00:22:38.440 --> 00:22:41.799 Yeah, so I don't know. I mean, I don't know 378 00:22:41.799 --> 00:22:44.200 if we'll always get to the many calories in the daytime. 379 00:22:44.240 --> 00:22:47.279 But I mean, I guess it depends on if you're really. 380 00:22:47.079 --> 00:22:51.000 Paying attention to what you eat. But all different mentalities. 381 00:22:51.079 --> 00:22:53.200 Look at the snake. Snakes goes a couple of three 382 00:22:53.240 --> 00:22:55.799 months without even eating has meal and go to a 383 00:22:55.839 --> 00:22:57.799 three months. Of course they don't move around much, don't 384 00:22:57.799 --> 00:23:00.160 get me wrong, right, but we don't know what what 385 00:23:00.279 --> 00:23:05.599 metabolism they would have. It may be a slow metabolism 386 00:23:05.640 --> 00:23:07.759 to where they don't need to consume as much as 387 00:23:07.880 --> 00:23:12.880 often as we would, or a dog or anything like that. 388 00:23:12.920 --> 00:23:15.640 But there's animals out there that they could go extend 389 00:23:15.680 --> 00:23:22.079 the amounts of time without consuming a lot of food. Water. Yeah, 390 00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:24.160 that's a given fact, you know, as far as that. 391 00:23:24.640 --> 00:23:27.720 But I believe they are omnivores. I believe they eat both, 392 00:23:28.039 --> 00:23:29.920 you know, plant and meat. 393 00:23:31.839 --> 00:23:35.799 Yeah that makes sense because I mean, you know, I 394 00:23:35.839 --> 00:23:39.359 mean both sources are available, so I mean, you know, 395 00:23:39.480 --> 00:23:42.039 maybe they enjoy one bore or the other, or versus 396 00:23:42.119 --> 00:23:44.200 certain times of the year, one's more available than the 397 00:23:44.240 --> 00:23:46.359 other anyways, or easier access. 398 00:23:47.039 --> 00:23:49.920 And then language, I mean you got to share sounds 399 00:23:49.920 --> 00:23:53.599 and other recordings of stuff like that. If there's if 400 00:23:53.599 --> 00:23:57.640 there's the smartest I think they should be, they would 401 00:23:57.640 --> 00:24:01.319 have language. I just wish we had more even thans 402 00:24:01.319 --> 00:24:03.599 of it. Even though there's stuff out there that people 403 00:24:03.640 --> 00:24:07.960 can't pinpoints, even people that are experts in the electric 404 00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:11.200 sound electronics and stuff like that, they can't say what 405 00:24:11.400 --> 00:24:14.519 it is. But the case say what it isn't everything 406 00:24:14.559 --> 00:24:19.599 they compared either hair samples or those sound recordings from 407 00:24:19.720 --> 00:24:22.240 there's nothing known in their database to be able to 408 00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:26.160 compare it to now fascinating. 409 00:24:26.599 --> 00:24:33.119 Yeah, you talk about sounds and everything, uh, based off 410 00:24:33.160 --> 00:24:36.519 of our time out in the woods camping, you know, 411 00:24:36.799 --> 00:24:42.160 and exploring and everything. Uh, do you guys recall hearing 412 00:24:42.240 --> 00:24:45.039 anything that you guys possibly could not you know, like 413 00:24:45.039 --> 00:24:46.720 as far as some of the sounds we've always heard 414 00:24:46.759 --> 00:24:49.359 out there, because there's been times where you may have 415 00:24:49.440 --> 00:24:51.440 heard things and I didn't. 416 00:24:52.079 --> 00:24:54.079 Is there anything that you guys may have heard that 417 00:24:54.119 --> 00:24:57.559 you can't identify or that you still wonder about? 418 00:24:57.680 --> 00:25:02.960 For me, not enough to where it would really raise 419 00:25:03.079 --> 00:25:05.519 a big suspicion. I mean like I told you, I 420 00:25:05.519 --> 00:25:07.920 mentioned the other night you thought you heard that one 421 00:25:08.039 --> 00:25:10.599 sound off of the distance. I was able to pull 422 00:25:10.640 --> 00:25:14.000 it off of my cam because she had recorded that, 423 00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:18.519 but I had to eight times the volume of the 424 00:25:18.599 --> 00:25:20.839 sound where you could off of the distance here like 425 00:25:20.880 --> 00:25:25.359 a sort of drawn out I want to say whoop, 426 00:25:25.440 --> 00:25:27.480 but you really can't say a whoop. It was just 427 00:25:28.759 --> 00:25:32.559 it's hard to describe on that. But again with a 428 00:25:32.640 --> 00:25:36.039 distance it was that. Could it have been a howl 429 00:25:36.079 --> 00:25:39.559 from a dog, absolutely, but I can't say it was 430 00:25:39.680 --> 00:25:41.839 or wasn't it be just something they call your attention. 431 00:25:42.039 --> 00:25:45.839 I just happened to catch while she was recording. I 432 00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:48.720 did get some either some pretty good rock clangs or 433 00:25:48.759 --> 00:25:51.559 a tree knock a couple of times when we were 434 00:25:51.559 --> 00:25:54.680 out camping, which I got on audio. I do have 435 00:25:54.759 --> 00:25:57.559 other things on audio that just sounds weird. But again, 436 00:25:58.400 --> 00:26:00.480 one thing I'm going to start doing if I go 437 00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:03.839 out set a recorder overnight, because I find it frustrating 438 00:26:04.640 --> 00:26:07.039 where I get these weird sounds on the auto recorder. 439 00:26:08.319 --> 00:26:11.839 That's all I got. So when spring gets here, I'm 440 00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:13.880 going to order me two more of my trail camps, 441 00:26:13.880 --> 00:26:16.960 and I like it's got to sound with it. Oh yeah, 442 00:26:17.319 --> 00:26:21.039 for every whenever I put out an audio recorder overnight, 443 00:26:21.240 --> 00:26:24.519 I'm going to pair that with a trail camp about 444 00:26:24.559 --> 00:26:28.079 ten to twenty yards away from it. That way, if 445 00:26:28.119 --> 00:26:31.640 something comes up by the mic, as from what I've 446 00:26:31.799 --> 00:26:34.079 kept it in the past, I will be able to 447 00:26:34.079 --> 00:26:37.640 catch catch something on the trail camp, because I now 448 00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:41.960 I hate getting stuff on audio that you want to 449 00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:46.279 think it's something? Isn't an animal? Is it not? What 450 00:26:46.480 --> 00:26:50.160 is a breathing by it? Is it? Yeah? I want 451 00:26:50.240 --> 00:26:54.240 my trail camps. Something was walking behind a trail camp, Yes, 452 00:26:54.279 --> 00:26:56.079 that could be a deer. Okay, I'm not going to 453 00:26:56.200 --> 00:26:58.559 go off of that cliff and saying something was walking 454 00:26:58.599 --> 00:27:00.279 behind it. It had to be a big foot. I 455 00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:03.279 can't do that without any proof, but I'm gonna start 456 00:27:03.319 --> 00:27:06.799 pairing up my auto recorders with the trail came. That way, 457 00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:11.440 if something does come up by the audio recorder, I 458 00:27:11.480 --> 00:27:15.519 could get audio and video of something close by, whether 459 00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:18.240 it be a bare bigfoot, whatever the case may be. 460 00:27:19.119 --> 00:27:22.359 Some of the scratching I finally figured out was one 461 00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:24.519 not when I had an audio recorder out, I did 462 00:27:24.599 --> 00:27:28.680 not realize that sometimes insects would migrate up around it. 463 00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:32.440 And these are on cool nights, and I was wondering, 464 00:27:32.440 --> 00:27:34.799 why the heck are they doing that. Well, again, we 465 00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:36.640 may not be able to tell much, but the aud 466 00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:40.640 recorder when it's running gets a little warm and the 467 00:27:40.759 --> 00:27:43.759 heat would draw insects to it, and they were crawling 468 00:27:43.799 --> 00:27:47.799 on it, making these scratchy sounds. And I had it on. 469 00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:50.880 I pull it up with audio and I could hear it. Well, 470 00:27:50.880 --> 00:27:55.079 that was insects on that. But I've got other things 471 00:27:55.079 --> 00:27:59.000 not an insect. I don't know what's creating no sounds. 472 00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:01.359 So hopefully by pairing them up, I might be able 473 00:28:01.400 --> 00:28:03.799 to come up with some more answers with that, one 474 00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:05.599 question leads it to another, and you come up with 475 00:28:05.680 --> 00:28:09.160 more ideas. And yeah, I might be spending a couple 476 00:28:09.240 --> 00:28:11.359 more dollars since you ain't put me onto that yet. 477 00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:14.839 I need to get because I want my dedicated trill camps. 478 00:28:14.920 --> 00:28:16.960 But when I said that one or two auto recorders, 479 00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:18.799 I want to at least have enough to pare them 480 00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:23.599 up that way when they overlap. Maybe that leads of creeten, 481 00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:25.279 so you know more of what we're doing out there, 482 00:28:25.319 --> 00:28:28.359 or at least prove something or prove what it is. 483 00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:32.559 Bear another type of animal, whatever the case may be. 484 00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:37.599 So if it don't get close enough to the auto recorder, 485 00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:39.359 at least I got a trill cam out there for 486 00:28:39.519 --> 00:28:42.559 that by kind of without making any sound. 487 00:28:42.640 --> 00:28:45.519 So see, that's why it's important. 488 00:28:47.079 --> 00:28:49.519 When you're trying to do your investigation, trying to rule 489 00:28:49.559 --> 00:28:52.599 out stuff, because even in a simple little creepy crawley 490 00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:58.480 creature can affect your investigation. It can rule something out. 491 00:28:58.640 --> 00:29:03.759 Because it's the same way he's talking about the insects 492 00:29:04.039 --> 00:29:06.480 with the heat on the mics and stuff, and with 493 00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:09.559 the recorders. Well, the same thing happens in the paranormal 494 00:29:09.640 --> 00:29:13.200 part where you have your rampods. All it takes is 495 00:29:13.240 --> 00:29:16.079 a simple teeny tiny little bug to land on that 496 00:29:16.160 --> 00:29:17.599 antenna and. 497 00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:18.960 It'll set it off. 498 00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:22.400 But you gotta make sure you rule all of that 499 00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:25.039 out before you you know, and you come to a 500 00:29:25.079 --> 00:29:27.279 conclusion that you don't know what it is because you've 501 00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:29.400 ruled out everything that you can possibly think. 502 00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:33.960 Of, right, because I proved that one night in the graveyard, 503 00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:37.519 and if I hadn't seen it, I mean it was 504 00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:40.039 it was. It was almost smaller than a fleet. Everybody 505 00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:43.480 knows about how big a flea is. By an insect 506 00:29:43.759 --> 00:29:45.559 if I didn't walk up to it to see it 507 00:29:46.359 --> 00:29:49.160 land on it, come and fly around, land on it again. 508 00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:51.960 Every time they did that land on it, it would 509 00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:55.400 cause a rimpod to go off. If I was standing 510 00:29:55.480 --> 00:29:58.920 twenty thirty forty yards back and watching it go off, 511 00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:02.279 I would think something str to communicate with it. You 512 00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:05.240 see where I'm going with that. Now, if you go 513 00:30:05.319 --> 00:30:07.799 set up a rimpod, I like to have some kind 514 00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:12.279 of camera set on that to rule that aspect out, 515 00:30:12.319 --> 00:30:14.680 because remember, we got lizards out there in the woods, 516 00:30:14.759 --> 00:30:17.960 we got insects out there in the woods. Anything. If 517 00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:19.599 you're not right there by it to be able to 518 00:30:19.680 --> 00:30:23.279 rule that out, you can't say what it is now 519 00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:25.240 if you got a camera on it to record it 520 00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:27.279 when it goes off, if there's nothing around it, and 521 00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:31.119 now you may have something to look into, but a 522 00:30:31.160 --> 00:30:33.839 lot of people and radio frequencies too. I noticed that 523 00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:36.759 with that rimpod when I was back at camp, when 524 00:30:36.759 --> 00:30:40.119 you already hiking. Every time I keep that mic, it 525 00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:42.359 didn't make the tone go off, but it's set the 526 00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:45.680 lights off. Every time I keep my radio, the lights 527 00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:50.160 would go off. And that's why I'm to watch on TV. 528 00:30:50.319 --> 00:30:53.920 If they got all this electronic equipment around and somebody 529 00:30:54.079 --> 00:30:56.920 key something that's going to match one of the frequencies 530 00:30:56.960 --> 00:31:00.599 on that rimpod. It's going to start going off. But 531 00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:05.119 the viewers aren't going to see that. The investigators may 532 00:31:05.160 --> 00:31:08.960 not see it and be misled. You follow what I'm saying, right, 533 00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:12.640 It didn't make the tones go off. It just made 534 00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:16.599 the lights go off. Now if the tones go off 535 00:31:16.720 --> 00:31:19.519 with the lights, now that's gonna be something different because 536 00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:22.599 I ruled the lights can be controlled by the radio frequencies, 537 00:31:23.160 --> 00:31:26.680 but the tone doesn't. Okay, they got two different aspects 538 00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:31.680 aspects aspects aspects to look at on that aspect of it. 539 00:31:31.720 --> 00:31:34.759 But again we're getting off the beaten path here on 540 00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:37.000 that aspect. But you got to It just goes back 541 00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:39.759 to you got to like you always say, you've got 542 00:31:39.799 --> 00:31:42.279 to know the known before you look for the unknown 543 00:31:42.359 --> 00:31:45.680 or something or whatever phrase you say on that, know 544 00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:47.599 the nome before you look for the unknown. Is that 545 00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:48.160 what you say? 546 00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:51.720 So learn, Yeah, learn and know what is known before seeking. 547 00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:54.680 Yet exactly that's why when you go out with the equipment, 548 00:31:54.839 --> 00:31:57.440 know how the equipment works, what to expect from it, 549 00:31:57.920 --> 00:32:00.160 what can interfere with it, and some of that is 550 00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:03.200 gonna be trialing there. Don't get me wrong, you right 551 00:32:03.240 --> 00:32:05.240 off the bat. I mean I found that one bug 552 00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:08.599 doing that by mistake, and then the radio frequency keying 553 00:32:08.720 --> 00:32:11.839 up the rampod lights by by mistake, by actually being 554 00:32:11.839 --> 00:32:15.200 out there doing a research, and during that I've seen 555 00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:17.680 what was happening. So you know you're gonna learn that 556 00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:18.079 as you go. 557 00:32:18.759 --> 00:32:20.680 Well, let me ask you a quick question about that. 558 00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:23.440 I mean, just something you would know. 559 00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:23.640 Now. 560 00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:26.920 I know there is a sensitivity adjustment. 561 00:32:26.759 --> 00:32:27.720 Or setting on it. 562 00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:30.880 You can put it super super sensitive to having it. 563 00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:32.799 I mean, how does that work? I mean, and will 564 00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:33.559 that place? 565 00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:40.599 I think Jeremy's has three settings. You got super sensitive 566 00:32:40.759 --> 00:32:42.599 and then you could tone it down a little bit 567 00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:44.559 to where it takes a lot more to be able 568 00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:46.240 to set it off. And he had is on the 569 00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:49.960 highest setting for sensitivity. Okay, I did not try the 570 00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:52.359 other two. I just observed what I did when it 571 00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:57.559 was on the highest sensitivity. I don't have a rampod 572 00:32:57.640 --> 00:32:59.920 that belongs to a sun. If we ever get one, 573 00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:02.599 or next time I get his, I'm going to try 574 00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:06.960 that to see how sincely that is. As far as 575 00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:09.960 the radio frequency or something setting it off with the 576 00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:12.359 tone and the lights. But I'm gonna have to get 577 00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:14.119 my hands on again to be able to play with 578 00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:17.039 the settings on that. See one thing that always leads 579 00:33:17.039 --> 00:33:20.240 it to another. It never fails. But you want to know, 580 00:33:20.440 --> 00:33:22.640 I mean, you can't take everything for granted. You know, 581 00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:25.880 now if you start asking questions, you know no radios 582 00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:30.720 are going on. You get My viewpoint is if the 583 00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:33.240 lights go off, I'm not paying attention to it based 584 00:33:33.279 --> 00:33:36.079 on the radio frequency, because how do I know something 585 00:33:36.119 --> 00:33:38.799 may not be a mile away like a CB radio 586 00:33:38.880 --> 00:33:40.920 transmitting that higher power setting it off. 587 00:33:41.240 --> 00:33:46.920 Yeah, if the lights go off and then you have 588 00:33:46.960 --> 00:33:50.640 a tone with it, that's going to be different. 589 00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:54.960 Maybe look at that. If you're asking specific questions now, 590 00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:57.200 don't mean you ask a question and then you wait 591 00:33:57.240 --> 00:34:01.319 two minutes to get a response. Yeah, how immediate is 592 00:34:01.319 --> 00:34:06.519 a response? If you're using one of those voice boxes, 593 00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:12.280 whatever message comes across, is it in relation to what 594 00:34:12.440 --> 00:34:16.559 you're doing? If it's just stuff coming out of random 595 00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:19.320 you're sitting in the woods and they're talking about a 596 00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:22.039 cruise ship, no, I'm not gonna listen to that. You can't, 597 00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:25.760 you know what I mean. But if it's if specific 598 00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:30.039 based on the questions you're asking and how often then 599 00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:33.239 you may have something going on there. I believe in 600 00:34:33.239 --> 00:34:36.000 the paranormal. We've experienced it. We've got it on recordings, 601 00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:38.320 our hair being manipulated a couple of times, things have 602 00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:40.840 heard in the past, more than one people saying it, 603 00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:44.960 witnessing it. There's things going on that people don't realize 604 00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:47.400 what's going on. And now we got involved with you 605 00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:49.760 with a bigger foot research. We wasn't going to bring 606 00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:54.400 the paranormal into it until this past summer when we 607 00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:58.800 started having the experiences we have when the last two campouts. 608 00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:01.679 Why we're having that out there now, I have no 609 00:35:01.800 --> 00:35:05.000 idea hopefully to continue. We won't know until we go 610 00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:08.320 back out there. But we're still big digging up history 611 00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:10.280 on the place out there too. We just don't know 612 00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:14.159 what's going on as far as why those things happened 613 00:35:14.199 --> 00:35:17.159 while we were there, but more than one person witnessed, 614 00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:19.920 so it's not a figure of your imagination, right. 615 00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:21.440 Look, one thing. 616 00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:24.480 You just mentioned this or you know, digging up the 617 00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:27.719 history and everything now, But those who've been following the 618 00:35:27.800 --> 00:35:32.440 information that we were sharing about this location, there are foundations, 619 00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:35.599 there's remnants the old homestead foundations out there. 620 00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:43.039 Now, I did a research, you know, on how did 621 00:35:43.079 --> 00:35:43.639 I look it up? 622 00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:46.360 Now this is not pinpoint in this location, but it's 623 00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:50.400 just speaking about when I guess I did a research 624 00:35:50.440 --> 00:35:55.920 on why are there foundations the old homesteads left in 625 00:35:56.159 --> 00:35:59.280 the woods of Virginia, And some of the information I 626 00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:02.280 read up would have been there was a number of things. 627 00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:03.599 One of the things where. 628 00:36:03.639 --> 00:36:07.480 They may have been old homes to where uh, you know, 629 00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:08.400 something to do. 630 00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:13.039 With the Civil War, Uh, you know, the simple farmers, oh, 631 00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:14.480 even moonshiners. 632 00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:15.119 Uh. 633 00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:18.440 And then some of the what were something to do 634 00:36:18.480 --> 00:36:20.639 with slavery or slaving people. You know, there were slave 635 00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:24.360 homes or something. And why are they you know, why 636 00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:26.000 are they not there? I mean it could have been 637 00:36:26.039 --> 00:36:29.079 from because so many years ago. A lot of these 638 00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:32.880 homes or shacks they were built. Uh they may have 639 00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:34.280 started with a stone or a. 640 00:36:35.199 --> 00:36:38.639 Stone or a a certain type of brick foundation to 641 00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:39.679 wear the rest of the home. 642 00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:45.000 They weren't used with proper wood or you know that 643 00:36:45.159 --> 00:36:48.760 was made for a home back then, where they either 644 00:36:48.840 --> 00:36:51.800 rotted out decayed over time. Uh, some of them got 645 00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:54.360 in some cases, some of them may have got burnt down, 646 00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:54.880 you know. 647 00:36:56.239 --> 00:36:57.599 I mean, there was so many different things. 648 00:36:57.639 --> 00:36:59.079 I can't remember them all, but there was a lot 649 00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:03.599 of information on some of the Why there's only foundations 650 00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:05.280 of homesteads left in Virginia. 651 00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:07.639 Well, that's just the foundations you're talking about. Yet you 652 00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:12.679 got to keep in mind too, is how many people 653 00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:15.519 lived back there that didn't use rocks to build homes 654 00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:20.440 with for foundations. That's your Native American history. How many 655 00:37:20.519 --> 00:37:24.400 Native Americans living around the area. How many burial grounds 656 00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:26.079 are out there that we don't know about. How many 657 00:37:26.079 --> 00:37:28.360 people would die and buried out there. We don't know 658 00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:32.320 about exactly how many people died out there and wasn't 659 00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:35.519 able to be buried because nobody knew they were there, right, 660 00:37:36.119 --> 00:37:40.039 I mean all of that. I mean that's I was 661 00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:42.480 out metal detecting several years ago at a friend's house 662 00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:44.280 and now in the middle of his field, I found 663 00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:49.599 a large scent from the seventeen hundreds. It's pretty much obliterated. 664 00:37:49.679 --> 00:37:51.400 He really couldn't tell what it was. I couldn't even 665 00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:53.199 get all the dates off of them based on the 666 00:37:54.039 --> 00:37:55.559 bust of it and everything. I tell it was a 667 00:37:55.639 --> 00:38:00.320 large scent. How did that get in that ground? It's 668 00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:04.119 at least from the seventeen hundreds. Did somebody die there 669 00:38:04.519 --> 00:38:08.119 to fall out somebody's pocket when they were maybe plowing 670 00:38:08.199 --> 00:38:11.840 the ground. We don't know. There's so many possibilities out 671 00:38:11.880 --> 00:38:17.159 there that we're just gonna keep researching and see what's 672 00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:19.000 happening out there. I mean, there may be things out 673 00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:21.800 there we don't know about that nobody wants you to 674 00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:25.639 know about. I'm not saying government wise, I'm not going 675 00:38:25.719 --> 00:38:29.840 to get no conspiracy theories or nothing like that. But 676 00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:32.079 if you look at other areas where they could have 677 00:38:32.159 --> 00:38:35.159 been out there doing research and sometime maybe I mean 678 00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:37.880 I look at the OBL, Kentucky land between the lakes. 679 00:38:38.440 --> 00:38:41.960 You evernment came in, ran the people out that didn't 680 00:38:41.960 --> 00:38:44.960 want to sell the property to them, and there's old 681 00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:47.840 remnants of foundations when the government was used to be 682 00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:49.960 back in the OBL back way back in the day. 683 00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:52.840 I think it was after early in the twenties or 684 00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:55.000 thirties or something like that. People can look up the 685 00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:56.280 history of the OBL. 686 00:38:58.159 --> 00:39:01.039 Be just like with Shadow Nast Park. 687 00:39:01.519 --> 00:39:06.400 Yeah, the government they went in, they decided they wanted 688 00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:10.199 that land. They first tried to purchase it for you know, 689 00:39:10.920 --> 00:39:15.360 from the homeowners that lived there, their whole family for 690 00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:18.039 generations have lived there on that land. It was their land, 691 00:39:18.119 --> 00:39:20.800 and when they went and sell to it, they claimed 692 00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:25.039 imminent domain and they took it, ran them all out. 693 00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:29.119 And I don't know what the George Washington National Forest, 694 00:39:29.159 --> 00:39:33.079 I don't know what the circumstances of that was. But 695 00:39:33.480 --> 00:39:36.920 you know, there's always been people living in rural areas, 696 00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:40.440 you know, traveling on horseback and stuff way back in 697 00:39:40.519 --> 00:39:44.719 the in them days before we had paved roads and stuff, 698 00:39:44.840 --> 00:39:50.000 everything was dirt, and you know, it's very possible that's 699 00:39:50.199 --> 00:39:54.719 why some of those homestead foundations are there because of 700 00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:55.360 that reason. 701 00:39:56.199 --> 00:39:56.960 But we don't know. 702 00:39:57.119 --> 00:40:00.000 Well, national Park along the ridge line up where people 703 00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:02.559 to drive all the time, they wanted that for to 704 00:40:02.679 --> 00:40:05.119 make it a national park. Now, if they had other 705 00:40:05.159 --> 00:40:08.400 reasons for it, we don't. We don't know. But they 706 00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:11.119 wanted to make in a national park, which was a 707 00:40:11.119 --> 00:40:14.760 good thing. But how they went about it a lot 708 00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:17.400 of people disagree with. And you're gonna have that anywhere. 709 00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:19.760 But let's get going down to the politics side or 710 00:40:19.760 --> 00:40:23.760 the everyone's side and what not. Let's stay on the 711 00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:27.480 topic that we're here for. With a bigfoot and stuff 712 00:40:27.519 --> 00:40:28.559 like that. 713 00:40:28.840 --> 00:40:30.840 Yeah, I mean, I don't mind getting in to you. 714 00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:33.239 Know, branching off and discussing fingers, bringing things up for 715 00:40:33.320 --> 00:40:36.280 various reasons, for purposes. I mean, I'm totally cool with that. 716 00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:40.000 It kind of gives us, the listeners, the audience a 717 00:40:40.039 --> 00:40:44.519 little bit of a Okay, well, not everyone believes or 718 00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:48.079 wants to go down that path. But you know, like 719 00:40:48.159 --> 00:40:51.039 you said, you guys, when you guys got involved with me, 720 00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:53.440 you guys weren't trying to bring that with you. But 721 00:40:53.719 --> 00:40:55.760 look at I mean, like you said, there are things 722 00:40:55.760 --> 00:40:59.440 that happen. You know, there are things that we can't explain, 723 00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:02.800 things that we're trying to make sense of that happened there. 724 00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:05.360 I mean, you know, I had nothing to do with it, 725 00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:08.079 but you know there are things that I'm with you guys. 726 00:41:08.119 --> 00:41:11.280 We're all experiencing it together. So it's just like, you know, 727 00:41:11.320 --> 00:41:14.119 we're scratching our head, like what what is this? 728 00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:18.639 You know, I mean, we're especially a campus sit back, 729 00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:22.239 you know, hanging out around the campfire, and things are happening. 730 00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:27.079 Okay, you know it's whatever, but it's happening. So I mean, 731 00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:28.320 we can't deny it. 732 00:41:28.599 --> 00:41:31.199 So well, no, you can't deny it. But what I 733 00:41:31.320 --> 00:41:33.760 find in trigguing is we all still keep going back. 734 00:41:33.800 --> 00:41:36.159 We know it took her tail to run from. Yeah. 735 00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:39.840 How many we want to be taken out of our norm? 736 00:41:40.159 --> 00:41:42.360 But the other people, a lot of other people you get, 737 00:41:42.519 --> 00:41:45.920 you take their normal way, their life falls apart, you 738 00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:48.320 know what I mean. I mean not to criticize them. 739 00:41:48.360 --> 00:41:52.800 I mean that's just the way people are. But I 740 00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:56.079 like that challenge, you know, to be taken out of 741 00:41:56.119 --> 00:42:00.360 my norm because to me, it's not only expanding knowledge, 742 00:42:01.079 --> 00:42:05.039 but on the quest of trying to find answers and 743 00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:10.320 experiencing what we're experiencing at the moment for no logical 744 00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:13.679 reason that we know of, but yet we keep going 745 00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:17.159 back to try to find those answers. Yeah, things did 746 00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:25.280 happen and why did they happen? Things that should not happen. Uh, fascinating. 747 00:42:25.320 --> 00:42:28.760 I I like the challenge. 748 00:42:29.159 --> 00:42:31.840 Yeah, absolutely, Daniel. 749 00:42:31.960 --> 00:42:37.920 In the group chat, there is a Robert Dan Dubn Yeah, 750 00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:40.480 has said three comments. 751 00:42:39.960 --> 00:42:42.440 Now, yeah, bring I'll bring them back up on the screen. 752 00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:46.199 I think the last one is the question, which. 753 00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:50.039 Yeah, because the first one's he said, I've been listening 754 00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:51.880 a while getting. 755 00:42:51.639 --> 00:42:52.199 Some work done. 756 00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:55.159 I think some bigfoot move around in area, maybe as 757 00:42:55.239 --> 00:43:00.159 large as one hundred miles square miles whatever. Someone who 758 00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:04.039 has them on their land has seen them appear mainly 759 00:43:04.280 --> 00:43:06.079 in certain times of the year. 760 00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:08.920 They move. 761 00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:11.239 Yeah, they move for food like berries in spring and 762 00:43:11.320 --> 00:43:14.199 early summer and then farmfields. 763 00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:16.239 During harvest time. Yeah, makes sense. 764 00:43:17.519 --> 00:43:18.360 Well, one of the. 765 00:43:18.239 --> 00:43:21.480 Things to it, you know, keep in mind that, you know, 766 00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:23.719 it's believed, and I do believe that they feed off 767 00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:25.960 like deer is a food source for them, along with 768 00:43:26.039 --> 00:43:29.800 other predators. They feed off the deer prey and maybe 769 00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:30.800 other small mammals. 770 00:43:31.639 --> 00:43:34.679 Uh, you know, think about the conditions of the weather, 771 00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:39.119 the seasons, like if the winners are harsh, you know, 772 00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:42.599 and and and food sources become scarce for the prey 773 00:43:42.639 --> 00:43:47.320 animals if they have to move to find food where 774 00:43:47.320 --> 00:43:51.400 it's available, I mean, in that instance or that for 775 00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:53.480 that reason, I believe that the predators are going to 776 00:43:53.559 --> 00:43:55.880 follow or you know, over time they learned where to 777 00:43:55.880 --> 00:43:58.440 travel and move or follow the prey if that's what 778 00:43:58.519 --> 00:44:01.559 they if that's their main food, so you know, So, 779 00:44:01.719 --> 00:44:04.039 I mean, I do believe they do move according you know, 780 00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:06.000 if it's necessary, you know, because. 781 00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:09.639 Sources become limited. Again, it depends on how harsh the 782 00:44:09.719 --> 00:44:12.320 seasons are, you know, but. 783 00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:16.960 My question is here in Virginia. I can't speak for 784 00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:20.159 the rest of the country, but were we're located at, 785 00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:25.800 how many prey animals actually move Do either hunt it 786 00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:28.679 down to wait out the weather? Yeah, there is to 787 00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:31.000 go on to semi hibernation mode. I don't think the 788 00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:34.719 hibernate year around. I think the weather dictates it between Yeah, 789 00:44:34.840 --> 00:44:37.880 and who's to say they may not be the same 790 00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:40.320 way if they if they got a different metabolism sor 791 00:44:40.719 --> 00:44:43.960 I mean, I'm just throwing that out there. I mean, 792 00:44:44.280 --> 00:44:47.159 you don't see deer migrating from northern Virginia down to 793 00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:50.840 southern Virginia Georgia. When it gets cold, they bed down, 794 00:44:50.840 --> 00:44:52.800 the hunker down. When they go out and feed, they 795 00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:54.639 dig through the snow to get down to the ground 796 00:44:54.679 --> 00:44:56.599 to get the stuff frozen on the ground and eat 797 00:44:57.119 --> 00:45:00.440 right that they can find. Unless you know something different, 798 00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:03.159 I mean, I mean, I did a lot more research 799 00:45:03.199 --> 00:45:04.800 in that area than I did well. 800 00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:06.840 As far as like deer in general, Yeah, I mean, 801 00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:09.840 I'm not saying they strictly migrate or that they actually do, 802 00:45:09.960 --> 00:45:12.559 but I believe that some there are some species of 803 00:45:12.639 --> 00:45:16.320 animals over a period of time have moved around from 804 00:45:16.400 --> 00:45:20.760 up north, down south and actually settled down here, you know, 805 00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:23.719 and they end up becoming a popular age over time. 806 00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:27.280 For example, the red wolves. You know, there's been sightings 807 00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:28.599 of wolves here in Virginia and. 808 00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:33.679 Surrounding areas of West Virginia whatnot. You know, they again, 809 00:45:33.719 --> 00:45:37.239 they've been sighted here and you know, what brought him 810 00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:39.480 down here, I don't know, but they've over a period 811 00:45:39.519 --> 00:45:42.079 of time, you know, according to the research. Some of 812 00:45:42.079 --> 00:45:45.840 the information I have found online is they actually do 813 00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:48.159 the red wolves in general have moved down south. 814 00:45:48.519 --> 00:45:52.079 They're more mainly from northern the northern part of the county, 815 00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:55.280 you know, the country, maybe some out west now the 816 00:45:55.360 --> 00:45:57.840 mountain lying now that's a whole different story right there. 817 00:45:58.559 --> 00:46:00.360 You know, even though the authority say we don't have 818 00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:03.400 them here, but there's been so many eyewitnesses left and right, 819 00:46:03.480 --> 00:46:04.679 you know, throughout. 820 00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:09.559 Our counties here in other parts of the states. I 821 00:46:09.599 --> 00:46:12.800 knew a friend of mine, she lives down in Bedford. 822 00:46:13.239 --> 00:46:15.000 She said she almost hit one with her car. 823 00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:15.840 You know. 824 00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:20.039 But the thing is, as far as how they got here, 825 00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:22.239 there could be a number of reasons how they got here, 826 00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:22.719 you know. 827 00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:24.280 You know. 828 00:46:24.320 --> 00:46:26.639 The one thing about a mountain lion I've heard, and. 829 00:46:26.679 --> 00:46:29.480 I don't know if this goes for other species. For 830 00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:32.920 the mountain lion, for example, if they have a toothache, 831 00:46:33.599 --> 00:46:37.800 you know, the one way they deal with it and 832 00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:42.719 they run. They build up adrenaline and run and by running, 833 00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:46.000 and they will run for miles and miles and miles 834 00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:48.920 from what I read and research, and. 835 00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:53.440 You know, coming I don't know where they come from originally, 836 00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:56.800 but eventually then they could end up in other territories 837 00:46:56.800 --> 00:46:58.840 that they're not normally known for being at. 838 00:46:58.960 --> 00:46:59.159 You know. 839 00:47:01.239 --> 00:47:04.519 You know, that's something I think about sometimes, like, Okay, 840 00:47:04.519 --> 00:47:08.000 maybe they got here that way or perhaps some years 841 00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:12.960 ago from I've actually heard from some locals that heard 842 00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:16.119 from a source that was retired from a Howard higher 843 00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:20.360 source that where there's may. 844 00:47:20.119 --> 00:47:22.719 Male and female that will release. 845 00:47:23.840 --> 00:47:28.119 Untagged uh and then over time started populating. 846 00:47:28.519 --> 00:47:31.719 And you know, that's another thing that's a possibility there. 847 00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:34.239 I don't know if there's any truth behind that, but 848 00:47:35.079 --> 00:47:36.719 there's so many different things we can look at. 849 00:47:36.840 --> 00:47:39.599 So I guess see one male and one female doing that, 850 00:47:39.679 --> 00:47:42.119 because you've got to have the DNA base to beget 851 00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:45.960 a valuable population for breeding. In my opinion, I mean, 852 00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:49.559 I'm not a scientist as far as all that, but uh, 853 00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:52.559 I just think it's natural expansion myself when it comes 854 00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:54.760 to that, and I think some of them have always 855 00:47:54.800 --> 00:47:57.440 been here. They thought maybe they've wiped them all out 856 00:47:57.519 --> 00:48:02.840 years back as they used to be here from understandings, 857 00:48:03.400 --> 00:48:05.760 just starting to come back to where it's not as sparsely. 858 00:48:05.840 --> 00:48:08.599 We got a lot of woodland here, And I've seen 859 00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:12.639 a program the other day where scientists saying about of 860 00:48:12.679 --> 00:48:17.599 all the woodland and the forests in the US, each year, 861 00:48:17.800 --> 00:48:21.800 only about ten to twelve percent of it is actually 862 00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:28.199 visited by humans, whether it be for hunting, hiking, recreation, 863 00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:32.239 ten to twelve percent of it on a regular basis 864 00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:35.519 is being visited by humans. So if we if that's 865 00:48:35.519 --> 00:48:39.320 such a small percentage of people going into what we have, 866 00:48:40.639 --> 00:48:44.639 natural expansion could also explain some of that that's going on. 867 00:48:46.239 --> 00:48:48.880 And that's my opinion. Though as far as. 868 00:48:48.719 --> 00:48:51.559 That sounds like we need to up that percentage. 869 00:48:53.320 --> 00:48:56.559 You would thank down here. I mean, don't forget about 870 00:48:56.559 --> 00:48:58.360 four one one people come up missing. 871 00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:02.639 Yeah, but hey, you don't have to say safety or 872 00:49:02.639 --> 00:49:04.079 in numbers. So let's all go together. 873 00:49:05.840 --> 00:49:07.800 People come up listen. I don't know how big a 874 00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:10.000 groupe is like three or four people that's never been 875 00:49:10.039 --> 00:49:13.920 found again too. I mean there's other stories behind that stuff, 876 00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:18.719 theories you know why that may be. But my biggest 877 00:49:18.760 --> 00:49:21.079 thing is we still have a lot of the what's 878 00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:24.639 the old people that not old people, but the people 879 00:49:25.239 --> 00:49:28.880 I don't mean hillbillies. But there's another name for other 880 00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:33.800 people that live Pioneers off the grid. No, they they 881 00:49:33.880 --> 00:49:40.119 live off the grid. Uh, not the Hillbillies, they stated themselves. 882 00:49:40.280 --> 00:49:45.559 There's a name for it. No, there's something. It's right 883 00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:47.039 on the tip of my tongue, but I can't bring 884 00:49:47.039 --> 00:49:49.199 it up. And people always say when you go out 885 00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:51.559 in the woods, especially by yourself and one another person, 886 00:49:51.719 --> 00:49:53.400 be wary of these people that are out there. 887 00:49:54.519 --> 00:49:58.159 Uh, you're not talking about hobbits, are you. 888 00:49:58.199 --> 00:50:04.280 No? No, No, really, they're supposedly they're they're real people. 889 00:50:05.320 --> 00:50:14.239 They don't mingle with normal civilization. They live off the grid, 890 00:50:14.639 --> 00:50:19.800 rarely seen. Uh maybe somebody in the chap might know 891 00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:22.360 know the terminology I'm looking for, But they say you 892 00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:25.199 gotta watch out for There's many reports of people running 893 00:50:25.199 --> 00:50:27.880 into people like that out there, and it didn't fare 894 00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:32.880 too well in many cases. Try to tip of my tongue. 895 00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:34.800 I don't. 896 00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:36.199 I just did a quick research. 897 00:50:36.639 --> 00:50:36.760 Uh. 898 00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:41.119 People who live away from civilization. 899 00:50:40.480 --> 00:50:43.880 Are often called a hermit or recluse if they live 900 00:50:44.000 --> 00:50:48.679 in a voluntary solitude, dude, off off gridder for those 901 00:50:48.719 --> 00:50:51.559 independent of public utility, or backwoodsmen or a mountaineer. 902 00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:56.719 No, everybody knows what hermits and off gridders and stuff 903 00:50:56.760 --> 00:51:02.039 like that is. It's you ever seen the movie Wrong, Ah, Yeah, 904 00:51:02.960 --> 00:51:06.360 something like that where they just solely that they don't 905 00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:10.440 mingle with everyday people. They stay out and off the 906 00:51:10.440 --> 00:51:16.199 grid in the woods. Uh. I didn't know. I won't 907 00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:19.280 take it down that path now when we hang everything 908 00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:20.960 up to now, that probably comes to my head. But 909 00:51:21.840 --> 00:51:24.400 there's a certain name that's called for them. I don't 910 00:51:24.440 --> 00:51:26.280 know if anybody's responding on a chatter or not, they 911 00:51:26.320 --> 00:51:27.960 might know what I'm talking about. Now. 912 00:51:27.960 --> 00:51:30.000 There's a list of names here too. This one here 913 00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:34.840 it's a feral people. Well, Pharaoh fair, Okay, that could 914 00:51:34.880 --> 00:51:36.719 be a name Pharaoh. 915 00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:38.480 This there's a name. 916 00:51:38.559 --> 00:51:41.480 It's a technical name for caved weiler, often used to 917 00:51:41.519 --> 00:51:44.960 describe someone living in a total isolation. The names called 918 00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:47.239 and again, I don't know if I'm pronouncing this correctly. 919 00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:50.480 I'm gonna try my best. 920 00:51:51.960 --> 00:51:53.480 I don't know why I went down that path, but 921 00:51:53.559 --> 00:51:54.840 I mean, for one one got. 922 00:51:58.440 --> 00:52:00.440 Truggle dyke. I don't know what I say. I don't 923 00:52:00.440 --> 00:52:03.639 know if I'm pronouncing it correctly, but trug yeah, g 924 00:52:03.639 --> 00:52:06.519 g r O g l O d y t e. 925 00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:10.320 Again it's a technical uh technically a cave d weiler 926 00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:13.159 often used to describe someone living in total isolation. 927 00:52:13.719 --> 00:52:15.760 Again, that's just one of the random names in the here. 928 00:52:16.039 --> 00:52:20.440 Uh yeah, then you got no mads. 929 00:52:21.519 --> 00:52:23.480 Well yeah, I mean all those are combinations for people 930 00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:25.599 that did that stuff like in the pastor this is 931 00:52:26.119 --> 00:52:29.639 people that does this today. But anyway that that's fine 932 00:52:29.679 --> 00:52:35.079 with that. But anyway, they say that a lot of 933 00:52:35.079 --> 00:52:38.920 people come up missing in these national forest and out 934 00:52:38.920 --> 00:52:41.559 west and everywhere even here in Virginia. That's never heard 935 00:52:41.599 --> 00:52:44.800 from again either. And some people say, well bigfoot gum. 936 00:52:44.920 --> 00:52:47.280 Some people say it's alien is a gum. Some people 937 00:52:47.320 --> 00:52:50.639 say it's uh, they just got lost. But there's there's 938 00:52:50.679 --> 00:52:54.840 too many nobody, nothing's ever found. I remember Gwynn Purcell, 939 00:52:54.920 --> 00:52:57.480 remember that documentary he was working on with a hunter 940 00:52:58.079 --> 00:53:00.599 supposed to went out hunting, never came back. Hundred that 941 00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:05.360 area all his life. Oh, I don't think they found 942 00:53:05.639 --> 00:53:08.519 any of any remains or anything except for his weapon. 943 00:53:09.559 --> 00:53:14.239 They never seen from again. Uh why did that come about? 944 00:53:14.360 --> 00:53:17.639 You know what I mean? Yeah, now we're not talking 945 00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:20.280 about people going not committing suicide, because he gave no 946 00:53:20.320 --> 00:53:24.440 indications on that. There's been reports of people, a group 947 00:53:24.480 --> 00:53:27.719 of people out walking in the woods and hiking and 948 00:53:27.719 --> 00:53:30.320 and and they see each other up ahead of everybody 949 00:53:30.320 --> 00:53:32.960 ahead of them, and then one person go around to 950 00:53:33.000 --> 00:53:35.079 turn on the trail. By the time everybody else gets 951 00:53:35.159 --> 00:53:37.559 up there, that person's gone. Never seen it, hurt from again, 952 00:53:38.079 --> 00:53:40.440 you know, I mean, all kinds of weird things going 953 00:53:40.440 --> 00:53:43.519 on besides what we experienced while we were camping. Right, 954 00:53:44.239 --> 00:53:46.960 it's a I mean, I find it all fascinating as 955 00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:48.280 far as as far as all that. 956 00:53:49.760 --> 00:53:53.400 Yeah, yeah, Like I said, there's only so many listening 957 00:53:53.480 --> 00:53:53.920 names here. 958 00:53:54.000 --> 00:53:58.840 I mean there's off burder, homesteader, a vagabondage. 959 00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:04.519 Uh. All those are common type of terminologists for either 960 00:54:04.559 --> 00:54:06.960 a person, single person and whatnot, or a group of 961 00:54:06.960 --> 00:54:11.760 people that move around like the nomads. But anyway, no, 962 00:54:11.880 --> 00:54:14.039 don't worry about all that. It had come to me 963 00:54:14.079 --> 00:54:14.960 at some point. 964 00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:16.400 Is a simple name. 965 00:54:16.480 --> 00:54:21.559 Small names. I mean, Pharaoh came to mind for some reason. 966 00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:24.079 Feral people, I mean, I don't know why that just 967 00:54:24.119 --> 00:54:25.760 could come to mind. But again, I don't want to 968 00:54:25.760 --> 00:54:28.800 go go down this path. That wasn't That wasn't part 969 00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:30.400 of the cast podcast tonight. 970 00:54:30.559 --> 00:54:32.880 That's a group of people travel and they live in 971 00:54:33.000 --> 00:54:35.639 tents and stuff, and they go around and sell their 972 00:54:35.679 --> 00:54:37.440 wares and all that kind of stuff. 973 00:54:40.440 --> 00:54:46.079 They know that they they mingle with society. They live 974 00:54:46.159 --> 00:54:50.159 by themselves, but then again they mingle society. Okay, we're 975 00:54:50.159 --> 00:54:51.159 getting off the beating path. 976 00:54:52.119 --> 00:54:54.960 No, No, you're totally fine. Like I said, I don't 977 00:54:55.000 --> 00:54:57.639 mind going in random discussions. It's pretty cool. 978 00:54:58.400 --> 00:55:07.000 But humans uh and uh fagy according to st. 979 00:55:07.440 --> 00:55:11.719 I'm not familiar with that terminology that. 980 00:55:13.039 --> 00:55:14.400 I'm not sure how you pronounce it. 981 00:55:14.840 --> 00:55:15.840 I'll figure it out later. 982 00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:16.239 Uh. 983 00:55:18.079 --> 00:55:22.199 I think it's a movie wrong. I mean either way, 984 00:55:22.199 --> 00:55:25.760 that's fine. What other questions did you have written down 985 00:55:25.840 --> 00:55:27.039 you wanted to talk about tonight? 986 00:55:27.480 --> 00:55:31.400 Well, uh, well, there's a number of things here so 987 00:55:31.639 --> 00:55:35.119 we covered. When I asked you guys about hearing different 988 00:55:35.119 --> 00:55:37.320 sounds of vocal that you guys, if there was anything 989 00:55:37.320 --> 00:55:40.400 that you couldn't explain, you call Uh. 990 00:55:41.280 --> 00:55:45.599 Now, one of the other things I wanted to talk about. 991 00:55:46.400 --> 00:55:49.400 They you guys camp with me in two different areas. 992 00:55:49.400 --> 00:55:50.119 So we've been up. 993 00:55:50.079 --> 00:55:53.920 Around Elkhorn You can't there. You guys got familiar with there, 994 00:55:55.719 --> 00:55:57.760 mostly had an experience there at one of our camp 995 00:55:57.800 --> 00:56:02.639 areas out there. Uh So Elkorn Lake compared to where 996 00:56:02.679 --> 00:56:08.000 we've been camping, Now, how would you guys compare the 997 00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:10.400 two locations. 998 00:56:10.320 --> 00:56:16.320 Myself night and day? Yeah, just too much for me. 999 00:56:16.519 --> 00:56:20.079 Elkcren Lake. There's too much activity going on your round 1000 00:56:20.079 --> 00:56:23.960 the berth, human activity, people coming in and all the time. 1001 00:56:23.960 --> 00:56:26.400 You got that recreational lake there that people go to 1002 00:56:26.519 --> 00:56:29.440 they come up their fishing and all that other stuff whatnot. Yeah, 1003 00:56:30.119 --> 00:56:33.559 I mean that's me. That's that's my personal feeling. There's 1004 00:56:33.559 --> 00:56:40.920 too many distractions. Campsites are too close together compared to 1005 00:56:41.079 --> 00:56:45.239 where we go. That's privitive, that's primitive. And elk Corp 1006 00:56:45.320 --> 00:56:47.719 Two pretty much. They do have that one out house building, 1007 00:56:48.519 --> 00:56:51.760 just not for showers. I don't think anything like that. No, 1008 00:56:52.400 --> 00:56:55.119 that that's primitive camping too pretty much. But it's just 1009 00:56:56.719 --> 00:57:00.199 with the public comes there, the whole events there every year, 1010 00:57:01.039 --> 00:57:02.159 the bike rides. 1011 00:57:01.920 --> 00:57:04.039 That Yeah, that's true. 1012 00:57:04.880 --> 00:57:07.400 I mean, there's nothing wrong with that, don't get me wrong. 1013 00:57:07.519 --> 00:57:10.280 But for me, for what the way I want to 1014 00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:13.360 approach it, there's too many, too much activity and too 1015 00:57:13.440 --> 00:57:23.280 many distractions, and it makes it more difficult to rationalize 1016 00:57:23.320 --> 00:57:26.039 if anything would happen unless it's just right in your face. 1017 00:57:26.119 --> 00:57:29.639 Something's out of the ordinary, right, This is where we go. Now, 1018 00:57:29.880 --> 00:57:33.880 hardly anybody goes out there. People don't. You're not having 1019 00:57:33.880 --> 00:57:37.480 people driving by, you know, every twenty minutes going on 1020 00:57:37.519 --> 00:57:39.320 that gravel road like you do out of the Elk 1021 00:57:39.320 --> 00:57:44.480 corps and stuff. It's more secluded as well as premitive. 1022 00:57:45.480 --> 00:57:45.599 Uh. 1023 00:57:46.760 --> 00:57:51.760 The environment seems to be more relaxed when I'm more 1024 00:57:51.840 --> 00:57:52.760 compared to Elk Core. 1025 00:57:55.159 --> 00:57:57.800 You can immerse yourself better. 1026 00:57:58.400 --> 00:58:00.960 That's me, that's you immerse. 1027 00:58:00.679 --> 00:58:03.480 Yourself in the wildlife. In the nature. 1028 00:58:04.880 --> 00:58:09.599 You have more of the nature sounds versus humans contaminating 1029 00:58:09.639 --> 00:58:16.000 it so much. You're able to you know, any recordings 1030 00:58:16.000 --> 00:58:21.159 you get, they're not really authentic, but. 1031 00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:28.360 They're more reliable to a point, versus up at Elkhorn. 1032 00:58:29.840 --> 00:58:34.320 You try to record something, it might be contaminated with 1033 00:58:35.599 --> 00:58:38.480 the next camp fighte whooping and hollering. 1034 00:58:39.920 --> 00:58:41.000 Together and stuff. 1035 00:58:41.480 --> 00:58:42.599 So you don't. 1036 00:58:46.599 --> 00:58:48.800 I think you know you have. 1037 00:58:48.960 --> 00:58:51.360 There is a lot of activity at both places, I 1038 00:58:51.400 --> 00:58:58.760 believe in regards to bigfoot and wildlife, but you have 1039 00:58:58.920 --> 00:59:04.159 less tamp right with any kind of evidence at slight 1040 00:59:04.280 --> 00:59:06.039 Lick versus at Elkcorn. 1041 00:59:07.400 --> 00:59:09.079 Elkhorn is more noisy. 1042 00:59:09.880 --> 00:59:14.320 Yeah, that's understandable because of the where it is, the 1043 00:59:14.440 --> 00:59:18.079 location and stuff. It does have more you know, campers 1044 00:59:18.119 --> 00:59:21.480 and churists and stuff like that, whereas with slight Lick 1045 00:59:22.079 --> 00:59:22.960 a lot of people. 1046 00:59:22.679 --> 00:59:25.039 Don't know about it, a lot of people don't know where. 1047 00:59:24.920 --> 00:59:32.039 It's at, and therefore you have less contamination issues if 1048 00:59:32.079 --> 00:59:33.800 you understand I'm getting at Oh. 1049 00:59:33.679 --> 00:59:37.159 Yeah, absolutely, let's yeah, less interference and you know, now, 1050 00:59:37.239 --> 00:59:39.079 I mean, for the record, yeah, I totally agree with 1051 00:59:39.119 --> 00:59:42.639 you guys that you know, I spent years, I spent 1052 00:59:42.679 --> 00:59:46.039 a lot of time exploring those woods around Elkhorn, and 1053 00:59:46.039 --> 00:59:48.119 that's around the general area. So I mean I know 1054 00:59:48.239 --> 00:59:50.280 a lot of the woods, and I mean there's places 1055 00:59:50.280 --> 00:59:52.800 where I haven't even taken the guys who up there, 1056 00:59:52.800 --> 00:59:55.840 where you guys may find more comfortable, you know, more secluded. 1057 00:59:57.400 --> 01:00:02.440 However, of course, not you know up around the Elk 1058 01:00:02.440 --> 01:00:04.559 Point where I've had a lot of my not all 1059 01:00:04.559 --> 01:00:07.840 my experience, but some of my major experiences where I've 1060 01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:11.599 had my encounters and I had other things happen up there, 1061 01:00:11.920 --> 01:00:14.840 you know. But but you know, for example, what you 1062 01:00:14.880 --> 01:00:16.920 guys will referring to you or explain, you know, talking 1063 01:00:16.920 --> 01:00:19.400 about hearing, you know, having the human interaction or the 1064 01:00:19.440 --> 01:00:20.400 traffic noise. 1065 01:00:21.000 --> 01:00:23.599 I mean, I've been camping there with other people and 1066 01:00:23.920 --> 01:00:24.840 you know, it will be. 1067 01:00:24.800 --> 01:00:27.760 Dig quiet, and all of a sudden you'll have a 1068 01:00:27.880 --> 01:00:31.440 vehicle that some of them come out of coming from 1069 01:00:31.440 --> 01:00:35.440 the lake very slowly. And if it's quiet something you know, 1070 01:00:35.480 --> 01:00:38.400 of course it's all gravel for you there. And sometimes 1071 01:00:38.400 --> 01:00:38.920 the sound of a. 1072 01:00:39.000 --> 01:00:41.840 Tire when it. 1073 01:00:40.760 --> 01:00:44.079 Drives over or rolls over a rock, the sound of 1074 01:00:44.079 --> 01:00:46.559 the rock and the tire, you know, it sounds like 1075 01:00:46.599 --> 01:00:49.039 a knock sometimes by the way it hits and bangs 1076 01:00:49.039 --> 01:00:52.920 that rock. Well, I've had so many people and I've 1077 01:00:52.920 --> 01:00:53.880 gotten used to that sound. 1078 01:00:53.960 --> 01:00:57.039 I know that sounds very well. I've had people get 1079 01:00:57.039 --> 01:01:00.719 excited because like, hey there's a tree knock blah blah bh. 1080 01:01:00.760 --> 01:01:03.599 No, it's just a pop up at tire hitting the rock, 1081 01:01:03.719 --> 01:01:06.360 you know, and stuff like that. So you know, little 1082 01:01:06.360 --> 01:01:08.039 things like that, you know, I've come to learn to 1083 01:01:08.079 --> 01:01:09.360 realize what things. 1084 01:01:09.119 --> 01:01:09.719 Are, you know. 1085 01:01:09.920 --> 01:01:13.599 But so yeah, you know, like you guys. 1086 01:01:13.360 --> 01:01:15.599 Mentioned, yeah, they do the bike of thon or whatever 1087 01:01:15.599 --> 01:01:17.480 you want to call that. They do that like at 1088 01:01:17.559 --> 01:01:18.519 least twice a year. 1089 01:01:18.400 --> 01:01:18.719 That I know. 1090 01:01:19.199 --> 01:01:25.440 Yeah, I remember that. Wow. Yeah yeah, So I mean 1091 01:01:25.519 --> 01:01:27.840 I've heard things out there that caught me off guard. 1092 01:01:28.320 --> 01:01:32.559 You hear this weird vocalization and you keep hearing it, 1093 01:01:32.599 --> 01:01:34.480 and all of a sudden it gets closer and closer, 1094 01:01:34.519 --> 01:01:37.519 and it's like, what the heck is that certain times 1095 01:01:37.519 --> 01:01:40.280 of the year where the hunters will have their dogs 1096 01:01:40.320 --> 01:01:43.559 on the back of their truck, and the sound that 1097 01:01:43.599 --> 01:01:47.119 they want when those hound dogs are are you. 1098 01:01:47.039 --> 01:01:48.000 Know, doing what they do. 1099 01:01:48.960 --> 01:01:51.320 Judging from how far away it is, it throws you 1100 01:01:51.400 --> 01:01:54.440 off that the way the sound carries until you hear 1101 01:01:54.480 --> 01:01:56.039 it get closer and closer, and all of a sudden 1102 01:01:56.079 --> 01:01:58.880 you hear them, you know, like, oh my gosh, it's 1103 01:01:58.920 --> 01:02:02.920 just a dog. So yeah, you get that out there 1104 01:02:02.920 --> 01:02:06.199 a lot too. So so yeah, I totally get it. 1105 01:02:06.199 --> 01:02:07.039 When there's a lot. 1106 01:02:06.880 --> 01:02:08.159 Of what you know, when you guys are talking about 1107 01:02:08.159 --> 01:02:11.079 lot of interaction and a lot of interference, uh, you know, 1108 01:02:11.480 --> 01:02:15.440 from human traffic, you know, human traffic to whatever else 1109 01:02:15.519 --> 01:02:18.199 goes going out there. But so, but you know, like 1110 01:02:18.199 --> 01:02:20.119 I said, I mean, I will always have a lot 1111 01:02:20.159 --> 01:02:22.599 of respect for the elk Wort Lake area because of 1112 01:02:22.639 --> 01:02:25.000 you know, things I've experienced and hurt out there, you know, 1113 01:02:26.599 --> 01:02:29.719 you know, especially being by myself during the hunt seasons. 1114 01:02:29.400 --> 01:02:33.840 You know, hearing the things I've hurt out there. But yeah, 1115 01:02:33.880 --> 01:02:36.199 so it's been It's always been fascinating. 1116 01:02:35.679 --> 01:02:38.639 Out there, but since I've been camping this area with 1117 01:02:38.679 --> 01:02:44.239 you guys, it's, uh, yeah, there's a lot excitement out there, 1118 01:02:44.280 --> 01:02:46.079 you know, regardless if we understand it or not. 1119 01:02:46.400 --> 01:02:48.840 I mean, I've I mean, I mean, I'm enjoying it. 1120 01:02:49.320 --> 01:02:51.400 I want to spend as much time out there, you 1121 01:02:51.440 --> 01:02:52.960 know it's possible. 1122 01:02:53.960 --> 01:02:57.480 Well, watching your previous videos on the YouTube channel where 1123 01:02:57.480 --> 01:03:02.159 you spent I think it was that there, Lick, I'm 1124 01:03:02.159 --> 01:03:05.960 surprised you just spend more time out there before I 1125 01:03:06.039 --> 01:03:08.400 met you, because didn't you have one on there where 1126 01:03:08.519 --> 01:03:11.880 somebody reported that their trailer was being rocked, one camp 1127 01:03:12.079 --> 01:03:14.599 was being rocked one night. You got a video on 1128 01:03:14.679 --> 01:03:18.360 there to where uh you actually put powder down on 1129 01:03:18.400 --> 01:03:22.039 the ground where it looked like you were following something 1130 01:03:22.079 --> 01:03:23.679 when something had walked through the area. 1131 01:03:24.079 --> 01:03:28.079 Well that trackway was found. Yeah, well nine ten years ago, 1132 01:03:28.639 --> 01:03:32.880 I was definite. Yeah, we actually yeah, I got pictures 1133 01:03:32.880 --> 01:03:33.559 and video of that. 1134 01:03:34.159 --> 01:03:36.599 And then see, oh that was a slight lick, Yeah, 1135 01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:37.320 wasn't it. 1136 01:03:37.800 --> 01:03:41.239 Oh yeah it was Actually that was found in the 1137 01:03:41.239 --> 01:03:44.800 same area we became the same location where we all 1138 01:03:44.840 --> 01:03:47.599 camp at, where we were we set up camp, that's 1139 01:03:47.599 --> 01:03:51.079 where that was found. So yeah, right in the same area. 1140 01:03:51.119 --> 01:03:53.480 Of course, back then the area looked a little bit different. 1141 01:03:53.519 --> 01:03:55.400 It was a lot more like I don't I don't 1142 01:03:55.400 --> 01:03:55.800 know why. 1143 01:03:55.679 --> 01:03:58.239 It looked different then, but but like right there, right 1144 01:03:58.280 --> 01:04:01.159 there behind our camp area where it drops down to 1145 01:04:01.360 --> 01:04:04.239 where the stream is, I mean they used to be. 1146 01:04:04.360 --> 01:04:05.599 At one time, there used to be a line of 1147 01:04:05.639 --> 01:04:06.880 bushes that, you. 1148 01:04:06.840 --> 01:04:08.360 Know, that was right through there. 1149 01:04:08.519 --> 01:04:11.000 I guess over time people started cutting and whacking them away. 1150 01:04:12.199 --> 01:04:14.079 But yeah, there was a line of bushes there where 1151 01:04:14.119 --> 01:04:16.679 there was gaps in between them, you know. But like 1152 01:04:16.760 --> 01:04:18.639 I said, a lot of that got cut down, you know, 1153 01:04:18.679 --> 01:04:22.280 So it's you know, it changed a little bit, but uh, 1154 01:04:22.320 --> 01:04:25.000 and not far. You know, a lot of people don't 1155 01:04:25.320 --> 01:04:29.039 take this into consideration, but I have found deer remains 1156 01:04:29.079 --> 01:04:30.119 out there around slate. 1157 01:04:30.159 --> 01:04:34.360 Look not far from our camp here where the bones 1158 01:04:34.400 --> 01:04:35.159 the arms. 1159 01:04:34.880 --> 01:04:38.239 Of the deer were snapped in half and twisted, you know, 1160 01:04:38.960 --> 01:04:41.199 you know, and the ones that were snapped in half, 1161 01:04:41.239 --> 01:04:43.440 they were snapped going the opposite way, you know, like 1162 01:04:43.719 --> 01:04:47.440 you know with elbows. Imagine our arm being broke the 1163 01:04:47.480 --> 01:04:52.559 other way. I have found exactly. I have found deer 1164 01:04:52.599 --> 01:04:55.199 remains like that, the broken bones like that, and again 1165 01:04:55.239 --> 01:04:57.639 I found limbs and parts of the deer twisted out there, 1166 01:04:57.679 --> 01:05:02.079 you know, now unlike elhorn. Now, over a period of time, 1167 01:05:02.159 --> 01:05:05.719 I have come across several deer remade full carcasses, like 1168 01:05:05.760 --> 01:05:10.000 the full skeletal remains of a deer, And three out 1169 01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:11.559 of the several. 1170 01:05:11.239 --> 01:05:13.440 I found that the three of them that I've ever 1171 01:05:13.480 --> 01:05:15.840 found out, they had something common which I've always been 1172 01:05:16.079 --> 01:05:16.679 curious about. 1173 01:05:16.760 --> 01:05:17.559 What is doing that? 1174 01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:20.480 But there now of the front of the skull has 1175 01:05:20.519 --> 01:05:23.159 been risked off, you know, what's doing that? 1176 01:05:23.159 --> 01:05:25.239 That's I've had some people say that's the work of 1177 01:05:25.239 --> 01:05:27.440 a mountainline, But then again mountain lions, I hear go 1178 01:05:27.519 --> 01:05:28.519 for the neck or the back. 1179 01:05:28.400 --> 01:05:32.639 Of the neck, you know, throw the other quick kill. Yeah, yeah, 1180 01:05:32.679 --> 01:05:34.440 so I don't know. I mean, there's there's been some 1181 01:05:34.480 --> 01:05:36.960 strange stuff I found in both areas. But yeah, el 1182 01:05:37.039 --> 01:05:39.280 Port Lake and like I said that that was an 1183 01:05:39.280 --> 01:05:39.800 old video. 1184 01:05:39.840 --> 01:05:41.960 I do have that on one of my older videos 1185 01:05:41.960 --> 01:05:45.719 that was viewed with a very cheap camera phone. It 1186 01:05:45.840 --> 01:05:49.519 was probably when I was probably the first I think 1187 01:05:49.639 --> 01:05:52.320 the first smartphone. Uh it was a cheap smartphone, but 1188 01:05:52.400 --> 01:05:55.039 it was when the smartphones were fairly new and their 1189 01:05:55.079 --> 01:05:57.039 camera qualities weren't weren't the best. 1190 01:05:57.119 --> 01:06:01.239 But now you know, we got camera that recorded four 1191 01:06:01.360 --> 01:06:09.079 K which was awesome. So yeah, so yeah, yeah, comparing 1192 01:06:09.119 --> 01:06:11.840 the environments to the habitats, you know, like I said, 1193 01:06:11.960 --> 01:06:16.719 as far as between both locations, uh, I mean as 1194 01:06:16.719 --> 01:06:18.719 of right now with what we're doing now, I mean 1195 01:06:20.199 --> 01:06:23.159 there there's a lot that we experienced, uh in this 1196 01:06:23.239 --> 01:06:25.440 area that we're now if we. 1197 01:06:25.400 --> 01:06:28.480 Do experience more, I'm hoping I'm hoping to capture more 1198 01:06:28.800 --> 01:06:30.239 and document it more on film. 1199 01:06:30.480 --> 01:06:33.320 You know a lot of you know, what we have 1200 01:06:33.440 --> 01:06:33.840 out there. 1201 01:06:33.840 --> 01:06:37.239 You know, people get to hear more of what we 1202 01:06:37.400 --> 01:06:41.000 experience rather than see it for themselves. So that's something 1203 01:06:41.039 --> 01:06:43.679 I want to try to improve on on my part 1204 01:06:43.760 --> 01:06:46.719 because I don't always I'm not always prepared for something. 1205 01:06:46.760 --> 01:06:48.719 You know, and I know it's supposed to be, but 1206 01:06:49.199 --> 01:06:52.719 I mean that would require me recording every minute of 1207 01:06:52.719 --> 01:06:53.639 the time out there. 1208 01:06:53.760 --> 01:06:57.280 You know, you're not gonna be able to really get 1209 01:06:57.320 --> 01:06:59.559 away from that with how we go about it, because 1210 01:06:59.679 --> 01:07:02.800 we don't have like you brought up many times before, 1211 01:07:02.920 --> 01:07:04.320 we don't have productive crews out. 1212 01:07:04.199 --> 01:07:07.719 There following us around at We don't have people sitting 1213 01:07:07.760 --> 01:07:10.599 back at an editing room and going through all the 1214 01:07:10.599 --> 01:07:13.719 footage from a week's a couple of weekend recordings and 1215 01:07:13.719 --> 01:07:17.719 stuff like that, or we don't have that availability. We 1216 01:07:17.800 --> 01:07:21.960 just have to go about smarter and and hope for 1217 01:07:22.000 --> 01:07:25.679 the best after that. I know that I know where 1218 01:07:25.760 --> 01:07:28.760 my action can on my chest, but some people say, 1219 01:07:28.800 --> 01:07:30.920 y'all put one on your back at the same time 1220 01:07:31.679 --> 01:07:35.360 because you're walking down the path or whatever. You don't 1221 01:07:35.360 --> 01:07:38.320 know if anything crossed the path behind you or not right, 1222 01:07:38.519 --> 01:07:41.639 stuff like that. So we just have to rethink about 1223 01:07:41.679 --> 01:07:45.559 how we are doing what we're doing. We're going to 1224 01:07:45.679 --> 01:07:48.480 evolve as we do it. Yeah, we're not going to 1225 01:07:48.559 --> 01:07:51.159 catch everything. I mean, that's gonna be a given. I mean, 1226 01:07:52.280 --> 01:07:55.239 I'm not I don't have a three sixty camera to 1227 01:07:55.280 --> 01:07:57.119 put on my head. We're on top of my hat 1228 01:08:00.760 --> 01:08:11.960 like Google. Yeah, yeah, I mean think about it. I 1229 01:08:11.960 --> 01:08:14.039 mean they do have cameras like that, but I don't 1230 01:08:14.079 --> 01:08:17.880 know how well they work that night yeah after dark. 1231 01:08:20.520 --> 01:08:23.000 Yeah, I mean I have done that before. I mean 1232 01:08:23.800 --> 01:08:26.520 up around Elkhorn and stuff. I had a. 1233 01:08:27.039 --> 01:08:29.000 I used to have a rough sack they had to 1234 01:08:29.199 --> 01:08:32.199 steal frames, had the framework and I had my actually 1235 01:08:32.239 --> 01:08:34.760 camera mounted on top, actually walked facing behind me. 1236 01:08:34.960 --> 01:08:37.279 I've only I've done that, you know, a couple of times. 1237 01:08:37.319 --> 01:08:41.039 But uh, let's see see things like that. We may 1238 01:08:41.079 --> 01:08:45.439 have to starting pulling again. I mean, yeah, especially now 1239 01:08:45.439 --> 01:08:49.680 when things are starting to happen and I hate to 1240 01:08:49.720 --> 01:08:52.319 miss it. I hate missing that light that night. But yeah, 1241 01:08:52.920 --> 01:08:57.840 when you're out exploring, you're not always thinking about something. Pop. 1242 01:08:58.439 --> 01:09:00.560 We know what's going to happen, but when not prepared, 1243 01:09:00.560 --> 01:09:03.439 when it pops up out of nowhere, exactly a lot 1244 01:09:03.520 --> 01:09:08.960 of that stuff, Uh. 1245 01:09:07.199 --> 01:09:09.000 I know. It's frustrating though. 1246 01:09:09.039 --> 01:09:12.119 It is because you know a lot of people are like, oh, 1247 01:09:12.159 --> 01:09:14.279 why don't you well, you see these things, why don't 1248 01:09:14.279 --> 01:09:14.880 you film them? 1249 01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:18.479 Well, you're caught up in the moment. 1250 01:09:18.520 --> 01:09:21.560 You're not, like you said, you're not you know, you're 1251 01:09:21.600 --> 01:09:24.520 looking for things and you're you know, you want to 1252 01:09:24.560 --> 01:09:27.079 pay attention to you don't want to miss something. But 1253 01:09:27.119 --> 01:09:31.159 then again, the secondary thing having a camera available with 1254 01:09:31.239 --> 01:09:33.680 your oh crap, I wasn't recording at that time, you know, 1255 01:09:33.680 --> 01:09:37.119 because I was trying to preserve on film time and 1256 01:09:37.319 --> 01:09:40.119 whatever A battery. Now I've got extra batteries. 1257 01:09:40.520 --> 01:09:44.800 They don't see, they don't realize that you may have 1258 01:09:44.880 --> 01:09:48.279 extra batteries, but you got you gotta have the get. 1259 01:09:48.920 --> 01:09:50.720 You can have all the batteries you want. But if 1260 01:09:50.720 --> 01:09:53.039 you don't have the capacity to get all the recordings 1261 01:09:53.079 --> 01:09:55.439 for the hours to spend out there on your equipment, 1262 01:09:56.880 --> 01:10:01.000 you're basically blowing in the wind. Yeah. And then again, 1263 01:10:01.039 --> 01:10:03.159 you know, be walking around out there with two hundred 1264 01:10:03.199 --> 01:10:06.079 pounds of equipment on your dag all back either you know, 1265 01:10:06.560 --> 01:10:09.159 pointing the four different directions and a ton of batteries 1266 01:10:09.239 --> 01:10:13.039 in your pockets. What not fifteen flash lights? I mean, 1267 01:10:14.199 --> 01:10:18.399 that's not practical and you're not going to catch everything. 1268 01:10:19.479 --> 01:10:22.760 It's just been be a little smarter about how we 1269 01:10:22.800 --> 01:10:26.000 go about it. And beyond that, it's gonna be a 1270 01:10:26.079 --> 01:10:27.880 hit and miss. We're not gonna get away from that. 1271 01:10:28.359 --> 01:10:31.560 Plus, the more equipment to carry, the more noise you're. 1272 01:10:31.399 --> 01:10:35.600 Gonna make, yeah, I mean right, And I only try 1273 01:10:35.640 --> 01:10:37.600 to pack light if I can, Like my backpack I 1274 01:10:38.159 --> 01:10:40.520 carry with me out there. I only try to keep 1275 01:10:40.520 --> 01:10:43.920 a few necessities in there. Especially when it's nighttime. I 1276 01:10:44.000 --> 01:10:45.680 keep my thermal with me. I mean, I want my 1277 01:10:45.680 --> 01:10:47.960 thermal camera with me, you know, I try to have 1278 01:10:48.039 --> 01:10:50.680 that prepared, you know, like the night we saw the light. 1279 01:10:51.079 --> 01:10:52.800 As soon as we saw the light and it went away, 1280 01:10:53.399 --> 01:10:56.039 you know, what did we do? I pulled off the thermal. 1281 01:10:56.079 --> 01:10:59.119 It's right away, you know. You know, and you did 1282 01:10:59.119 --> 01:11:01.119 the same thing. You walk up ahead and try to 1283 01:11:01.119 --> 01:11:03.479 capture from a different view with your permal, you know. 1284 01:11:04.279 --> 01:11:06.960 I mean, we do try. We put the effort in 1285 01:11:07.000 --> 01:11:08.039 there for trying, you know. 1286 01:11:09.880 --> 01:11:12.319 But after that, after that, all we do to tell 1287 01:11:12.359 --> 01:11:14.600 the stories of what happened, and people take it from 1288 01:11:14.600 --> 01:11:18.680 what it's worth exactly when when more than one people 1289 01:11:18.800 --> 01:11:22.880 experience it and and we're and we're not out there 1290 01:11:23.279 --> 01:11:27.199 to make stories up. I can't do that. I mean, 1291 01:11:27.239 --> 01:11:27.720 I'm not. 1292 01:11:29.600 --> 01:11:33.760 If we spend so much time trying to document and 1293 01:11:33.800 --> 01:11:38.520 report everything, we're going to miss something that actually truly happens. 1294 01:11:39.159 --> 01:11:42.239 Those we're so focused on making sure the battery. 1295 01:11:41.880 --> 01:11:45.319 Power is good and all that exactly. 1296 01:11:45.680 --> 01:11:50.119 Some things happen because off camera because they're meant to. 1297 01:11:50.079 --> 01:11:50.920 Happen off camera. 1298 01:11:50.960 --> 01:11:53.760 Well, and what's this. 1299 01:11:54.319 --> 01:11:57.079 I've seen some crazy things myself. We need to learn 1300 01:11:57.159 --> 01:12:00.439 to just take a moment to think and bring before 1301 01:12:00.439 --> 01:12:03.399 we make a move. That could be the most important 1302 01:12:03.479 --> 01:12:07.720 moment of your life. I showed Dan my dog man picks. 1303 01:12:07.920 --> 01:12:12.800 Yeah, that is true, stop and breathe and hopefully, well 1304 01:12:13.159 --> 01:12:17.000 somethings just happened like that, like that light. I mean, yeah, 1305 01:12:17.000 --> 01:12:20.720 because Williams at nighttime. I mean, I don't know if 1306 01:12:20.840 --> 01:12:24.479 any equipment we have would be able to record it, 1307 01:12:24.479 --> 01:12:27.319 even though it was right for what it was about 1308 01:12:27.359 --> 01:12:29.680 forty yards away. But I don't think we would have 1309 01:12:30.359 --> 01:12:34.159 Our equipment would not have been sensitive enough to be 1310 01:12:34.199 --> 01:12:36.239 able to I don't think be able to pick that 1311 01:12:36.359 --> 01:12:39.039 light up that distance to give any credence to what 1312 01:12:39.079 --> 01:12:41.960 we saw, because you got to really have a low 1313 01:12:42.039 --> 01:12:45.359 light camera that you can just turn on and be 1314 01:12:45.399 --> 01:12:49.399 able to record it. Now, could could it have been 1315 01:12:49.399 --> 01:12:53.560 picked up on thermal or or it could have been 1316 01:12:53.560 --> 01:12:56.720 a possibility, But we're not out there walking around with 1317 01:12:56.880 --> 01:12:59.439 the thermals. I are watching every day on spot where 1318 01:12:59.439 --> 01:13:02.880 we go to. Yeah, I wish it had an action 1319 01:13:03.039 --> 01:13:06.199 cam that had thermal mode. You hit record and just 1320 01:13:06.279 --> 01:13:08.319 record the entire time a thermal or and in for 1321 01:13:08.439 --> 01:13:09.359 rid one of the two. 1322 01:13:09.800 --> 01:13:13.279 Yeah, oh, it's like my device, my thermal I know, 1323 01:13:13.319 --> 01:13:15.880 yours is a monarchy. Mine is a camera that's connected 1324 01:13:15.880 --> 01:13:19.199 to my boom and for the record for those oh 1325 01:13:19.479 --> 01:13:21.439 you got you gotta want you know, it's not the 1326 01:13:21.479 --> 01:13:22.439 other plugging things. 1327 01:13:22.479 --> 01:13:22.920 It's mine. 1328 01:13:23.000 --> 01:13:25.399 More advancing the I feel what they call them. 1329 01:13:25.399 --> 01:13:26.920 I used to have one for a Android a long 1330 01:13:26.920 --> 01:13:29.439 time ago, but this is completely different and it runs 1331 01:13:29.439 --> 01:13:32.359 off an app and the device together and it's amazing 1332 01:13:32.560 --> 01:13:35.359 and you can see, for I mean, from our camp, 1333 01:13:35.439 --> 01:13:38.159 I've had good clear vision of the field tree line 1334 01:13:38.199 --> 01:13:38.800 across from us. 1335 01:13:38.960 --> 01:13:41.399 You know, my captures just as you know like yours does. 1336 01:13:42.319 --> 01:13:45.199 And yeah, I would love to have it said in 1337 01:13:45.239 --> 01:13:48.600 mount deal with you have to I should go in 1338 01:13:48.680 --> 01:13:51.239 and turn it on. You know it's whatever. 1339 01:13:51.319 --> 01:13:55.199 But well, so that's that's the Achilles Hill, this type 1340 01:13:55.199 --> 01:13:59.279 of equipment. Yeah, if if you walk around with it 1341 01:13:59.359 --> 01:14:02.279 on and your focus on that equipment, you're gonna miss 1342 01:14:02.279 --> 01:14:03.479 a lot of other stuff around you. 1343 01:14:03.560 --> 01:14:04.319 Yeah, that's right. 1344 01:14:04.760 --> 01:14:07.119 We need to have something we just turn on, let 1345 01:14:07.159 --> 01:14:10.520 a record while we could still look and listen and 1346 01:14:10.640 --> 01:14:13.399 interact with the environment. And plus you've got the safety 1347 01:14:13.439 --> 01:14:18.279 aspect because in the summertime, that's when the timber rattlesnakes 1348 01:14:18.279 --> 01:14:20.760 and the comprehends get out and move the most right 1349 01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:21.520 hut and. 1350 01:14:21.479 --> 01:14:24.439 We all know that from that. 1351 01:14:24.760 --> 01:14:27.560 But they do move around twenty four hours a day, 1352 01:14:27.640 --> 01:14:29.920 but there's certain time frames in the day based on 1353 01:14:29.960 --> 01:14:33.399 the heat where they're more active. Yeah, the time frames 1354 01:14:33.479 --> 01:14:35.439 were out there, they're going to be more active soon. 1355 01:14:35.479 --> 01:14:37.439 You've got to take safety into account too. You gotta 1356 01:14:37.439 --> 01:14:39.920 watch where you step, where you go for the for 1357 01:14:40.000 --> 01:14:42.720 the best you can. We don't always do that obviously. 1358 01:14:43.199 --> 01:14:44.880 Yeah, we've been fortunate enough. 1359 01:14:44.720 --> 01:14:47.520 To awareness about you when when you're out there in 1360 01:14:47.520 --> 01:14:48.159 the woods. 1361 01:14:48.359 --> 01:14:50.880 Yeah, yeah, when it comes to the rattle stakes and 1362 01:14:50.920 --> 01:14:53.520 venom the snakes out there. Of course, we've been fortunate 1363 01:14:53.560 --> 01:14:55.840 to where they've been stationary and in one place, but 1364 01:14:55.920 --> 01:14:59.119 they also start us, you know when we do know. 1365 01:14:59.600 --> 01:15:03.359 Well, yeah, but look, look emen, and you walk by 1366 01:15:03.800 --> 01:15:07.680 every time you're out there, don't even realize it. Yeah, 1367 01:15:07.680 --> 01:15:11.720 I mean timber rattlers. People don't realize they're a docile snake. 1368 01:15:12.520 --> 01:15:16.239 Don't pick them up, don't step on them. Now, if 1369 01:15:16.239 --> 01:15:21.000 you touch them or get too close by making extra 1370 01:15:21.119 --> 01:15:23.880 vibrations by maybe breaking the branch by stepping on or 1371 01:15:23.960 --> 01:15:26.359 something that you may give off a rattle. But then again, 1372 01:15:27.319 --> 01:15:30.640 they don't always rattle before they strike. A lot of 1373 01:15:30.680 --> 01:15:33.279 people think you're gonna hear that rattle first. That's not 1374 01:15:33.319 --> 01:15:36.399 always the case when it comes to the timber rapper. Now, 1375 01:15:36.439 --> 01:15:38.920 the copperhead, he's got his own little latitude and everything else, 1376 01:15:38.960 --> 01:15:40.840 and he's gonna believe in the environment that he don't 1377 01:15:40.840 --> 01:15:43.119 get as big as a timber. But for the most 1378 01:15:43.159 --> 01:15:45.960 perfect I mean, we just have to take safety into 1379 01:15:46.000 --> 01:15:50.359 consideration when we're out there to especially after dark, there's. 1380 01:15:50.159 --> 01:15:55.199 Another wildlife too you need to be wary of because there. 1381 01:15:54.960 --> 01:15:58.439 Where we go there's rocks, it's fallen trees, and they 1382 01:15:58.960 --> 01:16:02.039 say just on the ground out. Yeah, they can be 1383 01:16:02.159 --> 01:16:07.079 up on the log. You know, they be hanging on 1384 01:16:07.079 --> 01:16:10.840 a branch you're walking by. So we can't be focused 1385 01:16:10.840 --> 01:16:14.960 here worried about getting the recording and then not be 1386 01:16:15.079 --> 01:16:19.239 able to deserve around you. Not only for the safety aspect, 1387 01:16:19.279 --> 01:16:22.119 but what if you would see movement over to your left, 1388 01:16:22.159 --> 01:16:24.640 but you're looking over to your left when you're not looking, 1389 01:16:24.680 --> 01:16:26.960 but you're looking here at your camera trying to record 1390 01:16:27.039 --> 01:16:29.680 over here. I like something where you can just put 1391 01:16:29.720 --> 01:16:33.159 on your equipment, turn it on, be able to go, 1392 01:16:33.600 --> 01:16:36.039 especially at night time. It's what I'm thinking about, because 1393 01:16:36.039 --> 01:16:38.880 that's a more critical point because you got to limited 1394 01:16:38.960 --> 01:16:40.880 vision and stuff that has something that was either I 1395 01:16:41.159 --> 01:16:45.359 R or infrared equipped. Turn it on, let it record, 1396 01:16:45.840 --> 01:16:47.479 and then just go out and do your thing without 1397 01:16:47.479 --> 01:16:49.960 having to worry about Just get the recording as you're 1398 01:16:50.000 --> 01:16:53.520 going to law. But I don't think the equipment we 1399 01:16:53.600 --> 01:16:55.319 have will be sensit enough to be able to pick 1400 01:16:55.359 --> 01:16:57.039 that light up. I mean, you have to have a 1401 01:16:57.079 --> 01:16:59.800 real low light camera. Even if it took my can 1402 01:16:59.800 --> 01:17:02.239 if I D Mark four out there, my F four 1403 01:17:02.359 --> 01:17:04.720 lens wouldn't be sent enough for I have to get 1404 01:17:04.760 --> 01:17:09.680 a point two lens F stop lens has a real 1405 01:17:09.720 --> 01:17:13.479 wide averture to be able to do that right, and 1406 01:17:13.520 --> 01:17:16.319 that's like a four thousand dollars lens. I can't afford that. 1407 01:17:17.000 --> 01:17:20.039 I mean, it's impractical, plus the cameras to be because 1408 01:17:20.119 --> 01:17:21.920 right out the dark anyway. That's why I like the 1409 01:17:21.960 --> 01:17:23.399 action camps. Yeah. 1410 01:17:23.600 --> 01:17:26.720 Now, one thing that you made me think about, David, 1411 01:17:26.800 --> 01:17:28.920 as far as you know, talking about having something out 1412 01:17:28.920 --> 01:17:31.800 there where we can see it on recording. Now, I 1413 01:17:32.000 --> 01:17:37.680 have a small it's a handheld night vision monocular. I 1414 01:17:37.680 --> 01:17:40.079 think it does pretty good. It does pretty good for 1415 01:17:40.119 --> 01:17:40.560 what it is. 1416 01:17:41.319 --> 01:17:44.520 You know, it's not a very expensive device, but from 1417 01:17:44.600 --> 01:17:48.199 what I played around with it, it does pretty good work. 1418 01:17:49.840 --> 01:17:52.199 You know, I can't guarantee that the footage is going 1419 01:17:52.239 --> 01:17:54.279 to be clear, especially if we're moving around at night 1420 01:17:54.439 --> 01:17:57.439 look trying to look and and you know, investigate the 1421 01:17:57.479 --> 01:18:02.279 woods at night, but it may help after something. Now 1422 01:18:02.319 --> 01:18:04.640 it does you know, like a lot of these handheld 1423 01:18:04.680 --> 01:18:08.560 devices like mine, it does have the threads on the 1424 01:18:08.560 --> 01:18:10.640 bottom where you can put something in it and work 1425 01:18:10.880 --> 01:18:14.000 and mount it somewhere. So that's an option where I 1426 01:18:14.039 --> 01:18:15.600 may be able to put it up on my shoulder 1427 01:18:15.600 --> 01:18:21.000 strap of my of my backpack, which I you know, 1428 01:18:21.079 --> 01:18:23.159 because I now have the strap set up in the 1429 01:18:23.279 --> 01:18:26.319 mount for my action camera on my on the lower part. 1430 01:18:26.199 --> 01:18:29.359 Of my back backpack strap. So that's something I might 1431 01:18:29.399 --> 01:18:31.439 look into to see if I can mount something up high. 1432 01:18:31.560 --> 01:18:34.720 If you if you got the equipment, use it. It's 1433 01:18:34.760 --> 01:18:37.720 no good to get the equipment, regardless of how expensive 1434 01:18:37.920 --> 01:18:41.039 or not it is. Just leave it back in the 1435 01:18:41.119 --> 01:18:43.800 back to me. That'll make any sense for that? 1436 01:18:43.920 --> 01:18:46.600 Yeah, unless i'm mounted or scrappage in. 1437 01:18:46.600 --> 01:18:49.760 My hand something. You know, at least you may get 1438 01:18:49.800 --> 01:18:51.399 surprised what you might be able to catch with it, 1439 01:18:52.199 --> 01:18:55.960 or at least enough at least something to give credence 1440 01:18:56.119 --> 01:18:58.560 to what you're trying to relate what you're trying to 1441 01:18:58.560 --> 01:19:01.840 tell the story about. Right, but you're not going to 1442 01:19:01.880 --> 01:19:04.199 know unless you use it. If we got it, we 1443 01:19:04.359 --> 01:19:10.279 may as well use it. I mean that. I mean, well, 1444 01:19:10.439 --> 01:19:12.680 what I just wish you had more to be at 1445 01:19:12.680 --> 01:19:16.520 our exposal, but we have to buy everything we use. 1446 01:19:17.319 --> 01:19:22.399 You know, we're not funded, we don't have networks. I mean, 1447 01:19:22.439 --> 01:19:24.399 I wouldn't want to network people out there follow me 1448 01:19:24.439 --> 01:19:27.640 around anyway. I'm not about that. I don't want five 1449 01:19:27.720 --> 01:19:31.479 other people walk around the clunky equipment and doing all 1450 01:19:31.520 --> 01:19:33.000 their due. Now, somebody must come out of do a 1451 01:19:33.000 --> 01:19:35.479 documentary or something like that for a night. That's one thing. 1452 01:19:36.119 --> 01:19:37.439 But you go out there and follow you around for 1453 01:19:37.479 --> 01:19:39.920 two or three four days. I think you're beating the 1454 01:19:39.920 --> 01:19:42.520 dead horse with that. It could be wrong. I mean, 1455 01:19:43.640 --> 01:19:49.279 that's my opinion. I mean, plus there'll be a distraction too. 1456 01:19:49.960 --> 01:19:52.000 I mean, I've had people tell me, like back when 1457 01:19:52.079 --> 01:19:54.960 I've done my other group camp out, you know, oh, 1458 01:19:55.000 --> 01:19:57.000 you have too many people out in the woods. Well, 1459 01:19:57.079 --> 01:20:00.640 twenty fourteen, six of us shared in account together. So 1460 01:20:01.000 --> 01:20:04.680 I mean it was totally unexpected and it happened. You know, 1461 01:20:05.439 --> 01:20:06.960 she was one of the guys that was with us. 1462 01:20:07.000 --> 01:20:08.560 Now we didn't know this at the time, but he 1463 01:20:08.640 --> 01:20:11.920 had his cam he had his camport route. Now his 1464 01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:15.119 camport was not ir CA category, was it in an. 1465 01:20:14.960 --> 01:20:18.199 Infrared or nothing like that, but because we had enough 1466 01:20:18.279 --> 01:20:21.039 light shining down in there, and he was recording the 1467 01:20:21.079 --> 01:20:23.880 whole situation, and he had his cam cocus out in 1468 01:20:23.920 --> 01:20:26.720 the woods with what we were seeing there in person. 1469 01:20:27.159 --> 01:20:30.560 Now I learned about this later on. He had two 1470 01:20:30.600 --> 01:20:33.119 different versions. He put one up for what it was, 1471 01:20:33.199 --> 01:20:35.439 and then he did another one where he tried to 1472 01:20:35.520 --> 01:20:36.920 enhance it and did this and that. 1473 01:20:37.960 --> 01:20:42.760 Now, now some people that watched that claim they've seen 1474 01:20:42.880 --> 01:20:45.880 the eye shine. The eye Shine supposedly got picked up 1475 01:20:45.920 --> 01:20:49.199 in the video. Now, I personally, I watched his video 1476 01:20:49.720 --> 01:20:51.760 so many times, and I believe it's still available. 1477 01:20:51.760 --> 01:20:52.600 I'll have to look it up. 1478 01:20:53.279 --> 01:20:56.800 But I couldn't see nothing. I mean, in my honest opinion, 1479 01:20:57.239 --> 01:21:01.920 I don't think he picked anything up. But I was again, 1480 01:21:01.920 --> 01:21:03.680 I was surprised that he did that. I got excited 1481 01:21:03.680 --> 01:21:07.800 when I learned that he did that. But like I said, 1482 01:21:07.840 --> 01:21:11.079 two of us said night vision monoculars. But they were 1483 01:21:11.119 --> 01:21:14.000 both in our backpack, and when when we realized and 1484 01:21:14.119 --> 01:21:16.159 thought about it, it was too late, and of course 1485 01:21:16.199 --> 01:21:18.920 we were kicking kicking ourselves from the butt. I mean, 1486 01:21:19.600 --> 01:21:24.159 they were small, handheld infrared monoculars, you know. And yeah, 1487 01:21:25.119 --> 01:21:28.520 I think, yeah, they were video capable, but I just again, 1488 01:21:28.760 --> 01:21:31.119 they weren't expensive devices. 1489 01:21:31.159 --> 01:21:34.880 But even then, we could have got better observations of 1490 01:21:34.960 --> 01:21:37.920 what we were seeing. We could have probably shared better details, 1491 01:21:37.960 --> 01:21:41.359 but with what we had at the time, I mean, 1492 01:21:41.479 --> 01:21:42.920 it was basically our word. 1493 01:21:42.680 --> 01:21:44.479 Against anyone else's, you know. 1494 01:21:45.159 --> 01:21:47.159 I mean, there's a few of us that still talk 1495 01:21:47.239 --> 01:21:48.920 about it. I mean I bring it up when I 1496 01:21:48.920 --> 01:21:52.159 get asked about it on podcasts. I've been on two 1497 01:21:52.199 --> 01:21:54.640 other podcasts this month as a guest. I got another 1498 01:21:54.680 --> 01:21:58.520 one coming up Thursday at seven pm as a pre recording, 1499 01:21:58.600 --> 01:22:02.680 so I got that going on then Friday and Saturday. Yeah, 1500 01:22:02.720 --> 01:22:04.720 I'll remind everybody if you guys are listening, I do 1501 01:22:04.760 --> 01:22:08.560 want to remind everybody since we have a decent audience 1502 01:22:08.640 --> 01:22:13.279 watching right now this Friday and also Saturday right here 1503 01:22:13.319 --> 01:22:16.399 on YouTube channel Bigfoot Zone E C B R O 1504 01:22:17.199 --> 01:22:21.479 I do have. They will be played live Ronald Berfy 1505 01:22:21.520 --> 01:22:23.600 on Friday night and Kevin. 1506 01:22:25.399 --> 01:22:29.079 Kevin Letharge on Saturday night. So yeah, I have two 1507 01:22:29.199 --> 01:22:30.960 podcasts coming up with Friday and Saturday. 1508 01:22:33.359 --> 01:22:34.079 You can see them. 1509 01:22:34.119 --> 01:22:37.479 They're already posted for upcoming podcast on the channel. Hopefully 1510 01:22:37.520 --> 01:22:42.039 you guys tune in for Friday and Saturday night. So 1511 01:22:42.279 --> 01:22:43.840 I just wanted to bring that up and make mention 1512 01:22:43.920 --> 01:22:50.039 of that real quick. So oh Faith said, I want 1513 01:22:50.079 --> 01:22:52.720 one of those l O L maybe for my birthday. 1514 01:22:52.880 --> 01:22:54.079 I think you're talking about my night. 1515 01:22:54.119 --> 01:22:54.439 You should. 1516 01:22:56.279 --> 01:23:03.000 Anything's possible, h m hmm. And then she also goes 1517 01:23:03.039 --> 01:23:07.560 on to say it, but seeing is believing for most cases. Yes, unfortunately, 1518 01:23:07.640 --> 01:23:11.600 that's a sad truth, you know. And David, you brought 1519 01:23:11.600 --> 01:23:14.479 this up yourself. When it comes to evidence, and even 1520 01:23:14.520 --> 01:23:16.199 if we were to be fortunate. 1521 01:23:15.880 --> 01:23:19.800 To capture a bigfoot or capture something amazing on camera, 1522 01:23:21.000 --> 01:23:24.199 AI has destroyed a lot of what we do, and 1523 01:23:24.640 --> 01:23:26.560 that goes for anybody because there's all kinds of AI 1524 01:23:26.680 --> 01:23:29.000 videos out there, and the sad truth there's there's a 1525 01:23:29.039 --> 01:23:32.680 lot of people that believe it, you know, so well. 1526 01:23:32.960 --> 01:23:35.359 My opinion on that is, Fortunately, I'm not out there 1527 01:23:35.359 --> 01:23:40.199 for the AI part. I'm not out there for uh recognition. 1528 01:23:40.479 --> 01:23:43.079 I'm out there for me. Lit's out there for her. 1529 01:23:43.239 --> 01:23:47.359 We we want our answers and and and what we do, 1530 01:23:49.079 --> 01:23:51.720 sharing what we do with other people and enlightens them 1531 01:23:51.840 --> 01:23:54.279 to see our point of view or maybe change their 1532 01:23:54.319 --> 01:23:56.479 mind or maybe get them to get out there too. 1533 01:23:57.279 --> 01:23:57.560 Uh. 1534 01:23:57.840 --> 01:24:01.079 That that's what it's all about. People could be naysayers 1535 01:24:01.079 --> 01:24:02.760 all they want. They can laugh at what you do 1536 01:24:02.800 --> 01:24:05.319 is scoff about it. But the main thing of it 1537 01:24:05.399 --> 01:24:08.119 is we're out there. We're having fun, we're getting out 1538 01:24:08.119 --> 01:24:10.680 of the house. We've got the camaraderie, we've got the camping, 1539 01:24:10.760 --> 01:24:13.920 we've got the wildlife to enjoy. And then we do 1540 01:24:13.960 --> 01:24:17.000 our research at the same time. And people could take 1541 01:24:17.039 --> 01:24:18.960 it for what it is when we tell our stories 1542 01:24:19.079 --> 01:24:22.039 or not. But or they could just dismiss it and 1543 01:24:22.159 --> 01:24:24.319 laugh and go on sit on the couch and watch 1544 01:24:24.359 --> 01:24:28.560 the nightly news for all I care. Yeah, we're enjoying 1545 01:24:28.600 --> 01:24:32.880 what we're doing and there's nothing gonna change that none. 1546 01:24:33.560 --> 01:24:36.279 You know, I'm gonna keep on doing it. And if 1547 01:24:36.279 --> 01:24:43.640 we do get something by chance, that's pretty telling significant. Uh, 1548 01:24:43.680 --> 01:24:46.279 it's up to them they want to believe it or not. Yeah, 1549 01:24:46.600 --> 01:24:48.159 all we could do is to relate to them. I mean, 1550 01:24:48.199 --> 01:24:51.760 it's gonna take my life when we're the other. Absolutely, 1551 01:24:53.239 --> 01:24:55.880 I'm not gonna go beat on a tree or nothing 1552 01:24:55.960 --> 01:24:58.279 like that because they made me mad or hurt my ego. 1553 01:25:01.039 --> 01:25:01.800 How bigger than that? 1554 01:25:04.000 --> 01:25:04.199 You know? 1555 01:25:04.279 --> 01:25:07.520 Another thing, kind of off topic, One of the things 1556 01:25:07.560 --> 01:25:09.920 I wrote down to is, Yeah, I knew you guys 1557 01:25:09.960 --> 01:25:13.279 heard me talk about this, but you know, and even 1558 01:25:13.279 --> 01:25:16.199 when I've been out there by myself, but for years, 1559 01:25:16.399 --> 01:25:18.840 it's been fascinating to me to think of. 1560 01:25:20.239 --> 01:25:22.239 Caves and all. 1561 01:25:22.079 --> 01:25:25.760 The eras we've been through them, think of what caves 1562 01:25:25.880 --> 01:25:30.960 like cave structures. Yeah, but you know, some of the 1563 01:25:30.960 --> 01:25:34.199 things I've been watching when watching these different videos. 1564 01:25:33.800 --> 01:25:36.079 These outdoor videos, and I. 1565 01:25:36.000 --> 01:25:38.279 Don't know what states they're based ont of, but one 1566 01:25:38.319 --> 01:25:40.000 of the things I've learned about these areas is. 1567 01:25:40.840 --> 01:25:42.439 A lot of these stream beds and stuff. 1568 01:25:42.439 --> 01:25:45.039 Were these streams that come out of the mountain and 1569 01:25:45.079 --> 01:25:48.279 stuff like that, where they seem like they're coming they're 1570 01:25:48.279 --> 01:25:49.199 coming out of the ground. 1571 01:25:49.479 --> 01:25:51.880 Most likely there is a cave structure somewhere that's down 1572 01:25:51.920 --> 01:25:56.159 in that mountain or the hillside or whatever. Also down 1573 01:25:56.159 --> 01:26:00.399 the street, different stream beds where a lot of flow 1574 01:26:00.439 --> 01:26:03.359 come through and they try up over certain times a. 1575 01:26:03.399 --> 01:26:08.720 Year well, and where portions of the stream may try 1576 01:26:08.800 --> 01:26:10.000 up and then all a sudden you might see it 1577 01:26:10.039 --> 01:26:13.279 popping out and streaming somewhere else down below there's a 1578 01:26:13.319 --> 01:26:14.039 sign of a cave. 1579 01:26:14.119 --> 01:26:16.840 But you know, the thing is you always wonder is there. 1580 01:26:16.760 --> 01:26:20.319 An entrance for the year, is there I've always been 1581 01:26:20.640 --> 01:26:22.039 wanting to find stuff like that. 1582 01:26:22.279 --> 01:26:25.079 It's easier said than done, you know, But again, cave. 1583 01:26:24.880 --> 01:26:27.520 Structures, I would love to find more for the very 1584 01:26:27.560 --> 01:26:30.000 thought in the theory that you know, a lot of 1585 01:26:30.039 --> 01:26:33.279 us do believe that Sasquatch is a cave dweller, and 1586 01:26:33.359 --> 01:26:37.840 they they know where these places are, you know, they 1587 01:26:37.880 --> 01:26:39.920 know where they've lived there all their life. 1588 01:26:39.960 --> 01:26:42.239 So yeah, they know the territory better than we do, 1589 01:26:42.439 --> 01:26:47.079 of course. So that's something I want to constantly. 1590 01:26:46.680 --> 01:26:49.199 Keep an eye out, you know, if you're you know, 1591 01:26:49.319 --> 01:26:51.199 even if it looks like a cluster of rocks with 1592 01:26:51.319 --> 01:26:52.920 an opening, I want to investigate it. 1593 01:26:52.960 --> 01:26:56.640 I've done that numerous times. 1594 01:26:55.720 --> 01:26:59.399 Now over an elk One lake down below. I mean 1595 01:26:59.439 --> 01:27:01.560 I have seen things driving by looking up on the 1596 01:27:01.640 --> 01:27:04.760 high ridge side. They clearly do look like in the cave. 1597 01:27:06.000 --> 01:27:08.079 They don't look that asssible to a human, you know, 1598 01:27:08.680 --> 01:27:10.880 they look pretty steep, but maybe a bear. But I 1599 01:27:10.880 --> 01:27:15.039 don't know about us. I don't know, but I want 1600 01:27:15.039 --> 01:27:17.520 to keep my eyes open for possible case structures. 1601 01:27:17.560 --> 01:27:19.199 And if we come. 1602 01:27:19.079 --> 01:27:22.720 Across something that looks, you know, promising, I'm definitely gonna 1603 01:27:22.760 --> 01:27:23.239 check it out. 1604 01:27:24.680 --> 01:27:26.800 I mean hopefully it's not too hard to. 1605 01:27:26.800 --> 01:27:35.000 Get it to Yeah, it's well, you know they're out there. Yeah, 1606 01:27:35.199 --> 01:27:38.760 just getting at the right locations and be able to 1607 01:27:38.800 --> 01:27:42.199 find stuff like that and that that just how deep 1608 01:27:42.239 --> 01:27:44.880 do you want to go? As far as have much 1609 01:27:44.880 --> 01:27:47.520 time you got to play around with be able to 1610 01:27:47.560 --> 01:27:50.079 go deep and come back or you know, maybe just 1611 01:27:50.119 --> 01:27:52.479 take a day or two, just walk and stay overnight 1612 01:27:52.560 --> 01:27:55.399 and walk back the next day. I mean, you got 1613 01:27:55.439 --> 01:27:59.720 three hundred and sixty degrees too from I mean, which 1614 01:27:59.760 --> 01:28:01.600 way going to go? I mean, that's it's gonna be 1615 01:28:01.640 --> 01:28:05.439 happenstance unless you could get a good map or if 1616 01:28:05.479 --> 01:28:09.479 somebody could tell you where a cave systems at. Yeah, yeah, 1617 01:28:09.720 --> 01:28:12.840 you just have to you know, look around when you 1618 01:28:12.920 --> 01:28:15.079 go out in the woods and you know, do what 1619 01:28:15.119 --> 01:28:18.359 we do. Uh. And who's to say if he's the smartest, 1620 01:28:18.399 --> 01:28:22.239 I think they should be that there may be entrances 1621 01:28:22.319 --> 01:28:24.359 out there that may be camouflaged. 1622 01:28:25.000 --> 01:28:28.439 No, that's true. Yeah, I've actually given that some plot too. 1623 01:28:28.880 --> 01:28:32.119 But yeah, I mean how well is the Kimbalid I 1624 01:28:32.119 --> 01:28:35.640 would would question is would we be able to identify. 1625 01:28:35.199 --> 01:28:38.000 Something that looks like okay, you know that looks like 1626 01:28:38.039 --> 01:28:39.800 something's covering something. You know, I don't know if that 1627 01:28:39.800 --> 01:28:40.960 would be possible. 1628 01:28:40.520 --> 01:28:43.000 But you'd have to get lucky. Yeah, that's true. 1629 01:28:43.079 --> 01:28:44.800 Also under behind one. 1630 01:28:44.960 --> 01:28:52.279 I mean it's it's not impossible, but it all depends 1631 01:28:52.319 --> 01:28:55.600 on how it's camouflage something that just wouldn't look like 1632 01:28:55.720 --> 01:28:59.880 something just in cult your attention just momentarily to be 1633 01:29:00.319 --> 01:29:04.439 check it out right, it's I mean, that's I mean, 1634 01:29:04.439 --> 01:29:08.720 you you go many different directions on that or something 1635 01:29:08.720 --> 01:29:10.159 to keep in the back of your mind. Look for 1636 01:29:10.199 --> 01:29:13.840 something that's not normal for that given area you're currently 1637 01:29:13.880 --> 01:29:20.600 at that may be concealing something Uh, look at everything 1638 01:29:20.640 --> 01:29:22.359 else you find out there you didn't mean to find 1639 01:29:23.119 --> 01:29:28.399 as far as out of the ordinary, right, if something's 1640 01:29:28.479 --> 01:29:33.239 concealed on purpose, I don't think it'll be hard. I 1641 01:29:33.239 --> 01:29:36.279 think it'd just be more luck than being hard to 1642 01:29:36.319 --> 01:29:37.840 be able to do that, being at the right place 1643 01:29:37.880 --> 01:29:43.640 and being able to come across it. Absolutely. Maybe that's 1644 01:29:43.680 --> 01:29:44.399 just my opinion. 1645 01:29:45.760 --> 01:29:48.800 Yeah, real quick, I want to make mention. As Faith 1646 01:29:48.880 --> 01:29:51.520 said during the chat, she's I can't wait to meet everyone. 1647 01:29:52.119 --> 01:29:54.439 She definitely plans on coming out to join us, but 1648 01:29:54.640 --> 01:29:56.039 it doesn't look like she'll be able to do it 1649 01:29:56.119 --> 01:30:02.079 this year un something changes on her end from Pennsylvania. However, 1650 01:30:02.119 --> 01:30:05.560 she's currently living in Indiana for the time being, so 1651 01:30:05.720 --> 01:30:09.920 she hopes to nake it out sometimes in the future, 1652 01:30:10.000 --> 01:30:14.399 but time will tell. I do want to make mention 1653 01:30:14.479 --> 01:30:16.600 of a couple other things. There's a few dates I 1654 01:30:16.600 --> 01:30:20.760 have written down, and these different dates will grow over 1655 01:30:20.800 --> 01:30:24.359 time as I'm waiting to get feedback from various locations. 1656 01:30:24.960 --> 01:30:28.520 For example, I have a few Bigfoot town hall gatherings scheduled. 1657 01:30:29.680 --> 01:30:32.000 I had one a few weeks ago. It was supposed 1658 01:30:32.000 --> 01:30:34.439 to be up to Pennsylvania. Because of weather, I cancel 1659 01:30:34.520 --> 01:30:38.600 her now but I'll go ahead and name these few 1660 01:30:38.680 --> 01:30:41.920 dates in the location where I'm holding these Bigfoot gatherings, 1661 01:30:42.159 --> 01:30:48.439 and they are taking place at public libraries. February twenty 1662 01:30:48.479 --> 01:30:53.560 eighth in Parkersburg, West Virginia, I'll be doing a presentation 1663 01:30:53.800 --> 01:30:55.720 and also I put it out there to where I'm 1664 01:30:55.760 --> 01:30:59.800 hoping hoping to gather some eyewitnesses that may come out 1665 01:31:00.159 --> 01:31:03.560 their stories as well. There is I do have a 1666 01:31:04.800 --> 01:31:06.439 during my stay out there. I'll be out there a 1667 01:31:06.439 --> 01:31:07.399 couple of days. 1668 01:31:07.199 --> 01:31:07.800 Before that. 1669 01:31:09.439 --> 01:31:10.479 Leading up to that date. 1670 01:31:10.760 --> 01:31:13.359 That date is on a Saturday, but I do have 1671 01:31:13.399 --> 01:31:17.880 an interview I'll be filming and in the individual. 1672 01:31:20.239 --> 01:31:28.119 Linda Linda will be out there, man braink Heart remembering 1673 01:31:28.359 --> 01:31:31.560 this last name. She's actually was a guest on here before. 1674 01:31:33.680 --> 01:31:38.039 And then March, the weekend of March nineteenth, the twenty first, 1675 01:31:38.960 --> 01:31:41.600 I will be I will be in Pennsylvania doing a 1676 01:31:42.520 --> 01:31:45.159 doing an investigation and a camp out for that weekend. 1677 01:31:47.520 --> 01:31:51.600 So yeah, that's March nineteenth and twenty first. Jump ahead 1678 01:31:51.600 --> 01:31:53.600 to May. Of course, we have our group camp out 1679 01:31:53.600 --> 01:31:58.800 here in Virginia May seventeenth, the twenty six and then 1680 01:31:58.880 --> 01:32:04.319 August fifteenth down in Alconey, South Carolina at the Alconey 1681 01:32:04.359 --> 01:32:07.279 Public Library. I have that set up and schedule with 1682 01:32:07.359 --> 01:32:12.880 them to do a public gathering town hall. Again. I'll 1683 01:32:12.920 --> 01:32:17.439 do a presentation here as well. And again these dates 1684 01:32:17.840 --> 01:32:20.960 I'm taking advantage of trying to put. 1685 01:32:20.880 --> 01:32:23.079 More word out there, you know. 1686 01:32:23.119 --> 01:32:27.119 I want to gather information, more reports. And again as 1687 01:32:27.119 --> 01:32:29.840 far as me doing presentations at these events, it's so 1688 01:32:29.960 --> 01:32:32.039 it's just a small part of me spreading awareness of 1689 01:32:32.079 --> 01:32:35.199 the research and the awareness of the Sasquatch. 1690 01:32:35.159 --> 01:32:35.359 You know. 1691 01:32:35.439 --> 01:32:39.119 So so I just want to throw out there also, 1692 01:32:39.279 --> 01:32:41.359 I want to throw out there to any of the listeners, 1693 01:32:43.000 --> 01:32:47.279 if anyone that's watches and has a big story and 1694 01:32:47.359 --> 01:32:49.000 you want to be a part of this podcast and 1695 01:32:49.119 --> 01:32:52.880 have your story told, you know, with no judgment. 1696 01:32:53.479 --> 01:32:56.119 Yeah, we like the question, you know, and ask questions 1697 01:32:56.239 --> 01:32:57.760 on the interviews and whatnot. 1698 01:32:58.359 --> 01:33:01.000 But again, this is a judgment free zone. 1699 01:33:01.720 --> 01:33:04.520 I want to welcome you guys, but come forward, and 1700 01:33:04.560 --> 01:33:06.199 if you do have a story and you want to share, 1701 01:33:06.399 --> 01:33:08.640 share it on here. Uh, send me an email if 1702 01:33:08.680 --> 01:33:10.920 you're not on Facebook with me, if you're not connected 1703 01:33:10.960 --> 01:33:13.880 with me on Facebook. Uh, if you can see my 1704 01:33:13.960 --> 01:33:17.359 email address right right over here. 1705 01:33:17.600 --> 01:33:19.439 Yeah, right above me over here. Uh. 1706 01:33:19.520 --> 01:33:22.399 E C b r O ninety eight at gmail dot com. 1707 01:33:22.439 --> 01:33:24.920 Send me an email again, that's E. C. B r 1708 01:33:24.960 --> 01:33:29.079 O ninety eight at gmail dot com. Oh yeah, there's 1709 01:33:29.079 --> 01:33:31.359 Those are just a few things I want to make mention. 1710 01:33:33.920 --> 01:33:35.359 Let's see what we got here. Make sure I'm not 1711 01:33:35.479 --> 01:33:38.720 listening to I think I covered pretty much everything I 1712 01:33:38.720 --> 01:33:39.960 had written down, so basically. 1713 01:33:42.960 --> 01:33:48.560 So yeah, so, ladies and gentlemen, Uh uh if there's 1714 01:33:48.600 --> 01:33:50.680 not anything else we want to share before we jump 1715 01:33:50.680 --> 01:33:55.720 out here, Oh hold on, well we've got uh. 1716 01:33:56.359 --> 01:33:58.079 Faith is asking have you ever been to the Last 1717 01:33:58.079 --> 01:33:59.279 City in West Virginia? 1718 01:33:59.680 --> 01:34:00.640 Very placed? 1719 01:34:00.680 --> 01:34:04.680 I'm pretty sure I saw quit that game the Lost 1720 01:34:04.680 --> 01:34:06.079 City in West Virginia. 1721 01:34:06.239 --> 01:34:09.560 I know about the Lost City West Virginia back off of. 1722 01:34:09.560 --> 01:34:11.960 Brocks Gap Road or the Lost River. 1723 01:34:14.279 --> 01:34:17.039 Yeah, I'm not familiar about Lost City. Uh is that 1724 01:34:17.119 --> 01:34:19.760 the same same thing as the Lost River? Camp Brown 1725 01:34:19.840 --> 01:34:22.199 or Camp Ver? I know right off of brox Scamp 1726 01:34:22.239 --> 01:34:23.239 Road there is a lost. 1727 01:34:23.479 --> 01:34:33.279 Lost ohcause that's just that's west of where we can't Yeah, yeah, 1728 01:34:33.920 --> 01:34:36.000 I almost lost. 1729 01:34:36.199 --> 01:34:38.399 I could have sort it was called Lost River the 1730 01:34:38.399 --> 01:34:44.399 one I'm thinking about. Uh, it might be Lost City. 1731 01:34:45.039 --> 01:34:45.880 I don't think it's river. 1732 01:34:46.640 --> 01:34:50.920 Yeah, Lost River State Park. Yeah, that's in my thighs, 1733 01:34:50.960 --> 01:34:53.039 West Virginia. Yeah, that's right up the road. 1734 01:34:53.520 --> 01:34:55.720 Maybe the Lost City backer too. I think I seen 1735 01:34:55.760 --> 01:34:57.159 a little sun on the Lost City. 1736 01:34:57.359 --> 01:35:00.840 Yeah, Lost City and Lost River from parts are in. 1737 01:35:00.800 --> 01:35:02.199 Hardy County, West Virginia. 1738 01:35:03.239 --> 01:35:08.880 Okay, the Lost City is where the what's that dam 1739 01:35:08.880 --> 01:35:09.239 back there? 1740 01:35:11.039 --> 01:35:11.239 Yeah? 1741 01:35:11.319 --> 01:35:13.479 Yeah, yeah, right off of two fifty. 1742 01:35:13.279 --> 01:35:15.359 Nine, So that's where our city is. 1743 01:35:15.600 --> 01:35:18.920 It's where that damne baggage. That's what you're talking about. 1744 01:35:19.319 --> 01:35:23.239 Yep, says what she said. Yeah, Lost Last City. 1745 01:35:23.840 --> 01:35:25.199 When I look it up on the map for showing 1746 01:35:25.279 --> 01:35:27.119 right off at two fifty nine, right up the road 1747 01:35:27.119 --> 01:35:28.880 from where we can't So. 1748 01:35:28.920 --> 01:35:33.359 Some of my great grandmother's ancestors, some of her family 1749 01:35:33.399 --> 01:35:38.239 members were buried there in the cemetery that's now underwater 1750 01:35:39.159 --> 01:35:39.760 because of. 1751 01:35:39.720 --> 01:35:42.319 The dam that was built there. What is the name 1752 01:35:42.359 --> 01:35:46.000 of that dam? 1753 01:35:46.399 --> 01:35:47.039 Uh? 1754 01:35:47.079 --> 01:35:56.319 And it's right in that area. Yeah. Uh I'm trying 1755 01:35:56.319 --> 01:35:59.600 to look on the map see for West Virginia. Dam 1756 01:36:00.039 --> 01:36:05.239 yeh Nope, not Parker Hollow, New. 1757 01:36:06.760 --> 01:36:07.560 Parker Hollow. 1758 01:36:07.600 --> 01:36:11.319 Rude Ay, yeah, yay. 1759 01:36:13.159 --> 01:36:13.720 Mhm. 1760 01:36:18.239 --> 01:36:21.279 Is there a part of uh no, no, damn. 1761 01:36:25.479 --> 01:36:33.399 Hmm, that's not it. Well, it doesn't matter as far 1762 01:36:33.399 --> 01:36:38.880 as that. Okay, well that's pretty cool. Mhm thot. 1763 01:36:41.640 --> 01:36:45.880 Yeah, well I guess you know what, guys, Uh, I'm sure. 1764 01:36:46.000 --> 01:36:48.520 I mean if technically we could probably keep going, which 1765 01:36:48.880 --> 01:36:50.800 I wouldn't mind, but I know it's late for. 1766 01:36:50.800 --> 01:36:51.439 A lot of people. 1767 01:36:52.119 --> 01:36:54.199 Uh it's ten thirty eight pm here on the. 1768 01:36:54.359 --> 01:36:58.079 Coast, so uh but yeah, I want to thank you 1769 01:36:58.159 --> 01:37:01.960 guys for coming on listening chatting with us tonight. Uh 1770 01:37:02.199 --> 01:37:04.840 again Friday and Saturday night, there will be live podcast 1771 01:37:05.000 --> 01:37:08.359 right here with our guests all so come tune in 1772 01:37:08.760 --> 01:37:10.439 interact like you guys have been doing all here in 1773 01:37:10.560 --> 01:37:13.079 the live chat. Would be great. We appreciate the interaction 1774 01:37:13.159 --> 01:37:13.800 on the live chat. 1775 01:37:14.680 --> 01:37:14.800 Uh. 1776 01:37:14.960 --> 01:37:16.760 If you guys have questions for the guests, we try 1777 01:37:16.800 --> 01:37:18.520 to bring them up and share them on the screen. 1778 01:37:19.279 --> 01:37:23.720 And depending on how how in depth our guests. 1779 01:37:23.520 --> 01:37:28.039 Are are in there your talk. 1780 01:37:28.359 --> 01:37:31.199 You know that we may not always get to questions 1781 01:37:31.319 --> 01:37:33.319 right on time, but we will try our best. 1782 01:37:33.600 --> 01:37:39.960 So uh, thank you guys again and uh so next guys, 1783 01:37:40.000 --> 01:37:42.119 we'll keep it squatch Yeah, everyone keep it squatchy. 1784 01:37:42.960 --> 01:37:46.520 And uh yeah, yep, thank everyon