Speaker 1: Fuckay, we'll do it live.
Speaker 2: We are live.
Speaker 1: I know what's up. Everybody's not here, no Carlin. Ryan's
gonna try to come, but he's feeling a lot under
the weather, so we'll see. We'll see if he shows up.
Is there anybody? Is there anybody here? Mendy, what's up?
Join us in the chat room, Mendy. I didn't take
any notes, dude, all.
Speaker 2: Right, m I didn't watch either reunion.
Speaker 1: So, oh well, okay, it's gonna be quite the show.
Speaker 2: I just tried to join you guys, couldn't hear me?
Speaker 1: I sent the link with the with the other R.
Speaker 2: I sent the audience link, um m m that would
be Why so.
Speaker 1: Mendy, Mendy, are you gonna call in tonight? Mendy, you
should because Wolfie didn't watch the re union and I
didn't take any notes, so I don't know what the
fuck we're gonna talk about.
Speaker 2: Nope, did not.
Speaker 1: Bother gonna be an interesting uh, not an interesting episode
at all.
Speaker 2: Sue somebody wins. I'm done with the season. I don't
need anything else.
Speaker 1: There's car.
Speaker 3: Oh can you guys hear me? Now?
Speaker 1: Yep, we hear you. Like the Verizon guy, you were
you were.
Speaker 2: In the audience before, That's what you were in the audience, Yeah, audience. Jeez,
well I'm you wanted.
Speaker 3: God, there's no way in hell. I was digging through
my Facebook messages right now. I it has taken me
almost five hours to get from Minneapolis to not even
at Des Moines. Yet that's supposed to be a three
hour drive.
Speaker 1: Uh, it was white out. What's going on?
Speaker 3: Out conditions? Yeah, whiteout conditions from Minneapolis to the Iowa
state border. A little bit past that, then everybody's you know,
going a little bit more cautiously. And then about twenty
minutes ago, we hit a freak snowstorm that dumped four
inches of snow on the ground and there were cars everywhere.
Speaker 2: Shouldn't be traveling anyway? What are you even doing? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what the fuck?
Speaker 3: I mean? Now, the roads are relatively clear and everything's
going okay, but I it's but it's also super fucking windy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was crazy here the wind was I've forgotten already, Carling,
where are you going? What's what's up with you?
Speaker 3: I'm going back to Denver.
Speaker 1: Going to Denver, Yeah, going back home.
Speaker 2: Applied for a job and Denner maybe I can go
live with your parents.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of basement.
Speaker 2: We've got a huge house. We saw it in the
video too.
Speaker 1: You could live there. They won't even know. We'll be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's you guys.
Speaker 1: This week. Ben, oh good, we're in the full episode Wolf,
He says, we're not doing a pre show, so this
is the actual.
Speaker 2: Episode, just one long, one giant episode, show regular show
after show. It's all one show.
Speaker 1: But we can still talk about our weeks's who cares?
I don't think. I don't think if you didn't watch
the re union, so he's not gonna have anything to say.
I don't have any notes. I did listen to its show.
You listen, you listened to the reunion?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean I was had it playing while
I was doing other things. Honestly, you don't even really
need to like watch what they're doing because it's just
a bunch of people talking. No.
Speaker 1: And what I thought was weird is like it rehashed
some of the ship from earlier and it's like, you know,
this season started in July.
Speaker 3: I forgot that Logan was even on it. Forgot that
on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when it showed John A at this on the stage,
I'm like, what the fuck? Why is she the Oh yeah,
she was in the show for a minute.
Speaker 3: Derek Sas was on the show, like Leroy, Like, what
the fuck?
Speaker 1: Like I forgot all these people? Uh yeah, it's been forever.
Speaker 3: Honestly, I almost forgot THEA. I basically forgot the Banna's
was on the show.
Speaker 1: Have a reunion all about him? Didn't he?
Speaker 3: Of course he did because his tinker Bell. Yeah, all right,
he's gonna die.
Speaker 1: Since you didn't watch this, Wolfe, I'm going to ask
you one of the most surprising parts to me, or
maybe I shouldn't have introduced it that way, where do
you think where do you think Dean Banana's relationship stands
these days?
Speaker 2: If you had to guess, right, don't like each other,
don't follow each other on social media, kind of talk
since the show?
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean I I would have guessed that they
hadn't talked, but I wouldn't have guessed at their enemies.
I would have thought, like, it's oh again, they leave
the house. It's over.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I would have guessed. And I would
have assumed that, you know, if she wereried a woman
who had a reasonable head on her shoulders, that that's
what she would do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not at all.
Speaker 3: What's happening.
Speaker 1: No, apparently, Well, if it's a real thing, they are
they are hooking up outside of the show. It seems
to be like a friend with benefits when it's convenient
for her type of a thing.
Speaker 3: He joked about her being his future wife.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, she's it seems like a real thing.
I don't think it's boyfriend girlfriend, but it's like they're no.
Speaker 3: But Devin did call him out for She's you've known
him for seventeen years and that when he starts catching feelings,
he tends to deflect about and tries to make jokes
about it and all that sort of things. She's like,
you cud feelings, didn't you? Yeah, Devin Simone, Devin the
uh female Devin with the with the wig that they buried.
Speaker 2: Yes. They used to co host the Official Challenge podcast,
which is now over. We have outlasted yet another giant podcast.
Speaker 1: The Official One Dude, We Beat It. We started before
them and it ended after them, a pathetic two hundred
and fifty episodes. Pathetic, guys.
Speaker 3: Pathetic, I mean, honestly, do you guys ever listen to
any of the Official Challenge podcasts. It was so bad.
It just the whole point of listening to it is
like you want to hear tea behind the scenes and
all that sort of thing, and like they would bring
people on occasionally who were on the show or what.
You never got any it just it was bad. They
played games and they did like you know, oh, who
would be the shadiest personally? Just it was dumb. It
just wasn't.
Speaker 1: It.
Speaker 3: She's dumb. And for a while there I had I
stopped listening when it was Tory and Anissa hosting. Anissa
wasn't even on the season they were talking about and
she got super fucking annoying, like, Nissa, you are bad
at this game anyway, and now you're chiming in on
all of these people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she drove me nuts. She drove me nuts to
this union because she's like my age and she's really
like she's too old to be doing like the drama
shit that she's doing, and like, who was it? She
called Casey after the show and saddled that Nanni cheated,
which I believe Johnnie would have fessed up to Casey
and she should have been given that chance to do that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Anissa tried to couch it in. They like, Oh,
I only called her because I wanted to talk to
her about you because I was worried about you in
the way that you're acting.
Speaker 1: Fuck off, She's so full of shit. Yeah, yeah, she sucks, dude.
I like her less every time, Sam, What did you think,
carln They rehashed the physical ability thing.
Speaker 3: I was just about to say that, I okay, I'm
all for Anissa and for anyone putting it in their
head they can do whatever the fuck they want because
they can. You can do whatever you want. You can be,
you know, the best athlete you could ever possibly be.
We watched Devon sitting on that state. We watched Devon
climb a fucking mountain and never thought that she would
make it to the end of that final, like you
can do it. But the fact that she be as
delusional as you want in your own head, but saying
it out loud that she could win that season when
you had all of those insane athletes, there is just
I'm one with Ashley. It is so beyond delusional.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Team Ashley, Team Ashley talking about yes, teams Yes,
Anissa has no like, what is she talking about? And
like Jake was standing up for an so like, oh,
she's just hyping herself up. You gotta do that. You
gotta believe in yourself.
Speaker 3: And it's like, yeah, believe in yourself all you want,
but don't be realistic.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, it's not realistic to think you're gonna win this, Anissa,
and like, come come back reality here. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The fact that a Nissa wouldn't back down and wouldn't
just say yeah, I was being delusional to push myself farther.
That's all she had to say, Yeah, I've been doing
that to push myself farther. Not if she had said that,
that whole thing would have been dropped, like okay, cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think you know when people say that
sort of shit like don't tell me what I can't do.
I can do anything I put my mind to. I
don't think that like with physical shit that doesn't work. Yeah,
you know what I mean. Like if you're talking about
going to school or like working hard or like doing
these things, like okay, you can you can do anything
you put your mind too, fine, but this physical it's
like if you can't run a marathon, you just can't
do it. You know. It's a body limitation thing.
Speaker 3: I will say, and I'm gonna eat my words here
a little bit from few seasons ago. There is an
extent of if you feel like you can do it anything,
you can do it physically, yes, you can do it,
but it's going to take the time and effort and
training to do that. And the perfect example of that
is Nelson Nellie t lost a leg and the shit
that that kid is doing nowadays, the running that he's doing,
the athletics that he's doing, is I am floored by
how much effort he has put in and how far
he has gone in like two years.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So if you put in that time and effort, yes,
you absolutely can do whatever you want, like climb a
mountain all that sort. But Anissa, in less than a
year you lost forty pounds and you've gotten into better shape.
You are not in shape enough to beat all of
these people. There is no way in fucking hell you
would have beat Sydney.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's in her way in hell minimum she's in
her forties and she's never been in particularly good shape ever. Yeah.
So yeah, it's like you're not gonna beat year me
up this mount Like you're just not going to do it.
You know, I don't know. It's just she's absurd. She's ridiculous.
Speaker 3: No, I mean that whole conversation was just so asinine.
I was one thousand percent on Ashley's side there totally.
Speaker 1: What do you think of Jake's new hair?
Speaker 3: Oh I didn't even see it, but oh yeah I
did see it. He it was the new hair and
the super tan he's gotten full.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he looks terrible. That the fake hair is is awful, Wolfy.
Even you and I wouldn't get fake hair like he's got. Yeah,
he's got the hairline. It's like straight. It's like Shay's
hairline when he had the two peg.
Speaker 3: It's just like this weird straight line.
Speaker 1: It's like it looks super unnatural and weird.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah it was. It was not a great look
for that kid. Maybe it's maybe it's popular where he lives.
Speaker 1: Well, that had TJ on briefly, Wolfy. He was he
was asked to the standout rookie of the season. Was
do you have any guesses as to who he named?
Speaker 2: Well, considering Mandy just said, TJ, I love Sydney and the.
Speaker 1: Yeah Mandy for me, yeah, it was Sydney. Do you agree,
we'll be with that assessment.
Speaker 2: Uh, I mean maybe. I mean Jeremie won. We were
amazed with him all season.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, I you know, in all really, I
like Sidney was good, and she was great in the finale.
I'm not gonna take that away from it. She's great
in the finale, But throughout the season I didn't see
her as like the standout female. I mean maybe of
the rookies, but I just I don't know, there were
there were a lot of other women who did really,
really well. I don't know. I just throughout the season,
she didn't seem like the top one to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think for TJ was not all athletics. I
think he likes her attitude too, like she's just a
very cocky, yeah person. He even talks about doing an interview
with her before she was on the show, which I
kind of called bullshit. I don't think TJ's got that power. No,
I don't think he's a props guy. But because I
think that, I think propes interviews these motherfuckers before you let.
Speaker 3: The survivor, right, Yeah, I could see that. I mean
everybody says it's TJ's final, and it's TJ's this and
it's no, it's not. That's the language, probably because that's
the language in the Survivor. But I'm just assuming and
it's fun to give.
Speaker 2: Really, And you think PROP does that on Survivor, Run
my final you run my you know my elimination.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I don't. I don't think TJ has
that power either.
Speaker 1: Mindy says he interviewed all of them on episode Z.
I didn't watch episode zero either.
Speaker 3: That's right, he did talk about Okay, so if the
interview that he's talking about is episode zero, then yeah,
he quote unquote interviewed her. But that was like they
were sitting in a dark room. It was all for
theatrics they have.
Speaker 1: She was on the show already, she'd not even selected.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was it wasn't It wasn't like an interview
prior to the show. It was it was for the
theatrical part of the show, so that we could all
learn who these people were. Yeah, and it was all
just like stupid bullshit questions of like why should you
be here? And you know, what makes you a good challenger?
And it was Yeah, that.
Speaker 1: Was I do think Sidney is a good narrator. I
think she's really funny in the confessionals, Like, I like
her attitude. I know she's kind of a bitch and
she's like super like cocky and aggressive, but I kind
of like that.
Speaker 3: I really liked some of the shit that she said,
as long as she wasn't doing the like the thing
that drove me nuts was the like, yeah, I'm the
fucking best when she was being like media ok her, Yeah,
like that that was what drove me nuts. But her
random comments and parts of it, there were some confessionals
of hers that were just gold.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And what I really liked it too, is like
the first time it went to her in this reunion
to talk about like her experience whatever, she just launched
into Turbo and what a fucking dick Turbo is.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I did not hold back at all.
Speaker 1: Didn't hold back in Turbos, sitting right next to her,
and she just gives no shits. Man, She's just saying
all this shit right to him. It was great. I
really liked it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was very impressed with that because that is
not a common thing for anyone, let alone another challenger,
to do well. If she literally like she laid it
all out, she was like he would get mad at
me if I even said good ring to THEO I
made tea at one point in time for like Jeremy,
and he freaked out about that. He didn't want me
to call my boy Like she called out the not
wanting to call her boyfriend thing, saying that she then
had to in order to call him, she had to
do it like in secret, and.
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah. But then she also so she put like this,
I don't want to call it spin, but she like,
you know, she said at the end that like that's
kind of what she had to do to win the game.
To be a good partner to Turbo, you have to
like let him be the alpha. You have to like
sort of let him do that. And so she sort
of like took a more like a calmer role and
didn't stand up to him too much. So I think
now she is, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Feel like that was I feel like she has had
some distance since the final She's had some distance since
living in a house with him, and has probably had
a little bit a little bit of therapy, whether it's
with friends or actual therapy, and has been able to
distance it in that way because I don't I think
if this finale had happened or this ring. It had
happened right after the finale, she would have been pissed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she seemed pissed in those in a nice way. Yeah,
at the end of the final Yeah, those confessionals, she
was pissed. But yeah, I thought that was I thought
that was interesting. I like to Sitdney there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean her post credit he did say
something along the lines of like, yeah, I am alpha.
I that's how I grew up. I did it all
in the way that I grew up, but I am
learning that I can't do it. And even Johnny Bananas
sat there was like, look, you you play this game
at one hundred percent all the time, and not everybody
can do that, and term it was like, yeah, I
get the like I learned that other people need their
social lives in order to actually participate in this game.
To get everybody, including you need your social life.
Speaker 1: Yes, but that is and like you said it in
a way of like, you know, I didn't want her
calling home because then you miss home and then you're
less willing to fight to stay here.
Speaker 3: Yea.
Speaker 1: And it's like, as you said it, it's like all right, logically,
like I get the train of lodge like, I see
what you're saying, and we have to behave Like that's abuse.
That's abuse. Thousands separate your partner from their loved ones
and from their life back home, and when you isolate, like,
that's an abusive thing that you're doing.
Speaker 3: That's cult leadership. Yeah, like not even choking, it's cult leadership.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No. And we have seen seen players in the past
where when they call home they start crying and they
get so emotional, and then they do come out of
those uh times on the phone saying all I want
to do is a home. I don't want to be here.
I don't take Sydney as the type of person to
do that.
Speaker 1: No, that seemed like one of those retroactive things of
like Turbo realized that it sort of sucks up and
it's like, oh, what how can I spin this? That's
and that's what he landed on, and it's it makes
sense if you don't think about it at all, But
too bad for him. I thought about it.
Speaker 3: Soooo, I've made it to de Moine.
Speaker 1: Oh does Moine us.
Speaker 3: Five hours into a five hour drive?
Speaker 1: My geography is all fucked up? Is Des Moines? Like,
are you're going like straight south? Right? Are you going to?
Speaker 3: The Moine is directly south of Minneapolis?
Speaker 1: Man? I pictured Des Moines as way further east.
Speaker 3: No, literally straight south?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe you.
Speaker 3: But thirty five is almost a straight line.
Speaker 1: Yea. Minnesota is right above Iowa. Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Just hit to Moine. I'm getting onto I eighty to
take it basically directly west, and I'm stopping in Omaha
for the night. There ain't no way I'm doing that
drive overnight where you're going Omaha tonight? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh dude, you should hang out with h what's that
guy Wolf from We're Here to Help? The guy with
the list, Steve Burg. He lives in Steve Burg, Steve
Burg List.
Speaker 2: If you listen to Here to Help, you would know
he's got a list.
Speaker 3: No, that's the co host with Nick from Uh.
Speaker 1: No, it's not our buddy. It's one of the.
Speaker 3: Help isn't Help to Help from from New Girl.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Steve Burg is not the co host.
Speaker 1: He's just a buddy that stops in something.
Speaker 2: Has his own show on their show Weird Here to Help?
Speaker 3: Oh gotcha? Gotcha? I yes, yes, yes, you've talked about
us before.
Speaker 1: But he's been he's in Omaha, Okay. Uh, and so
is three eleven or there? From there? Maybe you can
hang out three eleven too, great band.
Speaker 2: Because amber is the color of your energy.
Speaker 1: Carlyn Colin, do you know three eleven?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I do know three eleven. I've seen them in
concert a few times.
Speaker 1: No ship, me too, Yeah, we match they.
Speaker 3: Pepper was the opener quite a few times when I
was in college.
Speaker 1: Pepper.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're a band from Hawaii. On the basis is
a kid that I went to high school with.
Speaker 1: No ship. Do they have a hit? A hit? I
would have known.
Speaker 3: Uh, yeah, probably if you like three eleven, But I
can't think of it off the top of my head.
I haven't listened to them in the years.
Speaker 1: Mhm, Pepper, Well, what else will be? What else you
want to talk about with the reenion? What else can
we shine light for you?
Speaker 2: I didn't watch nothing.
Speaker 3: Everyone else was in there.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of Mikayla versus Olivia and theo
oh yeah. To be honest, I still didn't understand their conflicts.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: I think and Olivia look like insane people.
Speaker 3: Frankly, yeah, it's they were. They were still mad at
Mikayla for the ship that she said, like under her bread, Like,
Mikayla does not strike me as an inherently violent person,
and when she gets frustrated would say shit like I'm
gonna fucking kill you, like things that everybody does when
you get really frustrated, you just say shit that it
doesn't actually mean anything. You're not gonna do anything about it. Yeah,
then Olivia would take it to the next level. And yeah,
they were all smad about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was insane. Yes, Olivia or uh sorry, Mikayla
said I'm gonna punch you in your face. Yeah, they
took that as like a legitimate physical threat. But that's
not what that like, Carl and I agree with you,
that's not what that was. That was just an expression
of just like fun, I'm gonna beat the shit out
of you if you keep it. Doesn't mean they're gonna
do it. It's just like an expression.
Speaker 3: It was so frustrated when the ship that THEO had
been pulling, like consistently pulling, and then is pulling it again. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we see that all the time. We saw
that on the reunion of like I'm gonna beat the
ship out of you. Wait till we get back to stoge,
I'm gonna beat the shit out of you. It's like
you're not actually doing it though, so I don't. Ye.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we saw the the CT and Turbo their relationship
and oh it's completely broken down. They no longer, they're
not friends anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh, Turbo says a really great some really great line.
I can't remember it exactly, but like I have multi
personalities and none of them want to.
Speaker 1: Deal with CT. That was pretty funny.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was pretty good. It made me laugh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that whole controversy, that whole fight seems pretty
contrived and weird and CT, I guess shared on social media. Uh,
private messages between Turbo and CT.
Speaker 3: Are they cool now?
Speaker 1: Well, I guess they were. They were cool before the reunion,
they had their big like fight or whatever on the
reunion and then like they're cool afterwards, which again just
makes it seem like it's all for show more probably
a Turbos front than CT, just because we know CT
will beat the ship out of you if you offend him.
But yeah, yeah, he at one point if he threw
out threw down cards and he was I forget what
the words are, but he's like, CT, you are beloved
and you are incredible and you're talented and like, at
the end of it, it spelled out bitch and he's like,
you're a bitch. CT, You're a bitch, and then CT
like started yelling back. It was all really stupid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had was He was definitely playing up a
lot of this. I think he's trying to get into
that acting game.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, or at least get a call back.
Speaker 3: Yeah. What else had they talked about? They talked about.
Speaker 2: Sad I missed all this, so I didn't watch for
hours or was it three hours altogether?
Speaker 1: I think it was three hours all together, you know,
two hours without commercials.
Speaker 2: It's a long I don't really care that I missed this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're feeling you on the highlights.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh, I guess Nannie had to choose between Cedric and
Will to who she's gonna fuck. Cedric was a close second.
Speaker 3: She did. She did qualit, like absolutely say that Will
is really good in bed.
Speaker 1: So yeah, hated Will this this three and you hated him?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's right, because there was a Will and
Olivia thing. They were talking about partners and like partnerships
that went south and were shitting and all that sort
of thing. And Will was like, you know, I was
I was tired of carrying you.
Speaker 4: Like I had.
Speaker 3: I felt like that's all I was doing, was carrying you.
And she was like, what do you mean you were
carrying me? Like you didn't never give me a chance
to try to do well, like I did really well
with Jeremy because Jeremy believed in me, so therefore I
believed in him.
Speaker 1: And really that introduced a really good conversation I think
when and it was Yearmy that chimed in and said,
you know, like because Will said something like I'm not
the partner that's gonna baby you throughout this or whatever. Yeah,
and near Me was like, hey, listen, you do what
you have to do. And Olivia was my partner, and
I did what I had to do to like be
a good partner for her.
Speaker 3: And you have to adapt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you have to adapt, you have to
be able to do it. And if you can't be
a good partner to her, that's that's on you. It's
not on her, like that's on you. And I thought
that was really smart of like, I don't know, I
like that perspective of the army.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really appreciated gearing me saying that because it's
true of any partnership, like you have to adapt to
your partner and their partnership style as well. Yeah, like
both both partners have to adapt, but if one is
really making it a pain in the ass for the other,
then the other is not going to have any incentive
to adapt to them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Will looked like a real fucking piece of
shit sitting up there saying like, well, I was the
better partner than Olivia. I was carrying her. Olivia won
the fucking season. Will, she won, Dude, she's the champ. Like,
what the fuck are you talking about that you carry her?
She won the show? So yeah, I don't know. That
guy sucks. He has a good looks, a good looking guy,
but he sucks.
Speaker 3: It did lead into another partnership, toxic partnership. The Gabe
and John a partnership actually appreciated this one idle what happened? Yeah,
so Gabe full full took responsibility for all of his bullshit.
He was like, look, I I realized I talked down
to John Ay, I talked ship in confessionals, I was
you know, I didn't feel like I was performing up
to the standards that I would expect from myself, and
he he took full responsibility for all of it. And
like john A was sitting directly next to him, and
you know, Rubnischler, and like, you know, I see the
growth in you, I see the change in you. It
seems like they like he has actually done real work
since leaving the show to better himself than understand why
he was such an asshole and why so many people
didn't like him. So if the show comes back, I
would actually be interested to see if that has actually changed,
or if he's going to be a FESSI and come
back the next season and just be a complete dickhead.
Speaker 1: They're hugging right now if you look look at Johnny
and yeah, they're hugging. Good for Yeah, Carl and I
had the same impression. We rarely, I mean rarely, we
almost never see this where a challengers apologizes the right way.
He did not make up excuses or he just said, hey,
I fucked up. That was really mean, I did it.
I did it wrong. Hopefully I'll do better next time.
I mean, he just yeah, And in.
Speaker 3: His apology, there were no he was not blaming anyone else.
He did not try to point fingers at anyone else
on that stage. He took full responsibility. He ologized to everyone.
They Michelle or Mikhayla even called at one point in
time that in the season, the women that he seemed
to have the most problem with were all black women,
and he apologized for that. He didn't want that to happen,
And like I was, I was floored by how much
accountability he was taken, because you never see that in
these shows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he must have something going on at home. Well,
I mean if they point out, like it's only seems
like only black women, you were shitty too. Yeah, maybe
he's got problems with his mom or something growing up
and he's taken them that realizing it.
Speaker 1: Did it say that on the show, Like, it definitely
said that. That seemed like new information to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it said it on the actual show.
They did say it on the ringion though, Sorry, yeah
that's what you meant I heard. Yeah, both he and
John a Are are adopted, so apparently they bonded throughout
the show on kind of their shared history, which is
why it was so odd to her as to why
that partnership went so left.
Speaker 2: Yep, my uh professional therapist opinion hung up on the
adoption thing and why his mom gave him up, So
he treats all black women that way. Maybe, well, hopefully
he's got some work done.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, he seemed like he has put in
some work. I hope that that that helps him continues.
Speaker 1: Yep, and Devin looked smoking hot. She looks real good.
Speaker 3: Devan's been looking smoking hot for years though.
Speaker 1: Maybe I haven't seen her since the show. She was like,
I don't know, like she's done it on this union.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's done a few hosting gigs and things with
other like done some Bravo crossover and yeah, the girl
looks real fucking good.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm pretty sure I saw her on Amazon one
time selling me something and it's past all.
Speaker 3: The stars do the Amazon lives notice.
Speaker 1: Dude, it's so weird. I'm scoring on Reddit sometimes just
like and there's Jimmy selling me like whatever Jimmy is
selling now sex. Yeah, Jimmy is in like some ads
and like they've do. These algorithms are so smart now
they put these like mid tier influencers that you just
happen to know, and they like end up on your feet.
Natal the other Natalie is one too, That big brother Natalie,
the one that Bananas hooked up with. Yeah, she sells
me makeup a lot. As I'm scrolling, What the fuck
are you doing?
Speaker 2: The one that was somewhat out on the show? Yeah,
really want to be makeup make.
Speaker 3: Up on while you're watching it.
Speaker 1: That's the thing. Why does the algorithm understand I don't
want to see this fucking ship.
Speaker 3: You would do the weird kink where you just want
to watch her put on makeup but just vomit. Feel
shame about it.
Speaker 1: It's just like it's like it's like Exorcist vomit when
she shows up makeup done. Yeah, all right, Mendy, are
you the only person in the chat? This is all
we're going to get tonight, Just Mendy.
Speaker 2: There's three people in there. But it.
Speaker 3: Did when did When did we announce that we were
doing a call.
Speaker 2: In show this morning?
Speaker 1: Well, and nobody watches the reunions we do. We don't
traditionally cover them. I thought I thought we'd get a
couple listeners that would want to talk to us, But.
Speaker 2: He posted on the Fast this morning and some Patreon notification.
Speaker 1: I posted on the Patreon discord. But it's still doesn't Mendy,
are you going to call in, Mendy, come talk to us.
We're already out of stuff to talk about and we're
thirty minutes.
Speaker 3: And yeah, because I don't remember if there was anything
else that was.
Speaker 1: He talked about. CT confirmed that he did not throw
the challenge. He just was able to do it, which
I think we all kind of knew that.
Speaker 3: Oh we did get a whole thing on everybody who cheated. Happened?
You know, who put up your hands if you cheated,
And it was a lot of back and forth, like
some people put up hands and people were like, I'm
not putting my hand up until every there's a obviously
put yours up.
Speaker 1: Leroy I think, was the only one that admitted it
that he cheated.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and like we had John Ay and a
few other people who were like they they very blatantly did.
They were at the very end of things. So like
he did it while on the show.
Speaker 1: And listen, I'm team John A on this. I like,
I agree with her that every single other person is cheating,
they're gonna you have to assume they're gonna get a
penalty whatever. She just get the same penalty yep, like
that's I don't blame john A for one second for
doing what she did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, THEO tried to tell you tell everybody that he
didn't throw his stuff away, in which case everybody came
back like, oh no, you just put it in your pockets.
I guarantee you THEO chet at Cheatah, there is no
way in hell that man did not cheat.
Speaker 1: I think that was a little tongue and she he
was he I think he was confirming I cheated, but
I didn't throw it behind me.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think he like put it in his pockets or something.
He cheated in a different way. Yeah, but yeah, so
he more or less confirmed. I think almost everybody cheated
that challenge.
Speaker 3: Frankly, yeah, I would have just spread up like Derek
and a bunch of the guys, like the older guys
were talking about how that really was like the toughest
eating challenge they've ever had, and CT looked at him
like he grew with a second head, like who what
who are you Like, after all of the other shit
that we've had to eat, eating an onion and a
pepper were the hardest things you've ever had to eat?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh dude, I could plow through that onion. I've
eaten onions like apples, that's no problem. The garlic, I
don't know about the garl. I've never eaten a clove
of garlic. That sounds hard pepper. That's one of those things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like the clove of garlic is one
of those things that you would just like, you know,
bite off a chunk that's small enough that you can
just swallow it and swallow it. Yeah, don't chew it,
just swallow it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, plus is good for it.
Speaker 3: It is somewhere unless you're a Vanaga the Mosquitos.
Speaker 2: We're down to two people in the chat room. People
don't there.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, it turns out nobody gives a shit
about these reunions. Well, we talked about it. They killed
the official podcast, They've killed a bunch of other MTV properties,
although they are still talking about forty two as if
it's going to happen. What do you guys think?
Speaker 3: Yeah, they did a lot of talk on this episode
or on the whole reunion thing of like, oh, well
you know when I come back. Oh, they gave they
gave Olivia and THEO a basket of goodies and one
of them was a baby onesie that said future Challenge Champ.
My iddiate thought to that was I sort of got it.
The show is still going when that kid is old
enough to be part of it. I don't know what I'm.
Speaker 1: Gonna do well, and I forget who what? Maybe Bananas
or ct. It was one of the old guys who said,
you know, I've done this with a lot of rookie teams.
This is the best rookie team we've had. You guys
can carry this franchise. Whatever. Yeah, they spoke about it
in a very forward thinking way, but I'm still I'm
not confident same to have a theory.
Speaker 2: No, No, it's hard telling. I mean, Paramounts falling apart
because it's owned by a mag of people now, so
we'll probably get rid of everything and replace it all
with some bullshit.
Speaker 1: Right, And isn't there something like like the Paramount Sundance
merger happened, but now there's also what's happening now with
Warner Brothers with a Netflix or something like there's another
bio that could they could influence this.
Speaker 3: Yet didn't I see something about Paramount was trying to
beat Netflix buying Warner Brothers Or is.
Speaker 1: That they have dropped Paramounts dropped out of the bid, gotcha.
Speaker 2: So it's pretty pretty confident it's Netflix at this point.
Speaker 1: Netflix is gonna buy Warner Brothers, so that's not going
to influence that the paramount stuff at all.
Speaker 2: No, it's going to be disastrous for theatrical movies and
uh physical media releases, as they say with the Wall
of So yeah, you know, movies are going to be
uh terrible going forward.
Speaker 1: Dude. This mole media consolidation thing is bad for the world. Yeah,
I mean, it's like, yeah, literally everything, but Trump's approving it,
so you know.
Speaker 2: A piece of ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah. Yeah, So in terms of forty two U,
it looks like it's probably not gonna be MTV. It
looks like it's probably gonna be Paramount plus. What happens,
But then you've got to think if if it's Paramount plus,
is they're still room for all stars, which I mean.
Speaker 3: I would almost rather at Paramount plus because then it's
easier to actually watch the fucking show. They have made
it so difficult in the last two years to watch
the regular show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they can swear, which I like, I like
to swear.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see. I don't I don't know. I don't
have a lot of confidence. And it seems like every
time something happens, it just like points to it's over.
Like they've canceled everything on MTV now that canceled the podcast. Yeah,
we'll see. I guess we'll see by February.
Speaker 2: Just trying to trying to call in Mandy.
Speaker 1: You gotta be on a computer not a phone.
Speaker 2: Maybe, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Or if you're the only one, we can just send
you the link that that Carlin uses.
Speaker 4: In me.
Speaker 3: So is the is the call in link? Is they
can they not do it through the app?
Speaker 1: They have to if they the call in feature, they
have to do it on a computer. Interesting, but you can. Yeah,
you can let somebody on as a host if they're
on a phone. Upriver said very complicated. Yeah for the
Indian man, that's that's all. I got anything else to
talk about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a whole lot to talk about on there.
I mean, hold thirty eight minutes, yeah, request, I guess
I need I need more things to talk about, So
you guys can keep your like.
Speaker 1: We're trying to get, We're trying to get, We're trying
to get Mendy's in the chat room. She says she's
trying to call in. It says live call in, request,
live call in. Yeah, dude, hit whatever button, Mandy, hit
the button.
Speaker 2: Push the button.
Speaker 1: Push the fucking button, Mandy.
Speaker 2: Push it, push it real good, Colin.
Speaker 1: Do you know who sings that song?
Speaker 3: Isn't that Salt and Pepa?
Speaker 1: Oh it is Salt and Peppa Press. It's not that
young Tim Well, I these like, there's a few years
here that like those are important years because I was
pretty young when Push It came out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but every time I I every time that song
plays in my head, I don't see Salt and Peppa.
I see the female lead from Grandma's Boy. I can't
remember her name the sure, but I see her singing
yet in that movie.
Speaker 2: From the scuby Doo movies.
Speaker 1: Yes, all right, so Carlyn, here here's one for you.
Rob Yinder just died. Favorite Rob Reiner.
Speaker 3: Movie, The Princess Bride.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, all right, wow she got one. Yeah. Some
of these are lost in time, though, I swear I.
Speaker 3: Okay, so, in all honesty, I didn't know that he
directed that movie until three days ago. M M, yeah,
I only knew him as an actor. I didn't realize
that he was also a director, and then he'd done
a bunch of different movies that I enjoyed.
Speaker 1: He's so yeah, he's probably better known as a director,
although he's not. I don't know if he's like a
name name like like Steven Spielberger's me. Yeah, but I
bet he's got more hits as a director than as
an actor.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's your favorite Robber Inner movie?
Speaker 2: Wolf? Uh? I mean it's tough call.
Speaker 5: Following question, we hear you are, you can sort of
see you.
Speaker 1: Where are you right now? Are you in Hawaii?
Speaker 4: I'm in California.
Speaker 1: You're in California.
Speaker 4: Let's see. I turn my light up?
Speaker 1: Whereabouts? Where where are you in? Cali?
Speaker 4: Fullerton, Orange County?
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, it's beautiful there near Buddy.
Speaker 2: She's uh yeah, she's done. She's done.
Speaker 4: By the bye Disneyland, by Disneyland.
Speaker 1: We have me and Wolf, You have a buddy and
uh well, just Los Angeles proper.
Speaker 2: I don't know. He used to live in Studio City.
Speaker 1: I don't know, that's right, Studio City.
Speaker 4: I can't fix my light now it's on a little more.
I can't turn it up.
Speaker 6: In Fullerton, where Johnny Bananas went to school, was a
Bullerton Indian in high school like both my daughters, and it.
Speaker 1: Was an Indian. I was an Indian. I was.
Speaker 4: It's still Fluirton Indians.
Speaker 1: It's still as Aliens. Wow, there's very few Indians left.
My old alma mater is one of the few. Also.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because I looked it up and he Yeah, he
went to the same grammar school they went to. He
went to a different middle school because I didn't send
mine to that middle school. I got them to go
to different middle schools. But yeah, I was like, because
I've seen him here before.
Speaker 3: You've seen Bananas'd weird?
Speaker 1: It is at an airport? No way? Yeah I did.
I did.
Speaker 3: Where'd you meet him? Tim?
Speaker 1: At an airport in Orlando and he said what's up?
He said, what's up? Brother Mandy? Has he said anything
to you? I didn't.
Speaker 4: It was during COVID. I didn't say anything to him.
Speaker 6: But he was at the grocery store looking at cards
like birthday cards and with no mask or anything.
Speaker 3: What.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Johnny Bananas vaunting the rules to you?
Speaker 3: Like seeing him in in a grocery store or like
doing normal everyday things would be even weirder than seeing
him at an airport. Like seeing him at an airport,
you kind of like assume he's going to or from
a challenge, but seeing him in a grocery store is like,
oh you you really are a real human being.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I was like, hey, what up?
Speaker 2: Ship?
Speaker 4: And I wasn't going to give him that. It's like,
why aren't you wearing a mask? You? Yeah, I'm not
going to go up to you. Yes, I recognize you,
but I'm not going to go up to you.
Speaker 1: Put a mask on, bananas.
Speaker 3: Put them an ask on you fucking dipship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know he went to the mindy have you
seen bananas? Penis? No, you've got a book.
Speaker 3: No, it's not it's not large.
Speaker 1: It's small for me, like you know the penises I've seen.
It's on the small side.
Speaker 3: I mean penises. Have you seen Tim?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It's weird. It's weird to see somebody
that you know, that you've seen on TV and then
you see him in real life when you don't expect it.
That was the weirdest part. It's not that it was bananas.
It was this that like I'm just in an airport
and then he's right there, Like it was. It was
a very surreal thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you say, hey, what's up shorty?
Speaker 4: Yeah he's not real tall or anything.
Speaker 1: But none of these people are.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what would you think of the season?
Speaker 4: I liked it. It was good. I wish c T
was in better shape when he came on. But that sucked.
Speaker 3: I mean, lebroy really did have the best comment about him.
But Van has a body of three men, of three
guys with yeah, sitting there smoking. That's right. Dad bought
a three guys sitting there smoking cigarettes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that.
Speaker 3: His His quote was great.
Speaker 1: And he didn't apologize. He just he deserves it, deserve that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was fair.
Speaker 1: Yes, I like to go on.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go here, Sophia, get my life to work.
I can't throw my light on.
Speaker 2: Oh and he's old. She doesn't know how technology.
Speaker 1: Was switch switch on the wall, No up is on
down as all.
Speaker 4: It's for my fan.
Speaker 2: And it has run two six together.
Speaker 3: Watch No, Hey, she turned.
Speaker 1: Her light on, Sophia. Yeah, that's your daughter, my youngest.
Yeah is a really pretty name.
Speaker 3: It is many. Did you have a favorite part of
the season.
Speaker 4: Not that I could think of.
Speaker 3: No, not really. Well, did you watch the finale or
the reunion?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: What do you think of the riunion? It's like anything
to comment on there.
Speaker 4: It's always the same pretty much. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you drink milk?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: I told you I don't.
Speaker 1: My fridge no milk.
Speaker 2: Was obsessed with this idea of people milk.
Speaker 1: I was way off with my milkshit man, way off,
way off. I bet it's expensive in Hawaii though, right,
That's why I don't buy it in Hawaii.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 6: Plus, then I have to carry it home because I
want there's no car. I don't have a car or
anything there, So I try not to get heavy stuff
when I'm shopping.
Speaker 4: When I'm there.
Speaker 1: It could just be like your exercise though it milk.
Speaker 4: I well, I usually have other heavy stuff, soda and
club soda and yeah.
Speaker 1: So I've not been to Hawaii. No, never have.
Speaker 2: You don't know what it's like.
Speaker 4: Man, You want I go to o Wahoo. I'm leaving
on the twenty eight. Wow. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I stayed in a hotel, the Pink, The Pink Hotel.
Speaker 3: I've stayed there.
Speaker 4: Is that in the wahoo on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's on Waikiki. I don't like literally right on
the beach.
Speaker 4: I've never spent that much time in Waikiki.
Speaker 3: And it is pepto small pink.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, yeah.
Speaker 2: It's like right on the beach. How close is they?
Like two blocks away?
Speaker 1: But how close is it to the set of the
Lost show?
Speaker 2: A lot of that was on Kauai. I believe.
Speaker 4: Oh is that in Kawai?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I know they do.
Speaker 6: I mean I've seen like because I'm I go to
Pearl City. It's kind of close to Pearl Harbor, not
too far from the airport. But they say, oh Hawaii Fi.
Those been taped there, and there's.
Speaker 1: A station called the Pearl, the Pearl and.
Speaker 4: Lost Radio No one Lost. Get that you watched Lost.
Speaker 1: I haven't watched Lost in like fifteen I just remember
it so intensely because I was used.
Speaker 2: Podcast.
Speaker 4: I left it when I was watching when it was on.
It was great me too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, see, Carlin, you would like it.
Speaker 4: We might have to we have to talk, Carlin. I
mean we watched the you know, Housewives and crap.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it to be.
Speaker 3: If we do Lost it, it have to be. I'm
only allowed to watch the one episode that week. Can't
go forward.
Speaker 2: Exactly for you forty minutes watching an episode.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was no binge watching back.
Speaker 1: Then, waiting for that next season torture.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because like one of the things we would have
to talk about is what went viral that episode, And
we would have to ask you your thoughts, Carlin, what
do I mean, what does it all mean?
Speaker 3: All Right, we might have to we might have to
sit down and actually have a conversation about this.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's perfect her because I mean she doesn't
even know she could be spoiled. But I don't think
it is.
Speaker 3: I know there's a polar bear at one point in time,
and that's.
Speaker 1: Like episode one, that's like super early. That's not seriously
yeah too, Like it's really early in the in the series.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you get to see a polar bear biscuit at
one point.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah fish, yeah, shape like a fish fish biscuit.
Speaker 3: I'm getting passed by a fucking cyber truck like him off,
like him off them up. Oh no, sorry, it was
just a regular tesla.
Speaker 1: Those get to pass I only do the cyber truck.
I do the I do a Nazi salute at cyber trucks.
It defends everybody think that's weird.
Speaker 6: If I saw the license plate said in elon we trust.
Oh my god, yeah today.
Speaker 2: Ever a little you don't flip them off. You just
give him one of these hurts worse.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: She bumbs up or thumbs what are you doing?
Speaker 2: Thumbs down?
Speaker 1: He took his dick out, Carling, don't look.
Speaker 3: Jesus, well, I'm not looking. I have my All of
the people on the audio podcast that we're doing.
Speaker 2: It is not size though, So it's about right.
Speaker 3: We're talking about John Bana, small dick.
Speaker 2: I never claim to have a big one. I'm just
saying somebody who acts like he has a big one.
He sure doesn't.
Speaker 4: Wonder he's never married or anything or been serious with anyone.
Speaker 1: Well, he is the challenge. He can't sacrifice.
Speaker 3: Oh that's right. They had a whole about how he's
the challenge.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because sacrifice. He's sacrificed having a family for us.
If he can, you believe it, thank you, Johnny.
Speaker 6: We're gone, you know, having kids and all that just
please for me has flowers though, so so.
Speaker 2: Go have a family, Go have kids, go somewhere else,
don't ever come back.
Speaker 1: Well it is such a bizarre thing for him to
say that in front of people that are on the
challenge forming a family and ship.
Speaker 3: Growing a human being while sitting in front of hell.
Speaker 1: It's inches away bananas. You can see that. You can
be on the show hand of a family. It's just
like look around in a second.
Speaker 2: It's little lunches banana.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Levery is right there to le was on
the same like, I don't know what sort of bananas
he sucks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, bananas, that's just that's just who he is.
Speaker 2: Your sperm has literal inches to travel and that's it.
Speaker 4: He's not even a banana then, huh little yeah, little plantain.
Speaker 1: A little bit bananas, Mandy, What's what is hanging on
your wall behind you? Are you one of those witchy
people that hangs weird ship on your walls? What is
that thing?
Speaker 4: Those are.
Speaker 2: People?
Speaker 1: No? No, no, the thing that looks like plants.
Speaker 4: Over there?
Speaker 3: Are they just that thing?
Speaker 1: What's that thing?
Speaker 2: It's birds?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: No, no, went over one over not the artwork. It's
not a plant.
Speaker 2: What is that?
Speaker 1: That's the stringy thing?
Speaker 2: That's birds?
Speaker 1: Yeah, those are birds, like little glass birds.
Speaker 3: Oh, look at the little.
Speaker 1: Orgy. Yeah, all right, those are cute. Who folded those?
Speaker 4: Did those clips for Hawaii?
Speaker 1: And yeah, did you fold the orgony? Are you an
orgammy person?
Speaker 4: It was a gift.
Speaker 2: I thought it was like people on Patreon are like,
I'm glad I pay as people what's on the walls?
Speaker 1: I thought it was like drying flowers or something like
dry you know what I mean, like a drying something. No, No,
I thought you were hanging something. Weird.
Speaker 3: People, you might have plants or flowers on.
Speaker 1: Your wall, Carl and I can see you one of
these witchy people. By the way. Well, yeah, anybody that
like hangs a flower of like oh this like keeps
the house clean or whatever, those are witchy people.
Speaker 3: Some people just like to hang flowers and have plants too.
Speaker 1: That's fine. But if you have like a reason of
like oh it cleans the energy or then you're then
you're a witchy person. If you're just saying like I
just think it's pretty, then you're just a normal person.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Like when I get when I get a lay from
Hawaii or given a lay when I get to Waii,
I just take a picture and throw it away after
a couple of days.
Speaker 4: It's not like.
Speaker 1: You're saying like you don't hang you don't hang the lays. No,
I'd probably hang away. I get them rarely though, you know,
I've never I've ever been given a la I would
keep it forever. It'd be the only time it happens
to me.
Speaker 4: Put it in a book and smash it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do something. I'm not gonna make that joke.
Never mind, never mind.
Speaker 4: I guess I could choose different words.
Speaker 1: No, I like the words they call it press press,
not smash it smash smashing something very different it could be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, that's going off the rails, uh.
Speaker 1: Me from You're you're with a guy? Right, you have
a long term serious boyfriend? Yeah, that's right, Yes, nailed it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been. I go every two months, come back
every two months.
Speaker 3: Oh does he live there?
Speaker 4: He lives in Hawaii. He lives and I'm in California.
Speaker 1: So you live in California, he lives in Hawaii. You
go visit him?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I goes, say with something for two months at
a time.
Speaker 1: I got you. Do you split your time like like
Havesi's yeah, yeah, currently. How would you feel about a
relationship like that? Would you be able to do that
with what's his nuts, New Zealand.
Speaker 3: That'd be really really difficult to do on the other
side of the world.
Speaker 1: But let's say it was hypothetically possible. Could you do it?
Could you do that half a half time in New Zealand?
Speaker 3: I mean if we were Yeah, if it wasn't a
two day flight.
Speaker 4: Yeah no, yeah, five hour flight or is fine?
Speaker 3: Yeah, potentially for two months come back. I wouldn't be
able to do it for him.
Speaker 1: That guy sucks.
Speaker 3: No, I have no problem with I just it was
That's ultimately why we didn't end up working outs, because
neither of us were willing to do that for the
other person.
Speaker 1: Where'd you meet this guy?
Speaker 4: Meant a lot high school.
Speaker 1: Oh you've known it for a long time. Yeah, good
for you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we did a little bit my sophomore year he
was a senior.
Speaker 1: And then and then not for a long time, and
then he came back.
Speaker 6: We've just been friends for all this time and stuff.
And I mean he's he's my daughter's godfather, both of them.
Actually that was my husband. My husband picked him. I
picked the godmother, he picked the godfather, and that's who
he picked. So, yeah, he's been around forever.
Speaker 1: Interesting, Yeah, well, VI, could you do a halftime situation
like that, like a long like a long distance but
you're together half the time. This is not all that
different what you're doing.
Speaker 2: Kind of, but but ours is like on weekends rather.
Speaker 1: Than yeah, like two months straight and then two months off.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I because when I yeah, when I'm there, it's
pretty much twenty four to seven. You know, let's go
to the store or something, you know where he goes
to his brothers.
Speaker 2: Or feels like ago she gets to go to Hawaii.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I've only been there once and I loved it the
entire time I was there.
Speaker 4: It's beautiful and relax and people are they're cool.
Speaker 2: Did you ever have dog the Bonnie Hunter running around
while you're out there?
Speaker 3: No? Is he?
Speaker 4: Why? Still?
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think he's a Bownie hunting anymore.
Speaker 3: It was his ex wife who died.
Speaker 6: Oh okay, I remember hearing someone died. Yeah, I remember
when I went in two thousand and seven, and that's
when the show was big.
Speaker 1: Y bro.
Speaker 6: My daughter's to Hawaii in two thousand and seven because
they we took a trip.
Speaker 4: I know, time goes by fast.
Speaker 2: I went in like two thousand and three. It was
in Hawaii. It was gorgeous. We stayed, like I said,
we stayed in Waikiki su as the sun went down.
Hookers everywhere.
Speaker 1: I gotta go, I gotta go.
Speaker 2: I all but still like that.
Speaker 4: Though, Man, there's really hear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like really just out in the open.
Speaker 4: Huh for a lot of maho's.
Speaker 1: What nothing? What's the maho with you?
Speaker 4: I like TNS males that dress like women.
Speaker 3: Oh, lady boys, Yeah kind of yeah, them boys, lady
thy lady boys are an actual thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they call them maho's.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: We'd see lots of hookers and then we'd go back
to our hotel and me and my brother would sit
on the balcony because it was facing the main street
right there, so we would remember where the where the
hookers were from when we were walking around, and so
we would just sit there and watch them. And you'd
see dudes come up and talk to them, and then
they'd walk like down like a street, and then about
fifteen minutes later, the dude would come walking out by himself,
and then about twenty minutes after that, the lady would
come walking back.
Speaker 1: Yep. Good times.
Speaker 4: That's a good watching.
Speaker 2: Oh do you Uh. The thing nobody told me when
I went to Hawaii is to buy water shares because
there's so much coral this arounds the island that it
tears your feet up.
Speaker 4: I don't go too far into the water though I'm
scared of the ocean.
Speaker 2: I don't feel like I went went out all that
much far. Maybe up to my chest and that was
about it.
Speaker 1: That's okay if you're scared. If you're scared of the ocean,
you live in two of the worst places to live in.
This is true, Like you should be living where me
and Wolf lived.
Speaker 4: I like the part, Yeah, just go off a little
bit in the ocean. But I don't know. I think
I had an accident. I almost drowned when I was
like toddlers, so it scared me.
Speaker 2: I'll do it.
Speaker 4: I got pulled under toe and yeah like.
Speaker 3: That.
Speaker 4: It was scary. It was just a nightmare I was
having all the time. And then I found out it
really happened.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, wonder, maybe you were chosen like Mowana.
Speaker 4: No. Yeah, I live in California and go to Hawaii
and Hawaii right along the Pacific.
Speaker 1: But yeah, bad call, dude, bad call. If you're afrade
of the Ocean was born. Yeah, but you have.
Speaker 2: Your childhood fears like that, tim.
Speaker 1: Putting on makeup, women putting on makeup?
Speaker 2: What does your mom do to you?
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, but it's deep. This is a
deep trauma clearly.
Speaker 2: Or was it? Did your sister make you? Did she
like paint you?
Speaker 4: Dude?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's got to come from somewhere.
I must have been yelled at by somebody.
Speaker 2: I wonder if that's what it was. Your sister was
putting makeup on you, you were like traumatized.
Speaker 1: I don't think I think it's me walking in on
somebody else being traumatized that way.
Speaker 3: Seeing your dad put on makeup.
Speaker 1: Uh No, I don't think I have any fears like that.
Like I wasn't I got lost in the cornfield, but
that isn't That doesn't make me afraid of cornfields. I
don't know what you got one.
Speaker 2: My mom told me she found like she put me
down to take a nap or something when I was
like a baby, and she came in to check on me,
and apparently I had like one of those walking sticks
walking on me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I.
Speaker 2: Don't think that. Maybe where my fear of spiders comes
from something with like.
Speaker 1: A walking stick, very like the most harmless bug in
the night bug ever.
Speaker 2: All my brain want to noticed something that was walking
on me, and I think that's where the spider thing
came from.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you've got a legit fear of spiders.
Speaker 2: I can't stand them. Yeah, I mean I've I've tried
to channel it like Elvis. I see a spider, I'm
just like, yeah.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. You and Nanny have the
same fear. Because at the finale or at the at
the union, apparently a spider came down next to Nannie
and Nanny freaked out. Right as as TJ was saying
or somebody was saying that the women that were in
that cast for like really stellar, super awesome, I think
Nanny freaks out, what is happening, there's a spider.
Speaker 1: Well, if here's the bitch you see you see Turbo
doing the bitch thing. Oh he just threw out the
bitch cards.
Speaker 3: Oh the cards.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he just did it. And everybody's looking at it,
like Turbo, that was stupid. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I came home a couple of weeks ago and I
was getting stuff, putting stuff, you know, wherever, and I
think I was feeding Margo, and then I looked over
and there was a pretty big spider like hanging from
the ceiling, and I like freaked out. I was, And
then I was like, I need something to kill this with.
And then I remembered I have one of those like
tennis racket like bug zappers. I had to run to
the other room to get it, and then when I
came back, spider is completely gone. I have not stopped
thinking about it.
Speaker 1: Get a paper towel and just like grab it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I tell spiders when they're in my house, if
they're in my bedroom, I tell them they have until
I get back to the room to scuttle away or
they're gonna die.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm comfortable with the idea that they crawl into my
mouth while I'm sleeping. I'm fine. I'm fine with that.
Speaker 2: Gross. I use a sea path.
Speaker 1: So that's the worse, Mandy, you're a good listener. Yes,
that's the worst. If I had a phobia of something,
it'd be a bat. Yeah. They're so come from there's
I don't know, but they're so gross. Byron, the wings, Oh,
the wings are just like it's just like skin. It's
just like skin. It's just like loose skin.
Speaker 2: Is in the country. Do they dive bomb you or something.
Speaker 1: I mean they definitely did, But like they make everything
about them is gross. They make gross bat noises, they
look gross, they feel gross, like everything is disgusting. It's
just a disgusting creature. Guano gross, That shit's gross. It's
the gross of the poops. Yeah, it's yeah. Bats are
awful and hang upside down and they give you rabies.
They can turn you into a vampire. It's just it's
all bad.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 6: There's a place in the Redwoods up north where they
have a campground. There's bats in a tree. It's like
a tree that had been burned out, a big, huge
redwood tree. And we always go and to look at
the bats and see them up in the tree.
Speaker 1: Because cool to look at them. They're so ugly. They're
so ugly.
Speaker 2: Did you watch tip.
Speaker 3: We find out why?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 3: What did we find out? Why? You have that phobia? Comment?
Did you fall down a well when you were a child?
Speaker 1: No, I don't think it's I don't think it's like
a reasonable thing that's rooted anything. It's just I just
think they're gross. Everything about them is gross. It's the
grossest animal. No, I don't want to look at them
or have them touch me or anything. It's gross. Interesting, No,
no good. Bat putting on makeup is like my worst nightmare.
Speaker 3: Try Batman putting on his blackout makeup.
Speaker 1: Not your not your jam I'm not gonna watch.
Speaker 2: That anything like that. May do you have a phobia
of like bugs, animals?
Speaker 4: I mean spiders because when they bite me, I'm like alert,
I get really bad, itchy. I don't like spiders.
Speaker 2: No point.
Speaker 1: Who's the hottest person on the challenge? Mandy to you?
Speaker 4: Oh god, I've always been. I've always loved CT, but
that's because I've been around so long.
Speaker 3: This season though, CT was not looking good this season.
Speaker 1: Ut, yeah.
Speaker 4: He looked reunion he does.
Speaker 1: Some women like it.
Speaker 3: Some of them like a chubby your guy nods ago.
I didn't actually mind, but now was not getting.
Speaker 4: Right. I see he's working out a lot. I see
him on his on Facebook or whatever.
Speaker 1: So he's too he's too fat? Was he too fat
for you in the reunion? No, that's that's acceptable fat
too fat for you? During the season?
Speaker 4: Fix it?
Speaker 1: Whoa ouch?
Speaker 4: He's I don't know.
Speaker 1: If you're on a podcast. Loosen up, drink, drink and
tell us what you think about.
Speaker 4: I like, I definitely don't like Will. I don't know
what Nanny's so obsessed about. I guess so.
Speaker 3: But then his personality came out.
Speaker 1: Was objectively good looking. Yeah, Will like to look at
the guy. He's a good look at He's a specimen.
He's a good looking dude.
Speaker 3: I still think he's the.
Speaker 1: Oh hear me, is way hotter and for sure, like
Will is a red flag. Like the second you open
is he opens his mouth. It's like that guy fucking
sucks me. I think looks looks as good, but he's
just like he's too pure, he's too good of a man. Yeah, Carlyn, men,
do you think that too? You like a guy it's
a little more flawed.
Speaker 4: He's got Time's true.
Speaker 1: You can you can corrupt him?
Speaker 4: Yeah, probably not.
Speaker 3: We can corrupt him, but like his real personality, like
if if what he's showing us isn't like the true him.
It's like FESTI Season one and FESTI season two. FESTI
season one was this quiet, meek, like I'm an introvert,
I'm so meek and modest type of guy. And then
season two his real personality came out and everybody realized
what an ass he was.
Speaker 4: He was an ass on big brother too, so I
never liked him.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 4: Same with Josh.
Speaker 1: Well, if you give us it, give us one last
josh impersonation before we end our podcast forever.
Speaker 2: Well, no, the podcasting forever. I'm not I'm not emotional.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 3: If we come back for season forty two, do we
think Josh is going to be there?
Speaker 1: He said he's not because he's doing some other Hispanic show. Oh,
I don't Hispanic. That might I don't know.
Speaker 3: Oh that's right. You said that. You said that a
few weeks ago, didn't you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, hopefully, Uh he'll do those other shows and
never come back to the challenge.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fingers crossed. Guys, Well, anything else for the Union.
Speaker 2: Stopped? We stopped talking about that like an hour and
a half ago.
Speaker 1: It's true. Well what else we got, guys, We're now
we're in. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I still have an hour in sixteen minutes until I
get to my hotel.
Speaker 4: We're all the regular people.
Speaker 1: The regular people tune out for the Unions because I
don't think they watched them. I if not for this
being the last episode for a long time. We wouldn't
be doing this episode just for all you listeners. That's
why we're doing a show. We're not prepared.
Speaker 3: Over. Yeah, we're just kin't good enough.
Speaker 2: The funny thing is, uh, this was Tim's idea. I
was like, do we we don't really need to do this,
was like, no, we should do a callin show.
Speaker 1: We should. I thought we'd get three or four. I
thought we'd get a couple of people.
Speaker 2: But then I show up and Tim's like, oh, I
didn't take any notes, And I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, this is your idea, because I thought we'd get
calling people that would be like, hey, what about this
parlor idiot? And I'd be like, yeah, let's talk about that.
Speaker 4: But nope, nope, they're all no shows.
Speaker 2: We're not challenging my spectrum.
Speaker 4: Didn't even record it or I don't know why I
had to watch. I watched it live last night, but
the last one I had to watch on Tim's plex.
Speaker 1: That's that's what it's there for.
Speaker 4: But I don't know why it should have recorded it.
Speaker 3: But because even the even your spectrum doesn't see it
as a regular part of the show.
Speaker 4: That's what I was thinking.
Speaker 1: Oh, well, yeah, but Mikayla impressed me. I love Mikaylee
even more than I ever did. She's wonderful.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she stuck to her gains.
Speaker 1: Do you hear this cat?
Speaker 2: Yeah, this cat coming through time for a kiddie party.
Speaker 4: And I don't hate Ashley as much, quite as much.
Speaker 3: I agree with that. I actually came out of the
street and you like Ashley. Ashley has redeemed herself a
little bit. She's still crazy, but she at least owns up.
I mean she's always I kind of owned up, but
she really owns up to being crazy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and her being the problem with all her partners.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's the wholeheartedly owning it.
Speaker 4: She's like, I can't take praise. You gotta just tell me, hey,
bitch or whatever. I don't know what she said.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean she has, she's grown up a little bit,
and she actually willing Lily admits all of that because
she would not have done that a few years ago.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, I did love too. At the end, they
put together like a highlight reel of everybody's first appearances
on the show. Oh yeah, which for the challenge fan
of me that's a million years old. It's watched every season.
This was like, it was a really nice moment to
show like Derek back when he's in his early twenties,
like drunk off his ass, Bananas, he had eliminated his
first show CT was like coming into the real world
Paris House or whatever. So it was really that had
these flashbacks from like fifteen twenty years ago. Yeah, and
it really did like, uh yeah, I just kind of
showed the legacy that these people have. They've been playing
forever and Heisa has been on the show for over
twenty years now. And I did.
Speaker 3: Find it funny season that Bananas said that his that
getting kicked off of his first season on the first
episode humbled him humble.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The moment that those words came out of his mouth,
I just said, it was like everything else you're about
to say is alive, because what the fuck you have
never been humbled in your life, sir?
Speaker 1: I just think imagine if he hadn't been humbled that time.
Speaker 3: But they did. I also appreciated that they talked about
the parties that they used to have back in the day,
where like people would go off campus It's like on
Saturdays and go and meet people and bring them back
to the house and they like at the island, they
barely had any food, but they always had a full keg.
They were always like pantries full of alcohol.
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah I do like those old ones. And yeah,
we know from those of us that have done the
like the Challenge shows, we've seen some of these weird
backstage stories that I don't think they could show on
the real show. But yeah, they've had some they've had
some parties.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna end up like what was it. Oh, no,
it was the challenge. I was thinking Survivor, but Survivor never.
Speaker 4: Allowed no alcohol alcohol.
Speaker 2: I was thinking they were the ones that died the
bog to Blue, But that was the challenge.
Speaker 1: That was the challenge.
Speaker 3: Wait, they don't allow alcohol and Survivor, no.
Speaker 1: Everyward challenge is sometimes where you might get a beer
or two, Yeah, getting drunk.
Speaker 2: On Survivor, you don't get food. You have to earn
the food.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you're starting to death. Yeah, you're starving to death.
Speaker 2: Yeah if you lose a lot of weight on Survivor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, literally surviving, yes.
Speaker 1: Quite literally. Yes, they're digging worms out of the ground
and eating them for Stan on the show. Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 2: One of the very first challenges, you can earn a
bag of rice for your entire tribe. That pretty much
has to last you until either you win another reward
challenge or the entire season.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't even get a flint unless you win.
Speaker 1: They're right, such a good show.
Speaker 4: You don't even get fire.
Speaker 2: Things to learn we'll have to do if we do
season fifty, which I would say we're probably leaning towards
doing that, just because I.
Speaker 3: Think it'd be fun.
Speaker 2: We need to do something in February. It will be
fun with Carlin having no experience going in. But I
do feel like we should do a preview episode where
Tim can the rules, at least explain the rules in
a general sense of how we know them, but still
leave room for surprises.
Speaker 1: And the players these are all these are all returning
players or whatever. Almost never does returning player seasons. I
haven't done it for ten years or for ten seasons anyway,
So yes, it'd be really nice to get a good
returning player.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guy three I think three seasons. I haven't watched, but.
Speaker 1: You don't watch the finale yesterday?
Speaker 4: No, I haven't. I used to watch it with my
dad every Wednesday, go watch with my dad. And then
he passed in twenty three and so I haven't watched
like the last three seasons.
Speaker 2: That's why I started. I started watching them as a
man's mom watched it and they talked about it, and
she and his mom passed away. So I was like, well,
I'll start watching this so we can talk about it
and then you know, we all know how that turned out.
Speaker 1: Did you watch forty nine?
Speaker 2: Did I know? I stopped like a couple of seasons.
Speaker 1: Forty nine was really good.
Speaker 2: I was like, why am I still watching this? Stopped?
Speaker 4: I know it's it's still records on my TV, but yeah, it's.
Speaker 2: Like the Challenge, Why am I still watching this?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, History History still on?
Speaker 4: But yeah, it'd be great. If you guys did the
or Survivor, that'd be good.
Speaker 1: We'll see that one.
Speaker 4: If they're bringing back people, if.
Speaker 1: They fly the Challengers out, we're gonna have to talk
about what we're doing next season. Until then, I'm I'm
gonna assume they're not gonna do it. We'll see. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like for a pope, for a banner,
we need we need to challenge the banner. But then
like it looks like it has a duct tape over it.
That would be great written.
Speaker 3: Scff over the top.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do that and we can make that happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, sheld wrap it up. Tim's cat really
needs to go outside.
Speaker 1: He's so cute. He's such a good cat.
Speaker 4: He talks.
Speaker 2: Tim's interested in his cat.
Speaker 1: Look at this good cat. He's such a good kitty, Karl,
and I feel so bad for you. You can't see this cat.
He's so cute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's too bad you gave your cat away, Karl.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she has since been rehomed with a different blading.
He loves her. She's great this.
Speaker 2: Look at this, it's a Kidi party.
Speaker 1: Do you hear him? And listen to my boy?
Speaker 2: And he's looking for her cat now can participated.
Speaker 4: Sophia's cat, but she spends a lot of time here
with me too. She's a black cat.
Speaker 3: My dog is snoring in the backseat.
Speaker 1: My cat's the cutest. Look at this, it's not it's
not even close. Look how much cute of my cat is.
Speaker 3: So I think you guys need to post the pictures
of your cats to the face light or something like
that so that everyone who's listening to this audio podcast.
You can see what they're looking at the cats.
Speaker 2: This cat's dumb. This was my least favorite cat. It's
the only one I have left.
Speaker 1: No mind left mine left.
Speaker 2: Uh well, I guess we'll figure out what's happening, maybe.
Speaker 1: If we come back. Thanks you too, Thanks for coming, Mendy,
I see it.
Speaker 2: Now for coming. Don't sign off yet, uh and uh yeah,
hopefully we'll talk to all of you soon. Happy holidays.