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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Big Blue Insider. It's a Friday. We

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<v Speaker 1>wrap up the week heading into another Kentucky football Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Wildcats and the Ohio Bobcats tomorrow at twelve

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<v Speaker 1>forty five. Kickoff is at ten pregame at ten thirty

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<v Speaker 1>with Christy Thomas, Jeremy Jarmin, Logan Stenberg, than Tom Lee,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeppiicor and me with all the action Kentucky and Ohio's

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<v Speaker 1>the Cats go for their second win of the year,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a get right game. We'll hear from Tom

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<v Speaker 1>and Jeff a little bit later on an excerpt from

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<v Speaker 1>the Wildcat Whip. It's out there right now on social

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<v Speaker 1>media via my Facebook page and Tom's Facebook page as

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<v Speaker 1>well as I believe it's. Yeah, it's already up on

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter on the UK Sports Network site. So you want

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<v Speaker 1>to get the insights from Tom and Jeff and yours truly,

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<v Speaker 1>and you will hear on the local version on the

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook version, the fact that we're at the south of Wrigley,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll tell you more about that a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>later on when we play the excerpt from the Wildcat Whip.

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<v Speaker 1>Well else you gonna hear from Marxtoops coming up in

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<v Speaker 1>our next segment as he met with the media yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>and wrapped up the week's practice, his team getting ready

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<v Speaker 1>to take on another form of cat So you'll hear

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<v Speaker 1>it right here and see it on the SEC network.

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<v Speaker 1>Last Night's a big story, and really right now, the

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<v Speaker 1>big story. Even if you're not a baseball fan per se,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know what, you probably were back in the

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<v Speaker 1>day and baseball just kind of got away from everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>But and that's understandable. But what a story right now

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<v Speaker 1>in baseball about Shohio Tani. And it is very cool

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<v Speaker 1>when you see history right before your eyes. He became

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<v Speaker 1>the first player to join the fifty to fifty club

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<v Speaker 1>fifty home runs and fifty stolen bases. Did it last

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<v Speaker 1>night against the Miami Marlins, and he did it in style. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>did he ever do it in style with maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest single performance in a game ever. Three home runs

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<v Speaker 1>plus three more base sits, so a total of six

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<v Speaker 1>couple of doubles in a single miss missed the triple

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<v Speaker 1>for the cycle, you know, yawned, But he also drove

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<v Speaker 1>in ten runs, stole a couple of bases and what

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<v Speaker 1>was it a twenty to three, twenty to four wins

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<v Speaker 1>something like that, and not only do they win the game,

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<v Speaker 1>but they clinch a spot in the playoffs. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>been incredible keeping an eye on this. And of course

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<v Speaker 1>he plays on the West Coast, so it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>hard to watch him much unless you want to stay

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<v Speaker 1>up late. But an incredible performance. Last night. Joe Davis

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<v Speaker 1>had the TV call for Dodger Television and he did

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<v Speaker 1>it justice on home run number three, home run number

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<v Speaker 1>fifty on a one to two time.

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<v Speaker 2>Who is a Chime her?

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<v Speaker 3>Who a Charing Season show? He ti he starts the

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<v Speaker 3>Fifth Stay, Fifth Stay.

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<v Speaker 4>Tr and again that is Joe Davis on the Dodgers

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<v Speaker 4>TV and he did what good play by play guys do.

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<v Speaker 1>He shut up what we call layout and just let

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<v Speaker 1>the pictures take over. On radio, you gotta paint the

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<v Speaker 1>word picture. But here's a guy who had plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>camera angles and all kinds of great video shots of

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<v Speaker 1>show high hugging his players, hugging his coaches, and the

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<v Speaker 1>fans in Miami. This was in Miami. Now gave him

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<v Speaker 1>quite an ovation. So he comes out, of course and

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledges the fans. But Shohi Otani not only has he

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<v Speaker 1>proven to be one of and some say the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>player in the history of the game. I love the

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<v Speaker 1>debate because you cannot come up with a definitive answer

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<v Speaker 1>when you talk about stuff like this, simply because you

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<v Speaker 1>just can't argue generations. But it's fun to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>and think about the argument who's better Show Hi or

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<v Speaker 1>Babe Ruth because they were both two way players, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and Show I, of course lately hasn't been pitching, but

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<v Speaker 1>obviously Babe Bruce stopped pitching at a certain point. It

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<v Speaker 1>became the greatest offensive player in the history game up

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<v Speaker 1>until more modern times. But one of the more compelling

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<v Speaker 1>parts of this story to me, and one of the

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<v Speaker 1>funniest parts, is the cold takes from back when show

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<v Speaker 1>I first signed with the Dodgers, because so many people

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to get out ahead of that, People in my

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<v Speaker 1>line of work and you know, sound like experts and

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<v Speaker 1>talk about just how terrible the move. It was all

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<v Speaker 1>the money they pay him to bring him in and

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<v Speaker 1>all that when the Angels signed him, and then when

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<v Speaker 1>the Dodgers signed him away. Mike Francessa, who was such

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<v Speaker 1>a well known radio sports talk show host in New York,

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<v Speaker 1>his take simply was the Yankees are lucky they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get Otani right. A major league scout when Otani first

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<v Speaker 1>got here said he wouldn't be able to hit big

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<v Speaker 1>league pitching, and his quote was, He's basically like a

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<v Speaker 1>high school hitter. Yeah. Yeah. Keith Olberman, mocking the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that Otani was a two way player, tweeted, because that

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<v Speaker 1>Christian Bethencourt thing worked out so well, Otani will be

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<v Speaker 1>a pinch hitting pitcher by mid season. This is after

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<v Speaker 1>Richard Justice, who was a great baseball beat writer from

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<v Speaker 1>MLB dot com, had written at a lot of mlbgms he said,

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<v Speaker 1>think we could have more two way players, probably in

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<v Speaker 1>super utility role. So, of course, Olberman, being and mister

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<v Speaker 1>baseball expert man, brings up Christian Bethencourt, who was and

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<v Speaker 1>still is a mediocre player. He is a backup catcher

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<v Speaker 1>with the Cubs, and by the way, he should be

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<v Speaker 1>respected because his middle name is Gabriel. But his lifetime

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<v Speaker 1>average is like two thirty. I think this season in

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<v Speaker 1>a backup real he's hitting two four or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, you judge all two way players by Christian Bethencourt.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, but there were so many bad takes on this.

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<v Speaker 1>One person on a podcast back then simply said, I

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<v Speaker 1>think he is one of the most overrated players in

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<v Speaker 1>the history of professional sports in America. A guy named

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<v Speaker 1>John Schaefer said that, and not only is that a

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<v Speaker 1>horrible take when it comes to baseball, but all of

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<v Speaker 1>professional sports. But remember now, the biggest expert, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying this sarcastically, Bill James, the guy, according to The Simpsons,

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<v Speaker 1>who's made watching baseball as fun as doing your taxes.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, James breaks everything down to stats. And he

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<v Speaker 1>tweeted this. He said, and this is back in twenty nineteen, said,

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<v Speaker 1>remember how a year ago everybody was all excited about

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<v Speaker 1>Shohio Tani being the next Babe Ruth. That was fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course I'm adding the tone, but that's how it

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<v Speaker 1>was presented. Cold takes are tremendous. They're so hilarious and

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<v Speaker 1>they'll come back and haunt you. But that's the price

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<v Speaker 1>you pay of having to have or thinking you need,

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<v Speaker 1>an instant take. I've never been one of those people,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe maybe I'm not smart enough to have instant

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<v Speaker 1>takes like that. I recognize a good take when I

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<v Speaker 1>hear one, though, and this kind of falls in line

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<v Speaker 1>with the way I feel about Bryce Young being benched

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<v Speaker 1>in Carolina, And I don't follow that team enough to

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<v Speaker 1>know about how much is his fault, how much is

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<v Speaker 1>lean toward it being a horrible franchise run horribly, and

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<v Speaker 1>Bryce S Young is taking a majority of the blame.

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<v Speaker 1>He of course, was the number one draft pick last

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<v Speaker 1>year out of Alabama. He won everything, won the Heisman,

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<v Speaker 1>won everything, and was a guy who was a question

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<v Speaker 1>mark I thought going into the draft because of his size.

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<v Speaker 1>He's listed at five to ten, so you know he's

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<v Speaker 1>you know he didn't weigh two o five at least

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<v Speaker 1>when they did all the measuring. But he is surrounded

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<v Speaker 1>by mediocrity top to bottom on that roster, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>won two games in eighteen starts, and he took a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the blame. And Shannon Sharp on a podcast

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<v Speaker 1>was talking to Chad Ocho Cinco Chad Johnson, the former

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals outstanding and outspoken wide receiver, and Sharp you can

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<v Speaker 1>hear him reading the tail end of Bryce Young's comments

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<v Speaker 1>and he basically said you know I had an opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't make the most of it. I'm doing what's

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<v Speaker 1>best for the team. All that stuff, you know, taking

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<v Speaker 1>taking the hit as good leaders do, is do quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 1>good quarterbacks do. And then Chad Johnson jumps in with

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<v Speaker 1>because I have bleeped everything I could, but he is.

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<v Speaker 1>I think right on the money here. This is first

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<v Speaker 1>chan and Sharp and then Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson.

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<v Speaker 3>For the most part, every snap it hit my hand.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't do enough with it at the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the day, and I don't hit that shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 5>It's okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I know you're the quarterback.

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<v Speaker 5>You're the most important You're the most important player and

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<v Speaker 5>most important position on the field because you touched the

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<v Speaker 5>ball every play. But come on, man, you listen. You

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<v Speaker 5>have to say the right thing. Bryce Young is saying

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<v Speaker 5>all the right thing because he's in a position where

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<v Speaker 5>he has to. You went to a dumpter fires the

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<v Speaker 5>reason they were the team to pick and had the

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<v Speaker 5>first pick in the draft.

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<v Speaker 3>Anybody can see it.

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<v Speaker 5>Your family gonna tell you the truth, your friends are

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<v Speaker 5>gonna tell the truth.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm tell you the truth.

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<v Speaker 6>It ain't you.

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<v Speaker 3>Ain't nothing wrong with you. Some listen, Ojo, you know, listen, find.

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<v Speaker 5>Me somebody at the Old Testament, find me somebody at

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<v Speaker 5>the New Testament that can come play for the Panthers

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<v Speaker 5>and make a difference. Nobody, boy, Jesus himself will come

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<v Speaker 5>down here. And Sam was even waring, ain't nothing changing.

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<v Speaker 1>Unk is bad.

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<v Speaker 5>When Sam Donna was there, was there, they said it

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<v Speaker 5>was Sam donald fault. When Baker Mayfield was there, they

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<v Speaker 5>said it when Baker Mayfield's fault. Rich Young is there,

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<v Speaker 5>they said, it's Bright Young's fault. Sam Donald and Baker

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<v Speaker 5>Minfield are off to historic starts.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, he's not wrong, although historic is kind of hyperbole,

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<v Speaker 1>but both quarterbacks off the two and oh starts with

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<v Speaker 1>Baker Mayfield down in Tampa and Sam Donald in Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 1>which of course had lost Kirk Cousins. And they bring

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<v Speaker 1>in Sam Donald almost like a placeholder. They thought, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah, we'll use this guy until we can

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<v Speaker 1>get a better quarterback. At least that's what a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the fans thought. And now the Vikes are two

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<v Speaker 1>and oh. Nobody expected that. Nobody expected Baker Mayfield to

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<v Speaker 1>do what he did, especially after he washed out with

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<v Speaker 1>the Panthers and bounced around. But he caught new life

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<v Speaker 1>with the Rams. You might recall this, and after signing

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<v Speaker 1>early in the week with the Rams, he started a

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<v Speaker 1>game and played extremely well, and you skip ahead, he

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<v Speaker 1>ends up signing one hundred million dollar contract. This was

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<v Speaker 1>after he did okay with the Browns, but they got

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<v Speaker 1>and there and washed out, and now he's got a

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<v Speaker 1>new life in his contract. It depends on where you

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<v Speaker 1>are and what that team is doing, no question about that.

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<v Speaker 1>While we're on quarterbacks, last night, Aaron Rodgers and the Jets,

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<v Speaker 1>you might have seen this on Amazon Prime beat a

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<v Speaker 1>Why not in New York because this was the home

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<v Speaker 1>opener for the Jets, And remember what happened last year

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<v Speaker 1>well and good, that's fine, that's fun. Remember the Patriots

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<v Speaker 1>of that at an interesting sidebar out of that game

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<v Speaker 1>two here on six thirty WLAP Welcome back to the

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<v Speaker 1>here in the first hour, Dermani Dawson will join us.

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<v Speaker 1>The NFL Hall of Famer and former Wildcat offensive lineman

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<v Speaker 1>writer covers the Wildcats football and basketball. Before we hear

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<v Speaker 1>from Mark Stoops, reminder that last night the soccer team,

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<v Speaker 1>the women's soccer team played to a draw against Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>The Wildcats a rank number twenty going into the game.

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<v Speaker 1>They were eight to zero Florida. I guess I don't

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<v Speaker 1>they play not to lose. Well, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>Florida plays not to lose in women's soccer, but five

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<v Speaker 1>draws in nine games, including last night, was nothing. Nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky outshot Florida seven to two with just a single

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<v Speaker 1>shot on goal, and the Gators apparently have really good defense.

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<v Speaker 1>But Kentucky still undefeated this season. Club Blue with an

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<v Speaker 1>announcement Name, Image and Likeness partner of UK Athletics hosting

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<v Speaker 1>the reimagined A Blue White preseason event. They're calling it

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<v Speaker 1>presented by the Harrodsburg Tourism Commission that will be on Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>October eighteenth at Historic Memorial Coliseum. They're not presenting it

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<v Speaker 1>that way, with a capital H, kind of like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Historic Memorial Coliseum. Tickets on sale today exclusively through Ticketmaster

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<v Speaker 1>the event managed by Club Blue. That's why tickets are

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<v Speaker 1>preseason event coming up Friday, October eighteen, Kentucky, O, How

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<v Speaker 1>are you tomorrow? Mark Stoops met with the media one

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<v Speaker 1>last time yesterday to talk about his team, and it

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<v Speaker 1>obviously they're looking for improvement between weeks one and three

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<v Speaker 1>the USM game, the opener and the Georgia loss, and

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<v Speaker 1>he asked his team about what they saw when it

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<v Speaker 1>came to improvement, and he talked about the improvement he

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<v Speaker 7>I was proud of the growth, you know, because you know,

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<v Speaker 7>when you know, when you play the way we played

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<v Speaker 7>in Certain Williams and again you have to go back

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<v Speaker 7>and credit the team we played, you know, not taking

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<v Speaker 7>I think you know, I just asked them, asked our

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<v Speaker 7>And you know what what you know who's going to

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<v Speaker 7>and we've had a good week, so we have to

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<v Speaker 7>just go put it on the field and we have

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<v Speaker 7>to go play. I think the most important thing that

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<v Speaker 7>we can't ever lose sight of is just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>As we all know, the Ohio Bobcats are a good team,

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<v Speaker 1>ten wins in back to back seasons, but they're not

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<v Speaker 1>a quote unquote name brand. They're not an SEC team obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>So is this Kentucky team going to be focused enough

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<v Speaker 7>You know, hopefully we're staying in the mindset of doing

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<v Speaker 7>the right things to get better, you know, for to

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<v Speaker 7>be a better football player, a better team. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>it's important to win. I mean they ply they train

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<v Speaker 7>all year, you know, to to to compete to win,

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<v Speaker 7>so you know, but you know, the results will be

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<v Speaker 7>the results if we do everything we can, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>and work as hard as we can and have a

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<v Speaker 7>good plan and you know, play as hard as we

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<v Speaker 7>can and all those things, you know, So that's what

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<v Speaker 1>That's really all they can look for because if they

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<v Speaker 1>way they played against the Bulldogs. They'll come out mentally ready.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously they're physically ready. They have practiced well this week,

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<v Speaker 1>Stoop said. But it's all about focus. They were not

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<v Speaker 1>focused against South Carolina. They were laser focused against Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>They had a great game plan. Yes it was conservative,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's how you just got to stay close and again,

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<v Speaker 1>playing not to lose. People like to throw that around,

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<v Speaker 1>well against Georgia a team like that, if you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to pull off an upset, you play not to lose.

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<v Speaker 1>You play to keep it tight and then at the

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<v Speaker 1>end maybe you have a chance to take a shot.

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<v Speaker 1>And it didn't work out for the Wildcats last week,

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<v Speaker 1>but they should handle their business tomorrow. But it's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be as easy as a lot of people think.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe. We'll be on the air with it at

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<v Speaker 1>ten thirty am. Dermini Dawson will open our broadcast. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Moon Siders six thirty WLAP Welcome Back coming

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<v Speaker 1>Dermani Dawson. We'll open our broadcast tomorrow, and I had

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to interview him as well about the Wildcats.

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<v Speaker 1>He of course is the Pro Football Hall of Famer

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<v Speaker 1>Hall Conference performer at Kentucky at guard, he didn't move

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<v Speaker 1>then of course had a legendary literally a legendary career

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL, but also played in the Kentucky Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>game where the Wildcats beat the Bobcats for the very

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<v Speaker 1>first time. That was back in the mid eighties. So

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<v Speaker 1>we'll hear from DERMANI opening our broadcast tomorrow, but you'll

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<v Speaker 1>also hear from him coming up in our next segment

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<v Speaker 1>as he talks about Cats versus Cats. Shameless plug for

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<v Speaker 1>the Wildcat Whip As I mentioned earlier, it's out on

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<v Speaker 1>just Tom and Jeff and me opening the broadcast like

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<v Speaker 1>a day early. We have the whip around on game day,

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<v Speaker 1>which lasts about two and a half minutes, so we

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<v Speaker 1>meet at South of Wrigly on Southland Drive. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>slice of Chicago on Southland Drive. And so we get

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<v Speaker 1>together there to talk about Kentucky football, the past game

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<v Speaker 1>and the game coming up. And here's a little taste

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<v Speaker 1>from south of Wrigley on the Wildcat Whip. Guys, this

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<v Speaker 6>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>It is.

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<v Speaker 8>It's a fantastic couple of a guy or maybe a

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<v Speaker 8>from Chicago, but created this kind of Chicago themed place.

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<v Speaker 8>And so you get like, yeah, I've been to Wrigley Field.

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<v Speaker 8>You get like the sausage with the peppers and the onions,

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<v Speaker 8>well you can get that here. Or Chicago hot dogs,

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<v Speaker 1>You made a lot of trips working with the Reds

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<v Speaker 1>wrily how legit is this place? In your opinion?

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<v Speaker 9>This is just like a joint that you'd see in Wrigleyville.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean it's it's just like anything you see on

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<v Speaker 2>Just yeah, it reminds you of you.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, it's it's hot in the air, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>Did you when you were working games, they always feed

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<v Speaker 1>the media. Yeah, various and sundry ways. Is this what

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<v Speaker 1>they fed you at Wrigly? Did you have this option?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 9>They actually had more like dinner actually wasn't bad. They

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<v Speaker 2>Wriggly was one of the better spots.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll have to do the food review. Get into road.

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<v Speaker 9>Get the worst broadcast in all of baseball, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 9>But other than that, it was was great.

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<v Speaker 1>Let us get down to it. It's Kentucky and Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>You after that Georgia game. The biggest question will be

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<v Speaker 1>and Jeff, I'll start with you, since you claim to

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<v Speaker 1>have played at Kentucky. Although I did see the team

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<v Speaker 1>photo at Bill Ransdell's new spot, two fisted Williams hand

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<v Speaker 1>hand Deidra and that you're eighty fourteen pictures up there.

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<v Speaker 1>Pointed it out to my wife, said, look at number

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six there. It doesn't even look like him. I'll say,

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<v Speaker 1>well that was a while back.

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<v Speaker 9>Actually that's the eighty five team, because the eighty four

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<v Speaker 9>they will not let that picture out.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just like Bob Gibson place scrapped it, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>or or Larry Zaker was Larry Zonker, Jim kick.

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<v Speaker 9>we're number one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, So you will not let that out. You

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't air brush it back, so you could do it

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<v Speaker 1>now about there anyway, Jeff, how tough will the beef

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<v Speaker 1>for these guys? And has it been this week for

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<v Speaker 1>these guys? You gotta at least try to match that

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<v Speaker 1>intensity in motion, the focus that they surely had against Georgia.

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<v Speaker 9>I think the biggest thing it does is shows you

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<v Speaker 9>can play with anybody. I think that the South Carolina game,

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<v Speaker 9>they just kind of threw their helmets on the field

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<v Speaker 9>and said we're Kentucky, we're at home, We're gonna kick

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<v Speaker 2>And they didn't.

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<v Speaker 9>You have to bring it every week. It showed them

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<v Speaker 9>they can play with the best. I think this is

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<v Speaker 9>a you can always say, get well game, whatever you

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<v Speaker 9>want to call it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's good.

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<v Speaker 9>It's gonna be a tough game, but if they bring

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Pcorro, Tom Leach and you're truly at South of

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<v Speaker 1>Wrigley and can hear the entire Wildcat whip as I

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<v Speaker 1>said my Facebook page Tom Leach as well and on

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<v Speaker 1>the UK Sports Network Twitter app. Before I bring up

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<v Speaker 1>from Marshall head coach Charles Huff. They're playing Ohio State

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<v Speaker 1>and he, of course this team is completely out maned

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<v Speaker 1>a shameless plug trying to pull some all Half State

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<v Speaker 1>people through the portal via an nil deal, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get him to transfer to Marshall at the last minute.

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<v Speaker 1>This was pretty funny.

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<v Speaker 6>I'd love to have some of those guys from Ohio

423
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<v Speaker 6>State too, so if they want to transfer on down,

424
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<v Speaker 6>We've got a Tutor. Yeah, Tutor's biscuit nil all you

425
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<v Speaker 6>can eat. So if any of those guys that run

426
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<v Speaker 6>really really fast at Ohio State like Tutor's biscuits, I

427
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<v Speaker 6>promise you all you can eat all day if you

428
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<v Speaker 6>transfer here.

429
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<v Speaker 1>So but yeah, I'd be curious to hear if anybody

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<v Speaker 1>takes him up on that. But hey, good, good for you.

431
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<v Speaker 1>Kudos to you. Tampering, Sure it is, but in this

432
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<v Speaker 1>nil age, you gotta do what you can and shoot

433
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<v Speaker 1>your best shot. Charles Huff of Marshall making a literally

434
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<v Speaker 1>last minute plea for help from anybody on the Buckeyes

435
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<v Speaker 1>roster who would like to transfer to the Thundering Herd

436
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<v Speaker 1>up Now, Hall of Famer DERMANI Dawson, who will open

437
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<v Speaker 1>our broadcast tomorrow, talks about this year's Kentucky Wildcats. That's

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<v Speaker 1>next year on the Big Mowinsider six point thirty wlap

439
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<v Speaker 1>against the Bobcats, who came in here in four and

440
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<v Speaker 1>upset Rich Brooks's second the Kentucky team on homecoming night.

441
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<v Speaker 1>It was just a bad night all around, except for

442
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<v Speaker 1>if you're a Kentucky fan, except for the Ohio band,

443
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<v Speaker 1>which performed at halftime. They had one of those wacky

444
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<v Speaker 1>kinds of performing bands and they were outstanding. But the

445
00:24:30.039 --> 00:24:32.920
<v Speaker 1>game was terrible from the Kentucky side. They played in

446
00:24:33.000 --> 00:24:36.359
<v Speaker 1>throwback uniforms which we have never seen again. I would

447
00:24:36.400 --> 00:24:39.920
<v Speaker 1>think they burned them after that game. The one thing

448
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<v Speaker 1>to remember about that night is it underscored the fact

449
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<v Speaker 1>that Rich Brooks was still having some trouble getting some

450
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<v Speaker 1>of his veteran players to kind of come over and

451
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<v Speaker 1>give themselves over and buy in to what he was doing,

452
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<v Speaker 1>because the players had been shocked when Guy Morris left

453
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<v Speaker 1>and Brooks came in had a different way to doing things.

454
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<v Speaker 1>Not the guy was doing anything the wrong way. Of course,

455
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<v Speaker 1>he was successful seven wins the year that the second

456
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<v Speaker 1>season that he was the head coach at Kentucky, but

457
00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:12.759
<v Speaker 1>Brooks just had some bad actors on that team. Most

458
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<v Speaker 1>coaches have to deal with it one year. Brooks had

459
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<v Speaker 1>to deal with it for two seasons. But once they

460
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<v Speaker 1>all moved on, or at least a majority moved on,

461
00:25:20.880 --> 00:25:23.039
<v Speaker 1>he was able to get things going in the right direction.

462
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<v Speaker 1>But that night was right up there, I think with

463
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<v Speaker 1>that LSU loss down in Baton Rouge at forty seven

464
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<v Speaker 1>or forty nine to nothing, shell acking because this was

465
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<v Speaker 1>against an inferior team at home, OHIOU. But the LSU

466
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<v Speaker 1>game happened in six when things should have been going

467
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<v Speaker 1>a lot better, and ultimately they did, so those were

468
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<v Speaker 1>really there are two low points in the Rich Brooks era.

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<v Speaker 1>Those were the games, but we all know that it

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<v Speaker 1>ended on an uplift with rich Brooks, and that's why

471
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<v Speaker 1>he opened our broadcast against Georgia because his teams beat

472
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<v Speaker 1>Georgia a couple times. So Dermanti Dawson will get things

473
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<v Speaker 1>rolling tomorrow ten thirty when we sign on and again

474
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<v Speaker 1>just before Playboy play and I had a chance to

475
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<v Speaker 1>chat with Dermani when we were done recording the open

476
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<v Speaker 1>for tomorrow's game and ask him some questions about the Wildcats. Well,

477
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<v Speaker 1>what do you think about what you've seen so far?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I mean overall, you know, they they played

479
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<v Speaker 3>very well against Southern Miss. You know, had a few turnovers,

480
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<v Speaker 3>you know, and and you know it's I don't know,

481
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<v Speaker 3>it's just so far. I like what I see. You know,

482
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<v Speaker 3>if they hadn't been very consistent on offense, you know

483
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<v Speaker 3>the quarterback, you know, he's been struggling a little bit.

484
00:26:44.039 --> 00:26:45.960
<v Speaker 3>I know he's a great runner, but you know as

485
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<v Speaker 3>far as accuracy on passing, uh, it's it's been hit

486
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<v Speaker 3>or miss.

487
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<v Speaker 1>Would your agree he needs a little more a little

488
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<v Speaker 1>more time in the pocket.

489
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<v Speaker 3>Well yeah, yeah, maybe a little bit more time, you know.

490
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<v Speaker 3>So he can make his reads. But but you know,

491
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<v Speaker 3>he seems to have a pretty strong arm. And I

492
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<v Speaker 3>understand that he came from the University of Georgia as well.

493
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<v Speaker 3>Huh yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm hoping that, you know,

494
00:27:09.880 --> 00:27:13.119
<v Speaker 3>those guys are I hope that he gets settled and

495
00:27:13.160 --> 00:27:16.960
<v Speaker 3>the offensive coordinator, you know, tries to get him warmed

496
00:27:17.039 --> 00:27:20.119
<v Speaker 3>up first before you know, he tries to you know,

497
00:27:20.240 --> 00:27:22.279
<v Speaker 3>make the big passes, but he wants to make the

498
00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:26.359
<v Speaker 3>you know, he wants to go downfield. Plus he's got leggs,

499
00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:28.440
<v Speaker 3>he's he's he's got the feet, you know, to to

500
00:27:28.519 --> 00:27:33.680
<v Speaker 3>make plays. But he's just got to be more consistent.

501
00:27:35.119 --> 00:27:38.839
<v Speaker 1>They've had so much turnover and and churn on the

502
00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:43.559
<v Speaker 1>coaching staff, especially at at O coordinator and offensive line coach,

503
00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:47.279
<v Speaker 1>and you as well as anybody knows. Yeah, you know,

504
00:27:47.559 --> 00:27:51.119
<v Speaker 1>to build an offensive line where you've got five guys

505
00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:54.519
<v Speaker 1>plus the backups working as one, you know, you've really

506
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<v Speaker 1>got to have connuity, don't you.

507
00:27:56.240 --> 00:27:59.079
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, connuity is key, you know to offensive line play.

508
00:27:59.599 --> 00:28:02.559
<v Speaker 3>You know, that's that's the key to a success. But

509
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<v Speaker 3>then then and then again also you know, play calling

510
00:28:05.359 --> 00:28:09.480
<v Speaker 3>is going to be key as well, So you gotta

511
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<v Speaker 3>you know, play with the talent that you have. Uh,

512
00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:16.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, if they're better run blockers than past blockers,

513
00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:19.240
<v Speaker 3>you know, then you got to run the ball. But

514
00:28:19.400 --> 00:28:21.000
<v Speaker 3>then again you got to step up. You got to

515
00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:22.920
<v Speaker 3>pass the ball as well, and they have to be

516
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<v Speaker 3>able to protect the quarterback. You know. So it's twofold,

517
00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:30.359
<v Speaker 3>you know, but you know, hopefully they do much better

518
00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:30.880
<v Speaker 3>this game.

519
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<v Speaker 1>Did you prefer one over the other? Run block or

520
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<v Speaker 1>past block?

521
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<v Speaker 3>I enjoyed both. I enjoyed run blocking and pass blocking.

522
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<v Speaker 3>I didn't mind either. One.

523
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<v Speaker 1>Jeff fan Node used to tell us he liked run

524
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<v Speaker 1>blocking because it's harder to block when you're moving backwards. Yeah,

525
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<v Speaker 1>I can't understand.

526
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<v Speaker 3>Well, hey, hey, that's that's the true true statement, you know,

527
00:28:54.599 --> 00:28:59.200
<v Speaker 3>but that Jeff stated. But I mean I really enjoyed

528
00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:03.319
<v Speaker 3>pass blocking and run blocking. I didn't. I didn't prefer

529
00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:08.240
<v Speaker 3>either over the other, you know, but I enjoyed run

530
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<v Speaker 3>blocking and pass blocking.

531
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<v Speaker 1>This team blocked so well against Georgia, which is a

532
00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:17.319
<v Speaker 1>pretty fair team minus the sack yard? Is they they

533
00:29:17.480 --> 00:29:20.160
<v Speaker 1>rushed for more than two hundred yards and against struggle

534
00:29:20.200 --> 00:29:24.119
<v Speaker 1>to pass block? Is that something I don't know? You're

535
00:29:24.160 --> 00:29:26.079
<v Speaker 1>not there every day and you you know, you haven't

536
00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:30.519
<v Speaker 1>studied these guys. But if they can pass our run block,

537
00:29:31.839 --> 00:29:34.000
<v Speaker 1>is there hope for past blocking, do you think?

538
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think there's hope for pass blocking. Yeah. You know,

539
00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:40.200
<v Speaker 3>they did an excellent job, you'd a run blocking against Georgia,

540
00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:43.440
<v Speaker 3>but they did struggle a little bit and got pressure,

541
00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:46.319
<v Speaker 3>you know, from the outside more than the inside. But

542
00:29:46.920 --> 00:29:50.240
<v Speaker 3>they they got some some pretty good players on Georgia's team,

543
00:29:50.920 --> 00:29:54.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, some top prospects and you know, very good players.

544
00:29:55.079 --> 00:29:59.599
<v Speaker 3>But you know it's they did a great job against

545
00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:05.000
<v Speaker 3>running the ball, but you know, past past, past offense.

546
00:30:05.720 --> 00:30:10.160
<v Speaker 3>They struggled a little bit on the protection side. So yeah,

547
00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:13.160
<v Speaker 3>you just you just never know. Oh you hear my dogs?

548
00:30:13.519 --> 00:30:17.519
<v Speaker 1>I do? Yeah, okay, that's fine. Yeah, we enjoyed dogs.

549
00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:21.640
<v Speaker 1>How how has the SEC changed your Mindy? Clearly there

550
00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:27.319
<v Speaker 1>are more teams now. But since you played, uh.

551
00:30:27.079 --> 00:30:29.839
<v Speaker 3>You know, with the rule changes, you know, everything has

552
00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:35.079
<v Speaker 3>changed in the NFL, you know, collegiate football. All the

553
00:30:35.160 --> 00:30:37.599
<v Speaker 3>rule changes have made it kind of difficult for players

554
00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:41.400
<v Speaker 3>that really be physical. And I know it's for the

555
00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:44.599
<v Speaker 3>safety of the player because you really have to think

556
00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:46.920
<v Speaker 3>when you're on the field about you know, your next step.

557
00:30:47.240 --> 00:30:48.880
<v Speaker 3>Am I going to hit them this way? I'm going

558
00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:51.599
<v Speaker 3>to hit them that way? And I think it takes

559
00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:57.359
<v Speaker 3>away some of the physicality of the the game. But yeah,

560
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<v Speaker 3>I'm really not for sure how it's changed, you know,

561
00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:05.160
<v Speaker 3>since I played. I just know that the rule changes

562
00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:09.880
<v Speaker 3>had really kind of you know, made a big difference

563
00:31:09.960 --> 00:31:12.880
<v Speaker 3>in in the calls with the refs and everything else.

564
00:31:12.920 --> 00:31:15.599
<v Speaker 3>So it's kind of changed the game that way well.

565
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:19.240
<v Speaker 1>And the rules have been changed to encourage more passing,

566
00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:20.720
<v Speaker 1>both in a pro game and.

567
00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:25.160
<v Speaker 3>Game because you know, it's an entertainment sport. So they

568
00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:28.920
<v Speaker 3>wont high scoring games because that's what brings in the crowds.

569
00:31:28.960 --> 00:31:32.359
<v Speaker 3>You know, they wanted, they wanted, they want high scoring games.

570
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean back when I was in school, and

571
00:31:35.559 --> 00:31:37.359
<v Speaker 1>then when you came along, I mean a game that

572
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:40.960
<v Speaker 1>was seventeen fourteen or something like that, no one would

573
00:31:40.960 --> 00:31:43.920
<v Speaker 1>have said anything. No, they would have called that boring.

574
00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:46.400
<v Speaker 3>No, I know. You know, even when I was with

575
00:31:46.480 --> 00:31:49.119
<v Speaker 3>the Steelers in eighty eight, same thing. You know, we

576
00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:51.839
<v Speaker 3>ran the ball all the time. Yeah, I mean, you

577
00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:54.200
<v Speaker 3>mix it up, you know, pass and run, but you

578
00:31:54.200 --> 00:31:56.480
<v Speaker 3>know it was basically a run offense. That's how you

579
00:31:56.480 --> 00:31:57.799
<v Speaker 3>control the offense in the clock.

580
00:31:58.279 --> 00:32:05.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, well Kentucky, of course, now the expectations are

581
00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:07.240
<v Speaker 1>so much bigger. I know you don't live in Lexing,

582
00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:09.039
<v Speaker 1>but I know you get back and keep in touch.

583
00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:12.440
<v Speaker 1>But Kentucky came up back to back seven wins seasons

584
00:32:12.480 --> 00:32:14.519
<v Speaker 1>bowl games, and I know there are more balls now

585
00:32:14.519 --> 00:32:18.279
<v Speaker 1>than when you played. But people are getting restless here,

586
00:32:18.759 --> 00:32:21.200
<v Speaker 1>you know. And and when you were growing up and

587
00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:23.720
<v Speaker 1>back in the day, you know, six or seven wins

588
00:32:23.759 --> 00:32:27.720
<v Speaker 1>was something to celebrate. But that's all change now, hasn't it.

589
00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:29.680
<v Speaker 3>It has. Yeah, everybody wants to go to the bowl

590
00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:30.640
<v Speaker 3>game each and every year.

591
00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:32.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the big one.

592
00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:35.200
<v Speaker 3>But that's the name of the game now, Yeah, go

593
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:35.960
<v Speaker 3>to bowl games.

594
00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Do you like where college football is now? With

595
00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:43.400
<v Speaker 1>the playoff and the coaches that are making insane money

596
00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:45.799
<v Speaker 1>and the portal and the nil and all that stuff.

597
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:49.799
<v Speaker 3>It's well, you know, I mean the nil and all

598
00:32:49.839 --> 00:32:52.799
<v Speaker 3>that stuff. I mean, I really don't understand it to date,

599
00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:57.279
<v Speaker 3>the truth and the transport portal and you know, it's

600
00:32:57.359 --> 00:33:00.960
<v Speaker 3>just so many different things, you know, And it's tough

601
00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:03.480
<v Speaker 3>because if a player wants to go to another university,

602
00:33:03.720 --> 00:33:07.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, they're not penalized for it. You know, it

603
00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:10.920
<v Speaker 3>just can change the whole complexity of football itself and

604
00:33:11.079 --> 00:33:16.200
<v Speaker 3>at collegiate athletics. So yeah, I don't know if it's

605
00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:18.240
<v Speaker 3>good or bad. It's going to take some time to

606
00:33:18.559 --> 00:33:19.160
<v Speaker 3>determine that.

607
00:33:19.680 --> 00:33:22.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, there's freedom for the players, which they haven't had.

608
00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:27.079
<v Speaker 1>But coaches also talk about how kids who run into

609
00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:30.680
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of adversity they leave, you know, whereas

610
00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:34.799
<v Speaker 1>the college athletics is right for stories about kids who

611
00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:38.599
<v Speaker 1>were successful because they stuck it out. So you know

612
00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:39.599
<v Speaker 1>that's a tough call.

613
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<v Speaker 3>Well, hey, Dick, you know from my situation when I

614
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<v Speaker 3>was a UK you know, I didn't start until I

615
00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:46.119
<v Speaker 3>was a junior. I know, and if they had to

616
00:33:46.119 --> 00:33:49.279
<v Speaker 3>transfer transfer a portal, you know, I don't think I

617
00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:51.079
<v Speaker 3>would have went anywhere. I would have stayed right in

618
00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:54.079
<v Speaker 3>the UK because I was happy in UK. Yeah, but

619
00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:58.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, everybody wants instant gratification, you know, athletes, I

620
00:33:58.680 --> 00:34:02.680
<v Speaker 3>don't care what sport. Yeah, and uh, you know, if

621
00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:04.960
<v Speaker 3>they're disgruntled or they don't like a coach, they go

622
00:34:05.039 --> 00:34:07.519
<v Speaker 3>somewhere else. But you know the thing is that doesn't

623
00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:09.039
<v Speaker 3>teach you real life lessons.

624
00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:14.960
<v Speaker 1>No, it doesn't. Know, Although people always like to point out, well,

625
00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:18.079
<v Speaker 1>coaches can leave whenever, and I'm like, yeah, they're they're

626
00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:20.440
<v Speaker 1>they're paid professionals. But on the other hand, we always

627
00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:23.840
<v Speaker 1>hated Dermani these coaches who would recruit a whole class

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<v Speaker 1>of kids and then leave, you know, assuring mom and dad,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be there for your son. Next thing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they're packing their bags.

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's not good. Yeah, yeah, no.

633
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<v Speaker 1>That's so there's there's obviously still going to happen, but

634
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<v Speaker 1>now kids can move as well. A couple more minutes

635
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<v Speaker 1>with Dermani. Dawson, Uh, the former Kentucky Wackett. Although once

636
00:34:48.239 --> 00:34:51.760
<v Speaker 1>a while cat always a wildcat. What do you think

637
00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:55.199
<v Speaker 1>of what you've seen though? In the program? Mark Stoops

638
00:34:55.280 --> 00:34:56.159
<v Speaker 1>is built.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh hey, coach Steps has done a great job. Phenomenal job,

640
00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:02.199
<v Speaker 3>you know, because those guys have been winning and and

641
00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:07.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, just the program has really stepped up, you know, facilities, Uh,

642
00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:10.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, the recruits we're receiving, we're getting that, the recruiting.

643
00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:14.719
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's really it's really made our program. You

644
00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:16.719
<v Speaker 3>know that people talk about it now, you know, because

645
00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:20.480
<v Speaker 3>at one point, you know, we weren't considered a football school.

646
00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:23.880
<v Speaker 3>It was all basketball. Uh, you know, but now we're

647
00:35:23.880 --> 00:35:27.960
<v Speaker 3>considered a football school. So coach stupid Stups has done

648
00:35:27.960 --> 00:35:32.559
<v Speaker 3>a great job. You know, as far as bringing attention

649
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<v Speaker 3>to the University of Kentucky football program.

650
00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:39.280
<v Speaker 1>It's it's absolutely relevant now and the sec really is. Yeah,

651
00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:42.239
<v Speaker 1>it's not the automatic win that people circle on the

652
00:35:42.280 --> 00:35:48.079
<v Speaker 1>schedule like it was now and then not every year now. Yeah. Uh.

653
00:35:48.239 --> 00:35:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Can I assume you you keep up with your beloved Steelers?

654
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<v Speaker 3>Uh I do? Yeah, yeah, I do.

655
00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:57.239
<v Speaker 1>And uh, I got to think you're a Mike Common fan.

656
00:35:57.320 --> 00:35:58.599
<v Speaker 1>He seems like you're kind of guy.

657
00:35:59.239 --> 00:36:01.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Coach is a good guy. He is a great guy.

658
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<v Speaker 3>And I love him as a coach because he seems

659
00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:06.559
<v Speaker 3>to be a players coach. Yeah, you know, he doesn't.

660
00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:09.679
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't coach one style or he doesn't have one

661
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<v Speaker 3>personality when it comes to dealing with the players, you know,

662
00:36:12.519 --> 00:36:16.000
<v Speaker 3>because you got to have a multi personality person to

663
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<v Speaker 3>coach players. Now, you know, he's got to be able

664
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<v Speaker 3>to relate to everybody. And I just I just love

665
00:36:23.079 --> 00:36:23.840
<v Speaker 3>the way he coaches.

666
00:36:24.119 --> 00:36:27.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and a little bit of a quarterback controversy there.

667
00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:30.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's not always a good thing, but at

668
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<v Speaker 1>least you've got some guys to choose from, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's true. Yeah, I think Fields. You know, he

670
00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:39.760
<v Speaker 3>can he can beat you with his feet. I love

671
00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:42.800
<v Speaker 3>him because he can run. He reminds me of Cordial Stewart.

672
00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:46.599
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I played with Slash and he

673
00:36:47.079 --> 00:36:49.639
<v Speaker 3>reminds me of Cordial Stewart. A bunch.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Russell Wilson used to be able to beat you

675
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<v Speaker 1>with his feet. But yeah, yeah, and getting up there

676
00:36:56.480 --> 00:36:57.159
<v Speaker 1>in age though.

677
00:36:57.840 --> 00:36:59.360
<v Speaker 3>But you know, do you know if he's going to

678
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<v Speaker 3>be a controverte Have you heard anything about a controversy

679
00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:03.119
<v Speaker 3>when Wilson comes back?

680
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<v Speaker 1>Well, the last thing I saw was that Tomlins said

681
00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:10.400
<v Speaker 1>Justin Fields deserves to keep the job, okay, And then

682
00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:12.960
<v Speaker 1>there have been some lobbying from players and things like that.

683
00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:16.360
<v Speaker 1>So I guess, you know, so far, so good. I

684
00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:17.960
<v Speaker 1>guess they don't want to screw that up, right.

685
00:37:18.159 --> 00:37:20.599
<v Speaker 3>No, if you have the continuity and you have the chemistry,

686
00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:25.559
<v Speaker 3>you know that is most important. So I would suggest

687
00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:27.280
<v Speaker 3>they just keep Fields in there for right now.

688
00:37:27.559 --> 00:37:30.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, we are you gonna Are you gonna get

689
00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:31.679
<v Speaker 1>back for any games this year? Do you know?

690
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<v Speaker 3>You know I've had some surgery, so I've been in

691
00:37:34.679 --> 00:37:37.840
<v Speaker 3>recovery mode, and so I just got cleared to put

692
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<v Speaker 3>a shoe on. I had pins in my toes. I

693
00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:44.039
<v Speaker 3>had my toes too, my toes fused. So now and

694
00:37:44.039 --> 00:37:46.639
<v Speaker 3>I'm back, you know, with a shoe. I'm going to

695
00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:52.400
<v Speaker 3>be traveling in November, but I'm not for sure if

696
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:55.079
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to be coming home this year.

697
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<v Speaker 1>You still have family in the election, and do you

698
00:37:58.239 --> 00:37:58.920
<v Speaker 1>know I do you have?

699
00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:02.960
<v Speaker 3>My mom? And dad is great? Yeah, I hope there.

700
00:38:03.159 --> 00:38:06.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay, uh, I assume they're still Wildcat fans.

701
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:09.000
<v Speaker 3>They are always they.

702
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<v Speaker 1>Always in forever. Yes, your money, I sure appreciate it,

703
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<v Speaker 1>and we're looking forward to hearing you open our broadcast

704
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<v Speaker 1>on Saturday. Thank you so much.

705
00:38:18.800 --> 00:38:20.800
<v Speaker 3>Hey, hey, dig thanks for having me on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>That's DERMANI Dawson and coming up next. Ryan Black, the

707
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<v Speaker 1>Courier Journal beat writer who covers the Wildcats, joins us

708
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<v Speaker 1>right here in the garage on the Big Blue Sider

709
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<v Speaker 1>six point thirty w l a P. Welcome back to

710
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<v Speaker 1>the Big Blue Sider. I remember two of our program

711
00:39:03.559 --> 00:39:06.119
<v Speaker 1>as we wrap up the week the other day, Ryan Black,

712
00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:09.039
<v Speaker 1>who's the beat writer for the Courier Journal covering the Wildcats,

713
00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:11.360
<v Speaker 1>said to me, and more than one person said this,

714
00:39:11.440 --> 00:39:13.519
<v Speaker 1>when do I get to come to the garage? I said, hey,

715
00:39:13.519 --> 00:39:17.159
<v Speaker 1>you're welcome anytime. So he popped in yesterday. Here's our

716
00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:22.039
<v Speaker 1>conversation with Ryan, who came to Kentucky from East Lansting, Michigan,

717
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:24.039
<v Speaker 1>but he has worked and lived all over the place.

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00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Ryan Black, Welcome to the garage. It's a real place.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people always think tell me that I didn't think

720
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<v Speaker 1>it was really your garage, like they thought it was

721
00:39:32.679 --> 00:39:36.159
<v Speaker 1>my man cave or whatever. I mean, you see the car,

722
00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:39.159
<v Speaker 1>you see the washer dryer. It's a garage.

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<v Speaker 2>It is, you know, And I'll be honest, Dick. The

724
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<v Speaker 2>only reason I didn't maybe think it was a mirage

725
00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:46.199
<v Speaker 2>or whatever it was, it because i'd seen photos, and

726
00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:48.480
<v Speaker 2>I guess anyone could taken doctor photos these days. But

727
00:39:48.840 --> 00:39:51.039
<v Speaker 2>I had thought it existed. But now that I can

728
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<v Speaker 2>see it with my own eyes, I've touched things I can.

729
00:39:53.760 --> 00:39:55.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know that it is real.

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<v Speaker 1>My wife is the official photographer of the Big Blue Insider,

731
00:39:58.440 --> 00:40:00.719
<v Speaker 1>and so when she does take the pictures, you can

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<v Speaker 1>see behind me, we've got a little set of shelves

733
00:40:03.280 --> 00:40:05.519
<v Speaker 1>and I can hang up jerseys and all but yeah,

734
00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:07.360
<v Speaker 1>we dress it up a little bit, but it is

735
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<v Speaker 1>truly the garage and we appreciate you keep been on

736
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<v Speaker 1>a show many times. But before we dive into this

737
00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:15.719
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky football team and talk a little basketballer as well,

738
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<v Speaker 1>tell everybody where you grew up, where you're originally from,

739
00:40:18.960 --> 00:40:21.360
<v Speaker 1>and why you jumped into this crazy business.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, Dick, I grew up in a military family,

741
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<v Speaker 2>so I've moved around a lot. I mean I would

742
00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:27.920
<v Speaker 2>tell people that I'm from Georgia. That's where I graduated

743
00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:30.199
<v Speaker 2>high school, and I graduated from University of Georgia. But

744
00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:36.320
<v Speaker 2>I've lived in South Carolina, Pennsylvania, Japan, Virginia, Alabama, Kansas,

745
00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:38.119
<v Speaker 2>now Kentucky, and also Michigan.

746
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<v Speaker 1>What branch Navy Navy. No, yes, I have been to

747
00:40:42.280 --> 00:40:46.039
<v Speaker 1>all those places, including Japan. Awesome, which is fascinating, isn't it.

748
00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:48.159
<v Speaker 1>What stage your life for you? In Japan?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean I'm on enough to remember it. We

750
00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:51.960
<v Speaker 2>moved there when I was in the middle of first

751
00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:54.639
<v Speaker 2>grade and moved away when there was one month left

752
00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:57.000
<v Speaker 2>in third grade, so I came back to Georgia. In

753
00:40:57.000 --> 00:40:59.480
<v Speaker 2>the States, people are like, whoa, who is this moving

754
00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:01.960
<v Speaker 2>here with month left? In school and then so we

755
00:41:01.960 --> 00:41:03.800
<v Speaker 2>were there and that's where my that's where I graduate

756
00:41:03.880 --> 00:41:05.760
<v Speaker 2>high school, and that's where my family's originally from. So

757
00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:06.760
<v Speaker 2>that's why we moved back to that.

758
00:41:06.760 --> 00:41:08.559
<v Speaker 1>So do you have any yearning to go back to

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00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:10.159
<v Speaker 1>Have you been back? I have not.

760
00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:12.599
<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, No, I have so much yearning to go back, Dick,

761
00:41:12.679 --> 00:41:14.519
<v Speaker 2>mainly because okay, yes, you know, we went to the

762
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<v Speaker 2>Tokyo Tower, went to Tokyo Disneyland, did a few things,

763
00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:18.719
<v Speaker 2>but I was a kid, you know, I was out,

764
00:41:18.920 --> 00:41:20.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, jumping on the bullet trains and going here,

765
00:41:20.760 --> 00:41:22.639
<v Speaker 2>there and yonder. So yeah, it is one of my

766
00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:25.159
<v Speaker 2>definite bucket list things. I'd love to go to Osaka.

767
00:41:25.159 --> 00:41:27.559
<v Speaker 2>I'd love to go to Hakkaido. I mean they're just naming,

768
00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:29.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, named all the places you can think of.

769
00:41:29.360 --> 00:41:30.599
<v Speaker 2>I would love to go back.

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00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:35.480
<v Speaker 1>I've been twice Tokyo. The only other side trip I

771
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<v Speaker 1>made was Nico, which is where I don't know if

772
00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:41.880
<v Speaker 1>you remember this, the huge forest of cedars. Oh yeah,

773
00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:46.119
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's a national treasure because it's one of

774
00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:49.760
<v Speaker 1>the few things in Japan of its kind that wasn't

775
00:41:49.800 --> 00:41:52.920
<v Speaker 1>destroyed by the war or by the Great Fire of

776
00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:55.159
<v Speaker 1>nineteen twenty three, which I know you know of U, Yes,

777
00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:58.320
<v Speaker 1>if you've lived there, Yep, there was an earthquake in

778
00:41:58.440 --> 00:42:02.119
<v Speaker 1>nineteen twenty three for those of you, And because most

779
00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:05.000
<v Speaker 1>of those homes are made of wood and paper, and

780
00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:08.519
<v Speaker 1>the earthquake happened at lunch time when everybody was home

781
00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:13.000
<v Speaker 1>making lunch over open fires, and the whole city went

782
00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:16.239
<v Speaker 1>up in flames. And so anybody who spent any time

783
00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:18.800
<v Speaker 1>lived or visited Tokyo they've heard about.

784
00:42:18.719 --> 00:42:20.519
<v Speaker 2>Of course, so well, and Dick, I'm scared. So were

785
00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:21.400
<v Speaker 2>you there for for work?

786
00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:24.920
<v Speaker 1>The first time I went, I was there to work

787
00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:27.880
<v Speaker 1>a football game, believe it or not. Back in the day,

788
00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:30.199
<v Speaker 1>there used to be American football games there once a

789
00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:35.360
<v Speaker 1>year was which used to be the Mirage Bowl. Barage

790
00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:38.320
<v Speaker 1>was a brand of car, and you're a car guy,

791
00:42:38.320 --> 00:42:42.880
<v Speaker 1>I love this. When they released the new car lines

792
00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:46.480
<v Speaker 1>in the early eighties, late seventies, there were parties, parades,

793
00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:51.199
<v Speaker 1>marching bands, things like that, and the Japanese people love

794
00:42:51.360 --> 00:42:54.920
<v Speaker 1>American marching bands. And there was a gentleman who was

795
00:42:54.920 --> 00:42:57.400
<v Speaker 1>here in the States and saw I think it was

796
00:42:57.440 --> 00:43:01.920
<v Speaker 1>either the Grambling or the Southern U Marching band. You know,

797
00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:07.800
<v Speaker 1>very entertaining, and the guy said, you must come and

798
00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:12.159
<v Speaker 1>be in our parades plural on New car Week. Basically

799
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<v Speaker 1>when is it, Well it's in September October. Well we

800
00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:18.639
<v Speaker 1>have a football game that day. Well bring your team

801
00:43:19.480 --> 00:43:21.920
<v Speaker 1>and they said, well, of course we're playing against another team.

802
00:43:21.920 --> 00:43:25.800
<v Speaker 1>There's another school involved. Bring them to So they paid

803
00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:30.639
<v Speaker 1>to fly both teams, marching bands, cheerleaders, dance teams which

804
00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:35.320
<v Speaker 1>they adored, and they all performed multiple times that week.

805
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:38.119
<v Speaker 1>And so I think the year I went was the

806
00:43:38.199 --> 00:43:40.400
<v Speaker 1>third or fourth year. I was working for the old

807
00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:46.079
<v Speaker 1>Southwest Conference network and Houston played SMU at the old Stadium,

808
00:43:46.119 --> 00:43:48.840
<v Speaker 1>the Olympic Stadium in Tokyo where they had the sixty

809
00:43:48.840 --> 00:43:51.639
<v Speaker 1>four Olympics, and I was the producer engineer for the

810
00:43:51.679 --> 00:43:54.599
<v Speaker 1>game because they were too cheap to send two people,

811
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<v Speaker 1>so they send me because they knew I could do both. Yeah,

812
00:43:57.480 --> 00:43:58.920
<v Speaker 1>but it was a great experience. And then I went

813
00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:01.960
<v Speaker 1>back some years later back in ninety four with our

814
00:44:02.039 --> 00:44:04.639
<v Speaker 1>karate club went to China and about a half a

815
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<v Speaker 1>dozen of us in away home stopped in Japan for

816
00:44:06.760 --> 00:44:10.599
<v Speaker 1>three or four days. So yeah, we just it's it's fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and uh Marley telling me about those games was,

818
00:44:13.559 --> 00:44:15.440
<v Speaker 2>you know when I covered Kansas State, they had played

819
00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:17.920
<v Speaker 2>a game there against Nebraska. I'm trying remember what year

820
00:44:17.960 --> 00:44:18.599
<v Speaker 2>the other one that.

821
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<v Speaker 1>You didn't get to go? No, oh no, well prior

822
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<v Speaker 1>to you.

823
00:44:20.920 --> 00:44:23.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, this was way, this was way. This was early.

824
00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:25.519
<v Speaker 2>I think early Snyder got Bill Snyder there, I think

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<v Speaker 2>maybe ninety one one. And then I know because I

826
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<v Speaker 2>saw this great series that the Wisconsin State Journal did

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<v Speaker 2>last year. On the very first Rose Bowl that they

828
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<v Speaker 2>went to under Barry Alvarez, they played a game there.

829
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<v Speaker 2>I think that was maybe the very last co Colt Classic. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was called.

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<v Speaker 1>What's so great is the Japanese people They probably know

832
00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:46.360
<v Speaker 1>more about it now, but back then they just they

833
00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:48.840
<v Speaker 1>just were still learning the game. And so when you

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<v Speaker 1>got to the game, you were given you know, your

835
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:55.719
<v Speaker 1>ticket was a different one of two colors, red or blue.

836
00:44:56.280 --> 00:44:58.440
<v Speaker 1>If you're red, you're rooting for Houston. If you're blue,

837
00:44:58.440 --> 00:45:01.360
<v Speaker 1>you're rooting for SMU. Over there, you said, over here,

838
00:45:01.599 --> 00:45:05.599
<v Speaker 1>here's your pomp pom, And there were red pomp poms,

839
00:45:05.599 --> 00:45:08.559
<v Speaker 1>and then there were gold and I said gold, where's

840
00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:10.280
<v Speaker 1>the blue? And they said these are left over from

841
00:45:10.360 --> 00:45:14.760
<v Speaker 1>wake forest and the scoreboard would tell people when to cheer,

842
00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:19.239
<v Speaker 1>and one of the game organizers told me that they

843
00:45:19.320 --> 00:45:24.239
<v Speaker 1>love long passes, complete or incomplete. I'm like what they said,

844
00:45:24.880 --> 00:45:29.119
<v Speaker 1>because Japanese folks a little bit smaller than we are,

845
00:45:29.880 --> 00:45:32.519
<v Speaker 1>can't throw a football very well. So when you see

846
00:45:32.519 --> 00:45:35.400
<v Speaker 1>a big American throw a ball like that sixty yards

847
00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:37.079
<v Speaker 1>in the air, they were amazed.

848
00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:39.119
<v Speaker 2>So anytime, I know, we got to move on. But

849
00:45:39.400 --> 00:45:41.000
<v Speaker 2>who were on the teams like at that time in

850
00:45:41.039 --> 00:45:42.679
<v Speaker 2>terms who were the star play? I mean, I didn't

851
00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:43.519
<v Speaker 2>know if this was like when.

852
00:45:43.400 --> 00:45:46.679
<v Speaker 1>Lance mclanny was the quarterback for SMU. That was not

853
00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:49.559
<v Speaker 1>right after the pony I was gonna Yeah, for the

854
00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:51.480
<v Speaker 1>life of me, Houston wasn't very good. I can't remember.

855
00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:54.199
<v Speaker 2>And this was in nineteen eighty three.

856
00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:57.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, yeah, yeah, before the death penalty for SMU.

857
00:45:57.800 --> 00:46:01.719
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, uh so you've lived, yes, sir, And Georgia

858
00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:04.119
<v Speaker 1>is a great journalism school, yes, sir. Is that why

859
00:46:04.159 --> 00:46:07.280
<v Speaker 1>you went there or is that where you caught the bug? Well?

860
00:46:08.039 --> 00:46:09.760
<v Speaker 2>To me, the biggest reason I went was in state tuition.

861
00:46:10.320 --> 00:46:12.199
<v Speaker 2>But also, as you said, that mean it was like,

862
00:46:12.239 --> 00:46:14.199
<v Speaker 2>why would I go out of state when I knew

863
00:46:14.199 --> 00:46:16.719
<v Speaker 2>the history of the Georgia journalism program, you.

864
00:46:16.639 --> 00:46:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Know, so you already had that plan.

865
00:46:17.920 --> 00:46:20.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh I I've known that I wanted to go into

866
00:46:20.360 --> 00:46:24.320
<v Speaker 2>doing what I'm doing, Dick, since I was like eleven,

867
00:46:24.360 --> 00:46:26.840
<v Speaker 2>twelve years Wow here and all I've ever this is

868
00:46:26.880 --> 00:46:29.159
<v Speaker 2>all I've ever done, you know, So it was pretty

869
00:46:29.239 --> 00:46:31.480
<v Speaker 2>and like so yeah, it just in Athens is only

870
00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:34.000
<v Speaker 2>about forty miles from where my parents live and where

871
00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:35.559
<v Speaker 2>I graduate high school. So it was just it was

872
00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:38.079
<v Speaker 2>a very not to say there are not other phenomenal

873
00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:40.239
<v Speaker 2>journalism school across the country, because there definitely were, But

874
00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:41.800
<v Speaker 2>it was an easy choice for me, just like you said,

875
00:46:41.880 --> 00:46:43.920
<v Speaker 2>knowing the history and then in state tuition made it

876
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:45.119
<v Speaker 2>made it pretty well.

877
00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:47.800
<v Speaker 1>A long time colleague, Sam Dick, who retired a few

878
00:46:47.880 --> 00:46:52.199
<v Speaker 1>years ago as the lead anchor for wk YT Georgia

879
00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:55.400
<v Speaker 1>grat you know, and uh, same as you just you know,

880
00:46:55.800 --> 00:46:56.679
<v Speaker 1>love being there. Well.

881
00:46:56.719 --> 00:46:58.400
<v Speaker 2>And that's the funny thing is that, you know, Georgia

882
00:46:58.440 --> 00:47:03.280
<v Speaker 2>definitely has quite a distinguished writers, including myself joking there,

883
00:47:03.360 --> 00:47:05.280
<v Speaker 2>but really they're more known for television because there's a

884
00:47:05.320 --> 00:47:07.880
<v Speaker 2>reason they you know, the peabodies are handed out by

885
00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:09.199
<v Speaker 2>University of Georgia.

886
00:47:09.280 --> 00:47:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and the stadium is right next to ye that

887
00:47:11.960 --> 00:47:14.719
<v Speaker 1>building where Big Anta and all that. In the early

888
00:47:14.840 --> 00:47:18.199
<v Speaker 1>days of our wireless technology and the radio, we used

889
00:47:18.199 --> 00:47:22.119
<v Speaker 1>to have interference from that building every once in a

890
00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:26.039
<v Speaker 1>while on game day. Having lived in all those places,

891
00:47:26.039 --> 00:47:28.599
<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure you grew up an avid reader of sports

892
00:47:28.639 --> 00:47:31.039
<v Speaker 1>and all this other stuff. Yes, sir, now you're covering

893
00:47:31.239 --> 00:47:35.920
<v Speaker 1>UK obviously football now, but basketball. I mean I've I've

894
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:37.599
<v Speaker 1>talked to a lot of guys who have moved here

895
00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:41.679
<v Speaker 1>and covered Kentucky basketball and learned so much about it,

896
00:47:41.719 --> 00:47:43.320
<v Speaker 1>and they get swept into it. What's it been like

897
00:47:43.400 --> 00:47:43.719
<v Speaker 1>for you?

898
00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:46.599
<v Speaker 2>What you know, Dick? That was probably the biggest reason

899
00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:49.519
<v Speaker 2>that I took this job because I was previously covering

900
00:47:49.719 --> 00:47:51.800
<v Speaker 2>I was kind of like a sports enterprise feature reporter

901
00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:54.719
<v Speaker 2>for the Lansing State Journal up in Lansing, Michigan. And

902
00:47:54.760 --> 00:47:57.599
<v Speaker 2>when the Curve Journal approached me about covering Kentucky, I mean,

903
00:47:57.639 --> 00:47:59.719
<v Speaker 2>it's like, how can you Again, that's like someone approach

904
00:47:59.719 --> 00:48:01.880
<v Speaker 2>you to cover or the Yankees, or the Cowboys or

905
00:48:01.960 --> 00:48:04.960
<v Speaker 2>or Notre Dame whoever you want. Means like Kentucky. And again,

906
00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:07.360
<v Speaker 2>not that the football program has not become a very

907
00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:10.280
<v Speaker 2>consistent winner under March suits. But definitely basketball is what

908
00:48:10.760 --> 00:48:12.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, this program is known for. And so when

909
00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:14.679
<v Speaker 2>you you know, when you know that you're gonna have

910
00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:16.960
<v Speaker 2>a chance to cover that and and to see kind of,

911
00:48:17.360 --> 00:48:19.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, can this program get to back to where

912
00:48:19.159 --> 00:48:20.880
<v Speaker 2>they want it to be after you know, some some

913
00:48:20.880 --> 00:48:23.119
<v Speaker 2>some rough kind of exits and instead of a tournament

914
00:48:23.159 --> 00:48:25.400
<v Speaker 2>in recent years, it was just too good an opportunity

915
00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:27.280
<v Speaker 2>to turn down. It's been it's been great. And you know,

916
00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:29.400
<v Speaker 2>and Dick, I think towas before, but when I got

917
00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:31.880
<v Speaker 2>to watch That's that great series that the SEC did

918
00:48:31.880 --> 00:48:34.360
<v Speaker 2>on the history of basketball and the conference and seeing

919
00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:36.360
<v Speaker 2>you on there, I mean that was that was great.

920
00:48:36.760 --> 00:48:38.679
<v Speaker 2>That was great and I and I loved I mean,

921
00:48:38.719 --> 00:48:41.960
<v Speaker 2>I thought you gave such great insight, and especially about

922
00:48:41.960 --> 00:48:43.559
<v Speaker 2>the rough stuff, you know when they talk about adel

923
00:48:43.559 --> 00:48:45.320
<v Speaker 2>Frupp and and just like oh, you know, was he

924
00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:46.880
<v Speaker 2>was he a racist? Or what he could he have

925
00:48:46.920 --> 00:48:48.760
<v Speaker 2>done more? And this that and the other. And I

926
00:48:48.760 --> 00:48:51.239
<v Speaker 2>mean it's like I think any of those discussions, Dick,

927
00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:55.039
<v Speaker 2>is it's so easy to talk now, you know, years

928
00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:57.039
<v Speaker 2>and years at but it's like that's it's it's It's

929
00:48:57.079 --> 00:49:00.000
<v Speaker 2>always easy to nitpick decades after the fact, but you know,

930
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:01.719
<v Speaker 2>you weren't living in that time and things, you know,

931
00:49:01.800 --> 00:49:03.599
<v Speaker 2>things were different, oh exactly.

932
00:49:03.719 --> 00:49:07.000
<v Speaker 1>And you know I was born towards the tail end

933
00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:10.480
<v Speaker 1>of that time. But I do recall, you know, as

934
00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:13.079
<v Speaker 1>I said, growing up, the big kids in the schoolyard

935
00:49:13.519 --> 00:49:16.320
<v Speaker 1>were the ones who educated me on what I thought

936
00:49:16.400 --> 00:49:19.360
<v Speaker 1>was what here in UK turned out for the most

937
00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:21.920
<v Speaker 1>part wasn't true. But that's a topic for another night.

938
00:49:22.119 --> 00:49:24.159
<v Speaker 1>We're talking to Ryan Black at a Courier Journal. We'll

939
00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:27.280
<v Speaker 1>come back and talk Kentucky football with Ryan. He covers

940
00:49:27.280 --> 00:49:29.360
<v Speaker 1>the beat for the CJ here on the Big Moe

941
00:49:29.360 --> 00:49:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Sider six thirtys Welcome back. We're talking here in the

942
00:49:31.880 --> 00:49:35.119
<v Speaker 1>garage liven in person on tape with Ryan Black at

943
00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:37.480
<v Speaker 1>a Courier Journal, who, of course covers the football and

944
00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:43.239
<v Speaker 1>basketball Wildcats. Ohio, you comes up Saturday afternoon. Be honest, now,

945
00:49:43.320 --> 00:49:44.920
<v Speaker 1>I got to think you were like the rest of

946
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:47.800
<v Speaker 1>us going into that Georgia game. You wondered, was the

947
00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:50.880
<v Speaker 1>twenty points spread too small based on what we saw

948
00:49:51.199 --> 00:49:54.760
<v Speaker 1>from South Carolina? Or what did your folks in Georgia

949
00:49:54.800 --> 00:49:56.000
<v Speaker 1>told you? What did you expect?

950
00:49:56.159 --> 00:49:58.719
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, Dick, I believe my prediction for the

951
00:49:58.719 --> 00:50:01.639
<v Speaker 2>game score wise actually was thirty seven to seventeen. And

952
00:50:01.760 --> 00:50:03.960
<v Speaker 2>I know at least a few people are like, well, Ryan,

953
00:50:04.280 --> 00:50:06.559
<v Speaker 2>we think that. Then they talk about people I know

954
00:50:06.599 --> 00:50:09.039
<v Speaker 2>from the Georgia beat they definitely thought Kentucky would cover,

955
00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:11.280
<v Speaker 2>mainly because of just like, go look at these scores

956
00:50:11.320 --> 00:50:14.800
<v Speaker 2>here in Lexington over the years. Is yes, Georgia's won

957
00:50:14.880 --> 00:50:18.079
<v Speaker 2>so many games in a row, but Kentucky more often

958
00:50:18.079 --> 00:50:20.559
<v Speaker 2>than not plays them very very very very close here

959
00:50:20.599 --> 00:50:23.880
<v Speaker 2>in Lexington. The other thing is too, I just kind

960
00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:25.760
<v Speaker 2>of thought, you know, hey, the Kentucky had such a

961
00:50:25.800 --> 00:50:28.199
<v Speaker 2>bad game the week before against South Carolina. They're gonna

962
00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:30.519
<v Speaker 2>get up for this. They're gonna make it as competitive

963
00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:32.920
<v Speaker 2>as you would think. Now. Granted, I don't think anyone

964
00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:35.559
<v Speaker 2>maybe could have foreseen what we saw with being so

965
00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:38.280
<v Speaker 2>close to upsetting Georgia, but I think my predictive of

966
00:50:38.320 --> 00:50:39.880
<v Speaker 2>the game was thirty seven to seventeen. And I just

967
00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:42.280
<v Speaker 2>know people are like, well, Ryan, we can see them covering,

968
00:50:42.320 --> 00:50:45.599
<v Speaker 2>but man, scoring seventeen points on this Georgia defense, unless

969
00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:47.880
<v Speaker 2>you get a pick six or a you know, a

970
00:50:47.920 --> 00:50:50.480
<v Speaker 2>game changing kind of a special team's play which can

971
00:50:50.519 --> 00:50:54.639
<v Speaker 2>touch exactly. It just seems unlikely given how well, because

972
00:50:54.639 --> 00:50:57.119
<v Speaker 2>again Georgia still has not given up a touchdown this year.

973
00:50:57.800 --> 00:50:58.480
<v Speaker 1>It's amazing.

974
00:50:58.760 --> 00:51:00.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, they're one of two teams in the country.

975
00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:02.079
<v Speaker 2>It has nothing to you know that one. Who is

976
00:51:02.119 --> 00:51:04.360
<v Speaker 2>it Ole Miss? Now granted Old Miss is not played,

977
00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:06.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, and it's not played a conference game yet,

978
00:51:06.599 --> 00:51:09.000
<v Speaker 2>it has not played what George has played yet. But

979
00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:10.480
<v Speaker 2>they're the only other team yet to give up a

980
00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:11.599
<v Speaker 2>touchdown in the FBI.

981
00:51:11.719 --> 00:51:15.039
<v Speaker 1>So is that game unfolded? What was going through your mind?

982
00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:18.039
<v Speaker 1>Because the way it unfolded, I know you didn't write

983
00:51:18.039 --> 00:51:22.440
<v Speaker 1>your lead at halftime. No, No, that was incredible.

984
00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:24.440
<v Speaker 2>Well I think you know, Dick, if put this way,

985
00:51:24.480 --> 00:51:27.800
<v Speaker 2>the longer that Kentucky led and at least stuck around,

986
00:51:28.159 --> 00:51:31.440
<v Speaker 2>the more you kind of made yourself think, hey, they've

987
00:51:31.480 --> 00:51:33.920
<v Speaker 2>they've got a chance. Because again I think with anything else,

988
00:51:34.280 --> 00:51:37.599
<v Speaker 2>the longer you let an underdog linger, especially at home,

989
00:51:38.039 --> 00:51:40.360
<v Speaker 2>that that's when things get really tense because all the

990
00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:42.880
<v Speaker 2>pressure's on you is the favorite Kentucky's expected to lose.

991
00:51:42.880 --> 00:51:44.840
<v Speaker 2>Dof they lose, they lose, but all the pressures on

992
00:51:44.880 --> 00:51:47.360
<v Speaker 2>you as Georgia the number one team in the country.

993
00:51:47.360 --> 00:51:51.000
<v Speaker 2>You've won fourteen games in a rogue's Kentucky forty one straight,

994
00:51:51.079 --> 00:51:53.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, regular season games on and on on. All

995
00:51:53.480 --> 00:51:55.880
<v Speaker 2>the pressure was on Georgia, and so like I certainly

996
00:51:55.920 --> 00:51:59.559
<v Speaker 2>was thinking, you know, heck, George is gonna have to

997
00:51:59.559 --> 00:52:01.599
<v Speaker 2>get something going to even win this game. And you

998
00:52:01.599 --> 00:52:03.960
<v Speaker 2>know that they found right after halftime. But man, what

999
00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:06.159
<v Speaker 2>a what a value and effort by Kentucky.

1000
00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Well to me, at halftime, it seemed clear that the

1001
00:52:09.880 --> 00:52:12.159
<v Speaker 1>Georgia coaching staff said we got to put the ball

1002
00:52:12.199 --> 00:52:15.280
<v Speaker 1>in Carson Beck's hands. And I thought he showed. And

1003
00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:17.320
<v Speaker 1>you know people try to damn him with the words

1004
00:52:17.360 --> 00:52:20.559
<v Speaker 1>game manager, go right ahead. That was a perfect example,

1005
00:52:20.679 --> 00:52:21.000
<v Speaker 1>wasn't it.

1006
00:52:21.079 --> 00:52:22.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? No, And I think you know, I've cited this

1007
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:25.239
<v Speaker 2>stat quite a few times Dick since since that game.

1008
00:52:25.559 --> 00:52:28.239
<v Speaker 2>But in terms of he started seventeen games now, you know,

1009
00:52:28.280 --> 00:52:30.199
<v Speaker 2>dating back to when he won the job last season

1010
00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:33.000
<v Speaker 2>at Jordan, that's his worst completion percentage in any kid

1011
00:52:33.079 --> 00:52:35.719
<v Speaker 2>sixty two point five percent. So that's the worst performance

1012
00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:38.519
<v Speaker 2>he's had is Georgia starting quarterback. And I know, I say,

1013
00:52:38.559 --> 00:52:40.599
<v Speaker 2>whatever you want, Dick. Moral victories and that and the

1014
00:52:40.639 --> 00:52:43.119
<v Speaker 2>other that there's something that Kentucky can take from that,

1015
00:52:43.679 --> 00:52:44.880
<v Speaker 2>you know. Now, of course, they just have to make

1016
00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:47.039
<v Speaker 2>sure they don't maybe start looking ahead to Ole Miss

1017
00:52:47.039 --> 00:52:48.159
<v Speaker 2>and take this Ohio club.

1018
00:52:48.199 --> 00:52:50.719
<v Speaker 1>Seriously, I don't think you take any joy or happiness

1019
00:52:50.800 --> 00:52:54.119
<v Speaker 1>away from it, but as a team, perhaps as a

1020
00:52:54.159 --> 00:52:58.559
<v Speaker 1>coaching staff, a fan base, uh maybe even media people

1021
00:52:58.679 --> 00:53:00.760
<v Speaker 1>because I was wondering what's it going to be like

1022
00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:03.719
<v Speaker 1>covering this team this year? I think you take relief

1023
00:53:04.119 --> 00:53:09.440
<v Speaker 1>away because after the South Carolina game, again, man, you know,

1024
00:53:09.639 --> 00:53:11.199
<v Speaker 1>is this gonna be one of those years? And I've

1025
00:53:11.199 --> 00:53:14.960
<v Speaker 1>covered a few of them where every game is like

1026
00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:18.239
<v Speaker 1>trudging uphill in army boots. I mean, and now there's

1027
00:53:18.400 --> 00:53:21.039
<v Speaker 1>reason to believe they can put some more wins together.

1028
00:53:21.159 --> 00:53:23.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I mean, Dick, I think it was the talk

1029
00:53:23.119 --> 00:53:25.000
<v Speaker 2>of the beat after the South Carolina game is like, okay,

1030
00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:27.159
<v Speaker 2>how does this team get to six wins?

1031
00:53:27.280 --> 00:53:27.599
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

1032
00:53:28.039 --> 00:53:31.079
<v Speaker 2>And now it's like okay, well now, because it's just

1033
00:53:31.119 --> 00:53:33.360
<v Speaker 2>like the pendulum swinging back and forth, right, is that

1034
00:53:33.400 --> 00:53:35.599
<v Speaker 2>now it's like, okay, well that they should beat Ohio.

1035
00:53:35.639 --> 00:53:38.719
<v Speaker 2>They definitely will beat Murray State, all respect to Mercy,

1036
00:53:38.760 --> 00:53:41.239
<v Speaker 2>but now it's like, okay, I do see definitely Bandy,

1037
00:53:41.960 --> 00:53:45.239
<v Speaker 2>likely Florida as well. And then I'm still on the record,

1038
00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:47.320
<v Speaker 2>I think they'll beat Auburn personally.

1039
00:53:46.920 --> 00:53:49.840
<v Speaker 1>Auburn struts so but then again, Vandy jumped up and

1040
00:53:49.840 --> 00:53:52.400
<v Speaker 1>then won a game and its opener that nobody expected.

1041
00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:55.400
<v Speaker 1>But your colleague Mark's story when the Herald Leader the

1042
00:53:55.440 --> 00:53:58.199
<v Speaker 1>other night, he was saying he was wondering, can they

1043
00:53:58.280 --> 00:54:01.000
<v Speaker 1>keep that bull streak alive? That's a big deal, that

1044
00:54:01.079 --> 00:54:03.519
<v Speaker 1>bull streak, especially for those of us who've been here

1045
00:54:03.559 --> 00:54:06.280
<v Speaker 1>for a while who never thought we'd see something like that.

1046
00:54:06.599 --> 00:54:10.039
<v Speaker 1>So now it's much more plausible, isn't it.

1047
00:54:10.039 --> 00:54:12.039
<v Speaker 2>It isn't I think I'm glad that you brought it up, Dick,

1048
00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:13.719
<v Speaker 2>because I know people can say what they want to

1049
00:54:13.800 --> 00:54:15.760
<v Speaker 2>about bull streaks these days. I know when every team

1050
00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:17.239
<v Speaker 2>with a pulse mix a bowl. But you know what

1051
00:54:17.679 --> 00:54:20.199
<v Speaker 2>the only teams with the only teams with longer streaks

1052
00:54:20.199 --> 00:54:23.039
<v Speaker 2>in the SEC right now, active streaks or George and Alabama.

1053
00:54:23.039 --> 00:54:25.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's some pretty elite company to find yourself

1054
00:54:25.039 --> 00:54:26.079
<v Speaker 2>in Kentucky football.

1055
00:54:26.280 --> 00:54:28.360
<v Speaker 1>You can schedule yourself a ball game, But then why

1056
00:54:28.360 --> 00:54:29.360
<v Speaker 1>hasn't everybody done it?

1057
00:54:29.480 --> 00:54:29.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1058
00:54:29.880 --> 00:54:31.840
<v Speaker 1>You know you still got to go and win. Yeah,

1059
00:54:31.880 --> 00:54:35.119
<v Speaker 1>So now, uh, you don't want to look past Ohio.

1060
00:54:35.159 --> 00:54:38.360
<v Speaker 1>You've been just basically looking at the rest of the schedule.

1061
00:54:39.039 --> 00:54:41.159
<v Speaker 1>People have talked about we talked about it on the network,

1062
00:54:41.400 --> 00:54:44.400
<v Speaker 1>about the team's identity, and I think clearly it's going

1063
00:54:44.480 --> 00:54:47.519
<v Speaker 1>to be it is defense and a strong running game

1064
00:54:47.639 --> 00:54:48.400
<v Speaker 1>at least right now.

1065
00:54:48.480 --> 00:54:50.079
<v Speaker 2>Right Yeah, well, I think it has to be. I mean,

1066
00:54:50.079 --> 00:54:53.320
<v Speaker 2>we just to this point have not yet really Again, granted,

1067
00:54:53.320 --> 00:54:55.199
<v Speaker 2>it would have been interesting if if the Southern Miss game

1068
00:54:55.239 --> 00:54:56.880
<v Speaker 2>had not been called, and maybe they get a few

1069
00:54:56.880 --> 00:54:59.360
<v Speaker 2>more drives for Vandergriff out there. You know, maybe he

1070
00:54:59.360 --> 00:55:01.199
<v Speaker 2>would have tossed two or three more touchdowns, you know,

1071
00:55:01.239 --> 00:55:03.079
<v Speaker 2>And so maybe we're sitting there looking at that he

1072
00:55:03.119 --> 00:55:05.239
<v Speaker 2>threw for three hundred yards and five touchdowns in his

1073
00:55:05.320 --> 00:55:07.960
<v Speaker 2>opener and you're like, whoa, but so but but now

1074
00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:11.199
<v Speaker 2>that they've played South Carolina played Georgia, Uh, at this point,

1075
00:55:11.239 --> 00:55:13.199
<v Speaker 2>we haven't seen enough from the passing game to to

1076
00:55:13.360 --> 00:55:15.559
<v Speaker 2>think that, okay, they can lean on that yet. Now

1077
00:55:16.079 --> 00:55:17.800
<v Speaker 2>I gotta say, you know, Dick, I think it's been

1078
00:55:17.840 --> 00:55:20.400
<v Speaker 2>the biggest revelation to me so far this season. I

1079
00:55:20.400 --> 00:55:23.079
<v Speaker 2>don't think I'm alone in this opinion. Uh, you know,

1080
00:55:23.199 --> 00:55:25.880
<v Speaker 2>Demi Sumacarnbay kind of came here known as this kind

1081
00:55:25.880 --> 00:55:28.599
<v Speaker 2>of shifty guy and can definitely get out in space

1082
00:55:28.639 --> 00:55:30.679
<v Speaker 2>and make people miss. And of course we saw last

1083
00:55:30.719 --> 00:55:32.719
<v Speaker 2>year they split him out wide so much. But now

1084
00:55:33.000 --> 00:55:34.960
<v Speaker 2>look at how often he's run between the tackles and

1085
00:55:35.000 --> 00:55:38.719
<v Speaker 2>got some really, really really tough yards. So moved it.

1086
00:55:38.920 --> 00:55:42.320
<v Speaker 2>And so I did not foresee that. If you'd ask

1087
00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:44.360
<v Speaker 2>me what he's even the running game, I wouldn't have said, well,

1088
00:55:44.400 --> 00:55:46.719
<v Speaker 2>the run between the tackles guy will be Demi Simacarnbay,

1089
00:55:46.760 --> 00:55:48.760
<v Speaker 2>because again we were expecting Chip train him to have

1090
00:55:48.760 --> 00:55:51.519
<v Speaker 2>already played by now. But I just think that that

1091
00:55:52.239 --> 00:55:54.239
<v Speaker 2>Dimmy Simcarbey is doing such a great job for himself

1092
00:55:54.239 --> 00:55:57.039
<v Speaker 2>because he's showing future teams and the pros like, hey,

1093
00:55:57.079 --> 00:55:59.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm not just a shifty guy like I can. I

1094
00:55:59.599 --> 00:56:01.760
<v Speaker 2>can toe the rock, so to speak, and do what

1095
00:56:01.800 --> 00:56:02.719
<v Speaker 2>I need to do if you need me to.

1096
00:56:02.880 --> 00:56:05.800
<v Speaker 1>I was given permission to go to the second scrimmage.

1097
00:56:05.800 --> 00:56:07.480
<v Speaker 1>I didn't ask about the first one, but I went

1098
00:56:07.519 --> 00:56:10.559
<v Speaker 1>to the second one. And obviously I can't. I couldn't

1099
00:56:10.599 --> 00:56:12.480
<v Speaker 1>talk about it on the air, sworn to secrecy all

1100
00:56:12.480 --> 00:56:16.039
<v Speaker 1>that stuff, but I can tell you now that Demi

1101
00:56:16.079 --> 00:56:19.800
<v Speaker 1>looked great getting off the edge, you know, but between

1102
00:56:19.840 --> 00:56:22.519
<v Speaker 1>the tackles, he didn't do a whole lot, which tells

1103
00:56:22.559 --> 00:56:26.239
<v Speaker 1>me now that that speaks highly of the Kentucky internal

1104
00:56:26.320 --> 00:56:30.159
<v Speaker 1>line interior defense compared to what he has done against

1105
00:56:30.199 --> 00:56:33.519
<v Speaker 1>both South Carolina and Georgia. I have to admit I'm

1106
00:56:33.559 --> 00:56:37.280
<v Speaker 1>totally stunned by that, because, as I said, he was

1107
00:56:37.360 --> 00:56:39.920
<v Speaker 1>dragging people. I went back and watched the Georgia game

1108
00:56:39.960 --> 00:56:44.400
<v Speaker 1>again on Wednesday, and he was dragging people along, wasn't he.

1109
00:56:44.480 --> 00:56:47.599
<v Speaker 2>Oh it's I mean, like I said it, it by far.

1110
00:56:47.800 --> 00:56:49.199
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, if you have my what's my biggest

1111
00:56:49.239 --> 00:56:51.199
<v Speaker 2>takeaway so far from the season. That was a surprise

1112
00:56:51.519 --> 00:56:53.000
<v Speaker 2>that that's been it for sure.

1113
00:56:53.519 --> 00:56:56.519
<v Speaker 1>What did you think of the early game plan? And

1114
00:56:56.760 --> 00:57:00.840
<v Speaker 1>do you think we'll see more of Vandergriff running the football?

1115
00:57:00.880 --> 00:57:04.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean the quarterback runs that they used early. Georgia

1116
00:57:04.320 --> 00:57:08.880
<v Speaker 1>eventually adjusted took it away, but Vandergriff I thought running

1117
00:57:09.000 --> 00:57:11.239
<v Speaker 1>getting to the edge was huge early.

1118
00:57:11.599 --> 00:57:13.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, well, Dick, I'm actually going to answer that question

1119
00:57:13.400 --> 00:57:15.159
<v Speaker 2>by asking you a question because I kind of got here.

1120
00:57:15.199 --> 00:57:17.119
<v Speaker 2>When I got here my first game that I covered

1121
00:57:17.519 --> 00:57:20.280
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky football was the Mississippi State game in twenty twenty two.

1122
00:57:20.400 --> 00:57:22.239
<v Speaker 2>Ok So this was the week after they'd lost to

1123
00:57:22.280 --> 00:57:24.280
<v Speaker 2>South Carolina. This is Will Levis coming back from that

1124
00:57:24.280 --> 00:57:27.000
<v Speaker 2>foot injury, right, But so the only you know, season

1125
00:57:27.039 --> 00:57:29.079
<v Speaker 2>I get to cover Levis he was hampered the rest

1126
00:57:29.119 --> 00:57:32.119
<v Speaker 2>of that season with his foot. Does Vandergriff look like

1127
00:57:32.199 --> 00:57:35.079
<v Speaker 2>what Levis did when Levis had no restriction? Yes, there

1128
00:57:35.119 --> 00:57:35.360
<v Speaker 2>you go.

1129
00:57:35.480 --> 00:57:36.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he really did.

1130
00:57:36.559 --> 00:57:38.519
<v Speaker 2>Same kind of size too, right, Yeah, very.

1131
00:57:38.440 --> 00:57:41.400
<v Speaker 1>Similar, very similar. So there maybe not quite the downfield

1132
00:57:41.480 --> 00:57:43.280
<v Speaker 1>arm strength. All Oh, we haven't. He hadn't had a

1133
00:57:43.360 --> 00:57:46.079
<v Speaker 1>chance to show it yet, But yeah, I mean you

1134
00:57:46.199 --> 00:57:48.400
<v Speaker 1>think back, you know, the first game you have to

1135
00:57:48.440 --> 00:57:50.960
<v Speaker 1>think about with Levis, and of course you weren't here

1136
00:57:51.599 --> 00:57:54.320
<v Speaker 1>was the Louisville game his first season when he scored

1137
00:57:54.360 --> 00:57:59.760
<v Speaker 1>four touchdowns and bulge somebody over leaped the linebacker. Truly superman,

1138
00:58:01.039 --> 00:58:02.639
<v Speaker 1>and you know, and they took that away from him.

1139
00:58:02.719 --> 00:58:04.960
<v Speaker 1>They ain't gonna take that away from Vandergriff, are they? No?

1140
00:58:05.000 --> 00:58:06.599
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's so that's why I brought that

1141
00:58:06.679 --> 00:58:08.440
<v Speaker 2>up there, because I just think, given what he's already

1142
00:58:08.440 --> 00:58:11.480
<v Speaker 2>shown with it, you've got to incorporate that into the offense.

1143
00:58:11.519 --> 00:58:14.840
<v Speaker 2>I just know, like with any team, you've just got

1144
00:58:14.840 --> 00:58:17.119
<v Speaker 2>to really be you've got to balance it right, Like,

1145
00:58:17.360 --> 00:58:20.119
<v Speaker 2>we don't want our art in quarterback continually taking these

1146
00:58:20.159 --> 00:58:22.960
<v Speaker 2>big hits and and and and you know, putting himself

1147
00:58:22.960 --> 00:58:24.559
<v Speaker 2>in too much danger. But at the same time you

1148
00:58:24.599 --> 00:58:26.559
<v Speaker 2>can't say, well, we can't use this at all because

1149
00:58:26.559 --> 00:58:27.960
<v Speaker 2>we've got to let him stay in the pocket. So

1150
00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:29.559
<v Speaker 2>it just has a delicate balance.

1151
00:58:29.280 --> 00:58:33.760
<v Speaker 1>That just hampered Levis under Scangarillo. And I got it,

1152
00:58:33.840 --> 00:58:35.880
<v Speaker 1>he said, you know, he kept talking about it. How

1153
00:58:35.920 --> 00:58:38.159
<v Speaker 1>many times were we there when he said NFL.

1154
00:58:39.280 --> 00:58:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Every press conference he ever he ever had, he said,

1155
00:58:42.039 --> 00:58:43.559
<v Speaker 2>invoked it at some point. Yeah.

1156
00:58:43.599 --> 00:58:45.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, and I get it. You don't want your putting,

1157
00:58:45.880 --> 00:58:48.719
<v Speaker 1>as you said, your quarterback in danger, but to take

1158
00:58:48.920 --> 00:58:52.800
<v Speaker 1>the ability when the pocket breaks down, especially that pocket

1159
00:58:53.159 --> 00:58:54.880
<v Speaker 1>that Levis had his second year.

1160
00:58:55.079 --> 00:58:57.159
<v Speaker 2>And which I mean gave up more sacks than any

1161
00:58:57.199 --> 00:58:59.159
<v Speaker 2>Power five team. And well, of course it was Power

1162
00:58:59.199 --> 00:59:02.320
<v Speaker 2>five back then, big power conference team in the country.

1163
00:59:02.360 --> 00:59:05.480
<v Speaker 1>But it's why I think Levis got hurt so much.

1164
00:59:05.920 --> 00:59:08.000
<v Speaker 1>He couldn't run away from danger to year. To use

1165
00:59:08.039 --> 00:59:11.800
<v Speaker 1>your word, But and you know, I go back several years.

1166
00:59:12.239 --> 00:59:15.360
<v Speaker 1>Patrick Toles when Shannon Dawson got here, who knows the

1167
00:59:15.400 --> 00:59:17.840
<v Speaker 1>passing game inside and out. But the one year he

1168
00:59:17.920 --> 00:59:21.199
<v Speaker 1>was the OC, he barked the tolls I'm told in

1169
00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:23.280
<v Speaker 1>practice for trying to run. If you want to be

1170
00:59:23.320 --> 00:59:25.239
<v Speaker 1>a running back, you go over there with the running backs.

1171
00:59:25.400 --> 00:59:28.159
<v Speaker 1>Took that away from him, and that that made Patrick

1172
00:59:28.199 --> 00:59:31.519
<v Speaker 1>Toles a one dimensional quarterback and it just did not work.

1173
00:59:31.800 --> 00:59:35.360
<v Speaker 1>So anyhow, getting back to your original question, Yeah, reminded

1174
00:59:35.400 --> 00:59:38.199
<v Speaker 1>me of Will Levis. That's why when he does get

1175
00:59:38.239 --> 00:59:41.079
<v Speaker 1>time to throw, I want to see the deep pass

1176
00:59:41.559 --> 00:59:43.280
<v Speaker 1>from vander Griff. Haven't seen that yet.

1177
00:59:43.400 --> 00:59:44.920
<v Speaker 2>No, And you know, I think the other thing is

1178
00:59:44.960 --> 00:59:47.480
<v Speaker 2>too And you know it's like every every week Mark

1179
00:59:47.519 --> 00:59:49.920
<v Speaker 2>stoops and now bush Ham and get asked about that.

1180
00:59:49.960 --> 00:59:52.440
<v Speaker 2>There's also got to be ways to get get especially

1181
00:59:52.480 --> 00:59:54.960
<v Speaker 2>barry On Brown, get him the ball in space or Macklin,

1182
00:59:55.320 --> 00:59:56.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, get them the ball in space and let

1183
00:59:56.679 --> 00:59:57.199
<v Speaker 2>them make play.

1184
00:59:57.239 --> 00:59:59.400
<v Speaker 1>He had a good pocket for that. Yeah, give him time.

1185
00:59:59.599 --> 01:00:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Of course, Varian's double team now where he goes, but

1186
01:00:02.880 --> 01:00:04.480
<v Speaker 1>he can run away from a lot of people.

1187
01:00:05.639 --> 01:00:07.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, look at how many NFL teams you've heard about

1188
01:00:07.239 --> 01:00:09.559
<v Speaker 2>this stick are now using receivers in the backfield to

1189
01:00:09.559 --> 01:00:11.119
<v Speaker 2>just give them the ball to do.

1190
01:00:11.159 --> 01:00:14.719
<v Speaker 1>That some Yeah, well, which they tried against him South Carolina.

1191
01:00:14.719 --> 01:00:18.360
<v Speaker 1>They blew up that jet sweep right now. But yeah,

1192
01:00:18.519 --> 01:00:22.039
<v Speaker 1>get him out there in space, use your tight end

1193
01:00:22.079 --> 01:00:25.239
<v Speaker 1>more against the Ohio you because maybe you don't have

1194
01:00:25.280 --> 01:00:27.519
<v Speaker 1>to keep him in the block. Yep, that kind of thing.

1195
01:00:27.599 --> 01:00:28.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, Dick, I want to plug a store. I did

1196
01:00:28.840 --> 01:00:30.559
<v Speaker 2>today because it was about kind of like the problems

1197
01:00:30.559 --> 01:00:32.599
<v Speaker 2>that the offense has had through these first few games,

1198
01:00:32.679 --> 01:00:34.360
<v Speaker 2>and this stat I'm sure if you haven't had chance,

1199
01:00:34.599 --> 01:00:36.519
<v Speaker 2>this might blow your mind. All right, did you know

1200
01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:40.320
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky is the only SEC team that does not have

1201
01:00:40.360 --> 01:00:42.079
<v Speaker 2>a rush of at least thirty yards this season?

1202
01:00:42.360 --> 01:00:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Wow?

1203
01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:44.719
<v Speaker 2>Only team in the SEC? Wow?

1204
01:00:46.119 --> 01:00:50.199
<v Speaker 1>Is the longest the seventeen yard or by Vandergriff against Georgia.

1205
01:00:50.760 --> 01:00:53.159
<v Speaker 2>I believe the longest with whims it had like the

1206
01:00:53.199 --> 01:00:58.199
<v Speaker 2>twenty four yard run that's right there against Carolina. Yeah,

1207
01:00:57.840 --> 01:00:59.639
<v Speaker 2>uh so? And then but and do you know off

1208
01:00:59.679 --> 01:01:01.639
<v Speaker 2>top of your being the longest play that they've had

1209
01:01:01.679 --> 01:01:02.719
<v Speaker 2>all season in any.

1210
01:01:03.039 --> 01:01:05.800
<v Speaker 1>The Dan there's a past to Dane Key Macklin.

1211
01:01:05.519 --> 01:01:08.079
<v Speaker 2>Had the forty six yards Southern miss and that's right.

1212
01:01:08.320 --> 01:01:11.320
<v Speaker 2>So it's just basically this The story kind of dove

1213
01:01:11.360 --> 01:01:13.400
<v Speaker 2>into all the different issues the offense has had, but

1214
01:01:13.480 --> 01:01:15.280
<v Speaker 2>one of the big sections I focused on was just

1215
01:01:15.280 --> 01:01:16.559
<v Speaker 2>the lack of explosive plays.

1216
01:01:16.599 --> 01:01:19.119
<v Speaker 1>Well, and you also wrote about the fact that it

1217
01:01:19.280 --> 01:01:22.320
<v Speaker 1>amazingly Kentucky has has scored a touchdown in eight quarters

1218
01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:24.280
<v Speaker 1>eight quarters. That's that's stunning to me.

1219
01:01:24.880 --> 01:01:28.159
<v Speaker 2>It's well, I say this, but man, just think where

1220
01:01:28.199 --> 01:01:32.280
<v Speaker 2>they would be without Alex Rayner. I mean, jeez, he man,

1221
01:01:32.360 --> 01:01:36.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's just been so so consistent. It's it's

1222
01:01:36.239 --> 01:01:38.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, if I if I've ever seen a

1223
01:01:38.400 --> 01:01:41.559
<v Speaker 2>kicker be more consistent now over two season stretch than

1224
01:01:41.639 --> 01:01:43.639
<v Speaker 2>what he's been now. It's really remarkable.

1225
01:01:43.719 --> 01:01:45.960
<v Speaker 1>No, so you write about, and you don't have to

1226
01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:49.639
<v Speaker 1>give away the store, but how do the Wildcats get

1227
01:01:49.639 --> 01:01:50.599
<v Speaker 1>back to the end zone?

1228
01:01:51.159 --> 01:01:53.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think, you know, I think the biggest thing,

1229
01:01:53.039 --> 01:01:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Dick is, It's what we've just kind of hit on

1230
01:01:54.960 --> 01:01:56.800
<v Speaker 2>a couple of times, is that, you know, with the

1231
01:01:56.800 --> 01:01:59.639
<v Speaker 2>way the running game is going right now, you've just

1232
01:01:59.639 --> 01:02:01.280
<v Speaker 2>got to a way to get the passing game going,

1233
01:02:01.280 --> 01:02:03.239
<v Speaker 2>because hey, if the passing game continues to have the

1234
01:02:03.239 --> 01:02:05.679
<v Speaker 2>issues it's having, these really good defense. And that's why

1235
01:02:05.679 --> 01:02:08.360
<v Speaker 2>I want to bring up because you mentioned Georgia justin

1236
01:02:08.400 --> 01:02:12.199
<v Speaker 2>took Away. You know, Vandergriffs were running some not not many,

1237
01:02:12.360 --> 01:02:14.920
<v Speaker 2>if any, teams are Georgia's defense, So it's like, you're right,

1238
01:02:15.519 --> 01:02:17.360
<v Speaker 2>So it is something I think can continue to be

1239
01:02:17.400 --> 01:02:20.039
<v Speaker 2>successful against teams that are not to the caliber of

1240
01:02:20.320 --> 01:02:23.079
<v Speaker 2>Georgia's defense. And so I just think if they can

1241
01:02:23.119 --> 01:02:26.280
<v Speaker 2>just get the passing game going. And you know, Dick,

1242
01:02:26.320 --> 01:02:29.000
<v Speaker 2>the one thing I've always been a little bit shocked

1243
01:02:29.039 --> 01:02:31.440
<v Speaker 2>about since I've been here, and I guess I've been

1244
01:02:31.440 --> 01:02:32.679
<v Speaker 2>at other schools where this has kind of been a

1245
01:02:32.760 --> 01:02:34.639
<v Speaker 2>similar story. And I'm curious for your take on this.

1246
01:02:35.000 --> 01:02:37.880
<v Speaker 2>It seems like every year we talk about how unbelievably

1247
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<v Speaker 2>deep that the tight end room is and how they

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<v Speaker 2>can catch passes, and it just it doesn't seem like

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<v Speaker 2>they really ever get opportunities in the passing game. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's bizarre to me. It's just bizarre to me.

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<v Speaker 1>It is no, You're right, it's it's almost now. Something

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01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:55.559
<v Speaker 1>you say with the rye grin on media day is

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<v Speaker 1>this today?

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<v Speaker 2>Is this the year the titles get more of corporated.

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<v Speaker 1>I also believe from that we were spoiled as media, people,

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<v Speaker 1>as fans, probably as coaches by the original Big Blue Wall,

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01:03:07.239 --> 01:03:10.840
<v Speaker 1>which just fell into place thanks to recruiting, thanks to

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01:03:10.920 --> 01:03:14.320
<v Speaker 1>one transfer at least, uh, you know, Drake Jackson when

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01:03:14.360 --> 01:03:17.360
<v Speaker 1>they decided to start Drake at center before you guid

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01:03:17.360 --> 01:03:21.119
<v Speaker 1>are now coach moved Bunchie Stallings to guard. He became

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01:03:21.159 --> 01:03:24.119
<v Speaker 1>an All American, Drake became an All Conference performer, and

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01:03:24.159 --> 01:03:26.880
<v Speaker 1>the Big Blue Line was born, you know, and it's

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01:03:26.920 --> 01:03:27.679
<v Speaker 1>it's since.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that old school n named Bunchie and that's

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<v Speaker 2>like one of the ones you read about, like the

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen thirties. Yeah, they moved Bunches Stalin.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a cool guy too. He's a good guy

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to you, A great one. Yeah, but you

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01:03:37.320 --> 01:03:39.639
<v Speaker 1>know that's starting to at its best. The Big Blue

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<v Speaker 1>Wall featured five guys who wound up in NFL camps

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<v Speaker 1>and three made the teams. Haven't even been close to

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<v Speaker 1>that since. And it all starts there, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? You know that's you constantly hear this, you know, Dick,

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<v Speaker 2>When people are like, why is the SEC just year

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<v Speaker 2>after you're usually the best conference in college football, it's

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01:03:55.639 --> 01:03:58.920
<v Speaker 2>because on those lines, offensive, defensive, wants that they're just

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<v Speaker 2>they're better. And like you said, if you're not if

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01:04:01.639 --> 01:04:04.559
<v Speaker 2>in this league, if you don't have NFL caliber lineman,

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01:04:05.079 --> 01:04:07.480
<v Speaker 2>you are going to have a tough time. It's exactly

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01:04:07.559 --> 01:04:09.119
<v Speaker 2>what you're just saying, no question.

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<v Speaker 1>Because if you don't have any other guys do on

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<v Speaker 1>both sides. We're talking to Ryan Black. He is a

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<v Speaker 1>UK beat writer for the Career Journal. When we come back,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about Wildcat basketball. It's coming right at us

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<v Speaker 1>here on a Big Blue Sider six thirty WLAP. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to the Big Bollon Sider here in the Garage,

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<v Speaker 1>live on tape with Ryan Black at the Career Journal.

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<v Speaker 1>He dropped by. We've had several people dropped by the

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01:04:30.800 --> 01:04:33.719
<v Speaker 1>garage and Ryan was gracious enough to come by. Although

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<v Speaker 1>you you your journalists curiosity got you here, didn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>Just like you know, I've seen other guests, you know,

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01:04:39.559 --> 01:04:41.559
<v Speaker 2>as you said, with your wife taking the photos. I'm like, well,

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01:04:41.599 --> 01:04:43.280
<v Speaker 2>when did when did Ryan Black get that? In fight?

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01:04:43.320 --> 01:04:45.239
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'd paid my dues and you said,

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<v Speaker 2>you said come by, and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Said, you think it's something to what you must aspire,

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<v Speaker 1>But like we welcome all.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thanks I'm very big on that paying your dues

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01:04:53.960 --> 01:04:55.880
<v Speaker 2>kind of thing. I like, you know, Aaron and other

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01:04:56.159 --> 01:04:58.559
<v Speaker 2>Aaron gershon a good time just they they'd paid their

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<v Speaker 2>dues and they'd earned that right now. I felt like, Hey,

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01:05:00.519 --> 01:05:01.880
<v Speaker 2>I've been here two years now, I've been on the

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01:05:01.880 --> 01:05:05.519
<v Speaker 2>show maybe ten to twelve times. I felt like, you

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01:05:05.519 --> 01:05:06.960
<v Speaker 2>know what, heck, let me let me see you kind

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01:05:06.960 --> 01:05:08.159
<v Speaker 2>of finally earned that right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, my white will is Mark Pope really

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01:05:10.960 --> 01:05:12.760
<v Speaker 1>trying to get Yeah, who is to.

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01:05:12.719 --> 01:05:14.480
<v Speaker 2>Get him here? He'd come to the through.

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<v Speaker 1>His spokesperson has said they're willing, They just got to

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01:05:17.400 --> 01:05:19.639
<v Speaker 1>working into the schedule. Yeah. Plus there have to be

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01:05:19.679 --> 01:05:22.239
<v Speaker 1>cookies waiting for him. Oh, he's such a cookie guy.

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01:05:22.480 --> 01:05:24.079
<v Speaker 1>Do you know that membery of cookies?

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01:05:24.239 --> 01:05:25.760
<v Speaker 2>At a press conference he did well, And I know

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01:05:25.800 --> 01:05:27.480
<v Speaker 2>he mentioned that's something I believe that he started to

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01:05:27.480 --> 01:05:29.239
<v Speaker 2>b Yu. I don't think he said he started that.

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01:05:29.360 --> 01:05:29.719
<v Speaker 2>Part of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, his wife bakes cookies for the other team, for

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01:05:32.320 --> 01:05:34.559
<v Speaker 1>the opposing team. How great is that?

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01:05:34.599 --> 01:05:36.400
<v Speaker 2>Well that's great too, because like sometimes maybe you're killing

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01:05:36.440 --> 01:05:38.599
<v Speaker 2>them with kindness. Maybe maybe you're already lulling them into

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01:05:38.639 --> 01:05:40.639
<v Speaker 2>a false sense security before you go and beat them.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked with with you earlier about why journalism and

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01:05:44.199 --> 01:05:48.519
<v Speaker 1>why you took this job and covering Kentucky basketball, and

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01:05:48.559 --> 01:05:53.440
<v Speaker 1>you were on hand for one of the great stories,

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01:05:53.800 --> 01:05:56.880
<v Speaker 1>one of the great new chapters to be written in

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01:05:57.000 --> 01:06:00.719
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky basketball, with you know, the legendary job Calip Perry

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01:06:00.920 --> 01:06:04.920
<v Speaker 1>suddenly moving on. I mean, this whole thing was sudden

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01:06:05.679 --> 01:06:10.840
<v Speaker 1>and then hiring kind of an outside the box candidate

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01:06:11.280 --> 01:06:13.000
<v Speaker 1>and Mark Pope, what what was that like for you

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01:06:13.039 --> 01:06:13.960
<v Speaker 1>to cover that story?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what's so funny, Dick was I remember, you know,

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01:06:17.599 --> 01:06:20.639
<v Speaker 2>after you know, Caliperry left, I had to constantly do

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01:06:20.679 --> 01:06:23.239
<v Speaker 2>these updated like hot boards, like potential candidates, and everyone

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01:06:23.320 --> 01:06:25.480
<v Speaker 2>kind of knew that you know, you have you know

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01:06:25.599 --> 01:06:27.559
<v Speaker 2>Hurley and you have Scott Drew and da da da

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<v Speaker 2>da da, and like I would break it down by sections,

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01:06:30.239 --> 01:06:32.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, in terms of like we'll hear raining coaches

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01:06:32.039 --> 01:06:33.920
<v Speaker 2>and here maybe some other people to watch. And I

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01:06:33.960 --> 01:06:36.320
<v Speaker 2>thought about adding a section where it's like, you know,

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01:06:37.440 --> 01:06:40.400
<v Speaker 2>former Kentucky coaches or alums that are who were coaching,

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01:06:40.400 --> 01:06:43.320
<v Speaker 2>who might even be just just just throw it out there.

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<v Speaker 2>But I thought, you know, it's all gone and putting

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01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:46.639
<v Speaker 2>Pope on there just seems like such a long shot

1344
01:06:46.639 --> 01:06:48.119
<v Speaker 2>people and be like, oh, you've thought about it. Oh,

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01:06:48.119 --> 01:06:50.119
<v Speaker 2>I thought about it for sure, for sure, just because

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01:06:50.159 --> 01:06:51.960
<v Speaker 2>he mean the other thing is too well, well, the

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01:06:52.039 --> 01:06:54.599
<v Speaker 2>other thing is too though, Dick. It's not like if

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01:06:54.599 --> 01:06:57.079
<v Speaker 2>you look at his record, it's not as if Byu

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01:06:57.199 --> 01:06:59.800
<v Speaker 2>was coming off in a Louisville like season where they

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01:06:59.800 --> 01:07:01.440
<v Speaker 2>were like four and twenty eight. I mean he led

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01:07:01.440 --> 01:07:03.480
<v Speaker 2>them they were picked to finish next to last in

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01:07:03.679 --> 01:07:06.400
<v Speaker 2>the top basketball conference in America and led them to

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01:07:06.440 --> 01:07:09.800
<v Speaker 2>the tournament. And so if nothing else, people are like, hey,

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01:07:09.800 --> 01:07:12.159
<v Speaker 2>this guy can coach, you know, But I just thought, well,

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01:07:12.280 --> 01:07:14.039
<v Speaker 2>han't he has any I know the big knock and

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01:07:14.039 --> 01:07:16.679
<v Speaker 2>you will hear it a hundred million times before the opener.

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<v Speaker 2>He has not wonted into the tournament game yet, fine.

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01:07:19.199 --> 01:07:21.559
<v Speaker 1>Budd, he wasn't even supposed to be there, that's my So.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's it's like, as you said, it's like what

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01:07:23.480 --> 01:07:25.800
<v Speaker 2>you're betting on right now is what can he do

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01:07:25.920 --> 01:07:28.199
<v Speaker 2>when you give him the keys, the ferrari and all

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01:07:28.239 --> 01:07:30.159
<v Speaker 2>the resources that you have here that Kentucky puts in

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01:07:30.239 --> 01:07:30.519
<v Speaker 2>the basket.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll put that to you, Well, do you think

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01:07:32.960 --> 01:07:35.480
<v Speaker 1>he could do with this group, because you talk about

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01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:39.280
<v Speaker 1>doing something that virtually no coaches ever had to do,

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01:07:39.840 --> 01:07:43.599
<v Speaker 1>and that start from scratch at least Cali Perry has

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01:07:43.960 --> 01:07:46.239
<v Speaker 1>guys you transferred in that he recruited who used to

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01:07:46.239 --> 01:07:46.880
<v Speaker 1>play for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and even of course he brought so many of

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01:07:48.880 --> 01:07:50.840
<v Speaker 2>the guys who originally were going to Memphis with him

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01:07:51.079 --> 01:07:53.239
<v Speaker 2>who ended up coming here, you know, from.

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01:07:53.119 --> 01:07:54.440
<v Speaker 1>As recruity as recruits.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what's so funny, Dick, As you asked

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01:07:56.960 --> 01:07:58.920
<v Speaker 2>me this, I was. I was literally writing this story

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01:07:59.159 --> 01:08:02.079
<v Speaker 2>last night and this morning about like the kind of

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01:08:02.079 --> 01:08:04.679
<v Speaker 2>five key games, and in my intro I kind of

1378
01:08:04.719 --> 01:08:07.840
<v Speaker 2>mentioned that the Pie in the Sky kind of dreamed

1379
01:08:07.840 --> 01:08:09.960
<v Speaker 2>for Kentucky would be as a he's as if Pope

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01:08:10.079 --> 01:08:11.960
<v Speaker 2>was able to do what Tubby Smith did and when

1381
01:08:12.360 --> 01:08:14.880
<v Speaker 2>when national title in his first season, the difference of

1382
01:08:14.920 --> 01:08:18.439
<v Speaker 2>course being that he did have players who inherited and

1383
01:08:18.439 --> 01:08:21.279
<v Speaker 2>were coming back from those two previous teams, you know,

1384
01:08:21.319 --> 01:08:24.680
<v Speaker 2>there were national champions and then but like you said,

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01:08:25.119 --> 01:08:28.000
<v Speaker 2>outside of of you know, one player, he doesn't have

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01:08:28.039 --> 01:08:32.359
<v Speaker 2>a single person who's ever played under him, and so, uh,

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01:08:32.840 --> 01:08:35.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, Dick, I think I mean, for certain I

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01:08:35.960 --> 01:08:38.560
<v Speaker 2>would be shocked if they're not an INSTIB tournament team.

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<v Speaker 2>I just do think it's it's hard to say, well, okay,

1390
01:08:43.760 --> 01:08:45.680
<v Speaker 2>if they don't at least make it to this level,

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01:08:45.720 --> 01:08:47.359
<v Speaker 2>it's it's a failure of a season because I think

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01:08:47.399 --> 01:08:49.279
<v Speaker 2>you just have to keep, you know, bear in mind

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01:08:49.399 --> 01:08:51.720
<v Speaker 2>just what this is. Like you kind of said, when

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01:08:51.720 --> 01:08:54.520
<v Speaker 2>you're literally putting together a new team from scratch, there's

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01:08:54.560 --> 01:08:56.399
<v Speaker 2>got there's gonna be some growing pains along the way.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I think, and I know this baby is

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01:08:59.720 --> 01:09:01.279
<v Speaker 2>not what Kentucky fans want here, but I think, man,

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01:09:01.439 --> 01:09:03.760
<v Speaker 2>if you if you make it to the Sweet sixteen

1399
01:09:03.840 --> 01:09:06.640
<v Speaker 2>this year after, if that has not happened since twenty nineteen,

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01:09:06.880 --> 01:09:08.680
<v Speaker 2>you can you can say, well, hey, he's already head

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01:09:08.680 --> 01:09:11.239
<v Speaker 2>of Cayle's final five years here. Yeah, but I know

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01:09:11.279 --> 01:09:14.279
<v Speaker 2>that's I know Sweet sixteens are not what Kentucky is about,

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01:09:14.319 --> 01:09:15.920
<v Speaker 2>and it's not, But I'm just saying that it would

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01:09:15.920 --> 01:09:19.880
<v Speaker 2>at least show progress off the end of the previous.

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01:09:19.600 --> 01:09:22.079
<v Speaker 1>And I think I fully agree with you. Yeah, And

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01:09:22.159 --> 01:09:24.680
<v Speaker 1>I think along the way, if they get that, for

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01:09:24.880 --> 01:09:27.880
<v Speaker 1>they will generate so much happiness, Yeah, from a fan

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01:09:27.960 --> 01:09:29.840
<v Speaker 1>base that hasn't felt happy in a long time.

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01:09:30.039 --> 01:09:33.039
<v Speaker 2>Well, and Dick, I've told so many people this when

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01:09:33.039 --> 01:09:34.640
<v Speaker 2>people are like, what was it? Like cover and cal

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01:09:34.720 --> 01:09:36.199
<v Speaker 2>and you maybe knew this. I had a really kind

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01:09:36.239 --> 01:09:38.520
<v Speaker 2>of fun relationship with them. We had had a few

1413
01:09:38.600 --> 01:09:40.960
<v Speaker 2>fun kind of back and forth and press conferences. But

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01:09:41.079 --> 01:09:43.760
<v Speaker 2>the thing that I never understood about him, and if

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01:09:43.800 --> 01:09:45.479
<v Speaker 2>something that Pope made sure to mention and that that

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01:09:45.600 --> 01:09:50.439
<v Speaker 2>big intro pressor celebration at Reparena, uh, was his just

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01:09:50.520 --> 01:09:54.039
<v Speaker 2>complete disdain for the conference tournament. And you know, Kentucky

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01:09:54.039 --> 01:09:56.319
<v Speaker 2>fans view that as their birthright, considering how many times

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01:09:56.359 --> 01:10:00.199
<v Speaker 2>they've won it. And to basically repeatedly tell the media,

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01:10:00.279 --> 01:10:02.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't care about this event, like lie to say

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01:10:02.920 --> 01:10:05.000
<v Speaker 2>publicly that, oh, we want to go and win it.

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01:10:05.279 --> 01:10:07.279
<v Speaker 2>But if you want to say to your players, well, hey,

1423
01:10:07.319 --> 01:10:09.520
<v Speaker 2>I would rather lose the first round to gear up

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01:10:09.520 --> 01:10:11.680
<v Speaker 2>for the real tournament. But don't say but the fact

1425
01:10:11.720 --> 01:10:13.359
<v Speaker 2>that he went out of his way time and again

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01:10:13.439 --> 01:10:15.159
<v Speaker 2>say you guys know that I don't you know, I

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01:10:15.199 --> 01:10:17.279
<v Speaker 2>care about the real tournament like it was just because

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01:10:17.279 --> 01:10:18.880
<v Speaker 2>I've just never heard of coach say we don't even

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01:10:18.880 --> 01:10:20.840
<v Speaker 2>care about that, Like to me, anytime you take the floor,

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01:10:20.840 --> 01:10:23.079
<v Speaker 2>take the take the field like you're trying to win

1431
01:10:23.279 --> 01:10:25.560
<v Speaker 2>and you know what, also, huh, I just never understood that.

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01:10:25.640 --> 01:10:29.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean one of the biggest reasons was he was

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01:10:29.159 --> 01:10:32.680
<v Speaker 1>standing right there watching the teams that did win back

1434
01:10:32.720 --> 01:10:36.079
<v Speaker 1>when he was having his most fun watching them celebrate

1435
01:10:36.119 --> 01:10:40.359
<v Speaker 1>the SEC tournament win. Those guys were overjoyed to win it.

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01:10:40.840 --> 01:10:43.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they had trophies, there was confestive, they they

1437
01:10:43.600 --> 01:10:47.399
<v Speaker 1>love those. If you're a good player, obviously you're competitive

1438
01:10:47.399 --> 01:10:50.760
<v Speaker 1>and you want to win, and watching your guys win

1439
01:10:50.880 --> 01:10:53.560
<v Speaker 1>those games, that's got to be a message to you.

1440
01:10:53.640 --> 01:10:56.399
<v Speaker 1>But to me, it was like, who you trying to kid?

1441
01:10:56.399 --> 01:10:58.720
<v Speaker 1>Are you're trying to be cool here? I mean?

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01:10:58.760 --> 01:11:00.479
<v Speaker 2>And also to me, just since the wrong message to

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01:11:00.520 --> 01:11:02.720
<v Speaker 2>the fan base. It's like, watcht have your money to

1444
01:11:02.800 --> 01:11:05.000
<v Speaker 2>an event that that I've already told my players and

1445
01:11:05.039 --> 01:11:07.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm speaking to you publicly that we don't care about

1446
01:11:07.199 --> 01:11:09.680
<v Speaker 2>like and to me, it's like the opposite of what

1447
01:11:09.720 --> 01:11:11.159
<v Speaker 2>you would tell someone in pr And then.

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01:11:11.039 --> 01:11:12.880
<v Speaker 1>When you get knocked out of is what turn out

1449
01:11:12.880 --> 01:11:15.359
<v Speaker 1>to be his last at Kentucky, I felt bad for

1450
01:11:15.399 --> 01:11:18.279
<v Speaker 1>the fans. Well, you know, you had also told the

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<v Speaker 1>fans exactly what you had just really reminded them of

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01:11:21.600 --> 01:11:23.880
<v Speaker 1>I really don't care about this. A couple of minutes

1453
01:11:23.920 --> 01:11:26.039
<v Speaker 1>left with Ryan Black. The time has gone so fast,

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01:11:26.039 --> 01:11:30.840
<v Speaker 1>it has. But I do think twenty plus wins I

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01:11:30.880 --> 01:11:33.640
<v Speaker 1>think is entirely possible given the schedule. But it is

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01:11:33.680 --> 01:11:36.039
<v Speaker 1>a tough schedule. And if they could win one of

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01:11:36.079 --> 01:11:39.560
<v Speaker 1>those marquee matchups one or two, uh yeah, I think

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01:11:39.600 --> 01:11:43.439
<v Speaker 1>the UK fan base now the expectations will explode. But

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01:11:43.520 --> 01:11:45.319
<v Speaker 1>that's Kentucky basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>Right Yeah. Well, and Dick, I'm glad that you you

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01:11:47.199 --> 01:11:49.159
<v Speaker 2>brought up what you brought up. I think something that

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01:11:49.159 --> 01:11:51.960
<v Speaker 2>that I know it's not what Kentucky fans want to hear,

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01:11:52.000 --> 01:11:54.920
<v Speaker 2>but I hope that the ones who were reasonable, which

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01:11:54.920 --> 01:11:58.760
<v Speaker 2>maybe is like a contradiction, right, reasonable fan, I mean

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01:11:58.840 --> 01:12:02.920
<v Speaker 2>it's military intelligent and stace is short for fanatic, But

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01:12:03.119 --> 01:12:08.039
<v Speaker 2>that the SEC that Mark Pope is walking into is

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01:12:08.560 --> 01:12:11.399
<v Speaker 2>a heck of a lot tougher than the SEC when

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01:12:11.520 --> 01:12:14.039
<v Speaker 2>John Caliperry walked in the door. True, I mean, it's

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01:12:14.119 --> 01:12:15.800
<v Speaker 2>just not it's night and day different.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh question, that's a great point. I even thought about

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01:12:18.840 --> 01:12:20.279
<v Speaker 1>beyond the two new teams.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, oh yeah, no, I'm not even I'm

1473
01:12:22.439 --> 01:12:24.840
<v Speaker 2>talking about where there's Tennessee Alabama, go down.

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01:12:24.720 --> 01:12:29.560
<v Speaker 1>The Loney salaries for coaches, salaries for assistance, upgraded recruiting.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right, I mean, because we're talking about a span

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01:12:32.159 --> 01:12:36.880
<v Speaker 1>of fifteen years and a league that sat down and said,

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01:12:36.880 --> 01:12:38.119
<v Speaker 1>all right, how do we get more teams in the

1478
01:12:38.159 --> 01:12:40.439
<v Speaker 1>NAC Tournament? What do we have to do? And they've

1479
01:12:40.439 --> 01:12:42.119
<v Speaker 1>gone out and done and haven't they No.

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01:12:42.479 --> 01:12:44.520
<v Speaker 2>I remember as you mentioned that that was a big

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01:12:44.880 --> 01:12:47.640
<v Speaker 2>push from the league office. It's like, it's embarrassing that

1482
01:12:47.720 --> 01:12:50.399
<v Speaker 2>as much money that we make in dominic football, that

1483
01:12:50.479 --> 01:12:53.319
<v Speaker 2>basketball struggles so much. And so as you said, uh,

1484
01:12:53.359 --> 01:12:54.880
<v Speaker 2>they sat down and got that figured out.

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01:12:55.000 --> 01:12:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Hired is Mike Tree, Yeah, the.

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01:12:57.800 --> 01:12:58.840
<v Speaker 2>Former BIGGAST commissioners.

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01:12:58.920 --> 01:13:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, he said what do we do? And

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01:13:01.600 --> 01:13:04.239
<v Speaker 1>he said, here's what you do and talked about scheduling.

1489
01:13:04.279 --> 01:13:06.439
<v Speaker 1>So now there's more of the high profile games, right,

1490
01:13:07.319 --> 01:13:11.079
<v Speaker 1>and you see more coaches making pretty good money, which

1491
01:13:11.079 --> 01:13:12.680
<v Speaker 1>means you're gonna tract better candidates.

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01:13:12.800 --> 01:13:14.560
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean it didn't mean, I'll be honest, I'm

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01:13:14.600 --> 01:13:16.720
<v Speaker 2>just I was talking about this, I think with Aaron

1494
01:13:16.760 --> 01:13:18.239
<v Speaker 2>maybe someone else, But it's like you just look at

1495
01:13:18.239 --> 01:13:20.760
<v Speaker 2>the SEC now, I don't think there's a single game

1496
01:13:20.800 --> 01:13:22.279
<v Speaker 2>you just chalk up and say, well that's I mean,

1497
01:13:22.279 --> 01:13:24.079
<v Speaker 2>outside of maybe Van Dy right now. But I think

1498
01:13:24.079 --> 01:13:27.199
<v Speaker 2>the coach they hired from, James Madison, is an amazing coach,

1499
01:13:27.439 --> 01:13:29.359
<v Speaker 2>and I think he's gonna do very well with time.

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01:13:29.680 --> 01:13:31.920
<v Speaker 2>But like I mean, I mean, look at look at

1501
01:13:31.960 --> 01:13:34.359
<v Speaker 2>South Carolina. I mean, look how good LaMonte Parrisol. I mean,

1502
01:13:34.399 --> 01:13:36.680
<v Speaker 2>just just go down the line of you and heck,

1503
01:13:36.720 --> 01:13:39.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean look look how for so long Auburn was

1504
01:13:39.119 --> 01:13:41.359
<v Speaker 2>nothing and now they're a consistent winner in the Bruce Pearl.

1505
01:13:41.520 --> 01:13:44.399
<v Speaker 2>You know, Florida has got a good young coach, Tad Golden.

1506
01:13:44.520 --> 01:13:45.439
<v Speaker 2>You just go down the line.

1507
01:13:45.520 --> 01:13:47.159
<v Speaker 1>Alabama's a poster child now.

1508
01:13:47.239 --> 01:13:49.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean it's just as you said, we'll see

1509
01:13:49.880 --> 01:13:52.600
<v Speaker 2>kind of what Texas and Oklahoma bringing the fold basketball wise.

1510
01:13:52.640 --> 01:13:55.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean, certainly there's tremendous in state talent in Texas

1511
01:13:56.319 --> 01:13:58.840
<v Speaker 2>and you know, Porter Moser, that was an odd move

1512
01:13:58.880 --> 01:14:01.079
<v Speaker 2>to me when he took the Oklahoma job. But and

1513
01:14:01.119 --> 01:14:02.680
<v Speaker 2>he has not really excelled. I mean I kind of

1514
01:14:02.680 --> 01:14:04.960
<v Speaker 2>wonder if he has that buyer's regret or remorse, I

1515
01:14:04.960 --> 01:14:07.680
<v Speaker 2>guess of leaving little Chicago, and maybe he should have

1516
01:14:07.720 --> 01:14:11.680
<v Speaker 2>maybe gone to a school that was more basketball traditional.

1517
01:14:11.720 --> 01:14:13.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean, cause I'll make this, I'll make this comparison.

1518
01:14:14.079 --> 01:14:16.279
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was so bizarre that he had his

1519
01:14:16.319 --> 01:14:19.920
<v Speaker 2>pick of jobs for so long, But Shakasmart left VCU

1520
01:14:20.039 --> 01:14:22.199
<v Speaker 2>for Texas because he could have gone to u C.

1521
01:14:22.359 --> 01:14:26.079
<v Speaker 2>L A or name any other more historic basketball passionate place,

1522
01:14:26.119 --> 01:14:27.600
<v Speaker 2>and he decided to go to Texas because of the

1523
01:14:27.600 --> 01:14:30.800
<v Speaker 2>resources of the lush apartment. But to me, I just

1524
01:14:30.880 --> 01:14:32.520
<v Speaker 2>kind of think maybe Moja would have been better going

1525
01:14:32.520 --> 01:14:34.159
<v Speaker 2>to a school where and hey, look at look at

1526
01:14:34.159 --> 01:14:36.520
<v Speaker 2>how now shawkas Mar's gone to a school at Marquette

1527
01:14:36.680 --> 01:14:38.239
<v Speaker 2>that is about and look at look at he's kind

1528
01:14:38.279 --> 01:14:40.119
<v Speaker 2>of back to winning like he did at VCU.

1529
01:14:40.199 --> 01:14:41.279
<v Speaker 1>They don't even have football.

1530
01:14:41.319 --> 01:14:43.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there you go. So I just think maybe if

1531
01:14:43.000 --> 01:14:45.319
<v Speaker 2>if Moser ends up leaving his own volition, or if

1532
01:14:45.399 --> 01:14:47.800
<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma jettison sim at the end of the season, then

1533
01:14:47.800 --> 01:14:50.439
<v Speaker 2>if he goes back to a basketball first school, he'll

1534
01:14:50.439 --> 01:14:51.279
<v Speaker 2>he'll he'll do fine.

1535
01:14:51.479 --> 01:14:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Ryan Black follow him on Twitter or ex if you will.

1536
01:14:53.960 --> 01:14:56.720
<v Speaker 1>Ryan A. Black in the pages of The Courier Journal

1537
01:14:56.840 --> 01:15:00.239
<v Speaker 1>Online a Courreer Journal dot com. Thanks for visiting the

1538
01:15:00.279 --> 01:15:01.640
<v Speaker 1>garage don't be a stranger.

1539
01:15:01.800 --> 01:15:03.840
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Dick. I appreciate our.

1540
01:15:03.720 --> 01:15:06.319
<v Speaker 1>Thanks to Ryan for dropping by when we come back Heroes,

1541
01:15:06.319 --> 01:15:08.399
<v Speaker 1>Fools and Flakes. As we wrap up the week here

1542
01:15:08.399 --> 01:15:11.319
<v Speaker 1>on the Big Boone Sider six thirty, we'll come back

1543
01:15:11.359 --> 01:15:14.239
<v Speaker 1>to the Big Boone Sider final segment time only for Heroes,

1544
01:15:14.279 --> 01:15:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Fools and Flakes. And our hero tonight is Caitlin Clark.

1545
01:15:18.039 --> 01:15:20.479
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, that could be seen as low hanging fruit

1546
01:15:20.600 --> 01:15:23.640
<v Speaker 1>just about any time, but I got to give her credit.

1547
01:15:23.680 --> 01:15:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Along with the management of the WNBA, the Washington Mystics

1548
01:15:27.840 --> 01:15:31.760
<v Speaker 1>who hosted the Indiana Fever, they moved their game from

1549
01:15:31.800 --> 01:15:34.800
<v Speaker 1>the place where they usually play at the Entertainment and

1550
01:15:34.840 --> 01:15:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Sports Arena in Washington, which only holds about forty two

1551
01:15:38.039 --> 01:15:40.960
<v Speaker 1>hundred people. The Mystics moved their final game in the

1552
01:15:41.000 --> 01:15:45.359
<v Speaker 1>regular season to the Capitol One Arena, much much bigger.

1553
01:15:45.399 --> 01:15:49.119
<v Speaker 1>That's why they set a WNBA attendance record last night

1554
01:15:49.520 --> 01:15:54.600
<v Speaker 1>with twenty thousand, seven hundred and eleven, largest in WNBA history.

1555
01:15:55.079 --> 01:15:57.720
<v Speaker 1>The Fever beat the Mystics ninety two to ninety one,

1556
01:15:58.680 --> 01:16:01.880
<v Speaker 1>and the Mystics still missed out on the playoffs. That

1557
01:16:01.880 --> 01:16:05.119
<v Speaker 1>put the Fever in the playoffs but the Mystics missed

1558
01:16:05.119 --> 01:16:08.720
<v Speaker 1>out because of Atlanta. Ryan Howard won last night, so

1559
01:16:08.840 --> 01:16:11.720
<v Speaker 1>they're in the playoffs. The Mystics are not. But Caitlin

1560
01:16:11.800 --> 01:16:14.279
<v Speaker 1>Clark and all the players in this game threw a

1561
01:16:14.399 --> 01:16:17.720
<v Speaker 1>huge crowd of record crowd last night in DC and

1562
01:16:17.760 --> 01:16:21.479
<v Speaker 1>they planned for it, and that was smart, my full tonight,

1563
01:16:21.880 --> 01:16:25.520
<v Speaker 1>And it's kind of in a backhanded way. Is not

1564
01:16:25.600 --> 01:16:27.520
<v Speaker 1>just to a tungue of below, but anybody who thinks

1565
01:16:27.520 --> 01:16:30.279
<v Speaker 1>he ought to keep playing football. Look, this guy's brain

1566
01:16:30.960 --> 01:16:33.840
<v Speaker 1>is bruised. And it's easy for me to say because

1567
01:16:33.840 --> 01:16:35.720
<v Speaker 1>he's got a family to take care of the butt.

1568
01:16:36.119 --> 01:16:40.199
<v Speaker 1>He's also worth about thirty million dollars. That's his estimated

1569
01:16:40.279 --> 01:16:43.560
<v Speaker 1>net work. He should be able to live a nice

1570
01:16:43.600 --> 01:16:46.079
<v Speaker 1>life on that money and whatever else comes his way.

1571
01:16:46.720 --> 01:16:50.479
<v Speaker 1>But after all these concussions, please take it easy on

1572
01:16:50.520 --> 01:16:54.720
<v Speaker 1>yourself and do the smart thing, my flake tonight. This

1573
01:16:54.840 --> 01:16:59.039
<v Speaker 1>was really weird. Nicky Glazer joined the team on Amazon

1574
01:16:59.239 --> 01:17:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Prime with what they call late hits. She did like

1575
01:17:01.960 --> 01:17:04.760
<v Speaker 1>a three minute comedy bit on the anchor desk, and

1576
01:17:04.800 --> 01:17:07.880
<v Speaker 1>I like Nicki Glazer, but it just seemed out of

1577
01:17:07.880 --> 01:17:10.920
<v Speaker 1>place because there was no live audience there to hear

1578
01:17:11.039 --> 01:17:12.640
<v Speaker 1>and react just to her.

1579
01:17:12.960 --> 01:17:15.399
<v Speaker 10>I mean, thank god Belichick wasn't there to see this.

1580
01:17:15.920 --> 01:17:16.880
<v Speaker 3>He was too busy.

1581
01:17:16.640 --> 01:17:18.159
<v Speaker 10>Watching Blippy with his girlfriend.

1582
01:17:18.399 --> 01:17:19.159
<v Speaker 3>She's twenty four.

1583
01:17:20.439 --> 01:17:22.680
<v Speaker 10>You know, the Jets may have scored more points, but

1584
01:17:22.800 --> 01:17:24.960
<v Speaker 10>in the end it was the Patriots who really won

1585
01:17:25.199 --> 01:17:27.479
<v Speaker 10>because they got to leave New Jersey.

1586
01:17:27.720 --> 01:17:30.359
<v Speaker 1>Thank you again. I like Nicki Glazer, but it just

1587
01:17:30.399 --> 01:17:32.840
<v Speaker 1>seemed weird and out of place. I thought her stuff

1588
01:17:32.920 --> 01:17:36.119
<v Speaker 1>was funny, but again, so much of what's fun about

1589
01:17:36.199 --> 01:17:40.039
<v Speaker 1>a good comedian is the way the audience, the intimate audience,

1590
01:17:40.079 --> 01:17:43.479
<v Speaker 1>plays off. So ah, you know, good nice try by

1591
01:17:43.800 --> 01:17:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Amazon Prime. Thanks to Ryan Black for dropping him by.

1592
01:17:46.920 --> 01:17:49.159
<v Speaker 1>That's a good night from the garage and Lexington.

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01:17:49.359 --> 01:17:52.119
<v Speaker 10>Well, but Jets are a lot like Bruce Springsteen. They're

1594
01:17:52.119 --> 01:17:54.439
<v Speaker 10>based in New Jersey, and they've spent the last four

1595
01:17:54.439 --> 01:18:04.399
<v Speaker 10>decades making grown men cry.

1596
01:18:00.239 --> 01:18:05.520
<v Speaker 8>The build.

1597
01:18:05.000 --> 01:18:29.399
<v Speaker 2>Mass a bigger spans
