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Speaker 2: And on the Plasma consumer Dylo mus I one.

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Speaker 1: I did not go no, popped off that much as

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I was three six seconds but still pretty good. But

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then at one point, because I had to share the link,

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know why we do this, because Weekly Geek it's easy

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for me to put on the schedule, but you can

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little code names for each iteration of geek. First, as

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that's just you, me and Taylor. We have to do

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that because we never figured it out, and then we

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never forgot. We never classified every other condenptation of the

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Speaker 1: I think remutation. Yeah, I don't know where the connotation

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Dexter and I'm like, oh, another serial Kay. He's like, well,

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how you know that. I'm like well did you click

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the article? He's like, oh, well, you know me. So

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that's not just tiny folks like go out and read

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the thing for her to say, Hey, I'm not retiring,

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but what is it? Or is it again? We have

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we have a succession plan. We have an amazing bunch

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of people every intention making an announcement in months or

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a year down the road.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. That means nothing, right when it comes down to it.

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that came out two nights goes she's retiring at the

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end of twenty twenty five, and what she's saying, well,

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we have a succession plan that might come out in

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the months or a year from now, which even then,

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if she were, let's say, retire in February two thousand

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and six, I would give that Scooper credit and say like, yeah,

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that's pretty close to the end of twenty twenty five, right,

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like right, that's around then. So the only other things

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that was gonna bring up, which was funny, is she

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talked about these projects. She confirmed, Yeah, Mando and Grog's

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going going good. Oh, and that's what I was gonna

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say too. That last thing about we have an amazing

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bunch of people here. Obviously who knows that she gets

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her way. But to me, when you read through like

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the tea leaves and like between the letters, I think

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it five or someone else? I think it sounds like

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they have every intention of someone on the team, right

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or multiple people Like she's making it sound like they're

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working on a succession plan with people that are around them.

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her intention. And even that original article said that she

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wants to be like she would prefer being Folony or

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someone she's worked with right, same way George picked her.

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So they talked about the Mandaloria and Grogo movie. Whatever

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they did confirm, I'll try Oh where was that? There's

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some other good quote too about oh there's something about plans.

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go plans. There's a good quote. Okay, let's just do

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the word plan. You know, there's a lot of plans.

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I think here go so deadline ass the flurry of

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press coverage, it sounds like chaos. What's the reality, Kendy chaos?

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Question mark? There has never been any chaos because we

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know exactly what the plan is. That just made me

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fucking laugh. And we've been covering Star Wars the whole time.

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We know exactly what the plan is. There's been made

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like there's I'm sure there's been concepts of a plan,

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but not the actual plan. But the only other things here.

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the Manual Grogo movie next to film and Shawn Leavy's movie.

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and that's supposed to take place like five to six

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years after Fork Awaken Force Awakens. Then she said they

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are working on three to four things currently, and which

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was odd to me, is even down here, I'll find it?

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asked after they talked about the ones I talked about.

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She says, well, I keep waiting for Taika. He is

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working on he's working with another writer now. He's so busy. Yeah,

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I love him, blah blah blah. So what was surprised

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me was we heard the Taika movie, and then in

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this whole article she never once mentions that Ray movie,

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which I thought would be very curious because like last

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year they announced it, they said we got a writer.

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coming out, we got the Sean Leavy movie, we got

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another one, we got Taika's Ray's movie. At one point,

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I'm supposed to start filming this year, and it feels

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very odd that she not in this this Deadline article.

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Guy even at Mike even asks, hey, any other any

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other projects we haven't talked about. No, I mentioned the

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ray one. So I'm just gonna say people, we're gonna

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talk about Dazy Ridley. But later on maybe there's a

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reason we're talking about her because her schedule is gonna

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be cleared up again. So just buck up as always.

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But yeah, yeah, I just want to share that because

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there's some some stuff in there that's interesting.

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Speaker 2: But that's a I mean, I didn't read the whole thing, obviously,

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I just the bits you popped up there. But that

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is a pretty weird article, even though she's talking, is

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kind of strange, and I don't read other articles with her,

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so maybe that's part for the course, But that is uh,

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saying that there's no chaos, we know what's going on,

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seems like this article is chaotic. You can't even answer

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these questions in a regular human being way, so we'll see.

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Speaker 1: It was weird. It just felt like, hey, there's lots

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of fire, let's take a bucket throw water on it.

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But then the fire is still going because you it

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really conferred like I don't know, maybe maybe she took

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an abundance to maybe she thought out people thought she

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was retiring in general, and I just took it as

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from Luca's film or whatnot. But yeah, so look out

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for that. Who knows me Next weekly Geek, there'll be

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another article or another thing coming out. But to me,

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like Scooper said, hey, she's tiring in the next year,

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and she says, well the plant, that's not true, but

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the planet is in months or a year to come.

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I don't know if it walks like a duck quacks

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like a duck. I think it's a.

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Speaker 2: Duck, but just might be Howard.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of ducks, I know how the Duck and

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Spider Man, but I have a few Spider Man related things.

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Yeah that I would like it, but I know I

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wouldn't like that. I'd like how Duck to be in

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The Guardians four, but I don't even know if there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, someday. I mean the third one did seven hundred million.

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Speaker 1: Eight yeah, pretty close to I think it was close

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or just at eight.

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Speaker 2: Hundred million, And I think, you know, with all all

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we've heard, I think they're just going back to the

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well a little bit. They set up a lot with

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the I forget it was post credit or the final

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scene of the movie, but there's a lot charted up there,

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and then you know, at some point they're gonna need

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to get the cosmic stuff back into We've been back

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on Earth for a while, but yeah, they're gonna they're

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gonna need to do that. So at some point, But

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is it gonna be with Gun?

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Speaker 1: No, No, I don't think that's gonna happen. And I

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kind of hope they like that loser squad they introduced

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us to at the end. I kind of hope they

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like kill them off, you know, just because I don't

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know that's something.

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Speaker 2: We don't even know them yet. You don't know, do

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you know they're Loser squad.

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Speaker 1: I just saw the team and I'm like, you know,

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just Seawan Gun.

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Speaker 2: There's I mean, yeah, would Sewan gunn come back for it. No,

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you don't think so.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think you'd. I think that

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is a brother, Yeah, I don't know. I think they

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It would be fun to see.

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Speaker 2: Maybe some point you gotta fly the coop. You know,

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you gotta work on a project without your brother.

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Speaker 1: But your brother owns the other coop, So do you

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want to fly too far?

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Speaker 2: That's true, he doesn't own the coop.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So we're talking about now it's inspiremn for related

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slash rumors. So I'm gonna go I'm gonna throw three

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things here at you, Dylan. So there's a Scooper, This

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is see Tier. All these are sea tier ranging to

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Sea Tier. But you know that's what we talked about.

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So spire Man four tone rumor to be inspired by

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the Batman point of inspiration for the Aspier Man, for

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is indeed the Batman. While the Homecoming trilogy was more

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lighthearted and optimistic, Destin and Marvel will lean into that anger.

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Expect more grit and more focus on hand hand combat,

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and no multiverse villains. The film will still lead into

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secret wars, but the current priority at Marvel is making

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a grounded and more mature direction for the Web after

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the events of No Way Home and Born Again. I

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will say this now. I said this on Marble Lines

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when I came back, I haven't said on Geek. First,

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I'm a person that I have no problem talking about

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the news. I put this in here so you can

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blame me. I'm very tired of the Spider Man plot

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rumors and what's going on because I just like, I

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feel like it, cause it's.

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Speaker 2: Just like, you don't get tired of this stuff. I

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thought this fuels you.

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Speaker 1: I find if it's like we know the plot and

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then it's like who's the who's the villains, who's the casting.

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But when it's the plot, when it's like it's grounded,

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well it's multiverse. Well it's kind of a mix. Well

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it's going back to ground. It's like, like, what is

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really going on? WI? Yeah, like and this sounds great?

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Right Again, It's tough because I hear this and maybe

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they're playing Werewolf, but both and Offel and Charlie Cox's like, yeah,

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I know we're not in Spiderman form. To me, they

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said like a more disappointed way. No, I'm like Garfield

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being like, people keep but not believe me. This was

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like no, we're not, like we don't know what if

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we are, But like this sounds great and all. It's

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just also the thing that like I just don't know. One,

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like I actually don't know how true it is, but two,

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I just don't know if they can do. Like when

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I look at Destin Daniel Kranton and Sung Chi and

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he go, Okay, that guy, maybe it's something in his wheelhouse,

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but it's like he wants to be a film that's

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like The Bad Man. I almost goel like, I feel

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like that's not it doesn't like compute with me. I

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feel like it's kind of like you'd want to do,

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like what you do a song she and Sung She

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has some dark stuff in there. I don't think Sung

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She is just like all good times. Like some of

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the stuff with the Dad is pretty like dramatic, and

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there's some dark stuff there. So it's just I don't know.

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It's just like and I wouldn't mind that that's could

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be cool of you know, Tom Holmes stretching some muscles

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and he's like we're seeing a very down and out Peter.

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But again, does the world want that so well? Like

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obviously grounded. I hope that you could get like a

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Dareduvil Punisher, but even if not with that interest you have,

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like let's say we don't even get those cameras, but

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just like a Spider Man, that's very not even ground

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in the sense of no multi versus the fact of

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like he's gonna be he's gonna be depressed, like he's

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gonna be sad, he's gonna be like our boy Matt Murdock,

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he's gonna be going through. Does that interest you or

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you're like, no, Like I have other characters I want

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to see do that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, as you mentioned, we've been going on

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the freaking roundabout and this this Spider Man stuff back

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and forth, and this is one of the ones that

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I actually do really like. I've been down on some

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of the pitches up on other ones, and I do

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really like this.

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Speaker 1: The Punisher Hawk one. When I was off I listen,

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no one those oh my god, here, that's a while one,

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I was like, I don't know what they're cooking there

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when they're thinking of that idea if that's true.

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Speaker 2: So it's an idea, yeah, yeah, but no, I think

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this works. I mean, I even hearing that it's based

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on Batman. I mean I love that movie, and so

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that sounds good to me. But I do still feel

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like it would be somewhere. It would be a meeting

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in the middle between like a Marvel classic Marvel tone.

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We have had darker Marvel stuff, but a Marvel tone

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and the Batman, so it would be maybe not as

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striking of a difference. But I do think it's good

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for these characters across their different movies, especially if their

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characters like Thor and now Spider Man, who are getting

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a fourth movie, that they get some different flavor, that

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we get some different people in there. Even though I

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don't love the first two Thors, I think it's good

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that those exist in their tone. And then I got

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the Tika stuff, and some people were already kind of

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tired of it after Ragnarok, but it's like, Okay, now

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we know the next door thing is not gonna be

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Taika or it seems like it, So we're gonna get

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like a switch of tone there and something else. And

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00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,440
it's tricky to make these things consistent and make these

469
00:19:58,519 --> 00:20:01,680
characters feel like real almost become I don't know, a

470
00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,680
bit like I don't know, like a character in a

471
00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,319
play or something like I guess they feel a little

472
00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,400
bit less consistent when you do that sort of stuff,

473
00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,920
switching around directors and writers and whatnot. But I think

474
00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,119
this actually makes sense for the character of Spider Man

475
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:15,559
and the journey we went on right because of the

476
00:20:15,759 --> 00:20:17,599
place we leave off after No Way Home, it would

477
00:20:17,599 --> 00:20:19,400
make sense that's where the character should be. And that's

478
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,720
why I've been a little disappointed in hearing some of

479
00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,160
the other places we can go, because we've given ourselves

480
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:25,880
a really good reason to throw him back to street

481
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,839
level stuff. He should be sad, really really sad. He

482
00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,200
should be really messed up mentally, and so this is

483
00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,319
like the perfect time to do it, and then you can,

484
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,240
after one movie, build back up and get more of

485
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the bombastic stuff. In terms of the no multiverse angle,

486
00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:40,960
you know, I'm greedy. I want more of the Spider

487
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,119
Man Trio. I want them come back. I want my Gold,

488
00:20:44,279 --> 00:20:46,559
my Green Goblin, these characters come back too. But I

489
00:20:46,599 --> 00:20:49,000
also think there's so many other Spider Man characters and

490
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,079
places we can go within this darker universe, and we'll

491
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:53,839
have time for that. Tom Holand's young, I'm sure he's

492
00:20:53,839 --> 00:20:56,960
gonna play this character for sixty three years, so we'll

493
00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,559
have time to get to all that stuff. So he's

494
00:20:59,599 --> 00:21:01,680
like thirty, so that'd be like put him his nineties.

495
00:21:01,839 --> 00:21:02,759
Is he twenty? I don't even know.

496
00:21:02,759 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 1: Hold that guy, well, you could count the years he's

497
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,160
already put in the time though, too.

498
00:21:06,319 --> 00:21:08,119
Speaker 2: Okay, sure that's like a decade almost.

499
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, so fifty three, he'd be playing until he's eighty.

500
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Speaker 2: And you know what flips, Let's do it down. But

501
00:21:14,759 --> 00:21:16,839
but yeah, this sounds good to me. But I can

502
00:21:16,839 --> 00:21:19,799
definitely I understand why you're getting a little bit exhausted

503
00:21:19,839 --> 00:21:21,799
of this Spider Man round about.

504
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I just hope it we hear something soon

505
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,119
because the movie's supposedly out next year. I don't know

506
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:29,880
if I believe that anymore. We'll see.

507
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,519
Speaker 2: And like Tom Holland, I mean, no Way Home had

508
00:21:31,559 --> 00:21:34,680
a pretty quick turnover time or production time, like they

509
00:21:34,799 --> 00:21:36,480
kind of fast tracked it right and got it make

510
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:37,960
made it pretty quick.

511
00:21:37,799 --> 00:21:39,759
Speaker 1: They did. But I think the differences go around is

512
00:21:39,799 --> 00:21:42,559
Holland's already doing Avengers and he's doing Odyssey, so like

513
00:21:42,599 --> 00:21:45,440
he's got a busy he's got a busy summer right now.

514
00:21:46,079 --> 00:21:48,559
Speaker 2: So Avengers has been delayed and move so many times

515
00:21:48,559 --> 00:21:50,319
when is that April's.

516
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Speaker 1: Is filmed, Like, when's it come out?

517
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,799
Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, when's it filming? On's it coming out?

518
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,759
Speaker 1: Filming April? So in a couple of months and then oh.

519
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,759
Speaker 2: Wow, okay coming out. Man, that's exciting. I guess I guess.

520
00:21:59,839 --> 00:22:01,640
I still feel like that's years and years away, which

521
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,680
you know the movie will be still. But that's cool

522
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,480
that it's filming soon. Okay, that's exciting.

523
00:22:05,759 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 1: I very much worry for the effects of that movie

524
00:22:08,039 --> 00:22:12,240
with the just thirteen month turnaround to film in April

525
00:22:12,279 --> 00:22:14,640
then to be done in May, like to have a release.

526
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Speaker 2: That's yeah. I mean, maybe what we can hope is

527
00:22:16,759 --> 00:22:20,279
that the first one, the first of the two Avengers movies,

528
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,079
is a more grounded, chill situation and just pulling. The

529
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,480
second one is the insane one that you know takes

530
00:22:25,519 --> 00:22:26,880
longer and needs more time to cook.

531
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, in that in your multiverse speech that you

532
00:22:29,599 --> 00:22:31,799
mentioned Goblin, So this is not I want to bring

533
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,079
up to you that supposedly again see tier rumor that

534
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,319
they've had talks about William Dafoe to return. Now the

535
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,160
asterisk here unlike the next news coming up is they

536
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,839
didn't say for SPIERMN four. It was just a return,

537
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,200
so obviously that could be this, that could be Secret Wars.

538
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:47,559
I'm not sure if they want to use Norman, he

539
00:22:47,599 --> 00:22:50,160
would be him going forward. I was gonna ask you,

540
00:22:50,319 --> 00:22:52,599
do you also be love to Foe? But in no

541
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,279
way home you know, they bring him back, he's the

542
00:22:55,279 --> 00:22:57,759
main villain of that. They kind of save him in

543
00:22:57,799 --> 00:22:59,680
a way, right, like they take the goblin out of him.

544
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,519
Do you foresee, like do you want that character back

545
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,359
or would you be fine if they said, like, hey,

546
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,799
just like Jay Jonah Jameson, if we do Norman in

547
00:23:07,839 --> 00:23:10,440
our universe, we just want Dafoe to play him again.

548
00:23:10,559 --> 00:23:12,880
Like if they sit you down, I say, hey, we

549
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,559
no matter what Dafoe's coming back, do you have a

550
00:23:15,599 --> 00:23:17,680
preference on how they would use him?

551
00:23:18,319 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean good point because I did mention him.

552
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,400
I I did mention him in my in my speech there,

553
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,240
But I don't know if he actually is one of

554
00:23:25,279 --> 00:23:27,559
the ones I would want most, just like for story

555
00:23:27,559 --> 00:23:30,440
wise of course, like the fanboy and me would like, yes,

556
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,799
I'll take it because he's always great. He always brings

557
00:23:32,839 --> 00:23:34,920
it no matter what movie he's doing, even if it's

558
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,400
some weird crappy movie. Will is like the star, He's

559
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,480
always a highlight. My thought when I when I read

560
00:23:41,519 --> 00:23:45,599
that was maybe doctor Strange, right, the next one there, uh,

561
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,000
maybe darker. Maybe that could be like the next multiversal thing.

562
00:23:49,079 --> 00:23:51,160
We've got the dark dimension stuff. He's probably gonna be

563
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,400
scooting around different dimensions. I don't I guess he didn't

564
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,559
really have a scene explicitly with Goblin like he was

565
00:23:56,599 --> 00:23:57,960
in that final scene in No Way Home.

566
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,160
Speaker 1: Hit him with a pumpkin bomb. That was about it.

567
00:24:00,599 --> 00:24:02,839
Speaker 2: Okay, I can't even remember this pumpkin bomb. But at

568
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,240
least there's like there's fragments there, right, set up for

569
00:24:06,319 --> 00:24:09,599
potentially some rivalry between them, even if it is just

570
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,680
like a smaller sequence of the movie, one one sort

571
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,880
of sequence. But other than that, like, I don't really

572
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,039
see any storyline that if the top my head makes

573
00:24:18,039 --> 00:24:20,039
sense for him to pop in other than like of

574
00:24:20,039 --> 00:24:22,079
course Spider Man, right, So I don't know, do you

575
00:24:22,079 --> 00:24:23,640
have any pictures for that? Is there a project I'm

576
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:24,880
forgetting about that would be a good.

577
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 1: Like obviously like the dumb Ones, just like Secret Wars, right,

578
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,880
because like, well yeah, who can we get? But like

579
00:24:30,079 --> 00:24:32,599
what am iays gonna ask you in the situation, which

580
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,240
which is weird when Okay, so they get the gold

581
00:24:35,279 --> 00:24:37,000
and juice at of him and he's a normal guy

582
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,599
and they send him back to his universe. Do we

583
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,160
think we're gonna get a little tripper here? You told

584
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,160
MacGuire's Spearman, right. Do you think those are two separate times? Now?

585
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,519
Where told McGuire is you know he's lived, Harry's died,

586
00:24:49,559 --> 00:24:52,000
Norman died and he goes back or is it that

587
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,440
Norman turning good like changed a bunch of stuff in

588
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:56,079
his world?

589
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 2: Because oh, I see my butterfly effect of it all.

590
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, because my only pitch is what I want obviously

591
00:25:02,319 --> 00:25:04,480
with Spiderman for off its grounded. Who knows. But if

592
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,519
we're doing multiverse again, I've always said, like I would

593
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,920
like to do the verse where he goes to their

594
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,640
worlds now, so we can meet Kirsten Dunnce and we

595
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,759
meet this stuff. So that's where I could see. Let's

596
00:25:13,759 --> 00:25:15,839
say there's a movie where he goes to Toby Maguire's

597
00:25:15,839 --> 00:25:18,720
world and to foees there but like as like not

598
00:25:18,799 --> 00:25:21,480
a good guy, but he's not like crazy Storm and

599
00:25:21,559 --> 00:25:23,640
Norman like the Goblin. Like I think that could be

600
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,039
cool if he's a scientist, he's helping out. But I

601
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,200
just I wonder I kind of felt like No Way

602
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,680
Home was a one shot deal as far as like

603
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,200
a multiverse Norman of like that was that's what you

604
00:25:34,279 --> 00:25:36,519
did and you killed them off. You killed goble off.

605
00:25:36,519 --> 00:25:39,160
I'll say, not normal, but you killed Goblin off. That's it,

606
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,519
Like you don't get to do it again. I guess

607
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,160
if you were to, if I were sitting down and

608
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,000
just say, hey, we don't really think an actor could

609
00:25:46,079 --> 00:25:47,960
do this. We just want him to do it again.

610
00:25:48,599 --> 00:25:50,319
That could be fun. But then I need to see,

611
00:25:50,319 --> 00:25:53,039
like what is the pitch of that? Because I Holland

612
00:25:53,039 --> 00:25:56,599
would know what happens to Norman, right, so you you

613
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,359
can't do the whole thing again, like oh he takes

614
00:25:59,519 --> 00:26:01,759
Norman and or you know Peter In is like a

615
00:26:01,799 --> 00:26:04,799
son figure and then all my guys Goblin like how

616
00:26:04,839 --> 00:26:06,599
old is da phone now? Because I just don't know

617
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,000
if he would have the age, where would he have

618
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,440
a son like hair? Like he's sixty nine. Anybody could

619
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,759
I guess could have kids when they're sixty nine. He's

620
00:26:13,799 --> 00:26:16,400
sixty nine. He looks great, But like I don't think

621
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,039
you could do the thing where like Peter's in college

622
00:26:18,039 --> 00:26:20,000
and he meets Harry, He's like, oh, here's my dad,

623
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,839
Like yeah, here's my grandpa. But like, I just don't

624
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,759
other than them going to New Toby's universe and like

625
00:26:27,799 --> 00:26:30,039
a actual real life normany.

626
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 2: You would you actually want that though, Like.

627
00:26:32,319 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 1: Yes, but the studios would. I think that'd be very

628
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,079
cool if they kept it secret. And let's say Tom

629
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,359
Holmes and Peter's world and like a movie.

630
00:26:40,039 --> 00:26:41,559
Speaker 2: Would that be like a fun scene or is that

631
00:26:41,599 --> 00:26:42,839
like action scenes.

632
00:26:42,799 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: Just a scene just like just to be yeah, Piter

633
00:26:45,079 --> 00:26:46,640
just being like, oh, I know how somebody that can help.

634
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,240
And then you walk in and you see Norman and

635
00:26:48,279 --> 00:26:51,000
you think, oh, you're what's going on here? But they explain, no,

636
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:52,799
you know, since we hit him with that juice thing,

637
00:26:52,839 --> 00:26:55,119
like he's still been good, he's just a scientist again,

638
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,200
and he helps him out. Like I literally think it's

639
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,599
just like a the way Howard Stark would an endgame

640
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,599
for a scene with Danny something like that. But I

641
00:27:02,599 --> 00:27:04,440
don't think that's what they would want Marvel. I don't

642
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,079
think they would like want to foe just pick oh

643
00:27:07,079 --> 00:27:09,119
we want to come back, just to be nice Norman, you.

644
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,599
Speaker 2: Know, and especially the surprise of him coming back has

645
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,559
already happened, and it's been like what would be you know,

646
00:27:15,839 --> 00:27:17,880
kind of objectively a more exciting way, So to like

647
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,960
go to do something like that, I don't know. I

648
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,440
guess I'm not buying. I'm sure you could write a

649
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,000
great scripture on that, but I don't. I don't know

650
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,759
if off the top of my head I want that pitch.

651
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,559
I don't want him to go to their worlds.

652
00:27:28,759 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: Yo, you don't want Holme and Old go to their worlds?

653
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 2: I don't think.

654
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 1: So, No, Okay, how do we how do we meet

655
00:27:33,759 --> 00:27:37,960
MJ then and stuff like that, or like maybe a uh,

656
00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:41,279
Gwen Stacy if she's alive again, Like I'm a stone,

657
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:42,400
you know, I don't think we're.

658
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,599
Speaker 2: She's already dead. So I think that ship.

659
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,559
Speaker 1: Is multiverse stuff, you know, they bring her back.

660
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 2: I mean I think if you do a multiverse stuff,

661
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,000
you just have her play the character without any ties

662
00:27:51,039 --> 00:27:53,839
to that movie, right, she just actually is in the

663
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,640
suit and everything, and you just kind of we just

664
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:56,799
kind of roll with it for fun.

665
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,079
Speaker 1: Is that what they And that's the thing to me, like,

666
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,799
are you interest said? If they go Okay, so he's

667
00:28:01,839 --> 00:28:04,880
non in Tobe McGuire's world, and he's non Holmes world.

668
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,759
We're just gonna, let's say, in Secret Wars there's a

669
00:28:06,799 --> 00:28:08,480
bunch of villains that pop out of pearls with to

670
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,079
fight and it's just like another William Dafoux green goblin.

671
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,160
It's just green Goblin again like that. To me, I

672
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,160
don't want because that that feels like we're getting.

673
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 2: Into It feels like chuck that into Secret Wars. We

674
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,599
don't need that in another spidy movie.

675
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 1: But I don't even I don't even want them Secret

676
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,160
Wars because I think we're getting bottom of the barrel

677
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,440
of like we're just like, oh, Dafoe's a name, just

678
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,920
put him in there, like that's just like, well, we

679
00:28:30,039 --> 00:28:31,799
just had him as a goblin, you know, Like.

680
00:28:31,759 --> 00:28:32,839
Speaker 2: It's just yeah.

681
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,319
Speaker 1: So it feels weird to see this news and be

682
00:28:35,519 --> 00:28:38,799
like to see, oh, Defolk isn't talks for something, But

683
00:28:38,839 --> 00:28:40,440
for me to actually get excited, it's like I'm not

684
00:28:40,559 --> 00:28:43,200
actually And that's the weird thing. I don't know. I

685
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,079
don't think there's a rule, and I think there's times

686
00:28:45,119 --> 00:28:47,240
where we could move on. I think if they do

687
00:28:47,319 --> 00:28:49,400
normally m so you get get a new guy. You know,

688
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,680
I think, uh, you know, I've said, like we reviewed

689
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,359
you can check it out. We reviewed all the Friendly

690
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:59,599
Neighborhood SPIERMN episodes. Coleman Domingo, that's perfect, you tell me tomorrow. Yeah,

691
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,839
why Norman perfect done? Like, I think there's lots of

692
00:29:02,839 --> 00:29:05,000
great actors, and I don't think Dafoe's at the stage

693
00:29:05,039 --> 00:29:07,319
of his career he's gonna like care Like I think

694
00:29:07,319 --> 00:29:09,319
he was just happy to come back for No Way

695
00:29:09,359 --> 00:29:11,079
Home and like he got to be the main villain

696
00:29:11,119 --> 00:29:13,039
of that, you know, like that he was the showcase.

697
00:29:13,079 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean I I think that's a very

698
00:29:15,559 --> 00:29:17,400
mature take of you, Travis. Actually, I think a lot

699
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,160
of people would be like, mindless fanboy. Yeah, I'll take it.

700
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,680
But I think that's that's like you're going to step

701
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,599
beyond and looking if it would actually make sense or

702
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,079
add to that character or Spidey, And I just I

703
00:29:28,079 --> 00:29:30,480
think you're right that I don't think it really would. Now,

704
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,440
I'm sure there's a writer, a really great writer who

705
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,039
could make it happen and it would be magical. But yeah,

706
00:29:35,039 --> 00:29:36,960
I feel like we're set up to be in a new,

707
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,000
interesting place and I just want them to stick that

708
00:29:39,119 --> 00:29:41,640
landing before we get too carried away with other stuff.

709
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: And don't prop me up too much because, don't get

710
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,000
me wrong, I want ben Affleck Daredevil to pop out

711
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,079
in this scene randomly.

712
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 2: Has a little more it's a little more justified. Yeah, Goblin,

713
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,359
it's like that's still you can go there Disney Plus

714
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:55,240
and watch that right now.

715
00:29:55,319 --> 00:29:57,759
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Like I'm just trying to think of anything

716
00:29:57,759 --> 00:29:59,720
like or like, I don't know, is there a way

717
00:29:59,759 --> 00:30:02,400
where or he can be like a good Goblin and

718
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,319
he's on the team this time, and that to me

719
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,200
doesn't I don't want good Goblin, you know, like that

720
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,799
doesn't sound fun to me like.

721
00:30:07,759 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 2: That, although you know what, you know, what I'm vision

722
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,480
right now is just green Goblin in the suit, the

723
00:30:12,519 --> 00:30:15,160
full suit, right next to Downy in the in the

724
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,519
doom suit. And I feel like that duo would be badass,

725
00:30:18,599 --> 00:30:21,119
like the Green the Green duo there.

726
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: That could be kind of fun if we have see

727
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,319
now there's maybe something there where you have Steve potentially

728
00:30:27,359 --> 00:30:30,839
being hydrocap right, and you have Doomsday like or Downy

729
00:30:30,839 --> 00:30:33,799
being Doomsday. If you had a couple other Marvel villains

730
00:30:33,839 --> 00:30:35,519
now this time they're on the hero side. So you

731
00:30:35,559 --> 00:30:38,200
have like a green Goblin that is good. He's like

732
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,799
he's like the Hulk, like he's like managed his powers,

733
00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:42,319
but then he's going up against like a down he

734
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,480
was evil, Like there's a fun Or if.

735
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,799
Speaker 2: The idea for Doom is like, Okay, I gotta I

736
00:30:46,799 --> 00:30:51,000
gotta get my crew of my roster. Here are like

737
00:30:51,039 --> 00:30:53,039
the people who can take down my opponents. And he

738
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,960
knows that Goblin knows how to take down Spidey, you know,

739
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,039
so and so knows how to take down Doctor Strange

740
00:30:59,079 --> 00:31:01,000
like that kind of thing. Yeah, But then again it

741
00:31:01,079 --> 00:31:03,200
was like, since we don't even know who our Avengers

742
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,000
team are, it's like hard to talk too much about

743
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,680
what that pictu would look like. Oh I know, but

744
00:31:06,839 --> 00:31:09,079
and that also maybe blows the proportion of what I

745
00:31:09,079 --> 00:31:11,599
think that Doom movie is gonna be, which is where

746
00:31:11,599 --> 00:31:14,519
I think that's the big spot where that stuff would happen.

747
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, Or what if it was a reverse What if

748
00:31:16,359 --> 00:31:18,720
Doom was like for some reason, because sometimes Doom has

749
00:31:18,759 --> 00:31:20,680
a hero complex. What if he's going around killing some

750
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,200
of the multi verses, like biggest villains out there, like

751
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,000
because he's worried they might be a threat to him,

752
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,559
like he kills like Fanos in a universe and he

753
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,240
kills Green Goblin in a universe. I don't think we're

754
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,960
gonna get that because that's something touch of montage, but

755
00:31:33,119 --> 00:31:36,119
like you know, so, because I do think we're gonna

756
00:31:36,119 --> 00:31:40,240
get because I with this picture of Green Goblin. I

757
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,759
I'm not gonna say one hundred percent. I'm fifty one

758
00:31:43,839 --> 00:31:46,400
percent sure that Thanos will be in one of these

759
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,480
Vengers movies and he's gonna be a good guy this time.

760
00:31:48,519 --> 00:31:50,559
Though I think they're gonna make the story fifty one

761
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,480
fifty one, I don't. I'm a fifty to fifty, so

762
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,240
I'm I'm on the yes for fifty one because I

763
00:31:55,279 --> 00:31:59,359
just feel like what's more intriguing than Thanos having like

764
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,559
someone being or some Thanos and he has to go

765
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,039
up against him because uh Me and Tarior talk about

766
00:32:04,079 --> 00:32:05,160
this a couple of weeks ago, but I kind of

767
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,319
want like the Dead Man Tales Barbosa thing right, where

768
00:32:08,519 --> 00:32:11,119
Barbosa main mel in the first one, but because what's

769
00:32:11,119 --> 00:32:13,440
his name Dave Jones was so bad, they're forced to

770
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,920
work with Barbosa, right, so imagine that they find it again.

771
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,720
I've always said, Thanos isn't dead. He just got snapped away.

772
00:32:18,759 --> 00:32:20,839
You can bring him back. All those snap people didn't die,

773
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,640
they were just like floating around somewhere.

774
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, but now then they need to get another gauntlet

775
00:32:28,519 --> 00:32:29,240
and read.

776
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,359
Speaker 1: Go to TVA. There's tons of those, right, Look at.

777
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: All those sounds, those inert stones. Yeah, that's an interesting

778
00:32:36,759 --> 00:32:39,039
to me. That feels too soon. I also like, I

779
00:32:39,039 --> 00:32:41,079
don't want to taint that era, you know that that

780
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,000
msue Ara is just it's not perfect, of course, but

781
00:32:44,119 --> 00:32:46,319
it's I don't I just don't want to ruin any

782
00:32:46,319 --> 00:32:48,680
of it. I want to keep it in its little cage,

783
00:32:48,799 --> 00:32:50,680
locked up on the shelf. You know, Taylor got all

784
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,119
his Black Series figures like keep them in the box,

785
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,079
you know, I think that's kind of my thought there.

786
00:32:55,119 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: Do they already not do that with Skull Rody though.

787
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:03,319
Speaker 2: You know, like already on Skull Rody, know they have,

788
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,319
That's the thing. But the more you do it, the

789
00:33:05,319 --> 00:33:07,839
more I go back to these movies and I'm frustrated

790
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,119
about this stuff. And I haven't done a rewatch since

791
00:33:10,119 --> 00:33:12,240
the Skull Rody reveal, but I'm sure that'll piss me

792
00:33:12,279 --> 00:33:14,680
off in certain scenes and I'm like, yeah, as doesn't

793
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,480
hit the same anymore or not that don Cheetah was,

794
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,400
you know, my tier one character anyway, but he's in

795
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:21,440
it a lot.

796
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: He's on the Tier one team, That's what I'd say.

797
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he has the amount of appearances of a

798
00:33:26,279 --> 00:33:26,880
Tier one.

799
00:33:26,799 --> 00:33:30,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I think there's something like

800
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,519
you do Doomsday something, do something similar to Infinny where

801
00:33:33,519 --> 00:33:36,680
where Doomsday wins, kills or takes a lot of our heroes,

802
00:33:37,039 --> 00:33:38,880
and when you have like a very little team, Oh,

803
00:33:39,079 --> 00:33:41,640
we need we need something, and someone's like, oh, I

804
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,039
know an idea and then just like Thanos walking out

805
00:33:44,079 --> 00:33:47,039
like you know that, or you get to see Thanos

806
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,119
and like willing to foe working together. I don't know

807
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,599
what that could be there now. I'm just pitching the

808
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,359
thunderbolts though, which would be like a very ex sense

809
00:33:54,359 --> 00:33:55,119
of thunderbolts.

810
00:33:55,119 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 2: But it's funny when when you're talking about this now

811
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,599
and with that perspective, Green Boblin feels so inconsequential. It's like, yes,

812
00:34:01,799 --> 00:34:04,519
has he ever really been that powerful? Like not really?

813
00:34:04,559 --> 00:34:06,319
When you compared him to some of these bigger villains

814
00:34:06,319 --> 00:34:07,920
that we've had, It's like, what would he be doing

815
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,559
on the roster for either Doom hiring him to help

816
00:34:10,599 --> 00:34:12,840
take out the heroes or even the heroes wanting to

817
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,360
recruit him to take out the bad guy. It's like,

818
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,559
it's just Goblin. He's kind of kind of a low

819
00:34:16,599 --> 00:34:18,639
tier in terms of actual power level, although he has

820
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,320
had some consequential pills. I guess yeah, maybe they just

821
00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:24,159
against like the really powerful people. He goes for the

822
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,440
heart picks instead of the power picks.

823
00:34:26,519 --> 00:34:28,079
Speaker 1: But like I said, no at home, he did manage

824
00:34:28,079 --> 00:34:30,320
to like knock out Doctor Strange with a pumpkin ball

825
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:31,639
one time because he like hides in.

826
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,119
Speaker 2: Okay, that is very impressive because Doctor Strange is one

827
00:34:34,119 --> 00:34:35,599
of the higher power level guys.

828
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: Because Goblin has like I don't know if so.

829
00:34:38,559 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 2: In video games, unpredictable, which is for anyone that's gonna

830
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:42,239
be a challenge.

831
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:43,559
Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna say. Video games, you know,

832
00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:45,559
lots of characters have like the luck stat. He is

833
00:34:45,599 --> 00:34:48,760
the tricky stat like Villain's got the trickster or it's

834
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,280
not low key level, you know, tricks to God. But

835
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,760
like Goblin is like at least like i'd say a

836
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,800
minimum a that ten on that scale. And the trick.

837
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,679
Speaker 2: We also because he has the two minds to him,

838
00:34:59,679 --> 00:35:02,159
I feel like his stats like change every hour, right,

839
00:35:02,199 --> 00:35:05,199
so it's like he might have eight intelligence four dextera,

840
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,000
but in the next hour that could like switch back

841
00:35:07,039 --> 00:35:09,239
and forth. And that's that's hard to contend with when

842
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,360
so much of these movies are like, Okay, let's build

843
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,559
the plan to like take out this villain. You know,

844
00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:15,880
we're gonna bait Venom over to these bars and then

845
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,199
smack the bars and it'll be really loud, like I

846
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,159
don't know. If they're constantly changing, that's it's hard to

847
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:21,920
tack them down.

848
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 1: Problem is Norman Osborne his luck stats zero zero zero

849
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,280
and the luck stats just normal himself because he became

850
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:29,280
golf but right, so.

851
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's Sean have some luck. You never know

852
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,800
exactly what it does, but you want it still. That's

853
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:35,599
one of those stats.

854
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of I got nothing to go here. We

855
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,679
spoke about it earlier. Daisy Ridley, there's a rumor going

856
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,320
around that she's a spider Man for now, I don't know.

857
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,079
Me and Tara talked about this a couple weeks ago.

858
00:35:48,159 --> 00:35:49,800
We went down a list of potentials. This kind of

859
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,639
fits with I don't know if this would be the character,

860
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,000
but there was rumors that they're looking at a new

861
00:35:55,039 --> 00:35:57,360
love interest. I think there's a double thing of one

862
00:35:57,679 --> 00:36:00,079
they want to go in a new direction. But I

863
00:36:00,119 --> 00:36:02,800
think it's also that Zenda is just like soup. Like

864
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,039
the new rumor is with Spiderman that she's gonna be

865
00:36:05,039 --> 00:36:07,440
in there for like a cup of coffee, because she's

866
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,719
doing Honestly, she's doing she's doing something. She's doing check five,

867
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,119
she's doing something else. She's like, oh, you're four three

868
00:36:14,199 --> 00:36:17,679
right now, Like she's at some point she no legitimately,

869
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,159
they're filming Dune three, I think at the end of

870
00:36:19,199 --> 00:36:21,400
the year, so like she's like booked up. So I

871
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,360
think that's the idea. So I want to ask you again,

872
00:36:24,519 --> 00:36:27,440
go back to the Plasma Boys spending retrospective. Is there

873
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,559
any even if she's not the female, a love interest

874
00:36:29,639 --> 00:36:33,440
between that the video games? Is there any character that

875
00:36:33,679 --> 00:36:37,440
Daisy Reley screams out to you of playing this Night

876
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,000
that I've never watched the movie? I think, Briggs, did

877
00:36:40,039 --> 00:36:42,960
did you ever watch that Chaos Walking movie? Remember back

878
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,480
in the day of the early days of geek First

879
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,679
where it was like announced for twenty sixteen. I got

880
00:36:46,679 --> 00:36:49,320
delayed like three years in Row. I've never watched that one.

881
00:36:49,599 --> 00:36:53,199
It's like her, Tom holland Mad's Michelson. It's something like.

882
00:36:53,639 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask. I thought there was a movie

883
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,559
that her and Tom Holland already in together, but I

884
00:36:57,599 --> 00:37:00,079
couldn't remember what it was. But there you go, Chaos, Chaos.

885
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 1: And I've never seen it, and I think saw and

886
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:07,119
she was like, nah, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't waste

887
00:37:07,159 --> 00:37:09,480
your time on this. But I still want to because

888
00:37:09,519 --> 00:37:12,840
it's like a movie with Holland, Ridley and Mad's Michelson,

889
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,679
Like there has to be something in there enjoyable. But yeah,

890
00:37:15,679 --> 00:37:18,440
is there any spidy character that you'd like? You know?

891
00:37:18,599 --> 00:37:21,320
And honestly, I do believe this rumor has some merit

892
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,719
because if Ray at at one point Ray wasn't filming

893
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,159
until next year, if Kathleen Kenny's not even talking about it,

894
00:37:28,159 --> 00:37:30,000
I don't even know where that is on the board,

895
00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:32,280
So go do something. But is there anyone that jumps

896
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:32,639
out to you?

897
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,039
Speaker 2: I got a pitch. My pitch is and I google this.

898
00:37:36,039 --> 00:37:39,199
This has been a relationship in the comics. I mean

899
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,039
almost all I feel like characters have shocked up at

900
00:37:42,079 --> 00:37:44,199
some point, So I don't know how much that proves.

901
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,079
But here's my pitch, Kitty Pride X Men character.

902
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,559
Speaker 1: Kitty Pride, I do want that the problem and I

903
00:37:51,639 --> 00:37:53,400
want to say the problem is because I don't want

904
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:54,840
to be that guy. But how old is she.

905
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: Kitty Pride?

906
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: Or she's thirty two? The good thing is Daisy Ridley,

907
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,440
he looks young. I think it just all depends on

908
00:38:04,599 --> 00:38:06,639
how young these X Men people are, because if they're

909
00:38:06,679 --> 00:38:09,199
going to Sadie Sync in that age, they're all like twenties.

910
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,480
So that's where I'd say it doesn't work. But as

911
00:38:11,519 --> 00:38:14,079
the actual casting, I like the casting. She would make

912
00:38:14,119 --> 00:38:16,519
a good uh. And is she? Is she a part

913
00:38:16,519 --> 00:38:18,360
of the X Men? Do they mention said X Men?

914
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:23,119
Speaker 2: Or she's just yeah? I guess we've we've really started

915
00:38:23,199 --> 00:38:26,119
laying it down with Miss Marvel and the mutant DNA.

916
00:38:26,199 --> 00:38:30,800
We have Adamantium now from Braving New World, so we

917
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,880
have Wolverine, you know, kind of sort of in this

918
00:38:33,079 --> 00:38:35,719
somewhere in this six months well not really six months,

919
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,000
who the hell he's right now?

920
00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:40,280
Speaker 1: But they're gonna they're all gonna meet up and stuff.

921
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,679
Speaker 2: They're tickling. They're tickling the edges there. Why I worded

922
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,920
it that way, But I think that could be another

923
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,480
good step because you know so many ways they could

924
00:38:47,519 --> 00:38:49,639
go with X Men, but one thing it always feels

925
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,280
overwhelming is man. There's so many characters that you do.

926
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,239
How do you do it? Do you trickle it out

927
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,519
through other projects? Do you just blast it all in

928
00:38:57,559 --> 00:38:59,559
the first X Men movie? And I feel like, because

929
00:38:59,599 --> 00:39:01,679
the MC was set up as it is, and they

930
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,119
know everyone's gonna see spider Man, maybe that is a

931
00:39:04,119 --> 00:39:07,480
good way to break it down, get the hype building

932
00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:11,039
for an X Men thing. Uh so yeah, and so

933
00:39:11,119 --> 00:39:12,760
maybe it gets mentioned. I don't think it's a part

934
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,360
of the plot. I don't think like he goes the

935
00:39:14,679 --> 00:39:18,000
X Mansion to recr I think she just maybe she

936
00:39:18,039 --> 00:39:20,199
doesn't even say x Men. Maybe she just mentions like

937
00:39:20,559 --> 00:39:23,199
Iceman or something, you know, some other random character back

938
00:39:23,199 --> 00:39:25,400
at the mansion. Well maybe one of them comes to

939
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,320
help in a fight. I don't know, but like you know,

940
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,400
it's not an X Men movie, like it is more

941
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,119
about them. But I I think that could be a

942
00:39:31,119 --> 00:39:33,840
good pitch. I think they could have interesting power usage

943
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,519
with each other, so that could be kind of fun.

944
00:39:36,119 --> 00:39:39,400
Uh yeah, that's my pitch. I think it could be interesting.

945
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,960
I think the ages as you're mentioning maybe slightly off,

946
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,920
but I think it passes still.

947
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would be completely unoriginal. And what I would

948
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,480
do is steal two things from two O their Spider

949
00:39:49,639 --> 00:39:54,400
Man movies, where for Homecoming, I would not reveal her name.

950
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,039
I would say she's like, her name's like Caitlin, but

951
00:39:57,119 --> 00:39:59,760
then like she shortens it to Kitty Pride, so like

952
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,639
a first like we don't okay, like the way MJ was,

953
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,400
what was she was? What was what was Zendy in

954
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,639
the first Wasn't it just Michelle in the first movie? Right?

955
00:40:08,639 --> 00:40:10,960
They just called him? And then she's like my friends

956
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,880
called me MJ. So I wouldn't do that for the

957
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,639
end of the movie, but I'd say for till you

958
00:40:14,679 --> 00:40:17,840
do a trailer or even in the movie, like just say, okay,

959
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,920
it's Caitlyn. It's some I don't know what's short for kitty,

960
00:40:21,079 --> 00:40:24,400
but like whatever Kitty might do, you know. And then

961
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:28,639
I would also steal into the Spider verse where Spider

962
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,519
like when Stacy's in the school doing stuff and she

963
00:40:31,519 --> 00:40:33,159
has a mission, but then halfway through the movie. She

964
00:40:33,199 --> 00:40:35,880
busts out her powers. That's what I do is Tom

965
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,760
Hollan needs this girl one way another college, new job.

966
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 2: It probably makes sense, although I don't know if he's

967
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:43,719
going to college, but maybe.

968
00:40:43,519 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Daily Bugle then, right, they could both be.

969
00:40:45,519 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 2: Like The Bugle.

970
00:40:46,519 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, work, she gets it.

971
00:40:48,079 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 2: She gets really good camera shots. She can go visible

972
00:40:51,519 --> 00:40:53,400
and sneak in or can she go in visible? She can?

973
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:53,559
Speaker 1: Right?

974
00:40:53,679 --> 00:40:57,199
Speaker 2: Is that a thing she has? Either way? She through walls. Yeah,

975
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:58,599
that's a good way. You know, we always said we

976
00:40:58,599 --> 00:41:01,000
wanted to fly in the wall on these like CEO

977
00:41:01,079 --> 00:41:03,280
investor meetings. She can. She can do that. She can

978
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:04,119
get in there real quick.

979
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that that's what I would do with that.

980
00:41:07,519 --> 00:41:10,840
And then other than that, I don't know, Like I

981
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,400
don't think. I guess I kind of forget. The Daily

982
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,880
Bugle is kind of a super like Alex Jones right

983
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,239
wing thing in the MCU, right, like Jk's not like

984
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:24,440
it's not the picture guys, I don't know what works there. Yeah,

985
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:25,599
you can't do Betty Brandt.

986
00:41:26,199 --> 00:41:29,519
Speaker 2: I don't we already have Betty, right, isn't one of.

987
00:41:29,519 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: The we do have Betty Brandt?

988
00:41:31,039 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like she's the one on like the doing

989
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,119
the Newscast's the.

990
00:41:34,039 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 1: Blonde from Nice Guys and the Mean Girls remake.

991
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,599
Speaker 2: She's the Nice Guys and the Mean Girls?

992
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,639
Speaker 1: Is it me? Yeah? It is Mean Girls, Yeah she is.

993
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,719
I don't know what's next for her, but okay, I

994
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,159
guess you're right. So Betty's gone. But you know what,

995
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,679
I guess right there? We made with ned stupid story

996
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,119
of her, remember her Ned? They did that stupid trip

997
00:41:53,159 --> 00:41:54,079
and then they broke up.

998
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 2: I did forget about that, but yeah, just came back.

999
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,760
I just couldn't think of another classic Spider Man character

1000
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,639
that I know of that she really fits with. So

1001
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,400
that's where I was struggling and going outside of the classics.

1002
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,079
Speaker 1: So my pitch for her is because yeah, and I

1003
00:42:09,119 --> 00:42:11,320
don't see her as I don't see her as Gwen

1004
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,000
like not even because the hair, I just like, it's

1005
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,599
not the right type of vibe, even Gwen State like

1006
00:42:15,679 --> 00:42:17,280
Spider Gwen's Like, No, I don't think it's the type

1007
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,920
of right vibe. Same thing as Black Cat, Like, I

1008
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,920
don't think that's the right vibe for me. The one

1009
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,960
I was jumping to was maybe Silver Sable because she

1010
00:42:25,039 --> 00:42:27,239
has a movie coming out this month or something called

1011
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,119
like The Cleaner or something like that where she's like

1012
00:42:29,199 --> 00:42:32,159
a hit woman. So I wonder if it's like a

1013
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,360
well and if I've heard she's good and I don't

1014
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,320
know how good, but like maybe that's something where it's

1015
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,679
like just a badass, just like Assassin or like runner

1016
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:40,159
of something.

1017
00:42:40,199 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 2: She doesn't powers right, like you know, I don't think stamina.

1018
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,519
Speaker 1: I think she's just like a Nick Fury, like like

1019
00:42:47,639 --> 00:42:49,760
Widow where it's just like she's good at a bunch

1020
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,079
of stuff. But I could see her being that hard

1021
00:42:52,159 --> 00:42:55,480
nosed type of person. But other than that, I don't know. Like, actually,

1022
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,039
you know what I would love them to do, but

1023
00:42:57,079 --> 00:42:59,000
they wouldn't do it. I would love them to do,

1024
00:42:59,199 --> 00:43:02,679
uh live off how Spider Verse had that the female

1025
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,960
doc oc I think that would be cool because that's

1026
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,800
the way where it's like the same thing like Oka.

1027
00:43:08,119 --> 00:43:10,079
Speaker 2: Does she have the gusto for that role? You think?

1028
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1029
00:43:11,559 --> 00:43:15,039
Speaker 2: Actually I haven't seen her in non Star Wars stuff

1030
00:43:15,039 --> 00:43:17,920
other than like The Orient Express I think, or whatever.

1031
00:43:19,199 --> 00:43:21,519
Speaker 1: Again, I haven't seen Apparently she's in a movie last

1032
00:43:21,559 --> 00:43:23,679
year that there was an indie drum really good. I

1033
00:43:23,679 --> 00:43:26,480
think it's like, uh, I wish I was dying or

1034
00:43:26,519 --> 00:43:30,000
I like the sound of dying or something.

1035
00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:32,119
Speaker 2: Dying sounds like an acting actor.

1036
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: Yes, it's very much an independent you know. And then

1037
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,719
she played someone where she was a swimmer and it

1038
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,000
was like a very dramatic movie. But that's why i'd

1039
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,800
like to test like the Gusto of like, because that role,

1040
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,559
you gotta be a little charming, which I think Daisy

1041
00:43:43,599 --> 00:43:46,199
Ridley could be. You gotta be badass. You guys seem smart,

1042
00:43:46,199 --> 00:43:48,159
which I think you could be. But then it's like

1043
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,519
for like the cheesy, over the top stuff. I don't know,

1044
00:43:50,559 --> 00:43:52,320
but I would just love them to be like, Okay,

1045
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,719
we don't maybe want to do a male DOCCCK, we

1046
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,400
just do that how we do well, let's do live

1047
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,039
And I feel like the look, I don't think she'll

1048
00:43:58,079 --> 00:44:01,039
have the Spider verse like crazy hair by, like maybe

1049
00:44:01,039 --> 00:44:04,119
she's a Felm scientist and you know Peter that way

1050
00:44:04,159 --> 00:44:06,199
and you don't even got to do a romantic thing.

1051
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,760
But yeah, I don't know. I feel like we've many

1052
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,800
years talked about being in the MCU, and I would

1053
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,320
like it to happen because I.

1054
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 2: Don't think you're not given that, you know, you don't

1055
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,840
want Norman back because we just had him in No

1056
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:20,559
Way Home, Like you don't feel that way even if

1057
00:44:20,599 --> 00:44:22,960
we did the I guess the gender gender swamp of

1058
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:24,960
auto even though we just got him in No Way

1059
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:25,840
Home as well, not.

1060
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 1: Really, because I guess that's why I don't think they

1061
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,199
would do it. I think you're right they like maybe

1062
00:44:30,199 --> 00:44:31,599
they do it on spaces.

1063
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,119
Speaker 2: Like Spider Verse also did it recently.

1064
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if it's too much. I think

1065
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,559
five or six where it's like they're they're way down

1066
00:44:37,599 --> 00:44:40,679
the line, but for here they probably wouldn't. But I

1067
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,079
just think because he was less of a main character

1068
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,239
than uh Norman was it Like I think, to me,

1069
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,320
it's like Peter the other Spider Man's and Dan like

1070
00:44:49,519 --> 00:44:51,360
no One yeah, and then the here you know, are

1071
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:52,079
kind of around.

1072
00:44:52,119 --> 00:44:53,760
Speaker 2: So I guess I feel like, you know, NOA Home

1073
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,239
was an exception because they were able to get everyone

1074
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,400
and so well, not everyone, but like they got the

1075
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,119
big players from all those other Spider Man movies. It

1076
00:45:00,199 --> 00:45:03,239
makes sense. But if you go back to Homecoming and

1077
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,159
far from home to hold his home, and it's hard

1078
00:45:07,039 --> 00:45:10,000
home but like you know, Vulture and mysterial, like using

1079
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,000
characters that had not been seen before in live action.

1080
00:45:13,079 --> 00:45:15,639
I think we're gonna go that road again for this.

1081
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,400
I think they would want to go down that route

1082
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,679
and explore some more characters that we haven't seen before,

1083
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,280
unless it's you know, a can't like someone coming back

1084
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,280
a legacy role, but kind of talked about that angle.

1085
00:45:26,559 --> 00:45:28,679
Speaker 1: I was just doing a quick search. I don't know

1086
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,840
any of these, so I did a quick search of

1087
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:36,000
Spidermanville's not in live action yet, mister negative chameleon, I

1088
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,480
guess you could do like a Jenner swap one hobgob

1089
00:45:38,599 --> 00:45:41,079
you know that's what I love, do a Jenner swapped

1090
00:45:41,119 --> 00:45:43,679
Goblin and make it a hob Gobe. That could be fun. Now.

1091
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 2: I would actually be super down for that.

1092
00:45:46,119 --> 00:45:49,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, because like there's people like, well, well there's been

1093
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,480
like us that love Hobgoblin. But I'm never gonna be like,

1094
00:45:51,679 --> 00:45:54,000
oh my god, they made her all Like I feel

1095
00:45:54,039 --> 00:45:57,039
like there's some people, but like hobgom is not like a.

1096
00:45:56,599 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 2: Plus you could stream because you know how like the

1097
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,719
Hobbam is like a big reveal in animated series. You

1098
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,199
could do something like that, like maybe she has like

1099
00:46:02,199 --> 00:46:04,320
a voice modulator thing, and we think it's a man

1100
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,920
and then she and then he rips off the mask

1101
00:46:07,039 --> 00:46:08,599
and then it's Daisy under.

1102
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: And especially too because sometimes Hobgoblin is Ned Leads. Some

1103
00:46:12,039 --> 00:46:13,920
of the comic people might be thinking, Oh, it's it's

1104
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,840
Ned under that mask, like you could do some fun stuff.

1105
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,039
Speaker 2: But I don't know if they. I feel like they

1106
00:46:19,079 --> 00:46:23,000
want Daisy Relea's face present a lot like in the

1107
00:46:23,039 --> 00:46:24,119
marketing and stuff too.

1108
00:46:24,559 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you could make her do a different be

1109
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,599
a different character though, have her.

1110
00:46:27,559 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 2: Like sign so she has like the Clark Kent version

1111
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,039
and then she has this yeah, yeah, okay?

1112
00:46:33,079 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 1: Who is Swarm's Fritz von Meyer.

1113
00:46:37,119 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 2: Two three and Marvel Snap are the good Card and

1114
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:39,559
Marble Snap.

1115
00:46:40,559 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 1: Bodies composed of bees. And I don't think Daisy's playing that.

1116
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:45,480
I don't want her to do that.

1117
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 2: That's like a Nick Cage role for sure.

1118
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 1: Who is the black Tarantula? Is there? Like dumb question?

1119
00:46:52,119 --> 00:46:54,000
Not me and the kids right now we're getting back

1120
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,920
into on Disney. Plus. We love watching the I try

1121
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,239
it at least once we we watch some sort of documentary,

1122
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,360
but like bugs, animals and whatnot, like you know something

1123
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,440
to get them bring and sometimes like just when we're

1124
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,760
hiking we talk about animals and like, I don't know,

1125
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,119
we should like figure this out. Are all tranch Like

1126
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,880
I guess, like this is the black translat So I

1127
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,239
guess not all tarantulas are black. Then hey, I guess

1128
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,639
there's different like I thought they were, but maybe I'm wrong.

1129
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,199
Speaker 2: Isn't this the name of a hero though not like

1130
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:21,400
an actual it's a villain.

1131
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 1: But that's what I mean, Like, how come he's not

1132
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,559
just Tarantula, he's black Tranchela.

1133
00:47:26,679 --> 00:47:28,519
Speaker 2: I guess it's a little bit of a differentiator.

1134
00:47:29,199 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: He's been around since ninety seven.

1135
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 2: So like, why is it the silver Sable? Why isn't

1136
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:33,519
it just Sable?

1137
00:47:34,039 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: That's that's true. Ability is skill, martial artists, superhuman strength,

1138
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,920
genius level intelligence, healing factor, energy being, projection through eyes.

1139
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:48,320
So he's just like Cyclops and Wolverine put together. So Jackal,

1140
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,039
we haven't gone. We haven't gone Tombstone or Hammerhead and

1141
00:47:51,079 --> 00:47:56,079
live action Tombstone. Yeah, not live action right, not.

1142
00:47:56,079 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 2: Even like a guy whose name is like like his

1143
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,320
human name is like the same name as Lannie.

1144
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: No, we've got no Lannie yet, So that's just my Yeah, silver,

1145
00:48:06,039 --> 00:48:09,119
Sayles ut less black Cat. There's not many spot and

1146
00:48:09,199 --> 00:48:12,119
make her the are all generous plot that could be

1147
00:48:12,119 --> 00:48:14,519
a fun one too that I think visually, I guess

1148
00:48:14,559 --> 00:48:16,320
Spider versus doing that right now, So they wouldn't do that.

1149
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 2: Doing that, Yeah, I don't think we want to double

1150
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:18,960
down on that.

1151
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, so who knows. I don't know. And you know what,

1152
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,639
there's always a chance she could just be playing someone

1153
00:48:24,679 --> 00:48:26,920
that's in the actual like MCU proper, and we're not

1154
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:28,559
even thinking, oh you did actually a little bit with

1155
00:48:28,639 --> 00:48:30,719
Kitty Pride. I wasn't even thinking about that where it's like,

1156
00:48:31,039 --> 00:48:33,639
what if she's just like character blank that we're gonna

1157
00:48:33,639 --> 00:48:36,400
introduce and she's ours, it'd be like a weird pick.

1158
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,440
But like each and each Spider Man movie has a

1159
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,639
marvel character. And right now, I really like if it's

1160
00:48:42,679 --> 00:48:45,199
not Daredevil, and if it's like I really don't know

1161
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,159
who they're gonna get to be this.

1162
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,119
Speaker 2: They I feel like they're they're trying to milk Daredevil

1163
00:48:50,199 --> 00:48:51,920
right now. I think I think he'll be in there.

1164
00:48:52,559 --> 00:48:55,000
Last time he's Matt Murdoch, this time Daredevil. I think

1165
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,639
they'll do it, I hope, and maybe punish her if

1166
00:48:57,639 --> 00:48:59,880
he's getting a special too, and he's everywhere.

1167
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,079
Speaker 1: Like yeah, and they can fight the Hulk, you know.

1168
00:49:03,559 --> 00:49:03,599
Speaker 2: That?

1169
00:49:04,159 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: True?

1170
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 2: I guess.

1171
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:08,159
Speaker 1: I Well, let's take an ad break, and speaking of Punisher,

1172
00:49:08,159 --> 00:49:10,079
we're gonna talk about him a little bit and some

1173
00:49:10,119 --> 00:49:14,559
other Disney Plus stuffs. So'll be right back and we

1174
00:49:14,639 --> 00:49:17,320
are back, So let me pull up the actual quote.

1175
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,800
But that Brad Winderbam, I'm not sure we're talking about

1176
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,800
a couple of times, but I'll mention him a lot

1177
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,159
more as we go along, because just because I think

1178
00:49:25,159 --> 00:49:27,679
we all kind of think like sounds weird. It sounds

1179
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,119
weird to just like a couple of years ago, be like, oh,

1180
00:49:29,159 --> 00:49:31,159
the MC's on Disney Plus an endgame, to like now

1181
00:49:31,159 --> 00:49:32,880
we're like, oh, we think Figgy in the next few

1182
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,480
year is probably done. But either way, so Brad Winderbaum

1183
00:49:35,559 --> 00:49:38,039
is like the TV Figgy, he's right now in charge

1184
00:49:38,079 --> 00:49:40,239
of that. So he's probably somebody that like, hey, if

1185
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,639
Figgy were to go, you're looking at like that's a

1186
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,119
potential good replacement, right, But I'm trying to think, Okay,

1187
00:49:46,119 --> 00:49:47,400
here we go, so I wander brahap.

1188
00:49:47,199 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 2: So he's I don't feel like I don't recognize his

1189
00:49:49,039 --> 00:49:51,119
name is he a producer around all these things? He

1190
00:49:51,159 --> 00:49:51,960
would be all the.

1191
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: Most of the TV stuff. I think he's worked on

1192
00:49:54,159 --> 00:49:57,199
some of the movie stuff, but I'm trying to find.

1193
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:58,760
Speaker 2: I guess to the movies, I pay more attention because

1194
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,280
I'm waiting for the post credit Where is the TV? Yes,

1195
00:50:01,519 --> 00:50:03,199
show my, I gotta get to this cast and then

1196
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:03,880
it turns off.

1197
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is about Disney plus doing kind of

1198
00:50:07,159 --> 00:50:09,719
overhaul and yeah, because Dared Devil's coming out right now,

1199
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,599
he's doing the rounds and stuff. So he's the one

1200
00:50:11,639 --> 00:50:14,239
that announced the Punisher special and just in quick two

1201
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,840
little notes, he did confirm that Your Friendly neighborhood Sperimen

1202
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,000
season two and X Men ninety seven season two are

1203
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,360
going to be out next year. So that's kind of

1204
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,519
great to have those plan. Office ninety seven was a

1205
00:50:24,559 --> 00:50:26,800
little longer as they've gone through a lot of changes,

1206
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,760
and then they say their plan is to try and

1207
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,440
have Spider Man out yearly. So that's that's kind of

1208
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,320
their goal to get that happening. So that's kind of

1209
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:35,920
good and that kind of goes into their plan here

1210
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,840
because so they asked about Moonnight season two because also

1211
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,039
we talked about that as well stream and everything like that.

1212
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,280
So someone asked them, then here's the full quoty. So

1213
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,039
so I think Marvel Television has happened in ways. I

1214
00:50:47,079 --> 00:50:49,639
think Moonnight happened in waves of shows that we're going

1215
00:50:49,639 --> 00:50:51,920
to establish characters that would tie in to the future

1216
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,480
and moving forward, our priorities have shifted. We're making shows

1217
00:50:56,599 --> 00:51:00,079
as shows that can exist as annual releases more like tell.

1218
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 2: Always gonna make shows as shows.

1219
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: Well, that's how I want to talk about. I would

1220
00:51:05,039 --> 00:51:07,119
love to see Moonnight season two, but there are plans

1221
00:51:07,199 --> 00:51:10,360
for Moonnight down the road. They also know that it

1222
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,960
was big news, but they shot He said that we

1223
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:14,440
told it was a long time ago, that a Koy

1224
00:51:14,599 --> 00:51:17,880
show that they never had on the slate, but it

1225
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,280
was announced in like a press release or something that's

1226
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,360
off the table. But same things like you'll see her soon.

1227
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,079
But that's what I just thought. It was interesting of

1228
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,679
we've talked about like Disney Plus and that started with

1229
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,760
those you know, we had big things like Loki wanted

1230
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,000
his soldier, like these characters in the movies that were

1231
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,960
side characters always wanted more. But then Disney Plus was

1232
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:37,880
the way to do it, and we got them. But

1233
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,159
then we slowly after a year to realize like, hey,

1234
00:51:40,199 --> 00:51:43,519
there's there are very small episodes at time, and there's

1235
00:51:43,519 --> 00:51:45,880
like a weird pacing to them, and there's a lot

1236
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,280
of setup for like you gotta watch Wanta Vision two.

1237
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,239
Really know what's going on, Doctor Strange, right, Falca Winter Soldier,

1238
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,599
they have to do a five minute catch up in

1239
00:51:55,639 --> 00:51:58,559
Captain America. So now I feel like it's one of

1240
00:51:58,559 --> 00:52:00,519
these things where and who knows what they're mandate when

1241
00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:02,920
Disney Plus came out, But it really does sound like

1242
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,079
with the head of TV saying this, it just sounds

1243
00:52:05,079 --> 00:52:07,800
like the first maybe three years of Disney Plus was

1244
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:11,719
just like, Hey, these are movies that we'd like to make,

1245
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:13,920
but we wouldn't want to, like they don't have fate,

1246
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,360
like they probably wouldn't be like let's put the Wanta

1247
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,239
Vision movie out because maybe they think they would bomb,

1248
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,599
so let's do it on TV. Where now it's like

1249
00:52:20,639 --> 00:52:22,800
you got Daredevil, got Daredevil's season two come out and

1250
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,000
like Spider Man, they're saying, hey, our plans do that yearly,

1251
00:52:25,599 --> 00:52:28,079
So what do you think about now? It sounds like

1252
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,000
we're gonna get away from those like the low Kis,

1253
00:52:32,039 --> 00:52:34,360
the Wanta Visions and all those shows that were like

1254
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,159
connected to the movies. Now it feels like we're it's

1255
00:52:37,199 --> 00:52:39,280
finally Because I was listening to our Jessica Jones season

1256
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,400
three review day just to hear what we thought. We're

1257
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,000
kind of going full back to like.

1258
00:52:43,119 --> 00:52:45,599
Speaker 2: I always forget the third season is the.

1259
00:52:45,559 --> 00:52:47,800
Speaker 1: Final one, and know what's so funny when we were

1260
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,079
reviewing that, I forgot that they had announced it was

1261
00:52:50,119 --> 00:52:53,039
canceled before we even watched it. So that's something that

1262
00:52:53,119 --> 00:52:55,199
I didn't even remember. Yeah, so we went in that

1263
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,079
season knowing it was canceled. But my point is, it's

1264
00:52:58,079 --> 00:53:01,199
like it feels like we're just going back there now

1265
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,599
of we're gonna have shows on TV that they could

1266
00:53:04,639 --> 00:53:06,920
cross over, but not the same way of like, hey,

1267
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:10,000
we're using Wanda and she's setting up Doctor Strange too.

1268
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,360
This feels like, hey, we're doing Daredevil, and Daredevil's going

1269
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,760
to be Daredevil for the most part. It's not like

1270
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,440
Daredevil then to set up He's inspirement. It might happen,

1271
00:53:18,519 --> 00:53:20,639
but what do you think about this? That? And even

1272
00:53:20,639 --> 00:53:23,400
Moonnight now it sounds like the Moon Night Show was

1273
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,159
just to introduce them for the movies and even Winterbom says, like,

1274
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,440
I like a season two, but they have plans for him.

1275
00:53:28,679 --> 00:53:30,360
So it's just like which we probably think is Midnight

1276
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,639
Suns or something. But that's a fascinating thing to me

1277
00:53:33,679 --> 00:53:36,519
to think of. The early Disney Plus was just like

1278
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,480
kind of really movies chopped up and put up on

1279
00:53:39,519 --> 00:53:39,960
there in a.

1280
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 2: Sense, you know, very true, very true. Yeah, I mean

1281
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:48,119
I I feel like, looking at all those quotes, it's like, okay,

1282
00:53:48,159 --> 00:53:50,320
in other words, they're just doubling down on the things

1283
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,840
that are successful. You know, Daredevil makes a lot of sense.

1284
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:57,440
I mean, Daredevil maybe just happened almost by accident because

1285
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,360
they took one season and cut it into two, and

1286
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,639
that gives them a really good runway if they want

1287
00:54:01,639 --> 00:54:03,920
to do this yearly thing, because they already are set

1288
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,079
up for next year and so they can presumably film

1289
00:54:07,119 --> 00:54:08,760
the next season next year and then like keep that

1290
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,159
trajectory going if they'll want.

1291
00:54:10,119 --> 00:54:12,559
Speaker 1: That today the case they start the filming next season tomorrow.

1292
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 2: Dylan, Okay, well there you go.

1293
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,119
Speaker 1: So if you are listening to this, yeah, it's Friday.

1294
00:54:16,159 --> 00:54:18,440
It's the twenty eighth that they're filming Daredevil season two.

1295
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,159
So that's like a it's a go go so.

1296
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, full power. So I mean that like that makes sense,

1297
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,639
and that show has several seasons. Yes it's on Netflix,

1298
00:54:26,679 --> 00:54:29,000
it's a bit different time and all that, but it's like, okay,

1299
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,239
we have several seasons here to look back like it's

1300
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,239
probably me successful. They feel like they've probably done a

1301
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,239
good job of setting up Daredevil on like the interest,

1302
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,079
reintroducing that through like several projects, and so you know,

1303
00:54:38,119 --> 00:54:40,079
they're putting a lot of eggs in the Daredevil basket.

1304
00:54:40,079 --> 00:54:42,119
But I do think it will pay off for them here.

1305
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,599
And then like I don't know, Spider Man is probably

1306
00:54:44,599 --> 00:54:47,119
doing great because it's the Spider Man animated show, so like,

1307
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:49,840
you know, we like it as a normal fans too.

1308
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,239
But then also yeah, and also kids are probably eating

1309
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,119
that up. And you know, X Men maybe is one

1310
00:54:54,119 --> 00:54:55,800
of those things too that they feel like is a

1311
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,400
good fit in terms of that Saturday Morning cartoon bringing

1312
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,000
that vibe back, and maybe they found some good numbers

1313
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,679
with that. That one's also was kind of confirmed before the

1314
00:55:03,679 --> 00:55:06,199
first season even came out, right, So we'll see maybe

1315
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,320
maybe who knows if it continues for five to six

1316
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,719
years in a row, or if it's just two or three.

1317
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,119
Speaker 1: Great, now it's three they got planned for Dynycon and

1318
00:55:13,159 --> 00:55:15,800
I think after it's like, let's see how it goes,

1319
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,840
you know. Yeah, and next season is not that I

1320
00:55:19,199 --> 00:55:21,000
like to bring it up too much, but obviously there

1321
00:55:21,079 --> 00:55:22,960
was the guy like the boat of Mail thing happened, right,

1322
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:24,760
and they got rid of that guy in there placed him.

1323
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,440
He did put out there, so again whatever, take whatever

1324
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,039
you want, but he put out there that a lot

1325
00:55:29,039 --> 00:55:31,559
of his stuff for season two has been taken out

1326
00:55:31,639 --> 00:55:34,199
or change. So again not talking about whatever the guy

1327
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,440
did or whatnot, but obviously very talented writer. I'm not

1328
00:55:37,559 --> 00:55:40,079
saying that that means season two is gonna suck, but

1329
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:44,480
like it's my worry is my worry. It's it's like

1330
00:55:44,519 --> 00:55:47,480
the JJ Ryan Johnson thing where not so much even

1331
00:55:47,519 --> 00:55:49,920
the content being good or whatnot. So it's like, clearly

1332
00:55:50,119 --> 00:55:52,440
x N ninety seven season one sets up some stuff

1333
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:54,199
and then what if this new writer is like, well,

1334
00:55:54,199 --> 00:55:55,599
I don't really want doing that stuff, so let's just

1335
00:55:55,679 --> 00:55:58,119
kind of go this direction, right, Like, that's my worry

1336
00:55:58,159 --> 00:55:59,679
with that show where I felt like they brought up

1337
00:55:59,679 --> 00:56:02,559
back in was singing, where now there's all this jumbling

1338
00:56:02,639 --> 00:56:04,400
up it's getting messy. They want to take this guy's

1339
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,320
credit off, which, yeah, do whatever, it's your product. But

1340
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,639
you're changing stuff and I didn't really love season three

1341
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:11,199
or what if? And that's the head writer of the

1342
00:56:11,199 --> 00:56:13,719
new X Men stuff. And for me, I'm I'm pretty

1343
00:56:14,199 --> 00:56:17,159
I'm pretty nervous for ninety seven season two. I'm I'm

1344
00:56:17,199 --> 00:56:20,199
really I'm like the Jordan Peel sweat right now. You know,

1345
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,440
I'm not saying don't get botn to Mayo back. No,

1346
00:56:22,519 --> 00:56:24,480
if you had obviously lots of issues with them, don't

1347
00:56:24,519 --> 00:56:28,039
do that. But it's it's a weird, tricky handoff between

1348
00:56:28,079 --> 00:56:30,480
seasons where you already had a show planned out. Now

1349
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:31,840
it's kind of being rewritten, you know.

1350
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then when I look at the other things

1351
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,320
that we have on the slate right now for TV

1352
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,039
shows like an Iron Heart, like a wonder Man, what

1353
00:56:41,119 --> 00:56:43,159
else is coming out that is announced?

1354
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 1: Like Zombies, we got that, and then you got Vision

1355
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,239
that's coming out as well, supposedly next.

1356
00:56:49,039 --> 00:56:52,199
Speaker 2: So none of those to me seem like yearly things.

1357
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,239
So I feel like those are kind of relics of

1358
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,920
the old guard, the old way of introducing new characters,

1359
00:56:57,039 --> 00:56:59,199
or in the case of iron Heart kind of we

1360
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,119
already got the introduce but like this is your this

1361
00:57:01,199 --> 00:57:04,599
is actually her first story on her own. But yeah,

1362
00:57:04,639 --> 00:57:07,679
I feel like Daredevil and these animated shows seems like

1363
00:57:08,039 --> 00:57:11,559
pretty safe places to start building up this and see

1364
00:57:11,559 --> 00:57:13,480
how that goes and get that workflow going and then

1365
00:57:13,519 --> 00:57:15,440
like kind of build up again in a way. So

1366
00:57:16,239 --> 00:57:19,079
I think that I think that makes sense for them.

1367
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,440
And I don't know. I guess I like the idea

1368
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,559
of getting new characters, but like I kind of would

1369
00:57:24,559 --> 00:57:27,079
just prefer those characters getting movies than these shows, I

1370
00:57:27,079 --> 00:57:29,519
think in some cases. And I don't know, I haven't

1371
00:57:29,559 --> 00:57:31,639
loved the shows as much in general, but some of

1372
00:57:31,679 --> 00:57:33,480
them are quite good, So I don't know. I think

1373
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,559
I maybe for the shows, for characters that we've already

1374
00:57:36,639 --> 00:57:39,519
been introduced to, like Loki and Hawkeye and WandaVision kind

1375
00:57:39,519 --> 00:57:42,159
of coming out as a Falcon Winter soldier, like all

1376
00:57:42,199 --> 00:57:45,400
ones that already had established characters. So maybe maybe they're

1377
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,199
even seeing in the results, like it's just better to

1378
00:57:47,239 --> 00:57:48,960
do it the opposite way, introduce people on the big

1379
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:50,760
screen and then bring them TV later.

1380
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,199
Speaker 1: Oh I yeah, I think That's always been my pitch.

1381
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,920
Like the first three shows like I don't get me wrong,

1382
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,320
I would excait when they announced Moonnight and she Hulk

1383
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,639
and I'm still I loved Lost She Hulk Moon Night.

1384
00:58:01,719 --> 00:58:03,880
To me, it was fine, but like to me, when

1385
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,239
you looked at the numbers, it was like, Okay, I

1386
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,920
think you saw that the people for the most part glombed

1387
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,880
onto the characters that were returning, right, And that's where

1388
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,000
to me it's tough because I was bringing up this graft.

1389
00:58:14,039 --> 00:58:15,320
I just want to see like the show. So it's

1390
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,400
like obviously Wanta Vision because I just want to say,

1391
00:58:17,519 --> 00:58:19,639
how much of the stuff When you're like with Ironheart,

1392
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,480
I say, okay, how many shows were just there to like,

1393
00:58:22,519 --> 00:58:24,400
were any on their own? And there's only really one

1394
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:25,920
I could think of. But even then I think I'm wrong,

1395
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:29,599
Like Okay, Wana Vision, Oh damn, I lost it all

1396
00:58:29,599 --> 00:58:32,960
Wana Vision? That really set up or oh my god,

1397
00:58:33,079 --> 00:58:36,079
Secret Invasion yuck, I forgot about this, Like kay Wanavision

1398
00:58:36,119 --> 00:58:38,440
that sets up Strange too right, fuck Wing your Soldier

1399
00:58:38,519 --> 00:58:41,880
that sets up cap for Loki. That to me felt

1400
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,360
like a perfect like we've killed them off the movies,

1401
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,440
we can't do anything else with them. That to me

1402
00:58:46,519 --> 00:58:48,280
is like a perfect let's do a show, you know.

1403
00:58:48,679 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 2: And it's one of the few that did get a

1404
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,760
second season at this point, or yeah, the only really,

1405
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:53,639
it's the only one.

1406
00:58:53,639 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 1: So like live action Hawkeye obviously that that was the

1407
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:58,079
one where I'm like, oh, what do you do? But

1408
00:58:58,119 --> 00:58:59,880
you set up two things. If you set up Kingpin

1409
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,519
and Kate Bishop to go in Young Avengers, I'll skip

1410
00:59:03,559 --> 00:59:05,360
mod Night for a second, Miss Marvel they set up

1411
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,159
for the Marvels, right, yep, this is my two here. Moonnight,

1412
00:59:08,199 --> 00:59:10,239
I imagine is setup because like, oh, we're gonna do

1413
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,360
a midnight Suns movie play and all that. That was

1414
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,320
the setup. She halks. The one that I'm.

1415
00:59:15,159 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, what was the plan?

1416
00:59:17,199 --> 00:59:17,599
Speaker 1: We said?

1417
00:59:17,719 --> 00:59:19,559
Speaker 2: You know, we talked so much about, like was what

1418
00:59:19,599 --> 00:59:21,760
was she gonna be in Captain America? That obviously didn't happen,

1419
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,039
So like, yeah, yeah, what was the game plan?

1420
00:59:24,079 --> 00:59:26,719
Speaker 1: Because all these were, like I said, all these shows

1421
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,039
of this, like for this phase four, I guess it

1422
00:59:29,199 --> 00:59:31,719
was Phase four the Disney plus all them. You could see, Okay,

1423
00:59:31,719 --> 00:59:33,840
they made this show to get us to this point,

1424
00:59:34,119 --> 00:59:37,119
she halks. The one that doesn't make sense. May they

1425
00:59:37,119 --> 00:59:38,760
just thought because hey, we can't make a Hawk movie.

1426
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,039
Let's do that, and then when you get to phase five,

1427
00:59:41,119 --> 00:59:42,760
this is when they really go on the air pumping

1428
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:46,119
out content and like Agatha that's a spin off, a

1429
00:59:46,639 --> 00:59:49,400
Echo that's a spinoff. Locate at season two Secret Invasion.

1430
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:52,559
I guess that was like another Marvel's lead into but really,

1431
00:59:52,599 --> 00:59:55,639
like i'd say born Again, you could count Echo, but

1432
00:59:55,719 --> 00:59:58,039
really Born Again feels like Again. It's funny, we're back

1433
00:59:58,039 --> 01:00:00,599
to the Netflix stuff that feels like the first show

1434
01:00:00,679 --> 01:00:02,480
show like the first like, hey, we're gonna do this

1435
01:00:02,559 --> 01:00:04,280
and do season two and it's gonna be a show

1436
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,559
because like you said, Ironheart, that feels like it's her story,

1437
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:08,880
but that's probably still just setting up like her and

1438
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:13,280
Young Avengers. Again, we have iSER Kond by Marvel wonder Man.

1439
01:00:13,519 --> 01:00:16,920
I'm sorry, I love Yah Yah, but that thing's doa

1440
01:00:17,159 --> 01:00:19,800
I think that's gonna come out, Like to me, it's

1441
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:21,719
like Echo, it's gonna come out, and we're probably never

1442
01:00:21,719 --> 01:00:23,400
gonna see Echo for a long time. You think you

1443
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,079
think one of men's gonna comeut, we're gonna see him

1444
01:00:25,079 --> 01:00:27,360
in like a Marvel project in the next years after

1445
01:00:27,599 --> 01:00:28,320
I don't.

1446
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean part behind that considering the fate of

1447
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:33,480
Moonnight in She Hulk at this point.

1448
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:37,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you got Vision Quest, which, like the

1449
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,360
good thing is they're supposedly adapting this story. I think

1450
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,519
it's just called Vision, but they're adapting the story where

1451
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,199
he goes to like a little suburban town and makes

1452
01:00:45,239 --> 01:00:46,960
his own family. I think I've talked to you about

1453
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:48,599
this before. We has like a robot wife and a

1454
01:00:48,679 --> 01:00:50,800
robot's son and everything. Yeah, that to me feels like

1455
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,320
the low key thing where that's perfect of like can't

1456
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,119
do a movie. Vision's not dead, but he's in this

1457
01:00:56,159 --> 01:00:58,920
weird limble of like he kind of has his memory

1458
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:00,880
kind of doesn't. Like, that's to me a perfect like

1459
01:01:01,039 --> 01:01:03,679
mini series event or even Punisher, like we talked about

1460
01:01:03,679 --> 01:01:06,039
the special that's perfect. So I feel like they have

1461
01:01:06,079 --> 01:01:08,000
to be really picky. I was gonna ask you, is

1462
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,239
there any characters whether we've seen them, whether it's in

1463
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,199
the MC or Netflix or any characters we have seen,

1464
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,559
is anyone jumps to mind of like, hey, they should

1465
01:01:15,639 --> 01:01:18,840
do a like Daredevil now, like a multi season if

1466
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:20,559
that's what they're gonna do, because right now, like you said,

1467
01:01:20,559 --> 01:01:22,760
we don't really have much announced though other than Daredevil,

1468
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,239
Like this is even Punisher is a special. It's not

1469
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,880
like they announced, Hey, Punisher's back and he's doing multiple seasons. Like,

1470
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:30,760
is that how you do a Jessica Jones? Do you

1471
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,719
do a Heroes for higher? Is there anyone else in

1472
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,519
the MC? I'm trying to think that you could do,

1473
01:01:35,679 --> 01:01:39,119
Like I guess maybe Young Avengers could be that, But

1474
01:01:39,159 --> 01:01:42,320
I feel like that's a that's an expensive, like multi

1475
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,039
season show. I think that's almost like a vision where

1476
01:01:45,079 --> 01:01:45,880
you get like a one.

1477
01:01:45,719 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 2: Shot like I mean, I guess if we look at that, like, yes, uh,

1478
01:01:49,599 --> 01:01:52,199
Miss Marvel has been on the big screen now, but

1479
01:01:52,239 --> 01:01:55,039
if we do look at Young Avengers, we got uh

1480
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:58,079
what's his name from Agatha, we got Kate Bishop, we

1481
01:01:58,119 --> 01:02:00,519
got Miss Marvel. So it seems like, okay, if we're

1482
01:02:00,519 --> 01:02:04,519
doing that, their legacy so far has largely been on

1483
01:02:04,599 --> 01:02:07,039
the small screen, on the home screen, So maybe that

1484
01:02:07,039 --> 01:02:08,920
makes sense as like kind of going that route.

1485
01:02:09,199 --> 01:02:11,039
Speaker 1: Can you do that for multiple seasons though, like all

1486
01:02:11,119 --> 01:02:13,079
that big of a cast.

1487
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 2: I guess if you start small, maybe maybe if you

1488
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,679
start small and you plan it as like a maybe

1489
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:20,719
even just just plan it as like a three season thing,

1490
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,480
doesn't have to be indefinite. But just you know, two

1491
01:02:23,599 --> 01:02:26,079
or three seasons and you slowly build that roster up.

1492
01:02:26,119 --> 01:02:28,320
I guess maybe, And like I guess, I just feel

1493
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,280
like with the caliber of all those actors, like I

1494
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:34,079
don't think any of them are demanding a huge pay check,

1495
01:02:34,159 --> 01:02:36,719
like even Steinfeld, Like I don't know if she's she's

1496
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,159
not not Robert Downey numbers, you know, like you can

1497
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:41,880
order kind of thing, and she might be the most

1498
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:45,119
expensive one on that team potentially. Now, if you're throwing

1499
01:02:45,239 --> 01:02:46,920
Tom Holland in there, that's a whole different realm. But

1500
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,280
I don't think that's the route we're going with with Spidey,

1501
01:02:49,639 --> 01:02:51,519
So that might be a good one. My other one

1502
01:02:51,559 --> 01:02:54,480
is still I you know, definitely some biasaries. I love

1503
01:02:54,519 --> 01:02:57,199
the show, but I do think she Hulk, among all

1504
01:02:57,239 --> 01:03:00,320
those shows we talked about, does seem like one of

1505
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,840
the best ones for like an annual kind of thing, right,

1506
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,480
just because it's maybe a bit lower stakes, because it's

1507
01:03:05,639 --> 01:03:07,960
different tonally than some of the other stuff. Maybe the

1508
01:03:08,039 --> 01:03:10,159
cgi angle of it makes it tricky in terms of

1509
01:03:10,199 --> 01:03:11,679
the production of it.

1510
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 1: I think it was expensive the show.

1511
01:03:13,519 --> 01:03:16,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and so that's you know, that's maybe the downside.

1512
01:03:16,679 --> 01:03:18,079
But even like if I compare that to other like

1513
01:03:18,119 --> 01:03:19,920
something like Moon Night, I'm kind of good with the

1514
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,360
one season we got bring him into other stuff, and

1515
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,039
we still haven't seen that, of course, so we'll see

1516
01:03:24,039 --> 01:03:26,360
if that does ever happen or we just forget about

1517
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,559
Moon Night. But yeah, I think of all those shows,

1518
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:32,079
she Alk's the one that makes the most sense. We're

1519
01:03:32,079 --> 01:03:34,519
talking about Loki and that was successful two season to run,

1520
01:03:35,039 --> 01:03:36,920
but we've kind of set up like the end of

1521
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:38,840
that to some extent. Now you can always keep going

1522
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:40,320
with it, of course, and I'm sure we'll see Loki

1523
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,559
again someday, but I feel like they kind of close

1524
01:03:42,639 --> 01:03:45,519
that door to some extent. So I think it would

1525
01:03:45,519 --> 01:03:47,840
be my answer right now would be some more young

1526
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,079
avengersy things could even though I've talked about how I'd

1527
01:03:50,159 --> 01:03:52,679
rather get movies for that, but I think the more

1528
01:03:52,679 --> 01:03:54,960
we've talked about it, maybe that could could make sense there.

1529
01:03:55,519 --> 01:03:57,199
And yeah, she Hulk, I guess would be the ones

1530
01:03:57,199 --> 01:03:57,880
off the top of my head.

1531
01:03:58,079 --> 01:03:59,519
Speaker 1: And I was gonna say, because I don't know, you

1532
01:03:59,559 --> 01:03:59,960
weren't on the.

1533
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,079
Speaker 2: Maybe an X Men character. I don't know which one,

1534
01:04:02,079 --> 01:04:04,239
but like that could be another thing too. You probably

1535
01:04:04,239 --> 01:04:07,039
want one X Men property as like a frequent thing.

1536
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,519
You can get other characters popping in and out right.

1537
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 1: Last week one weekly me and Tara talked about that

1538
01:04:12,599 --> 01:04:15,880
was the two things where they canceled no or they

1539
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:17,920
put on hold. Let me they canceled, they put on

1540
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,920
hold Strange Academy Nova and Terror Ink, which we had

1541
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:22,719
never heard of, but they I guess we're working on that.

1542
01:04:23,239 --> 01:04:24,880
And I guess though, and the rumors though, is that

1543
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:26,840
they're working on like an X Men Academy show that

1544
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,199
to me is like a perfect like I've always pitched it,

1545
01:04:29,239 --> 01:04:32,280
like it's Carry Potter multiple seasons, where like to me,

1546
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,519
that's where it's like Nova, that's a space show. That

1547
01:04:34,559 --> 01:04:36,559
makes sense why they canceled it. Like I know people

1548
01:04:36,639 --> 01:04:38,679
might be like, oh, X Men could be expensive, Well

1549
01:04:39,039 --> 01:04:41,079
if you don't give them any fight scenes. It's just

1550
01:04:41,119 --> 01:04:43,599
said in a big mansion like it's.

1551
01:04:43,679 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 2: We need a lot. We need to explain what the

1552
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:47,320
heck is going on with the X Men and why

1553
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:49,239
they even exist. So I feel like there's a lot

1554
01:04:49,239 --> 01:04:51,199
of room for a show to explore that kind of stuff,

1555
01:04:51,199 --> 01:04:53,320
even though like if it's a six episode run, you're

1556
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:54,719
not gonna get a lot of time out of that.

1557
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:56,440
It's pretty short and sweet, so I think they could

1558
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,280
definitely keep that under wraps and that would probably have

1559
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:01,519
some good synergy with X Men ninety seven. It's different

1560
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:03,920
X Men strokes for different folks, right, but it would

1561
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,039
be kind of synergistic at the same time.

1562
01:05:06,639 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 1: And I was trying just to like Google's awful, Like

1563
01:05:10,079 --> 01:05:12,719
I was trying to find like just any maybe no

1564
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:14,440
one's done it, maybe we should have maybe a could

1565
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:16,719
see seo form. But I try to find like any

1566
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:18,679
like article or Red or something like people have a

1567
01:05:18,679 --> 01:05:21,360
list of like characters that should get a TV show,

1568
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:24,039
because I was trying to get some ideas of like

1569
01:05:25,079 --> 01:05:28,480
characters like Daredevil where it's who could get a show?

1570
01:05:29,199 --> 01:05:32,679
Speaker 2: Well, you like multiple seasons, right, you asked me about

1571
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:34,880
Jessica Jones and like Defender's era stuff, Like do you

1572
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:37,559
think that Daredevil being the first one of the live

1573
01:05:37,559 --> 01:05:40,599
action to potentially get this treatment would be like an

1574
01:05:40,639 --> 01:05:42,440
indicator that that is something they would go down and

1575
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:44,920
bring either bringing back those characters or just setting up

1576
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,320
other you know, New York Street level people.

1577
01:05:48,039 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's like we got that season two

1578
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,880
and then the Punisher special confirmed, Like I think they

1579
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,480
know the good thing with them is they know that

1580
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:57,800
these guys at least have a fan base built in,

1581
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,760
and they're cheaper shows. Not that the talent's cheaper, but like,

1582
01:06:02,239 --> 01:06:04,480
you just gotta get punished her a bunch of fake guns, right,

1583
01:06:04,559 --> 01:06:06,840
you just gotta get Charlie Cox a good looking suit. Like,

1584
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:09,599
there's not gonna be massive effects. So I feel like

1585
01:06:09,679 --> 01:06:11,559
and I don't think it's a mistake. I know christ

1586
01:06:11,599 --> 01:06:14,079
and Riddle is in New York filming Dexter right now,

1587
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:16,679
but they're also filming Daredevil. You can't tell me she

1588
01:06:16,679 --> 01:06:18,880
can't take a hop, skip and a jump to like do.

1589
01:06:19,119 --> 01:06:21,239
That's like perfect timing for her. Did you hear the

1590
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:24,719
name of her killer name in Dexter? No, it's a

1591
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:27,880
what is it? Lady Vengeance, so like Lady Liberty.

1592
01:06:28,039 --> 01:06:30,679
Speaker 2: She's fucking love that. That's amazing.

1593
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,519
Speaker 1: Don't know more, she's just a serial killer. What I'd

1594
01:06:33,599 --> 01:06:35,400
say the best thing I think to do.

1595
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 2: I even't had Riddle on my screen in a long time.

1596
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:39,320
I need her back in my life, so I'm excited

1597
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:39,840
for that.

1598
01:06:40,519 --> 01:06:42,199
Speaker 1: She did it because she has kids, so I get it.

1599
01:06:42,239 --> 01:06:44,400
But she had popped up recently. We watched Sonic three,

1600
01:06:44,679 --> 01:06:46,880
and that was wild. Emmy and I are like, why

1601
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:48,679
is she in Sonic And it's very like not a

1602
01:06:48,679 --> 01:06:51,400
big role. She's like like a CIA agent or something,

1603
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:52,960
but yeah, she's in Sonic three.

1604
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 2: Is it fun?

1605
01:06:54,199 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 1: Like?

1606
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:55,719
Speaker 2: Is it? Is it a fun character?

1607
01:06:56,400 --> 01:07:00,199
Speaker 1: No? Okay, she's not bad, but she's like they just

1608
01:07:00,239 --> 01:07:03,159
don't care much to do. But I so if the

1609
01:07:03,199 --> 01:07:04,920
only thing I'd say out of that realm you could

1610
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:06,719
pitch because Austin I think we talked about this on

1611
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,119
the news, Bernhal I think is too busy for a show.

1612
01:07:09,159 --> 01:07:11,320
So that's why they're doing a special. I think to

1613
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,880
me a Heroes for High show, but like add Jessica

1614
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:16,960
in there, like that to me is strong if they

1615
01:07:17,199 --> 01:07:19,599
because I don't know if for the big poll for people,

1616
01:07:19,639 --> 01:07:22,440
if it's I think with the canon we're getting now,

1617
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:24,920
I do think we'll get the same actors back for

1618
01:07:25,039 --> 01:07:27,039
Luke Cage and Iron Fist, I think they just want

1619
01:07:27,039 --> 01:07:30,880
to keep that kind of COPD. I think so because

1620
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:32,440
I don't think he'll ever be in his own but

1621
01:07:32,519 --> 01:07:34,360
that's my thing of like, I don't think even if

1622
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:36,159
they anounce, say we're doing Heroes for Hire, I don't

1623
01:07:36,159 --> 01:07:38,639
think those two alone have enough poll. I think you

1624
01:07:38,679 --> 01:07:41,199
do heroes for hire, and Jessica's with them, and it's

1625
01:07:41,199 --> 01:07:44,639
like a three way type of show, like one's the muscle,

1626
01:07:44,719 --> 01:07:47,360
one's a billionaire, and one's the detective. There's like a

1627
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:51,119
fun thing you do there. So that's what I could think.

1628
01:07:51,159 --> 01:07:54,199
They're in the storyline or in the comic storylines, like

1629
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,920
Jessica and Luke Cage have a kid. There's tons of

1630
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:58,880
fun you could do with that sort of stuff.

1631
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 2: So that could be the next Young Avenger is the

1632
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,320
offspring of those two, and maybe over the course of

1633
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:06,480
the Snap, maybe they've already shacked up and we're ready

1634
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:08,599
to go. Kids are ten years old, like young to

1635
01:08:08,719 --> 01:08:10,519
Chaka whoever.

1636
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 1: Some of these people they picked like a because I

1637
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,079
found a Reddit thing finally of like what Marvel character

1638
01:08:15,079 --> 01:08:17,680
needs their own to show? Someonet put Modoc who This

1639
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:20,239
was a year ago, so granted lots of change, but.

1640
01:08:20,239 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 2: Who the seen where the fate of Modoc is in

1641
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:24,359
the current timeline?

1642
01:08:24,399 --> 01:08:27,399
Speaker 1: People. The most we got with the Modoc was fine

1643
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:29,399
with the did you watch the animated series with that?

1644
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:30,560
Speaker 2: I never got around to it.

1645
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:31,520
Speaker 1: It's fun.

1646
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,720
Speaker 2: It's like a robot chicken kind of thing.

1647
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was me and Emily enjoyed. It was like

1648
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:39,039
got a couple of last but like some must be right,

1649
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:44,960
I might be yeah, Hercules, No, that's not gonna happen Black.

1650
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I forgot Hercules got introduced and that's a

1651
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:49,359
big actor now, so maybe they would coming back.

1652
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:50,359
Speaker 1: He never come.

1653
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 2: You don't think any like as guard I guess Asgard

1654
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:54,640
is kind of just a hole in the ground. But like,

1655
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:57,319
you don't think we'd ever get like a like a

1656
01:08:57,319 --> 01:09:00,880
as Guardian type character as a centerpiece. We've had a

1657
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:01,319
lot more.

1658
01:09:02,359 --> 01:09:04,279
Speaker 1: I think it'd be like Kid low Key on a team.

1659
01:09:04,319 --> 01:09:05,960
I think it's just like what we just talked about.

1660
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:07,960
I think Young Avengers would be the cap of how

1661
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:09,880
expensive they're willing to go. I think they want to

1662
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:12,680
keep them pretty. They like pretty safe and stuff. Like

1663
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:14,880
I'm just like the show's people. I guess maybe them

1664
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:16,760
think a year ago, right, Like Silver Surfer. I guess

1665
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:19,039
like there's a time where I could see them pitch that,

1666
01:09:19,079 --> 01:09:21,159
but there's no way I think this Disney Plus is

1667
01:09:21,199 --> 01:09:24,479
doing a multi season Silver Surfer show, Like do you

1668
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:25,760
think that there's the two?

1669
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean we are getting Surfer in the movie, right, So,

1670
01:09:30,199 --> 01:09:30,399
but do.

1671
01:09:30,399 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 1: You think they do a show multi seasons that they're

1672
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:34,039
pretty perfect?

1673
01:09:34,039 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 2: Me to say, because I don't actually know much about

1674
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,920
Silver Surfer. That's not a other than like the original

1675
01:09:39,039 --> 01:09:40,520
F four. I don't think I've ever actually seen the

1676
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:42,399
character or anything like. He's just one of those Marvel

1677
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:44,920
characters that somehow has slept past me. So I don't know,

1678
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:46,760
I don't I don't know the well, I guess in

1679
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:50,199
this case with the woman's Silver Surfer, I don't even

1680
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:52,039
I don't really know much about the background, Like I

1681
01:09:52,079 --> 01:09:53,439
don't know if there's the sauce there.

1682
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, And I'm just like I'm just even looking

1683
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:59,520
through people's suggestions of like if it's no longer like

1684
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:02,640
the original Disney Plus, where hey anything like she Hall

1685
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:05,039
Caul cgi characters on the table, It's not like that.

1686
01:10:05,159 --> 01:10:07,159
If it's like we gotta we're trying to make these

1687
01:10:07,159 --> 01:10:10,079
things a bit more cheaper go for multiple years, taking

1688
01:10:10,079 --> 01:10:12,920
out the Netflix people. I really don't know and the

1689
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:14,560
Young Avenger. I really don't know what's going to be

1690
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:17,880
next for Disney Plus, and maybe like even this year, well,

1691
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:19,880
actually no, that's a live we got ironhearter on Wonder man,

1692
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,520
but even next year is just supposedly Vision Quest and Daredevil,

1693
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:24,960
so like maybe they're just gonna keep it zombieslow. So

1694
01:10:25,119 --> 01:10:28,119
in Zombies, yeah, so we'll walk me. But there's just

1695
01:10:28,199 --> 01:10:30,960
not much live action, Like I'm just looking at people suggestions.

1696
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:33,199
It's just I don't think it's stuff that will It's

1697
01:10:33,359 --> 01:10:35,680
it's too big. I mean, for what it sounds.

1698
01:10:35,399 --> 01:10:37,159
Speaker 2: On top of that list, Chuck Punisher in there, because

1699
01:10:37,159 --> 01:10:39,119
that's another thing hitting Disney Plus. It's not a show,

1700
01:10:39,159 --> 01:10:41,920
but it's still yeah, yeah, in Disney Plus content content.

1701
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:45,159
Speaker 1: Even Ghost Rider. Now it's like I feel like I

1702
01:10:45,159 --> 01:10:46,760
don't know if it's gonna happen now, because then I

1703
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:48,800
feel like if it happens, you're just getting like Johnny

1704
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:51,319
Blaze a lot, like he won't be the Rider a lot,

1705
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:55,359
you know. But right, yeah, I know we have to see.

1706
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:57,520
It'll be interesting in the next couple of years because

1707
01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:59,960
maybe they're honestly not gonna even do too many new

1708
01:11:00,079 --> 01:11:02,640
shows until after Secret Wars as well, right, like get

1709
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:05,359
through that, but it's gonna be interesting whether five Ye's

1710
01:11:05,399 --> 01:11:07,560
around or not when we get that, if they do it,

1711
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:10,720
when we get that, like Slate Dump after Secret Wars

1712
01:11:11,239 --> 01:11:13,159
I think the thing that at least is safe.

1713
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 2: For them is you know, the sentence slate.

1714
01:11:16,239 --> 01:11:18,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, I can't wait for that hashtag slate dump.

1715
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,880
But you know it's gonna be like four to five

1716
01:11:22,039 --> 01:11:23,880
X Men projects that are gonna save them, right. You

1717
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:27,439
got like X Men the movie, x Academy, Wolverine like

1718
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,840
right there, and then Fantastic four two like that's right there.

1719
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:31,600
You already got.

1720
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:34,680
Speaker 2: Free or or Kitty Pride and Spider Man.

1721
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 1: For yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly got that going on. Kundy

1722
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:40,199
Pride also does marry star Lord, so if she doesn't

1723
01:11:40,199 --> 01:11:41,119
get it with Peter.

1724
01:11:41,319 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 2: And he's on Earth and he's depressed and alone, so

1725
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,239
that's the time. I don't know if I want Chris

1726
01:11:47,279 --> 01:11:50,199
Pratt and Daisy Ridley. Maybe I do. I don't know

1727
01:11:50,199 --> 01:11:53,079
if I want that. I gotta think about that, but no,

1728
01:11:53,159 --> 01:11:56,359
I think yeah. Maybe. My final takeaway here is just

1729
01:11:56,399 --> 01:11:59,359
like for me as me personally, as an individual person,

1730
01:11:59,399 --> 01:12:01,199
not looking at the Raider fan base and what more

1731
01:12:01,199 --> 01:12:03,800
people want is you know, it's proof and just looking

1732
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:05,560
at the reviews, like I've kind of been dipping on

1733
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:08,479
shows and I love the MCU, but even I've kind

1734
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:10,880
of waned a bit of my interest there with Agtha

1735
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:13,920
now Spider Man. So I think I'm good with a

1736
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:15,760
little bit of a reset, a little bit of a

1737
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:19,000
soft reset of just the plan there and make it

1738
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,640
a little more exciting for me personally. I mean, I

1739
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:23,239
loved X Men last year, so it's not like it's

1740
01:12:23,239 --> 01:12:24,800
been that long since I have found a show that

1741
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:26,880
I have loved and that's coming back right away. And

1742
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:29,279
I'm excited for Daredevil, so it's not like I'm dead

1743
01:12:29,399 --> 01:12:31,840
on excitement level. But still like I go say everything

1744
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:34,199
in the theaters, but when it comes to the TV shows,

1745
01:12:34,239 --> 01:12:35,760
I'm more selective, and so I'd like to get to

1746
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:37,920
the point where I'm like, I can't miss whatever the

1747
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:38,960
new show is at this point.

1748
01:12:39,119 --> 01:12:41,560
Speaker 1: At some point you should catch up on Spidy Spy Spy.

1749
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 2: I will, yes, next time I have Disney. Plus I'm

1750
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:47,479
gonna I think finish Agatha end that, but which I

1751
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:49,600
guess is probably this week because of a Daredevil, so

1752
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:50,520
maybe i'll watch them soon.

1753
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:54,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so Elena, I think because it's in Thunderbolts now,

1754
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:58,359
but there's interesting points. View is too big now but

1755
01:12:59,079 --> 01:13:03,960
like if you yeah, but yeah, we'll have to see

1756
01:13:04,159 --> 01:13:07,079
Elektra yeah, I just want her back. Let's get her

1757
01:13:07,279 --> 01:13:12,800
back live first before Gardner or uh definitely ld you know.

1758
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:16,000
So yeah, see, there's like the only person they had

1759
01:13:16,039 --> 01:13:19,680
the budget for it. The only person is like Valkyrie,

1760
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:22,439
Like you talking about ASCAR characters, like maybe that's one.

1761
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:23,960
But again, I don't think we're going to ASCAR. But

1762
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,039
that's when it's like, Okay, that's that's like a good

1763
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:27,479
line in the movies.

1764
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:29,399
Speaker 2: But I feel like they've already kind of botched like

1765
01:13:30,039 --> 01:13:31,920
interesting stuff they could have done with Valkyrie.

1766
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:35,359
Speaker 1: I think so, but you never know. And Hercules, I

1767
01:13:35,359 --> 01:13:37,760
don't think so, because it's just I don't think you've

1768
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:39,600
ever seen Hercules ever. Again. I don't think you're seeing

1769
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:40,760
Harry Styles ever again.

1770
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:45,199
Speaker 2: What are their really I don't think Hercules Styles seems

1771
01:13:45,359 --> 01:13:48,640
more likely as a dead character, but Hercules, like I think,

1772
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:51,640
because we're getting thor what the heck are we on now?

1773
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:53,159
Four or five? We're getting that right?

1774
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:56,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well they haven't announced. I think we will, but

1775
01:13:56,119 --> 01:13:58,119
I just think they're gonna go. I guess he'll be

1776
01:13:58,119 --> 01:14:00,000
in there, but he'll be like the worst three whereof

1777
01:14:00,079 --> 01:14:01,600
like a small role. I think they're gonna go to

1778
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:05,680
the complete well again, then maybe I wouldn't put money

1779
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:08,000
on it though, Like I wouldn't. I I wouldn't.

1780
01:14:08,319 --> 01:14:11,039
Speaker 2: I just feel like that guy's kind of gaining traction

1781
01:14:11,159 --> 01:14:14,279
as an actor, as a oh A big star yet.

1782
01:14:14,399 --> 01:14:16,600
But yeah, I think I want to use them, you know.

1783
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:18,640
Speaker 1: I just think they'll have like go a complete different

1784
01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:20,840
direction away from the Taiker stuff, so like, let's not

1785
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,600
use that might remind people, you know.

1786
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess he was just so using there such

1787
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:27,279
a small amount. I don't know if they've like set

1788
01:14:27,279 --> 01:14:29,720
the tone for me yet, Like they could go dark

1789
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,319
and brooding, which is what that actor does a lot

1790
01:14:32,359 --> 01:14:32,760
of so.

1791
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:35,319
Speaker 1: Serious, does I know, there's like I'll have to pull

1792
01:14:35,359 --> 01:14:37,000
it up. I want to pull up when we in

1793
01:14:37,079 --> 01:14:39,399
a different maybe brand butter topic of like all the

1794
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:41,720
end credits that have still not been paid off and

1795
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:44,920
we're just we're just brush all, yeah, has not been

1796
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:47,920
paid off. So but yeah, there we go. So let's

1797
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:49,840
take our last ad break and we'll talk about some Shrek,

1798
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:53,720
talk about some trailers, and beat it right back and

1799
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:56,359
we are back. So I'm not gonna I guess I

1800
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:58,800
might pull up a picture of it. So anyways, we're

1801
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:01,119
talking about a bunch of teasers. But let's talk about

1802
01:15:01,119 --> 01:15:02,359
Shrek first, a Shrek.

1803
01:15:02,119 --> 01:15:04,359
Speaker 2: Five and what is this controversy? I gotta hear what's

1804
01:15:04,399 --> 01:15:05,039
going on here?

1805
01:15:05,279 --> 01:15:08,159
Speaker 1: So Shrek five they revealed it. Let's see if I

1806
01:15:08,199 --> 01:15:11,960
can get okay, perfect, I got a side by side.

1807
01:15:12,039 --> 01:15:14,760
The biggest thing people are complaining about is the animation,

1808
01:15:15,279 --> 01:15:18,439
and they feel like it's like, like this is sacrilege

1809
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:21,800
what they've done to Shrek, that he looks awful, that

1810
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:23,880
you know, there's all the stuff, because I'll get the

1811
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:28,319
side by side, but to me, like, I know, he

1812
01:15:28,359 --> 01:15:30,680
looks like a little different and un Donkey too, right,

1813
01:15:31,079 --> 01:15:32,840
So this was just the biggest thing that and this

1814
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,640
has been to talk about everywhere where they don't look

1815
01:15:36,279 --> 01:15:40,000
the same, they don't have the same animation style. For me,

1816
01:15:40,239 --> 01:15:42,520
I like recognize that, like, Okay, they look a little

1817
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:44,880
bit different. I think Donkey looks that way because he's

1818
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:47,399
older and Shrek looks a little bit older. But for me,

1819
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:49,640
I just saw it as like, Okay, this is what

1820
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:52,680
they're doing in twenty twenty five. But this was like

1821
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:54,720
an uproar. On the end of today, we talked a

1822
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:58,079
bit about our discord of like I think because the

1823
01:15:58,119 --> 01:15:59,920
way the reason is if you look at the left,

1824
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:02,560
obviously that's the DreamWorks animation, and then the right it's

1825
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:04,479
still dream Works. But I think people are saying it's

1826
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:07,640
like almost like picks our eyes. Taara thought looked like

1827
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:10,279
AI like I wouldn't go that far. To me, I

1828
01:16:10,319 --> 01:16:12,680
didn't think it looked AI liked the new Shrek stuff.

1829
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:15,560
But yeah, it was a big uproar where there's people

1830
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:18,439
saying that they they're comparing to this like ugly sonic deal,

1831
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:20,319
Like people have like they don't made petitions, but there's

1832
01:16:20,359 --> 01:16:22,880
trending tweets of people being like, maybe we can bully

1833
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:25,520
them the same way we bullied the Sonic pep no legitimately,

1834
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:28,800
like people are starting campaigns to like the hashtags are

1835
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:31,359
like not much like this is like a big thing.

1836
01:16:31,359 --> 01:16:33,640
And to me it was just like, oh, it's Shrek

1837
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:35,920
animated in twenty twenty five, Like he's gonna look a

1838
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:38,760
little bit different. I thought, But I don't know.

1839
01:16:39,039 --> 01:16:41,279
Speaker 2: Now, Okay, you told me the Taylor thing, But what

1840
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:43,600
are the other good people of our discord thing, because

1841
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:46,319
that's those are people that I trust, as having said.

1842
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:48,520
Speaker 1: I think was with me that didn't think that, And

1843
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:50,279
then I think other people just agreed that it did

1844
01:16:50,319 --> 01:16:52,960
look like it looks different, but it didn't. Like to me,

1845
01:16:53,039 --> 01:16:56,920
it didn't look That's something first, because I watched the

1846
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:59,720
teaser right and right now, the tweet I have right

1847
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:02,840
now is discussing film that's like a very big Twitter account, right,

1848
01:17:03,279 --> 01:17:06,880
and the next tweet was, Oh, they've redesigned tracks like them,

1849
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:08,560
And I'm like, oh did they? And I pull them up.

1850
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:11,319
I'm like, yeah, like I guess, But to me, it's

1851
01:17:11,359 --> 01:17:12,800
just not redesigned. It's kind of like I saw a

1852
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:14,039
good thing. I'll see if I could pull it up.

1853
01:17:14,039 --> 01:17:17,279
But people are the Defenders were showing like Nathan Drake

1854
01:17:17,319 --> 01:17:19,600
from Uncharted three and then on Charted four, and it

1855
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:21,279
was because the games were so long. It's just like

1856
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:25,640
animations and production technology, it changes. So to me, it's like,

1857
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:27,800
I kind of get some of that complays. But even

1858
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:30,920
though put some Boots movie that was animed differently than

1859
01:17:31,399 --> 01:17:34,640
what he was originally, so I just I don't get.

1860
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 2: He just looks like a little more detailed version to me. Now,

1861
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:41,319
these is obviously cherry picking two screenshots when it's an animation,

1862
01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:44,279
not a screenshot thing. Yeah, but I'm gonna be honest

1863
01:17:44,319 --> 01:17:47,920
when I watched the teaser, I didn't notice. And you know,

1864
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:50,399
maybe I was wolfing down some broccoli. I was eating

1865
01:17:50,399 --> 01:17:52,359
my dinner, so I didn't notice. But like, I don't know,

1866
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:55,760
I didn't catch it personally. But now I'm seeing it

1867
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:58,119
when you bring it up, like it is noticeable. For sure,

1868
01:17:58,119 --> 01:18:00,960
that's different, but.

1869
01:18:00,199 --> 01:18:03,079
Speaker 1: But like, is it noticeable like to me when people

1870
01:18:03,279 --> 01:18:05,279
like look at that, and what do they do to him?

1871
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:09,279
Speaker 2: Twenty four thousands, that's what they did to him. Like

1872
01:18:09,319 --> 01:18:11,760
to me, the poor guy's age. That's not the ageist

1873
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:12,600
towards the Shrek.

1874
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 1: These three kids, you know, that age is like in

1875
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:17,800
a second, you know, But when people bread ugly songic thing,

1876
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:20,600
to me, that is like a that's a whole different

1877
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:24,319
lead like Sonic in that first trailer looked nothing like

1878
01:18:24,399 --> 01:18:26,920
Sonic other than he was blue. All. Look, the chat's alive.

1879
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:28,119
Now they're waiting again.

1880
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:31,520
Speaker 2: Here, I know they woke up, their their little Shrek

1881
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:33,279
ears perked up when they're I'm.

1882
01:18:33,079 --> 01:18:35,399
Speaker 1: Telling you, people are passionate on the Shrek thing. But

1883
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:37,279
as Buff says, it looks like it's a put some

1884
01:18:37,279 --> 01:18:39,960
Boots animation, but with normal frame rate, less stylized borders

1885
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,640
effects at least my opinion. I agree, Like people don't

1886
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:45,000
talk about the pussing boots like it was different. Seer

1887
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:46,520
Mike says, yeah, look fine to me, the last one

1888
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:48,159
was ten years ago off, so you're gonna have changes.

1889
01:18:48,199 --> 01:18:50,399
So we got some same people here, but trying to

1890
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:52,760
find the puss booth. Yeah, like here's the thing. Put

1891
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:56,359
some boots is different, you know, like like it's a

1892
01:18:56,359 --> 01:18:58,199
little bit different. But to me, it was just like

1893
01:18:59,279 --> 01:19:02,920
the Ugly song thing. He's Bluey's hedgehog shirt, but he

1894
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:06,640
looked so different like the song. Like you remember what

1895
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:07,720
Ugly Songic looked like?

1896
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:10,239
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I mean I tried to block it out

1897
01:19:10,239 --> 01:19:11,479
of my mind, but I do remember.

1898
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 1: Let's see if I even say Ugly Sonic and see

1899
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:15,479
if people are talking about right now, because I feel

1900
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:18,239
like people are making the compare. Yeah, look at that.

1901
01:19:18,239 --> 01:19:19,479
That's not Sonic.

1902
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:20,159
Speaker 2: That's not good.

1903
01:19:20,399 --> 01:19:22,880
Speaker 1: So people like the street no Way Shred, like this

1904
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:25,479
is what I mean, No Way Shrek and Donkey got

1905
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:26,760
the Ugly Sonic treatment.

1906
01:19:27,279 --> 01:19:30,239
Speaker 2: This is it?

1907
01:19:30,279 --> 01:19:32,119
Speaker 1: Does? I know it's a first kid, but I've seen

1908
01:19:32,199 --> 01:19:34,680
other people don't bring this up like other training tweets,

1909
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:36,840
but like that is not sonic that is not so

1910
01:19:37,039 --> 01:19:40,520
a hedgehog, that's something else. But this that to me,

1911
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:43,119
I could symic. Oh, that's Shrek and Donkey. That look

1912
01:19:43,199 --> 01:19:47,399
a little bit different. You know, it's fascinating.

1913
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm on your you and side of the equation.

1914
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:55,520
Speaker 1: There's no like, I don't see how people see the

1915
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:58,159
sides of this, Like even Donkey, it's like, you don't

1916
01:19:58,159 --> 01:20:01,239
look that different, Like his ears are down, he has

1917
01:20:01,239 --> 01:20:04,920
some like I don't know. It's it's a fascinating world.

1918
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:07,760
Speaker 2: Where and sometimes the internet is exhausting. This sounds like

1919
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:08,439
one of those times.

1920
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:14,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you ever Jesus Christ ugly Sonic was something horrendous?

1921
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:15,039
Speaker 2: Man?

1922
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 1: Did you ever see the Chippendale's me that camera during COVID? Uh?

1923
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 2: No, absolutely not.

1924
01:20:22,159 --> 01:20:25,279
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know if I could get copyright for this,

1925
01:20:25,319 --> 01:20:26,960
but let me see if I can quickly find it.

1926
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:29,199
They did a good thing here. But while I'm looking

1927
01:20:29,199 --> 01:20:33,039
this up, what did you think of? Also knew a

1928
01:20:33,079 --> 01:20:37,000
Shrek's coming apparently you know it's gonna be about his daughter.

1929
01:20:37,039 --> 01:20:39,439
The rumor is they released this trailer actually early because

1930
01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:42,000
Scooper has got that Zendia was in it. So they're like,

1931
01:20:42,199 --> 01:20:44,479
I just release it because people know. But Zendia's playing

1932
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:48,079
the main daughter. There's rumors that Lord Farkward's coming back

1933
01:20:48,119 --> 01:20:51,399
because you're gonna love this. There's rumors that this movie

1934
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:57,039
features the multiverse, so there you go. But yeah, supposedly

1935
01:20:57,079 --> 01:21:00,399
that obviously Zendia is if she's not the main character,

1936
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:03,680
it's like main character a with Shrek. So also it's

1937
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:05,760
a very many teaser. But what did you think about this?

1938
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:09,359
And I'm excited to have Shrek back in your life?

1939
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:11,680
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like, here's the thing. I've never even

1940
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:15,920
seen past number two. Okay, what so there are multiple

1941
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:17,880
Shrek movies I could go right now and watch for

1942
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:20,479
the very first time. So I'm excited about five. No,

1943
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:23,000
I mean, I don't care. I watched the first two.

1944
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:25,039
I love them as a kid, and then I grew

1945
01:21:25,159 --> 01:21:27,199
up a little bit more and I was less interested,

1946
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:31,079
and then fifteen years have passed since then here we

1947
01:21:31,119 --> 01:21:34,079
are today, so I don't really care. I think it's Zenday.

1948
01:21:34,119 --> 01:21:35,880
I love her, so it's cool that she's in there

1949
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:38,159
bringing back far Quad. You know, I have some good

1950
01:21:38,199 --> 01:21:41,560
nostalgic fun members of that guy, so it all seems

1951
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:44,560
good to me. But yeah, am I excited? No, Okay, can't.

1952
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:47,079
I can't honestly say I am, just because, like I said,

1953
01:21:47,119 --> 01:21:49,359
I haven't even gone watched number three or four, the

1954
01:21:49,399 --> 01:21:52,199
Holiday Special or the Christmas I don't even know what

1955
01:21:52,279 --> 01:21:54,680
these series does anymore. But they did a bunch of

1956
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:55,680
yeah they did.

1957
01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:57,720
Speaker 1: They had I think a Holiday specially and a Christmas

1958
01:21:57,720 --> 01:21:59,319
Specially year ray, and then honestly they had to put

1959
01:21:59,359 --> 01:22:01,079
some Boots movie and then put some Boots show.

1960
01:22:01,159 --> 01:22:03,359
Speaker 2: Yeah. I haven't even seen the first movie put some Boots.

1961
01:22:03,399 --> 01:22:06,279
I watched the second one because it was Golden Geek material. Yes,

1962
01:22:06,319 --> 01:22:07,680
but I haven't even seen the first one of that.

1963
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:10,079
And I'm sure there's like six Donkey movies that haven't

1964
01:22:10,079 --> 01:22:10,600
seen those.

1965
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:14,880
Speaker 1: There's rumors of a Donkey movie coming actually, but Mike says,

1966
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:17,600
you crushed my anticipation of mentioning Shrek Multiverse just a

1967
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:19,840
room right now, so we'll see. But that is I think.

1968
01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:22,119
How Lord fark Work gets back, I don't know, because

1969
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:23,279
here's my thing.

1970
01:22:23,279 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 2: Did he die? I can't even remember he did?

1971
01:22:25,039 --> 01:22:26,199
Speaker 1: He got aiden by dragon?

1972
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:29,319
Speaker 2: Okay, but that's you know, did you see his dead

1973
01:22:29,319 --> 01:22:31,359
body or did he just get eaten by dragon? Well?

1974
01:22:31,359 --> 01:22:33,600
Speaker 1: He got aiden and then in the Halloween special they

1975
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:36,439
talked about how the ghosts of Lord fark Ward haunts

1976
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:37,279
the castle and.

1977
01:22:37,239 --> 01:22:38,560
Speaker 2: You for him.

1978
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:41,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. The reason too was really cool. When I went

1979
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:44,319
to Universal that was the three the four D ride.

1980
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:46,640
That was great, and then they turned into like a

1981
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:49,359
little TV show. But it's like, uh, like when rats

1982
01:22:49,359 --> 01:22:51,680
would run by, you know, fello rats on your feet,

1983
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:54,720
when dragon fires like fire, that was really cool. But

1984
01:22:55,159 --> 01:22:57,000
what I was gonna say, as somebody that's a big

1985
01:22:57,119 --> 01:22:59,560
you know, before the MCU started, Shrek was maybe the

1986
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:03,399
mostessful cinematic universe. You know, you had multiple Shreks. These

1987
01:23:03,399 --> 01:23:06,560
specials put some boots. It's still going strong now, right,

1988
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:10,680
But what's interesting to me? People are gonna say it's bullshit,

1989
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:15,840
But for me, what IF's multiverse time travel? It's all

1990
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:18,840
the same, like type of bag right, Like to me,

1991
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:21,159
a multiverse story is pretty much a time travel story

1992
01:23:21,159 --> 01:23:22,720
in a way. It's like, what could have happened so

1993
01:23:23,119 --> 01:23:25,119
you didn't get to four? What happened is in four

1994
01:23:25,239 --> 01:23:28,279
he meets Rumpel Stillskin and of course he gets tricked

1995
01:23:28,279 --> 01:23:30,279
into some sort of deal and it's kind of like

1996
01:23:30,279 --> 01:23:33,279
a what if he didn't meet Fiona, right, So then

1997
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:35,520
because he like the whole thing is, he's like at

1998
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:37,960
a birth day kid they had the triplets in three

1999
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:40,439
they're having a birthday party and there's so many people

2000
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:42,960
and Shreks just like, I fucking hate my family and kids.

2001
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:44,560
Like it's like kind of like that story of like

2002
01:23:45,119 --> 01:23:47,640
what if I was alone again? Right, Like I just

2003
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:49,600
won my free time, I could be my swamp and

2004
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:52,239
rumbull still, like, ah, wouldn't it be great? So they

2005
01:23:52,279 --> 01:23:54,000
do this where he makes a deal and he sees

2006
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:55,439
what his life would have been like if he didn't

2007
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:58,960
meet Fiona, and like Fiona is like a warrior ogre

2008
01:23:59,039 --> 01:24:00,800
and Donkey doesn't know him, but he has to like

2009
01:24:01,319 --> 01:24:03,520
get Fiona's love back in seven days or the curse

2010
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:07,279
states forever. Right. So, to me, Shrek four was the

2011
01:24:07,319 --> 01:24:09,760
lowest grossing and I think it's everyone's least favorite. But

2012
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:12,199
they kind of already did the like what if in

2013
01:24:12,239 --> 01:24:14,640
a Shrek movie and they're doing it maybe again, which

2014
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:16,520
is kind of odd. So I want to see what

2015
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:18,039
it is. I'm sure it's just a book spell, but

2016
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:20,680
I think either way, I think this movie is gonna

2017
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:23,159
be massive for a long time. Shrek two is like

2018
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:25,479
the top grossing anime movie. I think to like the

2019
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:28,000
twenty like one of the toy stories knocked it off.

2020
01:24:28,039 --> 01:24:30,800
But I think people already love Shrek. But I think

2021
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:34,000
because he's been gone for I don't know when was

2022
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:35,640
Shrek four, I think we're coming on a couple.

2023
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:38,239
Speaker 2: I mean, he is still as culturally relevant as he

2024
01:24:38,279 --> 01:24:39,000
has ever been.

2025
01:24:39,319 --> 01:24:43,159
Speaker 1: Okay, sorek ten when Shrek Forever After came out, and

2026
01:24:43,199 --> 01:24:45,920
that's coming out next year, so we're looking at sixteen years.

2027
01:24:46,079 --> 01:24:48,720
I think that's a big thing. And I think lots

2028
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:51,119
of people or so, I think this movie has lots

2029
01:24:51,159 --> 01:24:53,439
of things because they always were making like pop culture

2030
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:56,800
references and digs and jokes like when people already were

2031
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:58,520
giving a shit of like oh my god, they're doing

2032
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:01,079
like a TikTok spoof. It's like did you not watch

2033
01:25:01,119 --> 01:25:03,359
the Shrek movies? Like that was the whole gimmick that

2034
01:25:03,359 --> 01:25:05,600
they were medieval times, but they were like making jokes

2035
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:09,920
about like regular day things and pop like why why

2036
01:25:10,039 --> 01:25:12,880
is snow White singing like Ozzy Osbourne? That shouldn't happen

2037
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:17,640
in medieval times, but like you know that happens. So yeah,

2038
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:21,560
I'm in Zendaia. Sure, I'm I guess they probably threw

2039
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:23,119
a bag of money at her just because I thought

2040
01:25:23,119 --> 01:25:25,279
her career was going on like a different directory. It's fine,

2041
01:25:25,319 --> 01:25:29,479
but like like let's call a space bade Mike, Mike Myers,

2042
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:32,720
Cameron Diaz, Eddie Murphy, they were never like gonna be

2043
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:37,239
in the Zendea like Oscar winning type of actress, right,

2044
01:25:37,319 --> 01:25:39,920
Like they're massive stars, but they were never that career wise.

2045
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:41,520
But may Zendas want to do it. Maybe she wants

2046
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:44,520
to be like a just a box office drawing Shrek.

2047
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:47,159
Shrek helps with that, So.

2048
01:25:47,239 --> 01:25:49,399
Speaker 2: What I mean, she probably just grew up loving it

2049
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:52,319
and then someone asked being it and she's like, well,

2050
01:25:52,319 --> 01:25:54,520
hell yeah, it's one of my favorite movies, so I

2051
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:55,479
think it's any people.

2052
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:58,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'm just gonna set this up. There's only

2053
01:25:58,159 --> 01:26:00,680
forty seconds. Chippendale's they did this great thing where they

2054
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:03,680
were at a comic con where it's just like old

2055
01:26:04,319 --> 01:26:07,720
animated characters or whatnot or something like that, whatever it is,

2056
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:10,079
and they I don't know how they got the right system.

2057
01:26:10,039 --> 01:26:13,479
Sure there's a story, but they see ugly sonic there

2058
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:16,279
and he's like a boof. I'm gonna be up on

2059
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:18,359
that stage too, right beside you.

2060
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:20,640
Speaker 2: Yes, ugly Sonic, that's the spirit.

2061
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:23,279
Speaker 1: No like me for who I am, not like last

2062
01:26:23,279 --> 01:26:25,600
time when the internet got one look at my human

2063
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:29,760
teeth and burn the place down. Okay, let's seat anyway.

2064
01:26:30,279 --> 01:26:33,039
Not my luck has shifted. I've been offered a new

2065
01:26:33,119 --> 01:26:35,880
reality show where I do ride alongs with the FBI.

2066
01:26:36,199 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 2: It's called Ugly Sonic Uglier Crimes.

2067
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:41,239
Speaker 1: Really a TV show?

2068
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:41,960
Speaker 2: You?

2069
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:48,840
Speaker 1: Yeah? Is that so difficult to believe? Oh? Uh, I

2070
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:54,239
guess that's what Mike was talking about the teeth as night. Yeah,

2071
01:26:54,279 --> 01:26:57,800
you know what. That's so kudos to them. That's just

2072
01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:00,359
what it's not like for me. The content in there

2073
01:27:00,399 --> 01:27:02,520
funny enough, like it's all right, but just the fact

2074
01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:06,479
that go yeah joke within itself is just like, oh

2075
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:08,479
that's a smart like whoever had the idea of like

2076
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:12,399
think about like old retired like b cedless celebrities, like

2077
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:15,760
having Ugly Sonic. Great stuff there, so good stuff.

2078
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 2: Thanks for sharing.

2079
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:18,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, trailers, let's all we got a bunch of trailers.

2080
01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:23,560
Talk about a surfer, another simple favor, freaky tales, borderline

2081
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:29,159
havoc and bring her back. Where do you want to start? Oh?

2082
01:27:29,199 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 2: My god, where do I want to start? Maybe I'll

2083
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:35,399
start with I'll start with a low one for me

2084
01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:38,840
because I need some context here another simple favor. I

2085
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:41,640
don't know anything about simple favor. What's going on?

2086
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:42,880
Speaker 1: You were seeing the first one?

2087
01:27:43,159 --> 01:27:45,800
Speaker 2: No? No, no, So what's going on here? What's the like,

2088
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:48,079
what's the elevator pitch of the first one? And why

2089
01:27:48,119 --> 01:27:49,119
are they making a sequel?

2090
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:53,279
Speaker 1: Elevator pitch of the first one? Is nerdy girl gets

2091
01:27:53,319 --> 01:27:58,520
offended by cool girl. But cool girl's a monster, like

2092
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:01,359
a literal monster. No, but like you know that's in

2093
01:28:01,399 --> 01:28:04,560
this trailer, like are you is she an aristocrat? Is

2094
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:06,680
sheit killer? I didn't know that. I thought you'd seen it,

2095
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:07,760
so I wouldn't have made you watch.

2096
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:10,319
Speaker 2: This is the same cast or is it like.

2097
01:28:10,279 --> 01:28:13,560
Speaker 1: A exact same cast? Yeah, so it's everybody.

2098
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:15,279
Speaker 2: Is that a good? No?

2099
01:28:16,359 --> 01:28:19,600
Speaker 1: The first one's fantastic. No, first one's fantastic. It's one

2100
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:21,760
of these moods. So it's like when it's it's Paul

2101
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:25,760
Figue and he does all those like like like look

2102
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:27,720
at his IMDb and you'll know what I'm talking about.

2103
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:30,159
For the most part, they're all very you've seen that

2104
01:28:30,239 --> 01:28:32,760
type of Colmedy movie, and he did Bride's Maids, but

2105
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:35,239
I think that's his best one. They're all like different

2106
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:36,319
versions of.

2107
01:28:36,279 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 2: Like Ghostbusters, the Heat Spy.

2108
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 1: Okay, so you see then you know what a type

2109
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:44,359
of directory is, right, absolutely, So with the Simple Favor,

2110
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:47,000
it had like a little bit about that, but it

2111
01:28:47,039 --> 01:28:49,199
was more of a drama and it was very well done.

2112
01:28:49,239 --> 01:28:53,039
It's a very cool, like cat and Mouse like dramedy thriller,

2113
01:28:53,119 --> 01:28:56,520
and Anna Kendria and Blake Lively had really great chemistry,

2114
01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:57,840
so it was really good. So it was one of

2115
01:28:57,880 --> 01:28:59,720
these films that was like a surprise hit when it

2116
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:02,159
came out that year, just like critically and like even me,

2117
01:29:02,199 --> 01:29:03,520
I think I saw it because I am. I'm like,

2118
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:05,479
oh I see, It's like yeah, okay, sure, Like I

2119
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:08,119
had very low expectations. There is a review actually somewhere

2120
01:29:08,119 --> 01:29:09,800
in Geek First I liked as much. I did a

2121
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:12,960
soul review and it's really good. But it's also a

2122
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:14,920
movie that feels like it should not have a sequel

2123
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:17,680
at all. Feels like it ends very like the book

2124
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:21,880
is shut on this chapter, like many bad things get

2125
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:24,399
revealed about Blake Lively's character. So the fact that it's

2126
01:29:24,399 --> 01:29:26,159
like she's at a prison and like wants her to

2127
01:29:26,159 --> 01:29:28,239
come to the wedding. Don't know why you would eat

2128
01:29:28,239 --> 01:29:30,640
because the whole trailer you've seen this where it's like, oh, what.

2129
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:30,880
Speaker 2: Do you want?

2130
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:32,600
Speaker 1: You're trying to get back and be like why would

2131
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:35,239
you do? Like I'm waiting for the Hopefully watch the

2132
01:29:35,239 --> 01:29:36,840
movie and see what the other hook is, because why

2133
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:39,159
is this person who all these bad things are revealed

2134
01:29:39,159 --> 01:29:41,399
about her and they're maybe after you you're gonna like

2135
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:44,159
give them a second chance, Like I'm sorry, Dan, like

2136
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:46,960
a minus for first one. If anyone in my real

2137
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:50,840
life tries to murder me, I'm not gonna that. There's

2138
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:52,600
no second chances for that person. You know.

2139
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:57,319
Speaker 2: That's what about Taylor. He's tried to murder you many times, hasn't.

2140
01:29:57,000 --> 01:29:59,560
Speaker 1: He The problem? I guess the problem is.

2141
01:29:59,359 --> 01:30:02,600
Speaker 2: That the of Nightfall and pen Solo and no, you're.

2142
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:05,279
Speaker 1: Right, you're right, But the problem is we're contractually bound

2143
01:30:05,319 --> 01:30:07,640
by this podcast. I don't see my real life, so

2144
01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:09,720
like when he invites me over, like I don't go

2145
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:10,720
there and anything like.

2146
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:12,600
Speaker 2: That, So because he might be poisoned the food or something.

2147
01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:15,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's actually the real reason why we cast like.

2148
01:30:17,399 --> 01:30:19,960
Speaker 2: Virtually now, I actually do live in Klona, but we

2149
01:30:20,079 --> 01:30:20,479
just do this.

2150
01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:23,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all fun because because Taylor is trying to

2151
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:27,279
kill me. So but uh, okay, so in that aspect,

2152
01:30:27,319 --> 01:30:29,920
if I wasn't on a podcast with someone, I wouldn't

2153
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:34,079
see them again. But yeah, so for me, I'm I'm interested.

2154
01:30:34,079 --> 01:30:35,800
But it's a movie that I feel like they made

2155
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:38,359
too because I got a big paycheck and I don't

2156
01:30:38,359 --> 01:30:40,119
even think it's going to box office. It was like

2157
01:30:40,119 --> 01:30:42,640
a box office like minor hit. But yeah, so I

2158
01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:43,880
would not put that in there if I didn't know

2159
01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:45,800
you'd seen. I thought we talked about it at some

2160
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:47,359
point on the podcast or something.

2161
01:30:47,479 --> 01:30:50,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm glad I just learned that. And uh yeah,

2162
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:52,119
we'll see if I remember it by the time this

2163
01:30:52,159 --> 01:30:53,359
movie comes out. Probably not.

2164
01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:55,239
Speaker 1: If you never have something to watch and you're in

2165
01:30:55,319 --> 01:30:58,039
for like a little fun comedy thriller. The first one

2166
01:30:58,159 --> 01:30:59,960
is I think worth your time. There's some good.

2167
01:31:00,119 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 2: Off And then the next one I'll bring up is

2168
01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:05,479
I'll bring it right back, bring her back. This is

2169
01:31:05,479 --> 01:31:08,079
the next movie from the people who did talk to me.

2170
01:31:09,560 --> 01:31:12,560
This movie looks fantastic. I am very excited for this.

2171
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:15,119
I love that movie. I think it's really it's I guess.

2172
01:31:15,199 --> 01:31:17,079
You know. The year before this Golden Geese, we did

2173
01:31:17,119 --> 01:31:18,640
like Best Horror Movie. I think that was the winner,

2174
01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:20,319
right of that category that we.

2175
01:31:20,279 --> 01:31:22,880
Speaker 1: Did want to Yeah, we forgot to do that this year.

2176
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:25,680
Speaker 2: I don't think I didn't really forget. I just don't really.

2177
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:27,279
I don't think I had the sauce, and I don't

2178
01:31:27,279 --> 01:31:30,079
think that category had the sauce. We just didn't have

2179
01:31:30,159 --> 01:31:32,279
enough fuel for it to make it super exciting.

2180
01:31:32,359 --> 01:31:35,119
Speaker 1: And we also we also had Long Legs and Nosa

2181
01:31:35,319 --> 01:31:36,439
to in Best Golden Geese.

2182
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:39,720
Speaker 2: So we tried it in that year. And I think

2183
01:31:40,039 --> 01:31:42,800
on certain years, if there's certain genres that are just slammed,

2184
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:44,840
it would be fun to get some bones categories in there.

2185
01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:47,479
But I'm glad we did want that one year. But anyway,

2186
01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:51,159
I yeah, talked to me, Yeah exactly, that could be

2187
01:31:51,199 --> 01:31:54,439
it talk to me really great, really interesting movie, like

2188
01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:56,760
visuals of it are great. Before I even saw that

2189
01:31:57,000 --> 01:31:59,680
sizzle thing in the trailer, that's reminded me of who

2190
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:02,439
the directors were. It was giving me hereditary vibes, and

2191
01:32:02,479 --> 01:32:04,479
if you're good from your hereditary vibes, I'm into it

2192
01:32:04,720 --> 01:32:07,720
the people, the weird naked people touching people a weird way,

2193
01:32:07,880 --> 01:32:10,880
is the strange cinematography. I think this looks really great,

2194
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:12,760
So I'm very excited for this one. This is a

2195
01:32:13,239 --> 01:32:15,960
definitely like jumped up that anticipaid list for me. Now

2196
01:32:16,119 --> 01:32:17,520
I'm pretty stoked for this one.

2197
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:21,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very excited for it. I love love me

2198
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:23,760
feel sure. I I think I really loved it. I

2199
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:25,520
gotta watch talk to Me again, Like I want to

2200
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:26,920
say I loved it, but I don't think it was

2201
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:28,840
in like my top tim I feel like I gave

2202
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:30,399
it like a good score. I don't know. I remember

2203
01:32:30,479 --> 01:32:33,680
very much enjoying. It's a it's so hard nowadays to

2204
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:37,600
find concepts that are unique, right, because lots of times

2205
01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:40,359
he's just like, here's a spin on this, Like I like,

2206
01:32:40,439 --> 01:32:41,760
I got no problem, Like with when made a joy

2207
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:44,479
Chrome that's like a spin on Saw on a Dangerous game?

2208
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:47,319
Those like two movies I like, or franchise, like here's

2209
01:32:47,319 --> 01:32:49,039
a version of like what I kind of want to

2210
01:32:49,079 --> 01:32:51,159
do with it? But I was inspired by other projects, right,

2211
01:32:51,199 --> 01:32:53,039
we're talk to me. I'm sure they were inspired by

2212
01:32:53,039 --> 01:32:54,800
other things. But that's like a I don't know, a

2213
01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:56,560
movie where you hold a hand and talk to other

2214
01:32:56,600 --> 01:32:58,680
dead peel right. May there's some are you Afraid that

2215
01:32:58,840 --> 01:32:59,680
dark episode in.

2216
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:02,319
Speaker 2: The nine something and then like nail that concept so

2217
01:33:02,399 --> 01:33:05,039
well visually and story wise and acting wise.

2218
01:33:05,119 --> 01:33:07,840
Speaker 1: Right, But so for me, the only thing that helped

2219
01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:11,520
me back was it's it's funny because they're already making Okay,

2220
01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:13,479
have four or five. I gotta watch it again. Though

2221
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:16,319
the actress great job. I think I had like issues

2222
01:33:16,319 --> 01:33:18,199
with the third act of what I remember. I feel

2223
01:33:18,239 --> 01:33:20,720
like there's some some stumpiness there, but it's still the

2224
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:22,920
point where I'm like, I'm very excited to see what

2225
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:26,399
they do going forward. My only thing was they've announced

2226
01:33:26,399 --> 01:33:28,680
that they're doing talk to Me Too. If they didn't

2227
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:32,600
announce that, yeah, yeah, if they didn't announce that, I

2228
01:33:32,680 --> 01:33:36,560
swore that this movie would be like a it's a sequel,

2229
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:39,239
but not a sequel, because it feels like there's some

2230
01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:42,199
very similar vibes, Like even the title like bring her Back.

2231
01:33:42,279 --> 01:33:44,680
It seems like there's a circle and they're communicating. You

2232
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:47,239
see multiple dead things, So that's that's not my concern,

2233
01:33:47,720 --> 01:33:50,640
But I'm just wondering if it's gonna feel I want

2234
01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:53,760
to see what the real pitches of the story because

2235
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:55,479
I don't want to be like too samesy, Like it

2236
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:58,159
feels like it's like another movie. If you're to show

2237
01:33:58,199 --> 01:34:00,760
the trailer to talk to me to this, and if

2238
01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:02,520
I were to give you a log line of it's

2239
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:05,359
a movie about communicating with a dead that looks like

2240
01:34:05,399 --> 01:34:08,039
it's not the exact same movie, but they have, there's

2241
01:34:08,079 --> 01:34:09,439
like a one to one comparison.

2242
01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:12,159
Speaker 2: Especially even like as a creative, you release that movie,

2243
01:34:12,479 --> 01:34:14,840
you're working on the sequel in somewhere are they still.

2244
01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:17,079
Speaker 1: Working on they're directing the sequels.

2245
01:34:17,159 --> 01:34:19,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, their mind is filled with talk to me, like

2246
01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:21,920
it's all over the place, swirling around in that brain.

2247
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:25,520
So I'm sure influences are going to pop in, even unintentionally.

2248
01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:27,119
Speaker 1: And who knows, it might even be like a black

2249
01:34:27,119 --> 01:34:29,920
mirror situation where like these don't connect, but they're still

2250
01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:31,640
in the same type of universe, which I don't mind

2251
01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:34,079
because Tarantino does that and Kim Smith ses that where

2252
01:34:34,079 --> 01:34:36,560
it's like, yeah, these things are kind of loosely connected.

2253
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:39,760
So no, I'm very intrigued some very creepy visuals. I

2254
01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:42,880
think they're much like Neon with long legs, where I

2255
01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:45,039
don't know if it's these directors or whoever they're working with.

2256
01:34:45,079 --> 01:34:48,359
I think they always get their trailers cut really well,

2257
01:34:48,399 --> 01:34:50,319
like I think they do a good job of showcasing it.

2258
01:34:50,399 --> 01:34:53,479
So yeah, I think I will be there for And

2259
01:34:53,479 --> 01:34:56,239
that's this summer too. It's like not too far away.

2260
01:34:56,279 --> 01:34:58,439
So I was excited about. I just that was my

2261
01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:01,359
only thing of like, oh this looks. It looks looks

2262
01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:05,239
very not similar, but very in that same type of tone,

2263
01:35:05,239 --> 01:35:07,319
but not a bad thing, because I like to talk

2264
01:35:07,359 --> 01:35:09,720
to me. I just wonder like same thing. Now, it's

2265
01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:11,920
like if it is similar, Like what juice do they

2266
01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:13,359
have for talking to me too? Because I feel like

2267
01:35:13,399 --> 01:35:14,960
you might want to say something. But like I said,

2268
01:35:15,159 --> 01:35:17,600
this trailer didn't reveal a lot. I like Sally Hawkins

2269
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:19,239
the actress, so maybe there's just gonna be some wild

2270
01:35:19,319 --> 01:35:21,119
swings that we're not even thinking about yet.

2271
01:35:21,159 --> 01:35:24,399
Speaker 2: So yeah, she's another one too. I haven't I haven't

2272
01:35:24,439 --> 01:35:27,640
seen her in anything in recently recent times, so I'm

2273
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:28,159
excited for that.

2274
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:29,960
Speaker 1: What was the last thing to see it? Was it

2275
01:35:30,199 --> 01:35:31,159
the Fish movie?

2276
01:35:31,720 --> 01:35:34,319
Speaker 2: It might have been, which was like a long time ago.

2277
01:35:34,399 --> 01:35:36,039
Speaker 1: Now what the hell is that called?

2278
01:35:37,319 --> 01:35:38,159
Speaker 2: Oh god?

2279
01:35:38,479 --> 01:35:44,199
Speaker 1: It won Best Picture? It did hidden Wow, Creature of

2280
01:35:44,239 --> 01:35:48,199
the Sea. No, because that's the problem with the memes

2281
01:35:48,199 --> 01:35:51,600
and everything, like it just became the fish sex movie,

2282
01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:52,399
you know, like that's.

2283
01:35:52,199 --> 01:35:54,079
Speaker 2: What it's s puff is in the chat We're gonna

2284
01:35:54,079 --> 01:35:55,840
need to bailed out here? What the hell is.

2285
01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:58,800
Speaker 1: That in the chair? Yeah? I won't. I think it's

2286
01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:03,680
just it's something sea or oh it's chat you can tell.

2287
01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:05,079
So I'm not gonna look it up. But I just

2288
01:36:05,119 --> 01:36:05,600
feel like.

2289
01:36:06,640 --> 01:36:10,520
Speaker 2: Like Shannon in there, we got fish sex, we got

2290
01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:11,279
fish tanks.

2291
01:36:11,359 --> 01:36:16,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sally Hawkins, call not call is woman in the

2292
01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:20,479
title woman the Woman.

2293
01:36:21,119 --> 01:36:24,199
Speaker 2: I can't believe this is fish in the title fish.

2294
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:26,760
Shape of Water?

2295
01:36:27,359 --> 01:36:32,079
Speaker 1: You get a shape of water? Damn it? Good job,

2296
01:36:32,119 --> 01:36:33,319
thank you, super bad Mike.

2297
01:36:34,520 --> 01:36:36,880
Speaker 2: A pretty good title, A pretty good title too. I

2298
01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:38,880
like that title, but I just couldn't.

2299
01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:42,199
Speaker 1: It's also but it's also like words that aren't like

2300
01:36:42,239 --> 01:36:45,520
too memorable, right, Like it's something where it's not it's

2301
01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:48,560
not like to me like Django Unchain, where it's like,

2302
01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:51,000
oh that's very like that just stands out right. Shape

2303
01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:53,439
of water that could be like a soap opera too,

2304
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:56,039
but it's true. All right, we're going next.

2305
01:36:56,800 --> 01:36:59,680
Speaker 2: Well, there's a treeage for me, a Preaky Tails borderline,

2306
01:36:59,720 --> 01:37:02,880
and how that didn't really move the needle for me.

2307
01:37:03,119 --> 01:37:05,640
Speaker 1: They're all kind of like details, No, not really.

2308
01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:07,840
Speaker 2: They were all in that bucket of like excited to

2309
01:37:07,880 --> 01:37:09,840
see what the discord thinks of this. But I'm not

2310
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:12,199
gonna be the guinea pig on this one. I'm gonna

2311
01:37:12,199 --> 01:37:14,159
wait and see what other people think. But I kind

2312
01:37:14,159 --> 01:37:16,079
of have low expectations for all three of them for

2313
01:37:16,159 --> 01:37:19,159
different reasons, but I think mostly as they none of

2314
01:37:19,199 --> 01:37:21,359
them really had a style that was calling to me

2315
01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:23,560
or a concept, which are you know for these kind

2316
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:26,359
of genre is the thing that that really bring me in.

2317
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:29,920
Speaker 1: So Freakytails that's been a movie making the film festival

2318
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:31,600
circuit for a while, Like I think it's one of

2319
01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:34,920
those like was maybe done in twenty twenty four or

2320
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:39,319
three even, but it's gotten really good. Like anytime it's

2321
01:37:39,319 --> 01:37:41,319
just been shown somewhere, people always like, oh, this is

2322
01:37:41,319 --> 01:37:45,039
a really fun anthology movie. There was my voice, So

2323
01:37:45,319 --> 01:37:47,720
that's and I love a good anthology movie. I like

2324
01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:49,920
the cast of Pagro and some other people, like even

2325
01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:52,239
the iron Hard actresses in there, So I'm curious to

2326
01:37:52,279 --> 01:37:54,720
see that all out. But yeah, so I don't know.

2327
01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:57,039
I liked the style. I like the idea of it,

2328
01:37:57,079 --> 01:37:58,520
like kind of as a little bit of aies retro.

2329
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:03,760
You could see there were different God, I'm not dimensions.

2330
01:38:03,800 --> 01:38:06,720
I can't remember what the ratios. There's different ratios in

2331
01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:09,359
the stories, so like I'm curious see how they tie

2332
01:38:09,399 --> 01:38:12,119
all together or if they're not. But yeah, so that one,

2333
01:38:12,119 --> 01:38:14,520
I'd say, obviously you're waiting for the discord, but that one, look,

2334
01:38:14,640 --> 01:38:16,680
I think that's the most potential because every time that's

2335
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:17,199
a film.

2336
01:38:17,039 --> 01:38:19,439
Speaker 2: That's with context, for sure, you're selling me more than

2337
01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:20,000
the trailer did.

2338
01:38:20,039 --> 01:38:22,239
Speaker 1: Because even the trailers like Sundance and Sundimes is like

2339
01:38:22,239 --> 01:38:24,720
a big one. It's like a horror at Sundance. So like,

2340
01:38:24,840 --> 01:38:28,479
you know, hey, I'm did I try to submit to Sundance?

2341
01:38:28,479 --> 01:38:30,600
I can't remember, But anyways.

2342
01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:33,079
Speaker 2: You could put that as one of the Laurels submitted

2343
01:38:33,119 --> 01:38:33,720
to Sundance.

2344
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:37,039
Speaker 1: They don't give me those ones before. I wish, I wish,

2345
01:38:37,119 --> 01:38:42,199
but yeah, and then Havoc, I wish the trail is longer.

2346
01:38:42,199 --> 01:38:45,159
But you've never seen any of the Raid movies, have you? No,

2347
01:38:45,960 --> 01:38:49,319
the Raid is like one of the most inspira inspirational

2348
01:38:49,399 --> 01:38:52,399
horror movie or sorry, action movies all time. You would

2349
01:38:52,399 --> 01:38:54,119
watch that movie and that would probably be a movie

2350
01:38:54,119 --> 01:38:55,960
you'd be like, Oh, this doesn't feel like anything I

2351
01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:58,800
haven't seen before. It's because like all the action movies

2352
01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:01,640
of like the twenty tens copy that, like the very

2353
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:05,439
like the One Takes and Daredevil and stuff, they're all

2354
01:39:05,680 --> 01:39:08,079
inspired by the right Like it's that type of style.

2355
01:39:08,600 --> 01:39:11,359
So the only reason I'm excited for this is there's this,

2356
01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:13,840
and he has a TV show coming to Paramount. I'm

2357
01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:16,239
just excited to have Tom Hardy potentially back in some

2358
01:39:16,239 --> 01:39:18,359
good stuff. So other Raid, I definitely recommend. It's a

2359
01:39:18,359 --> 01:39:20,600
foreign film. There's not even that much talking in it,

2360
01:39:20,640 --> 01:39:22,239
but it is maybe worth a watch.

2361
01:39:23,119 --> 01:39:25,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, But that's that's you know, It's funny when we

2362
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:29,399
were dude when Golden Geeks recently and I mentioned Tom

2363
01:39:29,439 --> 01:39:33,279
Hardy for his role in Bike Riders, which I was

2364
01:39:33,319 --> 01:39:34,479
the only one who had seen that movie, but I

2365
01:39:34,479 --> 01:39:35,840
really liked him in there, and it's like a good

2366
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:38,880
reminder of like, oh, yeah, Tom Hardy is really good,

2367
01:39:39,119 --> 01:39:41,279
like when you put him in something that isn't the

2368
01:39:41,359 --> 01:39:45,319
Sony verse. But yeah, it's funny because I saw this

2369
01:39:45,399 --> 01:39:47,640
trailer get mentioned in the discord. I think it was

2370
01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:51,239
this movie, but then I watched the trailer. I'm like, okay, well,

2371
01:39:51,319 --> 01:39:52,880
like I want to see Tom Hardy and something that's

2372
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:55,439
really good, but like, is that gonna be this or

2373
01:39:55,479 --> 01:39:57,800
is this just gonna be like another generic action flick

2374
01:39:57,800 --> 01:40:00,640
where he's doing something that anyway one else could do.

2375
01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:03,279
Speaker 1: This trailer definitely just banked on, because they even do

2376
01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:06,039
from the craters or whatever of the of the Raid.

2377
01:40:06,119 --> 01:40:08,520
It's like they definitely just banking on. Like, Okay, this

2378
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:11,000
trailer is nothing too special, but if you like the Raid,

2379
01:40:11,039 --> 01:40:13,520
go check this movie off. I like Timothy Oliphant, so

2380
01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:16,960
I forgot he was in there. Yeah sure, but yeah no,

2381
01:40:17,079 --> 01:40:19,840
I happy remind me about Bike Riders because I need to.

2382
01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:22,159
I got a list of movies I gotta watch now

2383
01:40:22,199 --> 01:40:24,479
that I'm done Daredevil. I just finished my rewatch today,

2384
01:40:24,520 --> 01:40:26,680
so I'm gonna start watching, like I'm gonna watch The Gorge?

2385
01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:28,720
Are you You're not gonna watch The Gorge? Right, because

2386
01:40:28,760 --> 01:40:30,760
you said those trailers are awful, but everybody has seen

2387
01:40:30,760 --> 01:40:32,359
it tells me the trailers.

2388
01:40:32,399 --> 01:40:35,880
Speaker 2: I thought, Okay, it was kirk Movies, Kirk Taylor, Kirkland.

2389
01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:37,039
I want to check that movie out.

2390
01:40:37,119 --> 01:40:39,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I keep hearing good things, So Bike Riders is

2391
01:40:39,159 --> 01:40:40,800
one that I have my Amazon list, but I'm hoping

2392
01:40:40,840 --> 01:40:47,560
this is good. And then borderline, I don't know how

2393
01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:49,880
this is gonna. I'm I got a lot of pieces.

2394
01:40:49,880 --> 01:40:53,680
While I'm curious, I love Samorrow Weaving. I don't mind,

2395
01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:57,319
like I think this is like a This is one

2396
01:40:57,319 --> 01:40:59,720
where we talked about just a second ago. We've seen

2397
01:40:59,840 --> 01:41:02,960
verys of this plot right of super fan or stalker

2398
01:41:03,119 --> 01:41:06,399
kidnapping somebody. It's like a wild twenty four to seventy

2399
01:41:06,399 --> 01:41:09,680
two hours. But those sometimes can be pretty great. I

2400
01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:13,680
am very curious on Ray Nicholson because people should know

2401
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:17,119
I love Jack Nicholson. You tell about classic stars of

2402
01:41:17,159 --> 01:41:19,960
like old Hollywood. To me, it's Jack Nicholson, Charle Heston,

2403
01:41:20,039 --> 01:41:23,560
those are my guys. I will like Jack Nicholson. He

2404
01:41:23,760 --> 01:41:25,479
I just love that man. I think he's one of

2405
01:41:25,479 --> 01:41:29,079
the grayst actors of all time. He's uh, what is it?

2406
01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:33,560
Record Oscar winner Dylan only person him, Daniel Day and

2407
01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:36,199
Males Streep to win three Oscars. Very impressive in that

2408
01:41:36,239 --> 01:41:36,960
acting category.

2409
01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:40,399
Speaker 2: We I thowt Daniel Day was like eclipse to them

2410
01:41:40,439 --> 01:41:41,359
at some point but I guess not.

2411
01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:44,399
Speaker 1: Jack's right there. Jack. People forget about jackause he's been.

2412
01:41:44,399 --> 01:41:45,520
Speaker 2: More his three wins.

2413
01:41:46,079 --> 01:41:48,000
Speaker 1: It was one of the Kucka's nests, as good as

2414
01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:51,159
it gets. And I always forget the first one because

2415
01:41:51,159 --> 01:41:53,680
I always think it's Chinatown, but it's not Chinatown.

2416
01:41:53,720 --> 01:41:56,239
Speaker 2: But he should always a leading or video supporting one in.

2417
01:41:56,239 --> 01:41:57,880
Speaker 1: The one's lead one is supporting, and I think the

2418
01:41:57,920 --> 01:42:00,600
other one is a lead as well. So I will

2419
01:42:00,640 --> 01:42:03,199
find out in a second. But so I've only seen

2420
01:42:03,279 --> 01:42:04,239
him in Smile too.

2421
01:42:04,279 --> 01:42:08,039
Speaker 2: And watch his Oscar winning stuff because I don't think

2422
01:42:08,079 --> 01:42:08,840
I've seen any of those.

2423
01:42:09,079 --> 01:42:11,319
Speaker 1: One flu of the cuckoos nest is a did you

2424
01:42:11,319 --> 01:42:12,439
not read that book in school?

2425
01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:14,000
Speaker 2: Even I did read the book in school?

2426
01:42:14,359 --> 01:42:16,720
Speaker 1: Okay, So yeah, he's a movie. He plays McMurphy and

2427
01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:19,399
he's just like he's just giving it. Man, he's a

2428
01:42:19,399 --> 01:42:22,439
perfect McMurphy. But what was the other one?

2429
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:22,920
Speaker 2: Murphy?

2430
01:42:23,159 --> 01:42:26,000
Speaker 1: It's always a movie that like I forget, which is bad.

2431
01:42:27,159 --> 01:42:29,199
Not the movie bad, I just it's bad that I

2432
01:42:29,319 --> 01:42:34,439
forget it. Where is it? And I almost have it there?

2433
01:42:34,479 --> 01:42:37,920
It is terms of endearment? Okay, So that's why not

2434
01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:38,399
a movie?

2435
01:42:38,399 --> 01:42:41,039
Speaker 2: I go back to the shape of water like title,

2436
01:42:41,079 --> 01:42:41,720
it's forgettable.

2437
01:42:41,800 --> 01:42:45,960
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, but so his son it's strange always on

2438
01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:46,520
the smell.

2439
01:42:46,319 --> 01:42:48,119
Speaker 2: Too, because that's his son is the main guy in

2440
01:42:48,319 --> 01:42:49,079
Ray Nicholson.

2441
01:42:49,199 --> 01:42:52,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's a weird, like if you were to say,

2442
01:42:52,279 --> 01:42:55,079
like draw Jack Nicholson from memory, because sometimes he looks

2443
01:42:55,319 --> 01:42:57,479
very much like his father, but then.

2444
01:42:57,399 --> 01:42:58,800
Speaker 2: Other times I didn't notice it at all.

2445
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:01,199
Speaker 1: To be honest, it's when he has his hair pulled

2446
01:43:01,239 --> 01:43:03,319
back and when he smiles, he looks like Jack. I

2447
01:43:03,359 --> 01:43:05,520
think the throw off though, is that he doesn't sound

2448
01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:08,239
like his dad at all. So I'm just gonna maybe

2449
01:43:08,239 --> 01:43:09,520
this is pure just like have.

2450
01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:11,720
Speaker 2: You seen him acting and yet smile to you.

2451
01:43:11,720 --> 01:43:15,119
Speaker 1: We had a small role, small role he's an abusive boyfriend,

2452
01:43:15,119 --> 01:43:16,840
which he was a good ad, but like it's like

2453
01:43:17,039 --> 01:43:19,159
just a small role. But so this is like me

2454
01:43:19,319 --> 01:43:20,439
like bringing like Nettle.

2455
01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:23,119
Speaker 2: Being typecast as the abusive boyfriend.

2456
01:43:22,760 --> 01:43:26,279
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. Yeah, so this is somewhere I'm bringing

2457
01:43:26,319 --> 01:43:29,159
nepotism as a fan and I'm just hoping. But uh,

2458
01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:32,439
I still like tres is calling him an industry plant.

2459
01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:36,520
I'm not saying that, but sometimes it happens. That can

2460
01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:39,159
happen and Jack Nicholson's your dad. I'm sure it's opened

2461
01:43:39,239 --> 01:43:40,960
up a lot of doors, but what you know what

2462
01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:42,880
you still have to do though, you still got to

2463
01:43:42,880 --> 01:43:45,399
have the hood spot like that go through.

2464
01:43:45,640 --> 01:43:49,319
Speaker 2: I listened to an interview with Quality lately and she's

2465
01:43:49,439 --> 01:43:51,479
just I've never seen an interview before and she's just

2466
01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:53,600
so delightful and fun and just seems like the best

2467
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:55,760
person ever. And it was so cool in that interview

2468
01:43:55,800 --> 01:43:57,359
she was talking about like, yeah, you know what, a

2469
01:43:57,359 --> 01:43:59,760
lot of the opportunities I got NEPO baby stuff. But

2470
01:44:00,159 --> 01:44:02,479
then she backs it up by being a badass actor too.

2471
01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:04,680
So I don't know what that is really related, but

2472
01:44:04,720 --> 01:44:06,279
just shows to and I'm.

2473
01:44:06,119 --> 01:44:10,840
Speaker 1: Not trying to like this sounds mean. Colin Hanks, I

2474
01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:12,880
like the guy. He seems like a good enough actor,

2475
01:44:13,279 --> 01:44:15,039
but like you don't see him in a bunch of

2476
01:44:15,039 --> 01:44:17,600
stuff nowadays, right Like he's here and around his you

2477
01:44:17,600 --> 01:44:19,920
can make his argument that his dad's one of the

2478
01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:22,439
greatest actors all the time, two time Academy Award winner,

2479
01:44:22,640 --> 01:44:24,640
And that's where it's like, I think Colin Hanks is

2480
01:44:24,680 --> 01:44:27,039
a good actor, but he was not his dad. And

2481
01:44:27,039 --> 01:44:28,359
that's where it's like, if you don't you.

2482
01:44:28,319 --> 01:44:30,399
Speaker 2: Say that because I saw him in two movies recently,

2483
01:44:30,439 --> 01:44:32,840
but they're both it's Tenacious D and King Kong, which

2484
01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:34,720
are you know, old old movies.

2485
01:44:34,359 --> 01:44:36,840
Speaker 1: At this point, how big is his role in Tenacious D.

2486
01:44:37,439 --> 01:44:41,199
Speaker 2: He might have been cut from the final thing actually seen,

2487
01:44:41,319 --> 01:44:43,319
it's like he's like a he's like a frat bro,

2488
01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:45,479
like throws a can at at Kyle's head.

2489
01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:48,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so we'll see. This is a movie though,

2490
01:44:48,159 --> 01:44:51,279
could easily be like a two out of five on

2491
01:44:51,399 --> 01:44:53,920
letter box. Like I had those type of vibes. I'm

2492
01:44:53,920 --> 01:44:56,159
pretty sure some are we things like husband is like

2493
01:44:56,239 --> 01:44:58,880
writing and or directing it, which can be a good

2494
01:44:59,000 --> 01:45:01,520
or bad thing because sometimes you work well with each

2495
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:03,439
other and sometimes it doesn't. So we'll see.

2496
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:07,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, it gave me Woman of the Hour vibes, only

2497
01:45:07,439 --> 01:45:09,640
in the sense that you know, Woman of the Hour,

2498
01:45:09,720 --> 01:45:14,199
Kendrick and Autumn best really great, but the male guy

2499
01:45:14,279 --> 01:45:15,880
like kind of let me down and kind of made

2500
01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:17,760
the whole thing kind of come down and cality, And

2501
01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:19,800
that's kind of the vibe I was getting here with

2502
01:45:19,840 --> 01:45:24,800
this one. Was I wasn't loving mister Nicholson's situation that

2503
01:45:24,840 --> 01:45:25,680
he had going on here.

2504
01:45:26,439 --> 01:45:28,600
Speaker 1: Dang well, I to see. The thing that worried me

2505
01:45:28,800 --> 01:45:32,159
was I was more happy, like I guess because the

2506
01:45:32,239 --> 01:45:34,239
pitch is that he's kidnapped and they're gonna get married,

2507
01:45:34,319 --> 01:45:36,479
so you need all these people. But I got less

2508
01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:39,560
interested when I met the other people because they felt very,

2509
01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:41,640
very over the top, like there's that girl that has

2510
01:45:41,680 --> 01:45:43,239
like a present with her and she's blood on her,

2511
01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:46,079
and there's some like of course, big lurching dude, So

2512
01:45:47,159 --> 01:45:49,319
I don't know, and then there's only one trail that

2513
01:45:49,319 --> 01:45:50,840
we have talked about, so I don't know if that's

2514
01:45:50,840 --> 01:45:53,159
a good thing or bad thing for you. The surfer

2515
01:45:53,159 --> 01:45:53,319
of me.

2516
01:45:53,479 --> 01:45:55,439
Speaker 2: Well, also, I saw that on the Patreon you had

2517
01:45:55,439 --> 01:45:58,039
a fear street and then you didn't put that in

2518
01:45:58,079 --> 01:45:58,680
the notes to me.

2519
01:45:58,880 --> 01:46:00,840
Speaker 1: I did. I took it off. I took it off

2520
01:46:00,880 --> 01:46:02,800
after I saw it. I'm like, I just don't need

2521
01:46:02,840 --> 01:46:04,640
to make don't watch this because it was it was

2522
01:46:04,680 --> 01:46:06,840
literally just a day announcement. But I'm excited for more.

2523
01:46:06,840 --> 01:46:08,520
First treet, I liked those first three.

2524
01:46:08,439 --> 01:46:10,199
Speaker 2: So yeah, me too. I mean, you know, once again

2525
01:46:10,199 --> 01:46:11,880
they're kind of going down, like, hey, what are some

2526
01:46:11,920 --> 01:46:14,159
tropes that have been done before? But like we're gonna

2527
01:46:14,199 --> 01:46:16,840
spice it up and make it fun and so they're

2528
01:46:16,840 --> 01:46:19,479
doing it again, which, yeah, say for that, but the surfer,

2529
01:46:19,800 --> 01:46:22,319
you know, save the best for last. Potentially. I think

2530
01:46:22,319 --> 01:46:24,479
this is a really great trailer. I think this movie

2531
01:46:24,520 --> 01:46:28,640
looks like super duper fun. I mean, I think Nick Cage,

2532
01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:31,000
I mean, this guy's always doing like seventeen projects a year,

2533
01:46:31,399 --> 01:46:33,119
so it's hard to keep track, but I feel like

2534
01:46:33,159 --> 01:46:35,159
he's on a run that I'm really enjoying right now.

2535
01:46:35,359 --> 01:46:39,479
He's doing some good projects a year now, you know, yeah, yeah,

2536
01:46:39,479 --> 01:46:41,840
but I think this looks so fun, like everyone just

2537
01:46:41,920 --> 01:46:45,439
kind of constantly gawking at him or like making fun

2538
01:46:45,479 --> 01:46:48,600
of him or like terrorizing him. But then like it's creepy,

2539
01:46:48,640 --> 01:46:50,960
and then like some of the cinematography is like wild

2540
01:46:51,119 --> 01:46:55,800
and interesting and I'm I'm very intrigued. I also love

2541
01:46:55,920 --> 01:46:58,479
just how silly the concept is, Like he just goes

2542
01:46:58,479 --> 01:47:01,359
surfing again, realize he loves it, and buys a beach

2543
01:47:01,399 --> 01:47:03,399
house to go surfing again, and then like people are

2544
01:47:03,439 --> 01:47:04,760
mad at him about that. Then it seems like it's

2545
01:47:04,760 --> 01:47:07,840
gonna get existential or trippy at moments, like what's not

2546
01:47:07,880 --> 01:47:09,159
to love? It looks fantastic.

2547
01:47:09,840 --> 01:47:11,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just trying to see what else this uh

2548
01:47:12,119 --> 01:47:15,039
lorc and Finn again, what else if he's directed anything

2549
01:47:15,119 --> 01:47:18,640
or if he's a newer director. Twelve things he's directed,

2550
01:47:18,680 --> 01:47:21,680
but I think they're they're short, so they almost look

2551
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:24,199
like some Florence so nothing real, like he directed like

2552
01:47:24,840 --> 01:47:27,920
a segment on Nightmare Radio. Don't know what that is,

2553
01:47:27,960 --> 01:47:31,640
but there you go. So yeah, so getting his baby

2554
01:47:31,640 --> 01:47:34,079
first crack here. Yeah, this is awestly because like I

2555
01:47:34,119 --> 01:47:36,000
like Nick Cage and it was funny, like I talked about,

2556
01:47:36,039 --> 01:47:38,199
like he's doing good stuff now. I like, I think

2557
01:47:38,199 --> 01:47:39,840
it was last year and Long Lengths came out. He

2558
01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:42,119
did an interview and he talked about like all those

2559
01:47:42,119 --> 01:47:44,800
straight to DVD stuff he did, and he was just

2560
01:47:44,840 --> 01:47:46,199
honest that he said, like he was in a lot

2561
01:47:46,199 --> 01:47:48,239
of debt and he didn't get to choose, but he

2562
01:47:48,359 --> 01:47:50,880
like like he chose, Like he wasn't choosing. He was

2563
01:47:50,920 --> 01:47:53,079
just like what can I do to like make a

2564
01:47:53,119 --> 01:47:54,399
bunch Because this is a guy. At one point, I'm

2565
01:47:54,399 --> 01:47:56,880
pretty sure he owned an island and I'm sure in

2566
01:47:56,920 --> 01:47:59,079
the nineties he was rolling in it like again another

2567
01:47:59,079 --> 01:48:00,800
guy people forget he went Oscar. I'm sure in the

2568
01:48:00,880 --> 01:48:03,640
nineties he was like one of the biggest stars, and

2569
01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:05,960
you know you might make a couple bad purchases. So

2570
01:48:06,000 --> 01:48:08,239
I liked It's like, hey, back then, I couldn't really pick.

2571
01:48:08,319 --> 01:48:10,640
I just did to take whatever I could get the money.

2572
01:48:10,680 --> 01:48:13,239
But I feel like maybe a little bit before then,

2573
01:48:13,279 --> 01:48:15,880
but ever since, Uh god, what's the movie he did

2574
01:48:15,920 --> 01:48:17,640
with Pedro? I'm awful today with.

2575
01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:20,560
Speaker 2: Oh my god, No, I'm on the spot.

2576
01:48:21,560 --> 01:48:27,399
Speaker 1: It's like something something the talentless or the incredible talents.

2577
01:48:27,039 --> 01:48:30,000
Speaker 2: Right, It's like the unbearable weight of massive talent. Okay, yeah,

2578
01:48:31,359 --> 01:48:32,560
let the record be known.

2579
01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:35,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like ever since then, which is kind

2580
01:48:35,279 --> 01:48:37,000
of a funny starting point because I was kind of

2581
01:48:37,000 --> 01:48:41,199
making fun of Nick Cage as like a person. Since then,

2582
01:48:41,399 --> 01:48:44,159
it's been great and this and that looks very fun.

2583
01:48:44,640 --> 01:48:47,439
I this is on my radar for a different reason though,

2584
01:48:47,439 --> 01:48:49,800
because the guy that's like the main he looks like

2585
01:48:49,880 --> 01:48:51,720
the antagonist. The guy has like the red hoodie on

2586
01:48:51,800 --> 01:48:54,000
all the time. I've talked about this many times. Show.

2587
01:48:54,079 --> 01:48:56,279
I absolutely love the TV show Niptok from the two

2588
01:48:56,359 --> 01:48:59,279
thousands and the show but plastic Surgery and oh fuck, I

2589
01:48:59,279 --> 01:49:01,720
forgot we talked to about him. He was he's doctor Doom.

2590
01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:04,520
Remember that's the Doctor Doom actor from the original Fantastic Four.

2591
01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:07,640
So he's in here. And the thing I told you

2592
01:49:07,640 --> 01:49:09,359
guys I kept because I feel like you guys all

2593
01:49:09,359 --> 01:49:12,159
thought out was lie. I'm like Julie Man like can

2594
01:49:12,239 --> 01:49:13,800
be a great actor. This is a guy who was

2595
01:49:13,840 --> 01:49:16,359
like the same time Daniel Craig was auditioning for Bond,

2596
01:49:16,439 --> 01:49:19,439
he was too, like he can have the goods. I

2597
01:49:19,479 --> 01:49:22,600
think he just made some had asient calls or his

2598
01:49:22,680 --> 01:49:25,159
agent made some bad calls on projects, but like he

2599
01:49:25,279 --> 01:49:28,600
has the hoods pun he looked very fun. And what

2600
01:49:28,640 --> 01:49:30,600
I love about this is like he looks like he's

2601
01:49:30,600 --> 01:49:32,279
an antagonist. But it looks like they're gonna go through

2602
01:49:32,279 --> 01:49:34,960
a big journey of like trust and not trust, because

2603
01:49:34,960 --> 01:49:36,399
it did look like he was like they never turned

2604
01:49:36,399 --> 01:49:38,239
it to like and now I'm gonna try and kill him,

2605
01:49:38,239 --> 01:49:39,880
Like it never got to that level. It just always

2606
01:49:39,920 --> 01:49:42,159
looked like they were at each other's next but in

2607
01:49:42,199 --> 01:49:44,479
like a real life situation. At the end, it looks like, Okay,

2608
01:49:44,479 --> 01:49:46,560
we might get a little crazy with some drugs or

2609
01:49:46,960 --> 01:49:50,479
whatever Nick Cage is doing by this fire pit, but yeah,

2610
01:49:50,479 --> 01:49:51,720
I can't wait it comes out, man, I don't know

2611
01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:53,680
if I'll see this in theaters off the way to

2612
01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:55,520
word them out, but it's definitely gonna be seeing it,

2613
01:49:55,560 --> 01:49:58,239
and I cannot I cannot wait, and I'm hopefully I

2614
01:49:58,319 --> 01:50:00,479
hope it comes up with like maybe Golden Keeks or something.

2615
01:50:00,760 --> 01:50:03,319
Also looks like a movie could be incredibly like disappointing,

2616
01:50:03,319 --> 01:50:05,560
but it did the festival run and got some some

2617
01:50:05,640 --> 01:50:07,960
good word of mouth. But yeah, it's feeding my Julia

2618
01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:10,800
mcmahonisms because like same thing like the past few years,

2619
01:50:10,840 --> 01:50:13,479
he was like an FBI, which is like a CBS

2620
01:50:13,520 --> 01:50:16,119
like NCIS show. It's like I can't watch this, Like

2621
01:50:16,239 --> 01:50:18,439
it's always like he's doing stuff like that where it's

2622
01:50:18,439 --> 01:50:21,079
like I can't watch you in FBI, like I love you,

2623
01:50:21,159 --> 01:50:23,920
Julia McMahon, but like do something else and he just

2624
01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:26,479
looks good. So I'm hoping this is like, uh, something

2625
01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:28,359
might seem kind of like Eric Dane when he did

2626
01:50:28,359 --> 01:50:30,840
Euphoria and now he's like in this and that it's

2627
01:50:30,840 --> 01:50:31,880
like oh yeah, I.

2628
01:50:31,880 --> 01:50:33,840
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, what trailer was Eric Dane was? It? Was

2629
01:50:33,880 --> 01:50:36,000
it the one of samr Weaving.

2630
01:50:36,239 --> 01:50:39,239
Speaker 1: It is he's heard security detail that like loser, so

2631
01:50:39,279 --> 01:50:41,520
he's trying to find her. So that sold me too.

2632
01:50:41,560 --> 01:50:43,520
I was like, Oh, Eric Dane, he's like the supporting

2633
01:50:43,560 --> 01:50:46,520
tough guy. That's great. So the same thing since Euphoria

2634
01:50:46,640 --> 01:50:49,000
he had a little run, So I'm hoping this is that.

2635
01:50:49,199 --> 01:50:52,119
But see, I'm sure we'll talk about it because it's

2636
01:50:52,199 --> 01:50:54,640
Nick Cage. Taylor usually sees those and like I said,

2637
01:50:54,640 --> 01:50:57,000
maybe we'll talk about next year. Maybe I would you know,

2638
01:50:57,560 --> 01:51:00,399
the satisfaction I get to have Julia McMahon the Golden

2639
01:51:00,439 --> 01:51:03,000
Geek's best villain, just as it would.

2640
01:51:02,800 --> 01:51:05,840
Speaker 2: Be so fun. That would be a great full circle kind.

2641
01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:09,680
Speaker 1: Do I think it's gonna happen? No, I don't, but

2642
01:51:09,920 --> 01:51:13,039
I'm hoping the movie is so uneniable that you know,

2643
01:51:13,119 --> 01:51:13,720
could happen.

2644
01:51:13,760 --> 01:51:16,239
Speaker 2: But uh, I mean the competition's fears this year. We

2645
01:51:16,279 --> 01:51:19,279
got Alex Luthor out there, Galactus, sper surfers. There's a

2646
01:51:19,359 --> 01:51:22,479
lot of villains this year, right, we do have those?

2647
01:51:22,600 --> 01:51:27,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, who knows, but uh, Waltley's gentlemen. That's it. We

2648
01:51:27,199 --> 01:51:29,239
did Dylan anything else say if we're out here?

2649
01:51:29,920 --> 01:51:31,840
Speaker 2: Absolutely not. That was a great, great episode.

2650
01:51:32,159 --> 01:51:35,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're back together on Monday. At side quest. I

2651
01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:37,880
should put this the beginning for the Gimmicks back we'll

2652
01:51:37,920 --> 01:51:40,680
be doing that. And yeah, Patron, lots of good specials,

2653
01:51:40,680 --> 01:51:44,039
lots of good things. We appreciate the support on everything

2654
01:51:44,039 --> 01:51:46,119
we do. Thank you very much. We'll talk to you

2655
01:51:46,119 --> 01:51:47,439
next week and I'll not be boring