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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented by fan Tracks. Here

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shit Qus, your source of information and analysis to help

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you win your fantasy hockey league. Block off hot a

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step hit on stay lock block. Here's your host, Jesse

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Sovier and Victor Nuno.

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Speaker 2: Fantasy Hockey Life back once again. Jesse sephear in the

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place to be in across the aisle, my buddy, High

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five Victor Nunio. How are you doing today?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great, Jessey. It's going to be back. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I had a little time off hanging out in Colorado, skiing,

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doing outdoorsy things and attending a conference. I really enjoyed

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the time you and Ryan had together. But it's going

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to be back, my friend.

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Speaker 3: How are you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: No, Ryan and I had a good time. I wish

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I had realized that Anton Frondell was a couple of

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days from NBA games as I as I noted that

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he played last night NBA. Yeah, no, he's playing in

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the NBA now too. He's that good. He's that good.

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The Bulls needed somebody because they suck. No, he's went

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for the Blackhawks. But yeah, anti front dell Man. Yeah,

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I'm making a waiver claim. As we speak Victor. We

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got a lot of excitement going. Man, it's near the

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end of the fantasy playoffs. I'm having an awful Fantasy playoffs.

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I'm not gonna lie. It might be destroying my credibility

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as a fantasy hockey host. But it's not been the

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best year. It's been good year for basketball and baseball,

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bad year for football and hockey unfortunately. How about you, man,

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do you still have some survivors in your teams?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was not the best year for me either.

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There was a couple of upsets and the semi finals.

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In fact, one league, I was in the semi finals

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and there was a stack correction a week into the

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semi finals that knocked me out.

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Speaker 3: I think that's ride us. How can you have a

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stack correction a week later.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to the last day thinking I'm playing for

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a spot in the finals, and then it all got

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pulled out from under me. But that was I was

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upset about that. But I do have one finals that's

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our common league that we've talked about before. I'm in

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the final, surprisingly actually, because I've won that league a

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few times. But this I didn't think was my year,

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even though I finished second in the regular season. My

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team is old and so injured after the finals after

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the Olympics. Sorry, I had Crosby, Ronton and Fiala like

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all those guys were out for a long time after

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the Olympics, but I somehow still made it to the finals.

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I'm probably gonna get spanked. I am getting spanked, but

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at least I'm there, so I'll get a participation trophy. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I scrapped my way into the Experts League playoffs the FSGA,

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and I think I might be able to win here

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in the quarters, but we'll see. We'll see how that goes.

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Still surviving, I'm still scratching. I got in the playoffs

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about five points in a points match up the other night.

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But yeah, no enough of us, Victor. People want to

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hear about players. People want to hear about prospects, and

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that's exactly what they're.

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Speaker 1: Going to get.

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Speaker 2: On the other side of this break, it's another edition

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of the Dynasty Stockwatch. Victor is a big writer for

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mckeans and he does things for different prospect systems. Last week,

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Ryan and I tried to cover a few of them

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that we don't expect we're gonna be able to make

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it to before the summer preview series. But for right now,

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we are covering two more systems. Today, we're covering the

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Saint Louis Blues and the Philadelphia Flyers Victor. Before we

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get into the individuals, any general takes on whether these

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are among your more interesting prospect systems.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.

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Speaker 4: Philly is interesting because they've gone through this phase where

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I think they are. They went with Mitchkoff and specifically

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with a few of their picks, they went kind of

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in a direction that was more skill based. For a

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long time, they had a type which was like the

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big tough guy when they'd picked em Andre and Denver

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Barkie and some guys that were a little bit smaller

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and skilled, and then they I think corrected back to

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their usual big tough guys. Even though Martone isn't the

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tough skuy, he is big and hard to knock off

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the puck. So I feel like they've leaned back into

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what we expected of them. But also a lot of

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their guys aren't super high upside that aren't in the NHL,

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so that's why there's a couple of goalies on here,

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which is interesting. And Saint Louis is they've retooled, which

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I think has been brilliant, and I think a lot

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of their guys are really interesting. So I think they're

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one of the more interesting ones because they've got a

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lot of guys who could be great or could just

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be guys. And that's the difference between being a serious

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contender and just being a tween er playoff team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, these are two teams that do have that reputation

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for drafting the Bruisers. So let's get it started off

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with the Saint Louis Blues and Dallibor divorcekey because remember

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it's not just prospects kids, this is dynasty stockquatch, so

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we do talk about some guys who are in the

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NHL already. Dalibor is listed as a cell in your

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mckeans and after Cam you in the NHL last year.

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He's been up pretty much all season. The results are

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mixed advanced that suggest the team has better results when

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the third liner is off the ice then on, and

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that goes for both offense and defense. The expected physicality

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typical of these Blues prospects is there. With Devorski, he's

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well over hit per game. His best scoring was in

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the week's leading up to the Olympics, and then he

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went on a point per game pace in Cortino, Milano,

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second on his team in scoring. I'll take into account

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of bet on Devorski is a bet on the come.

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Will he be able to continue to mature and move

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up that lineup, especially if the new Alex Stein administration

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in Saint Louis coming up next year moves to where

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rebuild trades players from the top of the lineup, Like

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you say, maybe rebuild on the fly a little bit,

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maybe create an opportunity for Divorski. And the comparison that

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the NHL ranking Mason Black gives us this week is

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Berkeley Catton of the Seattle Kraken versus Dallaboard of Orski

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and Devorski out just barely ahead fifty two to forty

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eight percent over Catten, And like Dvorski, nobody's really sick

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of Catton yet because he was drafted roughly the same

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spot a year later, and dead heat kind of seems

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about on target for these two guys who were just

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hoping can make big gains on their first maybe slow

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start in the NHL. But what do you think of

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this picture?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this is interesting. Bet it's pretty close,

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I would imagine, I think the biggest thing, and I've

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mentioned this all along, which is one reason to really

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another feather in the cap of paying for the FHL

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player cards, because we've known all along that Berkeley Catten

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is going to be a very light, priff kind of guy.

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And I think that's what everyone has experienced in this year.

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It is hard to roster that guy, even though he's

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been in the NHL, Like, he just doesn't do anything

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a lot of nights, barely shoots, doesn't really hit or

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block very much. So if he can get you points, great,

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And I do still think Cadden has the higher upside.

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I think his points upside is huge, a bit like Carlson,

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although Carlson has had more success to date in terms

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of his NHL success. But I think that's the kind

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of profile you're looking at someone who like a Dylan Strom.

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finals in that league I was telling about Dylan Strom

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is just causing me to tear whatever hair I have

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about left. He's doing absolutely nothing. But that's the kind

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of player. But we've also seen the feast part of

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that famine, right, We've seen how he can get tons

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of points, and if you're passing to an elite scorer,

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which the Kraken don't have, it could be great. And

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that's the issue with Cadden is that who he's a

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great playmaker, but who is he setting up to cash

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in on those goals. I don't know that the kra

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can have that. I don't know that they will have that.

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go big fish hunting, but I don't know that they're

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Speaker 3: So I still think.

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Speaker 4: Kdden has more upside. But Devorski has been yeah bit

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of a revelation. He had an awesome Olympics. I wrote

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about that at Dauber as well, and he's been great

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and in his time in the NHL it hasn't been

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super amazing, but he is a very offensive guy. It's

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interesting I pulled up the evolving hockey metrics for both

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of these guys and they're in the NHL this year,

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and they're just both awful. They're young in their NHL career.

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They struggle defensively. Divorski actually a little better than Catten defensively,

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similarly bad offensively. Overall, their ranks are tenth, eleventh and

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tenth for Cadden and Divorski respectively, and their offensive ranks

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are fourteenth and eighteenth respectively, defensively twenty second and thirty first.

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So you're talking about guys that are really struggling to

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translate to the NHL, even though we've seen some modest

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success for both the hockey prospecting between the two has

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Divorski actually much better, and part of that is because

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of his more prominent success in the NHL this year.

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I still think I like Caten better, but again I

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think a lot of it comes down to the context.

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Are they going to be able to surround him with

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enough talent so he can show what he can do?

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That I'm very skeptical of, so in that con in

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that from that perspective, I like Divorski better because I

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think there's a lot more talent in Saint Louis that

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Speaker 3: I hate making.

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Speaker 4: Decisions based on who's around you, because all it takes

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his one trade or one contact situation. Maybe they land

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a maybe, sayatle Land's a great goalscoring free agent. Unlikely,

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but if they did, I would completely change a track

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diectory for Catton. So I guess I agree with the

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people here in terms of what I'm seeing in front

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of me. But I still like Catten better as an

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individual if he could just get better players to play around.

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Speaker 3: But could you think Jesse.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like I said, way too early to give up

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on a guy like Catton. So we'll just see. We'll

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see which one of these guys is able to grow

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more quickly and more effectively. Next we're going to go

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to the blue line. Logan Mayu is listed as a

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sell for you from the Blues. In some ways, it's

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been a slow first season for Myu in Saint Louis,

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but actually he's trending up recently. Maybe that makes me

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sell hi ish if this is the peak. But he

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has been rising in importance for the team in the

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last month, switching from Cam Fowler to Philip Roberg as

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a partner, getting power play two minutes. Basically he's been

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the beneficiary of Justin Falks minutes. He'sn't filling in exactly

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for Justin Fox, but it's making room for him in

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the top four for Saint Louis. Yeah, he's been playing.

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He's even been getting a little bit of power playtime,

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but he certainly hasn't produced for the season. He's only

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got smattering of points, and we're going to put him

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in the NHL ranking poll up against Tom Willander of

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the Vancouver Canucks. This and also this poll was taken

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a couple of weeks ago, so it was before Mayu's

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more recent streak. But then I'm not sure that the

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kind of crowd who's sharp enough to be doing the

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Mason Black King poles is necessarily swayed by two weeks

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worth of data. Because will Lander wins this in a

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route eighty eight to twelve percent comes out way better

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than Mayu. There's obviously the sour memories of Mayu in

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the minds of many, but is this a true indicator

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of the difference in talent Yere Victor.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, probably.

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Speaker 4: I do think that I like Velander better as an

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overall defender. Mayu has more offense upside. As you mentioned,

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the trend has been in the right direction, but a

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lot of his metrics still show some pretty putrid results,

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which I'll mention in a minute. What's really interesting to

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Vlander was that he was going to be a good

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all around defenseman. He was really mature defensively, A lot

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he jumps to the NHL and his defensive metrics are

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just awful, like fourth percentile for offense. So everything I

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knew is not correct about Tom Velander and his offense,

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which I thought would be modest and limited and wasn't

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that dynamic, and playing with the Hudsons there at BU

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he jumps to the NHL and he's immediately fifty first

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percentile for offense, better than average, better than an average

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NHL defenseman offensively. I don't understand it. Everything is upside

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down right now for Tom Velander. Maybe he's just getting

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free willing a little bit more because the Canucks are

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just looking for some excitement and something positive to hang

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their hat on. I don't know, but I do think

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that one thing that is clear to me is that

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Tom Vlander will be more important to his NHL team

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than Logan Mayu will be, and so that is going

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to help with asset management. I think you'll be able

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to leverage that if you have him, So I would

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definitely prefer Lelander for that reason.

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Speaker 3: May you maybe.

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Speaker 4: Making himself into an NHL defender after all his last

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few weeks. I don't know, but if you look at

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his evolving hockey metrics, he's played over a thousand minutes

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in the NHL this season, he is currently one percentile overall.

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I don't think you can have zero, So he is

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basically the bottom of the barrel for overall and for offense,

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and defensively he's six percent tile. So he's basically statistically

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one of the worst defensemen who's actually playing.

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Speaker 3: In the league right now.

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Speaker 4: So if he gets a little bit better, great, that's

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still not a whole lot to write home about. So

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he's to me, Logan Mayo is trending to be not

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an NHL defender. Maybe he'll be like a Tony DiAngelo

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at some point, but I don't think his offense is

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anywhere near that good. So I had him listed as

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a sell. I would definitely use this window of positive

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narrative around him to get what you can for Logan

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my U, because I don't think it's gonna get much better.

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dry up a little bit, especially with Ebulliam there and

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maybe some other options they have, But I still think

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he'll be a reasonable asset to hold on to in

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terms of what But don't think, but don't think Vellander

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is suddenly this offensive gift, because I don't think that's

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actually true.

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Speaker 2: Don't take that away from Canucks fans, Victor. They have

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so little. Let's move on to another defenseman for these Blues.

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Adam your check, I think you're a little more excited

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about this Fela because you made him as a buy

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in your McKean's article. He is on the first place

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OHL team, the Branford Bulldogs. He's their defenseman one. He's

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over a point per game as a defenseman, obviously, and

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thriving in the OHL. He played in his third World

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Junior's WGC twenties, that is this year. Presumably he will

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be moving up from the CHL to at least the

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AHL in the near future, with the mainstays on the

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Blues blue line starting to transition out, perhaps justin Falk

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being the canary in the coal mine, maybe again Alex Steen.

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Maybe who knows what's going to happen to that pro roster.

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So your check goes up against kayshaun Aitchison talked about

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him last week, the one of the first round picks

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of the New York Islanders this year, and Adam Irachek

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does edge out Ahison fifty four to forty six percent.

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It does not surprise me that ira Check comes out

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a little head. These are two quality players. I almost

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actually feel like ira Check should be farther ahead with

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the season he's having. Maybe people discount the competition, Maybe

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people think it was another guy with the same last name.

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I don't know. Tell us about Eurcheck, tell us about

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Huson Victor.

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Speaker 4: You mentioned falk a couple times, and I know he's

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not there anymore. But Falk is the only sorry Mayu

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was the only person Falk wasn't worse than on the

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Saint Louis Blue line, So he was pretty bad. I

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think that pretty much anyone they replaced him with should

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be able to be reasonable or better. Another curious decision

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by Stevie wy There to acquire him. But anyway, So

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about Adam Yirchik, guest definitely more excited about him as

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we're recording this. He just got named CHL Defenseman of

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the Month for the second month this year, So yeah,

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he's definitely having a great season for the brand for Bulldogs.

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Speaker 3: He had a great.

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Speaker 4: World junior and yeah, a reminder that Adam Muirchek is

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very young for this draft class, for his draft class, sorry,

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and so he will actually turn twenty this summer. So

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everything he's done has been a little bit earlier in

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the funnel and he has a lot more development room

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to grow, which I think is also really important to show.

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And he's been awesome for Brandford this year. He probably

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will spend some time in the HL. Maybe he breaks camp,

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maybe breaks the team out of camp. We'll see, but

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he'll certainly have an opportunity. But yeah, he's been awesome.

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He definitely has less mobility issues than his older brother David,

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who is really struggling to be an NHL defenceman with

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some of his pivots and mobility. So Adam was always

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a little bit better than smoother skater with that. He

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is definitely on a juggernaut of an OHL team, so

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maybe a lot of the offense isn't as good, but

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I think he's definitely trending positively. And it's interesting what

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we've said about Hison, who some people are talking about

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what if you switch them or put them in different positions.

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Hison has been great for Barry, and I think that

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he has looked really good, showing a lot more offense.

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But he's also the captain there and showing some really

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positive numbers there. But I'm not sure that necessarily is.

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Speaker 3: Going to continue.

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Speaker 4: They are a great OHL team if you put him

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on one of the bottom both both Barry and Branford

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are tops of their division. But if you switched both

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of these guys with a lower OHL team, I think

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the narrative would be quite different. So I think that's

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interesting to think about. I don't think Kishawn Ahison suddenly

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discovered this amazing offensive side that he never had. I

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think that's probably a false narrative. But his hockey prospecting

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has trended up. He's up to thirty one chance of

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being a star. I think the biggest thing for Chison

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has always been and will continue to be his hits

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and his physicality. And he's pretty good for Bash, although

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year check overall is better for Bash. He hits more,

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blocks more and shoots more. So you might be thinking, oh,

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Achison probably for BASH leagues like him more. No, I'd

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still like I'd still your check. I think he has

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more upside for scoring and all around upside, so I

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definitely would stick with year Check. But Chison is definitely

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someone I would like. I think he'll probably settle into

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that second or third pair role. Be more of a

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matchup guy. Have some physicality, give you some bash and

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maybe some secondary scoring. We know who's running the power

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play in on Long Island for years to come, so

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he's not going to get a sniff of that. I

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don't even think he gets power puly too. Frankly, I

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don't think that'll be his role at the next level

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because ron Aitchison.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the opportunity has been open in Saint Louis really

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since what since Patraangelo left? I don't know, since Tory

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Krue was there. Anyway, let's move on. The next guy

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is also a by Justin Carboneau, the first round Blues pick.

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Carboneau is in year four of his QMJHL tenure with

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the Blaineville bos Brown Armada. As per usual, he's around

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one point or one and a third points per game,

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and at last check, Justin Carboneau's fifty one goals were

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tied for the lead league in the queue with maxim

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Masse really impressive stuff. Justin Carboneau is is blowing it

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up there. We put him up against Consta Helenius in

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the NHL ranking poll, and old Consta had him pretty good.

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It was seventy nine to twenty one percent result. People

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rightly trust the positive early returns of a guy in

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the NHL who's got a little bit of this, got

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a little bit of prospect, prospect cred and was a

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point per game in the AHL over somebody who's been

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blowing up points in the queue. But still, this is

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quite a blowout vector. Are we sleeping on Carboneau or

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how does he compare to Hellnius?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is one of those where I want both

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for sure. I like Justin Carboneau. It is a bit

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of a blowout. I think the strong production in the

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AHL it isn't always so simple as oh great in

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the AHL. But when you're a teenager, which Helenius has

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been a teenager in the AHL the past two seasons,

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and so when you look at that combined eighty three

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points in one hundred and fifteen games as the teenager

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in the AHL, he's not turning twenty till May eleventh.

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That is some impressive stuff and definitely projects very well

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to being a star at the next level, which is

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why his hockey prospecting has maintained at forty percent chance

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of being a star. I think that's very robust and

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very accurate for what Helenius is doing. You can't blame

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Carboneau for playing in the queue. I mean, that's where

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he is and that's all he can do is what's

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in front of him, and it's been great. I think

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the Q has gotten a little bit stronger this year,

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so some people look at his down production slightly from

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last year and maybe look at it as a knock.

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I think he's grown a lot in other ways. I

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think his transition and defensive game have been much better,

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and the quality of competition is better. I don't see

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it as a huge knock for him. But Carboneau is

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definitely just your score.

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Speaker 3: Kind of guy.

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Speaker 4: He's not the kind of guy you're going to put

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out there for defensive reasons. Helenius is definitely more of

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your all situations kind of guy. I think he could

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probably be that long term two. See, they definitely want

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to put him at center, even if he's a winger.

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He's a pretty reasonable play driver, and you know, I

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think he has still have some pretty decent scoring upsides.

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So in terms of more valuable to the team, probably

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Helenius would be. So I think when you're thinking about

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asset management, that's something to think about. But Carboneau, the

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question is can he be a top line winger or

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is he more of a middle six? I think more

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realistically he's middle six, but I still think he has

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that upside to be a top liner, and in some

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ways reminds me of that Kyle Connor type. Although he

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hits some blocks a little bit more, but he's you

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need to mention in terms of his offense and not

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someone you're going to put out there necessarily to protect

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the league. I'll lead, although his defense is getting better,

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So I understand Helenius. Year. Between the two, I would

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pick Hellennius, but I would want both in this poll.

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Speaker 3: Why not?

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Speaker 2: Figure?

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Speaker 3: Why not both? I love it?

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Speaker 2: Next up, Jimmy Snugs Jimmy Snugger Root another buye for

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you on the Saint Louis Blues roster, and again another

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guy who's establishing himself in the NHL in a shallow league.

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I've been able to semi regularly stream him when the

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Blues have a favorable schedule, which seems like something I'm

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not going to be able to get away with much longer,

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and I've been rewarded. Certainly, He's nowhere available to you

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in a dynasty league because everybody has known about him

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on his way up. He has averaged over two shots

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and a hit for the season and up to thirty

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six points in fifty seven games, twenty of those points

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coming in the last eighteen games, so he's firing. He's

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sizzling at over a point per game rate in the

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last couple of months. Here, Snugger Root goes up against

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Titchiginla Old tich Man. Tish is always getting brought up

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in these segments. We drag him into the discussion, which

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is actually a nice excuse to check in on his

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dominating WHL season. Let us not forget if we were

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wondering how Tish was going to do in his post

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injury revenge tour. It is ninety points in forty eight games,

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easily topping the league in points per game. This year,

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he's got one point eight eight points per game, the

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second best WHL mark one point five to nine. That

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is one point eight eight one point five to nine.

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What do you think Victor, Jimmy snug Rud Titch again,

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Latij by the way I did, I don't think I

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said it sixty seven to thirty three percent over snugger Rude.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that it should be that high. That's

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pretty dramatic for Againla and I get it, as you

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mentioned it has had some injuries, so always good to

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checking on him. He's he played five seasons the WHL

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and he's still under one hundred and eighty five games

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as we record this, which as after five seasons, should

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probably be closer to three fifty or so, and so

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he definitely has not played that many games, which is

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always a bit of a concern that the sample size

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isn't as robust.

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Speaker 3: But he's doing all he.

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Speaker 4: Can do, nearing that two point per game mark for Kolowna,

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and he's just been awesome. So I think the upside

475
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,000
there is huge. But I think you can't ignore what

476
00:22:59,079 --> 00:23:01,920
snug Rood is our already doing in the NHL right now.

477
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,119
Thirty seven points in fifty eight games, nothing to sneeze at.

478
00:23:05,279 --> 00:23:07,160
He had a little bit of cameo last season which

479
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,039
looked pretty good. And the Saint Louis situation hasn't been.

480
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 3: Great, right.

481
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 4: They've dealt with a lot of turmoil and guys leaving

482
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,559
and potentially getting traded and not getting traded, So it's

483
00:23:16,599 --> 00:23:18,440
been a lot for him to agnate and navigate. And

484
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,720
I think he's just been great this season in terms offensively.

485
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,880
You look at his evolving Hockey chart and Snuggrood is

486
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,640
pretty bad defensively, but offensively he's already in the sixty

487
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,119
second percentile and he isn't doing it all in the offense.

488
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,079
His offense, his even strength offense, has been great. His

489
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,359
goal saive above expected is one of the tops in

490
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:34,799
the league.

491
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 3: That's pretty great.

492
00:23:35,759 --> 00:23:38,839
Speaker 4: Ginla hopes to be that someday. I think Againla will

493
00:23:38,839 --> 00:23:42,240
probably be better all around than snugarud It. He'll probably

494
00:23:42,319 --> 00:23:44,799
be like your top six winger that you can put

495
00:23:44,839 --> 00:23:47,079
out in different situations and help protect the lead and

496
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,960
different things like that. But I think all in all,

497
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,079
you're hoping Againla has a season like this in two

498
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:52,759
or three years.

499
00:23:52,759 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 3: So it depends on your competitive window.

500
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 4: If you're ready to compete now or soon, then I

501
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,920
don't know why you would take a Guinla over snugg

502
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,480
rud because he's already there. But if you're a little

503
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,079
bit patient and you think that maybe Againla has slightly

504
00:24:04,079 --> 00:24:06,960
more upside than Snuggood, which is probably true. I think

505
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,119
they're really close, but maybe Againla has slightly more, then

506
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,160
sure you can take Againla. But I don't think this

507
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,920
poll should be I don't think Againla should be doubling

508
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:15,680
up on Snuggrood.

509
00:24:15,759 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 3: Jesse.

510
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, take a break, Victor, come back and talk about

511
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:44,440
another prospect system. As you said, Victor, the second prospect

512
00:24:44,519 --> 00:24:48,000
system for today the Philadelphia Flyers, and we're gonna start

513
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,039
out with the cell from that system. It is Denver Barki,

514
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,039
the high flying former captain of the London Knights, has

515
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,000
established himself in the NHL now the majority of his

516
00:24:57,079 --> 00:24:59,359
games were played in Philly this year. Have been played

517
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,480
in Philly this year, compared to the AHL, where he's

518
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,319
also spent some time. I can't complain about the deployment

519
00:25:06,319 --> 00:25:08,720
in Philadelphia does not have There's no McDavid dry side

520
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,000
of the lines up here, but Sean Katurier and Owen

521
00:25:11,039 --> 00:25:14,000
Tippett for quite a while, more recently Matt Vean Mitchikoff.

522
00:25:14,079 --> 00:25:17,359
These are not fourth line scrubs that Denver Barkie gets

523
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,319
to skate beside, and so as results, there's a typical

524
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,640
rookie third liner with a hit per game thirteen average

525
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,200
time on ice. I think the only place I roster

526
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,519
him is I looked across our leagues. Is our common

527
00:25:28,559 --> 00:25:32,160
team that you and I managed together? And so, yeah,

528
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,559
Denver Barky a little bit slow as a start, but

529
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,640
obviously making a huge transition jumping right from the O

530
00:25:38,279 --> 00:25:41,839
to the NHL. He is going up in the NHL

531
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:47,039
ranking poll, up against Culin Potter of the Calgary Flames.

532
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,720
He's done well two straight years that Arizona State has

533
00:25:49,759 --> 00:25:53,160
Potter and he did not make the Arizona State did

534
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,359
not make the big skate dance? Is that what can

535
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,279
we call it? It's the big dance when the hockey

536
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,359
or when the basketball players do it, So can we

537
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,359
call it the skate dancing like they have at the

538
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,720
Olympics if they make the Frozen four. I'm going to

539
00:26:03,799 --> 00:26:05,599
try to make that happen, but we'll see it might

540
00:26:05,599 --> 00:26:10,839
be fetch. Is Colin Potter of the mediocre Arizona State

541
00:26:11,519 --> 00:26:14,240
Arizona State to sun Devils this year really better than

542
00:26:14,279 --> 00:26:17,440
Barkie or is he just further behind in the funnel

543
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,119
because he wins this poll fifty nine to forty one percent.

544
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 4: I think that Potter probably has a little bit more upside.

545
00:26:24,039 --> 00:26:26,440
It's really interesting. I'm glad Mason picked these two because

546
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,920
they're both kind of undersized, speedy, feisty type of players

547
00:26:30,559 --> 00:26:33,240
in different systems, one a couple of years ahead of

548
00:26:33,279 --> 00:26:35,799
the other, so I think that they are similar in

549
00:26:35,839 --> 00:26:38,759
a lot of ways. We already, of course, are seeing

550
00:26:38,799 --> 00:26:41,480
Barkie in the NHL. He's split some time between there

551
00:26:41,519 --> 00:26:44,920
and the AHL, and he's feisty, he's competitive, he has

552
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,680
some value. Mostly it's been as a defensive forward. He's

553
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,359
actually Denver. Barkie has been great defensively for the Philadelphia

554
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,599
Flyers this year, seventy six percentile for defense, really reliable

555
00:26:56,759 --> 00:26:59,880
in that situation. His offense hasn't been good, just fourteenth percent.

556
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,839
But at least he can be reliable on that end,

557
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,799
which you know is something that's hard for a lot

558
00:27:04,799 --> 00:27:06,799
of young players. We just talked about some other players

559
00:27:06,839 --> 00:27:09,359
earlier who were really struggling defensively, So at least he

560
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,880
can do that. Maybe some of that offense can come,

561
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,480
but a lot of it. I think Barkie is just

562
00:27:13,519 --> 00:27:16,200
going to be an energy type forward. I'm not sure

563
00:27:16,279 --> 00:27:19,440
he has that high end skill to be more and

564
00:27:19,519 --> 00:27:21,240
so I do agree with this poll, and I think

565
00:27:21,279 --> 00:27:23,720
that Potter is who I would take, not just because

566
00:27:23,759 --> 00:27:25,279
he's lower in the funnel, but I do think he

567
00:27:25,319 --> 00:27:27,319
has a little bit more upside. He has been great

568
00:27:27,759 --> 00:27:33,720
for Arizona State for the last couple of seasons he's had.

569
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,599
This one was overpoint per game. Last season he left

570
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,680
the USNTDP and was twenty two points and thirty five games,

571
00:27:40,279 --> 00:27:43,839
and this season he's down at twenty ninth for points

572
00:27:43,839 --> 00:27:46,839
per game in the NCUBLEA. Not bad, especially playing for

573
00:27:47,039 --> 00:27:50,440
not a powerhouse in the NCUBLEA, but as you mentioned,

574
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,079
their team didn't quite make it all the way, so

575
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,680
that's pretty good. And Potter is just really a fast,

576
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:59,559
excellent in transition and his that's one of the best

577
00:27:59,559 --> 00:28:02,440
things about his Fantasy Hockey Life Skater card that you

578
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,880
can see, as his transition game is elite. He's pretty

579
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,319
good at puck battles and loose puck recovery. Some of

580
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,960
his play driving is good. Doesn't really bash that much though,

581
00:28:10,079 --> 00:28:13,839
hit some blocks pretty low, so mostly you're looking for

582
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,640
offense and scoring threat, and I think he can be that.

583
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,240
I do have him rated higher than Barkie, and I

584
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,880
would definitely lean that way looking at the hockey, looking

585
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:27,599
at the hockey prospecting. Between the two, it definitely leans Barkie.

586
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,079
He graduated a thirteen percent chance of being a star,

587
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,279
and Potter increased his potential up to nine percent, but

588
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,279
still not that high either way.

589
00:28:35,319 --> 00:28:36,759
Speaker 3: I'm still going Potter here, Jesse.

590
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, both of them smaller gentleman, the five eight, five

591
00:28:41,759 --> 00:28:43,960
to nine, respectively, But I do like that the five

592
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,960
eight Barkie throws more than a hitting game at thirteen

593
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,000
minutes my style. That tells me he little, but he's tough.

594
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,799
Moving on, we got Jack Nesbit a cell that you're

595
00:28:53,839 --> 00:28:57,480
listening for the Philadelphia Flyers. He was last year's first

596
00:28:57,559 --> 00:29:00,200
round pick, the second first round pick last year. There's

597
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,720
a certain earlier first round pick. It might come up

598
00:29:02,759 --> 00:29:05,759
later in the episode, but he continues to spit hot

599
00:29:05,759 --> 00:29:09,000
fire up in windsor does Jack Nesbit. He's not one

600
00:29:09,039 --> 00:29:11,200
of the very top scorers on the team, but he

601
00:29:11,319 --> 00:29:13,680
does have a point per game for them. His scoring

602
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,799
has improved markedly in the last month he had a

603
00:29:15,799 --> 00:29:18,400
hat trick in the last week. So Nebuit is on

604
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,559
the upward trajectory right now in the OHL and he

605
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,039
is a tall drink of water, Old Jack Nesbit, a

606
00:29:24,039 --> 00:29:27,160
big fellow, and he's going up in this NHL ranking

607
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,759
poll against Lyndon Lakovich of the Washington Capitals. He's come

608
00:29:30,839 --> 00:29:34,160
up a couple of times for US drafted actually fifteen

609
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:38,000
picks later in the first round last year, and the

610
00:29:38,039 --> 00:29:41,039
people out there seemed to like Lackovich more seventy one

611
00:29:41,119 --> 00:29:44,759
to twenty nine percent over Nesbit, which out west getting

612
00:29:44,759 --> 00:29:48,319
more love than Nesbit back east. Is this supposed to

613
00:29:48,359 --> 00:29:51,319
be this big of a margin, Nesbit losing seventy one

614
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:52,759
to twenty nine victor of what do you think?

615
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,319
Speaker 3: Yeah? Probably.

616
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 4: I think there's no question what Philly was doing with

617
00:29:57,759 --> 00:30:00,519
this pick. They were looking at the draft when they

618
00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:03,039
were on the clock at twelve, and I said at

619
00:30:03,079 --> 00:30:04,839
the time, and I maintained that there were way better

620
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,119
options on the board, but they wanted a center and

621
00:30:07,119 --> 00:30:08,759
they wanted a big, beefy guy, and.

622
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 3: That's exactly what they got.

623
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:15,359
Speaker 4: So they they got Nesbit and he's gonna continue to

624
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,960
be those things. Big, tall, physical is he going to

625
00:30:18,039 --> 00:30:20,440
be skilled enough to translate a lot of this. I

626
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,519
don't know he does play for Windsor who's a good

627
00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:25,960
team in the Western Conference of the AHL. Anyways, I

628
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,680
don't think his scoring has been that impressive. His hockey

629
00:30:28,759 --> 00:30:31,039
prospecting had him at twelve percent chance of being a

630
00:30:31,039 --> 00:30:34,720
star last year. This year it's ten percent. Lakovich has

631
00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:38,200
had slightly stocked down, even though he is still doing

632
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,759
well for Moosjaw. I had some injuries this season, but

633
00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:42,759
he went down from eighteen to fifteen percent chance of

634
00:30:42,799 --> 00:30:45,640
a star. But I still think that Lakovic has way

635
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,119
more offensive upside, and between the two, which are both

636
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,240
big guys, Lakovich a little bit of a worse skater

637
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,920
and a little less physical. But I would still take

638
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,079
Lakovich over Nesbit any day. I think he has way

639
00:30:58,079 --> 00:31:01,599
more upside than Nesbit. I think is probably a middle

640
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,640
sorry a bottom six center, and Lakovich at least has

641
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,079
the upside to be a middle six I off, not

642
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,160
top six wingers. So I definitely think there's a lot

643
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,319
more potential there for Lakovich, even though he turned down

644
00:31:12,319 --> 00:31:13,079
a little bit this year.

645
00:31:13,079 --> 00:31:15,759
Speaker 3: In fact, it might be a good by window for

646
00:31:15,839 --> 00:31:17,240
Lennon Lakovich. That's bit.

647
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,599
Speaker 4: I would definitely use this opportunity to sell. If he's

648
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,240
a little bit stock up based on his OHL performance,

649
00:31:22,319 --> 00:31:25,799
I would try to get what you can for him,

650
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,000
would be my advice.

651
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,599
Speaker 2: Sounds good. Moving on to another cell. Last year's mid

652
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,839
first round pick of the Flyers was Jet Luchenko. He

653
00:31:35,039 --> 00:31:37,519
recently moved to Branford. He'd been the captain of Gwelph

654
00:31:37,599 --> 00:31:39,920
for two years and now he's moved to Branford. As

655
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,759
aforementioned Branford. That is the steamroller up in the OHL

656
00:31:43,799 --> 00:31:46,160
this year. That's winning a lot of things. He's already

657
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,759
been point per game there, which is a good sign.

658
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,920
Although he's obviously he just doesn't have the same role

659
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,839
with that team, but he is on the development. In

660
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:59,079
this case, he is up against Connor Geeky of the

661
00:31:59,359 --> 00:32:02,160
Connor Geeky of the Lightning, who's actually had a few

662
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:07,559
NHL games drafted several years beforehand. And Connor Geeky is

663
00:32:07,599 --> 00:32:10,519
winning this matchup eighty three to seventeen percent. And Victor,

664
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,079
do you think the voters thought we meant Morgan Geeky

665
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:14,200
instead of Connor Geeky.

666
00:32:14,759 --> 00:32:18,039
Speaker 3: Probably not, but that is dential potential.

667
00:32:18,559 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 2: It's a theory.

668
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is an interesting one.

669
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 4: I have mentioned. We've talked about Luchanko before, and I

670
00:32:24,519 --> 00:32:28,839
do feel like they mismanaged him a little bit. He's

671
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,559
been kind of monkey around a little bit. He made

672
00:32:32,599 --> 00:32:36,279
the NHL team last season, got a few games, went

673
00:32:36,319 --> 00:32:38,799
back to the AHL, and then back down to the

674
00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:41,920
O and he's been fine there.

675
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 3: He was good for GWELF, then got traded to Brandford.

676
00:32:44,039 --> 00:32:45,880
The thing is he didn't. I feel like that.

677
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 4: Kind of messed with him last year and he wasn't

678
00:32:48,119 --> 00:32:53,079
amazing for GWELF, and then this year he got He's

679
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,200
again made the team and then got sent down after

680
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,039
four games and then got traded after eleven games. So

681
00:32:58,079 --> 00:33:01,519
it's been all over the place for Luchenko. And then

682
00:33:01,839 --> 00:33:04,039
on Branford, he's definitely more of a depth player for

683
00:33:04,079 --> 00:33:06,279
them because they're such a good team. So I'm not

684
00:33:06,319 --> 00:33:08,720
sure any of that has done him any favors. But

685
00:33:08,759 --> 00:33:10,480
the reality is that I never thought he was going

686
00:33:10,519 --> 00:33:13,240
to be this big time scorer anyways. Like he's really fast,

687
00:33:13,279 --> 00:33:16,319
he's really good, two way kind of guy. I think

688
00:33:16,359 --> 00:33:19,440
he's has a chance to be in above average forward,

689
00:33:19,559 --> 00:33:21,559
but I don't think it's much more than average. He's

690
00:33:21,559 --> 00:33:25,119
really good in transition, and he's a guy who can

691
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,559
plug some holes and fill different roles on that team,

692
00:33:27,839 --> 00:33:29,680
which I think is why Philly likes him. But I'm

693
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,359
not sure that's going to be great for your fantasy option.

694
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,440
You want the guy who is definitely going to be

695
00:33:34,559 --> 00:33:36,559
top power play in top six, and I don't think

696
00:33:36,599 --> 00:33:39,960
that's Luchenko. So I think that's part of the reason

697
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,839
why people are so stocked down on him, and I

698
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,240
definitely would sell. Hopefully he has a really strong playoffs

699
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,960
for Branford and they win. For Luchenko's stock purposes, Hopefully

700
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,680
Branford does a really well, wins the NHL Championship, maybe

701
00:33:52,759 --> 00:33:55,079
more Cup, and then you can use that to sell

702
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,319
Luchenko for more than he's worth.

703
00:33:57,759 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 3: Connor Gigi's interesting.

704
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,319
Speaker 4: I think that, and they're pro scouts because they don't

705
00:34:02,319 --> 00:34:05,359
have a lot of draft picks and whatever. They do

706
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,519
really well with managing the players that they have and

707
00:34:09,559 --> 00:34:11,599
the guys that they can acquire. And he was a

708
00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:14,800
really strong piece that they got for Sergachev and he

709
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,360
hasn't played too many NHL games to date, but he

710
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,320
has been pretty effective and I think he's learning better

711
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,719
how to use his size and if he can slot

712
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,119
up at the top of the lineup there in Tampa,

713
00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:26,480
obviously that's pretty exciting, which he hasn't done.

714
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 3: A whole lot of.

715
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 4: But I still prefer Connor Geeky, especially because you were

716
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,800
joking about it, but hey, proof of concept with his

717
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,000
older brother. When did Morgan Geeky figure it out? It

718
00:34:36,039 --> 00:34:38,360
was years into his career. If Connor can even to

719
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,320
some extent, then that's great, And I think that I

720
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,840
think Connor was always a better prospect than his older

721
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:48,360
brother at the same stage. So if Connor can harvest

722
00:34:48,599 --> 00:34:50,960
even a little bit of what Morgan has discovered this year,

723
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,519
which I think maybe some offseason little practices or discussions,

724
00:34:54,559 --> 00:34:57,199
maybe we see a new Connor Geeky next year. So yeah,

725
00:34:57,199 --> 00:34:59,239
for all of those reasons, I'm taking Connor Geeky, and

726
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,239
it's not particular literally close, Jesse.

727
00:35:03,039 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 2: Fair enough, let's move on. We're, like you said, we're

728
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,440
in goalie territory now, Victor and I got questions on

729
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:15,079
this first one. Carson Bjarnesson is transitioning from the WHL

730
00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:17,519
to the AHL. Now. He had a very good record

731
00:35:17,639 --> 00:35:21,039
in the WHL. He even made the Canadian World Juniors team.

732
00:35:21,039 --> 00:35:23,360
Didn't get in a game, but he was on that team.

733
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,960
Big honor. Not this year but the previous year. And

734
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,719
now he's transitioning to the AHL. Results have not been great.

735
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,719
So far this year he has an eight to seventy

736
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,199
eight save percentage. But still, he is a twenty year

737
00:35:34,199 --> 00:35:36,519
old goalie, folks, and he was drafted in the second round.

738
00:35:36,599 --> 00:35:38,559
You got to give this time, this guy plenty of

739
00:35:38,599 --> 00:35:41,960
time to simmer. Twenty year old goalies are not supposed

740
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,039
to be good enough to be in the NHL at

741
00:35:45,039 --> 00:35:48,440
that age. And he's going up against one of your buddies,

742
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:53,400
one of your faves, Victor Joel Blomquist of the Pittsburgh Penguins,

743
00:35:53,519 --> 00:35:56,679
and unsurprisingly, blomb Quist wins this one in a blowout

744
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,599
seventy to thirty percent. How do we talk about these, Victor,

745
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,639
And is Barnsen that close to Blombquist. I'm guessing you

746
00:36:03,679 --> 00:36:04,559
like blomb Quist too.

747
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 3: I like Blumbquist.

748
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 4: And yeah, it's so funny, the whole narrative about Jarry

749
00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:14,000
and Pittsburgh and Edmonton, and it's just so obvious, I

750
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,480
think to some of us that kind of knew that

751
00:36:15,559 --> 00:36:17,360
was going to happen, that he's going to get traded

752
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,320
there and not be good. And then you see Stuart Skinner,

753
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,079
who was so maligned, and yeah, he definitely had the

754
00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:24,519
propensity to give up bad goals. But then he's been

755
00:36:24,559 --> 00:36:27,880
great in Pittsburgh fourteen point oh eight goals save a

756
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,360
book of expected for Stuart Skinner, she loves for his money.

757
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,960
Has been a little better than I expected, which may

758
00:36:34,159 --> 00:36:36,039
be a little bit of a problem for Blunkfist, But

759
00:36:36,039 --> 00:36:39,320
I like Blunquist. As you mentioned, he's young playing in

760
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,719
that HL system, which I don't think is a very

761
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,039
conducive or great necessarily environment for him. But he's actually

762
00:36:46,199 --> 00:36:49,400
been pretty good this season. His numbers are a little

763
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,960
bit down, but I still think he's had some positive

764
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:57,440
results in the AHL, so I like to see that. Actually,

765
00:36:57,559 --> 00:36:59,760
he's twenty four, so yeah, he's got he's close to

766
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,440
being NH already, and he has some played some NHL

767
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,280
games which didn't go particularly well. But I think Blunkfist

768
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,079
is at least a one bee in the future, and

769
00:37:08,119 --> 00:37:09,960
I think he's a guy who could challenge for starts,

770
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,320
So I'd love to see what they do there. They

771
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,039
definitely have some options, and then there's of course Sergram Miroshov,

772
00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:17,320
who I think is a starter for years to come,

773
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:22,800
but I do Blumquist is the bottom line. Banniston is

774
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:27,039
interesting because he hasn't gone super well into the AHL.

775
00:37:28,559 --> 00:37:31,360
But here's the thing. They don't really have any good

776
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:35,159
options in the NHL right now, do the Philadelphia Flyers.

777
00:37:35,159 --> 00:37:38,239
So I think Bjarnison will probably get leap frogged by

778
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,320
the next guy that we're going to talk about eventually,

779
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,440
but he's closer to being nhlready.

780
00:37:42,519 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 3: He's in the AHL.

781
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 4: Maybe he gets an opportunity in a year or two,

782
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,559
and I think he could be at least someone who

783
00:37:49,119 --> 00:37:51,559
holds down the fort for a bit and has some

784
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,079
reasonable value. So for that reason, I think you might

785
00:37:55,159 --> 00:37:57,760
want to buy Carson Bjarnison, not because he's going to

786
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,920
be great, but because he is they and he's close

787
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,480
to being NHL ready, and we see a lot of

788
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,280
guys actually transition from the HL to the NHL and

789
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,119
be better, So I think Jiannison could be that guy.

790
00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:10,840
With a little bit more structure. I think Philly Is

791
00:38:11,199 --> 00:38:14,119
looks like they're improving their team, and hopefully we'll have

792
00:38:14,159 --> 00:38:18,559
a little bit more structure and good defensive ability soon

793
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,440
and so that could really help him or whoever's in goal.

794
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,079
So I think it's a soft buy and Bjarnison not

795
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,000
because he's going to be great, but because they don't

796
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,599
really have a lot of great options, and he's the

797
00:38:29,639 --> 00:38:32,159
closest one to being NHL ready, and I think he

798
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:37,199
has at least split starter upside. Bloomquist I definitely would

799
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:38,880
take in this poll though, And I think he's a

800
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,559
better goalie even though he's going to be a little

801
00:38:41,559 --> 00:38:44,159
bit blocked I think for the for years to come

802
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,480
in Pittsburgh.

803
00:38:46,559 --> 00:38:47,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, very good.

804
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,039
Speaker 2: And the other goalie, the goalie you were cheasing just

805
00:38:51,039 --> 00:38:54,079
a moment ago, who's going to be chasing Daniel Vladash

806
00:38:54,079 --> 00:38:55,960
who's got a lock hold on it, Victor, I just

807
00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:00,239
say so. But Igorza Vragen another Russian goalie, and you

808
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,360
have buy next to his name for the second straight year.

809
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,000
He's minding the net for a decent Scott Saint Pete franchise.

810
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,440
A nine to twelve save percentage is pretty reasonable over

811
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,880
in the KHL, especially for a twenty year old. Maybe

812
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,679
Philly fans and I are scarred by Ivon Fettov and

813
00:39:16,679 --> 00:39:20,280
Alexey Kolosov coming over. In the last couple of years,

814
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,480
these Russian import goalies have not worked out necessarily particularly

815
00:39:24,519 --> 00:39:30,480
well for the Flyers, but Canada Russian Belarussan KHL goalies

816
00:39:30,519 --> 00:39:34,039
survived this transition. And then we put him up against

817
00:39:34,199 --> 00:39:39,039
Levy Marilinen of the Ottawa Senators, and that is going

818
00:39:39,119 --> 00:39:42,079
to be quite a matchup. Mari Linen has actually gotten

819
00:39:42,119 --> 00:39:45,000
some pro games already, not really blown up in a

820
00:39:45,039 --> 00:39:48,400
positive way, but he has at least gotten that far

821
00:39:48,519 --> 00:39:50,719
and made it into North America and done those things

822
00:39:51,039 --> 00:39:55,360
again as more hype, the people like it more seventy

823
00:39:55,559 --> 00:40:00,519
to thirty percent worth of more in the NHL ranking poll. So, Victor,

824
00:40:00,519 --> 00:40:01,639
what do you say about these two?

825
00:40:02,039 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, these are interesting because obviously Zovdrogen is younger and

826
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,760
hasn't really proved himself. He's looked great for Scott Saint Pete.

827
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,480
We've seen a lot of goalies look good in limited

828
00:40:11,519 --> 00:40:14,239
action for Scott Saint Petersburg and then when they get

829
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,480
a full time roller, when they come over, they collapse.

830
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,400
And so that is possible. And I don't mean to

831
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,960
give Philly fans PTSD or anything, but this guy seems different.

832
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,320
He does seem like he's really good between the ears.

833
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,159
He's not the biggest guy, he doesn't overrely on his frame.

834
00:40:31,599 --> 00:40:34,760
He's got a good combination of positioning and athleticism, and

835
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,320
he has been great at pretty much of a level

836
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,440
he's been at and so I definitely think he's a

837
00:40:39,519 --> 00:40:41,559
star starter for years to come when and if he

838
00:40:41,639 --> 00:40:44,719
comes over. So I definitely would want a piece of Zevdrogen.

839
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,840
I think he will be the answer when he comes over.

840
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,760
So I definitely like him. Marilyna is interesting because he's

841
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,000
one of these that I would also soft buy. I

842
00:40:54,039 --> 00:40:58,000
think he had a disaster season in the NHL this

843
00:40:58,119 --> 00:41:00,000
year after last year when he was good in the end,

844
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,519
they maybe over relied on him when the opportunity came

845
00:41:03,559 --> 00:41:05,559
and he didn't. He did not respond well. He didn't

846
00:41:05,559 --> 00:41:08,480
handle it well, that's clear, But I don't think that

847
00:41:08,559 --> 00:41:10,880
means that he's a total bus and he is never

848
00:41:11,039 --> 00:41:13,880
going to be a good goalie again. Sometimes that happens

849
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,599
in life. You fall down and it's how you pick

850
00:41:15,639 --> 00:41:18,079
yourself back up. And he's been pretty good in the

851
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,760
AHL since then, and I still think that Marilna in

852
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,480
the right situation when he win and if he comes

853
00:41:25,519 --> 00:41:27,679
back and maybe he needs to change an organization. I

854
00:41:27,679 --> 00:41:29,719
don't know, but I think that he still could be

855
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,239
a reasonable goalie, and what happened this year I don't

856
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:37,199
think will completely define who he is or how his

857
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,719
NHL career goes. And so if you're looking to soft

858
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,880
buy on someone who could be decent, it may be

859
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,199
he may be a guy. I actually gave this advice

860
00:41:45,199 --> 00:41:47,960
to cop people and I've taken it myself. Yes, he

861
00:41:48,039 --> 00:41:50,079
was horrible this year. You could probably get him for

862
00:41:50,079 --> 00:41:52,079
free or nothing, and this is the time of year

863
00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:54,159
where he may just grab Marilina and see what happens.

864
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,920
He could turn into a competent one bee or backup

865
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,119
and give you some value in deep enough leagues. I'm

866
00:41:59,159 --> 00:42:01,159
not saying he's going to be the starter and be great,

867
00:42:01,199 --> 00:42:04,239
because that's clearly ol Mark. I think he's better than

868
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,239
what he showed this year, and he had a longer

869
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,880
track record of being good before he was terrible this year,

870
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,800
so I think you got to rely on that. But

871
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,360
in terms of Zebragen, yeah, I think he's going to

872
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:14,840
be great. I think he's gonna be awesome, and he's

873
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,559
going to be the next wave of great Russian imports

874
00:42:17,559 --> 00:42:18,760
that you're going to want a piece of.

875
00:42:19,199 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 2: All right, we do love them when they work out.

876
00:42:23,159 --> 00:42:26,239
Let's see, the last Philadelphia Flyer is probably the most

877
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,199
prominent in the system, and that is Porter Marton. He

878
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,639
is a bye. He is the ground jewel of this

879
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,679
Flyer system. Had an excellent year at Michigan State University,

880
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,400
led the team with forty seven points in thirty three games,

881
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:43,000
and has Michigan State the third seed in the NCAA

882
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,760
tournament at press time. And of course the bad news

883
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,159
is we're recording this before the tournament games, so hopefully

884
00:42:50,199 --> 00:42:52,559
he's not like eliminated or something by the time people listen.

885
00:42:52,599 --> 00:42:55,440
There's just no way to know. The playmaking power forward

886
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,880
Marton shouldn't be too far from joining the pro ranks.

887
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,760
I don't know if it's been made of official, whether

888
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,639
he would come out to the Flyers for the rest

889
00:43:03,639 --> 00:43:06,880
of the season, if after Michigan State's turney run, whatever

890
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:11,719
it is, but certainly he has absolutely done everything to

891
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,800
prove that he was worth that high of a pick

892
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,920
in the draft and in this NHL ranking. Police up

893
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,360
against Michael Hage, who's no slouch himself, who certainly has

894
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:26,480
been getting love himself. But Martone wins mightily in this matchup,

895
00:43:26,519 --> 00:43:29,639
sixty five point five to thirty four point five. I'm

896
00:43:29,639 --> 00:43:33,000
not surprised by that, but it doesn't surprise me. He's

897
00:43:33,039 --> 00:43:36,440
getting more votes. But is this an accurate representation of

898
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,400
the divide and talent here Victor.

899
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,039
Speaker 4: No, Actually, I don't think so. I think this is

900
00:43:41,079 --> 00:43:45,679
actually such a great juxtaposition from Mason. I think both

901
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,000
of these guys are guys that you want. One's a winger,

902
00:43:48,079 --> 00:43:50,800
one's a center. So to the NHL teams, he's going

903
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,199
to be very different. There's a lot of hope that

904
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:58,400
Michael Hage is going to be the two C answer

905
00:43:58,519 --> 00:44:00,599
in Montreal for years and years to come. And I

906
00:44:00,599 --> 00:44:03,280
think he's made a strong case this year that is

907
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,440
going to be his manifestation and I think if he

908
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,519
can do that's amazing. We'll have to wait and see.

909
00:44:09,679 --> 00:44:12,679
He has had a fantastic season.

910
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:13,559
Speaker 3: So has Marton.

911
00:44:13,679 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 4: But I think Marton reaffirmed what a lot of people think,

912
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,440
and I think Hage really took a huge step forward

913
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:23,400
this year and open some eyes into what he can be.

914
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,119
I actually have these two neck and neck in my

915
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,599
ranks seven point seven to seven for Martone and seven

916
00:44:29,599 --> 00:44:31,880
point seventy five for Hage. So that tells you a

917
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,400
little bit of how close they are. So I don't

918
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,199
think it should be sixty five to thirty five. I

919
00:44:36,199 --> 00:44:40,000
think they're much closer than that. But in the end

920
00:44:40,039 --> 00:44:42,239
it might depend on I know a lot of us

921
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:46,360
for fantasy often have more centers, and so wing eligibility

922
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,960
might be a benefit to Marton. But I'll also mention

923
00:44:49,039 --> 00:44:50,440
that there are a lot of people who think that

924
00:44:50,559 --> 00:44:52,239
Hage is not going to be a center and he

925
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,199
will be a winger. Of course, the Canadians want him

926
00:44:55,199 --> 00:44:56,760
to be a center, but he might end up being

927
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,119
a winger, and so then you have two of the same.

928
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,679
But ultimately I think you want both these guys. The

929
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,679
hockey prospecting between the two, Martone has maintained a fifty

930
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,840
nine percent chance of being a star. Hage has also

931
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,119
maintained at twenty percent. I think there's more offensive upside

932
00:45:11,159 --> 00:45:13,599
for Martone, which is probably why I would lead him.

933
00:45:13,599 --> 00:45:16,199
He's also a winger eligible, and I think that there's

934
00:45:16,199 --> 00:45:18,480
more space at the top of the lineup for Marton

935
00:45:18,639 --> 00:45:21,239
in Philly. I don't think he's getting traded or any

936
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,039
of that's changing, so he's for sure going to be

937
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,760
a top line option in Philly, whereas Hage is most

938
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,800
likely in middlesex option and if he slides over to

939
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,199
the wing, maybe he gets on that top power play

940
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,920
in Montreal, but it's likely based on the personnel that

941
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,480
they have there. So all that leads me to lean Martone.

942
00:45:39,559 --> 00:45:41,760
But really I want both of these guys, and if

943
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,000
I'm running an ANHL team, I probably would prefer Hage actually

944
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based on what I've seen this year. But that's real

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life versus fantasy, and we're dealing in fantasy, Jesse.

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Speaker 2: We're dealing in fantasy, Victor. That is a summary of

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everything that we have to say about this prospect systems

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in these episodisodes. Anything else to tell the people about,

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any teases to make before we get out of here today.

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Speaker 4: We are getting close to the last few episodes of

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the season of the regular season before we start our

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team previews, So we're going to do a couple more

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of these kinds of things, and actually we have a

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couple more episodes planned with Ryan because you've got some

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things going on, Jesse.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got some things cooking. We'll get that out

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to people here shortly. But yeah, there's a lot going

958
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on there always is for Victor and I. But right

959
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back on the other side of this freak. This show

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is brought to you by fantracks dot com. You can

961
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move leagues over there, start new leagues. My baseball season

962
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is beginning. There are all kinds of cool things if

963
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you do the premium product, like you can do it

964
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for free, you can also do the premium product, that is,

965
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it costs a little bit of money from remember your league,

966
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but you can do cool things. One of the things

967
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that I found just starting out for baseball now is

968
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you could customize it for only certain injuries allowed to

969
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go on your IL. Or you could say, you know,

970
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if somebody has an arm injury, they can always go

971
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in the IL, but if they have you know, a

972
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knee injury or something, or you know, just whatever uncharacterized injury,

973
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they can't. I mean, it's there's all kinds of crazy,

974
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detailed things that you never thought you'd be able to

975
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do in one of these leagues that you can do

976
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in fan tracks. So fantracks HQ also provide some fantasy content.

977
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There's articles previewing fantasy hockey and the other Sports. FHL's

978
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team is Legion and strong. Tim Ryan, Simo, and Craftzer

979
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are making the tidy leagues happen. We're already in the

980
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mode of figuring out who's coming back next year because

981
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this is a tiered dynasty. This is year tier dynasty

982
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with promotion and demotion Patrons get in. Expect a lot

983
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,800
more on that in months to come. If you're a

984
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,599
new listener. Tony and Patrick are a Lee Scouts, We've

985
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got a Scouts tout coming up with the fruits of

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their labors and the Great Fantasy Hockey Life Scout Team.

987
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Brandon helps with the website, prospect ranks and visualizations. A

988
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lot of cool things, a lot of good visualizations, victors

989
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ranks incorporated into those. For some of it is again

990
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:22,280
is Patreon content, but it is extremely cool for those

991
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,119
who've seen it. If you'd like to help the show

992
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:30,239
do more neat things, find Victor Discord email social media.

993
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,639
He'd love to hear from you. He'd love to plug

994
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,719
you in. We'd love to plug in and get you

995
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to be part of the effort. We're also brought to

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a Daber Hockey and Daber Prospects Victors and editor. He

997
00:48:40,199 --> 00:48:42,960
writes the column the Journey. Of course, he writes, some mckeans,

998
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,039
you heard some of the fruits of that. On this show,

999
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I do a solo show called Dynasty Sports Life. I

1000
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talk about a lot of different dynasty sports. This week

1001
00:48:51,039 --> 00:48:54,159
is going to be the third of three episodes about

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the upcoming NFL Draft in April that covers all the

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prospects you might want to take in your rookie drafts.

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Follow us on social media fan Hockey Life, or Victor

1005
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,679
in you Know twelve on x or even better on

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00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:11,159
Blue Sky, Jesse Severe or the One Victor. You can

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00:49:11,519 --> 00:49:14,519
rate and review the Apple Pod, Spotify, wherever else you

1008
00:49:14,559 --> 00:49:16,800
get podcasts, you can probably find us. If you can't,

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let me know, I'd be curious to know that. And

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until next time. In addition to giving me the five stars,

1011
00:49:23,119 --> 00:49:26,039
given victory the five stars, cheering us up, all we

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want in return is for you to live that fantasy

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hockey life

