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<v Speaker 1>But it has been a busy news cycle. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll saw Lake our next guest. Man, I know he's

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<v Speaker 1>missed this, and I know he's so excited to be

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<v Speaker 1>doing this. It is Kurt Schmidt, technical director for the

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<v Speaker 1>club on a Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 2>Kurt, how bad did you miss me?

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<v Speaker 1>Man?

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<v Speaker 2>Let's let's be honest here.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just psyched to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>You liar, you liar? How you been?

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<v Speaker 3>Man?

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<v Speaker 2>Things all right with you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I'm just waiting for the off season

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<v Speaker 3>to start so i can relax.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, look, I don't really know where to start, but

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to get to as much of this as

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<v Speaker 1>we can because I'm not privy to the conversations behind

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<v Speaker 1>closed doors. And I know a lot of RSL fans

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<v Speaker 1>are very curious to hear from you and your main

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<v Speaker 1>motivation for moving on from Chicho Orongo, the Golden Boot

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<v Speaker 1>winner for the club and at one point one of

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<v Speaker 1>the favorites for League MVP, and you know, he just

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<v Speaker 1>had such a bright start and then we all know

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<v Speaker 1>it came crashing down with the suspension. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what changed, Kurt, but something certainly did. So walk

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<v Speaker 1>us through this. What what's it like? The communications structure,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, speaking to ownership and Tony and everybody else

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<v Speaker 1>in the front office, Pablo and then Jason bringing everybody

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<v Speaker 1>together to decide to move on from a player that

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<v Speaker 1>really went He's right, he is just very very good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I mean, look, it's it's not an easy decision

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<v Speaker 3>when when when you're talking about whether or not to

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<v Speaker 3>move on from from a quality player, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's something that that we had to face a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of times, maybe last year. But you know, on for

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<v Speaker 3>all the successes that happened last year that we achieved

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<v Speaker 3>last year, and we did achieve some some some goals

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<v Speaker 3>and and some heights in last season, we still fell

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<v Speaker 3>short of our ultimate goal, right, which is winning a trophy,

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<v Speaker 3>holding a trophy at the end of a competition. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know, some of that was was how things went

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<v Speaker 3>in the in the back half of the season, second

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<v Speaker 3>half of the season, you know. And and as it

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<v Speaker 3>relates to Chiacho, obviously, you know, we don't need to

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<v Speaker 3>rehash it, but everybody knows kind of how that went

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<v Speaker 3>for him and with us, and you know, we had

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<v Speaker 3>certain guys step up in a time when he maybe

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't producing as much as he had in earlier in

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<v Speaker 3>the year, but anyway, it just you know, it got

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<v Speaker 3>to the point where it was obviously very difficult and

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<v Speaker 3>something something changed, and you know, we had a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of hard conversations internally about it amongst staff, with Chicho

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<v Speaker 3>and obviously his representation, and you know, at a certain point,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Chicho came to me and asked that we

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<v Speaker 3>help him find a solution for for him and his family,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, to get a fresh start, and and that's

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I think we well, that's what we

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<v Speaker 3>tried to do. And what I think we did was

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<v Speaker 3>found a solution that you know, obviously is the best

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<v Speaker 3>for all parties.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm quite prepared for a very short answer to

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<v Speaker 1>this question, but you also understand I need to ask it.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you shed any lights on the suspension, why it happened,

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<v Speaker 1>and the effect that it had on him and also

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<v Speaker 1>the team.

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<v Speaker 3>I can look obviously the you know, the club and

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<v Speaker 3>and you know did everything that they could have done

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<v Speaker 3>and what was were required to do and needed to

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<v Speaker 3>do in that situation. And you know, we the league,

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<v Speaker 3>the league went through their process and we accepted their

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<v Speaker 3>decision and we went you know, and that's what we

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<v Speaker 3>dealt with and in terms of how any of that

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<v Speaker 3>affected chi Cho. You know, obviously I don't know what's

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<v Speaker 3>none of us can know what's in his head, what's

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<v Speaker 3>in his mind, but certainly we we saw what was

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<v Speaker 3>on the field.

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<v Speaker 1>How much of this the decision Kurt had to do

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<v Speaker 1>with chi Cho and his family not wanting to live here,

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<v Speaker 1>and how much of the decision had to do with

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<v Speaker 1>the club being ready to move on with a player

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<v Speaker 1>that clearly was not right after the suspension went down.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I think some of that's the question

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<v Speaker 3>for chi Cho, but I just would reiterate that I

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<v Speaker 3>think with with all the water that had flowed, you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>float under that bridge, I think we just found the

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<v Speaker 3>the solution that was the best for all parties.

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<v Speaker 1>Got asked the question, you know, and I am, admittedly, still,

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<v Speaker 1>after covering this game for twenty plus years, a neophyte,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're an expert. And I'll see to you if

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<v Speaker 1>you compare what you received in exchange for Chico to

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<v Speaker 1>what Seattle sent out for Haesus fre for AA. Excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>the package is not close. And look, I understand that

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<v Speaker 1>you had to cut the tie. I understand you had

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<v Speaker 1>to make the move, But one point four mil in

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<v Speaker 1>allocation money and an international roster spot Kirk does not

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<v Speaker 1>seem like a fair haul.

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<v Speaker 3>Your thoughts, sure, I mean, I look, obviously it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>really difficult to compare players like that and to set

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<v Speaker 3>to set the market based on one or two or

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<v Speaker 3>such a limited number of transactions that you're talking about

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<v Speaker 3>at that end of end of the market. Obviously there

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<v Speaker 3>were other opportunities. There were other clubs, other situations, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>outside the league, in the league, like, there were different opportunities,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know this, you know, this ended up being

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<v Speaker 3>the right thing from from all facets, from uh the

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<v Speaker 3>standpoint obviously the finances from you know, obviously it needs

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<v Speaker 3>to be agreeable to cheat Sho and his family who

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<v Speaker 3>are going to move there. And and also from a

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<v Speaker 3>timing standpoint where you know, this was something that we

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<v Speaker 3>knew was happening, and you know, preseason is here, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like we want to we want to have

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<v Speaker 3>our group together and move forward. So just when you

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<v Speaker 3>factor in all the implications of the decision, this was

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<v Speaker 3>this was the best case.

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<v Speaker 1>So Sally and Andres was proof of concept. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think anybody would debate that, but it's not just andres.

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<v Speaker 2>It's now cheat Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>Now let's move over to Matt Crooks, and I'll just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of ask you the same question. Is this a

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<v Speaker 1>scenario where Matt and his family just wanted to leave

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<v Speaker 1>the market? Were you not satisfied with what you received

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<v Speaker 1>for his production? I was also taken back that Crooks

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<v Speaker 1>was sent on his way. Can you shed a little

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<v Speaker 1>light on on that decision?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, look where we try to put the

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<v Speaker 3>players first at the club, and you know, again that

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<v Speaker 3>means like we want players that want to be here

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<v Speaker 3>and that are happy here, and we want to support them,

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<v Speaker 3>and then we feel that that's the way to get

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<v Speaker 3>the most out of them on the field. I think

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<v Speaker 3>that with Matt and his family, you know, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 3>kind of hit the nail on the head, like this

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<v Speaker 3>family situation wasn't ideal, and he was. They spent a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of time apart last year, and for him, the biggest,

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<v Speaker 3>the big thought process the decision was, you know, could

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<v Speaker 3>he could he do that again? Were they going to come?

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<v Speaker 3>Was it better to go back? And again there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of tough conversations there as well, and and ultimately

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<v Speaker 3>the right opportunity came up for him to go back,

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<v Speaker 3>and it worked for us as well. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>from that standpoint, it was a little bit of an

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<v Speaker 3>unwinding of kind of what we did a year ago

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<v Speaker 3>when we brought him in. You know, Matt's Matt's a

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<v Speaker 3>great guy. Matt. You know, I really like Matt as

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<v Speaker 3>a as a person and as a player. I thought,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you hit you talked about production. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think he lit up the production side of things. He

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<v Speaker 3>certainly helped us with his movement and that type of thing,

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<v Speaker 3>but he also you know, we also we needed some

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<v Speaker 3>production from that position as well. And that's part of

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<v Speaker 3>the genesis of us bringing Diogo here as well, is

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<v Speaker 3>because we felt he was someone that was going to

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<v Speaker 3>be more Goldings, was going to produce more from a

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<v Speaker 3>similar position. And you know, so from that standpoint, we thought,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Jyogo coming in, you know, allows us to

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<v Speaker 3>grant Matt and his family their wish essentially and get

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<v Speaker 3>them back together.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, entirely fair about the numbers and the production. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>don't take this the wrong way, but every time I

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<v Speaker 1>heard somebody talk about how far he ran, I'm like, cool,

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, like let's get some assistants, some goals.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not saying you to work hard, but it.

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<v Speaker 3>Wasn't just how far, but it was, you know, just

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<v Speaker 3>to He ran very you know and maybe the satica

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<v Speaker 3>to sound equally maybe boring to you, but he did

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<v Speaker 3>run very intelligently in terms of, you know, the timing

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<v Speaker 3>and direction of his runs, the pace and how it

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<v Speaker 3>created space for guys like Andreasin, Chico and Luna at times,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know how he filled He's a very intelligent player,

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<v Speaker 3>how he filled the gaps that others laughed in order

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<v Speaker 3>to continue and maintain our structure in certain times when

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<v Speaker 3>we were when others were a little more fluid and

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<v Speaker 3>kind of doing whatever they wanted. He was a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit of a blue guy that kind of made sure

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<v Speaker 3>that our game model was still being implemented and that

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<v Speaker 3>the team still had the right structure.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I totally get it. You're not wrong, but run

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<v Speaker 1>intelligently and get your head on a ball. Let's get

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of intelligent goals and assists. That's all I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're not wrong, Kurt, You're not wrong. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're yeah, and you and I talked about what I

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<v Speaker 1>proceed to be a very professional approach to the season

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<v Speaker 1>from Anderson Julio last year, who I just thought was

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<v Speaker 1>called upon oftentimes to step in in tough scenarios, and

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he did a good job. Now this wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a hey, you're going to move on without getting some

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<v Speaker 1>things in return, but same question take us through the

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<v Speaker 1>mindset of moving on from Anderson Julio.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it was a great guy, worked hard, he

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<v Speaker 3>learned a lot and developed, you know, even though he

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<v Speaker 3>didn't come here as a twenty year old. He came

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<v Speaker 3>here a few years after that, but he he up

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<v Speaker 3>a lot in his time in ourselves had a great

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<v Speaker 3>year last year. And you know, when you've got a

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<v Speaker 3>player around that age, as they're heading towards their thirties

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<v Speaker 3>and they're having a career year, you know, you have

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<v Speaker 3>to think about our you know, can you make a

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<v Speaker 3>move here at at or near the kind of top

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<v Speaker 3>of his market, top of his value, and if we

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<v Speaker 3>get enough in exchange, is it worth it? And so

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<v Speaker 3>we thought we thought that's kind of the situation. And

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<v Speaker 3>we were able to get obviously some money, which is important,

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<v Speaker 3>but also a piece that solves a bit of death

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<v Speaker 3>and competition for us on the back line and Sam

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<v Speaker 3>Junkwa who can push guys in two different spots and

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<v Speaker 3>give us solid, solid depth and two positions along the

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<v Speaker 3>back line. So it was kind of a win win

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<v Speaker 3>all around.

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<v Speaker 1>I apologize for another uncomfortable question, Kurt, but I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>throw it at you anyway. I mean, look, the numbers

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<v Speaker 1>are the numbers, and you set a club record for points,

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<v Speaker 1>you set a club record for goals scored, as you

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<v Speaker 2>I want you guys to get trophies. I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>But with all of the moves that have been made

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<v Speaker 1>what does that say about the group? What does that

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<v Speaker 3>I think it would send the message of trust to

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<v Speaker 3>to rely upon honestly, Like you know, we brought in

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<v Speaker 3>But again, when you talk about guys like Dominic marshaok

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<v Speaker 3>those types of things like those Nelson Placia, like those.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we're putting our trust from those guys, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think they should feel that and that should fill

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well said, And I do want to get into

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<v Speaker 1>and look, I honestly, I don't know if you can

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<v Speaker 1>of the reports that are out there, and I'm certainly

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<v Speaker 1>not an expert with Brazilian goalkeepers. Raphael Cabral, I'm thirty

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<v Speaker 1>four years old, know nothing about him, but acording the reports,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys have signed this Brazilian keeper, Kurt.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you shed some light on this transaction.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't deal with reports.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not official yet.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, we've signed a veteran, yeah, veteran international goalkeeper that

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<v Speaker 1>Can you do discuss us sending Gavin Beavers on a

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<v Speaker 2>Are you able to discuss that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, look, Gav's on his way out. It's not alone.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's not official yet either, but we're certainly working

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<v Speaker 3>us last year. And you know, when we talk about

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<v Speaker 3>where like obviously where he's going is kind of within

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<v Speaker 3>want to call it. And it was actually a really

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<v Speaker 3>productive process to just collaborate across our ownership group and

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<v Speaker 3>thing for ourselves, What is the best thing for Brumby,

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<v Speaker 3>What is the best thing for Gavin Beavers and and

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<v Speaker 3>make the right decision for all parties. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think for him it's an exciting step in his career.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. For us obviously, you know, it makes my

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<v Speaker 3>homegrown players or players on a subman a roster who

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<v Speaker 3>little bit. But but it you know, it makes sense

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<v Speaker 3>for all parties to let him go. And yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 3>why you saw, you know, mason statue art come in

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<v Speaker 3>today from from Orlando.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you said the name because that's where I

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<v Speaker 1>was going next. Okay, Mason's statue, if.

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<v Speaker 3>I got it right, to be fair, I probably need

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<v Speaker 3>to go check on that, but I tried.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'll trust you as opposed to the guest that

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<v Speaker 1>was about to lob out.

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<v Speaker 2>But that one is official.

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<v Speaker 1>It is on the website, as is Kobe Henry correct

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<v Speaker 1>center back.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. Mason was is someone

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<v Speaker 3>you know. Again, I think the other thing we didn't

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<v Speaker 3>really touch on is is Zach is you know Zach's

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<v Speaker 3>looking like he's going to miss some significant time early

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<v Speaker 3>in the season, so obviously we've we've brought in an

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<v Speaker 3>that we think will at competition and good depth is

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<v Speaker 3>in the in the goalkeeper. And then you know we've

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<v Speaker 3>revamped it otherwise completely with with the college kids coming

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Urt, there's a report and I know you

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<v Speaker 1>can't discuss reports, but like you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, this is the deal. I got to ask you.

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<v Speaker 1>You can tell me to kick Rocks and he's an

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<v Speaker 2>Here we go. Okay, it's a new year. My goal

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<v Speaker 2>is to just say yes and try things.

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<v Speaker 1>Ariath Peel, I don't know, no idea, but it's out

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<v Speaker 2>What is it close?

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like that was close. Huld. If I had

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<v Speaker 3>to guess his name, I would say maybe the Arif Pole. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe like that. Yeah, I mean, look, obviously we brought

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<v Speaker 3>in Mocklmbrook last year. Australia is the market that we're

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<v Speaker 3>looking at more and more. You know, we like to

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<v Speaker 3>bring in talented young players. So signing like that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>would would make a lot of sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, well that's as close as we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get to a curt admission. What okay, where are the

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<v Speaker 1>goals coming from? We've already TOPPD And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>as you reference, and you brought in a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>players during the summer window that I think people are

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<v Speaker 1>excited about once we see them with a training you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a full training camp under Pablo.

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<v Speaker 2>I think everybody loves the Marxian kid.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you got a lot of bright options, and

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<v Speaker 1>lest we forget, maybe your most skilled player, Diego Luna

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<v Speaker 1>is still on the roster, so all is not lost,

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<v Speaker 1>but you lost a lot of goals.

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<v Speaker 2>Where are those goals coming from?

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<v Speaker 3>Kurt? I mean, I think you started it already. Look,

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<v Speaker 3>I think we came in. You know, if you go

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<v Speaker 3>back in time a year ago and going in twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty four season, you know, it seems like a no

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<v Speaker 3>brainer now, But us relying on Luna and Andreas to

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<v Speaker 3>production like that wasn't a no brainer move at that

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<v Speaker 3>time either. And you know, we thought we had two

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<v Speaker 3>talented young players that we're going to take a step up,

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<v Speaker 3>and they did, and credit to them, and so I

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<v Speaker 3>think we're looking at something similar this year where you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think, again Luna's still a young player that is,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I think can take even another step in

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<v Speaker 3>his development and grow and in his production. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>but it started preseason well and we we have high

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<v Speaker 3>hopes for him coming in. And as I said before,

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's someone who's from that position who's more

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<v Speaker 3>goals too, but I think he's just going to serve

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<v Speaker 3>up some of the easiest goals ever for for whoever

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<v Speaker 3>three four other guys that are going to play with

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<v Speaker 3>him in the attack. And so I think he can

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<v Speaker 3>he can definitely score himself and get some assists and

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<v Speaker 3>then look what you know at the ninth you know, honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think, you know, I pabably said it

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<v Speaker 3>earlier today, we're not going into the season, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>playing a man down, like we're going to have a

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<v Speaker 3>guy playing center forward that's going to do the things

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<v Speaker 3>that we need in our game model, and our game

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<v Speaker 3>models geared to creating chances for guys in our attack

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, we're confident that the committee of attackers

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and before I said you loose, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>think we just forget.

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<v Speaker 1>Like your central midfield is pretty stacked because you get

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<v Speaker 1>Pablo Luiz back, and of course a Mecca has he's

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<v Speaker 2>And then there there's.

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<v Speaker 1>Also brian A Hayda, Right, so you have that kind

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<v Speaker 1>mid area, forgive my my language, how do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to play out? And how's Pablo looking now

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<v Speaker 1>that he's back?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, And I mean we we forgot about Nelson

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I look at Pablo has been out, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he's now for eighteen months. And so for us with Pablo,

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<v Speaker 3>that a he stays healthy and also he like gets

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<v Speaker 3>his sea legs under him. Right. It's not something where

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<v Speaker 3>you bean out more or less for that long. You

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<v Speaker 3>just pop right in and it's like nothing ever happened.

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<v Speaker 3>It's something you gotta you gotta get into. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think Pablo's obviously a very talented player that can

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<v Speaker 3>add a lot to us, especially in possession. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to bring him along the right way so

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<v Speaker 3>we can be a top contribute for us. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>not a situation where we have to rush him in because,

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<v Speaker 3>as you said, we've got a met we've got to

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<v Speaker 3>hate it. We've got Nelson, you know. So we have

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<v Speaker 3>a good rotation of players, even with the number of

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<v Speaker 1>You you sleep in a night, you're hydrating, you're getting food,

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<v Speaker 1>Like what, dude, You've been insanely busy.

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<v Speaker 3>One for I'm usually one for three or two for

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<v Speaker 3>three on those three things most days. All right, man,

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<v Speaker 3>it's usually the one I missed it.

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<v Speaker 2>Fortunately, I'm with you there.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, look, you're a smart guy, so we'll trust you

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll hope that things pan out. Not easy decisions, Kurt,

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for the time, man, Have.

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<v Speaker 2>A good week.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, thanks man, appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Kurt Smid he's the technical director for Rayal saw Lake

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<v Speaker 1>means he is the main decision maker, the sporting director

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<v Speaker 1>essentially the general manager.

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<v Speaker 2>Soccer teams have different terms
