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<v Speaker 2>All right, guys, you have found that it is the

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<v Speaker 2>least is being recorded on Wednesday, September the twenty fourth,

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<v Speaker 2>it was so. September the twenty first was when we

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<v Speaker 2>recorded the bulk of this interview. If you've not already

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<v Speaker 2>watched the latest episode of Chris McDaniel's America, then you

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<v Speaker 2>may have missed that we changed things up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>I have been trying to schedule time in Chris's busy

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<v Speaker 2>schedule to have him back on the right Side and

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<v Speaker 2>do an interview. Well, we decided we would do that

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<v Speaker 2>interview on Chris McDaniels America and then we would release

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<v Speaker 2>it again in audio only format on the Right Side

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<v Speaker 2>as this week's episode. So thank you to Chris for

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<v Speaker 2>agreeing to the interview. We sit down and we have

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<v Speaker 2>a discussion. Of course, what you'll hear at the start,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll hear Chris bring us in, and you'll hear Chris

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<v Speaker 2>do the traditional opening to Chris McDaniels America, and everything

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<v Speaker 2>that follows this quick little introduction here will sound more

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<v Speaker 2>like a traditional Chris McDaniels America episode. But I am

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<v Speaker 2>excited to finally get this interview and sit down with him.

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<v Speaker 2>I talked to him about the Charlie Kirk assassination. I

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<v Speaker 2>talk with him about his future and a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>other stuff in between. So folks get ready enjoy as

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<v Speaker 2>I have an interview here with Chris McDaniel.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome to another episode of Chris mcdanel's America here on

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<v Speaker 4>the Midnight Ride Network. You're home of the anti establishment

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<v Speaker 4>movement in this country. With me as always, Jack Fair

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<v Speaker 4>child's Jack. How do you do?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm dooing all right, Chris, how are you?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm good. I missed last week's episode. Work had me,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, completely covered, but I'm happy to be back.

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<v Speaker 4>The shame of it is, I've missed so many good

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<v Speaker 4>and tragic events that we could have discussed, and so

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<v Speaker 4>today I think we'll handle some of that with an

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<v Speaker 4>over and arching theme to this video, this over arching

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<v Speaker 4>theme to this show. It's been recognized, I think by

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<v Speaker 4>most rational humans that America appears to be unraveling. If

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<v Speaker 4>not unraveling, certainly we are at eyes with one another,

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<v Speaker 4>neighbor against neighbor, division, religion, sociology, philosophy, everything seems to

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<v Speaker 4>moment in this country's history. Certainly it seems, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you always read about this build up to eighteen sixty

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<v Speaker 4>one and how the country was so divided, and it

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<v Speaker 4>was divided, and it caused a significant war in eighteen

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<v Speaker 4>sixty one. But you know, even that division, we had

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<v Speaker 4>more in common than divided us. You can't see that

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<v Speaker 4>some civil war or some breakout of violence, and no

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<v Speaker 4>one wants to see that anyway. I'm just suggesting that

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<v Speaker 4>if there was ever a moment around history that we

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<v Speaker 4>need to really be introspective about our direction and where

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<v Speaker 4>we are as a people. This is probably yet violence

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<v Speaker 4>of people and no real cohesion. Seems we don't have

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<v Speaker 4>a lot in common with our friends or enemies, as

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<v Speaker 4>political aisle. I hate to use that word so flippantly,

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<v Speaker 4>but it just feels like we're at that point. And

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<v Speaker 4>so the question today is BEGT is liberty the problem

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<v Speaker 4>or is it the solution? As we discussed this today,

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<v Speaker 4>we're going to invert things, change things up just a

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<v Speaker 4>bit because since I missed last week, Jack was thinking

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<v Speaker 4>and he would interview me on these subjects. So instead

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<v Speaker 4>of me reading the news and giving an opinion on

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<v Speaker 4>the news, Jack's gonna ask me questions about the news,

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<v Speaker 4>and we're going to comment on it and talk about

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<v Speaker 4>it as rationally as we can. What you'll get today

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<v Speaker 4>from me is an opinion, not so much a news

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<v Speaker 4>oriented hit piece, but the way I see patterns, the

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<v Speaker 4>way I see the world, the way I see this

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<v Speaker 4>country falling to pieces, and what can be done to

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<v Speaker 4>save it, because I do believe there are ways we

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<v Speaker 4>can save it. It may be unconventional to what you're

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<v Speaker 4>accustomed to, it may change the way we all have

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<v Speaker 4>been thinking about government in our lives, but I do

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<v Speaker 4>believe there's a way to save it. So Jack, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>gonna turn it over to you. Ask the questions as

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<v Speaker 4>you see fit, and remember as we come back toward

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<v Speaker 4>the end of the show today, the answer is can

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<v Speaker 4>we save it? That's the question toward the end of

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<v Speaker 4>the show. Okay, what do you have?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Chris, you know, first off, thanks for this. This

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<v Speaker 2>is something you and I've talked about for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>Doing this will probably be the same. We'll probably use

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<v Speaker 2>this episode for the Right Side later this week as well,

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<v Speaker 2>and I appreciate you your openness to being an interview,

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<v Speaker 2>especially on your own show. So first, you know, again,

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<v Speaker 2>you were out last week when the big news Charlie

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<v Speaker 2>Kirk's assassination dropped. Tell me what you were thinking when

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<v Speaker 2>you heard the news, Where were you when you heard

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<v Speaker 2>the news, and just just kind of walk us through

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<v Speaker 2>that moment when you've heard about a political assassination on.

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<v Speaker 4>An airplane flying across the country, I would like to

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<v Speaker 4>say that I found it shocking, and it was shocking

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<v Speaker 4>in its orientation, but it wasn't surprising. You know, I've

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<v Speaker 4>been in politics now for a long time, and I've

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<v Speaker 4>made some very controversial speeches and says some very controversial

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<v Speaker 4>things in my attempt to write the show, to do

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<v Speaker 4>what I could to make a difference in this country.

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<v Speaker 4>And I have had death threats on many occasions. I've

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<v Speaker 4>had security, private security on many occasions. So I know

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<v Speaker 4>the violence is out there. I know the threats are

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<v Speaker 4>out there. I always saw it as a possible thing

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<v Speaker 4>that could happen to me or or someone else that's

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<v Speaker 4>speaking their mind. Of course, Charlie Kirk had really grown

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<v Speaker 4>his audience and grown his popularity to such an extent

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<v Speaker 4>that he probably attracted an even more extreme element to

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<v Speaker 4>hate him. Sometimes I think that's hard to believe my emails.

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<v Speaker 4>Goodness gracious, there's so much violence and evil out there

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<v Speaker 4>in the world. But I remember thinking through it. Whenever

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<v Speaker 4>security was around me, the threat that we always perceived

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<v Speaker 4>would be a close proximity of threat. You know, no

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<v Speaker 4>one ever thinks about a high powered rifle. So there

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<v Speaker 4>was a lot of criticism of his security. But never,

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<v Speaker 4>at my point in any of our events did we

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<v Speaker 4>ever think about a long rifle shot. It was always

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<v Speaker 4>a short pistol, a knife, a physical assault, or something

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<v Speaker 4>of that nature. And so when it happened, I was

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<v Speaker 4>shocked like everybody else. But you also know that this population,

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<v Speaker 4>as angry as they are, especially the Left, that they're

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<v Speaker 4>going to be prone from time to time to take

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<v Speaker 4>out their frustrations on people. And this time they did

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<v Speaker 4>it violently. It doesn't surprise me they would act that way.

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<v Speaker 4>It seems part and partial of what their philosophy always

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<v Speaker 4>has been. If they don't get their way, if they disagree,

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<v Speaker 4>they immediately dehumanize their opposition. Have you noticed that. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 4>It's never a give and take a quick pro quote.

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<v Speaker 4>There's never any real conversation with the left. It's if

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<v Speaker 4>you don't believe like I believe, then you're horrible. If

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<v Speaker 4>you don't believe like I believe, then you must be censored,

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<v Speaker 4>you must be in this sense assassinated, killed. And again,

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<v Speaker 4>the elements within that party and within that philosophy, they've

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<v Speaker 4>always been violent. You go all the way back to

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<v Speaker 4>any socialist inspired movement in the history of the world,

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<v Speaker 4>and yes, fascism and socialism are close cousins. We've talked

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<v Speaker 4>about that we have. Let's not pretend these ideologies don't

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<v Speaker 4>have so much in common. They both subvert the individual,

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<v Speaker 4>they both dehumanize their opposition, and they both find ways

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<v Speaker 4>to use violence to suppress dissent. Both right, that's the

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<v Speaker 4>history of socialism, it's the history of fascism. We saw

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<v Speaker 4>it played out just a few days ago with CHARTERI

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<v Speaker 4>Kirk's assassination. So I watched it, like most of the America,

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<v Speaker 4>I was very upset. I've known Charlie. I've talked to

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<v Speaker 4>him multiple times in my life. We weren't friends, but

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<v Speaker 4>we were political acquaintances, right, And I didn't always agree

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<v Speaker 4>with some of the things he said, but he was

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<v Speaker 4>a conservative, and I valued the things he was saying

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<v Speaker 4>because notin ety nine percent of the time, he seemed

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<v Speaker 4>to be on the right side of the issues.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>He probably felt the same thing about me. He probably thought, Man,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't agree with everything he's saying, but not nine

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<v Speaker 4>percent of the time he seems to be right on

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<v Speaker 4>the issues. So the assassination occurs. When I first saw

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<v Speaker 4>the video footage, you knew I mean, for goodness. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>what a disgusting act of violence. And I was praying

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<v Speaker 4>on the plane, thinking on the plane that maybe, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe he would survive.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we didn't. It wasn't as bad as what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was.

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<v Speaker 4>But you knew, you knew. And so those few minutes

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<v Speaker 4>turned into an hour or so, and then we finally

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<v Speaker 4>got the reports that he had passed from President Trump.

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<v Speaker 4>And at that time I really felt like that was

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<v Speaker 4>a pivotal moment, not so much because it was Charlie Kirk,

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<v Speaker 4>but because there used to be a time when liberal

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<v Speaker 4>ideology was very careful about the way it spoke. I

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<v Speaker 4>think it always harbored violent feelings, but it never quite

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<v Speaker 4>would act on it. It would always you think about

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<v Speaker 4>this phrase, there was a time when liberals did not

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<v Speaker 4>like to be called socialist. Now they're openly socialists al

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<v Speaker 4>to be called socialists. So they've moved so far to

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<v Speaker 4>the left at least now it seems we're starting to

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<v Speaker 4>remember thinking, wow, this is going to be in pardon

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<v Speaker 4>the Pine. But it is a turning point. It's not

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<v Speaker 4>because this organization was the turning point, or whatever the case.

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<v Speaker 4>May be people saw this, as I think in many instances,

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<v Speaker 4>without violence and provocation. And I think maybe this was

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<v Speaker 4>culturally is will it continue? Will it make us better

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<v Speaker 4>in the long run? Will it ultimately be the one

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<v Speaker 4>weapon against our riots that we were always afraid of.

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<v Speaker 4>We're on that later, and whether or not we as

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<v Speaker 4>a country can figure out a way to get rid

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<v Speaker 4>of political violence once and for all. It was disgusting,

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<v Speaker 4>one of the worst things I've ever seen, But it

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<v Speaker 4>was even worse to watch those knuckleheads celebrated.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, and again I want to get into the celebration,

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<v Speaker 2>to speak out, to be the Chris McDaniel that we've seen,

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<v Speaker 4>No, No, you know, Look, I just I don't have

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<v Speaker 4>a spirit of fear, and I never have. Some people

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<v Speaker 4>may say that's crazy, but there's not a chance in

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<v Speaker 4>this water. I'm going to stop doing what I'm doing

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<v Speaker 4>not a chance. I don't fear. I don't go into

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<v Speaker 4>these things for trepidation. I'm strong, I know what I

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<v Speaker 4>I believe. I'm gonna speak my mind. And what happened.

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<v Speaker 4>Going back to celebration, I say, because I think that's

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<v Speaker 4>super important. What kind of personality? What kind of evil

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<v Speaker 4>do you harbor when you celebrate someone's assassination. You may

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<v Speaker 4>disagree one hundred percent with what that person believes, but

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<v Speaker 4>what about common humanity? What about just the idea that

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<v Speaker 4>you know that that guy has a mom and a dad,

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<v Speaker 4>and and and children and a wife, the idea that

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<v Speaker 4>you can move past just that bitterish just for a second.

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<v Speaker 4>And here's what's crazy. The celebration wasn't isolated. There's a

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<v Speaker 4>what's the name of that organization, There's a there's a

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<v Speaker 4>there's a Twitter or an ex for liberals, blue Sky,

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<v Speaker 4>Blue Sky, you know, you go over there and those

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<v Speaker 4>people are literally celebrating out loud, and more importantly, have

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<v Speaker 4>a list of other names. They would like to see

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<v Speaker 4>this kind of thing happen too. And I think that

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<v Speaker 4>is one of the primary differences between us and them,

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<v Speaker 4>is that we don't have that type of violent sentiment

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<v Speaker 4>that runs through our entire movement. We may have outliers

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<v Speaker 4>in the conservative movement that are prone to acts of violence,

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<v Speaker 4>but it seems to be much more prevalent in the left.

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<v Speaker 4>And I hate to use this example, but it's a

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<v Speaker 4>comparison between Christianity and Islam. You know, Christianity may have

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<v Speaker 4>elements of violence within it in smaller numbers, much more

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<v Speaker 4>so than than Islam does. It's like something becomes so

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<v Speaker 4>detached and so certain of their way that they'll do

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<v Speaker 4>anything to maintain superiority. And that strikes me as the

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<v Speaker 4>liberals and this socialist ideology have in common with this

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<v Speaker 4>more radical Islamic movement. But that struck me as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Who celebrates the death of somebody I would never do

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<v Speaker 4>You would ever do it. No common decent human being

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<v Speaker 4>that I know, and I know a lot of people

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<v Speaker 4>would have ever celebrated the death of any number of

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<v Speaker 4>liberals or socialists on the other side of the equation.

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<v Speaker 4>We would have been terrified, yeah, horrified at the act,

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<v Speaker 4>horrified that one of ours could have done it, and

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<v Speaker 4>we would have condemned it. And I keep seeing the

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<v Speaker 4>liberals say, you know, there was that assassination of the

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<v Speaker 4>Minnesota representative. But conservative did condemn that.

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<v Speaker 2>They absolutely didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>See a single person celebrate that.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you know it didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't see it. I looked because I was alarmed

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<v Speaker 4>by that as well. Anytime you walk up with somebody

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<v Speaker 4>and shoot them because of a belief system, you don't

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<v Speaker 4>belong in this country. But hey, isn't that an extension

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<v Speaker 4>of the suppression of free speech? Were already see them

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<v Speaker 4>by these people.

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<v Speaker 2>It is let me think about it.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't tow their line. They consider you to be evil,

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<v Speaker 4>you to do what they say, They want to silence you.

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<v Speaker 4>It's whether it's speech codes on college campuses or hate

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<v Speaker 4>codes in the law. It's always a power struggle with

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<v Speaker 4>these people. And whereas conservatives try to convince people that

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<v Speaker 4>they're correct, liberals always use the force of government to

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<v Speaker 4>do so. That's what makes them particularly dangerous.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Chris, part of the problem we we see is

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<v Speaker 2>this dehumanization that in the media definitely plays a part

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<v Speaker 2>in it. Again, you can't just Charlie Kirk was called

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<v Speaker 2>a racist, even though I've watched several of his vehicles

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<v Speaker 2>videos have not seen him to be a racist. He

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<v Speaker 2>has called multiple names, and all he was was a

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<v Speaker 2>guy that wanted to invite debate. He wanted to sit

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<v Speaker 2>down with the other side have that conversation, and apparently

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<v Speaker 2>having an active debate with people, especially if you're good

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<v Speaker 2>at it, it's one where their left decides that they

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<v Speaker 2>have to dehumanize you. And the media played a huge

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<v Speaker 2>part in this. If you remember, after Donald Trump's first

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<v Speaker 2>the first assassination attempt on Donald Trump, they said, we

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<v Speaker 2>got to dial back the rhetoric that last me, Chris,

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<v Speaker 2>what about a week?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, let's not remember Barack Obama, and he was an

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<v Speaker 4>excellent speaker. Arter there be a lot of times that

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<v Speaker 4>he would say, let's dogged on the rhetoric, and then

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<v Speaker 4>a week later he would up, Yeah, he's one of

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<v Speaker 4>those guys. He just throws a grenade into a room

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<v Speaker 4>and then he tries to escape before it explodes, and

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<v Speaker 4>this blame somebody for the explosion. It's the same way

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<v Speaker 4>with the American left. So one of the great dangers

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<v Speaker 4>I think we see right now in all of this

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<v Speaker 4>is that we can't and we shouldn't put too much

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<v Speaker 4>emphasis on a single individual. It's much more widespread than that.

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<v Speaker 4>Not only our ability to communicate the message, but the

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<v Speaker 4>ability to understand that everybody now potentially is at risk

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<v Speaker 4>if you have a message, and if we focus solely

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<v Speaker 4>on the Trumps of the world or the Kirks of

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<v Speaker 4>the world and the things that have happened to them,

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<v Speaker 4>we sometimes lose track of the message that they were

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<v Speaker 4>expressing that caused or at least was the cause of

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<v Speaker 4>the violent event that occurred. So you see this race

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<v Speaker 4>now to commemorate Kurt. Nothing wrong with that, But at

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<v Speaker 4>the same time, what does that mean in the overall

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<v Speaker 4>ski of the movement. You can build a monument to

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<v Speaker 4>a man, but if you keep your mouth shut, you've

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<v Speaker 4>done nothing. Yep, you can celebrate a holiday for a person,

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<v Speaker 4>but if you keep your mouth shut, you've done nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's one of the things that I've seen that's

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<v Speaker 4>really been concerning about all of this. Think about the

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<v Speaker 4>establishment GOP, and I'm talking about those old school boys

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<v Speaker 4>that have been sitting there for fifty years watching the

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<v Speaker 4>left growth, watching them dominate the culture, watching them dominate

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<v Speaker 4>the government, and have done nothing to stop the American Left.

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<v Speaker 4>But think about that. You know who they are. The

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<v Speaker 4>reason the American left is flexing is because we allow

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<v Speaker 4>them to flex absolutely all these years of being passive

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<v Speaker 4>country club Republicans, and you know who you are. You

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<v Speaker 4>don't have a principal bone or a backbone in your body.

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<v Speaker 4>You'll do anything for a dollar, you'll cut any backroom deal.

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<v Speaker 4>And you've allowed the left to exert their will on

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<v Speaker 4>Washington and state capitals all over this country. And now

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<v Speaker 4>you're rushing to build monuments to Charlie Kirk. Where's your

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<v Speaker 4>responsibility in all of this because you didn't hold the

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<v Speaker 4>line when you had a chance to hold the line.

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<v Speaker 4>We thank god for folks like Charlie Kirk because they

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<v Speaker 4>were speaking truth to power. And yet the establishment GOP

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<v Speaker 4>has never spoke truth to power. So we're happy when

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<v Speaker 4>Trump comes along. We're happy when Kirk comes along because

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<v Speaker 4>they actually say things that matter. But we never should

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<v Speaker 4>have let it get to this point in the first place.

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<v Speaker 4>Had we held the line in the nineties, in the

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<v Speaker 4>two thousands, have we held the line in twenty fourteen,

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<v Speaker 4>whatever the case may be. When you find strong conservatives

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<v Speaker 4>electum and quit playing paddy cake with the establishment GOP,

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<v Speaker 4>then you'll start making some moves that really benefit everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>But here we are again the entire establishment, rushing to

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<v Speaker 4>the vigils and rushing to the speeches like they've always

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<v Speaker 4>been there with him. He was great because he wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>like them, he men. He was great because he had

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<v Speaker 4>the courage to speak things they wouldn't speak. He was

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<v Speaker 4>great because he would talk about his faith. He would

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<v Speaker 4>talk call this rigid concern to believe. Meanwhile, they're making

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<v Speaker 4>backroom deals behind his back and undercutting them every chance

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<v Speaker 4>they got. Right, So where are we now? Are we

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<v Speaker 4>going to hold a vigil and let the same established

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<v Speaker 4>my GOP cats come in there and speak and take

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<v Speaker 4>credit or not really credit, but they show you how

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<v Speaker 4>sorry they were, when in fact, a lot of this

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<v Speaker 4>not the assassination the government as a whole. The growth

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<v Speaker 4>of the government as a whole falls on their shoulders.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm concerned about how all this transpires henceforth. Charlie

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<v Speaker 4>Kirk's a good man, has a good family. He needs

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<v Speaker 4>to be honored because of that. But we also find

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<v Speaker 4>honor and action. I hope that makes sense to people

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<v Speaker 4>out there. You can't just go to a vigil and

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<v Speaker 4>then not vote during the next election. You can't just

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<v Speaker 4>post some cool things on Facebook and then not support

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<v Speaker 4>conservative candidates in the next election. And how often have

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<v Speaker 4>we seen that? Think about it?

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<v Speaker 2>Far too often.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, Chris, go on and jump out there, man,

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<v Speaker 4>I got you back. Then you call them you want

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<v Speaker 4>to knock some doors. Oh, I'm too busy to knocked doors.

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<v Speaker 4>Can I get one hundred dollars? Oh? I wish I

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<v Speaker 4>could help you. Oh, but they'll go to a vigil.

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<v Speaker 4>You see the problem action? And you and I have

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<v Speaker 4>been talking about action for twenty years. What will you

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<v Speaker 4>do now that the devil is steering you right in

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<v Speaker 4>the face. That's the question, and they are.

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<v Speaker 2>And that leads to me and to my next question. Chris,

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<v Speaker 2>Let me think this is the line in the sand. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>You would think something would eventually tipt the dominoes over.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, think about it. It's not our loss of liberty.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not a thirty six trillion dollar national Dad. It's

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<v Speaker 4>not the fact that we can't speak our minds in

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<v Speaker 4>our schools or pray to our God. It's not the

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<v Speaker 4>fact that we get ridiculed everywhere we go. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know what it's going to take. Maybe maybe this is

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<v Speaker 4>this is something that's needed to make sure the conservatives

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<v Speaker 4>wake up. But it should have never come to this

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<v Speaker 4>in the first place. It was an evil act done

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<v Speaker 4>by evil people, and goodness gracious, what do we do now.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm only asking people to not to fight physically, forget

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<v Speaker 4>all that. I'm talking about fighting politically and rediscovering your

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<v Speaker 4>in the first place, American institutions and traditions and faith

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<v Speaker 4>me to my next question. While I'm complaining, we can't

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<v Speaker 4>What hold on, I'm getting to it. Let's say, let's

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<v Speaker 4>put it another way. You can't hate them so much

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<v Speaker 4>more than you love the Constitution. You gotta love the

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<v Speaker 4>constitution first. And what does that mean in practice? You

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<v Speaker 4>can't curtil their liberties? Yep. You got to respect their

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<v Speaker 4>choices up to a certain point, can't, don't you you do?

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<v Speaker 4>I heard an alarming comment a few days ago, and

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<v Speaker 4>thank god it's been it's been corrected because Poum Bondi indicated.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember, we're not going.

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<v Speaker 4>After hate speech. But she did correct that. I thought

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<v Speaker 4>that was a really you know why move on her part. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>but the problem about going after hate speech is is

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<v Speaker 4>that that's protected speech. You say, how's that possible? Well,

433
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<v Speaker 4>hate speech is subjective, and who decides.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's my fear. Who does decide?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you want Barack Obama deciding what hate speech is? No,

436
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<v Speaker 4>do you want AOC demanding or deciding what hate speech is?

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<v Speaker 4>Because if AOC demands what hate speech is, we're cooked.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be a different definition than what we believe.

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<v Speaker 4>You're going straight to jail at that point. So remember,

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<v Speaker 4>hate speech is protected speech. The speech that's not protected

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<v Speaker 4>is speech that it cites insights, immediate violence, or immediate

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<v Speaker 4>physical threats. That's different than hate speech. So Bondi did

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<v Speaker 4>clarify that's what she was talking about. But when she

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<v Speaker 4>first said it, I said, oh, no, here we go,

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<v Speaker 4>here we go. We're starting to hate the liberals more

446
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<v Speaker 4>than we love the constitution, right, And I get you

447
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<v Speaker 4>got to push back, but it has to be done

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<v Speaker 4>with respect to liberty and individual freedom, consistent with our charter,

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<v Speaker 4>because one day we may not hold the power with

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<v Speaker 4>that federal government, and if you create this bad precedent,

451
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<v Speaker 4>they're going to come back to harness with it. Am

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<v Speaker 4>I right?

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<v Speaker 2>You're one hundred percent right, Chris. And it is part

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<v Speaker 2>of what makes everything that's going on right now extremely frightening,

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<v Speaker 2>not just because you could be shot merely for engaging

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<v Speaker 2>in debate, but also because if there is a gross overreaction,

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<v Speaker 2>then we could lose potential rights. And again I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to agree with the liberal but I should be

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<v Speaker 2>willing to fight for their right to say whatever they want,

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<v Speaker 2>because again, that is freedom of speech. We don't need

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<v Speaker 2>to concede and give away because at some point we're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to be the party in power.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's not just with speech. Sometimes liberty is a

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<v Speaker 4>very uncomfortable component. And part of what makes it uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 4>is is that what's good for me may not be

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<v Speaker 4>good for you, and vice versa. Yeah, and you find

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<v Speaker 4>elements within both parties that try to control the other

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<v Speaker 4>people and try to control the other party. From my perspective,

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<v Speaker 4>if you're using force to control, coercion to control, big

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<v Speaker 4>government to control, you're on the wrong side of his problem.

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<v Speaker 4>You're on the wrong side of history. It doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 4>if you're a leftist or a conservative, if you're using

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<v Speaker 4>force on a fellow man to control them their thoughts,

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<v Speaker 4>the behavior, their speech, their religion, whatever the case may be,

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<v Speaker 4>you may claim you know better, you may claim you

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<v Speaker 4>did it for the right purposes. But America is not

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<v Speaker 4>built on coersion or force. Heck, I thought we were

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<v Speaker 4>built on a small government concept. And it's the very

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<v Speaker 4>thing the left hates about us, because we do try

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<v Speaker 4>to tell them from time to time that big government

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<v Speaker 4>is not the answer. But let's not forget. Their whole

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<v Speaker 4>movement is predicated on control, so they need big government

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<v Speaker 4>to control. What we have to do is find ways

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<v Speaker 4>to dismantle it so it's not so big, so it

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't exercise quite so much control. And my fear is,

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<v Speaker 4>if we're not careful, we're gonna let these terrifying, horrific

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<v Speaker 4>moments put us in a position where we enlarge the

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<v Speaker 4>government in power of the government, then that very tool

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<v Speaker 4>will be used against us in the future generation. So

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<v Speaker 4>you know, we've got to be careful about using the

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<v Speaker 4>force of government to win these battles when we should

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<v Speaker 4>be winning these battles on ideas alone. And here's the

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<v Speaker 4>big news conservatism is now more mainstream than it was

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<v Speaker 4>just a few weeks ago. I agree, because this happened,

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<v Speaker 4>this tragic event occurred to him, this horrific event, and

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<v Speaker 4>the people out there at least begin to wake up

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<v Speaker 4>and say, you know what, our opposition is a little batty. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>they are violent in some respects, and so that elevates

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<v Speaker 4>the I think, the need to get something done more quickly.

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<v Speaker 4>And so now people are talking about conservative ideas openly

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<v Speaker 4>for the first time in some time, without shame, and

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<v Speaker 4>that's a good place to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris, before we go have to take a break, I

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<v Speaker 2>do want to ask you again, remove the politicians that

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<v Speaker 2>are there. But what does it say to see that

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<v Speaker 2>many people turn out for a memorial service like that?

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<v Speaker 2>Does that? Is that encouraging that maybe these folks.

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<v Speaker 4>Only only to the extent they take the next that's

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<v Speaker 4>my point, only they take the next step. You think

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<v Speaker 4>about this. We put so much emphasis on a presidential

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<v Speaker 4>election every four years. People will actually come out to

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<v Speaker 4>vote for that, and then the votes that matter just

513
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<v Speaker 4>as much, if not more, as it pertains to your life,

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<v Speaker 4>your state government. No one wants to get involved, and

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<v Speaker 4>that begs the question if you really want to turn

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<v Speaker 4>things around. If this really is a turning point, then

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<v Speaker 4>it's going to take more effort than attending a vigil.

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<v Speaker 4>Because look, we've been really good at I'm not being critically,

519
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<v Speaker 4>I promise, but I've been down and have watched from

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<v Speaker 4>the beach these massive trump what do they call these things?

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<v Speaker 2>Vote rallies?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and what do they do? All the votes go

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<v Speaker 4>and they get the flags, and that's really neat, but

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<v Speaker 4>it has never won an election. No, it's really cool.

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<v Speaker 4>But all that manpower and money for the gasoline, money

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<v Speaker 4>for the flags, if you chose the right candidate and

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<v Speaker 4>back the right candidate for a US center position or

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<v Speaker 4>a congressional position, you might be surprised how you can

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<v Speaker 4>change this country. So those rallies are fun and they're

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<v Speaker 4>important because there are places we can, you know, share

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<v Speaker 4>camaraderie and share ideas and project those ideas. But it

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<v Speaker 4>means nothing unless you take it to the streets, so

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<v Speaker 4>to speak. Your local counselman matter, your sheriff matters, right,

534
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<v Speaker 4>your supervisors matter. And you want to let conservatives across

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<v Speaker 4>the board. I'm not talking about you know, Johnny come

536
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<v Speaker 4>lucky lately, Republicans I'm talking about conservatives, you know, and

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<v Speaker 4>trust I don't know why we can engage at that level.

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<v Speaker 4>So you're right to see these visuals. I love it.

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<v Speaker 4>What now, what do you do now? Do you go

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<v Speaker 4>to the vigil and say, you know, that was a

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<v Speaker 4>great visual, let's go back to work, or do you

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<v Speaker 4>get to work on things that really matter to this country.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the question, and that's that's always the concern because

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<v Speaker 2>we see so many times where people something like this happens.

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<v Speaker 2>They rally for a moment, but then when it matters

546
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<v Speaker 2>like elections like you're talking about, they stay at home again,

547
00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:08.079
<v Speaker 2>they or they just don't want to get involved for

548
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<v Speaker 2>whatever reason. And it's now is the time to choose involvement.

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<v Speaker 2>Now is the time again. If you believe in what

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie Kirk was saying, if you believe in what he

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<v Speaker 2>was fighting for, then you should be motivated to action,

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<v Speaker 2>not just to be seen.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a really good man, really good family, and I

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<v Speaker 4>feel so terrible about what's happened to him and his

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<v Speaker 4>mom and his dad, and his wife and his kids.

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<v Speaker 4>And this will be a memory for us, It will

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<v Speaker 4>be a stepping stone for our movement for a long,

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<v Speaker 4>long time. But going back to my original point, what

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<v Speaker 4>will you do now? I mean, look, I'm gonna know.

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<v Speaker 4>I know I'm a pessimist. I get that. But we've

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<v Speaker 4>seen not things quite like this. But we've seen people

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<v Speaker 4>rally and then we've seen them quit. Yep, and they're

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<v Speaker 4>already a little bit, then they'll quit. How far will

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<v Speaker 4>you go? Right? How much you're willing to fight and

565
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<v Speaker 4>really do something for a change. This is more than speeches.

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<v Speaker 4>It's more than get togethers and cocktail parties. This is

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<v Speaker 4>the call to action for the entire country if you

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<v Speaker 4>value what's left of this country. And I pray for them,

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<v Speaker 4>I pray for that family. I'm so sorry this all happened.

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<v Speaker 4>But now what do we do? Yeah, and that's the

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<v Speaker 4>real question.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, And I think Chris, we're up on the break,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'll take us out for a change. This is

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<v Speaker 2>Chris McDaniel's America. I'm interviewing Chris today and when we

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<v Speaker 2>get back, well, we may shift gears and we may

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<v Speaker 2>finish up on this topic, but we got several more

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<v Speaker 2>topics we want to cover with Chris today.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome back to Chris McDaniel's America. Here on the Midnight

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<v Speaker 4>Ride Network treat today. I think it is anyway, I

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<v Speaker 4>am actually being interviewed by Jack as opposed to just

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<v Speaker 4>talking about news as the case may be. So let's

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<v Speaker 4>return to the scheduled programming and go from there.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, Chris and I did have one more question on this,

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie kirksa fascination. As always when something like this happens,

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<v Speaker 2>conspiracy theories run wild. You've seen them. You've seen multiple

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<v Speaker 2>folks you know, tap into you know, maybe this is

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<v Speaker 2>why he was shot, Maybe this is it. It almost

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<v Speaker 2>seems like whatever the official story is, even if the

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<v Speaker 2>official story is correct, there are people out there that

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<v Speaker 2>just are never going to accept it and want to

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<v Speaker 2>run with conspiracies. What are you making of some of

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<v Speaker 2>the conspiracy theories that have been thrown out in this assassiny.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I told you when we first started this show

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<v Speaker 4>that I'm not a fan of conspiracy theories, and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>gonna tell you why that is, Because if the proof

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<v Speaker 4>is there, I can be convinced. Yeah, But more often

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<v Speaker 4>than not, with conspiracy theories, there's no proof. It's speculation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yea.

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<v Speaker 4>And I guess my training in the law and my

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<v Speaker 4>training because of my Dad, I told you years ago

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<v Speaker 4>that I wasn't allowed to have an opinion or make

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<v Speaker 4>an argument. Let's add sources. That's kind of a funny

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<v Speaker 4>thing he always did. Fine, your position is great. I

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<v Speaker 4>like the fact you've said it. Now, go get me

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<v Speaker 4>two sources. I want to see exactly where you got

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<v Speaker 4>this position. So this is the way I look at it.

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<v Speaker 4>Humans and we're all the same in the sense that

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<v Speaker 4>we don't know really how to calculate and understand tragedy.

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<v Speaker 4>It's hard for us to really understand why these things occur.

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<v Speaker 4>And what if I told you that the world is

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes a very chaotic place. People don't like to assume

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<v Speaker 4>that or to confess that. We believe because it makes

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<v Speaker 4>us sleep better at night that there's a degree of

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<v Speaker 4>control over things. You know, somebody will take care of it.

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<v Speaker 4>You've probably heard that. We hear about all these disasters

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<v Speaker 4>and we always think, well, somebody's going to take care

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<v Speaker 4>of that. Somebody's going to handle that. The reality is

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<v Speaker 4>the world and civilization and countries are very fragile things.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't like to confess that. Secondly, when we see

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<v Speaker 4>tragedy occur to someone as good and wholesome as Charlie Kirk.

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<v Speaker 4>It dawns on us. Heck, we're all kind of at risk, right,

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<v Speaker 4>and it Dawn's also give well, why couldn't they have

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<v Speaker 4>stopped that? And it creates a cycle of uncertainty that

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<v Speaker 4>we try to explain, to rationalize this tragic thing that

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<v Speaker 4>we've seen. Sometimes the answer is really simple. Sometimes the

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<v Speaker 4>answer is just as simple like a maniac kid with

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<v Speaker 4>a high powered rifle shot somebody. Sometimes it's that simple.

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<v Speaker 4>But if we can see that, it makes us feel

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<v Speaker 4>even more insecure because we think, oh my god, if

630
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<v Speaker 4>it's that simple, why couldn't they have stopped it? So

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<v Speaker 4>our minds raised at the stage there must have been

632
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<v Speaker 4>a conspiracy or they would have stopped it. It makes

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<v Speaker 4>us feel better to walk down that path, to believe

634
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<v Speaker 4>there must have been bigger forces at play, when most

635
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<v Speaker 4>assassinations there are a lot of big forces at play.

636
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<v Speaker 4>The great majority are just lunatics. Yeah, right, So we

637
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<v Speaker 4>try to rationalize it. It makes us feel better. And immediately

638
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<v Speaker 4>after this happened, I start getting tons of text.

639
00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:50.119
<v Speaker 2>And emails I can imagine, and the emails.

640
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<v Speaker 4>Run the gambit. This was a conspiracy involving Israel. I've

641
00:35:53.719 --> 00:35:56.280
<v Speaker 4>seen in the evidence of that this is a conspiracy

642
00:35:56.360 --> 00:36:00.360
<v Speaker 4>involving leftist radical groups that fall on money to this person.

643
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<v Speaker 4>This money fundamental to theirst person, and I haven't seen

644
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<v Speaker 4>any evidence of that. But here's why I thing happens.

645
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<v Speaker 4>A to rationalize it, to make us all feel like

646
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<v Speaker 4>maybe somebody really is in control when they're not. Or

647
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<v Speaker 4>number two, maybe social media is just driving us all crazy.

648
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<v Speaker 4>Hear large part to hear me out here. The loudest

649
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<v Speaker 4>voices on social media get the most cliques, The more

650
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<v Speaker 4>wild eyed the idea, the more clicks it gets. Don't

651
00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:35.679
<v Speaker 4>think these commentators just sit there and don't speculate about

652
00:36:35.719 --> 00:36:39.159
<v Speaker 4>how to get more views and how to get more clicks.

653
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<v Speaker 4>And the answer has been, regrettably, say the craziest thing

654
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<v Speaker 4>you can say, and once all the other people rush

655
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<v Speaker 4>to the page, clicks equate to money. Right. It gives

656
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<v Speaker 4>you that dopamine hit when you start seeing people like

657
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:55.079
<v Speaker 4>your post. It makes you feel special and privileged. How

658
00:36:55.079 --> 00:36:58.239
<v Speaker 4>do you get there? Say something wacky, say something extreme,

659
00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:01.400
<v Speaker 4>say something over the top. It's like talk radio was

660
00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:03.280
<v Speaker 4>back in the day when you and I were on it.

661
00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:06.000
<v Speaker 4>I could have been in some respects and part of

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00:37:06.159 --> 00:37:08.360
<v Speaker 4>the most boring radio host in the world. But if

663
00:37:08.360 --> 00:37:12.280
<v Speaker 4>I say something crazy, everybody talked about it. It's like

664
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<v Speaker 4>that now times a thousand, and so the first people

665
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<v Speaker 4>they get heard quickly after something like this are the

666
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<v Speaker 4>loudest people the conspiracy or any of people, and they

667
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:25.480
<v Speaker 4>say things and good people are confused, and then they

668
00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:28.960
<v Speaker 4>share it, and now you've got this full fledged conspiracy.

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<v Speaker 4>Now the reason I don't think there is in this case,

670
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<v Speaker 4>and again people are hating on me right now because

671
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<v Speaker 4>I'm saying I don't think there is. If you help evidence,

672
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<v Speaker 4>send it, I'll read it. You probably can convince me.

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<v Speaker 4>But I just have to see the evidence. Give us

674
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<v Speaker 4>a conspiracy, facts, give me some facts. But if there

675
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<v Speaker 4>is a conspiracy, aren't you implicating the entire state of Utah?

676
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Anybody thought about that. I mean, I realize I don't

678
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<v Speaker 4>trust the FEDS. I don't think anybody should trust the FEDS.

679
00:37:54.400 --> 00:37:57.119
<v Speaker 4>I haven't trusted the FEDS in like since you know,

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<v Speaker 4>part of the seventeen hundreds, right, yeah, Utah. So all

681
00:38:03.079 --> 00:38:06.239
<v Speaker 4>these conspiracies and all these Utah law enforcement officers that

682
00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:07.599
<v Speaker 4>were on the ground that day, that have done the

683
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:10.360
<v Speaker 4>investigation that day, that have been with this person or

684
00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:14.199
<v Speaker 4>had been researching this. Don't you think those individuals, had

685
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:17.719
<v Speaker 4>they sensed a broader conspiracy, would be yelling at the

686
00:38:17.719 --> 00:38:20.159
<v Speaker 4>top of their lungs or we're not hearing it from

687
00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:23.360
<v Speaker 4>Utau authorities now the Feds. I get nobody trust the Feds,

688
00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:26.639
<v Speaker 4>but I'm pretty sure you can trust that local sheriff

689
00:38:26.679 --> 00:38:30.119
<v Speaker 4>there in his deputies in Utah. So no, I don't

690
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:32.719
<v Speaker 4>think this is a widespread conspiracy. I think it was

691
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<v Speaker 4>a lunatic, a madman who was evil. That's something else

692
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<v Speaker 4>we don't like calling evil evil.

693
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<v Speaker 2>No, we don't, so we.

694
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<v Speaker 4>Try to explain it away. He was evil. He got

695
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<v Speaker 4>radicalized somewhere, more than likely by a leftist. I know

696
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<v Speaker 4>they're trying to fight that now they say there's no

697
00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:53.559
<v Speaker 4>proof of that. Well, he didn't go there as a

698
00:38:53.599 --> 00:38:57.199
<v Speaker 4>young Republican No, okay. So he was there from an

699
00:38:57.239 --> 00:39:00.559
<v Speaker 4>ideological bend and he shot him because he was theology

700
00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:05.039
<v Speaker 4>it seems the reason he probably did not share his ideology,

701
00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:07.599
<v Speaker 4>which is why he was shot. So this guy was

702
00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:11.920
<v Speaker 4>a radical leftist in my mind, No, a terrorist. Yeah,

703
00:39:12.039 --> 00:39:15.960
<v Speaker 4>he did that to influence a civilian population or government

704
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<v Speaker 4>in voke terror. He did it to him vote Tara,

705
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<v Speaker 4>see what it is. He's evil, but we don't want

706
00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:23.360
<v Speaker 4>to do that. It makes us feel bad. That's what

707
00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:24.679
<v Speaker 4>that act was. It was an act of.

708
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<v Speaker 2>Pure evil, absolutely, Chris, And you're talking about how rationalizing,

709
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<v Speaker 2>and that's why I wanted to go there before. Of course,

710
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<v Speaker 2>Jimmy Kimmel, late night talk show host, he's been suspended

711
00:39:36.119 --> 00:39:40.320
<v Speaker 2>by ABC, potentially going to be canceled. Who knows what

712
00:39:40.760 --> 00:39:45.159
<v Speaker 2>they ultimately do in this scenario. He basically was trying

713
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:51.039
<v Speaker 2>to somehow paint the shooter as MAGA influenced in a

714
00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:54.960
<v Speaker 2>statement he made that was pretty idiotic. And it just

715
00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:58.159
<v Speaker 2>seems to me that again, and it's not just Jimmy Kimmel,

716
00:39:58.159 --> 00:40:01.960
<v Speaker 2>because we saw countless liberals, whether it was professors at

717
00:40:01.960 --> 00:40:05.199
<v Speaker 2>All Miss or Middle Tennessee State or wherever they all were,

718
00:40:05.239 --> 00:40:09.159
<v Speaker 2>all over the country. You saw comic book authors have

719
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<v Speaker 2>their entire series canceled because of the hateful, nonsense stuff

720
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<v Speaker 2>that they were saying in the wake of this assassination.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's talk about that for a second, because you're bringing

722
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<v Speaker 4>up the topic of council culture. Council culture, everybody's heard

723
00:40:26.519 --> 00:40:31.000
<v Speaker 4>it by now, and we can't be ignorant to the

724
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<v Speaker 4>fact that that council culture was not started by our

725
00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:37.440
<v Speaker 4>side of the equation. We've always been the free speech

726
00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:40.800
<v Speaker 4>side of the calculation. We've always believed in free expression.

727
00:40:41.280 --> 00:40:46.280
<v Speaker 4>But universities and talk shows and even Twitter. You do

728
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<v Speaker 4>realize President Trump was tossed off of a platform because

729
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<v Speaker 4>of his viewpoints. Yeah, you do realize that conservative writers

730
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<v Speaker 4>and authors were tossed. All are censored on platforms because

731
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<v Speaker 4>of their viewpoints. So this council culture thing we didn't start.

732
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<v Speaker 4>But now we're playing by your rules. And what occurs

733
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<v Speaker 4>now is I'm not saying it's correct, are right, I'm

734
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<v Speaker 4>just saying that you know, you reap the wind. Now

735
00:41:09.719 --> 00:41:11.559
<v Speaker 4>you got to read the world wind, right, you saw

736
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<v Speaker 4>on the wind. Now you got to read the world wind,

737
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:15.320
<v Speaker 4>which is what the liberals have done. So they go

738
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<v Speaker 4>five six, seven years canceling things, taking image just off

739
00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:22.719
<v Speaker 4>of a circle, I mean, everything they can imagine they

740
00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:25.880
<v Speaker 4>canceled and tore down, right, and now they're wonder of

741
00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:28.960
<v Speaker 4>why this is being kind of placed back in their lap. Well,

742
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:32.440
<v Speaker 4>here's let's go over that. As an initial matter. I

743
00:41:32.519 --> 00:41:35.599
<v Speaker 4>believe in freedom of expression, even if I disagree with it.

744
00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:39.719
<v Speaker 4>I want to be clear about that. And if government

745
00:41:40.760 --> 00:41:45.239
<v Speaker 4>imposes a punishment as a result of your speech, that's

746
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:49.079
<v Speaker 4>absolutely wrong if government does it, because remember the First

747
00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:52.119
<v Speaker 4>Amendment does it say what an employer has to do.

748
00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:56.800
<v Speaker 4>It says what government must do. Yeah, does that make sense?

749
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<v Speaker 2>It does.

750
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<v Speaker 4>It's called state action. So until there's state the First

751
00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:03.559
<v Speaker 4>Amendment's not really implicated. Let's just be clear about that.

752
00:42:03.760 --> 00:42:07.840
<v Speaker 4>So these people that were working at this place or

753
00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:10.039
<v Speaker 4>this place or that place and they lost their jobs.

754
00:42:10.119 --> 00:42:13.639
<v Speaker 4>So you were at Dunkin Donuts and you posted something

755
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<v Speaker 4>on your social media account about the assassination, and Duncan

756
00:42:17.639 --> 00:42:21.039
<v Speaker 4>Donuts says, WHOA, you can't you got to go. There's

757
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<v Speaker 4>no First Amendment violation there because there's no state action there. Okay, Now,

758
00:42:26.679 --> 00:42:29.440
<v Speaker 4>if the government punishes you for speaking, that's different. However,

759
00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:33.639
<v Speaker 4>there are some distinctions there. A university, for instance, that's

760
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<v Speaker 4>supposed to be a welcoming, wholesome place and depends on

761
00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:40.599
<v Speaker 4>people to sign up to the university, and a professor

762
00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:43.400
<v Speaker 4>as says something completely out of line with university policy,

763
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<v Speaker 4>then the university may very well can take action even

764
00:42:46.239 --> 00:42:49.559
<v Speaker 4>though it's technically a government entity. The key here from

765
00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:52.039
<v Speaker 4>a First Amendment expression is that the government can't punish

766
00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:55.519
<v Speaker 4>you for speaking or take away rights for speaking. However,

767
00:42:55.519 --> 00:42:57.239
<v Speaker 4>a lot of these folks that got fired, they weren't

768
00:42:57.239 --> 00:43:01.159
<v Speaker 4>government employees. There were knuckleheads, and here's the way that works.

769
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<v Speaker 4>They have every right to say what they say, but

770
00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:07.960
<v Speaker 4>there are repercussions when you say stupid things. If I

771
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<v Speaker 4>had an employee and they said something stupid like that,

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00:43:11.079 --> 00:43:14.440
<v Speaker 4>oh they're gone. They first amend the violation there. So

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<v Speaker 4>part of me was really really happy to see these

774
00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:21.719
<v Speaker 4>liberals now hunting for new jobs. It's maddening to me

775
00:43:21.920 --> 00:43:26.039
<v Speaker 4>when you think about the way they phrase their positions.

776
00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:31.440
<v Speaker 4>They think they should have freedom of speech. Okay, fine,

777
00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:35.039
<v Speaker 4>but Charlie Kurk was killed because the freedom of speech

778
00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:38.280
<v Speaker 4>us and you think you're a job to be protective.

779
00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:39.199
<v Speaker 4>But his life shouldn't have.

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<v Speaker 2>Been Yeah, because you're celebrating it.

781
00:43:41.719 --> 00:43:43.880
<v Speaker 4>What a weird position that is. But it goes to

782
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<v Speaker 4>show how inhuman some of these folks have to come.

783
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<v Speaker 4>Let's talk about that for a second. I've given this

784
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<v Speaker 4>some thought, some real thought. I saw a British philosopher

785
00:43:55.400 --> 00:44:01.199
<v Speaker 4>writing about the assassination and writing about American culture. Now,

786
00:44:01.320 --> 00:44:03.800
<v Speaker 4>whenever the Brits have an opinion about American culture. I

787
00:44:03.880 --> 00:44:06.679
<v Speaker 4>always listen because the Brits are senseless most of the time,

788
00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:09.239
<v Speaker 4>but I like to hear what they have to say.

789
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<v Speaker 4>I mean, we don't want to be lectured by people

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<v Speaker 4>that we tossed out of here a couple of hundred

791
00:44:13.960 --> 00:44:18.960
<v Speaker 4>years ago, right, especially people like the Brits. But nevertheless, nevertheless,

792
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<v Speaker 4>his position was this, and I want you to hear

793
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<v Speaker 4>this because it's really interesting. He says, the problem with

794
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<v Speaker 4>this country and the reason we're seeing this rise in violence.

795
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<v Speaker 4>He says, what's predictable because when you grow up in America,

796
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<v Speaker 4>you're taught from day one that you can be anything

797
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<v Speaker 4>you want to be. You're taught from day one that

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<v Speaker 4>you can rise past your birth Yep. You're taught from

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<v Speaker 4>day one that any man can be president in this country.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know that gum Joe Biden proved that. He

801
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<v Speaker 4>proved it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm ready for that one.

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<v Speaker 4>You're taught, you're taught all of these things growing up.

804
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<v Speaker 4>But he said, it provides a problem. Here's the problem.

805
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<v Speaker 4>He goes, you have this ultimate liberty, and you teach

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<v Speaker 4>kids unrealistic expectations, and he says, they rise or attempt

807
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<v Speaker 4>to rise past their class, past their birth. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>the British are still very class wise people. You rise

809
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<v Speaker 4>past your birth, and then what he said, he goes

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<v Speaker 4>you Ultimately something happens, the economic ladder is kicked out

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<v Speaker 4>from under you, or there's some bad luck, maybe there's

812
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<v Speaker 4>a sickness, maybe there's an illness, and for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 4>you never quite got to the place that you believed

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<v Speaker 4>you were entitled to get. Does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it does.

816
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<v Speaker 4>We get this. You never quite got to the place

817
00:45:38.239 --> 00:45:40.599
<v Speaker 4>that you thought you were going to get. He says

818
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<v Speaker 4>that builds resentment and hatred. And he says, you can't

819
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<v Speaker 4>blame yourself because that would be too self responsible. So

820
00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:50.519
<v Speaker 4>what do you do? You lash out at society. The

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<v Speaker 4>reason I don't have a boat is because of capitalism.

822
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<v Speaker 4>The reason I can't pay my bills is because of

823
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<v Speaker 4>capitalistm The reason I can't do X, Y and Z

824
00:45:58.000 --> 00:46:00.280
<v Speaker 4>is because of Donald Trump. So he says it creates

825
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<v Speaker 4>this massive degree of anger and resentment. And he says

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<v Speaker 4>liberty is the problem, not the solution. He says, you

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<v Speaker 4>teach the wrong lessons from birth, and you give people

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<v Speaker 4>too much license, and it creates this dynamic and I said,

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<v Speaker 4>WHOA interesting because a lot of people believe that they

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<v Speaker 4>believe we have too many liberties. I've heard people say that,

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<v Speaker 4>I know we have too many liberties. They never asked

832
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<v Speaker 4>a follow up question, how do you control those liberties

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<v Speaker 4>except through force, not persuasion, through force and coercion, right,

834
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<v Speaker 4>which creates tyranny? Yep, forget this. His underlying argument made

835
00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:37.760
<v Speaker 4>sense initially to me, but then I thought, wait a second.

836
00:46:38.079 --> 00:46:41.079
<v Speaker 4>We've been We've been teaching our kids that since the

837
00:46:41.199 --> 00:46:44.440
<v Speaker 4>very inception of this country, when our families came here,

838
00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:46.719
<v Speaker 4>whether it was Ireland to Scotland in the eighteen thirties.

839
00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:51.039
<v Speaker 4>They were taught that, but people weren't shooting each other

840
00:46:51.079 --> 00:46:54.920
<v Speaker 4>over thought. They were taught there, but people weren't mad

841
00:46:54.960 --> 00:46:57.880
<v Speaker 4>all the time. They were taught you could do whatever

842
00:46:57.920 --> 00:46:59.920
<v Speaker 4>you want to do in this world. But whenever they

843
00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:02.880
<v Speaker 4>worst stopped economically, or they didn't aspire or get where

844
00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:05.480
<v Speaker 4>they wanted to get for some reason, they didn't get

845
00:47:05.519 --> 00:47:07.280
<v Speaker 4>angry about it and lash out of the system. Think

846
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:10.639
<v Speaker 4>about it. This is a new phenomenon. So the question

847
00:47:10.840 --> 00:47:13.079
<v Speaker 4>is that the American dream and liberty. The question is

848
00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:18.199
<v Speaker 4>what are we missing now that we had then? That's

849
00:47:18.239 --> 00:47:21.400
<v Speaker 4>the question. Because we didn't see all these shootings. Then

850
00:47:21.960 --> 00:47:25.239
<v Speaker 4>you didn't see school shootings and mass shootings, then you

851
00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:28.239
<v Speaker 4>didn't see all this anger. Then what's different? The question

852
00:47:28.440 --> 00:47:29.960
<v Speaker 4>is this is going to make all of you mad.

853
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:33.159
<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, but it's the truth. We have lost the

854
00:47:33.159 --> 00:47:38.679
<v Speaker 4>most civilizing force that was necessary for America to survive,

855
00:47:40.119 --> 00:47:43.480
<v Speaker 4>and that's Christianity. Amen, we hear me out. Because I'm

856
00:47:43.480 --> 00:47:45.880
<v Speaker 4>not a perfect person. I'm a sinner, and I'm not

857
00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:48.280
<v Speaker 4>good at judging people. Because I know I'm a sitter

858
00:47:48.360 --> 00:47:49.880
<v Speaker 4>and I've got my own problems. Let me tell you

859
00:47:49.880 --> 00:47:54.360
<v Speaker 4>something about that. You can't take a population, give them

860
00:47:54.400 --> 00:47:58.840
<v Speaker 4>all this liberty and freedom, and then remove the variability

861
00:47:58.880 --> 00:48:01.159
<v Speaker 4>for them to self regulate their own lives and affairs.

862
00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:05.360
<v Speaker 4>You may think theology is wrong, you may think Christianity

863
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:08.800
<v Speaker 4>is wrong, but you got to concede. It gives people purpose,

864
00:48:09.679 --> 00:48:13.159
<v Speaker 4>It gives them compassion, It makes them care about their

865
00:48:13.199 --> 00:48:15.800
<v Speaker 4>fellow man, and even when they finally get to that

866
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:18.920
<v Speaker 4>point where they can't go any further economically, we're taught

867
00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:22.519
<v Speaker 4>not to be jealous. We're taught not to be selfish.

868
00:48:22.800 --> 00:48:25.960
<v Speaker 4>We're taught to know our place because God has a plan.

869
00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:31.159
<v Speaker 4>There is a peace in that plan that God provides.

870
00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:34.119
<v Speaker 4>But now what we've done, we've taken a whole generation

871
00:48:34.199 --> 00:48:36.760
<v Speaker 4>of kids and we've told them God doesn't exist. We've

872
00:48:36.760 --> 00:48:39.960
<v Speaker 4>taken a whole generation of kids. We've pulled them out

873
00:48:39.960 --> 00:48:42.840
<v Speaker 4>of church. And like I said, you may think Christianity

874
00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:46.159
<v Speaker 4>is no good whatever, you have to concede that that

875
00:48:46.760 --> 00:48:50.880
<v Speaker 4>was the glue that was holding us all together. We

876
00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:52.920
<v Speaker 4>didn't hate each other then because we were taught not

877
00:48:53.039 --> 00:48:55.920
<v Speaker 4>to hate, right, We didn't think the other sign was

878
00:48:55.920 --> 00:48:57.599
<v Speaker 4>evil because we knew what evil was.

879
00:48:57.800 --> 00:49:00.440
<v Speaker 2>We still had disagreements, we were able to be civil

880
00:49:00.480 --> 00:49:00.920
<v Speaker 2>about it.

881
00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:03.760
<v Speaker 4>Now, when you remove that component, which is a civil

882
00:49:03.960 --> 00:49:06.960
<v Speaker 4>you may think it's not, it is a civilizing component.

883
00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:11.440
<v Speaker 4>It makes us less barbaric to act with compassion and

884
00:49:11.559 --> 00:49:15.920
<v Speaker 4>care and grace and understanding and forgiveness. We all know

885
00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:18.320
<v Speaker 4>we stink, we all know we're sinners, but we at

886
00:49:18.400 --> 00:49:21.679
<v Speaker 4>least treat each other with a degree of forgiveness and compassion.

887
00:49:21.880 --> 00:49:24.599
<v Speaker 4>But you remove that from a population and now you've

888
00:49:24.599 --> 00:49:29.199
<v Speaker 4>got bitterness and resentment and hate. And then you bring

889
00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:32.239
<v Speaker 4>up Christianity and they hate you even more because you

890
00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:36.000
<v Speaker 4>dared even mention it. We're not trying to impose it.

891
00:49:36.440 --> 00:49:39.960
<v Speaker 4>We're not trying to force it. That would be antithetical

892
00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:43.079
<v Speaker 4>to everything in this country. We're just suggesting that it

893
00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:45.519
<v Speaker 4>had its purpose in a free society. And by the way,

894
00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:48.920
<v Speaker 4>our founders thought that as well. They really believe that

895
00:49:48.960 --> 00:49:52.960
<v Speaker 4>you couldn't set people free without some civilizing factor. So

896
00:49:53.000 --> 00:49:55.000
<v Speaker 4>they were self governed. The way I once put it,

897
00:49:55.000 --> 00:49:58.679
<v Speaker 4>there are two constitutions that govern this country. There's one

898
00:49:58.679 --> 00:50:02.480
<v Speaker 4>in Washington Old part Arch under some glass, and the

899
00:50:02.480 --> 00:50:06.079
<v Speaker 4>others on your heart. Your heart, and you can be

900
00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:09.679
<v Speaker 4>free so long as you self governed responsibily. But if

901
00:50:09.719 --> 00:50:15.639
<v Speaker 4>you don't self governed responsibly, chaos, anarchy, violence, bitterness, hatred,

902
00:50:16.039 --> 00:50:19.400
<v Speaker 4>and ultimately perhaps the disunion of this country could occur.

903
00:50:20.519 --> 00:50:23.639
<v Speaker 4>That's what we're missing, Amen, And it shouldn't be pushed

904
00:50:23.639 --> 00:50:29.960
<v Speaker 4>by force, no persuasion, persuasion, but people should understand that

905
00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:33.199
<v Speaker 4>this current path we're on, I don't think is sustainable.

906
00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:38.559
<v Speaker 2>Chris, before I switch gears, you know you've seen with

907
00:50:38.679 --> 00:50:43.280
<v Speaker 2>Jimmy Kimball's suspension, Stephen Colbert being announced that they're not

908
00:50:43.400 --> 00:50:46.440
<v Speaker 2>renewing his show, the left has tried to turn these

909
00:50:46.480 --> 00:50:50.360
<v Speaker 2>two rich liberal elitists into martyrs. I mean, you see

910
00:50:50.400 --> 00:50:53.000
<v Speaker 2>it time and time again, where they just they think

911
00:50:53.039 --> 00:50:56.559
<v Speaker 2>that these guys are going to be a moment that's

912
00:50:56.559 --> 00:51:00.159
<v Speaker 2>going to elevate them. Were first off, Stephen Colbert was

913
00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:03.679
<v Speaker 2>costing his network outrageous amounts of money and they weren't

914
00:51:03.679 --> 00:51:08.039
<v Speaker 2>getting enough return. Jimmy Kimball wasn't. He wasn't a ratings

915
00:51:08.119 --> 00:51:11.239
<v Speaker 2>johnt either, and they didn't They hadn't fired him as

916
00:51:11.280 --> 00:51:15.639
<v Speaker 2>of yet. The term is he suspended indefinitely, probably going

917
00:51:15.719 --> 00:51:18.559
<v Speaker 2>to get fired, but that hadn't happened yet. What do

918
00:51:18.599 --> 00:51:21.000
<v Speaker 2>you make of them trying to make folks like this,

919
00:51:21.199 --> 00:51:24.639
<v Speaker 2>elitists that don't really connect with common people, into their martyrs.

920
00:51:24.840 --> 00:51:27.519
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't. I've never liked the concept of martyrs,

921
00:51:27.599 --> 00:51:32.400
<v Speaker 4>especially like that. I mean, Charlie Kirk lost his life,

922
00:51:32.719 --> 00:51:35.880
<v Speaker 4>they lost a talk show. I mean, give me a break.

923
00:51:35.920 --> 00:51:37.559
<v Speaker 4>We have to have a proper definition of what it

924
00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:40.000
<v Speaker 4>means to be a martyr in this world. Charlie Kirk

925
00:51:40.079 --> 00:51:43.079
<v Speaker 4>fits that very well. Losing a job because you can't

926
00:51:43.400 --> 00:51:47.039
<v Speaker 4>be diverse in your comedy doesn't quite fit that criteria. Now,

927
00:51:47.199 --> 00:51:49.360
<v Speaker 4>I don't know how far the FCC got involved in

928
00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:51.440
<v Speaker 4>those regulations or how much they pushed I don't know.

929
00:51:51.480 --> 00:51:55.280
<v Speaker 4>If the FCC calls that, we should probably be a

930
00:51:55.280 --> 00:51:57.400
<v Speaker 4>little bit curious about why that happened.

931
00:51:57.760 --> 00:51:58.519
<v Speaker 2>I would be offended.

932
00:51:58.559 --> 00:52:01.960
<v Speaker 4>Government agency concerned us greatly. But if it was a

933
00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:04.760
<v Speaker 4>private decision made by the network because of failing ratings,

934
00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:06.800
<v Speaker 4>good riddance, and I tell you how to make the

935
00:52:06.880 --> 00:52:09.360
<v Speaker 4>ratings better. Do you want to hear this called Jimmy

936
00:52:09.800 --> 00:52:13.639
<v Speaker 4>what's his name? Almost said? Jim said Jimmy Carter. Jimmy

937
00:52:13.679 --> 00:52:16.800
<v Speaker 4>Carter never told joke. Johnny Carson told a lot of jokes,

938
00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:19.800
<v Speaker 4>and he was always very consistent to hit both sides.

939
00:52:20.400 --> 00:52:23.360
<v Speaker 4>I like comedians, and I always have that like to

940
00:52:23.400 --> 00:52:28.119
<v Speaker 4>make fun of both sides. These cats, it was as

941
00:52:28.119 --> 00:52:31.119
<v Speaker 4>one sided as it gets. Absolutely all the guests were liberal.

942
00:52:31.199 --> 00:52:34.079
<v Speaker 4>All the jokes were AROUNDTI conservative. If you mix it

943
00:52:34.159 --> 00:52:36.760
<v Speaker 4>up some I think there's a path there for your success,

944
00:52:36.920 --> 00:52:39.920
<v Speaker 4>even if it hurts our feelings. Sometimes, Dave Chappelle, I

945
00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:42.840
<v Speaker 4>think Dave Chappelle, now his language is tricky. Sometimes I

946
00:52:42.840 --> 00:52:44.880
<v Speaker 4>think Dave Chappelle's one of the funniest human beings I've

947
00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:47.800
<v Speaker 4>ever heard. There's a reason for that. Nobody's safe and

948
00:52:48.199 --> 00:52:51.119
<v Speaker 4>that's the beauty of America in free speech, right, because

949
00:52:51.119 --> 00:52:54.760
<v Speaker 4>when he stands up there and he's on the stage, white, black,

950
00:52:55.239 --> 00:53:00.360
<v Speaker 4>Asian conservative liberal, you're about to get something to hit

951
00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:02.880
<v Speaker 4>you somehow. That makes it brilliant.

952
00:53:03.000 --> 00:53:03.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

953
00:53:03.360 --> 00:53:05.440
<v Speaker 4>Now it may be for a moment a bit was

954
00:53:05.480 --> 00:53:07.800
<v Speaker 4>he saying that about me? But then you're laughing so

955
00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:11.039
<v Speaker 4>hard you lose track of the seriousness of the charge

956
00:53:11.039 --> 00:53:14.199
<v Speaker 4>because you recognize, guess what, it's just comedy. But these

957
00:53:14.199 --> 00:53:19.119
<v Speaker 4>guys weren't just comedians. They were pushing one wedge, one group,

958
00:53:19.360 --> 00:53:22.440
<v Speaker 4>one ideology, and I think that's probably what those ratings feel,

959
00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:24.880
<v Speaker 4>which makes sense. I never watched it because I didn't

960
00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:26.599
<v Speaker 4>see it as funny as to keep getting beat up

961
00:53:26.639 --> 00:53:30.199
<v Speaker 4>every second and not to share some of the comedy

962
00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:32.199
<v Speaker 4>to the other groups, or whatever the case may be.

963
00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:34.679
<v Speaker 2>I think you're a hundred percent right. And I saw

964
00:53:34.719 --> 00:53:38.079
<v Speaker 2>a clip just the other day of Johnny Carson talking

965
00:53:38.119 --> 00:53:43.119
<v Speaker 2>about why his shows needed to stay more apolitical, and

966
00:53:43.159 --> 00:53:45.960
<v Speaker 2>it's something that the current talk show hosts and whoever

967
00:53:46.519 --> 00:53:49.840
<v Speaker 2>follows in the path of Stephen Colbert or Jimmy Kimball,

968
00:53:49.880 --> 00:53:52.480
<v Speaker 2>they need to hear that and they need to adhere

969
00:53:52.559 --> 00:53:55.039
<v Speaker 2>to it because their jobs to entertain, and they haven't

970
00:53:55.039 --> 00:53:59.159
<v Speaker 2>been entertaining. And well, Chris, we're getting close to the

971
00:53:59.199 --> 00:54:01.440
<v Speaker 2>n about ten minutes away from the end of this one,

972
00:54:02.079 --> 00:54:03.920
<v Speaker 2>and I have to I have to go to another

973
00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:06.519
<v Speaker 2>topic here because I think folks will be made. You

974
00:54:06.599 --> 00:54:09.239
<v Speaker 2>gave me the interview, so I have to. I have

975
00:54:09.360 --> 00:54:11.559
<v Speaker 2>to ask you about a couple of things. You recently

976
00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:15.360
<v Speaker 2>had a speaking engagement on the coast. First, it was

977
00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:19.400
<v Speaker 2>publicized as your return to politics, which amused me as

978
00:54:19.440 --> 00:54:22.519
<v Speaker 2>the guy who sits cross from you every week talking politics,

979
00:54:22.519 --> 00:54:26.320
<v Speaker 2>so I don't think you've ever left politics. But it

980
00:54:27.039 --> 00:54:31.719
<v Speaker 2>also sparked some chatter of your future Chris, and I

981
00:54:31.719 --> 00:54:36.039
<v Speaker 2>don't expect you to announce anything now. It'd be awesome

982
00:54:36.039 --> 00:54:39.119
<v Speaker 2>if you did, but I don't expect you to announce anything.

983
00:54:39.559 --> 00:54:42.320
<v Speaker 2>But but what are you thinking, I mean, especially in

984
00:54:42.360 --> 00:54:44.480
<v Speaker 2>this climate, what are you thinking future wise?

985
00:54:44.639 --> 00:54:47.320
<v Speaker 4>I think I think there was a story that can

986
00:54:47.400 --> 00:54:49.000
<v Speaker 4>I can tell you about that happened that night. I

987
00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:53.599
<v Speaker 4>think probably ended my political career. I had, you know, clearly,

988
00:54:53.840 --> 00:54:55.599
<v Speaker 4>I thought this show did that well. This show is

989
00:54:55.679 --> 00:54:58.880
<v Speaker 4>surely all these shows have their own unique nails to

990
00:54:59.000 --> 00:55:01.519
<v Speaker 4>the exact plitical cough and if you don't think, just wait.

991
00:55:01.639 --> 00:55:05.559
<v Speaker 4>It's it was funny that night because I make it

992
00:55:05.599 --> 00:55:08.320
<v Speaker 4>down to the coast, and you know here, lately, I've

993
00:55:08.320 --> 00:55:12.320
<v Speaker 4>been so busy at work that I have neglected to

994
00:55:12.360 --> 00:55:15.480
<v Speaker 4>get haircuts and I have neglected to shave. As you

995
00:55:15.519 --> 00:55:18.840
<v Speaker 4>can tell, this is not exactly my most trustworthy I'm

996
00:55:18.840 --> 00:55:22.000
<v Speaker 4>a pirate now. It's not my exactly much trustworthy look.

997
00:55:22.519 --> 00:55:25.119
<v Speaker 4>And it's just because I'm so busy and between the

998
00:55:25.119 --> 00:55:28.199
<v Speaker 4>boys in baseball and work, it's just not much time

999
00:55:28.280 --> 00:55:30.800
<v Speaker 4>to solve my own issues. Does that make sense?

1000
00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:31.159
<v Speaker 2>It does.

1001
00:55:31.280 --> 00:55:34.079
<v Speaker 4>I'm solving everybody else's problems, but my simple issues like

1002
00:55:34.079 --> 00:55:36.559
<v Speaker 4>my haircut, I had not solved. So here i am

1003
00:55:36.559 --> 00:55:39.480
<v Speaker 4>gonna get to the coast, and I've got this Irish afro.

1004
00:55:40.719 --> 00:55:43.639
<v Speaker 4>If you're Irish, you know what I'm talking about, right.

1005
00:55:44.280 --> 00:55:46.800
<v Speaker 4>And I didn't think it was that bad. I really didn't.

1006
00:55:46.800 --> 00:55:49.719
<v Speaker 4>I thought I could control it. Of course, I'm a man.

1007
00:55:49.760 --> 00:55:52.000
<v Speaker 4>I don't put products in my hair. I was gonna

1008
00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:53.840
<v Speaker 4>control it the old fashioned way. I was gonna get

1009
00:55:53.880 --> 00:55:55.719
<v Speaker 4>it wet, and I was going to calm it as

1010
00:55:55.719 --> 00:55:59.440
<v Speaker 4>best as I could. Probably should have used the products.

1011
00:56:00.039 --> 00:56:01.639
<v Speaker 4>So here's what happened. I get out of the car

1012
00:56:01.760 --> 00:56:08.960
<v Speaker 4>and there's a thunderstorm hits and I look like a madman, disheveled.

1013
00:56:09.119 --> 00:56:10.760
<v Speaker 4>Have you seen back in the eighties It was a

1014
00:56:10.760 --> 00:56:13.639
<v Speaker 4>band called Flock of Seagulls and the guy's hair was all, yes,

1015
00:56:14.199 --> 00:56:16.840
<v Speaker 4>that's what my hair looked like like I had lost

1016
00:56:16.840 --> 00:56:20.960
<v Speaker 4>complete control of sanity. And I know the establishment GP

1017
00:56:21.199 --> 00:56:22.519
<v Speaker 4>was like, see, we told you he was going to

1018
00:56:22.599 --> 00:56:25.800
<v Speaker 4>crack up. Look at his hair, just look at him.

1019
00:56:25.880 --> 00:56:27.559
<v Speaker 4>And the Democrats were like, of course, this is who

1020
00:56:27.599 --> 00:56:29.440
<v Speaker 4>he is. He's a madman. So I go in there

1021
00:56:29.480 --> 00:56:32.000
<v Speaker 4>and I'm thinking, it's not going to be that bad, dude.

1022
00:56:32.039 --> 00:56:35.159
<v Speaker 4>I saw the pictures after I left, and I felt

1023
00:56:35.199 --> 00:56:38.039
<v Speaker 4>like calling people and say, please take that off of Facebook.

1024
00:56:38.480 --> 00:56:40.840
<v Speaker 2>It was so I've seen the pictures.

1025
00:56:42.119 --> 00:56:44.960
<v Speaker 4>I can cut aside myself check you can't criticize me, okay,

1026
00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:47.719
<v Speaker 4>But it was that it was really that bad, and

1027
00:56:47.760 --> 00:56:49.480
<v Speaker 4>I thought, you know what, I forget it. I can't

1028
00:56:49.519 --> 00:56:51.679
<v Speaker 4>run like this. So here's what I'm gonna do before

1029
00:56:51.679 --> 00:56:53.719
<v Speaker 4>I speak again. I'm gonna get a haircut, and I

1030
00:56:53.920 --> 00:56:55.519
<v Speaker 4>might I might even shave.

1031
00:56:56.119 --> 00:56:57.400
<v Speaker 2>But don't go crazy now.

1032
00:56:57.400 --> 00:56:59.559
<v Speaker 4>But long story short, to answer your question, that I've

1033
00:56:59.559 --> 00:57:02.480
<v Speaker 4>tried to die. I don't know what I'm gonna do.

1034
00:57:02.960 --> 00:57:08.400
<v Speaker 4>I think that I like the debate. I like the fight.

1035
00:57:09.119 --> 00:57:12.280
<v Speaker 4>I like being a part of however we shape the

1036
00:57:12.320 --> 00:57:15.480
<v Speaker 4>conservative movement because I believe strongly in these ideas. I'm

1037
00:57:15.559 --> 00:57:17.440
<v Speaker 4>not just saying this for the first time. You've known

1038
00:57:17.440 --> 00:57:19.480
<v Speaker 4>me for twenty years. Yeah, how long have I been

1039
00:57:19.519 --> 00:57:20.800
<v Speaker 4>saying these same things.

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00:57:20.639 --> 00:57:22.840
<v Speaker 2>Since the first time I met you all? Honesty, sitting

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00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:25.920
<v Speaker 2>on the steps outside of the pe building at jac

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<v Speaker 2>Jacy Jac.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the way I've seen the world of my

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00:57:28.639 --> 00:57:31.159
<v Speaker 4>entire life. And some people say, well, he does this

1045
00:57:31.280 --> 00:57:33.519
<v Speaker 4>or he does that. I've never meant to hurt anybody.

1046
00:57:33.599 --> 00:57:36.800
<v Speaker 4>I just always believe strongly in these belief systems, and

1047
00:57:36.840 --> 00:57:39.920
<v Speaker 4>I've always wanted to share them. I've been successful in

1048
00:57:39.960 --> 00:57:43.480
<v Speaker 4>some respects, I've not been successful in other respects. But

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00:57:43.599 --> 00:57:45.400
<v Speaker 4>the way I look at it is, if the opportunity

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00:57:45.519 --> 00:57:48.920
<v Speaker 4>presents itself at some point in the future, yeah, I'll

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00:57:48.920 --> 00:57:52.239
<v Speaker 4>get re engaged. Now. Have I decided what that is yet? No?

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00:57:52.639 --> 00:57:55.559
<v Speaker 4>And number two? Right now, believe it or not, I'm

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00:57:55.599 --> 00:57:57.719
<v Speaker 4>probably happier than I've been in a long long time.

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00:57:57.840 --> 00:57:58.760
<v Speaker 2>I believe it.

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00:57:58.599 --> 00:58:02.119
<v Speaker 4>Because I'm practicing law again, and I've got great law partners,

1056
00:58:02.119 --> 00:58:04.360
<v Speaker 4>and I've got some really big cases all over the country,

1057
00:58:04.599 --> 00:58:06.840
<v Speaker 4>and it keeps me busy. And I'm able to watch

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00:58:06.840 --> 00:58:08.880
<v Speaker 4>my sons play baseball. You know, Cambridge is playing at

1059
00:58:08.920 --> 00:58:12.039
<v Speaker 4>Meridia now and Chamberlain's playing at South Choines Junior High,

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00:58:12.360 --> 00:58:14.760
<v Speaker 4>and I'm able to be involved in their lives more

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00:58:14.800 --> 00:58:19.800
<v Speaker 4>so than I was always traveling around in politics. So ultimately,

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00:58:20.280 --> 00:58:23.400
<v Speaker 4>at this stage, I'm pretty pretty pumped and pretty happy

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00:58:23.760 --> 00:58:26.480
<v Speaker 4>to be where I am. If the future changes, we'll

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00:58:26.480 --> 00:58:29.000
<v Speaker 4>see about that. But I have no idea to answer

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00:58:29.039 --> 00:58:31.400
<v Speaker 4>your question. But I can promise you this. I will

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00:58:31.440 --> 00:58:34.239
<v Speaker 4>not do anything in politics again until I cut my hair.

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00:58:35.199 --> 00:58:36.800
<v Speaker 2>That's that's that's definitely.

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00:58:37.039 --> 00:58:39.280
<v Speaker 4>That's really for the people. That's not for me. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>doing that for you all.

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00:58:40.559 --> 00:58:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Look, that's why you're wearing a hat, right.

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00:58:41.920 --> 00:58:45.119
<v Speaker 4>I do have a speech coming up. I don't know

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00:58:45.159 --> 00:58:46.880
<v Speaker 4>the exact time or the details yet, but it's going

1073
00:58:46.920 --> 00:58:49.719
<v Speaker 4>to be a vigil for Charlie Kirk at USM. They're

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00:58:49.760 --> 00:58:53.000
<v Speaker 4>turning point chapter, so at some point that would be arranged.

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00:58:53.000 --> 00:58:54.719
<v Speaker 4>I want to say it September the thirtieth, but I

1076
00:58:54.719 --> 00:58:56.679
<v Speaker 4>don't know all the details yet, but I'll let you

1077
00:58:56.719 --> 00:58:59.719
<v Speaker 4>know how that goes, hopefully time permitted. I'm in state

1078
00:58:59.760 --> 00:59:00.719
<v Speaker 4>and and it works.

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00:59:00.519 --> 00:59:02.280
<v Speaker 2>Out right now. It'd be great if I could attend

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00:59:02.320 --> 00:59:05.880
<v Speaker 2>that one too, because it'd be great. Two more questions

1081
00:59:05.920 --> 00:59:08.119
<v Speaker 2>before we wrap up, and I'm going to combine them

1082
00:59:08.119 --> 00:59:10.960
<v Speaker 2>together because I know we're coming up on it. Of course,

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00:59:11.000 --> 00:59:13.280
<v Speaker 2>Cambridge filled in for you one of the times when

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00:59:13.280 --> 00:59:17.000
<v Speaker 2>you were off working. He's a freshman at college this year,

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00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:20.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, so you know, first off, how proud of

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00:59:20.440 --> 00:59:23.000
<v Speaker 2>you of him were you when you saw him fill

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00:59:23.000 --> 00:59:26.000
<v Speaker 2>in for you that day? But second, knowing that he's

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00:59:26.079 --> 00:59:30.679
<v Speaker 2>now off at college, what concerns do you have knowing

1089
00:59:30.840 --> 00:59:35.719
<v Speaker 2>that college is disindoctrination crowd. It might not be as

1090
00:59:35.760 --> 00:59:39.239
<v Speaker 2>bad in Mississippi, but it still exists in Mississippi. How

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00:59:39.280 --> 00:59:41.519
<v Speaker 2>concerned are you you know that somebody's going to try

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00:59:41.519 --> 00:59:42.639
<v Speaker 2>to get their meat hooks in them.

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00:59:42.679 --> 00:59:45.320
<v Speaker 4>There's always some concern because you know, kids that go

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00:59:45.360 --> 00:59:48.440
<v Speaker 4>to school, they respect their professors and all the lot,

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00:59:49.119 --> 00:59:52.239
<v Speaker 4>and some of the professors use that respect to gain

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00:59:52.280 --> 00:59:55.280
<v Speaker 4>trust and then to impart these what I consider to

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00:59:55.320 --> 00:59:58.480
<v Speaker 4>be negative values into these children. But I also know

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00:59:58.559 --> 01:00:02.119
<v Speaker 4>my son is grounded. I don't believe there's any professor

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01:00:02.159 --> 01:00:05.920
<v Speaker 4>in the world that can alter that eighteen years of

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01:00:06.039 --> 01:00:09.320
<v Speaker 4>solid conservative thought that he's been a part of. If

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01:00:09.360 --> 01:00:12.480
<v Speaker 4>they can, more power to them, they must be amazing.

1102
01:00:12.880 --> 01:00:15.440
<v Speaker 4>But my son's amazing, and I think he's so amazing

1103
01:00:15.480 --> 01:00:17.320
<v Speaker 4>that he can resist most of that. Now, Granddad, listen,

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01:00:17.360 --> 01:00:20.519
<v Speaker 4>I don't mind his ideas being tested. I don't mind

1105
01:00:20.559 --> 01:00:23.440
<v Speaker 4>at all. They'll introduced and new components and ideas to him.

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01:00:23.840 --> 01:00:27.719
<v Speaker 4>Just don't brainwash him. Don't punish him for his conservative thoughts.

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01:00:28.079 --> 01:00:31.239
<v Speaker 4>Let it be a marketplace of ideas. And when I

1108
01:00:31.239 --> 01:00:34.320
<v Speaker 4>say that, if you're a math teacher, shut up about politics.

1109
01:00:34.639 --> 01:00:37.280
<v Speaker 4>If you're teaching biology, shut up about politics. Now. If

1110
01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:40.840
<v Speaker 4>you're teaching politics, one O one by all means engage.

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01:00:41.079 --> 01:00:43.920
<v Speaker 4>If you're teaching sociology or something, by all means engage,

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01:00:44.039 --> 01:00:45.199
<v Speaker 4>but stay in your lane.

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01:00:45.239 --> 01:00:47.159
<v Speaker 2>But be okay with differences.

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01:00:46.679 --> 01:00:49.079
<v Speaker 4>Of a Senilely we're supposed to be happy with differences

1115
01:00:49.079 --> 01:00:51.880
<v Speaker 4>of opinion. And what happens is we have these kids

1116
01:00:51.880 --> 01:00:53.199
<v Speaker 4>that go to school and they feel like they have

1117
01:00:53.280 --> 01:00:56.199
<v Speaker 4>to conform. We shouldn't want to teach people to conform.

1118
01:00:56.440 --> 01:00:59.000
<v Speaker 4>We should teach people to challenge ideas and to be strong.

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01:00:59.360 --> 01:01:01.880
<v Speaker 4>And if my something changes his mind and he's not

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01:01:01.920 --> 01:01:04.559
<v Speaker 4>a conservative, I'm still gonna love it. It's just gonna

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01:01:04.559 --> 01:01:05.719
<v Speaker 4>make thanks given really tough.

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01:01:05.920 --> 01:01:08.480
<v Speaker 2>It will, but I'm still gonna love it. Well, how

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01:01:08.480 --> 01:01:10.760
<v Speaker 2>proud of him were you? Because I asked you that

1124
01:01:11.119 --> 01:01:14.360
<v Speaker 2>it was well incredible. He did a great job in here.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's honestly, dads should not say this about their

1126
01:01:18.519 --> 01:01:22.480
<v Speaker 4>kids because it's just dad's you know, being dads. But

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01:01:22.559 --> 01:01:24.320
<v Speaker 4>he's such a good boy and he's got such a

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01:01:24.320 --> 01:01:26.679
<v Speaker 4>big heart for people. You know, he's the kind of

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01:01:26.719 --> 01:01:29.440
<v Speaker 4>person I would want all people to be only because

1130
01:01:30.119 --> 01:01:34.039
<v Speaker 4>he doesn't think evils are mean or evil. He thinks

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01:01:34.039 --> 01:01:36.960
<v Speaker 4>to people and I promise you, if one comes up

1132
01:01:37.000 --> 01:01:39.920
<v Speaker 4>to him, he'll hug them and they'll have a discussion

1133
01:01:40.239 --> 01:01:42.079
<v Speaker 4>and he'll smile and he'll say I just disagree, and

1134
01:01:42.119 --> 01:01:45.159
<v Speaker 4>he'll still love them. There's something really special about that

1135
01:01:45.159 --> 01:01:48.079
<v Speaker 4>type of diversity and thought that he has, But more importantly,

1136
01:01:48.119 --> 01:01:50.519
<v Speaker 4>that open heart that he has. I've never seen a

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01:01:50.599 --> 01:01:55.800
<v Speaker 4>kid more adaptable and more open than he is.

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<v Speaker 3>You.

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01:01:56.840 --> 01:01:59.800
<v Speaker 4>As a kid, a stranger would come up, he would

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01:01:59.800 --> 01:02:01.800
<v Speaker 4>walk call with a stranger to go do something which

1141
01:02:01.840 --> 01:02:05.280
<v Speaker 4>is dangerous, but he likes people that much and he

1142
01:02:05.320 --> 01:02:08.920
<v Speaker 4>sees everybody the way C. S. Lewis taught us to

1143
01:02:08.960 --> 01:02:12.360
<v Speaker 4>see people. And he said, the reason I love people

1144
01:02:12.519 --> 01:02:15.760
<v Speaker 4>is because when I meet them, I'm not meeting a person.

1145
01:02:16.519 --> 01:02:19.320
<v Speaker 4>I'm meeting a soul, and that soul is eternal and

1146
01:02:19.360 --> 01:02:22.360
<v Speaker 4>I'll see them again one day. That's an important component

1147
01:02:22.400 --> 01:02:25.199
<v Speaker 4>because he always sees the best in people, and that's

1148
01:02:25.239 --> 01:02:28.559
<v Speaker 4>part of that understanding that we're only here temporarily. This

1149
01:02:28.679 --> 01:02:31.480
<v Speaker 4>is just a vessel and there's much more to this world,

1150
01:02:32.480 --> 01:02:35.840
<v Speaker 4>this time and space. Right. So, yeah, good boy. I'm

1151
01:02:35.840 --> 01:02:37.360
<v Speaker 4>so proud of him. I don't know what he's going

1152
01:02:37.519 --> 01:02:40.960
<v Speaker 4>to do, but whatever he does, I'll always love him.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Chris, it's been fun to sit down and talk

1154
01:02:44.280 --> 01:02:47.719
<v Speaker 2>with you about these types. I had several more questions

1155
01:02:47.719 --> 01:02:51.000
<v Speaker 2>because I didn't even get to ask you about Gavin

1156
01:02:51.039 --> 01:02:54.079
<v Speaker 2>Newsom's dangerous new law he signed. Yeah, I didn't get

1157
01:02:54.119 --> 01:02:57.639
<v Speaker 2>the chance to talk to you about the battle that

1158
01:02:57.679 --> 01:03:01.440
<v Speaker 2>we see to suppress the Epstein life. So much more

1159
01:03:01.480 --> 01:03:03.199
<v Speaker 2>stuff I wanted to get to. We're gonna have to

1160
01:03:03.239 --> 01:03:07.360
<v Speaker 2>do interviews, maybe sprinkle in shows like this a little

1161
01:03:07.360 --> 01:03:07.840
<v Speaker 2>more often.

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01:03:07.960 --> 01:03:09.920
<v Speaker 4>Let's do it. This sounds good. You did a great job,

1163
01:03:10.599 --> 01:03:12.639
<v Speaker 4>and anytime you want to do this, I am open

1164
01:03:13.239 --> 01:03:15.679
<v Speaker 4>to it. Guys, again, this has been a good show.

1165
01:03:15.679 --> 01:03:17.800
<v Speaker 4>I appreciate you being here. I think it's time to

1166
01:03:17.840 --> 01:03:20.920
<v Speaker 4>sign off. This has been Chris mcdale's America here on

1167
01:03:20.960 --> 01:03:23.639
<v Speaker 4>the Midnight Ride Network. You're home of the anti establishment

1168
01:03:23.679 --> 01:03:26.360
<v Speaker 4>movement in this country. We'll see you soon. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Looks like you've been sleeping well, Megan.

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<v Speaker 5>He's back to my pillow guy, and you're looking.

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01:03:37.039 --> 01:03:38.800
<v Speaker 4>Good, still feeling good.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, just when you thought it couldn't get any better,

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<v Speaker 5>we've got the best pillow ever, my pillow two point zero.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow. It's so soft and smooth, it's cool to the touch.

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01:03:51.880 --> 01:03:52.719
<v Speaker 2>How did you do that?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, we took my pillows patented bill and combine it

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<v Speaker 5>with this new technology that we didn't have back then

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<v Speaker 5>when ivent in my pillow to bring you the best

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<v Speaker 5>pillow in history, my pillow two point zher. Just like

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01:04:07.159 --> 01:04:09.760
<v Speaker 5>all of you, I never imagine that my pillow could

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01:04:09.760 --> 01:04:12.199
<v Speaker 5>get any better. That's why I haven't changed it in

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01:04:12.280 --> 01:04:15.639
<v Speaker 5>nearly twenty years. Then I heard about a revolutionary new

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01:04:15.719 --> 01:04:18.119
<v Speaker 5>technology and I knew I had to bring it to

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<v Speaker 5>you all. My pillow two point zero is truly the

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<v Speaker 5>next generation of my pillow.

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01:04:23.559 --> 01:04:26.320
<v Speaker 3>My pillow two point zero is cooler and softer than

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01:04:26.360 --> 01:04:30.280
<v Speaker 3>the last my pillow. It is so comfortable to sleep

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<v Speaker 3>on at night. I look forward to going to bed

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01:04:32.840 --> 01:04:34.599
<v Speaker 3>and I wake up well rested in the morning.

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<v Speaker 5>Sleep is all about temperature and height. My pillow two

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<v Speaker 5>point oh is patent and adjustable. Pill is going to

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<v Speaker 5>give you the exact individual support you need from your

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<v Speaker 5>head to your bed. And now here's where it gets

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01:04:51.159 --> 01:04:53.679
<v Speaker 5>where you get too hot, you toss and turn, you

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01:04:53.719 --> 01:04:56.199
<v Speaker 5>flip your pillow over to the cool side. Well, all

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<v Speaker 5>that's gone with my brand new my Pillow two point

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01:04:59.000 --> 01:05:02.760
<v Speaker 5>oh cooling fabric that's made with temperature regulating thread.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely breathe, you're sleeping.

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01:05:18.760 --> 01:05:23.199
<v Speaker 5>Even better and cooler too, and you're looking good feeling good.

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<v Speaker 4>I knew you would.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it my billo dot com,
