WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:03.839 One zero. 2 00:00:05.360 --> 00:02:39.520 Dire wave dire wave. 3 00:02:56.479 --> 00:03:01.319 The scientific method cannot justify the scientific method. Therefore itself 4 00:03:01.599 --> 00:03:02.919 is a dogmatical. 5 00:03:02.960 --> 00:04:23.079 Subsisten less sensensen assents. 6 00:04:24.040 --> 00:04:31.879 As its extent, it's. 7 00:04:46.800 --> 00:04:59.319 As listens, listens. 8 00:05:25.279 --> 00:05:26.879 M m m m. 9 00:05:28.720 --> 00:05:28.920 Hmm. 10 00:05:31.879 --> 00:05:36.199 Had a bunch of bad trips with Indians, had a 11 00:05:36.240 --> 00:05:46.040 bunch of desert drugs in my system, smoking a little 12 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:53.079 bit of that snake, smoking that rattlesnake tail, getting high from. 13 00:05:55.439 --> 00:05:59.399 Licking scalps. You know you could get high from licking scalps. 14 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:07.360 You will see into Mother Earth's cerebral cortex when you 15 00:06:07.480 --> 00:06:10.360 lick scalps like the Indians used to do. That's what 16 00:06:10.360 --> 00:06:14.000 we're gonna be talking about today when we get our 17 00:06:14.120 --> 00:06:21.920 boy Tristan Schristan, which is Quebecy for meat, if you 18 00:06:21.959 --> 00:06:26.480 didn't know, that's the Quebecy word for meat. And looks 19 00:06:26.519 --> 00:06:35.040 like he's coming, Tristan. We're waiting on our little boy, Tristan. 20 00:06:35.759 --> 00:06:36.160 What's up? 21 00:06:36.240 --> 00:06:36.720 Schristan? 22 00:06:48.319 --> 00:06:48.680 All right? 23 00:06:48.759 --> 00:06:49.879 Can you hear me now? Baby? 24 00:06:58.399 --> 00:06:58.800 You hear me? 25 00:06:59.160 --> 00:06:59.720 Yes? I can. 26 00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:03.160 Right, We've got to make sure the audience can hear 27 00:07:03.240 --> 00:07:06.000 us though, because I was talking about you saying that 28 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:08.560 your name means meat in French? 29 00:07:08.920 --> 00:07:09.439 Is that true? 30 00:07:10.160 --> 00:07:16.480 Christan It means like it means has a large slab 31 00:07:16.600 --> 00:07:23.920 of meat on his back, between between his legs. 32 00:07:24.120 --> 00:07:25.959 It's that's the actual. 33 00:07:26.839 --> 00:07:29.079 Between the nuts and the booty hoole, that little area 34 00:07:29.920 --> 00:07:30.480 that's where you have. 35 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:35.680 Okay, it's it's Tristan. Actually, it's a French name. It 36 00:07:35.800 --> 00:07:42.480 actually means superior to Jay Dyer. It's weird, like direct translated, 37 00:07:42.519 --> 00:07:43.639 that's exactly what it means. 38 00:07:43.680 --> 00:07:46.519 Okay, in the Quebecy right from the original Quebecy. 39 00:07:47.879 --> 00:07:52.519 Yes, Okay, what's up, dude. Thanks for coming on, man. 40 00:07:52.480 --> 00:07:54.639 Thanks for having me on, big Shot. I appreciate you 41 00:07:54.759 --> 00:07:55.759 talking as little people. 42 00:07:56.399 --> 00:07:59.079 And I'm still trying to figure out the hierarchy the 43 00:07:59.160 --> 00:08:04.120 totem pole. Given today's a lot of Indian stuff, the 44 00:08:04.240 --> 00:08:08.079 totem pole is a better image for today's because I 45 00:08:08.079 --> 00:08:09.680 don't know if I'm higher on the totem. 46 00:08:09.399 --> 00:08:11.560 Pole than you know, because L J. 47 00:08:11.759 --> 00:08:15.040 Dyer, in this totem pole, you actually want to be 48 00:08:15.199 --> 00:08:20.000 on the bottom, because if you will only use your imagination, 49 00:08:20.360 --> 00:08:24.360 you will realize that the totem pole is God, and 50 00:08:24.600 --> 00:08:28.879 God is everything, and you are also God. If you 51 00:08:29.240 --> 00:08:32.360 just listen to the machine l's and put the peep 52 00:08:32.559 --> 00:08:33.200 in the pooping. 53 00:08:34.000 --> 00:08:39.000 You know we're pure imagination. Can anybody I couldn't. 54 00:08:39.240 --> 00:08:41.279 Could y'all hear the first few minutes of me talking 55 00:08:41.320 --> 00:08:44.679 about talking about trustan or not? I couldn't tell if 56 00:08:44.720 --> 00:08:48.279 I had the sound messed up? Can y'all tell me? 57 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:51.279 I was talking smack talking about how you could get 58 00:08:51.360 --> 00:08:57.879 high from smoking Indian browndsnake rattlers can get high that way. 59 00:08:57.960 --> 00:09:00.799 You can get high from licking scalps. Indians used to 60 00:09:00.879 --> 00:09:01.080 do that. 61 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:04.120 You could see into the cerebral cortex of Mother Earth 62 00:09:04.639 --> 00:09:05.519 herself DAYA. 63 00:09:08.320 --> 00:09:10.879 We call it a third eye scrying, and you you 64 00:09:11.000 --> 00:09:14.080 basically yeah, I don't. I don't want to get into that. 65 00:09:14.159 --> 00:09:17.080 What that means on the on the dark web, third 66 00:09:17.120 --> 00:09:19.519 iy scrying? M hm mm hmmm. 67 00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:25.200 Uh did you know that that when the Indian was 68 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:30.200 they suspected that he was gay. They used to say that, uh, 69 00:09:30.600 --> 00:09:34.000 he was light in his No, I just screwed my 70 00:09:34.120 --> 00:09:37.480 joke up. What's the Indian word for slippers? What are 71 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:38.519 Indian slippers called? 72 00:09:39.080 --> 00:09:40.559 I thought it was they would just say like he 73 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:44.399 he was. I think they would name they would give 74 00:09:44.440 --> 00:09:45.559 him different names when. 75 00:09:45.440 --> 00:09:47.000 They they would be he would be. 76 00:09:49.080 --> 00:09:53.159 Walk walks with J would be sassy antelope, little little 77 00:09:53.279 --> 00:09:54.240 sassy antelope. 78 00:09:54.840 --> 00:09:58.759 Yeah, like like stands like J would be his name. 79 00:10:00.759 --> 00:10:04.799 Yes, meet on ass Like Tristan. 80 00:10:06.519 --> 00:10:08.480 You say, you say I got a nice some nice 81 00:10:08.519 --> 00:10:11.080 meaty butt cheeks like you like my meaty booty. 82 00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:13.600 I mean, that's what the that's what the Quebecy translation 83 00:10:13.720 --> 00:10:17.799 of your name means. That's all I'm saying, which is 84 00:10:17.879 --> 00:10:21.840 a different from the Quebec the normal French. 85 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:27.720 Anyway, So what we decided to do today was two 86 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:31.320 psychonaut movies. It has nothing really to do with Fourth 87 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:33.960 of July and America and all that. Tristan said, let's 88 00:10:33.960 --> 00:10:35.679 do a Fourth of July stream. I said, let's do 89 00:10:35.759 --> 00:10:40.960 a dystopia Psychonauts stream, which is not really dystopian, but 90 00:10:41.159 --> 00:10:41.639 that's okay. 91 00:10:42.120 --> 00:10:44.039 So we dide a nice mix, right, We got like 92 00:10:44.200 --> 00:10:46.519 you got kind of you got you have like in 93 00:10:46.679 --> 00:10:50.639 the inside the mind of a boomer, which is altered states. 94 00:10:50.679 --> 00:10:54.279 It's like the boomer you already you read my mind, dude. 95 00:10:54.600 --> 00:10:56.960 We did not our jokes because I have a bunch 96 00:10:57.000 --> 00:10:59.399 of boomer jokes in my houses. 97 00:10:59.440 --> 00:11:00.840 You already read my mind. 98 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:03.840 Right, I mean that's what that movie is, dude, altered State. 99 00:11:04.000 --> 00:11:07.960 It's like, I'm watching it. It just got art laughing 100 00:11:08.039 --> 00:11:09.039 out loud half the movie. 101 00:11:09.200 --> 00:11:11.919 I know, I was cracking up. Jamie and I watched 102 00:11:11.960 --> 00:11:14.639 it maybe two years ago, and I was I started 103 00:11:14.679 --> 00:11:16.279 falling asleep because I thought it was really stupid. I 104 00:11:16.320 --> 00:11:19.320 woke up at the end with that I'll save the 105 00:11:19.440 --> 00:11:21.240 ending for later because it's priceless. 106 00:11:21.320 --> 00:11:23.679 But I was cracking out when. 107 00:11:23.519 --> 00:11:25.200 I woke up out of my sleep and I was like, 108 00:11:25.279 --> 00:11:27.360 what is happening. I didn't know if I was still 109 00:11:27.440 --> 00:11:29.519 dreaming or if this was really the way the movie 110 00:11:29.639 --> 00:11:35.159 was ending. But and then let's start with this. Let's 111 00:11:35.159 --> 00:11:37.360 start with the one you recommended, which was it was 112 00:11:37.399 --> 00:11:40.000 pretty damn weird. I didn't like it at first, and 113 00:11:40.120 --> 00:11:43.080 then the more that I was progressing in the plot, 114 00:11:43.120 --> 00:11:44.480 I was I was getting a little more into it. 115 00:11:45.840 --> 00:11:48.200 It's called Blueberry or Renegade. 116 00:11:48.600 --> 00:11:51.720 It has two different titles, and it's a two thousand 117 00:11:51.720 --> 00:11:58.720 and four film by some foreign French Quebecy American Indian person. 118 00:12:00.200 --> 00:12:03.279 I don't know what his name is, but nerd. 119 00:12:03.480 --> 00:12:05.399 Yeah, and uh. 120 00:12:06.159 --> 00:12:12.279 It has Michael Mads and Juliette Lewis who actually looks 121 00:12:12.320 --> 00:12:13.480 like a normal person. 122 00:12:13.240 --> 00:12:15.600 In this you know most she's like almost likable. 123 00:12:15.759 --> 00:12:19.679 This yet the movie she looks like a sixteen year 124 00:12:19.720 --> 00:12:21.399 old lot lizard whore. 125 00:12:21.840 --> 00:12:23.279 But in this movie, but she does. 126 00:12:23.399 --> 00:12:26.320 She does like a spread eagle bush shot in the film, 127 00:12:26.360 --> 00:12:28.840 of course. So just so you know it's Juliet Lewis, 128 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:30.799 she had to show the Yoni so. 129 00:12:31.080 --> 00:12:36.600 We By the way, we got a couple of super 130 00:12:36.720 --> 00:12:41.320 chats from our friends over at the Fartifact podcast. Get it, 131 00:12:41.879 --> 00:12:45.639 it's called artifact, but I said FARTI fact just to 132 00:12:45.679 --> 00:12:48.840 piss off the people who don't like the bodily function jokes. 133 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:50.120 But there's another one for you. 134 00:12:50.279 --> 00:12:53.440 But shout out to her, everybody, go watch the Fartifact 135 00:12:53.759 --> 00:12:54.799 Artifact podcast. 136 00:12:55.639 --> 00:12:57.440 She's good at what she does and. 137 00:12:57.519 --> 00:12:58.039 We like her. 138 00:12:58.240 --> 00:13:00.960 Thank you for her support with those six dollars super ships. 139 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:03.600 By the way, there are still super chats everybody. Every 140 00:13:03.639 --> 00:13:06.159 time we do this, you gotta go to stream labs. 141 00:13:06.240 --> 00:13:08.720 So the stream labs link in the show description, or 142 00:13:08.799 --> 00:13:13.279 as are bro Okay often puts in the chat, just 143 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:16.279 step on over to that stream labs and you can 144 00:13:16.399 --> 00:13:19.600 ask these two see and. 145 00:13:19.919 --> 00:13:23.240 Well, I'm more like a B level eat C level. 146 00:13:23.799 --> 00:13:25.000 Tristan's like a D level. 147 00:13:25.919 --> 00:13:30.879 Plus I'm scrambling, I'm trying. I'm trying to crawl up 148 00:13:30.919 --> 00:13:32.840 at his legs. And you know, by if I can 149 00:13:32.919 --> 00:13:36.279 make Jay feel insecure enough, then I can feel like 150 00:13:36.399 --> 00:13:39.399 maybe my celeb status is elevated a little bit. 151 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:41.879 No, damn, who's higher on this tone pole? 152 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:45.080 I mean, you got the check mark from YouTube, right, 153 00:13:45.320 --> 00:13:51.039 But I was But I was eating oysters with Alex Jones. 154 00:13:50.759 --> 00:13:53.559 The other day, so yeah, well yeah, I mean, you 155 00:13:53.600 --> 00:13:55.399 don't know what I had to the things I had 156 00:13:55.440 --> 00:14:00.159 to do for that check mark. You actually, you probably don't. 157 00:14:00.440 --> 00:14:03.519 So technically, so you are a little bit above me 158 00:14:03.679 --> 00:14:05.120 on the meter. 159 00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:08.159 Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, that's all right. 160 00:14:08.200 --> 00:14:10.200 We'll just we'll start some drama and take you down 161 00:14:10.240 --> 00:14:15.159 this week. So okay, let's talk about Blueberry. Thank you 162 00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:23.399 for recommending this. It starts out with like my eagle sound. 163 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:28.879 It's like, isn't he is? It Like it's like a 164 00:14:28.919 --> 00:14:31.039 spinning camera shot of the dude laying on the ground 165 00:14:31.080 --> 00:14:31.879 and he's like, I'm dead. 166 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:36.039 Yes, he's appearing to be dead, and uh, I don't 167 00:14:36.039 --> 00:14:37.919 know how quick the eagle shows up, But that made 168 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:40.799 me think of America. I mean, there's yes America in 169 00:14:40.840 --> 00:14:42.440 America today with the Eagle sound. 170 00:14:43.039 --> 00:14:45.279 That's the most American shot in both of these movies. 171 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:51.440 And so Vincent Gallo is going to go on a 172 00:14:51.919 --> 00:14:53.240 mystical journey of sorts. 173 00:14:54.120 --> 00:14:58.360 Vincent, right, isn't it? Isn't it? Vincent? What did I say, Gallo? 174 00:14:59.720 --> 00:15:01.480 Vincent Cassel, Vince a Gallow, I don't know that. 175 00:15:02.399 --> 00:15:06.399 And it's not for the Chats booger whistle. It's Vincent. 176 00:15:08.720 --> 00:15:11.759 Although never mind, I get too dumb here. I was 177 00:15:11.799 --> 00:15:14.399 going to do an Eagles booger whistle, which would be 178 00:15:14.399 --> 00:15:16.720 even higher, but an Eagles book booger whistle would be 179 00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:18.519 so high pitched you couldn't hear it. It would make 180 00:15:18.559 --> 00:15:24.759 dogs bark. Alchemy the Gnostic Cross, Yeah, so the opening 181 00:15:24.799 --> 00:15:27.399 images you see this this weird book that's got like 182 00:15:27.519 --> 00:15:32.399 a Gnostic looking cross of Jesus of sorts, and we 183 00:15:32.519 --> 00:15:34.759 find out later that that's going to be a treasure map. 184 00:15:36.039 --> 00:15:39.279 So I kind of think what's going on is two 185 00:15:39.559 --> 00:15:42.279 layers of finding treasure here. So on the one level, 186 00:15:42.320 --> 00:15:44.480 we've got, oh, there's a golden statue somewhere. 187 00:15:45.320 --> 00:15:46.360 Michael Madsen, as. 188 00:15:46.320 --> 00:15:48.480 You said, is the evil sorcerer, but we've also got 189 00:15:48.559 --> 00:15:53.679 this initiatory journey that Vincent Cassel is going to go on, 190 00:15:54.600 --> 00:16:00.519 right that, so it's basically a magical journey slash battle 191 00:16:00.559 --> 00:16:03.159 that's gonna happen, and that's not Yeah, yeah, I didn't know, 192 00:16:03.399 --> 00:16:05.120 but it's kind of like, yeah, I didn't know what 193 00:16:05.200 --> 00:16:05.639 to expect. 194 00:16:06.240 --> 00:16:08.320 It's kind of like, yeah, it's a weird movie because 195 00:16:08.639 --> 00:16:10.600 you think it's just a normal Western when you see 196 00:16:10.600 --> 00:16:12.919 the first dots, like it just seems like, a Okay, 197 00:16:13.000 --> 00:16:15.799 it's just some weird, semi low budget Western from the 198 00:16:15.840 --> 00:16:18.320 early two thousands, but it actually it's more of kind 199 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:21.879 of like an alchemical journey through this guy's psyche to 200 00:16:22.080 --> 00:16:26.320 try and reconcile like busted up parts of his psyche. Right, so, 201 00:16:27.759 --> 00:16:29.720 I think it's It starts out soon after the intro 202 00:16:29.799 --> 00:16:32.000 where it shows that manuscript thing, and it's all these 203 00:16:32.039 --> 00:16:35.559 pictures of like little engine man and Paoti buttons and 204 00:16:35.679 --> 00:16:39.279 like you know, like trippy looking whatever. They they kind 205 00:16:39.279 --> 00:16:42.639 of made a mismatch of like Shapibo artwork and South 206 00:16:42.720 --> 00:16:47.759 American tribal artwork with Aztec stuff with Native American like, 207 00:16:47.759 --> 00:16:51.399 and they mix all of the esthetic together into one 208 00:16:51.639 --> 00:16:56.120 kind of like weird mumbo jumbo general esthetic of like animism, 209 00:16:56.279 --> 00:17:00.519 kind of like the animistic religion and shamanism exactly what 210 00:17:00.960 --> 00:17:03.559 I thought was interesting about the depiction of it as 211 00:17:03.600 --> 00:17:08.039 opposed to like the pure when you watch like Altered States, 212 00:17:08.039 --> 00:17:10.440 it's kind of coming from this John C. Lily psychonat 213 00:17:10.720 --> 00:17:15.200 Timothy Leary. We've got like a psychologist and an anthropologist, 214 00:17:15.319 --> 00:17:20.799 and it's coming from this Western scientific boomer mentality, whereas 215 00:17:20.880 --> 00:17:23.200 this one was more like a I don't know, kind 216 00:17:23.240 --> 00:17:29.000 of like a Western mysticism mixed with Eastern mysticism and 217 00:17:29.319 --> 00:17:35.519 animism altogether. And yeah, you mentioned like the dual thing 218 00:17:35.559 --> 00:17:37.799 about like the treasure hunt, right, So they're hunting for 219 00:17:37.880 --> 00:17:40.680 this gold and there's this German character what's that guy's name, 220 00:17:40.759 --> 00:17:43.559 Like the Prussians, I would bring new mountains of gold. 221 00:17:43.960 --> 00:17:45.720 We would go and we would get on the gold. 222 00:17:45.839 --> 00:17:48.839 So this guy's searching for like physical treasure. And then 223 00:17:49.079 --> 00:17:50.960 these other characters are looking for this sort of like 224 00:17:51.039 --> 00:17:54.559 spiritual power rather than physical treasure. 225 00:17:55.039 --> 00:17:57.279 The philosopher stoned dude. 226 00:17:57.680 --> 00:18:01.599 Because they have the stone philosophers owned yep. So he's 227 00:18:01.640 --> 00:18:03.759 laying there like basically you don't even find out because 228 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:07.240 it's kind of a I guess it's a circular timeline. 229 00:18:07.400 --> 00:18:08.440 It kind of loops around. 230 00:18:08.519 --> 00:18:11.240 Yeah, so it's like a beginning. The beginning of the 231 00:18:11.319 --> 00:18:14.000 movie is where the movie more or less ends. And 232 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:17.559 did you notice that right away when he's starting to see, 233 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:21.680 you know, the spiritual realm or whatever he's seeing, he's 234 00:18:21.920 --> 00:18:26.240 basically his life is flashing before him that he he 235 00:18:26.759 --> 00:18:29.319 sees the world like a matrix. Do you notice how 236 00:18:29.599 --> 00:18:30.839 matrix sye it looked. 237 00:18:30.640 --> 00:18:34.400 When he and then at the end, Yeah, there seem 238 00:18:34.440 --> 00:18:36.799 to be these like spiritual layers of and then the 239 00:18:36.880 --> 00:18:39.160 way that it visually portrays it, I thought it was. 240 00:18:39.440 --> 00:18:41.200 It's less hokey than a lot of these other kind 241 00:18:41.200 --> 00:18:43.680 of psycho Nott films, Like it's done in a more 242 00:18:44.480 --> 00:18:46.720 kind of It seems like it's a more contemplated film 243 00:18:46.759 --> 00:18:48.519 than a lot of these corny like I don't know, 244 00:18:48.680 --> 00:18:51.200 like it takes some masses and watch this, it's going 245 00:18:51.279 --> 00:18:55.640 to trip you out, man, Whereas like Altered States was 246 00:18:55.799 --> 00:18:57.599 I don't know what the hell happened there. We'll get 247 00:18:57.640 --> 00:18:57.920 into that. 248 00:18:58.480 --> 00:18:59.920 But yeah, that one is something else. 249 00:19:00.119 --> 00:19:02.480 But so he's the layers of that, But then there's 250 00:19:02.480 --> 00:19:04.519 also there's a lot of serpent imagery. 251 00:19:05.119 --> 00:19:07.279 Yeah, well she asks him at the beginning, Remember she says, 252 00:19:07.319 --> 00:19:08.039 do you believe in God? 253 00:19:08.920 --> 00:19:10.319 Right, Well, he goes to see his chick. 254 00:19:10.400 --> 00:19:12.920 He flashes back to the kid when he's the kid, 255 00:19:13.839 --> 00:19:17.119 and he goes to see his flucy. 256 00:19:17.359 --> 00:19:21.200 Or his so you have soy Vincent Cassel, so soy young, 257 00:19:21.359 --> 00:19:22.319 soy Vincent. 258 00:19:22.680 --> 00:19:27.039 Visiting the strumpet, the ladies of the evening, the flucy market. 259 00:19:27.599 --> 00:19:33.359 Every every every Western, every saloon has a lady's flucy 260 00:19:33.480 --> 00:19:34.039 market above. 261 00:19:34.079 --> 00:19:34.759 They noticed that. 262 00:19:35.440 --> 00:19:37.319 They're always banging, right, that's all. 263 00:19:37.759 --> 00:19:38.000 I guess. 264 00:19:38.000 --> 00:19:40.279 There's nothing else to do except what trip acid? 265 00:19:40.440 --> 00:19:43.319 Shoot people in the saloon, choose some tobacco, and go 266 00:19:43.480 --> 00:19:46.799 to the to the strumpet market above the saloon. 267 00:19:47.559 --> 00:19:49.880 That's right, that's right. So he goes there and then 268 00:19:50.240 --> 00:19:53.519 there's kind of a there's an altercation. Michael Madsen comes in. 269 00:19:53.839 --> 00:19:55.720 He's actually really good in that, like this is the 270 00:19:55.799 --> 00:19:58.880 perfect role for him. Is an evil cowboy like Michael 271 00:19:58.920 --> 00:20:01.200 Madson should be an evil outvoid in every film. That's 272 00:20:01.240 --> 00:20:02.960 just how I imagine he is in real life, like 273 00:20:03.079 --> 00:20:05.640 trying to dose you on acid and steal your soul. 274 00:20:06.960 --> 00:20:09.319 So he he comes in and kind of there's this 275 00:20:09.400 --> 00:20:12.599 threatening scene and some guns get pulled out and then 276 00:20:12.640 --> 00:20:15.319 the camera throws outside and then the guy falls out 277 00:20:15.359 --> 00:20:16.960 the window and you don't know what happened. You hear 278 00:20:17.039 --> 00:20:20.279 gunshots and the houses on fire, right, and then that's 279 00:20:20.319 --> 00:20:23.799 kind of like that's the intro traumatic event and you 280 00:20:23.880 --> 00:20:26.480 don't really know what happened in there. Kind of a 281 00:20:26.880 --> 00:20:30.160 I mean not the most like amazing plot piece. You 282 00:20:30.240 --> 00:20:32.440 can kind of put it together after that scene that okay, 283 00:20:32.559 --> 00:20:34.720 well you don't know what happened in there, so later 284 00:20:34.799 --> 00:20:38.160 on maybe he'll find out. But that throws him on 285 00:20:38.240 --> 00:20:40.200 this like what happened? He gets like picked up by 286 00:20:40.240 --> 00:20:43.240 the Indians, right, they throw him out in the desert. 287 00:20:43.359 --> 00:20:47.440 He goes full, uh you know, dances with wolves, right, 288 00:20:47.720 --> 00:20:49.799 full Kevin Costner dances with wolves. 289 00:20:49.640 --> 00:20:52.400 Ends up with the Engines, the dark Knight of the Soul. 290 00:20:54.279 --> 00:20:56.079 He's got his uh you know. So the Indians pick 291 00:20:56.160 --> 00:20:58.519 him up and then what they like he doesn't really. 292 00:20:58.680 --> 00:21:01.039 Well, he gets close bulls off the horse and he's 293 00:21:01.119 --> 00:21:03.640 kind of you know, brought in and they're like, all right, uh, 294 00:21:04.599 --> 00:21:06.680 what does every tribe do when they bring a white 295 00:21:06.720 --> 00:21:07.000 man in? 296 00:21:07.240 --> 00:21:07.480 Time? 297 00:21:07.559 --> 00:21:11.440 To give him that ayahuasca. Give him right away and 298 00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:13.880 he broke his back. Give him some d MT. 299 00:21:15.720 --> 00:21:17.400 So the Indians are just sitting around and they're so 300 00:21:17.559 --> 00:21:20.039 enlightened and they're just so connected to nature, and they're 301 00:21:20.079 --> 00:21:23.079 like the eagles come and they like they chump the 302 00:21:23.160 --> 00:21:27.359 Indians arms, and they're just they're so powerful and long hair. 303 00:21:27.559 --> 00:21:28.880 White man need us? 304 00:21:29.000 --> 00:21:31.920 Do white men need to do him to right so 305 00:21:32.000 --> 00:21:35.079 that they get him stoned out of his mind? 306 00:21:35.880 --> 00:21:37.559 The glove, the tobacco smoke on him. 307 00:21:37.640 --> 00:21:41.480 Yeah, and uh, but he every time he gets injured, right, 308 00:21:41.559 --> 00:21:42.960 doesn't he get don't they kind. 309 00:21:42.880 --> 00:21:46.400 Of smoke him out? They get him. They smoke him. 310 00:21:47.960 --> 00:21:50.279 Every time he gets injured. And and that's like he 311 00:21:50.400 --> 00:21:54.000 has to go through these stages, right, and then he's 312 00:21:54.119 --> 00:21:55.799 you know, he meets up with that dude that has 313 00:21:55.880 --> 00:21:58.559 a eagle spirit animal, remember that. 314 00:22:00.559 --> 00:22:02.480 Little bit his buddies like the son of the head 315 00:22:02.559 --> 00:22:05.079 shown in Guy. So they heal him, do they give 316 00:22:05.119 --> 00:22:06.960 him do they give him like a potion at that 317 00:22:07.079 --> 00:22:08.599 time or do they wait till later? I don't they 318 00:22:08.640 --> 00:22:09.119 wait till later. 319 00:22:09.200 --> 00:22:11.000 I was just I was just saying, he but but 320 00:22:11.119 --> 00:22:12.160 the other Indians. 321 00:22:11.799 --> 00:22:13.880 Are drinking the potion. It's like they're part of this 322 00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:16.200 club and they're part like they're they're getting in on 323 00:22:16.240 --> 00:22:18.279 the d n T. They're talking to the machinoes, you know, 324 00:22:18.359 --> 00:22:21.200 what's up. And so it's kind of I mean, it's 325 00:22:21.240 --> 00:22:24.680 kind of this like hokey view of animism and of 326 00:22:24.759 --> 00:22:29.000 shamanism and of folk medicine, and it's not really how 327 00:22:29.079 --> 00:22:30.480 it is. It's like that not all the all these 328 00:22:30.519 --> 00:22:31.359 indigenous trying. 329 00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:35.480 Because when you watch movies, you know, they always present 330 00:22:35.559 --> 00:22:42.039 it like there's nothing more spiritual and enlightened than primal, archaic, 331 00:22:42.519 --> 00:22:48.319 archaic revival, primitivist Indian spirituality. Like there's just this mystique 332 00:22:48.480 --> 00:22:52.200 that is kind of a pop culture creation. Whicheah, there's 333 00:22:52.240 --> 00:22:55.279 no real basis for because you live in an area 334 00:22:55.359 --> 00:22:58.119 where this is prevalent, and the boomers fly down there 335 00:22:58.200 --> 00:23:01.640 to go into their little you know, sex tents and 336 00:23:01.839 --> 00:23:05.599 get sweaty all weekend and they're basically just getting jypped 337 00:23:05.680 --> 00:23:08.400 by pseudoshaman, Right, can you touch on that? 338 00:23:08.480 --> 00:23:10.680 That's the thing is, it's like that doesn't really exist 339 00:23:10.759 --> 00:23:12.960 and it didn't really exist in the way that they 340 00:23:13.079 --> 00:23:16.720 portrayed in Hollywood. Right, they we have this everybody knows 341 00:23:16.720 --> 00:23:20.039 that Western culture is really screwed up, right, like big pharma. 342 00:23:21.599 --> 00:23:23.440 Everybody knows that the nature of big farm is to 343 00:23:23.480 --> 00:23:26.119 go take you know, natural plant compounds, find how they 344 00:23:26.160 --> 00:23:29.039 can be isolated, patent them, and use them to market 345 00:23:29.079 --> 00:23:33.160 as drugs, right, like you have fentanyl, you have you know, 346 00:23:33.240 --> 00:23:37.680 this huge opioid crisis all comes from the opium poppy, 347 00:23:37.920 --> 00:23:40.880 which is actually pretty difficult to get, like really badly 348 00:23:40.960 --> 00:23:43.680 addicted to pure opium poppy. It's a lot different, right, 349 00:23:43.680 --> 00:23:45.039 you know what I'm saying. So they've taken these things 350 00:23:45.079 --> 00:23:47.599 and they made them so addictive. So everybody knows about 351 00:23:47.599 --> 00:23:52.440 the bastardization of like nature, the natural, whatever you want 352 00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:54.640 to call it. I mean, your conception of what nature 353 00:23:54.839 --> 00:23:56.920 is is so screwed up. In the West, right, and 354 00:23:57.000 --> 00:23:58.559 you don't even have this they don't even have a 355 00:23:58.599 --> 00:24:01.440 concept of the fall in the West, right, But yet 356 00:24:01.720 --> 00:24:06.799 they somehow have this unspoken belief that Western civilization is fallen. 357 00:24:07.279 --> 00:24:12.599 Yet what's not fallen is animistic religions, shamanism and the 358 00:24:12.720 --> 00:24:17.279 noble savage myth. Right, Like this thing of it's like 359 00:24:17.359 --> 00:24:19.359 the opposite, the opposite side of the coin of the 360 00:24:19.599 --> 00:24:22.119 take up the white man's burden of like Oh, well, 361 00:24:22.480 --> 00:24:24.359 we're the enlightened white man. We have to go and 362 00:24:24.519 --> 00:24:27.319 save these savages from this. There's the other side of 363 00:24:27.359 --> 00:24:29.480 the coin, which is, oh, man, like, our culture is 364 00:24:29.519 --> 00:24:33.839 so messed up. We suck, We're so screwed up, dude, Like, man, 365 00:24:33.960 --> 00:24:36.119 it would just be so cool if Pocahontas was still 366 00:24:36.200 --> 00:24:39.480 kicking it and just like smoking DMT, ripping bong loads 367 00:24:39.519 --> 00:24:41.759 with your boyfriend with long hair and stuff like, they 368 00:24:41.759 --> 00:24:43.960 would help us heal the planet. It's like this, this 369 00:24:44.039 --> 00:24:46.960 is the opposite side of the coin of that. And yeah, 370 00:24:47.000 --> 00:24:49.160 there's a lot of that kind of packed in here. 371 00:24:49.400 --> 00:24:51.839 And when you look at most indigenous cultures that are 372 00:24:51.839 --> 00:24:54.799 still around now, the way that they use these plants, 373 00:24:54.839 --> 00:24:59.240 it's more and this does get represented in this film, 374 00:24:59.480 --> 00:25:02.599 the kind of virtual warfare aspect of it. This gets 375 00:25:02.640 --> 00:25:06.359 represented between the protagonists and the antagonists, between Vincent Cassel 376 00:25:06.400 --> 00:25:09.079 and Michael Madson's character. That's kind of more how they 377 00:25:09.119 --> 00:25:11.440 were using these compounds, and it wasn't the whole tribe. 378 00:25:11.640 --> 00:25:15.680 There would be like one guy within a group of 379 00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:17.799 you know, maybe ten, fifteen, twenty families that were living 380 00:25:17.839 --> 00:25:20.440 together tribally, and there was the one guy who was 381 00:25:21.000 --> 00:25:28.119 the initiated whatever shaman guy who would whisper to the spirits. 382 00:25:29.000 --> 00:25:33.000 And it wasn't about healing the planet and we're all 383 00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:34.759 just going to be healed. We all just have to 384 00:25:34.799 --> 00:25:37.839 heal our trauma. It was about power dynamics, right. It 385 00:25:37.920 --> 00:25:42.680 was the way that Crowley was using psychedelics is actually 386 00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:46.240 how indigenous groups were using psychedelics and still use them. 387 00:25:46.319 --> 00:25:48.480 They used them for power over other people. They use 388 00:25:48.599 --> 00:25:52.680 them for getting windows into other realms, to get information, 389 00:25:53.200 --> 00:25:56.240 to get power and strength over the external environment and 390 00:25:56.359 --> 00:26:00.599 other people in the psychos like the psychologically as well 391 00:26:00.599 --> 00:26:01.599 as physically. 392 00:26:01.599 --> 00:26:05.880 What Matthew McConaughey calls the shack o the Chakras, the 393 00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:07.759 Chakras fee, the Chakras fere. 394 00:26:07.960 --> 00:26:08.160 Yeah. 395 00:26:08.799 --> 00:26:08.920 Uh. 396 00:26:09.559 --> 00:26:10.599 Now again though. 397 00:26:13.160 --> 00:26:15.519 People have to understand that people thought I was joking 398 00:26:15.559 --> 00:26:19.359 about the Boomer sex tents, I'm not. You have confirmed 399 00:26:19.440 --> 00:26:23.079 that as eyewitness account out there peeping with your peepers 400 00:26:23.519 --> 00:26:26.160 into the Boomer sex tents. All the Tristan out there 401 00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:29.440