Speaker 1: One zero.
Speaker 2: Dire wave dire wave.
Speaker 3: The scientific method cannot justify the scientific method. Therefore itself
Speaker 3: is a dogmatical.
Speaker 4: Subsisten less sensensen assents.
Speaker 1: As its extent, it's.
Speaker 4: As listens, listens.
Speaker 5: M m m m.
Speaker 2: Hmm.
Speaker 3: Had a bunch of bad trips with Indians, had a
Speaker 3: bunch of desert drugs in my system, smoking a little
Speaker 3: bit of that snake, smoking that rattlesnake tail, getting high from.
Speaker 5: Licking scalps. You know you could get high from licking scalps.
Speaker 3: You will see into Mother Earth's cerebral cortex when you
Speaker 3: lick scalps like the Indians used to do. That's what
Speaker 3: we're gonna be talking about today when we get our
Speaker 3: boy Tristan Schristan, which is Quebecy for meat, if you
Speaker 3: didn't know, that's the Quebecy word for meat. And looks
Speaker 3: like he's coming, Tristan. We're waiting on our little boy, Tristan.
Speaker 2: What's up?
Speaker 5: Schristan?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 5: Can you hear me now? Baby?
Speaker 1: You hear me?
Speaker 2: Yes? I can.
Speaker 3: Right, We've got to make sure the audience can hear
Speaker 3: us though, because I was talking about you saying that
Speaker 3: your name means meat in French?
Speaker 5: Is that true?
Speaker 6: Christan It means like it means has a large slab
Speaker 6: of meat on his back, between between his legs.
Speaker 1: It's that's the actual.
Speaker 3: Between the nuts and the booty hoole, that little area
Speaker 3: that's where you have.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's it's Tristan. Actually, it's a French name. It
Speaker 1: actually means superior to Jay Dyer. It's weird, like direct translated,
Speaker 1: that's exactly what it means.
Speaker 3: Okay, in the Quebecy right from the original Quebecy.
Speaker 5: Yes, Okay, what's up, dude. Thanks for coming on, man.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on, big Shot. I appreciate you
Speaker 1: talking as little people.
Speaker 3: And I'm still trying to figure out the hierarchy the
Speaker 3: totem pole. Given today's a lot of Indian stuff, the
Speaker 3: totem pole is a better image for today's because I
Speaker 3: don't know if I'm higher on the totem.
Speaker 5: Pole than you know, because L J.
Speaker 7: Dyer, in this totem pole, you actually want to be
Speaker 7: on the bottom, because if you will only use your imagination,
Speaker 7: you will realize that the totem pole is God, and
Speaker 7: God is everything, and you are also God. If you
Speaker 7: just listen to the machine l's and put the peep
Speaker 7: in the pooping.
Speaker 5: You know we're pure imagination. Can anybody I couldn't.
Speaker 3: Could y'all hear the first few minutes of me talking
Speaker 3: about talking about trustan or not? I couldn't tell if
Speaker 3: I had the sound messed up? Can y'all tell me?
Speaker 3: I was talking smack talking about how you could get
Speaker 3: high from smoking Indian browndsnake rattlers can get high that way.
Speaker 5: You can get high from licking scalps. Indians used to
Speaker 5: do that.
Speaker 3: You could see into the cerebral cortex of Mother Earth
Speaker 3: herself DAYA.
Speaker 1: We call it a third eye scrying, and you you
Speaker 1: basically yeah, I don't. I don't want to get into that.
Speaker 1: What that means on the on the dark web, third
Speaker 1: iy scrying? M hm mm hmmm.
Speaker 3: Uh did you know that that when the Indian was
Speaker 3: they suspected that he was gay. They used to say that, uh,
Speaker 3: he was light in his No, I just screwed my
Speaker 3: joke up. What's the Indian word for slippers? What are
Speaker 3: Indian slippers called?
Speaker 1: I thought it was they would just say like he
Speaker 1: he was. I think they would name they would give
Speaker 1: him different names when.
Speaker 5: They they would be he would be.
Speaker 3: Walk walks with J would be sassy antelope, little little
Speaker 3: sassy antelope.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like like stands like J would be his name.
Speaker 5: Yes, meet on ass Like Tristan.
Speaker 1: You say, you say I got a nice some nice
Speaker 1: meaty butt cheeks like you like my meaty booty.
Speaker 5: I mean, that's what the that's what the Quebecy translation
Speaker 5: of your name means. That's all I'm saying, which is
Speaker 5: a different from the Quebec the normal French.
Speaker 3: Anyway, So what we decided to do today was two
Speaker 3: psychonaut movies. It has nothing really to do with Fourth
Speaker 3: of July and America and all that. Tristan said, let's
Speaker 3: do a Fourth of July stream. I said, let's do
Speaker 3: a dystopia Psychonauts stream, which is not really dystopian, but
Speaker 3: that's okay.
Speaker 1: So we dide a nice mix, right, We got like
Speaker 1: you got kind of you got you have like in
Speaker 1: the inside the mind of a boomer, which is altered states.
Speaker 3: It's like the boomer you already you read my mind, dude.
Speaker 3: We did not our jokes because I have a bunch
Speaker 3: of boomer jokes in my houses.
Speaker 5: You already read my mind.
Speaker 1: Right, I mean that's what that movie is, dude, altered State.
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm watching it. It just got art laughing
Speaker 1: out loud half the movie.
Speaker 3: I know, I was cracking up. Jamie and I watched
Speaker 3: it maybe two years ago, and I was I started
Speaker 3: falling asleep because I thought it was really stupid. I
Speaker 3: woke up at the end with that I'll save the
Speaker 3: ending for later because it's priceless.
Speaker 5: But I was cracking out when.
Speaker 3: I woke up out of my sleep and I was like,
Speaker 3: what is happening. I didn't know if I was still
Speaker 3: dreaming or if this was really the way the movie
Speaker 3: was ending. But and then let's start with this. Let's
Speaker 3: start with the one you recommended, which was it was
Speaker 3: pretty damn weird. I didn't like it at first, and
Speaker 3: then the more that I was progressing in the plot,
Speaker 3: I was I was getting a little more into it.
Speaker 5: It's called Blueberry or Renegade.
Speaker 3: It has two different titles, and it's a two thousand
Speaker 3: and four film by some foreign French Quebecy American Indian person.
Speaker 1: I don't know what his name is, but nerd.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and uh.
Speaker 3: It has Michael Mads and Juliette Lewis who actually looks
Speaker 3: like a normal person.
Speaker 1: In this you know most she's like almost likable.
Speaker 5: This yet the movie she looks like a sixteen year
Speaker 5: old lot lizard whore.
Speaker 8: But in this movie, but she does.
Speaker 1: She does like a spread eagle bush shot in the film,
Speaker 1: of course. So just so you know it's Juliet Lewis,
Speaker 1: she had to show the Yoni so.
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Speaker 5: Well, I'm more like a B level eat C level.
Speaker 5: Tristan's like a D level.
Speaker 1: Plus I'm scrambling, I'm trying. I'm trying to crawl up
Speaker 1: at his legs. And you know, by if I can
Speaker 1: make Jay feel insecure enough, then I can feel like
Speaker 1: maybe my celeb status is elevated a little bit.
Speaker 5: No, damn, who's higher on this tone pole?
Speaker 3: I mean, you got the check mark from YouTube, right,
Speaker 3: But I was But I was eating oysters with Alex Jones.
Speaker 1: The other day, so yeah, well yeah, I mean, you
Speaker 1: don't know what I had to the things I had
Speaker 1: to do for that check mark. You actually, you probably don't.
Speaker 3: So technically, so you are a little bit above me
Speaker 3: on the meter.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, that's all right.
Speaker 3: We'll just we'll start some drama and take you down
Speaker 3: this week. So okay, let's talk about Blueberry. Thank you
Speaker 3: for recommending this. It starts out with like my eagle sound.
Speaker 1: It's like, isn't he is? It Like it's like a
Speaker 1: spinning camera shot of the dude laying on the ground
Speaker 1: and he's like, I'm dead.
Speaker 3: Yes, he's appearing to be dead, and uh, I don't
Speaker 3: know how quick the eagle shows up, But that made
Speaker 3: me think of America. I mean, there's yes America in
Speaker 3: America today with the Eagle sound.
Speaker 1: That's the most American shot in both of these movies.
Speaker 5: And so Vincent Gallo is going to go on a
Speaker 5: mystical journey of sorts.
Speaker 1: Vincent, right, isn't it? Isn't it? Vincent? What did I say, Gallo?
Speaker 3: Vincent Cassel, Vince a Gallow, I don't know that.
Speaker 1: And it's not for the Chats booger whistle. It's Vincent.
Speaker 3: Although never mind, I get too dumb here. I was
Speaker 3: going to do an Eagles booger whistle, which would be
Speaker 3: even higher, but an Eagles book booger whistle would be
Speaker 3: so high pitched you couldn't hear it. It would make
Speaker 3: dogs bark. Alchemy the Gnostic Cross, Yeah, so the opening
Speaker 3: images you see this this weird book that's got like
Speaker 3: a Gnostic looking cross of Jesus of sorts, and we
Speaker 3: find out later that that's going to be a treasure map.
Speaker 3: So I kind of think what's going on is two
Speaker 3: layers of finding treasure here. So on the one level,
Speaker 3: we've got, oh, there's a golden statue somewhere.
Speaker 5: Michael Madsen, as.
Speaker 3: You said, is the evil sorcerer, but we've also got
Speaker 3: this initiatory journey that Vincent Cassel is going to go on,
Speaker 3: right that, so it's basically a magical journey slash battle
Speaker 3: that's gonna happen, and that's not Yeah, yeah, I didn't know,
Speaker 3: but it's kind of like, yeah, I didn't know what
Speaker 3: to expect.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like, yeah, it's a weird movie because
Speaker 1: you think it's just a normal Western when you see
Speaker 1: the first dots, like it just seems like, a Okay,
Speaker 1: it's just some weird, semi low budget Western from the
Speaker 1: early two thousands, but it actually it's more of kind
Speaker 1: of like an alchemical journey through this guy's psyche to
Speaker 1: try and reconcile like busted up parts of his psyche. Right, so,
Speaker 1: I think it's It starts out soon after the intro
Speaker 1: where it shows that manuscript thing, and it's all these
Speaker 1: pictures of like little engine man and Paoti buttons and
Speaker 1: like you know, like trippy looking whatever. They they kind
Speaker 1: of made a mismatch of like Shapibo artwork and South
Speaker 1: American tribal artwork with Aztec stuff with Native American like,
Speaker 1: and they mix all of the esthetic together into one
Speaker 1: kind of like weird mumbo jumbo general esthetic of like animism,
Speaker 1: kind of like the animistic religion and shamanism exactly what
Speaker 1: I thought was interesting about the depiction of it as
Speaker 1: opposed to like the pure when you watch like Altered States,
Speaker 1: it's kind of coming from this John C. Lily psychonat
Speaker 1: Timothy Leary. We've got like a psychologist and an anthropologist,
Speaker 1: and it's coming from this Western scientific boomer mentality, whereas
Speaker 1: this one was more like a I don't know, kind
Speaker 1: of like a Western mysticism mixed with Eastern mysticism and
Speaker 1: animism altogether. And yeah, you mentioned like the dual thing
Speaker 1: about like the treasure hunt, right, So they're hunting for
Speaker 1: this gold and there's this German character what's that guy's name,
Speaker 1: Like the Prussians, I would bring new mountains of gold.
Speaker 1: We would go and we would get on the gold.
Speaker 1: So this guy's searching for like physical treasure. And then
Speaker 1: these other characters are looking for this sort of like
Speaker 1: spiritual power rather than physical treasure.
Speaker 5: The philosopher stoned dude.
Speaker 1: Because they have the stone philosophers owned yep. So he's
Speaker 1: laying there like basically you don't even find out because
Speaker 1: it's kind of a I guess it's a circular timeline.
Speaker 1: It kind of loops around.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's like a beginning. The beginning of the
Speaker 3: movie is where the movie more or less ends. And
Speaker 3: did you notice that right away when he's starting to see,
Speaker 3: you know, the spiritual realm or whatever he's seeing, he's
Speaker 3: basically his life is flashing before him that he he
Speaker 3: sees the world like a matrix. Do you notice how
Speaker 3: matrix sye it looked.
Speaker 1: When he and then at the end, Yeah, there seem
Speaker 1: to be these like spiritual layers of and then the
Speaker 1: way that it visually portrays it, I thought it was.
Speaker 1: It's less hokey than a lot of these other kind
Speaker 1: of psycho Nott films, Like it's done in a more
Speaker 1: kind of It seems like it's a more contemplated film
Speaker 1: than a lot of these corny like I don't know,
Speaker 1: like it takes some masses and watch this, it's going
Speaker 1: to trip you out, man, Whereas like Altered States was
Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell happened there. We'll get
Speaker 1: into that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that one is something else.
Speaker 1: But so he's the layers of that, But then there's
Speaker 1: also there's a lot of serpent imagery.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well she asks him at the beginning, Remember she says,
Speaker 3: do you believe in God?
Speaker 5: Right, Well, he goes to see his chick.
Speaker 3: He flashes back to the kid when he's the kid,
Speaker 3: and he goes to see his flucy.
Speaker 1: Or his so you have soy Vincent Cassel, so soy young,
Speaker 1: soy Vincent.
Speaker 3: Visiting the strumpet, the ladies of the evening, the flucy market.
Speaker 3: Every every every Western, every saloon has a lady's flucy
Speaker 3: market above.
Speaker 5: They noticed that.
Speaker 1: They're always banging, right, that's all.
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 5: There's nothing else to do except what trip acid?
Speaker 3: Shoot people in the saloon, choose some tobacco, and go
Speaker 3: to the to the strumpet market above the saloon.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. So he goes there and then
Speaker 1: there's kind of a there's an altercation. Michael Madsen comes in.
Speaker 1: He's actually really good in that, like this is the
Speaker 1: perfect role for him. Is an evil cowboy like Michael
Speaker 1: Madson should be an evil outvoid in every film. That's
Speaker 1: just how I imagine he is in real life, like
Speaker 1: trying to dose you on acid and steal your soul.
Speaker 1: So he he comes in and kind of there's this
Speaker 1: threatening scene and some guns get pulled out and then
Speaker 1: the camera throws outside and then the guy falls out
Speaker 1: the window and you don't know what happened. You hear
Speaker 1: gunshots and the houses on fire, right, and then that's
Speaker 1: kind of like that's the intro traumatic event and you
Speaker 1: don't really know what happened in there. Kind of a
Speaker 1: I mean not the most like amazing plot piece. You
Speaker 1: can kind of put it together after that scene that okay,
Speaker 1: well you don't know what happened in there, so later
Speaker 1: on maybe he'll find out. But that throws him on
Speaker 1: this like what happened? He gets like picked up by
Speaker 1: the Indians, right, they throw him out in the desert.
Speaker 3: He goes full, uh you know, dances with wolves, right,
Speaker 3: full Kevin Costner dances with wolves.
Speaker 1: Ends up with the Engines, the dark Knight of the Soul.
Speaker 1: He's got his uh you know. So the Indians pick
Speaker 1: him up and then what they like he doesn't really.
Speaker 3: Well, he gets close bulls off the horse and he's
Speaker 3: kind of you know, brought in and they're like, all right, uh,
Speaker 3: what does every tribe do when they bring a white
Speaker 3: man in?
Speaker 1: Time?
Speaker 5: To give him that ayahuasca. Give him right away and
Speaker 5: he broke his back. Give him some d MT.
Speaker 1: So the Indians are just sitting around and they're so
Speaker 1: enlightened and they're just so connected to nature, and they're
Speaker 1: like the eagles come and they like they chump the
Speaker 1: Indians arms, and they're just they're so powerful and long hair.
Speaker 5: White man need us?
Speaker 3: Do white men need to do him to right so
Speaker 3: that they get him stoned out of his mind?
Speaker 1: The glove, the tobacco smoke on him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh, but he every time he gets injured, right,
Speaker 3: doesn't he get don't they kind.
Speaker 5: Of smoke him out? They get him. They smoke him.
Speaker 3: Every time he gets injured. And and that's like he
Speaker 3: has to go through these stages, right, and then he's
Speaker 3: you know, he meets up with that dude that has
Speaker 3: a eagle spirit animal, remember that.
Speaker 1: Little bit his buddies like the son of the head
Speaker 1: shown in Guy. So they heal him, do they give
Speaker 1: him do they give him like a potion at that
Speaker 1: time or do they wait till later? I don't they
Speaker 1: wait till later.
Speaker 5: I was just I was just saying, he but but
Speaker 5: the other Indians.
Speaker 1: Are drinking the potion. It's like they're part of this
Speaker 1: club and they're part like they're they're getting in on
Speaker 1: the d n T. They're talking to the machinoes, you know,
Speaker 1: what's up. And so it's kind of I mean, it's
Speaker 1: kind of this like hokey view of animism and of
Speaker 1: shamanism and of folk medicine, and it's not really how
Speaker 1: it is. It's like that not all the all these
Speaker 1: indigenous trying.
Speaker 3: Because when you watch movies, you know, they always present
Speaker 3: it like there's nothing more spiritual and enlightened than primal, archaic,
Speaker 3: archaic revival, primitivist Indian spirituality. Like there's just this mystique
Speaker 3: that is kind of a pop culture creation. Whicheah, there's
Speaker 3: no real basis for because you live in an area
Speaker 3: where this is prevalent, and the boomers fly down there
Speaker 3: to go into their little you know, sex tents and
Speaker 3: get sweaty all weekend and they're basically just getting jypped
Speaker 3: by pseudoshaman, Right, can you touch on that?
Speaker 1: That's the thing is, it's like that doesn't really exist
Speaker 1: and it didn't really exist in the way that they
Speaker 1: portrayed in Hollywood. Right, they we have this everybody knows
Speaker 1: that Western culture is really screwed up, right, like big pharma.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows that the nature of big farm is to
Speaker 1: go take you know, natural plant compounds, find how they
Speaker 1: can be isolated, patent them, and use them to market
Speaker 1: as drugs, right, like you have fentanyl, you have you know,
Speaker 1: this huge opioid crisis all comes from the opium poppy,
Speaker 1: which is actually pretty difficult to get, like really badly
Speaker 1: addicted to pure opium poppy. It's a lot different, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So they've taken these things
Speaker 1: and they made them so addictive. So everybody knows about
Speaker 1: the bastardization of like nature, the natural, whatever you want
Speaker 1: to call it. I mean, your conception of what nature
Speaker 1: is is so screwed up. In the West, right, and
Speaker 1: you don't even have this they don't even have a
Speaker 1: concept of the fall in the West, right, But yet
Speaker 1: they somehow have this unspoken belief that Western civilization is fallen.
Speaker 1: Yet what's not fallen is animistic religions, shamanism and the
Speaker 1: noble savage myth. Right, Like this thing of it's like
Speaker 1: the opposite, the opposite side of the coin of the
Speaker 1: take up the white man's burden of like Oh, well,
Speaker 1: we're the enlightened white man. We have to go and
Speaker 1: save these savages from this. There's the other side of
Speaker 1: the coin, which is, oh, man, like, our culture is
Speaker 1: so messed up. We suck, We're so screwed up, dude, Like, man,
Speaker 1: it would just be so cool if Pocahontas was still
Speaker 1: kicking it and just like smoking DMT, ripping bong loads
Speaker 1: with your boyfriend with long hair and stuff like, they
Speaker 1: would help us heal the planet. It's like this, this
Speaker 1: is the opposite side of the coin of that. And yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of that kind of packed in here.
Speaker 1: And when you look at most indigenous cultures that are
Speaker 1: still around now, the way that they use these plants,
Speaker 1: it's more and this does get represented in this film,
Speaker 1: the kind of virtual warfare aspect of it. This gets
Speaker 1: represented between the protagonists and the antagonists, between Vincent Cassel
Speaker 1: and Michael Madson's character. That's kind of more how they
Speaker 1: were using these compounds, and it wasn't the whole tribe.
Speaker 1: There would be like one guy within a group of
Speaker 1: you know, maybe ten, fifteen, twenty families that were living
Speaker 1: together tribally, and there was the one guy who was
Speaker 1: the initiated whatever shaman guy who would whisper to the spirits.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't about healing the planet and we're all
Speaker 1: just going to be healed. We all just have to
Speaker 1: heal our trauma. It was about power dynamics, right. It
Speaker 1: was the way that Crowley was using psychedelics is actually
Speaker 1: how indigenous groups were using psychedelics and still use them.
Speaker 1: They used them for power over other people. They use
Speaker 1: them for getting windows into other realms, to get information,
Speaker 1: to get power and strength over the external environment and
Speaker 1: other people in the psychos like the psychologically as well
Speaker 1: as physically.
Speaker 3: What Matthew McConaughey calls the shack o the Chakras, the
Speaker 3: Chakras fee, the Chakras fere.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: Now again though.
Speaker 3: People have to understand that people thought I was joking
Speaker 3: about the Boomer sex tents, I'm not. You have confirmed
Speaker 3: that as eyewitness account out there peeping with your peepers
Speaker 3: into the Boomer sex tents. All the Tristan out there
Speaker 3: scouts this stuff like reconnaissance intel for us, and he
Speaker 3: sits and watches for hours at night up in a perch.
Speaker 3: He's got a little a little crow's nest perch and
Speaker 3: he watches the boomers for hours on end doing who
Speaker 3: knows what in the tents with the shamans.
Speaker 1: You gotta do that in the Bill Cosby voice, So.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I know that's true.
Speaker 1: Like it's it's very abusive. There's very abusive stuff that
Speaker 1: goes on in a lot of these kind of shamanic circles.
Speaker 1: And you're not most a lot of these people are.
Speaker 1: These people are alcoholics too, These people who are running
Speaker 1: ceremonies that get really into the drink. They really like
Speaker 1: the drink. I mean, they're using all sorts of substances
Speaker 1: to gain to try and gain power, and they a
Speaker 1: lot of them come at it from a place of like, oh, look,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to explore I want the truth, I want
Speaker 1: to explore consciousness, whatever, and they end up just becoming
Speaker 1: slaves to hedonism. It ends up a hedonistic endeavor of
Speaker 1: hedonistic power over the environment. And I think a lot
Speaker 1: of it. Referencing Crowley is very, very it's real relevant
Speaker 1: because the exactly because he was doing this before anybody
Speaker 1: and he ended up finding through his own exploration that
Speaker 1: the same way that in shamanic circles they're using dance, drugs,
Speaker 1: and ritual sex. He ended up tying this in with
Speaker 1: Golden Dawn Rituals, which was using a lot of the
Speaker 1: same things as well, and then kind of selling this
Speaker 1: to a lot of the aristocracy in Europe and to
Speaker 1: a lot of the West. Yeah, the macarena exactly. That's
Speaker 1: the most powerful shamonic initiation. Actually, yeah, I'll turn you
Speaker 1: into that.
Speaker 3: High level, into a sassy little Ricky Martin.
Speaker 5: Remember your name. Your Indian name is sassy Antelope.
Speaker 1: I think it was Christy Martin was my Indian name.
Speaker 5: Your Indian name is fabulous moose. How about hump?
Speaker 3: How about in honor of John cy Lilly, you could
Speaker 3: be humping dolphin. All right, Why are y'all being so
Speaker 3: tight tonight? Just throw them super chats at me. Put
Speaker 3: them into those go in directly into my bit fund,
Speaker 3: which is my bitcoin hedge fund, to make me a
Speaker 3: competitor with George's shore Ros. And then let's go on
Speaker 3: to where we at. So I'm sorry, I'm getting way
Speaker 3: lost here.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, so he had that he had like that
Speaker 1: scene where Psyche's kind of fractured or whatever.
Speaker 3: Yes, because he has a trauma memory, he suppressed exactly
Speaker 3: and that and.
Speaker 1: This is another thing that it shows is that the
Speaker 1: psychedelic experiences are based on trauma. So it gets sold
Speaker 1: in the West a lot of you're gonna you're gonna
Speaker 1: go in You're gonna heal your trauma, right Like, you're
Speaker 1: gonna go in there and you're gonna figure out what
Speaker 1: that trauma was. You're gonna look at it from just
Speaker 1: the right angle, and you're gonna heal it. But there's
Speaker 1: no real framework for healing within this, right, It's like
Speaker 1: you're looking at in the West, Right, you're looking at psychiatrists, psychologists,
Speaker 1: you know, all funded by by who knows who? We
Speaker 1: know who back in the seventies, right, you had Timothy
Speaker 1: Leary was has openly admitted to working with CIA.
Speaker 2: John C.
Speaker 1: Lilly was getting state department funding. Was a navy that
Speaker 1: was that was funny.
Speaker 2: O NI and yeah and CIA.
Speaker 3: And if if you go and listen to the old
Speaker 3: interview that day with doctor Richard Spence, who wrote his
Speaker 3: book on Crowley's intelligence work, he makes a compelling argument,
Speaker 3: like Tristan was saying that Crowley was probably doing proto
Speaker 3: mk Ultrie style work when he wrote his Drug Diary,
Speaker 3: which people in Britain. Huxley's read that would kind of
Speaker 3: evolve into the nascent British version of him Kulture Tavistock,
Speaker 3: this kind of stuff. They were doing the exact same
Speaker 3: stuff over there. The West in the US was doing
Speaker 3: the same type of stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is what the experience is that people
Speaker 1: have when they go into these states. It's this experience
Speaker 1: of trauma, right, because it takes away it puts you
Speaker 1: in the back seat. Your rational mind kind of takes
Speaker 1: a back seat, and then experiential phenomenon become really more intense,
Speaker 1: and it makes you more impressionable, It makes you more suggestible,
Speaker 1: and it opens you up to everything. Right, It's like
Speaker 1: the doors of perception open up, they say, And that
Speaker 1: actually is true. But what's behind that? Right, what's actually
Speaker 1: behind that? Is the question? And I think this is
Speaker 1: an interesting film because it does kind of show this
Speaker 1: aspect of like spiritual warfare and power dynamics. Is what's
Speaker 1: really going on in this and the battles that are
Speaker 1: going on, these shamanic battles. It's not just about one
Speaker 1: guy healing himself. It's about him taking power from this
Speaker 1: other guy who's like the dark sorcerer shaman who says
Speaker 1: he wants to be able to kill with his spirit.
Speaker 1: Is what he says, Michael matt Is, I want to
Speaker 1: be able to kill with my spirit. And I think
Speaker 1: Crowley's work he actually did kind of openly talk about
Speaker 1: a lot of this. He openly talked about a little bit.
Speaker 1: He talked about his use of mescaline and peote, but
Speaker 1: he wasn't that explicit in a lot of his stuff
Speaker 1: as well. And a lot of these scholars who've looked
Speaker 1: deeper at Kroley, and I'm not saying, like cro he's
Speaker 1: an idiot, he's a buffood, He's a He wasn't a
Speaker 1: power hungry addict who spent his life obsessively putting his
Speaker 1: pep in the poo poo and teaching other people how
Speaker 1: to do that for power over people. But when you
Speaker 1: read like some of the like here's a quote from
Speaker 1: the Book of the Law he talks about he says,
Speaker 1: I'm the snake that giveth knowledge and delight. Oh that's interesting, right,
Speaker 1: the snake that giveth knowledge. Right, So this openly Luciferian
Speaker 1: Satanic philosophy there and delight.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: They always use his words like the Garden of natural
Speaker 1: delights and stuff like that. Of this imagery is really
Speaker 1: tied in with the psychedelic experiences as well, like a
Speaker 1: lot of the old Like the prog bands in the seventies,
Speaker 1: they use this imagery a lot of like the Garden
Speaker 1: of earthly Delights and stuff like that, about you know,
Speaker 1: delighting the senses and really enticing all the senses and
Speaker 1: opening up the senses and being really drunk on the senses.
Speaker 1: So then then he says, to worship me, take wine
Speaker 1: and strange drugs, whereof I will tell my profit and
Speaker 1: be drunk thereof they shall not harm you at all.
Speaker 1: This is a lie, this folly against self. The exposure
Speaker 1: of innocence is a lie. Be strong a man, enjoy
Speaker 1: all things of sense and rapture. Fear not that any
Speaker 1: gods shall deny me for this. And this quote right here,
Speaker 1: this is from the from the Book of the Law
Speaker 1: that he's supposedly channeled. And how was he channeling, right,
Speaker 1: How was he getting into these states? He was taking
Speaker 1: tons of drugs and getting a highly crazy, ecstatic, sexual
Speaker 1: richual and then having other people channel and he was
Speaker 1: channeling the stuff as well. It was just this big
Speaker 1: Hodgepodge of just basically hammering himself with the drugs and
Speaker 1: sensory experiences and yoga you call it. He brought yoga
Speaker 1: to the West. So this thing of like fear, not
Speaker 1: that any God shall deny thee for this is a
Speaker 1: really interesting Satanic quote and I think that's colored the
Speaker 1: psychedelic movement a lot over the over the decades.
Speaker 5: There, I'm gonna do a little poetry. You ready got
Speaker 5: the Snake to the.
Speaker 9: Lake, the Ancient Lake Baby, The Snake is alone, seven
Speaker 9: miles ride Snake.
Speaker 1: He and Morrison they put Crowley on which album cover
Speaker 1: was that one of their.
Speaker 3: Album's on the Beatles and he's on h on Her
Speaker 3: Majesty's Satanant Requests, Rolling Stones and he's on I don't
Speaker 3: know if he's on the Doors, but I think there
Speaker 3: is a Crowley Wars connection. But I was just laughing
Speaker 3: because what you're when you're reading what his channeling, it
Speaker 3: sounded like it sounds like a bull from Jim Morrison,
Speaker 3: which is.
Speaker 1: Exactly and it's always the same site as the same
Speaker 1: Uh Satanic Luciferian ideology of the snake is good.
Speaker 5: The slithers into the list.
Speaker 3: But Jim Morrison sounds like a third grader, and everybody
Speaker 3: thinks this, who that's so deep?
Speaker 5: Dude, he said is long.
Speaker 2: Was born.
Speaker 3: His skin is cold, cold, and he's old. He's old
Speaker 3: and his skin is cold and he's bold.
Speaker 1: But dude, I mean, who's like rhybing snake with lake?
Speaker 1: That's pretty good, that's pretty rare, but yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 1: So all the this is, this is really the root
Speaker 1: of a lot of the psychedelic experience has not only
Speaker 1: been You're primed with all of this media input. So
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter where you are, who you are when
Speaker 1: you're going into this. If you you've consumed pop culture,
Speaker 1: you are going in there preceded with this Luciferian kind
Speaker 1: of this Looseferian ideology and satanic ideology has already been
Speaker 1: implanted in you culturally, and then you're going to open
Speaker 1: up yourself to these spiritual realms. And a lot of
Speaker 1: people they go mad with these experiences. They come back
Speaker 1: completely psychotic, or they come back psychopathic and they stop,
Speaker 1: you know, they say, oh, well I understand everything now,
Speaker 1: but just these people they smash their psyche open and
Speaker 1: then they come back and they're just basically Jim Moore
Speaker 1: like like a slightly dumber version of Jim Morrison. And
Speaker 1: this is I don't know what it is, but it
Speaker 1: definitely seems like more of a spiritual layer that's affecting
Speaker 1: this rather than just the just the physical drugs.
Speaker 3: You're scared of your own psyche man.
Speaker 5: You're your own worst enemy. Fear is the mind killer.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: You're you're afraid of confronting your own demons, and that's
Speaker 3: what that's what Psychedelc's forced.
Speaker 2: You to do.
Speaker 3: Man, You're stuck in your own mental prison. That's literally
Speaker 3: how they always cast it to I had countless I'm
Speaker 3: not countless, but I've had multiple seven eight acid trips.
Speaker 3: I've had two or three bad trips and it was
Speaker 3: a nightmare. So no, I have faced my own psychonauts,
Speaker 3: slithering Jim Morrison demons right I face.
Speaker 1: I think those bad trips actually had to be better
Speaker 1: for people than the good ones because when they come,
Speaker 1: you come like if you come back from something like
Speaker 1: this and you're like, oh, I'm not afraid of anything now,
Speaker 1: I'm so awesome, Like I'm gonna do it. I could
Speaker 1: do anything, man, I'm not scared.
Speaker 5: I saw in the world, dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it all, man, I know everything. It's
Speaker 1: like people legit come back like that, like I know
Speaker 1: everything and I just know it intuitively. And it's like
Speaker 1: it's such a delusion. It's such prelest. It's so freaking demonic.
Speaker 1: And they think that every thought that pops into their
Speaker 1: head after these experience true, like this is genius and
Speaker 1: true nobody's ever thought this in the ever and you
Speaker 1: end up like Joe Rogan's like, oh, man, isn't an
Speaker 1: amazing that? Like, dude, we have cell phones and like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's so weird. We can like call each other. We're
Speaker 1: so evolved. We were monkeys and now we have cell phones.
Speaker 1: Do we're God's We're gonna be odds bro.
Speaker 9: Fucking dude, plastic fucking magic instrument. It's like, dude, do
Speaker 9: you realize that this thing right here is like a
Speaker 9: magic one that can take a thought and put it
Speaker 9: onto a paper.
Speaker 2: Bro? But dude, your.
Speaker 1: Thoughts, like when you put your thoughts out into the world,
Speaker 1: it manifests reality. I mean, it's these are the most
Speaker 1: like what do you what are you in sixth grade?
Speaker 1: What do you just realize that language is freaking amazing?
Speaker 2: Dude?
Speaker 1: We all know this. This is all stuff. It's like
Speaker 1: you're not the first person to ever experience like I just.
Speaker 5: Had a thought.
Speaker 1: We're all one.
Speaker 5: What we're all one?
Speaker 2: WHOA, I'm you, you're me.
Speaker 5: We're all one.
Speaker 1: I am you and you are me, and we're a
Speaker 1: happy family.
Speaker 3: Dude, like Barnie Barney level philosophy, right, exactly, I.
Speaker 8: Am you, you are me.
Speaker 1: We're a happy family, and we just need to like
Speaker 1: be cool and save ourselves. Doude because like there's no God.
Speaker 3: By the way, as you know, all of these idiots
Speaker 3: are then also vegans within a day or two.
Speaker 1: Well, this is another thing that comes up. It's like
Speaker 1: you there's this weird guilt thing that's still there, that
Speaker 1: knowledge of sin. I think it is really right. It's
Speaker 1: like we know that we're falling, we know that we sin,
Speaker 1: but there's something about that state that can put people
Speaker 1: in such a deluded prelst and then they come back
Speaker 1: and they think they're so enlightened and they're going to
Speaker 1: save the world and all there. Terence McKenna.
Speaker 7: It's like, if I have this this notion, if I
Speaker 7: could just do the perfect action always, then the whole
Speaker 7: universe would crystallize and do a perfect giant dildo crystal
Speaker 7: and would penetrate the void.
Speaker 3: And we could always sound like he was smoking some
Speaker 3: bildos quite a bit. Actually he does. They're smoking a
Speaker 3: lot of dildos.
Speaker 2: And he was.
Speaker 3: Supposedly a pan pan lover, if you know what I mean. Supposedly,
Speaker 3: by the way, in his book in Front of the Gods,
Speaker 3: which I do have a lecture on in the Jason
Speaker 3: Alyson's archives, he says he does say that LSD and
Speaker 3: shrooms are like a version of the They're like a Satanic,
Speaker 3: Luciferian gnostic version of the Lord's Supper.
Speaker 5: That's the way he casts it.
Speaker 3: He says, he says that eating and doing hallucinogens is
Speaker 3: the tree of knowledge again exactly which, by the way,
Speaker 3: when you say that to people who are big fans
Speaker 3: of this stuff, oh bro, you're scared, like they mock
Speaker 3: you when you're saying the very things that these guys say, right,
Speaker 3: I mean, they say that you're scared content with demons,
Speaker 3: You'll speak the demons, You'll speak to aliens and entities.
Speaker 1: Johnny, you're just such a pussy. You just don't realize
Speaker 1: that you're a god. Bro. I realize I'm God and
Speaker 1: you're just afraid because you know I'm God deep down inside.
Speaker 5: I'm a God. Bro, you're a pussy. I'm a God,
Speaker 5: and I'm more of a God than you are.
Speaker 1: Dude, because you know you haven't gotten rid of your
Speaker 1: huge ass ego.
Speaker 3: Dude, I'll be like, well, if we're all one, then
Speaker 3: i'm you and I'm also a God.
Speaker 1: But it's it's it's really delusional, and this is this
Speaker 1: is and I don't know if it's that these things
Speaker 1: are actually inherently bad, right, because it's I mean, all right,
Speaker 1: so looking at like God created everything and he created
Speaker 1: things good, but is it the cultural context.
Speaker 3: Of us you put everything in your mouth like God's.
Speaker 1: Right, right, You're not supposed to put everything in your
Speaker 1: mouth right for sure. But but but it's so funny
Speaker 1: because it's like there's this cultural dynamic that's constantly reinforcing
Speaker 1: this and pushing people towards these beliefs of this this
Speaker 1: like gnostic religion like you mentioned, and so yeah, the film,
Speaker 1: the film is very gnostic, the Renegade film. So anyways,
Speaker 1: that what happens next to that he gets wounded.
Speaker 3: And then that it is but I think what trips
Speaker 3: a lot of people up even with gnostic type movies
Speaker 3: or TV shows that have spiritual themes or you know,
Speaker 3: twin peaks, they'll show you a lot of things that
Speaker 3: are kind of accurate in terms of like the spiritual world.
Speaker 5: I think, right, so when you're when he's on this
Speaker 5: this this.
Speaker 3: Journey, the spiritual trip, and he's seeing into the spiritual realm,
Speaker 3: I think there's truth to that. I mean again, if
Speaker 3: you've had bad trips, if you've had good trips, if
Speaker 3: you have done that stuff, you know, you can see
Speaker 3: how people come to that conclusion. I was just on
Speaker 3: a podcast the other day and it was a dude
Speaker 3: talking about trips and he was like how he said,
Speaker 3: I think that it's all symbolic.
Speaker 5: And it's just your mind creating it all man.
Speaker 3: And my argument against that is, if it's only your
Speaker 3: mind just randomly creating the symbols and the archetypes, if
Speaker 3: there's not a spiritual reality to it, then why does
Speaker 3: every tribe or every shamanic tradition have the same patterns
Speaker 3: in their religious.
Speaker 5: Rights and rituals.
Speaker 3: Why does every time you go into this other realm
Speaker 3: and you get dissected by the gods and then you
Speaker 3: get put back together and you come back with a
Speaker 3: spirit that helps you your avatar, familiar spirit.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's always the same process of initiation.
Speaker 3: I mean, not every single detail, but the basic pattern
Speaker 3: Merkia Iliada has shown in his study of shamanism.
Speaker 1: All over the world.
Speaker 3: Why is that it wouldn't be I mean, if it
Speaker 3: was just everybody's mind just making up whatever, it wouldn't
Speaker 3: be that way.
Speaker 2: There would be about this too.
Speaker 1: People people go into these things and they'll see the
Speaker 1: same thing with that they're not communicating it with each
Speaker 1: other verbally, but they are having similar and actually having
Speaker 1: nonverbal communication. And what they were studying, they're trying to
Speaker 1: figure out, like are there these like telepathic abilities that
Speaker 1: these are giving people? And they even named a molecule
Speaker 1: molecule telepathene. Telepathene. What are these molecules? It's in ayahuasca.
Speaker 1: So it's these things they do have they do open
Speaker 1: people up to something that I believe is absolutely real. Uh,
Speaker 1: And that's why there's so many similar experiences there. Now
Speaker 1: the question becomes, what are these people really doing there
Speaker 1: and what's going on now? I mean, that's that's a
Speaker 1: lot deeper of a subject, right, Like, what what is
Speaker 1: it that they're experiencing? Is it just fragments of your
Speaker 1: psyche or whatever, or is this like these actual demonic
Speaker 1: spiritual realms?
Speaker 3: Right and well, and as we're going to see not
Speaker 3: just here but even in Altered States with its completely
Speaker 3: also gnostic Luciferian perspective, there's all the traits and characteristics
Speaker 3: of something demonic present, and it's just ignored.
Speaker 5: Everyone just ignores this.
Speaker 3: Like I remember there's a dude one time he went
Speaker 3: with the two buddies of mine from high school. I
Speaker 3: didn't go with them on this, but there's they went
Speaker 3: to Europe on a just a backpacking thing to have
Speaker 3: fun back when they were in their twenties, and they
Speaker 3: were standing at a hostel and they bought some shrooms
Speaker 3: from somebody being idiots, and one of the dudes had
Speaker 3: a like a violent just he went he was trying
Speaker 3: to eat my buddy, no joke, like he was attacking him,
Speaker 3: trying to bite him, acting like a monster, just like
Speaker 3: William Hurt will act like acting like an ape, acting
Speaker 3: like a hungry eight great eight right. And then he
Speaker 3: came out of this, He came out of this experience
Speaker 3: and had he had no recollection of this, And my
Speaker 3: other buddy was like, dude, you just tried to eat
Speaker 3: me For the last forty five minut you were growling
Speaker 3: and grunting like an animal.
Speaker 1: That or did he ever recover from that? Some people
Speaker 1: go through this and they like, we have those blackouts
Speaker 1: and then they're always a little bit off.
Speaker 5: I will tell you that this person.
Speaker 3: Did not end up well, I don't think so. Yeah,
Speaker 3: these people can't be healed from any of these kinds
Speaker 3: of things. But you're right that if you go back
Speaker 3: to John Marx's book M k Ultro Search for Entering Candidate,
Speaker 3: he has a chapter where he talks about Eldus Huxley
Speaker 3: discussing the fact that they were really interested in the
Speaker 3: anthea gens and the shrooms and all that because it
Speaker 3: had the effect of creating dissociation.
Speaker 1: So they called it psychotomimetic drugs.
Speaker 3: They were looking for schizo inducing drug and in fact,
Speaker 3: when we get to Alter States at the beginning, that's
Speaker 3: what William Hurt even says. He's like, I'm looking for
Speaker 3: the perfect schizo inducing, you know, explanation drugs, Like he
Speaker 3: wants to be able to control and explain that experience.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, no, and then this is what's so now
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm also not saying that people can't have
Speaker 1: beneficial experiences and maybe become better people after this. But
Speaker 1: is that because there's some magical you know, shamanic realm
Speaker 1: and the shamans are healing you. I would say that's
Speaker 1: not the case. I'd say that's because of the grace
Speaker 1: of God. By the grace of God, people can be healed, right,
Speaker 1: I mean it's not I think some of that. That's
Speaker 1: why I said earlier some of the best sometimes those
Speaker 1: bad trips that people have are the ones where they
Speaker 1: actually see how screwed up they are and actually see
Speaker 1: really what's going on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, good things can come out of bad, but that
Speaker 3: doesn't mean I do bad to bring about good things.
Speaker 1: That's crazy exactly. But this is like the constantly trying
Speaker 1: to induce this state and then becoming obsessed with it.
Speaker 1: I think you see a lot of people and this
Speaker 1: in the film Renegade Blueberry or whatever, the guy this
Speaker 1: is his mode of healing.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So in the beginning, the girl, the prostitute that he
Speaker 1: goes and see, she gives them the cross, right. The
Speaker 1: girl who asked him if he believes in God, which
Speaker 1: is a really I mean it's it's a funny thing
Speaker 1: because this is kind of the new Western mythos about God.
Speaker 1: Is like it's this impersonal.
Speaker 2: What was it?
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's more of.
Speaker 5: A yeah, it's the false.
Speaker 1: As if you believe in God.
Speaker 5: You don't need a person on God.
Speaker 3: This isn't the godd'll looking for, obi Wan, it's the force.
Speaker 5: Obi Wan. Actually, thank you.
Speaker 1: I don't like gay as movies like Star Wars. That
Speaker 1: was nothing.
Speaker 3: That's funny because I've been telepathically emailing to you in
Speaker 3: my mind that I think that your name is Queer
Speaker 3: Gerbil in Indian.
Speaker 2: So I've noticed that you.
Speaker 5: We were trying to figure out your Indian name, and
Speaker 5: I had some good ones.
Speaker 3: I like Queer Gerbil the best, though, but maybe I
Speaker 3: like that Gerbil.
Speaker 1: I knew a guy in college that people used to
Speaker 1: call Gerbil, and they called them Gurabil because whenever somebody
Speaker 1: got acid, they would make him eat it first to
Speaker 1: test it.
Speaker 8: How messed up?
Speaker 2: Is that right?
Speaker 1: But this guy, like this was a fun You know,
Speaker 1: I'm eighteen years old and I remember that these people,
Speaker 1: they would they would pick.
Speaker 2: On this dude.
Speaker 1: Right, it was a funny dynamic. So all these people,
Speaker 1: they're everyone's tripping out, everyone's taking mushrooms and doing stuff
Speaker 1: like that, and but it's it's like seventh grade power
Speaker 1: dynamics at the same time, while these people so extrapolated
Speaker 1: that with a bunch of you know, busted up people
Speaker 1: who are thirty forty years old and who have learned
Speaker 1: even more manipulation techniques over the years and weird social
Speaker 1: games that they play with people and just more demonically
Speaker 1: charged over the years. And then they get ahold of
Speaker 1: these drugs and started ministering them to other people in
Speaker 1: a group setting right where there's weird power dynamics and
Speaker 1: you can you know, people are inebriated, people worship you
Speaker 1: a little bit. They think you're some like, you know,
Speaker 1: bridge to God. And that's that's kind of what you
Speaker 1: see in the uh in the plant medicine community, right,
Speaker 1: just basically a bunch of yeah with yeah, seventh graders,
Speaker 1: Like imagine like all the kids you knew in seventh
Speaker 1: grade who've been given very very powerful mind altering drugs.
Speaker 1: That's that's kind of like the the so yeah seventh graders, right,
Speaker 1: Like that's like the level of a development of most people.
Speaker 1: Now you know what I'm saying. It's like they're there.
Speaker 1: They're still the same as they were when they were
Speaker 1: like thirteen fourteen most people.
Speaker 3: Right, Oh yeah, definitely Evan seventeen seventy six. For July fourth,
Speaker 3: he says, I'm so glad that Tristan is on. I
Speaker 3: need him to promote my plant based Italian cured meat alternative.
Speaker 3: We call it a salame lagume o salame lagume salama.
Speaker 5: Nice.
Speaker 2: So what what? What? All?
Speaker 1: Right? So what else happened with this this movie?
Speaker 3: So they uh, let me, let me read a couple
Speaker 3: of the super chats and then waking back to so
Speaker 3: Alex Tremo. He Alex sends five bucks and he says,
Speaker 3: I donated because Jay told me to.
Speaker 5: Well, then donate again.
Speaker 1: Right, that's not enough.
Speaker 3: Donate your mama's savings, donate your grandpappy's golden musket from
Speaker 3: the Civil.
Speaker 1: War, bro orgage your house, maybe.
Speaker 3: Splitteth since three dollars, and he says people use DMT
Speaker 3: in pagan context. Is it possible that DMT could be
Speaker 3: used to open up one two angelic influences? Yes, because
Speaker 3: demons are angels bro uh or could you gain godly insight?
Speaker 5: Again?
Speaker 3: We don't want to do bad to bring about good, right,
Speaker 3: Those are not the ordained means to go about getting enlightenment.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 5: You will gain far more enlightenment.
Speaker 3: Reading your Bible than you will trying to speak to
Speaker 3: Terrence McKenna and the machine clockwork, queer elves.
Speaker 1: You're not going to keep You're not going to keep
Speaker 1: these uh. You think you get these like great revelations.
Speaker 2: You don't.
Speaker 1: It's you don't keep this stuff. And it's it's more
Speaker 1: feeling that It's like your feelings get played.
Speaker 5: I remember one of my trips.
Speaker 3: I thought I was having like the most profound Star
Speaker 3: Wars philosophy insight. I would watch Star Wars and I
Speaker 3: was tripping, and I drew a bunch of stuff and
Speaker 3: wrote some notes. And then the next day I looked
Speaker 3: at my notes and it was like I had drawn uh,
Speaker 3: Chewbacca with giant eyes and it said Ewok. And so
Speaker 3: my my brilliant genius thought was that Chewbacca was like
Speaker 3: a Harry and the Henderson's version of an Ewok.
Speaker 1: That was my It's like if the Ewoks got acid
Speaker 1: and and they got more, they hyper accelerated their evolutions
Speaker 1: through acid, it would become Chewbaca.
Speaker 5: That's it.
Speaker 3: So if you're looking for insight into you know, Yetty's,
Speaker 3: then you want to you want to be tripping. But
Speaker 3: other than that, you're not gonna get anything profound. You're
Speaker 3: gonna get the same old crap that every damn shaman
Speaker 3: has ever said.
Speaker 1: One bro, it's like, no, you come back to like
Speaker 1: everything's okay for like three days, and then you're right
Speaker 1: back to where you were and remember you're.
Speaker 5: Like, you don't remember.
Speaker 3: By the way, William Hurt, he didn't remember anything.
Speaker 5: He's like, I remember what I was doing? What happened?
Speaker 3: He's having mental breakdowns, grunting, acting like a possessed.
Speaker 1: Ape, scorpions and stuff.
Speaker 5: Right, Uh so I'm sorry, So back to Blueberry Okay?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so so he what happened is so he got
Speaker 1: nailed and then Michael Madison's character comes in and he's
Speaker 1: seeking spiritual power.
Speaker 10: He's trying to find the white Sorcerer, right, So you
Speaker 10: got the white man, right versus red man and Vincent Gallows,
Speaker 10: not the rapper, right, Vincent Gallows in between and not
Speaker 10: the tobacco.
Speaker 3: Naw, why do I keep saying that who's Vincent.
Speaker 11: Don't even.
Speaker 2: That man.
Speaker 1: Vincent Lewis, Julia Lewis's daddy is like some sort of
Speaker 1: a guy in the town. I mean, every everything that
Speaker 1: happens here is pretty much inconsequential until they get to
Speaker 1: the end of the film, right. They're all chasing the
Speaker 1: treasure or whatever the.
Speaker 3: Look this treasure and it ends up being a sorcerer's battle.
Speaker 1: Yes, so they have to go to the Holy Mountains
Speaker 1: and all the Indians are like, no, we can't go.
Speaker 1: We have to let them go.
Speaker 3: Now, it's like an indigenous Saramon versus Gandolf.
Speaker 1: Basically he has to find like the secret cave where
Speaker 1: all the ayahuasca is basically, right, So Vincent Gasel dives
Speaker 1: into a big pond and then comes up in this
Speaker 1: underground cave, right, like goes into.
Speaker 3: The underworld, you know water portals, going through the waterboards
Speaker 3: and swims into this thing.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. He leaves his hat like his hat's floating
Speaker 1: in the water, and Julia luisies his hat. He's like,
Speaker 1: where's my man? So he goes in there and he
Speaker 1: finds Michael Madson's already there, and then Michael Madson takes
Speaker 1: like a thing made out of bone with like some
Speaker 1: indigenous stuff on it and drinks this I don't know,
Speaker 1: probably made with a human bone, and there's like petrified
Speaker 1: indians in there and stuff, and he drinks the ayahuasca
Speaker 1: and lays down on the ground. And then then what
Speaker 1: like his little buddy was there too, the indigenous shamans there.
Speaker 1: He's like, ha, he's sitting there just tripping out, waiting,
Speaker 1: like that's just what he's doing. He just hangs out
Speaker 1: there and waits for the white men to come and
Speaker 1: have their sorcerer battles with the ayahuasca. So at this point,
Speaker 1: like it doesn't make any sense, but it's kind of
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's it's kind of interesting the way
Speaker 1: it's shot and stuff. Some of the cinematography is all right.
Speaker 1: Then Vincent Cassel drinks it, lays down and they have
Speaker 1: a sorcerer battle in the ether.
Speaker 5: Exactly right by the way.
Speaker 3: So Vincent gallow is like a grosser look looking Vincent Cassel.
Speaker 3: They look they look similar, They're both about the same.
Speaker 3: They both look nasty, except.
Speaker 1: That those looks like they would be chasing after Juliet Lewis.
Speaker 5: They look Vincent Gallo looks like a uh a dead hipster.
Speaker 3: Basically, I'll show you what I mean so you'll see
Speaker 3: why I was getting confused.
Speaker 5: So there is Casselle.
Speaker 1: Vincent Casselle looks like a like a Premie Matthew McConaughey.
Speaker 5: Yes, he looks like yeah.
Speaker 3: See, I mean they're both kind of they're both looking
Speaker 3: pretty gross.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I can't see I know. Okay, did you
Speaker 1: think maybe if I took ano d MT i'd be
Speaker 1: able to see him right now?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just take my word for it, dude, all right,
Speaker 5: all right.
Speaker 1: So they fall into the ether together and they have
Speaker 1: a battle, and then Vincent Cassell sees what really happened
Speaker 1: in the shootout thing, and what happened was gasp, Vincent
Speaker 1: Cassell actually shot the hooker on accident. Likes, yeah, Madson
Speaker 1: shoots him in the in the arm, and then he
Speaker 1: jerks away and shoots the prostitute and she dies and
Speaker 1: it's all his fault and he couldn't deal with it,
Speaker 1: so he suppress the memory. But the medicine helped him
Speaker 1: to see the memories. But there's no it's funny because
Speaker 1: it's just like, oh, if you just see it and
Speaker 1: you're high enough, then you're gonna be healed from it.
Speaker 1: But where where is this healing coming from?
Speaker 2: What? What is that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like if you remember there was a there
Speaker 3: was a stage where Vincent Gallo had to do the
Speaker 3: trip with his trailer tears shaman buddy there who helped
Speaker 3: him write. He sang that song and it like he
Speaker 3: pulled the the big roach insect thing out of him.
Speaker 5: You remember that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because his songs get to they control the spirits.
Speaker 1: And this is another kind of aspect of kind of
Speaker 1: the this is I mean the Crowley stuff too, right,
Speaker 1: like using.
Speaker 3: That that's actually an ancient Hindu idea that uh and
Speaker 3: Buddhists have it too, that you can It's kind of
Speaker 3: like somatics. You know how cymatics the sound produces certain
Speaker 3: geometric forms. Sounds do notes. So the idea here is
Speaker 3: that if when you sing certain notes, you're invoking certain powers. Uh,
Speaker 3: you're you're kind of bringing them into David I types, vibration,
Speaker 3: vibrational reality, fall of sense reality.
Speaker 5: It's old vibrations, this kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: So you got when you sing that note, you're you're
Speaker 3: bringing that spirit into reality.
Speaker 1: But who teaches them that those same spirits. So they
Speaker 1: go into these states, they get taught this by the
Speaker 1: spirit they believe. They usually believe their ancestral spirits, right
Speaker 1: like in the Shamans, and they get taught this by
Speaker 1: you know, their their parents will initiate.
Speaker 3: Tristan likes me, Tristan's really get Tristan's like just me right,
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff exactly.
Speaker 1: That's actually that's a really powerful invocation. That's very very strong.
Speaker 1: It might conjure up my chatterbait.
Speaker 3: My secret your old account be popping up chatterbait account
Speaker 3: pop Tristan's old accounts.
Speaker 1: They give you say bloody Mary fifty times if you sing,
Speaker 1: if you chant that twenty times, you see my old
Speaker 1: chatter by in the in the underground cave area right there,
Speaker 1: there is like a petrified like a mummy. There's a
Speaker 1: mummy in there, which I think is a really interesting
Speaker 1: thing because you've got this connection to ancestral spirits and
Speaker 1: this idea of the spirit of the ancestors is what
Speaker 1: we're contacting, and our ancestral spirits are informing us and
Speaker 1: guiding us. And a lot of these Shamans believe that
Speaker 1: their ancestral spirits are the ones that give them their powers.
Speaker 3: Right, by the way, since they all believe in trickster spirits,
Speaker 3: why does anybody believe any spirit that they're contacting.
Speaker 1: All the rest of our trick and spirits. But their
Speaker 1: ancestral spirits are real though.
Speaker 3: You know, they tell me to you know, grab my
Speaker 3: family's butts and to sacrifice.
Speaker 1: And they come as like jaguars and stuff. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I know it's my father because it was a jaguar.
Speaker 1: It's like, wait, what these people say stuff?
Speaker 5: They call him little jaguar.
Speaker 1: He was a little jaguar. But I mean it's it's
Speaker 1: really sad, like so a lot of these people you
Speaker 1: talk to them, and it's when we talked about the
Speaker 1: initial initiation in this involved the fracturing of the psyche, right,
Speaker 1: and these drugs have always been used as initiation ritual tools,
Speaker 1: and the ritual setting is what really tends to set
Speaker 1: up people, like what a Timothy Leary said, like set
Speaker 1: and setting right, And that's that's what these people were
Speaker 1: obsessed with ritual magic because that's a way of inducing
Speaker 1: a specific spiritual set and setting through like invocation, through chanting,
Speaker 1: through action and whatever. Putting the peep in the poo
Speaker 1: poo and all this stuff. Jay knows more about this.
Speaker 1: You can ask him about like exactly those type of things.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's about it's about power.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and when you ask me all those things, I'm
Speaker 3: just gonna link you to Tristan's old accounts.
Speaker 5: He doesn't want people knowing about that he mentioned.
Speaker 3: So that'll teach you directly. You can see visual aids
Speaker 3: about all that.
Speaker 1: And that's actually what the occusual. That was my chatter name.
Speaker 1: It's visual aids.
Speaker 3: With aids, visual visual h plus aids.
Speaker 1: That was my that's my underground name. That was my
Speaker 1: stripper name, Little Aids. That that's the best rapper name,
Speaker 1: Little Aids.
Speaker 3: He doesn't he's gotten the aids, but he's cute about
Speaker 3: it because it's ads.
Speaker 1: So they're in there and they've got the they've got
Speaker 1: the mummy of their ancestors, which and it's kind of funny,
Speaker 1: and there's also they showed some other kind of symbols.
Speaker 1: Of course, there's a triangle with a little man like
Speaker 1: meditating the triangle as they showed. And yeah, so then
Speaker 1: they battle it out. He sees the truth and then
Speaker 1: Michael Madsen's character dies because he takes back his power
Speaker 1: or something.
Speaker 5: Yes, uh, let's see hell Bug. I don't know what
Speaker 5: the hell bug enters him.
Speaker 3: The snake tricks instead of the Matrix. There's a magic
Speaker 3: battle trauma. I was gonna sing a Matrix Indian song,
Speaker 3: but I couldn't please do how the Indian song went,
Speaker 3: but it was I was laughing when I was listening
Speaker 3: to because it was funny. But now I forget.
Speaker 5: No I could remember remember Enigma. This movie is like Enigma, right,
Speaker 5: return to inno sense? Hey, yeah, hi, Hi, remember that.
Speaker 1: That song? Huh that's what I don't know that song?
Speaker 1: You're about a boomer.
Speaker 5: That's what this movie is like. If if Enigma was
Speaker 5: tripping acid, that's this movie.
Speaker 1: It's like if you you gave acid to uh to
Speaker 1: uh not's very far. That's very farthing. That's like Western
Speaker 1: themed so cow theme park. That's very far on acid.
Speaker 1: That's the end. Right, Well then you then it's like
Speaker 1: juliette Lewis is swimming in a pool and Vincent Cassel
Speaker 1: is swimming towards He gets liberated and now he can
Speaker 1: finally love.
Speaker 3: Juliet, liberated from the chick. But now he finds real
Speaker 3: love I see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, before he's liberated and the spirit of the Prostitute
Speaker 1: comes and kisses him and releases him from the bondage,
Speaker 1: and he takes his power back from Eagle shaman man
Speaker 1: and he goes in the pool and swims towards Juliette
Speaker 1: Lewis's spread eagle bush and and the last one of
Speaker 1: the last shots, it's just Juliet Lewis like spread eagle
Speaker 1: with her. Let's going right up towards her her Johnny.
Speaker 5: Juliet Lewis doing the eagle.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So if you want to see Juliet Lewis's spread
Speaker 1: Eagle bush, you can watch this movie, or you could
Speaker 1: or you could just go to Nasberry for him on acid.
Speaker 1: You probably see Juliet Lewis's bush there too.
Speaker 3: This movie reminded me kind of of The Fountain a
Speaker 3: little bit, remember that with Hugh Jackman and Rachel Weiss,
Speaker 3: the Darren Aronofsky film, which is a weird mix of
Speaker 3: ancient Aztec philosophy religion with Cobbalism with zen.
Speaker 5: Do you remember The Fountain?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think I like The Found a little more. I
Speaker 1: think that's probably better fill.
Speaker 5: It's a better film.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's a better film.
Speaker 2: Wasn't so bad.
Speaker 1: It's like I'm making fun of it, but actually as
Speaker 1: a as a you know, artsy kind of concept movie,
Speaker 1: it's not so bad.
Speaker 5: Acting's all right, I'll give this movie. Uh three three scalps?
Speaker 5: What do you give it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: The scalp scene was pretty gross with Digimon, remember.
Speaker 1: That the black dude.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was kind of gross.
Speaker 1: I was like, I prayed to God that I could
Speaker 1: come back. That's the only other guy that mentioned God,
Speaker 1: the only guy that mentions God in the whole movie.
Speaker 1: The second person mentions God. First is a prosstitute that gives.
Speaker 5: Him the neck name Pokemon handsuit exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 11: And then that guy who he prayed to God that
Speaker 11: he would go get revenge, Yes, and then he failed
Speaker 11: killing failed by evil Michael Madson.
Speaker 3: The white Man, Black Sorcerer, White Black Sorcerer.
Speaker 1: There were a few good shots, like, there were a
Speaker 1: few there's some good like cinematography in it. I think
Speaker 1: some of the shots of Michael Madson being creepy were
Speaker 1: pretty good. The shot of that guy on the table
Speaker 1: and he's acting like a bird or something, and the
Speaker 1: Indian witch is kind of tripping out in her house
Speaker 1: a little bit.
Speaker 3: And that pot of of d MT salsa they had
Speaker 3: that was pretty.
Speaker 1: Wild, wasn't it funny?
Speaker 2: They?
Speaker 1: Yeah that, No, that's in the Altered States, dude, Altered States,
Speaker 1: because there's something really funny about that too. Altered States.
Speaker 1: Let's get to that one. That one's hilarious. This movie
Speaker 1: is not so funny. It's kind of more like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's it's it's a little bit less hokey
Speaker 1: than Altered States, and it presents that psychic world in
Speaker 1: a more honest way, I'd say, in that it shows
Speaker 1: the spiritual power dynamic that what it's actually really about
Speaker 1: for most of those people, how it's about power and
Speaker 1: spiritual battle and spiritual warfare essentially. But of course it's
Speaker 1: it kind of presents the psychedelics as some sort of
Speaker 1: a savior, which they're obviously not. I mean, there's nothing
Speaker 1: inherent about going into this hyper sensitive, hyper suggestible state
Speaker 1: that's inherently healing, and a lot of it can be
Speaker 1: very very dangerous through So there are any kids out
Speaker 1: there trying to get the Ayahuascas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, all right, let's move to Altered States. We
Speaker 3: got a super chat from Densi Diaz for twenty dollars.
Speaker 3: He says, is the father personal or is it the
Speaker 3: son and the spirit? Personal refers to hypostasis, and so
Speaker 3: each of those are hypostasis, so each are personal. They
Speaker 3: all share the quality or characteristic of person who until
Speaker 3: all three are uniquely personal. They're unique hypostaces. So let's
Speaker 3: go to altered States. Now, this one is funny, dude,
Speaker 3: This one was cracking me up. It was even dumber
Speaker 3: than I remembered it being from two years ago.
Speaker 5: I had a friend that used to drink.
Speaker 3: A lot, and he would when we watched this, like
Speaker 3: five or six years ago. He said, I hate William
Speaker 3: Hurt's face. And I didn't understand that until I watched
Speaker 3: it again and I realized that he's got a lot
Speaker 3: of face. There's too much face going on with William Hurt.
Speaker 5: There's just too much.
Speaker 2: But he's got right and uh, the.
Speaker 1: Movie starts out with a distorted image of his face.
Speaker 5: And maybe that's why my friend said that.
Speaker 1: Let's see starts out first shot William Hurt's gross face
Speaker 1: and a weird tank looking like he's in the game BioShock.
Speaker 5: BioShock.
Speaker 1: He said, the BioShock tank.
Speaker 5: He kind of looks like my dad too.
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to be anti dad here, but I
Speaker 3: don't know. It's a little weird, a little bit of
Speaker 3: William Hurt face going on.
Speaker 2: Look of that?
Speaker 1: What do y'all think Jajus revealed has already bloodline?
Speaker 5: Is that too much face for y'all going on? Or
Speaker 5: what do you think?
Speaker 3: He looks like Dick Cheney now he used to he
Speaker 3: used to be a young handsome man. Now he looks
Speaker 3: like like Dick Cheney. But anyway, I hurt William Hurt's face.
Speaker 3: Somebody's William Hate's face, William Hate. Uh So this is
Speaker 3: a movie about loosely John C.
Speaker 5: Lily, Yes, John C.
Speaker 3: Lily, and he is, of course, if you've not listened
Speaker 3: to the talks, we're gonna presuppose that you have.
Speaker 5: Go listen to my talks on John C.
Speaker 2: Lily.
Speaker 5: We just did one last week.
Speaker 3: Float tanks, implannable micro chips, dolphin love. We got hoping
Speaker 3: dolphin right here with us, and mind control, and.
Speaker 5: That's what John C. Lily was about.
Speaker 3: Dissociation, float tanks, all of that mess openly and I
Speaker 3: confirmed it with his biography. He talks about it all
Speaker 3: in his biography. It's not speculations, it's confirmed now. So
Speaker 3: I'm sure Tristan you heard the famous, momentous, famous Alex
Speaker 3: Jones on Joe Rogan podcasts. I don't know if you
Speaker 3: heard those three yea, remember how.
Speaker 5: Crazy that was?
Speaker 2: Remember that for sure?
Speaker 3: Well, when you go read John C. Lily, I thought,
Speaker 3: I mean, I was like, where do they say this?
Speaker 2: I know John C.
Speaker 3: Lily talks about some weird stuff in his book Programming
Speaker 3: the Human Biocomputer, but I couldn't. I didn't know that
Speaker 3: He's got entire chapters about talking to the aliens and
Speaker 3: the elves.
Speaker 1: I like, how was the over of his book looks
Speaker 1: like an L. Rod Hubbard book? Like this is totally
Speaker 1: looks like this is diabomic.
Speaker 5: He looks like a psycho. He looks like psycho.
Speaker 3: Not he looks like like I said, like he would
Speaker 3: be eating shrimp out of a dumpster.
Speaker 1: He looks children. Do you have any kids?
Speaker 5: I think he does. Yes, his daughter is probably gonna
Speaker 5: try to have me killed.
Speaker 1: Now what are they doing?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: What kind of what kind of people did his children
Speaker 1: grow to be?
Speaker 3: I think there's a picture of his daughter in here.
Speaker 3: I can't remember but she's half dolphin because he oh
Speaker 3: so he created an aerial. Basically, if you've seen that.
Speaker 1: Movie, yeah, that was a documentary right a little earlier.
Speaker 5: That's about John C. Lily and his daughter.
Speaker 3: Got another super chat here before DC Customs, he sends
Speaker 3: a lone star Texas himself says, are we are weed
Speaker 3: and alcohol.
Speaker 5: Avoid it entirely from an orthodox perspective. Only on Sundays.
Speaker 3: The rest of the days, you are required to have
Speaker 3: a certain B A C blood alcohol content levels all day.
Speaker 3: You got to have point You got to keep it
Speaker 3: at point eight eight symbolic numbers all day long, or
Speaker 3: else you're going to hades bro. DC Customs sent ten
Speaker 3: bucks and he says, I send this because at Jay said, Grandpappy.
Speaker 3: Is that a word you never heard before? It means
Speaker 3: your grandfather. That's what I meant by that word, if
Speaker 3: you didn't know. Also, Little Aids up there in the
Speaker 3: corner needs to become a recurring character.
Speaker 5: What's the Little Aids?
Speaker 3: Song, grills, music videos, all of it. We need it
Speaker 3: all fleshed it, flesh it out, flesh light it out,
Speaker 3: more like it with Tristan up there. The possibilities are numerous.
Speaker 5: Little aids.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to follow that up.
Speaker 5: I just start writing some rhymes.
Speaker 1: Bro, you have to, I can't. I don't want to
Speaker 1: drop some of my best I'm not going to give
Speaker 1: all you peasants my freestyle. You guys don't get any
Speaker 1: little aids today.
Speaker 5: Tristan is gonna have to spit some bars out.
Speaker 1: My bars can't be split right now? All right, I
Speaker 1: need we need more super chants. You guys give it.
Speaker 1: We get one hundred dollars super chants, A little aids,
Speaker 1: my spit some thank you.
Speaker 5: I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: How much?
Speaker 2: What are we at now?
Speaker 5: Let's see?
Speaker 1: We got.
Speaker 2: So sweet?
Speaker 5: Almost up to one hundred. We're getting there.
Speaker 3: But uh so, let's get back to Alter States, because
Speaker 3: this is about the fun part.
Speaker 1: This stuff is really speaking of aids. This film will
Speaker 1: give it to you.
Speaker 3: Yes, William William Hate will give you the aids, give
Speaker 3: you the mind aids.
Speaker 1: They didn't discover aids until after this movie came out.
Speaker 1: That's I mean, that is kind of kind of interesting.
Speaker 3: Did you did you notice that there's a similar theme
Speaker 3: between both movies of the Trauma of the death Right.
Speaker 3: So William Hurt discusses when he goes to that party
Speaker 3: and he hits on that chick and uh, they're they're
Speaker 3: having there making kuitas together, and.
Speaker 1: He well, how about what he's hitting on her?
Speaker 3: Though, Well, that's what I was gonna say that that
Speaker 3: was funny because you know that this damn dude.
Speaker 5: Look at this, he didn't have no game. You think
Speaker 5: that dude had game. William Hurd just busts up and
Speaker 5: he's like, who want to sleep with you? Todight, right?
Speaker 5: You think this dude had He's like, I want you
Speaker 5: to come home with me?
Speaker 1: Do you think this is like I have a roommate.
Speaker 1: He's like, well, we could be on the couch.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: She's like, well what if we fall off? And then
Speaker 1: it's just and then they're just sweaty quitas on the couch, right.
Speaker 3: And then he freaks out in the middle of the
Speaker 3: stuff and he has a trauma memory of his dad
Speaker 3: dying when he was sixteen, which is which is actually
Speaker 3: kind of accurate because do you remember in in the
Speaker 3: that initial sequence, he sees a bunch of religious imagery,
Speaker 3: He sees, uh, the lamb of He.
Speaker 5: Says, I saw Jesus and I feel bad, right, John C.
Speaker 5: Lily actually says all that.
Speaker 3: He says that when he was younger, he wanted to
Speaker 3: be a priest. He thought about religion. He wanted to
Speaker 3: sacrifice himself for some cause. And as he became older
Speaker 3: and became an atheist, he says, I want to be
Speaker 3: a martyr for science.
Speaker 5: That's what he says.
Speaker 1: And it's the same story as Mobi. Moby wanted to
Speaker 1: be a priest and then he became a musician. But
Speaker 1: now he's he's been saved.
Speaker 3: Because he sacrificed himself for the animals.
Speaker 1: He's a vegan. He has vegan face tattoos and stuff
Speaker 1: that like his animal rights tattooed on his arms. He
Speaker 1: has like like soy prison tattoos all over I swear
Speaker 1: he has a vegan straight edged. He has a vegan
Speaker 1: teardrop like it says VX right next to his eye.
Speaker 5: Huh.
Speaker 3: That means he the only the only thing he's killed
Speaker 3: is his own manhood. That's the only thing he could kill.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So Moby and William hurt in this movie. They
Speaker 1: both have a similar background. They both lost their faith
Speaker 1: young due.
Speaker 3: To well yeah, but so he sees the religious imagery.
Speaker 3: He sees the seven eyes on the Lamb, the Lamb
Speaker 3: slag before the foundation of the world, and that's supposed
Speaker 3: to represent him moving away from his Christian imagery.
Speaker 1: And he was all spooked by this stuff, right, but
Speaker 1: it was like a demonic goat lamb right Like, it
Speaker 1: was just like very.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were trying to present it in a scary way,
Speaker 3: right like. And so then he goes to this boomer
Speaker 3: party with all the scientists, right, he's at this they're
Speaker 3: playing the doors, right, they're playing that song at singing.
Speaker 5: Actually this is the end.
Speaker 1: And he was the actor that plays his friend with
Speaker 1: the beard, the Jewish guy.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say that guy is funny because he's
Speaker 3: the science guy in every seventies movie. He's he plays
Speaker 3: science seventies science man in like five different movies, including
Speaker 3: John That's what it is. He's in like space, he's
Speaker 3: space science man as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely so, he but he's not half.
Speaker 3: As annoying as southern seventies science man. That dude was
Speaker 3: getting on my nerves, but he would not.
Speaker 1: Well, he's like a hard empiricist, right.
Speaker 3: He screams yes, and he screams every.
Speaker 8: This is impossible.
Speaker 1: If you come out of there, omov.
Speaker 8: You come out of there as a monkey.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but he goes.
Speaker 3: Uh anyway, So the whole point that what's interesting there
Speaker 3: is that there's a connection between the sexuality and the
Speaker 3: and the occult. And he even makes this point, and
Speaker 3: she later says that she's like, even everything with you
Speaker 3: is this mystical journey of magic and a cult or
Speaker 3: something like that.
Speaker 1: It's like you've been making love to you. It's like
Speaker 1: a mystical it's just a mystical experience.
Speaker 5: Why can't we just deep?
Speaker 1: You're too deep for me love?
Speaker 3: And that's because guess who wrote the introduction to this
Speaker 3: Do you remember who?
Speaker 1: Did you hear who?
Speaker 5: Old Tim Leary wrote it? And you know who?
Speaker 3: He says the greatest person of the twentieth century is
Speaker 3: next to John cy Lily.
Speaker 5: No Wonder. So it is sex magic, right.
Speaker 3: So going back and watching this, I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: there is this subtle Crowley theme here, No Wonder exactly.
Speaker 1: And he during the sexual intercourse scene, he's he's dripping
Speaker 1: out having ecstatic visions of like satanic loose vary and sacrifices.
Speaker 3: So he admitted, by the way, and he do you
Speaker 3: remember when he amits her that he's a nut he's like,
Speaker 3: I'm insane. I hope you don't hope you don't mind, right,
Speaker 3: And she's all into it. She's like, oh, but you're smart,
Speaker 3: you're insane, and.
Speaker 2: She's just so.
Speaker 1: He's on this journey to to basically intellectualize the spiritual realm, right, Like,
Speaker 1: he wants to figure out, he wants to find the
Speaker 1: god molecule. He wants to find out, he wants to
Speaker 1: measure the spirituality. It's this empirical boomer worldview, comebin with
Speaker 1: the psychedelic boomer worldview, and he ends up becoming the
Speaker 1: uber boomer in the end.
Speaker 3: Yes, he's got that seventies dad game. He's spitting that
Speaker 3: seventies dad game to become the seventies uber boomer.
Speaker 2: And he does.
Speaker 1: And I like the timeline how it just suddenly skips
Speaker 1: ahead seven years and everything looks the same. It's still
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty. It's like seven years later, we have children,
Speaker 1: And there's like five lines of dialogue in between him
Speaker 1: meeting his wife and then.
Speaker 3: Do you remember when he leaned over his dad as
Speaker 3: his dad was dying words, do.
Speaker 1: You remember what his dad said, like it's all terrible, terrible, Yeah.
Speaker 5: And it was predicting the movie.
Speaker 1: That was a prediction, that's.
Speaker 3: Met, that's let's She says, why does everything have to
Speaker 3: be a mystical experience with you? I feel like I'm
Speaker 3: being harpooned by a monk.
Speaker 1: What that was a weird dude. The dialogue is so bad,
Speaker 1: so many corny pieces of dialogue.
Speaker 5: She says, you're a faustus.
Speaker 3: And then they show that girl and they're giving her
Speaker 3: a bunch of doses of d MT. Remember that girl,
Speaker 3: that the crazy chick. She's talking about having religious experiences.
Speaker 5: That's all like that.
Speaker 3: This is where we get into the MK ultra part.
Speaker 3: Right now we're starting to see all this MK ultra stuff.
Speaker 3: And he's got his little float tank, yes, full of
Speaker 3: jungle juice. He's in their floating in jungle juice. And
Speaker 3: now you can see why he would be dosing dolphins, right,
Speaker 3: I mean, because this dude is a quack man.
Speaker 5: This guy's crazy.
Speaker 1: And the move members going back to the DNT girl.
Speaker 1: Remember what they asked her what she saw or what
Speaker 1: she fell saw Jesus. Yeah, she says, she's like felt
Speaker 1: Jesus or some saw Jesus.
Speaker 3: Uh if Lily, Oh, I had a dumb joke. So
Speaker 3: if if Lily was dosing dolphins, did seventy Science Man
Speaker 3: with the Jewfefro going dose Jaws?
Speaker 1: If he did, nobody would have died in that movie.
Speaker 5: That's what was going Jaws to the wall because he
Speaker 5: was he was dosed up.
Speaker 1: That's why seventy Science Man, That's why Jaws five Jaws
Speaker 1: Goes Vegan never got made.
Speaker 3: Oh so once he once Jaws finally has his uh
Speaker 3: one with everything.
Speaker 5: Moment he goes, he.
Speaker 1: He realizes the air of his ways and he realizes
Speaker 1: that we're all just one. I'm not gonna eat fish
Speaker 1: anymore or humans. I'm not going to terrorize small towns anymore.
Speaker 1: I just want to be one with them.
Speaker 3: Now. The next part, so remember when he goes to Mexico.
Speaker 2: This is real.
Speaker 5: This is based on like the Gordon.
Speaker 3: Washston Carlos Stanata going down to Mexico and JP Morgan
Speaker 3: the banking bankers is who's uh funded all that? Going
Speaker 3: down to get the shrooms. And he goes down there,
Speaker 3: he says to reenact toll tech rituals.
Speaker 5: Remember this, mm hmm.
Speaker 3: So he goes down there and he gets involved in
Speaker 3: this crazy ceremony and I mean Everything in this ceremony
Speaker 3: is demonic.
Speaker 5: Evil, gross nasty. They're all dressed up like zombies.
Speaker 3: Skulls everywhere, and it's like, you can't figure out that
Speaker 3: this is demonic. He's seeing serpents, he's seeing nuclear explosion.
Speaker 1: To cut his hand and they put his blood in
Speaker 1: the thing, and they drink his blood ince in the ceremony,
Speaker 1: and he's seeing there with his wounded hands.
Speaker 3: There's nothing demonic about this, right, It's just this is
Speaker 3: all just you know, you know what I like to.
Speaker 1: They show the fire, the fires underneath the cauldron, and
Speaker 1: the the indigenous are burning. I don't know where they
Speaker 1: get a cast iron cauldron in there in their ceremonies.
Speaker 1: So they've got this huge cast iron cauldron. And he
Speaker 1: just goes up and then scoops it out of this
Speaker 1: boiling cauldron and drinks it. It's boiling aauasca. And everyone
Speaker 1: just drinks the boiling ayahuasca. I don't know how how
Speaker 1: that's supposed to.
Speaker 5: That's some real salsa right there. That's chips and salsa
Speaker 5: for real.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so he sees the sequence that is the
Speaker 3: beginning of his like his life's work, right, So he's
Speaker 3: from then on he's sold on the power of the
Speaker 3: anheogens and all this stuff. And that's a little kind
Speaker 3: of I mean, it's kind of true. But actually what
Speaker 3: the movie doesn't ever touch on is that Lily was
Speaker 3: back in the fifties, forties and fifties, he was doing
Speaker 3: all the brain chip stuff. He was implanting all the
Speaker 3: micro trip electrodes, and he's he brags about He's like,
Speaker 3: I can put.
Speaker 5: Sho he said, I showed the electrodes on the Huh.
Speaker 1: They show in the film, they show there's electrodes all
Speaker 1: over their heads where they're going into the flow tank thing.
Speaker 3: No, but he says, he says back in Night, he says,
Speaker 3: in nineteen fifty two, he said I could put electrodes
Speaker 3: in a monkey's brain and have him orgasm me all
Speaker 3: day long.
Speaker 5: I'm not joking. He literally says that. He says that
Speaker 5: was awesome. He says we could. He says, we can
Speaker 5: make them, the monkeys happy all day.
Speaker 7: Did you hear that, Joe Rogan, you can all be
Speaker 7: monkey gods orgasm all with your flesh lights. You can
Speaker 7: all if we just go into the imagination. We realize
Speaker 7: the imagination is God, and Joe Rogan lives in the
Speaker 7: imagination where we all have the flesh lights of the
Speaker 7: gold all around us.
Speaker 3: So that right, I mean, he does have the electrodes,
Speaker 3: but they don't mention that he was doing all this
Speaker 3: top cigarette work to do with signals research and mind control, which,
Speaker 3: by the way, I'll tell you my theory on what
Speaker 3: all that dolphin stuff was. They weren't dosing dolphins to
Speaker 3: try to see if he could talk to dolphins and
Speaker 3: figure out dolphin code. They were studying signals research so
Speaker 3: that they could create mind control technology.
Speaker 5: That's what it was really about.
Speaker 1: That's why they wanted. They wanted to make synthetic telepathy
Speaker 1: using drugs and machines.
Speaker 3: Right, So he sees all this crazy mess. He sees
Speaker 3: it's like a giant brain diarrhea trip.
Speaker 5: Is what he sees.
Speaker 3: And I said that because the last time I ate Mexican,
Speaker 3: I got some brain diarrhea. Last time I had chips
Speaker 3: and sauce of D M T cauldron which is brew.
Speaker 5: Let's see what.
Speaker 1: I'd like that.
Speaker 5: So that shaman tells him.
Speaker 8: He says, you will see spark, then you will see
Speaker 8: it crack, then you will see do nothing right, then
Speaker 8: you will be reborn. I was like, what that's that's
Speaker 8: you gotta cross the abyss. You gotta destroy your ego,
Speaker 8: gotta be this is the.
Speaker 1: Shamanic become nothing and constituted as what.
Speaker 3: Right, it's never any story stuff, right, you gotta you
Speaker 3: gotta become nothing. It's all Luciferian. Uh, let's see they're
Speaker 3: all dressed. Oh remember he saw the mushroom as a
Speaker 3: mushroom cloud.
Speaker 1: That was weird.
Speaker 2: That was later on.
Speaker 5: That was like his next trip down the road.
Speaker 3: But anyway, he gets obsessed with this, Like so he's
Speaker 3: obsessed with going in the tank and he keeps doing
Speaker 3: it and it's ruining everything in his life, his relationships,
Speaker 3: his colleagues, everybody's getting sick of him because he's acting.
Speaker 5: Like a damn loon, like a monkey.
Speaker 1: And this is like, this is like the Western impirsist
Speaker 1: replacement for spiritual journeys. Right, somebody like this would become
Speaker 1: a monk, right, would have a structure, you know, of
Speaker 1: life that they could seek spirituality, they could seek God.
Speaker 1: But in this way where people have done away with
Speaker 1: God in the West, in this uh, this distorted way
Speaker 1: we go about life. Now, what do they have? What
Speaker 1: do people like this, really have they they go and
Speaker 1: fry themselves out and become schitzos, or they just become
Speaker 1: insufferable to everyone around them and depressed.
Speaker 3: As he says, I just saw the birth of a man.
Speaker 5: It's like, what the birth of a mountain. They didn't
Speaker 5: say a birth of a mountain.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's supposed to be a scientist and he
Speaker 3: thinks that everything that he's experiencing in his trips is
Speaker 3: a real alternate universe that he believes he can manifest
Speaker 3: into this.
Speaker 5: Universe, and that that's kind of true. He actually kind
Speaker 5: of says that in the book. But I mean, that's
Speaker 5: just ludicrous.
Speaker 3: But by the way, modern scientism officionados they all said
Speaker 3: the very same thing.
Speaker 5: They say the multiverse.
Speaker 3: Oh, we all live in a multiverse where every possibility,
Speaker 3: every potentiality is reality. So that would mean that there
Speaker 3: is a universe where God exists. So actually all the
Speaker 3: atheists believe in God now, But I mean it's just
Speaker 3: total nonsense, total total contradiction. But he actually says this, right,
Speaker 3: and that's when the science guy, the Southern seventies science man,
Speaker 3: we got we got Jewish science man, and we got
Speaker 3: redneck science man. Red next seventy science man and he
Speaker 3: has a meltdown, reams all of his lines for like
Speaker 3: five minutes straight, and he's like, He's like, and.
Speaker 5: I'm so tired of your damn cabalistic quantum bullshit. I
Speaker 5: can't take now lore this. Get out of that damn
Speaker 5: tank and let me do a cat scan on your brain.
Speaker 3: Screaming for five minutes, I was like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 3: this guy's annoying.
Speaker 1: But but then and then it becomes real. Then it
Speaker 1: gets really real because William Hurt proves when he X
Speaker 1: raysed his body after he comes out of his super
Speaker 1: trip of the you know, the drug that he brings
Speaker 1: back from the Mexican showmans. He comes back, goes in
Speaker 1: the in the float tank, doses himself and they X
Speaker 1: ray him afterwards, and the X rays was the monkey
Speaker 1: he was devolving.
Speaker 3: The evolution is real.
Speaker 1: There's an X ray and you're a gorill.
Speaker 5: Then his cat skin was a monkey.
Speaker 1: You just got a monkey? This is Is there anything
Speaker 1: abnormal about this? And guy's like, that's so that's the.
Speaker 3: Stupid, Like this movie is leading you down this journey
Speaker 3: of you're actually into this. You know, it's sensible up
Speaker 3: until that point, and then it just becomes totally retarded,
Speaker 3: like a geico ad where he jumps out of the
Speaker 3: tank as an ape as a caveman.
Speaker 1: What yeah, because he's.
Speaker 3: Running became a proto human being beaten things with with
Speaker 3: bones and ship and it's like, what from an acid trip.
Speaker 3: You can't actually turn into the thing that you're having
Speaker 3: an acid trip about.
Speaker 1: Bro, Sorry, No, he did because he was so it
Speaker 1: was the most powerful as he tapped so deep into
Speaker 1: it because of the tank tank plus the ayahuasca drops,
Speaker 1: and that made he was the most powerful manifestor. But look,
Speaker 1: I mean this this actually this goes back to like
Speaker 1: the whole ritual magic.
Speaker 3: He manifested reality because he was the magis.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he becomes this powerful magician's able to control reality
Speaker 1: and people around him, which by controlling reality they mean
Speaker 1: controlling people's perception of the world around them. That's what
Speaker 1: these people are, these magic magicians. They don't mean their acts.
Speaker 1: They don't they're not going to actually create a new universe.
Speaker 1: They believe that they're controlling people's perception of the universe,
Speaker 1: which then makes the universe right. So they have this
Speaker 1: distorted kind of this gnostic view of your mind is God,
Speaker 1: and if we can just control everyone's mind and then
Speaker 1: we can become like the over God or something like that.
Speaker 1: Really stupid and the John C. Lilly character. Instead of
Speaker 1: becoming this powerful magician like Croley, he becomes this basically
Speaker 1: mad man consumed by the super etheric power of evolution
Speaker 1: that he's harnessed, and he doesn't know which way an
Speaker 1: evolution he's going to go, and it's very uh.
Speaker 3: He regressed into his monkey nuts and went back, he said.
Speaker 3: He says, I have stored within me millennia of the
Speaker 3: monkey nuts of my ancestors, and I regressed into those
Speaker 3: memories in my testes and brings them back. He retrieves
Speaker 3: those regressive memories and he becomes his apes self, and
Speaker 3: then he runs off to the zoo.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: No, animals don't run to the zoo. They run away
Speaker 3: from the zoo. I don't understand that. And then he
Speaker 3: threw a rock at a sheep. You ever seen a
Speaker 3: sheep at a zoo? I've never seen sheep at the zoo.
Speaker 1: There was like a two thousand sheep in that zoo.
Speaker 1: Everywhere They looked like goats too, Like what kind of
Speaker 1: weird looking.
Speaker 3: S verage on that thing and he's got to smear
Speaker 3: it all over his face.
Speaker 5: He's being sage eat.
Speaker 1: Them, so he eats the block of the sheep. It
Speaker 1: was so bad. Oh, well, what about when he comes
Speaker 1: He goes in the tank and he says he's dictating
Speaker 1: all this right, he's tripping out, he's tripping so hard.
Speaker 1: But at the same time he's describing it and he's saying,
Speaker 1: I'm a proto human. There's this this quadruped monkey and
Speaker 1: it just jumped out of a tree. Oh, it's magnificent.
Speaker 1: It's eating a small sheep now, so he's seeing, like
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen in the future with him? And then
Speaker 1: he comes out of the tank and he's got blood
Speaker 1: all over his mouth and it's like this, you know, scientist.
Speaker 3: I was wondering that why is he bleeding when he
Speaker 3: comes out of there?
Speaker 1: It's supposed to be it's like the the realities bleeding.
Speaker 1: It was so powerfully beat out of a janitor. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought he killed him.
Speaker 5: I was like, why is this guy killed the cop?
Speaker 3: And then the night the night cop rent the cop
Speaker 3: and then he beat the crap out of a janitor.
Speaker 1: But it was okay. It was all good, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: But remember too, Uh, why is ancient primal? Why is
Speaker 3: that more spiritual?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 5: There's always this assumption that.
Speaker 3: Tribes rolling around, you know, in feces and wearing a
Speaker 3: loin cloth, that's more spiritual?
Speaker 5: Really why? Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 1: People don't have ancient they can't. They can't interpret history
Speaker 1: without the fall, right, and so then they they have
Speaker 1: this maybe deep down there yearning for or the state
Speaker 1: before the fall.
Speaker 3: Did you notice too, nobody ever regresses to something stupid
Speaker 3: or shitty, Like they don't ever regress to being a bee.
Speaker 3: They don't regress to being an std or little aids
Speaker 3: or a dust might or you know, it's always oh,
Speaker 3: it's a monkey. But he didn't regress back any further
Speaker 3: than that. I mean, why is he regressing to hi much?
Speaker 5: Well, it's because it's he did.
Speaker 1: Remember In the end, he regresses to like the cosmic
Speaker 1: pond skun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he becomes like proto the protozoa or whatever, the
Speaker 3: first primordial thought something. Yeah, that's what he calls it,
Speaker 3: the first I became the first thought. The more like
Speaker 3: it the first thought. Uh, let's see, he's he becomes
Speaker 3: star child, he gets reborn Remember that he becomes like
Speaker 3: his light being and she has to reach into the
Speaker 3: trip and pull him out.
Speaker 1: Remember that at this point you're you're so done with
Speaker 1: this movie and get through it becomes.
Speaker 5: Two thousand and one.
Speaker 3: It's like it becomes Kubert level, and you can tell
Speaker 3: they were trying to go for Kubert level stuff.
Speaker 1: Just like, let's just do two thousand and one.
Speaker 3: You know, space jizz on the screen, literally, that's what
Speaker 3: it's like. Space jizz everywhere on the screens.
Speaker 5: Gross.
Speaker 3: And William Hurt comes back and he touches his wife
Speaker 3: and she becomes lava. I don't know she she screams
Speaker 3: as lava. And then he beats the wall a few times,
Speaker 3: but he beats it enough that he beats enough that
Speaker 3: he gets back to normal and loves said. You remember,
Speaker 3: do you remember his great last line? He has a
Speaker 3: great last line. He says, I saw the truth that
Speaker 3: there is no truth.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's the end of the movie. I saw the
Speaker 1: truth that there is no truth. But it's okay because
Speaker 1: we love each other.
Speaker 3: So then if there's no truth, then you don't love
Speaker 3: each other.
Speaker 5: Dummy.
Speaker 3: Somebody's hey, don't don't come William Hurt.
Speaker 1: It's no truth.
Speaker 5: But that's the kind of crap that you would get
Speaker 5: in Lily's book.
Speaker 12: He says like this is the stupidest mood of ever,
Speaker 12: sing that this is so bad and it's so like
Speaker 12: I said, it's the this, this is the Boomer generation incarnate, right,
Speaker 12: the scientism, just.
Speaker 13: Obsessive relativism scientists, and then and then ending up just okay,
Speaker 13: we'll just idolize fake relationships with each other.
Speaker 1: Screw it, let's just worship each other.
Speaker 5: Yeah, hence Boomer divorce.
Speaker 3: Right, I mean, you know, after he says that they're
Speaker 3: about to get a divorce, there is.
Speaker 1: No truth, but then they're naked and she's like, oh,
Speaker 1: they're hugging, and they're suddenly naked and hugging.
Speaker 3: He's about to move down to Florida set up his uh,
Speaker 3: his dolphin prostitution ring.
Speaker 1: Like she's gonna become a massage therapist, reiking master.
Speaker 3: While he's down there messing with humb and dolphin.
Speaker 1: Right, right, he's gonna be he's gonna be putting his
Speaker 1: dinghi in a dolphin's blowhole. She's in and she's gonna
Speaker 1: have to she'll have to give it therapy afterwards. She'll
Speaker 1: have to do raiki on.
Speaker 5: The dolphin, Dolphin Reiki masters, that's all.
Speaker 2: So what is this movie? Like?
Speaker 3: This movie is like if you've ever wanted to have
Speaker 3: a bad acid trip with a Boomer, That's what this movie.
Speaker 3: Because half of this movie is his acid trips and
Speaker 3: the other half of his movie is just kind of
Speaker 3: sitting around with Boomer seventy scientists shooting the shit.
Speaker 5: That's what this movie is.
Speaker 1: This movie is so bad that it made the Renegade one.
Speaker 1: It's like, it's like, oh, it's kind of relieving the
Speaker 1: Renegade movie. It's like, as far as it.
Speaker 3: Was so bad, it was entertaining because I knew we
Speaker 3: were gonna have.
Speaker 5: Fun with it.
Speaker 1: But dude, there's so many bad lines. I should have
Speaker 1: to taken notes, but there's so many. We're just Jess
Speaker 1: gonna were just laughing the whole time.
Speaker 3: How many Geico Cavemen do you give this movie?
Speaker 1: I give this movie out of how many out of
Speaker 1: out of all? Right, out of fourteen billion Geico Caveman,
Speaker 1: because Happy Birthday, Universe, the age of the U Universe
Speaker 1: fourteen billion years exactly was born today, I give it
Speaker 1: three billion Geico Caveman.
Speaker 3: Seventeen seventy six billion years ago. Okay, yeah, I'll give
Speaker 3: it three and a half. And William hurt my feelings
Speaker 3: with this movie.
Speaker 1: I want, I want to look up some quotes from
Speaker 1: this movie because there's so many great you do that
Speaker 1: want to.
Speaker 5: Read the super chest.
Speaker 3: DC custom says, big dreams all start small little aids.
Speaker 3: Needs to get him some tinfoil, wrap them teeth, get
Speaker 3: a hoodie. Of course, Kristin always wears a hood That's
Speaker 3: like the only thing. Tristan has two garments. He wears
Speaker 3: a hoodie and he wears a tank top. That's the
Speaker 3: only two thing in his closet. Dude, you open up
Speaker 3: that closet that's made out of mud, like the whole house.
Speaker 2: Like, dude, It's.
Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of racial undertones that I'm really
Speaker 1: not appreciating. I mean, I've just because I'm South American,
Speaker 1: I'm the ethnic You got to you gotta you gotta
Speaker 1: tell me I gotta wear hoodies. Now, I guess I
Speaker 1: I'm allow to wear.
Speaker 3: That's all that's in your right when you got married.
Speaker 3: When you got married, you had a tuxedo that was
Speaker 3: a tank top, hoodie. It was the hood that was
Speaker 3: what you got married.
Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned that's all that in my closet. What's
Speaker 1: wrong with being in the closet? I mean that's something
Speaker 1: you know a little bit about, right, I mean this
Speaker 1: is it's been a really nice fot. You watched two movies, right, Jay,
Speaker 1: These are two movies that Jay could really relate to. Right,
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna have to come Renegade movie. He could
Speaker 1: really relate to Renegade because Jay's killed many hookers, and
Speaker 1: he could also he could really relate to tow Altered
Speaker 1: States because he's also, uh, he's also been in a
Speaker 1: lot of closed room environments with monkeys and it had
Speaker 1: questionable things happens.
Speaker 3: Well, at least in my clause that we got more
Speaker 3: than two garments. And by the way, Tristan when he's
Speaker 3: doing his streams, that's the only garment he's got on.
Speaker 3: There's nothing from the bottom down.
Speaker 5: Is empty nothing. But you just got that hoodie. That's
Speaker 5: the only thing he wears around.
Speaker 3: Actually, the natives, actually the natives who all wear loin
Speaker 3: cloths around him in that in the indigenous region, they're
Speaker 3: tired of trusting.
Speaker 5: They're like, man, that.
Speaker 3: Dude, that white dude over there, he is weird man.
Speaker 3: We need him to put some whitey tidies on or
Speaker 3: something because he's more native.
Speaker 1: They want me to blow blow the tobacco smoke on them.
Speaker 1: In the reiki ceremonies with William Hurt's wife doing doing
Speaker 1: reiki therapy, well you have to.
Speaker 3: Get down off of your roof from spying on the
Speaker 3: boomers in the sex tenths.
Speaker 1: Oh my, I'm in the Boomer sex.
Speaker 2: Deep.
Speaker 5: That's what you get live streamed on that channel he
Speaker 5: was talking about earlier. Is that gross stuff?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my other channels called boomer fluids.
Speaker 3: That was the end of this movie with the visions
Speaker 3: that that William Hurt was seeing was boomer fluids. The
Speaker 3: whole thing, the whole universe in his mind is created
Speaker 3: by the Big Boomer Bang. Literally it was the big
Speaker 3: boomer bang in his mind that created the universe.
Speaker 5: If you notice that, did you see he.
Speaker 1: Was so enlightened that he recreated the big big The
Speaker 1: whole thing is so stupid, but it really it does
Speaker 1: show kind of that that preless that, you know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the total psychotic you know, I am everything and everything
Speaker 1: is me, and look I know everything and I and
Speaker 1: what you know and everything they think they know these people.
Speaker 1: It's just what they've already been told by the culture
Speaker 1: that they're in, right by what what what's his face?
Speaker 1: Leary would call the set. In the setting, it's like
Speaker 1: he just confirms all his own biases. Oh look there's monkeys.
Speaker 1: We was monkeys. It's evolution. Oh look there's the primordial soup,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna become it. You know, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: just it's all a confirmation biased psychosis.
Speaker 3: Primordial suit was uh was taco suit?
Speaker 1: Somebody? Tristan lives in a mud igloo with a mud
Speaker 1: closet filled with hoodies and tank tops.
Speaker 5: That was my joke. Did we talking about Listen what
Speaker 5: I say?
Speaker 3: I said, you built your house you were bragging about
Speaker 3: it's all made out of mud that y'all stacked up.
Speaker 5: And there's nothing but two garments in there.
Speaker 1: When you see it written nowt it's it's even funnier.
Speaker 5: Where we just we can have a show where we
Speaker 5: just bust on each other. Dude, we can just roast.
Speaker 2: We have to put that on.
Speaker 1: It's just for the Chatterbach fans only only fans. You
Speaker 1: just say these things. You don't realize what you're saying
Speaker 1: when you say.
Speaker 3: The can you tell I've been listening to THEO Von.
Speaker 3: I started doing these stall stories.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: One time we had a dude that was a damn
Speaker 3: call it name a Tristan.
Speaker 5: There was a dude.
Speaker 1: He was slick man, that man. It was just full
Speaker 1: of tank top.
Speaker 3: He was beautiful, but it was weird, living in a
Speaker 3: damn mud igloo down the.
Speaker 1: Road, right and we was real man, but he was
Speaker 1: a weird little dude too.
Speaker 5: He liking boomer women.
Speaker 3: Man, he run out there to the tents at night
Speaker 3: and start looking started lusting after nim boomer women. Right,
Speaker 3: gang gang.
Speaker 5: Y'all like my theo Von and personally.
Speaker 3: All right, uh, let's see, I think we had another
Speaker 3: super chat.
Speaker 5: See ro says for five bucks.
Speaker 3: Have you either either of you watched Oh thank you
Speaker 3: the British show Utopia. Yes, Tristan and I have for
Speaker 3: months and months been talking about doing Utopia.
Speaker 5: I gotta I gotta finish it, dude.
Speaker 1: That show is so deep that it's like if you
Speaker 1: if you just do an analysis on that show, you'll
Speaker 1: get kicked off at YouTube because there's so much in it.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's I feel like there's too much
Speaker 1: in that.
Speaker 3: He says, my name is Tom Green. Okay, okay, dude,
Speaker 3: but thank you for that. Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna
Speaker 3: do Utopia. I'm about I keep rewatching it. So I've
Speaker 3: watched it twice up through season one, so like almost
Speaker 3: to the end of season one twice, and I do
Speaker 3: have notes.
Speaker 1: So you haven't seen the first episode of season two though,
Speaker 1: because it's a good really like season two episode one,
Speaker 1: it's a good one.
Speaker 5: Awesome. We're gonna get on that next. DC Customs says,
Speaker 5: for five dollars, can you review Pie? Yeah, I guess
Speaker 5: I should.
Speaker 3: That's I mean, if we finally got to Holy Mountain,
Speaker 3: then we gotta finally get to Pie. Because you know,
Speaker 3: esoteric movies one of those Darren Aronofsky's.
Speaker 1: Aeronofsky. It's like he just wants to turn you schizophrenic
Speaker 1: with a film. That's his goal every film. I want
Speaker 1: to make you a schizophrenic at the end of it.
Speaker 5: That's true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Black Swan, that one was another discussion.
Speaker 5: That one was wild too, because that was about the
Speaker 5: split in her psyche. Remember, the whole thing was, uh.
Speaker 3: Mila Kunas was a lesbian in her head. She had
Speaker 3: a lesbian infesting her head.
Speaker 1: Remember that that movie was crazy, That was wild Man.
Speaker 3: Howard Theovann said, man, I was watching that damn black
Speaker 3: Swan and old Natalie Portman had had a lesbian in
Speaker 3: her head. She had that bitch had a lesbian stuck
Speaker 3: up in her head.
Speaker 1: Had doctors tell me one time that I had a
Speaker 1: bunch of lesbians up in my head.
Speaker 5: I had the heart of a lesbian.
Speaker 3: But it's one of the few funny comedians now right, yeah,
Speaker 3: Sam Hill, funny Sam Hi.
Speaker 5: Who's at the top of the totem pole.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 1: There's this other guy that's got a YouTube channel, now,
Speaker 1: Ryan Long. He has some funny videos right now, Ryan Long.
Speaker 1: Check yeah, right Long, check out his channel. He's a
Speaker 1: few funny ones. His edits the short adds. But Theo's
Speaker 1: got this way like he could just talk for ten
Speaker 1: minutes and say nothing.
Speaker 2: To be crazy.
Speaker 5: Stories are awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Theo's great storytelling.
Speaker 5: Uh oh wait, we'll get another Sipper chair.
Speaker 1: THEO would be funny. Even if he cut his mullet,
Speaker 1: he'd be funny too. It's like the kind of guy.
Speaker 1: It's not just the just the look. No, we don't
Speaker 1: have another shave his head to be hilarious, but he's
Speaker 1: got to keep.
Speaker 5: The mulling, all right, y'all.
Speaker 3: Tristan's channel is linked if you if you feel dirty
Speaker 3: and you want to go see all that nasty so
Speaker 3: it comes into his channel is linked, not his YouTube channel,
Speaker 3: his other hidden channel that he doesn't know about. That
Speaker 3: one's linked if you want to go watch all that
Speaker 3: nasty stuff. But thank y'all, anything you want to leave
Speaker 3: us with Tristan, No.
Speaker 2: Man, it was a good stream.
Speaker 1: Sorry, we had to I know watching that that the
Speaker 1: first movie we talked about might have been kind of
Speaker 1: hard bringing up the memories of like, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it was about killing hookers, right, so I mean there
Speaker 1: might be it might have brought up brought off some
Speaker 1: weird memories for you or whatever.
Speaker 3: So below the dude he's going, but yeah, no it
Speaker 3: it was fun.
Speaker 1: Man. Well, I don't know what we'll do next. Maybe
Speaker 1: we do the we should do you tell you next?
Speaker 5: Always been saying do you utopia?
Speaker 1: Toby is crazy. I have to watch it. Do that next?
Speaker 5: Uh, and I'll get back on it. Finished season one
Speaker 5: all right, man.
Speaker 1: The music they did a good job on the soundtrack
Speaker 1: at Utopia.
Speaker 3: Cool dude, it was the little aide wrap on that
Speaker 3: little age. We'll let you do your little You could
Speaker 3: do some freestyle, right, You can't.
Speaker 1: Just call me up the freesid. You gotta do your
Speaker 1: you gotta do your verse, spit your bars, battle rap,
Speaker 1: we should do that.
Speaker 3: We'll do a battle wrap cut down. We'll do a
Speaker 3: wrap battle roasted cutdown thing next time.
Speaker 5: How's that?
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm serious. Let's do that'd be funny like that.
Speaker 3: Do it all right, dude, everybody Tristan uh and thank
Speaker 3: you for the super chats, and everybody have a good night.