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Speaker 3: The scientific method cannot justify the scientific method. Therefore itself

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Speaker 4: Subsisten less sensensen assents.

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Speaker 1: As its extent, it's.

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Speaker 3: Had a bunch of bad trips with Indians, had a

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bunch of desert drugs in my system, smoking a little

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bit of that snake, smoking that rattlesnake tail, getting high from.

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Speaker 5: Licking scalps. You know you could get high from licking scalps.

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Speaker 3: You will see into Mother Earth's cerebral cortex when you

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lick scalps like the Indians used to do. That's what

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we're gonna be talking about today when we get our

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boy Tristan Schristan, which is Quebecy for meat, if you

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didn't know, that's the Quebecy word for meat. And looks

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like he's coming, Tristan. We're waiting on our little boy, Tristan.

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 5: Schristan?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 5: Can you hear me now? Baby?

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Speaker 1: You hear me?

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Speaker 2: Yes? I can.

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Speaker 3: Right, We've got to make sure the audience can hear

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us though, because I was talking about you saying that

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your name means meat in French?

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Speaker 5: Is that true?

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Speaker 6: Christan It means like it means has a large slab

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of meat on his back, between between his legs.

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Speaker 1: It's that's the actual.

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Speaker 3: Between the nuts and the booty hoole, that little area

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that's where you have.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's it's Tristan. Actually, it's a French name. It

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actually means superior to Jay Dyer. It's weird, like direct translated,

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that's exactly what it means.

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Speaker 3: Okay, in the Quebecy right from the original Quebecy.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Okay, what's up, dude. Thanks for coming on, man.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on, big Shot. I appreciate you

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talking as little people.

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Speaker 3: And I'm still trying to figure out the hierarchy the

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totem pole. Given today's a lot of Indian stuff, the

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totem pole is a better image for today's because I

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don't know if I'm higher on the totem.

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Speaker 5: Pole than you know, because L J.

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Speaker 7: Dyer, in this totem pole, you actually want to be

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on the bottom, because if you will only use your imagination,

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you will realize that the totem pole is God, and

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God is everything, and you are also God. If you

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just listen to the machine l's and put the peep

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in the pooping.

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Speaker 5: You know we're pure imagination. Can anybody I couldn't.

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Speaker 3: Could y'all hear the first few minutes of me talking

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about talking about trustan or not? I couldn't tell if

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I had the sound messed up? Can y'all tell me?

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I was talking smack talking about how you could get

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high from smoking Indian browndsnake rattlers can get high that way.

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Speaker 5: You can get high from licking scalps. Indians used to

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Speaker 3: You could see into the cerebral cortex of Mother Earth

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herself DAYA.

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Speaker 1: We call it a third eye scrying, and you you

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basically yeah, I don't. I don't want to get into that.

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they suspected that he was gay. They used to say that, uh,

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he was light in his No, I just screwed my

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joke up. What's the Indian word for slippers? What are

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Indian slippers called?

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Speaker 1: I thought it was they would just say like he

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he was. I think they would name they would give

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him different names when.

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Speaker 5: They they would be he would be.

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Speaker 3: Walk walks with J would be sassy antelope, little little

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sassy antelope.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like like stands like J would be his name.

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Speaker 5: Yes, meet on ass Like Tristan.

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Speaker 1: You say, you say I got a nice some nice

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meaty butt cheeks like you like my meaty booty.

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's what the that's what the Quebecy translation

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of your name means. That's all I'm saying, which is

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Speaker 3: Anyway, So what we decided to do today was two

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psychonaut movies. It has nothing really to do with Fourth

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of July and America and all that. Tristan said, let's

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do a Fourth of July stream. I said, let's do

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a dystopia Psychonauts stream, which is not really dystopian, but

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Speaker 1: So we dide a nice mix, right, We got like

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you got kind of you got you have like in

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the inside the mind of a boomer, which is altered states.

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Speaker 3: It's like the boomer you already you read my mind, dude.

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We did not our jokes because I have a bunch

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of boomer jokes in my houses.

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Speaker 5: You already read my mind.

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Speaker 1: Right, I mean that's what that movie is, dude, altered State.

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It's like, I'm watching it. It just got art laughing

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out loud half the movie.

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it maybe two years ago, and I was I started

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falling asleep because I thought it was really stupid. I

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woke up at the end with that I'll save the

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ending for later because it's priceless.

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Speaker 5: But I was cracking out when.

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Speaker 3: I woke up out of my sleep and I was like,

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what is happening. I didn't know if I was still

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dreaming or if this was really the way the movie

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was ending. But and then let's start with this. Let's

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start with the one you recommended, which was it was

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pretty damn weird. I didn't like it at first, and

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then the more that I was progressing in the plot,

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I was I was getting a little more into it.

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Speaker 5: It's called Blueberry or Renegade.

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Speaker 3: It has two different titles, and it's a two thousand

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and four film by some foreign French Quebecy American Indian person.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what his name is, but nerd.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and uh.

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Speaker 3: It has Michael Mads and Juliette Lewis who actually looks

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Speaker 1: In this you know most she's like almost likable.

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Speaker 5: This yet the movie she looks like a sixteen year

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old lot lizard whore.

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Speaker 8: But in this movie, but she does.

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Speaker 1: She does like a spread eagle bush shot in the film,

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of course. So just so you know it's Juliet Lewis,

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she had to show the Yoni so.

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Speaker 3: We By the way, we got a couple of super

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chats from our friends over at the Fartifact podcast. Get it,

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it's called artifact, but I said FARTI fact just to

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piss off the people who don't like the bodily function jokes.

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Speaker 5: But there's another one for you.

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Speaker 3: But shout out to her, everybody, go watch the Fartifact

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Artifact podcast.

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Speaker 5: She's good at what she does and.

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Speaker 2: We like her.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for her support with those six dollars super ships.

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By the way, there are still super chats everybody. Every

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time we do this, you gotta go to stream labs.

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So the stream labs link in the show description, or

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as are bro Okay often puts in the chat, just

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step on over to that stream labs and you can

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ask these two see and.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm more like a B level eat C level.

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Tristan's like a D level.

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Speaker 1: Plus I'm scrambling, I'm trying. I'm trying to crawl up

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at his legs. And you know, by if I can

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make Jay feel insecure enough, then I can feel like

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maybe my celeb status is elevated a little bit.

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Speaker 5: No, damn, who's higher on this tone pole?

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Speaker 3: I mean, you got the check mark from YouTube, right,

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But I was But I was eating oysters with Alex Jones.

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Speaker 1: The other day, so yeah, well yeah, I mean, you

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don't know what I had to the things I had

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to do for that check mark. You actually, you probably don't.

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Speaker 3: So technically, so you are a little bit above me

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Speaker 5: Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, that's all right.

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Speaker 3: We'll just we'll start some drama and take you down

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this week. So okay, let's talk about Blueberry. Thank you

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for recommending this. It starts out with like my eagle sound.

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Speaker 1: It's like, isn't he is? It Like it's like a

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spinning camera shot of the dude laying on the ground

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and he's like, I'm dead.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he's appearing to be dead, and uh, I don't

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know how quick the eagle shows up, But that made

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me think of America. I mean, there's yes America in

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America today with the Eagle sound.

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Speaker 1: That's the most American shot in both of these movies.

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Speaker 5: And so Vincent Gallo is going to go on a

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mystical journey of sorts.

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Speaker 1: Vincent, right, isn't it? Isn't it? Vincent? What did I say, Gallo?

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Speaker 3: Vincent Cassel, Vince a Gallow, I don't know that.

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Speaker 1: And it's not for the Chats booger whistle. It's Vincent.

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Speaker 3: Although never mind, I get too dumb here. I was

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going to do an Eagles booger whistle, which would be

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even higher, but an Eagles book booger whistle would be

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so high pitched you couldn't hear it. It would make

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dogs bark. Alchemy the Gnostic Cross, Yeah, so the opening

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a Gnostic looking cross of Jesus of sorts, and we

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find out later that that's going to be a treasure map.

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layers of finding treasure here. So on the one level,

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we've got, oh, there's a golden statue somewhere.

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Speaker 5: Michael Madsen, as.

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Speaker 3: You said, is the evil sorcerer, but we've also got

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this initiatory journey that Vincent Cassel is going to go on,

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right that, so it's basically a magical journey slash battle

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that's gonna happen, and that's not Yeah, yeah, I didn't know,

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like, yeah, it's a weird movie because

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the first dots, like it just seems like, a Okay,

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early two thousands, but it actually it's more of kind

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of like an alchemical journey through this guy's psyche to

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try and reconcile like busted up parts of his psyche. Right, so,

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pictures of like little engine man and Paoti buttons and

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like you know, like trippy looking whatever. They they kind

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of made a mismatch of like Shapibo artwork and South

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kind of like weird mumbo jumbo general esthetic of like animism,

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kind of like the animistic religion and shamanism exactly what

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it's kind of coming from this John C. Lily psychonat

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Timothy Leary. We've got like a psychologist and an anthropologist,

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and it's coming from this Western scientific boomer mentality, whereas

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this one was more like a I don't know, kind

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of like a Western mysticism mixed with Eastern mysticism and

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animism altogether. And yeah, you mentioned like the dual thing

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about like the treasure hunt, right, So they're hunting for

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this gold and there's this German character what's that guy's name,

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Like the Prussians, I would bring new mountains of gold.

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We would go and we would get on the gold.

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these other characters are looking for this sort of like

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spiritual power rather than physical treasure.

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Speaker 5: The philosopher stoned dude.

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Speaker 1: Because they have the stone philosophers owned yep. So he's

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laying there like basically you don't even find out because

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basically his life is flashing before him that he he

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sees the world like a matrix. Do you notice how

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matrix sye it looked.

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Speaker 1: When he and then at the end, Yeah, there seem

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to be these like spiritual layers of and then the

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way that it visually portrays it, I thought it was.

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of psycho Nott films, Like it's done in a more

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kind of It seems like it's a more contemplated film

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than a lot of these corny like I don't know,

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like it takes some masses and watch this, it's going

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to trip you out, man, Whereas like Altered States was

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I don't know what the hell happened there. We'll get

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into that.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, that one is something else.

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Speaker 1: But so he's the layers of that, But then there's

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also there's a lot of serpent imagery.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well she asks him at the beginning, Remember she says,

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do you believe in God?

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Speaker 5: Right, Well, he goes to see his chick.

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Speaker 3: He flashes back to the kid when he's the kid,

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and he goes to see his flucy.

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Speaker 1: Or his so you have soy Vincent Cassel, so soy young,

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soy Vincent.

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Speaker 3: Visiting the strumpet, the ladies of the evening, the flucy market.

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Every every every Western, every saloon has a lady's flucy

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market above.

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Speaker 5: They noticed that.

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Speaker 1: They're always banging, right, that's all.

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Speaker 2: I guess.

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Speaker 5: There's nothing else to do except what trip acid?

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Speaker 3: Shoot people in the saloon, choose some tobacco, and go

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to the to the strumpet market above the saloon.

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. So he goes there and then

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there's kind of a there's an altercation. Michael Madsen comes in.

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perfect role for him. Is an evil cowboy like Michael

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just how I imagine he is in real life, like

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trying to dose you on acid and steal your soul.

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threatening scene and some guns get pulled out and then

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the camera throws outside and then the guy falls out

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the window and you don't know what happened. You hear

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gunshots and the houses on fire, right, and then that's

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kind of like that's the intro traumatic event and you

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don't really know what happened in there. Kind of a

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I mean not the most like amazing plot piece. You

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can kind of put it together after that scene that okay,

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well you don't know what happened in there, so later

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on maybe he'll find out. But that throws him on

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this like what happened? He gets like picked up by

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the Indians, right, they throw him out in the desert.

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Speaker 3: He goes full, uh you know, dances with wolves, right,

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full Kevin Costner dances with wolves.

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Speaker 1: Ends up with the Engines, the dark Knight of the Soul.

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He's got his uh you know. So the Indians pick

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him up and then what they like he doesn't really.

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Speaker 3: Well, he gets close bulls off the horse and he's

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kind of you know, brought in and they're like, all right, uh,

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what does every tribe do when they bring a white

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man in?

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Speaker 1: Time?

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Speaker 5: To give him that ayahuasca. Give him right away and

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he broke his back. Give him some d MT.

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Speaker 1: So the Indians are just sitting around and they're so

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enlightened and they're just so connected to nature, and they're

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like the eagles come and they like they chump the

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Indians arms, and they're just they're so powerful and long hair.

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Speaker 5: White man need us?

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Speaker 3: Do white men need to do him to right so

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that they get him stoned out of his mind?

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Speaker 1: The glove, the tobacco smoke on him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh, but he every time he gets injured, right,

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doesn't he get don't they kind.

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Speaker 5: Of smoke him out? They get him. They smoke him.

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Speaker 3: Every time he gets injured. And and that's like he

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has to go through these stages, right, and then he's

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you know, he meets up with that dude that has

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a eagle spirit animal, remember that.

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Speaker 1: Little bit his buddies like the son of the head

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shown in Guy. So they heal him, do they give

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him do they give him like a potion at that

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time or do they wait till later? I don't they

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wait till later.

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Speaker 5: I was just I was just saying, he but but

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the other Indians.

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Speaker 1: Are drinking the potion. It's like they're part of this

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club and they're part like they're they're getting in on

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the d n T. They're talking to the machinoes, you know,

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what's up. And so it's kind of I mean, it's

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kind of this like hokey view of animism and of

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shamanism and of folk medicine, and it's not really how

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it is. It's like that not all the all these

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indigenous trying.

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Speaker 3: Because when you watch movies, you know, they always present

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it like there's nothing more spiritual and enlightened than primal, archaic,

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archaic revival, primitivist Indian spirituality. Like there's just this mystique

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that is kind of a pop culture creation. Whicheah, there's

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no real basis for because you live in an area

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where this is prevalent, and the boomers fly down there

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to go into their little you know, sex tents and

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get sweaty all weekend and they're basically just getting jypped

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by pseudoshaman, Right, can you touch on that?

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Speaker 1: That's the thing is, it's like that doesn't really exist

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and it didn't really exist in the way that they

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portrayed in Hollywood. Right, they we have this everybody knows

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that Western culture is really screwed up, right, like big pharma.

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Everybody knows that the nature of big farm is to

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go take you know, natural plant compounds, find how they

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can be isolated, patent them, and use them to market

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as drugs, right, like you have fentanyl, you have you know,

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this huge opioid crisis all comes from the opium poppy,

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which is actually pretty difficult to get, like really badly

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addicted to pure opium poppy. It's a lot different, right,

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you know what I'm saying. So they've taken these things

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and they made them so addictive. So everybody knows about

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the bastardization of like nature, the natural, whatever you want

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to call it. I mean, your conception of what nature

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is is so screwed up. In the West, right, and

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you don't even have this they don't even have a

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concept of the fall in the West, right, But yet

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they somehow have this unspoken belief that Western civilization is fallen.

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Yet what's not fallen is animistic religions, shamanism and the

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noble savage myth. Right, Like this thing of it's like

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the opposite, the opposite side of the coin of the

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take up the white man's burden of like Oh, well,

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we're the enlightened white man. We have to go and

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save these savages from this. There's the other side of

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the coin, which is, oh, man, like, our culture is

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so messed up. We suck, We're so screwed up, dude, Like, man,

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it would just be so cool if Pocahontas was still

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kicking it and just like smoking DMT, ripping bong loads

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with your boyfriend with long hair and stuff like, they

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would help us heal the planet. It's like this, this

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is the opposite side of the coin of that. And yeah,

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there's a lot of that kind of packed in here.

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And when you look at most indigenous cultures that are

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still around now, the way that they use these plants,

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it's more and this does get represented in this film,

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the kind of virtual warfare aspect of it. This gets

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represented between the protagonists and the antagonists, between Vincent Cassel

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and Michael Madson's character. That's kind of more how they

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were using these compounds, and it wasn't the whole tribe.

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There would be like one guy within a group of

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you know, maybe ten, fifteen, twenty families that were living

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together tribally, and there was the one guy who was

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the initiated whatever shaman guy who would whisper to the spirits.

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And it wasn't about healing the planet and we're all

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just going to be healed. We all just have to

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heal our trauma. It was about power dynamics, right. It

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was the way that Crowley was using psychedelics is actually

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how indigenous groups were using psychedelics and still use them.

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They used them for power over other people. They use

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them for getting windows into other realms, to get information,

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to get power and strength over the external environment and

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other people in the psychos like the psychologically as well

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as physically.

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Speaker 3: What Matthew McConaughey calls the shack o the Chakras, the

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Chakras fee, the Chakras fere.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 5: Now again though.

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Speaker 3: People have to understand that people thought I was joking

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about the Boomer sex tents, I'm not. You have confirmed

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that as eyewitness account out there peeping with your peepers

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into the Boomer sex tents. All the Tristan out there

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scouts this stuff like reconnaissance intel for us, and he

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sits and watches for hours at night up in a perch.

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He's got a little a little crow's nest perch and

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he watches the boomers for hours on end doing who

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knows what in the tents with the shamans.

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Speaker 1: You gotta do that in the Bill Cosby voice, So.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I know that's true.

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Speaker 1: Like it's it's very abusive. There's very abusive stuff that

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goes on in a lot of these kind of shamanic circles.

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And you're not most a lot of these people are.

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These people are alcoholics too, These people who are running

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ceremonies that get really into the drink. They really like

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the drink. I mean, they're using all sorts of substances

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to gain to try and gain power, and they a

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lot of them come at it from a place of like, oh, look,

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I'm trying to explore I want the truth, I want

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to explore consciousness, whatever, and they end up just becoming

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slaves to hedonism. It ends up a hedonistic endeavor of

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hedonistic power over the environment. And I think a lot

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of it. Referencing Crowley is very, very it's real relevant

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because the exactly because he was doing this before anybody

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and he ended up finding through his own exploration that

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the same way that in shamanic circles they're using dance, drugs,

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and ritual sex. He ended up tying this in with

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Golden Dawn Rituals, which was using a lot of the

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same things as well, and then kind of selling this

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to a lot of the aristocracy in Europe and to

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a lot of the West. Yeah, the macarena exactly. That's

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the most powerful shamonic initiation. Actually, yeah, I'll turn you

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into that.

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Speaker 3: High level, into a sassy little Ricky Martin.

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Speaker 5: Remember your name. Your Indian name is sassy Antelope.

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Speaker 1: I think it was Christy Martin was my Indian name.

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Speaker 5: Your Indian name is fabulous moose. How about hump?

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Speaker 3: How about in honor of John cy Lilly, you could

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be humping dolphin. All right, Why are y'all being so

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tight tonight? Just throw them super chats at me. Put

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them into those go in directly into my bit fund,

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which is my bitcoin hedge fund, to make me a

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competitor with George's shore Ros. And then let's go on

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to where we at. So I'm sorry, I'm getting way

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lost here.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, so he had that he had like that

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scene where Psyche's kind of fractured or whatever.

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Speaker 3: Yes, because he has a trauma memory, he suppressed exactly

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and that and.

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Speaker 1: This is another thing that it shows is that the

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psychedelic experiences are based on trauma. So it gets sold

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in the West a lot of you're gonna you're gonna

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go in You're gonna heal your trauma, right Like, you're

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gonna go in there and you're gonna figure out what

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that trauma was. You're gonna look at it from just

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the right angle, and you're gonna heal it. But there's

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no real framework for healing within this, right, It's like

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you're looking at in the West, Right, you're looking at psychiatrists, psychologists,

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you know, all funded by by who knows who? We

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know who back in the seventies, right, you had Timothy

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Leary was has openly admitted to working with CIA.

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Speaker 2: John C.

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Speaker 1: Lilly was getting state department funding. Was a navy that

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was that was funny.

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Speaker 2: O NI and yeah and CIA.

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Speaker 3: And if if you go and listen to the old

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interview that day with doctor Richard Spence, who wrote his

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book on Crowley's intelligence work, he makes a compelling argument,

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like Tristan was saying that Crowley was probably doing proto

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mk Ultrie style work when he wrote his Drug Diary,

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which people in Britain. Huxley's read that would kind of

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evolve into the nascent British version of him Kulture Tavistock,

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00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,960
this kind of stuff. They were doing the exact same

471
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:11,400
stuff over there. The West in the US was doing

472
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:12,400
the same type of stuff.

473
00:30:13,039 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is what the experience is that people

474
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,640
have when they go into these states. It's this experience

475
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,720
of trauma, right, because it takes away it puts you

476
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,599
in the back seat. Your rational mind kind of takes

477
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:30,240
a back seat, and then experiential phenomenon become really more intense,

478
00:30:30,759 --> 00:30:33,759
and it makes you more impressionable, It makes you more suggestible,

479
00:30:34,119 --> 00:30:37,640
and it opens you up to everything. Right, It's like

480
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,359
the doors of perception open up, they say, And that

481
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,960
actually is true. But what's behind that? Right, what's actually

482
00:30:44,039 --> 00:30:46,119
behind that? Is the question? And I think this is

483
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,240
an interesting film because it does kind of show this

484
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,119
aspect of like spiritual warfare and power dynamics. Is what's

485
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,799
really going on in this and the battles that are

486
00:30:54,839 --> 00:30:57,640
going on, these shamanic battles. It's not just about one

487
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,000
guy healing himself. It's about him taking power from this

488
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,039
other guy who's like the dark sorcerer shaman who says

489
00:31:04,079 --> 00:31:06,119
he wants to be able to kill with his spirit.

490
00:31:06,359 --> 00:31:08,240
Is what he says, Michael matt Is, I want to

491
00:31:08,279 --> 00:31:10,880
be able to kill with my spirit. And I think

492
00:31:11,119 --> 00:31:14,920
Crowley's work he actually did kind of openly talk about

493
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,240
a lot of this. He openly talked about a little bit.

494
00:31:17,319 --> 00:31:20,880
He talked about his use of mescaline and peote, but

495
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,400
he wasn't that explicit in a lot of his stuff

496
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,799
as well. And a lot of these scholars who've looked

497
00:31:25,839 --> 00:31:29,279
deeper at Kroley, and I'm not saying, like cro he's

498
00:31:29,279 --> 00:31:32,720
an idiot, he's a buffood, He's a He wasn't a

499
00:31:32,839 --> 00:31:37,759
power hungry addict who spent his life obsessively putting his

500
00:31:37,799 --> 00:31:39,880
pep in the poo poo and teaching other people how

501
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,240
to do that for power over people. But when you

502
00:31:42,319 --> 00:31:44,119
read like some of the like here's a quote from

503
00:31:44,319 --> 00:31:45,720
the Book of the Law he talks about he says,

504
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,119
I'm the snake that giveth knowledge and delight. Oh that's interesting, right,

505
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,079
the snake that giveth knowledge. Right, So this openly Luciferian

506
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,359
Satanic philosophy there and delight.

507
00:31:55,519 --> 00:31:55,599
Speaker 2: Right.

508
00:31:55,839 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: They always use his words like the Garden of natural

509
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,039
delights and stuff like that. Of this imagery is really

510
00:32:01,119 --> 00:32:04,279
tied in with the psychedelic experiences as well, like a

511
00:32:04,359 --> 00:32:07,960
lot of the old Like the prog bands in the seventies,

512
00:32:08,519 --> 00:32:10,720
they use this imagery a lot of like the Garden

513
00:32:10,799 --> 00:32:14,240
of earthly Delights and stuff like that, about you know,

514
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,160
delighting the senses and really enticing all the senses and

515
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,000
opening up the senses and being really drunk on the senses.

516
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,200
So then then he says, to worship me, take wine

517
00:32:25,359 --> 00:32:29,359
and strange drugs, whereof I will tell my profit and

518
00:32:29,519 --> 00:32:32,599
be drunk thereof they shall not harm you at all.

519
00:32:32,759 --> 00:32:36,640
This is a lie, this folly against self. The exposure

520
00:32:36,759 --> 00:32:39,559
of innocence is a lie. Be strong a man, enjoy

521
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,599
all things of sense and rapture. Fear not that any

522
00:32:43,759 --> 00:32:47,240
gods shall deny me for this. And this quote right here,

523
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,200
this is from the from the Book of the Law

524
00:32:49,559 --> 00:32:53,920
that he's supposedly channeled. And how was he channeling, right,

525
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,039
How was he getting into these states? He was taking

526
00:32:56,119 --> 00:32:59,519
tons of drugs and getting a highly crazy, ecstatic, sexual

527
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,720
richual and then having other people channel and he was

528
00:33:02,799 --> 00:33:04,680
channeling the stuff as well. It was just this big

529
00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:09,960
Hodgepodge of just basically hammering himself with the drugs and

530
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,079
sensory experiences and yoga you call it. He brought yoga

531
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,559
to the West. So this thing of like fear, not

532
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,599
that any God shall deny thee for this is a

533
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,079
really interesting Satanic quote and I think that's colored the

534
00:33:24,119 --> 00:33:27,400
psychedelic movement a lot over the over the decades.

535
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,559
Speaker 5: There, I'm gonna do a little poetry. You ready got

536
00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:33,880
the Snake to the.

537
00:33:34,079 --> 00:33:40,559
Speaker 9: Lake, the Ancient Lake Baby, The Snake is alone, seven

538
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,160
miles ride Snake.

539
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:48,799
Speaker 1: He and Morrison they put Crowley on which album cover

540
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:49,720
was that one of their.

541
00:33:49,599 --> 00:33:53,039
Speaker 3: Album's on the Beatles and he's on h on Her

542
00:33:53,079 --> 00:33:57,000
Majesty's Satanant Requests, Rolling Stones and he's on I don't

543
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,279
know if he's on the Doors, but I think there

544
00:33:59,359 --> 00:34:02,119
is a Crowley Wars connection. But I was just laughing

545
00:34:02,119 --> 00:34:04,759
because what you're when you're reading what his channeling, it

546
00:34:04,839 --> 00:34:07,400
sounded like it sounds like a bull from Jim Morrison,

547
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:07,720
which is.

548
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: Exactly and it's always the same site as the same

549
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:14,400
Uh Satanic Luciferian ideology of the snake is good.

550
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 5: The slithers into the list.

551
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 3: But Jim Morrison sounds like a third grader, and everybody

552
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,440
thinks this, who that's so deep?

553
00:34:21,599 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 5: Dude, he said is long.

554
00:34:27,079 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 2: Was born.

555
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:33,159
Speaker 3: His skin is cold, cold, and he's old. He's old

556
00:34:33,199 --> 00:34:35,239
and his skin is cold and he's bold.

557
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,679
Speaker 1: But dude, I mean, who's like rhybing snake with lake?

558
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:45,880
That's pretty good, that's pretty rare, but yeah, it's funny.

559
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,960
So all the this is, this is really the root

560
00:34:48,079 --> 00:34:52,440
of a lot of the psychedelic experience has not only

561
00:34:52,599 --> 00:34:56,480
been You're primed with all of this media input. So

562
00:34:56,639 --> 00:34:58,800
it doesn't matter where you are, who you are when

563
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,719
you're going into this. If you you've consumed pop culture,

564
00:35:02,159 --> 00:35:06,840
you are going in there preceded with this Luciferian kind

565
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,960
of this Looseferian ideology and satanic ideology has already been

566
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,519
implanted in you culturally, and then you're going to open

567
00:35:12,639 --> 00:35:15,239
up yourself to these spiritual realms. And a lot of

568
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,199
people they go mad with these experiences. They come back

569
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,639
completely psychotic, or they come back psychopathic and they stop,

570
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,280
you know, they say, oh, well I understand everything now,

571
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,480
but just these people they smash their psyche open and

572
00:35:27,559 --> 00:35:30,199
then they come back and they're just basically Jim Moore

573
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,320
like like a slightly dumber version of Jim Morrison. And

574
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,960
this is I don't know what it is, but it

575
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:40,400
definitely seems like more of a spiritual layer that's affecting

576
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,920
this rather than just the just the physical drugs.

577
00:35:43,199 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 3: You're scared of your own psyche man.

578
00:35:45,519 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 5: You're your own worst enemy. Fear is the mind killer.

579
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:48,599
Speaker 2: Man.

580
00:35:48,679 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 3: You're you're afraid of confronting your own demons, and that's

581
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,719
what that's what Psychedelc's forced.

582
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 2: You to do.

583
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 3: Man, You're stuck in your own mental prison. That's literally

584
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,440
how they always cast it to I had countless I'm

585
00:36:01,519 --> 00:36:04,320
not countless, but I've had multiple seven eight acid trips.

586
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,880
I've had two or three bad trips and it was

587
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,360
a nightmare. So no, I have faced my own psychonauts,

588
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,719
slithering Jim Morrison demons right I face.

589
00:36:13,039 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: I think those bad trips actually had to be better

590
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,880
for people than the good ones because when they come,

591
00:36:17,039 --> 00:36:18,559
you come like if you come back from something like

592
00:36:18,599 --> 00:36:20,639
this and you're like, oh, I'm not afraid of anything now,

593
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,159
I'm so awesome, Like I'm gonna do it. I could

594
00:36:23,199 --> 00:36:24,639
do anything, man, I'm not scared.

595
00:36:24,679 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 5: I saw in the world, dude.

596
00:36:26,599 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it all, man, I know everything. It's

597
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,519
like people legit come back like that, like I know

598
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,519
everything and I just know it intuitively. And it's like

599
00:36:34,679 --> 00:36:38,119
it's such a delusion. It's such prelest. It's so freaking demonic.

600
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,800
And they think that every thought that pops into their

601
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,920
head after these experience true, like this is genius and

602
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,119
true nobody's ever thought this in the ever and you

603
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,840
end up like Joe Rogan's like, oh, man, isn't an

604
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,239
amazing that? Like, dude, we have cell phones and like, oh,

605
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,360
it's so weird. We can like call each other. We're

606
00:36:55,559 --> 00:36:58,519
so evolved. We were monkeys and now we have cell phones.

607
00:36:58,559 --> 00:37:00,599
Do we're God's We're gonna be odds bro.

608
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:08,079
Speaker 9: Fucking dude, plastic fucking magic instrument. It's like, dude, do

609
00:37:08,159 --> 00:37:10,559
you realize that this thing right here is like a

610
00:37:10,679 --> 00:37:13,159
magic one that can take a thought and put it

611
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:14,079
onto a paper.

612
00:37:14,199 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 2: Bro? But dude, your.

613
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,639
Speaker 1: Thoughts, like when you put your thoughts out into the world,

614
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:25,559
it manifests reality. I mean, it's these are the most

615
00:37:25,639 --> 00:37:27,320
like what do you what are you in sixth grade?

616
00:37:27,559 --> 00:37:30,039
What do you just realize that language is freaking amazing?

617
00:37:30,119 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 2: Dude?

618
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 1: We all know this. This is all stuff. It's like

619
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,000
you're not the first person to ever experience like I just.

620
00:37:36,039 --> 00:37:36,559
Speaker 5: Had a thought.

621
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: We're all one.

622
00:37:38,559 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 5: What we're all one?

623
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,159
Speaker 2: WHOA, I'm you, you're me.

624
00:37:43,639 --> 00:37:44,159
Speaker 5: We're all one.

625
00:37:46,199 --> 00:37:48,039
Speaker 1: I am you and you are me, and we're a

626
00:37:48,119 --> 00:37:48,960
happy family.

627
00:37:49,119 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 3: Dude, like Barnie Barney level philosophy, right, exactly, I.

628
00:37:53,039 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 8: Am you, you are me.

629
00:37:54,159 --> 00:37:57,760
Speaker 1: We're a happy family, and we just need to like

630
00:37:58,199 --> 00:38:01,039
be cool and save ourselves. Doude because like there's no God.

631
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 3: By the way, as you know, all of these idiots

632
00:38:04,039 --> 00:38:06,480
are then also vegans within a day or two.

633
00:38:07,639 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 1: Well, this is another thing that comes up. It's like

634
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:13,239
you there's this weird guilt thing that's still there, that

635
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,800
knowledge of sin. I think it is really right. It's

636
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,960
like we know that we're falling, we know that we sin,

637
00:38:19,679 --> 00:38:21,880
but there's something about that state that can put people

638
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,159
in such a deluded prelst and then they come back

639
00:38:25,199 --> 00:38:26,760
and they think they're so enlightened and they're going to

640
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,000
save the world and all there. Terence McKenna.

641
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 7: It's like, if I have this this notion, if I

642
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:36,199
could just do the perfect action always, then the whole

643
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:41,280
universe would crystallize and do a perfect giant dildo crystal

644
00:38:41,639 --> 00:38:43,119
and would penetrate the void.

645
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,599
Speaker 3: And we could always sound like he was smoking some

646
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,599
bildos quite a bit. Actually he does. They're smoking a

647
00:38:49,639 --> 00:38:50,400
lot of dildos.

648
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 2: And he was.

649
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:55,639
Speaker 3: Supposedly a pan pan lover, if you know what I mean. Supposedly,

650
00:38:56,159 --> 00:38:57,960
by the way, in his book in Front of the Gods,

651
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,360
which I do have a lecture on in the Jason

652
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:05,400
Alyson's archives, he says he does say that LSD and

653
00:39:05,559 --> 00:39:10,199
shrooms are like a version of the They're like a Satanic,

654
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,800
Luciferian gnostic version of the Lord's Supper.

655
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 5: That's the way he casts it.

656
00:39:15,039 --> 00:39:18,599
Speaker 3: He says, he says that eating and doing hallucinogens is

657
00:39:18,639 --> 00:39:22,360
the tree of knowledge again exactly which, by the way,

658
00:39:22,559 --> 00:39:27,039
when you say that to people who are big fans

659
00:39:27,079 --> 00:39:30,079
of this stuff, oh bro, you're scared, like they mock

660
00:39:30,159 --> 00:39:32,719
you when you're saying the very things that these guys say, right,

661
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,480
I mean, they say that you're scared content with demons,

662
00:39:35,519 --> 00:39:37,719
You'll speak the demons, You'll speak to aliens and entities.

663
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: Johnny, you're just such a pussy. You just don't realize

664
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,519
that you're a god. Bro. I realize I'm God and

665
00:39:43,639 --> 00:39:46,400
you're just afraid because you know I'm God deep down inside.

666
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 5: I'm a God. Bro, you're a pussy. I'm a God,

667
00:39:50,519 --> 00:39:52,079
and I'm more of a God than you are.

668
00:39:52,119 --> 00:39:54,199
Speaker 1: Dude, because you know you haven't gotten rid of your

669
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:55,119
huge ass ego.

670
00:39:55,199 --> 00:39:57,039
Speaker 3: Dude, I'll be like, well, if we're all one, then

671
00:39:57,079 --> 00:39:58,239
i'm you and I'm also a God.

672
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,199
Speaker 1: But it's it's it's really delusional, and this is this

673
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,800
is and I don't know if it's that these things

674
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,519
are actually inherently bad, right, because it's I mean, all right,

675
00:40:08,599 --> 00:40:11,559
so looking at like God created everything and he created

676
00:40:11,599 --> 00:40:14,920
things good, but is it the cultural context.

677
00:40:14,599 --> 00:40:17,679
Speaker 3: Of us you put everything in your mouth like God's.

678
00:40:17,119 --> 00:40:18,639
Speaker 1: Right, right, You're not supposed to put everything in your

679
00:40:18,679 --> 00:40:21,840
mouth right for sure. But but but it's so funny

680
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:26,039
because it's like there's this cultural dynamic that's constantly reinforcing

681
00:40:26,079 --> 00:40:29,159
this and pushing people towards these beliefs of this this

682
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,760
like gnostic religion like you mentioned, and so yeah, the film,

683
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,840
the film is very gnostic, the Renegade film. So anyways,

684
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,880
that what happens next to that he gets wounded.

685
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,519
Speaker 3: And then that it is but I think what trips

686
00:40:41,599 --> 00:40:45,320
a lot of people up even with gnostic type movies

687
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,440
or TV shows that have spiritual themes or you know,

688
00:40:48,559 --> 00:40:51,360
twin peaks, they'll show you a lot of things that

689
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,920
are kind of accurate in terms of like the spiritual world.

690
00:40:54,079 --> 00:40:57,639
Speaker 5: I think, right, so when you're when he's on this

691
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:58,519
this this.

692
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 3: Journey, the spiritual trip, and he's seeing into the spiritual realm,

693
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,480
I think there's truth to that. I mean again, if

694
00:41:04,519 --> 00:41:06,760
you've had bad trips, if you've had good trips, if

695
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,599
you have done that stuff, you know, you can see

696
00:41:08,639 --> 00:41:10,360
how people come to that conclusion. I was just on

697
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,440
a podcast the other day and it was a dude

698
00:41:13,519 --> 00:41:16,559
talking about trips and he was like how he said,

699
00:41:16,639 --> 00:41:18,880
I think that it's all symbolic.

700
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 5: And it's just your mind creating it all man.

701
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 3: And my argument against that is, if it's only your

702
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:28,079
mind just randomly creating the symbols and the archetypes, if

703
00:41:28,079 --> 00:41:30,360
there's not a spiritual reality to it, then why does

704
00:41:30,519 --> 00:41:35,119
every tribe or every shamanic tradition have the same patterns

705
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,800
in their religious.

706
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:38,079
Speaker 5: Rights and rituals.

707
00:41:38,119 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 3: Why does every time you go into this other realm

708
00:41:40,519 --> 00:41:43,239
and you get dissected by the gods and then you

709
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,599
get put back together and you come back with a

710
00:41:46,039 --> 00:41:48,639
spirit that helps you your avatar, familiar spirit.

711
00:41:48,679 --> 00:41:51,159
Speaker 5: I mean, it's always the same process of initiation.

712
00:41:52,039 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 3: I mean, not every single detail, but the basic pattern

713
00:41:55,679 --> 00:41:59,679
Merkia Iliada has shown in his study of shamanism.

714
00:41:59,119 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 1: All over the world.

715
00:42:00,559 --> 00:42:02,559
Speaker 3: Why is that it wouldn't be I mean, if it

716
00:42:02,639 --> 00:42:05,840
was just everybody's mind just making up whatever, it wouldn't

717
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:06,320
be that way.

718
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:07,599
Speaker 2: There would be about this too.

719
00:42:07,639 --> 00:42:10,039
Speaker 1: People people go into these things and they'll see the

720
00:42:10,119 --> 00:42:13,039
same thing with that they're not communicating it with each

721
00:42:13,039 --> 00:42:17,840
other verbally, but they are having similar and actually having

722
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,840
nonverbal communication. And what they were studying, they're trying to

723
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,360
figure out, like are there these like telepathic abilities that

724
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,000
these are giving people? And they even named a molecule

725
00:42:27,199 --> 00:42:32,360
molecule telepathene. Telepathene. What are these molecules? It's in ayahuasca.

726
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,199
So it's these things they do have they do open

727
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,559
people up to something that I believe is absolutely real. Uh,

728
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,039
And that's why there's so many similar experiences there. Now

729
00:42:42,119 --> 00:42:45,840
the question becomes, what are these people really doing there

730
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,000
and what's going on now? I mean, that's that's a

731
00:42:49,159 --> 00:42:51,360
lot deeper of a subject, right, Like, what what is

732
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,079
it that they're experiencing? Is it just fragments of your

733
00:42:54,079 --> 00:42:58,239
psyche or whatever, or is this like these actual demonic

734
00:42:58,320 --> 00:42:59,239
spiritual realms?

735
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 3: Right and well, and as we're going to see not

736
00:43:02,159 --> 00:43:05,519
just here but even in Altered States with its completely

737
00:43:06,199 --> 00:43:11,079
also gnostic Luciferian perspective, there's all the traits and characteristics

738
00:43:11,159 --> 00:43:14,840
of something demonic present, and it's just ignored.

739
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,079
Speaker 5: Everyone just ignores this.

740
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,039
Speaker 3: Like I remember there's a dude one time he went

741
00:43:19,119 --> 00:43:21,400
with the two buddies of mine from high school. I

742
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,960
didn't go with them on this, but there's they went

743
00:43:24,039 --> 00:43:26,960
to Europe on a just a backpacking thing to have

744
00:43:27,079 --> 00:43:29,960
fun back when they were in their twenties, and they

745
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,679
were standing at a hostel and they bought some shrooms

746
00:43:33,039 --> 00:43:36,199
from somebody being idiots, and one of the dudes had

747
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,760
a like a violent just he went he was trying

748
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,320
to eat my buddy, no joke, like he was attacking him,

749
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,559
trying to bite him, acting like a monster, just like

750
00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:49,559
William Hurt will act like acting like an ape, acting

751
00:43:49,599 --> 00:43:52,599
like a hungry eight great eight right. And then he

752
00:43:52,679 --> 00:43:54,800
came out of this, He came out of this experience

753
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,800
and had he had no recollection of this, And my

754
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,679
other buddy was like, dude, you just tried to eat

755
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,679
me For the last forty five minut you were growling

756
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,639
and grunting like an animal.

757
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: That or did he ever recover from that? Some people

758
00:44:08,519 --> 00:44:10,920
go through this and they like, we have those blackouts

759
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,519
and then they're always a little bit off.

760
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,760
Speaker 5: I will tell you that this person.

761
00:44:17,159 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 3: Did not end up well, I don't think so. Yeah,

762
00:44:21,679 --> 00:44:23,519
these people can't be healed from any of these kinds

763
00:44:23,519 --> 00:44:26,000
of things. But you're right that if you go back

764
00:44:26,079 --> 00:44:31,239
to John Marx's book M k Ultro Search for Entering Candidate,

765
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,960
he has a chapter where he talks about Eldus Huxley

766
00:44:35,079 --> 00:44:38,519
discussing the fact that they were really interested in the

767
00:44:38,599 --> 00:44:41,920
anthea gens and the shrooms and all that because it

768
00:44:42,079 --> 00:44:45,480
had the effect of creating dissociation.

769
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,639
Speaker 1: So they called it psychotomimetic drugs.

770
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,039
Speaker 3: They were looking for schizo inducing drug and in fact,

771
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,519
when we get to Alter States at the beginning, that's

772
00:44:54,599 --> 00:44:57,480
what William Hurt even says. He's like, I'm looking for

773
00:44:57,639 --> 00:45:01,679
the perfect schizo inducing, you know, explanation drugs, Like he

774
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,440
wants to be able to control and explain that experience.

775
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,599
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, no, and then this is what's so now

776
00:45:07,679 --> 00:45:10,559
I'm not I'm also not saying that people can't have

777
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,079
beneficial experiences and maybe become better people after this. But

778
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,800
is that because there's some magical you know, shamanic realm

779
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,360
and the shamans are healing you. I would say that's

780
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,239
not the case. I'd say that's because of the grace

781
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,400
of God. By the grace of God, people can be healed, right,

782
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,519
I mean it's not I think some of that. That's

783
00:45:27,519 --> 00:45:30,039
why I said earlier some of the best sometimes those

784
00:45:30,119 --> 00:45:32,360
bad trips that people have are the ones where they

785
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,119
actually see how screwed up they are and actually see

786
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:36,239
really what's going on.

787
00:45:36,519 --> 00:45:38,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, good things can come out of bad, but that

788
00:45:38,599 --> 00:45:40,800
doesn't mean I do bad to bring about good things.

789
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,519
Speaker 1: That's crazy exactly. But this is like the constantly trying

790
00:45:43,559 --> 00:45:46,960
to induce this state and then becoming obsessed with it.

791
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,360
I think you see a lot of people and this

792
00:45:49,559 --> 00:45:53,960
in the film Renegade Blueberry or whatever, the guy this

793
00:45:54,119 --> 00:45:55,119
is his mode of healing.

794
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 2: Right.

795
00:45:55,599 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 1: So in the beginning, the girl, the prostitute that he

796
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,280
goes and see, she gives them the cross, right. The

797
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,519
girl who asked him if he believes in God, which

798
00:46:02,599 --> 00:46:04,559
is a really I mean it's it's a funny thing

799
00:46:04,639 --> 00:46:08,960
because this is kind of the new Western mythos about God.

800
00:46:09,159 --> 00:46:12,599
Is like it's this impersonal.

801
00:46:14,039 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 2: What was it?

802
00:46:14,599 --> 00:46:15,599
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's more of.

803
00:46:15,599 --> 00:46:18,679
Speaker 5: A yeah, it's the false.

804
00:46:20,519 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 1: As if you believe in God.

805
00:46:23,039 --> 00:46:24,519
Speaker 5: You don't need a person on God.

806
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:30,159
Speaker 3: This isn't the godd'll looking for, obi Wan, it's the force.

807
00:46:30,679 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 5: Obi Wan. Actually, thank you.

808
00:46:32,559 --> 00:46:36,119
Speaker 1: I don't like gay as movies like Star Wars. That

809
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:36,679
was nothing.

810
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,039
Speaker 3: That's funny because I've been telepathically emailing to you in

811
00:46:40,119 --> 00:46:42,920
my mind that I think that your name is Queer

812
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,239
Gerbil in Indian.

813
00:46:44,599 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 2: So I've noticed that you.

814
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,679
Speaker 5: We were trying to figure out your Indian name, and

815
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:51,519
I had some good ones.

816
00:46:51,559 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 3: I like Queer Gerbil the best, though, but maybe I

817
00:46:54,679 --> 00:46:55,400
like that Gerbil.

818
00:46:56,039 --> 00:46:59,079
Speaker 1: I knew a guy in college that people used to

819
00:46:59,159 --> 00:47:02,239
call Gerbil, and they called them Gurabil because whenever somebody

820
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,920
got acid, they would make him eat it first to

821
00:47:05,039 --> 00:47:05,360
test it.

822
00:47:06,519 --> 00:47:07,079
Speaker 8: How messed up?

823
00:47:07,199 --> 00:47:07,639
Speaker 2: Is that right?

824
00:47:08,039 --> 00:47:09,639
Speaker 1: But this guy, like this was a fun You know,

825
00:47:09,639 --> 00:47:14,960
I'm eighteen years old and I remember that these people,

826
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,159
they would they would pick.

827
00:47:16,039 --> 00:47:16,559
Speaker 2: On this dude.

828
00:47:16,639 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: Right, it was a funny dynamic. So all these people,

829
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,000
they're everyone's tripping out, everyone's taking mushrooms and doing stuff

830
00:47:21,039 --> 00:47:25,199
like that, and but it's it's like seventh grade power

831
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,360
dynamics at the same time, while these people so extrapolated

832
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,000
that with a bunch of you know, busted up people

833
00:47:31,679 --> 00:47:34,199
who are thirty forty years old and who have learned

834
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,639
even more manipulation techniques over the years and weird social

835
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,079
games that they play with people and just more demonically

836
00:47:40,199 --> 00:47:42,360
charged over the years. And then they get ahold of

837
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,480
these drugs and started ministering them to other people in

838
00:47:45,599 --> 00:47:49,239
a group setting right where there's weird power dynamics and

839
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,519
you can you know, people are inebriated, people worship you

840
00:47:52,599 --> 00:47:54,360
a little bit. They think you're some like, you know,

841
00:47:54,519 --> 00:47:57,280
bridge to God. And that's that's kind of what you

842
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:01,679
see in the uh in the plant medicine community, right,

843
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:06,760
just basically a bunch of yeah with yeah, seventh graders,

844
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:08,719
Like imagine like all the kids you knew in seventh

845
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:13,119
grade who've been given very very powerful mind altering drugs.

846
00:48:13,519 --> 00:48:18,840
That's that's kind of like the the so yeah seventh graders, right,

847
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,679
Like that's like the level of a development of most people.

848
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,360
Now you know what I'm saying. It's like they're there.

849
00:48:25,519 --> 00:48:27,079
They're still the same as they were when they were

850
00:48:27,159 --> 00:48:28,679
like thirteen fourteen most people.

851
00:48:29,079 --> 00:48:34,519
Speaker 3: Right, Oh yeah, definitely Evan seventeen seventy six. For July fourth,

852
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,559
he says, I'm so glad that Tristan is on. I

853
00:48:37,679 --> 00:48:43,360
need him to promote my plant based Italian cured meat alternative.

854
00:48:44,039 --> 00:48:50,440
We call it a salame lagume o salame lagume salama.

855
00:48:53,119 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 5: Nice.

856
00:48:54,199 --> 00:48:55,119
Speaker 2: So what what? What? All?

857
00:48:55,159 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: Right? So what else happened with this this movie?

858
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,639
Speaker 3: So they uh, let me, let me read a couple

859
00:48:58,639 --> 00:49:00,159
of the super chats and then waking back to so

860
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,199
Alex Tremo. He Alex sends five bucks and he says,

861
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,679
I donated because Jay told me to.

862
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,199
Speaker 5: Well, then donate again.

863
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: Right, that's not enough.

864
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:16,679
Speaker 3: Donate your mama's savings, donate your grandpappy's golden musket from

865
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:17,360
the Civil.

866
00:49:17,159 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: War, bro orgage your house, maybe.

867
00:49:20,199 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 3: Splitteth since three dollars, and he says people use DMT

868
00:49:24,639 --> 00:49:28,039
in pagan context. Is it possible that DMT could be

869
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:32,320
used to open up one two angelic influences? Yes, because

870
00:49:32,599 --> 00:49:37,039
demons are angels bro uh or could you gain godly insight?

871
00:49:37,199 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 5: Again?

872
00:49:37,679 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 3: We don't want to do bad to bring about good, right,

873
00:49:41,079 --> 00:49:46,000
Those are not the ordained means to go about getting enlightenment.

874
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:46,519
Speaker 2: Right.

875
00:49:47,559 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 5: You will gain far more enlightenment.

876
00:49:49,599 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 3: Reading your Bible than you will trying to speak to

877
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,599
Terrence McKenna and the machine clockwork, queer elves.

878
00:49:58,239 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: You're not going to keep You're not going to keep

879
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,239
these uh. You think you get these like great revelations.

880
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 2: You don't.

881
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 1: It's you don't keep this stuff. And it's it's more

882
00:50:06,679 --> 00:50:08,840
feeling that It's like your feelings get played.

883
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 5: I remember one of my trips.

884
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 3: I thought I was having like the most profound Star

885
00:50:13,079 --> 00:50:15,719
Wars philosophy insight. I would watch Star Wars and I

886
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,760
was tripping, and I drew a bunch of stuff and

887
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,440
wrote some notes. And then the next day I looked

888
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,400
at my notes and it was like I had drawn uh,

889
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:27,400
Chewbacca with giant eyes and it said Ewok. And so

890
00:50:27,599 --> 00:50:31,639
my my brilliant genius thought was that Chewbacca was like

891
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,840
a Harry and the Henderson's version of an Ewok.

892
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,679
Speaker 1: That was my It's like if the Ewoks got acid

893
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,559
and and they got more, they hyper accelerated their evolutions

894
00:50:42,639 --> 00:50:44,599
through acid, it would become Chewbaca.

895
00:50:44,639 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 5: That's it.

896
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:48,199
Speaker 3: So if you're looking for insight into you know, Yetty's,

897
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,039
then you want to you want to be tripping. But

898
00:50:51,519 --> 00:50:54,000
other than that, you're not gonna get anything profound. You're

899
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,320
gonna get the same old crap that every damn shaman

900
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:57,039
has ever said.

901
00:50:57,679 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 1: One bro, it's like, no, you come back to like

902
00:51:00,039 --> 00:51:02,639
everything's okay for like three days, and then you're right

903
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,480
back to where you were and remember you're.

904
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 5: Like, you don't remember.

905
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 3: By the way, William Hurt, he didn't remember anything.

906
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 5: He's like, I remember what I was doing? What happened?

907
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 3: He's having mental breakdowns, grunting, acting like a possessed.

908
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,599
Speaker 1: Ape, scorpions and stuff.

909
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:24,679
Speaker 5: Right, Uh so I'm sorry, So back to Blueberry Okay?

910
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, so so he what happened is so he got

911
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,280
nailed and then Michael Madison's character comes in and he's

912
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:31,400
seeking spiritual power.

913
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,039
Speaker 10: He's trying to find the white Sorcerer, right, So you

914
00:51:34,159 --> 00:51:40,039
got the white man, right versus red man and Vincent Gallows,

915
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,519
not the rapper, right, Vincent Gallows in between and not

916
00:51:43,679 --> 00:51:44,440
the tobacco.

917
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 3: Naw, why do I keep saying that who's Vincent.

918
00:51:50,679 --> 00:51:51,079
Speaker 11: Don't even.

919
00:51:52,559 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 2: That man.

920
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 1: Vincent Lewis, Julia Lewis's daddy is like some sort of

921
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,039
a guy in the town. I mean, every everything that

922
00:51:59,079 --> 00:52:01,360
happens here is pretty much inconsequential until they get to

923
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,320
the end of the film, right. They're all chasing the

924
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:04,360
treasure or whatever the.

925
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:10,599
Speaker 3: Look this treasure and it ends up being a sorcerer's battle.

926
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,559
Speaker 1: Yes, so they have to go to the Holy Mountains

927
00:52:13,599 --> 00:52:15,280
and all the Indians are like, no, we can't go.

928
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:16,719
We have to let them go.

929
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:21,679
Speaker 3: Now, it's like an indigenous Saramon versus Gandolf.

930
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,519
Speaker 1: Basically he has to find like the secret cave where

931
00:52:24,559 --> 00:52:27,679
all the ayahuasca is basically, right, So Vincent Gasel dives

932
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,519
into a big pond and then comes up in this

933
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,639
underground cave, right, like goes into.

934
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 3: The underworld, you know water portals, going through the waterboards

935
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:38,119
and swims into this thing.

936
00:52:38,679 --> 00:52:41,679
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. He leaves his hat like his hat's floating

937
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,840
in the water, and Julia luisies his hat. He's like,

938
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:47,000
where's my man? So he goes in there and he

939
00:52:47,079 --> 00:52:51,480
finds Michael Madson's already there, and then Michael Madson takes

940
00:52:51,559 --> 00:52:54,039
like a thing made out of bone with like some

941
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,800
indigenous stuff on it and drinks this I don't know,

942
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,280
probably made with a human bone, and there's like petrified

943
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,880
indians in there and stuff, and he drinks the ayahuasca

944
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,800
and lays down on the ground. And then then what

945
00:53:08,079 --> 00:53:10,519
like his little buddy was there too, the indigenous shamans there.

946
00:53:10,559 --> 00:53:13,639
He's like, ha, he's sitting there just tripping out, waiting,

947
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,679
like that's just what he's doing. He just hangs out

948
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,119
there and waits for the white men to come and

949
00:53:18,599 --> 00:53:21,920
have their sorcerer battles with the ayahuasca. So at this point,

950
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:23,880
like it doesn't make any sense, but it's kind of

951
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,719
I don't know, it's it's kind of interesting the way

952
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,280
it's shot and stuff. Some of the cinematography is all right.

953
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,320
Then Vincent Cassel drinks it, lays down and they have

954
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,239
a sorcerer battle in the ether.

955
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,199
Speaker 5: Exactly right by the way.

956
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 3: So Vincent gallow is like a grosser look looking Vincent Cassel.

957
00:53:43,039 --> 00:53:45,159
They look they look similar, They're both about the same.

958
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,079
They both look nasty, except.

959
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 1: That those looks like they would be chasing after Juliet Lewis.

960
00:53:52,199 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 5: They look Vincent Gallo looks like a uh a dead hipster.

961
00:53:58,559 --> 00:54:02,559
Speaker 3: Basically, I'll show you what I mean so you'll see

962
00:54:02,559 --> 00:54:03,760
why I was getting confused.

963
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 5: So there is Casselle.

964
00:54:07,199 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: Vincent Casselle looks like a like a Premie Matthew McConaughey.

965
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:13,519
Speaker 5: Yes, he looks like yeah.

966
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 3: See, I mean they're both kind of they're both looking

967
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:17,280
pretty gross.

968
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 1: But yeah, I can't see I know. Okay, did you

969
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,239
think maybe if I took ano d MT i'd be

970
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:28,119
able to see him right now?

971
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just take my word for it, dude, all right,

972
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:32,760
all right.

973
00:54:32,679 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: So they fall into the ether together and they have

974
00:54:34,559 --> 00:54:37,800
a battle, and then Vincent Cassell sees what really happened

975
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:42,360
in the shootout thing, and what happened was gasp, Vincent

976
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:51,000
Cassell actually shot the hooker on accident. Likes, yeah, Madson

977
00:54:51,159 --> 00:54:52,960
shoots him in the in the arm, and then he

978
00:54:53,119 --> 00:54:55,960
jerks away and shoots the prostitute and she dies and

979
00:54:56,039 --> 00:54:58,920
it's all his fault and he couldn't deal with it,

980
00:54:59,079 --> 00:55:03,599
so he suppress the memory. But the medicine helped him

981
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,320
to see the memories. But there's no it's funny because

982
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,199
it's just like, oh, if you just see it and

983
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,039
you're high enough, then you're gonna be healed from it.

984
00:55:11,639 --> 00:55:13,920
But where where is this healing coming from?

985
00:55:14,559 --> 00:55:15,280
Speaker 2: What? What is that?

986
00:55:16,639 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like if you remember there was a there

987
00:55:21,119 --> 00:55:24,320
was a stage where Vincent Gallo had to do the

988
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:29,559
trip with his trailer tears shaman buddy there who helped

989
00:55:29,599 --> 00:55:32,280
him write. He sang that song and it like he

990
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:36,880
pulled the the big roach insect thing out of him.

991
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 5: You remember that.

992
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, because his songs get to they control the spirits.

993
00:55:41,599 --> 00:55:43,920
And this is another kind of aspect of kind of

994
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:45,800
the this is I mean the Crowley stuff too, right,

995
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:46,760
like using.

996
00:55:46,639 --> 00:55:50,679
Speaker 3: That that's actually an ancient Hindu idea that uh and

997
00:55:51,199 --> 00:55:53,960
Buddhists have it too, that you can It's kind of

998
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,199
like somatics. You know how cymatics the sound produces certain

999
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:01,000
geometric forms. Sounds do notes. So the idea here is

1000
00:56:01,039 --> 00:56:06,960
that if when you sing certain notes, you're invoking certain powers. Uh,

1001
00:56:07,159 --> 00:56:11,679
you're you're kind of bringing them into David I types, vibration,

1002
00:56:12,159 --> 00:56:14,320
vibrational reality, fall of sense reality.

1003
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 5: It's old vibrations, this kind of stuff.

1004
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 3: So you got when you sing that note, you're you're

1005
00:56:19,159 --> 00:56:22,320
bringing that spirit into reality.

1006
00:56:23,039 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 1: But who teaches them that those same spirits. So they

1007
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,159
go into these states, they get taught this by the

1008
00:56:29,199 --> 00:56:31,800
spirit they believe. They usually believe their ancestral spirits, right

1009
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,239
like in the Shamans, and they get taught this by

1010
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,400
you know, their their parents will initiate.

1011
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 3: Tristan likes me, Tristan's really get Tristan's like just me right,

1012
00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:43,599
that kind of stuff exactly.

1013
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:48,599
Speaker 1: That's actually that's a really powerful invocation. That's very very strong.

1014
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,280
It might conjure up my chatterbait.

1015
00:56:52,119 --> 00:56:56,639
Speaker 3: My secret your old account be popping up chatterbait account

1016
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,280
pop Tristan's old accounts.

1017
00:56:59,679 --> 00:57:02,079
Speaker 1: They give you say bloody Mary fifty times if you sing,

1018
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,079
if you chant that twenty times, you see my old

1019
00:57:04,159 --> 00:57:09,559
chatter by in the in the underground cave area right there,

1020
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,440
there is like a petrified like a mummy. There's a

1021
00:57:13,599 --> 00:57:16,199
mummy in there, which I think is a really interesting

1022
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:20,039
thing because you've got this connection to ancestral spirits and

1023
00:57:20,079 --> 00:57:22,920
this idea of the spirit of the ancestors is what

1024
00:57:23,039 --> 00:57:26,639
we're contacting, and our ancestral spirits are informing us and

1025
00:57:26,719 --> 00:57:28,639
guiding us. And a lot of these Shamans believe that

1026
00:57:28,719 --> 00:57:32,400
their ancestral spirits are the ones that give them their powers.

1027
00:57:32,519 --> 00:57:35,719
Speaker 3: Right, by the way, since they all believe in trickster spirits,

1028
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:39,519
why does anybody believe any spirit that they're contacting.

1029
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: All the rest of our trick and spirits. But their

1030
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,440
ancestral spirits are real though.

1031
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 3: You know, they tell me to you know, grab my

1032
00:57:46,119 --> 00:57:48,360
family's butts and to sacrifice.

1033
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,159
Speaker 1: And they come as like jaguars and stuff. It's like, oh,

1034
00:57:50,239 --> 00:57:52,199
I know it's my father because it was a jaguar.

1035
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,519
It's like, wait, what these people say stuff?

1036
00:57:54,599 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 5: They call him little jaguar.

1037
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,039
Speaker 1: He was a little jaguar. But I mean it's it's

1038
00:57:59,079 --> 00:58:00,480
really sad, like so a lot of these people you

1039
00:58:00,559 --> 00:58:02,679
talk to them, and it's when we talked about the

1040
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:06,760
initial initiation in this involved the fracturing of the psyche, right,

1041
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:11,039
and these drugs have always been used as initiation ritual tools,

1042
00:58:11,679 --> 00:58:15,039
and the ritual setting is what really tends to set

1043
00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:18,320
up people, like what a Timothy Leary said, like set

1044
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,679
and setting right, And that's that's what these people were

1045
00:58:21,719 --> 00:58:24,800
obsessed with ritual magic because that's a way of inducing

1046
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:29,079
a specific spiritual set and setting through like invocation, through chanting,

1047
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,960
through action and whatever. Putting the peep in the poo

1048
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,400
poo and all this stuff. Jay knows more about this.

1049
00:58:34,519 --> 00:58:38,760
You can ask him about like exactly those type of things.

1050
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:43,400
But yeah, it's it's about it's about power.

1051
00:58:43,599 --> 00:58:45,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, and when you ask me all those things, I'm

1052
00:58:45,519 --> 00:58:48,079
just gonna link you to Tristan's old accounts.

1053
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 5: He doesn't want people knowing about that he mentioned.

1054
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:55,039
Speaker 3: So that'll teach you directly. You can see visual aids

1055
00:58:55,159 --> 00:58:55,719
about all that.

1056
00:58:56,559 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: And that's actually what the occusual. That was my chatter name.

1057
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:01,760
It's visual aids.

1058
00:59:01,679 --> 00:59:06,519
Speaker 3: With aids, visual visual h plus aids.

1059
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: That was my that's my underground name. That was my

1060
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:22,760
stripper name, Little Aids. That that's the best rapper name,

1061
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:23,440
Little Aids.

1062
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 3: He doesn't he's gotten the aids, but he's cute about

1063
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,320
it because it's ads.

1064
00:59:31,119 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: So they're in there and they've got the they've got

1065
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,719
the mummy of their ancestors, which and it's kind of funny,

1066
00:59:35,719 --> 00:59:38,000
and there's also they showed some other kind of symbols.

1067
00:59:38,039 --> 00:59:40,119
Of course, there's a triangle with a little man like

1068
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:44,519
meditating the triangle as they showed. And yeah, so then

1069
00:59:44,639 --> 00:59:47,199
they battle it out. He sees the truth and then

1070
00:59:47,239 --> 00:59:50,280
Michael Madsen's character dies because he takes back his power

1071
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:50,800
or something.

1072
00:59:51,639 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 5: Yes, uh, let's see hell Bug. I don't know what

1073
00:59:57,119 --> 00:59:58,199
the hell bug enters him.

1074
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,079
Speaker 3: The snake tricks instead of the Matrix. There's a magic

1075
01:00:01,159 --> 01:00:05,440
battle trauma. I was gonna sing a Matrix Indian song,

1076
01:00:05,519 --> 01:00:09,840
but I couldn't please do how the Indian song went,

1077
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:11,480
but it was I was laughing when I was listening

1078
01:00:11,519 --> 01:00:13,760
to because it was funny. But now I forget.

1079
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 5: No I could remember remember Enigma. This movie is like Enigma, right,

1080
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:24,559
return to inno sense? Hey, yeah, hi, Hi, remember that.

1081
01:00:26,039 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: That song? Huh that's what I don't know that song?

1082
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:29,599
You're about a boomer.

1083
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 5: That's what this movie is like. If if Enigma was

1084
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,039
tripping acid, that's this movie.

1085
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: It's like if you you gave acid to uh to

1086
01:00:39,719 --> 01:00:45,679
uh not's very far. That's very farthing. That's like Western

1087
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:49,400
themed so cow theme park. That's very far on acid.

1088
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,400
That's the end. Right, Well then you then it's like

1089
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:58,159
juliette Lewis is swimming in a pool and Vincent Cassel

1090
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,400
is swimming towards He gets liberated and now he can

1091
01:01:01,519 --> 01:01:03,079
finally love.

1092
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 3: Juliet, liberated from the chick. But now he finds real

1093
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:06,960
love I see.

1094
01:01:07,159 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, before he's liberated and the spirit of the Prostitute

1095
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,280
comes and kisses him and releases him from the bondage,

1096
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,280
and he takes his power back from Eagle shaman man

1097
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:21,599
and he goes in the pool and swims towards Juliette

1098
01:01:21,639 --> 01:01:26,119
Lewis's spread eagle bush and and the last one of

1099
01:01:26,119 --> 01:01:29,639
the last shots, it's just Juliet Lewis like spread eagle

1100
01:01:29,679 --> 01:01:34,079
with her. Let's going right up towards her her Johnny.

1101
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 5: Juliet Lewis doing the eagle.

1102
01:01:38,559 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1103
01:01:39,119 --> 01:01:42,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, So if you want to see Juliet Lewis's spread

1104
01:01:42,719 --> 01:01:46,679
Eagle bush, you can watch this movie, or you could

1105
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:49,079
or you could just go to Nasberry for him on acid.

1106
01:01:49,079 --> 01:01:51,000
You probably see Juliet Lewis's bush there too.

1107
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 3: This movie reminded me kind of of The Fountain a

1108
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:57,880
little bit, remember that with Hugh Jackman and Rachel Weiss,

1109
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:01,079
the Darren Aronofsky film, which is a weird mix of

1110
01:02:02,559 --> 01:02:09,199
ancient Aztec philosophy religion with Cobbalism with zen.

1111
01:02:09,719 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 5: Do you remember The Fountain?

1112
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:12,039
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1113
01:02:12,039 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: I think I like The Found a little more. I

1114
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:14,920
think that's probably better fill.

1115
01:02:14,719 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 5: It's a better film.

1116
01:02:15,519 --> 01:02:16,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's a better film.

1117
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 2: Wasn't so bad.

1118
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: It's like I'm making fun of it, but actually as

1119
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:24,559
a as a you know, artsy kind of concept movie,

1120
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:25,480
it's not so bad.

1121
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 5: Acting's all right, I'll give this movie. Uh three three scalps?

1122
01:02:37,679 --> 01:02:38,199
What do you give it?

1123
01:02:40,079 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1124
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 3: The scalp scene was pretty gross with Digimon, remember.

1125
01:02:45,039 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 1: That the black dude.

1126
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was kind of gross.

1127
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 1: I was like, I prayed to God that I could

1128
01:02:51,559 --> 01:02:55,920
come back. That's the only other guy that mentioned God,

1129
01:02:56,519 --> 01:02:58,320
the only guy that mentions God in the whole movie.

1130
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,239
The second person mentions God. First is a prosstitute that gives.

1131
01:03:01,119 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 5: Him the neck name Pokemon handsuit exactly.

1132
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:05,039
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1133
01:03:05,079 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 11: And then that guy who he prayed to God that

1134
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:11,760
he would go get revenge, Yes, and then he failed

1135
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:15,760
killing failed by evil Michael Madson.

1136
01:03:16,639 --> 01:03:20,119
Speaker 3: The white Man, Black Sorcerer, White Black Sorcerer.

1137
01:03:20,599 --> 01:03:22,159
Speaker 1: There were a few good shots, like, there were a

1138
01:03:22,239 --> 01:03:24,800
few there's some good like cinematography in it. I think

1139
01:03:25,239 --> 01:03:27,480
some of the shots of Michael Madson being creepy were

1140
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:29,679
pretty good. The shot of that guy on the table

1141
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:31,679
and he's acting like a bird or something, and the

1142
01:03:32,199 --> 01:03:34,480
Indian witch is kind of tripping out in her house

1143
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:35,079
a little bit.

1144
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 3: And that pot of of d MT salsa they had

1145
01:03:40,519 --> 01:03:41,320
that was pretty.

1146
01:03:41,079 --> 01:03:42,719
Speaker 1: Wild, wasn't it funny?

1147
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 2: They?

1148
01:03:43,519 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 1: Yeah that, No, that's in the Altered States, dude, Altered States,

1149
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,760
because there's something really funny about that too. Altered States.

1150
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,599
Let's get to that one. That one's hilarious. This movie

1151
01:03:52,679 --> 01:03:55,079
is not so funny. It's kind of more like, I

1152
01:03:55,119 --> 01:03:57,239
don't know, it's it's it's a little bit less hokey

1153
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:00,639
than Altered States, and it presents that psychic world in

1154
01:04:01,199 --> 01:04:03,800
a more honest way, I'd say, in that it shows

1155
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:07,000
the spiritual power dynamic that what it's actually really about

1156
01:04:07,039 --> 01:04:09,360
for most of those people, how it's about power and

1157
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:15,639
spiritual battle and spiritual warfare essentially. But of course it's

1158
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:17,800
it kind of presents the psychedelics as some sort of

1159
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:22,559
a savior, which they're obviously not. I mean, there's nothing

1160
01:04:22,639 --> 01:04:28,960
inherent about going into this hyper sensitive, hyper suggestible state

1161
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:32,960
that's inherently healing, and a lot of it can be

1162
01:04:33,159 --> 01:04:36,480
very very dangerous through So there are any kids out

1163
01:04:36,519 --> 01:04:38,760
there trying to get the Ayahuascas.

1164
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, all right, let's move to Altered States. We

1165
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:45,559
got a super chat from Densi Diaz for twenty dollars.

1166
01:04:45,639 --> 01:04:48,679
He says, is the father personal or is it the

1167
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:53,800
son and the spirit? Personal refers to hypostasis, and so

1168
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:57,360
each of those are hypostasis, so each are personal. They

1169
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all share the quality or characteristic of person who until

1170
01:05:01,119 --> 01:05:07,880
all three are uniquely personal. They're unique hypostaces. So let's

1171
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:11,519
go to altered States. Now, this one is funny, dude,

1172
01:05:11,559 --> 01:05:14,440
This one was cracking me up. It was even dumber

1173
01:05:14,519 --> 01:05:16,519
than I remembered it being from two years ago.

1174
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,199
Speaker 5: I had a friend that used to drink.

1175
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:22,119
Speaker 3: A lot, and he would when we watched this, like

1176
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:24,239
five or six years ago. He said, I hate William

1177
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:28,320
Hurt's face. And I didn't understand that until I watched

1178
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:30,880
it again and I realized that he's got a lot

1179
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:34,000
of face. There's too much face going on with William Hurt.

1180
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 5: There's just too much.

1181
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 2: But he's got right and uh, the.

1182
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:45,719
Speaker 1: Movie starts out with a distorted image of his face.

1183
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 5: And maybe that's why my friend said that.

1184
01:05:48,079 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 1: Let's see starts out first shot William Hurt's gross face

1185
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:57,559
and a weird tank looking like he's in the game BioShock.

1186
01:05:59,000 --> 01:05:59,679
Speaker 5: BioShock.

1187
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:01,679
Speaker 1: He said, the BioShock tank.

1188
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:03,599
Speaker 5: He kind of looks like my dad too.

1189
01:06:03,679 --> 01:06:08,039
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to be anti dad here, but I

1190
01:06:08,079 --> 01:06:12,239
don't know. It's a little weird, a little bit of

1191
01:06:13,599 --> 01:06:14,920
William Hurt face going on.

1192
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 2: Look of that?

1193
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,039
Speaker 1: What do y'all think Jajus revealed has already bloodline?

1194
01:06:19,119 --> 01:06:21,079
Speaker 5: Is that too much face for y'all going on? Or

1195
01:06:21,199 --> 01:06:21,719
what do you think?

1196
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 3: He looks like Dick Cheney now he used to he

1197
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:26,800
used to be a young handsome man. Now he looks

1198
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:32,719
like like Dick Cheney. But anyway, I hurt William Hurt's face.

1199
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:39,920
Somebody's William Hate's face, William Hate. Uh So this is

1200
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,719
a movie about loosely John C.

1201
01:06:43,079 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 5: Lily, Yes, John C.

1202
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:49,239
Speaker 3: Lily, and he is, of course, if you've not listened

1203
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:51,079
to the talks, we're gonna presuppose that you have.

1204
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 5: Go listen to my talks on John C.

1205
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:53,199
Speaker 2: Lily.

1206
01:06:53,599 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 5: We just did one last week.

1207
01:06:56,639 --> 01:07:02,079
Speaker 3: Float tanks, implannable micro chips, dolphin love. We got hoping

1208
01:07:02,119 --> 01:07:06,800
dolphin right here with us, and mind control, and.

1209
01:07:08,559 --> 01:07:10,119
Speaker 5: That's what John C. Lily was about.

1210
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:15,199
Speaker 3: Dissociation, float tanks, all of that mess openly and I

1211
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:20,280
confirmed it with his biography. He talks about it all

1212
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:25,960
in his biography. It's not speculations, it's confirmed now. So

1213
01:07:26,199 --> 01:07:33,679
I'm sure Tristan you heard the famous, momentous, famous Alex

1214
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,119
Jones on Joe Rogan podcasts. I don't know if you

1215
01:07:36,199 --> 01:07:38,400
heard those three yea, remember how.

1216
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:39,039
Speaker 5: Crazy that was?

1217
01:07:39,119 --> 01:07:40,199
Speaker 2: Remember that for sure?

1218
01:07:41,199 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 3: Well, when you go read John C. Lily, I thought,

1219
01:07:45,559 --> 01:07:46,960
I mean, I was like, where do they say this?

1220
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:47,559
Speaker 2: I know John C.

1221
01:07:47,679 --> 01:07:50,679
Speaker 3: Lily talks about some weird stuff in his book Programming

1222
01:07:51,199 --> 01:07:55,039
the Human Biocomputer, but I couldn't. I didn't know that

1223
01:07:55,159 --> 01:07:57,960
He's got entire chapters about talking to the aliens and

1224
01:07:58,000 --> 01:07:58,360
the elves.

1225
01:07:59,119 --> 01:08:01,039
Speaker 1: I like, how was the over of his book looks

1226
01:08:01,079 --> 01:08:03,760
like an L. Rod Hubbard book? Like this is totally

1227
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:05,039
looks like this is diabomic.

1228
01:08:06,199 --> 01:08:08,639
Speaker 5: He looks like a psycho. He looks like psycho.

1229
01:08:09,079 --> 01:08:12,039
Speaker 3: Not he looks like like I said, like he would

1230
01:08:12,039 --> 01:08:14,039
be eating shrimp out of a dumpster.

1231
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 1: He looks children. Do you have any kids?

1232
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:20,319
Speaker 5: I think he does. Yes, his daughter is probably gonna

1233
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:21,479
try to have me killed.

1234
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:23,279
Speaker 1: Now what are they doing?

1235
01:08:23,359 --> 01:08:23,520
Speaker 2: Now?

1236
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:25,560
Speaker 1: What kind of what kind of people did his children

1237
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:26,039
grow to be?

1238
01:08:28,079 --> 01:08:29,680
Speaker 3: I think there's a picture of his daughter in here.

1239
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:34,399
I can't remember but she's half dolphin because he oh

1240
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:40,319
so he created an aerial. Basically, if you've seen that.

1241
01:08:40,399 --> 01:08:44,560
Speaker 1: Movie, yeah, that was a documentary right a little earlier.

1242
01:08:44,359 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 5: That's about John C. Lily and his daughter.

1243
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 3: Got another super chat here before DC Customs, he sends

1244
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:58,119
a lone star Texas himself says, are we are weed

1245
01:08:58,199 --> 01:08:58,880
and alcohol.

1246
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 5: Avoid it entirely from an orthodox perspective. Only on Sundays.

1247
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,399
Speaker 3: The rest of the days, you are required to have

1248
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:13,159
a certain B A C blood alcohol content levels all day.

1249
01:09:13,199 --> 01:09:14,720
You got to have point You got to keep it

1250
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:18,560
at point eight eight symbolic numbers all day long, or

1251
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:22,439
else you're going to hades bro. DC Customs sent ten

1252
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:27,479
bucks and he says, I send this because at Jay said, Grandpappy.

1253
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:30,560
Is that a word you never heard before? It means

1254
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:32,680
your grandfather. That's what I meant by that word, if

1255
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:35,840
you didn't know. Also, Little Aids up there in the

1256
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,399
corner needs to become a recurring character.

1257
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 5: What's the Little Aids?

1258
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:44,279
Speaker 3: Song, grills, music videos, all of it. We need it

1259
01:09:44,399 --> 01:09:47,760
all fleshed it, flesh it out, flesh light it out,

1260
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:52,239
more like it with Tristan up there. The possibilities are numerous.

1261
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:53,359
Speaker 5: Little aids.

1262
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 1: I don't know how to follow that up.

1263
01:09:58,640 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 5: I just start writing some rhymes.

1264
01:10:00,039 --> 01:10:03,560
Speaker 1: Bro, you have to, I can't. I don't want to

1265
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:05,920
drop some of my best I'm not going to give

1266
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:08,479
all you peasants my freestyle. You guys don't get any

1267
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:09,359
little aids today.

1268
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:11,279
Speaker 5: Tristan is gonna have to spit some bars out.

1269
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 1: My bars can't be split right now? All right, I

1270
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:17,560
need we need more super chants. You guys give it.

1271
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:19,520
We get one hundred dollars super chants, A little aids,

1272
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:21,640
my spit some thank you.

1273
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:22,359
Speaker 5: I appreciate that.

1274
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:23,319
Speaker 1: How much?

1275
01:10:23,319 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 2: What are we at now?

1276
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:24,279
Speaker 5: Let's see?

1277
01:10:24,279 --> 01:10:24,560
Speaker 1: We got.

1278
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 2: So sweet?

1279
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:30,640
Speaker 5: Almost up to one hundred. We're getting there.

1280
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 3: But uh so, let's get back to Alter States, because

1281
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:35,039
this is about the fun part.

1282
01:10:35,119 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 1: This stuff is really speaking of aids. This film will

1283
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:37,960
give it to you.

1284
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:42,720
Speaker 3: Yes, William William Hate will give you the aids, give

1285
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:43,560
you the mind aids.

1286
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:46,319
Speaker 1: They didn't discover aids until after this movie came out.

1287
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:49,199
That's I mean, that is kind of kind of interesting.

1288
01:10:49,279 --> 01:10:52,319
Speaker 3: Did you did you notice that there's a similar theme

1289
01:10:52,359 --> 01:10:55,319
between both movies of the Trauma of the death Right.

1290
01:10:55,399 --> 01:10:59,520
So William Hurt discusses when he goes to that party

1291
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:04,119
and he hits on that chick and uh, they're they're

1292
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,520
having there making kuitas together, and.

1293
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:09,600
Speaker 1: He well, how about what he's hitting on her?

1294
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:11,399
Speaker 3: Though, Well, that's what I was gonna say that that

1295
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:14,680
was funny because you know that this damn dude.

1296
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,399
Speaker 5: Look at this, he didn't have no game. You think

1297
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:19,600
that dude had game. William Hurd just busts up and

1298
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:22,159
he's like, who want to sleep with you? Todight, right?

1299
01:11:22,239 --> 01:11:24,319
You think this dude had He's like, I want you

1300
01:11:24,399 --> 01:11:25,079
to come home with me?

1301
01:11:25,319 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 1: Do you think this is like I have a roommate.

1302
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:29,079
He's like, well, we could be on the couch.

1303
01:11:29,399 --> 01:11:29,600
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1304
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:31,800
Speaker 1: She's like, well what if we fall off? And then

1305
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:36,159
it's just and then they're just sweaty quitas on the couch, right.

1306
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:38,520
Speaker 3: And then he freaks out in the middle of the

1307
01:11:39,199 --> 01:11:43,000
stuff and he has a trauma memory of his dad

1308
01:11:43,119 --> 01:11:45,520
dying when he was sixteen, which is which is actually

1309
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:48,399
kind of accurate because do you remember in in the

1310
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,520
that initial sequence, he sees a bunch of religious imagery,

1311
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:56,279
He sees, uh, the lamb of He.

1312
01:11:56,439 --> 01:12:00,399
Speaker 5: Says, I saw Jesus and I feel bad, right, John C.

1313
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:01,479
Lily actually says all that.

1314
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:04,199
Speaker 3: He says that when he was younger, he wanted to

1315
01:12:04,239 --> 01:12:06,640
be a priest. He thought about religion. He wanted to

1316
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:11,359
sacrifice himself for some cause. And as he became older

1317
01:12:11,399 --> 01:12:13,399
and became an atheist, he says, I want to be

1318
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:15,920
a martyr for science.

1319
01:12:16,199 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 5: That's what he says.

1320
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:20,560
Speaker 1: And it's the same story as Mobi. Moby wanted to

1321
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:23,520
be a priest and then he became a musician. But

1322
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:25,560
now he's he's been saved.

1323
01:12:25,319 --> 01:12:27,239
Speaker 3: Because he sacrificed himself for the animals.

1324
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:30,039
Speaker 1: He's a vegan. He has vegan face tattoos and stuff

1325
01:12:30,079 --> 01:12:33,239
that like his animal rights tattooed on his arms. He

1326
01:12:33,319 --> 01:12:39,880
has like like soy prison tattoos all over I swear

1327
01:12:40,039 --> 01:12:42,199
he has a vegan straight edged. He has a vegan

1328
01:12:42,279 --> 01:12:44,720
teardrop like it says VX right next to his eye.

1329
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 5: Huh.

1330
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:50,720
Speaker 3: That means he the only the only thing he's killed

1331
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:53,000
is his own manhood. That's the only thing he could kill.

1332
01:12:58,119 --> 01:12:58,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1333
01:12:59,159 --> 01:13:02,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, So Moby and William hurt in this movie. They

1334
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:05,760
both have a similar background. They both lost their faith

1335
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:07,399
young due.

1336
01:13:07,279 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 3: To well yeah, but so he sees the religious imagery.

1337
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,119
He sees the seven eyes on the Lamb, the Lamb

1338
01:13:16,159 --> 01:13:18,760
slag before the foundation of the world, and that's supposed

1339
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:21,600
to represent him moving away from his Christian imagery.

1340
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 1: And he was all spooked by this stuff, right, but

1341
01:13:24,119 --> 01:13:26,319
it was like a demonic goat lamb right Like, it

1342
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:27,560
was just like very.

1343
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were trying to present it in a scary way,

1344
01:13:30,159 --> 01:13:35,439
right like. And so then he goes to this boomer

1345
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:38,239
party with all the scientists, right, he's at this they're

1346
01:13:38,239 --> 01:13:41,560
playing the doors, right, they're playing that song at singing.

1347
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 5: Actually this is the end.

1348
01:13:46,279 --> 01:13:48,159
Speaker 1: And he was the actor that plays his friend with

1349
01:13:48,239 --> 01:13:49,840
the beard, the Jewish guy.

1350
01:13:50,119 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 3: I was gonna say that guy is funny because he's

1351
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:56,039
the science guy in every seventies movie. He's he plays

1352
01:13:56,079 --> 01:13:59,760
science seventies science man in like five different movies, including

1353
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:06,399
John That's what it is. He's in like space, he's

1354
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:07,880
space science man as well.

1355
01:14:08,279 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely so, he but he's not half.

1356
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 3: As annoying as southern seventies science man. That dude was

1357
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:17,920
getting on my nerves, but he would not.

1358
01:14:18,319 --> 01:14:20,520
Speaker 1: Well, he's like a hard empiricist, right.

1359
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:23,239
Speaker 3: He screams yes, and he screams every.

1360
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:24,319
Speaker 8: This is impossible.

1361
01:14:24,359 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 1: If you come out of there, omov.

1362
01:14:27,159 --> 01:14:28,319
Speaker 8: You come out of there as a monkey.

1363
01:14:29,359 --> 01:14:32,039
Speaker 5: Yeah, but he goes.

1364
01:14:33,359 --> 01:14:37,399
Speaker 3: Uh anyway, So the whole point that what's interesting there

1365
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:41,279
is that there's a connection between the sexuality and the

1366
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,680
and the occult. And he even makes this point, and

1367
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:47,680
she later says that she's like, even everything with you

1368
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:51,239
is this mystical journey of magic and a cult or

1369
01:14:51,319 --> 01:14:51,880
something like that.

1370
01:14:52,199 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 1: It's like you've been making love to you. It's like

1371
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:55,760
a mystical it's just a mystical experience.

1372
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:57,319
Speaker 5: Why can't we just deep?

1373
01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 1: You're too deep for me love?

1374
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:03,640
Speaker 3: And that's because guess who wrote the introduction to this

1375
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:04,359
Do you remember who?

1376
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:05,039
Speaker 1: Did you hear who?

1377
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:10,600
Speaker 5: Old Tim Leary wrote it? And you know who?

1378
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:14,239
Speaker 3: He says the greatest person of the twentieth century is

1379
01:15:14,319 --> 01:15:15,640
next to John cy Lily.

1380
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 5: No Wonder. So it is sex magic, right.

1381
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:22,199
Speaker 3: So going back and watching this, I was like, oh,

1382
01:15:22,279 --> 01:15:25,039
there is this subtle Crowley theme here, No Wonder exactly.

1383
01:15:25,319 --> 01:15:28,560
Speaker 1: And he during the sexual intercourse scene, he's he's dripping

1384
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:32,119
out having ecstatic visions of like satanic loose vary and sacrifices.

1385
01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:35,119
Speaker 3: So he admitted, by the way, and he do you

1386
01:15:35,119 --> 01:15:37,079
remember when he amits her that he's a nut he's like,

1387
01:15:37,319 --> 01:15:40,039
I'm insane. I hope you don't hope you don't mind, right,

1388
01:15:40,119 --> 01:15:42,399
And she's all into it. She's like, oh, but you're smart,

1389
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:43,720
you're insane, and.

1390
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:44,239
Speaker 2: She's just so.

1391
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:49,279
Speaker 1: He's on this journey to to basically intellectualize the spiritual realm, right, Like,

1392
01:15:49,319 --> 01:15:51,119
he wants to figure out, he wants to find the

1393
01:15:51,199 --> 01:15:54,399
god molecule. He wants to find out, he wants to

1394
01:15:54,560 --> 01:16:00,319
measure the spirituality. It's this empirical boomer worldview, comebin with

1395
01:16:01,199 --> 01:16:04,640
the psychedelic boomer worldview, and he ends up becoming the

1396
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:06,000
uber boomer in the end.

1397
01:16:06,119 --> 01:16:09,640
Speaker 3: Yes, he's got that seventies dad game. He's spitting that

1398
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:13,720
seventies dad game to become the seventies uber boomer.

1399
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:14,279
Speaker 2: And he does.

1400
01:16:16,159 --> 01:16:18,399
Speaker 1: And I like the timeline how it just suddenly skips

1401
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:21,479
ahead seven years and everything looks the same. It's still

1402
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:25,000
nineteen eighty. It's like seven years later, we have children,

1403
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:29,079
And there's like five lines of dialogue in between him

1404
01:16:29,159 --> 01:16:30,600
meeting his wife and then.

1405
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:34,600
Speaker 3: Do you remember when he leaned over his dad as

1406
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:36,199
his dad was dying words, do.

1407
01:16:36,159 --> 01:16:41,520
Speaker 1: You remember what his dad said, like it's all terrible, terrible, Yeah.

1408
01:16:41,359 --> 01:16:42,800
Speaker 5: And it was predicting the movie.

1409
01:16:43,319 --> 01:16:48,199
Speaker 1: That was a prediction, that's.

1410
01:16:46,199 --> 01:16:50,279
Speaker 3: Met, that's let's She says, why does everything have to

1411
01:16:50,359 --> 01:16:52,239
be a mystical experience with you? I feel like I'm

1412
01:16:52,279 --> 01:16:53,560
being harpooned by a monk.

1413
01:16:54,319 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 1: What that was a weird dude. The dialogue is so bad,

1414
01:16:58,439 --> 01:16:59,920
so many corny pieces of dialogue.

1415
01:17:00,319 --> 01:17:01,600
Speaker 5: She says, you're a faustus.

1416
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:05,239
Speaker 3: And then they show that girl and they're giving her

1417
01:17:05,239 --> 01:17:07,520
a bunch of doses of d MT. Remember that girl,

1418
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:10,920
that the crazy chick. She's talking about having religious experiences.

1419
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:12,319
Speaker 5: That's all like that.

1420
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:14,239
Speaker 3: This is where we get into the MK ultra part.

1421
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:16,640
Right now we're starting to see all this MK ultra stuff.

1422
01:17:17,039 --> 01:17:20,159
And he's got his little float tank, yes, full of

1423
01:17:20,239 --> 01:17:24,960
jungle juice. He's in their floating in jungle juice. And

1424
01:17:25,079 --> 01:17:27,800
now you can see why he would be dosing dolphins, right,

1425
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:30,359
I mean, because this dude is a quack man.

1426
01:17:30,399 --> 01:17:31,359
Speaker 5: This guy's crazy.

1427
01:17:32,199 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 1: And the move members going back to the DNT girl.

1428
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:36,439
Remember what they asked her what she saw or what

1429
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:39,279
she fell saw Jesus. Yeah, she says, she's like felt

1430
01:17:39,359 --> 01:17:40,680
Jesus or some saw Jesus.

1431
01:17:42,039 --> 01:17:50,119
Speaker 3: Uh if Lily, Oh, I had a dumb joke. So

1432
01:17:50,399 --> 01:17:55,199
if if Lily was dosing dolphins, did seventy Science Man

1433
01:17:56,199 --> 01:17:58,199
with the Jewfefro going dose Jaws?

1434
01:18:00,079 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 1: If he did, nobody would have died in that movie.

1435
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:08,520
Speaker 5: That's what was going Jaws to the wall because he

1436
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:10,960
was he was dosed up.

1437
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:15,720
Speaker 1: That's why seventy Science Man, That's why Jaws five Jaws

1438
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:17,079
Goes Vegan never got made.

1439
01:18:18,199 --> 01:18:21,600
Speaker 3: Oh so once he once Jaws finally has his uh

1440
01:18:22,039 --> 01:18:22,800
one with everything.

1441
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:25,199
Speaker 5: Moment he goes, he.

1442
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:31,039
Speaker 1: He realizes the air of his ways and he realizes

1443
01:18:31,119 --> 01:18:33,560
that we're all just one. I'm not gonna eat fish

1444
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:36,840
anymore or humans. I'm not going to terrorize small towns anymore.

1445
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:38,039
I just want to be one with them.

1446
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:42,159
Speaker 3: Now. The next part, so remember when he goes to Mexico.

1447
01:18:42,359 --> 01:18:43,079
Speaker 2: This is real.

1448
01:18:43,239 --> 01:18:45,079
Speaker 5: This is based on like the Gordon.

1449
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 3: Washston Carlos Stanata going down to Mexico and JP Morgan

1450
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:55,960
the banking bankers is who's uh funded all that? Going

1451
01:18:56,039 --> 01:18:58,760
down to get the shrooms. And he goes down there,

1452
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:01,279
he says to reenact toll tech rituals.

1453
01:19:01,359 --> 01:19:03,079
Speaker 5: Remember this, mm hmm.

1454
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 3: So he goes down there and he gets involved in

1455
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:11,119
this crazy ceremony and I mean Everything in this ceremony

1456
01:19:11,279 --> 01:19:13,199
is demonic.

1457
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:17,039
Speaker 5: Evil, gross nasty. They're all dressed up like zombies.

1458
01:19:17,119 --> 01:19:20,279
Speaker 3: Skulls everywhere, and it's like, you can't figure out that

1459
01:19:20,399 --> 01:19:24,319
this is demonic. He's seeing serpents, he's seeing nuclear explosion.

1460
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 1: To cut his hand and they put his blood in

1461
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:29,800
the thing, and they drink his blood ince in the ceremony,

1462
01:19:30,399 --> 01:19:32,039
and he's seeing there with his wounded hands.

1463
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:35,279
Speaker 3: There's nothing demonic about this, right, It's just this is

1464
01:19:35,359 --> 01:19:37,520
all just you know, you know what I like to.

1465
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 1: They show the fire, the fires underneath the cauldron, and

1466
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:43,000
the the indigenous are burning. I don't know where they

1467
01:19:43,039 --> 01:19:45,840
get a cast iron cauldron in there in their ceremonies.

1468
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:48,640
So they've got this huge cast iron cauldron. And he

1469
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:50,760
just goes up and then scoops it out of this

1470
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:55,640
boiling cauldron and drinks it. It's boiling aauasca. And everyone

1471
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:58,439
just drinks the boiling ayahuasca. I don't know how how

1472
01:19:58,479 --> 01:19:59,119
that's supposed to.

1473
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:02,720
Speaker 5: That's some real salsa right there. That's chips and salsa

1474
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:03,159
for real.

1475
01:20:08,359 --> 01:20:10,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so he sees the sequence that is the

1476
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:14,960
beginning of his like his life's work, right, So he's

1477
01:20:15,159 --> 01:20:18,359
from then on he's sold on the power of the

1478
01:20:19,159 --> 01:20:22,640
anheogens and all this stuff. And that's a little kind

1479
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:24,760
of I mean, it's kind of true. But actually what

1480
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:28,079
the movie doesn't ever touch on is that Lily was

1481
01:20:28,239 --> 01:20:32,600
back in the fifties, forties and fifties, he was doing

1482
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:36,279
all the brain chip stuff. He was implanting all the

1483
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:40,399
micro trip electrodes, and he's he brags about He's like,

1484
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:41,239
I can put.

1485
01:20:41,159 --> 01:20:44,279
Speaker 5: Sho he said, I showed the electrodes on the Huh.

1486
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:46,720
Speaker 1: They show in the film, they show there's electrodes all

1487
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:48,439
over their heads where they're going into the flow tank thing.

1488
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:50,520
Speaker 3: No, but he says, he says back in Night, he says,

1489
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:54,279
in nineteen fifty two, he said I could put electrodes

1490
01:20:54,319 --> 01:20:57,520
in a monkey's brain and have him orgasm me all

1491
01:20:57,600 --> 01:20:58,000
day long.

1492
01:20:59,239 --> 01:21:01,279
Speaker 5: I'm not joking. He literally says that. He says that

1493
01:21:01,399 --> 01:21:03,279
was awesome. He says we could. He says, we can

1494
01:21:03,359 --> 01:21:06,199
make them, the monkeys happy all day.

1495
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 7: Did you hear that, Joe Rogan, you can all be

1496
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:15,800
monkey gods orgasm all with your flesh lights. You can

1497
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:19,439
all if we just go into the imagination. We realize

1498
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:23,199
the imagination is God, and Joe Rogan lives in the

1499
01:21:23,319 --> 01:21:26,760
imagination where we all have the flesh lights of the

1500
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:29,039
gold all around us.

1501
01:21:30,279 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 3: So that right, I mean, he does have the electrodes,

1502
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:35,800
but they don't mention that he was doing all this

1503
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:39,439
top cigarette work to do with signals research and mind control, which,

1504
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:42,600
by the way, I'll tell you my theory on what

1505
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:47,680
all that dolphin stuff was. They weren't dosing dolphins to

1506
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:49,960
try to see if he could talk to dolphins and

1507
01:21:50,159 --> 01:21:55,520
figure out dolphin code. They were studying signals research so

1508
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:58,319
that they could create mind control technology.

1509
01:21:58,399 --> 01:21:59,359
Speaker 5: That's what it was really about.

1510
01:21:59,399 --> 01:22:03,720
Speaker 1: That's why they wanted. They wanted to make synthetic telepathy

1511
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:05,199
using drugs and machines.

1512
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:13,560
Speaker 3: Right, So he sees all this crazy mess. He sees

1513
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:16,680
it's like a giant brain diarrhea trip.

1514
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:17,319
Speaker 5: Is what he sees.

1515
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 3: And I said that because the last time I ate Mexican,

1516
01:22:20,039 --> 01:22:24,159
I got some brain diarrhea. Last time I had chips

1517
01:22:24,199 --> 01:22:27,600
and sauce of D M T cauldron which is brew.

1518
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:30,159
Speaker 5: Let's see what.

1519
01:22:30,239 --> 01:22:30,560
Speaker 1: I'd like that.

1520
01:22:32,159 --> 01:22:33,239
Speaker 5: So that shaman tells him.

1521
01:22:33,279 --> 01:22:36,159
Speaker 8: He says, you will see spark, then you will see

1522
01:22:36,199 --> 01:22:39,640
it crack, then you will see do nothing right, then

1523
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:42,840
you will be reborn. I was like, what that's that's

1524
01:22:43,119 --> 01:22:45,960
you gotta cross the abyss. You gotta destroy your ego,

1525
01:22:46,159 --> 01:22:47,239
gotta be this is the.

1526
01:22:47,239 --> 01:22:51,039
Speaker 1: Shamanic become nothing and constituted as what.

1527
01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:55,359
Speaker 3: Right, it's never any story stuff, right, you gotta you

1528
01:22:55,439 --> 01:23:02,279
gotta become nothing. It's all Luciferian. Uh, let's see they're

1529
01:23:02,279 --> 01:23:04,600
all dressed. Oh remember he saw the mushroom as a

1530
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:05,359
mushroom cloud.

1531
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 1: That was weird.

1532
01:23:07,159 --> 01:23:07,760
Speaker 2: That was later on.

1533
01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:09,239
Speaker 5: That was like his next trip down the road.

1534
01:23:09,279 --> 01:23:11,560
Speaker 3: But anyway, he gets obsessed with this, Like so he's

1535
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:13,600
obsessed with going in the tank and he keeps doing

1536
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:16,720
it and it's ruining everything in his life, his relationships,

1537
01:23:17,359 --> 01:23:20,800
his colleagues, everybody's getting sick of him because he's acting.

1538
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:22,600
Speaker 5: Like a damn loon, like a monkey.

1539
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 1: And this is like, this is like the Western impirsist

1540
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:31,479
replacement for spiritual journeys. Right, somebody like this would become

1541
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:36,039
a monk, right, would have a structure, you know, of

1542
01:23:36,239 --> 01:23:39,159
life that they could seek spirituality, they could seek God.

1543
01:23:39,279 --> 01:23:41,319
But in this way where people have done away with

1544
01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:45,079
God in the West, in this uh, this distorted way

1545
01:23:45,159 --> 01:23:47,199
we go about life. Now, what do they have? What

1546
01:23:47,279 --> 01:23:49,640
do people like this, really have they they go and

1547
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:53,199
fry themselves out and become schitzos, or they just become

1548
01:23:53,319 --> 01:23:55,119
insufferable to everyone around them and depressed.

1549
01:23:55,239 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 3: As he says, I just saw the birth of a man.

1550
01:24:01,079 --> 01:24:05,239
Speaker 5: It's like, what the birth of a mountain. They didn't

1551
01:24:05,239 --> 01:24:06,239
say a birth of a mountain.

1552
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:10,079
Speaker 3: I mean, he's supposed to be a scientist and he

1553
01:24:10,239 --> 01:24:14,479
thinks that everything that he's experiencing in his trips is

1554
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:18,960
a real alternate universe that he believes he can manifest

1555
01:24:19,039 --> 01:24:19,399
into this.

1556
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:22,199
Speaker 5: Universe, and that that's kind of true. He actually kind

1557
01:24:22,239 --> 01:24:24,640
of says that in the book. But I mean, that's

1558
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:25,399
just ludicrous.

1559
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:30,520
Speaker 3: But by the way, modern scientism officionados they all said

1560
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:31,199
the very same thing.

1561
01:24:31,279 --> 01:24:33,159
Speaker 5: They say the multiverse.

1562
01:24:33,239 --> 01:24:36,119
Speaker 3: Oh, we all live in a multiverse where every possibility,

1563
01:24:36,159 --> 01:24:39,560
every potentiality is reality. So that would mean that there

1564
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:41,880
is a universe where God exists. So actually all the

1565
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:43,840
atheists believe in God now, But I mean it's just

1566
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:48,840
total nonsense, total total contradiction. But he actually says this, right,

1567
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:52,800
and that's when the science guy, the Southern seventies science man,

1568
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:55,119
we got we got Jewish science man, and we got

1569
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:58,640
redneck science man. Red next seventy science man and he

1570
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:01,560
has a meltdown, reams all of his lines for like

1571
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:04,039
five minutes straight, and he's like, He's like, and.

1572
01:25:04,159 --> 01:25:07,840
Speaker 5: I'm so tired of your damn cabalistic quantum bullshit. I

1573
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:10,359
can't take now lore this. Get out of that damn

1574
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:12,560
tank and let me do a cat scan on your brain.

1575
01:25:13,119 --> 01:25:15,520
Speaker 3: Screaming for five minutes, I was like, oh my gosh,

1576
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:16,399
this guy's annoying.

1577
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:19,560
Speaker 1: But but then and then it becomes real. Then it

1578
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:23,159
gets really real because William Hurt proves when he X

1579
01:25:23,239 --> 01:25:25,359
raysed his body after he comes out of his super

1580
01:25:25,399 --> 01:25:27,199
trip of the you know, the drug that he brings

1581
01:25:27,279 --> 01:25:30,039
back from the Mexican showmans. He comes back, goes in

1582
01:25:30,119 --> 01:25:33,560
the in the float tank, doses himself and they X

1583
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:38,640
ray him afterwards, and the X rays was the monkey

1584
01:25:39,279 --> 01:25:40,880
he was devolving.

1585
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:46,159
Speaker 3: The evolution is real.

1586
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:48,720
Speaker 1: There's an X ray and you're a gorill.

1587
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 5: Then his cat skin was a monkey.

1588
01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:57,439
Speaker 1: You just got a monkey? This is Is there anything

1589
01:25:57,479 --> 01:26:00,479
abnormal about this? And guy's like, that's so that's the.

1590
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:03,199
Speaker 3: Stupid, Like this movie is leading you down this journey

1591
01:26:03,279 --> 01:26:07,600
of you're actually into this. You know, it's sensible up

1592
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:10,880
until that point, and then it just becomes totally retarded,

1593
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:13,720
like a geico ad where he jumps out of the

1594
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:16,279
tank as an ape as a caveman.

1595
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:19,760
Speaker 1: What yeah, because he's.

1596
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:25,399
Speaker 3: Running became a proto human being beaten things with with

1597
01:26:26,319 --> 01:26:29,560
bones and ship and it's like, what from an acid trip.

1598
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:32,920
You can't actually turn into the thing that you're having

1599
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:34,279
an acid trip about.

1600
01:26:34,359 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 1: Bro, Sorry, No, he did because he was so it

1601
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:40,319
was the most powerful as he tapped so deep into

1602
01:26:40,359 --> 01:26:45,840
it because of the tank tank plus the ayahuasca drops,

1603
01:26:46,319 --> 01:26:50,079
and that made he was the most powerful manifestor. But look,

1604
01:26:50,159 --> 01:26:51,800
I mean this this actually this goes back to like

1605
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:52,920
the whole ritual magic.

1606
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:56,119
Speaker 3: He manifested reality because he was the magis.

1607
01:26:56,880 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he becomes this powerful magician's able to control reality

1608
01:27:00,279 --> 01:27:02,720
and people around him, which by controlling reality they mean

1609
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:06,039
controlling people's perception of the world around them. That's what

1610
01:27:06,119 --> 01:27:08,760
these people are, these magic magicians. They don't mean their acts.

1611
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:11,880
They don't they're not going to actually create a new universe.

1612
01:27:12,239 --> 01:27:14,960
They believe that they're controlling people's perception of the universe,

1613
01:27:15,039 --> 01:27:17,680
which then makes the universe right. So they have this

1614
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:21,399
distorted kind of this gnostic view of your mind is God,

1615
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:24,279
and if we can just control everyone's mind and then

1616
01:27:24,359 --> 01:27:26,960
we can become like the over God or something like that.

1617
01:27:27,079 --> 01:27:31,039
Really stupid and the John C. Lilly character. Instead of

1618
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:34,680
becoming this powerful magician like Croley, he becomes this basically

1619
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:39,319
mad man consumed by the super etheric power of evolution

1620
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:41,840
that he's harnessed, and he doesn't know which way an

1621
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:44,600
evolution he's going to go, and it's very uh.

1622
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:48,800
Speaker 3: He regressed into his monkey nuts and went back, he said.

1623
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:52,680
He says, I have stored within me millennia of the

1624
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:56,159
monkey nuts of my ancestors, and I regressed into those

1625
01:27:56,319 --> 01:28:00,640
memories in my testes and brings them back. He retrieves

1626
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:04,560
those regressive memories and he becomes his apes self, and

1627
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:06,039
then he runs off to the zoo.

1628
01:28:06,279 --> 01:28:06,479
Speaker 2: Wow.

1629
01:28:08,399 --> 01:28:10,640
Speaker 3: No, animals don't run to the zoo. They run away

1630
01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:12,720
from the zoo. I don't understand that. And then he

1631
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:15,359
threw a rock at a sheep. You ever seen a

1632
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:17,560
sheep at a zoo? I've never seen sheep at the zoo.

1633
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:19,960
Speaker 1: There was like a two thousand sheep in that zoo.

1634
01:28:21,399 --> 01:28:26,319
Everywhere They looked like goats too, Like what kind of

1635
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:27,239
weird looking.

1636
01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:30,840
Speaker 3: S verage on that thing and he's got to smear

1637
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:31,479
it all over his face.

1638
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 5: He's being sage eat.

1639
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:38,159
Speaker 1: Them, so he eats the block of the sheep. It

1640
01:28:38,279 --> 01:28:40,359
was so bad. Oh, well, what about when he comes

1641
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:43,920
He goes in the tank and he says he's dictating

1642
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:45,640
all this right, he's tripping out, he's tripping so hard.

1643
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:48,199
But at the same time he's describing it and he's saying,

1644
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:52,920
I'm a proto human. There's this this quadruped monkey and

1645
01:28:53,159 --> 01:28:55,439
it just jumped out of a tree. Oh, it's magnificent.

1646
01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:58,319
It's eating a small sheep now, so he's seeing, like

1647
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:00,760
what's gonna happen in the future with him? And then

1648
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:02,319
he comes out of the tank and he's got blood

1649
01:29:02,319 --> 01:29:04,760
all over his mouth and it's like this, you know, scientist.

1650
01:29:05,279 --> 01:29:06,840
Speaker 3: I was wondering that why is he bleeding when he

1651
01:29:07,079 --> 01:29:07,560
comes out of there?

1652
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:10,159
Speaker 1: It's supposed to be it's like the the realities bleeding.

1653
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:15,079
It was so powerfully beat out of a janitor. Yeah,

1654
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:16,359
I thought he killed him.

1655
01:29:16,399 --> 01:29:18,239
Speaker 5: I was like, why is this guy killed the cop?

1656
01:29:18,319 --> 01:29:21,359
Speaker 3: And then the night the night cop rent the cop

1657
01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:23,159
and then he beat the crap out of a janitor.

1658
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:26,079
Speaker 1: But it was okay. It was all good, it doesn't matter.

1659
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:32,560
Speaker 3: But remember too, Uh, why is ancient primal? Why is

1660
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:33,600
that more spiritual?

1661
01:29:34,199 --> 01:29:34,319
Speaker 2: Right?

1662
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:36,239
Speaker 5: There's always this assumption that.

1663
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:42,640
Speaker 3: Tribes rolling around, you know, in feces and wearing a

1664
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:44,399
loin cloth, that's more spiritual?

1665
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:47,640
Speaker 5: Really why? Yeah, it's not.

1666
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:54,199
Speaker 1: People don't have ancient they can't. They can't interpret history

1667
01:29:54,359 --> 01:29:57,079
without the fall, right, and so then they they have

1668
01:29:57,239 --> 01:30:01,319
this maybe deep down there yearning for or the state

1669
01:30:01,399 --> 01:30:02,039
before the fall.

1670
01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:06,439
Speaker 3: Did you notice too, nobody ever regresses to something stupid

1671
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:08,920
or shitty, Like they don't ever regress to being a bee.

1672
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:14,640
They don't regress to being an std or little aids

1673
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:17,680
or a dust might or you know, it's always oh,

1674
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:21,119
it's a monkey. But he didn't regress back any further

1675
01:30:21,359 --> 01:30:24,279
than that. I mean, why is he regressing to hi much?

1676
01:30:24,359 --> 01:30:25,640
Speaker 5: Well, it's because it's he did.

1677
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:29,319
Speaker 1: Remember In the end, he regresses to like the cosmic

1678
01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:29,960
pond skun.

1679
01:30:30,039 --> 01:30:33,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, he becomes like proto the protozoa or whatever, the

1680
01:30:34,399 --> 01:30:37,239
first primordial thought something. Yeah, that's what he calls it,

1681
01:30:37,319 --> 01:30:42,039
the first I became the first thought. The more like

1682
01:30:42,079 --> 01:30:48,399
it the first thought. Uh, let's see, he's he becomes

1683
01:30:48,439 --> 01:30:52,319
star child, he gets reborn Remember that he becomes like

1684
01:30:52,399 --> 01:30:54,640
his light being and she has to reach into the

1685
01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:56,239
trip and pull him out.

1686
01:30:56,319 --> 01:30:59,199
Speaker 1: Remember that at this point you're you're so done with

1687
01:30:59,279 --> 01:31:02,079
this movie and get through it becomes.

1688
01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:02,520
Speaker 5: Two thousand and one.

1689
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:05,439
Speaker 3: It's like it becomes Kubert level, and you can tell

1690
01:31:05,479 --> 01:31:07,880
they were trying to go for Kubert level stuff.

1691
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:09,279
Speaker 1: Just like, let's just do two thousand and one.

1692
01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:13,560
Speaker 3: You know, space jizz on the screen, literally, that's what

1693
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:15,560
it's like. Space jizz everywhere on the screens.

1694
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:15,920
Speaker 5: Gross.

1695
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:20,600
Speaker 3: And William Hurt comes back and he touches his wife

1696
01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:25,239
and she becomes lava. I don't know she she screams

1697
01:31:25,279 --> 01:31:28,920
as lava. And then he beats the wall a few times,

1698
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:32,079
but he beats it enough that he beats enough that

1699
01:31:32,199 --> 01:31:34,359
he gets back to normal and loves said. You remember,

1700
01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:36,199
do you remember his great last line? He has a

1701
01:31:36,199 --> 01:31:39,159
great last line. He says, I saw the truth that

1702
01:31:39,279 --> 01:31:40,199
there is no truth.

1703
01:31:41,119 --> 01:31:43,319
Speaker 1: Yes, that's the end of the movie. I saw the

1704
01:31:43,399 --> 01:31:46,720
truth that there is no truth. But it's okay because

1705
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:47,560
we love each other.

1706
01:31:48,079 --> 01:31:50,520
Speaker 3: So then if there's no truth, then you don't love

1707
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:50,840
each other.

1708
01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:51,199
Speaker 5: Dummy.

1709
01:31:53,119 --> 01:31:56,680
Speaker 3: Somebody's hey, don't don't come William Hurt.

1710
01:31:57,439 --> 01:31:58,000
Speaker 1: It's no truth.

1711
01:31:58,119 --> 01:32:00,000
Speaker 5: But that's the kind of crap that you would get

1712
01:32:00,119 --> 01:32:00,880
in Lily's book.

1713
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:04,680
Speaker 12: He says like this is the stupidest mood of ever,

1714
01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:06,800
sing that this is so bad and it's so like

1715
01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:10,680
I said, it's the this, this is the Boomer generation incarnate, right,

1716
01:32:11,119 --> 01:32:13,560
the scientism, just.

1717
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:21,199
Speaker 13: Obsessive relativism scientists, and then and then ending up just okay,

1718
01:32:21,239 --> 01:32:23,840
we'll just idolize fake relationships with each other.

1719
01:32:24,039 --> 01:32:26,000
Speaker 1: Screw it, let's just worship each other.

1720
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:29,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, hence Boomer divorce.

1721
01:32:29,399 --> 01:32:31,960
Speaker 3: Right, I mean, you know, after he says that they're

1722
01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:33,960
about to get a divorce, there is.

1723
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:36,279
Speaker 1: No truth, but then they're naked and she's like, oh,

1724
01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:38,680
they're hugging, and they're suddenly naked and hugging.

1725
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:43,600
Speaker 3: He's about to move down to Florida set up his uh,

1726
01:32:44,199 --> 01:32:45,840
his dolphin prostitution ring.

1727
01:32:46,039 --> 01:32:50,520
Speaker 1: Like she's gonna become a massage therapist, reiking master.

1728
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:54,399
Speaker 3: While he's down there messing with humb and dolphin.

1729
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:57,319
Speaker 1: Right, right, he's gonna be he's gonna be putting his

1730
01:32:57,439 --> 01:33:01,039
dinghi in a dolphin's blowhole. She's in and she's gonna

1731
01:33:01,079 --> 01:33:03,439
have to she'll have to give it therapy afterwards. She'll

1732
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:04,199
have to do raiki on.

1733
01:33:04,199 --> 01:33:08,840
Speaker 5: The dolphin, Dolphin Reiki masters, that's all.

1734
01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:10,520
Speaker 2: So what is this movie? Like?

1735
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:12,880
Speaker 3: This movie is like if you've ever wanted to have

1736
01:33:13,039 --> 01:33:16,079
a bad acid trip with a Boomer, That's what this movie.

1737
01:33:16,079 --> 01:33:18,560
Because half of this movie is his acid trips and

1738
01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:20,119
the other half of his movie is just kind of

1739
01:33:20,159 --> 01:33:24,399
sitting around with Boomer seventy scientists shooting the shit.

1740
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:25,640
Speaker 5: That's what this movie is.

1741
01:33:26,239 --> 01:33:28,800
Speaker 1: This movie is so bad that it made the Renegade one.

1742
01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:31,439
It's like, it's like, oh, it's kind of relieving the

1743
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:33,439
Renegade movie. It's like, as far as it.

1744
01:33:33,520 --> 01:33:35,199
Speaker 3: Was so bad, it was entertaining because I knew we

1745
01:33:35,239 --> 01:33:35,640
were gonna have.

1746
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:36,079
Speaker 5: Fun with it.

1747
01:33:36,279 --> 01:33:39,840
Speaker 1: But dude, there's so many bad lines. I should have

1748
01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:42,800
to taken notes, but there's so many. We're just Jess

1749
01:33:42,840 --> 01:33:44,319
gonna were just laughing the whole time.

1750
01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:47,520
Speaker 3: How many Geico Cavemen do you give this movie?

1751
01:33:49,039 --> 01:33:52,560
Speaker 1: I give this movie out of how many out of

1752
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:57,319
out of all? Right, out of fourteen billion Geico Caveman,

1753
01:33:57,359 --> 01:34:00,439
because Happy Birthday, Universe, the age of the U Universe

1754
01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:03,680
fourteen billion years exactly was born today, I give it

1755
01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:06,520
three billion Geico Caveman.

1756
01:34:06,279 --> 01:34:10,880
Speaker 3: Seventeen seventy six billion years ago. Okay, yeah, I'll give

1757
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:17,279
it three and a half. And William hurt my feelings

1758
01:34:17,359 --> 01:34:17,960
with this movie.

1759
01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:21,279
Speaker 1: I want, I want to look up some quotes from

1760
01:34:21,319 --> 01:34:23,239
this movie because there's so many great you do that

1761
01:34:23,399 --> 01:34:23,600
want to.

1762
01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:24,319
Speaker 5: Read the super chest.

1763
01:34:24,399 --> 01:34:29,159
Speaker 3: DC custom says, big dreams all start small little aids.

1764
01:34:29,279 --> 01:34:34,039
Needs to get him some tinfoil, wrap them teeth, get

1765
01:34:34,079 --> 01:34:37,000
a hoodie. Of course, Kristin always wears a hood That's

1766
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:40,039
like the only thing. Tristan has two garments. He wears

1767
01:34:40,079 --> 01:34:42,760
a hoodie and he wears a tank top. That's the

1768
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:45,319
only two thing in his closet. Dude, you open up

1769
01:34:45,319 --> 01:34:47,800
that closet that's made out of mud, like the whole house.

1770
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:50,800
Speaker 2: Like, dude, It's.

1771
01:34:52,399 --> 01:34:54,640
Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of racial undertones that I'm really

1772
01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:58,439
not appreciating. I mean, I've just because I'm South American,

1773
01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:01,159
I'm the ethnic You got to you gotta you gotta

1774
01:35:01,199 --> 01:35:02,920
tell me I gotta wear hoodies. Now, I guess I

1775
01:35:03,039 --> 01:35:03,760
I'm allow to wear.

1776
01:35:04,359 --> 01:35:07,520
Speaker 3: That's all that's in your right when you got married.

1777
01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:09,520
When you got married, you had a tuxedo that was

1778
01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:14,159
a tank top, hoodie. It was the hood that was

1779
01:35:14,199 --> 01:35:14,880
what you got married.

1780
01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:18,560
Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned that's all that in my closet. What's

1781
01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:20,680
wrong with being in the closet? I mean that's something

1782
01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:24,520
you know a little bit about, right, I mean this

1783
01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:27,800
is it's been a really nice fot. You watched two movies, right, Jay,

1784
01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:30,319
These are two movies that Jay could really relate to. Right,

1785
01:35:30,399 --> 01:35:32,880
So I'm gonna have to come Renegade movie. He could

1786
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:36,520
really relate to Renegade because Jay's killed many hookers, and

1787
01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:40,079
he could also he could really relate to tow Altered

1788
01:35:40,199 --> 01:35:43,720
States because he's also, uh, he's also been in a

1789
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:46,920
lot of closed room environments with monkeys and it had

1790
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:48,199
questionable things happens.

1791
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:53,000
Speaker 3: Well, at least in my clause that we got more

1792
01:35:53,039 --> 01:35:56,239
than two garments. And by the way, Tristan when he's

1793
01:35:56,279 --> 01:35:58,279
doing his streams, that's the only garment he's got on.

1794
01:35:58,399 --> 01:35:59,800
There's nothing from the bottom down.

1795
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:04,399
Speaker 5: Is empty nothing. But you just got that hoodie. That's

1796
01:36:04,399 --> 01:36:05,760
the only thing he wears around.

1797
01:36:06,159 --> 01:36:09,600
Speaker 3: Actually, the natives, actually the natives who all wear loin

1798
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:12,319
cloths around him in that in the indigenous region, they're

1799
01:36:12,319 --> 01:36:12,920
tired of trusting.

1800
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:13,479
Speaker 5: They're like, man, that.

1801
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:16,760
Speaker 3: Dude, that white dude over there, he is weird man.

1802
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:19,199
We need him to put some whitey tidies on or

1803
01:36:19,239 --> 01:36:20,479
something because he's more native.

1804
01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:23,800
Speaker 1: They want me to blow blow the tobacco smoke on them.

1805
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:28,680
In the reiki ceremonies with William Hurt's wife doing doing

1806
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:30,479
reiki therapy, well you have to.

1807
01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:32,319
Speaker 3: Get down off of your roof from spying on the

1808
01:36:32,359 --> 01:36:33,680
boomers in the sex tenths.

1809
01:36:34,399 --> 01:36:37,119
Speaker 1: Oh my, I'm in the Boomer sex.

1810
01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:39,159
Speaker 2: Deep.

1811
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:42,800
Speaker 5: That's what you get live streamed on that channel he

1812
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:44,720
was talking about earlier. Is that gross stuff?

1813
01:36:45,399 --> 01:36:47,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my other channels called boomer fluids.

1814
01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:52,479
Speaker 3: That was the end of this movie with the visions

1815
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:56,920
that that William Hurt was seeing was boomer fluids. The

1816
01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:59,960
whole thing, the whole universe in his mind is created

1817
01:37:00,199 --> 01:37:03,039
by the Big Boomer Bang. Literally it was the big

1818
01:37:03,079 --> 01:37:05,319
boomer bang in his mind that created the universe.

1819
01:37:05,479 --> 01:37:07,520
Speaker 5: If you notice that, did you see he.

1820
01:37:08,079 --> 01:37:10,159
Speaker 1: Was so enlightened that he recreated the big big The

1821
01:37:10,159 --> 01:37:12,399
whole thing is so stupid, but it really it does

1822
01:37:12,479 --> 01:37:15,520
show kind of that that preless that, you know, Yeah,

1823
01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:20,039
the total psychotic you know, I am everything and everything

1824
01:37:20,159 --> 01:37:23,159
is me, and look I know everything and I and

1825
01:37:23,279 --> 01:37:25,680
what you know and everything they think they know these people.

1826
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:28,000
It's just what they've already been told by the culture

1827
01:37:28,079 --> 01:37:30,760
that they're in, right by what what what's his face?

1828
01:37:31,239 --> 01:37:33,560
Leary would call the set. In the setting, it's like

1829
01:37:33,640 --> 01:37:36,399
he just confirms all his own biases. Oh look there's monkeys.

1830
01:37:36,479 --> 01:37:40,119
We was monkeys. It's evolution. Oh look there's the primordial soup,

1831
01:37:40,159 --> 01:37:42,520
and I'm gonna become it. You know, it's it's it's

1832
01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:45,199
just it's all a confirmation biased psychosis.

1833
01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:50,960
Speaker 3: Primordial suit was uh was taco suit?

1834
01:37:52,279 --> 01:37:54,840
Speaker 1: Somebody? Tristan lives in a mud igloo with a mud

1835
01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:56,880
closet filled with hoodies and tank tops.

1836
01:37:57,560 --> 01:38:01,119
Speaker 5: That was my joke. Did we talking about Listen what

1837
01:38:01,239 --> 01:38:01,560
I say?

1838
01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:03,560
Speaker 3: I said, you built your house you were bragging about

1839
01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:05,560
it's all made out of mud that y'all stacked up.

1840
01:38:08,159 --> 01:38:09,800
Speaker 5: And there's nothing but two garments in there.

1841
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:13,479
Speaker 1: When you see it written nowt it's it's even funnier.

1842
01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:20,359
Speaker 5: Where we just we can have a show where we

1843
01:38:20,479 --> 01:38:22,479
just bust on each other. Dude, we can just roast.

1844
01:38:23,399 --> 01:38:24,159
Speaker 2: We have to put that on.

1845
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:29,479
Speaker 1: It's just for the Chatterbach fans only only fans. You

1846
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:32,039
just say these things. You don't realize what you're saying

1847
01:38:32,119 --> 01:38:32,800
when you say.

1848
01:38:32,680 --> 01:38:38,800
Speaker 3: The can you tell I've been listening to THEO Von.

1849
01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:40,880
I started doing these stall stories.

1850
01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:41,720
Speaker 2: Man.

1851
01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:43,680
Speaker 3: One time we had a dude that was a damn

1852
01:38:44,319 --> 01:38:45,600
call it name a Tristan.

1853
01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:46,560
Speaker 5: There was a dude.

1854
01:38:48,039 --> 01:38:51,560
Speaker 1: He was slick man, that man. It was just full

1855
01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:52,199
of tank top.

1856
01:38:52,319 --> 01:38:54,520
Speaker 3: He was beautiful, but it was weird, living in a

1857
01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:56,560
damn mud igloo down the.

1858
01:38:56,600 --> 01:38:59,000
Speaker 1: Road, right and we was real man, but he was

1859
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a weird little dude too.

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Speaker 5: He liking boomer women.

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Speaker 3: Man, he run out there to the tents at night

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and start looking started lusting after nim boomer women. Right,

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gang gang.

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Speaker 5: Y'all like my theo Von and personally.

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Speaker 3: All right, uh, let's see, I think we had another

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super chat.

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Speaker 5: See ro says for five bucks.

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Speaker 3: Have you either either of you watched Oh thank you

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the British show Utopia. Yes, Tristan and I have for

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months and months been talking about doing Utopia.

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Speaker 5: I gotta I gotta finish it, dude.

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Speaker 1: That show is so deep that it's like if you

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if you just do an analysis on that show, you'll

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get kicked off at YouTube because there's so much in it.

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I feel like it's I feel like there's too much

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in that.

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Speaker 3: He says, my name is Tom Green. Okay, okay, dude,

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but thank you for that. Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna

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do Utopia. I'm about I keep rewatching it. So I've

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watched it twice up through season one, so like almost

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to the end of season one twice, and I do

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have notes.

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Speaker 1: So you haven't seen the first episode of season two though,

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because it's a good really like season two episode one,

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it's a good one.

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Speaker 5: Awesome. We're gonna get on that next. DC Customs says,

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for five dollars, can you review Pie? Yeah, I guess

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I should.

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Speaker 3: That's I mean, if we finally got to Holy Mountain,

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then we gotta finally get to Pie. Because you know,

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esoteric movies one of those Darren Aronofsky's.

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Speaker 1: Aeronofsky. It's like he just wants to turn you schizophrenic

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with a film. That's his goal every film. I want

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to make you a schizophrenic at the end of it.

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Speaker 5: That's true.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Black Swan, that one was another discussion.

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Speaker 5: That one was wild too, because that was about the

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split in her psyche. Remember, the whole thing was, uh.

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Speaker 3: Mila Kunas was a lesbian in her head. She had

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a lesbian infesting her head.

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Speaker 1: Remember that that movie was crazy, That was wild Man.

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Speaker 3: Howard Theovann said, man, I was watching that damn black

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Swan and old Natalie Portman had had a lesbian in

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her head. She had that bitch had a lesbian stuck

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up in her head.

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Speaker 1: Had doctors tell me one time that I had a

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bunch of lesbians up in my head.

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Speaker 5: I had the heart of a lesbian.

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Speaker 3: But it's one of the few funny comedians now right, yeah,

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Sam Hill, funny Sam Hi.

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Speaker 5: Who's at the top of the totem pole.

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 1: There's this other guy that's got a YouTube channel, now,

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Ryan Long. He has some funny videos right now, Ryan Long.

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Check yeah, right Long, check out his channel. He's a

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few funny ones. His edits the short adds. But Theo's

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got this way like he could just talk for ten

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minutes and say nothing.

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Speaker 2: To be crazy.

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Speaker 5: Stories are awesome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Theo's great storytelling.

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Speaker 5: Uh oh wait, we'll get another Sipper chair.

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Speaker 1: THEO would be funny. Even if he cut his mullet,

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he'd be funny too. It's like the kind of guy.

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It's not just the just the look. No, we don't

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have another shave his head to be hilarious, but he's

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got to keep.

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Speaker 5: The mulling, all right, y'all.

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Speaker 3: Tristan's channel is linked if you if you feel dirty

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and you want to go see all that nasty so

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it comes into his channel is linked, not his YouTube channel,

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his other hidden channel that he doesn't know about. That

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one's linked if you want to go watch all that

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nasty stuff. But thank y'all, anything you want to leave

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us with Tristan, No.

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Speaker 2: Man, it was a good stream.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, we had to I know watching that that the

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first movie we talked about might have been kind of

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hard bringing up the memories of like, yeah, I mean

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it was about killing hookers, right, so I mean there

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might be it might have brought up brought off some

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weird memories for you or whatever.

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Speaker 3: So below the dude he's going, but yeah, no it

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it was fun.

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Speaker 1: Man. Well, I don't know what we'll do next. Maybe

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we do the we should do you tell you next?

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Speaker 5: Always been saying do you utopia?

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Speaker 1: Toby is crazy. I have to watch it. Do that next?

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Speaker 5: Uh, and I'll get back on it. Finished season one

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all right, man.

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Speaker 1: The music they did a good job on the soundtrack

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at Utopia.

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Speaker 3: Cool dude, it was the little aide wrap on that

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little age. We'll let you do your little You could

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do some freestyle, right, You can't.

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Speaker 1: Just call me up the freesid. You gotta do your

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you gotta do your verse, spit your bars, battle rap,

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we should do that.

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Speaker 3: We'll do a battle wrap cut down. We'll do a

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wrap battle roasted cutdown thing next time.

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Speaker 5: How's that?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm serious. Let's do that'd be funny like that.

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Do it all right, dude, everybody Tristan uh and thank

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you for the super chats, and everybody have a good night.