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<v Speaker 1>going to want to hear this presentation. Oliver. Welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to the Morning Show. It's always a pleasure talking with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you for a fantastic introduction. It's great to

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<v Speaker 2>be back.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, I appreciate this subject matter, what's happening

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<v Speaker 1>in Europe and what am I to portend to the

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<v Speaker 1>United States subheading While authoritarian to authoritarianism has been on

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<v Speaker 1>the rise among the political class, A populist reaction is

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<v Speaker 1>taking place. In response, I mean, I guess I should

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<v Speaker 1>start up by saying, Oliver, what did they our political

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<v Speaker 1>elites expect when they opened the borders in the European Union?

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<v Speaker 1>And then we felt the same thing mostly under the

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<v Speaker 1>Biden administration open the borders, you had this unchecked, amazing

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<v Speaker 1>inflow of immigrants with no connection to your political culture,

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<v Speaker 1>no collection, no collection to your culture. Generally speaking, things

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<v Speaker 1>got pretty bad and people started looking around in Italy,

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<v Speaker 1>in France and the UK and Germany like, wait a second,

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<v Speaker 1>what what happened to our country? We're not the same

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<v Speaker 1>country we used to be. Our culture has been completely eroded,

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<v Speaker 1>Our cities are overrun, the criminal element in the criminal

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of crime has gone through the roof. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>there's going to be a populis revolt to that. Isn't

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<v Speaker 1>that just sort of a natural reaction? Oliver, Well, what you.

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<v Speaker 3>Couldn't see when you said what exactly did they expect?

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<v Speaker 2>Was me grinning from here to way, because.

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<v Speaker 3>That is the best possible question you could ask, And

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<v Speaker 3>I wish I had an answer for you. What did

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<v Speaker 3>they expect exactly when you force upon people who in

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<v Speaker 3>countries across Europe and probably in the United States as well,

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<v Speaker 3>who are voted against mass migration again and again and again,

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<v Speaker 3>election after election for decades, and no matter actually the

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<v Speaker 3>result of the election, you always get the same thing,

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<v Speaker 3>which is more and more open borders. So what we

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<v Speaker 3>have so called is this populous uprising, which is of

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<v Speaker 3>course an entirely natural counter reaction to elite overreach because

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<v Speaker 3>they decided they could do whatever it is they wanted,

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<v Speaker 3>no matter how the people advised them, in the endless

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<v Speaker 3>elections that we have in these wonderful democracies, which are

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<v Speaker 3>democracies that hurt and they're in trouble, because if you

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<v Speaker 3>have a situation where people vote again and again to

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<v Speaker 3>stop something and it doesn't happen, then well is that

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<v Speaker 3>a democracy.

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<v Speaker 2>Worth the name.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's good and it's healthy, and it's a natural

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<v Speaker 3>reaction that we have these, as I say, so called

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<v Speaker 3>populous reactions in Europe and in the United States, and

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<v Speaker 3>I certainly think that President Trump is a part of that.

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<v Speaker 3>In terms of encouraging your fine listeners to tune into

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<v Speaker 3>this empower you seminar to item is going to be

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<v Speaker 3>a short talk followed by questions, and I'm really looking

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<v Speaker 3>forward to those questions.

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<v Speaker 2>That's obviously always the best part. But the thing that

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to have to tune into here is why

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<v Speaker 3>Populism is a bad word and one that we shouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>use on the right.

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<v Speaker 1>Fair enough, and I'm sure you'll provide a wonderful explanation

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<v Speaker 1>of it, and maybe an alternative term to use when

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<v Speaker 1>we're referring to what is this, Wait a second, what

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<v Speaker 1>about us mentality? Our government has seemed to just turned

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<v Speaker 1>its back on its own people, And yeah, you can,

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<v Speaker 1>I think clearly connect the dots to this concept of

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<v Speaker 1>this globalist, one world government. They view independent countries as bad.

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<v Speaker 1>They want one size fits all, They want to control

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<v Speaker 1>us all. And it seems to me that this importation

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<v Speaker 1>They don't care about the borders of Germany or the

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<v Speaker 1>So if they were eradicated, they don't care as long

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<v Speaker 1>as they have a place to eat in someone feeding them.

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose whatever you got by way of government is

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, a real cynic might argue, there's an element of

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<v Speaker 3>situation for civil uprising, for unrest, for civil war, even

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<v Speaker 3>which are all horrible words and not things we'd like

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<v Speaker 3>to think about. Because you have two groups that are

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<v Speaker 3>a peaceful country, from the position of an authoritarian, it's

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<v Speaker 3>far better to have a country with a great many

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<v Speaker 3>are too busy bickering amongst themselves. You can then divide

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<v Speaker 3>and rule. And when I look at the very diverse

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<v Speaker 3>way in which our countries are being changed, as I say,

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<v Speaker 3>a real cynic might argue that this produces a situation

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<v Speaker 3>in the for instance, European states, which where elite control

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<v Speaker 3>is rendered much easier.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yes, I can certainly draw, draw the dots or

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<v Speaker 1>connect the dots again her on that. Now, the other

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<v Speaker 1>component of this is, and you know, we face this

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<v Speaker 1>struggle here in the United States, where I think, culturally speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>we prided ourselves, you know, on this melting pod concept.

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<v Speaker 1>We had Irish, we had English, we had Germans, we

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<v Speaker 1>had Hispanics, we have all these different subgroups of cultures.

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<v Speaker 1>But coming here with the freedom and ability and liberty

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<v Speaker 1>to do as they choose, work under this umbrella of

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<v Speaker 1>freedom without too much government control over their lives. It

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<v Speaker 1>was really a motivation to draw people and that all

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<v Speaker 1>worked for us, except in modern times with social media.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is the point I'm gonna ltimately get to

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<v Speaker 1>that division can be created and you start putting in

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<v Speaker 1>divisive elements. It starts breaking these otherwise cohesive under the

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<v Speaker 1>banner of freedom, people who could peacefully live together. And

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<v Speaker 1>you start saying, no, you're in Asian America, No you're

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<v Speaker 1>in Irish America. No you're an African American, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you drive a wedge between otherwise peaceful groups. That's how

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<v Speaker 1>you get this division that we're talking about, and even

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<v Speaker 1>under a banner of freedom, it ends up collapsing on itself.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I think there are two distinct elements here, because,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, in the past, the United States has had

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<v Speaker 3>these actually quite considerable waves of migration. Historically going back

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<v Speaker 3>the past two hundred and fifty years, first British migranges predominantly,

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<v Speaker 3>even now, the English settlers are the largest legacy.

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<v Speaker 2>White group, followed very closely by the Germans.

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<v Speaker 3>But you have the Germans, and you had the Italians,

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<v Speaker 3>and you had the Norwegians and the Swedish who settled.

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<v Speaker 2>In the north of the United States of America.

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<v Speaker 3>But always after these arrivals, it seems there's an automatic response,

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<v Speaker 3>a self healing instinct in the United States that when

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<v Speaker 3>you have a sudden large arrival, you manage that then

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<v Speaker 3>by actually having a period where the borders are closed

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<v Speaker 3>and that group, which is not constantly being reinforced with

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<v Speaker 3>new migrants arriving from abroad, is forced to to integrate

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<v Speaker 3>and actually has to become parts of the American dream.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's worked very well in the past.

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<v Speaker 3>And the problem that we have now, as you absolutely

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<v Speaker 3>rightly identify, with the emergency social media, which is great

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<v Speaker 3>in so many ways and is a fantastic tool for

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<v Speaker 3>fighting back against globalization, against a league capture, because it

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<v Speaker 3>allows people like you and me to trade information so freely.

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<v Speaker 3>The other side of that coin, the issue to be

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<v Speaker 3>dealt with, is it also allows getivization because those new

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<v Speaker 3>communities that arise never have to experience life outside of

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<v Speaker 3>their own social miliu. There's never any pressure to integrate

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<v Speaker 2>The traditional American dream, because if you're a newly alived migrant,

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<v Speaker 2>you can do.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything online in your own language, with people who talk

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<v Speaker 3>and think like you.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would you have done anything else?

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<v Speaker 1>And then you also have authoritarian governments who try to

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<v Speaker 1>crack down on what they deem to be offensive or

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<v Speaker 1>hurtful comments, and they curtail speech and don't prevent or

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<v Speaker 1>don't allow for the free exercise and exchange of thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>and ideas. And that to me is I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I live in the United States. We have a really

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<v Speaker 1>really well protected freedom of speech here. But when I

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<v Speaker 1>look over the pond and I see what goes on

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<v Speaker 1>in the European Union, I mean, you can you jail

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<v Speaker 1>people for someone deems offensive or hurtful and it just

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<v Speaker 1>runs such a foul to our traditional notions of free speech.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, well, the way I think of this is this,

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<v Speaker 3>when we have discussions and I'm going on a bit

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<v Speaker 3>of a tangent here, I hope you forgive me. But

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<v Speaker 3>when we have discussions now about the future of artificial intelligence,

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<v Speaker 3>we say, one of the problems that we have with

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<v Speaker 3>our future computer overlords is that whoever programs them.

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<v Speaker 2>Gets the sway on where they go.

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<v Speaker 3>So if a computer's greatest good, if the highest possible

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<v Speaker 3>moral outcome for them is that there's never any racism,

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<v Speaker 3>or you know, transgender people are never misgendered, as the

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<v Speaker 3>example goes, then the computer, the artificial intelligence might do

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<v Speaker 3>things that ordinary people find quit totally abhorrent, totally terrible

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<v Speaker 3>to uphold those standards. So if the computer thinks that

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<v Speaker 3>somebody not being misgendered is a higher moral good than

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<v Speaker 3>a misgendering individual is, say an ordinary person being shot,

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<v Speaker 3>then the computer will choose to shoot the person who's committing.

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<v Speaker 2>That thought crime.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, when I look at the way that our political elites,

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<v Speaker 3>which are now being dismantled by the populist uprisings we

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<v Speaker 3>have in Europe and the US, I look at them,

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<v Speaker 3>I think these people are not actually much more intelligent

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<v Speaker 3>way they think and collectively they decide what their their

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<v Speaker 3>greatest goods are, their their moral imperatives, and that might

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<v Speaker 3>be that the greatest moral good this government can deliver

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<v Speaker 3>is that we don't have intercommunal, intercommunity strife, so there's

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<v Speaker 3>And as long as we're achieving that, which, lets be

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<v Speaker 3>honest between you and I, that is definitely a good outcome.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody wants that, right, But if that's your highest moral good,

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<v Speaker 3>then you will stop at nothing to achieve that, even

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<v Speaker 3>prison just in case they do a little naughty, wrong thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, in terms of the makeup of the European Union,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's almost as if you have a version

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<v Speaker 1>of the United States, you have Degreece, you have Germany,

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<v Speaker 1>you have Italy, of all these different countries under the

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<v Speaker 1>erosion of the autonomy of any given country to go

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<v Speaker 1>in a different direction. Oh no, no, Brussels says you

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<v Speaker 1>can't do that, and therefore any election in France maybe

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<v Speaker 1>out of an election because they have this bigger power

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<v Speaker 1>tone than what they can and cannot do. Have I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of got that right a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely, the United State, sorry of the European Union, wants

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<v Speaker 3>to be like the United States. The political I keep

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<v Speaker 3>on using this friend that praise the political leg You

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<v Speaker 3>have to forgive me for sounding like the broken record

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<v Speaker 3>that we have. In Brussels and Strasbourg, which are the

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<v Speaker 3>centers of power of the European Union, they look at

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<v Speaker 2>They want that power. They want to be the federal

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<v Speaker 2>government for Europe. They're not quite, but they're.

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<v Speaker 3>Getting there in terms of the the impact this has

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<v Speaker 3>on ordinary Europeans, You're completely right, and it is an

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<v Speaker 3>enormous issue. So if we look at the United Kingdom,

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<v Speaker 3>for instance, post Brexit, we have recently left the European Union,

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<v Speaker 3>so we no longer have the EU limiting what we

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<v Speaker 3>can do. And it's actually very interesting to witness essentially

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<v Speaker 3>how mentally stunted. The British political class is because they've

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<v Speaker 3>had fifty years where they've never actually had to make

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<v Speaker 3>any decisions. I think if every single item of consequence

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<v Speaker 3>is decided abroad, it's imposed all you're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, And that was this is how the saying went.

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<v Speaker 2>It was government by facts. You're being faxed.

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<v Speaker 3>Laws from the European Union and your only job as

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<v Speaker 3>a legislator was to implement those laws into your own system.

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<v Speaker 2>So we now have this situation where the entire political.

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<v Speaker 3>Class has grown up in a world where they never

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<v Speaker 3>have to think, they never have to innovade, because it's

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<v Speaker 3>always done on their behalf.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think actually.

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<v Speaker 3>We're in a bit of a situation because it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to take entire generation. The people who are capful of

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<v Speaker 3>independent thoughts, they're teenagers now, the people just getting into

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<v Speaker 3>politics for the first time, just thinking about the way

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<v Speaker 3>the world works, and why the people who are going

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<v Speaker 3>to be the government ministers, the activists, the prime ministers

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<v Speaker 3>in thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Or forty years. That's how long it's going to take,

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<v Speaker 3>And if you look at and this is not just

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<v Speaker 3>a UK thing, this is all across Europe, the present

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<v Speaker 3>generation of politicians that we have are afraid of power.

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<v Speaker 3>They rejected and the best possible proof of this totally

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<v Speaker 3>you cannot contradict it.

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<v Speaker 2>In my view.

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<v Speaker 3>As you look at the way the UK works, the

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<v Speaker 3>government still doesn't make decisions. Every possible area of competence

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<v Speaker 3>is farmed out to non government or rather non ministerial organizations.

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<v Speaker 2>We call them quangos.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you know, if you want to make a

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<v Speaker 3>have it implemented.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you're doing the US.

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<v Speaker 3>The president signs a piece of paper by presidential decree.

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<v Speaker 2>This thing happens.

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<v Speaker 3>They say, okay, we recognize there as a problem the

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<v Speaker 3>prison system. We're going to call for a report, an

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<v Speaker 3>inquiry from an arms length body and they'll tell us

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<v Speaker 3>what to do.

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<v Speaker 2>And actually every single area of government is run like this.

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<v Speaker 3>And we remember not perhaps the world's greatest example, we

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<v Speaker 3>remember Liz Trust, the very short lived British Prime minister.

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<v Speaker 3>Conservative Party came in said we need to change things.

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<v Speaker 3>The way the international monetary system works, the way government

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<v Speaker 3>debt works, everything it's all broken and we want.

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<v Speaker 2>To change it.

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<v Speaker 3>And all these little organizations that the government has created

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<v Speaker 3>over the past forty years. When no, you didn't ask us,

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<v Speaker 3>we don't agree, and with that, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Government collapsed instantly.

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<v Speaker 3>Because this network of organizations have been created to control

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<v Speaker 3>the government did not give its consent. It's going to

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<v Speaker 3>take a lot of work to.

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<v Speaker 2>Get beyond that, but I very, very believe it's possible.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what, Oliver Lane. Now you'd be surprised

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<v Speaker 1>how similar we are to written in that regard. We

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<v Speaker 1>call them non governmental organizations, quite often funded by very

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<v Speaker 1>large left wing dollars and the taxpayer dollars. We have

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<v Speaker 1>a very similar political situation. Lots of the work gets

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<v Speaker 1>farmed out to these crazy organizations, and politicians tend to

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<v Speaker 1>not do what they're well elected to do. It's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a fantastic conversation. Empower Youamerica dot org, register

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<v Speaker 1>from home, tune in, make sure they're at seven pm.

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<v Speaker 1>Oliver Lane's going to give you a mucher, larger and

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<v Speaker 1>broader presentation on these and the opportunity to ask him questions. Oliver,

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<v Speaker 1>It's always great talking with you do such a wonderful job.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll look forward to our next discussion here at fifty

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<v Speaker 1>five krs the.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk station, and so that's always been a pleasure.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always mine as well. A twenty at fifty five

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<v Speaker 1>krs the Talks