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Speaker 4: Welcome back truth seekers from around the world. It's time
Speaker 4: for another edition of the Flat Earth Files podcast. I'm
Speaker 4: your host, as always, George Hobbs. We're recording on this
Speaker 4: beautiful morning on Wednesday, Journ eleventh, twenty twenty five. I
Speaker 4: hope this message finds everybody well and your week is
Speaker 4: off to a great start. Our guest joining us from
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Speaker 4: Without any further ado, we're just going to jump right
Speaker 4: into to today's conversation and our guest again joining us
Speaker 4: north of the border, is Joseph. Good morning, Joseph. How
Speaker 4: are you today, sir?
Speaker 1: I'm doing what you sell, George.
Speaker 4: Doing fantastic again. Thanks so much for your time, and
Speaker 4: let's kick things off with an introduction.
Speaker 1: Sounds great, Georgia. My name is Joseph. I'm fifty two
Speaker 1: years old, born and raised in Ottawa, father of three kids,
Speaker 1: and just just enjoying the time. You know, we're living
Speaker 1: in crazy times. It's an exciting time to be a
Speaker 1: lab right now and seeing what's going on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and what's interesting, Joseph is obviously there's a lot
Speaker 4: of things going on in the United States. It'll be
Speaker 4: interesting to see what happens between the time of our
Speaker 4: recording this nine am on a Wednesday morning and the
Speaker 4: time this is actually released. But you have quite the journey,
Speaker 4: you know, I guess close to thirty years. So why
Speaker 4: don't you go ahead and start us on that journey
Speaker 4: if you would.
Speaker 1: Yeah, quickly, I came to know Jesus Christ in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety nine. Jesus became real to me. He saved me,
Speaker 1: he redeemed me, and he set me apart, and he
Speaker 1: called me to do his works. And I'm blessed to
Speaker 1: call to be called a child of God today. And
Speaker 1: I think that's the position that all of us that
Speaker 1: are in Christ should own as children that we know
Speaker 1: the most high. And we were here to bear fruit.
Speaker 1: But my journey was from nineteen eighty eight to nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety nine, and I went through a and epiphany that's
Speaker 1: called it, epiphany that was very strong, where the blinders
Speaker 1: were removed and then could see the world for what
Speaker 1: it was. I could see the lies. I could see
Speaker 1: that the whole thing was a lie. We have been
Speaker 1: lied to you about who God is. We were lied
Speaker 1: to you about what Church is. We were lied to
Speaker 1: you about religion. We were lied to about the finances,
Speaker 1: the politicians, the movies, the music, the things we consume,
Speaker 1: the brands we buy. And I could see through all
Speaker 1: of it, just like that movie you talk about all
Speaker 1: the time on your podcast, is Belived. And never saw
Speaker 1: the movie before, so it's not it was not ingrained
Speaker 1: in my brain. Never saw the movie, and I just
Speaker 1: got the glasses on it. I could see the truth
Speaker 1: behind every message and this quite quite quite a time
Speaker 1: for me. It was great for the people around me,
Speaker 1: it wasn't so great because you're awake, you're starting to
Speaker 1: be awaken and you're starting to share this information and
Speaker 1: people think you're crazy, ager like, what's going on here?
Speaker 1: This epiphany during that time, it was about five day
Speaker 1: period in nineteen ninety eight where things were coming to me,
Speaker 1: and it was I got to say it was I
Speaker 1: was seeing into the spirit, not knowing what was what
Speaker 1: it was because I didn't know Jesus at that time.
Speaker 1: I didn't know about a spiritual battle. I didn't know
Speaker 1: about a spiritual realm. I didn't know about heaven and Hell.
Speaker 1: I was raped Catholic, so the Catholic Church really numbs
Speaker 1: you down in terms of the spiritual part of it.
Speaker 1: So the key things that were coming to me, what's
Speaker 1: frequencies was we're all connected? Was that I was waiting
Speaker 1: for a phone call. I was actually heading by the
Speaker 1: phone waiting for a call. I was I'm going to
Speaker 1: get called. I was telling this to my fiance at
Speaker 1: the time, I'm just waiting If she was like, what
Speaker 1: are you doing with the phone all the time? Is
Speaker 1: I'm just waiting for that call and then we'll be
Speaker 1: taken and I'm going to be taken also. It's all
Speaker 1: these things. It's very, very difficult to try to explain it.
Speaker 1: Sometimes we just got to just trust the messenger and
Speaker 1: the saying, you know what I saw things, and these
Speaker 1: messages of you know, the wild will be controlled with
Speaker 1: which is the will is not what it is. And
Speaker 1: there's another part too. My mind was always focusing the
Speaker 1: history is not what it's. What we're told in history
Speaker 1: is not what it is. So all this was very strong.
Speaker 1: I couldn't sleep for the week, led me to the hospital.
Speaker 1: Was in the hospital for three days, uh three days
Speaker 1: to nights unfirsting enough and then woke up like nothing
Speaker 1: happened during that time the hospital, still seeing visions, very
Speaker 1: strong visions. And that led me to the search of
Speaker 1: what happened, and it brought me to Christ. It brought
Speaker 1: me all the answers I was looking for was in
Speaker 1: the Bible. All the answers came full circle through the
Speaker 1: word of God. Gave my life to Christ, and that
Speaker 1: that moment on when the Bible says, or whoever is inquired,
Speaker 1: Jesus is the new creation, the all that's gone in
Speaker 1: us come. That happened over instantly. When I gave my
Speaker 1: heart to Christ, everything changed, new language, new habits, is
Speaker 1: a joy unspeakable. And my first calling ap to die
Speaker 1: was I need to tell everyone about this. I somehow
Speaker 1: was the last man standing thing. Everybody was waiting for
Speaker 1: me to get on board here. But it turned out
Speaker 1: it wasn't the case. Everybody was very objective, very negative
Speaker 1: towards my son in love for Christ. But anyways, here
Speaker 1: I am in twenty fourteen. Well before that, given my
Speaker 1: English is my second language, George, so I'm gonna sometimes
Speaker 1: search my word. You're doing awesome, Okay, great, So through that.
Speaker 1: So having the blinders remove, everything's a lie and you
Speaker 1: can see through it. But it's an interesting thing because
Speaker 1: when it comes to where we live, never connecting to
Speaker 1: Dodge until about twenty fourteen, started to travel a lot
Speaker 1: and start asking questions, and it brought me to a
Speaker 1: full understanding that, you know, the earth is not a ball,
Speaker 1: and it's not spinning in a void, and God is
Speaker 1: literally on top of us. You know. I would hear
Speaker 1: preachings and and and and and sermons about you know,
Speaker 1: the first, second and third Heaven and how the second
Speaker 1: Coming of Christ will happen. I've heard preachers say it's
Speaker 1: going to be a twenty four hour event. As the
Speaker 1: earth turns that way, crisis coming, everybody's gonna see it.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a twenty four hour event. I'm like,
Speaker 1: it makes no sense. The Bible says every I shall
Speaker 1: see Him. How is that going to happen on the ball.
Speaker 1: So asking these critical questions led me to understand, I
Speaker 1: don't think we're living on a spinning ball here. And
Speaker 1: the progression of it was crazy, it was great. And
Speaker 1: now we have this community here that so many people
Speaker 1: were awakened to the same thing. To me, one thing, George,
Speaker 1: is I got to thank you for everything you're doing
Speaker 1: right now. I think it's anointed. I think it's spirit field.
Speaker 1: I think it is it's church. You know. I listened
Speaker 1: to all your podcasts. I listened to all the guests
Speaker 1: that you have and I've learned so much And and
Speaker 1: just a shout out to all the guests have been
Speaker 1: on the show before before myself. You have done. These
Speaker 1: people have brought so much of truth, so much of inspiration,
Speaker 1: so much of Godliness into the community where you know
Speaker 1: what this is real?
Speaker 4: Amen, and thank you for the kind words, and certainly
Speaker 4: a big tip of the cap to everyone who's come
Speaker 4: before you, when you know had the courage to come
Speaker 4: on this platform and share their journey with the masses
Speaker 4: as well. It has encouraged so many people to say, well,
Speaker 4: if these folks can do it, then I can certainly,
Speaker 4: you know, speak openly about biblical cosmology as well. A
Speaker 4: couple of notes about some things you mentioned, and something
Speaker 4: that is I think a little deeper than what many
Speaker 4: people realize is when you talked about they live and
Speaker 4: being able to when the veil falls from man's eyes,
Speaker 4: to be being able to see things. So many logos
Speaker 4: within corporate America are satanic and a prime example is
Speaker 4: Monster Energy Drink which has the six sixty six logo
Speaker 4: and Hebrew and there's you know that get meant that
Speaker 4: gets mentioned a lot, but what they don't take that
Speaker 4: next step and realize if if you don't think there's
Speaker 4: more to that than just a logo and a sign.
Speaker 4: If you think about it, Monsters impact on health, it's
Speaker 4: called monster. It causes heart palpitations, in arrhythmia, anxiety, insomnia,
Speaker 4: dental problems, dehydration. So you know, we champion this stuff.
Speaker 4: And this is a prime example of something that when
Speaker 4: you step into the secular world, you have to have
Speaker 4: your your your glasses on because it's it's right before
Speaker 4: your eyes. And and when this knowledge comes upon you,
Speaker 4: it's your responsibility to share it with others and warn
Speaker 4: them and listen. You can't force others to to, you know,
Speaker 4: to drink the water you provide them. But at least
Speaker 4: we have to, you know, we're told it's our responsibility.
Speaker 4: A like you said, our primary mission is to share
Speaker 4: the gospel of Jesus Christ, but all the other things
Speaker 4: that come with it, these secular warnings and and things
Speaker 4: that can impact our lives. So we should share with
Speaker 4: others as well. Would you agree with that?
Speaker 1: Talking about logos, and that was the key thing, you know,
Speaker 1: And during that time of that epiphany, I was scanning
Speaker 1: my home during that event, and I could see the
Speaker 1: logos and I radily threw everything out. And it's uh like,
Speaker 1: for example, you know, you take a look at any
Speaker 1: any any brands that have a star on it. To me,
Speaker 1: that's the company or corporation, corporation that's sold out to
Speaker 1: the devil. You know, why do they have a star
Speaker 1: on a Heineken beer. Why do they have a star
Speaker 1: on time pulled the Green Old Water? Why did they
Speaker 1: have a star on all these labels Starbucks, Star Stars,
Speaker 1: Star Stars. They used the star of the pentagram. There's
Speaker 1: no reason that all leave companies have the same logos
Speaker 1: or the same symbol. There is a reason for it.
Speaker 4: That makes sense, George, Yeah, it makes perfect sense. And
Speaker 4: that's a great point, and that I wanted to also
Speaker 4: mention not to run astray from logos. But while I'm
Speaker 4: still thinking about it, you had mentioned, you had mentioned
Speaker 4: that when you first came upon the knowledge of Jesus,
Speaker 4: you felt compelled to share it. And isn't it interesting
Speaker 4: that you got kind of the same reaction sharing the
Speaker 4: Gospel of Jesus as we do when we try to
Speaker 4: share biblical cosmology.
Speaker 1: And it's it's and it's it's the same.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I went through to for example, after I came to
Speaker 1: know the truth of Christ, I was called to to
Speaker 1: I get six our five siblings from I'm a family
Speaker 1: at six and my first mission, that's called it mission whatever,
Speaker 1: it was to meet with them one on one and
Speaker 1: to share them my testimony. And some of them received
Speaker 1: it and some of them was nashing. They were nashing,
Speaker 1: like the head spinning like. It was like, what the
Speaker 1: heck's going on here? I was never anticipating this type
Speaker 1: of reaction. But you know, as we progress in our walking,
Speaker 1: our journey, it's you know, our journey with Christ. It's
Speaker 1: not a it's not an easy one. It's impossible actually,
Speaker 1: because we are weak and we are in the flesh still,
Speaker 1: and the flesh wrestles against against the spirit all the time.
Speaker 1: It's contrary. So so you know, so when you come
Speaker 1: to realize where you want to talk about, you know,
Speaker 1: they we're not on the spinning ball. And you start
Speaker 1: sharing that message within the people of Christ and they
Speaker 1: have the same reaction. You know, I'm sharing this with
Speaker 1: some people that are close to me, that serve Christ
Speaker 1: for a long time, and you start talking about biblicult cosmology,
Speaker 1: to start talking about Genesis one, and you go into
Speaker 1: all the verses and there's plenty of them, and they
Speaker 1: kick you on their house. They have a strange reaction.
Speaker 1: It is crazy. Just to let you know how deep
Speaker 1: the indoctrination is. And it starts from childhood. It starts
Speaker 1: from birth, you know, especially here in the West, Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, you've got a toddler in their crib and
Speaker 1: they've got a globe solar system twirling around their their
Speaker 1: heads in their cribs, and it starts and it starts,
Speaker 1: and it's a programming program me, and yeah, so it's
Speaker 1: we we we just need to be a bit more
Speaker 1: understanding of that and compassionate and and continue to plant
Speaker 1: seeds or breadcrumbs like you would say, and hopefully they'll
Speaker 1: come to a point where they'll start researching, because there's
Speaker 1: great content out there if they search in the right place.
Speaker 1: And I always mentioned to them, never sure won't search
Speaker 1: it on Google. If you're going to search this, don't
Speaker 1: search it on Google. And this was one of the
Speaker 1: motivations of why I wanted to come on your show, George,
Speaker 1: is to be able to have to share with some people.
Speaker 1: You know, this is real. There's just not only me
Speaker 1: that thinking this way. There's a I think that the
Speaker 1: metrics was percent of Americas believes that the Earth is
Speaker 1: swat and some another percentage there on the on the
Speaker 1: fence on it. There's a lot of people. There's there's
Speaker 1: huge numbers and people are being awakened all the same
Speaker 1: time for a reason which leads to thought, just to
Speaker 1: let you know, And a lot of times I would call, well,
Speaker 1: this is not a falivation issue. Well it sure helps, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it sure helps. It is a tool that we use
Speaker 1: to be able to you know, they're lying about this,
Speaker 1: Why they're lying about this, to keep your eyes focus
Speaker 1: on something else.
Speaker 4: But God, yep.
Speaker 1: And and yeah it's braidy times, George, it's pretty interesting times,
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 4: And all of this is meant to trivialize God's creation,
Speaker 4: and again it's it's another misinterpretation. It's another uh, you
Speaker 4: know spell if you will, and you know the magic
Speaker 4: with a K and all of these things are intended
Speaker 4: to cause or influence, you know, a course of events
Speaker 4: or beliefs. And that's why once you kind of wake up,
Speaker 4: you can't unsee these things, and you are able to
Speaker 4: kind of unlearn and reprogram how the world is. It
Speaker 4: is really how it operates. And when you think about it,
Speaker 4: I mean, when you're born again, if you were born
Speaker 4: and just dropped off on an island, you would never
Speaker 4: think in a million years that you lived on a ball.
Speaker 4: So that goes to speak of the great psychological effort
Speaker 4: that they put into making you believe even though you
Speaker 4: can't feel, even though you know water doesn't bend, You
Speaker 4: know that that rivers can't flow upstream up a hill, right,
Speaker 4: But they coerce you to believe all of that. Not
Speaker 4: only that, but if you believe against it, that you're
Speaker 4: just a nutshob. You're crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's hate speech, you know, especially here in Ottawa.
Speaker 1: Ottawa is I love Ottawa. It's a beautiful city. The location
Speaker 1: is fantastic, in between Toronto and Montreal and an hour
Speaker 1: south here in New York State. So so I think
Speaker 1: if I would take get in my car right now,
Speaker 1: i'd be a knocking on your door in eight hours.
Speaker 1: So it's a great location just around all these cities.
Speaker 1: But it's woken how do you call that again? The
Speaker 1: woke movement as has taken over the city.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: If you would google the Ottawa city logo, you'll see
Speaker 1: it's six sixty six. You know, you got the o
Speaker 1: and you got three three things that'd be the sixth
Speaker 1: The city has sold out?
Speaker 4: Oh wow, I never knew that, you see it? Yes,
Speaker 4: I do. And it's kind of like the Build Back
Speaker 4: Better or or the Chrome almost like the BBB. The
Speaker 4: chrome logo yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Wow. So this is a city that's sold out. Many
Speaker 1: different corporation has installed themselves here in the city. A
Speaker 1: lot of tech. This this this back in the in
Speaker 1: the nineties, we high tech came to Ottawa planting themselves
Speaker 1: here and we know technology today is it is great,
Speaker 1: but we know it's a vehicle where the enemy uses
Speaker 1: and uh control the minds. Another thing I found the
Speaker 1: epifany is is that we will we will all be
Speaker 1: stuck in our TVs and we are ye. This back
Speaker 1: then in into ninety eight, we didn't have the camminology
Speaker 1: we have today, and that was one thing I was
Speaker 1: telling people, We're gonna be stuck in TV's whatever. I
Speaker 1: feel what I had in the epiphany was like a
Speaker 1: prophetic vision of the future before I came to know Jesus.
Speaker 1: So that way, when I came to know Jesus, I
Speaker 1: knew it was real because everything connected. All my questions
Speaker 1: were answered full circle. So you take a look at
Speaker 1: the Autawa symbol. You've got, You've got the adult industry
Speaker 1: have their their their main office in Ottawa. Like so
Speaker 1: many different corporations are coming to the city. The corporate
Speaker 1: world is taking over small businesses. So they have complete control.
Speaker 1: Keep in mind, you know it's not about the God
Speaker 1: is above all things, and the devil's is a deceiver
Speaker 1: and that thief and a liar, right so, and he's
Speaker 1: here to destroy and he's also copycatting God. He's hijacked
Speaker 1: everything that is good and inverted and the inversions. You know,
Speaker 1: if I tell a Christian brother, yeah, let's do it
Speaker 1: an herbal and herbal solution to help your cold, He's
Speaker 1: gonna call me, are you a witch or something like that. Now,
Speaker 1: this God has provided us with everything we need on
Speaker 1: this earth to take care of us. He's like, I
Speaker 1: don't wear sunscreen? Why? Because why would God put something
Speaker 1: in the sky that's going to hurt his creation? Hey man,
Speaker 1: everything else feeds from it, Everything else feeds from it.
Speaker 1: I haven't worn sunglasses in years because I know this.
Speaker 1: It's important to get that light in my eyes. It's
Speaker 1: important to get into my body. You could absorb the
Speaker 1: light like you would do water, if that makes sense.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, And you know, if anybody takes just a little
Speaker 4: bit of time, there was a bunch I think this
Speaker 4: reason is twenty twenty one A Johnson had to recall
Speaker 4: five aerosol you know, used to have the spray that
Speaker 4: the sunscreens spray because they were recalled for having I know,
Speaker 4: I'm going to say this wrong oxy benzone or something
Speaker 4: like that in it. And everything again that everything that
Speaker 4: is under the guys of good is bad. The sun
Speaker 4: is bad, but the spray is good. And then you
Speaker 4: see people get melanoma and they blame it on the sun.
Speaker 4: And if you think about that, think about those words.
Speaker 4: And we talk about spells, blame it on the sun.
Speaker 4: Think about those words.
Speaker 1: That's amazing.
Speaker 4: It's got a very deep meaning to it. Right, everything
Speaker 4: is inverted. And the other thing I wanted to mention
Speaker 4: was sometimes we can I'm trying to word this correctly.
Speaker 4: Sometimes things like the US Constitution or you guys, I'm
Speaker 4: sure have some type of constitution in Canada. I'm not
Speaker 4: completely up to par with it. But sometimes I think
Speaker 4: we go to protected those things more than we protect
Speaker 4: the word of God. For instance, you had mentioned that
Speaker 4: porn hub is based in Ottawa, and so in America
Speaker 4: pornography is protected under the First Amendment. So that's again
Speaker 4: the things that we see is good. Anytime there's something
Speaker 4: that crosses God's law, it's our duty and it's our
Speaker 4: responsibility to stand up to it. So you know, you'll
Speaker 4: hear people say, well, nothing's perfect and politics this and that. No,
Speaker 4: that is evil. That is the root of evil. You know,
Speaker 4: during the Southern Baptist Convention, they were putting out numbers
Speaker 4: and something to the effect of sixty percent of all
Speaker 4: men who attend church look at porn. How destructive that is,
Speaker 4: yet it's protected by our government.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is, it is, it is. It is disturbing
Speaker 1: and concerning and and yeah wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I also wanted to mention that I found it
Speaker 4: amazing that basically you came to flat Earth without a
Speaker 4: bunch of YouTube videos, books or things of that nature.
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously at the point you realized that you
Speaker 4: probably started searching and looking out for it. But was
Speaker 4: it twenty fourteen when you kind of first came upon
Speaker 4: flat earth?
Speaker 1: Twenty fourteen was yeah, absolutely, it was the It was
Speaker 1: the beginning of the big questions. And I believe, well,
Speaker 1: I don't believe, I do know what brought me to
Speaker 1: this truth or to understand this truth is just our
Speaker 1: own common observation. The way you feel, the way you see.
Speaker 1: You know, I was flying to South America from Toronto
Speaker 1: to Santiago, Chile, and you're on the forty fifth parallel
Speaker 1: nor going to the thirty third south. And I was excited.
Speaker 1: I was excited to feel because you're just a thousandears
Speaker 1: just as under as Australia that parallel, and I just
Speaker 1: I couldn't wait to feel what I would feel, you know,
Speaker 1: the difference of being upside down and question that. And
Speaker 1: it was my first long flight and going from the
Speaker 1: north to the south. So I'm like a kid in
Speaker 1: a candy store and I'm at the window seat, I'm
Speaker 1: looking at I'm looking outside the window the whole time
Speaker 1: it's a ten hour flight. I'm not taking a nap,
Speaker 1: I'm not sleeping, I'm not you know, I'm not watching movies.
Speaker 1: I'm looking out. And the whole time it was a fly,
Speaker 1: I could be the horizon never curved, there was no curvature,
Speaker 1: there's nothing, there's nothing. So trigger happy on my phone
Speaker 1: taking pictures of everything. And then it's a long flight,
Speaker 1: and then I'm questioning, just you know, I have to
Speaker 1: travel within the country and try to short flights to
Speaker 1: New York City and stuff like that, but this was
Speaker 1: my longest life. Why did these things have to be
Speaker 1: so uncomfortable. Can't they just make them plane of like
Speaker 1: ten feet look wider and ten feet longer, so that
Speaker 1: way we could have some room and more comfortable. But
Speaker 1: the whole one, you start thinking about it, the whole
Speaker 1: aviation process makes you uncomfortable all the time. So that
Speaker 1: way you're not focused on other things. You know, you're
Speaker 1: not comfortable to be sitting like it's fitting and maybe
Speaker 1: checking the views like I want to be checking the views.
Speaker 1: I want to see the Andes Mountains. I want to
Speaker 1: see the ocean, and I want to see all these things,
Speaker 1: and I want to feel. I want to feel being
Speaker 1: upside down. And I got there and I feel I
Speaker 1: felt fantastic, look as thought as could be. And another
Speaker 1: another thing that really questioning, I was questioning a lot
Speaker 1: is the sun ninety three million miles away? Where's the tool?
Speaker 1: I want to see the tool? How did they measure that?
Speaker 1: I want to see that laser. I want to see
Speaker 1: that tool. And how does this sun? That light travel
Speaker 1: through darkness and there's you can't see the light and
Speaker 1: then just for some reason just glows on this earth.
Speaker 1: You know, they've got the questions they found Philly. It's
Speaker 1: true uh, where's the light? And out of space? Where's
Speaker 1: the light on the moon or the land alo of it?
Speaker 1: You know, you start thinking about NASA flying to the
Speaker 1: moon or flying out of space. They're going into unknown territory.
Speaker 1: Where's the equipment just in case you get attacked? Where
Speaker 1: are the guns? Yep? Look at the cast. Look at
Speaker 1: the cast of actors in those still they look like
Speaker 1: out of shape people. You wouldn't you would never think
Speaker 1: you would You think g I Jo would be on that,
Speaker 1: on that massa, on that NASA uh uh flight. See
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You look at the cast.
Speaker 4: Yeah, many friend flipping microphones.
Speaker 1: They're flipping microphones. This is what we were spending seventy
Speaker 1: million dollars per day for you to show me how
Speaker 1: to flip a or how bubbles of water, bubbles of water.
Speaker 1: Look at this baseball. They're dumbing us down, indeed, and
Speaker 1: very afraid. Look you just look at the just look
Speaker 1: at the cat. Think about that. You start thinking about
Speaker 1: the cast of path of features and people on it.
Speaker 1: You know, what kind of training do they have they're
Speaker 1: going to on on unclean territory. Who's up there? They're
Speaker 1: telling they're the alien? What happens to the aliens that
Speaker 1: packed them when they're in outer space? Where are the
Speaker 1: guns on that ship? Where the where you see what
Speaker 1: I'm saying? Where does that make sense to you? Doing?
Speaker 4: It makes perfect sense? And it's it's not a coincidence
Speaker 4: that the first three men that quote unquote went to
Speaker 4: the moon got their little you know spot on the
Speaker 4: Hollywood Walk of Fame where all the actors are you
Speaker 4: know included, and that's what they are, their actors. And
Speaker 4: again we can debate whether or not they knew from
Speaker 4: the get go or kind of like that movie in
Speaker 4: the seventies where they basically were told as they were
Speaker 4: entering the capsule that hey, you know this isn't really
Speaker 4: you're not going to the moon, right, So we can
Speaker 4: argue that and what an unfair burden it was to
Speaker 4: be placed on these people, Right, if your family was threatened,
Speaker 4: what are you going to do? Because again I think
Speaker 4: Neil Armstrong is the perfect example of this. But have
Speaker 4: they been doing that for the last fifty years?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 4: Mk Ultra? Do they write how does this election work?
Speaker 4: I do believe these people that are put on the
Speaker 4: world stage, from Sirhan Sirhan to the guy who shot
Speaker 4: John Lennin to I mean, you name it. I think
Speaker 4: they have to fit a certain profile, right at some
Speaker 4: point that they're identified as easily manipulated and controlled. And
Speaker 4: I think it's the exact same thing with these folks
Speaker 4: who play the role of astronauts. They believe in their hearts,
Speaker 4: maybe through manipulation, that they are doing this for the
Speaker 4: greater good. Right, I truly believe that they think that
Speaker 4: they're doing that for the greater good, but they don't
Speaker 4: understand the irreparable damage they're doing by making people believe
Speaker 4: that we live in this endless realm of space that
Speaker 4: we're moving at four hundred thousand. This is just such
Speaker 4: a blatant lie. And to think that we start our
Speaker 4: children out in life with two lies. Number one, that Santa,
Speaker 4: which is an anagram of Satan. You know, twenty four
Speaker 4: hours goes around the globe to deliver presents, and and
Speaker 4: the globe itself, that that's the world we live in.
Speaker 1: And I was saying, you know, I think this. You've
Speaker 1: got over two hundred shows, and many of your guests
Speaker 1: you've talked about it, so many of these things that
Speaker 1: you know, and but it's for the ones that are
Speaker 1: not convinced of this truth. And and that's the reason
Speaker 1: why I'm talking this way, so for them to ask
Speaker 1: these type of questions. If you're searching in your curious uh,
Speaker 1: and how does it change your mind? That does it
Speaker 1: change your life? It changes everything? And especially if you're
Speaker 1: a child of God, you cannot even imagine, you know this,
Speaker 1: how it change just the way you read scripture and
Speaker 1: how you approach the Father. You know that when you're
Speaker 1: looking up into the blue in God's blue room, you
Speaker 1: know he's right there above us. You know, No, we
Speaker 1: don't know everything because we are we need to really
Speaker 1: humility and humble ourselves to say, you know, I'm creative,
Speaker 1: I'm not the creator. And sometimes in our own ego
Speaker 1: and arrogant sometimes we think we have it all figured out.
Speaker 1: But sometimes we just got to let the unexplainable have
Speaker 1: its way and allow the mysteries of Christ have its
Speaker 1: way in your heart and soul, so that way He
Speaker 1: will give you the wisdom. He will give you the knowledge.
Speaker 1: All wisdom and not come from the Father, doesn't come
Speaker 1: from this world. You know. The devil rules the world.
Speaker 1: He hates God. He's certainly not going to like his creation.
Speaker 1: He's going to do everything he can to put blockers
Speaker 1: so that way he did not see the truth. And
Speaker 1: this ball is spinning ball is a blocker. We in
Speaker 1: the past two two or three years with all this
Speaker 1: pride stuff and the transgender movement, that's all that we're
Speaker 1: talking a lot about blockers and stuff like that. Other
Speaker 1: there's lots of blockers. And the globe is a blocker
Speaker 1: to your spiritual identity because when you trying to mix
Speaker 1: what NASA is teaching or what the world is teaching
Speaker 1: in terms of this creation, and you try to mix
Speaker 1: with it what it makes no sense. And I could
Speaker 1: understand why it may need some some true pursuite. Some
Speaker 1: people walk away from the face or walk away because
Speaker 1: it makes no sense. Genesis one doesn't make sense with
Speaker 1: it's spinning ball just doesn't. This doesn't add up, and
Speaker 1: then that doesn't add up. You know, you talk to
Speaker 1: look at take a look at the numbers. Always the
Speaker 1: repetition of the sixty six sixth numbers. There's no coincidences, yeah,
Speaker 1: one hundred percent.
Speaker 4: And you know you mentioned blockers right. If you put
Speaker 4: you know, you know, blockers transgender, you get puberty blockers.
Speaker 4: If you put in sun blockers, you know, it comes
Speaker 4: up sunscreen and we just we're talking about sunscreen, and
Speaker 4: you know, I think there's some people who aren't quite
Speaker 4: aware of the nefarious nature of the the camtrails in
Speaker 4: the spring of the sky. Some people think it is
Speaker 4: to actually put you know, barium and aluminum, which is
Speaker 4: certainly part of it, be a a l right, but
Speaker 4: it is also to keep the sun away from us,
Speaker 4: to keep us unhealthy, and to try to disconnect us
Speaker 4: from God. I fully believe that that's what they're trying to.
Speaker 1: Do, absolutely, because I think with the cantwef subject too
Speaker 1: is I think also there they're hiding. They're hiding the lights,
Speaker 1: they're hiding. If you're I'm telling you, if somebody starts
Speaker 1: with see I always looking at the stars all the time.
Speaker 1: This is one of the things that made no sense.
Speaker 1: I start to look at the moon, start to look
Speaker 1: at the fun try to make sense of it all
Speaker 1: with the stuzz always the things every night, it's always
Speaker 1: starting to cheat the sun and the moon in the
Speaker 1: same picture. We're starting to see the moon in the
Speaker 1: daytime and you're starting asking those questions, how is this possible?
Speaker 1: If we're on the spinning ball. You start asking that question,
Speaker 1: is there's a steering inside of you. You'll get there,
Speaker 1: just like the steering of the steering of understanding what
Speaker 1: happens after we die? Where am I going after we die?
Speaker 1: These questions hear you towards the truth and the enemy
Speaker 1: that because it's the battle of the soul. You know,
Speaker 1: there's something powerful about the soul of man that God
Speaker 1: chose to leave heaven to come to this earth as
Speaker 1: Jesus and die for us, for us to have that
Speaker 1: way back to him, there's got to be something about
Speaker 1: us that was we're dying for. And this is something
Speaker 1: that's not preached enough. We preach about this in nature.
Speaker 1: And another thing that we you know, especially here in
Speaker 1: my experience with church and different churches, is that you
Speaker 1: tend to keep the congregation in there's in nature by
Speaker 1: you know, undeservingly deserved it, and we do. You know,
Speaker 1: we're saved by graves and there's nothing I did to
Speaker 1: earn it. It's on American favor. I don't know if
Speaker 1: that makes any sense to you, John George.
Speaker 4: No, it makes perfect sense. And you really hit on
Speaker 4: something when you were talking about again what it means
Speaker 4: to spray chemtrails. And you know a lot of this,
Speaker 4: I don't know how much you've looked into it is
Speaker 4: DARPA And there's even been stories as recently is last
Speaker 4: month interesting article by Medea Gear talking about that there
Speaker 4: was a US bioweapons insider, a whistleblower confirmed that they
Speaker 4: were trying to delete And again I don't buy into
Speaker 4: all of these things how they're they're they're stated. I
Speaker 4: think they have a greater meaning to it. I know
Speaker 4: they call it the god gene. Yes, that was something
Speaker 4: that was talked about a lot during COVID, that the
Speaker 4: the Mr and a jab was taking out the god gene.
Speaker 4: There was a somebody had posted something that went viral,
Speaker 4: some type of speech in Harvard or something that kind
Speaker 4: of touched on it as well. But it should be
Speaker 4: known that these people who have all the money in
Speaker 4: the world, listen, if there was no God, no Satan,
Speaker 4: they would take their money and they would go to
Speaker 4: a beach and they'd live out the rest of their lives.
Speaker 4: But they've signed they work for Satan, and their job,
Speaker 4: as long as they're going to keep their wealth, their
Speaker 4: duty is to right to get as many people away
Speaker 4: from God as possible. Now, I think they're they're coming
Speaker 4: to a point Joseph, that I think they're trying to
Speaker 4: do all these things to force And I'm telling you
Speaker 4: this is what they're thinking. There's a lot of interesting
Speaker 4: articles written about this. That they're doing all of these
Speaker 4: crazy things is to try to force the return of Christ.
Speaker 4: Is that something you've heard about.
Speaker 1: I have not heard of that. I've not heard of that.
Speaker 1: But I think they do know something. They they I
Speaker 1: think in the spiritual world and in the spiritual realm,
Speaker 1: the battle of good and evil, there's there's suff abbing
Speaker 1: and and and I think in Matt Tew two, I
Speaker 1: think you know we're talking. I know I've heard so
Speaker 1: many of your guest talking about it. Are we in
Speaker 1: the Devil's little season or right? Or are we pre
Speaker 1: tribe or the rapture? Is it real or not? I
Speaker 1: believe we're living in Matt Tew twenty four. I think
Speaker 1: Matt Tew twenty four is the the prophecy of Jesus
Speaker 1: Christ telling his disciples of how it's going to be
Speaker 1: in the last days. And and if you I read
Speaker 1: it this morning before I came on here to to
Speaker 1: have more clarity of it, and and and and you
Speaker 1: read that chapter and you're seeing what's going on in
Speaker 1: the world. Those there's pretty pretty tangible proof that we're
Speaker 1: living in those times where you know the rumors of
Speaker 1: wars and wars, there's there's lovers of them men. We
Speaker 1: you take a look at just the selfie movements, you
Speaker 1: know there'll be the lover of men, will be lovers
Speaker 1: of themselves. And there's been so much recorded about nothing
Speaker 1: these days that people have documented nothing. People are selfie, selfie,
Speaker 1: selfie and selfi. You go to a park, to an
Speaker 1: amusement park, you go anywhere in public, you're getting keep
Speaker 1: over their phones and taking selfies.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and that that's all that also self world.
Speaker 1: We're living in a self world. Self serve. You go
Speaker 1: to the grocery store and you know you got self
Speaker 1: checkout self self self yep.
Speaker 4: And that falls into the category of pride as well. Absolutely,
Speaker 4: it truly does. And you know what is that whole Yeah, no,
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, but you had said that in Matthew twenty
Speaker 4: four to six that says you will hear war, you
Speaker 4: will hear of wars and rumors of wars. But in
Speaker 4: two verses before that, it says Jesus answered, watch out
Speaker 4: that no one deceives you. Yes, he's letting people know
Speaker 4: that that you are actively being deceived, right, and that's
Speaker 4: that is something. Again, Satan can't create anything, but he
Speaker 4: can surely deceive you.
Speaker 1: Yes, you need the Father of life. Jesus claim that,
Speaker 1: And yeah, absolutely, one hundred percent. I don't know for you, George,
Speaker 1: but for me, I got a pretty busy lifestyle. And
Speaker 1: the days are just flying by, like flying by in
Speaker 1: a way that I've never experienced in my life. And
Speaker 1: it's not only for me, it's for my children too.
Speaker 1: My talk I have these conversations with my three children,
Speaker 1: which I talk about this with them all the time,
Speaker 1: and they're on board and it's for their journey to
Speaker 1: rediscover it all and and I just like to be
Speaker 1: there as a guide. But they're feeling the same way.
Speaker 1: It's like the days are going by like crazy, Like
Speaker 1: it's right now at ten o'clock Eastern time, it's well,
Speaker 1: you know it, we'll be having dinner. You know, it
Speaker 1: is crazy where time goes. And in Matthew twenty four
Speaker 1: talked about the days will be shortened for our sake.
Speaker 1: Also we're June. For we're June ninety eleven. We feel
Speaker 1: like yesterday we celebrated New Year's Day.
Speaker 4: That's right, verse twenty two. If those days had not
Speaker 4: been cut short, no one will survive. But the sake
Speaker 4: of the elect those days will be shortened. And it
Speaker 4: talks about if you fast forward to verse twenty nine,
Speaker 4: it says the sun will be darkened.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting as truth seekers. And I was very
Speaker 4: guilty of this earlier in my truth and career, if
Speaker 4: you will. But when I'd look for answers to things,
Speaker 4: I'd look on websites, I'd look in you know, YouTube video,
Speaker 4: and I'd have a Bible sitting right next to me,
Speaker 4: and I'd look everywhere but there. And now, as as
Speaker 4: you evolve and realize that you know, the truth is
Speaker 4: right there, it's right there in the.
Speaker 1: Bible, and and I think this is where Daniel twelve,
Speaker 1: there will be an increase of knowledge, like there's no
Speaker 1: reason why I should have It's it's sometimes it's difficult
Speaker 1: to be able to communicate what what what is shown
Speaker 1: to us through through scripture or through the spirit, and
Speaker 1: it's cut sometimes to express it. But the increase of knowledge,
Speaker 1: the way I understand more than ever. There's no reasons
Speaker 1: for me to be like when Jesus he's going to
Speaker 1: qualify the unqualified. He's doing that as we speak. I trust,
Speaker 1: I trust, and I trust. I have been saying this
Speaker 1: for about two or three years now, and I said,
Speaker 1: we're walking into a season where God is resisting the
Speaker 1: proud and we're walking in those signs, these bird pains,
Speaker 1: this climate change hoax. If because man is trying to
Speaker 1: or man, I should say, the devil, he doesn't want
Speaker 1: to tell people these are the signs of hapveit. This
Speaker 1: is the signs of God. God is talking to you
Speaker 1: through these signs, the weather patterns, the You know, when
Speaker 1: you read the Book of Enoch, there's a part in
Speaker 1: the Book of Enoch that talks about how the sun
Speaker 1: and the moon and the luminaries are managed. It talks
Speaker 1: about how the winds are managed. This is not man
Speaker 1: controlling the weather. This is them creating an illusion that
Speaker 1: they are creating. They're controlling the weather so that way
Speaker 1: we put our eyes on men, we're not putting our
Speaker 1: eyes on God. You quote Songs one eighteen eight all
Speaker 1: the time in an adverse. I quote all the time,
Speaker 1: not to trust in men. We're told right in the
Speaker 1: center you search one eighteen eight. You know there's some
Speaker 1: articles I say had that's the center verse of the Bible.
Speaker 1: There's one thousand, one hundred and eighty eight chapters in
Speaker 1: the Bible, and the center versus Psalms one eighteen eight.
Speaker 1: The shorter chapter in the Bible is one seventeen in
Speaker 1: longest is one nineteen. I believe. So how can man
Speaker 1: or orches straight these these scriptures? No one only got
Speaker 1: himself to do this.
Speaker 4: Amen. Yeah, it's interesting that you had mentioned about climate
Speaker 4: change because our friends ken Hammond friends at the Answers
Speaker 4: in Genesis, they just mentioned yesterday that climate and weather
Speaker 4: are out of man's control, right and all there are
Speaker 4: things that they put out are such spot on the
Speaker 4: Earth is only sixty five hundred years old, evolution does
Speaker 4: not is not compatible with the Book of Genesis. And
Speaker 4: then like right after that, a flat earth has been
Speaker 4: disproved by observational science. It's like, how can you not
Speaker 4: see this? I just want to get on a plane
Speaker 4: and fly down to Kentucky and walk into Kenham's office
Speaker 4: and man, you're you're so close. How can you not
Speaker 4: see this?
Speaker 1: I think this awakening of Why is it important? Well,
Speaker 1: because this is our father's creation, and obviously we will
Speaker 1: stand up. We will, we will speak. It's important he
Speaker 1: created it. You dumb itwn or not dumb it down,
Speaker 1: but bring it to your own home, in your own family.
Speaker 1: If the neighbor flanders the father of that your your house,
Speaker 1: aren't the kids going to rise up? Yeah? Aren't the
Speaker 1: kids going to rise up to defend the honor of
Speaker 1: the father. Absolutely? Well, this is why it's important, George.
Speaker 1: It's important that we stand up and speak the truth
Speaker 1: with love. Yes, speak the truth with love when people
Speaker 1: tell me for me because of my progression, my progressive
Speaker 1: are waking into the flat earth for me, And don't
Speaker 1: talk to people about this like this doesn't makes sense.
Speaker 1: Look at boats, look at the tea level, look at
Speaker 1: start talking about outer space? Where is outer space? What
Speaker 1: is that? Where's God? How come we don't feel the
Speaker 1: How come we don't feel the spin? How don't we
Speaker 1: feel the wind of the spin? How we're moving on?
Speaker 1: There's three speeds. There's a speed on itself, twenty four hours.
Speaker 1: That's a fast print of events. Twenty four hours is
Speaker 1: a full spin on itself. We're seeing the same stars,
Speaker 1: and then we're moving forward around the sun, and then
Speaker 1: we're projecting forward. Yep. Just think about your imagination. This
Speaker 1: is a gift of God. Your imagination is a gift
Speaker 1: of God. Do people imagine if you imagine flying up
Speaker 1: to the blue, what do you see? You'll never see
Speaker 1: the ball. You'll never see a spinning ball, because it's
Speaker 1: not in you. It's not your man. You can never
Speaker 1: imagine it. You would ask anyone that they'll do. Put
Speaker 1: yourself in that imagination state. What do you see? Fly
Speaker 1: up into the sky? What do you see? Just see flat? Yep,
Speaker 1: because that's what we're living in. A few years ago,
Speaker 1: I was killing a friend. It's just, you know what.
Speaker 1: I woke up one morning and I'm looking at myself
Speaker 1: in the mirror and I look at my eyes and
Speaker 1: I got blue eyes, like it's clear, and I'm looking
Speaker 1: into my eyes and like the truth is in our eyes.
Speaker 1: The truth is in our eyes. And I was sharing
Speaker 1: with people. Is from some friends of mine that are
Speaker 1: open to this conversation. I said, you know what, it's
Speaker 1: right there in our eyes. We've got the whole thing
Speaker 1: in our eyes. We've got the pupil which is the
Speaker 1: black rock the center, and then you've got the rest.
Speaker 1: Look at it. And for the past two years you're
Speaker 1: seeing this type of these type of memes on social media,
Speaker 1: the eyes and the flat Earth. Have you ever seen
Speaker 1: these memes?
Speaker 4: I sure have. Yeah, the the actual whatever exterior part
Speaker 4: of the eye looks like the firmament.
Speaker 1: Yep, yep, it's right there in your eyes, and it's
Speaker 1: so obvious.
Speaker 4: And I already have a link. I'll put it in
Speaker 4: the show notes so people can check it out if
Speaker 4: they haven't seen it before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you see them, you know. He compared to a
Speaker 1: biblical cosmology of how you know, you see the dome
Speaker 1: and you see the earth, and you see the underworld
Speaker 1: or the show, and you know it just it's just
Speaker 1: it's just right there, all of creation, the clears of magnificence.
Speaker 1: And I forget how the verse goes, but all of
Speaker 1: creation clears him.
Speaker 4: His fingerprint is on everything, Isn't it funny?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 4: The firmament over the eyeball.
Speaker 1: It's crazy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all of these things us. And there's also memes
Speaker 4: out there that show many pieces of fruit and vegetables
Speaker 4: that look like our internal organs. I don't know if
Speaker 4: you've seen that before, Like walnuts are good for the brain,
Speaker 4: and they look like a brain, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yes, they're not wonderful. I think it's so exciting that
Speaker 1: we could see these things. Yeah, and so you know,
Speaker 1: and when we're just so excited, I just want everyone
Speaker 1: to know these troops. You know. It's it's yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like I'm saying, we're created, and he's a creator and
Speaker 1: and and he just he just gives us so much
Speaker 1: to be joyful for, you know, his joy completes us.
Speaker 1: And and to know that all this shall pass. God
Speaker 1: is above all. There's nothing opposite God. The enemy has
Speaker 1: no old on us. And the best is you have
Speaker 1: to come. You know. I know there's troubles in this world.
Speaker 1: I have compassion towards the suffering that people are are living.
Speaker 1: But I believe that suffering leads to Christ. I believe
Speaker 1: that suffering will lead that heart to cry out to God.
Speaker 1: And I think in Ottawa or in Canada, you talked
Speaker 1: about this before. The made service that they offer for
Speaker 1: people is another another trick of the devil that's killed
Speaker 1: people before their time. So they don't suffer, so that
Speaker 1: way they don't cry out to God, so that way
Speaker 1: they're in eternal jeopardy.
Speaker 4: I'm really you know what I refer to you, Yeah,
Speaker 4: thought about I'm so glad you brought that up, because yeah,
Speaker 4: I brought it up on my fact Hunter podcast three
Speaker 4: weeks ago because it just passed in Delaware last month,
Speaker 4: and I got dozens of email, believe it or not,
Speaker 4: mostly from Canada, a few from the States, and a
Speaker 4: few from Europe where that one and again I'm gonna
Speaker 4: keep it very vague because these were very personal messages.
Speaker 4: But this young lady's father was told he had like
Speaker 4: three months to live, and they offered him the pills
Speaker 4: and he ended up living six years. And these are
Speaker 4: the stories that you don't hear because evil doesn't come
Speaker 4: out as a big, eldly monster. It always comes under
Speaker 4: the guise of good and compassionate. And you know, now,
Speaker 4: as I mentioned, made this assisted suicide program in Canada
Speaker 4: is like the fifth leading cause of death in Canada.
Speaker 4: It is it is, it is.
Speaker 1: It is a demonic ritual, and it's it's it's a good.
Speaker 1: A childod friend of mine packed away forty eight years
Speaker 1: old and I went to a wake and I found
Speaker 1: out of the way that he used the service. I'm
Speaker 1: like this, If I would have known that, I would
Speaker 1: not have have went. But just the atmosphere, not wake,
Speaker 1: but so so inhumane. I cannot explain to you, George,
Speaker 1: what I felt in that place. There was no mourning.
Speaker 1: There was no mourning. There's nobody crying. This man's forty
Speaker 1: eight years old, nobody. It is just so so in
Speaker 1: you mean, no, there's no it's it's just uh. We
Speaker 1: all have struggles, and the struggles make you stronger, and
Speaker 1: that struggle brings you to that to that call for help.
Speaker 1: And these these ones are manipulating and believing they're doing
Speaker 1: something good. You've got them may professor telling you to
Speaker 1: do this. And of course some people will believe that
Speaker 1: they're vulnerable, they're weak, they're desperad and they'll take that pill.
Speaker 1: With our being prepared for eternity, this life is just
Speaker 1: but a vapor and eternity will be for a long time.
Speaker 1: We don't know all the details. And God is nurseful. Well,
Speaker 1: we've all had struggles on people, financial struggles, and that's
Speaker 1: financial struggles leads you to that call for help. Some
Speaker 1: people's health issues and it will lead you to that
Speaker 1: call for help. Some people it's relationship struggles, and it
Speaker 1: will call you the help. You'll may not call to
Speaker 1: God calling to me.
Speaker 4: You know that's right, amen. And the struggle is what
Speaker 4: brings so many people to God. And it was the
Speaker 4: same for me. Because you think about it, like they say,
Speaker 4: there's no atheists in foxholes and prisons. But take that
Speaker 4: a little deeper. What does that mean. It means people
Speaker 4: when they're comfortable may not look for God in the
Speaker 4: same way if people who are desperate will. Right. I'm
Speaker 4: reading John MacArthur's book right now, Can God Bless America?
Speaker 4: And he puts it very bluntly that in many cases
Speaker 4: we only look to God during times of trouble, and
Speaker 4: that you know we we should. You know our mission
Speaker 4: is twofold again. It's to share the Gospel and create disciples,
Speaker 4: whether times are good or times are bad. But we
Speaker 4: know through the Bible that there's going to be difficult
Speaker 4: times and if you follow Christ, you're going to be persecuted.
Speaker 4: So my my thing, what I post to people now
Speaker 4: is if you're too comfortable, are you really pushing the
Speaker 4: Gospel of Jesus because you have this knowledge, whether it's
Speaker 4: flat earth whether it's vaccines, whether it's again, Jesus, if
Speaker 4: you're not sharing this knowledge, what are we doing?
Speaker 1: Hundred persent and and and keep in mind when I'm
Speaker 1: going back to the I'll go back to that made
Speaker 1: that story. Is that is that these people are using
Speaker 1: the maser that made the main option. But they don't
Speaker 1: know Jesus. You know, they don't know the truth. And
Speaker 1: that's the dangerous right for you and I. We are stilled.
Speaker 1: Were set up. We we we we have come to
Speaker 1: the family and our job are are you know, the
Speaker 1: disciples ask Jesus what do What's the work of God?
Speaker 1: And Jesus says, it's to believe on the one that
Speaker 1: he said. We we our job is to believe on
Speaker 1: the one he said. So we go out there believing
Speaker 1: on the one that he sent. And it's to share
Speaker 1: that knowledge and to share that truth and share our testimony,
Speaker 1: to share these these these But it's the ones that
Speaker 1: are using this service, this this and I shouldn't even
Speaker 1: say that word service. I apologize to that, but this
Speaker 1: this thing and they don't know Christ. So they're going
Speaker 1: to take the pill thinking because the guys is a doctor,
Speaker 1: trusting the doctor and they're doing this without knowing the truth.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, absolutely, And I can assure
Speaker 4: you it is a very long, detailed checklist saying that
Speaker 4: before you take those pills, you have to there's questionnaire
Speaker 4: right and you have to click it twice. Nobody has
Speaker 4: talked you into this. You're doing this under your free will. Uh,
Speaker 4: you have that you know your illness is irreparable. But
Speaker 4: nowhere on that questionnaire does it ask do you know
Speaker 4: Jesus Christ. I can assure you that exactly.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's a sellout. It's to set out
Speaker 1: to you know, I'm going to sell my soul to
Speaker 1: It is deception beyond measure, you know. And yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's I want to share my experience with that
Speaker 1: with you, George, because I know you've talked about it
Speaker 1: on your other podcast and and it is nothing you know,
Speaker 1: there's nothing good about it, and it's it is just
Speaker 1: pure evil. Yeah, And this is the world we're living in. It.
Speaker 1: I cannot imagine another generation under this, this government, under
Speaker 1: this these world leaders. I just cannot imagine. So this
Speaker 1: is why I'm so convinced that we living in that time.
Speaker 1: According to Matthew twenty four and increase of knowledge we're
Speaker 1: seeing in people and unusual suspect suspecting people coming to
Speaker 1: know Christ, people coming to know the flat Earth. I
Speaker 1: don't even like to use the label of flat earth.
Speaker 1: I don't believe that we use that label for each other.
Speaker 1: I think this is the world that created this flat
Speaker 1: earth society, so we're identifyed with that that I think.
Speaker 1: I like when you talk about true Earth.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. Yeah, at some point we're going to
Speaker 4: have to Yeah, at some point as a group, I
Speaker 4: think we do need to wholesale walk away from the
Speaker 4: term flat earth. Because if you go to again, if
Speaker 4: you approach somebody to Walmart parking lot and say, hey,
Speaker 4: what are your thoughts on flat Earth? You're going to
Speaker 4: get an eye roll out of ninety percent of the
Speaker 4: people and they're going to walk away. However, if you
Speaker 4: said to them, what are your thoughts on true Earth,
Speaker 4: and you know exactly what, ninety percent are going to say, well,
Speaker 4: what's that? And then if you explain it without even
Speaker 4: using the words flat earth, you're going to get more
Speaker 4: of a They're going to be more receptive than if
Speaker 4: you just said, hey, you know the flat Earth, because
Speaker 4: that is how they're programmed. That's how their program to
Speaker 4: react when they hear those two words. And if you
Speaker 4: don't believe in spells right or spelling, say certain words
Speaker 4: to people like flat earth and see how they react.
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah they didn't. It's quite a reaction, I tell you.
Speaker 1: Going back to we had we had those astronauts or
Speaker 1: not astronauts that were stuck in space for like nine months. Yeah,
Speaker 1: remember absolutely, and look at this deception you've got. I
Speaker 1: think the man was called his name was Butch something
Speaker 1: was it Butch?
Speaker 4: I believe, so I'll have to double check.
Speaker 1: So so don't you find that interesting? Its first message
Speaker 1: when he came back to Earth was preaching the Gospel
Speaker 1: of Jesus Christ's nobody mentioned that, Yeah, there's gonna be
Speaker 1: there's the afternaut talking about Christ when he came back.
Speaker 1: He was preaching the gospel, saying that yeah, yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a there's gonna be a video out there that he
Speaker 1: when he on his return, him and and the woman
Speaker 1: he is. One of his first interviews with him proclaiming
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ in preaching the gospel and saying how how
Speaker 1: he was blessed to be able to see his creation
Speaker 1: from from outer space and seeing yeah, you we searched
Speaker 1: that video. Uh, when he came back, he's preaching the gospel.
Speaker 1: And when I was watching it, I'm like, wow, you
Speaker 1: you never saw that.
Speaker 4: I I think I've seen him on interviews, one or
Speaker 4: two interviews, but I don't watch TV, and I know that.
Speaker 4: You know what I always found interesting? Do you know
Speaker 4: how long they were stuck in space?
Speaker 1: For? Nine months? Eleven days?
Speaker 4: It was nine months. I don't know if it was
Speaker 4: nine to eleven, but it was definitely nine months. And
Speaker 4: I just found that that they always mock you know
Speaker 4: the term for birth, nine months and then you know
Speaker 4: they were birth to return home from their star liner spacecraft. Yes,
Speaker 4: I always find things that are a mockery. And again,
Speaker 4: on this world stage, we have good guys and bad guys.
Speaker 4: They if we were just fed nothing but bad guys,
Speaker 4: we would eventually revolt. So that's why they feed us
Speaker 4: good guys and bad guys. And again, I don't know.
Speaker 4: Maybe this guy again Iss is not traveling seventeen thousand,
Speaker 4: five hundred miles an hour. Is again I don't know.
Speaker 4: And that's I got a lot of emails about that guy.
Speaker 4: So I got a lot of emails about that, which
Speaker 4: William's guy. They say, now, how can you how can
Speaker 4: you say they're at this flight? This guy is a
Speaker 4: professing Christian. I said, I don't know the man. I'm
Speaker 4: not saying I know his heart, but I don't know
Speaker 4: the man. What am I supposed to say?
Speaker 1: So the reason why I brought him up is that
Speaker 1: you've got a man. Obviously, if you're doing all this
Speaker 1: stuff underwater somewhere in the States, and then you're pretending
Speaker 1: that you're in outer space, and then you come back
Speaker 1: and one of the first messages is proclaiming Jesus Christ,
Speaker 1: how does that deceive the masters? How does that deceive
Speaker 1: the massive and defense where yeah, like Paul would say,
Speaker 1: as long as Jesus it's preached, which is great, he's preaching,
Speaker 1: but it's it's still a half truth because now, because
Speaker 1: how can I say this is is that people waking
Speaker 1: up to that flat Earth is so it's rapid, it's
Speaker 1: it's fast, and this is the they need to protect
Speaker 1: this line and hence the reason why I believe Ellen
Speaker 1: Musk is in the skin of things to be the whistleblower.
Speaker 1: I mean, we started We're starting to see that the
Speaker 1: Space space X is their backup to expose NASA if
Speaker 1: ever they need to, because Space Fix never never, never
Speaker 1: went out a stray. Yet I think they're always they're always,
Speaker 1: they're always, they're always breaking down before it hits the
Speaker 1: firmament or hits the firmament. Yeah, and I'll tell you
Speaker 1: some of them into play to be a whistle blower
Speaker 1: to all that stuff.
Speaker 4: Some of his videos are pretty sketchy, very.
Speaker 1: Sketchy, and you use in the past week, all we
Speaker 1: see here in Canada is is to showed between Musk
Speaker 1: and Trump. It's already started the division after what but
Speaker 1: we know that it's all planned.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess today they shook hands and then they're
Speaker 4: they're making up. Elon came out this morning and said,
Speaker 4: I may have I regret the things that I said
Speaker 4: last week. So drama, But the question is what were
Speaker 4: they trying to take people's attention from.
Speaker 5: There's always meaning to these actions. There's a distraction, yes,
Speaker 5: always hm. Oh, but he's rather he's rather hold up
Speaker 5: on It's just I suppose nobody has ever talked about
Speaker 5: the TV series called Lost l O S T.
Speaker 4: I think one.
Speaker 1: Person mentioned it, and and and and I've watched that,
Speaker 1: like I'm I don't watch you, I don't hate I
Speaker 1: don't even have TV service here. I stopped watching TV
Speaker 1: all completely. But when I did watch TV, I was
Speaker 1: very selective. But Lost was a great one. Lost was
Speaker 1: the hidden messages and what the island is all about.
Speaker 1: I believe they're exposing North Pole and they were exposing
Speaker 1: you know, flat Earth also, and there's so many subliminal
Speaker 1: messaging about the truth in that TV series. There's even
Speaker 1: a ship in one of the episodes, they find this
Speaker 1: old record, this ship wreckage, and it was called black Lock.
Speaker 1: Really is that a coincident? Yep? Called black Rock? And
Speaker 1: it's an island that you cannot get to. It's an
Speaker 1: island that was just it's just that it can't get
Speaker 1: off and that's a special way to get there. And
Speaker 1: we talked about Antarcta all the time, but we never
Speaker 1: talked about We seldom talk about the Arctic Circle. What's
Speaker 1: up there? M hm. You know, you start looking at
Speaker 1: Old Matt and you're seeing, you know, is there where
Speaker 1: where the guard and if Heaton is and all that stuff,
Speaker 1: and there's there's something there on this island. This lost
Speaker 1: island that they find, there's people living on there. They
Speaker 1: seemed to not die, they seem to have been there forever.
Speaker 1: And there's a polar bear. There's all these themes that
Speaker 1: it's just so mysterious and so good, and there's somebody
Speaker 1: is from the truth community or think that the that
Speaker 1: that know that the Earth is flat is it is
Speaker 1: a flat Earth message I just saw. I just there
Speaker 1: have to find good TV shows because all that took
Speaker 1: the work program, you right, So this one was an
Speaker 1: interesting one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll have to go back and check that one
Speaker 4: out for sure.
Speaker 1: It's like the movie The Matrix or there's a few
Speaker 1: other ones. And I like to the Game with Michael Douglas.
Speaker 1: That was, Yeah, that was a good one, The Game,
Speaker 1: The Devil's Advocate. I feel in the late nineties there
Speaker 1: was a lot of that type of movies. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: that we're talking about in the Spiritual Awakening or something.
Speaker 4: I think a lot of that was due was their
Speaker 4: disclosure before nine to eleven. That's how they looked at it.
Speaker 4: Even as late as April that that that one TV
Speaker 4: show on Fox that they pulled where that that plane
Speaker 4: was heading into that tower, that office tower, that aired
Speaker 4: in April of two thousand and one, and then also
Speaker 4: in April two thousand and one. You don't what movie
Speaker 4: premiered in the United States? Which one Pearl Harbor? Oh wow, okay,
Speaker 4: the one with Ben Fleck and everything.
Speaker 1: Yes, I remember that one.
Speaker 4: Yes, So I think a lot of that was his
Speaker 4: disclosure and those who had the the veils removed from
Speaker 4: their eyes could see. And I do think we are
Speaker 4: we're approaching another type of event like that as well,
Speaker 4: I really do. It came out May twenty fifth, two
Speaker 4: thousand and one.
Speaker 1: Actually it's up to it's it's tough not to see
Speaker 1: these things, and and and then it's just so easy
Speaker 1: to see through it. And even though you don't see
Speaker 1: it all at the same time, it will come. Sometimes
Speaker 1: it won't be that same day, maybe it'll be a week,
Speaker 1: maybe six months later, but it will connect yet again,
Speaker 1: I think, like, for example, the two towers, they were
Speaker 1: built to come down, the actually built from design to
Speaker 1: come down this one hundred and ten fours right, so
Speaker 1: you got your eleven there, And there's one website that
Speaker 1: says that the height of them was one three five
Speaker 1: zero one three hundred and fifty feet tall. That's you
Speaker 1: got your nine in there, nine and then there's one
Speaker 1: hundred and ten stories. Yep, I've seen those towers that
Speaker 1: I've got pictures right by them. Because I'm a big
Speaker 1: I love New York City, right, So I used to
Speaker 1: travel there in my late years and then in my
Speaker 1: before I turned twenty with school and go there every
Speaker 1: Easter weekend. Another thing about the Devil's a little season.
Speaker 1: What makes I think someone it makes sense. But there's
Speaker 1: one thing I know in the documentary Lost History of
Speaker 1: Flat Earth. When you start you can talk about this
Speaker 1: documentary before it's like a five hour documentary. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a part of there in there that it starts talking
Speaker 1: putting the focus on the buildings. And there's a shot
Speaker 1: of the Parliament Hill here in Ottawa in that documentary
Speaker 1: in that the documentary, and I lived like ten minutes
Speaker 1: from from from Parliament Hill, so I'm there all the time.
Speaker 1: And I've been starting to observe the buildings and really
Speaker 1: observe the detail. And one thing that makes them skeptical
Speaker 1: of that teaching is if this was built during the
Speaker 1: reign or Christ for a thousand years, I don't think
Speaker 1: there would be so much statues there's so many graven
Speaker 1: images in the architecture. There's so many there. There's like
Speaker 1: goblins and there's lizards. Why is there lizards in there?
Speaker 1: You take a look at the detailed architecture of the
Speaker 1: Parliament Hill and you'll see and then and you start
Speaker 1: looking at the buildings and you're seeing all these images
Speaker 1: you symbol of and it's built right into it. This
Speaker 1: is I don't think there's things that we're at and
Speaker 1: after that's where I'm a bit suspicious about where but
Speaker 1: season we're in? Does that make sense? You know?
Speaker 4: I don't think, Yeah, it makes perfect sense.
Speaker 1: Issue God had an issue with with with with with images,
Speaker 1: and he had an issue with there's so many statues.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. I always found statues weird, Like I would
Speaker 4: never want a statue no matter what I did. Uh,
Speaker 4: you know, if I was an athlete that broke all
Speaker 4: kinds of around, I would never want a statue. I
Speaker 4: always found that odd to look up at a remnant
Speaker 4: of something or someone, because you know, we were told in
Speaker 4: the Bible that's something we shouldn't do anyway, right.
Speaker 1: Exactly, It's just so the deception, the deception we're living
Speaker 1: in now. Yeah, it could make sense. Yeah, we could
Speaker 1: have been deceived and all this stuff about where we're
Speaker 1: at in our timeline. But their big argument is about
Speaker 1: the architecture. And I look at the architecture, how great
Speaker 1: it was. Yes, you start looking at the detail, there's
Speaker 1: so much, so much images, so much imagery, so many
Speaker 1: statue and odd statue of white lizards, white snakes. Yeah.
Speaker 4: My biggest question is why is you know, like the
Speaker 4: symbol for healthcare a snake wrapped around a staff?
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly? What a what a flat earth too? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Or that that's the U.
Speaker 4: N right, that's the UN Yeah. And then there's if
Speaker 4: you look on the on map, there's thirty three sections
Speaker 4: with on that map. And by the way, one thing
Speaker 4: I mentioned earlier that that movie Pearl Harbor came out
Speaker 4: May twenty fifth, two thousand and one. If you count
Speaker 4: the days from May twenty fifth, two thousand and one
Speaker 4: to nine eleven, two thousand and one, it is one
Speaker 4: hundred and ten days, and there were one hundred and
Speaker 4: ten stories. I mean, you just can't make this stuff up.
Speaker 4: You had Flight eleven.
Speaker 1: You just can't. You just can't it. It's just it's amazing. Yep,
Speaker 1: it's amazing and.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're down to our last ten or fifteen minutes.
Speaker 4: Could we jump into your your your sick silver bullets. Obviously,
Speaker 4: you know, the Bible and the Word of God had
Speaker 4: a lot of you know, profound knowledge on you. But
Speaker 4: looking at the other things as well, if you could include.
Speaker 1: Them, absolutely, I think your your own self, your own instinct,
Speaker 1: your own gut. You know, your observation, nobody everybody sees it.
Speaker 1: And and and the way you observe things, you know,
Speaker 1: you you go on the highest mountain, or you go
Speaker 1: onto a plane ride or a hot air balloon ride
Speaker 1: or anywhere when there's elevation and you look out on
Speaker 1: the beach, you take a look. You just look. It's
Speaker 1: just there. Nothing gives you any type of evidence that
Speaker 1: we're on the ball, just your own observation. And and
Speaker 1: and that's what I've done. You know, I would go
Speaker 1: to the Pacific Ocean, look on the beach and looking
Speaker 1: at the ocean, or in the plane, or on mountains,
Speaker 1: and the end is mountains, looking at the at the
Speaker 1: views and there's no evidence of any anything tilting, anything curving,
Speaker 1: and anything moving. And how does gravity work? And then
Speaker 1: you start thinking about gravity, how does it work. Where's
Speaker 1: our mechanism inside of us? How does gravity know what
Speaker 1: to gravitate and what not to gravitate? You know, where's
Speaker 1: that mechanism inside of us? There's nothing. How do we
Speaker 1: connect to the gravity of machine? You know, a bird
Speaker 1: could fly, a plane could fly. But it just makes
Speaker 1: no sense. The math don't work if gravity works. If
Speaker 1: you know, I would ask this question, you know, how
Speaker 1: does gravity work? So it's is it in the earth.
Speaker 1: It's like in the soil. Where where does it come from?
Speaker 1: So it's a kind of a trick question I ask people.
Speaker 1: And so technically, if it's in the earth, I should
Speaker 1: be able to and it connects me to the earth,
Speaker 1: I should be able to walk up close. No problem,
Speaker 1: you mean what I'm.
Speaker 4: Saying, Absolutely I do. Yep.
Speaker 1: So when you start asking these critical questions they sound filly,
Speaker 1: but the other side of it, it makes no sense
Speaker 1: because they if like asking somebody that's not telling you
Speaker 1: the truth a question after the question, they don't anticipate
Speaker 1: the second or third question. They don't prepare themselves. And
Speaker 1: this world deception has caught us, perhaps lie most people.
Speaker 1: One of the biggest things before I came to Christ,
Speaker 1: one of my fails. Was I was capable of bluffing
Speaker 1: people and working the career of sales. It's part of
Speaker 1: it's part of the culture.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 1: And when and I came to Christ and one of
Speaker 1: the things that God cleaned up in me is is
Speaker 1: that part of me? It is you know what, speak
Speaker 1: the truth and search for it. If you don't know
Speaker 1: the truth, don't say anything, don't wish you wash it,
Speaker 1: don't wing it. I want to assume it. You know,
Speaker 1: it's it's not perfect all the time, because sweet, but
Speaker 1: just don't. That's why I have such a great memory.
Speaker 1: I remember things from years ago, people have served in
Speaker 1: the past, or people I have sold to in the past,
Speaker 1: like thirty years. I remember their names, or whether he
Speaker 1: did for a living and something. It's amazing. Why is
Speaker 1: it because I strive to did not lie. I don't
Speaker 1: need to remember stuff because it's the truth. But truth
Speaker 1: is the truth. Great point and forgiveness, also repentance. But
Speaker 1: silver bullets, you know, it's the sixth of them. There's
Speaker 1: so many. You're the son you know, doesn't doesn't on hearth,
Speaker 1: it doesn't shine out of space, but shin long earth.
Speaker 1: It's a fireball, and fire does not exist without oxygen?
Speaker 1: And what else? What else? There's so many Well, there's
Speaker 1: the Bible, the Word of God, Genesis chapter one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just the creation story itself does not align with
Speaker 4: what we're told. And by the way, I should mention
Speaker 4: it if if somebody wants to have fun, go to
Speaker 4: your favorite AI whether you use Chat, GPT or groc
Speaker 4: on Twitter, and ask how does the Earth continuously spin
Speaker 4: at the same speed? And then ask it, ask it
Speaker 4: how did the Earth start spinning? When did it start spinning?
Speaker 4: And then you can realize how silly this is. I've
Speaker 4: done that within the last week and it was quite
Speaker 4: an interesting conversation that just the science is that that
Speaker 4: is wrapped into people. When you actually step back and
Speaker 4: look at these stories about it's it began spinning like
Speaker 4: four and a half billion years ago due to the
Speaker 4: conservation of you. You'll see the words angular momentum h
Speaker 4: repeated over and over and over.
Speaker 1: You're you're a baseball fan, there, Georgian and er you
Speaker 1: used to go see the ball games.
Speaker 4: Yeah, up until this year, I've usually gone at least
Speaker 4: once a year. Like I said, my I always say
Speaker 4: my trip into Normyland but but I haven't gone this year.
Speaker 4: I planned to get down to an Orioles game sometime
Speaker 4: this year, but I just don't especially now I don't
Speaker 4: have the time to follow. But yeah, I've been a
Speaker 4: longtime baseball fan. Sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So so if a pitcher has a ball, he's
Speaker 1: going to pitch the ball and there's a speck of
Speaker 1: dirt on it, what does he do? He changes the
Speaker 1: ball right, because that speck of dirt might create a
Speaker 1: a I'll balanced the ball right.
Speaker 4: That's right, or interfered with this script or.
Speaker 1: There's more weight on one side, and so how do
Speaker 1: we attest that? How how do we balance this ball?
Speaker 1: Like what do we communicate with China to find out?
Speaker 1: You know, Okay, guys, we've got too many buildings on
Speaker 1: this side of the ball, so we've got to control
Speaker 1: our building. We're building too many there's too many people
Speaker 1: on this side and that side that the weight doesn't
Speaker 1: balance for the spin of the earth. We're going to
Speaker 1: start wobbling soon.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I've been on flights. Yeah, I've been on flights
Speaker 4: where they make people change from one side to the
Speaker 4: other because of balance, And I know that's not exactly
Speaker 4: you know, a good comparative to you know, whatever the
Speaker 4: size of the Earth is. But that that's a good
Speaker 4: point that really hasn't been made before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that we're not we're building high rises and crazy,
Speaker 1: we're not thinking considering the weight right management.
Speaker 4: Well, how about something like yeah, how abou Hiroshima? How
Speaker 4: about it explosive? An explosion with that much impact and
Speaker 4: force if it changed the trajectory as simple of something
Speaker 4: that was hurtling four hundred thousand miles an hour spinning
Speaker 4: at one thousand miles an hour wouldn't have some type
Speaker 4: of impact on its rotation and spinning and just blow
Speaker 4: everything out of whack.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, oh cravy. And another another syllability is just the
Speaker 1: lack of footage, lack of video, Like I want to
Speaker 1: see that shot from from outer space zooming in into
Speaker 1: you know, South America or touch throughout or even us.
Speaker 1: We're walking fight waves according to the ball where I'm
Speaker 1: not on top, which fight is up burst of ale
Speaker 1: on the ball, And I want to fee those pictures.
Speaker 1: I want to see that dashcam on that shuttle going
Speaker 1: up and crossing the van hell and belt. I want
Speaker 1: to fee that. And if you follow the money, everything
Speaker 1: man does is to profit. We want to make a profit.
Speaker 1: You go to Nagara Falls. We did nothing to these falls.
Speaker 1: These falls are created by God. And then what we
Speaker 1: do We have this little village of to consume. We
Speaker 1: have these these restaurants, these these entertainment venues and stuff
Speaker 1: like that to bring the people there. It's like we
Speaker 1: do in Las Vegas with the Grand Canyon and all
Speaker 1: that stuff. Don't you think that people would not pay
Speaker 1: a dollar or two to look into those microsot they
Speaker 1: these telescopes to see the sun. Absolutely I would pay.
Speaker 1: I would pay two hundred dollars. I spend one hundred
Speaker 1: dollars to go on top of the rock in Manhattan.
Speaker 1: In Manhattan, trust me, I would spend maybe five hundred
Speaker 1: dollars to look in one of those telescopes to see,
Speaker 1: you know, the Milky Way and to see the Sun
Speaker 1: in its glory. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, don't agree more.
Speaker 1: It's great. And and you know what if if if
Speaker 1: the Earth is a ball, it's an easy proof, you know.
Speaker 1: Instead that's instead of putting pointing that telescope up in
Speaker 1: the sky, just go thighways across the ocean. If we
Speaker 1: see Africa it's flat. If we can't see nothing, that
Speaker 1: means it's the ball. Let's let's do that. If I
Speaker 1: would be a glober, I would I would start a mottlement,
Speaker 1: petitioning NATA to show us this proof. Wait forget us.
Speaker 1: We know the truth. We know it's not a ball.
Speaker 1: But if you're convinced that you're a glober, the ball
Speaker 1: is spinning and we're going through outer space, I would
Speaker 1: petition to give us more. That's would petition. I would
Speaker 1: petition for them. We're spending seventy million dollars per month,
Speaker 1: per day, I think billion dollars per day, seven billion
Speaker 1: dollars per day.
Speaker 4: It's seventy million dollars every single day.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I need we need to audit we we
Speaker 1: we need the proof. We need more. We need more
Speaker 1: than just somebody teach showing us in outer space how
Speaker 1: to paste works.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's such a great point. Some of the things
Speaker 4: they show us, you know, we hear of all these
Speaker 4: are shattering things that they're doing up there. But anytime
Speaker 4: there's a camera on them, they just show their hair
Speaker 4: sticking up in the air and they're throwing a ball
Speaker 4: and then running to the other side and catching it
Speaker 4: and silly things like that. It's just, you know, you've
Speaker 4: made a lot of great points today and some things
Speaker 4: that we should certainly think about and take to the
Speaker 4: next level. And again, as you know, we know our
Speaker 4: government isn't very responsible fiscally. But by the way, that
Speaker 4: seventy million dollars a day is just a NASA that
Speaker 4: doesn't include the military contracts that are given to Tesla
Speaker 4: and things of that nature or SpaceX, I should say, so,
Speaker 4: you know, we should demand transparency. But again, people are
Speaker 4: more concerned about like we were talking about these arguments
Speaker 4: with Elon and Trump, than they are about getting to
Speaker 4: the bottom of the truth. And sometimes again our pride
Speaker 4: gets in the way and we don't want to look
Speaker 4: at the evidence unless it supports our current beliefs because
Speaker 4: we never like to admit that we're wrong. And I
Speaker 4: think going back to what you were saying about trying
Speaker 4: to get people to listen to our evidence is I
Speaker 4: just don't think people understand how important and the significance
Speaker 4: of these things truly are. Like our audience does.
Speaker 1: Absolutely wonderful, Georgie. It was a great privilege to be
Speaker 1: on the show. Like I'm saying, you cannot understand how
Speaker 1: appreciative I am, and I'm sure most all your listeners
Speaker 1: are of what you're doing. I think it's a gift,
Speaker 1: and I think it's it's needed because there's not too
Speaker 1: many people I know in that feel this way or
Speaker 1: I think this way, or know these truths. And to
Speaker 1: be able to come together this way, God is just
Speaker 1: working things out so well. And to be able to
Speaker 1: connect through your platform, George, to be able to hear
Speaker 1: other stories and to hear other journeys to this truth
Speaker 1: and to the truth of Jesus, and to the truth
Speaker 1: of the earth, and to the other truths that were
Speaker 1: where we're experience experiencing right now. We could talk about
Speaker 1: this all week. You know, there's just so much and
Speaker 1: I thank you so much for your service, and thank
Speaker 1: you so much for for what you're doing.
Speaker 4: And thank you so much. And as we usually give
Speaker 4: you the last word, but that was you pretty much
Speaker 4: summed everything up perfectly. And I want to thank you
Speaker 4: for a sharing your personal experience over the last whatever
Speaker 4: twenty seven years. What a transformation, and b you brought
Speaker 4: up a lot of interesting information that really hasn't been
Speaker 4: brought up over the last two hundred and fifteen or
Speaker 4: twenty episodes, So thank you for your sincerity. And if
Speaker 4: there's anything you wanted to add before we close now
Speaker 4: would be a great time.
Speaker 1: Well, and I think that it keep on looking, everyone,
Speaker 1: keep on looking, and keep on trusting. Jesus Christ and
Speaker 1: Nazareth is the way to truth and the life, and
Speaker 1: no one comes to the Father except through him. This
Speaker 1: too shall pass, and our redemption is nice, and you
Speaker 1: know it's coming to I truly feel, truly, truly sense
Speaker 1: that we're coming to a place where we shall see
Speaker 1: as glorious we shall see if glorious coming.
Speaker 4: Amen, And what a fitting way to end this podcast.
Speaker 4: And Joseph again, thank you so much for your time,
Speaker 4: and to all the listeners, thank you so much for
Speaker 4: your continued support and listening to the podcast. And please
Speaker 4: do share this with others and remind them to started
Speaker 4: episode number one, because I think it's important that they
Speaker 4: understand why the lie and then make their way forward
Speaker 4: and to understand and and then to you know, share
Speaker 4: the amazing testimony of two hundred people from around the
Speaker 4: world and understand that they are not alone in their beliefs.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: For Joseph, I'm George, God bless each and every one
Speaker 4: of you. Keep your head on a swivel. And until
Speaker 4: we meet again, my friends, we will see.
Speaker 6: I know it's pain, struggle. I know you've had spain.
Speaker 6: I know you feel tied, hell down all the way. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I know you feeling.
Speaker 3: Are you smile? Ain't the same?
Speaker 1: I saw you way go from you.
Speaker 3: I feel like you've lost your way. Don't give it. No,
Speaker 3: don't give it. Never is home. Don't let call the
Speaker 3: primise it ain't.
Speaker 6: Done yet, he's got I'm plad what it's a way
Speaker 6: God up?
Speaker 3: May me come?
Speaker 4: Why right?
Speaker 6: Or I can see the street beside you. Childs are
Speaker 6: putting up the five. Oh, you're stronger than a thing.
Speaker 3: You are. Yeah, you're gonna be all right. You're accepting
Speaker 3: a dead found beautiful. You're shoving ride.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're living, breathing, moveing. You can hold your head
Speaker 6: a pie. Don't give up.
Speaker 3: No, don't give in. Never loss home.
Speaker 7: Don't let gone on the primis me, ain't done and
Speaker 7: it's gone up.
Speaker 3: Letting on wave down the God of maybe come, don't
Speaker 3: give up. No, don't give in. You never lose home.
Speaker 3: Don't let go on the.
Speaker 7: Promise it ain't gonfe it's worth living in?
Speaker 3: What's a way down? The god of baby Colt?
Speaker 7: Why's a pray down?
Speaker 3: God steam cold? Oh yeah, what's a pray down?
Speaker 7: The god of baby call? Oh yeah, got steam called?
Speaker 3: Oh, don't give up? No, don't give in? Never's home?
Speaker 3: Do they go on the primise? I mean it ain't done?
Speaker 6: Yes, got a playing waits and god of if it
Speaker 6: colls and don't give up?
Speaker 1: No dog giving but never this hold.
Speaker 3: Don't let go of the crowds getting done. Lover is
Speaker 3: worth living? Wats do? God of every coors Ah, the
Speaker 3: god of.
Speaker 7: Need cos.
Speaker 3: Whaits done? The god of any coach.
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Speaker 1: Just the facts, ma'am.