1
00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,200
Speaker 1: What's going on in the world of Google Athletics.

2
00:00:03,439 --> 00:00:06,639
Speaker 2: You're for players, coaches and experts on all the latest

3
00:00:06,639 --> 00:00:08,480
happenings with the Cougars.

4
00:00:09,919 --> 00:00:12,000
Speaker 1: Working back Cooper Sports. One of three nine nine even

5
00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:13,000
went to ESPN the Fan.

6
00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:13,720
Speaker 2: I mean we're.

7
00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,719
Speaker 1: Broadcasting Mr vanderwils Studios, Vandawel dot com. Get on a

8
00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:18,640
free Q and a no obligation to do with mass

9
00:00:18,679 --> 00:00:20,760
Q and a with our tax more Wealth Advisors certify

10
00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,480
financial planners. Nobody does it better than Vanderwealth and he's

11
00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,280
stopped for a little world of BA sports. What's going

12
00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,760
on with BYU Olympic Sports and more. It's gonna be

13
00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:31,519
brought to you by Game Day Men's Health game Dave

14
00:00:31,559 --> 00:00:35,079
Men's Health dot com. If you are a male looking

15
00:00:35,119 --> 00:00:37,039
to get back into the game, all I'm asking you

16
00:00:37,079 --> 00:00:39,960
to do is contact my crew over at Game Day

17
00:00:40,039 --> 00:00:42,600
Men's Health. You get fifty percent off their membership when

18
00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,399
you mentioned myself or ESPN the Fan. Testosterone health, weight

19
00:00:46,439 --> 00:00:50,759
loss therapy, ed threements, peptide and vitamin therapy therapy. Let's

20
00:00:50,759 --> 00:00:53,439
get on the right track. In twenty twenty six, go

21
00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,759
in and get your blood work done, find out where

22
00:00:55,759 --> 00:00:59,600
you're deficient get consulted with one of their practitioners so

23
00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,359
that you can and maybe, uh make your body feel

24
00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,200
like it used to. Right, Get back into the game,

25
00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,239
get back into the vibe, get the vigor and vim

26
00:01:09,719 --> 00:01:12,159
back into your step. And all you got to do

27
00:01:12,239 --> 00:01:13,640
is head on over to Game Day Men's Health and

28
00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,560
just start the process and get your blood work done.

29
00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,359
Let's welcome into the show. One of the owner operators

30
00:01:19,359 --> 00:01:20,959
of Game Day Men's Healthier. Love to watch that. Trump

31
00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,159
and Pleasure Grove. We got lean Allo on the line. Lane,

32
00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:23,719
how you live it?

33
00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,400
Speaker 2: Ben doing good man? Nice to talk to you.

34
00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:32,040
Speaker 1: Always a pleasure. Wanted to just real quick give a

35
00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,239
pitch to those men that are listening right now that

36
00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,439
are a little bit stagnant. They just haven't They know

37
00:01:37,519 --> 00:01:39,239
they need to go in and get their blood work done,

38
00:01:39,239 --> 00:01:40,280
but they haven't done it yet.

39
00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:46,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, more than anything, it's treat yourself well, right, like, uh,

40
00:01:46,599 --> 00:01:49,439
you only get one body read it well. If you

41
00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,200
want to look good, you want to feel good, you

42
00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:56,519
want to perform good, and that oftentimes requires some medical help.

43
00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:56,799
Speaker 1: Right.

44
00:01:57,719 --> 00:02:00,359
Speaker 2: We don't stay young forever, and we have a lot

45
00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,760
of different therapies, a little that allow you to fill

46
00:02:03,879 --> 00:02:06,799
your best and look your best and perform your best

47
00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,400
throughout any period of your life. And so you know,

48
00:02:10,439 --> 00:02:14,360
we're we're oftentimes known for UH for our hormone therapies,

49
00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,919
but we do peptide therapies. We do stuff with sexual illness,

50
00:02:18,159 --> 00:02:19,960
We do all sorts of suff we heck, we do

51
00:02:20,039 --> 00:02:22,599
stuff for hair loss. So if you're if you're not

52
00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,240
feeling yourself, if you're not looking yourself, come on in.

53
00:02:26,479 --> 00:02:27,479
We're we're here to help.

54
00:02:28,719 --> 00:02:31,439
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about some college football

55
00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,599
right now. Tampering. I don't know if you know there's

56
00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:40,080
but Dabo Swinny nuked Oh Miss after they blatantly tampered

57
00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:44,800
with their linebacker Luke Farelli. UH, Pete Golding and his

58
00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,680
staff kept on coming back to Luke and offering him

59
00:02:48,719 --> 00:02:52,199
more money upwards a million dollars. The Clemson coaching staff

60
00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,240
was well aware of it, UH and Swinney says in

61
00:02:55,319 --> 00:02:58,560
a press conference they have text messages of Old Miss

62
00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,840
head coach Pete Golden text and clem in linebacker Luke

63
00:03:00,879 --> 00:03:03,680
Farrelli while he was in class. I know your sign?

64
00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:04,879
What's the buyout?

65
00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:05,199
Speaker 2: Like?

66
00:03:05,479 --> 00:03:07,599
Speaker 1: Golding proceeded to send FORRELLI a picture of a one

67
00:03:07,599 --> 00:03:11,159
million dollar contract that for Farelli declined. Golding had Trinidad

68
00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,400
Chambliss and Jackson Dart reach out to Forrelli to push

69
00:03:13,479 --> 00:03:17,199
him to enter the portal. Farelli allegedly declined again. Golding

70
00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,280
and old Miss then up their offer to Frelli to

71
00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:23,360
two million dollars and stole him away from Clemson class list. Right,

72
00:03:23,439 --> 00:03:26,439
some people will say tampering, will say Dabba went off

73
00:03:26,479 --> 00:03:32,240
on it. This is technically legal. It's improper under NCAA

74
00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,120
bylaws and the things that have been set up here.

75
00:03:36,199 --> 00:03:40,080
And I don't know how the schools are going to

76
00:03:40,199 --> 00:03:44,520
hold the young men accountable for this, Forarelli for leaving.

77
00:03:44,719 --> 00:03:48,159
But give me your reaction to this crazy college football

78
00:03:48,479 --> 00:03:52,759
tampering college football transfer portal news.

79
00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,000
Speaker 2: I mean it's absolutely wild, right, I mean this kind

80
00:03:56,039 --> 00:03:59,560
of thing. You hear about some level of tampering with

81
00:03:59,639 --> 00:04:03,639
him professional sports, but not to this degree. You know,

82
00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,719
Like it's at this point, like these contracts that are

83
00:04:07,759 --> 00:04:12,080
being signed are absolutely meaningless, and these these college athletes

84
00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,960
have a lot more, a lot more under side. It's

85
00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,600
almost like the pendulum has swung far, far too much

86
00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,160
towards the athlete. And I and I'm the first one

87
00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,519
to say it, but like we need to take care

88
00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,160
of the college athletes, but there's something that has to

89
00:04:25,199 --> 00:04:28,000
be done here, Like it is the absolute wild West.

90
00:04:28,439 --> 00:04:31,360
And it shows like how how much or how little

91
00:04:31,399 --> 00:04:34,920
control the NCUBA has right now and has had for

92
00:04:34,959 --> 00:04:36,600
at least the past few seasons.

93
00:04:37,319 --> 00:04:42,160
Speaker 1: Yet the NC Double A doesn't have much power over football,

94
00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,920
not as much as they do basketball. Mark Pope actually

95
00:04:44,959 --> 00:04:49,079
brought up an interesting commentary. I said it to you yesterday, Ronnie.

96
00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,240
Let's play this for Kugarnation if we can. It's in

97
00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,399
the DMS. Mark Pope said this on the current NC

98
00:04:54,519 --> 00:04:58,879
DOUBLEA eligibility situation. The NC Double A might be losing

99
00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,680
in court, He's said, and for these uh uh these uh,

100
00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,319
these these n I L issues, Like did you like

101
00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,800
the other issue that's coming into play right now is

102
00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,319
like G League players NBA players coming back and playing

103
00:05:12,319 --> 00:05:15,720
at their university. Uh, Betty Ico is coming back and

104
00:05:15,759 --> 00:05:18,399
he's eligible to play. He's been in the G League

105
00:05:18,439 --> 00:05:21,040
and and now he's coming back to play for Alabama

106
00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,839
and their run, their quest to make it in the

107
00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,279
n C Double A tournament and and to uh to

108
00:05:27,319 --> 00:05:28,759
win an n C Double tournament, but the n C

109
00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,800
Double A could lose in court, but they still get

110
00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,759
to decide who makes the n C Double A tournament.

111
00:05:33,079 --> 00:05:36,079
At some point we have to take a stand and

112
00:05:36,199 --> 00:05:40,079
regain some tiny ounce of sanity. This game matters too much.

113
00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,319
Do you think the NC Double A will disqualify teams

114
00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:48,079
that play uneligible you know, ineligible players.

115
00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,279
Speaker 2: If they do, there's gonna be lawsuits against them for

116
00:05:53,319 --> 00:05:57,519
that as well. I mean, right now, it's just absolutely

117
00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,800
an insane time to be eric for college athletics. And

118
00:06:00,879 --> 00:06:02,879
you know as soon as they start making those teams

119
00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,879
ineligible that teams are gonna sue the n C Double

120
00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:06,720
A for this as well.

121
00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:13,399
Speaker 1: There's, uh, there's always a legal battle raging. Let me

122
00:06:13,439 --> 00:06:15,360
ask you this. I know you're a big b YU

123
00:06:15,399 --> 00:06:18,879
football and basketball fan. Uh we were. We got into

124
00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,600
a little off the cuff debate yesterday about the most

125
00:06:21,639 --> 00:06:24,399
talented player ever to play at b YU on the

126
00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,800
on the hardwood. See what's your definition of talent? So

127
00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:33,480
when I say most talented player basketball wise, what what's

128
00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,959
your If you were to look up your own terminology,

129
00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:42,160
you're Merriam Webster, You're Layne Allo. Uh terminology, what is talent.

130
00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:48,399
Speaker 2: Well, I'm operating with the advantage of like the players

131
00:06:48,439 --> 00:06:50,800
that I know from my lifetime. Like I know that

132
00:06:50,879 --> 00:06:55,480
there's like, uh, you know, the Danny Aingels out there

133
00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,519
and and and guys to store my time, But I

134
00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,600
really didn't start watching the basketball until like the early

135
00:07:01,639 --> 00:07:05,759
two thousands, and so for me, it's still Jimmer. And

136
00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:11,199
I think I think AJ's feeling is obviously higher than Jimmer's.

137
00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,079
I mean, I think he's going to go to the

138
00:07:13,199 --> 00:07:16,399
NBA and have an excellent career there. But in terms

139
00:07:16,439 --> 00:07:20,240
of college basketball players, you can't argue how much of

140
00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,839
an impact Jimmer had not only at the YU, but

141
00:07:22,879 --> 00:07:25,600
for all of college basketball the year that he was

142
00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,399
for the years that he was playing at Day, specifically

143
00:07:28,399 --> 00:07:29,519
his junior and senior year.

144
00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,360
Speaker 1: So okay, so how would you then? So I'm trying

145
00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,959
to like set some foundational things. His talent is a

146
00:07:36,959 --> 00:07:40,160
subjective term to many, even though there's a definition for it.

147
00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:45,199
Some people interpret talent differently than others. Some people, for instance,

148
00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,920
say that Jimmer Fredad is not the most talented player

149
00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,959
to come through BYU because he doesn't have you know,

150
00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:58,120
the the the physical tangibles, the ceiling right the athleticism

151
00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,800
of certain layers. Right from a talent standpoint, he's productive,

152
00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:07,399
he's efficient, he's uh, he's sneaky athletic, right, but he's

153
00:08:07,439 --> 00:08:09,920
not the most talented. Does that make sense? What's your

154
00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,360
definition of talent? Is it like more based off of

155
00:08:12,399 --> 00:08:16,279
production and like skill set or is it more so

156
00:08:16,319 --> 00:08:21,040
based off of like your physical tangibles, athleticism and upside potential?

157
00:08:22,079 --> 00:08:25,079
Speaker 2: No, it has to be what you're producing, kat like

158
00:08:25,439 --> 00:08:27,160
if that if that were not the case, I mean

159
00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:31,720
there are I guarantee there have been more athletic athletes

160
00:08:31,759 --> 00:08:34,279
on both the basketball side and football side than some

161
00:08:34,279 --> 00:08:37,240
of the guys that we know and talk about. But

162
00:08:37,519 --> 00:08:40,720
if they don't produce, it doesn't matter. Right, And so

163
00:08:40,799 --> 00:08:43,519
for for jim Or when when I say talented, he

164
00:08:43,639 --> 00:08:46,960
was by far the most talented score that I've seen

165
00:08:47,039 --> 00:08:51,159
play at b y U. And so we're strictly talking

166
00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:55,759
like for for aj Dbansa, I assume that's that's where

167
00:08:55,799 --> 00:08:58,360
the debate is going, Like is a j the most

168
00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,759
talented players? He has a lot of of unrealized potential

169
00:09:01,759 --> 00:09:04,799
and unrealized talent right now, Like I have no doubt

170
00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:09,360
that he's going to surpass jim Or at some point

171
00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,159
during his career, but the amount of production that we

172
00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:16,759
got from jim Or his senior year specifically still outmatches

173
00:09:16,799 --> 00:09:18,759
what AJ has done up to this point.

174
00:09:19,919 --> 00:09:23,840
Speaker 1: Lane real quick remind our fans, our listeners why they

175
00:09:23,879 --> 00:09:25,840
should head on over to game day, Minchell to get

176
00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,159
their bodies back into the game.

177
00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,960
Speaker 2: You owe it to yourself. I mean, there's absolutely no

178
00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:35,720
We make this process as simple as as possible. Come in,

179
00:09:36,279 --> 00:09:38,960
get your blood work done, find out what your baselines

180
00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,200
are at. If you're feeling pluggish, if you're feeling tired,

181
00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,200
if you're feeling feeling irritable, if you're not sleeping well

182
00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:46,679
at night, if you look in the mirror and you

183
00:09:46,759 --> 00:09:49,799
say a guy that you don't recognize anymore, come in.

184
00:09:50,279 --> 00:09:53,799
There might be a very easy and reasonable reason why

185
00:09:54,039 --> 00:09:57,120
you're seeing that person, and then we talk to you

186
00:09:57,159 --> 00:10:00,200
about what you can do to improve your life. So

187
00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:04,240
there's there's absolutely no reason not to. The initial lab

188
00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,919
work is completely free of charge. The actual consultation itself,

189
00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,240
where we have a medical professional sit down with you

190
00:10:11,919 --> 00:10:14,240
to talk to you about what your results are saying,

191
00:10:14,919 --> 00:10:18,679
that's completely free of charge. So there's literally very little risk.

192
00:10:18,799 --> 00:10:21,720
Other than like just your time and like I said,

193
00:10:21,759 --> 00:10:25,519
like there's it's just you o to yourself. Come on in.

194
00:10:25,879 --> 00:10:28,360
We'll treat you well and get some answers to why

195
00:10:28,399 --> 00:10:30,240
you're feeling, you're looking the way that you are.

196
00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:35,039
Speaker 1: Love that final thing for me, aj De Bonsa, currently

197
00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:40,000
staying at number two in ESPN's men's College Basketball Freshmen

198
00:10:40,039 --> 00:10:42,759
of the Year contenders. This is from Jeff Borsello and

199
00:10:42,799 --> 00:10:45,440
myor Medcrafts. They said, this is what they had to

200
00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:49,519
say about de Bonsa had he had perhaps his worst

201
00:10:49,519 --> 00:10:51,200
game of the season and you was lost to Texas

202
00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,440
Tech over the weekend, finishing with thirteen point six for

203
00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,360
seventeen shooting. That performance came after a ten game streak

204
00:10:57,399 --> 00:11:01,320
of twenty point performances and a Division one freshman record

205
00:11:01,399 --> 00:11:03,639
nine traight games with at least twenty points on fifty

206
00:11:03,639 --> 00:11:08,000
percent field goal shooting. To Debanza continues to show flashes

207
00:11:08,279 --> 00:11:11,600
of absurd dominance with the inability to take over a

208
00:11:11,639 --> 00:11:15,360
game like few of his peers. He entered the week

209
00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,480
fifth in the country and scoring at twenty two point

210
00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,559
five points per game to go with six point eight

211
00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,080
rebounds in three points six assists. Do you think he

212
00:11:22,159 --> 00:11:25,320
becomes the Freshman of the Year this season.

213
00:11:29,799 --> 00:11:34,519
Speaker 2: I personally think he will. His body of work right

214
00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,960
now is pretty incredible. I know, I know that there's

215
00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,480
this is a very talented freshman class with Cam Busier

216
00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,399
at Duke and kill Williams at Carolina and then obviously

217
00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,159
Darren Peterson at Kansas, Like there's a lot. I think

218
00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,679
there's probably more competition than share than there has been

219
00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,720
in the past fifteen or twenty years. But I think

220
00:11:53,799 --> 00:11:56,200
Aj is putting together a body of work that is

221
00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,360
really impressive. And obviously I have my day biases stuff

222
00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,960
like that, but I think he can. I think that

223
00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,799
that he has played exceptionally well up to this point.

224
00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,000
And he man, he is still young. We're only halfway

225
00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,519
through the season. Like he's only getting better. Like, I

226
00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,120
think that the sky's the limit for this kid.

227
00:12:17,919 --> 00:12:21,080
Speaker 1: Lenallo. Game Day Men's Health appreciate you hopping on for

228
00:12:21,159 --> 00:12:23,799
a World of BA Sports segment. Thanks for hopping on, brother.

229
00:12:24,399 --> 00:12:25,759
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Man, you have a good one.

230
00:12:25,759 --> 00:12:27,600
Speaker 1: Here you go sign up today get back into the

231
00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,840
game at game Day Men's Health game Day ment health

232
00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,240
dot Com. Let's take a brief time out. We'll be back.

233
00:12:32,279 --> 00:12:34,440
Don't go anywhere, Still plenty to get to on a

234
00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,879
beautiful Friday edition of Cougar Sports. Here on your one

235
00:12:36,879 --> 00:12:40,279
o three nine ninety eight point three FM, DOW, ESPN,

236
00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:40,679
The Fan

