WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:02.680 Either ever since. So I'm really happy that we would 2 00:00:02.720 --> 00:00:04.839 definitely get to see your face and it actually meet 3 00:00:04.839 --> 00:00:08.359 the person behind your personality. You have a big one, 4 00:00:08.439 --> 00:00:12.000 and I love that you know how open you are 5 00:00:12.039 --> 00:00:14.679 about your beliefs and where you come from and kind 6 00:00:14.679 --> 00:00:17.839 of just how you are in life. So tell us 7 00:00:17.879 --> 00:00:20.359 a little bit more about what you've been up to, 8 00:00:20.480 --> 00:00:22.359 who you are, Let private talk get to know you 9 00:00:22.399 --> 00:00:23.039 a little bit more. 10 00:00:24.800 --> 00:00:27.640 I mean, I've been doing many things. I feel like 11 00:00:28.039 --> 00:00:32.840 recently I've been working more in the capacity of a 12 00:00:32.880 --> 00:00:38.280 developer because I think that while we have a lot 13 00:00:38.320 --> 00:00:40.520 of complaints about the governments of the world and the 14 00:00:40.520 --> 00:00:45.200 way things are running right now without creating alternative systems 15 00:00:45.240 --> 00:00:47.520 for people to be able to live in, than those 16 00:00:47.560 --> 00:00:52.280 complaints are slightly slightly annoying. 17 00:00:52.439 --> 00:00:54.159 I mean, like you a complain about it, but like what 18 00:00:54.200 --> 00:00:54.880 are you doing about it? 19 00:00:55.000 --> 00:00:57.039 Right? Like what are you actually changing? How are you 20 00:00:57.119 --> 00:01:00.880 moving people into a better space. We know that what 21 00:01:00.920 --> 00:01:04.040 capitalism has done has been hiding its deficits and destroying 22 00:01:04.040 --> 00:01:07.359 the environment and doing lots of crazy things, but what 23 00:01:07.519 --> 00:01:09.879 is what does post capitalism look like? Or what does 24 00:01:09.879 --> 00:01:13.959 an alternative system? So I've been more over the last 25 00:01:14.120 --> 00:01:16.560 like five six years, I've been more in the realms 26 00:01:16.599 --> 00:01:24.159 of developers, so building schools, hospitals, working taking care of 27 00:01:24.159 --> 00:01:28.519 often children amazing. One of my most proudest things that 28 00:01:28.560 --> 00:01:32.120 I've done in recent years is I rescue an elephant 29 00:01:32.400 --> 00:01:34.920 from slavery, and I'm going to go and do that again. 30 00:01:35.120 --> 00:01:37.519 So that's awesome. I think it's cool because it's one 31 00:01:37.560 --> 00:01:39.920 of those things I think why at the time for me, 32 00:01:39.959 --> 00:01:42.040 if I think about where I was in my life, 33 00:01:42.040 --> 00:01:43.799 the time frame that I'm saying when I first started 34 00:01:43.799 --> 00:01:46.159 following you is I was traveling a lot in the 35 00:01:46.200 --> 00:01:48.840 world and like seeing other sides where it was really 36 00:01:48.879 --> 00:01:52.400 cool and very inspirational to see not only the culture 37 00:01:52.400 --> 00:01:54.159 of where you are, but to really appreciate it, not 38 00:01:54.239 --> 00:01:57.120 just what's shown to you from like either social media 39 00:01:57.280 --> 00:02:00.280 or the media in general, because it's nothing what it 40 00:02:00.319 --> 00:02:04.359 really is. And myself of like going to I don't 41 00:02:04.359 --> 00:02:06.319 remember if it was Bally. I think it was Bali. 42 00:02:06.560 --> 00:02:08.919 I went to Bali and I did an elephant tour 43 00:02:09.000 --> 00:02:10.599 and I, you know, I have a picture with my friends. 44 00:02:10.599 --> 00:02:12.599 But after doing it, it was the saddest thing, but 45 00:02:12.599 --> 00:02:14.000 it was happy because I wanted to do it, but 46 00:02:14.039 --> 00:02:16.560 it was sad because you saw the like the elephants 47 00:02:16.560 --> 00:02:18.520 being slaved like you know, and again that's how they 48 00:02:18.520 --> 00:02:20.800 make their money. So it's like you give and take, 49 00:02:20.879 --> 00:02:22.759 like how do you know that's the they're living off 50 00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:25.960 the land. But as you know, liking animals and you know, 51 00:02:26.039 --> 00:02:28.439 seeing that, you know they're working on these tours and 52 00:02:28.479 --> 00:02:30.240 they're not getting a break and they're not doing all 53 00:02:30.240 --> 00:02:31.800 those things. So you see things a little bit more 54 00:02:31.840 --> 00:02:34.199 differently from the other side when you're in it. So 55 00:02:34.280 --> 00:02:36.199 that's why I feel like for you is having your 56 00:02:36.199 --> 00:02:39.400 reach and having your ability to do both is really 57 00:02:39.439 --> 00:02:41.840 cool to kind of, you know, segregate myself to like 58 00:02:42.080 --> 00:02:43.599 I wouldn't even like I said, I don't know how 59 00:02:43.599 --> 00:02:45.560 I found your page, but I'm happy that I did, 60 00:02:45.639 --> 00:02:48.520 you know. But we're definitely two different walks of life, 61 00:02:48.520 --> 00:02:50.439 but have the same belief systems, And that's why I 62 00:02:50.479 --> 00:02:52.000 feel like kind of what rooted us together. 63 00:02:53.280 --> 00:02:59.319 I think a lot of the world exists in macro 64 00:02:59.520 --> 00:03:04.360 and micro road cosms. You look in a lot of 65 00:03:04.360 --> 00:03:07.800 the time people are thinking and acting locally, and then 66 00:03:07.800 --> 00:03:12.439 when you travel you then start to think globally. You 67 00:03:12.479 --> 00:03:15.560 start to think like across the whole world, and then 68 00:03:16.360 --> 00:03:17.960 the cultures become more interesting. 69 00:03:18.039 --> 00:03:20.120 I mean it's like you take the rose colored glasses 70 00:03:20.120 --> 00:03:21.680 off because you have nothing other of them in to 71 00:03:21.719 --> 00:03:23.240 see what the reality is what you're in. 72 00:03:23.520 --> 00:03:26.120 Right. Well, that was twenty twenty for a lot of people, 73 00:03:26.159 --> 00:03:29.159 where all the clubs got shut down, all of the 74 00:03:29.319 --> 00:03:31.439 cinemas got shut down, all of the things that they 75 00:03:31.520 --> 00:03:33.960 used to do to escape where they were shut down, 76 00:03:34.000 --> 00:03:36.439 and then they had to be present. And so I, 77 00:03:36.759 --> 00:03:38.919 for a long time now have been present and that 78 00:03:39.000 --> 00:03:43.120 has allowed me to kind of For instance, before I've 79 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:45.280 been to Thailand before because I go there to do boxing, 80 00:03:45.439 --> 00:03:48.759 but I'd seen the elephants before, but I never really 81 00:03:48.800 --> 00:03:50.919 went to go and inquire into how they were living 82 00:03:50.919 --> 00:03:53.479 and what was going on. And then when the were 83 00:03:53.560 --> 00:03:55.599 locked down, I was in Thailand, and so I just 84 00:03:55.680 --> 00:03:57.599 went to start seeing the elephants every day. And then 85 00:03:57.639 --> 00:04:00.840 I worked out how things were running, and I raise 86 00:04:00.879 --> 00:04:03.560 some money and we freed one of them that she's 87 00:04:03.599 --> 00:04:05.960 now free in a sanctuary. She's fifty six and she's 88 00:04:05.960 --> 00:04:06.919 living her vest of life. 89 00:04:07.120 --> 00:04:10.199 Oh that's so beautiful, that's really cool, Like how do 90 00:04:10.280 --> 00:04:12.719 you go about doing something like that? 91 00:04:14.159 --> 00:04:18.160 So in Thailand, elephants are taking their bread for working 92 00:04:18.759 --> 00:04:22.279 and people will pay for the elephants and for that process. 93 00:04:22.600 --> 00:04:24.959 And like a young elephant because they know they're gonna 94 00:04:24.959 --> 00:04:27.279 get because elephants can live to like eighty years, So 95 00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:29.680 a young elephant, they know they're gonna get at least 96 00:04:29.680 --> 00:04:32.680 like fifty sixty working years out of And you know 97 00:04:32.800 --> 00:04:35.920 each photo or each trek is like five dollars ten dollars, 98 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:38.160 so you can see that that adds up. So you've 99 00:04:38.199 --> 00:04:40.839 got to go to the owner and then ask to 100 00:04:40.879 --> 00:04:42.560 buy them, and then if they agree, you go to 101 00:04:42.600 --> 00:04:44.680 the government where the elephants are registered, and then you 102 00:04:44.680 --> 00:04:47.600 would transfer the elephant into your name or to a sanctuary. 103 00:04:47.600 --> 00:04:51.360 So the elephant that we bought was like thirty thousand dollars. 104 00:04:51.399 --> 00:04:53.600 But there's another one that I want to get when 105 00:04:54.240 --> 00:04:56.680 I go back and free her, and I think that's 106 00:04:56.720 --> 00:04:58.720 going to be more like eighty thousand dollars and then 107 00:04:58.800 --> 00:04:59.360 they eat. 108 00:04:59.199 --> 00:05:02.079 What makes the but what's the what makes the like 109 00:05:02.240 --> 00:05:05.160 number change? Is it because of the age 'rh The 110 00:05:05.160 --> 00:05:05.639 one I. 111 00:05:05.560 --> 00:05:10.279 Got was fifty five or fifty four, and the one 112 00:05:10.319 --> 00:05:13.079 that I want to get is eleven. And so she's 113 00:05:13.160 --> 00:05:14.240 a baby and elephants. 114 00:05:14.240 --> 00:05:17.079 She so she would be a big ticket price because 115 00:05:17.160 --> 00:05:20.560 she could get a lot of money, right, But she's. 116 00:05:20.759 --> 00:05:23.120 She was, she was like, we had a real deep one. 117 00:05:23.199 --> 00:05:29.800 The thing about elephants is is they're huge, pacidrm sentient beings. 118 00:05:29.839 --> 00:05:33.360 They are a keystone species. They can communicate in ways 119 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:36.879 that we can't communicate. So they have a frequency range 120 00:05:36.920 --> 00:05:40.000 that we can't even access, really low vibrations, and so 121 00:05:40.600 --> 00:05:42.959 the communication with an elephant is more like a feeling 122 00:05:43.199 --> 00:05:46.360 than like actually speaking, like they understand what you say 123 00:05:46.439 --> 00:05:49.839 if you train them to do that. But we had 124 00:05:49.879 --> 00:05:52.680 a really deep connection, and you know, to the point 125 00:05:52.680 --> 00:05:55.199 where when I left, she cried and I got pictures 126 00:05:55.199 --> 00:05:57.079 of like her crying and stuff, and I was like, oh, 127 00:05:57.319 --> 00:05:59.680 so when I come back, she's gonna remember because elephants 128 00:05:59.680 --> 00:06:02.040 have huge, huge memory banks. 129 00:06:02.040 --> 00:06:04.879 And so that's really me. That's really cool. I like 130 00:06:04.959 --> 00:06:07.480 that because for me, it's like you don't for myself, 131 00:06:07.519 --> 00:06:08.879 I when I go in there and knowing that I 132 00:06:08.920 --> 00:06:11.079 had a lot of empathy for what was going on, 133 00:06:11.160 --> 00:06:12.680 but you don't know how you can help, you don't 134 00:06:12.680 --> 00:06:13.959 know whatever. So I feel like there needs to be 135 00:06:14.079 --> 00:06:17.399 more conversations about how you can where you can go 136 00:06:17.480 --> 00:06:19.199 and do those things, you know, because sometimes it is 137 00:06:19.199 --> 00:06:21.839 a little deterrent because if going there is only you know, 138 00:06:21.839 --> 00:06:24.839 a situation sometimes that not everybody has the means to 139 00:06:24.879 --> 00:06:27.399 do that as well as doing you know. But it's 140 00:06:27.439 --> 00:06:30.480 cool to see what the capability of what you can 141 00:06:30.600 --> 00:06:32.600 do and what that can the process it takes. 142 00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:35.800 You have as much power as you decide that you have. 143 00:06:35.959 --> 00:06:39.800 It's just a lot of the time people become apathetic 144 00:06:39.959 --> 00:06:43.439 because they decide that somebody else is supposed to be 145 00:06:43.519 --> 00:06:46.319 responsible for their personal life choices, or somebody else is 146 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:48.920 supposed to be responsible for their life. So a lot 147 00:06:48.920 --> 00:06:51.319 of people think they'll see a problem and they'll think 148 00:06:51.360 --> 00:06:53.759 I can't solve that, and then it will make them 149 00:06:53.800 --> 00:06:56.160 depressed because once you make an observation, you have an 150 00:06:56.199 --> 00:06:58.319 obligation and then you end up in it like a 151 00:06:58.399 --> 00:07:01.079 kind of a spiritual battle. When I see something, I'm 152 00:07:01.120 --> 00:07:02.199 just like, I want to fix it. 153 00:07:02.519 --> 00:07:05.759 Have you always been that way from your child or 154 00:07:05.839 --> 00:07:08.120 was there something that happened in your life that triggered 155 00:07:08.160 --> 00:07:11.040 you to go on this journey. 156 00:07:11.480 --> 00:07:14.199 I feel like there was a few There was a 157 00:07:14.199 --> 00:07:18.079 few stages. I knew when I was younger that something 158 00:07:18.160 --> 00:07:19.759 wasn't right, and I didn't. 159 00:07:19.560 --> 00:07:22.680 Know what was with yourself of the world. 160 00:07:23.839 --> 00:07:29.279 Both. I felt like myself had been conditioned into believing 161 00:07:29.360 --> 00:07:34.680 that selling drugs and like being aggressive, this was the 162 00:07:34.720 --> 00:07:36.519 way that I was supposed to be. But I knew 163 00:07:36.560 --> 00:07:38.480 that that wasn't right within me, and then the world 164 00:07:38.759 --> 00:07:43.639 was like conditioning me to that place. And then I 165 00:07:43.759 --> 00:07:47.439 joined the military, and then I realized the world very 166 00:07:47.560 --> 00:07:50.600 wasn't right because the military is obviously violence and all 167 00:07:50.639 --> 00:07:55.040 of these things that have been kind of paid for 168 00:07:55.199 --> 00:07:58.360 by the people of the countries, Like that's what tax 169 00:07:58.680 --> 00:08:00.959 like in this country. For instance, in the USA, one 170 00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:04.120 third of every tax dollar gets spent on defense, right. 171 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:07.160 And though that might be good if it's like protecting 172 00:08:07.199 --> 00:08:09.680 the borders, it's not good if you like bombing loads 173 00:08:09.680 --> 00:08:14.519 of kids in Afghanistan, right. And so now I'm nineteen 174 00:08:14.959 --> 00:08:19.319 and I'm in Iraq in a war. So then I 175 00:08:19.399 --> 00:08:23.560 was like, oh, definitely things aren't right. But it allowed 176 00:08:23.600 --> 00:08:25.519 me to realize that a lot of people, when they 177 00:08:25.519 --> 00:08:27.120 want something in the world, they just go and get 178 00:08:27.160 --> 00:08:29.439 it or go and take it. And so I'm like, well, 179 00:08:29.480 --> 00:08:31.839 if I want something peaceful to happen, I need to 180 00:08:31.879 --> 00:08:35.279 make it happen. I can't wish or just manifest, like 181 00:08:35.399 --> 00:08:37.639 prayer only works if you put action behind it. So 182 00:08:37.679 --> 00:08:41.000 I'm like, ever since kind of I left the military, 183 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:42.879 I've been making stuff happen. 184 00:08:43.000 --> 00:08:44.600 So you feel like that kind of shaped kind of 185 00:08:44.639 --> 00:08:46.679 like who you saw that you didn't want to become 186 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:47.960 because of what it. 187 00:08:47.919 --> 00:08:54.039 Stood for definitely, and also seeing that power is not 188 00:08:54.480 --> 00:08:58.840 merely just an idea. It's something that you have to 189 00:08:58.879 --> 00:09:02.840 physically do. You can't just be like I feel powerful 190 00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:07.039 and therefore I am, but you know you're hiding behind 191 00:09:07.399 --> 00:09:09.320 Instagram when you need to be out on the streets 192 00:09:09.320 --> 00:09:10.120 doing something right. 193 00:09:10.159 --> 00:09:11.960 For sure, I think, I mean it's a powerful statement 194 00:09:11.960 --> 00:09:14.519 within itself with because it's like a lot of people 195 00:09:14.639 --> 00:09:17.600 don't get to those realizations sometimes ever, you know, and 196 00:09:17.679 --> 00:09:19.960 unless you really are willing to really do the work, 197 00:09:20.039 --> 00:09:22.159 or you feel as something inside of you, like as 198 00:09:22.159 --> 00:09:25.120 it seems yourself that is truly wrong and you can 199 00:09:25.240 --> 00:09:27.919 make a change because it's about the hard work that 200 00:09:27.960 --> 00:09:30.440 you put in. It's about what you know, breaking those 201 00:09:30.480 --> 00:09:32.799 barriers because who else is going to do it? And 202 00:09:32.840 --> 00:09:35.200 that's kind of why I feel like Also to why 203 00:09:35.200 --> 00:09:38.320 I gravitate it is because I kind of teeter the 204 00:09:38.360 --> 00:09:41.679 line of not knowing what my power really is to 205 00:09:41.720 --> 00:09:44.600 that extent, but knowing that I know I have power 206 00:09:44.639 --> 00:09:48.200 and I have beliefs in what the message is. So 207 00:09:48.279 --> 00:09:50.039 I feel like that's why again with the conversations here 208 00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:52.799 with privatoc, it's like not everybody knows each other fully, 209 00:09:52.840 --> 00:09:55.799 but having the open, the hard conversations of finding out 210 00:09:55.840 --> 00:09:58.559 what that means and where the synergy with exists with 211 00:09:58.600 --> 00:10:00.240 each other is a beautiful thing. 212 00:10:01.480 --> 00:10:04.080 I don't think any conversation is hard. I just well, 213 00:10:04.159 --> 00:10:06.200 and maybe if you've got emotional well. 214 00:10:06.240 --> 00:10:08.320 I think for some people, certain things people don't like 215 00:10:08.360 --> 00:10:11.000 to talk about certain topics or the fact of like 216 00:10:11.080 --> 00:10:14.080 what the real problem like issues are of like knowing 217 00:10:14.120 --> 00:10:16.799 that you know you can like you said, like I 218 00:10:16.879 --> 00:10:18.840 made the comment of not knowing that you could go 219 00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:20.919 to Bollywood, but you can do it if you want 220 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:22.879 to put that behind it. But it's like again doing 221 00:10:22.919 --> 00:10:25.799 the work and knowing what that power really means and 222 00:10:25.879 --> 00:10:28.120 actually doing the work. And that's the most people don't 223 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:30.440 want to do the work, and so it's like kind 224 00:10:30.480 --> 00:10:33.360 of making that middleman kind of happen. And that's kind 225 00:10:33.399 --> 00:10:35.039 of like where I feel like with you being so 226 00:10:35.320 --> 00:10:37.840 vocal where you are is kind of you being the 227 00:10:37.879 --> 00:10:41.320 middleman for your followers and who you've had that belief 228 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:42.799 system kind of support what you're doing. 229 00:10:43.919 --> 00:10:47.799 I think, I think things become hard when you overthink. 230 00:10:48.240 --> 00:10:52.679 Like they say that procrastination is like masturbation. You're just 231 00:10:52.720 --> 00:10:56.240 fucking yourself, right, And a lot of the time people 232 00:10:56.679 --> 00:11:00.879 overthink themselves into inaction, and things come hard when you 233 00:11:00.919 --> 00:11:03.279 decide that you're not going to do anything about it. 234 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:05.279 If you're going to do something about it, then there's 235 00:11:05.279 --> 00:11:07.159 a different type of heart. But at least it's like 236 00:11:07.320 --> 00:11:09.879 action is behind it and you have the positive reinforcement 237 00:11:09.919 --> 00:11:12.639 of seeing the results of your work, whereas if it's 238 00:11:12.759 --> 00:11:16.159 just for instance, you know, you see people at these 239 00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:21.399 Oscars and Grammys and you'll get a comedian like Ricky Gervais, 240 00:11:21.399 --> 00:11:23.840 for instance, will come up and start talking about pedophilia, 241 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:27.120 and everybody's like whoa, Oh, I can't believe he's speaking 242 00:11:27.159 --> 00:11:29.600 about that because they're not willing to actually address it. 243 00:11:29.639 --> 00:11:32.480 That goes on and like take that out of. 244 00:11:32.679 --> 00:11:34.080 I mean, look at the world that we've lived in 245 00:11:34.120 --> 00:11:36.440 with all these like things coming out with powerful people 246 00:11:36.480 --> 00:11:38.320 having issues with those things. Is you know what I mean, 247 00:11:38.360 --> 00:11:40.879 it's like that taboo, as I'm saying, those things where 248 00:11:41.080 --> 00:11:43.240 it should be be taboo for us to speak about 249 00:11:43.279 --> 00:11:45.960 because it shouldn't happen and it shouldn't be hidden, it 250 00:11:45.960 --> 00:11:49.320 shouldn't be talked about in those things because that's kind 251 00:11:49.360 --> 00:11:50.360 of where those things happen. 252 00:11:50.960 --> 00:11:53.720 Well, I mean there is that too, but I'm just 253 00:11:53.759 --> 00:11:56.200 saying that to say, a lot of the things that 254 00:11:56.200 --> 00:11:58.039 people don't want to speak about is because they're not 255 00:11:58.039 --> 00:12:00.440 willing to do anything about it. And that's oh my, 256 00:12:00.600 --> 00:12:02.480 you're speaking, you're telling me about this. I don't want 257 00:12:02.480 --> 00:12:05.159 to know about this. Let's speak about something different. And 258 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:08.960 I think twenty twenty for a lot of people where 259 00:12:08.960 --> 00:12:12.000 they had to confront issues that they never they were 260 00:12:12.039 --> 00:12:15.440 able to run away from before and now there's nowhere 261 00:12:15.480 --> 00:12:20.840 to run. So it's like Erica Baduce, when you can't 262 00:12:20.840 --> 00:12:22.840 go outside, go inside, and a lot of people had 263 00:12:22.840 --> 00:12:24.919 to go inside and deal with their own shit. 264 00:12:25.399 --> 00:12:28.000 I agree with that, myself included. You know, I had 265 00:12:28.039 --> 00:12:32.200 a lot of things that because being so busy and 266 00:12:32.240 --> 00:12:34.679 on the road and whatever, is like you deal with things, 267 00:12:34.720 --> 00:12:37.840 you know, surfacely because you have to, and it's every day, 268 00:12:37.879 --> 00:12:39.279 you know, you go. You go day by day, and 269 00:12:39.279 --> 00:12:40.720 that's just what it is. But there's a lot of 270 00:12:40.720 --> 00:12:43.240 things when everything was calm and still, there was things 271 00:12:43.240 --> 00:12:45.960 that I hadn't worked with or dealt with or didn't 272 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:49.639 even know where even issues because there wasn't quiet time. 273 00:12:49.720 --> 00:12:53.000 There was always static because I created that because I 274 00:12:53.159 --> 00:12:56.720 wanted to have something to make me not deal with 275 00:12:56.759 --> 00:12:59.799 those issues. So it's like one of those words like 276 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:03.519 so I see the change of like having to do 277 00:13:03.559 --> 00:13:06.200 that in the work. It's just it's fascinating to see 278 00:13:06.200 --> 00:13:08.600 how they put in the work to doing now and 279 00:13:08.639 --> 00:13:10.960 like what you stand by. So that's kind of also too, 280 00:13:11.000 --> 00:13:14.080 Like with you is me, you know, following you years ago, 281 00:13:14.600 --> 00:13:16.879 I feel like even some of your views and your 282 00:13:16.879 --> 00:13:20.720 beliefs have kind of changed from me being a fan 283 00:13:20.759 --> 00:13:22.840 of years before. And so at a certain time, I 284 00:13:22.879 --> 00:13:24.720 know that you made a post and I was like, 285 00:13:26.440 --> 00:13:29.279 I understand that people change and stuff like that, but 286 00:13:29.320 --> 00:13:32.159 it's like also and then you're not a judgmental person 287 00:13:32.240 --> 00:13:35.519 at all, But it's like our parallels are so different too, 288 00:13:36.519 --> 00:13:40.120 was a question of I've done pornography, I've done sex, 289 00:13:40.159 --> 00:13:42.279 I've done all these things that I'm open about too 290 00:13:42.320 --> 00:13:44.080 and not that you haven't done those things. I've been 291 00:13:44.159 --> 00:13:47.360 vocal too, it's but now your sigma or your viewpoint 292 00:13:47.480 --> 00:13:51.120 now it seems more negative about that. So for me 293 00:13:51.320 --> 00:13:55.320 was how do you still become or be so nice 294 00:13:55.360 --> 00:13:58.440 to me and things like that if your viewpoint changed 295 00:13:58.440 --> 00:14:01.759 on those things, Because I. 296 00:14:01.720 --> 00:14:10.120 Mean, this is the thing we aren't. You aren't that industry, right. 297 00:14:11.159 --> 00:14:14.519 My partner, she's an actress and she's a model. She 298 00:14:14.679 --> 00:14:18.000 is not that industry. She's not in boardrooms making the 299 00:14:18.039 --> 00:14:21.159 decisions as to what is next done in that space 300 00:14:21.279 --> 00:14:26.919 or place. People. I can love people, and I can 301 00:14:26.960 --> 00:14:33.480 love individuals without loving systems that support the I suppose 302 00:14:33.720 --> 00:14:42.159 the structure or well that support dissent from spirituality. Right, 303 00:14:42.320 --> 00:14:45.759 So I would say that, for instance, the music industry 304 00:14:45.799 --> 00:14:48.399 shouldn't be an industry because music is of the spirit 305 00:14:48.519 --> 00:14:51.440 and the voice is spirit. It's become an industry. So 306 00:14:51.600 --> 00:14:57.519 now people are making TikTok videos that then become songs 307 00:14:57.600 --> 00:14:59.759 that then become garbage that everybody has to listen to 308 00:14:59.840 --> 00:15:03.879 all time, right, And the reality is that, Actually, I 309 00:15:03.879 --> 00:15:07.879 don't believe that it should be a space where things 310 00:15:07.879 --> 00:15:10.159 of the spirit should be commercialized. I think things of 311 00:15:10.200 --> 00:15:14.360 the spirit should be not industrialized to the point where 312 00:15:14.639 --> 00:15:21.759 now people who aren't creative, like corporations, are controlling creativity 313 00:15:22.120 --> 00:15:26.159 because they're now influencing. We've got all this trash music, 314 00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:28.639 We've got these trash movies, We've got all of this 315 00:15:28.799 --> 00:15:32.519 trash coming out, and it's like the blind leading the blind. 316 00:15:32.559 --> 00:15:35.440 It's people who don't really know what spirituality is or 317 00:15:35.440 --> 00:15:38.240 they're not connecting with their spiritual self now sitting in 318 00:15:38.240 --> 00:15:41.159 boardrooms and making decisions for people who do know what 319 00:15:41.240 --> 00:15:43.200 that is. And now the people who did know what 320 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:45.799 that is before and now having to play into a 321 00:15:45.840 --> 00:15:48.000 game of people who don't know what they're doing. So 322 00:15:48.039 --> 00:15:50.399 now it's like everybody doesn't really know what they're doing. 323 00:15:50.919 --> 00:15:59.799 And I think with pornography, I think pornography is not 324 00:15:59.840 --> 00:16:02.799 just sex. Right. For instance, if I put on my 325 00:16:02.879 --> 00:16:06.000 Instagram now a black man being shot to death by 326 00:16:06.000 --> 00:16:09.039 a white police officer, it will stay up there, right, 327 00:16:09.360 --> 00:16:12.080 But that is violence pornography. It's a type of pornography. 328 00:16:12.120 --> 00:16:13.919 If I was to put sex on my Instagram, that'd 329 00:16:13.960 --> 00:16:16.639 be taken down. Some people are making decisions as to 330 00:16:16.679 --> 00:16:19.039 what is okay and what is not okay, and usually 331 00:16:19.120 --> 00:16:22.759 the people who are making those decisions aren't right right, 332 00:16:22.840 --> 00:16:26.000 So like the people who influence health in the country, 333 00:16:26.000 --> 00:16:28.279 for instance, the people who decide what goes on with 334 00:16:28.320 --> 00:16:31.600 agriculture and what goes on with food aren't healthy themselves. 335 00:16:32.200 --> 00:16:37.039 And so I don't have any issue with individuals per 336 00:16:37.080 --> 00:16:38.960 se unless they're harm in others. 337 00:16:39.480 --> 00:16:42.240 But isn't part of what the content that you say 338 00:16:42.240 --> 00:16:46.639 that is harming others something that I'm partaking in because 339 00:16:46.679 --> 00:16:49.840 for me is I pride myself off no or being 340 00:16:49.879 --> 00:16:52.440 in tune with my sexuality, and I'm a spiritual person 341 00:16:52.440 --> 00:16:54.240 as well, and I no longer shoe porn for the 342 00:16:54.279 --> 00:16:57.480 last five years either. But I also still connect with 343 00:16:57.480 --> 00:17:00.559 my sexuality and I don't and I don't use it 344 00:17:00.639 --> 00:17:05.119 as a stigma for something. It's how I express myself. 345 00:17:05.480 --> 00:17:07.119 And so that's why for me, it's like, but if 346 00:17:07.160 --> 00:17:10.799 I'm also part of the problem because of I'm feeding 347 00:17:10.839 --> 00:17:14.200 into the play of what you're saying is, how is 348 00:17:14.319 --> 00:17:17.680 there where do you draw that line? Because how am 349 00:17:17.680 --> 00:17:21.279 I not somewhat of the problem in your view? 350 00:17:22.880 --> 00:17:24.599 I mean, I am not good right. 351 00:17:24.559 --> 00:17:26.200 Fact, And that's the saying I don't for you, it 352 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:28.480 wasn't you know, the conversation here wasn't meant for that either, 353 00:17:28.519 --> 00:17:30.880 but it was just I've always been connected to you, 354 00:17:30.920 --> 00:17:33.319 and even after the comment, I didver straighted and I 355 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:35.839 still follow and I still support everything that you do. 356 00:17:36.319 --> 00:17:39.079 But as myself and me defining who I am as 357 00:17:39.200 --> 00:17:42.039 an individual outside of my industry too, I still don't 358 00:17:42.079 --> 00:17:44.599 stray from what I've done, so for me, I try. 359 00:17:44.640 --> 00:17:47.880 I minored in sociology, so I'm very fascinated and about 360 00:17:47.880 --> 00:17:50.240 people and their culture of why your beliefs are the 361 00:17:50.240 --> 00:17:52.079 way your beliefs because they may be different than mine, 362 00:17:52.119 --> 00:17:54.279 and that is perfectly okay as long as it doesn't 363 00:17:54.279 --> 00:17:57.279 harm what I'm doing. To each his own, but I 364 00:17:57.359 --> 00:18:00.440 want to know why on certain things, to get a 365 00:18:00.440 --> 00:18:03.960 better understanding of what that really means. It's because for me, 366 00:18:04.160 --> 00:18:07.640 it's not a harmful thing. For me, it was a 367 00:18:07.680 --> 00:18:10.640 glorified thing that I glorified, not because someone made me 368 00:18:10.759 --> 00:18:13.759 do it, because I felt comfortable expressing myself in an 369 00:18:13.880 --> 00:18:17.079 artful way. That was my art. That's how I expressed myself. 370 00:18:17.359 --> 00:18:21.359 But in the heart In hindsight twenty twenty, there's also 371 00:18:21.759 --> 00:18:24.599 what you're saying as well, and you're not wrong with 372 00:18:24.680 --> 00:18:27.680 all the different types of porn and what's being targeted 373 00:18:27.720 --> 00:18:29.720 to people's fetishes in this and there's different you know 374 00:18:29.759 --> 00:18:31.880 what I mean, And I'm on a smaller scale, but 375 00:18:32.400 --> 00:18:34.839 being so passionate and like having that opinion is why 376 00:18:34.839 --> 00:18:36.240 I wanted, you know, to have that conversation. 377 00:18:38.480 --> 00:18:43.000 I think the problem, particularly for me, is with black 378 00:18:43.039 --> 00:18:46.880 people and the way that black people are portrayed in 379 00:18:46.960 --> 00:18:50.920 an inferior power dichotomy where we don't rule or control 380 00:18:51.039 --> 00:18:53.240 any of the industries that we enter into, whether it's 381 00:18:53.279 --> 00:18:56.279 the music, whether it's athletes, the million dollar slaves that 382 00:18:56.319 --> 00:19:00.680 we know that if you you know, you can beat 383 00:19:00.680 --> 00:19:02.960 your wife and not get kicked out of the NFL, 384 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:04.839 but if you kneel down, you're gonna get kicked out 385 00:19:04.880 --> 00:19:06.799 of the NFL. My friend Colin got kicked out of 386 00:19:06.799 --> 00:19:10.319 the NFL. And I think one of the bigger problems 387 00:19:10.359 --> 00:19:13.680 that I have is when you are in a power 388 00:19:13.759 --> 00:19:16.279 dichotomy where you're at the bottom of that powered dichotomy, 389 00:19:16.319 --> 00:19:19.319 then anything that is done at the top is not 390 00:19:19.880 --> 00:19:22.079 something that you now get the end result of. So 391 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:23.880 you don't get the money for any of that stuff, 392 00:19:23.920 --> 00:19:27.839 but you are getting the deficits, you're getting, the trauma, 393 00:19:27.920 --> 00:19:32.279 you're getting all of these things. The biggest viewers of 394 00:19:32.799 --> 00:19:36.160 ebony porn or white people, not Black people, right, And 395 00:19:36.240 --> 00:19:42.720 so I don't think personally, I don't think that. I 396 00:19:42.759 --> 00:19:45.440 don't think that adults who want to make adult decisions 397 00:19:45.440 --> 00:19:49.240 are being led astray by pornography as an industry. But 398 00:19:49.319 --> 00:19:52.960 I do believe that what is being taught or what 399 00:19:53.079 --> 00:19:58.920 is being told to be accepted. For instance, so my 400 00:19:59.039 --> 00:20:03.920 friend David Banner, he's a music artist, right, and he 401 00:20:03.960 --> 00:20:09.000