Speaker 1: Truly a sight. Don't be all a man, The once
great champ now a study and mopishness. No longer the
factory hungry Stylli. Wait right, so many times before a
pathetic wash up age, ax champion?
Speaker 2: All right, let's go. I think you know the guy.
I think you know what's pretty dear?
Speaker 3: WHOA his name?
Speaker 2: Is he Presley? He presents?
Speaker 4: He?
Speaker 2: Presently? He Presley?
Speaker 1: What's my name?
Speaker 2: Say my name, bitch? My good friend? Is he Presley?
Speaker 4: Is he Presley? He ouch? Is he Presley? WHOA?
Speaker 2: That sounds a little weird? Is he presently? Is he Presley?
Is he Presley? The heaviest, gurthiest rocky j around. Hey,
this is Jeffer.
Speaker 4: You listen to Izzy Presley. Those aren't pillows.
Speaker 2: We have heard of Van Halen.
Speaker 3: Hello, Las Vegas, Hello world, Hello, my loyal minions. It
is good to see you, and it's always good to
be seen. The program it's called another FM podcast. I'm
your host, Izzy Presley. I know, I know, I know.
It's been a while, and I'm sorry. I've been busy.
I've had shit to do, I've got bills to.
Speaker 4: Pay, but I'm here. I'm back.
Speaker 2: Nothing has changed other than my glorious beard.
Speaker 3: It is good to see everybody, and I have a
great show for you today. Vinnie Trdoritch returns. His movie
is called Dirty Keto and it is available on Amazon
right now, right now. You see, it's been a while.
I just I can't even talk right now.
Speaker 4: You know what good that ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3: The words my close personal friends. Don't call Steve Auston
crack one for the working man. Ah yeah, God damn
do I love beer And I love you guys, you
guys there there it is, and it is good to
see you. Lots of shit going on. Lots of shit
has happened. Obviously. The act show May twenty fifth already happened,
considering gets August thirteenth.
Speaker 2: But that was great.
Speaker 3: Todd Hallworth, Slade, the band Slaye, it was great. It
was awesome, had a blast, even got praise from the
Almighty Eddie Trunk. I played guitar in front of Jaki
Lee out of tune, so that was awesome. But no,
it was great. It was a great show. It's been
a great couple of months. I've just you know, this
knows to the grind. I haven't had a lot of
time to do this, but I think it should free
up a little bit and and we can get back
to a little regular scheduled programming here on another ref
and podcast, and you can look at me more.
Speaker 2: Because I know you love to do that. Coming up
this not this weekend, but the following weekend.
Speaker 3: The Mountain Music Festival. It's going to be a glorious time.
Tickets are still available up in Gatlinburg, Tennessee. It is Friday,
the twenty second, I'm sorry, Friday the twenty third, Saturday
the twenty fourth, Sunday the twenty fifth. I get in
Friday morning, so any pre parties that are happening the
night before that you guys are doing, I shall not
be there, but I will be there bright and early
on Friday morning and ready to kick it off. Of course,
Night Ranger, Tesla Jackal, the Stony Curtis Band, which you guys.
Speaker 4: Will love because Stony Curtis is awesome.
Speaker 3: You guys are going to have a blast, and if
you just want to go for a day, you can
do that. Single tickets are available and that website will
be right down here in the comment description place gimmick, so.
Speaker 2: Check that out.
Speaker 3: And we are doing punchlines and back lines there, Courtney Cronin.
Speaker 2: Don Jamison, Jim Florentine.
Speaker 3: Myself, how Sparks just got added to the show because
they are playing that day and they I mean, you
know Nerdalen and Mike Dawson. Did I say Mike Dawson
already Mike Dawson, that's right. He's never done the show
that because he's never on the boat, but he's in Gatlinburg.
We're going to do punchlines and back lines. And our
special guest musician who's never done stand up comedy ever before.
Her name is britt Lightning. Of course, Brittany from Vixen.
So that should be glorious. It is going to be
a great, great weekend. So if you do make it
out to Gatlinburg, please come up and say hi, and
do not buy me shots.
Speaker 2: I got work to do.
Speaker 3: It's like work, but it's fun work and work that
I love and I love doing it.
Speaker 2: So what else do we got? Kids? What is going on?
Oh my god, look it's Vegas. It's Vegas. There's just
so much shit constantly going on like.
Speaker 3: This this Friday night. I oh, you know what last
Friday And let's talk about last Friday night. I was
lucky enough my good friend Carrie Trim, that's not her
last name, I just call her Trim, hadn't extra ticket
to the Sammy Hagar show at MGM. And of course
this is the best of all World's tour that is
going on right now with Michael Anthony and Jason Bonham
and Joe Satriani. And it's basically a van Halen set,
and there's a couple other gems thrown in there that
are not van Halen, but it is amazing.
Speaker 2: It is so goddamn good.
Speaker 3: All the reports, all the reviews that you've heard, they
are not bullshit, folks, this set list, especially if you
are a van Hagar era Van Halen fan like I am,
I love them both. It's Apples and Oranges. It's two
different bands.
Speaker 4: Not Dalen Healen without danger.
Speaker 3: Oh, they're both fucking awesome. Well, like I said, it's
apples and Oranges. It's different stuff, but that's okay, you
can love them both. It's all right, So heavy on
Sammy's era, a lot of great stuff, especially off fifty
one fifty, which is record. I absolutely love the fact
that they're doing the song fifty one fifty is fucking Ace.
Speaker 2: Oh it's Ace. I claim, I proclaim it's Ace. It's money,
It's phenomenal.
Speaker 3: Saturawnie's great, Jason Bonham's great. Dude, the show's fucking awesome.
If it is coming to your town, Ron, do not
walk to your ticket office and check that out. I
don't know even what can I say about it that
has not been said. I'm not gonna borrow you with
all the shit that I've been doing. So you don't care.
You want to get to the money shot. You want
to get to the interview, and that's fine. We'll get
there in a second.
Speaker 4: Folks.
Speaker 3: I'm a little riled up because I have not done
this since May, and I miss this. I miss you,
grocery store gal, misses you. The sum bitch this is you.
Give me a gone beer, settled down, some bitch drink
a fucking beer in front of you. So yeah, I'm
not gonna borrow with the rest of the ship. Whatever
you guys like the show, you guys know what to do.
Uh venmo real Izzy Presley cash app dollar sign?
Speaker 2: Is he Presley? PayPal? Is he? It is he? Or
I'm sorry, is he Presley at yahoo dot com? All
that kind of good ship.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna be working on some stuff to get
back in the fold here and we'll get rolling on
the show once again. And make sure you do check
out all of the links that are down below in
the description here.
Speaker 2: You know the Beata amplification. Do we need to do it?
One hundred lots of testicular part fortitude pull two tubes.
You have a three fifty here, you have a fifty
three channels of gloriousness, handwired, handbuilt, just beautiful. You see
it right behind me. And of course that beautiful victag
Usa strat or telecaster. Check them out as well. Just
check out all the links. Support everybody that supports me,
because that's how this works. That's how this works, kids,
And say hider Tiffany Amber. Yes, she's excited as well.
Speaker 3: So Vinnie Tortitch is coming up here in a second. Yes,
obviously this is not live anymore, which sucks.
Speaker 2: I tried to.
Speaker 3: Get a live feed and I didn't like the platform,
so I said, screw it. I'm not gonna pay for
shit that is not worth it. So I can just
upload the podcast to spreaker. It it goes to everywhere
that you guys get your podcasts. And it's free, why
not say the money? And I figured, well, I'm paying
for the goddamn zoom, might as well get the show
rolling again. So this is where we're at. Vinnie Tordarch
has a brand new movie called Dirty Keto, and obviously
we pre recorded the movie. He's not here with me
right now. That means that we just got done with
the interview. But you figured that out because you can
use your math. We talk about the movie. We talk
about a lot of stuff. We talked about Keto and
why it is not a diet. We talked about how
when you see Keto on something in the store, it's
not Keto. We talk about how they hide all the
shit in there that keeps you fat. We talk about
the ozempic farce. Yes, he could do a whole movie
on that. He talks about that in this in this interview,
and it's always great to hear from him. Of course,
his wife, Serena Scott Thomas has debuted on My Stories.
Yes she is now playing Fiona. Yes she is Fiona.
She is Fiona on Days of Our Lives playing Xander
Cook's mother. So we we get into a little Days
of our Lives talk folks.
Speaker 2: Gotta love my stories. It's great to talk to Vanni.
He's always entertaining.
Speaker 3: And check out his other movies, Fat a documentary, Fat
two and Beyond Impossible, which dives into it was the
last time he was on the show and that movie
came out, dives into the forests of impossible burgers and
why they're horrible for you and.
Speaker 4: You just go watch them. Didn't you find them all
like to.
Speaker 3: Me, except except for Dirty Kuto because it just came out.
It can only get that on Amazon.
Speaker 2: So, folks, without further a law.
Speaker 3: I bring you hold on, I'm gonna I'm gonna bring
you to Vinny Tortoch like this.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have a Wayne's World moment. Do Do Do
Do Do Do Do Do Do Do.
Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, if you ever see the finished project
product of this show, Vinnie, you will uh you will
see that joke that starts out right before I go
into this Welcome back, and it is uh is good
to be back, and it's good to be back with
one of my favorite guests. And his name is Vinnie Tarts.
You know the podcast is Fitness Confidential. Of course that
is the book as well, and the brand new movie
which is called what the fuck is the movie called.
Speaker 2: Thank You Sorry? I was having a fucking brain fart.
Speaker 3: I don't know why, and I'll tell you why, because
there's something very important on my mind. I am very
disappointed in your wife, Vinny.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, what does she do now?
Speaker 3: She got drunk and she ran over with her car
her brand new daughter in law.
Speaker 2: Okay, would you believe that? Right before I came on, like,
I was uploading my last podcast and I turned it on.
I didn't know that it would be in this episode.
I know what's going to happen ahead of time because
she she told me as things happened when she was
taping them all, and I knew it was coming up.
I just didn't know when. But yeah, I just turned
that off with her hitting hitting her daughter in law
who just got married like five minutes earlier. Yep, you
guy is Denny.
Speaker 3: I have been watching Days of Our Lives, said I
was in fifth grade. Really, yeah, I've been watching Days
of Our Lives that long. There was a few years
where I didn't. Then I got sucked back in and
it's like, all right, it's on, it's on. I mean
I used to I used to tape it. You know,
I used to plan my day around being home at
one o'clock so I could watch Days of our Lives
and it really pissed me off, Minnie, Like that was
the one thing that pissed me off the most about
the pandemic is they always had the goddamn press conferences.
Speaker 2: At one o'clock California time, and it ped the days
of our lives. Oh yeah, we didn't have press conferences
where we were. Was that a daily thing for you guys?
Speaker 4: Oh it was.
Speaker 3: It was the National Press conference.
Speaker 2: Oh. I didn't watch any of it. Yeah, yeah, I
was living the pandemic. I wasn't gonna certainly go watch
it on television. You know. Well, I.
Speaker 3: Did pay attention to it, but every day it got preempted,
I got pissed.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry that that happened to you. Man. That's terrible.
I know, I know. Are you Are you watching it daily? Now?
Speaker 3: Are you into it? Are you enjoying it? Are you
enjoying Days of our lives?
Speaker 2: Mannie? This isn't the important shit people want to know. Well,
I am. I'm watching it for the first time in
my life. Before she started coming on, I knew when
she was coming on, so about a week ahead of time,
I started watching, and it's amazing. I've never seen a
soap opera ever, and I was able to pick up
and know what was going on to a certain degree. Yeah,
and hey, maybe you can tell me this. Has it
always been like that where sometimes they'll do a couple
of two or three stories and they'll run with that
for two or three days, and then it's almost like
those people don't exist anymore, and they'll pick up two
or three other stories and run those for two or
three days and go back. And it's amazing how your
brain just remembers the other stories and you go right
into them. Yeah. Yeah, that's exactly what they've been doing
for years. Yeah. So for me, after I kind of
got into it, what I do is I'll go with
fast forward, and if my wife is not in it,
I just you know, blow through, and if I see
that she's in it, I'll stop and watch all of
her scenes. And but I did watch a scene or
two today that she wasn't in because it was like, oh,
that's Xander and Xander's wife, Yes, might be talking about
something that Serena's going to do. What's what's my wife's
name is going to do And yeah, so I did
watch a couple of auxiliary scenes today. But is that
wrong that I'm doing that I'm plowing through just to
find Yeah, you shouldn't.
Speaker 3: Be catching up on all the parts of the stories.
In the stories, you know, this is a lot of
shit going on. It's like, is that actually going to
be Abigail? She's been dead for how many years? You know,
there is this big shit going on right now, Vinnie,
this is a good time to get into it. So
I'm happy that you're loving it. Well, heng On, you
know you mentioned Abigail was coming back and she was dead. Okay, Like,
I don't even know that story, but my I'm gonna
call it my wife.
Speaker 2: Her name is Ciona. So and like the second show
when she's sleeping with the other guy and then her
son comes to the door of the hotel and she goes, quickly,
you have to leave, jump out of the window, and
he was like, we're the third floor, and she goes,
but you're fit, It's like he, yeah, you could be
as fit as you want to be. Jumping out of
a third floor window is not the best idea. The
things they say on that show is pretty amazing, right, Oh,
it's just ricoculous, and that's part of the beauty of it.
Speaker 3: But if you would have watched the scene after that
when he's limping through the park, it's like, yeah, maybe
twist his ankle a little bit. It wasn't a perfect landing.
Speaker 2: He limped a little bit, and he had like one
leaf in his hat in his hat, and it was like, Wow,
if I knew I could jump out of a third
story window and just get a leaf and limp, I'd
do it all the time.
Speaker 3: Oh man, I could sit and talk days of our
lives all day long. But Dirty Keto is the movie,
and it is finally available on Amazon.
Speaker 2: Correct it is. And it took Amazon exactly sixty five
days after the release date to actually release it. I
don't know if you know that. Yeah, and you know,
you know you're doing something right. You know you're pissing off,
you know, or as I like to say, I'm pissing
in someone's corn flakes. Because they would not even tell us.
You know, it's supposed to be released on May thirtieth,
and it just came out like a week or two ago.
And we kept writing to him daily and calling him going, Hey,
it was supposed to be released. What's going on? Crickets?
Just crickets, And we just kept asking day in and
day out. And then finally, about two weeks before they
released it, they wrote to us and said, hey, we
will agree to release this if you will sign a
statement saying that you were willing to let it be
released as a PG thirteen. And I didn't even ask why.
I just said, okay, yes, do that because no one
under thirteen is going to watch this documentary anyway. But
you know, I'm gonna name drop here. I was doing
Mike Rose podcast and he hasn't put it out yet.
I think he's saving me for sweeps or whatever. As
a matter of fact, I've been listening every week to
see who's more important than me, and today it was
Jason Alexander. So I'm like, all right, I'm okay with that. Yeah.
So Mike Rowe, who's also seen the movie, like you
have uh? When I when I mentioned that to him,
he was like, wait, hang on, did you send me
the whole Yeah? I saw the whole movie, right. He's
like yeah, he goes, you don't use any language whatsoever,
And I was like, Nope, no, any side boob or nothing. Nothing,
I show a little side boob, but it's Harry and
it's Italian. Yeah yeah, it didn't really matter. Yeah. Old
and he was like going, were you smoking? And it's
like no, no, It's like they couldn't say some violent smoking,
some language. He goes, no language, no sex, no smoking.
No you didn't have a beverage in your hand, did you? No? No?
But they made me put a PG. Thirteen on it.
So that means I'm really I'm getting close to the
quick as they like to say.
Speaker 3: So so did they they make you think? They they
made you do that just to limit how many people
are actually able to see it.
Speaker 2: You think, I don't know. What do you think is
the thinking behind it? I don't know. They also they
didn't put me into health documentaries. They put me under
special interest. You know, they they've done everything they could
to hide Back in the days of newspapers, like if
someone like a politician got in trouble, they would get
their press people to come and say, hey, bury the story,
meaning bury it on page eight of the newspaper where
no one's going to ever get to it, right, And
you know they they're burying that documentary over an Amazon,
which is crazy, but it makes me realize that, oh wait,
I obviously said said something that pissed someone off, right, which.
Speaker 3: Is what I do right right? Yeah, you, I mean
you lay it on the line. And in all the
documentaries you kind of lay it on the line. A
lot of people, you know, probably say that, oh, he's
just you know, he's just saying this shit to get
the press, YadA, YadA, YadA. But you're spot on and
everything that you're talking about. And I mean, like one
of the things you talk about in the movie is
how the like the FDA, they allow all these things
to be in there even though it's supposed to be
no sugar added or not sugar. And like you see
all these things from like Europe and you look at
the ingredient list and it's like four things that you
look at the same thing as it is here in
the United States, and it's just a laundry list of
everything that you can imagine. Do you think is there
a big money behind that or what is going on
with that that you think.
Speaker 2: Big corporations they don't want someone you know going you know,
I'm kind of like you know, Scooby Doo, you know,
you know, it's like everything was working fine until these
crazy kids came along. Yeah, yeah, And I think that's
what happens with me. You know, everything is going good
and fine, and then here comes this idiot going, hey, guys,
here's what they're actually doing to you. And by the way,
I've been disrupting like that. I had a radio show
called Talking Fitness in you all back in the late eighties,
and I was talking about a lot of the stuff
back then, and everybody just thought, oh, he needs a
tenfoil hat. But now internet is much bigger than a
local AM radio show, you know, and when you start
making waves, they come to get you. Right, you are not. Look,
you know, I sit in my basement and do these
podcasts and everything else, and I'm always thinking that no
one knows who I am and this kind of thing.
But as it turns out, you know, people start figuring
out who I mean when I walk through airports. Now
it's you know, I'm shocked at the number of people
because of the documentary. You know, no one saw me
when I was just doing podcasts. But you know, fat
a documentary, the first one, which is the number one
movie Gravatas has ever put out, not the number one documentary,
the number one So you know, I always go, now,
I'm airport famous, right where people you know, I get
recognized in airports around the country. And that's when you
know you're causing a problem, you know, when people know
who you are, right, And I think that's happened to
me to some degree. And you know, a lot of
it has to do like when I order coffee, you know,
when you know I've been on Corolla Show one hundred
times I think ninety eight to be exact. Wow. So yeah, yeah,
so you know I have a quirky sounding voice, right,
so when I'm ordering a Starbucks, I want to go,
oh my god, you're the Adam Corolla guy, which is
kind of nuts that they would remember that. And you know,
Mike Rowe is now having me on for a third time.
So you know, when you start doing these these mega
podcasts over and over and over and these people keep
asking you to come back on, it comes you know,
like you know, now they're going, oh, we can't control
them anymore. You know, it's okay when they can. They
can shadow ban me on on, throttle me back on YouTube,
yea and Instagram. You know, we know that they're doing
that to me because we can see the back end
and we can see what they're doing to me. But
if I keep busting out of that and putting up
these documentaries, then they go, okay, now what do we do?
You know, how do we handle this guy now? Right?
And that's kind of where we are.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's really unfortunate because it's important information, you know,
it really is. And you know, I try to spread
the word as much as I can. Obviously I don't
live it like I should be living it, but I'm
weak willed. What can I say?
Speaker 2: But you know what is let me stop you right there,
because it's guys like you. You know you you have
more of a rock and roller, all right, and that's
who pays attention to you and in your corner of
the world. But you're willing to go, oh wait, let
me get this guy on right. So now that brings
me to a whole different audience. I'm now seeing your
guys who would never know my name without you. So
I applaud guys like you who go, you know what,
I'm going to break from having you know, you know
the eighties hairband, you know girl that did a split
on the car even though she's dead. And I also
good luck getting her on, you know, yeah, I think
that was tany Katain. Yes, yeah, you know what. I'm
met her a couple of times. She was always nice,
but everyone said, oh my god, she's nuts, since she's crazy,
and you hear these stories and people asked me, I
say she was nice to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, to say with Bobby Brown, she was great to
me the few times that I had her on.
Speaker 2: You know, I still haven't Is she still alone? Yes? Oh,
I still haven't met Bobby. She's sober now too. That's,
you know what, more power to her. Has it been
a lot of time or is she really so It's
it's I think it's been a couple of years.
Speaker 3: It's been a couple of years, you know. She she
kind of disappeared for.
Speaker 2: A little while.
Speaker 3: She went home to Louisiana. She got her ship together.
She's sober. She posts a lot of Bible stuff.
Speaker 2: Now, good for her. Man, you know, she's still my
cherry pie. Oh yeah, every's cherry pie.
Speaker 3: But d it's it's it's so funny you talk about
how you know, you get recognized by your voice, and
you know, because of Corolla, and all that stuff. And
Ricky Rackman was just on the Corolla Show a couple
of months ago, and I was talking to Ricky and
he said, it's so weird. It's like all the things
that I've done and all, you know, the TV show
on Axis and YadA, YadA, YadA. I've had more people
come up to me and say, dude, great job on Corolla. Yeah,
you know, nobody recognized me from the other ship.
Speaker 2: It's really kind of strange, right, Like, you know, I've
been on National well, when I was on Oprah, you know,
people remember that a lot. But you know, I was
on you know, national shows with Howie Mandel, like Access
Hollywood type shows in this NAT and no one really said,
you know, you might get one guy that day go
oh my god, I saw you earlier today on the thing,
you know, and uh, that's weird. But yeah, Corolla is
up there. It's something well, you know, when they started
putting my movies on free access, like on tub and
some of these, you know, I still get paid for those,
but most people, you know, have the free stuff than
the paid stuff. And when you end up on the
two b's and the YouTube TV's and everywhere else and
you know, that's when the chick at the checkout counter
will go at the grocery, Oh my god, I just
saw you, my husband, I saw you last night, you know.
But yeah, I would have to say Corolla is still
the number one thing I get right, Yeah, and according
to Geo, I'm like number four, number five all time,
you know guests, you know, like I'm ebbing on one hundred, right,
and I don't not many people have done that on
that show.
Speaker 3: No, it's uh, it's pretty remarkable. And you know, it
says something about what you bring to it too. I mean,
you're likable and you know what the fuck you're talking about.
So the movie Dirty Ketoe, how I brought that back?
Speaker 2: Thank you? And what they call a pro.
Speaker 3: When did you When did you decide that this is
the next one that you wanted to do? Were you
planning on doing another movie?
Speaker 2: No? I never plan on doing another movie, but yeah,
Dirty Keto was You know. I do consults every day, right,
And the only reason I do consults is so that
I can keep my ear to the ground and hear
what's going on. And most of the people I've talked
to are plus three hundred pounds. Some of them as
many six hundred, six hundred and fifty pounds and the
you know, I'm these are the people I'm working with now,
and they'll lose one hundred pounds and then they'll stop,
and this kind of thing. I started seeing this trend
over and over and I'll say, well, are you still
in dieterarrktosays well, I'm having trouble staying in, but I'm Keto.
I'm only eating you know, Keto. I'm only eating low
carb Keto foods. And I'll say, like what, And it was, oh, well,
you know my wife started bringing this Keto ice cream
into the house. Okay, that's an oxymoron. And you know
we have this Keto bread and Keto bagels and Keto
Keto ketok and I'll go, well, wait a minute, none
of that stuff is Keto, but it says certified Keto
right here. So I would jot down everything while I
was on the phone with them, and when I get off,
I would just go look up the products and you know,
it's like, oh shit, there's a whole industry around this now.
And I started noticing this three or four years ago, right,
So it takes a long time to go from this
is a good subject to actually getting there right, because
there's you got to write it and you have to
do all the things right. And as you may or
may not know, Mikero said to me, he goes, man,
you read off of a teleprompter. You make it look
so natural. And I said to him, yeah, that's because
there's no teleprompter. Yeah, but wait, you're just talking off
the confident went yeah, yeah, I have an idea of
what I want to say, and then I just say it. Right.
I know my subject by the time I sit down
from my sit down with the cameraman and you know,
and cut and go. I know what's going to come
out of my mouth. And I'll have you know, like
a piece of paper like this with you know, just
ABC and d are just you know, bullet points. Yeah,
same sort of deal. And that's that's what I do.
And I could just talk extemporaneously on that, and of course,
you know, you addit things now, but it all takes
a long time. So I probably started thinking about it
four years ago while I was actually doing but beyond impossible,
you know, I was already working on Dirty Keto. That's
how they keep coming out so fast. I'm finishing up
one and the other ones already on the planning stage.
Speaker 3: What you know, it's so funny you talk about all
these Keto products, you know, and it's the same. They'll
slap vegan on anything. They'll slap Keto on anything, you know,
just to sell it. And I've tried the Keto bread.
It tastes like fucking cardboard. It's really it's not good.
It's not good, you know, And it's just amazing how
people just say, oh, it says it, so I have
to buy it.
Speaker 2: It's not good and you're still getting nothing but carbs,
right right? Well, so the video no, you talk about that.
How do they hide it?
Speaker 3: I mean, how do they because they obviously sell it
as ketos like low carb you know, no sugar added,
no sugar. How do they hide it in there where
you're actually still getting it? They just out of whole cloth.
And this is what industry can do. They decided on
their own.
Speaker 2: There's no doctor, there's no study, there's no scientific research.
They just came up with a term net carbs. I remember,
you know, I'm on the ground doing this stuff all
the time, is and I remember the first time I
heard the term net carbs. I was like, net of
what right, Yeah, it's like no, no, no, it's net is
net for carbs. And I'm like, but what what's subtracting
the carbs? And they went, oh, fiber, So you can
subtract you know, the fiber from total carbs. So if
something has fifteen grams of carbohydrate but ten grams of fiber,
magically they're telling you that you can just pull out
ten grams and you're at in that carbs of five.
The other thing they do is they'll tell you it's
got zero sugar and you'll look and it's as sweet
as eating you know, a sneakers bar. It's like, well,
how did you get zero? Well, you could put up
to x amount of sugar in a product and still
say it zero. You know, A plus a mine of
two percent. So that's why you'll notice sugar on a
product of I don't know, up to ten ten different sugars,
but it's all two percent to get you to you know,
fifteen or twenty grams of sugar and you're still putting zero.
And some companies, even if you use stevia or erythratol,
they'll say, okay, we can subtract that from total sugar too.
It's all made up out of whole cloth. Because anything
under nutrition facts really they're not facts. Right, You're you're
you're You're allowed to lie under something called nutrition facts.
The only place where the truth is is on the
other side, under ingredients because by law, you have to
tell someone what they're putting in their body, right right,
otherwise you can have rat crap in a product or whatever,
you know, so they have to tell you exactly who's
going in. But no one really understands that. They look
at the big shiny graft over here that says nutrition facts,
and no one reads the ingredients, and that's where the
truth is.
Speaker 3: So like take, for instance, I'm drinking this zero calorie
caffeine free, sugar free seltzer, okay, And it's basically I
don't know if seltzer is just the new word now
for like wherever la crotchwater is, what is your take
on the stuff like this? I mean, is this Are
they burying shit in here?
Speaker 2: You're going to see somewhere written on their natural flavors?
Is it? If there weren't? All right? So all right,
so if you get your glasses on, I got the
glasses on. I just need light. Okay, let's get the
nutrition facts.
Speaker 3: All right, all right, so ingredients, carbonated water, natural flavors.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's one of the places they can hide,
you know, proprietary. They can hide sugar under that. Okay.
Speaker 3: So if I go down the nutrition facts, calories zero
total fat, zero sodium, zero carbohydrates, zero total sugars, zero protein,
zero calcium ten milligrams.
Speaker 2: Does it taste like a Lacroix type drink? Yeah? Okay, Okay,
here's the deal. If I'm being perfectly honest with you
on that product, if you were on a CGM continues
glucose monitoring and you drank that, your blood sugar won't
change at all, which means that it's not really causing
an effect. But just just for saying, I'm never a
fan of natural flavors, right, we don't know what they
can hide. But if you're trying to lose weight, and
that's the methodone clinic of you getting off of sodas,
I would rather see you drink that if I'm being
perfectly honest.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, I had a can of coke today,
but I don't have a can of coke every day.
It was just, you know what, I'm having a burger
and fries a coke. Sounds delicious, But what's in my fridge?
Speaker 2: This stuff? Right? And look, isy, I said before the
micro went hot, you look like you look better. You
look like you've lost weight, You're looking healthier. Maybe it's
because you got out of California. Maybe it's because it's
better sun out in the desert where you are now.
I don't know, but you look a lot better. So
I would say, keep going, well, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3: Well, So what about stuff? And I mean, we'll get
back onto some of the stuff in the movie too.
But you know, I do Instacart, so I'm grocery shopping
for people, you know, And so I'm in the grocery
all fucking day, and I see the shit that people
are buying, right, and I always see like the oat.
Speaker 2: Milk and the plant milk and all this stuff.
Speaker 3: And now this, and correct me if I'm wrong, but
this stuff is just basically oils, right?
Speaker 2: Is that? Is that what they're going? What's going on
with these things? Some of it is, there's some seed
oil and some of that stuff, But basically what they're doing,
if you look at all the ingredients on oat milk,
you're not getting oats at all, and by the way,
oats aren't healthy for you.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I used to go to the food shows where, you know,
if you're a vendor, you actually pay like eight or
ten thousand dollars to get in as a vendor, and
you're able to see all of the stuff that's coming
out and all of that kind of stuff. It's always
like milk rehm. You know, it's like everything is reimagined, right,
reimagine ice cream reimagined. Everything is made of either oat
or almonds or sometimes hemp, hemp seeds and this kind
of thing. So there are two or three things that
they can kind of milk make look like milk. So
people will say to me, well, then why are they
making this, And I'll say, well, because vegans need something
to make there to put on their cereal. Right, where
do you want to put an orange juice or apple juice?
So they started making something that resembled milk for vegans,
and I got used. For you you want to be
a vegan, that's up to you. But if you're going
to wake up in the morning and put food that
should be fed to a cow or a pig, meaning
an oat, and then put a bastardized product on that
bastardized product. You're starting your day with a body full
of inflammation, right, and you see it people that are
long term vegans, they just don't look good. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, look, I think the you know, like you
always say, the you know, the when it comes to
being vegan, or it comes to like you know, or
as I call it, meat gain where you only eat meat,
is that you're cutting out all the process shit, right,
then there gets to be a point where you have
to have other stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah. A lot of people tell me when they first
go vegan, they feel better, and that's exactly right. Is
either they're cutting out the process crap, so they feel better,
and then after like ten or twelve days past, they
start chasing the high of feeling better, they don't feel
better anymore, so they'll go, oh, well, wait a minute,
I should have more fruit juice. So now they're pumping
more sugar in their body. And when you start pumping
more sugar in your body, your body starts releasing grelling
and leap and a cortisol and all of this stuff,
and you start becoming resistant to it. Right. And then
what happens next is even more insidious. You go, well,
now I'm hungry all the time, so what do I
have to You know, I'm a vegan. I need to
eat something vegan ish, and you can only eat so
much broccoli and cauliflower and everything else. So they'll go, oh, wait,
this pasta can fill me up, or this rice can
fill me up, or all this corn, and they start
going down that road. Right, So now you have more
inflammation and more problems. So instead of just going, wait,
maybe I should have a staple that my body wants
a piece of meat or fish or chicken or you
know whatever it is, they just keep doubling down on
a bad idea until they decide not to right. Right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like even you know when I was when
I was doing you know NSNNG years ago, is that
they called it low carpi fat. It's like it's exactly it.
It's like, you see how far you can push it?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know, this beer cheese soup looks like it's good.
There's no bun on it, So I guess I'm good.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: You know you talk about in the movie, you do
start talking about how keto is not a diet right.
Explain that to people who might not understand that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, keto came out of Keto Jennet, which is not
to be confused with keto acidosis. And you know, I'm
one of the guys that brought the modern day version
of keto to the internet. By no means that I
invent this. That you know, there were you know, back
Banting in the late eighteen hundreds, mid eighteen hundreds wrote
the Letter on Corpulence, So we knew about it back then,
and we knew about it going through the nineteen twenties.
Out of Warburg used carb ketogenic guys to fight cancer,
and we knew it to be the only thing that
was stoped seizures. So there was nothing new about keto.
The modern forefather of keto was Robert Atkins, who fell
upon it from a couple of clients who found the
old letters and corpulents and tried it in the mid
early nineteen seventies, and he saw what was happening, so
he started studying it and he became you know Atkins,
which then became the Atkins Die, which is now bastardized
because he died. The family sold it and on we
go but then there were people like doctor Finnie and
doctor Volk that came along, and that's when I got
you know, I was I was paying attention to Robert
Atkins because I was getting people to lose weight low
carb and I started reading more about Finnie and Volick.
And this is kind of before the Internet existed. Yeah,
computers were, but people were still you know, it's like
data driven stuff and all that. You know, guys like
me had to go to libraries and use microfiche and
figure it all out. But Finny and Woldrich were writing
some articles and some of these other guys, and Robert
Atkins was there, and and then people like my buddy
Gary Talbs wrote a book called Good Calorie, Bad Calorie,
which is one of the best books, but it was
so boring to read that he ended up writing a
second book called Why Would Get Fat and What to
Do About It, which was a reader's digest version of
the first book. And I think my book came you know,
mine was more of the sing song he have you
ever read Fitness Confidential? I have not. My book was
even you know, my book told the story. It told
the story of my life and where I came from.
And how you know, I went to Hollywood and became
this guy that got all these people lose weight by
doing this crazy thing of low car, right, and it's
in a book. It's in book form. So people started,
you know, they're they're listening to Gary, they're reading Gary,
they're reading me, and now they're going, huh, there's a
couple of guys talking about this. And my podcast was
already out there, and of course I started bringing Gary
Talbins on the podcast, and other people like Wheat Belly,
you know, William Davis and Pearl Maoter, Brain Brain and
some of these other people. And then probably the best
book written on it early on, besides me and Gary
and all this was probably Nina Teischels, who wrote Why
We Big Fat Surprise. And so we were all there
at the beginning, right, and she started coming with She
and I are very close now, we're good friends. She
started coming on the show, and so we were all
kind of like the new version of this, right, and
when my show got popular, long before I met Corolla.
We're talking twenty ten eleven. You know, people like doctor
Eric Westman, who wrote the New Atkins for the New
Age or whatever it was called, all of these people were,
you know, clamoring to get on the show and talk
about it. So we had this show where we were
curating all this information with all the top doctors, Robert Lustig.
I mean, the fact that these people were talking to
me was It's like why me? It was like, oh,
because I'm the only guy that turned on a mic
and said would you come talk to me? Right? So,
and that's kind of how it went. But that, you know,
did I answer the question? Did I go off on
some tangent? You went off on a tangent? Oh? Sorry?
What was the question? Explain why keito is not a diet? Oh? Wow,
I meant to go there, and I just went I
went off into left field. Because ketogenic is just a
way of eating. I mean, you know, people go on
a keto diet and I'm like, what diet is that? Right?
Give me, give me the constraints of the diet. Well,
anything that's low carb will be ketogenic. I call it
n SNG no sugars, no grains. People call it carnivore.
Some people call it the lion diet. You know, some
people barely eat any meat, but they eat a lot
of coconut oil and olive oil and avocados and olives
and cheese and eggs, and they we all get the
same result. Right, How do you call that a diet
a diet? You know, whenever you a diet in the
sense of I'm on the Keto diet, where's that diet?
Who's who's come up with that diet?
Speaker 3: So would you say a diet is something that is
written out where this is exactly what you have to
eat eat.
Speaker 2: The definition of a diet is what any indigenous group
of people eat. That's the pure definition. But we've we've
stolen the word to say I'm on a particular diet.
We leave out the word particular. Right, people go up
the diet. We know what that means, right, you know,
like if you want to be an asshole, you can go, oh,
you're on a diet, Vietnamese diet, a Mexican diet. Which
group are you eating?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Right? So you know, the pure word diet means what
an indigenous group of people will eat, But we've turned
it into something that we're on. And I don't know
how keto can be in that category because it can
be so many different things. Right, I know people who
do it from a vegan standpoint. It's difficult, but they
do it. I can imagine, you know, I don't know
how many avocados I can eat and how many coconut
I can eat, and you know, but that's you know,
that's what they do. Yeah, you've done a lot of
these movies, and.
Speaker 3: Do you do you learn stuff while you're making these movies?
And did you learn anything about keto as you were
making this movie?
Speaker 2: One of the things I learned, And the truth is
strange and in fiction, I started seeing certified keto everywhere
and you saw that in the movie, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, actually I have keto certified written down here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're going to get to it right now.
But I was, you know, it's like one day I
was like going through all the stuff and I was like,
who's certifying this? Is this a government agency? So I
was like, let me look into it. So I went.
I went to the group and it's like, yeah, you
could just pay this money and if you want to
sell a bowl of sugar and call it certified keto, man,
I don't care, and just they'll sell you for like
five grand. You can you can go get the stamp
of approval. It would help if you put some fiber
in your bowl of sugar, because then you can fiber
from the toll amount. But yeah, they'll just sell you
the thing. And I was like, well, who are these
people like Seinfeld? Who? Oh? These people you know? So
I was like looking around to figure out who they are.
And I had their names in the movie originally, and
you blurred them out. My attorney made me do that.
He goes, yeah, this is a lawsuit waiting to happen.
But just to give you your audience an idea, I
say in the movie. Look, I can't say the names,
and I can't show you their photos, but one's a
cage fighter, one's like a music exact or agent, and
one is like a car sales. It was just a
bunch of friends who got together and bought the which
is brilliant, bought the term Keto certified, and they're they're
certifying people. They've got to be making a ton of
money off of this. Yeah, there's a lot of certified
stuff out there. And you know, did you.
Speaker 3: Look in to see how much it costs to be
Keto certified?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think I think it was like five thousand
dollars or something. Item. Yeah, it wasn't cheap.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they're basically making free money. Yeah yeah, good
for them. They're no different.
Speaker 2: Remember when Corolla was being sued because someone had the podcast,
Oh yeah, the patent trolls. Yeah, this is kind of
like that. It's like, hey, we we created this thing
out of whole cloth. You want to be part of it,
you know, and you know it's uh, the truth is
strange and in fiction, right, But that's something I wasn't
going to go down that path at all. I also
learned from doctor Ben BigMan, and someone jumped on me
on the internet, I saying, hey, I really loved your movie,
but you know that was a hit piece on GLP ones,
you know, like the we Go v and the ozempic
and the whole thing. It's not a hit piece. It's
a very intelligent doctor telling you, hey, look, you take this,
you will lose weight, but ABC in DA is going
to happen, including your body will make more fat cells,
which it generally doesn't do. But your body, you know,
you might be shrinking some fat cells, but your body
will generate more fat cells. That's not a hit piece.
These are facts, folks. You say it's a hit piece.
I get it. You know, glp ones are helping a
lot of people who couldn't lose a lot of weight
for a long time magically lose weight. But they're not
looking at the bad side of what might happen. Right, Well,
I'll learn that too with the audience.
Speaker 3: How is it different for people that actually are diabetic,
Like I have a good friend that is on oz epic,
but he is diabetic.
Speaker 2: It screws him up in different ways. I have a
brother on those drugs too because he's diabetic. So you
could see, like I could have put this in a movie,
but I was trying to keep it to an hour
and I didn't want to go down. It was called
dirty keto. I didn't want to go down in ozempic. Yeah,
you know, I can do a whole new pott. I
could do a whole new you know thing on ozimpic
and really become the most hated man on the planet.
But when you watch an ozempic commercial, and I'll watch
him close, like I don't see commercials until football season
comes around. Yeah, then they're commercials. Right. So there's one
oh ozempic you know from the song, and there's another
one Jardiance and they always have people who are heavy,
heavy set folks dancing around on a bus and this
and that going. We we could eat all the ice
cream we want. We bring on the doughnuts. I just
need to take this and it's going to get my
A one c is under control. Because for your audience,
an A one c of five point six means that
you're now diabetic. Right, so at five point five you're
pre diabetic. If you're anywhere like five to five point one,
you're you're okay, it's better to be at like four
point seven four point eight A one c's and a
one c's is an average of your blood levels over
the course of three months, right, That's what an A
one C is. So they will tell you in the commercial,
take this drug and you could get your A one
c's down as low as seven point five. Okay, Now
let's suss that out a little bit. You're you have
type two diabetes. You're taking a drug for type two diabetes,
and when you take the drug, you're at seven point five,
not five point five, where you need to be. So
they're saying in the commercial, take our drug and you
will still be perfectly sick. Does that make sense for
any level and by the way, people will say, well, Vinnie,
my doctor says I'm going to be type two diabetic
for the rest of my life. I beg to differ.
I have thousands of people who were A one seeds
of twelve and thirteen, who had limbs cut off, who
were over six hundred pounds, who are now below five
point six and off of all medication. So I don't
want to hear that it can't be done. You could
do it with diet. The one way you can't do
it is with that drug because the drug will never
get you that low. Unless you were right at five
point six, it'll drop you down. But if you're at
like seven or eight or nine, it might drop you
as low as seven point five. And that's about it.
So you're taking a drug with side effects and you're
still perfectly sick. You're making yourself an essence sick. Well,
that's very important information. And I know you gotta you
gotta wrap up because you have another show to do.
My outro music here really quick, and if Annie I can't,
I tell you what once you know. Once again, thank
you for coming back on the show, and so we'll
see you in a couple of years. When you're doing
your ozempic documentary and I expect to text tomorrow throw
back the days of our lives. The movie is called
Dirty Kto. You can get it on Amazon. Is it
available anywhere else? Right now? We're just on Amazon, just
on Amazon. We wanted to make a big splash there
and then later on we'll try to get it on
other platforms around the world so that people can see
it in third world countries and everywhere, just like my
other documentaries.
Speaker 3: Of course, as well as everybody should go out and
watch this movie if you if you have the chance,
if you have the Amazon or just something on Amazon
and get your free Amazon Prime so you can watch it.
Speaker 2: Anything anything you can do.
Speaker 3: Watch it and watch the rest of his movies Fast
Fat two, which you should have called Fatter, but that's
just me. And of course the vegan one you did.
I can't remember the name of it. Beyond impossible, Beyond impossible.
Yeah about the impossible workers, Thank you so much. Check
out his podcast Fitness Confidential. I randomly turned it on.
He was talking about how I, me and Dawson were
drunk one day when I was dropping him off for
the show.
Speaker 2: That was a great story, even though I've always can
I just send this real quickly? I got ten minutes
to be on my next podcast. All right, let it go.
Maybe you guys are such rock and rollers, and you know,
I've always like wanted to be, like I should come.
I want to come back on your show when we
have time and just talk about you guys and rock
and roll, and you know aies on your show, have
us on your show, people go what are they doing here?
Why are they doing this at the Saturday show? Maybe
I don't do it anymore. I just do three shows,
oh Saturday show back. But yeah, you know you guys. Yeah,
I was at the Corolla show and all of a
sudden a prius pulled up and Mike Dawson pretty much
fell out of the passenger seat and got up and
got his composure and he goes maintained and you were like, hey, Vinnie,
and I looked at and say, oh my god, it's Izzy,
and I'm like looking at it, going, these guys have
been it's two in the afternoon. They partied all night
and now the party. Yeah you know that song. I
want a rock and roll all night and party every Yeah,
you guys are living it right and I was like
looking at that going, I just want like one week
of being those guys in my life and just do
what they're doing, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you realize that there was a Dell Top
Taco stop on the way because Dawson was walking in
with his del Taco bags like you say, you see
you there.
Speaker 2: I'm like, great day to do that, brother. But you
guys are so rock and rolling. I love it to death.
I love both of you, so don't have us. We
love you too. We love you too.
Speaker 3: And of course you guys can also check out his website,
Vinnietortons dot com that is with the why not the
Whippy why the I E I E I E not
the whimpy Why? Sorry, I was I was having a
brain fart at the moment.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Check him out Vinnie Tortore. Check out the movie Dirty Keto.
Thank you again, Vinnie, and we will talk to you soon.
I tried to oh, sorry.
Speaker 4: Do do do do do? Do? Do do do?
Speaker 2: I tried to do this at the end of the interview,
and he.
Speaker 3: Still had a couple of minutes left, so uh, he
kind of cut off my outro, which is fine, So
I'm doing it right. Now, thank you, Vinny Torterich. Always
great to see it. Of course, the movie is Dirty
Keto and that is exclusively on Amazon as we speak.
Speaker 2: I hope you go and watch it. I hope you.
Speaker 3: Uh let me know what you thought, and I will
hopefully see you next week with another show. Of course,
next week I do have the Mountain Music Festival and
that is going to be a glorious, glorious, glorious time.
And you'll find out if I had to go to
Jerry duty or not. I find out Thursday morning. But
let's just say somebody told me how to get out
of it, and it's legit.
Speaker 2: It's not a goof. If you are in Vegas this
weekend Friday Night.
Speaker 3: Counts Vamped Danny the Kult Coker and his band Counts
seventy seven doing a tribute to the King because it.
Speaker 4: Is Elvis week.
Speaker 2: Baby, we will see you hopefully next week. My name
is Izzy Presley. What I lack in talent? Make up
for the cock