1 00:00:24,039 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: And welcome to the Big Podcast. How are you happy Monday? 2 00:00:27,519 --> 00:00:32,240 To you today, the twenty third day of June, year 3 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,159 of our low twenty twenty five. My name is Tom Sullivan. 4 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,119 So as we gather around anything happened over the weekend, 5 00:00:40,399 --> 00:00:45,520 I missed something. Yeah, I know what happened to the 6 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,719 two weeks. So that's the president, that's what he does. 7 00:00:49,799 --> 00:00:54,880 He basically was faking out the world when he said 8 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:56,560 he was going to give them two weeks and he 9 00:00:57,039 --> 00:01:02,479 decided to go in and drop the Bunker Busters supposedly, 10 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,400 which that's why I want to get into today. We 11 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,959 got a lot of reaction from a lot of different 12 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,879 people about what happened over the weekend, what happened Saturday 13 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:16,879 evening our time, and your reaction is welcome. Is I'll 14 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,359 remind you again that we'll love to take your phone calls. 15 00:01:20,359 --> 00:01:23,280 We can't take them live, but if you give the 16 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:27,280 phone number a call, it's basically the comment line and 17 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,000 we'll go through and play a number of them as 18 00:01:30,079 --> 00:01:31,920 we go through the week. The phone number here is 19 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:37,400 eight five five two nine five sixty six hundred eight 20 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,760 five five two nine five sixty six hundred. You can 21 00:01:41,799 --> 00:01:45,760 find that phone number and the links to the podcast 22 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,760 on my website, which is simply my name Tom Sullivan 23 00:01:49,799 --> 00:01:53,959 dot com. So, uh, the military strike took place, and 24 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,760 I mean, there's just there's so many different ways to 25 00:01:57,879 --> 00:02:01,840 look at this. I've seen the photos, You've seen the photos. 26 00:02:03,079 --> 00:02:08,000 I'm not quite sure what the photos mean. We really 27 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:12,479 don't know about the fact. In fact, a number of 28 00:02:12,479 --> 00:02:16,960 officials are basically conceding the fact they don't know the 29 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:22,199 fate of Iran's nuclear or i should say uranium stockpile. 30 00:02:23,479 --> 00:02:29,319 We know that they have been rapidly enriching uranium and 31 00:02:29,879 --> 00:02:32,439 they have enough for many, many bombs. So think about it. 32 00:02:32,439 --> 00:02:38,479 It's not lineal, it's logarithmic. The fact that sixty percent enrichment. 33 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,639 First of all, they shouldn't be enriching any If you 34 00:02:41,719 --> 00:02:44,280 don't want to build a nuclear weapon, then you don't 35 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,240 enrich what. You don't enrich your uranium. But there is 36 00:02:47,319 --> 00:02:52,120 sixty percent. But the IAEA inspector the other day we 37 00:02:52,199 --> 00:02:56,080 played for you, he said it would take probably two 38 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:01,159 days to make it weapons grade from sixty to ninety. 39 00:03:01,879 --> 00:03:05,360 And the question then is where is all of that? 40 00:03:05,439 --> 00:03:09,719 Because everybody was focusing on Fordoh, and we bombed the 41 00:03:09,719 --> 00:03:15,280 Bajibs out of Floridah, but was the was there a 42 00:03:15,319 --> 00:03:17,800 lot going on in Florida. We don't even know if 43 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,159 we've damaged Florida. We know thatot I know. I look 44 00:03:21,199 --> 00:03:23,759 at the photograph too, and there's a couple of little 45 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,800 tiny holes there that weren't there before. But we don't 46 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,000 know what's going on down under the earth, and that 47 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:39,639 will take some time. Some of the people commenting, we'll say, well, well, 48 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:42,759 we sent those big bombs in there, and we sent 49 00:03:42,879 --> 00:03:45,960 in a number of them. Let me look up my 50 00:03:46,479 --> 00:03:49,520 little cheat sheet here about the number of bombs that 51 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:54,479 we had. The full payload of bombs was dropped. According 52 00:03:54,520 --> 00:04:00,199 to the President, there were seventy five precision guided weapons, 53 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:09,759 twenty four Tomahawk cruise missiles, fourteen well buster, yeah, the 54 00:04:09,759 --> 00:04:14,400 bunker busters fourteen they call them ordnance penetrators. There were 55 00:04:14,599 --> 00:04:19,399 seven B two bombers. That was a great fake up 56 00:04:19,519 --> 00:04:22,240 because they had a bunch of them going on Saturday, 57 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:27,839 going out over the Pacific heading toward Guam, and that 58 00:04:28,079 --> 00:04:31,199 was the big news report. Well, they did have a 59 00:04:31,319 --> 00:04:33,120 number of them go I think there was something like 60 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:37,560 nine that went west and they're still there. And the 61 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,079 question is are they basically going to keep them in 62 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,079 Guam for a while to basically be a backup. But 63 00:04:43,439 --> 00:04:47,199 the seven that went east and out over the Atlantic 64 00:04:47,319 --> 00:04:51,199 and over Europe and then finally over the target, it 65 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:55,920 was an eighteen hour flight. Now, I don't know about you, 66 00:04:56,079 --> 00:04:59,079 but I think of anything more than five hours drives 67 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:03,439 me crazy. Eighteen hours and they had to refuel, which 68 00:05:03,519 --> 00:05:08,160 is very, very tricky, and they had these heavy bombs 69 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:15,040 on board. I mean, what military mission that never been 70 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,360 done before, and the bomb has never been used before, 71 00:05:18,959 --> 00:05:23,160 and so this was all first time stuff that they did. 72 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:27,360 One hundred and twenty five aircraft plus there were some 73 00:05:27,399 --> 00:05:35,120 submarines involved. Yeah, seven B twos going east, nine B 74 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:40,040 twos going west. Pretty amazing to say the very least. 75 00:05:40,319 --> 00:05:42,680 But with all of that, we still don't know what's 76 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,160 going on down underneath the earth. Now. Some people have 77 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,399 speculated that, well, the Iranians moved a lot of their 78 00:05:49,399 --> 00:05:55,279 enriched uranium. I doubt that is. I doubt that's likely 79 00:05:55,360 --> 00:06:00,439 because we have, obviously our satellites, have our spy settlites, 80 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,800 the ones that can read a license plate, have been 81 00:06:03,879 --> 00:06:08,959 watching those sites very carefully for quite some time. And 82 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,759 if they moved anything out of those storage areas, I 83 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,279 would be shocked. And if they moved them, we probably 84 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,160 know where they moved them to. So we did hit 85 00:06:19,199 --> 00:06:24,000 a number of sites, but it was it was interesting, 86 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:29,399 the fact, militarily at a level I've never imagined. So 87 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,240 they did their eighteen hour flight, took care of they 88 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,120 were over the target site for about twenty minutes, and 89 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:42,199 then headed back home, back to Missouri. So they went 90 00:06:42,199 --> 00:06:45,800 from the midwest of this country to the Mideast, dropped 91 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,720 their bombs, and then flew all the way back. 92 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 2: And I. 93 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: Commend them tremendously on all of this. So as far 94 00:06:54,319 --> 00:06:57,959 as the reaction goes, I'm not sure if the photo 95 00:06:58,079 --> 00:07:04,920 evidence really convinces you of anything. It doesn't me. I mean, 96 00:07:04,959 --> 00:07:07,279 you have to put some faith in the fact that 97 00:07:07,319 --> 00:07:12,160 we did damage their property. But we'll see. 98 00:07:12,399 --> 00:07:12,519 Speaker 3: Uh. 99 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: The Israelis today were pounding away on a variety of 100 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,120 different sides. They're still shooting missiles. They went after they went, 101 00:07:22,279 --> 00:07:26,160 they went after a prison, the Evan prison, And apparently 102 00:07:26,199 --> 00:07:29,439 the Evan prison is where they hold a lot of 103 00:07:29,439 --> 00:07:34,480 the political prisoners, and the idea behind that is to 104 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,639 blow the walls so that the prisoners can be released 105 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,680 from the prison. Don't know if they have how many 106 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,680 security guards there to keep them from leaving, but if 107 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,720 they're able to leave, the theory there is that these 108 00:07:47,759 --> 00:07:50,839 are political prisoners and they will be the ones to 109 00:07:50,959 --> 00:07:55,000 try to get an upheaval going in Iran to try 110 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:59,079 to overthrow the regime. So that's where the political prisoners are. 111 00:07:59,720 --> 00:07:59,879 Speaker 4: Uh. 112 00:08:00,519 --> 00:08:04,399 Speaker 1: They're also blasting a number of airports around Iran because 113 00:08:04,399 --> 00:08:07,879 a lot of the airports in Iran are joint commercial 114 00:08:07,959 --> 00:08:14,639 slash military airports. They're hitting a university should it Beheshi 115 00:08:14,759 --> 00:08:21,000 University where apparently that is where the professors, scientists, professors 116 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,639 and students, so to try to basically make it so 117 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:30,279 that if the regime tries to rebuild the people that hurt. 118 00:08:30,319 --> 00:08:32,679 A lot of people commenting today about the fact that well, 119 00:08:32,759 --> 00:08:35,960 you can't vomb it out of their brains, Actually you can. 120 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,120 You can kill the people that have it in their brains, 121 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,679 and it looks like that's kind of what they're doing. 122 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:46,759 And Irani an official met with Vladimir Putin in Moscow today, 123 00:08:47,399 --> 00:08:51,039 obviously going over there to figure out if Russia can 124 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:58,440 help them out. The IAEA. They're the ones that inspect 125 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,519 all of these nuke sites. They are not sure where 126 00:09:02,639 --> 00:09:06,919 Iran has stockpiled all of their enriched uranium. Now again, 127 00:09:07,159 --> 00:09:10,240 I doubt that they've moved it without us knowing, but 128 00:09:10,399 --> 00:09:13,320 we don't know all the different sites where apparently they 129 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:17,440 may be. So let's go through some of the reactions 130 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,159 that we have, creative our moves. We'll get to that 131 00:09:20,399 --> 00:09:23,879 and the price of oil. Fascinating because the price of 132 00:09:23,919 --> 00:09:28,120 oil went up on this news on Saturday evening and 133 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:32,720 basically has come back down again. Then we'll get into 134 00:09:32,759 --> 00:09:35,440 all of that. Bitcoin fell a little bit and then 135 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,279 went back up to where it was gold very little change. 136 00:09:38,639 --> 00:09:41,600 So the financial markets around the around the world are 137 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,919 not yawning, but they're not panicking. That is foreshore. So 138 00:09:47,039 --> 00:09:50,759 let's start off today. Who do we have up first 139 00:09:50,799 --> 00:09:56,399 here today? Let's start up with the oh A Senator 140 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:02,120 Fetterman from Pennsylvania. He is coming more and more Republican 141 00:10:02,159 --> 00:10:03,759 every single day. Here's John Fetterman. 142 00:10:04,799 --> 00:10:07,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I mean for me, I'm sure. 143 00:10:07,399 --> 00:10:08,879 Speaker 5: I mean there's going to be a lot of people 144 00:10:08,879 --> 00:10:11,320 in my party they're going to disagree with the strike 145 00:10:11,399 --> 00:10:14,440 with and Iran, and I actually support that. I've been 146 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,279 always calling for that thing. I think it was entirely appropriate, 147 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,720 and again there might be votes on that. So so 148 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,279 for me, that's not a war. That was a very 149 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:27,320 limited military exercise and it struck that and then that's 150 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:31,039 where we're at. So so really it really wasn't about 151 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,679 unstack consecutional or it's anything like that. It was like 152 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,840 a very very limited military engagement and then it took 153 00:10:39,879 --> 00:10:43,799 them out, damaged them severely. I mean, of course, no, 154 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,080 she knows it, I know it, we all know it. 155 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,720 That's not going anywhere. And you know he's been in 156 00:10:49,879 --> 00:10:53,000 peach twice and now he's still our president as well 157 00:10:53,039 --> 00:10:55,679 now too, so it's not going anywhere. And I don't 158 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,200 think that's helpful. And I think if you throw that 159 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:02,159 term around that actually diminish is what the severity of 160 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:06,399 what impeachment is really reserved for Sometimes I'm like a 161 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:10,120 decision that President Trump did is like maybe like reflexively 162 00:11:10,159 --> 00:11:12,440 you have to be opposed that. For me, again, I've 163 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,320 been always calling to destroy these nuclear facilities. Now let's 164 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,720 talk about the context in the middle of all that 165 00:11:18,799 --> 00:11:23,120 now too. Now, our party has been often wrong and 166 00:11:23,159 --> 00:11:26,519 they were pushing for a ceasefire last year and now 167 00:11:26,759 --> 00:11:31,200 Israel pushed through that and has broken Hamas and Hezbollah 168 00:11:31,279 --> 00:11:33,960 as well now too. And now here it is right now, 169 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:38,759 Israel has air supremacy over Iraq right now, and now 170 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:40,879 here's where I rack, I mean, excuse me where I 171 00:11:40,919 --> 00:11:45,000 am is right now? Their capabilities are severely limited. And 172 00:11:45,039 --> 00:11:48,159 now that was an entirely appropriate to finally take out 173 00:11:48,159 --> 00:11:51,639 those nuclear facilities. I mean, I've kept the hostages up 174 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,159 in my office ever since they've been taken there as well. 175 00:11:54,399 --> 00:11:57,440 I've had the honor of meeting with countless families and 176 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,879 actual hostages as well too, that have been held underground 177 00:12:00,879 --> 00:12:04,279 for over five hundred days. The world seems to forgot them, 178 00:12:04,279 --> 00:12:06,159 but I certainly haven't, and a lot of people in 179 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,399 Israel have and is will too. Let's bring them home 180 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,720 and let's hold Hamas accountable, and now let's never forget too. 181 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,759 Send them home and disarm, and all of the tragedy 182 00:12:17,799 --> 00:12:21,080 in Gaza would be over hold them accountable. Why won't 183 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:25,039 the media and more people hold Hamas accountable for what 184 00:12:25,039 --> 00:12:27,879 they've done and as well as Iran as well too. 185 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,679 They're the ones that created those proxies, and that's also 186 00:12:31,879 --> 00:12:34,679 part of why it was entirely appropriate to take out 187 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,240 their nuclear facilities. And that's why I'm going to unapologetically 188 00:12:38,279 --> 00:12:41,879 stand with israel I. Don't pull test that it's for me. 189 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,480 It's like, I'm going to stand on what I know 190 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,399 is the right thing and what's the truth. 191 00:12:46,159 --> 00:12:48,279 Speaker 1: That I've been talking a little bit about the hostages 192 00:12:48,279 --> 00:12:51,080 that are being held in Gaza and one other item. 193 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,120 It kind of got buried because of all the war news, 194 00:12:53,159 --> 00:12:57,039 but they did really well. They didn't release the Israeli 195 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:02,000 defense forces found three of the hostel stages bodies. They 196 00:13:02,039 --> 00:13:07,200 were dead deceased, and so three more have come out, 197 00:13:07,639 --> 00:13:13,200 but they are being returned to their families. Deceased hostages 198 00:13:13,919 --> 00:13:20,799 from Gazam And now to the military analysis of what happened, 199 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:22,279 General Jack keene We was in. 200 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:24,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really quite stunning. 201 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,519 Speaker 3: And as time moves on, we have a tendency to 202 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,360 forget what the realities of history. The regime took over 203 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:38,240 in nineteen eighty Athletic Revolution in nineteen seventy nine, and 204 00:13:38,279 --> 00:13:41,720 in nineteen eighty three they blew up two of our embassies, 205 00:13:41,759 --> 00:13:45,720 one in Lebanon, one in Kuwait. And when folks moved 206 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,679 out of the US embassy in Lebanon, they blew up 207 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,759 the annex. They also took down the marine barracks there. 208 00:13:51,799 --> 00:13:55,120 Two hundred and forty one marines killed then. And then 209 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,320 they also blew up Air force barracks in Saudi Arabia 210 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,559 in the nineties. And then as we moved into the 211 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:07,399 war in Irat, the Iranians developed put together the scientists 212 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,440 that engineers an advanced ied that could take down anything 213 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,039 on the battlefield. Up to that point, people were putting 214 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,960 mortar rounds and artillery rounds buried them in the ground. 215 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,919 A vehicle comes by, remotely blow that vehicle up. This 216 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,759 would penetrate from the side. It took down scores of tanks, 217 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:29,399 scores of valley vehicles, all with soldiers in him. It 218 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:33,480 was a remarkable weapon, and they instructed the militias do 219 00:14:33,639 --> 00:14:37,120 not shoot these at Iraqi security forces so many wastes 220 00:14:37,159 --> 00:14:40,679 among civilians. These are only for Americans that go after 221 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,720 the biggest vehicles, because that will intimidate the Americans. I 222 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,879 was taken to a boneyard by a brigade commander when 223 00:14:47,879 --> 00:14:51,159 I was assistant portray us during the surge period in 224 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,360 two thousand and seven, and he showed me scores of 225 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,679 tanks and valley vehicles that have been destroyed. The official 226 00:14:58,759 --> 00:15:01,639 count a number of American's dead as a resulted at 227 00:15:01,759 --> 00:15:05,200 six three. I asked General Austin, he was the last 228 00:15:05,279 --> 00:15:09,799 four star commander. We spent years together at Fort Bragg, 229 00:15:10,559 --> 00:15:12,960 and he said, well, he said, I know what the 230 00:15:13,039 --> 00:15:15,840 numbers are, but in my judgment, looking at this, it's 231 00:15:15,919 --> 00:15:18,720 much closer to two thousand. So we add all what 232 00:15:18,799 --> 00:15:20,960 I just said to you in a two thousand. He claims, 233 00:15:21,039 --> 00:15:24,960 that's right up where the World Trade Center. And what 234 00:15:25,039 --> 00:15:27,200 took place in the Pentagon is they have been killing 235 00:15:27,279 --> 00:15:30,159 us for years. They took us hostage for a period 236 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,200 of almost ten years, and they killed the CIA station 237 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:37,039 chief at Elebanon as well. And listen, during the last 238 00:15:37,039 --> 00:15:41,360 four years under the Biden administration, in our bases in 239 00:15:41,399 --> 00:15:44,159 Iraq and Syria, they attacked us no less than three 240 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:49,080 one hundred and fifty times. Corilla, who is the commander 241 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:53,639 then and the commander now, who organized this strike, recommended 242 00:15:53,639 --> 00:15:57,000 to the Biden administration, we're shooting back at the militias, 243 00:15:57,039 --> 00:15:59,639 but to stop this, we have to shoot back in Iran. 244 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,279 He provided them one hundred and twenty targets only military 245 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:07,480 no economic, no engineer, no nuclear, and they rejected all 246 00:16:07,519 --> 00:16:09,600 of it. We never did it, and we never took 247 00:16:09,639 --> 00:16:13,320 on the Houthis by going after Iran, and the president 248 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,240 walks out of office with three hundred and fifty attacks 249 00:16:16,919 --> 00:16:21,679 taking place and no response to Houthi's taking control of 250 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:25,159 the Suez Canal in a red sea and no response 251 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,960 to stop them. The Israelis knocked out the advanced S 252 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,639 three hundred and S four hundreds from Russia, and Russia 253 00:16:32,639 --> 00:16:36,279 does very good missile defense systems on a parallel to us, 254 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,000 and they took care of that in October, and then 255 00:16:40,039 --> 00:16:42,279 they came back as a result of the initial stage 256 00:16:42,279 --> 00:16:44,799 of the Operation AVO about business the same way we do. 257 00:16:44,919 --> 00:16:46,440 The first thing we do we're going to deal with 258 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,159 a country, a nation state, is to bring down their 259 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,159 air defense systems. We don't bring anything else in until 260 00:16:52,159 --> 00:16:56,440 we've done that. They took down the remaining seventy air 261 00:16:56,519 --> 00:16:58,759 defense batteries that existed, all. 262 00:17:00,159 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 2: Of them. That is why no shot was fired. 263 00:17:03,159 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 3: Now that the B two's, they obviously are stealth bombers, 264 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,599 and we have stealth fighters participating in that, and they 265 00:17:11,839 --> 00:17:14,559 would likely not be detected in any event. But what 266 00:17:14,599 --> 00:17:18,039 the Israelis did deserve huge amount of credit. I think, 267 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,160 you know, whether this ends at the negotiating table on 268 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,720 a battlefield remains to be seen. I think the Iranians 269 00:17:23,759 --> 00:17:26,200 have their own time schedule, and they've proven that to 270 00:17:26,319 --> 00:17:30,240 us in the past. I think what the outcome is 271 00:17:30,279 --> 00:17:32,720 that the nuclear sites, all twelve of them are particularly 272 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,240 the ones in question here that we're involved in, will 273 00:17:35,279 --> 00:17:38,119 be a factor in what they're going to do. But 274 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,599 I think that, you know, the first choice is President 275 00:17:40,599 --> 00:17:42,200 Trump is offered it to them that they comes to 276 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,359 the negotiating table and try to work something out with US, 277 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:49,279 which would be full dismantling of nuclear ballistic missiles. I 278 00:17:49,319 --> 00:17:52,920 think National Security team would also put down on a table, 279 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,720 look at supporting proxies is over. We're not putting up 280 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,039 with this anymore. Your malign aggressive behavior the region is over. 281 00:18:00,279 --> 00:18:02,599 We go to a cease fire and remove sanctions. The 282 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,599 second thing is they have the choice just to continue 283 00:18:05,599 --> 00:18:08,799 what they're doing against Israel. No attacks on the United States. 284 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:13,200 That's a possibility, I think it's unlikely. The third thing 285 00:18:13,319 --> 00:18:16,599 is a symbolic response limited kind of like they did 286 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:21,079 have to custom solo money limited. Very good targets from 287 00:18:21,079 --> 00:18:24,440 their perspective, is a rock Because they're so close to 288 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,079 it and they have sheeld militia, it can move missiles 289 00:18:27,079 --> 00:18:29,680 and rockets into the country and not be detected. They 290 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,359 may fire some of their own They would do that 291 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,440 symbolically to demonstrate to some of their own people that 292 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:40,160 they're handling this problem, that they are seeking retribution for 293 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:44,160 the humiliation that they suffered. But there is deep humiliation 294 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,759 and there's deep division on what has happened here, and 295 00:18:47,839 --> 00:18:51,440 many of the people in the power structure are frustrated 296 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,799 by the fact that they've lost all of their air 297 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,640 defense systems, that their military sites have been destroyed, and 298 00:18:58,759 --> 00:19:01,079 most of all their nuclear sites. 299 00:19:01,279 --> 00:19:03,079 Speaker 2: There's a huge amount of frustration. 300 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:07,559 Speaker 3: So does that drive an unrestrained, consequential attack because of 301 00:19:07,599 --> 00:19:11,640 that passion and because of that zelotry. That's certainly as possible, 302 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,519 and that is what we are regarding ourselves against the 303 00:19:14,559 --> 00:19:19,160 most US bases, other assets in the region, possibly something 304 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,160 in the homeland, but I think our guys will be 305 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,720 on top of that in terms of kind of intelligence. 306 00:19:23,759 --> 00:19:26,400 Those are kind of the options that they have available, 307 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,799 and if they hurt us, whether it's a symbolic attack 308 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:34,359 or a major attack. The Trump administration has told them 309 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,759 specifically what the consequences are and they will be held accountable. 310 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,839 Speaker 1: So there was some retaliation later today in the afternoon 311 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:49,039 where Iran had fired some missiles ten missiles at the 312 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,359 Qatar at a base that we have in Qatar in 313 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,359 a very rural area. Guitar is a small country, but 314 00:19:55,759 --> 00:19:59,559 the base that they have is rather remote and it 315 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,759 did not do any damage. And now the word is 316 00:20:01,799 --> 00:20:05,640 coming in that they actually notified Katar and said we're sorry, 317 00:20:05,759 --> 00:20:09,039 we have to do this. We're not going to actually 318 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,359 hit anything, but we had to throw the missiles your 319 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:16,319 way because the American base there, and they also fired 320 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,039 one missile toward one of our bases in i Rock. 321 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,799 So it was at least at this point it was 322 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:28,640 a symbolic response, just to show their people that they 323 00:20:28,839 --> 00:20:33,559 are doing something. So since we're talking about basically warhawks, 324 00:20:33,599 --> 00:20:37,039 generals and people that are in the military, this is 325 00:20:37,039 --> 00:20:41,160 their business. John Bolton has always been known as a hawk, 326 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,200 and he piped in today with his reaction to the 327 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:46,880 events that took place over the weekend. 328 00:20:47,799 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 4: I don't think we know, although I think there are 329 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,279 a lot of alarmist predictions out there about how far 330 00:20:53,319 --> 00:20:56,680 they're going to go if they attack American forces, American 331 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:01,559 civilian personnel carry out terrorist operation to any American president, 332 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,480 including Donald Trump, would have to respond very forcefully. And 333 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,640 I think this is a question inside topped Iranian decision 334 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:13,119 making circles. You know, they've had one military enemy since 335 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,480 October the seventh and the mass attacks on Israel. It's 336 00:21:16,519 --> 00:21:19,440 not going well for Iran. Do they really want to 337 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,160 come after the United States and have not just two 338 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,799 military enemies, but the biggest military enemy they're ever going 339 00:21:25,839 --> 00:21:26,240 to face. 340 00:21:26,599 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 2: Maybe they will. 341 00:21:27,319 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 4: We'll see other things people have talked about, like closing 342 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:34,359 the Strait of Hormuz and preventing oil and gas exports 343 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,759 from the Gulf. That it's possible that they would try that. 344 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,079 There'd be one country that would be really upset by 345 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,839 closing off those exports, and that would be one of 346 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,839 Iran's only friends in the world, China, which depends on 347 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,119 oil and gas from the Middle East critically. So I 348 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,640 think Iran's got a tough decision. I think the notion 349 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,119 that they would come back and negotiate. 350 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 2: Seriously is illusory. 351 00:21:58,079 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 4: They have used negotiations for thirty plus years to beguile 352 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,559 the West to drag out their program is simply a 353 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,920 ruse for them to buy more time. So look, they 354 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,559 didn't accomplish everything in one night. What a surprise. There's 355 00:22:14,559 --> 00:22:16,920 still a lot to do. But this is the right thing. 356 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,680 And the next step, as you also asked about, is 357 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,599 regime change, and I note that President Trump is moving 358 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,119 apparently in the right direction on that too, given his 359 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,000 latest tweet. I don't think you need boots on the ground, 360 00:22:29,079 --> 00:22:31,319 but I think there is a critical element here. Many 361 00:22:31,319 --> 00:22:35,079 of the opponents of this bombing campaign have said, you know, 362 00:22:35,279 --> 00:22:40,000 you can destroy all of the facilities physically, but you 363 00:22:40,079 --> 00:22:44,279 can't destroy the knowledge that Iran's nuclear scientists and technicians 364 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:48,160 have to recreate the program. That's absolutely correct, and that 365 00:22:48,319 --> 00:22:52,960 was precisely what the Bush administration had in mind, given 366 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:57,519 that Saddam Hussein had held together three thousand nuclear scientists 367 00:22:57,559 --> 00:23:01,319 and technicians he called his nuclear mujahide who, once he 368 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,920 was free of UN economic sanctions, once he was free 369 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,680 of UN weapons inspectors, would have permitted him to go 370 00:23:07,799 --> 00:23:10,799 back to developing nuclear weapons, which he'd been trying to 371 00:23:10,839 --> 00:23:15,559 do for well over twenty five years. I think the 372 00:23:15,839 --> 00:23:19,039 Iranian situation is very different. I think the people of 373 00:23:19,079 --> 00:23:22,839 Iran are as dissatisfied with the current government as they've 374 00:23:22,839 --> 00:23:26,279 ever been since the Islamic Revolution of nineteen seventy nine. 375 00:23:26,519 --> 00:23:29,559 And hopefully these strikes on the nuclear program, along with 376 00:23:29,599 --> 00:23:33,319 everything else that Israel has been doing for the past week, 377 00:23:34,039 --> 00:23:38,480 is sufficiently destabilizing that we'll see fragmentation at the top 378 00:23:38,519 --> 00:23:39,160 of the regime. 379 00:23:40,319 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, here's one. 380 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:46,319 Speaker 4: Known about Libya no longer has a nuclear weapons program. Look, 381 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,720 level of dissatisfaction across Iran is really pretty incredible on 382 00:23:50,839 --> 00:23:54,799 many different levels. Since twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen, when 383 00:23:54,839 --> 00:23:58,920 there were riots over economic conditions that were brutally put down, 384 00:23:59,279 --> 00:24:04,119 the economy has not materially improved since then. The dissatisfaction 385 00:24:05,039 --> 00:24:10,000 is still there. Young people, something like sixty percent of 386 00:24:10,039 --> 00:24:12,720 the population is under thirty, know they could have a 387 00:24:12,759 --> 00:24:14,039 different way of life. 388 00:24:14,079 --> 00:24:16,599 Speaker 2: They can see it across the Gulf in Dubai and 389 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:17,960 Abu Dhabi and Doha. 390 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 4: The ethnic groups large ethnic groups a Zaris, Kurds, Baluchis, Arabs, 391 00:24:24,839 --> 00:24:28,119 comprising between forty and fifty percent of the total population 392 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:32,000 depending on your estimates. Don't like the Ayatolas, and two 393 00:24:32,079 --> 00:24:37,200 years ago the Masiamini murder by the authorities, young Kurdish 394 00:24:37,279 --> 00:24:41,119 woman who wasn't conforming to the religious dress codes, brought 395 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,160 young people and women out all over the country against 396 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:48,119 the regime, a fundamental challenge to the regime's legitimacy, not 397 00:24:48,559 --> 00:24:51,240 just to complain about having to wear the hajab, but 398 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,119 saying the Ayatolas do not speak the word of God, 399 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,240 which threatens the regime. All of that still exists, and 400 00:24:58,319 --> 00:25:02,839 now they see their terrorist proxies in ashes. The Aside 401 00:25:02,839 --> 00:25:06,640 regime in Syria has fallen. The nuclear and ballistic missile 402 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:11,519 programs are being systematically destroyed, uncounted billions of dollars sped 403 00:25:11,519 --> 00:25:14,279 over decades. What has that done for the people of Iran? 404 00:25:14,759 --> 00:25:17,960 That's why fragmentation at the top. If you break the 405 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,720 control of the government, it may lead to to a 406 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,440 very very difficult situation. But I think the government could fall. 407 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,279 Maybe it will have to wait until the Iahtolahamed. He dies. 408 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:32,000 He's only the second supreme leader in Iranian history. He's 409 00:25:32,039 --> 00:25:34,680 eighty five plus years old, he's sick, and he's been 410 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,519 in power for thirty six years. They have no clear 411 00:25:37,599 --> 00:25:42,319 succession mechanism this is a very unstable, unpopular regime. 412 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: I played for you a couple of minutes ago the 413 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:50,960 comments of Senator John Fetterman. There's another Democrat that has 414 00:25:51,039 --> 00:25:55,359 been at high levels of various administrations, Leon Panette. He 415 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,920 was a Defense secretary, he was the head of the CIA. 416 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:05,160 He's a very bright man, democrat retired, and this is 417 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:09,799 his observation about the fact that Donald Trump pulled the 418 00:26:09,839 --> 00:26:13,640 trigger and went after the nuclear facilities in Iran. 419 00:26:15,519 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 6: Well, first of all, as a former secretary of Defense, 420 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,680 whether one is four or against, these attacks, they were 421 00:26:23,759 --> 00:26:29,160 conducted with great precision and great planning by our military 422 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:35,160 to really place our bombers in place over thousands of miles, 423 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,640 our ships, our subs or pilots, and be able to 424 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,640 get everything in place in order to conduct very precise 425 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:47,440 attacks on three targets, which they did. I think is 426 00:26:47,519 --> 00:26:51,039 a tribute to the United States military. And I'm proud 427 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,160 of our men and women in uniform and the way 428 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,960 they did this attack. The questions. 429 00:26:59,039 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 3: Secretary, excuse me for interrupting, but do you think President 430 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,079 Trump made the right call? 431 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,599 Speaker 6: I think we have made very clear that the United 432 00:27:11,599 --> 00:27:15,240 States would not allow Iran to develop a nuclear weapon. 433 00:27:16,279 --> 00:27:18,640 I think there was an effort to try to negotiate, 434 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,440 but I think the bottom line was that Iran was 435 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,559 not interested in negotiating and willing to do anything to 436 00:27:25,599 --> 00:27:30,200 stop their enrichment and bomb capability, and so I don't 437 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:34,240 think the United States had any alternative but to conduct 438 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,440 this type of attack. But as always, the question is 439 00:27:37,559 --> 00:27:41,880 what is the endgame? And that is I hope something 440 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,599 that the President and his national security team have thought about, 441 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:52,000 because if this only results in a prolonged war in 442 00:27:52,039 --> 00:27:59,440 which the regime continues its effort to use the enrichment 443 00:27:59,519 --> 00:28:02,279 that it does have, and that's something I think we 444 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,720 need to understand. That they have a large quantity of 445 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:11,119 enriched fuel that is still ready to go, and if 446 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,839 they continue to proceed, even though it may be over 447 00:28:13,839 --> 00:28:17,880 the long term, it raises a real question about what 448 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,559 should the United States and Israel do to make sure 449 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,559 that doesn't happen. That is not an easy challenge to 450 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,640 overcome by either the United States or Israel unless they're 451 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,400 willing to put boots on the ground, and I don't 452 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,200 think that's something either one wants to do. I think 453 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:43,039 their military capability has been greatly weakened. You know Israel 454 00:28:43,079 --> 00:28:48,000 deserves credit for having weakened Hamas, weakened Hesbelah, and now 455 00:28:48,079 --> 00:28:51,920 weakened Iran, and so there are a lot of questions 456 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,319 about just exactly what their capability is going to be. 457 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:01,880 But the real issue here will is whether or not 458 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,480 the regime is going to continue, And as far as 459 00:29:05,519 --> 00:29:08,720 I can see, even though with these attacks, it's clear 460 00:29:08,759 --> 00:29:15,960 that the regime will continue and they will use whatever 461 00:29:16,119 --> 00:29:21,839 capabilities they have in order to make sure that they 462 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,920 are now going to proceed, I think with their nuclear ambition, 463 00:29:26,119 --> 00:29:30,480 that's a concern. That's a concern. Will they negotiate now, 464 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,319 I don't think so. They have every reason to basically 465 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,039 continue to do what they were trying to do before, 466 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,160 and so that reasons a real question. What will the 467 00:29:41,279 --> 00:29:46,000 United States and Israel do to make very clear that 468 00:29:46,039 --> 00:29:50,359 Iran does not have the enrichment capability or the bomb 469 00:29:50,359 --> 00:29:54,000 making ability that this was all about. I don't think 470 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:58,279 there's any question that this is a watershed moment for 471 00:29:58,359 --> 00:30:01,799 the United States and the Middle East. We have now 472 00:30:02,119 --> 00:30:06,920 engaged militarily with Israel in going after Iran. 473 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 2: We are now. 474 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:18,119 Speaker 6: Basically fighting this war together, and that means that the 475 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,039 United States and Israel are going to have to continue 476 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,759 to put pressure on Iran through attacks in the future, 477 00:30:26,839 --> 00:30:31,200 because if Iran does not agree to negotiation, the United 478 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,200 States and Israel have no other choice but to continue 479 00:30:35,519 --> 00:30:40,079 what will be a prolonged Middle East war, something that 480 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,960 I think Trump had promised we would never be engaged in. 481 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,200 I would think the objective of the visit is to 482 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:56,200 try to determine whether Putin will continue to provide support 483 00:30:56,279 --> 00:31:01,599 to Iran. Just as Iran provided support to Putin in Ukraine, 484 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,359 they are now there to basically cash in with the 485 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,359 Russians to try to get the weapons and equipment and 486 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,119 drones that they're going to need if they're going to 487 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,559 try to conduct any kind of retaliation. I think that's 488 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:18,839 what this meeting is about. 489 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:24,279 Speaker 1: So this may not be over and we'll find out 490 00:31:24,359 --> 00:31:27,400 what the meeting with Russia is all about today, whether 491 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,839 they come to their aid that they give them more weapons, 492 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,680 if the regime is going to stay in power. There's 493 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,079 a lot of what IF's out there. I always like 494 00:31:36,119 --> 00:31:43,279 to get the view from Peter. Peter was one of 495 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:48,480 two Americans that interviewed Osama bin Laden. John Miller was 496 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,920 one when he was with ABC News and Peter Bergen, 497 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:58,079 and Peter is a Mid East expert, especially regarding the 498 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,839 various terrorist groups and everything else. This is his response 499 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:07,319 to the first effort at retaliation by Iran where they 500 00:32:07,359 --> 00:32:12,440 sent ten missiles towards Qatar, toward the military base that 501 00:32:12,519 --> 00:32:13,720 we have in that country. 502 00:32:14,519 --> 00:32:17,079 Speaker 7: Well, first of all, this Cutter is a small country, 503 00:32:17,519 --> 00:32:20,119 but this base is in a very remote part of 504 00:32:19,599 --> 00:32:23,200 the country. It's a big basis the biggest US base 505 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,640 in the Middle East. It's up to ten thousand service 506 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,000 members can live there. You know, this is where the 507 00:32:29,039 --> 00:32:31,720 war against ISIS was conducted. This is where the war 508 00:32:31,759 --> 00:32:35,079 in Iraq was sort of conducted because it's the forward 509 00:32:35,119 --> 00:32:38,160 headquarters of Central Command. This is where the Afghan war 510 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,799 was conducted and also the withdrawal. But it is, as say, 511 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,119 very isolated. On the other hand, there are a lot 512 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,559 of American service members who are generally speaking living there. 513 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,440 It's also interesting Cutter in Iran shared the world's largest 514 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,519 gas field, and you could see from the Qatari government responses, 515 00:32:56,559 --> 00:33:00,000 I mean they're not thrilled that this happened, because you know, 516 00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:03,480 their relationship with Iran are actually, while not necessarily warm, 517 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,799 they share a pretty big common interest, which is the 518 00:33:05,799 --> 00:33:09,599 world's largest gas field. So Iran also took a bit 519 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,839 of a gamble here. You know, we've seen plenty of 520 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:16,160 Iranian activity against American targets in Iraq. As far as 521 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,359 I know, this has never happened in Kuta, which is 522 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:24,599 somewhat closely aligned to Iran. The cousin Solomoni responds by 523 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,000 Iran in January twenty twenty. It was pretty limited. Now, 524 00:33:28,039 --> 00:33:32,160 there were no American fatalities when they responded, but there 525 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,440 were dozens of American soldiers who had traumatic broke brain injuries. 526 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,359 We later learned we may learn something like that in 527 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,519 this case. I think it's interesting. Anderson on Sunday, the Huthis, 528 00:33:43,559 --> 00:33:46,160 who have been on by Iran for many years now 529 00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:49,440 and had actually had a ceasefire at the United States 530 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,319 over the last several weeks, started talking about how they 531 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,400 might respond. If you combine the fact that they controlled 532 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,960 the approaches to the Red Sea and also these three 533 00:34:00,279 --> 00:34:02,920 to mine the Straits of four moves, that could have 534 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,000 a pretty big effect on oil markets. On the other hand, 535 00:34:06,119 --> 00:34:10,000 you know, this may be it. It would be wonderful 536 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,840 if it was. That said, look at the Salmon Rushdie 537 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,360 attack you know, in nineteen eighty nine, Iran put a 538 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,960 multimillion dollar reward on Salmon Rushdi's head because of a 539 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,840 novel he wrote they found blasphemous and it was, you know, 540 00:34:23,039 --> 00:34:27,000 decades later that he was assaulted and very seriously attacked 541 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,880 in New York State. So the point is this may 542 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,800 be it for the moment, and don't forget that. John Bolton, 543 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:37,159 Mike Pompeo, Brian Hookubo is a senior State Department official 544 00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:40,559 working on Iran, and President Trump himself are all under 545 00:34:40,559 --> 00:34:43,199 the threat of some form of assassination because of the 546 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:47,480 Casm Solomoni hit, which happened back, you know, five years ago. 547 00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:50,000 So this may be it for the interregnum. But that 548 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,360 doesn't mean that the Iranan regime is somehow going to 549 00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:56,280 suddenly decide that they don't plan to take any kind 550 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,480 of action as a result of what has happened. 551 00:34:59,599 --> 00:35:02,159 Speaker 1: So is that it is that all Iran is going 552 00:35:02,199 --> 00:35:04,639 to do to respond. Nobody knows the answer to that, 553 00:35:05,559 --> 00:35:09,039 but I'll tell you the authorities in a number of 554 00:35:09,079 --> 00:35:11,880 the major cities in this country are on high alert. 555 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:17,639 John Miller, former NYPD counterintelligence sky, has this to say 556 00:35:17,639 --> 00:35:19,719 about at least for New York City. 557 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 8: Well, the good news is that the command and control, 558 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,960 the top ranking people in the Iranian Revolutionary Guard corp 559 00:35:28,039 --> 00:35:33,199 As the top people in Hesbola, have suffered greatly in 560 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,000 the past number of months and in the past number 561 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:40,039 of days. So from a command and control standpoint, they're 562 00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:43,519 really damaged. One thing we have to consider though, is 563 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:49,079 one of the things the elements of Iranian intelligence operations 564 00:35:49,079 --> 00:35:53,000 that has not been affected by these recent attacks are 565 00:35:53,039 --> 00:35:56,760 the pieces that are placed overseas. So you have Iranian 566 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:01,199 operative throughout Eastern Europe, throughout Western Europe, and throughout the 567 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,920 United States. How do we know this. We know this 568 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,119 because in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, 569 00:36:08,639 --> 00:36:11,280 in the New York Joint Terrorism Task Force, we took 570 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:16,559 down a number of cases involving either Hezbola operatives acting 571 00:36:16,639 --> 00:36:20,639 on behalf of Iran or straight up Iranian operatives working 572 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:26,239 for the Ministry of Intelligence of Iran carrying out gathering 573 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:33,559 information on targets, infrastructure targets, tourist locations, government locations, or 574 00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:37,800 even planning assassinations of Iranian dissidents in New York. One case, 575 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:42,039 you're very familiar with or government officials who were involved 576 00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:47,079 in the in the assassination of General Tassum Sulimani. So 577 00:36:47,119 --> 00:36:50,360 it's not a loose network. It's something that's been operating 578 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,960 here and abroad for a while, and that's one of 579 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,719 the things you'd have to look out along with cyber well, 580 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:02,239 one of the things you know that the FBI, the 581 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,840 NYPD this weekend has really been engaging with law law 582 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,719 enforcement partners, not just in New York but across the nation, 583 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:17,000 private security partners, particularly Jewish organizations, Israeli installations, to say, 584 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,559 let's raise up their awareness because what we found in 585 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,480 every Iranian plot that we dealt with in New York 586 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,840 City was each one came with extensive pre operational surveillance. 587 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,480 So what you're looking for is who is that person 588 00:37:30,519 --> 00:37:33,320 who is assessing your security, who's hanging out by the 589 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,400 back of the location, who's looking at the cameras instead 590 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,639 of other things to look at. That's one thing. The 591 00:37:39,679 --> 00:37:41,880 other thing is you've got to be mining your human 592 00:37:42,079 --> 00:37:47,239 intelligent sources and your signals intelligent sources to say, what 593 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,960 are we overhearing, what are people telling us? The whole 594 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:54,840 thing about the Iran target in particular is that you know, 595 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,719 you saw things like the attack on Salomon Rushti. From 596 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,719 everything we know about that, that appeared to be a 597 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,920 classic lone wolf attack, but one that was generated by 598 00:38:05,119 --> 00:38:10,039 a series a drumbeat of propaganda against that target. In 599 00:38:10,119 --> 00:38:14,400 the attempt to assassinate of the Iranian dissident in Brooklyn, MASSI, 600 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,480 we saw first an attempt to kidnap her, working with 601 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,760 people that were hired on the ground here working for 602 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,679 Irani intelligence, and then a plot to skip the kidnap 603 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,400 part and just kill her. When you look at the 604 00:38:27,559 --> 00:38:30,880 critical infrastructure, what do they look at? They looked at 605 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,840 JFK Airport, They looked at Rockefeller Center, they looked at 606 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,599 the stature of Liberty, they looked at the Federal building downtown. 607 00:38:37,159 --> 00:38:40,599 They looked at all of the categories. Developed these files 608 00:38:40,639 --> 00:38:44,320 and then sent them back to Lebanon where Hesbala, you know, 609 00:38:44,639 --> 00:38:47,360 and it's Iranian handlers kind of looked at these and 610 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,599 what were they looking for? Not just tell me about 611 00:38:49,639 --> 00:38:53,079 the location, but find the vulnerabilities that we could exploit 612 00:38:53,159 --> 00:38:56,000 for an attack. So if there's a time to make 613 00:38:56,039 --> 00:38:58,960 sure you're on guard from that kind of thing. And 614 00:38:59,039 --> 00:39:02,079 I'm not saying it's panic. I'm just saying, if there's 615 00:39:02,119 --> 00:39:04,800 a time when tensions are high enough and that their 616 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,519 tools are low enough, that this may be some of 617 00:39:07,559 --> 00:39:09,760 the last things in their tool kid this is the 618 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,159 time for heightened awareness. 619 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,800 Speaker 1: So in other news that happened over the weekend, we 620 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:19,599 got to get these in as well. Mahmood Khalil was 621 00:39:19,679 --> 00:39:23,719 released from ICE attention in Louisiana. He has returned to 622 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:30,679 Columbia University campus. He was there on yesterday and he said, 623 00:39:30,679 --> 00:39:33,000 I'm grateful to be standing freely next to you all. 624 00:39:33,159 --> 00:39:37,480 He's not in any way humbled, not at all. He 625 00:39:37,519 --> 00:39:42,880 wants to continue to protest and argue against our government. 626 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,920 As a Green card holder and a Columbia University grad, 627 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,199 he just well, I think he graduated, so you've got that. 628 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,639 He said it felt like kidnapping. And then on top 629 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,960 of that, we had a judge order Kilmar Abrego Garcia, 630 00:39:57,039 --> 00:40:01,239 the guy that was sent to El Salvador. That the judge, 631 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:05,800 a Tennessee judge yesterday ordered the release of Abregio Garcia 632 00:40:06,199 --> 00:40:11,000 while he awaits a federal trial on human smuggling charges. 633 00:40:12,119 --> 00:40:16,360 He's not expected to go free because ICE said that 634 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,559 they will take him into custody if he's released on 635 00:40:19,679 --> 00:40:22,000 the criminal charges, and he can be deported before he 636 00:40:22,039 --> 00:40:25,199 has a chance to even see a judge. But the judge, 637 00:40:26,159 --> 00:40:30,960 Barbara Holmes, US magistrate judge, scheduled a hearing for Wednesday 638 00:40:31,079 --> 00:40:34,480 to discuss the conditions of his release, so he's still 639 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,559 in custody. The US government has already filed a motion 640 00:40:38,679 --> 00:40:42,360 to appeal the judge's ruling, and even the judge herself 641 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,400 acknowledged in her ruling that determining whether he will be 642 00:40:46,559 --> 00:40:49,760 released is, as she wrote, a little more than an 643 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:55,159 academic exercise, because ice will likely detain him rather than 644 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:59,519 let him be released from that jail in Tennessee. So 645 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,320 with that, let's check the markets and see, it's an 646 00:41:03,679 --> 00:41:09,559 interesting story right there about the oil prices shot up 647 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,800 on the news that there were Saturday night, the attack 648 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,039 on the nuclear facilities in Iran, and then they came 649 00:41:16,079 --> 00:41:20,280 back down again, and the markets today started off where 650 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:26,280 they're back and forth, very fairly tame but volatile. And 651 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,000 when all was said and done, you would think that 652 00:41:29,039 --> 00:41:33,159 the markets would be a major reaction, and instead the 653 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:37,320 Dow up three hundred seventy four to forty two thousand, 654 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,360 and five eighty one, SMP went up fifty seven, Nasdaq 655 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,079 up one hundred eighty three. 656 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:44,559 Speaker 2: Gold. 657 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,159 Speaker 1: Now I usually the fight to safety with down a 658 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,559 buck to thirty three eighty four, and the price of oil, 659 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,519 which had gone up to seventy five seventy seven. I 660 00:41:55,519 --> 00:41:57,920 think on one of the quotes I saw, came back 661 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,840 down down six dollars for the day to sixty seven 662 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:07,679 dollars for one barrel of oil. So again the reactions made. 663 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,440 A bitcoin fell back below one hundred, there was ninety 664 00:42:10,519 --> 00:42:13,880 nine thousand and some change, and now it came back up. 665 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,440 It was it's one hundred and three thousand this afternoon. 666 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,679 So that's it for our reaction to what happened over 667 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,000 the weekend. Of course, everybody's holding their breath, going what's 668 00:42:24,039 --> 00:42:27,679 going to happen next? But right now this is consuming 669 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,920 all of the news barrels that I could find. Thank 670 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,400 you for coming by today, Have yourself a wonderful rest 671 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,480 of your day. We'll be back with this tomorrow. Hope 672 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:56,800 to see you them