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much for your support. So, in my estimation, the nihilism
that exists in particular among the Zoomer generation gen z
that we are now seeing manifest manifested in the radical
left think Antifa as well as the Groper's the Nick
Fauentes crowd. They both share this nine and in my
estimation it comes from the K twelve and college systems.
That's where this came from. Now. Part of it also, though,
is sort of a natural tendency, as I mentioned earlier
in the show, the fourth Turning reference, where the generations
that you learn from are the two previous ones, and
the fourth Turning theory spells out that each turning lasts
about a generation about twenty years, and it runs in
cycles and we are in the fourth turning, which is
the crisis or winter, if you will, And the reason
for that is that the current generation does not remember
the last winter. They were not alive for it, and
there isn't anybody alive that they can talk to about it.
So how do you guard against that? Well, you have
to teach the lessons from the previous turnings, the previous crises. Unfortunately,
this is why I put a lot of the blame
into the into the education system. It's because we don't
teach this. Did you know that this is anti Communism Week?
That's in my stack of stuff here as well. Uh.
President Trump issued a proclamation the other day, November two
through the eighth. Sorry, last you know, last week was
Anti Communism Week, so I missed it, dang it. But
I'm still anti communists. Like this is not taught the
horrors of communism. This was covered up. The horrors of
communism was covered up as it was occurring. You can
thank the media for that. New York Times. I'm looking
in your direction. The woeful lack of historical understanding dooms
the generations to repeat their great grandparents' mistakes or their
great great grandparents' mistakes that led to the previous Fourth turning.
And in American history, by the way, our fourth turnings
occur with regularity. You know, eighty years ago World War two,
eighty years before that, the Civil War, I think, eighty
years before that, the Revolutionary War. Right, these crises occur
on a pretty regular basis in American history, and we
are due for one again. And this is what I'm
looking at and saying, this sure seems like a fourth
turning crisis. The nihilism expressed by the gropers who just
want to burn it all down if they have even
any thoughts about what replaces it. Some of the stuff
that Fuente says and has said on his popular YouTube
or Rumble show. Guy's got like a million followers on
Rumble or something. And these are mainly young men gen
z and they believe that the whole post World War
II liberal order has utterly failed them. They have grown
up in a system that has designated them as the oppressors,
even though they're you know, eleven years old. But they
have been steeped in this Marxist thought. And the nihilists
on the left want to tear down the post World
War II order liberal order as well and replace it
with communism. And they also both groups. They both also
hate the Jews, which they are like the canary in
the coal mine here because it never ends with the Jews.
So I will offer a counterpoint here. This was in
chroniclesmagazine dot org piece by John Harris, host of Conversations
That Matter podcast documentarian as well. He's an author, producer,
cultural commentator, and he wrote a piece a little while
ago called is there a Woke Right? And he talks
about because this was the first term that was sort
of applied to it, but and I use that term too,
but like I think it's it's much deeper. It's nihilism.
It's a desire to just see everything burn, especially with
the gropers. And I don't think they are on the
right because when you listen to them talk, there isn't
anything conservative and conservative is on the right. Conservative is
you know, preserve, protect the institution. If you're going to
make changes, you do the incrementally. You know, liberty over tyranny,
individual liberty, freedom, free markets, right that we are the
masters of our own destiny, resilience, faith, family, all of
those types of components of the ideology and groperism doesn't
have that. They don't espouse that stuff. They're not even maga.
According to their leader Fuentes, he just he's a troll. Basically,
he's an online troll. I've gone over some of the
stuff he said, so I'm not going to go back
over it now. But this this attempt to you know, well,
actually he has some good points. No, and like, and
I said this at the time after the interview that
he did with Tucker Carlson, Like, if that's going to
be your side, if you're on that side, I'm not
on your side, very clearly not on your side, because
I don't believe anything you believe, and I'm not a nihilist.
The term woke accompanied the Black Lives Matter movement as
a way to describe a heightened awareness of social disparities
and the revolutionary spirit required to remove and replace the
structures supposedly responsible for them. Like other analytical tools inspired
by cultural Marxism, such as identity politics critical theory, wokeness
targeted the cultural foundations of Western civilization, aiming to replace
them with a new order that promised a future form
of social equality yet to be realized. Because of its
rigid ideology, its negative consequences and the extent to which
it blamed innocuous and fundamental social features for reinforcing oppression.
The movement became discredited in the minds of many, and
the term became a pejorative. I'd say that's true. Although
the originated with the revolutionary left, some use it today
to discredit certain elements on the right that are less
liberal and more aligned with older conservative views, which I
would disagree with that as well. He then goes on
to quote and talk about several people inside. You know,
you got James Lindsay in there, there's a bunch of
people talking about the woke right. He comes to Seth Dillon,
the CEO of the Babylon b He called the woke
right a mirror image of the woke left, since they
used the same rhetoric, the same methods, the same grievance
and identity framework. Neil Shenvy, a chemist who runs a
Christian apologetics blog, made similar points and added that the
wolk right is embracing the ideas and methods of critical theory,
namely an oversimplification of social dynamics. Political commentator Constantin Kissing
accurately identified some of the civilizational threats conservatives are concerned about,
like the World Economic Forum, mass immigration policies, and anti
family rhetoric. But he compared these threats to the left's
discredited obsession with systemic racism and suggested that the right
might turn to an authoritarian figure if their concerns were
not addressed through democratic means. Kissing argued that Tucker Carlson
was already laying the groundwork for this shift and was
therefore woke. He calls these these cases an example of
a false equivalence being drawn between Christian right thinking and
social justice ideology, although I would point out that there
are people on this uh uh Christian nationalism in that
in that group that do play foot see with some
of the social justice ideology. They say so, like you
can go find their social media accounts, and they talk
about like, well, not all of the Marxist critical thinking
stuff is, you know for the birds. We just apply
it here to us, almost like the ring, you know,
Lord of the Rings, Like you know, maybe I it's
got so much power, just it requires somebody like me
to hold it. You know. The real question is whether
the rhetoric is true or is driven by a false ideology.
Every political approach seeks to protect preferred groups from perceived threats.
Even liberals view themselves as collectively opposing groups that threaten
their agenda. Ironically, much of the critique of the Wolke
right is written in this defensive spirit. If engaging in
political analysis that identifies general threats from powerful institutions and
seeks to preserve the social order, seeks to preserve the
social order equals left critical theory, which aims to deconstruct
the social order through an ideological framework, then there's a
serious conflation at play. So you're saying all of that
is to say, we are not the same. So this
guy John Harris at Chronicles magazine is saying they're not
the same. The Wolk Riot is not the Wolke Left,
that they were not the same. You're conflating these things
and they're different. Which brings me, though to a piece
by Mikhail Olsen op ed contributor and excuse me contributor
and to the federalist YouTuber and to do specializing in
commentary on Christian theology and conservative politics, and she wrote
a piece for the Christian Post Christian Nationalism the right
wing quote unquote, the right wing over correction we have
seen before. That's a question, and she's going to walk through.
I'm going to give you these examples. I'm going to
give you the highlights of her piece. She's going to
walk through the examples of these types of over corrections
to the excesses of the left. We have examples, all right.
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mass immigration. Their emphasis on a moral and religious society
is on point. Their outrage at the widespread corruption of
the Biden administration among decades of outright federal betrayal is
also well founded. They're also largely justified in calling out
the rot within evangelical circles, particularly the compromised leadership of
Big EVA, where progressive theology and politics have infiltrated the church.
Their rejection of World economic form style globalism is prudent
as well. But you knew there was a butt coming.
You could smell the butt. Never mind, but they risk
swinging the pendulum too far, replacing one form of tyranny
with another and building a system that threatens individual liberty
and freedom of conscience. The very foundation of the American experiment,
all under the guise of societal stability, structure, safety, power,
and quote unquote holy tradition. And we've seen this movie before. Fascism,
for example, as a political force, it did not emerge
in a vacuum. It was a visceral reaction, a quote
unquote right wing reaction to a world spiraling into chaos
after World War One. She then goes on to say
later that by nineteen nineteen, communist uprisings had erupted in
various countries, threatening to topple fragile governments and replace them
with Soviet style rule. This naturally led to the brute
backlash that we call fascism in Italy, the Biennio Rosso,
the two Red Years, that's what they called it. From
nineteen nineteen to nineteen twenty, it saw socialist strikes, factory occupations,
street clashes that paralyzed the nation. The liberal government floundered,
unable to restore order into this breach, steps Benito Mussolini,
a former socialist turned nationalist. His Black Shirts paramilitary squads
crushed leftist agitators promising a return to quote unquote Roman glory.
For many Italians at the time, weary of further leftist instability,
this was not tyranny. It was salvation. It was safety
over freedom, it was safety and relief. Right, that's the
overreaction to the left. This is what I see gropers as.
This is the overreaction to the left. What the left
has put the country through for the last sixty years
is now manifesting itself as a nihilistic cult in the
form of these gropers. And there are a lot of
people that are, you know, dipping their toes into that
little bubble over there, and that bubble will detach. Be careful,
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stuff that we have been fighting for twenty five years,
that I in my position as a reporter and then
as a host, like all of these issues that the Gropers,
that the gen Z, the Zoomers, the zoomer cons, and
even the people on the left, when they point to
all of these ills of the society, it's like I've
been fighting these same things, and so they see it
all as proof that all is lost, the system has failed,
and the post World War two liberal order needs to
be raised and then something else rebuilt. And to the
left we have clarity. They want communism for the gropers
and that band of nihilists, they're just in it to
see it burn. I'm not even sure they know what
they want to see. Some of them like they're like,
yea white nationalism or a Christian nationalism or some other thing,
some other form. Some people on that side that you know,
play foot see with the gropers. They've thrown out some ideas.
But what Mikhail Olsen documents in her in her post
at the Christian Post, she says, we have historical examples
of it right after World War One? When when when
that order collapsed, the liberal order collapsed, and what did
we see? She already mentioned, and I gave you the
highlights of what occurred in Italy, the rise of fascism
there in Germany, you know, bleaker still Adolf Hitler, some
obscure agitator in Munich's beer holes, seized on the despair
in Germany. He, like other authoritarian strong men, did not
let a good crisis go to waste. Right, his Nazi
Party gained traction as a lunatic or not as a
lunatic fringe but as the lone bulwark against the red
tide of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engel's communist manifesto applied right,
they were opponents to that. They beat down those Commis
in the streets. Go over to Spain, Francisco Franco, there's
another lens the Second Spanish Republic from nineteen thirty one
to thirty nine. Descend it into chaos as leftist factions, socialists, anarchists,
and commis pushed radical quote unquote reforms. Franco, a devout
Catholic and military man, rallied a coalition of conservatives, monarchists,
and fascists. His victory in nineteen thirty nine established a
dictatorship that lasted until nineteen seventy five, blending Catholic traditionalism
with authoritarian control. And by the way, I've heard people
on the right talk about this like this is the
model that they would like to pursue, a Francoist type
of a model. She goes on to say history repeats itself.
Fear of Marxism was not abstract. It was measurable in
these countries, riots, assassinations, and then electoral gains for radical parties.
I'm Donnie Fascism thrived by exploiting this fear, offering unity
and strength where liberalism seemed weak. Today, Christian nationalism in
the United States flirts with a parallel misstep. The cultural
left's excesses, things like drag queen story hours for kindergarteners,
you know, gender surgeries for minors, porous borders. All of
this stuff fuels a sense of moral siege, that we
are under siege. We've talked about this for twenty years,
and the temptation is then clear. If the Left is
a cultural wrecking ball, why not wield a righteous hammer
and crush them? That's the allure to make it stop.
Fascism's promise of order oftentimes ends in chains, though C. S.
Lewis warned in Mere Christianity, published in nineteen forty three,
he said, of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for
the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. Now,
Mikhail Olson, she says, the better way is to preserve
what we have, a constitutional republic like ours. This is
the antidote, precisely because it rejects these extremes. It's rooted
in checks and balances. It disperses power through Congress and
courts and states which temper any single factions zeal. The
First Amendment guards free speech and religion. That ensures neither
Marxists nor theocrats can monopolize truth. Article four guarantees every
state a republican form of government, not a theocracy or
a dictatorship. So she says, the US system, for all
its messiness, forces compromise over coercion, preserving liberty amid chaos.
Ditching it out of fear repeats the same mistakes of
the twentieth century. The gravest error you would just be,
you know, fleeing one ditch only to plunge into another.
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messages here from the Twitter machine. When we were talking
about housing prices. This is one of the beefs. One
of the grievances of gen Z it's the housing prices,
but coupled with that is also job prospects burden some
college loan debt. Basically, they were, you know, sold this
narrative of how to be successful and it hasn't worked
out for them, or so they believe. And there's also
layered into that elevated expectations based on the comfortable lifestyle
from which they come. So Russ says, my dad grew
up in a nine hundred square foot house with eight
siblings and one bathroom. I grew up in a twenty
two hundred square foot house, three baths, two kids. My
two kids grew up in a three thousand square foot
house with three and a half baths. We are living
way better than our predecessors. On living within your means.
I used to do financial counseling at our church. I
was always surprised by how many people making significantly more
than me two to three times our family income were
in so much worse shape because of their debt and
consumption habits. Right, and I do have a piece in
here I'll get back to about the culture of narcissism
and how advertising pushes this instant gratification and such, and
it's a hollow return. You know. This is from mcdellinger.
I love what you're talking about today. Growing up years ago,
we got fruit and nuts in our stockings at Christmas.
Everything is overdone today. Kids today are not grateful. They
expect the best. Yeah, that's part of it. And part
of it is I think a very natural desire by
parents to want to give more to their kids and say, well,
I didn't have a whole lot when I was a kid,
so I'm going to make sure that you have more
than I had. And you know, and grandparents too. I
see this. I have seen it. They shower the kids
with presents, and whatever the kids want they get and
at Christmas, and then if they don't end up getting
something that they want, and I saw this firsthand, they
get angry. They get resentful that they didn't get something
that they thought they were going to get, and they
ignore all the things that they did get. And I
understand the disappointment. I have been there myself. Okay, But
I think all of this stuff plays a role to
varying degrees. The hellion over on the WBT text line,
driven by liberty Buick GMC says Jesse Kelly, the talk
show host out of Texas. I believe Jesse Kelly warns
constantly that we better get things fixed or a real
dictator from one extreme or another will show up that
nobody wants. Well, I would just add that nobody eventually
wants because I think initially people will want the dictator,
you know, that's why they get into power in the
first place. And this is what the left keeps saying
about Donald Trump. By the way, that's what the whole
note kings think. They're feeding this fear. They keep feeding
that feeding. He is here, he is it, he is
the he's the dictator. Here he comes, you know, and
that's mainly just because they lost power. But anyway, Jeanie says,
great topics and subjects you have brought up in today's show.
Absolutely correct information about the fourth generation issue, the fourth turning.
I learned a lot from my grandparents watching their struggles.
My husband and I have always lived below our means.
We are happily retired, not rich, but comfortable and don't
have to worry about money besides a mortgage and a
car payment if you can't pay it off at the end,
of the month. Then you don't need it. If you
want it, save for it. That's the way we live.
We have no bills. Growing up, we watched our parents
and grandparents and learned our life lessons through them. Thanks again,
Pete for talking about subjects that our younger generation need
to listen to and understand. I've been listening to you
for a long time and your show just keeps getting
better and better. Genie and guest, well, thank you, Jeanie,
although I have to admit it's probably not that high
of a bar to keep step over considering where I started.
I mean, how could I go anywhere? But better? You know?
So there is that, and Susie says, so bring information today.
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