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much for your support. So, in my estimation, the nihilism

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that exists in particular among the Zoomer generation gen z

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that we are now seeing manifest manifested in the radical

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left think Antifa as well as the Groper's the Nick

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Fauentes crowd. They both share this nine and in my

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estimation it comes from the K twelve and college systems.

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That's where this came from. Now. Part of it also, though,

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is sort of a natural tendency, as I mentioned earlier

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in the show, the fourth Turning reference, where the generations

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that you learn from are the two previous ones, and

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the fourth Turning theory spells out that each turning lasts

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about a generation about twenty years, and it runs in

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cycles and we are in the fourth turning, which is

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the crisis or winter, if you will, And the reason

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for that is that the current generation does not remember

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the last winter. They were not alive for it, and

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there isn't anybody alive that they can talk to about it.

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So how do you guard against that? Well, you have

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to teach the lessons from the previous turnings, the previous crises. Unfortunately,

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this is why I put a lot of the blame

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into the into the education system. It's because we don't

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teach this. Did you know that this is anti Communism Week?

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That's in my stack of stuff here as well. Uh.

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President Trump issued a proclamation the other day, November two

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through the eighth. Sorry, last you know, last week was

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Anti Communism Week, so I missed it, dang it. But

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I'm still anti communists. Like this is not taught the

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horrors of communism. This was covered up. The horrors of

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communism was covered up as it was occurring. You can

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thank the media for that. New York Times. I'm looking

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in your direction. The woeful lack of historical understanding dooms

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the generations to repeat their great grandparents' mistakes or their

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great great grandparents' mistakes that led to the previous Fourth turning.

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And in American history, by the way, our fourth turnings

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occur with regularity. You know, eighty years ago World War two,

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eighty years before that, the Civil War, I think, eighty

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years before that, the Revolutionary War. Right, these crises occur

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on a pretty regular basis in American history, and we

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are due for one again. And this is what I'm

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looking at and saying, this sure seems like a fourth

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turning crisis. The nihilism expressed by the gropers who just

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want to burn it all down if they have even

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any thoughts about what replaces it. Some of the stuff

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that Fuente says and has said on his popular YouTube

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or Rumble show. Guy's got like a million followers on

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Rumble or something. And these are mainly young men gen

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z and they believe that the whole post World War

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II liberal order has utterly failed them. They have grown

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up in a system that has designated them as the oppressors,

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even though they're you know, eleven years old. But they

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have been steeped in this Marxist thought. And the nihilists

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on the left want to tear down the post World

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War II order liberal order as well and replace it

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with communism. And they also both groups. They both also

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hate the Jews, which they are like the canary in

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the coal mine here because it never ends with the Jews.

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So I will offer a counterpoint here. This was in

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chroniclesmagazine dot org piece by John Harris, host of Conversations

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That Matter podcast documentarian as well. He's an author, producer,

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cultural commentator, and he wrote a piece a little while

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ago called is there a Woke Right? And he talks

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about because this was the first term that was sort

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of applied to it, but and I use that term too,

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but like I think it's it's much deeper. It's nihilism.

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It's a desire to just see everything burn, especially with

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the gropers. And I don't think they are on the

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right because when you listen to them talk, there isn't

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anything conservative and conservative is on the right. Conservative is

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you know, preserve, protect the institution. If you're going to

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make changes, you do the incrementally. You know, liberty over tyranny,

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individual liberty, freedom, free markets, right that we are the

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masters of our own destiny, resilience, faith, family, all of

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those types of components of the ideology and groperism doesn't

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have that. They don't espouse that stuff. They're not even maga.

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According to their leader Fuentes, he just he's a troll. Basically,

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he's an online troll. I've gone over some of the

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stuff he said, so I'm not going to go back

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over it now. But this this attempt to you know, well,

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actually he has some good points. No, and like, and

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I said this at the time after the interview that

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he did with Tucker Carlson, Like, if that's going to

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be your side, if you're on that side, I'm not

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on your side, very clearly not on your side, because

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I don't believe anything you believe, and I'm not a nihilist.

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The term woke accompanied the Black Lives Matter movement as

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a way to describe a heightened awareness of social disparities

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and the revolutionary spirit required to remove and replace the

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structures supposedly responsible for them. Like other analytical tools inspired

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by cultural Marxism, such as identity politics critical theory, wokeness

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targeted the cultural foundations of Western civilization, aiming to replace

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them with a new order that promised a future form

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of social equality yet to be realized. Because of its

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rigid ideology, its negative consequences and the extent to which

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it blamed innocuous and fundamental social features for reinforcing oppression.

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The movement became discredited in the minds of many, and

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the term became a pejorative. I'd say that's true. Although

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the originated with the revolutionary left, some use it today

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to discredit certain elements on the right that are less

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liberal and more aligned with older conservative views, which I

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would disagree with that as well. He then goes on

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to quote and talk about several people inside. You know,

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you got James Lindsay in there, there's a bunch of

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people talking about the woke right. He comes to Seth Dillon,

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the CEO of the Babylon b He called the woke

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right a mirror image of the woke left, since they

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used the same rhetoric, the same methods, the same grievance

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and identity framework. Neil Shenvy, a chemist who runs a

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Christian apologetics blog, made similar points and added that the

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wolk right is embracing the ideas and methods of critical theory,

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namely an oversimplification of social dynamics. Political commentator Constantin Kissing

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accurately identified some of the civilizational threats conservatives are concerned about,

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like the World Economic Forum, mass immigration policies, and anti

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family rhetoric. But he compared these threats to the left's

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discredited obsession with systemic racism and suggested that the right

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might turn to an authoritarian figure if their concerns were

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not addressed through democratic means. Kissing argued that Tucker Carlson

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was already laying the groundwork for this shift and was

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therefore woke. He calls these these cases an example of

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a false equivalence being drawn between Christian right thinking and

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social justice ideology, although I would point out that there

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are people on this uh uh Christian nationalism in that

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in that group that do play foot see with some

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of the social justice ideology. They say so, like you

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can go find their social media accounts, and they talk

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about like, well, not all of the Marxist critical thinking

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stuff is, you know for the birds. We just apply

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it here to us, almost like the ring, you know,

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Lord of the Rings, Like you know, maybe I it's

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got so much power, just it requires somebody like me

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to hold it. You know. The real question is whether

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the rhetoric is true or is driven by a false ideology.

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Every political approach seeks to protect preferred groups from perceived threats.

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Even liberals view themselves as collectively opposing groups that threaten

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their agenda. Ironically, much of the critique of the Wolke

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right is written in this defensive spirit. If engaging in

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political analysis that identifies general threats from powerful institutions and

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seeks to preserve the social order, seeks to preserve the

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social order equals left critical theory, which aims to deconstruct

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the social order through an ideological framework, then there's a

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serious conflation at play. So you're saying all of that

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is to say, we are not the same. So this

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guy John Harris at Chronicles magazine is saying they're not

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the same. The Wolk Riot is not the Wolke Left,

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that they were not the same. You're conflating these things

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and they're different. Which brings me, though to a piece

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by Mikhail Olsen op ed contributor and excuse me contributor

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and to the federalist YouTuber and to do specializing in

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commentary on Christian theology and conservative politics, and she wrote

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a piece for the Christian Post Christian Nationalism the right

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wing quote unquote, the right wing over correction we have

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seen before. That's a question, and she's going to walk through.

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I'm going to give you these examples. I'm going to

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walk through the examples of these types of over corrections

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to the excesses of the left. We have examples, all right.

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credit where credit is due. Their critiques of the radical

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big pharma, abuse and foreign relations and spending, and unchecked

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also well founded. They're also largely justified in calling out

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the rot within evangelical circles, particularly the compromised leadership of

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Big EVA, where progressive theology and politics have infiltrated the church.

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Their rejection of World economic form style globalism is prudent

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as well. But you knew there was a butt coming.

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You could smell the butt. Never mind, but they risk

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swinging the pendulum too far, replacing one form of tyranny

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all under the guise of societal stability, structure, safety, power,

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and quote unquote holy tradition. And we've seen this movie before. Fascism,

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for example, as a political force, it did not emerge

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in a vacuum. It was a visceral reaction, a quote

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unquote right wing reaction to a world spiraling into chaos

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after World War One. She then goes on to say

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later that by nineteen nineteen, communist uprisings had erupted in

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various countries, threatening to topple fragile governments and replace them

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with Soviet style rule. This naturally led to the brute

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backlash that we call fascism in Italy, the Biennio Rosso,

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the two Red Years, that's what they called it. From

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nineteen nineteen to nineteen twenty, it saw socialist strikes, factory occupations,

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street clashes that paralyzed the nation. The liberal government floundered,

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unable to restore order into this breach, steps Benito Mussolini,

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a former socialist turned nationalist. His Black Shirts paramilitary squads

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crushed leftist agitators promising a return to quote unquote Roman glory.

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For many Italians at the time, weary of further leftist instability,

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this was not tyranny. It was salvation. It was safety

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over freedom, it was safety and relief. Right, that's the

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overreaction to the left. This is what I see gropers as.

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This is the overreaction to the left. What the left

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has put the country through for the last sixty years

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is now manifesting itself as a nihilistic cult in the

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form of these gropers. And there are a lot of

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people that are, you know, dipping their toes into that

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little bubble over there, and that bubble will detach. Be careful,

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in my estimation, the left built the groper reaction, the

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stuff that we have been fighting for twenty five years,

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that I in my position as a reporter and then

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as a host, like all of these issues that the Gropers,

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that the gen Z, the Zoomers, the zoomer cons, and

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even the people on the left, when they point to

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all of these ills of the society, it's like I've

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been fighting these same things, and so they see it

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all as proof that all is lost, the system has failed,

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and the post World War two liberal order needs to

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be raised and then something else rebuilt. And to the

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left we have clarity. They want communism for the gropers

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and that band of nihilists, they're just in it to

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see it burn. I'm not even sure they know what

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they want to see. Some of them like they're like,

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yea white nationalism or a Christian nationalism or some other thing,

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some other form. Some people on that side that you know,

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play foot see with the gropers. They've thrown out some ideas.

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But what Mikhail Olsen documents in her in her post

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at the Christian Post, she says, we have historical examples

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of it right after World War One? When when when

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that order collapsed, the liberal order collapsed, and what did

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we see? She already mentioned, and I gave you the

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highlights of what occurred in Italy, the rise of fascism

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there in Germany, you know, bleaker still Adolf Hitler, some

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obscure agitator in Munich's beer holes, seized on the despair

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in Germany. He, like other authoritarian strong men, did not

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let a good crisis go to waste. Right, his Nazi

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Party gained traction as a lunatic or not as a

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lunatic fringe but as the lone bulwark against the red

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tide of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engel's communist manifesto applied right,

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they were opponents to that. They beat down those Commis

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in the streets. Go over to Spain, Francisco Franco, there's

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another lens the Second Spanish Republic from nineteen thirty one

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to thirty nine. Descend it into chaos as leftist factions, socialists, anarchists,

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and commis pushed radical quote unquote reforms. Franco, a devout

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Catholic and military man, rallied a coalition of conservatives, monarchists,

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and fascists. His victory in nineteen thirty nine established a

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dictatorship that lasted until nineteen seventy five, blending Catholic traditionalism

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with authoritarian control. And by the way, I've heard people

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on the right talk about this like this is the

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model that they would like to pursue, a Francoist type

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of a model. She goes on to say history repeats itself.

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Fear of Marxism was not abstract. It was measurable in

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these countries, riots, assassinations, and then electoral gains for radical parties.

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I'm Donnie Fascism thrived by exploiting this fear, offering unity

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and strength where liberalism seemed weak. Today, Christian nationalism in

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the United States flirts with a parallel misstep. The cultural

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left's excesses, things like drag queen story hours for kindergarteners,

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you know, gender surgeries for minors, porous borders. All of

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this stuff fuels a sense of moral siege, that we

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are under siege. We've talked about this for twenty years,

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and the temptation is then clear. If the Left is

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a cultural wrecking ball, why not wield a righteous hammer

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and crush them? That's the allure to make it stop.

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Fascism's promise of order oftentimes ends in chains, though C. S.

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Lewis warned in Mere Christianity, published in nineteen forty three,

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he said, of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for

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the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. Now,

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Mikhail Olson, she says, the better way is to preserve

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what we have, a constitutional republic like ours. This is

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the antidote, precisely because it rejects these extremes. It's rooted

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in checks and balances. It disperses power through Congress and

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courts and states which temper any single factions zeal. The

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First Amendment guards free speech and religion. That ensures neither

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Marxists nor theocrats can monopolize truth. Article four guarantees every

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state a republican form of government, not a theocracy or

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a dictatorship. So she says, the US system, for all

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its messiness, forces compromise over coercion, preserving liberty amid chaos.

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Ditching it out of fear repeats the same mistakes of

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the twentieth century. The gravest error you would just be,

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you know, fleeing one ditch only to plunge into another.

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So that's why I seek to conserve this. And if

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your view is to burn it down, then again I

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am not on your side. I will never be on

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messages here from the Twitter machine. When we were talking

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about housing prices. This is one of the beefs. One

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of the grievances of gen Z it's the housing prices,

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but coupled with that is also job prospects burden some

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college loan debt. Basically, they were, you know, sold this

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narrative of how to be successful and it hasn't worked

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out for them, or so they believe. And there's also

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layered into that elevated expectations based on the comfortable lifestyle

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from which they come. So Russ says, my dad grew

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up in a nine hundred square foot house with eight

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siblings and one bathroom. I grew up in a twenty

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two hundred square foot house, three baths, two kids. My

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two kids grew up in a three thousand square foot

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house with three and a half baths. We are living

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way better than our predecessors. On living within your means.

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I used to do financial counseling at our church. I

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was always surprised by how many people making significantly more

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than me two to three times our family income were

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in so much worse shape because of their debt and

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consumption habits. Right, and I do have a piece in

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here I'll get back to about the culture of narcissism

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and how advertising pushes this instant gratification and such, and

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it's a hollow return. You know. This is from mcdellinger.

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I love what you're talking about today. Growing up years ago,

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we got fruit and nuts in our stockings at Christmas.

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Everything is overdone today. Kids today are not grateful. They

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expect the best. Yeah, that's part of it. And part

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of it is I think a very natural desire by

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parents to want to give more to their kids and say, well,

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I didn't have a whole lot when I was a kid,

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so I'm going to make sure that you have more

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than I had. And you know, and grandparents too. I

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see this. I have seen it. They shower the kids

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with presents, and whatever the kids want they get and

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at Christmas, and then if they don't end up getting

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something that they want, and I saw this firsthand, they

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get angry. They get resentful that they didn't get something

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that they thought they were going to get, and they

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ignore all the things that they did get. And I

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understand the disappointment. I have been there myself. Okay, But

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I think all of this stuff plays a role to

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varying degrees. The hellion over on the WBT text line,

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driven by liberty Buick GMC says Jesse Kelly, the talk

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show host out of Texas. I believe Jesse Kelly warns

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constantly that we better get things fixed or a real

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dictator from one extreme or another will show up that

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nobody wants. Well, I would just add that nobody eventually

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wants because I think initially people will want the dictator,

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you know, that's why they get into power in the

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first place. And this is what the left keeps saying

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about Donald Trump. By the way, that's what the whole

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note kings think. They're feeding this fear. They keep feeding

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that feeding. He is here, he is it, he is

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the he's the dictator. Here he comes, you know, and

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that's mainly just because they lost power. But anyway, Jeanie says,

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great topics and subjects you have brought up in today's show.

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Absolutely correct information about the fourth generation issue, the fourth turning.

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I learned a lot from my grandparents watching their struggles.

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My husband and I have always lived below our means.

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We are happily retired, not rich, but comfortable and don't

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have to worry about money besides a mortgage and a

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car payment if you can't pay it off at the end,

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of the month. Then you don't need it. If you

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want it, save for it. That's the way we live.

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We have no bills. Growing up, we watched our parents

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and grandparents and learned our life lessons through them. Thanks again,

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Pete for talking about subjects that our younger generation need

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to listen to and understand. I've been listening to you

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for a long time and your show just keeps getting

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better and better. Genie and guest, well, thank you, Jeanie,

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although I have to admit it's probably not that high

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of a bar to keep step over considering where I started.

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I mean, how could I go anywhere? But better? You know?

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So there is that, and Susie says, so bring information today.

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