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<v Speaker 1>It's a woman in white story. It's directly tied to

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<v Speaker 1>my family. There was a knock at the door, my

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<v Speaker 1>uncle answered it, and there's nobody there. The next night

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<v Speaker 1>there's a knock on the door, and my great grandmother

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<v Speaker 1>she answered the door, and she said that it felt

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<v Speaker 1>like the wind cut through her and went into the house.

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<v Speaker 1>But again nobody was there. The night my grandma died,

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<v Speaker 1>my mom was driving back to their house. If he

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<v Speaker 1>is driving through these rural back roads in eastern Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 1>she describes it as there was a olive skinned Native

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<v Speaker 1>American woman with long jet black hair standing in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the road. She said that she's only in

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<v Speaker 1>a white dress and that she didn't even react to

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<v Speaker 1>like almost getting hit by a car. And she said,

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<v Speaker 1>the woman just like steps back and is enveloped into

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<v Speaker 1>this fog.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Bigfoot Crossroads. My name is Matt and joining

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<v Speaker 2>me is John Taylor. John is a newfound friend and

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<v Speaker 2>host of the YouTube channel The Other Side, where he

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<v Speaker 2>talks about all kinds of creepy and strange and serial

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<v Speaker 2>killer goodness, stuff that I like, stuff that I'm into. John,

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for joining.

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<v Speaker 1>Me, Hey, I really appreciate you. Man. I'm super excited

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<v Speaker 1>to be on.

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<v Speaker 2>Her first off. I don't know if you're prepared to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about this or not, but you mentioned something already

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<v Speaker 2>in conversation that I wanted to hear about. You have

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<v Speaker 2>a story about Appell Crawl.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so yes, and no, it's not my story, but

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<v Speaker 1>it is a story I have. So one of the

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<v Speaker 1>first YouTube videos I ever made, it was from a

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<v Speaker 1>reddit post on the rs slash Crawler's subreddit. This woman

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<v Speaker 1>had gone to Red River Gorge in Kentucky. She was

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<v Speaker 1>hiking around with her family and everything like that. They

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<v Speaker 1>decided to camp overnight, and through sheer coincidence I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>they encountered another lady on the trail at night, which

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<v Speaker 1>is very strange. It kind of freaked them out a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, and they thought maybe this lady was good

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<v Speaker 1>rob I'm gonna stab them whatever. So they started looking

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<v Speaker 1>around the camp site and they saw this crawler in

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<v Speaker 1>Red River Gorge. Now how true that story is was

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<v Speaker 1>posted on read it. I don't know. She drew a

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<v Speaker 1>sketch of it that you could find pretty easily. But

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<v Speaker 1>I put that video out there in twenty twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>just to make content. I got really bored. But I

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<v Speaker 1>got a really weird email at the beginning of this

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<v Speaker 1>year related to that. Some guy who I don't know truly,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never metamor talk to him in person. He said

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<v Speaker 1>to be an email that he had gone out to

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<v Speaker 1>Red River Gorge and he, you know, he was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>find whatever the hell this thing was, if I remember correctly,

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<v Speaker 1>like he was ready to camp overnight. He brought a

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<v Speaker 1>hammock and like a knife and found this really weird

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<v Speaker 1>arrangement of stuff. And I don't I'm trying to pull

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<v Speaker 1>up the picture and I don't know where it's at

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<v Speaker 1>on my computer, but it was like a weird spiral

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<v Speaker 1>of bones, like they were purposely set out there, and

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<v Speaker 1>he thought that was really weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>As he kept going through the woods, he heard a

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<v Speaker 1>channing sound, which, like, I'm from southeastern Kentucky, I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>stories about people hearing channing and in caves and in

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<v Speaker 1>the woods all the time, Like my own uncle told

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<v Speaker 1>the stories like that growing up. So I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably down there with like some weird cult or

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<v Speaker 1>something whatever. So he gets closer and closer to this

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<v Speaker 1>channing and there's people in a cave at Red River

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<v Speaker 1>Gorge dancering around a fire channing doing weird shit, and

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<v Speaker 1>he said that it looked like there was a person

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<v Speaker 1>on like a stone slab in the middle of the room.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he turns around and he sees what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to assume is the same pale crawler in the trees,

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<v Speaker 1>and he dips out of there. So now there's two

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<v Speaker 1>accounts in Red River Gorge of this. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how true these stories are, but I enjoy them. Crawler

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<v Speaker 1>stories are starting to pop up more and more where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm from in Kentucky, so you know, I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 2>So did you grow up with an interest in this stuff?

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<v Speaker 2>How did this whole thing get started for you?

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<v Speaker 1>So, like I was a weird kid. I was born

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<v Speaker 1>with heart problems, so like I immediately like died when

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<v Speaker 1>I was born, and I've died three other times and

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<v Speaker 1>I've had to have a ton of heart surgeries, damn.

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<v Speaker 1>So it wasn't very very outdoorsy. I was a book kid.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched a lot of History Channel, and that's when

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<v Speaker 1>like monster quests and everything came on. So like I

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<v Speaker 1>would watch those videos and read books about it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>birth of the Internet there were angel fire pages and right,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'd go through all of that, But like I

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<v Speaker 1>grew up here in one specific story, but a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of spooky stories from like my mom and my grandparents

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<v Speaker 1>that just made me interested in it. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like Molder from the X Files. I've not seen

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things, but I want to believe in

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<v Speaker 1>it and the things that have happened. Like I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see a ghost, I didn't see a dog man or anything,

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<v Speaker 1>but enough weird stuff happened that I feel like it

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<v Speaker 1>falls in the realm.

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<v Speaker 2>What was the one story that you heard? What was

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<v Speaker 2>it something your family experienced?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it's a it's a woman in white story,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's like it's directly tied to my family. My

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<v Speaker 1>let's see my great great great grandmother. She was like

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<v Speaker 1>straight American. Her family was straight out of the Blackfoot Confederacy,

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<v Speaker 1>moved across the United States somehow ended up in Harlan, Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was apparently spiritual in a Native American way.

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't go to regular church or anything else. She

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<v Speaker 1>believed in spirit guides, She made dream catchers, She did

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<v Speaker 1>what I assume is traditional Native American spiritual practices right,

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<v Speaker 1>and she folded everyone in our family. And I've never

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<v Speaker 1>met her. This has been passed down that whenever they

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<v Speaker 1>died and it was their time, she was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the person to come cross us over. So the

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<v Speaker 1>story I was always told was that she comes three

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<v Speaker 1>days in a row. The first two days are kind

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<v Speaker 1>of get your shit together, and then the third day

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<v Speaker 1>she takes you to whatever is on the other side

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<v Speaker 1>of life, which is where my YouTube channel name came from.

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<v Speaker 1>My grandmother was like the only person that still practiced

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<v Speaker 1>like her. She was kind of weird about that. She

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<v Speaker 1>did Native American things, even though like if she broke

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<v Speaker 1>an arm, she'd glow in the dark. She was so white,

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<v Speaker 1>and she had cancer when I was a little kid

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<v Speaker 1>that led to her passing away. So three days before

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<v Speaker 1>she passed away at nine PM, and multiple people in

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<v Speaker 1>my family that are now dead and a few that

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<v Speaker 1>are alive can verify this, there was a knock at

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<v Speaker 1>the door. My uncle answered it and there's nobody there.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody thought, Okay, it's weird, somebody's playing a prank.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>The next night, there's a knock on the door and

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<v Speaker 1>my great grandmother she answered the door and she said

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<v Speaker 1>that it felt like the wind cut through her and

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<v Speaker 1>went into the house, like it was, you know, funneled

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<v Speaker 1>into the door. But again nobody was there. The night

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<v Speaker 1>my grandma died, my mom was driving back to their house.

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<v Speaker 1>And she always tries to like brush this off as

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<v Speaker 1>her being tired because at the time she was going

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<v Speaker 1>to college to get her teaching degree. She was student teaching,

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<v Speaker 1>and then she was working like a full shift at

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<v Speaker 1>Walmart in the afternoons or at night. So she had

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<v Speaker 1>just gotten out of class and she was headed home.

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<v Speaker 1>It was eight eight thirty at night as she is

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<v Speaker 1>driving through these rural back roads in eastern Kentucky. The

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<v Speaker 1>way she describes it isn't like she drove into a fog.

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<v Speaker 1>It's she's driving and like it just appears in front

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<v Speaker 1>of her. She didn't see it beforehand. So she's going

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<v Speaker 1>in this fog. She rounds a corner and swears that

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<v Speaker 1>she sees a person. She doesn't get a good look

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<v Speaker 1>at him. She like slams on her brakes and she's

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<v Speaker 1>waiting to hit the person. When she looks up, there's

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<v Speaker 1>nobody there. So she's like, I'm tired, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on, I'm gonna keep going. So she keeps driving,

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<v Speaker 1>and eventually she's two curves before my grandmother's house. She

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<v Speaker 1>going around one curve and she thinks that she sees

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<v Speaker 1>somebody right when the road goes straight, she's not sure.

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<v Speaker 1>She thinks she's still tired, so she doesn't hit the bikes,

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<v Speaker 1>and as she gets closer and closer to whatever is

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<v Speaker 1>in the road, she said, it be comes more real

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<v Speaker 1>when she eventually slams on her brakes because she thinks

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<v Speaker 1>she's gonna hit somebody. She describes it as there was

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<v Speaker 1>a olive skinned Native American woman with long jet black

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<v Speaker 1>hair standing in the middle of the road. She said

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<v Speaker 1>that she's only in a white dress and that she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even react to like almost getting hit by a car.

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<v Speaker 1>So my mom is like locked eyes with this lady

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<v Speaker 1>for a few seconds, and she said, the woman just

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<v Speaker 1>like steps back and is enveloped into this fog. Again.

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<v Speaker 1>She thinks she's crazy. She doesn't know what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>So she drives, you know, the few hundred yards that

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<v Speaker 1>are left to my grandma's house, and like walks into

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<v Speaker 1>a shit show before she can say anything, like the

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<v Speaker 1>hospice nurses are jumping around, machines are making noises, like

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<v Speaker 1>I assume my grandmother coated, but like, there's a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of people in the house trying to figure out what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on. And in the middle of all of this,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a knock at the door. So my grandpa, as

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<v Speaker 1>far as I know, he didn't believe in ghosts. He

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<v Speaker 1>was a very serious person. And he's like, that's those

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<v Speaker 1>kids knucking on the doors again. We're waiting on the

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<v Speaker 1>ambulance to get here. We know they're not here because

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<v Speaker 1>the windows are open, right, so they don't answer the door.

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<v Speaker 1>When he basically says, ignore that the front door and

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<v Speaker 1>the back door, which is by the kitchen, but you

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<v Speaker 1>could probably see through each door if they're both open.

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<v Speaker 1>They're all locked and chained. They blow open to the

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<v Speaker 1>point that they put holes in the drywall. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>middle of June at this point. All of the people

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<v Speaker 1>there said it got so cold that they could see

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<v Speaker 1>their breath, and that is when my grandmother flatlined. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>as she flat lines fully passes away, they said all

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<v Speaker 1>the cold air left the house. So I grew up

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<v Speaker 1>here in that story from multiple people's perspectives that were there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I always kind of thought they were full of

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<v Speaker 1>shit until twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, I had just moved

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<v Speaker 1>to start law school, and I had gone back home

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<v Speaker 1>to get some things, and my mom had just gotten

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<v Speaker 1>like a big fancy printer so she could scan all

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<v Speaker 1>of her photos and upload them, so like I could

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<v Speaker 1>have a copy of any photo I wanted. So about

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<v Speaker 1>five years ago, as we're going through these photos, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>my mom like deflated, She like hit the floor, like

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<v Speaker 1>slid out of her chair and was on the ground crying.

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<v Speaker 1>After I was able to calm her down, she like

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<v Speaker 1>pulls up this picture and she like, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>woman I saw the night my mom died. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>the only photo that we had of my great great

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<v Speaker 1>great grandmother who was supposed to be super Native American.

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<v Speaker 1>And she says that's what she saw or that's who

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<v Speaker 1>she saw in the middle of the road. Wow, that

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<v Speaker 1>Figure out. And I mean by this point. I have

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<v Speaker 1>the paranormal club at my school, and a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>weird things happens with that. But we've been able to

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me about the paranormal club. We talked a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit about that, but what does a paranormal club do

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly in my interview at the school, they said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>And being close to Cincinnati, where I've moved to to teach,

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<v Speaker 1>was like, well, do a ghost club. The literacy rates

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<v Speaker 1>these kids are reading on a third and fourth grade

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<v Speaker 1>level in eighth grade. Ghost stories aren't necessarily the most

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<v Speaker 1>complex stories, but you know, getting them to read more

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<v Speaker 1>what we started doing was, you know, just reading local stories.

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<v Speaker 1>We would read about Bobby Mackie's. We would read about

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<v Speaker 1>some house in Newport, Kentucky that has a ghost, lady

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<v Speaker 1>lady in white or something like that, I can't think

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<v Speaker 1>of it, Cincinnati Music Hall. We would just read about

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff. More kids got interested to the point that

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<v Speaker 1>the school decided to make clubs part of the daytime curriculum.

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<v Speaker 1>So once a month, instead of us going to like

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<v Speaker 1>And out of the two hundred and I think it

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<v Speaker 1>eligible to be in clubs, I had one hundred and sixty.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, which was awful.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a mess. But what I ended up doing was, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>So I went and bought a spirit box. So I

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<v Speaker 1>had them go into another room because we're in the library,

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<v Speaker 1>there's multiple rooms there. Had them go into a done

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<v Speaker 1>room and mess with a spirit box. Had them go

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<v Speaker 1>into the esports room because there's a giant table there

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<v Speaker 1>and they would try to use a pendulum or something,

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<v Speaker 1>which some people were upset about that instead it was witchcraft,

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<v Speaker 1>and my response was, most of these kids can't spell witchcraft.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they're going to be practicing it. We

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<v Speaker 1>kept doing some different things. Eventually I watched the documentary

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<v Speaker 1>series Hellier, which has a very weird connection to my

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<v Speaker 1>school as well that I can get into in a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>But I saw them doing the Estus method in that,

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<v Speaker 1>which I thought that might be a lot easier than

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of kids all yelling at a spirit box

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time. So I got a few more

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<v Speaker 1>spear boxes. We got some technically, we got the esports

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<v Speaker 1>headphones connected those, and the kids are super into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Kids that would never even look at a history book

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<v Speaker 1>or go to the library have gone and gotten library memberships,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of them actually taught to me. Today. They're

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<v Speaker 1>researching names that we've gotten through spirit boxes or EDP sessions,

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<v Speaker 1>and so the names we've gotten, we've gotten Stan, which

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to give out the last name, because

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<v Speaker 1>we found one Stan's ex wife's family and Stan's brother

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<v Speaker 1>and had them listen listen to a spearbox session, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they put on the headphones and they said it

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<v Speaker 1>sounded just like him. So we were able to find

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<v Speaker 1>a stand with connections to the school.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason we found him is because his ashes were

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<v Speaker 1>spread were realistically they're spread right outside of my classroom

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<v Speaker 1>because that was one of his favorite spots on campus.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate that. Let's see, we kept getting Stephen Sarah,

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<v Speaker 1>which is weird. It's all s names. There is a

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<v Speaker 1>local legend about a girl in a blue dress, and

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<v Speaker 1>we've gotten that full sentence before on EVP. I'll have

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<v Speaker 1>to find that. You know, they're asking who are you?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>What do we know you as? And we got that response.

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<v Speaker 1>Lights have gone on and off night. Janitors have seen

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<v Speaker 1>full body apparitions. We've had psychic I've had psychics come

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<v Speaker 1>to the school. I'm not gonna say we because the

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<v Speaker 1>school does not approve of it. I've had psychics come

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<v Speaker 1>to the school and professional ghost hunting teams to lead

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<v Speaker 1>ghost hunts during like after school events. Every year we

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<v Speaker 1>have a after problem celebration. We do fifty thousand things

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<v Speaker 1>and one of them is a giant ghost hunt. But

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<v Speaker 1>every year something weird happens. We've bought brought in different

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<v Speaker 1>groups of ghost hunters and they've all gotten the same name,

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<v Speaker 1>which is bid them again. Didn't know what that was

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<v Speaker 1>until the hell Your people came out with a documentary

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<v Speaker 1>about on an object they have called the Krone, which

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<v Speaker 1>apparently the thing in that what it demon whatever it

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<v Speaker 1>was called bit them. That's not even the most important

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<v Speaker 1>part of all of this though. In my free time

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<v Speaker 1>I try to help out however I can at the school,

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<v Speaker 1>So over the summers, I go in and I helped

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<v Speaker 1>make sure, you know, the janitors don't need any help.

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<v Speaker 1>I've helped them scrab the hallways, rearrange rooms, whatever, and

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<v Speaker 1>I typically listen to podcast while I'm doing that. So

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<v Speaker 1>last year I was scrubbing the floors with them, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was listening to the Two Girls One Ghost podcast

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<v Speaker 1>that had the new Kirks who created Hellier and the

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<v Speaker 1>Unbinding on it, and they were talking about this blade

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<v Speaker 1>that they had. It was associated with some cult I

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember what one. Greg Newkirk was trying to put

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<v Speaker 1>it in a candle and ends up slicing his hand

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<v Speaker 1>open and his blood got on some other haunted object.

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<v Speaker 1>Either way, it doesn't sound good. It sounds like the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of a Richmond Yeah whoops yeah, oopsie poopsie we're

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<v Speaker 1>haunted now, so they go to the hospital. When they're

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<v Speaker 1>at the hospital, his wife's like, hey, the moment you

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<v Speaker 1>yelled at me, I got a strange phone call. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't answer it, and they play the voicemail on on

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<v Speaker 1>that podcast and it's like a bunch of whispering is

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<v Speaker 1>real weird, Like five six people are talking at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, and then it's like a really chipper like goodbye,

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<v Speaker 1>and it hangs up. So in my head, I'm like, wow, that'soo.

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<v Speaker 1>He still scrubbing the floor. And they're like, it's weird

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<v Speaker 1>because the phone call was from a school, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, huh, I'm at a school right now. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like in the other weird thing is like it's a

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<v Speaker 1>school near me, and I'm like, holy shit, I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>a school near them. And then uh, They're like, the

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<v Speaker 1>weird part is that the phone call it came from

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<v Speaker 1>a street named I really don't want to dos my school,

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<v Speaker 1>but the name of the street is associated with like

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<v Speaker 1>their investigation into Pam and droom Man and their whole

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<v Speaker 1>hell year Goblin investigation. I was like, damn it, it's

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<v Speaker 1>my school. Sure as shit. They go into a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more detail and like that is one thousand percent

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<v Speaker 1>my school.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow right.

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<v Speaker 1>I sent them like a whole crackhead email. They responded

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, hey, we'll talk to you at some

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<v Speaker 1>point about this. We're busy. They've not gotten back to

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<v Speaker 1>the we'll talk to you about this, but at least

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<v Speaker 1>they know about it. It's probably the longest email I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever written in my entire life.

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<v Speaker 2>PS, Guys, I think we could be really good friends.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I yeah, I've sent those emails before.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, technically your neighbor. Do you want to go get

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<v Speaker 1>taco belt together and speak about this?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>But my score was apparently haunted and the modern day

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<v Speaker 1>ghostbusters are connected to.

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<v Speaker 2>It, So was there any like lore at the school?

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<v Speaker 2>Previous to the paranormal club that you know about.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a janitor that had been there for a

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<v Speaker 1>while and he he's the first person that told me

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<v Speaker 1>about the girl in the blue dress because he had

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<v Speaker 1>seen her on multiple occasions. It's a little twelve year

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<v Speaker 1>old girl at most that she walks around. She has

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<v Speaker 1>a blue dress on allegedly the second story staircase, she

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<v Speaker 1>leaned over the side and fell and broke her neck

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<v Speaker 1>and died on impact. Because the second floor is not

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<v Speaker 1>very high, so I don't know how really you die

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<v Speaker 1>unless you land on your head. But he had seen

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<v Speaker 1>her before. Before the paranormal Club. I became friends with

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<v Speaker 1>the band teacher, and he would hear disembodied voices in

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<v Speaker 1>the band room, which is really weird because it's like

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<v Speaker 1>completely soundproof. You can't hear anything on the outside, but

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<v Speaker 1>he would hear voices in that room when nobody's there.

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<v Speaker 1>I've actually been in that room with him talking to him,

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<v Speaker 1>and like something will hit the symbols and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna lie. It's the highest I've ever jumped in my

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<v Speaker 1>entire life. I would break Olympic records if it happened again,

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<v Speaker 1>but there was nothing by the drums. Back in the day,

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<v Speaker 1>Northern Kentucky flooded pretty horrifically. I think it was like

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen nineteen thirty something. A giant flood happened. Like technically

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<v Speaker 1>the school was built on top of houses that were

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<v Speaker 1>just bulldozed into their basement. But the people that lived

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<v Speaker 1>there during the flood, I don't know if they died

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<v Speaker 1>in the flood, but they sure as hell went missing

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<v Speaker 1>and they weren't found after that granted, record keeping in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen thirties was not the best, but most likely

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<v Speaker 1>they passed away there. I mean, we're right by the

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio River, so you know, if you believe in you know,

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<v Speaker 1>connections between running water and the pair normal, there's that

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<v Speaker 1>also nearby. The oldest account of something strange I've been

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<v Speaker 1>able to find is allegedly the local Native Americans ran

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<v Speaker 1>a nefhel like a biblical giant, out onto an island

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<v Speaker 1>that was in the middle of the Ohio River and

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<v Speaker 1>they killed it there. And don't know where the hell

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<v Speaker 1>that island is because the water levels have risen. But

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<v Speaker 1>like there's just the history of weird, weird stuff in

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<v Speaker 1>that area. Plus like parents, former principals, uh school board members, students,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm the weird guy now, so they'll come tell

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<v Speaker 1>me their stories. The former principal has a UFO sighting

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<v Speaker 1>from when he was a kid that was investigated by

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Allen Heineck with Project Blue Book. So like there's

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<v Speaker 1>that on the banks of the river. Kids claim that

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<v Speaker 1>there's dogmen in the woods in Windygoes. There's been a

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<v Speaker 1>handful of bigfoot fightings in the area of Bigfoot, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>swimming across the Ohio River, bigfood walking across the street

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<v Speaker 1>because it's it's heavily populated, but like, there's decent amounts

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<v Speaker 1>of light woods in the area. I'm not too sure

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<v Speaker 1>a bigfoot could really live there, but they claim it's there.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's a pig lady that that story goes

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<v Speaker 1>back to, like the nineteen forties that's seen in the area.

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<v Speaker 2>A pig lady. Okay, what's the story with the pig lady.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never heard of a pig lady before.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know about this until the first time. I

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00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:24.799
<v Speaker 1>had the tension and the kids that were in there

420
00:28:24.799 --> 00:28:26.920
<v Speaker 1>were like, you're the weird guy. Let me tell you

421
00:28:26.920 --> 00:28:33.599
<v Speaker 1>his story. There's like four different stories, but like the

422
00:28:34.119 --> 00:28:37.599
<v Speaker 1>veryon that has the most elements of all of those,

423
00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:40.759
<v Speaker 1>that seems like it's probably the closest to whatever the

424
00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:46.680
<v Speaker 1>truth is. Is that this woman was walking down I

425
00:28:46.680 --> 00:28:52.200
<v Speaker 1>think it's Route eight in Kentucky when she was either

426
00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:55.880
<v Speaker 1>hit by a car or shoved out of a car

427
00:28:56.079 --> 00:28:59.759
<v Speaker 1>if she wasn't walking, and getting hit by the car

428
00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:02.839
<v Speaker 1>thrown out of the car led to her hitting her head.

429
00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:07.720
<v Speaker 1>And story A is that she hit her head and

430
00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:10.279
<v Speaker 1>she passed away immediately and she was eaten by pigs

431
00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:16.279
<v Speaker 1>and she came back together as some hog lady. And

432
00:29:16.319 --> 00:29:19.480
<v Speaker 1>the other story is that she hit her head. A

433
00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:24.680
<v Speaker 1>local farmer went and you know, rescued her and because

434
00:29:24.720 --> 00:29:26.880
<v Speaker 1>she was so disfigured, he cut the head of a

435
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:29.079
<v Speaker 1>pig off of and put it on her face.

436
00:29:29.759 --> 00:29:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Jeez.

437
00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Both of them just sound like urban legends, but the

438
00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:40.440
<v Speaker 1>people that I talked to they seem to believe it. Kids,

439
00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:45.160
<v Speaker 1>but like jumors and seniors, they will go out and

440
00:29:46.079 --> 00:29:50.680
<v Speaker 1>do like hog woman hunts through the woods and they'll

441
00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:54.079
<v Speaker 1>follow the railroad tracks to like the deep woods because

442
00:29:54.079 --> 00:29:55.960
<v Speaker 1>that's probably the easiest way to get back there, and

443
00:29:56.000 --> 00:30:00.599
<v Speaker 1>like they have pig calls and everything trying to finder.

444
00:30:01.480 --> 00:30:04.079
<v Speaker 1>Every year they come back with stories. Some kids say

445
00:30:04.079 --> 00:30:06.599
<v Speaker 1>that they saw somebody in the woods that could be her.

446
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:09.400
<v Speaker 1>That's where they came back with a wind to go

447
00:30:09.599 --> 00:30:13.200
<v Speaker 1>siding that something came at them on all fours and

448
00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:17.680
<v Speaker 1>that stood up and ran at them. But people in

449
00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:19.079
<v Speaker 1>that area seem to believe it.

450
00:30:20.039 --> 00:30:23.319
<v Speaker 2>So it's just one of those places where there's just

451
00:30:23.359 --> 00:30:25.279
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of weird shit happening all the time.

452
00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:30.160
<v Speaker 1>There's just so much weird lore in the area, and

453
00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:32.319
<v Speaker 1>you really wouldn't think it. You're just like, oh, this

454
00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:37.160
<v Speaker 1>town's you know, if it's just you know, a plane,

455
00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:42.640
<v Speaker 1>because it's super small, it's like two miles wide. It's

456
00:30:42.680 --> 00:30:45.920
<v Speaker 1>just like a liberal town near the Ohio River. But

457
00:30:46.519 --> 00:30:49.119
<v Speaker 1>what everybody has a story of something.

458
00:30:50.559 --> 00:30:54.000
<v Speaker 2>I wonder how many schools out there are on it,

459
00:30:54.160 --> 00:30:56.680
<v Speaker 2>or how stories of being on it, because my high

460
00:30:56.720 --> 00:31:03.000
<v Speaker 2>school was pretty famous locally being haunted. There was a

461
00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:09.720
<v Speaker 2>band director that had a heart attack during a performance.

462
00:31:10.519 --> 00:31:13.400
<v Speaker 2>I think it was an after school performance. I don't

463
00:31:13.440 --> 00:31:17.440
<v Speaker 2>think it was during the day, but he was literally

464
00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:20.319
<v Speaker 2>like up there, and I think the story was that

465
00:31:20.359 --> 00:31:24.480
<v Speaker 2>they were performing a song called bring Me Sweet Death

466
00:31:24.599 --> 00:31:28.759
<v Speaker 2>or something like that, something very yeah, something very fitting,

467
00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:31.359
<v Speaker 2>and he died right there on the spot of a

468
00:31:31.400 --> 00:31:36.000
<v Speaker 2>heart attack in the auditorium. And I was heavily involved

469
00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:39.160
<v Speaker 2>in stagecraft and all that stuff. I ran sound for

470
00:31:39.240 --> 00:31:41.559
<v Speaker 2>the school, so I would spend a lot of time

471
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:45.240
<v Speaker 2>in that auditorium by myself, and it definitely had a

472
00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:48.720
<v Speaker 2>vibe to it. I never experienced anything other than you know,

473
00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:54.599
<v Speaker 2>strange noises that big empty auditoriums make occasionally, but there

474
00:31:54.640 --> 00:31:57.000
<v Speaker 2>were a few people that said they saw stuff every

475
00:31:57.039 --> 00:32:00.279
<v Speaker 2>now and then. And then there was a bass spent

476
00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:04.839
<v Speaker 2>level to the school that was supposedly haunted, and again

477
00:32:04.920 --> 00:32:08.480
<v Speaker 2>it was also very creepy, but the area of it

478
00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:13.119
<v Speaker 2>that was haunted, they had converted part of it into

479
00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:17.480
<v Speaker 2>a kind of like a batting cage area for the

480
00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:21.480
<v Speaker 2>baseball team to practice in. And it was a very

481
00:32:21.599 --> 00:32:24.920
<v Speaker 2>unassuming door. There was no windows on the door or anything.

482
00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:27.079
<v Speaker 2>You had to have a key togain there. I only

483
00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:29.279
<v Speaker 2>went in there one time, but you like unlock it

484
00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:32.400
<v Speaker 2>and it's just this big empty room and they had

485
00:32:32.680 --> 00:32:35.240
<v Speaker 2>hung up you know, nets and stuff for the batting practice,

486
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:37.200
<v Speaker 2>but there was no windows or anything. Like I said,

487
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:40.519
<v Speaker 2>it was the basement floor and so like, yeah, the

488
00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:42.960
<v Speaker 2>kids would you know, turn the lights off and try

489
00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:47.200
<v Speaker 2>to scare one another. And then there was another story

490
00:32:47.240 --> 00:32:51.160
<v Speaker 2>about a phantom car that would drive down the street

491
00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:53.640
<v Speaker 2>behind the school and pull into the back parking lot

492
00:32:53.680 --> 00:32:56.440
<v Speaker 2>and circle the back parking lot and then kind of

493
00:32:56.480 --> 00:32:59.039
<v Speaker 2>fade away as it drove out of the parking lot.

494
00:32:59.359 --> 00:33:01.119
<v Speaker 2>And I think it was like an old Mustang or

495
00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:04.319
<v Speaker 2>something like that. But I never saw that stuff either,

496
00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:08.000
<v Speaker 2>But the stories were cool, and uh, yeah, it's just

497
00:33:08.039 --> 00:33:13.839
<v Speaker 2>weird because you whenever you think about the theories behind

498
00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:18.400
<v Speaker 2>how places are haunted, a school doesn't really seem like

499
00:33:18.839 --> 00:33:21.799
<v Speaker 2>a place that would be haunted all that often, but

500
00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:23.200
<v Speaker 2>you hear lots of these stories.

501
00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:27.680
<v Speaker 1>There's enough weird things with schools to the point that like,

502
00:33:28.519 --> 00:33:30.799
<v Speaker 1>so my wife's a teacher and my mom's a teacher.

503
00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:35.519
<v Speaker 1>People in their districts and other districts around me have

504
00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:37.920
<v Speaker 1>been like, hey, like would you bring your stuff in?

505
00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:41.160
<v Speaker 1>And like we walk around because this happened. This happened,

506
00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:46.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, Billy Sue said that he saw somebody hanging

507
00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:52.799
<v Speaker 1>from a rope in you know, the uh whatever, I'm

508
00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:56.519
<v Speaker 1>gonna have strict the locker room, and nobody knows, but

509
00:33:56.640 --> 00:33:59.400
<v Speaker 1>a long time ago, when the school was first being built,

510
00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:02.279
<v Speaker 1>somebody's snow and hung themselves in there. We try to

511
00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:05.519
<v Speaker 1>keep it hush hush, or like, there's so much weird

512
00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:10.840
<v Speaker 1>stuff that now gets filtered to me because of my

513
00:34:11.079 --> 00:34:16.199
<v Speaker 1>job that like, there's probably fifteen fifteen schools I could

514
00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:20.880
<v Speaker 1>go into right now across Kentucky because some of them

515
00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:26.239
<v Speaker 1>are in southeastern Kentucky central Kentucky that have all asked

516
00:34:26.280 --> 00:34:28.519
<v Speaker 1>me like, hey, could you come in and tell us

517
00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:36.280
<v Speaker 1>what's going on. I like to think that because there's

518
00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:41.320
<v Speaker 1>so many people there, it's like a battery or like

519
00:34:41.360 --> 00:34:46.760
<v Speaker 1>a charging station for ghost and maybe some of these

520
00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:50.920
<v Speaker 1>kids are like lighthouses for them or beacons a light, like, hey,

521
00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:55.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm putting off the energy. Come here, and then they

522
00:34:55.480 --> 00:35:00.519
<v Speaker 1>just stay because they can, you know, absorb that energy

523
00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:06.440
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. And that that's an idea that kind of

524
00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:09.800
<v Speaker 1>has stuck with me for a while. One of my

525
00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:11.639
<v Speaker 1>first jobs, I worked at a movie theater that was

526
00:35:11.679 --> 00:35:16.119
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be haunted, and nothing really happened to me.

527
00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:18.639
<v Speaker 1>But like there's a guy that claimed he got abducted

528
00:35:18.639 --> 00:35:21.239
<v Speaker 1>by aliens, and like that was one of the things

529
00:35:21.239 --> 00:35:23.480
<v Speaker 1>he said. He's like, oh, it happened here because so

530
00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:26.159
<v Speaker 1>many people come here and there's so many emotions and

531
00:35:26.159 --> 00:35:29.800
<v Speaker 1>there's so many, you know, so much activity here during

532
00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:33.719
<v Speaker 1>the day that something supernatural can just feed off of it.

533
00:35:34.360 --> 00:35:37.079
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's true or not. I mean,

534
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Zach Began's could say it, and I definitely wouldn't believe it,

535
00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:42.119
<v Speaker 1>but I like to think it's real.

536
00:35:43.159 --> 00:35:46.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was just thinking the same sort of line

537
00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:49.320
<v Speaker 2>of thought as that while we were talking about how

538
00:35:50.039 --> 00:35:52.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, over the years, you have so many kids

539
00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:53.880
<v Speaker 2>that come and go, and a lot of them are

540
00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:57.960
<v Speaker 2>going through puberty. A lot of them are, you know,

541
00:35:59.159 --> 00:36:03.079
<v Speaker 2>dealing with things home and keeping them to themselves whenever

542
00:36:03.079 --> 00:36:05.800
<v Speaker 2>they come to school, but still thinking about lots of

543
00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:08.400
<v Speaker 2>emotions and stuff, all sorts of things going on. And

544
00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:12.800
<v Speaker 2>maybe that is some sort of magnet or you know,

545
00:36:13.559 --> 00:36:16.840
<v Speaker 2>energy thing that these things feed off of. And the

546
00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:19.599
<v Speaker 2>same thing could be true about, you know, all the

547
00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:22.679
<v Speaker 2>kids going out there looking for the pig woman or

548
00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:25.559
<v Speaker 2>the hog lady or whatever her name is. They might

549
00:36:25.679 --> 00:36:30.000
<v Speaker 2>they might be yeah, they might be manifesting their own encounters.

550
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Somehow I got pulled into this. End of October in

551
00:36:33.960 --> 00:36:39.519
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three, a six year old girl told her

552
00:36:39.559 --> 00:36:44.440
<v Speaker 1>parents that, and this is how she phrased it, the

553
00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:49.400
<v Speaker 1>black man hanging from her ceiling is scaring her at night.

554
00:36:49.519 --> 00:36:52.679
<v Speaker 1>So I spoke to them, and I ended up speaking

555
00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:55.639
<v Speaker 1>to the kid like, what do you mean that black man?

556
00:36:55.719 --> 00:37:01.039
<v Speaker 1>Does he look black like you know this person insert

557
00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:04.800
<v Speaker 1>Donald Glover whoever, or like black is in a shadow?

558
00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:08.840
<v Speaker 1>And she said it was like a shadow, So like,

559
00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:10.679
<v Speaker 1>what do you mean he's hanging from your ceiling? Is

560
00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:13.039
<v Speaker 1>he hanging from something, and in my head, I'm like,

561
00:37:13.039 --> 00:37:15.960
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be hanging from a news uh. And what

562
00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:19.639
<v Speaker 1>she said is significantly worse. She said that this guy

563
00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:23.119
<v Speaker 1>that's on her ceiling had his feet on the wall

564
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:26.239
<v Speaker 1>and his hands on the ceiling, and he'd turn his

565
00:37:26.280 --> 00:37:27.719
<v Speaker 1>head so he could stare at her.

566
00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:31.360
<v Speaker 2>Nope, huh huh. Yeah.

567
00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:32.840
<v Speaker 1>The parents are like, what do we do? I'm like,

568
00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:33.719
<v Speaker 1>you burned down the house?

569
00:37:34.119 --> 00:37:35.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeap, what do you mean when you do?

570
00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:39.400
<v Speaker 1>I gave probably the worst horror movie dad advice ever

571
00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:43.039
<v Speaker 1>of talk to him next time, see what he wants,

572
00:37:43.079 --> 00:37:46.519
<v Speaker 1>and see who he is. The next day they called

573
00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:51.360
<v Speaker 1>me and the little girl said his name is Ryan

574
00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:54.119
<v Speaker 1>Hill and he fell through the ice and drowned in Minnesota.

575
00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:55.039
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

576
00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:58.719
<v Speaker 1>And this isn't South, this isn't Southeastern Kentucky. And I

577
00:37:58.760 --> 00:38:00.440
<v Speaker 1>was like, did you ask him what he wanted? And

578
00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:04.000
<v Speaker 1>she's like, yeah, he wants help crossing over. Like again,

579
00:38:04.159 --> 00:38:08.559
<v Speaker 1>most stereotypical horror movie shit I have ever seen. I

580
00:38:08.599 --> 00:38:11.719
<v Speaker 1>tried to do some research. I couldn't find much. My

581
00:38:13.159 --> 00:38:16.400
<v Speaker 1>law school connections are still there and they have access

582
00:38:16.440 --> 00:38:18.800
<v Speaker 1>to a lot of databases, so I was like, hey,

583
00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:22.440
<v Speaker 1>can you find me a Ryan Hill? That drowned in Minnesota,

584
00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:26.519
<v Speaker 1>that fell through the ice thirty minutes later. But like,

585
00:38:26.559 --> 00:38:28.760
<v Speaker 1>here's the Ryan Hill he died on this day he

586
00:38:28.840 --> 00:38:31.840
<v Speaker 1>fell through the ice in Minnesota. Like cool, Send me

587
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:34.760
<v Speaker 1>as much as you can through that. I was able

588
00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:39.559
<v Speaker 1>to find an obituary in a photo, so we got together.

589
00:38:39.679 --> 00:38:43.639
<v Speaker 1>We got like six or eight photos of random white

590
00:38:43.719 --> 00:38:47.559
<v Speaker 1>guys and put this guy's photo in the middle of it.

591
00:38:48.039 --> 00:38:52.400
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, hey, that guy, does he look

592
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:55.000
<v Speaker 1>like any of these? And she pointed like straight at

593
00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:59.119
<v Speaker 1>the obituary photo. Was she like, i' Sam, I don't know.

594
00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:01.000
<v Speaker 2>How do you explain that.

595
00:39:02.360 --> 00:39:08.440
<v Speaker 1>They're in southeastern Kentucky. This person died in Minnesota. The

596
00:39:08.519 --> 00:39:13.960
<v Speaker 1>only connection I found is the oldest map I was

597
00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:17.239
<v Speaker 1>able to find to that area was from nineteen thirty

598
00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:21.320
<v Speaker 1>seven where their house is, and it's on top of

599
00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:24.519
<v Speaker 1>like a limestone and karst bed because that's where the

600
00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:27.760
<v Speaker 1>mines that were in the area we're looking for in

601
00:39:27.760 --> 00:39:32.760
<v Speaker 1>that time period. And like places, there's other places that

602
00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:34.960
<v Speaker 1>are super haunted that are like that, like the Belwich

603
00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:39.639
<v Speaker 1>Farm in Adams, Tennessee. So I'm like, maybe this is

604
00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:44.880
<v Speaker 1>a ghost lighthouse. I don't know. Man, The last time

605
00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:48.199
<v Speaker 1>I checked up on them. I you know, I don't

606
00:39:48.199 --> 00:39:51.360
<v Speaker 1>know what to do. I was like, hey, here's a spiritualist.

607
00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:52.760
<v Speaker 1>She might be able to help you. I would just

608
00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:55.719
<v Speaker 1>be like, hey, I'm six, I don't know what I'm doing.

609
00:39:57.239 --> 00:39:58.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, hey man.

610
00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:01.840
<v Speaker 1>Last time I checked up on him, which was a

611
00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:06.320
<v Speaker 1>couple months ago, they haven't seen him. Apparently he has

612
00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:13.360
<v Speaker 1>moved on. Now this girl's Quinn brother, which they're now,

613
00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:18.719
<v Speaker 1>what's eight. He apparently sees shadow figures looking in from

614
00:40:18.760 --> 00:40:26.039
<v Speaker 1>the hallway that are his size. So still still researching that.

615
00:40:26.400 --> 00:40:30.760
<v Speaker 1>But uh, I don't know. There's just weird. Weird stuff

616
00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:31.719
<v Speaker 1>finds their way to me.

617
00:40:32.440 --> 00:40:38.599
<v Speaker 2>So what's your favorite case or even topic, like what's

618
00:40:39.079 --> 00:40:41.400
<v Speaker 2>your thing that you're into.

619
00:40:41.559 --> 00:40:43.440
<v Speaker 1>I would say the thing I'm into the most, just

620
00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:49.519
<v Speaker 1>because i've seen one is like UFOs, Like it is

621
00:40:49.559 --> 00:40:53.000
<v Speaker 1>most likely not alien it's most likely government stuff. When

622
00:40:53.039 --> 00:40:56.920
<v Speaker 1>I was thirteen, so maybe a little bit less than

623
00:40:56.920 --> 00:41:00.519
<v Speaker 1>fifteen years ago, I don't have enough fingers for this math. Me.

624
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:02.800
<v Speaker 1>My stepdad was a truck driver, so like we went

625
00:41:03.199 --> 00:41:08.679
<v Speaker 1>across the country and we were I know, we were

626
00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:12.000
<v Speaker 1>close to Roswell, uh because I wanted to go and

627
00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:15.559
<v Speaker 1>they don't let semi trucks into like down Main Street

628
00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:18.639
<v Speaker 1>in Roswell because it's so small. But we were driving

629
00:41:18.679 --> 00:41:21.159
<v Speaker 1>down the Understate. I was like, look there's a UFO.

630
00:41:21.559 --> 00:41:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Look look look he looked up. He goes there's an UFO.

631
00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:28.440
<v Speaker 1>He like he doesn't believe it. Anything. A ghost could

632
00:41:28.440 --> 00:41:31.360
<v Speaker 1>appear in front of him and disappear and he'd be like, ah, magicians,

633
00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:34.000
<v Speaker 1>like I felt like, but he saw was UFO, So

634
00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:36.239
<v Speaker 1>like I was amped. I'm like, somebody else saw it,

635
00:41:37.079 --> 00:41:41.559
<v Speaker 1>and it was just like a translucent triangle. It eventually

636
00:41:41.639 --> 00:41:45.440
<v Speaker 1>like blinked, blinked, disappeared. Maybe my eyes unfocused, I don't know.

637
00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:48.719
<v Speaker 1>And the thing that like solidified that for me is

638
00:41:48.760 --> 00:41:51.000
<v Speaker 1>we went to a fly in Jay truck stop like

639
00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:54.119
<v Speaker 1>thirty minutes down the road, and our waitress is like,

640
00:41:54.159 --> 00:41:56.360
<v Speaker 1>what's wrong. He's like, I swear to god we saw UFO.

641
00:41:56.480 --> 00:41:58.480
<v Speaker 1>And she's like, give me a second, and she came

642
00:41:58.519 --> 00:42:03.599
<v Speaker 1>back with like an old polaroid. It looked exactly like

643
00:42:03.639 --> 00:42:05.440
<v Speaker 1>what we saw, except that picture was taken at night.

644
00:42:06.199 --> 00:42:07.920
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, yeah, that's it and my set

645
00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:10.360
<v Speaker 1>that's like other people see and she's like, yeah, the

646
00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:12.840
<v Speaker 1>people that just walked out, they said they saw it too.

647
00:42:13.400 --> 00:42:16.639
<v Speaker 1>People see it all the time. Don't know what it is.

648
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:21.159
<v Speaker 1>I mean, most likely military aircraft. If I had to guess,

649
00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:25.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna say it's little Green men. But UFO

650
00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:29.559
<v Speaker 1>stories geeked me out, especially because like I'm close enough

651
00:42:29.559 --> 00:42:30.840
<v Speaker 1>to go to right pat and go to the Air

652
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:34.039
<v Speaker 1>Force Museum and be like, Ah, that's the UFO from

653
00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:36.880
<v Speaker 1>this episode of X Files because it's finally been declassified.

654
00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:40.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's crazy. A polaroid though, Like, you can't fake

655
00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:41.639
<v Speaker 2>a polaroid.

656
00:42:43.239 --> 00:42:46.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean at that point, she could have drew

657
00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:48.079
<v Speaker 1>it and crayon, and I think I'd still freak out, like.

658
00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:52.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's it. Yeah. I don't know what to think

659
00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:57.639
<v Speaker 2>about the UFO stuff. I've seen, like one thing during

660
00:42:57.679 --> 00:43:01.119
<v Speaker 2>the day with my cousin that I can't explain. Back

661
00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:05.400
<v Speaker 2>whenever I was like sixteen, and then I saw some

662
00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:08.079
<v Speaker 2>strange lights that I still don't have an explanation for

663
00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:14.320
<v Speaker 2>that was just really bizarre. Whenever I it's probably about

664
00:43:14.320 --> 00:43:18.920
<v Speaker 2>a year before that actually, but the strange lights that

665
00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:23.280
<v Speaker 2>I saw. The weirdest thing about that is me and

666
00:43:23.360 --> 00:43:29.519
<v Speaker 2>my buddy were staying at my family's lake house and

667
00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:34.679
<v Speaker 2>he was into UFO stuff. I wasn't at that time.

668
00:43:35.199 --> 00:43:38.519
<v Speaker 2>I was always into ghost stuff. But he was just like, hey,

669
00:43:38.599 --> 00:43:41.639
<v Speaker 2>let's go look for UFOs, just like you can't just

670
00:43:41.679 --> 00:43:44.159
<v Speaker 2>go look for UFOs. What are you talking about? And

671
00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:48.000
<v Speaker 2>then we yeah, and then we went and saw UFOs

672
00:43:48.039 --> 00:43:49.679
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, what the hell is going on?

673
00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:55.320
<v Speaker 2>And we went the the lake house that we were

674
00:43:55.360 --> 00:44:00.400
<v Speaker 2>staying in and where we were at was probably a

675
00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:03.840
<v Speaker 2>quarter mile away, and we walked all the way back

676
00:44:03.840 --> 00:44:06.559
<v Speaker 2>to the house, got a cassette recorder because that's like

677
00:44:06.599 --> 00:44:09.400
<v Speaker 2>all we had at the time to document anything with.

678
00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:12.760
<v Speaker 2>And we took the cassette recorder back down there and

679
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:15.880
<v Speaker 2>described what was going on. And they were still there,

680
00:44:16.800 --> 00:44:18.360
<v Speaker 2>so like I don't know how, I don't know how

681
00:44:18.440 --> 00:44:21.639
<v Speaker 2>much time that took, but you know, so like if

682
00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:24.159
<v Speaker 2>it was airplanes or something like, why would they still

683
00:44:24.199 --> 00:44:24.559
<v Speaker 2>be there?

684
00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:28.679
<v Speaker 1>And what's the Can you give a general location of.

685
00:44:28.599 --> 00:44:39.960
<v Speaker 2>That northeastern Oklahoma? Like around the closest town is going

686
00:44:40.039 --> 00:44:45.320
<v Speaker 2>to be a place called Prior, Oklahoma in like Lake Hudson,

687
00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:52.800
<v Speaker 2>Grand Lake area, and there's like a some sort back then.

688
00:44:53.079 --> 00:44:56.320
<v Speaker 2>Things have changed now, but at the time I do

689
00:44:56.440 --> 00:45:03.079
<v Speaker 2>know that there was some sort of military base up

690
00:45:03.119 --> 00:45:06.639
<v Speaker 2>in Kansas, I want to say, either Kansas or Missouri.

691
00:45:06.679 --> 00:45:09.239
<v Speaker 2>That every once in a while we would see like

692
00:45:09.320 --> 00:45:12.559
<v Speaker 2>black hawks and stuff fly over the lake house, and

693
00:45:12.599 --> 00:45:14.960
<v Speaker 2>it was from that base, so like I was used

694
00:45:14.960 --> 00:45:18.039
<v Speaker 2>to that sort of thing. But these, whatever they were,

695
00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:22.960
<v Speaker 2>or just like single points of light, they didn't really

696
00:45:23.000 --> 00:45:26.239
<v Speaker 2>look any different than stars. They weren't blinking or anything.

697
00:45:27.400 --> 00:45:34.199
<v Speaker 2>High elevation. There was two of them, and I didn't

698
00:45:34.320 --> 00:45:38.119
<v Speaker 2>really think anything that much of them at first until

699
00:45:38.159 --> 00:45:40.840
<v Speaker 2>I saw them start doing just like right angle turns

700
00:45:41.079 --> 00:45:45.679
<v Speaker 2>in the sky and it was just nothing breaking, you know,

701
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:51.159
<v Speaker 2>going one direction and just complete course change. And eventually

702
00:45:51.920 --> 00:45:56.400
<v Speaker 2>they kind of were spread apart and then they were

703
00:45:56.519 --> 00:45:58.679
<v Speaker 2>going out of an angle to where they were going

704
00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:02.599
<v Speaker 2>to intersect with one another. Now, obviously they're up in

705
00:46:02.639 --> 00:46:04.719
<v Speaker 2>the sky, I'm down on the ground. I have no

706
00:46:04.800 --> 00:46:07.400
<v Speaker 2>idea if they're the same elevation or anything like that,

707
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:13.559
<v Speaker 2>so who knows. But whenever they reached the I guess

708
00:46:13.639 --> 00:46:18.480
<v Speaker 2>pinnacle where they would run into one another, it formed

709
00:46:18.519 --> 00:46:20.639
<v Speaker 2>like one thing and then just shot off and was

710
00:46:20.679 --> 00:46:25.039
<v Speaker 2>gone from site. Didn't see it anymore, and that's when

711
00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:29.000
<v Speaker 2>we left the area. What that was, I don't have

712
00:46:29.119 --> 00:46:32.880
<v Speaker 2>any idea but it's not like anything I've seen the

713
00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:35.480
<v Speaker 2>rest of my life and nothing I had seen up

714
00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:36.360
<v Speaker 2>to that point.

715
00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:41.039
<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. So it looks like you're not the only one.

716
00:46:42.519 --> 00:46:46.599
<v Speaker 1>Project Bluebook investigated UFOs there in nineteen forty seven, in

717
00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:53.760
<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty nine to the point that some dude in

718
00:46:53.840 --> 00:46:57.960
<v Speaker 1>the fifties kept seeing UFOs and he created the International

719
00:46:58.039 --> 00:47:03.440
<v Speaker 1>UFO Bureau in Oklahoma. The city they investigated over eight

720
00:47:03.519 --> 00:47:07.639
<v Speaker 1>hundred UFO tases in the northeast.

721
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:08.320
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

722
00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:12.280
<v Speaker 1>And they're like, there's descriptions of it, like I see

723
00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:17.559
<v Speaker 1>single balls of light, I see triangles. Police officers and

724
00:47:17.639 --> 00:47:20.519
<v Speaker 1>sheriff deputies have seen these things.

725
00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:26.760
<v Speaker 2>So here's something crazy for you. Uh this Within the

726
00:47:26.800 --> 00:47:31.119
<v Speaker 2>past year, I had a guest on this podcast that

727
00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:35.519
<v Speaker 2>was talking to me about bigfoot stuff, and he's in

728
00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:39.719
<v Speaker 2>the same general area now going into this conversation. He

729
00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:42.440
<v Speaker 2>didn't know that I had any history with this lake

730
00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:45.440
<v Speaker 2>where I live. It's like an hour and a half

731
00:47:45.480 --> 00:47:48.119
<v Speaker 2>away from this place, so it's it's not like something

732
00:47:48.159 --> 00:47:52.119
<v Speaker 2>that somebody would connect me to or anything. And like

733
00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:54.360
<v Speaker 2>I do many of my guests, I asked him, have

734
00:47:54.440 --> 00:47:57.960
<v Speaker 2>you ever experienced anything besides bigfoot? Because a lot of

735
00:47:58.000 --> 00:48:02.599
<v Speaker 2>people experience multiple types of DOMA. And he tells me

736
00:48:02.840 --> 00:48:06.159
<v Speaker 2>a UFO story from the same lake that I was at,

737
00:48:06.320 --> 00:48:10.400
<v Speaker 2>and to give you an idea, whenever I saw these

738
00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:12.719
<v Speaker 2>lights in the sky, I was standing on a boat

739
00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:15.960
<v Speaker 2>ramp at the lake, so I was at the lake itself.

740
00:48:16.920 --> 00:48:20.440
<v Speaker 2>And he told me, I can't remember when it was.

741
00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:26.559
<v Speaker 2>I want to say it was maybe in the early

742
00:48:26.639 --> 00:48:29.599
<v Speaker 2>two thousands. I'd have to go back and listen. I'm

743
00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:32.320
<v Speaker 2>not sure. But he was out on the lake fishing

744
00:48:32.840 --> 00:48:36.239
<v Speaker 2>and he was with somebody I can't remember who, but

745
00:48:36.360 --> 00:48:39.760
<v Speaker 2>he swears up and down that he saw a UFO

746
00:48:40.760 --> 00:48:43.320
<v Speaker 2>come out of the lake and just shoot straight up

747
00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:45.679
<v Speaker 2>into the air and disappear. And he said it was

748
00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:50.599
<v Speaker 2>like a classic disc shape with multiple colored lights on

749
00:48:50.639 --> 00:48:54.000
<v Speaker 2>it and everything. But he said it was only about

750
00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:56.679
<v Speaker 2>the size of a car. I think it wasn't very

751
00:48:56.679 --> 00:48:59.840
<v Speaker 2>big at all. But it came out of the same lake,

752
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:02.920
<v Speaker 2>said and I thought, that's crazy, Like this dude doesn't

753
00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:05.760
<v Speaker 2>know me, he doesn't know about my UFO siding there,

754
00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:08.280
<v Speaker 2>and he's telling me he saw a UFO come out

755
00:49:08.320 --> 00:49:11.159
<v Speaker 2>of the lake, Like that's nuts. So I thought that

756
00:49:11.239 --> 00:49:11.840
<v Speaker 2>was pretty cool.

757
00:49:13.320 --> 00:49:16.280
<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. I mean, so the first time I heard

758
00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:20.159
<v Speaker 1>of the UFO coming out of water was the USS

759
00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:24.840
<v Speaker 1>nimic stuff. Yeah, but it sounds like I keep hearing

760
00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:28.119
<v Speaker 1>more and more people have seen that. They just I

761
00:49:28.119 --> 00:49:30.519
<v Speaker 1>guess didn't want to admit it for a while.

762
00:49:31.360 --> 00:49:33.599
<v Speaker 2>A buddy of mine, Phil Poulin, who runs the Pair

763
00:49:33.639 --> 00:49:37.679
<v Speaker 2>of Breakdown YouTube channel. I don't know how much information

764
00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:41.159
<v Speaker 2>he wants me to give out, but he used to

765
00:49:41.159 --> 00:49:44.119
<v Speaker 2>be a police officer and he responded to a call

766
00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:49.840
<v Speaker 2>one nay about strange lights I believe in Washington, either

767
00:49:50.039 --> 00:49:52.440
<v Speaker 2>at a lake or a harbor or something, and he

768
00:49:52.519 --> 00:49:55.440
<v Speaker 2>went and checked on it and he saw, I mean,

769
00:49:55.519 --> 00:49:58.199
<v Speaker 2>what people would call a UFO like in the water there.

770
00:49:59.480 --> 00:50:03.400
<v Speaker 2>And he's actually been on a television show talking about it,

771
00:50:04.519 --> 00:50:08.440
<v Speaker 2>maybe confidentially. It might have been anonymous. So if I,

772
00:50:08.599 --> 00:50:12.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, gave it away, sorry, but yeah, he.

773
00:50:12.239 --> 00:50:13.960
<v Speaker 1>May have poured a full Bob Lazaar.

774
00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:16.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a couple but no.

775
00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

776
00:50:17.039 --> 00:50:22.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, UFO stuff. USO stuff is crazy. I never thought

777
00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:27.000
<v Speaker 2>we would be in times where the government's like actually

778
00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:30.039
<v Speaker 2>publicly looking into it and like saying, yeah, there's some

779
00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:34.000
<v Speaker 2>stuff that we don't really have explanations for whether that

780
00:50:34.039 --> 00:50:38.000
<v Speaker 2>will ever lead to anything, or if there's an ulterior

781
00:50:38.119 --> 00:50:41.519
<v Speaker 2>motive behind it. I don't know, but it's still interesting stuff.

782
00:50:42.119 --> 00:50:48.079
<v Speaker 1>I need more information. So I don't think I've ever

783
00:50:48.159 --> 00:50:50.039
<v Speaker 1>talked about this on my channel, and I need to.

784
00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:53.760
<v Speaker 2>Back back.

785
00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:58.079
<v Speaker 1>When I worked at the movie theater, maybe maybe a

786
00:50:58.079 --> 00:51:01.800
<v Speaker 1>little bit after that. We were all me and three

787
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:07.039
<v Speaker 1>other dudes were at the gym, and every night there

788
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:10.920
<v Speaker 1>was like a Vietnam veteran that would always be in

789
00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:14.599
<v Speaker 1>there and work out. One of my friends he worked

790
00:51:14.599 --> 00:51:17.480
<v Speaker 1>at the gym, so like he's like that guy talks

791
00:51:17.480 --> 00:51:19.400
<v Speaker 1>to us all the time. I'm gonna, you know, pull

792
00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:20.960
<v Speaker 1>up this thing and see if he's just always in

793
00:51:21.000 --> 00:51:23.159
<v Speaker 1>here when we're in here. When he pulled up his

794
00:51:23.199 --> 00:51:26.599
<v Speaker 1>profile that said, like this guy has severe PTSD, leave

795
00:51:26.679 --> 00:51:28.800
<v Speaker 1>him alone if he wants to talk to you, like,

796
00:51:28.880 --> 00:51:30.920
<v Speaker 1>let him talk to you, like this is per request

797
00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:33.760
<v Speaker 1>of his daughter or whatever. So he told us that

798
00:51:33.920 --> 00:51:37.480
<v Speaker 1>we left that guy alone. One night. We're talking about

799
00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:39.719
<v Speaker 1>a guy that we used to work with at the

800
00:51:39.760 --> 00:51:43.039
<v Speaker 1>movie theater who, Uh, as much as I want to

801
00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:47.239
<v Speaker 1>think he's crazy, he was actually the lawyer of one

802
00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:50.079
<v Speaker 1>of the SEC football teams. To get to that point,

803
00:51:50.119 --> 00:51:51.960
<v Speaker 1>I assume you have to not be crazy and actually

804
00:51:51.960 --> 00:51:56.000
<v Speaker 1>be pretty good at your job. But he like swears

805
00:51:56.000 --> 00:51:57.840
<v Speaker 1>and I can get more into it if you want.

806
00:51:58.320 --> 00:52:01.199
<v Speaker 1>That he was abducted by alien one night when he

807
00:52:01.239 --> 00:52:03.400
<v Speaker 1>was working at the movies, to the point he's got

808
00:52:03.400 --> 00:52:07.119
<v Speaker 1>a tattoo of it. So we're we're telling that story

809
00:52:08.280 --> 00:52:12.840
<v Speaker 1>and old Vietnam guy hears us and he's like, if

810
00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:15.480
<v Speaker 1>you don't talk about aliens, and like we're like, ah, shit,

811
00:52:15.559 --> 00:52:17.360
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna make fun of us. We're like, yeah, he goes,

812
00:52:18.360 --> 00:52:21.320
<v Speaker 1>you hear about the USS nimics And this was before

813
00:52:21.360 --> 00:52:24.599
<v Speaker 1>I think I think this was right before the New

814
00:52:24.639 --> 00:52:29.199
<v Speaker 1>York Times article in twenty fifteen. So he tells us

815
00:52:29.199 --> 00:52:31.719
<v Speaker 1>about it, so I assume he heard about it through

816
00:52:32.559 --> 00:52:35.840
<v Speaker 1>somebody he knew in the military. And then he proceeds

817
00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:39.400
<v Speaker 1>to like start telling us some weird shit. I want

818
00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:41.239
<v Speaker 1>to preface that that, like, I'm not saying that what

819
00:52:41.280 --> 00:52:44.039
<v Speaker 1>he's saying was true, but every other story that he

820
00:52:44.119 --> 00:52:46.360
<v Speaker 1>told us after that day, like hey, I got a

821
00:52:46.360 --> 00:52:48.800
<v Speaker 1>purple heart. He brought in the purple heart, like he

822
00:52:49.119 --> 00:52:51.199
<v Speaker 1>brought in metal or not purple heart. I don't know

823
00:52:51.199 --> 00:52:53.360
<v Speaker 1>what metal it was, but he would like bring in

824
00:52:53.400 --> 00:52:55.159
<v Speaker 1>the metals he would tell us about and everything else,

825
00:52:55.239 --> 00:52:59.320
<v Speaker 1>so he's backed up everything else. He claims that he

826
00:52:59.440 --> 00:53:04.719
<v Speaker 1>was working uh security at some sort of air base

827
00:53:05.960 --> 00:53:08.760
<v Speaker 1>and that they kept seeing UFOs and like they kept

828
00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:11.559
<v Speaker 1>calling it in and you know, planes would be scrambled

829
00:53:11.599 --> 00:53:15.840
<v Speaker 1>to check them out. Del Eventually, like he became friends

830
00:53:15.880 --> 00:53:18.840
<v Speaker 1>with people there. He went out to lunch with them,

831
00:53:19.199 --> 00:53:20.719
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, you got to stop calling in those

832
00:53:20.800 --> 00:53:24.280
<v Speaker 1>UFOs And he's like, why, like fucking their planes lining

833
00:53:24.320 --> 00:53:27.320
<v Speaker 1>over whatever, Like no, that's like that's our shit. You're

834
00:53:27.320 --> 00:53:29.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna get one of these pilots killed because if they

835
00:53:29.320 --> 00:53:31.760
<v Speaker 1>see it, they report back when kill them. He's like,

836
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<v Speaker 1>what why do we have that stuff? And again he

837
00:53:35.519 --> 00:53:37.000
<v Speaker 1>could be full of shit. The person I was talking

838
00:53:37.000 --> 00:53:39.159
<v Speaker 1>to him could be full of shit, but like they

839
00:53:39.239 --> 00:53:43.039
<v Speaker 1>proceed They allegedly proceeded to tell him that the United

840
00:53:43.119 --> 00:53:49.880
<v Speaker 1>States knows of multiple different races of aliens, that they

841
00:53:50.199 --> 00:53:53.639
<v Speaker 1>share technology with different countries. That's why we were able

842
00:53:53.679 --> 00:53:59.599
<v Speaker 1>to advance so quickly. You know, build built the first planes,

843
00:53:59.639 --> 00:54:02.280
<v Speaker 1>then we went to the Moon thirty years later, and

844
00:54:02.320 --> 00:54:05.119
<v Speaker 1>now we have you know, ten times the technology that

845
00:54:05.199 --> 00:54:08.280
<v Speaker 1>sent us to the moon in our pocket. Like they

846
00:54:08.360 --> 00:54:10.800
<v Speaker 1>proceeded to tell him tell us all this shit. So

847
00:54:11.760 --> 00:54:15.599
<v Speaker 1>he told us that stuff. Whatever, life went on like

848
00:54:15.679 --> 00:54:21.639
<v Speaker 1>normal before before I moved to go to law school.

849
00:54:22.280 --> 00:54:24.960
<v Speaker 1>We saw him and we're like, hey, we're all kind

850
00:54:24.960 --> 00:54:28.119
<v Speaker 1>of like leaving this area. Were you full of shit

851
00:54:28.159 --> 00:54:30.480
<v Speaker 1>when you told us that? And he goes, no, I

852
00:54:30.519 --> 00:54:34.119
<v Speaker 1>swear to god, I wasn't. I'll try to call up

853
00:54:34.119 --> 00:54:36.519
<v Speaker 1>that guy and see if he can tell me more information.

854
00:54:36.599 --> 00:54:37.880
<v Speaker 1>If you all want to, like, come back to the

855
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:40.800
<v Speaker 1>gym tomorrow. We went to the gym the next day.

856
00:54:41.440 --> 00:54:45.880
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't there. Then like later that week, the people

857
00:54:45.920 --> 00:54:47.840
<v Speaker 1>that like still live there went to the gym there.

858
00:54:48.800 --> 00:54:50.400
<v Speaker 1>They asked our buddy that worked there, like, hey, you

859
00:54:50.400 --> 00:54:52.519
<v Speaker 1>pull up his profile and see like if he's been here,

860
00:54:52.639 --> 00:54:55.360
<v Speaker 1>if he's just dodging us. His account was deleted.

861
00:54:55.920 --> 00:54:56.280
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

862
00:54:57.320 --> 00:55:00.760
<v Speaker 1>A couple a couple of years later actually, because it

863
00:55:00.840 --> 00:55:05.480
<v Speaker 1>was twenty twenty two, one of the guys we went

864
00:55:05.519 --> 00:55:07.400
<v Speaker 1>to the gym with talked to that guy with us

865
00:55:07.440 --> 00:55:12.880
<v Speaker 1>all the time. He walked into an Asian restaurant like

866
00:55:12.920 --> 00:55:16.480
<v Speaker 1>a buffet and solemn, and that guy was there. He's

867
00:55:16.519 --> 00:55:19.039
<v Speaker 1>talking to somebody and he's like, hey, man, I'm not

868
00:55:19.039 --> 00:55:21.119
<v Speaker 1>singing in a while and he's like that, he said

869
00:55:21.119 --> 00:55:22.400
<v Speaker 1>the guy, he was like, how do you know? I

870
00:55:22.440 --> 00:55:25.840
<v Speaker 1>was here? Like what do you mean? He's like, you

871
00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:28.920
<v Speaker 1>sawed me, didn't you? Like? It was good? Have been PTSD.

872
00:55:29.840 --> 00:55:32.280
<v Speaker 1>But he freaked out And then they all said that

873
00:55:32.280 --> 00:55:34.960
<v Speaker 1>they were followed by like black fans. I wasn't there.

874
00:55:35.280 --> 00:55:39.159
<v Speaker 1>They might just be crazy, but uh, maybe they got

875
00:55:39.199 --> 00:55:41.760
<v Speaker 1>told too much or he said too much or.

876
00:55:42.639 --> 00:55:45.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know. It just seems like you hear

877
00:55:45.719 --> 00:55:50.199
<v Speaker 2>these stories like that coming from different people at different times,

878
00:55:51.480 --> 00:55:54.719
<v Speaker 2>where there's got to be something to it. Man, There's

879
00:55:54.800 --> 00:55:57.639
<v Speaker 2>got to be a grain of truth somewhere in there,

880
00:55:57.880 --> 00:56:01.519
<v Speaker 2>even if it's not all totally accurate. It people didn't

881
00:56:01.639 --> 00:56:03.880
<v Speaker 2>just imagine all this stuff on their own and come

882
00:56:03.960 --> 00:56:07.119
<v Speaker 2>up with the same things and the same stories over

883
00:56:07.199 --> 00:56:10.679
<v Speaker 2>and over and over. What's the story with the guy

884
00:56:10.719 --> 00:56:13.480
<v Speaker 2>that got abducted at the movie theater? Though? That's crazy.

885
00:56:14.440 --> 00:56:19.480
<v Speaker 1>This dude's a law professor. He's a very successful lawyer.

886
00:56:20.360 --> 00:56:23.199
<v Speaker 1>He was part of the night cleaning crew, which they

887
00:56:23.199 --> 00:56:27.760
<v Speaker 1>come in after the last movies over. So he went

888
00:56:27.800 --> 00:56:29.920
<v Speaker 1>out the back door of the theater and he was

889
00:56:29.960 --> 00:56:34.719
<v Speaker 1>going to take out trash and like he was apparently

890
00:56:34.760 --> 00:56:38.639
<v Speaker 1>blinded by this giant bright light, so his eyes like

891
00:56:38.719 --> 00:56:42.880
<v Speaker 1>adjusted to what he thought was a spotlight. And for reference,

892
00:56:42.880 --> 00:56:46.440
<v Speaker 1>like this movie theater is at the bottom of a

893
00:56:46.519 --> 00:56:49.440
<v Speaker 1>giant hill and at the top of the hill is

894
00:56:49.599 --> 00:56:54.280
<v Speaker 1>a it's pretty shitty but like an arena, and it

895
00:56:54.320 --> 00:56:56.119
<v Speaker 1>was being built at the time, so he thought it

896
00:56:56.119 --> 00:56:59.000
<v Speaker 1>was a spotlight up there. But then he realized that,

897
00:56:59.079 --> 00:57:02.320
<v Speaker 1>like this l was moving and there was a hum

898
00:57:02.360 --> 00:57:05.519
<v Speaker 1>in the air. So he watched this you know, super

899
00:57:05.559 --> 00:57:08.960
<v Speaker 1>bright UFO fly around, and he said that he was

900
00:57:09.000 --> 00:57:13.719
<v Speaker 1>amazed and it was, you know, like the most transformative

901
00:57:13.719 --> 00:57:18.719
<v Speaker 1>moments of his life. Right the point that he's got

902
00:57:18.719 --> 00:57:20.960
<v Speaker 1>a giant tat two of it on his arm that

903
00:57:21.079 --> 00:57:22.559
<v Speaker 1>he's like, hey, let me tell you the story, and

904
00:57:22.559 --> 00:57:25.880
<v Speaker 1>he'll like wall up his sleeve. So after a few minutes,

905
00:57:26.079 --> 00:57:29.320
<v Speaker 1>he said, the UFO disappeared and he went back inside

906
00:57:30.039 --> 00:57:33.000
<v Speaker 1>to tell the rest of the cleaning crew that he

907
00:57:33.039 --> 00:57:36.159
<v Speaker 1>saw UFO. Says, he walked up to them, They're all

908
00:57:36.199 --> 00:57:40.960
<v Speaker 1>gathered in the lobby. They all seemed like relieved, I

909
00:57:40.960 --> 00:57:46.519
<v Speaker 1>guess uh that he was there, and then uh, like

910
00:57:46.599 --> 00:57:49.719
<v Speaker 1>the manager started yelling at it. So he began to

911
00:57:49.760 --> 00:57:53.400
<v Speaker 1>explain like I saw Ufo. Although why you're mad? I

912
00:57:53.400 --> 00:57:55.519
<v Speaker 1>was only outside for like two or three minutes watching

913
00:57:55.559 --> 00:57:59.360
<v Speaker 1>this thing, and they all got like super quiet, Like

914
00:58:00.039 --> 00:58:02.280
<v Speaker 1>he hadn't seen you for hours. Your car was in

915
00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:04.719
<v Speaker 1>the parking lot. We couldn't find you, and we were

916
00:58:04.719 --> 00:58:08.000
<v Speaker 1>deciding if we should call the cops and report you missing.

917
00:58:09.119 --> 00:58:12.880
<v Speaker 1>He had been gone for like four hours. He doesn't,

918
00:58:13.199 --> 00:58:15.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, He's not like Travis Walton. He can't tell

919
00:58:15.639 --> 00:58:19.159
<v Speaker 1>you know that he was on a ship and what

920
00:58:19.440 --> 00:58:22.599
<v Speaker 1>he none of that. But he's like I saw UFO

921
00:58:22.760 --> 00:58:25.239
<v Speaker 1>came back in lost three hours of time, to the

922
00:58:25.239 --> 00:58:27.199
<v Speaker 1>point that they almost called the cops because they couldn't

923
00:58:27.199 --> 00:58:30.159
<v Speaker 1>find me. And they even said that they had walked

924
00:58:30.199 --> 00:58:31.840
<v Speaker 1>out there by the trash cans the check and see

925
00:58:31.840 --> 00:58:32.760
<v Speaker 1>if he was back there too.

926
00:58:33.639 --> 00:58:37.000
<v Speaker 2>Man. That scares the crap out of me, dude, Like,

927
00:58:38.159 --> 00:58:41.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I haven't you know, I don't think it's

928
00:58:41.760 --> 00:58:44.920
<v Speaker 2>just the idea that you know, you hear those stories

929
00:58:45.280 --> 00:58:49.679
<v Speaker 2>so much in the UFO world, the missing time stuff,

930
00:58:49.719 --> 00:58:53.960
<v Speaker 2>where like just the idea that you could have lived

931
00:58:53.960 --> 00:58:59.480
<v Speaker 2>through some horrific incident and don't even know it. Oh,

932
00:58:59.599 --> 00:59:03.519
<v Speaker 2>it's it's terrifying. I appreciate you coming on and talking

933
00:59:03.559 --> 00:59:05.199
<v Speaker 2>to me, and we'll have to do it again.

934
00:59:05.760 --> 00:59:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Brother, I'm down, but yeah, I appreciate it. Man.

935
00:59:09.960 --> 00:59:12.519
<v Speaker 2>If you've had an encounter with something you can't explain,

936
00:59:12.639 --> 00:59:16.239
<v Speaker 2>like bigfoot, dog man, ghosts, UFOs, or anything else, send

937
00:59:16.320 --> 00:59:18.440
<v Speaker 2>me an email a Bigfoot Crossroads at JEMA dot com.

938
00:59:18.599 --> 00:59:21.559
<v Speaker 2>Check out the website Bigfoot Crossroads dot com. You can

939
00:59:21.559 --> 00:59:24.679
<v Speaker 2>find links to social media, past episodes, merchandise, everything you

940
00:59:24.719 --> 00:59:27.559
<v Speaker 2>need all in one place. And until next time, remember

941
00:59:28.519 --> 00:59:56.199
<v Speaker 2>there's something in the woods.
