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his favorite Halloween candy and where he's going for high
school football. Tonight we got Darnell Dixon double D on
the line. How we living TODAYBD?
Speaker 2: Hoppy Halloween to you, Happy Halloween to you. As well.
Your daughter probably hasn't old enough, but her first Halloween
where she recognizes the trick of knocking on a door
saying trick or treat and getting handy, the realization in
their eyes just they go, this is cool, this is great.
I remember my son, my oldest son, when he first
recognized how that whole thing works and how he raced
from door to door from then on, They'll never be
the same.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right now, you're right. She has no idea what's
going on. She can't even eat candy, even though she's
got the four teeth coming into next year. Next year though,
she will, so I'm looking forward to that. But you're
not wrong. Before we get into football talking basketball talk,
what's your favorite candy? What did you like as a
kid and now as an adult? What's on the Darnell
Dixon the Dixon Family bucket list for candy.
Speaker 2: Well, peanut butter is always my favorite. So you can
say peanut butter or M and MS. But I do
have to mention that Target has this peanut butter monster
snack ooh, which is just fan pretay fantastic. I love that,
by the way, I would do you want to mention
before we get into football and basketball. I just watched
the Big twelve women's across country final, and we talk about,
you know, Bear Bachmeier's an amazing freshman and aj debonsa.
Jane Hedigren, and I'm not exaggerating, might be the Tiger
Woods of distance running for the women in this United
States over the next decade or so. She just won
the Big Twelve championship by forty five seconds. She just
ran a sub nineteen minute six thousand meters. She ran
eighteen twenty ninety six, which beat their old record by
more than thirty seconds. It's done. How amazing this freshman is.
Jane Hedergrin just b by U fans. You love trumpeting
about all the great things going on with football and
men's basketball and the soccer team and the women's volleyball team.
But now you have something else you can lord over
your Utah fans and others by saying you've got the
best women's cross country freshmen maybe in the history of
the sport. Right now.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, this freshman's phenomenal gata Rade high school Gatory play
of the Year.
Speaker 1: She was at the SP's I'm pretty sure it's her award.
Speaker 3: Yeah, By the way, I'm jealous because that award that
geta Rid of War looks fire when you look at
how it is, that nice glass award. That's just one
of many that she already has received and will receive.
She is dominant. Yeah, and when you look at BYU
as a whole, you're right. You got Jane, you got
aj I mean, there's so many talented freshman Baron Bachmeyer,
you're right.
Speaker 1: And I love this.
Speaker 3: And I don't know if you saw this, but on
x Cam who works at BAM BAMS likes to give
back to the BYU athletes and he likes to actually
do programs that might not be as big.
Speaker 1: So I saw him giving back to the gymnastics team.
Speaker 3: So just want to plug and show some love to
the other sports at BYU because I know that football
drives the ship.
Speaker 1: Basketball is there too, but.
Speaker 3: BYU is in the Big twelve because of how much
they're able to compete in these other sports, like cross
country has already brought a Big twof title and has
multiple national championships, and it's none against fuller basketball.
Speaker 1: They will have their time. They will get there. I
know that they will.
Speaker 3: But you have to give credit where credits due these
Olympic sports have come in and they've made an impact.
Speaker 1: So love that you give a plug there.
Speaker 2: Appreciate that, no problem. Just want to make sure everybody
knows what's going on in other sports.
Speaker 1: Let's get to it now. Let's get to the football talk.
Speaker 3: Bear Bachmeyer bys want to buy as to remind everybody
eight to no double ed. Is this how you imagined
it to go eight to no start for Byu, I
mean Bear, if you compare him to Jake, right around
the same numbers.
Speaker 1: But Jake lost last night.
Speaker 3: Actually the two lane game did not play well, and
Bear Bachmeyer.
Speaker 1: Has been playing phenomenal. Some people think it's an upgrade.
Speaker 2: Well, it's easy to say it is now because Bayu's undefeated.
I think Jake had a tendency to be a little
more risky with his throws on occasion and made some
pretty big turnovers in his career, but also had some
pretty amazing finishes where he led BWA you to victory
in the last few seconds. And Bear's done that as well.
You think about the Colorado game, the Arizona game, Utah
game last week against Iowa State. He can make plays
at the end of the game, and what I find
most amazing is that the coaching staff and enter Aaron Roderick,
the offensive coordinator, they have the confidence to say Bear's
gonna make the decision, He's gonna make the right decision
down the stretch. And so he's been spectacular as a freshman.
You know, I think people can talk a lot about
where b Why you might be if Jake Retzlop had stayed,
because they would have been ranked a lot higher to
start the season. So we're looking at a number ten
ranking right now with Jake, and if they were you know, eight, No,
they might be in the top five or six. Who knows,
But that's you know, that's just speculation. And when you're
talking about rankings, it really doesn't matter what the AP
ranking is. It matters what you finish in, uh, you know,
the college football playoff rankings because that's where they're going
to see you. And right now, b Why he's in
a really good position to earn one of those spot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right now, b Yu is in a really good position.
They're picked, I think projected, go to the title game,
lose against Texas Tech. I'll ask you, and maybe you
might not answer it directly, but I'm gonna ask anyway,
do you have BYU projected right now to go to
the Big twelve title game? Can this team be eleven
to one or undefeated going into Arlington December sixth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see how this all
plays out because if they were too and you know,
we can speculate through all of this because we don't
have to take one game at a time. If BYU
is eleven and one going into the Big twelve Championship
game and loses and is eleven and two, I think
I don't know. I don't know what the committee will
say with eleven and two team out of the out
of the Big Twelve, I don't know what that will do.
So BYU has its own destiny controlled if it can
just continue to keep winning. And if they're a one
lost team after the Big twelve Championship game, definitely they're in.
If there are two lost team, I think it's kind
of tricky because then you've got the SEC crowing about
some of their two and three lost teams that they
should be in. And you know it's important also if
you make the tournament, what you're seated to see, if
maybe you can host a game you imagine hosting a
game in December at Levelle Edwards Stadium for a playoff game,
that would be fantastic, But you know, one week at
a time for the Cougars and coming up is Texas
Tech on the road, which will definitely not be a
very easy game to come out with a win.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would have to agree with you.
Speaker 3: I'm with you if BYU goes into the title game
with one loss or even is undefeated, if they get there,
you have to think back to SMU last year only
loss was the BYU that was a non conference very early.
Their second loss came in the title game to Clemson.
They still end up making the College Football Playoff because
the committee's not going to punish you, per their saying,
if you losing the conference championship. But if BYU were
to lose a game, it would own it can own
beat a Texas Tech. In my opinion, I think Cincinnati
TCU UCF you were to win the other games, I
don't think that's gonna cut it. I think you have
to lose to the team that they project and the
only reason, and this is why it's so interesting. SMU
got in Darnell, but the loss to BYU actually helped
them because of how good BYU was. I felt like
that played a factor because oh By was the better
team in their record. So it really depends. But let's
talk about the Big Twelve as a whole. Who are
the threats now? Because announced earlier this morning, I don't
know if you saw, Kenny Dillaham said on the podcast,
I think it was Arizona Sports. Sam Levin's out for
the rest of the year. I would have to think
now that you know, the Sun Devils are not going
to be picked to go to the Big Twelve title
because Sam Levin's not gonna play for the rest.
Speaker 1: Of the ruineer of the season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that will impact some things. And you know you're
talking also with Cincinnati playing really well right now and Houston.
You know, they could go on runs at the end
of the season and put themselves in a position to
be in the Big Twelve championship game and to make
the College Football playoffs as well. You know, you certainly
can't count out in Texas Tech, even though they're having
their quarterback issues with injuries as well. You know, Cincinnati's
got a pretty big game this weekend at Utah that
could put derail some of their hopes in getting to
the Big Twelve championship game. It's it's a conference that
and I've been saying this for a while, is you know, B,
why you playing and in pending schedule B while you're
playing in the Mountain West Conference, there were certain games
they were expected to win and win by double digits
or by three or four touchdowns, and if they didn't,
it was it was almost disappointing to consider it almost
almost a loss when it comes to national prominence and
what the the voters were thinking and what the committees
were thinking about it. When you win a game in
the Big Twelve, I don't care if it's by two
or by twenty, it's a good win. And I think that,
you know, you give yourself a and ulcer trying to
think about, well, you know, Colinie should have run the
score up a little more, or B, why you should
have won by more in this game. You get a
victory and you just keep going on. And I think
that's proven over the course of this year that b
YU has the ability to find ways to win. And
that's really important because when you're in close games, that's
got to happen. It's nice when you blow out everybody,
and if you're Utah fan, you're thinking, why can we
blow out all these other teams? But we've lost two
close games. I think b WHYU benefits from winning these
close games as they continue their schedule, because they're gonna
play more close games and they have familiarity with coming
up with the big plays to win. And certainly, like
I said, it would be nice if they could win
by three or four touchdowns in games, but that's not
happening right now. But they are benefiting from winning close
ones and that'll that'll be something that keep an eye
on as they go through the last four games of
this this schedule.
Speaker 3: That one in I always state, if you take away
that score, that the pick six about Follosassatsuala, you know it.
They be a closer ball game than people might think. So,
but that's bay they big. They play complimentary football on
all levels, offense, defense, and special teams. By the way,
just to hit on your point about Cincinnati, Utah now
favorite ten and a half, I think that's because I
think I don't know if Cincinnati is running back's not
gonna play, So the Bearcats have a tough task. Darnelle
I guess I'll ask you this, and you're the journalist.
But for the BYU fan, are you are you a
Bearcat fan this weekend to officially knock Utah out of
the title game, because I don't think three losses is
gonna get you in in my personal opinion, or are
you rooting for the Use to derail Cincinnati so you
can have a better chance of staying undefeated at the top.
Speaker 2: Well, in a general sense, you always want a team
that you've beaten to continue to win games so that
win looks good, right, Yeah, But if you're a BYU fan,
you always love to see misery up up north. So
I think it's difficult for BYU fans to cheer and
to push for for some BAYU fans to push for
Utah to be successful the rest of the season, but
that that definitely does improve BYU's look and their rankings
and and their how the committee sees them when teams
at b YU has beat continued to play well. So
I guess if you want BYU to to continue to
move up the rankings, then you want you Tait to win.
And if you if you want more misery up north
than you want since Nanni to go into salt Wake
and get a victory.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not wrong. It comes down to that. Let's
talk about Aaron Roderick.
Speaker 3: I feel like he and we had Guy Holliday on
the show earlier this week and he said that, of course,
the offensive coordinate position is going to be the most unthankful.
Speaker 1: He said, look at the history at b YU.
Speaker 3: Look at all the play callers, look at all the
signal callers, everybody that's call plays at BA.
Speaker 1: You look at the history of it. You have some legends,
and you do.
Speaker 3: When I thought about that, and when I looked and
I went looked up who it was.
Speaker 1: But a rid to me is up there as well.
Speaker 3: And I feel like he doesn't get the credit to
have beer Bachmeyer not just a no but playing like
he's going to be the freshman, the national freshman of
the year, the quarterback player of the year, and the
freshman of the year in the Big Twelve.
Speaker 1: I feel like he.
Speaker 3: Still gets discredited at times, and I feel like that's
just not right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And a couple of things to recognize that we're
talking about offensive coordinators, and one of those is it's
a chess match between the offensive coordinator and the other
team's defensive coordinator, and there's some good ones, and sometimes
the other guy wins. You know, they call a play
that they blitz right into the hole of a play
that would work, or you know, you have some matchup
issues where they've got one guy you can't quite control
and it messes you up. So I think you got
to give credit at times to the other guys because
they work hard, they practice, are they spend late nights
trying to figure out what to do, and sometimes they
win on those one on one situations. But and that's
that's one thing. The second thing is I think that
what we're seeing from this you coaching staff on both
sides of the ball is really good adjustments. They continue
to tell us that teams are playing are showing things
they didn't ever seen before. And whatever adjustments to be
why you made against Iowa State basically led to a
twenty four to three second half. That's pretty impressive to
be able to do that and to take control of
the football game. So I think you've got to give
Aaron Roderick, as they say, his flowers for developing Bear
Blachmeyer but also finding ways to make adjustments to find
the right place when aj or when LJ. Martin went
out and at the end of the first quarter, you
would think that would have spelled pretty much doomed for
the offense because now they don't really have the run threat,
and that's going to allow Iowa State to tee off
on Bear and to force him to throw and b
what you still came up with great plays and threw
for more than three hundred yards with out the threat
of l J. Martin. Their whole game plan is built
on l J. Martin establishing things and then playing off
of that. So the adjustments that Aaron Rodrick and his
offensive coaches made in the second half against Iowa State
were tremendous and so that you have to give credit
that way. So, yeah, it's a thankless job sometimes, and
you know you're counting on as an offensive corner, you're
counting on eleven guys, eleven teenagers, eleven, you know, barely
twenties to make good decisions and to fulfill whatever tasks
you've given them. And sometimes that works better than others others.
But I think Aaron Roderick's proven over the course of
his career very good at developing quarterbacks and very good
at finding plays to make things work, and that's an
example what we've seen this year. I think.
Speaker 3: I mean, he took Jake Gretz laugh who arguably you
could say I had no offers, and look what he
did with him. Eaton'slovis Jaron Hall, Zach Wilson. I mean,
look at that. Honestly, would honestly love to see what
he had done with you know, tayso healthfully to a degree.
But that's maybe the next life. You know, when we're
all there, we can discuss at a later point in Tommy,
you mentioned LJ. Can BYU get to the title game,
get a college football playoff Berth without LJ? Because there
was some slander on one on Brett always bringing a
hammer one of the videos he had put out that
BYU played better without LJ and Iowa State game, Oh,
they're fine.
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
Speaker 3: I think if LJ is not able to go against
Texas Tech, that's a problem because Texas Tech has only
allowed sixty four points in conference this season. They're a
really good defense.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Aaron Roderick on The Coordinating Corner Show this week was
talking about how teams they play against. Generally, what they
think is if we can slow down the running game
will force the freshman quarterback to throw the ball war
and he's gonna make mistakes. I would think that that
narrative would be losing a lot of steam for the
first eight games of the season because Bears proven that
he can get the job done. And so I'm wondering
in the next four games how defenses might adjust. Certainly
BYU's offenses is better when LJ is healthy and ready
to go. I think he will be ready to play
against Texas Tech, and so BYU will have their full
arsenal available that way. But I think defenses and defensive
coordinators are playing the percentages and saying, Okay, well, there's
a freshman quarterback, let's make him make plays. And if
they start watching game film, they start seeing he is
making plays every single game. He's making plays and forcing
the throw may not be the best idea. So I'm
interested to see how Texas Tech and Cincinnati and TCU,
and you see I defend by whether LJA Martin's there
or not.
Speaker 3: The good take love that point. What would a win
over the Red Raiders mean. Joe Klatt still has Texas
Tech as the to be b YU to be the
representing the Big twelve. Others do too. What would a
win next week a Lovebig do F this BAU program.
Speaker 2: I think it would put them in a really great
position because if you figure, BYU needs to go three
and one in their final four games to get to
the Big Twelve championship game. Definitely, the Texas Tech game
I think is the toughest one. Cincinnati's played really well.
TCU has a great passing game, and UCF has great athletes,
and BYU is going to be stressed to beat all
four of those teams. But a win in Lubbock would
I think, put them over the top and really give
them the confidence they need to finish off that schedule.
But again, three and one, as I said, puts them
in the position they want to be in. So a
loss in Lubbock isn't as devastating as one might think.
If by you can take care of business with the
other three games.
Speaker 3: Let's talk some hoop now, you know we have to
talk hoop on this show. Starting Monday, November three, two
days away, Double d YU basketball officially tips off of
again It's Villanova. Your thoughts on the overall matchup, little preview,
How do you see this game plan out for BYU.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm still doing some digging on Villanova to kind
of see. They've got a new coach this year, they
got a couple of guys that are out injured, they
were counting on that are transfers, got a good freshman,
So there's talent certainly for Villanova in this game BYU.
So far this season has been interesting. In terms of
the two exhibition games. Kevin Young said he didn't feel
like the game at Nebraska was real because there have
been some injuries and some things with this team. We're
gonna see Dawson Baker on Monday for the first time
this season. He's been nursing an injury that they want
to just make sure he's fully healthy. And so when
Rob Wright goes out of the game the point guard,
I think Dawson comes in and gives me you a
completely different look, which is really important. I think I've
been really impressed with Kadeem Boop the way he's played
coming off the bench, giving BYU energy. And then my
other question right now is where Richie Saunders is at.
He's not shot the ball well in the first two
preseason games. I don't know how concerned I am about that.
I'm just more concerned about watching how he becomes part
of the offense. When AJ is getting so many ISOs,
it's very much an NBA looks so far that we've
seen where they give Aj to ball and let him
go to work, and that's fine, but then everyone else
is kind of standing around watching him go and Richie,
as we know, as a man in motion, he needs
to be moving coming off screens. And that's not to
say that Kevin Young won't run plays for Richie. Just
those first two games, he's gotten some open looks from
three and not hit him. He's not really been going
to the basket that much, and so I'm just wondering
where Richie fits in with this when AJ is the
center of this offense. We'll see more of that as
the season progresses, And I think k Bakada has been
terrific so far. I liked what I saw from Canard
Davis the last game. He made some big plays down
the stretch. So this is still a working progress, and
you know, there are a lot of new guys and
a lot of guys feeling new positions. But and when
we were talking about this before we started up, and
maybe that's your next question. But what happens when BYU
loses a couple of games in the preseason. Then they
set this schedule up to really test themselves as well
as keeping their net ranking high. They're following the pattern
that Arizona showed last year. They A B why you
can higher in the Big twelve standings in Arizona had
a better record, but Arizona played a more difficult schedule
and got a higher seed in the NCAA tournament. That's
what B what you're shooting for. So a loss, two
or three losses in the preseason, that's not catastrophic. They
want to win those games, but they're more concerned with
how that affects their net ranking at the end of
the season. They won a two or three seed, not
a five or six seed, And so as BYU fans
goes this preseason, they might see, B, what you dropped
out of the top ten if they lose a couple
of games to you know, if they lose to Yukon
or Wisconsin or Clemson or whoever. But it's just part
of the plan to put them in a great position
at the end of the season. We know that the
Cruvers closed really well, last year, in the first year
under Kevin Young, they were on a real run when
they got into the NCAA tournament and continued that. So
what they're hoping to do is repeat that, but put
themselves in a little higher seed and give themselves a
little bit of shot at moving on in the tournament.
That's that's kind of a long answer to your question,
but that's what's flowing through my mind is this season
gets ready to start.
Speaker 3: No, you said a lot of good things, and just
to tell the fans when we were preparing and prepping
you for this interview, that was one of the questions
I said, Hey, I'm going to ask about that if
b why you loses to Villanova or early in the season,
is it going to be a knee jerk reaction from
fans because remember last year when they lost to you know,
to Providence on the road. People up, Yep, he's not
a Yegor's not a lottery pick. Nope, people just jumped
immediately to conclusions. I'm like, you guys are wrong. I'm
sitting next to out at games. They're telling me that
he's a lottery pick, Like, what are you talking about? Like,
and I'm not trying to be rude. I don't care
what the national these other people guys and analyzing.
Speaker 1: And fans are saying.
Speaker 3: If I'm sitting next to an NBA scout who's telling
me he's a lottery pick, I'm probably gonna trust that
guy more often who's evalu waiting than other people, unless
he's just telling me false information, which I don't feel
like they would have done because they've been got the
same information when you sit next to him, and you
gotta appreciate when you sitting next to scouts, then that's
the information. But that's why I bring it up because
if they they could lose the Villanova like it's the
first game of the year, figure things out. It's not
football right where you can catch a team early. If
you don't with the way they're not shooting the three ball, well,
if it doesn't fall, they could lose this game. And
I don't want fans to be like, look, Kevin Young
got this extension and just BYU fans gets so knee
jerk reaction to one bad you know, piece of evidence.
And I said, look, what did they do? Like you
alluded to last year? Would you rather then lose to
Villanova early? And then lose the Iowa State at home
February twenty six next year, or woud you rather lose
the game and then they'll roll off nine or ten
in row beating Houston, beating a Baylor, beating an Arizona,
beating a Texas Tech of the crib beat in the
Iowa State. I think you'll take the latter rather than
the forward double D Before I let you go, where
are you gonna be at for high school football tonight?
And what's the best way we and our listeners can
support you what you do and how you do it?
Speaker 2: Well. I'm going to be at the computer Orum. Football
game starts at four o'clock, so it's nice and bright
for me to get some good photos since I'm now
shooting photos as well. That game's interesting because in six
of the past seven seasons those teams have played twice,
once in the regular season and once in the playoffs.
They always seem to be taking each other on Orange
a little higher seed this year. But I expect a
pretty good game and you'll be able to find all
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Speaker 1: Brother. We'll catch up with you next week. We'll be
all you heads out the Lubbock.
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