Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to kf
Speaker 1: I Am six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on
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Speaker 2: They gave out awards. I don't know why we were
Speaker 2: talking about this. Best the iHeart Radio Podcast Awards, Yeah,
Speaker 2: iHeart Podcast. Sorry, awards we're handed out last night down
Speaker 2: at south By Southwest. You'd heard ads for it. Podcast
Speaker 2: of the Year goes to Last Culturistas with Matt Rodgers
Speaker 2: and Bowen Yang. Best wellness and fitness podcast, Huboran Lab.
Speaker 2: Best history podcast is called Your Wrong About the The
Speaker 2: Best ad read Award Interesting goes to Conan O'Brien for
Speaker 2: Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 2: Best political podcast goes to Making Kelly. Best green podcast
Speaker 2: goes to Ted Klein.
Speaker 3: What would you call our podcast? Best? It wouldn't fit
Speaker 3: in any around podcast?
Speaker 2: Best Big Night for the Kelsey family. They won Jason
Speaker 2: and Travis one for best Sports podcast, and Best Emerging
Speaker 2: Podcast went to Kylie Kelsey.
Speaker 1: You know what Phil Schumann, filling in for John Coblt
Speaker 1: called our twelve o'clock hour on Friday.
Speaker 2: You were not a gigantic twelve o'clock hour.
Speaker 1: He called it miscellaneous, So maybe that's miscellaneous.
Speaker 3: What else is going on?
Speaker 2: Miscellaneous?
Speaker 4: Time four?
Speaker 2: What's happenings?
Speaker 3: Got your miscellaneous right here?
Speaker 2: First, back to back storms arrives here in southern California.
Speaker 2: The rain has been off and on throughout the day
Speaker 2: most of southern California, but it is going to increase
Speaker 2: by later Tomorrow night is when we're going to see
Speaker 2: a much more powerful storm. They said it's brewing in
Speaker 2: the Gulf of Alaska and should bring rain totals along
Speaker 2: the coast and valleys between one and two inches by
Speaker 2: Thursday night, maybe two to four inches in the mountains
Speaker 2: and the foothills. And and it's rain. It's good, but
Speaker 2: let's not go crazy. It's just rain.
Speaker 3: Let's not go crazy.
Speaker 1: You know who is a fan of the show who
Speaker 1: we are now friends with on social media, Casey Montoya
Speaker 1: from KTLA.
Speaker 5: Really yes, hell and okay easy just being nice and
Speaker 5: saying hello, Okay, that's embarrassing.
Speaker 2: Is that a creepy way?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 2: How should I say it?
Speaker 3: Just don't be weird?
Speaker 2: Hello?
Speaker 3: Anyway.
Speaker 1: I told her that we'd love to have her on
Speaker 1: when we have weather issues, which we have, so maybe
Speaker 1: I'll reach out if you're not weird, and we'll get
Speaker 1: her on to talk about the storm.
Speaker 2: This is a strange story. Remains that were found late
Speaker 2: last year in the San Bernardino Mountains have now officially
Speaker 2: been identified as Carlos Baltasar, a Forest Service firefighter who
Speaker 2: went missing during the El Dorado Fire five years ago. Wow.
Speaker 2: A hunter discovered a human skull in October of last
Speaker 2: year in the Smarts Ranch Road area north of Cactus
Speaker 2: Flat in your Highway eighteen. According to the family, the
Speaker 2: Hotshots crew member went missing after a squad boss died
Speaker 2: while fighting the Eldorado Fire. He went to report to
Speaker 2: the barracks to prepare for funeral service and was not
Speaker 2: seen after he was talking to his co workers and
Speaker 2: later they said they found his vehicle crashed along Highway eighteen.
Speaker 3: Illegal dumping is on the rise, No Hello.
Speaker 1: Miscellaneous reports of illegal dumping apparently soared in the first
Speaker 1: two months of this year compared to last year. Tens
Speaker 1: of thousands of reports of trash and furniture and other
Speaker 1: debris that is just thrown out on the streets. It's
Speaker 1: up thirty six percent according to the data, as opposed
Speaker 1: to this time last year. It's the highest number going
Speaker 1: back to twenty eighteen. This could be you know, trash
Speaker 1: bags or construction debris, or couches, or hazardous waste or
Speaker 1: what have you. People are just dumping this stuff because
Speaker 1: they have no respect for the city.
Speaker 3: I would assume by the way it happens.
Speaker 2: Van Eyes wins the toilet Award because they have the
Speaker 2: most illegal dumping reports of eight hundred and forty five
Speaker 2: so far this year. Wow, eight forty five. This is
Speaker 2: one of those things that as a city council member,
Speaker 2: a county county Board of supervisors candidate something, This.
Speaker 3: Is one of those things I add on it.
Speaker 2: I want to be able to say, listen, even just
Speaker 2: driving over some of your common daily freeway overpasses, there's
Speaker 2: so much trash that has accumulated just in the little
Speaker 2: curb area. Is there not somebody that could go through
Speaker 2: You work them from ten o'clock in the at night
Speaker 2: until four o'clock in the morning, and just pick six
Speaker 2: hours of whatever stretch of road you're gonna do and
Speaker 2: just clean that one up.
Speaker 1: Politically, what a great cause it's changed you can see. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's see, we've got wreckage of a three hundred foot
Speaker 1: ship that's been missing for one hundred and thirty two years.
Speaker 1: That's been found in Lake Superior the Western Reserve, a
Speaker 1: three hundred foot steel steamer, broke in two when it
Speaker 1: wrecked back in eighteen ninety two just about sixty miles
Speaker 1: northwest of Whitefish Point in Lake Superior. Every shipwreck has
Speaker 1: its own story, according to the Great Lake Shipwreck Historical
Speaker 1: Society director Bruce Lynn. Every shipwreck has its own story,
Speaker 1: he says, but some are just that much more tragic.
Speaker 2: Listen this now, I'm thinking of something else.
Speaker 1: At the time of this route, Captain Peter Minch, the
Speaker 1: ship's owner your dog's namesake, brought his family along on
Speaker 1: a cruise through Lake Huron with plans to go to
Speaker 1: Two Harbors, Minnesota. The ship was under the command of
Speaker 1: Captain Albert Meyer for this voyage. The weather was cooperative
Speaker 1: until they reached Whitefish Bay. Then the crew dropped anchor
Speaker 1: to wait out poor weather conditions. As they weighed anchor
Speaker 1: and steamed into Lake Superior, a gale brewed up.
Speaker 3: It broke up, and it sunk.
Speaker 1: The Minch family and the ship's crew boarded and launched
Speaker 1: two lifeboats, but almost immediately one of the lifeboats overturned.
Speaker 3: Dead dead people.
Speaker 1: The remaining lifeboat with the Minch family and surviving crew.
Speaker 2: Sorry, dead people. I didn't know who were dead.
Speaker 3: I didn't know who they were.
Speaker 5: I didn't there people.
Speaker 2: This is a no, not this song. This song the
Speaker 2: wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald, which at the time was
Speaker 2: the largest ship ever sailing the Lake Superior.
Speaker 1: That's what the family died toot dead people. The only
Speaker 1: survivor was the wheelsman Harry Stewart of Algonic Michigan.
Speaker 3: Sorry, boy, but.
Speaker 2: Do you remember this at all? Gordon Lightfootzgerald.
Speaker 3: Of course I knew you.
Speaker 1: Don't know the story about this, the Jim Harbaugh story. No,
Speaker 1: Holy hell, So this just happened last season. Obviously, it's
Speaker 1: Jim Harbo's first season. He recited this entire song, oh
Speaker 1: really to the Chargers in a team meeting. It's like
Speaker 1: a twenty minute song. And he told the team, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and this was a boat, a ship that was wrecked
Speaker 1: in Michiganliod Superior. He told the team he didn't want
Speaker 1: to be like in like eighteen members of the crew died,
Speaker 1: nine dead, dead dead people. He told the team, I
Speaker 1: don't want you to be like the guys who fought
Speaker 1: for their lives that day and fought in the wars
Speaker 1: and all the things. I want you to be the
Speaker 1: storm that took the ship out.
Speaker 3: How's that for a motivational Tuesday?
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh, by the way, was rated as the number
Speaker 1: one coach in the NFL when it comes to wasting
Speaker 1: the most time.
Speaker 3: With his words.
Speaker 2: Oh that's too bad.
Speaker 3: No, I mean they love it.
Speaker 1: It's in a good way, but for what, Like it's
Speaker 1: just telling tales. But yeah, he recited this whole thing
Speaker 1: twenty minute long in deadpant like he was reading the
Speaker 1: phone book.
Speaker 2: World of Wall Street is a little topsy turvy these days.
Speaker 2: We're gonna be checking in with Trader Merlin when we
Speaker 2: come back about what's going on.
Speaker 4: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Speaker 4: A six forty.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: We have had our eyes all day, well all week
Speaker 1: on Wall Street. Manic day has sent the US stock
Speaker 1: market carrening following the latest escalation in the trade war.
Speaker 1: We wanted to get an update from somebody who follows
Speaker 1: the markets on well. Investors are concerned, but is this
Speaker 1: just a blip or are these blips the way the
Speaker 1: President says they are, at least the way he said
Speaker 1: they were yesterday.
Speaker 2: You could find Trader Merlin on YouTube at Trader Merlin,
Speaker 2: a regular show that he produces looking at the Things
Speaker 2: on the Markets and full disclosure. Merlin and I went
Speaker 2: to high school together. Oh my goodness, seven and sixteen
Speaker 2: years ago. Merlin, what's going on?
Speaker 6: Oh, I'm living the dream. Happy to be on the
Speaker 6: Miscellaneous Hour with you guys.
Speaker 1: So Merlin, should we be panicking and tell us why?
Speaker 3: The answer is no.
Speaker 6: What is preface that they're I don't think you need
Speaker 6: a panic, Let's be honest. I mean, these markets are
Speaker 6: just in a normal correction. If we look back at
Speaker 6: twenty twenty two, we were up seventy percent, seventy six percent.
Speaker 6: So all these people freaking out that we're having an
Speaker 6: eight percent draw down in the S and piece, it's normal.
Speaker 6: It's like telling me that I'm driving to work and
Speaker 6: I normally have fifteen stop lights and I've hit eight
Speaker 6: red lights. Big deal, It's normal at half of them.
Speaker 6: You know, It's just part of the game. So no,
Speaker 6: I don't think you need to panic. I think you
Speaker 6: need to be more defensive because I do believe that
Speaker 6: these tariffs that are the tariff talk, the art of
Speaker 6: the deal, if you will, with these tariffs is probably
Speaker 6: going to lead the more downside movement in the intermediate term,
Speaker 6: probably for the next few few months. So yes, protect
Speaker 6: your portfolio, but no reason.
Speaker 2: To panic talk about the importance of or the the
Speaker 2: effect that volatility has. Just the uncertainty of what the
Speaker 2: end of this trade war is going to look like
Speaker 2: and what that means for the markets on a day
Speaker 2: to day basis.
Speaker 6: Just bottom line is it's much more uncertainty. As you
Speaker 6: pointed out. You know, if you look at the previous
Speaker 6: administration with pretty clear where things were headed, there's no
Speaker 6: knee jerk reactions. And if you look at what happened
Speaker 6: with Trump in his previous term, you know there was
Speaker 6: a lot of shock and awe. And I think that
Speaker 6: comes from a lot of reality TV, which is you
Speaker 6: go to the end of an episode and you see
Speaker 6: something so atrocious and so jaw dropping that nobody wants
Speaker 6: to leave the channel and they come back to the
Speaker 6: next after the commercial break. So I think Trump's doing
Speaker 6: the same thing. It will be a continued amount of
Speaker 6: very volatile marketplaces where for the average investor, someone who's
Speaker 6: looking at their four to one K on a daily basis,
Speaker 6: This is gonna drive you nuts. You're gonna go bald, pulling.
Speaker 2: Your hair out.
Speaker 6: If you're an active trader. These are the glory days.
Speaker 6: I mean, these are the days that you dream about.
Speaker 6: Is someone shorter term because you have a five percent
Speaker 6: down day, a three percent up, you know, it's been
Speaker 6: very wild and this, to me, will be the new
Speaker 6: norm for a while. So either you learn how to
Speaker 6: accommodate that type of volatility or you just don't look
Speaker 6: at your portfolo for a while.
Speaker 1: I was at Starbucks the other day and waiting for
Speaker 1: my order to be picked up, and there was a
Speaker 1: few guys and they were all glued to their cell
Speaker 1: phones and they were looking at the market, the meters
Speaker 1: or what have you, and the graphs and everything. And
Speaker 1: is this the time like you mentioned or are you
Speaker 1: intimated where people who are a work in this this
Speaker 1: is fun for them, or this is times when you
Speaker 1: can play around with things or what.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, you look at the financial markets and
Speaker 6: they're incredibly broad. You have going all the way from
Speaker 6: the long term investors who are going to buy something
Speaker 6: and hold it for the next decade or two. And
Speaker 6: then you have the short term day traders who are
Speaker 6: literally in and out within five to ten minutes. So
Speaker 6: there's this broad spectrum of different people in the marketplaces
Speaker 6: with different goals and objectives. I'm more of a shorter
Speaker 6: term I would say, a swing trader, which is days
Speaker 6: that last a couple of days to a couple of weeks.
Speaker 6: And right now, it's a very attractive style because the
Speaker 6: uncertainty is just it's so prominent that latching on to
Speaker 6: the beliefs that the markets are going to go in
Speaker 6: one direction for six months or a year, that's out
Speaker 6: the window. I mean, the volatility is here to say,
Speaker 6: So I think you kind of tailor your strategy and
Speaker 6: then ending on what you would like to buy into
Speaker 6: or invest in. You know, it all has to be
Speaker 6: custom tailored to what you choose to do, because I'm
Speaker 6: sure Shannon, you have different objectives, and Gary probably has
Speaker 6: different objectives besides just making money in the market. Right
Speaker 6: Maybe it's retirement, Maybe it's investing in Starbucks which is
Speaker 6: down fifteen percent as a good deal or something like that.
Speaker 6: So I think every individual listening right now has different
Speaker 6: goals objectives, for their capital.
Speaker 2: Merlin, great stuff, man, I appreciate you getting back to us.
Speaker 6: Yeah, anytime.
Speaker 2: Hey, I looking good. Tell me about the daily show
Speaker 2: that you do on YouTube.
Speaker 6: I do a daily show from two to three pm
Speaker 6: Pacific time, Monday through Friday, Trader Merlin, and it's just
Speaker 6: kind of open ended talk about all things markets, from stocks, equities, bonds,
Speaker 6: and of course cryptocurrencies, which have been just absolutely crazy now.
Speaker 6: So yeah, there's always something going on in the financial markets.
Speaker 6: They never sleep.
Speaker 1: Awesome, Well, you're never going to sleep now that we've
Speaker 1: got you in our clutches, Marlin, because this bring it on,
Speaker 1: bring it up.
Speaker 6: We'll call it the intolerable risk of collisions for our.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: You've been listening, so yeah, the volatility is here to stay.
Speaker 1: So we'll stay on top of this for you, keep
Speaker 1: our eyes on the market, as will Merlin as well.
Speaker 2: Thanks man, appreciate it, my pleasure. Thank you again, you
Speaker 2: bet Merlin Rothfield. Make sure you check him out Trader
Speaker 2: Merlin on YouTube and also other places on social media,
Speaker 2: and you can email him at trailer Trader Merlin Trader
Speaker 2: Merlin at gmail dot com.
Speaker 1: Coming up next, it is true crime Tuesday. A cold
Speaker 1: case to tell you about who killed Cheryl and Andy.
Speaker 1: Cheryl raped her throat slit in nineteen ninety Andy tied
Speaker 1: to a tree, nearly decapitated.
Speaker 3: Sounds quite personal. Cold case.
Speaker 1: It has haunted these families, as you can imagine, for decades.
Speaker 1: We'll tell you what we know when we come back
Speaker 1: to Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 4: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Speaker 4: AM six forty.
Speaker 2: President Trump has been helping lobby members of his party
Speaker 2: to pass this measure. Senate action would still be needed
Speaker 2: later this week to keep the government open.
Speaker 4: Jd.
Speaker 2: Vance has been on Capitol Hill. He's been telling House
Speaker 2: Republicans that they will be the ones who take the
Speaker 2: blame for a government shutdown in pop culture if they
Speaker 2: don't pass this legislation. Stocks have retreated mostly again today.
Speaker 2: The NASDAK did turn back into positive territory for the
Speaker 2: most part in the last last little while, but the
Speaker 2: Dow is still down about two hundred points s and
Speaker 2: P five hundred is just barely dow. It's mostly flat.
Speaker 2: It's only down about seven as of right now. And
Speaker 2: that story that we told you about out of Pakistan
Speaker 2: armed militants have taken four hundred and fifty people hostage
Speaker 2: and wounded the driver of a train during what is
Speaker 2: being referred to as a terrorist attack in the southwestern
Speaker 2: province of Bolakistan. The separatist Bollack Liberation Army has threatened
Speaker 2: to execute all of the four hundred and fifty hostages
Speaker 2: it has if the Pakistani authorities attempt to intervene. It
Speaker 2: hasn't a exactly stated what they are looking for. But again,
Speaker 2: the hijacking, I guess you would say of a passenger
Speaker 2: train in southwest Pakistan.
Speaker 1: Tuesday we dive into current and sometimes cold cases for
Speaker 1: True Crime Tuesday and today the.
Speaker 2: Story is true, sounds true?
Speaker 6: No, it sounds made up.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Perry and Shannon present True Crime.
Speaker 1: Today we bring you the story of Cheryl Henry and
Speaker 1: Andy Atkinson, and it.
Speaker 3: Is not a good story.
Speaker 1: It comes to us from nineteen ninety A beautiful summer night.
Speaker 2: Cheryl and Andy Young. She was twenty two, he was
Speaker 2: twenty one. They meet up at Buy You Mama's nightclub.
Speaker 1: If you want to picture them, picture the quintessential like
Speaker 1: eighties permed, blonde.
Speaker 2: Bubbly girl.
Speaker 1: The guy looked like out of Fast Times. A Ridgemont
Speaker 1: high blonde guy, Zach Morris type hair style, green eyes,
Speaker 1: big smile.
Speaker 3: That's what these two.
Speaker 2: These two looked like. So they meet up at this
Speaker 2: night club. That was really the last time that anybody
Speaker 2: saw them alive, because they drive to an area of
Speaker 2: known as Lover's Lane. Everybody's got one of them. This
Speaker 2: is off of Enclave Parkway near Eldridge Parkway in West Houston.
Speaker 2: The problem is there were somebody there that eventually was
Speaker 2: going to kill them.
Speaker 1: Twenty two year old Ryl did not come home that night,
Speaker 1: and the next morning her family realizes she did not
Speaker 1: come home that night, so they call Houston Police. Security
Speaker 1: guard who is out in the area of Lover's Lane
Speaker 1: was actually the person who came across what appeared to
Speaker 1: be the crime scene.
Speaker 3: It was that security guard.
Speaker 1: He found Andy's car, the white car there and it
Speaker 1: had Cheryl's purse and her shoes inside. When the security
Speaker 1: guard found the car, Cheryl's mom, Barbara, rushed to the area.
Speaker 1: By the time mom got there, as you can imagine,
Speaker 1: there had been a police presence, there had been crime
Speaker 1: scene tape, there had been search dogs, and the search
Speaker 1: dogs found Cheryl's body When Mom was there.
Speaker 3: Officers had to hold Barbara back.
Speaker 1: They did not want Barbara to see the horrific scene
Speaker 1: that the dogs had come across. That they did not
Speaker 1: want the mom to see the horrific way her daughter
Speaker 1: was killed.
Speaker 2: Now, this quote from Mom, this was just a few
Speaker 2: years ago. Oh, actually, even though the murders took place
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety, Mom said, I know if they had
Speaker 2: let me go to Cheryl, to her body, she said,
Speaker 2: I would have breathed into her and she would be alive.
Speaker 2: And that I don't think I've ever seen a mother's
Speaker 2: love described in a more poignant way than the belief that,
Speaker 2: regardless of what had happened to her daughter, she would
Speaker 2: be able to just through the sheer power of will,
Speaker 2: been able to breathe life back into her daughter.
Speaker 3: Also, just.
Speaker 1: The shock and the disbelief and your mind not being
Speaker 1: able to grasp the fact that your child has been murdered,
Speaker 1: to the point of if I could have gotten there,
Speaker 1: that wouldn't have been the case.
Speaker 2: That was Cheryl's body. Andy's body was found nearby. He
Speaker 2: had been tied to a tree, nearly decapitated, and detectives
Speaker 2: told Andy's father that in fact, Cheryl was the one
Speaker 2: who was killed first. His dad is also a nightmare.
Speaker 1: Yeah, his dad's name is Garland. And he said this
Speaker 1: means my son was tied to a tree, listen to
Speaker 1: Cheryl's scream, listen to her being murdered, knowing that he
Speaker 1: couldn't do anything about it, and that they were going
Speaker 1: to do the same to him.
Speaker 5: So that's just hard to accept. Still, of course, still
Speaker 5: it's kind of a.
Speaker 2: Tangent to this, or an interesting aspect to the scene
Speaker 2: itself was that whoever it was that killed Cheryl and
Speaker 2: Andy used Andy's golf balls and golf club out of
Speaker 2: his car to point the way to Cheryl's body, who
Speaker 2: was found hidden under some wooden boards. There was a
Speaker 2: twenty dollars bill lying next nearby, and one of the
Speaker 2: detectives said it was very odd and even in twenty seventeen,
Speaker 2: even twenty seven years after the murders, this detective said,
Speaker 2: I've gotten sick to my stomach stomach thinking of what
Speaker 2: they endured. That was actually Cheryl's sister that said that
Speaker 2: about the what it was that went on.
Speaker 1: When you think about the violence and the crime scene,
Speaker 1: the fact that she was personally attacked and assaulted and
Speaker 1: that he was tied to a tree and made to
Speaker 1: listen to all this and the setup with the golf
Speaker 1: balls and the golf club pointing the way it seems
Speaker 1: like it was personal. Retired Detective Billy Belk spent two
Speaker 1: decades trying to track down the killer. He said that
Speaker 1: even after he retired, as you can imagine, the case
Speaker 1: stayed with him because he says, it's one of the
Speaker 1: few cases that I never cleared. It's like I left
Speaker 1: unfinished business when I retired.
Speaker 2: He still had his theories.
Speaker 1: He thinks, like maybe the evidence suggests that these two
Speaker 1: were targeted. Coming back, we'll talk about what else. Retired
Speaker 1: Detective Billy Belk thinks about the case and the fact
Speaker 1: that it's been reopened and where DNA could take us
Speaker 1: because DNA was found, and with all of the progress
Speaker 1: that has been made with DNA testing and familial testing,
Speaker 1: maybe it doesn't remain a cold case for much longer.
Speaker 4: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on Demand from KFI
Speaker 4: AM six forty.
Speaker 2: We were just watching during the break, President Trump has
Speaker 2: taken delivery of his new tesla. He stood there with
Speaker 2: Elon Musk. There were actually four or five different cars
Speaker 2: and at least one cyber truck sitting there in the
Speaker 2: driveway there at the White House, and he was taking
Speaker 2: questions from reporters, and he said, kind of ironic that
Speaker 2: I'm going to take one of these, but I don't
Speaker 2: even get to drive it. They don't let me drive.
Speaker 2: Like I love driving cars, but I haven't driven a
Speaker 2: car in a long time. He said that he was
Speaker 2: the last time you think he drove a car, I
Speaker 2: mean him, Well, he got in, he's a car.
Speaker 3: He doesn't drive.
Speaker 2: That's why.
Speaker 3: That's why I'm ever driven.
Speaker 2: He's eighty eighty seventy eight, seventy nine. With the last
Speaker 2: time Donald Trump drove a vehicle.
Speaker 1: By himself, I wouldn't be surprised if you never drive,
Speaker 1: if he never drove.
Speaker 2: Interesting, let's see here.
Speaker 1: Ukraine says it is ready to accept a proposal to
Speaker 1: enact a interim thirty day ceasefire in its war with Russia.
Speaker 1: This is a joint statement from the US and Ukraine.
Speaker 1: They met in Saudi Arabia today. National Security Advisor Mike
Speaker 1: Wallas says the US will now immediately lift the pause
Speaker 1: on military aid and intel sharing with Ukraine. So now
Speaker 1: you're just waiting on Russia's response, I assume.
Speaker 2: One time congresswoman and Senate candidate Katie Porter has said
Speaker 2: that she is going to be running for governor in
Speaker 2: California next year. Says that she is going to be
Speaker 2: a champion of our progressive values and will fight any
Speaker 2: effort by Trump to cut healthcare benefits or curtail the
Speaker 2: efforts to slow the climate crisis. She has said she
Speaker 2: would step aside if Kamala Harris decides to run for
Speaker 2: governor of the state of California.
Speaker 3: Well, that you're just pissing into the wind.
Speaker 1: At that point, we were going to say, right, you're
Speaker 1: urinating into the breeze.
Speaker 2: I don't think the wind was the wrong word to use.
Speaker 2: The wind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, But like we were talking about earlier, Kamala Harris,
Speaker 1: it seems like all of the bad odor surrounding whatever
Speaker 1: campaign she tried to run is dissipated, and now that
Speaker 1: all that remains is her name recognition, and she'll run
Speaker 1: away with it in California.
Speaker 2: Probably one of the things that Katie Porter is trying
Speaker 2: to do also is suggest that Washington, DC needs a
Speaker 2: new voice, even though she's been in Congress. She also
Speaker 2: has talked about being just I'm just a mom, just
Speaker 2: a mom, a teacher trying to go to the Senate,
Speaker 2: very similar to what Patty Murray did in Washington State
Speaker 2: two decades ago. I'm just a mom in sensible shoes
Speaker 2: going to the United States Senate like Sarah Palin. But yes,
Speaker 2: but then Patty Murray's been there for twenty plus years.
Speaker 2: So it's the.
Speaker 1: Patty Murray still more likable than Katie Porter, or maybe not,
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a matter of opinion. NTSB, by the way,
Speaker 1: giving an update today on that deadly mid air collision
Speaker 1: between the Army helicopter the Blackhawk and the American Airlines
Speaker 1: passenger jet, the NTSB chair Jennifer Hammady says there were
Speaker 1: over fifteen thousand close proximity events between helicopters and passenger
Speaker 1: jets in the past three years at Reagan International International
Speaker 1: fifteen thousand. So they're saying, hey, why don't we xnay
Speaker 1: on the whole helicopter a let's prohibit certain helicopter ops
Speaker 1: in the area over the river as the investigation continues.
Speaker 1: Sixty seven people killed there. She says she's not ready
Speaker 1: at this point to assess blame.
Speaker 2: We're in the middle of a true crime Tuesday. We're
Speaker 2: telling you the story about Cheryl Henry and Andy Atkinson.
Speaker 2: Summer nineteen ninety. This young couple out on a date.
Speaker 2: They meet up at a nightclub and then they head
Speaker 2: off to lover's Lane. Their bodies were found a short
Speaker 2: time later, both of them brutalized and just the gruesome
Speaker 2: scene that haunts detectives years later. Now Belch Billy Belk,
Speaker 2: was one of the Houston PD detectives that did this.
Speaker 2: They covered this case and traveled around the country trying
Speaker 2: to find the suspect. And there were DNA samples found
Speaker 2: at the crime scene, and he compared again this nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety He compared those DNA samples to those of known criminals,
Speaker 2: and he said he came up with about twenty five
Speaker 2: potential suspects DNA that had been compared with what they
Speaker 2: found at the crime scene, but that all of them
Speaker 2: had been ruled out.
Speaker 1: There was a report by FBI profilers at has surfaced
Speaker 1: KHOU out of Houston eleven News dug this up. Here
Speaker 1: are some of the theories from FBI profilers that took
Speaker 1: a look at the facts of this cold case. Number one,
Speaker 1: the suspect may have been known to Cheryl or Andy
Speaker 1: or both. Number two he was about the age of
Speaker 1: the victims. Three he had above average intelligence but was
Speaker 1: a low achiever. And four police may have interviewed him
Speaker 1: at one time. Now, I don't need to be an
Speaker 1: FBI profiler to tell you that those things, those four
Speaker 1: things are usually true with most the murders.
Speaker 2: I think you and I, who are not FBI profilers,
Speaker 2: could have written those four.
Speaker 3: Points as well, exactly my point.
Speaker 2: In two thousand and one, and somebody did send a
Speaker 2: letter to Houston Police Department promising information in that case
Speaker 2: for one hundred thousand dollars in exchange. And they don't
Speaker 2: know if it was written by the killer, someone close
Speaker 2: to the killer, if it was a hoax. They simply
Speaker 2: don't know because that never led anywhere. But there was
Speaker 2: one lead. There was one lead that came out about
Speaker 2: twenty five years after the actual murders.
Speaker 1: Yeah, an exotic dancer who was raped about two months
Speaker 1: before the murders provided the first real break in the case.
Speaker 1: But like you mentioned, it wasn't until years later. This
Speaker 1: woman says, back in nineteen ninety, she left her job
Speaker 1: at Gigi's nightclub and went to her boyfriend's house in
Speaker 1: northwest Houston. A man shows up, says he's looking for
Speaker 1: the boyfriend who owed him money, and then attacked her,
Speaker 1: put her hands behind her back, wrapped him in duct tape,
Speaker 1: covered her eyes and mouth, put a bag over her head.
Speaker 1: She said he kept pulling trigger, taunting her over and over.
Speaker 1: She described him as late twenties to mid thirties, about
Speaker 1: six feet tall, one hundred and eighty pounds, with black
Speaker 1: hair olive complexion. He had a black fish net stalking
Speaker 1: over his head. He wore black gloves, dark shirt, dark pants,
Speaker 1: possibly a uniform. She said he had a very forceful
Speaker 1: military type stance.
Speaker 2: Now back then again, this would have been nineteen ninety.
Speaker 2: DNA testing was pretty new, was very expensive, and it
Speaker 2: took investigators seventeen years before they would run the DNA
Speaker 2: that they found on the rape victim and actually get
Speaker 2: a match, a match to the DNA that was found
Speaker 2: at the scene of Sheryl and Andy's death from nineteen ninety.
Speaker 1: So they track her down to Galveston County seventeen years later,
Speaker 1: interview her again and learned another astonishing link.
Speaker 2: She once worked for Andy's dad. Now they know if
Speaker 2: again his name was Garland. They didn't know if the
Speaker 2: killer might have also worked for Garland Atkinson or if
Speaker 2: this was just a complete weird coincidence.
Speaker 1: She helped a famous sketch artist, to Lois Gilbson, create
Speaker 1: a sketch of her attacker, which was also aged to
Speaker 1: depict what he may look like in two thousand and eight. Now,
Speaker 1: despite the DNA match, despite the interview with the dancer,
Speaker 1: despite the sketches on all of it, the identity remains
Speaker 1: a mystery. He is not in the national DNA database.
Speaker 2: So I mean, we're thirty thirty five years later, no suspects,
Speaker 2: but we do have the DNA, and as we've seen
Speaker 2: multiple times and talked about many times on this segment,
Speaker 2: it is probably a matter of time before they can
Speaker 2: establish that sort of backwards family tree that they have
Speaker 2: used multiple times to actually find the culport in this case.
Speaker 1: In recent months, family member have bought full page ads
Speaker 1: and local newspapers calling for any new leads. It's only
Speaker 1: a matter of time, right. How many stories have we
Speaker 1: done where there's always a knock on the door someone
Speaker 1: thinks they may have gotten away with it or somebody
Speaker 1: knows that they never will get away with it.
Speaker 2: Interesting to put it. That's why we do our true
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