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Speaker 1: Thomas right here, glad to be, glad to see Joe
Speaker 1: treker Ory belongs and looking at the rundown. I'm really
Speaker 1: happy and excited to have Ken Cober FLP president back on.
Speaker 1: Talk about the FOP firefighters filing a complaint over the
Speaker 1: Cincinnati's Emergency Communications Center Responder program. Gonna join the program
Speaker 1: at six thirty. Looking forward to talking with you, Ken.
Speaker 1: If you're tuned in right now, I have stayed. Representative
Speaker 1: Jennifer Gross joins the program at seven o five, talk
Speaker 1: about Ohio Medicaid Committee. We're not really good when it
Speaker 1: comes to Medicaid payments and ferreting out fraud, waste and
Speaker 1: abuse here in the state of Ohio. We're gonna find
Speaker 1: out they're gonna be any changes to the system. Donald
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Speaker 1: Americans for Prosperity is paying for your dinner. We'll get
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Speaker 1: a Restore Liberty dot Us. George Brenman on yesterday talking
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Speaker 1: on that one and the AA Jay Ratliffe on the
Speaker 1: Rundown as he is every Thursday at eight thirty. Today,
Speaker 1: we talked about the latest on the Delta Toronto crash.
Speaker 1: I did get a chance to watch the video of that. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's just amazing that no one died in that just
Speaker 1: really mind boggling. See if he has any insight onto
Speaker 1: how that actually happened. I've heard lots of speculation on
Speaker 1: a plane hit the ground too hard, the wind was
Speaker 1: blowing sideways, all kinds of speculation on that. Trump firing
Speaker 1: hundreds of FAA employees and calls in space X to
Speaker 1: see about needed FAA upgrades. We all know the antiquated
Speaker 1: system they're using the Federal Aviation Administration and the control
Speaker 1: towers for airplanes. That goes back to like the nineteen
Speaker 1: fifties or post World War two. So yeah, probably needed
Speaker 1: an upgrade. It reminds me of the City of Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: just you know, having all of these projects that need
Speaker 1: to be done, infrastructure that's already in place. Ask screw it,
Speaker 1: we need something new. Let's go build something new and
Speaker 1: then ignore that. Please see General Aviation crash claims two
Speaker 1: lives in a mid air collition. That one just happened
Speaker 1: the other day. We'll talk about that with Jay see
Speaker 1: what he knows about it. And Airlines added again seeking
Speaker 1: to reverse December rule requiring penalties for breaking wheelchairs. Okay,
Speaker 1: oh man, and pardon me if I'm struggling a little
Speaker 1: bit today. I don't know anybody listening audience has had
Speaker 1: the laser treatment for glaucoma. I do have a family
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Speaker 1: taking drops for many years, apparently the drops don't work
Speaker 1: after a while, and then you get a little holes
Speaker 1: blasted in your eyeball with a laser. I had that
Speaker 1: done yesterday in my right eye and supposed to be
Speaker 1: done again next week for my left My eye hurts
Speaker 1: like hell today and I'm having a difficult time focusing.
Speaker 1: So if I fumble around a little bit more than normal,
Speaker 1: and I always fumble around, you know the reason why
Speaker 1: I've got my lights turned pretty low in here today
Speaker 1: because it's kind of light sensitive as well. Anyhow, sorry
Speaker 1: for my you know, just letting you know about my
Speaker 1: own personal troubles. These so don't try to labor the
Speaker 1: listening audience with them, but just trying to provide you
Speaker 1: an advanced explanation. Five on three, seven four nine fifty,
Speaker 1: five hundred, eight hundred and eighty two to three talk
Speaker 1: hit pound five fifty. If you have an AT and
Speaker 1: T phone, save me from myself, feel free to call.
Speaker 1: I thought this was cool. I will see if it stands.
Speaker 1: I probably someone will immediately rush into court to see
Speaker 1: if they can unring the bell that Donald Trump rang
Speaker 1: last evening by signing an executive order ending the use
Speaker 1: of your taxpayer money for federal resources supporting illegal immigration
Speaker 1: and illegal aliens. You can do that, apparently, so at
Speaker 1: least you can try, they said, the goal of the
Speaker 1: executive order is to ensure that quote, taxpayer resources are
Speaker 1: used to protect the interest of American citizens, not illegal aliens. Apparently,
Speaker 1: under the order of the federal departments and agencies have
Speaker 1: to identify and end all federally funded programs providing financial
Speaker 1: benefits to illegal aliens. Also seeks to ensure federal funds
Speaker 1: are not being used to support sanctuary policies and parathetically,
Speaker 1: we learned yesterday from Judge ent To Polatano interesting column
Speaker 1: on that one. The DOJ tabled the prosecution of Mayor
Speaker 1: Eric Adams in return for his agreement to help the
Speaker 1: federal government get rid of the illegal aliens, most notably
Speaker 1: the illegal immigrant criminals that are plaguing New York. Some
Speaker 1: people a little miffed about that. I think Judge of
Speaker 1: Polatana called it out on an ethical question whether or
Speaker 1: not that should even be, that it is even appropriate,
Speaker 1: which on many levels I understand, But it was just
Speaker 1: the funny thing about it was dismissed without prejudice, which
Speaker 1: in the law means they just stopped the prosecution, but
Speaker 1: they can reopen it at any time in the future,
Speaker 1: So they've got this, as the judge referred it, sort
Speaker 1: of damnically. He's hanging over Adam's head. So to the
Speaker 1: extent he doesn't make good on his promises to cooperate
Speaker 1: with Ice and federal authorities dealing with the illegal immigrant
Speaker 1: criminal population and getting rid of them, then they'll just
Speaker 1: open the litigation or the criminal prosecution back up. A
Speaker 1: dismissal without prejudice means it's done and over with stick
Speaker 1: a fork in it. You can't bring it back anyhow.
Speaker 1: Subtle distinction that, but fifty five care sea dot com
Speaker 1: for the podcastfeeding in here get to hear judge ended
Speaker 1: a politana's analysis anyway. According to the reporting, the order states,
Speaker 1: my administration will uphold the rule of law, defend against
Speaker 1: the waste of hard earned taxpayer resources, and protect benefits
Speaker 1: for American citizens in need, including individuals with disabilities and veterans.
Speaker 1: According to the fact sheet issued by the White House,
Speaker 1: President Trump is committed to safeguarding federal public benefits for
Speaker 1: American citizens who are truly in need, including, as I mentioned,
Speaker 1: individuals with disabilities and veterans. So the corresponding White House
Speaker 1: fact sheet quotes the executive order that Donald Trump signed
Speaker 1: cut and paste now in terms of facts and figures,
Speaker 1: whopping amounts spent on illegal immigration. You if you work
Speaker 1: and pay taxes, we're responsible for an estimated four hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty one billion dollars to care for illegal immigrants
Speaker 1: and guideways in the United States unlawfully since just twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one. And that is according to the US House
Speaker 1: and Homeland Security Committee. They did the number crunching on
Speaker 1: that one You, if you work and Pay taxes, has
Speaker 1: spent one hundred and eighty two billion, at least annually
Speaker 1: to cover the cost of twenty million illegal aliens and
Speaker 1: their children. Sixty six point five billion of that federal
Speaker 1: dollars and one hundred and fifteen point six billion from
Speaker 1: state and local expenses. Apparently, the Center for Immigration Studies
Speaker 1: estimated that one million illegal aliens cost the American taxpayers
Speaker 1: three billion dollars annually through welfare programs, which are not
Speaker 1: supposed to be available to those unlawfully in the United
Speaker 1: States according to the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation
Speaker 1: Act in nineteen ninety six. Now I'll be the first person,
Speaker 1: todmit I wasn't aware of that law. A lot of
Speaker 1: people have been asking the question out loud, how is
Speaker 1: it that an illegal immigrant can get money from the
Speaker 1: federal government. How is it that we keep buying and
Speaker 1: paying for stuff and things for folks who are here illegally. Well,
Speaker 1: according to Fox News reporting, they're not under that particular act. However,
Speaker 1: there is apparently a caveat illegal aliens granted parole become
Speaker 1: classified as qualified aliens when it comes to welfare programs,
Speaker 1: allowing them to become eligible for benefits with full eligibility
Speaker 1: granted after five years. So maybe it's that parole component
Speaker 1: that Biden put into place. If you are declared a
Speaker 1: parole EU are now eligible in spite of that specific
Speaker 1: Reconciliation Act in nineteen ninety six. Hmm, magical, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Let's see here, Executive orders stated the federal and state
Speaker 1: taxpayers paid more than sixteen point two billion dollars to
Speaker 1: provide Medicaid funded emergency services to illegal aliens. That estimate
Speaker 1: from the Congressional Budget Office, not some Republican subcommittee puting
Speaker 1: numbers together for people who are skeptical and cenecal. But
Speaker 1: you can be skeptic golden cenecal about the Congressional Budget
Speaker 1: Office numbers as well. I'm just quoting the figures that
Speaker 1: they came up with. It's a lot of money, is
Speaker 1: the point. Facts, She continued to bude administration gave billions
Speaker 1: and taxpayer dollars to left wing groups that facilitated mass
Speaker 1: illegal migration and provided legal services and challenges to deportation orders.
Speaker 1: They also pointed out FEMA allocated more than one billion
Speaker 1: billion dollars to illegal aliens since twenty twenty one, rather
Speaker 1: than FEMA money going to say, the flooded folks in
Speaker 1: North Carolina, which comes up in conversation regularly, and as
Speaker 1: I suppose, I don't know if it's connected with this
Speaker 1: specific ill order that he signed last night, or it's
Speaker 1: because Doge has been cracking down on a lot of
Speaker 1: these out payments. The US Catholic Bishops have sued the
Speaker 1: Trump administration for shutting down refugee funding, and it amounts
Speaker 1: to tens of millions of dollars. So you get hooked
Speaker 1: up to the aubilical court of the federal government, even
Speaker 1: if you're the US Catholic Bishops and the Catholic Church.
Speaker 1: That isn't money you can count on. How much are
Speaker 1: the parishioners going to give you in church on Sunday?
Speaker 1: You don't know how much is the federal government going
Speaker 1: to give you and how long will they fund your program?
Speaker 1: You don't know, you're not entitled to. It would be
Speaker 1: my argument we can get to take a little bit
Speaker 1: of a dive into the specifics of those allegations in
Speaker 1: the lawsuit. But the Trump administration also halted seven hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty nine million dollars for a contract to a
Speaker 1: left wing group that is really all about keeping the
Speaker 1: illegal immigrants in our country and doing anything they can
Speaker 1: within their power to stop deportation under any circumstances. So
Speaker 1: you have advocacy groups, groups that are actively facilitating bringing
Speaker 1: illegal immigrants into our country and advocating that there shouldn't
Speaker 1: be any specific exclusion on them, that the system is
Speaker 1: designed intentionally designed to exploit, exclude criminalized detainer to poor
Speaker 1: people deemed to be undeserving of inclusion in our national fabric,
Speaker 1: particularly black and brown people. The Acacias Center seven hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty nine million dollars for the services they provide,
Speaker 1: when that is the advocacy that they're involved with. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm tired of paying for messaging the flies in face
Speaker 1: of what I believe in, and well ultimately messaging an
Speaker 1: impact which is harmful to the American people. Go back
Speaker 1: to the budget amounts and the expenditures I just mentioned,
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Speaker 1: strongly encourage you to download. So back over to the
Speaker 1: US Cathleen Bishops fire in a lawsuit and where are
Speaker 1: the where are all this separation of church and state people?
Speaker 1: I mean, at every turn, the left jumps out of
Speaker 1: their skin when you find out that federal money or
Speaker 1: even state money ends up in the hands of some
Speaker 1: religious organization and they, you know, ACLU or somebody runs
Speaker 1: in the court to try to stop that from happening.
Speaker 1: How come it's different when all these religious organizations are
Speaker 1: getting your taxpayer dollars to facilitate illegal immigration in our country,
Speaker 1: not mean just helping people out once they're here, but
Speaker 1: actually to engage in active you know, bringing them in.
Speaker 1: So I I'm just curious to know what happened to
Speaker 1: them usually crawling out of the woodwork. And isn't one
Speaker 1: of the missions that when you give money to if
Speaker 1: you're a Catholic, give money in the plate. Isn't part
Speaker 1: of the money to serve the Christian mission of helping
Speaker 1: people in need?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 1: I know you got to pay for the big building
Speaker 1: in the church and the HVAC system and the salary
Speaker 1: of the people that worked there, and on and on
Speaker 1: and on and on and on. But I thought a
Speaker 1: slice of the action was supposed to go to help
Speaker 1: fulfill the Christian mission. Isn't why you used the church
Speaker 1: in order to fulfill the mission?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 1: Well, you're talking with their own priest about that, But
Speaker 1: apparently they have to rely on federal dollars. So we
Speaker 1: have this non governmental organization Catholic non governmental organizations final
Speaker 1: lawsuit against the Trump administration because they halted funding for
Speaker 1: the refugee resettlement program found in the US District Court
Speaker 1: of District Columbia. The US Conference of Catholic Bishops said
Speaker 1: that six thousand and seven hundred admitted refugees were assigned
Speaker 1: to the program for Refugee Resettlement, and then the Trump
Speaker 1: administration ended its funding, which they claim could jeopardize their efforts.
Speaker 1: Bishops apparently claimed that the funding means it is now
Speaker 1: on the hook for millions in costs incurred, which they
Speaker 1: suggest as the violation of federal laws. In other words,
Speaker 1: you promised us the money. We actively entered into, you know,
Speaker 1: a belief that you were going to give us the money,
Speaker 1: requiring us and obligating us to you know, follow through
Speaker 1: with it, and now the money's cut off. Well, if
Speaker 1: this is part of the Catholic mission, maybe as slice
Speaker 1: of that plate, money should fill the void here that
Speaker 1: the Trump administration is taken away just saying, according to
Speaker 1: the lawsuit, as a direct result of the suspension of
Speaker 1: the USCCCB has millions of dollars in pending unpaid reimbursements
Speaker 1: for services already rendered to refugees, and is accruing millions
Speaker 1: more each week, with no indication that any future reimbursement
Speaker 1: will be paid, or that the program will ever resume.
Speaker 1: They say it has already been forced to initiate layoffs
Speaker 1: for fifty employees. Joke because of the Catholic organization. Should
Speaker 1: we feel more sorry for the employees laid off under
Speaker 1: this program than the federal government employees that have been
Speaker 1: laid off during this Absolutely not. That was a quick
Speaker 1: You didn't even hesitate. If the funding is still suspended
Speaker 1: without court intervention, the USCCB faces irreparable damage to its
Speaker 1: long standing refugee resettlement programs and its reputation and relationship
Speaker 1: with its sub recipients and the refugee population it serves. Huh,
Speaker 1: knock down a notch in terms of reputation among the refugees.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, they're not giving me handouts anymore.
Speaker 5: Damn it.
Speaker 1: Er Catholic Church or that actionable law would argue that
Speaker 1: the resettlement program isn't foreign aid and is instead a
Speaker 1: domestic program to help newly arrived refugees meet initial needs.
Speaker 1: USCCB spends more on refugee resettlement each year than it
Speaker 1: receives in funding from the federal government, but it cannot
Speaker 1: sustain its programs without the millions in federal funding that
Speaker 1: provide the foundation of this private public partnership. Well, I
Speaker 1: think one could easily observe that this is in fact,
Speaker 1: the US Catholic bishops are actually fulfilling the mission of
Speaker 1: the Catholic Church helping out these poor, deprived people that
Speaker 1: don't have homes and food and shelter and medicine and
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff that is I would say,
Speaker 1: arguably within the confines of the Catholic doctrine and most
Speaker 1: Christian doctrines helping those in need. So by the federal
Speaker 1: government funding this operation, are we not funding these spread
Speaker 1: of the organization's mission teachings of Catholicism and Christianity generally.
Speaker 1: And the American taxpayer money is then given to the
Speaker 1: Catholic Church, who's worried about its reputation here, right, because
Speaker 1: if the newly arrived immigrant population are being served by
Speaker 1: the Catholic Church, they don't know where the Catholic Church
Speaker 1: got the money, so they give credit to the Catholic Church.
Speaker 1: Right And since Catholic Church can't continue this mission without
Speaker 1: federal taxpayer dollars, their reputation is being harmed, not Donald
Speaker 1: Trump's the White Houses or the federal government's reputation for
Speaker 1: cutting off the money the Catholic Church's reputation. So this
Speaker 1: ultimately is a marketing thing for the Catholic Church, and
Speaker 1: that seems to me to be potentially a violation of
Speaker 1: the First Amendment. I'm just saying. By twenty seven, fifty
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Speaker 1: President Ken Kober fast forward one hour from now about
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Emergency Communications Center Responders program and some concerns
Speaker 1: at GP and the fire. The FOP and the firefighters
Speaker 1: have on that one. Let us see here in the
Speaker 1: absence of phone calls diving local stories. So we approve
Speaker 1: recreational marijuana in Ohio, lawmakers now want to limit it
Speaker 1: and criminalize certain aspects of it. Senate Bill fifty six
Speaker 1: would ban public smoking driving while the driver or any
Speaker 1: passenger in the vehicle is using marijuana, and reduce the
Speaker 1: number of homegrown plants allowed by half, and increase the
Speaker 1: tax from ten seten percent to fifteen percent. And I
Speaker 1: read recently that the Michigan marijuana weed and it's been
Speaker 1: legalized a lot longer than Ohio. A lot of people
Speaker 1: go to Michigan. From what I hear, it's about half
Speaker 1: the price you pay in Ohio. So by jacking the
Speaker 1: tax up here in Ohio, I don't know that that
Speaker 1: necessarily is going to improve the revenue situation. But who
Speaker 1: am I. None of the proposed rules were part of
Speaker 1: the constitutional amendment passed by fifty seven percent of the
Speaker 1: voters here in the state of Ohio. Senator Steven Hoffman
Speaker 1: tip city behind the changes. In short, this bill is
Speaker 1: about government efficiency, consumer and child safety, and maintaining access
Speaker 1: to voter approved adult use marijuana. This same bill passed
Speaker 1: the Senate last General Assembly, but it didn't pass in
Speaker 1: the House. ACLU thinks the bill ignores the mandate from
Speaker 1: the voters, saying Ohio voters overwhelmingly supported issue too, says
Speaker 1: Gary Daniels, their chief lobbyist from the ACLU, and doing so,
Speaker 1: they endorse policies regarding adult use cannabis. SB fifty six
Speaker 1: now proposes to roll back these changes in hole or
Speaker 1: in part, in an affront of those same voters, well,
Speaker 1: voters who will be able to vote their people out
Speaker 1: of office around next time around if they're upset about
Speaker 1: this one anyway. The legislation apparently cuts in half the
Speaker 1: number of plans that can be grown in a home.
Speaker 1: You can do twelve now, but they want to cut
Speaker 1: it back to six. Joe, why not five or eight
Speaker 1: or seven? Or stay out of my house. You can
Speaker 1: get a ton of weed off of one plant anyway.
Speaker 1: Also lower the THC level from extracts from ninety percent
Speaker 1: to seventy percent. And also, and I don't know how
Speaker 1: you enforce this one ban sharing between adults. Does that
Speaker 1: mean you can't pass the Ducchi It also says you
Speaker 1: can't smoke weed after ten PM Joe amendment also mandates
Speaker 1: some of the tax billers be spent on social equity
Speaker 1: and jobs programs, but the bill eliminates that provision reduces
Speaker 1: the money spent to spend it on mental health and
Speaker 1: addiction services. Well, you know what we always say about
Speaker 1: Republicans in Columbus, Joe. From the ACLU's part, Finally, the
Speaker 1: ACU in Ohio urges this community to not rush this
Speaker 1: bill through the Senate. There's lots of interest in this
Speaker 1: issue across the Ohio, but many do not have an
Speaker 1: opportunity to testify today or have to a chance to
Speaker 1: fully review be one hundred and forty seven page bill
Speaker 1: with numerous provisions introduced less than one month ago. Your
Speaker 1: constituents deserve the chance to fully weigh on an important
Speaker 1: issue they pass so resoundingly before it is demolished by politicians.
Speaker 1: It just says thanks for the first time, Joe. He
Speaker 1: agrees with the ACLU on that one. Housing affordability says
Speaker 1: took but Randy Tucker props over to enquire took another hit.
Speaker 1: Kicking off the new year. In the Cincinnati area, asking
Speaker 1: rents went higher in January than any other major metro
Speaker 1: era in the country. Median asking rent that would be
Speaker 1: the typical list price for an apartment across all apartment
Speaker 1: times jump fifteen percent in January compared to the same
Speaker 1: month a year ago. This reported by Redfinn, biggest year
Speaker 1: over increase in asking rents among the fifty most populous
Speaker 1: US metro areas, pushing the typical monthly rent payment in
Speaker 1: the city of Cincinnati to fourteen and twenty dollars up
Speaker 1: from twelve to thirty five over the same period. Now
Speaker 1: that appropriately time, Joe rents up despite more new rentals
Speaker 1: coming online in the local market. Some experts predicting would
Speaker 1: soften rent increases because there's simply more supply to keep
Speaker 1: up with demand. But many of the apartments coming on
Speaker 1: the market in Cincinnati area and new developments high rent
Speaker 1: neighborhoods downtown over the Rhine, for example, which carries higher
Speaker 1: rants then while other locations and also provide amenities that
Speaker 1: people are looking for, pools, dogs, spas, fitness centers, connective communities.
Speaker 1: Is going to solve all this, though, Joe, just just
Speaker 1: wait for it. I'm sure those apartments are going to
Speaker 1: build in Hyde Park if that goes through. Yeah, those
Speaker 1: will be really affordable, so affordable five thirty six fifty
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Speaker 1: before I getting Stack is stupid. Got Jerry on the line. Jerry,
Speaker 1: thanks for calling this morning. A very happy Friday eve
Speaker 1: to you.
Speaker 7: Yeah, happy Friday to YouTube. Right, quick question, there's numbers
Speaker 7: you gave for the illegal immigrants that were caused that
Speaker 7: were that we're paying. There's bank the last census in
Speaker 7: twenty twenty three, should three hundred and thirty five million
Speaker 7: people in the United States? What would that work out
Speaker 7: to per person?
Speaker 1: I'd have to get my calculator out for that one. Man.
Speaker 8: I'm just curious that I don't think.
Speaker 7: The US citizens are actually looking at what that actual
Speaker 7: cost is per person. Yeah, we have that could benefit
Speaker 7: even more people.
Speaker 1: Well, when when when you when you actually ultimately do
Speaker 1: the calculations, you know, it sounds like it's going to
Speaker 1: be a big, fat, you know, like ten fifteen thousand
Speaker 1: dollars per human in the United States and in the
Speaker 1: math usually doesn't work out that way, but you can
Speaker 1: do the division. I mean, we're talking about a total
Speaker 1: figure of four and fifty one billion, and we have
Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty say million people. So I'll just
Speaker 1: I have to go to my calculator and just do
Speaker 1: the division on that one. But it's an eat, I
Speaker 1: don't think.
Speaker 7: I just I just don't think anybody who is looking
Speaker 7: at it as the cost per person.
Speaker 3: Too for that.
Speaker 7: And I did you hear there any more billions and
Speaker 7: trillions thrown around like it's a like at the dime
Speaker 7: and a nickel. I don't think if they actually brought
Speaker 7: it down to the individual person, I think it would
Speaker 7: make more sense.
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more. But you know, that's why I
Speaker 1: always try to express like a billion is a thousand
Speaker 1: stacks of a million. You know, if you walk through
Speaker 1: that process, you start realizing how much money you're talking
Speaker 1: about here, and it's it's it's I mean, it's it's
Speaker 1: like it's like looking at one of those Hubble space
Speaker 1: telescope pictures of the universe and seeing all those tiny
Speaker 1: thousands and tens of thousands, if that millions of blips
Speaker 1: of light and wreck and noting that each one is
Speaker 1: a galaxy, not a star, but a galaxy, and it
Speaker 1: just it ends up frying your mind out. That's the
Speaker 1: kind of dollars we're talking about here, Jerry.
Speaker 7: I just I'd love that what that number is. We
Speaker 7: use people always complaining about, you know, how much are
Speaker 7: going to cost? And how much does that cost? Well,
Speaker 7: how much does that costing each individual person? Eggs are
Speaker 7: expensive right now, but how many eggs? How many dozen
Speaker 7: eggs could I buy with the money if the government
Speaker 7: gave that to me instead of one of the league.
Speaker 1: Lands twelve thousand, eighty five dollars.
Speaker 7: Per person, And that's per year that we're spending.
Speaker 1: On that on that's actually the four hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: one billion dollars cited in the information from the House
Speaker 1: and Homeland Security Committee that since twenty twenty one, So
Speaker 1: that is not an annualized cost, annual cost one hundred
Speaker 1: and eighty two billion dollars with sixty six or one
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty two billion with sixty six and a
Speaker 1: half billion coming from the FEDS and one hundred and
Speaker 1: fifteen points six billion coming from the various state tax payers.
Speaker 1: So but you know what, I imagine every American since
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, they would prefer getting a check for
Speaker 1: twelve hundred and eighty fi five dollars of knowing it's going
Speaker 1: to illegal immigrants who really aren't legally supposed to be here.
Speaker 1: Right right there, you.
Speaker 7: Go, all right, I appreciate it from Atlanta, and we'll
Speaker 7: be listening the rest of there.
Speaker 1: Oh fantastic, man, that's cool, thanks for calling. You get
Speaker 1: the biggest kick out of that what Dave's got this
Speaker 1: morning day, Welcome to the Morning Show, and Happy Friday
Speaker 1: eve to you.
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Speaker 8: I am usually sending messages under the name of Dave
Speaker 8: the tax Nerd, because they really have a tax nerd
Speaker 8: with a master of the taxation and experiences contempt to organization.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I hope I don't.
Speaker 8: Bore the hell out everybody. But there is actually a
Speaker 8: volume published that lists, if they so, Catholic charities and
Speaker 8: it says, thick volume of the demo organization. The Catholic
Speaker 8: Church generally can afford very good experts on their subjects,
Speaker 8: so usually they don't get themselves in a whole lot
Speaker 8: of trouble. There's a pignant church.
Speaker 1: Well, i'll tell you what in the interesting time, boil
Speaker 1: the point down. Just boil it down.
Speaker 8: Okay. Generally exempt organizations cannot conduct illegal activities. They're okay,
Speaker 8: So if they are, that's an issue. Uh. The advocacy
Speaker 8: of issues that's been greatly weakened by court case of
Speaker 8: the seventies called Big Bomber RAG has allowed a lot
Speaker 8: more propaganda than it's usually in the rags. But if
Speaker 8: they are actually conducting illegal activities, we're back to having
Speaker 8: issues with exempt organization similar to the whole Tea party mess.
Speaker 8: You you'll see some charities that are connected to a
Speaker 8: church that are not the church. So, uh, this is
Speaker 8: deep in the weeks, but I think we're in for
Speaker 8: some more fun with the illegal activities with illegal.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yes, yes, I agree completely, And these
Speaker 1: things will take time to work out. Maybe Justice Department
Speaker 1: needs to do an investigation of the FBI needs to
Speaker 1: follow the money trail. We need to investigate what the
Speaker 1: advocacy has been done on and whether they're facilitating actually
Speaker 1: bringing in illegal immigrants which may violate laws. I agree
Speaker 1: with all that, but you got you gotta wait and
Speaker 1: net and it takes time, and it takes effort. At
Speaker 1: least this administration is in trying to apply the time
Speaker 1: and effort necessary to ferret it out. Thanks for calling
Speaker 1: tax Nerd Dave, Good to hear from you. Is for
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Speaker 1: kober Returns got some complaints going on over the Cincinnia
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Speaker 1: Let us see here. Maybe Pete calling in right now,
Speaker 1: but in the meantime, stack is stupid. Leading off with Nathaniel,
Speaker 1: note the name Nathaniel morin California Advisor to the Federal
Speaker 1: Ministry or Canadian rather Advisor's important that it's Canada because
Speaker 1: they have different laws there. Canadian Advisor to the Federal
Speaker 1: Ministry of Women apparently released a statement defending I'm going
Speaker 1: to say his participation in women's marathons and other running
Speaker 1: competitions as a transgender yet biological male. So it's a
Speaker 1: guy claiming to be a chick, referencing Donald Trump's recent
Speaker 1: executive order of preventing trans athletes from competing in women's
Speaker 1: in girls' sports. In the statement quote, I am aware
Speaker 1: that my participation in so many competitions will be talked
Speaker 1: about because of my medical history. The situation in the
Speaker 1: United States, and the elements of certain politicians do not
Speaker 1: help either. He she whatever you jar your own conclusions,
Speaker 1: went on to say, with all due respect to level
Speaker 1: one level, I compete at amateur recreational levels. Specifically the
Speaker 1: state of scientific research in the field for the amateur
Speaker 1: recreation level and the fact that I have undergone a
Speaker 1: medical transition, I consider that I have the legitimacy to
Speaker 1: participate in the right category unless the law prohibits me
Speaker 1: from doing so. Let us remember that in Canada no
Speaker 1: law prohibits it, and for other countries, I will comply
Speaker 1: with local laws in force when it applies. Trans folks
Speaker 1: only want to fully integrate as their authentic self and
Speaker 1: be happy in our society. Well it's all about you, then,
Speaker 1: isn't it. That's not about the other girls that you
Speaker 1: have advantage over Look. Look right here, we have an
Speaker 1: illustration of that morin. She came in, he came. She
Speaker 1: came in first place in a five kilometer event on
Speaker 1: February fourth, time, twenty five thirty two, earning the title
Speaker 1: of quote fastest female close quote across all age categories
Speaker 1: runner up. An actual girl in the ten to twelve
Speaker 1: age category who did a twenty six oh eight would
Speaker 1: have come in first place had this more in we'll
Speaker 1: call her moron not competed. Had she competed in the
Speaker 1: men's category, the transgender runner would have come in tenth
Speaker 1: place among all male participants. Huh huh, but it's all
Speaker 1: about him or Two men from Colorad arrested up. They
Speaker 1: allegedly tried to smuggle tens of thousands of dollars worth
Speaker 1: of methan, fetamine, and tobacco into a federal prison in
Speaker 1: Louisiana by launching the contraband over a security wall using
Speaker 1: a professionally manufactured cannon. Why are you doing that? Professionally
Speaker 1: manufactured is in quotes Jose Francisco Herreramunez eighteen, Angel Gonzales
Speaker 1: Gutierrez nineteen taken into custody, charged with one count each
Speaker 1: of attempting to induce contract introduce contraband into a penal
Speaker 1: institution one count each of attempting to distribute meth amfetamine.
Speaker 1: News relaates from the Sheriff's office there so the two
Speaker 1: suspects were attempting to smuggle in eleven one hundred and
Speaker 1: twelve thousand dollars worth of tobacco and almost ninety thousand
Speaker 1: dollars worth a methan fetamine using a cannon. Sheriff Off
Speaker 1: said two suspects, both of whom are from Greely, Colorado,
Speaker 1: had planned to use the Canada launch the items over
Speaker 1: a security fence into the group's into the grounds of
Speaker 1: the federal prison. The cannon, which was propelled by compressed air,
Speaker 1: had a range of shooting items more than three hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty feet. Sheriff told local news there. The two
Speaker 1: suspects attempted to get the drugs into the facility. It
Speaker 1: wasn't successful, according to the sheriff, thanks to a very
Speaker 1: observant deputy, he was able to stop it before they
Speaker 1: were able to get the drugs into the prison. That
Speaker 1: much meth would have just been devastating in that population, said.
Speaker 1: The cannon they recovered was not a homemade gadget. He said,
Speaker 1: this was something not this was not something that was homemade.
Speaker 1: It was bought. It was professionally manufactured, and it's very powerful.
Speaker 1: Five point fifty five bitch five karosity talk station. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they could have used the drum. So they keep saying.
Speaker 1: You know, the border wall that Trump wants to build
Speaker 1: may very well deter and keep out the flow of
Speaker 1: human beings. But you know, modern drones these days, you
Speaker 1: can get quite a bit of meth over the just
Speaker 1: by why in it? Five fifty six don't go away?
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Speaker 1: Ohio State Representative Jennifer Gross joins the program to talk
Speaker 1: about Ohio Medicaid Committee, and we will ask whether there's
Speaker 1: gonna be any changes to the system described with being
Speaker 1: filled with sort of fraud, waste, and abuse. Anyhow, how
Speaker 1: much money is going out the door that shouldn't go
Speaker 1: out the door here in Ohio. Don't know if she
Speaker 1: has the answer to the question, but we'll certainly pose
Speaker 1: it to her. Donovan and the Americans for Prosperity fast
Speaker 1: forward to seven thirty Protecting Prosperity and the Trump tax cuts.
Speaker 1: They got that event at the farm coming up where
Speaker 1: the Americans for Prosperity is footing the bill for your
Speaker 1: dinner and explaining the legislation and talking about here in Ohio.
Speaker 1: Michael Walsh got a book coming up at eight o five,
Speaker 1: A Rage to Conquer Twelve Battles that change the course
Speaker 1: of Western History. And then, of course it being Thursday,
Speaker 1: every Thursday at eight thirty, we are blessed to hear
Speaker 1: from I heard me the aviation expert Jay Ratliffe. And
Speaker 1: let's turn to the phones five one, three, seven, four, nine,
Speaker 1: fifty eight hundred and eighty two to three talk Pete,
Speaker 1: thanks for calling this morning, and a happy Thursday to you.
Speaker 8: Thanks Brian.
Speaker 10: As all as ironic that the Biden administration was given
Speaker 10: hundreds of millions to the Catholic Church while simultaneously having
Speaker 10: that FBI intil trade them forgotten knows what reasons.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I just want to know where
Speaker 1: all these anti church and state people are who always
Speaker 1: come out of the woodwork when a church ends up
Speaker 1: getting a grant or received a payment from a state
Speaker 1: or federal government. And obviously right now there are a
Speaker 1: bunch of you know, religious organizations getting heaploads of money
Speaker 1: from the American taxpayer merely because they are assisting illegal
Speaker 1: immigrants while at the same time fulfilling their Christian mission.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, that's kind of the point I
Speaker 1: was making. It's good marketing for them. They don't go
Speaker 1: around explaining that all the money that they're spending on
Speaker 1: the illegal immigrants and these goods and services are providing
Speaker 1: to them comes from the American taxpayer as opposed to
Speaker 1: the Catholic Church contributions in the offering plate. Just contemplate it,
Speaker 1: that's all. Just you know, I mean, I find many
Speaker 1: of the arguments that are made about separation of church
Speaker 1: and state to be posterous, and there isn't a direct
Speaker 1: support of the church. It isn't the establishment of a religion.
Speaker 1: We don't have a theocracy here. If they're doing something
Speaker 1: that the government wants done, just like non religious organizations,
Speaker 1: and they I think they should have a place at
Speaker 1: the table to receive money as well. So I'm not
Speaker 1: really adopting this theory that I'm talking about. I'm just
Speaker 1: calling out those who regularly call out or the in
Speaker 1: file lawsuits to stop that type of thing from happening.
Speaker 1: Silence is deafening. I thought this is rather comical, of course,
Speaker 1: the Democrats pulling their hair out over Elon Musk and
Speaker 1: his efforts with the Department of Government Efficiency to ferret
Speaker 1: out fraud, waste and abuse and stop programs from getting
Speaker 1: money and all that kind of thing, and they don't
Speaker 1: have anything but screaming and yelling. And there are a
Speaker 1: lot of folks just making this point. James Carville the
Speaker 1: other day was talking about how miserable the Democrats look
Speaker 1: and sound and making these arguments against these cuts, defending
Speaker 1: the indefensible u On Jesse Waters. The other day, Dan
Speaker 1: Turantine apparently Democratic advisor asked about democrats strategy to vocally
Speaker 1: criticize Elon Musk's efforts. The number one thing in politics
Speaker 1: is you want to respect the people, he said, listen
Speaker 1: to them and solve their problems. We're failing the common
Speaker 1: sense test. Rather than saying, hey, you know, some of
Speaker 1: what they're finding, anybody in the right mind would say
Speaker 1: we should end it. Instead, we scream about everything, and
Speaker 1: so when we find stuff that, in our opinion, probably
Speaker 1: is worthy of discussion, the average voter says, forget it,
Speaker 1: and all you do is scream no, and they're crazy.
Speaker 5: True.
Speaker 1: John Lovett, former Obama speechwriter, Here's what he said. Honestly,
Speaker 1: some of this is pretty annoying because it's some of
Speaker 1: the stuff we should have done. We didn't know how
Speaker 1: you could do some of this, referring to the cuts
Speaker 1: that Musk and Doge are doing right now. I don't
Speaker 1: know if being a former Obama speech trib he give
Speaker 1: him any credibility, but we didn't know you could do
Speaker 1: some of this. Is that really? I mean's he's serious
Speaker 1: when he says that we all knew the government is slow,
Speaker 1: We all know the government can be inefficient. He said,
Speaker 1: we all know that the bureaucracy can be bloated. We
Speaker 1: all worked in the f wording White House. We tried
Speaker 1: to reorganize the government. We tried to find the efficiency.
Speaker 1: It's hard to do, said John frou Favreau, another Obama
Speaker 1: speech writer, sharing love of its frustrations. How about that, No,
Speaker 1: it's not hard to do. Musk is proving it right now.
Speaker 1: I love this Wall Street Journal article headline countering what
Speaker 1: these morons said. DOGE is searching for wasteful spending. It
Speaker 1: isn't hard to find. Every year, they point out, agency
Speaker 1: reports posted online document billions in improper payments, which include fraud,
Speaker 1: but also under payments, duplicate payments, payments to ineligible recipients
Speaker 1: for ineligible goods or services, court to the Government Accountability Office.
Speaker 1: They also include include correctly paid amounts that didn't follow regulations,
Speaker 1: such as contracts missing required signatures. So they're tracking this
Speaker 1: stuff and they have been for quite some time. They
Speaker 1: point the most recent fiscal year ending September of last year,
Speaker 1: the agencies that reported their improper payments identified one hundred
Speaker 1: and forty nine billion, which amounts about three point seven
Speaker 1: percent of payments from the four point one trillion. Laid
Speaker 1: out reports cover a large chunk of total government spending,
Speaker 1: which the CBO congratulate budget A Budget office puts its
Speaker 1: six point seventy five trillion dollars last fiscal year. Last year,
Speaker 1: they write more than ninety percent of improper payments were
Speaker 1: over payments. Far back as two thousand and two, Congress
Speaker 1: required agencies to estimate and report improper payments every year.
Speaker 1: The low strengthened in twenty ten, twenty thirteen, and twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: The estimates come from statistical samples of payments that the
Speaker 1: agencies check in detail, using methods approved by independent inspector
Speaker 1: general for each agency, like Todd Zenzer used to be
Speaker 1: inspector in general. So what do they figure out? I mean, here,
Speaker 1: here's the numbers are right here, Medicare three point one
Speaker 1: seven billion, Medicate thirty one point one billion, Medicare advantage
Speaker 1: nineteen point one billion. I could go on and read
Speaker 1: all of them, and every single department has already identified
Speaker 1: statistically that they pay out way too much money, countering
Speaker 1: what those other clowns said that oh, we wanted to
Speaker 1: do it, we just don't know how really engage in
Speaker 1: accounting practices be a little bit more mindful for the
Speaker 1: money goes out the door, Maybe require the appropriate coding
Speaker 1: on it, Maybe follow appropriate procedures so when it comes
Speaker 1: time to do an audit Pentagon, we'll know exactly what
Speaker 1: you spent the money on, which presently we don't. They
Speaker 1: just pay lip service. Over the years. It's a campaign
Speaker 1: talking point. Yes we're gonna fare it out Fraudway's and
Speaker 1: Abusess and no they're not. They're not gonna do damn
Speaker 1: thing about it. Finally, finally, we have an administration who
Speaker 1: actually is making good on what they promised to do,
Speaker 1: and it's blowing everyone's minds. Wait a second, he's doing
Speaker 1: what he's doing what he told he was gonna do,
Speaker 1: and he's I don't know, everybody listens to politicians on
Speaker 1: the campaign trail, goes yeah right, I hear you, Sure
Speaker 1: you are sure, you are right? Whatever? Yeah sure, And
Speaker 1: actually for I think but like the first time in
Speaker 1: anybody's life, we have a politician that is making good
Speaker 1: on the pledges made on the campaign trail and doing
Speaker 1: it in remarkable speed. I mean, who can argue that
Speaker 1: Trump and his administration haven't accomplished more than Joe Biden
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Speaker 1: Six twenty Happy Thursday five one three seven fifty five
Speaker 1: hundred eight hundred eighty two three talk and I go
Speaker 1: to the phone. It's got a couple of callers online
Speaker 1: and I start with west Saie Jim. Good to hear
Speaker 1: from you, Jim, my friend.
Speaker 7: Good morning, sir.
Speaker 1: How are you? I'm doing pretty good except for my
Speaker 1: right eye because I had that clock home a laser
Speaker 1: surgery yesterday and it's just bugging the hell out of me.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 11: The wife had that done. Man, she had one done
Speaker 11: and then the other one they gave her a big
Speaker 11: problem with. So she's not in line.
Speaker 5: For that yet.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I've got to have the other one done
Speaker 1: next Thursday. So I'm not going to be on the
Speaker 1: radio because they scheduled at seven forty five, so I
Speaker 1: can't can't be here, and.
Speaker 11: They do the needle poking in the eye thing.
Speaker 1: Now it's just a laser they blast. I mean she
Speaker 1: must have blasted like fifty fifty little bursts of this laser.
Speaker 1: So they just to help them.
Speaker 11: Not fun, not fun at all, I guess.
Speaker 1: No, it didn't. It went by quickly, it didn't hurt.
Speaker 1: He felt like just the tiniest, tiniest little prick. But
Speaker 1: they said, you know, you may have some numbness or
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Speaker 1: And I did take my aspron this morning, but it's
Speaker 1: watery and I can't. I mean, I lose my focus
Speaker 1: pretty easily right now because of the just the weird
Speaker 1: reality of what's going on. Sorry to go down that road,
Speaker 1: but I'm just struggling with you asked how I was doing.
Speaker 11: I'll give you the reason I called, because I know
Speaker 11: you're short on time.
Speaker 5: You got another caller.
Speaker 11: Today is turning day for the petitions for mayor, and
Speaker 11: four o'clock is when they have to have them in
Speaker 11: and then we're done. That's who that's who's going to run.
Speaker 11: From what I understand, it's only going to be three people.
Speaker 11: Even though eight people pull petitions, I don't think the
Speaker 11: other one's got them. But the thing I want to
Speaker 11: tell you about was that kind of ironic was that
Speaker 11: a person was out collecting them yesterday, uh signatures? Was
Speaker 11: Mayor Purval.
Speaker 1: Collecting signatures?
Speaker 11: Yes, sir, he was out collecting signatures. So I don't
Speaker 11: know if he was running scared, or he's doing a
Speaker 11: photo op or or whatever. You know, some people pay
Speaker 11: to get their signatures done. You know they pay a
Speaker 11: group of people. Oh yeah, yeah, sure, that kind of deal.
Speaker 11: And I know one of them that is doing it.
Speaker 11: But you know, like I said, he was out collected
Speaker 11: the things yesterday, So I think that's kind of ironic,
Speaker 11: rather interesting duck. So anyway, hopefully you know Corey's are
Speaker 11: good and he gets he gets on the ballot, and
Speaker 11: I know Joe will have him on here real soon.
Speaker 11: He was on your sister station yesterday and he told
Speaker 11: me that he got a giant boost. He went out
Speaker 11: to the Hyde Park Kroger's and he said he had
Speaker 11: a giant boost and people coming over and.
Speaker 8: Signing his petitions.
Speaker 1: Oh good.
Speaker 11: So he's one of them that's not paying people to
Speaker 11: get him done.
Speaker 1: Understand that. And he was on my program I think first.
Speaker 11: Yes he was, Yes he was. And it took your
Speaker 11: sister station a week. So I'm kind of anxious and
Speaker 11: glad that you guys got him on first. Right out
Speaker 11: of the last thing is you can still go down
Speaker 11: early this morning to his coffee shop and sign the petition.
Speaker 11: So I'm merging people if they live in the city.
Speaker 11: And even though this is not a democratic basically station,
Speaker 11: a Democrat can sign those petitions. So it's not party
Speaker 11: I guess affiliated or whatever, it's open.
Speaker 8: It's open.
Speaker 11: Anybody can sign those petitions.
Speaker 1: Well, that's great, and I wish him all the luck
Speaker 1: in the world. I mean, at least in the final analysis,
Speaker 1: and he will benefit the process by interjecting some alternative
Speaker 1: thoughts into the conversation. That's what we need down there,
Speaker 1: all right, Sure, thanks Jim, appreciate the propping them up.
Speaker 1: And hopefully he gets in the race. That'd be fantastic.
Speaker 1: Let's see what George has got. George, thanks for holding there.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the program.
Speaker 7: Good morning, bron. I was just thinking that's we're deporting
Speaker 7: all these you know, low skilled workers, and we're freeing
Speaker 7: up all these bureaucrats. Do you think we could possibly
Speaker 7: train them to come up to those low skilled jobs
Speaker 7: kicking fruit vegetables?
Speaker 1: Come on, George, you know those are jobs Americans won't do.
Speaker 1: I'm from the answers. Of course they could take a
Speaker 1: position picking fruit. Of course they could. I'm sure they'll choose.
Speaker 4: Not to do that.
Speaker 1: But if you have a college education and that education
Speaker 1: doesn't provide you with a you know, all fundamental bases
Speaker 1: to do something that society wants and needs, then you
Speaker 1: have to find employment in some other field. And of
Speaker 1: course that is one option. Just can't imagine them doing it,
Speaker 1: but I like the idea. Six point forty five with
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Speaker 1: when FLP President Ken Kober joins the program. Fraternal Order
Speaker 1: Peace Chapter sixty nine, representing the CINCINNTI Police Department. But
Speaker 1: talk about today what they and the firefighters are concerned about,
Speaker 1: which is the Cincinnati What is It? Community Responder Program? Ken,
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the morning show. Good to hear from you.
Speaker 14: Thank good morning, Brian, Thanks for having me all right let's.
Speaker 1: Start with what is the community Responder program? Like, this
Speaker 1: is something set up by city hall or by the
Speaker 1: by city council.
Speaker 14: Yeah, so this program is actually developed by the communications
Speaker 14: director emergency communications director, and the idea behind it is
Speaker 14: to basically take civilians that are going to answer calls
Speaker 14: for service instead of having things that traditionally.
Speaker 1: The police do, like calls in the nine to one one.
Speaker 14: Yeah, so when the call comes in from nine to
Speaker 14: one to one, then the communications director has instructed the
Speaker 14: dispatchers to instead of dispatching the police, they're going to
Speaker 14: dispatch the civilians instead of the police for certain runs.
Speaker 1: Well, that sounds like it might come with inherent dangers
Speaker 1: for people who are not trained law enforcement professionals.
Speaker 14: It's been proven already to be rather disastrous. Oh really,
Speaker 14: especially for the citizens.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay, and these are employees of the city
Speaker 1: that are doing this, that's correct. Okay, So paid employees
Speaker 1: from the city are responding to what other would have
Speaker 1: been a traditional police nine response. He said, it's been
Speaker 1: a disaster. Can you give my listeners and me an
Speaker 1: illustration of maybe where something went sort of sideways on
Speaker 1: the citizen.
Speaker 8: Sure.
Speaker 14: So one of the things that they're doing is they're
Speaker 14: having them respond to auto accidents and instead of their
Speaker 14: theory was well, we're going to lighten the load on
Speaker 14: the police. However, what they're doing is they're showing up
Speaker 14: going to a crash scene and telling them well, if
Speaker 14: you want to report, just go to the police district.
Speaker 14: But what we've seen so far is happening is two
Speaker 14: particular egregious instances is where they showed up a woman
Speaker 14: who was visibly pregnant, I think she was like eight
Speaker 14: months pregnant, was injured in an auto accident, and instead
Speaker 14: of calling for an ambulance, he said, we'll just go
Speaker 14: to the police district and have a police report filed out.
Speaker 14: That's what you want to do. So you have an
Speaker 14: injured pregnant woman shows up at the police district and
Speaker 14: they're like what is this. Another one was a guy
Speaker 14: shows up at the district. So yeah, these civilian people
Speaker 14: told us to just come here and follow this police report.
Speaker 14: He goes, but I'm kind of confused because the woman
Speaker 14: that hit me was visibly drunk.
Speaker 1: There you go, they let her drive away, Just getting
Speaker 1: ready to ask that they had been trained in recognizing
Speaker 1: impaired driving. Do they know what to look for. Can
Speaker 1: they Can they administer the traditional test to determine whether
Speaker 1: someone is impaired behind the wheel or are they just
Speaker 1: going to overlook something like that that's concerning.
Speaker 14: Well, sure it is. Yeah, I mean the liability that
Speaker 14: the city's assuming by having one of their employees just
Speaker 14: let somebody that either didn't recognize it or is still
Speaker 14: equipped to recognize these kind of things, they let them
Speaker 14: drive away, drive away. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh my word, Well, I guess I got a little
Speaker 1: burning question going on in the back of my head here.
Speaker 1: If you had a full contingent of police officers, in
Speaker 1: other words, if you weren't behind in numbers by how
Speaker 1: many of you down now like three hundred or so,
Speaker 1: now we're down one hundred and forty, one hundred and forty. Well,
Speaker 1: if you had those one hundred and forty officers now
Speaker 1: working and with the police, with the actively with the
Speaker 1: police department, would this would these community responders even be necessary?
Speaker 1: I mean, aren't they supposed to? And this sounds like
Speaker 1: a band aid solution they came up with to avoid
Speaker 1: hiring more police officers.
Speaker 14: That's exactly what we suspect is going on.
Speaker 1: Well, and that's where your union contract comes in right.
Speaker 14: Well, sure, you know the collective bargaining agreement that we
Speaker 14: have says that the work that is traditionally of the police,
Speaker 14: if they want someone else to do that work, then
Speaker 14: it has to be negotiated. So I sent a cease
Speaker 14: and desist order last August when they came up with
Speaker 14: this plan and told them that if this is something
Speaker 14: that you want to do, you must first negotiate it
Speaker 14: with the FOP. They just turned a blind eye to
Speaker 14: it once they started hiring people. Is when we decided
Speaker 14: to take action and we FOIULD an unfair labor practice.
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Speaker 1: with f OP President Ken Kobe. We're talking about this
Speaker 1: greater since a community responder program where they send civilians
Speaker 1: out on what otherwise we'd be normally a police run
Speaker 1: after someone calls in the complaint. I really troubled by
Speaker 1: that whole automobile accident thing because you anticipated exactly where
Speaker 1: I was going, because it could be an OVI situation.
Speaker 1: Are these are these citizen responders? Are they trained on
Speaker 1: any level? Ken?
Speaker 5: Do you know?
Speaker 8: So?
Speaker 14: They're given some kind of bare bones training. I think
Speaker 14: the training was like six weeks total to cover a
Speaker 14: myriad of things. But one thing that they're not equipped
Speaker 14: to handle his defending themselves if they get into a
Speaker 14: rather violent situation. Yeah. Across the country, we hear all
Speaker 14: the time about officers that show up to a minor
Speaker 14: auto accident they get ambushed. I was gonna say, yeah,
Speaker 14: they no means to defend themselves.
Speaker 1: You quite often situations can devolve from the mundane to
Speaker 1: the violent. I mean, people can just kind of lose
Speaker 1: their wits on a moment's notice. So so these citizen
Speaker 1: responders are themselves maybe in peril. Uh, let me ask
Speaker 1: you this. Do they wear body cameras?
Speaker 2: Ken?
Speaker 3: No, of course not.
Speaker 14: Why would they need to do that. That's that's just
Speaker 14: reserved for the police.
Speaker 1: Do they have radios so they can call in for
Speaker 1: backup with more citizens to show up if there's a problem.
Speaker 14: Right exactly? And that's that's the other part of this.
Speaker 14: If they get into a situation with that they're ill
Speaker 14: equipped to handle and they come over screaming on the radio.
Speaker 14: Now you have the police that are going to be
Speaker 14: driving lights and sirens at high speech trying to get
Speaker 14: there to protect somebody that has no way to protect themselves,
Speaker 14: and it's only putting the police in even more danger.
Speaker 1: I guess I have to ask this sort of out loud.
Speaker 1: Did the city ever contemplate any of these problems when
Speaker 1: they shove this thing through? Do they consult with the
Speaker 1: police department? And I know this supplies to the firefighters,
Speaker 1: because the firefighters Union apparently is a little myfed about
Speaker 1: this as well.
Speaker 14: Well. I can only assume that they did not, or
Speaker 14: they just didn't care what the response was. But you're right,
Speaker 14: I mean, that's the same way the fire department's now
Speaker 14: following suit with the FFP and they're filing unfair labor
Speaker 14: practice themselves.
Speaker 1: Do you have any idea how much these citizen responders
Speaker 1: are paid?
Speaker 14: I looked at. I think their average salary is somewhere
Speaker 14: between sixty and ninety thousand a year.
Speaker 1: Holy crap, I mean that's you're in police wage territory,
Speaker 1: there are you not?
Speaker 14: Yeah, they're getting close in this. This is this is
Speaker 14: the biggest problem. Aside from the safety aspect. They're really
Speaker 14: not lightening the load for the police because they show
Speaker 14: up to an auto accident, they don't investigate it, and
Speaker 14: they look at the people that are involved and go, hey,
Speaker 14: just show up at the district. But here's the problem.
Speaker 14: So you have two people that are involved in an
Speaker 14: auto accident, they say, hey, just show up. You go
Speaker 14: to your local police district file report. They're only telling
Speaker 14: one person that they need to go, which, of course,
Speaker 14: then only one person shows up and you only got
Speaker 14: one side of the story. You don't have the other
Speaker 14: person's information. But let me just say for a second
Speaker 14: that they actually tell both people to go to a
Speaker 14: police district. And you have one person that lives on
Speaker 14: the west side, they go to District three. You have
Speaker 14: a person that lives on the east side and they
Speaker 14: go to District two. How do you merge those police reports?
Speaker 14: And the answer is you can't. Well so you have
Speaker 14: two different police reports going on, and you know the same,
Speaker 14: the facts are different. It's an absolute disservice to the
Speaker 14: people that live, work, and play in Cincinnati that they
Speaker 14: have to even deal with this kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Well do they issue citations.
Speaker 14: No, they don't even investigate the crash. They just show
Speaker 14: up and say.
Speaker 1: That's a pretty valuable piece of information for someone who's
Speaker 1: gonna make an insurance claim that guy hit me, he
Speaker 1: owes me and needs to pay me back for my
Speaker 1: out of pocket responsibilities under my autobile insurance. Or if
Speaker 1: you don't have any for the damage done by the accident,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, my neck hurts, I've got medical bills. Now,
Speaker 1: all these things become critical questions in an automobile accident,
Speaker 1: even if it doesn't evolve into violence, and they're not
Speaker 1: in a position to issue a citation or make a
Speaker 1: determination as the responsibility. Oh great, then you're never going
Speaker 1: to get one. Sure, this is the most ill conceited Well,
Speaker 1: I can't say I've ever heard of, because we all
Speaker 1: know things from government. We can go down and spend
Speaker 1: hours and hours talking about stupidity, you know, and I
Speaker 1: guess one of them is going to get hurt someday too,
Speaker 1: and that's going to be a real problem.
Speaker 14: There's no doubt. Yeah, that's so me looking at it
Speaker 14: from the human side of this. You're notwithstanding the legal side.
Speaker 14: They're going to get somebody hurt. They're going to get
Speaker 14: somebody killed, whether it's a citizen, whether it's one of
Speaker 14: these community responders. And that's just something that it's going
Speaker 14: to happen. It's inevitable.
Speaker 1: That's a shame. Now where is it in terms of
Speaker 1: I know you sent a season desist order to stop
Speaker 1: this program from going through. It went through anyway. I
Speaker 1: guess they're actively using this program right now.
Speaker 14: It's correct.
Speaker 1: So what's the next step for the union for the
Speaker 1: Police and Firefighters Union in this process?
Speaker 14: So we filed the unfair labor practice with the State
Speaker 14: Employment Relations Board. They've investigated it and they've ordered us
Speaker 14: to go to mediation. So next month I'll be going
Speaker 14: up to Columbus and we'll be trying to mediate the situation.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, and if the mediation doesn't work, because
Speaker 1: you're not bound by any mediation unless you both mutually
Speaker 1: agreed to resolve it under the terms of the mediation,
Speaker 1: do you go to arbitration then, or do you end
Speaker 1: up in front of a judge.
Speaker 14: Well, to go back to the state Employment Relations Board
Speaker 14: for them to investigate further and decide how they want
Speaker 14: to get it resolved.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I hope they resolved to point out
Speaker 1: to the city, since saying this sounds like a really
Speaker 1: bad idea. Do you know where the funds came from
Speaker 1: to hire these people?
Speaker 14: This is just comes out of the city.
Speaker 1: The general fund. All right.
Speaker 14: They've got some really nice vehicles too.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, we can't get we can't get.
Speaker 14: New police cars, but they've got an electric Mustang. They've
Speaker 14: got some nice Chevy Silverados. And that's certainly a little
Speaker 14: bit of rub on the police as well as they
Speaker 14: are driving cars that have two hundred and fifty thousand
Speaker 14: miles on them and they're going but these people have
Speaker 14: brand new cars. That's kind of neat.
Speaker 1: Well, and do you know how many of them there
Speaker 1: are before we part company it?
Speaker 5: Ken?
Speaker 14: I think there's like a half dozen so far so far, Yeah,
Speaker 14: so far?
Speaker 1: Wow. Well, this just sounds like stupid all across it.
Speaker 1: And I hope for some reason this does violate the
Speaker 1: terms of your collective bargaining agreement so we can put
Speaker 1: it into this program and maybe save lives and also
Speaker 1: help people resolve their insurance claims during automobile accidents. Uh Ken,
Speaker 1: I feel for you, man, keep up the great work
Speaker 1: you're doing on behalf of the police department, and God
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Speaker 1: five KRC Morning Show House State Representative Jennifer Gross. Jennifer,
Speaker 1: it's always a pleasure talking with you. Thanks for being
Speaker 1: on the program this morning.
Speaker 15: Thank you, Ryan. Good morning.
Speaker 1: So the elected officials in Columbus, I always refer to
Speaker 1: them as like hurting cats. It seems to me that Republicans,
Speaker 1: you think Republicans would play nicer and cooperate more together,
Speaker 1: but sadly, we don't see a whole lot of that.
Speaker 1: It always just seems to be a mystery to me.
Speaker 1: But moving away from that, and I don't want to
Speaker 1: put opinions or conclusions into your head or mouth, but
Speaker 1: there are lawmakers are considering repealing the Medicaid expansion, a
Speaker 1: medicaid expansion which I suppose occurred back in twenty fourteen,
Speaker 1: and they're saying they need to do that. We don't
Speaker 1: have the money here in the state of Ohio unless
Speaker 1: the federal money that comes in in support of the
Speaker 1: medicaid program covers ninety percent of those that were at
Speaker 1: that enter the system under the expansion. Do I have
Speaker 1: that accurate?
Speaker 15: Well, that we want to get rid of it, maybe
Speaker 15: not accurate. The fact that the federal government pays ninety
Speaker 15: cents of every dollar for it. Absolutely, that's why it
Speaker 15: was so attractive when Kasik pressured the people who by
Speaker 15: and large did not want medicaid expansions.
Speaker 1: So, yes, you got that correct, And isn't is it
Speaker 1: medicaid or Medicare. That is one of the biggest line
Speaker 1: items in the state.
Speaker 15: Budget, Medicaid. So remember that Medicare is a federal program
Speaker 15: that were required to go on. And then Medicaid is
Speaker 15: an entitlement program, and that's what we call them because
Speaker 15: you are entitled to receive these benefits under traditional medicaid,
Speaker 15: you are entitled.
Speaker 8: So if you're.
Speaker 15: Blind, disabled, elderly, pregnant mom who is low income, pregnant
Speaker 15: mom and a low income child, that was traditional medicaid.
Speaker 15: And in fact, I'm the chair of the Medicaid Committee,
Speaker 15: So we're trying to protect our traditional medicaid group because
Speaker 15: I think as a society, that's the part that we
Speaker 15: pretty much as Ohioans, we believe those people will need
Speaker 15: to be protected, and so we're looking at that group
Speaker 15: to be sure that we try to maintain it's you know,
Speaker 15: we need to have like Civic Conda Civic Medicaid and
Speaker 15: not Cadillact Medicaid because what I see and what I'm
Speaker 15: noting is in some cases and those people on Medicaid
Speaker 15: may not always agree, but you and your private insurance
Speaker 15: probably are dealing with things that you that you do
Speaker 15: and wouldn't have to face on Medicaid. For instance, a
Speaker 15: child on Medicaid gets mental care and vision, so we
Speaker 15: don't offer that on a traditional medical plan through your
Speaker 15: traditional insurance, so and mental health through our medicaid. A
Speaker 15: lot of mental health providers try to get Medicaid because
Speaker 15: we reimburse higher than traditional medicine, and sometimes traditional medicine
Speaker 15: makes you pay cash for your psychiatric health or mental
Speaker 15: health care. So there's there are some good things about
Speaker 15: our medicaid system. The challenge, like any program, is you know,
Speaker 15: our number one expense on our SNAP, which is our
Speaker 15: food stamp program, is soda pop. So the challenge is
Speaker 15: what's required, right, like what is compassionate, what is loving?
Speaker 15: What is and is what's compassionate to the taxpayer. Also,
Speaker 15: we have to not throw out compassion to the medicaid
Speaker 15: population and then be uncompassionate or dispassionate to the person
Speaker 15: paying the bill, which is the middle class. I mean,
Speaker 15: you're earning eighty eight thousand family of four, which which
Speaker 15: is not high on the hog. You don't qualify for Medicaid,
Speaker 15: but you're paying all these benefits. So yeah, finding a
Speaker 15: balance is important.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: Prior to the expansion, I mean this group, the expanded group,
Speaker 1: in what way was it expanded? Were the income levels
Speaker 1: done away with? Or how do we end up with
Speaker 1: this many people getting on the program? I think what
Speaker 1: it jumped a sizeable percentage after the expansion went in.
Speaker 15: Well, it's a challenge because you either do it all
Speaker 15: or none. You can't do partial expansions. So the agreement
Speaker 15: was you expand and so the states said, well, gosh,
Speaker 15: we only have to pay ten cents, and the federal
Speaker 15: government's going to pay ninety cents, which you and I
Speaker 15: can have a long discussion about autonomy and sovereignty and
Speaker 15: why would we take you know, those golden handcuffs from
Speaker 15: the federal government. Right, but it was even under a
Speaker 15: Republican governor CASEIIC and in many cases the states that
Speaker 15: yeah and the people that are expanding are under government
Speaker 15: right now Republican governors. So but anyway, so they said
Speaker 15: they kind of lured us in with that. Then the
Speaker 15: population qualification is if you're earning one hundred and thirty
Speaker 15: three percent or less of poverty level, and you know,
Speaker 15: and so people got on the challenges. There are some
Speaker 15: and there aren't tall. There are a lot of people
Speaker 15: that are working that are making under the minimum, but
Speaker 15: there are a lot of really good jobs out there
Speaker 15: right now, and some people not all. I don't want
Speaker 15: to have a lot of hate mail to my box,
Speaker 15: but there are some people who purposely don't work above
Speaker 15: a limit because they don't want to lose their Medicaid benefits.
Speaker 15: And so we're looking at that. And right now you
Speaker 15: may have seen yesterday that the federal government is talking
Speaker 15: about cutting eight hundred and eighty billion dollars of Medicaid
Speaker 15: benefits from the sed They're not going to tell the
Speaker 15: states they have to, but what that means is you, Brian,
Speaker 15: get to pay the difference. So if the federal government
Speaker 15: stops spending ninety cents of the dollar, then ohilends will
Speaker 15: pick up another ten twenty thirty forty cents, which is
Speaker 15: a lot of money. That we call the people that
Speaker 15: were the expansion group eight. These are people that are
Speaker 15: not making enough money right now to qualify for healthcare.
Speaker 15: I mean to to not they're not making they're making
Speaker 15: as little money as possible to be able to qualify,
Speaker 15: and or they're working really hard and they can't make
Speaker 15: enough money to qualify for insurance.
Speaker 1: Okay, and I understand that component, but you know, if
Speaker 1: you add up all the government benefits that are available
Speaker 1: to someone, I think you have to make at least
Speaker 1: like forty thousand dollars a year to cover what the
Speaker 1: government will give you for free. So there's a real
Speaker 1: disincentive to work there. But we used to have, at
Speaker 1: least I thought we had in place work requirements that
Speaker 1: you know, you had to show some initiative in some
Speaker 1: effort to gain employment or go to continuing educlation classes
Speaker 1: or education classes so you could obtain employment. Is there
Speaker 1: anything remotely close to that now and are they considering
Speaker 1: something along those lines?
Speaker 15: Great question Brian. We had one that we had submitted
Speaker 15: right before Biden was chosen to be president, and what
Speaker 15: happened was the Biden administration stopped at So we have
Speaker 15: not had work requirements for the last four years. The
Speaker 15: legislature as well as the Medicaid the Ohio Department of
Speaker 15: Medicaid through buyer requirement of the legislature will filed for
Speaker 15: a waiver. So that's the other thing that's really I
Speaker 15: think that I really want your listeners and you to hear,
Speaker 15: is that most of the changes we make to our
Speaker 15: medicaid system, a lot of them, we have to go
Speaker 15: back to the federal government because we've taken this money
Speaker 15: and asked their permission to do it. So those golden
Speaker 15: handcuffs came with you have to provide this, this and this,
Speaker 15: you must do this, this and this, and if we
Speaker 15: want to change anything, we have to go back to
Speaker 15: the federal government and say, pretty please, pretty please, can
Speaker 15: we change our program? And so that's what I've been asking,
Speaker 15: you know, my congressman and Warren Davidson, as well as
Speaker 15: our Senator Bernie Marino, and I haven't had the conversation
Speaker 15: with the newest Senator Houston, but that we need more
Speaker 15: flexibility at the state level to be able to manage
Speaker 15: our program locally. So we filed for work requirements in December.
Speaker 15: We said we are, we had the intent to file,
Speaker 15: and then when medicate. Oh and here's the beautiful thing.
Speaker 15: Think about this. So the legislature says we want a waiver,
Speaker 15: I the legislature have to go through the department chair
Speaker 15: and in that case it's the Ohio Department of Medicaid
Speaker 15: director have her right the waiver and she negotiates with
Speaker 15: the federal government. So I have an unelected bureaucrat negotiating
Speaker 15: with the federal government for what the legislature is saying
Speaker 15: needs to be done. Now, there's typically a fairly good
Speaker 15: back and forth and relationship there. But why we have
Speaker 15: to go through bureaucrats to get what we want right,
Speaker 15: And that's in everything. So if we change, for instance,
Speaker 15: we take soda out of the SNAP program, we have
Speaker 15: to go back to the federal government. We have to
Speaker 15: ask them we would like to remove this from our
Speaker 15: food program. You know, and I think people need to
Speaker 15: understand it's not just Jennifer Gross, chair of the first
Speaker 15: Ohio House Medicaid Committee in our history, she can do
Speaker 15: all this. No, I mean we can come up with
Speaker 15: ideas for that. But let me get back to you
Speaker 15: had asked me about some of these people the group
Speaker 15: aide are healthy, able bodied people that can work. These
Speaker 15: are not people that have disability. They're not blind, they're
Speaker 15: not elderly, they're not developmentally delayed teenagers. These are all
Speaker 15: people that are able bodied. So we have now submitted
Speaker 15: a work requirement for that group that is UH and
Speaker 15: it's changing right now. It's in a more state. But
Speaker 15: you have to work a minimum of twenty hours a week,
Speaker 15: or go to school twenty hours a week, or be
Speaker 15: taking care of an elderly parent twenty hours a week,
Speaker 15: and that has to be confirmed. And then I believe
Speaker 15: we also have a drug rehab component in there as well.
Speaker 15: A lot of our group bates do have, you know,
Speaker 15: addiction issues. So those people we won't be able to,
Speaker 15: you know, really work with as much.
Speaker 1: But you can get them into a program that might
Speaker 1: ultimately help them by helping them kick the addiction. It's
Speaker 1: a vehicle to get them clean. Jennifer, I want to
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Speaker 1: Seven twenty fifty five KRC detalk station by Thomas talking
Speaker 1: with the High State Representative Jennifer Gross, member of the
Speaker 1: Ohio Medicaid Committee. Reaching out through the securities process. You
Speaker 1: got to go through to ask the federal government for
Speaker 1: a waiver for a work requirement that seems just preposterous,
Speaker 1: but you explained it. It's there. You got to live
Speaker 1: with it. But at least you have an administration that's
Speaker 1: probably going to grant you the waiver that we're looking for, Jennifer,
Speaker 1: is that your expectation from the Trump administration.
Speaker 15: Absolutely, And in my third term in a term limited
Speaker 15: Ohio Legislature, let me tell you something, having lived under
Speaker 15: the Biden administration, I'm still getting used to this winning.
Speaker 15: They're like, what, like, they're probably not, I mean, Biden
Speaker 15: rejected it.
Speaker 11: This time.
Speaker 15: We expect they'll accept it. So our job is to
Speaker 15: make it strong, as strong as possible. We can always
Speaker 15: amend it if we go, oh, we should have done that,
Speaker 15: or we see Florida did this and we need to
Speaker 15: do that. But Brian, do you mind if I talk
Speaker 15: to you. I want the people to understand that are
Speaker 15: listening the cost of this program to them, the taxpayer.
Speaker 15: It's one thing to have people come to me. You
Speaker 15: can't take these people. And let's talk about how much
Speaker 15: of our budget goes to this program. Do you mind? No,
Speaker 15: so in state spending alone, when we don't add the
Speaker 15: thirty percent hear me, Well, approximately thirty percent of the
Speaker 15: Ohio budget comes from the federal government. So when people
Speaker 15: tell me our whole entire budget, okay, When people tell me, oh, well,
Speaker 15: you know, we need to go to the federal government,
Speaker 15: I'm like, okay, you. In order for Ohio to be sovereign,
Speaker 15: your legislature needs to stop having our handout saying we'll
Speaker 15: take the money from the federal government. Well, jin you know, California,
Speaker 15: I'll get it if we I don't care. I think
Speaker 15: we're Ohio and we should extract ourselves from dependence on
Speaker 15: the federal government. Having said that, when without our federal
Speaker 15: government spend, meaning without the part that the federal government
Speaker 15: puts into our budget. Medicaid is twenty approximately, don't quote
Speaker 15: me on all this twenty about twenty seven percent of
Speaker 15: our entire budget. When it's it's just our house, when
Speaker 15: it's just our state. Education is the number one cost
Speaker 15: in our state. Our constitution says we will educate children.
Speaker 15: Were a rare state that actually has that in our constitution,
Speaker 15: but it is the number one spend in the billions. Okay,
Speaker 15: So then if you add the federal part into medicaid,
Speaker 15: the expense of Medicaid in our whole entire operating budget
Speaker 15: is fifty point three percent. I have to ask yes,
Speaker 15: So I have to ask the listener. You know you're
Speaker 15: paying those taxes too, They're just coming from the federal government.
Speaker 15: Remember the government makes how much nothing? We make nothing.
Speaker 15: Our job is to spend your money wisely, which is
Speaker 15: why I don't mean to sound harsh, but we cannot
Speaker 15: give Cadillac care on Medicaid. That is not I and
Speaker 15: honestly unless you have concierge care and all of that.
Speaker 15: I don't think anybody in Ohio gets concierge care unless
Speaker 15: you're paying up and above and straw for those things.
Speaker 15: So I think it's important for the people to understand
Speaker 15: that the group eight, the healthy body people, when we extended,
Speaker 15: they're twenty five percent of our spend and this is
Speaker 15: forty seven billion dollars a year. So yeah, So I mean,
Speaker 15: let's talk about the money. It's easy to say, well, Jen,
Speaker 15: you can't make these people go back to work. Well,
Speaker 15: the business owners are crying for people. I have factories
Speaker 15: that will pay processing lines people. They'll start at twenty
Speaker 15: two to twenty three dollars an hour. If you earn
Speaker 15: that kind of money, twenty two dollars an hour, twenty
Speaker 15: dollars an hour, and you work forty hours a week, Brian,
Speaker 15: and you're married to someone who makes twenty twenty five,
Speaker 15: you don't qualify.
Speaker 1: For Medicaid, but you can get an Obamacare. You can
Speaker 1: get an Obamacare policy and get a tax deduction for
Speaker 1: it too, if you're in lower income levels for that. Well,
Speaker 1: real quick here, I know it's thinking. I got to
Speaker 1: ask you about fraud, waste, and abuse. My understanding is
Speaker 1: one of the worst states when it comes to spending
Speaker 1: and a misspending, I'll call it that generally in the program,
Speaker 1: Are you doing anything with your committee to get to
Speaker 1: the bottom of that and drill down, maybe we can
Speaker 1: find some savings on the money going out the door.
Speaker 15: We absolutely are our auditor Auditor Favor did an audit
Speaker 15: on Medicaid last year and he found when he pulled
Speaker 15: a sample of people on Medicaid that twenty six percent
Speaker 15: of the sample that we were paying Medicaid costs for
Speaker 15: don't live in Ohio.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 15: So when you find that kind of stuff, because we're
Speaker 15: a state that has something called self addest station. So
Speaker 15: I know you're an attorney, but what this means is
Speaker 15: that if you if I go in and you say
Speaker 15: are you on Medicaid? I can say, yep, Brian, I am.
Speaker 15: And yet I live in Westchester, and you know I
Speaker 15: won't say where I live. I live in a middle
Speaker 15: class home. And if I say I have Medicaid, they
Speaker 15: have to accept that. They don't confirm it. They don't
Speaker 15: confirm my address, they don't come from my income level,
Speaker 15: none of it. So now we are but we have
Speaker 15: to ask for waivers in some of these things. But
Speaker 15: we're going to do regular cross checks because and that's
Speaker 15: an answer to the auditor's audit. I mean, what more
Speaker 15: do I need to say to you? That our auditor
Speaker 15: found this and what I've found, and it's taken me
Speaker 15: And this is why, you know, term limits are not
Speaker 15: what everybody thinks they are. It takes us a while
Speaker 15: to figure all of this out, and then in eight
Speaker 15: years we're gone, but the bureaucrats stay, and so we
Speaker 15: get into this huge spend because the bureaucrats keep spending
Speaker 15: and I'm not there to be the doge over you know,
Speaker 15: this system. But what we found is that we found
Speaker 15: self attestation. We have self attestation in many areas of
Speaker 15: the hospitals. If someone walks in and they're you know,
Speaker 15: they have a big gash on their arm and they
Speaker 15: say they're medicaid and they bill it to medicaid, we
Speaker 15: have to pay simply because the person said they had medicaid.
Speaker 15: That self attestation. We have no cross check or we
Speaker 15: don't check lottery winning, we don't check, we don't check birthday,
Speaker 15: we don't you know.
Speaker 1: That's insane, that's absolutely insane, and that welcomes all kinds
Speaker 1: of fraud and that figure is mind boggling, mind boggling.
Speaker 1: All right, well, we have your commitment to get to
Speaker 1: the bottom of that and hopefully get some I can't
Speaker 1: believe you got apply for a waiver to get rid
Speaker 1: of fraud, waste and abuse in a program. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's crazy right there, Jennifer Gross. Please keep us informed.
Speaker 1: You're always welcome here. You got updates. You need pressure
Speaker 1: to be brought to bear. I have my listeners get
Speaker 1: in touch with their elected officials and screaming, yell about it. Whatever,
Speaker 1: there's something we can do. Love to help you out
Speaker 1: with that one?
Speaker 15: Can I say, can I ask for help? So as doje.
Speaker 15: It takes people from our community and says, hey, let's help.
Speaker 15: Right they went to the federal government. I would encourage
Speaker 15: the listeners to go to www dot l SC, dot
Speaker 15: Ohio dot gov and look for HB ninety six. That's
Speaker 15: the number of the budget and look up what we
Speaker 15: call the read books in whatever area they're interested in.
Speaker 15: It doesn't always have to be medicaid though, because it's
Speaker 15: so expensive. I would encourage them to go to education
Speaker 15: and medicate our biggest spends. But look in there, look
Speaker 15: at the details, try to figure it out. Send your recommendations,
Speaker 15: say we don't need that in our budget. Tell your representative,
Speaker 15: not always me unless I'm your representative. Tell your representative.
Speaker 15: I saw this, I want this removed. I saw this,
Speaker 15: I want this removed. A lot of people want more
Speaker 15: and more and more, but you're paying. So if you
Speaker 15: think that's valuable, then say so. But if you think
Speaker 15: it's waste, you need to go in. And if you
Speaker 15: want more information. Right, my colleagues will hate this, but
Speaker 15: if you want to try to get more information, write
Speaker 15: your representative and say I think I see a problem here.
Speaker 15: Can you help me? Because we are there. This is
Speaker 15: a four thousand page budget. We are a government of
Speaker 15: for and buy the people.
Speaker 1: We need more citizen watchdogs, and my listening audiences still
Speaker 1: with them, so I encourage them to heed your advice
Speaker 1: and help out by finding it and alerting your officials
Speaker 1: with maybe a pointed letter or phone call. Jennifer Gross,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for bringing this to every day's attention.
Speaker 1: I wish you all the best of luck in the
Speaker 1: world on behalf of the Ohio tax payers and the
Speaker 1: American taxpayers generally getting some success over these challenges. And again,
Speaker 1: keep us informed because I'll be curious to know how
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Speaker 1: You need to get these Trump tax cuts in place permanently,
Speaker 1: and I always have to observe why they put an
Speaker 1: end to them when they enact them just blows my mind.
Speaker 1: I just anyway, here we are with them expiring, and
Speaker 1: everybody's going to get hit. It's not just tax cuts
Speaker 1: for the rich, as the left keeps saying. This is
Speaker 1: really going to hit the middle class very hard.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 16: You know, Americans under the four years of Joe Biden
Speaker 16: and Kamala Harris with Biden saw their cost of living
Speaker 16: increased dramatically, Folks paying twelve to fifteen thousand dollars more
Speaker 16: than under the prior administration.
Speaker 8: And you know, so.
Speaker 16: Inflation's hitting folks hard. But if Congress fills to act,
Speaker 16: their tax bills are going to go up. On average,
Speaker 16: every America will pay fifteen hundred dollars more. Should the
Speaker 16: Trump tax cuts to twenty seventeen be allowed to expire
Speaker 16: at the end of this year, and so there you know,
Speaker 16: it's a one two punch Brian, from the inflationary you know,
Speaker 16: so called Hitten tax of out of control government spending,
Speaker 16: and then a very real visible tax when you file
Speaker 16: your tax bill between now in April fifteenth, should these
Speaker 16: expire on your tax bill, So it'll get you from
Speaker 16: both sides.
Speaker 5: If Congress doesn't act soon.
Speaker 1: Well by doing it through reconciliation, which seems to be
Speaker 1: the direction they're going to go, they don't need a
Speaker 1: sixty vote majority in the Senate. They can do it
Speaker 1: with a simple majority. I've seen different proposals going out there.
Speaker 1: There's one, you know, comprehensive all under one resolution proposal,
Speaker 1: and then there's the two steps solution. I think Donald
Speaker 1: Trump's in favor of the former. Do you Is that
Speaker 1: your understanding as well?
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 16: I think that's something that broke in the last twenty
Speaker 16: four to forty eight hours is you know, the President
Speaker 16: has said, let's go for the big, beautiful bill, and
Speaker 16: that's the you know, that's the beauty of the executive
Speaker 16: They can set that agenda and Donald Trump is more
Speaker 16: than happy, as you know we all know, to set
Speaker 16: his vision, set an agenda, and drive towards it and
Speaker 16: I think that, you know, it makes a lot of
Speaker 16: sense Congress. You've got a lot more numbers in Congress.
Speaker 16: It's a lot more work that Speaker Johnson's got to
Speaker 16: do to keep that conference together.
Speaker 5: He'll do it.
Speaker 16: But if we can get all this done together, it's
Speaker 16: what the American people want, and tax cuts are among
Speaker 16: the most important, at least and most importantly retaining the
Speaker 16: tax cuts that we have had since twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1: All right, let's pause. It went a little along with
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Speaker 1: Station KCD talk station Brian Thomas with Donovan and Neil
Speaker 1: for Americans for Prosperity talking about extending the Donald Trump
Speaker 1: tax cuts, the tax cuts and jobs at TCJA and Donovan,
Speaker 1: what about all the screams in Whaling and nash your teeth.
Speaker 1: People say, oh my god, we need to get more
Speaker 1: taxes into the government because they overspend and you know,
Speaker 1: the deficits getting bigger and bigger. That's called a spending problem.
Speaker 1: But it also ignores the reality that by lowering taxes,
Speaker 1: more tax revenue ends up flowing into government because we
Speaker 1: engage in more economic activity with the money we get
Speaker 1: to keep.
Speaker 8: That's absolutely right. That's that's what happened when we did.
Speaker 16: Every time we've cut taxes, the government has found a
Speaker 16: way has ended up with more money. Why because a
Speaker 16: couple of different things. One, compliance costs go down, right,
Speaker 16: and so folks are it's easier for them to actually
Speaker 16: pay what they owe the government, and the government gets
Speaker 16: you know, what it deserves. I suppose I still think
Speaker 16: it's too much, but they get it, and you know,
Speaker 16: so the compliance costs of filing taxes go down. You
Speaker 16: also see folks spending that money in other parts of
Speaker 16: the economy. Right, So we're not talking about eliminating all
Speaker 16: taxes here. We're not even talking about eliminating the federal
Speaker 16: income tax, although I'm a fan of that. We're just
Speaker 16: talking about making a little less burden some for folks
Speaker 16: so they can choose where to spend their money.
Speaker 5: Whereather than bureaucrats.
Speaker 16: Like the folks at USAID are at rest in peace
Speaker 16: now being able to spend that money on wacky projects
Speaker 16: around the world. It's real simple, it's real straightforward. It
Speaker 16: has a tangible impact on the livelihoods of working class
Speaker 16: Americans and Ohioans when government lowers those taxes and keeps
Speaker 16: those rates as low as possible.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, going back to I think what we
Speaker 1: can describe as our own worst enemies, a lot of
Speaker 1: the Republicans aren't in favor of cutting the amount of
Speaker 1: spending coming out of federal government. That's why I'm a
Speaker 1: worried about this reconciliation package because you know, not in
Speaker 1: my state. If you cut that, then my state's going
Speaker 1: to suffer. And it's like, well, it's time for some
Speaker 1: belt tightening, you.
Speaker 16: Know, No, absolutely, absolutely right, absolutely right, And I think
Speaker 16: part of that belt tightening is not feeding the beast
Speaker 16: anymore money, right, and getting keeping the tax rates low
Speaker 16: so that you know, we can we can then begin
Speaker 16: to have the conversation, although that's already happening with things
Speaker 16: like the DOGE and what Donald Trump is doing to
Speaker 16: get the executive branch back in back in line. But
Speaker 16: you can't you shouldn't be given that beast more money.
Speaker 16: DC doesn't need more of our hard earned money. And
Speaker 16: then we also need to be having the conversation about
Speaker 16: what Congress appropriates. Uh, it's two sides of the same coin, Brian, Uh,
Speaker 16: equally important.
Speaker 5: But we shouldn't we shouldn't let.
Speaker 16: The desire to get the deficit down keep us from
Speaker 16: allowing folks to retain more of their hard earned money
Speaker 16: by simply keeping the Trump tax cuts permanent.
Speaker 1: Right, And if they actually you know, if the tax
Speaker 1: cuts went up and that actually really effectively brought more
Speaker 1: money into government because the rates tire, which we just
Speaker 1: talked about, that it doesn't, then they need to stop
Speaker 1: spending and cut back the percentage amount of money they
Speaker 1: spend so that we can start dealing with the deficit
Speaker 1: rather than keep continuing to fund all these programs, which
Speaker 1: is what happens every time. You know, it's the only
Speaker 1: thing they tinker with is our tax rates, but they
Speaker 1: never tinker with their spending. Do you have any hope
Speaker 1: that this reconciliation bill can actually get through? Donovan?
Speaker 16: I think it has to get through or Republicans are
Speaker 16: going to lose control in Washington, the Democrats will be
Speaker 16: back in power, and I think we're going to you know,
Speaker 16: not only that, right, it's not only just about the
Speaker 16: political dynamics in Washington, but it's the future of our country.
Speaker 16: The reconciliation package is about retaining the tax cuts, it's
Speaker 16: about undoing the disastrous Green Energy New Deal policy out
Speaker 16: of the Biden Harris administration. And it's about getting this
Speaker 16: country funding border security for our border patrol agents so
Speaker 16: we can have a secure country. It's a lot more
Speaker 16: than just a recofiliation package.
Speaker 1: This is what.
Speaker 16: Folks campaigned on and made promises about to earn votes
Speaker 16: back in November.
Speaker 5: They need to get this done.
Speaker 16: And if we don't get it done sometime by the summer,
Speaker 16: it's going to be real hard to see it happen
Speaker 16: this Congress.
Speaker 1: Jeez, that is a frightening prospect. But the timing couldn't
Speaker 1: be better. With revelations coming from the Department of Governmental
Speaker 1: Efficiency about you know, ten million dollars for voluntary circumcisions
Speaker 1: and Mozambique. You know, you get enough stories like that
Speaker 1: circulating and they actually get traction on the internet and
Speaker 1: people start paying attention like wait a second, I'm working
Speaker 1: for what and demand it. Well, they take less money
Speaker 1: out of our pockets, so these programs necessarily have to
Speaker 1: go away, which should have been funded in the first place.
Speaker 1: Now you got a big event coming up February twenty six,
Speaker 1: next Thursday, at the farm. I understand you're buying dinner.
Speaker 16: Well, Americans for Prosperities buying dinner. I'll be there enjoying
Speaker 16: dinner with folks and talking about this.
Speaker 11: Topic, talking about tax cuts and jobs.
Speaker 16: I really excited to be there with folks, George Brenneman
Speaker 16: and the Restore Liberty crew talking about that. And I
Speaker 16: hear it's a good crowd. You've been a speaker there,
Speaker 16: do they get a good turnout?
Speaker 1: I haven't been over to the farm on the West
Speaker 1: Side for one of these events, so no, it's I'm
Speaker 1: about forty five minutes away where I live relative to
Speaker 1: the farm, and because I get up at two thirty
Speaker 1: in the morning, it really presents a challenge for me
Speaker 1: to actually speak at events like this, so I won't
Speaker 1: be able to be there. The door do open at
Speaker 1: five point thirty, and of course the food is from
Speaker 1: the farm. That's the West Side legend, Donovan. Everybody knows
Speaker 1: about the farm, and the meeting begins at seven pm.
Speaker 1: But they're going to be doing a live recording of
Speaker 1: the podcast during the dinner, so you'll be able to
Speaker 1: enjoy that and then talk about this with Americans for
Speaker 1: Prosperity again picking up the tab for your wonderful meal.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you doing that, Donovan. I'm sure you get
Speaker 1: a lot of people showing up for it, and they'll
Speaker 1: get to learn something, and then you'll have a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of citizen activists who can start pressuring their elected
Speaker 1: officials to get the job done.
Speaker 4: That's the idea.
Speaker 16: We'll get them, we'll get them fired up, we'll connect
Speaker 16: them with equipment, with the facts and information, and then
Speaker 16: we're gonna have some called action to get people doing
Speaker 16: making that push right there and then that evening wonderful.
Speaker 1: Just Trecker has got a link on my blog page
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Speaker 4: Wednesday?
Speaker 1: Wednesday the twenty sixth, I apologize. I think it's a
Speaker 1: Thursday over Wednesday evening again. Doors open at five point
Speaker 1: thirty Donovan. Good luck with the meeting and keep up
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Speaker 1: We're going to hear from Michael Wallace with a book
Speaker 1: A Rage to Conquer, Twelve Battles to change the course
Speaker 1: of Western History, right at the top of their news.
Speaker 1: In the meantime, Jay, I was hoping you were listening.
Speaker 1: Did you hear kan or the Representative Gross talking about
Speaker 1: medicaid here in Ohio?
Speaker 17: I listened to every word, man, and I want you
Speaker 17: and Joe to take a bow after you're done today.
Speaker 17: That was awesome. But what you guys can be proud
Speaker 17: about is that when she talked about Faber audited medicaid
Speaker 17: and found twenty six percent of the medicaid was outside Ohio.
Speaker 17: I'm thinking, is this the same Keith Favor that Brian
Speaker 17: Thomas had on like about a year ago, who came
Speaker 17: in and said, there's not really anything to see. It's
Speaker 17: not really fraud, it's just improper payments and it's just
Speaker 17: difficult in computer systems and blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: Remember you remember that, Oh?
Speaker 1: I remember like it was yesterday.
Speaker 5: I would love for you to play that again.
Speaker 17: I know you probably can't, but for the listening audience
Speaker 17: before we you know, shower a Keith Faber, the auditor
Speaker 17: was applause. I think you and your listening audience and
Speaker 17: guys like us. I think it's a testament that he
Speaker 17: wouldn't have got out his ass if it wasn't some
Speaker 17: pressure put on him to go figure this out. And
Speaker 17: it's amazing that that happened and.
Speaker 4: He never he never came back around. I didn't hear
Speaker 4: about it.
Speaker 17: In the news, so I'm glad they found it. But
Speaker 17: just like always in Ohio, twenty six percent of forty
Speaker 17: billion dollars a year is leaving Ohio and they're sitting
Speaker 17: there staring at it right now trying to figure out
Speaker 17: if they want to do ten billion a year.
Speaker 15: No.
Speaker 1: No, what she said that we need a waiver from
Speaker 1: the federal government to make any corrections or fixes to
Speaker 1: the Medicaid system here in Ohio. And now apparently it
Speaker 1: sounded like that was among them. So we in the
Speaker 1: prior administration they just raise their collective middle fingers and
Speaker 1: laugh at us for the waiver. At least now we
Speaker 1: stand a chance of actually getting something accomplished with the
Speaker 1: Trump administration. We can only pray for that.
Speaker 8: I agree.
Speaker 17: Now here's the other thing. Everybody's property taxes are going
Speaker 17: to do risk. Seventy percent of property tax is school
Speaker 17: is your school tax? Like, we could take that ten
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Speaker 17: that's going outside of Ohio. Y put that towards your
Speaker 17: school tax. That could cut everybody's property tax by about half.
Speaker 17: If my numbers are right.
Speaker 4: Listen, man, there.
Speaker 1: Is any relief, any relief unproperty tax would be welcome
Speaker 1: here in Ohio, even if it doesn't shave it by half.
Speaker 1: I would say, if it's a third, if it's a quarter,
Speaker 1: whatever we can do to give the property owners some relief,
Speaker 1: most notably the senior citizens living on fixed incomes who
Speaker 1: had no control over the fact that their house is
Speaker 1: tripled in value over the past couple of years. Those
Speaker 1: people need some really good relief. And just to know
Speaker 1: that this much money is going out, I would argue
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Speaker 1: go out of the state. That's an easy fix. Jay,
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I appreciate the compliments, and I'm
Speaker 1: glad you stay on this as well. Seven fifty six
Speaker 1: right now, A rage to conquer Twelve battles have changed
Speaker 1: the course of Western history. Michael Walsh, my next guest,
Speaker 1: after the news.
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Speaker 1: She has written quite a few books. Last Stand. You
Speaker 1: probably read quite a few of them. Author of Last Stands,
Speaker 1: more than fifteen other novels and nonfiction book, classical music
Speaker 1: critic for Time Magazine at one point received the two
Speaker 1: thousand and four American Book Awards Prize for Fiction for
Speaker 1: his gangster novel There's Another One You Can Read and
Speaker 1: All the Saints. He wrote popular comums from National Review,
Speaker 1: which he used under a pseudonym to put into the
Speaker 1: book Rules for Radical Conservatives. There's One for You, and
Speaker 1: his other books Devil's Pleasure and The Fiery Angel are
Speaker 1: examples of the enemy heroes and triumphs and struggles of
Speaker 1: Western civilization, which allows us to pivot over to the
Speaker 1: book we're talking about today. His new book, A Rage
Speaker 1: to Conquer Twelve Battles that changed the course of Western history.
Speaker 1: Michael Walsh, Welcome to the Morning Show. It's a real
Speaker 1: pleasure to have you on today.
Speaker 5: Thank you very much. Brian.
Speaker 1: So, there are a lot more than twelve battles, and
Speaker 1: I suppose a lot of them could have impacted Western history.
Speaker 1: First off, what interested you in this topic? And then
Speaker 1: how did you whittle all of the wars that have
Speaker 1: been waged by man over the years down to the
Speaker 1: twelve that you selected.
Speaker 5: Well, I've been very interested in military history my whole life.
Speaker 5: I was born actually on the Marine Corps base in
Speaker 5: Campellshire in North Carolina, and my father was a Marine
Speaker 5: officer who fought in Korea and elsewhere. So that's part
Speaker 5: of my upbringing. And as you mentioned, I read a
Speaker 5: book called Last Dance four years ago which was quite successful,
Speaker 5: and that examined why men fight when everything seems to
Speaker 5: be lost. But they don't cut and run. They fight.
Speaker 5: So this book is an outgrowth of that book, and
Speaker 5: I wanted to look at twelve battles and the command
Speaker 5: who led them to talk about masculinity again and talk
Speaker 5: about what it takes to be successful at what is
Speaker 5: unfortunately one of the most fundamental human endeavors there is,
Speaker 5: which is warfare.
Speaker 1: Now. I want to approach this sort of in reverse order,
Speaker 1: and we could start with the Trojan War and Achilles,
Speaker 1: which I'm very interested in talking with you about. But
Speaker 1: the last one, the most recent challenge, the Battle of
Speaker 1: nine to eleven and how it was ultimately lost by
Speaker 1: the United States. Would you put a little more flesh
Speaker 1: on the bones of that conclusion. I think I get
Speaker 1: your point, but that w was just my attention gravitated
Speaker 1: toward that considering it wasn't, you know, a traditional form
Speaker 1: of warfare unless you look at sort of maybe our
Speaker 1: invasion of Iraq.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, that's turned out to the most controversial part
Speaker 5: of the book. And I remember when an author writes
Speaker 5: a book, he's finished the text about a year it
Speaker 5: comes out. So it's not like blogging or anything. It's
Speaker 5: it's you have to consider this well in advance and
Speaker 5: try to figure out what readers are going to be
Speaker 5: interested in. But nine to eleven struck me as an
Speaker 5: example of a commander President Bush who didn't understand the
Speaker 5: rules of warfare and didn't have the stomach to fight
Speaker 5: the battle that needed to be fought, unlike all the
Speaker 5: other guys in the book, which include you mentioned Achilles,
Speaker 5: who's you know, quasi fictional, but obviously it's based on
Speaker 5: somebody real wayback when. But Caesar and Constantine the Great
Speaker 5: and General Patten and the other people I talked about,
Speaker 5: And so as a result, we didn't really believe that
Speaker 5: war was declared on us. And if you think we
Speaker 5: won the Battle of nine to eleven, go to the
Speaker 5: airport and see if the letters right.
Speaker 1: That's a great point, you know, behind all this, the
Speaker 1: whole idea of warfare though, Michael, I'm a profound constitutionalist,
Speaker 1: little l libertarian I but we end up launching missiles
Speaker 1: and dropping bombs and taking people out in foreign lands
Speaker 1: that we did against him. We have no declaration of war.
Speaker 1: And you know, with technology being pervasive, more and more
Speaker 1: foreign actors and folks that we might not consider friendly
Speaker 1: to us have that technology and could equally do the
Speaker 1: same thing to us that we're doing to them. Congress
Speaker 1: never declares war. You get an authorization, you use a
Speaker 1: military force to deal with nine to eleven, and it
Speaker 1: ends up lasting twenty plus years to serve as a
Speaker 1: justification for conflicts literally everywhere.
Speaker 5: Well, it's disgraceful. It's part of the forever war mindset,
Speaker 5: which is true of people at both parties, by the way,
Speaker 5: And if you don't think so, just look at one
Speaker 5: of the senators from South Carolina, John love Child, who
Speaker 5: never saw war. He personally didn't want to fight in,
Speaker 5: but didn't want somebody else to fight in. The fact
Speaker 5: is that we got more declared on us, and we
Speaker 5: simply refused to accept. So this event happened, and then
Speaker 5: we refused to address the issue, and we went to
Speaker 5: other countries which had little or nothing to do with it.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 5: Cut to twenty some years later, and we even immediately
Speaker 5: pull out of Afghanistan. It was a disgrace. And that's
Speaker 5: what I said in the book.
Speaker 1: Well, I think you're probably in good company with my
Speaker 1: listening audience on those conclusions, sir. Now back to Achilles again.
Speaker 1: One of the reasons I was drawn to that is
Speaker 1: because there is a lot of fictional element associated with Achilles,
Speaker 1: like the Achilles Heel story. But what was his importance?
Speaker 1: Is it? Ilium?
Speaker 5: Yes? Yeah, said Troy. Yeah. The Iliad, which is one
Speaker 5: of the foundational great poem along with the Odyssey of
Speaker 5: Western Culture, talks about something that we now know happened.
Speaker 5: We're not sure to what a stenate did, and Homer
Speaker 5: comes down to us himself as a semi mystical figure.
Speaker 5: But something happened there. But what's great about the earli end,
Speaker 5: First of all, it's a great, great work of art,
Speaker 5: and secondly, it does describe in graphic and gruesome detail
Speaker 5: how warfare was conducted around roughly one thousand BC uh
Speaker 5: and that is the beginning of the West's first clash
Speaker 5: with the East. So the obviously the Greeks were on
Speaker 5: the western side of this divide, and the Trojans Troy
Speaker 5: is now and where western Turkey is they were the east.
Speaker 5: And this is a theme that runs throughout Western history.
Speaker 5: Alexander's fight, Alexander's fighting the Persians. There's this constant battle
Speaker 5: within Rome against the Parthians, who are also sort of
Speaker 5: Quasei Persians. It was is one of the threads of
Speaker 5: the book. But you have to start with the very
Speaker 5: first war story and that's.
Speaker 1: It understood, and fast forward over to the Crusades, the
Speaker 1: first Cruquete Crusades Bohemond.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, no one has heard of Beaulamonte except for.
Speaker 1: The first time, sir. This is it man. I've just
Speaker 1: been introduced to Bauhemont.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, he's an amazing figure and he is the
Speaker 5: hero of this particular chapter because he won two critical
Speaker 5: battles in the first Crusade, which was recalled by the
Speaker 5: Pulpe in response to the Byzantine Emperor, the emperor of
Speaker 5: the eastern part of the old Roman Emperor Empire, to
Speaker 5: liberate the holy sites of Christianity. So this was in
Speaker 5: the very late eleventh century, and Beauma was a great,
Speaker 5: big Norman. The Normans had just conquered England like thirty
Speaker 5: years before, and many of the Normans joined the Crusade
Speaker 5: and went to the Holy Land to fight. And Beaumont
Speaker 5: himself was a Norman from southern had conquered the lower
Speaker 5: part of Italy and Sicily and ruled it for many,
Speaker 5: many years. So Vaumont led his troops and he was
Speaker 5: a giant of a man. He was a tactical genius
Speaker 5: and was able to stave off defeat in the very
Speaker 5: first battle the Crusaders fought against the Turks, and he
Speaker 5: was able to win and keep the whole the siege
Speaker 5: of Antioch and caused that city, which was crucial to
Speaker 5: the path to Jerusalem, which he then took for himself,
Speaker 5: and he kind of drops out of the crusading narrative.
Speaker 5: But in two places he really stepped up and shows
Speaker 5: the superiority of Western arms and also the size that
Speaker 5: the Franks were much bigger than the Turks, and they
Speaker 5: had a problem. The Turks were very mobile, kind of
Speaker 5: like American Indians against the cowboys or the cavalry in
Speaker 5: the American West that come in, shoot run away, come
Speaker 5: in and shoot runaway. The crusaders were frustrated they could
Speaker 5: ever get their hands on them. Well, Bowman finally did
Speaker 5: and fended off this ambush. They could have ended the
Speaker 5: crusade at a little place called Dora Lam and then
Speaker 5: regrouped and they marched all the way to Antioch and
Speaker 5: in a brilliant siege, took Antioch against vastly, vastly superior numbers.
Speaker 1: Now, in terms of the crusades, you said, the Pope
Speaker 1: issued this, you know request, and everybody needs to go
Speaker 1: there to help out. And I understand this was was
Speaker 1: it largely viewed by people as a legitimate, you know,
Speaker 1: calling from God like that this this was a necessary
Speaker 1: religious thing to do, because you know, over the years,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of speculation that well, now there's just
Speaker 1: a bunch of Europeans that wanted to go plunder and
Speaker 1: look for treasure as opposed to liberate the country.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well there's an answer for that, which is, but
Speaker 5: the first crusade was successful, most of them went home.
Speaker 5: They didn't stay. Himself was a Lackland who took part
Speaker 5: of the turf that was conquered, and so did the
Speaker 5: but most of them went home. And a point I
Speaker 5: make over and over again in the book is that
Speaker 5: almost all these wars have some religious component, and from
Speaker 5: the earliest time, success in war was contributed to your God,
Speaker 5: and failure meant that you had not lived up to
Speaker 5: the demands of your God. You hadn't prayed hard enough,
Speaker 5: sacrificed hard enough, you had you lost because of insufficient fidelity.
Speaker 5: This is a constant theme throughout Western history. It's very
Speaker 5: very interesting.
Speaker 1: And it makes sense. You know, if you believe in
Speaker 1: a supreme power and you're beholden to them, and you
Speaker 1: actually have a belief system that involves you know, God
Speaker 1: and acts of God, then yeah, you're going to step
Speaker 1: up to the play because basically your soul is contingent
Speaker 1: upon it. Where you're going to end up in the afterlife, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well you also got a complete remission of sins
Speaker 5: if you went on the cruise. That was part of
Speaker 5: the deal. And also what's interesting is the Church guaranteed
Speaker 5: your property because the Church was the only power, you know,
Speaker 5: the Roman Empire having fallen five hundred years earlier, six
Speaker 5: hundred years earlier. Uh, And you were immune from lawsuits.
Speaker 5: And there was there was a bunch of upside. A
Speaker 5: lot of them died on the route trip France and
Speaker 5: what's now Germany, uh, all the way to the east
Speaker 5: to the eastern edge of the Mediterranean. But there were
Speaker 5: some some bennies, shall we say, uh with it, But
Speaker 5: I would say it was mostly fueled by religious ardor.
Speaker 5: And that was true with the Muslim side too. They
Speaker 5: believed in the prophet. They were they were undefeated up
Speaker 5: to that point. They had never encountered any opposition that
Speaker 5: stood up. They rolled through the remnants of the Roman Empire,
Speaker 5: they rolled over Persia, conquered Iran, Islami sized Iran. They
Speaker 5: were they were used to success. And the first time
Speaker 5: they came up against the Franks and got walked, and
Speaker 5: they were it taught them something to and and this
Speaker 5: war now that particular war has been going on for
Speaker 5: a thousand plus, that's the Israel Goaza conflict. That's where
Speaker 5: that starts.
Speaker 1: It's amazing that that has been raging for that long.
Speaker 1: And you did bring up the travel I was going
Speaker 1: to ask you about that in terms of the the
Speaker 1: the crusades, that that distance in the time it would
Speaker 1: take to get from point A to point B to
Speaker 1: fight and then come back home. I'm just I suppose
Speaker 1: that we're still under a feudal system then, correct.
Speaker 5: Yeah, more or less. The kings of Europe had not
Speaker 5: really quite emerged yet. So what that's called the Princess
Speaker 5: Crusade because remember there's no France, there is no Germany
Speaker 5: right as we know it. So these were little princeling
Speaker 5: some of various little principalities around Europe that that got
Speaker 5: together and organized an army uh and they had specific
Speaker 5: leaders and they accomplished that. It's an amazing logistical feat
Speaker 5: when you stop to think about it, that they came
Speaker 5: all that way by land and sea, over terrible reign
Speaker 5: and lost a lot of their people, but they just
Speaker 5: kept going. And there were times they didn't want to go,
Speaker 5: but they felt they had to go. And so they
Speaker 5: seized upon any sign that God was with them, most
Speaker 5: famously at Antioch, where they were getting they were having
Speaker 5: a very hard time with the giant Turkish army, and
Speaker 5: then one of them discovered what he purported to be
Speaker 5: the holy the tip of the Holy spear that had
Speaker 5: pierced Christ's side at the time of the crucifixion, and
Speaker 5: using this rusty piece of iron, they went into battle
Speaker 5: holding it up and won. So actually they thought God
Speaker 5: was on their side at that point. The crusader motto
Speaker 5: was deuslovl God wills it, and they would shout at
Speaker 5: us they would move into battle.
Speaker 1: Fascinating stuff. Fascinating stuff, Michael Walsh, the name of the
Speaker 1: book A Rage to conquer twelve battles that changed the
Speaker 1: course of Western history. Michael, what we've done for you
Speaker 1: and for my listener's problem, primarily because they're going to
Speaker 1: want to ge copy of the book. It's on my
Speaker 1: blog page at fifty five care see dot com. My
Speaker 1: listeners know where to go and get a copy of
Speaker 1: the book. There's a link to to where to buy it,
Speaker 1: and it's well received on Amazon and if a fascinating
Speaker 1: range of topics, again from the Trojan War all the
Speaker 1: way through nine to eleven. I appreciate you talking with
Speaker 1: my listeners and me today Michael, and spending some time here,
Speaker 1: and thanks for writing the book and documenting this important history.
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Speaker 1: latest on this Delta Toronto crash. I finally got to
Speaker 1: see the video of that and what the hell happened.
Speaker 1: I was just wondering all day long when it first
Speaker 1: was reported and I saw photographs of the plane on
Speaker 1: its back, I'm like, how in the hell did it
Speaker 1: get on its back? But when you watch the video,
Speaker 1: you see that was it the wind. I know there's
Speaker 1: some speculation it was like a wind shear coming across
Speaker 1: the from the west side and the plane was what
Speaker 1: landing south to north, north to south. I don't know.
Speaker 5: You explained it.
Speaker 3: Well, the first thing I look at anytime we've got
Speaker 3: a situation like this is the weather. Did the weather
Speaker 3: perhaps have a contributing contribute to whatever took place? And
Speaker 3: here we were dealing with crosswinds thirty to forty miles
Speaker 3: an hour, which aircraft can handle. It's a bit problematic,
Speaker 3: but nothing that today's flight cruise can't handle. They normally
Speaker 3: increase their approach speed just a bit to offset what
Speaker 3: they're going to be dealing with on the crosswind, and
Speaker 3: they go through the normal the process. I saw the video, though,
Speaker 3: and it shocked me because I'm thinking, Okay, I understand
Speaker 3: you have a slightly increased speed on arrival, but the
Speaker 3: angle that the aircraft comes into the runway and the
Speaker 3: speed on which it comes in. Matthew Buckley, who was
Speaker 3: a fighter pilot, I heard him quoted on a news
Speaker 3: feed this week. He said that was an aircraft carrier landing,
Speaker 3: and I thought that was the perfect way to phrase it,
Speaker 3: because typically when an aircraft comes in right before you
Speaker 3: have the touchdown, what the crew tends to do is
Speaker 3: to pull the nose up just a bit. They flared up,
Speaker 3: so just like you remember the space shield of the landing,
Speaker 3: the rear gears come down first, and then slowly the
Speaker 3: front rotates down to where the landing gear touches down.
Speaker 3: Here all three seemed to almost hit the same time
Speaker 3: and at such a speed that it looked like the
Speaker 3: force of that could have caused and I'm not sure
Speaker 3: because the investigation is just beginning, the right rear landing
Speaker 3: gear to collapse. So once you have the right landing
Speaker 3: gear collapse, everything shifts to the right.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: You then have the wing that comes ripped off of
Speaker 3: the aircraft. It may have been the landing gear helped
Speaker 3: to take the wing off, we don't know. And then
Speaker 3: you've still have the left wing that's on the aircraft
Speaker 3: that's still doing what it's supposed to be doing. Fine.
Speaker 3: So what happens was abs in a white a right wing.
Speaker 3: You now see the aircraft turn, it pivots up and
Speaker 3: comes around to where it's on its top. Now, one
Speaker 3: of the things I'm glad for it is that the
Speaker 3: fuel that was in the right wing was detached and
Speaker 3: was trailing the fuselage. That was a mirror, definitely a
Speaker 3: miracle there because you had jet fuel aviations gone everywhere,
Speaker 3: and that part that was on fire, and of course
Speaker 3: there's always the fear of explosion, and it was separated
Speaker 3: from the aircraft, which was good, and the entire interior
Speaker 3: of the aircraft did exactly what it should have. The
Speaker 3: fuselage remained intact. The seats which have been totally and
Speaker 3: completely upgraded over the decades, which now I think they're
Speaker 3: rated for sixteen g's of force, they didn't go anywhere.
Speaker 3: You had everybody hopefully strapped in as they should have been.
Speaker 3: You have fire retardant materials inside the aircraft again, because
Speaker 3: we've learned over the years and we've made things safer
Speaker 3: that air aircraft, and that accident was probably the poster
Speaker 3: child for everything that the NTSB has been able to
Speaker 3: do over the last thirty forty years and constantly learning
Speaker 3: from every accident in their accident, so every aspect of
Speaker 3: aircraft aviation we can make safer. And then of course
Speaker 3: you had the flight attendants do an incredible job getting
Speaker 3: people out of the aircraft. Remember, the easiest thing to
Speaker 3: do is to throw open that door to get everybody out.
Speaker 3: The problem is you're inverted, so had they not remembered
Speaker 3: to disengage the emergency slides, you open that door and
Speaker 3: all they're going to do is drop again. These flight attendants,
Speaker 3: I cannot brag on their training enough. You've got all
Speaker 3: of this going on. It was happening in seconds. They're
Speaker 3: getting everybody off the aircraft and they did their typical
Speaker 3: great job, and you know, it reminded me because they're
Speaker 3: calling this a miracle in Toronto. It was twenty years
Speaker 3: ago we had a miracle in Toronto and Air France
Speaker 3: flight comes in lands Long, hits hard. Kind of a
Speaker 3: similar situation here, playing breaks up, heart catches on fire,
Speaker 3: three hundred nine people on board, the plane's about to explode.
Speaker 3: Now to board three hundred and nine people, it takes
Speaker 3: you forty five minutes or so. Yeah, the flight attendant's
Speaker 3: got everybody off in less than ninety seconds. Airplane blows up,
Speaker 3: no fatalities. You look at the images of Air France
Speaker 3: three point fifty eight a Google image, and aircraft is
Speaker 3: completely burnt, totally, it's gone, and you're thinking, good lord,
Speaker 3: did anybody survive? Everyone survived. The flight attendants did a
Speaker 3: great job, you know, and we know that because of
Speaker 3: all the people who felt compelled before they got out
Speaker 3: of the aircraft to video everything that was going on,
Speaker 3: because look, I'm upside down, the airplane may be on fire.
Speaker 3: Of course I'm going to video what's going on now.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get my butt off that airplane. But some
Speaker 3: people thought videoing it was I might get alike here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do that, then go and then change my underwear. Honestly,
Speaker 1: Oh my.
Speaker 3: Lord, it's just these people. I just you know, people die.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get next to a buffalo. I'm gonna lead
Speaker 3: off this cliff.
Speaker 1: It just well, we refer to that as you know,
Speaker 1: the the Darwin theory of evolution, your survival of the fittest.
Speaker 1: We'll bring Jay back. We got several more things to
Speaker 1: talk about with our heart media aviation expert Jay RATHP.
Speaker 1: We're going to do that.
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Speaker 1: It's Thursday. It's I heard media avation expert Jay Ratlift.
Speaker 1: Time and Jay have pivoting over to Trump and his
Speaker 1: firing of FAA employees, and everyone seems to want to
Speaker 1: blame him for every airplane disaster it's out there. When
Speaker 1: Donald Trump wasn't around, it didn't have anything to do
Speaker 1: with it, but he didn't get rid of some FAA
Speaker 1: employees and apparently looking to upgrade the FAA flight system
Speaker 1: because what it's it's it's a legacy system from like
Speaker 1: the nineteen fifties or something.
Speaker 3: Right, Oh, you're being kind, but yes, at least the
Speaker 3: nineteen fifties. And you and I've talked about the need
Speaker 3: for upgrading that system. Incredible to use the word upgrade
Speaker 3: is an insult to the word upgrade. It's just it
Speaker 3: needs to be blown up and redone. So if President
Speaker 3: Trump can bring in the SpaceX people that can land
Speaker 3: a rocket, I think that they can figure out a
Speaker 3: way to upgrade significantly what we have with the air
Speaker 3: traffic control system. And I'm incredibly excited because of all
Speaker 3: the presidents we've had for the last twenty thirty forty years,
Speaker 3: you've heard many of them talk about the need for
Speaker 3: devoting the necessary resources and to get things improved as
Speaker 3: much as possible. At the Federal Aviation Administration, rarely does
Speaker 3: it happen. Now, we've had a few projects next gen
Speaker 3: the tracking system that has been so decades behind schedule,
Speaker 3: so far over costs, it's been ridiculous. But the idea
Speaker 3: of getting this kind of attention now thrills me because
Speaker 3: if they can attack it like the Manhattan Project, knock
Speaker 3: it out in two or three years, and come out
Speaker 3: with something that's state of the art. It means that
Speaker 3: even if we have air traffic controllers that are working
Speaker 3: shorthanded as we are across the country, let's at least
Speaker 3: give them the state of the art technology. Let's make
Speaker 3: it as easy on them as we can to do
Speaker 3: their jobs, which of course is just going to make
Speaker 3: everything that much more safe. And of course, when Donald
Speaker 3: Trump comes out and fires four hundred or three hundred
Speaker 3: people from the FAA, that's what everybody's screaming about. And
Speaker 3: you know, they asked the Delta CEO at Bastian this
Speaker 3: week I think it was yesterday about that very point,
Speaker 3: and he just shrugged it off. He said, look, about
Speaker 3: three or four hundred people. They were probationary employees, none
Speaker 3: of them air traffic control, none of them in a
Speaker 3: critical supports position. And yeah, it was just part of
Speaker 3: all the trimming that's taking place right now.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 3: I'll be the first to admit the opticts look horrible,
Speaker 3: but the bottom line is the idea that these were
Speaker 3: air traffic control rollers and individual No, they were probationary employees.
Speaker 3: A lot of them are being interviewed and you would
Speaker 3: think they were the head of the FAA, but that's
Speaker 3: not the case. So what we have as as far
Speaker 3: as the situation here is if we can get everything
Speaker 3: upgraded and we can devote more time in getting a
Speaker 3: non DEI approach to air traffic controllers, I think we're
Speaker 3: going to be in good shape. Because it was a
Speaker 3: number of years ago the FAA wanted to be more inclusive.
Speaker 3: Nothing wrong with that, but they significantly lowered the standards
Speaker 3: for us bringing in individuals from a qualification standpoint, and
Speaker 3: that's where I have my issue. I don't care about
Speaker 3: anybody's whatever. I just want to make sure that they're
Speaker 3: the most qualified individual, male, female, whatever for that position.
Speaker 3: And as long as that's the focus, then that's great.
Speaker 3: I don't want to have a DEI policy like United
Speaker 3: wants for pilots where they want twenty percent of their
Speaker 3: pilots hired to be women or minorities. That's a great goal,
Speaker 3: but to have that stated that means you're going to
Speaker 3: say no to very qualified people to bring in less
Speaker 3: qualified people. And even though some will say, well, that's
Speaker 3: not a downgrade and safety because they're all qualified. Look,
Speaker 3: if I've got an attorney as fifty years experience versus
Speaker 3: one that's got ten years experience, I know which one
Speaker 3: I want to go with problems.
Speaker 1: You were right on that. All right, let's move over.
Speaker 1: There was another uh.
Speaker 3: Oh, and Brian, excuse me, I do have an attorney.
Speaker 8: Question for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Delta Airlines is coming out offering the people
Speaker 3: on the Toronto flight thirty thousand dollars, no strings attached,
Speaker 3: and the thought is it would not prevent you from
Speaker 3: further lawsuits or anything you want to do legally down
Speaker 3: the road. I want to trust Delta to do this,
Speaker 3: I really do, because it's such a nice gesture. But
Speaker 3: I would wonder, from your hat and your experience, what
Speaker 3: would you think about somebody taking that thirty thousand dollars
Speaker 3: from Delta.
Speaker 1: Well, if it didn't come with strings attached, because I
Speaker 1: would figure that they would have a well a settlement
Speaker 1: agreement form pre prepared that by signing on the dotted
Speaker 1: line and accepting thirty thousand dollars, you agree to release
Speaker 1: and Delta from all further liability. But if they're just
Speaker 1: saying here, I don't know that can necessarily impact it.
Speaker 1: Accept at trial when you were asking for your damages
Speaker 1: and Delta's attorneys, if you have to go through the
Speaker 1: trial process, would say, well, it needs to be reduced.
Speaker 1: We did give you thirty thousand dollars, right, so you're
Speaker 1: part of your pain and suffering or your economic damages
Speaker 1: or whatever, it has already been reduced by that amount.
Speaker 1: So but since you're talking about, you know, theoretical numbers,
Speaker 1: like how much do you get for pain and suffering
Speaker 1: and emotional damage? What does that figure really even mean?
Speaker 1: So it's a random figure that a jury might award
Speaker 1: you that you're going to be reduced by a thirty
Speaker 1: thousand dollars amount of Okay whatever, Maybe the jury gave
Speaker 1: the guy thirty thousand dollars more than he really even needed.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's like out the idea that you would be comfortable with.
Speaker 3: It makes me feel better about it, because, you know, sadly,
Speaker 3: in my career, there were times I had to deal
Speaker 3: with individuals that survived plane crashes, some that were the
Speaker 3: sole survivors of commercial crashes. And I'm thrilled that everybody survived,
Speaker 3: but we would be remiss at not remembering that the
Speaker 3: emotional stress that these individuals went through is going to
Speaker 3: be something that for many of them, they're going to
Speaker 3: be living with and coping with for the rest.
Speaker 8: Of their life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like a decision to never fly again because I
Speaker 1: almost died. I can understand that a lot. Yeah, let's pause.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about the other mid air collision
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Speaker 1: with I heard mediavas expert Jay Ratliffe, And what's the
Speaker 1: story in the two planes that flew into each other? Jay?
Speaker 3: You know, anytime we have a general aviation accident, now
Speaker 3: it's gonna make frontline, Yeah, headlines. It normally doesn't. So sadly,
Speaker 3: we might have eight or ten people every week that
Speaker 3: die in general aviation accidents. So when we had these
Speaker 3: two planes collide in outside of Tucson now about twenty
Speaker 3: five miles outside of Tucson at a regional airport, it
Speaker 3: just raises everybody's concern overflying. But one of them was
Speaker 3: Assessena and those that have flown in Assessina knows the
Speaker 3: wings over your head, the blind spot is above you.
Speaker 3: And the other airplane involved was an aircraft that was
Speaker 3: a low wing, the kind you step onto the wing
Speaker 3: and then jump in to the end of the interior
Speaker 3: of the airplane where the blind spot is underneath. And Brian,
Speaker 3: we had a situation here in Cincinnati a number of
Speaker 3: years ago and We've had them around the country where
Speaker 3: you have this type of scenario where the cessana can't
Speaker 3: see above it and the other airplane can't see below it,
Speaker 3: and there's times that they occupy the same airspace collide
Speaker 3: and sometimes fatalities occur, and I suspect that's what probably
Speaker 3: happened here. They do not have an air traffic control
Speaker 3: tower at this Minera Regional Airport. They've been approved for one,
Speaker 3: but they're five years behind. COVID really set them back.
Speaker 3: So you had pilots that were in essence talking to
Speaker 3: everyone as they were doing what they were doing. And
Speaker 3: you know, again, we just had two airplanes that were
Speaker 3: in the wrong position here, at least one of them,
Speaker 3: and you know, the ntsb'll find out why. But remember,
Speaker 3: we'll have four or five, maybe six hundred fatalities every
Speaker 3: year on general aviation. So in the sixteen years we
Speaker 3: went without an accident here in the United States, commercially,
Speaker 3: there were probably seven to eight nine thousand fatalities on
Speaker 3: general aviation. So wow, it's a norm. So I'm just
Speaker 3: trying to keep things in proper perspective so people don't
Speaker 3: think we're having more planes. Swallow of this guy now
Speaker 3: than we've ever had, because that simply wouldn't be an
Speaker 3: accurate statement.
Speaker 1: Well, my dad had a pilot's license. He hadn't flown
Speaker 1: since I think before I was since I was before
Speaker 1: I was born, But he knew aviation and he knew
Speaker 1: the concepts and everything. Anyway, when they were in Alaska
Speaker 1: and doing one of those you know, flyover Alaska airplane
Speaker 1: kind of deals, and he called the pilot's attention to
Speaker 1: a very close aircraft, you know, said two o'clock, two o'clock,
Speaker 1: and maybe avoided a collision because they're just flying around
Speaker 1: doing sight seeing. Well, I think it was only a
Speaker 1: couple weeks later in the news, and it's the reason
Speaker 1: he brought the story up. Two of them flew into
Speaker 1: each other up there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yep, it happens, and it's happening less now because
Speaker 3: we have technology that continues to improve and a lot
Speaker 3: more of a situational awareness on the training side. But sadly,
Speaker 3: you have a lot of people that are pilots that
Speaker 3: are trying to increase the number of their flight hours
Speaker 3: so they can qualify to become commercial pilots. They're flying
Speaker 3: some of these smaller tour type airplanes and they don't
Speaker 3: have quite the experience that we would like him to have,
Speaker 3: and sadly, sometimes mistakes take place.
Speaker 1: All right, moving over to breaking wheelchairs, this is a thing.
Speaker 3: Well, airlines have made it a thing because over the
Speaker 3: last several years they have broken, loss, delayed all kinds
Speaker 3: of wheelchairs to the point that the Biden administration, lasts
Speaker 3: fall through the Department of Trainransportation came out with a
Speaker 3: ruling that said, look, airlines are responsible for the handling
Speaker 3: of wheelchairs and disabled passengers because Brian, when you have
Speaker 3: a situation where someone is unable to walk, they have
Speaker 3: to be carried on and off the aircraft, and the
Speaker 3: airline doesn't have an aisle chair, the smaller, narrow the
Speaker 3: thing you put a person on, getting them off their
Speaker 3: wheelchair in the jet bridge and then taking back to
Speaker 3: road ten or something. Some airlines don't have those at
Speaker 3: the gate like they're supposed to, even though they have
Speaker 3: advanced warning, and some passengers have been forced to crawl
Speaker 3: out of the airplane so they can be then placed
Speaker 3: into their wheelchair. So the Biden Administration, to their credit, said, look,
Speaker 3: when this type of thing's happened, it's an automatic violation
Speaker 3: of the Federal Air Carrier Access Act, which makes perfect sense.
Speaker 3: So the airlines were held to a higher standard. Well,
Speaker 3: now that we have a different administration, and now that
Speaker 3: they've already had a victory in court over the fee
Speaker 3: disclosures on reservations the airlines, for the lobbying group for
Speaker 3: the airlines or back in court representing five airlines who
Speaker 3: are challenging this thing. It's not exactly fair for us
Speaker 3: to have this kind of thing imposed on us, and
Speaker 3: they're looking for it to be thrown out the window.
Speaker 3: Now I suspect, and I really want to be wrong here,
Speaker 3: they're going to get their way and it's going to
Speaker 3: disappear because this is a very friendly airline friendly administration,
Speaker 3: as every other administration has been before. Other than for
Speaker 3: whatever the reason, the bid administration went after airlines unlike
Speaker 3: any that I've ever seen. In the last two years,
Speaker 3: airlines have been held accountable in ways that I love
Speaker 3: because finally they're being held to standards, not from a
Speaker 3: safety standpoint, but from a customer service standpoint, being forced
Speaker 3: to provide better service. So I'll keep an eye on
Speaker 3: this one and I'll let you know. But I suspect
Speaker 3: that surprise this one will probably be thrown out the
Speaker 3: window where airlines are no longer required to have specific
Speaker 3: requirements when they lose or damage wheelchair, many of which
Speaker 3: that are personally made. You just can't put somebody in
Speaker 3: a wheelchair that it's in a wheelchair because sometimes for
Speaker 3: medical reasons, the wheelchair they have this has to be
Speaker 3: specially designed. So to misplace one, lose one for ten, twelve,
Speaker 3: twenty four to thirty six hours, Yeah, puts that individual
Speaker 3: in incredible pain and suffering while they're waiting for the
Speaker 3: airline to get their act together to get the wheelchair
Speaker 3: that they have lost, which should be a priority you know,
Speaker 3: returned to the customer.
Speaker 1: Fair enough on that.
Speaker 3: And finally, how many times damage wants it gets there?
Speaker 1: Brian, I'm sorry to laugh about that, but that comes
Speaker 1: to shock.
Speaker 4: It's sad, it is it is.
Speaker 1: How about finally we end on hub delays.
Speaker 3: If you're flying today Salt Lake City, Philadelphia, d C.
Speaker 3: And Charlotte, looks like those hubs are gonna have weather
Speaker 3: delays that could approach an hour. Other than that to
Speaker 3: other places around the country, it should be a pretty.
Speaker 14: Goo da to fly.
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