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Speaker 1: And now for a moment of clarity.

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Speaker 2: His erotic behavior continues with troubling new attacks on the Pope.

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Last night, he name checked Pope Leo online pushing back

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against the Pontiff's criticism of the war, and rather than

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caution the president, the White House's resident Catholic JD. Vance,

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escalated those attacks, telling a crowd of young conservatives that

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Pope Leo should be quote careful when talking about theology.

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And here's how Speaker Mike Johnson, defending both Trump and Advance.

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Speaker 1: A pontiff or any religious leader can say anything they want,

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but obviously if you wade into political waters, I think

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you should expect some political response. It is a very

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well settled matter of a Christian theology. There's something called

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the just war doctrine. There's a time to every purpose

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under heaven.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what the hell that is, because when

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you go and look at the Catechism of the Roman

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Catholic Church that I can specifically cite for you, a

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mister speaker, section twenty three oh seven to twenty seven,

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twenty three seventeen, it lays out exactly the framing for

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a just war. And there's nothing about under heaven or

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anything like that. What it specifically refers to is the

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idea that this is a moral framework and this concept

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called use adbellum, which means right to go to war,

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and what it requires. All these things have to be met,

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and this is what the Pope has been trying to

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get it, folks to understand. Just cause typically self defense

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against aggression, legitimate authority declared by proper political authority Congress

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write intention not revenge, conquest or domination, last resort, all

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peaceful options are exhausted, probability of success not feudal bloodshed,

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and certainly proportionality expected good outweighs the harm. The other

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part is called in below, which means right conduct in war,

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and that speaks specifically to how you behave how you

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conduct the war. You must protect civilians, no intentional targeting,

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and proportionality force use must match the objective. Folks, this

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is not this war. This is why presidents in the

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past have gone before the American people to talk on

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touch on all these things, because that core thread that

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the speaker clearly doesn't understand as he refers to it.

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It's nice to use the two words, but you need

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to know what they mean. When they're put together.

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Speaker 1: Catch Michael Steele on the weeknight Monday through Friday at

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seven pm Eastern on ms now