Speaker 1: Beauty ful. Wow.
Speaker 2: Sorry right off the gate with that one. Uh.
Speaker 1: The final episode of Jeff Jeff's Our Adventure with a
Speaker 1: weird like are you gonna just do the whole podcasting voice?
Speaker 3: Jeff, No, No, I've thought about it, John, I just
Speaker 3: wanted to do it.
Speaker 2: No impulse control. I'm sorry, Like, no, the lemmings actually
Speaker 2: do that thing that you know, like I want to
Speaker 2: jump off cliffs and stuff. Where was that urban myth?
Speaker 1: Huh?
Speaker 2: You know how there's the game Lemmings. Well, there's an
Speaker 2: actual creature called a lemming.
Speaker 3: Yes, they like follow each that's the whole point. I
Speaker 3: think those creatures like our monkey see monkey, do creatures.
Speaker 2: Right, But they don't have a natural pachant for wanting
Speaker 2: to jump off a cliff.
Speaker 3: Like self agency. Yeah, they're just sort of like, well,
Speaker 3: Larry's doing it, I'm going to do it. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: guess I don't know.
Speaker 2: And yet, every and yet everyone calls coffeecats sheep and
Speaker 2: not lemmings. It makes you.
Speaker 1: Think, oh my god, you're so right.
Speaker 2: I think lemmons just have better pe o than sheep.
Speaker 1: I'm sick.
Speaker 2: I'm sick, guys.
Speaker 3: Keep all this a little a little.
Speaker 2: Hopped up on some cold meds right now, I've got
Speaker 2: a cup of tea, I've got a little heating pad.
Speaker 2: I've gone my old lady blanket.
Speaker 1: It's great, Oh man, I I so one of the
Speaker 1: recent additions to my home is a old Lady blanket
Speaker 1: on my l shaped couch. Yes, guys, I don't need
Speaker 1: old Lady where else? Ever?
Speaker 2: Do you know on that couch? You know how much
Speaker 2: I fall asleep on the couch. It's like nightly, daily,
Speaker 2: nightly and ever so rightly.
Speaker 3: Okay, does it smell? Does your old lady blankets smell?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: No, it's just a nice blanket.
Speaker 3: But it's like beat up. Can't an old lady blanket
Speaker 3: can't be like brand new?
Speaker 1: Okay. This is more like a faux wolf skin blanket.
Speaker 1: Very okay. And it's just it's just it's it's just
Speaker 1: heavenly and it's under that blanket. I recently watched the
Speaker 1: Cowboy Bebop movie because welcome to the final episode of
Speaker 1: Jeff Jeff's Bizarre Adventure to my left. One of the
Speaker 1: most anime animes teveror anime. It's Lucy James. Oh.
Speaker 2: I didn't think I was going to get that one.
Speaker 2: I thought that was for Jeff, but you know what,
Speaker 2: I will accept it. Thank you, my right.
Speaker 1: The most manga mine gets tever turn turn a page,
Speaker 1: it's t more.
Speaker 5: Hello. I moved my Discord window up, which is a
Speaker 5: mistake because now my neck hut and I'm looking on constantly.
Speaker 1: Great stuff to more and with you always once the students.
Speaker 1: Now the master. Though his anime journey has ended, his
Speaker 1: anime life is just beginning. Oah, it's Jeff Bickler.
Speaker 3: Thank you for that honestly beautiful introduction.
Speaker 5: John.
Speaker 3: It's true, folks, today is the last day I watch
Speaker 3: an anime for the entire rest of my life. I'm
Speaker 3: not allowed anymore because the podcast is ending, and.
Speaker 1: I feel like we are.
Speaker 5: I feel like we gave him a graduation just for
Speaker 5: the sake of it. There for convenience seems onearthed.
Speaker 3: It seems onearthed. The work to do, there's a lot
Speaker 3: of work to do. I watched the eclipse. We experience.
Speaker 3: I experienced the eclipse, I lived through it, and and
Speaker 3: now I have to face the rest of my life
Speaker 3: without ever watching an anime again. Even though while my
Speaker 3: son just completed the entire Bay Blades. I guess it's
Speaker 3: an anime A. Right, you know Blades on that on Netflix.
Speaker 3: He he just finished the entire series and he's all
Speaker 3: caught up on the on the bays and the and
Speaker 3: the attacks and the low attacks and the speed attacks.
Speaker 2: What's the what's the lore of Baye Blade?
Speaker 1: Oh, Lucy, I don't it's just just you just you
Speaker 1: just asked what's the law of Naruto or Bleach? I
Speaker 1: didn't know that.
Speaker 3: Here, I'll water it down for you.
Speaker 1: Loose.
Speaker 3: It's just a bunch of spinning tops.
Speaker 1: Well, that's accurate. That's not inaccurate. I've just okay, I
Speaker 1: I think I've talked on this podcast about my experiences
Speaker 1: in Babe Blade tournaments, right, I feel.
Speaker 2: Like you have because is that when we shared the
Speaker 2: time that we got really obsessed with blade.
Speaker 1: Wait, I think I think maybe that I think I
Speaker 1: had maybe followed a bay Blade TikToker at the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know. Oh well, Blades, a friend of mine got
Speaker 1: real into a bay Blade in the last year, and
Speaker 1: I've gone to him to a bay Blade tournaments and
Speaker 1: you know what, very positive vibes, very nice place.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean, I think any kind of like
Speaker 2: tournament vibe is always going to have like a fun
Speaker 2: a fun thing going on. I tried. I tried to
Speaker 2: play bay Blade in the office once. I just couldn't
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 5: I just once we had a stream of it, we
Speaker 5: played it.
Speaker 3: You got a lot of rip. What do you mean?
Speaker 2: Well, no, but I just I think I was overthinking
Speaker 2: it in my head. I was trying to work on
Speaker 2: angles and trajectory.
Speaker 4: Just luck.
Speaker 3: It's just luck, I know, I know. I hate to
Speaker 3: just water it down. I played for about an hour
Speaker 3: last night with my kid, and oh, you got to
Speaker 3: mix and match, and when you find like a good match.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, is there a bay Blade meta?
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, there there is. It goes. There's stamina blades,
Speaker 1: there's power blades and defense, right, and I think defense
Speaker 1: or balance, I think is the balance. And it's like
Speaker 1: a rock paper scissors for witch beat switch. But I
Speaker 1: also saw a bit of so video recently of an
Speaker 1: anime YouTuber uh fighting the world champion in bay Blade,
Speaker 1: and the anime YouTuber won.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's just flipping a coin, I guess. And
Speaker 3: huh that would that would make me rethink some things.
Speaker 2: That would destroy me if I would.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it can't be real. A tremendous amount of skill, right.
Speaker 1: So I can't. I can't. I want to reach out
Speaker 1: to this guy and find out what the deal was.
Speaker 1: But I think this skill in bay blade. There is
Speaker 1: skill in how you launch it, but I think the
Speaker 1: real skill is in the construction of a bay blade
Speaker 1: and how you balance, because like in the league that
Speaker 1: my friend competes in, there are like top players and
Speaker 1: our people who place high. I get it.
Speaker 3: And you can like mix and match and you can
Speaker 3: like start with like because the tops and there's three pieces,
Speaker 3: and like you can decide like which piece you want
Speaker 3: to go and be the sandwich and be the meat.
Speaker 1: You know, so you kind of.
Speaker 3: There's so so it's not like scizzoring going on there,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: It's not like the the bottom always has to be defense,
Speaker 2: in the middle always has to be this. You can
Speaker 2: swap the order.
Speaker 3: Sort of the order.
Speaker 1: There's a bass, Lucy, and the bass is always attack,
Speaker 1: stamina defense, and you kind of bach the rest of
Speaker 1: the bay blade around that, but it's still going to
Speaker 1: be a stamina bay blade or an attack baby blade.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, this is this is a lot to take it.
Speaker 3: It's a lot. We'll have Dylan's going to start his
Speaker 3: own podcast about bay blades, and then we'll bring you
Speaker 3: on as a guest and we'll get you.
Speaker 2: Actually, we've got some of we got some of the
Speaker 2: greatest work so video and podcast minds. Does he have
Speaker 2: a title yet? Does he need help work shopping?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 3: Not yet, it's still it's still he's still work shopping it.
Speaker 3: And he's still.
Speaker 2: A bay Blade podcast. Yeah, I mean, let it. Let
Speaker 2: it did a bay Blade The thing is is, you're
Speaker 2: going to have to put a bay Blade podcast in there.
Speaker 1: Dip and the bit beasts.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Okay, listen, I'm glad we're going up.
Speaker 3: John Luke, please bleep all of these amazing title suggestions
Speaker 3: out of fear that they could leak out into the
Speaker 3: world and someone scoop them up. I also want to
Speaker 3: take a second to thank John for all of their incredible.
Speaker 1: Workable format for these years and years of doing the show.
Speaker 3: Uh, John Luke, thank you so very much for all
Speaker 3: of your hard work. We know it is terrible having
Speaker 3: to listen to us.
Speaker 1: I could not imagine the worst fate, honestly, and John
Speaker 1: Luke tanked every episode somehow.
Speaker 3: Amazing amazing w John Luc you have a lot to
Speaker 3: be proud of. Yes, And I want everyone listening to
Speaker 3: this to know how crucially important John Luke's work is
Speaker 3: to this show and how it's how it has been
Speaker 3: so crucial all these years. So thank you, John Luc
Speaker 3: the best.
Speaker 5: Thank you John Luke.
Speaker 3: Now, John Luke, we have to pause for a cat emergency.
Speaker 3: But you are a professional and you've dealt with cat
Speaker 3: emergencies on podcasts.
Speaker 1: They're not even sweating this, not for us. Like the
Speaker 1: average editor would be quaking at their boots, draphic meltdown
Speaker 1: like this, they'd be pulling out of the wall. Yep,
Speaker 1: I bet, I bet, I bet John Luke's gonna like
Speaker 1: just kind of take the cigar out of their mouth
Speaker 1: for just like a single second back in and.
Speaker 2: They do it with it.
Speaker 1: You think you do it.
Speaker 2: With one button because they're so good. I have like
Speaker 2: short cuts up every.
Speaker 1: This is happening on like the kind of mini the
Speaker 1: mini keyboard, you know, over to their right.
Speaker 3: Not the right right, of course, you've got it, John.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's I saw. It's cool that you're helping
Speaker 1: out Abby whether a keyboard Jeff, oh you heard about that? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just interesting because I feel like I came to
Speaker 1: you while asking, oh yeah, what I get a link
Speaker 1: to a YouTube video? No, really, I.
Speaker 2: Just got a link. Well, John, hey, let's plow on
Speaker 2: this thread. When I asked for help with a keyboard,
Speaker 2: I got a link to a keyboard website to build
Speaker 2: my own. But the whole point was I didn't know
Speaker 2: what all the ship did, and that's why I was
Speaker 2: coming to my good friend Jeff.
Speaker 1: Lucy. What that is is basically someone telling you to
Speaker 1: go yourself right, like.
Speaker 2: W w W dot go fuck yourself dot com. I believe,
Speaker 2: and then I and then I eventually found one on
Speaker 2: Amazon because I was watching a bunch of TikTokers because
Speaker 2: that's where I had to get my information from from TikTok.
Speaker 2: But it seems pretty good, go for it. I don't,
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: Recall I have anything to say, uh that would fix this?
Speaker 5: Check this?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, great? What am I looking for?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: What are the parameters for a good keyboard? As tasks? Jeff?
Speaker 2: Mostly size and switch, link to a website and then
Speaker 2: link to a forum.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then and then and then so like so
Speaker 1: just a raw go fucus.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but also like linking.
Speaker 1: Linking to a form.
Speaker 2: Is like kind of an old school go fuck yourself, you.
Speaker 1: Know, No, it's a new school one. Listen, John Luke,
Speaker 1: I'm actually going to say leave all this in. I think,
Speaker 1: I think, I think so time to bring the curtain
Speaker 1: down on the kind of friend Jeff pretends to be.
Speaker 3: No the veneer, it's too much. No, listen, we can't.
Speaker 3: We must keep the secret alive. And well, no, no, I'm.
Speaker 1: Gonna say leave it all in. Just just leave all
Speaker 1: that in. And Lucy, Lucy, can you imagine the links
Speaker 1: and that we would both go to if Jeff ever
Speaker 1: came to us anything, anything, Oh my god, I would
Speaker 1: just just no matter what.
Speaker 3: Now we're just talking about me helping people with keyboards, right,
Speaker 3: I helped you time.
Speaker 1: Let me let me ask you complete hypothetical here. Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe you are a little lost on a subject, and
Speaker 1: you know that a friend is really really into that subject,
Speaker 1: to the point that sometimes maybe they talk about it excessively,
Speaker 1: like maybe they kind of drag down certain podcasts they're
Speaker 1: on by kind of just going of going over it
Speaker 1: too much, you know. But you decide that you're going
Speaker 1: to dip your toe into this interest, But you know,
Speaker 1: it's very overwhelming. There's a lot of options. You don't
Speaker 1: what you're doing. And you reach out to this friend
Speaker 1: and you're like, hey, I'm feeling a bit lost with this,
Speaker 1: maybe even a little lonely and a little scared, and
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. And they link you
Speaker 1: back a single like bullshit? How to article? Like you
Speaker 1: couldn't have fucking looked out up yourself? What kind of
Speaker 1: friendship is that?
Speaker 5: Time? It was not a good one.
Speaker 1: It's not a good last time.
Speaker 5: I feel like the last time a friend asked me
Speaker 5: to do that about an interest that they had, I
Speaker 5: started a podcast with them to help them work for it,
Speaker 5: you know. Yeah, and we've reached the end of that podcast,
Speaker 5: and I would hope that my friend would do the
Speaker 5: similar thing for me. You know, you think the extra
Speaker 5: dedicated three years of your experience.
Speaker 1: Yeah, who did that?
Speaker 3: He that?
Speaker 1: Unfortunately time we're talking about you.
Speaker 3: No, but wow, No, it's just varying degrees of success.
Speaker 3: I feel like I've had hip hop to me. I'm
Speaker 3: not gonna say that that's that's not that I don't
Speaker 3: I don't go around to me.
Speaker 5: I've got an independent website, I'm going to shove out
Speaker 5: anyone else anymore.
Speaker 3: Yeah, those are I didn't say that that who said that?
Speaker 3: Because I couldn't really keep truck there. Everyone's got problems.
Speaker 1: What do you want?
Speaker 3: I think?
Speaker 1: Anyway?
Speaker 3: You got you guys? Should I'm here for your keyboard support, Tam, But.
Speaker 1: No, good, I'm good. You have your help board now.
Speaker 3: Yeah I helped Tam. So that's one out of three.
Speaker 1: So like, I guess, just me and Lucy fucking chop
Speaker 1: Liver over here. Favorite when I say, hell, I love
Speaker 1: chop Liver. You sent me some stuff and that was it.
Speaker 1: So I appreciate you sending me build it for you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that was it. It was It was like the ingredients.
Speaker 1: Good luck. I have a new keyboard now, Jeff. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you, I fucking hate it. Do you really?
Speaker 1: I'm sad every day trying to We'll get you. We'll
Speaker 1: get You're so busy, don't you should never? I could
Speaker 1: never get your brand new time. Look at your brand
Speaker 1: new link. You'll be set. You'll be set.
Speaker 5: Did you buy a pre build one or did you
Speaker 5: build it yourself?
Speaker 1: Tim? I I will discuss this with you, Tim offline.
Speaker 1: But I am feeling so vulnerable from the rejection I
Speaker 1: have already faced in this situation that I could not
Speaker 1: possibly re engage with this conversation with Jeff Broud. I
Speaker 1: don't feel safely well understandable. Okay, So I hope I
Speaker 1: watched the right thing, folks, That's right. I hope.
Speaker 3: I'll you'll know when I start to participate.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay.
Speaker 2: I spent thirteen dollars Apple TV for this.
Speaker 3: Oh I don't think this was worth it was?
Speaker 1: Is it worse?
Speaker 2: I would say?
Speaker 1: I live to say the movie I I I recommended
Speaker 1: this movie thinking that we were going into like an
Speaker 1: all time great anime movie which I have not watched
Speaker 1: in about twenty years. And when I did watch it,
Speaker 1: I watched it in my initial like real cowboy Bebop
Speaker 1: love phase. And having watched it now, I think it's
Speaker 1: a cool movie, yes, but maybe not the masterpiece I thought.
Speaker 3: I think it's just a long sort of monster of
Speaker 3: the week guess.
Speaker 2: Yes, scenes and it's got fun vibes, but as a
Speaker 2: movie that comes together. Would not say it was particularly
Speaker 2: successful in that some cool steps.
Speaker 3: I so enjoyed cool set pieces. Yes, and it did
Speaker 3: all the cow the cool Cowboy bebop things that I
Speaker 3: want did it to do, especially in the beginning if
Speaker 3: I watched The Right Thing where where Spike and Jet
Speaker 3: are taking out a bunch of criminals at a at
Speaker 3: a comedian, yes, yes, okay, so I thought that, you
Speaker 3: know what, and like the second that started, I was
Speaker 3: just like, I was just like, man.
Speaker 1: A fucking off cowboy.
Speaker 3: There is that moment where you're like, yeah, you know
Speaker 3: the I think the plot to this thing is like
Speaker 3: not the strongest cowboy bebop sort of narrative. I did
Speaker 3: appreciate the fact that we didn't like have to sort
Speaker 3: of wade through some of the emotional baggage that the
Speaker 3: series sort of in my opinion kind of like dabbles
Speaker 3: a lot in and kind of fine.
Speaker 2: It didn't have emotional beats.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just didn't want to deal with all of
Speaker 3: like the trauma that Spike's carrying with him, like that
Speaker 3: didn't show its face at all. We got to see
Speaker 3: Edward and Iron and Faye, and I mean Fay was
Speaker 3: great in this.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I think that this movie is like three
Speaker 1: really good action set pieces and a bunch of very
Speaker 1: cool gifts. Gifts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm with you. This was comfort food.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it definitely really has that thing where
Speaker 1: how do you do a movie of an anime and
Speaker 1: it's you introduce a new villain who doesn't really affect
Speaker 1: anything and get rid of that villain by the end
Speaker 1: of the episode, and.
Speaker 3: Which is what it was self contained. It happened in
Speaker 3: a vacuum. It didn't even matter when in the timeline
Speaker 3: this happened, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, And I would say to me, the main
Speaker 1: weakness I had with that I found with the film
Speaker 1: this Timmer is I just don't think the villain was
Speaker 1: like compelling at all. No, Right, he was cool, but
Speaker 1: he was not cool.
Speaker 3: Like I think he was introduced in a fun ishu
Speaker 3: way but not realized to possibly his full potential.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I kind of think that there was a
Speaker 1: couple of sections where they kind of hint at like
Speaker 1: this sort of this like connection between Spike and the villain. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I don't know they ever really earned. Like, No,
Speaker 1: there was a kind of you and me were not
Speaker 1: so different kind of vibe to parts of it, and
Speaker 1: like I think they are quite different.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they look alike.
Speaker 2: They basically just had a shared experience on Titan or
Speaker 2: at least you know we were both in the war together,
Speaker 2: but we didn't know each other. But that makes us
Speaker 2: brothers regardless. I wouldn't have really, so I will hands
Speaker 2: hands in the air here. For the first fifty three
Speaker 2: minutes of the movie, I was painting my Wayne Scotting
Speaker 2: in my hallway, so I did have an in the background,
Speaker 2: and I was looking at.
Speaker 3: You had the movie on in the background.
Speaker 2: But then but only for the podcast fifty three means
Speaker 2: and then we went.
Speaker 1: Back for the majority of the movie.
Speaker 2: Then well, I was just painting. It's not like I was.
Speaker 1: And then I went back like it was a counter.
Speaker 2: And rewatched the opening again. I did, sure because Max
Speaker 2: wanted to watch it. So also sitting there shoutow to.
Speaker 5: When you said I don't have When you said I
Speaker 5: don't have it, I was like, he did not have it?
Speaker 3: Is it is anyone else? Overwhelmed with what's this emotion?
Speaker 3: I'm feeling disappointed.
Speaker 2: I was trying to put sh it on me, all right,
Speaker 2: little keyboard boy, I don't know this is? This is yesterday,
Speaker 2: A lot of dear why to do?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And this morning I don't care if it was for time.
Speaker 1: When I was watching this.
Speaker 3: It's early. Listen, I understand what you're saying, Lucy. I'm
Speaker 3: having fun with you. Still disappointed what you know now
Speaker 3: that we're all in agreement about that, Lucy is quite sick.
Speaker 3: Lucy's very sick, and her eyes don't work. I understand
Speaker 3: that it's hard to watch an hour and fifty five
Speaker 3: minute movie about little poison virus balls. I understand, But right,
Speaker 3: nano machines bitch, which you know, they stole a lot.
Speaker 3: They stole from Star Wars, and they stole from the
Speaker 3: Rock and they stole from all of these other popular
Speaker 3: pieces of media to make what we are all agreeing,
Speaker 3: was it mostly like mid to a average cowboy bebop?
Speaker 1: Yeah? You do you want some more cowboy Bebop? Yes? Cool?
Speaker 3: I would love some.
Speaker 1: You could watch this, you know, like that's kind of
Speaker 1: that's my Oh. I thought.
Speaker 3: I thought you were telling me there's a secret thing
Speaker 3: I haven't seen yet and I can get it.
Speaker 1: I think. I think from here you've experienced nearly me.
Speaker 1: I think there's a well, I was like, the manga
Speaker 1: is not made by the people.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think I think this movie is best experienced
Speaker 2: in clips on TikTok in terms of just like parceling
Speaker 2: out the really cool shit that makes you think the
Speaker 2: rest of it is better than it is.
Speaker 3: I disagree, genuinely. I think I think it's best experienced
Speaker 3: as a whole. I mean I have not also consumed
Speaker 3: it in thirty second clips on TikTok in a nine
Speaker 3: by sixteen presentation, but like I think, you know, I
Speaker 3: found it interesting right, Like it also it's widescreen, so
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, this is like a different Cowboy Bebop.
Speaker 3: I was like enjoying that. Also, the production value is
Speaker 3: like you notched up a petal jobs, like.
Speaker 2: Insanely detail in it, but like it's amazing five seconds.
Speaker 2: Some of those backdrops were ridiculous.
Speaker 3: I love that it's got a Halloween thing. I love
Speaker 3: that whole part. Yeah, I feel like that's fun. That's
Speaker 3: just empirically fun. I also found it interesting that like
Speaker 3: where did the like this took place.
Speaker 1: Was it Mars? Was this Mars? Or was it earth
Speaker 1: be leaves?
Speaker 5: So I think it's I thought it was still laws,
Speaker 5: but like the Arab district.
Speaker 3: Right right right, because there's like a bazaar he's in,
Speaker 3: and right there's like this whole element there which I
Speaker 3: thought was like, okay, so, but I also, you know,
Speaker 3: I was suspending your disbelief right where like Mars is
Speaker 3: not this red planet and it's just this like New
Speaker 3: York City was basically what it looked exactly like for
Speaker 3: the entire time, not to mention, you know, they also
Speaker 3: look The biggest thing I had, the biggest issue I
Speaker 3: had with the story here was that towards the end
Speaker 3: when they just kind of lay on you that we
Speaker 3: control the weather. That's what we do. That's always been
Speaker 3: a thing, We control the weather, and that is a
Speaker 3: big that is an essential plot point to the resolution
Speaker 3: of this story.
Speaker 5: Is a little bit issue that they're capable of doing it,
Speaker 5: or that they never mentioned it up until that.
Speaker 3: That they never mention it. I'm okay with it.
Speaker 1: You feel like a little bit of an assphole plot thing,
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, because when I first saw it, I was like, oh,
Speaker 5: it makes sense. How would you build a civilization on Mars.
Speaker 5: You'd have to get control of the weather in terra forma.
Speaker 1: Not just I think from a world building sense it
Speaker 1: makes sense, but from a kind of like like I
Speaker 1: think maybe I don't know if there was something earlier
Speaker 1: in the film.
Speaker 3: Yes, introduced it in the first ten minutes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, yeah, like, there's a few there's a
Speaker 1: few issues I think I have with the movie. I
Speaker 1: think in general, Jet gets like nothing in this movie gets.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a he's a piece of he gets a
Speaker 3: drive in.
Speaker 1: He gets said.
Speaker 2: I was in Portland a few weeks ago and we
Speaker 2: went to this really cool like TACU collectible shop and
Speaker 2: went in and they had these Cowboy by bab little figures.
Speaker 2: The entire box had been picked off Fay and Spike.
Speaker 2: Literally it was all Jet just left.
Speaker 1: Jet deserves people don't like that's crazy. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's even that like they would dislike him. I guess
Speaker 1: he just doesn't stand and he's not as traditionally hot
Speaker 1: as Spike or Face. Yeah, he's hot, is for someone,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong.
Speaker 3: You know, he's he's he's fine. You know, I forgot
Speaker 3: how much I missed. I Oh my god, Iron in
Speaker 3: the Jackal lantern, Oh my god, give me that. That's
Speaker 3: a tattoo right there. I don't know why. I think
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna get on wearing a jack O lantern,
Speaker 3: like in the doodle Zone.
Speaker 2: What's the doodle Zone?
Speaker 1: I know that I have. I haven't answered this question.
Speaker 1: The doodle zone is anything that is below the knee
Speaker 1: or kind of like upper thigh my correct, Cheff.
Speaker 3: I'm just checking with the glossrom here.
Speaker 2: Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 1: So I heard Jeff explain that maybe four years ago
Speaker 1: on a podcast, so I.
Speaker 2: Would say that my my left arm, upper arm is that,
Speaker 2: and my right thigh. So I've got I've got two
Speaker 2: doodle zones.
Speaker 1: Well that's impressive.
Speaker 3: The doodle zone is really for places that no one
Speaker 3: will see a lot.
Speaker 2: Okay, so maybe just my thigh.
Speaker 1: I was I was thinking about geting a Simpsons tattoo
Speaker 1: in the doodle zone.
Speaker 2: Probably were considering I was considering getting a mill Pool.
Speaker 1: Oh that's good.
Speaker 3: Is that millhouse as when he tries to sign.
Speaker 2: His name on the bots cast and he goes, so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't have to talk about this now, but
Speaker 3: my kid is incredibly interested in having lived through a
Speaker 3: month of Fortnight, it was fun.
Speaker 1: I bought the scratchy skin because I'm an idiot. Pretty good,
Speaker 1: It's been pretty good. But yeah, I'm struggling between bart
Speaker 1: is a raven from.
Speaker 3: The from the Halloween.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, yeah, a Kanyan cotos one. I don't know
Speaker 1: cotos what if I saw it, I would get okay,
Speaker 1: got it?
Speaker 3: Sure and itchy and scratch. I like, that's for me.
Speaker 1: That's Halloween episode also feels like.
Speaker 2: More in line with like, you know, being spooky and
Speaker 2: your ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I am quite spooky here.
Speaker 2: You know what I love? I love when Bart and
Speaker 2: Millhouse are in the car and you can just see
Speaker 2: like the tops of their head.
Speaker 1: Oh neat yet.
Speaker 2: I stitched t shirt once, like I did embroidery of it.
Speaker 5: You know the face that Bot makes when he drinks
Speaker 5: the pure slushie where it's his eyes and they're like,
Speaker 5: oh yeah, I think that would be a pretty good tie.
Speaker 3: All right, But what about cowboy bebop tattoos? I said mine.
Speaker 2: We had this conversation because we also like, there's not
Speaker 2: that many ones you could do. You could do spaceship
Speaker 2: see space cowboys ship.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Think is a great shout.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I've seen Spike do the I've seen
Speaker 1: people with that tattoo where he's bang yeah, or that
Speaker 1: that you didn't like, Jeff, Yeah, I didn't like that bit.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Here's the thing. Also, like I like Spike I have
Speaker 3: a twelve inch figure of Spike. He's a cool dude,
Speaker 3: you know that, my twelve inch I just also just
Speaker 3: bought a trench coat for him. So I'm gonna like
Speaker 3: style the trench coat in the wind. Yeah, it's gonna
Speaker 3: be fun. Here's my problem with Spike. In the beginning,
Speaker 3: He's just so he's such a piece of ship. It's
Speaker 3: just like Jet's talking to you, Bud. Give the man
Speaker 3: some respect, like you know, He's just like, I'm tired.
Speaker 3: I have noodles too much.
Speaker 5: He doesn't.
Speaker 3: I wish someone just rub my shoulders. I need protein.
Speaker 7: It's like I would like, I would like I would
Speaker 7: like some more hangout camaraderie in this film because you
Speaker 7: get very little the characters.
Speaker 1: I don't like what they do with Faye. For most
Speaker 1: of the movie. I think Faye getting caught by that
Speaker 1: dude and like just the kind of pretty just not
Speaker 1: great scene of her getting like basically molested by this dude.
Speaker 1: I just thought I did not like that at all.
Speaker 1: I thought that sucked. Did not see anything her character
Speaker 1: any justice because I think she's more like she's phase
Speaker 1: like dangerous, you know what I mean. Yeah, And it
Speaker 1: just I just felt like it really depowered her, Like
Speaker 1: you remember that one scene where she just beats the
Speaker 1: shit out of an ali full of dudes.
Speaker 3: Yes, I agree with you, John, I think she was
Speaker 3: used as like she it was like a prop in
Speaker 3: a really unfortunate way.
Speaker 2: Like they didn't know what to do with her, so
Speaker 2: they gave her an arbitrary peril to deal with that
Speaker 2: just felt ultimately inconsequential and not really in keeping with
Speaker 2: her character.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good assessment of her, like her her
Speaker 3: addiction to to to.
Speaker 4: Just sort of like.
Speaker 3: Not violence, but just sort of like action. And and
Speaker 3: they demonstrated that I guess where she was originally chasing
Speaker 3: down this bounty that they were looking for, driving the truck,
Speaker 3: and that's she sort of like, you know, is introducing
Speaker 3: the villain here. But yeah, then she kind of falls
Speaker 3: off and it's it's a it's a misuse of of
Speaker 3: her great sort of personality. I would be lying if
Speaker 3: I said I didn't enjoy this, because I did. I
Speaker 3: did enjoy it. I think it was I enjoyed it too.
Speaker 3: I think I I think maybe I had just.
Speaker 1: Pumped it up too much for myself because I was
Speaker 1: just like, oh hell yeah, like the Cowboy Bebop movie.
Speaker 1: Here we Go. And then when I watched it back,
Speaker 1: I was like, well, this is a nice looking long episode,
Speaker 1: but there were still parts I really really enjoyed, and
Speaker 1: one of them was that opening section where Spike like
Speaker 1: bumbles his way into stopping a store robbery. I think
Speaker 1: that's fun him want to start to move so funny.
Speaker 3: Totally yeah, so good and it and it also does,
Speaker 3: to my point earlier, really demonstrate out of the gate
Speaker 3: of like, hey, we spent a little bit of money here.
Speaker 3: There's like some there, there's there's some optics, there's some
Speaker 3: real quality of life enhancements, and and larger investment in
Speaker 3: production value here. The movie also has like an interesting
Speaker 3: shadow look to it, where like you can see certain
Speaker 3: characters do cast a bit of their own almost like
Speaker 3: two point five dimensional shadow. I don't know if you
Speaker 3: guys pick this up, but there is some of this
Speaker 3: interesting layering going on there that I would imagine was
Speaker 3: a deliberate design choice, because it's not throughout, it's only
Speaker 3: in certain areas, and they kind of like people have
Speaker 3: like a bit of a gray outline to them, which
Speaker 3: I found to be really like nice to look at
Speaker 3: and watch that for me was the biggest thing. And
Speaker 3: I also love the fact that like it felt very
Speaker 3: New York. It just felt like a New York Cowboy
Speaker 3: Bebop movie for whatever. That's where down to the yellow taxicabs, right,
Speaker 3: So I really I dug that. You know, just like
Speaker 3: a lot of Cowboy Bebop, it takes its time, it
Speaker 3: makes a meal out of a lot of stuff, you know.
Speaker 3: I enjoyed sort of like where we were going with Electro.
Speaker 3: Yeah your name is that the Yeah, I thought that
Speaker 3: would have liked her more. Right.
Speaker 1: I liked where we were actuated.
Speaker 2: Like a fucking sleeping cell agent as soon as I
Speaker 2: heard her up in her mouth because I was like,
Speaker 2: Jennifer Hale, she is command of Shepherd.
Speaker 5: Yep, she's ah it's fantastic, yeah.
Speaker 1: Really really good. The first scene with her and Spike
Speaker 1: is great. It's great, yeah, really trying.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the fight where he's like posing as a uh janitor,
Speaker 5: Yeah right.
Speaker 1: I just like the whole flow of that fight where
Speaker 1: he's like stopping her with the room and so at
Speaker 1: one point she just takes a second and snaps the room.
Speaker 1: It's like, Oh, that's that's the ship. I love from
Speaker 1: fights where it's gonna be like a conversation, you know, funny.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So do you want to like go over like
Speaker 3: what the story was. I mean, we've kind of been
Speaker 3: jumping all over.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're going to go through this
Speaker 2: scene by scene we normally do. I think I think, yeah,
Speaker 2: topics and maybe going through that way is a little
Speaker 2: more digestile. I don't know, jeah.
Speaker 1: So, like the basic plot is that there is this
Speaker 1: guy and he is a like terrorist and he has
Speaker 1: basically stolen this like biological weapon, which is this like
Speaker 1: nerve gas thing contained in these small spheres, which once
Speaker 1: it hits the air, will immediately like kill anyone it touches.
Speaker 1: And it's this whole kind of very eighties action movie
Speaker 1: villain thing of the government fucked me over and so
Speaker 1: now I'm going to commit acts of terrorism to get
Speaker 1: my revenge real. Oh, under siege that that old Steven
Speaker 1: Sigal movie, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: It's it's the rock and the Rock, right, The rock is.
Speaker 1: About the rock all like the ex military uh, traumatized
Speaker 1: soldiers turns out the greatest villain of all I guess,
Speaker 1: but it's uh, and like, you know, the plot is fine.
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of kind of just being
Speaker 1: connected from A to B to C in like I
Speaker 1: would say, not super interesting ways, a lot of like
Speaker 1: following Spike around and like, well, I would say the
Speaker 1: conversations he's having aren't that interesting. I often find like
Speaker 1: the place he's he's having them are so fucking cool.
Speaker 1: Like there's this little section where he walks into this
Speaker 1: clock shop and it's just like this golden shop and
Speaker 1: its ceiling is filled with clocks, and it's like his
Speaker 1: palette changes and it's like it's so atmospheric and gorgeous.
Speaker 1: And I think it's moments like that that are kind
Speaker 1: of that is the fun of this movie, maybe opposed
Speaker 1: to any like character or plot stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, I and and you know, and I
Speaker 3: was while I was watching it, I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: you know what, Like, no one needs to see Cowboy
Speaker 3: Bebop ever to be able to appreciate this, do you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean? Yeah? Yeah, it is a Standaloneah, It's.
Speaker 3: It's a standalone. I thought that was really cool. I
Speaker 3: was like, you know what, like, because and I gotta
Speaker 3: imagine that the deliberate choice too, right, if they kind
Speaker 3: of like you know, yeah, right, you got to.
Speaker 2: Make it as I think as possible.
Speaker 5: Was it released. I think it was released in theaters,
Speaker 5: I remember correctly, and I feel like that's a symptom
Speaker 5: of that. Like if it was Straight to City or whatever,
Speaker 5: you could assume that anyone experiencing it has history. But
Speaker 5: I think because it was a theater release, they needed
Speaker 5: to make it broadly more understandable. And I think that's
Speaker 5: one of the reasons it's not as impactful from a
Speaker 5: narrative perspective as it could have been. To rely on
Speaker 5: you know, the series as a starting point would have
Speaker 5: just confused a lot of people because you'll probably start
Speaker 5: off with a lot of people being depressed.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and I think you're right, Sam, And I
Speaker 1: think maybe that stops what that stops some kind of
Speaker 1: diving into like the character dynamics or like any of
Speaker 1: their stories, because I think this is meant to take
Speaker 1: place between episode twenty two and twenty three, and at
Speaker 1: that point, each one of the guys have been torn
Speaker 1: open a little bit and we're really starting to get
Speaker 1: like who they are, and you just get none of
Speaker 1: that here. But like what you do get is you
Speaker 1: get that like really beautiful intro, which I think, Jeff,
Speaker 1: when you said earlier about this being like a New York,
Speaker 1: New York movie, that black and white intro of just
Speaker 1: like the different people, I think really really nails that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 1: The song's a little weird.
Speaker 3: I don't think the song's fun. It's fun, I just
Speaker 3: don't know if it like directly matches the vibe of
Speaker 3: what they're maybe to accomplish. But it was the entire
Speaker 3: movie like it. There's a lot of license music, and
Speaker 3: I just missed how coboy bebop sounds.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Mean there was some like little jazzy moments and stuff,
Speaker 2: but I missed tank a lot, like the opening song.
Speaker 2: Even though it's nice to have something different, I don't
Speaker 2: know that's something about it that is just so embodies bebop.
Speaker 3: So well, yeah, yeah, yeah I missed. I did miss
Speaker 3: the music. I'd missed the jazz, right, I missed, Like
Speaker 3: I forget it's so like it's so uh inescapable from
Speaker 3: this thing. I don't it really?
Speaker 1: Did you know? Watching this whole thing made me.
Speaker 3: Like realize, like I think this was still my favorite
Speaker 3: of all the stuff we watched. Like I think that
Speaker 3: the Cowboy Bebop series maybe. I mean, although season one
Speaker 3: and two.
Speaker 1: Of JoJo's are up there too.
Speaker 3: I mean, I look, I liked everything, am I allowed
Speaker 3: just like everything everything.
Speaker 2: That just means we did a great That was kind
Speaker 2: of the point of picking stuff for you.
Speaker 5: We're going to sit down and watch something that we
Speaker 5: think you might hate.
Speaker 3: Well, I do think there was like trepidation right there
Speaker 3: was certainly like, oh my god, is he gonna like
Speaker 3: berserk right there? You I think you admitted that to me. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was definitely a bit.
Speaker 2: Of a was the slight amble.
Speaker 5: It was. Yeah, it was the first big swing that
Speaker 5: we took.
Speaker 3: I was I was in I was in Asbury Park,
Speaker 3: New Jersey, over the over the weekend and I have
Speaker 3: a buddy who is a friend, a cousin of a
Speaker 3: close friend of mine, and he opened a vinyl and
Speaker 3: comic book store on the boardwalk there and I'm in
Speaker 3: there and I'm going through all the books and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: I've seen that, I've seen that, so I know about this.
Speaker 3: I know about that. And let me tell you guys
Speaker 3: something they were in Yeah, like oh really, They're like, oh, wow,
Speaker 3: you watched well, you watched the nineteen ninety seven anime
Speaker 3: right like yep, I certainly did, and even Stacey could
Speaker 3: talk to it too, for the two episodes that she
Speaker 3: watched before all hell broke loose in the in the Midlands.
Speaker 1: Is that what it was? Yeah?
Speaker 5: I feel like we made it. Doesn't it's successful?
Speaker 1: Right totally? That that's proof.
Speaker 3: That's that's real world proof that this entire series has
Speaker 3: been what.
Speaker 2: We gave you transferable skills to use in your real life. Impressed.
Speaker 3: I looked cool with dorks ye, and I was I
Speaker 3: was King of the Dorks.
Speaker 1: If just for an hour, that's what you need. It
Speaker 1: was beautiful. That's so beautiful. No, that's that that that
Speaker 1: was the entire jo.
Speaker 2: Looked so proud. Sure, well you were telling that story
Speaker 2: a proud I did.
Speaker 1: It nearly makes up for that time during the panel
Speaker 1: someone asked you what a stand is?
Speaker 3: Oh, and you did not Oh you didn't like that.
Speaker 3: You didn't like my answer?
Speaker 2: What was your answer?
Speaker 1: I didn't like an answer, he didn't say helped primarily
Speaker 1: with Haman, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Which is like wrong, I guess, but also I yeah,
Speaker 3: I think I'm I'm I've grown from that point, John,
Speaker 3: I'd like to think I've evolved, I've found a new form.
Speaker 1: Jeff, I'm curious, like, what are what what What would
Speaker 1: be some of your favorite and if you need a
Speaker 1: minute here, we can come back to it. What would
Speaker 1: be some of your favorite like anime moments that you
Speaker 1: encountered in over the course of Jeff Jeff's.
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, this could should definitely be a group effort,
Speaker 3: I think just for you know, memories. I do think
Speaker 3: when I first jumped into Joe Joe's and not understanding anything,
Speaker 3: I was like when this show started to just like.
Speaker 1: That was a blessed period, all right, just.
Speaker 3: Getting the training wheels off for a little bit and
Speaker 3: then like being exposed. I think I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3: The thing that normalized it for me was the Roundabout song.
Speaker 3: Like the second I heard that, I was like, oh
Speaker 3: wait a minute, like.
Speaker 2: This isn't something on earth?
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, Like Roundabout actually grounded me in a
Speaker 3: really interesting way. And then obviously all of the allusions
Speaker 3: to you know, American and like British rock, and I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, like okay, there's some sort of like infatuation,
Speaker 3: and I think a lot of that kind of like
Speaker 3: grounded it for me in a big way. And I
Speaker 3: do think the discovery of the vampiric kind of like
Speaker 3: nature of it all was like oh, because I think
Speaker 3: anime for me was always this kind of like foreign
Speaker 3: entity literally, right, that just seemed to my ignorance, right,
Speaker 3: like just seemed like impenetrable, like, oh, people who watch
Speaker 3: this are lying to themselves that they're getting out of it, right,
Speaker 3: I'll be honest, like again, my very nascent, immature sort
Speaker 3: of like ye, you know, even before we started this.
Speaker 3: I'm talking more like you know, when I was in college, right,
Speaker 3: and I like missed out on like tsunami, which I
Speaker 3: have obviously I have deep regrets about now because I
Speaker 3: would have already seen Cowboy Bebop.
Speaker 1: Oh let me tell you anime is a teenager different.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. And I think I
Speaker 3: missed out on these really formative sort of moments, which
Speaker 3: you know kind of bothered me a little bit, right,
Speaker 3: But you can't live life with hergreasts late never too
Speaker 3: late to start watching anime. That's what my dad used
Speaker 3: to tell me. So I think it's Yeah, I think
Speaker 3: like for me, that impenetrable sort of fog, having that
Speaker 3: lifted like that would genuinely the most, even though too
Speaker 3: many people listening would be like so glaring and be like, oh, Jeff,
Speaker 3: you're such a dumb eady how could you ever think
Speaker 3: that way? But like I really did need this. I
Speaker 3: needed to be able to speak this language and to
Speaker 3: be able to kind of like you know, traverse the
Speaker 3: kind of chasm that I artificially created for myself. There,
Speaker 3: you know my favorite parts. I love the the Italian
Speaker 3: Restaurant episode.
Speaker 1: I was so excited to get there from day one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like without a doubt, I'm trying to think of
Speaker 3: most of one punch man. I really just drifted with
Speaker 3: that energy very quickly, uh you know, as a bald man.
Speaker 1: What else in the way that.
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: And then and then I think Cowboy be about for
Speaker 3: me the first couple episodes. Obviously there was a character
Speaker 3: in that first episode which we can we all know
Speaker 3: who we're talking about. We have fond memories of Yep,
Speaker 3: of jet and understanding like, oh that that's what this is.
Speaker 3: This is this like retro future you know, kind of
Speaker 3: like uh noir space crime opera thing that you're gonna
Speaker 3: you know, and it's just like made for me and
Speaker 3: the way that I see people obsessed with Cowboy Bebop
Speaker 3: and never really knew what, you know, kool aid they
Speaker 3: were drinking. Now, having tasted it and understand it and
Speaker 3: being able to like totally relate has been so gratifying.
Speaker 3: And then you know, look, I think with Berserk, obviously
Speaker 3: watching that whole series, knowing the thing, what am I
Speaker 3: waiting for? What does this T shirt mean? Tam doing
Speaker 3: that to me that way.
Speaker 5: I felt like it helped.
Speaker 3: You know, I know I talked about this in the
Speaker 3: finale of the Berserk thing, but like I cannot under
Speaker 3: overstate rather just how much that having that shirt in
Speaker 3: my closet freaked me out, because, let me tell you
Speaker 3: guys something. I didn't start wearing it until we finished Berserk.
Speaker 2: I couldn't do it.
Speaker 1: I couldn't do it.
Speaker 3: It was it was my black belt, you know, Like
Speaker 3: I could not bring myself to walk around with this.
Speaker 3: What are those characters? I know their names, but what
Speaker 3: was there? The god hands? Like I couldn't go around
Speaker 3: life society. I couldn't be out there, exposed to the
Speaker 3: elements and have someone recognize what I was wearing and
Speaker 3: then start talking to me about it. No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: I'm wearing this shirt premature and be like, oh, so
Speaker 3: you're a fraud, Yes, you're I am a fraud. You're correct,
Speaker 3: I haven't earned the right to wear this T shirt.
Speaker 3: But that was honestly such an interesting dynamic to this.
Speaker 3: I know it sounds silly, but like I that that
Speaker 3: was genuinely like the under the floorboards, Like that was
Speaker 3: like the you know, the thing that was the beating heart.
Speaker 3: That was like this thing in my closet where I'm
Speaker 3: just like, the fucker's on.
Speaker 5: In the world?
Speaker 1: These people sprain exposed?
Speaker 2: Do you recognize?
Speaker 3: So I'll say this and Tam, You're gonna you're gonna
Speaker 3: just freak out when I say this. The only thing
Speaker 3: that looked familiar to me was this elden ring ass
Speaker 3: looking motherfucker with that sphere of cage on with the
Speaker 3: ball cage. That was the only thing where I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm like, who's that? Like I had I told you
Speaker 3: this in the in the finale berserk, like my mind wandered.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, is this guy? Do
Speaker 3: they all just become like, you know, these cosmic beings
Speaker 3: and they just that's what this medieval war castle story
Speaker 3: turns into and in a way, yeah, that is kind
Speaker 3: of what it does. But yeah, like filling me with
Speaker 3: genuine dread in a way that I will be honest
Speaker 3: was a bit uncomfortable. You know. I don't know anyway,
Speaker 3: it's a very long answer, and I don't know if
Speaker 3: I answered everything you asked of me. But that's I
Speaker 3: think I did a decent job going through all.
Speaker 1: The series there. I think you did it. And I
Speaker 1: think when I think, like some of my favorite moments,
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed some of the arguments we've had, and
Speaker 1: I think my favorite one I think this is one
Speaker 1: of the only times on the podcast I maybe lost
Speaker 1: it with all three of you was the magnifying glass
Speaker 1: from Jojo. From Jojo season four, Rohan's house gets set
Speaker 1: on fire.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's so easy to forget all these little.
Speaker 1: I really I really loved the arguments about like the
Speaker 1: UFOs as well and how easy it is to do
Speaker 1: a cross.
Speaker 5: The crop was crop circle Gate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was pretty good.
Speaker 5: I think I think real strong with his turn based comments.
Speaker 1: Cartoons was second. He said that, I'm like, oh, we.
Speaker 5: Got it's completely I feel like it's a completely unique
Speaker 5: contribution to the anime world from Jeff.
Speaker 1: I've never I've never heard that before me neither ever,
Speaker 1: And I was just like, and I just remember, like
Speaker 1: even the way you said that quote, Jeff, because I remember
Speaker 1: I put it in a video somewhere and you were
Speaker 1: so like exacerbated, like you were like these are like
Speaker 1: turn based cartoons, you know, and amazing.
Speaker 3: I you know, when that occurred to me, I was
Speaker 3: like very I'll be honest, I was like very like
Speaker 3: proud of that like conclusion. I drew when because I
Speaker 3: was by myself and I was just like.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's just what this fucking is.
Speaker 3: That's just what this fucking is.
Speaker 1: Like what are we hiding?
Speaker 3: We? What are we what are we trying to kid
Speaker 3: ourselves with? I still stand by that.
Speaker 1: Oh not inaccurate even slightly, Like I don't know just
Speaker 1: how to describe the pacing of a lot of anime
Speaker 1: better than that, right, you know, all it's missing is dice.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: My favorite jephism from the whole series of this podcast
Speaker 2: is every time we watch something and he get very
Speaker 2: incredulous and go, what are we doing here? What are
Speaker 2: we doing here? What are we doing here? It's something
Speaker 2: that I have now taken into my everyday vocabulary, and
Speaker 2: it just comes from you being exasperated at various anime shenanigans.
Speaker 3: We'll notice life presents itself in that way a lot,
Speaker 3: and what else can you say?
Speaker 1: But what are we doing here?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I also just love comparing notes after watching episodes
Speaker 2: because we'd all call up obviously like a lot of
Speaker 2: the same things, and then one of us would call
Speaker 2: up like a random little thing, and we'd all go, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: what was that about, and we all sound like, Jeff, oh,
Speaker 2: we're doing it.
Speaker 3: It's not a bad thing, it's good. It grows on you, right.
Speaker 1: No, for sure, I think like it's always going to
Speaker 1: be difficult, well, pretty much impossible for me to separate,
Speaker 1: like this podcast from specifically getting to know the three
Speaker 1: of you, because I think like Tim Weed done a charity.
Speaker 5: Stream, right yeah, me and Lucy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then then I'd never met you, Jeff, and
Speaker 1: I really didn't know how that was going to go
Speaker 1: at all. And and then like you know, I've I
Speaker 1: we started the podcast, and I felt like we got
Speaker 1: on well. But I think then, Jeff, I remember our
Speaker 1: first meeting in New York. Do you remember that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, what do you mean? And that was so
Speaker 1: interesting because like I remember just like waiting for you
Speaker 1: in like this this this Japanese restaurant, and you kind
Speaker 1: of came in and I was like, oh shit, there
Speaker 1: is you know, because like we'd never we'd at that
Speaker 1: point we've been doing the podcast like a year or
Speaker 1: two together and we'd never met it. Kind of just
Speaker 1: came over and you put your you put your hands
Speaker 1: on my hand. You just make me just go this,
Speaker 1: and I remember like immediately we just ended up having
Speaker 1: like like a pretty deep conversation kind of out of
Speaker 1: nowhere about different stuff, and then we just hang out,
Speaker 1: hung out in New York. Remember we bought puppets. Remember
Speaker 1: that I still have them. I haven't been I still
Speaker 1: have mine. I still have mine. And then the girl
Speaker 1: who sold us the puppets were like, are you super
Speaker 1: rip Patch Wolf? And then Jeff just like, what you
Speaker 1: don't recognize? Oh my hell? Yeah.
Speaker 3: I didn't say it to her. Maybe I did say
Speaker 3: to you said that to her face. Did say it
Speaker 3: was fun though, because I was like, you're in a
Speaker 3: good mood, you'll take this joke.
Speaker 1: Well, did she think so? I think so?
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: And then like just the chaos of flying out to
Speaker 1: packs and being like really excited to meet you guys
Speaker 1: like proper. It's always weird to say meat because like
Speaker 1: obviously we met before that, but then like having that coat,
Speaker 1: with the chaos of oh boy, are we legally allowed
Speaker 1: put on this part getting on a plane, Like I
Speaker 1: remember that Monday, I didn't know if we were even
Speaker 1: I didn't know if I was getting on a plane
Speaker 1: and my flight was in like two days and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I remember.
Speaker 2: We also like we weren't sure if we were able
Speaker 2: to post, like if we should post it all, you know,
Speaker 2: like anything I'll never forget, like workshopping that tweet or
Speaker 2: like blue sky post in Jeff's hotel room with you John,
Speaker 2: It's just like how do we do this? How do
Speaker 2: we put this out?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm still proud of that name we came up with.
Speaker 1: End of Ze World.
Speaker 2: It's happening. I also never forget just Dib just dropping in,
Speaker 2: like taking a break from fucking Rocket League, even two minutes,
Speaker 2: and then he was like all right, and then just
Speaker 2: going back in, just ignoring us, just completely unfazed. And
Speaker 2: then you becoming his favorite person because we took him
Speaker 2: to play d and.
Speaker 3: D Oh my god, he still talked about it.
Speaker 1: DIB like melted my heart a couple moments on that trip.
Speaker 1: I think my favorite one was when he was talking
Speaker 1: to Stacy and he kind of just goes, could I
Speaker 1: get my hair died? And Stacey's just like what color?
Speaker 1: He just looks at me and he kind of goes
Speaker 1: just a normal color of like silver.
Speaker 3: God. He yeah, he is very much wosh coated.
Speaker 1: But the part that actually killed me, like the part
Speaker 1: that nearly like got me a tiny bit choked up,
Speaker 1: was he just kind of turns to me and he goes,
Speaker 1: do you have a kid, And I was like, no,
Speaker 1: I don't, and he just goes, huh, I feel like
Speaker 1: if you had a kid, me and that kid would
Speaker 1: be friends.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: I know he's good at that. No, he doesn't know
Speaker 3: he's doing that. He's you know, I think he you know,
Speaker 3: I think he genuinely feels that way, and I think
Speaker 3: he's very good at expressing himself, you know, which is
Speaker 3: There was also like.
Speaker 1: A little like kind of running gag I had with
Speaker 1: me and him, where like every time I saw him,
Speaker 1: I'd introduce myself to him as if we've never met
Speaker 1: Like he'd start, he started, he'd get like annoyed about it.
Speaker 1: But then the last day I was like, I'm John
Speaker 1: and he was like, hey, I'm Tim. I was like
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, I don't ever remember meeting
Speaker 1: you before. And he was kind of like, well, I
Speaker 1: don't remember anything. And I kind of looked at him
Speaker 1: and I kind of looked at him and I was like,
Speaker 1: do you know where we are? And he was like no,
Speaker 1: and I was like me neither. Like we walked around,
Speaker 1: I think we were walking behind uh you guys for
Speaker 1: a little bit and we were just kind of looking
Speaker 1: at the stalls and stuff, being like, yeah, I have
Speaker 1: no idea what's going. I don't know who I am.
Speaker 1: It's just the stupidest like bit to have with ten.
Speaker 3: He's ten, I'll be eleven. Uh in a couple of months.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like, oh man, I think back to that,
Speaker 1: that's so fondly Yeah, just like even that entire trip,
Speaker 1: like the panel. I was so delighted with how the
Speaker 1: panel went, because like I was worried that, like, you know,
Speaker 1: because what we gave people like a day's confirmation that
Speaker 1: it was even fucking on. I thought like, no one
Speaker 1: would be there and we had such a good turnout,
Speaker 1: and like everyone like it was so weird, Like it
Speaker 1: was just and like there was all these people that
Speaker 1: like I knew and respected from the internet, and I
Speaker 1: was like realized, Oh wow, they they just watched my
Speaker 1: stupid anime panel. You know.
Speaker 2: It was such a time.
Speaker 3: You know, I think that weekend was just so It's
Speaker 3: very silly obviously in the manner in which that it
Speaker 3: had to happen, and it just you know, I think
Speaker 3: given the circumstances and what we were all meant to
Speaker 3: deal with in the incredibly compressed amount of time, just everything,
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, all things considered, I just
Speaker 3: don't know how it could have gone.
Speaker 1: You know, look, it was painful. There.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say it was not pain It was
Speaker 3: definitely painful. Like there's no shortage of that. I just think, Uh,
Speaker 3: it's a testament to all of us that we were
Speaker 3: just able to like see it out the other side
Speaker 3: in a way that I don't know, from the outside
Speaker 3: looking in probably seemed pretty functional, you know, which is
Speaker 3: definitely an accomplishment for sure, But oh my god, I
Speaker 3: look back on that weekend and I'm just sort of like,
Speaker 3: what the fuck happened that?
Speaker 1: Even even just like being as tangently involved and that
Speaker 1: stuff as I was, it just felt insane that entire
Speaker 1: weekend totally.
Speaker 6: It's crazy. No, no, go ahead, No, you go ahead,
Speaker 6: you go ahead. I was going to say that. The
Speaker 6: last night, well, we were playing some sort of game
Speaker 6: in the hotel lobby and I can't remember what it was.
Speaker 3: Oh, we were playing Monopoly.
Speaker 1: Monopoly.
Speaker 5: Yes, I was watching David and Stacy playing Monopoly together
Speaker 5: and it was like really sweet the way that they were.
Speaker 5: It was weird just seeing your family amongst all the
Speaker 5: people of the industry that we know being so comfortable
Speaker 5: with it. It had like it felt like a actual
Speaker 5: like oh these people are family moments. It was cool.
Speaker 1: I actually had a lot of that with you guys.
Speaker 1: I remember, like just it was really cool getting to
Speaker 1: know Stacy as well. And I think I've said this
Speaker 1: to you before, Jeff, but there was a moment up
Speaker 1: in your hotel room where you know, like the last
Speaker 1: papers were getting signed and stuff, and it was like
Speaker 1: very exciting and I was like, I guess we're both
Speaker 1: business owners now, Jeff, and you were like yeah. And
Speaker 1: then I remember saying like, of course, you know, no
Speaker 1: one like just handed me mine and I just saw
Speaker 1: Stace in the corner and go like I just fell
Speaker 1: in love with her. From that moment, I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: she rules, like she's great, you know, funny.
Speaker 5: But yeah, we had that nice breakfast John, but was
Speaker 5: like really good breakfast that was so good, so good,
Speaker 5: freezing cold.
Speaker 1: Oh so cold, but we just got like really really
Speaker 1: good porridge in this place and it was our first
Speaker 1: opportunity to ever really like hang out, hanging out, and
Speaker 1: that was just just so so nice.
Speaker 5: Yeah, John and I.
Speaker 2: Were first steak dinner. Because it was rating and it
Speaker 2: was we couldn't find anywhere to go, so we ended
Speaker 2: up in mortains. It's actually very nice. I've never been before.
Speaker 1: I remember that pretty friendly. Yeah, that was that was cool.
Speaker 2: Were the only people, the only people sat in that
Speaker 2: out the outdoor seating thing that they had closed off, And.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely hard not to feel like, I guess
Speaker 1: just a little bittersweet about how sure just the podcast
Speaker 1: in general is ending, because I think, like I think
Speaker 1: we would all prefer like an alternate reality where like
Speaker 1: it was easier and it was less complicated, but at
Speaker 1: the same time, like if I've kind of learned anything
Speaker 1: my time online is like everything ends, everything ends at
Speaker 1: some point, and I guess, like I'm glad that this
Speaker 1: is ending in a way that you know, the next
Speaker 1: time I see you guys at the con or whatever,
Speaker 1: it's going to be like exactly as exciting and uncomplicated,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because you do not always
Speaker 1: get that luxury and that fucking that really sucks, like
Speaker 1: that can lead to some really heartbreaking scenarios. And you know,
Speaker 1: even though like I wish we had gotten more of
Speaker 1: a tail and I wish this could have worked out
Speaker 1: another way, I am just really really glad that like
Speaker 1: we got to know each other what we did, and
Speaker 1: we got to spend all these just like hours having
Speaker 1: the most bullshit anime arguments, and I would not take
Speaker 1: that back for the world, you know. So yeah, man, m.
Speaker 2: It feels weird.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard to end the podcast.
Speaker 1: It's hard to end the podcast. It's like there's always
Speaker 1: an element of it where it feels a bit a
Speaker 1: little like a breakup, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know it's it's because it's also like
Speaker 3: it's not a thing that you like, you know, definitely
Speaker 3: ended the podcast before, but like it's you know, people
Speaker 3: are like, oh, well, you know, like shows come to
Speaker 3: an end and that's what it is, and it's like,
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's just different. It's just different. You
Speaker 3: can't really put into words. It's just a different kind
Speaker 3: of thing.
Speaker 2: And it's like the right people, wrong time.
Speaker 3: That's okay, Yeah, that's okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but what about that fight scene on the train?
Speaker 1: It's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Had a good time with that. Yeah, I really enjoyed
Speaker 2: that bit. I thought it was super cool. Although I
Speaker 2: think that if I was on a train and someone
Speaker 2: pulled out a gun, I would one hundred percent move
Speaker 2: a little quicker than most of the people did in
Speaker 2: that Secrets.
Speaker 3: Oh you were made newspaper, the bullet Come on, bro,
Speaker 3: He's like, h just another Wednesday.
Speaker 2: I've been on BOT in San Francisco. Nothing.
Speaker 1: I love.
Speaker 3: I love all that I love like the world building
Speaker 3: and all like the weird transportation things and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: and it's like.
Speaker 1: It's fun. I don't think I ever I don't think
Speaker 1: I ever.
Speaker 3: Realized like what year it was supposed to be. And
Speaker 3: they kind of like tell you directly in this two
Speaker 3: year is it I was like twenty sixty something. It's
Speaker 3: like twenty sixty something or like twenty seventy, and I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, that's that's charitable.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think when this was written that portray of
Speaker 1: the future was probably meant to be dystopian. Seems pretty
Speaker 1: rad from where I'm standing at this point. Seems okay, right,
Speaker 1: it seems like mostly.
Speaker 5: Okay spending this shit we got going on here.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a shot in that train fight scene that
Speaker 1: have you ever seen a tam It's like a one
Speaker 1: to one of a couple of shots from Naruto.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yes, Basically it looks like the animator for the Naruto
Speaker 1: fight scene just kind of traced those poses and that
Speaker 1: timing and did it in Naruto. And there was a
Speaker 1: big controversy back in the day when it happened, well
Speaker 1: like a fan controversy, I guess, and people are like,
Speaker 1: this is bullshit. He traced those things, And then a
Speaker 1: rumor went around that it was the same animator. I've
Speaker 1: never seen that corroborated, but it's kind of the popular narrative.
Speaker 1: And then people started saying, well, no, it's a homage.
Speaker 1: And it started this. It didn't really start an interesting discussion.
Speaker 1: But I think like, at what point is something a
Speaker 1: rip off? And is what point something a homage?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting. I think if you're copying something, if
Speaker 3: you're copying, yeah, I don't have like all the context,
Speaker 3: but I do think if you're copying something frame by frame,
Speaker 3: that's an homage because you are you are you are
Speaker 3: looking to directly evoke the feeling from the original source.
Speaker 1: Okay, that makes fear. See what you think? All right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna watch this in real time.
Speaker 5: Yes, I feel I feel like it's an homage.
Speaker 3: It's gotta be. Oh yeah, it's that's homage.
Speaker 1: I think someone wanted to save some time during it
Speaker 1: deadway you think it's you think, yeah, one hundred oh man.
Speaker 5: I I whenever I when I saw that and someone
Speaker 5: find out, I was like, oh that's really nice. That's cool.
Speaker 1: I think someone was like, a fuck, what am I
Speaker 1: gonna do for these shots? Wait?
Speaker 2: I know?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but this is this is literally seven seconds? Like
Speaker 3: why steal only seven seconds?
Speaker 1: Seven seconds? My friend? There's a lot of work at animation. No,
Speaker 1: I know, like several days. Uh, it's funny.
Speaker 3: The first comment in this reddit thread is well, I
Speaker 3: heard both of these were homage to a Bruce Lee fight.
Speaker 1: Also, which is also untrue. There's no shots from a
Speaker 1: Bruce Lee fight that are like this.
Speaker 5: But I mean the whole character is a Bruce Lee
Speaker 5: standing so mm hmi style. Yeah, but I saw it
Speaker 5: as an homage shot. That's cool and also like it
Speaker 5: was very at the time during the scene, I remember thinking, oh,
Speaker 5: that was a weird sequence, Like it didn't look like
Speaker 5: anything else that the show had done up until that point.
Speaker 5: I thought was when I realized it's because of this,
Speaker 5: maybe that's cool. I think like it's very much a
Speaker 5: matter of perspective. But yeah, I I respect your guy's opinion.
Speaker 5: I will rethink this. What makes it different from all
Speaker 5: the times that a anime or a show has done
Speaker 5: the Akira bike slide, It's pretty much the same thing,
Speaker 5: different characters.
Speaker 1: What's different. Here's what's different. If you just watch the
Speaker 1: Narrato bit, there is no way to know it's from
Speaker 1: Cowboy Beabup unless you are intimately familiar with that piece
Speaker 1: of animation. Like, it's not stating that that's what it is.
Speaker 1: When you watch the Akira bike slide, that moment is
Speaker 1: so iconic and so like famous that you instantly know
Speaker 1: it's the Akira bit yea. These three shots of Spike
Speaker 1: punching this person on the train outside this moment, and
Speaker 1: the fact that it's a nice piece of animation. There's
Speaker 1: nothing iconic about that in the same way it would
Speaker 1: be if someone did a like bang that would be different.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess I could be like that animator for
Speaker 5: that animator. That sequence in Cowboy Bebop might be the
Speaker 5: reason he's animating right now, and it's like, you know
Speaker 5: this or their animating, I don't know what they're generated.
Speaker 1: That's the case. Totally fair enough, You've kin.
Speaker 5: It could be like I think, yeah, no one really
Speaker 5: loves this part of this. No one talks about this thing,
Speaker 5: but this is a sequence I It changed my life,
Speaker 5: and I'm going to take this opportunity to many years later,
Speaker 5: you know, tip my hat at to something that I
Speaker 5: really love.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm.
Speaker 5: I just I feel like you can approject from a
Speaker 5: cynical way and you can approject from a understanding way
Speaker 5: and both are probably equally as vibe because we'll never
Speaker 5: know the truth.
Speaker 1: Totally fair, totally fair.
Speaker 5: Yeah, before we end the podcast, there's one more thing
Speaker 5: that I think that we should do, and I want
Speaker 5: to present it to you John because as well Lucy,
Speaker 5: you'll know what it's from to a degree. But because
Speaker 5: are not doing any more jojo, there's one part of jojo,
Speaker 5: specifically a song that we will never get to see
Speaker 5: Jeff experience anymore.
Speaker 1: Do I have to?
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm sorry, go on.
Speaker 5: I was just suggesting maybe we could listen to that
Speaker 5: song together just to get like a live reaction of it.
Speaker 5: You know the song, John, Right, you know what I'm talking.
Speaker 1: About a couple of songs. I'm not sure it's.
Speaker 5: The Eleventorado song, the legendary the piano song man.
Speaker 3: Oh, yes, okay, So it's just like that. Is this
Speaker 3: like the closing credits song? You know it's in chapter.
Speaker 5: We don't have what part is it that it comes on?
Speaker 5: H I think it's part five? Let me but there's
Speaker 5: it's a song that they introduce in in one of
Speaker 5: the parts, and it's just like it's the iconic Joe
Speaker 5: parts of songs Part five year is it start as Crusaders?
Speaker 5: I can't remember what it's called, but that part, but
Speaker 5: I think it's it's Journal's theme is what it is? Yeah,
Speaker 5: and every every member of the fandom knows it. It's
Speaker 5: like a five minute song and it's just like everyone
Speaker 5: loves it. So I don't know. I feel like we
Speaker 5: should listen to it and get Jeff's take on it,
Speaker 5: just because I was looking forward to when that song
Speaker 5: kicked in. Well, we were watching this part, but we'll
Speaker 5: never get to it now, so I would love to
Speaker 5: hear his take on it.
Speaker 4: Oh hell yeah.
Speaker 1: So this is in when.
Speaker 5: Part five who the character on screen is the main
Speaker 5: character Joanna?
Speaker 4: So good.
Speaker 1: God damn. It's very video game level.
Speaker 5: But I haven't even got to the best pit yet,
Speaker 5: which is the best part of it.
Speaker 3: Hm.
Speaker 2: I feel like this is a fighting game stage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hm hmm.
Speaker 5: This is This is one of those songs that when
Speaker 5: I heard it, I was like, how did a human
Speaker 5: come up with this?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh, here we go?
Speaker 1: So good? Isn't it?
Speaker 5: Cold and Wind?
Speaker 1: And Jeff? This is the bit where Journal is like
Speaker 1: explaining the gap bad guy's plan to him. Yeah, like, ah,
Speaker 1: I see what you did there. I do miss that.
Speaker 3: I do miss like having schematics displayed in front of me.
Speaker 3: I miss finding out how many centimeters tall everyone is.
Speaker 2: It's just nice to know how toel everyone is buy some.
Speaker 1: This is sick. I think this is the piano bit
Speaker 1: might skip here time.
Speaker 5: Uh yeah.
Speaker 3: So this isn't a theme song. This is just in
Speaker 3: an episode.
Speaker 1: It comes up repeatedly.
Speaker 3: Okay, this is his like.
Speaker 5: Sherlock Mohms moment, whenever he does something that's wild.
Speaker 3: I've got it. This is like the sad Bastard music
Speaker 3: in Berserve's.
Speaker 2: Sad Bastard Music. Oh Dad you yeah, oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, ooh, this is sick.
Speaker 1: At this point, the enemy has probably been aura or
Speaker 1: it is floating into slow motion having their face rocked in.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: This is this is like top tier Jojo music out
Speaker 3: of the Gate.
Speaker 5: I in my all my times of watching anime, I
Speaker 5: think this is one of the best pieces of music
Speaker 5: in anime I've ever heard.
Speaker 1: It's incredible.
Speaker 5: Every meme that you watch from this point on towards
Speaker 5: around Jojo will have this song in it.
Speaker 1: So we stopped where we stopped at the end of
Speaker 1: part four.
Speaker 5: Okay, so I'm gonna keep me the next one. Are
Speaker 5: you gonna carry on?
Speaker 1: Right? I should right?
Speaker 3: Like I should absolutely keep going.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think, oh my god, Part five and like
Speaker 1: part five vend is good, like I like it but
Speaker 1: the anime, I feel like just the adaptation level just
Speaker 1: punches it up even further. And then Part six has
Speaker 1: its issues, but by the end of it it it.
Speaker 1: It hits very hard.
Speaker 3: So I forget now is it over?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: In fact, Part seven is just about to get it
Speaker 1: release okay, and Part nine I gotta keeping Part nine.
Speaker 1: The comic for Part nine has been has been in
Speaker 1: publication for about two years. I think now maybe a
Speaker 1: little less. I'm going to keep going.
Speaker 3: You have my word, you should listener, he continue.
Speaker 1: That's how the lineage will live on, Lucy Tim. If
Speaker 1: you guys were to recommend Jeff any animal.
Speaker 5: One more animal, one more anime.
Speaker 1: What would you leave him with?
Speaker 5: I feel like I could saddle him with anime for
Speaker 5: the rest of his life by just saying one.
Speaker 3: But I feel like that's the one thing that I
Speaker 3: can't embark on.
Speaker 5: So I would like to suggest an anime that you
Speaker 5: specifically watch with Stacy okay, because not because it's like
Speaker 5: a you know, husband wife anime or like a couple's anime,
Speaker 5: but just because I think that the first episode will
Speaker 5: capture her in a way where she'll want to keep
Speaker 5: coming back to know what's going on, and the anime
Speaker 5: is death Note.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, that's such a good entry point. At
Speaker 1: several times just suggest yeah, just.
Speaker 5: Sit down with Stacy and watch the first episode and
Speaker 5: then just see what happens, because I've never recommended that
Speaker 5: to anyone who's been like, yeah, I watch the first episode.
Speaker 5: It's fine. They've always been like, I want to watch
Speaker 5: one more, just to see what the fuck is going on.
Speaker 5: And it's not one of those things where it's like
Speaker 5: it's it's like confusing or hard to understand. It's the
Speaker 5: concept is so good that you're like, oh, I need
Speaker 5: to see how this plays out. It's crazy.
Speaker 3: Fair enough, I'm into it. I will do that Death note.
Speaker 2: Yep, i'd recommend I guess Man.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, chainsaw Man.
Speaker 2: I know a lot of family, you know, Spy Family
Speaker 2: to watch with Stakespy.
Speaker 5: Family is good. Yeah, and de as well, they were like.
Speaker 3: That Spy family.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Spy Family is one with the family chainsaw Man's one. Okay, John, I.
Speaker 3: Give what you're throwing down there. Yeah, I ask you
Speaker 3: for a recommendation to John, but I feel like you've
Speaker 3: already done.
Speaker 1: You've done. I mean, I I got one and it's
Speaker 1: an obvious one. But I feel like at some point,
Speaker 1: if you're anime adjacent, you kind of just need to
Speaker 1: have an opinion on this, and it is, of course
Speaker 1: Neon Genesis Aaron Gillian, Yes, that might be. I. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know that you'll like it, Jeff, but it's
Speaker 1: like my favorite ever.
Speaker 3: Whoa mm hmm, okay.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not my favorite ever, but it's one of
Speaker 5: those like defining of the medium series kind of things where.
Speaker 1: You're like an anime in so many ways. Yes, correct,
Speaker 1: But I would also Jeff, I if Lucy had not
Speaker 1: suggested to change some man, I probably would have because
Speaker 1: I deeply adore that show.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can. Technically, I would say, like, if you
Speaker 5: wanted a vibe check on it, you can file it
Speaker 5: in the same category as One punch Man because it's
Speaker 5: that I would put like Danda Dan as well there,
Speaker 5: which I think he could probably enjoy with how stylistic is.
Speaker 5: But yeah, if you want something one punch Man esque,
Speaker 5: you can go for that. If you want something berserk esque,
Speaker 5: maybe Death Not because it's the darkness of it.
Speaker 2: Oh, if you want something that's very light and pleasant
Speaker 2: and like a nice little adventurous lamp imagine that delicious
Speaker 2: dungeon dungeon MESHI, Oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like, yeah, I thought it took a little
Speaker 1: while time, but when it does it yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: very sweet.
Speaker 3: I also so thank you the three of you. Thank
Speaker 3: you all for your recommendations. I also want to thank
Speaker 3: everyone who has ever reached out and said, hey, you're
Speaker 3: going to dig this or you'll appreciate this now because
Speaker 3: you know about the thing in the show you watched,
Speaker 3: And obviously everyone who's contacted us and attended anything live
Speaker 3: or talked to spread the word and you give us
Speaker 3: a note or review, thank you from the bottom of
Speaker 3: our collective hearts. It's meant a lot, and this has
Speaker 3: been tremendous fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I just want to thank you guys. And
Speaker 1: you know, like I started, we started recording Jeff Jeff's
Speaker 1: not long after Let's Fight a Boss broke up and
Speaker 1: that was like a pretty lonely time for like a
Speaker 1: lot of reasons.
Speaker 7: And then.
Speaker 1: It really meant a lot, like having a kind of
Speaker 1: place to land for that and having like because like
Speaker 1: my job is it's very lonely, you know, like I
Speaker 1: don't talk to people very much, and I really really
Speaker 1: valued being able to just come in here and shoot
Speaker 1: the ship with the three of you, and I will
Speaker 1: really really like not to get corny. I will treasure
Speaker 1: those memories, you know, Like I really will. Hell yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm really really going to miss the ship out of it.
Speaker 1: But I also know that, like this isn't going to
Speaker 1: be the last time that I see you guys, or
Speaker 1: I work with you guys. You know, like I know
Speaker 1: that we're going to do other stuff at some point,
Speaker 1: and like I'm really really looking forward to that.
Speaker 3: Too, Right, I think I think that that's the best part. Right,
Speaker 3: It's just it's just the end of a chapter, right,
Speaker 3: that's all.
Speaker 2: That's all the end of, you know, right, the next
Speaker 2: time we get in new themes.
Speaker 3: It's an end of when one guid in closes another
Speaker 3: opens the saying as as it goes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, I just patrol want to go.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Just particularly want to thank you as well, Tim,
Speaker 1: because you were the first person like in this group
Speaker 1: that approached me and brought me into everything. And I
Speaker 1: have met so many people through that and I will
Speaker 1: never stop being appreciative of that, buddy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think without Tim, there's just absolutely no show. Right, Well, why.
Speaker 1: Am I getting the acclaims for putting this together.
Speaker 5: You did, I don't know you.
Speaker 3: Were the jumping off guy. I definitely remember that, right.
Speaker 1: I remember getting an email from you and like turning
Speaker 1: around to Michelle and being like the lete editor of
Speaker 1: game Spot just emailing me, you know, like.
Speaker 5: I remember always wanting to do something with you that
Speaker 5: was a little more consistent and talk about anime, and
Speaker 5: I was like, how I think if it wasn't this,
Speaker 5: I would have figured out another way of just like
Speaker 5: bringing a few of us together. But this made the
Speaker 5: most sense, and I think at that time it was
Speaker 5: the right place, right hand, because we were looking for
Speaker 5: new ideas, especially for Giant Bomb, and everyone was receptive
Speaker 5: to the idea of bringing in a someone who you know,
Speaker 5: was a YouTuber that we had some awareness of and
Speaker 5: was we knew we would like. I think it was
Speaker 5: just like a a sure fire thing. It was like
Speaker 5: everyone's gonna love John and it will be fascinating, and
Speaker 5: I just worked out I don't remember in the idea
Speaker 5: to you, but I thought it was something that But
Speaker 5: honestly I thought John, you approached us about it. I
Speaker 5: cannot remember us approaching you about.
Speaker 2: Jean to do something that John had like three different ideas,
Speaker 2: and I remember one of them being a wrestling thing,
Speaker 2: and then.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, yes, thank god we didn't do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think you, Tim were the person
Speaker 1: who puts to me that like there to do something
Speaker 1: was space to do something, and then I brought the ideas.
Speaker 1: But without that initial invite, none of the yeah would.
Speaker 5: Have That's that's why I remember it's being like, hey,
Speaker 5: and that was me just being like I wanted selfishly,
Speaker 5: I just wanted to something with this person, So how
Speaker 5: can we make that happen? And this was it? So
Speaker 5: I used giant bomb just to get something I wanted.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think if I knew, I definitely knew
Speaker 3: who you were.
Speaker 1: John.
Speaker 5: I think I had recommended a bunch of his videos
Speaker 5: to you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I had watched a lot.
Speaker 5: I think it was like one of the horror movie
Speaker 5: ones or something like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that that rings a bell. And then you know,
Speaker 3: I wish you would still do more, right, like I
Speaker 3: wish you would you know, pick up the camera again.
Speaker 1: Hey, I just just just put out an hour or
Speaker 1: two hour video. You get that you can chew on
Speaker 1: after a while.
Speaker 5: And also as your book. I got your book as
Speaker 5: well in the mail.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, really got the book?
Speaker 5: Is it came that that same day? That same day
Speaker 5: you messaged me. It came that day, luckily, and it
Speaker 5: fucking rules. It's such a good book and it's so
Speaker 5: nice as a coffee table book. So if you're out
Speaker 5: there and you want a little bit of super ipadchworf
Speaker 5: in your living room, one get this. The quality is
Speaker 5: well worth it. It's such a well made book, easy
Speaker 5: to read, loads of like visual stuff that you'll like
Speaker 5: note down and be like, I want to see more
Speaker 5: of this shit. This is crazy. How do you recommend?
Speaker 1: Thank you guys, tremendous.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know how do we do this? How
Speaker 3: did we just say like, okay, give us goodbye? Like
Speaker 3: I guess that's right, Like what.
Speaker 1: Do we do?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I think that's how you say goodbye?
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, this has been fun, Love you guys, been real.
Speaker 5: Good Bye.
Speaker 3: I'm not crying. You're crying.
Speaker 5: Keep watching anime until next time.
Speaker 2: See you, Space cowboy.
Speaker 4: All right,