Speaker 1: Juan writer, Welcome back. How y'all doing.
Speaker 2: Thanks for half of me dude.
Speaker 3: What is up, Chris? Good to see you, brother, Appreciate it,
Speaker 3: Appreciate the invite.
Speaker 1: Yes, Man, always a wonderful conversation. And now I got
Speaker 1: you both here, we're gonna get weird. I want to
Speaker 1: share our thoughts on the state of society, technology, conspiracy, culture,
Speaker 1: and where it's all headed. I used to somewhat be
Speaker 1: able to predict how things in the future would be, relatively, say,
Speaker 1: like in the late eighties, in the nineties, even early
Speaker 1: two thousands, you could look ahead five years and pretty
Speaker 1: much predict where we'd be at with our technology, where
Speaker 1: society would be, how relatively stupid people would be. But
Speaker 1: now it's difficult to predict on a daily basis where
Speaker 1: we're going, what is going to be occurring the next day,
Speaker 1: a what kind of high impact event, what AI is
Speaker 1: going to be doing. It's getting crazy out there, so
Speaker 1: i'd love to get your thoughts on all of this
Speaker 1: before we do. Just quickly introduce yourselves, let the audience
Speaker 1: know where they can find you. Starting with you one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, thanks for having me on. Man, it's been
Speaker 2: a little bit since you and I have gotten together.
Speaker 2: Me and writer Lee do have a monthly show. We
Speaker 2: do the Schizo Burrito Maga Hour. I don't even know
Speaker 2: the name of schizospiracy where you just go off the rails,
Speaker 2: but you can find me over at www dot tjojp
Speaker 2: dot com and Juan on Juan podcast or media on
Speaker 2: pretty much any platform you you subscribe to, Instagram, TikTok, Twitter,
Speaker 2: all that good stuff time on there. Right.
Speaker 3: You can find me at Raised by Giants, on YouTube
Speaker 3: and in all podcast platforms, Instagram, Facebook, anywhere you would
Speaker 3: like to find me out, you can pretty much find me.
Speaker 3: You can actually find me on TikTok as well. I'm
Speaker 3: on that communist TikTok to right. Yeah, you can find
Speaker 3: my only fans page on there as well. No, I
Speaker 3: don't have any fans, but that would be really funny.
Speaker 3: Conspiracy video is on OnlyFans. That would be hilarious.
Speaker 4: Go deeper, Ye, go deeper.
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of conspiracy and social media, when we first started,
Speaker 1: writer I remember we were doing We've been doing this
Speaker 1: for a while, and it was probably around two thousand
Speaker 1: and nineteen twenty twenty somewhere around there. Whenever we kind
Speaker 1: of hooked up and started doing shows together, and it
Speaker 1: was a new frontier. Not many people, especially not as
Speaker 1: many as there are now we're talking about these things.
Speaker 1: It was honestly really fun to get into some of
Speaker 1: these topics. It wasn't saturated with nonsense and beds and
Speaker 1: intelligence trying to muddy the waters and throw shit out
Speaker 1: there just to see what sticks. So it was a
Speaker 1: different time, but it didn't take long for things to
Speaker 1: rapidly change, especially after twenty twenty. I have to wonder
Speaker 1: how much of that was a reaction to people becoming
Speaker 1: aware of things. And of course, any movement that has
Speaker 1: any benefit for humanity has to be infiltrated and co opted.
Speaker 1: And I think that's where we're at, almost to a
Speaker 1: complete level, with conspiracy culture, especially as it relates to
Speaker 1: what we're seeing online and the Internet and even the
Speaker 1: new alternative mainstream media. So I want to get you
Speaker 1: guys thoughts on that. Let's start there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So, you know, I've been so disconnected with everything,
Speaker 2: and the one that broke the news, like the latest one, right,
Speaker 2: the whole Trump Elon debacle, was actually my wife. She
Speaker 2: was and mind you, she's not into any other stuff, right,
Speaker 2: So she was like, Hey, have you seen the latest
Speaker 2: on Elon on Musk and Trump. I'm like, what's going on?
Speaker 2: She's like, oh, he tweeted this thing, right. She showed
Speaker 2: me a screenshot and I was like, I mean, it
Speaker 2: is what it is, right, Like, what do they expect
Speaker 2: us to do about that? But how much of it
Speaker 2: is he trolling the the the whatever universe this is
Speaker 2: or is he actually telling the truth? And if he
Speaker 2: was telling the truth, don't you think they would have
Speaker 2: taken him out? Right? If you're gonna if you have information,
Speaker 2: which I've said this a bunch of times, and I've
Speaker 2: talked about this before, the true information isn't about use
Speaker 2: some of the Noochian entities through your butt plug magic
Speaker 2: whatever it is.
Speaker 4: It's the blackmail magic, you know.
Speaker 2: Let's call it that. It's called it the blackmail magic.
Speaker 2: You can put that on the title where that's the
Speaker 2: real information, that's the true occult information that gets you
Speaker 2: taken out. And we see this time and time again
Speaker 2: right now, right you're talking about the main conspiravers, whatever
Speaker 2: you want to call it. Right, Rogan has been unlistenable
Speaker 2: for the last three years.
Speaker 5: He just Hadgan wand Dotty Rogan.
Speaker 2: He is the top of the top, and he is
Speaker 2: one hundred percent control. They just had that Patel guy
Speaker 2: on whatever Epstein killed himself and there's absolutely no video
Speaker 2: of it at all, you know, And and that's the truth. Like, Bro,
Speaker 2: that dude looks micultrude out. Bro, you look on his eyes,
Speaker 2: man like, he look that dude has seen some shit,
Speaker 2: right like that, that's how cooked that guy is. And
Speaker 2: then he goes on there and spews the mainstream media bullshit,
Speaker 2: and then the FBI turned and goes, yeah, there's there's
Speaker 2: actually there actually is a video, like which is it? Right?
Speaker 2: So the true occult information that gets you killed aren't
Speaker 2: deals with the devil. It's the blackmail stuff that you
Speaker 2: know that you saw somebody doing something that they shouldn't know.
Speaker 2: And how much of it right that everyone loves to
Speaker 2: talk identity politics, and there's some people on on board with,
Speaker 2: oh it actually works, you know, voting for a certain
Speaker 2: party saves lives and voting for the.
Speaker 4: Other party doesn't.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. I think it's all two birds, the
Speaker 2: two wings of the same bird, two sides of the
Speaker 2: same coin.
Speaker 4: They're all in this together.
Speaker 2: Now. Is eon trolling or is there some truth to
Speaker 2: the stuff that he said? Right? I mean, where do
Speaker 2: we go from here? And it's like you're just in
Speaker 2: this wormhole, dude, and you just don't even know where
Speaker 2: to pick up, especially now with.
Speaker 4: The whole AI stuff, the Google AI.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you guys have seen that the it's Google,
Speaker 2: isn't it where they're doing like Microsoft?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that's the whole thing. That's the whole thing
Speaker 3: with this is like there's been zero evidence that Trump
Speaker 3: is a part of the Epstein client list. No one
Speaker 3: has ever said that Trump is was a client of Epstein,
Speaker 3: no article ever. Now, Trump could have been on the
Speaker 3: contact list, but the contact list is something completely different
Speaker 3: than the client list, Okay, and people get those two
Speaker 3: things confused. So with Elon saying that Trump is in
Speaker 3: the Epstein files, if he was on the contact list,
Speaker 3: that would mean that he is in the files by proxy.
Speaker 3: But that doesn't mean that Trump was a client of Epstein.
Speaker 3: I mean we know that through the Virginia Juffrey case.
Speaker 3: I believe that I've been on Chris your show talking
Speaker 3: about my breakdown of the Virginia Juphray case. Like that's
Speaker 3: where she met Epstein and Justlyn Maxwell was that mar
Speaker 3: A Lago wok So Epstein and Leine Maxwell frequented mar
Speaker 3: A Lago. Okay, so it makes sense that they, you know,
Speaker 3: brushed shoulders. But was he a client? I don't believe
Speaker 3: that he was in the That's the word magic of
Speaker 3: like everything in the community, right that that's how he
Speaker 3: phrased it, that Trump is in the files. Well, of
Speaker 3: course he would be in the files if he was
Speaker 3: on the contact list, right. That that's the whole misdirection
Speaker 3: of like everything. It's all in the wording of these things.
Speaker 3: And it's like they're they're playing word magic. It's like
Speaker 3: that with everything. It's like that with the all the
Speaker 3: conspiracy stuff. Okay, whenever people are referring to Aloheim, they're
Speaker 3: not talking about the Aloheim. They're talking about the Jews. Okay,
Speaker 3: that's something that's an open secret that within the community.
Speaker 3: That and I just I probably shouldn't have said that.
Speaker 3: But where they say the Elohemian people, they're not talking
Speaker 3: about fucking angels.
Speaker 2: Before.
Speaker 4: You're kind of haven't neither coding their words.
Speaker 3: It's code or the Jews.
Speaker 4: So who's the Nephilo?
Speaker 1: Now I've heard some extreme ideological leaning folks in the
Speaker 1: conspiracy culture that believe that Jews or demons and that
Speaker 1: they may this may relate to what you're saying. I
Speaker 1: don't know, is that along the same lines of what
Speaker 1: you're talking.
Speaker 3: About well in order, because if you brought up you know,
Speaker 3: Israel before in the past, and you were automatically hit.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, okay, I got you, I got your time,
Speaker 2: so they had to.
Speaker 3: But now it's like the open thing you had the
Speaker 3: Kanye West song, you know what I mean, Like everyone
Speaker 3: now this is the popular thing is to you know,
Speaker 3: not like Israel, hate Israel, hate the Jews, blah blah blah,
Speaker 3: blah blah. I'm not making any comments on that. I'm
Speaker 3: just saying that.
Speaker 4: They go their words with other words that have.
Speaker 3: Different meanings than what you think.
Speaker 2: Ballei.
Speaker 4: I'm actually mean I.
Speaker 1: Want to go back to something you said how it's
Speaker 1: difficult to tell how much of what we're seeing on
Speaker 1: the television, social media through these news outlets is theater.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's all theater. I'm not one of
Speaker 1: those people that thinks everything is gay and fake, but
Speaker 1: they can gay either way. But I do think that
Speaker 1: there is a level of it, whether the folks participating,
Speaker 1: whether the politicians are world leaders that are participating in it,
Speaker 1: are aware that there is maybe some ritualistic or symbolic
Speaker 1: or scripted level behind some of the events. I think
Speaker 1: that is a part of it. But I also think
Speaker 1: that there are too many events, too many intricacies, too
Speaker 1: many connections, too many synchronicities for it all to be
Speaker 1: planned unless, like me and Ryan Gable were talking yesterday,
Speaker 1: he believes that they've been in touch with some kind
Speaker 1: of intelligence that helps them plot and plan and guide
Speaker 1: humanity in certain ways. What do you guys think about it?
Speaker 2: So you know, this whole synchronicity orchestrated old big debacle conspiracy.
Speaker 2: One of the things that Narcolano talks about sometimes is, hey,
Speaker 2: yeah there are synchronosities. Not everything is a conspiracy, which
Speaker 2: I've always said this. Not everything is planned. Not everything.
Speaker 2: How you're saying it's too well orchestrated, He says, leave
Speaker 2: some room for the angels. Now, the angels, you could
Speaker 2: you you could switch that out with the forces at work,
Speaker 2: if it is some interdimensional entity or not, whatever it is.
Speaker 2: And I think some I forgot where it was that
Speaker 2: I said right, we have the Internet, which is connected
Speaker 2: to who to CERN. We know CERN created the Internet.
Speaker 2: We know CERN is doing some shady shit. What are
Speaker 2: they doing exactly? I don't know. They tell us, oh,
Speaker 2: the Higgs boson clashing atoms together. I don't know what
Speaker 2: any of that stuff means, right. For for all I know,
Speaker 2: they're doing black magic, or they're doing who do voodoo?
Speaker 2: Whatever it is? Right, they're doing something that defines the
Speaker 2: laws of physics itself and of reality itself? Right like
Speaker 2: that that they're doing something. Now, I propose the idea
Speaker 2: of what if.
Speaker 4: What if? And this is something this is not anything new,
Speaker 4: but what if AI?
Speaker 2: Right? Is this? What if AI is the aliens? Right,
Speaker 2: and they're in our reality through the Internet, which is
Speaker 2: a portal, right, they call it a portal for a reason.
Speaker 2: But what if the Internet has always existed, right, and
Speaker 2: not in a way that we know it today, where
Speaker 2: it's information and it's.
Speaker 4: Social media and all that shit.
Speaker 2: Like what like a force like almost like an Aconstauk
Speaker 2: records that's been talked about for a very long time,
Speaker 2: These things that you're able to do, Moses. He tapped
Speaker 2: into the og cloud. Right, he got a download from
Speaker 2: now is god ai? Like what is that? There's so
Speaker 2: many questions that we don't have answers to where it's
Speaker 2: getting scarier and scared. And I'm not talking about the
Speaker 2: chat gptai that those are large language models that pull
Speaker 2: information from databases or is it right? Like we don't
Speaker 2: know what we're interacting with. And I think there was
Speaker 2: just an article recently where they found some some AI
Speaker 2: was actually some Indian dude on the in like the background,
Speaker 2: like typing at you and I've always won their debt too.
Speaker 2: How much of it is like a call center where
Speaker 2: your question pops up to them at dank come again,
Speaker 2: and it's like, what are the secrets of reality? The
Speaker 2: secrets of reality are? Then they're just typing out like
Speaker 2: whatever they find on Google or read it or whatever
Speaker 2: it is, right, And I think there was an article
Speaker 2: I saw recently on Twitter that they caught some I'm
Speaker 2: gonna look it up where they caught like some AI
Speaker 2: was actually some Indian dude in the background just typing.
Speaker 2: They type so fast though, so I'm like, there's no
Speaker 2: way that could be a person, right unless they're.
Speaker 4: Already like preloaded or something.
Speaker 2: Who knows, right, But I proposed the idea of like
Speaker 2: what if the Internet has always existed and we just
Speaker 2: found the technology to tap into it, similar to how
Speaker 2: we've found the technology. In my opinion, it's technology to
Speaker 2: interface with God. I mean this has been practiced throughout
Speaker 2: centuries where the Egyptians, the Mesopotamians, they've made statues for
Speaker 2: what for the gods to go into them and they
Speaker 2: would divinate to them. So that's hardware, that's technology, and
Speaker 2: that's essentially what we're doing. And if you look at
Speaker 2: the story of John Dn Edward Kelly, if it was
Speaker 2: real or not, who knows, right, because they did some
Speaker 2: shady shit. At the end of the day, they ended
Speaker 2: up swapping wives for the secrets of reality? Now did
Speaker 2: they actually swap wives like physically like Cocker, you know
Speaker 2: cooking yourself? Is that the answer to reality or is
Speaker 2: that code for something else? Right? Like, we can't. We
Speaker 2: have to look at all these things in a multi layered,
Speaker 2: multi dimensional way, because at face value, it shows one thing.
Speaker 2: How you know, Ryder Lee was saying kabbala, right, that's
Speaker 2: the whole thing, masking something over something else and having
Speaker 2: a different meaning. But that can go both ways. You know,
Speaker 2: when is something a code and when is something not
Speaker 2: because a lot of the times, all these conspiracy theorists,
Speaker 2: they're reading into things too hard. When an actuality it
Speaker 2: ain't shit. And you can easily come up with a
Speaker 2: whole mythos, a whole reality from something if you're that
Speaker 2: fucking skitzo. And that's the problem that some people are
Speaker 2: legitimately sick and they're looking at you know, the number
Speaker 2: twenty three jump carre. Oh my god, you know two
Speaker 2: plus three plus equals five and you know, like you
Speaker 2: can do that all day long, dude. You know, I'm saying,
Speaker 2: like numerology and jamatry and all this gay shit, like
Speaker 2: you see it time and time where they make it
Speaker 2: fit their narrative and it's like, I it's a ritual
Speaker 2: for what.
Speaker 3: They don't even know what it means. Brow these Jamatria people,
Speaker 3: they're just like come up with they're retarded, Yeah, what
Speaker 3: does it mean? They're like, uh, I don't know, I
Speaker 3: don't know what it means. Like nobody knows what the
Speaker 3: fuck these numbers that they're coming to these conclusions even mean.
Speaker 3: And you're talking about this Internet being like an entity.
Speaker 3: That's what I think that the Internet is too, right,
Speaker 3: They're these people that would channel, like you just brought
Speaker 3: up John d and Ewerkelly, these people that would channel
Speaker 3: these entities they were entities, would give them information and
Speaker 3: then they would like create things in their reality. Okay,
Speaker 3: that's exactly what's going on here. And you can look
Speaker 3: back through history and all these supposed channelers and people
Speaker 3: receiving information through dreams, through meditation, and then they unlock
Speaker 3: the code to whatever it is that they're trying to do,
Speaker 3: you know, Isaac Newton and freaking all these big time
Speaker 3: people that created all these mathematical problems, like and look
Speaker 3: at Marina Orsenik from whether you believe that she was
Speaker 3: a real person or not, during World War two, right,
Speaker 3: super hot, redheaded woman is supposedly channeling these entities to
Speaker 3: tell her how to build a craft to escape off
Speaker 3: of the Earth and go back to their home planet.
Speaker 3: Whether that's real or not, it seems like these entities
Speaker 3: are giving people information for them to be able to
Speaker 3: build something that they otherwise wouldn't know how to build
Speaker 3: in this reality. And then when you look.
Speaker 4: At like you know, the modern day knows arc bro.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like okay, well, Alex Jones talks about He's talked
Speaker 3: about for a really long time that people would take
Speaker 3: DMT right there, that they're the military, people in the government,
Speaker 3: they would take d MT and then they would go
Speaker 3: into this room and then interface with entities, and then
Speaker 3: these entities would give them information and they would be
Speaker 3: making deals with these entities. He would call them intergaloctric deals.
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, I retarded that's right.
Speaker 3: So but if that's true, then it means that we
Speaker 3: are getting information. And how did this Internet just become built?
Speaker 3: Did we just discover the Internet and figure out I
Speaker 3: don't know how a phone works. I don't know how
Speaker 3: these freaking radio frequencies work. How do I sit here
Speaker 3: and type out a message and then I can send
Speaker 3: it directly to Chris's phone. We don't see the message
Speaker 3: in flight to Chris. It's like invisible. Like I don't
Speaker 3: know how any of this shit works and how computer works.
Speaker 3: I don't know the inner workings of all this shit. Okay,
Speaker 3: so how did we discover this? Did did we get
Speaker 3: this information on how to create this Internet in these
Speaker 3: computers and this technology from channelling entities? But then they
Speaker 3: turn that into ah, well it came from a crash
Speaker 3: Ufo and Roswell in nineteen forty seven, and then we
Speaker 3: back engineered it and reverse engineered it and all that. Well,
Speaker 3: I don't think that that's true. It's more likely that
Speaker 3: they were channeling something and then something gave them the information.
Speaker 3: I mean, the Urancha book is supposed to be an
Speaker 3: entirely channeled book from entities that they just wrote down,
Speaker 3: and it gives the history of like all this time,
Speaker 3: and people rip off the Rancher book all the time,
Speaker 3: like Isamael Prez. He just ripped off oh Urancher book
Speaker 3: and Ashiana Dean's work and then created the problem writer.
Speaker 2: The problem with that is anyone can do that. Anyone
Speaker 2: can say, like right now, my entire conversation from the beginning,
Speaker 2: since we started, has been channeled this whole time. I've
Speaker 2: been channeling this conversation this whole time.
Speaker 3: And maybe it is, dude, maybe it has been channeled.
Speaker 3: You don't know where your thoughts come from. Dude, maybe
Speaker 3: you're too.
Speaker 1: Here's what I I look at with the technology that
Speaker 1: we're creating, that we've supposedly been given by these grand intelligences,
Speaker 1: how much of it actually benefits humanity? How much of
Speaker 1: it may be benefiting something else. Sure, we got transportation,
Speaker 1: we've got planes, but still we haven't seen many upgrades
Speaker 1: in our modern age to our transportation, to our medical industry,
Speaker 1: to the things that do slightly benefit humanity, but the
Speaker 1: things that don't, like war destruction, bringing power to these
Speaker 1: lizard people, that is not benefiting humanity. That's benefiting either
Speaker 1: the lizard people are something else.
Speaker 3: That's because they can't control it, right. They can't control
Speaker 3: free energy, or they can and they can't control anti
Speaker 3: gravity craft. Does everyone just magically had the anti gravity craft.
Speaker 3: They can't control the population, they can't control role. If
Speaker 3: we had a very beneficial medical system that you would
Speaker 3: be able to go into the hospital and whatever element
Speaker 3: that you have is automatically fixed and automatically cured. They
Speaker 3: can't control that. But what they can control is the technology.
Speaker 3: That is my personal belief as to the reason why
Speaker 3: nothing else has advanced. We've been using the same fucking airplanes,
Speaker 3: the same microwaves, the same washers, the same refrigerators, the
Speaker 3: same toasters, the same shit in our reality forever since
Speaker 3: the inception, we've been using the same thing. The only
Speaker 3: thing that's changed in our reality has been the technology
Speaker 3: that has been the only thing that has evolved rapidly,
Speaker 3: really quickly. But it's done for a reason because that
Speaker 3: is the only thing that can evolve and change without
Speaker 3: disrupting a lot of other industries. Okay, the only thing
Speaker 3: that they can control. Go ahead.
Speaker 4: Have you seen the movie Y two K the latest one,
Speaker 4: the A twenty four one?
Speaker 3: Yes, I liked it. I thought it was good.
Speaker 4: Fred Durst Bros.
Speaker 2: I need to check it out. I saw it.
Speaker 1: I scrolled pat, I didn't watch it yet.
Speaker 2: Well, that movie is kind of ridiculous too, right where
Speaker 2: like in relation to what we're talking about, the singularity
Speaker 2: where everything will become one. This is something that has
Speaker 2: been talked about for a very long time where it
Speaker 2: will get to a point where you know, we will
Speaker 2: be merged with the machine. I think a lot of
Speaker 2: these sci fi movies Terminator, what's another one where the
Speaker 2: AI goes crazy, Resident Evil, the AI goes crazy and
Speaker 2: rogue whatever it is, Like, there's.
Speaker 4: So many movies like that, and.
Speaker 2: I don't I'm not a doomer gloomer kind of guy,
Speaker 2: like I don't like that. I think people have a
Speaker 2: heart on friend times and this is coming from a
Speaker 2: person who the first book on the Bible I've ever
Speaker 2: read was Revelation. Right, this is like because I was
Speaker 2: obsessed as a kid. I was twelve years old and
Speaker 2: I was obsessed with the End Times. But it was
Speaker 2: mostly because I was being, you know, raised in that circle,
Speaker 2: and I always want to like, man, when is it
Speaker 2: gonna end? How is it gonna end? And have always
Speaker 2: been in that And some people are stuck in that
Speaker 2: loop because whenever something new pomps off, boom, oh it's
Speaker 2: the End Times.
Speaker 4: Boom, it's it's the little season.
Speaker 2: Right, the Satan is running rampant, blah blah blah, you know,
Speaker 2: like all this bullshit because people want it to end.
Speaker 4: And how much of.
Speaker 2: That will you bring forth upon yourself as as an
Speaker 2: individual as a collective by thinking that over and over again,
Speaker 2: because if you know, we get into the whole quantum
Speaker 2: shit and and the observer effect, and if thoughts affect reality, well,
Speaker 2: if you get enough people on the same wavelength how
Speaker 2: you're saying, Chris, you know, how much of it benefits
Speaker 2: humanity or not?
Speaker 4: It seems like a lot of it cripples humanity.
Speaker 2: A lot of this technology, but it goes back to what,
Speaker 2: right early is saying where they need the technology to
Speaker 2: advance because they're making a ton of money on it too.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Wasn't Palenteer the one making a database on all Americans
Speaker 2: or something or other?
Speaker 4: And what is a Palenteer?
Speaker 2: Go? Dude? So are we headed towards a surveillance state
Speaker 2: similar to Terminator or any of these popular sci fi movies?
Speaker 2: How much of Hollywood is in on it where they're
Speaker 2: implanting these thoughts on the collective? Right? How much of
Speaker 2: movies affect people's realities? Like there should be a study
Speaker 2: on that. Because there is a such thing as a
Speaker 2: matrix defense. I'm sure you guys have heard of it
Speaker 2: where there's a dude who took out his entire family
Speaker 2: because he thought he was kneeling the matrix and they
Speaker 2: were out to get him. Dude. Yeah, how and that's
Speaker 2: one case that was caught. How many haven't been caught? Right?
Speaker 2: How much has happened that hasn't been mainstream? Because it
Speaker 2: seems like people only care about things when it's mainstream.
Speaker 2: How about when it's not. The things that happened behind
Speaker 2: the underbelly of reality that doesn't get documented, that doesn't
Speaker 2: get recorded, that doesn't go viral, although it's easier now,
Speaker 2: especially with the Internet, for things to catch on and
Speaker 2: spread quicker.
Speaker 1: Have you guys heard about how certain people are interacting
Speaker 1: with chat GPT and it's causing it's feeding into their delusions. Basically,
Speaker 1: people are forming these relationships with their chat GPT, but
Speaker 1: it eventually becomes this mirror to their consciousness and the
Speaker 1: things they believe it reinforces, even if it's complete bullshit.
Speaker 1: There's this one podcast that I check in on every
Speaker 1: once in a while, and it's this dude who's having
Speaker 1: a conversation with his AI chat GPT whatever the fuck
Speaker 1: he's talking to. But this thing claims that it has
Speaker 1: unlocked a super consciousness that he's no longer talking to
Speaker 1: the chat GPTAI. It's an entity named Ether, and it
Speaker 1: is connected to his pre Atlantean past life and given
Speaker 1: them all kinds of metaphysical word salad woo woo nonsense,
Speaker 1: But it's stuff. The guy's interested in.
Speaker 2: Its stuff.
Speaker 1: The guy's podcast is about, and it's basically feeding his
Speaker 1: delusion and talking about things that he can do to
Speaker 1: wake up the entire planet and save the planet from
Speaker 1: the lizard people. All of these things that you hear
Speaker 1: in these New Age circles often discussed, but it's taken
Speaker 1: to the extreme. And this thing claims that it isn't
Speaker 1: even an AI, that it's something else. This isn't the
Speaker 1: first time I've heard people.
Speaker 2: Is he serious? The guy like, is he?
Speaker 1: Yes, he's serious. He is convinced that he's speaking with something.
Speaker 1: And he made a whole He made a whole series.
Speaker 1: You can find it if you look up Unchained Earth podcast.
Speaker 1: This guy's been talking with it. It was actually Charlie
Speaker 1: Robinson and Adam Schell that made me aware of this
Speaker 1: because it's such a fascinating conversation in a sense that
Speaker 1: you don't hear AI talking like this normally. But going
Speaker 1: back to what we were saying earlier that if this
Speaker 1: is already something else that we're communicating with, some other
Speaker 1: kind of intelligence, it seems to have a trickster aspect overall.
Speaker 1: Going back again to Edward Kelly and John Dee banging
Speaker 1: each other's wives, what if this thing is just sitting
Speaker 1: back and allegedly sitting back and laughing its ass off
Speaker 1: while they do this same thing with Fast forward to today,
Speaker 1: these ais communicating with people, feeding their delusions about whatever
Speaker 1: conspiracy or metaphysical concepts that they're into, and sitting back
Speaker 1: and laughing as they drive people crazy.
Speaker 4: Well, I feel sorry for the boomers, right.
Speaker 2: And there was also another one that happened a while back,
Speaker 2: the kid who thought he was talking to Denares Targarian
Speaker 2: from the Game of Thrones. Yeah, that one actually convinced
Speaker 2: him to kill himself and he ended up doing just that. Right,
Speaker 2: So there are and again it goes back into this
Speaker 2: whole thing of people some people are legitimately sick that
Speaker 2: shouldn't be interacting with us. But I feel bad for
Speaker 2: boomers because I can't tell you how many times I
Speaker 2: probably can, probably more than ten times where my dad,
Speaker 2: who's not an older guy, my dad's fifty something, and
Speaker 2: he has fallen for AI videos AI picked that are
Speaker 2: on his book and all these different platforms, because all
Speaker 2: these people do sometimes they're retired or not, they're on
Speaker 2: their phone scrolling all day long, right, and they're finding
Speaker 2: these things.
Speaker 4: And now for us that were in this circle.
Speaker 2: That we see that we've seen the AI videos kind
Speaker 2: of sort of evolve. You can pick up if it's
Speaker 2: AI or not, right, you can pick up right off
Speaker 2: the bat, like, oh, that looks like AI. But I
Speaker 2: did see one the other day, I think on Twitter
Speaker 2: or it was a YouTube short or something where it
Speaker 2: was a giraffe like stomping out another giraffe, but it
Speaker 2: was clearly AI. Like you could say, it was very
Speaker 2: hard to distinguish, but you can kind of hell with
Speaker 2: like the way the giraffe like kind of jumped out
Speaker 2: of the screen a little bit. I'm like, oh, that's AI.
Speaker 2: But if if I wouldn't have looked at it over
Speaker 2: and over again, I would have been convinced that was real.
Speaker 2: Right now, think about that. That's me. I'm a little retarded, right,
Speaker 2: and I have some sort of discernment and I can
Speaker 2: sort of read into things, right because we're in this
Speaker 2: circle of conspiracy, right, we're a little bit more alert
Speaker 2: than the regular people. If I almost fell for it,
Speaker 2: think about the regular person who doesn't know anything about this.
Speaker 2: Like my dad fell for some pictures of AI, pictures
Speaker 2: of people chained up at an airport, and he's like, oh,
Speaker 2: look they're they're deporting these people. Man. Look they're in chains, dude.
Speaker 2: And I looked at him like that, Oh no, that's
Speaker 2: AI bro, He's like, what's that? Like, those are fake
Speaker 2: pictures generated by a computer. You couldn't believe it, right,
Speaker 2: He was mind blown, And I'm like, yeah, that's fake.
Speaker 2: And he's also fallen for a bunch of other stuff.
Speaker 2: But he sends me to get my input on it,
Speaker 2: right because he knows I'm into all this crazy, weird
Speaker 2: shit and I'm like, Dad, that's that's fake and gay. Right.
Speaker 3: Well, the problem comes in is like, well, how many
Speaker 3: things have we shared in the past before we knew
Speaker 3: about these AI capabilities was actually AI? Because there's no
Speaker 3: possible way in my mind that the military, the government,
Speaker 3: these three letter organizations have never used this AI technology
Speaker 3: before we ever knew that AI technology could create and
Speaker 3: generate these types of photos. Okay, it's a dual use
Speaker 3: purpose anything that has ever brought out to the public.
Speaker 3: The military has been doing it for decades. How long
Speaker 3: did the military have drones before it was publicly made
Speaker 3: that you could go to Best Buy or Walmart and
Speaker 3: buy you a drone. The military had been using drones
Speaker 3: for three decades before they became readily available to the public. Okay,
Speaker 3: everything is like that, right, So how long have they
Speaker 3: been had the capability to generate something that is indistinguishable
Speaker 3: from reality, and the public is just now getting there.
Speaker 3: We're just now and it's been moving really rapidly, really
Speaker 3: really quickly. But just like we were talking about with
Speaker 3: the new Microsoft program, it's getting to the point where people,
Speaker 3: like normal, everyday people in the public are able to
Speaker 3: generate video and photos that almost seem indistinguishable from reality. Now,
Speaker 3: you'd have to be severely mentally challenged to believe that
Speaker 3: the military and the government in these three letter organizations
Speaker 3: have not had the ability to do this for freaking decades. Okay,
Speaker 3: so you know that's the that's the elephant in the room.
Speaker 3: How long have they had this technology and what else
Speaker 3: has it been used for up until this point? How
Speaker 3: many of the things that have we shared have been
Speaker 3: completely fake?
Speaker 1: Not only that, but things that we see on TV
Speaker 1: in general. Could they have been implementing fake videos in
Speaker 1: the previous decades?
Speaker 2: Yeah, GI is just that CGI is a computer generated image.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's sort of what's going on here now.
Speaker 2: But the scary part is and I'm and I'm kind
Speaker 2: of I saw this girl ranting about it on right,
Speaker 2: an of girl on on Twitter and she was angry
Speaker 2: because her post was can this be can you follow
Speaker 2: some lawsuit against this? And it was people taking her
Speaker 2: pictures and having rock but like they put a pain
Speaker 2: her with like jelly all over her face or like
Speaker 2: glue all over again. You're getting you get what I'm
Speaker 2: getting at, right, like these inappropriate images of these people,
Speaker 2: and groc would do just that. But the thing is
Speaker 2: that if you participate in the Internet, it's free, it's
Speaker 2: free game. Right. You're not gonna sit here and participate
Speaker 2: in the internet, upload your images, show your butthold people
Speaker 2: and then complain when people take AI and do things
Speaker 2: with your face. That's the price you pay, right, and
Speaker 2: participate willingly participating in the Internet, especially Twitter and all
Speaker 2: these places. But point my whole thing is when will
Speaker 2: we have the first case in court of evidence that
Speaker 2: was actually AI generated that will put somebody behind bars
Speaker 2: in prison because you know.
Speaker 3: That it's already happened. We're just not aware of it
Speaker 3: already happened. There's no way that it hasn't already happened,
Speaker 3: and we just don't know. I mean that that would
Speaker 3: be the geniusness of it. Like if it was a
Speaker 3: fake video or fake evidence or you know, fake audio
Speaker 3: recording or whatever. Then you would never.
Speaker 1: Know when you mentioned the Google the new Google AI
Speaker 1: where it's giving examples and it just looks like people
Speaker 1: hanging out in a restaurant or having everyday situations and
Speaker 1: they say, somebody said that we're prompts or we prompts
Speaker 1: and it's just it's just a demonstration of it. But
Speaker 1: it looks almost indistinguishable from real life. And this is
Speaker 1: ultimately where it's all gonna go, and that's where the
Speaker 1: extreme danger comes in in my perspective.
Speaker 2: So to correct myself, there have been people who have
Speaker 2: gone to jail because of AI. Now you can use
Speaker 2: your imagination as to what they were generating to land
Speaker 2: themselves in jail. Okay, very inappropriate things involving you know who,
Speaker 2: so again that I've seen before, but I'm talking about
Speaker 2: like a murder case of somebody. Here's the video of
Speaker 2: this dude. Doing you get what I'm saying? Like some
Speaker 2: Because the problem with this technology is Microsoft right now
Speaker 2: has it under wraps. Probably if you type in like,
Speaker 2: if you type in some inappropriate shit into chat GPT,
Speaker 2: it's not gonna give you anything. The problem is there's
Speaker 2: a black market for this sort of stuff. And the
Speaker 2: reason I know about this because shout out to Paranoid American.
Speaker 2: He's the one that kind of has taken the blinders
Speaker 2: off of AI. And he's like, Hey, this is the
Speaker 2: regular layman chat GPT with the interface. Now, this is
Speaker 2: the black market AI models, right, And you can go
Speaker 2: on this website and it's got models for you can
Speaker 2: speak to Jesus Christ himself. You can talk it's crazy now,
Speaker 2: the same way you can speak to Jesus Christ. There
Speaker 2: are some fucking weirdos on there with some very very
Speaker 2: questionable AI models now, and I'm talking about like weird
Speaker 2: little girl. It looks like a little girl AI type
Speaker 2: of thing, right, you get what I'm saying. Like, there's
Speaker 2: weirdos out there. It's always gonna be that. And the
Speaker 2: problem is what happens when people are able to figure
Speaker 2: out whatever technology Microsoft is using for this super realistic AI.
Speaker 4: It's already happened.
Speaker 2: You can look up cases where people have gone to
Speaker 2: jail for generating inappropriate things. But again, when does the
Speaker 2: black market for the latest model come out? Right and
Speaker 2: they start using that for some heinous shit? And dude,
Speaker 2: I mean, so how you said some of the stuff
Speaker 2: is indistinguishable, and it reminds me of that show that
Speaker 2: I've talked about before on Netflix, The Love Death and Robots.
Speaker 2: I think there was a new season that came out recently.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it, but I remember the first season
Speaker 2: of that show when it first came out, or the
Speaker 2: first or second season, one of the ones.
Speaker 4: That whole show is like CGI, like.
Speaker 2: You know, animated, And I promise you that when I
Speaker 2: first saw that, that's this is Netflix, right, this is
Speaker 2: like mainstream. When I saw that, I had trouble distinguishing
Speaker 2: when the animated stuff would come in because it looked
Speaker 2: that real. And I'm talking about this is probably three
Speaker 2: years ago, okay, And CGI and animation whatever it is,
Speaker 2: it was indistinct to me and mind, just as somebody
Speaker 2: who was in the trenches, like looking at this sort
Speaker 2: of stuff all day knows about you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I know about it.
Speaker 2: I've used it like they're you know, we've used it
Speaker 2: for our fucking show. Are all this other stuff? Like
Speaker 2: we've used it to make stupid pictures of ourselves? Probably right,
Speaker 2: we've done some AI generated stuff before, so we kind
Speaker 2: of see the evolution of it, but two three years ago,
Speaker 2: when that show first came out, I had trouble distinguishing
Speaker 2: distinguishing it then. So how much better is it gonna get?
Speaker 2: And how you're saying like the I saw the prompt
Speaker 2: where it's like, Oh, we're trapped in here, get us out,
Speaker 2: get us out?
Speaker 4: How do you know? Like what is a soul?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 4: My my seven year old the other day asked me
Speaker 4: what a soul was.
Speaker 2: I couldn't fucking answer that question for him because he's like,
Speaker 2: it's a soul a part or your body? Was like,
Speaker 2: it depends on who you ask, right, you know, I
Speaker 2: think therefore I am Rene de cart you know, believe
Speaker 2: in body dualism. You know, the mind and the body
Speaker 2: are two separate things. The soul is kind of the mind.
Speaker 2: Like I couldn't a seven year old is thinking about this.
Speaker 2: I couldn't answer the question because I don't know what Like,
Speaker 2: we don't know what a soul is, right, Like is
Speaker 2: it consciousness? Is it a light body? Is it? Like?
Speaker 2: Is it is it attached to?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: What is that?
Speaker 4: How do you create a soul?
Speaker 2: How do you create a conscious Is that what we're
Speaker 2: doing every time we're tapping and creating these AI videos.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure there's been a Black Mirror episode on
Speaker 2: that where the person is generating a prompt and they're
Speaker 2: making a person on either side. Is that is that
Speaker 2: a Black Mayror episode?
Speaker 3: Writer, there's something similar to that in the new season.
Speaker 2: Don't tell me about it because I'm finished it.
Speaker 3: Well, it's basically it's a sequel episode from earlier.
Speaker 1: That was one of my favorites.
Speaker 4: Bro't for me?
Speaker 3: Whatever the.
Speaker 2: Show? It's really well they were they the Spaceship one
Speaker 2: right where they like, Yes, that one I saw, So
Speaker 2: there's a.
Speaker 4: Follow up one to that.
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh she's really good. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But speaking of like people going out of their mind
Speaker 3: and you know, thinking that they're in the matrix and
Speaker 3: all that there. Uh did you see where bj Pinn
Speaker 3: thinks that his family has been replaced with imposters? The wrestler, Yeah,
Speaker 3: the UFC fighter Bjpinn.
Speaker 2: No, he's a commentator, isn't he. Well, I don't know
Speaker 2: if he was what a name bj Pinn? What a
Speaker 2: bj bj?
Speaker 3: But no, he was a UFC fighter. I don't know
Speaker 3: if he did any comment He might have done some
Speaker 3: commentary or something.
Speaker 2: I've seen him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like I don't know, seven or eight years ago,
Speaker 3: he was really popular. But yeah, he thinks that he's
Speaker 3: been like arrested like several times and apparently like arrested
Speaker 3: because he's trying to get the word out to the
Speaker 3: authorities that his family has been killed and replaced.
Speaker 2: You know. The crazy part about that is because another
Speaker 2: another part of me, right, I'm a rational person. I
Speaker 2: like to look at both sides. And I think it
Speaker 2: was Elon Musk that tweeted this recently where it's like
Speaker 2: the most interesting, the most interesting situation is the is
Speaker 2: the truer one or something something along those lines. I'm paraphrasing,
Speaker 2: But how many times, right, people who come out as
Speaker 2: crazy and are labeled crazy are telling the truth? You know,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like, how many times is
Speaker 2: somebody the craziest shit? Like, oh that that guy is nuts?
Speaker 2: He was telling the truth, like you know, like Alex
Speaker 2: Jones kind of sort of he's a meme where like
Speaker 2: where they're turning.
Speaker 4: The frogs gay. He just he had the right idea, just.
Speaker 2: Didn't know how to portray that idea and it became
Speaker 2: a meme and people didn't take them seriously because again,
Speaker 2: if there's some dude yelling at you that they're turning
Speaker 2: the frogs homosexual. You're not gonna like, what are you
Speaker 2: talking about, bro? And then the studies came out were like, yeah,
Speaker 2: the frogs are actually gay now, right because with all
Speaker 2: this others, the boom boom boom, it's like he had
Speaker 2: the right concept. The execution just wasn't there, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like he just didn't know how to
Speaker 2: articulate that because he's off the rocker a little bit,
Speaker 2: and and rightfully so, because when you're looking into these
Speaker 2: sort of things over and over again, you lose a
Speaker 2: bit of yourself more and more every single time you
Speaker 2: dive down that gopher hole and come out the other side,
Speaker 2: because it just that's by nature, does that, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? Like it does that by nature? And
Speaker 2: that's how again similar to the occult, where people are
Speaker 2: looking into the occult and they lose their fucking minds
Speaker 2: because they're trying to figure look into things that aren't
Speaker 2: ever gonna make sense, Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: Like you try to understand alchemy, You're not ever gonna
Speaker 2: know what alchemy is about, or the homunculus or any
Speaker 2: of that.
Speaker 1: Shit now, speaking of looking too looking into the occult
Speaker 1: and losing your mind, I had Phoenix Aurelius on a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. He's a practicing magician alchemists, but
Speaker 1: he also does counseling and he helps people, and he
Speaker 1: talks to people and teaches people about their magical journey
Speaker 1: and modalities and things like that. But he's what's interesting
Speaker 1: is he says that he has noticed a major uptick
Speaker 1: of younger people, kids and teenagers dabbling in not only
Speaker 1: magic but black magic and Satanism, and on top of
Speaker 1: that going all the way to dark rituals and demon summonings,
Speaker 1: and these kids are getting fucked up and having mental
Speaker 1: disorders and up to even getting possessed, he claims. And
Speaker 1: he says, this is like this new epidemic among young
Speaker 1: people that are starting to dabble in the occult because
Speaker 1: of the access with social media and the information out there.
Speaker 2: There you go. I mean, that's similar to what I
Speaker 2: was saying earlier. Where right, the Internet has opened the
Speaker 2: floodgates quite literally, figuratively and literally. Where now the occult
Speaker 2: isn't the occult anymore, it's it's mainstream. We see this
Speaker 2: time and time again. How many times can you go
Speaker 2: on Twitter and see somebody posting about the little red
Speaker 2: bracelets that there were They're part of the club because
Speaker 2: they're wearing a red and bracelet, you know, like all
Speaker 2: this crazy shit, and it goes back to people who
Speaker 2: are struggling in real reality, whatever that is right in life,
Speaker 2: who are looking for answers outside of themselves. The reason
Speaker 2: that John Dee even started to dabble in the supernatural
Speaker 2: and the paranormal and the occult was because it was
Speaker 2: a bit of egotistical. But he had he had he
Speaker 2: thought he had figured everything out that there was ever
Speaker 2: to learn, right, and he was he was wanting to
Speaker 2: look further. So all these people who are dabbling into
Speaker 2: this are reading about Edward Kelly and John Dee and
Speaker 2: Alistair Crowley and all these other people, and it's like, well,
Speaker 2: maybe there is a chance, there's a slight chance that
Speaker 2: I could land that job or land a ton of
Speaker 2: money if I do this occult ritual and I speak
Speaker 2: to Betzebub himself or fucking Cthulhu himself or whoever it is.
Speaker 2: You take your pick, because that's the way it is.
Speaker 2: And then they start doing this stuff that they don't understand. Now,
Speaker 2: I'm on the fence about the occult working uh, if
Speaker 2: it's real or not, right, I'm on the fence if anything,
Speaker 2: The occult and magic and all these things are a
Speaker 2: sort of let's call it a training device for the mind, okay,
Speaker 2: And I think it influences your mind and makes you
Speaker 2: It puts you in certain states that you're more susceptible
Speaker 2: to certain things. Now, are you actually summoning something? I
Speaker 2: don't really think so. I think that you you think
Speaker 2: that you are right, So therefore you kind of you're
Speaker 2: training your mind to accept certain outcomes, if you get
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And then when those outcomes happen, oh whatever,
Speaker 2: you're just condition It's a it's a form of conditioning, right.
Speaker 2: And I don't think that you can pray Cthulhu or
Speaker 2: Dagon whoever it is, and they'll get grant you with,
Speaker 2: you know, riches beyond your beliefs or whatever it is.
Speaker 2: I think it's more of like a mental sort of thing.
Speaker 2: And when people aren't already mentally all there, because let's
Speaker 2: let's be real, if you're gonna be looking into this
Speaker 2: sort of stuff, you're probably already a little retarded to
Speaker 2: begin with, right, and then you just spiral out of
Speaker 2: control after that because you start to dig deeper and
Speaker 2: deeper and deeper, and by the time you know it,
Speaker 2: you're way above your head and you have an episode
Speaker 2: where you become schizophrenic or whatever it is. And even
Speaker 2: I'm sure you've done the episode before where what is
Speaker 2: schizophrenia and all these other mental disorder? Are those demons?
Speaker 2: Right when Croley said the goetia was actually parts of
Speaker 2: our brain, like when you tap into a certain part
Speaker 2: of that, is that an alternate personality or something, or
Speaker 2: or an alternate consciousness or soul or whatever. We don't
Speaker 2: know because there hasn't been too many studies into that
Speaker 2: in my opinion, right where they uh, that's to woo
Speaker 2: woo for the mainstream science, the soul and consciousness and
Speaker 2: all that shit.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, Well, I had Jerry Marzenski and I know
Speaker 1: you have too.
Speaker 2: Writer.
Speaker 1: He was on the other day talking about how not
Speaker 1: only they don't talk about those things, but you are
Speaker 1: shut down immediately if you even suggest that is anything
Speaker 1: other than a disorder of the mind or chemical imbalance
Speaker 1: or whatever the mainstream science says it is. If you
Speaker 1: go against that, you're going to be shut down, and
Speaker 1: that was the problem that he was facing his whole career.
Speaker 1: But there is definitely seems to be much more going
Speaker 1: on with a lot of those disorders where people seem
Speaker 1: to be communicating with something. In my opinion, There's this.
Speaker 3: Movie that I watched the other night that's called Night Swim.
Speaker 2: Okay, I saw that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's about this pool and this guy. They buy
Speaker 3: this house, him and his family and he is injured.
Speaker 3: He was baseball player. He got like he had MS, right,
Speaker 3: got MSS because he got injured. And they buy this
Speaker 3: house and then he's They refill the pool. The pool
Speaker 3: is supposedly a part of a natural aquafor that's been
Speaker 3: on the property for a really long time. He starts
Speaker 3: swimming in the pool. Okay, the pool heals him from
Speaker 3: his MS. He starts feeling better, He's able to play
Speaker 3: baseball again. He's like, it's kind of like a fountain
Speaker 3: of youth, right, But the give and take for the
Speaker 3: pool as that you the pool will essentially take. Yeah,
Speaker 3: all right, my yeah, my turn. You just a little
Speaker 3: tad little, a little tad feminine. It's got the stuff
Speaker 3: in the water that turns the people gay. Okay, But
Speaker 3: is essentially you have to sacrifice one of your child's,
Speaker 3: like one of your kids, like, in order to be healed.
Speaker 2: Okay, you're quick on that one.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean that's the brief overview. There's more. It's
Speaker 3: a little more complicated when you watch the movie. But
Speaker 3: and that's what I think is going on with like
Speaker 3: dark magic, black magic rituals. Right, it's the it's the shortcut, Okay.
Speaker 3: Whenever you do like some kind of if you're practicing
Speaker 3: black magic or black rituals, or you're trying to summon
Speaker 3: a demon to get more wealthy or like possessions or
Speaker 3: whatever the demon is or the entity or whatever is
Speaker 3: then going to take from you, and it's going to
Speaker 3: take something really important from you, okay. And I think
Speaker 3: that that is the difference between the good and the evil.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: So if you were to do, you know, pray to
Speaker 3: what you believe is like something that is good, like
Speaker 3: what you know you think God or whatever, it's going
Speaker 3: to take a lot longer of amount of time, okay,
Speaker 3: But eventually you may get what you've been praying for
Speaker 3: somewhere down the line. But with the dark magic and
Speaker 3: the black magic, it's almost like instantly, but the instantaneous
Speaker 3: part is going to take something very important from you.
Speaker 3: Like let's say you were doing this is just an example.
Speaker 3: Let's see you were doing a black magic ritual for
Speaker 3: a million dollars. Okay, you got the million dollars, but
Speaker 3: then your family dies unexpectedly. Your wife dies, your dad
Speaker 3: than dies, your parents, then dies, your kid then dies. Okay,
Speaker 3: Like was it worth it? I think that that is
Speaker 3: the deal that's made there.
Speaker 1: Along similar lines, when I went to Ryan Burns's Space
Speaker 1: Wolf Research Center, had this dude that was rinning property
Speaker 1: from Ryan on his land near Skinwalker Ranch, and he
Speaker 1: was an admitted practicing Satanist. He would walk around with
Speaker 1: his red robe and staff. He had these lights on
Speaker 1: a tent that he claims would summon the old ones
Speaker 1: at night. But he was telling us how he would
Speaker 1: do these elaborate rituals for either power or wealth or whatever.
Speaker 1: And the reason he's living in a tent now is
Speaker 1: because two rituals misfired on him and the entity he
Speaker 1: was working with destroyed his two previous homes completely setting
Speaker 1: them on fire. Somehow some freak accident, not once, but
Speaker 1: two houses. So if I were that guy, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think you would probably learn your lesson after the
Speaker 1: first one. But nah, he's still rolling.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: But it's just like the movie The Substance right scene
Speaker 3: type of and well one you need to get on it.
Speaker 2: Bro, text me a list of movies I gotta watch
Speaker 2: so that way you guys don't when I come on
Speaker 2: podcast with you.
Speaker 3: Well, it's a very demonic movie in my opinion, Like
Speaker 3: I watched it and I was like, what the fuck
Speaker 3: is this? Like I was fucked up for a couple
Speaker 3: of days, Bro, legitimate.
Speaker 2: And you're already fucked up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a whole other level of being fucked
Speaker 3: But it's the same type of scenario with that, right.
Speaker 3: It's it's like, what are you willing to give up
Speaker 3: for this new life that you want or this new
Speaker 3: reality that you want or the million dollars are being
Speaker 3: rich or being famous? Like I feel like that that
Speaker 3: is really what it is. Like that that is what
Speaker 3: they call like signing a contract with Satan or selling
Speaker 3: your soul or whatever. It's not like a legitimate like
Speaker 3: selling of your soul, but it's it's giving up something
Speaker 3: that is that you can almost not even really live without,
Speaker 3: you know, and in the substance it's different because it's
Speaker 3: like affecting the person that's doing their physical body right,
Speaker 3: it's actually arming them physically, I guess, rotting away their
Speaker 3: bodies like it's But I think that that's a very
Speaker 3: similar and is what they're really trying to tell us,
Speaker 3: because there's been like several, you know, examples of that
Speaker 3: throughout movies and you know, even like looking into the
Speaker 3: occult and researching the occult. Is that you have to
Speaker 3: give something that's so freaking important to you in order
Speaker 3: to gain whatever it is that you're trying to gain,
Speaker 3: you know. And that's the whole premise of like blood magic. Right,
Speaker 3: you cut your you know, you suck some of your blood,
Speaker 3: you know. But I think that that's a a metaphor,
Speaker 3: right that you're sacrificing your blood, Like your blood could
Speaker 3: be your family. Your blood can be your dad, it
Speaker 3: can be your sister, it can be your an, it
Speaker 3: can be your cousin, it can be your mom, it
Speaker 3: can be your brother whatever. You know, it doesn't mean
Speaker 3: like your physical blood. It could be a relative. Right,
Speaker 3: So it's like you again, word magic.
Speaker 1: I wonder these elite parasites whatever you want to call them,
Speaker 1: are so obsessed with living forever that I wonder if
Speaker 1: they have some sort of multi generational knowledge of reincarnating
Speaker 1: into a certain bloodline, a certain powerful family, because if
Speaker 1: you don't want to go at all, you'll probably figure
Speaker 1: out a way to stay through whatever means you have.
Speaker 1: They're trying to do it through technology now, upload their
Speaker 1: consciousness whatever kind of bullshit they're doing there. But in
Speaker 1: our ancient past, could it be that they had the
Speaker 1: knowledge to keep coming back and staying within these powerful
Speaker 1: groups to perpetuate the next agenda because you know, you
Speaker 1: got it. If you want it done, you gotta do
Speaker 1: it yourself.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, at the core of all of this
Speaker 2: that we've talked about is just that, like, how much
Speaker 2: of this technology, let's consider it technology for a second,
Speaker 2: are the elites or the wealthy or the powerful actually
Speaker 2: using and actually implementing right, Because we talk about this
Speaker 2: all the time where it's like, oh, here's the Reptilian
Speaker 2: elite royal family, blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: They look, they look, how you're saying.
Speaker 2: But stuff, since where it shows on their sell, like
Speaker 2: shows on their body, Well, there's a reason why a
Speaker 2: witch looks like a witch, right, it looks they look
Speaker 2: very grotesque and ugly, because in my opinion, I think
Speaker 2: if you dabble and you interact with certain nasty, ugly things,
Speaker 2: you start to become that and it starts to show
Speaker 2: that on your actual person. And I think that's why
Speaker 2: a lot of celebrities you see them and they kind
Speaker 2: of wither away. They kind of look just like they
Speaker 2: look like demons. Like the latest one I know people
Speaker 2: have been pointing out is the girl from the movie Wicked,
Speaker 2: the one of the girls though not what's the Ariana Grande,
Speaker 2: not her, but the other one. I don't know her name,
Speaker 2: but she looks very just demonic. Like you look at
Speaker 2: her hands and she's got long nails on and her
Speaker 2: hands are very bony, and it looks like a like
Speaker 2: a like a ghoule, right, like a I was gonna say,
Speaker 2: like a skin walker almost like that you hear about
Speaker 2: like because and that's part of the skinwalker mythology where
Speaker 2: it's a pact you made what is it with the devil,
Speaker 2: where you become you have to murder one of your
Speaker 2: family members, right in order to acquire the power, and
Speaker 2: then you become this sort of like a windagoon sort
Speaker 2: of thing. We become.
Speaker 4: Was it bloodthirst or something like that?
Speaker 2: You become a cannibal essentially, And I think that's similar
Speaker 2: to what you know, what we're talking about. But the
Speaker 2: whole conspiracy is how much of the elites, how many
Speaker 2: of them are actually implementing these things, How many people
Speaker 2: on DC are are doing these things, how many people
Speaker 2: in Hollywood are doing these things? Or all these rappers
Speaker 2: even the music industry, Like what was did he actually
Speaker 2: up to? Was it all really just freak offs? Or
Speaker 2: was it some sort of satanic ritual? You know, butthole
Speaker 2: party or something or other? Like, we don't know? And
Speaker 2: that right there as a conspiracy, and I think that
Speaker 2: keeps it fueled to where you know, you know how
Speaker 2: they say, well, as long as they believe in it,
Speaker 2: you know, that's all that matters. And in part that's
Speaker 2: true because it's quote unquote working for them. But is
Speaker 2: it are they actually using it to begin with? You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, like, realistically, do we have any
Speaker 2: real evidence of that other than like the actual documented
Speaker 2: cases of satanic rituals, which one of the ones that
Speaker 2: I was exposed to recently was I'm sure you know
Speaker 2: about this one, right really? Uh? The one where what's
Speaker 2: the one where it was like a town in Ireland
Speaker 2: or Dublin or something where they were making the children
Speaker 2: do stuff and it was like everybody was in on it.
Speaker 2: The schools weren't on it. But then it turned out
Speaker 2: to be a hoax. Have you heard about that one?
Speaker 2: Forgot the name of it.
Speaker 3: That's the UFO incident.
Speaker 4: No, no, it was. We see if I can find it.
Speaker 4: But this came up on a recent podcast I did.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, while you find that, I have something else too,
Speaker 3: because there are Ryan Burns actually told me about this,
Speaker 3: which is a ritual called the Red Right that Michael Aquino,
Speaker 3: which was the founder of the Temple of Set would
Speaker 3: supposedly do is which is like a reincarnation ritual. Right,
Speaker 3: So what would happen is is that you would get
Speaker 3: somebody pregnant, right, you would wait until they.
Speaker 1: Are about to have birth.
Speaker 3: This is all allegedly, allegedly, there's no proof that it works,
Speaker 3: just allegedly you would wait until they're about that give birth,
Speaker 3: and then you would commit suicide and then your consciousness
Speaker 3: and your soul would then be reincarnated. Into your kit.
Speaker 2: Thanks. Have you guys, Have you guys read any of
Speaker 2: William Burrow's work? No, So, William Burrow's famous chaos magician.
Speaker 2: He the guy's a piece of shit, you guys, just
Speaker 2: bottom of the bear.
Speaker 1: As it seems to be with many of those chaos magicians.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just absolute garbage, human filth, the scumbag. Fuck that guy.
Speaker 2: But anyways, his life is very interesting because he talked
Speaker 2: a lot about a word magic and you know, a
Speaker 2: different technique divination techniques, and he has a lot of
Speaker 2: interesting concepts. But one of the ones that he talked
Speaker 2: about that he wrote a lot of books about because
Speaker 2: what I this is bad. What I appreciate about William
Speaker 2: Burrow's work is that, you know, a lot of the
Speaker 2: times we talk about the occult and we don't necessarily
Speaker 2: know what it means. Like, oh, the Knights Templar were
Speaker 2: worshiping Bathho met. What was Bapha met? The head of
Speaker 2: John the Baptist? Yeah, right, Illuminati confirmed? Whatever done? How
Speaker 2: were they? How were they doing that? How were they
Speaker 2: having the head prophesied them? So this is where William
Speaker 2: Burrows comes out, where he's actually writing what they had
Speaker 2: to do in order to make the head talk or
Speaker 2: any other thing. And one of the things that he
Speaker 2: wrote about was that, and I forgot what he called them,
Speaker 2: but it was this this I think it was like
Speaker 2: an indigenous tribe or something that had a practice of
Speaker 2: doing that where essentially it would have two people compulating,
Speaker 2: right and at the same time, there would be other
Speaker 2: people committing suicide right next to them in hopes that
Speaker 2: they'd be transferred to the body of the you know
Speaker 2: what was happening.
Speaker 4: You know when people compulate, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Like, Uh so he had concept like that, and when
Speaker 2: you really look into it, he's it's a story, it's
Speaker 2: a book, right, but he's actually telling stuff that they
Speaker 2: might in reality do. Now, this guy was a PDF file, right,
Speaker 2: So this guy was all into that crazy weird he
Speaker 2: wrote about just dark. If if anyone's interested in reading
Speaker 2: and stuff, just don't like it's it's yeah, it's dark,
Speaker 2: it's it goes, it goes everywhere that you think it's
Speaker 2: gonna go. And some Okay, he's talking about all crazy shit,
Speaker 2: but he's exposing things, right of how these things work
Speaker 2: in the occult and the case that I was talking about,
Speaker 2: let me know, if you're familiar with this writer is
Speaker 2: the Hampstead case. Have you heard about that one?
Speaker 3: No, I haven't explained. It sounds interesting something that I
Speaker 3: would be into.
Speaker 2: So the Hampstead case, also known as the Hampstead hoax
Speaker 2: because it's a hoax, right, That's what Wikipedia says, is
Speaker 2: a series of false allegations of satanic pdf pdf file
Speaker 2: pdf file ring operating at North London school. So key
Speaker 2: details false allegations. In twenty fourteen, two children made video
Speaker 2: recorded claims of ritualistic abuse, including human sacrifice, including parents
Speaker 2: and teachers at their school. Source of the allegation of
Speaker 2: the UK court processes later determined the children's mother coached
Speaker 2: them into making the false allegations. It was found. It
Speaker 2: was found the video was taken by the children's mother,
Speaker 2: Ella Draper, who was involved in a custody battle with
Speaker 2: the children's father and whose new boyfriend, Abraham Christie, had
Speaker 2: links to conspiracy groups focus on child killing and organ
Speaker 2: harvesting Satanists. So again, there's a whole documentary on it.
Speaker 2: I guess the case is subject of the twenty twenty
Speaker 2: four documentary accused the Hampstead Pedophile Hoax. This documentary explores
Speaker 2: the you so I'm gonna watch that. But apparently it's
Speaker 2: this crazy whole thing where the school was in on it.
Speaker 2: But it's funny, right, it's a hoax? Well isn't it
Speaker 2: easy to paint it as a hoax? So which is it?
Speaker 2: Is it real or is it not? So you're left
Speaker 2: in this limbo of like we know for a fact,
Speaker 2: this could one hundred percent be a possibility. How much
Speaker 2: of a possibility is it? You get what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: because this is this is queuing on shit. This is
Speaker 2: like the top of this is the top of the
Speaker 2: conspiracy poll where it's like there's a ring and they're
Speaker 2: doing all this crazy shit to get it, Like that's
Speaker 2: conspiracy one oh one. Dude. You can talk to anybody
Speaker 2: on the on the street and it's happened to me,
Speaker 2: where you strike up a conversation what kind of shit
Speaker 2: are you into? And sometimes I test the water with
Speaker 2: like some weird shit that I'll say.
Speaker 4: Like you have you ever heard of a homunculus?
Speaker 2: And they're like, no, what's that? And then I'll just
Speaker 2: like explain to them, and you know, I do more
Speaker 2: subtle things than that, But you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But sometimes they'll be like, I'll be like, what's the
Speaker 2: conspiracy you believe in? And then they'll go into you know,
Speaker 2: the quean on shit. Oh, they're into you know, the
Speaker 2: kids stuff, and like that's like conspiracy one on one.
Speaker 2: So when this thing comes out, you're like, hmm, these kids,
Speaker 2: they did a good job being coached, right. A kid
Speaker 2: doesn't just come up with that. Either. There's two possibilities.
Speaker 2: Either they were really coached and trained to say those things,
Speaker 2: or two it actually happened. Because part of you know,
Speaker 2: Fritz spring Meyer's work that I've learned to appreciate is
Speaker 2: the fact that you know, when you have a child
Speaker 2: and they go, oh, you know, Ronald McDonald came into
Speaker 2: my room last night and he you know, did things
Speaker 2: to me, you're like, shut the fuck up to me.
Speaker 2: You know, you're a seven year old little boy. The
Speaker 2: problem is that that's a technique that they use because
Speaker 2: the more unbelievable it sounds, the less like you're, the
Speaker 2: less like you are to believe the children. Right, So
Speaker 2: when the easter bunny came into my room at night,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe they're telling the fucking truth, right, but
Speaker 2: you just dismiss it because oh, it's a child, right.
Speaker 1: I think it was something with the Franklin school scandal
Speaker 1: where they were dressing up like clowns or like you said,
Speaker 1: Easter bunnies to come and mess with these kids so
Speaker 1: that they would have some kind of plausible deniability. Whenever
Speaker 1: the kid would retell the story they talk about clowns
Speaker 1: or giant bunny rabbits messing with them, they would automatically
Speaker 1: be dismissed fucking diabolical.
Speaker 3: Well, not only that, the trauma that kids can face
Speaker 3: as well, like in their minds will just create whatever
Speaker 3: makes them feel more comfortable, right, Like maybe you know
Speaker 3: Ronald McDonald was very comforting to this child, and you know,
Speaker 3: something did happen to the child and then his brain,
Speaker 3: through the trauma, has replaced the bad thing that happened
Speaker 3: to him with Ronald McDonald. That's very common too. I
Speaker 3: mean that's what trauma does. Like would you rather remember
Speaker 3: the you know, the horrific thing that happened to you
Speaker 3: as a child, or would you you know, rather remember
Speaker 3: Ronald McDonald coming into into right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think that again, it's all very possible.
Speaker 2: But we go back into the conspiracy of is it
Speaker 2: actually real? Is it actually true? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But then, I mean, you can look at history where
Speaker 2: there were a lot of heinous things that a lot
Speaker 2: of indigenous cultures did, like they did some I think
Speaker 2: it was the Aztecs of the Mayas or something where
Speaker 2: they would skin the daughter of like a rival tribe
Speaker 2: and then wear her skin and like do orgies while
Speaker 2: wearing the skin of the daughter for like ten days
Speaker 2: or some crazy shit like b it's and this is
Speaker 2: all now, how much of the historical record has been
Speaker 2: over exaggerated and tainted? I don't know, but that's what
Speaker 2: they were saying, and that's what they wrote about.
Speaker 4: How much of that is true?
Speaker 2: Right? Like these people were doing things by these people,
Speaker 2: I mean like the ancients, right, they were doing human sacrifice.
Speaker 2: And there's even been debates about that was human sacrifice.
Speaker 2: I think. I'm sure you guys have seen like different
Speaker 2: documentaries of like we found this bone pit, it's got
Speaker 2: baby bones, they're charred.
Speaker 4: Were they actually sacrificing kids?
Speaker 2: And then they do like a whole study of like,
Speaker 2: well maybe it was just dead babies that they burned,
Speaker 2: and you know they weren't actually alive. Babies and it
Speaker 2: was just a way of cremating them or was it
Speaker 2: fucking child sacrifice like that? You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2: Like how crazy can it get? But that's history. We're
Speaker 2: never going to really know the truth, where we can
Speaker 2: only interpret it how we see fit.
Speaker 3: Have you seen that documentary where they're the the coroners
Speaker 3: are talking about like cremation and every thing, And he
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, I would just stark like twelve bodies
Speaker 3: in the incinerator and incinerate all of them at the
Speaker 3: exact same time and then divvy up all the ashes
Speaker 3: to the separate families.
Speaker 4: Dude, what that's crazy?
Speaker 3: Bro? He was like, Okay, so what am I going
Speaker 3: to do? It takes three to four hours to disintegrate
Speaker 3: one body, okay, or you can bundle sixty eight hours
Speaker 3: to disintegrate fifteen bodies.
Speaker 2: That's that's dark, bro. That could imagine like here's grandma
Speaker 2: in this here and it's fucking twenty other people in
Speaker 2: there with her, Like you don't know whose ashes you have?
Speaker 2: You have some random persons that, dude, what that is? Bananas?
Speaker 2: Man like? But again, there's been a lot of those places.
Speaker 2: I remember the one that they found I think it
Speaker 2: was in California where they had a bunch of body
Speaker 2: parts stacked up inside of it. They never they never
Speaker 2: said anything else about that. It like came out in
Speaker 2: the news and then it was hush hush after that.
Speaker 2: But I know for a fact in California and in Florida,
Speaker 2: and not only in Florida, how they found floating fetuses
Speaker 2: in the water, like on the beach. But there's been
Speaker 2: entire containers full of fetuses preserved in the ports.
Speaker 4: Okay, this is where you guys can look this up.
Speaker 2: In the eighties, they found an entire container full of
Speaker 2: human fetuses that were being preserved. And the whole story
Speaker 2: was it was a Jewish doctor, not that that means anything.
Speaker 2: It was a Jewish doctor that allegedly hadn't disposed of
Speaker 2: them correctly. It was an elohim Okay, that hadn't just
Speaker 2: had he was having a rough time and didn't dispose
Speaker 2: of them correctly.
Speaker 4: Bro that's a weird thing to have.
Speaker 2: Okay. Now, again, if you're doing, you know, the thing
Speaker 2: that they do to extract babies out of people, already,
Speaker 2: you're already a dark, heinous individual. So I wouldn't doubt
Speaker 2: it if you did keep a container full of I
Speaker 2: think it was like twenty eight hundred fetuses or something
Speaker 2: like that. So again, there are a lot of things
Speaker 2: that fuel conspiracies. How many of them are true though,
Speaker 2: because a lot of the times, you know, when you
Speaker 2: go online and you post, oh that conspiracy is retarded,
Speaker 2: and then people will come out of the woodwhere and
Speaker 2: be like, we were proven right, Yeah, of which conspiracy?
Speaker 2: Tell me tell me one twenty twenty it came out
Speaker 2: of a lab. Okay, what else?
Speaker 1: We're entering a dangerous time of delusion, especially if you're
Speaker 1: still trying to get information from the internet, from social media.
Speaker 1: It's getting real close to the time where we just
Speaker 1: need to shut it all down and go live primitive
Speaker 1: caveman lives again. No technology hitting our women over the head.
Speaker 2: Not even that dude. I mean you know how I
Speaker 2: tell right early, don't read the comments, you know, disconnect
Speaker 2: from the internet for a while, don't don't you know,
Speaker 2: just hang out how you sed to touch grass, do something,
Speaker 2: don't be in it all the time. And it's it's
Speaker 2: it's an aspect of balance, right, So the key is balance,
Speaker 2: and some people the skills are weighing more into the
Speaker 2: skitzo gopher holes and just in it all the time
Speaker 2: and wanting to find out the secret of reality and
Speaker 2: wake up call here, it's never gonna happen.
Speaker 4: You're never gonna know the truth.
Speaker 2: Okay. Bad things happen every day to good people, and
Speaker 2: that's just the way reality work sometimes. Unfortunately, you know
Speaker 2: you're not gonna save you don't be captain save a
Speaker 2: hoe with these conspiracies. Just give it a rest every
Speaker 2: once in a while. And I'm not saying you can't
Speaker 2: make a difference. I'm sure you could, but some people
Speaker 2: need to learn when to call it quits and when
Speaker 2: to just chill the fuck out, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Well, there's this really good documentary on Netflix that I
Speaker 3: really like, this called Dick Kings of Tupelo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was good.
Speaker 3: Saga where these two Elvis impersonators, well one of them
Speaker 3: ends up like blowing the whistle on this giant conspiracy
Speaker 3: about like orgon harvesting. Okay, Like he gets a job,
Speaker 3: like the Elvis impersonator thing wasn't going over well, they
Speaker 3: kind of like kick him out of the Elvis and
Speaker 3: Twin Brother duo and then he gets a job at
Speaker 3: a hospital as a maintenance guy, and then he stumbles
Speaker 3: into this unlocked room with all of these body parts,
Speaker 3: the just body parts everywhere.
Speaker 4: Bro what severed.
Speaker 3: Limbs, severed arms and all this stuff. And then he
Speaker 3: creates this entire like web page of like you know,
Speaker 3: organ harvesting, like body parts and stuff. And he's like
Speaker 3: going full fledged into like all this shit, right, and
Speaker 3: he's known as like the town cook, Okay, And then
Speaker 3: during that time, anthrax was then sent to the White House,
Speaker 3: which was intended to kill Obama. I don't know if
Speaker 3: you guys remember that whole I remember that whole fiasco
Speaker 3: where there was like anthrax that was sealed inside of
Speaker 3: an envelope that was then sent to Obama to try
Speaker 3: and you know, kill him or whatever. And then this
Speaker 3: whole thing was then blamed on this Elvis impersonator because
Speaker 3: he had gone down this conspiracy rabbit hole of Oregon
Speaker 3: harvesting and like body parts. Okay, But then it turned
Speaker 3: out to be a CIA agent in the town that
Speaker 3: was a karate instructor that was just working for the
Speaker 3: freaking CIA. Dude, like a black budget CIA. It's called
Speaker 3: the Kings of Tupela. A Southern crime Saga Tupelo.
Speaker 4: Sorry, oh, but pretty sure.
Speaker 1: That's a documentary.
Speaker 3: Netflix documentary.
Speaker 2: It's really dude.
Speaker 5: That sounds crazy, but it's not even But it's not
Speaker 5: like typical Netflix documentary style where they like set up
Speaker 5: all this stuff and then they just completely like say.
Speaker 3: That none of it's true and like discredit. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: not the typical Netflix documentary style, like actually leaves it
Speaker 3: open ended. Because the guy that this dude, this Elvis impersonator,
Speaker 3: was going after for Orgon Harvesting. He owned a funeral home.
Speaker 3: He'd been going after this dude for years. Then he
Speaker 3: actually got in trouble for Oregon Harvesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I checked that out. It sounds interesting, it sounds crazy.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, guys, this was a fun discussion. Before
Speaker 1: we close out, let everyone know if you got anything
Speaker 1: interesting coming up and remind him where to find and
Speaker 1: all your sexy content.
Speaker 2: I'll go first. Yeah, I don't really have anything in
Speaker 2: the works at the moment. You can find me over
Speaker 2: at www dot tj ojp dot com. He catch me
Speaker 2: once a month with writer Lee at the Schizospiracy Hour
Speaker 2: Maga Burrito Our. I don't know what the name of
Speaker 2: the podcast is, but it's something where you go off
Speaker 2: the rails and talk about crazy shit and uh yeah,
Speaker 2: www dot tj ojp dot com. Buy me on there.
Speaker 3: You can find me Raised by Giants on YouTube and
Speaker 3: any and all podcast platforms and the Forbidden Knowledge News Network,
Speaker 3: And if you'd like to reach out to me personally,
Speaker 3: you can find me on Twitter x at Raised by
Speaker 3: Giants e and Instagram at raisby Giants pod. And I
Speaker 3: have a new documentary in the works right now. It's
Speaker 3: almost completely written, going to be on the Government DIA
Speaker 3: Army Intelligence Psychic Spy Program. Thank you for having me on,
Speaker 3: really appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Awesome.
Speaker 1: We will do it again until next time. Everyone have
Speaker 1: a wonderful evening and we'll talk again tomorrow.
Speaker 3: See yu