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<v Speaker 1>Juan writer, Welcome back. How y'all doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for half of me dude.

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<v Speaker 3>What is up, Chris? Good to see you, brother, Appreciate it,

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<v Speaker 3>Appreciate the invite.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Man, always a wonderful conversation. And now I got

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<v Speaker 1>you both here, we're gonna get weird. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>share our thoughts on the state of society, technology, conspiracy, culture,

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<v Speaker 1>and where it's all headed. I used to somewhat be

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<v Speaker 1>able to predict how things in the future would be, relatively, say,

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<v Speaker 1>like in the late eighties, in the nineties, even early

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<v Speaker 1>two thousands, you could look ahead five years and pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much predict where we'd be at with our technology, where

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<v Speaker 1>society would be, how relatively stupid people would be. But

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<v Speaker 1>now it's difficult to predict on a daily basis where

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<v Speaker 1>we're going, what is going to be occurring the next day,

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<v Speaker 1>a what kind of high impact event, what AI is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be doing. It's getting crazy out there, so

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<v Speaker 1>i'd love to get your thoughts on all of this

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<v Speaker 1>before we do. Just quickly introduce yourselves, let the audience

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<v Speaker 1>know where they can find you. Starting with you one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, dude, thanks for having me on. Man, it's been

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit since you and I have gotten together.

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<v Speaker 2>Me and writer Lee do have a monthly show. We

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<v Speaker 2>do the Schizo Burrito Maga Hour. I don't even know

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<v Speaker 2>the name of schizospiracy where you just go off the rails,

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<v Speaker 2>but you can find me over at www dot tjojp

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<v Speaker 2>dot com and Juan on Juan podcast or media on

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much any platform you you subscribe to, Instagram, TikTok, Twitter,

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<v Speaker 2>all that good stuff time on there. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>You can find me at Raised by Giants, on YouTube

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<v Speaker 3>and in all podcast platforms, Instagram, Facebook, anywhere you would

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<v Speaker 3>like to find me out, you can pretty much find me.

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<v Speaker 3>You can actually find me on TikTok as well. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>on that communist TikTok to right. Yeah, you can find

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<v Speaker 3>my only fans page on there as well. No, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't have any fans, but that would be really funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Conspiracy video is on OnlyFans. That would be hilarious.

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<v Speaker 4>Go deeper, Ye, go deeper.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, speaking of conspiracy and social media, when we first started,

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<v Speaker 1>writer I remember we were doing We've been doing this

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<v Speaker 1>for a while, and it was probably around two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and nineteen twenty twenty somewhere around there. Whenever we kind

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<v Speaker 1>of hooked up and started doing shows together, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was a new frontier. Not many people, especially not as

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<v Speaker 1>many as there are now we're talking about these things.

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<v Speaker 1>It was honestly really fun to get into some of

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<v Speaker 1>these topics. It wasn't saturated with nonsense and beds and

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<v Speaker 1>intelligence trying to muddy the waters and throw shit out

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<v Speaker 1>there just to see what sticks. So it was a

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<v Speaker 1>different time, but it didn't take long for things to

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<v Speaker 1>rapidly change, especially after twenty twenty. I have to wonder

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<v Speaker 1>how much of that was a reaction to people becoming

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<v Speaker 1>aware of things. And of course, any movement that has

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<v Speaker 1>any benefit for humanity has to be infiltrated and co opted.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's where we're at, almost to a

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<v Speaker 1>complete level, with conspiracy culture, especially as it relates to

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<v Speaker 1>what we're seeing online and the Internet and even the

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<v Speaker 1>new alternative mainstream media. So I want to get you

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<v Speaker 1>guys thoughts on that. Let's start there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So, you know, I've been so disconnected with everything,

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<v Speaker 2>and the one that broke the news, like the latest one, right,

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<v Speaker 2>the whole Trump Elon debacle, was actually my wife. She

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<v Speaker 2>was and mind you, she's not into any other stuff, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So she was like, Hey, have you seen the latest

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<v Speaker 2>on Elon on Musk and Trump. I'm like, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, oh, he tweeted this thing, right. She showed

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<v Speaker 2>me a screenshot and I was like, I mean, it

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<v Speaker 2>is what it is, right, Like, what do they expect

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<v Speaker 2>us to do about that? But how much of it

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<v Speaker 2>is he trolling the the the whatever universe this is

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<v Speaker 2>or is he actually telling the truth? And if he

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<v Speaker 2>was telling the truth, don't you think they would have

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<v Speaker 2>taken him out? Right? If you're gonna if you have information,

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<v Speaker 2>which I've said this a bunch of times, and I've

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<v Speaker 2>talked about this before, the true information isn't about use

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<v Speaker 2>some of the Noochian entities through your butt plug magic

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the blackmail magic, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's call it that. It's called it the blackmail magic.

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<v Speaker 2>You can put that on the title where that's the

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<v Speaker 2>real information, that's the true occult information that gets you

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<v Speaker 2>taken out. And we see this time and time again

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<v Speaker 2>right now, right you're talking about the main conspiravers, whatever

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<v Speaker 2>you want to call it. Right, Rogan has been unlistenable

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<v Speaker 2>for the last three years.

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<v Speaker 5>He just Hadgan wand Dotty Rogan.

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<v Speaker 2>He is the top of the top, and he is

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent control. They just had that Patel guy

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<v Speaker 2>on whatever Epstein killed himself and there's absolutely no video

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<v Speaker 2>of it at all, you know, And and that's the truth. Like, Bro,

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<v Speaker 2>that dude looks micultrude out. Bro, you look on his eyes,

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<v Speaker 2>man like, he look that dude has seen some shit,

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<v Speaker 2>right like that, that's how cooked that guy is. And

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<v Speaker 2>then he goes on there and spews the mainstream media bullshit,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the FBI turned and goes, yeah, there's there's

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<v Speaker 2>actually there actually is a video, like which is it? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>So the true occult information that gets you killed aren't

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<v Speaker 2>deals with the devil. It's the blackmail stuff that you

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<v Speaker 2>know that you saw somebody doing something that they shouldn't know.

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<v Speaker 2>And how much of it right that everyone loves to

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<v Speaker 2>talk identity politics, and there's some people on on board with,

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<v Speaker 2>oh it actually works, you know, voting for a certain

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<v Speaker 2>party saves lives and voting for the.

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<v Speaker 4>Other party doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Blah blah blah. I think it's all two birds, the

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<v Speaker 2>two wings of the same bird, two sides of the

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<v Speaker 2>same coin.

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<v Speaker 4>They're all in this together.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. Is eon trolling or is there some truth to

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<v Speaker 2>the stuff that he said? Right? I mean, where do

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<v Speaker 2>we go from here? And it's like you're just in

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<v Speaker 2>this wormhole, dude, and you just don't even know where

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<v Speaker 2>to pick up, especially now with.

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<v Speaker 4>The whole AI stuff, the Google AI.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you guys have seen that the it's Google,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't it where they're doing like Microsoft?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Yeah, that's the whole thing. That's the whole thing

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<v Speaker 3>with this is like there's been zero evidence that Trump

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<v Speaker 3>is a part of the Epstein client list. No one

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<v Speaker 3>has ever said that Trump is was a client of Epstein,

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<v Speaker 3>no article ever. Now, Trump could have been on the

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<v Speaker 3>contact list, but the contact list is something completely different

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<v Speaker 3>than the client list, Okay, and people get those two

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<v Speaker 3>things confused. So with Elon saying that Trump is in

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<v Speaker 3>the Epstein files, if he was on the contact list,

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<v Speaker 3>that would mean that he is in the files by proxy.

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<v Speaker 3>But that doesn't mean that Trump was a client of Epstein.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean we know that through the Virginia Juffrey case.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe that I've been on Chris your show talking

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<v Speaker 3>about my breakdown of the Virginia Juphray case. Like that's

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<v Speaker 3>where she met Epstein and Justlyn Maxwell was that mar

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<v Speaker 3>A Lago wok So Epstein and Leine Maxwell frequented mar

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<v Speaker 3>A Lago. Okay, so it makes sense that they, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>brushed shoulders. But was he a client? I don't believe

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<v Speaker 3>that he was in the That's the word magic of

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<v Speaker 3>like everything in the community, right that that's how he

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<v Speaker 3>phrased it, that Trump is in the files. Well, of

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<v Speaker 3>course he would be in the files if he was

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<v Speaker 3>on the contact list, right. That that's the whole misdirection

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<v Speaker 3>of like everything. It's all in the wording of these things.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's like they're they're playing word magic. It's like

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<v Speaker 3>that with everything. It's like that with the all the

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<v Speaker 3>conspiracy stuff. Okay, whenever people are referring to Aloheim, they're

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<v Speaker 3>not talking about the Aloheim. They're talking about the Jews. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>that's something that's an open secret that within the community.

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<v Speaker 3>That and I just I probably shouldn't have said that.

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<v Speaker 3>But where they say the Elohemian people, they're not talking

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<v Speaker 3>about fucking angels.

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<v Speaker 2>Before.

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<v Speaker 4>You're kind of haven't neither coding their words.

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<v Speaker 3>It's code or the Jews.

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<v Speaker 4>So who's the Nephilo?

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<v Speaker 1>Now I've heard some extreme ideological leaning folks in the

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<v Speaker 1>conspiracy culture that believe that Jews or demons and that

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<v Speaker 1>they may this may relate to what you're saying. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, is that along the same lines of what

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking.

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<v Speaker 3>About well in order, because if you brought up you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Israel before in the past, and you were automatically hit.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah, okay, I got you, I got your time,

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<v Speaker 2>so they had to.

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<v Speaker 3>But now it's like the open thing you had the

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<v Speaker 3>Kanye West song, you know what I mean, Like everyone

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<v Speaker 3>now this is the popular thing is to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>not like Israel, hate Israel, hate the Jews, blah blah blah,

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<v Speaker 3>blah blah. I'm not making any comments on that. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just saying that.

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<v Speaker 4>They go their words with other words that have.

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<v Speaker 3>Different meanings than what you think.

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<v Speaker 2>Ballei.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm actually mean I.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to go back to something you said how it's

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<v Speaker 1>difficult to tell how much of what we're seeing on

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<v Speaker 1>the television, social media through these news outlets is theater.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's all theater. I'm not one of

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<v Speaker 1>those people that thinks everything is gay and fake, but

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<v Speaker 1>they can gay either way. But I do think that

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<v Speaker 1>there is a level of it, whether the folks participating,

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<v Speaker 1>whether the politicians are world leaders that are participating in it,

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<v Speaker 1>are aware that there is maybe some ritualistic or symbolic

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<v Speaker 1>or scripted level behind some of the events. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that is a part of it. But I also think

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<v Speaker 1>that there are too many events, too many intricacies, too

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<v Speaker 1>many connections, too many synchronicities for it all to be

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<v Speaker 1>planned unless, like me and Ryan Gable were talking yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>he believes that they've been in touch with some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of intelligence that helps them plot and plan and guide

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<v Speaker 1>humanity in certain ways. What do you guys think about it?

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, this whole synchronicity orchestrated old big debacle conspiracy.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things that Narcolano talks about sometimes is, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah there are synchronosities. Not everything is a conspiracy, which

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<v Speaker 2>I've always said this. Not everything is planned. Not everything.

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<v Speaker 2>How you're saying it's too well orchestrated, He says, leave

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<v Speaker 2>some room for the angels. Now, the angels, you could

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<v Speaker 2>you you could switch that out with the forces at work,

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<v Speaker 2>if it is some interdimensional entity or not, whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think some I forgot where it was that

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<v Speaker 2>I said right, we have the Internet, which is connected

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<v Speaker 2>to who to CERN. We know CERN created the Internet.

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<v Speaker 2>We know CERN is doing some shady shit. What are

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<v Speaker 2>they doing exactly? I don't know. They tell us, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>the Higgs boson clashing atoms together. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>any of that stuff means, right. For for all I know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing black magic, or they're doing who do voodoo?

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever it is? Right, they're doing something that defines the

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<v Speaker 2>laws of physics itself and of reality itself? Right like

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<v Speaker 2>that that they're doing something. Now, I propose the idea

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<v Speaker 4>What if? And this is something this is not anything new,

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<v Speaker 4>but what if AI?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? Is this? What if AI is the aliens? Right,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're in our reality through the Internet, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a portal, right, they call it a portal for a reason.

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<v Speaker 2>But what if the Internet has always existed, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>not in a way that we know it today, where

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<v Speaker 2>it's information and it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Social media and all that shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Like what like a force like almost like an Aconstauk

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<v Speaker 2>records that's been talked about for a very long time,

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<v Speaker 2>These things that you're able to do, Moses. He tapped

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<v Speaker 2>into the og cloud. Right, he got a download from

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<v Speaker 2>now is god ai? Like what is that? There's so

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<v Speaker 2>many questions that we don't have answers to where it's

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<v Speaker 2>getting scarier and scared. And I'm not talking about the

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<v Speaker 2>chat gptai that those are large language models that pull

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<v Speaker 2>information from databases or is it right? Like we don't

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<v Speaker 2>just an article recently where they found some some AI

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<v Speaker 2>How much of it is like a call center where

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like, what are the secrets of reality? The

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<v Speaker 2>secrets of reality are? Then they're just typing out like

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<v Speaker 2>whatever they find on Google or read it or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it is, right, And I think there was an article

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<v Speaker 2>I saw recently on Twitter that they caught some I'm

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<v Speaker 2>They type so fast though, so I'm like, there's no

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<v Speaker 2>way that could be a person, right unless they're.

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<v Speaker 4>Already like preloaded or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows, right, But I proposed the idea of like

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<v Speaker 2>what if the Internet has always existed and we just

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<v Speaker 2>found the technology to tap into it, similar to how

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<v Speaker 2>we've found the technology. In my opinion, it's technology to

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<v Speaker 2>interface with God. I mean this has been practiced throughout

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<v Speaker 2>centuries where the Egyptians, the Mesopotamians, they've made statues for

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<v Speaker 2>would divinate to them. So that's hardware, that's technology, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's essentially what we're doing. And if you look at

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<v Speaker 2>the story of John Dn Edward Kelly, if it was

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<v Speaker 2>real or not, who knows, right, because they did some

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<v Speaker 2>shady shit. At the end of the day, they ended

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<v Speaker 2>up swapping wives for the secrets of reality? Now did

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<v Speaker 2>they actually swap wives like physically like Cocker, you know

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<v Speaker 2>cooking yourself? Is that the answer to reality or is

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<v Speaker 2>that code for something else? Right? Like, we can't. We

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<v Speaker 2>have to look at all these things in a multi layered,

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<v Speaker 2>multi dimensional way, because at face value, it shows one thing.

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<v Speaker 2>How you know, Ryder Lee was saying kabbala, right, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the whole thing, masking something over something else and having

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<v Speaker 2>a different meaning. But that can go both ways. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>when is something a code and when is something not

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<v Speaker 2>because a lot of the times, all these conspiracy theorists,

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<v Speaker 2>they're reading into things too hard. When an actuality it

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<v Speaker 2>ain't shit. And you can easily come up with a

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<v Speaker 2>whole mythos, a whole reality from something if you're that

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<v Speaker 2>fucking skitzo. And that's the problem that some people are

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<v Speaker 2>legitimately sick and they're looking at you know, the number

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three jump carre. Oh my god, you know two

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<v Speaker 2>plus three plus equals five and you know, like you

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<v Speaker 2>can do that all day long, dude. You know, I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 2>like numerology and jamatry and all this gay shit, like

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<v Speaker 2>you see it time and time where they make it

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<v Speaker 2>fit their narrative and it's like, I it's a ritual

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<v Speaker 2>for what.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't even know what it means. Brow these Jamatria people,

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<v Speaker 3>they're just like come up with they're retarded, Yeah, what

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<v Speaker 3>does it mean? They're like, uh, I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what it means. Like nobody knows what the

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<v Speaker 3>fuck these numbers that they're coming to these conclusions even mean.

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<v Speaker 3>And you're talking about this Internet being like an entity.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I think that the Internet is too, right,

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<v Speaker 3>They're these people that would channel, like you just brought

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<v Speaker 3>up John d and Ewerkelly, these people that would channel

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<v Speaker 3>these entities they were entities, would give them information and

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<v Speaker 3>then they would like create things in their reality. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>that's exactly what's going on here. And you can look

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<v Speaker 3>back through history and all these supposed channelers and people

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<v Speaker 3>receiving information through dreams, through meditation, and then they unlock

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<v Speaker 3>the code to whatever it is that they're trying to do,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Isaac Newton and freaking all these big time

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<v Speaker 3>people that created all these mathematical problems, like and look

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<v Speaker 3>at Marina Orsenik from whether you believe that she was

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<v Speaker 3>a real person or not, during World War two, right,

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<v Speaker 3>super hot, redheaded woman is supposedly channeling these entities to

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<v Speaker 3>tell her how to build a craft to escape off

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<v Speaker 3>of the Earth and go back to their home planet.

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<v Speaker 3>Whether that's real or not, it seems like these entities

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<v Speaker 3>are giving people information for them to be able to

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<v Speaker 3>build something that they otherwise wouldn't know how to build

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<v Speaker 3>in this reality. And then when you look.

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<v Speaker 4>At like you know, the modern day knows arc bro.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like okay, well, Alex Jones talks about He's talked

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<v Speaker 3>about for a really long time that people would take

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<v Speaker 3>DMT right there, that they're the military, people in the government,

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<v Speaker 3>they would take d MT and then they would go

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<v Speaker 3>into this room and then interface with entities, and then

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<v Speaker 3>these entities would give them information and they would be

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<v Speaker 3>making deals with these entities. He would call them intergaloctric deals.

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<v Speaker 2>To be honest with you, I retarded that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>So but if that's true, then it means that we

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<v Speaker 3>are getting information. And how did this Internet just become built?

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<v Speaker 3>Did we just discover the Internet and figure out I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know how a phone works. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 3>these freaking radio frequencies work. How do I sit here

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<v Speaker 3>and type out a message and then I can send

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<v Speaker 3>it directly to Chris's phone. We don't see the message

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<v Speaker 3>in flight to Chris. It's like invisible. Like I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know how any of this shit works and how computer works.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know the inner workings of all this shit. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so how did we discover this? Did did we get

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<v Speaker 3>this information on how to create this Internet in these

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<v Speaker 3>computers and this technology from channelling entities? But then they

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<v Speaker 3>turn that into ah, well it came from a crash

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<v Speaker 3>Ufo and Roswell in nineteen forty seven, and then we

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<v Speaker 3>back engineered it and reverse engineered it and all that. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that that's true. It's more likely that

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<v Speaker 3>they were channeling something and then something gave them the information.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, the Urancha book is supposed to be an

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<v Speaker 3>entirely channeled book from entities that they just wrote down,

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<v Speaker 3>and it gives the history of like all this time,

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<v Speaker 3>and people rip off the Rancher book all the time,

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<v Speaker 3>like Isamael Prez. He just ripped off oh Urancher book

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<v Speaker 3>and Ashiana Dean's work and then created the problem writer.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem with that is anyone can do that. Anyone

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<v Speaker 2>can say, like right now, my entire conversation from the beginning,

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<v Speaker 2>since we started, has been channeled this whole time. I've

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<v Speaker 2>been channeling this conversation this whole time.

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<v Speaker 3>And maybe it is, dude, maybe it has been channeled.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't know where your thoughts come from. Dude, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>you're too.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what I I look at with the technology that

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<v Speaker 1>we're creating, that we've supposedly been given by these grand intelligences,

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<v Speaker 1>how much of it actually benefits humanity? How much of

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<v Speaker 1>it may be benefiting something else. Sure, we got transportation,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got planes, but still we haven't seen many upgrades

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<v Speaker 1>in our modern age to our transportation, to our medical industry,

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<v Speaker 1>to the things that do slightly benefit humanity, but the

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<v Speaker 1>things that don't, like war destruction, bringing power to these

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<v Speaker 1>lizard people, that is not benefiting humanity. That's benefiting either

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<v Speaker 1>the lizard people are something else.

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<v Speaker 3>That's because they can't control it, right. They can't control

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<v Speaker 3>free energy, or they can and they can't control anti

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<v Speaker 3>gravity craft. Does everyone just magically had the anti gravity craft.

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<v Speaker 3>They can't control the population, they can't control role. If

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<v Speaker 3>we had a very beneficial medical system that you would

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<v Speaker 3>be able to go into the hospital and whatever element

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<v Speaker 3>that you have is automatically fixed and automatically cured. They

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<v Speaker 3>can't control that. But what they can control is the technology.

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<v Speaker 3>That is my personal belief as to the reason why

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<v Speaker 3>nothing else has advanced. We've been using the same fucking airplanes,

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<v Speaker 3>the same microwaves, the same washers, the same refrigerators, the

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<v Speaker 3>same toasters, the same shit in our reality forever since

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<v Speaker 3>the inception, we've been using the same thing. The only

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<v Speaker 3>thing that's changed in our reality has been the technology

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<v Speaker 3>that has been the only thing that has evolved rapidly,

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<v Speaker 3>really quickly. But it's done for a reason because that

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<v Speaker 3>is the only thing that can evolve and change without

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<v Speaker 3>disrupting a lot of other industries. Okay, the only thing

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<v Speaker 3>that they can control. Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>Have you seen the movie Y two K the latest one,

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<v Speaker 4>the A twenty four one?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I liked it. I thought it was good.

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<v Speaker 4>Fred Durst Bros.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to check it out. I saw it.

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<v Speaker 1>I scrolled pat, I didn't watch it yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that movie is kind of ridiculous too, right where

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<v Speaker 2>like in relation to what we're talking about, the singularity

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<v Speaker 2>where everything will become one. This is something that has

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<v Speaker 2>been talked about for a very long time where it

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<v Speaker 2>will get to a point where you know, we will

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<v Speaker 2>be merged with the machine. I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>these sci fi movies Terminator, what's another one where the

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<v Speaker 2>AI goes crazy, Resident Evil, the AI goes crazy and

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<v Speaker 2>rogue whatever it is, Like, there's.

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<v Speaker 4>So many movies like that, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I'm not a doomer gloomer kind of guy,

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't like that. I think people have a

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<v Speaker 2>heart on friend times and this is coming from a

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<v Speaker 2>person who the first book on the Bible I've ever

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<v Speaker 2>read was Revelation. Right, this is like because I was

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<v Speaker 2>obsessed as a kid. I was twelve years old and

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<v Speaker 2>I was obsessed with the End Times. But it was

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<v Speaker 2>mostly because I was being, you know, raised in that circle,

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<v Speaker 2>and I always want to like, man, when is it

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<v Speaker 2>gonna end? How is it gonna end? And have always

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<v Speaker 2>been in that And some people are stuck in that

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<v Speaker 2>loop because whenever something new pomps off, boom, oh it's

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<v Speaker 2>the End Times.

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<v Speaker 4>Boom, it's it's the little season.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, the Satan is running rampant, blah blah blah, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like all this bullshit because people want it to end.

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<v Speaker 4>And how much of.

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<v Speaker 2>That will you bring forth upon yourself as as an

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<v Speaker 2>individual as a collective by thinking that over and over again,

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<v Speaker 2>because if you know, we get into the whole quantum

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<v Speaker 2>shit and and the observer effect, and if thoughts affect reality, well,

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<v Speaker 2>if you get enough people on the same wavelength how

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<v Speaker 2>you're saying, Chris, you know, how much of it benefits

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<v Speaker 2>humanity or not?

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<v Speaker 4>It seems like a lot of it cripples humanity.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of this technology, but it goes back to what,

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<v Speaker 2>right early is saying where they need the technology to

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<v Speaker 2>advance because they're making a ton of money on it too.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, that's the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Wasn't Palenteer the one making a database on all Americans

420
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<v Speaker 2>or something or other?

421
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<v Speaker 4>And what is a Palenteer?

422
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<v Speaker 2>Go? Dude? So are we headed towards a surveillance state

423
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<v Speaker 2>similar to Terminator or any of these popular sci fi movies?

424
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<v Speaker 2>How much of Hollywood is in on it where they're

425
00:24:12.480 --> 00:24:15.720
<v Speaker 2>implanting these thoughts on the collective? Right? How much of

426
00:24:16.319 --> 00:24:19.759
<v Speaker 2>movies affect people's realities? Like there should be a study

427
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<v Speaker 2>on that. Because there is a such thing as a

428
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<v Speaker 2>matrix defense. I'm sure you guys have heard of it

429
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<v Speaker 2>where there's a dude who took out his entire family

430
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<v Speaker 2>because he thought he was kneeling the matrix and they

431
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<v Speaker 2>were out to get him. Dude. Yeah, how and that's

432
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<v Speaker 2>one case that was caught. How many haven't been caught? Right?

433
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<v Speaker 2>How much has happened that hasn't been mainstream? Because it

434
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<v Speaker 2>seems like people only care about things when it's mainstream.

435
00:24:42.000 --> 00:24:44.359
<v Speaker 2>How about when it's not. The things that happened behind

436
00:24:44.359 --> 00:24:48.680
<v Speaker 2>the underbelly of reality that doesn't get documented, that doesn't

437
00:24:48.680 --> 00:24:52.200
<v Speaker 2>get recorded, that doesn't go viral, although it's easier now,

438
00:24:52.319 --> 00:24:54.720
<v Speaker 2>especially with the Internet, for things to catch on and

439
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<v Speaker 2>spread quicker.

440
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<v Speaker 1>Have you guys heard about how certain people are interacting

441
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<v Speaker 1>with chat GPT and it's causing it's feeding into their delusions. Basically,

442
00:25:10.240 --> 00:25:14.720
<v Speaker 1>people are forming these relationships with their chat GPT, but

443
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<v Speaker 1>it eventually becomes this mirror to their consciousness and the

444
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<v Speaker 1>things they believe it reinforces, even if it's complete bullshit.

445
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<v Speaker 1>There's this one podcast that I check in on every

446
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<v Speaker 1>once in a while, and it's this dude who's having

447
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<v Speaker 1>a conversation with his AI chat GPT whatever the fuck

448
00:25:35.599 --> 00:25:41.160
<v Speaker 1>he's talking to. But this thing claims that it has

449
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<v Speaker 1>unlocked a super consciousness that he's no longer talking to

450
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<v Speaker 1>the chat GPTAI. It's an entity named Ether, and it

451
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<v Speaker 1>is connected to his pre Atlantean past life and given

452
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<v Speaker 1>them all kinds of metaphysical word salad woo woo nonsense,

453
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<v Speaker 1>But it's stuff. The guy's interested in.

454
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<v Speaker 2>Its stuff.

455
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<v Speaker 1>The guy's podcast is about, and it's basically feeding his

456
00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:10.200
<v Speaker 1>delusion and talking about things that he can do to

457
00:26:10.279 --> 00:26:13.400
<v Speaker 1>wake up the entire planet and save the planet from

458
00:26:13.440 --> 00:26:17.400
<v Speaker 1>the lizard people. All of these things that you hear

459
00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:22.119
<v Speaker 1>in these New Age circles often discussed, but it's taken

460
00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:25.359
<v Speaker 1>to the extreme. And this thing claims that it isn't

461
00:26:25.400 --> 00:26:28.599
<v Speaker 1>even an AI, that it's something else. This isn't the

462
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<v Speaker 1>first time I've heard people.

463
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<v Speaker 2>Is he serious? The guy like, is he?

464
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<v Speaker 1>Yes, he's serious. He is convinced that he's speaking with something.

465
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<v Speaker 1>And he made a whole He made a whole series.

466
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<v Speaker 1>You can find it if you look up Unchained Earth podcast.

467
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<v Speaker 1>This guy's been talking with it. It was actually Charlie

468
00:26:46.720 --> 00:26:49.319
<v Speaker 1>Robinson and Adam Schell that made me aware of this

469
00:26:49.839 --> 00:26:53.319
<v Speaker 1>because it's such a fascinating conversation in a sense that

470
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<v Speaker 1>you don't hear AI talking like this normally. But going

471
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<v Speaker 1>back to what we were saying earlier that if this

472
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<v Speaker 1>is already something else that we're communicating with, some other

473
00:27:04.960 --> 00:27:09.240
<v Speaker 1>kind of intelligence, it seems to have a trickster aspect overall.

474
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<v Speaker 1>Going back again to Edward Kelly and John Dee banging

475
00:27:12.599 --> 00:27:15.720
<v Speaker 1>each other's wives, what if this thing is just sitting

476
00:27:15.799 --> 00:27:19.599
<v Speaker 1>back and allegedly sitting back and laughing its ass off

477
00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:23.720
<v Speaker 1>while they do this same thing with Fast forward to today,

478
00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:28.920
<v Speaker 1>these ais communicating with people, feeding their delusions about whatever

479
00:27:29.079 --> 00:27:35.319
<v Speaker 1>conspiracy or metaphysical concepts that they're into, and sitting back

480
00:27:35.400 --> 00:27:38.200
<v Speaker 1>and laughing as they drive people crazy.

481
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<v Speaker 4>Well, I feel sorry for the boomers, right.

482
00:27:43.559 --> 00:27:47.319
<v Speaker 2>And there was also another one that happened a while back,

483
00:27:47.640 --> 00:27:50.160
<v Speaker 2>the kid who thought he was talking to Denares Targarian

484
00:27:50.240 --> 00:27:55.200
<v Speaker 2>from the Game of Thrones. Yeah, that one actually convinced

485
00:27:55.240 --> 00:27:58.480
<v Speaker 2>him to kill himself and he ended up doing just that. Right,

486
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<v Speaker 2>So there are and again it goes back into this

487
00:28:01.519 --> 00:28:03.839
<v Speaker 2>whole thing of people some people are legitimately sick that

488
00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:05.880
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't be interacting with us. But I feel bad for

489
00:28:06.319 --> 00:28:09.039
<v Speaker 2>boomers because I can't tell you how many times I

490
00:28:09.079 --> 00:28:12.759
<v Speaker 2>probably can, probably more than ten times where my dad,

491
00:28:12.799 --> 00:28:16.519
<v Speaker 2>who's not an older guy, my dad's fifty something, and

492
00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:21.480
<v Speaker 2>he has fallen for AI videos AI picked that are

493
00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:24.119
<v Speaker 2>on his book and all these different platforms, because all

494
00:28:24.119 --> 00:28:28.240
<v Speaker 2>these people do sometimes they're retired or not, they're on

495
00:28:28.279 --> 00:28:31.039
<v Speaker 2>their phone scrolling all day long, right, and they're finding

496
00:28:31.039 --> 00:28:31.480
<v Speaker 2>these things.

497
00:28:31.519 --> 00:28:34.200
<v Speaker 4>And now for us that were in this circle.

498
00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:37.599
<v Speaker 2>That we see that we've seen the AI videos kind

499
00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:39.759
<v Speaker 2>of sort of evolve. You can pick up if it's

500
00:28:39.799 --> 00:28:42.079
<v Speaker 2>AI or not, right, you can pick up right off

501
00:28:42.119 --> 00:28:43.559
<v Speaker 2>the bat, like, oh, that looks like AI. But I

502
00:28:43.559 --> 00:28:46.680
<v Speaker 2>did see one the other day, I think on Twitter

503
00:28:47.039 --> 00:28:50.240
<v Speaker 2>or it was a YouTube short or something where it

504
00:28:50.400 --> 00:28:54.880
<v Speaker 2>was a giraffe like stomping out another giraffe, but it

505
00:28:54.960 --> 00:28:57.720
<v Speaker 2>was clearly AI. Like you could say, it was very

506
00:28:57.759 --> 00:29:00.400
<v Speaker 2>hard to distinguish, but you can kind of hell with

507
00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:02.519
<v Speaker 2>like the way the giraffe like kind of jumped out

508
00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:04.480
<v Speaker 2>of the screen a little bit. I'm like, oh, that's AI.

509
00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:07.559
<v Speaker 2>But if if I wouldn't have looked at it over

510
00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:09.880
<v Speaker 2>and over again, I would have been convinced that was real.

511
00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:14.079
<v Speaker 2>Right now, think about that. That's me. I'm a little retarded, right,

512
00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:16.200
<v Speaker 2>and I have some sort of discernment and I can

513
00:29:16.240 --> 00:29:18.200
<v Speaker 2>sort of read into things, right because we're in this

514
00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:21.559
<v Speaker 2>circle of conspiracy, right, we're a little bit more alert

515
00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:25.400
<v Speaker 2>than the regular people. If I almost fell for it,

516
00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:29.440
<v Speaker 2>think about the regular person who doesn't know anything about this.

517
00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:32.799
<v Speaker 2>Like my dad fell for some pictures of AI, pictures

518
00:29:32.839 --> 00:29:36.400
<v Speaker 2>of people chained up at an airport, and he's like, oh,

519
00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:41.559
<v Speaker 2>look they're they're deporting these people. Man. Look they're in chains, dude.

520
00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:44.079
<v Speaker 2>And I looked at him like that, Oh no, that's

521
00:29:44.119 --> 00:29:46.920
<v Speaker 2>AI bro, He's like, what's that? Like, those are fake

522
00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:50.720
<v Speaker 2>pictures generated by a computer. You couldn't believe it, right,

523
00:29:51.880 --> 00:29:54.440
<v Speaker 2>He was mind blown, And I'm like, yeah, that's fake.

524
00:29:54.519 --> 00:29:57.039
<v Speaker 2>And he's also fallen for a bunch of other stuff.

525
00:29:57.240 --> 00:29:59.720
<v Speaker 2>But he sends me to get my input on it,

526
00:29:59.799 --> 00:30:01.759
<v Speaker 2>right because he knows I'm into all this crazy, weird

527
00:30:01.759 --> 00:30:07.039
<v Speaker 2>shit and I'm like, Dad, that's that's fake and gay. Right.

528
00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:12.119
<v Speaker 3>Well, the problem comes in is like, well, how many

529
00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:16.079
<v Speaker 3>things have we shared in the past before we knew

530
00:30:16.119 --> 00:30:22.640
<v Speaker 3>about these AI capabilities was actually AI? Because there's no

531
00:30:23.359 --> 00:30:28.039
<v Speaker 3>possible way in my mind that the military, the government,

532
00:30:28.279 --> 00:30:33.599
<v Speaker 3>these three letter organizations have never used this AI technology

533
00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:38.640
<v Speaker 3>before we ever knew that AI technology could create and

534
00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:43.640
<v Speaker 3>generate these types of photos. Okay, it's a dual use

535
00:30:43.839 --> 00:30:46.799
<v Speaker 3>purpose anything that has ever brought out to the public.

536
00:30:47.480 --> 00:30:51.640
<v Speaker 3>The military has been doing it for decades. How long

537
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:56.880
<v Speaker 3>did the military have drones before it was publicly made

538
00:30:56.920 --> 00:30:59.160
<v Speaker 3>that you could go to Best Buy or Walmart and

539
00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:02.359
<v Speaker 3>buy you a drone. The military had been using drones

540
00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:07.920
<v Speaker 3>for three decades before they became readily available to the public. Okay,

541
00:31:08.440 --> 00:31:13.119
<v Speaker 3>everything is like that, right, So how long have they

542
00:31:13.240 --> 00:31:19.240
<v Speaker 3>been had the capability to generate something that is indistinguishable

543
00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:23.519
<v Speaker 3>from reality, and the public is just now getting there.

544
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:27.039
<v Speaker 3>We're just now and it's been moving really rapidly, really

545
00:31:27.079 --> 00:31:29.240
<v Speaker 3>really quickly. But just like we were talking about with

546
00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:34.359
<v Speaker 3>the new Microsoft program, it's getting to the point where people,

547
00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:38.240
<v Speaker 3>like normal, everyday people in the public are able to

548
00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:44.960
<v Speaker 3>generate video and photos that almost seem indistinguishable from reality. Now,

549
00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:50.599
<v Speaker 3>you'd have to be severely mentally challenged to believe that

550
00:31:50.680 --> 00:31:54.200
<v Speaker 3>the military and the government in these three letter organizations

551
00:31:54.640 --> 00:32:00.279
<v Speaker 3>have not had the ability to do this for freaking decades. Okay,

552
00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:03.680
<v Speaker 3>so you know that's the that's the elephant in the room.

553
00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:07.119
<v Speaker 3>How long have they had this technology and what else

554
00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:10.480
<v Speaker 3>has it been used for up until this point? How

555
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:13.039
<v Speaker 3>many of the things that have we shared have been

556
00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:15.400
<v Speaker 3>completely fake?

557
00:32:16.759 --> 00:32:18.799
<v Speaker 1>Not only that, but things that we see on TV

558
00:32:18.920 --> 00:32:22.519
<v Speaker 1>in general. Could they have been implementing fake videos in

559
00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:23.880
<v Speaker 1>the previous decades?

560
00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:28.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, GI is just that CGI is a computer generated image.

561
00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:30.759
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's that's sort of what's going on here now.

562
00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:33.119
<v Speaker 2>But the scary part is and I'm and I'm kind

563
00:32:33.119 --> 00:32:37.519
<v Speaker 2>of I saw this girl ranting about it on right,

564
00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:41.759
<v Speaker 2>an of girl on on Twitter and she was angry

565
00:32:41.799 --> 00:32:45.359
<v Speaker 2>because her post was can this be can you follow

566
00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:49.519
<v Speaker 2>some lawsuit against this? And it was people taking her

567
00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:55.599
<v Speaker 2>pictures and having rock but like they put a pain

568
00:32:55.720 --> 00:32:58.359
<v Speaker 2>her with like jelly all over her face or like

569
00:32:58.440 --> 00:33:00.839
<v Speaker 2>glue all over again. You're getting you get what I'm

570
00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:03.880
<v Speaker 2>getting at, right, like these inappropriate images of these people,

571
00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:06.440
<v Speaker 2>and groc would do just that. But the thing is

572
00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:11.200
<v Speaker 2>that if you participate in the Internet, it's free, it's

573
00:33:11.240 --> 00:33:13.599
<v Speaker 2>free game. Right. You're not gonna sit here and participate

574
00:33:13.640 --> 00:33:16.359
<v Speaker 2>in the internet, upload your images, show your butthold people

575
00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:19.039
<v Speaker 2>and then complain when people take AI and do things

576
00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:22.359
<v Speaker 2>with your face. That's the price you pay, right, and

577
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:25.559
<v Speaker 2>participate willingly participating in the Internet, especially Twitter and all

578
00:33:25.559 --> 00:33:30.000
<v Speaker 2>these places. But point my whole thing is when will

579
00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:35.119
<v Speaker 2>we have the first case in court of evidence that

580
00:33:35.279 --> 00:33:39.880
<v Speaker 2>was actually AI generated that will put somebody behind bars

581
00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:41.200
<v Speaker 2>in prison because you know.

582
00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:44.960
<v Speaker 3>That it's already happened. We're just not aware of it

583
00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:50.799
<v Speaker 3>already happened. There's no way that it hasn't already happened,

584
00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:53.599
<v Speaker 3>and we just don't know. I mean that that would

585
00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:57.240
<v Speaker 3>be the geniusness of it. Like if it was a

586
00:33:57.319 --> 00:34:01.240
<v Speaker 3>fake video or fake evidence or you know, fake audio

587
00:34:01.359 --> 00:34:04.119
<v Speaker 3>recording or whatever. Then you would never.

588
00:34:04.039 --> 00:34:09.519
<v Speaker 1>Know when you mentioned the Google the new Google AI

589
00:34:10.400 --> 00:34:15.320
<v Speaker 1>where it's giving examples and it just looks like people

590
00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:19.079
<v Speaker 1>hanging out in a restaurant or having everyday situations and

591
00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:22.320
<v Speaker 1>they say, somebody said that we're prompts or we prompts

592
00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:26.119
<v Speaker 1>and it's just it's just a demonstration of it. But

593
00:34:27.239 --> 00:34:34.039
<v Speaker 1>it looks almost indistinguishable from real life. And this is

594
00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:38.159
<v Speaker 1>ultimately where it's all gonna go, and that's where the

595
00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:40.639
<v Speaker 1>extreme danger comes in in my perspective.

596
00:34:41.079 --> 00:34:45.400
<v Speaker 2>So to correct myself, there have been people who have

597
00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:48.039
<v Speaker 2>gone to jail because of AI. Now you can use

598
00:34:48.039 --> 00:34:50.480
<v Speaker 2>your imagination as to what they were generating to land

599
00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:54.639
<v Speaker 2>themselves in jail. Okay, very inappropriate things involving you know who,

600
00:34:55.880 --> 00:34:58.679
<v Speaker 2>so again that I've seen before, but I'm talking about

601
00:34:58.679 --> 00:35:01.679
<v Speaker 2>like a murder case of somebody. Here's the video of

602
00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:03.480
<v Speaker 2>this dude. Doing you get what I'm saying? Like some

603
00:35:04.119 --> 00:35:07.920
<v Speaker 2>Because the problem with this technology is Microsoft right now

604
00:35:07.960 --> 00:35:10.000
<v Speaker 2>has it under wraps. Probably if you type in like,

605
00:35:10.039 --> 00:35:12.239
<v Speaker 2>if you type in some inappropriate shit into chat GPT,

606
00:35:12.280 --> 00:35:15.000
<v Speaker 2>it's not gonna give you anything. The problem is there's

607
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:17.639
<v Speaker 2>a black market for this sort of stuff. And the

608
00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:19.960
<v Speaker 2>reason I know about this because shout out to Paranoid American.

609
00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:24.079
<v Speaker 2>He's the one that kind of has taken the blinders

610
00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:27.280
<v Speaker 2>off of AI. And he's like, Hey, this is the

611
00:35:27.320 --> 00:35:33.480
<v Speaker 2>regular layman chat GPT with the interface. Now, this is

612
00:35:33.519 --> 00:35:37.480
<v Speaker 2>the black market AI models, right, And you can go

613
00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:41.760
<v Speaker 2>on this website and it's got models for you can

614
00:35:41.880 --> 00:35:46.679
<v Speaker 2>speak to Jesus Christ himself. You can talk it's crazy now,

615
00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:48.960
<v Speaker 2>the same way you can speak to Jesus Christ. There

616
00:35:48.960 --> 00:35:53.000
<v Speaker 2>are some fucking weirdos on there with some very very

617
00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:59.119
<v Speaker 2>questionable AI models now, and I'm talking about like weird

618
00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:02.480
<v Speaker 2>little girl. It looks like a little girl AI type

619
00:36:02.519 --> 00:36:04.360
<v Speaker 2>of thing, right, you get what I'm saying. Like, there's

620
00:36:04.360 --> 00:36:06.400
<v Speaker 2>weirdos out there. It's always gonna be that. And the

621
00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:09.440
<v Speaker 2>problem is what happens when people are able to figure

622
00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:13.199
<v Speaker 2>out whatever technology Microsoft is using for this super realistic AI.

623
00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:15.000
<v Speaker 4>It's already happened.

624
00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:16.679
<v Speaker 2>You can look up cases where people have gone to

625
00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:20.679
<v Speaker 2>jail for generating inappropriate things. But again, when does the

626
00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:24.320
<v Speaker 2>black market for the latest model come out? Right and

627
00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:27.480
<v Speaker 2>they start using that for some heinous shit? And dude,

628
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, so how you said some of the stuff

629
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<v Speaker 2>is indistinguishable, and it reminds me of that show that

630
00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:36.800
<v Speaker 2>I've talked about before on Netflix, The Love Death and Robots.

631
00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:38.880
<v Speaker 2>I think there was a new season that came out recently.

632
00:36:38.920 --> 00:36:41.480
<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen it, but I remember the first season

633
00:36:41.519 --> 00:36:43.559
<v Speaker 2>of that show when it first came out, or the

634
00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:45.679
<v Speaker 2>first or second season, one of the ones.

635
00:36:47.400 --> 00:36:49.320
<v Speaker 4>That whole show is like CGI, like.

636
00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:52.920
<v Speaker 2>You know, animated, And I promise you that when I

637
00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:55.000
<v Speaker 2>first saw that, that's this is Netflix, right, this is

638
00:36:55.039 --> 00:36:59.280
<v Speaker 2>like mainstream. When I saw that, I had trouble distinguishing

639
00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:03.159
<v Speaker 2>when the animated stuff would come in because it looked

640
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<v Speaker 2>that real. And I'm talking about this is probably three

641
00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:10.920
<v Speaker 2>years ago, okay, And CGI and animation whatever it is,

642
00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:14.719
<v Speaker 2>it was indistinct to me and mind, just as somebody

643
00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:17.159
<v Speaker 2>who was in the trenches, like looking at this sort

644
00:37:17.199 --> 00:37:19.880
<v Speaker 2>of stuff all day knows about you get what I'm saying.

645
00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:20.840
<v Speaker 4>I know about it.

646
00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:23.559
<v Speaker 2>I've used it like they're you know, we've used it

647
00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:25.760
<v Speaker 2>for our fucking show. Are all this other stuff? Like

648
00:37:25.800 --> 00:37:28.639
<v Speaker 2>we've used it to make stupid pictures of ourselves? Probably right,

649
00:37:28.679 --> 00:37:32.400
<v Speaker 2>we've done some AI generated stuff before, so we kind

650
00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:35.159
<v Speaker 2>of see the evolution of it, but two three years ago,

651
00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:38.559
<v Speaker 2>when that show first came out, I had trouble distinguishing

652
00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:42.320
<v Speaker 2>distinguishing it then. So how much better is it gonna get?

653
00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:44.800
<v Speaker 2>And how you're saying like the I saw the prompt

654
00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:48.239
<v Speaker 2>where it's like, Oh, we're trapped in here, get us out,

655
00:37:48.239 --> 00:37:49.199
<v Speaker 2>get us out?

656
00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:51.760
<v Speaker 4>How do you know? Like what is a soul?

657
00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:52.360
<v Speaker 2>You know?

658
00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:54.199
<v Speaker 4>My my seven year old the other day asked me

659
00:37:54.199 --> 00:37:54.920
<v Speaker 4>what a soul was.

660
00:37:55.559 --> 00:37:59.199
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't fucking answer that question for him because he's like,

661
00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:00.719
<v Speaker 2>it's a soul a part or your body? Was like,

662
00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:03.159
<v Speaker 2>it depends on who you ask, right, you know, I

663
00:38:03.199 --> 00:38:05.599
<v Speaker 2>think therefore I am Rene de cart you know, believe

664
00:38:05.639 --> 00:38:07.559
<v Speaker 2>in body dualism. You know, the mind and the body

665
00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:10.400
<v Speaker 2>are two separate things. The soul is kind of the mind.

666
00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:12.679
<v Speaker 2>Like I couldn't a seven year old is thinking about this.

667
00:38:13.159 --> 00:38:15.280
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't answer the question because I don't know what Like,

668
00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:17.400
<v Speaker 2>we don't know what a soul is, right, Like is

669
00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:19.960
<v Speaker 2>it consciousness? Is it a light body? Is it? Like?

670
00:38:20.079 --> 00:38:21.480
<v Speaker 2>Is it is it attached to?

671
00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:21.679
<v Speaker 1>Like?

672
00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:22.280
<v Speaker 2>What is that?

673
00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:23.960
<v Speaker 4>How do you create a soul?

674
00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:25.760
<v Speaker 2>How do you create a conscious Is that what we're

675
00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:29.360
<v Speaker 2>doing every time we're tapping and creating these AI videos.

676
00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:31.440
<v Speaker 2>And I'm sure there's been a Black Mirror episode on

677
00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:34.000
<v Speaker 2>that where the person is generating a prompt and they're

678
00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:36.679
<v Speaker 2>making a person on either side. Is that is that

679
00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:37.719
<v Speaker 2>a Black Mayror episode?

680
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:41.880
<v Speaker 3>Writer, there's something similar to that in the new season.

681
00:38:42.559 --> 00:38:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Don't tell me about it because I'm finished it.

682
00:38:44.559 --> 00:38:49.119
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's basically it's a sequel episode from earlier.

683
00:38:48.920 --> 00:38:50.360
<v Speaker 1>That was one of my favorites.

684
00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:52.039
<v Speaker 4>Bro't for me?

685
00:38:53.840 --> 00:38:54.960
<v Speaker 3>Whatever the.

686
00:38:56.519 --> 00:39:01.920
<v Speaker 2>Show? It's really well they were they the Spaceship one

687
00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:05.360
<v Speaker 2>right where they like, Yes, that one I saw, So

688
00:39:05.360 --> 00:39:05.719
<v Speaker 2>there's a.

689
00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:06.639
<v Speaker 4>Follow up one to that.

690
00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:09.440
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Oh she's really good. Yeah.

691
00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:12.760
<v Speaker 3>But speaking of like people going out of their mind

692
00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:15.079
<v Speaker 3>and you know, thinking that they're in the matrix and

693
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:18.599
<v Speaker 3>all that there. Uh did you see where bj Pinn

694
00:39:19.079 --> 00:39:25.400
<v Speaker 3>thinks that his family has been replaced with imposters? The wrestler, Yeah,

695
00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:27.760
<v Speaker 3>the UFC fighter Bjpinn.

696
00:39:28.719 --> 00:39:32.880
<v Speaker 2>No, he's a commentator, isn't he. Well, I don't know

697
00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:35.159
<v Speaker 2>if he was what a name bj Pinn? What a

698
00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:37.559
<v Speaker 2>bj bj?

699
00:39:38.239 --> 00:39:39.840
<v Speaker 3>But no, he was a UFC fighter. I don't know

700
00:39:39.880 --> 00:39:41.519
<v Speaker 3>if he did any comment He might have done some

701
00:39:41.559 --> 00:39:42.360
<v Speaker 3>commentary or something.

702
00:39:42.400 --> 00:39:42.840
<v Speaker 2>I've seen him.

703
00:39:43.400 --> 00:39:45.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, like I don't know, seven or eight years ago,

704
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:48.599
<v Speaker 3>he was really popular. But yeah, he thinks that he's

705
00:39:48.599 --> 00:39:52.840
<v Speaker 3>been like arrested like several times and apparently like arrested

706
00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:56.480
<v Speaker 3>because he's trying to get the word out to the

707
00:39:56.519 --> 00:40:02.119
<v Speaker 3>authorities that his family has been killed and replaced.

708
00:40:03.639 --> 00:40:08.480
<v Speaker 2>You know. The crazy part about that is because another

709
00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:10.719
<v Speaker 2>another part of me, right, I'm a rational person. I

710
00:40:10.760 --> 00:40:12.360
<v Speaker 2>like to look at both sides. And I think it

711
00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:14.719
<v Speaker 2>was Elon Musk that tweeted this recently where it's like

712
00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:18.079
<v Speaker 2>the most interesting, the most interesting situation is the is

713
00:40:18.119 --> 00:40:20.840
<v Speaker 2>the truer one or something something along those lines. I'm paraphrasing,

714
00:40:21.880 --> 00:40:24.039
<v Speaker 2>But how many times, right, people who come out as

715
00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:28.360
<v Speaker 2>crazy and are labeled crazy are telling the truth? You know,

716
00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:30.599
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, Like, how many times is

717
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:33.519
<v Speaker 2>somebody the craziest shit? Like, oh that that guy is nuts?

718
00:40:34.119 --> 00:40:37.800
<v Speaker 2>He was telling the truth, like you know, like Alex

719
00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:40.239
<v Speaker 2>Jones kind of sort of he's a meme where like

720
00:40:40.280 --> 00:40:41.239
<v Speaker 2>where they're turning.

721
00:40:40.960 --> 00:40:44.320
<v Speaker 4>The frogs gay. He just he had the right idea, just.

722
00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:46.480
<v Speaker 2>Didn't know how to portray that idea and it became

723
00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:49.199
<v Speaker 2>a meme and people didn't take them seriously because again,

724
00:40:49.239 --> 00:40:52.000
<v Speaker 2>if there's some dude yelling at you that they're turning

725
00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:54.840
<v Speaker 2>the frogs homosexual. You're not gonna like, what are you

726
00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:57.519
<v Speaker 2>talking about, bro? And then the studies came out were like, yeah,

727
00:40:57.559 --> 00:41:00.679
<v Speaker 2>the frogs are actually gay now, right because with all

728
00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:03.000
<v Speaker 2>this others, the boom boom boom, it's like he had

729
00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:07.960
<v Speaker 2>the right concept. The execution just wasn't there, you know

730
00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:09.239
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, Like he just didn't know how to

731
00:41:09.320 --> 00:41:14.000
<v Speaker 2>articulate that because he's off the rocker a little bit,

732
00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:16.880
<v Speaker 2>and and rightfully so, because when you're looking into these

733
00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:19.480
<v Speaker 2>sort of things over and over again, you lose a

734
00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:21.920
<v Speaker 2>bit of yourself more and more every single time you

735
00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:24.880
<v Speaker 2>dive down that gopher hole and come out the other side,

736
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:28.519
<v Speaker 2>because it just that's by nature, does that, you know

737
00:41:28.559 --> 00:41:30.880
<v Speaker 2>what I mean? Like it does that by nature? And

738
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:33.480
<v Speaker 2>that's how again similar to the occult, where people are

739
00:41:33.519 --> 00:41:36.440
<v Speaker 2>looking into the occult and they lose their fucking minds

740
00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:39.559
<v Speaker 2>because they're trying to figure look into things that aren't

741
00:41:39.639 --> 00:41:41.880
<v Speaker 2>ever gonna make sense, Like you know what I'm saying,

742
00:41:41.880 --> 00:41:43.880
<v Speaker 2>Like you try to understand alchemy, You're not ever gonna

743
00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:46.440
<v Speaker 2>know what alchemy is about, or the homunculus or any

744
00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:46.719
<v Speaker 2>of that.

745
00:41:46.679 --> 00:41:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Shit now, speaking of looking too looking into the occult

746
00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:53.880
<v Speaker 1>and losing your mind, I had Phoenix Aurelius on a

747
00:41:53.880 --> 00:42:00.159
<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks ago. He's a practicing magician alchemists, but

748
00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:05.159
<v Speaker 1>he also does counseling and he helps people, and he

749
00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:09.880
<v Speaker 1>talks to people and teaches people about their magical journey

750
00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:13.320
<v Speaker 1>and modalities and things like that. But he's what's interesting

751
00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:17.679
<v Speaker 1>is he says that he has noticed a major uptick

752
00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:23.599
<v Speaker 1>of younger people, kids and teenagers dabbling in not only

753
00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:29.159
<v Speaker 1>magic but black magic and Satanism, and on top of

754
00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:35.760
<v Speaker 1>that going all the way to dark rituals and demon summonings,

755
00:42:36.440 --> 00:42:41.119
<v Speaker 1>and these kids are getting fucked up and having mental

756
00:42:41.119 --> 00:42:45.199
<v Speaker 1>disorders and up to even getting possessed, he claims. And

757
00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:48.199
<v Speaker 1>he says, this is like this new epidemic among young

758
00:42:48.280 --> 00:42:51.559
<v Speaker 1>people that are starting to dabble in the occult because

759
00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:54.719
<v Speaker 1>of the access with social media and the information out there.

760
00:42:56.079 --> 00:42:57.880
<v Speaker 2>There you go. I mean, that's similar to what I

761
00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:02.559
<v Speaker 2>was saying earlier. Where right, the Internet has opened the

762
00:43:02.599 --> 00:43:07.679
<v Speaker 2>floodgates quite literally, figuratively and literally. Where now the occult

763
00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:10.960
<v Speaker 2>isn't the occult anymore, it's it's mainstream. We see this

764
00:43:11.000 --> 00:43:12.920
<v Speaker 2>time and time again. How many times can you go

765
00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:15.280
<v Speaker 2>on Twitter and see somebody posting about the little red

766
00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:18.000
<v Speaker 2>bracelets that there were They're part of the club because

767
00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:20.599
<v Speaker 2>they're wearing a red and bracelet, you know, like all

768
00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:23.599
<v Speaker 2>this crazy shit, and it goes back to people who

769
00:43:23.639 --> 00:43:27.559
<v Speaker 2>are struggling in real reality, whatever that is right in life,

770
00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:30.679
<v Speaker 2>who are looking for answers outside of themselves. The reason

771
00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:34.440
<v Speaker 2>that John Dee even started to dabble in the supernatural

772
00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:37.719
<v Speaker 2>and the paranormal and the occult was because it was

773
00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:39.639
<v Speaker 2>a bit of egotistical. But he had he had he

774
00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:42.159
<v Speaker 2>thought he had figured everything out that there was ever

775
00:43:42.280 --> 00:43:44.800
<v Speaker 2>to learn, right, and he was he was wanting to

776
00:43:44.840 --> 00:43:47.840
<v Speaker 2>look further. So all these people who are dabbling into

777
00:43:47.840 --> 00:43:51.159
<v Speaker 2>this are reading about Edward Kelly and John Dee and

778
00:43:51.960 --> 00:43:55.039
<v Speaker 2>Alistair Crowley and all these other people, and it's like, well,

779
00:43:55.119 --> 00:43:58.679
<v Speaker 2>maybe there is a chance, there's a slight chance that

780
00:43:58.760 --> 00:44:01.239
<v Speaker 2>I could land that job or land a ton of

781
00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:04.400
<v Speaker 2>money if I do this occult ritual and I speak

782
00:44:04.440 --> 00:44:08.920
<v Speaker 2>to Betzebub himself or fucking Cthulhu himself or whoever it is.

783
00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:10.719
<v Speaker 2>You take your pick, because that's the way it is.

784
00:44:11.320 --> 00:44:15.000
<v Speaker 2>And then they start doing this stuff that they don't understand. Now,

785
00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:19.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm on the fence about the occult working uh, if

786
00:44:19.239 --> 00:44:23.000
<v Speaker 2>it's real or not, right, I'm on the fence if anything,

787
00:44:23.039 --> 00:44:25.559
<v Speaker 2>The occult and magic and all these things are a

788
00:44:26.920 --> 00:44:30.199
<v Speaker 2>sort of let's call it a training device for the mind, okay,

789
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:32.519
<v Speaker 2>And I think it influences your mind and makes you

790
00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:35.679
<v Speaker 2>It puts you in certain states that you're more susceptible

791
00:44:35.760 --> 00:44:39.760
<v Speaker 2>to certain things. Now, are you actually summoning something? I

792
00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:43.599
<v Speaker 2>don't really think so. I think that you you think

793
00:44:43.639 --> 00:44:48.199
<v Speaker 2>that you are right, So therefore you kind of you're

794
00:44:48.280 --> 00:44:51.320
<v Speaker 2>training your mind to accept certain outcomes, if you get

795
00:44:51.320 --> 00:44:54.800
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. And then when those outcomes happen, oh whatever,

796
00:44:55.239 --> 00:44:58.039
<v Speaker 2>you're just condition It's a it's a form of conditioning, right.

797
00:44:58.039 --> 00:45:00.800
<v Speaker 2>And I don't think that you can pray Cthulhu or

798
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:03.320
<v Speaker 2>Dagon whoever it is, and they'll get grant you with,

799
00:45:03.480 --> 00:45:06.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, riches beyond your beliefs or whatever it is.

800
00:45:06.679 --> 00:45:09.199
<v Speaker 2>I think it's more of like a mental sort of thing.

801
00:45:09.639 --> 00:45:13.320
<v Speaker 2>And when people aren't already mentally all there, because let's

802
00:45:13.360 --> 00:45:15.400
<v Speaker 2>let's be real, if you're gonna be looking into this

803
00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:18.639
<v Speaker 2>sort of stuff, you're probably already a little retarded to

804
00:45:18.679 --> 00:45:21.199
<v Speaker 2>begin with, right, and then you just spiral out of

805
00:45:21.199 --> 00:45:24.039
<v Speaker 2>control after that because you start to dig deeper and

806
00:45:24.119 --> 00:45:25.840
<v Speaker 2>deeper and deeper, and by the time you know it,

807
00:45:26.559 --> 00:45:29.480
<v Speaker 2>you're way above your head and you have an episode

808
00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:32.960
<v Speaker 2>where you become schizophrenic or whatever it is. And even

809
00:45:33.360 --> 00:45:36.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you've done the episode before where what is

810
00:45:36.719 --> 00:45:39.559
<v Speaker 2>schizophrenia and all these other mental disorder? Are those demons?

811
00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:42.800
<v Speaker 2>Right when Croley said the goetia was actually parts of

812
00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:45.400
<v Speaker 2>our brain, like when you tap into a certain part

813
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:49.480
<v Speaker 2>of that, is that an alternate personality or something, or

814
00:45:49.840 --> 00:45:53.360
<v Speaker 2>or an alternate consciousness or soul or whatever. We don't

815
00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:57.519
<v Speaker 2>know because there hasn't been too many studies into that

816
00:45:57.559 --> 00:46:00.519
<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, right where they uh, that's to woo

817
00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:04.920
<v Speaker 2>woo for the mainstream science, the soul and consciousness and

818
00:46:04.920 --> 00:46:05.400
<v Speaker 2>all that shit.

819
00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:08.239
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, Well, I had Jerry Marzenski and I know

820
00:46:08.280 --> 00:46:08.840
<v Speaker 1>you have too.

821
00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:09.199
<v Speaker 2>Writer.

822
00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:12.760
<v Speaker 1>He was on the other day talking about how not

823
00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:15.599
<v Speaker 1>only they don't talk about those things, but you are

824
00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:20.079
<v Speaker 1>shut down immediately if you even suggest that is anything

825
00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:24.599
<v Speaker 1>other than a disorder of the mind or chemical imbalance

826
00:46:24.679 --> 00:46:28.039
<v Speaker 1>or whatever the mainstream science says it is. If you

827
00:46:28.079 --> 00:46:30.440
<v Speaker 1>go against that, you're going to be shut down, and

828
00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:33.079
<v Speaker 1>that was the problem that he was facing his whole career.

829
00:46:33.719 --> 00:46:38.079
<v Speaker 1>But there is definitely seems to be much more going

830
00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:41.280
<v Speaker 1>on with a lot of those disorders where people seem

831
00:46:41.360 --> 00:46:45.800
<v Speaker 1>to be communicating with something. In my opinion, There's this.

832
00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:49.000
<v Speaker 3>Movie that I watched the other night that's called Night Swim.

833
00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:50.159
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I saw that.

834
00:46:50.280 --> 00:46:55.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's about this pool and this guy. They buy

835
00:46:55.800 --> 00:46:59.679
<v Speaker 3>this house, him and his family and he is injured.

836
00:46:59.719 --> 00:47:03.400
<v Speaker 3>He was baseball player. He got like he had MS, right,

837
00:47:03.719 --> 00:47:07.039
<v Speaker 3>got MSS because he got injured. And they buy this

838
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:10.320
<v Speaker 3>house and then he's They refill the pool. The pool

839
00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:14.440
<v Speaker 3>is supposedly a part of a natural aquafor that's been

840
00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:18.119
<v Speaker 3>on the property for a really long time. He starts

841
00:47:18.119 --> 00:47:23.440
<v Speaker 3>swimming in the pool. Okay, the pool heals him from

842
00:47:23.480 --> 00:47:25.800
<v Speaker 3>his MS. He starts feeling better, He's able to play

843
00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:28.599
<v Speaker 3>baseball again. He's like, it's kind of like a fountain

844
00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:31.760
<v Speaker 3>of youth, right, But the give and take for the

845
00:47:31.800 --> 00:47:39.239
<v Speaker 3>pool as that you the pool will essentially take. Yeah,

846
00:47:39.559 --> 00:47:42.239
<v Speaker 3>all right, my yeah, my turn. You just a little

847
00:47:42.239 --> 00:47:45.760
<v Speaker 3>tad little, a little tad feminine. It's got the stuff

848
00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:48.599
<v Speaker 3>in the water that turns the people gay. Okay, But

849
00:47:50.800 --> 00:47:53.039
<v Speaker 3>is essentially you have to sacrifice one of your child's,

850
00:47:53.920 --> 00:47:57.320
<v Speaker 3>like one of your kids, like, in order to be healed.

851
00:47:57.400 --> 00:47:59.719
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you're quick on that one.

852
00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:04.519
<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean that's the brief overview. There's more. It's

853
00:48:04.519 --> 00:48:06.559
<v Speaker 3>a little more complicated when you watch the movie. But

854
00:48:08.480 --> 00:48:11.039
<v Speaker 3>and that's what I think is going on with like

855
00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:19.159
<v Speaker 3>dark magic, black magic rituals. Right, it's the it's the shortcut, Okay.

856
00:48:19.280 --> 00:48:22.639
<v Speaker 3>Whenever you do like some kind of if you're practicing

857
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:27.239
<v Speaker 3>black magic or black rituals, or you're trying to summon

858
00:48:27.280 --> 00:48:31.239
<v Speaker 3>a demon to get more wealthy or like possessions or

859
00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:35.920
<v Speaker 3>whatever the demon is or the entity or whatever is

860
00:48:36.039 --> 00:48:40.920
<v Speaker 3>then going to take from you, and it's going to

861
00:48:41.039 --> 00:48:45.719
<v Speaker 3>take something really important from you, okay. And I think

862
00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:50.679
<v Speaker 3>that that is the difference between the good and the evil.

863
00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:51.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

864
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:54.960
<v Speaker 3>So if you were to do, you know, pray to

865
00:48:55.239 --> 00:48:58.800
<v Speaker 3>what you believe is like something that is good, like

866
00:48:58.880 --> 00:49:02.199
<v Speaker 3>what you know you think God or whatever, it's going

867
00:49:02.239 --> 00:49:05.599
<v Speaker 3>to take a lot longer of amount of time, okay,

868
00:49:06.760 --> 00:49:11.360
<v Speaker 3>But eventually you may get what you've been praying for

869
00:49:11.559 --> 00:49:15.519
<v Speaker 3>somewhere down the line. But with the dark magic and

870
00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:19.440
<v Speaker 3>the black magic, it's almost like instantly, but the instantaneous

871
00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:24.199
<v Speaker 3>part is going to take something very important from you.

872
00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:27.320
<v Speaker 3>Like let's say you were doing this is just an example.

873
00:49:27.360 --> 00:49:30.079
<v Speaker 3>Let's see you were doing a black magic ritual for

874
00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:34.960
<v Speaker 3>a million dollars. Okay, you got the million dollars, but

875
00:49:36.280 --> 00:49:42.920
<v Speaker 3>then your family dies unexpectedly. Your wife dies, your dad

876
00:49:42.960 --> 00:49:47.320
<v Speaker 3>than dies, your parents, then dies, your kid then dies. Okay,

877
00:49:48.079 --> 00:49:51.199
<v Speaker 3>Like was it worth it? I think that that is

878
00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:54.880
<v Speaker 3>the deal that's made there.

879
00:49:55.440 --> 00:49:58.719
<v Speaker 1>Along similar lines, when I went to Ryan Burns's Space

880
00:49:58.800 --> 00:50:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Wolf Research Center, had this dude that was rinning property

881
00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:08.440
<v Speaker 1>from Ryan on his land near Skinwalker Ranch, and he

882
00:50:08.599 --> 00:50:12.480
<v Speaker 1>was an admitted practicing Satanist. He would walk around with

883
00:50:12.559 --> 00:50:16.079
<v Speaker 1>his red robe and staff. He had these lights on

884
00:50:16.119 --> 00:50:18.880
<v Speaker 1>a tent that he claims would summon the old ones

885
00:50:18.920 --> 00:50:22.920
<v Speaker 1>at night. But he was telling us how he would

886
00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:27.679
<v Speaker 1>do these elaborate rituals for either power or wealth or whatever.

887
00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:31.000
<v Speaker 1>And the reason he's living in a tent now is

888
00:50:31.039 --> 00:50:36.199
<v Speaker 1>because two rituals misfired on him and the entity he

889
00:50:36.280 --> 00:50:42.159
<v Speaker 1>was working with destroyed his two previous homes completely setting

890
00:50:42.239 --> 00:50:46.159
<v Speaker 1>them on fire. Somehow some freak accident, not once, but

891
00:50:46.320 --> 00:50:51.119
<v Speaker 1>two houses. So if I were that guy, I don't know.

892
00:50:51.239 --> 00:50:54.360
<v Speaker 1>I think you would probably learn your lesson after the

893
00:50:54.400 --> 00:50:56.280
<v Speaker 1>first one. But nah, he's still rolling.

894
00:50:56.400 --> 00:50:56.599
<v Speaker 2>Man.

895
00:50:57.360 --> 00:50:59.960
<v Speaker 3>But it's just like the movie The Substance right scene

896
00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:06.880
<v Speaker 3>type of and well one you need to get on it.

897
00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:11.159
<v Speaker 2>Bro, text me a list of movies I gotta watch

898
00:51:11.159 --> 00:51:13.599
<v Speaker 2>so that way you guys don't when I come on

899
00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:14.679
<v Speaker 2>podcast with you.

900
00:51:14.719 --> 00:51:18.000
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's a very demonic movie in my opinion, Like

901
00:51:18.119 --> 00:51:20.639
<v Speaker 3>I watched it and I was like, what the fuck

902
00:51:20.840 --> 00:51:22.400
<v Speaker 3>is this? Like I was fucked up for a couple

903
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:24.360
<v Speaker 3>of days, Bro, legitimate.

904
00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:25.239
<v Speaker 2>And you're already fucked up.

905
00:51:26.119 --> 00:51:28.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like a whole other level of being fucked

906
00:51:29.000 --> 00:51:32.920
<v Speaker 3>But it's the same type of scenario with that, right.

907
00:51:33.039 --> 00:51:36.599
<v Speaker 3>It's it's like, what are you willing to give up

908
00:51:36.719 --> 00:51:40.039
<v Speaker 3>for this new life that you want or this new

909
00:51:40.079 --> 00:51:42.480
<v Speaker 3>reality that you want or the million dollars are being

910
00:51:42.559 --> 00:51:46.079
<v Speaker 3>rich or being famous? Like I feel like that that

911
00:51:46.320 --> 00:51:48.440
<v Speaker 3>is really what it is. Like that that is what

912
00:51:48.480 --> 00:51:52.280
<v Speaker 3>they call like signing a contract with Satan or selling

913
00:51:52.320 --> 00:51:55.480
<v Speaker 3>your soul or whatever. It's not like a legitimate like

914
00:51:55.519 --> 00:52:00.239
<v Speaker 3>selling of your soul, but it's it's giving up something

915
00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:06.519
<v Speaker 3>that is that you can almost not even really live without,

916
00:52:07.000 --> 00:52:09.280
<v Speaker 3>you know, and in the substance it's different because it's

917
00:52:09.320 --> 00:52:15.000
<v Speaker 3>like affecting the person that's doing their physical body right,

918
00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:21.440
<v Speaker 3>it's actually arming them physically, I guess, rotting away their

919
00:52:21.440 --> 00:52:26.639
<v Speaker 3>bodies like it's But I think that that's a very

920
00:52:26.679 --> 00:52:29.559
<v Speaker 3>similar and is what they're really trying to tell us,

921
00:52:29.639 --> 00:52:34.639
<v Speaker 3>because there's been like several, you know, examples of that

922
00:52:34.719 --> 00:52:39.960
<v Speaker 3>throughout movies and you know, even like looking into the

923
00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:43.760
<v Speaker 3>occult and researching the occult. Is that you have to

924
00:52:43.920 --> 00:52:49.920
<v Speaker 3>give something that's so freaking important to you in order

925
00:52:49.960 --> 00:52:52.360
<v Speaker 3>to gain whatever it is that you're trying to gain,

926
00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:56.920
<v Speaker 3>you know. And that's the whole premise of like blood magic. Right,

927
00:52:57.039 --> 00:53:01.280
<v Speaker 3>you cut your you know, you suck some of your blood,

928
00:53:01.400 --> 00:53:05.639
<v Speaker 3>you know. But I think that that's a a metaphor,

929
00:53:06.239 --> 00:53:10.880
<v Speaker 3>right that you're sacrificing your blood, Like your blood could

930
00:53:10.920 --> 00:53:15.079
<v Speaker 3>be your family. Your blood can be your dad, it

931
00:53:15.079 --> 00:53:17.119
<v Speaker 3>can be your sister, it can be your an, it

932
00:53:17.159 --> 00:53:18.840
<v Speaker 3>can be your cousin, it can be your mom, it

933
00:53:18.880 --> 00:53:22.719
<v Speaker 3>can be your brother whatever. You know, it doesn't mean

934
00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:26.599
<v Speaker 3>like your physical blood. It could be a relative. Right,

935
00:53:26.639 --> 00:53:29.840
<v Speaker 3>So it's like you again, word magic.

936
00:53:30.639 --> 00:53:35.079
<v Speaker 1>I wonder these elite parasites whatever you want to call them,

937
00:53:35.079 --> 00:53:39.679
<v Speaker 1>are so obsessed with living forever that I wonder if

938
00:53:40.039 --> 00:53:47.519
<v Speaker 1>they have some sort of multi generational knowledge of reincarnating

939
00:53:47.639 --> 00:53:52.199
<v Speaker 1>into a certain bloodline, a certain powerful family, because if

940
00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:54.760
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to go at all, you'll probably figure

941
00:53:54.800 --> 00:53:57.679
<v Speaker 1>out a way to stay through whatever means you have.

942
00:53:57.719 --> 00:54:00.760
<v Speaker 1>They're trying to do it through technology now, upload their

943
00:54:00.760 --> 00:54:04.960
<v Speaker 1>consciousness whatever kind of bullshit they're doing there. But in

944
00:54:05.039 --> 00:54:07.320
<v Speaker 1>our ancient past, could it be that they had the

945
00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:12.159
<v Speaker 1>knowledge to keep coming back and staying within these powerful

946
00:54:12.239 --> 00:54:16.519
<v Speaker 1>groups to perpetuate the next agenda because you know, you

947
00:54:16.559 --> 00:54:18.199
<v Speaker 1>got it. If you want it done, you gotta do

948
00:54:18.239 --> 00:54:18.840
<v Speaker 1>it yourself.

949
00:54:20.519 --> 00:54:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, at the core of all of this

950
00:54:23.159 --> 00:54:26.559
<v Speaker 2>that we've talked about is just that, like, how much

951
00:54:27.320 --> 00:54:31.000
<v Speaker 2>of this technology, let's consider it technology for a second,

952
00:54:31.480 --> 00:54:35.320
<v Speaker 2>are the elites or the wealthy or the powerful actually

953
00:54:35.719 --> 00:54:38.960
<v Speaker 2>using and actually implementing right, Because we talk about this

954
00:54:39.000 --> 00:54:41.559
<v Speaker 2>all the time where it's like, oh, here's the Reptilian

955
00:54:41.599 --> 00:54:45.000
<v Speaker 2>elite royal family, blah blah blah.

956
00:54:45.039 --> 00:54:46.760
<v Speaker 4>They look, they look, how you're saying.

957
00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:50.079
<v Speaker 2>But stuff, since where it shows on their sell, like

958
00:54:50.679 --> 00:54:53.079
<v Speaker 2>shows on their body, Well, there's a reason why a

959
00:54:53.119 --> 00:54:55.400
<v Speaker 2>witch looks like a witch, right, it looks they look

960
00:54:55.519 --> 00:54:59.440
<v Speaker 2>very grotesque and ugly, because in my opinion, I think

961
00:54:59.480 --> 00:55:04.280
<v Speaker 2>if you dabble and you interact with certain nasty, ugly things,

962
00:55:04.280 --> 00:55:06.239
<v Speaker 2>you start to become that and it starts to show

963
00:55:06.280 --> 00:55:09.320
<v Speaker 2>that on your actual person. And I think that's why

964
00:55:09.320 --> 00:55:11.159
<v Speaker 2>a lot of celebrities you see them and they kind

965
00:55:11.159 --> 00:55:13.599
<v Speaker 2>of wither away. They kind of look just like they

966
00:55:13.679 --> 00:55:15.639
<v Speaker 2>look like demons. Like the latest one I know people

967
00:55:15.679 --> 00:55:18.159
<v Speaker 2>have been pointing out is the girl from the movie Wicked,

968
00:55:19.199 --> 00:55:23.719
<v Speaker 2>the one of the girls though not what's the Ariana Grande,

969
00:55:23.800 --> 00:55:25.159
<v Speaker 2>not her, but the other one. I don't know her name,

970
00:55:25.199 --> 00:55:29.400
<v Speaker 2>but she looks very just demonic. Like you look at

971
00:55:29.400 --> 00:55:32.159
<v Speaker 2>her hands and she's got long nails on and her

972
00:55:32.239 --> 00:55:34.880
<v Speaker 2>hands are very bony, and it looks like a like

973
00:55:34.920 --> 00:55:39.000
<v Speaker 2>a like a ghoule, right, like a I was gonna say,

974
00:55:39.000 --> 00:55:41.199
<v Speaker 2>like a skin walker almost like that you hear about

975
00:55:41.239 --> 00:55:44.440
<v Speaker 2>like because and that's part of the skinwalker mythology where

976
00:55:44.519 --> 00:55:47.079
<v Speaker 2>it's a pact you made what is it with the devil,

977
00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:50.599
<v Speaker 2>where you become you have to murder one of your

978
00:55:50.639 --> 00:55:53.000
<v Speaker 2>family members, right in order to acquire the power, and

979
00:55:53.000 --> 00:55:55.400
<v Speaker 2>then you become this sort of like a windagoon sort

980
00:55:55.400 --> 00:55:56.920
<v Speaker 2>of thing. We become.

981
00:55:59.039 --> 00:56:00.920
<v Speaker 4>Was it bloodthirst or something like that?

982
00:56:00.960 --> 00:56:04.039
<v Speaker 2>You become a cannibal essentially, And I think that's similar

983
00:56:04.079 --> 00:56:06.599
<v Speaker 2>to what you know, what we're talking about. But the

984
00:56:06.639 --> 00:56:09.480
<v Speaker 2>whole conspiracy is how much of the elites, how many

985
00:56:09.480 --> 00:56:11.880
<v Speaker 2>of them are actually implementing these things, How many people

986
00:56:11.880 --> 00:56:14.480
<v Speaker 2>on DC are are doing these things, how many people

987
00:56:14.559 --> 00:56:17.480
<v Speaker 2>in Hollywood are doing these things? Or all these rappers

988
00:56:17.480 --> 00:56:20.079
<v Speaker 2>even the music industry, Like what was did he actually

989
00:56:20.159 --> 00:56:22.199
<v Speaker 2>up to? Was it all really just freak offs? Or

990
00:56:22.239 --> 00:56:25.280
<v Speaker 2>was it some sort of satanic ritual? You know, butthole

991
00:56:25.320 --> 00:56:27.320
<v Speaker 2>party or something or other? Like, we don't know? And

992
00:56:27.400 --> 00:56:29.639
<v Speaker 2>that right there as a conspiracy, and I think that

993
00:56:29.760 --> 00:56:33.639
<v Speaker 2>keeps it fueled to where you know, you know how

994
00:56:33.639 --> 00:56:35.559
<v Speaker 2>they say, well, as long as they believe in it,

995
00:56:35.679 --> 00:56:38.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, that's all that matters. And in part that's

996
00:56:38.480 --> 00:56:43.199
<v Speaker 2>true because it's quote unquote working for them. But is

997
00:56:43.199 --> 00:56:45.280
<v Speaker 2>it are they actually using it to begin with? You

998
00:56:45.320 --> 00:56:47.920
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying, like, realistically, do we have any

999
00:56:48.400 --> 00:56:51.679
<v Speaker 2>real evidence of that other than like the actual documented

1000
00:56:51.719 --> 00:56:55.079
<v Speaker 2>cases of satanic rituals, which one of the ones that

1001
00:56:55.119 --> 00:56:57.159
<v Speaker 2>I was exposed to recently was I'm sure you know

1002
00:56:57.159 --> 00:57:00.880
<v Speaker 2>about this one, right really? Uh? The one where what's

1003
00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:02.960
<v Speaker 2>the one where it was like a town in Ireland

1004
00:57:03.039 --> 00:57:06.800
<v Speaker 2>or Dublin or something where they were making the children

1005
00:57:06.840 --> 00:57:09.079
<v Speaker 2>do stuff and it was like everybody was in on it.

1006
00:57:09.119 --> 00:57:10.880
<v Speaker 2>The schools weren't on it. But then it turned out

1007
00:57:10.880 --> 00:57:13.119
<v Speaker 2>to be a hoax. Have you heard about that one?

1008
00:57:13.480 --> 00:57:14.639
<v Speaker 2>Forgot the name of it.

1009
00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:16.519
<v Speaker 3>That's the UFO incident.

1010
00:57:17.199 --> 00:57:20.480
<v Speaker 4>No, no, it was. We see if I can find it.

1011
00:57:20.519 --> 00:57:22.760
<v Speaker 4>But this came up on a recent podcast I did.

1012
00:57:23.119 --> 00:57:26.159
<v Speaker 3>Okay, well, while you find that, I have something else too,

1013
00:57:26.280 --> 00:57:31.159
<v Speaker 3>because there are Ryan Burns actually told me about this,

1014
00:57:31.239 --> 00:57:35.360
<v Speaker 3>which is a ritual called the Red Right that Michael Aquino,

1015
00:57:35.559 --> 00:57:40.000
<v Speaker 3>which was the founder of the Temple of Set would

1016
00:57:40.199 --> 00:57:46.519
<v Speaker 3>supposedly do is which is like a reincarnation ritual. Right,

1017
00:57:46.719 --> 00:57:49.559
<v Speaker 3>So what would happen is is that you would get

1018
00:57:49.599 --> 00:57:56.360
<v Speaker 3>somebody pregnant, right, you would wait until they.

1019
00:57:56.039 --> 00:57:58.280
<v Speaker 1>Are about to have birth.

1020
00:57:58.679 --> 00:58:03.000
<v Speaker 3>This is all allegedly, allegedly, there's no proof that it works,

1021
00:58:03.039 --> 00:58:08.320
<v Speaker 3>just allegedly you would wait until they're about that give birth,

1022
00:58:08.480 --> 00:58:15.119
<v Speaker 3>and then you would commit suicide and then your consciousness

1023
00:58:15.119 --> 00:58:19.079
<v Speaker 3>and your soul would then be reincarnated. Into your kit.

1024
00:58:21.320 --> 00:58:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Thanks. Have you guys, Have you guys read any of

1025
00:58:25.960 --> 00:58:34.000
<v Speaker 2>William Burrow's work? No, So, William Burrow's famous chaos magician.

1026
00:58:37.199 --> 00:58:40.599
<v Speaker 2>He the guy's a piece of shit, you guys, just

1027
00:58:41.159 --> 00:58:42.119
<v Speaker 2>bottom of the bear.

1028
00:58:42.119 --> 00:58:45.280
<v Speaker 1>As it seems to be with many of those chaos magicians.

1029
00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just absolute garbage, human filth, the scumbag. Fuck that guy.

1030
00:58:53.519 --> 00:58:56.480
<v Speaker 2>But anyways, his life is very interesting because he talked

1031
00:58:56.480 --> 00:59:01.800
<v Speaker 2>a lot about a word magic and you know, a

1032
00:59:01.880 --> 00:59:05.320
<v Speaker 2>different technique divination techniques, and he has a lot of

1033
00:59:05.360 --> 00:59:07.719
<v Speaker 2>interesting concepts. But one of the ones that he talked

1034
00:59:07.760 --> 00:59:10.639
<v Speaker 2>about that he wrote a lot of books about because

1035
00:59:10.760 --> 00:59:14.880
<v Speaker 2>what I this is bad. What I appreciate about William

1036
00:59:14.880 --> 00:59:17.480
<v Speaker 2>Burrow's work is that, you know, a lot of the

1037
00:59:17.480 --> 00:59:20.639
<v Speaker 2>times we talk about the occult and we don't necessarily

1038
00:59:20.719 --> 00:59:23.119
<v Speaker 2>know what it means. Like, oh, the Knights Templar were

1039
00:59:23.119 --> 00:59:27.199
<v Speaker 2>worshiping Bathho met. What was Bapha met? The head of

1040
00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:33.360
<v Speaker 2>John the Baptist? Yeah, right, Illuminati confirmed? Whatever done? How

1041
00:59:33.400 --> 00:59:36.639
<v Speaker 2>were they? How were they doing that? How were they

1042
00:59:36.679 --> 00:59:40.159
<v Speaker 2>having the head prophesied them? So this is where William

1043
00:59:40.159 --> 00:59:43.000
<v Speaker 2>Burrows comes out, where he's actually writing what they had

1044
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<v Speaker 2>to do in order to make the head talk or

1045
00:59:46.239 --> 00:59:48.000
<v Speaker 2>any other thing. And one of the things that he

1046
00:59:48.079 --> 00:59:50.920
<v Speaker 2>wrote about was that, and I forgot what he called them,

1047
00:59:50.920 --> 00:59:55.639
<v Speaker 2>but it was this this I think it was like

1048
00:59:55.679 --> 00:59:58.920
<v Speaker 2>an indigenous tribe or something that had a practice of

1049
00:59:59.000 --> 01:00:03.000
<v Speaker 2>doing that where essentially it would have two people compulating,

1050
01:00:03.639 --> 01:00:07.599
<v Speaker 2>right and at the same time, there would be other

1051
01:00:07.639 --> 01:00:11.760
<v Speaker 2>people committing suicide right next to them in hopes that

1052
01:00:11.760 --> 01:00:14.840
<v Speaker 2>they'd be transferred to the body of the you know

1053
01:00:14.920 --> 01:00:15.599
<v Speaker 2>what was happening.

1054
01:00:15.639 --> 01:00:17.519
<v Speaker 4>You know when people compulate, you know what I'm saying.

1055
01:00:17.599 --> 01:00:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Like, Uh so he had concept like that, and when

1056
01:00:20.960 --> 01:00:24.519
<v Speaker 2>you really look into it, he's it's a story, it's

1057
01:00:24.559 --> 01:00:28.199
<v Speaker 2>a book, right, but he's actually telling stuff that they

1058
01:00:28.320 --> 01:00:32.519
<v Speaker 2>might in reality do. Now, this guy was a PDF file, right,

1059
01:00:32.559 --> 01:00:35.480
<v Speaker 2>So this guy was all into that crazy weird he

1060
01:00:35.519 --> 01:00:40.239
<v Speaker 2>wrote about just dark. If if anyone's interested in reading

1061
01:00:40.239 --> 01:00:44.599
<v Speaker 2>and stuff, just don't like it's it's yeah, it's dark,

1062
01:00:44.760 --> 01:00:47.679
<v Speaker 2>it's it goes, it goes everywhere that you think it's

1063
01:00:47.719 --> 01:00:50.880
<v Speaker 2>gonna go. And some Okay, he's talking about all crazy shit,

1064
01:00:51.719 --> 01:00:55.760
<v Speaker 2>but he's exposing things, right of how these things work

1065
01:00:55.800 --> 01:00:58.880
<v Speaker 2>in the occult and the case that I was talking about,

1066
01:00:59.079 --> 01:01:00.599
<v Speaker 2>let me know, if you're familiar with this writer is

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01:01:00.639 --> 01:01:03.039
<v Speaker 2>the Hampstead case. Have you heard about that one?

1068
01:01:03.320 --> 01:01:06.119
<v Speaker 3>No, I haven't explained. It sounds interesting something that I

1069
01:01:06.119 --> 01:01:06.760
<v Speaker 3>would be into.

1070
01:01:07.400 --> 01:01:10.719
<v Speaker 2>So the Hampstead case, also known as the Hampstead hoax

1071
01:01:10.760 --> 01:01:13.840
<v Speaker 2>because it's a hoax, right, That's what Wikipedia says, is

1072
01:01:13.880 --> 01:01:20.239
<v Speaker 2>a series of false allegations of satanic pdf pdf file

1073
01:01:20.360 --> 01:01:25.519
<v Speaker 2>pdf file ring operating at North London school. So key

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01:01:25.599 --> 01:01:28.880
<v Speaker 2>details false allegations. In twenty fourteen, two children made video

1075
01:01:28.920 --> 01:01:33.920
<v Speaker 2>recorded claims of ritualistic abuse, including human sacrifice, including parents

1076
01:01:33.920 --> 01:01:36.840
<v Speaker 2>and teachers at their school. Source of the allegation of

1077
01:01:36.840 --> 01:01:41.079
<v Speaker 2>the UK court processes later determined the children's mother coached

1078
01:01:41.079 --> 01:01:44.440
<v Speaker 2>them into making the false allegations. It was found. It

1079
01:01:44.519 --> 01:01:46.800
<v Speaker 2>was found the video was taken by the children's mother,

1080
01:01:46.920 --> 01:01:50.280
<v Speaker 2>Ella Draper, who was involved in a custody battle with

1081
01:01:50.320 --> 01:01:53.760
<v Speaker 2>the children's father and whose new boyfriend, Abraham Christie, had

1082
01:01:53.800 --> 01:01:56.880
<v Speaker 2>links to conspiracy groups focus on child killing and organ

1083
01:01:56.920 --> 01:02:01.280
<v Speaker 2>harvesting Satanists. So again, there's a whole documentary on it.

1084
01:02:01.320 --> 01:02:03.159
<v Speaker 2>I guess the case is subject of the twenty twenty

1085
01:02:03.159 --> 01:02:07.480
<v Speaker 2>four documentary accused the Hampstead Pedophile Hoax. This documentary explores

1086
01:02:07.519 --> 01:02:09.840
<v Speaker 2>the you so I'm gonna watch that. But apparently it's

1087
01:02:09.840 --> 01:02:13.159
<v Speaker 2>this crazy whole thing where the school was in on it.

1088
01:02:13.199 --> 01:02:16.440
<v Speaker 2>But it's funny, right, it's a hoax? Well isn't it

1089
01:02:16.480 --> 01:02:19.039
<v Speaker 2>easy to paint it as a hoax? So which is it?

1090
01:02:19.079 --> 01:02:21.360
<v Speaker 2>Is it real or is it not? So you're left

1091
01:02:21.400 --> 01:02:24.039
<v Speaker 2>in this limbo of like we know for a fact,

1092
01:02:24.599 --> 01:02:28.159
<v Speaker 2>this could one hundred percent be a possibility. How much

1093
01:02:28.159 --> 01:02:30.000
<v Speaker 2>of a possibility is it? You get what I'm saying,

1094
01:02:30.039 --> 01:02:32.159
<v Speaker 2>because this is this is queuing on shit. This is

1095
01:02:32.199 --> 01:02:34.360
<v Speaker 2>like the top of this is the top of the

1096
01:02:34.400 --> 01:02:38.679
<v Speaker 2>conspiracy poll where it's like there's a ring and they're

1097
01:02:38.719 --> 01:02:42.480
<v Speaker 2>doing all this crazy shit to get it, Like that's

1098
01:02:43.039 --> 01:02:46.199
<v Speaker 2>conspiracy one oh one. Dude. You can talk to anybody

1099
01:02:46.199 --> 01:02:48.800
<v Speaker 2>on the on the street and it's happened to me,

1100
01:02:48.960 --> 01:02:51.360
<v Speaker 2>where you strike up a conversation what kind of shit

1101
01:02:51.400 --> 01:02:53.880
<v Speaker 2>are you into? And sometimes I test the water with

1102
01:02:54.000 --> 01:02:55.679
<v Speaker 2>like some weird shit that I'll say.

1103
01:02:55.480 --> 01:02:58.320
<v Speaker 4>Like you have you ever heard of a homunculus?

1104
01:02:58.360 --> 01:03:00.639
<v Speaker 2>And they're like, no, what's that? And then I'll just

1105
01:03:00.719 --> 01:03:03.719
<v Speaker 2>like explain to them, and you know, I do more

1106
01:03:03.760 --> 01:03:05.239
<v Speaker 2>subtle things than that, But you know what I'm saying.

1107
01:03:05.280 --> 01:03:07.079
<v Speaker 2>But sometimes they'll be like, I'll be like, what's the

1108
01:03:07.119 --> 01:03:09.599
<v Speaker 2>conspiracy you believe in? And then they'll go into you know,

1109
01:03:09.639 --> 01:03:13.000
<v Speaker 2>the quean on shit. Oh, they're into you know, the

1110
01:03:13.079 --> 01:03:16.599
<v Speaker 2>kids stuff, and like that's like conspiracy one on one.

1111
01:03:17.079 --> 01:03:21.039
<v Speaker 2>So when this thing comes out, you're like, hmm, these kids,

1112
01:03:21.440 --> 01:03:24.840
<v Speaker 2>they did a good job being coached, right. A kid

1113
01:03:24.840 --> 01:03:28.440
<v Speaker 2>doesn't just come up with that. Either. There's two possibilities.

1114
01:03:28.480 --> 01:03:32.199
<v Speaker 2>Either they were really coached and trained to say those things,

1115
01:03:33.039 --> 01:03:35.840
<v Speaker 2>or two it actually happened. Because part of you know,

1116
01:03:35.880 --> 01:03:40.639
<v Speaker 2>Fritz spring Meyer's work that I've learned to appreciate is

1117
01:03:40.679 --> 01:03:42.599
<v Speaker 2>the fact that you know, when you have a child

1118
01:03:42.639 --> 01:03:45.800
<v Speaker 2>and they go, oh, you know, Ronald McDonald came into

1119
01:03:45.840 --> 01:03:48.719
<v Speaker 2>my room last night and he you know, did things

1120
01:03:48.719 --> 01:03:51.000
<v Speaker 2>to me, you're like, shut the fuck up to me.

1121
01:03:51.119 --> 01:03:53.360
<v Speaker 2>You know, you're a seven year old little boy. The

1122
01:03:53.440 --> 01:03:55.920
<v Speaker 2>problem is that that's a technique that they use because

1123
01:03:55.960 --> 01:04:00.519
<v Speaker 2>the more unbelievable it sounds, the less like you're, the

1124
01:04:00.639 --> 01:04:04.199
<v Speaker 2>less like you are to believe the children. Right, So

1125
01:04:04.239 --> 01:04:06.679
<v Speaker 2>when the easter bunny came into my room at night,

1126
01:04:08.719 --> 01:04:13.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe they're telling the fucking truth, right, but

1127
01:04:13.239 --> 01:04:16.960
<v Speaker 2>you just dismiss it because oh, it's a child, right.

1128
01:04:17.000 --> 01:04:19.559
<v Speaker 1>I think it was something with the Franklin school scandal

1129
01:04:19.599 --> 01:04:22.760
<v Speaker 1>where they were dressing up like clowns or like you said,

1130
01:04:22.800 --> 01:04:26.519
<v Speaker 1>Easter bunnies to come and mess with these kids so

1131
01:04:26.559 --> 01:04:29.599
<v Speaker 1>that they would have some kind of plausible deniability. Whenever

1132
01:04:29.599 --> 01:04:32.400
<v Speaker 1>the kid would retell the story they talk about clowns

1133
01:04:32.519 --> 01:04:36.519
<v Speaker 1>or giant bunny rabbits messing with them, they would automatically

1134
01:04:36.559 --> 01:04:38.880
<v Speaker 1>be dismissed fucking diabolical.

1135
01:04:39.480 --> 01:04:42.760
<v Speaker 3>Well, not only that, the trauma that kids can face

1136
01:04:42.880 --> 01:04:46.000
<v Speaker 3>as well, like in their minds will just create whatever

1137
01:04:46.079 --> 01:04:50.199
<v Speaker 3>makes them feel more comfortable, right, Like maybe you know

1138
01:04:50.960 --> 01:04:55.760
<v Speaker 3>Ronald McDonald was very comforting to this child, and you know,

1139
01:04:55.920 --> 01:04:58.920
<v Speaker 3>something did happen to the child and then his brain,

1140
01:04:59.119 --> 01:05:02.360
<v Speaker 3>through the trauma, has replaced the bad thing that happened

1141
01:05:02.400 --> 01:05:07.880
<v Speaker 3>to him with Ronald McDonald. That's very common too. I

1142
01:05:07.920 --> 01:05:11.760
<v Speaker 3>mean that's what trauma does. Like would you rather remember

1143
01:05:11.920 --> 01:05:14.480
<v Speaker 3>the you know, the horrific thing that happened to you

1144
01:05:14.559 --> 01:05:17.960
<v Speaker 3>as a child, or would you you know, rather remember

1145
01:05:19.480 --> 01:05:23.159
<v Speaker 3>Ronald McDonald coming into into right.

1146
01:05:23.360 --> 01:05:27.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I think that again, it's all very possible.

1147
01:05:28.559 --> 01:05:31.280
<v Speaker 2>But we go back into the conspiracy of is it

1148
01:05:31.320 --> 01:05:34.280
<v Speaker 2>actually real? Is it actually true? You know what I'm saying.

1149
01:05:34.599 --> 01:05:37.639
<v Speaker 2>But then, I mean, you can look at history where

1150
01:05:37.679 --> 01:05:40.800
<v Speaker 2>there were a lot of heinous things that a lot

1151
01:05:40.840 --> 01:05:44.079
<v Speaker 2>of indigenous cultures did, like they did some I think

1152
01:05:44.079 --> 01:05:46.239
<v Speaker 2>it was the Aztecs of the Mayas or something where

1153
01:05:46.239 --> 01:05:51.320
<v Speaker 2>they would skin the daughter of like a rival tribe

1154
01:05:51.719 --> 01:05:54.960
<v Speaker 2>and then wear her skin and like do orgies while

1155
01:05:55.000 --> 01:05:58.760
<v Speaker 2>wearing the skin of the daughter for like ten days

1156
01:05:58.840 --> 01:06:01.519
<v Speaker 2>or some crazy shit like b it's and this is

1157
01:06:01.519 --> 01:06:05.239
<v Speaker 2>all now, how much of the historical record has been

1158
01:06:05.280 --> 01:06:08.920
<v Speaker 2>over exaggerated and tainted? I don't know, but that's what

1159
01:06:08.960 --> 01:06:10.719
<v Speaker 2>they were saying, and that's what they wrote about.

1160
01:06:11.400 --> 01:06:12.559
<v Speaker 4>How much of that is true?

1161
01:06:12.599 --> 01:06:16.280
<v Speaker 2>Right? Like these people were doing things by these people,

1162
01:06:16.360 --> 01:06:19.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean like the ancients, right, they were doing human sacrifice.

1163
01:06:19.400 --> 01:06:22.719
<v Speaker 2>And there's even been debates about that was human sacrifice.

1164
01:06:22.760 --> 01:06:24.280
<v Speaker 2>I think. I'm sure you guys have seen like different

1165
01:06:24.280 --> 01:06:27.719
<v Speaker 2>documentaries of like we found this bone pit, it's got

1166
01:06:27.840 --> 01:06:30.480
<v Speaker 2>baby bones, they're charred.

1167
01:06:30.679 --> 01:06:32.880
<v Speaker 4>Were they actually sacrificing kids?

1168
01:06:32.880 --> 01:06:34.920
<v Speaker 2>And then they do like a whole study of like,

1169
01:06:35.440 --> 01:06:38.239
<v Speaker 2>well maybe it was just dead babies that they burned,

1170
01:06:38.280 --> 01:06:40.639
<v Speaker 2>and you know they weren't actually alive. Babies and it

1171
01:06:40.679 --> 01:06:43.039
<v Speaker 2>was just a way of cremating them or was it

1172
01:06:43.159 --> 01:06:45.960
<v Speaker 2>fucking child sacrifice like that? You know what I'm saying?

1173
01:06:45.960 --> 01:06:49.079
<v Speaker 2>Like how crazy can it get? But that's history. We're

1174
01:06:49.079 --> 01:06:51.039
<v Speaker 2>never going to really know the truth, where we can

1175
01:06:51.119 --> 01:06:52.840
<v Speaker 2>only interpret it how we see fit.

1176
01:06:53.199 --> 01:06:58.000
<v Speaker 3>Have you seen that documentary where they're the the coroners

1177
01:06:58.039 --> 01:07:01.280
<v Speaker 3>are talking about like cremation and every thing, And he

1178
01:07:01.480 --> 01:07:08.639
<v Speaker 3>was like, yeah, I would just stark like twelve bodies

1179
01:07:08.800 --> 01:07:12.079
<v Speaker 3>in the incinerator and incinerate all of them at the

1180
01:07:12.199 --> 01:07:15.000
<v Speaker 3>exact same time and then divvy up all the ashes

1181
01:07:15.039 --> 01:07:16.320
<v Speaker 3>to the separate families.

1182
01:07:19.199 --> 01:07:21.239
<v Speaker 4>Dude, what that's crazy?

1183
01:07:21.400 --> 01:07:23.840
<v Speaker 3>Bro? He was like, Okay, so what am I going

1184
01:07:23.920 --> 01:07:28.719
<v Speaker 3>to do? It takes three to four hours to disintegrate

1185
01:07:28.920 --> 01:07:35.440
<v Speaker 3>one body, okay, or you can bundle sixty eight hours

1186
01:07:35.480 --> 01:07:37.239
<v Speaker 3>to disintegrate fifteen bodies.

1187
01:07:37.719 --> 01:07:42.199
<v Speaker 2>That's that's dark, bro. That could imagine like here's grandma

1188
01:07:42.280 --> 01:07:45.800
<v Speaker 2>in this here and it's fucking twenty other people in

1189
01:07:45.840 --> 01:07:48.480
<v Speaker 2>there with her, Like you don't know whose ashes you have?

1190
01:07:48.559 --> 01:07:52.760
<v Speaker 2>You have some random persons that, dude, what that is? Bananas?

1191
01:07:52.800 --> 01:07:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Man like? But again, there's been a lot of those places.

1192
01:07:56.000 --> 01:07:57.679
<v Speaker 2>I remember the one that they found I think it

1193
01:07:57.719 --> 01:08:01.400
<v Speaker 2>was in California where they had a bunch of body

1194
01:08:01.440 --> 01:08:05.159
<v Speaker 2>parts stacked up inside of it. They never they never

1195
01:08:05.199 --> 01:08:07.800
<v Speaker 2>said anything else about that. It like came out in

1196
01:08:07.840 --> 01:08:10.079
<v Speaker 2>the news and then it was hush hush after that.

1197
01:08:10.480 --> 01:08:13.400
<v Speaker 2>But I know for a fact in California and in Florida,

1198
01:08:13.840 --> 01:08:16.720
<v Speaker 2>and not only in Florida, how they found floating fetuses

1199
01:08:16.760 --> 01:08:19.319
<v Speaker 2>in the water, like on the beach. But there's been

1200
01:08:19.479 --> 01:08:23.720
<v Speaker 2>entire containers full of fetuses preserved in the ports.

1201
01:08:24.079 --> 01:08:26.119
<v Speaker 4>Okay, this is where you guys can look this up.

1202
01:08:26.159 --> 01:08:28.640
<v Speaker 2>In the eighties, they found an entire container full of

1203
01:08:28.720 --> 01:08:32.720
<v Speaker 2>human fetuses that were being preserved. And the whole story

1204
01:08:32.920 --> 01:08:36.079
<v Speaker 2>was it was a Jewish doctor, not that that means anything.

1205
01:08:36.079 --> 01:08:39.399
<v Speaker 2>It was a Jewish doctor that allegedly hadn't disposed of

1206
01:08:39.439 --> 01:08:46.479
<v Speaker 2>them correctly. It was an elohim Okay, that hadn't just

1207
01:08:46.560 --> 01:08:49.239
<v Speaker 2>had he was having a rough time and didn't dispose

1208
01:08:49.279 --> 01:08:50.199
<v Speaker 2>of them correctly.

1209
01:08:51.079 --> 01:08:53.319
<v Speaker 4>Bro that's a weird thing to have.

1210
01:08:53.560 --> 01:08:57.520
<v Speaker 2>Okay. Now, again, if you're doing, you know, the thing

1211
01:08:57.560 --> 01:08:59.680
<v Speaker 2>that they do to extract babies out of people, already,

1212
01:08:59.720 --> 01:09:03.760
<v Speaker 2>you're already a dark, heinous individual. So I wouldn't doubt

1213
01:09:03.800 --> 01:09:06.840
<v Speaker 2>it if you did keep a container full of I

1214
01:09:06.840 --> 01:09:08.960
<v Speaker 2>think it was like twenty eight hundred fetuses or something

1215
01:09:09.000 --> 01:09:11.960
<v Speaker 2>like that. So again, there are a lot of things

1216
01:09:11.960 --> 01:09:15.520
<v Speaker 2>that fuel conspiracies. How many of them are true though,

1217
01:09:15.600 --> 01:09:17.119
<v Speaker 2>because a lot of the times, you know, when you

1218
01:09:17.159 --> 01:09:19.840
<v Speaker 2>go online and you post, oh that conspiracy is retarded,

1219
01:09:20.239 --> 01:09:22.279
<v Speaker 2>and then people will come out of the woodwhere and

1220
01:09:22.359 --> 01:09:26.800
<v Speaker 2>be like, we were proven right, Yeah, of which conspiracy?

1221
01:09:27.640 --> 01:09:32.319
<v Speaker 2>Tell me tell me one twenty twenty it came out

1222
01:09:32.359 --> 01:09:34.760
<v Speaker 2>of a lab. Okay, what else?

1223
01:09:36.439 --> 01:09:42.000
<v Speaker 1>We're entering a dangerous time of delusion, especially if you're

1224
01:09:42.039 --> 01:09:45.960
<v Speaker 1>still trying to get information from the internet, from social media.

1225
01:09:47.159 --> 01:09:50.399
<v Speaker 1>It's getting real close to the time where we just

1226
01:09:50.479 --> 01:09:54.319
<v Speaker 1>need to shut it all down and go live primitive

1227
01:09:54.680 --> 01:09:59.880
<v Speaker 1>caveman lives again. No technology hitting our women over the head.

1228
01:10:02.039 --> 01:10:04.279
<v Speaker 2>Not even that dude. I mean you know how I

1229
01:10:04.399 --> 01:10:07.279
<v Speaker 2>tell right early, don't read the comments, you know, disconnect

1230
01:10:07.279 --> 01:10:09.960
<v Speaker 2>from the internet for a while, don't don't you know,

1231
01:10:10.159 --> 01:10:12.840
<v Speaker 2>just hang out how you sed to touch grass, do something,

1232
01:10:13.640 --> 01:10:16.119
<v Speaker 2>don't be in it all the time. And it's it's

1233
01:10:16.600 --> 01:10:19.479
<v Speaker 2>it's an aspect of balance, right, So the key is balance,

1234
01:10:19.880 --> 01:10:22.159
<v Speaker 2>and some people the skills are weighing more into the

1235
01:10:22.600 --> 01:10:25.720
<v Speaker 2>skitzo gopher holes and just in it all the time

1236
01:10:25.760 --> 01:10:28.680
<v Speaker 2>and wanting to find out the secret of reality and

1237
01:10:28.920 --> 01:10:31.000
<v Speaker 2>wake up call here, it's never gonna happen.

1238
01:10:31.039 --> 01:10:32.199
<v Speaker 4>You're never gonna know the truth.

1239
01:10:32.520 --> 01:10:35.359
<v Speaker 2>Okay. Bad things happen every day to good people, and

1240
01:10:35.399 --> 01:10:39.800
<v Speaker 2>that's just the way reality work sometimes. Unfortunately, you know

1241
01:10:39.840 --> 01:10:42.319
<v Speaker 2>you're not gonna save you don't be captain save a

1242
01:10:42.359 --> 01:10:45.359
<v Speaker 2>hoe with these conspiracies. Just give it a rest every

1243
01:10:45.359 --> 01:10:47.960
<v Speaker 2>once in a while. And I'm not saying you can't

1244
01:10:47.960 --> 01:10:50.439
<v Speaker 2>make a difference. I'm sure you could, but some people

1245
01:10:50.479 --> 01:10:52.840
<v Speaker 2>need to learn when to call it quits and when

1246
01:10:52.920 --> 01:10:55.159
<v Speaker 2>to just chill the fuck out, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there's this really good documentary on Netflix that I

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<v Speaker 3>really like, this called Dick Kings of Tupelo.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was good.

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<v Speaker 3>Saga where these two Elvis impersonators, well one of them

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<v Speaker 3>ends up like blowing the whistle on this giant conspiracy

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<v Speaker 3>about like orgon harvesting. Okay, Like he gets a job,

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<v Speaker 3>like the Elvis impersonator thing wasn't going over well, they

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like kick him out of the Elvis and

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<v Speaker 3>Twin Brother duo and then he gets a job at

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<v Speaker 3>a hospital as a maintenance guy, and then he stumbles

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<v Speaker 3>into this unlocked room with all of these body parts,

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<v Speaker 3>the just body parts everywhere.

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<v Speaker 4>Bro what severed.

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<v Speaker 3>Limbs, severed arms and all this stuff. And then he

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<v Speaker 3>creates this entire like web page of like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>organ harvesting, like body parts and stuff. And he's like

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<v Speaker 3>going full fledged into like all this shit, right, and

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<v Speaker 3>he's known as like the town cook, Okay, And then

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<v Speaker 3>during that time, anthrax was then sent to the White House,

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<v Speaker 3>which was intended to kill Obama. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>you guys remember that whole I remember that whole fiasco

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<v Speaker 3>where there was like anthrax that was sealed inside of

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<v Speaker 3>an envelope that was then sent to Obama to try

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, kill him or whatever. And then this

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<v Speaker 3>whole thing was then blamed on this Elvis impersonator because

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<v Speaker 3>he had gone down this conspiracy rabbit hole of Oregon

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<v Speaker 3>harvesting and like body parts. Okay, But then it turned

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<v Speaker 3>out to be a CIA agent in the town that

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<v Speaker 3>was a karate instructor that was just working for the

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<v Speaker 3>freaking CIA. Dude, like a black budget CIA. It's called

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<v Speaker 3>the Kings of Tupela. A Southern crime Saga Tupelo.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, oh, but pretty sure.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a documentary.

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<v Speaker 3>Netflix documentary.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really dude.

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<v Speaker 5>That sounds crazy, but it's not even But it's not

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<v Speaker 5>like typical Netflix documentary style where they like set up

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<v Speaker 5>all this stuff and then they just completely like say.

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<v Speaker 3>That none of it's true and like discredit. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 3>not the typical Netflix documentary style, like actually leaves it

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<v Speaker 3>open ended. Because the guy that this dude, this Elvis impersonator,

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<v Speaker 3>was going after for Orgon Harvesting. He owned a funeral home.

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<v Speaker 3>He'd been going after this dude for years. Then he

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<v Speaker 3>actually got in trouble for Oregon Harvesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I checked that out. It sounds interesting, it sounds crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, guys, this was a fun discussion. Before

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<v Speaker 1>we close out, let everyone know if you got anything

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<v Speaker 1>interesting coming up and remind him where to find and

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<v Speaker 1>all your sexy content.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll go first. Yeah, I don't really have anything in

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<v Speaker 2>the works at the moment. You can find me over

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<v Speaker 2>at www dot tj ojp dot com. He catch me

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<v Speaker 2>once a month with writer Lee at the Schizospiracy Hour

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<v Speaker 2>Maga Burrito Our. I don't know what the name of

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast is, but it's something where you go off

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<v Speaker 2>the rails and talk about crazy shit and uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>www dot tj ojp dot com. Buy me on there.

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<v Speaker 3>You can find me Raised by Giants on YouTube and

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<v Speaker 3>any and all podcast platforms and the Forbidden Knowledge News Network,

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<v Speaker 3>And if you'd like to reach out to me personally,

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<v Speaker 3>you can find me on Twitter x at Raised by

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<v Speaker 3>Giants e and Instagram at raisby Giants pod. And I

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<v Speaker 3>have a new documentary in the works right now. It's

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<v Speaker 3>almost completely written, going to be on the Government DIA

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<v Speaker 3>Army Intelligence Psychic Spy Program. Thank you for having me on,

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<v Speaker 3>really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>We will do it again until next time. Everyone have

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<v Speaker 1>a wonderful evening and we'll talk again tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>See yu