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topic again is Operations Sea Spray and we covered it
five years ago and I'm sure we mentioned it during
radio shows and other podcasts, but this is gonna kind
of tie into other events and for Dietrich. But the
bigger picture, how in the world did we let people
get away with this? Nobody asked to be part of
this experiment, right. It goes from Operation Sea Spray to
you know, COVID, the the threats get injected. You know,
you can't say you live in a free society and
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I think that's all. That's yeah, that's all the housekeeping.
Operation Sea Spray as always give you the official narrative.
It was a nineteen fifty US Navy and secret biological
warfare experiment in which Sarah sh Marskins and Baculus trophius.
Speaker 4: I'm sure I said that wrong.
Speaker 3: The bacteria were sprayed over the San Francisco Bay in California.
So this is post World War two, right, And when
we always talk about how the landscape changed so drastically
in World War Two. And if you think of the successions,
the succession of events right the end of World War Two,
obviously with Stalin, the millions and millions of people killed
in Germany and all around the world post World War Two, right,
your history book kind of says the good guys win
the end, everybody goes home. Nothing could be further from
the truth. Then, of course, the state of the geopolitical
state of Israel is born and then you know, all
of these things take place operations c spray, MK Ultra,
the hippie movement that was not organic. Read Dave McGowan's
book Weird Scenes, on and on and on right all
the way through COVID. Like I said, right, So, the
whole meaning behind this was to determine how vulnerable a
city like San Francisco may be to a bio weapon attack.
And there's been speculation that the experiment has indeed contributed
to deaths and illnesses, and again it's always more than that.
That's just what's reported, and the fact that one person
got slightly ill is wrong. And you don't know what
happened to these people two years down the road, five
years down the road. So again, the official narrative is
starting on September twentieth, nineteen fifty and continuing all the
way until September twenty seventh. So a week the US
Navy released two types of bacteria from a ship off
the shore of San Francisco. Based on results from monitoring
equipment at forty three locations around the city, the Army
determined that San Francisco had received enough of a dose
for nearly all of the city's eight hundred thousand residents
to inhale at least five thousand of the particles. Now,
I want you to remember this, this is just five
years after the end of World War two, right, and
have they just you know, five years ago they write
the Numberg Code. Well, actually, here we go. Nineteen forty
seven explicitly states that voluntary, unco worse consent is mandatory
for physical autonomy and human experimentation for who being.
Speaker 4: Force, fraud or duress.
Speaker 3: Now is there any way, shape or form that you
can say that this wasn't force? So again, October eleventh,
people start checking into the hospital. They say ten people recovered.
Was a gentleman by the name of Edward Nevin who
had recent prostate surgery. He died three weeks later. Urinary
track was a big deal at the time. That was
one of the the big side effects.
Speaker 4: But again there was zero evidence.
Speaker 3: That the army had alerted health authorities before it blanketed
the region with bacteria. And again, this is three years
after they wrote the Nuremberg Code. They are spraying without
consent and entire city. That was seventy six years ago.
What do you think they've done since? Well, look up,
even though Hollywood tells us don't look up, right, but
look up. They spray us every single day, every single day. Now,
what's in the news, Some new form of COVID that's
affected twenty five states or something like that. Yeah, here's
NBC news. Do you have the new COVID variant flu
or other viruses? It's called the BA three to two
nicknamed Sakata. It's still circulating, doesn't Sikata have some end
times meaning to it as well? Right, along with other
respiratory illnesses and stomach bugs. So they are pushing b
A three to two, which again, if you go back
and look b A. Baculus atrophius, hmm, you mean what
they're spraying us with. It's exactly what it is. Yesterday
we were outside, wife went off to work, me and
my daughter. We looked up and the camtrails were so wide,
the sky was so covered.
Speaker 4: And that's what they're doing.
Speaker 3: The spring is to make us sick. Their sprang is
to try to keep us from the creator. There's many
reasons they're doing it, but again, the fact that seventy
six years ago they sprayed an entire city, not just
poisoning a well, they sprayed an entire city and made
people ill without giving anyone. You know, hey, we're looking
for people you want to test this out.
Speaker 4: We'd be willing to pay you.
Speaker 3: This will cover your medical expenses down the road.
Speaker 4: What do you think.
Speaker 3: No, they just sprayed an entire city, and of course
seventy like it always does. Twenty seven years later, a
US Senate Subcommittee on Health and Scientific Research, they held
a series of hearings where they disclosed the existence of
the tests, and Army officials noted that the pneumonia outbreak
and their testimony, but of course they said any link
to their experiments totally coincidental.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: And then in eighty one, Nevin's surviving family members actually
filed suit against the federal government alleging negligence and responsibility
for his death, as well as financial and emotional harm
caused to his wife, of course from the medical cost. Now,
the lower court ruled against them, primarily because the test,
I should say, the bacteria used in the test was
unproven to be responsible for Nevin's death. Now, the family
did appeal all the way to Scotus the Supreme Court,
which declined to overturn lower court judgments. So once again
the corporation covering for the corporation. So in those Senate
that the Senate Subcommittee hearings, they did reveal the following.
Between nineteen forty nine and nineteen sixty nine, open air
tests of biological agents were conducted two hundred and thirty
nine times. That's not a misprint. They've done that two
hundred and thirty nine times. In eighty of those experiments,
the armiesaid it used live bacteria that its researchers at
the time were thought were harmless. They thought bacteria was harmed.
We have a satanic evil government.
Speaker 4: I mean, I've been.
Speaker 3: Doing this for six years and it's to the point
where we just read it off. So matter of factly,
between nineteen forty nine and nineteen sixty nine, our governments
sprayed us with biological agents two hundred and thirty nine times.
We gotta go, gotta go to work, got to pick
up Johnny from school, Gotta work sixty hours a week
so we can pay for our four dollars a gallon
gas and two hundred dollars a month for insurance. It's
just disgusting the things that are going on right that
they send our children off to endless Wars, Vietnam, Desert Storm,
Iraq weapons of mass destruction. All the while we're getting
poisoned right here at our home by the same people
who we're supposed to be looking out for us. In
the nineteen fifties, Army researchers dispersed zinc cadmium sulfide, a
known cancer causing agent, over Minnesota. Maybe that explains a
few things I shouldn't.
Speaker 4: I'm not laughing about it.
Speaker 3: Just you know, Minnesota over the last few year has
been interesting and other Midwestern states to see how far
they would spread in the atmosphere. There's nothing funny about
it at all. The particles were detected more than a
thousand miles away in New York State. So they did
an experiment in Minnesota and the Midwest, and those particles
were detected all the way to New York State. In
New York, military researchers in nineteen sixty six spread Vaculus
subtleus variant called Niger, also believed to be harmless, in
the subway system, by dropping light bulbs filled with the
bacteria onto tracks in stations in midtown Manhattan. The bacteria
was carried for my throughout the subway system. Army officials,
and again, these guys are always investigating themselves concluded in
a January nineteen sixty eight report that similar covert attacks
with pathogenic disease causing agents during peak traffic periods could
be expected to expose large numbers of people to infection
and subsequent illness or death.
Speaker 4: But wait, there's more.
Speaker 3: In a May nineteen sixty five secret lease of Baculus
globag at Washington's National Airport and its greyhound bus terminal,
more than one hundred and thirty passengers were exposed to
the bacteria and traveled to thirty nine cities in seven
states in the two weeks following the Mark attack.
Speaker 4: But Wuhan, the wet market in Wuhan.
Speaker 3: They've been doing it right here in this country since
the end of World War Two.
Speaker 4: The people who.
Speaker 3: Are sworn to defend you and protect.
Speaker 4: You are poisoning you. Think about it.
Speaker 3: You got you know the fall of nineteen fifty. San Francisco,
beautiful city, right fog rolling in.
Speaker 4: Nobody knows the.
Speaker 3: Navy is out there spraying bacteria into the air to
see how a major American city would respond to a
biological attack. This isn't a test. I mean, this is
this is for real. Nobody signed up for this. It's insane,
it is insane. So and this is not for glory,
this is no story. This is legitimate and nobody oh,
no accountability. Right, So again their objective was let's see
how vulnerable an American coastal city would be.
Speaker 4: Right. So you have the National.
Speaker 3: Research Council tracing the origins of the American biological warfare
back to the beginning of our involvement in World War Two,
and once again Secretary of War Henry Stimpson asking for
a secret study of a biological warfare possibility, and once
again our good friends at Fort Dietrich they were chosen
as the center of this large scale research and development.
So again, Sea Spray did not emerge out of anywhere, right,
it came out of an established national security apparatus that
was already to build seriously about germ warfare. But the
bigger picture is Sea Spray isn't just about a local
San Francis story. It's one field test inside a broader
American biological warfare program that sought to understand not only
the pathogens themselves, but delivery systems atmospheric spread A city's
vulnerability and population exposure. How much do we have to
disperse to make these people sick? And again we are
talking way before I was ever born. This stuff was
going on, and I'm twenty nine. PBS is summary of
the era places the San Francisco release along other secret
field tests performed by military units associated with Camp Deetrick
at the time, and it's Special Operations divisions. So the
pattern's clear here, right. We're going to start with these
small controlled tests and then larger real world experiments meant
to simulate how a biological strike might actually work in
an American city. So San Francisco was a natural choice
from the military's point of view, large dense coastal framed
by terrain and water in ways that made it useful
for studying how an aerosol cloud might move through an
urban environment. So through reporting and drawing on later records
and interviews, it notes that the military specifically wanted to
know whether a small vessel offshore could release a biological
agent that would ride the inland air and blanket a
city like San Francisco or even parts of the East Bay.
So the bays, fog and the wind patterns were variables
in this experiment. That's why they chose San Francisco. Wasn't random.
So obviously you know, we're told it takes place September
of nineteen fifty. Now do differ slightly on the exact
start dated in later summer, but again the core event
is what we discussed earlier. Navy vessel offshore and how
many people on that ship knew what was going on?
Somebody had to know, right. The Smithsonian reports that the
spring began from a Navy mind sweeper about two miles
off shore and continued for again six or seven days,
describes the experiment as lasting eight days six to eight
days the different reports.
Speaker 4: I think it was q quid.
Speaker 3: Those small differences in later retellings don't change the central fact.
The military deliberately released bacteria into the air over the
Bay area.
Speaker 4: From a ship at sea.
Speaker 3: So again the bacteria chosen for the test was Seratia
marskins I'm sure I said that wrong, and Baccius globogi,
the latter often described in historical accounts as this simulant
organism that is used to mimic the behavior of more
dangerous biological agents. If you are indeed a subscriber to
the germ theory. At the same time, military researchers believe
these materials were either harmless or sufficiently harmless for open
air testing. Oh, if they get a cold, they'll be okay, right,
So their goal was to have something detectable, but they
claim they weren't trying to get anybody sick. Right now,
They do note that the ceratia marscanins was attractive for
this kind of experiment because it could be detected readily.
It's something that was detectable, and for a test you
obviously need something that is detectable.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: Again, at the same time, it was regarded as not
normally dangerous to healthy people. So again that was the
basis of their quote unquote ethical defense of the test.
Speaker 4: Well, it was supposed to be safe.
Speaker 3: Again, it doesn't matter if you are going to include
somebody in a test that in any way, shape or
form puts something in their body, you need consent. And again,
it wasn't random, it was measured, it was observed, it
was data driven. The military set up I think it
was forty three sampling stations around the San Francisco area
to track the cloud determine how far it traveled. According
to many outlets. Those stations showed the aerosol spread across
the city and beyond, well into the East Bay communities,
with detections reported as far as twenty three miles away.
And that's important because it means the operation was not
a rough guess or a one off stint right. This
was an organized urban dispersion study that is designed to
quantify exposure and prove that a biological agent released offshore
could move through a metropolitan area on a very large scale.
So the military's own conclusions, as summarized and later reporting
and historical retrospectives, were very interesting. Now PBS again, the
source says that the San Francisco experiments showed exposure amongst
all of the city's eight hundred thousand residents, almost all
of the city's eight hundred thousand residents now kqued. KQED
quotes the army summary and even more grete terms, at
normal breathing rates, every one of the city's eight hundred
thousand people exposed to the cloud did one hundred percent
inhale five thousand or more of these fluorescent particles.
Speaker 4: Think about it.
Speaker 3: That shows what the military believed, what it was learning.
They were not merely checking to see if the bacteria
would drift inland. They were validating their delivery concept. So
you know, they did it under the guise of, you know,
could a hostile power, you know, use an aerosol cloud
offshore to expose a dense civilian population, right, And that
was the reason. They always have their reason, their alibi.
The National Research Council's historical overview makes it clear that
the larger biological warfare program was deeply invested in weapons
systems production, on the large scale developmental operations and sea spray.
It fit that logic perfectly. It was a proof of
concept test that was carried out over an open air city. Unbelievable.
Nobody in the public was ever informed. There was no consent,
no warning, no opportunity for people to opt out. You know,
if you don't want to be here, you'll have to
leave the city for seven days, you know, and that
whole week, you know, it's the fall. People open their windows,
people went to their jobs, the school children moved throughout
the city. And listen, man, if this was me or you,
we'd be swinging from the gallows pole, right, I mean,
one hundred percent. But because a person does it under
the guise of US Army or US Navy or Fort Dietrich.
That's okay, I don't think so. So even before we
get to the illnesses, the lawsuits, the Senate hearings, the
wider pattern of domestic testing, that the basic facts are
the deeper issues again, the US military, the US government
acting under the banner of national security. And it's time
and time again, whether it's the Patriot Act, whether it's
COVID because of national security, treats Americans as a testing environment,
as if we're secondary, as if we don't matter. And
I tell people all the time, and I look forward
to kind of talking about this with Matt next week.
You know, being sovereign, not just being told you're free,
but being free, the things that go on, asking permission
for everything.
Speaker 4: Paying taxes.
Speaker 3: You know, you pay thirty thousand dollars a year in
taxes to be poisoned by the people you pay taxes to.
Speaker 4: It's egregious. Whatever you know.
Speaker 3: That you pay in taxes, and I mean for everything,
your property taxes, your income taxes.
Speaker 4: Even y'all who live in.
Speaker 3: Florida and Texas, right, I don't think they have income taxes.
They get you with sales taxes. They get you coming,
they get you going. You want to go to their university,
You're going to pay seven thousand dollars a semester.
Speaker 4: It's just getting blood out of a turnip. Right, you'd
think that.
Speaker 3: We'd be hooked up, they'd be taking care of it. Well,
we give you social Security, Well we paid for that, right.
It's just unbelievable that this is one egregious example of
thousands that we've been inundated with in this country. So
you know, again this bacterium is rarely seen as the
cause of a serious disease. But again it did appear,
and well, I don't think we'll ever know truly the
long standing issue of what happened with that experiment long term, Right,
we talked about Edward Nevin and that lawsuit.
Speaker 4: It didn't work out for him or his family.
Speaker 3: The military again had released Ceratia marcisans into the air
over San Francisco, and that within that short period, patients
that were already in a hospital at a major hospital
developed infections that were caused for that organism. Right, And
we only know one got maybe others did right for
every one thing like with Verhirs, right for every one
person who reports. For every one to five person that
actually takes the time to report, we know there's one
hundred that don't. So I always say multiply those numbers
by at least one hundred. So imagine this that major
hospital in San Francisco. Hospitals, by definition, contain people with
weakened immune systems, with surgical wounds, with invasive devices. Now
a bacterium that may not harm a perfectly healthy eighteen
year old person, Right, it is going to behave differently
in inside a clinical setting. How many people got sick
and died the following week, the following month, early in
nineteen fifty one, Right.
Speaker 4: We'll never know.
Speaker 3: But again, the government experts and later legal arguments emphasized
that causation had not been proven. Really, you sprayed the city.
You should pay every citizen something. Right, If I go
donate plasma, you get paid something. If you volunteer to
try the new pharmaceutical, you're going to get paid something.
You just sprayed an entire city. I don't care if
you think it's harmless or not. There is no like
milk's good for you. Well, it's good for most people,
but there are people who are allergic to it lactose intolerant.
You can't just say one thing is okay for everyone.
Everybody's system is a little different. And unfortunately, mister Nevin
and his family not only lost the lawsuit, but lord
knows how much money that family lost in legal fees. Right,
at minimum, the case did force the government to acknowledge that, yes,
the test had occurred, but again, it did not produce,
pardon me, a definitive ruling that the experiment caused the infection.
Courts ultimately sided with the government, largely on the grounds
that causation could not be scientifically established after so many
years and without conclusive strain identification. So, and this is
what they do. They kick the can down the road
because that passage of time takes this sting off the effects,
and that time that passed works heavenly in the favor
of uncertainty. Right, Records weren't complete, samples were not available, right,
they want the science, where's the microbial fingerprints? Well, it's
not around yet, right, So they weren't capable of making
that kind of precise comparison that modern laboratories today could perform.
But the legal outcome, who cares what the legal outcome
was that didn't resolve the ethical question. Even if you accept, right,
you love the government, you want to make America great again.
Even if you accept the government's position that causation was
not proven, the underlying issue remains unchanged. A civilian population
was exposed to bacteria without consent, and within that population
where individuals at higher risk of infection, and one of
those individuals, mister Nevin, died after contracting contracting the same organism.
Speaker 4: Used in the experiment.
Speaker 3: So again the other layer to the controversy is what
doesn't get enough attention. So again, the entire defense of
Operation Sea Spray depended on the assumption that the Ceratia
masquersons were harmless. And again that reflects a quote unquote
scientific understanding if you will, of the time, but it
was incomplete. But now people say, yeah, siatia can cause infections,
particularly in hosp hospital hospitalized patients who have weak immune systems,
the elderly. Right, So the very population most vulnerable to
harm was the population that was least considered in the
planning of the experiment. So the whole controversy surrounding Edward
Nevin illustrates a deeper problem. When these experiments are conducted
in secret, without medical overseeing, without you know, even consent.
My goodness, you can't trace the consequences.
Speaker 4: It's impossible.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you. If all that were monitored, collected in
environmental samples, they tracked exposure data, I think people would
be blown away by the numbers. Would people actually rise
up and be angry and demand accountability?
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3: We're a very passive, you know population. We're more inundated
with what's going on right in front of us.
Speaker 4: Right, the ballgames.
Speaker 3: Are candy crush, right, those type of things. Working, boy,
in America, we love to work, don't we. We brag
about working eighteen hours a day.
Speaker 4: We were in class last week and.
Speaker 3: One of the one of my classmates, lives in I
think it's the Dominican Republic, and she was blown away.
Speaker 4: You know, she came here.
Speaker 3: For a while to visit. She's like, you all live
to work. She's like, you guys brag about working twelve, fourteen,
sixteen hours a day. She's like, we all live in
a house together, our family. She said, we worked to live.
We worked just enough to pay the bills, and every
dinner's a feast and family time were not inundated by
our cell phones.
Speaker 4: It's just a whole different.
Speaker 3: Perspective, and we brag about it.
Speaker 4: How you doing I'm doing good?
Speaker 3: I pulled an eighteen hour yesterday trying to close the deal.
We brag about it. Are we that worried about chasing
the almighty dollar? Is that the legacy we're going to leave?
Speaker 4: George? He was rich. You see the kind of car
he drove. Who cares? Get you from point A at
point B? Who cares? If it does your job? You
can haul my chicken feed? Who cares? So you know,
if you look at the broader.
Speaker 3: Pattern of open air testing, if operation Sea Spray had
been a one time anomaly, it would still be disturbing, right,
we should still demand accountability. But the deeper story was
that San Francisco was one of many, many, many, many experiments.
And as more records began to surface in the nineteen seventies,
you know, whether it be the Church Committee and investigative
reporting when it still was around, it became clear that
Sea Spray was one piece of a much larger testing
program that was carried out over years across multiple cities,
transportation systems, populated regions. And again, what had been presented
as an isolated Cold War experiment. Again, it turned out
to be part of a coordinated effort to study, again,
this is what they say, biological and chemical agents, how
it might spread amongst civilians in a.
Speaker 4: Real world environment.
Speaker 3: And yeah, some of it came out during hearings in
the Senate in the seventies. But again they're only going
to disclose what they want to disclose. They only disclosed ten,
maybe twenty percent of the truth, just enough to say, yeah,
we told you so. But they don't outlie the deep truth.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: Testimony and release documents described hundreds I say again hundreds
of field trials conducted by military units tied to now
Fort Dietrich and related programs. These trials used simulant materials, again,
substances at the time believed to be harmless, at least
that's what they tell us to observe how particles move
through the air. And again we told you how they
did it through water, through subways and city landscapes, and
what they did in New York City in the subway system,
dropping light bulbs filled with bacteria onto subway tracks to
measure how quickly an aerosol cloud would spread through the
underground network. So these trains moving through tunnels, they were
acting like pistons, pushing air through stations and carrying particles
over long distances. And that experiment demonstrated that a biological
agent released at one point could disperse throughout the entire system.
So passengers riding those Traine trains, pardon me, they had
no idea they were participating in this test. And then,
of course there's the one that doesn't get talked about enough,
and DC the release of zinc cadmium sulfide, which is
a fluorescent tracer used to study dispersion over populated neighborhoods.
They used them in airports, bus terminals, more coastal environments.
Some released bacteria from rooftops, some from vehicles. Some of
the tests studied how atmospheric conditions affected drifts across city
blocks into residential areas. But the fact that they were
releasing these agents in a real civil million setting with
zero consent, right, that's what makes it significant. Because the
consistent absence of informed consent in test after test, populations
across this country were never notified in advance, and of
course the justification was the same every time the materials
were believed to be harmless, and secrecy was necessary to
preserve the realism of the experiment. Right, it's always for
the country, it's always for our protection. No way, shape
or form, should we be forced to be a guinea
pig without consent, period? Right From their perspective, well, if
we warned the public, it.
Speaker 4: Would distort the results. Yeah, okay, whatever makes you.
Speaker 3: Sleep at night, pal, Right, that's what I say. So again,
this wasn't about just San Francisco. It was a developing
mindset that have viewed American cities and Americans period as
testing grounds for defensive planning, all under the guise of
the Cold War, Right, the war that nobody ever died,
and that created an environment where worst case scenarios dominated
strategic thinking.
Speaker 4: Right, the Bay of Pigs.
Speaker 3: And oh we almost had a nuclear catastrophe and everything else.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: There's the argument that, well, this program was compartmentalized, Different
agencies and units conducted tests under different names. There was
no public oversight. They claim that even local officials like
mayors of these cities were not even informed, which I believe. Right,
the federal government is not going to inform unless said
mayor is part of the club right, like a New
York City mayor.
Speaker 4: I'm sure he knows. Right, they're all part of that club.
Speaker 3: So you should understand the shift by now, right, sea
spray operations, sea spray.
Speaker 4: It's not just about one city in nineteen fifty.
Speaker 3: It is really part of a broader question.
Speaker 4: How often.
Speaker 3: Are I don't want to say we're because, but we're
and currently are civilians exposed in the name of research?
Certainly twenty twenty one hundred percent. They're spraying us every day.
They're they're not hiding it anymore. Yeah, we're spraying you. Sorry,
It is what it is. So a little bit about
Fort Dietrich and how things ran a quick overview. It
was the field application that was built up during World
War II and then expanded into the fifties. Right, That
was the system of Fort Dietrich, you all know, the
hub of the biological warfare program. It was established again
during World War Two. It was known as the nation's
primary research center for biological defense and offense.
Speaker 4: You've got to have a.
Speaker 3: High degree of security clearance to get in there. Scientists,
military planners, intelligence officials.
Speaker 4: They all were together under the secrecy.
Speaker 3: Right, So by the late forties they started taking their
research outside of the laboratories. The question you have to
ask is who was the individual who signed off on that?
Was it the president? So are you telling me that
they sprayed a city without the president's consent? So remember
Truman was the president at the time this happened.
Speaker 4: Se Spray.
Speaker 3: Now they claim there is no public record showing that
Truman personally signed off on Operation se Spray itself.
Speaker 4: They claim.
Speaker 3: That most Cold War testing programs were authorized at the
program level, then executed by the military or defense agencies
without each individual test getting back to the president. I
personally have a hard time believing that. Right now, I
get it, the president authorized the research, the DoD sets
the framework, military carries out specific tests. But you can't
tell me that even if he didn't sign off on
it initially, that he didn't get the paperwork back saying this.
Speaker 4: Is what we did.
Speaker 3: So yeah, you would have to say that he approved
the program overall. Did he personally sign off on knowing
that it was sprayed? I believe so you would have to. Right,
There's no way a general, even a four star general,
is going to spray a pathogen on aus civilian without
the authorization of the United States President. Now again, the
official narrative is that he signed off on the program,
but he didn't necessarily say, you know, sign off on
that particular operation.
Speaker 4: Of course, I'm not going to say he did.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 3: President's not going to risk his legacy over something like that.
But it always goes back to plausible deniability. Right, the
ships are offshore, the vehicles and cities released time with
wettern patterns, weather patterns.
Speaker 4: Pardon me, right.
Speaker 3: They just wanted answers that only real world testing could provide,
and from the planner's perspective, this was defensive. They argued
that understanding vulnerability would allow the country to protect itself
that would affect the numbers. So they were blurring the
line between defense and experimentation. Right, That's what it's always about.
They always have an answer, right, and if you question it,
you hate your country. That's what they make it sound like. Right,
how dare you?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: So, once the government builds a structure that's capable of
experimenting on its own population, the barrier of true freedom
is gone.
Speaker 4: We are not sovereign citizens. See you next week.
Speaker 3: Right, again, the Cold War provided the justification communism. We
better send our boys to Vietnam to save the world. Okay,
we had to do it for national survivor survival, right,
But that's all about the Hegelian dialect. Those arguments, if
you allow them, if you seek them as permissive, they
will create a dangerous precedent because if secrecy can excuse
exposing one city, well then they're going to do it
too many. Right, you guys know, the machinery doesn't stop itself.
It will continue until something or someone forces transparency. And
Fort Dietrich represents that machinery, right. That is science fused.
Speaker 4: With military.
Speaker 3: And in this case, ethics are subordinated to strategy. Ethics
don't come first, is what I'm saying. And when decisions
are made behind closed doors that affect you and I
will they tell you, well, you voted for it. Nobody
voted for this. That's why I keep telling people if
you think voting is going to make a difference for
anything at the federal level, I've got a bridge to
sell you. And as a matter of fact, buy one,
get one free this week. I trust our government like
a submarine with a screen door.
Speaker 4: No thank you.
Speaker 3: So, just this broad history of all these government programs
that have exposed civilians, patients, service members, which we mentioned
week or two ago, right, all the conscientious objectors, which,
by the way, they're reports of.
Speaker 4: They are seeing.
Speaker 3: A level of conscientious objectors within the military right now
with the Iran thing going on, it's interesting. But what
about the Tuskegee syphilis study.
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: For decades hundreds of men were observed with the progression
of untreated syphilis, even after effective treatment became available.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: But it was justified as a scientific observation.
Speaker 4: But as always with.
Speaker 3: Our government, it relies on deception and the withholding of care.
The ethical violation wasn't just the disease. It was the
decision to treat people as data points rather than individuals
with rights. Then look at our intelligence world, the cias
ultra right secret testing of drugs, psychological techniques, many cases
unwitting participants being drugged, dosing, or being dosed i should
say without their knowledge. But it was all because of
national security. We need to understand mind control, right, interrogation, resistance,
how to influence behaviors. Right, but it's always under the
guise of national security. By the way, there was also
radiation experiments in the fifties patients and hospitals were exposed
to radioactive substances to measure biological effects.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 3: By the way, service members were placed near nuclear sites
to observe true readiness. Again, it's all about preparedness, right.
So what ties these cases together with Operation Sea Spray.
It's not that so much they were identical. They were
all carried out by different agencies with different goals, and
of course they were using different methods. The common thread
was the philosophy behind them. The decision makers believed that
the stakes, whether it was war security, scientific advancement, it
was justifying their actions, so they would bypass informed consent,
and in each case that population affected was not fully
aware of the risks. In each case, secrecy delayed accountability,
and Sea Spray fits that direct lineage. The bacteria released
over San Francisco, Well, they're harmlessed right, framed as defensive.
But you can't, in any way, shape or form, assume
that the right to make the decision for others is yours.
Speaker 4: It's not. It is not.
Speaker 3: Sea Spray is one of the clearest examples of a
biological test conducted over a civilian population without consent. I
should say the public right, because I don't think we
truly know what's going on now. Of course burium aluminum.
There's lots of YouTube videos. Even with a recent snowstorm
that destroy our property, it's not the same. They are
altering out the weather. But accountability always happens well after
the fact that people have been And when I say accountability,
that's the wrong word to use. Disclosure there's no accountability.
But disclosure ever happens until people.
Speaker 4: Are sick and there's nothing they can do about her. Right.
Speaker 3: So when we question official narratives here in the truth community,
we get portrayed as irrational, Right, you're blowing things out
of proportion, or even the real people who have their
blinders on, they just say, we're nuts.
Speaker 4: Right, what are you talking about?
Speaker 3: Camtrails? And this is why I like to show sea spray,
because you.
Speaker 4: Know, tell that this is something. You know.
Speaker 3: We make trifles and we pass them out. We had
a listener last month, I think she was from Montana.
She passes out trifles about vaccine. She puts them in
diaper boxes in the store. So when mom gets home
opens the box or the bag of diapers, there's a
track in there talking about vaccines. There really needs to
be one on chemtrails, but particularly there should I'm going
to make one about Sea Spray.
Speaker 4: I guarantee you you.
Speaker 3: Know we talk about If you ask one hundred people
at Walmart, did they know about Building seven?
Speaker 4: Maybe five?
Speaker 5: Do?
Speaker 3: I think it's come out a little more in recent years.
I do think since COVID there have been more people
waking up.
Speaker 4: But I bet you you're lucky if.
Speaker 3: You find one person in a hundred if you stood
in front of Walmart, you ever heard of Operation Sea Spray?
Speaker 4: Have you ever heard of Operation Seespray? Ninety nine? People
probably don't.
Speaker 3: There might be that one guy listening to the fact
hunter shout out that has heard of it. But we
need to make a tract. Yeah, like a trifle, I
should say, pardon me a trifle with this information on it,
because this is actually one of the one you can
google and the Wikipedia will come right up, and it's
very open about it. It's not like many other conspiracies
that you put in and it hides it.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: It's powerful, and this might this one little thing from
seventy six years ago maybe enough to open some people's
eyes to bigger things. Right, we all have our journey.
Some people woke up to the big conspiracies right away.
And I don't know how y'all do it. I had
to start with the little ones, so I was willing
to look at the next one.
Speaker 4: So I was willing to look at the next one.
Speaker 3: Then wow, Waco, really, Oklahoma City, you're kidding me?
Speaker 4: Nine to eleven.
Speaker 3: And then after that it's like, well, of course it
became obvious that everything was a lie. But this is
a big one because it's documented, because it's out there,
and they won't try to hide the truth. So create
a trifle. I'll work on that today tomorrow, in the
next forty eight hours. And if what is this, it's
lunchtime on Tuesday, March thirty. First, if you hit me
up by Thursday, I'll have it done, you know, hit
me up in an email. I'll email it back to
you if you want to print them out.
Speaker 4: I think it's important to.
Speaker 3: Get this out to the general public, right and again,
we're not about to again. I don't want people to
be freaking out and worry and lose sleep at night, right,
but it's important. It is so important that people understand
that these powerful institutions can, without our consent, make decisions
that affect our everyday lives, that can affect our health.
Speaker 4: It is a big deal.
Speaker 3: This connects a broader moral reflection. These hidden actions that
not just our government, but people associated with it, you
know what I'm talking about, right, Whether carried out by
individuals or these particular institutions, they don't remain hidden forever.
Speaker 4: Eventually we at least get a glimpse of the truth.
Speaker 3: This was one of them. It reminds us that secrecy
may postpone accountability, but it doesn't always eliminate it. And
again I use that term accountability. I'd rather use disclosure
because nobody was ever held accountable and the one gentleman
who we know died from it, his family didn't get
accountability outside of them admitting it.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: But again, I don't want people to stay up all
night worrying if they're getting sprayed. Look at scripture, Look
at Luke twelve two and three. Jesus says nothing concealed
will remain hidden, and nothing secret will not be known
or brought into the open, right, And that's really the context.
Speaker 4: Of this episode.
Speaker 3: That's the passage that resonates strongly here. Sea Spray was
conceived in secrecy. It was execute it in secrecy, and yeah,
it was kept hidden for a couple decades, but eventually
the detail surfaced, the experiment entered public record, and it's
part of history.
Speaker 4: Again. That's why we need to.
Speaker 3: Get it out, because it is documented, and even though
yet I'm sure it's only the partial truth, it's enough
to slap people in the face. So it's more about condemnation,
it's about awareness. When people understand events like Operation Sea Spray,
they are better equipped to way claims they are. They'll
become more discerning, right, they will examine authority. Hopefully the
next time they will ask more questions when they're in
their doctor's office and he pulls out of a needle, what's
in that doc?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: Maybe? Just maybe?
Speaker 3: So you know, Sea Spray began with a cloud drifting
over San Francisco, but it ends today with a reminder
that decisions made in secrecy carry consequences long after the
fog clears, and as scripture suggests, what is hidden does
not remain hidden forever. So if you want a copy
of I'm going to make a trifold. I'll work on
that probably tomorrow. I'll have it done by Thursday. If
you like one where you can just open up PDF
or whatever. I'll make it so I can just email it.
You can print it off.
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