WEBVTT 1 00:00:30.679 --> 00:00:34.880 Welcome back to the Inquisition Podcast. Everybody, the panel reconvenes 2 00:00:34.880 --> 00:00:37.759 with a very special guest, Darryl Cooper from Martyr Mate 3 00:00:37.840 --> 00:00:38.079 is here. 4 00:00:38.159 --> 00:00:39.880 Darryl, thank you so much for joining us. Man, it's 5 00:00:39.880 --> 00:00:40.439 great to have you. 6 00:00:41.079 --> 00:00:43.000 Yeah, it's great to finally be on here with you guys. 7 00:00:43.039 --> 00:00:44.920 Every time I listen to a show, I'm jealous that 8 00:00:44.960 --> 00:00:45.759 I'm not here so. 9 00:00:46.759 --> 00:00:49.000 Well, your name's come up since before the show even 10 00:00:49.039 --> 00:00:50.679 started as one of the guys we'd like to join 11 00:00:50.719 --> 00:00:52.359 the panel someday. So I'm glad to bring it to 12 00:00:52.439 --> 00:00:56.759 fruition today. And you've been you've been on Twitter recently. 13 00:00:56.799 --> 00:00:58.560 I mean you've been on Twitter a while now, making 14 00:00:58.640 --> 00:01:01.840 some excellent post and fighting the good fight. But a 15 00:01:01.880 --> 00:01:05.159 couple tweets you made the other day really grab me 16 00:01:05.200 --> 00:01:07.640 and Storm his attention, and we started circulating it around 17 00:01:07.680 --> 00:01:09.560 the group and talking about it. It's stuff that we've 18 00:01:09.599 --> 00:01:12.040 talked about and stuff that we want to get to 19 00:01:12.200 --> 00:01:14.200 in the future more as well. So it was a 20 00:01:14.200 --> 00:01:15.799 good occasion to have you on. So I'd like to 21 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:19.680 read the tweet for everybody. I will link Darryl's Twitter 22 00:01:19.719 --> 00:01:22.719 in the show notes. I'm sure you already follow him though, So, Darryl, 23 00:01:22.760 --> 00:01:25.519 the other day you tweeted, America is not an outpost 24 00:01:25.560 --> 00:01:28.519 of Europe in the New World. Europe is dying and 25 00:01:28.599 --> 00:01:31.159 sadly will be overrun by Africa and the Middle East 26 00:01:31.200 --> 00:01:35.040 within the century. America is a new civilization and gestation, 27 00:01:35.200 --> 00:01:38.000 and the form it will take is still obscure. Our 28 00:01:38.079 --> 00:01:42.920 natural place is as the leader of Western hemispheric civilization, 29 00:01:43.000 --> 00:01:46.359 and in five hundred years, when we're appointing ambassadors to 30 00:01:46.400 --> 00:01:49.439 the European Caliphate, that will seem obvious to everyone. And 31 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:52.640 then in parentheses you add, sorry, Euros, I'm pulling for you. 32 00:01:52.760 --> 00:01:57.159 I'm just not optimistic. You're always welcome here though. So, Daryl, 33 00:01:57.159 --> 00:01:59.599 this is something I agree with wholeheartedly. I'd like to 34 00:01:59.719 --> 00:02:02.079 sort of elaborate and expand on a lot of these points, 35 00:02:02.120 --> 00:02:04.519 but I also have to throw in here before I 36 00:02:04.599 --> 00:02:06.519 let you take over that I assume you got some 37 00:02:06.599 --> 00:02:07.280 pushback for this. 38 00:02:08.120 --> 00:02:12.199 Oh yeah, it's definitely the view that you know that 39 00:02:12.199 --> 00:02:14.800 that meme with the cartoon of the guy surrounded by 40 00:02:14.840 --> 00:02:17.360 swords at his neck, it's the one that gets me 41 00:02:17.439 --> 00:02:19.919 that the most on the right wing, probably more than anything, 42 00:02:20.400 --> 00:02:24.240 and understandably so it's a pretty hot take, and you know, 43 00:02:24.280 --> 00:02:27.120 it's one that sort of flies in the face of 44 00:02:27.800 --> 00:02:30.439 I guess what should say is sort of the consensus 45 00:02:30.560 --> 00:02:32.800 right wing position and has been for you know, for 46 00:02:32.840 --> 00:02:34.879 a long time. So I get it, and you know, 47 00:02:35.039 --> 00:02:38.639 I put it up to be inflammatory, I guess, to 48 00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:39.840 provoke discussion. 49 00:02:40.039 --> 00:02:41.680 You know, it's a hard truth. 50 00:02:41.719 --> 00:02:44.319 And the very first comment that you responded to is 51 00:02:44.439 --> 00:02:49.120 Europe is dying because it is occupied by America. Now, 52 00:02:49.159 --> 00:02:51.240 this is I think maybe a good place to start 53 00:02:51.400 --> 00:02:53.560 with this tweet. What do you think he means by that? 54 00:02:54.879 --> 00:02:56.759 Well, if you look, I mean, Thomas has talked about 55 00:02:56.759 --> 00:02:59.639 this a lot. I mean, you know, I think that 56 00:03:01.400 --> 00:03:06.240 even leaving aside the outcomes of the world wars, you know, 57 00:03:06.560 --> 00:03:09.319 those two things could have happened in Europe could still 58 00:03:09.360 --> 00:03:13.599 be surviving if America hadn't occupied and controlled the European 59 00:03:13.639 --> 00:03:15.960 discourse for as long as it has. I mean, you 60 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:19.080 look throughout the Cold War period, and I mean up 61 00:03:19.159 --> 00:03:22.840 to this very day. You see George Floyd getting you know, 62 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:28.120 getting dead in Minneapolis, and you see protests BLM, protests 63 00:03:28.159 --> 00:03:30.520 in London and Brussels and all these places where it 64 00:03:30.520 --> 00:03:33.919 makes no sense at all, just the American superculture has 65 00:03:33.960 --> 00:03:36.719 kind of been exported, you know to places, just like 66 00:03:36.759 --> 00:03:39.240 back in the sixties and seventies when black power got 67 00:03:39.240 --> 00:03:42.000 exported to the Caribbean and the blacks there started attacking 68 00:03:42.000 --> 00:03:45.319 the Indians for things that really had no you know, 69 00:03:45.400 --> 00:03:48.599 cultural valance in those places just a decade or two before. 70 00:03:49.919 --> 00:03:53.319 You know, our cultural domination, and in the case of Germany, 71 00:03:54.120 --> 00:03:57.000 you know, our literal domination of their media and education 72 00:03:57.159 --> 00:04:00.520 system and everything is really just you know, created over 73 00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:02.879 the course of a couple of generations. A culture in Europe, 74 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:06.080 not only a political culture, but you know, to a 75 00:04:06.159 --> 00:04:08.400 large extent. I mean, we've got our guys over there. 76 00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:09.919 There are a lot of good people over there who 77 00:04:09.960 --> 00:04:12.919 are trying to fight, but uh, you know, the society 78 00:04:12.960 --> 00:04:17.360 itself that that really just doesn't have the the wherewithal 79 00:04:17.439 --> 00:04:21.560 to resist their own their their own suicide, you know. 80 00:04:22.279 --> 00:04:25.199 And I think that, you know, again, even if the 81 00:04:25.399 --> 00:04:27.600 two World Wars had gone the way they had, if 82 00:04:27.639 --> 00:04:32.600 America had gone home after the Second World War, and 83 00:04:32.720 --> 00:04:35.519 you know, the Soviet Union hadn't rolled over the place obviously, 84 00:04:36.639 --> 00:04:38.639 then I think Europe would probably be fine. But it's 85 00:04:38.680 --> 00:04:43.480 that multiple generations of indoctrination and just cultural osmosis. I mean, 86 00:04:43.519 --> 00:04:47.560 the probably the clearest and starkest example of this, uh 87 00:04:48.519 --> 00:04:51.000 you know, of this process. It's just the fact that 88 00:04:52.120 --> 00:04:54.759 all of the countries that were behind the Iron Curtain, 89 00:04:55.279 --> 00:04:59.639 you know, living under communist internationalism, and you know, just 90 00:05:00.680 --> 00:05:03.199 they all have a sense of identity that they are 91 00:05:03.240 --> 00:05:06.920 still willing to hold on to and defend. And sure, 92 00:05:07.000 --> 00:05:09.199 part of it is probably because they were living under 93 00:05:09.240 --> 00:05:11.680 the subjugation of the Soviet Union for a while and 94 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:14.639 so they had a more recent nationalist outburst that sort 95 00:05:14.639 --> 00:05:17.600 of you know that still lingers. But really I think 96 00:05:17.680 --> 00:05:22.079 it's largely that they were protected from the American cultural contamination. 97 00:05:23.079 --> 00:05:26.920 And when you look at just the line of demarcation 98 00:05:27.040 --> 00:05:29.920 in Europe in terms of the countries that are willing 99 00:05:29.959 --> 00:05:32.160 and able to defend themselves and those that aren't, I mean, 100 00:05:32.199 --> 00:05:34.199 it is the Iron Curtain, you know. 101 00:05:37.120 --> 00:05:37.439 All right. 102 00:05:37.480 --> 00:05:39.800 I know, Thomas and Pete's time is somewhat limited, so 103 00:05:39.839 --> 00:05:42.319 I'll let you guys come in first to respond. 104 00:05:43.040 --> 00:05:50.879 God Thomas, Yeah, And the problem is there's an intellectual 105 00:05:50.920 --> 00:05:59.240 poverty among what passes for the right, especially on the 106 00:05:59.279 --> 00:06:06.240 question of Europe, because there's a there's a conceptual of 107 00:06:06.319 --> 00:06:09.759 literacy there. You know, Europe went down at Stalingrad. 108 00:06:10.000 --> 00:06:11.399 It was done. It's over. 109 00:06:11.560 --> 00:06:16.000 This thing was decided eighty years ago, and the entire 110 00:06:16.279 --> 00:06:19.839 purpose of the war effort was the annihilation of Europe 111 00:06:19.920 --> 00:06:26.920 as a discrete cultural form and historical phenomena and the 112 00:06:27.000 --> 00:06:31.600 can comaa eradication of its ability to massivelly assert itself 113 00:06:31.600 --> 00:06:35.120 on the world stage and power political terms. You know 114 00:06:35.160 --> 00:06:37.959 that that was the entire purpose of the war. I 115 00:06:38.040 --> 00:06:41.759 salagon our friend Kevin Vianna about this yesterday on his pod. 116 00:06:42.720 --> 00:06:43.319 You know, so. 117 00:06:45.319 --> 00:06:51.480 You've got this population of people these days who are 118 00:06:51.480 --> 00:06:54.879 having this kind of conversation with themselves that has nothing 119 00:06:54.920 --> 00:07:00.800 to do with historical, conceptual realities or statig realities on 120 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:05.160 the ground in the military sense, you know, because they're 121 00:07:06.560 --> 00:07:11.240 their epistemic priors are totally wrong. You know, they're acting like, well, 122 00:07:11.639 --> 00:07:14.279 you know, World War two was bad, but you know 123 00:07:16.040 --> 00:07:18.160 the problem with Europe is that these liberals, you know, 124 00:07:18.279 --> 00:07:20.839 took over things and we have a bad immigration policy, 125 00:07:21.240 --> 00:07:23.560 like it's the whole thing. I mean, I don't even 126 00:07:23.560 --> 00:07:25.680 know where to start with these people, because again, they're 127 00:07:26.399 --> 00:07:28.519 they're so out of touch with the reality of things, 128 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:31.319 and that's why you know, well. 129 00:07:31.240 --> 00:07:32.439 What's underway right now. 130 00:07:32.480 --> 00:07:35.360 I don't want to spin this so often to in 131 00:07:35.399 --> 00:07:42.480 a discussion at current events and military imperatives of the major. 132 00:07:42.920 --> 00:07:44.279 Actors they're in. 133 00:07:44.480 --> 00:07:49.800 But you know the reason why this design is crusade 134 00:07:49.800 --> 00:07:54.720 against the Russian Federation. There's a deeper catalyst for that too, 135 00:07:54.759 --> 00:07:59.399 because you know, jude have used their primary enemy as Russia. 136 00:07:59.720 --> 00:08:03.800 They always they hate them on that there's a deeply 137 00:08:03.839 --> 00:08:10.639 coded racial animosity towards them. The more immediate catalyst was 138 00:08:11.680 --> 00:08:17.199 obviously the loss incurred by IDF for the hands of 139 00:08:17.240 --> 00:08:21.680 the armforce of the Russian Federation his Blah and the 140 00:08:21.680 --> 00:08:25.720 then extant Syrian Arab army. You know, obviously that situation 141 00:08:25.959 --> 00:08:32.000 is resolved in my opinion for the worst. But the 142 00:08:32.080 --> 00:08:34.360 you know that was the immediate catalyst was returning to 143 00:08:34.480 --> 00:08:39.320 serve and permanently tying down the Russian armed forces on 144 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:44.559 their own frontier. But more broadly, you know, it was 145 00:08:44.600 --> 00:08:51.399 an avenue of ingress to uh, you know, preclude and 146 00:08:51.440 --> 00:08:57.159 destroy the Burgening complex and independence between Europe and the 147 00:08:57.240 --> 00:09:00.440 Russian Federation, because that's the only path the European livration, 148 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:04.000 you know, And just an example of what I was 149 00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:07.919 talking about, the conceptual literacy of the supposed right wing 150 00:09:08.039 --> 00:09:12.159 this or otherwise, almost nobody talks about this. They don't 151 00:09:12.240 --> 00:09:15.080 know what they're talking about. They have no idea of 152 00:09:15.120 --> 00:09:21.279 the actual catalyzing variables with respect to the you know, 153 00:09:21.440 --> 00:09:24.679 zionis aggression against the Russian Federation. They have no idea 154 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:30.320 what Merkele was trying to accomplish with, you know what 155 00:09:30.480 --> 00:09:32.519 was actually a pretty masterful. 156 00:09:34.440 --> 00:09:34.840 Bit of. 157 00:09:36.840 --> 00:09:43.320 Intriguing, you know, whereby she took Germany off of nuclear 158 00:09:43.440 --> 00:09:50.559 power as so that you know, she could generate this 159 00:09:51.399 --> 00:09:55.480 deep independence with the gas prom under auspices of hey, 160 00:09:55.519 --> 00:10:00.240 you know, we're we're going green. You know, that's whole 161 00:10:00.279 --> 00:10:02.879 other subject matter. You know, Miracle was raised in the 162 00:10:02.960 --> 00:10:06.159 d DR. I mean, she she understands exactly what the 163 00:10:06.200 --> 00:10:11.039 situation is. But the war against the Russian Federation is 164 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:15.360 a part of the continuing racial war against Europe, the 165 00:10:15.399 --> 00:10:19.879 goal of which is the literal annihilation of Europe, just 166 00:10:19.919 --> 00:10:24.159 as uh, you know it always has been. And uh, 167 00:10:24.200 --> 00:10:26.279 that was the raison I'm dead for the Second World War. 168 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:30.039 That was that was the reason for the occupation. Everything 169 00:10:30.039 --> 00:10:33.840 that afflicts Europe today is approximately caused by the social 170 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:39.960 engineering regime, which is, was, and is tailored as a 171 00:10:40.200 --> 00:10:43.679 racial assault on Europe qua Europe, the purpose of which 172 00:10:43.720 --> 00:10:49.759 is to eradicate it as an identitarian and historical and 173 00:10:49.799 --> 00:10:53.799 political phenomenon. And anybody doesn't see this isn't in the game. 174 00:10:53.840 --> 00:10:55.639 They're monumentally ignorant. 175 00:10:56.200 --> 00:10:56.399 You know. 176 00:10:57.000 --> 00:10:59.879 The American situation is a bit different, but you know 177 00:11:00.360 --> 00:11:04.039 that that's a whole other, related but discrete subject matter. 178 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:08.600 So yeah, the then I'll stop talking in a minute. 179 00:11:09.399 --> 00:11:15.440 But the the problem is twofold. The problem is, you know, 180 00:11:15.679 --> 00:11:19.240 I mean, we're uh, there's the there's a practical issue 181 00:11:19.279 --> 00:11:24.759 of you know, for the Europeans, they're they're they're they're 182 00:11:24.759 --> 00:11:28.799 at a disadvantage that we are not, you know, and 183 00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:33.440 they're availed to a they're they're availed to a penal 184 00:11:34.679 --> 00:11:41.840 system that can quite literally incarcerate them without any resort 185 00:11:41.919 --> 00:11:46.320 to even superficial due process. But also, and the more 186 00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:49.120 deeper problem is you can't and I mean I cited 187 00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:52.279 Gusty Spence the other week when I was talking when 188 00:11:52.279 --> 00:11:55.840 I was on the panel for the Portland event. You know, 189 00:11:55.919 --> 00:11:59.679 you if there's not a conceptual grounding of your cadre 190 00:12:00.120 --> 00:12:03.759 or actual or potential, you're pissing into the wind, and 191 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:07.720 I can I can count that number of guys on 192 00:12:07.720 --> 00:12:11.519 one hand who have any kind of profile at all 193 00:12:13.519 --> 00:12:19.559 in in in terms of potential European vanguard, because the 194 00:12:19.559 --> 00:12:21.879 these these people are completely fucked up in terms of 195 00:12:21.919 --> 00:12:25.240 their conceptual orientation. They don't know what the fuck is 196 00:12:25.279 --> 00:12:28.559 going on. You know, it's a real problem. But that's 197 00:12:30.639 --> 00:12:32.679 that those are my thoughts, kind of add a glance. 198 00:12:34.000 --> 00:12:36.840 I think a big part of it is is that 199 00:12:36.879 --> 00:12:40.480 there are people, even on what would be coin the 200 00:12:40.559 --> 00:12:48.159 dissident right, that have bought into the fact that populism 201 00:12:47.480 --> 00:12:51.399 it is a way forward and can be like the 202 00:12:51.600 --> 00:12:55.000 way forward, when all populism is is just another form 203 00:12:55.039 --> 00:12:59.639 of liberalism, and liberalism is what's got what's got us here, 204 00:13:00.600 --> 00:13:05.080 so you know, whereas populism, like you know, like we 205 00:13:05.120 --> 00:13:09.879 always say, Trump Trump, demand doesn't mean anything, but the 206 00:13:09.919 --> 00:13:14.720 fact that Trump was elected means that people people are 207 00:13:14.759 --> 00:13:19.159 starting to think differently. But still, when you look at 208 00:13:19.240 --> 00:13:23.000 any kind of populist movement, any kind of you know, 209 00:13:23.039 --> 00:13:26.440 anyone saying the only way you're going to get any 210 00:13:26.519 --> 00:13:30.759 real change for you is through Trump, well, these people 211 00:13:30.879 --> 00:13:36.360 have lost They don't understand exactly they don't understand what 212 00:13:36.399 --> 00:13:39.159 Thomas is talking about with the last eighty years brought 213 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:42.639 to us. They are they're bringing a band you know, 214 00:13:42.639 --> 00:13:46.799 they're they're bringing a band aid to a. 215 00:13:45.720 --> 00:13:49.279 Weary To recognize that Pete, they would have to acknowledge 216 00:13:49.360 --> 00:13:52.480 who brought this to us. And I think there in 217 00:13:52.519 --> 00:13:55.279 lies the difficulty or the reluctance for them. 218 00:13:56.080 --> 00:14:00.639 That's part of it. One's in a distint, right, no quick, I. 219 00:14:00.639 --> 00:14:05.360 Mean yeah, part of it is that there's tremendous pressures 220 00:14:05.360 --> 00:14:11.240 within the psychological environment to not identify the conferences certain 221 00:14:11.240 --> 00:14:14.279 features of this thing. But also it's just something that's 222 00:14:14.279 --> 00:14:17.120 beyond most people. You know, it's not even a matter 223 00:14:17.159 --> 00:14:20.440 of intelligence. I mean, yeah, if you know, somebody who's 224 00:14:20.480 --> 00:14:22.919 really stupid obviously isn't gonna be able to perceive the 225 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:24.320 nuances of high politics. 226 00:14:24.360 --> 00:14:26.799 But like, people either get this or they don't. 227 00:14:26.840 --> 00:14:29.120 They can either perceive these kinds of things that they can't, 228 00:14:29.799 --> 00:14:32.159 you know, and most people they're just not built for 229 00:14:32.919 --> 00:14:35.200 that kind of activity, you know, on that top. And 230 00:14:35.279 --> 00:14:37.720 I mostly one of the balls either because you're marking 231 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:40.720 yourself out as an outlaw and a disidant element in 232 00:14:40.720 --> 00:14:41.360 a real sense. 233 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:46.399 Yeah, go ahead, well, there's also the fact that we 234 00:14:46.480 --> 00:14:49.600 live in a culture where, you know, people like Darryl 235 00:14:49.639 --> 00:14:51.600 can make a difference with what he's doing and the 236 00:14:51.639 --> 00:14:55.639 amount of people he's reaching and the quality of people 237 00:14:55.679 --> 00:14:58.799 that he's reaching, which would be people with the means 238 00:14:58.840 --> 00:15:03.320 to actually who have the means to initiate change on 239 00:15:03.360 --> 00:15:07.039 a fundamental level. But also you have this this creator 240 00:15:07.120 --> 00:15:11.519 culture where if I meant, if I say the wrong thing, 241 00:15:12.759 --> 00:15:15.039 I'm going I'm not going to be able to continue 242 00:15:15.039 --> 00:15:17.879 my income. I maybe get fired from you know, I 243 00:15:17.919 --> 00:15:21.679 may get fired from the you know, from Salem Media 244 00:15:22.399 --> 00:15:25.759 or Jailly Wire or something like that. So there are 245 00:15:25.799 --> 00:15:27.519 a lot of people, I mean, I can I'm not 246 00:15:27.559 --> 00:15:29.600 gonna name names, but I can name the names of 247 00:15:29.639 --> 00:15:35.000 a couple people who know for a fact the spirit 248 00:15:35.159 --> 00:15:38.000 of what of what is taking this over, but they 249 00:15:38.279 --> 00:15:40.639 they will not say it because it's gonna it's going 250 00:15:40.720 --> 00:15:44.279 to affect their income. So yes, I have to deal 251 00:15:44.320 --> 00:15:44.639 with that. 252 00:15:45.320 --> 00:15:46.480 Yeah, and part of it too. 253 00:15:47.120 --> 00:15:50.399 There there's also a subset of people who have this 254 00:15:50.519 --> 00:15:55.039 delusion that somehow these things are a big secrets and 255 00:15:56.320 --> 00:15:59.000 you've got to wake up normies and avail them to 256 00:15:59.120 --> 00:16:01.480 these secrets. I mean, that's why I hate like the 257 00:16:01.559 --> 00:16:04.679 red pill metaphor. It's fucking stupid. And like, that's also 258 00:16:04.759 --> 00:16:07.480 not how your point is not how politics works. 259 00:16:07.519 --> 00:16:07.840 There's not. 260 00:16:08.480 --> 00:16:11.000 I mean, yeah, the body politics plays an essential role 261 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:15.080 at scale in any revolutionary paradigm. But it's the idea 262 00:16:15.159 --> 00:16:21.480 that the political realities are a secret and somehow, you know, uh, 263 00:16:21.840 --> 00:16:25.399 you avail people to some you know, to some road 264 00:16:25.399 --> 00:16:28.799 to Damascus awakening, and then everything changes because there's this 265 00:16:28.879 --> 00:16:33.120 kinetic outburst of corrective forces. That that's not how things work. 266 00:16:33.639 --> 00:16:36.720 And also it's not everything the regime has done the 267 00:16:36.799 --> 00:16:39.320 last eighty year has been un like, it's been totally 268 00:16:39.879 --> 00:16:43.960 above board. There's nothing secret about it, you know, I mean, 269 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:48.559 that's it's that's that's basic as hell too perceive things 270 00:16:48.639 --> 00:16:52.080 that way anyway. But in the case at Bar, it's 271 00:16:52.240 --> 00:16:54.240 literally the opposite of how it's presented. 272 00:16:54.440 --> 00:16:56.279 I just learned what it's seeing with it. 273 00:16:56.360 --> 00:16:59.519 To Thomas's point, not only is it one above board 274 00:17:00.039 --> 00:17:07.799 and in full public view, it's done with the basically 275 00:17:07.880 --> 00:17:13.279 the global asing managerial superstructure. It is functionally how they 276 00:17:13.319 --> 00:17:17.759 operate right like that there's I don't know how you 277 00:17:17.759 --> 00:17:22.720 would frame this, Thomas, but since post nineteen eighty five. 278 00:17:23.400 --> 00:17:28.440 I would say, when you had the bond vigilantes and 279 00:17:28.599 --> 00:17:33.720 the merger and acquisitions craze, right, it literally took over 280 00:17:34.119 --> 00:17:39.640 the financial market for about ten years. You took five 281 00:17:39.920 --> 00:17:45.559 to six thousand private companies split private and public companies 282 00:17:45.559 --> 00:17:49.359 split between Europe and the United States, and you turned 283 00:17:49.359 --> 00:17:53.079 them into less than five hundred. Right, all of these 284 00:17:53.119 --> 00:17:57.279 boards got folded in on each other. None of these boards. 285 00:17:57.720 --> 00:17:59.839 Actually people that sit on these boards aren't even the 286 00:17:59.839 --> 00:18:05.960 shareholders themselves, right, They're an accountant or an attorney that 287 00:18:06.079 --> 00:18:09.759 represents the shareholder. Right. So the person that owns these 288 00:18:09.799 --> 00:18:14.119 controlling stakes and these interests can't even be bothered to 289 00:18:14.480 --> 00:18:17.680 actually vote their shares. It's all done by proxy. So 290 00:18:17.720 --> 00:18:23.839 these people live detached lives from you know, capital, and 291 00:18:24.400 --> 00:18:28.200 you kind of see this merger of both the American 292 00:18:29.359 --> 00:18:31.720 I mean, you can call them American, but whatever, the 293 00:18:31.799 --> 00:18:37.799 American and European elites, right where like America's capital class 294 00:18:40.440 --> 00:18:46.039 has viewed itself as the enemy of American people, the 295 00:18:46.119 --> 00:18:51.359 exact same thing in Europe. And what's basically happened after 296 00:18:51.440 --> 00:18:54.079 World War Two. I mean, we talk about the Nuremberg regime, 297 00:18:54.119 --> 00:18:56.599 but we don't ever really get a chance to talk 298 00:18:56.640 --> 00:19:01.880 about is the Nurmberg financial regime. Say something miraculous happened, 299 00:19:02.079 --> 00:19:05.079 it's the it's the Keynesian regime, well kind of. 300 00:19:05.880 --> 00:19:10.519 I mean, and in broad strokes, I think that's exactly 301 00:19:10.519 --> 00:19:13.359 what it is. I mean that Sumpter, I definitely believe 302 00:19:13.400 --> 00:19:17.160 that's what it was. And everybody who saw at a 303 00:19:17.240 --> 00:19:22.519 corrective solution is in dialogue with keys, you know, whether 304 00:19:22.519 --> 00:19:26.279 you're talking about Rothbart or Trumpeter or even U or 305 00:19:26.319 --> 00:19:28.480 even Freeman. 306 00:19:29.240 --> 00:19:32.480 I think it's an over So check this out, go ahead. 307 00:19:32.799 --> 00:19:37.839 Nine tenths of every dollar in the world is printed 308 00:19:37.960 --> 00:19:40.880 overseas and exists overseas. 309 00:19:41.480 --> 00:19:41.599 Right. 310 00:19:41.640 --> 00:19:45.680 It's printed by offshore banks and indexed to a European 311 00:19:46.079 --> 00:19:50.240 interest rate. This is like your credit card, your mortgage. 312 00:19:50.440 --> 00:19:52.720 Up until the last you know, year and a half, 313 00:19:54.319 --> 00:19:59.640 those interest rates were set up by someone in London, right, 314 00:19:59.720 --> 00:20:03.640 So for every and when I say dollar printed, I 315 00:20:03.640 --> 00:20:07.519 don't mean actual printing press right, I mean banks lending 316 00:20:08.039 --> 00:20:12.200 money to individuals or businesses denominated in dollars, which is 317 00:20:12.200 --> 00:20:17.160 effectively how our banks print money. Here, nine tenths of 318 00:20:17.240 --> 00:20:22.799 the dollars exists overseas, printed by overseas banks, and what 319 00:20:22.880 --> 00:20:28.720 that's effectively given these people is infinite money to create 320 00:20:28.799 --> 00:20:35.519 a really a bureaucratic transnational state to where like to 321 00:20:36.680 --> 00:20:39.079 what I think is very funny because often you say 322 00:20:39.079 --> 00:20:41.319 like it's globalism versus the resistance, and in a way, 323 00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:43.480 I think globalism is dying. But in another way, I 324 00:20:43.480 --> 00:20:46.960 think you're right. Right, So when Darryl points out that 325 00:20:47.559 --> 00:20:54.319 America has quite is basically distinct different and also the 326 00:20:54.359 --> 00:21:03.680 continuation of European culture, you've basically seen a financial bifurcation, right. 327 00:21:03.759 --> 00:21:07.559 So basically what has been the Nuremberg regime, both political 328 00:21:08.640 --> 00:21:15.640 and financial, has now separated itself from the United States. Right. 329 00:21:15.759 --> 00:21:18.400 So for I don't want to get into like sofur 330 00:21:18.519 --> 00:21:23.799 or libor, but in twenty nineteen, the euro dollar market, 331 00:21:23.880 --> 00:21:28.400 which is this offshore money printing dollar printing machine that exists, 332 00:21:29.200 --> 00:21:33.440 was effectively cut off from the United States. Right, So 333 00:21:33.640 --> 00:21:37.359 basically your money that those dollar bills that you printed 334 00:21:37.400 --> 00:21:41.359 over there aren't allowed to come here anymore. And it 335 00:21:41.400 --> 00:21:44.000 was a big, huge deal. Like they tried to they 336 00:21:44.240 --> 00:21:49.759 whipped up fake insider trading scandals against Jerome Powell. They 337 00:21:49.759 --> 00:21:53.799 did everything to try and I mean Nancy, sorry, Kamala 338 00:21:53.920 --> 00:21:57.559 Harris and John McCain high fived on the Senate floor 339 00:21:57.799 --> 00:22:03.880 when they filibuster the introduction of the US introducing its 340 00:22:03.880 --> 00:22:06.720 own interest rates that only US money has been introduced 341 00:22:06.880 --> 00:22:11.200 or it can be indexed to like Nancy Pelosi adjourned 342 00:22:11.200 --> 00:22:17.079 Congress six months early to not reappoint Jerome Powell and 343 00:22:17.160 --> 00:22:21.160 introduce this system. So basically what we're seeing is a 344 00:22:21.200 --> 00:22:27.680 financial fight that mirrors the fight that you're talking about. Well, yeah, 345 00:22:27.920 --> 00:22:30.519 the conflict diet is identical to the one that Daryl 346 00:22:30.599 --> 00:22:33.400 lays out. There's basically global capital is doing what you 347 00:22:33.400 --> 00:22:36.599 guys are talking about. But unbeknownst to anyone else. 348 00:22:36.680 --> 00:22:40.359 The term political economy is somewhat redundant because there's a 349 00:22:40.400 --> 00:22:44.920 political aspects to all macroorgonomics. But the nerveerk system is 350 00:22:44.960 --> 00:22:56.559 purely political. There's permutations of other human affairs, sociological structures 351 00:22:56.559 --> 00:22:59.839 and a lake they're impacted, but it is a it 352 00:22:59.920 --> 00:23:05.599 is a purely and nakedly political structure, and it's one 353 00:23:05.680 --> 00:23:09.119 hundred percent ethical in nature as its subject matter. The 354 00:23:09.200 --> 00:23:15.240 economic scheme must serves that political structure absolutely, but it's uh, 355 00:23:15.400 --> 00:23:21.119 they're not they're not synonymous and that's important. And the 356 00:23:21.160 --> 00:23:23.400 reason why I say it's the Keynes regime is because 357 00:23:23.440 --> 00:23:29.119 even when even when America, even when neoliberalism became uh 358 00:23:29.640 --> 00:23:34.319 yass's based in Chicago school economics, which is qualified monitorism, 359 00:23:34.680 --> 00:23:37.880 even when that became the consensus, you know, in like 360 00:23:38.039 --> 00:23:43.240 nineteen eighty five, eighty six, eighty seven, there's still keys 361 00:23:43.319 --> 00:23:51.759 and assumptions that absolutely code and color decision making with 362 00:23:51.880 --> 00:23:54.920 regards to national economic policy. 363 00:23:55.920 --> 00:23:57.480 And this is important. 364 00:23:59.160 --> 00:24:02.119 When I say global When I say globalism, is the 365 00:24:02.160 --> 00:24:06.480 reality in the state is dying and you're a buddle, 366 00:24:06.559 --> 00:24:07.839 is that globalism is dying? 367 00:24:07.920 --> 00:24:09.079 Yeah, this kind of. 368 00:24:10.640 --> 00:24:14.359 This kind of Clintonian neoliberalism. Nobody believes in that anymore. 369 00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:22.160 And this uh, this, you know, the kind of the 370 00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:26.359 kind of model proposed by these PNAC type guys. We're 371 00:24:26.359 --> 00:24:30.759 staging kind of a comeback. That's over with, that's dead. 372 00:24:32.279 --> 00:24:35.039 What I mean by globalism is what guys like Emmanuel 373 00:24:35.079 --> 00:24:40.519 Wallerstein refer to, you know, owing to the fluidity and 374 00:24:40.519 --> 00:24:46.440 mobility a capital, owing to the reality of a telecom 375 00:24:46.480 --> 00:24:51.079 and WOI competent and dependence is facilitated by that. This 376 00:24:51.200 --> 00:24:53.839 is just the reality, you know, And unless there is 377 00:24:53.880 --> 00:24:57.119 some sort of truly punctuated crisis event where the grid 378 00:24:57.200 --> 00:25:01.759 went down on planetary scale. This is inevitable, it's not 379 00:25:01.799 --> 00:25:06.920 gonna it's you know that that's the new reality. Politically, Yeah, 380 00:25:07.119 --> 00:25:11.559 what's There's the new reality is that devolved kind of 381 00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:15.720 localism And that's what this is a perfect convergence of 382 00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:21.640 circumstances that you know, advantages the resistance, including us. 383 00:25:21.960 --> 00:25:23.160 That's what I'm talking about. 384 00:25:24.599 --> 00:25:26.559 Well, in that case, I would say that I agree, 385 00:25:26.920 --> 00:25:31.200 except for in that punctuated crisis event is going to 386 00:25:31.240 --> 00:25:35.000 be basically the financial grid coming down, right, So we're 387 00:25:35.039 --> 00:25:39.640 going to see the exchange and free trafficking and information 388 00:25:40.160 --> 00:25:44.839 and you know, anything of digital means. But what we're 389 00:25:44.920 --> 00:25:48.799 just now starting to see, like right now it's at 390 00:25:48.799 --> 00:25:53.400 the World Bank, I, m F and G seven stage right, 391 00:25:53.519 --> 00:26:00.839 but pretty much everyone in finance at a high level. 392 00:26:01.079 --> 00:26:05.759 Everyone is planning on capital controls coming down within the 393 00:26:05.759 --> 00:26:08.519 next two years, so money will not be able to 394 00:26:08.599 --> 00:26:12.079 leave Europe. Specifically, it's the Europeans that are pushing this, 395 00:26:12.359 --> 00:26:16.119 or the European elite class that are pushing it. China 396 00:26:16.480 --> 00:26:20.160 seems to be on board. So we're going to see digital, 397 00:26:20.240 --> 00:26:23.119 We're going to see an information globalism, to which I 398 00:26:23.160 --> 00:26:25.920 think is just going to accelerate. To your point, but 399 00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:28.960 I think capital for the first time is going to 400 00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:31.960 not be able to move freely. This is why you 401 00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:36.240 see a lot of a lot of money fleeing, right, 402 00:26:36.279 --> 00:26:38.759 because basically a lot of money this is another big 403 00:26:38.839 --> 00:26:41.319 driver of the inflation that we're seeing. It's not so 404 00:26:41.480 --> 00:26:44.480 much just money printing, its flight capital. 405 00:26:44.880 --> 00:26:45.000 Right. 406 00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:46.880 So if you're a Chinese guy with a couple of 407 00:26:46.960 --> 00:26:50.279 million dollars outside of the Chinese system, the only thing 408 00:26:50.359 --> 00:26:52.519 you care about is getting it into the United States, 409 00:26:53.359 --> 00:26:55.880 particularly real estate, right, which is another one of these 410 00:26:55.920 --> 00:26:58.599 big drivers. It's not just black Rock buying up all 411 00:26:58.599 --> 00:26:59.079 the homes. 412 00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:05.200 Think our exchange rate mercantilist anyway, So there's always there's 413 00:27:05.200 --> 00:27:05.720 always a rent. 414 00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:09.759 Yeah. So basically all the money is scared and running 415 00:27:09.759 --> 00:27:12.599 home or running to the US for safe haven. Says 416 00:27:12.680 --> 00:27:13.559 what it's about to come. 417 00:27:13.440 --> 00:27:14.440 Next, Stormy. 418 00:27:14.480 --> 00:27:16.119 I want to bring something up to your point about 419 00:27:16.200 --> 00:27:19.240 Jerome Powell, and this ties back into Daryl's original point, 420 00:27:19.279 --> 00:27:23.480 which was with the release of these Epstein emails, did 421 00:27:23.480 --> 00:27:25.000 you get to read that email I sent you? 422 00:27:25.480 --> 00:27:27.680 Yeah? Yeah, I think that's very interesting. 423 00:27:27.720 --> 00:27:30.759 Go ahead, an email between Steve Bannon and Epstein, where 424 00:27:30.759 --> 00:27:35.880 Epstein first is disparaging Jerome Powell because he's not a 425 00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:38.799 PhD in economics, and he's kind of using this as 426 00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:40.960 an excuse to say, oh, he's going to be outclassed 427 00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:44.079 by everybody around him. Then he goes to say that 428 00:27:44.119 --> 00:27:47.160 we need to workshop ways to get him out. We 429 00:27:47.240 --> 00:27:49.160 need to get him out as the chairman of the FED. 430 00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:50.920 We do not want this guy as the chairman of 431 00:27:50.920 --> 00:27:56.759 the FED. And as soon as I read that, I 432 00:27:56.799 --> 00:27:57.839 sent that directly to you. 433 00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:01.559 That's what's really money. Is the thing that Jerome Powell 434 00:28:01.559 --> 00:28:07.400 broke was how we basically rebuilt Europe through the Marshall Plan. 435 00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:12.279 But the reason that we didn't have massive inflation and 436 00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:14.920 the reason why we didn't have a collapse in asset prices, 437 00:28:14.920 --> 00:28:17.480 so we didn't have inflation or deflation. Right, So we're 438 00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:19.759 the only nation in the history of the world that's 439 00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:24.519 ever done war and not have either inflation or deflation 440 00:28:24.599 --> 00:28:27.200 immediately afterwards. And not only did we do war, but 441 00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:29.799 we did war on a scale that nobody ever had 442 00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:32.440 done war before. Unfortunately it was against our own race, 443 00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:36.839 but in our effort to rebuild Europe, to try and 444 00:28:36.880 --> 00:28:39.359 fight communism. We didn't give them gold, and we didn't 445 00:28:39.400 --> 00:28:42.519 print money to give them. We gave them the We 446 00:28:42.599 --> 00:28:45.279 gave one bank, it was supposed to be the Bank 447 00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:49.359 of England right the ability to lend money in dollars. 448 00:28:50.680 --> 00:28:54.720 But some funny enough, some Epstein like shit happened, and 449 00:28:54.799 --> 00:28:58.599 somehow that right to print money got given to a 450 00:28:58.759 --> 00:29:04.240 private UK bank. It's called Midlands Trust Bank, owned by 451 00:29:04.319 --> 00:29:09.839 of course the usual suspects, but within basically ten years 452 00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:15.039 being able to lend at five percent when every other 453 00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:18.359 bank on the British Isles is forced to lend at 454 00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:22.400 fifteen to twenty percent the actual reflective cost of capital. Right, 455 00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:27.119 you basically had a license to print money. And within 456 00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:32.559 ten years this Midlands Trust Bank had either controlling interest 457 00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:36.160 through convertible notes, so bonds is in like, I won't 458 00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:38.079 show up on the cap table if you try and 459 00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:41.279 see who owns what shares because I own bonds that 460 00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:43.920 I can flip into shares whenever I want to. It's 461 00:29:43.960 --> 00:29:47.960 a very stealthy way of controlling something. Or they just 462 00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:50.599 owned the shares outright to where this bank that no 463 00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:53.759 one had ever fucking heard of, effectively rolled up the 464 00:29:53.880 --> 00:29:57.440 entire UK financial system in less than ten years and 465 00:29:57.480 --> 00:30:00.000 then moved on to the continent. So by the time 466 00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:04.079 I'm the seventies rolled up this, you know, magic dollar 467 00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:09.960 printer had given a small group of people infinite control 468 00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:17.160 over the European capital base. So yeah, it's that's why 469 00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:18.720 that's why I said it's kind of like a Nuremberg 470 00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:21.759 financial regime, because it got rolled up it got rolled 471 00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:22.640 out at the same time. 472 00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:24.960 Oh no, And it's absolutely I'm not trying to be 473 00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:28.519 finantic or split hair is It's just it's political economy 474 00:30:28.599 --> 00:30:35.039 needs to be distinguished between ethical and ideological structures, particularly 475 00:30:35.279 --> 00:30:40.079 ones narrowly tailored to realize social engineering ambitious, you know, 476 00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:44.680 And there's something that it's kind of it's both. It's 477 00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:51.279 both more complicated and also discreetly adjacent, you know, Like 478 00:30:51.319 --> 00:30:57.640 I said, they're okay, are arguably arguably ethical. Uh, liberalism 479 00:30:57.759 --> 00:31:01.880 like Enlightenment liberalism is economic fe a He's keys, okay, 480 00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:08.720 But that's it's got it's got to be distinguished from 481 00:31:09.640 --> 00:31:12.640 it's got to be distinguished from the ideological program that 482 00:31:14.519 --> 00:31:18.440 was enshrined at the by the internetional militaries for funeral 483 00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:20.880 and and everything they're in. 484 00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:24.160 Uh, that was my only point. I think this is important. 485 00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:27.839 Well, we still got you on the line, because you 486 00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:30.559 know your time is limited. I'd like to hear you 487 00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:34.599 and Darryl. You and Darryl talk a bit more about 488 00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:38.039 Daryl's comments about America being kind of the continuation in 489 00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:41.400 the future because it of European cultural civilization, because it 490 00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:46.319 does echo what we've heard from YACKI just the solutions 491 00:31:46.319 --> 00:31:49.960 are backwards. Well, he diagnoses the same. And you mentioned once, 492 00:31:50.079 --> 00:31:54.160 that mentioned several times that Hitler in his comments to 493 00:31:54.680 --> 00:31:57.839 the Germans is like basically the best of Europe went 494 00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:01.400 to this place in that place had infinity resources. 495 00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:05.240 Yeah, and the best the best mentioned material. 496 00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:09.720 Migrated here too in his estimation, and just like a 497 00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:14.720 massive percentage of the German of folks lage. 498 00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:15.599 You know. 499 00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:20.559 So, Yeah, America, America was and is the future if 500 00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:24.799 a no other reason then for what we just enumerated 501 00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:30.359 and the fact that still the American continent contains about 502 00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:35.599 half of this planet's natural resources. If Central Asia was 503 00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:38.920 a continent, it would be a rival to that, and 504 00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:42.359 probably about a third of our main natural resources are there. 505 00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:44.079 But my point. 506 00:32:43.839 --> 00:32:45.720 Being you know that this is one of the reasons 507 00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:51.000 is as nine when he's midway. Zionis historians say, like 508 00:32:51.279 --> 00:32:53.759 Hitler was a nationalist, like no nobody thought in herds 509 00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:56.200 of nationalism anymore, at least of all Hitler, who was 510 00:32:56.359 --> 00:32:59.240 quite literally strived to zeitgeist, you know, Europe had to 511 00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:04.359 become a super or die. And dialectical terms, yeah, I 512 00:33:04.519 --> 00:33:08.559 uh I, you know, not not only Yaqui was correct 513 00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:10.920 about the American situation, but also a lot of these 514 00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:14.559 lost cause historians. What underlay the war between the states 515 00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:20.519 in dialectical and historical terms, was, you know, whether whether 516 00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:24.319 there was going to continue to be this uh, you know, 517 00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:30.240 uh Anglo Celtic kind of cavalier element that viewed themselves 518 00:33:30.279 --> 00:33:36.799 as uh, that viewed their lineage as you know high 519 00:33:36.839 --> 00:33:40.519 you know, in highly racial terms and in deeply historical terms, 520 00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:45.920 and specifically as a population whose political understanding was forged 521 00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:51.039 by the War three Kingdoms. And then moving forward, we're 522 00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:57.519 going to guide the country's destiny with an understanding that 523 00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:02.519 you know, they they were the heirs to you know, 524 00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:07.880 European and in Indo Areyan cultural destiny. 525 00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:09.079 You know. 526 00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:13.480 One of the reasons, part part of the seed of 527 00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:19.960 what became the New Dealer ideology. It wasn't exclusively uh 528 00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:25.400 you know, some exotic import you know, of of the ashkenausm. 529 00:34:25.639 --> 00:34:26.679 I mean, that was part of it. 530 00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:30.519 But you know, this understanding of you know, we can 531 00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:35.760 create a telluric utopia by ending history and stripping away 532 00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:40.920 was viewed as you know, the burdensome aspects and prejudices 533 00:34:41.599 --> 00:34:45.519 you know of the historical experience, you know, and and 534 00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:49.239 in that way truly secede from Europe and realize the 535 00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:51.639 ambition of the city on a hill by shipping the 536 00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:54.880 final trappings of you know what tethered us to the 537 00:34:54.920 --> 00:35:01.480 old continents and to Britain, you know. And obviously that 538 00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:07.559 viewpoint one out in terms of power, political ambition, and 539 00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:15.639 the trajectory therein I think, yeah, Americans are we are 540 00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:20.119 the standard bearers of what remains of Western civilization. But 541 00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:27.280 the days where it would have been possible to capture 542 00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:32.039 the power apparatus of a superpower and realize that in 543 00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:35.840 you know, in terms of practice on the world stage, 544 00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:40.280 like that's over with, you know, that belongs to the 545 00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:44.639 twentieth century. So, I mean, that's my view of it. 546 00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:48.760 But we're so we're sort of talking about two different 547 00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:57.719 things within a the the common nexus of a of 548 00:35:57.840 --> 00:36:01.199 subject matter. You know, that's the sort answer. I realized 549 00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:03.360 that's not fatuely short, but it's a huge freaking question. 550 00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:11.199 Yeah, Darryl, what were your thoughts when you I mean, yes, 551 00:36:11.280 --> 00:36:13.639 you're kind of ship posting, but I imagine it's also 552 00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:17.239 something that you firmly believe. How do you imagine the 553 00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:21.199 American continent and the people therein being the continuation of 554 00:36:21.639 --> 00:36:24.960 European cultural civilization, if not ethnic civilization. 555 00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:28.760 Sure, I mean, yeah, I do mean it, But I 556 00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:30.960 would say I'm not married to the idea. It's something 557 00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:34.239 that I've been kind of wrestling with for several years now. 558 00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:38.960 But yeah, it's a serious idea. I'm not just ship posting, 559 00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:44.800 I guess, you know, I think of America as the 560 00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:47.960 successor of Europe in the sense that you know, through 561 00:36:48.000 --> 00:36:53.400 aeniis Rome was a successor of Troy, where the links 562 00:36:53.599 --> 00:36:59.360 over the centuries will almost become mythical as opposed to 563 00:36:59.559 --> 00:37:02.960 simply ethnic. I think I just think that's kind of inevitable, right, 564 00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:06.559 I mean, you arrive on this gigantic continent and there's 565 00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:09.119 a bunch of European powers who were all in competition 566 00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:12.480 for it, and you know, the people who came here 567 00:37:12.519 --> 00:37:15.239 from the British Isles had a sense of their own 568 00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:18.800 historical destiny that had continuity going back into the past. 569 00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:23.599 But as we resorted to mass immigration, wave after wave, 570 00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:26.760 generation after generation from first all over Europe and now 571 00:37:26.840 --> 00:37:30.239 course the rest of the world, it's sort of induced 572 00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:33.599 a kind of amnesia, permanent amnesia in America, where we 573 00:37:33.679 --> 00:37:37.719 don't have this long term sense of our past, going 574 00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:41.480 back into our European past, a long term sense of 575 00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:45.039 just our historical destiny. It's rooted in the past. It's 576 00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:47.800 something that you know, a lot of a lot of 577 00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:50.119 people have commented on that America kind of lives in 578 00:37:50.119 --> 00:37:54.719 an eternal present. And this wasn't true for everybody. For 579 00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:57.760 all of American history. Even after the waves of immigrants 580 00:37:57.800 --> 00:38:01.480 started rolling in, you still had this Anglo leadership class 581 00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:06.079 that was in control of, you know, very important institutions 582 00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:10.039 that it was using to select and integrate new members 583 00:38:10.079 --> 00:38:12.719 from these immigrants groups that were coming in and sort 584 00:38:12.760 --> 00:38:16.519 of work them into the dough. But by the time 585 00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:18.440 you get up to the sixties and seventies, you know 586 00:38:18.519 --> 00:38:20.599 that that class really kind of gave up the ghost. 587 00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:23.360 And whether that happened just due to you know, a 588 00:38:23.480 --> 00:38:26.320 lack of talent after a certain generation, or whether it 589 00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:31.760 was just they simply got swamped by the hyper development 590 00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:35.920 of of of the managerial system in America, you know, 591 00:38:36.039 --> 00:38:39.880 and and that the bureaucracy and the managerial system sort 592 00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:43.119 of became self aware and shoved aside this traditional leadership 593 00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:46.960 class that really had a sense of personal proprietorship over 594 00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:51.679 over the country and its future. You know, I think, uh, 595 00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:54.559 I mean, yeah, I don't even know who the who 596 00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:57.360 the Rockefellers or Harriman's or any of those people would 597 00:38:57.400 --> 00:38:59.400 even would even be these days. 598 00:38:59.119 --> 00:38:59.320 You know. 599 00:39:01.480 --> 00:39:03.840 And so once that happened, once they I don't want 600 00:39:03.840 --> 00:39:08.199 to necessarily say advocated, but once you know, they lost 601 00:39:08.239 --> 00:39:10.599 control of the system. 602 00:39:10.559 --> 00:39:11.360 At Pearl Harbor. 603 00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:16.880 At Pearl Harbor, yeah sure, but familiar with the business plot, 604 00:39:18.039 --> 00:39:19.280 Yeah yeah, sure. 605 00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:21.559 So yeah, I know an awful lot about that because 606 00:39:21.559 --> 00:39:26.119 it's kind of like overlapped with family history, and you 607 00:39:26.320 --> 00:39:29.719 get basically, it's the only time you had all of 608 00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:33.360 these men on side, right, So you have this organization 609 00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:38.400 that first they tried to do it, I mean politely, 610 00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:43.639 and they created something called the American Liberty League. It 611 00:39:43.880 --> 00:39:50.920 was JP Morgan, sorry, Jack Morgan, John Pierrepont's son, frequent 612 00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:54.280 op ed contributor to the Dearborn Independent. By the way, 613 00:39:56.239 --> 00:39:59.880 you had Henry Ford, you had his arch nemesis. Like 614 00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:06.320 these these men committed you know, not just corporate espionage, 615 00:40:06.519 --> 00:40:11.440 but corporate you know, I don't know what you'd call it. 616 00:40:11.519 --> 00:40:14.880 But these men burnt each other's factories down, and they 617 00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:16.800 said if they have they all each said, you know, 618 00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:20.239 if I ever encounter so and So, you know C. K. Rank, 619 00:40:20.239 --> 00:40:22.960 it would be like Fiver encounter you know Henry I, 620 00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:24.960 you know, I'll shoot him or this, that and the 621 00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:27.880 third Like these men hated each other, but C. K. 622 00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:33.119 Rinkin and Henry Ford, right, they teamed up Iree and 623 00:40:33.199 --> 00:40:40.039 Pierre DuPont. And you had Nelson and John Junior Rockefeller 624 00:40:40.280 --> 00:40:43.880 and their arch nemesis at the time, one Huey P. Long. 625 00:40:46.239 --> 00:40:48.880 You had Al Smith, who was the president of the 626 00:40:48.920 --> 00:40:52.760 Democratic Party and the previous run up basically the previous 627 00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:55.800 presidential candidate prior to Roosevelt, and the head of the 628 00:40:55.840 --> 00:41:00.239 Republican Party, all on this organization called the American Liberty League. 629 00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:06.320 And Al Al Smith's speech to the American Liberty League 630 00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:09.519 you can still find and it basically lays out the 631 00:41:09.519 --> 00:41:15.639 conflict diad and he is very very angry because he 632 00:41:16.039 --> 00:41:20.039 well he says specifically, he's like, you know, we put 633 00:41:20.119 --> 00:41:23.400 mister Roosevelt into office thinking we were going to get 634 00:41:23.440 --> 00:41:27.159 a democratic candidate, and what we didn't see is the 635 00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:31.159 he says Eastern European Bolsheviks. But I think we all 636 00:41:31.199 --> 00:41:35.840 know what he means. That he brought in he put 637 00:41:36.079 --> 00:41:39.480 he basically took none of the advisors that he was, 638 00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:41.960 none of the cabinet members that he had all made 639 00:41:41.960 --> 00:41:45.480 deals to bring in and replace them all with Eastern 640 00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:51.239 European Bolsheviks. And these these men are scared, like if 641 00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:54.920 you read if you read that that speech, they're terrified. 642 00:41:55.039 --> 00:42:01.000 They're like an end of the country to get that yeah, yeah, no, 643 00:42:01.119 --> 00:42:01.480 go ahead. 644 00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:04.440 I was just saying that these guys, I mean, these 645 00:42:04.440 --> 00:42:06.079 are some of the most powerful men in the world, 646 00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:09.079 and they are terrified, Like you can hear it in 647 00:42:09.119 --> 00:42:13.400 their speeches that they basically view like, oh shit, this 648 00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:17.159 guy lied to us, and he's filling the country or 649 00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:20.880 filling the the executive branch with the same people we 650 00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:25.199 just saw teardown Czarist Russia, Like, are we going to 651 00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:27.880 lose our country because he's basically trying to listen to 652 00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:31.559 World War and they were trying. They had, I mean, 653 00:42:31.639 --> 00:42:36.840 they probably would have successfully got him out. After Pearl Harbor. 654 00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:42.440 Cornell Hall was uh, you know he was he was 655 00:42:42.480 --> 00:42:50.000 the establishment pettig reed, remember, of the of the deep Cabinet, 656 00:42:50.039 --> 00:42:51.760 but even he was he was a he was a 657 00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:57.599 lame duck anyway. But yeah, it's uh, it's very above bored. Well, 658 00:42:57.639 --> 00:43:01.320 I mean, just like packing the court. Roosevelt made some 659 00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:04.440 flippant comment, you know when I asked, like why all 660 00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:07.840 of his picks from the federal jud this year were Jewish, 661 00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:11.039 you know about how well, you know, it's not my 662 00:43:11.119 --> 00:43:14.239 fault that these men make excellent lawyers. There some something 663 00:43:14.280 --> 00:43:15.239 equally idiotic. 664 00:43:16.400 --> 00:43:20.119 But yeah, who was that Supreme Court justice that was 665 00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:27.639 basically puppeteering him around Frankfurter, Yeah, strength, Yeah, picked the 666 00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:33.920 supposed Republican. Republican Supreme Court justice basically gave FDR his 667 00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:37.840 marching orders. And what an FDR. We talked about whether 668 00:43:37.840 --> 00:43:43.599 it's abdication. What FDR did is he immediately created a 669 00:43:43.599 --> 00:43:49.440 whole bunch of financial securities departments and agencies. Right, So 670 00:43:49.480 --> 00:43:53.840 you had the creation of the sec you had the 671 00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:57.960 creation of the Financial Crimes Division out of the Department 672 00:43:58.000 --> 00:44:03.840 of Justice, and these organizations were specifically to go after 673 00:44:03.920 --> 00:44:08.800 Anglo power. Oh yeah, you guys immediately, yep, exactly, the. 674 00:44:11.880 --> 00:44:14.000 Anti banker for these guys did. 675 00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:17.480 Real what you're talking about. 676 00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:21.320 This is in the thirties, okay, Right, so you're. 677 00:44:21.199 --> 00:44:23.440 Saying that the Pearl Harbor was the last time the 678 00:44:23.480 --> 00:44:26.199 Anglo elite were all on side until. 679 00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:31.840 Yeah, basically during the thirties, right during the first FDR administration, 680 00:44:32.199 --> 00:44:34.679 these men realized that they had a huge fucking problem 681 00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:38.760 and a problem that would potentially be able to yank 682 00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:40.480 control of the country away and take it in a 683 00:44:40.599 --> 00:44:45.559 very Unamerican direction. They noticed who it was. They noticed 684 00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:48.119 they were all Eastern European immigrats if you look at 685 00:44:48.280 --> 00:44:52.360 you know. Anyways, So what FDR did immediately was create 686 00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:56.800 a bunch of executive organizations that started targeting their power centers. Right. So, 687 00:44:56.880 --> 00:44:59.519 you had the creation of the SEC, you had the 688 00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:03.840 creation of of FINSEN, and I can't remember the other 689 00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:08.159 there's like two or three other financial adjacent or basically 690 00:45:08.159 --> 00:45:14.039 financial focused regulatory agencies. And I mean, to Daryl's point earlier, 691 00:45:14.079 --> 00:45:16.880 like JP Morgan didn't hire its first Jew to nineteen 692 00:45:16.920 --> 00:45:20.440 eighty nine, right, Right, Like the Jews were kept out 693 00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:23.880 of banking, they were allowed to do securities trading, right, 694 00:45:23.920 --> 00:45:27.079 So this is why speculator has such a negative connotation 695 00:45:27.159 --> 00:45:34.239 in America. Right, banking was specifically a Anglo institution, and 696 00:45:34.920 --> 00:45:38.480 they immediately went after that. Right, So you had the 697 00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:43.880 introduction of Glass Stiegel, which basically stripped the you know, 698 00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:47.519 banking institutions of a majority of their power and handed 699 00:45:47.559 --> 00:45:51.199 it over to the speculators. So firms like J Goldman Sachs, 700 00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:56.639 which were irrelevant, tiny little shops until the FDR regime 701 00:45:57.119 --> 00:46:00.719 went Hammer and tongs at JP Morgan Chase sorry, JP 702 00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:05.440 Morgan b and wine Melon and Standard Charter. Right, so 703 00:46:05.519 --> 00:46:09.039 that was the you know. Then immediately after that they 704 00:46:09.079 --> 00:46:12.639 went after the oil companies right and tried breaking them up. 705 00:46:13.119 --> 00:46:17.239 Standard Oil and the Rockefellers held on longer than anybody else. 706 00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:21.360 They refused to acknowledge. They viewed the US entry to 707 00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:25.519 war in Europe as illegitimate. Right, they refused all the 708 00:46:25.519 --> 00:46:29.400 way throughout the war to stop selling oil to Germany. 709 00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:33.360 They're like, this war is ridiculous, this war is criminal. 710 00:46:33.480 --> 00:46:35.639 We want no part of it. I mean, I think Pete, 711 00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:39.159 on your show, you and I went through the polling 712 00:46:39.480 --> 00:46:43.039 statistics of what Americans thought of the war in Europe 713 00:46:43.400 --> 00:46:45.719 at the time, as like men were landing in D Day, 714 00:46:46.440 --> 00:46:48.880 seventy percent of the country wanted nothing to do with it, 715 00:46:49.559 --> 00:46:52.960 and something like seventy five percent of the men you know, 716 00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:56.719 landing in D Day had absolutely no idea why the 717 00:46:56.760 --> 00:46:59.960 fact that they were there. So it was kind of 718 00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:05.320 just an immediate right turn right into war into it, 719 00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:08.599 and by the time the war was over, Anglo power 720 00:47:08.719 --> 00:47:09.079 was dead. 721 00:47:10.760 --> 00:47:10.840 Ye. 722 00:47:10.920 --> 00:47:13.559 It's a great book by the skuy Kaufman, The Rise 723 00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:18.840 and Fall of Anglo America. It's I mean, it's it's 724 00:47:18.920 --> 00:47:22.840 very much, uh kind of a deliberately a political book. 725 00:47:23.679 --> 00:47:25.559 I would argue with that subject matter can never be 726 00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:30.760 a political but it's the data points in the punctuated 727 00:47:31.199 --> 00:47:36.840 deterioration of control over the institutions is is very it's 728 00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:40.800 very uh well explicated. I highly recommend it. 729 00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:46.679 One quick point to Daryl's Daryl your comment about how 730 00:47:46.719 --> 00:47:54.000 these uh, these Anglos they indexed themselves to European civilization 731 00:47:54.159 --> 00:47:59.079 for their their history and their identity. This couldn't be 732 00:47:59.119 --> 00:48:03.440 more true. If you read, you know, the diaries of 733 00:48:04.280 --> 00:48:10.000 a lot of these big wasp either scions or you know, 734 00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:15.559 the patriarchs. You see like no bless obleache died out 735 00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:20.360 in the European continent in the sixteen hundreds, but you 736 00:48:20.440 --> 00:48:23.960 see it really pop up in the eighteen hundreds to 737 00:48:24.039 --> 00:48:27.360 nineteen hundreds. So like if you worked on let's say 738 00:48:27.360 --> 00:48:33.559 you were John Pierpont Morgan's mechanic and you worked, you know, 739 00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:37.480 for the family for ten or fifteen years, and some 740 00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:41.840 horrible accident befell you and you're either no longer able 741 00:48:41.880 --> 00:48:45.480 to work or you passed away. The Morgans and they 742 00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:47.719 did this three or four times, but they were not 743 00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:50.840 the only American elite family that would, you know, repeatedly 744 00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:56.480 do this. They would basically take in your sons and 745 00:48:56.559 --> 00:48:58.840 they would put them into the same schools that their 746 00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:02.559 children were in, and they would use their networks to 747 00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:06.800 get you the same jobs that their children would get. 748 00:49:06.840 --> 00:49:11.519 And actually the guy that took over from Jack Morgan, 749 00:49:11.559 --> 00:49:15.079 Pierpont's son, was a man by the name of Tom 750 00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:19.039 was it Tom Lamont? Tom Lamont was the son of 751 00:49:19.079 --> 00:49:25.559 a basically a house employee of the Morgan house that 752 00:49:25.559 --> 00:49:29.039 that passed away, and these men like they are suddenly 753 00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:34.519 they suddenly find themselves richer than anybody had ever been before. 754 00:49:35.159 --> 00:49:39.320 And I would imagine it's an extremely disorienting, you know, 755 00:49:39.400 --> 00:49:42.199 position to find yourself in where you're richer than the 756 00:49:42.199 --> 00:49:45.320 federal government. Like, what the fuck do you even do 757 00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:50.840 with that? Real quick, they turned back to basically, real quick, 758 00:49:50.920 --> 00:49:51.719 the Middle Ages. 759 00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:55.880 Stormy Richard Whitney, who was chairman of the New York 760 00:49:55.920 --> 00:49:59.400 Stock Exchange. Roosevelt literally had him indicted and thrown in prison, 761 00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:03.239 completely insane, Like think about that, imagine like the imagine 762 00:50:03.280 --> 00:50:05.320 the haunts with the of the of the New York 763 00:50:05.320 --> 00:50:08.079 stock esteen just like being locked in prison and after 764 00:50:08.119 --> 00:50:09.119 two thousand and eight as. 765 00:50:09.039 --> 00:50:09.440 Like a place. 766 00:50:09.519 --> 00:50:10.280 I didn't know that. 767 00:50:10.719 --> 00:50:13.119 Yeah he went to prison, he did like five years. 768 00:50:13.400 --> 00:50:20.960 Yeah, go ahead, Yeah, yeah, I did not know that that. 769 00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:22.719 That's actually more insane than I thought. 770 00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:24.679 Yeah, no, I knew that happened. I just wanted to 771 00:50:24.719 --> 00:50:26.400 make sure my data points were roy. That's I was 772 00:50:26.400 --> 00:50:28.679 fucking my phone. I wasn't being a home over like. 773 00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:34.679 Yeah, but yeah, to Darryl's point, these guys basically went 774 00:50:34.920 --> 00:50:39.400 into like, you know, kind of a story book type 775 00:50:39.400 --> 00:50:43.320 of history of the nobility of Europe because they really 776 00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:46.480 didn't have anything to relate to on the continent, so 777 00:50:46.519 --> 00:50:50.400 they all viewed themselves as you know, noble lords and fiefdoms. 778 00:50:50.440 --> 00:50:54.159 And this is why you get that certain type of 779 00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:59.599 patriarchal sense of the American super rich. In that period 780 00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:05.320 of time, you have like Andrew Carnegie built thirty six 781 00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:09.599 hundred public libraries across the country in every town in America, 782 00:51:09.679 --> 00:51:12.480 and nobody had even heard of a fucking public library before. 783 00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:15.599 But he just felt it was your duty or sorry, 784 00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:19.039 you're right as an American to have infinite knowledge. Like 785 00:51:19.159 --> 00:51:25.079 John D. Rockefeller built almost three thousand churches complete with schools, rectories, 786 00:51:25.119 --> 00:51:29.239 and child care facilities in every town and city in America. 787 00:51:30.119 --> 00:51:34.760 Like John Pierpont Morgan bailed out the federal government. I 788 00:51:34.880 --> 00:51:37.960 literally leveraged everything he owned. If the federal government would 789 00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:42.159 have faltered, he would have literally been homeless, because he's like, 790 00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:45.320 America gave me everything I have. And you know, frankly, 791 00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:48.239 you're an idiot if you you know you bet against America. 792 00:51:49.119 --> 00:51:55.760 He actually kidnapped four other heads of speculator houses, right, 793 00:51:55.920 --> 00:52:00.239 you know, and lured them onto his boat, and I 794 00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:03.719 basically told them, you know, once they were past swimming 795 00:52:03.719 --> 00:52:07.840 distance from the DOC said, I'm it's my intent to 796 00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:11.480 bail out the government of the United States. This morning, 797 00:52:12.199 --> 00:52:15.679 I took out lines of credit from each one of 798 00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:20.239 your institutions, so basically, each one of your banks gave 799 00:52:20.280 --> 00:52:23.679 me double my money back in credit, and I intend 800 00:52:23.719 --> 00:52:26.840 to use this money to bail out the American government. 801 00:52:26.840 --> 00:52:32.480 But I'm ten percent short. So either you contribute to 802 00:52:32.559 --> 00:52:35.519 that other ten percent, or I use the credit that 803 00:52:35.559 --> 00:52:38.760 you all gave me this morning to bankrupt you, and 804 00:52:38.840 --> 00:52:41.199 by the time I take you back to shore, all 805 00:52:41.239 --> 00:52:43.119 of you will be out of business. And then all 806 00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:45.800 that money I borrowed, I now owe to nobody. So 807 00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:49.199 I guess it's mine. And what do you know, Like, 808 00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:54.000 you know, Jacob shiff got a sudden urge of patriotism 809 00:52:55.679 --> 00:52:58.199 and helped bail out the country. But it's just something 810 00:52:58.199 --> 00:53:00.719 that we completely don't see from our rich men today. 811 00:53:00.840 --> 00:53:05.480 It's it's it's patriotism when it's convenient to help me 812 00:53:05.559 --> 00:53:08.360 get my objectives done. But it's not a it's not 813 00:53:08.440 --> 00:53:12.760 a spiritual sense of you know, who they are, what 814 00:53:12.800 --> 00:53:14.679 their duty is, why they have this wealth. 815 00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:17.360 Yeah, there's there's the end of a serial posture, this 816 00:53:17.519 --> 00:53:23.760 exio matic going to the ethnosectarian aspect of it. But uh, 817 00:53:24.559 --> 00:53:27.000 a guy who I think, I mean, I mean, he's 818 00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:30.760 something a midway, but his data points are useful. Charles 819 00:53:30.920 --> 00:53:35.280 Murray wrote some pretty good stuff about the sociological dynamics 820 00:53:35.800 --> 00:53:41.280 between between the one percent and everybody else, and even uh, 821 00:53:42.280 --> 00:53:45.280 you know, historically, I mean even well into the twentieth century, 822 00:53:45.320 --> 00:53:49.440 even like well into the seventies and eighties, unless unless 823 00:53:49.480 --> 00:53:54.239 you were Andrew Carnegie himself or something like. You know, 824 00:53:54.480 --> 00:53:57.239 even the guys who were the wealthiest men in America, 825 00:53:58.639 --> 00:54:03.679 their lives weren't, you know, inconceivably different than that of 826 00:54:03.679 --> 00:54:06.920 middle class people that all began changing in earnest in 827 00:54:06.920 --> 00:54:11.920 the nineties. You know, the lives of a guy like 828 00:54:12.000 --> 00:54:14.880 Peter Thiel, you know, compared to a dude who's a 829 00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:21.159 you know, like a branch manager at bank one. It's 830 00:54:21.199 --> 00:54:23.880 it's it's it's it's completely insane. It's like comparing the 831 00:54:23.920 --> 00:54:29.280 life of a space alien who it can traverse light years, 832 00:54:29.320 --> 00:54:32.480 so that like an African bushman who hasn't even invented 833 00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:35.079 a slingshot yet, you know, like these people live in 834 00:54:35.119 --> 00:54:37.960 literally different worlds, you know, and that would be a 835 00:54:38.000 --> 00:54:46.079 difficult psychological paradigm to reconcile even if there was a 836 00:54:46.119 --> 00:54:51.440 moral consensus, and there wasn't, you know, this perverse situation 837 00:54:52.440 --> 00:54:58.360 where a hostile elite who views the majority as as 838 00:54:58.360 --> 00:55:02.920 their ethno sectarian enemy, you know, And that's that's actually 839 00:55:02.920 --> 00:55:05.719 an important point. You know, you can't if your class 840 00:55:05.719 --> 00:55:14.960 of managers, you know, uh are our billionaires who every 841 00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:19.800 week travel to different countries on board their private jet. 842 00:55:20.559 --> 00:55:27.440 You know, I mean, how could they find common uh 843 00:55:27.559 --> 00:55:34.320 empathy with anybody but you know, their own cast, you know, 844 00:55:34.480 --> 00:55:38.239 just even if they desire to curate such things, which 845 00:55:38.239 --> 00:55:41.880 obviously they don't, I think it would probably be insurmountable. 846 00:55:42.840 --> 00:55:45.039 That was just something I thought of as you guys 847 00:55:45.039 --> 00:55:46.920 were discussing this subject. 848 00:55:48.039 --> 00:55:50.639 One of the one of the things that Thomas brings 849 00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:53.800 up often is how the conditions that led to and 850 00:55:53.920 --> 00:55:57.159 enabled the world wars to happen, and then in the 851 00:55:57.159 --> 00:55:59.920 post war period as well, that these are not one 852 00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:03.079 in a generation conditions. These are once in a millennium 853 00:56:03.199 --> 00:56:08.199 kind of conditions that are really not replicable. And you know, 854 00:56:08.239 --> 00:56:14.039 I think about I guess a lot of people kind 855 00:56:14.079 --> 00:56:17.119 of have learned to take for granted over the last 856 00:56:17.119 --> 00:56:22.360 eighty years in the United States, these these very unnatural 857 00:56:22.920 --> 00:56:27.880 economic and global political conditions where you know, the entire 858 00:56:27.960 --> 00:56:31.239 planet had just been destroyed, its industrial base was destroyed. 859 00:56:32.000 --> 00:56:34.119 We had the only one that was left standing. We 860 00:56:34.159 --> 00:56:36.519 had the people, the resources, and the industrial base to 861 00:56:36.599 --> 00:56:40.440 rebuild the entire planet. And so, as you said earlier, 862 00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:42.880 like we go through this great war and don't face 863 00:56:42.960 --> 00:56:47.159 this period of rampant inflation or deflation afterwards, the entire 864 00:56:47.320 --> 00:56:51.119 world needed American capital, labor, resources, et cetera. And it 865 00:56:51.320 --> 00:56:57.559 really pushed us into this just stratospheric economic place where 866 00:56:57.719 --> 00:57:00.440 that over time people learned to kind of take for 867 00:57:00.480 --> 00:57:03.480 granted as part of the natural order of things. And 868 00:57:04.639 --> 00:57:07.880 what the period we're in now and have been in 869 00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:10.880 since maybe the mid two thousands, when maybe the late 870 00:57:10.960 --> 00:57:13.960 two thousands, when Russia and China started to really flex 871 00:57:14.039 --> 00:57:17.000 and push back on the world stage, is a return 872 00:57:17.039 --> 00:57:19.920 to the mean, a turn a return to more natural 873 00:57:20.159 --> 00:57:24.960 like multipolar conditions under which a lot of these institutions 874 00:57:25.000 --> 00:57:27.920 and just the ways we operate can't really function. You know, 875 00:57:27.960 --> 00:57:31.400 in the nineteen nineties you had this you know, to 876 00:57:31.440 --> 00:57:34.840 your point. You go Charles Murray talks about this too. 877 00:57:35.400 --> 00:57:40.000 You go back to the mid twentieth century, and you know, 878 00:57:40.039 --> 00:57:43.360 not only did elites have this sense of no bless oblized, 879 00:57:43.440 --> 00:57:46.440 not only were their lives not so radically different from 880 00:57:46.880 --> 00:57:49.719 the people that work for them, but they were also 881 00:57:49.800 --> 00:57:51.239 much more locally oriented. 882 00:57:51.360 --> 00:57:51.559 You know. 883 00:57:51.639 --> 00:57:54.280 You go back and read through like the battles that 884 00:57:54.559 --> 00:57:57.440 the elites in Chicago went through with other big cities 885 00:57:57.480 --> 00:57:59.199 elites to try to get the World's Fair there in 886 00:57:59.239 --> 00:58:02.199 eighteen ninety three, and I mean it was really important 887 00:58:02.199 --> 00:58:05.559 to them, you know. But then over time, as you 888 00:58:05.599 --> 00:58:08.000 go through that process, as Stormy mentioned earlier, where these 889 00:58:08.039 --> 00:58:12.000 thousands of companies become a few hundred companies, all of 890 00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:16.119 those elites shifted to you know, New York, even if 891 00:58:16.159 --> 00:58:19.039 they didn't physically necessarily go there, like that's where there, 892 00:58:19.480 --> 00:58:22.199 that's where their people were, New York, d C. Maybe 893 00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:26.920 LA A few like megalopolises that absorbed all of those people, 894 00:58:26.920 --> 00:58:29.280 and all of that sense of localism really went away. 895 00:58:29.840 --> 00:58:31.880 And when you get into the post Cold War period 896 00:58:31.920 --> 00:58:35.480 and things, you know, start to start to become not 897 00:58:35.719 --> 00:58:38.599 just scaled up at at a national level, but at 898 00:58:38.599 --> 00:58:41.280 a global level. You saw that on a on the 899 00:58:41.320 --> 00:58:43.480 next you know, the next level up where those people 900 00:58:43.519 --> 00:58:47.320 who had kind of left behind loyalty for Detroit, Michigan, 901 00:58:47.360 --> 00:58:50.280 for New York City have now even left behind loyalty 902 00:58:50.280 --> 00:58:53.519 for New York City for you know, just the global 903 00:58:53.639 --> 00:58:58.360 sort of class that they're a part of. And so 904 00:58:59.239 --> 00:59:02.360 but I think that, you know, one of the things 905 00:59:02.360 --> 00:59:07.840 that happened is that the elites really outran the natural 906 00:59:07.960 --> 00:59:10.719 order of things in globalization during that period, so that 907 00:59:10.760 --> 00:59:13.280 they got way far out in front in terms of 908 00:59:13.800 --> 00:59:17.920 their own sense of identity and how their interests are allocated, 909 00:59:18.800 --> 00:59:22.079 way out ahead of where the world itself actually was. 910 00:59:22.239 --> 00:59:26.920 Because you know, Thomas talked about how with just global telecommunications, 911 00:59:27.480 --> 00:59:31.159 just all the different technological and political changes, globalization to 912 00:59:31.199 --> 00:59:34.760 a certain degree and global integration to a degree was inevitable. 913 00:59:36.199 --> 00:59:39.039 But you know, we got to a point where in 914 00:59:39.079 --> 00:59:42.960 the post World War period, this hyper globalization that we 915 00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:44.880 that we really saw and that the elites came to 916 00:59:44.920 --> 00:59:49.880 really identify themselves with, was a result of American unipolarity. 917 00:59:50.239 --> 00:59:55.280 And even if you take away something like just you know, 918 00:59:55.320 --> 00:59:58.239 you have a few other major powers that can control 919 00:59:58.320 --> 01:00:00.679 what goes on in their own region, control the sea 920 01:00:00.760 --> 01:00:03.960 lanes in their own region, all of those kind of things. 921 01:00:04.760 --> 01:00:07.719 The global economic system is has is not in a 922 01:00:07.760 --> 01:00:10.719 place where it is prepared to account for that, and 923 01:00:10.840 --> 01:00:13.159 so yeah, go ahead. 924 01:00:13.280 --> 01:00:18.840 Despite design, it's it wasn't sustainable from inception and the 925 01:00:18.840 --> 01:00:23.159 the idea of true globalism and the and the the 926 01:00:23.199 --> 01:00:29.599 integration of an adjacent political structure with the new interdependent 927 01:00:30.519 --> 01:00:35.719 you know, uh, economic paradigm that was that's Bush the 928 01:00:35.760 --> 01:00:43.480 Bush Baker administration. Their vision was that the Soviet Union 929 01:00:43.519 --> 01:00:47.960 would remain intact until full nuclear disarmament was realized. There'd 930 01:00:48.000 --> 01:00:54.119 be this gradual you know, stripping away of the command economy, 931 01:00:54.159 --> 01:00:58.159 you know, and uh, the integration of the Soviet economy 932 01:00:58.199 --> 01:01:01.480 into world markets, you know, in a way that wouldn't 933 01:01:02.719 --> 01:01:07.840 cause punctuated disturbances that tended towards the actual crisis level, 934 01:01:08.679 --> 01:01:11.679 you know. And they had something you know, with Goruschev 935 01:01:11.719 --> 01:01:15.599 and shivit Nards, you know, they had an understanding there. 936 01:01:15.679 --> 01:01:21.639 The neocons guy was Yelston, and Yelton completely nuked the 937 01:01:21.679 --> 01:01:26.159 possibility of that being realized, you know, and this kind 938 01:01:26.159 --> 01:01:29.000 of this kind of mass looting operation. 939 01:01:30.320 --> 01:01:30.880 Set in. 940 01:01:33.039 --> 01:01:40.239 Coupled with this, you know, hyper aggressive military posture that 941 01:01:40.559 --> 01:01:45.000 was you know, nakedly tailored to facilitate Zionist interests. You know, 942 01:01:45.079 --> 01:01:48.840 the the ultimate goal was to break Russia at the 943 01:01:48.880 --> 01:01:52.519 Soviet Union and the constituent elements, you know, like a 944 01:01:52.599 --> 01:01:56.159 greater Ukraine, you know, like a kind of commissary at 945 01:01:56.239 --> 01:01:59.800 moscown almost like the you know, the the Third Reich 946 01:02:00.039 --> 01:02:03.039 agin in geographic terms, and then like a Soviet Far 947 01:02:03.119 --> 01:02:07.199 East probably uh, you know, some of which would be 948 01:02:07.199 --> 01:02:12.360 conceded proceeded to the PRC, you know, and uh, this 949 01:02:12.559 --> 01:02:16.679 kind of looting the planet at mass scale. Well at 950 01:02:16.679 --> 01:02:21.280 the same time, uh, you know, socially engineering populations by 951 01:02:21.760 --> 01:02:24.760 aggressive ethnic cleansing and forced mixing. 952 01:02:25.559 --> 01:02:25.760 You know. 953 01:02:25.920 --> 01:02:31.599 Uh, this was the planetary Morgan foul plan quite literally, 954 01:02:32.199 --> 01:02:32.400 you know. 955 01:02:32.440 --> 01:02:36.599 And thank God, uh. 956 01:02:35.079 --> 01:02:37.880 That that that blew up in their faces, and you know, 957 01:02:37.920 --> 01:02:43.880 God bless the resistance for you know, for were indisputably 958 01:02:44.599 --> 01:02:47.039 you know, causing it to fail. 959 01:02:48.000 --> 01:02:51.159 But that's that was the intention. 960 01:02:52.000 --> 01:02:58.679 And uh, the ideological and social engineering aspects, it can't 961 01:02:58.719 --> 01:03:01.679 be extricated from the economic ones, which is one of 962 01:03:01.719 --> 01:03:07.280 the reasons why that ambition failed, because, like I said, yes, 963 01:03:07.880 --> 01:03:12.039 when we're talking about economic policy, at national or global scale. 964 01:03:13.440 --> 01:03:21.400 It's it's always politically coded, but setting about to force 965 01:03:21.519 --> 01:03:25.599 political outcomes by way of economic pressure, that's always a 966 01:03:25.599 --> 01:03:30.159 fool's errand and more often than not it's catastrophic. 967 01:03:32.239 --> 01:03:34.280 That's uh, the key takeaway. 968 01:03:34.360 --> 01:03:38.880 I think there's many nuances they're in obviously because it's 969 01:03:38.920 --> 01:03:43.440 a huge subject matter. But that's that owes a lot 970 01:03:43.559 --> 01:03:47.800 to to the kind of contempt with which the new 971 01:03:47.880 --> 01:03:53.880 elite view their lessers as they would you know, stack 972 01:03:53.920 --> 01:03:56.880 it up and then you got the that's one of 973 01:03:56.880 --> 01:03:58.559 the reasons to where like Elon Musk is in this 974 01:03:58.639 --> 01:04:01.360 kind of weird role. He's like a weird guy anyway, 975 01:04:02.039 --> 01:04:07.760 but he's like this tech entrepreneur who's this boyish you know, 976 01:04:07.840 --> 01:04:10.559 Anglophone South African, you know. I mean he's like a 977 01:04:10.599 --> 01:04:15.199 man without a country like within this you know, overcast 978 01:04:15.920 --> 01:04:20.599 of managers. I got to raise up in a few minutes, 979 01:04:20.639 --> 01:04:22.960 but I still got a few minutes. 980 01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:23.760 If you guys that. 981 01:04:23.800 --> 01:04:30.199 Can they contempt you talk about you know, man, you 982 01:04:30.239 --> 01:04:32.280 guys can feel free to object on this. But it 983 01:04:32.320 --> 01:04:35.119 seems to be in a lot of ways a continuation 984 01:04:35.280 --> 01:04:38.519 of something that we've been dealing with for I mean, 985 01:04:38.559 --> 01:04:42.559 at least probably two hundred years, right, you go back 986 01:04:42.599 --> 01:04:47.800 to just the northern New England contempt for just the 987 01:04:47.840 --> 01:04:52.800 southern resistance to full economic integration and political integration of 988 01:04:52.840 --> 01:04:57.360 the states into a larger federal into a larger federal 989 01:04:57.400 --> 01:05:00.440 project that was more united. You go up to the 990 01:05:00.519 --> 01:05:04.519 nineteen sixties and you have you know, you see it 991 01:05:04.760 --> 01:05:07.840 really starkly with guys like John Lindsay, very much like 992 01:05:07.880 --> 01:05:10.000 a even though I think he was kind of born 993 01:05:10.079 --> 01:05:12.880 upper middle class, not really like a wasp elite. He really, 994 01:05:13.239 --> 01:05:15.880 you know, sort of became became the symbol of the 995 01:05:15.920 --> 01:05:18.800 wasp elite during that period. And you see from people 996 01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:21.800 like him this real contempt for a lot of the 997 01:05:21.840 --> 01:05:24.960 Catholic people living in the big cities who are essentially 998 01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:29.639 resisting integration, you know, resisting giving up their local uh 999 01:05:29.800 --> 01:05:33.440 you know, stubborn attachments and and and allowing themselves to 1000 01:05:33.440 --> 01:05:37.400 be melted into a large, theoretically more efficient system. And 1001 01:05:37.440 --> 01:05:40.400 now you see the same thing except on a global scale, 1002 01:05:40.480 --> 01:05:42.960 where people are looking at their own populations that are 1003 01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:47.559 resisting globalism in the same way that you know, that's 1004 01:05:47.639 --> 01:05:48.800 sort of like a long tradition. 1005 01:05:49.280 --> 01:05:52.400 Well, yeah, they they created they created the Wallace coalition, 1006 01:05:52.760 --> 01:05:55.960 which is you know, the Nixon coalition, which is Meg. Yeah, 1007 01:05:55.960 --> 01:05:58.480 that's why I fly the Bloodstained banner, because that's that's 1008 01:05:58.519 --> 01:06:04.000 my fucking flag. There's an outlaw flag because these fuckers 1009 01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:06.320 hate us. That's one of the reasons too, why I 1010 01:06:06.360 --> 01:06:11.199 pushed back when uh, there's like all these doom codd 1011 01:06:11.239 --> 01:06:12.719 guys like we're gonna. 1012 01:06:12.480 --> 01:06:14.880 Be a white minority. It's all over. 1013 01:06:15.280 --> 01:06:17.760 We're so fucked it's like gona be First of all, 1014 01:06:18.599 --> 01:06:21.320 I've always been a minority Ryan Matt. Second of all, 1015 01:06:21.679 --> 01:06:24.960 I mean my tribes the asked for as you know, 1016 01:06:25.760 --> 01:06:32.280 South Africa, Ulster, you know here to some degree, Australia, 1017 01:06:32.360 --> 01:06:35.480 New Zealand. Like we're always out numbered. People always fucking 1018 01:06:35.519 --> 01:06:41.880 hate us. We're always approved target for their hostility, you. 1019 01:06:41.840 --> 01:06:45.079 Know, kicking and screaming into civility. Yeah. 1020 01:06:45.119 --> 01:06:46.920 I wouldn't have it any other way, you know, And 1021 01:06:47.039 --> 01:06:50.360 like we're not uh, we're not We're not a bunch 1022 01:06:50.360 --> 01:06:53.119 of koolies, We're not a bunch of Hindus. 1023 01:06:53.519 --> 01:06:56.719 We're not like screwed if we don't have some super majority. 1024 01:06:56.239 --> 01:06:59.880 On the ground, you know, Like, yeah, I one of 1025 01:06:59.880 --> 01:07:03.480 the reasons why we're hard and effective and unkillable is 1026 01:07:03.599 --> 01:07:08.400 uh you know, because uh, we gotta lean and mean 1027 01:07:09.320 --> 01:07:13.280 presidence wherever we're at, and we're always beleaguered. You know 1028 01:07:14.559 --> 01:07:18.159 that ain't nothing new and it's not gonna change. Like 1029 01:07:18.199 --> 01:07:23.119 it's not to say that like demographics aren't consideration. And look, 1030 01:07:23.719 --> 01:07:28.320 I can tell you firsthand what it's like to uh 1031 01:07:28.800 --> 01:07:32.480 you know, be uh to receive a you know, the 1032 01:07:32.599 --> 01:07:38.159 negative consequences of things like the you know, Biden's version 1033 01:07:38.199 --> 01:07:40.519 of the Murial boat lift where he dropped you know, 1034 01:07:40.679 --> 01:07:43.360 like ten thousand filoni is fin of. 1035 01:07:43.360 --> 01:07:45.480 Swinging military age meals here. You know. 1036 01:07:45.599 --> 01:07:48.079 Like I'm not saying like that's cool or anything. Anybody 1037 01:07:48.119 --> 01:07:51.280 who thinks that is basic, but you know my point is, 1038 01:07:51.280 --> 01:07:55.480 in broader terms, if you've got to shd this, this 1039 01:07:55.519 --> 01:07:59.199 is kind of like soft like pussy ass like boogie 1040 01:07:59.280 --> 01:08:01.280 view of these things is where it's like, you know, 1041 01:08:01.280 --> 01:08:03.360 if you're not a super majority, like you're fucked. 1042 01:08:04.039 --> 01:08:04.199 You know. 1043 01:08:05.280 --> 01:08:07.760 Plus it's not that that's not the case anyway, Like 1044 01:08:07.800 --> 01:08:12.119 it's this idea that this idea that there was some 1045 01:08:12.199 --> 01:08:17.319 like monolithic like white Ethnos in America until like twenty 1046 01:08:17.439 --> 01:08:20.039 years ago, and now that's over. Like that's food bar thinking. 1047 01:08:20.399 --> 01:08:21.399 I mean, I don't want to get into like a 1048 01:08:21.439 --> 01:08:23.760 broader debate about like the white race. Yes it's a 1049 01:08:23.800 --> 01:08:26.840 real thing. Yes it's important. Yes I stand on business 1050 01:08:26.840 --> 01:08:30.359 and I fucking rep it. But it's you know, races 1051 01:08:30.359 --> 01:08:33.920 and ethnos and ethnos matters, and America is complicated in 1052 01:08:34.000 --> 01:08:36.920 terms of the inner play those things. But I know 1053 01:08:36.960 --> 01:08:39.640 only people are making fun of me about like abruptly exiting. 1054 01:08:39.840 --> 01:08:44.760 So I'm sorry to live leptic cliche that stuff, but 1055 01:08:44.920 --> 01:08:47.680 I'm going to do exactly that. But I wish I 1056 01:08:47.680 --> 01:08:49.319 didn't have to. But I got a busy day and 1057 01:08:49.319 --> 01:08:51.600 then later today I got dinner plans and stuff. So 1058 01:08:52.159 --> 01:08:55.439 thanks for including me, fellas. Uh, I really appreciate that. 1059 01:08:55.520 --> 01:08:56.399 I'm very humbled and. 1060 01:08:58.239 --> 01:08:59.279 Good care Thomas. 1061 01:08:59.319 --> 01:09:01.199 Great to have you in as always. 1062 01:09:01.520 --> 01:09:08.399 Yeah, yeah, all right, So if you guys are cool 1063 01:09:08.399 --> 01:09:10.399 with it, I'd like to get back to this tweet 1064 01:09:10.439 --> 01:09:11.960 because there's a couple of things in it that we 1065 01:09:12.000 --> 01:09:12.760 didn't even get to. 1066 01:09:13.479 --> 01:09:15.439 Uh well, let me let me jump in real. Yeah. Yeah, 1067 01:09:15.800 --> 01:09:18.039 I'm going to play on that based on something that 1068 01:09:18.199 --> 01:09:20.039 Thomas just said. You know, one of the things that 1069 01:09:21.199 --> 01:09:24.159 I I guess I meant to put forth with that 1070 01:09:24.199 --> 01:09:29.199 tweet is, you know, just like Thomas said, you know, 1071 01:09:29.520 --> 01:09:33.000 our guys have got to really shed that doumerism. You 1072 01:09:33.079 --> 01:09:35.560 know that like if somehow you dip to a forty 1073 01:09:35.600 --> 01:09:37.439 nine percent population, that. 1074 01:09:37.359 --> 01:09:38.239 It's all over with. 1075 01:09:39.760 --> 01:09:42.560 We also, I think, to a certain extent, have got 1076 01:09:42.600 --> 01:09:48.520 to shed this like this fortress mentality that is very 1077 01:09:48.600 --> 01:09:52.279 understandable given the circumstances that we find ourselves in, but 1078 01:09:52.319 --> 01:09:56.239 it's one that I think prevents us from doing one 1079 01:09:56.239 --> 01:09:58.640 thing that we really need to be willing and able 1080 01:09:58.680 --> 01:10:02.159 to do, which is to prevent leadership to the civilized 1081 01:10:02.159 --> 01:10:04.640 minorities that do live among us. You know, And with 1082 01:10:04.720 --> 01:10:06.600 that tweet, when I say that, like we need to 1083 01:10:06.640 --> 01:10:11.079 embrace our role as the leader of a Western hemispheric civilization, 1084 01:10:11.840 --> 01:10:16.119 I mean, it's really kind of ridiculous that we over 1085 01:10:16.159 --> 01:10:19.720 the years have tolerated a half failed state on our 1086 01:10:19.760 --> 01:10:23.399 southern border, and that it's a state that you know, 1087 01:10:23.520 --> 01:10:27.600 we have like good relations with, like you know, and 1088 01:10:27.680 --> 01:10:31.600 all there's no hot like like outward hostility there or anything. 1089 01:10:31.920 --> 01:10:34.680 But like, we we need the Western hemisphere, every country 1090 01:10:34.720 --> 01:10:37.399 in it, to look at us as their leader. And 1091 01:10:37.640 --> 01:10:42.680 part of doing that is that you know, our nationalist 1092 01:10:42.800 --> 01:10:46.199 core in the United States itself has got to take 1093 01:10:46.199 --> 01:10:49.039 on a leadership role with respect to these civilized minorities 1094 01:10:49.039 --> 01:10:51.119 who live here with us in this country, you know, 1095 01:10:51.640 --> 01:10:53.760 And it can't just be like a you know, a 1096 01:10:53.840 --> 01:10:56.279 matter of racial purity or any of those things, because 1097 01:10:56.319 --> 01:10:58.880 the bottom line is, I mean, unless there is some 1098 01:10:59.079 --> 01:11:04.760 just completely un foreseeable transformation that would probably create a 1099 01:11:04.960 --> 01:11:09.199 catastrophe with with uh, you know, outcome that that that 1100 01:11:09.479 --> 01:11:14.239 can't be predicted. You know, demographics are going to continue 1101 01:11:14.319 --> 01:11:17.239 to trend in the direction they're trending, at least to 1102 01:11:17.279 --> 01:11:19.960 a certain point where, you know, where where they stabilize, 1103 01:11:20.000 --> 01:11:21.920 and that doesn't look like that's going to happen anytime soon. 1104 01:11:22.000 --> 01:11:24.640 That's the world we have to live in. And uh 1105 01:11:24.840 --> 01:11:28.079 sort of going into a fortress mode of racial purity 1106 01:11:28.199 --> 01:11:32.800 rather than recognizing that, you know, uh, there are a 1107 01:11:32.840 --> 01:11:35.439 lot of Latinos, there's a lot of civilized people in 1108 01:11:35.479 --> 01:11:38.279 this country who just want to live regular lives and 1109 01:11:38.479 --> 01:11:41.199 would be perfectly willing to accept the leadership of people 1110 01:11:41.279 --> 01:11:45.079 who know how to make that happen. I think is important, 1111 01:11:45.199 --> 01:11:47.680 you know, And I think that you know, because it's 1112 01:11:47.800 --> 01:11:51.119 very easy to get to get lost and especially for 1113 01:11:51.199 --> 01:11:53.800 somebody like me, probably all of us, to get lost 1114 01:11:53.840 --> 01:11:56.880 in the history of the whole thing and thinking about, like, 1115 01:11:57.159 --> 01:11:59.800 you know, just what's been lost, all the nostalgia, all 1116 01:12:00.079 --> 01:12:03.760 these kind of like larger not abstract but like semi 1117 01:12:03.880 --> 01:12:08.840 abstract ways of looking at the whole situation and forgetting 1118 01:12:08.840 --> 01:12:12.479 the fact that, you know, the the real important part 1119 01:12:12.520 --> 01:12:14.920 here is that our grandkids are still living in a 1120 01:12:14.920 --> 01:12:17.319 country where you know, they don't get kidnapped when they 1121 01:12:17.560 --> 01:12:21.000 walk down the street, or it's just a functional country, 1122 01:12:21.159 --> 01:12:23.119 you know, And there are people out there who aren't 1123 01:12:23.159 --> 01:12:26.960 necessarily going to get on board with you know, some 1124 01:12:27.119 --> 01:12:31.079 white racial purity test that that can help with that, 1125 01:12:31.319 --> 01:12:33.279 you know, and are willing to accept leadership. And so 1126 01:12:34.199 --> 01:12:35.680 that's part of what I meant by that tweet. 1127 01:12:36.279 --> 01:12:38.520 Well, to your point, Darrel, I think there's a clear 1128 01:12:38.600 --> 01:12:43.239 demarcation that can be made between people that come here 1129 01:12:43.840 --> 01:12:50.079 and marry in. I think marriage is probably the oldest 1130 01:12:50.560 --> 01:12:53.479 and most you know, stable immigration policy. 1131 01:12:54.199 --> 01:12:54.359 Right. 1132 01:12:54.439 --> 01:13:00.439 If somebody in you know, the host nation vouchers to 1133 01:13:00.479 --> 01:13:02.359 the extent that they come further and say like I 1134 01:13:02.399 --> 01:13:07.319 love this person, right, that person is no longer a 1135 01:13:07.600 --> 01:13:11.520 burden of the state because they are coming into the 1136 01:13:11.560 --> 01:13:16.239 country with a support network already in place. Right, they 1137 01:13:16.319 --> 01:13:20.079 have no choice, not no choice, but they are very 1138 01:13:20.199 --> 01:13:25.159 very excited about culturally integrating because they are integrating at 1139 01:13:25.239 --> 01:13:29.560 the most core level a person can be integrated to anything, 1140 01:13:29.920 --> 01:13:32.439 right is the integration of man and wife into that 1141 01:13:32.520 --> 01:13:38.079 singular human being. Also, it clears away a lot of 1142 01:13:38.119 --> 01:13:41.560 political problems. Right. So, right now you have a whole 1143 01:13:41.600 --> 01:13:46.520 bunch of very wound up, left eoyed women and I 1144 01:13:46.560 --> 01:13:49.720 think basically telling them like, oh no, immigration is now 1145 01:13:49.800 --> 01:13:52.199 actually your choice. You just have to marry them, like 1146 01:13:52.279 --> 01:13:55.199 you can bring in whoever you want, but you have 1147 01:13:55.239 --> 01:13:56.800 to love them, and you have to love them forever. 1148 01:13:57.920 --> 01:13:59.680 The other thing is you can probably draw a very 1149 01:13:59.680 --> 01:14:03.800 clear demarcation line between those that come to live here 1150 01:14:06.720 --> 01:14:11.640 by where they keep their money. Right, there are individuals 1151 01:14:11.720 --> 01:14:15.640 like a lot of the Latino individuals that you talk about, 1152 01:14:15.680 --> 01:14:19.600 they're not sending money back home to Mexico. Right, They're 1153 01:14:19.640 --> 01:14:25.000 building their future where they see their future as being right. 1154 01:14:26.720 --> 01:14:30.159 But then you need to also, you know, well it 1155 01:14:30.640 --> 01:14:33.720 just by making that one distinction draws a clear contrast 1156 01:14:33.760 --> 01:14:36.279 between the people that view this as an economic zone 1157 01:14:36.319 --> 01:14:40.600 for extracting. Like I mean, even guys like Vivek Ramaswami, 1158 01:14:41.199 --> 01:14:48.319 the the healthcare stock fraudster. His parents had no problem 1159 01:14:48.399 --> 01:14:52.880 coming to America and having him and getting set up 1160 01:14:52.880 --> 01:14:57.520 in lovely sinecure positions. So American PhDs don't get paid anything. 1161 01:14:58.439 --> 01:15:02.039 But they've been your twenty years. Their son got to 1162 01:15:02.119 --> 01:15:06.800 make five hundred million dollars in America and they still 1163 01:15:06.840 --> 01:15:10.479 don't want to become US citizens. They're sending all their 1164 01:15:10.479 --> 01:15:13.640 money back home to India, building nice little I mean, 1165 01:15:14.239 --> 01:15:16.159 I hate to point him out and make it, actually 1166 01:15:16.159 --> 01:15:19.119 I don't. I hate that man. I think he is 1167 01:15:19.680 --> 01:15:24.159 kind of the epitome of what we're seeing. But there 1168 01:15:24.279 --> 01:15:28.000 is a clear line between who sends money out of 1169 01:15:28.039 --> 01:15:32.359 the country to where those people see their home actually being. 1170 01:15:33.600 --> 01:15:39.560 And the amount of money that leaves this country is staggering, right. 1171 01:15:39.600 --> 01:15:44.159 We're talking half a trillion dollars at a clip, right, 1172 01:15:44.319 --> 01:15:47.680 h fisk. I mean literally half of the almost half 1173 01:15:47.720 --> 01:15:51.640 of the sorry, almost more than half of the entire 1174 01:15:51.680 --> 01:15:57.199 Defense Department's budget leaves this country in remittances, all right. 1175 01:15:57.239 --> 01:16:00.359 So that means money is earned here, and it's a 1176 01:16:00.640 --> 01:16:04.520 money that could have been given to somebody that actually 1177 01:16:04.520 --> 01:16:07.840 lives here. And you know is from here, it's given 1178 01:16:07.880 --> 01:16:11.560 to somebody else, and that money doesn't stay in the economy. 1179 01:16:12.079 --> 01:16:13.760 And this is kind of the lie about you know, 1180 01:16:13.800 --> 01:16:18.119 immigration being a boost to GDP, which is the lie 1181 01:16:18.159 --> 01:16:21.079 that a lot of our elites are told, right, because 1182 01:16:21.079 --> 01:16:25.760 if GDP backward dates, the sovereign debt begins to quickly 1183 01:16:26.039 --> 01:16:29.600 lose value, which accelerates rapidly and will end the nation 1184 01:16:30.600 --> 01:16:34.439 in sovereign debt default really fucking quickly. So it's not 1185 01:16:34.520 --> 01:16:36.800 just that they only care about line goes up, it's 1186 01:16:36.800 --> 01:16:40.680 that they can only care about line goes up because 1187 01:16:40.720 --> 01:16:44.960 how much debt all of these nations are in. But 1188 01:16:45.039 --> 01:16:50.159 there's also a foreign policy element. There is a I 1189 01:16:50.199 --> 01:16:52.439 can pull it up on my phone, but there's a 1190 01:16:52.479 --> 01:16:55.920 speech that Prime Minister Modi is given giving to his 1191 01:16:56.079 --> 01:17:01.079 BNP party talking about how and it's actually really funny 1192 01:17:01.079 --> 01:17:03.600 because he basically says, we're going to do what the 1193 01:17:03.720 --> 01:17:07.800 Jews do for Israel. We are going to put as 1194 01:17:07.880 --> 01:17:13.239 many individuals into America, into these Western countries as possible, 1195 01:17:14.239 --> 01:17:20.399 and those people will then lobby for India's interests and 1196 01:17:21.000 --> 01:17:25.720 the Modi government is basically helped facilitate you know, you 1197 01:17:25.760 --> 01:17:28.680 actually have. You know, it's not just these people filling 1198 01:17:28.680 --> 01:17:31.039 out frauds in H one B applications. It's the fucking 1199 01:17:31.119 --> 01:17:35.560 Indian government doing it. It's the Chinese government doing it. 1200 01:17:35.600 --> 01:17:37.279 And I mean every time, I mean, I'm sure it's 1201 01:17:37.319 --> 01:17:39.560 really embarrassing to the people at the DoD, but every 1202 01:17:39.560 --> 01:17:42.680 time we catch somebody selling secrets, their name is always 1203 01:17:42.800 --> 01:17:47.359 like Ching Chong Lee. Actually, I remember one of the 1204 01:17:47.479 --> 01:17:51.520 very first things I heard you do was a episode 1205 01:17:51.720 --> 01:17:55.760 you did with Jocko and this is you're the only 1206 01:17:55.800 --> 01:17:58.079 other person at that time that I had heard talk 1207 01:17:58.159 --> 01:18:03.479 about the faction in the US military slash intelligence communities, 1208 01:18:03.520 --> 01:18:05.239 and like, these men are not like this is not 1209 01:18:05.319 --> 01:18:10.800 a monolith. These people are often you know, have diametrically 1210 01:18:10.840 --> 01:18:15.640 opposed goals. But in that episode you talked about basically 1211 01:18:15.680 --> 01:18:22.399 the racial sensitivity training that was somehow also you know, 1212 01:18:23.199 --> 01:18:27.119 be on the lookout for people, you know, stealing intelligence information, 1213 01:18:27.239 --> 01:18:30.840 but also don't be racist at the same time, so 1214 01:18:31.600 --> 01:18:34.840 you'd have to parse those people out too. I don't 1215 01:18:34.840 --> 01:18:37.039 know how you go about doing that bit, because it 1216 01:18:37.079 --> 01:18:38.880 seems that a lot of the people that are selling 1217 01:18:39.199 --> 01:18:43.520 US intelligence and US sensitive intellectual property seem to be 1218 01:18:43.560 --> 01:18:48.760 second generation. You see the problem in the UK a lot. 1219 01:18:48.840 --> 01:18:53.279 It's not the first generation Arabs that are the hyper 1220 01:18:53.359 --> 01:18:56.279 extreme ones. It's the second and third generation that are 1221 01:18:56.399 --> 01:19:00.159 you know, full on isis in the streets. So it's 1222 01:19:00.159 --> 01:19:02.319 the ones that are actually born here that are trying 1223 01:19:02.319 --> 01:19:04.439 to tear the country down, which is I don't know 1224 01:19:04.439 --> 01:19:07.239 how to how I how to go about squaring that circle. 1225 01:19:07.560 --> 01:19:10.800 What you know, it's like that's a that's something you 1226 01:19:10.840 --> 01:19:13.159 almost have to call like a natural process just because 1227 01:19:13.159 --> 01:19:16.399 it's occurred in so many other contexts where you look 1228 01:19:16.399 --> 01:19:20.720 at you know, when when during the Great Migration, when 1229 01:19:21.079 --> 01:19:22.960 the Blacks all moved out of the South up into 1230 01:19:23.000 --> 01:19:26.760 the northern and western cities. You know, it wasn't the 1231 01:19:26.760 --> 01:19:30.039 first generation for the most part that really really went 1232 01:19:30.119 --> 01:19:33.800 up there and you know, trashed the inner cities. I 1233 01:19:33.800 --> 01:19:36.079 mean it was to a degree they were you know, rowdy, 1234 01:19:36.359 --> 01:19:38.800 illiterate Southerners for the most part, you know, who were 1235 01:19:38.800 --> 01:19:40.560 in the big city for the first time. So there 1236 01:19:40.560 --> 01:19:42.560 was an element of that, But it wasn't until you 1237 01:19:42.600 --> 01:19:45.600 got up to the nineteen sixties when that first generation's 1238 01:19:46.079 --> 01:19:49.359 kids began to turn into grown men. Eighteen nineteen twenty 1239 01:19:49.479 --> 01:19:53.760 year old kids or men who you know, they had 1240 01:19:53.800 --> 01:19:56.399 carried a lot more resentment, a lot more of an 1241 01:19:56.439 --> 01:19:58.960 identity crisis, a lot more of all these things that 1242 01:19:59.000 --> 01:20:01.479 they had to compensate for than their parents ever did. 1243 01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:03.680 And you see it in the US. Like I knew 1244 01:20:04.319 --> 01:20:05.960 when I lived down in SoCal, I knew a lot 1245 01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:10.000 of people who worked in education in LA and Orange County. 1246 01:20:10.239 --> 01:20:11.960 So I used to I used to date a woman 1247 01:20:11.960 --> 01:20:16.159 who was a vice principal down there, and you know, 1248 01:20:16.279 --> 01:20:19.640 she would point out to me that, you know, they 1249 01:20:19.880 --> 01:20:23.600 like the America is a nation of immigrants. People. They 1250 01:20:23.640 --> 01:20:28.439 love to point to statistics that show that American citizens, uh, 1251 01:20:28.760 --> 01:20:31.760 you know, have a higher crime rate than immigrants. Right, 1252 01:20:32.079 --> 01:20:35.319 I've never like studied that deeply. I'm willing to believe it, 1253 01:20:35.359 --> 01:20:37.680 Like I'm willing to believe that that first generation of 1254 01:20:37.680 --> 01:20:40.479 immigrants comes in. But look at their kids. It's a 1255 01:20:40.520 --> 01:20:44.079 totally different story. You know, the people in education that 1256 01:20:44.079 --> 01:20:46.159 I would be talking to down there, they would say 1257 01:20:46.199 --> 01:20:48.720 that they have these parents. You know, dad works in 1258 01:20:48.760 --> 01:20:51.840 a field, mom works cleaning up a hotel. They're both 1259 01:20:51.960 --> 01:20:54.960 like basically just hard working, normal Catholic people and they're 1260 01:20:55.000 --> 01:20:58.000 coming to the vice principal, coming to the school administration saying, 1261 01:20:58.039 --> 01:20:59.479 I don't know what to do with my kids, Like 1262 01:20:59.520 --> 01:21:01.439 they all want to be gangbangers, they all want to 1263 01:21:01.439 --> 01:21:03.640 be this want to be that. You know, they're out 1264 01:21:03.640 --> 01:21:06.560 flying a Mexican flag at a protest like you told 1265 01:21:06.560 --> 01:21:08.680 them not to go to. You know, it's very much 1266 01:21:08.720 --> 01:21:11.960 that second generation that was raised up in American culture, 1267 01:21:12.520 --> 01:21:14.880 and you have to attribute part of it to American 1268 01:21:14.920 --> 01:21:17.079 culture and media, but I think there's also just a 1269 01:21:17.119 --> 01:21:20.279 more natural element where you know, there's an identity crisis 1270 01:21:20.319 --> 01:21:22.880 that kind of takes place among people like that, especially 1271 01:21:22.880 --> 01:21:26.760 when you know the the woman that I dated, it 1272 01:21:26.840 --> 01:21:30.119 was the vice principal. She was a Palestinian woman Arab, 1273 01:21:30.520 --> 01:21:34.000 and you know, she grew up just like a lot 1274 01:21:34.039 --> 01:21:38.560 of the Palestinian just Arab immigrants at the time before 1275 01:21:38.560 --> 01:21:40.520 they made their money and moved down to you know, 1276 01:21:40.640 --> 01:21:43.399 nicer parts of Orange County and stuff. She lived down 1277 01:21:43.399 --> 01:21:47.039 in Southgate in South LA and basically Latino community, Latino 1278 01:21:47.119 --> 01:21:50.199 black Arab community. And when she was a kid, and 1279 01:21:51.239 --> 01:21:52.800 you know, one of the things that they will tell 1280 01:21:52.800 --> 01:21:55.319 you and Latinas will tell you the same thing. You know, 1281 01:21:55.680 --> 01:21:58.159 if they don't think that, you know, they're they're in 1282 01:21:58.199 --> 01:22:01.079 a conversation where it's going to be, you know, heard 1283 01:22:01.119 --> 01:22:03.279 the wrong way. I guess is they'll tell you that, 1284 01:22:04.520 --> 01:22:07.199 you know, in their communities, being with a white guy 1285 01:22:07.319 --> 01:22:12.199 is like a status symbol, and that's something that creates 1286 01:22:12.239 --> 01:22:15.840 a great deal of resentment among you know, the the 1287 01:22:15.920 --> 01:22:18.520 other women as well, especially the men. You know, you 1288 01:22:18.560 --> 01:22:21.239 saw this very much in the like Black Power movement 1289 01:22:21.239 --> 01:22:23.840 in nineteen sixties. Because to this day, you know, you 1290 01:22:24.279 --> 01:22:28.560 if you if you go to I've seen the numbers before. 1291 01:22:28.560 --> 01:22:31.600 But it's not something they study or published very often, 1292 01:22:32.000 --> 01:22:34.960 but they but they have. And the numbers of black 1293 01:22:35.039 --> 01:22:38.079 women who go to university, graduate with a four year 1294 01:22:38.119 --> 01:22:40.800 degree who end up marrying black men is very low. 1295 01:22:41.319 --> 01:22:43.520 You know, a huge number of them end up marrying 1296 01:22:43.560 --> 01:22:46.359 into the white community, essentially leaving the black community behind. 1297 01:22:47.000 --> 01:22:51.800 And you know that kind of thing. It creates resentment 1298 01:22:51.920 --> 01:22:54.439 within communities, you know, and and it creates a sort 1299 01:22:54.479 --> 01:22:57.239 of identity crisis among the next generation that comes up. 1300 01:22:57.279 --> 01:22:59.199 It's trying to figure out who and what they are. 1301 01:22:59.800 --> 01:23:02.760 And you know, in a country like China, I mean, 1302 01:23:02.800 --> 01:23:06.840 I imagine if any of us were to go over to China, 1303 01:23:07.520 --> 01:23:11.319 they would probably have a dedicated agent tracking our every movement, 1304 01:23:11.479 --> 01:23:13.640 listening to our phone calls. They would know every single 1305 01:23:13.680 --> 01:23:16.159 thing we did in that country, and so it's much 1306 01:23:16.279 --> 01:23:18.680 much much harder for us to take advantage of any 1307 01:23:18.760 --> 01:23:22.079 kind of you know, any kind of fissures or cracks 1308 01:23:22.079 --> 01:23:24.640 that might exist in a society like that, whereas over 1309 01:23:24.680 --> 01:23:26.640 here in our open society. 1310 01:23:27.800 --> 01:23:27.960 You know. 1311 01:23:28.000 --> 01:23:29.960 Again, like you said in that converence, that training that 1312 01:23:29.960 --> 01:23:31.880 I had, it was it was opsect training where they 1313 01:23:31.880 --> 01:23:34.359 were telling us how to look for internal threats, you know, 1314 01:23:34.439 --> 01:23:38.239 people who might be in gambling debts or whatever, because 1315 01:23:38.239 --> 01:23:41.239 they might, you know, be vulnerable to blackmail or selling information. 1316 01:23:41.680 --> 01:23:44.119 And they went through all of these real world examples, 1317 01:23:44.119 --> 01:23:46.399 like ten of them, and all of them except for one, 1318 01:23:46.399 --> 01:23:48.640 there was one guy who had gotten a divorce and 1319 01:23:48.680 --> 01:23:50.079 lost a lot of money and was in a lot 1320 01:23:50.079 --> 01:23:53.600 of gambling debt. But all like nine out of the ten, 1321 01:23:53.760 --> 01:23:57.079 we're all Chinese Americans who were spying for China, Jewish 1322 01:23:57.119 --> 01:23:59.680 Americans spying for Israel, just all of them. And that 1323 01:23:59.800 --> 01:24:01.680 was when I raise my hand and asked the question, 1324 01:24:01.760 --> 01:24:04.680 and they told me, just we don't. You were instructed 1325 01:24:04.760 --> 01:24:07.239 not to consider that as part of the information that 1326 01:24:07.279 --> 01:24:09.920 you're you know that you're looking at and that's a 1327 01:24:10.039 --> 01:24:11.880 that's a difficult thing in the United States that a 1328 01:24:11.880 --> 01:24:13.239 lot of other countries just don't have. 1329 01:24:16.840 --> 01:24:18.600 Do you think that that is going to be one 1330 01:24:18.640 --> 01:24:21.720 of the things that have to go away? I mean 1331 01:24:21.720 --> 01:24:23.640 because I mean as far as like the black community, 1332 01:24:24.119 --> 01:24:28.279 the probably the greatest single, you know, bit of damage 1333 01:24:28.319 --> 01:24:32.840 that was ever done to it was desegregation. Right, Nobody 1334 01:24:32.880 --> 01:24:37.399 talks about the absolute apocalypse of black business. That happens 1335 01:24:37.439 --> 01:24:40.000 like if you were you had black banks, you had 1336 01:24:40.079 --> 01:24:45.600 black grocery stores, credit unions, black insurance companies, black energy companies, 1337 01:24:46.960 --> 01:24:52.079 and the second the day after integration, you basically told 1338 01:24:52.079 --> 01:24:55.960 the black community, much like you were talking about with 1339 01:24:55.960 --> 01:24:59.159 with uh, you know who they're trying to date. If 1340 01:24:59.159 --> 01:25:01.760 you give a black the choice between, hey, do you 1341 01:25:01.760 --> 01:25:03.279 want to put your money in a black bank or 1342 01:25:03.279 --> 01:25:04.720 a white bank, what do you think he's going to do? 1343 01:25:06.079 --> 01:25:09.399 And we bankrupted black business literally overnight. 1344 01:25:10.119 --> 01:25:14.520 Well to understand that though properly is that what at 1345 01:25:14.560 --> 01:25:18.079 the time, It wasn't people that you would call right 1346 01:25:18.119 --> 01:25:22.560 wing racialists that were responsible for that. It was progressives. 1347 01:25:22.960 --> 01:25:26.279 They wanted that they wanted everyone to be together. They 1348 01:25:26.279 --> 01:25:28.840 didn't want a black bank and a white bank. They 1349 01:25:28.880 --> 01:25:33.439 wanted everyone to do. They wanted equality for everyone. When 1350 01:25:34.119 --> 01:25:37.439 you know something that Daryl talked about earlier about you know, 1351 01:25:37.520 --> 01:25:42.319 just basically teaching uncivilized people how to live in this country. 1352 01:25:43.359 --> 01:25:48.680 To his his tweet about you know what he sees 1353 01:25:48.760 --> 01:25:52.239 happening to Europe, I mean, I think this is one 1354 01:25:52.239 --> 01:25:55.439 of the reasons why Eric Prince talks so much about 1355 01:25:55.479 --> 01:25:59.760 Africa now, is if you don't do something about Africa, 1356 01:26:00.600 --> 01:26:03.119 and I mean, I know people have gone in there 1357 01:26:03.159 --> 01:26:07.119 and oh, we've tried to civilize them and are yeah, okay, fine, 1358 01:26:08.039 --> 01:26:10.359 don't try to turn them into white people. Figure out 1359 01:26:10.359 --> 01:26:13.800 what's best for them, how something works for them, and 1360 01:26:13.840 --> 01:26:16.479 then stay there until you can produce people who can 1361 01:26:16.520 --> 01:26:19.680 actually reproduce it. But if you don't do something about 1362 01:26:19.720 --> 01:26:23.039 them too, they're just going to overtake Europe. And if 1363 01:26:23.039 --> 01:26:26.319 they overtake Europe, they're going to come here. So I mean, 1364 01:26:27.720 --> 01:26:30.920 this is I know white people, you know, our guys 1365 01:26:30.960 --> 01:26:33.600 don't want to hear this, mostly because they don't want 1366 01:26:33.640 --> 01:26:36.479 to do anything. They just want to post on Twitter 1367 01:26:36.479 --> 01:26:38.800 and they want to listen to podcasts. Thank you for 1368 01:26:38.880 --> 01:26:42.279 listening to podcasts. I appreciate it, but maybe you really 1369 01:26:42.319 --> 01:26:44.239 have to start doing something too, and you have to 1370 01:26:44.279 --> 01:26:50.039 start thinking about ways that the future going forward for 1371 01:26:50.199 --> 01:26:53.640 all peoples. Because you can say, we just have to 1372 01:26:53.640 --> 01:26:58.000 figure out how to what's best for us and take 1373 01:26:58.039 --> 01:27:01.520 care of ourselves, but the actually that army is going 1374 01:27:01.600 --> 01:27:03.880 to come to you, and it's just a matter of 1375 01:27:04.000 --> 01:27:06.119 are you going to be able to hold the army off? 1376 01:27:06.199 --> 01:27:13.279 Or you go, what's there's a future that entails doing 1377 01:27:13.359 --> 01:27:15.880 stuff And it doesn't seem like we can do stuff 1378 01:27:15.880 --> 01:27:18.720 now because we're under occupation and everything. But if you 1379 01:27:19.000 --> 01:27:23.479 if we don't start acting now, then there really is 1380 01:27:23.560 --> 01:27:26.720 no future. There's the future is going to be very 1381 01:27:27.119 --> 01:27:35.840 very isolated into different spots and yeah, you're waiting for 1382 01:27:35.920 --> 01:27:39.359 somebody to just come and you know, overrun you. And 1383 01:27:39.399 --> 01:27:42.399 now maybe we can develop technology that if an army 1384 01:27:42.439 --> 01:27:46.199 shows up, we can vaporize them. But okay, who's doing that? 1385 01:27:46.279 --> 01:27:48.199 Who's who's doing it? Or are you doing that little 1386 01:27:48.319 --> 01:27:51.000 that research in your community of two thousand people. 1387 01:27:53.039 --> 01:27:55.840 So I think to Pete's point and too Darryl's point, 1388 01:27:56.359 --> 01:28:01.279 right A, you have the need for hemispheric leadership. You 1389 01:28:01.359 --> 01:28:06.840 have the lack of opportunities, frankly because of the financialization 1390 01:28:06.960 --> 01:28:11.479 of the economy and systematic exclusion. But you have a 1391 01:28:11.520 --> 01:28:15.920 lot of I mean everyone talks about like the competency crisis, 1392 01:28:16.000 --> 01:28:18.119 and I really don't think it is a competency crisis 1393 01:28:18.159 --> 01:28:21.800 at all. Right, Like, I'm not a navy guy, but 1394 01:28:22.079 --> 01:28:25.000 you can pretty much take the average white kid and 1395 01:28:25.039 --> 01:28:28.119 teach him how to run a nuclear reactor ten thousand 1396 01:28:28.119 --> 01:28:31.439 feet underwater in about two years, a little less than 1397 01:28:31.439 --> 01:28:36.479 two years. So there's really nothing that I think our 1398 01:28:36.520 --> 01:28:39.920 guys can't learn in a relatively small amount of time. 1399 01:28:40.520 --> 01:28:46.439 They've just been excluded from these opportunities. I think colonialism 1400 01:28:46.439 --> 01:28:50.920 solves all this, and I mean, really I do. I 1401 01:28:51.000 --> 01:28:54.520 know mister Prince probably agrees with that. But if you 1402 01:28:54.560 --> 01:28:58.600 go to India, I don't recommend you do, especially not now. 1403 01:29:00.119 --> 01:29:04.000 You ask a majority of the Indians over fifty you 1404 01:29:04.039 --> 01:29:07.319 know what political reality they want, and they will tell 1405 01:29:07.359 --> 01:29:10.640 you full throatedly that they want the brit They wish 1406 01:29:10.640 --> 01:29:12.680 the British would come back. You could say the exact 1407 01:29:12.720 --> 01:29:20.000 same thing for Africa, right almost. I mean even in 1408 01:29:20.039 --> 01:29:25.920 South Africa, right where it's politically you know, it's bad 1409 01:29:25.960 --> 01:29:30.640 politically to say something like this. But I think we 1410 01:29:30.800 --> 01:29:34.800 need to get over our squeamishness that leadership is a 1411 01:29:34.880 --> 01:29:40.319 hands on thing, right, It's a way. You know, you're 1412 01:29:40.319 --> 01:29:45.479 not going to teach you know, the Guatemalan about American 1413 01:29:45.600 --> 01:29:48.840 leadership unless you're doing it, you know, where he can 1414 01:29:48.880 --> 01:29:52.000 see it, right, where he can see the benefit of 1415 01:29:52.119 --> 01:29:56.199 your way of doing things versus not it. Also, I mean, 1416 01:29:59.199 --> 01:30:03.520 there's we can either fight over the same pie and 1417 01:30:03.560 --> 01:30:05.960 then we have to be exclusionary to be like, Okay, 1418 01:30:06.079 --> 01:30:12.039 well you're not part of this group of white young 1419 01:30:12.039 --> 01:30:14.479 men that have been excluded from the professional environment, so 1420 01:30:14.520 --> 01:30:17.359 we need to remove you and we need to put 1421 01:30:17.359 --> 01:30:21.520 these guys back in. That'll be really, really difficult. But 1422 01:30:21.560 --> 01:30:24.840 if you just expand the pie, you solve a lot 1423 01:30:24.840 --> 01:30:27.640 of problems at once. But the US would have to 1424 01:30:27.680 --> 01:30:32.600 get over this, like colonialism is bad thing because if 1425 01:30:32.600 --> 01:30:34.439 you look at what happened to the quality of lives 1426 01:30:34.439 --> 01:30:37.119 of these people, the worst thing that ever happened to 1427 01:30:37.159 --> 01:30:38.079 them was that we left. 1428 01:30:41.039 --> 01:30:44.199 There are moves being made in that direction, and Prince 1429 01:30:44.359 --> 01:30:46.319 is actually a big part of it. I know a 1430 01:30:46.359 --> 01:30:50.199 few guys who run a company that Prince is on 1431 01:30:50.239 --> 01:30:53.359 the board. Is one of their consultants and right now 1432 01:30:53.359 --> 01:30:56.039 they're trying to or they're in the process of buying 1433 01:30:56.079 --> 01:31:00.520 a cobalt mine, cobalt processing plant in the Congo. And 1434 01:31:00.560 --> 01:31:03.640 this is something that really would not have been I mean, 1435 01:31:03.680 --> 01:31:05.880 it would have been hyper speculative, you know, if you 1436 01:31:05.880 --> 01:31:07.760 would have tried it just a few years ago. But 1437 01:31:07.800 --> 01:31:11.119 the Trump administration, we've got some We've got some very 1438 01:31:11.159 --> 01:31:13.279 smart guys who are like young guys who are in 1439 01:31:13.359 --> 01:31:16.039 the administration like doing work. You know, they're not necessarily 1440 01:31:16.079 --> 01:31:18.479 the ones saying yes or no, but the ones who 1441 01:31:18.479 --> 01:31:20.720 are who are putting out. We've got some solid guys 1442 01:31:20.720 --> 01:31:23.239 in there, a lot of them working for VANCE. But 1443 01:31:23.239 --> 01:31:26.359 but but throughout the administration and State Department other places, 1444 01:31:27.079 --> 01:31:29.800 and what the Trump administration did was set up an 1445 01:31:29.800 --> 01:31:34.199 agency that essentially provides political risk insurance for somebody who's 1446 01:31:34.239 --> 01:31:36.359 willing to go in and try to do something like 1447 01:31:36.840 --> 01:31:39.800 purchase a you know, a cobalt mining plant in uh 1448 01:31:40.319 --> 01:31:43.760 in the Congo and doing it in ways where they're 1449 01:31:43.760 --> 01:31:47.239 trying to like very actively, like very consciously trying to 1450 01:31:47.279 --> 01:31:51.319 develop an economic elite in that country. That is somebody 1451 01:31:51.319 --> 01:31:53.399 that are people that we can work with and have 1452 01:31:53.520 --> 01:31:56.840 goals that we consider you know, worthy of just not 1453 01:31:56.840 --> 01:31:59.319 not only their country, but in our own interests as well. 1454 01:31:59.680 --> 01:32:01.800 You know. The problem, of course, like for for a 1455 01:32:01.840 --> 01:32:04.479 long time, is that this type of economic colonialism has 1456 01:32:04.560 --> 01:32:07.039 taken the form of, you know, we're doing it so 1457 01:32:07.079 --> 01:32:11.079 that you legalize public butt sex, you know, and that's 1458 01:32:11.079 --> 01:32:14.239 something that thankfully for the moment, you know, for the 1459 01:32:14.279 --> 01:32:17.920 time being, has been put aside. The headwinds that people 1460 01:32:17.960 --> 01:32:23.079 like that are facing, though, are that you know, like 1461 01:32:23.079 --> 01:32:26.399 like you ask, okay, the people in power, they get 1462 01:32:26.439 --> 01:32:29.640 accused all the time of being just in it for money, 1463 01:32:29.760 --> 01:32:32.640 They're selling their souls all this kind of stuff. Wouldn't 1464 01:32:32.760 --> 01:32:34.520 like you would think if it were just like a 1465 01:32:34.560 --> 01:32:37.560 straightforward version of that, that they would have a problem 1466 01:32:37.600 --> 01:32:41.000 with a half a trillion dollars leaving the country every 1467 01:32:41.039 --> 01:32:43.920 year in remittances. But they don't. And the reason is 1468 01:32:43.920 --> 01:32:45.880 that there is there are a lot of these people 1469 01:32:45.880 --> 01:32:50.039 who are very much in the mode of just the 1470 01:32:50.079 --> 01:32:53.359 party's ending. Soon, steal the fucking silverware and get out, 1471 01:32:53.640 --> 01:32:55.680 you know, and and take the take the nice door 1472 01:32:55.760 --> 01:32:58.079 knobs off, and all the nice faucets and just get 1473 01:32:58.079 --> 01:33:01.159 the hell out. And you know, just as a specific example, 1474 01:33:01.199 --> 01:33:06.479 of that. I have this from an absolutely unimpeachable cabinet 1475 01:33:06.560 --> 01:33:09.600 level source. I can't go further than that. Right now, 1476 01:33:09.640 --> 01:33:11.600 I'm working on how to, you know, talking to a 1477 01:33:11.640 --> 01:33:15.279 few people about how to make it more detailed in public. 1478 01:33:15.319 --> 01:33:19.960 But that, Susie Wilds, the Chief of Staff, is just 1479 01:33:20.000 --> 01:33:24.039 straight up, very openly like Tammany Hall style. Anybody that 1480 01:33:24.239 --> 01:33:28.039 wants to talk to the president has got to make 1481 01:33:28.039 --> 01:33:31.279 a forty thousand dollars dollar donation to her consulting company 1482 01:33:31.319 --> 01:33:35.079 per month or two hundred thousand dollars per year. And 1483 01:33:35.119 --> 01:33:38.319 it's just very very briefcase under the cash style like 1484 01:33:38.479 --> 01:33:42.399 nineteenth century like open corruption, you know. And again that 1485 01:33:42.520 --> 01:33:46.760 is from an absolutely unimpeachable cabinet level source. And there's 1486 01:33:46.800 --> 01:33:48.920 a lot of people who are like that. And so 1487 01:33:49.039 --> 01:33:50.800 we have like a lot of good guys who are 1488 01:33:50.800 --> 01:33:55.000 trying to advance these goals in the administration, but they 1489 01:33:55.039 --> 01:33:57.000 got to deal with people like that, you know, you 1490 01:33:57.119 --> 01:33:58.960 got to deal with I know a guy who was 1491 01:33:59.000 --> 01:34:02.000 at dinner with Tom home one on one and no, no, 1492 01:34:01.960 --> 01:34:05.199 I'm sorry he was. He was at dinner with a 1493 01:34:05.840 --> 01:34:09.720 Texas sheriff who had who knows Tom Holman very well 1494 01:34:09.720 --> 01:34:12.600 and had worked with his people on a big operation 1495 01:34:12.760 --> 01:34:17.640 down there recently, and he was saying that Tom said that, 1496 01:34:17.720 --> 01:34:19.560 you know, this is these are the kind of things 1497 01:34:19.600 --> 01:34:23.359 that just make our system very difficult to work around. 1498 01:34:23.520 --> 01:34:26.319 That Christy Nome wants to run for president in twenty 1499 01:34:26.359 --> 01:34:29.399 twenty eight, and so she's actually slow rolling a lot 1500 01:34:29.399 --> 01:34:32.800 of the attempts to engage in mass deportations any of 1501 01:34:32.840 --> 01:34:36.239 these things that would look like, you know, either massive 1502 01:34:36.279 --> 01:34:39.199 successes for people like Vance, who's you know, closer to 1503 01:34:39.399 --> 01:34:41.760 closer to the president and sort of the obvious successor, 1504 01:34:42.479 --> 01:34:47.199 but also look at the by the Republican and other 1505 01:34:47.600 --> 01:34:50.399 people whose support that she's going to want as her 1506 01:34:50.640 --> 01:34:53.520 you know, sort of going along with this barbaric practice 1507 01:34:53.560 --> 01:34:55.560 and blah blah blah. So she's like actively as the 1508 01:34:55.560 --> 01:34:59.840 head of DHS, actively stonewalling the attempts to you know, 1509 01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:03.239 to engage in the deportation process and and home, and 1510 01:35:03.640 --> 01:35:05.720 very often is having to find ways to do it 1511 01:35:06.359 --> 01:35:09.800 where they can just basically go around the DHS infrastructure, 1512 01:35:10.119 --> 01:35:15.079 you know, like the the one in particular where in 1513 01:35:15.119 --> 01:35:17.399 Texas that I'm talking about, Like he had to go 1514 01:35:17.479 --> 01:35:19.880 actually and work with a lower level guy at the 1515 01:35:19.920 --> 01:35:22.880 FBI and use their resources to go down and round 1516 01:35:22.960 --> 01:35:24.520 up a bunch of these people because it was a 1517 01:35:24.520 --> 01:35:27.319 small enough number that they could handle it with local, 1518 01:35:27.520 --> 01:35:30.439 local resources and some help from the FBI, without having 1519 01:35:30.439 --> 01:35:32.880 to run it all the way up to the DHS 1520 01:35:32.920 --> 01:35:34.960 flag pole. And so these are the kind of things 1521 01:35:34.960 --> 01:35:37.239 that make it very, very difficult. But there are people 1522 01:35:37.239 --> 01:35:39.560 in there who understand what you're saying, that you know, 1523 01:35:39.640 --> 01:35:43.399 colonial like a benevolent colonialism, you know, a sort of 1524 01:35:44.920 --> 01:35:49.000 a sort of you know, almost almost Marshall Plan for 1525 01:35:49.199 --> 01:35:52.600 the Western hemisphere, you know, idea that like, you know, 1526 01:35:52.760 --> 01:35:55.039 you can you can put one hundred foot wall up 1527 01:35:55.079 --> 01:35:58.640 lined with machine guns. You know, Israel tried that and 1528 01:35:58.680 --> 01:36:01.239 they still get through from time to time, and it's 1529 01:36:01.239 --> 01:36:04.439 still a problem for them. And as long as uh, 1530 01:36:04.479 --> 01:36:07.920 you know, we have economic policies and just governmental and 1531 01:36:07.960 --> 01:36:12.359 social systems in Latin America that are completely fucked, it's 1532 01:36:12.399 --> 01:36:14.680 just it's it's gonna be a permanent problem and the 1533 01:36:14.720 --> 01:36:18.000 only way to really permanently fix it. Like, I don't 1534 01:36:18.000 --> 01:36:20.840 know what the numbers are of people fleeing El Salvador 1535 01:36:20.880 --> 01:36:22.880 for the United States right now, but I imagine they're 1536 01:36:22.880 --> 01:36:24.439 a hell of a lot lower than they used to be, 1537 01:36:25.159 --> 01:36:27.760 you know. And uh, if you could get twenty more 1538 01:36:27.800 --> 01:36:31.279 bouquels and you know, actually have some governments and uh 1539 01:36:31.560 --> 01:36:34.920 that that that were not just you know, systematic looting 1540 01:36:34.920 --> 01:36:39.119 operations basically in these countries, then you know, you could 1541 01:36:39.119 --> 01:36:42.279 stem the tide a bit that way. And and and 1542 01:36:42.319 --> 01:36:44.159 I think that you know, in a way, yeah, like 1543 01:36:44.800 --> 01:36:47.720 if Africa takes over Europe, they're eventually coming here is 1544 01:36:47.800 --> 01:36:50.279 kind of a thing. But you know, obviously you have 1545 01:36:50.439 --> 01:36:53.399 the oceans between us. But also I think it's a 1546 01:36:53.439 --> 01:36:56.800 lot easier for people, you know, if we were much 1547 01:36:56.840 --> 01:36:59.439 more integrated and seen as a natural leader of the 1548 01:36:59.439 --> 01:37:02.720 Western head hemisphere, as the protector of the Western hemisphere, 1549 01:37:02.720 --> 01:37:05.079 and seen that way by the other countries you know 1550 01:37:05.119 --> 01:37:08.119 that are here with us, it's a lot easier for 1551 01:37:08.239 --> 01:37:14.159 your average American sort of normy Christian type to justify 1552 01:37:14.199 --> 01:37:18.680 and rationalize to themselves. Uh, keeping people from you know, 1553 01:37:18.800 --> 01:37:22.079 from over the oceans, from coming across the oceans and 1554 01:37:22.079 --> 01:37:23.800 coming in here, en Moss and the same type of 1555 01:37:23.840 --> 01:37:26.279 numbers that we've dealt with from Latin America. They can 1556 01:37:26.359 --> 01:37:28.760 they can justify that to themselves, especially if they can 1557 01:37:28.800 --> 01:37:32.279 frame it in terms of protecting the Western hemisphere itself, 1558 01:37:32.319 --> 01:37:35.880 you know, and being leaders of the Western hemisphere. But 1559 01:37:35.960 --> 01:37:37.920 it does require like a you know, a lot more 1560 01:37:37.920 --> 01:37:40.760 integration with our hemispheric neighbors, you know, which it's very 1561 01:37:40.840 --> 01:37:44.039 unfortunate that due to uh, you know, a lot of 1562 01:37:44.079 --> 01:37:45.640 it due to the Cold War, but a lot of 1563 01:37:45.680 --> 01:37:49.359 it due to just economic practices and and and the 1564 01:37:49.359 --> 01:37:52.319 way we managed relations with a lot of Latin America 1565 01:37:53.159 --> 01:37:55.279 in the you know, the early years of sort of 1566 01:37:55.319 --> 01:37:58.399 advanced capitalism. We have a lot of we have a 1567 01:37:58.399 --> 01:38:01.600 lot of ending of fences to do, you know, a 1568 01:38:01.600 --> 01:38:04.279 lot of bridges to rebuild with a lot of those countries. 1569 01:38:04.319 --> 01:38:08.479 But we can totally do it. And and I think that, 1570 01:38:08.640 --> 01:38:11.199 you know, one of the things is about it too, 1571 01:38:11.279 --> 01:38:13.640 is it? You know? And this sounds like something I 1572 01:38:13.960 --> 01:38:15.520 mentioned this to my wife the other day or a 1573 01:38:15.600 --> 01:38:18.159 version of this, and you know, she's always very much 1574 01:38:18.520 --> 01:38:21.319 in the in the in the mode of like, well, 1575 01:38:21.359 --> 01:38:23.279 we don't need any of that. We just need like 1576 01:38:23.399 --> 01:38:25.960 somebody in charge, people in charge who are willing to 1577 01:38:25.960 --> 01:38:28.039 bring out the tanks if they have to and roll 1578 01:38:28.079 --> 01:38:31.920 over any resistance. And I say, yeah, like theoretically that's true, 1579 01:38:32.239 --> 01:38:37.319 but realistically. You know, you have to give the American 1580 01:38:37.399 --> 01:38:41.399 people like like a moral escape route. You know, you 1581 01:38:41.520 --> 01:38:44.079 have to be able to let them frame things in 1582 01:38:44.119 --> 01:38:46.640 a way that doesn't make them feel like like a 1583 01:38:46.800 --> 01:38:49.279 like an Unchristian kind of terrible person. Even if a 1584 01:38:49.319 --> 01:38:51.319 lot of it is just been siopped into them since 1585 01:38:51.319 --> 01:38:53.640 they were little kids, it's still there and we still 1586 01:38:53.640 --> 01:38:57.279 have to deal with that. And you know, further integration 1587 01:38:57.479 --> 01:39:00.399 with Latin America and the Latin Americans who are in 1588 01:39:00.439 --> 01:39:02.800 this country, who are who are here and want to 1589 01:39:02.840 --> 01:39:05.560 be here, and who are willing to be Americans, I 1590 01:39:05.560 --> 01:39:07.640 think it gives them a lot of the moral cover 1591 01:39:07.760 --> 01:39:09.800 that they would need to do the other hard things 1592 01:39:09.800 --> 01:39:10.800 that would be necessary. 1593 01:39:12.079 --> 01:39:14.279 Canada has to go. I mean, we talked about a 1594 01:39:14.359 --> 01:39:18.079 narco state on our border. That's basically Canada. I mean, 1595 01:39:18.119 --> 01:39:23.560 you've got members of the CCP Intelligence Apparatus as MP's 1596 01:39:23.880 --> 01:39:25.119 in the Canadian Parliament. 1597 01:39:25.720 --> 01:39:30.000 Dude, you have, you have, you have Indian government sanctioned 1598 01:39:30.119 --> 01:39:32.439 hits being carried out in Canada. 1599 01:39:33.199 --> 01:39:38.560 Yep. The out of all of the arguments that we 1600 01:39:38.800 --> 01:39:42.039 just made for a more benevolent type of way to 1601 01:39:42.119 --> 01:39:51.600 view our politics, the Indians Cattaco I mean it's you know, 1602 01:39:52.560 --> 01:39:56.000 there are two nationalists like they'll never they never integrate. 1603 01:39:56.279 --> 01:39:58.680 There's there's only one nationalism that's going to have to 1604 01:39:58.760 --> 01:39:59.239 be allowed. 1605 01:40:00.960 --> 01:40:09.000 It's I mean, it's it's diaspe people, Zionism, Hinduism. 1606 01:40:09.720 --> 01:40:12.359 But well, if Zionism is the same as Indianism, now 1607 01:40:15.119 --> 01:40:16.720 ender of Israeli. 1608 01:40:16.279 --> 01:40:20.840 States is you're pretty aligned. You know, I'm not calling 1609 01:40:20.960 --> 01:40:24.880 for dealing with diaspora groups the way Stalin did, but 1610 01:40:25.000 --> 01:40:28.840 it's interesting that Stalin understood exactly what the ospital, what 1611 01:40:28.880 --> 01:40:32.680 could a the ospera group could do to what he 1612 01:40:32.720 --> 01:40:37.680 was building there. And yeah, and it's also interesting that 1613 01:40:37.800 --> 01:40:43.319 you really even after nineteen forty eight, it took a 1614 01:40:43.359 --> 01:40:47.840 couple of years and he died in what fifty four, Sarah, 1615 01:40:47.960 --> 01:40:49.720 it took it took a couple of years for him 1616 01:40:49.720 --> 01:40:53.039 to understand that now that Israel was a state, that Okay, 1617 01:40:53.079 --> 01:40:56.039 we may have a problem here, but yeah, I mean, 1618 01:40:56.199 --> 01:41:01.640 when everything Darryl's saying is correct, and we could do 1619 01:41:01.800 --> 01:41:07.039 all this, but we're occupied. And until that occupation is 1620 01:41:07.159 --> 01:41:10.159 dealt with, you know, until you have somebody who can 1621 01:41:10.279 --> 01:41:13.000 run and I think everyone knows by now, I'm not 1622 01:41:13.079 --> 01:41:15.880 a national politics guy. But until you have someone who 1623 01:41:15.880 --> 01:41:19.279 can run for president who is openly anti Zionist, who's 1624 01:41:19.319 --> 01:41:22.640 openly anti Israel, like or or at least no, not 1625 01:41:22.720 --> 01:41:26.079 even anti Israel, but like now we're not gonna know. No, 1626 01:41:26.199 --> 01:41:30.199 they're just like Mandami. I think Cameron McGregor made a 1627 01:41:30.199 --> 01:41:32.159 really good point when he was on my show recently. 1628 01:41:32.239 --> 01:41:36.680 He said, Mamdami getting elected, Mandammi getting elected in New 1629 01:41:36.760 --> 01:41:39.560 York should be a white pill for people who understand, 1630 01:41:39.640 --> 01:41:44.359 you know, who are anti Zionist power, because even if 1631 01:41:44.399 --> 01:41:47.199 he is not anti Zionist, even if this is all 1632 01:41:47.199 --> 01:41:49.600 an act, and even if he's going to kiss the wall, 1633 01:41:49.880 --> 01:41:52.600 you know, in a couple of weeks, the people voted 1634 01:41:52.680 --> 01:41:54.680 for somebody who was like, yeah, we know, we don't 1635 01:41:54.720 --> 01:41:57.920 care about that country over there. No, it's it's here. 1636 01:41:58.720 --> 01:42:01.600 The reason I'm I want to be mayor is I 1637 01:42:01.640 --> 01:42:03.920 want to take care of New Yorkers. Now we know 1638 01:42:03.960 --> 01:42:06.279 he just wants to. He's a gay race communist is 1639 01:42:06.319 --> 01:42:10.119 basically what he is. He's not an undercover Muslim, he's Obama. 1640 01:42:10.199 --> 01:42:13.600 He's a gay race communist. But still what the people 1641 01:42:13.760 --> 01:42:15.800 chose should be a white pill. 1642 01:42:17.560 --> 01:42:23.039 I agree. I think anti we'll call it like anti 1643 01:42:23.239 --> 01:42:29.239 zionist interventionism and anti zionist fiscal support is going to 1644 01:42:29.319 --> 01:42:32.960 be on the ticket in twenty twenty six. Right the midterms, 1645 01:42:33.800 --> 01:42:37.640 it's already happening, like the congressman getting the most traction 1646 01:42:39.359 --> 01:42:41.640 basically to primary some of the ones that are sorry, 1647 01:42:41.640 --> 01:42:44.720 the future congressman in the process of primarying some of 1648 01:42:44.760 --> 01:42:47.119 the existing congressmen. The ones that are running on the 1649 01:42:47.119 --> 01:42:50.479 fact that they are taking no A pack dollars are 1650 01:42:50.520 --> 01:42:52.840 getting a tremendous amount of traction and they don't have 1651 01:42:52.880 --> 01:42:56.359 to pay one red cent to any marketing company for 1652 01:42:56.479 --> 01:43:03.039 any of that traction because it's organic, isn't. Susie Wiles 1653 01:43:03.079 --> 01:43:07.199 the former campaign manager for Benjamin Nett and Yahoo that 1654 01:43:07.359 --> 01:43:08.279 Susie wild. 1655 01:43:08.600 --> 01:43:11.119 I don't remember who's the campaign manager, but she definitely 1656 01:43:11.199 --> 01:43:12.159 ran something for him. 1657 01:43:12.239 --> 01:43:19.000 Yeah, oh man, Yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't. 1658 01:43:19.119 --> 01:43:23.159 It's literally it's comical at this point. It's common. It's 1659 01:43:23.239 --> 01:43:26.239 comical at this point that when you when you bring 1660 01:43:26.359 --> 01:43:29.520 somebody up, it's like, you know, Josh Hammer running, Douglas 1661 01:43:29.600 --> 01:43:32.439 Murray running all over the place. Right, Oh, you're woke, right, 1662 01:43:32.479 --> 01:43:38.279 you're woke. Right. They write speeches for Israeli politicians and 1663 01:43:38.319 --> 01:43:39.800 they're not registered under Farah. 1664 01:43:42.000 --> 01:43:44.199 All I want is just what it was nationalism for me. 1665 01:43:45.079 --> 01:43:48.880 Yeah, exactly, it's. 1666 01:43:48.680 --> 01:43:52.800 All I want. Somebody. Can we just have a little 1667 01:43:52.800 --> 01:43:56.359 bit of what Israel has? Yeah, it's this is going 1668 01:43:56.399 --> 01:43:58.800 to be the pass through. 1669 01:43:59.640 --> 01:44:03.680 Yeah. And it goes back to the whole thing about like, look, man, 1670 01:44:04.199 --> 01:44:07.399 I'm my family is not heritage American. I have nowhere 1671 01:44:07.399 --> 01:44:11.239 else to go. I have no I have notes ties, 1672 01:44:11.399 --> 01:44:14.159 I've lived in another country before I came back. Why 1673 01:44:15.119 --> 01:44:18.880 I didn't belong there. It's just I have no place 1674 01:44:18.880 --> 01:44:20.720 off to go, man, So I'm. 1675 01:44:20.560 --> 01:44:24.560 Gonna fa In twelve Block's novel Submission, the guy is 1676 01:44:24.560 --> 01:44:28.359 a Jewish girlfriend who's leaving for Israel because things are, 1677 01:44:28.560 --> 01:44:31.239 you know, becoming Muslim in France, and he tells her, 1678 01:44:31.239 --> 01:44:32.520 I don't have an Israel to go to. 1679 01:44:34.800 --> 01:44:42.039 And then anyways, it's a fantastic book. 1680 01:44:43.279 --> 01:44:47.520 I mean, look, you know the the Yeah, it's really amazing. 1681 01:44:47.560 --> 01:44:53.760 How Yeah, when you read something like Cuddy's book The 1682 01:44:53.880 --> 01:44:58.039 Ordeal of Civility, and then you look at the just 1683 01:44:58.159 --> 01:45:03.039 the smooth, the smooth of the propaganda that really consumed 1684 01:45:03.079 --> 01:45:05.399 us over the course of the twentieth century. What you 1685 01:45:05.479 --> 01:45:08.680 kind of realize is that that was entirely dependent on 1686 01:45:08.800 --> 01:45:12.000 having very very few media channels that could be run 1687 01:45:12.079 --> 01:45:16.560 by very very adept propagandists, and that once everything opened up, 1688 01:45:16.600 --> 01:45:19.319 I mean, you see this ordeal of civility thesis just 1689 01:45:19.399 --> 01:45:23.159 spill out into public in ways that are really radicalizing people. 1690 01:45:23.199 --> 01:45:25.199 I mean, you just you know, I don't know if 1691 01:45:25.199 --> 01:45:28.479 you guys saw the video that's been going around. I 1692 01:45:28.479 --> 01:45:31.000 think it was at that event Barry Weiss held the 1693 01:45:31.079 --> 01:45:34.199 other day or last week or whatever, and there was 1694 01:45:34.239 --> 01:45:39.680 this this female Jewish activist or institutional leader, I don't 1695 01:45:39.800 --> 01:45:41.520 even remember who she was, but she was going on 1696 01:45:41.600 --> 01:45:45.640 and on about how, you know, just they're losing the 1697 01:45:45.680 --> 01:45:49.119 younger generation because the younger generation is seeing all of 1698 01:45:49.159 --> 01:45:52.560 these pictures of destruction and dead babies in Gaza, and 1699 01:45:52.600 --> 01:45:55.479 they're filtering all of our arguments that were giving them 1700 01:45:55.479 --> 01:45:57.600 in favor of Israel, like through the lens of the 1701 01:45:57.640 --> 01:46:00.319 carnage they're witnessing, and this is something that you know, 1702 01:46:00.359 --> 01:46:02.520 we really need to get control of. And then she says, 1703 01:46:03.000 --> 01:46:05.159 you know, because for years we invested a lot, we 1704 01:46:05.279 --> 01:46:09.319 bet a lot on Holocaust education as a way, Oh yes, 1705 01:46:10.560 --> 01:46:14.199 anti Semitism, and uh, you know, but people have taken 1706 01:46:14.239 --> 01:46:17.159 the wrong lesson from that. They think the lesson is 1707 01:46:17.159 --> 01:46:20.760 that we should not be comfortable with big, strong, you know, 1708 01:46:20.960 --> 01:46:25.359 powerful people of pressing and harming smaller, weaker people. That's 1709 01:46:25.399 --> 01:46:28.680 not the lesson, you know. The and in the old days, 1710 01:46:29.279 --> 01:46:31.920 when you had three channels, you know, in a couple 1711 01:46:31.960 --> 01:46:35.560 of newspapers, whatever, there would have been like somebody in 1712 01:46:35.600 --> 01:46:38.279 the hierarchy, like before it got to the level of 1713 01:46:38.319 --> 01:46:41.920 like mass public attention, that would be like somebody, shut 1714 01:46:41.960 --> 01:46:45.720 this bitch up. Like no, that just doesn't exist anymore. 1715 01:46:45.800 --> 01:46:49.119 You know. You have this ordeal of civility just playing 1716 01:46:49.119 --> 01:46:51.840 out in public. I mean, you have guys like John 1717 01:46:51.880 --> 01:46:54.279 pod Horetz, who's one of my favorite kind of just 1718 01:46:54.640 --> 01:46:56.319 I don't know, I don't, I don't. I'm the type 1719 01:46:56.319 --> 01:46:58.960 of person I don't generally like to like go at 1720 01:46:58.960 --> 01:47:02.359 people personally. Uh when I'm want to Joe, but I 1721 01:47:02.399 --> 01:47:05.159 can't stand that prick dude, Like he's a guy who 1722 01:47:05.199 --> 01:47:07.840 Like there was this woman she was like a TV chef, 1723 01:47:08.000 --> 01:47:10.520 like I can't remember her name, TV celebrity chef type, 1724 01:47:10.560 --> 01:47:14.359 you know. Uh no it wasn't Rachel Ray, but it 1725 01:47:14.399 --> 01:47:17.159 was somebody else and she made a I mean just 1726 01:47:17.359 --> 01:47:20.800 like a miss Rachel type, just anodyne comment about like, 1727 01:47:20.840 --> 01:47:23.359 wouldn't it be great if all of this destruction in 1728 01:47:23.399 --> 01:47:27.359 Gaza stopped, you know, something, just completely inoffensive. And he 1729 01:47:27.439 --> 01:47:29.880 said he just comes out he doesn't know this woman 1730 01:47:30.199 --> 01:47:32.199 all right, and I don't know who her father or 1731 01:47:32.479 --> 01:47:35.560 brothers or husband are, where the fuck they are, But 1732 01:47:35.600 --> 01:47:38.880 he goes on in public and just says to this woman, well, 1733 01:47:38.880 --> 01:47:41.680 maybe you should keep your mouth shut, you anti Semitic 1734 01:47:41.760 --> 01:47:46.399 fucking piece of shit. And it's like Jesus, like, what 1735 01:47:46.520 --> 01:47:48.880 kind of a human being like just goes in public 1736 01:47:48.920 --> 01:47:51.399 and speaks to a woman that he doesn't know like that, 1737 01:47:51.600 --> 01:47:54.039 you know. And the answer is somebody like John pod 1738 01:47:54.039 --> 01:47:55.880 Horritz and all of his friends and they just can't 1739 01:47:55.920 --> 01:47:56.640 help themselves. 1740 01:47:56.640 --> 01:47:56.920 And so. 1741 01:47:58.600 --> 01:48:01.479 Yeah, it's in your DNA. 1742 01:48:02.119 --> 01:48:05.359 Have you seen. Yeah, there was somebody passing around. It 1743 01:48:05.439 --> 01:48:09.680 was from YouTube and just other other platforms. The number 1744 01:48:09.840 --> 01:48:14.600 of subscribers by month that Daily Wire and Ben Shapiro 1745 01:48:14.680 --> 01:48:17.199 were gaining it is like over the last year, and 1746 01:48:17.279 --> 01:48:19.039 it's like, you know, the first six months are all 1747 01:48:19.039 --> 01:48:21.399 like gaining this many, gaining this many, and then around 1748 01:48:21.479 --> 01:48:24.640 April May. It's just like losing this many, losing this many, 1749 01:48:24.760 --> 01:48:26.960 just straight on through. I sent it to Tucker last 1750 01:48:27.039 --> 01:48:29.600 night and we were laughing about it because he's right, like, 1751 01:48:29.640 --> 01:48:32.119 these people are shooting themselves in the foot. All you 1752 01:48:32.199 --> 01:48:34.079 have to do is put a microphone in front of 1753 01:48:34.159 --> 01:48:37.600 them and let him speak for themselves, and the whole 1754 01:48:37.640 --> 01:48:38.479 thing unravels. 1755 01:48:38.800 --> 01:48:42.840 Well, the Mark Levin tirade that I believe, I believe 1756 01:48:42.880 --> 01:48:45.920 Tucker played this specific tirade that I saw him go on, 1757 01:48:46.560 --> 01:48:49.039 and to your point about the ordeal of civility, like 1758 01:48:49.039 --> 01:48:52.319 the Ordeal of civility is basically over like because the 1759 01:48:52.359 --> 01:48:55.000 whole point of that book is is that these arguments 1760 01:48:55.000 --> 01:49:00.000 are their way of obfuskating this like racial ethnic animal 1761 01:49:00.439 --> 01:49:03.239 that's like undermining or underpinning excuse me, all of their 1762 01:49:03.239 --> 01:49:06.439 philosophies and their theories and how it's really just ethnic 1763 01:49:06.479 --> 01:49:10.399 grievances that's gone now because Mark Levine was just like, 1764 01:49:10.920 --> 01:49:14.119 you people want to kill Jews, you want to genocide us, 1765 01:49:14.720 --> 01:49:16.800 and it's not going to happen. You couldn't do it 1766 01:49:16.840 --> 01:49:18.520 before and you're not gonna be able to do it now. 1767 01:49:18.560 --> 01:49:22.399 And who is this resonating with? I mean, what person 1768 01:49:22.840 --> 01:49:26.399 listening to that young person in particular, but even also 1769 01:49:26.479 --> 01:49:29.600 even boomers like this doesn't even Mike Savage, who was 1770 01:49:29.600 --> 01:49:31.760 like remember him, did you ever listen to Michael Savage? 1771 01:49:31.800 --> 01:49:35.319 He was just a vicious pro war like genocide. 1772 01:49:35.319 --> 01:49:36.199 Iraqis right. 1773 01:49:36.680 --> 01:49:39.560 He never even said things like this like we are 1774 01:49:39.640 --> 01:49:40.720 so far beyond even THO. 1775 01:49:41.800 --> 01:49:45.479 He's Michael Savage. I forget what he calls. He's been 1776 01:49:45.720 --> 01:49:48.880 ripping on Mark Levin lately because he realizes the damage 1777 01:49:48.920 --> 01:49:50.079 that Mark Levin is doing. 1778 01:49:50.199 --> 01:49:53.359 Yeah, exactly, That's exactly my point. I didn't even know that. 1779 01:49:53.920 --> 01:49:56.279 Well, this is kind of like what was happening in Weimar, 1780 01:49:56.399 --> 01:49:58.439 where you had like the German Jews who had been 1781 01:49:58.479 --> 01:50:01.439 there for Nerot makes difference, you know, six hundred years, 1782 01:50:01.439 --> 01:50:04.960 four hundred years. They're screaming at the top of their lungs. 1783 01:50:04.960 --> 01:50:07.960 I mean, don't get me wrong, like a German Jewish 1784 01:50:08.039 --> 01:50:12.199 owned media company is screaming at newly formed you know, 1785 01:50:12.640 --> 01:50:16.399 Eastern European Jewish company media companies as the only media 1786 01:50:16.439 --> 01:50:20.199 conversation happening in Germany, I mean, is a problem. But 1787 01:50:20.279 --> 01:50:22.439 they're screaming at these guys. They're like, you need to 1788 01:50:22.720 --> 01:50:25.239 like you need to settle the fuck down, or you 1789 01:50:25.319 --> 01:50:28.880 are going to get us all in a whole bunch 1790 01:50:28.920 --> 01:50:32.479 of trouble. And they said that right up until, like 1791 01:50:34.960 --> 01:50:36.840 I think it was actually after Crystal Knock. They were 1792 01:50:36.840 --> 01:50:39.039 still they were still trying to calm these fools down. 1793 01:50:39.600 --> 01:50:44.439 But they don't listen. They have no you know, volume 1794 01:50:44.479 --> 01:50:46.319 down button. It's only volume of is. 1795 01:50:46.520 --> 01:50:49.760 No one wants to genocide them, No one is. They're 1796 01:50:49.800 --> 01:50:54.159 not under attack. I mean the Dave Portnoy thing, what 1797 01:50:54.239 --> 01:50:55.880 did what did the guy say, fuck Jews and he 1798 01:50:55.920 --> 01:50:58.239 threw a penny at him, Like that's the only example 1799 01:50:58.279 --> 01:51:01.000 they have of them being under a hack. You know, 1800 01:51:01.439 --> 01:51:03.319 nobody is saying this, so I don't know who it's 1801 01:51:03.319 --> 01:51:06.680 going to resonate with. And it's just uh, shooting themselves 1802 01:51:06.720 --> 01:51:07.079 in the foot. 1803 01:51:07.840 --> 01:51:12.439 Literally, it's literally what bringing people would do to Italians 1804 01:51:12.479 --> 01:51:15.239 in New York or you know. I mean, it's that 1805 01:51:15.319 --> 01:51:17.960 kind of stuff that those are kind of ethnic jokes 1806 01:51:18.319 --> 01:51:20.680 that you would see in New York when I was 1807 01:51:20.680 --> 01:51:22.720 growing up in New York, you know, and it would 1808 01:51:22.760 --> 01:51:25.920 be taken as a as a joke. But the reason 1809 01:51:26.000 --> 01:51:28.479 why it's not taken as a joke, and even the 1810 01:51:28.520 --> 01:51:31.680 person who's doing it has some malice behind it is 1811 01:51:31.720 --> 01:51:35.800 because it's become so they can't shut up. I mean, 1812 01:51:35.920 --> 01:51:38.359 Dave Portnoy is one of those people, one of those 1813 01:51:38.399 --> 01:51:42.520 same people who you criticize him a little bit on 1814 01:51:42.600 --> 01:51:45.960 the smallest thing, and he starts screaming, you know, pogram 1815 01:51:46.520 --> 01:51:48.840 and you just can't do you can't do that. There 1816 01:51:48.920 --> 01:51:53.560 was some Zionist lady at the God what is this 1817 01:51:53.680 --> 01:51:56.399 thing called the Jewish Federation of North America? 1818 01:51:57.039 --> 01:52:01.439 She is something something we don't control everything, Yes, of 1819 01:52:01.479 --> 01:52:02.319 North America. 1820 01:52:02.399 --> 01:52:06.760 Yeah, yeah, Sarah her work, she says she mourned that 1821 01:52:07.359 --> 01:52:11.439 Western Jews reimagine Judaism as a Protestant style religion in 1822 01:52:11.520 --> 01:52:14.880 order to integrate into Western society, rather than retaining a 1823 01:52:14.920 --> 01:52:18.000 strong identity that's loyal to the state of Israel. She quoted, 1824 01:52:18.159 --> 01:52:22.560 the problem is we're not just a religion. We're a nation, civilization, tribe, peoplehood, 1825 01:52:22.760 --> 01:52:24.560 but most of all, we're a family. And so if 1826 01:52:24.560 --> 01:52:27.199 you're a young person raised in America who thinks Judaism 1827 01:52:27.199 --> 01:52:30.119 as a Protestant star religion, then the seven million Jews 1828 01:52:30.159 --> 01:52:33.760 in Israel merely your co religionists. So my co religion 1829 01:52:33.800 --> 01:52:35.840 is if I look at them, and they're not practicing 1830 01:52:35.880 --> 01:52:40.520 my religion or social justice and certain prophetic values, then 1831 01:52:40.560 --> 01:52:42.720 what do I have to do with them? But that's 1832 01:52:42.760 --> 01:52:46.000 a category era the seven million people in Israel. They're 1833 01:52:46.039 --> 01:52:49.399 not my co religionists, they're my siblings. But I think 1834 01:52:49.399 --> 01:52:51.680 if you think of them as merely your co religionists, 1835 01:52:51.680 --> 01:52:55.199 it's easy to slide into anti Zionism. You don't necessarily 1836 01:52:55.239 --> 01:52:58.159 have a connection to them. You know, she's basically saying 1837 01:52:58.159 --> 01:53:00.199 that the world should be lay the Jews are. The 1838 01:53:00.199 --> 01:53:02.760 world should be loyal to Israel no matter what Israel does, 1839 01:53:02.880 --> 01:53:06.159 not because that's the moral or truthful position, but because 1840 01:53:06.319 --> 01:53:10.960 Israel is where their loyalties really, you know, where they belong. 1841 01:53:11.159 --> 01:53:14.600 And it's like you read that and then you look 1842 01:53:14.640 --> 01:53:16.880 at Biden's cabinet, or you look at all the people, 1843 01:53:16.920 --> 01:53:20.199 you look at the person who's standing behind Donald Trump 1844 01:53:20.239 --> 01:53:24.159 every time he speaks, and you're like, well, I mean, well, 1845 01:53:24.159 --> 01:53:26.840 we don't have a country. Then we're being ruled by 1846 01:53:26.840 --> 01:53:31.239 a people who have a loyalty, and not only a loyalty, 1847 01:53:31.720 --> 01:53:38.319 but like an intense, like like blood tie to someplace else. 1848 01:53:39.119 --> 01:53:41.640 You know, it's the same, it's the same reason why 1849 01:53:41.960 --> 01:53:46.399 you know when when Ben Shapiro talks about sending money 1850 01:53:46.399 --> 01:53:49.840 to Israel, he calls it aid, and when Americans want money, 1851 01:53:49.840 --> 01:53:54.199 Ben Shapiro calls it welfare. Yeah, if you have somebody 1852 01:53:54.239 --> 01:53:57.119 here who needs money, Ben Shapiro calls it welfare. But 1853 01:53:57.159 --> 01:54:01.239 it's aid to Israel, and Israel won't survive. Yeah, fuck Americans, 1854 01:54:01.319 --> 01:54:03.880 But fuck Americans who aren't going to survive unless they 1855 01:54:03.920 --> 01:54:05.720 have unless they're able to get a check. 1856 01:54:06.279 --> 01:54:08.239 You don't have a right to live where you were born. 1857 01:54:09.640 --> 01:54:15.520 That's you want to know why Nick Foynes is becoming huge. 1858 01:54:15.960 --> 01:54:20.159 That Yeah, that's it right there, because Nick is pointing 1859 01:54:20.199 --> 01:54:23.039 out that you know, oh I can't I can't live 1860 01:54:23.079 --> 01:54:26.960 where my ancestors were buried. But you don't even have it. 1861 01:54:27.039 --> 01:54:30.600 Your your ties are all to Russia, you know, and 1862 01:54:30.680 --> 01:54:33.920 yet you you know, yet you want us to send 1863 01:54:34.000 --> 01:54:37.039 money to this place that you went and conquered, you know, 1864 01:54:37.319 --> 01:54:38.199 a century ago. 1865 01:54:38.800 --> 01:54:42.680 It makes me think about a quote from you gentiles, 1866 01:54:43.119 --> 01:54:48.840 like we use will never be satisfied. It will never 1867 01:54:48.920 --> 01:54:52.640 be enough, no matter what you do for us, something something, 1868 01:54:52.880 --> 01:54:55.600 And then it ends with like where the destroyers of worlds? 1869 01:54:56.359 --> 01:54:58.600 The craziest part of that whole book is it's just 1870 01:54:58.720 --> 01:55:01.960 one long vetch because he didn't like the nineteen twenty 1871 01:55:02.000 --> 01:55:07.359 four Immigration Act. This literally what that old? He says 1872 01:55:07.359 --> 01:55:08.399 it at the end of the book. 1873 01:55:09.079 --> 01:55:14.079 Yeah. So, but like there is no this is kind 1874 01:55:14.079 --> 01:55:17.399 of a one way street. Historically has been a one 1875 01:55:17.399 --> 01:55:20.720 way street. So I don't know what that looks like. 1876 01:55:22.239 --> 01:55:25.119 Because America is a big place, but also this time, 1877 01:55:26.119 --> 01:55:30.039 because of you know, the digital environment that what's her name, 1878 01:55:30.159 --> 01:55:34.359 Sarah something or other that you were just quoting about, 1879 01:55:34.560 --> 01:55:40.479 it's global. So I mean, how does this how does 1880 01:55:40.520 --> 01:55:45.279 this end? Anybody? 1881 01:55:45.880 --> 01:55:46.239 Go ahead? 1882 01:55:46.319 --> 01:55:50.960 Darryl ah Man, I don't know. I you know, I mean, 1883 01:55:51.760 --> 01:55:55.119 I think that one of the uh, one of the 1884 01:55:55.119 --> 01:56:00.239 big benefits of global multipolarity coming back is that you 1885 01:56:00.359 --> 01:56:04.359 have powers that are rising that can actually exert themselves 1886 01:56:04.359 --> 01:56:07.279 on a global stage that are not beholden to this 1887 01:56:07.399 --> 01:56:11.359 power and it you know, and it also might be 1888 01:56:12.760 --> 01:56:17.000 this is maybe I guess I'm of a double mind 1889 01:56:17.039 --> 01:56:20.680 on this. But also, like you know, the demographic transformations 1890 01:56:20.680 --> 01:56:23.399 that are taking place in America are also something that 1891 01:56:24.159 --> 01:56:26.600 like you said, with New York City, you know, I know, 1892 01:56:26.800 --> 01:56:29.359 like the white liberals they're all voted for Mom, Donnie too. 1893 01:56:29.399 --> 01:56:31.359 But there's you know, there are a lot of people 1894 01:56:31.359 --> 01:56:33.880 there who who voted for him because they're just not 1895 01:56:34.000 --> 01:56:38.359 subject to the to the Zionist propaganda regime that the 1896 01:56:38.399 --> 01:56:40.479 rest of us have all been taken in by, you know, 1897 01:56:40.760 --> 01:56:44.159 since World War Two. And you know, so these changes 1898 01:56:44.199 --> 01:56:48.760 are taking place and they are losing power. You know, 1899 01:56:48.840 --> 01:56:54.920 the concern whenever you have you know, a very solipsistic 1900 01:56:55.039 --> 01:56:59.279 and arrogant ruling classes, we do that that that perceives 1901 01:57:00.279 --> 01:57:03.680 any loss of control on their part as like a 1902 01:57:03.760 --> 01:57:06.720 major emergency for everybody, for the whole world, that they 1903 01:57:06.760 --> 01:57:09.319 could you know, really blow things up rather than go 1904 01:57:09.399 --> 01:57:14.319 out peacefully. But you know, as far as yeah, far 1905 01:57:14.359 --> 01:57:15.600 as how it ends, I mean. 1906 01:57:16.760 --> 01:57:21.239 Well that was a plant Russia numbers, I mean generationally, 1907 01:57:21.520 --> 01:57:25.119 and you see the way I mean, you have to think. 1908 01:57:25.039 --> 01:57:26.560 Of it like this. And I'm coming from like a 1909 01:57:26.600 --> 01:57:29.840 perspective of somebody who like, they threw the entire kitchen 1910 01:57:29.880 --> 01:57:32.399 sink at me when I was on Tucker last year. 1911 01:57:32.520 --> 01:57:36.479 They threw everything they had, I mean, just the Republican 1912 01:57:36.800 --> 01:57:39.920 or rather the Congressional Jewish Caucus, the White House, the 1913 01:57:40.000 --> 01:57:42.279 major papers. I mean just they. 1914 01:57:42.119 --> 01:57:44.399 Threw the White House came after you. 1915 01:57:44.760 --> 01:57:48.039 Yeah, yeah, they issued they issued an official statement condemning 1916 01:57:48.039 --> 01:57:52.039 me by name, and like you know, it did absolutely nothing. 1917 01:57:52.119 --> 01:57:54.319 It did nothing to me, you know, and I'm just 1918 01:57:54.359 --> 01:57:56.640 an ordinary person. So when you look now at somebody 1919 01:57:56.720 --> 01:58:01.039 like Tucker, you know, there's a reason the terrified of Tucker, 1920 01:58:01.039 --> 01:58:03.840 and they should be, because he sees what's going on. 1921 01:58:04.000 --> 01:58:06.520 He knows what's going on. You know, he's very much 1922 01:58:06.640 --> 01:58:11.119 like a like a gen X Christian American who is 1923 01:58:11.239 --> 01:58:14.920 uncomfortable with you know, as he said in that Fuentes interview, 1924 01:58:15.039 --> 01:58:18.720 like many times, you know, with any kind of ascribing 1925 01:58:18.760 --> 01:58:20.880 of group guilt to people, all those things. He's very 1926 01:58:20.920 --> 01:58:23.720 averse to all of that. But in terms of these 1927 01:58:23.760 --> 01:58:26.479 people were talking about the specific people are who are 1928 01:58:26.479 --> 01:58:28.520 pulling the levers on these things, he knows who they are, 1929 01:58:28.560 --> 01:58:31.319 and he and they know that he knows who they are. 1930 01:58:31.960 --> 01:58:36.359 And he's a conduit, you know to just normy conservatives 1931 01:58:36.359 --> 01:58:38.920 who've never been able to hear this stuff before. And 1932 01:58:38.960 --> 01:58:41.359 if they have heard it, you know, it triggered one 1933 01:58:41.399 --> 01:58:44.960 of those deeply embedded emotional sort of you know trauma 1934 01:58:45.000 --> 01:58:48.359 triggers they got watching shitters lit in sixth grade at school, 1935 01:58:48.800 --> 01:58:51.399 you know, and so Tucker is similar to the way 1936 01:58:51.399 --> 01:58:53.840 that like, by the time you got up to twenty sixteen, 1937 01:58:54.600 --> 01:58:58.159 like most Republican voters were like, man, we are never 1938 01:58:58.199 --> 01:59:00.640 going to get this albatross of the era war and 1939 01:59:00.680 --> 01:59:03.880 everything off our fucking back or around from our neck. 1940 01:59:04.439 --> 01:59:06.960 And but we can't like just denounce it or whatever, 1941 01:59:07.039 --> 01:59:09.319 because then we're saying, oh, yeah, Nancy Pelosi was right 1942 01:59:09.359 --> 01:59:11.399 all along and blah blah blah, we can't do that. 1943 01:59:11.880 --> 01:59:14.960 But Trump came in and gave them permission to be like, no, 1944 01:59:15.119 --> 01:59:18.119 that was all bullshit. And Tucker is doing that for 1945 01:59:18.159 --> 01:59:21.199 a normy audience right now, and he understands, like, you know, 1946 01:59:21.239 --> 01:59:23.720 one of the things that he understands very well is 1947 01:59:23.760 --> 01:59:26.399 that all of us have a place in the ladder, 1948 01:59:26.680 --> 01:59:28.640 you know, and that normany start at the bottom. You 1949 01:59:28.720 --> 01:59:30.840 have to give them a low rung to grab onto, 1950 01:59:31.359 --> 01:59:32.960 and then you have to give them a second rung 1951 01:59:33.000 --> 01:59:34.880 to grab onto. There's a lot of people out there, 1952 01:59:35.680 --> 01:59:37.520 you know, a lot of the annon's on Twitter and 1953 01:59:37.560 --> 01:59:40.720 other places who they just they want anybody with any 1954 01:59:40.800 --> 01:59:44.319 kind of a public profile to prove their bona fides 1955 01:59:44.319 --> 01:59:47.079 by going out there and just you know, screaming the 1956 01:59:47.119 --> 01:59:49.960 most obsig, it's going to get them banned, like just 1957 01:59:50.000 --> 01:59:52.680 to show that they're really down for the cause or whatever. 1958 01:59:52.880 --> 01:59:55.760 I always tell these people, you don't understand how propaganda works, 1959 01:59:56.119 --> 01:59:59.920 you know. Somebody like Tucker understands that his job is 1960 02:00:00.079 --> 02:00:02.600 to point people to point Pete. His job is to 1961 02:00:02.640 --> 02:00:05.199 take people who are bored with Matt Walsh and send 1962 02:00:05.239 --> 02:00:07.640 him to me. My job is to take people who 1963 02:00:07.720 --> 02:00:10.319 get bored with me and send them to Pete. You know. 1964 02:00:10.760 --> 02:00:13.279 And when I hear I've told Pete this before, when 1965 02:00:13.279 --> 02:00:16.039 I hear people like or see people online being like, 1966 02:00:16.399 --> 02:00:18.720 you know, I used to listen to Darryl, but then 1967 02:00:18.760 --> 02:00:21.279 I realized he's just a cuck faggot who won't say 1968 02:00:21.319 --> 02:00:23.119 any of the real shit. So now I only listen 1969 02:00:23.199 --> 02:00:27.880 to Thomas. I'm like, yeah, another, and like, I don't 1970 02:00:27.920 --> 02:00:30.560 take that personally at all, because I'm comfortable with my place, 1971 02:00:30.600 --> 02:00:33.319 you know, on the ladder, and we need all of 1972 02:00:33.359 --> 02:00:35.760 those pieces. I was talking to Oran McIntyre about this 1973 02:00:35.800 --> 02:00:37.680 the other day. He came out and he said something 1974 02:00:37.720 --> 02:00:40.600 that was more strident than you're used to hearing from 1975 02:00:40.720 --> 02:00:43.680 oron from Oran about the people we're talking about. And 1976 02:00:43.720 --> 02:00:46.479 I didn't go in and you know, like concern troll 1977 02:00:46.520 --> 02:00:48.159 him or anything. But I got into his DMS and 1978 02:00:48.800 --> 02:00:51.199 because you know, we're pretty good buddies by this point, 1979 02:00:51.359 --> 02:00:54.159 and I was like, dude, just be careful. We need 1980 02:00:54.239 --> 02:00:58.159 you exactly where you are, Like you know, we don't 1981 02:00:58.239 --> 02:01:00.439 need you like coming over even further to our So 1982 02:01:00.640 --> 02:01:03.199 like all that is great, like do that internally, but 1983 02:01:03.319 --> 02:01:05.960 in terms of the propaganda process, we need you exactly 1984 02:01:05.960 --> 02:01:08.079 where you are. You know, you play a very important 1985 02:01:08.159 --> 02:01:11.000 role in this whole thing. So and he understands that, 1986 02:01:11.159 --> 02:01:15.239 and uh, you know, just all of us always have 1987 02:01:15.279 --> 02:01:17.279 to keep that in mind. You know, like this is 1988 02:01:17.279 --> 02:01:20.479 a process and you have to like normal people like look, 1989 02:01:20.520 --> 02:01:24.720 I I Americans are basically decent people. You know, like 1990 02:01:24.800 --> 02:01:27.560 foreigners who come over here, they all say the same thing, 1991 02:01:27.840 --> 02:01:29.880 like you know, you just they're they're always surprised by 1992 02:01:29.960 --> 02:01:32.319 just sort of how open Americans are. They'll just start 1993 02:01:32.359 --> 02:01:34.920 talking to you about their family and their whatever, like 1994 02:01:35.000 --> 02:01:38.199 the day you meet them kind of thing, and uh, 1995 02:01:38.880 --> 02:01:40.720 you know, they're kind. They're the kind of people who 1996 02:01:40.800 --> 02:01:45.159 you know, they don't they're not comfortable feeling like they're 1997 02:01:45.159 --> 02:01:48.640 doing something that like really goes that that that goes 1998 02:01:48.720 --> 02:01:51.920 against like a deeply held principle that they have. You know, 1999 02:01:51.960 --> 02:01:53.880 they don't want to be an immoral person. They don't 2000 02:01:53.920 --> 02:01:56.279 want to feel like they're being unjust to anybody or 2001 02:01:56.279 --> 02:01:59.239 any group. And none of this, you know, none of 2002 02:01:59.239 --> 02:02:02.159 the things that we're talking about are unjust to anybody 2003 02:02:02.239 --> 02:02:02.960 or any group. 2004 02:02:03.479 --> 02:02:03.640 You know. 2005 02:02:03.760 --> 02:02:08.640 It's just about you know, offering them, presenting these ideas 2006 02:02:08.640 --> 02:02:12.359 to them in a way that works around those triggers 2007 02:02:12.439 --> 02:02:14.439 you know that got embedded in them in fourth grade. 2008 02:02:15.520 --> 02:02:17.800 Hey, I want to bring something up to you real quick, Arrol, 2009 02:02:17.800 --> 02:02:19.720 because you mentioned Tucker and I've been thinking about this 2010 02:02:19.800 --> 02:02:23.479 a lot lately, especially since he had Fuentes on. Okay, 2011 02:02:23.760 --> 02:02:27.319 we've got several instances over the last century of these 2012 02:02:27.359 --> 02:02:31.960 witch hunts of you know, the Jewish lobby, the Jewish media. 2013 02:02:32.960 --> 02:02:35.359 I was gonna say Zionists, but some of these things 2014 02:02:35.399 --> 02:02:37.479 go back before Israel was a state, so we can't 2015 02:02:37.479 --> 02:02:40.680 really call it Zionist. Where they go after Charles Lindberg 2016 02:02:40.760 --> 02:02:43.680 and they completely like disappear him, they totally take him 2017 02:02:43.720 --> 02:02:46.359 down and he's no longer a factor. They go after 2018 02:02:46.399 --> 02:02:49.640 Sam Francis, they go after Pat Buchanan, and the neo 2019 02:02:49.720 --> 02:02:52.560 cons went ham on pap Buchanan, And if you go 2020 02:02:52.640 --> 02:02:55.680 back and read their you know, editorials that they wrote 2021 02:02:55.680 --> 02:02:58.720 for the National Review, et cetera, about Pat Buchanan, they 2022 02:02:58.720 --> 02:03:01.840 were saying the same things then as they're saying about 2023 02:03:01.880 --> 02:03:03.039 you know, anti Zionists. 2024 02:03:03.039 --> 02:03:04.960 Now it's like this, It's like they have a playbook. 2025 02:03:05.000 --> 02:03:07.319 And I mean, I've become convinced that they actually do 2026 02:03:07.399 --> 02:03:10.000 have a real, actual playbook that they all refer to, 2027 02:03:10.039 --> 02:03:12.319 because they all say the same things even twenty five 2028 02:03:12.399 --> 02:03:15.279 years later. Now they're trying to do that to Tucker. 2029 02:03:15.760 --> 02:03:18.399 And I don't really understand how Tucker's network works, but 2030 02:03:18.479 --> 02:03:21.239 as far as I know, it's completely independent. 2031 02:03:21.840 --> 02:03:23.520 So they're going after him. 2032 02:03:23.520 --> 02:03:25.039 They're trying to bring him down in the same way 2033 02:03:25.039 --> 02:03:27.880 they brought these they brought these other guys down. I 2034 02:03:27.880 --> 02:03:29.560 don't see how it can work. I don't see how 2035 02:03:29.560 --> 02:03:31.640 they can do it. He's not they're not cutting off 2036 02:03:31.640 --> 02:03:34.279 his funding. They're not kicking him out of the editorial 2037 02:03:34.319 --> 02:03:37.560 board of a national magazine. They can't fire him from 2038 02:03:37.600 --> 02:03:39.800 Fox News. They already did that. And look at him now, 2039 02:03:40.239 --> 02:03:43.159 I mean even on AXI he's huge, but he's on YouTube, 2040 02:03:43.199 --> 02:03:46.000 he's all over the internet, and even if they could 2041 02:03:46.000 --> 02:03:48.439 somehow get him off those platforms, which it looks like 2042 02:03:48.439 --> 02:03:50.920 they're not going to, he would still have the Tucker 2043 02:03:50.920 --> 02:03:51.720 Carlson Network. 2044 02:03:52.239 --> 02:03:54.560 So I think it's not gonna work this time. 2045 02:03:54.600 --> 02:03:59.000 I mean, I've be that their only way of getting 2046 02:03:59.079 --> 02:04:02.119 rid of him, and they do this to a lot 2047 02:04:02.159 --> 02:04:04.720 of our guys, And it's something I counsel against all 2048 02:04:04.760 --> 02:04:08.079 the time, like any time I can. I is they 2049 02:04:08.119 --> 02:04:10.479 know that the only way they can deal with him 2050 02:04:11.159 --> 02:04:14.840 is to provoke him into starting to say things that 2051 02:04:14.880 --> 02:04:18.079 are gonna make your sort of like nor me who's 2052 02:04:18.159 --> 02:04:20.399 just dipping their toe in sort of like pull back 2053 02:04:20.439 --> 02:04:22.199 and be like, oh, yeah, I don't know about this, 2054 02:04:22.319 --> 02:04:24.159 Like they know that that the whole point. 2055 02:04:24.279 --> 02:04:26.399 He said this in a few of his episodes. You 2056 02:04:26.439 --> 02:04:28.239 might have said it in his interview with me recently, 2057 02:04:29.479 --> 02:04:31.680 that their goal is to make you hate them and 2058 02:04:31.720 --> 02:04:35.319 then to act hateful, hatefully toward them, and to do 2059 02:04:35.399 --> 02:04:37.439 it in public in ways that people see that'll make 2060 02:04:37.479 --> 02:04:39.680 them withdraw from you. That's the goal, and you can't 2061 02:04:39.680 --> 02:04:41.439 give into that. You know, you have to be aware 2062 02:04:41.479 --> 02:04:42.720 that that's the game they're playing. 2063 02:04:44.279 --> 02:04:46.840 Yeah, and I'll say I'll say this, this is something 2064 02:04:46.880 --> 02:04:51.840 I think that's really important. If you're if you're consumed 2065 02:04:51.840 --> 02:04:56.199 by hate, you can't build anything. You're stuck in one place. 2066 02:04:56.680 --> 02:05:01.000 You can't move forward. That's why there's so many people, 2067 02:05:01.039 --> 02:05:04.600 so many of these ANNs are stuck on Twitter and 2068 02:05:04.680 --> 02:05:07.600 won't get off Twitter and build, build what comes next 2069 02:05:08.000 --> 02:05:11.359 because they're consumed by hate. Now, you have an adversary, 2070 02:05:11.600 --> 02:05:16.840 and you deal understand who your adversary is and structure 2071 02:05:16.840 --> 02:05:19.760 your life so that that adversary you can mitigate as 2072 02:05:19.840 --> 02:05:23.520 much of the negative consequences of that adversary as you can. 2073 02:05:24.239 --> 02:05:27.279 And that's it. You can't get consumed by hate. You 2074 02:05:27.359 --> 02:05:31.199 will end up saying stupid shit and then you know, yeah, 2075 02:05:31.239 --> 02:05:35.039 I've been anonymous on the internet. It's no fun. It's 2076 02:05:35.079 --> 02:05:39.279 no fun. You're just yeah, I mean, I may have. 2077 02:05:39.239 --> 02:05:41.960 Told you about this, Pete, but you know, I know. 2078 02:05:42.079 --> 02:05:47.000 Gu I'm friends with a guy who he's currently getting 2079 02:05:47.239 --> 02:05:53.159 protested processed out of the Navy. He was a commander five, 2080 02:05:55.399 --> 02:05:58.119 graduated second in his class at the academy. He's a 2081 02:05:58.199 --> 02:06:04.439 Navy doctor. He was a candidate for the astronaut program 2082 02:06:04.680 --> 02:06:08.199 and came up second among the candidates only the Johnny Kim, 2083 02:06:08.239 --> 02:06:10.680 which is a silver Star winning Navy seal that used 2084 02:06:10.680 --> 02:06:12.920 to work for Jocko and Ramadi who now is a 2085 02:06:12.960 --> 02:06:17.039 Harvard educated doctor, and he's just a freaking super candidate, right, 2086 02:06:17.319 --> 02:06:19.479 this guy came in second to him. This buddy of 2087 02:06:19.479 --> 02:06:22.039 mine was on track to be an admiral. I mean, 2088 02:06:22.079 --> 02:06:24.119 he was gonna be one of our guys like up 2089 02:06:24.159 --> 02:06:27.439 at the flag level in the Navy. And he started 2090 02:06:27.520 --> 02:06:32.039 listening to you know, TRS podcast. He starts go, it 2091 02:06:32.119 --> 02:06:35.399 is a super smart guy obviously, starts listening to a 2092 02:06:35.439 --> 02:06:38.560 lot of these just you know, sort of more uncontrolled 2093 02:06:39.119 --> 02:06:41.640 kinds of content that we have out there on our side, 2094 02:06:42.279 --> 02:06:44.319 and he just did the he did the thing that 2095 02:06:44.359 --> 02:06:46.279 we have seen happen to so many people where you 2096 02:06:46.359 --> 02:06:49.239 like literally couldn't bring him into mixed company anymore, because 2097 02:06:49.279 --> 02:06:52.079 ten minutes into any conversation with your grandmother, he's going 2098 02:06:52.159 --> 02:06:54.720 to start talking about the Jews or something. And it 2099 02:06:54.800 --> 02:06:56.560 got to the and it got to that point where 2100 02:06:56.600 --> 02:06:58.720 he couldn't keep his fucking mouth shut in front of 2101 02:06:58.720 --> 02:07:01.199 his boss, in front of an admiral. And now he's 2102 02:07:01.199 --> 02:07:04.760 getting processed out of the Navy, and you know he's forgetting, 2103 02:07:04.760 --> 02:07:06.560 I mean forget about like just having a guy in 2104 02:07:06.600 --> 02:07:08.960 his position who understands where we're coming from. It's a 2105 02:07:08.960 --> 02:07:11.119 guy with a wife and kid, and now you know 2106 02:07:11.239 --> 02:07:14.239 he's going to be in a in a very just difficult, 2107 02:07:14.279 --> 02:07:16.960 difficult situation, you know, coming out of the Navy on 2108 02:07:17.000 --> 02:07:20.520 a on like other than honorable kind of circumstances, and 2109 02:07:20.600 --> 02:07:22.600 so like, those are the kind of things we really 2110 02:07:22.640 --> 02:07:24.840 have to avoid just on a personal level, but also 2111 02:07:25.000 --> 02:07:27.199 just because it takes you out of the game when 2112 02:07:27.199 --> 02:07:31.199 you do that, you know, and and it just makes 2113 02:07:31.239 --> 02:07:34.600 you so predictable and so reactive, so easily provoked by 2114 02:07:34.640 --> 02:07:37.159 the enemy. You know, they know somebody who is full 2115 02:07:37.159 --> 02:07:39.680 of anger, full of rage and hate. They know exactly 2116 02:07:39.760 --> 02:07:42.039 what to say to get you to freak out, just 2117 02:07:42.079 --> 02:07:43.960 the same way that you know. I made this point 2118 02:07:44.000 --> 02:07:48.079 to h to Scott the other day on our Provoked podcast, 2119 02:07:48.279 --> 02:07:50.920 Scott Horton. When I was trying to I was just 2120 02:07:51.000 --> 02:07:54.319 mounting a defense of of the groupers to a degree 2121 02:07:55.840 --> 02:07:58.000 where you know, I was trying to explain to him 2122 02:07:58.039 --> 02:08:02.399 that like for years, these guys have been in an 2123 02:08:02.439 --> 02:08:07.439 extremely asymmetric war right where the people that they're combating 2124 02:08:08.319 --> 02:08:11.640 can destroy their lives. They out them, they get them fired, 2125 02:08:11.680 --> 02:08:14.960 from their job. They put them on massive websites like 2126 02:08:15.079 --> 02:08:18.039 SPLC and ADL, the hate Watch. You know, that just 2127 02:08:18.159 --> 02:08:20.560 is there permanently, and this is the first they make sure. 2128 02:08:20.560 --> 02:08:22.479 It's the first thing that comes up if you google 2129 02:08:22.520 --> 02:08:25.760 their name when they're trying to rent a house or 2130 02:08:25.800 --> 02:08:28.039 get a job or something like that. These are all 2131 02:08:28.079 --> 02:08:30.600 the tools. They're canceling, their bank accounts, their credit cards. 2132 02:08:30.640 --> 02:08:32.920 These are the tools that their enemies had to use 2133 02:08:32.960 --> 02:08:36.760 against them. And what did they have at their disposal? 2134 02:08:36.840 --> 02:08:39.640 What weapons did they have? Well, they know that they 2135 02:08:39.680 --> 02:08:42.079 can say a few things. If you make a comment 2136 02:08:42.159 --> 02:08:44.479 to you that is going to trigger you and pull 2137 02:08:44.560 --> 02:08:46.479 you down to their level and make you look like 2138 02:08:46.520 --> 02:08:49.039 an asshole. And so that's what they do. You know, 2139 02:08:49.159 --> 02:08:52.119 you can destroy them by getting them fired from their 2140 02:08:52.199 --> 02:08:55.159 job and putting them on the hate watch website. They 2141 02:08:55.159 --> 02:08:58.079 can call you a racial slur, a jew, whatever, and 2142 02:08:58.239 --> 02:09:01.119 watch you freak out and knack like a more on online. 2143 02:09:01.560 --> 02:09:03.680 And that's the weapon that they had to fight back with, 2144 02:09:03.800 --> 02:09:05.920 you know, And you could you could say whatever you 2145 02:09:05.960 --> 02:09:09.159 want about that, but that's what was going on. And so, uh, 2146 02:09:09.199 --> 02:09:11.199 you know, I totally understand where a lot of that 2147 02:09:11.239 --> 02:09:13.760 comes from, but at a time now where we're really like, 2148 02:09:13.920 --> 02:09:15.520 we've got a lot of momentum behind us, and I 2149 02:09:15.560 --> 02:09:17.720 don't want to overplay that too much. We've still got 2150 02:09:17.760 --> 02:09:21.039 a long, long hill to climb, a lot of obstacles 2151 02:09:21.039 --> 02:09:24.079 to overcome. Uh, but you know, we're we're at a 2152 02:09:24.159 --> 02:09:27.800 place now where they can no longer they can no 2153 02:09:27.880 --> 02:09:31.000 longer fight us on those asymmetric terms so much. You know, 2154 02:09:31.079 --> 02:09:33.119 they have to actually meet us in the field. And 2155 02:09:33.159 --> 02:09:35.399 you see how that's going for him. It's not going well. 2156 02:09:35.840 --> 02:09:38.920 And so you know, being in a in a more 2157 02:09:39.279 --> 02:09:42.520 in more even combat like that, it requires different tactics, 2158 02:09:42.840 --> 02:09:46.000 you know, and and and people just have to keep 2159 02:09:46.039 --> 02:09:46.600 that in mind. 2160 02:09:48.039 --> 02:09:50.319 All right, I got to cut out. I want to 2161 02:09:50.319 --> 02:09:54.399 thank Darryl for joining us. Awesome, thank you, and I'll 2162 02:09:54.439 --> 02:09:57.399 be in touch soon. And I got to go record. 2163 02:09:57.960 --> 02:10:00.520 I got to go record episode eighty eight, two hundred 2164 02:10:00.560 --> 02:10:01.119 years together. 2165 02:10:01.720 --> 02:10:02.359 Amazing. 2166 02:10:03.439 --> 02:10:05.439 Thank you, Darryl. Appreciate you. 2167 02:10:06.000 --> 02:10:07.319 Take care, guys, make it easy. 2168 02:10:07.399 --> 02:10:09.239 Yeah, I think that might be so. 2169 02:10:09.239 --> 02:10:10.560 I can go on for another forty five. 2170 02:10:11.199 --> 02:10:12.800 Yeah, I think I might have to cut it off 2171 02:10:12.840 --> 02:10:14.600 to Daryl, Are you good on time? 2172 02:10:16.239 --> 02:10:18.479 No, not really, I've actually got to get going here soon, 2173 02:10:18.600 --> 02:10:20.279 So I'm gonna do a few more minutes if there's 2174 02:10:20.279 --> 02:10:21.840 something you want to talk about, but I gotta get going. 2175 02:10:22.319 --> 02:10:26.960 There is one thing. I think, it's about American identity 2176 02:10:27.039 --> 02:10:32.159 going forward, because the biggest problem that we have both rhetorically, 2177 02:10:32.520 --> 02:10:35.439 you can see it in guys like Vance, guys like Tucker, 2178 02:10:36.720 --> 02:10:41.760 is when they are interacting with comments like the kind 2179 02:10:41.800 --> 02:10:47.720 that Mark Livin and Ben Shapiro are nice enough to 2180 02:10:47.720 --> 02:10:53.840 give us all the time about advocating about Jews, advocating 2181 02:10:53.880 --> 02:10:58.239 for Jews, why it's necessary, and why advocating for Israel 2182 02:10:59.239 --> 02:11:03.039 is really the only logical, you know, position for someone 2183 02:11:03.319 --> 02:11:08.039 of their ethno religious persuasion. But when guys like Tucker 2184 02:11:08.079 --> 02:11:12.680 will point out like why it's wrong and why x 2185 02:11:12.800 --> 02:11:16.760 y Z policy that the administration is doing is wrong, 2186 02:11:18.079 --> 02:11:22.920 and why America you know, why x y Z is 2187 02:11:23.000 --> 02:11:26.119 bad and you know, bad for America, that they can't 2188 02:11:26.479 --> 02:11:29.319 when they say like, oh, well, these things are we 2189 02:11:29.399 --> 02:11:33.199 need to do these things for Americans, they seem to 2190 02:11:33.239 --> 02:11:37.359 struggle with the ability of pointing out who that is right. 2191 02:11:37.399 --> 02:11:40.000 So if I go to like China and I ask 2192 02:11:40.079 --> 02:11:44.000 a Chinese man, what is an American? What does he 2193 02:11:44.039 --> 02:11:47.039 look like? The Chinese man will tell me same thing. 2194 02:11:47.079 --> 02:11:49.039 If I go to India, i go to Africa, they'll 2195 02:11:49.319 --> 02:11:52.520 tell me what an African or the African will tell 2196 02:11:52.560 --> 02:11:56.279 me what an American is. And no one in our 2197 02:11:56.319 --> 02:12:01.800 political apparatus, you know, on our side, is able to 2198 02:12:02.119 --> 02:12:05.159 tell me what an American is. So when they say 2199 02:12:05.239 --> 02:12:07.319 they want to do all of these things for the 2200 02:12:07.319 --> 02:12:11.520 benefit of Americans, they seem to be enable to attach 2201 02:12:11.640 --> 02:12:17.079 that to even an idea of a people group because 2202 02:12:17.079 --> 02:12:19.239 you say, like, well, who is an American? Well, everyone's 2203 02:12:19.279 --> 02:12:22.439 an American. And I think this is probably one of 2204 02:12:22.439 --> 02:12:27.039 the biggest shackles holding back both the direction of the 2205 02:12:27.079 --> 02:12:30.199 directing of policy but also the directing of the rhetorical 2206 02:12:30.239 --> 02:12:32.840 fight we're in. So I'd love to hear your take 2207 02:12:32.920 --> 02:12:35.840 on what that would look like. Yeah, what is an 2208 02:12:35.840 --> 02:12:36.840 American identity? 2209 02:12:37.399 --> 02:12:40.239 Yeah, it's an incredible I mean, I'll say, first of all, 2210 02:12:40.279 --> 02:12:42.039 I think we're still kind of in the process of 2211 02:12:42.079 --> 02:12:47.119 that ethnogenesis, so like you, but it's it's really like 2212 02:12:47.159 --> 02:12:49.239 the question of questions for us at this point, and 2213 02:12:49.279 --> 02:12:51.920 people who are from even just a generation a little 2214 02:12:51.960 --> 02:12:55.000 bit behind us, I think have a lot more difficulty 2215 02:12:56.079 --> 02:12:58.880 with it than we do. It certainly than people who 2216 02:12:58.920 --> 02:13:01.239 are younger than us, do you know. I mean, if 2217 02:13:01.279 --> 02:13:03.960 you think about it, like for somebody like Tucker, I mean, 2218 02:13:04.000 --> 02:13:07.920 it's partly moral ethical, but it's also just partly pragmatic. 2219 02:13:07.960 --> 02:13:10.560 And I understand this part of it like very well 2220 02:13:11.000 --> 02:13:13.000 that he looks at the situation and says, look, man, 2221 02:13:13.000 --> 02:13:16.920 if we start talking just about race, like if you 2222 02:13:16.960 --> 02:13:20.560 look at the like the the the the trajectory of demographics, 2223 02:13:20.600 --> 02:13:23.159 if we go into that kind of a you know, 2224 02:13:23.199 --> 02:13:25.840 just say again like fortress mentality, where we just withdraw 2225 02:13:25.960 --> 02:13:30.640 into like racial identity purely, like purely, that we're gonna 2226 02:13:30.680 --> 02:13:33.800 end up in a country that, uh, you know where 2227 02:13:33.840 --> 02:13:38.439 where the majority populations are allied against us, and that 2228 02:13:38.520 --> 02:13:42.920 we can't really provide any kind of leadership for now. 2229 02:13:44.359 --> 02:13:47.079 And and I'm sympathetic to that, to that, to that 2230 02:13:47.319 --> 02:13:49.359 idea for sure, because it is I mean, we do 2231 02:13:49.439 --> 02:13:51.960 have to deal with the world as we find it 2232 02:13:52.039 --> 02:13:55.279 right now, and we also have to you know, I mean, 2233 02:13:55.319 --> 02:13:57.760 look like I've I've brought this up before, I think 2234 02:13:57.800 --> 02:13:59.960 in a in an article for I don't remember who, 2235 02:14:00.119 --> 02:14:04.960 but you know, Thomas talked about how this ideal of 2236 02:14:05.039 --> 02:14:08.680 like the white American Obviously, you go back to the 2237 02:14:08.800 --> 02:14:11.680 very beginning, and people knew that African slaves had darker 2238 02:14:11.680 --> 02:14:13.359 skin than them, and they were black, and they were 2239 02:14:13.359 --> 02:14:15.520 white like. People understood that on some level, but in 2240 02:14:15.640 --> 02:14:19.000 terms of like the operative elements of their identity outside 2241 02:14:19.039 --> 02:14:21.720 the South, like people were Catholic or Protestant, they were 2242 02:14:21.760 --> 02:14:25.680 Irish or Italian or Jewish or Anglo, and the idea 2243 02:14:25.680 --> 02:14:29.439 of you know, just us being white people was again 2244 02:14:29.479 --> 02:14:31.560 they were aware of it, but it wasn't it wasn't 2245 02:14:31.560 --> 02:14:33.560 the operative part of their identity because it would have 2246 02:14:33.600 --> 02:14:37.560 been like going to Norway back in nineteen fifty and 2247 02:14:37.840 --> 02:14:40.520 making a big you know, I'm a Norwegian kind of thing. 2248 02:14:40.560 --> 02:14:42.640 It was just everybody was Norwegian. There's no reason to 2249 02:14:42.680 --> 02:14:44.920 even have it enter into your consciousness. For the most part, 2250 02:14:45.239 --> 02:14:48.119 the things that the differentiations that actually made a difference 2251 02:14:48.159 --> 02:14:51.279 to them were things that applied in their local community, 2252 02:14:51.279 --> 02:14:55.800 you know, Irish, Catholic, Italian, Catholic, Jewish, whatever. And you know, 2253 02:14:55.800 --> 02:14:58.199 it was only with the great migration of the blacks 2254 02:14:58.199 --> 02:14:59.800 out of the South, but you had all of these 2255 02:15:00.000 --> 02:15:02.960 dipate white groups who were confronted with this, with this 2256 02:15:03.079 --> 02:15:06.960 alien force that was really wreaking havoc on their neighborhoods 2257 02:15:07.000 --> 02:15:11.399 and in their lives, their community lives. And then after 2258 02:15:11.399 --> 02:15:14.000 they got drove out, driven out into the suburbs where 2259 02:15:14.119 --> 02:15:17.039 you're an Italian guy who has an Irish neighbor and 2260 02:15:17.119 --> 02:15:21.479 a Jewish neighbor, and you know, there's the old Italian 2261 02:15:21.520 --> 02:15:24.279 Catholic church is forty five minutes across town, and only 2262 02:15:24.359 --> 02:15:26.479 old ladies who still live in the neighborhood go there, 2263 02:15:26.520 --> 02:15:29.199 and you don't go there anymore. Like that, you had 2264 02:15:29.199 --> 02:15:31.439 that sort of like all of those people begin to 2265 02:15:31.520 --> 02:15:34.920 melt into a white population. But that's something that's like 2266 02:15:35.039 --> 02:15:37.800 pretty recent, you know, in terms of having that as 2267 02:15:37.840 --> 02:15:39.880 an operative part of any identity. And we have, like 2268 02:15:39.920 --> 02:15:43.640 anybody above the age of about forty went through at 2269 02:15:43.720 --> 02:15:47.520 least twelve years of indoctrination in school, an entire lifetime 2270 02:15:47.520 --> 02:15:51.000 of indoctrination by the media telling them that anytime that 2271 02:15:51.199 --> 02:15:54.680 part of their identity starts to assert itself, they need 2272 02:15:54.680 --> 02:15:56.760 to put themselves in check because not only is it 2273 02:15:56.800 --> 02:15:59.359 immoral danger, it's going to be personally dangerous for you 2274 02:15:59.399 --> 02:16:01.720 if that gets if that gets to be too much 2275 02:16:01.760 --> 02:16:04.439 of what you're thinking about. And so you know, it's 2276 02:16:04.520 --> 02:16:07.560 very hard for people a little older than us to 2277 02:16:07.640 --> 02:16:11.760 really to overcome that and figure out a way too, 2278 02:16:12.840 --> 02:16:16.239 you know, preserve that element of racial identity which is 2279 02:16:16.279 --> 02:16:18.439 going to become. It's just it's going to be important 2280 02:16:18.560 --> 02:16:21.159 going forward, and you know, in the world and in 2281 02:16:21.199 --> 02:16:26.399 the United States, but also being willing to branch out 2282 02:16:26.560 --> 02:16:29.680 and have relationships, have a sort of you know, maybe 2283 02:16:29.720 --> 02:16:31.479 even like a you could say, like a like a 2284 02:16:32.040 --> 02:16:34.920 not geographically demarketed in the same way, but the way 2285 02:16:35.000 --> 02:16:37.879 Switzerland has like an ethnic federation in a way you know, 2286 02:16:37.920 --> 02:16:41.760 where you have these different groups, different people, and you know, 2287 02:16:41.799 --> 02:16:46.159 the any in the in the people who are you know, 2288 02:16:46.440 --> 02:16:50.760 who are willing and and and desiring to be part 2289 02:16:50.760 --> 02:16:55.399 of the project you know of America. We can work 2290 02:16:55.440 --> 02:16:57.520 with them, We can provide leadership to them, We can 2291 02:16:57.559 --> 02:16:59.879 work with their leaders and give them their respect that 2292 02:17:00.239 --> 02:17:02.440 do you know, as people who are here and who 2293 02:17:02.479 --> 02:17:03.920 want to be a part of the project and who 2294 02:17:03.920 --> 02:17:07.639 contribute to it, give them a respect without necessarily having 2295 02:17:07.680 --> 02:17:11.799 to just melt together into like some new hemispheric race 2296 02:17:11.920 --> 02:17:13.520 or something, which I just don't think is going to 2297 02:17:13.600 --> 02:17:17.879 happen regardless. I mean, and you know, so I mean 2298 02:17:17.920 --> 02:17:20.440 if you think about it, like that period after the 2299 02:17:20.479 --> 02:17:25.680 Second World War up to about maybe the JFK assassination 2300 02:17:25.879 --> 02:17:28.840 or so, like that was probably the closest we came 2301 02:17:29.840 --> 02:17:32.920 to having like a real American ethnogenesis on like a 2302 02:17:33.040 --> 02:17:35.680 national level where you had like a people who really 2303 02:17:35.719 --> 02:17:39.639 felt like, you know, there was something just meaningfully American 2304 02:17:39.760 --> 02:17:42.479 things that they were, you know, that that everybody was 2305 02:17:42.559 --> 02:17:44.399 proud of, even if it was based on a lot 2306 02:17:44.399 --> 02:17:46.479 of propaganda in the World wars and things like that, 2307 02:17:46.559 --> 02:17:49.120 but that that really brought them together and united them 2308 02:17:49.120 --> 02:17:51.680 as a people. You know, I think about how you know, 2309 02:17:51.959 --> 02:17:55.559 the city of the town of Vicksburgh never celebrated the 2310 02:17:55.559 --> 02:17:58.079 fourth of July after it was conquered during the Civil 2311 02:17:58.120 --> 02:18:01.879 War until July forth nineteen forty four, after the D 2312 02:18:02.000 --> 02:18:05.000 Day landing, and it was just you know, again propaganda 2313 02:18:05.079 --> 02:18:09.280 or not like we had had by nineteen forty four, 2314 02:18:09.399 --> 02:18:12.840 twenty years or really like thirty years because immigration kind 2315 02:18:12.840 --> 02:18:15.319 of you know, really came to a trickle when the 2316 02:18:15.319 --> 02:18:17.840 First World War broke out. It wasn't just in nineteen 2317 02:18:17.879 --> 02:18:20.399 twenty four, and so they had thirty years at that point, 2318 02:18:20.399 --> 02:18:22.920 the entire generation had been able to grow up into 2319 02:18:23.040 --> 02:18:26.600 working age adults who were all born in America. We 2320 02:18:26.639 --> 02:18:29.000 hadn't didn't have like a new generation. Is the first 2321 02:18:29.040 --> 02:18:31.559 time it's really happened in American history. You know, you 2322 02:18:31.639 --> 02:18:35.159 have seventeen seventy six and basically within a generation you've 2323 02:18:35.159 --> 02:18:38.399 got Germans and Irish flooding. In a generation later it's 2324 02:18:38.440 --> 02:18:41.200 Italians and Jews and others from Eastern and southern Europe. 2325 02:18:41.639 --> 02:18:46.479 But then after that petered out with the First World War, 2326 02:18:48.280 --> 02:18:51.159 that kind of the overseas immigration kind of came to 2327 02:18:51.200 --> 02:18:52.680 an end, and by the time you get up to 2328 02:18:52.719 --> 02:18:54.799 the end of the Second World War really been almost 2329 02:18:54.799 --> 02:18:57.760 thirty years. But of course by that point is you know, 2330 02:18:57.799 --> 02:19:01.760 we replaced that, We replaced that with the great migration 2331 02:19:01.799 --> 02:19:03.719 of blacks out of the South, and so that really 2332 02:19:03.760 --> 02:19:07.360 did like contribute to an ethnogenesis among American whites during 2333 02:19:07.360 --> 02:19:11.559 that period. And you know, you wonder what might have 2334 02:19:11.680 --> 02:19:15.000 happened if, you know, if we hadn't passed heart Seller 2335 02:19:15.000 --> 02:19:17.920 in nineteen sixty five and we had figured out a 2336 02:19:17.959 --> 02:19:21.920 way to integrate, you know, blacks into the country in 2337 02:19:21.959 --> 02:19:24.280 a way that you know, didn't place them in such 2338 02:19:24.520 --> 02:19:27.239 a hostile relationship to it. For the most part, and like, 2339 02:19:27.840 --> 02:19:29.840 you know, you wonder, but again, like this is the 2340 02:19:29.840 --> 02:19:32.760 world that that we got to live with now, and 2341 02:19:32.799 --> 02:19:35.479 it's much much more difficult, you know, Like Anglos had 2342 02:19:35.479 --> 02:19:40.000 to renegotiate American identity with Germans and Irish, not easy 2343 02:19:40.120 --> 02:19:41.840 given the time, you know, I mean, they were very 2344 02:19:41.840 --> 02:19:45.520 different and often hostile peoples. You had to do it 2345 02:19:45.520 --> 02:19:48.760 again with the Italians and Jews and others in the 2346 02:19:48.799 --> 02:19:52.239 late nineteenth early twentieth century. But still, you know, this 2347 02:19:52.399 --> 02:19:56.319 was something that, compared to what we're facing now, was 2348 02:19:57.120 --> 02:20:01.000 pretty doable. Now when we're dealing with people who are 2349 02:20:01.600 --> 02:20:05.159 you know, not just a different denomination of Christianity or 2350 02:20:05.200 --> 02:20:07.120 even you know, in the case of the Jews, like 2351 02:20:07.440 --> 02:20:09.680 people who are sort of part of the Biblical tradition 2352 02:20:09.799 --> 02:20:13.520 or something. We're just dealing with a huge assortment of 2353 02:20:13.680 --> 02:20:16.760 radically different culturally, racially. 2354 02:20:17.399 --> 02:20:17.840 You know all. 2355 02:20:18.440 --> 02:20:21.879 And we're doing it in at a time when you know, 2356 02:20:21.959 --> 02:20:26.000 that old Anglo leadership superstructure that had always guided this 2357 02:20:26.120 --> 02:20:31.200 country is no longer in place, and we have just 2358 02:20:31.239 --> 02:20:35.479 this sort of this this over built bureaucratic system that 2359 02:20:36.280 --> 02:20:40.520 has replaced any meaningful, coherent leadership class that is open 2360 02:20:40.760 --> 02:20:43.360 for anybody who kind of knows how to Any organized 2361 02:20:43.360 --> 02:20:45.520 minority who knows how to work the controls can take 2362 02:20:45.559 --> 02:20:47.799 control of the ship and drive it for their own purposes, 2363 02:20:47.840 --> 02:20:51.079 you know. And so these are very difficult circumstances that 2364 02:20:51.200 --> 02:20:53.040 like we didn't have to deal with when we were 2365 02:20:53.079 --> 02:20:55.399 trying to rein when we were trying to integrate the 2366 02:20:55.440 --> 02:20:59.479 European immigrants. Over the years, figuring out how to do 2367 02:20:59.559 --> 02:21:02.239 it again, and I just think that we have to 2368 02:21:02.239 --> 02:21:06.040 be able to reach out and uh and create relationships 2369 02:21:06.079 --> 02:21:08.719 with the civilized minorities that are out there. You know, 2370 02:21:08.760 --> 02:21:12.559 We're just we're not going to accomplish it without their cooperation, 2371 02:21:12.760 --> 02:21:14.920 without their help. And I think that you know, they, 2372 02:21:15.040 --> 02:21:17.959 like I said earlier, you know, you ask like you 2373 02:21:18.040 --> 02:21:20.840 talk to a lot of latinas, you talk to like 2374 02:21:21.399 --> 02:21:23.959 Arab women, you talk to a lot of minority women, 2375 02:21:23.959 --> 02:21:25.799 and it's seen as like a status symbol to be 2376 02:21:25.879 --> 02:21:27.959 with a white guy. It still is to this day. 2377 02:21:29.280 --> 02:21:31.280 There are a lot of these people, these groups that 2378 02:21:31.280 --> 02:21:34.760 would be perfectly willing to to to to accept the 2379 02:21:34.879 --> 02:21:38.440 leadership of heritage Americans in this project of you know, 2380 02:21:38.520 --> 02:21:42.159 sort of civilizing the rest of the country and dealing 2381 02:21:42.239 --> 02:21:44.440 with the people that can't be civilized, but we do 2382 02:21:44.520 --> 02:21:47.479 need their help and cooperation. I very much believe that. 2383 02:21:48.319 --> 02:21:51.879 I think I think that that goes out saying just 2384 02:21:51.879 --> 02:21:54.840 because they're simply even to get the ball rolling, you're 2385 02:21:54.879 --> 02:21:58.479 going to need their cooperation. The thing that worries me, though, 2386 02:21:58.879 --> 02:22:02.280 is because of the people above fifty or above forty 2387 02:22:02.319 --> 02:22:06.920 to your point, or inable to articulate in or really 2388 02:22:07.239 --> 02:22:10.680 cognize it, because not only do they not allow themselves 2389 02:22:10.680 --> 02:22:13.000 to say it, they quickly not allow themselves to think it. 2390 02:22:16.639 --> 02:22:24.120 Eighty percent of the tax dollars that fund the government 2391 02:22:25.040 --> 02:22:27.719 are paid by people that look like you and me. 2392 02:22:29.040 --> 02:22:32.840 So I don't think this will happen now, but eventually 2393 02:22:32.879 --> 02:22:37.319 it will. The people that pay for the government, I think, 2394 02:22:37.360 --> 02:22:40.360 will only allow the government to work against their own 2395 02:22:41.600 --> 02:22:46.920 particular and broad self interest, which none of the organized 2396 02:22:46.959 --> 02:22:50.600 minorities seem to really give a shit about. It's kind 2397 02:22:50.600 --> 02:22:53.280 of that like like you said earlier about like you know, 2398 02:22:53.399 --> 02:22:57.840 taking the silverware, and you know, even the doorknobs off 2399 02:22:58.120 --> 02:23:01.719 of a sinking ship don't really particularly care one way 2400 02:23:01.799 --> 02:23:05.639 or the other. But the people that our politicians are 2401 02:23:05.719 --> 02:23:11.520 unable to articulate existing are the only people that fund 2402 02:23:11.559 --> 02:23:16.040 the government. So you have this type of Mexican standoff 2403 02:23:16.600 --> 02:23:19.399 where one party doesn't realize that they have a gun. 2404 02:23:21.440 --> 02:23:24.600 If any moment in time these people decided to say, 2405 02:23:24.680 --> 02:23:28.079 stop paying for a government that didn't service them, it 2406 02:23:28.120 --> 02:23:32.600 would collapse literally overnight. I mean, the treasury bonds that 2407 02:23:32.879 --> 02:23:38.280 underpin the global financial system are basically promisory notes on 2408 02:23:38.399 --> 02:23:42.879 the future contributions of that class of people. So I mean, 2409 02:23:46.799 --> 02:23:50.120 it could get really shitty if it goes that way. 2410 02:23:50.319 --> 02:23:51.760 And I mean the only way it would probably go 2411 02:23:51.799 --> 02:23:56.319 that way is if the administration lost the midterms and 2412 02:23:56.360 --> 02:23:58.840 then lost the election, which I think is a very 2413 02:23:59.079 --> 02:24:03.760 real risk because of their inability to articulate the people 2414 02:24:03.760 --> 02:24:08.600 that vote for them. Right, Black males don't vote, Black 2415 02:24:08.719 --> 02:24:12.479 females vote almost entirely left. It doesn't really matter how 2416 02:24:12.520 --> 02:24:14.559 many of them you went over. There not a large 2417 02:24:14.559 --> 02:24:19.319 demographic Hispanics. I think, to your point is a coalition 2418 02:24:19.959 --> 02:24:25.159 that that you can build the type of commonality at 2419 02:24:25.239 --> 02:24:28.680 least enough for everyone to vote the same way. But 2420 02:24:28.799 --> 02:24:33.239 I think this inability to recognize that our voters are 2421 02:24:33.719 --> 02:24:37.239 almost entirely white people at this stage in the game, 2422 02:24:37.879 --> 02:24:42.760 and particularly because of the acceleration in rhetoric that guys 2423 02:24:42.799 --> 02:24:46.680 like Shapiro and guys like Mark Levin are doing in 2424 02:24:47.079 --> 02:24:54.040 a negative sense, it's actually the Jews that are accelerating this, 2425 02:24:54.040 --> 02:24:58.479 this group of people finally, as the leftoid say, getting 2426 02:24:58.559 --> 02:25:02.680 racial consciousness. So I think, like, I mean, look what 2427 02:25:02.680 --> 02:25:08.159 happened in Virginia and look what's about to happen in Florida. Right, Like, 2428 02:25:08.200 --> 02:25:16.520 the leadership of the ostensible conservative parties are adverse of 2429 02:25:16.600 --> 02:25:21.319 either a articulating who they actually serve who votes for them, 2430 02:25:21.840 --> 02:25:26.440 and be running candidates that represent those people. And I 2431 02:25:26.479 --> 02:25:28.479 think unless this has figured out in the short term, 2432 02:25:28.479 --> 02:25:32.000 I think it's enough to lose the midterms, especially with 2433 02:25:32.120 --> 02:25:35.520 like the repetitive comments out of the administration about how 2434 02:25:35.600 --> 02:25:38.680 much we need H one b's or whatever. I don't 2435 02:25:38.680 --> 02:25:40.879 think they're aware of how much ground they're losing between 2436 02:25:40.920 --> 02:25:43.000 the only voter base that actually votes for them. 2437 02:25:43.879 --> 02:25:47.639 Yeah, that's the real importance and significance of Trump and 2438 02:25:47.719 --> 02:25:50.079 why it's important I tell this to people who you know, 2439 02:25:50.799 --> 02:25:53.440 even are very suspicious of jd. Vance because of his 2440 02:25:53.639 --> 02:25:57.760 tel ties or whatever. That forget about the man himself 2441 02:25:57.799 --> 02:26:01.120 and whether you trust him. Like, the significance of these 2442 02:26:01.200 --> 02:26:05.719 people is providing us with enough time, enough cover, for 2443 02:26:06.200 --> 02:26:09.479 enough time to talk to each other and organize with 2444 02:26:09.600 --> 02:26:13.200 each other without having the FBI sicked on us. Like 2445 02:26:13.239 --> 02:26:15.360 that's their certificate and that's really all we need from 2446 02:26:15.399 --> 02:26:17.520 them at this point. You know, you're not going to 2447 02:26:17.559 --> 02:26:21.239 take somebody. I think Tucker is fifty six people guys 2448 02:26:21.239 --> 02:26:23.520 who were fifty six, Like, they don't they don't have 2449 02:26:23.639 --> 02:26:27.399 like revolutionary changes in their moral compass or any of 2450 02:26:27.440 --> 02:26:31.959 those kind of things, you know, like scientific paradigms at 2451 02:26:32.000 --> 02:26:35.760 what's an old quote like that, nobody changes their minds. 2452 02:26:35.799 --> 02:26:38.120 Like the people who believe one thing just retire and 2453 02:26:38.159 --> 02:26:40.520 die off, and they get replaced with people who understand 2454 02:26:40.520 --> 02:26:44.079 the new paradigm better. And that's why that system that 2455 02:26:44.120 --> 02:26:47.200 I was talking about earlier, that is just important, you know, 2456 02:26:47.520 --> 02:26:50.520 like getting somebody getting some of the older generations, somebody 2457 02:26:50.600 --> 02:26:54.000 like Tucker to speak directly to the things that we 2458 02:26:54.159 --> 02:26:57.600 think need to be spoken to, like a I think, 2459 02:26:57.639 --> 02:27:00.399 you know, just for propaganda purposes. That's just not as product. 2460 02:27:00.719 --> 02:27:03.639 But it's you're not gonna not gonna be able to 2461 02:27:03.639 --> 02:27:05.840 do that. You know. What you can do is get 2462 02:27:05.840 --> 02:27:09.079 somebody like him to open up enough space for somebody 2463 02:27:09.159 --> 02:27:11.799 like me to operate, and then somebody like me to 2464 02:27:11.879 --> 02:27:14.959 open up enough space for you know, people who can 2465 02:27:15.040 --> 02:27:19.200 be more direct to operate. And if we can continue 2466 02:27:19.200 --> 02:27:21.200 to take advantage of that in the time we have, 2467 02:27:21.959 --> 02:27:24.120 you know, if we can get VANCE in there for 2468 02:27:24.200 --> 02:27:27.479 eight years. Yeah, I mean this is and again forget 2469 02:27:27.520 --> 02:27:30.200 about like what you think VANCE is gonna accomplish. Anybody 2470 02:27:30.200 --> 02:27:31.799 out there who doesn't like it, I don't care about that. 2471 02:27:31.799 --> 02:27:36.079 That's fine. That gives us twelve years of not having 2472 02:27:36.440 --> 02:27:39.280 you know, the IRS and FBI and everything else on 2473 02:27:39.280 --> 02:27:42.440 our back, of not having the federal government probably going 2474 02:27:42.520 --> 02:27:45.600 ham trying to force Elon Musk to sell Twitter, you know, 2475 02:27:45.680 --> 02:27:48.680 and closing down that channel of communication. It gives us 2476 02:27:48.680 --> 02:27:51.920 twelve years to you know, be able to to have 2477 02:27:52.280 --> 02:27:54.799 in person meetings and talk to each other face to 2478 02:27:54.840 --> 02:27:56.680 face and get to know each other without having our 2479 02:27:56.719 --> 02:28:04.040 groups infiltrated by you know, uh informants the FBI. That's 2480 02:28:04.079 --> 02:28:06.200 the kind of work that needs to be done right now. 2481 02:28:06.239 --> 02:28:08.399 And that's the work that we are able to accomplish, 2482 02:28:08.399 --> 02:28:12.000 whatever anybody thinks about the Trump administration or future Dvant administration. 2483 02:28:12.360 --> 02:28:14.639 And when you add to that the fact that you know, 2484 02:28:15.000 --> 02:28:19.040 this happened to a great degree, like in the Reagan 2485 02:28:19.159 --> 02:28:23.159 and first Bush term twelve years, you know, the Republicans 2486 02:28:23.159 --> 02:28:24.760 held power, and we can look back and say, oh, 2487 02:28:24.760 --> 02:28:29.840 they were forget their politics, right. What happened during that period, though, 2488 02:28:30.799 --> 02:28:34.479 is a lot of the opposition financial networks that had 2489 02:28:34.520 --> 02:28:36.920 existed in the sixties and seventies, a lot of the 2490 02:28:38.760 --> 02:28:42.959 just sort of the ideological infrastructure that had supported the 2491 02:28:43.040 --> 02:28:45.879 left up until like through the nineteen seventies, Like all 2492 02:28:45.920 --> 02:28:47.920 of that stuff just evaporated because they were out of 2493 02:28:47.920 --> 02:28:52.239 power for twelve years, and so money went elsewhere. A 2494 02:28:52.280 --> 02:28:54.040 lot of the people who were running a lot of 2495 02:28:54.079 --> 02:28:57.120 those institutions all retired and got replaced with new people. 2496 02:28:57.319 --> 02:28:59.159 So that you get to the nineteen nineties and the 2497 02:28:59.159 --> 02:29:02.280 Democrats basically had to run a guy uh To to 2498 02:29:02.319 --> 02:29:04.760 win the presidency that was basically a Republican in the 2499 02:29:04.799 --> 02:29:08.239 nineteen eighties, you know, and uh, you know, if we 2500 02:29:08.360 --> 02:29:10.799 if we have twelve years to work with where these 2501 02:29:10.799 --> 02:29:13.680 people are out of power, you know, they're all like 2502 02:29:13.760 --> 02:29:15.799 the Chuck Schumer is going to retire. A lot of 2503 02:29:15.840 --> 02:29:18.920 these people are going to retire, and a lot of 2504 02:29:18.920 --> 02:29:22.079 the talent they have at like the lower levels. You know, 2505 02:29:22.520 --> 02:29:26.559 Chuck Schumer's a moral monster find but like these people 2506 02:29:26.600 --> 02:29:28.959 are at least political animals who knew how to operate 2507 02:29:29.000 --> 02:29:31.040 and knew how to get their way. You know, a 2508 02:29:31.120 --> 02:29:33.879 lot of times Ben Shapiro is not going to be 2509 02:29:33.879 --> 02:29:36.319 able to replace, you know, just or just look at 2510 02:29:36.360 --> 02:29:39.719 the uh, look at the just the generational difference between 2511 02:29:39.760 --> 02:29:41.920 the neo Conservatives. You know, say what you want about 2512 02:29:42.040 --> 02:29:45.280 Norm pod Hortz and Irving Crystal. These were very intelligent guys. 2513 02:29:45.879 --> 02:29:49.280 Their kids are just these retard fail sons who like 2514 02:29:49.319 --> 02:29:52.719 are just embarrassment to their own families, you know. And 2515 02:29:52.719 --> 02:29:55.079 and that's a lot of the Democrat Party. And you know, 2516 02:29:55.120 --> 02:29:57.559 they have themselves to thank for that to a large degree, 2517 02:29:57.680 --> 02:30:00.079 just because you know, one of the best things it 2518 02:30:00.159 --> 02:30:02.920 really happened in the Democrat Party over the course of 2519 02:30:02.959 --> 02:30:06.959 the Obama administration is that the Clinton's, the Clinton machine 2520 02:30:07.600 --> 02:30:10.680 just completely cleaned off their whole bench, like they because 2521 02:30:10.680 --> 02:30:14.159 they didn't want a repeat of twenty eight in twenty sixteen. 2522 02:30:14.200 --> 02:30:16.200 They didn't want anybody to step up who was really 2523 02:30:16.200 --> 02:30:18.639 going to challenge Hillary Clinton. And so when you got 2524 02:30:18.639 --> 02:30:21.920 to the end of the Obama administration, the Democrats had 2525 02:30:21.920 --> 02:30:24.559 no bench whatsoever. I mean, you look at the Republican 2526 02:30:24.600 --> 02:30:27.479 primaries in twenty sixteen, and you had like probably like 2527 02:30:27.799 --> 02:30:31.920 at least half a dozen, probably ten viable candidates, you know, 2528 02:30:32.840 --> 02:30:35.520 forgetting about their politics or whatever, like ten guys who 2529 02:30:35.520 --> 02:30:39.040 probably could have run a competent presidential campaign. The Democrats 2530 02:30:39.479 --> 02:30:42.520 they got nobody, you know, they got nobody, and you know, 2531 02:30:42.559 --> 02:30:49.079 as their financial networks just start to migrate or evaporate, 2532 02:30:49.239 --> 02:30:52.200 because you know, they're just not in power, as a 2533 02:30:52.239 --> 02:30:55.079 lot of the competent leadership that they have left starts 2534 02:30:55.079 --> 02:30:58.879 to retire and die off. Twelve years a long time. 2535 02:30:58.959 --> 02:31:00.959 A lot can happen in twelve years, you know, and 2536 02:31:01.000 --> 02:31:03.799 we can get to a point where I mean, I 2537 02:31:03.799 --> 02:31:06.440 mean just in the time period we've had, and this 2538 02:31:06.479 --> 02:31:08.680 is with a four year break with the federal government 2539 02:31:08.719 --> 02:31:11.840 going hard at us during the Biden administration, but just 2540 02:31:11.879 --> 02:31:14.680 in the time we've had since twenty fifteen twenty sixteen, 2541 02:31:14.680 --> 02:31:17.280 Look how much we've been able to accomplish, you know, 2542 02:31:17.399 --> 02:31:21.239 and so if we can get another you know, nine 2543 02:31:21.319 --> 02:31:24.600 years of that will be in a very very different place. 2544 02:31:24.799 --> 02:31:27.920 You know, things things are changing way too much. You 2545 02:31:27.920 --> 02:31:31.159 look at the polls of like the way younger generations 2546 02:31:31.159 --> 02:31:33.319 think about it. People who are zoomers now are going 2547 02:31:33.360 --> 02:31:37.319 to be in their mid forties, you know, and they're 2548 02:31:37.360 --> 02:31:39.440 going to be the middle managers of companies, and they're 2549 02:31:39.440 --> 02:31:42.719 going to actually be people who, you know, who aren't 2550 02:31:42.760 --> 02:31:46.000 just participating in this stuff as anonymous Twitter trolls, but 2551 02:31:46.040 --> 02:31:49.440 they're going to be participating in society in different ways, 2552 02:31:49.479 --> 02:31:52.280 you know, and in more elevated ways. So we just 2553 02:31:52.280 --> 02:31:54.440 got to buy ourselves at time. And it's why I'm 2554 02:31:55.040 --> 02:31:56.760 you know again, I tell people I don't really care 2555 02:31:56.799 --> 02:32:00.920 what your thoughts about him personally are hundred percent advanced 2556 02:32:00.959 --> 02:32:04.840 twenty twenty eight, just because we he's not hostile to us. 2557 02:32:04.879 --> 02:32:07.000 He's not going to sick the federal government on us, 2558 02:32:07.000 --> 02:32:10.200 and that is all we need residential administration right now. 2559 02:32:10.760 --> 02:32:14.319 Well that and our own and we'll call it like 2560 02:32:14.399 --> 02:32:19.319 gentile financial networks too, because all of this does, you know, 2561 02:32:19.440 --> 02:32:22.440 organize and costs money. And that's probably the thing that 2562 02:32:22.520 --> 02:32:26.399 I'm most discouraged about is the lack of these But 2563 02:32:26.479 --> 02:32:29.879 if you think about, you know, who amongst us has 2564 02:32:29.879 --> 02:32:34.159 that type of money, you're really all talking about people 2565 02:32:34.200 --> 02:32:36.280 that are past the you know, we'll call it the 2566 02:32:36.520 --> 02:32:42.040 fifty year old dividing line and are fundamentally unable to 2567 02:32:42.079 --> 02:32:46.799 see politics as it is now. I think that that 2568 02:32:46.879 --> 02:32:51.079 and probably housing is probably the biggest hurdle for our 2569 02:32:51.079 --> 02:32:55.680 guys right now. Is the lack of organized financial support, 2570 02:32:55.879 --> 02:33:00.000 like there is no h Arabella networks for people like us. 2571 02:33:02.079 --> 02:33:06.879 It's probably one of the biggest you know, I probably 2572 02:33:06.879 --> 02:33:10.600 say the biggest, if not like the second biggest issue 2573 02:33:10.639 --> 02:33:13.719 that we have to overcome, and I think probably the 2574 02:33:13.760 --> 02:33:18.559 second is housing unless this administration is able to a 2575 02:33:18.719 --> 02:33:21.799 stop and reverse immigration to a large degree, but stop 2576 02:33:22.440 --> 02:33:27.239 and reverse both private equity and more importantly and larger 2577 02:33:27.920 --> 02:33:32.799 foreign nationals purchasing US real estate. They don't live in them, right, So, 2578 02:33:32.920 --> 02:33:36.479 like three quarters of the kind of the apartments in 2579 02:33:36.719 --> 02:33:40.920 Manhattan are owned by Chinese, Russian, Indian nationals that will 2580 02:33:40.920 --> 02:33:43.879 never step foot in them, nor will they ever rent them. 2581 02:33:44.040 --> 02:33:47.879 It's just that their financial systems are coming apart. And 2582 02:33:48.399 --> 02:33:52.200 the safest thing in the world to invest in, safer 2583 02:33:52.239 --> 02:33:54.879 than the US dollars because it protects you from inflation, 2584 02:33:55.120 --> 02:33:58.000 is US real estate. So until we kind of allow 2585 02:33:58.079 --> 02:34:02.399 guys to form families, yes too, I think a type 2586 02:34:02.399 --> 02:34:08.760 of mindset is generated by a man that has a family, right, 2587 02:34:09.159 --> 02:34:13.239 a wife and a house. It makes his perception of 2588 02:34:13.319 --> 02:34:20.079 time much longer, and it makes them capable of doing 2589 02:34:20.879 --> 02:34:23.239 the hard work that takes a long time before you 2590 02:34:23.280 --> 02:34:26.239 see results. So it's not just you know, it gives 2591 02:34:26.280 --> 02:34:30.600 them a long term time horizon, it's something that you know, 2592 02:34:30.639 --> 02:34:33.079 it's a victory that they can put underneath their belt 2593 02:34:33.559 --> 02:34:36.200 that says, Okay, if I struggle at something for a 2594 02:34:36.280 --> 02:34:39.520 very long time, eventually it will yield results for me 2595 02:34:39.559 --> 02:34:41.760 that are worth it. I think that's probably the first 2596 02:34:41.799 --> 02:34:46.000 step on the ladder. And unfortunately, all of the you know, 2597 02:34:46.040 --> 02:34:48.920 solutions that we've seen out of this administration so far 2598 02:34:50.360 --> 02:34:52.159 are not really able to deal with that. But I 2599 02:34:52.159 --> 02:34:54.920 think if you've solved those two things, get get guys, 2600 02:34:55.440 --> 02:35:00.120 get people with ideas like us. You know, luckily, I 2601 02:35:00.159 --> 02:35:04.600 don't you know, I was very lucky professionally, and I 2602 02:35:04.639 --> 02:35:06.280 don't have to worry about a lot of the things 2603 02:35:06.280 --> 02:35:08.840 that other people worry about. But I don't have enough 2604 02:35:08.920 --> 02:35:12.959 money to you know, I'm not a I'm not George 2605 02:35:12.959 --> 02:35:17.600 Soros money. I'm not you know, Bill Gates money, So 2606 02:35:17.760 --> 02:35:20.399 I we don't have those type of people that share 2607 02:35:20.440 --> 02:35:23.239 our ideas that are willing to put money to work 2608 02:35:23.280 --> 02:35:26.399 where people can make this their full time job, because 2609 02:35:26.440 --> 02:35:28.200 we do have to order. I agree with you, we 2610 02:35:28.239 --> 02:35:30.360 do have to. There needs to be an entire infrastructure 2611 02:35:30.399 --> 02:35:35.719 of people that come in with vance, both in public 2612 02:35:35.799 --> 02:35:40.559 organization in private. So I hope those things can could 2613 02:35:40.559 --> 02:35:43.239 get solved. But I asked for you. You're going to 2614 02:35:43.280 --> 02:35:44.680 say something, I'm. 2615 02:35:44.760 --> 02:35:48.159 Just kind of have to go. I want to give 2616 02:35:48.200 --> 02:35:49.079 Darrell the last word. 2617 02:35:50.959 --> 02:35:52.639 Well, actually I got a roll too, brother. I just 2618 02:35:52.680 --> 02:35:54.360 got a phone call. I got a contractor that was 2619 02:35:54.360 --> 02:35:55.799 supposed to be at one and he's going to be 2620 02:35:55.799 --> 02:35:57.079 here in just a few minutes, so I got to 2621 02:35:57.159 --> 02:35:57.760 roll out too. 2622 02:35:58.200 --> 02:36:01.360 Yeah, yeah, there you go. Look, this was a great show, Darryl, 2623 02:36:01.399 --> 02:36:03.719 thanks for coming, man. Just really honored to have you here. 2624 02:36:04.000 --> 02:36:06.680 Like I always tell you, man, anytime I'm trying to 2625 02:36:06.719 --> 02:36:10.399 dial back like appearances on just kind of you know, 2626 02:36:10.719 --> 02:36:12.959 turning down invitations in general. But that's never going to 2627 02:36:13.000 --> 02:36:13.840 apply to my friends. 2628 02:36:13.879 --> 02:36:19.680 So the questions part two come out, Uh probably, I'm 2629 02:36:19.680 --> 02:36:20.360 sure you hate that. 2630 02:36:20.600 --> 02:36:23.719 Sure, late February, early March. That's what I think I'm 2631 02:36:23.719 --> 02:36:28.520 on track for right now. So yeah, we'll see Stormy 2632 02:36:28.520 --> 02:36:30.000 it was awesome talk to you man. I've been a 2633 02:36:30.000 --> 02:36:31.399 fan for a while. I love you guys on the 2634 02:36:31.440 --> 02:36:32.959 Inquisition and I'll come back anytime. 2635 02:36:34.680 --> 02:36:35.680 We'll make it happen soon. 2636 02:36:35.959 --> 02:37:04.840 Thanks every great fella listening, and thanks Against 2637 02:37:10.879 --> 02:38:18.639 Stott.