Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Inquisition Podcast. Everybody, the panel reconvenes
Speaker 1: with a very special guest, Darryl Cooper from Martyr Mate
Speaker 1: is here.
Speaker 2: Darryl, thank you so much for joining us. Man, it's
Speaker 2: great to have you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great to finally be on here with you guys.
Speaker 3: Every time I listen to a show, I'm jealous that
Speaker 3: I'm not here so.
Speaker 1: Well, your name's come up since before the show even
Speaker 1: started as one of the guys we'd like to join
Speaker 1: the panel someday. So I'm glad to bring it to
Speaker 1: fruition today. And you've been you've been on Twitter recently.
Speaker 1: I mean you've been on Twitter a while now, making
Speaker 1: some excellent post and fighting the good fight. But a
Speaker 1: couple tweets you made the other day really grab me
Speaker 1: and Storm his attention, and we started circulating it around
Speaker 1: the group and talking about it. It's stuff that we've
Speaker 1: talked about and stuff that we want to get to
Speaker 1: in the future more as well. So it was a
Speaker 1: good occasion to have you on. So I'd like to
Speaker 1: read the tweet for everybody. I will link Darryl's Twitter
Speaker 1: in the show notes. I'm sure you already follow him though, So, Darryl,
Speaker 1: the other day you tweeted, America is not an outpost
Speaker 1: of Europe in the New World. Europe is dying and
Speaker 1: sadly will be overrun by Africa and the Middle East
Speaker 1: within the century. America is a new civilization and gestation,
Speaker 1: and the form it will take is still obscure. Our
Speaker 1: natural place is as the leader of Western hemispheric civilization,
Speaker 1: and in five hundred years, when we're appointing ambassadors to
Speaker 1: the European Caliphate, that will seem obvious to everyone. And
Speaker 1: then in parentheses you add, sorry, Euros, I'm pulling for you.
Speaker 1: I'm just not optimistic. You're always welcome here though. So, Daryl,
Speaker 1: this is something I agree with wholeheartedly. I'd like to
Speaker 1: sort of elaborate and expand on a lot of these points,
Speaker 1: but I also have to throw in here before I
Speaker 1: let you take over that I assume you got some
Speaker 1: pushback for this.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's definitely the view that you know that
Speaker 3: that meme with the cartoon of the guy surrounded by
Speaker 3: swords at his neck, it's the one that gets me
Speaker 3: that the most on the right wing, probably more than anything,
Speaker 3: and understandably so it's a pretty hot take, and you know,
Speaker 3: it's one that sort of flies in the face of
Speaker 3: I guess what should say is sort of the consensus
Speaker 3: right wing position and has been for you know, for
Speaker 3: a long time. So I get it, and you know,
Speaker 3: I put it up to be inflammatory, I guess, to
Speaker 3: provoke discussion.
Speaker 2: You know, it's a hard truth.
Speaker 1: And the very first comment that you responded to is
Speaker 1: Europe is dying because it is occupied by America. Now,
Speaker 1: this is I think maybe a good place to start
Speaker 1: with this tweet. What do you think he means by that?
Speaker 3: Well, if you look, I mean, Thomas has talked about
Speaker 3: this a lot. I mean, you know, I think that
Speaker 3: even leaving aside the outcomes of the world wars, you know,
Speaker 3: those two things could have happened in Europe could still
Speaker 3: be surviving if America hadn't occupied and controlled the European
Speaker 3: discourse for as long as it has. I mean, you
Speaker 3: look throughout the Cold War period, and I mean up
Speaker 3: to this very day. You see George Floyd getting you know,
Speaker 3: getting dead in Minneapolis, and you see protests BLM, protests
Speaker 3: in London and Brussels and all these places where it
Speaker 3: makes no sense at all, just the American superculture has
Speaker 3: kind of been exported, you know to places, just like
Speaker 3: back in the sixties and seventies when black power got
Speaker 3: exported to the Caribbean and the blacks there started attacking
Speaker 3: the Indians for things that really had no you know,
Speaker 3: cultural valance in those places just a decade or two before.
Speaker 3: You know, our cultural domination, and in the case of Germany,
Speaker 3: you know, our literal domination of their media and education
Speaker 3: system and everything is really just you know, created over
Speaker 3: the course of a couple of generations. A culture in Europe,
Speaker 3: not only a political culture, but you know, to a
Speaker 3: large extent. I mean, we've got our guys over there.
Speaker 3: There are a lot of good people over there who
Speaker 3: are trying to fight, but uh, you know, the society
Speaker 3: itself that that really just doesn't have the the wherewithal
Speaker 3: to resist their own their their own suicide, you know.
Speaker 3: And I think that, you know, again, even if the
Speaker 3: two World Wars had gone the way they had, if
Speaker 3: America had gone home after the Second World War, and
Speaker 3: you know, the Soviet Union hadn't rolled over the place obviously,
Speaker 3: then I think Europe would probably be fine. But it's
Speaker 3: that multiple generations of indoctrination and just cultural osmosis. I mean,
Speaker 3: the probably the clearest and starkest example of this, uh
Speaker 3: you know, of this process. It's just the fact that
Speaker 3: all of the countries that were behind the Iron Curtain,
Speaker 3: you know, living under communist internationalism, and you know, just
Speaker 3: they all have a sense of identity that they are
Speaker 3: still willing to hold on to and defend. And sure,
Speaker 3: part of it is probably because they were living under
Speaker 3: the subjugation of the Soviet Union for a while and
Speaker 3: so they had a more recent nationalist outburst that sort
Speaker 3: of you know that still lingers. But really I think
Speaker 3: it's largely that they were protected from the American cultural contamination.
Speaker 3: And when you look at just the line of demarcation
Speaker 3: in Europe in terms of the countries that are willing
Speaker 3: and able to defend themselves and those that aren't, I mean,
Speaker 3: it is the Iron Curtain, you know.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: I know, Thomas and Pete's time is somewhat limited, so
Speaker 1: I'll let you guys come in first to respond.
Speaker 4: God Thomas, Yeah, And the problem is there's an intellectual
Speaker 4: poverty among what passes for the right, especially on the
Speaker 4: question of Europe, because there's a there's a conceptual of
Speaker 4: literacy there. You know, Europe went down at Stalingrad.
Speaker 5: It was done. It's over.
Speaker 4: This thing was decided eighty years ago, and the entire
Speaker 4: purpose of the war effort was the annihilation of Europe
Speaker 4: as a discrete cultural form and historical phenomena and the
Speaker 4: can comaa eradication of its ability to massivelly assert itself
Speaker 4: on the world stage and power political terms. You know
Speaker 4: that that was the entire purpose of the war. I
Speaker 4: salagon our friend Kevin Vianna about this yesterday on his pod.
Speaker 6: You know, so.
Speaker 4: You've got this population of people these days who are
Speaker 4: having this kind of conversation with themselves that has nothing
Speaker 4: to do with historical, conceptual realities or statig realities on
Speaker 4: the ground in the military sense, you know, because they're
Speaker 4: their epistemic priors are totally wrong. You know, they're acting like, well,
Speaker 4: you know, World War two was bad, but you know
Speaker 4: the problem with Europe is that these liberals, you know,
Speaker 4: took over things and we have a bad immigration policy,
Speaker 4: like it's the whole thing. I mean, I don't even
Speaker 4: know where to start with these people, because again, they're
Speaker 4: they're so out of touch with the reality of things,
Speaker 4: and that's why you know, well.
Speaker 5: What's underway right now.
Speaker 4: I don't want to spin this so often to in
Speaker 4: a discussion at current events and military imperatives of the major.
Speaker 5: Actors they're in.
Speaker 4: But you know the reason why this design is crusade
Speaker 4: against the Russian Federation. There's a deeper catalyst for that too,
Speaker 4: because you know, jude have used their primary enemy as Russia.
Speaker 4: They always they hate them on that there's a deeply
Speaker 4: coded racial animosity towards them. The more immediate catalyst was
Speaker 4: obviously the loss incurred by IDF for the hands of
Speaker 4: the armforce of the Russian Federation his Blah and the
Speaker 4: then extant Syrian Arab army. You know, obviously that situation
Speaker 4: is resolved in my opinion for the worst. But the
Speaker 4: you know that was the immediate catalyst was returning to
Speaker 4: serve and permanently tying down the Russian armed forces on
Speaker 4: their own frontier. But more broadly, you know, it was
Speaker 4: an avenue of ingress to uh, you know, preclude and
Speaker 4: destroy the Burgening complex and independence between Europe and the
Speaker 4: Russian Federation, because that's the only path the European livration,
Speaker 4: you know, And just an example of what I was
Speaker 4: talking about, the conceptual literacy of the supposed right wing
Speaker 4: this or otherwise, almost nobody talks about this. They don't
Speaker 4: know what they're talking about. They have no idea of
Speaker 4: the actual catalyzing variables with respect to the you know,
Speaker 4: zionis aggression against the Russian Federation. They have no idea
Speaker 4: what Merkele was trying to accomplish with, you know what
Speaker 4: was actually a pretty masterful.
Speaker 5: Bit of.
Speaker 4: Intriguing, you know, whereby she took Germany off of nuclear
Speaker 4: power as so that you know, she could generate this
Speaker 4: deep independence with the gas prom under auspices of hey,
Speaker 4: you know, we're we're going green. You know, that's whole
Speaker 4: other subject matter. You know, Miracle was raised in the
Speaker 4: d DR. I mean, she she understands exactly what the
Speaker 4: situation is. But the war against the Russian Federation is
Speaker 4: a part of the continuing racial war against Europe, the
Speaker 4: goal of which is the literal annihilation of Europe, just
Speaker 4: as uh, you know it always has been. And uh,
Speaker 4: that was the raison I'm dead for the Second World War.
Speaker 4: That was that was the reason for the occupation. Everything
Speaker 4: that afflicts Europe today is approximately caused by the social
Speaker 4: engineering regime, which is, was, and is tailored as a
Speaker 4: racial assault on Europe qua Europe, the purpose of which
Speaker 4: is to eradicate it as an identitarian and historical and
Speaker 4: political phenomenon. And anybody doesn't see this isn't in the game.
Speaker 4: They're monumentally ignorant.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: The American situation is a bit different, but you know
Speaker 4: that that's a whole other, related but discrete subject matter.
Speaker 4: So yeah, the then I'll stop talking in a minute.
Speaker 4: But the the problem is twofold. The problem is, you know,
Speaker 4: I mean, we're uh, there's the there's a practical issue
Speaker 4: of you know, for the Europeans, they're they're they're they're
Speaker 4: at a disadvantage that we are not, you know, and
Speaker 4: they're availed to a they're they're availed to a penal
Speaker 4: system that can quite literally incarcerate them without any resort
Speaker 4: to even superficial due process. But also, and the more
Speaker 4: deeper problem is you can't and I mean I cited
Speaker 4: Gusty Spence the other week when I was talking when
Speaker 4: I was on the panel for the Portland event. You know,
Speaker 4: you if there's not a conceptual grounding of your cadre
Speaker 4: or actual or potential, you're pissing into the wind, and
Speaker 4: I can I can count that number of guys on
Speaker 4: one hand who have any kind of profile at all
Speaker 4: in in in terms of potential European vanguard, because the
Speaker 4: these these people are completely fucked up in terms of
Speaker 4: their conceptual orientation. They don't know what the fuck is
Speaker 4: going on. You know, it's a real problem. But that's
Speaker 4: that those are my thoughts, kind of add a glance.
Speaker 7: I think a big part of it is is that
Speaker 7: there are people, even on what would be coin the
Speaker 7: dissident right, that have bought into the fact that populism
Speaker 7: it is a way forward and can be like the
Speaker 7: way forward, when all populism is is just another form
Speaker 7: of liberalism, and liberalism is what's got what's got us here,
Speaker 7: so you know, whereas populism, like you know, like we
Speaker 7: always say, Trump Trump, demand doesn't mean anything, but the
Speaker 7: fact that Trump was elected means that people people are
Speaker 7: starting to think differently. But still, when you look at
Speaker 7: any kind of populist movement, any kind of you know,
Speaker 7: anyone saying the only way you're going to get any
Speaker 7: real change for you is through Trump, well, these people
Speaker 7: have lost They don't understand exactly they don't understand what
Speaker 7: Thomas is talking about with the last eighty years brought
Speaker 7: to us. They are they're bringing a band you know,
Speaker 7: they're they're bringing a band aid to a.
Speaker 6: Weary To recognize that Pete, they would have to acknowledge
Speaker 6: who brought this to us. And I think there in
Speaker 6: lies the difficulty or the reluctance for them.
Speaker 5: That's part of it. One's in a distint, right, no quick, I.
Speaker 4: Mean yeah, part of it is that there's tremendous pressures
Speaker 4: within the psychological environment to not identify the conferences certain
Speaker 4: features of this thing. But also it's just something that's
Speaker 4: beyond most people. You know, it's not even a matter
Speaker 4: of intelligence. I mean, yeah, if you know, somebody who's
Speaker 4: really stupid obviously isn't gonna be able to perceive the
Speaker 4: nuances of high politics.
Speaker 5: But like, people either get this or they don't.
Speaker 4: They can either perceive these kinds of things that they can't,
Speaker 4: you know, and most people they're just not built for
Speaker 4: that kind of activity, you know, on that top. And
Speaker 4: I mostly one of the balls either because you're marking
Speaker 4: yourself out as an outlaw and a disidant element in
Speaker 4: a real sense.
Speaker 7: Yeah, go ahead, well, there's also the fact that we
Speaker 7: live in a culture where, you know, people like Darryl
Speaker 7: can make a difference with what he's doing and the
Speaker 7: amount of people he's reaching and the quality of people
Speaker 7: that he's reaching, which would be people with the means
Speaker 7: to actually who have the means to initiate change on
Speaker 7: a fundamental level. But also you have this this creator
Speaker 7: culture where if I meant, if I say the wrong thing,
Speaker 7: I'm going I'm not going to be able to continue
Speaker 7: my income. I maybe get fired from you know, I
Speaker 7: may get fired from the you know, from Salem Media
Speaker 7: or Jailly Wire or something like that. So there are
Speaker 7: a lot of people, I mean, I can I'm not
Speaker 7: gonna name names, but I can name the names of
Speaker 7: a couple people who know for a fact the spirit
Speaker 7: of what of what is taking this over, but they
Speaker 7: they will not say it because it's gonna it's going
Speaker 7: to affect their income. So yes, I have to deal
Speaker 7: with that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and part of it too.
Speaker 4: There there's also a subset of people who have this
Speaker 4: delusion that somehow these things are a big secrets and
Speaker 4: you've got to wake up normies and avail them to
Speaker 4: these secrets. I mean, that's why I hate like the
Speaker 4: red pill metaphor. It's fucking stupid. And like, that's also
Speaker 4: not how your point is not how politics works.
Speaker 5: There's not.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, the body politics plays an essential role
Speaker 4: at scale in any revolutionary paradigm. But it's the idea
Speaker 4: that the political realities are a secret and somehow, you know, uh,
Speaker 4: you avail people to some you know, to some road
Speaker 4: to Damascus awakening, and then everything changes because there's this
Speaker 4: kinetic outburst of corrective forces. That that's not how things work.
Speaker 4: And also it's not everything the regime has done the
Speaker 4: last eighty year has been un like, it's been totally
Speaker 4: above board. There's nothing secret about it, you know, I mean,
Speaker 4: that's it's that's that's basic as hell too perceive things
Speaker 4: that way anyway. But in the case at Bar, it's
Speaker 4: literally the opposite of how it's presented.
Speaker 5: I just learned what it's seeing with it.
Speaker 6: To Thomas's point, not only is it one above board
Speaker 6: and in full public view, it's done with the basically
Speaker 6: the global asing managerial superstructure. It is functionally how they
Speaker 6: operate right like that there's I don't know how you
Speaker 6: would frame this, Thomas, but since post nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 6: I would say, when you had the bond vigilantes and
Speaker 6: the merger and acquisitions craze, right, it literally took over
Speaker 6: the financial market for about ten years. You took five
Speaker 6: to six thousand private companies split private and public companies
Speaker 6: split between Europe and the United States, and you turned
Speaker 6: them into less than five hundred. Right, all of these
Speaker 6: boards got folded in on each other. None of these boards.
Speaker 6: Actually people that sit on these boards aren't even the
Speaker 6: shareholders themselves, right, They're an accountant or an attorney that
Speaker 6: represents the shareholder. Right. So the person that owns these
Speaker 6: controlling stakes and these interests can't even be bothered to
Speaker 6: actually vote their shares. It's all done by proxy. So
Speaker 6: these people live detached lives from you know, capital, and
Speaker 6: you kind of see this merger of both the American
Speaker 6: I mean, you can call them American, but whatever, the
Speaker 6: American and European elites, right where like America's capital class
Speaker 6: has viewed itself as the enemy of American people, the
Speaker 6: exact same thing in Europe. And what's basically happened after
Speaker 6: World War Two. I mean, we talk about the Nuremberg regime,
Speaker 6: but we don't ever really get a chance to talk
Speaker 6: about is the Nurmberg financial regime. Say something miraculous happened,
Speaker 6: it's the it's the Keynesian regime, well kind of.
Speaker 4: I mean, and in broad strokes, I think that's exactly
Speaker 4: what it is. I mean that Sumpter, I definitely believe
Speaker 4: that's what it was. And everybody who saw at a
Speaker 4: corrective solution is in dialogue with keys, you know, whether
Speaker 4: you're talking about Rothbart or Trumpeter or even U or
Speaker 4: even Freeman.
Speaker 5: I think it's an over So check this out, go ahead.
Speaker 6: Nine tenths of every dollar in the world is printed
Speaker 6: overseas and exists overseas.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 6: It's printed by offshore banks and indexed to a European
Speaker 6: interest rate. This is like your credit card, your mortgage.
Speaker 6: Up until the last you know, year and a half,
Speaker 6: those interest rates were set up by someone in London, right,
Speaker 6: So for every and when I say dollar printed, I
Speaker 6: don't mean actual printing press right, I mean banks lending
Speaker 6: money to individuals or businesses denominated in dollars, which is
Speaker 6: effectively how our banks print money. Here, nine tenths of
Speaker 6: the dollars exists overseas, printed by overseas banks, and what
Speaker 6: that's effectively given these people is infinite money to create
Speaker 6: a really a bureaucratic transnational state to where like to
Speaker 6: what I think is very funny because often you say
Speaker 6: like it's globalism versus the resistance, and in a way,
Speaker 6: I think globalism is dying. But in another way, I
Speaker 6: think you're right. Right, So when Darryl points out that
Speaker 6: America has quite is basically distinct different and also the
Speaker 6: continuation of European culture, you've basically seen a financial bifurcation, right.
Speaker 6: So basically what has been the Nuremberg regime, both political
Speaker 6: and financial, has now separated itself from the United States. Right.
Speaker 6: So for I don't want to get into like sofur
Speaker 6: or libor, but in twenty nineteen, the euro dollar market,
Speaker 6: which is this offshore money printing dollar printing machine that exists,
Speaker 6: was effectively cut off from the United States. Right, So
Speaker 6: basically your money that those dollar bills that you printed
Speaker 6: over there aren't allowed to come here anymore. And it
Speaker 6: was a big, huge deal. Like they tried to they
Speaker 6: whipped up fake insider trading scandals against Jerome Powell. They
Speaker 6: did everything to try and I mean Nancy, sorry, Kamala
Speaker 6: Harris and John McCain high fived on the Senate floor
Speaker 6: when they filibuster the introduction of the US introducing its
Speaker 6: own interest rates that only US money has been introduced
Speaker 6: or it can be indexed to like Nancy Pelosi adjourned
Speaker 6: Congress six months early to not reappoint Jerome Powell and
Speaker 6: introduce this system. So basically what we're seeing is a
Speaker 6: financial fight that mirrors the fight that you're talking about. Well, yeah,
Speaker 6: the conflict diet is identical to the one that Daryl
Speaker 6: lays out. There's basically global capital is doing what you
Speaker 6: guys are talking about. But unbeknownst to anyone else.
Speaker 4: The term political economy is somewhat redundant because there's a
Speaker 4: political aspects to all macroorgonomics. But the nerveerk system is
Speaker 4: purely political. There's permutations of other human affairs, sociological structures
Speaker 4: and a lake they're impacted, but it is a it
Speaker 4: is a purely and nakedly political structure, and it's one
Speaker 4: hundred percent ethical in nature as its subject matter. The
Speaker 4: economic scheme must serves that political structure absolutely, but it's uh,
Speaker 4: they're not they're not synonymous and that's important. And the
Speaker 4: reason why I say it's the Keynes regime is because
Speaker 4: even when even when America, even when neoliberalism became uh
Speaker 4: yass's based in Chicago school economics, which is qualified monitorism,
Speaker 4: even when that became the consensus, you know, in like
Speaker 4: nineteen eighty five, eighty six, eighty seven, there's still keys
Speaker 4: and assumptions that absolutely code and color decision making with
Speaker 4: regards to national economic policy.
Speaker 5: And this is important.
Speaker 4: When I say global When I say globalism, is the
Speaker 4: reality in the state is dying and you're a buddle,
Speaker 4: is that globalism is dying?
Speaker 5: Yeah, this kind of.
Speaker 4: This kind of Clintonian neoliberalism. Nobody believes in that anymore.
Speaker 4: And this uh, this, you know, the kind of the
Speaker 4: kind of model proposed by these PNAC type guys. We're
Speaker 4: staging kind of a comeback. That's over with, that's dead.
Speaker 4: What I mean by globalism is what guys like Emmanuel
Speaker 4: Wallerstein refer to, you know, owing to the fluidity and
Speaker 4: mobility a capital, owing to the reality of a telecom
Speaker 4: and WOI competent and dependence is facilitated by that. This
Speaker 4: is just the reality, you know, And unless there is
Speaker 4: some sort of truly punctuated crisis event where the grid
Speaker 4: went down on planetary scale. This is inevitable, it's not
Speaker 4: gonna it's you know that that's the new reality. Politically, Yeah,
Speaker 4: what's There's the new reality is that devolved kind of
Speaker 4: localism And that's what this is a perfect convergence of
Speaker 4: circumstances that you know, advantages the resistance, including us.
Speaker 5: That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 6: Well, in that case, I would say that I agree,
Speaker 6: except for in that punctuated crisis event is going to
Speaker 6: be basically the financial grid coming down, right, So we're
Speaker 6: going to see the exchange and free trafficking and information
Speaker 6: and you know, anything of digital means. But what we're
Speaker 6: just now starting to see, like right now it's at
Speaker 6: the World Bank, I, m F and G seven stage right,
Speaker 6: but pretty much everyone in finance at a high level.
Speaker 6: Everyone is planning on capital controls coming down within the
Speaker 6: next two years, so money will not be able to
Speaker 6: leave Europe. Specifically, it's the Europeans that are pushing this,
Speaker 6: or the European elite class that are pushing it. China
Speaker 6: seems to be on board. So we're going to see digital,
Speaker 6: We're going to see an information globalism, to which I
Speaker 6: think is just going to accelerate. To your point, but
Speaker 6: I think capital for the first time is going to
Speaker 6: not be able to move freely. This is why you
Speaker 6: see a lot of a lot of money fleeing, right,
Speaker 6: because basically a lot of money this is another big
Speaker 6: driver of the inflation that we're seeing. It's not so
Speaker 6: much just money printing, its flight capital.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 6: So if you're a Chinese guy with a couple of
Speaker 6: million dollars outside of the Chinese system, the only thing
Speaker 6: you care about is getting it into the United States,
Speaker 6: particularly real estate, right, which is another one of these
Speaker 6: big drivers. It's not just black Rock buying up all
Speaker 6: the homes.
Speaker 4: Think our exchange rate mercantilist anyway, So there's always there's
Speaker 4: always a rent.
Speaker 6: Yeah. So basically all the money is scared and running
Speaker 6: home or running to the US for safe haven. Says
Speaker 6: what it's about to come.
Speaker 5: Next, Stormy.
Speaker 1: I want to bring something up to your point about
Speaker 1: Jerome Powell, and this ties back into Daryl's original point,
Speaker 1: which was with the release of these Epstein emails, did
Speaker 1: you get to read that email I sent you?
Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, I think that's very interesting.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, an email between Steve Bannon and Epstein, where
Speaker 1: Epstein first is disparaging Jerome Powell because he's not a
Speaker 1: PhD in economics, and he's kind of using this as
Speaker 1: an excuse to say, oh, he's going to be outclassed
Speaker 1: by everybody around him. Then he goes to say that
Speaker 1: we need to workshop ways to get him out. We
Speaker 1: need to get him out as the chairman of the FED.
Speaker 1: We do not want this guy as the chairman of
Speaker 1: the FED. And as soon as I read that, I
Speaker 1: sent that directly to you.
Speaker 6: That's what's really money. Is the thing that Jerome Powell
Speaker 6: broke was how we basically rebuilt Europe through the Marshall Plan.
Speaker 6: But the reason that we didn't have massive inflation and
Speaker 6: the reason why we didn't have a collapse in asset prices,
Speaker 6: so we didn't have inflation or deflation. Right, So we're
Speaker 6: the only nation in the history of the world that's
Speaker 6: ever done war and not have either inflation or deflation
Speaker 6: immediately afterwards. And not only did we do war, but
Speaker 6: we did war on a scale that nobody ever had
Speaker 6: done war before. Unfortunately it was against our own race,
Speaker 6: but in our effort to rebuild Europe, to try and
Speaker 6: fight communism. We didn't give them gold, and we didn't
Speaker 6: print money to give them. We gave them the We
Speaker 6: gave one bank, it was supposed to be the Bank
Speaker 6: of England right the ability to lend money in dollars.
Speaker 6: But some funny enough, some Epstein like shit happened, and
Speaker 6: somehow that right to print money got given to a
Speaker 6: private UK bank. It's called Midlands Trust Bank, owned by
Speaker 6: of course the usual suspects, but within basically ten years
Speaker 6: being able to lend at five percent when every other
Speaker 6: bank on the British Isles is forced to lend at
Speaker 6: fifteen to twenty percent the actual reflective cost of capital. Right,
Speaker 6: you basically had a license to print money. And within
Speaker 6: ten years this Midlands Trust Bank had either controlling interest
Speaker 6: through convertible notes, so bonds is in like, I won't
Speaker 6: show up on the cap table if you try and
Speaker 6: see who owns what shares because I own bonds that
Speaker 6: I can flip into shares whenever I want to. It's
Speaker 6: a very stealthy way of controlling something. Or they just
Speaker 6: owned the shares outright to where this bank that no
Speaker 6: one had ever fucking heard of, effectively rolled up the
Speaker 6: entire UK financial system in less than ten years and
Speaker 6: then moved on to the continent. So by the time
Speaker 6: I'm the seventies rolled up this, you know, magic dollar
Speaker 6: printer had given a small group of people infinite control
Speaker 6: over the European capital base. So yeah, it's that's why
Speaker 6: that's why I said it's kind of like a Nuremberg
Speaker 6: financial regime, because it got rolled up it got rolled
Speaker 6: out at the same time.
Speaker 4: Oh no, And it's absolutely I'm not trying to be
Speaker 4: finantic or split hair is It's just it's political economy
Speaker 4: needs to be distinguished between ethical and ideological structures, particularly
Speaker 4: ones narrowly tailored to realize social engineering ambitious, you know,
Speaker 4: And there's something that it's kind of it's both. It's
Speaker 4: both more complicated and also discreetly adjacent, you know, Like
Speaker 4: I said, they're okay, are arguably arguably ethical. Uh, liberalism
Speaker 4: like Enlightenment liberalism is economic fe a He's keys, okay,
Speaker 4: But that's it's got it's got to be distinguished from
Speaker 4: it's got to be distinguished from the ideological program that
Speaker 4: was enshrined at the by the internetional militaries for funeral
Speaker 4: and and everything they're in.
Speaker 5: Uh, that was my only point. I think this is important.
Speaker 6: Well, we still got you on the line, because you
Speaker 6: know your time is limited. I'd like to hear you
Speaker 6: and Darryl. You and Darryl talk a bit more about
Speaker 6: Daryl's comments about America being kind of the continuation in
Speaker 6: the future because it of European cultural civilization, because it
Speaker 6: does echo what we've heard from YACKI just the solutions
Speaker 6: are backwards. Well, he diagnoses the same. And you mentioned once,
Speaker 6: that mentioned several times that Hitler in his comments to
Speaker 6: the Germans is like basically the best of Europe went
Speaker 6: to this place in that place had infinity resources.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and the best the best mentioned material.
Speaker 4: Migrated here too in his estimation, and just like a
Speaker 4: massive percentage of the German of folks lage.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: So, Yeah, America, America was and is the future if
Speaker 4: a no other reason then for what we just enumerated
Speaker 4: and the fact that still the American continent contains about
Speaker 4: half of this planet's natural resources. If Central Asia was
Speaker 4: a continent, it would be a rival to that, and
Speaker 4: probably about a third of our main natural resources are there.
Speaker 5: But my point.
Speaker 4: Being you know that this is one of the reasons
Speaker 4: is as nine when he's midway. Zionis historians say, like
Speaker 4: Hitler was a nationalist, like no nobody thought in herds
Speaker 4: of nationalism anymore, at least of all Hitler, who was
Speaker 4: quite literally strived to zeitgeist, you know, Europe had to
Speaker 4: become a super or die. And dialectical terms, yeah, I
Speaker 4: uh I, you know, not not only Yaqui was correct
Speaker 4: about the American situation, but also a lot of these
Speaker 4: lost cause historians. What underlay the war between the states
Speaker 4: in dialectical and historical terms, was, you know, whether whether
Speaker 4: there was going to continue to be this uh, you know,
Speaker 4: uh Anglo Celtic kind of cavalier element that viewed themselves
Speaker 4: as uh, that viewed their lineage as you know high
Speaker 4: you know, in highly racial terms and in deeply historical terms,
Speaker 4: and specifically as a population whose political understanding was forged
Speaker 4: by the War three Kingdoms. And then moving forward, we're
Speaker 4: going to guide the country's destiny with an understanding that
Speaker 4: you know, they they were the heirs to you know,
Speaker 4: European and in Indo Areyan cultural destiny.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: One of the reasons, part part of the seed of
Speaker 4: what became the New Dealer ideology. It wasn't exclusively uh
Speaker 4: you know, some exotic import you know, of of the ashkenausm.
Speaker 5: I mean, that was part of it.
Speaker 4: But you know, this understanding of you know, we can
Speaker 4: create a telluric utopia by ending history and stripping away
Speaker 4: was viewed as you know, the burdensome aspects and prejudices
Speaker 4: you know of the historical experience, you know, and and
Speaker 4: in that way truly secede from Europe and realize the
Speaker 4: ambition of the city on a hill by shipping the
Speaker 4: final trappings of you know what tethered us to the
Speaker 4: old continents and to Britain, you know. And obviously that
Speaker 4: viewpoint one out in terms of power, political ambition, and
Speaker 4: the trajectory therein I think, yeah, Americans are we are
Speaker 4: the standard bearers of what remains of Western civilization. But
Speaker 4: the days where it would have been possible to capture
Speaker 4: the power apparatus of a superpower and realize that in
Speaker 4: you know, in terms of practice on the world stage,
Speaker 4: like that's over with, you know, that belongs to the
Speaker 4: twentieth century. So, I mean, that's my view of it.
Speaker 4: But we're so we're sort of talking about two different
Speaker 4: things within a the the common nexus of a of
Speaker 4: subject matter. You know, that's the sort answer. I realized
Speaker 4: that's not fatuely short, but it's a huge freaking question.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Darryl, what were your thoughts when you I mean, yes,
Speaker 6: you're kind of ship posting, but I imagine it's also
Speaker 6: something that you firmly believe. How do you imagine the
Speaker 6: American continent and the people therein being the continuation of
Speaker 6: European cultural civilization, if not ethnic civilization.
Speaker 3: Sure, I mean, yeah, I do mean it, But I
Speaker 3: would say I'm not married to the idea. It's something
Speaker 3: that I've been kind of wrestling with for several years now.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's a serious idea. I'm not just ship posting,
Speaker 3: I guess, you know, I think of America as the
Speaker 3: successor of Europe in the sense that you know, through
Speaker 3: aeniis Rome was a successor of Troy, where the links
Speaker 3: over the centuries will almost become mythical as opposed to
Speaker 3: simply ethnic. I think I just think that's kind of inevitable, right,
Speaker 3: I mean, you arrive on this gigantic continent and there's
Speaker 3: a bunch of European powers who were all in competition
Speaker 3: for it, and you know, the people who came here
Speaker 3: from the British Isles had a sense of their own
Speaker 3: historical destiny that had continuity going back into the past.
Speaker 3: But as we resorted to mass immigration, wave after wave,
Speaker 3: generation after generation from first all over Europe and now
Speaker 3: course the rest of the world, it's sort of induced
Speaker 3: a kind of amnesia, permanent amnesia in America, where we
Speaker 3: don't have this long term sense of our past, going
Speaker 3: back into our European past, a long term sense of
Speaker 3: just our historical destiny. It's rooted in the past. It's
Speaker 3: something that you know, a lot of a lot of
Speaker 3: people have commented on that America kind of lives in
Speaker 3: an eternal present. And this wasn't true for everybody. For
Speaker 3: all of American history. Even after the waves of immigrants
Speaker 3: started rolling in, you still had this Anglo leadership class
Speaker 3: that was in control of, you know, very important institutions
Speaker 3: that it was using to select and integrate new members
Speaker 3: from these immigrants groups that were coming in and sort
Speaker 3: of work them into the dough. But by the time
Speaker 3: you get up to the sixties and seventies, you know
Speaker 3: that that class really kind of gave up the ghost.
Speaker 3: And whether that happened just due to you know, a
Speaker 3: lack of talent after a certain generation, or whether it
Speaker 3: was just they simply got swamped by the hyper development
Speaker 3: of of of the managerial system in America, you know,
Speaker 3: and and that the bureaucracy and the managerial system sort
Speaker 3: of became self aware and shoved aside this traditional leadership
Speaker 3: class that really had a sense of personal proprietorship over
Speaker 3: over the country and its future. You know, I think, uh,
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I don't even know who the who
Speaker 3: the Rockefellers or Harriman's or any of those people would
Speaker 3: even would even be these days.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 3: And so once that happened, once they I don't want
Speaker 3: to necessarily say advocated, but once you know, they lost
Speaker 3: control of the system.
Speaker 6: At Pearl Harbor.
Speaker 3: At Pearl Harbor, yeah sure, but familiar with the business plot,
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, sure.
Speaker 6: So yeah, I know an awful lot about that because
Speaker 6: it's kind of like overlapped with family history, and you
Speaker 6: get basically, it's the only time you had all of
Speaker 6: these men on side, right, So you have this organization
Speaker 6: that first they tried to do it, I mean politely,
Speaker 6: and they created something called the American Liberty League. It
Speaker 6: was JP Morgan, sorry, Jack Morgan, John Pierrepont's son, frequent
Speaker 6: op ed contributor to the Dearborn Independent. By the way,
Speaker 6: you had Henry Ford, you had his arch nemesis. Like
Speaker 6: these these men committed you know, not just corporate espionage,
Speaker 6: but corporate you know, I don't know what you'd call it.
Speaker 6: But these men burnt each other's factories down, and they
Speaker 6: said if they have they all each said, you know,
Speaker 6: if I ever encounter so and So, you know C. K. Rank,
Speaker 6: it would be like Fiver encounter you know Henry I,
Speaker 6: you know, I'll shoot him or this, that and the
Speaker 6: third Like these men hated each other, but C. K.
Speaker 6: Rinkin and Henry Ford, right, they teamed up Iree and
Speaker 6: Pierre DuPont. And you had Nelson and John Junior Rockefeller
Speaker 6: and their arch nemesis at the time, one Huey P. Long.
Speaker 6: You had Al Smith, who was the president of the
Speaker 6: Democratic Party and the previous run up basically the previous
Speaker 6: presidential candidate prior to Roosevelt, and the head of the
Speaker 6: Republican Party, all on this organization called the American Liberty League.
Speaker 6: And Al Al Smith's speech to the American Liberty League
Speaker 6: you can still find and it basically lays out the
Speaker 6: conflict diad and he is very very angry because he
Speaker 6: well he says specifically, he's like, you know, we put
Speaker 6: mister Roosevelt into office thinking we were going to get
Speaker 6: a democratic candidate, and what we didn't see is the
Speaker 6: he says Eastern European Bolsheviks. But I think we all
Speaker 6: know what he means. That he brought in he put
Speaker 6: he basically took none of the advisors that he was,
Speaker 6: none of the cabinet members that he had all made
Speaker 6: deals to bring in and replace them all with Eastern
Speaker 6: European Bolsheviks. And these these men are scared, like if
Speaker 6: you read if you read that that speech, they're terrified.
Speaker 5: They're like an end of the country to get that yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 5: go ahead.
Speaker 6: I was just saying that these guys, I mean, these
Speaker 6: are some of the most powerful men in the world,
Speaker 6: and they are terrified, Like you can hear it in
Speaker 6: their speeches that they basically view like, oh shit, this
Speaker 6: guy lied to us, and he's filling the country or
Speaker 6: filling the the executive branch with the same people we
Speaker 6: just saw teardown Czarist Russia, Like, are we going to
Speaker 6: lose our country because he's basically trying to listen to
Speaker 6: World War and they were trying. They had, I mean,
Speaker 6: they probably would have successfully got him out. After Pearl Harbor.
Speaker 4: Cornell Hall was uh, you know he was he was
Speaker 4: the establishment pettig reed, remember, of the of the deep Cabinet,
Speaker 4: but even he was he was a he was a
Speaker 4: lame duck anyway. But yeah, it's uh, it's very above bored. Well,
Speaker 4: I mean, just like packing the court. Roosevelt made some
Speaker 4: flippant comment, you know when I asked, like why all
Speaker 4: of his picks from the federal jud this year were Jewish,
Speaker 4: you know about how well, you know, it's not my
Speaker 4: fault that these men make excellent lawyers. There some something
Speaker 4: equally idiotic.
Speaker 6: But yeah, who was that Supreme Court justice that was
Speaker 6: basically puppeteering him around Frankfurter, Yeah, strength, Yeah, picked the
Speaker 6: supposed Republican. Republican Supreme Court justice basically gave FDR his
Speaker 6: marching orders. And what an FDR. We talked about whether
Speaker 6: it's abdication. What FDR did is he immediately created a
Speaker 6: whole bunch of financial securities departments and agencies. Right, So
Speaker 6: you had the creation of the sec you had the
Speaker 6: creation of the Financial Crimes Division out of the Department
Speaker 6: of Justice, and these organizations were specifically to go after
Speaker 6: Anglo power. Oh yeah, you guys immediately, yep, exactly, the.
Speaker 5: Anti banker for these guys did.
Speaker 2: Real what you're talking about.
Speaker 6: This is in the thirties, okay, Right, so you're.
Speaker 1: Saying that the Pearl Harbor was the last time the
Speaker 1: Anglo elite were all on side until.
Speaker 6: Yeah, basically during the thirties, right during the first FDR administration,
Speaker 6: these men realized that they had a huge fucking problem
Speaker 6: and a problem that would potentially be able to yank
Speaker 6: control of the country away and take it in a
Speaker 6: very Unamerican direction. They noticed who it was. They noticed
Speaker 6: they were all Eastern European immigrats if you look at
Speaker 6: you know. Anyways, So what FDR did immediately was create
Speaker 6: a bunch of executive organizations that started targeting their power centers. Right. So,
Speaker 6: you had the creation of the SEC, you had the
Speaker 6: creation of of FINSEN, and I can't remember the other
Speaker 6: there's like two or three other financial adjacent or basically
Speaker 6: financial focused regulatory agencies. And I mean, to Daryl's point earlier,
Speaker 6: like JP Morgan didn't hire its first Jew to nineteen
Speaker 6: eighty nine, right, Right, Like the Jews were kept out
Speaker 6: of banking, they were allowed to do securities trading, right,
Speaker 6: So this is why speculator has such a negative connotation
Speaker 6: in America. Right, banking was specifically a Anglo institution, and
Speaker 6: they immediately went after that. Right, So you had the
Speaker 6: introduction of Glass Stiegel, which basically stripped the you know,
Speaker 6: banking institutions of a majority of their power and handed
Speaker 6: it over to the speculators. So firms like J Goldman Sachs,
Speaker 6: which were irrelevant, tiny little shops until the FDR regime
Speaker 6: went Hammer and tongs at JP Morgan Chase sorry, JP
Speaker 6: Morgan b and wine Melon and Standard Charter. Right, so
Speaker 6: that was the you know. Then immediately after that they
Speaker 6: went after the oil companies right and tried breaking them up.
Speaker 6: Standard Oil and the Rockefellers held on longer than anybody else.
Speaker 6: They refused to acknowledge. They viewed the US entry to
Speaker 6: war in Europe as illegitimate. Right, they refused all the
Speaker 6: way throughout the war to stop selling oil to Germany.
Speaker 6: They're like, this war is ridiculous, this war is criminal.
Speaker 6: We want no part of it. I mean, I think Pete,
Speaker 6: on your show, you and I went through the polling
Speaker 6: statistics of what Americans thought of the war in Europe
Speaker 6: at the time, as like men were landing in D Day,
Speaker 6: seventy percent of the country wanted nothing to do with it,
Speaker 6: and something like seventy five percent of the men you know,
Speaker 6: landing in D Day had absolutely no idea why the
Speaker 6: fact that they were there. So it was kind of
Speaker 6: just an immediate right turn right into war into it,
Speaker 6: and by the time the war was over, Anglo power
Speaker 6: was dead.
Speaker 5: Ye.
Speaker 4: It's a great book by the skuy Kaufman, The Rise
Speaker 4: and Fall of Anglo America. It's I mean, it's it's
Speaker 4: very much, uh kind of a deliberately a political book.
Speaker 4: I would argue with that subject matter can never be
Speaker 4: a political but it's the data points in the punctuated
Speaker 4: deterioration of control over the institutions is is very it's
Speaker 4: very uh well explicated. I highly recommend it.
Speaker 6: One quick point to Daryl's Daryl your comment about how
Speaker 6: these uh, these Anglos they indexed themselves to European civilization
Speaker 6: for their their history and their identity. This couldn't be
Speaker 6: more true. If you read, you know, the diaries of
Speaker 6: a lot of these big wasp either scions or you know,
Speaker 6: the patriarchs. You see like no bless obleache died out
Speaker 6: in the European continent in the sixteen hundreds, but you
Speaker 6: see it really pop up in the eighteen hundreds to
Speaker 6: nineteen hundreds. So like if you worked on let's say
Speaker 6: you were John Pierpont Morgan's mechanic and you worked, you know,
Speaker 6: for the family for ten or fifteen years, and some
Speaker 6: horrible accident befell you and you're either no longer able
Speaker 6: to work or you passed away. The Morgans and they
Speaker 6: did this three or four times, but they were not
Speaker 6: the only American elite family that would, you know, repeatedly
Speaker 6: do this. They would basically take in your sons and
Speaker 6: they would put them into the same schools that their
Speaker 6: children were in, and they would use their networks to
Speaker 6: get you the same jobs that their children would get.
Speaker 6: And actually the guy that took over from Jack Morgan,
Speaker 6: Pierpont's son, was a man by the name of Tom
Speaker 6: was it Tom Lamont? Tom Lamont was the son of
Speaker 6: a basically a house employee of the Morgan house that
Speaker 6: that passed away, and these men like they are suddenly
Speaker 6: they suddenly find themselves richer than anybody had ever been before.
Speaker 6: And I would imagine it's an extremely disorienting, you know,
Speaker 6: position to find yourself in where you're richer than the
Speaker 6: federal government. Like, what the fuck do you even do
Speaker 6: with that? Real quick, they turned back to basically, real quick,
Speaker 6: the Middle Ages.
Speaker 4: Stormy Richard Whitney, who was chairman of the New York
Speaker 4: Stock Exchange. Roosevelt literally had him indicted and thrown in prison,
Speaker 4: completely insane, Like think about that, imagine like the imagine
Speaker 4: the haunts with the of the of the New York
Speaker 4: stock esteen just like being locked in prison and after
Speaker 4: two thousand and eight as.
Speaker 5: Like a place.
Speaker 6: I didn't know that.
Speaker 5: Yeah he went to prison, he did like five years.
Speaker 6: Yeah, go ahead, Yeah, yeah, I did not know that that.
Speaker 6: That's actually more insane than I thought.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I knew that happened. I just wanted to
Speaker 4: make sure my data points were roy. That's I was
Speaker 4: fucking my phone. I wasn't being a home over like.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but yeah, to Darryl's point, these guys basically went
Speaker 6: into like, you know, kind of a story book type
Speaker 6: of history of the nobility of Europe because they really
Speaker 6: didn't have anything to relate to on the continent, so
Speaker 6: they all viewed themselves as you know, noble lords and fiefdoms.
Speaker 6: And this is why you get that certain type of
Speaker 6: patriarchal sense of the American super rich. In that period
Speaker 6: of time, you have like Andrew Carnegie built thirty six
Speaker 6: hundred public libraries across the country in every town in America,
Speaker 6: and nobody had even heard of a fucking public library before.
Speaker 6: But he just felt it was your duty or sorry,
Speaker 6: you're right as an American to have infinite knowledge. Like
Speaker 6: John D. Rockefeller built almost three thousand churches complete with schools, rectories,
Speaker 6: and child care facilities in every town and city in America.
Speaker 6: Like John Pierpont Morgan bailed out the federal government. I
Speaker 6: literally leveraged everything he owned. If the federal government would
Speaker 6: have faltered, he would have literally been homeless, because he's like,
Speaker 6: America gave me everything I have. And you know, frankly,
Speaker 6: you're an idiot if you you know you bet against America.
Speaker 6: He actually kidnapped four other heads of speculator houses, right,
Speaker 6: you know, and lured them onto his boat, and I
Speaker 6: basically told them, you know, once they were past swimming
Speaker 6: distance from the DOC said, I'm it's my intent to
Speaker 6: bail out the government of the United States. This morning,
Speaker 6: I took out lines of credit from each one of
Speaker 6: your institutions, so basically, each one of your banks gave
Speaker 6: me double my money back in credit, and I intend
Speaker 6: to use this money to bail out the American government.
Speaker 6: But I'm ten percent short. So either you contribute to
Speaker 6: that other ten percent, or I use the credit that
Speaker 6: you all gave me this morning to bankrupt you, and
Speaker 6: by the time I take you back to shore, all
Speaker 6: of you will be out of business. And then all
Speaker 6: that money I borrowed, I now owe to nobody. So
Speaker 6: I guess it's mine. And what do you know, Like,
Speaker 6: you know, Jacob shiff got a sudden urge of patriotism
Speaker 6: and helped bail out the country. But it's just something
Speaker 6: that we completely don't see from our rich men today.
Speaker 6: It's it's it's patriotism when it's convenient to help me
Speaker 6: get my objectives done. But it's not a it's not
Speaker 6: a spiritual sense of you know, who they are, what
Speaker 6: their duty is, why they have this wealth.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's there's the end of a serial posture, this
Speaker 4: exio matic going to the ethnosectarian aspect of it. But uh,
Speaker 4: a guy who I think, I mean, I mean, he's
Speaker 4: something a midway, but his data points are useful. Charles
Speaker 4: Murray wrote some pretty good stuff about the sociological dynamics
Speaker 4: between between the one percent and everybody else, and even uh,
Speaker 4: you know, historically, I mean even well into the twentieth century,
Speaker 4: even like well into the seventies and eighties, unless unless
Speaker 4: you were Andrew Carnegie himself or something like. You know,
Speaker 4: even the guys who were the wealthiest men in America,
Speaker 4: their lives weren't, you know, inconceivably different than that of
Speaker 4: middle class people that all began changing in earnest in
Speaker 4: the nineties. You know, the lives of a guy like
Speaker 4: Peter Thiel, you know, compared to a dude who's a
Speaker 4: you know, like a branch manager at bank one. It's
Speaker 4: it's it's it's it's completely insane. It's like comparing the
Speaker 4: life of a space alien who it can traverse light years,
Speaker 4: so that like an African bushman who hasn't even invented
Speaker 4: a slingshot yet, you know, like these people live in
Speaker 4: literally different worlds, you know, and that would be a
Speaker 4: difficult psychological paradigm to reconcile even if there was a
Speaker 4: moral consensus, and there wasn't, you know, this perverse situation
Speaker 4: where a hostile elite who views the majority as as
Speaker 4: their ethno sectarian enemy, you know, And that's that's actually
Speaker 4: an important point. You know, you can't if your class
Speaker 4: of managers, you know, uh are our billionaires who every
Speaker 4: week travel to different countries on board their private jet.
Speaker 4: You know, I mean, how could they find common uh
Speaker 4: empathy with anybody but you know, their own cast, you know,
Speaker 4: just even if they desire to curate such things, which
Speaker 4: obviously they don't, I think it would probably be insurmountable.
Speaker 4: That was just something I thought of as you guys
Speaker 4: were discussing this subject.
Speaker 3: One of the one of the things that Thomas brings
Speaker 3: up often is how the conditions that led to and
Speaker 3: enabled the world wars to happen, and then in the
Speaker 3: post war period as well, that these are not one
Speaker 3: in a generation conditions. These are once in a millennium
Speaker 3: kind of conditions that are really not replicable. And you know,
Speaker 3: I think about I guess a lot of people kind
Speaker 3: of have learned to take for granted over the last
Speaker 3: eighty years in the United States, these these very unnatural
Speaker 3: economic and global political conditions where you know, the entire
Speaker 3: planet had just been destroyed, its industrial base was destroyed.
Speaker 3: We had the only one that was left standing. We
Speaker 3: had the people, the resources, and the industrial base to
Speaker 3: rebuild the entire planet. And so, as you said earlier,
Speaker 3: like we go through this great war and don't face
Speaker 3: this period of rampant inflation or deflation afterwards, the entire
Speaker 3: world needed American capital, labor, resources, et cetera. And it
Speaker 3: really pushed us into this just stratospheric economic place where
Speaker 3: that over time people learned to kind of take for
Speaker 3: granted as part of the natural order of things. And
Speaker 3: what the period we're in now and have been in
Speaker 3: since maybe the mid two thousands, when maybe the late
Speaker 3: two thousands, when Russia and China started to really flex
Speaker 3: and push back on the world stage, is a return
Speaker 3: to the mean, a turn a return to more natural
Speaker 3: like multipolar conditions under which a lot of these institutions
Speaker 3: and just the ways we operate can't really function. You know,
Speaker 3: in the nineteen nineties you had this you know, to
Speaker 3: your point. You go Charles Murray talks about this too.
Speaker 3: You go back to the mid twentieth century, and you know,
Speaker 3: not only did elites have this sense of no bless oblized,
Speaker 3: not only were their lives not so radically different from
Speaker 3: the people that work for them, but they were also
Speaker 3: much more locally oriented.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: You go back and read through like the battles that
Speaker 3: the elites in Chicago went through with other big cities
Speaker 3: elites to try to get the World's Fair there in
Speaker 3: eighteen ninety three, and I mean it was really important
Speaker 3: to them, you know. But then over time, as you
Speaker 3: go through that process, as Stormy mentioned earlier, where these
Speaker 3: thousands of companies become a few hundred companies, all of
Speaker 3: those elites shifted to you know, New York, even if
Speaker 3: they didn't physically necessarily go there, like that's where there,
Speaker 3: that's where their people were, New York, d C. Maybe
Speaker 3: LA A few like megalopolises that absorbed all of those people,
Speaker 3: and all of that sense of localism really went away.
Speaker 3: And when you get into the post Cold War period
Speaker 3: and things, you know, start to start to become not
Speaker 3: just scaled up at at a national level, but at
Speaker 3: a global level. You saw that on a on the
Speaker 3: next you know, the next level up where those people
Speaker 3: who had kind of left behind loyalty for Detroit, Michigan,
Speaker 3: for New York City have now even left behind loyalty
Speaker 3: for New York City for you know, just the global
Speaker 3: sort of class that they're a part of. And so
Speaker 3: but I think that, you know, one of the things
Speaker 3: that happened is that the elites really outran the natural
Speaker 3: order of things in globalization during that period, so that
Speaker 3: they got way far out in front in terms of
Speaker 3: their own sense of identity and how their interests are allocated,
Speaker 3: way out ahead of where the world itself actually was.
Speaker 3: Because you know, Thomas talked about how with just global telecommunications,
Speaker 3: just all the different technological and political changes, globalization to
Speaker 3: a certain degree and global integration to a degree was inevitable.
Speaker 3: But you know, we got to a point where in
Speaker 3: the post World War period, this hyper globalization that we
Speaker 3: that we really saw and that the elites came to
Speaker 3: really identify themselves with, was a result of American unipolarity.
Speaker 3: And even if you take away something like just you know,
Speaker 3: you have a few other major powers that can control
Speaker 3: what goes on in their own region, control the sea
Speaker 3: lanes in their own region, all of those kind of things.
Speaker 3: The global economic system is has is not in a
Speaker 3: place where it is prepared to account for that, and
Speaker 3: so yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 4: Despite design, it's it wasn't sustainable from inception and the
Speaker 4: the idea of true globalism and the and the the
Speaker 4: integration of an adjacent political structure with the new interdependent
Speaker 4: you know, uh, economic paradigm that was that's Bush the
Speaker 4: Bush Baker administration. Their vision was that the Soviet Union
Speaker 4: would remain intact until full nuclear disarmament was realized. There'd
Speaker 4: be this gradual you know, stripping away of the command economy,
Speaker 4: you know, and uh, the integration of the Soviet economy
Speaker 4: into world markets, you know, in a way that wouldn't
Speaker 4: cause punctuated disturbances that tended towards the actual crisis level,
Speaker 4: you know. And they had something you know, with Goruschev
Speaker 4: and shivit Nards, you know, they had an understanding there.
Speaker 4: The neocons guy was Yelston, and Yelton completely nuked the
Speaker 4: possibility of that being realized, you know, and this kind
Speaker 4: of this kind of mass looting operation.
Speaker 5: Set in.
Speaker 4: Coupled with this, you know, hyper aggressive military posture that
Speaker 4: was you know, nakedly tailored to facilitate Zionist interests. You know,
Speaker 4: the the ultimate goal was to break Russia at the
Speaker 4: Soviet Union and the constituent elements, you know, like a
Speaker 4: greater Ukraine, you know, like a kind of commissary at
Speaker 4: moscown almost like the you know, the the Third Reich
Speaker 4: agin in geographic terms, and then like a Soviet Far
Speaker 4: East probably uh, you know, some of which would be
Speaker 4: conceded proceeded to the PRC, you know, and uh, this
Speaker 4: kind of looting the planet at mass scale. Well at
Speaker 4: the same time, uh, you know, socially engineering populations by
Speaker 4: aggressive ethnic cleansing and forced mixing.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: Uh, this was the planetary Morgan foul plan quite literally,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 5: And thank God, uh.
Speaker 4: That that that blew up in their faces, and you know,
Speaker 4: God bless the resistance for you know, for were indisputably
Speaker 4: you know, causing it to fail.
Speaker 5: But that's that was the intention.
Speaker 4: And uh, the ideological and social engineering aspects, it can't
Speaker 4: be extricated from the economic ones, which is one of
Speaker 4: the reasons why that ambition failed, because, like I said, yes,
Speaker 4: when we're talking about economic policy, at national or global scale.
Speaker 4: It's it's always politically coded, but setting about to force
Speaker 4: political outcomes by way of economic pressure, that's always a
Speaker 4: fool's errand and more often than not it's catastrophic.
Speaker 5: That's uh, the key takeaway.
Speaker 4: I think there's many nuances they're in obviously because it's
Speaker 4: a huge subject matter. But that's that owes a lot
Speaker 4: to to the kind of contempt with which the new
Speaker 4: elite view their lessers as they would you know, stack
Speaker 4: it up and then you got the that's one of
Speaker 4: the reasons to where like Elon Musk is in this
Speaker 4: kind of weird role. He's like a weird guy anyway,
Speaker 4: but he's like this tech entrepreneur who's this boyish you know,
Speaker 4: Anglophone South African, you know. I mean he's like a
Speaker 4: man without a country like within this you know, overcast
Speaker 4: of managers. I got to raise up in a few minutes,
Speaker 4: but I still got a few minutes.
Speaker 5: If you guys that.
Speaker 3: Can they contempt you talk about you know, man, you
Speaker 3: guys can feel free to object on this. But it
Speaker 3: seems to be in a lot of ways a continuation
Speaker 3: of something that we've been dealing with for I mean,
Speaker 3: at least probably two hundred years, right, you go back
Speaker 3: to just the northern New England contempt for just the
Speaker 3: southern resistance to full economic integration and political integration of
Speaker 3: the states into a larger federal into a larger federal
Speaker 3: project that was more united. You go up to the
Speaker 3: nineteen sixties and you have you know, you see it
Speaker 3: really starkly with guys like John Lindsay, very much like
Speaker 3: a even though I think he was kind of born
Speaker 3: upper middle class, not really like a wasp elite. He really,
Speaker 3: you know, sort of became became the symbol of the
Speaker 3: wasp elite during that period. And you see from people
Speaker 3: like him this real contempt for a lot of the
Speaker 3: Catholic people living in the big cities who are essentially
Speaker 3: resisting integration, you know, resisting giving up their local uh
Speaker 3: you know, stubborn attachments and and and allowing themselves to
Speaker 3: be melted into a large, theoretically more efficient system. And
Speaker 3: now you see the same thing except on a global scale,
Speaker 3: where people are looking at their own populations that are
Speaker 3: resisting globalism in the same way that you know, that's
Speaker 3: sort of like a long tradition.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, they they created they created the Wallace coalition,
Speaker 4: which is you know, the Nixon coalition, which is Meg. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's why I fly the Bloodstained banner, because that's that's
Speaker 4: my fucking flag. There's an outlaw flag because these fuckers
Speaker 4: hate us. That's one of the reasons too, why I
Speaker 4: pushed back when uh, there's like all these doom codd
Speaker 4: guys like we're gonna.
Speaker 5: Be a white minority. It's all over.
Speaker 4: We're so fucked it's like gona be First of all,
Speaker 4: I've always been a minority Ryan Matt. Second of all,
Speaker 4: I mean my tribes the asked for as you know,
Speaker 4: South Africa, Ulster, you know here to some degree, Australia,
Speaker 4: New Zealand. Like we're always out numbered. People always fucking
Speaker 4: hate us. We're always approved target for their hostility, you.
Speaker 6: Know, kicking and screaming into civility. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have it any other way, you know, And
Speaker 4: like we're not uh, we're not We're not a bunch
Speaker 4: of koolies, We're not a bunch of Hindus.
Speaker 5: We're not like screwed if we don't have some super majority.
Speaker 4: On the ground, you know, Like, yeah, I one of
Speaker 4: the reasons why we're hard and effective and unkillable is
Speaker 4: uh you know, because uh, we gotta lean and mean
Speaker 4: presidence wherever we're at, and we're always beleaguered. You know
Speaker 4: that ain't nothing new and it's not gonna change. Like
Speaker 4: it's not to say that like demographics aren't consideration. And look,
Speaker 4: I can tell you firsthand what it's like to uh
Speaker 4: you know, be uh to receive a you know, the
Speaker 4: negative consequences of things like the you know, Biden's version
Speaker 4: of the Murial boat lift where he dropped you know,
Speaker 4: like ten thousand filoni is fin of.
Speaker 5: Swinging military age meals here. You know.
Speaker 4: Like I'm not saying like that's cool or anything. Anybody
Speaker 4: who thinks that is basic, but you know my point is,
Speaker 4: in broader terms, if you've got to shd this, this
Speaker 4: is kind of like soft like pussy ass like boogie
Speaker 4: view of these things is where it's like, you know,
Speaker 4: if you're not a super majority, like you're fucked.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: Plus it's not that that's not the case anyway, Like
Speaker 4: it's this idea that this idea that there was some
Speaker 4: like monolithic like white Ethnos in America until like twenty
Speaker 4: years ago, and now that's over. Like that's food bar thinking.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't want to get into like a
Speaker 4: broader debate about like the white race. Yes it's a
Speaker 4: real thing. Yes it's important. Yes I stand on business
Speaker 4: and I fucking rep it. But it's you know, races
Speaker 4: and ethnos and ethnos matters, and America is complicated in
Speaker 4: terms of the inner play those things. But I know
Speaker 4: only people are making fun of me about like abruptly exiting.
Speaker 4: So I'm sorry to live leptic cliche that stuff, but
Speaker 4: I'm going to do exactly that. But I wish I
Speaker 4: didn't have to. But I got a busy day and
Speaker 4: then later today I got dinner plans and stuff. So
Speaker 4: thanks for including me, fellas. Uh, I really appreciate that.
Speaker 4: I'm very humbled and.
Speaker 3: Good care Thomas.
Speaker 2: Great to have you in as always.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, So if you guys are cool
Speaker 1: with it, I'd like to get back to this tweet
Speaker 1: because there's a couple of things in it that we
Speaker 1: didn't even get to.
Speaker 3: Uh well, let me let me jump in real. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm going to play on that based on something that
Speaker 3: Thomas just said. You know, one of the things that
Speaker 3: I I guess I meant to put forth with that
Speaker 3: tweet is, you know, just like Thomas said, you know,
Speaker 3: our guys have got to really shed that doumerism. You
Speaker 3: know that like if somehow you dip to a forty
Speaker 3: nine percent population, that.
Speaker 6: It's all over with.
Speaker 3: We also, I think, to a certain extent, have got
Speaker 3: to shed this like this fortress mentality that is very
Speaker 3: understandable given the circumstances that we find ourselves in, but
Speaker 3: it's one that I think prevents us from doing one
Speaker 3: thing that we really need to be willing and able
Speaker 3: to do, which is to prevent leadership to the civilized
Speaker 3: minorities that do live among us. You know, And with
Speaker 3: that tweet, when I say that, like we need to
Speaker 3: embrace our role as the leader of a Western hemispheric civilization,
Speaker 3: I mean, it's really kind of ridiculous that we over
Speaker 3: the years have tolerated a half failed state on our
Speaker 3: southern border, and that it's a state that you know,
Speaker 3: we have like good relations with, like you know, and
Speaker 3: all there's no hot like like outward hostility there or anything.
Speaker 3: But like, we we need the Western hemisphere, every country
Speaker 3: in it, to look at us as their leader. And
Speaker 3: part of doing that is that you know, our nationalist
Speaker 3: core in the United States itself has got to take
Speaker 3: on a leadership role with respect to these civilized minorities
Speaker 3: who live here with us in this country, you know,
Speaker 3: And it can't just be like a you know, a
Speaker 3: matter of racial purity or any of those things, because
Speaker 3: the bottom line is, I mean, unless there is some
Speaker 3: just completely un foreseeable transformation that would probably create a
Speaker 3: catastrophe with with uh, you know, outcome that that that
Speaker 3: can't be predicted. You know, demographics are going to continue
Speaker 3: to trend in the direction they're trending, at least to
Speaker 3: a certain point where, you know, where where they stabilize,
Speaker 3: and that doesn't look like that's going to happen anytime soon.
Speaker 3: That's the world we have to live in. And uh
Speaker 3: sort of going into a fortress mode of racial purity
Speaker 3: rather than recognizing that, you know, uh, there are a
Speaker 3: lot of Latinos, there's a lot of civilized people in
Speaker 3: this country who just want to live regular lives and
Speaker 3: would be perfectly willing to accept the leadership of people
Speaker 3: who know how to make that happen. I think is important,
Speaker 3: you know, And I think that you know, because it's
Speaker 3: very easy to get to get lost and especially for
Speaker 3: somebody like me, probably all of us, to get lost
Speaker 3: in the history of the whole thing and thinking about, like,
Speaker 3: you know, just what's been lost, all the nostalgia, all
Speaker 3: these kind of like larger not abstract but like semi
Speaker 3: abstract ways of looking at the whole situation and forgetting
Speaker 3: the fact that, you know, the the real important part
Speaker 3: here is that our grandkids are still living in a
Speaker 3: country where you know, they don't get kidnapped when they
Speaker 3: walk down the street, or it's just a functional country,
Speaker 3: you know, And there are people out there who aren't
Speaker 3: necessarily going to get on board with you know, some
Speaker 3: white racial purity test that that can help with that,
Speaker 3: you know, and are willing to accept leadership. And so
Speaker 3: that's part of what I meant by that tweet.
Speaker 6: Well, to your point, Darrel, I think there's a clear
Speaker 6: demarcation that can be made between people that come here
Speaker 6: and marry in. I think marriage is probably the oldest
Speaker 6: and most you know, stable immigration policy.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 6: If somebody in you know, the host nation vouchers to
Speaker 6: the extent that they come further and say like I
Speaker 6: love this person, right, that person is no longer a
Speaker 6: burden of the state because they are coming into the
Speaker 6: country with a support network already in place. Right, they
Speaker 6: have no choice, not no choice, but they are very
Speaker 6: very excited about culturally integrating because they are integrating at
Speaker 6: the most core level a person can be integrated to anything,
Speaker 6: right is the integration of man and wife into that
Speaker 6: singular human being. Also, it clears away a lot of
Speaker 6: political problems. Right. So, right now you have a whole
Speaker 6: bunch of very wound up, left eoyed women and I
Speaker 6: think basically telling them like, oh no, immigration is now
Speaker 6: actually your choice. You just have to marry them, like
Speaker 6: you can bring in whoever you want, but you have
Speaker 6: to love them, and you have to love them forever.
Speaker 6: The other thing is you can probably draw a very
Speaker 6: clear demarcation line between those that come to live here
Speaker 6: by where they keep their money. Right, there are individuals
Speaker 6: like a lot of the Latino individuals that you talk about,
Speaker 6: they're not sending money back home to Mexico. Right, They're
Speaker 6: building their future where they see their future as being right.
Speaker 6: But then you need to also, you know, well it
Speaker 6: just by making that one distinction draws a clear contrast
Speaker 6: between the people that view this as an economic zone
Speaker 6: for extracting. Like I mean, even guys like Vivek Ramaswami,
Speaker 6: the the healthcare stock fraudster. His parents had no problem
Speaker 6: coming to America and having him and getting set up
Speaker 6: in lovely sinecure positions. So American PhDs don't get paid anything.
Speaker 6: But they've been your twenty years. Their son got to
Speaker 6: make five hundred million dollars in America and they still
Speaker 6: don't want to become US citizens. They're sending all their
Speaker 6: money back home to India, building nice little I mean,
Speaker 6: I hate to point him out and make it, actually
Speaker 6: I don't. I hate that man. I think he is
Speaker 6: kind of the epitome of what we're seeing. But there
Speaker 6: is a clear line between who sends money out of
Speaker 6: the country to where those people see their home actually being.
Speaker 6: And the amount of money that leaves this country is staggering, right.
Speaker 6: We're talking half a trillion dollars at a clip, right,
Speaker 6: h fisk. I mean literally half of the almost half
Speaker 6: of the sorry, almost more than half of the entire
Speaker 6: Defense Department's budget leaves this country in remittances, all right.
Speaker 6: So that means money is earned here, and it's a
Speaker 6: money that could have been given to somebody that actually
Speaker 6: lives here. And you know is from here, it's given
Speaker 6: to somebody else, and that money doesn't stay in the economy.
Speaker 6: And this is kind of the lie about you know,
Speaker 6: immigration being a boost to GDP, which is the lie
Speaker 6: that a lot of our elites are told, right, because
Speaker 6: if GDP backward dates, the sovereign debt begins to quickly
Speaker 6: lose value, which accelerates rapidly and will end the nation
Speaker 6: in sovereign debt default really fucking quickly. So it's not
Speaker 6: just that they only care about line goes up, it's
Speaker 6: that they can only care about line goes up because
Speaker 6: how much debt all of these nations are in. But
Speaker 6: there's also a foreign policy element. There is a I
Speaker 6: can pull it up on my phone, but there's a
Speaker 6: speech that Prime Minister Modi is given giving to his
Speaker 6: BNP party talking about how and it's actually really funny
Speaker 6: because he basically says, we're going to do what the
Speaker 6: Jews do for Israel. We are going to put as
Speaker 6: many individuals into America, into these Western countries as possible,
Speaker 6: and those people will then lobby for India's interests and
Speaker 6: the Modi government is basically helped facilitate you know, you
Speaker 6: actually have. You know, it's not just these people filling
Speaker 6: out frauds in H one B applications. It's the fucking
Speaker 6: Indian government doing it. It's the Chinese government doing it.
Speaker 6: And I mean every time, I mean, I'm sure it's
Speaker 6: really embarrassing to the people at the DoD, but every
Speaker 6: time we catch somebody selling secrets, their name is always
Speaker 6: like Ching Chong Lee. Actually, I remember one of the
Speaker 6: very first things I heard you do was a episode
Speaker 6: you did with Jocko and this is you're the only
Speaker 6: other person at that time that I had heard talk
Speaker 6: about the faction in the US military slash intelligence communities,
Speaker 6: and like, these men are not like this is not
Speaker 6: a monolith. These people are often you know, have diametrically
Speaker 6: opposed goals. But in that episode you talked about basically
Speaker 6: the racial sensitivity training that was somehow also you know,
Speaker 6: be on the lookout for people, you know, stealing intelligence information,
Speaker 6: but also don't be racist at the same time, so
Speaker 6: you'd have to parse those people out too. I don't
Speaker 6: know how you go about doing that bit, because it
Speaker 6: seems that a lot of the people that are selling
Speaker 6: US intelligence and US sensitive intellectual property seem to be
Speaker 6: second generation. You see the problem in the UK a lot.
Speaker 6: It's not the first generation Arabs that are the hyper
Speaker 6: extreme ones. It's the second and third generation that are
Speaker 6: you know, full on isis in the streets. So it's
Speaker 6: the ones that are actually born here that are trying
Speaker 6: to tear the country down, which is I don't know
Speaker 6: how to how I how to go about squaring that circle.
Speaker 3: What you know, it's like that's a that's something you
Speaker 3: almost have to call like a natural process just because
Speaker 3: it's occurred in so many other contexts where you look
Speaker 3: at you know, when when during the Great Migration, when
Speaker 3: the Blacks all moved out of the South up into
Speaker 3: the northern and western cities. You know, it wasn't the
Speaker 3: first generation for the most part that really really went
Speaker 3: up there and you know, trashed the inner cities. I
Speaker 3: mean it was to a degree they were you know, rowdy,
Speaker 3: illiterate Southerners for the most part, you know, who were
Speaker 3: in the big city for the first time. So there
Speaker 3: was an element of that, But it wasn't until you
Speaker 3: got up to the nineteen sixties when that first generation's
Speaker 3: kids began to turn into grown men. Eighteen nineteen twenty
Speaker 3: year old kids or men who you know, they had
Speaker 3: carried a lot more resentment, a lot more of an
Speaker 3: identity crisis, a lot more of all these things that
Speaker 3: they had to compensate for than their parents ever did.
Speaker 3: And you see it in the US. Like I knew
Speaker 3: when I lived down in SoCal, I knew a lot
Speaker 3: of people who worked in education in LA and Orange County.
Speaker 3: So I used to I used to date a woman
Speaker 3: who was a vice principal down there, and you know,
Speaker 3: she would point out to me that, you know, they
Speaker 3: like the America is a nation of immigrants. People. They
Speaker 3: love to point to statistics that show that American citizens, uh,
Speaker 3: you know, have a higher crime rate than immigrants. Right,
Speaker 3: I've never like studied that deeply. I'm willing to believe it,
Speaker 3: Like I'm willing to believe that that first generation of
Speaker 3: immigrants comes in. But look at their kids. It's a
Speaker 3: totally different story. You know, the people in education that
Speaker 3: I would be talking to down there, they would say
Speaker 3: that they have these parents. You know, dad works in
Speaker 3: a field, mom works cleaning up a hotel. They're both
Speaker 3: like basically just hard working, normal Catholic people and they're
Speaker 3: coming to the vice principal, coming to the school administration saying,
Speaker 3: I don't know what to do with my kids, Like
Speaker 3: they all want to be gangbangers, they all want to
Speaker 3: be this want to be that. You know, they're out
Speaker 3: flying a Mexican flag at a protest like you told
Speaker 3: them not to go to. You know, it's very much
Speaker 3: that second generation that was raised up in American culture,
Speaker 3: and you have to attribute part of it to American
Speaker 3: culture and media, but I think there's also just a
Speaker 3: more natural element where you know, there's an identity crisis
Speaker 3: that kind of takes place among people like that, especially
Speaker 3: when you know the the woman that I dated, it
Speaker 3: was the vice principal. She was a Palestinian woman Arab,
Speaker 3: and you know, she grew up just like a lot
Speaker 3: of the Palestinian just Arab immigrants at the time before
Speaker 3: they made their money and moved down to you know,
Speaker 3: nicer parts of Orange County and stuff. She lived down
Speaker 3: in Southgate in South LA and basically Latino community, Latino
Speaker 3: black Arab community. And when she was a kid, and
Speaker 3: you know, one of the things that they will tell
Speaker 3: you and Latinas will tell you the same thing. You know,
Speaker 3: if they don't think that, you know, they're they're in
Speaker 3: a conversation where it's going to be, you know, heard
Speaker 3: the wrong way. I guess is they'll tell you that,
Speaker 3: you know, in their communities, being with a white guy
Speaker 3: is like a status symbol, and that's something that creates
Speaker 3: a great deal of resentment among you know, the the
Speaker 3: other women as well, especially the men. You know, you
Speaker 3: saw this very much in the like Black Power movement
Speaker 3: in nineteen sixties. Because to this day, you know, you
Speaker 3: if you if you go to I've seen the numbers before.
Speaker 3: But it's not something they study or published very often,
Speaker 3: but they but they have. And the numbers of black
Speaker 3: women who go to university, graduate with a four year
Speaker 3: degree who end up marrying black men is very low.
Speaker 3: You know, a huge number of them end up marrying
Speaker 3: into the white community, essentially leaving the black community behind.
Speaker 3: And you know that kind of thing. It creates resentment
Speaker 3: within communities, you know, and and it creates a sort
Speaker 3: of identity crisis among the next generation that comes up.
Speaker 3: It's trying to figure out who and what they are.
Speaker 3: And you know, in a country like China, I mean,
Speaker 3: I imagine if any of us were to go over to China,
Speaker 3: they would probably have a dedicated agent tracking our every movement,
Speaker 3: listening to our phone calls. They would know every single
Speaker 3: thing we did in that country, and so it's much
Speaker 3: much much harder for us to take advantage of any
Speaker 3: kind of you know, any kind of fissures or cracks
Speaker 3: that might exist in a society like that, whereas over
Speaker 3: here in our open society.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: Again, like you said in that converence, that training that
Speaker 3: I had, it was it was opsect training where they
Speaker 3: were telling us how to look for internal threats, you know,
Speaker 3: people who might be in gambling debts or whatever, because
Speaker 3: they might, you know, be vulnerable to blackmail or selling information.
Speaker 3: And they went through all of these real world examples,
Speaker 3: like ten of them, and all of them except for one,
Speaker 3: there was one guy who had gotten a divorce and
Speaker 3: lost a lot of money and was in a lot
Speaker 3: of gambling debt. But all like nine out of the ten,
Speaker 3: we're all Chinese Americans who were spying for China, Jewish
Speaker 3: Americans spying for Israel, just all of them. And that
Speaker 3: was when I raise my hand and asked the question,
Speaker 3: and they told me, just we don't. You were instructed
Speaker 3: not to consider that as part of the information that
Speaker 3: you're you know that you're looking at and that's a
Speaker 3: that's a difficult thing in the United States that a
Speaker 3: lot of other countries just don't have.
Speaker 6: Do you think that that is going to be one
Speaker 6: of the things that have to go away? I mean
Speaker 6: because I mean as far as like the black community,
Speaker 6: the probably the greatest single, you know, bit of damage
Speaker 6: that was ever done to it was desegregation. Right, Nobody
Speaker 6: talks about the absolute apocalypse of black business. That happens
Speaker 6: like if you were you had black banks, you had
Speaker 6: black grocery stores, credit unions, black insurance companies, black energy companies,
Speaker 6: and the second the day after integration, you basically told
Speaker 6: the black community, much like you were talking about with
Speaker 6: with uh, you know who they're trying to date. If
Speaker 6: you give a black the choice between, hey, do you
Speaker 6: want to put your money in a black bank or
Speaker 6: a white bank, what do you think he's going to do?
Speaker 6: And we bankrupted black business literally overnight.
Speaker 7: Well to understand that though properly is that what at
Speaker 7: the time, It wasn't people that you would call right
Speaker 7: wing racialists that were responsible for that. It was progressives.
Speaker 7: They wanted that they wanted everyone to be together. They
Speaker 7: didn't want a black bank and a white bank. They
Speaker 7: wanted everyone to do. They wanted equality for everyone. When
Speaker 7: you know something that Daryl talked about earlier about you know,
Speaker 7: just basically teaching uncivilized people how to live in this country.
Speaker 7: To his his tweet about you know what he sees
Speaker 7: happening to Europe, I mean, I think this is one
Speaker 7: of the reasons why Eric Prince talks so much about
Speaker 7: Africa now, is if you don't do something about Africa,
Speaker 7: and I mean, I know people have gone in there
Speaker 7: and oh, we've tried to civilize them and are yeah, okay, fine,
Speaker 7: don't try to turn them into white people. Figure out
Speaker 7: what's best for them, how something works for them, and
Speaker 7: then stay there until you can produce people who can
Speaker 7: actually reproduce it. But if you don't do something about
Speaker 7: them too, they're just going to overtake Europe. And if
Speaker 7: they overtake Europe, they're going to come here. So I mean,
Speaker 7: this is I know white people, you know, our guys
Speaker 7: don't want to hear this, mostly because they don't want
Speaker 7: to do anything. They just want to post on Twitter
Speaker 7: and they want to listen to podcasts. Thank you for
Speaker 7: listening to podcasts. I appreciate it, but maybe you really
Speaker 7: have to start doing something too, and you have to
Speaker 7: start thinking about ways that the future going forward for
Speaker 7: all peoples. Because you can say, we just have to
Speaker 7: figure out how to what's best for us and take
Speaker 7: care of ourselves, but the actually that army is going
Speaker 7: to come to you, and it's just a matter of
Speaker 7: are you going to be able to hold the army off?
Speaker 7: Or you go, what's there's a future that entails doing
Speaker 7: stuff And it doesn't seem like we can do stuff
Speaker 7: now because we're under occupation and everything. But if you
Speaker 7: if we don't start acting now, then there really is
Speaker 7: no future. There's the future is going to be very
Speaker 7: very isolated into different spots and yeah, you're waiting for
Speaker 7: somebody to just come and you know, overrun you. And
Speaker 7: now maybe we can develop technology that if an army
Speaker 7: shows up, we can vaporize them. But okay, who's doing that?
Speaker 7: Who's who's doing it? Or are you doing that little
Speaker 7: that research in your community of two thousand people.
Speaker 6: So I think to Pete's point and too Darryl's point,
Speaker 6: right A, you have the need for hemispheric leadership. You
Speaker 6: have the lack of opportunities, frankly because of the financialization
Speaker 6: of the economy and systematic exclusion. But you have a
Speaker 6: lot of I mean everyone talks about like the competency crisis,
Speaker 6: and I really don't think it is a competency crisis
Speaker 6: at all. Right, Like, I'm not a navy guy, but
Speaker 6: you can pretty much take the average white kid and
Speaker 6: teach him how to run a nuclear reactor ten thousand
Speaker 6: feet underwater in about two years, a little less than
Speaker 6: two years. So there's really nothing that I think our
Speaker 6: guys can't learn in a relatively small amount of time.
Speaker 6: They've just been excluded from these opportunities. I think colonialism
Speaker 6: solves all this, and I mean, really I do. I
Speaker 6: know mister Prince probably agrees with that. But if you
Speaker 6: go to India, I don't recommend you do, especially not now.
Speaker 6: You ask a majority of the Indians over fifty you
Speaker 6: know what political reality they want, and they will tell
Speaker 6: you full throatedly that they want the brit They wish
Speaker 6: the British would come back. You could say the exact
Speaker 6: same thing for Africa, right almost. I mean even in
Speaker 6: South Africa, right where it's politically you know, it's bad
Speaker 6: politically to say something like this. But I think we
Speaker 6: need to get over our squeamishness that leadership is a
Speaker 6: hands on thing, right, It's a way. You know, you're
Speaker 6: not going to teach you know, the Guatemalan about American
Speaker 6: leadership unless you're doing it, you know, where he can
Speaker 6: see it, right, where he can see the benefit of
Speaker 6: your way of doing things versus not it. Also, I mean,
Speaker 6: there's we can either fight over the same pie and
Speaker 6: then we have to be exclusionary to be like, Okay,
Speaker 6: well you're not part of this group of white young
Speaker 6: men that have been excluded from the professional environment, so
Speaker 6: we need to remove you and we need to put
Speaker 6: these guys back in. That'll be really, really difficult. But
Speaker 6: if you just expand the pie, you solve a lot
Speaker 6: of problems at once. But the US would have to
Speaker 6: get over this, like colonialism is bad thing because if
Speaker 6: you look at what happened to the quality of lives
Speaker 6: of these people, the worst thing that ever happened to
Speaker 6: them was that we left.
Speaker 3: There are moves being made in that direction, and Prince
Speaker 3: is actually a big part of it. I know a
Speaker 3: few guys who run a company that Prince is on
Speaker 3: the board. Is one of their consultants and right now
Speaker 3: they're trying to or they're in the process of buying
Speaker 3: a cobalt mine, cobalt processing plant in the Congo. And
Speaker 3: this is something that really would not have been I mean,
Speaker 3: it would have been hyper speculative, you know, if you
Speaker 3: would have tried it just a few years ago. But
Speaker 3: the Trump administration, we've got some We've got some very
Speaker 3: smart guys who are like young guys who are in
Speaker 3: the administration like doing work. You know, they're not necessarily
Speaker 3: the ones saying yes or no, but the ones who
Speaker 3: are who are putting out. We've got some solid guys
Speaker 3: in there, a lot of them working for VANCE. But
Speaker 3: but but throughout the administration and State Department other places,
Speaker 3: and what the Trump administration did was set up an
Speaker 3: agency that essentially provides political risk insurance for somebody who's
Speaker 3: willing to go in and try to do something like
Speaker 3: purchase a you know, a cobalt mining plant in uh
Speaker 3: in the Congo and doing it in ways where they're
Speaker 3: trying to like very actively, like very consciously trying to
Speaker 3: develop an economic elite in that country. That is somebody
Speaker 3: that are people that we can work with and have
Speaker 3: goals that we consider you know, worthy of just not
Speaker 3: not only their country, but in our own interests as well.
Speaker 3: You know. The problem, of course, like for for a
Speaker 3: long time, is that this type of economic colonialism has
Speaker 3: taken the form of, you know, we're doing it so
Speaker 3: that you legalize public butt sex, you know, and that's
Speaker 3: something that thankfully for the moment, you know, for the
Speaker 3: time being, has been put aside. The headwinds that people
Speaker 3: like that are facing, though, are that you know, like
Speaker 3: like you ask, okay, the people in power, they get
Speaker 3: accused all the time of being just in it for money,
Speaker 3: They're selling their souls all this kind of stuff. Wouldn't
Speaker 3: like you would think if it were just like a
Speaker 3: straightforward version of that, that they would have a problem
Speaker 3: with a half a trillion dollars leaving the country every
Speaker 3: year in remittances. But they don't. And the reason is
Speaker 3: that there is there are a lot of these people
Speaker 3: who are very much in the mode of just the
Speaker 3: party's ending. Soon, steal the fucking silverware and get out,
Speaker 3: you know, and and take the take the nice door
Speaker 3: knobs off, and all the nice faucets and just get
Speaker 3: the hell out. And you know, just as a specific example,
Speaker 3: of that. I have this from an absolutely unimpeachable cabinet
Speaker 3: level source. I can't go further than that. Right now,
Speaker 3: I'm working on how to, you know, talking to a
Speaker 3: few people about how to make it more detailed in public.
Speaker 3: But that, Susie Wilds, the Chief of Staff, is just
Speaker 3: straight up, very openly like Tammany Hall style. Anybody that
Speaker 3: wants to talk to the president has got to make
Speaker 3: a forty thousand dollars dollar donation to her consulting company
Speaker 3: per month or two hundred thousand dollars per year. And
Speaker 3: it's just very very briefcase under the cash style like
Speaker 3: nineteenth century like open corruption, you know. And again that
Speaker 3: is from an absolutely unimpeachable cabinet level source. And there's
Speaker 3: a lot of people who are like that. And so
Speaker 3: we have like a lot of good guys who are
Speaker 3: trying to advance these goals in the administration, but they
Speaker 3: got to deal with people like that, you know, you
Speaker 3: got to deal with I know a guy who was
Speaker 3: at dinner with Tom home one on one and no, no,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry he was. He was at dinner with a
Speaker 3: Texas sheriff who had who knows Tom Holman very well
Speaker 3: and had worked with his people on a big operation
Speaker 3: down there recently, and he was saying that Tom said that,
Speaker 3: you know, this is these are the kind of things
Speaker 3: that just make our system very difficult to work around.
Speaker 3: That Christy Nome wants to run for president in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty eight, and so she's actually slow rolling a lot
Speaker 3: of the attempts to engage in mass deportations any of
Speaker 3: these things that would look like, you know, either massive
Speaker 3: successes for people like Vance, who's you know, closer to
Speaker 3: closer to the president and sort of the obvious successor,
Speaker 3: but also look at the by the Republican and other
Speaker 3: people whose support that she's going to want as her
Speaker 3: you know, sort of going along with this barbaric practice
Speaker 3: and blah blah blah. So she's like actively as the
Speaker 3: head of DHS, actively stonewalling the attempts to you know,
Speaker 3: to engage in the deportation process and and home, and
Speaker 3: very often is having to find ways to do it
Speaker 3: where they can just basically go around the DHS infrastructure,
Speaker 3: you know, like the the one in particular where in
Speaker 3: Texas that I'm talking about, Like he had to go
Speaker 3: actually and work with a lower level guy at the
Speaker 3: FBI and use their resources to go down and round
Speaker 3: up a bunch of these people because it was a
Speaker 3: small enough number that they could handle it with local,
Speaker 3: local resources and some help from the FBI, without having
Speaker 3: to run it all the way up to the DHS
Speaker 3: flag pole. And so these are the kind of things
Speaker 3: that make it very, very difficult. But there are people
Speaker 3: in there who understand what you're saying, that you know,
Speaker 3: colonial like a benevolent colonialism, you know, a sort of
Speaker 3: a sort of you know, almost almost Marshall Plan for
Speaker 3: the Western hemisphere, you know, idea that like, you know,
Speaker 3: you can you can put one hundred foot wall up
Speaker 3: lined with machine guns. You know, Israel tried that and
Speaker 3: they still get through from time to time, and it's
Speaker 3: still a problem for them. And as long as uh,
Speaker 3: you know, we have economic policies and just governmental and
Speaker 3: social systems in Latin America that are completely fucked, it's
Speaker 3: just it's it's gonna be a permanent problem and the
Speaker 3: only way to really permanently fix it. Like, I don't
Speaker 3: know what the numbers are of people fleeing El Salvador
Speaker 3: for the United States right now, but I imagine they're
Speaker 3: a hell of a lot lower than they used to be,
Speaker 3: you know. And uh, if you could get twenty more
Speaker 3: bouquels and you know, actually have some governments and uh
Speaker 3: that that that were not just you know, systematic looting
Speaker 3: operations basically in these countries, then you know, you could
Speaker 3: stem the tide a bit that way. And and and
Speaker 3: I think that you know, in a way, yeah, like
Speaker 3: if Africa takes over Europe, they're eventually coming here is
Speaker 3: kind of a thing. But you know, obviously you have
Speaker 3: the oceans between us. But also I think it's a
Speaker 3: lot easier for people, you know, if we were much
Speaker 3: more integrated and seen as a natural leader of the
Speaker 3: Western head hemisphere, as the protector of the Western hemisphere,
Speaker 3: and seen that way by the other countries you know
Speaker 3: that are here with us, it's a lot easier for
Speaker 3: your average American sort of normy Christian type to justify
Speaker 3: and rationalize to themselves. Uh, keeping people from you know,
Speaker 3: from over the oceans, from coming across the oceans and
Speaker 3: coming in here, en Moss and the same type of
Speaker 3: numbers that we've dealt with from Latin America. They can
Speaker 3: they can justify that to themselves, especially if they can
Speaker 3: frame it in terms of protecting the Western hemisphere itself,
Speaker 3: you know, and being leaders of the Western hemisphere. But
Speaker 3: it does require like a you know, a lot more
Speaker 3: integration with our hemispheric neighbors, you know, which it's very
Speaker 3: unfortunate that due to uh, you know, a lot of
Speaker 3: it due to the Cold War, but a lot of
Speaker 3: it due to just economic practices and and and the
Speaker 3: way we managed relations with a lot of Latin America
Speaker 3: in the you know, the early years of sort of
Speaker 3: advanced capitalism. We have a lot of we have a
Speaker 3: lot of ending of fences to do, you know, a
Speaker 3: lot of bridges to rebuild with a lot of those countries.
Speaker 3: But we can totally do it. And and I think that,
Speaker 3: you know, one of the things is about it too,
Speaker 3: is it? You know? And this sounds like something I
Speaker 3: mentioned this to my wife the other day or a
Speaker 3: version of this, and you know, she's always very much
Speaker 3: in the in the in the mode of like, well,
Speaker 3: we don't need any of that. We just need like
Speaker 3: somebody in charge, people in charge who are willing to
Speaker 3: bring out the tanks if they have to and roll
Speaker 3: over any resistance. And I say, yeah, like theoretically that's true,
Speaker 3: but realistically. You know, you have to give the American
Speaker 3: people like like a moral escape route. You know, you
Speaker 3: have to be able to let them frame things in
Speaker 3: a way that doesn't make them feel like like a
Speaker 3: like an Unchristian kind of terrible person. Even if a
Speaker 3: lot of it is just been siopped into them since
Speaker 3: they were little kids, it's still there and we still
Speaker 3: have to deal with that. And you know, further integration
Speaker 3: with Latin America and the Latin Americans who are in
Speaker 3: this country, who are who are here and want to
Speaker 3: be here, and who are willing to be Americans, I
Speaker 3: think it gives them a lot of the moral cover
Speaker 3: that they would need to do the other hard things
Speaker 3: that would be necessary.
Speaker 6: Canada has to go. I mean, we talked about a
Speaker 6: narco state on our border. That's basically Canada. I mean,
Speaker 6: you've got members of the CCP Intelligence Apparatus as MP's
Speaker 6: in the Canadian Parliament.
Speaker 7: Dude, you have, you have, you have Indian government sanctioned
Speaker 7: hits being carried out in Canada.
Speaker 6: Yep. The out of all of the arguments that we
Speaker 6: just made for a more benevolent type of way to
Speaker 6: view our politics, the Indians Cattaco I mean it's you know,
Speaker 6: there are two nationalists like they'll never they never integrate.
Speaker 6: There's there's only one nationalism that's going to have to
Speaker 6: be allowed.
Speaker 7: It's I mean, it's it's diaspe people, Zionism, Hinduism.
Speaker 6: But well, if Zionism is the same as Indianism, now
Speaker 6: ender of Israeli.
Speaker 7: States is you're pretty aligned. You know, I'm not calling
Speaker 7: for dealing with diaspora groups the way Stalin did, but
Speaker 7: it's interesting that Stalin understood exactly what the ospital, what
Speaker 7: could a the ospera group could do to what he
Speaker 7: was building there. And yeah, and it's also interesting that
Speaker 7: you really even after nineteen forty eight, it took a
Speaker 7: couple of years and he died in what fifty four, Sarah,
Speaker 7: it took it took a couple of years for him
Speaker 7: to understand that now that Israel was a state, that Okay,
Speaker 7: we may have a problem here, but yeah, I mean,
Speaker 7: when everything Darryl's saying is correct, and we could do
Speaker 7: all this, but we're occupied. And until that occupation is
Speaker 7: dealt with, you know, until you have somebody who can
Speaker 7: run and I think everyone knows by now, I'm not
Speaker 7: a national politics guy. But until you have someone who
Speaker 7: can run for president who is openly anti Zionist, who's
Speaker 7: openly anti Israel, like or or at least no, not
Speaker 7: even anti Israel, but like now we're not gonna know. No,
Speaker 7: they're just like Mandami. I think Cameron McGregor made a
Speaker 7: really good point when he was on my show recently.
Speaker 7: He said, Mamdami getting elected, Mandammi getting elected in New
Speaker 7: York should be a white pill for people who understand,
Speaker 7: you know, who are anti Zionist power, because even if
Speaker 7: he is not anti Zionist, even if this is all
Speaker 7: an act, and even if he's going to kiss the wall,
Speaker 7: you know, in a couple of weeks, the people voted
Speaker 7: for somebody who was like, yeah, we know, we don't
Speaker 7: care about that country over there. No, it's it's here.
Speaker 7: The reason I'm I want to be mayor is I
Speaker 7: want to take care of New Yorkers. Now we know
Speaker 7: he just wants to. He's a gay race communist is
Speaker 7: basically what he is. He's not an undercover Muslim, he's Obama.
Speaker 7: He's a gay race communist. But still what the people
Speaker 7: chose should be a white pill.
Speaker 6: I agree. I think anti we'll call it like anti
Speaker 6: zionist interventionism and anti zionist fiscal support is going to
Speaker 6: be on the ticket in twenty twenty six. Right the midterms,
Speaker 6: it's already happening, like the congressman getting the most traction
Speaker 6: basically to primary some of the ones that are sorry,
Speaker 6: the future congressman in the process of primarying some of
Speaker 6: the existing congressmen. The ones that are running on the
Speaker 6: fact that they are taking no A pack dollars are
Speaker 6: getting a tremendous amount of traction and they don't have
Speaker 6: to pay one red cent to any marketing company for
Speaker 6: any of that traction because it's organic, isn't. Susie Wiles
Speaker 6: the former campaign manager for Benjamin Nett and Yahoo that
Speaker 6: Susie wild.
Speaker 3: I don't remember who's the campaign manager, but she definitely
Speaker 3: ran something for him.
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh man, Yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 7: It's literally it's comical at this point. It's common. It's
Speaker 7: comical at this point that when you when you bring
Speaker 7: somebody up, it's like, you know, Josh Hammer running, Douglas
Speaker 7: Murray running all over the place. Right, Oh, you're woke, right,
Speaker 7: you're woke. Right. They write speeches for Israeli politicians and
Speaker 7: they're not registered under Farah.
Speaker 6: All I want is just what it was nationalism for me.
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly, it's.
Speaker 6: All I want. Somebody. Can we just have a little
Speaker 6: bit of what Israel has? Yeah, it's this is going
Speaker 6: to be the pass through.
Speaker 7: Yeah. And it goes back to the whole thing about like, look, man,
Speaker 7: I'm my family is not heritage American. I have nowhere
Speaker 7: else to go. I have no I have notes ties,
Speaker 7: I've lived in another country before I came back. Why
Speaker 7: I didn't belong there. It's just I have no place
Speaker 7: off to go, man, So I'm.
Speaker 3: Gonna fa In twelve Block's novel Submission, the guy is
Speaker 3: a Jewish girlfriend who's leaving for Israel because things are,
Speaker 3: you know, becoming Muslim in France, and he tells her,
Speaker 3: I don't have an Israel to go to.
Speaker 6: And then anyways, it's a fantastic book.
Speaker 3: I mean, look, you know the the Yeah, it's really amazing.
Speaker 3: How Yeah, when you read something like Cuddy's book The
Speaker 3: Ordeal of Civility, and then you look at the just
Speaker 3: the smooth, the smooth of the propaganda that really consumed
Speaker 3: us over the course of the twentieth century. What you
Speaker 3: kind of realize is that that was entirely dependent on
Speaker 3: having very very few media channels that could be run
Speaker 3: by very very adept propagandists, and that once everything opened up,
Speaker 3: I mean, you see this ordeal of civility thesis just
Speaker 3: spill out into public in ways that are really radicalizing people.
Speaker 3: I mean, you just you know, I don't know if
Speaker 3: you guys saw the video that's been going around. I
Speaker 3: think it was at that event Barry Weiss held the
Speaker 3: other day or last week or whatever, and there was
Speaker 3: this this female Jewish activist or institutional leader, I don't
Speaker 3: even remember who she was, but she was going on
Speaker 3: and on about how, you know, just they're losing the
Speaker 3: younger generation because the younger generation is seeing all of
Speaker 3: these pictures of destruction and dead babies in Gaza, and
Speaker 3: they're filtering all of our arguments that were giving them
Speaker 3: in favor of Israel, like through the lens of the
Speaker 3: carnage they're witnessing, and this is something that you know,
Speaker 3: we really need to get control of. And then she says,
Speaker 3: you know, because for years we invested a lot, we
Speaker 3: bet a lot on Holocaust education as a way, Oh yes,
Speaker 3: anti Semitism, and uh, you know, but people have taken
Speaker 3: the wrong lesson from that. They think the lesson is
Speaker 3: that we should not be comfortable with big, strong, you know,
Speaker 3: powerful people of pressing and harming smaller, weaker people. That's
Speaker 3: not the lesson, you know. The and in the old days,
Speaker 3: when you had three channels, you know, in a couple
Speaker 3: of newspapers, whatever, there would have been like somebody in
Speaker 3: the hierarchy, like before it got to the level of
Speaker 3: like mass public attention, that would be like somebody, shut
Speaker 3: this bitch up. Like no, that just doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 3: You know. You have this ordeal of civility just playing
Speaker 3: out in public. I mean, you have guys like John
Speaker 3: pod Horetz, who's one of my favorite kind of just
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't, I don't. I'm the type
Speaker 3: of person I don't generally like to like go at
Speaker 3: people personally. Uh when I'm want to Joe, but I
Speaker 3: can't stand that prick dude, Like he's a guy who
Speaker 3: Like there was this woman she was like a TV chef,
Speaker 3: like I can't remember her name, TV celebrity chef type,
Speaker 3: you know. Uh no it wasn't Rachel Ray, but it
Speaker 3: was somebody else and she made a I mean just
Speaker 3: like a miss Rachel type, just anodyne comment about like,
Speaker 3: wouldn't it be great if all of this destruction in
Speaker 3: Gaza stopped, you know, something, just completely inoffensive. And he
Speaker 3: said he just comes out he doesn't know this woman
Speaker 3: all right, and I don't know who her father or
Speaker 3: brothers or husband are, where the fuck they are, But
Speaker 3: he goes on in public and just says to this woman, well,
Speaker 3: maybe you should keep your mouth shut, you anti Semitic
Speaker 3: fucking piece of shit. And it's like Jesus, like, what
Speaker 3: kind of a human being like just goes in public
Speaker 3: and speaks to a woman that he doesn't know like that,
Speaker 3: you know. And the answer is somebody like John pod
Speaker 3: Horritz and all of his friends and they just can't
Speaker 3: help themselves.
Speaker 5: And so.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's in your DNA.
Speaker 3: Have you seen. Yeah, there was somebody passing around. It
Speaker 3: was from YouTube and just other other platforms. The number
Speaker 3: of subscribers by month that Daily Wire and Ben Shapiro
Speaker 3: were gaining it is like over the last year, and
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, the first six months are all
Speaker 3: like gaining this many, gaining this many, and then around
Speaker 3: April May. It's just like losing this many, losing this many,
Speaker 3: just straight on through. I sent it to Tucker last
Speaker 3: night and we were laughing about it because he's right, like,
Speaker 3: these people are shooting themselves in the foot. All you
Speaker 3: have to do is put a microphone in front of
Speaker 3: them and let him speak for themselves, and the whole
Speaker 3: thing unravels.
Speaker 1: Well, the Mark Levin tirade that I believe, I believe
Speaker 1: Tucker played this specific tirade that I saw him go on,
Speaker 1: and to your point about the ordeal of civility, like
Speaker 1: the Ordeal of civility is basically over like because the
Speaker 1: whole point of that book is is that these arguments
Speaker 1: are their way of obfuskating this like racial ethnic animal
Speaker 1: that's like undermining or underpinning excuse me, all of their
Speaker 1: philosophies and their theories and how it's really just ethnic
Speaker 1: grievances that's gone now because Mark Levine was just like,
Speaker 1: you people want to kill Jews, you want to genocide us,
Speaker 1: and it's not going to happen. You couldn't do it
Speaker 1: before and you're not gonna be able to do it now.
Speaker 1: And who is this resonating with? I mean, what person
Speaker 1: listening to that young person in particular, but even also
Speaker 1: even boomers like this doesn't even Mike Savage, who was
Speaker 1: like remember him, did you ever listen to Michael Savage?
Speaker 1: He was just a vicious pro war like genocide.
Speaker 2: Iraqis right.
Speaker 1: He never even said things like this like we are
Speaker 1: so far beyond even THO.
Speaker 7: He's Michael Savage. I forget what he calls. He's been
Speaker 7: ripping on Mark Levin lately because he realizes the damage
Speaker 7: that Mark Levin is doing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, That's exactly my point. I didn't even know that.
Speaker 6: Well, this is kind of like what was happening in Weimar,
Speaker 6: where you had like the German Jews who had been
Speaker 6: there for Nerot makes difference, you know, six hundred years,
Speaker 6: four hundred years. They're screaming at the top of their lungs.
Speaker 6: I mean, don't get me wrong, like a German Jewish
Speaker 6: owned media company is screaming at newly formed you know,
Speaker 6: Eastern European Jewish company media companies as the only media
Speaker 6: conversation happening in Germany, I mean, is a problem. But
Speaker 6: they're screaming at these guys. They're like, you need to
Speaker 6: like you need to settle the fuck down, or you
Speaker 6: are going to get us all in a whole bunch
Speaker 6: of trouble. And they said that right up until, like
Speaker 6: I think it was actually after Crystal Knock. They were
Speaker 6: still they were still trying to calm these fools down.
Speaker 6: But they don't listen. They have no you know, volume
Speaker 6: down button. It's only volume of is.
Speaker 1: No one wants to genocide them, No one is. They're
Speaker 1: not under attack. I mean the Dave Portnoy thing, what
Speaker 1: did what did the guy say, fuck Jews and he
Speaker 1: threw a penny at him, Like that's the only example
Speaker 1: they have of them being under a hack. You know,
Speaker 1: nobody is saying this, so I don't know who it's
Speaker 1: going to resonate with. And it's just uh, shooting themselves
Speaker 1: in the foot.
Speaker 7: Literally, it's literally what bringing people would do to Italians
Speaker 7: in New York or you know. I mean, it's that
Speaker 7: kind of stuff that those are kind of ethnic jokes
Speaker 7: that you would see in New York when I was
Speaker 7: growing up in New York, you know, and it would
Speaker 7: be taken as a as a joke. But the reason
Speaker 7: why it's not taken as a joke, and even the
Speaker 7: person who's doing it has some malice behind it is
Speaker 7: because it's become so they can't shut up. I mean,
Speaker 7: Dave Portnoy is one of those people, one of those
Speaker 7: same people who you criticize him a little bit on
Speaker 7: the smallest thing, and he starts screaming, you know, pogram
Speaker 7: and you just can't do you can't do that. There
Speaker 7: was some Zionist lady at the God what is this
Speaker 7: thing called the Jewish Federation of North America?
Speaker 6: She is something something we don't control everything, Yes, of
Speaker 6: North America.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, Sarah her work, she says she mourned that
Speaker 7: Western Jews reimagine Judaism as a Protestant style religion in
Speaker 7: order to integrate into Western society, rather than retaining a
Speaker 7: strong identity that's loyal to the state of Israel. She quoted,
Speaker 7: the problem is we're not just a religion. We're a nation, civilization, tribe, peoplehood,
Speaker 7: but most of all, we're a family. And so if
Speaker 7: you're a young person raised in America who thinks Judaism
Speaker 7: as a Protestant star religion, then the seven million Jews
Speaker 7: in Israel merely your co religionists. So my co religion
Speaker 7: is if I look at them, and they're not practicing
Speaker 7: my religion or social justice and certain prophetic values, then
Speaker 7: what do I have to do with them? But that's
Speaker 7: a category era the seven million people in Israel. They're
Speaker 7: not my co religionists, they're my siblings. But I think
Speaker 7: if you think of them as merely your co religionists,
Speaker 7: it's easy to slide into anti Zionism. You don't necessarily
Speaker 7: have a connection to them. You know, she's basically saying
Speaker 7: that the world should be lay the Jews are. The
Speaker 7: world should be loyal to Israel no matter what Israel does,
Speaker 7: not because that's the moral or truthful position, but because
Speaker 7: Israel is where their loyalties really, you know, where they belong.
Speaker 7: And it's like you read that and then you look
Speaker 7: at Biden's cabinet, or you look at all the people,
Speaker 7: you look at the person who's standing behind Donald Trump
Speaker 7: every time he speaks, and you're like, well, I mean, well,
Speaker 7: we don't have a country. Then we're being ruled by
Speaker 7: a people who have a loyalty, and not only a loyalty,
Speaker 7: but like an intense, like like blood tie to someplace else.
Speaker 7: You know, it's the same, it's the same reason why
Speaker 7: you know when when Ben Shapiro talks about sending money
Speaker 7: to Israel, he calls it aid, and when Americans want money,
Speaker 7: Ben Shapiro calls it welfare. Yeah, if you have somebody
Speaker 7: here who needs money, Ben Shapiro calls it welfare. But
Speaker 7: it's aid to Israel, and Israel won't survive. Yeah, fuck Americans,
Speaker 7: But fuck Americans who aren't going to survive unless they
Speaker 7: have unless they're able to get a check.
Speaker 6: You don't have a right to live where you were born.
Speaker 7: That's you want to know why Nick Foynes is becoming huge.
Speaker 7: That Yeah, that's it right there, because Nick is pointing
Speaker 7: out that you know, oh I can't I can't live
Speaker 7: where my ancestors were buried. But you don't even have it.
Speaker 7: Your your ties are all to Russia, you know, and
Speaker 7: yet you you know, yet you want us to send
Speaker 7: money to this place that you went and conquered, you know,
Speaker 7: a century ago.
Speaker 6: It makes me think about a quote from you gentiles,
Speaker 6: like we use will never be satisfied. It will never
Speaker 6: be enough, no matter what you do for us, something something,
Speaker 6: And then it ends with like where the destroyers of worlds?
Speaker 7: The craziest part of that whole book is it's just
Speaker 7: one long vetch because he didn't like the nineteen twenty
Speaker 7: four Immigration Act. This literally what that old? He says
Speaker 7: it at the end of the book.
Speaker 6: Yeah. So, but like there is no this is kind
Speaker 6: of a one way street. Historically has been a one
Speaker 6: way street. So I don't know what that looks like.
Speaker 6: Because America is a big place, but also this time,
Speaker 6: because of you know, the digital environment that what's her name,
Speaker 6: Sarah something or other that you were just quoting about,
Speaker 6: it's global. So I mean, how does this how does
Speaker 6: this end? Anybody?
Speaker 2: Go ahead?
Speaker 3: Darryl ah Man, I don't know. I you know, I mean,
Speaker 3: I think that one of the uh, one of the
Speaker 3: big benefits of global multipolarity coming back is that you
Speaker 3: have powers that are rising that can actually exert themselves
Speaker 3: on a global stage that are not beholden to this
Speaker 3: power and it you know, and it also might be
Speaker 3: this is maybe I guess I'm of a double mind
Speaker 3: on this. But also, like you know, the demographic transformations
Speaker 3: that are taking place in America are also something that
Speaker 3: like you said, with New York City, you know, I know,
Speaker 3: like the white liberals they're all voted for Mom, Donnie too.
Speaker 3: But there's you know, there are a lot of people
Speaker 3: there who who voted for him because they're just not
Speaker 3: subject to the to the Zionist propaganda regime that the
Speaker 3: rest of us have all been taken in by, you know,
Speaker 3: since World War Two. And you know, so these changes
Speaker 3: are taking place and they are losing power. You know,
Speaker 3: the concern whenever you have you know, a very solipsistic
Speaker 3: and arrogant ruling classes, we do that that that perceives
Speaker 3: any loss of control on their part as like a
Speaker 3: major emergency for everybody, for the whole world, that they
Speaker 3: could you know, really blow things up rather than go
Speaker 3: out peacefully. But you know, as far as yeah, far
Speaker 3: as how it ends, I mean.
Speaker 6: Well that was a plant Russia numbers, I mean generationally,
Speaker 6: and you see the way I mean, you have to think.
Speaker 3: Of it like this. And I'm coming from like a
Speaker 3: perspective of somebody who like, they threw the entire kitchen
Speaker 3: sink at me when I was on Tucker last year.
Speaker 3: They threw everything they had, I mean, just the Republican
Speaker 3: or rather the Congressional Jewish Caucus, the White House, the
Speaker 3: major papers. I mean just they.
Speaker 6: Threw the White House came after you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they issued they issued an official statement condemning
Speaker 3: me by name, and like you know, it did absolutely nothing.
Speaker 3: It did nothing to me, you know, and I'm just
Speaker 3: an ordinary person. So when you look now at somebody
Speaker 3: like Tucker, you know, there's a reason the terrified of Tucker,
Speaker 3: and they should be, because he sees what's going on.
Speaker 3: He knows what's going on. You know, he's very much
Speaker 3: like a like a gen X Christian American who is
Speaker 3: uncomfortable with you know, as he said in that Fuentes interview,
Speaker 3: like many times, you know, with any kind of ascribing
Speaker 3: of group guilt to people, all those things. He's very
Speaker 3: averse to all of that. But in terms of these
Speaker 3: people were talking about the specific people are who are
Speaker 3: pulling the levers on these things, he knows who they are,
Speaker 3: and he and they know that he knows who they are.
Speaker 3: And he's a conduit, you know to just normy conservatives
Speaker 3: who've never been able to hear this stuff before. And
Speaker 3: if they have heard it, you know, it triggered one
Speaker 3: of those deeply embedded emotional sort of you know trauma
Speaker 3: triggers they got watching shitters lit in sixth grade at school,
Speaker 3: you know, and so Tucker is similar to the way
Speaker 3: that like, by the time you got up to twenty sixteen,
Speaker 3: like most Republican voters were like, man, we are never
Speaker 3: going to get this albatross of the era war and
Speaker 3: everything off our fucking back or around from our neck.
Speaker 3: And but we can't like just denounce it or whatever,
Speaker 3: because then we're saying, oh, yeah, Nancy Pelosi was right
Speaker 3: all along and blah blah blah, we can't do that.
Speaker 3: But Trump came in and gave them permission to be like, no,
Speaker 3: that was all bullshit. And Tucker is doing that for
Speaker 3: a normy audience right now, and he understands, like, you know,
Speaker 3: one of the things that he understands very well is
Speaker 3: that all of us have a place in the ladder,
Speaker 3: you know, and that normany start at the bottom. You
Speaker 3: have to give them a low rung to grab onto,
Speaker 3: and then you have to give them a second rung
Speaker 3: to grab onto. There's a lot of people out there,
Speaker 3: you know, a lot of the annon's on Twitter and
Speaker 3: other places who they just they want anybody with any
Speaker 3: kind of a public profile to prove their bona fides
Speaker 3: by going out there and just you know, screaming the
Speaker 3: most obsig, it's going to get them banned, like just
Speaker 3: to show that they're really down for the cause or whatever.
Speaker 3: I always tell these people, you don't understand how propaganda works,
Speaker 3: you know. Somebody like Tucker understands that his job is
Speaker 3: to point people to point Pete. His job is to
Speaker 3: take people who are bored with Matt Walsh and send
Speaker 3: him to me. My job is to take people who
Speaker 3: get bored with me and send them to Pete. You know.
Speaker 3: And when I hear I've told Pete this before, when
Speaker 3: I hear people like or see people online being like,
Speaker 3: you know, I used to listen to Darryl, but then
Speaker 3: I realized he's just a cuck faggot who won't say
Speaker 3: any of the real shit. So now I only listen
Speaker 3: to Thomas. I'm like, yeah, another, and like, I don't
Speaker 3: take that personally at all, because I'm comfortable with my place,
Speaker 3: you know, on the ladder, and we need all of
Speaker 3: those pieces. I was talking to Oran McIntyre about this
Speaker 3: the other day. He came out and he said something
Speaker 3: that was more strident than you're used to hearing from
Speaker 3: oron from Oran about the people we're talking about. And
Speaker 3: I didn't go in and you know, like concern troll
Speaker 3: him or anything. But I got into his DMS and
Speaker 3: because you know, we're pretty good buddies by this point,
Speaker 3: and I was like, dude, just be careful. We need
Speaker 3: you exactly where you are, Like you know, we don't
Speaker 3: need you like coming over even further to our So
Speaker 3: like all that is great, like do that internally, but
Speaker 3: in terms of the propaganda process, we need you exactly
Speaker 3: where you are. You know, you play a very important
Speaker 3: role in this whole thing. So and he understands that,
Speaker 3: and uh, you know, just all of us always have
Speaker 3: to keep that in mind. You know, like this is
Speaker 3: a process and you have to like normal people like look,
Speaker 3: I I Americans are basically decent people. You know, like
Speaker 3: foreigners who come over here, they all say the same thing,
Speaker 3: like you know, you just they're they're always surprised by
Speaker 3: just sort of how open Americans are. They'll just start
Speaker 3: talking to you about their family and their whatever, like
Speaker 3: the day you meet them kind of thing, and uh,
Speaker 3: you know, they're kind. They're the kind of people who
Speaker 3: you know, they don't they're not comfortable feeling like they're
Speaker 3: doing something that like really goes that that that goes
Speaker 3: against like a deeply held principle that they have. You know,
Speaker 3: they don't want to be an immoral person. They don't
Speaker 3: want to feel like they're being unjust to anybody or
Speaker 3: any group. And none of this, you know, none of
Speaker 3: the things that we're talking about are unjust to anybody
Speaker 3: or any group.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 3: It's just about you know, offering them, presenting these ideas
Speaker 3: to them in a way that works around those triggers
Speaker 3: you know that got embedded in them in fourth grade.
Speaker 1: Hey, I want to bring something up to you real quick, Arrol,
Speaker 1: because you mentioned Tucker and I've been thinking about this
Speaker 1: a lot lately, especially since he had Fuentes on. Okay,
Speaker 1: we've got several instances over the last century of these
Speaker 1: witch hunts of you know, the Jewish lobby, the Jewish media.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say Zionists, but some of these things
Speaker 1: go back before Israel was a state, so we can't
Speaker 1: really call it Zionist. Where they go after Charles Lindberg
Speaker 1: and they completely like disappear him, they totally take him
Speaker 1: down and he's no longer a factor. They go after
Speaker 1: Sam Francis, they go after Pat Buchanan, and the neo
Speaker 1: cons went ham on pap Buchanan, And if you go
Speaker 1: back and read their you know, editorials that they wrote
Speaker 1: for the National Review, et cetera, about Pat Buchanan, they
Speaker 1: were saying the same things then as they're saying about
Speaker 1: you know, anti Zionists.
Speaker 2: Now it's like this, It's like they have a playbook.
Speaker 1: And I mean, I've become convinced that they actually do
Speaker 1: have a real, actual playbook that they all refer to,
Speaker 1: because they all say the same things even twenty five
Speaker 1: years later. Now they're trying to do that to Tucker.
Speaker 1: And I don't really understand how Tucker's network works, but
Speaker 1: as far as I know, it's completely independent.
Speaker 2: So they're going after him.
Speaker 1: They're trying to bring him down in the same way
Speaker 1: they brought these they brought these other guys down. I
Speaker 1: don't see how it can work. I don't see how
Speaker 1: they can do it. He's not they're not cutting off
Speaker 1: his funding. They're not kicking him out of the editorial
Speaker 1: board of a national magazine. They can't fire him from
Speaker 1: Fox News. They already did that. And look at him now,
Speaker 1: I mean even on AXI he's huge, but he's on YouTube,
Speaker 1: he's all over the internet, and even if they could
Speaker 1: somehow get him off those platforms, which it looks like
Speaker 1: they're not going to, he would still have the Tucker
Speaker 1: Carlson Network.
Speaker 2: So I think it's not gonna work this time.
Speaker 8: I mean, I've be that their only way of getting
Speaker 8: rid of him, and they do this to a lot
Speaker 8: of our guys, And it's something I counsel against all
Speaker 8: the time, like any time I can. I is they
Speaker 8: know that the only way they can deal with him
Speaker 8: is to provoke him into starting to say things that
Speaker 8: are gonna make your sort of like nor me who's
Speaker 8: just dipping their toe in sort of like pull back
Speaker 8: and be like, oh, yeah, I don't know about this,
Speaker 8: Like they know that that the whole point.
Speaker 3: He said this in a few of his episodes. You
Speaker 3: might have said it in his interview with me recently,
Speaker 3: that their goal is to make you hate them and
Speaker 3: then to act hateful, hatefully toward them, and to do
Speaker 3: it in public in ways that people see that'll make
Speaker 3: them withdraw from you. That's the goal, and you can't
Speaker 3: give into that. You know, you have to be aware
Speaker 3: that that's the game they're playing.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I'll say I'll say this, this is something
Speaker 7: I think that's really important. If you're if you're consumed
Speaker 7: by hate, you can't build anything. You're stuck in one place.
Speaker 7: You can't move forward. That's why there's so many people,
Speaker 7: so many of these ANNs are stuck on Twitter and
Speaker 7: won't get off Twitter and build, build what comes next
Speaker 7: because they're consumed by hate. Now, you have an adversary,
Speaker 7: and you deal understand who your adversary is and structure
Speaker 7: your life so that that adversary you can mitigate as
Speaker 7: much of the negative consequences of that adversary as you can.
Speaker 7: And that's it. You can't get consumed by hate. You
Speaker 7: will end up saying stupid shit and then you know, yeah,
Speaker 7: I've been anonymous on the internet. It's no fun. It's
Speaker 7: no fun. You're just yeah, I mean, I may have.
Speaker 3: Told you about this, Pete, but you know, I know.
Speaker 3: Gu I'm friends with a guy who he's currently getting
Speaker 3: protested processed out of the Navy. He was a commander five,
Speaker 3: graduated second in his class at the academy. He's a
Speaker 3: Navy doctor. He was a candidate for the astronaut program
Speaker 3: and came up second among the candidates only the Johnny Kim,
Speaker 3: which is a silver Star winning Navy seal that used
Speaker 3: to work for Jocko and Ramadi who now is a
Speaker 3: Harvard educated doctor, and he's just a freaking super candidate, right,
Speaker 3: this guy came in second to him. This buddy of
Speaker 3: mine was on track to be an admiral. I mean,
Speaker 3: he was gonna be one of our guys like up
Speaker 3: at the flag level in the Navy. And he started
Speaker 3: listening to you know, TRS podcast. He starts go, it
Speaker 3: is a super smart guy obviously, starts listening to a
Speaker 3: lot of these just you know, sort of more uncontrolled
Speaker 3: kinds of content that we have out there on our side,
Speaker 3: and he just did the he did the thing that
Speaker 3: we have seen happen to so many people where you
Speaker 3: like literally couldn't bring him into mixed company anymore, because
Speaker 3: ten minutes into any conversation with your grandmother, he's going
Speaker 3: to start talking about the Jews or something. And it
Speaker 3: got to the and it got to that point where
Speaker 3: he couldn't keep his fucking mouth shut in front of
Speaker 3: his boss, in front of an admiral. And now he's
Speaker 3: getting processed out of the Navy, and you know he's forgetting,
Speaker 3: I mean forget about like just having a guy in
Speaker 3: his position who understands where we're coming from. It's a
Speaker 3: guy with a wife and kid, and now you know
Speaker 3: he's going to be in a in a very just difficult,
Speaker 3: difficult situation, you know, coming out of the Navy on
Speaker 3: a on like other than honorable kind of circumstances, and
Speaker 3: so like, those are the kind of things we really
Speaker 3: have to avoid just on a personal level, but also
Speaker 3: just because it takes you out of the game when
Speaker 3: you do that, you know, and and it just makes
Speaker 3: you so predictable and so reactive, so easily provoked by
Speaker 3: the enemy. You know, they know somebody who is full
Speaker 3: of anger, full of rage and hate. They know exactly
Speaker 3: what to say to get you to freak out, just
Speaker 3: the same way that you know. I made this point
Speaker 3: to h to Scott the other day on our Provoked podcast,
Speaker 3: Scott Horton. When I was trying to I was just
Speaker 3: mounting a defense of of the groupers to a degree
Speaker 3: where you know, I was trying to explain to him
Speaker 3: that like for years, these guys have been in an
Speaker 3: extremely asymmetric war right where the people that they're combating
Speaker 3: can destroy their lives. They out them, they get them fired,
Speaker 3: from their job. They put them on massive websites like
Speaker 3: SPLC and ADL, the hate Watch. You know, that just
Speaker 3: is there permanently, and this is the first they make sure.
Speaker 3: It's the first thing that comes up if you google
Speaker 3: their name when they're trying to rent a house or
Speaker 3: get a job or something like that. These are all
Speaker 3: the tools. They're canceling, their bank accounts, their credit cards.
Speaker 3: These are the tools that their enemies had to use
Speaker 3: against them. And what did they have at their disposal?
Speaker 3: What weapons did they have? Well, they know that they
Speaker 3: can say a few things. If you make a comment
Speaker 3: to you that is going to trigger you and pull
Speaker 3: you down to their level and make you look like
Speaker 3: an asshole. And so that's what they do. You know,
Speaker 3: you can destroy them by getting them fired from their
Speaker 3: job and putting them on the hate watch website. They
Speaker 3: can call you a racial slur, a jew, whatever, and
Speaker 3: watch you freak out and knack like a more on online.
Speaker 3: And that's the weapon that they had to fight back with,
Speaker 3: you know, And you could you could say whatever you
Speaker 3: want about that, but that's what was going on. And so, uh,
Speaker 3: you know, I totally understand where a lot of that
Speaker 3: comes from, but at a time now where we're really like,
Speaker 3: we've got a lot of momentum behind us, and I
Speaker 3: don't want to overplay that too much. We've still got
Speaker 3: a long, long hill to climb, a lot of obstacles
Speaker 3: to overcome. Uh, but you know, we're we're at a
Speaker 3: place now where they can no longer they can no
Speaker 3: longer fight us on those asymmetric terms so much. You know,
Speaker 3: they have to actually meet us in the field. And
Speaker 3: you see how that's going for him. It's not going well.
Speaker 3: And so you know, being in a in a more
Speaker 3: in more even combat like that, it requires different tactics,
Speaker 3: you know, and and and people just have to keep
Speaker 3: that in mind.
Speaker 7: All right, I got to cut out. I want to
Speaker 7: thank Darryl for joining us. Awesome, thank you, and I'll
Speaker 7: be in touch soon. And I got to go record.
Speaker 7: I got to go record episode eighty eight, two hundred
Speaker 7: years together.
Speaker 6: Amazing.
Speaker 7: Thank you, Darryl. Appreciate you.
Speaker 6: Take care, guys, make it easy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that might be so.
Speaker 6: I can go on for another forty five.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I might have to cut it off
Speaker 1: to Daryl, Are you good on time?
Speaker 3: No, not really, I've actually got to get going here soon,
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna do a few more minutes if there's
Speaker 3: something you want to talk about, but I gotta get going.
Speaker 6: There is one thing. I think, it's about American identity
Speaker 6: going forward, because the biggest problem that we have both rhetorically,
Speaker 6: you can see it in guys like Vance, guys like Tucker,
Speaker 6: is when they are interacting with comments like the kind
Speaker 6: that Mark Livin and Ben Shapiro are nice enough to
Speaker 6: give us all the time about advocating about Jews, advocating
Speaker 6: for Jews, why it's necessary, and why advocating for Israel
Speaker 6: is really the only logical, you know, position for someone
Speaker 6: of their ethno religious persuasion. But when guys like Tucker
Speaker 6: will point out like why it's wrong and why x
Speaker 6: y Z policy that the administration is doing is wrong,
Speaker 6: and why America you know, why x y Z is
Speaker 6: bad and you know, bad for America, that they can't
Speaker 6: when they say like, oh, well, these things are we
Speaker 6: need to do these things for Americans, they seem to
Speaker 6: struggle with the ability of pointing out who that is right.
Speaker 6: So if I go to like China and I ask
Speaker 6: a Chinese man, what is an American? What does he
Speaker 6: look like? The Chinese man will tell me same thing.
Speaker 6: If I go to India, i go to Africa, they'll
Speaker 6: tell me what an African or the African will tell
Speaker 6: me what an American is. And no one in our
Speaker 6: political apparatus, you know, on our side, is able to
Speaker 6: tell me what an American is. So when they say
Speaker 6: they want to do all of these things for the
Speaker 6: benefit of Americans, they seem to be enable to attach
Speaker 6: that to even an idea of a people group because
Speaker 6: you say, like, well, who is an American? Well, everyone's
Speaker 6: an American. And I think this is probably one of
Speaker 6: the biggest shackles holding back both the direction of the
Speaker 6: directing of policy but also the directing of the rhetorical
Speaker 6: fight we're in. So I'd love to hear your take
Speaker 6: on what that would look like. Yeah, what is an
Speaker 6: American identity?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an incredible I mean, I'll say, first of all,
Speaker 3: I think we're still kind of in the process of
Speaker 3: that ethnogenesis, so like you, but it's it's really like
Speaker 3: the question of questions for us at this point, and
Speaker 3: people who are from even just a generation a little
Speaker 3: bit behind us, I think have a lot more difficulty
Speaker 3: with it than we do. It certainly than people who
Speaker 3: are younger than us, do you know. I mean, if
Speaker 3: you think about it, like for somebody like Tucker, I mean,
Speaker 3: it's partly moral ethical, but it's also just partly pragmatic.
Speaker 3: And I understand this part of it like very well
Speaker 3: that he looks at the situation and says, look, man,
Speaker 3: if we start talking just about race, like if you
Speaker 3: look at the like the the the the trajectory of demographics,
Speaker 3: if we go into that kind of a you know,
Speaker 3: just say again like fortress mentality, where we just withdraw
Speaker 3: into like racial identity purely, like purely, that we're gonna
Speaker 3: end up in a country that, uh, you know where
Speaker 3: where the majority populations are allied against us, and that
Speaker 3: we can't really provide any kind of leadership for now.
Speaker 3: And and I'm sympathetic to that, to that, to that
Speaker 3: idea for sure, because it is I mean, we do
Speaker 3: have to deal with the world as we find it
Speaker 3: right now, and we also have to you know, I mean,
Speaker 3: look like I've I've brought this up before, I think
Speaker 3: in a in an article for I don't remember who,
Speaker 3: but you know, Thomas talked about how this ideal of
Speaker 3: like the white American Obviously, you go back to the
Speaker 3: very beginning, and people knew that African slaves had darker
Speaker 3: skin than them, and they were black, and they were
Speaker 3: white like. People understood that on some level, but in
Speaker 3: terms of like the operative elements of their identity outside
Speaker 3: the South, like people were Catholic or Protestant, they were
Speaker 3: Irish or Italian or Jewish or Anglo, and the idea
Speaker 3: of you know, just us being white people was again
Speaker 3: they were aware of it, but it wasn't it wasn't
Speaker 3: the operative part of their identity because it would have
Speaker 3: been like going to Norway back in nineteen fifty and
Speaker 3: making a big you know, I'm a Norwegian kind of thing.
Speaker 3: It was just everybody was Norwegian. There's no reason to
Speaker 3: even have it enter into your consciousness. For the most part,
Speaker 3: the things that the differentiations that actually made a difference
Speaker 3: to them were things that applied in their local community,
Speaker 3: you know, Irish, Catholic, Italian, Catholic, Jewish, whatever. And you know,
Speaker 3: it was only with the great migration of the blacks
Speaker 3: out of the South, but you had all of these
Speaker 3: dipate white groups who were confronted with this, with this
Speaker 3: alien force that was really wreaking havoc on their neighborhoods
Speaker 3: and in their lives, their community lives. And then after
Speaker 3: they got drove out, driven out into the suburbs where
Speaker 3: you're an Italian guy who has an Irish neighbor and
Speaker 3: a Jewish neighbor, and you know, there's the old Italian
Speaker 3: Catholic church is forty five minutes across town, and only
Speaker 3: old ladies who still live in the neighborhood go there,
Speaker 3: and you don't go there anymore. Like that, you had
Speaker 3: that sort of like all of those people begin to
Speaker 3: melt into a white population. But that's something that's like
Speaker 3: pretty recent, you know, in terms of having that as
Speaker 3: an operative part of any identity. And we have, like
Speaker 3: anybody above the age of about forty went through at
Speaker 3: least twelve years of indoctrination in school, an entire lifetime
Speaker 3: of indoctrination by the media telling them that anytime that
Speaker 3: part of their identity starts to assert itself, they need
Speaker 3: to put themselves in check because not only is it
Speaker 3: immoral danger, it's going to be personally dangerous for you
Speaker 3: if that gets if that gets to be too much
Speaker 3: of what you're thinking about. And so you know, it's
Speaker 3: very hard for people a little older than us to
Speaker 3: really to overcome that and figure out a way too,
Speaker 3: you know, preserve that element of racial identity which is
Speaker 3: going to become. It's just it's going to be important
Speaker 3: going forward, and you know, in the world and in
Speaker 3: the United States, but also being willing to branch out
Speaker 3: and have relationships, have a sort of you know, maybe
Speaker 3: even like a you could say, like a like a
Speaker 3: not geographically demarketed in the same way, but the way
Speaker 3: Switzerland has like an ethnic federation in a way you know,
Speaker 3: where you have these different groups, different people, and you know,
Speaker 3: the any in the in the people who are you know,
Speaker 3: who are willing and and and desiring to be part
Speaker 3: of the project you know of America. We can work
Speaker 3: with them, We can provide leadership to them, We can
Speaker 3: work with their leaders and give them their respect that
Speaker 3: do you know, as people who are here and who
Speaker 3: want to be a part of the project and who
Speaker 3: contribute to it, give them a respect without necessarily having
Speaker 3: to just melt together into like some new hemispheric race
Speaker 3: or something, which I just don't think is going to
Speaker 3: happen regardless. I mean, and you know, so I mean
Speaker 3: if you think about it, like that period after the
Speaker 3: Second World War up to about maybe the JFK assassination
Speaker 3: or so, like that was probably the closest we came
Speaker 3: to having like a real American ethnogenesis on like a
Speaker 3: national level where you had like a people who really
Speaker 3: felt like, you know, there was something just meaningfully American
Speaker 3: things that they were, you know, that that everybody was
Speaker 3: proud of, even if it was based on a lot
Speaker 3: of propaganda in the World wars and things like that,
Speaker 3: but that that really brought them together and united them
Speaker 3: as a people. You know, I think about how you know,
Speaker 3: the city of the town of Vicksburgh never celebrated the
Speaker 3: fourth of July after it was conquered during the Civil
Speaker 3: War until July forth nineteen forty four, after the D
Speaker 3: Day landing, and it was just you know, again propaganda
Speaker 3: or not like we had had by nineteen forty four,
Speaker 3: twenty years or really like thirty years because immigration kind
Speaker 3: of you know, really came to a trickle when the
Speaker 3: First World War broke out. It wasn't just in nineteen
Speaker 3: twenty four, and so they had thirty years at that point,
Speaker 3: the entire generation had been able to grow up into
Speaker 3: working age adults who were all born in America. We
Speaker 3: hadn't didn't have like a new generation. Is the first
Speaker 3: time it's really happened in American history. You know, you
Speaker 3: have seventeen seventy six and basically within a generation you've
Speaker 3: got Germans and Irish flooding. In a generation later it's
Speaker 3: Italians and Jews and others from Eastern and southern Europe.
Speaker 3: But then after that petered out with the First World War,
Speaker 3: that kind of the overseas immigration kind of came to
Speaker 3: an end, and by the time you get up to
Speaker 3: the end of the Second World War really been almost
Speaker 3: thirty years. But of course by that point is you know,
Speaker 3: we replaced that, We replaced that with the great migration
Speaker 3: of blacks out of the South, and so that really
Speaker 3: did like contribute to an ethnogenesis among American whites during
Speaker 3: that period. And you know, you wonder what might have
Speaker 3: happened if, you know, if we hadn't passed heart Seller
Speaker 3: in nineteen sixty five and we had figured out a
Speaker 3: way to integrate, you know, blacks into the country in
Speaker 3: a way that you know, didn't place them in such
Speaker 3: a hostile relationship to it. For the most part, and like,
Speaker 3: you know, you wonder, but again, like this is the
Speaker 3: world that that we got to live with now, and
Speaker 3: it's much much more difficult, you know, Like Anglos had
Speaker 3: to renegotiate American identity with Germans and Irish, not easy
Speaker 3: given the time, you know, I mean, they were very
Speaker 3: different and often hostile peoples. You had to do it
Speaker 3: again with the Italians and Jews and others in the
Speaker 3: late nineteenth early twentieth century. But still, you know, this
Speaker 3: was something that, compared to what we're facing now, was
Speaker 3: pretty doable. Now when we're dealing with people who are
Speaker 3: you know, not just a different denomination of Christianity or
Speaker 3: even you know, in the case of the Jews, like
Speaker 3: people who are sort of part of the Biblical tradition
Speaker 3: or something. We're just dealing with a huge assortment of
Speaker 3: radically different culturally, racially.
Speaker 7: You know all.
Speaker 3: And we're doing it in at a time when you know,
Speaker 3: that old Anglo leadership superstructure that had always guided this
Speaker 3: country is no longer in place, and we have just
Speaker 3: this sort of this this over built bureaucratic system that
Speaker 3: has replaced any meaningful, coherent leadership class that is open
Speaker 3: for anybody who kind of knows how to Any organized
Speaker 3: minority who knows how to work the controls can take
Speaker 3: control of the ship and drive it for their own purposes,
Speaker 3: you know. And so these are very difficult circumstances that
Speaker 3: like we didn't have to deal with when we were
Speaker 3: trying to rein when we were trying to integrate the
Speaker 3: European immigrants. Over the years, figuring out how to do
Speaker 3: it again, and I just think that we have to
Speaker 3: be able to reach out and uh and create relationships
Speaker 3: with the civilized minorities that are out there. You know,
Speaker 3: We're just we're not going to accomplish it without their cooperation,
Speaker 3: without their help. And I think that you know, they,
Speaker 3: like I said earlier, you know, you ask like you
Speaker 3: talk to a lot of latinas, you talk to like
Speaker 3: Arab women, you talk to a lot of minority women,
Speaker 3: and it's seen as like a status symbol to be
Speaker 3: with a white guy. It still is to this day.
Speaker 3: There are a lot of these people, these groups that
Speaker 3: would be perfectly willing to to to to accept the
Speaker 3: leadership of heritage Americans in this project of you know,
Speaker 3: sort of civilizing the rest of the country and dealing
Speaker 3: with the people that can't be civilized, but we do
Speaker 3: need their help and cooperation. I very much believe that.
Speaker 6: I think I think that that goes out saying just
Speaker 6: because they're simply even to get the ball rolling, you're
Speaker 6: going to need their cooperation. The thing that worries me, though,
Speaker 6: is because of the people above fifty or above forty
Speaker 6: to your point, or inable to articulate in or really
Speaker 6: cognize it, because not only do they not allow themselves
Speaker 6: to say it, they quickly not allow themselves to think it.
Speaker 6: Eighty percent of the tax dollars that fund the government
Speaker 6: are paid by people that look like you and me.
Speaker 6: So I don't think this will happen now, but eventually
Speaker 6: it will. The people that pay for the government, I think,
Speaker 6: will only allow the government to work against their own
Speaker 6: particular and broad self interest, which none of the organized
Speaker 6: minorities seem to really give a shit about. It's kind
Speaker 6: of that like like you said earlier about like you know,
Speaker 6: taking the silverware, and you know, even the doorknobs off
Speaker 6: of a sinking ship don't really particularly care one way
Speaker 6: or the other. But the people that our politicians are
Speaker 6: unable to articulate existing are the only people that fund
Speaker 6: the government. So you have this type of Mexican standoff
Speaker 6: where one party doesn't realize that they have a gun.
Speaker 6: If any moment in time these people decided to say,
Speaker 6: stop paying for a government that didn't service them, it
Speaker 6: would collapse literally overnight. I mean, the treasury bonds that
Speaker 6: underpin the global financial system are basically promisory notes on
Speaker 6: the future contributions of that class of people. So I mean,
Speaker 6: it could get really shitty if it goes that way.
Speaker 6: And I mean the only way it would probably go
Speaker 6: that way is if the administration lost the midterms and
Speaker 6: then lost the election, which I think is a very
Speaker 6: real risk because of their inability to articulate the people
Speaker 6: that vote for them. Right, Black males don't vote, Black
Speaker 6: females vote almost entirely left. It doesn't really matter how
Speaker 6: many of them you went over. There not a large
Speaker 6: demographic Hispanics. I think, to your point is a coalition
Speaker 6: that that you can build the type of commonality at
Speaker 6: least enough for everyone to vote the same way. But
Speaker 6: I think this inability to recognize that our voters are
Speaker 6: almost entirely white people at this stage in the game,
Speaker 6: and particularly because of the acceleration in rhetoric that guys
Speaker 6: like Shapiro and guys like Mark Levin are doing in
Speaker 6: a negative sense, it's actually the Jews that are accelerating this,
Speaker 6: this group of people finally, as the leftoid say, getting
Speaker 6: racial consciousness. So I think, like, I mean, look what
Speaker 6: happened in Virginia and look what's about to happen in Florida. Right, Like,
Speaker 6: the leadership of the ostensible conservative parties are adverse of
Speaker 6: either a articulating who they actually serve who votes for them,
Speaker 6: and be running candidates that represent those people. And I
Speaker 6: think unless this has figured out in the short term,
Speaker 6: I think it's enough to lose the midterms, especially with
Speaker 6: like the repetitive comments out of the administration about how
Speaker 6: much we need H one b's or whatever. I don't
Speaker 6: think they're aware of how much ground they're losing between
Speaker 6: the only voter base that actually votes for them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the real importance and significance of Trump and
Speaker 3: why it's important I tell this to people who you know,
Speaker 3: even are very suspicious of jd. Vance because of his
Speaker 3: tel ties or whatever. That forget about the man himself
Speaker 3: and whether you trust him. Like, the significance of these
Speaker 3: people is providing us with enough time, enough cover, for
Speaker 3: enough time to talk to each other and organize with
Speaker 3: each other without having the FBI sicked on us. Like
Speaker 3: that's their certificate and that's really all we need from
Speaker 3: them at this point. You know, you're not going to
Speaker 3: take somebody. I think Tucker is fifty six people guys
Speaker 3: who were fifty six, Like, they don't they don't have
Speaker 3: like revolutionary changes in their moral compass or any of
Speaker 3: those kind of things, you know, like scientific paradigms at
Speaker 3: what's an old quote like that, nobody changes their minds.
Speaker 3: Like the people who believe one thing just retire and
Speaker 3: die off, and they get replaced with people who understand
Speaker 3: the new paradigm better. And that's why that system that
Speaker 3: I was talking about earlier, that is just important, you know,
Speaker 3: like getting somebody getting some of the older generations, somebody
Speaker 3: like Tucker to speak directly to the things that we
Speaker 3: think need to be spoken to, like a I think,
Speaker 3: you know, just for propaganda purposes. That's just not as product.
Speaker 3: But it's you're not gonna not gonna be able to
Speaker 3: do that. You know. What you can do is get
Speaker 3: somebody like him to open up enough space for somebody
Speaker 3: like me to operate, and then somebody like me to
Speaker 3: open up enough space for you know, people who can
Speaker 3: be more direct to operate. And if we can continue
Speaker 3: to take advantage of that in the time we have,
Speaker 3: you know, if we can get VANCE in there for
Speaker 3: eight years. Yeah, I mean this is and again forget
Speaker 3: about like what you think VANCE is gonna accomplish. Anybody
Speaker 3: out there who doesn't like it, I don't care about that.
Speaker 3: That's fine. That gives us twelve years of not having
Speaker 3: you know, the IRS and FBI and everything else on
Speaker 3: our back, of not having the federal government probably going
Speaker 3: ham trying to force Elon Musk to sell Twitter, you know,
Speaker 3: and closing down that channel of communication. It gives us
Speaker 3: twelve years to you know, be able to to have
Speaker 3: in person meetings and talk to each other face to
Speaker 3: face and get to know each other without having our
Speaker 3: groups infiltrated by you know, uh informants the FBI. That's
Speaker 3: the kind of work that needs to be done right now.
Speaker 3: And that's the work that we are able to accomplish,
Speaker 3: whatever anybody thinks about the Trump administration or future Dvant administration.
Speaker 3: And when you add to that the fact that you know,
Speaker 3: this happened to a great degree, like in the Reagan
Speaker 3: and first Bush term twelve years, you know, the Republicans
Speaker 3: held power, and we can look back and say, oh,
Speaker 3: they were forget their politics, right. What happened during that period, though,
Speaker 3: is a lot of the opposition financial networks that had
Speaker 3: existed in the sixties and seventies, a lot of the
Speaker 3: just sort of the ideological infrastructure that had supported the
Speaker 3: left up until like through the nineteen seventies, Like all
Speaker 3: of that stuff just evaporated because they were out of
Speaker 3: power for twelve years, and so money went elsewhere. A
Speaker 3: lot of the people who were running a lot of
Speaker 3: those institutions all retired and got replaced with new people.
Speaker 3: So that you get to the nineteen nineties and the
Speaker 3: Democrats basically had to run a guy uh To to
Speaker 3: win the presidency that was basically a Republican in the
Speaker 3: nineteen eighties, you know, and uh, you know, if we
Speaker 3: if we have twelve years to work with where these
Speaker 3: people are out of power, you know, they're all like
Speaker 3: the Chuck Schumer is going to retire. A lot of
Speaker 3: these people are going to retire, and a lot of
Speaker 3: the talent they have at like the lower levels. You know,
Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer's a moral monster find but like these people
Speaker 3: are at least political animals who knew how to operate
Speaker 3: and knew how to get their way. You know, a
Speaker 3: lot of times Ben Shapiro is not going to be
Speaker 3: able to replace, you know, just or just look at
Speaker 3: the uh, look at the just the generational difference between
Speaker 3: the neo Conservatives. You know, say what you want about
Speaker 3: Norm pod Hortz and Irving Crystal. These were very intelligent guys.
Speaker 3: Their kids are just these retard fail sons who like
Speaker 3: are just embarrassment to their own families, you know. And
Speaker 3: and that's a lot of the Democrat Party. And you know,
Speaker 3: they have themselves to thank for that to a large degree,
Speaker 3: just because you know, one of the best things it
Speaker 3: really happened in the Democrat Party over the course of
Speaker 3: the Obama administration is that the Clinton's, the Clinton machine
Speaker 3: just completely cleaned off their whole bench, like they because
Speaker 3: they didn't want a repeat of twenty eight in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3: They didn't want anybody to step up who was really
Speaker 3: going to challenge Hillary Clinton. And so when you got
Speaker 3: to the end of the Obama administration, the Democrats had
Speaker 3: no bench whatsoever. I mean, you look at the Republican
Speaker 3: primaries in twenty sixteen, and you had like probably like
Speaker 3: at least half a dozen, probably ten viable candidates, you know,
Speaker 3: forgetting about their politics or whatever, like ten guys who
Speaker 3: probably could have run a competent presidential campaign. The Democrats
Speaker 3: they got nobody, you know, they got nobody, and you know,
Speaker 3: as their financial networks just start to migrate or evaporate,
Speaker 3: because you know, they're just not in power, as a
Speaker 3: lot of the competent leadership that they have left starts
Speaker 3: to retire and die off. Twelve years a long time.
Speaker 3: A lot can happen in twelve years, you know, and
Speaker 3: we can get to a point where I mean, I
Speaker 3: mean just in the time period we've had, and this
Speaker 3: is with a four year break with the federal government
Speaker 3: going hard at us during the Biden administration, but just
Speaker 3: in the time we've had since twenty fifteen twenty sixteen,
Speaker 3: Look how much we've been able to accomplish, you know,
Speaker 3: and so if we can get another you know, nine
Speaker 3: years of that will be in a very very different place.
Speaker 3: You know, things things are changing way too much. You
Speaker 3: look at the polls of like the way younger generations
Speaker 3: think about it. People who are zoomers now are going
Speaker 3: to be in their mid forties, you know, and they're
Speaker 3: going to be the middle managers of companies, and they're
Speaker 3: going to actually be people who, you know, who aren't
Speaker 3: just participating in this stuff as anonymous Twitter trolls, but
Speaker 3: they're going to be participating in society in different ways,
Speaker 3: you know, and in more elevated ways. So we just
Speaker 3: got to buy ourselves at time. And it's why I'm
Speaker 3: you know again, I tell people I don't really care
Speaker 3: what your thoughts about him personally are hundred percent advanced
Speaker 3: twenty twenty eight, just because we he's not hostile to us.
Speaker 3: He's not going to sick the federal government on us,
Speaker 3: and that is all we need residential administration right now.
Speaker 6: Well that and our own and we'll call it like
Speaker 6: gentile financial networks too, because all of this does, you know,
Speaker 6: organize and costs money. And that's probably the thing that
Speaker 6: I'm most discouraged about is the lack of these But
Speaker 6: if you think about, you know, who amongst us has
Speaker 6: that type of money, you're really all talking about people
Speaker 6: that are past the you know, we'll call it the
Speaker 6: fifty year old dividing line and are fundamentally unable to
Speaker 6: see politics as it is now. I think that that
Speaker 6: and probably housing is probably the biggest hurdle for our
Speaker 6: guys right now. Is the lack of organized financial support,
Speaker 6: like there is no h Arabella networks for people like us.
Speaker 6: It's probably one of the biggest you know, I probably
Speaker 6: say the biggest, if not like the second biggest issue
Speaker 6: that we have to overcome, and I think probably the
Speaker 6: second is housing unless this administration is able to a
Speaker 6: stop and reverse immigration to a large degree, but stop
Speaker 6: and reverse both private equity and more importantly and larger
Speaker 6: foreign nationals purchasing US real estate. They don't live in them, right, So,
Speaker 6: like three quarters of the kind of the apartments in
Speaker 6: Manhattan are owned by Chinese, Russian, Indian nationals that will
Speaker 6: never step foot in them, nor will they ever rent them.
Speaker 6: It's just that their financial systems are coming apart. And
Speaker 6: the safest thing in the world to invest in, safer
Speaker 6: than the US dollars because it protects you from inflation,
Speaker 6: is US real estate. So until we kind of allow
Speaker 6: guys to form families, yes too, I think a type
Speaker 6: of mindset is generated by a man that has a family, right,
Speaker 6: a wife and a house. It makes his perception of
Speaker 6: time much longer, and it makes them capable of doing
Speaker 6: the hard work that takes a long time before you
Speaker 6: see results. So it's not just you know, it gives
Speaker 6: them a long term time horizon, it's something that you know,
Speaker 6: it's a victory that they can put underneath their belt
Speaker 6: that says, Okay, if I struggle at something for a
Speaker 6: very long time, eventually it will yield results for me
Speaker 6: that are worth it. I think that's probably the first
Speaker 6: step on the ladder. And unfortunately, all of the you know,
Speaker 6: solutions that we've seen out of this administration so far
Speaker 6: are not really able to deal with that. But I
Speaker 6: think if you've solved those two things, get get guys,
Speaker 6: get people with ideas like us. You know, luckily, I
Speaker 6: don't you know, I was very lucky professionally, and I
Speaker 6: don't have to worry about a lot of the things
Speaker 6: that other people worry about. But I don't have enough
Speaker 6: money to you know, I'm not a I'm not George
Speaker 6: Soros money. I'm not you know, Bill Gates money, So
Speaker 6: I we don't have those type of people that share
Speaker 6: our ideas that are willing to put money to work
Speaker 6: where people can make this their full time job, because
Speaker 6: we do have to order. I agree with you, we
Speaker 6: do have to. There needs to be an entire infrastructure
Speaker 6: of people that come in with vance, both in public
Speaker 6: organization in private. So I hope those things can could
Speaker 6: get solved. But I asked for you. You're going to
Speaker 6: say something, I'm.
Speaker 2: Just kind of have to go. I want to give
Speaker 2: Darrell the last word.
Speaker 3: Well, actually I got a roll too, brother. I just
Speaker 3: got a phone call. I got a contractor that was
Speaker 3: supposed to be at one and he's going to be
Speaker 3: here in just a few minutes, so I got to
Speaker 3: roll out too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there you go. Look, this was a great show, Darryl,
Speaker 1: thanks for coming, man. Just really honored to have you here.
Speaker 3: Like I always tell you, man, anytime I'm trying to
Speaker 3: dial back like appearances on just kind of you know,
Speaker 3: turning down invitations in general. But that's never going to
Speaker 3: apply to my friends.
Speaker 6: So the questions part two come out, Uh probably, I'm
Speaker 6: sure you hate that.
Speaker 3: Sure, late February, early March. That's what I think I'm
Speaker 3: on track for right now. So yeah, we'll see Stormy
Speaker 3: it was awesome talk to you man. I've been a
Speaker 3: fan for a while. I love you guys on the
Speaker 3: Inquisition and I'll come back anytime.
Speaker 2: We'll make it happen soon.
Speaker 9: Thanks every great fella listening, and thanks Against
Speaker 6: Stott.