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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Inquisition Podcast. Everybody, the panel reconvenes

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with a very special guest, Darryl Cooper from Martyr Mate

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is here.

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Speaker 2: Darryl, thank you so much for joining us. Man, it's

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great to have you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great to finally be on here with you guys.

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Every time I listen to a show, I'm jealous that

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I'm not here so.

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Speaker 1: Well, your name's come up since before the show even

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started as one of the guys we'd like to join

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the panel someday. So I'm glad to bring it to

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fruition today. And you've been you've been on Twitter recently.

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I mean you've been on Twitter a while now, making

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some excellent post and fighting the good fight. But a

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couple tweets you made the other day really grab me

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and Storm his attention, and we started circulating it around

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the group and talking about it. It's stuff that we've

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talked about and stuff that we want to get to

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in the future more as well. So it was a

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good occasion to have you on. So I'd like to

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read the tweet for everybody. I will link Darryl's Twitter

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in the show notes. I'm sure you already follow him though, So, Darryl,

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the other day you tweeted, America is not an outpost

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of Europe in the New World. Europe is dying and

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sadly will be overrun by Africa and the Middle East

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within the century. America is a new civilization and gestation,

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and the form it will take is still obscure. Our

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natural place is as the leader of Western hemispheric civilization,

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and in five hundred years, when we're appointing ambassadors to

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the European Caliphate, that will seem obvious to everyone. And

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then in parentheses you add, sorry, Euros, I'm pulling for you.

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I'm just not optimistic. You're always welcome here though. So, Daryl,

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this is something I agree with wholeheartedly. I'd like to

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sort of elaborate and expand on a lot of these points,

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but I also have to throw in here before I

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let you take over that I assume you got some

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pushback for this.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's definitely the view that you know that

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that meme with the cartoon of the guy surrounded by

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swords at his neck, it's the one that gets me

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that the most on the right wing, probably more than anything,

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and understandably so it's a pretty hot take, and you know,

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it's one that sort of flies in the face of

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I guess what should say is sort of the consensus

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right wing position and has been for you know, for

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a long time. So I get it, and you know,

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I put it up to be inflammatory, I guess, to

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provoke discussion.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's a hard truth.

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Speaker 1: And the very first comment that you responded to is

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Europe is dying because it is occupied by America. Now,

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this is I think maybe a good place to start

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with this tweet. What do you think he means by that?

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Speaker 3: Well, if you look, I mean, Thomas has talked about

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this a lot. I mean, you know, I think that

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even leaving aside the outcomes of the world wars, you know,

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those two things could have happened in Europe could still

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be surviving if America hadn't occupied and controlled the European

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discourse for as long as it has. I mean, you

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look throughout the Cold War period, and I mean up

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to this very day. You see George Floyd getting you know,

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getting dead in Minneapolis, and you see protests BLM, protests

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in London and Brussels and all these places where it

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makes no sense at all, just the American superculture has

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kind of been exported, you know to places, just like

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back in the sixties and seventies when black power got

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exported to the Caribbean and the blacks there started attacking

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the Indians for things that really had no you know,

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cultural valance in those places just a decade or two before.

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You know, our cultural domination, and in the case of Germany,

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you know, our literal domination of their media and education

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system and everything is really just you know, created over

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the course of a couple of generations. A culture in Europe,

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not only a political culture, but you know, to a

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large extent. I mean, we've got our guys over there.

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are trying to fight, but uh, you know, the society

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itself that that really just doesn't have the the wherewithal

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to resist their own their their own suicide, you know.

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two World Wars had gone the way they had, if

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America had gone home after the Second World War, and

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you know, the Soviet Union hadn't rolled over the place obviously,

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then I think Europe would probably be fine. But it's

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that multiple generations of indoctrination and just cultural osmosis. I mean,

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the probably the clearest and starkest example of this, uh

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you know, of this process. It's just the fact that

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all of the countries that were behind the Iron Curtain,

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you know, living under communist internationalism, and you know, just

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they all have a sense of identity that they are

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still willing to hold on to and defend. And sure,

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part of it is probably because they were living under

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the subjugation of the Soviet Union for a while and

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so they had a more recent nationalist outburst that sort

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of you know that still lingers. But really I think

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it's largely that they were protected from the American cultural contamination.

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in Europe in terms of the countries that are willing

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and able to defend themselves and those that aren't, I mean,

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it is the Iron Curtain, you know.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: I know, Thomas and Pete's time is somewhat limited, so

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Speaker 4: God Thomas, Yeah, And the problem is there's an intellectual

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poverty among what passes for the right, especially on the

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question of Europe, because there's a there's a conceptual of

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literacy there. You know, Europe went down at Stalingrad.

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Speaker 5: It was done. It's over.

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Speaker 4: This thing was decided eighty years ago, and the entire

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purpose of the war effort was the annihilation of Europe

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as a discrete cultural form and historical phenomena and the

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can comaa eradication of its ability to massivelly assert itself

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on the world stage and power political terms. You know

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that that was the entire purpose of the war. I

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salagon our friend Kevin Vianna about this yesterday on his pod.

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Speaker 6: You know, so.

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Speaker 4: You've got this population of people these days who are

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having this kind of conversation with themselves that has nothing

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to do with historical, conceptual realities or statig realities on

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the ground in the military sense, you know, because they're

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their epistemic priors are totally wrong. You know, they're acting like, well,

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you know, World War two was bad, but you know

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the problem with Europe is that these liberals, you know,

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took over things and we have a bad immigration policy,

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like it's the whole thing. I mean, I don't even

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know where to start with these people, because again, they're

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they're so out of touch with the reality of things,

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and that's why you know, well.

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Speaker 5: What's underway right now.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to spin this so often to in

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a discussion at current events and military imperatives of the major.

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Speaker 5: Actors they're in.

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Speaker 4: But you know the reason why this design is crusade

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against the Russian Federation. There's a deeper catalyst for that too,

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because you know, jude have used their primary enemy as Russia.

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They always they hate them on that there's a deeply

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coded racial animosity towards them. The more immediate catalyst was

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obviously the loss incurred by IDF for the hands of

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the armforce of the Russian Federation his Blah and the

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then extant Syrian Arab army. You know, obviously that situation

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is resolved in my opinion for the worst. But the

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you know that was the immediate catalyst was returning to

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serve and permanently tying down the Russian armed forces on

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their own frontier. But more broadly, you know, it was

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an avenue of ingress to uh, you know, preclude and

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destroy the Burgening complex and independence between Europe and the

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Russian Federation, because that's the only path the European livration,

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you know, And just an example of what I was

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talking about, the conceptual literacy of the supposed right wing

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this or otherwise, almost nobody talks about this. They don't

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know what they're talking about. They have no idea of

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the actual catalyzing variables with respect to the you know,

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zionis aggression against the Russian Federation. They have no idea

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what Merkele was trying to accomplish with, you know what

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was actually a pretty masterful.

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Speaker 5: Bit of.

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Speaker 4: Intriguing, you know, whereby she took Germany off of nuclear

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power as so that you know, she could generate this

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deep independence with the gas prom under auspices of hey,

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you know, we're we're going green. You know, that's whole

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other subject matter. You know, Miracle was raised in the

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d DR. I mean, she she understands exactly what the

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situation is. But the war against the Russian Federation is

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a part of the continuing racial war against Europe, the

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goal of which is the literal annihilation of Europe, just

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as uh, you know it always has been. And uh,

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that was the raison I'm dead for the Second World War.

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That was that was the reason for the occupation. Everything

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that afflicts Europe today is approximately caused by the social

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engineering regime, which is, was, and is tailored as a

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racial assault on Europe qua Europe, the purpose of which

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is to eradicate it as an identitarian and historical and

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political phenomenon. And anybody doesn't see this isn't in the game.

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They're monumentally ignorant.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 4: The American situation is a bit different, but you know

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that that's a whole other, related but discrete subject matter.

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So yeah, the then I'll stop talking in a minute.

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But the the problem is twofold. The problem is, you know,

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I mean, we're uh, there's the there's a practical issue

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of you know, for the Europeans, they're they're they're they're

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at a disadvantage that we are not, you know, and

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they're availed to a they're they're availed to a penal

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system that can quite literally incarcerate them without any resort

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to even superficial due process. But also, and the more

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deeper problem is you can't and I mean I cited

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I was on the panel for the Portland event. You know,

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you if there's not a conceptual grounding of your cadre

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or actual or potential, you're pissing into the wind, and

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I can I can count that number of guys on

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one hand who have any kind of profile at all

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in in in terms of potential European vanguard, because the

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these these people are completely fucked up in terms of

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their conceptual orientation. They don't know what the fuck is

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going on. You know, it's a real problem. But that's

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there are people, even on what would be coin the

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dissident right, that have bought into the fact that populism

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it is a way forward and can be like the

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way forward, when all populism is is just another form

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of liberalism, and liberalism is what's got what's got us here,

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so you know, whereas populism, like you know, like we

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always say, Trump Trump, demand doesn't mean anything, but the

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fact that Trump was elected means that people people are

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starting to think differently. But still, when you look at

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any kind of populist movement, any kind of you know,

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anyone saying the only way you're going to get any

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real change for you is through Trump, well, these people

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have lost They don't understand exactly they don't understand what

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Thomas is talking about with the last eighty years brought

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to us. They are they're bringing a band you know,

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they're they're bringing a band aid to a.

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Speaker 6: Weary To recognize that Pete, they would have to acknowledge

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who brought this to us. And I think there in

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lies the difficulty or the reluctance for them.

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Speaker 5: That's part of it. One's in a distint, right, no quick, I.

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Speaker 4: Mean yeah, part of it is that there's tremendous pressures

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within the psychological environment to not identify the conferences certain

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features of this thing. But also it's just something that's

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beyond most people. You know, it's not even a matter

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of intelligence. I mean, yeah, if you know, somebody who's

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really stupid obviously isn't gonna be able to perceive the

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nuances of high politics.

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Speaker 5: But like, people either get this or they don't.

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Speaker 4: They can either perceive these kinds of things that they can't,

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I mostly one of the balls either because you're marking

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Speaker 7: Yeah, go ahead, well, there's also the fact that we

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live in a culture where, you know, people like Darryl

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can make a difference with what he's doing and the

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amount of people he's reaching and the quality of people

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to actually who have the means to initiate change on

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a fundamental level. But also you have this this creator

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culture where if I meant, if I say the wrong thing,

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I'm going I'm not going to be able to continue

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my income. I maybe get fired from you know, I

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may get fired from the you know, from Salem Media

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or Jailly Wire or something like that. So there are

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a lot of people, I mean, I can I'm not

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gonna name names, but I can name the names of

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a couple people who know for a fact the spirit

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of what of what is taking this over, but they

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they will not say it because it's gonna it's going

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to affect their income. So yes, I have to deal

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and part of it too.

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Speaker 4: There there's also a subset of people who have this

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delusion that somehow these things are a big secrets and

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you've got to wake up normies and avail them to

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these secrets. I mean, that's why I hate like the

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red pill metaphor. It's fucking stupid. And like, that's also

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not how your point is not how politics works.

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Speaker 5: There's not.

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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, the body politics plays an essential role

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at scale in any revolutionary paradigm. But it's the idea

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that the political realities are a secret and somehow, you know, uh,

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you avail people to some you know, to some road

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to Damascus awakening, and then everything changes because there's this

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kinetic outburst of corrective forces. That that's not how things work.

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And also it's not everything the regime has done the

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last eighty year has been un like, it's been totally

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above board. There's nothing secret about it, you know, I mean,

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that's it's that's that's basic as hell too perceive things

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that way anyway. But in the case at Bar, it's

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literally the opposite of how it's presented.

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Speaker 5: I just learned what it's seeing with it.

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Speaker 6: To Thomas's point, not only is it one above board

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and in full public view, it's done with the basically

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the global asing managerial superstructure. It is functionally how they

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operate right like that there's I don't know how you

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would frame this, Thomas, but since post nineteen eighty five.

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the merger and acquisitions craze, right, it literally took over

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the financial market for about ten years. You took five

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to six thousand private companies split private and public companies

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split between Europe and the United States, and you turned

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them into less than five hundred. Right, all of these

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boards got folded in on each other. None of these boards.

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shareholders themselves, right, They're an accountant or an attorney that

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represents the shareholder. Right. So the person that owns these

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controlling stakes and these interests can't even be bothered to

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actually vote their shares. It's all done by proxy. So

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these people live detached lives from you know, capital, and

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American and European elites, right where like America's capital class

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has viewed itself as the enemy of American people, the

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exact same thing in Europe. And what's basically happened after

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World War Two. I mean, we talk about the Nuremberg regime,

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but we don't ever really get a chance to talk

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about is the Nurmberg financial regime. Say something miraculous happened,

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it's the it's the Keynesian regime, well kind of.

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Speaker 4: I mean, and in broad strokes, I think that's exactly

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what it is. I mean that Sumpter, I definitely believe

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that's what it was. And everybody who saw at a

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corrective solution is in dialogue with keys, you know, whether

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you're talking about Rothbart or Trumpeter or even U or

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even Freeman.

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Speaker 5: I think it's an over So check this out, go ahead.

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Speaker 6: Nine tenths of every dollar in the world is printed

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overseas and exists overseas.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 6: It's printed by offshore banks and indexed to a European

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interest rate. This is like your credit card, your mortgage.

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those interest rates were set up by someone in London, right,

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don't mean actual printing press right, I mean banks lending

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money to individuals or businesses denominated in dollars, which is

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effectively how our banks print money. Here, nine tenths of

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the dollars exists overseas, printed by overseas banks, and what

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that's effectively given these people is infinite money to create

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a really a bureaucratic transnational state to where like to

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what I think is very funny because often you say

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like it's globalism versus the resistance, and in a way,

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I think globalism is dying. But in another way, I

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think you're right. Right, So when Darryl points out that

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America has quite is basically distinct different and also the

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continuation of European culture, you've basically seen a financial bifurcation, right.

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and financial, has now separated itself from the United States. Right.

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or libor, but in twenty nineteen, the euro dollar market,

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which is this offshore money printing dollar printing machine that exists,

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was effectively cut off from the United States. Right, So

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basically your money that those dollar bills that you printed

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over there aren't allowed to come here anymore. And it

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was a big, huge deal. Like they tried to they

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whipped up fake insider trading scandals against Jerome Powell. They

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did everything to try and I mean Nancy, sorry, Kamala

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Harris and John McCain high fived on the Senate floor

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when they filibuster the introduction of the US introducing its

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own interest rates that only US money has been introduced

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or it can be indexed to like Nancy Pelosi adjourned

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Congress six months early to not reappoint Jerome Powell and

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introduce this system. So basically what we're seeing is a

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financial fight that mirrors the fight that you're talking about. Well, yeah,

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the conflict diet is identical to the one that Daryl

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lays out. There's basically global capital is doing what you

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guys are talking about. But unbeknownst to anyone else.

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Speaker 4: The term political economy is somewhat redundant because there's a

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political aspects to all macroorgonomics. But the nerveerk system is

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purely political. There's permutations of other human affairs, sociological structures

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and a lake they're impacted, but it is a it

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is a purely and nakedly political structure, and it's one

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hundred percent ethical in nature as its subject matter. The

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economic scheme must serves that political structure absolutely, but it's uh,

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they're not they're not synonymous and that's important. And the

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reason why I say it's the Keynes regime is because

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even when even when America, even when neoliberalism became uh

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yass's based in Chicago school economics, which is qualified monitorism,

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even when that became the consensus, you know, in like

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nineteen eighty five, eighty six, eighty seven, there's still keys

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and assumptions that absolutely code and color decision making with

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regards to national economic policy.

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Speaker 5: And this is important.

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Speaker 4: When I say global When I say globalism, is the

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reality in the state is dying and you're a buddle,

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is that globalism is dying?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this kind of.

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Speaker 4: This kind of Clintonian neoliberalism. Nobody believes in that anymore.

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kind of model proposed by these PNAC type guys. We're

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staging kind of a comeback. That's over with, that's dead.

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What I mean by globalism is what guys like Emmanuel

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Wallerstein refer to, you know, owing to the fluidity and

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mobility a capital, owing to the reality of a telecom

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and WOI competent and dependence is facilitated by that. This

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is just the reality, you know, And unless there is

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some sort of truly punctuated crisis event where the grid

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went down on planetary scale. This is inevitable, it's not

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gonna it's you know that that's the new reality. Politically, Yeah,

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what's There's the new reality is that devolved kind of

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localism And that's what this is a perfect convergence of

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circumstances that you know, advantages the resistance, including us.

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Speaker 5: That's what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 6: Well, in that case, I would say that I agree,

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except for in that punctuated crisis event is going to

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be basically the financial grid coming down, right, So we're

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going to see the exchange and free trafficking and information

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and you know, anything of digital means. But what we're

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just now starting to see, like right now it's at

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the World Bank, I, m F and G seven stage right,

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but pretty much everyone in finance at a high level.

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Everyone is planning on capital controls coming down within the

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next two years, so money will not be able to

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leave Europe. Specifically, it's the Europeans that are pushing this,

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or the European elite class that are pushing it. China

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seems to be on board. So we're going to see digital,

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We're going to see an information globalism, to which I

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think is just going to accelerate. To your point, but

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I think capital for the first time is going to

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not be able to move freely. This is why you

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see a lot of a lot of money fleeing, right,

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because basically a lot of money this is another big

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driver of the inflation that we're seeing. It's not so

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much just money printing, its flight capital.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 6: So if you're a Chinese guy with a couple of

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million dollars outside of the Chinese system, the only thing

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you care about is getting it into the United States,

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particularly real estate, right, which is another one of these

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big drivers. It's not just black Rock buying up all

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the homes.

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Speaker 4: Think our exchange rate mercantilist anyway, So there's always there's

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always a rent.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. So basically all the money is scared and running

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home or running to the US for safe haven. Says

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what it's about to come.

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Speaker 5: Next, Stormy.

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Speaker 1: I want to bring something up to your point about

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Jerome Powell, and this ties back into Daryl's original point,

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which was with the release of these Epstein emails, did

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you get to read that email I sent you?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, I think that's very interesting.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, an email between Steve Bannon and Epstein, where

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Epstein first is disparaging Jerome Powell because he's not a

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PhD in economics, and he's kind of using this as

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an excuse to say, oh, he's going to be outclassed

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by everybody around him. Then he goes to say that

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we need to workshop ways to get him out. We

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need to get him out as the chairman of the FED.

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We do not want this guy as the chairman of

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the FED. And as soon as I read that, I

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sent that directly to you.

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Speaker 6: That's what's really money. Is the thing that Jerome Powell

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broke was how we basically rebuilt Europe through the Marshall Plan.

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But the reason that we didn't have massive inflation and

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the reason why we didn't have a collapse in asset prices,

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so we didn't have inflation or deflation. Right, So we're

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the only nation in the history of the world that's

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ever done war and not have either inflation or deflation

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immediately afterwards. And not only did we do war, but

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we did war on a scale that nobody ever had

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done war before. Unfortunately it was against our own race,

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but in our effort to rebuild Europe, to try and

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fight communism. We didn't give them gold, and we didn't

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print money to give them. We gave them the We

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gave one bank, it was supposed to be the Bank

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of England right the ability to lend money in dollars.

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But some funny enough, some Epstein like shit happened, and

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somehow that right to print money got given to a

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private UK bank. It's called Midlands Trust Bank, owned by

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of course the usual suspects, but within basically ten years

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being able to lend at five percent when every other

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bank on the British Isles is forced to lend at

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fifteen to twenty percent the actual reflective cost of capital. Right,

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you basically had a license to print money. And within

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ten years this Midlands Trust Bank had either controlling interest

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through convertible notes, so bonds is in like, I won't

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show up on the cap table if you try and

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see who owns what shares because I own bonds that

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I can flip into shares whenever I want to. It's

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a very stealthy way of controlling something. Or they just

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owned the shares outright to where this bank that no

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one had ever fucking heard of, effectively rolled up the

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entire UK financial system in less than ten years and

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then moved on to the continent. So by the time

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I'm the seventies rolled up this, you know, magic dollar

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printer had given a small group of people infinite control

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over the European capital base. So yeah, it's that's why

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that's why I said it's kind of like a Nuremberg

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financial regime, because it got rolled up it got rolled

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out at the same time.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, And it's absolutely I'm not trying to be

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finantic or split hair is It's just it's political economy

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needs to be distinguished between ethical and ideological structures, particularly

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ones narrowly tailored to realize social engineering ambitious, you know,

476
00:30:40,119 --> 00:30:44,680
And there's something that it's kind of it's both. It's

477
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:51,279
both more complicated and also discreetly adjacent, you know, Like

478
00:30:51,319 --> 00:30:57,640
I said, they're okay, are arguably arguably ethical. Uh, liberalism

479
00:30:57,759 --> 00:31:01,880
like Enlightenment liberalism is economic fe a He's keys, okay,

480
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,720
But that's it's got it's got to be distinguished from

481
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,640
it's got to be distinguished from the ideological program that

482
00:31:14,519 --> 00:31:18,440
was enshrined at the by the internetional militaries for funeral

483
00:31:18,519 --> 00:31:20,880
and and everything they're in.

484
00:31:21,119 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 5: Uh, that was my only point. I think this is important.

485
00:31:25,559 --> 00:31:27,839
Speaker 6: Well, we still got you on the line, because you

486
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,559
know your time is limited. I'd like to hear you

487
00:31:30,759 --> 00:31:34,599
and Darryl. You and Darryl talk a bit more about

488
00:31:34,799 --> 00:31:38,039
Daryl's comments about America being kind of the continuation in

489
00:31:38,079 --> 00:31:41,400
the future because it of European cultural civilization, because it

490
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:46,319
does echo what we've heard from YACKI just the solutions

491
00:31:46,319 --> 00:31:49,960
are backwards. Well, he diagnoses the same. And you mentioned once,

492
00:31:50,079 --> 00:31:54,160
that mentioned several times that Hitler in his comments to

493
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,839
the Germans is like basically the best of Europe went

494
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,400
to this place in that place had infinity resources.

495
00:32:02,039 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, and the best the best mentioned material.

496
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 4: Migrated here too in his estimation, and just like a

497
00:32:09,759 --> 00:32:14,720
massive percentage of the German of folks lage.

498
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:15,599
Speaker 5: You know.

499
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,559
Speaker 4: So, Yeah, America, America was and is the future if

500
00:32:20,599 --> 00:32:24,799
a no other reason then for what we just enumerated

501
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:30,359
and the fact that still the American continent contains about

502
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:35,599
half of this planet's natural resources. If Central Asia was

503
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,920
a continent, it would be a rival to that, and

504
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,359
probably about a third of our main natural resources are there.

505
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,079
Speaker 5: But my point.

506
00:32:43,839 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 4: Being you know that this is one of the reasons

507
00:32:45,799 --> 00:32:51,000
is as nine when he's midway. Zionis historians say, like

508
00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:53,759
Hitler was a nationalist, like no nobody thought in herds

509
00:32:53,759 --> 00:32:56,200
of nationalism anymore, at least of all Hitler, who was

510
00:32:56,359 --> 00:32:59,240
quite literally strived to zeitgeist, you know, Europe had to

511
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:04,359
become a super or die. And dialectical terms, yeah, I

512
00:33:04,519 --> 00:33:08,559
uh I, you know, not not only Yaqui was correct

513
00:33:08,799 --> 00:33:10,920
about the American situation, but also a lot of these

514
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,559
lost cause historians. What underlay the war between the states

515
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:20,519
in dialectical and historical terms, was, you know, whether whether

516
00:33:20,559 --> 00:33:24,319
there was going to continue to be this uh, you know,

517
00:33:24,599 --> 00:33:30,240
uh Anglo Celtic kind of cavalier element that viewed themselves

518
00:33:30,279 --> 00:33:36,799
as uh, that viewed their lineage as you know high

519
00:33:36,839 --> 00:33:40,519
you know, in highly racial terms and in deeply historical terms,

520
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:45,920
and specifically as a population whose political understanding was forged

521
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:51,039
by the War three Kingdoms. And then moving forward, we're

522
00:33:51,039 --> 00:33:57,519
going to guide the country's destiny with an understanding that

523
00:33:57,839 --> 00:34:02,519
you know, they they were the heirs to you know,

524
00:34:04,119 --> 00:34:07,880
European and in Indo Areyan cultural destiny.

525
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:09,079
Speaker 5: You know.

526
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 4: One of the reasons, part part of the seed of

527
00:34:13,519 --> 00:34:19,960
what became the New Dealer ideology. It wasn't exclusively uh

528
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:25,400
you know, some exotic import you know, of of the ashkenausm.

529
00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:26,679
Speaker 5: I mean, that was part of it.

530
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,519
Speaker 4: But you know, this understanding of you know, we can

531
00:34:30,559 --> 00:34:35,760
create a telluric utopia by ending history and stripping away

532
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:40,920
was viewed as you know, the burdensome aspects and prejudices

533
00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:45,519
you know of the historical experience, you know, and and

534
00:34:45,559 --> 00:34:49,239
in that way truly secede from Europe and realize the

535
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,639
ambition of the city on a hill by shipping the

536
00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:54,880
final trappings of you know what tethered us to the

537
00:34:54,920 --> 00:35:01,480
old continents and to Britain, you know. And obviously that

538
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:07,559
viewpoint one out in terms of power, political ambition, and

539
00:35:07,559 --> 00:35:15,639
the trajectory therein I think, yeah, Americans are we are

540
00:35:15,679 --> 00:35:20,119
the standard bearers of what remains of Western civilization. But

541
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:27,280
the days where it would have been possible to capture

542
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:32,039
the power apparatus of a superpower and realize that in

543
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,840
you know, in terms of practice on the world stage,

544
00:35:36,079 --> 00:35:40,280
like that's over with, you know, that belongs to the

545
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,639
twentieth century. So, I mean, that's my view of it.

546
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,760
But we're so we're sort of talking about two different

547
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:57,719
things within a the the common nexus of a of

548
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,199
subject matter. You know, that's the sort answer. I realized

549
00:36:01,199 --> 00:36:03,360
that's not fatuely short, but it's a huge freaking question.

550
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:11,199
Speaker 6: Yeah, Darryl, what were your thoughts when you I mean, yes,

551
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,639
you're kind of ship posting, but I imagine it's also

552
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,239
something that you firmly believe. How do you imagine the

553
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,199
American continent and the people therein being the continuation of

554
00:36:21,639 --> 00:36:24,960
European cultural civilization, if not ethnic civilization.

555
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,760
Speaker 3: Sure, I mean, yeah, I do mean it, But I

556
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,960
would say I'm not married to the idea. It's something

557
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,239
that I've been kind of wrestling with for several years now.

558
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,960
But yeah, it's a serious idea. I'm not just ship posting,

559
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:44,800
I guess, you know, I think of America as the

560
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,960
successor of Europe in the sense that you know, through

561
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:53,400
aeniis Rome was a successor of Troy, where the links

562
00:36:53,599 --> 00:36:59,360
over the centuries will almost become mythical as opposed to

563
00:36:59,559 --> 00:37:02,960
simply ethnic. I think I just think that's kind of inevitable, right,

564
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,559
I mean, you arrive on this gigantic continent and there's

565
00:37:06,599 --> 00:37:09,119
a bunch of European powers who were all in competition

566
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,480
for it, and you know, the people who came here

567
00:37:12,519 --> 00:37:15,239
from the British Isles had a sense of their own

568
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,800
historical destiny that had continuity going back into the past.

569
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,599
But as we resorted to mass immigration, wave after wave,

570
00:37:23,679 --> 00:37:26,760
generation after generation from first all over Europe and now

571
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,239
course the rest of the world, it's sort of induced

572
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,599
a kind of amnesia, permanent amnesia in America, where we

573
00:37:33,679 --> 00:37:37,719
don't have this long term sense of our past, going

574
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,480
back into our European past, a long term sense of

575
00:37:41,519 --> 00:37:45,039
just our historical destiny. It's rooted in the past. It's

576
00:37:45,039 --> 00:37:47,800
something that you know, a lot of a lot of

577
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,119
people have commented on that America kind of lives in

578
00:37:50,119 --> 00:37:54,719
an eternal present. And this wasn't true for everybody. For

579
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,760
all of American history. Even after the waves of immigrants

580
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,480
started rolling in, you still had this Anglo leadership class

581
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:06,079
that was in control of, you know, very important institutions

582
00:38:06,079 --> 00:38:10,039
that it was using to select and integrate new members

583
00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:12,719
from these immigrants groups that were coming in and sort

584
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,519
of work them into the dough. But by the time

585
00:38:16,599 --> 00:38:18,440
you get up to the sixties and seventies, you know

586
00:38:18,519 --> 00:38:20,599
that that class really kind of gave up the ghost.

587
00:38:20,639 --> 00:38:23,360
And whether that happened just due to you know, a

588
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,320
lack of talent after a certain generation, or whether it

589
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:31,760
was just they simply got swamped by the hyper development

590
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,920
of of of the managerial system in America, you know,

591
00:38:36,039 --> 00:38:39,880
and and that the bureaucracy and the managerial system sort

592
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,119
of became self aware and shoved aside this traditional leadership

593
00:38:43,159 --> 00:38:46,960
class that really had a sense of personal proprietorship over

594
00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:51,679
over the country and its future. You know, I think, uh,

595
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,559
I mean, yeah, I don't even know who the who

596
00:38:54,599 --> 00:38:57,360
the Rockefellers or Harriman's or any of those people would

597
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,400
even would even be these days.

598
00:38:59,119 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 7: You know.

599
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 3: And so once that happened, once they I don't want

600
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:08,199
to necessarily say advocated, but once you know, they lost

601
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,599
control of the system.

602
00:39:10,559 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 6: At Pearl Harbor.

603
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 3: At Pearl Harbor, yeah sure, but familiar with the business plot,

604
00:39:18,039 --> 00:39:19,280
Yeah yeah, sure.

605
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,559
Speaker 6: So yeah, I know an awful lot about that because

606
00:39:21,559 --> 00:39:26,119
it's kind of like overlapped with family history, and you

607
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,719
get basically, it's the only time you had all of

608
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,360
these men on side, right, So you have this organization

609
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,400
that first they tried to do it, I mean politely,

610
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,639
and they created something called the American Liberty League. It

611
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:50,920
was JP Morgan, sorry, Jack Morgan, John Pierrepont's son, frequent

612
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,280
op ed contributor to the Dearborn Independent. By the way,

613
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,880
you had Henry Ford, you had his arch nemesis. Like

614
00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:06,320
these these men committed you know, not just corporate espionage,

615
00:40:06,519 --> 00:40:11,440
but corporate you know, I don't know what you'd call it.

616
00:40:11,519 --> 00:40:14,880
But these men burnt each other's factories down, and they

617
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,800
said if they have they all each said, you know,

618
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,239
if I ever encounter so and So, you know C. K. Rank,

619
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,960
it would be like Fiver encounter you know Henry I,

620
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,960
you know, I'll shoot him or this, that and the

621
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,880
third Like these men hated each other, but C. K.

622
00:40:28,079 --> 00:40:33,119
Rinkin and Henry Ford, right, they teamed up Iree and

623
00:40:33,199 --> 00:40:40,039
Pierre DuPont. And you had Nelson and John Junior Rockefeller

624
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,880
and their arch nemesis at the time, one Huey P. Long.

625
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,880
You had Al Smith, who was the president of the

626
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,760
Democratic Party and the previous run up basically the previous

627
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,800
presidential candidate prior to Roosevelt, and the head of the

628
00:40:55,840 --> 00:41:00,239
Republican Party, all on this organization called the American Liberty League.

629
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:06,320
And Al Al Smith's speech to the American Liberty League

630
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,519
you can still find and it basically lays out the

631
00:41:09,519 --> 00:41:15,639
conflict diad and he is very very angry because he

632
00:41:16,039 --> 00:41:20,039
well he says specifically, he's like, you know, we put

633
00:41:20,119 --> 00:41:23,400
mister Roosevelt into office thinking we were going to get

634
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:27,159
a democratic candidate, and what we didn't see is the

635
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,159
he says Eastern European Bolsheviks. But I think we all

636
00:41:31,199 --> 00:41:35,840
know what he means. That he brought in he put

637
00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:39,480
he basically took none of the advisors that he was,

638
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,960
none of the cabinet members that he had all made

639
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,480
deals to bring in and replace them all with Eastern

640
00:41:45,559 --> 00:41:51,239
European Bolsheviks. And these these men are scared, like if

641
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,920
you read if you read that that speech, they're terrified.

642
00:41:55,039 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 5: They're like an end of the country to get that yeah, yeah, no,

643
00:42:01,119 --> 00:42:01,480
go ahead.

644
00:42:01,639 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 6: I was just saying that these guys, I mean, these

645
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,079
are some of the most powerful men in the world,

646
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,079
and they are terrified, Like you can hear it in

647
00:42:09,119 --> 00:42:13,400
their speeches that they basically view like, oh shit, this

648
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,159
guy lied to us, and he's filling the country or

649
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,880
filling the the executive branch with the same people we

650
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:25,199
just saw teardown Czarist Russia, Like, are we going to

651
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,880
lose our country because he's basically trying to listen to

652
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,559
World War and they were trying. They had, I mean,

653
00:42:31,639 --> 00:42:36,840
they probably would have successfully got him out. After Pearl Harbor.

654
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 4: Cornell Hall was uh, you know he was he was

655
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:50,000
the establishment pettig reed, remember, of the of the deep Cabinet,

656
00:42:50,039 --> 00:42:51,760
but even he was he was a he was a

657
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:57,599
lame duck anyway. But yeah, it's uh, it's very above bored. Well,

658
00:42:57,639 --> 00:43:01,320
I mean, just like packing the court. Roosevelt made some

659
00:43:01,519 --> 00:43:04,440
flippant comment, you know when I asked, like why all

660
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,840
of his picks from the federal jud this year were Jewish,

661
00:43:08,599 --> 00:43:11,039
you know about how well, you know, it's not my

662
00:43:11,119 --> 00:43:14,239
fault that these men make excellent lawyers. There some something

663
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:15,239
equally idiotic.

664
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,119
Speaker 6: But yeah, who was that Supreme Court justice that was

665
00:43:20,159 --> 00:43:27,639
basically puppeteering him around Frankfurter, Yeah, strength, Yeah, picked the

666
00:43:28,079 --> 00:43:33,920
supposed Republican. Republican Supreme Court justice basically gave FDR his

667
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,840
marching orders. And what an FDR. We talked about whether

668
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:43,599
it's abdication. What FDR did is he immediately created a

669
00:43:43,599 --> 00:43:49,440
whole bunch of financial securities departments and agencies. Right, So

670
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,840
you had the creation of the sec you had the

671
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,960
creation of the Financial Crimes Division out of the Department

672
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:03,840
of Justice, and these organizations were specifically to go after

673
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:08,800
Anglo power. Oh yeah, you guys immediately, yep, exactly, the.

674
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 5: Anti banker for these guys did.

675
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 2: Real what you're talking about.

676
00:44:17,519 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 6: This is in the thirties, okay, Right, so you're.

677
00:44:21,199 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: Saying that the Pearl Harbor was the last time the

678
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,199
Anglo elite were all on side until.

679
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, basically during the thirties, right during the first FDR administration,

680
00:44:32,199 --> 00:44:34,679
these men realized that they had a huge fucking problem

681
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,760
and a problem that would potentially be able to yank

682
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,480
control of the country away and take it in a

683
00:44:40,599 --> 00:44:45,559
very Unamerican direction. They noticed who it was. They noticed

684
00:44:45,559 --> 00:44:48,119
they were all Eastern European immigrats if you look at

685
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:52,360
you know. Anyways, So what FDR did immediately was create

686
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,800
a bunch of executive organizations that started targeting their power centers. Right. So,

687
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,519
you had the creation of the SEC, you had the

688
00:44:59,559 --> 00:45:03,840
creation of of FINSEN, and I can't remember the other

689
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:08,159
there's like two or three other financial adjacent or basically

690
00:45:08,159 --> 00:45:14,039
financial focused regulatory agencies. And I mean, to Daryl's point earlier,

691
00:45:14,079 --> 00:45:16,880
like JP Morgan didn't hire its first Jew to nineteen

692
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,440
eighty nine, right, Right, Like the Jews were kept out

693
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,880
of banking, they were allowed to do securities trading, right,

694
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,079
So this is why speculator has such a negative connotation

695
00:45:27,159 --> 00:45:34,239
in America. Right, banking was specifically a Anglo institution, and

696
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,480
they immediately went after that. Right, So you had the

697
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:43,880
introduction of Glass Stiegel, which basically stripped the you know,

698
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,519
banking institutions of a majority of their power and handed

699
00:45:47,559 --> 00:45:51,199
it over to the speculators. So firms like J Goldman Sachs,

700
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:56,639
which were irrelevant, tiny little shops until the FDR regime

701
00:45:57,119 --> 00:46:00,719
went Hammer and tongs at JP Morgan Chase sorry, JP

702
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:05,440
Morgan b and wine Melon and Standard Charter. Right, so

703
00:46:05,519 --> 00:46:09,039
that was the you know. Then immediately after that they

704
00:46:09,079 --> 00:46:12,639
went after the oil companies right and tried breaking them up.

705
00:46:13,119 --> 00:46:17,239
Standard Oil and the Rockefellers held on longer than anybody else.

706
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:21,360
They refused to acknowledge. They viewed the US entry to

707
00:46:21,599 --> 00:46:25,519
war in Europe as illegitimate. Right, they refused all the

708
00:46:25,519 --> 00:46:29,400
way throughout the war to stop selling oil to Germany.

709
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,360
They're like, this war is ridiculous, this war is criminal.

710
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,639
We want no part of it. I mean, I think Pete,

711
00:46:35,679 --> 00:46:39,159
on your show, you and I went through the polling

712
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:43,039
statistics of what Americans thought of the war in Europe

713
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,719
at the time, as like men were landing in D Day,

714
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,880
seventy percent of the country wanted nothing to do with it,

715
00:46:49,559 --> 00:46:52,960
and something like seventy five percent of the men you know,

716
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,719
landing in D Day had absolutely no idea why the

717
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,960
fact that they were there. So it was kind of

718
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:05,320
just an immediate right turn right into war into it,

719
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,599
and by the time the war was over, Anglo power

720
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:09,079
was dead.

721
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 5: Ye.

722
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,559
Speaker 4: It's a great book by the skuy Kaufman, The Rise

723
00:47:13,599 --> 00:47:18,840
and Fall of Anglo America. It's I mean, it's it's

724
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,840
very much, uh kind of a deliberately a political book.

725
00:47:23,679 --> 00:47:25,559
I would argue with that subject matter can never be

726
00:47:25,599 --> 00:47:30,760
a political but it's the data points in the punctuated

727
00:47:31,199 --> 00:47:36,840
deterioration of control over the institutions is is very it's

728
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,800
very uh well explicated. I highly recommend it.

729
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:46,679
Speaker 6: One quick point to Daryl's Daryl your comment about how

730
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:54,000
these uh, these Anglos they indexed themselves to European civilization

731
00:47:54,159 --> 00:47:59,079
for their their history and their identity. This couldn't be

732
00:47:59,119 --> 00:48:03,440
more true. If you read, you know, the diaries of

733
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:10,000
a lot of these big wasp either scions or you know,

734
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:15,559
the patriarchs. You see like no bless obleache died out

735
00:48:15,559 --> 00:48:20,360
in the European continent in the sixteen hundreds, but you

736
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,960
see it really pop up in the eighteen hundreds to

737
00:48:24,039 --> 00:48:27,360
nineteen hundreds. So like if you worked on let's say

738
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:33,559
you were John Pierpont Morgan's mechanic and you worked, you know,

739
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,480
for the family for ten or fifteen years, and some

740
00:48:37,599 --> 00:48:41,840
horrible accident befell you and you're either no longer able

741
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,480
to work or you passed away. The Morgans and they

742
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,719
did this three or four times, but they were not

743
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,840
the only American elite family that would, you know, repeatedly

744
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:56,480
do this. They would basically take in your sons and

745
00:48:56,559 --> 00:48:58,840
they would put them into the same schools that their

746
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,559
children were in, and they would use their networks to

747
00:49:02,559 --> 00:49:06,800
get you the same jobs that their children would get.

748
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:11,519
And actually the guy that took over from Jack Morgan,

749
00:49:11,559 --> 00:49:15,079
Pierpont's son, was a man by the name of Tom

750
00:49:15,519 --> 00:49:19,039
was it Tom Lamont? Tom Lamont was the son of

751
00:49:19,079 --> 00:49:25,559
a basically a house employee of the Morgan house that

752
00:49:25,559 --> 00:49:29,039
that passed away, and these men like they are suddenly

753
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:34,519
they suddenly find themselves richer than anybody had ever been before.

754
00:49:35,159 --> 00:49:39,320
And I would imagine it's an extremely disorienting, you know,

755
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,199
position to find yourself in where you're richer than the

756
00:49:42,199 --> 00:49:45,320
federal government. Like, what the fuck do you even do

757
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:50,840
with that? Real quick, they turned back to basically, real quick,

758
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:51,719
the Middle Ages.

759
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 4: Stormy Richard Whitney, who was chairman of the New York

760
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,400
Stock Exchange. Roosevelt literally had him indicted and thrown in prison,

761
00:50:00,119 --> 00:50:03,239
completely insane, Like think about that, imagine like the imagine

762
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,320
the haunts with the of the of the New York

763
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,079
stock esteen just like being locked in prison and after

764
00:50:08,119 --> 00:50:09,119
two thousand and eight as.

765
00:50:09,039 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 5: Like a place.

766
00:50:09,519 --> 00:50:10,280
Speaker 6: I didn't know that.

767
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,119
Speaker 5: Yeah he went to prison, he did like five years.

768
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, go ahead, Yeah, yeah, I did not know that that.

769
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,719
That's actually more insane than I thought.

770
00:50:23,119 --> 00:50:24,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I knew that happened. I just wanted to

771
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,400
make sure my data points were roy. That's I was

772
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,679
fucking my phone. I wasn't being a home over like.

773
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,679
Speaker 6: Yeah, but yeah, to Darryl's point, these guys basically went

774
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:39,400
into like, you know, kind of a story book type

775
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:43,320
of history of the nobility of Europe because they really

776
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,480
didn't have anything to relate to on the continent, so

777
00:50:46,519 --> 00:50:50,400
they all viewed themselves as you know, noble lords and fiefdoms.

778
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:54,159
And this is why you get that certain type of

779
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:59,599
patriarchal sense of the American super rich. In that period

780
00:50:59,639 --> 00:51:05,320
of time, you have like Andrew Carnegie built thirty six

781
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,599
hundred public libraries across the country in every town in America,

782
00:51:09,679 --> 00:51:12,480
and nobody had even heard of a fucking public library before.

783
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,599
But he just felt it was your duty or sorry,

784
00:51:15,599 --> 00:51:19,039
you're right as an American to have infinite knowledge. Like

785
00:51:19,159 --> 00:51:25,079
John D. Rockefeller built almost three thousand churches complete with schools, rectories,

786
00:51:25,119 --> 00:51:29,239
and child care facilities in every town and city in America.

787
00:51:30,119 --> 00:51:34,760
Like John Pierpont Morgan bailed out the federal government. I

788
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,960
literally leveraged everything he owned. If the federal government would

789
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:42,159
have faltered, he would have literally been homeless, because he's like,

790
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,320
America gave me everything I have. And you know, frankly,

791
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,239
you're an idiot if you you know you bet against America.

792
00:51:49,119 --> 00:51:55,760
He actually kidnapped four other heads of speculator houses, right,

793
00:51:55,920 --> 00:52:00,239
you know, and lured them onto his boat, and I

794
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,719
basically told them, you know, once they were past swimming

795
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:07,840
distance from the DOC said, I'm it's my intent to

796
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,480
bail out the government of the United States. This morning,

797
00:52:12,199 --> 00:52:15,679
I took out lines of credit from each one of

798
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:20,239
your institutions, so basically, each one of your banks gave

799
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,679
me double my money back in credit, and I intend

800
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,840
to use this money to bail out the American government.

801
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:32,480
But I'm ten percent short. So either you contribute to

802
00:52:32,559 --> 00:52:35,519
that other ten percent, or I use the credit that

803
00:52:35,559 --> 00:52:38,760
you all gave me this morning to bankrupt you, and

804
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,199
by the time I take you back to shore, all

805
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,119
of you will be out of business. And then all

806
00:52:43,119 --> 00:52:45,800
that money I borrowed, I now owe to nobody. So

807
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,199
I guess it's mine. And what do you know, Like,

808
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:54,000
you know, Jacob shiff got a sudden urge of patriotism

809
00:52:55,679 --> 00:52:58,199
and helped bail out the country. But it's just something

810
00:52:58,199 --> 00:53:00,719
that we completely don't see from our rich men today.

811
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:05,480
It's it's it's patriotism when it's convenient to help me

812
00:53:05,559 --> 00:53:08,360
get my objectives done. But it's not a it's not

813
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:12,760
a spiritual sense of you know, who they are, what

814
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,679
their duty is, why they have this wealth.

815
00:53:15,199 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's there's the end of a serial posture, this

816
00:53:17,519 --> 00:53:23,760
exio matic going to the ethnosectarian aspect of it. But uh,

817
00:53:24,559 --> 00:53:27,000
a guy who I think, I mean, I mean, he's

818
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,760
something a midway, but his data points are useful. Charles

819
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:35,280
Murray wrote some pretty good stuff about the sociological dynamics

820
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:41,280
between between the one percent and everybody else, and even uh,

821
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,280
you know, historically, I mean even well into the twentieth century,

822
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:49,440
even like well into the seventies and eighties, unless unless

823
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:54,239
you were Andrew Carnegie himself or something like. You know,

824
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,239
even the guys who were the wealthiest men in America,

825
00:53:58,639 --> 00:54:03,679
their lives weren't, you know, inconceivably different than that of

826
00:54:03,679 --> 00:54:06,920
middle class people that all began changing in earnest in

827
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:11,920
the nineties. You know, the lives of a guy like

828
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,880
Peter Thiel, you know, compared to a dude who's a

829
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:21,159
you know, like a branch manager at bank one. It's

830
00:54:21,199 --> 00:54:23,880
it's it's it's it's completely insane. It's like comparing the

831
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:29,280
life of a space alien who it can traverse light years,

832
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,480
so that like an African bushman who hasn't even invented

833
00:54:32,519 --> 00:54:35,079
a slingshot yet, you know, like these people live in

834
00:54:35,119 --> 00:54:37,960
literally different worlds, you know, and that would be a

835
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:46,079
difficult psychological paradigm to reconcile even if there was a

836
00:54:46,119 --> 00:54:51,440
moral consensus, and there wasn't, you know, this perverse situation

837
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:58,360
where a hostile elite who views the majority as as

838
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:02,920
their ethno sectarian enemy, you know, And that's that's actually

839
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,719
an important point. You know, you can't if your class

840
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:14,960
of managers, you know, uh are our billionaires who every

841
00:55:15,039 --> 00:55:19,800
week travel to different countries on board their private jet.

842
00:55:20,559 --> 00:55:27,440
You know, I mean, how could they find common uh

843
00:55:27,559 --> 00:55:34,320
empathy with anybody but you know, their own cast, you know,

844
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:38,239
just even if they desire to curate such things, which

845
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,880
obviously they don't, I think it would probably be insurmountable.

846
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,039
That was just something I thought of as you guys

847
00:55:45,039 --> 00:55:46,920
were discussing this subject.

848
00:55:48,039 --> 00:55:50,639
Speaker 3: One of the one of the things that Thomas brings

849
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,800
up often is how the conditions that led to and

850
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,159
enabled the world wars to happen, and then in the

851
00:55:57,159 --> 00:55:59,920
post war period as well, that these are not one

852
00:56:00,079 --> 00:56:03,079
in a generation conditions. These are once in a millennium

853
00:56:03,199 --> 00:56:08,199
kind of conditions that are really not replicable. And you know,

854
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:14,039
I think about I guess a lot of people kind

855
00:56:14,079 --> 00:56:17,119
of have learned to take for granted over the last

856
00:56:17,119 --> 00:56:22,360
eighty years in the United States, these these very unnatural

857
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:27,880
economic and global political conditions where you know, the entire

858
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,239
planet had just been destroyed, its industrial base was destroyed.

859
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,119
We had the only one that was left standing. We

860
00:56:34,159 --> 00:56:36,519
had the people, the resources, and the industrial base to

861
00:56:36,599 --> 00:56:40,440
rebuild the entire planet. And so, as you said earlier,

862
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,880
like we go through this great war and don't face

863
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:47,159
this period of rampant inflation or deflation afterwards, the entire

864
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:51,119
world needed American capital, labor, resources, et cetera. And it

865
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:57,559
really pushed us into this just stratospheric economic place where

866
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,440
that over time people learned to kind of take for

867
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,480
granted as part of the natural order of things. And

868
00:57:04,639 --> 00:57:07,880
what the period we're in now and have been in

869
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,880
since maybe the mid two thousands, when maybe the late

870
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,960
two thousands, when Russia and China started to really flex

871
00:57:14,039 --> 00:57:17,000
and push back on the world stage, is a return

872
00:57:17,039 --> 00:57:19,920
to the mean, a turn a return to more natural

873
00:57:20,159 --> 00:57:24,960
like multipolar conditions under which a lot of these institutions

874
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,920
and just the ways we operate can't really function. You know,

875
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:31,400
in the nineteen nineties you had this you know, to

876
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,840
your point. You go Charles Murray talks about this too.

877
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:40,000
You go back to the mid twentieth century, and you know,

878
00:57:40,039 --> 00:57:43,360
not only did elites have this sense of no bless oblized,

879
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,440
not only were their lives not so radically different from

880
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,719
the people that work for them, but they were also

881
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,239
much more locally oriented.

882
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:51,559
Speaker 5: You know.

883
00:57:51,639 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 3: You go back and read through like the battles that

884
00:57:54,559 --> 00:57:57,440
the elites in Chicago went through with other big cities

885
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,199
elites to try to get the World's Fair there in

886
00:57:59,239 --> 00:58:02,199
eighteen ninety three, and I mean it was really important

887
00:58:02,199 --> 00:58:05,559
to them, you know. But then over time, as you

888
00:58:05,599 --> 00:58:08,000
go through that process, as Stormy mentioned earlier, where these

889
00:58:08,039 --> 00:58:12,000
thousands of companies become a few hundred companies, all of

890
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:16,119
those elites shifted to you know, New York, even if

891
00:58:16,159 --> 00:58:19,039
they didn't physically necessarily go there, like that's where there,

892
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,199
that's where their people were, New York, d C. Maybe

893
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:26,920
LA A few like megalopolises that absorbed all of those people,

894
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,280
and all of that sense of localism really went away.

895
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:31,880
And when you get into the post Cold War period

896
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,480
and things, you know, start to start to become not

897
00:58:35,719 --> 00:58:38,599
just scaled up at at a national level, but at

898
00:58:38,599 --> 00:58:41,280
a global level. You saw that on a on the

899
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,480
next you know, the next level up where those people

900
00:58:43,519 --> 00:58:47,320
who had kind of left behind loyalty for Detroit, Michigan,

901
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,280
for New York City have now even left behind loyalty

902
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,519
for New York City for you know, just the global

903
00:58:53,639 --> 00:58:58,360
sort of class that they're a part of. And so

904
00:58:59,239 --> 00:59:02,360
but I think that, you know, one of the things

905
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:07,840
that happened is that the elites really outran the natural

906
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,719
order of things in globalization during that period, so that

907
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,280
they got way far out in front in terms of

908
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:17,920
their own sense of identity and how their interests are allocated,

909
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:22,079
way out ahead of where the world itself actually was.

910
00:59:22,239 --> 00:59:26,920
Because you know, Thomas talked about how with just global telecommunications,

911
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:31,159
just all the different technological and political changes, globalization to

912
00:59:31,199 --> 00:59:34,760
a certain degree and global integration to a degree was inevitable.

913
00:59:36,199 --> 00:59:39,039
But you know, we got to a point where in

914
00:59:39,079 --> 00:59:42,960
the post World War period, this hyper globalization that we

915
00:59:43,119 --> 00:59:44,880
that we really saw and that the elites came to

916
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:49,880
really identify themselves with, was a result of American unipolarity.

917
00:59:50,239 --> 00:59:55,280
And even if you take away something like just you know,

918
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,239
you have a few other major powers that can control

919
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,679
what goes on in their own region, control the sea

920
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:03,960
lanes in their own region, all of those kind of things.

921
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,719
The global economic system is has is not in a

922
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,719
place where it is prepared to account for that, and

923
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,159
so yeah, go ahead.

924
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 4: Despite design, it's it wasn't sustainable from inception and the

925
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:23,159
the idea of true globalism and the and the the

926
01:00:23,199 --> 01:00:29,599
integration of an adjacent political structure with the new interdependent

927
01:00:30,519 --> 01:00:35,719
you know, uh, economic paradigm that was that's Bush the

928
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:43,480
Bush Baker administration. Their vision was that the Soviet Union

929
01:00:43,519 --> 01:00:47,960
would remain intact until full nuclear disarmament was realized. There'd

930
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:54,119
be this gradual you know, stripping away of the command economy,

931
01:00:54,159 --> 01:00:58,159
you know, and uh, the integration of the Soviet economy

932
01:00:58,199 --> 01:01:01,480
into world markets, you know, in a way that wouldn't

933
01:01:02,719 --> 01:01:07,840
cause punctuated disturbances that tended towards the actual crisis level,

934
01:01:08,679 --> 01:01:11,679
you know. And they had something you know, with Goruschev

935
01:01:11,719 --> 01:01:15,599
and shivit Nards, you know, they had an understanding there.

936
01:01:15,679 --> 01:01:21,639
The neocons guy was Yelston, and Yelton completely nuked the

937
01:01:21,679 --> 01:01:26,159
possibility of that being realized, you know, and this kind

938
01:01:26,159 --> 01:01:29,000
of this kind of mass looting operation.

939
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 5: Set in.

940
01:01:33,039 --> 01:01:40,239
Speaker 4: Coupled with this, you know, hyper aggressive military posture that

941
01:01:40,559 --> 01:01:45,000
was you know, nakedly tailored to facilitate Zionist interests. You know,

942
01:01:45,079 --> 01:01:48,840
the the ultimate goal was to break Russia at the

943
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:52,519
Soviet Union and the constituent elements, you know, like a

944
01:01:52,599 --> 01:01:56,159
greater Ukraine, you know, like a kind of commissary at

945
01:01:56,239 --> 01:01:59,800
moscown almost like the you know, the the Third Reich

946
01:02:00,039 --> 01:02:03,039
agin in geographic terms, and then like a Soviet Far

947
01:02:03,119 --> 01:02:07,199
East probably uh, you know, some of which would be

948
01:02:07,199 --> 01:02:12,360
conceded proceeded to the PRC, you know, and uh, this

949
01:02:12,559 --> 01:02:16,679
kind of looting the planet at mass scale. Well at

950
01:02:16,679 --> 01:02:21,280
the same time, uh, you know, socially engineering populations by

951
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,760
aggressive ethnic cleansing and forced mixing.

952
01:02:25,559 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 6: You know.

953
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:31,599
Speaker 4: Uh, this was the planetary Morgan foul plan quite literally,

954
01:02:32,199 --> 01:02:32,400
you know.

955
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:36,599
Speaker 5: And thank God, uh.

956
01:02:35,079 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 4: That that that blew up in their faces, and you know,

957
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:43,880
God bless the resistance for you know, for were indisputably

958
01:02:44,599 --> 01:02:47,039
you know, causing it to fail.

959
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,159
Speaker 5: But that's that was the intention.

960
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:58,679
Speaker 4: And uh, the ideological and social engineering aspects, it can't

961
01:02:58,719 --> 01:03:01,679
be extricated from the economic ones, which is one of

962
01:03:01,719 --> 01:03:07,280
the reasons why that ambition failed, because, like I said, yes,

963
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:12,039
when we're talking about economic policy, at national or global scale.

964
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:21,400
It's it's always politically coded, but setting about to force

965
01:03:21,519 --> 01:03:25,599
political outcomes by way of economic pressure, that's always a

966
01:03:25,599 --> 01:03:30,159
fool's errand and more often than not it's catastrophic.

967
01:03:32,239 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 5: That's uh, the key takeaway.

968
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 4: I think there's many nuances they're in obviously because it's

969
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:43,440
a huge subject matter. But that's that owes a lot

970
01:03:43,559 --> 01:03:47,800
to to the kind of contempt with which the new

971
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:53,880
elite view their lessers as they would you know, stack

972
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,880
it up and then you got the that's one of

973
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:58,559
the reasons to where like Elon Musk is in this

974
01:03:58,639 --> 01:04:01,360
kind of weird role. He's like a weird guy anyway,

975
01:04:02,039 --> 01:04:07,760
but he's like this tech entrepreneur who's this boyish you know,

976
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,559
Anglophone South African, you know. I mean he's like a

977
01:04:10,599 --> 01:04:15,199
man without a country like within this you know, overcast

978
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:20,599
of managers. I got to raise up in a few minutes,

979
01:04:20,639 --> 01:04:22,960
but I still got a few minutes.

980
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 5: If you guys that.

981
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:30,199
Speaker 3: Can they contempt you talk about you know, man, you

982
01:04:30,239 --> 01:04:32,280
guys can feel free to object on this. But it

983
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:35,119
seems to be in a lot of ways a continuation

984
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,519
of something that we've been dealing with for I mean,

985
01:04:38,559 --> 01:04:42,559
at least probably two hundred years, right, you go back

986
01:04:42,599 --> 01:04:47,800
to just the northern New England contempt for just the

987
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:52,800
southern resistance to full economic integration and political integration of

988
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:57,360
the states into a larger federal into a larger federal

989
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,440
project that was more united. You go up to the

990
01:05:00,519 --> 01:05:04,519
nineteen sixties and you have you know, you see it

991
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:07,840
really starkly with guys like John Lindsay, very much like

992
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,000
a even though I think he was kind of born

993
01:05:10,079 --> 01:05:12,880
upper middle class, not really like a wasp elite. He really,

994
01:05:13,239 --> 01:05:15,880
you know, sort of became became the symbol of the

995
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,800
wasp elite during that period. And you see from people

996
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:21,800
like him this real contempt for a lot of the

997
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,960
Catholic people living in the big cities who are essentially

998
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:29,639
resisting integration, you know, resisting giving up their local uh

999
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:33,440
you know, stubborn attachments and and and allowing themselves to

1000
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:37,400
be melted into a large, theoretically more efficient system. And

1001
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,400
now you see the same thing except on a global scale,

1002
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:42,960
where people are looking at their own populations that are

1003
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:47,559
resisting globalism in the same way that you know, that's

1004
01:05:47,639 --> 01:05:48,800
sort of like a long tradition.

1005
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, they they created they created the Wallace coalition,

1006
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,960
which is you know, the Nixon coalition, which is Meg. Yeah,

1007
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:58,480
that's why I fly the Bloodstained banner, because that's that's

1008
01:05:58,519 --> 01:06:04,000
my fucking flag. There's an outlaw flag because these fuckers

1009
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,320
hate us. That's one of the reasons too, why I

1010
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:11,199
pushed back when uh, there's like all these doom codd

1011
01:06:11,239 --> 01:06:12,719
guys like we're gonna.

1012
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 5: Be a white minority. It's all over.

1013
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 4: We're so fucked it's like gona be First of all,

1014
01:06:18,599 --> 01:06:21,320
I've always been a minority Ryan Matt. Second of all,

1015
01:06:21,679 --> 01:06:24,960
I mean my tribes the asked for as you know,

1016
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:32,280
South Africa, Ulster, you know here to some degree, Australia,

1017
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:35,480
New Zealand. Like we're always out numbered. People always fucking

1018
01:06:35,519 --> 01:06:41,880
hate us. We're always approved target for their hostility, you.

1019
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:45,079
Speaker 6: Know, kicking and screaming into civility. Yeah.

1020
01:06:45,119 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have it any other way, you know, And

1021
01:06:47,039 --> 01:06:50,360
like we're not uh, we're not We're not a bunch

1022
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:53,119
of koolies, We're not a bunch of Hindus.

1023
01:06:53,519 --> 01:06:56,719
Speaker 5: We're not like screwed if we don't have some super majority.

1024
01:06:56,239 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 4: On the ground, you know, Like, yeah, I one of

1025
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:03,480
the reasons why we're hard and effective and unkillable is

1026
01:07:03,599 --> 01:07:08,400
uh you know, because uh, we gotta lean and mean

1027
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:13,280
presidence wherever we're at, and we're always beleaguered. You know

1028
01:07:14,559 --> 01:07:18,159
that ain't nothing new and it's not gonna change. Like

1029
01:07:18,199 --> 01:07:23,119
it's not to say that like demographics aren't consideration. And look,

1030
01:07:23,719 --> 01:07:28,320
I can tell you firsthand what it's like to uh

1031
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:32,480
you know, be uh to receive a you know, the

1032
01:07:32,599 --> 01:07:38,159
negative consequences of things like the you know, Biden's version

1033
01:07:38,199 --> 01:07:40,519
of the Murial boat lift where he dropped you know,

1034
01:07:40,679 --> 01:07:43,360
like ten thousand filoni is fin of.

1035
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 5: Swinging military age meals here. You know.

1036
01:07:45,599 --> 01:07:48,079
Speaker 4: Like I'm not saying like that's cool or anything. Anybody

1037
01:07:48,119 --> 01:07:51,280
who thinks that is basic, but you know my point is,

1038
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:55,480
in broader terms, if you've got to shd this, this

1039
01:07:55,519 --> 01:07:59,199
is kind of like soft like pussy ass like boogie

1040
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:01,280
view of these things is where it's like, you know,

1041
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:03,360
if you're not a super majority, like you're fucked.

1042
01:08:04,039 --> 01:08:04,199
Speaker 5: You know.

1043
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 4: Plus it's not that that's not the case anyway, Like

1044
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:12,119
it's this idea that this idea that there was some

1045
01:08:12,199 --> 01:08:17,319
like monolithic like white Ethnos in America until like twenty

1046
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:20,039
years ago, and now that's over. Like that's food bar thinking.

1047
01:08:20,399 --> 01:08:21,399
I mean, I don't want to get into like a

1048
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:23,760
broader debate about like the white race. Yes it's a

1049
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:26,840
real thing. Yes it's important. Yes I stand on business

1050
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:30,359
and I fucking rep it. But it's you know, races

1051
01:08:30,359 --> 01:08:33,920
and ethnos and ethnos matters, and America is complicated in

1052
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,920
terms of the inner play those things. But I know

1053
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:39,640
only people are making fun of me about like abruptly exiting.

1054
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:44,760
So I'm sorry to live leptic cliche that stuff, but

1055
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:47,680
I'm going to do exactly that. But I wish I

1056
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:49,319
didn't have to. But I got a busy day and

1057
01:08:49,319 --> 01:08:51,600
then later today I got dinner plans and stuff. So

1058
01:08:52,159 --> 01:08:55,439
thanks for including me, fellas. Uh, I really appreciate that.

1059
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:56,399
I'm very humbled and.

1060
01:08:58,239 --> 01:08:59,279
Speaker 3: Good care Thomas.

1061
01:08:59,319 --> 01:09:01,199
Speaker 2: Great to have you in as always.

1062
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:08,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, So if you guys are cool

1063
01:09:08,399 --> 01:09:10,399
with it, I'd like to get back to this tweet

1064
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:11,960
because there's a couple of things in it that we

1065
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:12,760
didn't even get to.

1066
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 3: Uh well, let me let me jump in real. Yeah. Yeah,

1067
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:18,039
I'm going to play on that based on something that

1068
01:09:18,199 --> 01:09:20,039
Thomas just said. You know, one of the things that

1069
01:09:21,199 --> 01:09:24,159
I I guess I meant to put forth with that

1070
01:09:24,199 --> 01:09:29,199
tweet is, you know, just like Thomas said, you know,

1071
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:33,000
our guys have got to really shed that doumerism. You

1072
01:09:33,079 --> 01:09:35,560
know that like if somehow you dip to a forty

1073
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:37,439
nine percent population, that.

1074
01:09:37,359 --> 01:09:38,239
Speaker 6: It's all over with.

1075
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:42,560
Speaker 3: We also, I think, to a certain extent, have got

1076
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:48,520
to shed this like this fortress mentality that is very

1077
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:52,279
understandable given the circumstances that we find ourselves in, but

1078
01:09:52,319 --> 01:09:56,239
it's one that I think prevents us from doing one

1079
01:09:56,239 --> 01:09:58,640
thing that we really need to be willing and able

1080
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:02,159
to do, which is to prevent leadership to the civilized

1081
01:10:02,159 --> 01:10:04,640
minorities that do live among us. You know, And with

1082
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:06,600
that tweet, when I say that, like we need to

1083
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:11,079
embrace our role as the leader of a Western hemispheric civilization,

1084
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:16,119
I mean, it's really kind of ridiculous that we over

1085
01:10:16,159 --> 01:10:19,720
the years have tolerated a half failed state on our

1086
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:23,399
southern border, and that it's a state that you know,

1087
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:27,600
we have like good relations with, like you know, and

1088
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:31,600
all there's no hot like like outward hostility there or anything.

1089
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,680
But like, we we need the Western hemisphere, every country

1090
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,399
in it, to look at us as their leader. And

1091
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:42,680
part of doing that is that you know, our nationalist

1092
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:46,199
core in the United States itself has got to take

1093
01:10:46,199 --> 01:10:49,039
on a leadership role with respect to these civilized minorities

1094
01:10:49,039 --> 01:10:51,119
who live here with us in this country, you know,

1095
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:53,760
And it can't just be like a you know, a

1096
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,279
matter of racial purity or any of those things, because

1097
01:10:56,319 --> 01:10:58,880
the bottom line is, I mean, unless there is some

1098
01:10:59,079 --> 01:11:04,760
just completely un foreseeable transformation that would probably create a

1099
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:09,199
catastrophe with with uh, you know, outcome that that that

1100
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:14,239
can't be predicted. You know, demographics are going to continue

1101
01:11:14,319 --> 01:11:17,239
to trend in the direction they're trending, at least to

1102
01:11:17,279 --> 01:11:19,960
a certain point where, you know, where where they stabilize,

1103
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:21,920
and that doesn't look like that's going to happen anytime soon.

1104
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:24,640
That's the world we have to live in. And uh

1105
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:28,079
sort of going into a fortress mode of racial purity

1106
01:11:28,199 --> 01:11:32,800
rather than recognizing that, you know, uh, there are a

1107
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,439
lot of Latinos, there's a lot of civilized people in

1108
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:38,279
this country who just want to live regular lives and

1109
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:41,199
would be perfectly willing to accept the leadership of people

1110
01:11:41,279 --> 01:11:45,079
who know how to make that happen. I think is important,

1111
01:11:45,199 --> 01:11:47,680
you know, And I think that you know, because it's

1112
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:51,119
very easy to get to get lost and especially for

1113
01:11:51,199 --> 01:11:53,800
somebody like me, probably all of us, to get lost

1114
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:56,880
in the history of the whole thing and thinking about, like,

1115
01:11:57,159 --> 01:11:59,800
you know, just what's been lost, all the nostalgia, all

1116
01:12:00,079 --> 01:12:03,760
these kind of like larger not abstract but like semi

1117
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:08,840
abstract ways of looking at the whole situation and forgetting

1118
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:12,479
the fact that, you know, the the real important part

1119
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:14,920
here is that our grandkids are still living in a

1120
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:17,319
country where you know, they don't get kidnapped when they

1121
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:21,000
walk down the street, or it's just a functional country,

1122
01:12:21,159 --> 01:12:23,119
you know, And there are people out there who aren't

1123
01:12:23,159 --> 01:12:26,960
necessarily going to get on board with you know, some

1124
01:12:27,119 --> 01:12:31,079
white racial purity test that that can help with that,

1125
01:12:31,319 --> 01:12:33,279
you know, and are willing to accept leadership. And so

1126
01:12:34,199 --> 01:12:35,680
that's part of what I meant by that tweet.

1127
01:12:36,279 --> 01:12:38,520
Speaker 6: Well, to your point, Darrel, I think there's a clear

1128
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:43,239
demarcation that can be made between people that come here

1129
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:50,079
and marry in. I think marriage is probably the oldest

1130
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:53,479
and most you know, stable immigration policy.

1131
01:12:54,199 --> 01:12:54,359
Speaker 7: Right.

1132
01:12:54,439 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 6: If somebody in you know, the host nation vouchers to

1133
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:02,359
the extent that they come further and say like I

1134
01:13:02,399 --> 01:13:07,319
love this person, right, that person is no longer a

1135
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:11,520
burden of the state because they are coming into the

1136
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:16,239
country with a support network already in place. Right, they

1137
01:13:16,319 --> 01:13:20,079
have no choice, not no choice, but they are very

1138
01:13:20,199 --> 01:13:25,159
very excited about culturally integrating because they are integrating at

1139
01:13:25,239 --> 01:13:29,560
the most core level a person can be integrated to anything,

1140
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:32,439
right is the integration of man and wife into that

1141
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:38,079
singular human being. Also, it clears away a lot of

1142
01:13:38,119 --> 01:13:41,560
political problems. Right. So, right now you have a whole

1143
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:46,520
bunch of very wound up, left eoyed women and I

1144
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:49,720
think basically telling them like, oh no, immigration is now

1145
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:52,199
actually your choice. You just have to marry them, like

1146
01:13:52,279 --> 01:13:55,199
you can bring in whoever you want, but you have

1147
01:13:55,239 --> 01:13:56,800
to love them, and you have to love them forever.

1148
01:13:57,920 --> 01:13:59,680
The other thing is you can probably draw a very

1149
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:03,800
clear demarcation line between those that come to live here

1150
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:11,640
by where they keep their money. Right, there are individuals

1151
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:15,640
like a lot of the Latino individuals that you talk about,

1152
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:19,600
they're not sending money back home to Mexico. Right, They're

1153
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:25,000
building their future where they see their future as being right.

1154
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:30,159
But then you need to also, you know, well it

1155
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,720
just by making that one distinction draws a clear contrast

1156
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,279
between the people that view this as an economic zone

1157
01:14:36,319 --> 01:14:40,600
for extracting. Like I mean, even guys like Vivek Ramaswami,

1158
01:14:41,199 --> 01:14:48,319
the the healthcare stock fraudster. His parents had no problem

1159
01:14:48,399 --> 01:14:52,880
coming to America and having him and getting set up

1160
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:57,520
in lovely sinecure positions. So American PhDs don't get paid anything.

1161
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:02,039
But they've been your twenty years. Their son got to

1162
01:15:02,119 --> 01:15:06,800
make five hundred million dollars in America and they still

1163
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:10,479
don't want to become US citizens. They're sending all their

1164
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:13,640
money back home to India, building nice little I mean,

1165
01:15:14,239 --> 01:15:16,159
I hate to point him out and make it, actually

1166
01:15:16,159 --> 01:15:19,119
I don't. I hate that man. I think he is

1167
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:24,159
kind of the epitome of what we're seeing. But there

1168
01:15:24,279 --> 01:15:28,000
is a clear line between who sends money out of

1169
01:15:28,039 --> 01:15:32,359
the country to where those people see their home actually being.

1170
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:39,560
And the amount of money that leaves this country is staggering, right.

1171
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:44,159
We're talking half a trillion dollars at a clip, right,

1172
01:15:44,319 --> 01:15:47,680
h fisk. I mean literally half of the almost half

1173
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:51,640
of the sorry, almost more than half of the entire

1174
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:57,199
Defense Department's budget leaves this country in remittances, all right.

1175
01:15:57,239 --> 01:16:00,359
So that means money is earned here, and it's a

1176
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:04,520
money that could have been given to somebody that actually

1177
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:07,840
lives here. And you know is from here, it's given

1178
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:11,560
to somebody else, and that money doesn't stay in the economy.

1179
01:16:12,079 --> 01:16:13,760
And this is kind of the lie about you know,

1180
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:18,119
immigration being a boost to GDP, which is the lie

1181
01:16:18,159 --> 01:16:21,079
that a lot of our elites are told, right, because

1182
01:16:21,079 --> 01:16:25,760
if GDP backward dates, the sovereign debt begins to quickly

1183
01:16:26,039 --> 01:16:29,600
lose value, which accelerates rapidly and will end the nation

1184
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:34,439
in sovereign debt default really fucking quickly. So it's not

1185
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:36,800
just that they only care about line goes up, it's

1186
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:40,680
that they can only care about line goes up because

1187
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:44,960
how much debt all of these nations are in. But

1188
01:16:45,039 --> 01:16:50,159
there's also a foreign policy element. There is a I

1189
01:16:50,199 --> 01:16:52,439
can pull it up on my phone, but there's a

1190
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:55,920
speech that Prime Minister Modi is given giving to his

1191
01:16:56,079 --> 01:17:01,079
BNP party talking about how and it's actually really funny

1192
01:17:01,079 --> 01:17:03,600
because he basically says, we're going to do what the

1193
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:07,800
Jews do for Israel. We are going to put as

1194
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:13,239
many individuals into America, into these Western countries as possible,

1195
01:17:14,239 --> 01:17:20,399
and those people will then lobby for India's interests and

1196
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:25,720
the Modi government is basically helped facilitate you know, you

1197
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:28,680
actually have. You know, it's not just these people filling

1198
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:31,039
out frauds in H one B applications. It's the fucking

1199
01:17:31,119 --> 01:17:35,560
Indian government doing it. It's the Chinese government doing it.

1200
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:37,279
And I mean every time, I mean, I'm sure it's

1201
01:17:37,319 --> 01:17:39,560
really embarrassing to the people at the DoD, but every

1202
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:42,680
time we catch somebody selling secrets, their name is always

1203
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:47,359
like Ching Chong Lee. Actually, I remember one of the

1204
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:51,520
very first things I heard you do was a episode

1205
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:55,760
you did with Jocko and this is you're the only

1206
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:58,079
other person at that time that I had heard talk

1207
01:17:58,159 --> 01:18:03,479
about the faction in the US military slash intelligence communities,

1208
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:05,239
and like, these men are not like this is not

1209
01:18:05,319 --> 01:18:10,800
a monolith. These people are often you know, have diametrically

1210
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:15,640
opposed goals. But in that episode you talked about basically

1211
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:22,399
the racial sensitivity training that was somehow also you know,

1212
01:18:23,199 --> 01:18:27,119
be on the lookout for people, you know, stealing intelligence information,

1213
01:18:27,239 --> 01:18:30,840
but also don't be racist at the same time, so

1214
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:34,840
you'd have to parse those people out too. I don't

1215
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:37,039
know how you go about doing that bit, because it

1216
01:18:37,079 --> 01:18:38,880
seems that a lot of the people that are selling

1217
01:18:39,199 --> 01:18:43,520
US intelligence and US sensitive intellectual property seem to be

1218
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:48,760
second generation. You see the problem in the UK a lot.

1219
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:53,279
It's not the first generation Arabs that are the hyper

1220
01:18:53,359 --> 01:18:56,279
extreme ones. It's the second and third generation that are

1221
01:18:56,399 --> 01:19:00,159
you know, full on isis in the streets. So it's

1222
01:19:00,159 --> 01:19:02,319
the ones that are actually born here that are trying

1223
01:19:02,319 --> 01:19:04,439
to tear the country down, which is I don't know

1224
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:07,239
how to how I how to go about squaring that circle.

1225
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 3: What you know, it's like that's a that's something you

1226
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:13,159
almost have to call like a natural process just because

1227
01:19:13,159 --> 01:19:16,399
it's occurred in so many other contexts where you look

1228
01:19:16,399 --> 01:19:20,720
at you know, when when during the Great Migration, when

1229
01:19:21,079 --> 01:19:22,960
the Blacks all moved out of the South up into

1230
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:26,760
the northern and western cities. You know, it wasn't the

1231
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:30,039
first generation for the most part that really really went

1232
01:19:30,119 --> 01:19:33,800
up there and you know, trashed the inner cities. I

1233
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:36,079
mean it was to a degree they were you know, rowdy,

1234
01:19:36,359 --> 01:19:38,800
illiterate Southerners for the most part, you know, who were

1235
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:40,560
in the big city for the first time. So there

1236
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:42,560
was an element of that, But it wasn't until you

1237
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:45,600
got up to the nineteen sixties when that first generation's

1238
01:19:46,079 --> 01:19:49,359
kids began to turn into grown men. Eighteen nineteen twenty

1239
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:53,760
year old kids or men who you know, they had

1240
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:56,399
carried a lot more resentment, a lot more of an

1241
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:58,960
identity crisis, a lot more of all these things that

1242
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:01,479
they had to compensate for than their parents ever did.

1243
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:03,680
And you see it in the US. Like I knew

1244
01:20:04,319 --> 01:20:05,960
when I lived down in SoCal, I knew a lot

1245
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:10,000
of people who worked in education in LA and Orange County.

1246
01:20:10,239 --> 01:20:11,960
So I used to I used to date a woman

1247
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:16,159
who was a vice principal down there, and you know,

1248
01:20:16,279 --> 01:20:19,640
she would point out to me that, you know, they

1249
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:23,600
like the America is a nation of immigrants. People. They

1250
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:28,439
love to point to statistics that show that American citizens, uh,

1251
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:31,760
you know, have a higher crime rate than immigrants. Right,

1252
01:20:32,079 --> 01:20:35,319
I've never like studied that deeply. I'm willing to believe it,

1253
01:20:35,359 --> 01:20:37,680
Like I'm willing to believe that that first generation of

1254
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:40,479
immigrants comes in. But look at their kids. It's a

1255
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:44,079
totally different story. You know, the people in education that

1256
01:20:44,079 --> 01:20:46,159
I would be talking to down there, they would say

1257
01:20:46,199 --> 01:20:48,720
that they have these parents. You know, dad works in

1258
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:51,840
a field, mom works cleaning up a hotel. They're both

1259
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:54,960
like basically just hard working, normal Catholic people and they're

1260
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:58,000
coming to the vice principal, coming to the school administration saying,

1261
01:20:58,039 --> 01:20:59,479
I don't know what to do with my kids, Like

1262
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:01,439
they all want to be gangbangers, they all want to

1263
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:03,640
be this want to be that. You know, they're out

1264
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:06,560
flying a Mexican flag at a protest like you told

1265
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:08,680
them not to go to. You know, it's very much

1266
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:11,960
that second generation that was raised up in American culture,

1267
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:14,880
and you have to attribute part of it to American

1268
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:17,079
culture and media, but I think there's also just a

1269
01:21:17,119 --> 01:21:20,279
more natural element where you know, there's an identity crisis

1270
01:21:20,319 --> 01:21:22,880
that kind of takes place among people like that, especially

1271
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:26,760
when you know the the woman that I dated, it

1272
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:30,119
was the vice principal. She was a Palestinian woman Arab,

1273
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:34,000
and you know, she grew up just like a lot

1274
01:21:34,039 --> 01:21:38,560
of the Palestinian just Arab immigrants at the time before

1275
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:40,520
they made their money and moved down to you know,

1276
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:43,399
nicer parts of Orange County and stuff. She lived down

1277
01:21:43,399 --> 01:21:47,039
in Southgate in South LA and basically Latino community, Latino

1278
01:21:47,119 --> 01:21:50,199
black Arab community. And when she was a kid, and

1279
01:21:51,239 --> 01:21:52,800
you know, one of the things that they will tell

1280
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:55,319
you and Latinas will tell you the same thing. You know,

1281
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:58,159
if they don't think that, you know, they're they're in

1282
01:21:58,199 --> 01:22:01,079
a conversation where it's going to be, you know, heard

1283
01:22:01,119 --> 01:22:03,279
the wrong way. I guess is they'll tell you that,

1284
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:07,199
you know, in their communities, being with a white guy

1285
01:22:07,319 --> 01:22:12,199
is like a status symbol, and that's something that creates

1286
01:22:12,239 --> 01:22:15,840
a great deal of resentment among you know, the the

1287
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:18,520
other women as well, especially the men. You know, you

1288
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:21,239
saw this very much in the like Black Power movement

1289
01:22:21,239 --> 01:22:23,840
in nineteen sixties. Because to this day, you know, you

1290
01:22:24,279 --> 01:22:28,560
if you if you go to I've seen the numbers before.

1291
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:31,600
But it's not something they study or published very often,

1292
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:34,960
but they but they have. And the numbers of black

1293
01:22:35,039 --> 01:22:38,079
women who go to university, graduate with a four year

1294
01:22:38,119 --> 01:22:40,800
degree who end up marrying black men is very low.

1295
01:22:41,319 --> 01:22:43,520
You know, a huge number of them end up marrying

1296
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:46,359
into the white community, essentially leaving the black community behind.

1297
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:51,800
And you know that kind of thing. It creates resentment

1298
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:54,439
within communities, you know, and and it creates a sort

1299
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:57,239
of identity crisis among the next generation that comes up.

1300
01:22:57,279 --> 01:22:59,199
It's trying to figure out who and what they are.

1301
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:02,760
And you know, in a country like China, I mean,

1302
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:06,840
I imagine if any of us were to go over to China,

1303
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:11,319
they would probably have a dedicated agent tracking our every movement,

1304
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:13,640
listening to our phone calls. They would know every single

1305
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:16,159
thing we did in that country, and so it's much

1306
01:23:16,279 --> 01:23:18,680
much much harder for us to take advantage of any

1307
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:22,079
kind of you know, any kind of fissures or cracks

1308
01:23:22,079 --> 01:23:24,640
that might exist in a society like that, whereas over

1309
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:26,640
here in our open society.

1310
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 5: You know.

1311
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 3: Again, like you said in that converence, that training that

1312
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:31,880
I had, it was it was opsect training where they

1313
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:34,359
were telling us how to look for internal threats, you know,

1314
01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:38,239
people who might be in gambling debts or whatever, because

1315
01:23:38,239 --> 01:23:41,239
they might, you know, be vulnerable to blackmail or selling information.

1316
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:44,119
And they went through all of these real world examples,

1317
01:23:44,119 --> 01:23:46,399
like ten of them, and all of them except for one,

1318
01:23:46,399 --> 01:23:48,640
there was one guy who had gotten a divorce and

1319
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:50,079
lost a lot of money and was in a lot

1320
01:23:50,079 --> 01:23:53,600
of gambling debt. But all like nine out of the ten,

1321
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:57,079
we're all Chinese Americans who were spying for China, Jewish

1322
01:23:57,119 --> 01:23:59,680
Americans spying for Israel, just all of them. And that

1323
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:01,680
was when I raise my hand and asked the question,

1324
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:04,680
and they told me, just we don't. You were instructed

1325
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:07,239
not to consider that as part of the information that

1326
01:24:07,279 --> 01:24:09,920
you're you know that you're looking at and that's a

1327
01:24:10,039 --> 01:24:11,880
that's a difficult thing in the United States that a

1328
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:13,239
lot of other countries just don't have.

1329
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:18,600
Speaker 6: Do you think that that is going to be one

1330
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:21,720
of the things that have to go away? I mean

1331
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:23,640
because I mean as far as like the black community,

1332
01:24:24,119 --> 01:24:28,279
the probably the greatest single, you know, bit of damage

1333
01:24:28,319 --> 01:24:32,840
that was ever done to it was desegregation. Right, Nobody

1334
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:37,399
talks about the absolute apocalypse of black business. That happens

1335
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:40,000
like if you were you had black banks, you had

1336
01:24:40,079 --> 01:24:45,600
black grocery stores, credit unions, black insurance companies, black energy companies,

1337
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:52,079
and the second the day after integration, you basically told

1338
01:24:52,079 --> 01:24:55,960
the black community, much like you were talking about with

1339
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:59,159
with uh, you know who they're trying to date. If

1340
01:24:59,159 --> 01:25:01,760
you give a black the choice between, hey, do you

1341
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:03,279
want to put your money in a black bank or

1342
01:25:03,279 --> 01:25:04,720
a white bank, what do you think he's going to do?

1343
01:25:06,079 --> 01:25:09,399
And we bankrupted black business literally overnight.

1344
01:25:10,119 --> 01:25:14,520
Speaker 7: Well to understand that though properly is that what at

1345
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:18,079
the time, It wasn't people that you would call right

1346
01:25:18,119 --> 01:25:22,560
wing racialists that were responsible for that. It was progressives.

1347
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:26,279
They wanted that they wanted everyone to be together. They

1348
01:25:26,279 --> 01:25:28,840
didn't want a black bank and a white bank. They

1349
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:33,439
wanted everyone to do. They wanted equality for everyone. When

1350
01:25:34,119 --> 01:25:37,439
you know something that Daryl talked about earlier about you know,

1351
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:42,319
just basically teaching uncivilized people how to live in this country.

1352
01:25:43,359 --> 01:25:48,680
To his his tweet about you know what he sees

1353
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:52,239
happening to Europe, I mean, I think this is one

1354
01:25:52,239 --> 01:25:55,439
of the reasons why Eric Prince talks so much about

1355
01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:59,760
Africa now, is if you don't do something about Africa,

1356
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:03,119
and I mean, I know people have gone in there

1357
01:26:03,159 --> 01:26:07,119
and oh, we've tried to civilize them and are yeah, okay, fine,

1358
01:26:08,039 --> 01:26:10,359
don't try to turn them into white people. Figure out

1359
01:26:10,359 --> 01:26:13,800
what's best for them, how something works for them, and

1360
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:16,479
then stay there until you can produce people who can

1361
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:19,680
actually reproduce it. But if you don't do something about

1362
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:23,039
them too, they're just going to overtake Europe. And if

1363
01:26:23,039 --> 01:26:26,319
they overtake Europe, they're going to come here. So I mean,

1364
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:30,920
this is I know white people, you know, our guys

1365
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:33,600
don't want to hear this, mostly because they don't want

1366
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:36,479
to do anything. They just want to post on Twitter

1367
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:38,800
and they want to listen to podcasts. Thank you for

1368
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:42,279
listening to podcasts. I appreciate it, but maybe you really

1369
01:26:42,319 --> 01:26:44,239
have to start doing something too, and you have to

1370
01:26:44,279 --> 01:26:50,039
start thinking about ways that the future going forward for

1371
01:26:50,199 --> 01:26:53,640
all peoples. Because you can say, we just have to

1372
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:58,000
figure out how to what's best for us and take

1373
01:26:58,039 --> 01:27:01,520
care of ourselves, but the actually that army is going

1374
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:03,880
to come to you, and it's just a matter of

1375
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:06,119
are you going to be able to hold the army off?

1376
01:27:06,199 --> 01:27:13,279
Or you go, what's there's a future that entails doing

1377
01:27:13,359 --> 01:27:15,880
stuff And it doesn't seem like we can do stuff

1378
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:18,720
now because we're under occupation and everything. But if you

1379
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:23,479
if we don't start acting now, then there really is

1380
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:26,720
no future. There's the future is going to be very

1381
01:27:27,119 --> 01:27:35,840
very isolated into different spots and yeah, you're waiting for

1382
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:39,359
somebody to just come and you know, overrun you. And

1383
01:27:39,399 --> 01:27:42,399
now maybe we can develop technology that if an army

1384
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:46,199
shows up, we can vaporize them. But okay, who's doing that?

1385
01:27:46,279 --> 01:27:48,199
Who's who's doing it? Or are you doing that little

1386
01:27:48,319 --> 01:27:51,000
that research in your community of two thousand people.

1387
01:27:53,039 --> 01:27:55,840
Speaker 6: So I think to Pete's point and too Darryl's point,

1388
01:27:56,359 --> 01:28:01,279
right A, you have the need for hemispheric leadership. You

1389
01:28:01,359 --> 01:28:06,840
have the lack of opportunities, frankly because of the financialization

1390
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:11,479
of the economy and systematic exclusion. But you have a

1391
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:15,920
lot of I mean everyone talks about like the competency crisis,

1392
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:18,119
and I really don't think it is a competency crisis

1393
01:28:18,159 --> 01:28:21,800
at all. Right, Like, I'm not a navy guy, but

1394
01:28:22,079 --> 01:28:25,000
you can pretty much take the average white kid and

1395
01:28:25,039 --> 01:28:28,119
teach him how to run a nuclear reactor ten thousand

1396
01:28:28,119 --> 01:28:31,439
feet underwater in about two years, a little less than

1397
01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:36,479
two years. So there's really nothing that I think our

1398
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:39,920
guys can't learn in a relatively small amount of time.

1399
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:46,439
They've just been excluded from these opportunities. I think colonialism

1400
01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:50,920
solves all this, and I mean, really I do. I

1401
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:54,520
know mister Prince probably agrees with that. But if you

1402
01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:58,600
go to India, I don't recommend you do, especially not now.

1403
01:29:00,119 --> 01:29:04,000
You ask a majority of the Indians over fifty you

1404
01:29:04,039 --> 01:29:07,319
know what political reality they want, and they will tell

1405
01:29:07,359 --> 01:29:10,640
you full throatedly that they want the brit They wish

1406
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:12,680
the British would come back. You could say the exact

1407
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:20,000
same thing for Africa, right almost. I mean even in

1408
01:29:20,039 --> 01:29:25,920
South Africa, right where it's politically you know, it's bad

1409
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:30,640
politically to say something like this. But I think we

1410
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:34,800
need to get over our squeamishness that leadership is a

1411
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:40,319
hands on thing, right, It's a way. You know, you're

1412
01:29:40,319 --> 01:29:45,479
not going to teach you know, the Guatemalan about American

1413
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:48,840
leadership unless you're doing it, you know, where he can

1414
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:52,000
see it, right, where he can see the benefit of

1415
01:29:52,119 --> 01:29:56,199
your way of doing things versus not it. Also, I mean,

1416
01:29:59,199 --> 01:30:03,520
there's we can either fight over the same pie and

1417
01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:05,960
then we have to be exclusionary to be like, Okay,

1418
01:30:06,079 --> 01:30:12,039
well you're not part of this group of white young

1419
01:30:12,039 --> 01:30:14,479
men that have been excluded from the professional environment, so

1420
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:17,359
we need to remove you and we need to put

1421
01:30:17,359 --> 01:30:21,520
these guys back in. That'll be really, really difficult. But

1422
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:24,840
if you just expand the pie, you solve a lot

1423
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:27,640
of problems at once. But the US would have to

1424
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:32,600
get over this, like colonialism is bad thing because if

1425
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:34,439
you look at what happened to the quality of lives

1426
01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:37,119
of these people, the worst thing that ever happened to

1427
01:30:37,159 --> 01:30:38,079
them was that we left.

1428
01:30:41,039 --> 01:30:44,199
Speaker 3: There are moves being made in that direction, and Prince

1429
01:30:44,359 --> 01:30:46,319
is actually a big part of it. I know a

1430
01:30:46,359 --> 01:30:50,199
few guys who run a company that Prince is on

1431
01:30:50,239 --> 01:30:53,359
the board. Is one of their consultants and right now

1432
01:30:53,359 --> 01:30:56,039
they're trying to or they're in the process of buying

1433
01:30:56,079 --> 01:31:00,520
a cobalt mine, cobalt processing plant in the Congo. And

1434
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:03,640
this is something that really would not have been I mean,

1435
01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:05,880
it would have been hyper speculative, you know, if you

1436
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:07,760
would have tried it just a few years ago. But

1437
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:11,119
the Trump administration, we've got some We've got some very

1438
01:31:11,159 --> 01:31:13,279
smart guys who are like young guys who are in

1439
01:31:13,359 --> 01:31:16,039
the administration like doing work. You know, they're not necessarily

1440
01:31:16,079 --> 01:31:18,479
the ones saying yes or no, but the ones who

1441
01:31:18,479 --> 01:31:20,720
are who are putting out. We've got some solid guys

1442
01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:23,239
in there, a lot of them working for VANCE. But

1443
01:31:23,239 --> 01:31:26,359
but but throughout the administration and State Department other places,

1444
01:31:27,079 --> 01:31:29,800
and what the Trump administration did was set up an

1445
01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:34,199
agency that essentially provides political risk insurance for somebody who's

1446
01:31:34,239 --> 01:31:36,359
willing to go in and try to do something like

1447
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:39,800
purchase a you know, a cobalt mining plant in uh

1448
01:31:40,319 --> 01:31:43,760
in the Congo and doing it in ways where they're

1449
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:47,239
trying to like very actively, like very consciously trying to

1450
01:31:47,279 --> 01:31:51,319
develop an economic elite in that country. That is somebody

1451
01:31:51,319 --> 01:31:53,399
that are people that we can work with and have

1452
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:56,840
goals that we consider you know, worthy of just not

1453
01:31:56,840 --> 01:31:59,319
not only their country, but in our own interests as well.

1454
01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:01,800
You know. The problem, of course, like for for a

1455
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:04,479
long time, is that this type of economic colonialism has

1456
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:07,039
taken the form of, you know, we're doing it so

1457
01:32:07,079 --> 01:32:11,079
that you legalize public butt sex, you know, and that's

1458
01:32:11,079 --> 01:32:14,239
something that thankfully for the moment, you know, for the

1459
01:32:14,279 --> 01:32:17,920
time being, has been put aside. The headwinds that people

1460
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:23,079
like that are facing, though, are that you know, like

1461
01:32:23,079 --> 01:32:26,399
like you ask, okay, the people in power, they get

1462
01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:29,640
accused all the time of being just in it for money,

1463
01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:32,640
They're selling their souls all this kind of stuff. Wouldn't

1464
01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:34,520
like you would think if it were just like a

1465
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:37,560
straightforward version of that, that they would have a problem

1466
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:41,000
with a half a trillion dollars leaving the country every

1467
01:32:41,039 --> 01:32:43,920
year in remittances. But they don't. And the reason is

1468
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:45,880
that there is there are a lot of these people

1469
01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:50,039
who are very much in the mode of just the

1470
01:32:50,079 --> 01:32:53,359
party's ending. Soon, steal the fucking silverware and get out,

1471
01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:55,680
you know, and and take the take the nice door

1472
01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:58,079
knobs off, and all the nice faucets and just get

1473
01:32:58,079 --> 01:33:01,159
the hell out. And you know, just as a specific example,

1474
01:33:01,199 --> 01:33:06,479
of that. I have this from an absolutely unimpeachable cabinet

1475
01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:09,600
level source. I can't go further than that. Right now,

1476
01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:11,600
I'm working on how to, you know, talking to a

1477
01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:15,279
few people about how to make it more detailed in public.

1478
01:33:15,319 --> 01:33:19,960
But that, Susie Wilds, the Chief of Staff, is just

1479
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:24,039
straight up, very openly like Tammany Hall style. Anybody that

1480
01:33:24,239 --> 01:33:28,039
wants to talk to the president has got to make

1481
01:33:28,039 --> 01:33:31,279
a forty thousand dollars dollar donation to her consulting company

1482
01:33:31,319 --> 01:33:35,079
per month or two hundred thousand dollars per year. And

1483
01:33:35,119 --> 01:33:38,319
it's just very very briefcase under the cash style like

1484
01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:42,399
nineteenth century like open corruption, you know. And again that

1485
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:46,760
is from an absolutely unimpeachable cabinet level source. And there's

1486
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:48,920
a lot of people who are like that. And so

1487
01:33:49,039 --> 01:33:50,800
we have like a lot of good guys who are

1488
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:55,000
trying to advance these goals in the administration, but they

1489
01:33:55,039 --> 01:33:57,000
got to deal with people like that, you know, you

1490
01:33:57,119 --> 01:33:58,960
got to deal with I know a guy who was

1491
01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:02,000
at dinner with Tom home one on one and no, no,

1492
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:05,199
I'm sorry he was. He was at dinner with a

1493
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:09,720
Texas sheriff who had who knows Tom Holman very well

1494
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:12,600
and had worked with his people on a big operation

1495
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:17,640
down there recently, and he was saying that Tom said that,

1496
01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:19,560
you know, this is these are the kind of things

1497
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:23,359
that just make our system very difficult to work around.

1498
01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:26,319
That Christy Nome wants to run for president in twenty

1499
01:34:26,359 --> 01:34:29,399
twenty eight, and so she's actually slow rolling a lot

1500
01:34:29,399 --> 01:34:32,800
of the attempts to engage in mass deportations any of

1501
01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:36,239
these things that would look like, you know, either massive

1502
01:34:36,279 --> 01:34:39,199
successes for people like Vance, who's you know, closer to

1503
01:34:39,399 --> 01:34:41,760
closer to the president and sort of the obvious successor,

1504
01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:47,199
but also look at the by the Republican and other

1505
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:50,399
people whose support that she's going to want as her

1506
01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:53,520
you know, sort of going along with this barbaric practice

1507
01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:55,560
and blah blah blah. So she's like actively as the

1508
01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:59,840
head of DHS, actively stonewalling the attempts to you know,

1509
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:03,239
to engage in the deportation process and and home, and

1510
01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:05,720
very often is having to find ways to do it

1511
01:35:06,359 --> 01:35:09,800
where they can just basically go around the DHS infrastructure,

1512
01:35:10,119 --> 01:35:15,079
you know, like the the one in particular where in

1513
01:35:15,119 --> 01:35:17,399
Texas that I'm talking about, Like he had to go

1514
01:35:17,479 --> 01:35:19,880
actually and work with a lower level guy at the

1515
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:22,880
FBI and use their resources to go down and round

1516
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:24,520
up a bunch of these people because it was a

1517
01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:27,319
small enough number that they could handle it with local,

1518
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:30,439
local resources and some help from the FBI, without having

1519
01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:32,880
to run it all the way up to the DHS

1520
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:34,960
flag pole. And so these are the kind of things

1521
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:37,239
that make it very, very difficult. But there are people

1522
01:35:37,239 --> 01:35:39,560
in there who understand what you're saying, that you know,

1523
01:35:39,640 --> 01:35:43,399
colonial like a benevolent colonialism, you know, a sort of

1524
01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:49,000
a sort of you know, almost almost Marshall Plan for

1525
01:35:49,199 --> 01:35:52,600
the Western hemisphere, you know, idea that like, you know,

1526
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:55,039
you can you can put one hundred foot wall up

1527
01:35:55,079 --> 01:35:58,640
lined with machine guns. You know, Israel tried that and

1528
01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:01,239
they still get through from time to time, and it's

1529
01:36:01,239 --> 01:36:04,439
still a problem for them. And as long as uh,

1530
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:07,920
you know, we have economic policies and just governmental and

1531
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:12,359
social systems in Latin America that are completely fucked, it's

1532
01:36:12,399 --> 01:36:14,680
just it's it's gonna be a permanent problem and the

1533
01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:18,000
only way to really permanently fix it. Like, I don't

1534
01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:20,840
know what the numbers are of people fleeing El Salvador

1535
01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:22,880
for the United States right now, but I imagine they're

1536
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:24,439
a hell of a lot lower than they used to be,

1537
01:36:25,159 --> 01:36:27,760
you know. And uh, if you could get twenty more

1538
01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:31,279
bouquels and you know, actually have some governments and uh

1539
01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:34,920
that that that were not just you know, systematic looting

1540
01:36:34,920 --> 01:36:39,119
operations basically in these countries, then you know, you could

1541
01:36:39,119 --> 01:36:42,279
stem the tide a bit that way. And and and

1542
01:36:42,319 --> 01:36:44,159
I think that you know, in a way, yeah, like

1543
01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:47,720
if Africa takes over Europe, they're eventually coming here is

1544
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:50,279
kind of a thing. But you know, obviously you have

1545
01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:53,399
the oceans between us. But also I think it's a

1546
01:36:53,439 --> 01:36:56,800
lot easier for people, you know, if we were much

1547
01:36:56,840 --> 01:36:59,439
more integrated and seen as a natural leader of the

1548
01:36:59,439 --> 01:37:02,720
Western head hemisphere, as the protector of the Western hemisphere,

1549
01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:05,079
and seen that way by the other countries you know

1550
01:37:05,119 --> 01:37:08,119
that are here with us, it's a lot easier for

1551
01:37:08,239 --> 01:37:14,159
your average American sort of normy Christian type to justify

1552
01:37:14,199 --> 01:37:18,680
and rationalize to themselves. Uh, keeping people from you know,

1553
01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:22,079
from over the oceans, from coming across the oceans and

1554
01:37:22,079 --> 01:37:23,800
coming in here, en Moss and the same type of

1555
01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:26,279
numbers that we've dealt with from Latin America. They can

1556
01:37:26,359 --> 01:37:28,760
they can justify that to themselves, especially if they can

1557
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:32,279
frame it in terms of protecting the Western hemisphere itself,

1558
01:37:32,319 --> 01:37:35,880
you know, and being leaders of the Western hemisphere. But

1559
01:37:35,960 --> 01:37:37,920
it does require like a you know, a lot more

1560
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:40,760
integration with our hemispheric neighbors, you know, which it's very

1561
01:37:40,840 --> 01:37:44,039
unfortunate that due to uh, you know, a lot of

1562
01:37:44,079 --> 01:37:45,640
it due to the Cold War, but a lot of

1563
01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:49,359
it due to just economic practices and and and the

1564
01:37:49,359 --> 01:37:52,319
way we managed relations with a lot of Latin America

1565
01:37:53,159 --> 01:37:55,279
in the you know, the early years of sort of

1566
01:37:55,319 --> 01:37:58,399
advanced capitalism. We have a lot of we have a

1567
01:37:58,399 --> 01:38:01,600
lot of ending of fences to do, you know, a

1568
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:04,279
lot of bridges to rebuild with a lot of those countries.

1569
01:38:04,319 --> 01:38:08,479
But we can totally do it. And and I think that,

1570
01:38:08,640 --> 01:38:11,199
you know, one of the things is about it too,

1571
01:38:11,279 --> 01:38:13,640
is it? You know? And this sounds like something I

1572
01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:15,520
mentioned this to my wife the other day or a

1573
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:18,159
version of this, and you know, she's always very much

1574
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:21,319
in the in the in the mode of like, well,

1575
01:38:21,359 --> 01:38:23,279
we don't need any of that. We just need like

1576
01:38:23,399 --> 01:38:25,960
somebody in charge, people in charge who are willing to

1577
01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:28,039
bring out the tanks if they have to and roll

1578
01:38:28,079 --> 01:38:31,920
over any resistance. And I say, yeah, like theoretically that's true,

1579
01:38:32,239 --> 01:38:37,319
but realistically. You know, you have to give the American

1580
01:38:37,399 --> 01:38:41,399
people like like a moral escape route. You know, you

1581
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:44,079
have to be able to let them frame things in

1582
01:38:44,119 --> 01:38:46,640
a way that doesn't make them feel like like a

1583
01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:49,279
like an Unchristian kind of terrible person. Even if a

1584
01:38:49,319 --> 01:38:51,319
lot of it is just been siopped into them since

1585
01:38:51,319 --> 01:38:53,640
they were little kids, it's still there and we still

1586
01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:57,279
have to deal with that. And you know, further integration

1587
01:38:57,479 --> 01:39:00,399
with Latin America and the Latin Americans who are in

1588
01:39:00,439 --> 01:39:02,800
this country, who are who are here and want to

1589
01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:05,560
be here, and who are willing to be Americans, I

1590
01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:07,640
think it gives them a lot of the moral cover

1591
01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:09,800
that they would need to do the other hard things

1592
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:10,800
that would be necessary.

1593
01:39:12,079 --> 01:39:14,279
Speaker 6: Canada has to go. I mean, we talked about a

1594
01:39:14,359 --> 01:39:18,079
narco state on our border. That's basically Canada. I mean,

1595
01:39:18,119 --> 01:39:23,560
you've got members of the CCP Intelligence Apparatus as MP's

1596
01:39:23,880 --> 01:39:25,119
in the Canadian Parliament.

1597
01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:30,000
Speaker 7: Dude, you have, you have, you have Indian government sanctioned

1598
01:39:30,119 --> 01:39:32,439
hits being carried out in Canada.

1599
01:39:33,199 --> 01:39:38,560
Speaker 6: Yep. The out of all of the arguments that we

1600
01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:42,039
just made for a more benevolent type of way to

1601
01:39:42,119 --> 01:39:51,600
view our politics, the Indians Cattaco I mean it's you know,

1602
01:39:52,560 --> 01:39:56,000
there are two nationalists like they'll never they never integrate.

1603
01:39:56,279 --> 01:39:58,680
There's there's only one nationalism that's going to have to

1604
01:39:58,760 --> 01:39:59,239
be allowed.

1605
01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:09,000
Speaker 7: It's I mean, it's it's diaspe people, Zionism, Hinduism.

1606
01:40:09,720 --> 01:40:12,359
Speaker 6: But well, if Zionism is the same as Indianism, now

1607
01:40:15,119 --> 01:40:16,720
ender of Israeli.

1608
01:40:16,279 --> 01:40:20,840
Speaker 7: States is you're pretty aligned. You know, I'm not calling

1609
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:24,880
for dealing with diaspora groups the way Stalin did, but

1610
01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:28,840
it's interesting that Stalin understood exactly what the ospital, what

1611
01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:32,680
could a the ospera group could do to what he

1612
01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:37,680
was building there. And yeah, and it's also interesting that

1613
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:43,319
you really even after nineteen forty eight, it took a

1614
01:40:43,359 --> 01:40:47,840
couple of years and he died in what fifty four, Sarah,

1615
01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:49,720
it took it took a couple of years for him

1616
01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:53,039
to understand that now that Israel was a state, that Okay,

1617
01:40:53,079 --> 01:40:56,039
we may have a problem here, but yeah, I mean,

1618
01:40:56,199 --> 01:41:01,640
when everything Darryl's saying is correct, and we could do

1619
01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:07,039
all this, but we're occupied. And until that occupation is

1620
01:41:07,159 --> 01:41:10,159
dealt with, you know, until you have somebody who can

1621
01:41:10,279 --> 01:41:13,000
run and I think everyone knows by now, I'm not

1622
01:41:13,079 --> 01:41:15,880
a national politics guy. But until you have someone who

1623
01:41:15,880 --> 01:41:19,279
can run for president who is openly anti Zionist, who's

1624
01:41:19,319 --> 01:41:22,640
openly anti Israel, like or or at least no, not

1625
01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:26,079
even anti Israel, but like now we're not gonna know. No,

1626
01:41:26,199 --> 01:41:30,199
they're just like Mandami. I think Cameron McGregor made a

1627
01:41:30,199 --> 01:41:32,159
really good point when he was on my show recently.

1628
01:41:32,239 --> 01:41:36,680
He said, Mamdami getting elected, Mandammi getting elected in New

1629
01:41:36,760 --> 01:41:39,560
York should be a white pill for people who understand,

1630
01:41:39,640 --> 01:41:44,359
you know, who are anti Zionist power, because even if

1631
01:41:44,399 --> 01:41:47,199
he is not anti Zionist, even if this is all

1632
01:41:47,199 --> 01:41:49,600
an act, and even if he's going to kiss the wall,

1633
01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:52,600
you know, in a couple of weeks, the people voted

1634
01:41:52,680 --> 01:41:54,680
for somebody who was like, yeah, we know, we don't

1635
01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:57,920
care about that country over there. No, it's it's here.

1636
01:41:58,720 --> 01:42:01,600
The reason I'm I want to be mayor is I

1637
01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:03,920
want to take care of New Yorkers. Now we know

1638
01:42:03,960 --> 01:42:06,279
he just wants to. He's a gay race communist is

1639
01:42:06,319 --> 01:42:10,119
basically what he is. He's not an undercover Muslim, he's Obama.

1640
01:42:10,199 --> 01:42:13,600
He's a gay race communist. But still what the people

1641
01:42:13,760 --> 01:42:15,800
chose should be a white pill.

1642
01:42:17,560 --> 01:42:23,039
Speaker 6: I agree. I think anti we'll call it like anti

1643
01:42:23,239 --> 01:42:29,239
zionist interventionism and anti zionist fiscal support is going to

1644
01:42:29,319 --> 01:42:32,960
be on the ticket in twenty twenty six. Right the midterms,

1645
01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:37,640
it's already happening, like the congressman getting the most traction

1646
01:42:39,359 --> 01:42:41,640
basically to primary some of the ones that are sorry,

1647
01:42:41,640 --> 01:42:44,720
the future congressman in the process of primarying some of

1648
01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:47,119
the existing congressmen. The ones that are running on the

1649
01:42:47,119 --> 01:42:50,479
fact that they are taking no A pack dollars are

1650
01:42:50,520 --> 01:42:52,840
getting a tremendous amount of traction and they don't have

1651
01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:56,359
to pay one red cent to any marketing company for

1652
01:42:56,479 --> 01:43:03,039
any of that traction because it's organic, isn't. Susie Wiles

1653
01:43:03,079 --> 01:43:07,199
the former campaign manager for Benjamin Nett and Yahoo that

1654
01:43:07,359 --> 01:43:08,279
Susie wild.

1655
01:43:08,600 --> 01:43:11,119
Speaker 3: I don't remember who's the campaign manager, but she definitely

1656
01:43:11,199 --> 01:43:12,159
ran something for him.

1657
01:43:12,239 --> 01:43:19,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh man, Yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't.

1658
01:43:19,119 --> 01:43:23,159
Speaker 7: It's literally it's comical at this point. It's common. It's

1659
01:43:23,239 --> 01:43:26,239
comical at this point that when you when you bring

1660
01:43:26,359 --> 01:43:29,520
somebody up, it's like, you know, Josh Hammer running, Douglas

1661
01:43:29,600 --> 01:43:32,439
Murray running all over the place. Right, Oh, you're woke, right,

1662
01:43:32,479 --> 01:43:38,279
you're woke. Right. They write speeches for Israeli politicians and

1663
01:43:38,319 --> 01:43:39,800
they're not registered under Farah.

1664
01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:44,199
Speaker 6: All I want is just what it was nationalism for me.

1665
01:43:45,079 --> 01:43:48,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly, it's.

1666
01:43:48,680 --> 01:43:52,800
Speaker 6: All I want. Somebody. Can we just have a little

1667
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:56,359
bit of what Israel has? Yeah, it's this is going

1668
01:43:56,399 --> 01:43:58,800
to be the pass through.

1669
01:43:59,640 --> 01:44:03,680
Speaker 7: Yeah. And it goes back to the whole thing about like, look, man,

1670
01:44:04,199 --> 01:44:07,399
I'm my family is not heritage American. I have nowhere

1671
01:44:07,399 --> 01:44:11,239
else to go. I have no I have notes ties,

1672
01:44:11,399 --> 01:44:14,159
I've lived in another country before I came back. Why

1673
01:44:15,119 --> 01:44:18,880
I didn't belong there. It's just I have no place

1674
01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:20,720
off to go, man, So I'm.

1675
01:44:20,560 --> 01:44:24,560
Speaker 3: Gonna fa In twelve Block's novel Submission, the guy is

1676
01:44:24,560 --> 01:44:28,359
a Jewish girlfriend who's leaving for Israel because things are,

1677
01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:31,239
you know, becoming Muslim in France, and he tells her,

1678
01:44:31,239 --> 01:44:32,520
I don't have an Israel to go to.

1679
01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:42,039
Speaker 6: And then anyways, it's a fantastic book.

1680
01:44:43,279 --> 01:44:47,520
Speaker 3: I mean, look, you know the the Yeah, it's really amazing.

1681
01:44:47,560 --> 01:44:53,760
How Yeah, when you read something like Cuddy's book The

1682
01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:58,039
Ordeal of Civility, and then you look at the just

1683
01:44:58,159 --> 01:45:03,039
the smooth, the smooth of the propaganda that really consumed

1684
01:45:03,079 --> 01:45:05,399
us over the course of the twentieth century. What you

1685
01:45:05,479 --> 01:45:08,680
kind of realize is that that was entirely dependent on

1686
01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:12,000
having very very few media channels that could be run

1687
01:45:12,079 --> 01:45:16,560
by very very adept propagandists, and that once everything opened up,

1688
01:45:16,600 --> 01:45:19,319
I mean, you see this ordeal of civility thesis just

1689
01:45:19,399 --> 01:45:23,159
spill out into public in ways that are really radicalizing people.

1690
01:45:23,199 --> 01:45:25,199
I mean, you just you know, I don't know if

1691
01:45:25,199 --> 01:45:28,479
you guys saw the video that's been going around. I

1692
01:45:28,479 --> 01:45:31,000
think it was at that event Barry Weiss held the

1693
01:45:31,079 --> 01:45:34,199
other day or last week or whatever, and there was

1694
01:45:34,239 --> 01:45:39,680
this this female Jewish activist or institutional leader, I don't

1695
01:45:39,800 --> 01:45:41,520
even remember who she was, but she was going on

1696
01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:45,640
and on about how, you know, just they're losing the

1697
01:45:45,680 --> 01:45:49,119
younger generation because the younger generation is seeing all of

1698
01:45:49,159 --> 01:45:52,560
these pictures of destruction and dead babies in Gaza, and

1699
01:45:52,600 --> 01:45:55,479
they're filtering all of our arguments that were giving them

1700
01:45:55,479 --> 01:45:57,600
in favor of Israel, like through the lens of the

1701
01:45:57,640 --> 01:46:00,319
carnage they're witnessing, and this is something that you know,

1702
01:46:00,359 --> 01:46:02,520
we really need to get control of. And then she says,

1703
01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:05,159
you know, because for years we invested a lot, we

1704
01:46:05,279 --> 01:46:09,319
bet a lot on Holocaust education as a way, Oh yes,

1705
01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:14,199
anti Semitism, and uh, you know, but people have taken

1706
01:46:14,239 --> 01:46:17,159
the wrong lesson from that. They think the lesson is

1707
01:46:17,159 --> 01:46:20,760
that we should not be comfortable with big, strong, you know,

1708
01:46:20,960 --> 01:46:25,359
powerful people of pressing and harming smaller, weaker people. That's

1709
01:46:25,399 --> 01:46:28,680
not the lesson, you know. The and in the old days,

1710
01:46:29,279 --> 01:46:31,920
when you had three channels, you know, in a couple

1711
01:46:31,960 --> 01:46:35,560
of newspapers, whatever, there would have been like somebody in

1712
01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:38,279
the hierarchy, like before it got to the level of

1713
01:46:38,319 --> 01:46:41,920
like mass public attention, that would be like somebody, shut

1714
01:46:41,960 --> 01:46:45,720
this bitch up. Like no, that just doesn't exist anymore.

1715
01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:49,119
You know. You have this ordeal of civility just playing

1716
01:46:49,119 --> 01:46:51,840
out in public. I mean, you have guys like John

1717
01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:54,279
pod Horetz, who's one of my favorite kind of just

1718
01:46:54,640 --> 01:46:56,319
I don't know, I don't, I don't. I'm the type

1719
01:46:56,319 --> 01:46:58,960
of person I don't generally like to like go at

1720
01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:02,359
people personally. Uh when I'm want to Joe, but I

1721
01:47:02,399 --> 01:47:05,159
can't stand that prick dude, Like he's a guy who

1722
01:47:05,199 --> 01:47:07,840
Like there was this woman she was like a TV chef,

1723
01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:10,520
like I can't remember her name, TV celebrity chef type,

1724
01:47:10,560 --> 01:47:14,359
you know. Uh no it wasn't Rachel Ray, but it

1725
01:47:14,399 --> 01:47:17,159
was somebody else and she made a I mean just

1726
01:47:17,359 --> 01:47:20,800
like a miss Rachel type, just anodyne comment about like,

1727
01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:23,359
wouldn't it be great if all of this destruction in

1728
01:47:23,399 --> 01:47:27,359
Gaza stopped, you know, something, just completely inoffensive. And he

1729
01:47:27,439 --> 01:47:29,880
said he just comes out he doesn't know this woman

1730
01:47:30,199 --> 01:47:32,199
all right, and I don't know who her father or

1731
01:47:32,479 --> 01:47:35,560
brothers or husband are, where the fuck they are, But

1732
01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:38,880
he goes on in public and just says to this woman, well,

1733
01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:41,680
maybe you should keep your mouth shut, you anti Semitic

1734
01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:46,399
fucking piece of shit. And it's like Jesus, like, what

1735
01:47:46,520 --> 01:47:48,880
kind of a human being like just goes in public

1736
01:47:48,920 --> 01:47:51,399
and speaks to a woman that he doesn't know like that,

1737
01:47:51,600 --> 01:47:54,039
you know. And the answer is somebody like John pod

1738
01:47:54,039 --> 01:47:55,880
Horritz and all of his friends and they just can't

1739
01:47:55,920 --> 01:47:56,640
help themselves.

1740
01:47:56,640 --> 01:47:56,920
Speaker 5: And so.

1741
01:47:58,600 --> 01:48:01,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's in your DNA.

1742
01:48:02,119 --> 01:48:05,359
Speaker 3: Have you seen. Yeah, there was somebody passing around. It

1743
01:48:05,439 --> 01:48:09,680
was from YouTube and just other other platforms. The number

1744
01:48:09,840 --> 01:48:14,600
of subscribers by month that Daily Wire and Ben Shapiro

1745
01:48:14,680 --> 01:48:17,199
were gaining it is like over the last year, and

1746
01:48:17,279 --> 01:48:19,039
it's like, you know, the first six months are all

1747
01:48:19,039 --> 01:48:21,399
like gaining this many, gaining this many, and then around

1748
01:48:21,479 --> 01:48:24,640
April May. It's just like losing this many, losing this many,

1749
01:48:24,760 --> 01:48:26,960
just straight on through. I sent it to Tucker last

1750
01:48:27,039 --> 01:48:29,600
night and we were laughing about it because he's right, like,

1751
01:48:29,640 --> 01:48:32,119
these people are shooting themselves in the foot. All you

1752
01:48:32,199 --> 01:48:34,079
have to do is put a microphone in front of

1753
01:48:34,159 --> 01:48:37,600
them and let him speak for themselves, and the whole

1754
01:48:37,640 --> 01:48:38,479
thing unravels.

1755
01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:42,840
Speaker 1: Well, the Mark Levin tirade that I believe, I believe

1756
01:48:42,880 --> 01:48:45,920
Tucker played this specific tirade that I saw him go on,

1757
01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:49,039
and to your point about the ordeal of civility, like

1758
01:48:49,039 --> 01:48:52,319
the Ordeal of civility is basically over like because the

1759
01:48:52,359 --> 01:48:55,000
whole point of that book is is that these arguments

1760
01:48:55,000 --> 01:49:00,000
are their way of obfuskating this like racial ethnic animal

1761
01:49:00,439 --> 01:49:03,239
that's like undermining or underpinning excuse me, all of their

1762
01:49:03,239 --> 01:49:06,439
philosophies and their theories and how it's really just ethnic

1763
01:49:06,479 --> 01:49:10,399
grievances that's gone now because Mark Levine was just like,

1764
01:49:10,920 --> 01:49:14,119
you people want to kill Jews, you want to genocide us,

1765
01:49:14,720 --> 01:49:16,800
and it's not going to happen. You couldn't do it

1766
01:49:16,840 --> 01:49:18,520
before and you're not gonna be able to do it now.

1767
01:49:18,560 --> 01:49:22,399
And who is this resonating with? I mean, what person

1768
01:49:22,840 --> 01:49:26,399
listening to that young person in particular, but even also

1769
01:49:26,479 --> 01:49:29,600
even boomers like this doesn't even Mike Savage, who was

1770
01:49:29,600 --> 01:49:31,760
like remember him, did you ever listen to Michael Savage?

1771
01:49:31,800 --> 01:49:35,319
He was just a vicious pro war like genocide.

1772
01:49:35,319 --> 01:49:36,199
Speaker 2: Iraqis right.

1773
01:49:36,680 --> 01:49:39,560
Speaker 1: He never even said things like this like we are

1774
01:49:39,640 --> 01:49:40,720
so far beyond even THO.

1775
01:49:41,800 --> 01:49:45,479
Speaker 7: He's Michael Savage. I forget what he calls. He's been

1776
01:49:45,720 --> 01:49:48,880
ripping on Mark Levin lately because he realizes the damage

1777
01:49:48,920 --> 01:49:50,079
that Mark Levin is doing.

1778
01:49:50,199 --> 01:49:53,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, That's exactly my point. I didn't even know that.

1779
01:49:53,920 --> 01:49:56,279
Speaker 6: Well, this is kind of like what was happening in Weimar,

1780
01:49:56,399 --> 01:49:58,439
where you had like the German Jews who had been

1781
01:49:58,479 --> 01:50:01,439
there for Nerot makes difference, you know, six hundred years,

1782
01:50:01,439 --> 01:50:04,960
four hundred years. They're screaming at the top of their lungs.

1783
01:50:04,960 --> 01:50:07,960
I mean, don't get me wrong, like a German Jewish

1784
01:50:08,039 --> 01:50:12,199
owned media company is screaming at newly formed you know,

1785
01:50:12,640 --> 01:50:16,399
Eastern European Jewish company media companies as the only media

1786
01:50:16,439 --> 01:50:20,199
conversation happening in Germany, I mean, is a problem. But

1787
01:50:20,279 --> 01:50:22,439
they're screaming at these guys. They're like, you need to

1788
01:50:22,720 --> 01:50:25,239
like you need to settle the fuck down, or you

1789
01:50:25,319 --> 01:50:28,880
are going to get us all in a whole bunch

1790
01:50:28,920 --> 01:50:32,479
of trouble. And they said that right up until, like

1791
01:50:34,960 --> 01:50:36,840
I think it was actually after Crystal Knock. They were

1792
01:50:36,840 --> 01:50:39,039
still they were still trying to calm these fools down.

1793
01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:44,439
But they don't listen. They have no you know, volume

1794
01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:46,319
down button. It's only volume of is.

1795
01:50:46,520 --> 01:50:49,760
Speaker 1: No one wants to genocide them, No one is. They're

1796
01:50:49,800 --> 01:50:54,159
not under attack. I mean the Dave Portnoy thing, what

1797
01:50:54,239 --> 01:50:55,880
did what did the guy say, fuck Jews and he

1798
01:50:55,920 --> 01:50:58,239
threw a penny at him, Like that's the only example

1799
01:50:58,279 --> 01:51:01,000
they have of them being under a hack. You know,

1800
01:51:01,439 --> 01:51:03,319
nobody is saying this, so I don't know who it's

1801
01:51:03,319 --> 01:51:06,680
going to resonate with. And it's just uh, shooting themselves

1802
01:51:06,720 --> 01:51:07,079
in the foot.

1803
01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:12,439
Speaker 7: Literally, it's literally what bringing people would do to Italians

1804
01:51:12,479 --> 01:51:15,239
in New York or you know. I mean, it's that

1805
01:51:15,319 --> 01:51:17,960
kind of stuff that those are kind of ethnic jokes

1806
01:51:18,319 --> 01:51:20,680
that you would see in New York when I was

1807
01:51:20,680 --> 01:51:22,720
growing up in New York, you know, and it would

1808
01:51:22,760 --> 01:51:25,920
be taken as a as a joke. But the reason

1809
01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:28,479
why it's not taken as a joke, and even the

1810
01:51:28,520 --> 01:51:31,680
person who's doing it has some malice behind it is

1811
01:51:31,720 --> 01:51:35,800
because it's become so they can't shut up. I mean,

1812
01:51:35,920 --> 01:51:38,359
Dave Portnoy is one of those people, one of those

1813
01:51:38,399 --> 01:51:42,520
same people who you criticize him a little bit on

1814
01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:45,960
the smallest thing, and he starts screaming, you know, pogram

1815
01:51:46,520 --> 01:51:48,840
and you just can't do you can't do that. There

1816
01:51:48,920 --> 01:51:53,560
was some Zionist lady at the God what is this

1817
01:51:53,680 --> 01:51:56,399
thing called the Jewish Federation of North America?

1818
01:51:57,039 --> 01:52:01,439
Speaker 6: She is something something we don't control everything, Yes, of

1819
01:52:01,479 --> 01:52:02,319
North America.

1820
01:52:02,399 --> 01:52:06,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, Sarah her work, she says she mourned that

1821
01:52:07,359 --> 01:52:11,439
Western Jews reimagine Judaism as a Protestant style religion in

1822
01:52:11,520 --> 01:52:14,880
order to integrate into Western society, rather than retaining a

1823
01:52:14,920 --> 01:52:18,000
strong identity that's loyal to the state of Israel. She quoted,

1824
01:52:18,159 --> 01:52:22,560
the problem is we're not just a religion. We're a nation, civilization, tribe, peoplehood,

1825
01:52:22,760 --> 01:52:24,560
but most of all, we're a family. And so if

1826
01:52:24,560 --> 01:52:27,199
you're a young person raised in America who thinks Judaism

1827
01:52:27,199 --> 01:52:30,119
as a Protestant star religion, then the seven million Jews

1828
01:52:30,159 --> 01:52:33,760
in Israel merely your co religionists. So my co religion

1829
01:52:33,800 --> 01:52:35,840
is if I look at them, and they're not practicing

1830
01:52:35,880 --> 01:52:40,520
my religion or social justice and certain prophetic values, then

1831
01:52:40,560 --> 01:52:42,720
what do I have to do with them? But that's

1832
01:52:42,760 --> 01:52:46,000
a category era the seven million people in Israel. They're

1833
01:52:46,039 --> 01:52:49,399
not my co religionists, they're my siblings. But I think

1834
01:52:49,399 --> 01:52:51,680
if you think of them as merely your co religionists,

1835
01:52:51,680 --> 01:52:55,199
it's easy to slide into anti Zionism. You don't necessarily

1836
01:52:55,239 --> 01:52:58,159
have a connection to them. You know, she's basically saying

1837
01:52:58,159 --> 01:53:00,199
that the world should be lay the Jews are. The

1838
01:53:00,199 --> 01:53:02,760
world should be loyal to Israel no matter what Israel does,

1839
01:53:02,880 --> 01:53:06,159
not because that's the moral or truthful position, but because

1840
01:53:06,319 --> 01:53:10,960
Israel is where their loyalties really, you know, where they belong.

1841
01:53:11,159 --> 01:53:14,600
And it's like you read that and then you look

1842
01:53:14,640 --> 01:53:16,880
at Biden's cabinet, or you look at all the people,

1843
01:53:16,920 --> 01:53:20,199
you look at the person who's standing behind Donald Trump

1844
01:53:20,239 --> 01:53:24,159
every time he speaks, and you're like, well, I mean, well,

1845
01:53:24,159 --> 01:53:26,840
we don't have a country. Then we're being ruled by

1846
01:53:26,840 --> 01:53:31,239
a people who have a loyalty, and not only a loyalty,

1847
01:53:31,720 --> 01:53:38,319
but like an intense, like like blood tie to someplace else.

1848
01:53:39,119 --> 01:53:41,640
You know, it's the same, it's the same reason why

1849
01:53:41,960 --> 01:53:46,399
you know when when Ben Shapiro talks about sending money

1850
01:53:46,399 --> 01:53:49,840
to Israel, he calls it aid, and when Americans want money,

1851
01:53:49,840 --> 01:53:54,199
Ben Shapiro calls it welfare. Yeah, if you have somebody

1852
01:53:54,239 --> 01:53:57,119
here who needs money, Ben Shapiro calls it welfare. But

1853
01:53:57,159 --> 01:54:01,239
it's aid to Israel, and Israel won't survive. Yeah, fuck Americans,

1854
01:54:01,319 --> 01:54:03,880
But fuck Americans who aren't going to survive unless they

1855
01:54:03,920 --> 01:54:05,720
have unless they're able to get a check.

1856
01:54:06,279 --> 01:54:08,239
Speaker 6: You don't have a right to live where you were born.

1857
01:54:09,640 --> 01:54:15,520
Speaker 7: That's you want to know why Nick Foynes is becoming huge.

1858
01:54:15,960 --> 01:54:20,159
That Yeah, that's it right there, because Nick is pointing

1859
01:54:20,199 --> 01:54:23,039
out that you know, oh I can't I can't live

1860
01:54:23,079 --> 01:54:26,960
where my ancestors were buried. But you don't even have it.

1861
01:54:27,039 --> 01:54:30,600
Your your ties are all to Russia, you know, and

1862
01:54:30,680 --> 01:54:33,920
yet you you know, yet you want us to send

1863
01:54:34,000 --> 01:54:37,039
money to this place that you went and conquered, you know,

1864
01:54:37,319 --> 01:54:38,199
a century ago.

1865
01:54:38,800 --> 01:54:42,680
Speaker 6: It makes me think about a quote from you gentiles,

1866
01:54:43,119 --> 01:54:48,840
like we use will never be satisfied. It will never

1867
01:54:48,920 --> 01:54:52,640
be enough, no matter what you do for us, something something,

1868
01:54:52,880 --> 01:54:55,600
And then it ends with like where the destroyers of worlds?

1869
01:54:56,359 --> 01:54:58,600
Speaker 7: The craziest part of that whole book is it's just

1870
01:54:58,720 --> 01:55:01,960
one long vetch because he didn't like the nineteen twenty

1871
01:55:02,000 --> 01:55:07,359
four Immigration Act. This literally what that old? He says

1872
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it at the end of the book.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. So, but like there is no this is kind

1874
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of a one way street. Historically has been a one

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way street. So I don't know what that looks like.

1876
01:55:22,239 --> 01:55:25,119
Because America is a big place, but also this time,

1877
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because of you know, the digital environment that what's her name,

1878
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Sarah something or other that you were just quoting about,

1879
01:55:34,560 --> 01:55:40,479
it's global. So I mean, how does this how does

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this end? Anybody?

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Speaker 2: Go ahead?

1882
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Speaker 3: Darryl ah Man, I don't know. I you know, I mean,

1883
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I think that one of the uh, one of the

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big benefits of global multipolarity coming back is that you

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have powers that are rising that can actually exert themselves

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on a global stage that are not beholden to this

1887
01:56:07,399 --> 01:56:11,359
power and it you know, and it also might be

1888
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this is maybe I guess I'm of a double mind

1889
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on this. But also, like you know, the demographic transformations

1890
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that are taking place in America are also something that

1891
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like you said, with New York City, you know, I know,

1892
01:56:26,800 --> 01:56:29,359
like the white liberals they're all voted for Mom, Donnie too.

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01:56:29,399 --> 01:56:31,359
But there's you know, there are a lot of people

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there who who voted for him because they're just not

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subject to the to the Zionist propaganda regime that the

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01:56:38,399 --> 01:56:40,479
rest of us have all been taken in by, you know,

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since World War Two. And you know, so these changes

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are taking place and they are losing power. You know,

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the concern whenever you have you know, a very solipsistic

1900
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and arrogant ruling classes, we do that that that perceives

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01:57:00,279 --> 01:57:03,680
any loss of control on their part as like a

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major emergency for everybody, for the whole world, that they

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01:57:06,760 --> 01:57:09,319
could you know, really blow things up rather than go

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out peacefully. But you know, as far as yeah, far

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as how it ends, I mean.

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Speaker 6: Well that was a plant Russia numbers, I mean generationally,

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and you see the way I mean, you have to think.

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Speaker 3: Of it like this. And I'm coming from like a

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01:57:26,600 --> 01:57:29,840
perspective of somebody who like, they threw the entire kitchen

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sink at me when I was on Tucker last year.

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They threw everything they had, I mean, just the Republican

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or rather the Congressional Jewish Caucus, the White House, the

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major papers. I mean just they.

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Speaker 6: Threw the White House came after you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they issued they issued an official statement condemning

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me by name, and like you know, it did absolutely nothing.

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It did nothing to me, you know, and I'm just

1918
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an ordinary person. So when you look now at somebody

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01:57:56,720 --> 01:58:01,039
like Tucker, you know, there's a reason the terrified of Tucker,

1920
01:58:01,039 --> 01:58:03,840
and they should be, because he sees what's going on.

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He knows what's going on. You know, he's very much

1922
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like a like a gen X Christian American who is

1923
01:58:11,239 --> 01:58:14,920
uncomfortable with you know, as he said in that Fuentes interview,

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01:58:15,039 --> 01:58:18,720
like many times, you know, with any kind of ascribing

1925
01:58:18,760 --> 01:58:20,880
of group guilt to people, all those things. He's very

1926
01:58:20,920 --> 01:58:23,720
averse to all of that. But in terms of these

1927
01:58:23,760 --> 01:58:26,479
people were talking about the specific people are who are

1928
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pulling the levers on these things, he knows who they are,

1929
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and he and they know that he knows who they are.

1930
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And he's a conduit, you know to just normy conservatives

1931
01:58:36,359 --> 01:58:38,920
who've never been able to hear this stuff before. And

1932
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if they have heard it, you know, it triggered one

1933
01:58:41,399 --> 01:58:44,960
of those deeply embedded emotional sort of you know trauma

1934
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triggers they got watching shitters lit in sixth grade at school,

1935
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you know, and so Tucker is similar to the way

1936
01:58:51,399 --> 01:58:53,840
that like, by the time you got up to twenty sixteen,

1937
01:58:54,600 --> 01:58:58,159
like most Republican voters were like, man, we are never

1938
01:58:58,199 --> 01:59:00,640
going to get this albatross of the era war and

1939
01:59:00,680 --> 01:59:03,880
everything off our fucking back or around from our neck.

1940
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And but we can't like just denounce it or whatever,

1941
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because then we're saying, oh, yeah, Nancy Pelosi was right

1942
01:59:09,359 --> 01:59:11,399
all along and blah blah blah, we can't do that.

1943
01:59:11,880 --> 01:59:14,960
But Trump came in and gave them permission to be like, no,

1944
01:59:15,119 --> 01:59:18,119
that was all bullshit. And Tucker is doing that for

1945
01:59:18,159 --> 01:59:21,199
a normy audience right now, and he understands, like, you know,

1946
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one of the things that he understands very well is

1947
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that all of us have a place in the ladder,

1948
01:59:26,680 --> 01:59:28,640
you know, and that normany start at the bottom. You

1949
01:59:28,720 --> 01:59:30,840
have to give them a low rung to grab onto,

1950
01:59:31,359 --> 01:59:32,960
and then you have to give them a second rung

1951
01:59:33,000 --> 01:59:34,880
to grab onto. There's a lot of people out there,

1952
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you know, a lot of the annon's on Twitter and

1953
01:59:37,560 --> 01:59:40,720
other places who they just they want anybody with any

1954
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kind of a public profile to prove their bona fides

1955
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by going out there and just you know, screaming the

1956
01:59:47,119 --> 01:59:49,960
most obsig, it's going to get them banned, like just

1957
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to show that they're really down for the cause or whatever.

1958
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I always tell these people, you don't understand how propaganda works,

1959
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you know. Somebody like Tucker understands that his job is

1960
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to point people to point Pete. His job is to

1961
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take people who are bored with Matt Walsh and send

1962
02:00:05,239 --> 02:00:07,640
him to me. My job is to take people who

1963
02:00:07,720 --> 02:00:10,319
get bored with me and send them to Pete. You know.

1964
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And when I hear I've told Pete this before, when

1965
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I hear people like or see people online being like,

1966
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you know, I used to listen to Darryl, but then

1967
02:00:18,760 --> 02:00:21,279
I realized he's just a cuck faggot who won't say

1968
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any of the real shit. So now I only listen

1969
02:00:23,199 --> 02:00:27,880
to Thomas. I'm like, yeah, another, and like, I don't

1970
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take that personally at all, because I'm comfortable with my place,

1971
02:00:30,600 --> 02:00:33,319
you know, on the ladder, and we need all of

1972
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those pieces. I was talking to Oran McIntyre about this

1973
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the other day. He came out and he said something

1974
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that was more strident than you're used to hearing from

1975
02:00:40,720 --> 02:00:43,680
oron from Oran about the people we're talking about. And

1976
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I didn't go in and you know, like concern troll

1977
02:00:46,520 --> 02:00:48,159
him or anything. But I got into his DMS and

1978
02:00:48,800 --> 02:00:51,199
because you know, we're pretty good buddies by this point,

1979
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and I was like, dude, just be careful. We need

1980
02:00:54,239 --> 02:00:58,159
you exactly where you are, Like you know, we don't

1981
02:00:58,239 --> 02:01:00,439
need you like coming over even further to our So

1982
02:01:00,640 --> 02:01:03,199
like all that is great, like do that internally, but

1983
02:01:03,319 --> 02:01:05,960
in terms of the propaganda process, we need you exactly

1984
02:01:05,960 --> 02:01:08,079
where you are. You know, you play a very important

1985
02:01:08,159 --> 02:01:11,000
role in this whole thing. So and he understands that,

1986
02:01:11,159 --> 02:01:15,239
and uh, you know, just all of us always have

1987
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to keep that in mind. You know, like this is

1988
02:01:17,279 --> 02:01:20,479
a process and you have to like normal people like look,

1989
02:01:20,520 --> 02:01:24,720
I I Americans are basically decent people. You know, like

1990
02:01:24,800 --> 02:01:27,560
foreigners who come over here, they all say the same thing,

1991
02:01:27,840 --> 02:01:29,880
like you know, you just they're they're always surprised by

1992
02:01:29,960 --> 02:01:32,319
just sort of how open Americans are. They'll just start

1993
02:01:32,359 --> 02:01:34,920
talking to you about their family and their whatever, like

1994
02:01:35,000 --> 02:01:38,199
the day you meet them kind of thing, and uh,

1995
02:01:38,880 --> 02:01:40,720
you know, they're kind. They're the kind of people who

1996
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you know, they don't they're not comfortable feeling like they're

1997
02:01:45,159 --> 02:01:48,640
doing something that like really goes that that that goes

1998
02:01:48,720 --> 02:01:51,920
against like a deeply held principle that they have. You know,

1999
02:01:51,960 --> 02:01:53,880
they don't want to be an immoral person. They don't

2000
02:01:53,920 --> 02:01:56,279
want to feel like they're being unjust to anybody or

2001
02:01:56,279 --> 02:01:59,239
any group. And none of this, you know, none of

2002
02:01:59,239 --> 02:02:02,159
the things that we're talking about are unjust to anybody

2003
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or any group.

2004
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Speaker 7: You know.

2005
02:02:03,760 --> 02:02:08,640
Speaker 3: It's just about you know, offering them, presenting these ideas

2006
02:02:08,640 --> 02:02:12,359
to them in a way that works around those triggers

2007
02:02:12,439 --> 02:02:14,439
you know that got embedded in them in fourth grade.

2008
02:02:15,520 --> 02:02:17,800
Speaker 1: Hey, I want to bring something up to you real quick, Arrol,

2009
02:02:17,800 --> 02:02:19,720
because you mentioned Tucker and I've been thinking about this

2010
02:02:19,800 --> 02:02:23,479
a lot lately, especially since he had Fuentes on. Okay,

2011
02:02:23,760 --> 02:02:27,319
we've got several instances over the last century of these

2012
02:02:27,359 --> 02:02:31,960
witch hunts of you know, the Jewish lobby, the Jewish media.

2013
02:02:32,960 --> 02:02:35,359
I was gonna say Zionists, but some of these things

2014
02:02:35,399 --> 02:02:37,479
go back before Israel was a state, so we can't

2015
02:02:37,479 --> 02:02:40,680
really call it Zionist. Where they go after Charles Lindberg

2016
02:02:40,760 --> 02:02:43,680
and they completely like disappear him, they totally take him

2017
02:02:43,720 --> 02:02:46,359
down and he's no longer a factor. They go after

2018
02:02:46,399 --> 02:02:49,640
Sam Francis, they go after Pat Buchanan, and the neo

2019
02:02:49,720 --> 02:02:52,560
cons went ham on pap Buchanan, And if you go

2020
02:02:52,640 --> 02:02:55,680
back and read their you know, editorials that they wrote

2021
02:02:55,680 --> 02:02:58,720
for the National Review, et cetera, about Pat Buchanan, they

2022
02:02:58,720 --> 02:03:01,840
were saying the same things then as they're saying about

2023
02:03:01,880 --> 02:03:03,039
you know, anti Zionists.

2024
02:03:03,039 --> 02:03:04,960
Speaker 2: Now it's like this, It's like they have a playbook.

2025
02:03:05,000 --> 02:03:07,319
Speaker 1: And I mean, I've become convinced that they actually do

2026
02:03:07,399 --> 02:03:10,000
have a real, actual playbook that they all refer to,

2027
02:03:10,039 --> 02:03:12,319
because they all say the same things even twenty five

2028
02:03:12,399 --> 02:03:15,279
years later. Now they're trying to do that to Tucker.

2029
02:03:15,760 --> 02:03:18,399
And I don't really understand how Tucker's network works, but

2030
02:03:18,479 --> 02:03:21,239
as far as I know, it's completely independent.

2031
02:03:21,840 --> 02:03:23,520
Speaker 2: So they're going after him.

2032
02:03:23,520 --> 02:03:25,039
Speaker 1: They're trying to bring him down in the same way

2033
02:03:25,039 --> 02:03:27,880
they brought these they brought these other guys down. I

2034
02:03:27,880 --> 02:03:29,560
don't see how it can work. I don't see how

2035
02:03:29,560 --> 02:03:31,640
they can do it. He's not they're not cutting off

2036
02:03:31,640 --> 02:03:34,279
his funding. They're not kicking him out of the editorial

2037
02:03:34,319 --> 02:03:37,560
board of a national magazine. They can't fire him from

2038
02:03:37,600 --> 02:03:39,800
Fox News. They already did that. And look at him now,

2039
02:03:40,239 --> 02:03:43,159
I mean even on AXI he's huge, but he's on YouTube,

2040
02:03:43,199 --> 02:03:46,000
he's all over the internet, and even if they could

2041
02:03:46,000 --> 02:03:48,439
somehow get him off those platforms, which it looks like

2042
02:03:48,439 --> 02:03:50,920
they're not going to, he would still have the Tucker

2043
02:03:50,920 --> 02:03:51,720
Carlson Network.

2044
02:03:52,239 --> 02:03:54,560
Speaker 2: So I think it's not gonna work this time.

2045
02:03:54,600 --> 02:03:59,000
Speaker 8: I mean, I've be that their only way of getting

2046
02:03:59,079 --> 02:04:02,119
rid of him, and they do this to a lot

2047
02:04:02,159 --> 02:04:04,720
of our guys, And it's something I counsel against all

2048
02:04:04,760 --> 02:04:08,079
the time, like any time I can. I is they

2049
02:04:08,119 --> 02:04:10,479
know that the only way they can deal with him

2050
02:04:11,159 --> 02:04:14,840
is to provoke him into starting to say things that

2051
02:04:14,880 --> 02:04:18,079
are gonna make your sort of like nor me who's

2052
02:04:18,159 --> 02:04:20,399
just dipping their toe in sort of like pull back

2053
02:04:20,439 --> 02:04:22,199
and be like, oh, yeah, I don't know about this,

2054
02:04:22,319 --> 02:04:24,159
Like they know that that the whole point.

2055
02:04:24,279 --> 02:04:26,399
Speaker 3: He said this in a few of his episodes. You

2056
02:04:26,439 --> 02:04:28,239
might have said it in his interview with me recently,

2057
02:04:29,479 --> 02:04:31,680
that their goal is to make you hate them and

2058
02:04:31,720 --> 02:04:35,319
then to act hateful, hatefully toward them, and to do

2059
02:04:35,399 --> 02:04:37,439
it in public in ways that people see that'll make

2060
02:04:37,479 --> 02:04:39,680
them withdraw from you. That's the goal, and you can't

2061
02:04:39,680 --> 02:04:41,439
give into that. You know, you have to be aware

2062
02:04:41,479 --> 02:04:42,720
that that's the game they're playing.

2063
02:04:44,279 --> 02:04:46,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I'll say I'll say this, this is something

2064
02:04:46,880 --> 02:04:51,840
I think that's really important. If you're if you're consumed

2065
02:04:51,840 --> 02:04:56,199
by hate, you can't build anything. You're stuck in one place.

2066
02:04:56,680 --> 02:05:01,000
You can't move forward. That's why there's so many people,

2067
02:05:01,039 --> 02:05:04,600
so many of these ANNs are stuck on Twitter and

2068
02:05:04,680 --> 02:05:07,600
won't get off Twitter and build, build what comes next

2069
02:05:08,000 --> 02:05:11,359
because they're consumed by hate. Now, you have an adversary,

2070
02:05:11,600 --> 02:05:16,840
and you deal understand who your adversary is and structure

2071
02:05:16,840 --> 02:05:19,760
your life so that that adversary you can mitigate as

2072
02:05:19,840 --> 02:05:23,520
much of the negative consequences of that adversary as you can.

2073
02:05:24,239 --> 02:05:27,279
And that's it. You can't get consumed by hate. You

2074
02:05:27,359 --> 02:05:31,199
will end up saying stupid shit and then you know, yeah,

2075
02:05:31,239 --> 02:05:35,039
I've been anonymous on the internet. It's no fun. It's

2076
02:05:35,079 --> 02:05:39,279
no fun. You're just yeah, I mean, I may have.

2077
02:05:39,239 --> 02:05:41,960
Speaker 3: Told you about this, Pete, but you know, I know.

2078
02:05:42,079 --> 02:05:47,000
Gu I'm friends with a guy who he's currently getting

2079
02:05:47,239 --> 02:05:53,159
protested processed out of the Navy. He was a commander five,

2080
02:05:55,399 --> 02:05:58,119
graduated second in his class at the academy. He's a

2081
02:05:58,199 --> 02:06:04,439
Navy doctor. He was a candidate for the astronaut program

2082
02:06:04,680 --> 02:06:08,199
and came up second among the candidates only the Johnny Kim,

2083
02:06:08,239 --> 02:06:10,680
which is a silver Star winning Navy seal that used

2084
02:06:10,680 --> 02:06:12,920
to work for Jocko and Ramadi who now is a

2085
02:06:12,960 --> 02:06:17,039
Harvard educated doctor, and he's just a freaking super candidate, right,

2086
02:06:17,319 --> 02:06:19,479
this guy came in second to him. This buddy of

2087
02:06:19,479 --> 02:06:22,039
mine was on track to be an admiral. I mean,

2088
02:06:22,079 --> 02:06:24,119
he was gonna be one of our guys like up

2089
02:06:24,159 --> 02:06:27,439
at the flag level in the Navy. And he started

2090
02:06:27,520 --> 02:06:32,039
listening to you know, TRS podcast. He starts go, it

2091
02:06:32,119 --> 02:06:35,399
is a super smart guy obviously, starts listening to a

2092
02:06:35,439 --> 02:06:38,560
lot of these just you know, sort of more uncontrolled

2093
02:06:39,119 --> 02:06:41,640
kinds of content that we have out there on our side,

2094
02:06:42,279 --> 02:06:44,319
and he just did the he did the thing that

2095
02:06:44,359 --> 02:06:46,279
we have seen happen to so many people where you

2096
02:06:46,359 --> 02:06:49,239
like literally couldn't bring him into mixed company anymore, because

2097
02:06:49,279 --> 02:06:52,079
ten minutes into any conversation with your grandmother, he's going

2098
02:06:52,159 --> 02:06:54,720
to start talking about the Jews or something. And it

2099
02:06:54,800 --> 02:06:56,560
got to the and it got to that point where

2100
02:06:56,600 --> 02:06:58,720
he couldn't keep his fucking mouth shut in front of

2101
02:06:58,720 --> 02:07:01,199
his boss, in front of an admiral. And now he's

2102
02:07:01,199 --> 02:07:04,760
getting processed out of the Navy, and you know he's forgetting,

2103
02:07:04,760 --> 02:07:06,560
I mean forget about like just having a guy in

2104
02:07:06,600 --> 02:07:08,960
his position who understands where we're coming from. It's a

2105
02:07:08,960 --> 02:07:11,119
guy with a wife and kid, and now you know

2106
02:07:11,239 --> 02:07:14,239
he's going to be in a in a very just difficult,

2107
02:07:14,279 --> 02:07:16,960
difficult situation, you know, coming out of the Navy on

2108
02:07:17,000 --> 02:07:20,520
a on like other than honorable kind of circumstances, and

2109
02:07:20,600 --> 02:07:22,600
so like, those are the kind of things we really

2110
02:07:22,640 --> 02:07:24,840
have to avoid just on a personal level, but also

2111
02:07:25,000 --> 02:07:27,199
just because it takes you out of the game when

2112
02:07:27,199 --> 02:07:31,199
you do that, you know, and and it just makes

2113
02:07:31,239 --> 02:07:34,600
you so predictable and so reactive, so easily provoked by

2114
02:07:34,640 --> 02:07:37,159
the enemy. You know, they know somebody who is full

2115
02:07:37,159 --> 02:07:39,680
of anger, full of rage and hate. They know exactly

2116
02:07:39,760 --> 02:07:42,039
what to say to get you to freak out, just

2117
02:07:42,079 --> 02:07:43,960
the same way that you know. I made this point

2118
02:07:44,000 --> 02:07:48,079
to h to Scott the other day on our Provoked podcast,

2119
02:07:48,279 --> 02:07:50,920
Scott Horton. When I was trying to I was just

2120
02:07:51,000 --> 02:07:54,319
mounting a defense of of the groupers to a degree

2121
02:07:55,840 --> 02:07:58,000
where you know, I was trying to explain to him

2122
02:07:58,039 --> 02:08:02,399
that like for years, these guys have been in an

2123
02:08:02,439 --> 02:08:07,439
extremely asymmetric war right where the people that they're combating

2124
02:08:08,319 --> 02:08:11,640
can destroy their lives. They out them, they get them fired,

2125
02:08:11,680 --> 02:08:14,960
from their job. They put them on massive websites like

2126
02:08:15,079 --> 02:08:18,039
SPLC and ADL, the hate Watch. You know, that just

2127
02:08:18,159 --> 02:08:20,560
is there permanently, and this is the first they make sure.

2128
02:08:20,560 --> 02:08:22,479
It's the first thing that comes up if you google

2129
02:08:22,520 --> 02:08:25,760
their name when they're trying to rent a house or

2130
02:08:25,800 --> 02:08:28,039
get a job or something like that. These are all

2131
02:08:28,079 --> 02:08:30,600
the tools. They're canceling, their bank accounts, their credit cards.

2132
02:08:30,640 --> 02:08:32,920
These are the tools that their enemies had to use

2133
02:08:32,960 --> 02:08:36,760
against them. And what did they have at their disposal?

2134
02:08:36,840 --> 02:08:39,640
What weapons did they have? Well, they know that they

2135
02:08:39,680 --> 02:08:42,079
can say a few things. If you make a comment

2136
02:08:42,159 --> 02:08:44,479
to you that is going to trigger you and pull

2137
02:08:44,560 --> 02:08:46,479
you down to their level and make you look like

2138
02:08:46,520 --> 02:08:49,039
an asshole. And so that's what they do. You know,

2139
02:08:49,159 --> 02:08:52,119
you can destroy them by getting them fired from their

2140
02:08:52,199 --> 02:08:55,159
job and putting them on the hate watch website. They

2141
02:08:55,159 --> 02:08:58,079
can call you a racial slur, a jew, whatever, and

2142
02:08:58,239 --> 02:09:01,119
watch you freak out and knack like a more on online.

2143
02:09:01,560 --> 02:09:03,680
And that's the weapon that they had to fight back with,

2144
02:09:03,800 --> 02:09:05,920
you know, And you could you could say whatever you

2145
02:09:05,960 --> 02:09:09,159
want about that, but that's what was going on. And so, uh,

2146
02:09:09,199 --> 02:09:11,199
you know, I totally understand where a lot of that

2147
02:09:11,239 --> 02:09:13,760
comes from, but at a time now where we're really like,

2148
02:09:13,920 --> 02:09:15,520
we've got a lot of momentum behind us, and I

2149
02:09:15,560 --> 02:09:17,720
don't want to overplay that too much. We've still got

2150
02:09:17,760 --> 02:09:21,039
a long, long hill to climb, a lot of obstacles

2151
02:09:21,039 --> 02:09:24,079
to overcome. Uh, but you know, we're we're at a

2152
02:09:24,159 --> 02:09:27,800
place now where they can no longer they can no

2153
02:09:27,880 --> 02:09:31,000
longer fight us on those asymmetric terms so much. You know,

2154
02:09:31,079 --> 02:09:33,119
they have to actually meet us in the field. And

2155
02:09:33,159 --> 02:09:35,399
you see how that's going for him. It's not going well.

2156
02:09:35,840 --> 02:09:38,920
And so you know, being in a in a more

2157
02:09:39,279 --> 02:09:42,520
in more even combat like that, it requires different tactics,

2158
02:09:42,840 --> 02:09:46,000
you know, and and and people just have to keep

2159
02:09:46,039 --> 02:09:46,600
that in mind.

2160
02:09:48,039 --> 02:09:50,319
Speaker 7: All right, I got to cut out. I want to

2161
02:09:50,319 --> 02:09:54,399
thank Darryl for joining us. Awesome, thank you, and I'll

2162
02:09:54,439 --> 02:09:57,399
be in touch soon. And I got to go record.

2163
02:09:57,960 --> 02:10:00,520
I got to go record episode eighty eight, two hundred

2164
02:10:00,560 --> 02:10:01,119
years together.

2165
02:10:01,720 --> 02:10:02,359
Speaker 6: Amazing.

2166
02:10:03,439 --> 02:10:05,439
Speaker 7: Thank you, Darryl. Appreciate you.

2167
02:10:06,000 --> 02:10:07,319
Speaker 6: Take care, guys, make it easy.

2168
02:10:07,399 --> 02:10:09,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that might be so.

2169
02:10:09,239 --> 02:10:10,560
Speaker 6: I can go on for another forty five.

2170
02:10:11,199 --> 02:10:12,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I might have to cut it off

2171
02:10:12,840 --> 02:10:14,600
to Daryl, Are you good on time?

2172
02:10:16,239 --> 02:10:18,479
Speaker 3: No, not really, I've actually got to get going here soon,

2173
02:10:18,600 --> 02:10:20,279
So I'm gonna do a few more minutes if there's

2174
02:10:20,279 --> 02:10:21,840
something you want to talk about, but I gotta get going.

2175
02:10:22,319 --> 02:10:26,960
Speaker 6: There is one thing. I think, it's about American identity

2176
02:10:27,039 --> 02:10:32,159
going forward, because the biggest problem that we have both rhetorically,

2177
02:10:32,520 --> 02:10:35,439
you can see it in guys like Vance, guys like Tucker,

2178
02:10:36,720 --> 02:10:41,760
is when they are interacting with comments like the kind

2179
02:10:41,800 --> 02:10:47,720
that Mark Livin and Ben Shapiro are nice enough to

2180
02:10:47,720 --> 02:10:53,840
give us all the time about advocating about Jews, advocating

2181
02:10:53,880 --> 02:10:58,239
for Jews, why it's necessary, and why advocating for Israel

2182
02:10:59,239 --> 02:11:03,039
is really the only logical, you know, position for someone

2183
02:11:03,319 --> 02:11:08,039
of their ethno religious persuasion. But when guys like Tucker

2184
02:11:08,079 --> 02:11:12,680
will point out like why it's wrong and why x

2185
02:11:12,800 --> 02:11:16,760
y Z policy that the administration is doing is wrong,

2186
02:11:18,079 --> 02:11:22,920
and why America you know, why x y Z is

2187
02:11:23,000 --> 02:11:26,119
bad and you know, bad for America, that they can't

2188
02:11:26,479 --> 02:11:29,319
when they say like, oh, well, these things are we

2189
02:11:29,399 --> 02:11:33,199
need to do these things for Americans, they seem to

2190
02:11:33,239 --> 02:11:37,359
struggle with the ability of pointing out who that is right.

2191
02:11:37,399 --> 02:11:40,000
So if I go to like China and I ask

2192
02:11:40,079 --> 02:11:44,000
a Chinese man, what is an American? What does he

2193
02:11:44,039 --> 02:11:47,039
look like? The Chinese man will tell me same thing.

2194
02:11:47,079 --> 02:11:49,039
If I go to India, i go to Africa, they'll

2195
02:11:49,319 --> 02:11:52,520
tell me what an African or the African will tell

2196
02:11:52,560 --> 02:11:56,279
me what an American is. And no one in our

2197
02:11:56,319 --> 02:12:01,800
political apparatus, you know, on our side, is able to

2198
02:12:02,119 --> 02:12:05,159
tell me what an American is. So when they say

2199
02:12:05,239 --> 02:12:07,319
they want to do all of these things for the

2200
02:12:07,319 --> 02:12:11,520
benefit of Americans, they seem to be enable to attach

2201
02:12:11,640 --> 02:12:17,079
that to even an idea of a people group because

2202
02:12:17,079 --> 02:12:19,239
you say, like, well, who is an American? Well, everyone's

2203
02:12:19,279 --> 02:12:22,439
an American. And I think this is probably one of

2204
02:12:22,439 --> 02:12:27,039
the biggest shackles holding back both the direction of the

2205
02:12:27,079 --> 02:12:30,199
directing of policy but also the directing of the rhetorical

2206
02:12:30,239 --> 02:12:32,840
fight we're in. So I'd love to hear your take

2207
02:12:32,920 --> 02:12:35,840
on what that would look like. Yeah, what is an

2208
02:12:35,840 --> 02:12:36,840
American identity?

2209
02:12:37,399 --> 02:12:40,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an incredible I mean, I'll say, first of all,

2210
02:12:40,279 --> 02:12:42,039
I think we're still kind of in the process of

2211
02:12:42,079 --> 02:12:47,119
that ethnogenesis, so like you, but it's it's really like

2212
02:12:47,159 --> 02:12:49,239
the question of questions for us at this point, and

2213
02:12:49,279 --> 02:12:51,920
people who are from even just a generation a little

2214
02:12:51,960 --> 02:12:55,000
bit behind us, I think have a lot more difficulty

2215
02:12:56,079 --> 02:12:58,880
with it than we do. It certainly than people who

2216
02:12:58,920 --> 02:13:01,239
are younger than us, do you know. I mean, if

2217
02:13:01,279 --> 02:13:03,960
you think about it, like for somebody like Tucker, I mean,

2218
02:13:04,000 --> 02:13:07,920
it's partly moral ethical, but it's also just partly pragmatic.

2219
02:13:07,960 --> 02:13:10,560
And I understand this part of it like very well

2220
02:13:11,000 --> 02:13:13,000
that he looks at the situation and says, look, man,

2221
02:13:13,000 --> 02:13:16,920
if we start talking just about race, like if you

2222
02:13:16,960 --> 02:13:20,560
look at the like the the the the trajectory of demographics,

2223
02:13:20,600 --> 02:13:23,159
if we go into that kind of a you know,

2224
02:13:23,199 --> 02:13:25,840
just say again like fortress mentality, where we just withdraw

2225
02:13:25,960 --> 02:13:30,640
into like racial identity purely, like purely, that we're gonna

2226
02:13:30,680 --> 02:13:33,800
end up in a country that, uh, you know where

2227
02:13:33,840 --> 02:13:38,439
where the majority populations are allied against us, and that

2228
02:13:38,520 --> 02:13:42,920
we can't really provide any kind of leadership for now.

2229
02:13:44,359 --> 02:13:47,079
And and I'm sympathetic to that, to that, to that

2230
02:13:47,319 --> 02:13:49,359
idea for sure, because it is I mean, we do

2231
02:13:49,439 --> 02:13:51,960
have to deal with the world as we find it

2232
02:13:52,039 --> 02:13:55,279
right now, and we also have to you know, I mean,

2233
02:13:55,319 --> 02:13:57,760
look like I've I've brought this up before, I think

2234
02:13:57,800 --> 02:13:59,960
in a in an article for I don't remember who,

2235
02:14:00,119 --> 02:14:04,960
but you know, Thomas talked about how this ideal of

2236
02:14:05,039 --> 02:14:08,680
like the white American Obviously, you go back to the

2237
02:14:08,800 --> 02:14:11,680
very beginning, and people knew that African slaves had darker

2238
02:14:11,680 --> 02:14:13,359
skin than them, and they were black, and they were

2239
02:14:13,359 --> 02:14:15,520
white like. People understood that on some level, but in

2240
02:14:15,640 --> 02:14:19,000
terms of like the operative elements of their identity outside

2241
02:14:19,039 --> 02:14:21,720
the South, like people were Catholic or Protestant, they were

2242
02:14:21,760 --> 02:14:25,680
Irish or Italian or Jewish or Anglo, and the idea

2243
02:14:25,680 --> 02:14:29,439
of you know, just us being white people was again

2244
02:14:29,479 --> 02:14:31,560
they were aware of it, but it wasn't it wasn't

2245
02:14:31,560 --> 02:14:33,560
the operative part of their identity because it would have

2246
02:14:33,600 --> 02:14:37,560
been like going to Norway back in nineteen fifty and

2247
02:14:37,840 --> 02:14:40,520
making a big you know, I'm a Norwegian kind of thing.

2248
02:14:40,560 --> 02:14:42,640
It was just everybody was Norwegian. There's no reason to

2249
02:14:42,680 --> 02:14:44,920
even have it enter into your consciousness. For the most part,

2250
02:14:45,239 --> 02:14:48,119
the things that the differentiations that actually made a difference

2251
02:14:48,159 --> 02:14:51,279
to them were things that applied in their local community,

2252
02:14:51,279 --> 02:14:55,800
you know, Irish, Catholic, Italian, Catholic, Jewish, whatever. And you know,

2253
02:14:55,800 --> 02:14:58,199
it was only with the great migration of the blacks

2254
02:14:58,199 --> 02:14:59,800
out of the South, but you had all of these

2255
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:02,960
dipate white groups who were confronted with this, with this

2256
02:15:03,079 --> 02:15:06,960
alien force that was really wreaking havoc on their neighborhoods

2257
02:15:07,000 --> 02:15:11,399
and in their lives, their community lives. And then after

2258
02:15:11,399 --> 02:15:14,000
they got drove out, driven out into the suburbs where

2259
02:15:14,119 --> 02:15:17,039
you're an Italian guy who has an Irish neighbor and

2260
02:15:17,119 --> 02:15:21,479
a Jewish neighbor, and you know, there's the old Italian

2261
02:15:21,520 --> 02:15:24,279
Catholic church is forty five minutes across town, and only

2262
02:15:24,359 --> 02:15:26,479
old ladies who still live in the neighborhood go there,

2263
02:15:26,520 --> 02:15:29,199
and you don't go there anymore. Like that, you had

2264
02:15:29,199 --> 02:15:31,439
that sort of like all of those people begin to

2265
02:15:31,520 --> 02:15:34,920
melt into a white population. But that's something that's like

2266
02:15:35,039 --> 02:15:37,800
pretty recent, you know, in terms of having that as

2267
02:15:37,840 --> 02:15:39,880
an operative part of any identity. And we have, like

2268
02:15:39,920 --> 02:15:43,640
anybody above the age of about forty went through at

2269
02:15:43,720 --> 02:15:47,520
least twelve years of indoctrination in school, an entire lifetime

2270
02:15:47,520 --> 02:15:51,000
of indoctrination by the media telling them that anytime that

2271
02:15:51,199 --> 02:15:54,680
part of their identity starts to assert itself, they need

2272
02:15:54,680 --> 02:15:56,760
to put themselves in check because not only is it

2273
02:15:56,800 --> 02:15:59,359
immoral danger, it's going to be personally dangerous for you

2274
02:15:59,399 --> 02:16:01,720
if that gets if that gets to be too much

2275
02:16:01,760 --> 02:16:04,439
of what you're thinking about. And so you know, it's

2276
02:16:04,520 --> 02:16:07,560
very hard for people a little older than us to

2277
02:16:07,640 --> 02:16:11,760
really to overcome that and figure out a way too,

2278
02:16:12,840 --> 02:16:16,239
you know, preserve that element of racial identity which is

2279
02:16:16,279 --> 02:16:18,439
going to become. It's just it's going to be important

2280
02:16:18,560 --> 02:16:21,159
going forward, and you know, in the world and in

2281
02:16:21,199 --> 02:16:26,399
the United States, but also being willing to branch out

2282
02:16:26,560 --> 02:16:29,680
and have relationships, have a sort of you know, maybe

2283
02:16:29,720 --> 02:16:31,479
even like a you could say, like a like a

2284
02:16:32,040 --> 02:16:34,920
not geographically demarketed in the same way, but the way

2285
02:16:35,000 --> 02:16:37,879
Switzerland has like an ethnic federation in a way you know,

2286
02:16:37,920 --> 02:16:41,760
where you have these different groups, different people, and you know,

2287
02:16:41,799 --> 02:16:46,159
the any in the in the people who are you know,

2288
02:16:46,440 --> 02:16:50,760
who are willing and and and desiring to be part

2289
02:16:50,760 --> 02:16:55,399
of the project you know of America. We can work

2290
02:16:55,440 --> 02:16:57,520
with them, We can provide leadership to them, We can

2291
02:16:57,559 --> 02:16:59,879
work with their leaders and give them their respect that

2292
02:17:00,239 --> 02:17:02,440
do you know, as people who are here and who

2293
02:17:02,479 --> 02:17:03,920
want to be a part of the project and who

2294
02:17:03,920 --> 02:17:07,639
contribute to it, give them a respect without necessarily having

2295
02:17:07,680 --> 02:17:11,799
to just melt together into like some new hemispheric race

2296
02:17:11,920 --> 02:17:13,520
or something, which I just don't think is going to

2297
02:17:13,600 --> 02:17:17,879
happen regardless. I mean, and you know, so I mean

2298
02:17:17,920 --> 02:17:20,440
if you think about it, like that period after the

2299
02:17:20,479 --> 02:17:25,680
Second World War up to about maybe the JFK assassination

2300
02:17:25,879 --> 02:17:28,840
or so, like that was probably the closest we came

2301
02:17:29,840 --> 02:17:32,920
to having like a real American ethnogenesis on like a

2302
02:17:33,040 --> 02:17:35,680
national level where you had like a people who really

2303
02:17:35,719 --> 02:17:39,639
felt like, you know, there was something just meaningfully American

2304
02:17:39,760 --> 02:17:42,479
things that they were, you know, that that everybody was

2305
02:17:42,559 --> 02:17:44,399
proud of, even if it was based on a lot

2306
02:17:44,399 --> 02:17:46,479
of propaganda in the World wars and things like that,

2307
02:17:46,559 --> 02:17:49,120
but that that really brought them together and united them

2308
02:17:49,120 --> 02:17:51,680
as a people. You know, I think about how you know,

2309
02:17:51,959 --> 02:17:55,559
the city of the town of Vicksburgh never celebrated the

2310
02:17:55,559 --> 02:17:58,079
fourth of July after it was conquered during the Civil

2311
02:17:58,120 --> 02:18:01,879
War until July forth nineteen forty four, after the D

2312
02:18:02,000 --> 02:18:05,000
Day landing, and it was just you know, again propaganda

2313
02:18:05,079 --> 02:18:09,280
or not like we had had by nineteen forty four,

2314
02:18:09,399 --> 02:18:12,840
twenty years or really like thirty years because immigration kind

2315
02:18:12,840 --> 02:18:15,319
of you know, really came to a trickle when the

2316
02:18:15,319 --> 02:18:17,840
First World War broke out. It wasn't just in nineteen

2317
02:18:17,879 --> 02:18:20,399
twenty four, and so they had thirty years at that point,

2318
02:18:20,399 --> 02:18:22,920
the entire generation had been able to grow up into

2319
02:18:23,040 --> 02:18:26,600
working age adults who were all born in America. We

2320
02:18:26,639 --> 02:18:29,000
hadn't didn't have like a new generation. Is the first

2321
02:18:29,040 --> 02:18:31,559
time it's really happened in American history. You know, you

2322
02:18:31,639 --> 02:18:35,159
have seventeen seventy six and basically within a generation you've

2323
02:18:35,159 --> 02:18:38,399
got Germans and Irish flooding. In a generation later it's

2324
02:18:38,440 --> 02:18:41,200
Italians and Jews and others from Eastern and southern Europe.

2325
02:18:41,639 --> 02:18:46,479
But then after that petered out with the First World War,

2326
02:18:48,280 --> 02:18:51,159
that kind of the overseas immigration kind of came to

2327
02:18:51,200 --> 02:18:52,680
an end, and by the time you get up to

2328
02:18:52,719 --> 02:18:54,799
the end of the Second World War really been almost

2329
02:18:54,799 --> 02:18:57,760
thirty years. But of course by that point is you know,

2330
02:18:57,799 --> 02:19:01,760
we replaced that, We replaced that with the great migration

2331
02:19:01,799 --> 02:19:03,719
of blacks out of the South, and so that really

2332
02:19:03,760 --> 02:19:07,360
did like contribute to an ethnogenesis among American whites during

2333
02:19:07,360 --> 02:19:11,559
that period. And you know, you wonder what might have

2334
02:19:11,680 --> 02:19:15,000
happened if, you know, if we hadn't passed heart Seller

2335
02:19:15,000 --> 02:19:17,920
in nineteen sixty five and we had figured out a

2336
02:19:17,959 --> 02:19:21,920
way to integrate, you know, blacks into the country in

2337
02:19:21,959 --> 02:19:24,280
a way that you know, didn't place them in such

2338
02:19:24,520 --> 02:19:27,239
a hostile relationship to it. For the most part, and like,

2339
02:19:27,840 --> 02:19:29,840
you know, you wonder, but again, like this is the

2340
02:19:29,840 --> 02:19:32,760
world that that we got to live with now, and

2341
02:19:32,799 --> 02:19:35,479
it's much much more difficult, you know, Like Anglos had

2342
02:19:35,479 --> 02:19:40,000
to renegotiate American identity with Germans and Irish, not easy

2343
02:19:40,120 --> 02:19:41,840
given the time, you know, I mean, they were very

2344
02:19:41,840 --> 02:19:45,520
different and often hostile peoples. You had to do it

2345
02:19:45,520 --> 02:19:48,760
again with the Italians and Jews and others in the

2346
02:19:48,799 --> 02:19:52,239
late nineteenth early twentieth century. But still, you know, this

2347
02:19:52,399 --> 02:19:56,319
was something that, compared to what we're facing now, was

2348
02:19:57,120 --> 02:20:01,000
pretty doable. Now when we're dealing with people who are

2349
02:20:01,600 --> 02:20:05,159
you know, not just a different denomination of Christianity or

2350
02:20:05,200 --> 02:20:07,120
even you know, in the case of the Jews, like

2351
02:20:07,440 --> 02:20:09,680
people who are sort of part of the Biblical tradition

2352
02:20:09,799 --> 02:20:13,520
or something. We're just dealing with a huge assortment of

2353
02:20:13,680 --> 02:20:16,760
radically different culturally, racially.

2354
02:20:17,399 --> 02:20:17,840
Speaker 7: You know all.

2355
02:20:18,440 --> 02:20:21,879
Speaker 3: And we're doing it in at a time when you know,

2356
02:20:21,959 --> 02:20:26,000
that old Anglo leadership superstructure that had always guided this

2357
02:20:26,120 --> 02:20:31,200
country is no longer in place, and we have just

2358
02:20:31,239 --> 02:20:35,479
this sort of this this over built bureaucratic system that

2359
02:20:36,280 --> 02:20:40,520
has replaced any meaningful, coherent leadership class that is open

2360
02:20:40,760 --> 02:20:43,360
for anybody who kind of knows how to Any organized

2361
02:20:43,360 --> 02:20:45,520
minority who knows how to work the controls can take

2362
02:20:45,559 --> 02:20:47,799
control of the ship and drive it for their own purposes,

2363
02:20:47,840 --> 02:20:51,079
you know. And so these are very difficult circumstances that

2364
02:20:51,200 --> 02:20:53,040
like we didn't have to deal with when we were

2365
02:20:53,079 --> 02:20:55,399
trying to rein when we were trying to integrate the

2366
02:20:55,440 --> 02:20:59,479
European immigrants. Over the years, figuring out how to do

2367
02:20:59,559 --> 02:21:02,239
it again, and I just think that we have to

2368
02:21:02,239 --> 02:21:06,040
be able to reach out and uh and create relationships

2369
02:21:06,079 --> 02:21:08,719
with the civilized minorities that are out there. You know,

2370
02:21:08,760 --> 02:21:12,559
We're just we're not going to accomplish it without their cooperation,

2371
02:21:12,760 --> 02:21:14,920
without their help. And I think that you know, they,

2372
02:21:15,040 --> 02:21:17,959
like I said earlier, you know, you ask like you

2373
02:21:18,040 --> 02:21:20,840
talk to a lot of latinas, you talk to like

2374
02:21:21,399 --> 02:21:23,959
Arab women, you talk to a lot of minority women,

2375
02:21:23,959 --> 02:21:25,799
and it's seen as like a status symbol to be

2376
02:21:25,879 --> 02:21:27,959
with a white guy. It still is to this day.

2377
02:21:29,280 --> 02:21:31,280
There are a lot of these people, these groups that

2378
02:21:31,280 --> 02:21:34,760
would be perfectly willing to to to to accept the

2379
02:21:34,879 --> 02:21:38,440
leadership of heritage Americans in this project of you know,

2380
02:21:38,520 --> 02:21:42,159
sort of civilizing the rest of the country and dealing

2381
02:21:42,239 --> 02:21:44,440
with the people that can't be civilized, but we do

2382
02:21:44,520 --> 02:21:47,479
need their help and cooperation. I very much believe that.

2383
02:21:48,319 --> 02:21:51,879
Speaker 6: I think I think that that goes out saying just

2384
02:21:51,879 --> 02:21:54,840
because they're simply even to get the ball rolling, you're

2385
02:21:54,879 --> 02:21:58,479
going to need their cooperation. The thing that worries me, though,

2386
02:21:58,879 --> 02:22:02,280
is because of the people above fifty or above forty

2387
02:22:02,319 --> 02:22:06,920
to your point, or inable to articulate in or really

2388
02:22:07,239 --> 02:22:10,680
cognize it, because not only do they not allow themselves

2389
02:22:10,680 --> 02:22:13,000
to say it, they quickly not allow themselves to think it.

2390
02:22:16,639 --> 02:22:24,120
Eighty percent of the tax dollars that fund the government

2391
02:22:25,040 --> 02:22:27,719
are paid by people that look like you and me.

2392
02:22:29,040 --> 02:22:32,840
So I don't think this will happen now, but eventually

2393
02:22:32,879 --> 02:22:37,319
it will. The people that pay for the government, I think,

2394
02:22:37,360 --> 02:22:40,360
will only allow the government to work against their own

2395
02:22:41,600 --> 02:22:46,920
particular and broad self interest, which none of the organized

2396
02:22:46,959 --> 02:22:50,600
minorities seem to really give a shit about. It's kind

2397
02:22:50,600 --> 02:22:53,280
of that like like you said earlier about like you know,

2398
02:22:53,399 --> 02:22:57,840
taking the silverware, and you know, even the doorknobs off

2399
02:22:58,120 --> 02:23:01,719
of a sinking ship don't really particularly care one way

2400
02:23:01,799 --> 02:23:05,639
or the other. But the people that our politicians are

2401
02:23:05,719 --> 02:23:11,520
unable to articulate existing are the only people that fund

2402
02:23:11,559 --> 02:23:16,040
the government. So you have this type of Mexican standoff

2403
02:23:16,600 --> 02:23:19,399
where one party doesn't realize that they have a gun.

2404
02:23:21,440 --> 02:23:24,600
If any moment in time these people decided to say,

2405
02:23:24,680 --> 02:23:28,079
stop paying for a government that didn't service them, it

2406
02:23:28,120 --> 02:23:32,600
would collapse literally overnight. I mean, the treasury bonds that

2407
02:23:32,879 --> 02:23:38,280
underpin the global financial system are basically promisory notes on

2408
02:23:38,399 --> 02:23:42,879
the future contributions of that class of people. So I mean,

2409
02:23:46,799 --> 02:23:50,120
it could get really shitty if it goes that way.

2410
02:23:50,319 --> 02:23:51,760
And I mean the only way it would probably go

2411
02:23:51,799 --> 02:23:56,319
that way is if the administration lost the midterms and

2412
02:23:56,360 --> 02:23:58,840
then lost the election, which I think is a very

2413
02:23:59,079 --> 02:24:03,760
real risk because of their inability to articulate the people

2414
02:24:03,760 --> 02:24:08,600
that vote for them. Right, Black males don't vote, Black

2415
02:24:08,719 --> 02:24:12,479
females vote almost entirely left. It doesn't really matter how

2416
02:24:12,520 --> 02:24:14,559
many of them you went over. There not a large

2417
02:24:14,559 --> 02:24:19,319
demographic Hispanics. I think, to your point is a coalition

2418
02:24:19,959 --> 02:24:25,159
that that you can build the type of commonality at

2419
02:24:25,239 --> 02:24:28,680
least enough for everyone to vote the same way. But

2420
02:24:28,799 --> 02:24:33,239
I think this inability to recognize that our voters are

2421
02:24:33,719 --> 02:24:37,239
almost entirely white people at this stage in the game,

2422
02:24:37,879 --> 02:24:42,760
and particularly because of the acceleration in rhetoric that guys

2423
02:24:42,799 --> 02:24:46,680
like Shapiro and guys like Mark Levin are doing in

2424
02:24:47,079 --> 02:24:54,040
a negative sense, it's actually the Jews that are accelerating this,

2425
02:24:54,040 --> 02:24:58,479
this group of people finally, as the leftoid say, getting

2426
02:24:58,559 --> 02:25:02,680
racial consciousness. So I think, like, I mean, look what

2427
02:25:02,680 --> 02:25:08,159
happened in Virginia and look what's about to happen in Florida. Right, Like,

2428
02:25:08,200 --> 02:25:16,520
the leadership of the ostensible conservative parties are adverse of

2429
02:25:16,600 --> 02:25:21,319
either a articulating who they actually serve who votes for them,

2430
02:25:21,840 --> 02:25:26,440
and be running candidates that represent those people. And I

2431
02:25:26,479 --> 02:25:28,479
think unless this has figured out in the short term,

2432
02:25:28,479 --> 02:25:32,000
I think it's enough to lose the midterms, especially with

2433
02:25:32,120 --> 02:25:35,520
like the repetitive comments out of the administration about how

2434
02:25:35,600 --> 02:25:38,680
much we need H one b's or whatever. I don't

2435
02:25:38,680 --> 02:25:40,879
think they're aware of how much ground they're losing between

2436
02:25:40,920 --> 02:25:43,000
the only voter base that actually votes for them.

2437
02:25:43,879 --> 02:25:47,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the real importance and significance of Trump and

2438
02:25:47,719 --> 02:25:50,079
why it's important I tell this to people who you know,

2439
02:25:50,799 --> 02:25:53,440
even are very suspicious of jd. Vance because of his

2440
02:25:53,639 --> 02:25:57,760
tel ties or whatever. That forget about the man himself

2441
02:25:57,799 --> 02:26:01,120
and whether you trust him. Like, the significance of these

2442
02:26:01,200 --> 02:26:05,719
people is providing us with enough time, enough cover, for

2443
02:26:06,200 --> 02:26:09,479
enough time to talk to each other and organize with

2444
02:26:09,600 --> 02:26:13,200
each other without having the FBI sicked on us. Like

2445
02:26:13,239 --> 02:26:15,360
that's their certificate and that's really all we need from

2446
02:26:15,399 --> 02:26:17,520
them at this point. You know, you're not going to

2447
02:26:17,559 --> 02:26:21,239
take somebody. I think Tucker is fifty six people guys

2448
02:26:21,239 --> 02:26:23,520
who were fifty six, Like, they don't they don't have

2449
02:26:23,639 --> 02:26:27,399
like revolutionary changes in their moral compass or any of

2450
02:26:27,440 --> 02:26:31,959
those kind of things, you know, like scientific paradigms at

2451
02:26:32,000 --> 02:26:35,760
what's an old quote like that, nobody changes their minds.

2452
02:26:35,799 --> 02:26:38,120
Like the people who believe one thing just retire and

2453
02:26:38,159 --> 02:26:40,520
die off, and they get replaced with people who understand

2454
02:26:40,520 --> 02:26:44,079
the new paradigm better. And that's why that system that

2455
02:26:44,120 --> 02:26:47,200
I was talking about earlier, that is just important, you know,

2456
02:26:47,520 --> 02:26:50,520
like getting somebody getting some of the older generations, somebody

2457
02:26:50,600 --> 02:26:54,000
like Tucker to speak directly to the things that we

2458
02:26:54,159 --> 02:26:57,600
think need to be spoken to, like a I think,

2459
02:26:57,639 --> 02:27:00,399
you know, just for propaganda purposes. That's just not as product.

2460
02:27:00,719 --> 02:27:03,639
But it's you're not gonna not gonna be able to

2461
02:27:03,639 --> 02:27:05,840
do that. You know. What you can do is get

2462
02:27:05,840 --> 02:27:09,079
somebody like him to open up enough space for somebody

2463
02:27:09,159 --> 02:27:11,799
like me to operate, and then somebody like me to

2464
02:27:11,879 --> 02:27:14,959
open up enough space for you know, people who can

2465
02:27:15,040 --> 02:27:19,200
be more direct to operate. And if we can continue

2466
02:27:19,200 --> 02:27:21,200
to take advantage of that in the time we have,

2467
02:27:21,959 --> 02:27:24,120
you know, if we can get VANCE in there for

2468
02:27:24,200 --> 02:27:27,479
eight years. Yeah, I mean this is and again forget

2469
02:27:27,520 --> 02:27:30,200
about like what you think VANCE is gonna accomplish. Anybody

2470
02:27:30,200 --> 02:27:31,799
out there who doesn't like it, I don't care about that.

2471
02:27:31,799 --> 02:27:36,079
That's fine. That gives us twelve years of not having

2472
02:27:36,440 --> 02:27:39,280
you know, the IRS and FBI and everything else on

2473
02:27:39,280 --> 02:27:42,440
our back, of not having the federal government probably going

2474
02:27:42,520 --> 02:27:45,600
ham trying to force Elon Musk to sell Twitter, you know,

2475
02:27:45,680 --> 02:27:48,680
and closing down that channel of communication. It gives us

2476
02:27:48,680 --> 02:27:51,920
twelve years to you know, be able to to have

2477
02:27:52,280 --> 02:27:54,799
in person meetings and talk to each other face to

2478
02:27:54,840 --> 02:27:56,680
face and get to know each other without having our

2479
02:27:56,719 --> 02:28:04,040
groups infiltrated by you know, uh informants the FBI. That's

2480
02:28:04,079 --> 02:28:06,200
the kind of work that needs to be done right now.

2481
02:28:06,239 --> 02:28:08,399
And that's the work that we are able to accomplish,

2482
02:28:08,399 --> 02:28:12,000
whatever anybody thinks about the Trump administration or future Dvant administration.

2483
02:28:12,360 --> 02:28:14,639
And when you add to that the fact that you know,

2484
02:28:15,000 --> 02:28:19,040
this happened to a great degree, like in the Reagan

2485
02:28:19,159 --> 02:28:23,159
and first Bush term twelve years, you know, the Republicans

2486
02:28:23,159 --> 02:28:24,760
held power, and we can look back and say, oh,

2487
02:28:24,760 --> 02:28:29,840
they were forget their politics, right. What happened during that period, though,

2488
02:28:30,799 --> 02:28:34,479
is a lot of the opposition financial networks that had

2489
02:28:34,520 --> 02:28:36,920
existed in the sixties and seventies, a lot of the

2490
02:28:38,760 --> 02:28:42,959
just sort of the ideological infrastructure that had supported the

2491
02:28:43,040 --> 02:28:45,879
left up until like through the nineteen seventies, Like all

2492
02:28:45,920 --> 02:28:47,920
of that stuff just evaporated because they were out of

2493
02:28:47,920 --> 02:28:52,239
power for twelve years, and so money went elsewhere. A

2494
02:28:52,280 --> 02:28:54,040
lot of the people who were running a lot of

2495
02:28:54,079 --> 02:28:57,120
those institutions all retired and got replaced with new people.

2496
02:28:57,319 --> 02:28:59,159
So that you get to the nineteen nineties and the

2497
02:28:59,159 --> 02:29:02,280
Democrats basically had to run a guy uh To to

2498
02:29:02,319 --> 02:29:04,760
win the presidency that was basically a Republican in the

2499
02:29:04,799 --> 02:29:08,239
nineteen eighties, you know, and uh, you know, if we

2500
02:29:08,360 --> 02:29:10,799
if we have twelve years to work with where these

2501
02:29:10,799 --> 02:29:13,680
people are out of power, you know, they're all like

2502
02:29:13,760 --> 02:29:15,799
the Chuck Schumer is going to retire. A lot of

2503
02:29:15,840 --> 02:29:18,920
these people are going to retire, and a lot of

2504
02:29:18,920 --> 02:29:22,079
the talent they have at like the lower levels. You know,

2505
02:29:22,520 --> 02:29:26,559
Chuck Schumer's a moral monster find but like these people

2506
02:29:26,600 --> 02:29:28,959
are at least political animals who knew how to operate

2507
02:29:29,000 --> 02:29:31,040
and knew how to get their way. You know, a

2508
02:29:31,120 --> 02:29:33,879
lot of times Ben Shapiro is not going to be

2509
02:29:33,879 --> 02:29:36,319
able to replace, you know, just or just look at

2510
02:29:36,360 --> 02:29:39,719
the uh, look at the just the generational difference between

2511
02:29:39,760 --> 02:29:41,920
the neo Conservatives. You know, say what you want about

2512
02:29:42,040 --> 02:29:45,280
Norm pod Hortz and Irving Crystal. These were very intelligent guys.

2513
02:29:45,879 --> 02:29:49,280
Their kids are just these retard fail sons who like

2514
02:29:49,319 --> 02:29:52,719
are just embarrassment to their own families, you know. And

2515
02:29:52,719 --> 02:29:55,079
and that's a lot of the Democrat Party. And you know,

2516
02:29:55,120 --> 02:29:57,559
they have themselves to thank for that to a large degree,

2517
02:29:57,680 --> 02:30:00,079
just because you know, one of the best things it

2518
02:30:00,159 --> 02:30:02,920
really happened in the Democrat Party over the course of

2519
02:30:02,959 --> 02:30:06,959
the Obama administration is that the Clinton's, the Clinton machine

2520
02:30:07,600 --> 02:30:10,680
just completely cleaned off their whole bench, like they because

2521
02:30:10,680 --> 02:30:14,159
they didn't want a repeat of twenty eight in twenty sixteen.

2522
02:30:14,200 --> 02:30:16,200
They didn't want anybody to step up who was really

2523
02:30:16,200 --> 02:30:18,639
going to challenge Hillary Clinton. And so when you got

2524
02:30:18,639 --> 02:30:21,920
to the end of the Obama administration, the Democrats had

2525
02:30:21,920 --> 02:30:24,559
no bench whatsoever. I mean, you look at the Republican

2526
02:30:24,600 --> 02:30:27,479
primaries in twenty sixteen, and you had like probably like

2527
02:30:27,799 --> 02:30:31,920
at least half a dozen, probably ten viable candidates, you know,

2528
02:30:32,840 --> 02:30:35,520
forgetting about their politics or whatever, like ten guys who

2529
02:30:35,520 --> 02:30:39,040
probably could have run a competent presidential campaign. The Democrats

2530
02:30:39,479 --> 02:30:42,520
they got nobody, you know, they got nobody, and you know,

2531
02:30:42,559 --> 02:30:49,079
as their financial networks just start to migrate or evaporate,

2532
02:30:49,239 --> 02:30:52,200
because you know, they're just not in power, as a

2533
02:30:52,239 --> 02:30:55,079
lot of the competent leadership that they have left starts

2534
02:30:55,079 --> 02:30:58,879
to retire and die off. Twelve years a long time.

2535
02:30:58,959 --> 02:31:00,959
A lot can happen in twelve years, you know, and

2536
02:31:01,000 --> 02:31:03,799
we can get to a point where I mean, I

2537
02:31:03,799 --> 02:31:06,440
mean just in the time period we've had, and this

2538
02:31:06,479 --> 02:31:08,680
is with a four year break with the federal government

2539
02:31:08,719 --> 02:31:11,840
going hard at us during the Biden administration, but just

2540
02:31:11,879 --> 02:31:14,680
in the time we've had since twenty fifteen twenty sixteen,

2541
02:31:14,680 --> 02:31:17,280
Look how much we've been able to accomplish, you know,

2542
02:31:17,399 --> 02:31:21,239
and so if we can get another you know, nine

2543
02:31:21,319 --> 02:31:24,600
years of that will be in a very very different place.

2544
02:31:24,799 --> 02:31:27,920
You know, things things are changing way too much. You

2545
02:31:27,920 --> 02:31:31,159
look at the polls of like the way younger generations

2546
02:31:31,159 --> 02:31:33,319
think about it. People who are zoomers now are going

2547
02:31:33,360 --> 02:31:37,319
to be in their mid forties, you know, and they're

2548
02:31:37,360 --> 02:31:39,440
going to be the middle managers of companies, and they're

2549
02:31:39,440 --> 02:31:42,719
going to actually be people who, you know, who aren't

2550
02:31:42,760 --> 02:31:46,000
just participating in this stuff as anonymous Twitter trolls, but

2551
02:31:46,040 --> 02:31:49,440
they're going to be participating in society in different ways,

2552
02:31:49,479 --> 02:31:52,280
you know, and in more elevated ways. So we just

2553
02:31:52,280 --> 02:31:54,440
got to buy ourselves at time. And it's why I'm

2554
02:31:55,040 --> 02:31:56,760
you know again, I tell people I don't really care

2555
02:31:56,799 --> 02:32:00,920
what your thoughts about him personally are hundred percent advanced

2556
02:32:00,959 --> 02:32:04,840
twenty twenty eight, just because we he's not hostile to us.

2557
02:32:04,879 --> 02:32:07,000
He's not going to sick the federal government on us,

2558
02:32:07,000 --> 02:32:10,200
and that is all we need residential administration right now.

2559
02:32:10,760 --> 02:32:14,319
Speaker 6: Well that and our own and we'll call it like

2560
02:32:14,399 --> 02:32:19,319
gentile financial networks too, because all of this does, you know,

2561
02:32:19,440 --> 02:32:22,440
organize and costs money. And that's probably the thing that

2562
02:32:22,520 --> 02:32:26,399
I'm most discouraged about is the lack of these But

2563
02:32:26,479 --> 02:32:29,879
if you think about, you know, who amongst us has

2564
02:32:29,879 --> 02:32:34,159
that type of money, you're really all talking about people

2565
02:32:34,200 --> 02:32:36,280
that are past the you know, we'll call it the

2566
02:32:36,520 --> 02:32:42,040
fifty year old dividing line and are fundamentally unable to

2567
02:32:42,079 --> 02:32:46,799
see politics as it is now. I think that that

2568
02:32:46,879 --> 02:32:51,079
and probably housing is probably the biggest hurdle for our

2569
02:32:51,079 --> 02:32:55,680
guys right now. Is the lack of organized financial support,

2570
02:32:55,879 --> 02:33:00,000
like there is no h Arabella networks for people like us.

2571
02:33:02,079 --> 02:33:06,879
It's probably one of the biggest you know, I probably

2572
02:33:06,879 --> 02:33:10,600
say the biggest, if not like the second biggest issue

2573
02:33:10,639 --> 02:33:13,719
that we have to overcome, and I think probably the

2574
02:33:13,760 --> 02:33:18,559
second is housing unless this administration is able to a

2575
02:33:18,719 --> 02:33:21,799
stop and reverse immigration to a large degree, but stop

2576
02:33:22,440 --> 02:33:27,239
and reverse both private equity and more importantly and larger

2577
02:33:27,920 --> 02:33:32,799
foreign nationals purchasing US real estate. They don't live in them, right, So,

2578
02:33:32,920 --> 02:33:36,479
like three quarters of the kind of the apartments in

2579
02:33:36,719 --> 02:33:40,920
Manhattan are owned by Chinese, Russian, Indian nationals that will

2580
02:33:40,920 --> 02:33:43,879
never step foot in them, nor will they ever rent them.

2581
02:33:44,040 --> 02:33:47,879
It's just that their financial systems are coming apart. And

2582
02:33:48,399 --> 02:33:52,200
the safest thing in the world to invest in, safer

2583
02:33:52,239 --> 02:33:54,879
than the US dollars because it protects you from inflation,

2584
02:33:55,120 --> 02:33:58,000
is US real estate. So until we kind of allow

2585
02:33:58,079 --> 02:34:02,399
guys to form families, yes too, I think a type

2586
02:34:02,399 --> 02:34:08,760
of mindset is generated by a man that has a family, right,

2587
02:34:09,159 --> 02:34:13,239
a wife and a house. It makes his perception of

2588
02:34:13,319 --> 02:34:20,079
time much longer, and it makes them capable of doing

2589
02:34:20,879 --> 02:34:23,239
the hard work that takes a long time before you

2590
02:34:23,280 --> 02:34:26,239
see results. So it's not just you know, it gives

2591
02:34:26,280 --> 02:34:30,600
them a long term time horizon, it's something that you know,

2592
02:34:30,639 --> 02:34:33,079
it's a victory that they can put underneath their belt

2593
02:34:33,559 --> 02:34:36,200
that says, Okay, if I struggle at something for a

2594
02:34:36,280 --> 02:34:39,520
very long time, eventually it will yield results for me

2595
02:34:39,559 --> 02:34:41,760
that are worth it. I think that's probably the first

2596
02:34:41,799 --> 02:34:46,000
step on the ladder. And unfortunately, all of the you know,

2597
02:34:46,040 --> 02:34:48,920
solutions that we've seen out of this administration so far

2598
02:34:50,360 --> 02:34:52,159
are not really able to deal with that. But I

2599
02:34:52,159 --> 02:34:54,920
think if you've solved those two things, get get guys,

2600
02:34:55,440 --> 02:35:00,120
get people with ideas like us. You know, luckily, I

2601
02:35:00,159 --> 02:35:04,600
don't you know, I was very lucky professionally, and I

2602
02:35:04,639 --> 02:35:06,280
don't have to worry about a lot of the things

2603
02:35:06,280 --> 02:35:08,840
that other people worry about. But I don't have enough

2604
02:35:08,920 --> 02:35:12,959
money to you know, I'm not a I'm not George

2605
02:35:12,959 --> 02:35:17,600
Soros money. I'm not you know, Bill Gates money, So

2606
02:35:17,760 --> 02:35:20,399
I we don't have those type of people that share

2607
02:35:20,440 --> 02:35:23,239
our ideas that are willing to put money to work

2608
02:35:23,280 --> 02:35:26,399
where people can make this their full time job, because

2609
02:35:26,440 --> 02:35:28,200
we do have to order. I agree with you, we

2610
02:35:28,239 --> 02:35:30,360
do have to. There needs to be an entire infrastructure

2611
02:35:30,399 --> 02:35:35,719
of people that come in with vance, both in public

2612
02:35:35,799 --> 02:35:40,559
organization in private. So I hope those things can could

2613
02:35:40,559 --> 02:35:43,239
get solved. But I asked for you. You're going to

2614
02:35:43,280 --> 02:35:44,680
say something, I'm.

2615
02:35:44,760 --> 02:35:48,159
Speaker 2: Just kind of have to go. I want to give

2616
02:35:48,200 --> 02:35:49,079
Darrell the last word.

2617
02:35:50,959 --> 02:35:52,639
Speaker 3: Well, actually I got a roll too, brother. I just

2618
02:35:52,680 --> 02:35:54,360
got a phone call. I got a contractor that was

2619
02:35:54,360 --> 02:35:55,799
supposed to be at one and he's going to be

2620
02:35:55,799 --> 02:35:57,079
here in just a few minutes, so I got to

2621
02:35:57,159 --> 02:35:57,760
roll out too.

2622
02:35:58,200 --> 02:36:01,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there you go. Look, this was a great show, Darryl,

2623
02:36:01,399 --> 02:36:03,719
thanks for coming, man. Just really honored to have you here.

2624
02:36:04,000 --> 02:36:06,680
Speaker 3: Like I always tell you, man, anytime I'm trying to

2625
02:36:06,719 --> 02:36:10,399
dial back like appearances on just kind of you know,

2626
02:36:10,719 --> 02:36:12,959
turning down invitations in general. But that's never going to

2627
02:36:13,000 --> 02:36:13,840
apply to my friends.

2628
02:36:13,879 --> 02:36:19,680
Speaker 6: So the questions part two come out, Uh probably, I'm

2629
02:36:19,680 --> 02:36:20,360
sure you hate that.

2630
02:36:20,600 --> 02:36:23,719
Speaker 3: Sure, late February, early March. That's what I think I'm

2631
02:36:23,719 --> 02:36:28,520
on track for right now. So yeah, we'll see Stormy

2632
02:36:28,520 --> 02:36:30,000
it was awesome talk to you man. I've been a

2633
02:36:30,000 --> 02:36:31,399
fan for a while. I love you guys on the

2634
02:36:31,440 --> 02:36:32,959
Inquisition and I'll come back anytime.

2635
02:36:34,680 --> 02:36:35,680
Speaker 2: We'll make it happen soon.

2636
02:36:35,959 --> 02:37:04,840
Speaker 9: Thanks every great fella listening, and thanks Against

2637
02:37:10,879 --> 02:38:18,639
Speaker 6: Stott.