Speaker 1: It's the Internet. You're busy, Let's do this. Welcome to
the Game Mesticides podcast. This is the podcast where we
decide everything about the world of games, so you never
have to think for yourself. I'm your host Jeff Grove,
and with me is Mike Minati. In today's episode, Indiana
Jones is out in early access. Let's take a look
at the reviews, and also let's predict the game awards.
We'll do a bunch of different kinds of predictions for
both what we expect to show up there and what
we expect to win when. It'll be a good time.
But first, Mike, how you doing.
Speaker 2: A pretty good, pretty good birthday weekend? Starting very soon here,
very soon. So, yeah, I got to be honest, I'm
like trying, you know, I'm gonna be a little wriitickeous
about it, but I'm trying to hold back a bit
from my youth.
Speaker 1: We're all together.
Speaker 2: Well, no, I'm like really saving up points for the
bullshit that's gonna happen when I turn forty in a
couple of years.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, all right, Yeah, it's gonna be a lot.
Speaker 1: Do you think that's potentially a bad strategy because like
people be like, well, Mike's been a lot more low
key about his birthdays the last couple of years. He's
not going to expect him a lot for his forties.
And then you come out just like I'm not trust me.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be wild, Like I'm not gonna like
rely on people to surprise me. I'm gonna make sure
they're very well. We're like a year of evance of
what's going on for the Big four. Oh, like they'll
know there will be things happening. Okay, are you like
laying the groundwork at all right now? By by like
what is that what you were just doing?
Speaker 1: Like I'm taking it easy this year because hey watch
that when I turned forty, because that's kind of what
you just think.
Speaker 2: That's like the big one is my brother's wives. And
I kind of like told them like, look, I need
you two to get right right now. There's gonna be
some bullshit, and they were they were fighting back pretty
hard already. But you know, A turned forty and like
the boys went to Universal right, but like to be clear,
we went to Universals great, but we went there because
the wise are kind of like, well, you're not gonna
go to Disney World without like us and the kids
are you.
Speaker 3: So we're trying to you know, trying.
Speaker 1: To be a little bit like okay, yeah, work. It's
not like, oh, We're gonna go to Windsor and go
to some strip clubs or something like that. No, it's
gonna be oh god, oh, I haven't been to a
strip club in ten years.
Speaker 3: That lost its appeal real fast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never been. I just remember when I was
a kid, when my brothers turned back to their twenties,
they would go they would drive to Windsor in Canada
and go to the strip clubs there. For some reason,
I've been the more strip clubs than you, which is zero.
But you are such a dirt bag. I'm a dirt bag.
I'm just not that kind of dirt bag.
Speaker 3: Oh I guess I.
Speaker 1: Pick it up.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, I'm just stuck. I'm a criminal dirt bag
ryeah yeah right exactly. Yeah, you have a rap sheet.
I'm you know, legally a dirt bag. Exactly.
Speaker 1: Yes. When you were operating with the bounds of the
wall with your dirt bold.
Speaker 3: You almost say, what's the D word?
Speaker 1: You almost sit there.
Speaker 3: I'm operating within the bounds of by what dirt.
Speaker 1: I was trying to say dirt baggery, and it was
just it got too complicated in the mouth. Yes, sure,
it's been it's been a long week and I've been
doing a lot of talking in the microphones. But fine,
but for pod not for podcasts, for meetings.
Speaker 2: So I want you to know, Look, I don't know
much about what's going for Game of the Year. I'm
just gonna show up, though, and I just I hope
that's fine, right. I don't want to show up and
then that people be like, well, Mike, didn't you know
that this was gonna happen.
Speaker 3: I'm just showing up. I mean as far as I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you know the days to show up, right,
I mean you know that Friday and Saturae. Uh yeah,
there's one day I.
Speaker 3: Had to do some games beat stuff.
Speaker 1: I better I hope that's Friday morning because there are
other people are doing stuff that morning.
Speaker 3: So what's the day of the Game Awards Thursday? Now?
Then yeah, it's fine, Okay, I think it's fantastic.
Speaker 1: That'll work out. Well, yeah, yeah, you just got to
show up. Although I'll make sure you get like the
sheet with all the nominations so if you want to
add stuff of your own, I tell it.
Speaker 3: I've been adding stuff. Don't worry.
Speaker 1: Like add categories as well too, That's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 3: Oh a categories shit.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, let's just add a bunch of stuff like
I think it would be fun. It'd be fun to
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Indiana Jones is is Is it basically out tonight? I
think it's out right now. Right as it launched, reviews
dropped as well, and it's doing pretty well. I think
it's lest I looked it was like.
Speaker 3: Around an eighties that comes out.
Speaker 1: Well. The early access is I think begins now.
Speaker 2: Oh god, I can't this early access. Shit, I can't
handle it. Can we just have one release date?
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's this is their way of raising
the price without raising the price, right, They're like, we
could sell it at more money, for more money to
people who can't wait and let them pay the nerd tax,
and this way everyone else can just get it for
a normal price a couple of days later. So I'm
okay with that, although, yeah, whatever, Okay. So reviews are
are mostly pretty positive, like mostly like it's like, like,
eighty seven is a really good score. Again, that's the
earlier it might have changed since I.
Speaker 2: Last So I sell out an open critic right now,
and that's with sixty two reviews, So I'm gonna stay
around there, sixty You're gonna stay around their reviews.
Speaker 3: Geez.
Speaker 1: A lot of the sentiment seems to be this is
a fun action adventure game that really does a good
job of capturing the spirit of Indiana Jones. I tend
to agree with all of that. I've played a little
bit more than ten hours, probably somewhere between eleven and
twelve hours, and I've done the first major area. So
the way the game works is that you're gonna have
it's gonna open up with a little you know, vignette,
not gonna spoil anything. That stuff's really fun. Then you
know you jump to hey, the mystery, the new Mystery
is beginning with Indiana Jones at college, and that leads
him off to somewhere else. Then you spent a lot
of time in that somewhere else doing side missions, exploring it.
It is intricately like recreated from real life, and they
get they filled up with a lot of stuff to do.
I just it was during that period where I was
doing a lot of side stuff that I was like, huh,
the pacing is a little sluggish here. To me, that's
that's like one of my bigger issues if you watch
an Indiana Jones film. I'm a huge fan of the movies.
I love Indiana Jones. I really have always loved Indiana Jones.
Still do. And I uh, when I started this game,
I did when I was putting together the Tree for Christmas,
I put on Raiders of the Lost Lost Arc and
it's like, you know, Indiana Jones is he's going to
something's going to go wrong, that's going to lead him somewhere.
He's going to do a little bit of archaeology, a
little bit of puzzle solving. Then in the middle of
that puzzle solving, something is going to go wrong that
leads to a giant action sequence and that leads them
to a different place, a different setting, where they kind
of reset and do a lot of that same stuff
all over again. But it's new thing because the characters
have changed and the set has changed. That is, that's
not the sort of like what happens in this game.
This game is you are here in this cool space
that we spend a lot of time building, and so
we're going to have you go back and forth doing
various things. And luckily a lot of those side quests
are pretty solid. Now many of them are just fetch quests.
Go here. I'm like, I call that to themself. Feel
like a waiter. Go here, get the thing, you know,
bring it back.
Speaker 3: You're not an MML player.
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm not, and I'm not saying I'm totally numbed to
these things, but I've been beaten down by them for sure.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, and I just think it's it doesn't
necessarily this game is so close to being such a
the the right Heir to Indiana Jones as opposed to
the last two films that not getting this this feeling
of the propulsion of an Indiana Jones adventure right is
something that's like it was a decision they made and
I'm not sure if it was the right one, but
it did make.
Speaker 3: I mean, is it padding? Is that what you think?
It feels like?
Speaker 1: I mean, there is a lot to do in these spaces,
and a lot of it is like here's a map
of every book that you can get to upgrade your thing,
and there's like thirty of them, and go find each
of them in all these spaces, and that stuff is
does feel like padding. There's other side quests that are
clearly more important. They have like tiers, like a lot
of games do these days of like this is called
field work, and you need to do all this, and
then these are mysteries and these are like and those
are kind of like side quests, and but but you
need to do some of those because some of those
mysteries that are tier down, do that and you'll get
a disguise that makes all the other stuff you're doing
in the main cap quest way easier.
Speaker 2: Okay, So it's like kind of optional, but like very
beneficial to do them.
Speaker 1: Yes, there's there's there's I'm looking at it as like
stuff that's part of the main story, the field work.
There is the quasi optional ones that are gonna, like
really be beneficial to do, and then there's a lot
of optional ones below them. Either way, it's like, regardless,
I did about as much as I wanted to do,
and still I'm like, oh, I'm ready to move on
from this first major area well before the game was
ready for me to move on. But eventually it does,
and it happens with a great action sequence and great
characters and like great characters that are both great because
they're Indiana Jones characters and great because Machine Games who
has been great at characters in the Wuffenstein games, and
they're excellent here. Lots of very funny writing, great character
moments they do, the Indiana Indie doing his thing like
smirking at the camera and things like that. They get
all that stuff right, and then you whisk off to
the next new big area and you know it's stuff like, oh,
you're at a dig site and you see like the
little wooden structures over a hole that they're using to
like pulling things down, and the thing like you recognize
from Raiders of the Lost Arc. It's like, man, it's
cool to just see this stuff and be in this
world with these things. But then once again, a lot
of side quests in this area, and it does drag
on a little bit. I mostly think that this is
a game that is solid to very good, and I
think a lot of it. It's going to whether or
not other people find it fun. It's going to come
down to how bothered they are by the structure of
the game, and if they're if they kind of give
themselves over to Hey, I'm in I'm on the archaeology
side of this Indiana Jones Adventure, and so I'm ready
to explore a world. They did a good job of that.
It's just a lot. And then if you work, if
you come in this and you want action adventure uncharted
one set piece to the other, it's not one set
piece to the next set piece. It's very rarely like that.
Speaker 2: Actually, you're a big machine games fan, de I mean,
are you getting a lot of that vibe from Metty?
You like really picking up like, oh, this is this
is clearly from the people who make those Wolfan sign
games that I like a lot.
Speaker 1: I'm getting a good amount of it. Yes, it's it's
definitely toned down from what Wolfing's sign is, but it's
still Nazis that you're you're punching. H you know. You
also deal with some Italian fascist at points and none listen, hey,
watch out, buddy, is all I'm saying now. You So
you get fun characters to beat up, and the game
does a good job of hamming it up with these villains.
There are some you know, supernatural elements because of Indiana Jones. Again,
Machine Games is good at that stuff from the Wolfenstein games,
and I've enjoyed that. And then you get like the
characters really dropping some really good lines. I posted one
on Twitter and on Blue Sky of a Nazi talking
about how easy it is to manipulate insecure mails, and
it's like, yeah, like this is the kind of thing,
the incisive commentary that I really appreciated in Wolfenstein too,
and they're bringing some of that here as well. I
think the best bits are just Troy Baker does an
incredible Harrison Ford. It really is very very good, and
all of the Harrison Ford isms, all of the indianisms
are here, and that stuff really works, and you know,
pairing that up with machine games is sort of a
very you know, scalpel like writing is a match made
of heaven for me a lot of the time.
Speaker 2: I'm very excited to play this. I held back from
doing the the early such just because a little bit busy,
and also we're playing this on the game Ass Game Club,
so I do want to be able to stream it
so people can watch me played through it when we
eventually do our discussion for that. But yeah, I think
this sounds like a ton of fun and like I
hear the things that are bothering you, and I don't know.
My guess is I won't be as bothered by that stuff.
But again, I'm I'm very used to side quests and
I I like lingering, I like giving some of that stuff.
We'll see, though, maybe I'll I'll be I'll get a
little bit thrown off by the piece because I also
like I've tried it a lot, and maybe I wish
it was a bit more like that.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna be curious to see where most people fall.
I'm I will say I'm a little surprised at how
good the scores are, you know, not that I would
like be giving it a five out of ten or
anything like that. I think I'm you know, on the
giant Bomb scale, I would be somewhere between a three
and a four out of five, you know, I think
by the end of the game, because I am I
keep playing it because I want to keep playing it,
and I am enjoying it, and I do once I've
kind of given it myself over to the way it works.
All that stuff is well made and good, so it's like, okay, yeah,
four out of five probably it is where I would
end up. You know. On top of all that, there's
jenk at least on the PC version. I've been playing
a lot of weird animations stuff that is, you know,
half broken Brody walking around with his arms stiff, so
he looks like a weird little caveman. That was pretty funny.
At the beginning of the game, loading in and Indy's
hair was all like blown back, and so it kind
of like you could see like the underhair that like
just looks like a little texture and then the hair
is all blowing back here. Small things like that. Also,
it's you know, Indy is a regular guy, and so
this is a game about climbing around and exploring things.
But you know, it takes him a second to climb
up a rock, and you really feel that, especially when,
like let's say you were to miss a jump and
you fall down and now you got to do it
all over again. That could feel pretty painful and laborious.
So I'm I'm someone's like this bothers me. And also
I think I might have made the same choice if
I were them, because it's Indiana Jones and he is
just a guy, and so I like it's it's newance.
I have a nuanced feeling about it of this is
something that I appreciate that they're doing. They're representing the
character in an authentic way, and yet it's just gonna
be the most fun feeling video game sometimes not always,
but you know, then you go punch a Nazi and
they they do the big beefy smashing sound that always
happens in India, chicken bone crunch, Yes, the chicken bone crunch,
just like the slap of the meat. It's just really
good stuff. So yeah, do.
Speaker 4: You think we're gonna get another We're gonna get another
Games of the of Indy, Like can you see it
like in the future, this turning into like a like
a multiple titles saya or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yes, I think so, and I hope so there's a
strong foundation here regardless of any of the qualms I have,
And I I think it's, like I said, it is
the worthy successor to Indiana Jones. It is the uh
if you want the franchise to keep going, this seems
like the right way to do it, at least for
the next you know, several years. So I hope they
get a chance to do a full trilogy. That would
be I think that could be fantastic. And uh, I
think you know, they really know what they're doing with
like making it feel like the movie where you know,
all of the secondary characters are played by real actors,
so they have their their faces scanned in. I don't
think it's like face facial capture, like you know, the
faces look kind of look up at that's the game,
Like I'm I'm with that, that kind of talking. But
you know, the characters look really good beyond that, and
it's like there's acting happening beneath that, because there's really
good voice acting from these great actors, and it just
feels cinematic. It just feel if you want your Indiana
Jones to feel cinematic. The game does that a lot
of the time outside of the pacing issues. I think.
I gotta say, though, this is one where it's like, man,
I guess I don't really. This is what makes me
feel like I can ever trust my own taste because
I'm like, I think people are mostly not gonna like
this one, and everyone seems to like it. I know
there's a few negatives.
Speaker 2: It's funny because the very first thing I saw when
LIKEWS dropping was just was was Greg Miller tweeting out
that that he didn't like it.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh no, that went, oh never mind.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah, I'll get like right, not that like
he's wrong thing, but just like like the first one
I saw was like one of the lower things there.
But look, Jeff, don't worry. I'll play it and then
I'll let you know if your opinion is right or wrong.
Speaker 1: Yeah. That's why I appreciate that this this works for me,
Like if I had to like choose out of all
these like film follow up games because we were this
is starting to be a trend, right the Harry Potter
game Avatar Star Wars. In this the Star Wars Outlaws
all games that take place in movie universes for the
most part, and they are not following the main character.
They take place later in the timeline or one where
the other I guess Indiana Jones does but trying to Yes,
it's a side story. Yes, If I had to, like
pick the one I enjoy the most, I think it's
still Star Wars Outlaws.
Speaker 3: So it's like, is that what driving you crazy?
Speaker 2: You having a little bit of like a white white
people like this one's so much but a little bit
very hard on Star Wars Outlaws?
Speaker 3: Is that your thing?
Speaker 1: A little bit? I'm just a little confused, And I
think part of it's like, you know, that one's you
be soft and we don't like them, and this one's
machine games we do like them. I think, you know,
people like Indiana Jones for certain reasons. This game, this
game has nine out of ten of those reasons. So
maybe that's what it is. But I just when I'm
like looking at a glance, I have a hard time
understanding why this is working for people, and Star Wars
Outlaws didn't. So yeah, little little weirded out.
Speaker 3: Well, like I said, I'll let you know if you're
a freak. Uh soon.
Speaker 4: I appreciate fucking freak speaking of us takes a fiance
shut him down? Oh you saw that was my headquaight?
I mean that's too bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that was a good segue. Yeah, absolutely well done.
Speaker 3: We give him a yellow pick man.
Speaker 2: Look how much he's piping up offs and he's asking
you follow up questions.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I appreciate it. We we're talking about
the game. But how dare you segue my pot shutting down? Yeah?
I not shocked, Yeah, not shocked. At the same time,
this is Ubisoft, the company that has had a handful
of games sort of rise out of the ashes of
tough launches. But that seems like that era is over.
They don't seem to either have the patience or the
belief that that's possible anymore. Like this game probably wasn't
going to become Rainbow six Siege, right.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think there's a turnaround. I mean, it's
fine because that was the because of stuff like Rainbow
six Siege and then a Realm Reborn, I think everybody
got real excited, like, well, we could just fix these
games actually, and I think now the recent trend is like, no,
you don't. It's actually just so expensive and it doesn't
work out anyways.
Speaker 3: You do just bouve on. You know, the game closing
down is whatever.
Speaker 2: But there's studio closures in layoffs associated with this, right, yep, yep.
Speaker 1: They're closing down San Francisco team that was partially responsible.
There's no soccer team. They're winding down a team in Sydney.
They're laying off quite a few people. Two hundred and
seventy seven ish, like up to two hundred and seventy
seven a weird number, say up to It's like, well,
then it must be two hundred and seventy.
Speaker 3: Seven weird day. Ye, it's not e Thei're gonna low
ball it after that.
Speaker 1: Uh huh. And then they're they're going to take a
lot of the other people and move them other over
to other games, probably Assassin's Creed. Yeah, it's it's tough,
you know. I saw that chart going around about Ubisoft's
how much money to make per employee, and it is
very low compared to every other publisher in the industry.
They employ so many people and their games are underperforming.
That as a recipe for very bad things, and they
are in the midst of that right now? How they
break it? It's like, I mean, really, there is no
other answer other than well, I guess there's two answers.
Put out games that make enough money to justify all
of this, or you got to cut way more jobs.
And I'll say, for as boneheaded and as bad as
the leadership of Ubisoft is, they seem pot committed to
trying to make the whole thing work. So they you know,
while they are they do lay off a lot of people,
They have laid off a lot of people. They still
employ tons of people, tons of people, and uh, they
seem to be committed to trying to make that work.
So we'll see if they can. I doubt it because
it is the same leadership that got them there in
the first place.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that there's kind of a just wait till
Assassin's Creed shadows, Just wait till Shadows, right, Yeah, it.
Speaker 1: Was wait till Star Wars, right, it was definitely was that.
Now it's weight till Shadows.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what Shadows better hit, because I
don't really like what beyond that, Like it is just
more Assassin's Creed. Well, if the last Saises of Creed
doesn't hit, then what the heck are we doing here?
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I guess you.
Speaker 2: Could do another far Cry and that'll be okay, but
that's it, right, Uh yeah, Shadow doesn't do it. I
think I think there's gonna be something seismic that happens
if you will be savage seems that's right.
Speaker 1: M yeah, like what other choice do they have? Foam
Stars is getting no more updates, It'll still be operating.
I know, God, you're a huge Film Stars fan, Mike,
how you hands?
Speaker 3: Uh No, I'm not gonna play it on the bit No,
I'm not.
Speaker 1: Uh do you ever play it?
Speaker 3: I played it at Summer Game Fest that one time,
and it.
Speaker 2: Was okay, okay, yeah, yeah, I played at Summer game
fests like that's fine. I mean, I'm just, you know,
gonna keep playing Splatoon or if I want this kind
of thing, even though it was different in some ways,
but like the aesthetics of it didn't really vibe with me. Right,
The characters weren't all that appealing, and that's so important
for this kind of thing. Again, it's the it's the
least shocking thing in the world that this didn't take off.
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, I think I think if you are one
of these companies that has one of the shooters that
is underperforming, and you're sitting around and then you see
Black Ops six come out and just take over the world,
It's like, Okay, yep, we gotta scrap it this. There's
just gonna be absolutely no room in the in the
room for one of these games, and for us to
try to bring it back would be completely silly. Let's
just go back to the drawing board and try something else.
I mean, God, if you're ubi self, though, do you
keep trying to make one of the Okay, they've tried
to make shooters work over and over to keep they.
Speaker 2: Always say, and all these companies say this when they
have one of these Lesarus game fails, Like, where's this
is still an important part of our strategy?
Speaker 3: Okay? I mean I like, what's the next one?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Like what?
Speaker 2: Like what what does it even happen next? And why
is that going to be any different? Is it just
a roll of the dice? Because not even know if
it's a roll of the dice anymore? Yeah, I don't
know if that's the fighting ever had a chance.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I Foomstars ever had a chance It's not just that
it didn't get lucky or that, you know, it voted
on red and it came up black. I just don't
think it's ever going to work out like this.
Speaker 1: Yep, I agree, Warcraft was still listed. Warcraft one and
two were delisted. They're from getting they're getting yes, that
they said, and then Dog mentioned, Hey, when that happens
for those of you own it, we will continue updating
in the background to ensure it will run on your systems.
They you know, they had a really kind of somber
post about it. They seem very frustrated. State.
Speaker 3: I think they're pretty frustrated.
Speaker 2: It's weird, Like I don't have the problems with the
Warcraft went into remasters that are dead that some people do.
But it's weird to like make gg get rid of these.
I can find it hard to believe that these were
ever cutting into the sales of their re releases on
battle Neet.
Speaker 3: It's just kind of a dick move.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, real quick. Apparently Indiana Jones is available on
Battlenet Latin yeh.
Speaker 4: Company, So you make.
Speaker 1: Jaz wrote a story about it or something like that.
I'm just glanced at it. So I'm not gonna speak
anymore because I didn't look at all the details, but
it was the way it was really like, Hey, Microsoft
seems to be taken over battle dot net more than
it ever has, you know, since they partactition a little
bit ago.
Speaker 2: I've I think maybe got wires crossed there. I don't
see anything about Indiana Jones a battle Net.
Speaker 1: Okay, is there not? Even? Is there even like a promo?
Speaker 3: I'm don't.
Speaker 2: I seen a promo for a vowed, so I guess
that could happen. But yeah, there's some promo stuff here.
I actually don't see one for Indiana Jones, which almost
seems weird.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was just a promo and it's like it's
programmatic or something like that, and it popped up as
Indiana Jones for him or something.
Speaker 2: I think it might be advertised on there. I don't
think you can buy and install Indiana Jones, right.
Speaker 1: Marina says he sees Crash four on there, so like
either way, they have battle NEETs sitting over there. I
wonder if they do have any plans, but well, that's
something we'll see.
Speaker 2: I think the Activision tried that Activision tried putting more
non Blizzard games on Battle.
Speaker 4: There and I wasn't happy about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it turns out Blizzard games do well and Battle
everything else does well on Steam.
Speaker 1: You can just straight up on crash Bandicoot forum, battlenet.
It's weird.
Speaker 3: Oh really, that's why.
Speaker 1: Look it's forty dollars. Yeah, let Marino link to it.
Speaker 3: I think that was back when they were experimenting more
with that kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, probably.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's see here, last couple of stories of the
Thing shadow dropped. That's uh, you know the the Night
Dive right was working on that.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, we knew there was coming. But there's
a survival.
Speaker 1: Horror shooter game. Yeah, it's it's out now. I'm like
immediately got it. I might find some time to play it,
but again, not not a lot of time between now
and we actually do our Game of the Year stuff, So.
Speaker 3: Right, I am. I'm pretty excited to try this out.
Speaker 2: I only finally just watched The Thing for the first
time last year and really liked it, and I heard
that this game was good, so I'm glad that we
got this remaster of it. Yeah, definitely try It's a
little weird to kind of miss like Halloween time.
Speaker 3: Not that the thing is the most HALLOWEENI of horror things.
Speaker 2: But still horror anytime a horror think comes on December,
even that nos Ferati movie that everybody likes, right, I'm like, well,
that's nice, kind of a kind of weird to come
on December, but whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then finally, Neo Geo is gonna appear on
Evercaid devices. Ever Kaid is that company, and you can
look over my shoulder if you're watching the video version
that's a MegaMan Evercade countertop arcade system. They will likely
do something like that with Neogo now, and a lot
of these things support cartridges. I think that thing has
a cartridge slot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have two cartridge slots on here, so you know,
like I hope I can just get Metal Slug Series
cartridge or you know, the Neo Turf Master or something
like that, like a sports collection, and that'd be great.
Speaker 1: Yep, I think, and it seems likely that that will happen.
So yeah, pretty cool. I'm glad that you know. There's
definitely talks like you know, Sean Waydon made headlines again
saying hey, I don't know, I don't see much of
the use for the PS, PlayStation and the Xbox, and
especially they're back and forth battle anymore. And I think
it's probably right. We talk about that a lot. But
then I'm like, I'm glad that there are growing spaces
for weird little companies that even sell cartridges of games. Yes,
and that's that's happening out there, and I'm glad people
are spending money on it too, because I want to
see that stuff thrive in a way. Okay, that does
it for the big topics. Why don't we take a break.
We'll come back, we'll do the super chats, and then
we've got some other stuff to talk about for Game
of the Year, game Awards, all that good stuff right
after this. All right, we are back, Mike. Do you
have those super chats?
Speaker 3: I sure do.
Speaker 2: We got a bunch from Simon from Saskatchewan here to start. Hey, Simon,
it says get Jolly Bees when you're in California. It's
so good. What's jolly Bees?
Speaker 1: I think it's like a Filipino fast food restaurant, I
want to say, or is that just because Jan likes it?
I know that they have some good food there. That's
Jan seems to really like it. I've always wanted to
try it because of that.
Speaker 3: Simon from Sorry you have more to say about Jolly Bees.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, I'll talk to Janey if
this is possible, Okay.
Speaker 2: Simon from Saskatchewan also says they have you ever played
the Ninten sixty four Batman Beyond game? It's super short,
but boy is it shiit twenty four percent Metacritic. You
could get Mike to play it and have an aging
background to give him advice like in the show. I've
seen videos about this game. It looks terrible. It is
like very short, and it seems it seems maybe simple
in its terribleness. Perhaps maybe that's wrong though, but you know,
we're going to do a blightening round here, so coming up,
you know, and that maybe a couple years. Yeah, so yeah, right,
whenever we get through things, we're telling you play club
to borrow, right, that's the plan. Yeah, all right, there
you go. And then Simon from Saskatchewan again think so much.
Simon says, I have an idea for a trivia game
for you too. Does the IP have a license game?
Get to say yes or no? And if yes, which
device did it come out for? Eminem's Platoon, Mountain Dew,
Black Cauldron. It's interesting because so many have it's somebody
like Eminems. I bet there's eminem games on like six platforms.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, Platoon does on the NES. I played
that game. It was weird.
Speaker 2: I bet Black Cauldron has like a text based adventure
on the Apple two or something.
Speaker 1: Sure, right that Honestly, that sounds a little familiar. Even
Mountain Dew. I doesn't count the you know, jet Moto
probably not not, probably not in the spirit of the questions.
So I don't know about Mountain Dew. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I about there were had its own game. Interesting.
Speaker 2: Let's see her now. From our Lincoln member Antonio Morales
for grub, when did you stop telling people you're won
your parlay for ten K? I just won a ten
late parlay Sunday, and I've been telling everyone since thanks.
Speaker 1: When. I definitely was like at a certain point that
money gets spent, right, because I had to spend it
on like PA have some credit card bills. And now
it's like, well, that's almost like it never happened. So
that's depressing.
Speaker 3: Gest uh huh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Listen, I left, like I said, I left five
hundred dollars in the account, and I've been putting bets
on stuff using that money ever since, and so it's like, oh,
I can add a little stuff for free, and it's like,
you know, honestly, it's funny money at a certain point,
so that's fun. And then when that stuff comes up,
I always explained, oh, yeah, I won ten thousand dollars
and I kept some money in there, and that's when
it comes up. So not as frequently as it once did,
although it is wanted to bring it up in like
every time I bring it up around Dan Dance, like,
what the hell? I still can't believe that happened.
Speaker 3: It's yeah, you brought it up way less than I
ever would have. That's for sure.
Speaker 1: It was an incredibly cool moment. It definitely was.
Speaker 2: Nathan Maloney says, hey, meet man, first time chatter, longtime fan.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Nathan ranked these games in terms of being at TGA.
Speaker 3: Get you ready, Yeah, I'm ready.
Speaker 2: Wolverine Project Double O seven, Wonder Woman Persona five in
the Respawn Bent Reactor's Star Wars game with love, Nathan,
which one do you think is the most likely? Again,
that's Wolverine Project Double seven one Woman Persona six the
respawn Star Wars game.
Speaker 1: I would I would probably put the most likely as
man That's tough. I think I would go the most
likely as Project Double O seven because it just feels
like that's io interactive. They could very easily like get
that done, like with just their approval and MGM's approval
and Amazon's approval, whereas Wonder Woman has so many more stakeholders.
I think because it's a giant corporation that it might
be a little bit difficult. But Wonder Woman would be
my next game, yes, actually so yeah, I think Project
Double seven and then Wonder Woman are one and then two,
how about you?
Speaker 2: I think that sounds right, and then Wolverine maybe Star
Wars after that. Persona six is a little a little tough.
We had two Persona games technically kind of this year,
a Persona three reload and metaphor of Vintasio. I think
they're gonna take at least a year here, let those
side a little, Yes, exactly, we.
Speaker 1: Don't hear about Persona six or at least a year.
That's what I think as well. Any honestly, chances are
even longer. Yeah, but then yeah, I think I'm with you.
On the rest there where it's like, yeah, I guess
there's a chance we see something Wolverine, but I would
probably put Star Wars even before that, but who knows.
Speaker 3: Okay, there was a diary.
Speaker 2: I remember this time last year, you thought we might
see Wolverine in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: But you feel stupid now.
Speaker 1: Real dumb now? Yeah, absolutely us. That was like weird
to see like how many things they were planning to
release before Wolverine, and now it does sound like maybe
they are dropping all that and Wolverine actually will be next.
Speaker 2: So yeah, again, I don't know if that Venom Games
happening or Austin Taylor says, I like your Golden girls
Rose my bananas joke. You're the one we found you,
all right, Yeah, I have no memory this way.
Speaker 3: Well you must be talking about grub.
Speaker 1: Because Jan said Blanche my bananas, and then I was like,
I like to Rose my bananas, and I was like,
I'm trying to think of other Golden girls that juice.
Speaker 2: Did you see the comment on the dump truck? A
person who works in a grocery store is very concerned
about you not washing your fruits.
Speaker 4: You don't wash you Oh.
Speaker 1: My god, I never said I didn't watch my fruit.
I just said I don't rinse my apples every time.
What happens is when we get them home. Steph Rince
is the fruit right away. So it's been rinsed once
every time without fail. I just every time I pick
up an apple, I'm not like seeking out a seat necessarily.
Speaker 4: That's okay, you're fine, I tell ye, wash your fruit.
Speaker 1: And that's the reality of the story that gets that's
probably what I should do. Yes, that's the reality of
the story that just gets set on the voicemail dump truck,
you just say random bullshit, screaming.
Speaker 2: Man, it says have grub impersonate Joe Pesci and Robert
De Niro as to talk about what they think wins
the Game of the Year at the Game Awards.
Speaker 1: This is not gonna's complicated. Yeah, Joe don't want to help.
Speaker 3: If I was Joe Pesci, definitely then I then I said,
uh no, you can't wait.
Speaker 1: I hate this already. I'm so bad I can't do
it anymore. This was so much fucking guy. Is that
what Joe? Is that what Robert De Niro said? This
fucking god, you're talking to me.
Speaker 2: I don't want to do it anymore. I was like,
I can do this one. I can maybe do this one.
I cannot. You cannot I ever want to do it again?
The button h no screaming Manen, we won't be doing that.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for the supertation of the money.
Speaker 2: Mister por says, good luck, Mike, are keeping Jeff's focus
on this episode? Wild Lions are on Thursday night?
Speaker 1: What are you talking about?
Speaker 3: They're winning by ten. It's fine. They basically one you
can stop watching.
Speaker 4: That's why he was making fatasist all the time. It's like,
look at he was like tweak and I was like,
what the fuck is wrong with this one?
Speaker 3: Who used to watch?
Speaker 1: Yeah while you're talking or whatever?
Speaker 2: Andres Rihanna says, I'm hyped for secret Levels so I
can learn more about this mega dude that Mike lives
so much. I mean, who the hell is that? Very
exposs to the dogs. Some people watched it early. I've
kind of hearing some mixed things. Ye Gen guy was
super high on it. Jean Park watching it post seemed
a bit nicer to it, although even Gene was like that.
She said all the PlayStation ones are bad. Like all
of those just feel like pretty naked commercials, especially the
one where it's just kind of like the montage of
PlayStation characters, right right, But then.
Speaker 1: Those are just PlayStation commercials. That's like what they do
for PlayStation commercials, right. It is like we had this before,
you've done this before.
Speaker 2: And then like, I guess I thought each one was
gonna be like a fifty minute thing. I guess that
Mega Man thing is like seven minutes long, and I'm like,
what the hell?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, go ahead, Christian, sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 4: The Love and Robots is like that. They're very short animations,
like it's not like a half an hour episode for
each is some of them are like five minutes long.
That gonna deal.
Speaker 1: Go ahead.
Speaker 4: Yeah. The pac Man one, people was like, oh, it's
so weird, and turns out the people that make pac
Mans wanted the episode to be super weird.
Speaker 1: So I kind of that's one of the good ones
I've heard. It's the pac Man one.
Speaker 3: I heard someone else said that's the worst one.
Speaker 1: Okay, hell yeah that. Actually, the other one I heard
was very good is Armored Corps, which, okay, I will
one million percent be watching that, So I heard I
think Jean.
Speaker 2: He said that he really liked the New World one,
although the Concord one was pretty bad.
Speaker 4: Oh no, concor come back, It.
Speaker 2: Says the Concord was basically just an extended version of
that opening like CG trailer we all got for the
game that nobody went. I do want to watch the Concord.
We should watch some of these in LA. Yeah, it's
not a bad idea.
Speaker 1: That could be fun. Okay, we'll see next up.
Speaker 2: It's from Phil khoy Caho, Phil, Phil, Thank you, Phil.
I already own a switch Steam Deck, Meo Mini plus,
Analog pocket and an amber Nick thirty five XXSP, so
I should totally buy it REGINALD Pocket five right, grub
excuse me?
Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, we'll go get it. Just get it now.
What's the same thing you got? The brick, the Ti
Murray brick or something like that. I can't remember the
exact name of the of the company. Should be here
pretty soon though. I got it from keep Retro, I
think is what it is. So you can check out
their stuff there. That one's just like it's like kind
of a MEU Mini in a lot of ways, but
it's even better and people are seem to be big
fans of it. I'm excited. I kind of I want
one that's pocketable, that is not the pocket because that
one's too expensive to just throw in a pocket.
Speaker 2: Austin Taylors, Oh wait now, first off, excuse me, Melian
Miracle says Norwegian forest Cats rule more of grub Cat.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Nico was made his first appearance on John Bomb
in a very long time. On voicemail Dump truck today.
The kids left the door open, and usually the doors open.
Usually doesn't come down here like steps are not his friend.
You could tell by how fat he is and say,
but he came down here and he cried at me.
I'm like, all right, come on up. And then he
set up on my lap for a while. So check
that out. He's a big, big, handsome boy.
Speaker 2: Austin Taylor says. Walt Disney and I share birthday today.
Happy birthday, Austin Taylor.
Speaker 1: Happy birthday Walt Disney.
Speaker 4: And okay, I'm not that happy happy. He has some
thoughts about some groups of people.
Speaker 1: What are the thoughts thoughts?
Speaker 4: I don't want to say it all.
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm sure because you feel that way. You
have a specific example on mine.
Speaker 4: I played the fifth for I don't know. Okay.
Speaker 1: Interesting. Did you think that you have that struggle of
opinion about a person you would know exactly what they
did they did?
Speaker 4: No, it's okay.
Speaker 1: I'll say this is why you can't trust Yellow Pickman everybody.
This is why they're the first to die.
Speaker 2: Wow, next of us from the entire wolf, I'll be real, guys.
Xbox sucks at marketing. I feel like the Dishonored style
gameplay for Indie wasn't properly showing the trailers. Happy b Day, Mike,
thank you entire.
Speaker 1: Why how do you? How do you do that? Though?
Speaker 3: It's hard?
Speaker 1: I think a general audience like, what are you selling here?
You're selling Indie. That's what you're selling. You got to.
Speaker 2: Focus on that, right, like you're not. You're probably not
worried about people who likes Dishonored.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, yeah you shut down one of those studios. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's rough, but I get it, like we did.
Speaker 2: We maybe never got a great sense of what the
game actually was like, and that can be frustrating. Connor
Wood says, there is a star and a star and
a dangerous gravity.
Speaker 1: Do you know what this means there's a star and
a star and a dangerous gravity. No, but I feel activated.
It sounds important. Yeah, it does. Like I'm gonna write
this down in my notebook and I'm probably gonna use it.
Laura Lia and the laser operator.
Speaker 3: I have a notebook.
Speaker 1: Thirty minutes today and then I immediately just gave it
to one of the guys, like I'm not going to
use this.
Speaker 2: There was what was it on voice about dumb trick
today or everyone was like, Jeff, why don't you just
write things down or something calendar reminders. I was like, guys,
I had this conversation with Jeff ten years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, move on, and guess what. Everybody with ADHD has
that conversation a million times in their life and you
have to like go go whatever. Every time it's like
it just doesn't work. Please just let me alone.
Speaker 2: Oh so chat's laughing and apparently it's a it's a
one thousand ex resist reference.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: To John, Cody says have fun in in La next week.
I'm flying to LA tomorrow. I got to write some
jokes for two unannounced TGA celebrity presenters. Good luck guessing.
Oh my goodness. Congratulations is it Jeff grabbing Mike MANAUGHTI
is it?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: It should.
Speaker 2: Speaking speaking of celebrity presenters, Chris Pratt says, see you
both next week in lat It sounds kind of like
a threat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it always does with Chris Bratt and his ellipses.
Speaker 3: Incredible.
Speaker 1: Do you want to try to guess who the celebrities are? Well,
they did.
Speaker 3: They did announce that Snoop Dogg's performing there?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: What is there? Like? Is there like a video game
related film or TV show coming out soon?
Speaker 2: I'm on this Hindy without Harrison Ford. It's not like
I mean, maybe he's there to talk about it. Maybe
Harrison Ford and uh What's the Place are gonna come
out together?
Speaker 5: Baker?
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, no way they're gonna get Harrison for here.
Likes money, he likes money, he likes big money. No
chose money.
Speaker 2: I don't know when they wrote a check for him
to get his likeness for the thing. They may have
like included there, you got to make like a couple
appearances to promote this.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's maybe, but I don't see him like going out.
He doesn't look like.
Speaker 2: It's not guarantee, but it could happen otherwise, I don't
know what Muppet isn't busy?
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, they're.
Speaker 2: All so busy these days now, yeah, oh yeah, Jack Black,
very distinct possibility, right, Steve from minecrafting, Oh yeah, sure yeah, and.
Speaker 1: It could just be something random.
Speaker 2: We got Alpacina last year for no reason, right, true?
She will be there, yes, yeah, hunter By is going
to come up with that guy who killed the insurance.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm watching this, let's go, let's.
Speaker 2: Chris Pratt also says, turn on my PlayStation five and
saw these new themes, so nostalgic reminds me of when
I was stomping Tupas and Mario Arcade. I think I
think the time doesn't really match up there, Chris.
Speaker 1: I'm sure listen, I'm sure you remember all that distinctly
and clearly.
Speaker 3: No problem, Chris, Right there, you go, Thank you, Chris Pratt.
Speaker 2: Oh Gruggs says when will Nikki be chained to their
chair and locked in the room until they become Infinity
Nikki or die? Trying Mike should answer this and his
jammed voice so that I missed my opportunity for that.
I can't voices, just be trying to make my voice.
I'm just trying to make my deep so some a
little bit, a little bit more like jenin.
Speaker 1: You sound like you're about to get ready to do
your uh uh, your pack voice. It sounds like, Okay,
I got the I got the ten the timber of
the voice. Now I just need to do the complete
insanity of whatever I do when I actually do that
voice like you're just not doing that part. Grub grub.
Speaker 3: Here's the thing though, hot dog missiles.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go jan God. I imagining one of
the big like missile launcher that Arnold has in Commando
or whatever. Would you filled with like fifty hot dogs?
I would be very happy about that. Tomorrow's a busy
day because we're gonna try to do Blake Club tomorrow.
But if there's a if there's a gap, I might
just say, hey, Nikki, you should do it. Because they
downloaded it.
Speaker 3: Okay, they're ready to go. Hex process.
Speaker 2: It's uh, it is hard to believe that oop be
soft will succeed if live service games and there are
better games like the Finals that isn't even taking over
the world. You basically have to be Fortnite. It seems
that's the thing. Like a lot of these games aren't bad. Yes, right,
yeah I was fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Next was fine.
Speaker 3: I thought Concord was fine. There's anything that wrong with Concord.
No one played that except for Christian.
Speaker 4: So for me, I did play the ship Out all
that game before he die.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's rough. I mean it's like, like, what
do you need to make it?
Speaker 2: You need to have the Marvel ip Like Marvel Rivals
has launched, and that has as good a chance as
anything in a while, And there are so many factors
there where it looks like it looks like a good
game and had a successful beta, it's got the Marvel license.
There's a lot of people looking for something that's like
Overwatch but is an Overwatch, right, but yeah, that's not
really happening.
Speaker 1: It's take on Marvel is also like pretty well received,
Like no one's like, hey, these look like stunt actors
or whatever it's they're they're doing a lot of stuff right,
and there's a lot of stuff going in its favor,
so right.
Speaker 2: Lazy Stecha sources just a reminder, duck Hunt is a
mid tech demo.
Speaker 3: Damn.
Speaker 1: So I'm not trying well, I don't think we need
coming duck Hunt under the bus like this. It's just
clearly Mike is wrong. That's all that's mean.
Speaker 4: Also to dug Hunt.
Speaker 2: That cuts better than we sports, and I stand by one.
It's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 1: Are you doing with the super chats?
Speaker 2: We're done for now, everybody. If you want to send more,
we will still read them before the end of the show.
Thank you so much for all the support. Uh, if
you're watching, I don't get to hit that thumbs up
button or else. Beef Him is gonna yell at all
of you. Well, one more here, One more just came
in from Nick Olavito, says I asked about vinyl recommendations
last time, and I want to share a really cool
one I found. It's called Hecko in Hi Rule and
it's Mariachi versus z own music.
Speaker 1: It's super cool. That does sound cool, That sounds awesome.
Do they do a good one of the what's the
desert people? What are they called Garudo Valley? Yeah? The
Garudo Valley theme. I bet there's a good version of
that with the Mariachi band.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, God, there was that really good version of
that in that Zelda CD that came with Skywards Sword
where they kind of slowed it down and made it
more orchestra and dramatic.
Speaker 3: It was good Christian.
Speaker 1: How do you say the name of that album in rule?
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I've pronounced my age a little bit too hard.
Speaker 1: You did say Hecko, but I think I might have
said the same thing.
Speaker 2: Made a lot of I really blew it.
Speaker 3: It happens. It's easy to happen a piece of shit.
Speaker 5: No, not at all.
Speaker 1: All right, that does it for the super chats. We
will if we get more, we'll talk about it before
the end of the show, as I promised.
Speaker 3: Uh mean, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1: Whatever. Someone you should have just stopped reading yelled English instead.
I just got to hear it. Are rely on the catchphrase.
All Right, we're gonna take another quick break. When we
come back. We're gonna talk about the Game Awards and
our expectations for that right after this. All right, we're back,
and what we're gonna do now for the topic of
the week. We're gonna we're gonna make some predictions about
the Game Awards. You know, we're not gonna go through
every single one of these, although I have most of
them written down. I think I did not copy over
e Sports Athlete of the Year. I know they can't
raige you.
Speaker 3: I have really strong opinions on.
Speaker 4: That one, you know it.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: I'm a I'm a big Faker fan. That's what we
call us, the Faker fans, which you know it sounds generic,
but there's alliteration there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Faker plays league.
Speaker 4: It's correct. Get ten point?
Speaker 3: Yes, of course I got it in one.
Speaker 1: All right. Okay, So I figure what we could do
here is we you and I can make our predictions
for each for each of these categories, and then we'll
take a break every once in a while and we'll
talk about big big games.
Speaker 3: Don't let me show up. Sorry, don't get chat. Don't
get chat.
Speaker 2: How many how many concurrency you think Marvel Rivals has
on Steam?
Speaker 3: Already on Steam? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, so like when did it come out? Did it
come out like just a couple hours ago, like a
few hours ago? Yeah, So like a big paid release
would be like eighty thousand, So I'll say one hundred
and sixty.
Speaker 3: Four hundred thousand already.
Speaker 1: Holy moly.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's just gonna take over.
Speaker 1: Yeah damn, okay, let's uh, should we work our way
up to Game of the Year or work our way
down to work away down, give the people what they want,
all right, Game of the Year, Astrobot, Bilatro, Blackmith, Wukong, Elderring,
Shadow of the Tree, Final Fantasy seven Rebirth metaphor refond Tasio.
Speaker 3: I think Astrobot's the favorite. I really do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I died, don't blame you. I'm kind of think
I'm right there with you. But we'll put Mikey there.
Speaker 3: I don't think does that many people disliked ashot so.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people who are voting, who
are like groups of people you can see, you can
see how that one becomes a popular choice that pleases
most everybody. There's bound to be people that feel very
strongly about it. There's gonna be a lot of individuals
who are gonna be hiund it. It's a pretty pretty
decent field this time in terms of like anything could
win for weird reasons, like you know, even blackmth Wukon,
which seems like the weakest one to me. That one though,
what Golden Dice or whatever. A little bit ago, so
it's like.
Speaker 1: I got I mean joystick, Yi's crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I mean, that's not all a fan voting
or whatever. Right, but like, okay, but if it could
happen there, like maybe that weirdness can happen here. You
could see it being bilacho maybe metaphor maybe fall fantasy,
like even shout Out or Tree is the one that
would would be the most surprised by. But I guess
it could happen again, and I think it'd be surprising.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it can happen just because it's From
and From just seems to win these things automatically. But
this is the weird one. This is the DLC. Although
you know, I know you guys were saying DLC maybe
shouldn't be nominated on I'm like, I'm like, I don't,
I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't want to make a rule, but I would,
I wouldn't.
Speaker 2: I guess is the thing, right, Like I don't think
there should be a rule, but I it would have
to be something crazy, something, you know, And I don't
just be quality because the quality of Showy or Tree
is amazing, but it is it's more elden Ring and.
Speaker 3: Really so yeah, it's just an expansion that's what it
should be.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I'm just like an expansions of video
game Now it's like if they put it out as
a standalone, I would just be like, yeah, this is
a video game, and so I'm just looking at it
that way. But I I think I'm with you where
let's say, ah, there's a chance I might not include
it in like even my top ten. We'll see. I
think I think just to like shoot my shot here
a little bit, I will go with Bulatro. Yeah, I
think there. I think there's a really strong chance that wins. Now,
a big part of that is what you said, like
anything could win this year. I also think that like
some of the other big competitors there, Final Fantasy seven,
Reworth in Metaphor might cannibalize each other a little bit.
They might split a little bit of the.
Speaker 3: See those two, I could see those two doing that.
Speaker 2: I don't see that have a bunch of Astrobot, which
is why I think that's the favorite on my end exactly.
Speaker 1: So it's like, I think what I'm expecting here is
a lot of people who are like, well, I really
like Shadow the eard Tree, but that doesn't need to
win again. So I'm gonna go with Blatro. And then
I think there's a lot of people who are like no,
that genuinely is the best game, and uh, I think
it's going to be. You know, it's always fun to
be the person that does something a little bit offbeat
when you're voting on these things, So I think that
that might be attractive when it comes to blotro And
you know, there's a history of of something like this winning.
I you know, like something like this, but like a
smaller game winning when it takes two to one game
of the year. So uh yeah, you know, you know,
I just learned that it takes two. We talked about
it sold twenty million copies. Apparently like half of those
are in China, where it's extremely popular. Interesting, uh huh,
It's like it's not even officially on sale there, but
uh it's like people just get it through Steam, through
you know, the gray market. And when they asked like why,
it's like, well, there are skyrocketing divorce rates in China.
Speaker 2: I have to ask, like, is do they really like
just get much out of this very western take on marriage.
But okay, maybe it's becoming more similar over there.
Speaker 1: Yep, yep. Divorce is huge in China. Yeah, incredible, it's
wearing out divorce because more popular once people are allowed to. Yeah,
it's strange. Huh uh yep, Astrobot for mikey, bilotro for me.
Uh well, we'll see, Chad. If you guys want to
throw your opinions out there, if you guys want like
a poll at some point, maybe we could do a
poll just for this and get get the answers at
the end. All right, best game direction, this is kind
of it's the same the same domina, right. Yeah. I
think if the if bolotro wins Game of the Year,
I don't necessarily think it wins best game Direction. I
think Astrobot does win.
Speaker 4: That.
Speaker 2: Actually say, I'm the same way now, I think uh wins,
especially because it's kind of.
Speaker 1: A one man thing, maybe, right, do it? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so just swap us on this one, I guess.
Speaker 1: Jeff and then Mike. All right, there we go. Best
ongoing game Destiny Too, Diablo four, Final Fantasy fourteen, Fortnite,
or Hell Divers Too. It has, isn't it, man? I
don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, since where Hell Divers do get some of
this love.
Speaker 2: It's a little weird because it's an ongoing game that
came out this year, and it feels like it feels
like it had so much heat when it came out,
and it's still doing well, but a lot of it's
kind of gave me the your potentials faded away there.
Speaker 1: I think I'll go with Hell Divers.
Speaker 4: Having mind that people wasn't being a huge fan of
the stuff they did release after like the game came out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but right, but I'm talking like part of it, right,
But I think voters will be like Hell Divers two
was that really big game earlier this year, So.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have double before might get some love because
the expansion. I think.
Speaker 2: It's wort thing's gonna be hard sell because you know,
some people didn't like the expansion this year. Destiny Too
is crazy that it's on here. People like the expansion,
I guess, but there's a lot of bad feelings there.
Speaker 4: Yes, the fucking vibes I'll ruined, but not because of
the quality of the game. Because the content they be
putting out right off there, the the expansion, it's pretty good.
Like the seasonal stuff was fun and like good stuff.
So I don't know, but the bibies are all fucked up.
Speaker 1: I think it's yep, like Mike Mike jinks the Lions,
that's right, we're not gonna talk about that, all right.
Do you have an answer for this one, Mike or Yeah?
Speaker 3: I agree with you.
Speaker 1: Okay, there we go, Jeff, Okay, Uh the best performance. Uh,
let's see Brianna.
Speaker 2: White bullshit on a single Metaphor Refintasio person in here,
but it sucks.
Speaker 3: I'm mad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to Luke Roberts Sondhil tous Saga and
then life is Strange. That would that be Max and
then Humberly Gomez who must be the Star Wars Outlaws character.
I'll go with Brianna White because she's on the giant
blumb couch, so.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go. I think she has a very good
chance of winning.
Speaker 2: I think people liked her a lot in both these games,
and you know it's it's it's that one. So oh yeah,
absolutely gonna be her.
Speaker 1: Eric, Yeah, all right, best art direction, Astrobot, Blackmiuth, Wukong,
Elden Ring, Metaphor, Refuntasio or Neva.
Speaker 2: I think Metaphor gets this one right. Those games that
such good art, do U? Why the character designs? I
think I think it gets love here.
Speaker 1: Yes, I think you're probably right, but I'm gonna go
with blackmiuth Wu kong uh, because I think there's there's
a chance that this one just might pull it off
here and this will be its one win. It either
wins just this or wins everything except for this. Because
I'm just like missing something. I didn't recognize a huge
contingent of Blackmith Wukong fans in the media best score
and music Astro bought Final Fantasy seven Rebirth metaphor Refound Tasio,
Silent Hell two or Stellar Blade.
Speaker 2: This one's rebirth for me, Uh, well, play pick. I
think it's what's gonna win. Just insanely, insanely good soundtrack there,
both the new versions of the classic songs and the
new stuff so fantastic. Solon Hill two is very good,
but it's kind of you know, it's doing its thing,
it's doing it really well. I don't say as this
music was disappointing, but I almost don't think it's as good.
Speaker 3: As what we had in Astro's playroom.
Speaker 2: Yeah, mat Fo Fatasi has a lot of good stuff,
especially the battle theme. Like overall, I don't think it's
quite as strongest the Persona soundtracks even Really.
Speaker 1: I'm with you, I think fant Fantasy seven is gonna
win this Best Audio Design, Astrobought, Call of Duty, Final
Fantasy seven, Sinua Saga, Silent Hill two. I think there's
a chance Help Bay two wins this one.
Speaker 3: See this is the one.
Speaker 2: I go Silent Hill two because I'll tell you what,
very rarely am I playing a game. I think, Wow,
what good sound design? I was thinking that a lot
in Silent Hill two. Actually just the sounds. We're all
deeply on settling and satisfying and well paced and well placed.
So yeah, I'll give sold Hill too, this one, all right.
Speaker 1: I don't care about Best Adaptation, Narrative, Final Fantasy like
a Dragon, infant wealth metaphor refund man like a dragon
not nominated for enough Hell Bay two and Silent Hill two.
Speaker 4: By the way, before we more on, you don't care,
but it's gonna win. Arcane's gonna win the.
Speaker 3: But I don't care that doesn't fall I'm gonna win.
People love Fallout. You didn't like Arcane season two, people
didn't like season two?
Speaker 4: What it's awesome?
Speaker 1: I I hear everybody A right, whatever, I don't, I don't.
We didn't want to talk about this now we are, sorry, Christian.
Speaker 3: The best Narrative. I think that one's gonna go to Metaphor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's probably right. Ah man, I wish, I wish
Infinite Wealth could win, but it's probably gonna be Metaphor.
Speaker 2: Like you're right, if nominated for much unless maybe get
something here, But this is people have very People definitely
just want to pick the one that they think had
their favorite narrative.
Speaker 3: That's not the one they want to like.
Speaker 1: Give Up is definitely the one that people, even if
they did play it, they forgot about. But it's like
and if they didn't, they didn't have time to catch
up on it because they were playing Metaphor instead. All right,
let's see here Best Commune, Best multiplayer Call of Duty,
Black Ops six, Hell Divers two, Super Mario Party, Jamboree,
Tech and eight, Warhammer forty K, Space Marine two, Black
Up six.
Speaker 3: Maybe I.
Speaker 2: Could see Black Up six's probably my favorite. I wonder
if this is the one Held Divers too also gets
some love because it had that very memorable multiplayer experience.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm with you on that, right, And.
Speaker 3: Timing is a little bit weird, for it was weird enough.
I can't remember. I don't oof. I think Hell Divers too.
Speaker 2: Actually, I still even as good as this Call of
Duty is, I think the's still a.
Speaker 3: Lot of people who don't want to voe for Call
of Duty, right. Uh.
Speaker 1: Best independent game, Animal Well, Latro lawer Line, The Laser Eyes,
Nava Ufo fifty Blatro.
Speaker 2: I mean it's the one that's nominated for Game of
the Year. It'd be well surprising I didn't pick this
one up.
Speaker 1: It's right, so best debut indie game, Blatro, although Animal
Well and her Lord's Specific Drive in the Plucky Square
are all also nominated.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like those a part of me.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, I could see Animal L maybe picking
this one up because everyone's sick of voting for Bilotto
at this point for things.
Speaker 3: In fact, what I'll say, Animal Well, Scriod.
Speaker 1: All right, there you go. Did you like Animal L
I liked it.
Speaker 2: I like to find it's funny because I think I
liked it more than you and also played much less
of it than you.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: Best VR AR game Arizona Sunshine remake. Man, they remade
that game that's weird Asgard's Raft two, that game that
got a ten from IGN. Remember Batman, Arkham, Shadow Metal Hellsinger,
VR Metro Awakening.
Speaker 2: I mean Batman came out just at the right time
as the one I hear people have talked to us
because I just it just seems like it's gonna be Batman.
Speaker 1: Yep. Content creator of the Year. Don't don't pick what
you want is your favorite? Tell me if you've heard
of a single one casseo eulo one, techno gamers, typical
gamers who sat up pekorra. No, I haven't heard of
a single one.
Speaker 4: I okay, so it always came up on my TikTok.
He's like constantly there and they're like the Spanish guy
on the b tour and that's it.
Speaker 1: The techno gamers, Uh, most anticipated. This is like silly,
why I even have this category because Grand Theft Auto
six is still out there. But Death Draining two on
the Beach? Is that really the subtitle ghost.
Speaker 5: Title?
Speaker 1: I think it is, Yes, Grand Theft Auto six, Metrod
Prime four beyond Monster Hunter Wilds.
Speaker 2: I mean my answer is but Prime four sure, Yeah,
I mean I didn't say Grand Titles six.
Speaker 3: Six.
Speaker 1: All right. We got some genre categories Best Action Adventure Game, Astrobot,
Prince of Person of the Lost Crown. That's nice to
see that nominated. Silent Hill, Two Star Wars, Outlaws, The
Legend of Zelda, Echoes of Wisdom.
Speaker 5: God.
Speaker 2: I wish Lost Crown could pick this up because it's
so good and it's insane. We haven't seen it nominated
for anything till this point. To me, it's an easy
Game of the Year contender. It's so amazing. I hope
time's gonna be kind.
Speaker 1: To that one.
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, Astrobot probably has this one pretty easily.
Speaker 1: Yep, that's what I think as well. Best role playing game,
Dragon's Dogma two, Shadow, the arg Tree, Final Fantasy if
it it well, Metaphor.
Speaker 2: God that some ways, this is like one of the
most interesting categories. Is your mind scrolling down a little
bit more?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, yeah, this one is really two Bad Persona
three didn't make a er thousand year door. I guess remakes.
You know, it's such a crowd of year it's hard
for remakes.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: I know Fox Eye's kind of a remake, but yeah,
not really a metaphour. I think Metaphor does does take
this one. I think it was like the newest one
and it was probably the even the best review of them.
A Rebirth actually might have been there too, but people
are so high on metaphor and some people had just
played it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you know, if it was is just
like the traditional thing, Shadow the ar Tree would probably
win because the most people probably played that and it
was so highly reviewed. But because it is d LC,
I think that's going to make it kind of knock
it out here, and then I think that leaves it
to metaphors kind of.
Speaker 2: I kind of hate the idea that like Shadow the
Trees in the RPG category.
Speaker 1: It's a character sheet, right, Like that's.
Speaker 3: Its stats. Yeah, the game best game with stats.
Speaker 4: Than an action to me, because you can, like you
get your way out of out of the fight, you
know what I mean. You can't have numbers being higher
and off the U actions.
Speaker 2: Kind Of my experience of Souls game is that's the
least for what I've been doing. The numbers never matter
as much as you think they will. A lot of
that time, A lot of time it really is actually
learning that those openings and getting good. But maybe that's
you know, it's definitely it's definitely an action RPG for sure.
It's just what I if you put it gun in
my head and say it's an action, what is action
RPG more of I would say action, right.
Speaker 1: And there's an action adventure category, you know that's the
work probably the other one it might make sense in
all right, let's see here. I'm sure. I'm sure he
got votes for elden Ring, Shadow of the r Tree
for Action Adventure. I wonder how he like actually ends
up deciding which of these categories to put it in
where it gets the most votes. Maybe, I don't know.
Best fighting game, Dragon Ball, Sparking zero, Grand Blue, Fantasy
versus Rising, Marvel versus Capcom, Fighting Collection, Arcade Classics Multi
versus techn eight.
Speaker 2: It's I think it's forty easily Teken eight. Maybe Sparking
zero has a chance. I love that Fighting collection is
on here. Collestions normally don't make it, but it was
a very good collection.
Speaker 4: Yeah it should be NBC.
Speaker 2: Teck and eight was great. Techn eight deserve some weet.
I know that post people have soured a little bit.
They haven'ten super happy to support for it, but uh,
it's very very good.
Speaker 1: At launch, Best action game blackmuth Wukong called Duty Black
Ops six, Helldivers two, Stellar Blade, Space Marine two.
Speaker 4: This was kind of tough at this A little bit
down please.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sorry about that.
Speaker 2: You're not forgiving, like like maybe called he does get
a little bit of love here. Actually, uh, it's works
that you know. Blackmouth Wuklung is the one that's also
not forgiving the year, and it's have a hard time
just really seeing it winning.
Speaker 3: I don't know why I.
Speaker 1: Say it's gonna win this just just because it's nominated.
But yes, you're gonna say called Duty, call of Duty.
I want to see that. Okay, the Nintendo category that
Nintendo is probably not gonna win this year. Best Family Game, Astrobot,
Princess Pete, Showtime, Super Mario Party, Jamboree, The Legend of Zelda,
Echoes of Wisdom, a Plucky Squire.
Speaker 2: You weren't hearing we talked about this, but uh, like
this is Nintendo's weakest showing in the Game Awards in years,
if not ever, pretty easily nothing nominated for Game of
the Year for the first time in a long time,
even the Family Game, which we joke is the Nintendo category. Yeah,
they had the most nominees here, but I'm not gonna
win at Astrobot probably is, yep, maybe Mario Party.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go with Astrobat is that what you're
going with Astrobot? Yeah, okay, Best SIM slash strategy game,
Age of Mythology Retold, frost Punk two, Kninsugami, Path of
the Goddess, manor Lords, Unicorn Overlord.
Speaker 3: It seems like a pretty open field to me.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 3: I think there was like a big breakout hit.
Speaker 1: I think I am gonna roll my dice with Man
That's tough. I kind of want to see Unicorn Overlord,
but I'm gonna go frost Punk two.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I was between those two and frost Punk, but
I feel kind of systems frost Punk.
Speaker 3: The same.
Speaker 1: I like.
Speaker 2: I played a bit of frost Bunk two. Actually I
enjoyed it. I played all of the Corn Unicorn Overlord
and liked it, but kind of forgot about it quick.
But maybe I will go of Unicorn on this one.
Speaker 4: Okay, got me the any of you played that game?
Speaker 3: I played it at various trade shows and I kind of,
you know, had my fill of it there.
Speaker 1: I played it on the steam deck for quite a
bit and I thought it was pretty good. I didn't
fall in love with it like a lot of people, though.
That's on Best sports slash Racing Game f one twenty
four EA Sports FC twenty five NB A Top Spin WWE.
I think WWE could win.
Speaker 3: Yeah you scroll down. Yeah, and if I have to
tell you again, I'm going to Yeah, you're gonna quit
the show. I know, Yeah, I got you. Did everybody
really like that new college football game? Why isn't that
on here?
Speaker 1: Yeah? That is weird. Uh, it's very bizarre. I have
no idea why it's not nominated. Honestly, part of it
feels like that's got to be an oversight, like that's
so strange, like what happened?
Speaker 3: And I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go with WWE.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the w I I like the w W game.
It hasn't played one in a while, in this one
first one like five years, and it was really fun.
I don't know why, Yes, yes, for FC twenty five
is in this list.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like again, it's always like the most the game,
so that the most people play, right at some point,
that's going to be a huge factor in a show
like this that has a massive voter voting block international voting.
Speaker 3: This is that college football game?
Speaker 1: Then?
Speaker 3: Apparently not?
Speaker 1: I guess. Yeah, it's very strange, all right, Best Esports
game is the last thing I have here, Count Strike two,
Do to two, League of Legends, Mobile Legends, Bang Bang.
Speaker 3: And Valeries Mobile Legends, Ban Baby All Day Bang Gang.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're part of the big bang game where that's
why they call us the mobile Legends.
Speaker 4: How do you vote this? You know? Do you play
every like? It's so weird? This is is like I've
never heard of this game.
Speaker 1: That's crazy, never heard of it in my life. No, say,
I'm voting for it. It's got to win, all right. Okay,
so we I've actually kept track here. Yeah, we can
come better and look at see who was who was right,
who did better? And uh, you know, count we had
a lot of what we voted together on. But we'll
see how this goes. We'll have the answers, not next
week because we're gonna be in LA, but the episode
after that we'll talk about it. Okay, let's see here. Okay,
so those are the awards. What are you think it's
gonna ge announced there? Mike, you have any ideas about
like some surprises, things that might might come out of nowhere?
How much Hideo codeim I do we get?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I bet we'll see you know, Yeah, we'll see, Hideo,
it's time for another obnoxiously long trailer for destraining to
beach vacation, whatever it's called. And a character is gonna
show up with like a drum that comes out of
his ass, and everybody's gonna cheer.
Speaker 1: Helly you love it, especially me?
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially you.
Speaker 2: I is it time for Resident Evil nine, right, like
we should see that it's possible.
Speaker 1: Residevil nine is like a possibility, like that's I think
that's a pretty good guess, mic, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Because we had Reside Beford last year, we didn't have
one this year. There's probably gonna be one next year.
They should announce that.
Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, there will be one next year, so uh
it might be late next year. So maybe it doesn't
happen here, but it could, so we'll see. And then
I mean I really do think but yeah, I think
Metroid Prime too.
Speaker 2: I think that that's the one like smallest thing that
Nintendo actually does bring here, and we maybe finally get
that announced, because I mean, I'll think Nintendo is gonna
do a direct or an even like small thing. Maybe
they just announced that in a tweet, And to me,
it's like, look, if your options are just announcing in
a tweet or do a trailer at the Gable Awards,
And I bet thetend is one of the people that
Kiley wouldn't make pay for that.
Speaker 1: Why not announce that at the Game Awards? Right, Yep,
totally hollow night Silk song. I was afraid.
Speaker 3: Look as good a chance as it hatten in a
long time? Right, sure?
Speaker 1: Since last month? Yeah, Like, look, if you put a
gun in my head, I'll say yes because it's always
weird to me. Right, It's gotta show up eventually.
Speaker 4: This episode, this is.
Speaker 1: One I was in that Xbox show where they said
everything would be out within the next twelve months, and
that was, uh, like most months ago, not this past summer.
The summer before that. I talked to Phil Spencer and
at that point it had been a year. So we're
talking two and a half years since that showing at Xbox,
So a year and a half after they said it
would be out, and you know, one way or the other, Yeah,
twenty twenty two, yes, exactly, So that Yeah, every time
we have one of these shows and it doesn't show
up somewhere, it's weird. It definitely could be here. It
also very easily could not you think Microsoft has anything
big in the show Perfect Dark or anything like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird because like they're definitely gonna just be
promoting Indiana Jones.
Speaker 1: Still.
Speaker 2: It'll be a good amount commercials for that, and they'll
they'll probably be promoting a vowed still right, Like last year,
one of the big things they did was uh for
Senua Saga, right, they had that weird concert thing. So
it's very much kind of just about promoting games. We
know about it, you know, we know about Fable, we
know about Perfect Dark. They could and that part of
me wouldn't be shocked if we didn't get much on those.
Speaker 1: Does Vin Diesel show back up to re announce Arc two.
Speaker 2: No, he's done enough at the Game Awards, there's that.
He was the one last thing, that one you're at
that fast and the furious game that's so funny, salute
Salute me familiar.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, No. What about kin Levin's game Judas?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, why not? I bet it will, and I
don't think I'll be particularly excited about it. I don't
know why I love BioShock, like BioShock when it was
one of my favorite games.
Speaker 3: Yet I see this thing and I am so unmoved
by it.
Speaker 1: And then what about Sony? Does Sony have anything at
this show?
Speaker 2: It's interesting because you know, they announced gos to Yo
Tai and there's not much else we really know.
Speaker 3: Let's go. I'm trying to think that Sony usually do
much at the Game Awards.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I could see them doing something like
a collection of older game games or something like that.
Speaker 3: Maybe, yeah, maybe something nostalgic.
Speaker 1: Maybe this is like the original God of War trilogy
or something like, or what maybe more than just the trilogy,
but yeah, like put God God of War in a
collection of games.
Speaker 2: Put that out if, like, if they were ready to
announce the new Naughty Dog thing like, and you know,
the whole point of these Naughty Dog games is basically
to win stuff like the Game Awards, this would not
be a bad place to debut that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good point. I mean, even like Sony, Santa Monica
could have their next game ready to show off and
that's similar. So yep, we'll see, uh yeah, any any
final guesses, any like really far out there things.
Speaker 2: Mega many Yeah no, it's Ridge Racer Crimson Skies, all right,
Uh yep. I'm looking forward to the show. You know,
I again, I only care so much about the awards.
We'll do our own awar show, so like, that's why
I have a place to think about that stuff for real.
But it's fun to speculate about what could win. I
had a good time doing that. And then for all
these predictions, we'll see how it goes down. We're getting
some super chats in maybe some people have some predictions
of their own. We'll take one more quick break, we'll
come back talk about what we've been playing. You know,
I've been playing Indie, so I got nothing more there,
and then we'll hit those super chats and we'll get
out of here.
Speaker 1: Right after this. We're back, Mike, what have you been playing?
Been playing? I did play one round of Marvel Rivals
before we started this. Oh really, okay, you downloaded and everything.
I guess I still have my download from the bait.
I wonder if that's updated.
Speaker 2: I don't think that works. I think it's not like
insanely big. It's like thirty something gigabytes, So okay, it
didn't take long at all. There are so many characters
in that kind of why I'm kind of shocked that
you can actually just launch one of these games with
that many characters. Right away, I'm almost like, why would
you launch that many characters? It's kind of wild and
I'm not sure if you even like, I don't think
you have to pay for them. I think they're just
all there.
Speaker 1: I think it's all there. Yeah, nice and like the
lead out there like, uh, they're cheasing five more Marvel
Rivals characters. What the full characters are gonna be in
these things?
Speaker 4: So, yeah, you have to this free to play. You
have to have like a bunch of characters, so like
you cast a ye net of people to to grab.
So is gonna fall in love with a character and
they're gonna buy all these teams for the character.
Speaker 1: You know, people ownership and it's easier to feel an
ownership if you can have something does feel a little unique.
Speaker 2: It falls to the because you know Overwatch you kind
of has this trap right now where like guess what
characters get a lot of skins. It's just the ones
you sell. So it's like a ton for uh Koko
or whoever that girl is, like lots of Diva one
still frac.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, yeah, people that that aren't that don't like ranking
for these other ones, don't actually get what they want,
and that's slowly poisons things. But that's free to play games.
That's how it goes, you know it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Legal Blessing has done that thing since forever. That's
the they always they ask him what the character is
so strong when he comes and they're like, well, we
want people to like the character right away so they
can buy the stuff for the character.
Speaker 1: They'll like, yeah, business legal legends right.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's cool because you know, I was like, hey,
it was my favorite Marvel character. It's Captain America. There
he is, and just able to play him right away.
He's a tank, which makes sense.
Speaker 3: I was having fun. I like the beta. I am
excited to enjoy the data over a lot.
Speaker 2: It's a little awkward just because I like playing Call
of Duty for the first time ever in a lot
of time. But this is a pretty different flavor than
Call of Duty at least, but still at the same time,
it's all time, right, Like what live service game I'm
going to play?
Speaker 1: Yep, I don't know. I'm still enjoying Call of Duty
quite a bit. We played for a while the other
night and that's a good time. Still got twenty four
to seven. Still not sick of that.
Speaker 3: That's I love stake Out twenty seven. That's good.
Speaker 1: It's fun because you can really go from one round
I just completely playing the complete garbage the next round.
Just oh, every time I walk into a room, I'm
killing person with this shotgun and it feels awesome.
Speaker 4: So I always feel well, everybody complains some about that
is what's making is what makes the game fun for you.
Speaker 1: The best thing recently was there's still people who want
to complain about skill based matchmaking, but that like one
I think it was the Call of Duty team that
was like, yo, we tested it without skill based matchmaking,
and you all stopped playing because you hated it. Third
new thing is well, that's not real. That was a
bias thing because people are just used to skill based matchmaking,
so of course they'll stop. It's like, what are you
talking about? That's incredible, You're so deluded. But yep, they're
never gonna stop complaining about that. So h But anything
else you've been playing, Mike, I will probably spend more
time with Marvel rivals when we like get back from
La and stuff.
Speaker 3: I'm true big things for Dre Dragon Quest three. You've
been playing, uh quite a bit of that.
Speaker 2: I had a very long grinding sectionon yesterday because I
wanted to kind of max out my one job so
I can turn my thief Penny into a monster wrangler,
which is the one new job they added to the game,
and get a lot of new abilities. And I really
enjoyed doing that, right, I'm a sicko. I liked is
walking my party around in circles in the one ideal
spot for it, grinding monsters while I watch a stupid
YouTube video all cozy in bed while it's snowing outside.
Speaker 3: I loved that. That, folks good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm in a pretty good place now where I'm
gonna progress for a while, and I'm like, you know,
I'm like past halfway. I'm pretty deep into it. Actually, Yeah,
so maybe even I might even beat it before it's
time for Game of the Year.
Speaker 1: So might.
Speaker 3: It might be calculated into uh, into that list, so
we'll see.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Are there any other clean up games for you for
Game of the Year?
Speaker 2: No, nothing else is gonna really happen. There's stuff I
feel bad get infinite WI if I feel bad and
get to you, I feel bad. It didn't play in
case The Rise of the Golden Idol thousand. Yeah, but
I don't play games playing three. Okay, that's just a
good one. I do think I'm bringing, you know, I don't.
I brought like the switch and like the PC thing
on these trips before, and I sometimes use neither or
just one. But that's not like I think I'm just
bringing the rog Like everything I'm really playing is on there.
There's nothing I'm actually that worried about my switching. Like
I could finish Zoda and I would like to, but
I don't think that's I don't feel bad about no
fishing that. I don't think that's like going to make
it into my top ten.
Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, I'm like, if it makes might be very
much on the edge of the top ten. I like it,
but just not a top ten game, all right, Mike.
Do we get any more super chats?
Speaker 2: Yes we did, Jeff, we got a few more here
from for Hub with Gods. He said, Hey, guys anonymous,
because I'm very cool, very exclusive and incredibly famous. But
I'll give you a hint. Mariah Carey, I'm reaching my
mid thirties. Actually, excuse you so rude. Never ask over
her age any tips. Happy meat days. If God's then
sent the same exact super chat again, which might be
a mistake, but thank you.
Speaker 3: I really appreciate it. Sorry that you got double church
for that. Any tips for your pies, Jeff, that's kind
of in the rearview, mirar for you, What did you
think about your thirties? I?
Speaker 1: Yeah, God, my thirties are in the past, aren't they.
That feels weird. It was a time where it's like, oh, okay,
this is when things are really I'm figuring things out now.
The twenties there's just so easy to get lost in
your twenties and feel like there's no road in front
of you, and there isn't. But in the thirties you
start just building your own and you know things can
come together. So I would just if you feel like
you are heading in the right direction, you probably are.
Just keep trusting in yourself, keep working hard. Things guarantee,
but it'll be better than nothing personally speaking.
Speaker 2: Personally speaking, everything really came together in my mid thirties,
so hopefully the same happens for you.
Speaker 3: Mariah Carey.
Speaker 1: I think things are gonna look up for you.
Speaker 4: I's just how to thought. I'm like, Oh, mid thirties,
that's so far away. I'm about to turn thirty four
in like.
Speaker 2: A week, and oh, shot, yeah, you'll turn thirty five.
You'll turn thirty five when I turned forty.
Speaker 3: That's fine. F screaming mass is so real quick.
Speaker 1: Ea.
Speaker 2: College football probably got snout because many of the outlets
are from international nations who don't watch the point US
college football.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 2: I do wonder just how many international uh like voting
things are there, because like, you know, that's gonna be
a big deal for things like Blackmouth Wu Kong where
you know, here people don't really care, but in China
it's like the biggest game yep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, I think it is global. So
it's like there won't be any one representation from China,
but there should be quite a few voters from China.
So yeah, it's really makes it really hard to predict
this stuff. But I suppose it's like people from Australia
going like, how come the Aussie rules football game didn't
get nominated? That was very very popular and good here,
and it's like, okay, yeah, I suppose if it's a
global enough audience, even a really good American football game
is going to struggle a little bit against some of
these things like you know WWE, even which is global.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody loves WB Chris Priz back and says they
didn't want to pay me to give my voice in
this Marvel Rebels game. Hashtag boycott Marvel Rebels. You heard
you heard them, everybody. Oh buddy, I'm so sorry to
hear that, Chris Pratt. We will always defend your honor,
so of course I will be playing this game. Christ
wait to hear about who's doing the voice of Mario
in these latest Mario games.
Speaker 3: All right, that does it for the super chats, Yes,
it does. Thank you.
Speaker 2: Everybody really appreciate that, really appreciate all the thumbs up.
Thank you so much, gosh, Chefork. We're gonna be off
of this these shows for a bout a week here.
We've got a lot of travel, a lot of game
awards stuff. We're gonna be busy, you more than me.
I'm willing to say, you're gonna be even more busy.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we got a lot going on, but it
will be fun. If you want to watch this stuff
over on Giant Bomb just real quick. Wednesday, December eleventh,
five pm Pacific time, eight pm Eastern GB at night
we're going all night. Come hang out with us. It'll
be fun. Then the next day is the Game Awards,
doing a pre show Game spot is however, and we're
help and out, so I'll be on that a little
bit and then so excuse me, tune in for that
as well. And then we are planning to record our
Game of the Year stuff for Giant Bomb while we're
there in LA on Friday and Saturday, so we'll get
that stuff out to you time and a time. We
met man Or later this month, so there'll be a
lot of stuff happening, just not with game mess. But
when we get back, we'll hit the ground running, keep
things going. We'll come up with our own plans for
game year stuff. After we'll hit the ground running, and
we won't stop running.
Speaker 4: To Tuesday seventeen people want, Yeah, So if people want
the date, yeah, Tuesday seventeen, we shall be back.
Speaker 2: Yep, we'll be back at gears keep coming, they don't
stop coming. With the rules and it hit the ground running,
then it makes sense not to live for fun. Your
brain gets smart, but your head gets dumb. So I
much to do, so much to see, So what's wrong
with take you in the backstreets there is.
Speaker 1: We have everybody, yep, and we're gonna get We're gonna
get that. Uh d c d mc A. So might
as well just end the show. Uh I hit the music, right,
that's usually what I do. Oh it's broken.
Speaker 3: Yeah right right, that's not working.
Speaker 1: Yeah I forgot, but actually, hang, I think it might
have started working in the middle of it. Let me
see if it's actually gonna take here. Do you want
me to do it?
Speaker 3: Oh, it is working, it's working.
Speaker 4: You do.
Speaker 1: Oh this is the I thought it was. That's the
earlier show.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we could do that one too, just match so
extra watching everybody.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 4: Beautiful like a name joe.
Speaker 1: Ah, just bad podcasts.
Speaker 3: That was pretty funny earlier.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you were doing you were doing all right?
Speaker 3: Tape it off a bit the end that she was
cool and people didn't like it when I said that
out in Rings on an RPG, which I thought what
I said, it's not what I said, but they did.
They took it that way right.
Speaker 1: And people are, oh, it definitely is an RPG. You know, hey,
listen those games. For a long time it was like,
these are different kinds of RPGs, and people were very
serious about that. I always remember hearing that when people
were talking about demon souls and stuff.
Speaker 3: So it's at RPG for sure.
Speaker 1: For sure. Yeah, actually, all right, everybody, we're getting out
of here. We're gonna, I'm just gonna. We're not gonna
let the music play all the way out because I
pressed the button way too late. Catch you next time.
I have a good one.
Speaker 5: Take this.
Speaker 1: All right, we're out.
Speaker 4: I'm still recording. Way say something for the recording.
Speaker 1: Uh fuck you, Christian break room.
Speaker 3: All right, all right, I'm good, you're getting Let me
just yeah.
Speaker 1: Let me just do this. Let me fix this thing
in obs Okay, yep, I'm good.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 4: I should realize that bomb Star Star that wasn't me.
I didn't like the game. I didn't play it.
Speaker 3: Liked not Phone Stars, right, Phone Stars wasn't you.
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know why.
Speaker 2: I'm ready to go because this is my last night
touch a pepper. Because I didn't go grocery shopping because
the Audie just opened and it's too popular and it's
snowing and I didn't want to leave the house. I'm
rationing this for the rest of the evening.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I guess mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Thank you for saying so.
Speaker 4: No, I'll see you. I recognize your struggle. Brother. All right,
you had to set up the topic. That's total. I
forgot we were making a podcast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard.
Speaker 1: To you.
Speaker 4: That remains and remains. I don't I don't know the
entire face, but but I know that I got it late,
the joke that the one thousand times choke late. Sorry,
there is no scene worth being sinuated for. I know
that one. Really good phrases I like to repeat all
the time ever since I played that game. I should
keep repeating those phrases all the time. Red to blue.
Speaker 3: You're getting a lot of snow right now, Jeff were.
Speaker 1: Now Grace, it's probably still coming down.
Speaker 4: We should watch one. I agree somehow can we can
we make that happen? Can we get no?
Speaker 3: Thanks for asking?
Speaker 4: I would like to talk with the Rock And she
was like, how a pit tug with him is? Like,
he's gonna be in the rock.
Speaker 3: You're gonna have a lot in common. Why not do
you like tequila?
Speaker 4: I do like tequila a little bit. I like tequila
the goodness Anna ry good. I like mes Cali even
more like Miss Call. I think I had, but I
don't remember what it tasted by that time.
Speaker 3: It's just smoky tequila. Basically, it's very tasty. I like
smoky things. You make something smoky, and I was gonna
think it's better. Every think she'd have more smoking, which
is bags. I think, Oh that like smoke particles is
a carcinogen. Oh dominic. I love Pete Scotch. I want
my Scotch to taste like a tire fire. I don't
like cigarettes. Cigarette.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're on forty. Yeah, you need to pick up
smoking when you're forty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're four now, oh yeah, block of one
sixteen it's good the hard bags or the frouds. I've
got a poor Charlotte ten right now that I've been
enjoying quite a lot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's crazy, isn't a chef? When I heard that,
I lost my ship. It was like, that is insane?
What picking up? What is picking up smoking up forty?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: Oh sure, yeah that is because I did it when
I was thirteen. That makes sense.
Speaker 1: But you have forty like you missed it. You don't
have to do it. I had.
Speaker 2: I've had a handful of cigarettes just being on at bars,
and like every time I regret it because I have
that ash straight taste in my mouth for a whole
day afterwards.
Speaker 1: Yeah you did you you?
Speaker 4: Yes, you did well. My son smogan is probably the
thing that I regread the most.
Speaker 3: Doors. Can I say more about Paul Records selling his
damn house? No, I will say that. I don't.
Speaker 2: I think it was weird that people on Reddit who's
tried to like diagnose Paul Record with a disease because
of it or somehow insinuate Dan was a bad son
because it happened.
Speaker 1: White is Dan? Not like the Reddit?
Speaker 3: It's a mystery.
Speaker 1: Let's same people were being crazy off. All right, let's see.
Speaker 3: The guys you're over there. Just just laugh at the
story's telling like it once.
Speaker 1: You don't worry. It's not your problem. Don't worry about us,
Just laugh and move on.
Speaker 3: Look, Paul will be fine somehow.
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't understand either, but he will be You could.
Speaker 4: Have into a new house and mansion.
Speaker 1: I believe.
Speaker 3: He's gonna outlive all of us, right, still smoking twenty
backs a day?
Speaker 1: Uh huh uh Okay, I think I am good to go.
Speaker 4: Yes again, sounds good, Terry. We got through the top
through the thread people time.
Speaker 1: Yes, Sorry, Yeah, sometimes when we try, like a different
sort of a game or a different thing, we're not
sure how that stuff's going to fit in, and sometimes
it just doesn't work out. But we appreciate everyone's I.
Speaker 3: Could read some of them.
Speaker 2: Gonna Lowel says, Jeff will give as celebrity to which
time to ramble on about being something we don't care about.
Jim Jim says, fuck it, soilk song shadow dropped. Tommy
Penthl says eight second speeches for the award winners. Resident
Evil Crosa says another muster or wild trail showing off
more monsters in the frozen location. Both pointed they drop
Beta session number two. Eves This says the Teto shows
up with a Zelda trailer for the movie Leah the Worst.
Bowman says Kojima, that's it, that's the prediction. Adam j
C says, a muppet is interviewed, and Willow Davis says
an announcing Skyrim mobile for phones.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you community.
Speaker 1: You guys are all right, okay, I am ready to
get back in the show. Are you boys good?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 3: Let's go area read for this. I gotta clear my nose,
all right.
Speaker 1: The way.
Speaker 3: We're all right, I'm good, all right.
Speaker 1: Here we go.