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Speaker 1: What is going on? Clippers fans? Welcome to season four,

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episode eight of Clips and Dip. I am Chuck Buckler,

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joined by Adam Osland and a wonderful new background from

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Eric Boie. Thank you so much. Eric. If you can't

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see the full thing, we'll share it out. Everyone can

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use it for whatever they want. William Updyke is at

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the theater. He is getting cultured after watching the Clippers

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game last night. I don't blame him. We are Clips

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and Dip. Thank you for hanging out. If you want

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to watch us, you can find us at YouTube dot

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com slash at Clippers podcast. Today we're gonna be talking

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the three and four start, as well as previewing the

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incredibly shorthanded Clippers against the kind of shorthanded Suns they're

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getting greenback. Dylan Brooks will be out. We'll get to

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all that. Adam, how are you doing, my friend?

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Speaker 2: I'm okay, a little bit frustrated with this little start

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by the Clippers once again this season, but these are

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the cards that we've been dealt and they got to

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make the most of it and somehow find a way

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to win the next two games against Phoenix.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they do have kind of it's not a back

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to back, but it's away and a home against the

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Suns or the day in between. The Clippers sit at

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three at four, they remain banged up. Kawhi has an

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ankle injury. He is out for the game against the

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Suns on the sixth. Not ideal. I thought Beal looked

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good against the Thunder or not against the Thunder his

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game on Monday, I thought the activity was nice. But

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now we have Kawhi out, which is not ideal.

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Speaker 2: No Kawhi and Beale missing last game, and this Clippers

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team without James Harden as well tomorrow for personal reasons.

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So I tweeted this out a little bit earlier. But

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we're about to see what Chris Paul has left. And

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I know he's been struggling so far this season, but

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that's been strange to me because he was moving so

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well in the preseason. It makes me want to believe

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that he's just processing the speed of the game that

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everybody's playing at right now in the regular season, and

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guys are moving really fast out there, and.

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Speaker 1: Well they'll be so fat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, the fastest pace since like the seventies, everybody's

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playing at and hopefully physically. He still has enough left

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to help this team. But he and Bogie are going

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to be big for the game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah we will. We will need them for sure. Turnovers

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are destroying no real transition for this uh. Turns are

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destroying anything that this Clippers team can build right now.

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I think this is from Justin Russo. Last night against

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the Thunder was the third time in seven games if

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the Clippers have allowed thirty plus points off turnovers, the

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rest of the NBA has done that a combined five times.

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Speaker 2: Is not ideal, especially considering all the offseason talk and

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the T shirts and get the f back. But coach

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Lou kind of point out that, you know, postgame, we

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just can't turn it over because we're too old to

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be able to get back and stop some of these

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transition points. And they have not been sound with the basketball,

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and that's really disappointing so far, considering last season when

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they started off the year slow and they were turning

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the basketball over, well, they had to run everything through

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James Harden, right, but when Kawhi came back, the turnovers

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were cut down to like thirteen or less. And Kawhi

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has been there for six of the seven games and

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they're still having them right now. What I worry about

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Speaker 1: It too, and the nature of them, you know, live

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ball turnovers those are one thing. You know, sometimes it's

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been some ill advised passes by whoever has the ball,

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and then but we're they're turning the ball over on

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inbounds plays, like we're like, there's some things like when

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when ty I know people have Tyler's in the hot

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seat after seven games and I know people kind of

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laughed when he was like, we just need to pass

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it to the open guy. I think when it comes

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to inbounds plays, I'm with TYLERO on this one, Like,

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it's not there's no amount of coaching to tell whoever's

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inbounding the ball, hey, don't throw it, you know what

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Speaker 2: Lot in I very much do not put turnovers on

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the coaching staff. I've been screaming about this the last

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week or so. It's like, guys, they don't come out

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with a game plan to turn the basketball over on

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the players.

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Speaker 1: Hand with the pam cooking spray before we get out there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and now everyone's back to Zubas can't hold onto

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the ball. I I do think there's something to the

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teams playing so fast this season, and for an older

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team like this, it could be jarring and everybody's picking

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them up. And we saw it. It really started that

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fourth quarter last season of that game against the Golden

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State Warriors, where they picked them up full court, they

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got into them, they pressed them, and they had twelve

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turnovers in that fourth quarter. And other team's picked up

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on that. And now with everyone doing that more anyways,

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game to game, well, it's more of a focal point

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when you're taking on a team that really struggles in

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that area. With the Clippers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's I mean, other than just turnovers being

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advantageous in general, if you're the other team in the NBA,

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like you said, once the ball is turned over, that's

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a transition opportunity, and the Clippers constantly find themselves on

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the wrong end of that through various reasons. Age. You know,

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it's just like we knew. It's not a surprise if

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you kind of followed this team in the offseason. A

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lot of people are like, well, transition defense is probably

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gonna be kind of an issue based on their age.

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It's just so much harder when they make it more

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difficult on themselves with not focusing or whatever other word

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we can use for some of these turnovers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it could be early season chemistry issues, just

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getting up to speed and trying to mesh with whatever

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guys are available each night. Right now. There's a lot

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of different variables you can look at, but bottom line

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is they have to clean it up to some degree.

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We're talking thirteen or less that that should be the number.

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against Okay s And it's no surprise that they got

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up by thirteen. Okay, maybe it was a little bit

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of a surprise, no surprise. It was their best quarter

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when they didn't turn the ball over at all, and

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then had eight turnovers in the second quarter and we're up.

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I wanted the half. I think I had five or

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six more in the third, and then the game got

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away from them pretty quickly with a seventeen zero run

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Speaker 1: See. Yeah, they finished with eighteen or nineteen that game.

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team because it is such a frustrating problem too from

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a fan perspective, because you're like, why are you doing

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that obvious? You know what I mean, Like, it's like

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all you can say is they just have to pay

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more attention and fix it. Like there's no drills at

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this point to be like throw it like this, you know,

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Speaker 2: Part of it is age, and part of it is

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the way the game's being played. Teams are pressuring more

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the ball pressure, They're not giving you much airspace. They

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are trying to get more possessions out there. So it

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is something that the league is leaning into that is

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in particularly weakness for this Clippers team, or in particular

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a real weakness for this Clippers team that everybody's trying

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to get better at, not just to screw the Clippers,

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but it just so happens. That's it's just the Clippers

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struggled with I don't know, asked Pablo.

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Speaker 1: I feel I'm not asking. I'm not coming within one

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hundred feet of Bablo. It is funny, too, kind of

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to your point, Remember how much they'd struggle against the

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and possession and possession and possession and it was like, okay, great,

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like we're seeing what this is going to become and

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it's out. You know, the Grizzlies are trying to do

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it to some extent with varying degrees of success over

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there with their personnel. But yeah, I love that point

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of like this is what the league is kind of

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harshly transitioning.

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Speaker 2: Towards more of it's directly aimed at the Clippers weaknesses.

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It's like bringing in the second apron and hurting them

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by taking away there's no but it's just it's unfortunate

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that it's trending in a direction that definitely does not

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help the Clippers due to their age and the age

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specifically of their ball handlers and point guards out there,

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They have to adjust themselves and just be better. And

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the hope is that you've had some real hard lessons

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and teams that are some of the best at turning

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you over already, and maybe that will make them better

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as they go along here because they've been put through

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some real drills here when it comes to happen to

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figure out ways to hold on to the basketball and

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Speaker 1: What I'm hearing is the Clippers need to not only

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eliminate the aprons and the salary cap, we also need

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to eliminate the shot clock. We need to be like

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those six states that don't use the shot clock in

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high school basketball anymore, or something like that, and we'll

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be fine. Let's talk starters a little bit. I was

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looking at some lineups and a glaring issue kind of

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tying together the turnovers and transition defense. Harden Beale, Kawhi,

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Derek Jones and Zoo had played sixty three minutes together,

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the most of any lineup so far this season as

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of when I look this up earlier today. They're shooting

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fifty eight percent from the floor forty four percent from three. However,

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three to two assist, a turnover ratio one hundred and

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twenty one, offensive rating, one hundred and thirty two defensive

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rating for the starting five right now, which is not good.

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Speaker 2: Offensive ratings good, oh one of the offensive rating, well,

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I mean there are like the plus here. The thing

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they're chasing is, okay, how do we figure out to

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get this group to start games faster? Because Coach Lou

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brought this up, I think before the heat game, actually

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saying that within the first seven minutes, you know, the

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worst defense in the league, and then after that they're

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one of the best the rest of the ball game.

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we saw it against the Miami Heat. Down twelve two,

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he stuck with the starting lineup. One of the questions

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close he was to making a change to the starting

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lineup after the first time out when they were down

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twelve to two, But he stuck with it and they

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went on a sixteen to three run when they came

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back in. So they they just look like they're not

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ready to play to start games. And I don't know

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if that is an age thing, a bad habit thing

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that goes back years, because there's a lot of different factors.

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Like they were ready last year, right, they were definitely

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better they had I think their net rating in first

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quarters was thirteen. Last year they were thirteenth, So they

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weren't amazing, but they were much better than this And defensively,

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I think they were like eighth on that and to

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start to start games. Yeah, And I was looking through

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some of the defensive rating stuff I think late last

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Speaker 1: Never a good idea to be looking at defensive rating

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stuff late at night.

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Speaker 2: Well in particular the quarters, and you look at first

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quarter and I think they're bottom three in defensive rating.

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They're twenty six there. But it's not like it gets

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that much better, drastically better. Second quarters. They're let's see here,

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this is coming in after last night twenty second. So

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it's not like they go from you know, a bottom

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five defensive rating in the first quarter to being a

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top five defensive rating in the second or the third quarter.

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were better, and let's see what they are now, sixteenth

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their best and is their best defensive rating the fourth quarter.

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the season. The big biggest concern was Bradley Beal being

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on a minutes restriction and being banged up to start

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the year to where he plays the first two games

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but then gets hurt in a different way with the

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lower back injury. Right, and we'll see if he's still

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on a minutes restriction or how long have a minutes

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restriction tomorrow because they're gonna need him more than usual

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against his former team in Phoenix without Kawhi, without James Harden.

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Is he still on a twenty minutes restriction after not

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playing the back to back now playing against Okay, see,

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I don't know, but it's just it's another season where

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it's a team that is limping out of the gates

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to start where they don't have everybody fully healthy, to

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where you can test out different lineups and really get

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a decent sample size and understanding of what you have

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to work with. Tuca her shadow got me this time, because.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you want to see Adams Cats, uh, you

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can watch this at YouTube. I love that it's on

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your desk. That's awesome. YouTube dot Com, Shacklipper's podcast Watch

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Adams Cats.

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Speaker 2: Maybe coach Lou said last night, you know, Joey Lynn

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asked him, I think the second question post game was

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about the progress you're making when it comes to evaluating lineups. Yeah,

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and he basically said, like, we haven't really gotten there

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because Bradley Beal's on a mini restriction and now Kauhai

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is out a game. So now it kicks the can

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down the road. It sets them back from being able

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to say, hey, here's a clean ten game sample size.

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This is what you have to work with, and it

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gives you a built in excuse. And I'm not saying

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they're making it. It is fair to say they haven't

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really gotten a fair shake with this group because of

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all these different factors. But it means you're pushing back

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making adjustments to a later date. And therefore, let's say,

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regardless of if guys were healthier on a minister restriction,

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this lineup just wasn't going to work, even if they

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were everybody healthy and in ideal spots. Well, we're gonna

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take longer to figure that out now, because it sounds

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like they're gonna take their time and really be patient.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he said ten to fifteen games and the rotation

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will be cut down from ten to nine, which I

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don't and I mean this in a that would be

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great if that were possible, But I don't think right

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now we're gonna see that within ten to fifteen games,

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just because we got and this was before the Kawhi

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ain't so like it, and you can't. I know, people

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want to just plug in a guy for a game

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and see how it goes, right, Like, why isn't John

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Collins starting? That's the thing. We've heard a bunch and

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it's like, hey, I get the frustration, but like you said,

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we haven't even had the fully healthy starting lineup for

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more than four games or whatever. It is like, we can't.

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You can't put the cart in front of the horse

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when the horse is not even shoot yet or whatever

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metaphor I'm trying to say here. That was actually pretty good,

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but that was not bad.

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Speaker 2: You gotta put the bit in the horse's mouth.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't put the cart before Yeah, the players

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are the spurs. The backups are the cart. But you

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know what I mean, it's just it's roster crunch it

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like we would learn. And this isn't to take anything

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away from how great of a start to the season

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John Collins has had, because not a single Clippers fan

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is upset with John Collins and what he's done so far,

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starting him for a game and being like, well that

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was pretty good with a bunch with you know, when

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guys who aren't going to be starting in that lineup

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means nothing in the grand scheme of the team's success

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right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but to your point of, well, it was going

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to be ten to fifteen games, but now that they

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haven't gotten a healthy sample size of these guys, that's

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it going to be fifteen to twenty five games to

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figure this out. How long is it going to take

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to get there? When does the sense of urgency kick in? Yeah?

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That was something that Tilmara Zarli kind of ask coach

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Lou pregame, can you afford to experiment and go through

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this process because of the Western Conference? And Coach Lou

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made it clear there and I thought this was big

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that Bradley Beal is a starter for us. Yeah, it

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didn't equivocate. That is sly set in stone. So Bradley

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Beal's not going anywhere. So if everybody is like, we

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want done and and Collins in the starting lineup, take

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out DJ take out Bradley Beal looks like it best.

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There's only one spot available and that's DJs. And to

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be fair, DJ has been really damn good to start

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this season. This is not on him.

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Speaker 1: DJ and Collins have been like the two most consistent players.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and James aside from the turnovers, has been their

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best players. But yeah, been their best player. Yeah, those

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two have been great. So how do you come to

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DJ and be like, hey, I'm sorry, we got to

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take you out even though you're off to the best

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start maybe of your career in a season. And it

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looks like he's knocking down threes at a higher rate.

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We'll see how that holds up. He's slashing getting to

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the basket. I really like what we've seen from him.

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But does it work long term? And how much time

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do they have to figure this out? It's another game

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tomorrow where they're not going to be able to get

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much data all when it comes to the starting lineup.

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What they go with tomorrow could be a one off

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type of game, just like it was against ok See and.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Saturday too, right, Like, it's not a back to back,

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but it's there's only one day off. You know.

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Speaker 2: When Kawai came when that quaid news came out that

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he was going to miss the game yesterday. I was

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still hopeful that okay, but this is a back to back,

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so maybe he was going to miss it anyways. And

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now that he's not missing the game against the Suns

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where they have a day off in between, and now

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he's had a couple of days off that first game

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against them on Thursday, that leads me to think it's

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a little bit more concerning at least that he's out

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for another game, because I could make the argument that

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he probably shouldn't be playing back to backs anyways, regardless

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of the ankle tweak. Agreeable that we said that back

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in twenty twenty four when his knee swelled up out

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of nowhere at the end of the season. I said,

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then I don't think he should play it back to

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back the rest of his career, with how injury prone

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he has been. Solutely, you could have thought, well, well,

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they're just being overly cautious, and maybe it gives them

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an excuse not to play him on a back to

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back because he tweaked the ankle late in the game

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against the Miami Heat. But that doesn't seem like it's

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it's the case because now he's missing the next game.

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Speaker 1: And Tyleru initially when asked about it, and this I'm

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not saying, this is a concrete diagnosis. His phrasing was,

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we're gonna know in a couple of days. So it

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was like that to me was like, Oh, he's missing

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one for sure, because that's the nature of the What

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does law Murray say? The nice thing about the NBA

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is you always have a chance to bounce back very

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quickly from your last performance. That to me was like, oh,

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so it's at least yeah, I hope he plays on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, this is just one of them to start

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seven and three at worse with this schedule, this may

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be the easiest ten game stretch of the season and

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blowing it. They are gotta be honest about it, like

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they could they could have a twenty five and six

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stretch or something like that coming up. But because of this,

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it could still cost them a top three seed.

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Speaker 1: Well and they I mean, look at last year. They

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went fourteen and three, fifteen and two over the last seventeen.

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Speaker 2: Eighteen and three, the last twenty one yeah too, not

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be playing. Yeah, they had to win that final game

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against Golden State the play in to stay out of

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the play in Pseudo playoff type of game, so I

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play in off. Yeah, this is significant to me. I

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think the Clippers mindset is still as long as we're

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healthy by the time the playoffs starting, we're not in

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the plan will be fine no matter who we play,

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not as it, love it or hate it. That could

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be where we are. That's what it's felt like in

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the past, and I don't see that changing with the

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things are going right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I felt we're gonna get into the game preview

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just a few But we love zoo Bots on this podcast.

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We championed him even before we started this podcast. All

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three of us have been zoo heads. Someone made a

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very funny joke on Twitter. I was like, oh, Zoo's

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touch looks a little rough to start the season around

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the basket, and someone said, yeah, it must have been

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that ten pounds. He like, he said, this touch must

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have weighed ten pounds. Very funny joke, very well played.

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But what's going on is that just a rhythm thing?

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Is like, he's not an old guy who needs to start.

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He didn't play as much summer basketball because Croatia, for

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the first time in their history, didn't qualify for the

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EuroBasket and he has played a lot better after the

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EuroBasket summers. But I hope he gets into gear soon man,

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because we love him as a safety valve. But if

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it's not as sharp as it usually is when they're

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in the current kind to run a form they are,

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it's a little more glaring and he gets the unfair

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criticisms of he sucks now or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Last night was the first game in a while where

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I put blame on a visa Zubots, because they actually

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did try to feature him starting the third quarter. He

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got a hook shot, they kept trying to go to him.

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Some of it ended in turnovers by him or just missshots. Now,

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he was not nearly good enough against Okac, and I

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think their only chance of winning that game was somebody

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else had to get it going because you had James

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Harden in the first quarter, Collins in the second quarter.

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Who's going to be the next guy to help out

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in the group project to try to keep them afloat.

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Speaker 1: And annoys Zoo.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and there they are. They're still the best defense

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right now in the league by like four points per

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one hundred possessions. They've been elite, and that's why they're

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undefeated because actually the first six games of the season.

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They started, they were the worst shooting three points team

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in the West the first six games, and then they

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went off.

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Speaker 1: It was like twenty one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they went off against the Pelicans, and then they

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obviously shot well against us last night, and I think

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it's almost like, what was it forty eight percent or

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something them three, But their defense kept him, kept him

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in it. The Clippers, meanwhile, is the opposite of that.

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Their defense last season kept them in it, and right

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now it's like twentieth. But Abasta Zubots like that was

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a big opportunity for him, and he was not nearly

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good enough and deserves criticism for that performance. I don't

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say that very often the beats of Zubots, because most

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of the time it's everybody else not getting him involved enough. Now,

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maybe when you bring up rhythm and timing like he's

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been in single digit shot attempts the last three games.

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Seven shots against the Pelicans, nine against Miami, three last night,

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the three excuse me eight last night, made three of

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them last night I will put on him because they

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were trying to get him the basketball. He wasn't force

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full enough. He had turned off. But the two games prior,

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I was still like, what are we doing here? Are

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we going to get a beats? Zubas a little bit

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more involved? So did did that hurt his timing coming

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into a game where he would have more usage out

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there last night? I don't know, but he still has

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had a twenty one point game against Portland with eight boards.

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He had nineteen granted a lot of that game after

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Utah was already up big in game one. There's nothing

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wrong with his movement, there's nothing wrong with he hasn't

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forgotten right he had to shoot right handed and left

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handed hook shots. He's just as skilled as ever. It's

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just it's just a slow start for maybe a variety

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of reasons.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about Chris Done in some of

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the depth in a sec. But Toe Mayer Azari, wonderful

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beat reporter, just posted a twenty minute super cut on

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Twitter of for those of you complaining about Tylu and

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the coaching staff. Here are the Clippers one hundred and

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twenty turnovers through seven games this season. Please tell me

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which ones the coaching staff could have meled with or prevented.

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Holy shit, till Mary, Hell, Yeah, that's hilarious. What a

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lunatic super cut to make I love that.

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Speaker 2: It's facts. I've been screaming about this people on people

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in the chat going off about this is on the

476
00:26:22,799 --> 00:26:27,039
coaching staff, and it's like, what these careless turnovers are

477
00:26:27,079 --> 00:26:31,559
on them? Yeah, I'm I'm very happy he did this.

478
00:26:32,319 --> 00:26:32,640
That is.

479
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: That's so funny all right? Depth wise, John Collins, I mean,

480
00:26:41,559 --> 00:26:46,359
no notes, what a wonderful sarcus is Chris Dunn your guy,

481
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,160
your defensive identity guy. They gotta find more minutes for him.

482
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,119
Tyler's talked about it. God is there such a big

483
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,240
difference when he is on the floor. And this is

484
00:26:56,279 --> 00:26:58,160
a credit to how good he is as well, like

485
00:26:58,279 --> 00:27:02,200
he I don't know what anyway, contract wise, the man

486
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:07,160
should be paid more money. But it's a weird problem.

487
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 2: Some people were thanking God that he wasn't in the

488
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,799
starting lineup to start off this season. Now we're asking

489
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:14,720
for him back in.

490
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,599
Speaker 1: Like I I'm not formally asking for him back then.

491
00:27:18,079 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 2: Well, you may get there eventually. I think Chris Nunn

492
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,440
is there is a different spirit and energy when he's

493
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,400
out there on the floor defensively, And I haven't checked

494
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,440
the numbers and all the lineup data when he's out

495
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,400
there and how their defense looks. I probably should, but

496
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,119
it's still I feel like not even checking these things

497
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,519
or carrying that much till ten games typically totally because

498
00:27:41,559 --> 00:27:46,920
against one game swings things so quickly with the numbers.

499
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,559
But against Phoenix, they're down ten in the first quarter,

500
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,319
he comes in, has two steals right away, completely changed

501
00:27:55,319 --> 00:27:57,640
the trajectory of that game to get them their first win.

502
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,880
Against Miami, say thing in the second half where it

503
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,839
looked like it was getting away from them. They eventually lost,

504
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,480
and he played twelve straight minutes and coach lu took

505
00:28:07,519 --> 00:28:09,200
him out maybe around the four or five minute mark

506
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:10,960
of the fourth quarter, But from the end of the

507
00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:12,880
third to the star of the fourth where he had

508
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,480
an inbound steal to start the fourth for a layup,

509
00:28:17,279 --> 00:28:20,200
it's just so plainly obvious how good he is and

510
00:28:20,319 --> 00:28:24,759
how inspiring he is defensively for this team. But again,

511
00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:27,960
what are you gonna do? DJ's played well, You're gonna

512
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,400
take him out for Chris Dunn to start right now?

513
00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:33,880
Seven games in. Obviously, Chris Dunn got to start last

514
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,799
night out of necessity because they're missing Kawhi, they're missing

515
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:43,519
Bradley Beal. But I just I think they are overly

516
00:28:43,599 --> 00:28:48,119
reliant on him and his competitiveness out there on the court,

517
00:28:48,279 --> 00:28:51,920
because a guy who probably shouldn't have to play much

518
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,519
more than twenty five minutes, like you shouldn't have to

519
00:28:55,599 --> 00:28:57,880
look to him like if your identity. And that's why

520
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,960
I asked coach lup pregame, because last season he said

521
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,839
so many times, we have to play like he does,

522
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,640
we have to play like Chris Dunn, and their identity

523
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:11,960
might be wrapped up, and they followed his lead and

524
00:29:12,079 --> 00:29:14,599
he started a ton of games last season. I don't

525
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,519
know what it came out to, but are they missing that?

526
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,119
Do they not recognize themselves to start games because Chris

527
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,039
Dunn isn't out there after he started so many last year.

528
00:29:24,559 --> 00:29:24,920
I don't know.

529
00:29:25,359 --> 00:29:27,119
Speaker 1: It's kind of like how Batoum was such a nice starter.

530
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,079
So I was just looking at just NBA Fantasy Labs

531
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:37,119
on off individual net rating differences with Chris Dunn. Every

532
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,279
single player who plays meaningful minutes so far has a

533
00:29:42,319 --> 00:29:44,799
negative net rating when Chris Dunn is off the court.

534
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:50,079
Bogie's plus three, Chris Paul and Brook Lopez are plus

535
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,319
like seventeen. But those lineups, which we'll talk about them

536
00:29:53,359 --> 00:29:55,640
in a second's not good either, But like when he's

537
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,039
off the court, it seems like most of the regular

538
00:29:58,119 --> 00:30:05,480
guys aren't playing as well. I've liked that Bogie looked

539
00:30:05,519 --> 00:30:08,319
more confident versus the thunder, which I think opens things

540
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,799
up for the Clippers now that he's had some more

541
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,480
time to get back. He made a great feed to Zoo,

542
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,119
kind of a he like drove and like Jump made

543
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,400
the decision hit Zoo, So like I liked the comp

544
00:30:20,519 --> 00:30:22,519
he's kind of if he has another good game, which

545
00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:25,160
we'll need him to have against the Suns, I think

546
00:30:25,279 --> 00:30:28,880
Bogie can be put in the on the upswing category

547
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:29,519
of clips.

548
00:30:30,599 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like, I'm not trying to, you know, find

549
00:30:35,759 --> 00:30:38,519
too many silver linings in a game they lost by nineteen.

550
00:30:38,839 --> 00:30:40,599
Speaker 1: Sure, but there's not a lot.

551
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 2: They probably maximized. I don't know their talent they had

552
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,680
available in that game for the most part, just being

553
00:30:46,799 --> 00:30:49,039
up at the half and brilliant was tight till the

554
00:30:49,119 --> 00:30:52,680
last three minutes of the third quarter. Yeah, but Bogie

555
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,359
came out and hit a three right away, just green light,

556
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,160
I'm shooting this thing, just let it fly. That was

557
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,839
good to see, and he brought it into the front

558
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,279
court a lot. Yeah, for James Harden to get him

559
00:31:05,319 --> 00:31:07,839
off ball to not make it his taxing, and he

560
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,599
did so pretty successfully. So both those things were really

561
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,359
good to see more aggressive offensively. Where are they gonna

562
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,680
need him tomorrow? This has to They're gonna have to

563
00:31:17,799 --> 00:31:19,480
get a big game from him if they're gonna have

564
00:31:19,519 --> 00:31:20,440
a chance against Phoenix.

565
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,079
Speaker 1: Last pairing, and then we'll get into the preview. I

566
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,119
was looking at the two man lineup data with Chris

567
00:31:27,279 --> 00:31:31,519
Paul and brook Lowpins. They have played seventy one minutes

568
00:31:31,559 --> 00:31:36,359
together minus twenty net rating. Lopez can hit the three,

569
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:41,200
We've seen that. If he's not doing that, it's just card.

570
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,119
I'm not you know, there's no again, seven games in,

571
00:31:44,519 --> 00:31:47,799
I'm assuming this will get better. There's no tangible solutions

572
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,039
right now. Even someone was tweeting at us that Yanick

573
00:31:51,039 --> 00:31:53,119
should get some run and I was like, okay, well,

574
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,759
let's let's not make that switch yet.

575
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 2: I think people have reduced brook low Pez to just well,

576
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,519
if he's not hitting threes, what is he doing. He's

577
00:32:03,519 --> 00:32:05,960
still a good rim protector. Did you see the two blocks?

578
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,400
He hadn't shade and sharp in the Portland game? Like

579
00:32:09,079 --> 00:32:12,039
he still is defending the rim. That second unit just

580
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,680
hasn't come together. If if Harden or Kawhy aren't out

581
00:32:15,759 --> 00:32:19,839
there with that second unit, they have been getting destroyed. Yeah,

582
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,920
so it's been brutal, especially because they looked so good

583
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,240
in the preseason. And I guess you got to throw

584
00:32:26,319 --> 00:32:28,559
out everything you see in the preseason because none of

585
00:32:28,599 --> 00:32:31,519
it is translated for this Clippers team and Vets.

586
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,519
Speaker 1: Like it makes sense that a team of Vets would

587
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,400
crush the preseason, you know what I'm saying, Like, it's

588
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:44,880
like they've done this, some of them twenty times, so

589
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,599
they know what guys are trying to do. But yeah,

590
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:51,440
it's uh and again seven games. I'm not saying I'm

591
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:56,599
not concerned, but I'm also not willing to say let's

592
00:32:56,799 --> 00:33:00,839
give Yannick some burn and let's change a starting lineup.

593
00:33:01,599 --> 00:33:03,960
That it's fair to be frustrated that we haven't seen

594
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,799
them all healthy, but the way to fix that is

595
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,079
not wholesale changes.

596
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:15,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of this is guys playing better, valuing

597
00:33:15,079 --> 00:33:18,480
the basketball, not being as careless with it. Check out

598
00:33:18,519 --> 00:33:19,640
the toe mare mix.

599
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: It's like, how long do you think that took him?

600
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 2: Sorry you could sort through, Yeah, it took some time.

601
00:33:29,799 --> 00:33:33,519
That's good work. But I'm not giving up on Broke

602
00:33:33,599 --> 00:33:37,440
Lopez because he at least went four to four from

603
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,519
three last night, I think after going three for his

604
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,920
last seventeen or something like that from three the four

605
00:33:43,039 --> 00:33:47,880
games prior. So he needs that shot, he needs that confidence.

606
00:33:48,559 --> 00:33:52,160
But there is something to okay. If the league is

607
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:57,160
playing faster, your backup center is going to be asked

608
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,759
to do more as well. When it comes to playing

609
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,960
against up tempo teams. I'm not saying everybody's like the

610
00:34:04,039 --> 00:34:06,519
Indiana Pacers when they were a whole with Tyrese Haliburt

611
00:34:06,599 --> 00:34:08,280
in the first round series, and I'm not going to

612
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,039
put a ton into that because they were able to

613
00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:12,320
play Brook off the court at times. It's like, yeah,

614
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,960
they could do that to a lot of centers without

615
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,800
was playing in the finals. Yeah, Tyree's doesn't do his

616
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:25,159
achilles in Game seven, they might be champions. So you

617
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,119
just can't. There are certain guys that you have to

618
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,960
have faith in and confidence in their body of work

619
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,320
and say, and not just body of work. Just look

620
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,360
at last season for the last two years, him and

621
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,320
CP three. The reason I'm not giving up on Chris

622
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,960
Paul is because I just saw him play a two games. Now,

623
00:34:43,119 --> 00:34:46,880
sometimes it can go really quick for older guys, But

624
00:34:47,039 --> 00:34:49,760
I'm not willing to say that after seven games, Nor

625
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,320
am I able to say that for Brook Lopez, who

626
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,320
played seventy nine games I think last season and played

627
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,480
thirty minutes a game from Milwaukee.

628
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,519
Speaker 1: I might say it after fifteen games for Chris Paul's specifically,

629
00:35:00,639 --> 00:35:02,559
but we'll we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.

630
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:09,679
Speaker 2: Well, if we are, then they got real issues. Hopefully

631
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:15,159
Bogie's playing well, because yeah, they need one of these

632
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:19,159
guys to be good this season, to at least be

633
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,639
adequate at that position.

634
00:35:22,199 --> 00:35:26,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is also a reminder of when before

635
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,679
the season started, when people were like, let's make a move.

636
00:35:30,079 --> 00:35:33,480
We got enough depth, Like this is why you have

637
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:38,239
that enough depth, because shit happens, for lack of a

638
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:45,440
better term, right, like you can never have enough enough debt,

639
00:35:45,519 --> 00:35:47,239
Like I don't know how else to say it, Like.

640
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 2: I really think a lot of it is guys being

641
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,719
a little bit shell shocked with how fast the league

642
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:59,559
is getting. That has happened seemingly overnight, Like there's so

643
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,199
t The fastest team last season was playing at one

644
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,119
O three pace. Now there's a few teams at one

645
00:36:06,199 --> 00:36:11,400
oh six I can't remember, but now there's there's like

646
00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:15,239
ten teams playing at one O three or faster right

647
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,920
right now. So then even the lower teams are playing

648
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,880
a little bit faster than they were last season. And

649
00:36:22,639 --> 00:36:27,360
I'm hoping this is gonna slow down. I don't see

650
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,719
it carrying throughout the entire eight ten game season this way,

651
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,719
but for the Clipper's sake, they could use a little

652
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,760
bit of regression with the pace that's going on in

653
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,199
this league. Oh and by the way, like okay, see

654
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,119
came into last night's game, I think bottom eight in pace,

655
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,800
not like they were playing as fastest pace, but selectively

656
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,800
when you turned the basketball over, they can get out

657
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,119
and run real quick and make you pay.

658
00:36:50,679 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. So last year the top five paces, yeah, Grizzlies

659
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,039
one oh three point seven, Bulls one oh three point six,

660
00:37:02,599 --> 00:37:07,199
Hawks one oh three point four, Wizards one O two. Uh,

661
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,480
Oklahoma City Thunder one oh one.

662
00:37:09,559 --> 00:37:13,559
Speaker 2: Basically, so there's one great team in there, right.

663
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, great call. And this year you have, uh, well,

664
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,519
the Bulls are obviously the best team in the NBA

665
00:37:19,639 --> 00:37:21,039
this year. If you want to think, if you want

666
00:37:21,039 --> 00:37:24,400
to let's let's revisit both teams records in twelve games

667
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,039
you were at Yeah, Heat one oh six, Pace, Wizards

668
00:37:28,119 --> 00:37:32,119
one oh five, Blazers one oh five, MAVs one oh four,

669
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,679
Grizzlies one oh three, Hornets one oh three. Yeah, Like,

670
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,960
it's a way also for teams that don't have very

671
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,280
good outside shooting to compensate.

672
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 2: So they played two of those teams in the Heat

673
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,960
and Blazers. They beat one, They probably should have beat

674
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,880
the other if it's not for all the turnovers into

675
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:58,360
thirty seven points. I I don't think they're that far

676
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:04,360
away from getting this thing to click in when they're

677
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,039
healthy is the caveat The problem is they ain't gonna

678
00:38:08,079 --> 00:38:11,559
be tomorrow. Are they going to be on Saturday? I

679
00:38:11,639 --> 00:38:16,119
don't know. So you talk about cleaning up the turnovers

680
00:38:16,199 --> 00:38:19,280
and coach Lou mentioned pregame that they're the fourth best

681
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,519
offense in the league when they don't turn it over, Well,

682
00:38:23,639 --> 00:38:25,800
we're still not getting a good look at who this

683
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,039
Clippers team can be in a game tomorrow because it's

684
00:38:29,079 --> 00:38:31,800
not the usual guys. So can they really build off

685
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,519
of that even if they win? What does it mean

686
00:38:34,599 --> 00:38:35,119
long term?

687
00:38:35,679 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: What is the takeaway. We're gonna talk about Clippers versus

688
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,719
Suns coming up after this quick audio break. If you're

689
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,960
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692
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693
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694
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Speaker 2: Welcome back in it's Clips and Zip. He's Chef Mokler.

695
00:39:01,119 --> 00:39:07,360
I'm Adam Mosland. It is episode eight nine eight, season four,

696
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,480
eight of season four maybe nine. Good be with you, guys.

697
00:39:11,599 --> 00:39:15,440
Clippers are three and four not great in that department.

698
00:39:15,599 --> 00:39:21,119
Currently episode nine, Clippers have a home and home against

699
00:39:21,159 --> 00:39:24,440
Phoenix starting tomorrow in Phoenix and into a dome on

700
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,920
Saturday night. All right, Chuck, we're gonna talk about this

701
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,960
Phoenix Suns team and what they could do against the Clippers.

702
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,440
Did you buy a chance to see their pace that

703
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,800
they're playing with as you look through the top ten?

704
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,159
Speaker 1: I did not. All I know is that there's no choir.

705
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:43,679
James Harden and Jalen Green is back, and I don't

706
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,519
feel in an incredibly good place about this game. After

707
00:39:47,639 --> 00:39:48,679
the injury report.

708
00:39:50,679 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a kick to the pants. So Phoenix

709
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,239
is middle of the pack pace wise, they're fifteenth.

710
00:39:58,360 --> 00:39:59,079
Speaker 1: Where are the Clips?

711
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 2: The Clippers are twenty eight. Again, pace will necessarily correlate

712
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,840
with wins, like the Rockets are twenty ninth. San Antonio

713
00:40:10,039 --> 00:40:12,320
is twenty seventh. They're five and one. The Rockets are

714
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:16,239
four and two. Okayse's twenty six, they're eight. No, I don't.

715
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,599
I don't want people to think that the faster you play,

716
00:40:18,679 --> 00:40:20,800
the better you are. That's obviously not the case. With

717
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,480
the Washington Wizards being second in pace and one and six.

718
00:40:23,639 --> 00:40:25,880
Thirtieth is Boston they're three and five.

719
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's a wonky team.

720
00:40:29,159 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're you know, they're figuring things out.

721
00:40:33,159 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: Who do we think starts this game? Beal should be

722
00:40:37,039 --> 00:40:41,719
good to go? So are for Sures? I think are

723
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,079
Bradley Beal of eats zubot S Derek Joones JUNI.

724
00:40:46,639 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: I will say Collins, all right, before I say Collins.

725
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: Say because there's done Bogie Collins CP three and with

726
00:40:59,639 --> 00:41:04,000
Kawhi and hardened out, I'm like, it could be any

727
00:41:04,119 --> 00:41:06,480
of these two. These got like.

728
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,519
Speaker 2: You would think it's going to be one of the

729
00:41:10,639 --> 00:41:16,199
Guards and Collins. But because no Bogie has started.

730
00:41:16,679 --> 00:41:19,159
Speaker 1: That's the only reason I say it is because when bull.

731
00:41:19,039 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 2: Lean Bogey right, Not that I fully on board, but

732
00:41:25,519 --> 00:41:30,320
Bogie Bogee. Collins so done and CP three are still

733
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:31,239
coming off the bench together.

734
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that leaves the bench so small though.

735
00:41:38,519 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 2: It'll be them we're out to. Yeah, they're gonna, They're

736
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:50,880
gonna stagger some of this, and the Sons are without

737
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,719
their number one defender dealing the villains out.

738
00:41:55,599 --> 00:41:58,199
Speaker 1: I think. So he's missed their last five games. Let

739
00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:58,960
me look up there.

740
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 2: Did you get hurt against the Clippers? Actually was it? Yeah,

741
00:42:04,519 --> 00:42:07,119
he didn't play last night and they're lost to the

742
00:42:07,199 --> 00:42:09,199
Golden State Warriors one eighteen to one oh seven up

743
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,760
in San Francisco. So they had Royce O'Neill.

744
00:42:12,039 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: Yep Son's injury, partner's Clippers, Jalen Green probable, Dylan Brook's

745
00:42:16,159 --> 00:42:18,599
core muscle strain out.

746
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 2: They had last night Roys O'Neill, Ryan Dunn, Mark Williams,

747
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:31,639
Grace and Allen Devin Booker. Uh So Jalen Green's starting.

748
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,039
He could start for Grace and Allen. He could start

749
00:42:35,079 --> 00:42:42,320
for Ryan Dunn, maybe Royce O'Neill. I don't think Grace,

750
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,400
Allen was starting earlier in the season. I don't think

751
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,440
that was that was Dylan spot because I made so

752
00:42:48,559 --> 00:42:54,800
that could be Jalen Green spot. Yeah either way. Uh

753
00:42:55,719 --> 00:43:00,039
so it's it's Jalen Green's first game? Is he and

754
00:43:00,199 --> 00:43:05,039
beyond minutes restriction to possibly match the Bradley Beale minute restriction.

755
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: Which is like twenty Now maybe it goes up tomorrow.

756
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 2: But yeah, twenty. It's Binge twenty. I man, they could

757
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,360
really use it to be excited, but coach lu stress,

758
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,239
we're gonna bring him along slowly. I get it. Like,

759
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,639
first of all, when we came into the season, a

760
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,079
lot of us were saying, Hey, I like this. They

761
00:43:28,119 --> 00:43:31,119
have a point of attack defender and Derek Jones Junior

762
00:43:31,159 --> 00:43:33,920
out there to keep that identity. I'm all for that.

763
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:39,159
And the theory and idea of Bradley Beal raising their

764
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:44,079
ceiling versus what they had last year is only gonna

765
00:43:44,079 --> 00:43:46,239
happen if he's doing it and fitting in with the

766
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,719
starters and playing his brand of basketball. Like they have

767
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,320
to make that fit and that's how you get the

768
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,119
highest ceiling in peak with this team probably, so I

769
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,599
get why they're chasing that. You have to that. It

770
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,840
makes sense. Are you going to take your lumps along

771
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,119
the way right now with him in and out and

772
00:44:05,159 --> 00:44:08,679
on a minister restriction the three or four as I'm getting,

773
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,199
And I'm not saying that's the only reason. And it's

774
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:18,599
not like Bradley Beal is not accountable for how many

775
00:44:18,679 --> 00:44:22,440
turnovers to toll marriages posted seventy six.

776
00:44:24,559 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: Excuse me, I was fifty six seventy six.

777
00:44:30,599 --> 00:44:33,679
Speaker 2: To act like it's one issue or one guy is

778
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,800
going to solve this when so many guys are not

779
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:41,480
on the same page right now, that's overly simplistic. So

780
00:44:41,559 --> 00:44:44,280
I'm not trying to put this on. It's the Bradley

781
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,320
Beal piece and they can't make it fit. And if

782
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,679
they just had him healthy, or if they had somebody

783
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,360
else in there, this Clippers team is firing on all cylinders.

784
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,920
That's not it. Because we've seen all types of different

785
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,599
lineups and they're all turning the ball over.

786
00:44:56,039 --> 00:45:01,039
Speaker 1: Right like the personnel switch is not. Yeah, it's horrible

787
00:45:01,159 --> 00:45:06,239
right now, it's yeah. We did Harden and Kauai combined

788
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,159
for fifty seven when we played the Suns earlier this

789
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,000
year and absolutely smoked them. But they won't be there.

790
00:45:13,199 --> 00:45:16,320
One thing I'm looking for from this game. If there

791
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:23,239
was a game for Eviza Zubats to really put his

792
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,519
stamp on the beginning of the season twenty and ten

793
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,760
in this Sun's game would feel phenomenal and is doable.

794
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 2: It's it's overdue with the Vica Zubas having this performance

795
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:44,320
and being featured now. Not having James Harden to help

796
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:48,239
get him the basketball is a problem. But you know,

797
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,440
him and Bogey have had a connection going back to

798
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,639
when Bogey came in last season a little bit, and

799
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:56,679
Bogey found him last night for a nice speed. That

800
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,760
could be another reason that he's starting in this ballgame.

801
00:46:00,639 --> 00:46:03,280
But hey, it could be CB three. I have no idea,

802
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:08,239
who knows, but they're gonna have to find ways. But

803
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:12,199
Tom could be big. Also, he makes great entry passes. Yeah,

804
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,360
they have to get him involved or you're gonna lose

805
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,480
the game. Like you're not gonna win this game probably

806
00:46:18,559 --> 00:46:21,599
if beats Zubats doesn't have a twenty ten type.

807
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 1: Of night, and bal probably has to have twenty two, right.

808
00:46:27,159 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 2: If he's only playing twenty minutes for sure? Yeah, yeah,

809
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,760
I don't know. I he has to be efficient and

810
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,599
impactful when he's out there. How for however many minutes.

811
00:46:38,079 --> 00:46:41,239
I like that, And he's playing his former team and

812
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,079
they're probably gonna boo the hell out of him. They

813
00:46:43,159 --> 00:46:50,440
will that to Phoenix, I don't think, so, I don't

814
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,840
like it won't be majority booze if there are boos.

815
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 1: And he's been there's been a franchise in between, you know.

816
00:46:58,519 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, he's already I'm back. He's already returned. And

817
00:47:02,039 --> 00:47:05,079
reportedly it was between them and the Clippers this past summer,

818
00:47:05,159 --> 00:47:07,519
so it seemed like he was on good terms with them.

819
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:12,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Phoenix. Phoenix sucks. All of Phoenix sucks.

820
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,280
Gotta control the turnovers with this one, the Suns averaged

821
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,119
the third most per game in the league from when

822
00:47:20,119 --> 00:47:21,079
I made this breakdown.

823
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,639
Speaker 2: So if we're fourth most, I think we're the most.

824
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:30,039
Speaker 1: So if we can just I guess, take advantage of

825
00:47:30,119 --> 00:47:36,199
their inevitable maybe turnovers and we don't turn it over

826
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,320
nineteen times in this game, I would like our chances more.

827
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 2: Phoenix is fifth in steals at about ten per game.

828
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,719
The Clippers are third and ten point three. So what

829
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,239
you're asking for is reasonable.

830
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:54,760
Speaker 1: Always reasonable asks here.

831
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 2: The other one is the turnover battle.

832
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,199
Speaker 1: When even by one. You don't even blow them out

833
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,719
in the turnover battle. Let's just win it. Let's win

834
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,119
it by the smallest of margins. The other one in

835
00:48:06,199 --> 00:48:10,119
this one. Free throws. The Sons do not take a

836
00:48:10,159 --> 00:48:13,480
lot of free throws. They're like third to last in

837
00:48:13,679 --> 00:48:17,559
free throw attempts per game, and defending without fouling has

838
00:48:17,639 --> 00:48:22,159
kind of been an issue for the Clippers. So I'm

839
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,679
hoping we don't give them more than what they're used

840
00:48:25,679 --> 00:48:26,320
to at the line.

841
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 2: Can we go over the starting lineup one more time?

842
00:48:30,599 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: Ours are the Sons.

843
00:48:33,159 --> 00:48:36,559
Speaker 2: The Clippers, So for sures, what.

844
00:48:36,639 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: I put for for sure is Bradley Beal. Aviatz you

845
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,599
bouts Derek Jones jun Because I don't think they want.

846
00:48:41,639 --> 00:48:43,360
I think Derek Jones Jr. Is kind of seen as

847
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,960
the Bradley Beal. He's a starter for us peace right now.

848
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:52,920
I wonder there play the Twin Towers.

849
00:48:54,199 --> 00:48:57,119
Speaker 2: I was actually think thinking would they go smaller with

850
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:03,719
Bogie and done so done and could guard because they're

851
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:07,719
not that big Phoenix, so they could have guys to

852
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,320
guard Booker and James.

853
00:49:10,119 --> 00:49:12,639
Speaker 1: Green Point right like Booker's effectively.

854
00:49:12,679 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 2: He's averaging thirty one per game. If you have CP

855
00:49:17,039 --> 00:49:20,519
three or Bogie out there to start, he's gonna be

856
00:49:20,599 --> 00:49:25,079
hunting them. Yeah, I don't know.

857
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: Tough spot. When you have two starters out hot take,

858
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:29,920
it's difficult.

859
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,039
Speaker 2: To make that their two best players. Yeah, because I.

860
00:49:33,119 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: Was thinking three guard too, Like I was like, well,

861
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,880
if you have Donn and Derek Jones junior out there,

862
00:49:39,599 --> 00:49:42,599
that's phenomenal for the defense with Zoo, right, you have

863
00:49:43,639 --> 00:49:45,119
levels of great defense there.

864
00:49:46,599 --> 00:49:49,280
Speaker 2: They need at least two ball handlers.

865
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: Right, And I don't think they'll start Collins. I love

866
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,079
John Collins. Is not a knock on him. I don't.

867
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,239
I'm not saying he won't start at some point, but

868
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,760
they've made it clear that, Like I think through their

869
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,519
road so far that Collins is a bench guy right now,

870
00:50:02,599 --> 00:50:04,920
which is not bad. He's been phenomenal for this team.

871
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 2: I also would point out, like I see some of

872
00:50:12,039 --> 00:50:15,679
what the coaching staff mentioned when law Murray said that

873
00:50:16,599 --> 00:50:19,679
he heard that Collins was a little bit behind with

874
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:24,960
where they wanted him to be with the offense. Yeah,

875
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:30,119
I think he had five turnovers last night for a

876
00:50:30,199 --> 00:50:34,119
guy that doesn't handle the ball much. Yes, he had

877
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:38,280
five turnovers. So for everyone just looking at hey had

878
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,239
seventeen points in twenty five minutes. He had five of

879
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,760
their nineteen turnovers, and he's not a ball handler.

880
00:50:44,039 --> 00:50:45,679
Speaker 1: I think Van Gundy told him to turn it over

881
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:49,800
five times, Is that right? I think that's what he's just.

882
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 2: He's executing the game plan, is executing the game play. Well,

883
00:50:54,119 --> 00:50:56,119
we'll see that on tape in Tomares mix.

884
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:01,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Van Gunny's going turn it over, turn it over.

885
00:51:02,159 --> 00:51:05,880
That's a great point about Collins's turnovers because again, phenomenal

886
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:11,239
hustle guy. We need him in transition. But yeah, the

887
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:15,239
turnovers not ideal. Lopez have to play because if Zoo

888
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,400
gets featured heavy, I don't know, man, like, this is

889
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:24,800
gonna be a uh interesting this. I hope for the

890
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,719
Clipper's sake that this is a slog of a game.

891
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,880
This cannot get out and run. If this is a

892
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:36,039
get out and run game, I don't like that at all.

893
00:51:37,199 --> 00:51:39,159
We're down two guys anyway, I don't care which two

894
00:51:39,199 --> 00:51:42,000
guys were down. You're down to regular rotation guys, and

895
00:51:42,079 --> 00:51:46,639
you put this Clippers team on the track. That's tough.

896
00:51:48,039 --> 00:51:52,519
Speaker 2: No, they're not equipped for that type of basketball, especially

897
00:51:52,679 --> 00:51:55,880
right now with the guys who are going to be out.

898
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:02,519
We need them. We need them to execute their offense

899
00:52:02,599 --> 00:52:05,440
to hit shots so they can set their defense. And

900
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,159
they can do that in the half court when they're

901
00:52:08,199 --> 00:52:12,119
not turning it over. But again, it's going to be

902
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,000
when the system is not there and James Harden, who

903
00:52:15,159 --> 00:52:19,039
creates the best looks for this Clippers team, even that

904
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:23,679
is going to be difficult just getting good shots. So

905
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,760
Zoo is going to have to be fed early and offense,

906
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,480
and he's gonna have to demand the ball and he's

907
00:52:28,519 --> 00:52:30,719
gonna have to be aggressive and play to his size

908
00:52:31,119 --> 00:52:36,199
and finish and really get in his bag. It can't

909
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:37,920
be like last game where they tried to get him

910
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,760
going in the third quarter. It's gonna be three of

911
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,559
the first five possessions he's touching the basketball of the block.

912
00:52:46,199 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 1: We got to see that they had to play they

913
00:52:48,519 --> 00:52:50,000
drop a couple years ago or it was like, we're

914
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,039
getting Zoo the first bucket. That's what we got to see.

915
00:52:53,079 --> 00:52:54,639
We saw it for Marcus Morris back in the day.

916
00:52:54,639 --> 00:52:56,239
We've seen it for guys before, but we know that

917
00:52:56,320 --> 00:53:02,159
there's one for Big Zoo. Let him shoulder some of that, and.

918
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 2: It's it's Mark Williams. It's Nick Richards is the big man. Uh,

919
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:14,039
the guy out of Duke that they drafted. He hasn't

920
00:53:14,079 --> 00:53:16,800
played the last He had a d n P last

921
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:17,239
time out.

922
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:18,760
Speaker 1: Malik whatever.

923
00:53:19,519 --> 00:53:23,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, tough to pronounce the name, but he was the

924
00:53:23,079 --> 00:53:24,039
tenth pick in the draft.

925
00:53:24,519 --> 00:53:25,519
Speaker 1: People really like him.

926
00:53:25,559 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 2: I thought.

927
00:53:26,039 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: I've seen Suns fans be like, where is he?

928
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,639
Speaker 2: Everybody is mad at their coach for something, no matter

929
00:53:33,679 --> 00:53:37,239
who your coach is, Jones, They're mad. They're mad at this.

930
00:53:38,039 --> 00:53:40,159
Speaker 1: City shouldn't exist. The only reason it exists because the

931
00:53:40,159 --> 00:53:46,199
air conditioning was inbedded. Oh okay, any other notes before

932
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,519
we do our player of the game pick, which everyone

933
00:53:48,639 --> 00:53:50,360
is on the table for. By the way, when there's

934
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,000
two starters out, anyone can be player of the game.

935
00:53:53,039 --> 00:53:56,679
Do you have any other notes before our most important

936
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,039
player of the game, because everyone knows the eighth game

937
00:53:59,079 --> 00:54:01,280
of the season is where shit gets figured out.

938
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:08,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't let Devin Booker go for seventy. It has happened.

939
00:54:09,199 --> 00:54:11,480
I agree, although they lost that game. So if he

940
00:54:11,559 --> 00:54:13,119
goes for seventy and the Clippers still win.

941
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Speaker 1: Up seventy, yeah, were they at home too?

942
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Speaker 2: I will say it was a road game in Boston.

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Speaker 1: When people were discrediting the seventy I was like, it's

944
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still seventy point. It's still pretty sick.

945
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Speaker 2: It was like his second season two. They all took

946
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a team Pixer afterwards. It's pretty historic, super young.

947
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Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty cool. Okay, who is your player of the

948
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game for the Clippers? We do not pick for the opposing.

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Speaker 2: Team, since you're asking me first, I gotta go big Zoo.

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I just don't know how they win this game if

951
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he's not giving you twenty twelve couple of blocks. We

952
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were good on the getting his free throws.

953
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Speaker 1: Like we were the first half of the Thunder. We

954
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were setting good screens, we were dominating.

955
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Speaker 2: The boards like they also were missing a lot, so

956
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some of the defensives rebounds were like, oh, yeah, they're missing.

957
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Speaker 1: I hope you grabbing that. Yeah, Zoo's a good pick.

958
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I think I gotta go. I know that Bradley Oil

959
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is on a minister restriction. I agree that he needs

960
00:55:21,039 --> 00:55:25,519
to be efficient. I'm going Derek Jones Junior. He's gonna

961
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be called on to do more defensively, I think, and

962
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if he can put up twenty efficiently, like you mentioned

963
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about the OKAC game, right, we needed someone else to

964
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put in that work for the group project and we

965
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didn't really get it. I think Derek Jones Jr. Can

966
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be that guy. I don't know who's doing the heavy lifting.

967
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It's gonna go zoo Derek Jones Jr. And then like

968
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h Bradley Beal hopefully with an efficient twenty four. That's

969
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a lot now that I say it.

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Speaker 2: This is an opportunity for him to get a green

971
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light and not have to worry about deferring to James

972
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or to Kawhi Leonard or just trying to fit in

973
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type of thing. No, you be aggressive. You're going up

974
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against your former team. There's probably some bad blood there.

975
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Go get him, Yeah, go get him. It's also Derek

976
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Jones's former team too, and he said after their first

977
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win over Phoenix this season that there was a little

978
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something more to it.

979
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: Who is Will picking.

980
00:56:27,679 --> 00:56:31,159
Speaker 2: Bogie Bogie or CP three.

981
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 1: Let's go CEP three will pick CP three officially.

982
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Speaker 2: Officially on the record show.

983
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 1: We should have a stenographer. We should up for every

984
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pot who's taking notes for this.

985
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Speaker 2: Eric's on it.

986
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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, that wraps things up. We're gonna do

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a happy hour, hopefully happy hour stream at five pm

988
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on Friday at YouTube dot com as Akliber's podcast. We'll

989
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put the audio out to again, could be Sad Hour,

990
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depending what happens, but we'll talk about the game against

991
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the Suns. Probably a full pod on Sunday to talk

992
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the upcoming Clippers games and reviews. Help. You can review

993
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us at Spotify, iTunes, deezer, wherever you're getting your podcasts.

994
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We always appreciate the reviews. Adam seven games in. People

995
00:57:21,599 --> 00:57:26,039
are feeling down. We need one positive thing for these

996
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Clippers fans.

997
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Speaker 2: You're forcing me to.

998
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Speaker 1: Contraction.

999
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Speaker 2: They started three and four last year, they still won

1000
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fifty games. I think it's I think it's pretty simple.

1001
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Hearts they didn't have Falai to start off last season

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with healthy Anyways, there it is, there, it is. We're

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hyping positivity, extreme positivity.

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Speaker 1: I love that extreme positivity. Is there were three and

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four last year. Let us know how you're feeling Actlippers pod.

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I am at Chuck Makler on Twitter. He is follow

1007
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Adam a, listen to him on the radio, be nice

1008
00:58:07,679 --> 00:58:10,599
to him in the chat on Clippers Talk, and we'll

1009
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see y'all on Friday. Here is to a win tomorrow

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against the Suns and as always let's go clips