WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.320 --> 00:00:06.240 It's Nightside with Dan Ray on WBS, Boston's news radio. 2 00:00:06.799 --> 00:00:10.359 More the great segue. Did you notice how that broadcast, 3 00:00:10.480 --> 00:00:14.759 that journalist, that professional, was able to segue from the 4 00:00:14.880 --> 00:00:19.160 last sports story to the program that's now with you. 5 00:00:19.280 --> 00:00:21.760 My name is Dan Ray, and this is Nightside. Welcome 6 00:00:21.760 --> 00:00:24.120 in everybody. Good news for the Red Sox tonight they 7 00:00:24.120 --> 00:00:26.679 have a night off so they can lick their wounds 8 00:00:26.679 --> 00:00:28.879 and get ready for Tampa Bay tomorrow. Nights. I'll give 9 00:00:28.879 --> 00:00:31.879 you a little bit of sports as well. Anyway, we 10 00:00:32.000 --> 00:00:34.520 will be here, we being myself and Rob Brooks. He's 11 00:00:34.560 --> 00:00:36.840 about I don't know, one hundred miles away from me. 12 00:00:37.000 --> 00:00:41.359 I would guess Rob as the crow flies, he's in Medford, Massachusetts, 13 00:00:41.439 --> 00:00:44.960 at the broadcast house, and he's the producer of this program. 14 00:00:45.240 --> 00:00:47.399 By the way, for those of you who are interested 15 00:00:47.520 --> 00:00:49.359 in what we're going to be talking about tonight, at 16 00:00:49.439 --> 00:00:51.600 nine o'clock tonight, we're going to talk about the death 17 00:00:52.240 --> 00:00:58.479 of that state police cadet. What a horrible, horrible story. 18 00:00:58.560 --> 00:01:02.000 If you haven't heard about it, stick with us at 19 00:01:02.079 --> 00:01:04.439 nine o'clock. I want to hear there has to be 20 00:01:04.519 --> 00:01:08.719 some some people have to be responsible for what happened. 21 00:01:08.719 --> 00:01:11.000 To this young twenty five year old man from Worcester. 22 00:01:11.640 --> 00:01:14.159 Then later on we will talk at beginning at ten 23 00:01:14.159 --> 00:01:20.000 o'clock about the second assassination attempt against the life of 24 00:01:20.040 --> 00:01:25.760 former President Donald Trump. It's it's not an apparent attempt. 25 00:01:25.959 --> 00:01:29.760 I think it's an assassination attempt, whether you get a 26 00:01:29.799 --> 00:01:33.000 shot off or not. But we'll talk about all of 27 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:36.400 that later. But we have four very interesting guests here 28 00:01:36.400 --> 00:01:38.319 in the eight o'clock hour and what we call the 29 00:01:38.439 --> 00:01:40.959 night Side News Update, And we're going to start off 30 00:01:40.959 --> 00:01:45.840 with Rachel Robine. Rachel, help me, is it Robine or Robin. 31 00:01:47.239 --> 00:01:47.719 Rubine? 32 00:01:47.799 --> 00:01:48.799 So the friend line. 33 00:01:48.680 --> 00:01:50.719 Rubine, okay, so we can get rid of that. Oh, 34 00:01:51.959 --> 00:01:54.519 Rubine Rubine. 35 00:01:54.560 --> 00:01:55.159 You got it? 36 00:01:55.840 --> 00:01:59.319 Okay? And you were with the Washington Post. And more 37 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:04.680 labels are coming to our favorite foods. I thought we 38 00:02:04.760 --> 00:02:07.599 had warning labels. But what's going on with the Food 39 00:02:07.599 --> 00:02:09.280 and Drug Administration? Rachel? 40 00:02:10.520 --> 00:02:14.319 Yeah, So the Food and Drug Administration is planning to 41 00:02:14.400 --> 00:02:18.560 propose labeling this fall, which means it would just be 42 00:02:18.599 --> 00:02:22.199 our proposal. It would not be finalized, but kind of 43 00:02:22.240 --> 00:02:26.240 the first step on putting labels on the front of 44 00:02:26.280 --> 00:02:32.080 food and drink packages. So the idea from SDA officials 45 00:02:32.360 --> 00:02:39.479 is to help Americans make healthier choices to address obesity rates. 46 00:02:39.520 --> 00:02:43.759 So now what the labels would be supposed to do? Again, 47 00:02:43.840 --> 00:02:46.639 we have not yet seen the proposal, but there were 48 00:02:46.800 --> 00:02:51.000 focus groups that tested potential labels, and they're supposed to 49 00:02:51.039 --> 00:02:56.400 flag products containing high levels of sudium, saturated fat, or 50 00:02:56.479 --> 00:03:00.400 added sugar. So these common features of ultra process foods 51 00:03:00.879 --> 00:03:04.280 that now make up more than half the calories Americans 52 00:03:04.319 --> 00:03:05.199 consume each day. 53 00:03:06.199 --> 00:03:08.719 You know, I understand it, and it sounds like a 54 00:03:08.800 --> 00:03:12.919 great idea, But I get I'm going to ask you 55 00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:15.800 this question, and I know you're a reporter, so I 56 00:03:15.800 --> 00:03:19.159 can leave it as a rhetorical question. But how stupid 57 00:03:19.280 --> 00:03:23.680 does our government, whether it's a Democrat or Republican government, 58 00:03:24.240 --> 00:03:28.159 think we the American people are? Haven't we figured out 59 00:03:28.400 --> 00:03:31.960 that ring dings taste really good, but they're probably not 60 00:03:32.120 --> 00:03:36.439 something you should eat at every meal. I hate to 61 00:03:36.520 --> 00:03:40.039 sound cynical, but I know they still have the warning 62 00:03:40.159 --> 00:03:43.240 labels on cigarettes. Is there anyone in America that doesn't 63 00:03:43.240 --> 00:03:45.000 know that cigarettes are bad for you? 64 00:03:47.680 --> 00:03:49.960 I can tell you a little bit about what those 65 00:03:50.159 --> 00:03:50.479 who are. 66 00:03:52.919 --> 00:03:55.879 I'm just amazed at the extent that which the government 67 00:03:55.919 --> 00:03:59.199 will try to explain to us what is patently obvious. 68 00:03:59.520 --> 00:03:59.960 Go ahead on. 69 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:03.360 Sorry, right, I can tell you a little bit about 70 00:04:03.840 --> 00:04:06.400 what both you know, what are reporting shows that both 71 00:04:06.479 --> 00:04:11.759 the supporters and the opponents say, there's there are other 72 00:04:11.879 --> 00:04:16.600 countries that have done these kind of labels. Now they're 73 00:04:16.639 --> 00:04:20.279 they're a little bit different, Chile being one of the 74 00:04:20.360 --> 00:04:25.600 countries that has kind of the most what nutrition experts 75 00:04:25.639 --> 00:04:28.319 say is the most kind of nutrient, the most ambitious 76 00:04:28.360 --> 00:04:32.680 efforts here, and what they do in Chile is they 77 00:04:32.720 --> 00:04:36.639 have like black octagons and canto stock signs on food 78 00:04:36.639 --> 00:04:40.279 tig and calories, saturate, fat, sodium, or sugar. There's been 79 00:04:40.480 --> 00:04:43.519 some research that shows that these kind of easy to 80 00:04:43.600 --> 00:04:47.319 understand warnings are kind of most effective and helping certain 81 00:04:47.360 --> 00:04:53.399 consumers quickly identify and healthy products. Now, if you tach 82 00:04:53.399 --> 00:04:56.680 to the food industry, uh, they've sort of been pushing 83 00:04:56.759 --> 00:04:59.480 back against the labels. They you know, say that they're 84 00:04:59.519 --> 00:05:04.160 too and they question the essays authority to do these labels. 85 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:11.360 And the food industry prefers a voluntary labeling system that 86 00:05:11.879 --> 00:05:16.560 it helped create in two thousand and eleven, which essentially 87 00:05:17.519 --> 00:05:20.279 food companies can sort of choose whether or not to 88 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:24.800 showcase this information such as Kellerie Town or fiber on 89 00:05:24.839 --> 00:05:25.920 the front of packages. 90 00:05:26.519 --> 00:05:28.959 Well, you know, it's funny. I very much believe in 91 00:05:29.279 --> 00:05:32.199 the concept of a voluntary speed limit. So I'm going 92 00:05:32.240 --> 00:05:37.240 to criticize the companies. Now. It'd be like, if you 93 00:05:37.279 --> 00:05:39.199 want to go one hundred and five miles an hour 94 00:05:39.240 --> 00:05:41.560 and you feel you're safe, go right ahead, you know. 95 00:05:41.759 --> 00:05:45.040 I mean, it's crazy. I can understand why the companies 96 00:05:45.079 --> 00:05:47.720 would do this. Maybe what they should do is put 97 00:05:47.759 --> 00:05:51.040 like a I don't know, some sort of a symbol 98 00:05:51.160 --> 00:05:55.399 on everything that's in the store, say a black star, 99 00:05:56.560 --> 00:06:00.439 and if it's a ten, that's really really bad for you. 100 00:06:01.120 --> 00:06:03.959 If it's a one, or maybe the opposite, people might 101 00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:08.199 be confused. If it's a ten, it's really really healthy. 102 00:06:08.600 --> 00:06:11.079 If it's a one, Now you don't want to talk. 103 00:06:12.959 --> 00:06:16.199 There's just something in me, do you. I do read 104 00:06:17.399 --> 00:06:20.160 labels on food I buy. I mean, when I buy 105 00:06:20.160 --> 00:06:23.079 my Oriole cookies, I know what's on the label. But 106 00:06:23.240 --> 00:06:27.560 I like Oriole cookies, okay. But when I go to 107 00:06:27.639 --> 00:06:30.839 buy you know, my lettuce and celery and carrots and 108 00:06:30.879 --> 00:06:35.319 cucumbers and all of that good stuff, I know what 109 00:06:35.399 --> 00:06:39.600 the good stuff is, do you? I don't know. I guess. 110 00:06:40.560 --> 00:06:43.560 I guess there's always some government person out there who's 111 00:06:43.600 --> 00:06:46.160 coming up with an idea. I'll bet you you're a 112 00:06:46.240 --> 00:06:48.360 label reader of the stuff you. 113 00:06:48.319 --> 00:06:53.399 Buy, correct, I mean I think the I think what 114 00:06:53.759 --> 00:06:58.000 researchers want or what the idea of. 115 00:06:57.879 --> 00:06:58.720 This is is. 116 00:06:59.279 --> 00:07:02.800 You know, there's been some focus groups of mothers in 117 00:07:02.879 --> 00:07:06.000 Chile that should the labels improve their ability to make 118 00:07:06.040 --> 00:07:09.399 better nutritional choices for their families. So I guess the 119 00:07:09.439 --> 00:07:12.079 idea being that it's kind of right there on the front. 120 00:07:12.680 --> 00:07:18.519 But again, I can both sides. 121 00:07:19.720 --> 00:07:22.879 I got another. I got another idea. Why don't we 122 00:07:22.959 --> 00:07:27.600 hire a federal employee who would be posted in every 123 00:07:27.879 --> 00:07:32.399 aisle of every supermarket in America And when people go 124 00:07:32.519 --> 00:07:36.160 to reach for Oreo cookies like I do, they could 125 00:07:36.199 --> 00:07:38.800 be there and put our hand and say do you 126 00:07:38.920 --> 00:07:43.000 really want those Oo cookies? And you have to really 127 00:07:43.079 --> 00:07:46.399 say yes, I really want the Oreo cookies or they 128 00:07:46.439 --> 00:07:49.199 won't let you take the oil cookies. I don't know, Rachel, 129 00:07:50.959 --> 00:07:55.439 I don't know. We used to go to Mortz Supermarket 130 00:07:55.480 --> 00:07:58.839 where I grew up, this little little little corner of Boston, 131 00:07:59.000 --> 00:08:02.000 and you know, it's will come a long way. I 132 00:08:02.079 --> 00:08:05.279 just think we should have government bureaucrats in every aisle 133 00:08:05.360 --> 00:08:08.319 of every supermarket. Oh, the price of food might go up, 134 00:08:08.360 --> 00:08:11.920 but we'll eat more healthy. I don't know, Rachel, I'm sorry. 135 00:08:12.040 --> 00:08:16.879 I just I almost think this is funny. I know 136 00:08:17.399 --> 00:08:20.360 you take it more seriously. I was a reporter one time, too, 137 00:08:20.399 --> 00:08:23.079 and I had to walk the straight and narrow, and 138 00:08:23.120 --> 00:08:27.360 you have done it brilliantly. Even though I've tried my 139 00:08:27.480 --> 00:08:32.799 best to make you smile, I have failed miserably. But 140 00:08:33.759 --> 00:08:36.879 I thank you nonetheless for telling us the story straight 141 00:08:36.919 --> 00:08:38.440 down the middle. You did a great job. 142 00:08:39.799 --> 00:08:40.080 Well. 143 00:08:40.080 --> 00:08:41.200 Thank you for having me. 144 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:43.759 We'd love to have you again. And I want to 145 00:08:43.799 --> 00:08:48.080 follow this because I'm gonna do I'm gonna this is 146 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:49.879 going to be a subject on my show later on 147 00:08:49.919 --> 00:08:53.000 this week, and then I'm really gonna get wild. Thanks Rachel, 148 00:08:53.360 --> 00:08:55.440 Say had all my pails at the Washington Post. 149 00:08:55.480 --> 00:08:58.240 Okay, thanks, have a good one. 150 00:08:58.159 --> 00:09:01.559 You too, all right, which is a really good spot, 151 00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:03.960 very good sport. Now we're gonna go from being a 152 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:07.679 good sport to blind spots. When medicine gets it wrong 153 00:09:07.879 --> 00:09:10.559 and what it means for our health, that's probably not good. 154 00:09:10.600 --> 00:09:14.799 Doctor Marty McCarey, health expert at Johns Hopkins University, will 155 00:09:14.879 --> 00:09:17.600 join us right after the break. I'm going to ask 156 00:09:17.639 --> 00:09:20.159 doctor McCarey about this. I think he's gonna be probably 157 00:09:20.159 --> 00:09:22.679 more on my side. We'll see, We will see coming 158 00:09:22.759 --> 00:09:24.000 back on night Side right after this. 159 00:09:24.799 --> 00:09:27.960 Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World 160 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:31.240 night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio. 161 00:09:32.279 --> 00:09:35.120 With me is doctor Marty McCarey. He's a health expert 162 00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:38.080 at Johns Hopkins University. Doctor McCarey has been a guest 163 00:09:38.120 --> 00:09:42.320 in this program before. Before we talk about when medicine 164 00:09:42.320 --> 00:09:44.519 gets it wrong and what it means for our health. 165 00:09:44.960 --> 00:09:46.600 I know you'll be thrilled to know. I was just 166 00:09:46.639 --> 00:09:49.360 talking with a really nice reporter from the Washington Post 167 00:09:49.759 --> 00:09:52.480 who is explaining to me how the federal government is 168 00:09:52.480 --> 00:09:54.919 going to put more warning labels on all of our 169 00:09:54.960 --> 00:09:58.759 favorite foods. I want to go one step further, doctor McCarey. 170 00:09:58.840 --> 00:10:04.559 I think we need a federal employee in every food aisle, 171 00:10:04.679 --> 00:10:07.919 in every American supermarket to tell us what to buy 172 00:10:07.960 --> 00:10:11.480 and what not to buy. The government knows no bounds. 173 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:12.720 How are you to nice? 174 00:10:13.759 --> 00:10:15.639 Good to be with you, Dan, Thanks for having me. 175 00:10:16.799 --> 00:10:21.440 I was the reporter, was straight down the middle, and 176 00:10:21.480 --> 00:10:25.799 I just thought to myself, they have all stuff labels 177 00:10:25.799 --> 00:10:29.879 on food. Now I don't know, Well, I'm a bit 178 00:10:29.919 --> 00:10:30.600 of a libertarian. 179 00:10:30.919 --> 00:10:34.519 You probably know they're labeling things that are not even 180 00:10:34.600 --> 00:10:38.519 central to health. Like they're labeling how much saturated fat 181 00:10:38.639 --> 00:10:41.039 is in food. Well, saturated fat's not bad for you. 182 00:10:41.399 --> 00:10:45.600 That was government misinformation from the food pyramid. So I 183 00:10:45.639 --> 00:10:47.600 don't know if they're helping or hurting. 184 00:10:49.679 --> 00:10:52.080 I still like the idea of a government, a federal 185 00:10:52.120 --> 00:10:55.759 government employee kind of in a uniform, you know, and 186 00:10:55.799 --> 00:10:58.000 march up and down the aisles and tell people don't 187 00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:01.159 buy that, don't buy that. You know, I mean, ah, 188 00:11:01.440 --> 00:11:04.600 so tell us when medicine gets it wrong, and sometimes 189 00:11:04.639 --> 00:11:06.879 they do get it wrong, what it means for our health. 190 00:11:08.639 --> 00:11:13.360 So in medicine we have giant blind spots, and we're 191 00:11:13.360 --> 00:11:16.759 not talking about these big issues central to health, the 192 00:11:16.919 --> 00:11:20.960 root causes of our chronic disease epidemic. We just don't 193 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:24.840 talk about them. But there's a big scientific body of evidence. 194 00:11:25.320 --> 00:11:29.559 And so I present those big topics to people in 195 00:11:29.600 --> 00:11:34.120 this new book. Blind Spots, the microbiome, gut health, how 196 00:11:34.120 --> 00:11:40.039 it affects mental illness and mood, are poisoned food supply, 197 00:11:40.519 --> 00:11:44.440 the pesticides and seed oils. People need to be educated 198 00:11:44.480 --> 00:11:48.799 about the truth on everything from hormone replacement therapy at 199 00:11:48.799 --> 00:11:53.559 the time of metopause, which has been terribly demonized despite 200 00:11:53.639 --> 00:11:58.080 its tremendous health benefits, to how to prevent everything from 201 00:11:58.200 --> 00:12:01.559 peanut allergies and to care answer. There's a lot of 202 00:12:01.559 --> 00:12:03.840 good information out there people need to know about. 203 00:12:04.519 --> 00:12:07.279 Well. Look, I've been a big fan of yours for 204 00:12:07.320 --> 00:12:09.720 a long time because you have always been willing to 205 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:13.960 stand up for what you believe in. Obviously, your background 206 00:12:13.960 --> 00:12:17.519 to Johns Hopkins speaks for speaks for itself. This book 207 00:12:17.559 --> 00:12:20.639 is entitled blind Spots, When Medicine gets it Wrong and 208 00:12:20.799 --> 00:12:23.240 what it means for your health. My understanding is this 209 00:12:23.279 --> 00:12:26.120 book is available beginning tomorrow. The timing here could not 210 00:12:26.200 --> 00:12:27.399 be more perfect correct. 211 00:12:28.679 --> 00:12:31.559 That's why it comes out tomorrow, and it's already it 212 00:12:31.639 --> 00:12:34.360 already just hit the number two best selling book in 213 00:12:34.399 --> 00:12:38.879 America on Amazon. So hopefully we won't run out in bookstores. 214 00:12:38.919 --> 00:12:40.039 But it comes out tomorrow. 215 00:12:40.399 --> 00:12:42.840 Well, if only we would run out, they would have 216 00:12:42.919 --> 00:12:47.360 to have more printed. So one of the things here 217 00:12:47.639 --> 00:12:50.519 you address is peenod allergies. Now I've always been confused 218 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:53.919 by that. There's I guess there are some kids who 219 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:56.600 have peena analogies. Is that true? 220 00:12:56.840 --> 00:13:02.159 Yes, peenadalergies are real and they're fairly common, but not 221 00:13:02.279 --> 00:13:06.039 in Africa or parts of Europe or Southeast Asia. And 222 00:13:06.080 --> 00:13:09.879 it's not because their genes are different. What happened is 223 00:13:09.919 --> 00:13:14.159 in the United States twenty four years ago, the medical establishment, 224 00:13:14.399 --> 00:13:17.159 in its sort of hubris. 225 00:13:17.159 --> 00:13:19.919 Or infinitism or is infinite wisdom. 226 00:13:20.159 --> 00:13:25.399 Infinite wisdom, they told parents. They ordered parents to avoid 227 00:13:25.519 --> 00:13:28.080 all peanut butter for kids ages zero through three, no 228 00:13:28.159 --> 00:13:33.799 peanut products, and that abstinence created immune sensitivities. They got 229 00:13:33.799 --> 00:13:36.960 it perfectly backwards for fifteen years and it was just 230 00:13:37.080 --> 00:13:38.039 recently corrected. 231 00:13:39.120 --> 00:13:43.440 So by having kids not have peanut butter and sandwiches 232 00:13:43.799 --> 00:13:46.399 and jelly sandwiches with you and I probably grew up on, 233 00:13:47.039 --> 00:13:51.600 these little kids never developed an immunity to whatever problem 234 00:13:51.600 --> 00:13:53.960 that might be. And that's why we have so many 235 00:13:54.039 --> 00:13:57.080 kids today who have peena analogies. I assume you're going to. 236 00:13:57.120 --> 00:14:01.600 Tell us, yeah, and it's the old theory and it 237 00:14:01.799 --> 00:14:08.240 you know. What happened was once they ignited this peanut 238 00:14:08.320 --> 00:14:12.200 allergy epidemic in the year two thousand with this bad recommendation. 239 00:14:12.919 --> 00:14:16.919 Then all these kids had such sensitivities they had to 240 00:14:17.000 --> 00:14:20.279 avoid all peanut products in their homes and sometimes in 241 00:14:20.320 --> 00:14:23.320 the schools. And then other kids did not get early 242 00:14:23.360 --> 00:14:26.960 peanut exposure, and it became this perpetual cycle. It became 243 00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:30.279 a self licking ice cream cone. And here we are 244 00:14:30.320 --> 00:14:37.039 today where peanut allergies dominate our pediatric clinics. And this 245 00:14:37.120 --> 00:14:40.320 is a major health problem that by and large was 246 00:14:40.399 --> 00:14:44.559 ignited by medical dogmat just like opioids were not addictive 247 00:14:44.600 --> 00:14:48.360 for thirty years. Igniting the opioid epidemic and the food 248 00:14:48.399 --> 00:14:53.399 pyramid was healthy for you, igniting the modern day obesey epidemic. 249 00:14:54.200 --> 00:14:56.240 We don't have a good track record when we don't 250 00:14:56.320 --> 00:15:00.159 use good scientific evidence to make these broad recommendation. 251 00:15:01.200 --> 00:15:03.960 I'm surprised that they're still passing out and maybe on 252 00:15:04.000 --> 00:15:07.360 some airlines they're not passing out penits anymore. But whenever 253 00:15:07.399 --> 00:15:09.720 I see them passing out penuts on an airplane, I'm 254 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:16.360 thinking to myself, what happens if how does this happen? 255 00:15:16.440 --> 00:15:22.080 Within medicine. Look, there's no more rigorous education, in my opinion, 256 00:15:22.200 --> 00:15:25.679 that anyone can be subjected to. They're going to medical school. 257 00:15:25.840 --> 00:15:28.679 You know, if you can figure out organic chemistry, you're 258 00:15:28.720 --> 00:15:32.639 a better a lot smarter than me, and a lot 259 00:15:32.720 --> 00:15:37.600 smarter than even fairly intelligent Americans. Why is it hubris? 260 00:15:37.759 --> 00:15:39.879 Is it hubris that someone comes up with a theory 261 00:15:40.320 --> 00:15:44.320 and they work to sort of like conclusionary analysis. They 262 00:15:44.440 --> 00:15:48.759 work to find the information which will support the theory 263 00:15:48.799 --> 00:15:50.919 that they want to espouse. Is that sort of a 264 00:15:50.960 --> 00:15:54.200 conclusionary analysis? Is that? Is that the trap they fall into. 265 00:15:55.240 --> 00:15:58.279 It's really the hubris of a small group of doctors 266 00:15:58.279 --> 00:16:02.600 at the top who control role the medical establishment, who 267 00:16:02.639 --> 00:16:05.639 write the curriculum for every medical school in the country. 268 00:16:06.679 --> 00:16:09.639 It's not the rank and file health professional. Doctors are 269 00:16:09.679 --> 00:16:13.679 smart people, Nurses, physician assistance. Everyone I know who's in 270 00:16:13.759 --> 00:16:17.799 healthcare is a good person. But what we've done to 271 00:16:17.919 --> 00:16:22.159 American health professionals is a tragedy. We've told them to 272 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:25.759 put their head down and focus on billing and coding 273 00:16:25.879 --> 00:16:29.080 in these short visits they throw medic people and then 274 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:32.600 we measure these doctors by their throughput. And guess what, 275 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:36.360 when you stop and look up and look around, we're 276 00:16:36.399 --> 00:16:39.840 doing terrible as a country. We are so sick, we're 277 00:16:39.879 --> 00:16:44.960 going backwards. Half of our nation's kids are obese or overweight. 278 00:16:46.440 --> 00:16:49.840 Pediatricians would rarely see a case of type two diabetes, 279 00:16:49.879 --> 00:16:52.759 and the children in a child in their entire career. 280 00:16:53.320 --> 00:16:56.519 Now it's like one in three kids that is born 281 00:16:56.559 --> 00:17:01.240 today will develop type two diabetes, and about fifteen percent 282 00:17:01.320 --> 00:17:04.920 we'll have those signs in childhood. Autism's going up by 283 00:17:05.000 --> 00:17:08.680 fourteen percent every year for the last twenty three years. 284 00:17:09.000 --> 00:17:12.119 And in my field of pancreatic cancer rates have doubled. 285 00:17:12.200 --> 00:17:15.480 Cancer rates have doubled in the last two decades. What 286 00:17:15.640 --> 00:17:18.400 is going on here? We have got to stop just 287 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:22.720 this whack a mole hammer approach. We've done a terrible 288 00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:25.039 thing to doctors. We have not given them the time 289 00:17:25.160 --> 00:17:28.640 or resources to look at the root causes. And we've 290 00:17:28.720 --> 00:17:31.200 got to look in our blind spots and address I had. 291 00:17:31.160 --> 00:17:34.039 An incredible doctor. I had an incredible doctor for about 292 00:17:34.039 --> 00:17:40.359 thirty five years, and he said almost everything you just 293 00:17:40.400 --> 00:17:42.880 said to me, how it became just a burden to 294 00:17:42.960 --> 00:17:46.920 try to practice medicine. You were basically an accountant and 295 00:17:46.960 --> 00:17:52.119 an amana whences, and a record keeper, and it just 296 00:17:52.240 --> 00:17:54.319 kind of overwhelmed him, and he was a great doctor. 297 00:17:54.559 --> 00:17:56.720 Can I ask you one of the question off topic, 298 00:17:56.880 --> 00:18:00.599 because I truly believe this. We need more meta schools 299 00:18:00.599 --> 00:18:04.920 in America. Too many young smart kids getting out of 300 00:18:04.960 --> 00:18:09.480 college who can handle organic chemistry have to go offshore 301 00:18:09.640 --> 00:18:12.920 offshore to get their medical degree. Am I right or 302 00:18:12.920 --> 00:18:14.119 wrong on that in your opinion? 303 00:18:15.799 --> 00:18:18.319 Well, right now, we do need more doctors, but we 304 00:18:18.359 --> 00:18:21.440 also need them in rural areas and taken care of 305 00:18:21.640 --> 00:18:24.480 foreign minority communities. And right now a lot of the 306 00:18:24.559 --> 00:18:26.920 doctors stay in the cities and they all want to 307 00:18:26.960 --> 00:18:31.839 be you know, dermatologists and orthopedic surgeons. We've got to 308 00:18:31.880 --> 00:18:35.480 take care of the whole person. We worship and glorify 309 00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:39.319 sub specialists, and I'm not trashing them. I am one 310 00:18:39.359 --> 00:18:43.160 of them. I am very highly specialized in pancreous surgery. 311 00:18:43.720 --> 00:18:48.319 But we have the most over medicated population in the 312 00:18:48.359 --> 00:18:51.720 history of the world. More medical care is not the solution. 313 00:18:52.240 --> 00:18:55.240 We've got to look at these the root causes. Our 314 00:18:55.279 --> 00:19:00.359 food supply has been poisoned. We have engineered highly active 315 00:19:00.640 --> 00:19:04.440 ingredients and additives. Some of these ingredients have been banned 316 00:19:04.480 --> 00:19:07.920 in Europe and but we still use them here. And 317 00:19:08.480 --> 00:19:11.759 we have seed oils that are not even natural, they're 318 00:19:11.839 --> 00:19:16.799 just byproducts of manufacturing and denaturing, and they're really chemicals 319 00:19:16.799 --> 00:19:20.160 we're cooking with. And we've got pesticides that if they 320 00:19:20.240 --> 00:19:22.319 kill pests, what do you think they're doing to the 321 00:19:22.440 --> 00:19:26.640 gut micro the bacteria. So we're messing up our gut health. 322 00:19:27.160 --> 00:19:29.680 Well, I'll tell you this. This book. 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Thank you so much. 333 00:20:00.240 --> 00:20:01.920 Great to be with you, Dan, Thanks for having me. 334 00:20:02.079 --> 00:20:05.000 Let'll talk so okay, when we get back, we're going 335 00:20:05.079 --> 00:20:07.720 to change topics and we're going to talk about with 336 00:20:07.839 --> 00:20:11.000 him with a guest, who's going to tell us that 337 00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:15.559 Parrington parenting having kids can be hazardous to your health. 338 00:20:16.640 --> 00:20:19.240 This should be an interesting conversation right after the news 339 00:20:19.279 --> 00:20:20.359 break at the bottom of the. 340 00:20:20.279 --> 00:20:27.079 Hour night Side with Dan Ray. I'm Boston's news radio. 341 00:20:28.039 --> 00:20:33.119 All right, want to welcome Carly Church. There's a surgeon 342 00:20:33.279 --> 00:20:37.079 general's warning. This sounds pretty bizarre, but I'm sure Carly 343 00:20:37.240 --> 00:20:41.559 is going to explain it. Parenting may be hazardous to 344 00:20:41.680 --> 00:20:44.839 your health. Carly is a working mom with three kids 345 00:20:44.880 --> 00:20:48.480 that's a full time job, founder of a mastermind group 346 00:20:48.519 --> 00:20:52.920 for women called We Got Your Mama. Carly. Welcome to Nightside. 347 00:20:52.920 --> 00:20:53.319 How are you? 348 00:20:54.160 --> 00:20:57.279 I am great? Thank you so much for having me. 349 00:20:58.240 --> 00:21:01.519 It's about time, right, I think it's about time that 350 00:21:01.720 --> 00:21:06.039 we made this known, made this nationally known, and really 351 00:21:06.039 --> 00:21:06.519 focused on. 352 00:21:06.759 --> 00:21:10.480 Maybe hazardous to your health, But for me, as the 353 00:21:10.559 --> 00:21:14.079 parent of two kids, it's the most important and fulfilling 354 00:21:14.119 --> 00:21:15.400 thing I've ever done in my life. 355 00:21:16.039 --> 00:21:19.480 Yeah, and it can be both. I think I often 356 00:21:19.519 --> 00:21:21.960 in life, some of the most challenging things tend to 357 00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:24.759 be the most rewarding, right you know, Carley, I. 358 00:21:24.759 --> 00:21:27.160 Worked in television for thirty one years before I started 359 00:21:27.160 --> 00:21:29.599 doing this radio show. In two thousand and seven, and 360 00:21:29.640 --> 00:21:32.799 for eleven of those years I worked the early morning shift. 361 00:21:32.799 --> 00:21:35.400 I would get up at three point fifteen in the morning, 362 00:21:35.559 --> 00:21:38.240 three o'clock in the morning, and I would have been 363 00:21:38.240 --> 00:21:40.480 on a hockey rink at ten o'clock the night before, 364 00:21:41.519 --> 00:21:46.920 teaching kids to skate or to hockey, and I would 365 00:21:47.400 --> 00:21:50.160 those are the eleven best years of my life. So 366 00:21:50.720 --> 00:21:53.799 tell us what's going on. When the phrase hazardous to 367 00:21:53.839 --> 00:21:56.559 your health, that's a pretty strong phrase. 368 00:21:57.480 --> 00:22:00.200 It is a strong phrase, and I think they're really 369 00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:04.519 recognizing that this mental health issue that we are facing, 370 00:22:04.599 --> 00:22:09.599 and it's you know, is beyond this day and age. 371 00:22:09.799 --> 00:22:14.079 And the majority of them are parents that are really 372 00:22:14.119 --> 00:22:17.000 struggling with their mental health and they're finding this huge 373 00:22:17.160 --> 00:22:20.519 rise in children and in teens, and it's something they've 374 00:22:20.519 --> 00:22:23.079 never seen before, right, So what are we linking it to? 375 00:22:23.519 --> 00:22:23.559 What? 376 00:22:24.000 --> 00:22:25.799 What are we finding out? So all these studies are 377 00:22:25.839 --> 00:22:29.920 out right, I mean, the previous certain general warnings are 378 00:22:30.440 --> 00:22:33.359 are about teams, are about social media, are about screen 379 00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:35.359 time and all the sort of things, you know, So 380 00:22:35.440 --> 00:22:40.240 we're just really linking those all together. And parents, you know, 381 00:22:40.359 --> 00:22:41.119 they are in charge of. 382 00:22:41.119 --> 00:22:44.640 The what is the solution if there is one or 383 00:22:44.759 --> 00:22:49.119 is this simply an opportunity to recognize reality. 384 00:22:49.960 --> 00:22:53.680 I think it's I mean, I think it's okay. I 385 00:22:53.720 --> 00:22:58.240 think the call to action needs to be where can 386 00:22:58.279 --> 00:23:01.640 I find the support and really really really searching for 387 00:23:01.680 --> 00:23:06.000 that support, something that resonates with you. I think majority 388 00:23:06.079 --> 00:23:10.240 of parents, I mean, there's studies out there quarter of 389 00:23:10.240 --> 00:23:13.880 them are feeling beyond lonely. I mean, I mean I 390 00:23:13.880 --> 00:23:15.920 live in Los Angeles, California, and I was like, I 391 00:23:15.960 --> 00:23:19.039 would like to maybe feel a little bit more separation 392 00:23:19.200 --> 00:23:21.640 from the massive amounts of people here. But at the 393 00:23:21.680 --> 00:23:24.720 same time, I completely resonate with that. After giving birth 394 00:23:24.759 --> 00:23:27.839 and struggling, you know, with raising kids, we can feel 395 00:23:27.839 --> 00:23:30.720 really lonely. So getting out of our comfort zone and 396 00:23:30.759 --> 00:23:34.200 connecting with other parents is key. And that's what I 397 00:23:34.200 --> 00:23:37.000 do in my business. It's connecting parents to each other, 398 00:23:37.000 --> 00:23:39.319 connecting them to experts, getting them to help they need 399 00:23:39.319 --> 00:23:40.640 that they didn't think that they had. 400 00:23:40.799 --> 00:23:41.000 Right. 401 00:23:41.519 --> 00:23:44.480