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Speaker 4: At the beginning of twenty twenty, Doctor Peter McCullough was
Speaker 4: a highly regarded practicing physician, program director, teacher, and clinical
Speaker 4: investigator at a major academic medical center in Dallas, Texas.
Speaker 4: When COVID nineteen in March, he felt a duty to
Speaker 4: find a treatment for the disease. He wasn't alone. Other
Speaker 4: doctors all over the world were also searching for a cure.
Speaker 4: They followed the long standing principle that its best to
Speaker 4: tackle a sickness early, before it becomes life threatening. This
Speaker 4: is the story of how doctor McCullough and his colleagues
Speaker 4: developed an early treatment protocol of generic, repurpose drugs and
Speaker 4: supplements that has saved millions of COVID nineteen patients from
Speaker 4: hospitalization and death. In spite of their success, their early
Speaker 4: treatment protocol was not welcomed by public health officials. On
Speaker 4: the contrary, the news of their promising results was dismissed
Speaker 4: as soon as it was reported. At first, this seemed
Speaker 4: like conventional skepticism, but then fraudulent papers maligning the protocols
Speaker 4: repurpose drugs were published in academic medical journals. This and
Speaker 4: other acts of fraud revealed that a coordinated smear campaign
Speaker 4: against early treatment was being waged. Doctor McCullough and his
Speaker 4: colleagues soon found themselves censured, censored, attacked in the media,
Speaker 4: and fired from their jobs. The greatest victims of the
Speaker 4: smear campaign were COVID nineteen patients who were consequently deprived
Speaker 4: of early treatment. Hundreds of thousands needlessly died of the disease.
Speaker 4: At the same time early treatment was suppressed, the US
Speaker 4: government and mainstream media proclaimed that the cure to COVID
Speaker 4: nineteen lay in a new generation of vaccines that were
Speaker 4: being developed at warp speed. These were herald as a
Speaker 4: forthcoming panacea that would save mankind and restore normalcy. As
Speaker 4: soon as they were mass deployed, public health officials would
Speaker 4: lift the restrictions on social and economic life. While many
Speaker 4: observers were thunderstruck by this turn of events, there were
Speaker 4: historical precedents. In his nineteen sixty one farewell address, President
Speaker 4: Eisenhower warned, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence,
Speaker 4: whether sought or unsought, by the military industrial complex. The
Speaker 4: potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and
Speaker 4: will persist. We must never let the weight of this
Speaker 4: combination and danger our liberties or democratic processes. As doctor
Speaker 4: McCullough and his colleagues learned, Eisenhower's warning has become equally
Speaker 4: aable to the biopharmaceutical complex of multinational drug companies, the
Speaker 4: NIH and other federal agencies, research in virology labs, and
Speaker 4: the Gates Foundation. Since COVID nineteen arrived, this complex has
Speaker 4: obtained misplaced power over every aspect of our lives and
Speaker 4: taken our liberties. The Courage to Face COVID nineteen recounts
Speaker 4: how doctor McCullough and his colleagues began their work by
Speaker 4: fighting a novel infectious disease, and then became leaders in
Speaker 4: fighting the tyrannical regime that endangers our American way of life.
Speaker 4: The book that we're featuring this evening is the Courage
Speaker 4: to Face COVID nineteen, Preventing hospitalization and death while battling
Speaker 4: the biopharmaceutical complex with my special guests in thegative journalist
Speaker 4: and author John Leek. Thank you very much for this
Speaker 4: interview and welcome back to the program. John Leek, thank
Speaker 4: you for having me. Dan, thank you so much, and
Speaker 4: congratulations on this incredible book.
Speaker 6: Well, I appreciate the compliment. I worked on it for
Speaker 6: I don't know two and a half years and a
Speaker 6: lot of research and contemplation, so I appreciate your your
Speaker 6: interest in it.
Speaker 2: As you're doing the book.
Speaker 4: In the prologue, you set the stage for this very
Speaker 4: important story contained in this book. October nineteenth, twenty nineteen,
Speaker 4: John Hopkins Center for Public Security, in collaboration with the
Speaker 4: Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and the World Economic Forum,
Speaker 4: conducted a pandemic simulation exercise they called Event two oh one.
Speaker 4: Tell us about this simulation on October nineteen, two thousand
Speaker 4: and nine. What disease did they feature? Tell us the
Speaker 4: details of what was conducted well this.
Speaker 6: Event at Johns Hopkins in collaboration with the Bill and
Speaker 6: Melinda Gates Foundation in the World Economic Forum. It was
Speaker 6: just the latest in a series of what they call
Speaker 6: pandemic simulations, this one in October nineteenth of twenty nineteen
Speaker 6: event to one two oh one, referring to at any
Speaker 6: given time, you know, over the course of a year
Speaker 6: or two, you might have two hundred potentially infectious diseases emerging,
Speaker 6: but number two oh one is the one that is
Speaker 6: infectious and contagious amongst humans. So this idea that well,
Speaker 6: you know, we're preparing for this thing, that it's not
Speaker 6: a matter of if it's just a matter of when
Speaker 6: we are going to get a fully contagious respiratory viral epidemic.
Speaker 6: It's coming, and so this was just the latest. The timing,
Speaker 6: of course, is quite interesting. I mean, we know now
Speaker 6: that the stars CoV two, the causative agent of COVID
Speaker 6: nineteen illness, was already circulating in Wuhan, China at this time.
Speaker 6: And we also know that one of the participants in
Speaker 6: event to A one was the Chinese, the Chinese equivalent
Speaker 6: of the head of our CDC, a guy I'm not
Speaker 6: sure if I'm pronouncing his name properly, doctor gal Gao.
Speaker 6: So you've got the Chinese counterpart of the CDC. There
Speaker 6: he is an event to A one and while supp
Speaker 6: I'm surprised a coronavirus is actually already circulating in Luhan
Speaker 6: at this time, the simulation imagines this scenario in which
Speaker 6: a coronavirus pandemic kicks off. In this simulation, it kicks
Speaker 6: off in Brazil, I perceive. I'll just jump right in
Speaker 6: and say, I perceive that to be a little bit
Speaker 6: of misdirection. The as had already been determined, the next
Speaker 6: likely coronavirus pandemic would in fact come out of China
Speaker 6: because SARS Kobe one came out of China in two
Speaker 6: thousand and two, in two thousand and three, So Brazil's
Speaker 6: kind of an interesting in my opinion, in my estimation,
Speaker 6: a bit of misdirection, but anyway, and out of control
Speaker 6: coronavirus they give it the nickname caps. Caps is raging
Speaker 6: around the world. And in the pandemic simulation, what is
Speaker 6: the medical establishment, the public health agencies in Washington, and
Speaker 6: the media establishment, how are they to respond to this pandemic?
Speaker 6: So that's the simulation. You can still watch the videos
Speaker 6: they're still published online of event two to one, and
Speaker 6: it is uncanny in its prescience that we're to believe
Speaker 6: that no one had any idea this was actually already happening.
Speaker 4: I think what was the most fascinating part of that,
Speaker 4: as you write, was that the predictions on how the
Speaker 4: public would react and how the media would react again
Speaker 4: very very prescient in that prediction.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, there is a long standing methodology of
Speaker 6: propaganda of shaping public opinion, of throttling information that would
Speaker 6: be you know, possibly distract the public or take the
Speaker 6: public away from the orthodox narrative that is being propagated.
Speaker 6: So these guys actually talk about some of these propaganda techniques.
Speaker 6: One of the ones that is specifically mentioned is an
Speaker 6: old propaganda technique called flooding the zone, which is simultaneously
Speaker 6: over multiple media channels broadcasting the identical message. And there
Speaker 6: are multiple examples that I document as the true story
Speaker 6: unfolds of the COVID nineteen pandemic of extraordinary examples of
Speaker 6: flooding the zone. So all of this is discussed, all
Speaker 6: of it's contemplated. I think the one thing an event
Speaker 6: to a one that the script was a little bit
Speaker 6: changed up when it came to the actual pandemic A
Speaker 6: few months later is that event too one does the
Speaker 6: panel participants, They do acknowledge that, yes, it would be
Speaker 6: valuable to have a vaccine and to get it up
Speaker 6: and running as quickly as possible. Nevertheless, some of the
Speaker 6: main participants say, but in the early days of the pandemic,
Speaker 6: as people are getting sick, it will be necessary to
Speaker 6: treat them. So, you know, we're going to have to
Speaker 6: look at the pharmacopeia of available drugs, drugs that are
Speaker 6: already available that are known to have a safety, a
Speaker 6: good safety profile, and we're going to have to find
Speaker 6: one that could help people, that could at least provide
Speaker 6: maybe not a silver bullet, but that could reduce the
Speaker 6: severity of symptoms. When we see the actual pandemic arrive
Speaker 6: a few months later, we see that the entire concept
Speaker 6: of early treatment is systematically suppressed in favor of the
Speaker 6: mass vaccination solution or purported solution. That is to say,
Speaker 6: in the simulation, there is a recognition that early treatment
Speaker 6: will be necessary because it could take quite some time
Speaker 6: to develop a safe and effective vaccine, possibly two or
Speaker 6: three years, So we're going to have to find ways
Speaker 6: to treat people. When we have the actual pandemic it's
Speaker 6: the exact opposite the messages. There is no treatment. Somehow
Speaker 6: we already know that, which is an interesting question. How
Speaker 6: could you already know that there is no treatment, given
Speaker 6: it's a novel infectious agent. But anyway, that gets into
Speaker 6: the theme of our book. Why were early treatment modalities suppressed?
Speaker 6: That's the central question of the book.
Speaker 4: Now give our audience your formal education and background, and
Speaker 4: also your background as an author and nonfiction author as
Speaker 4: well a true crime author and nonfiction author. Pardon me,
Speaker 4: but also how you found out about Peter McCullough, Doctor
Speaker 4: Peter McCullough, and how you made the decision. Tell us
Speaker 4: about the decision to write a book with doctor McCullough.
Speaker 6: Well, my formal education is in history and philosophy. I
Speaker 6: have a master's degree in philosophy. But I grew up
Speaker 6: and a very literate household. My grandfather, he's technically my
Speaker 6: step grand he was my grand mom. My grandmother's second
Speaker 6: husband was a Harvard trained doctor that had a huge
Speaker 6: library of books on medical history. I just got fascinated
Speaker 6: by medical history when I was pretty young, I mean
Speaker 6: an early teenager. My grandparents lived in the country and
Speaker 6: i'd go spend weeks at a time, and I would
Speaker 6: talk to my grandfather about medical history, and so that
Speaker 6: was kind of a childhood fascination. I went to Vienna,
Speaker 6: Austria on a graduate school scholarship to study philosophy. While
Speaker 6: I was in the city Vienna, I stumbled across a
Speaker 6: true crime story about an Austrian serial killer.
Speaker 2: There was a twist.
Speaker 6: He wasn't only a serial killer, he was also a
Speaker 6: fairly famous author and journalist. His name was Jack Untwager,
Speaker 6: and the remarkable twist in the story is when these
Speaker 6: women started disappearing from the Vienna red light district and
Speaker 6: turning up dead in the Vienna Woods. It was this
Speaker 6: subject of my book, Jack Untveger is his name. He
Speaker 6: actually became a kind of lead reporter for Austrian National
Speaker 6: Radio reporting on the unknown undetected serial killer. So it
Speaker 6: was a rather remarkable story of a guy reporting on
Speaker 6: his own crimes. He actually interviewed the chief of police
Speaker 6: and the friends of the murdered women, and he really
Speaker 6: went deep anyway, he was ultimately exposed as being the killer.
Speaker 6: But while I was researching that book, I got to
Speaker 6: be friends with the pathologist at the Vienna Institute of
Speaker 6: forensic medicine, and I served as her translator for a
Speaker 6: while from German into English. I just grew really fascinated,
Speaker 6: or became fascinated in forensic medicine. You know, how do
Speaker 6: forensic doctors are in the case of the US jurisdiction
Speaker 6: medical examiners, You know, how do they ascertain how we
Speaker 6: die and why do we die? So I became adept
Speaker 6: at reading medical literature, and I became interested in epidemiology
Speaker 6: and this whole area of science and knowledge. And so
Speaker 6: at the beginning of twenty twenty, when we got the
Speaker 6: first reports of SARS kobe Ie emanating from China then
Speaker 6: spread to Milan, Italy, I spent quite a bit of
Speaker 6: time in Italy, and I'm very interested in Italian culture,
Speaker 6: and so I was paying pretty close attention to the
Speaker 6: reporting out of Milan. And then, you know, I just
Speaker 6: began to think a lot of what we're being told
Speaker 6: by our public health officials just doesn't really add up
Speaker 6: to me. I began to suspect that there are distinct
Speaker 6: elements of distorted reality, even elements of fraud. And I know,
Speaker 6: as a true crime author that you know, all crime
Speaker 6: contains elements of fraud of distorting reality deception, and so
Speaker 6: I began researching what was going on, reading different reports
Speaker 6: from all over the world, and I decided, this looks
Speaker 6: like an organized crime story.
Speaker 2: In the making.
Speaker 6: But I knew I needed an expert scientific medical witness
Speaker 6: to help me to evaluate a lot of the technical
Speaker 6: aspects of what we were seeing, and so I began
Speaker 6: searching for My criteria were a high ranking academic medical doctor,
Speaker 6: one who has a publishing resume what separates the men
Speaker 6: from the boys in academic medicine as you're publishing resume, right,
Speaker 6: and preferably one who's also treating patients who has a
Speaker 6: clinical practice. And then my final criterion was he would
Speaker 6: also have to be a guy who is critically evaluating
Speaker 6: the orthodoxy coming out of Washington. That is to say,
Speaker 6: the NIH Health and Human Services, Like, what we're looking
Speaker 6: at is a federal public health apparatus that is telling
Speaker 6: us what's going on. I was skeptical a lot of
Speaker 6: a lot of their claims. I wanted to find a
Speaker 6: doctor who was also skeptical of the orthodoxy at the time.
Speaker 6: And my first question is, well, we're im gonna find
Speaker 6: this guy. He's kind of a unicorn. And then through
Speaker 6: some twists and turns that I document in the book,
Speaker 6: I discovered that doctor Peter McCullough lived about a mile
Speaker 6: from me in Dallas. I contacted him. We met for
Speaker 6: an interview, beautiful in studio, interviewed, beautifully, photographed, and miked.
Speaker 6: I posted it on YouTube and it was censored about
Speaker 6: three hours later. Well, so that's when I realized, boy,
Speaker 6: we're in the middle of something really, really big here,
Speaker 6: and it is completely inimical to the spirit of the
Speaker 6: US Constitution in the first Amendment.
Speaker 4: Let's talk about what Peter McCullough. Doctor McCullough found out.
Speaker 4: But from the early reports from France, South Korea, and
Speaker 4: China and India about hydroxyl chloroquin and the research being
Speaker 4: done in terms of treatment for COVID nineteen, well, you know.
Speaker 6: Going back to that pandemic twoh one, they explicitly say,
Speaker 6: you know, we're gonna have to scramble because it's going
Speaker 6: to take a while to develop a safe and effective vaccine,
Speaker 6: if that's even possible, that's an unknown, but we're gonna
Speaker 6: need to scramble to find drugs that have a known
Speaker 6: safety profile that could be used to treat this, so
Speaker 6: that actually was understood to be a normal procedure. Like again,
Speaker 6: look at the pharmacopeia, you know, look at safe drugs
Speaker 6: that are known to have a safe profile, probably ones
Speaker 6: that have been used by humanity for decades. Then you
Speaker 6: know it has a good safety profile. So you had independent,
Speaker 6: cre creative thinking doctors to immediately start looking for anything
Speaker 6: that could be used to treat this. And I want
Speaker 6: to say this is important. You know, a lot of
Speaker 6: medicine isn't necessarily a silver bullet. I mean, penicillin was
Speaker 6: a miracle drug because you would take a staffle of
Speaker 6: cockle infection that was dangerous, or a syphilis infection, things
Speaker 6: that were just scourges of mankind for centuries, and penicillin
Speaker 6: would just blast it. I mean you're talking like two
Speaker 6: days later you're feeling better. But there aren't that many
Speaker 6: miracle drugs like penicillin. A lot of drugs it's reduction
Speaker 6: of symptoms. It's just helping the patient to get through
Speaker 6: the syndrome so that he doesn't have to go to
Speaker 6: hospital and doesn't die. So that's what the the good
Speaker 6: doctors were looking for. And there's a guy in Marseille
Speaker 6: France named Dde Rault, and he is I think the
Speaker 6: most the most published microbiologist on Earth. In the year
Speaker 6: nineteen ninety, if my memory serves, he came up with
Speaker 6: a treatment for a very very dangerous I mean a
Speaker 6: very high high fatality rate illness called q fever. He
Speaker 6: Q fever. It's not very common, but if you get it,
Speaker 6: I mean it's like fifty percent curtains and Dde Rault
Speaker 6: and Marseille he discovered that you could treat Q fever
Speaker 6: with the combination of hydroxy chloroquine and I believe doxy cyclinge.
Speaker 6: And it works, and it became and it remains today
Speaker 6: the standard treatment for Q fever. I think Raoul has
Speaker 6: personally discovered several hundred species of bacteria, and he's also
Speaker 6: credited with discovering the giant virus. Well, a species of
Speaker 6: giant virus which I think had previously been perceived to
Speaker 6: be some other organism. Raoul proved that it was a virus.
Speaker 6: So this is an imminent infectious disease biologist and treating physician.
Speaker 6: He's a member of the Legion of Honor, and so
Speaker 6: DDA Raoul starts looking at the literature. He sees that
Speaker 6: there is a published literature including NIH scientists in the
Speaker 6: United States who discovered that the old mallarial drug also
Speaker 6: used for rheumatoid arthritis and lupus, hydroxychloroquin had anti viral
Speaker 6: and anti inflammatory efficacy against SARS covy ie, which was
Speaker 6: genetically pretty close to SARS CoV two. So Ryold says,
Speaker 6: all right, hydroxychloroquin great safety profile, billions of doses taken
Speaker 6: and tolerated for a variety of illnesses, FDA approved, approved
Speaker 6: over the counter in France. It's actually an over the
Speaker 6: counter agent. So he's like, let's give it a shot.
Speaker 6: The amazing thing is immediately immediately upon his announcement, and
Speaker 6: there's no one in the entire country of France better
Speaker 6: equipped to evaluate this than Professor Rold. Immediately upon announcing
Speaker 6: that hydroxy chloroquin combined with the zythromycin seems to have
Speaker 6: pretty good efficacy, especially when administered early, he's massively censured
Speaker 6: and censored immediately. It's like no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 6: That Imagine you're at a cocktail party and you tell
Speaker 6: someone a true story, and before you even get halfway
Speaker 6: into it, the guy starts waving his hands in your
Speaker 6: face and saying no way, no way, don't tell that story.
Speaker 6: Very very suspicious. And so Peter mccaullay catches wind of DDA.
Speaker 6: Raoults work in Marseille and he begins to think, as well,
Speaker 6: like what's going on here? Like this is a perfectly
Speaker 6: safe drug. Why are we suddenly being told it's dangerous.
Speaker 6: When doctor McCollough worked at a hospital in Seattle, he
Speaker 6: routinely prescribed hydroxychloroquin p rheumatoid arthritis, So, like, what is
Speaker 6: going on here? And you know that is a kind
Speaker 6: of a key opening chapter in the book, recounting Professor
Speaker 6: Raowlds adventures in France trying to treat patients, trying to
Speaker 6: prevent them and succeeding from having to go to hospital.
Speaker 4: Let's talk about remdesovir and who has interest in this
Speaker 4: drug being successful in the marketplace and its relationship in
Speaker 4: comparison to hydroxachloroquin.
Speaker 6: Remdesevir was an experimental drug developed by a biotech company
Speaker 6: in San Francisco. Who ah, whose name is suddenly slipping me,
Speaker 6: but I'll remember it. The company in San Francisco worked
Speaker 6: closely with the head of the Niai d Anthony Fauci
Speaker 6: to develop remdesevir. They had initially thought it would be
Speaker 6: a useful drug for treating ebola with doctor Fauci's you know,
Speaker 6: NIH assistance. They did some trials of this drug, remdesevir,
Speaker 6: in an ebola outbreak in Africa. They found that it
Speaker 6: didn't work, and in fact, the experimental group that received
Speaker 6: it had a considerably higher fatality rate than the control
Speaker 6: group who didn't, So it was an utter failure. Gilead
Speaker 6: Gilead pharmaceutical company, isn't it Gilead Sciences, That's the company
Speaker 6: that developed remdesevir. So it was it was an abysmal failure,
Speaker 6: and it's Ebela trials. It's kind of back to the
Speaker 6: drawing board. They tried it with Zeka as well. Again
Speaker 6: the trials didn't work, an abject failure against Zika. But
Speaker 6: then you know, if it doesn't work, just keep trying.
Speaker 6: So with SARS Covid two, they decided to try remdesevir
Speaker 6: against SARS. I go into it's quite a bit of
Speaker 6: technical detail about the trial data in the book. It's
Speaker 6: clear that remdesevir has zero efficacy against SARS Kobe two.
Speaker 6: Even the who which tends to go and lockstep with
Speaker 6: the NIH, even the who issued a viso in October
Speaker 6: of twenty twenty saying don't use remdesevir. There's no indication
Speaker 6: that it works, and secondly, there are indications that it
Speaker 6: causes kidney damage. Nevertheless, Anthony Fauci and his friends at
Speaker 6: Gilead and Bill Gates, who is a Gilead shareholder, they
Speaker 6: did succeed in persuading the Health and Human Services and
Speaker 6: the CDC and the FDA to get behind remdesevir as
Speaker 6: the and this is quite a notable detail for people
Speaker 6: who study medicine. It became remdesevir became the standard of
Speaker 6: care for gravely ill hospitalized patients with COVID nineteen. So
Speaker 6: I appreciate this is a bit technical, but it was
Speaker 6: already well understood that with a viral respiratory viral illness,
Speaker 6: it usually proceeds in three stages. The first stage is
Speaker 6: the viral replication phase. The virus is rapidly replicating in
Speaker 6: the upper respiratory tract. Stage two, you get into a
Speaker 6: pulmonary difficulty. The patient finds it difficult to breathe. That
Speaker 6: difficulty of breathing and accompanied anxiety will oftentimes prompt them
Speaker 6: to go to hospital. That's stage two of the illness.
Speaker 6: By the time you get to stage two, the early
Speaker 6: viral replication phase has ended. It has long been understood
Speaker 6: that if you are trying to stop a viral disease
Speaker 6: in its tracks by using an anti viral agent, you
Speaker 6: administer it early during the early viral replication phase. Take
Speaker 6: a look at tamiflu, an anti viral for influenza. The
Speaker 6: indication is start as early as possible. So why the
Speaker 6: fuck are they issuing? Are they administering this for gravely
Speaker 6: ill patients in hospital who are actually using supplementary oxygen.
Speaker 6: It just makes no sense whatsoever. Nothing, and I carefully
Speaker 6: document this in and my book. Nothing about the remdesevie
Speaker 6: protocol makes sense, not one element of it. Now, what
Speaker 6: does make sense from a moneymaking standpoint is these gangsters
Speaker 6: succeeded in persuading Health and Human Services, Medicare and Medicaid
Speaker 6: to give hospitals a twenty percent bonus on the patient's
Speaker 6: entire hospital bill if the hospital administered remdesevir. So that
Speaker 6: is a perverse incentive. We're saying, we will pay you
Speaker 6: a twenty percent bonus on the entire hospital bill if
Speaker 6: you administer this emergency authorized use product with an abysmal
Speaker 6: safety record, even the WHO does not recommend it, if
Speaker 6: you had been this to your gravely ill hospitalized patients.
Speaker 6: And I've interviewed multiple nurses who've told me that with
Speaker 6: a patient in those circumstances, on about day two after
Speaker 6: administering rendesevir, the urine output starts to decrease, and clear
Speaker 6: signs in the blood panel of kidney damage of impaired
Speaker 6: kidney function begin to manifest. So why are they administering
Speaker 6: this in hospital?
Speaker 4: You asked the question why, but also at the same
Speaker 4: time by criticizing hydroxylchloroquin calling it irreversible retinal damage and
Speaker 4: dangerous heart arrhythmias, which is ironic at the same time
Speaker 4: praising as daribl as a as the only option.
Speaker 6: Just just stop and consider this. So hyerroxychloroicuine was approves
Speaker 6: by the FDA for indications with malaria, off label uses
Speaker 6: for rheumatoid arthritis and lupus in the fifties. Okay, so
Speaker 6: for decades billions of doses of this. You know who
Speaker 6: who called bullshit on this idea that it causes retinal damage.
Speaker 6: It was ophthalmologists. They are the first guys to say, what, like,
Speaker 6: what on earth is our media talking about? Because ophthalmologists
Speaker 6: will see people will come to the ophtalmologist with a pigmentation.
Speaker 6: It is a damage of the retina. After taking daily
Speaker 6: doses of hydroxychloroquine for over a decade. Over a decade,
Speaker 6: you start to see retinal damage. Okay, that's daily doses
Speaker 6: of this rheumatoid arthritis for ten years. What Professor Dida
Speaker 6: Rell was recommending his hydroxychloricine protocol five days. So this
Speaker 6: is just a lie, and I'm sorry, you know it's funny.
Speaker 6: I'm now thinking about this book I wrote it two
Speaker 6: years ago. Just all of this is just it's just
Speaker 6: absolutely infuriating, and our mainstream media just happily parrots these
Speaker 6: these utter, perfidious lies.
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Speaker 2: Now let's get to the players that enabled all of this.
Speaker 4: Someone as we responsible, and someone certainly some players are
Speaker 4: more responsible.
Speaker 2: You talk about doctor Bright and doctor Fauci.
Speaker 4: October twenty nine, twenty nineteen, discussing a need for a
Speaker 4: universal flu vaccine, and they talked about touted new biotechnological tools.
Speaker 4: Now fast forward to twenty twenty and what is doctor
Speaker 4: Fauci doing and what is he declaring while at the
Speaker 4: same time criticizing hydroxychloroquin and saying that it could be
Speaker 4: damaging and harmful and as a result, doctors and hospitals
Speaker 4: are recommended to not do anything involving hydroxychloroquin.
Speaker 6: So Rick Bright was the head of BARTA. It's a
Speaker 6: division of the Department of Health and Human Services of
Speaker 6: acronym BARTA Advanced Research something anyway, BARTA as a research
Speaker 6: division of Health and Human Services. Rick Bright was the
Speaker 6: head of it. He and Tony Founci were talking about
Speaker 6: the need to at Milken University in California. They were
Speaker 6: talking about the need to develop the next generation of
Speaker 6: influenza vaccine and they lament that the current technology for
Speaker 6: this upper respiratory tract viral infection goes back to the fifties.
Speaker 6: We need a new generation of vaccines against respiratory tract
Speaker 6: viral infections that could be rapidly developed and when they
Speaker 6: do make Rick Bright and particular references adenta viral and
Speaker 6: messenger RNA vaccine technology, which was still, you know, being developed.
Speaker 6: It was kind of an enticing interesting idea had been
Speaker 6: on the shelves of research and design departments for years,
Speaker 6: but no one had actually developed a vaccine on that
Speaker 6: platform in spite of an interest in doing so. So
Speaker 6: they say, well, you know, the next pandemic, you know this,
Speaker 6: this would be an opportunity to catapult forward this next
Speaker 6: generation of vaccine technology. Fast forward three months, again, amazing prescience,
Speaker 6: these guys talking about this while SARS Kobe two is
Speaker 6: circulating in Wuhan. Fast forward, you know, three months Anthony
Speaker 6: Vuci announces that, well, you know, the niai D National
Speaker 6: Institute of Allergy Infectious Diseases. Turns out we've been co
Speaker 6: developing a vaccine, a messenger RNA vaccine with Moderna, a
Speaker 6: biotech company in Cambridge, Massachusetts, never had a licensed pharmaceutical
Speaker 6: product ever, was developed with a Department of Defense grant.
Speaker 6: Their working capital was all came from initially from the
Speaker 6: Department of Defense. Turns out NIAID and Moderna have been
Speaker 6: working on a messenger RNA vaccine and they've got the
Speaker 6: prototype up and running with generous funding from the Gates Foundation.
Speaker 6: And a special note is a Gates Foundation World Economic
Speaker 6: Forum offshoot called SEPI, the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness and Innovations.
Speaker 6: A new institution announced that the World Economic Forums January
Speaker 6: twenty seventeen Annual Meeting in Dava, Switzerland. So SEPI is
Speaker 6: in the business of rapid vaccine development. So SEPI is,
Speaker 6: I believe in the press release providing the funding for
Speaker 6: the human clinical trial of this new mRNA vaccine. So
Speaker 6: Rick Bright Fauci's crony. At the same time that Faunci
Speaker 6: announces this new mRNA prototype vaccine for COVID two for
Speaker 6: COVID nineteen, Rick Bright gives a I believe it was
Speaker 6: a five hundred million dollars grant to accelerate the development
Speaker 6: at MODERNA. At the same time, Rick Bright is lobbying
Speaker 6: the FDA to restrict the availability of hydroxy chloroquine as
Speaker 6: an early treatment protocol. So it's clear the paper trail,
Speaker 6: the press releases, the press interviews, Rick Bright is suppressing
Speaker 6: hydroxy chlor while promoting the mRNA vaccine. At one and
Speaker 6: the same time smear the early treatment modality while promoting
Speaker 6: and financing the vaccine solution. Now here's where I want
Speaker 6: to add something. The vaccine cannot treat someone who's already sick.
Speaker 6: It's not a treatment modality, right, it is a immunological modality.
Speaker 6: The idea of a vaccine is to prevent you from
Speaker 6: getting the infection. It can't treat you if you already
Speaker 6: have it. So when Bright is out suppressing hydroxychloroquine, making
Speaker 6: it unavailable in New York state pharmacies, that means that
Speaker 6: people who are already sick with COVID can't get it,
Speaker 6: even though there's no vaccine available to have prevented them
Speaker 6: from getting the illness. They're already sick with it. So
Speaker 6: this is just sick, I mean the whole thing. Here's
Speaker 6: the problem with this story. It's so preposterous and so
Speaker 6: perfidious that people can't believe it. I mean, my book
Speaker 6: with doctor McCullough is, we have over three hundred citations.
Speaker 6: There's not a single statement in the book that is
Speaker 6: not fully supportable by public documents and records, and yet
Speaker 6: it's hard for people to comprehend.
Speaker 4: Let's talk about you write about the Courage to Face
Speaker 4: COVID nineteen and you say courage is that trait that's
Speaker 4: very very important here. And we get back to doctor
Speaker 4: McCullough and his protocol and what he's doing to save
Speaker 4: patients and even people's own families were were inflicted with
Speaker 4: this COVID nineteen. So it becomes a dire and important
Speaker 4: issue for everyone. And so you talk about what exactly
Speaker 4: was done instead of those that protocol, that protocol wasn't accepted,
Speaker 4: but tell us more about the fight for doctor McCullough
Speaker 4: to get and save patients.
Speaker 6: Well, what's fascinating about doctor McCollough is he had it's
Speaker 6: his discovery that in many ways he was a naive man.
Speaker 6: When he starts reading the reports of this, he just
Speaker 6: immediately assumes that my hippocratic oath demands that I try
Speaker 6: my very best, to the best of my ability and
Speaker 6: judgment to quote the Hippocratic oath, to help my patients.
Speaker 6: And look, I mean the you know, the game is on.
Speaker 6: You know we're in the ring. You know you can't
Speaker 6: say you know, I can't try. No, You've got to fight.
Speaker 6: You've got to do something, find a solution, do the
Speaker 6: best you can. That's what he thought he was obliged
Speaker 6: to do. Pursue it to his hippocratic oath. He starts
Speaker 6: treating patients. Initially, it's a combination of hydroxychloroquin zithromyacin. He
Speaker 6: realizes quickly talking to the nephrologist at his hospital, that
Speaker 6: the kidneys and and the kidneys are for some reason clotting. There's, there's,
Speaker 6: there's and the dialysis lines that are actually seeing clotting
Speaker 6: in the lines. It's like, why is why is this
Speaker 6: this illness causing blood clotting? And so he thinks, well, clearly,
Speaker 6: whatever this disease is, it's it's thrombotic. It causes clotting.
Speaker 6: So he's like, well, let's use blood thinners. Let's use
Speaker 6: extra strength aspirin and other blood thinners. And then in
Speaker 6: terms of pulmonary inflammation, well, for fifty years we've used
Speaker 6: methyl predness alone. It's it's a steroid that is used
Speaker 6: to treat lung inflammation. So we'll use methyl predness alone
Speaker 6: FDA approved, been around forever standard of care for lung inflammation.
Speaker 6: And he is astonished when the hospital, you know, pursuant
Speaker 6: to directives from the NIH, says no, you can't use
Speaker 6: methyl predness alone for pulmonary inflammation. You can't use antithrombotics
Speaker 6: blood thinners for this clotting. And he says, well, like,
Speaker 6: why not. That's how we've always treated pulmonary inflammation and
Speaker 6: excessive clotting or thrombosis. So he's just stunned. It's it's like, well,
Speaker 6: what do you like, What on earth are you talking about.
Speaker 6: We've used these drugs for decades. So in many ways,
Speaker 6: the story is doctor mccaully McCullough's journey. It's a sort
Speaker 6: of hero's journey from naivete to the discovery that our
Speaker 6: our modern biopharmaceutical medical complex was against treating patients and
Speaker 6: I repeat, opposed to treating patients in the early phase
Speaker 6: of the illness in order to keep them out of hospital.
Speaker 6: So and and the consequences for doing so we're grave.
Speaker 6: So I track doctor McCullough's the the onset of persecution.
Speaker 6: He's invited to give senate testimony on early treatment on
Speaker 6: the nineteenth, twenty twenty, and shortly after his testimony, he
Speaker 6: starts receiving notices from hospital attorneys telling him to shut up.
Speaker 6: He's shortly thereafter fired from his hospital. He's shortly thereafter
Speaker 6: sued by his hospital, and it's just one thing after another.
Speaker 6: His professorships at three universities are revoked, his editorial positions
Speaker 6: at multiple academic journals are revoked. Just the knives come
Speaker 6: out for him, and why because he treated his patients
Speaker 6: with FDA approved repurpose drugs.
Speaker 4: Let's talk about some of the players that have this
Speaker 4: incredible vested interest. We haven't mentioned Bill Gates, Anthony Fauci,
Speaker 4: but also NIHIAID as well. Who holds these patents and
Speaker 4: who would prop it the most from these patents.
Speaker 6: The NIAI D had a co ownership entitling, so this
Speaker 6: is Anthony Fauci's division of the National Institutes of Health
Speaker 6: held a co licensing agreement on the MODERNA vaccine m
Speaker 6: r NA vaccine. So Fauci's saying, you know, we don't
Speaker 6: you know, we don't believe hydroxy chloroquine works. You know,
Speaker 6: we're going with the vaccine solution. He has an economic
Speaker 6: interest in that. So the the evidence is clear that
Speaker 6: Fauci has conflict of interest because he he stands to
Speaker 6: receive an economic benefit from this monolithic vaccine solution, you know, MODERNA.
Speaker 6: Stefon Bonsel, the French CEO of Maderna. You know, he
Speaker 6: becomes a multi billionaire in the space of a year.
Speaker 6: I mean, a lot of guys got really, really rich
Speaker 6: with this pandemic response. There's a lot of them, Bill
Speaker 6: Gates announced at the January meeting of the World Economic
Speaker 6: Forum annual meeting in Davas. He told The Wall Street
Speaker 6: Journal and Betty Quick with squawk Box he said vaccines
Speaker 6: are by far my greatest investment. I mean, we've had
Speaker 6: a twenty twenty x return on our investments in vaccines.
Speaker 6: So he just is openly saying this is the greatest
Speaker 6: business model ever, like better than software. Again, it's so
Speaker 6: out in the open that this is an industrial complex
Speaker 6: with deep, deep economic interests and not to mention interests
Speaker 6: of power and control and augmenting power and control. These
Speaker 6: guys just plainly stated. But because it's couched in this
Speaker 6: language of philanthropy we care about humanity, people can't see it.
Speaker 6: They can't see the ruthless self interest in this complex.
Speaker 6: Now that titled our subtitle Battling the Biopharmaceutical Complex, it's
Speaker 6: the subtitle of the book. That title or subtitle derives
Speaker 6: from President Eisenhower's farewell address in nineteen fifty nine in
Speaker 6: which President Eisenhower warned the American people about the undue
Speaker 6: influence of the military industrial complex. It's getting too This
Speaker 6: complex of defense industry, Department of Defense, and the public
Speaker 6: treasury is getting way too much power, and it's a
Speaker 6: threat to our democratic processes. So that was Eisenhower that
Speaker 6: issued that warning. He was a Supreme Allied commander, so
Speaker 6: he's hardly an enemy of the military. But he saw
Speaker 6: this and he was frightened of it, and he warned
Speaker 6: the American people. This biopharmaceutical complex is just an outgrowth
Speaker 6: of the military industrial complex. A lot of the grants
Speaker 6: for these vaccine developments comes from the Department of Defense.
Speaker 4: Let Jesus as an opportunity to stop to hear these messages.
Speaker 4: You talk about the comparison with the pharmaceutical biopharmaceutical industry
Speaker 4: and its similarity to the military industrial complex. Just like
Speaker 4: the military industrial complex is involved in every aspect of politics,
Speaker 4: and it's very political, political sized. Tell us about how
Speaker 4: this was also involved in politics in such a great way.
Speaker 6: Well, what enabled this whole disaster fiasco to happen is
Speaker 6: in two thousand and five, it was during the Bush administration.
Speaker 6: There was this purported anthrax attack on a federal facility
Speaker 6: in Washington. So this idea that you know, it's not
Speaker 6: going to be scud missiles that hit the American mainland.
Speaker 6: We have two huge oceans on both sides, the biggest
Speaker 6: navy in the world, so we don't have to worry
Speaker 6: about armed men invading the country. What we need to
Speaker 6: worry about are infectious disease pathogens. So Congress passes what's
Speaker 6: called the prep Act Preparation for Infectious Disease Pandemics. And
Speaker 6: what is presented in this piece of legislation is the following.
Speaker 6: So there could be bio weapons, are naturally emerging infectious
Speaker 6: diseases that come to the American mainland. Congress and the
Speaker 6: government has to be equiped to deal with this public
Speaker 6: health emergency, very similar to a military invasion like Pearl Harbor. Okay,
Speaker 6: So how do we do this? Well, if we're invaded
Speaker 6: by an infectious disease or a biological weapons attack, Health
Speaker 6: and Human Services can declare a public emergency. When that
Speaker 6: public emergency is declared, anyone who is an authorized manufacturer
Speaker 6: or provider what are called counter measures counter measures. Okay,
Speaker 6: So that comes from military science the enemy moving. The
Speaker 6: countermeasure is some way to counter the enemy. So pursuant
Speaker 6: to Health and Human Services the prep Act, anyone who's
Speaker 6: in the business of making a countermeasure to defeat this
Speaker 6: invading infectious disease enemy, their products receive liability, the protection,
Speaker 6: and because it's a countermeasure during a public health emergency,
Speaker 6: the government pays for the product. So you're sophisticated, you know,
Speaker 6: listeners will probably recognize that this is a nice setup,
Speaker 6: a nice work if you can get it. So infectious
Speaker 6: disease or bioweapons attack. I'm in the business of making
Speaker 6: some bullshit experimental vaccine that doesn't work, but it's an emergency.
Speaker 6: Desperate times called for desperate measures. The government will pay
Speaker 6: you tens of billions, if not hundreds of billions for
Speaker 6: your countermeasure and absolve you from liability if anyone.
Speaker 2: Is hurt by it. So tell us.
Speaker 4: Obviously the political fight that is that you chronicle in
Speaker 4: this book as well. It seemed you're right that it
Speaker 4: seems that just because President Trump said that hydroxylchloric when
Speaker 4: was effective, that a good part of the population thought
Speaker 4: we have to do the opposite. And this person has
Speaker 4: no credibility. And you say that there was a financial
Speaker 4: motive obviously for the pharmaceutical biopharmaceutical complex to be able
Speaker 4: to influence the political situation, the political reality, but also
Speaker 4: in terms of advertising on mainstream media.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so Trump is just citinga people don't realize this.
Speaker 6: He's just citing the most published infectious disease biologist on Earth,
Speaker 6: a paper that d Da Raowl had just published the
Speaker 6: day before. Someone in Trump's staff gave him a synopsis
Speaker 6: of Professor Rawl's study, and Trump said, sounds good. You see,
Speaker 6: half the country is suffering from a severe mental distortion
Speaker 6: or disturbance. I mean, it's probably safe to say, or
Speaker 6: fair to say Trump derangement syndrome. I mean, I don't.
Speaker 6: I've always thought that Trump's kind of a buffoon. But
Speaker 6: that doesn't mean just because you perceive a man to
Speaker 6: be have buffoonish tendencies, that doesn't mean that every single
Speaker 6: thing he says is automatically false. In this case, he
Speaker 6: was citing the most published infectious disease biologists, microbiologists you know,
Speaker 6: in Europe, if not the world. But because Trump delivered
Speaker 6: the message, you know, half the country categorically assumes that
Speaker 6: it can't be true. Of all of the things that
Speaker 6: I document in the book, this is probably the single stupidest. Okay,
Speaker 6: So at the exact same time that Trump says this,
Speaker 6: or I should say that, at the White House Press
Speaker 6: brief for the next day, all of these journalists have
Speaker 6: now come with the exact same script. You know that
Speaker 6: hydroxy chloroquine. You know, you have no scientific basis for
Speaker 6: saying this, YadA, YadA, YadA. They've all obviously just received
Speaker 6: this the same script. So Trump is saying, well, look,
Speaker 6: I mean, it's perfectly safe, it's not going to hurt anybody.
Speaker 6: What else are you offering? The next day, the Washington Post,
Speaker 6: which is known to be an organ of our intelligence
Speaker 6: agencies in Washington, says Trump's crazy for proposing this. What
Speaker 6: we really need, what the real scientists are focusing on,
Speaker 6: is this new vaccine that moderna in the niaidea is
Speaker 6: getting up and running. So you see all of this happening.
Speaker 6: It's very clear if you're paying attention, if you understand
Speaker 6: how to read and analyze this, it's it's very it's
Speaker 6: it's child's play to see through.
Speaker 4: All of this.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, I'm speaking in a rather vehement way, But
Speaker 6: this is child's play. The American people have just been
Speaker 6: subjected to so much propaganda that they can't see what's
Speaker 6: going on here. And then, you know, surprise, surprise, Anthony
Speaker 6: Falci himself knew all along. He published a paper in
Speaker 6: November twenty twenty two with two NIH colleagues in which
Speaker 6: they explicitly state acknowledge, you know, it's really hard to
Speaker 6: develop a vaccine against an upper respiratory tract infection. Why
Speaker 6: is that because the virus replicates in the nasal passage
Speaker 6: before it comes into contact with the primary immune system
Speaker 6: and the blood. So it's replicating in your nose, and
Speaker 6: you're expelling it from your nose, passing it on to
Speaker 6: others before it's challenged by the primary body's primary immune system.
Speaker 6: Now she knew that, he knew that this new vaccine
Speaker 6: that he's touting can't prevent infection and transmission. It can't.
Speaker 6: And what happened in the autumn of twenty twenty one,
Speaker 6: Rochelle Lensky, the CDC director, came out and admitted it
Speaker 6: can't prevent infection and transmission. All it can do, she claims, falsely,
Speaker 6: is reduced to severity of symptoms so this is all
Speaker 6: a lie. The whole thing, every element of this is
Speaker 6: a fraud. It's the greatest fraud ever permitted.
Speaker 4: Not only talking about fraud, you talk about that this
Speaker 4: is an example of a crime against humanity, and so
Speaker 4: there are people that are culpable for unnecessary death.
Speaker 6: Well, also, where did this infectious agent come from? It
Speaker 6: came from a laboratory collaboration between Professor Ralph Barrick at
Speaker 6: the University of North Carolina Chapel Hills, the world's foremost
Speaker 6: expert on coronaviruses, his collaboration with sheng Xi Lee, a biologist,
Speaker 6: a lead biologist at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. There's
Speaker 6: a massive paper trail explicitly stating that they're doing gain
Speaker 6: of function work on Batsar's coronaviruses at the Wuhan Institute
Speaker 6: of Virology. Now your readers are interested in crime.
Speaker 2: Okay, So.
Speaker 6: Somebody tells you there are bat caves in southern China
Speaker 6: over one thousand miles away from Wuhan, which is in
Speaker 6: a temperate climate. The first circulating cases of this flu
Speaker 6: like illness are in Wuhan, about four miles from the
Speaker 6: Wuhana Institute of virology. These caves of bats that contain
Speaker 6: bat coronaviruses are one thousand miles away. So where are
Speaker 6: you going to look for the origin of this infectious agent?
Speaker 6: Are you going to look in the Luhan Institute of Virology,
Speaker 6: which by its own publications, is performing gain of function
Speaker 6: work on bat coronaviruses to deliberately make them infectious to
Speaker 6: the human respiratory tract? Where do you think this came from? Yes,
Speaker 6: I mean, I know, you know you got to be
Speaker 6: a regular Colombo, I mean a a air cool Pla
Speaker 6: or Sherlock Holmes to figure this one out. It's so
Speaker 6: stupid that I can't even it. Just it just makes
Speaker 6: my head hurt. I mean, the paper trail on on
Speaker 6: the research that was being done that created this thing
Speaker 6: is so big that you know, if I just started
Speaker 6: rattling off the number of the papers, the research grants,
Speaker 6: just citing the titles, it would take me an hour.
Speaker 6: And yet how is it possible that this is still
Speaker 6: a matter of controversy in the mainstream media. I can't
Speaker 6: even imagine how that's possible. I'll tell you, I'll tell
Speaker 6: your your audience. One other thing, So the CEO of Moderna,
Speaker 6: the the vaccine developer in Cambridge, Massachusetts. Stefon Bonsell. Before
Speaker 6: he went to Maderna, he was the CEO of Bo Marieu,
Speaker 6: a French diagnostics company. In two thousand and three, Bo
Speaker 6: Marieu signed a cooperative agreement with China to develop a
Speaker 6: new BSL four lab in Wuhan, an annex to the
Speaker 6: Wuhan Institute of Virology. Bosel was the head of developing
Speaker 6: that new lab to study SARS, coronaviruses and other infectious
Speaker 6: diseases in Wuhan, Okay. In two thousand and he was
Speaker 6: overseeing personnel and staffing the lab in Luhan and so
Speaker 6: on and so forth. Twenty eleven he goes to bo
Speaker 6: excuse me, he goes to Maderna in Cambridge, Okay. In
Speaker 6: two thousand and sixteen, Key and Maderna filed a patent
Speaker 6: in the US Patent Office for a gene sequence. They
Speaker 6: got a patent on this particular gene C sequence Okay
Speaker 6: of a virus a viral gene sequence. In twenty twenty one,
Speaker 6: a molecular biology team in Holland in the Netherlands, they
Speaker 6: took the genome. The published genome of SARS CoV two,
Speaker 6: the infectious agent of COVID nineteen. And they analyzed the
Speaker 6: gene sequence, the genetic code, and they found a very
Speaker 6: interesting I think it's a nineteen nucleotide segment of this
Speaker 6: gene sequence that codes for the so called furrin cleavage site.
Speaker 6: I'm getting technical of the spike protein on SARS COVD two. Okay,
Speaker 6: this is the little spiny part of the virus that
Speaker 6: enables it to dock to onto an epithelial cell on
Speaker 6: the respiratory tract. So this is the component, the genetic
Speaker 6: component of the virus that makes it possible to be
Speaker 6: contagious to infect human respiratory tract cells. That piece of
Speaker 6: code coding for the foreign cleavage side of the spike
Speaker 6: protein perfectly matched, perfect match with the genetic sequence patented
Speaker 6: by stuff On boss Sell at Moderna in two thousand
Speaker 6: and sixteen. Using standard biostatistical analyses, the odds of that
Speaker 6: are one in three trillion. That means that bas Cell
Speaker 6: and Moderna already had the key part of this infectious agent.
Speaker 6: Add four years before the gene sequence of SARS kobe
Speaker 6: two was published. How is that possible? And if you
Speaker 6: think that I'm making this up. You can go to
Speaker 6: my sub stack in which I provide the links to
Speaker 6: all of the original documents.
Speaker 4: That's great, I think one of the biggest things that
Speaker 4: people don't really talk about. I was a big comic
Speaker 4: book reader. But the rationale for the gain of function
Speaker 4: experimentation in the first place is ludicrous.
Speaker 6: Yes, the assertion is, we have identified naturally occurring coronaviruses
Speaker 6: that are are in the natural reservoir are bat caves
Speaker 6: in southern China. Okay, so we are going to theoretically
Speaker 6: pose it that those viruses could ultimately, through evolution, natural
Speaker 6: evillutionary mutations, ultimately become infectious to humans. Okay, It's well
Speaker 6: understood that a bat coronavirus is not going to jump
Speaker 6: directly from a bat to human. We're genetically too different.
Speaker 6: It's going to need what's called an intermediary host, some
Speaker 6: kind of a higher level mammal, a civit, cat, a pig,
Speaker 6: you know, something that's closer to humans to enable it
Speaker 6: to make that subsequent evolutionary development where it could then
Speaker 6: become infectious to humans. Not only infectious, but infectious and
Speaker 6: contagious human to human called that community spread potential. So
Speaker 6: we are going to pose it that eventually, through a
Speaker 6: random evolutionary process, a coronavirus in these bats could eventually
Speaker 6: jumped to human hosts. So what we're going to do
Speaker 6: is we're going to harvest those viruses from bats, going
Speaker 6: to take those those samples to labs. We're going to
Speaker 6: do gain of function research in order to deliberately make
Speaker 6: them infectious to humans. And once we have a virus
Speaker 6: that is infectious to humans, we can then develop a
Speaker 6: vaccine countermeasure against it. So there is a professor named
Speaker 6: Richard E. Bright at Rutgers University who has been warning
Speaker 6: for years this is really stupid. The risk profile, risk
Speaker 6: probability of this thing that you are making, you're altering it,
Speaker 6: you're using biotechnology to make it infectious to humans. The
Speaker 6: risk of that escaping from a lab is far higher,
Speaker 6: god knows how much higher than the risk of a
Speaker 6: natural evolutionary eventual jump from bats to humans via an
Speaker 6: intermediary hosts that could take a thousand years, if not more.
Speaker 6: No one knows, No one can predict that. So here's
Speaker 6: the ultimate irony. When SARS Kobe two came out and
Speaker 6: the genome was released was published, Anthony Fauci. We now
Speaker 6: know this again, You think, how does John know this.
Speaker 6: It's all published, there's been freedom of information acts. It's
Speaker 6: all out there. We all know this, it's just not
Speaker 6: being reported. Anthony Fauci showed the genome to a bunch
Speaker 6: of his virology buddies, and we now know from Foyer
Speaker 6: request on the emails. Their first response upon seeing the genome,
Speaker 6: particularly the foreign cleavage site, was ge whiz, Anthony, this
Speaker 6: really looks artificial. This looks like it came out of
Speaker 6: a lab. I don't see how we could get some
Speaker 6: of these elements through natural evolution. Okay, that's in private
Speaker 6: email exchanges. What was publicly released was the exact opposite.
Speaker 6: These same guys published papers saying, this looks like it's
Speaker 6: a naturally evolving thing. I kid you not. This was
Speaker 6: exactly what happened. One of the guys who said, G
Speaker 6: whiz Anthony, this looks kind of, you know, like it
Speaker 6: didn't come about naturally. There's a guy named Eddie Holmes,
Speaker 6: a virologist in Australia. In twenty eighteen, Eddie Holmes published
Speaker 6: a paper in Nature stating this whole predict proposition, the
Speaker 6: whole idea that you could take. You could somehow analyze
Speaker 6: viruses and nature and things like bats and predict which
Speaker 6: ones will eventually make the evolutionary jump to humans is
Speaker 6: total bs sure. So Eddie Holmes himself is saying that
Speaker 6: this whole Game of Function project is based on a fallacious,
Speaker 6: illogical proposition with no scientific basis. So all of these
Speaker 6: guys there are a bunch of liars and frauds and
Speaker 6: they all belong in jail.
Speaker 4: I want to thank you so much, John Leeke for
Speaker 4: coming on and talking about the courage to face COVID nineteen,
Speaker 4: preventing hospitalization and death while battling the biopharmaceutical complex. For
Speaker 4: those people that might want to check out your website
Speaker 4: and grab a copy of this book, tell us about
Speaker 4: your website and more about this book.
Speaker 6: Well. My website can be found at author John Leak
Speaker 6: dot com. That's author John Leek, John L.
Speaker 2: E a K E.
Speaker 6: Dot I also write a substack for those of you
Speaker 6: who are unfamiliar with this platform. It's a free speech
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Speaker 6: My substack with doctor Peter McCullough is called Courageous Discourse
Speaker 6: with Doctor Peter McCullough and John Leek. There you'll find
Speaker 6: a lot of my reporting on this and then my
Speaker 6: book The Courage to Face COVID nineteen with doctor Peter
Speaker 6: McCullough can be found at Amazon dot com.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much for this interview, John Leek, The
Speaker 4: Courage to Face COVID nineteen, Thank you so much for
Speaker 4: this one interview, and have a great evening.
Speaker 2: Good you too, Thank you, Dan, thank you, good night.