1 00:00:01,879 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to the Daredevil 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,359 Born Again Review Series Episode seven. I'm the Man without 3 00:00:10,359 --> 00:00:11,359 a Name Trash. 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,519 Speaker 2: Now I'm joined by I Am the face Toucher, Kirker 5 00:00:15,679 --> 00:00:16,480 face Toucher. 6 00:00:16,679 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's some face touch we're gonna talk about. We 7 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:24,079 should hopefully be joined by mister Muss have some internet issues. 8 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 3: He was just here a second. 9 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: No, so we'll see Taylor out an assignment. He's been 10 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,600 very cagey about where he is, but you know he's 11 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:31,960 he's out there in the ether. We'll off to see 12 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,679 what he says when he gets back. But uh, yeah, 13 00:00:34,759 --> 00:00:38,119 we're here episode seven, one week away from the penultimate 14 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,840 episode of Daredevil. And yeah, Kirkle, I'm gonna throw it 15 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:43,840 to you first because we didn't get your thoughts next 16 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,520 week or for last week, and then might get some. 17 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 3: Reaction out here next week. No, I'm here, okay, he says. 18 00:00:52,079 --> 00:00:55,759 Speaker 1: Then one Cherryville trip and it's over. But yeah, what 19 00:00:55,799 --> 00:00:57,359 did you think about last week? At the last week 20 00:00:57,359 --> 00:00:59,679 we got the Bank episode and then we got some uh, 21 00:01:00,119 --> 00:01:02,640 the the Devil back and then you can transition that 22 00:01:02,719 --> 00:01:04,599 into your thoughts for for this week. 23 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 3: No, oh yeah, thank you doltin. We're on the side 24 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:07,920 quest background. 25 00:01:08,239 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: We uh oh what happened now alone? 26 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 3: I didn't mean that, you hear me. That's weird, but 27 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,040 uh thank you. Yeah, I'll switch that. But yeah, what 28 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:21,680 do you think about these last three episodes? 29 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 4: Uh? 30 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I watched them pretty close together. I watched the 31 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:31,120 other two just yesterday, and uh, I was I want 32 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,319 to say, like a little bit let down, like particularly 33 00:01:33,439 --> 00:01:37,000 by like the first episode of the two. I guess 34 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,599 I'll talk spoilers because people have seen that untill now. 35 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,319 Just yeah, like the whole like Kamala like like just 36 00:01:43,439 --> 00:01:46,239 tie in or attachment or whatever they're they're just setting up. 37 00:01:46,439 --> 00:01:48,920 It just seemed like really shoehorned in and really forced 38 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,560 and like really like oh my daughter Kamala, Like yeah, 39 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,439 we call her Miss Marvel, Like you know this character 40 00:01:53,519 --> 00:01:55,640 this is a this is a bobbleheab of her. Look 41 00:01:55,719 --> 00:01:58,359 like this is a funk of of Kamala. Kamala Like 42 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,319 it just seemed like so like just rammed on our 43 00:02:00,359 --> 00:02:02,799 throats to like really double down and like, hey, in 44 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:10,319 case nobody's seen Miss Marvel, Like right, yeah, So I 45 00:02:10,479 --> 00:02:13,680 liked the chemistry of Matt and him, like together like 46 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,599 I thought overall the episode was decent, Like the whole heist, 47 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,400 it just seemed a little bit out of place for me. 48 00:02:19,439 --> 00:02:21,639 And then yeah, just just the whole like Kamala lead 49 00:02:21,719 --> 00:02:23,960 up thing was just really forced for me. And it 50 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,680 seems like they've been there's been moments in the show 51 00:02:27,719 --> 00:02:30,000 where maybe they've referenced like other things of the MCU, 52 00:02:30,039 --> 00:02:31,800 and it just doesn't feel like that at all, like 53 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:32,280 that force. 54 00:02:32,319 --> 00:02:33,759 Speaker 4: So that one just really stood out to me. 55 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 2: But the episode after that, I really did enjoy, just 56 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,960 the whole setup of Matt gearing up at going into 57 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:43,800 like the bundle of episodes. I assumed it would have 58 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,719 happened a lot sooner, but it they really took their time. 59 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,080 It was like the back half of that second episode 60 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,960 when he suits up. But I wasn't disappointed. I thought 61 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,280 it was awesome. I was pretty hyped on it. And 62 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,159 the whole fight sequence with Mews really just dark and 63 00:02:56,199 --> 00:03:00,159 creepy character. And yeah, the one thing I will say 64 00:03:00,199 --> 00:03:04,159 on I can't remember her name, but it's uh, the 65 00:03:04,479 --> 00:03:09,080 White Tigers, the niece niece. Yeah, I couldn't remember the 66 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,840 relation there, but I just find like all of her 67 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,280 dialogue sequences, I don't know if it's just like her 68 00:03:14,439 --> 00:03:15,919 or the writing that they have for her. It just 69 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,000 seems like so corny and cheesy and just so like 70 00:03:19,439 --> 00:03:21,800 generic the dialogue specifically with that character. 71 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: It's funny you say that I have that exact same 72 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,080 thing with the female cop they have right now in 73 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:31,560 the bank, that whole scene like get me. 74 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 3: No, like even like the. 75 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 2: Like the bank robbery sequence, like when she's talking to 76 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,199 the bank robbery. Yeah, I had the same feeling. 77 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:40,039 Speaker 3: Get rid of all that. 78 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give because we've done this so many times 79 00:03:42,159 --> 00:03:44,479 where we see an actor actress that aren't great and 80 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,080 we seem someone else fantastic. I'm gonna give them benefit. 81 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:48,479 And I would say it's just the writing of this, 82 00:03:48,639 --> 00:03:52,520 but yeah, it's not Uh it's not great, and yeah, 83 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,199 don't worry, we will talk about all that stuff in 84 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:55,000 the commons people. 85 00:03:55,039 --> 00:03:57,639 Speaker 2: But yeah, so so that that was like my only 86 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,080 like two hold ups, but overall it was still still good, 87 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:05,159 still up there. It's not perfect by any means, but uh, yeah. 88 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: Where were you because I don't think you listened to 89 00:04:07,319 --> 00:04:09,680 the reviews last week? But I said that because I 90 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,240 wanted to talk to you. And then he did make 91 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,360 those episodes of course, so you know that's the house 92 00:04:13,479 --> 00:04:15,840 they would have it. But I remember you saying like, oh, 93 00:04:16,199 --> 00:04:18,839 you know you're going back and forth. The final grade 94 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:20,000 of the show is going to be a fail. And 95 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:21,600 the week before I was like, Oh, I don't get that. 96 00:04:21,959 --> 00:04:23,959 But then i'd seen those episodes last week because I 97 00:04:23,959 --> 00:04:25,759 get what. I could understand that where are you on 98 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,759 the scale now? Where is it tipping? Is it more 99 00:04:28,759 --> 00:04:31,000 in the past, You're still. 100 00:04:30,879 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 4: Definitely more on the past side. 101 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 2: I think like the actual crafting of the show I'm 102 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,199 able to like really appreciate. I think it was in 103 00:04:38,399 --> 00:04:40,839 episode six. There's just a lot of moments where it 104 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,800 would go from like Fisks, like having a conversation with someone, 105 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,399 and then it would like blink to Matt and like 106 00:04:46,439 --> 00:04:49,439 a situation that he's handling, and like sometimes it would 107 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,959 like still be Fisk and whoever he's talking to, but 108 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,720 then like it would be showing Matt, like just the 109 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,759 splicing of sequences and bouncing from Fisk to Matt. They've 110 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,920 done it multiple times throughout the season. 111 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,519 Speaker 3: The fight last week too, Yeah, getting fucked up. 112 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 2: Yeah gives them an axe, tells what come out of them. 113 00:05:07,319 --> 00:05:10,560 So just Yeah, like the actual craftsmanship of the show 114 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,160 I can really appreciate, and it is looking good, Like 115 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,680 I think the fight scenes have been looking better, you know, 116 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,079 minor spoilers the one in this episode there was there 117 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,519 was a couple of moments when I had to like rewind. 118 00:05:21,519 --> 00:05:23,639 It just seemed like so brutal, almost like a Mortal 119 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,000 Kombat sequence all detail. 120 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 4: Yeah it is when we get it. 121 00:05:26,079 --> 00:05:29,439 Speaker 2: But yeah, no, I I think it'll be a pass 122 00:05:29,519 --> 00:05:32,279 for me. It's it's it's yeah. I think we're past 123 00:05:32,319 --> 00:05:34,680 the point of it being potentially like a fail overall, 124 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,199 because we're over Yeah, we're well over the halfway point now, right, 125 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:38,639 We've got. 126 00:05:38,519 --> 00:05:40,879 Speaker 1: Two episodes left, And what's interesting is the next two 127 00:05:40,879 --> 00:05:43,279 episodes are complete overhaul episodes. 128 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:44,639 Speaker 3: So I feel like that for. 129 00:05:44,519 --> 00:05:46,319 Speaker 4: Me is like they rewrote it or something. 130 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,639 Speaker 1: So like there's lots of these like the first episode 131 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,879 I think was completely new one, and then lots of 132 00:05:50,879 --> 00:05:53,920 the episodes from two to now were a mix of 133 00:05:54,319 --> 00:05:56,560 some of the old show and then some of the 134 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,279 new stuff that they reshot and everything like that. Apparently 135 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,800 eight to nine are completely like top to bottom reshot 136 00:06:02,959 --> 00:06:04,480 started over and everything like that. 137 00:06:04,639 --> 00:06:05,759 Speaker 3: So that's where. 138 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,959 Speaker 1: I'm interested for next week because I so overall you 139 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,399 liked this episode, right, I don't want to cut off here? 140 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah I did to. 141 00:06:12,399 --> 00:06:14,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, the thumbs up for me, I think it's maybe 142 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,720 I don't think it's episode four punisher levels, but it's 143 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,439 probably the second best episode for me. Last week, I 144 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,439 thought there had some great moments. I just had some 145 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,399 issues with how quickly we got to things. Even mad 146 00:06:25,399 --> 00:06:27,240 He's like, oh, the cops were looking for him. I 147 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:28,959 found him one night. I had issues with that because 148 00:06:28,959 --> 00:06:30,839 it's like, how do we get there? It just felt 149 00:06:30,879 --> 00:06:33,439 very easy to find mus and his layer and everything. Right, 150 00:06:33,879 --> 00:06:36,639 So this week it's kind of cave accept that there's 151 00:06:36,639 --> 00:06:38,360 a lot of stakes going on. So I think this 152 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,120 is probably my second favorite episode. But I still don't 153 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,600 think it's like anywhere near how good Episode four was. 154 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,560 But I can't remember where the fudge I was going 155 00:06:48,639 --> 00:06:51,639 with this all. Oh, next, yeah, so we have this. 156 00:06:51,959 --> 00:06:55,720 The next episodes to me are gonna be really an 157 00:06:55,759 --> 00:06:58,800 indicator for my excitement for season two. I'm still excited 158 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,639 for season two because it's you know, I've not like 159 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,279 I've been disappointed aspects of the show, but not that disappointed. 160 00:07:04,319 --> 00:07:05,199 Speaker 3: There's still great stuff. 161 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,839 Speaker 1: I love seeing Vincent Donofrio and Charlie Cox do their things, 162 00:07:09,839 --> 00:07:12,040 you know, I think they're still great. And i've seen 163 00:07:12,079 --> 00:07:14,120 some set photos of the season two. I'm juicing because 164 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:15,879 there's some things I've been asking for for years that 165 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:16,360 we're getting. 166 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 3: So I'm pretty excited about that. 167 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: But I'm really hoping eight and nine are at least 168 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,519 as quality. But I'm hoping for better because if those 169 00:07:24,519 --> 00:07:28,519 two episodes really got the juice, that means okay, season two, 170 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,399 and it's kind of we've started over from this point 171 00:07:30,399 --> 00:07:32,160 of view, same directors, writers going forward. 172 00:07:32,199 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 3: It's like, hopefully that's a good sign, and yeah, I'm 173 00:07:34,839 --> 00:07:35,920 excited to see where we go. 174 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,959 Speaker 1: I think this episode provided some exciting things that I 175 00:07:38,959 --> 00:07:41,279 thought would happen later on. I think there's some stuff 176 00:07:41,279 --> 00:07:44,319 with Fisk and Vanessa, which is like, again, it's like 177 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:46,720 I see some people being like, oh, it's the clearest 178 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,079 sign of this, but I really don't know, because I 179 00:07:49,079 --> 00:07:51,720 feel like they left in a very ambiguous way. So 180 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,120 I've liked all that stuff. Yeah, No, I think it 181 00:07:56,439 --> 00:07:58,160 was a good episode. Very excited for the next two 182 00:07:58,199 --> 00:08:00,720 because either next week or the week after we're also 183 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,720 getting Frank back. I imagine here soon too, so I 184 00:08:02,759 --> 00:08:05,360 just know we're that much closer. 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Thoughts 217 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,279 but then, yeah we'll throw to an ad break and 218 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:31,360 we'll be right, back. 219 00:09:32,759 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 3: And we are. 220 00:09:33,639 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: Back SO i wanted to start. There Lord bison, Says 221 00:09:36,519 --> 00:09:38,159 siss Knows vanessa set him up. 222 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,399 Speaker 3: These within a face. Bomb. NOW i took that as 223 00:09:41,519 --> 00:09:45,559 like you could go either way with that. 224 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: Though BECAUSE i feel like there's three. Things BECAUSE i 225 00:09:47,799 --> 00:09:50,879 was very much heavily on the bandwagon Of fisk. 226 00:09:50,759 --> 00:09:51,279 Speaker 3: Was gonna Kill. 227 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: Vanessa these past few episodes have definitely been bonding a 228 00:09:54,399 --> 00:09:57,360 bit more and there's been some some, kinship and also 229 00:09:57,399 --> 00:09:59,360 the fact That fisks has kind of been like he's 230 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,440 gonna go he's gonna go back to the dark side 231 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,279 or he never, left felt, like, oh him And vanessa 232 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:04,159 might rekindle some. 233 00:10:04,159 --> 00:10:06,399 Speaker 3: Stuff SO i was starting to switch. 234 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,919 Speaker 1: Over even last week they were talking about working together 235 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,279 and how politicians are fake like it felt like more 236 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,080 The daredevil Like netflix show near the endwards like their thickest. 237 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 3: Thieves SO i think now we're gonna go two, ways 238 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,480 to be. HONEST i, Know i'm kind of backtracking WHAT i. 239 00:10:20,519 --> 00:10:24,279 Speaker 1: Thought but either she set them up and he got 240 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,440 out of, it and that's gonna like someone impress, her 241 00:10:26,759 --> 00:10:29,039 and even her doing that to him is gonna impress 242 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,399 her like, him or they just set up the mobster. 243 00:10:32,519 --> 00:10:35,519 Guy Like fisk knew the complete, time especially the way 244 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,519 when he, said, like, oh make sure Ask vanessa when 245 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,519 she wants me to bring for the. Restaurant to, me 246 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,200 that was a tip off that they were almost in 247 00:10:41,279 --> 00:10:43,679 on this hit thing, together because why would you say 248 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,480 that if she just like try to take your. LIFE 249 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,120 i feel like to, say, oh ask her for some. 250 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:48,960 Leftovers it's like that's kind of a weird way to, 251 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,879 Respond So i'm not completely on the bandwig and that 252 00:10:51,919 --> 00:10:54,240 she was trying to get rid Of fisk one hundred 253 00:10:54,279 --> 00:10:56,919 percent There, again that's WHY i appreciate the show that left, 254 00:10:56,919 --> 00:10:59,080 ambiguous didn't answer that you can go either. WAY i 255 00:10:59,159 --> 00:11:01,639 think they're really tone the line BECAUSE i think the 256 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:05,200 next episodes we're gonna find, out, okay issue with the machine. 257 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,879 NONE i Now i'm on the, bandwag AND i think 258 00:11:07,879 --> 00:11:09,279 they're gonna work it out one way or. 259 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 3: Another SO i could be. WRONG i Should MAYBE i. 260 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:13,919 Speaker 1: Could i'll look back and SAY i should with my 261 00:11:13,919 --> 00:11:15,240 gut a couple of weeks, ago AND i Said fisk 262 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,600 was gonna kill, Her but, UH i think it's left 263 00:11:18,639 --> 00:11:20,240 to up in the air right, now AND i could 264 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:20,840 go either way on. 265 00:11:20,919 --> 00:11:22,919 Speaker 2: It so, YEAH i think we're gonna find, out like 266 00:11:23,639 --> 00:11:26,440 the first time that they, meet like that the first 267 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,919 time they, meet they'll they'll be a good indicator and 268 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,960 onto what the motivation is. THERE i Think i'm more 269 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,039 on the side that she does kind of want him, 270 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:39,000 gone but, oh it also just seems like the, Easiest 271 00:11:39,159 --> 00:11:41,840 like that's like the easiest, Setup so like maybe they're. 272 00:11:41,639 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 4: Just tricking me with. That BUT i don't. KNOW i 273 00:11:43,879 --> 00:11:44,480 just feel like the. 274 00:11:44,519 --> 00:11:46,799 Speaker 2: Moments there's been a couple of moments throughout the show 275 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,720 already Where vanessa was, like oh, YEAH i was running 276 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,000 the business better before you came, back and, LIKE i 277 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,080 feel like that's still gonna be just bruin under skin. 278 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 3: Forever really, Well brewin is still. 279 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:59,639 Speaker 1: Much he's been brewn on his thoughts fighting with that. 280 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,759 Wife we just we only just talked like a sliver 281 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,440 of spoilers with Some fisk And vanessa. 282 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 3: Stuff so what do you think? Overall then you can start. 283 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:11,240 There he's he's so. Happy oh, okay just an evil. 284 00:12:11,279 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 4: Smirk that was that was that got. Me it just 285 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,039 paused on. That, yeah it's too it's gonna. 286 00:12:16,039 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 5: HOLD i feel it's gonna break. 287 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:17,639 Speaker 3: Again. 288 00:12:17,879 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: One, yeah it's funny before air when you're like you're 289 00:12:20,399 --> 00:12:21,480 just explained the bad WAY i. 290 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 5: Heard you for another like ten seconds, After. 291 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 3: Yeah he, Did and he's gonna smile right. 292 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: Now so, uh Hopefully i'm gonna Goodwill dylan Mus, so 293 00:12:31,039 --> 00:12:31,879 what did you think about the? 294 00:12:32,039 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 3: Episode? 295 00:12:34,759 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 5: Hi can you hear? 296 00:12:35,639 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 4: Me and my work froze? 297 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:38,519 Speaker 3: Again so you're, here you're, Here. 298 00:12:38,799 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 5: Okay i'm this is probably not gonna work But i'll 299 00:12:41,039 --> 00:12:43,399 try for a bit and if it glitches out, again 300 00:12:44,279 --> 00:12:44,759 get out. 301 00:12:44,879 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 3: Here, okay fair. 302 00:12:46,159 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 5: Enough, yeah this was A this is another underwhelming episode for. 303 00:12:50,759 --> 00:12:52,480 Me so now we're on like a bit of a bad, 304 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:56,600 streak which is concerning for. Me uh, YEAH i don't. 305 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,120 KNOW i GUESS i just didn't find there to be 306 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:02,279 a whold of tention. HERE i think the THE i, 307 00:13:02,279 --> 00:13:04,039 guess are we in spoilers? NOW i guess it would 308 00:13:04,039 --> 00:13:04,440 get past. 309 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: That you're. 310 00:13:04,759 --> 00:13:08,399 Speaker 5: Fine, Yeah like the therapy section and that whole dynamic 311 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,320 and conversation just like didn't really work for. ME i 312 00:13:11,639 --> 00:13:13,759 didn't love like the backstory we got for this, character 313 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,759 and now he's, gone so it's, Like, OKAY i guess 314 00:13:16,759 --> 00:13:19,200 that was. That LIKE i feel like three weeks from, 315 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,559 NOW i will have forgotten About muse and we'll never 316 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,480 think about him again until maybe he comes up in 317 00:13:23,519 --> 00:13:26,120 LIKE Mcu Golden geeks is like a meme or something like. 318 00:13:26,159 --> 00:13:28,200 That BUT i feel Like i'll never think of this character, 319 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,000 again which is kind of a disappointed arc For, uh 320 00:13:31,039 --> 00:13:32,840 what could have been something? Else and THEN i don't know, What, 321 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,039 LIKE i guess we had two more episodes. Here Now 322 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,879 fisk knows About matt And daredevil and all, That so 323 00:13:37,919 --> 00:13:39,919 that'll be kind of the big tension for the next 324 00:13:39,919 --> 00:13:42,720 two episodes. Here BUT i feel like it's gonna be 325 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,440 one of those Classic Disney plus rushed. Finales even though 326 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,639 we didn't have a six episode thing. Here we need 327 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,639 to get a full, nine but it still feels like 328 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,240 it's gonna be rushed whatever. HAPPENS i know we kind 329 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,120 of have this two season arc sort of situation going, 330 00:13:55,159 --> 00:13:58,159 on but, yeah this is another disappointing week for. Me 331 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,840 BUT i not to say whole thoughts, again but are 332 00:14:00,879 --> 00:14:02,080 you guys with me on this or do you guys 333 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:02,799 like this? Episode? 334 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,039 Speaker 1: No this is probably my second, favorite BUT i can 335 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:06,759 also say that it's, like Because i've had a, LOT 336 00:14:06,879 --> 00:14:08,919 i think there's been more episodes that you guys liked 337 00:14:08,919 --> 00:14:11,600 more than, me, Right AND i don't THINK i still Say, 338 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,919 kirklan we're episode FOUR i think is high up for 339 00:14:14,039 --> 00:14:17,679 me where this doesn't meet meet those type of layers 340 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,240 LIKE i enjoyed it the, most. 341 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,799 Speaker 3: But i've kind of had a like a like A 342 00:14:22,159 --> 00:14:22,679 i don't, know. 343 00:14:22,759 --> 00:14:25,399 Speaker 1: Melting pot of thoughts for the the other, one so 344 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,600 it's not like a high. Second BUT i don't think 345 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,159 it was as messy as last. WEEK i enjoyed some 346 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,679 of The mews, stuff even THOUGH i think it kind 347 00:14:33,679 --> 00:14:35,120 of went TO i f AND i didn't. WANT i 348 00:14:35,519 --> 00:14:37,919 still like the Cat mouse game With fisk And. Vanessa 349 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,600 i'm enjoying where we're at, there AND i think there's 350 00:14:40,639 --> 00:14:42,200 some some good acting going. 351 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,799 Speaker 4: On so, Yeah, NO i definitely enjoyed it for the most. Part. 352 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,879 Speaker 2: Overall, HOWEVER i will SAY i am pretty underwhelmed With. 353 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 4: Muse. 354 00:14:50,639 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 2: OVERALL i just felt like we were really getting into the 355 00:14:53,879 --> 00:14:55,519 thick of, it Like, okay this is gonna be our 356 00:14:55,519 --> 00:14:58,600 big threat, here and just dismantled that, quickly and not 357 00:14:58,759 --> 00:15:01,360 not just like The Point dexter route where you, know 358 00:15:01,399 --> 00:15:03,240 he goes in jail and we're gonna touch back with 359 00:15:03,279 --> 00:15:05,360 him a little bit. Later he also was really reminding 360 00:15:05,399 --> 00:15:08,320 me Of Point dexter, actually like when he was just 361 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,440 going through his, uh His daredevil stuff in season, three 362 00:15:11,519 --> 00:15:12,360 like just the therapy. 363 00:15:12,879 --> 00:15:15,399 Speaker 4: Sessions he's just a really odd duck type of. 364 00:15:15,519 --> 00:15:19,159 Speaker 1: Character so patron Producer mike and The discord said his 365 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,120 least fairit. Episode not a fan of how they Did, 366 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,360 muse and that's the. THING i could also, say there's 367 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,600 some that comic book bias THAT i have. Here but even, then, 368 00:15:25,639 --> 00:15:27,720 LIKE i don't think it was done, Awful but it's 369 00:15:27,799 --> 00:15:29,559 kind of funny how last WEEK i, Said, Oh i'm 370 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,559 really glad they didn't kill him, off and. 371 00:15:31,519 --> 00:15:34,759 Speaker 3: Then they just killed him, off like, WELL i BECAUSE i, thought, 372 00:15:34,799 --> 00:15:35,639 oh we have three more. 373 00:15:35,639 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: Episodes they're probably gonna especially when he got to because 374 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,080 for the whole, Season i've been, saying, oh he's gonna kidnap, 375 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,440 her and that's gonna be more layers, there but they 376 00:15:43,519 --> 00:15:46,120 just like they went fast forward on that where he 377 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:47,639 didn't get to do that he kidnapped, her but then 378 00:15:47,639 --> 00:15:49,399 that led to like the. Death it felt like we 379 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,120 got the last three episodes truncated. Here SO i will 380 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,000 SAY i am disappointed, somewhat even. 381 00:15:54,879 --> 00:15:56,759 Speaker 3: THOUGH i like the actor. PERFORMANCE i think they get 382 00:15:56,799 --> 00:15:57,639 they good job to get him. 383 00:15:57,639 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: Creepy and when he slicing her, arm like oh my, 384 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,159 god even in the hospital like they said she had 385 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,039 some minor, Lacerations i'm, like what doesn't look minor to? 386 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 3: Me like he was deep so. 387 00:16:07,879 --> 00:16:11,879 Speaker 5: Funny that the cops were, like whoever was here? Stabilizer i'm, 388 00:16:11,879 --> 00:16:13,840 like what did he do? EXACTLY i was kind of 389 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:14,720 confused about. 390 00:16:14,519 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 3: Like if you saw her army wrap something around The, yeah. 391 00:16:19,159 --> 00:16:21,919 Speaker 5: But, no it's it's honestly the exact CONCERN i had 392 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,799 last week WHERE i was, Like, OKAY i feel like 393 00:16:24,919 --> 00:16:28,279 when we were down in his, Den daredevil kind of dismantled, 394 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:29,799 him like pretty. Easily, yeah there was a bit of 395 00:16:29,799 --> 00:16:31,399 a back and, forth but like he took him. Out 396 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,120 it was a very one sided. Fight in my, Opinions i'm, 397 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,480 like what else are we gonna build up? To and, 398 00:16:36,559 --> 00:16:39,120 yeah like the answer was like nothing like another fight 399 00:16:39,159 --> 00:16:41,080 where he you, know once, again he took a couple of, 400 00:16:41,159 --> 00:16:43,559 hits but fair it was a two on ONE i, 401 00:16:43,559 --> 00:16:45,639 guess so you can maybe say that was a bit 402 00:16:45,679 --> 00:16:48,120 of disadvantage, Here but, YEAH i just felt, like why 403 00:16:48,159 --> 00:16:51,279 did we even really let him get? Away especially If 404 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,399 heather's the like his the girlfriend's, name, Right, like considering 405 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:59,360 that she's lived through this, Encounter, like what really was the? 406 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,039 Point AND i guess it's probably gonna lead to her 407 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,399 discovering who he, Was BUT i thought he was gonna 408 00:17:03,399 --> 00:17:06,039 tell her in the hospital room or something like do 409 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:07,759 that Reveal but the fact that we haven't done that 410 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,039 and she doesn't seem super suss of, it because it 411 00:17:11,039 --> 00:17:12,759 seems like she was so low on blood the whole 412 00:17:12,799 --> 00:17:15,359 sequence that she couldn't detect that, like, oh that's my 413 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,799 boyfriend's face right there That i'm seeing half of right. 414 00:17:17,799 --> 00:17:20,480 Now So i'm curious to see what we, do BUT 415 00:17:20,519 --> 00:17:22,559 i feel like it's not gonna build it. Anything AND 416 00:17:22,559 --> 00:17:24,160 i just don't really know what the point of this. 417 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: Was you don't feel like her saying, like oh he 418 00:17:26,319 --> 00:17:28,200 knew my. NAME i feel like that was the BREAD. 419 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,279 Crubsa once she's fully off the, edge she's gonna figure 420 00:17:31,279 --> 00:17:33,079 out that it's Like matt needs to shave that. 421 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 3: Beard he cannot be daredel with that, beard that. 422 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:36,799 Speaker 5: Beer that's WHY i feel like they were trying to 423 00:17:36,799 --> 00:17:38,519 play it off that she was so low on blood 424 00:17:38,559 --> 00:17:41,000 and so loopy that she barely remembers the. Encounter and, 425 00:17:41,079 --> 00:17:44,440 yes she remembers the name, part BUT i also he 426 00:17:44,559 --> 00:17:46,160 was like in her office and presume that there's like 427 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,000 name plates, around so like maybe she would just think it's. 428 00:17:48,039 --> 00:17:48,440 THAT i don't. 429 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: KNOW i think between that and then the start of the, 430 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,519 episode she was asking he's been missing a, lot and 431 00:17:53,559 --> 00:17:56,240 then he's also has these, INJURIES i think she will put. 432 00:17:56,319 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 3: TOGETHER i don't know if it's the end of the, 433 00:17:57,759 --> 00:17:58,440 season BUT i. 434 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,599 Speaker 1: Think they're laying leading to her putting it, together AND 435 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,400 i don't know if that means they stay together she 436 00:18:04,799 --> 00:18:07,160 breaks up with them because he was, lying BECAUSE i 437 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:08,759 don't know if she's back for season two or what 438 00:18:08,799 --> 00:18:10,880 the deal. IS i didn't think she was gonna die, 439 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:12,480 here BUT i actually thought she was gonna get her 440 00:18:12,519 --> 00:18:15,160 eyes taken out because in the com book run that's 441 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,720 what he does the blind, spot so especially at one 442 00:18:18,759 --> 00:18:21,160 point when he was choking, HER i thought always gonna blind. 443 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,839 Her but obviously mus is now, dead so he's not blinding. 444 00:18:23,839 --> 00:18:25,599 Anybody's everyone's eyes are. 445 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 3: Safe BUT i think she. 446 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:32,279 Speaker 1: Will find out based on. This i'm not gonna say 447 00:18:32,279 --> 00:18:35,480 in this, season but in the next six, episodes so 448 00:18:35,519 --> 00:18:37,240 that's kind of season. Two i'm gonna say maybe at 449 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,960 the beginning of season two starts with her like confronting 450 00:18:40,039 --> 00:18:42,000 him because she was already talking About dariedel last. Week, 451 00:18:42,039 --> 00:18:44,079 LIKE i feel like we're getting some bread. Crumbs AND 452 00:18:44,079 --> 00:18:45,920 i think the only reason now they got they had 453 00:18:46,039 --> 00:18:48,720 mus do this and kill them off here instead of 454 00:18:48,759 --> 00:18:51,319 last week so they could do the Whole fisk hold 455 00:18:51,319 --> 00:18:52,960 the mask up so they can show that Like god 456 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,039 a vigilante because they can't Get, punisher he's got a special. 457 00:18:56,079 --> 00:18:58,599 Neck year we got season two a Dared devil and 458 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,519 then he's not gonna Get Spider man because you, Know 459 00:19:00,599 --> 00:19:01,720 sony's not let him pop over. 460 00:19:01,799 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 3: There and it's, like imagine. 461 00:19:04,279 --> 00:19:06,799 Speaker 1: That imagine if Like sony And marvel broke up the 462 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:08,720 rights and that's how they did, it like to announce 463 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,079 like and we've got The Wall crawler AND i guess 464 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,079 Like White, tiger they couldn't do because the task wasn't, 465 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:15,839 There SO i guess that's what me. Served is He 466 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,240 but even, then it's like he's not a, vigilante like 467 00:19:19,279 --> 00:19:21,079 he's there's this like he's a serial. 468 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,519 Speaker 3: Killer it's not the same. Thing, Yeah so. 469 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,839 Speaker 1: When anybody like picked that part and you just be, like, 470 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,480 no he's a he's just a straight. Criminal he's not 471 00:19:28,599 --> 00:19:32,640 What daredevil and Like Luke Cage aharon, fistus like he's. 472 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 3: Just a guy he killed sixty, people LIKE. 473 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,559 Speaker 2: I don't, know M, yeah, yeah it is stranger when 474 00:19:37,599 --> 00:19:39,599 you put it that, way just like the symbolism of 475 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,000 like we got this like a symbol of this. Guy 476 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,319 but it's LIKE i don't know if if he was 477 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,839 just a terrorist wearing A Bella claba, mask would you 478 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:48,839 just like show That like. 479 00:19:48,799 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: It's, yeah Strange and because of said you know other Vigilante, 480 00:19:52,759 --> 00:19:55,400 daredevil two lives were, saved you, Know White tiger's niece 481 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,279 and then now the. Therapist so AND i guess the 482 00:19:58,319 --> 00:20:01,039 only Thing i'm. WONDERING i don't know what's gonna happen next, 483 00:20:01,039 --> 00:20:03,319 week BUT i thought that's How. 484 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 3: Fisk And matt might meet one more. 485 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 1: Time AS i Thought fisk and it still could, happen 486 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,440 might go visit her in the hospital out Of matt's their. 487 00:20:09,519 --> 00:20:12,839 BEDSIDE i think that's a very entertaining thing because one 488 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,200 you get the confrontation of those. Two but then also we, 489 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,839 said like at some point they're gonna have to Like 490 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,720 matt's gonna have to find out she's been talking To 491 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,359 fisk right like even as a. Client SO i think 492 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,480 that might be another purpose of why she's alive is 493 00:20:24,559 --> 00:20:25,640 to get that. 494 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,519 Speaker 5: Gun or maybe maybe there's like some flowers left there 495 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:33,480 By fisk or, something not that he, would but you 496 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:34,279 could find out about. 497 00:20:34,319 --> 00:20:37,079 Speaker 3: It, yeah and any of these, flowers you. 498 00:20:37,079 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 2: Know, yeah, SORRY i cut you, off like he showed 499 00:20:42,079 --> 00:20:45,599 somewhat of like invested interest in the fact that you 500 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,640 know it was the therapist, downtown, Right like when who was? 501 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: That was? It? 502 00:20:50,039 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 4: Buck his Goal english? Book giving all this, information Whose. 503 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 2: Buck's starting To he's starting to turn it up, this you, 504 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:56,880 know in the back half of the, season he's starting 505 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,119 to go Full, wesley pull out the. 506 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,519 Speaker 4: Guns BUT i just got, it, doubling. 507 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 2: Doubling circling back To, HEATHER i do think that she 508 00:21:07,319 --> 00:21:09,920 is gonna Confront matt about The daredevil this. SEASON i 509 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,480 think it's just too big of a bread crumbine thing 510 00:21:13,519 --> 00:21:15,440 to leave for next, season to just not even have 511 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:21,440 it really touched upon. HERE i also just it's A superman, 512 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,599 effect you, know where people can just stare right at, 513 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,319 someone be like this is not the person THAT i 514 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:29,319 stare at all day every, day but multiple times now 515 00:21:29,319 --> 00:21:31,960 in the, Show i'm just like, Man like like with 516 00:21:32,519 --> 00:21:35,640 The White tiger's, Niece i'm just, like, man this is so, 517 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,799 Strange like he doesn't change his voice or, anything and 518 00:21:37,839 --> 00:21:39,799 like she just talked to him like that, Day LIKE 519 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:40,440 i get. 520 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 3: It this was in like a well lit. 521 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,319 Speaker 5: Room normally it's like in an alleyway at least so 522 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:45,279 you can pass it off as. 523 00:21:45,319 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 2: That but and then yeah again here With, heather who's, like, 524 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,400 yeah these guys are. Lovers they're boning in the shower 525 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,319 earlier in that, day and then and holding her face. 526 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,519 AGAIN i guess she's losing, blood she's getting. Loopy but 527 00:21:57,599 --> 00:22:00,400 still it just seems a little bit a little bit 528 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,440 too much for me to. Swallow SO i do. 529 00:22:03,519 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 4: Hope and you, know she's supposed to be like an 530 00:22:05,319 --> 00:22:06,599 educated woman and like. 531 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,839 Speaker 2: Very like just just active brain and. Thoughts you, know 532 00:22:09,839 --> 00:22:11,200 she should be able to catch up on these. 533 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 5: Things, yeah the fact that she can't detect his face 534 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,640 from seeing that much of, it but he can detect 535 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,680 her face from fucking paint on a piece of paper 536 00:22:20,759 --> 00:22:24,599 THAT i hate that so. Much that the dumbest thing. 537 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,119 Ever there's way too many just super convenient things in this, 538 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,160 show and it just bothers, me AND i JUST i 539 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,920 just can't buy into him being like a, cool smart 540 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,400 investigator when it's just like that is how poorly it's. 541 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:37,880 WRITTEN i was so pissed. 542 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,759 Speaker 4: Off and that's, like, well your same, face he. 543 00:22:39,839 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 2: Says you, know like looking at these two, images one 544 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:43,839 has like a little bit of texture on, it so 545 00:22:43,839 --> 00:22:45,480 Maybe i'll give him a pass. There but then when 546 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,279 you like close in and then it does the flash 547 00:22:47,279 --> 00:22:49,920 to him just touching her. Face, YEAH i laughed out. 548 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,079 Speaker 3: LOUD i can see HOW i can't defend. 549 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: It it didn't really bug me because it's, like, okay 550 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,359 he's like not super, sensus but, LIKE i can see 551 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,519 how it bugs. You but luckily they killed him and 552 00:22:59,559 --> 00:23:01,960 caught him as if, not you, know his fingerprints are 553 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,559 over that layer or, so like they're gonna announce That 554 00:23:03,599 --> 00:23:05,000 Matt murdock's the fucking muse. 555 00:23:05,079 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 3: Killer but, luckily uh, glove he took him. Off he 556 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:10,519 took him off if you watched that. 557 00:23:10,559 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: Scene, Yeah and THEN i, said and then he's, like 558 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,000 well he has to Feel becauzar, like, YEAH i guess, 559 00:23:15,079 --> 00:23:17,480 so but it's just, like, yeah his fingerprints are just 560 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:18,880 all over that. 561 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 3: Thing so. YEAH I, ALSO i don't Think King knin's 562 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:22,880 go in a. FRAME i don't think we're going that, 563 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,000 way even though there is like multiple. 564 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: Arcs one in, PARTICULAR i like Where Matt morock does 565 00:23:27,559 --> 00:23:28,920 end up in, prison and we were talking about in 566 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,319 the discord a couple of weeks. AGO i would love 567 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,759 them to do, that especially With bullseye in, Prison LIKE 568 00:23:32,799 --> 00:23:35,519 i would love That Matt murdock, goes like everyone knows he, 569 00:23:35,599 --> 00:23:37,240 there definitely goes to, Prison and if that would have 570 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,319 been an another great reason to Have mews, alive because 571 00:23:39,319 --> 00:23:41,680 that's what happened when he goes to. Prison there's multiple 572 00:23:41,759 --> 00:23:43,640 villains in that prison that know that he you, know 573 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,160 of sely it's out. There SO i just think that 574 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,000 idea of you going to, prison you're locked in with 575 00:23:49,039 --> 00:23:51,119 like four to, five you're like greatest. Foes it's like 576 00:23:51,279 --> 00:23:53,480 and you could get killed at any, Time LIKE i 577 00:23:53,839 --> 00:23:55,559 AND i feel like that's like a, nice like low 578 00:23:55,559 --> 00:23:57,759 Budget disney plus, thing like they love not putting this 579 00:23:57,839 --> 00:24:00,000 guy in the, Suit like that's a whole fucking scene 580 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,599 of him not in the, Suit like it's Just Charlie 581 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:03,599 cox in, prison you. 582 00:24:03,599 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 3: Know SO i guess we'll. 583 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,319 Speaker 1: See but, Uh, dylan we were talking about With, fisk 584 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,640 do you think that was a setup by them both 585 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,079 to kill the mob? Boss do you think that Was 586 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,240 vanessa making her first real move Against. 587 00:24:14,279 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 3: Fist do you think it was a real move And 588 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:17,240 fisk is still gonna forgive. 589 00:24:17,279 --> 00:24:19,559 Speaker 1: Her we're kind of about the possibilities that BECAUSE i 590 00:24:19,599 --> 00:24:21,119 see a lot of people taking it's, like, oh that's 591 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,680 the first, shot but like it was so easily dealt. 592 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,559 WITH i could also just see That fisk and her 593 00:24:25,839 --> 00:24:28,240 decided because Like fist the past couple of weeks has 594 00:24:28,279 --> 00:24:30,640 been starting to get dirty and telling her he's getting. 595 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 3: Dirty so it's not like a. Surprise so where were 596 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:32,920 you on? That? 597 00:24:33,079 --> 00:24:36,559 Speaker 1: Uh the GUY i can't remember his, name but he's sadly. 598 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:36,799 Speaker 3: No longer with. 599 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 5: Us so the mygrete on it was that she knew 600 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,920 what was going to happen and was setting him up 601 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,680 to be murdered because he was getting a little too. 602 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,079 Nosy Uh SO i think, that, yeah the first time 603 00:24:48,079 --> 00:24:50,880 that we've seen her this season really getting dirty or 604 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,799 seen like maybe the more sinister side of. Her maybe 605 00:24:53,799 --> 00:24:56,680 SHE i don't know why, exactly she appeels like now 606 00:24:56,759 --> 00:24:58,839 is the time to jump into that kind of, Thing but, 607 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,079 yeah that was definitely the VIBE i, think especially like 608 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,599 the scene like under the bridge when they're, TALKING i 609 00:25:04,599 --> 00:25:06,200 feel like she really did not like the way he 610 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,720 was talking to, her addressing her or undermining her potentially. 611 00:25:10,319 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: FACE i know, WHAT i know what your thoughts. Are 612 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,000 it's LIKE i feel, like, yeah it isn't like that, 613 00:25:14,279 --> 00:25:15,519 concept you, Know so. 614 00:25:15,559 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 5: Yeah and just doesn't like to be like questioned or 615 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,079 have like fist being questioned at this. Point so, YEAH 616 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,680 i definitely saw it as a setup and like her 617 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,039 her devious. Face you, know that's a thumbnail too of the, 618 00:25:25,079 --> 00:25:27,720 episode is like her looking down at her phone with 619 00:25:27,759 --> 00:25:30,160 like a really really serious. Face SO i THINK i 620 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:31,000 think it was a setup for. 621 00:25:31,039 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 3: Sure is that the? THUMBNAIL i? 622 00:25:33,079 --> 00:25:33,279 Speaker 4: Think? 623 00:25:33,319 --> 00:25:35,759 Speaker 1: So oh, MY i think my thumbnail is the ONE 624 00:25:35,799 --> 00:25:39,240 i use for this this episode Where matt's like touching the, Paintings, 625 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:40,880 oh different. 626 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 3: Ones maybe we. 627 00:25:42,039 --> 00:25:45,279 Speaker 1: Did, Yeah i'm trying to think there's anything more we got. 628 00:25:45,279 --> 00:25:47,359 THERE i guess we touched upon. It what the hell's 629 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,279 the guy's name the? Assistant is It? 630 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 3: Dylan Not? Dylan is? It that's something like? That? Though? No, no? 631 00:25:54,839 --> 00:25:57,079 Speaker 1: Fuck who is the guy who was a mess WITH 632 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,119 bb this episode of like he's the fucking? 633 00:25:59,160 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 3: Man? 634 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway so we got that Where, okay so everyone 635 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,240 you know in our circles knows That daredevil is. 636 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,079 Speaker 3: Back at the. Back, guys what is his? Name? 637 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 4: Daniel? 638 00:26:09,079 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 3: Daniel Can? 639 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: Daniel alan And dylan say that's all? RIGHT i got, 640 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,920 It But daniel he pretty much just tell HIM bb Like, okay, 641 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,640 yeah everyone's gonna kind of know in the law like, 642 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,279 whatever the vigilante force fitts people, whatever That daredevil saved 643 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,680 her and got this. Vigilante but we really want to win, 644 00:26:26,759 --> 00:26:28,720 here so we're gonna say it was the Task. 645 00:26:28,759 --> 00:26:29,319 Speaker 3: Force he did. 646 00:26:29,319 --> 00:26:31,319 Speaker 1: That she was kind of pushing back and she's, like 647 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:32,960 you're threatening, Me like, No i'm just saying you could 648 00:26:33,039 --> 00:26:34,640 choose to make you WHICH i thought was like very 649 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,400 weak dialogue of like you could make your life really 650 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,039 awesome or really. Sucky i'm just like it's all we, 651 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,400 got like come on, now like Couldn't no one looked just. 652 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 3: Like let's do another, Past like that's. 653 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: All AND i get that The daniel characters supposed to 654 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,599 be kind of like a, slimy but like he's still 655 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,279 in a position WHERE i feel like he has to 656 00:26:48,319 --> 00:26:50,279 be somewhat of a smart. Guy SO i don't, KNOW 657 00:26:50,319 --> 00:26:53,559 i didn't love, that But i'm imagining that she's gonna 658 00:26:53,559 --> 00:26:56,359 go the Ben yurik round not report that it was 659 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,680 the Task, force, right like we didn't get that, answer 660 00:26:58,720 --> 00:26:59,680 BUT i feel like she's. 661 00:26:59,519 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 3: Gonna say it Was dedie and she becomes now a. 662 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 5: Threat so, well we even got that like cell phone 663 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,960 recording of someone on the street being LIKE i Saw 664 00:27:06,079 --> 00:27:07,200 daredevil popping out of that. 665 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 3: Window, yeah so. 666 00:27:09,079 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 5: That'll definitely be a point of contention in the city 667 00:27:11,519 --> 00:27:14,960 as definitely some people pushing back on. This maybe we'll. 668 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,079 SEE i, mean what is bb do. 669 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 3: Doing does she go with the flow or does she 670 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,119 uh she tell the? 671 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 5: Truth m, hmm maybe She maybe she goes undercover a 672 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,039 little bit, longer like not trying to blow it. Up 673 00:27:26,079 --> 00:27:29,720 maybe she wants to gather more information before SHE i don't, 674 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,799 know does like the big sting against? Him, yeah so 675 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,880 that might not even have him the season, POTENTIALLY i don't. 676 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 1: Know, plus LIKE i feel, like even if you don't like, 677 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,000 it say right, now because he's the, mayor you should 678 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,000 do that just to ensure because her first thought was 679 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,960 are you threatening? Me like you could, die you, know 680 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,240 like looking at how your uncle. Died maybe she, should 681 00:27:47,319 --> 00:27:49,640 even if she doesn't believe, it she should report, That, 682 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,160 yeah the Task force did, this AND i don't, know 683 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,160 wait Till Frank castle comes. 684 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 3: Around then you're in the. Clear but what about, You? 685 00:27:55,799 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: Kirkling is she gonna die on the sword like her? 686 00:27:58,079 --> 00:28:01,039 Uncles next next week is A daniel choking her. 687 00:28:01,079 --> 00:28:04,759 Speaker 4: Out it's Just, Daniel but WHAT i would love. 688 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: Is him to try and do the fist, thing but 689 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,960 her just like kick his ass and like choke him, 690 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,599 out you, know Like wesley's. 691 00:28:09,599 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 2: Style he throws her the, axe you, know tries to 692 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:14,640 go The adam round and it doesn't work to. 693 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,039 Speaker 3: She throws it. Back she still kicks his. 694 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,799 Speaker 2: Ass i'd be disappointed if she does just like just 695 00:28:23,079 --> 00:28:25,559 take the intimidation route and, Like, Okay i'm not gonna do. 696 00:28:25,599 --> 00:28:27,480 This LIKE i feel, like what's the point of even 697 00:28:27,519 --> 00:28:29,599 setting this. Up you, know she's not staying true or 698 00:28:29,599 --> 00:28:31,839 her family, Name like she should be better than. This 699 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,519 AND i do believe that will probably be like a 700 00:28:34,519 --> 00:28:38,720 big thing going forward after this. Season LIKE i don't 701 00:28:38,759 --> 00:28:41,160 think that'll be a, resolution just like going into season, 702 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,920 two there's gonna be a growing just, yeah like is 703 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,200 it Is daredevil back he's the one that's doing stuff 704 00:28:47,319 --> 00:28:49,599 or is it just this task Force and there's just 705 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,119 gonna be those those little splinters forming and just the public. 706 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,319 OPINION i think that's a good way to just set 707 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,599 up season. Two but, YEAH i don't. Know, see it 708 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,000 was very weird scene, overall This daniel, guy he does 709 00:29:02,039 --> 00:29:05,240 NOT i didn't love him throw the whole, show but 710 00:29:05,319 --> 00:29:08,480 like him starting to be this like he's attempting to 711 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,000 be like an imposing intimidation, guy and it's like staying 712 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,680 in your, lane, bro like come, on like, this ain't? 713 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: You AND i think it's been a few episodes since 714 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,640 we saw the woman above, him you, know like she 715 00:29:18,839 --> 00:29:24,519 was like talking in the, Cage, yeah the muses fucking, Subway, 716 00:29:24,759 --> 00:29:28,960 yeah the, cage, right and forgot about? That, yeah just 717 00:29:29,039 --> 00:29:31,160 what did you do to get? Here and every night 718 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,759 fisicals throwing her the. Acts come, on that's he's just 719 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,839 he's like picking the most weak people and just fighting. 720 00:29:35,839 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 3: Them he thinks he's like this big steak in front of. 721 00:29:38,319 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: Them. YEAH i did like that scene he had With 722 00:29:42,319 --> 00:29:44,680 buck when when at one Point buck's, like, well you, 723 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,079 know can't be the worst thing in him being out. 724 00:29:47,119 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 3: There he could do some good catch. 725 00:29:48,319 --> 00:29:52,039 Speaker 1: Music and offer just made some like OH i don't think, 726 00:29:52,079 --> 00:29:54,559 so like you just made this like weird, laugh like 727 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,319 only a Laugh Donna frio can. Do Where i'm, LIKE 728 00:29:57,519 --> 00:29:59,839 i love this man so, much BUT i liked that. 729 00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:02,160 SCENE i even liked even LIKE i, SAID i did 730 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,119 not like the cop and her dialogue, again but you, 731 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:06,920 KNOW i like his you, know like trying to pry 732 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,160 but because he already Knows Dared devil's, back but he's 733 00:30:09,319 --> 00:30:11,240 he does that fist thing where he's like looking but he's. 734 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,759 Pretending he just does it with his. Eyes i'll take 735 00:30:13,799 --> 00:30:15,839 care of it. Now SO i like that were again. 736 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,079 Then AND i liked his reaction too of finding out 737 00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:20,960 That matt was, back because it wasn't like complete anger 738 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:21,240 like it. 739 00:30:21,279 --> 00:30:21,599 Speaker 3: Was it. 740 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: Was it was mixed because like they point, out, like, 741 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,279 hey save these, people and he's dealing With, mews AND 742 00:30:26,319 --> 00:30:28,599 i think Even fisk does know, That, Okay mews is 743 00:30:28,599 --> 00:30:31,200 a much worse threat Than matt is right, now. 744 00:30:31,279 --> 00:30:31,799 Speaker 3: Right BUT i. 745 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: Feel like we got a good recap for, if for 746 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,319 some reason he didn't watch the original show of like 747 00:30:36,319 --> 00:30:38,279 he built you, Know taylor And kirkland didn't like this 748 00:30:38,319 --> 00:30:40,039 in the original. Show, again he said he's spent ten, 749 00:30:40,119 --> 00:30:43,839 Years kirkland ten years building that. Operation that's how he did. 750 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,720 Everything he was In tokyo building a ten year. Operation 751 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,000 BUT i like that he's just, yeah he brought it. 752 00:30:49,079 --> 00:30:51,200 Down he turned my life. Over he got me, arrested 753 00:30:51,279 --> 00:30:54,519 SO i thought it. WAS i liked all The vincent 754 00:30:54,599 --> 00:30:57,079 acting this, episode And i'm excited to SEE i do 755 00:30:57,119 --> 00:30:59,759 hope they come face to face before this season. END 756 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,559 i feel like it has to has to. Happen i'll 757 00:31:02,559 --> 00:31:03,960 be a little disappointed if we don't get. 758 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 3: That so, yeah BUT i liked it. 759 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,039 Speaker 5: ALL i, mean, like what's With heather in the room? 760 00:31:09,079 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 4: Too just add more tensions mm mmm. 761 00:31:11,079 --> 00:31:13,599 Speaker 5: HMMM i, like what are we gonna do for the 762 00:31:13,599 --> 00:31:18,519 next two episodes? Here now the news is out of the. Picture, 763 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:19,440 YEAH i. 764 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,599 Speaker 1: GUESS i imagine it's dealing with this Task, Force but 765 00:31:23,119 --> 00:31:25,759 LIKE i think we've heard the Task force is gonna continue, 766 00:31:25,839 --> 00:31:30,160 on SO i. DON'T i Know frank's, there SO i 767 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,559 don't know what the next inciting incident. IS i don't 768 00:31:32,559 --> 00:31:34,799 know if it's literally just next week we. Start, hey 769 00:31:34,799 --> 00:31:36,319 we're After daredevil and that's what it. 770 00:31:36,359 --> 00:31:40,119 Speaker 3: Is it's the hunt for because like he does know It's. 771 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:41,559 Speaker 1: Matt i've always said that since the beginning of the, 772 00:31:41,599 --> 00:31:43,680 episode like it should be pretty easy For fisk to 773 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,000 deal with this, time like he's the mayor and he 774 00:31:46,039 --> 00:31:48,200 knows who daredel. Is just have that Task force waiting 775 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,960 at his house ready to, go guns are. BLAZING i don't, 776 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,119 know like IT'S i don't think we would. Be but 777 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,480 is there ever a situation where Like matt gets kidnapped 778 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,680 And frank sees them the news and that's what makes 779 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,599 it gets him in? There like episode Is daredevil versus 780 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,599 the Task force and then episode nine is The Punisher daredeld. 781 00:32:05,599 --> 00:32:07,559 Speaker 5: THING i don't know THAT'S i feel like he's definitely 782 00:32:07,559 --> 00:32:10,759 gonna declare war on like any mass. VIGILANT i mean 783 00:32:10,799 --> 00:32:12,119 he already kind of has a little, bit BUT i 784 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,079 feel like he's gonna double down on that next, episode 785 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,759 so trying to get the people to be against Dared 786 00:32:16,759 --> 00:32:19,000 devil as, well and Then i'm sure that'll cause a 787 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,039 little mini civil war with the RANDOM bb clips of 788 00:32:22,079 --> 00:32:24,119 people like, OH i Like Dared, Blo like he's a good. 789 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,480 GUY i don't think we should go after him this, 790 00:32:26,519 --> 00:32:27,240 before you. 791 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 2: Know, yeah, yeah it might be like a big thing 792 00:32:29,759 --> 00:32:32,680 too of like his last two episodes just putting a 793 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,079 lot more pressure On fisk and like like the persona 794 00:32:36,119 --> 00:32:38,079 that he's trying to come across of like he's he's 795 00:32:38,119 --> 00:32:40,200 the mayor doing good for the. CITY i think maybe 796 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,519 they'll just be more cracks for me on like people 797 00:32:42,599 --> 00:32:44,640 just seeing him maybe more as a sketchy guy or 798 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,559 as a, crook because we already kind of saw a 799 00:32:46,599 --> 00:32:48,839 little bit of that when they were at that fundraiser. 800 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:53,440 Thing hated, Him, yeah, yeah everybody. 801 00:32:53,279 --> 00:32:57,359 Speaker 3: Hated him so bitn. 802 00:32:58,799 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 4: Ones who choose who. 803 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:05,759 Speaker 1: Eats, yeah and that's why in two, Years, yeah that's 804 00:33:05,759 --> 00:33:09,480 why you clear and even and same thing. Too it's, 805 00:33:09,519 --> 00:33:12,759 Like I'm i'm wondering because we talk about The adam 806 00:33:13,599 --> 00:33:16,039 thread and he's still. Alive i'm wondering the next two 807 00:33:16,039 --> 00:33:18,400 episodes of like BECAUSE i think mean dealing on the same, Page, 808 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,920 kirk and you might feel like you didn't say a 809 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,680 fishy where are you on the Is vanessa and fists 810 00:33:23,759 --> 00:33:25,559 like they're gonna make it out the season? 811 00:33:25,559 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 3: Together are they gonna be breaking? 812 00:33:26,759 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: Apart Like i'm wondering if she's gonna find what he 813 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,200 did To adam and she's like gonna enjoy, that you, 814 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,400 know because it's, like, oh the Old fisk is back 815 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,759 in a way, right like he's stuck, up like like 816 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,839 she almost like she said she didn't want touch. Him 817 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,720 that was almost like LIKE i can't if you say, 818 00:33:41,759 --> 00:33:42,839 Don't they're gonna you, know. 819 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,319 Speaker 5: But then she'll go up to the, cage he'll stick 820 00:33:45,319 --> 00:33:47,880 his hands through touch her, face and then she smelts 821 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,680 and those hands. 822 00:33:49,559 --> 00:33:50,039 Speaker 3: And that's when he. 823 00:33:50,079 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 2: Comes, YEAH i, Mean i'm more on the side that 824 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,640 like they're MORE i want to, say like More vanessa 825 00:33:58,839 --> 00:34:01,240 is against like the whole fist, thing just because SHE 826 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,599 i really feel like she strongly needs to have her 827 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,799 finger on the pulse of like running the business and 828 00:34:06,839 --> 00:34:10,360 if she's not okay with just being like the one Beside, kingpin, 829 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,400 like she does want to be the one running the. 830 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 4: Show AND i think. 831 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:18,119 Speaker 2: That'll be a consistent thing to the end of that 832 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,960 character or that characters or whatever it might, be or 833 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,400 just the relationship. ITSELF i think that'll really be the 834 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,519 main thing that prevents her from like just signing With. 835 00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:30,039 Speaker 4: Fisk BUT i could also see it. Happening i'm just 836 00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:33,079 a lower chance of it. BEING i don't. Know they 837 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:33,679 it's like. 838 00:34:33,639 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 2: A mister and Missus smith thing where they're like beating 839 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,679 the ship at each other and then they just start 840 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,440 making out and then that's when they you know. Close, 841 00:34:40,559 --> 00:34:44,079 yeah My, banansa his hands are like. 842 00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: MINE i wonder if it's a situation, though where they 843 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,880 just come to the agreement that she is gonna be 844 00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:51,400 the kingpin in since but he'll still be mayor right 845 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,320 where he's gonna, Go, LIKE i can't. 846 00:34:53,039 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 3: Do all these, things but trust, you. 847 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:55,079 Speaker 4: He's okay with. 848 00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:57,599 Speaker 2: THAT i feel, like deep down he is the kingpin 849 00:34:57,679 --> 00:34:59,440 and he is the one that just needs to be 850 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,159 running the. Show but Maybe i'm wrong with, that but 851 00:35:01,159 --> 00:35:03,039 that's just the Vibule i'm getting so. FAR i do 852 00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:07,800 believe that she would have had some some positive business 853 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,199 dealings if that hit went. 854 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,199 Speaker 4: Through, yeah With, Kingpin. 855 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,159 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that because we got the, finale AND 856 00:35:13,199 --> 00:35:15,719 i imagine that's Where frank might. BE i bet next 857 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,360 week we get a resolution one way or another On Fisker. 858 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,599 Vanessa either they are together or they're you, know. Separated you, 859 00:35:22,639 --> 00:35:24,360 Know i'm not saying That fist is gonna kill, her 860 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,639 but even if it's like a separation and you, know, 861 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,800 okay because that could be fun, too or he's the 862 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,760 mayor trying to do criminal things and she's being a 863 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,679 kingpin on the, side and it's kind of, like Maybe 864 00:35:32,679 --> 00:35:34,039 fists can't bring himself to kill. 865 00:35:34,039 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 3: Her you, know she clearly would kill him if that 866 00:35:36,639 --> 00:35:37,440 hit was the other way. 867 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 1: Around BUT i, SAID i think they'll resolve it next, 868 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,800 week AND i think they're GONNA i think they're gonna 869 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:42,239 figure it out. 870 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 3: Somehow don't know. WHY i don't know. 871 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 5: How BUT i also feel like, now like a lot 872 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,760 of their more intense conversations this season have happened through 873 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,480 the context of being in the therapy session With heather, 874 00:35:52,559 --> 00:35:56,079 there and so Obviously fisk mostly is like a, high very, 875 00:35:56,159 --> 00:35:59,480 muted he's not sharing, much he's not being very, emotional 876 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,159 Where vanessa is like the one who's kind of dumping 877 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,880 more on, like, actually you, know doing what they should 878 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,239 be doing in those. Sessions but now that they probably, 879 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:08,880 won't you, KNOW i don't they're gonna make a session. 880 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,880 Happen she'll probably be in the hospital or out a. 881 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,519 Commission for the last last two episodes, HERE i could 882 00:36:13,559 --> 00:36:15,840 see those conversations that they have between each other just 883 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,400 be a lot more heated now that they don't have 884 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,039 that mediator in the. Room so maybe that is what 885 00:36:20,199 --> 00:36:22,840 like kind of leads to a full on break between. 886 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 1: Them they're so desperate they go to the hospital and 887 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,199 like make her do a session while she's in the, 888 00:36:27,199 --> 00:36:28,760 bed and it's, like, oh at that, time. 889 00:36:28,639 --> 00:36:31,039 Speaker 5: Like matts in the corner like hiding behind like the 890 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:32,599 curtain or. 891 00:36:32,519 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 3: Something or he's like in the. 892 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 1: Bathroom you can hear it all going on because it's, 893 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,519 like oh, yeah he's, like oh my, god is, there 894 00:36:38,559 --> 00:36:40,199 but we really need a session right. 895 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 2: NOW i love that just goes to akick cut of 896 00:36:43,039 --> 00:36:44,599 in the bathroom just taking a shit or something in 897 00:36:44,639 --> 00:36:46,400 stall and be, like what is that. 898 00:36:46,199 --> 00:36:47,559 Speaker 4: They're here they're talking? 899 00:36:47,599 --> 00:36:52,280 Speaker 1: About emily, asked is THAT i just was having fun 900 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,280 with it because you, know So matt he gets back 901 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,880 there very good. Timing he's shining his blood off, them 902 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,639 and then she walks him right, after so it could 903 00:36:58,679 --> 00:36:59,159 have been awkward. 904 00:36:59,199 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 3: Situation she sees his bruise on his. 905 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: Back he just decides that the best response is just 906 00:37:03,519 --> 00:37:06,119 to get on with they're and then after they're talking about, 907 00:37:06,159 --> 00:37:08,280 that she's given the whole therapy. Session BUT i would, 908 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,000 say LIKE i made the joke, like, oh well he's, 909 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,239 blind he falls a, lot but like on his back 910 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:17,599 is literal like war like superhero, Scars like these aren't 911 00:37:17,679 --> 00:37:19,880 just like oh he's fallen, down like they are massive, 912 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,440 Scars so you have to, think, like now they've THEY'RE 913 00:37:22,679 --> 00:37:26,480 i don't think they're living, together but ARE i think they? 914 00:37:26,519 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 3: ARE i don't. 915 00:37:27,039 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 5: Know she has a key to the. Apartment, yeah. 916 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: Definitely like and that's one Thing i'll say about the, 917 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,320 Show like their, RELATIONSHIP i feel like moved very. Fast 918 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,039 like it went from, oh they kind of got set 919 00:37:36,119 --> 00:37:38,079 up to LIKE i don't think that much time has 920 00:37:38,119 --> 00:37:41,199 passed to they, are you, know roommates, everything and like 921 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,559 now she's the damsel in distress like all this. Stuff but, 922 00:37:45,559 --> 00:37:48,840 YEAH i JUST i guess no questions about THE i 923 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,719 guess other ladies like trying to. 924 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,679 Speaker 3: THINK i guess other ladies don't have these. QUESTIONS i 925 00:37:53,679 --> 00:37:55,800 guess either they just assume that they're just scars and. 926 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 1: Whatnot like him And karen actually never as far as we, 927 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,559 knew got together in the, series And electra obviously she 928 00:38:01,679 --> 00:38:02,480 dole these scars and. 929 00:38:02,519 --> 00:38:03,760 Speaker 3: Stuff but and she. 930 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 1: Hulks she won't ask any, questions, right she'd, understand, okay 931 00:38:06,559 --> 00:38:08,840 like he's getting these. Scars but you think she might 932 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,239 have especially now she's like where do you? Go LIKE 933 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:12,840 i just come home and you're Missing he's, like, oh, 934 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:13,719 Well i'm doing my lower. 935 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,199 Speaker 3: Stuff she's, like your briefcase is? Here is Like, oh, 936 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,559 Well i'm just. Embarrassed stop asking me about. 937 00:38:18,599 --> 00:38:21,320 Speaker 5: It, well that's the, thing like since she since she 938 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,760 actually saw the, fight she might be, like, OH i 939 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,519 remember When muse kicked him in the hip right. 940 00:38:26,559 --> 00:38:29,320 Speaker 3: Here, yeah he did slice his thigh at one point. 941 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:30,280 Too that don't probably be the. 942 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,159 Speaker 5: Giveaway, yeah even though she seems super, loopy but, Like 943 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,159 i'm sure she'll remember. That i'll come back to her 944 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,199 a spider, man you, know when he's bleeding bike. 945 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 3: As they're having. 946 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,119 Speaker 1: Sex how'd you get that scar bike? Messenger knock me? 947 00:38:43,199 --> 00:38:46,760 DOWN i have to, go, father you just. GO i 948 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,599 did like that moment when he was in music his 949 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:54,800 camp where he that shitty cop comes, In, yeah, yeah 950 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,119 and he's, like oh, fuck like like he didn't mean 951 00:38:57,119 --> 00:38:59,360 to hit him that. Hard BUT i enjoyed that little 952 00:38:59,400 --> 00:38:59,920 segment thing. 953 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,800 Speaker 2: Too that cop like like got knocked, out like woke 954 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:08,239 up and then he caused, yeah like doesn't really mention 955 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,280 that he just got fucking knocked out by Darried ol or. 956 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:11,840 Speaker 4: Anything it was just a strange. 957 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,280 Speaker 1: Sequence and again even this episode and, fiscals he's, like, 958 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,199 oh SHOULD i put an apb Out he's like, no, no, 959 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,960 No like you go to the Task force will take 960 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,880 care of, it and he's like he looks always so 961 00:39:20,039 --> 00:39:21,719 not sold in the task for this. Cop but then 962 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,199 when they go in the, scene they actually like going. 963 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:24,840 Down BUT i remember in the speech a couple of weeks, 964 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,480 ago he's always just like like a little, confused LIKE 965 00:39:27,519 --> 00:39:30,039 i don't understand where his character is going. 966 00:39:30,199 --> 00:39:31,840 Speaker 3: Up sure, maybe, well ACTUALLY. 967 00:39:31,599 --> 00:39:33,320 Speaker 1: I know he's gonna be going to the fucking grave 968 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,719 And frank finds him next, WEEK i. GET i think 969 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,760 he's a cop that fucking If frank sees it's it's 970 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:39,320 over for. 971 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 3: HIM i can't. 972 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,199 Speaker 1: Remember does he is A i think he's a punisher 973 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:43,639 tattoos for, HIM i, think. 974 00:39:43,519 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 3: RIGHT i think he's one of those. Cops, yeah, yeah 975 00:39:47,519 --> 00:39:49,480 SO i think any cop that has That frank, is. 976 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,320 Speaker 5: They all got it, somewhere whether it's a tramp stamp or. 977 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 1: A massive back tattoo like this is wrath like just 978 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,880 like punish your. Skull but and then we got more, 979 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,880 again which a with just one scene Of matt's little 980 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,400 sidekicks there they're doing the same thing as The karen 981 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,760 And paid or The Foggying karen for season, two where, 982 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,119 yeah where he's, like you can't do this blah, blah 983 00:40:11,159 --> 00:40:13,199 and then when he leaves the, room she's, like, well 984 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,639 there's something going, on and you guys talk and he 985 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,559 leaves me the same. Thing camera would be, like, oh what's. 986 00:40:17,639 --> 00:40:19,920 Up so they're just running that. Back but, AGAIN i 987 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,280 Guess i'm okay because they're in it so. LITTLE i 988 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,840 just could kind of just again cut this all, out 989 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,880 just as last Week daredevil Found mews pretty, easily AND 990 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,679 i feel, like, Again daredevil a whole week work. Himself 991 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,079 he went to talk To White tiger's niece and then 992 00:40:34,119 --> 00:40:36,960 went to his. Layer you don't need this cop helping him, Out, like, 993 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:37,719 so we're not. 994 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,280 Speaker 5: Gonna any more lawyer stuff for the rest of this 995 00:40:39,679 --> 00:40:40,159 season at. 996 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,320 Speaker 1: Least so, Yeah So i'm very curious in season two 997 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:47,039 how much they're gonna be actually in the, show because 998 00:40:47,039 --> 00:40:49,159 it just feels like already they're transitioned to Like Matt, 999 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,360 well he's not doing his, job and then he doesn't 1000 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,360 need this guy for The daredevil, Stuff like what are 1001 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,880 they doing around Because i'm not sure it's this. LADY 1002 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,519 i can't remember her, name but it's like New. Partners 1003 00:40:57,519 --> 00:40:59,719 she's gonna like fire him or want to part ways 1004 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,559 because she, says, recently he's been missing a, lot and 1005 00:41:02,599 --> 00:41:05,119 that happened before With, foggy, Right, so and if she 1006 00:41:05,119 --> 00:41:06,920 doesn't know the, secret she's just gonna think he's. 1007 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 3: Slacking or he's got to alcohol. Problem so he can't 1008 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:09,880 work with that. 1009 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 5: Guy for, Two we've got a lot of, Bruises, matt 1010 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:11,800 what's going? 1011 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 3: On i'm. Embarrassed don't talk to me about. 1012 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,559 Speaker 4: His name's on the like the law firm too? 1013 00:41:17,639 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: Right it's, yeah but so was uh so Was Nelson 1014 00:41:22,119 --> 00:41:24,360 Rrock and that's split up too, Right SO i. 1015 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,039 Speaker 2: Know but it's, LIKE i don't feel like she can 1016 00:41:26,079 --> 00:41:28,320 just fire, him like they're, like, no the people are 1017 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:28,760 running the. 1018 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,079 Speaker 3: Firm but she could ask for a separation MAYBE i don't. 1019 00:41:31,119 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 4: Know, Yeah. No the sequence definitely felt like we. 1020 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,760 Speaker 3: Haven't had to cross that road yet as a. Partnership 1021 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,400 luckily we haven't asked to, ask you, know we get 1022 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,000 rid of a. Person, Yeah taylor more episode it's. 1023 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,599 Speaker 5: Open wondering Where taylor. Is we asked him to step 1024 00:41:43,639 --> 00:41:44,679 down and he's considering. 1025 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,400 Speaker 1: It that's a special. Assignment he's talking with a lawyer's 1026 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:47,880 stat right. 1027 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,119 Speaker 3: Now it's, like what CAN i do? Well seventy five 1028 00:41:50,199 --> 00:41:50,840 versus twenty? 1029 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 4: Five, yeah, NO i what WAS i talking? About lawyer 1030 00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:58,400 the lawyer. 1031 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,159 Speaker 2: Friend, yeah definitely felt like we had treed that path 1032 00:42:01,199 --> 00:42:03,519 already with like The karens of the, world The foggies 1033 00:42:03,519 --> 00:42:06,760 of the world from the Previous daredell. SHOW i don't, 1034 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,800 know LIKE I i like this this, character, uh BUT 1035 00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:11,960 i feel LIKE i mostly just like her for the. 1036 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 4: Amount that she's used and, uh just leave it. 1037 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 1: There, yeah is there anything else we're? Missing we talked 1038 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:24,400 about that actual did you guys like the actual just 1039 00:42:24,519 --> 00:42:26,239 build up of a news. SCENE i liked that of 1040 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,519 him talking To. AGAIN i kind of wish we got 1041 00:42:28,559 --> 00:42:31,679 more sessions throughout the show because it was weird that 1042 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,039 in the pilot we're, like, oh, LIKE i really need your, 1043 00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:36,719 help and then we're, like did he ever get therapy? 1044 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 3: Sessions did he? Not and then in this it just shows, That, 1045 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,920 okay it's been the whole. Time SO i like the. 1046 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,559 Speaker 1: SETUP i thought the guy was being creepy, enough AND 1047 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,400 i thought she actually did a good job in that 1048 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,719 scene as well of trying to still talk to him 1049 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,480 about realizing she's having it's over for you moment if 1050 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,400 he's getting, slow and then once you wake up and 1051 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:53,039 he's fully in the. 1052 00:42:53,079 --> 00:42:55,840 Speaker 3: Caution it's, like oh, yeah there's your you're kind of fucked. 1053 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:56,679 Here it's it's. 1054 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,679 Speaker 1: Done and the police did say he was planning a 1055 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,880 murder of. SUICIDE i didn't get. THAT i didn't get that. 1056 00:43:02,039 --> 00:43:04,000 VIBE i just got the viby has a. 1057 00:43:04,079 --> 00:43:06,639 Speaker 2: Gun but that's what they're trained to, do, right because 1058 00:43:06,639 --> 00:43:08,639 they're just bad. Cops they're just going there shoot. Whoever 1059 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:13,400 it's like it was a murder. Suicide, yeah, right, gone, yeah. 1060 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,760 Speaker 1: Yeah we didn't even talk, about Like befred mentioned she's 1061 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:16,599 the one actually killed. 1062 00:43:16,599 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 3: Them they're. 1063 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,320 Speaker 1: Fighting there's that brutal moment Where matt shot the baton 1064 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:25,960 through his. Shoulder for a, second, yeah, yeah for a 1065 00:43:26,039 --> 00:43:27,719 SECOND i thought it was like through his, heart as, 1066 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,360 like oh my, God matt is off the deep. End 1067 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,800 he's just like murdering people the. Batons but, no he 1068 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,360 did that, music got some sort of knife and then 1069 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,599 she killed him and. Everything so again funny That matt's, 1070 00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:38,880 like oh, yeah you had to do. It but, again 1071 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,199 he won't kill, people but all these people around, Him 1072 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,639 karen Her, frank like he's. 1073 00:43:43,519 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 3: Just with a bunch of. Murderers his stick would always 1074 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:45,840 be killing. 1075 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,679 Speaker 1: People Jessica jones don't, care so it's just Just matt 1076 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,639 trying his best. Here but, yeah she killed, Them So 1077 00:43:50,639 --> 00:43:54,079 i'm wondering if that's gonna have some repercussions for her 1078 00:43:54,119 --> 00:43:54,559 too going. 1079 00:43:54,599 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 4: Forward so mm, HMM i don't think. 1080 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 2: SO i think it'll probably be just the amount that 1081 00:44:00,519 --> 00:44:02,519 it was in this episode when she just kind of 1082 00:44:02,519 --> 00:44:06,239 has that. REALIZATION i like how it played, out like 1083 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,760 the actual fight. Sequence it was funny, too When matt 1084 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,599 like we kept dragging him around and he was on 1085 00:44:11,679 --> 00:44:13,400 like that tarp that he laid out and he was 1086 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,039 just like blood smearing all. Over in my, Mind i'm, 1087 00:44:16,039 --> 00:44:18,840 like there's gonna be some like weird art project or. 1088 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,679 Something they're gonna like lift the body and it's gonna 1089 00:44:20,679 --> 00:44:22,320 be like just an art design or. 1090 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:26,360 Speaker 4: Something but they weren't going all out on that on 1091 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:27,360 the musisms of. 1092 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,119 Speaker 5: It but draws like a map to like punishers hideout or. 1093 00:44:30,159 --> 00:44:31,639 Speaker 4: Something, yeah like like something like. 1094 00:44:31,639 --> 00:44:34,679 Speaker 2: That It's heather's face all textured, again you, know feeling it, 1095 00:44:34,679 --> 00:44:39,000 afterwards but, yeah, yeah they walk in the, Room matt's 1096 00:44:39,079 --> 00:44:40,119 just feeling up this. 1097 00:44:40,199 --> 00:44:44,840 Speaker 1: Thing, yeah, yeah n't did you like even the muse 1098 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,920 human stuff bashing or was that still kind of mad for? 1099 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,719 Speaker 5: You, no just it felt it felt quite rushed and 1100 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:56,079 felt like very, predictable Like inceel sort of storyline sort of. 1101 00:44:56,079 --> 00:44:58,199 Thing AND i THINK i agree with what you said 1102 00:44:58,199 --> 00:45:00,920 there of like maybe we should a couple of scenes 1103 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,079 building up to, This AND i think it's one of 1104 00:45:03,119 --> 00:45:05,760 those things where like maybe the surprise wouldn't have been, 1105 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,719 there like you've already been kind of predicting this whole 1106 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,280 like or talking about this whole, time like we know 1107 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,199 that's you, Know, Mews we're getting ready for that kind of. 1108 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,199 Thing SO i don't, know maybe a couple more scenes 1109 00:45:13,199 --> 00:45:14,880 would have would have done, it BUT i guess it 1110 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,840 was weird only HAVE i, guess in hindsight like two 1111 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,599 scenes of him as As, bastion which feels were to 1112 00:45:20,639 --> 00:45:21,960 say bashing now Because i'm just thinking of like THE 1113 00:45:22,039 --> 00:45:23,079 X men villain WHEN i. 1114 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 3: Say, no he's gonna come back. 1115 00:45:26,119 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 5: Very underpowered compared to his x very. There but, yeah 1116 00:45:31,039 --> 00:45:33,760 it didn't really work for. ME i think just as, 1117 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,119 well everything kind of felt predictable with this sequence in 1118 00:45:36,119 --> 00:45:37,920 this episode in. GENERAL i think that's WHY i wasn't 1119 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,159 as excited by. It so we'll see what happens in 1120 00:45:40,199 --> 00:45:42,519 these next, two but just, UH i don't, know kind 1121 00:45:42,519 --> 00:45:42,760 of buy the. 1122 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,039 Speaker 1: NUMBERS i wasn't sure too if you, heard because you're 1123 00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:47,960 having your issues. There the next two are the full 1124 00:45:48,039 --> 00:45:50,480 episodes that were in the, overhaul so they have none 1125 00:45:50,559 --> 00:45:52,599 of The Old guard episodes of like some of these 1126 00:45:52,599 --> 00:45:54,559 episodes are like a mix of new shots and old. 1127 00:45:54,599 --> 00:45:57,960 SHOTS a nine are completely from starting to finish new 1128 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,719 because like, that BECAUSE i don't know which episode he's 1129 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,280 ina be, like oh, see what's his? Name John berthnall, 1130 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,360 said like he declined to be in the first version, 1131 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:06,920 show so that's how he's in one of those. 1132 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,320 Speaker 3: Episodes so that's WHAT i. 1133 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:09,760 Speaker 5: Do you think he's coming, Back we're gonna get one 1134 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:10,960 more episode of him or is he gonna? 1135 00:46:11,119 --> 00:46:12,199 Speaker 1: BOTH i. 1136 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,559 Speaker 3: DON'T i don't. 1137 00:46:14,559 --> 00:46:17,280 Speaker 5: KNOW i don't story, WISE i don't really see what 1138 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:18,559 he would do at. All LIKE i feel like we 1139 00:46:18,559 --> 00:46:19,880 haven't really been killing for him to go. 1140 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,800 Speaker 1: Out he's killing some. COPS i think it's it's over 1141 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,239 for some of those. COPS i think he's gonna be 1142 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,760 boots to the, ground he's gonna think about. 1143 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:28,800 Speaker 3: IT i just don't know. 1144 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 1: Either to, me it's eight and then it's Just matt's 1145 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,239 finale or the end of eight is a setup and 1146 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,159 Then frank is there at the end of, that because 1147 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:38,800 that can be an, exciting you know. 1148 00:46:39,039 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 5: Finale you feel, like do you Think frank's gonna like know, 1149 00:46:41,639 --> 00:46:44,840 that like when they're holding up the mask Of mews 1150 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,320 that they like didn't actually find, it BECAUSE i feel 1151 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,000 like If punished is at, like, oh they took a 1152 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,559 savage murder off the, streets maybe they're not so bad 1153 00:46:52,599 --> 00:46:55,119 even if they The hectoryola thing was pretty. 1154 00:46:55,119 --> 00:46:58,639 Speaker 1: SISS i think when he if it's just them holding up, 1155 00:46:58,679 --> 00:47:01,119 maybe BUT i think with fifth, there that's when he's 1156 00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:02,440 gonna be like something's. 1157 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 5: And LIKE i don't he's like half, smirk smile thing 1158 00:47:05,039 --> 00:47:05,760 that looks so. 1159 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 3: Yeah like that that's WHAT i. Think it's the tiff 1160 00:47:08,519 --> 00:47:10,760 off For frank is the Second easy's fiscal. 1161 00:47:11,079 --> 00:47:13,559 Speaker 1: BULLSHIT i didn't like that didn't, Happen red was a 1162 00:47:13,599 --> 00:47:16,480 part of it or yet To so, Again i'm kind 1163 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,519 of liking the theory that they capture him and then 1164 00:47:18,519 --> 00:47:19,800 that's how they that's how you Get. 1165 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 3: Punisher but do you. 1166 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,800 Speaker 1: Want to make it The punisher show for last? EPISODE 1167 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,960 i don't, know but, Hey Disney plus has done it, 1168 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,639 before you, know so mm. Hmm anything else from this 1169 00:47:28,679 --> 00:47:31,360 episode or anything talk about for next. 1170 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:36,360 Speaker 5: Week all my blood has been. Transfused, Yeah rip, mused 1171 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:36,760 will see. 1172 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:36,880 Speaker 1: You. 1173 00:47:37,079 --> 00:47:40,039 Speaker 3: UH i don't. Know Marvel. Snap maybe he's got a card. 1174 00:47:40,079 --> 00:47:42,599 Speaker 5: YET i don't think he is In Marvel snap actually 1175 00:47:42,599 --> 00:47:42,840 one of the. 1176 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:43,519 Speaker 4: Few he's not in. 1177 00:47:43,519 --> 00:47:45,679 Speaker 3: There surprised they didn't do like a dared double season 1178 00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,599 or something for this, show like FOR. 1179 00:47:48,519 --> 00:47:51,320 Speaker 5: I think they did like a someone Bulls eye was added. 1180 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,440 RECENTLY i think it was like A. Daredevils i've been 1181 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:55,719 out of the game for a few. MONTHS i don't. 1182 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 3: Know, okay well maybe you'll see him there and if, not, 1183 00:47:59,199 --> 00:48:00,199 YEAH i. Don't i'm With. 1184 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:01,920 Speaker 1: KIRKLAND i wish there was a way that they could 1185 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,639 have held the masks and still just say they caught. 1186 00:48:03,679 --> 00:48:05,719 HIM i know even, then if she would have shot, 1187 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:06,360 HIM i would have. 1188 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,599 Speaker 3: Liked if he. Survived but, yeah he's, down but at 1189 00:48:08,679 --> 00:48:09,239 Least kirkland's. 1190 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,480 Speaker 1: Fair BULLS i still in, prison and we know we'll 1191 00:48:11,519 --> 00:48:13,280 be seeing him again at some point because he. Is, 1192 00:48:13,519 --> 00:48:17,000 yeah it's, COMING i think so it could be because 1193 00:48:17,039 --> 00:48:18,800 there's still one scene of from the trail of him 1194 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,320 in the prison and it's we haven't seen that. 1195 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:21,719 Speaker 5: Yet OH i forgot. 1196 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,039 Speaker 3: That, yeah SO i don't. KNOW i don't know if 1197 00:48:24,079 --> 00:48:24,800 that's also. 1198 00:48:24,599 --> 00:48:26,559 Speaker 1: Just like a tease for season two where it's really 1199 00:48:26,639 --> 00:48:28,639 just someone breaking them, out being like you could be on. 1200 00:48:28,599 --> 00:48:30,440 Speaker 3: The task, Force LIKE i don't think fists should do, 1201 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:34,760 that but you never. KNOW i don't think, so but you, 1202 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,079 know because you know he tried to kill fist spot my. 1203 00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:38,519 Speaker 4: Girlfriend it's like The frozen. 1204 00:48:38,599 --> 00:48:40,559 Speaker 3: Chick yeah you still. Frozen. 1205 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, anyways, well we'll be back next. 1206 00:48:44,119 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 3: Week maybe Mister field will be, back who. 1207 00:48:46,039 --> 00:48:48,360 Speaker 1: Knows we'll talk to our, lawyers but, uh we'll be 1208 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,599 back next week for episode four or episode eight to 1209 00:48:50,599 --> 00:48:52,480 them an ultimate, episode And i'll not be. 1210 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:53,079 Speaker 3: Boring