Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to the Daredevil
Born Again Review Series Episode seven. I'm the Man without
a Name Trash.
Speaker 2: Now I'm joined by I Am the face Toucher, Kirker
face Toucher.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's some face touch we're gonna talk about. We
should hopefully be joined by mister Muss have some internet issues.
Speaker 3: He was just here a second.
Speaker 1: No, so we'll see Taylor out an assignment. He's been
very cagey about where he is, but you know he's
he's out there in the ether. We'll off to see
what he says when he gets back. But uh, yeah,
we're here episode seven, one week away from the penultimate
episode of Daredevil. And yeah, Kirkle, I'm gonna throw it
to you first because we didn't get your thoughts next
week or for last week, and then might get some.
Speaker 3: Reaction out here next week. No, I'm here, okay, he says.
Speaker 1: Then one Cherryville trip and it's over. But yeah, what
did you think about last week? At the last week
we got the Bank episode and then we got some uh,
the the Devil back and then you can transition that
into your thoughts for for this week.
Speaker 3: No, oh yeah, thank you doltin. We're on the side
quest background.
Speaker 1: We uh oh what happened now alone?
Speaker 3: I didn't mean that, you hear me. That's weird, but
uh thank you. Yeah, I'll switch that. But yeah, what
do you think about these last three episodes?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I watched them pretty close together. I watched the
other two just yesterday, and uh, I was I want
to say, like a little bit let down, like particularly
by like the first episode of the two. I guess
I'll talk spoilers because people have seen that untill now.
Just yeah, like the whole like Kamala like like just
tie in or attachment or whatever they're they're just setting up.
It just seemed like really shoehorned in and really forced
and like really like oh my daughter Kamala, Like yeah,
we call her Miss Marvel, Like you know this character
this is a this is a bobbleheab of her. Look
like this is a funk of of Kamala. Kamala Like
it just seemed like so like just rammed on our
throats to like really double down and like, hey, in
case nobody's seen Miss Marvel, Like right, yeah, So I
liked the chemistry of Matt and him, like together like
I thought overall the episode was decent, Like the whole heist,
it just seemed a little bit out of place for me.
And then yeah, just just the whole like Kamala lead
up thing was just really forced for me. And it
seems like they've been there's been moments in the show
where maybe they've referenced like other things of the MCU,
and it just doesn't feel like that at all, like
that force.
Speaker 4: So that one just really stood out to me.
Speaker 2: But the episode after that, I really did enjoy, just
the whole setup of Matt gearing up at going into
like the bundle of episodes. I assumed it would have
happened a lot sooner, but it they really took their time.
It was like the back half of that second episode
when he suits up. But I wasn't disappointed. I thought
it was awesome. I was pretty hyped on it. And
the whole fight sequence with Mews really just dark and
creepy character. And yeah, the one thing I will say
on I can't remember her name, but it's uh, the
White Tigers, the niece niece. Yeah, I couldn't remember the
relation there, but I just find like all of her
dialogue sequences, I don't know if it's just like her
or the writing that they have for her. It just
seems like so corny and cheesy and just so like
generic the dialogue specifically with that character.
Speaker 1: It's funny you say that I have that exact same
thing with the female cop they have right now in
the bank, that whole scene like get me.
Speaker 3: No, like even like the.
Speaker 2: Like the bank robbery sequence, like when she's talking to
the bank robbery. Yeah, I had the same feeling.
Speaker 3: Get rid of all that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give because we've done this so many times
where we see an actor actress that aren't great and
we seem someone else fantastic. I'm gonna give them benefit.
And I would say it's just the writing of this,
but yeah, it's not Uh it's not great, and yeah,
don't worry, we will talk about all that stuff in
the commons people.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so so that that was like my only
like two hold ups, but overall it was still still good,
still up there. It's not perfect by any means, but uh, yeah.
Speaker 1: Where were you because I don't think you listened to
the reviews last week? But I said that because I
wanted to talk to you. And then he did make
those episodes of course, so you know that's the house
they would have it. But I remember you saying like, oh,
you know you're going back and forth. The final grade
of the show is going to be a fail. And
the week before I was like, Oh, I don't get that.
But then i'd seen those episodes last week because I
get what. I could understand that where are you on
the scale now? Where is it tipping? Is it more
in the past, You're still.
Speaker 4: Definitely more on the past side.
Speaker 2: I think like the actual crafting of the show I'm
able to like really appreciate. I think it was in
episode six. There's just a lot of moments where it
would go from like Fisks, like having a conversation with someone,
and then it would like blink to Matt and like
a situation that he's handling, and like sometimes it would
like still be Fisk and whoever he's talking to, but
then like it would be showing Matt, like just the
splicing of sequences and bouncing from Fisk to Matt. They've
done it multiple times throughout the season.
Speaker 3: The fight last week too, Yeah, getting fucked up.
Speaker 2: Yeah gives them an axe, tells what come out of them.
So just Yeah, like the actual craftsmanship of the show
I can really appreciate, and it is looking good, Like
I think the fight scenes have been looking better, you know,
minor spoilers the one in this episode there was there
was a couple of moments when I had to like rewind.
It just seemed like so brutal, almost like a Mortal
Kombat sequence all detail.
Speaker 4: Yeah it is when we get it.
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, I I think it'll be a pass
for me. It's it's it's yeah. I think we're past
the point of it being potentially like a fail overall,
because we're over Yeah, we're well over the halfway point now, right,
We've got.
Speaker 1: Two episodes left, And what's interesting is the next two
episodes are complete overhaul episodes.
Speaker 3: So I feel like that for.
Speaker 4: Me is like they rewrote it or something.
Speaker 1: So like there's lots of these like the first episode
I think was completely new one, and then lots of
the episodes from two to now were a mix of
some of the old show and then some of the
new stuff that they reshot and everything like that. Apparently
eight to nine are completely like top to bottom reshot
started over and everything like that.
Speaker 3: So that's where.
Speaker 1: I'm interested for next week because I so overall you
liked this episode, right, I don't want to cut off here?
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah I did to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the thumbs up for me, I think it's maybe
I don't think it's episode four punisher levels, but it's
probably the second best episode for me. Last week, I
thought there had some great moments. I just had some
issues with how quickly we got to things. Even mad
He's like, oh, the cops were looking for him. I
found him one night. I had issues with that because
it's like, how do we get there? It just felt
very easy to find mus and his layer and everything. Right,
So this week it's kind of cave accept that there's
a lot of stakes going on. So I think this
is probably my second favorite episode. But I still don't
think it's like anywhere near how good Episode four was.
But I can't remember where the fudge I was going
with this all. Oh, next, yeah, so we have this.
The next episodes to me are gonna be really an
indicator for my excitement for season two. I'm still excited
for season two because it's you know, I've not like
I've been disappointed aspects of the show, but not that disappointed.
Speaker 3: There's still great stuff.
Speaker 1: I love seeing Vincent Donofrio and Charlie Cox do their things,
you know, I think they're still great. And i've seen
some set photos of the season two. I'm juicing because
there's some things I've been asking for for years that
we're getting.
Speaker 3: So I'm pretty excited about that.
Speaker 1: But I'm really hoping eight and nine are at least
as quality. But I'm hoping for better because if those
two episodes really got the juice, that means okay, season two,
and it's kind of we've started over from this point
of view, same directors, writers going forward.
Speaker 3: It's like, hopefully that's a good sign, and yeah, I'm
excited to see where we go.
Speaker 1: I think this episode provided some exciting things that I
thought would happen later on. I think there's some stuff
with Fisk and Vanessa, which is like, again, it's like
I see some people being like, oh, it's the clearest
sign of this, but I really don't know, because I
feel like they left in a very ambiguous way. So
I've liked all that stuff. Yeah, No, I think it
was a good episode. Very excited for the next two
because either next week or the week after we're also
getting Frank back. I imagine here soon too, so I
just know we're that much closer. So yeah, overall like
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Speaker 3: And we are.
Speaker 1: Back SO i wanted to start. There Lord bison, Says
siss Knows vanessa set him up.
Speaker 3: These within a face. Bomb. NOW i took that as
like you could go either way with that.
Speaker 1: Though BECAUSE i feel like there's three. Things BECAUSE i
was very much heavily on the bandwagon Of fisk.
Speaker 3: Was gonna Kill.
Speaker 1: Vanessa these past few episodes have definitely been bonding a
bit more and there's been some some, kinship and also
the fact That fisks has kind of been like he's
gonna go he's gonna go back to the dark side
or he never, left felt, like, oh him And vanessa
might rekindle some.
Speaker 3: Stuff SO i was starting to switch.
Speaker 1: Over even last week they were talking about working together
and how politicians are fake like it felt like more
The daredevil Like netflix show near the endwards like their thickest.
Speaker 3: Thieves SO i think now we're gonna go two, ways
to be. HONEST i, Know i'm kind of backtracking WHAT i.
Speaker 1: Thought but either she set them up and he got
out of, it and that's gonna like someone impress, her
and even her doing that to him is gonna impress
her like, him or they just set up the mobster.
Guy Like fisk knew the complete, time especially the way
when he, said, like, oh make sure Ask vanessa when
she wants me to bring for the. Restaurant to, me
that was a tip off that they were almost in
on this hit thing, together because why would you say
that if she just like try to take your. LIFE
i feel like to, say, oh ask her for some.
Leftovers it's like that's kind of a weird way to,
Respond So i'm not completely on the bandwig and that
she was trying to get rid Of fisk one hundred
percent There, again that's WHY i appreciate the show that left,
ambiguous didn't answer that you can go either. WAY i
think they're really tone the line BECAUSE i think the
next episodes we're gonna find, out, okay issue with the machine.
NONE i Now i'm on the, bandwag AND i think
they're gonna work it out one way or.
Speaker 3: Another SO i could be. WRONG i Should MAYBE i.
Speaker 1: Could i'll look back and SAY i should with my
gut a couple of weeks, ago AND i Said fisk
was gonna kill, Her but, UH i think it's left
to up in the air right, now AND i could
go either way on.
Speaker 2: It so, YEAH i think we're gonna find, out like
the first time that they, meet like that the first
time they, meet they'll they'll be a good indicator and
onto what the motivation is. THERE i Think i'm more
on the side that she does kind of want him,
gone but, oh it also just seems like the, Easiest
like that's like the easiest, Setup so like maybe they're.
Speaker 4: Just tricking me with. That BUT i don't. KNOW i
just feel like the.
Speaker 2: Moments there's been a couple of moments throughout the show
already Where vanessa was, like oh, YEAH i was running
the business better before you came, back and, LIKE i
feel like that's still gonna be just bruin under skin.
Speaker 3: Forever really, Well brewin is still.
Speaker 1: Much he's been brewn on his thoughts fighting with that.
Wife we just we only just talked like a sliver
of spoilers with Some fisk And vanessa.
Speaker 3: Stuff so what do you think? Overall then you can start.
There he's he's so. Happy oh, okay just an evil.
Speaker 4: Smirk that was that was that got. Me it just
paused on. That, yeah it's too it's gonna.
Speaker 5: HOLD i feel it's gonna break.
Speaker 3: Again.
Speaker 1: One, yeah it's funny before air when you're like you're
just explained the bad WAY i.
Speaker 5: Heard you for another like ten seconds, After.
Speaker 3: Yeah he, Did and he's gonna smile right.
Speaker 1: Now so, uh Hopefully i'm gonna Goodwill dylan Mus, so
what did you think about the?
Speaker 3: Episode?
Speaker 5: Hi can you hear?
Speaker 4: Me and my work froze?
Speaker 3: Again so you're, here you're, Here.
Speaker 5: Okay i'm this is probably not gonna work But i'll
try for a bit and if it glitches out, again
get out.
Speaker 3: Here, okay fair.
Speaker 5: Enough, yeah this was A this is another underwhelming episode for.
Me so now we're on like a bit of a bad,
streak which is concerning for. Me uh, YEAH i don't.
KNOW i GUESS i just didn't find there to be
a whold of tention. HERE i think the THE i,
guess are we in spoilers? NOW i guess it would
get past.
Speaker 1: That you're.
Speaker 5: Fine, Yeah like the therapy section and that whole dynamic
and conversation just like didn't really work for. ME i
didn't love like the backstory we got for this, character
and now he's, gone so it's, Like, OKAY i guess
that was. That LIKE i feel like three weeks from,
NOW i will have forgotten About muse and we'll never
think about him again until maybe he comes up in
LIKE Mcu Golden geeks is like a meme or something like.
That BUT i feel Like i'll never think of this character,
again which is kind of a disappointed arc For, uh
what could have been something? Else and THEN i don't know, What,
LIKE i guess we had two more episodes. Here Now
fisk knows About matt And daredevil and all, That so
that'll be kind of the big tension for the next
two episodes. Here BUT i feel like it's gonna be
one of those Classic Disney plus rushed. Finales even though
we didn't have a six episode thing. Here we need
to get a full, nine but it still feels like
it's gonna be rushed whatever. HAPPENS i know we kind
of have this two season arc sort of situation going,
on but, yeah this is another disappointing week for. Me
BUT i not to say whole thoughts, again but are
you guys with me on this or do you guys
like this? Episode?
Speaker 1: No this is probably my second, favorite BUT i can
also say that it's, like Because i've had a, LOT
i think there's been more episodes that you guys liked
more than, me, Right AND i don't THINK i still Say,
kirklan we're episode FOUR i think is high up for
me where this doesn't meet meet those type of layers
LIKE i enjoyed it the, most.
Speaker 3: But i've kind of had a like a like A
i don't, know.
Speaker 1: Melting pot of thoughts for the the other, one so
it's not like a high. Second BUT i don't think
it was as messy as last. WEEK i enjoyed some
of The mews, stuff even THOUGH i think it kind
of went TO i f AND i didn't. WANT i
still like the Cat mouse game With fisk And. Vanessa
i'm enjoying where we're at, there AND i think there's
some some good acting going.
Speaker 4: On so, Yeah, NO i definitely enjoyed it for the most. Part.
Speaker 2: Overall, HOWEVER i will SAY i am pretty underwhelmed With.
Speaker 4: Muse.
Speaker 2: OVERALL i just felt like we were really getting into the
thick of, it Like, okay this is gonna be our
big threat, here and just dismantled that, quickly and not
not just like The Point dexter route where you, know
he goes in jail and we're gonna touch back with
him a little bit. Later he also was really reminding
me Of Point dexter, actually like when he was just
going through his, uh His daredevil stuff in season, three
like just the therapy.
Speaker 4: Sessions he's just a really odd duck type of.
Speaker 1: Character so patron Producer mike and The discord said his
least fairit. Episode not a fan of how they Did,
muse and that's the. THING i could also, say there's
some that comic book bias THAT i have. Here but even, then,
LIKE i don't think it was done, Awful but it's
kind of funny how last WEEK i, Said, Oh i'm
really glad they didn't kill him, off and.
Speaker 3: Then they just killed him, off like, WELL i BECAUSE i, thought,
oh we have three more.
Speaker 1: Episodes they're probably gonna especially when he got to because
for the whole, Season i've been, saying, oh he's gonna kidnap,
her and that's gonna be more layers, there but they
just like they went fast forward on that where he
didn't get to do that he kidnapped, her but then
that led to like the. Death it felt like we
got the last three episodes truncated. Here SO i will
SAY i am disappointed, somewhat even.
Speaker 3: THOUGH i like the actor. PERFORMANCE i think they get
they good job to get him.
Speaker 1: Creepy and when he slicing her, arm like oh my,
god even in the hospital like they said she had
some minor, Lacerations i'm, like what doesn't look minor to?
Speaker 3: Me like he was deep so.
Speaker 5: Funny that the cops were, like whoever was here? Stabilizer i'm,
like what did he do? EXACTLY i was kind of
confused about.
Speaker 3: Like if you saw her army wrap something around The, yeah.
Speaker 5: But, no it's it's honestly the exact CONCERN i had
last week WHERE i was, Like, OKAY i feel like
when we were down in his, Den daredevil kind of dismantled,
him like pretty. Easily, yeah there was a bit of
a back and, forth but like he took him. Out
it was a very one sided. Fight in my, Opinions i'm,
like what else are we gonna build up? To and,
yeah like the answer was like nothing like another fight
where he you, know once, again he took a couple of,
hits but fair it was a two on ONE i,
guess so you can maybe say that was a bit
of disadvantage, Here but, YEAH i just felt, like why
did we even really let him get? Away especially If
heather's the like his the girlfriend's, name, Right, like considering
that she's lived through this, Encounter, like what really was the?
Point AND i guess it's probably gonna lead to her
discovering who he, Was BUT i thought he was gonna
tell her in the hospital room or something like do
that Reveal but the fact that we haven't done that
and she doesn't seem super suss of, it because it
seems like she was so low on blood the whole
sequence that she couldn't detect that, like, oh that's my
boyfriend's face right there That i'm seeing half of right.
Now So i'm curious to see what we, do BUT
i feel like it's not gonna build it. Anything AND
i just don't really know what the point of this.
Speaker 1: Was you don't feel like her saying, like oh he
knew my. NAME i feel like that was the BREAD.
Crubsa once she's fully off the, edge she's gonna figure
out that it's Like matt needs to shave that.
Speaker 3: Beard he cannot be daredel with that, beard that.
Speaker 5: Beer that's WHY i feel like they were trying to
play it off that she was so low on blood
and so loopy that she barely remembers the. Encounter and,
yes she remembers the name, part BUT i also he
was like in her office and presume that there's like
name plates, around so like maybe she would just think it's.
THAT i don't.
Speaker 1: KNOW i think between that and then the start of the,
episode she was asking he's been missing a, lot and
then he's also has these, INJURIES i think she will put.
Speaker 3: TOGETHER i don't know if it's the end of the,
season BUT i.
Speaker 1: Think they're laying leading to her putting it, together AND
i don't know if that means they stay together she
breaks up with them because he was, lying BECAUSE i
don't know if she's back for season two or what
the deal. IS i didn't think she was gonna die,
here BUT i actually thought she was gonna get her
eyes taken out because in the com book run that's
what he does the blind, spot so especially at one
point when he was choking, HER i thought always gonna blind.
Her but obviously mus is now, dead so he's not blinding.
Anybody's everyone's eyes are.
Speaker 3: Safe BUT i think she.
Speaker 1: Will find out based on. This i'm not gonna say
in this, season but in the next six, episodes so
that's kind of season. Two i'm gonna say maybe at
the beginning of season two starts with her like confronting
him because she was already talking About dariedel last. Week,
LIKE i feel like we're getting some bread. Crumbs AND
i think the only reason now they got they had
mus do this and kill them off here instead of
last week so they could do the Whole fisk hold
the mask up so they can show that Like god
a vigilante because they can't Get, punisher he's got a special.
Neck year we got season two a Dared devil and
then he's not gonna Get Spider man because you, Know
sony's not let him pop over.
Speaker 3: There and it's, like imagine.
Speaker 1: That imagine if Like sony And marvel broke up the
rights and that's how they did, it like to announce
like and we've got The Wall crawler AND i guess
Like White, tiger they couldn't do because the task wasn't,
There SO i guess that's what me. Served is He
but even, then it's like he's not a, vigilante like
he's there's this like he's a serial.
Speaker 3: Killer it's not the same. Thing, Yeah so.
Speaker 1: When anybody like picked that part and you just be, like,
no he's a he's just a straight. Criminal he's not
What daredevil and Like Luke Cage aharon, fistus like he's.
Speaker 3: Just a guy he killed sixty, people LIKE.
Speaker 2: I don't, know M, yeah, yeah it is stranger when
you put it that, way just like the symbolism of
like we got this like a symbol of this. Guy
but it's LIKE i don't know if if he was
just a terrorist wearing A Bella claba, mask would you
just like show That like.
Speaker 1: It's, yeah Strange and because of said you know other Vigilante,
daredevil two lives were, saved you, Know White tiger's niece
and then now the. Therapist so AND i guess the
only Thing i'm. WONDERING i don't know what's gonna happen next,
week BUT i thought that's How.
Speaker 3: Fisk And matt might meet one more.
Speaker 1: Time AS i Thought fisk and it still could, happen
might go visit her in the hospital out Of matt's their.
BEDSIDE i think that's a very entertaining thing because one
you get the confrontation of those. Two but then also we,
said like at some point they're gonna have to Like
matt's gonna have to find out she's been talking To
fisk right like even as a. Client SO i think
that might be another purpose of why she's alive is
to get that.
Speaker 5: Gun or maybe maybe there's like some flowers left there
By fisk or, something not that he, would but you
could find out about.
Speaker 3: It, yeah and any of these, flowers you.
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, SORRY i cut you, off like he showed
somewhat of like invested interest in the fact that you
know it was the therapist, downtown, Right like when who was?
Speaker 1: That was? It?
Speaker 4: Buck his Goal english? Book giving all this, information Whose.
Speaker 2: Buck's starting To he's starting to turn it up, this you,
know in the back half of the, season he's starting
to go Full, wesley pull out the.
Speaker 4: Guns BUT i just got, it, doubling.
Speaker 2: Doubling circling back To, HEATHER i do think that she
is gonna Confront matt about The daredevil this. SEASON i
think it's just too big of a bread crumbine thing
to leave for next, season to just not even have
it really touched upon. HERE i also just it's A superman,
effect you, know where people can just stare right at,
someone be like this is not the person THAT i
stare at all day every, day but multiple times now
in the, Show i'm just like, Man like like with
The White tiger's, Niece i'm just, like, man this is so,
Strange like he doesn't change his voice or, anything and
like she just talked to him like that, Day LIKE
i get.
Speaker 3: It this was in like a well lit.
Speaker 5: Room normally it's like in an alleyway at least so
you can pass it off as.
Speaker 2: That but and then yeah again here With, heather who's, like,
yeah these guys are. Lovers they're boning in the shower
earlier in that, day and then and holding her face.
AGAIN i guess she's losing, blood she's getting. Loopy but
still it just seems a little bit a little bit
too much for me to. Swallow SO i do.
Speaker 4: Hope and you, know she's supposed to be like an
educated woman and like.
Speaker 2: Very like just just active brain and. Thoughts you, know
she should be able to catch up on these.
Speaker 5: Things, yeah the fact that she can't detect his face
from seeing that much of, it but he can detect
her face from fucking paint on a piece of paper
THAT i hate that so. Much that the dumbest thing.
Ever there's way too many just super convenient things in this,
show and it just bothers, me AND i JUST i
just can't buy into him being like a, cool smart
investigator when it's just like that is how poorly it's.
WRITTEN i was so pissed.
Speaker 4: Off and that's, like, well your same, face he.
Speaker 2: Says you, know like looking at these two, images one
has like a little bit of texture on, it so
Maybe i'll give him a pass. There but then when
you like close in and then it does the flash
to him just touching her. Face, YEAH i laughed out.
Speaker 3: LOUD i can see HOW i can't defend.
Speaker 1: It it didn't really bug me because it's, like, okay
he's like not super, sensus but, LIKE i can see
how it bugs. You but luckily they killed him and
caught him as if, not you, know his fingerprints are
over that layer or, so like they're gonna announce That
Matt murdock's the fucking muse.
Speaker 3: Killer but, luckily uh, glove he took him. Off he
took him off if you watched that.
Speaker 1: Scene, Yeah and THEN i, said and then he's, like
well he has to Feel becauzar, like, YEAH i guess,
so but it's just, like, yeah his fingerprints are just
all over that.
Speaker 3: Thing so. YEAH I, ALSO i don't Think King knin's
go in a. FRAME i don't think we're going that,
way even though there is like multiple.
Speaker 1: Arcs one in, PARTICULAR i like Where Matt morock does
end up in, prison and we were talking about in
the discord a couple of weeks. AGO i would love
them to do, that especially With bullseye in, Prison LIKE
i would love That Matt murdock, goes like everyone knows he,
there definitely goes to, Prison and if that would have
been an another great reason to Have mews, alive because
that's what happened when he goes to. Prison there's multiple
villains in that prison that know that he you, know
of sely it's out. There SO i just think that
idea of you going to, prison you're locked in with
like four to, five you're like greatest. Foes it's like
and you could get killed at any, Time LIKE i
AND i feel like that's like a, nice like low
Budget disney plus, thing like they love not putting this
guy in the, Suit like that's a whole fucking scene
of him not in the, Suit like it's Just Charlie
cox in, prison you.
Speaker 3: Know SO i guess we'll.
Speaker 1: See but, Uh, dylan we were talking about With, fisk
do you think that was a setup by them both
to kill the mob? Boss do you think that Was
vanessa making her first real move Against.
Speaker 3: Fist do you think it was a real move And
fisk is still gonna forgive.
Speaker 1: Her we're kind of about the possibilities that BECAUSE i
see a lot of people taking it's, like, oh that's
the first, shot but like it was so easily dealt.
WITH i could also just see That fisk and her
decided because Like fist the past couple of weeks has
been starting to get dirty and telling her he's getting.
Speaker 3: Dirty so it's not like a. Surprise so where were
you on? That?
Speaker 1: Uh the GUY i can't remember his, name but he's sadly.
Speaker 3: No longer with.
Speaker 5: Us so the mygrete on it was that she knew
what was going to happen and was setting him up
to be murdered because he was getting a little too.
Nosy Uh SO i think, that, yeah the first time
that we've seen her this season really getting dirty or
seen like maybe the more sinister side of. Her maybe
SHE i don't know why, exactly she appeels like now
is the time to jump into that kind of, Thing but,
yeah that was definitely the VIBE i, think especially like
the scene like under the bridge when they're, TALKING i
feel like she really did not like the way he
was talking to, her addressing her or undermining her potentially.
Speaker 1: FACE i know, WHAT i know what your thoughts. Are
it's LIKE i feel, like, yeah it isn't like that,
concept you, Know so.
Speaker 5: Yeah and just doesn't like to be like questioned or
have like fist being questioned at this. Point so, YEAH
i definitely saw it as a setup and like her
her devious. Face you, know that's a thumbnail too of the,
episode is like her looking down at her phone with
like a really really serious. Face SO i THINK i
think it was a setup for.
Speaker 3: Sure is that the? THUMBNAIL i?
Speaker 4: Think?
Speaker 1: So oh, MY i think my thumbnail is the ONE
i use for this this episode Where matt's like touching the, Paintings,
oh different.
Speaker 3: Ones maybe we.
Speaker 1: Did, Yeah i'm trying to think there's anything more we got.
THERE i guess we touched upon. It what the hell's
the guy's name the? Assistant is It?
Speaker 3: Dylan Not? Dylan is? It that's something like? That? Though? No, no?
Speaker 1: Fuck who is the guy who was a mess WITH
bb this episode of like he's the fucking?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway so we got that Where, okay so everyone
you know in our circles knows That daredevil is.
Speaker 3: Back at the. Back, guys what is his? Name?
Speaker 4: Daniel?
Speaker 3: Daniel Can?
Speaker 1: Daniel alan And dylan say that's all? RIGHT i got,
It But daniel he pretty much just tell HIM bb Like, okay,
yeah everyone's gonna kind of know in the law like,
whatever the vigilante force fitts people, whatever That daredevil saved
her and got this. Vigilante but we really want to win,
here so we're gonna say it was the Task.
Speaker 3: Force he did.
Speaker 1: That she was kind of pushing back and she's, like
you're threatening, Me like, No i'm just saying you could
choose to make you WHICH i thought was like very
weak dialogue of like you could make your life really
awesome or really. Sucky i'm just like it's all we,
got like come on, now like Couldn't no one looked just.
Speaker 3: Like let's do another, Past like that's.
Speaker 1: All AND i get that The daniel characters supposed to
be kind of like a, slimy but like he's still
in a position WHERE i feel like he has to
be somewhat of a smart. Guy SO i don't, KNOW
i didn't love, that But i'm imagining that she's gonna
go the Ben yurik round not report that it was
the Task, force, right like we didn't get that, answer
BUT i feel like she's.
Speaker 3: Gonna say it Was dedie and she becomes now a.
Speaker 5: Threat so, well we even got that like cell phone
recording of someone on the street being LIKE i Saw
daredevil popping out of that.
Speaker 3: Window, yeah so.
Speaker 5: That'll definitely be a point of contention in the city
as definitely some people pushing back on. This maybe we'll.
SEE i, mean what is bb do.
Speaker 3: Doing does she go with the flow or does she
uh she tell the?
Speaker 5: Truth m, hmm maybe She maybe she goes undercover a
little bit, longer like not trying to blow it. Up
maybe she wants to gather more information before SHE i don't,
know does like the big sting against? Him, yeah so
that might not even have him the season, POTENTIALLY i don't.
Speaker 1: Know, plus LIKE i feel, like even if you don't like,
it say right, now because he's the, mayor you should
do that just to ensure because her first thought was
are you threatening? Me like you could, die you, know
like looking at how your uncle. Died maybe she, should
even if she doesn't believe, it she should report, That,
yeah the Task force did, this AND i don't, know
wait Till Frank castle comes.
Speaker 3: Around then you're in the. Clear but what about, You?
Speaker 1: Kirkling is she gonna die on the sword like her?
Uncles next next week is A daniel choking her.
Speaker 4: Out it's Just, Daniel but WHAT i would love.
Speaker 1: Is him to try and do the fist, thing but
her just like kick his ass and like choke him,
out you, know Like wesley's.
Speaker 2: Style he throws her the, axe you, know tries to
go The adam round and it doesn't work to.
Speaker 3: She throws it. Back she still kicks his.
Speaker 2: Ass i'd be disappointed if she does just like just
take the intimidation route and, Like, Okay i'm not gonna do.
This LIKE i feel, like what's the point of even
setting this. Up you, know she's not staying true or
her family, Name like she should be better than. This
AND i do believe that will probably be like a
big thing going forward after this. Season LIKE i don't
think that'll be a, resolution just like going into season,
two there's gonna be a growing just, yeah like is
it Is daredevil back he's the one that's doing stuff
or is it just this task Force and there's just
gonna be those those little splinters forming and just the public.
OPINION i think that's a good way to just set
up season. Two but, YEAH i don't. Know, see it
was very weird scene, overall This daniel, guy he does
NOT i didn't love him throw the whole, show but
like him starting to be this like he's attempting to
be like an imposing intimidation, guy and it's like staying
in your, lane, bro like come, on like, this ain't?
Speaker 1: You AND i think it's been a few episodes since
we saw the woman above, him you, know like she
was like talking in the, Cage, yeah the muses fucking, Subway,
yeah the, cage, right and forgot about? That, yeah just
what did you do to get? Here and every night
fisicals throwing her the. Acts come, on that's he's just
he's like picking the most weak people and just fighting.
Speaker 3: Them he thinks he's like this big steak in front of.
Speaker 1: Them. YEAH i did like that scene he had With
buck when when at one Point buck's, like, well you,
know can't be the worst thing in him being out.
Speaker 3: There he could do some good catch.
Speaker 1: Music and offer just made some like OH i don't think,
so like you just made this like weird, laugh like
only a Laugh Donna frio can. Do Where i'm, LIKE
i love this man so, much BUT i liked that.
SCENE i even liked even LIKE i, SAID i did
not like the cop and her dialogue, again but you,
KNOW i like his you, know like trying to pry
but because he already Knows Dared devil's, back but he's
he does that fist thing where he's like looking but he's.
Pretending he just does it with his. Eyes i'll take
care of it. Now SO i like that were again.
Then AND i liked his reaction too of finding out
That matt was, back because it wasn't like complete anger
like it.
Speaker 3: Was it.
Speaker 1: Was it was mixed because like they point, out, like,
hey save these, people and he's dealing With, mews AND
i think Even fisk does know, That, Okay mews is
a much worse threat Than matt is right, now.
Speaker 3: Right BUT i.
Speaker 1: Feel like we got a good recap for, if for
some reason he didn't watch the original show of like
he built you, Know taylor And kirkland didn't like this
in the original. Show, again he said he's spent ten,
Years kirkland ten years building that. Operation that's how he did.
Everything he was In tokyo building a ten year. Operation
BUT i like that he's just, yeah he brought it.
Down he turned my life. Over he got me, arrested
SO i thought it. WAS i liked all The vincent
acting this, episode And i'm excited to SEE i do
hope they come face to face before this season. END
i feel like it has to has to. Happen i'll
be a little disappointed if we don't get.
Speaker 3: That so, yeah BUT i liked it.
Speaker 5: ALL i, mean, like what's With heather in the room?
Speaker 4: Too just add more tensions mm mmm.
Speaker 5: HMMM i, like what are we gonna do for the
next two episodes? Here now the news is out of the. Picture,
YEAH i.
Speaker 1: GUESS i imagine it's dealing with this Task, Force but
LIKE i think we've heard the Task force is gonna continue,
on SO i. DON'T i Know frank's, there SO i
don't know what the next inciting incident. IS i don't
know if it's literally just next week we. Start, hey
we're After daredevil and that's what it.
Speaker 3: Is it's the hunt for because like he does know It's.
Speaker 1: Matt i've always said that since the beginning of the,
episode like it should be pretty easy For fisk to
deal with this, time like he's the mayor and he
knows who daredel. Is just have that Task force waiting
at his house ready to, go guns are. BLAZING i don't,
know like IT'S i don't think we would. Be but
is there ever a situation where Like matt gets kidnapped
And frank sees them the news and that's what makes
it gets him in? There like episode Is daredevil versus
the Task force and then episode nine is The Punisher daredeld.
Speaker 5: THING i don't know THAT'S i feel like he's definitely
gonna declare war on like any mass. VIGILANT i mean
he already kind of has a little, bit BUT i
feel like he's gonna double down on that next, episode
so trying to get the people to be against Dared
devil as, well and Then i'm sure that'll cause a
little mini civil war with the RANDOM bb clips of
people like, OH i Like Dared, Blo like he's a good.
GUY i don't think we should go after him this,
before you.
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, yeah it might be like a big thing
too of like his last two episodes just putting a
lot more pressure On fisk and like like the persona
that he's trying to come across of like he's he's
the mayor doing good for the. CITY i think maybe
they'll just be more cracks for me on like people
just seeing him maybe more as a sketchy guy or
as a, crook because we already kind of saw a
little bit of that when they were at that fundraiser.
Thing hated, Him, yeah, yeah everybody.
Speaker 3: Hated him so bitn.
Speaker 4: Ones who choose who.
Speaker 1: Eats, yeah and that's why in two, Years, yeah that's
why you clear and even and same thing. Too it's,
Like I'm i'm wondering because we talk about The adam
thread and he's still. Alive i'm wondering the next two
episodes of like BECAUSE i think mean dealing on the same, Page,
kirk and you might feel like you didn't say a
fishy where are you on the Is vanessa and fists
like they're gonna make it out the season?
Speaker 3: Together are they gonna be breaking?
Speaker 1: Apart Like i'm wondering if she's gonna find what he
did To adam and she's like gonna enjoy, that you,
know because it's, like, oh the Old fisk is back
in a way, right like he's stuck, up like like
she almost like she said she didn't want touch. Him
that was almost like LIKE i can't if you say,
Don't they're gonna you, know.
Speaker 5: But then she'll go up to the, cage he'll stick
his hands through touch her, face and then she smelts
and those hands.
Speaker 3: And that's when he.
Speaker 2: Comes, YEAH i, Mean i'm more on the side that
like they're MORE i want to, say like More vanessa
is against like the whole fist, thing just because SHE
i really feel like she strongly needs to have her
finger on the pulse of like running the business and
if she's not okay with just being like the one Beside, kingpin,
like she does want to be the one running the.
Speaker 4: Show AND i think.
Speaker 2: That'll be a consistent thing to the end of that
character or that characters or whatever it might, be or
just the relationship. ITSELF i think that'll really be the
main thing that prevents her from like just signing With.
Speaker 4: Fisk BUT i could also see it. Happening i'm just
a lower chance of it. BEING i don't. Know they
it's like.
Speaker 2: A mister and Missus smith thing where they're like beating
the ship at each other and then they just start
making out and then that's when they you know. Close,
yeah My, banansa his hands are like.
Speaker 1: MINE i wonder if it's a situation, though where they
just come to the agreement that she is gonna be
the kingpin in since but he'll still be mayor right
where he's gonna, Go, LIKE i can't.
Speaker 3: Do all these, things but trust, you.
Speaker 4: He's okay with.
Speaker 2: THAT i feel, like deep down he is the kingpin
and he is the one that just needs to be
running the. Show but Maybe i'm wrong with, that but
that's just the Vibule i'm getting so. FAR i do
believe that she would have had some some positive business
dealings if that hit went.
Speaker 4: Through, yeah With, Kingpin.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that because we got the, finale AND
i imagine that's Where frank might. BE i bet next
week we get a resolution one way or another On Fisker.
Vanessa either they are together or they're you, know. Separated you,
Know i'm not saying That fist is gonna kill, her
but even if it's like a separation and you, know,
okay because that could be fun, too or he's the
mayor trying to do criminal things and she's being a
kingpin on the, side and it's kind of, like Maybe
fists can't bring himself to kill.
Speaker 3: Her you, know she clearly would kill him if that
hit was the other way.
Speaker 1: Around BUT i, SAID i think they'll resolve it next,
week AND i think they're GONNA i think they're gonna
figure it out.
Speaker 3: Somehow don't know. WHY i don't know.
Speaker 5: How BUT i also feel like, now like a lot
of their more intense conversations this season have happened through
the context of being in the therapy session With heather,
there and so Obviously fisk mostly is like a, high very,
muted he's not sharing, much he's not being very, emotional
Where vanessa is like the one who's kind of dumping
more on, like, actually you, know doing what they should
be doing in those. Sessions but now that they probably,
won't you, KNOW i don't they're gonna make a session.
Happen she'll probably be in the hospital or out a.
Commission for the last last two episodes, HERE i could
see those conversations that they have between each other just
be a lot more heated now that they don't have
that mediator in the. Room so maybe that is what
like kind of leads to a full on break between.
Speaker 1: Them they're so desperate they go to the hospital and
like make her do a session while she's in the,
bed and it's, like, oh at that, time.
Speaker 5: Like matts in the corner like hiding behind like the
curtain or.
Speaker 3: Something or he's like in the.
Speaker 1: Bathroom you can hear it all going on because it's,
like oh, yeah he's, like oh my, god is, there
but we really need a session right.
Speaker 2: NOW i love that just goes to akick cut of
in the bathroom just taking a shit or something in
stall and be, like what is that.
Speaker 4: They're here they're talking?
Speaker 1: About emily, asked is THAT i just was having fun
with it because you, know So matt he gets back
there very good. Timing he's shining his blood off, them
and then she walks him right, after so it could
have been awkward.
Speaker 3: Situation she sees his bruise on his.
Speaker 1: Back he just decides that the best response is just
to get on with they're and then after they're talking about,
that she's given the whole therapy. Session BUT i would,
say LIKE i made the joke, like, oh well he's,
blind he falls a, lot but like on his back
is literal like war like superhero, Scars like these aren't
just like oh he's fallen, down like they are massive,
Scars so you have to, think, like now they've THEY'RE
i don't think they're living, together but ARE i think they?
Speaker 3: ARE i don't.
Speaker 5: Know she has a key to the. Apartment, yeah.
Speaker 1: Definitely like and that's one Thing i'll say about the,
Show like their, RELATIONSHIP i feel like moved very. Fast
like it went from, oh they kind of got set
up to LIKE i don't think that much time has
passed to they, are you, know roommates, everything and like
now she's the damsel in distress like all this. Stuff but,
YEAH i JUST i guess no questions about THE i
guess other ladies like trying to.
Speaker 3: THINK i guess other ladies don't have these. QUESTIONS i
guess either they just assume that they're just scars and.
Speaker 1: Whatnot like him And karen actually never as far as we,
knew got together in the, series And electra obviously she
dole these scars and.
Speaker 3: Stuff but and she.
Speaker 1: Hulks she won't ask any, questions, right she'd, understand, okay
like he's getting these. Scars but you think she might
have especially now she's like where do you? Go LIKE
i just come home and you're Missing he's, like, oh,
Well i'm doing my lower.
Speaker 3: Stuff she's, like your briefcase is? Here is Like, oh,
Well i'm just. Embarrassed stop asking me about.
Speaker 5: It, well that's the, thing like since she since she
actually saw the, fight she might be, like, OH i
remember When muse kicked him in the hip right.
Speaker 3: Here, yeah he did slice his thigh at one point.
Too that don't probably be the.
Speaker 5: Giveaway, yeah even though she seems super, loopy but, Like
i'm sure she'll remember. That i'll come back to her
a spider, man you, know when he's bleeding bike.
Speaker 3: As they're having.
Speaker 1: Sex how'd you get that scar bike? Messenger knock me?
DOWN i have to, go, father you just. GO i
did like that moment when he was in music his
camp where he that shitty cop comes, In, yeah, yeah
and he's, like oh, fuck like like he didn't mean
to hit him that. Hard BUT i enjoyed that little
segment thing.
Speaker 2: Too that cop like like got knocked, out like woke
up and then he caused, yeah like doesn't really mention
that he just got fucking knocked out by Darried ol or.
Speaker 4: Anything it was just a strange.
Speaker 1: Sequence and again even this episode and, fiscals he's, like,
oh SHOULD i put an apb Out he's like, no, no,
No like you go to the Task force will take
care of, it and he's like he looks always so
not sold in the task for this. Cop but then
when they go in the, scene they actually like going.
Down BUT i remember in the speech a couple of weeks,
ago he's always just like like a little, confused LIKE
i don't understand where his character is going.
Speaker 3: Up sure, maybe, well ACTUALLY.
Speaker 1: I know he's gonna be going to the fucking grave
And frank finds him next, WEEK i. GET i think
he's a cop that fucking If frank sees it's it's
over for.
Speaker 3: HIM i can't.
Speaker 1: Remember does he is A i think he's a punisher
tattoos for, HIM i, think.
Speaker 3: RIGHT i think he's one of those. Cops, yeah, yeah
SO i think any cop that has That frank, is.
Speaker 5: They all got it, somewhere whether it's a tramp stamp or.
Speaker 1: A massive back tattoo like this is wrath like just
like punish your. Skull but and then we got more,
again which a with just one scene Of matt's little
sidekicks there they're doing the same thing as The karen
And paid or The Foggying karen for season, two where,
yeah where he's, like you can't do this blah, blah
and then when he leaves the, room she's, like, well
there's something going, on and you guys talk and he
leaves me the same. Thing camera would be, like, oh what's.
Up so they're just running that. Back but, AGAIN i
Guess i'm okay because they're in it so. LITTLE i
just could kind of just again cut this all, out
just as last Week daredevil Found mews pretty, easily AND
i feel, like, Again daredevil a whole week work. Himself
he went to talk To White tiger's niece and then
went to his. Layer you don't need this cop helping him, Out, like,
so we're not.
Speaker 5: Gonna any more lawyer stuff for the rest of this
season at.
Speaker 1: Least so, Yeah So i'm very curious in season two
how much they're gonna be actually in the, show because
it just feels like already they're transitioned to Like Matt,
well he's not doing his, job and then he doesn't
need this guy for The daredevil, Stuff like what are
they doing around Because i'm not sure it's this. LADY
i can't remember her, name but it's like New. Partners
she's gonna like fire him or want to part ways
because she, says, recently he's been missing a, lot and
that happened before With, foggy, Right, so and if she
doesn't know the, secret she's just gonna think he's.
Speaker 3: Slacking or he's got to alcohol. Problem so he can't
work with that.
Speaker 5: Guy for, Two we've got a lot of, Bruises, matt
what's going?
Speaker 3: On i'm. Embarrassed don't talk to me about.
Speaker 4: His name's on the like the law firm too?
Speaker 1: Right it's, yeah but so was uh so Was Nelson
Rrock and that's split up too, Right SO i.
Speaker 2: Know but it's, LIKE i don't feel like she can
just fire, him like they're, like, no the people are
running the.
Speaker 3: Firm but she could ask for a separation MAYBE i don't.
Speaker 4: Know, Yeah. No the sequence definitely felt like we.
Speaker 3: Haven't had to cross that road yet as a. Partnership
luckily we haven't asked to, ask you, know we get
rid of a. Person, Yeah taylor more episode it's.
Speaker 5: Open wondering Where taylor. Is we asked him to step
down and he's considering.
Speaker 1: It that's a special. Assignment he's talking with a lawyer's
stat right.
Speaker 3: Now it's, like what CAN i do? Well seventy five
versus twenty?
Speaker 4: Five, yeah, NO i what WAS i talking? About lawyer
the lawyer.
Speaker 2: Friend, yeah definitely felt like we had treed that path
already with like The karens of the, world The foggies
of the world from the Previous daredell. SHOW i don't,
know LIKE I i like this this, character, uh BUT
i feel LIKE i mostly just like her for the.
Speaker 4: Amount that she's used and, uh just leave it.
Speaker 1: There, yeah is there anything else we're? Missing we talked
about that actual did you guys like the actual just
build up of a news. SCENE i liked that of
him talking To. AGAIN i kind of wish we got
more sessions throughout the show because it was weird that
in the pilot we're, like, oh, LIKE i really need your,
help and then we're, like did he ever get therapy?
Speaker 3: Sessions did he? Not and then in this it just shows, That,
okay it's been the whole. Time SO i like the.
Speaker 1: SETUP i thought the guy was being creepy, enough AND
i thought she actually did a good job in that
scene as well of trying to still talk to him
about realizing she's having it's over for you moment if
he's getting, slow and then once you wake up and
he's fully in the.
Speaker 3: Caution it's, like oh, yeah there's your you're kind of fucked.
Here it's it's.
Speaker 1: Done and the police did say he was planning a
murder of. SUICIDE i didn't get. THAT i didn't get that.
VIBE i just got the viby has a.
Speaker 2: Gun but that's what they're trained to, do, right because
they're just bad. Cops they're just going there shoot. Whoever
it's like it was a murder. Suicide, yeah, right, gone, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah we didn't even talk, about Like befred mentioned she's
the one actually killed.
Speaker 3: Them they're.
Speaker 1: Fighting there's that brutal moment Where matt shot the baton
through his. Shoulder for a, second, yeah, yeah for a
SECOND i thought it was like through his, heart as,
like oh my, God matt is off the deep. End
he's just like murdering people the. Batons but, no he
did that, music got some sort of knife and then
she killed him and. Everything so again funny That matt's,
like oh, yeah you had to do. It but, again
he won't kill, people but all these people around, Him
karen Her, frank like he's.
Speaker 3: Just with a bunch of. Murderers his stick would always
be killing.
Speaker 1: People Jessica jones don't, care so it's just Just matt
trying his best. Here but, yeah she killed, Them So
i'm wondering if that's gonna have some repercussions for her
too going.
Speaker 4: Forward so mm, HMM i don't think.
Speaker 2: SO i think it'll probably be just the amount that
it was in this episode when she just kind of
has that. REALIZATION i like how it played, out like
the actual fight. Sequence it was funny, too When matt
like we kept dragging him around and he was on
like that tarp that he laid out and he was
just like blood smearing all. Over in my, Mind i'm,
like there's gonna be some like weird art project or.
Something they're gonna like lift the body and it's gonna
be like just an art design or.
Speaker 4: Something but they weren't going all out on that on
the musisms of.
Speaker 5: It but draws like a map to like punishers hideout or.
Speaker 4: Something, yeah like like something like.
Speaker 2: That It's heather's face all textured, again you, know feeling it,
afterwards but, yeah, yeah they walk in the, Room matt's
just feeling up this.
Speaker 1: Thing, yeah, yeah n't did you like even the muse
human stuff bashing or was that still kind of mad for?
Speaker 5: You, no just it felt it felt quite rushed and
felt like very, predictable Like inceel sort of storyline sort of.
Thing AND i THINK i agree with what you said
there of like maybe we should a couple of scenes
building up to, This AND i think it's one of
those things where like maybe the surprise wouldn't have been,
there like you've already been kind of predicting this whole
like or talking about this whole, time like we know
that's you, Know, Mews we're getting ready for that kind of.
Thing SO i don't, know maybe a couple more scenes
would have would have done, it BUT i guess it
was weird only HAVE i, guess in hindsight like two
scenes of him as As, bastion which feels were to
say bashing now Because i'm just thinking of like THE
X men villain WHEN i.
Speaker 3: Say, no he's gonna come back.
Speaker 5: Very underpowered compared to his x very. There but, yeah
it didn't really work for. ME i think just as,
well everything kind of felt predictable with this sequence in
this episode in. GENERAL i think that's WHY i wasn't
as excited by. It so we'll see what happens in
these next, two but just, UH i don't, know kind
of buy the.
Speaker 1: NUMBERS i wasn't sure too if you, heard because you're
having your issues. There the next two are the full
episodes that were in the, overhaul so they have none
of The Old guard episodes of like some of these
episodes are like a mix of new shots and old.
SHOTS a nine are completely from starting to finish new
because like, that BECAUSE i don't know which episode he's
ina be, like oh, see what's his? Name John berthnall,
said like he declined to be in the first version,
show so that's how he's in one of those.
Speaker 3: Episodes so that's WHAT i.
Speaker 5: Do you think he's coming, Back we're gonna get one
more episode of him or is he gonna?
Speaker 1: BOTH i.
Speaker 3: DON'T i don't.
Speaker 5: KNOW i don't story, WISE i don't really see what
he would do at. All LIKE i feel like we
haven't really been killing for him to go.
Speaker 1: Out he's killing some. COPS i think it's it's over
for some of those. COPS i think he's gonna be
boots to the, ground he's gonna think about.
Speaker 3: IT i just don't know.
Speaker 1: Either to, me it's eight and then it's Just matt's
finale or the end of eight is a setup and
Then frank is there at the end of, that because
that can be an, exciting you know.
Speaker 5: Finale you feel, like do you Think frank's gonna like know,
that like when they're holding up the mask Of mews
that they like didn't actually find, it BECAUSE i feel
like If punished is at, like, oh they took a
savage murder off the, streets maybe they're not so bad
even if they The hectoryola thing was pretty.
Speaker 1: SISS i think when he if it's just them holding up,
maybe BUT i think with fifth, there that's when he's
gonna be like something's.
Speaker 5: And LIKE i don't he's like half, smirk smile thing
that looks so.
Speaker 3: Yeah like that that's WHAT i. Think it's the tiff
off For frank is the Second easy's fiscal.
Speaker 1: BULLSHIT i didn't like that didn't, Happen red was a
part of it or yet To so, Again i'm kind
of liking the theory that they capture him and then
that's how they that's how you Get.
Speaker 3: Punisher but do you.
Speaker 1: Want to make it The punisher show for last? EPISODE
i don't, know but, Hey Disney plus has done it,
before you, know so mm. Hmm anything else from this
episode or anything talk about for next.
Speaker 5: Week all my blood has been. Transfused, Yeah rip, mused
will see.
Speaker 1: You.
Speaker 3: UH i don't. Know Marvel. Snap maybe he's got a card.
Speaker 5: YET i don't think he is In Marvel snap actually
one of the.
Speaker 4: Few he's not in.
Speaker 3: There surprised they didn't do like a dared double season
or something for this, show like FOR.
Speaker 5: I think they did like a someone Bulls eye was added.
RECENTLY i think it was like A. Daredevils i've been
out of the game for a few. MONTHS i don't.
Speaker 3: Know, okay well maybe you'll see him there and if, not,
YEAH i. Don't i'm With.
Speaker 1: KIRKLAND i wish there was a way that they could
have held the masks and still just say they caught.
HIM i know even, then if she would have shot,
HIM i would have.
Speaker 3: Liked if he. Survived but, yeah he's, down but at
Least kirkland's.
Speaker 1: Fair BULLS i still in, prison and we know we'll
be seeing him again at some point because he. Is,
yeah it's, COMING i think so it could be because
there's still one scene of from the trail of him
in the prison and it's we haven't seen that.
Speaker 5: Yet OH i forgot.
Speaker 3: That, yeah SO i don't. KNOW i don't know if
that's also.
Speaker 1: Just like a tease for season two where it's really
just someone breaking them, out being like you could be on.
Speaker 3: The task, Force LIKE i don't think fists should do,
that but you never. KNOW i don't think, so but you,
know because you know he tried to kill fist spot my.
Speaker 4: Girlfriend it's like The frozen.
Speaker 3: Chick yeah you still. Frozen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, anyways, well we'll be back next.
Speaker 3: Week maybe Mister field will be, back who.
Speaker 1: Knows we'll talk to our, lawyers but, uh we'll be
back next week for episode four or episode eight to
them an ultimate, episode And i'll not be.
Speaker 3: Boring