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<v Speaker 1>In October of nineteen ninety four, a young woman named

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<v Speaker 1>Emilia Reeves vanished from her home in Arlington, Texas. At first,

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<v Speaker 1>her disappearance looked like another troubled marriage coming apart, with

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<v Speaker 1>a young woman running off with another lover. That is

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<v Speaker 1>until detectives learned that two of her husband's previous wives

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<v Speaker 1>were already dead. What began as a missing person's case

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<v Speaker 1>would ultimately unravel a decades long trail of violence that

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<v Speaker 1>had gone unquestioned for years. This is the story of

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<v Speaker 1>how good police work makes all the difference. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the story of Jack Reeves.

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<v Speaker 2>My name's Ben, I'm Nicole, and you're listening to Wicked

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<v Speaker 2>and Grim, a true crime podcasting.

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<v Speaker 1>The following podcast intended moan your audience, listeners.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess what I recommended this case?

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<v Speaker 1>You did?

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<v Speaker 2>I did?

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<v Speaker 1>You did two?

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<v Speaker 2>And are the three cases I recommended were like spousal issues?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you trying to say something?

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<v Speaker 2>No, they attract me for some reason, just because not

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<v Speaker 2>that I think they're relatable, but they're relatable in a sense,

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<v Speaker 2>right because it just people are generate lots of times

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<v Speaker 2>in relationships and you could.

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<v Speaker 1>Put yourself in that position.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I don't know, I've always been a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit attracted to spousal dispute ones, I guess, which is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of weird.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you saying here exactly?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know, I don't know. Okay, well, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna move on.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I do find them actually fascinating, because I

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<v Speaker 2>do find that they would I'm surprised they happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you know what, Actually I kind of think that

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<v Speaker 1>you and I have a similar mindset, but for different

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<v Speaker 1>things that we prefer. I like mystery ones because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I could put myself in that position and

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<v Speaker 1>try and like, well, what happened? I really want to

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<v Speaker 1>think about it, right m and then so it's almost

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<v Speaker 1>like you're kind of doing the same thing. You're putting

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<v Speaker 1>yourself in the shoes, like, well, how could that happen?

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<v Speaker 1>What if that happened to me? Like that perspective, So

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost like we're taking on that point of view

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<v Speaker 1>ourselves in our own preferred Niche does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 1>Or Am I going for a stretch here? No?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean just no, maybe not a stretch, but in

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<v Speaker 2>the sense I'm like the other ones I also sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>get drawn to are the ones like cannibalism.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true.

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<v Speaker 2>That's kind of messed up when you think about that.

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<v Speaker 1>At one point, when the podcast was only in like

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<v Speaker 1>a year or two old, we were kind of tallying

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<v Speaker 1>who had done more cannibalism cases because you were doing

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<v Speaker 1>more of the episodes too. It was kind of fifty

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<v Speaker 1>to fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But nowadays, if we were to tally, I've certainly done

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<v Speaker 1>with more. Well yeah, almost unfair, And I'll be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of still think about that when I run

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<v Speaker 1>across the cannibalism.

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<v Speaker 2>One, like Nichole should be doing this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and like Nicole needs to be doing this one,

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<v Speaker 1>or I don't want to do that one because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to add another cannibalism one to my tally,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Yeah, But it's different now it's oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>still do them, but that initial thought is still there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, I've been indulging in some documentaries lately, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's some that have been like holy shit, and so

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<v Speaker 2>I just felt the need to pass them along to Ben.

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<v Speaker 1>Has that been the title holy shit? Or that's your

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<v Speaker 1>reaction or is that the reviews or what or all

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<v Speaker 1>the above?

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<v Speaker 2>My reaction?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, So It's not called holy shit on net flicks.

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<v Speaker 2>You know though, that would probably grab my attad jute probably.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh holy shit. Okay, let's watch it. Anyways, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we're yabbering way too much for this story. It's a Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you're listening on the weekend or listening on

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<v Speaker 1>another day in the future, mean what, Let's just get

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<v Speaker 1>to the story and enjoy our day. How's that sound.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do it?

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<v Speaker 1>I like it. When police began asking the serious questions

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<v Speaker 1>regarding Jack Reeves, too much time had already passed. You see.

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<v Speaker 1>Years earlier, a woman who was his wife had been

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<v Speaker 1>found dead in her own bedroom. A shotgun was resting

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<v Speaker 1>between her legs, with a suicide story that sounded unsettling

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<v Speaker 1>but complete enough to accept. Another wife would later die

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<v Speaker 1>in open water on a quiet Texas lake, with no witnesses,

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<v Speaker 1>no autopsy to challenge the explanation that was offered either.

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<v Speaker 1>In both of these cases, the conclusion came rather quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>Officials recorded what they saw, and they trusted what they

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<v Speaker 1>were told, and with that they closed the file. Nothing

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<v Speaker 1>about Jack Reeves triggered any alarm at that moment. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't panic, he didn't run. He didn't even contradict himself.

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<v Speaker 1>He presented himself as a man repeatedly touched by misfortune. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>each incident seemed isolated on their own, separated by years, locations,

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<v Speaker 1>and circumstances. That made it easy to treat them as

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<v Speaker 1>unrelated tragedies rather than a part of a larger story

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<v Speaker 1>strung together. And so that's how they were handled. The

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<v Speaker 1>shooting was a suicide, the drowning became labeled as an accident.

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<v Speaker 1>The paperwork was completed, and life well, life moved on.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever doubt existed stayed rather informal and whispered by family members.

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<v Speaker 1>It was dismissed by lack of evidence and just buried

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<v Speaker 1>with time. It wasn't until October nineteen ninety four, when

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<v Speaker 1>a twenty six year old woman named Emilita Villa failed

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<v Speaker 1>to answer her phone. That was when those early deaths

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<v Speaker 1>were forced back into the light. Now, her disappearance didn't

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<v Speaker 1>immediately register as a homicide. It looked like another troubled marriage,

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<v Speaker 1>another adult who might have chosen to leave, for example.

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<v Speaker 1>But as detectives began retracing Jack Reeve's past, his marriages,

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<v Speaker 1>his movements, his explanations, a pattern emerged that hadn't been

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<v Speaker 1>visible before, not because it was hidden per se, but

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<v Speaker 1>because no one had ever laid it out all at once.

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<v Speaker 1>From there, the story of coincidental tragedy soon became the

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<v Speaker 1>story of investigators reopening deaths that they believed they understood

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<v Speaker 1>in order to take a closer look, and how years

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<v Speaker 1>of accepted answers unraveled when examined together, revealing the truth

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<v Speaker 1>that no one could explain with coincidence anymore. On the

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<v Speaker 1>morning of October twelfth, nineteen ninety four, Arlington police received

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<v Speaker 1>a call from a worried friend. She said she hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>heard from Emilita Reeves since the night before. Emilita, she explained,

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<v Speaker 1>always returned pages. Remember this is the nineties, so she

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<v Speaker 1>had a pager and she always answered her phone. Going

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<v Speaker 1>silent was not like her. Officers were soon dispatched to

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<v Speaker 1>the Reeves home in Arlington, Texas for a welfare check

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<v Speaker 1>and to make sure that everything was okay. When they

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<v Speaker 1>arrived and knocked on the door, there was no answer.

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<v Speaker 1>They waited and knocked again, but still nothing. As they

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<v Speaker 1>walked the perimeter of the house, shining their flashlights around

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<v Speaker 1>and looking in through windows, that's when they noticed movement

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<v Speaker 1>inside a garage. It was a man who was kneeling

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<v Speaker 1>down near vehicle. Officers called out, mentioning that they had

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<v Speaker 1>seen him, and eventually he did come to the front

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<v Speaker 1>door and identified himself as Jack Reeves. The officer explained

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<v Speaker 1>what they were there for, you know, the welfare check

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<v Speaker 1>for Emalda Reeves, which was Jack's wife. Now, Jack casually

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<v Speaker 1>told police his wife wasn't home. He said she'd likely

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<v Speaker 1>gone out and would return in a day or two.

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<v Speaker 1>According to him, Emlita sometimes disappeared without warning, and so

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't seem alarm with the situation at all. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even ask officers to help find her. Now, at

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<v Speaker 1>that moment, nothing about the situation clearly pointed to a crime.

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<v Speaker 1>You see, Jack Reeves was also pretty trustworthy in the

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<v Speaker 1>eyes of police. He was a fifty four year old

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<v Speaker 1>retired US Army Master sergeant. That's not an excuse, mind you,

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<v Speaker 1>but it offered some level of credibility to his name.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure. Jack's life living in a quiet suburb of

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<v Speaker 1>this neighborhood, by all accounts, seemed pretty normal and there

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<v Speaker 1>was nothing really to question. Now, his wife, Emalita was

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six years old, and she was an immigrant from

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<v Speaker 1>the Philippines who had married him through a mail order

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<v Speaker 1>bride's service. They also had a young son together as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite his status and credibility, on paper, the situation looked

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<v Speaker 1>more like a troubled marriage, not an emergency. So police

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<v Speaker 1>documented the encounter and they left, but Emelita did not

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<v Speaker 1>come home that night or the next night either, for

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<v Speaker 1>that matter. When detectives followed up, however, she still wasn't home,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jack repeated the same explanation to them. This time,

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<v Speaker 1>he even suggested that Emelda may have run off with

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<v Speaker 1>someone else. He mentioned that she had friends and recently

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<v Speaker 1>other lovers. He spoke calmly and appeared cooperative. Investigators once

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<v Speaker 1>again had little reason to doubt him. But it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>until police began digging a little deeper, not into Emlita's life,

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<v Speaker 1>but into Jack's that this case began to change. Because

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<v Speaker 1>this wasn't the first time a woman married to Jack

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<v Speaker 1>Reeves had vanished or died under unusual circumstances. It just

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<v Speaker 1>took sixteen years and this one missing person's report for

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<v Speaker 1>anyone to look close enough to notice what's the saying?

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<v Speaker 2>Three as a crowd.

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<v Speaker 1>So I feel like.

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<v Speaker 2>Looking back upon this, and you know, at one point

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<v Speaker 2>and you've seen that he had another you know, wife

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<v Speaker 2>missing or murdered or dead or whatever, it wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 2>been a big deal. But then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a third one. It's like that's I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more of a red flag. I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, and I don't know if this is like a

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<v Speaker 1>real like saying per se or anything, but I've got

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<v Speaker 1>something that I kind of go by, like one is

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<v Speaker 1>an accident, two is a coincidence. Three is a pattern.

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<v Speaker 1>And at this point you're on three and now you

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<v Speaker 1>have a pattern.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. It's kind of stupid to me that he

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<v Speaker 2>would do a third really, because I mean I would

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<v Speaker 2>I would never murder anyone. I'm just gonna put that

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<v Speaker 2>out there, but I would hope that I was. I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be that dumb.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, one is dumb, two is dumb, Three

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<v Speaker 1>is dumb. But yeah, he's getting dumb as he goes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the more it be caught, it's obvious.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're creating that pattern. You're creating a sense of hey,

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<v Speaker 1>look at me, You're becoming a giant red flag and

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<v Speaker 1>eventually someone's gonna look close enough to analyze and figure

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<v Speaker 1>out what the fuck you're doing. And I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's basically the case of this story. That's how it operates.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, honestly, though, with police looking back on

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<v Speaker 1>his history, though, I think it's time like we should

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<v Speaker 1>probably do the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Jack Wayne Reeves was born on June twentieth, nineteen forty,

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<v Speaker 1>in Wichita Falls, Texas. The city sat near Shepherd Air

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<v Speaker 1>Force Base and was shaped largely by a military culture,

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<v Speaker 1>also with steady blue collar work and post war patriotism.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack grew up in a working class household during the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen forties and the nineteen fifties, which is a period

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<v Speaker 1>defined by very rigid social expectations and also at the

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<v Speaker 1>time clear gender roles, which are not so much prevalent

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<v Speaker 1>today but then they certainly were now. Public records from

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<v Speaker 1>Jack's early life are rather limited, but there's no indication

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<v Speaker 1>of any sort of criminal behavior or serious trouble during

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<v Speaker 1>He graduated from high school in which Ta Falls. Friends

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<v Speaker 1>to leave town. Now, at seventeen years old, Jack found

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<v Speaker 1>himself enlisting in the United States Army, which was a

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<v Speaker 1>It held patriotism, it offered structure, income, and of course,

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<v Speaker 1>the promise of travel beyond North Texas. As a result,

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<v Speaker 1>adult life. Just a year later, in nineteen fifty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>Jack married for the very first time. He at the

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<v Speaker 1>move on. The marriage itself, though, was very short lived

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<v Speaker 1>and rather unstable. In fact, it lasted only a few

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<v Speaker 1>it left very little trace beyond you know, court records.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time, it appeared to be a youthful misstep, impulsive,

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<v Speaker 1>poorly considered, and quickly undone too. I guess you could

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<v Speaker 1>even consider it a learning situation for a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>young adults. By nineteen sixty, Jack was focusing solely on

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<v Speaker 1>too was short lived. Not the military career, mind you,

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<v Speaker 1>but the focusing on himself and his career aspect, because

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen sixty one, Jack Reeves married Sharon Delanne Vaughan.

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<v Speaker 1>He was twenty one years old and still steadily building

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<v Speaker 1>that career in the US Army, and so Sharon and

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<v Speaker 1>that was expected of many military spouses at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>following her husband from post to post, managing the home

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<v Speaker 1>and raising a family largely on her own during Jack's deployments.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the next several years, Jack advanced through the enlisted ranks.

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<v Speaker 1>The couple lived both in Texas and overseas, eventually being

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<v Speaker 1>stationed in Verona, Italy in the mid nineteen sixties. By then,

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<v Speaker 1>they had begun building what looked like, at least for

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<v Speaker 1>like before that stability would eventually end abruptly. Now, while

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<v Speaker 1>stationed in Italy, in the mid nineteen sixties. Still Mary

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Reeves was living with his second wife, Sharon, near

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<v Speaker 1>his military posting. In nineteen sixty seven, Jack shot and

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<v Speaker 1>killed a local Italian man outside their residence. Now Jack

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<v Speaker 1>told authorities that the man had been looking into the

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<v Speaker 1>to Jack, he confronted the men during an encounter, and

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<v Speaker 1>he fired the pistol to try and scare him away,

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<v Speaker 1>but in this encounter he ended up hitting and shooting

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<v Speaker 1>the guy, killing him. He later claimed that the bullet

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<v Speaker 1>Regardless of the situation, Italian authorities did not accept Jack's explanation.

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<v Speaker 1>The incident was investigated through both Italian civilian authorities and

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<v Speaker 1>the US military channels. Investigators ultimately determined that Jack's account

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<v Speaker 1>did not justify the use of deadly force, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was charged with manslaughter. He was convicted and sentenced to

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<v Speaker 1>time in an Italian prison. Now Jack ultimately served approximately

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<v Speaker 1>only four months before being released after his mother had

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<v Speaker 1>organized a petition collecting hundreds of different signatures. The petition

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<v Speaker 1>was forwarded to the then President of the United States

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<v Speaker 1>Lyndon B. Johnson, who then intervened diplomatically on Jack's behalf.

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<v Speaker 1>Shortly afterwards, Jack was released and allowed to return to

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<v Speaker 1>the United States, and he was also allowed to continue

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<v Speaker 1>his army career. Legally, the case ended there. Jack resumed

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<v Speaker 1>his military career. He suffered no lasting professional consequences, and

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<v Speaker 1>continued to serve for nearly two more decades before retiring

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<v Speaker 1>as a master sergeant. At the time, the shooting was

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<v Speaker 1>simply treated as an isolated incident, an overseas altercation explained

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<v Speaker 1>by circumstances, youth, bad judgment, and somewhat accidental. Potentially, no

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<v Speaker 1>one connected that shooting to anything larger. It did not

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<v Speaker 1>follow Jack back to Texas in any meaningful way. There

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<v Speaker 1>were no public warnings, no internal alarms, no sense at

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<v Speaker 1>this moment, would you know, kind of make sense and

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<v Speaker 1>matter in hindsight. But it was in fact the first

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<v Speaker 1>time Jack Reeves had ever killed someone, and the first

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<v Speaker 1>time a death associated with him had officially been explained away.

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<v Speaker 1>After returning from Italy, Jack and Sharon Reeves settled into

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<v Speaker 1>Copperas Cove, Texas, a small city outside Fort Hood built

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<v Speaker 1>largely around the rhythms of that same army life. Jack

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<v Speaker 1>continued his career in service. Sharon raised their two sons,

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<v Speaker 1>Ricky and Randall, and managed the household during his frequent absences.

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<v Speaker 1>To neighbors and acquaintances, the family just simply appeared ordinary,

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<v Speaker 1>just another family amongst the rest. Jack was a career soldier,

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<v Speaker 1>Sharon was a homemaker, active in church and social circles.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing about the day to day life suggested that it

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<v Speaker 1>would end violently, but by the nineteen seventies the marriage

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<v Speaker 1>had begun to fracture. While Jack was stationed in South Korea,

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<v Speaker 1>Sharon started an affair with a retired army officer named

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<v Speaker 1>John Benneman. She spoke openly to friends about wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>leave her current marriage, and eventually, in February of nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy eight, Sharon filed for divorce. Her plan, according to

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<v Speaker 1>the people who were closest to her, was to finalize

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<v Speaker 1>the separation and go build a new life. Then Jack

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<v Speaker 1>returned home from South Korea unexpectedly in early July of

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy eight. The timing was actually immediately massive and

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<v Speaker 1>raised some severe tension in the home. Their son even

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<v Speaker 1>later recalled arguments in the weeks that followed, Sharon appeared

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<v Speaker 1>anxious and Jack well, he appeared angry, but the divorce

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<v Speaker 1>while it still proceeded. On July nineteenth, nineteen seventy eight,

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<v Speaker 1>the Coriel County Judge signed the divorce decree. Then the

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<v Speaker 1>following day, July twentieth, nineteen seventy eight, Sharon Reeves was

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<v Speaker 1>shot in the chest with a shotgun inside the couple's home.

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<v Speaker 1>So according to Jack, what had happened was he was

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<v Speaker 1>in the kitchen when he heard a gun shot ring

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<v Speaker 1>through the house. One of their sons was outside, but

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<v Speaker 1>the other wasn't home. Jack told police he ran straight

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<v Speaker 1>into the bedroom and found Sharon on the bed, wounded

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<v Speaker 1>from the shot to the chest, but still alive, with

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<v Speaker 1>the shotgun laying between her legs. When the Coppera's Cove

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<v Speaker 1>police arrived, they found Sharon grievely injured in the home.

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<v Speaker 1>Officer Johnny Smith later recalled that he checked her pulse

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<v Speaker 1>and she grabbed his wrist in a brief moment right

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<v Speaker 1>before she died. Jack told the officers Sharon killed herself.

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<v Speaker 1>He even pointed to a cut on her toe, suggesting

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<v Speaker 1>that she had pulled the trigger with her toe. He

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<v Speaker 1>handed police a note, he said he found in a

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<v Speaker 1>China cabinet, a message Sharon had written, he claimed, explain

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, she was torn between two men and

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty messed up time, though, definitely for something like that

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<v Speaker 2>to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>The day after divorce, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>When really that should kind of almost be like a

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<v Speaker 2>new beginning of sorts.

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<v Speaker 1>Right exactly. There was no autopsy, though that was ordered,

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<v Speaker 1>as the local Justice of Peace ruled that the death

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<v Speaker 1>was in fact a suicide. The explanation that Sharon had

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<v Speaker 1>positioned the shotgun and pulled the trigger with her toe

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<v Speaker 1>was just accepted, and the note was treated as confirmation.

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<v Speaker 1>The scene was photographed, documented and closed just like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Sharon Reeves was thirty four years old when she died,

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<v Speaker 1>and within days the case was over with no criminal investigation,

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<v Speaker 1>no forensic testing beyond what was done at the scene,

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<v Speaker 1>no follow up interviews months later. Nothing. It was as

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<v Speaker 1>if they just assumed, you know what, this was an

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<v Speaker 1>open and shutcase. But even though they thought this was

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<v Speaker 1>so straightforward, the reality was far from different if they

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<v Speaker 1>only looked just a little bit closer. For example, the

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<v Speaker 1>shotgun wound was documented, but no detailed analysis was done

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<v Speaker 1>on distance trajectory or whether Sharon could have physically have

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<v Speaker 1>fired the weapon herself. The note Jack provided it too,

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<v Speaker 1>was accepted at face value. It was not preserved as

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<v Speaker 1>evidence per se. He was not subjected to handwriting analysis.

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<v Speaker 1>Either no attempt was made to verify when it he

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<v Speaker 1>had even been written, or maybe it was written under

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<v Speaker 1>certain circumstances like duress. And most of all, after the

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<v Speaker 1>case was closed well, the note went missing. Police took

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<v Speaker 1>photographs of the bedroom where Sharon was shot too, but

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<v Speaker 1>the images were filed away and largely forgotten, and over

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<v Speaker 1>time most of them were lost as well. Only a

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<v Speaker 1>single crime scene photo would later be found. Witness statements

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<v Speaker 1>were minimal two and Jack's accounts of the events became

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<v Speaker 1>the framework for the official ruling. There was no reconstruction

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<v Speaker 1>of shooting or anything, no follow ups with friends or

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<v Speaker 1>family about her state of mind in the days even

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<v Speaker 1>leading up to her death in nineteen seventy eight. None

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<v Speaker 1>of this stood out as unusual, I mean, for them

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<v Speaker 1>at the time. The notes seemed to offer motive, and

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<v Speaker 1>Sharon's recent divorce and emotional strain fit a narrative investigators

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<v Speaker 1>were accustomed to accepting in situations like this. Less than

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<v Speaker 1>three years after Sharon Reeves's death, Jack Well he remarried

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<v Speaker 1>once again. While stationed in South Korea, Jack met a

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<v Speaker 1>woman by the name of Meunghai Chung, a young Korean

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<v Speaker 1>woman with limited English and no family ties to the

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<v Speaker 1>and soon after Jack brought her back to Texas, where

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<v Speaker 1>he continued his army career until retiring in nineteen eighty

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<v Speaker 1>five as a master sergeant. Now after leaving the military,

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<v Speaker 1>Jack settled into civilian life in Arlington, Texas. He lived

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<v Speaker 1>contracting business that he had and additional money from family inheritance. Together,

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<v Speaker 1>the couple also owned a home, multiple vehicles, and some

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<v Speaker 1>outdoor toys like a fishing boat and a camper. Jack

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<v Speaker 1>actually frequently went camping and fishing, particularly around Lake Whitney,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a large reservoir southwest of Dallas. To all

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<v Speaker 1>outsiders looking in, the marriage was stable like every other

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<v Speaker 1>typical couple, but people closer to Miyanghai Well they later

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<v Speaker 1>described a far different picture. She struggled to adapt to

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<v Speaker 1>and relied heavily on Jack for everyday life. Family members

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<v Speaker 1>in Korea also said that she feared water and could

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<v Speaker 1>not swim, so she generally wasn't exactly going out on

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<v Speaker 1>the boat and enjoying it like Jack was. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>her close friends and family also reported that she confided

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<v Speaker 1>in them that Jack was very controlling and abusive towards her.

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<v Speaker 1>In letters written shortly before her death, Miyanghai described being

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<v Speaker 1>unhappy and wanting to leave the marriage. It was on

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<v Speaker 1>July twenty eighth, nineteen eighty six when the couple went

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<v Speaker 1>were using an inflatable air mattress on the lake. He

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<v Speaker 1>said he stepped away briefly to catch a few grasshoppers

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<v Speaker 1>for bait to go fishing later. Then when he returned,

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<v Speaker 1>Mianghai was gone. Her body was later found floating face

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<v Speaker 1>down in the water. Jack was the only witness. Responding

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<v Speaker 1>officials noted that Jack appeared calm and rather detached as

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<v Speaker 1>his wife's body was recovered, and a park ranger later

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<v Speaker 1>described him as nonchalant. Now When she was recovered, there

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<v Speaker 1>were visible bruises on Myanghai's face, which raised concerns with

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<v Speaker 1>while in fact, she even demanded an autopsy right then

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<v Speaker 1>and there. Instead, though, Jack canceled the burial plans and

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<v Speaker 2>to all this after the fact, it's just like wild.

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<v Speaker 1>It is wild, and you have to remember these are

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<v Speaker 1>someone probably should have looked at it, but you have

421
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<v Speaker 1>to remember with each red flag there was cool off

422
00:25:30.119 --> 00:25:32.359
<v Speaker 1>before the next one. Oh yeah, generally speaking.

423
00:25:32.640 --> 00:25:36.839
<v Speaker 2>But it is very interesting that Cassey she fell off

424
00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:40.000
<v Speaker 2>this air mattress, right, Yes, she hates water. She would

425
00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:43.599
<v Speaker 2>be completely terrified. You would hear things so like Jack

426
00:25:43.720 --> 00:25:47.279
<v Speaker 2>just being like, yeah, I was getting grasshoppers for bait

427
00:25:47.359 --> 00:25:49.359
<v Speaker 2>and then I come back and she's just not there,

428
00:25:49.480 --> 00:25:52.000
<v Speaker 2>Like you would have heard a huge commotion.

429
00:25:51.640 --> 00:25:53.720
<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent. It's complete and larky.

430
00:25:53.880 --> 00:25:56.839
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it doesn't I mean that would just be

431
00:25:56.920 --> 00:25:58.880
<v Speaker 2>so suspicious listening to that, right.

432
00:26:00.200 --> 00:26:02.920
<v Speaker 1>So with that though, no, autopsy was performed. I mean,

433
00:26:02.960 --> 00:26:06.880
<v Speaker 1>at this point she's cremated, she can't be. The local

434
00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Justice of Peace ruled the death an accidental drowning based

435
00:26:10.279 --> 00:26:14.759
<v Speaker 1>solely on Jack's accounts and observations at the scene. I mean,

436
00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:19.680
<v Speaker 1>with no forensic examination, no evidence contradicting, contradicting, I should say,

437
00:26:19.839 --> 00:26:23.839
<v Speaker 1>Jack's accounts, the case well, it's just simply closed. So

438
00:26:23.920 --> 00:26:26.599
<v Speaker 1>with that, for the second time a wife of Jack

439
00:26:26.680 --> 00:26:30.799
<v Speaker 1>Reeves had died under unusual circumstances, and again for the

440
00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:35.799
<v Speaker 1>second time, the official explanation required no further investigation, and

441
00:26:35.920 --> 00:26:40.240
<v Speaker 1>just like before after Miyanghai Chong's death, Jack Reeves did

442
00:26:40.279 --> 00:26:45.839
<v Speaker 1>not wait long before remarrying once again. In nineteen eighty seven,

443
00:26:46.279 --> 00:26:49.440
<v Speaker 1>Jack traveled to the Philippines after selecting an eighteen year

444
00:26:49.440 --> 00:26:54.799
<v Speaker 1>old woman named Emalita Villa through a male order bride's service. Now,

445
00:26:54.880 --> 00:26:58.039
<v Speaker 1>Emalita grew up in poverty, living with her family in

446
00:26:58.079 --> 00:27:01.920
<v Speaker 1>a small hut with very limited resource. Jack was nearly

447
00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:05.400
<v Speaker 1>thirty years old when he and her well got together.

448
00:27:05.559 --> 00:27:08.240
<v Speaker 1>When he appeared to her family as a financially stable

449
00:27:08.279 --> 00:27:11.680
<v Speaker 1>and capable person, someone who was able to offer, you know,

450
00:27:11.720 --> 00:27:15.240
<v Speaker 1>Emelita and her family a better life. He sent money

451
00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:18.920
<v Speaker 1>payments to support her relatives and covered medical expenses for

452
00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:22.160
<v Speaker 1>her mother. The arrangement well, it created a lot of

453
00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:27.359
<v Speaker 1>pressure by several accounts, Primarily, Emelda felt obligated to marry him,

454
00:27:28.720 --> 00:27:31.519
<v Speaker 1>so she moved to Arlington, Texas, and the two of

455
00:27:31.559 --> 00:27:34.880
<v Speaker 1>them soon married. They later even had a son together.

456
00:27:36.279 --> 00:27:40.319
<v Speaker 1>Friends described Emilita as outgoing and social. She built a

457
00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:43.480
<v Speaker 1>close knit group of Filipino friends in the Arlington area

458
00:27:43.880 --> 00:27:46.920
<v Speaker 1>and stayed in frequent contact with them by pager and

459
00:27:46.960 --> 00:27:50.400
<v Speaker 1>cell phone. Over time, she began confiding in them about

460
00:27:50.440 --> 00:27:54.599
<v Speaker 1>her marriage. According to multiple witnesses, she said Jack was

461
00:27:54.599 --> 00:27:58.000
<v Speaker 1>controlling and physically abusive, and that he forced her into

462
00:27:58.079 --> 00:28:02.839
<v Speaker 1>very degrading sexual situations, sometimes even photographing her against her will.

463
00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:05.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh damn okay, I didn't know that.

464
00:28:05.880 --> 00:28:08.680
<v Speaker 1>She told her friends and family how she felt trapped

465
00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:12.039
<v Speaker 1>and afraid in her new marriage, and by nineteen ninety four,

466
00:28:12.359 --> 00:28:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Emlida was openly talking about leaving the situation. She told

467
00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:19.960
<v Speaker 1>friends she plan to divorce Jack and returned to the

468
00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Philippines with her son. She also issued a very clear

469
00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:26.480
<v Speaker 1>warning if she ever stopped answering her phone or pager,

470
00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:31.319
<v Speaker 1>they were to call the police immediately because something would

471
00:28:31.519 --> 00:28:35.839
<v Speaker 1>be wrong. It was on the evening of October eleventh,

472
00:28:36.279 --> 00:28:40.079
<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety four, when Emelda was last seen by her

473
00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:44.480
<v Speaker 1>friends at work. One friend dropped her off at seven pm,

474
00:28:44.839 --> 00:28:48.000
<v Speaker 1>but she never returned the calls later that night. By

475
00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:50.880
<v Speaker 1>the next day, her pager and phone still remained silent,

476
00:28:51.359 --> 00:28:54.400
<v Speaker 1>and on October twelfth, a friend contact at the Arlington

477
00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:58.559
<v Speaker 1>Police Department and requested a welfare check. Officers went to

478
00:28:58.559 --> 00:29:01.319
<v Speaker 1>the Reefs home and when they they walked the perimeter

479
00:29:01.400 --> 00:29:04.079
<v Speaker 1>and saw Jack inside the garage. He came to the

480
00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:07.039
<v Speaker 1>front door and he kind of blocked the entrance and

481
00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:10.599
<v Speaker 1>refused to let officers inside. He told them em Alita

482
00:29:10.680 --> 00:29:13.480
<v Speaker 1>had likely gone off with someone else and said that

483
00:29:13.720 --> 00:29:16.000
<v Speaker 1>she sometimes disappeared for a few days at a time.

484
00:29:17.279 --> 00:29:20.599
<v Speaker 1>Police noticed his agitation, but had no legal grounds for

485
00:29:20.599 --> 00:29:21.319
<v Speaker 1>forced entry.

486
00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:25.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't feel like for anyone in that situation, his

487
00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:29.079
<v Speaker 2>explanation to the police is reasonable in any way.

488
00:29:29.359 --> 00:29:29.559
<v Speaker 1>No.

489
00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:32.480
<v Speaker 2>I agree that she, oh, she's just gone like he

490
00:29:33.119 --> 00:29:37.240
<v Speaker 2>doesn't care, and that that makes sense because I feel

491
00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:39.759
<v Speaker 2>like anyone in a married relationship like that would know

492
00:29:39.880 --> 00:29:42.359
<v Speaker 2>where they are when they're going to be back and stuff.

493
00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:45.799
<v Speaker 2>You know, to a degree most most time.

494
00:29:46.440 --> 00:29:49.519
<v Speaker 1>Correct, You are right. I agree with that. However, there's

495
00:29:49.559 --> 00:29:53.039
<v Speaker 1>a different situation here. The situation that police are seeing,

496
00:29:53.079 --> 00:29:55.200
<v Speaker 1>and the reason why they're believing him is because it's

497
00:29:55.720 --> 00:30:01.079
<v Speaker 1>a failing marriage, so they don't have contact. She's running off,

498
00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:03.680
<v Speaker 1>she has another lover. I have no fucking clue what

499
00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:06.759
<v Speaker 1>she's doing. Is kind of the attitude. Yes, So if

500
00:30:06.759 --> 00:30:09.559
<v Speaker 1>there's a split and a divide between the couple, they're

501
00:30:09.559 --> 00:30:12.759
<v Speaker 1>no longer contacting each other, they're no longer confiding in

502
00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:16.279
<v Speaker 1>each other. That's what makes it that believable portion, because

503
00:30:16.279 --> 00:30:19.839
<v Speaker 1>police do know, Hey, she's looking at leaving him, right

504
00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:22.160
<v Speaker 1>and now he's kind of repeating the same story. So

505
00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:25.920
<v Speaker 1>it seems reasonable, seems real, and seems likely.

506
00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:28.759
<v Speaker 2>And there isn't really anything they can do yet exactly.

507
00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:31.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because friends are saying, yeah, she's scared of him,

508
00:30:31.640 --> 00:30:33.880
<v Speaker 1>she wants to leave. We need to welfare check. We

509
00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:36.720
<v Speaker 1>haven't heard from her. Okay, we show up and he says, yeah,

510
00:30:36.759 --> 00:30:39.079
<v Speaker 1>she left, she's off with some other fucking lover. I

511
00:30:39.079 --> 00:30:39.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know where she is.

512
00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:44.400
<v Speaker 2>It sounds plausible, huh, I guess, I guess. I mean

513
00:30:44.440 --> 00:30:46.559
<v Speaker 2>the Yeah, they already knew that there was issues. I

514
00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:50.359
<v Speaker 2>suppose yeah, so ah, okay.

515
00:30:50.279 --> 00:30:52.480
<v Speaker 1>But I see what you're saying. If only they dig

516
00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:54.759
<v Speaker 1>a little deeper. But thankfully in this case, they eventually

517
00:30:54.920 --> 00:30:55.319
<v Speaker 1>they do.

518
00:30:55.599 --> 00:30:55.839
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

519
00:30:56.799 --> 00:30:59.799
<v Speaker 1>Now, within days of him giving this bullshit excuse to police,

520
00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Emilita's Nissan Pathfinder was found abandoned at a shopping center

521
00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:07.680
<v Speaker 1>that she frequented, and Jack showed very little concern over

522
00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:11.039
<v Speaker 1>this revelation too. He told different people different versions of

523
00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:13.920
<v Speaker 1>why she had gone, suggesting she had a boyfriend girlfriend,

524
00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:16.599
<v Speaker 1>or that she simply walked out on him and their child.

525
00:31:16.640 --> 00:31:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Whatever it was, it still painted that picture of he

526
00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:23.920
<v Speaker 1>doesn't know what's going on. Right. What unsettled those closest

527
00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:27.759
<v Speaker 1>to Emilita, though, wasn't just that she was missing. It

528
00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:30.480
<v Speaker 1>was that she'd been planning to leave and then suddenly

529
00:31:30.519 --> 00:31:34.400
<v Speaker 1>she just vanishes. And this time investigators did not let

530
00:31:34.440 --> 00:31:37.960
<v Speaker 1>the case quietly close, but to start off. In the

531
00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:42.799
<v Speaker 1>first days after Emilida's was reported missing, Arlington police treated

532
00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:46.319
<v Speaker 1>the case as a possible voluntary disappearance. Right she went

533
00:31:46.359 --> 00:31:48.559
<v Speaker 1>off on her own, She was in fact an adult,

534
00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:51.720
<v Speaker 1>after all. There was no visible signs of violence or

535
00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:57.519
<v Speaker 1>her seemingly trustworthy husband being anything other than that. He

536
00:31:57.599 --> 00:31:59.880
<v Speaker 1>simply claimed that she had left and that was that.

537
00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:05.319
<v Speaker 1>But as detectives began speaking with Emilita's friends, that explanation

538
00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:09.000
<v Speaker 1>started to fracture. Several of them told the police that

539
00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Emilita had been afraid of her husband and that she

540
00:32:11.960 --> 00:32:15.160
<v Speaker 1>had openly talked about leaving him, and she had given

541
00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:18.640
<v Speaker 1>an explicit instruction that has she ever stopped answering her

542
00:32:18.680 --> 00:32:23.759
<v Speaker 1>pager or phone, police were to be contacted immediately. That

543
00:32:23.880 --> 00:32:26.079
<v Speaker 1>detail stood out big time.

544
00:32:26.720 --> 00:32:30.160
<v Speaker 2>I do love that she had such a support system, yes,

545
00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:34.839
<v Speaker 2>and that really her disappearance was reported so quickly it was,

546
00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:37.240
<v Speaker 2>and I think that's freaking awesome.

547
00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:40.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, massive, massive. If you ever find yourself in

548
00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:43.079
<v Speaker 1>a situation where you're not sure of your own safety,

549
00:32:43.480 --> 00:32:46.599
<v Speaker 1>confide in those around you. They will be the ones

550
00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:50.079
<v Speaker 1>who help you get through this one way or another,

551
00:32:50.440 --> 00:32:53.599
<v Speaker 1>whether it's you know, contacting police, whether it's finding you

552
00:32:53.640 --> 00:32:56.160
<v Speaker 1>know what a way for you to get out. That's

553
00:32:56.279 --> 00:32:58.720
<v Speaker 1>your support system. And she relied on hers, Yes, so

554
00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:02.640
<v Speaker 1>props to her for that. Now. Missing persons cases often

555
00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:09.039
<v Speaker 1>hinge on ambiguity. You know, people leave relationships and contacts fate, etc.

556
00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:12.000
<v Speaker 1>That sort of stuff. So basically, when this pattern came

557
00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:14.720
<v Speaker 1>out in this case, well, let's just say it meant

558
00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:18.559
<v Speaker 1>that Emilida's disappearance basically came with a built in alarm

559
00:33:18.640 --> 00:33:21.640
<v Speaker 1>system telling police to look closer because you have those

560
00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:23.960
<v Speaker 1>friends saying actually no, she told us to call you

561
00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:27.480
<v Speaker 1>if this were to happen, and this is happening. So

562
00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:31.599
<v Speaker 1>after all, she had anticipated this possibility that this could happen.

563
00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:37.039
<v Speaker 1>So fantastic they have this. Detective Tom Lenore was soon

564
00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:40.359
<v Speaker 1>assigned to the case, and as he reviewed Emilida's background,

565
00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:44.119
<v Speaker 1>he learned that she was Jack's fourth wife, and that

566
00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:48.000
<v Speaker 1>the marriage itself fit a very familiar pattern. There was

567
00:33:48.039 --> 00:33:52.680
<v Speaker 1>a large gap in age, there was financial dependence, isolation,

568
00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:57.440
<v Speaker 1>and escalating conflict in the months before the disappearance. And

569
00:33:57.480 --> 00:34:00.920
<v Speaker 1>when Detective Lenoir, well, when he requested Jack's marital history

570
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:03.720
<v Speaker 1>to dig a bit deeper into it, what he found

571
00:34:03.839 --> 00:34:09.039
<v Speaker 1>shifted the entire investigation. Jack's second wife, Sharon, had died

572
00:34:09.079 --> 00:34:11.199
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen seventy eight from a shotgun wound to the

573
00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:14.920
<v Speaker 1>chest officially ruled a suicide as we know, and his

574
00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:19.280
<v Speaker 1>third wife, Meong, had drowned in Lake Whitney the very

575
00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:22.559
<v Speaker 1>Lake he goes camping in very often. In nineteen eighty six,

576
00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Well it was ruled an accident, and now his fourth

577
00:34:25.920 --> 00:34:29.280
<v Speaker 1>wife had vanished while telling friends that she had planned

578
00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:35.519
<v Speaker 1>to leave. After learning about this, Detective Leonore contacted compress

579
00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:38.719
<v Speaker 1>Cove police to review Sharon Reeves case file, and he

580
00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:43.960
<v Speaker 1>also contacted Hill County officials regarding Meong Reeves drowning. Neither

581
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:47.559
<v Speaker 1>case had resulted in charges, and both had been closed

582
00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:53.239
<v Speaker 1>very quickly, but neither had undergone forensic review before this.

583
00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:56.800
<v Speaker 1>This would be the first time now. Something that stuck

584
00:34:56.840 --> 00:35:01.199
<v Speaker 1>with Detective Leonore was the timing in each death. It

585
00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:04.679
<v Speaker 1>seemed that each woman had been preparing to leave Jack.

586
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:08.159
<v Speaker 1>In each case, Jack was the only adult present or

587
00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:11.320
<v Speaker 1>primary witness to the events, and in each case, the

588
00:35:11.400 --> 00:35:17.000
<v Speaker 1>official ruling depended almost entirely on Jack's accounts of what

589
00:35:17.079 --> 00:35:22.480
<v Speaker 1>had happened. As investigators began to reinterview Jack, his behavior

590
00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:27.400
<v Speaker 1>became another point of interest in the case. He was articulate, confident,

591
00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:30.639
<v Speaker 1>and very comfortable speaking at length about his military service,

592
00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:36.000
<v Speaker 1>his property, and even his relationships. But when detectives challenged

593
00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:39.400
<v Speaker 1>his statements or pressed about specifics. Maybe it was Emilia's

594
00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:44.119
<v Speaker 1>whereabouts whatever. He shut down the conversation entirely. It was

595
00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:48.960
<v Speaker 1>almost like he was operating only on his parameters, his story,

596
00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:52.800
<v Speaker 1>whether true or false, and no one else could challenge him.

597
00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:56.719
<v Speaker 1>He refused a polygraph test, he denied officers entry into

598
00:35:56.719 --> 00:36:00.159
<v Speaker 1>his home, and he also declined to provide further explanation

599
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:01.639
<v Speaker 1>for Emilita's disappearance.

600
00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:03.880
<v Speaker 2>It's almost like he's done this before.

601
00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:08.639
<v Speaker 1>Almost like he's done this before, Yes, exactly now. During

602
00:36:08.679 --> 00:36:12.559
<v Speaker 1>one interview, though, Jack volunteered a detail without being prompted,

603
00:36:13.159 --> 00:36:16.239
<v Speaker 1>and it was a very odd one at that. You see,

604
00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:20.159
<v Speaker 1>he asked detectives whether he would be blamed if Emilita

605
00:36:20.280 --> 00:36:25.320
<v Speaker 1>were found at Lake Whitney. Oh yeah, okay, So he's like, well,

606
00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:27.519
<v Speaker 1>if you guys were to find her out there, would

607
00:36:27.559 --> 00:36:29.960
<v Speaker 1>that circle back to me because he spends.

608
00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:33.519
<v Speaker 2>Time there, right, Yeah, what an odd question to ask, right.

609
00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:37.079
<v Speaker 1>It was very specific and to Detective Lenore, this question

610
00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:40.159
<v Speaker 1>landed very heavily because Lake Whitney was, yeah, not a

611
00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:44.039
<v Speaker 1>random location. It's where he camped frequently. But not only that,

612
00:36:44.679 --> 00:36:48.440
<v Speaker 1>it's also where his third wife had drowned eight years earlier.

613
00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:52.760
<v Speaker 1>By the spring of nineteen ninety five, Sharon Reeves's death

614
00:36:52.840 --> 00:36:55.440
<v Speaker 1>was no longer a closed case because now it had

615
00:36:55.480 --> 00:37:00.079
<v Speaker 1>a well glaringly large question mark above it. Detective Tom

616
00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:04.280
<v Speaker 1>Lenore and the other investigators began pulling whatever remained out

617
00:37:04.280 --> 00:37:08.159
<v Speaker 1>of the nineteen seventy eight case file. Except what they

618
00:37:08.199 --> 00:37:11.440
<v Speaker 1>found was thin, far thinner than they hoped to find,

619
00:37:11.679 --> 00:37:14.559
<v Speaker 1>especially for a death that had been ruled a suicide

620
00:37:14.599 --> 00:37:17.800
<v Speaker 1>involving a gun. For example, the fact that there'd be

621
00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:22.119
<v Speaker 1>no autopsy. It hadn't been done because well one sugg

622
00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:25.239
<v Speaker 1>justice the piece determined Sharon's death was self inflicted. Further

623
00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:29.440
<v Speaker 1>medical examination was canceled. Also, the suicide note Jack claimed

624
00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:33.119
<v Speaker 1>to have found was never preserved as evidence, and no

625
00:37:33.239 --> 00:37:36.159
<v Speaker 1>handwriting analysis had ever been done. Most of the original

626
00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:40.159
<v Speaker 1>case scene photographs, while they are gone too. In fact,

627
00:37:40.599 --> 00:37:44.760
<v Speaker 1>only one photograph remained. It showed Sharon Reeves lying on

628
00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:48.199
<v Speaker 1>the bed nude with a shotgun position between her legs.

629
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<v Speaker 1>The image had been taken very quickly before the scene

630
00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:55.320
<v Speaker 1>was disturbed and then filed away for nearly two decades.

631
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<v Speaker 1>Detective Leonore had this one piece of evidence, and he

632
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:05.199
<v Speaker 1>studied this singular photograph carefully for every single detail he

633
00:38:05.199 --> 00:38:09.519
<v Speaker 1>could find, and the placement of the shotgun immediately raised questions,

634
00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:13.519
<v Speaker 1>so did Sharon's position on the bed, But that wasn't

635
00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:17.159
<v Speaker 1>all the blood pattern visible in the photo. It appeared

636
00:38:17.239 --> 00:38:21.159
<v Speaker 1>inconsistent with someone sitting or laying down at the moment

637
00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:27.639
<v Speaker 1>a gun was fired. It was honestly all off. Investigators

638
00:38:27.639 --> 00:38:31.760
<v Speaker 1>sent the photograph to bloodstained pattern experts, and their conclusion

639
00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:37.000
<v Speaker 1>was pretty direct. Sharon would have been standing when she

640
00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:39.880
<v Speaker 1>was shot, not laying on the bed like she was

641
00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:44.519
<v Speaker 1>shown in the photo. That singular finding unraveled the entire

642
00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:49.239
<v Speaker 1>original suicide theory. The explanation given in nineteen seventy eight

643
00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:51.719
<v Speaker 1>that Sharon had pulled the trigger with her toe while

644
00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:55.559
<v Speaker 1>it was already physically questionable, but now it appeared even

645
00:38:55.639 --> 00:39:00.840
<v Speaker 1>less plausible. If she'd been standing, the mechanics required to

646
00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:05.400
<v Speaker 1>fire a shotgun in that manner became extremely unlikely, if

647
00:39:05.440 --> 00:39:11.679
<v Speaker 1>not impossible altogether. So, with permission from Sharon's family, investigators

648
00:39:11.760 --> 00:39:15.639
<v Speaker 1>ordered her body to be exhumed for examination, but there

649
00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:19.760
<v Speaker 1>were concerns Sharon had been buried in the Texas heat

650
00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:25.719
<v Speaker 1>for sixteen years. Thankfully, though, Jack paid for a sealed,

651
00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:29.599
<v Speaker 1>high end metal casket, so when they dug up the

652
00:39:29.639 --> 00:39:32.719
<v Speaker 1>casket and it was opened, her remains were actually in

653
00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:36.400
<v Speaker 1>remarkably well preserved condition for what they thought they would find.

654
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Doctor Jeffrey Barnard of the Dallas County Medical Examiner's Office

655
00:39:41.400 --> 00:39:44.760
<v Speaker 1>was the one to conduct the autopsy, and he found

656
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:50.719
<v Speaker 1>a lot. He found no evidence of close range firing,

657
00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:53.639
<v Speaker 1>such as stippling or powder burns that would have been

658
00:39:53.719 --> 00:39:58.719
<v Speaker 1>expected in a contact or near contact suicide. The trajectory

659
00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:01.760
<v Speaker 1>of the wound also did not align with a self

660
00:40:01.800 --> 00:40:05.159
<v Speaker 1>inflicted shot, and at the angle, while it suggested the

661
00:40:05.159 --> 00:40:07.760
<v Speaker 1>gun was fired from in front of Sharon while she

662
00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:13.400
<v Speaker 1>was upright so standing, ultimately, doctor Bernard cluded the manner

663
00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:19.599
<v Speaker 1>of death was inconsistent with a suicide. Investigators also revisited

664
00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:22.119
<v Speaker 1>the original claim that Sharon had been naked at the

665
00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:26.280
<v Speaker 1>time of death. Bloodstain analysis indicated she had likely been

666
00:40:26.280 --> 00:40:29.840
<v Speaker 1>wearing at least a bra and underwear when she was shot,

667
00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:33.239
<v Speaker 1>which directly contradicted the position in which her body had

668
00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:38.320
<v Speaker 1>been found when she was found nude. The investigation didn't

669
00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:41.719
<v Speaker 1>simply stop at that, though analyzing the image and getting

670
00:40:41.719 --> 00:40:44.840
<v Speaker 1>the autopsy were great. However, they took it one step

671
00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:48.679
<v Speaker 1>further still, you see, to really test that suicide theory.

672
00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Police conducted re enactments using a woman of similar size

673
00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:58.119
<v Speaker 1>and the same model of shotgun, although obviously decommissioned. What

674
00:40:58.159 --> 00:41:02.280
<v Speaker 1>they found was that even under controlled conditions, it proved

675
00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:07.199
<v Speaker 1>extremely difficult, often impossible, to fire the weapon with a

676
00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:11.360
<v Speaker 1>toe while standing in the position Sharon would need to be.

677
00:41:11.360 --> 00:41:14.239
<v Speaker 2>In that like, blew my mind.

678
00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Isn't that wild? Right?

679
00:41:16.039 --> 00:41:19.400
<v Speaker 2>It's yeah, yeah, it's unreal. I mean, if only they

680
00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:20.599
<v Speaker 2>have done that at the time.

681
00:41:20.440 --> 00:41:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Right, So for sure. By March of nineteen ninety five,

682
00:41:23.840 --> 00:41:28.840
<v Speaker 1>the conclusion investigators had resisted for years became unavoidable. Sharon

683
00:41:28.920 --> 00:41:33.119
<v Speaker 1>Reeves had not killed herself. It was on March thirtieth,

684
00:41:33.280 --> 00:41:37.199
<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety five, when a Coriel County grand jury indicted

685
00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Jack Wayne Reeves for her murder, seventeen years after she died.

686
00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:44.800
<v Speaker 1>For the first time, the case that had quietly ended

687
00:41:44.800 --> 00:41:49.599
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen seventy eight was officially reopened as a homicide

688
00:41:50.119 --> 00:41:53.800
<v Speaker 1>and had forced investigators to confront an unsettling possibility that

689
00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Sharon Reeves was not an isolated incident, and from there

690
00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:03.400
<v Speaker 1>investigators stepped back and laid the cases out side by side.

691
00:42:03.480 --> 00:42:06.239
<v Speaker 1>What emerged was not a single piece of damning evidence,

692
00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:11.639
<v Speaker 1>but a timeline that kept repeating itself. Sharon Reeves died

693
00:42:11.639 --> 00:42:15.079
<v Speaker 1>in July of nineteen seventy eight, just days after finalizing

694
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:18.920
<v Speaker 1>a divorce and while actively planning a future with another man,

695
00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:22.880
<v Speaker 1>miong Reeves, while she drowned in July of nineteen eighty

696
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:25.679
<v Speaker 1>six after writing to family members about the abuse and

697
00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:30.639
<v Speaker 1>expressing unhappiness in her marriage. And Melita Vila vanished in

698
00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:34.199
<v Speaker 1>October nineteen ninety four after telling friends that she intended

699
00:42:34.199 --> 00:42:36.920
<v Speaker 1>to leave Jack and had arranged a plan for what

700
00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:40.880
<v Speaker 1>to do if she ever disappeared. In all three of

701
00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:44.760
<v Speaker 1>these cases, the women were preparing to leave the relationship.

702
00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:47.719
<v Speaker 1>In all three of these cases, Jack was the last

703
00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:50.320
<v Speaker 1>known adult with them or the only witness to what

704
00:42:50.360 --> 00:42:54.079
<v Speaker 1>had happened, and in all three cases, the initial ruling

705
00:42:54.159 --> 00:43:00.800
<v Speaker 1>depended almost entirely on Jack's version of events. Bigators also

706
00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:04.519
<v Speaker 1>began to look closely at Jack's behavior during each one

707
00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:08.480
<v Speaker 1>of the incidents. In nineteen seventy eight, officers noticed that

708
00:43:08.519 --> 00:43:12.360
<v Speaker 1>he appeared calm and conversational after Sharon was shot, even

709
00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:18.000
<v Speaker 1>discussing his sexual experiences overseas while standing near the scene.

710
00:43:18.039 --> 00:43:21.079
<v Speaker 1>In nineteen eighty six, Park rangers and deputies described him

711
00:43:21.079 --> 00:43:25.880
<v Speaker 1>as detached and unemotional. After Meong's drowning in nineteen ninety four,

712
00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:30.159
<v Speaker 1>Officers responding to Emalita's disappearance found him defensive, evasive, and

713
00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:34.800
<v Speaker 1>unwilling to allow plea police into the home. Each time,

714
00:43:35.400 --> 00:43:39.239
<v Speaker 1>Jack offered explanations quickly and often unprompted, painting the scene

715
00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:42.800
<v Speaker 1>for investigators how he wanted them to see it. He

716
00:43:42.840 --> 00:43:46.119
<v Speaker 1>framed how Sharon's death was a suicide, he framed Meong's

717
00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:49.280
<v Speaker 1>death as a tragic accident, and now he framed Emalita's

718
00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:53.880
<v Speaker 1>disappearance as a betrayal and abandonment. And not once did

719
00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:58.559
<v Speaker 1>he ever appear to actually be grieving. But detectives noted

720
00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:03.400
<v Speaker 1>Jack's while his consistent need to control the conversation when

721
00:44:03.440 --> 00:44:07.000
<v Speaker 1>speaking with police, neighbors, or friends. He was confident and

722
00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:09.480
<v Speaker 1>articulate so long as he was the one to set

723
00:44:09.480 --> 00:44:13.599
<v Speaker 1>the topic. The moment questions turned towards contradictions or challenging

724
00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:17.719
<v Speaker 1>his narrative, that's when he withdrew, shutting down interviews or

725
00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:24.320
<v Speaker 1>refusing cooperation entirely. During the investigation, financial details were also revisited.

726
00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:28.760
<v Speaker 1>Jack had received significant military death benefits following Sharon's death,

727
00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:31.360
<v Speaker 1>he had retained a large sum of money belonging to

728
00:44:31.400 --> 00:44:34.480
<v Speaker 1>his father after agreeing to hold it during a divorce,

729
00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:38.400
<v Speaker 1>and later refused to return it. But what was really

730
00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:42.280
<v Speaker 1>eye opening to investigators was after Emilita had disappeared, he

731
00:44:42.360 --> 00:44:45.800
<v Speaker 1>began searching for another mail order bride within weeks.

732
00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh dang.

733
00:44:48.719 --> 00:44:52.320
<v Speaker 1>None of these facts alone proved murder, but together they

734
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:57.320
<v Speaker 1>suggested a very serious motive. They suggested opportunity and a

735
00:44:57.400 --> 00:45:00.039
<v Speaker 1>very long standing pattern of behavior that could know no

736
00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:03.400
<v Speaker 1>longer be dismissed as hey, a simple coincidence.

737
00:45:03.559 --> 00:45:06.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and apparently he just doesn't give a shit about.

738
00:45:06.079 --> 00:45:10.719
<v Speaker 1>Loss, exactly right. So, by the summer of nineteen ninety five,

739
00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:14.199
<v Speaker 1>Arlington Police were no longer operating under the assumption that

740
00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:19.519
<v Speaker 1>Emilida Villa Reeves was alive. The investigation had while it

741
00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:23.239
<v Speaker 1>installed in terms of locating her, but it had intensified

742
00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:27.119
<v Speaker 1>in another direction, reconstructing what had happened in the days

743
00:45:27.199 --> 00:45:32.599
<v Speaker 1>immediately after she vanished. And that reconstruction, well, it began

744
00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:37.880
<v Speaker 1>with Jack's own son, Randall Reeves, Jack's younger son from

745
00:45:37.880 --> 00:45:41.760
<v Speaker 1>his marriage to Sharon, came forward with information he had

746
00:45:41.800 --> 00:45:46.400
<v Speaker 1>not initially shared. He told the investigators that shortly after

747
00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Emilid had disappeared, his father asked him to help dispose

748
00:45:49.519 --> 00:45:52.719
<v Speaker 1>of items from the house. One of those items was

749
00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:58.320
<v Speaker 1>Emilida's cell phone. Randall said Jack instructed him to hide it. However,

750
00:45:59.159 --> 00:46:01.360
<v Speaker 1>Randall decided that he was going to turn it over

751
00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:05.440
<v Speaker 1>to police. He also told investigators that Jack had gutted

752
00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:09.559
<v Speaker 1>a nearly new sofa and thrown it away, then thoroughly

753
00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:13.719
<v Speaker 1>washed the truck used to transport this. The timing stood

754
00:46:13.719 --> 00:46:19.079
<v Speaker 1>out immediately this cleanup, while it occurred almost immediately after

755
00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:23.360
<v Speaker 1>Emilita was last seen, and Randall, while he also placed

756
00:46:23.480 --> 00:46:29.599
<v Speaker 1>his father guess where at Lake Whitney. According to his statement,

757
00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:33.559
<v Speaker 1>Jack went camping there on October thirteenth, nineteen ninety four,

758
00:46:33.840 --> 00:46:39.159
<v Speaker 1>the day after Emlita was reported missing. This directly contradicted

759
00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:42.159
<v Speaker 1>Jack's earlier claims about his whereabouts and movements that he

760
00:46:42.239 --> 00:46:45.599
<v Speaker 1>told police, and it further tied Emalita's disappearance to the

761
00:46:45.639 --> 00:46:49.320
<v Speaker 1>same location where miong Reeves had died eight years earlier.

762
00:46:50.239 --> 00:46:53.119
<v Speaker 1>Detectives began to search the area around Lake Whitney, but

763
00:46:53.639 --> 00:46:57.679
<v Speaker 1>initially found nothing Without a body, the case remained circumstantial

764
00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:02.559
<v Speaker 1>Jack meanwhile continued to insist Emelida had abandoned him. He

765
00:47:02.639 --> 00:47:06.519
<v Speaker 1>distributed missing persons flyers, offered a reward, and filed for divorce,

766
00:47:06.599 --> 00:47:10.920
<v Speaker 1>claiming that she had left voluntarily. Nearly a year had

767
00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:14.880
<v Speaker 1>passed with no sign of her as investigators continued to look,

768
00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:19.119
<v Speaker 1>and it wasn't until October nineteen ninety five when a

769
00:47:19.199 --> 00:47:21.440
<v Speaker 1>hunter and his young son were walking through the wooded

770
00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:25.800
<v Speaker 1>area near Lake Whitney when they noticed human remains partially

771
00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:30.599
<v Speaker 1>exposed in a shallow creek bed. The remains were skeletal,

772
00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:34.360
<v Speaker 1>with long black hair still visible the grave that was

773
00:47:34.440 --> 00:47:36.880
<v Speaker 1>kinda dug while it was very shallow and the location

774
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:40.599
<v Speaker 1>was extremely remote, and it was within the same general

775
00:47:40.599 --> 00:47:46.079
<v Speaker 1>area where Jack had camped immediately after she disappeared. Police

776
00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:50.320
<v Speaker 1>were quickly called to and investigators recovered the remains. Dental

777
00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:55.239
<v Speaker 1>records soon confirmed the identity. The remains belonged to Emelda

778
00:47:55.679 --> 00:48:00.320
<v Speaker 1>Villa Reeves. Due to the condition of her remains, medical

779
00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:04.400
<v Speaker 1>examiners could not determine a precise cause of death. There

780
00:48:04.440 --> 00:48:07.400
<v Speaker 1>were no bullets, no obvious knife marks, and no soft

781
00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:10.079
<v Speaker 1>tissue left to examine, but the manner of burial and

782
00:48:10.119 --> 00:48:15.039
<v Speaker 1>the location ruled out accident or suicide, and so that

783
00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:18.760
<v Speaker 1>only leaves one avenue left, and the case was officially

784
00:48:18.800 --> 00:48:25.280
<v Speaker 1>classified as a homicide. On October thirtieth, nineteen ninety five,

785
00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:28.599
<v Speaker 1>Jack Wayne Reeves was indicted for the murder of his

786
00:48:28.679 --> 00:48:33.039
<v Speaker 1>fourth wife, with Sharon Reeves murderer charge already pending. The

787
00:48:33.079 --> 00:48:36.159
<v Speaker 1>investigation that began as a missing person's call had now

788
00:48:36.199 --> 00:48:41.400
<v Speaker 1>produced two homicide cases, separated by seventeen years and connected

789
00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:44.400
<v Speaker 1>by one man and anchored by the same stretch of

790
00:48:44.519 --> 00:48:48.280
<v Speaker 1>land near Lake Whitney, and by the year nineteen ninety six.

791
00:48:48.920 --> 00:48:51.599
<v Speaker 1>Early on, Jack Reeves was no longer a suspect living

792
00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:55.400
<v Speaker 1>under scrutiny. He was a defendant facing two separate murder cases,

793
00:48:55.760 --> 00:49:00.000
<v Speaker 1>and the first case to go to trial was Sharon Reeves.

794
00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:05.400
<v Speaker 1>Prosecution's case focused almost entirely on forensics and reconstruction. There

795
00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:07.960
<v Speaker 1>were no eyewitnesses to the shooting other than you know

796
00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Jack himself. Instead, the state walked the jury through what

797
00:49:11.559 --> 00:49:14.960
<v Speaker 1>had happened and what they had missed the first time,

798
00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:20.039
<v Speaker 1>the single remaining crime scene photograph, the blood stained pattern analysis,

799
00:49:20.159 --> 00:49:23.079
<v Speaker 1>the autopsy finding from the nineteen ninety five exemption, and

800
00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:27.039
<v Speaker 1>the re enactment demonstration using the same model of shotgun.

801
00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:30.679
<v Speaker 1>Experts testified that Sharon had been standing when she was shot.

802
00:49:31.079 --> 00:49:35.039
<v Speaker 1>They explained why a tow trigger theory was physically improbable,

803
00:49:35.159 --> 00:49:38.280
<v Speaker 1>if not impossible, given the height of the victim and

804
00:49:38.320 --> 00:49:41.199
<v Speaker 1>the length of the weapon and the angle of the wound.

805
00:49:42.199 --> 00:49:45.239
<v Speaker 1>Demonstrations in court even showed how difficult it was to

806
00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:48.199
<v Speaker 1>try and fire the shotgun in the manner Jack described,

807
00:49:48.400 --> 00:49:52.639
<v Speaker 1>especially while standing. The defense, though, argued that the suicide, well,

808
00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:56.559
<v Speaker 1>it was still possible. They pointed to Sharon's emotional stress,

809
00:49:56.800 --> 00:49:59.400
<v Speaker 1>the divorce proceedings, and the note Jack claimed she had

810
00:49:59.480 --> 00:50:03.440
<v Speaker 1>left behind, and they challenge the reliability of reconstructing a

811
00:50:03.480 --> 00:50:07.039
<v Speaker 1>death nearly two decades later, and emphasized that the original

812
00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:09.800
<v Speaker 1>ruling had in fact been suicide.

813
00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:13.599
<v Speaker 2>Well, even just to sit back and listen to that,

814
00:50:14.079 --> 00:50:16.199
<v Speaker 2>it's like, because it was like.

815
00:50:16.119 --> 00:50:18.559
<v Speaker 1>A long rifle, right, yeah, it was a shotgun.

816
00:50:18.639 --> 00:50:22.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And so someone doing that with their foot, I

817
00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:25.920
<v Speaker 2>don't know, it almost seems like impossible even just listening

818
00:50:26.039 --> 00:50:26.719
<v Speaker 2>and hearing that.

819
00:50:27.159 --> 00:50:29.639
<v Speaker 1>Definitely, there are cases where people try and do that

820
00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:32.519
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people end up missing the mark,

821
00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:35.000
<v Speaker 1>and like, well, I mean, shooting themselves in the chest

822
00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:37.159
<v Speaker 1>is that's even more difficult. But people miss and like

823
00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:39.840
<v Speaker 1>in shooting themselves in the head suicide wise and they

824
00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:42.400
<v Speaker 1>end up like doing it wrong and they still survive.

825
00:50:42.559 --> 00:50:46.559
<v Speaker 1>And because those angles they're so difficult. So yeah, it

826
00:50:46.599 --> 00:50:49.880
<v Speaker 1>basically just paints a big old picture of malarkey, is

827
00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:50.480
<v Speaker 1>what it does.

828
00:50:50.679 --> 00:50:53.039
<v Speaker 2>Well. Yeah, especially to be laying down on a bed too,

829
00:50:53.119 --> 00:50:56.800
<v Speaker 2>because if you were standing doing that, you would, you

830
00:50:56.840 --> 00:50:59.440
<v Speaker 2>know from what I heerd too, and I think you've

831
00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:00.840
<v Speaker 2>alluded to this, you'd fall forward.

832
00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh, you definitely would. So what you would have to

833
00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:08.000
<v Speaker 1>do for how she was shot standing up picture this.

834
00:51:08.079 --> 00:51:11.039
<v Speaker 1>You would have to stand on one leg, hold a

835
00:51:11.760 --> 00:51:16.480
<v Speaker 1>long barrel shotgun with the barrel pointed towards you, lift

836
00:51:16.599 --> 00:51:19.679
<v Speaker 1>up your one leg and then pull the trigger, all

837
00:51:19.719 --> 00:51:22.920
<v Speaker 1>while on one leg. You can't have the shotgun angle

838
00:51:23.039 --> 00:51:25.079
<v Speaker 1>down resting on the ground to pull it, because that's

839
00:51:25.079 --> 00:51:27.480
<v Speaker 1>not the angle she was shot at. Yeah, the angle

840
00:51:27.599 --> 00:51:30.239
<v Speaker 1>was with it up almost. I'm not saying parallel, but

841
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:34.719
<v Speaker 1>about parallel ish, so about parallel with the ground, and

842
00:51:34.719 --> 00:51:36.159
<v Speaker 1>then you have to lift your leg up to pull

843
00:51:36.199 --> 00:51:36.760
<v Speaker 1>that trigger.

844
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:41.760
<v Speaker 2>Like no way, Yeah, it seems damn near impossible, as

845
00:51:42.079 --> 00:51:43.800
<v Speaker 2>you know what they're saying exactly.

846
00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:45.800
<v Speaker 1>So if you're going to try and even try and

847
00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:50.480
<v Speaker 1>do that, you're going to be falling. After five days

848
00:51:50.519 --> 00:51:53.480
<v Speaker 1>of testimony inside the court, the jury retired to deliberate

849
00:51:53.599 --> 00:51:58.239
<v Speaker 1>shortly before returning to read the verdict. On January third,

850
00:51:58.320 --> 00:52:03.039
<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety six, the jury found Jack Wayne Reeves guilty

851
00:52:03.360 --> 00:52:06.719
<v Speaker 1>of murdering his second wife, Sharon Reeves, and ultimately he

852
00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:11.599
<v Speaker 1>was sentenced to thirty five years in prison. The second

853
00:52:11.679 --> 00:52:15.719
<v Speaker 1>trial followed months later and focused on Emelita Villa Reeves.

854
00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:19.199
<v Speaker 1>This case, of course, looked very different. There was no

855
00:52:19.320 --> 00:52:22.079
<v Speaker 1>cause of death, there was no murder weapon, no confession,

856
00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:24.960
<v Speaker 1>nothing like that. The prosecution, while they acknowledged from the

857
00:52:25.039 --> 00:52:29.280
<v Speaker 1>onset that this was a circumstantial case and for their side,

858
00:52:29.480 --> 00:52:33.159
<v Speaker 1>while they built a timeline, they presented evidence that Emelda

859
00:52:33.239 --> 00:52:35.840
<v Speaker 1>had told friends she planned to leave Jack and feared him.

860
00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:39.480
<v Speaker 1>They introduced testimony about Jack's behavior when police first came

861
00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:42.599
<v Speaker 1>to his home, his refusal to let officers inside, and

862
00:52:42.639 --> 00:52:46.280
<v Speaker 1>his shifting explanation for why Emelita was gone. They also

863
00:52:46.360 --> 00:52:49.000
<v Speaker 1>highlighted his camping trip to Lake Whitney the day after

864
00:52:49.119 --> 00:52:53.920
<v Speaker 1>disappearance and his unslicted reference to this location during interviews

865
00:52:55.000 --> 00:52:58.199
<v Speaker 1>His son Randall. Reeves, also testified about being asked to

866
00:52:58.280 --> 00:53:01.519
<v Speaker 1>hide Emlita's cell phone and bolt the disposal of household

867
00:53:01.559 --> 00:53:07.599
<v Speaker 1>items immediately after she vanished. Prosecutors then introduced evidence showing

868
00:53:07.599 --> 00:53:10.639
<v Speaker 1>that Jack began searching for another male order bride within

869
00:53:10.719 --> 00:53:15.199
<v Speaker 1>weeks of Emlita's disappearance. The defense, when it was their turn,

870
00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:20.880
<v Speaker 1>again emphasized the lack of direct evidence. Jack's attorney argued

871
00:53:20.920 --> 00:53:24.199
<v Speaker 1>there were no witnesses, there was no forensic proof tying

872
00:53:24.280 --> 00:53:28.079
<v Speaker 1>him to Emlida's death, and no definitive cause of death.

873
00:53:28.119 --> 00:53:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Even in the end, though it was in the jury's hand,

874
00:53:32.920 --> 00:53:35.800
<v Speaker 1>and after just over an hour of deliberation, they came

875
00:53:35.840 --> 00:53:39.519
<v Speaker 1>back into the courtroom and read their verdict aloud. On

876
00:53:39.559 --> 00:53:44.719
<v Speaker 1>August twentieth, nineteen ninety six, Jack Reeves was found guilty

877
00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:48.639
<v Speaker 1>of murdering Emelda Villo Reeves, and he was sentenced to

878
00:53:48.880 --> 00:53:53.480
<v Speaker 1>ninety nine years in prison. The sentences he received were

879
00:53:53.599 --> 00:53:58.880
<v Speaker 1>ordered to run concurrently. Even after two murder convictions, though

880
00:53:59.239 --> 00:54:03.719
<v Speaker 1>investigators not finished asking questions about Jack Reeves because there

881
00:54:03.760 --> 00:54:07.840
<v Speaker 1>still was another woman now. Unfortunately, the death of Meong Reeves,

882
00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:12.280
<v Speaker 1>his third wife, remained officially classified as an accident. Due

883
00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:15.679
<v Speaker 1>to her cremation the lack of physical evidence, no charges

884
00:54:15.719 --> 00:54:19.760
<v Speaker 1>were ever filed in that case, and ultimately Jack's versions

885
00:54:19.800 --> 00:54:23.679
<v Speaker 1>of events with her drowning still stand as what happened

886
00:54:23.719 --> 00:54:28.800
<v Speaker 1>because it can't be proven otherwise. However, that's not the

887
00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:32.800
<v Speaker 1>additional woman I mean you see. While Emilide was still

888
00:54:32.840 --> 00:54:34.880
<v Speaker 1>living in the Philippines with her younger son in the

889
00:54:34.880 --> 00:54:38.920
<v Speaker 1>early nineteen nineties, Jack well he had been with someone else.

890
00:54:40.360 --> 00:54:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Neighbors in South Arlington recalled a tall, slim woman with

891
00:54:44.679 --> 00:54:47.719
<v Speaker 1>a noticeable accent living in his home for several weeks

892
00:54:47.800 --> 00:54:52.039
<v Speaker 1>or months even, and Jack introduced her to everyone only

893
00:54:52.079 --> 00:54:57.079
<v Speaker 1>as Natalie. According to neighbors, she appeared educated, she spoke

894
00:54:57.119 --> 00:55:01.079
<v Speaker 1>fluent English, and kept mostly to herself. She was seen

895
00:55:01.119 --> 00:55:05.320
<v Speaker 1>walking through the neighborhood and occasionally accompanying Jack. Then, without explanation,

896
00:55:06.639 --> 00:55:10.840
<v Speaker 1>she was gone. When asked about her, Jack told conflicting

897
00:55:10.880 --> 00:55:14.320
<v Speaker 1>stories at different times. He claimed that she had married

898
00:55:14.320 --> 00:55:17.119
<v Speaker 1>another man, moved out of state, or left him willingly

899
00:55:17.159 --> 00:55:21.719
<v Speaker 1>after seeing another man. Detectives noted that these explanations closely

900
00:55:21.800 --> 00:55:25.880
<v Speaker 1>mirrored the same stories Jack told later about Emmalita after

901
00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:30.639
<v Speaker 1>her disappearance. What troubled investigators. Most was not simply that

902
00:55:31.360 --> 00:55:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Natalie was gone, but that Jack could not or would not,

903
00:55:36.079 --> 00:55:39.960
<v Speaker 1>provide a full name, not an address, or verifiable proof

904
00:55:40.039 --> 00:55:44.199
<v Speaker 1>that she was still alive. Police even told Jack's attorney

905
00:55:44.360 --> 00:55:49.400
<v Speaker 1>they would accept a sworn affidavid confirming her identity and whereabouts,

906
00:55:49.519 --> 00:55:52.519
<v Speaker 1>basically you know, saying he wouldn't be convicted. We just

907
00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:56.440
<v Speaker 1>want to make sure she's okay. Well, yeah, rightfully. So, However,

908
00:55:56.519 --> 00:55:59.800
<v Speaker 1>no affidavid was provided. He spoke nothing on it, and

909
00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:04.400
<v Speaker 1>that was that. Unlike Sharon and Emlita, there was nobody.

910
00:56:04.800 --> 00:56:07.639
<v Speaker 1>Unlike Meong, there was no documented incident that tied to

911
00:56:07.639 --> 00:56:10.880
<v Speaker 1>a specific date or location. Without evidence of a crime,

912
00:56:10.960 --> 00:56:14.719
<v Speaker 1>police had no legal ground to pursue charges. She was

913
00:56:14.880 --> 00:56:18.920
<v Speaker 1>just gone and that was that. But yet the pattern

914
00:56:19.000 --> 00:56:23.679
<v Speaker 1>was impossible to ignore. Each woman entered Jack's life under

915
00:56:23.719 --> 00:56:28.320
<v Speaker 1>circumstances that left her isolated. Each relationship became strained as

916
00:56:28.360 --> 00:56:32.320
<v Speaker 1>the woman sought independence or potential escape, and when that

917
00:56:32.400 --> 00:56:39.000
<v Speaker 1>moment came, the woman either died or went missing. For investigators,

918
00:56:39.559 --> 00:56:43.719
<v Speaker 1>Natalie represented a boundary they could not cross. She was

919
00:56:43.760 --> 00:56:46.679
<v Speaker 1>the case that could not be proven, the thread that

920
00:56:46.719 --> 00:56:49.000
<v Speaker 1>could not be pulled any farther as they reached the

921
00:56:49.199 --> 00:56:53.320
<v Speaker 1>end of that reel. Whether she survived Jack or not

922
00:56:53.440 --> 00:56:58.480
<v Speaker 1>remains completely unknown, and ultimately, Jack Wayne Reeves was sent

923
00:56:58.519 --> 00:57:02.480
<v Speaker 1>to prison not because of one investigation, but because investigators

924
00:57:02.559 --> 00:57:07.079
<v Speaker 1>finally took a look backwards. For nearly three decades, each

925
00:57:07.159 --> 00:57:09.840
<v Speaker 1>death in his life had been handled in isolation. A

926
00:57:09.840 --> 00:57:12.599
<v Speaker 1>shooting in Italy that was explained to me as an accident,

927
00:57:12.880 --> 00:57:16.320
<v Speaker 1>a deflecting bullet simply a wife that you know she

928
00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:19.360
<v Speaker 1>died as ruled of suicide, another one that was ruled

929
00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:22.559
<v Speaker 1>an accidental drowning, and then a missing woman assumed to

930
00:57:22.559 --> 00:57:26.679
<v Speaker 1>have just simply run off. Each conclusion made sense on

931
00:57:26.719 --> 00:57:31.239
<v Speaker 1>its own, at least enough to close a file. What

932
00:57:31.519 --> 00:57:34.719
<v Speaker 1>changed in nineteen ninety four wasn't the disappearance of Emily

933
00:57:34.800 --> 00:57:38.000
<v Speaker 1>to Villa Reeves. It was the moment police stopped taking

934
00:57:38.119 --> 00:57:41.800
<v Speaker 1>Jack's word as truth, and stopped treating the case as

935
00:57:41.840 --> 00:57:46.119
<v Speaker 1>a single event, and instead placed it alongside the others

936
00:57:46.360 --> 00:57:50.440
<v Speaker 1>as one as a whole. Once they did this, the

937
00:57:50.480 --> 00:57:53.880
<v Speaker 1>timeline began to tell a different story, one that did

938
00:57:53.880 --> 00:57:58.760
<v Speaker 1>not rely on speculation, but on documented patterns, forensic re analysis,

939
00:57:58.880 --> 00:58:03.800
<v Speaker 1>and sworn testimony. The justice system resolved what it could

940
00:58:04.400 --> 00:58:07.360
<v Speaker 1>Sharon Reeves's death was no longer a suicide, a jury

941
00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:10.360
<v Speaker 1>ruled it murder, and Malita Reeves did not run away.

942
00:58:10.480 --> 00:58:13.239
<v Speaker 1>A jury ruled that she was killed. But the system

943
00:58:13.320 --> 00:58:18.039
<v Speaker 1>could not resolve everything. Meyong Reeves's death remains officially accidental,

944
00:58:18.119 --> 00:58:21.119
<v Speaker 1>sealed by cremation in time, the woman known as Natalie

945
00:58:21.199 --> 00:58:24.280
<v Speaker 1>remains unaccounted for, and the full truth to what happened

946
00:58:24.280 --> 00:58:27.199
<v Speaker 1>inside Jack's home may never be known beyond what evidence

947
00:58:27.239 --> 00:58:32.840
<v Speaker 1>has survived for investigators like Tom Lenore, the case well,

948
00:58:32.920 --> 00:58:36.960
<v Speaker 1>it's not about labels like serial killers or monsters. It's

949
00:58:37.000 --> 00:58:41.400
<v Speaker 1>about correcting the record, about acknowledging that earlier answers had

950
00:58:41.440 --> 00:58:44.199
<v Speaker 1>been wrong, and that those mistakes had allowed a man

951
00:58:44.320 --> 00:58:48.599
<v Speaker 1>to keep moving forward. Jack, as it stands, is now

952
00:58:48.639 --> 00:58:52.519
<v Speaker 1>an aging inmate housed in the Texas prison system, with

953
00:58:52.599 --> 00:58:56.199
<v Speaker 1>his appeals completely exhausted, and he has continued to maintain

954
00:58:56.239 --> 00:59:00.960
<v Speaker 1>his innocence even as courts upheld both convictions. The women

955
00:59:01.000 --> 00:59:02.519
<v Speaker 1>at the center of this story do not get the

956
00:59:02.559 --> 00:59:05.880
<v Speaker 1>luxury of growing old as he does. Their lives are

957
00:59:05.880 --> 00:59:08.000
<v Speaker 1>frozen at the very moment that they tried to leave.

958
00:59:09.119 --> 00:59:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Their names are now linked, not by coincidence but by

959
00:59:12.559 --> 00:59:17.199
<v Speaker 1>evidence and a heartless human being. Their stories are forever

960
00:59:17.239 --> 00:59:22.159
<v Speaker 1>connected now too. Once they were dismissed, misread, or even ignored,

961
00:59:22.199 --> 00:59:26.199
<v Speaker 1>but now now they have finally been heard, just late

962
00:59:26.320 --> 00:59:29.440
<v Speaker 1>enough to change the ending, but not early enough to

963
00:59:29.519 --> 00:59:32.639
<v Speaker 1>save them or even understand the full extent of the truth.

964
00:59:34.400 --> 00:59:37.760
<v Speaker 1>That is where this case ends. Solved, but not fully.

965
00:59:39.239 --> 00:59:43.119
<v Speaker 1>Jack is responsible for three deaths in total, with two

966
00:59:43.199 --> 00:59:47.000
<v Speaker 1>more that could potentially be added to his list. He is,

967
00:59:47.039 --> 00:59:50.079
<v Speaker 1>in every sense of the word, a monster. But still,

968
00:59:51.079 --> 00:59:52.960
<v Speaker 1>if you've listened to our show before, you know we

969
00:59:53.000 --> 00:59:56.239
<v Speaker 1>do not like to give someone like him notoriety. Yes

970
00:59:56.280 --> 00:59:59.719
<v Speaker 1>we are talking about him, but in this case, I

971
00:59:59.760 --> 01:00:01.679
<v Speaker 1>think we need to give a final mention to the

972
01:00:01.719 --> 01:00:05.760
<v Speaker 1>investigators who did their due diligence in the end, after

973
01:00:05.960 --> 01:00:09.760
<v Speaker 1>years of failed police work, they stepped in and they

974
01:00:09.760 --> 01:00:13.880
<v Speaker 1>did what was right, not for themselves but for the victims,

975
01:00:14.480 --> 01:00:17.360
<v Speaker 1>victims who were never heard in the first place. It's

976
01:00:17.400 --> 01:00:20.159
<v Speaker 1>because of these investigators the truth was found and no

977
01:00:20.199 --> 01:00:23.719
<v Speaker 1>one else was hurt. So to people like Detective Tom

978
01:00:23.800 --> 01:00:27.760
<v Speaker 1>lenore On behalf of those whose stories you help resolve,

979
01:00:28.079 --> 01:00:30.679
<v Speaker 1>and people like us who see the good work you do,

980
01:00:32.079 --> 01:00:38.119
<v Speaker 1>thank you. And that's the story of Jack Wayne Reeves.

981
01:00:38.760 --> 01:00:44.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, fuck that guy. Hey, yeah, I do. Okay, something

982
01:00:44.159 --> 01:00:45.519
<v Speaker 2>I just want to say, and I want to hear

983
01:00:45.599 --> 01:00:49.400
<v Speaker 2>your thoughts. So say, if it's Emilita, right, that's how

984
01:00:49.400 --> 01:00:52.800
<v Speaker 2>you say her name. Yes, say her body was found

985
01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:56.679
<v Speaker 2>like right away, and it was a suicide or like

986
01:00:57.079 --> 01:00:58.719
<v Speaker 2>an accident type looking thing.

987
01:00:59.000 --> 01:00:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

988
01:00:59.559 --> 01:01:02.480
<v Speaker 2>Do you think that he would have gotten away with

989
01:01:02.519 --> 01:01:07.360
<v Speaker 2>this again or would it at this point like no,

990
01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:08.239
<v Speaker 2>it's all caught.

991
01:01:08.079 --> 01:01:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Up to him. No, it would have still caught up

992
01:01:09.480 --> 01:01:10.360
<v Speaker 1>with him, I think.

993
01:01:11.719 --> 01:01:14.719
<v Speaker 2>Because this investigator was good and they and they took

994
01:01:14.760 --> 01:01:17.559
<v Speaker 2>the time to like thoroughly look through things. But if

995
01:01:17.559 --> 01:01:19.480
<v Speaker 2>she wasn't missing, would.

996
01:01:19.199 --> 01:01:22.559
<v Speaker 1>They have you know, well, if she wasn't missing, she

997
01:01:22.679 --> 01:01:23.960
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have been dead.

998
01:01:24.639 --> 01:01:26.239
<v Speaker 2>Well her body wasn't missing.

999
01:01:26.280 --> 01:01:29.559
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, okay, well no like being missing in her body missing.

1000
01:01:29.639 --> 01:01:31.039
<v Speaker 1>To me, those are the two in the same. But

1001
01:01:31.079 --> 01:01:35.199
<v Speaker 1>I think regardless of whether she was found suicide or

1002
01:01:35.280 --> 01:01:39.000
<v Speaker 1>accidental or murder, I think that's that's beside the point.

1003
01:01:39.039 --> 01:01:41.639
<v Speaker 1>The point is more so the pattern and the people

1004
01:01:41.639 --> 01:01:44.320
<v Speaker 1>who actually spoke up on her behalf, not only the

1005
01:01:44.360 --> 01:01:47.320
<v Speaker 1>detectives but also the friends who said if something happens

1006
01:01:47.320 --> 01:01:50.880
<v Speaker 1>to her she's missing. She told us there's a problem, okay,

1007
01:01:50.920 --> 01:01:53.440
<v Speaker 1>which triggers investigators to look deeper.

1008
01:01:53.679 --> 01:01:57.000
<v Speaker 2>So that for sure, the friends alone would have stirred

1009
01:01:57.039 --> 01:01:57.599
<v Speaker 2>something up.

1010
01:01:57.800 --> 01:02:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Definitely. So even if it was, hey, another suicide situation

1011
01:02:01.519 --> 01:02:04.280
<v Speaker 1>where she may have shot herself, I guarantee you they

1012
01:02:04.280 --> 01:02:06.559
<v Speaker 1>would have looked deeper. They would have looked into it,

1013
01:02:06.840 --> 01:02:09.039
<v Speaker 1>and I am almost certain they would have stopped him

1014
01:02:09.039 --> 01:02:12.119
<v Speaker 1>because they probably would have had more evidence anything that

1015
01:02:12.159 --> 01:02:14.960
<v Speaker 1>they looked on. On these ones, they didn't have much evidence.

1016
01:02:15.199 --> 01:02:18.239
<v Speaker 1>Old cases with missing evidence, this one where a body

1017
01:02:18.400 --> 01:02:21.480
<v Speaker 1>was decomposed to such an extent that they couldn't do

1018
01:02:21.519 --> 01:02:24.920
<v Speaker 1>a proper autopsy. If they had a body with like

1019
01:02:24.960 --> 01:02:28.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's an accident, it's a suicide, same sort

1020
01:02:28.079 --> 01:02:30.960
<v Speaker 1>of thing, you can perform that autopsy. Now you can

1021
01:02:31.000 --> 01:02:33.760
<v Speaker 1>do the proper things on angles with a gun and

1022
01:02:34.280 --> 01:02:36.719
<v Speaker 1>see that sort of stuff. They would have figured it out.

1023
01:02:36.760 --> 01:02:38.599
<v Speaker 1>In fact, I think it would have been easier for

1024
01:02:38.639 --> 01:02:39.480
<v Speaker 1>them to figure it out.

1025
01:02:39.760 --> 01:02:42.840
<v Speaker 2>Okay, this guy is just such a piece of shit

1026
01:02:42.920 --> 01:02:47.360
<v Speaker 2>because he, in all these relationships, just treated these women terribly.

1027
01:02:47.719 --> 01:02:48.960
<v Speaker 1>They're disposable to him.

1028
01:02:49.159 --> 01:02:51.800
<v Speaker 2>Is like surprising to him that they want to leave,

1029
01:02:52.280 --> 01:02:54.920
<v Speaker 2>right and he does. He basically he just doesn't allow it,

1030
01:02:55.400 --> 01:02:58.480
<v Speaker 2>which is just such a fucking asshole.

1031
01:02:58.719 --> 01:03:00.639
<v Speaker 1>And to him, it's almost like he's just going to

1032
01:03:00.679 --> 01:03:02.960
<v Speaker 1>a vending machine, just getting the next one, you know,

1033
01:03:03.559 --> 01:03:06.159
<v Speaker 1>just like this male order system. Okay, well this one

1034
01:03:06.159 --> 01:03:08.559
<v Speaker 1>didn't work out, I'm going to just throw it away

1035
01:03:08.719 --> 01:03:10.760
<v Speaker 1>and on to the next that's fucked up.

1036
01:03:10.960 --> 01:03:14.079
<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, and like in Emilita's case, she was doing

1037
01:03:14.280 --> 01:03:16.679
<v Speaker 2>she didn't love him, she was just literally doing this

1038
01:03:16.800 --> 01:03:20.519
<v Speaker 2>to support her family. Well now he's in poverty, right, I.

1039
01:03:20.440 --> 01:03:25.079
<v Speaker 1>Think that's basically the what male order systems rely on.

1040
01:03:25.360 --> 01:03:27.599
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, I don't know. Maybe there's an odd

1041
01:03:27.679 --> 01:03:28.559
<v Speaker 2>case where.

1042
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<v Speaker 1>They actually are looking for love.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't who knows, And don't marry a complete piece

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<v Speaker 2>of this jack guy?

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<v Speaker 1>Well no, okay, let me back up my statement. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying that the situations are all someone marrying someone

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<v Speaker 1>because they have to and their relationship sucks. I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>the male order system relies on women signing up because

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<v Speaker 1>they're looking for a better life, whether it's poverty, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's you know, a third world country, whether it's medical things.

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<v Speaker 1>They're reaching out saying this is my last Yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>do believe there are good relationships that can happen from

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<v Speaker 1>mail order bride. I'm not advocating for it, but I

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<v Speaker 1>am saying that. I'm sure some of those women find

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<v Speaker 1>good men too. Oh yeah, it's just not a good

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<v Speaker 1>way of going about it. Well, yeah, to them, it's

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<v Speaker 1>their only option.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, based on love per se.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So I'm not judging the women in the situation.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm judging the system that takes advantage of those women.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, And I guess you could just hope that

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<v Speaker 2>you don't end up with someone like freakin' Jack.

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<v Speaker 1>Reeves, right, what a complete douche Canoe.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we don't like him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's done.

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<v Speaker 2>He's garbage.

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck you, Jack, that's all you gotta say. But not

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<v Speaker 1>you guys. You guys are cool. Thank you for being here.

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<v Speaker 1>We totally appreciate you. If you want to take out

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<v Speaker 1>the or take a look at the description of our podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>we got some more stuff, website, socials, all that good things.

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<v Speaker 1>We are an independently host owned, researched podcast. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>big team, Nicole and are the ones doing it. We

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<v Speaker 1>are the ones who operate this. There's no one pulling

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<v Speaker 1>our strengths and telling us what to do, how to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. We just want to tell you good stories.

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<v Speaker 1>We want to make sure we focus on victims when

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<v Speaker 1>we can, and we honestly are so thankful you're here

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<v Speaker 1>supporting us, listening to our show because it means the world.

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you, and until next

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<v Speaker 2>Time, stay wicked.
