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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to another Surely you Can't Be

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Serious podcast with my buddy Jason Colvin and d Graves.

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Speaker 2: They call us.

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Speaker 3: All right. D you know when you were a baby

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your crib.

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Speaker 4: Your father looked down on you, and he had but

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one hope someday my son will grow to be a man.

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Speaker 3: Well look at you now.

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Speaker 4: You're a host of the Shirley you Can't Be Serious podcast.

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I'm sure your dad's very proud of that.

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Speaker 3: Actually, that is great. Welcome back to the Sure That

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you Can't Be Serious podcast. Everybody, It's pledged week.

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Speaker 4: I don't know who I'm gonna pledge with this week.

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I've been bouncing around the fraternitys.

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Speaker 3: Were you ever actually a member of a fraternity? I was?

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Speaker 5: Not?

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Speaker 3: Me neither. Now I well, okay, now I take that back.

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When I was in law school, the Phi Delta Phi

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fraternity had ceased to exist at my law school, and

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so I was like, hey, we should bring this thing back.

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And so I called the national chapter and they're like, hey,

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is the guy who's bringing it back. You get to

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decide what the guidelines are and you'll be the president.

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And I was like resume. Yeah, so so yeah, I

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brought the Phire Delta five back to the University of

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Oklahoma Law School, and then I discovered that when you

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have a fraternity, you can go ask for funding and

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if you spend all of your money, they'll give you

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more money the next year. This was a really great

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discovery for me, and as as a I've never heard

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the story soon to be Yeah, no, I brought it

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back and then I was like, and so, I don't

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know how I got the info, probably from the Phi

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Delta Phi guy, you know, the national chapter, saying now, yeah,

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just go ask for some funding from the student services

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or whatever. And I went over and asked, and they

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gave me money. And so I recruited all of the

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new fraternity members at the law school with basically big

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sandwich parties that we would have at lunch when everybody

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was in between classes. Wow. And so yeah, built the

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fraternity back by myself.

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Speaker 4: I have never known that story before.

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Speaker 3: I honestly, just as I was thinking as I asked

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you the question, I'm like, oh, I've never been a minute.

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Oh wait a minute, yeah I have.

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Speaker 4: But I was the president of the fraternity right.

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Speaker 3: Right, And it wasn't exactly the same We didn't have

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a house. There wasn't beer drinking it was. It was

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a much different type of fraternity.

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Speaker 4: It didn't take swimming lessons and kiddie pools full of beer.

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Speaker 3: Now, I will say this as an undergrad and a

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theater major. I was only a theater major for about

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six months before me and about five other guys all

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realized that if we just rented a big house, we

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would cut our rent payments in half. Right, And so

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then we now have six drama guys all in the

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same large house. It became the party house of the

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department for sure. I didn't see that the Blue House

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is what it was called, because well it was blue.

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I do have a quick story for you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was not in a fraternity, but I did

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work as a houseboy at a sorority house. Okay, I

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was a houseboy at the Tridelt House.

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Speaker 3: Oh houseboy. And here's the kicker.

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Speaker 2: They didn't pay me.

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Speaker 4: I worked for food that's pretty good, and I got

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to look at pretty girls.

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Speaker 3: That's really good. And that's that's the that's it. Yeah,

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that's it. Tride Old House. Did you know? Did you

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know that? Did you know your wife your future wife

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at the moment at that point, how does she feel

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about that she didn't care a way to go? Yeah, okay, well,

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let me let me tell you about another fraternity guy. Okay,

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ready for this story? Okay, okay, So I'll tell you

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about Ted. Ted was born in nineteen oh four. Okay.

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He ended up going to Dartmouth College, where he was

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in a fraternity. He was a Sigma Phi epsilon. But

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he went to college in the nineteen twenties and as

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you know, in the nineteen twenties in the United States,

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we had this little thing called prohibition. Well, while he

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was there at Dartmouth, he became the editor in chief

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of the jack O Lantern magazine that they have there, okay,

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which is, you know, touches on our National lampoon story

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that we're going to tell a bit later on Animal House.

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But he had gotten this, you know, gotten this position,

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which was pretty good for a young guy. And he

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was in this fraternity. But then he gets caught drinking

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gin with nine of his fraternity brothers in his room.

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for them to have gin. Sure, and so as a result,

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his dean, Dean Craven Laycock insisted, I'm not kidding. That

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is his real life. Dean Craven Laycock insisted that he

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resign from all of his extracurricular activities, including his job

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as editor in chief of this magazine. Now he was

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going to he was going to go get his PhD

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and become an English professor. So this is a big

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hit for him. So what he did was he quit

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using his own name and he adopted a pen name. Now,

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ultimately he went to Oxford and was pursued doing his PhD.

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she's like, you need to be an illustrator. You're really

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good that you don't need to go be an English professor.

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be an illustrator. And so in nineteen thirty nine he

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produced his first book after dropping out of Oxford, produced

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his first book and it was pretty well received, and

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so then he produces a few more books. World War

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of the Army, and then he goes back to writing

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books again once the war is over, and in nineteen

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fifty under this pen name that he used to dodge

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the rules. Back when he is at Dartmouth College, he

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wrote a book called If I Ran the Zoo. By

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the way, the pen name that he used was Seuss,

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which when he dropped out of the PhD program, he

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added doctor to his zeus. And it's in that book

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If I Ran the Zoo that we see the very

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first appearance of the word nerd. Oh, excellent, I believe

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his name.

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Speaker 4: His real name was Theodore Geisel.

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Speaker 3: That is correct. Yes, And then just to show them,

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I'll sail to Katrue and bring back an itchcutch, a

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preep and a prue, a nirkle, a nerd, and a

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cedar sucker too. First appearance of the word nerd comes

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from doctor Seuss. It was about a year later that

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they used it in a magazine a Washington Post or

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New York Times or something like that, where it kind

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of had this meaning of a weirdo. And then in

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the nineteen seventies it becomes very prevalent, largely due to

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a TV show called Happy Days, Happy Days, where they

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use the word all the time to refer to the

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you know, geeky or smarter members of the cast. Interesting, now,

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who else is a part of the cast of Happy Days.

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It's sure Ted mcgilney, who is stan Stan the man

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Speaker 4: How about that? There you go, that's incredible.

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Speaker 3: Good job, well done, thanks, ma'am. Okay, So we're.

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Speaker 4: Here today to discuss two movies, Animal House from nineteen

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seventy eight and Revenge of the Nerds from nineteen eighty four.

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Revenge of the Nerds is hitting its fortieth anniversary this year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you and I talked. Revenge of the Nerds is

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essentially it is a redo of Animal House. It is.

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It's a little different group of folks. It's the scumbags

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versus the elites, right, just a little different twist on

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the on the fraternity story.

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Speaker 4: The slobs versus the snobs.

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Speaker 3: Yes, there you go. And then later on we'd have

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old school where they would do it again where it

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was like guys our age going back to college. Who

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were the And then I started thinking about it. Have

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you seen pitch Perfect? Pitch Perfect is kind of the

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female version of this where instead of it being a fraternity,

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it's an a cappella group. But again, it's the Cinderella story,

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it's the downcast being triumphant, and if you love Rocky,

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that means you gotta love these kind of movies. Definitely

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the underdog story for sure, for sure.

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Speaker 4: Okay, cool, Well, let's talk in revisionist history. Some people

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look back on these movies and have problems with certain aspects.

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And you came up with this wonderful list of felonies

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that could be could you know, you could say we're

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committed in these two movies, and I feel like we

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need to talk about those right out of the gate.

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Speaker 3: Well, let me just say that I didn't even I

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didn't even go with anim This is just, this is just,

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this is all revenge of the Nerds, and I can

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say that these crimes are either committed or strongly suggested.

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You guys ready, and we're starting with ogre holding the

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guy from his ankles. Okay, all right, attempted murder, attempted

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statutory rape, taking, clandestine videos, sexual exploitation of a minor,

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captured sale, clandestine photos, breaking an entering, sexual battery, theft,

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used of chemical weapons, insurance fraud, bestiality, cruelty to animals,

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destruction of property, and of course, possession of controlled substances.

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and entering is also probably a misdemeanor. But then if

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you consider that they committed felonies after they broke an inner,

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that amps it up to a bird one.

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Speaker 4: That doesn't even consider Mowbray, which didn't make the list.

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Speaker 3: What is moperry Pury.

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Speaker 4: Is exposing yourself to a blind person, which they actually

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discussed in the movie Mowbray.

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Speaker 3: Yep, I missed that day a law school. I don't

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know what this world is coming to see that man

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over there. We arrested him for mowpery. What's Mowbury? Mowbray

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Speaker 4: All right, Well, let's let's dive into animal House first,

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because that is the that's the father of Revenge of

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the Nerds.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. So we talked a little bit about this a

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on several occasions, we've done several of John Landis's movies,

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and then also we've talked about Airplane, and we've talked

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about Caddyshack, and these stories all kind of overlap, but

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a magazine that they had at Harvard. Yes, who then

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went out after college and all they really wanted to

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the Harvard Lampoon into the National Lampoon. Yes. So I

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want to talk about John Lennce for just a second,

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even though we've covered him several times.

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Speaker 4: We talked about him on the American Werewolf in London

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podcast that we did, We talked about him in Beverly

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Hills Cop three. Listen to this list of movies that

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he has made, and then he hits an absolute crushing wall.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so I find it fascinating.

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Speaker 4: So he starts off with Schlock, which is kind of

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this independent movie that he makes.

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Speaker 3: It's where he meets Rick Baker for the first time.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, it's hugely impactful. Then he does Kentucky Fried movie

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in nineteen seventy seven. He does Animal House in nineteen

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seventy eight, which blows the doors off. He does The

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Blues Brothers, which is regarded by some one of the

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funniest movies in the nineteen eighties, he does American Werewolf

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in London, some regard as the greatest horror comedy movie

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of all time. He does Trading Places, which we talked about.

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He does twilight Zone, which is on the slate for

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this year.

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Speaker 3: Infamous, Infamous.

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Speaker 4: He does the Thriller video with Michael Jackson, the greatest

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music video of all time, arguably. He does Spies like us.

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He does Three Amigos. He does a personal favorite of mine, Amazon,

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Women on the Moon. He does Coming to America, which

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you said is one of the funniest movies of all time.

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Speaker 3: Yep. And then he hits a crushing wall. Yeah. I mean,

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just for clarification, that wasn't a highlight reel. That was

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every movie he directs, right, It's one after another, one

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after another. There were no bombs in any of that.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 4: Then he does Oscar with Sylvester Stallone, which is mad.

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Most people were like, what is this crap?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: He does a movie called Innocent Blood, which I've heard

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to here on this podcast, without question, even including all

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the what the heck happy movies we've covered absolutely, and

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went away. I still have confidence in him. I feel

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like someday he's making a comeback with that list. Yeah,

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somebody's got a hiring right at some point.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, So let's talk just basically about the origin

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of Animal House.

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he was the editor in chief of Lampoo magazine.

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Speaker 4: It's super like white Hot with all the college students.

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I did it. Now I want to quit. But his friends,

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like this group of guys, they convince him, look, we

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need to evolve from the magazine to movies. So Ivan

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Rightman is one of his buddies.

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is really a fantastic history, by the way, including his

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work on Cannibal Girls. Go check out the film by

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podcast that we did when we covered Ghostbusters too with

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Jeff Johnson. I really was impressed with Ivan Rightman story.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So Doug Kenny sits down with Harold Ramis. Harold

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Ramis egon from Ghostbusters. He's been in stripes, but he's

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a comedy writer and a funny actor. So they sit

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Laser Orgie Girls, And it's about Charles Manson in high school.

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Speaker 4: Smith right, And so Ivan Raymen's like, listen, guys, this

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is not it right, you can't make this. Solet's let's

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take it from high school.

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Speaker 3: Let's move it to college.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So they bring on comedy writer Chris Miller. Okay, yeah,

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he had been he had written articles for National Lampoon.

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and they're like, Okay, we're gonna write a college movie.

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Speaker 3: And I thought this was brilliant.

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Speaker 4: They sat around and for like days, all they did

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was spill every single college anecdote they could possibly think.

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Speaker 3: Of anything that they did which was.

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they just kind of kept notes. So Chris Miller had

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been in a fraternity, and so he brought all of

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his fraternity stories. So in Chris Miller's fraternity, there actually

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a guy whose nickname was Flounder.

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Speaker 2: Now on.

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Speaker 1: His name is.

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Speaker 3: Flounder, okay.

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it's great.

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Speaker 3: There was a guy named Bluto.

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Speaker 4: And the reason why he was Blueto is because he

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had muscular arms.

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blue TASKI that's it. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So they each decided, okay, well, we're going to turn

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this into like Chris Miller's fraternity movie. And after coming

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up with all these stories, each one of them wrote

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like an act of the screenplay. So one guy was

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designated to write Act one. One guy was designated to

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write Act two. One guy was designated to write Act three,

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and then when they were done, they would pass it

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then once that was done, then they passed it to

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the third guy. So each person worked on each one

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of the acts. But it's kind of like a choose

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your own adventure type of setup, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought that was brilliant. That's great.

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Speaker 4: They just did the best they can. They came up

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with what they thought would work.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody wanted it, but Ivan Rightman wanted to direct.

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had only like I think he'd work on a David

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Cronenberg movie, right, as like an assistant or something, and

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you're not not enough experience, right, And then Harold Ramis

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had done nothing at that point. He was pretty Cadyshack.

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He was an English teacher and a guy who worked

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at a psych word like that, I mean, And he

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then wrote articles for Playboy magazine like really, we're not

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gonna let you know, We're not gonna let you direct studie. Yeah, no,

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you may not. Right well, John Landis had yeah, two movies.

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was essentially like a precursor run at at the Airplane movie,

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which are, you know, greatest comedy of the eighties. Yeah,

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that's right.

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Speaker 4: So here's the deal. The script lands at Universal. Nobody

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gets it, nobody understands it, nobody wants it. In fact,

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they're like, why would we cheer for these guys who

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are disgusting p I. G.

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Speaker 3: Piggs.

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Speaker 4: Right, But there's two guys at Universal, a guy named

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Tom Mount and a guy named Sean Daniel, and they're

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huge fans of the National Lampoon magazine.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and here's the interesting thing.

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Speaker 4: They call Mattie Simmons. Now, Mattie Simmons has been involved

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in a lot of these comedy movies.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Matti Simmons the first person to use a credit card.

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Go back to our Christmas Vacation episode to hear that story.

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That's incredible. Right.

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Speaker 4: So Tom Mount and Sean Daniel, like in an unrelated conversation,

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they call Mattie Simmons and say, we love National Lampoon Magazine.

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Speaker 3: If you ever have anything.

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Speaker 4: That's National Lampoon related that you want to get made

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into a movie just and like, before they can even

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get it out, Mattie Simmons says, wait, wait, wait, wait,

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I've got something.

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Speaker 3: It's called Animal House. You know you make me won nice.

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Speaker 4: So when Universal agrees to greenlight this movie, they come

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back to Mattie Simmons and they say, all right, listen,

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we'll do this movie if you can do it for

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three million dollars or less, and so Matty Simmons says,

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of course, yeah, absolutely we can. Mattie Simmons says, I

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had no idea I had even I didn't even have

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a frame of reference. I didn't know whether movies cost

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a million, two million, thirty million, fifty million. He's like,

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I had no idea that they said three million dollars

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and I leapt at it and I said, yes, no problem.

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Speaker 3: Part of I don't want to step into the casting

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part of things too much, but I don't think this

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is going to be an issue. But part of the

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problem was all of these guys were unknown actors at

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the time except for John Belushi, and so what they

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needed was someone who was a star to be in

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the movie to draw them in. And they thought, well, nobody,

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we can't get anybody who can't find anybody. But as

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it turned out, John Landis had worked with Donald Sutherland

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on Kelly's Heroes. Remember when he went to Europe, It's

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where he was inspired to write the story of American

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Werewolf in London. That's right. He was working on Kelly's

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Heroes and worked with Donald Sutherland. And Donald Sutherland was

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nearby making another movie and John and just just basically

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called him up and said, hey, I got this part.

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He's like, you can shoot it on the weekend. It's

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going to be super easy. But we've got to have

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somebody who's a name. And I've heard two different stories

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on this on what he got paid, but one of

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this is the one from Donald Sutherland's mouth. Yes, he

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comes in and he's like, okay, I'll just you know,

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I'll help these guys out. I'll be in for a

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couple of days in and out, and he says, and

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so I do things to lighten the mood in this movie,

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like doing a scene with my pants off, and then

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he left it in the movie like he's already angry,

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and and he says, and then when we started talking

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about what I was going to get paid, they were

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offering me points on it. He said, they offered me

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something like six points on this movie. And all I

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can think to myself is this movie is not going

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to make any money. You guys just need to pay

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me the studio standard salary that I get. And that's it.

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Worst financial decision I ever made.

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Speaker 4: Those points would have amassed to about what four or

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five million.

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Speaker 3: Bucks some some amount of millions?

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Speaker 6: Yessh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: John Lennis at one point was Keiver Solan's babysitter.

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Speaker 3: Wow. Right, And so it's kind of a family friend.

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Speaker 4: Also, John Landis was like childhood friends with Elmer Bernstein's son. Yeah,

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and so you know, John Landis has got Donald Sutherland

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as a friend and Elmer Bernstein as a friend. He

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called him up and asked the Elmer Bernstein to score

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this movie.

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Speaker 3: Now, just for those of you who haven't listened to

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every single episode that we've had, we talked about this

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in year one of the Shirley You Can't Be Serious podcast.

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a movie you might have heard of that he composed

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the music for, called the Ten Commandments. He was not

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he did, I mean, he composed the Great Escape, The

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Great Escape, the National geographic music like that's their theme

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song was created by him. He was he was in

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the class with John Williams and Jerry Goldsmith. I mean,

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he was a big guy, but he was producing these

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kind of large, epic scores and this is a freaking

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college fraternity movie. Well, as it turns out, he's still

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composed this kind of epic pomp and circumstance music and

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it works so well because it's this weird like You've

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got all of this sophistication to your music while these

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guys are popping their potatoes out of their mouth, like

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is it that's it? Okay? So, in watching Revenge of

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the Nerds, you don't have a particularly big director, and

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none of the guys who are in it in are

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big stars at the time. Obviously, John Goodman goes on

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to become a big star, Anthony Edwards goes on to

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become a big star, but they weren't doing anything particularly big,

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Like Anthony Edwards had done Fast Times, a Ridgema High

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at this point and not much else. High School USA. Yeah,

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and I can't believe you brought up high school.

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Speaker 4: Hey, listen to the cast of High School USA.

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Speaker 2: Michael J.

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Speaker 4: Fox, Dana Plato, Todd Bridges, Crisp and Glover, Anthony Edwards.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, don't forget Gilligan.

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Speaker 4: The Skipper Beaver Don Wells is in that movie.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy. Yeah, So anyway, you don't and you don't

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have a particularly big name director associated with this movie.

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So I'm this and I'm thinking to myself, how did

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this movie? Like, how did this movie really get made?

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look at who the producers were. So one of the

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producers is a guy named Ted Field, and he is

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the air and descendant of a guy named Marshall Field,

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which may mean nothing to you, but if you were

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from Chicago, you probably know that name. By the time

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that Ted was born in nineteen fifty three, his dad

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owned the Chicago Sun Times, Okay, and so, you know,

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not too shabby. His mom and dad ended up getting divorced.

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His mom marries another guy. They move up to Anchorage, Alaska,

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and that guy buys the the Anchorage Daily News. Okay,

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So he's in that class of folks that don't know

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what not enough money means, right, right, And so he

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goes on to college and he I mean I would

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just this life is so interesting. He starts this thing

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called Innerscope Racing, where they are doing Formula five thousand racing,

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and he is he is having guys enter the Indy

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five hundred and they're making engines for these cars using

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Portion nine thirty five engines. It's just it's this cool

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little thing. And then just in nineteen eighty two, just

469
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a few years later, he just thinks, yeah, Okay, I've

470
00:23:21,279 --> 00:23:23,720
had enough car racing. I think I'm gonna go start

471
00:23:23,759 --> 00:23:27,000
a communications company, which means a film production company. Right,

472
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:32,640
So in nineteen eighty two he founded Interscope Communications, which

473
00:23:32,799 --> 00:23:37,079
goes on to produce fifty major films. But nineteen eighty four,

474
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their first big success is a movie called Revenge of

475
00:23:41,039 --> 00:23:42,920
the Nerds. All right, very good.

476
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Speaker 4: There was an article in an LA magazine titled Revenge

477
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,599
of the Nerds, and it describes computer programmers that had

478
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,680
been working in Silicon Valley and all of a sudden,

479
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,440
these guys are innovative, They're making money. These geeky guys

480
00:23:58,799 --> 00:24:00,680
are now like six usful guys.

481
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 3: I mean, for people who were born after the dot

482
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:08,400
com bust, you really have no idea the difference in

483
00:24:08,519 --> 00:24:12,359
class that guys who were rejected and made fun of

484
00:24:13,079 --> 00:24:15,680
from when we were kids. Like if it was the

485
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eighties and you got called a nerd, that was the worst.

486
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You didn't want that, you didn't And then all of

487
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:35,519
the nerds became super rich because computers became a thing.

488
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:41,839
So you've got Steve Wozniak, total nerd, multi billionaire, Bill

489
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:47,519
Gates a billionaire, all nerds. And so yeah, this this

490
00:24:47,839 --> 00:24:51,279
unique little story that just I mean, nineteen eighty four

491
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,680
hits at the perfect time where the nerd class is growing.

492
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They feel the bullying power that is that is upon them,

493
00:25:00,079 --> 00:25:03,000
and this is their this is their revenge moment, This

494
00:25:03,079 --> 00:25:06,160
is their Cinderella moment. This is there, these are their

495
00:25:06,279 --> 00:25:07,519
rocky and you know, you.

496
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,839
Speaker 4: Think about it, in nineteen eighty four, that's still like

497
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:15,400
really pretty early in the computer phenomenon, right, right, you

498
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,960
watch this movie. They're operating computers with no mouse, right,

499
00:25:19,079 --> 00:25:21,759
you know, right, And so computers are a new thing.

500
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The people who have the knowledge to operate them, it's

501
00:25:25,039 --> 00:25:27,680
kind of a new talent, a new skill. Yeah, so

502
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,799
it's not like everyday America where everybody knows how to

503
00:25:31,839 --> 00:25:32,880
operate a computer.

504
00:25:32,799 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 3: Right, well, and we didn't really talk about it with

505
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,119
Animal House, but there was a little trouble once they

506
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,079
had gotten the funding for this, there's a little trouble

507
00:25:42,279 --> 00:25:45,279
getting a college to agree to allow them onto the

508
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campus to produce. And so Animal House I believe was

509
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,240
produced at the University of Oregon. Is a University of Oregon,

510
00:25:53,319 --> 00:25:56,079
that's right, And I think the I think they had

511
00:25:56,079 --> 00:26:00,480
been rejected by most every other university, but the University

512
00:26:00,519 --> 00:26:04,279
of Oregon had also rejected the graduate that's it.

513
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 4: And because I'm not sure it was the University of Oregon,

514
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:10,880
it was one of the people who worked at the

515
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,319
University of Oregon. Oh, Okay, I think it was at

516
00:26:13,319 --> 00:26:15,920
a different college. Okay, I may be wrong on that.

517
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Speaker 3: Well, whoever it was, they said, listen, this was a

518
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,279
bad call the last time we did this back in

519
00:26:22,319 --> 00:26:25,720
nineteen sixty eight, ten years later, let's make the right

520
00:26:25,759 --> 00:26:28,039
call and let these guys do it now. Of course,

521
00:26:28,079 --> 00:26:31,079
they weren't too happy with how things were going. Basically,

522
00:26:31,559 --> 00:26:35,640
these actors came in and some of them are older

523
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,359
than college kids, but they're pretty close, right. They are

524
00:26:38,519 --> 00:26:41,480
unlike Revenge of the Nerds, but where the guys are

525
00:26:41,519 --> 00:26:45,640
thirty but Anyway, they come in and they start partying

526
00:26:45,759 --> 00:26:48,640
with a lot of these college kids, and at some

527
00:26:48,799 --> 00:26:52,839
point there's a literal fight that breaks out between the

528
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,640
fraternity members and the guys play the actors playing the

529
00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:01,720
fraternity members. That is a full on buckle face brawl.

530
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 4: Okay, this is a great story. I don't want to

531
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,960
skip over this. So Tim Matheson who played Arter, you know,

532
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,160
Peter Raggert who plays Boone, Karen Allen who plays Katie,

533
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,599
she's there. The guy who plays Hoover, he's there, the

534
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,640
guy who plays d Day. They're all at this party

535
00:27:14,759 --> 00:27:18,039
and Tim Matheson is like hitting on all these guys girlfriends.

536
00:27:18,079 --> 00:27:21,519
He's being Arter at this party, and he starts to

537
00:27:21,559 --> 00:27:25,440
realize that his charm and his smile is not really

538
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,480
working with these fraternity guys. And there starts to be

539
00:27:28,559 --> 00:27:30,160
kind of a heaviness in the room, and he goes

540
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,039
over to Peter Raggert, who plays Boone, and he's like,

541
00:27:32,079 --> 00:27:35,079
hey man, I'm kind of getting a vibe here. I

542
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,759
don't think we're really welcome, even though we're invited.

543
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,559
Speaker 3: I don't think people want us here.

544
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,799
Speaker 4: They're not digging the Hollywood thing. And meantime, the guy

545
00:27:43,799 --> 00:27:48,079
who played Hoover, his name is James Whitos. He's downstairs

546
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,039
and like a guy is holding up his hand not

547
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,079
letting him in, and he's like, I'm in the cast.

548
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,000
I've been invited to this party. You need to let

549
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,759
me in. The guy's like, no, you're not coming in it.

550
00:27:57,559 --> 00:28:00,359
And the guy who plays d Day his name is

551
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,519
Bruce McGill. He's been in a lot of stuff. He's

552
00:28:02,559 --> 00:28:06,319
there and as they're leaving, like they're like, okay, we're

553
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,640
out of here. It's one of those deals where the

554
00:28:08,839 --> 00:28:14,440
bouncer says get lost, and so Hoover at the last

555
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,559
second pops his cup of beer in his face and

556
00:28:17,599 --> 00:28:21,319
in that instant, three hundred fraternity guys turn on these

557
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,440
actors and start beating the crap out of them. Matheson's

558
00:28:25,519 --> 00:28:28,440
just getting pounded, Karen Allen screaming her head off to.

559
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 3: Leave them alone, oh, I guess.

560
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,079
Speaker 4: And so finally they managed to kind of get away,

561
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,000
and they're trying to do the cool thing and like

562
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,720
walk away, Like Bruce McGill is like, we were trying

563
00:28:36,759 --> 00:28:40,079
to be like Studley, leave with our dignity, walk away.

564
00:28:40,759 --> 00:28:43,240
He turned and he's like, guys, I don't think walking

565
00:28:43,279 --> 00:28:46,039
away is going to work. And Tim Mathison's like, you're right,

566
00:28:46,119 --> 00:28:49,319
let's run. And they had to take off running.

567
00:28:49,039 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 3: From this fraternity party.

568
00:28:50,279 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 4: And every time I think about that, I'm like, I

569
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,359
wonder what these guys thought when they finally saw the movie.

570
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,079
Speaker 3: You know, right, so on the Revenge of the Nerd

571
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:01,559
side of things, mister Robert Carrodine, brother to Keith and

572
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,640
David Kardine. That blows my mind. He decided to do

573
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:06,680
something really unique.

574
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:06,839
Speaker 1: Now.

575
00:29:06,839 --> 00:29:09,559
Speaker 3: They filmed all of Revenge of the Nerds at the

576
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:15,039
University of Arizona in Tucson. Well, he enrolled before the

577
00:29:15,079 --> 00:29:19,880
filming started. He enrolled in classes, and he wore his

578
00:29:20,079 --> 00:29:22,960
nerd gear. He wore the button the shirt buttoned all

579
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,720
the way up, the pocket protector, the hair that was

580
00:29:25,759 --> 00:29:29,359
sticking up in the back like alfalfa, and the nerd glasses,

581
00:29:30,119 --> 00:29:32,799
and just to get a vibe of what it was

582
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,759
like to be a nerd on college campus, thinking okay,

583
00:29:36,799 --> 00:29:39,440
well this is an acting exercise. Well that's great. It

584
00:29:39,519 --> 00:29:42,680
was so impactful that after it happened, he sat in

585
00:29:42,759 --> 00:29:45,720
his hotel room for three days getting over it. The

586
00:29:45,759 --> 00:29:50,160
abuse or the real whatever he went through was something

587
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,960
that was so significant that he did not want to

588
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,880
be around other human beings for three days. Wow.

589
00:29:55,079 --> 00:29:58,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's interesting. Well, so here's another story for you.

590
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,319
So the University of Arizona agrees to let them film

591
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,920
Revenge of the Nerds on their campus. Yeah, and then

592
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:08,000
two weeks later the university administrators say, no, we changed

593
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:08,480
their minds.

594
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:13,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, they had gotten approval from Bill Varney, the assistant

595
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:17,640
vice president for administrative Services. But then yeah, two weeks

596
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,799
later the administrators said, nope, we're pulling that permission. And

597
00:30:21,799 --> 00:30:23,680
that's I mean, that's a crappy thing to do. We've

598
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,200
you've for the last two weeks, we've been like prepping

599
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,759
and filming and doing stuff.

600
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 4: Come on, guys, And so Alan Bigel, who's the vice

601
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,519
president of university Relations, he says, there is nothing you

602
00:30:34,559 --> 00:30:37,079
can do or say that will make us change our minds.

603
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,039
Speaker 3: Yeah. They were worried that it was portraying campus life

604
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,559
in a way that was not representative of the real

605
00:30:43,559 --> 00:30:47,200
college life. Right, of course, Yes, it's worse in real

606
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,880
college it's worse. Right, we would have gotten an X

607
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,839
rating had we shown what happens in real fraternities and sororities.

608
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:54,319
That's right.

609
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,799
Speaker 4: After some negotiations, the university allowed filming on campus as

610
00:30:57,799 --> 00:31:00,359
long as the producers tried to schedule the film shooing

611
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,359
so it did not affect campus activities.

612
00:31:03,599 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it basically came down to Jeff Canoe, the director

613
00:31:07,279 --> 00:31:10,319
of the movie. He went to this guy that you said,

614
00:31:10,359 --> 00:31:11,960
there's no way we're going to change your mind. He

615
00:31:12,039 --> 00:31:15,839
went to him directly and said, listen, I have a child,

616
00:31:16,319 --> 00:31:18,079
and I am not going to direct a movie that

617
00:31:18,079 --> 00:31:21,000
I would not let my child watch. That's interesting, which

618
00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:24,359
makes me question his parenting given how many felonies we

619
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:25,599
have in this movie.

620
00:31:26,039 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 4: Well, but here's the thing that's interesting, based on what

621
00:31:29,519 --> 00:31:31,759
he said to get the directing job.

622
00:31:32,039 --> 00:31:34,319
Speaker 3: Right. So, when Jeff Canoe, who is the director of

623
00:31:34,319 --> 00:31:37,440
this movie, was interviewed by producers, they said to him,

624
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,079
what kind of movie do you think you're going to make,

625
00:31:39,759 --> 00:31:42,680
and he said one I would be embarrassed to have

626
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,599
my name on and they said, you're the right man

627
00:31:45,599 --> 00:31:47,759
for the job. Gosh, that's great.

628
00:31:48,279 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 4: By the way, most of this movie was shot in

629
00:31:50,279 --> 00:31:54,079
January of nineteen eighty four, which is why there are

630
00:31:54,359 --> 00:31:56,960
not as many students on campus and they can kind

631
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,240
of work around it that way, all right, be ready

632
00:31:59,279 --> 00:32:00,000
to get into the cast.

633
00:32:00,079 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's talk about casting.

634
00:32:01,319 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 4: Okay, we want to flip back to Animal House.

635
00:32:03,559 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys up for a toga party?

636
00:32:05,599 --> 00:32:09,119
Speaker 3: Ta na taa. I think they liked the idea.

637
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,759
Speaker 4: Who All right, So when they're casting for Animal House,

638
00:32:12,799 --> 00:32:15,400
keep in mind they have three million dollars to make

639
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:20,920
this entire MOVIEEP Okay, they can't hire anybody expensive nobody, right.

640
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,720
We talked about how Smoking the bandit. They hired Burt

641
00:32:23,759 --> 00:32:25,559
Reynolds and he took up two thirds of the budget.

642
00:32:25,559 --> 00:32:28,799
Speaker 3: They can't do that. So the big name that they

643
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,200
get is John Belushi.

644
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:36,279
Speaker 4: See if you can guess what I am now?

645
00:32:37,119 --> 00:32:41,839
Speaker 3: Amzi it? Get it? They paid him forty thousand dollars

646
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:46,599
to do Animal House. Wow, forty thousand that's crazy. Here's

647
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:47,279
the kicker too.

648
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 4: They wanted chevy Chase to play Otter, who if you

649
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,759
look at it, chevy Chase would be great as Honor.

650
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,519
He's tall, he's good looking, he's a leader, he's got charisma,

651
00:32:55,599 --> 00:32:59,319
he's everything that Otter would be. But John Landis didn't

652
00:32:59,319 --> 00:33:01,920
want chevy Chase. And think about how hot chevy Chase

653
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,920
was in nineteen seventy eight. Okay, he was on the

654
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:08,000
cusp of becoming a major movie star. John Landis didn't

655
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,039
want chevy Chase as Otter. He wanted an actor to

656
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:16,720
portray the character of Otter. Okay, right, So chevy comes in,

657
00:33:16,759 --> 00:33:19,240
he takes over. He of course is I'm chevy Chase

658
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,640
and you're not, which kind of fits the out of character.

659
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,000
But he didn't want that. He wanted an unknown actor

660
00:33:24,039 --> 00:33:26,880
to play Honer. So John Landis hires Tim Matheson. Of course,

661
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,160
chevy Chase and Tim Matheson are connected from the movie

662
00:33:29,319 --> 00:33:32,160
Flech Fletch. Right, But here's the way he talked chevy

663
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,480
Chase out of becoming Otter for Animal House.

664
00:33:35,519 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 3: I thought this was brilliant.

665
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 4: So John Landis goes to chevy Chase, and of course

666
00:33:38,279 --> 00:33:40,680
John Landison and chevy Chase are friends. They've worked together

667
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,920
in spies like Us and Three Amegos. So John Landis

668
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,319
goes to chevy Chase, and chevy Chase had on the

669
00:33:46,359 --> 00:33:49,599
table he had foul Play with Goldie han And and

670
00:33:49,839 --> 00:33:52,400
Animal House. And John Landis says, listen, you really want

671
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,759
to do this movie Animal House, I'll tell you it

672
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,200
is an ensemble movie. So it's a lot like Saturday

673
00:33:58,279 --> 00:34:01,319
Night Live. So nobody really gets this spotlight. Everybody has

674
00:34:01,359 --> 00:34:04,599
their own character development. It's a total team effort, and

675
00:34:04,599 --> 00:34:07,480
that's what you're used to ensemble. So you know, that's

676
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,000
why you want to do our movie because it's not

677
00:34:09,079 --> 00:34:10,920
really a star treatment type of thing. If you do

678
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,320
this movie foul play, you're gonna be a carry grant

679
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,119
movie star with Goldie Han and you don't really want

680
00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:17,880
that manipulation at its.

681
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 3: Finest, right there, total right, subtle. Right.

682
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,199
Speaker 4: So Tim Matheson is an unknown actor.

683
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 3: He's hired to be arter.

684
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,599
Speaker 7: Don't tell me you're gonna pork, Marlene Desmond.

685
00:34:26,679 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: Pork gonna hump her brains out, aren't you?

686
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 2: Boom?

687
00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 7: I anticipate a deeply religious experience.

688
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 3: It's great, okay, Yeah.

689
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 4: Now then Thomas holtse they bring him in to play Penzol.

690
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,480
Tom Holst goes on to be Amadaeus.

691
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 3: He's also in Parenthood. Yeah, he's the he is the

692
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:49,880
drug adult reject brother in Parenthood, which by that time

693
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,760
in his life was a really true to life part

694
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,519
for him. Is that right? Yeah, he went off the

695
00:34:54,599 --> 00:34:58,360
rails pretty hard. He Yeah, he got heavily involved in

696
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,360
drugs and alcohol and just had a hard time interesting,

697
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,960
which is crazy. You know, you watch almadeas his performance

698
00:35:06,039 --> 00:35:09,960
in that is spectacular, Like he makes the movie. He

699
00:35:10,159 --> 00:35:12,480
absolutely makes the movie. You know. It's just kind of

700
00:35:12,519 --> 00:35:15,320
sad to see that those things can impact your life

701
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,880
that way and rob you of your talents. Yeah. Unfortunately

702
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,840
I sent you a picture of him today he is

703
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,480
not recognizable as the same guy. Well, I mean it

704
00:35:25,119 --> 00:35:31,400
was thirty six years ago, so you know, but still okay.

705
00:35:32,159 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 4: They hire an actor named Peter Reigert to play Boone. Now,

706
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,079
the Boone character was meant for Bill Murray.

707
00:35:39,599 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 3: Can you imagine that that Chevy Chase and Bill Murray

708
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,960
playing those two parts together, given the history of them

709
00:35:47,039 --> 00:35:50,239
fighting a fist fight each other on the set of

710
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,880
Side n Now, Yes, yeah, can.

711
00:35:52,679 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 4: You imagine a movie with Chevy Chase, Bill Murray and

712
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:55,679
John Belushi?

713
00:35:56,159 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 3: No, I would never would never, It would never have

714
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,360
gotten finished, right, they would have all burned to the ground.

715
00:36:03,519 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 4: That's exactly right.

716
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,039
Speaker 3: Yeah. Dan Aykroyd too, dan ackroy was supposed to be

717
00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:09,400
D Day. I mean, what a different movie that would

718
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,920
have been. And I don't if it had gotten made,

719
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,119
maybe it would have been spectacular. I don't know, but wow.

720
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,679
I mean you basically have all of the Saturday Night

721
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,039
Live cast playing a bunch of frat guys.

722
00:36:20,199 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 4: Sure, d Day was played by Bruce McGill. He's been

723
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,199
in Wildcats. He's the opposing coach Wildcats. He's been he

724
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,840
was in one of the Miami Vice episodes. He's a

725
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,360
good actor, but it's interesting to think dan.

726
00:36:31,199 --> 00:36:32,079
Speaker 3: Aykroyd in that part.

727
00:36:32,199 --> 00:36:36,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, you have Stephen First who plays flounder. Okay,

728
00:36:37,039 --> 00:36:40,239
you know how he got the job. Stephen First was

729
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:44,559
a pizza delivery guy in Hollywood who had aspirations of

730
00:36:44,559 --> 00:36:47,280
being an actor, and so he knew that he would

731
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,880
be delivering pizzas to Universal Studios, and so inside the

732
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:56,239
pizza boxes he would post like his head shot inside

733
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:57,679
the cardboard box of the pizzas.

734
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 3: If you're not remembering, he's the one that when they

735
00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:02,880
put his picture up as a pledge, everybody started throwing

736
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,880
beer cans at because he's not really a great looking guy, right,

737
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,159
but he thought his head shot inside of a pizza

738
00:37:09,199 --> 00:37:10,199
box would get him a job.

739
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 4: Somebody noticed him from his pizza box and invited him

740
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:18,360
to audition. Right, It's great that role came down between

741
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,440
him and Meatloaf.

742
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,760
Speaker 3: I mean, that's interesting. Meetloaf would play that part later on,

743
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,159
you know, twenty years later in Bike Club.

744
00:37:33,639 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 4: That's right, same part. And then Karen Allen goes on

745
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,559
to do Raiders of Lost Ark. Of course she got

746
00:37:39,599 --> 00:37:42,880
Raiders from this movie. Steven Spielberg loved her character and

747
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,719
she looks so young and pretty and innocent and nice

748
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,199
and sweet. Gets involved in a little love triangle with

749
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:53,000
the Donald Sutherland and Boone. So let's talk about the

750
00:37:53,159 --> 00:37:56,760
Omega House. So you've got James Dowton, who played Greg Mamillard.

751
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:01,559
He's basically the stand equivalent in Animal House, right Greg

752
00:38:01,639 --> 00:38:04,039
Is this supposed to be this song? He had been

753
00:38:04,079 --> 00:38:06,480
in Planet of the Apes, he's been in v This

754
00:38:06,519 --> 00:38:08,840
blew me away because I've never really even recognized him.

755
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,000
But he plays a Russian agent and spies like Us,

756
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:13,320
which is of course.

757
00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:15,079
Speaker 3: Directed by John Landis. Yeah.

758
00:38:15,199 --> 00:38:17,159
Speaker 4: Mart Metcalf plays Niedermeyer.

759
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:21,559
Speaker 2: You're all worthless and week drop and give me twitty.

760
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 4: You've got a pledge pin on your uniform, which he

761
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,960
then of course takes to twisted sister.

762
00:38:29,199 --> 00:38:32,519
Speaker 3: That's exactly what is that? You have a twisted sister

763
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:37,039
pen on your uniform, You're a fat disgrace.

764
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 4: He goes on two star in One Crazy Summer, who

765
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:44,679
basically plays the same a whole character in both movies. Yeah,

766
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:50,320
you have a nineteen year old Kevin Bacon who plays Chip.

767
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 3: In this movie. Thank you, sir, I have another.

768
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 4: Which I've got a great story. Don' let me forget

769
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,440
to tell you the story. At the end when they

770
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,280
go to the premiere, he's in the cast. He's one

771
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,079
of the main characters and the bad guy in the

772
00:39:01,079 --> 00:39:03,599
Omega House. His ticket doesn't say he gets to sit

773
00:39:03,639 --> 00:39:06,760
with the cast, so he had to sit like in

774
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,920
the back row with all the other and he was

775
00:39:09,159 --> 00:39:13,159
trying to tell everybody, no, I am in the movie.

776
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,159
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, whatever, kid.

777
00:39:14,519 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 4: Then you got Mary Louise Weller who plays Mandy. Her

778
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,760
biggest credits are bj and the Bear in Fantasy Island.

779
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,079
After this, then you have Martha Smith who plays Babs.

780
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,519
And you have of course John Vernon, who plays Dean.

781
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 3: Warmer, Fat, drunk and stupid. There's no way to go

782
00:39:30,519 --> 00:39:34,480
through life soon. His work and his lines in this

783
00:39:34,559 --> 00:39:38,400
movie may upon the reviewing, may be the funniest part

784
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,960
of this movie. He is absolutely hysterical. That opening scene

785
00:39:43,519 --> 00:39:47,800
sells the movie. Yes, it's it's too good. Dean Warmer

786
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,320
who I mean a couple of years earlier, he was

787
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,079
in you know, the Outlaw Josie Wales as the guy

788
00:39:54,119 --> 00:39:56,679
who is like the competitor for Josie Wales. You know

789
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:57,119
he was.

790
00:39:57,119 --> 00:39:59,639
Speaker 4: Hired from his performance in outlowd Josie Wells.

791
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, because he's such a badass.

792
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a no nonsense, tough guy.

793
00:40:04,159 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 3: It's perfect. And I love when.

794
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 4: Hoover's trying to make their case at the fraternity probationary hearing.

795
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,800
He's like, excuse me, sir, I'd like to be heard.

796
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:12,679
Speaker 3: That's not very fair.

797
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 4: He's like, you sit down and shut it. But the

798
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,960
one cast member I really want to talk to you about.

799
00:40:17,559 --> 00:40:21,199
It's kind of an urban legend. Sarah Holcombe plays Clarette

800
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,199
de Pasto. She plays the thirteen year old daughter of

801
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:28,599
the mayor. Oh yeah, Pinto takes to the fraternity party.

802
00:40:28,639 --> 00:40:32,000
He doesn't realize she's thirteen, and she gets you know,

803
00:40:32,079 --> 00:40:34,400
she passes out, and you got the angel and the

804
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,880
devil on his shoulder, which we'll talk about later. She's

805
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,920
played by Sarah Hulcomb. If you don't recognize her. She

806
00:40:40,079 --> 00:40:41,880
plays Maggie and Caddyshack.

807
00:40:42,199 --> 00:40:46,199
Speaker 3: Thanks for nuting. Oh god, that's all I need. By

808
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,079
the way, not a real Irish accent, in case you're wondering,

809
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,039
that's right. So yeah, tell us the story. So here's

810
00:40:52,079 --> 00:40:52,400
the deal.

811
00:40:52,559 --> 00:40:55,599
Speaker 4: She has four credits to her name. One isn't caddy Shack,

812
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,639
one is an Animal House. I don't care what the

813
00:40:57,639 --> 00:40:59,920
other two are. Those are two home runs. She's playing

814
00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:03,239
hilarious characters. She should have had this huge movie career.

815
00:41:03,639 --> 00:41:05,199
Speaker 3: The question is, well, what happened to her?

816
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,519
Speaker 4: And we talked about this in our Cadishack episode, But

817
00:41:07,559 --> 00:41:10,880
basically she got roped into drinking and drugs and struggled

818
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,719
with mental health issues, including schizophrenia and some other serious

819
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:15,800
mental health issues.

820
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 3: She has gone underground, like we have no idea where

821
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:19,599
she is anymore.

822
00:41:19,639 --> 00:41:21,519
Speaker 4: People who want to do follow ups, you know, for

823
00:41:21,599 --> 00:41:24,760
like the fortieth anniversary or forty fifth anniversary of Alama House,

824
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,559
you know, they reach out to her, like her brother

825
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,880
is like the point of contact. And I watched an

826
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,880
interview like we reached out. We really wanted to talk

827
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,880
to Sarah Hulcombe and her brother said she was honored

828
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,280
to be included in that movie. Thanks for asking, no thanks,

829
00:41:39,519 --> 00:41:43,000
And so she's like this Hollywood legend where just she vanished.

830
00:41:43,639 --> 00:41:46,760
Speaker 3: There you go, Sarah Holcomb tragic. Yep, Okay, we want

831
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,760
to talk about the cast of Revenge of the Nerds. Yeah,

832
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,199
let's do it. Okay, okay, gosh, you're going to show

833
00:41:51,199 --> 00:41:54,800
me your guards two and four kings. That's good? Yes, no, no,

834
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,840
you got too many kings. Oh, Shane got to get

835
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:57,280
rid of these.

836
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 7: Well, I'll take three of these kings out and will

837
00:42:00,519 --> 00:42:03,039
replace them with pretty fresh card.

838
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 3: Oh.

839
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,599
Speaker 4: Okay, you've got Robert Carodine who plays Lewis.

840
00:42:08,079 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 3: Robert, as I mentioned, brother of Keith, maybe half brother

841
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:16,599
of Keith and full brother of David Carodeine. Right, So two,

842
00:42:17,639 --> 00:42:20,800
if you're thinking of these three brothers together, one of

843
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,440
them plays a significantly different type of character than the

844
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,360
other two. The other two are kind of badasses, and

845
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:30,119
then you have Robert playing the nerd r. Yeah, and

846
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,559
I sent you a picture. I was like, you remember

847
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,280
talking about John Carodine, the father of these three guys,

848
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,599
And you're like I'm I'm like, okay, here we go,

849
00:42:40,639 --> 00:42:43,360
here's some hints. And I was like, movie directed by

850
00:42:43,639 --> 00:42:47,440
Joe Dante and you were like Grimlins and I'm like now,

851
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,960
and then I believe the second hint was his character's

852
00:42:53,039 --> 00:42:57,559
name was Earl Kenton, which was a horror film director name,

853
00:42:58,039 --> 00:43:00,119
like all of the other characters in this movie. And

854
00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:03,239
you're like, ah, the howling, the hell yep, the howling.

855
00:43:03,519 --> 00:43:06,440
That's interesting. So yeah, John Carrodine had been a guy

856
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,480
who had been in a bunch of monster movies, like

857
00:43:08,519 --> 00:43:11,199
he was. He was in those movies that like the

858
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,719
Lown Cheney Junior movies and the Bell of the GHOSTI movies.

859
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,239
It's actually a fantastic picture of those three guys, like

860
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,559
diving in to eat somebody's head in some movie, you know.

861
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,360
And but his favorite credit, I love this, This is

862
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,639
obviously not in the heyday of his career. That was

863
00:43:27,639 --> 00:43:31,440
a movie called Billy the Kid Versus Dracula. He was Dracula.

864
00:43:31,519 --> 00:43:32,920
Oh nice, Yeah, nice.

865
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,280
Speaker 4: I did listen to Robert Cardine talk about his start

866
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:38,079
in Hollywood.

867
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was in a John Wayne movie, The Cowboys.

868
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:41,280
Is that what it was?

869
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 4: In a John Wayne movie called The Cowboys? Yeah, And

870
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:48,039
he was sharing a scene with the duke right right,

871
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,840
and he noticed that he didn't really like the way

872
00:43:51,079 --> 00:43:55,079
that John Wayne was pronouncing his words. And so this

873
00:43:55,199 --> 00:43:55,920
young guy.

874
00:43:56,280 --> 00:44:00,559
Speaker 3: He's a kid, he's twenty if. Yeah, they were all young,

875
00:44:00,599 --> 00:44:02,119
they were young kids in that movie. Yeah.

876
00:44:02,159 --> 00:44:07,199
Speaker 4: So he says, he says, he corrected John Wayne and

877
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,880
he said something like I think you ought to say

878
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:15,320
it like this, and John Wayne says, we don't think, son,

879
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,639
we act. He said, the Duke put me in my place.

880
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:20,519
And I just thought that was a great story.

881
00:44:20,599 --> 00:44:23,079
Speaker 3: That is a great story. That's fantastic.

882
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,119
Speaker 4: Okay, second, Billy, you got Anthony Edwards.

883
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,639
Speaker 3: Goose talk to me, Goose, talk to me.

884
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:29,039
Speaker 7: Goose.

885
00:44:29,639 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 3: Gilbert and Goose are the same actor. It's crazy.

886
00:44:33,119 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 7: I'm a nerd, and uh, I'm pretty proud of it.

887
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,159
Speaker 3: And then he goes on to be a heart throb

888
00:44:39,199 --> 00:44:41,079
in er with George Clooney.

889
00:44:41,199 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: Yeah he does.

890
00:44:42,119 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he didn't want to play this role. I

891
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,239
have to tell this story. When I said something about

892
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,079
Anthony Edwards, you were with me and my daughter, my

893
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,920
twelve year old daughter, and my daughter's like the basketball

894
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,719
player and you're like the who, No, we're talking about

895
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,400
the actor. There's not a basketball player. She's like yeah,

896
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,840
And then there's a and by golly, you looked him

897
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,280
up and you're like, I am a fool. He is, like,

898
00:45:05,679 --> 00:45:08,559
what top scorer in the Olympics Right now.

899
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,599
Speaker 4: He's on the Dream Team. He's killing it. He had

900
00:45:10,599 --> 00:45:11,639
twenty six the other night.

901
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 3: Yes, your daughter schooled me in sports. I can't believe

902
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,519
I didn't know who. That was great. It was great.

903
00:45:18,639 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 4: So Anthony Edwards had been in a movie called Gotcha,

904
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,079
who was directed by Scott Canoe. Okay, yeah, and so

905
00:45:25,159 --> 00:45:27,760
I think that's kind of how he landed this role. Yeah,

906
00:45:28,079 --> 00:45:30,519
I heard him talking. He's got At the time of

907
00:45:30,519 --> 00:45:33,320
the interview, he has like four kids between ages of

908
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,599
fifteen and seven. And the interview guy says, have you

909
00:45:36,679 --> 00:45:37,920
shown your fifteen.

910
00:45:37,639 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 3: Year old Revenge of the Nerds yet?

911
00:45:39,039 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 4: And he says, no, he hasn't seen it. He goes,

912
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:42,920
I know he's heard of it. I know he knows

913
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,320
I'm in it. He goes, but I don't want to

914
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,679
erase any ounce of respect I may have left in

915
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,519
the bank with him by showing him how nerdy I

916
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,360
was as a as an actor.

917
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,199
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and he really was the one who stayed

918
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,440
truly a nerd throughout this whole thing. He was the

919
00:45:59,559 --> 00:46:04,639
guy who didn't change, He didn't hook up. As far

920
00:46:04,639 --> 00:46:07,119
as I could tell, he didn't get violent. He was

921
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,119
just he was trying to do the right thing throughout.

922
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:14,400
He really was. Even though even though Robert Chardine kind

923
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,199
of took over because he was so nerdy as the

924
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:21,920
kind of star of this, Anthony Edwards was the true storyline.

925
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,719
Starts with him in bed, worried about going to school,

926
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,119
being scared to leave his mom. You know, yeah, not

927
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,039
because he's scared for himself, but he's just worried about

928
00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:33,280
leaving her. So sweet, he's a sweet kid. Yeah.

929
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,199
Speaker 4: Now I would make the case that he does end

930
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:35,880
up with Judy.

931
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:41,039
Speaker 3: Who's Michelle meinrink? Name is Judy. Judy's a nice name, Gilbert. Yeah,

932
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:42,159
she's a nice girl.

933
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 2: A big deal.

934
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 3: Did you get in her pants? She's not that kind

935
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:46,280
of a girl, booger.

936
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 4: Why does she have a Penis who we've talked about before.

937
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's in Real Genius, which we haven't talked to

938
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,039
you at place, Jordan and Real Genius, which I had

939
00:46:55,039 --> 00:46:57,920
a total crush on her. She was awesome. I loved her.

940
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,440
But she was also in the Outsider. She's in the Outsider.

941
00:47:00,519 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 4: She's the girl sitting next to Cherry Valance at the

942
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,639
drive through when Dally comes up and starts bugging them.

943
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 3: There's another actress that I'm surprised didn't do more. She

944
00:47:09,159 --> 00:47:12,079
was in I mean, you got The Outsiders, you've got

945
00:47:12,119 --> 00:47:15,400
Real Genius, You've got Revenge of the Nerds. And she's

946
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,519
a major part in all of these movies and she's

947
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,480
very engaging. I'm just I wonder why she didn't do more.

948
00:47:21,559 --> 00:47:23,519
Speaker 4: I don't know, I'm not sure. Let's talk about mister

949
00:47:23,559 --> 00:47:26,800
Ted McGinley. Okay, so he plays Stan in this movie.

950
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,119
He's the head Alpha Beta.

951
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,679
Speaker 3: Yes, he is the guy from Happy Days.

952
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,280
Speaker 4: He was in Happy Days, he was in Married with Children.

953
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 3: Now.

954
00:47:33,639 --> 00:47:37,119
Speaker 4: Jeff Canoe saw Ted McGinley on the cover of the

955
00:47:37,159 --> 00:47:38,960
Men of usc calendar calendar.

956
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 3: He was a calendar boy. He's a pinup boy. Yeah,

957
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:41,840
that's great.

958
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 4: Decided that he would be perfect to be the head

959
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,599
guy of the Alphabeta fraternity. And I will tell you

960
00:47:46,639 --> 00:47:49,400
this as a former athlete myself. When he throws javelin,

961
00:47:49,559 --> 00:47:51,320
that guy's jock. You can tell he's a jock.

962
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,280
Speaker 3: Okay. I saw that part and to myself, I said, okay,

963
00:47:55,599 --> 00:47:58,599
they picked this part of the competition to show him

964
00:47:58,599 --> 00:48:02,480
doing something that he could really do, because, as I

965
00:48:02,559 --> 00:48:04,679
mentioned to you, when you when they are in the

966
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,760
weight room and I'm watching the weightlifting that he's doing,

967
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,079
I'm like, what in the holy heck what is that?

968
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 2: Right?

969
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 3: Like he's spinning, like he's got the weights in his hands,

970
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,960
spinning his arms around in this weird sort of I

971
00:48:18,119 --> 00:48:21,039
was just like, that is not an exercise anybody should

972
00:48:21,079 --> 00:48:22,800
ever do in their lives if they want to have,

973
00:48:23,079 --> 00:48:26,239
you know, no injuries. That's just it's awful. It's awful

974
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,920
to see it see it happen. But yes, I could

975
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,519
tell that he had had some experience with the javelin.

976
00:48:31,639 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, Julie Montgomery plays Betty Child's naked.

977
00:48:37,199 --> 00:48:39,199
Speaker 3: She'd been in One Life to Live. You know, she

978
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,159
doesn't really do a whole lot. She's just the cutie

979
00:48:42,199 --> 00:48:44,199
that kind of carries this the love interest line on

980
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:49,559
the Babe. Yeah. Now, Timothy Bussfield, he plays Poindexter. Fantastic part. Like, okay,

981
00:48:49,639 --> 00:48:52,719
so Timothy Bussfield again, nobody at that point. He goes

982
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,400
on to be one of the main guys in Thirty Somethings. Yep,

983
00:48:55,639 --> 00:48:59,000
he was in field of dreams. He was a major

984
00:48:59,039 --> 00:49:02,800
guy in West Wind. I mean he's he's a major player.

985
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,119
He becomes a major player after this. And he's not

986
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,599
really nerdy in those things, like he's just kind of

987
00:49:07,639 --> 00:49:11,920
the regular redheaded guy. But this part was very much

988
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,119
a side character. And that's an interesting there's I'm this

989
00:49:14,199 --> 00:49:16,159
is gonna be a similar story. I'm gonna tell to

990
00:49:16,159 --> 00:49:17,719
another guy you're gonna talk about here in a second.

991
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,719
But the actors before they come in to do their read,

992
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,159
they're like, man, I really don't know. This character doesn't

993
00:49:23,159 --> 00:49:26,119
have much and so he brought his own story to it,

994
00:49:26,199 --> 00:49:30,480
Like he he put his hair in that weird party

995
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,000
to the side the thing. He went to a thrift

996
00:49:34,039 --> 00:49:38,239
shop and bought the suit that he wears throughout the movie,

997
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,280
and he liked I don't I think the character had

998
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,360
one line in the whole movie. But he is a

999
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,360
key Poindexter is a key ingredient, especially when it comes

1000
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,119
to the final music competition and he's the guy playing

1001
00:49:50,159 --> 00:49:51,639
the electric feddle. You know, you're right.

1002
00:49:51,679 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 4: He doesn't say very much, but he does things like

1003
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,159
he bumps into a wall and you know he can't see,

1004
00:49:57,559 --> 00:49:59,519
so he's kind of a mister McGoo type of character,

1005
00:49:59,559 --> 00:50:02,599
and he says, excuse me, and then when they're watching

1006
00:50:02,639 --> 00:50:06,360
the illegal videos of the sorority house, he's like, ah,

1007
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,719
and he looks looks, you know, he improvised that. Yeah,

1008
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,639
I can't describe what actually happens there.

1009
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,159
Speaker 3: But yeah, yes, well and he dances and he dance

1010
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,880
and then the dancing is fantastic, right, it's it is

1011
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:22,400
the perfect combination of nerd and I'm getting my groove on. Yes,

1012
00:50:22,519 --> 00:50:25,280
let's talk about mister Curtis Armstrong for a second. Okay,

1013
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:31,840
dowthan Dudley, call me Booger. That's the other story. Just

1014
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,920
like Timothy Bussfield, Booger was a character that had really

1015
00:50:36,039 --> 00:50:38,679
no major part in this movie. That's right. And Curtis

1016
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,360
Armstrong did even more. He did even more than Timothy

1017
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:41,920
Bussfield it.

1018
00:50:42,039 --> 00:50:44,079
Speaker 4: He said, I really wrestled with him for a long

1019
00:50:44,119 --> 00:50:47,920
time because I don't like being disgusting myself, and so

1020
00:50:48,159 --> 00:50:50,280
I just had to convince myself that this was a

1021
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,159
acting challenge that I needed to tackle.

1022
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:53,679
Speaker 3: He said.

1023
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,599
Speaker 4: Turned out to be a top three acting experience for me.

1024
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's he's just come off of ski business.

1025
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,519
He was Tom's best friend. Yeah, he's the sometimes you

1026
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,840
just got to say what the And then he of

1027
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,199
course goes on to be in one of our favorite

1028
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:13,000
TV shows, Lighting Yeah. Yeah, I mean that's the top

1029
00:51:13,039 --> 00:51:16,199
three right there, right Viola Yeah, and he's yeah. He

1030
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:17,920
said that a lot of the lines that he had

1031
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,199
in this movie were improved lines, but by doing that,

1032
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,440
it becomes some of the best lines in the movie.

1033
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,199
Like Booger is arguably one of the best characters in

1034
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,800
the whole movie, and it really is because of Curtis

1035
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,199
taking that acting challenge.

1036
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 4: I was listening to an interview with him, and he

1037
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,079
was making the case that he is not a nerd.

1038
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,079
He's an outsider for sure. Yeah, but he's not a nerd.

1039
00:51:37,199 --> 00:51:39,960
But because he was kicked out of the freshman dorms,

1040
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,800
he has been forged with these guys and so he

1041
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,159
is now a adopted member of the nerds. Yeah, all right,

1042
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:47,760
let's talk about Larry B.

1043
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 3: Scott, same kind of scenario. Not actually a nerd, but

1044
00:51:51,119 --> 00:51:52,320
definitely an outsider.

1045
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:56,119
Speaker 4: Yes, he came to the audition with glitter in his hair,

1046
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,679
the handkerchief around his neck, and the producers could not

1047
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,840
stop laughing at him, and so they hired him right

1048
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,719
on the spot. He actually is one of the guys

1049
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,119
in Cobra Kai who gets beat up by Danielson in

1050
00:52:08,199 --> 00:52:08,920
the Karate Kid.

1051
00:52:09,039 --> 00:52:11,639
Speaker 3: Most people do not remember that. It's crazy. Yep.

1052
00:52:11,679 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 4: Okay, a couple more guys I want to talk about.

1053
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:17,400
You got Brian Tauchi, who plays Toshiro, who Booger's teaching

1054
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,239
to play cards. Yes, I have a two and four

1055
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:21,760
kings that's good, right?

1056
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 3: No?

1057
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:23,679
Speaker 4: No, no, so you got too many kings here. But

1058
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,519
he's super funny. He goes on to do some work

1059
00:52:26,519 --> 00:52:29,719
in the Police Academy movies. His character is hilarious, by

1060
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:34,079
the way, drinking real beer when they're doing the tricycle race. Wow,

1061
00:52:34,159 --> 00:52:35,840
they said he was hammered.

1062
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 3: Did he take that medicine that negated the album? Yeah?

1063
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,960
I wish that was a real thing. Right, all right,

1064
00:52:43,039 --> 00:52:47,199
let's talk about Donald Gibb. Yes, not one of the beachies.

1065
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 2: That's right.

1066
00:52:47,519 --> 00:52:50,039
Speaker 3: No, not Barry Gibb. No, Donald Gibb.

1067
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 4: He was a stunt person before Revenge.

1068
00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 3: Of the Nerds. Yeah. He went to college. He played basketball,

1069
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,639
basketball scholarship.

1070
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,639
Speaker 4: Scholarship until he quit the team and went to the

1071
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,559
University of San Diego and played football.

1072
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:08,599
Speaker 3: There you go. Because he's six' four and he's huge an. Athlete,

1073
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,159
yeah now listen to. This when he, auditioned he was

1074
00:53:11,159 --> 00:53:13,519
a stunt. Man they were having trouble filling the role Of,

1075
00:53:13,559 --> 00:53:15,800
ogre so he goes on to Play. Ogre of, course

1076
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,760
but his agent, said, LOOK i know this. Movie they're

1077
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,280
looking for An. Ogre they can't find anybody wants you.

1078
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,400
Auditioned so he goes in and he, reads.

1079
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 4: But he has a full beard hu and his agent

1080
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:28,760
calls him back and, says, listen they like what you're,

1081
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,079
doing but they think you're too. Old he, goes so

1082
00:53:31,119 --> 00:53:33,599
shave your beard and come over here and do another.

1083
00:53:33,639 --> 00:53:35,599
Read he said he had twenty minutes to get over,

1084
00:53:35,639 --> 00:53:37,960
there so he shaved like lightning.

1085
00:53:38,039 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 3: Fast and so he goes. Back in those, days the

1086
00:53:42,199 --> 00:53:44,880
blades were not great and so he had toilet like

1087
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,360
bloody toilet paper all over his.

1088
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:50,039
Speaker 4: Face when he went into, audition he, Said Jeff, canoe the,

1089
00:53:50,079 --> 00:53:52,840
director was, like you need to take off that bloody toilet.

1090
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 3: PAPER i have to think that his contribution to the

1091
00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:00,440
movie is a key to its. Success his just hisd

1092
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,760
that bit was one of the most memorable parts from

1093
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,199
The from the preview that we would see before it came,

1094
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:11,199
on and even the movie. Itself he plays a part

1095
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,920
that is crucial in the to the success of the.

1096
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,599
Speaker 4: Movie absolutely, absolutely and then he goes on to become

1097
00:54:17,599 --> 00:54:18,840
a nerd like in the subsequent.

1098
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,199
Speaker 3: Movies so you've got you've Got Marcy darcy As, stan

1099
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:26,159
and you've Got Donald gibb is ogre. Yep, now if you'll,

1100
00:54:26,199 --> 00:54:29,159
remember there's a third, guy, right there's a third. Guy

1101
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,880
you think about the poster and it's Got Anthony edwards

1102
00:54:33,039 --> 00:54:36,840
And Robert, carrodine you, know standing with the girls on

1103
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:41,639
top of three frat, guys, right, Yes and so obviously

1104
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,880
one of those Is ted, McGinley the other one Is Donald.

1105
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:50,559
Gibb the third. Guy crazy story on how he got this?

1106
00:54:50,639 --> 00:54:51,599
Part you tell.

1107
00:54:51,639 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 4: It, well here's WHAT i. Know his name Is Matt.

1108
00:54:55,199 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 3: Salinger, yeah his dad IS. Jd. Salinger and for those

1109
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,119
less literate folks out, there that's the guy who Wrote

1110
00:55:04,119 --> 00:55:04,719
The catcher in The.

1111
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,039
Speaker 4: Rye and basically they were fans of his dad's.

1112
00:55:08,039 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 3: Book, Yeah Jeff canoe was a fan of this guy's,

1113
00:55:10,519 --> 00:55:13,800
book of his dad's, book and so he gets the.

1114
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,360
Part SO i said to, you do you know what

1115
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:21,000
else he was. IN i do Not, yeah this was

1116
00:55:21,039 --> 00:55:23,880
an exciting find for. Me he was in a movie

1117
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:28,159
in nineteen ninety that was a not big release movie

1118
00:55:28,159 --> 00:55:30,480
but A tv, movie but a first in a series

1119
00:55:30,519 --> 00:55:34,760
Of marvel movies where he played the part Of Steve

1120
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:40,920
rodgers Aka Captain. America oh my, gosh that was played

1121
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:46,000
By Matt salinger in the wildly popular rated three point

1122
00:55:46,159 --> 00:55:51,880
two On IMDb Original Captain america. Movie that is. Fantastic,

1123
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,239
okay so let's talk About John goodman as Co. Chairs

1124
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:57,119
when you.

1125
00:55:57,119 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 6: Were a baby in your, crib your father looked down at.

1126
00:56:01,519 --> 00:56:06,519
You he had but one. Home someday my son will

1127
00:56:06,519 --> 00:56:10,360
grow to be a. Man we'll look at.

1128
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 7: You.

1129
00:56:10,599 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 6: Now you just got your asses whipped by a bunch

1130
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:19,280
of go damn.

1131
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:27,639
Speaker 3: Nerds. Nerds, ah, YES i mean actor of imminent, renown

1132
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,159
but in nineteen eighty four hadn't done a whole. Lot

1133
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:31,519
he is awesome in this.

1134
00:56:31,639 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 4: MOVIE i think he's one of the guys who does

1135
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,679
the best job in his, role.

1136
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 3: Right because in him you see the, jocks the frat,

1137
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:43,920
guys you see their. Future, yeah and then nicely against

1138
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:47,159
that in the nerd, future you see the dean and

1139
00:56:47,199 --> 00:56:50,000
The dean and the coach play against each, other, right,

1140
00:56:50,079 --> 00:56:52,519
sure and of course in the end The dean wins.

1141
00:56:52,519 --> 00:56:57,280
Speaker 4: Out you just got your asses whipped by a bunch of.

1142
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,119
Speaker 3: Nerds nerds.

1143
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,119
Speaker 4: Words So John goodman o curse goes on to Do

1144
00:57:03,119 --> 00:57:05,280
The Big, labaski which we have done an episode.

1145
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 3: On go back and find that. One that was a fun. Episode,

1146
00:57:07,559 --> 00:57:11,039
yeah And Raising, arizona which is the one we compared it.

1147
00:57:11,079 --> 00:57:11,440
To that's.

1148
00:57:11,519 --> 00:57:11,639
Speaker 1: Right.

1149
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:15,639
Speaker 3: Yeah John goodman's incredible. Actor, ye Local missouri. Guy and

1150
00:57:15,679 --> 00:57:17,639
then The dean is played by a guy Named David

1151
00:57:17,679 --> 00:57:21,280
wall who hasn't done a whole lot other than that. Movie,

1152
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,760
sure but you've got another couple of guys that are.

1153
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:29,760
Important number, one you've Got Bernie, casey the president of

1154
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:33,280
the Tri lamb chapter that has to get. Grant And

1155
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,559
Bernie casey has been in so many of these like

1156
00:57:35,639 --> 00:57:40,000
small parts in these great, movies Including Spies Like us

1157
00:57:40,159 --> 00:57:42,679
and it Wasn't Spies Like. Us, yeah he's the guy

1158
00:57:42,679 --> 00:57:44,840
that comes out and kicks. It, well what are we

1159
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,159
supposed to? Do and he's like maybe something like this

1160
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,760
just knocks everybody, out that's. Right and then he was

1161
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:55,000
also In bill And ted's excellent adventure as the history

1162
00:57:55,039 --> 00:57:58,159
professor given them their. Stuff he's In Never Say Never,

1163
00:57:58,239 --> 00:58:00,960
again and he's In i'm, On get You. SUCKER i,

1164
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:01,239
mean he.

1165
00:58:02,719 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 4: Plays Felix lighter In Never Say Never, Again James bond's best.

1166
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 3: Friend, yeah and get, this this is a deep.

1167
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 4: Cut do you remember when we Did Best Horror movies

1168
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,599
of the, Seventies, yes AND i told you one of

1169
00:58:14,679 --> 00:58:17,800
my favorite ones was a movie Called. Gargoyles, yes, Yes

1170
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:22,000
Bernie casey plays the main gargoyle in that crappy old horror.

1171
00:58:22,079 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 3: Movie. Ah, okay, okay, nice there you. Go and there's

1172
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:31,400
one more actor that we have to, mention Mister James. Cromwell,

1173
00:58:31,519 --> 00:58:36,920
Yes James cromwell plays the, dad Mister. Skolnick, yes, Yes lewis's,

1174
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,719
Dad lewis's, dad and he has you, know he is

1175
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:44,960
an obvious. Nerd he is also an obvious. Nerd, Now James,

1176
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,480
cromwell you've probably seen him In La, Confidential you've probably

1177
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,760
seen him In The Green, Mile you've probably seen him

1178
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:54,760
in The General's Daughter. Babe but he said that he

1179
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,840
was the one that came up with the definitive.

1180
00:58:58,360 --> 00:58:58,679
Speaker 1: Nerd.

1181
00:58:59,199 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 3: Laugh, Right college guys are all. Alike so you really

1182
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:10,840
care about it's getting Laid and he says he knows

1183
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:12,800
that he's the one that came up with it because

1184
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,760
he had gotten it from his ex. Wife that was

1185
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:17,719
how his ex wife used to, laugh and he just

1186
00:59:17,719 --> 00:59:21,800
thought it was, ridiculous and so he imitated her, laugh which,

1187
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:26,159
then of Course Robert carradine imitated him imitating her. Laugh

1188
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,119
and so you've got the most, iconic.

1189
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 4: Fantastic, okay, well that's gonna do it for the end

1190
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:34,880
of this. Episode come back next week when we talk

1191
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:38,719
about part. Two we'll go through funny parts of this.

1192
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,400
Movie we'll give our final judgment on which movie we

1193
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,679
think is the better one next.

1194
00:59:43,719 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 3: Week before we go, THOUGH i you know we did

1195
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,239
last week we did the New shirley You Can't Be

1196
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,960
serious theme. SONG i was a big. Hit we had

1197
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:56,159
a lot of people respond positively to. That one of

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00:59:56,199 --> 01:00:00,960
our lifetime lifelong, Fans Chris, webber, though hit me up

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01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,880
and he, SAID i really like the, song BUT i

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01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,760
feel like if you did kind of a more eighties

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01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:10,079
version of the, song maybe a little more depeche, modey

1202
01:00:10,639 --> 01:00:12,719
that that that might be a better fit for the.

1203
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,360
Podcast AND i, said, hey let's give it a, try

1204
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,400
so we we threw it back to The Shirley You

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01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:21,119
Can't Be serious podcast band with those instructions and, said,

1206
01:00:21,159 --> 01:00:23,239
hey can you can you give us something that's a

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01:00:23,239 --> 01:00:27,280
little more depeche, Modey, so ladies and, gentlemen your own

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01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,559
personal surely by The shirley You Can't Be serious podcast, Band.

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01:00:37,559 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 7: Little, boy the movie so much, joy but like.

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01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:46,639
Speaker 2: Nothing, today.

1211
01:00:50,039 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 3: The, insane but that's when.

1212
01:00:55,559 --> 01:00:56,199
Speaker 2: He gave me.

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01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:04,559
Speaker 5: Joy surely there's a sign the. Same surely we will

1214
01:01:04,639 --> 01:01:09,679
cross the. Streams surely this can be the bass.

1215
01:01:09,559 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 2: Fetter is Surely o'm mucky queen coming back a kiss

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01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:20,639
a rag in the. Scene surely you, can't you can't be.

1217
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:27,039
Speaker 5: Serious Freddy, Jason Michael scary uh does a cat's macessary

1218
01:01:27,559 --> 01:01:29,360
h feels like.

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01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 2: A dark side of the, wall but surely cuts the motor. Clean,

1220
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:42,079
yeah she's a killer, queen but we'll spike the. Football

1221
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:46,719
surely there's a sign the. Same surely will cross the.

1222
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:54,559
Speaker 5: Streams surely this can't be the bass fetter is surely

1223
01:01:54,639 --> 01:01:58,880
o'ma mucky queen come back and gives a wreck in the. Scene,

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01:02:00,159 --> 01:02:02,119
sully you, can't you can't be.

1225
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 7: Serious tommy ge does they both.

1226
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,519
Speaker 2: Knew billin said they knew it.

1227
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:24,639
Speaker 7: Too surely vol, Delirious, daniel crank, Cakes donny's face or

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01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:26,320
a'll taking in the wrong.

1229
01:02:26,639 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 2: Place surely you can't be. Serious shot first became a

1230
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:34,880
trucker and A booby was the.

1231
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 7: Worst you Think i'm serious Until toby S.

1232
01:02:41,599 --> 01:02:48,039
Speaker 2: Sully you can't Je. Suy you can't Chaffy. Sully you.

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01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:56,920
Can't you can't be. Serious J jasey Jes. Sully you.

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01:02:57,199 --> 01:03:02,559
Can't you can't Be. Sully can't you chaffy? Serious?

1235
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:06,639
Speaker 4: Wow?

1236
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 2: Sully you can't still Chaffy? Sully you chant still Chaffy.

1237
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,360
Sully you, can't you can't be. Serious