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<v Speaker 1>Weird things happened in the Weird Weird Weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Bledsoe said, so, guys, we I know I

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<v Speaker 2>always say this, but I really mean it. We have

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<v Speaker 2>a very special guest tonight, my friend Paul Cinderella, the

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<v Speaker 2>executive vice president of the Monrostitute and the chief Technology officer.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you hearing my cat mew Paul I did.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's great.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry about that. But before we get into our

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<v Speaker 2>conversation tonight, I just want to mention to you guys

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<v Speaker 2>about contact modalities xbo so May one through third, Am

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<v Speaker 2>I getting that right? Alex and Delavan, Wisconsin at the

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<v Speaker 2>Lakeland Resort, there's gonna be a fantastic conference. My father,

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<v Speaker 2>my sister, my brother, and Alex will be there. I

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<v Speaker 2>cannot be there because I will have a freshly born

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<v Speaker 2>baby of about two weeks old at the time, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's just too much for me to go. But don't stress,

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<v Speaker 2>because Alex will be there and you know the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of my family. It's going to be a good time.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of other amazing presenters there. There's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be four skywatches, by the way, three of them

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<v Speaker 2>are open to everybody who purchases that tier of tickets,

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<v Speaker 2>and one of them is going to be private where

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<v Speaker 2>people are bussed to an exclusive, very legendary paranormal hotspot location.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, it is sold out, and with their

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<v Speaker 2>giveaway on Instagram, there is an opportunity for three lucky

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<v Speaker 2>souls to win a ticket to the VIP private SkyWatch.

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<v Speaker 2>There's going to be like thirty presenters. There's four conference

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<v Speaker 2>rooms going simultaneously with presentations going on. While workshops are

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<v Speaker 2>being done, people are going to be selling really cool stuff, books, merchandise, crystals,

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<v Speaker 2>doing sound baths. It's really a good time and much

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<v Speaker 2>highly recommend you guys check out Contact Modalities XPO. Can

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<v Speaker 2>you hit them with the website alex Contact Modalities XPO

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<v Speaker 2>dot com. Awesome, All right, well, Paul, I'm sorry to

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<v Speaker 2>have to make you wait through that.

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<v Speaker 3>No worries.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so good to see you man. How have you been.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's good to see you too. I've been great,

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<v Speaker 4>been busy, you know, which is always a good thing.

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<v Speaker 4>And there's a lot going on Edmnroe these days.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>Over the course of my time at Monroe, this is

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<v Speaker 4>really pretty unique in terms of how how much things

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<v Speaker 4>are just happening in general, just a lot of opportunities

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<v Speaker 4>coming our way, which I mean, it's just so fantastic.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's very exciting. Good to be busy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And I just have to comment on that that

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<v Speaker 2>I think that right now Monroe is hotter than it's

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<v Speaker 2>ever been. It's it feels like it's just exploding.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it really is. I think that's true.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean when we look back historically at where Monroe

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<v Speaker 4>has been, you know, since the early day, since the seventies,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it's it's never been like this. And we

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<v Speaker 4>have people at Monroe who have been on staff for

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<v Speaker 4>like thirty years, and we are definitely in unique territory here.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, the fact that we have basically sold out

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<v Speaker 4>almost all of our campus capacity already for this year

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<v Speaker 4>as of like January. That's like never ever, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>even been close to happening. You know, ten or fifteen

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<v Speaker 4>years ago. It was often a struggle just to fill

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<v Speaker 4>programs and keep things going. And I mean it's just

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<v Speaker 4>so rewarding to see that we're in such a different

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<v Speaker 4>place right now. And you know, I think it's a

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<v Speaker 4>combination of things. I think it's obviously a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>effort intention on our side, you know, intentionally trying to

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<v Speaker 4>really get this out to the world in a big way.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's also I think just sort of indicative of

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<v Speaker 4>what's happening in general. I think people are seeing what's

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<v Speaker 4>going on in the world, and I think people are

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<v Speaker 4>ready for, you know, something more. They're ready for a

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<v Speaker 4>deeper understanding of, you know, kind of who we are

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<v Speaker 4>and why we're here.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's just, yeah, it's great to see that all

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<v Speaker 3>coming together.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's honestly so true. It's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you're right that so many people now are seeking something more.

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<v Speaker 2>They're seeking something profound in a way to connect with themselves,

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<v Speaker 2>to connect with, you know, the other side, so to speak.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever it is that people are are are looking for.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like, you know, they find a piece of

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<v Speaker 2>that at Monroe. I don't know if that makes sense,

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<v Speaker 2>but it opens so many doors for so many people,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just I appreciate that about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I do too.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think speaking just from my own experience, like,

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<v Speaker 4>and I know I'm not unique in saying this, you

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<v Speaker 4>know it the experiences that I've had at Monroe and

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<v Speaker 4>kind of on my owners as well, have just changed,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the way that I approach life. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>when you you know, we get to the core of

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<v Speaker 4>what Monroe's all about, and it's about giving people this

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<v Speaker 4>direct experience that we're more than physical. And like, when

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<v Speaker 4>you have that experience and it's your own experience, it

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<v Speaker 4>really changes the way that you approach things, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>kind of it kind of changes your value system, It

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<v Speaker 4>changes what you think is import important, changes your understanding

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<v Speaker 4>of why we might be here, you know, having this

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<v Speaker 4>sort of physical experience. But it's such a profound shift,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know again that that happens to a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of people, So it's yeah, I mean, I think we're

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<v Speaker 4>just so ready for this kind of thing because we're

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<v Speaker 4>we're in this society today and you know, we see

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<v Speaker 4>how things are going, and we're you know, we're always

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<v Speaker 4>kind of told that, you know, physical realities all there is,

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<v Speaker 4>Like science will tell us that, and consciousness is just

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<v Speaker 4>the byproduct of your brain. And when that's the case,

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<v Speaker 4>it sort of leads us to where we are. You

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<v Speaker 4>think of physical as all there is, and we're just

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<v Speaker 4>kind of here by accident. Well, it's it's survival of

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<v Speaker 4>the fittest, it's me versus you and us versus everyone else,

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<v Speaker 4>and we're all just here fighting with each other for survival,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, in resources or whatever it is. When you

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<v Speaker 4>realize that you're more than physical, it just it just

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<v Speaker 4>changes the whole perspective on this experience, and you tend

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<v Speaker 4>to move towards, you know, seeing others as a part

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<v Speaker 4>of yourself. You know, if we're all part of this

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<v Speaker 4>this you know, this single field of consciousness, it means

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<v Speaker 4>fundamentally we're all part of the same thing. And it's

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<v Speaker 4>not about it's not me versus you, it's how can

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<v Speaker 4>we sort of work together? It's how can we how

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<v Speaker 4>can we you know, kind of treat each other with

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<v Speaker 4>love and compassion instead of just you know, everything that's

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<v Speaker 4>going on in the world today.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I mean I just.

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<v Speaker 4>Again, for me, I can't I can't understate how how

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<v Speaker 4>significant that change has been and that shift has been

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<v Speaker 4>for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Same I would say. And so it's been two years

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<v Speaker 2>this June. Yeah, it was June that I went to

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<v Speaker 2>the I believe it was the first ever Creator Gateway

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<v Speaker 2>and that's where we met just for you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>listener's knowledge, and it was obviously for me, like whoever

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<v Speaker 2>is listening to this show. They know that it was

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<v Speaker 2>a profound life changing experience for me. But really, Paul,

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm finding with the Monroe experience as I'm getting

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<v Speaker 2>more programs under my belt experientially and running outreach programs

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<v Speaker 2>and you know what they say, it's like to teach

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<v Speaker 2>us to learn twice, you know for sure, and you

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<v Speaker 2>run the programs and then you hear all the feedback

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<v Speaker 2>from the people, and then coupled with you know, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a little unique. Most people aren't in the trainer position,

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<v Speaker 2>but with the training of how to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>guide people through this long story short, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I've had a very intimate connection with the experience over

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<v Speaker 2>the last two years that has so profoundly changed my life.

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<v Speaker 2>And I will say that going through not only the

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<v Speaker 2>program experientially, but through the training to become a trainer,

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<v Speaker 2>because what does that entail, right, It's being in close

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<v Speaker 2>contact with this on the daily.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and really getting deeply immersed in yeah kind of

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<v Speaker 4>the content and the history and the Methodist right right.

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<v Speaker 2>It has truly changed my life. I feel like this

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<v Speaker 2>whole process has informed how I, in a lot of ways,

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<v Speaker 2>view how I present myself to the world, if that

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense. And I've learned that the greatest part of

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<v Speaker 2>them in ROW experience is not even the week that

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<v Speaker 2>you're there, that's fantastic, but it's the rest of your

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<v Speaker 2>life after, you know, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>For sure, yep, yeah, you know, it's as people come

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<v Speaker 4>through programs when you you know, when you go through

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<v Speaker 4>this kind of shift in your in your belief system

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<v Speaker 4>and your values, it leads to a lot of change.

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<v Speaker 4>Like a lot of people find they realize, oh, they

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<v Speaker 4>didn't want to be in that job, you know, forever,

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<v Speaker 4>or they want to do something that they feel is

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<v Speaker 4>more aligned to you know, kind of what they want

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<v Speaker 4>to do and how they want to contribute to the world.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think, again, that's just such a great thing

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<v Speaker 4>for society to find a way, like for people to

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<v Speaker 4>find what their true passion is and really be able

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<v Speaker 4>to kind of pursue that. I think it's just a

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<v Speaker 4>really you know, kind of special.

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<v Speaker 2>Gift, something I think that should not be understated and

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<v Speaker 2>is such a profound part of the Monroe This is

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<v Speaker 2>just my words. It's obviously like not official ROW words,

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<v Speaker 2>but I say, like the Monroe system or the Monroe

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<v Speaker 2>process or whatever. Yeah, process, process, something that's so powerful

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<v Speaker 2>about it. And one of the reasons I think that

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<v Speaker 2>it's so prolific in the world today is because we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about experiential universal truth, but very strictly from a

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<v Speaker 2>lens of non dogma. Yeah, and I think this has

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<v Speaker 2>allowed it to become what it is today, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>with with a notion of being approachable by all. Does

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<v Speaker 2>that make it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, definitely, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think, you know, being non dogmatic, I think

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<v Speaker 4>is one of the things that makes Monroe pretty unique

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<v Speaker 4>because you know, the things that we're talking about that

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<v Speaker 4>were more than physical, Like, that's not a new idea,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, that's been around forever in all kinds of religions.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think you know, what to me is different

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<v Speaker 4>about Monroe is we're giving people like in the past,

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<v Speaker 4>you know whatever, a thousand years ago. I mean, we

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<v Speaker 4>had religions telling us this, and if you were a

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<v Speaker 4>yogi and could spend you know, ten years in a cave,

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<v Speaker 4>you could attain these states and kind of find these

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<v Speaker 4>things out for yourself. But what Monroe does is kind

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<v Speaker 4>of put those experiences within reach of anyone, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>kind of giving people access to these states of awareness

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<v Speaker 4>that otherwise you'd have to spend years meditating to reach that.

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<v Speaker 4>To me, I think is something really unique about this time.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, in human history, we've never you know, we've

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<v Speaker 4>never really been there. I mean, there have been plant

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<v Speaker 4>medicines as well, and those certainly help people access these states,

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<v Speaker 4>but generally, like those kinds of things, you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>think there are people who embrace that sort of thing,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's not really like a jet like I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>give that to my parents, right, I mean, there are

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<v Speaker 4>certain people that just don't want to go down the

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<v Speaker 4>plant medicine route, whereas putting on headphones is something that

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<v Speaker 4>I mean we all do all the time. Anyone can

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<v Speaker 4>It's more, you know, when you're using what we're providing,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's more like, you know, you're navigating your way

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<v Speaker 4>into these states of awareness, and it's much more in control,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, you can just stop at any time.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not like you're just along for a ride and

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<v Speaker 4>whatever happens happens, and you know, hopefully it's good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's so true. You know, Like I wrote

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<v Speaker 2>Gateway Voyage two or three times felt like d MT.

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's profound and and I think that Monroe serves

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<v Speaker 2>codify things scientific lens. We're talking about things that are

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<v Speaker 2>intimately very you know, we can say consciousness based, spiritual whatever, weird, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>And I think what Monroe does so well, and the

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<v Speaker 2>genius of the system is very efficient, efficiently and intimately

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<v Speaker 2>codifying the process for like you said, like, well, I

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<v Speaker 2>in the human mind. So it's just so effective. It's

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<v Speaker 2>it's honestly mind blowing. I could say here for an hour,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't want to waste your time. I could

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<v Speaker 4>d MT experience, a lot of times you may experiencing something,

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<v Speaker 4>you maybe experience something that is, you know, truly profound,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's like your awareness and your state of mind

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<v Speaker 4>Like it's so deep, your your ego dissolves, and you're

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<v Speaker 4>from that. I mean, it does happen, but certainly, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>to people, when you go to these states, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>again intentionally on your own through this deep meditation, you

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm speaking from my own experience when I'm in

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<v Speaker 4>I know that my body's in bed and I'm experiencing

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<v Speaker 4>some completely immersive, you know, realer than real kind of reality,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm exactly as I'm now. I still have my

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<v Speaker 4>to me is just mind blowing. Like that the first

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<v Speaker 4>time I had experiences like that, you know, there's.

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<v Speaker 3>No going back.

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<v Speaker 4>It made me realize that if this non physical reality

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<v Speaker 4>can feel as real as this, well it sort of

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of people think this isn't kind of the

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<v Speaker 4>base reality in other words, like consciousness is the fundamental

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<v Speaker 4>we experience together, you know, to have this physical experience.

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<v Speaker 4>But it proved to me that the richness of this

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<v Speaker 4>physical environment is not unique. There's a richness to other

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<v Speaker 4>non physical environments that can feel every bit as real

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<v Speaker 4>as this, and that I think is just totally interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so true, and that's a great point. I never

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<v Speaker 2>even like compared it to that or you know, made

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<v Speaker 2>that mental connection. But like for example, I had a

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<v Speaker 2>few experiences at Gateway, and of course I just want

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<v Speaker 2>to you know, give disclaimers for the listeners who haven't

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<v Speaker 2>enjoyed the process yet. Obviously it's different for everyone, and

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<v Speaker 2>everyone has their own unique things that unfold. But like

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<v Speaker 2>for me, I had an experience where it's like I

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<v Speaker 2>Native Americans thousands of years ago, temporal displacements where you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel as if I'm in the past. But even then,

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<v Speaker 2>like I knew it was me, and I was thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about how it relates to me now. Whereas like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>when you do some sort of substance, there's like that

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<v Speaker 2>dissolution of the ego and like you know, when you

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<v Speaker 2>spoke DMT or something like that. You have no clue

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<v Speaker 2>who you are, you know, and you have a hard

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<v Speaker 2>time integrating a lot of these things until after the fact.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's that's a good point. I never thought about that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the other thing that I want to add

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I do have a psychology degree, and I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't say that I'm scientifically minded by any stretch, but

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<v Speaker 2>I would say that I'm very logically and like a

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<v Speaker 2>the how and all this stuff, and it scratches all

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<v Speaker 2>of those itches. I mean, as you know, there's so

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<v Speaker 2>and they're like, oh my god. You know, I understand

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<v Speaker 2>there's a process here in the brain. But beyond that,

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<v Speaker 2>beyond all those barriers of proof that people typically need

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<v Speaker 2>I feel is the empowerment methods learned in the program

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to or any of the programs, really

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<v Speaker 2>all of them, to be able to switch through the

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<v Speaker 2>states effortlessly. Coming from someone who devoted all of my

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<v Speaker 2>and the mind and how these models work, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the neurology and all that stuff, and then having left

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<v Speaker 2>the monrostitute, it just completely changed my outlook on what

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, definitely yeap.

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<v Speaker 4>And what's cool the experiences you're talking about where you're

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<v Speaker 4>you're kind of seeing, you know, potentially these past life experiences.

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<v Speaker 4>Those are really interesting too, because you know, when that

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<v Speaker 4>happens to me, it's like you get a different you know,

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<v Speaker 4>what you think of as you is different. Right if

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<v Speaker 4>I am, this is all I ever will be, and

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<v Speaker 3>When you when you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Through that direct experience, that's not true, you know, what

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<v Speaker 4>Like you've had all these different lifetimes and there's this

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<v Speaker 4>bigger kind of story arc of you as as as

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<v Speaker 4>consciousness having these different experiences, living these different lifetimes for

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<v Speaker 4>the purpose of your own evolution. So you know, like

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<v Speaker 4>you can put this life experience in a perspective that

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<v Speaker 4>a thousand, who knows, you know, what what am I

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<v Speaker 3>Like what can I learn from this?

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<v Speaker 4>And when you approach it as like this this learning

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<v Speaker 4>way that you approach things. Like you may decide, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>this broader vision or this broader understanding of myself and

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<v Speaker 4>I have these multiple experiences, the goal can't be to

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<v Speaker 4>to get rid of at the end of your life

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<v Speaker 4>experience anyway. So again, the things that are important to

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<v Speaker 4>you and the kinds of experiences that you seek or

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<v Speaker 4>the things that you value in life, that to me

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<v Speaker 4>changed a lot. You know, I started to value experiences

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<v Speaker 4>and relationships more than you know, things like I can

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<v Speaker 4>learn from experiences, I can I can learn from relationships.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, having a bunch of stuff is kind of

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<v Speaker 3>You know. Again in this context of having these multiple

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<v Speaker 2>It's profound. I've I've had similar you know, realizations myself.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think it hits every one of us differently,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, it's it's like my words, not Monroe's,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's like we all have that different karma, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the things that we have to figure out. But like

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<v Speaker 2>realized coming let me just explain it like this. So

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<v Speaker 2>less like known around the world for exhibiting psychic abilities

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<v Speaker 2>and things like that. So me personally, I grew up

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<v Speaker 2>with a complex thinking that, well, surely that's not me.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't have anything like this or anything

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<v Speaker 2>going on. And like I went to my Gateway and

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<v Speaker 2>that at every Gateway. My group was a really different

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<v Speaker 2>okay cool and in my interview Maya, wonderful human being,

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful trainer. She was like, you know, what, what's your intention?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you what do you want out of this?

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<v Speaker 2>And I was just like, you know, I'm just here

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<v Speaker 2>to experience and to learn. Because I called my dad,

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<v Speaker 2>I called my sister, and both of them, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>had already been to Monroe a couple of times, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like through the History Channel and other things, and I

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<v Speaker 2>be open. And I was like, okay. So I told Maya.

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<v Speaker 2>I personally don't believe that I can go out of

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<v Speaker 2>body or anything like that, but I'm open to it.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, that's not why I'm here. I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>here to have a good time and to learn. And

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<v Speaker 2>People can hear that on my three part series, but

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<v Speaker 2>understanding of me, you know, And I was forever changed

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<v Speaker 2>to where now I don't even know the words for this,

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<v Speaker 2>happen that it's like unprompted, and you know, and it's good,

418
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<v Speaker 2>it's positive. It's something that I enjoy and that I

419
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<v Speaker 2>was seeking. But the point is, it's like that complex

420
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<v Speaker 2>was dissolved, something that throughout my life I struggled with

421
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<v Speaker 2>so bad. I'm not special, I don't have abilities. I

422
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<v Speaker 2>can't do this, I can't do that. Went there for

423
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<v Speaker 2>a week, experienced it for myself, and I was forever

424
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<v Speaker 2>altered in like, you know, the sky's the limit. Now

425
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<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, well, I want to learn about this.

426
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<v Speaker 2>I want to learn about this. This is possible. You

427
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<v Speaker 2>can do this too. Now I want to help people

428
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<v Speaker 2>do it too, and you know, be a trainer. And

429
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<v Speaker 2>I know that's not the experience for everybody, but.

430
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, well that's great. I mean it's yeah, yeah,

431
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<v Speaker 3>it is. Again, I think we've been saying the same.

432
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<v Speaker 3>It really does change.

433
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<v Speaker 2>You, Yeah, yeah, it does. I'm curious, like about your

434
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<v Speaker 2>journey becoming your role for the institute chief Technology Officer

435
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<v Speaker 2>and executive vice president because that's incredible. And you know,

436
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<v Speaker 2>I did an episode with Alan and we went into

437
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<v Speaker 2>all that and heard her story. But I'd like to

438
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<v Speaker 2>kind of hear your story, like how you got to

439
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<v Speaker 2>be where you are?

440
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, sure, Well, I you know, I could say I've

441
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<v Speaker 4>always kind of been a seeker, you know, even as

442
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<v Speaker 4>a child. I think, you know, I was always interested

443
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<v Speaker 4>in kind of the paranormal, you know, in my teens,

444
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<v Speaker 4>deeply interested in like remote viewing and like you know

445
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<v Speaker 4>UFOs you know at the times what we call them,

446
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<v Speaker 4>and so like all those things were really interesting to me,

447
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<v Speaker 4>and I always felt like that that's where that's where

448
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<v Speaker 4>we really learned something, like all those things that we

449
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<v Speaker 4>can't explain and don't understand, like that's that's where the

450
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<v Speaker 4>real learning, you know, can take place because it's you know,

451
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<v Speaker 4>we don't have explanations for these things. So I've always

452
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<v Speaker 4>been interested in all of that stuff, and I you know,

453
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<v Speaker 4>I didn't feel like religion gave me the answers I

454
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<v Speaker 4>was looking for.

455
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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's great.

456
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<v Speaker 4>I mean for many people, it really you know, is

457
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<v Speaker 4>very helpful and it you know, if it helps you

458
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<v Speaker 4>be a better person, that's fantastic and there's nothing wrong

459
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<v Speaker 4>with religion. But for me, I didn't find, you know,

460
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<v Speaker 4>the answers, and I'm I'm very left brained, you know.

461
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<v Speaker 4>I ended up getting into software engineering, so I always

462
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<v Speaker 4>wanted to know, like, well, why does it work that way?

463
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<v Speaker 4>Or how how does it work? And I didn't find

464
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<v Speaker 4>a lot of those answers, you know, going down that path.

465
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<v Speaker 4>So always been interested into in this stuff. And I

466
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<v Speaker 4>think I first read well, I was really interested in

467
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<v Speaker 4>remote viewing. And then I remember reading I forget which

468
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<v Speaker 4>book it was, but they were talking about some of

469
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<v Speaker 4>the remote viewers went to them in Roe Institute to

470
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<v Speaker 4>learn how to become remote viewers.

471
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<v Speaker 3>I was like, wow, that's amazing.

472
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<v Speaker 4>So then I from there I kind of got into

473
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<v Speaker 4>you know, Bob and Roe's books and read those probably

474
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<v Speaker 4>in my late teens early twenties, and that just blew

475
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<v Speaker 4>my mind, you know, I I to me, you know,

476
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<v Speaker 4>I couldn't imagine like why this wasn't like news, Like

477
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<v Speaker 4>why why is everyone not talking about this? Like this

478
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<v Speaker 4>is so like to know that you can leave your body.

479
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<v Speaker 4>It just violates everything we think we know about physics

480
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<v Speaker 4>and how our you know, bodies and consciousness works. I

481
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<v Speaker 4>just thought it was like the most important thing ever,

482
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<v Speaker 4>and I, you know, I tried. I kind of dabbled

483
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<v Speaker 4>in remote viewing at the time and kind of you know,

484
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<v Speaker 4>got into trying some of the out of body stuff,

485
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<v Speaker 4>but I didn't I didn't have the resources at the

486
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<v Speaker 4>time to like, you know, buy the CDs and really kind.

487
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<v Speaker 3>Of you know, do it that way.

488
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<v Speaker 4>So that kind of continued, and then I got into

489
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<v Speaker 4>kind of career and family and got busy with that stuff,

490
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<v Speaker 4>and I started my current you know, software engineering.

491
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<v Speaker 3>That was my whole career.

492
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<v Speaker 4>So I started in like big corporate it and then

493
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<v Speaker 4>left that and started getting into startups. So I did

494
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<v Speaker 4>a series of startups either kind of as a founder

495
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<v Speaker 4>as CTO, and it was then when I had the

496
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<v Speaker 4>time and energy to kind of really get back into

497
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<v Speaker 4>this whole, this whole consciousness thing. It was kind of

498
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<v Speaker 4>on the side for a while, and I decided, like

499
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<v Speaker 4>I really want to know if if what this, you know,

500
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<v Speaker 4>what Bob and Roe is talking about is like legit,

501
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<v Speaker 4>if that's real. So I decided like I'm going to

502
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<v Speaker 4>try to do this and I and I got you know,

503
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<v Speaker 4>the the the exercises to take the CDs.

504
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<v Speaker 3>And started working my way through it.

505
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<v Speaker 4>So I would do you like, work through the gateway,

506
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<v Speaker 4>you know, experience, and do like one one exercise every day.

507
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<v Speaker 4>And I kept doing that for months, and I would

508
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<v Speaker 4>kind of, you know, go back and repeat things, and I,

509
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<v Speaker 4>you know, I kind of really tried to get into it,

510
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<v Speaker 4>and I was trying so hard to have the experience

511
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<v Speaker 4>that Bob wrote about so like and it's it's so

512
00:25:05.319 --> 00:25:08.279
<v Speaker 4>funny because I was just getting in my own way,

513
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<v Speaker 4>like so I know this.

514
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<v Speaker 2>Now, hold, I let me get you a drink here,

515
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<v Speaker 2>Oh good idea.

516
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<v Speaker 3>I was. I was just getting in my own way

517
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<v Speaker 3>with all of these expectations and expecting to like peel

518
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<v Speaker 3>out of my body, and every time something happened, I'm like,

519
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<v Speaker 3>oh am I going out? Like am I feeling?

520
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<v Speaker 4>I was analyzing the experience the entire time, and that's

521
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<v Speaker 4>like the worst thing you can do.

522
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<v Speaker 3>That just that just blocks it.

523
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<v Speaker 4>So anyway that I was doing these during the day

524
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<v Speaker 4>and nothing was happening when I was doing the exercises,

525
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<v Speaker 4>But what started happening to me at night was That's

526
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<v Speaker 4>when I'd have these experiences. And for me, it started

527
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<v Speaker 4>with lucid dreams like I just would spontaneously find myself

528
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<v Speaker 4>aware in this dream environment and you know again like

529
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<v Speaker 4>feeling like, oh my gosh, I'm like I'm in this

530
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<v Speaker 4>dream environment. I know that it's a dream, but it's

531
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<v Speaker 4>like it's every bit as real as waking reality, and

532
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<v Speaker 4>it almost kind of like feels more real. And so

533
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<v Speaker 4>that's where it began for me, and then from there

534
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<v Speaker 4>I just kind of got deeper into that and continued,

535
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<v Speaker 4>you know, kind of exploring those experiences and I ended

536
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<v Speaker 4>up having the you know, a lot of the classic

537
00:26:10.680 --> 00:26:14.559
<v Speaker 4>peel out of your body experiences, but for me, a

538
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<v Speaker 4>lot of the most interesting experiences were you know, through

539
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<v Speaker 4>you know, I think what Bob would call phasing. You know,

540
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<v Speaker 4>like when when Bob talked about his early efforts, it

541
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<v Speaker 4>was the physical like I'm peeling out of my body,

542
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<v Speaker 4>I stand next to myself, I go fly over somewhere else.

543
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<v Speaker 4>And then later, you know, in his explorations, he talked

544
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<v Speaker 4>about this phasing model where it's like you're kind of

545
00:26:33.480 --> 00:26:36.799
<v Speaker 4>turning off one, you know, one you two, you're tuning

546
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<v Speaker 4>the dial on a radio, like it's my awareness is here,

547
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<v Speaker 4>and then you know, my awareness can be there.

548
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<v Speaker 3>So for me, it started manifesting.

549
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<v Speaker 4>As like I'd be lying in bed, you know, I'm

550
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<v Speaker 4>going to sleep, and I'm aware, and then I see

551
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<v Speaker 4>like a scene kind of forming, and then I'm just

552
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<v Speaker 4>kind of like it's almost like teleporting, Like the scene

553
00:26:54.880 --> 00:26:58.039
<v Speaker 4>starts to build and I go from like being awake

554
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<v Speaker 4>in my bed to like now just.

555
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<v Speaker 3>Being immersed this alternate reality in this scene.

556
00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:05.279
<v Speaker 4>And those kinds of experiences again just blew me away

557
00:27:05.279 --> 00:27:08.400
<v Speaker 4>because it's it was literally like just teleporting from my

558
00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:12.359
<v Speaker 4>bed into like a whole nother reality, which was really cool.

559
00:27:12.599 --> 00:27:14.920
<v Speaker 3>And so again I just exploring those things.

560
00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:17.799
<v Speaker 4>I mean, all kinds of experience, you know, I journaled

561
00:27:17.799 --> 00:27:20.160
<v Speaker 4>them for a long time. I've stopped journaling at this point,

562
00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:23.640
<v Speaker 4>but all kinds of stuff that proved to me beyond

563
00:27:23.720 --> 00:27:25.960
<v Speaker 4>any doubt that I was more than physical and that

564
00:27:26.039 --> 00:27:28.559
<v Speaker 4>the things that I were experiencing, you know, had some

565
00:27:28.720 --> 00:27:31.519
<v Speaker 4>reality to them. And I think one of the most

566
00:27:31.519 --> 00:27:38.680
<v Speaker 4>interesting and kind of verifying experiences for me was I

567
00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:40.319
<v Speaker 4>we were on vacation at the time, and I had

568
00:27:40.359 --> 00:27:43.759
<v Speaker 4>two daughters at this point, and we were together in

569
00:27:43.880 --> 00:27:46.599
<v Speaker 4>a room were vacation, so sleeping all the same room,

570
00:27:46.720 --> 00:27:49.799
<v Speaker 4>and you know, I had this really amazing experience where

571
00:27:50.359 --> 00:27:53.920
<v Speaker 4>I ended up being in this like tropical kind of

572
00:27:54.000 --> 00:27:56.680
<v Speaker 4>like water environment. So I'm in this tropical environment and

573
00:27:56.680 --> 00:27:58.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm swimming under the water while kind of flying. So

574
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<v Speaker 4>I'm kind of flying around into the water and checking

575
00:28:01.559 --> 00:28:03.599
<v Speaker 4>things out and seeing kind of like coral and whatever

576
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:06.880
<v Speaker 4>animals there. And then out of nowhere, this dolphin comes

577
00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:09.599
<v Speaker 4>like swimming up next to me, and I'm like, oh, cool,

578
00:28:09.640 --> 00:28:11.319
<v Speaker 4>a dolphin. So I'm kind of flying around and this

579
00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:13.920
<v Speaker 4>dolphin is swimming next to me, and I'm just you know,

580
00:28:14.000 --> 00:28:16.000
<v Speaker 4>doing whatever, having a good time. This dolphin is really

581
00:28:16.039 --> 00:28:19.000
<v Speaker 4>sticking with me, like right next to my side. And

582
00:28:19.079 --> 00:28:21.720
<v Speaker 4>this experience goes on for a while, and then eventually

583
00:28:21.799 --> 00:28:23.599
<v Speaker 4>I kind of come out of it and I come

584
00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:26.240
<v Speaker 4>right from that experience, which is typically happens to me.

585
00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:28.359
<v Speaker 4>I come right from that experience, and then like my

586
00:28:28.440 --> 00:28:30.640
<v Speaker 4>awareness starts to shift back to my body and then

587
00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:32.480
<v Speaker 4>like oh, okay, now I'm back, and it just kind

588
00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:34.480
<v Speaker 4>of transitions, you know, right back to being in the bed.

589
00:28:35.400 --> 00:28:36.240
<v Speaker 3>And it was the morning.

590
00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:38.599
<v Speaker 4>So I wake up in the morning and I get

591
00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:41.480
<v Speaker 4>up kind of sit up in bed, and my daughter's there,

592
00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:43.440
<v Speaker 4>you know, in the room, and she kind of gets.

593
00:28:43.319 --> 00:28:45.920
<v Speaker 3>Up at the same time, and I said, hey, you know,

594
00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:46.440
<v Speaker 3>how's it going.

595
00:28:46.440 --> 00:28:48.079
<v Speaker 4>I just had this really awesome dream And she said,

596
00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:49.720
<v Speaker 4>oh my god, I had this amazing dream where I

597
00:28:49.759 --> 00:28:51.240
<v Speaker 4>was a dolphin and we were together and I was

598
00:28:51.240 --> 00:28:53.279
<v Speaker 4>swimming next to you, and we were doing all these

599
00:28:53.279 --> 00:28:57.160
<v Speaker 4>things underwater, and like we we had a shared experience.

600
00:28:57.319 --> 00:28:59.160
<v Speaker 4>There's no doubt in my mind, there's no And she

601
00:28:59.279 --> 00:29:01.079
<v Speaker 4>was like six or so at the time, so it's

602
00:29:01.079 --> 00:29:03.119
<v Speaker 4>not like she would just make up this kind of thing.

603
00:29:04.119 --> 00:29:06.079
<v Speaker 4>We were there and we had an experience together, and

604
00:29:06.119 --> 00:29:08.759
<v Speaker 4>we woke up from it at the same time and

605
00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:10.880
<v Speaker 4>kind of told each other about this experience. So like

606
00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:14.039
<v Speaker 4>that was one of the experiences that kind of sealed

607
00:29:14.039 --> 00:29:15.839
<v Speaker 4>the deal for me. Like there's no way that that

608
00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:18.359
<v Speaker 4>was just some kind of coincidence, Like there is a

609
00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:24.119
<v Speaker 4>reality to these these non physical experiences. Yeah, So that

610
00:29:24.519 --> 00:29:27.119
<v Speaker 4>like set me, you know, as I've had a number

611
00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:29.440
<v Speaker 4>of these experiences now, like that just set me on

612
00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:33.160
<v Speaker 4>a different path. And so kind of doing a series

613
00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:35.880
<v Speaker 4>of startups, and at the end of the last startup

614
00:29:35.880 --> 00:29:37.759
<v Speaker 4>that I was working on, my wife and I decided

615
00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:39.759
<v Speaker 4>we were ready to do something different and we sold

616
00:29:39.759 --> 00:29:42.279
<v Speaker 4>everything that we own and we moved onto a sailboat

617
00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:45.880
<v Speaker 4>and homeschooled our two girls. And your intention was to

618
00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:47.880
<v Speaker 4>do this kind of as a sabbatical for like a year,

619
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<v Speaker 4>and it ended up being four years.

620
00:29:49.960 --> 00:29:50.119
<v Speaker 3>You know.

621
00:29:50.200 --> 00:29:52.319
<v Speaker 4>So for four years we lived on this sailboat, mostly

622
00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:54.240
<v Speaker 4>in the Bahamas. We'd spend like eight months of the

623
00:29:54.319 --> 00:29:56.039
<v Speaker 4>year kind of sailing around the Bahamas and then come

624
00:29:56.079 --> 00:29:59.720
<v Speaker 4>back to Florida for hurricane season. And during that time

625
00:29:59.799 --> 00:30:01.200
<v Speaker 4>I was kind of I took some time off. I

626
00:30:01.480 --> 00:30:02.759
<v Speaker 4>didn't work for two of those years, and then I

627
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<v Speaker 4>was doing some consulting during that time as well. But

628
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<v Speaker 4>coming out of that, this is getting back to the

629
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<v Speaker 4>Monroe story. Coming out of that, I realized, with all

630
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<v Speaker 4>of the experiences that I've had and the way that

631
00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:17.599
<v Speaker 4>I kind of think about my experience here, I couldn't

632
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<v Speaker 4>just go back to like a normal like, oh, let's

633
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<v Speaker 4>go do another startup, or let's go work, you know,

634
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<v Speaker 4>at a fintech company or something like. It had no

635
00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:28.599
<v Speaker 4>appeal to me, like whatsoever. So I knew I had

636
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<v Speaker 4>to do something that I really believed in. And during COVID,

637
00:30:32.519 --> 00:30:34.839
<v Speaker 4>we're actually on the boat during COVID when the lockdowns happened.

638
00:30:34.880 --> 00:30:37.039
<v Speaker 4>I started working on this this kind of side project

639
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<v Speaker 4>that was a kind of a like a pay it

640
00:30:40.480 --> 00:30:43.519
<v Speaker 4>forward fundraising platform, so you'd like perform acts of kindness

641
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<v Speaker 4>for people and you could donate to charity to thank

642
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<v Speaker 4>someone for doing that. And I approached Monroe as one

643
00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:50.799
<v Speaker 4>of the charities. I was like, oh, you know, Monroe's great,

644
00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:54.359
<v Speaker 4>So I approached them and that began the conversation with

645
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<v Speaker 4>Monroe because as I started talking with the folks there,

646
00:30:57.720 --> 00:30:59.920
<v Speaker 4>that was at a time when you know, again kind

647
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<v Speaker 4>of mid pandemic. Campus had been shut down and they

648
00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:04.160
<v Speaker 4>were trying to figure out, like, how do we take

649
00:31:04.200 --> 00:31:07.440
<v Speaker 4>what we do in these residential retreats and bring that online,

650
00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:09.079
<v Speaker 4>you know, bring that to the to people in a

651
00:31:09.079 --> 00:31:12.759
<v Speaker 4>different way. And there wasn't really anyone on the staff

652
00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:15.039
<v Speaker 4>at the time who had a deep technology background, so

653
00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:17.960
<v Speaker 4>it was like perfect timing, you know. I started there

654
00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:20.119
<v Speaker 4>just kind of consulting first to help them formulate the

655
00:31:20.160 --> 00:31:22.599
<v Speaker 4>strategy around how to use technology to really kind of

656
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<v Speaker 4>over the mission.

657
00:31:25.039 --> 00:31:25.839
<v Speaker 3>And it grew from there.

658
00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:28.480
<v Speaker 4>You know, we kind of created this vision for the

659
00:31:28.519 --> 00:31:30.359
<v Speaker 4>expand app that was kind of one of the first

660
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<v Speaker 4>big things that were really focused on and then we

661
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<v Speaker 4>kind of went to the board, got approval, we went

662
00:31:35.440 --> 00:31:37.440
<v Speaker 4>out and we fundraised for it and had a donor

663
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<v Speaker 4>on the spot gave us a million dollars to basically

664
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<v Speaker 4>go after you know, building this app and starting this

665
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<v Speaker 4>whole growth initiative.

666
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:45.400
<v Speaker 3>And that's where it began.

667
00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:48.039
<v Speaker 4>So I came on, you know, from a technology standpoint,

668
00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:51.240
<v Speaker 4>and then and then my role has kind of expanded

669
00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:53.480
<v Speaker 4>since then, So now I focus on our overall kind

670
00:31:53.480 --> 00:31:57.279
<v Speaker 4>of growth strategy, so I oversee marketing and fundraising as

671
00:31:57.319 --> 00:32:00.119
<v Speaker 4>well as like some of our strategic partnerships and collaborations.

672
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:03.359
<v Speaker 4>So now you know, I get to focus on like

673
00:32:03.400 --> 00:32:05.440
<v Speaker 4>how do we how do we get this out there?

674
00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:07.319
<v Speaker 4>Like that's the most exciting thing to me, is like

675
00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:12.119
<v Speaker 4>how do we help more people have these experiences that

676
00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:14.839
<v Speaker 4>that changed their you know, their their worldview, change their

677
00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:18.000
<v Speaker 4>value system. And so yeah, that's what we've been doing

678
00:32:18.079 --> 00:32:21.160
<v Speaker 4>ever since. And it's been a crazy ride. I mean,

679
00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:26.240
<v Speaker 4>it's been incredibly personally rewarding. I think it's probably you know,

680
00:32:26.640 --> 00:32:30.599
<v Speaker 4>obviously the part that kind of sticks with me. I feel,

681
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:34.279
<v Speaker 4>you know, privileged and lucky that I get to help

682
00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:37.480
<v Speaker 4>people have this kind of experience and see this kind

683
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:41.200
<v Speaker 4>of shift in their own lives, and uh, and that's

684
00:32:41.200 --> 00:32:41.759
<v Speaker 4>been amazing.

685
00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:45.440
<v Speaker 2>I feel the same way. And you just hit a

686
00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:49.920
<v Speaker 2>lot of really amazing points that I naturally was, you know,

687
00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:52.319
<v Speaker 2>wanting to bring up at certain times so we can

688
00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:55.559
<v Speaker 2>address them. But sure, Yeah, something you talked about that

689
00:32:55.640 --> 00:33:00.279
<v Speaker 2>was really amazing was the radio dial because I think

690
00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:04.720
<v Speaker 2>from the outside looking in just so like just imagine

691
00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:06.599
<v Speaker 2>the most ordinary person at home they read on the

692
00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:09.200
<v Speaker 2>internet about out a body they've never like tried or anything,

693
00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:11.720
<v Speaker 2>and they're like, oh, you know, in their head, they

694
00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:14.559
<v Speaker 2>have probably this picture of like you're either in your

695
00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:16.640
<v Speaker 2>body or you're out, and it's like you know, Casper,

696
00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:18.720
<v Speaker 2>he goes through the wall. But it's it's really not

697
00:33:18.839 --> 00:33:20.839
<v Speaker 2>like that. It's a lot more complex, and it's like

698
00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:24.880
<v Speaker 2>what Paul described, and everything Paul was describing is how

699
00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:26.279
<v Speaker 2>it happens to me too, where it's like you just

700
00:33:26.359 --> 00:33:28.359
<v Speaker 2>kind of fade out and the scene builds and then

701
00:33:28.400 --> 00:33:30.680
<v Speaker 2>it's just like you're there and it could be that,

702
00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:34.279
<v Speaker 2>or it could be the other thing, or it could

703
00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:37.039
<v Speaker 2>be you know, you're seeing from three perspectives. It wants

704
00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:40.440
<v Speaker 2>in different locations, by location, trylocation. It's such a complex

705
00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:44.200
<v Speaker 2>phenomenon that like, I think it's worth deep study and exploration,

706
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:50.839
<v Speaker 2>and you know, it's fascinating. It's it's mind boggling, mind boggling.

707
00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:53.839
<v Speaker 2>That's a hard word. That's it's mind boggling to see

708
00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:56.160
<v Speaker 2>how complex it really is. That it's not just you

709
00:33:56.200 --> 00:33:59.240
<v Speaker 2>know what we think it is that that it's more

710
00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:00.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, yeah.

711
00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:02.240
<v Speaker 3>That's a that's a great point. I mean consciousness.

712
00:34:02.519 --> 00:34:04.720
<v Speaker 4>You know, you think of this larger kind of reality

713
00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:07.119
<v Speaker 4>where consciousness is fundamental and you've got all these different

714
00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:09.360
<v Speaker 4>kind of experiences we can have. It's it's yeah, it's

715
00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:13.519
<v Speaker 4>an incredibly rich, you know, kind of environment. I guess

716
00:34:13.559 --> 00:34:16.800
<v Speaker 4>you could call it there and I think so much

717
00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:18.679
<v Speaker 4>of it when you like we we we're here in

718
00:34:18.679 --> 00:34:21.199
<v Speaker 4>this physical reality, and like the way that we measure

719
00:34:21.239 --> 00:34:24.039
<v Speaker 4>things is like everything is objective, Like you and I

720
00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:25.880
<v Speaker 4>have the exactly if we're sitting in the room together,

721
00:34:25.920 --> 00:34:28.239
<v Speaker 4>we have exactly the same experience, like we agree, like

722
00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:30.239
<v Speaker 4>there's a table here, and there's a light there, like

723
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:34.480
<v Speaker 4>whatever there is, Like it's it's very strictly objective like

724
00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:36.920
<v Speaker 4>there there isn't really any difference. So what you see

725
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:39.679
<v Speaker 4>is what I see in my experience when you get

726
00:34:39.719 --> 00:34:43.480
<v Speaker 4>into the non physical, that same kind of strict objectivity

727
00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:46.559
<v Speaker 4>doesn't quite exist. So like that's why it can be

728
00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:49.000
<v Speaker 4>different for everybody. So like we may be in the

729
00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:53.280
<v Speaker 4>same place in the non physical and you might experience

730
00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:56.360
<v Speaker 4>it as you know, like like a warehouse, and for

731
00:34:56.440 --> 00:34:58.320
<v Speaker 4>me it's like, you know, something a little different. It's

732
00:34:58.360 --> 00:35:01.000
<v Speaker 4>like a storage room in a bil or something like that.

733
00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:03.440
<v Speaker 4>But so it's like we can experience the same thing

734
00:35:03.440 --> 00:35:05.199
<v Speaker 4>and being the same place, but there's a lot more

735
00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:08.840
<v Speaker 4>subjectivity in this environment because you're in the non physical,

736
00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:13.039
<v Speaker 4>like you're in this thought responsive environment. So your mindset,

737
00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:15.519
<v Speaker 4>your beliefs, and your thoughts I think play a much

738
00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:19.119
<v Speaker 4>bigger role in shaping what that reality looks like. And

739
00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:21.599
<v Speaker 4>it's it's fascinating, like you get I love getting deep

740
00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:23.440
<v Speaker 4>into this because I'm a technologist, so I kind of

741
00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:26.920
<v Speaker 4>think of consciousness as a technology and try to kind

742
00:35:26.920 --> 00:35:28.039
<v Speaker 4>of tease out, well, how does.

743
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:30.199
<v Speaker 3>This technology work? You know, like how does how's it

744
00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:32.840
<v Speaker 3>all put together? I just I just I find it

745
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:33.679
<v Speaker 3>really fascinating.

746
00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:36.079
<v Speaker 2>We just did an episode on the Tibetan Book of

747
00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:38.960
<v Speaker 2>the Dead, and oh yeah, I'm not sure, you know,

748
00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:40.400
<v Speaker 2>like have you read it or are you familiar with

749
00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:41.360
<v Speaker 2>the concept.

750
00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:42.719
<v Speaker 3>I have, Like, yeah, I think I got through most

751
00:35:42.760 --> 00:35:44.119
<v Speaker 3>of it. I can't remember if I finished it.

752
00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:47.039
<v Speaker 2>I just threw it on YouTube and listened right. But no,

753
00:35:47.159 --> 00:35:50.199
<v Speaker 2>it's very fascinating because it's like what you're describing the

754
00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:53.679
<v Speaker 2>the you said it's thought responsive. The whole Tibetan Book

755
00:35:53.679 --> 00:35:55.960
<v Speaker 2>of the Dead thing, for example, is like, you know,

756
00:35:56.119 --> 00:35:59.679
<v Speaker 2>when when you die and you go into the Bardo layers,

757
00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:03.800
<v Speaker 2>that things that you experience are projections from your thought.

758
00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:06.360
<v Speaker 2>And I thought that was very cool that there was

759
00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:09.760
<v Speaker 2>parallels there to so many other things, including like Robert

760
00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:13.280
<v Speaker 2>Monroe's experience and so many others going into these non

761
00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:18.159
<v Speaker 2>physical realities. And you know, I like that or thought responsive,

762
00:36:18.199 --> 00:36:21.119
<v Speaker 2>I'll start using that. But yeah, it's crazy. I almost

763
00:36:21.159 --> 00:36:24.079
<v Speaker 2>feel like we're in the same location. Maybe for you

764
00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:25.840
<v Speaker 2>it's a warehouse, maybe for me it's a park or

765
00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:30.400
<v Speaker 2>a club or something. But it's maybe because that that

766
00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:34.320
<v Speaker 2>that thought form is a response that would be comfortable

767
00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:36.840
<v Speaker 2>for me, or it comes from me or whatever. It's

768
00:36:36.880 --> 00:36:39.079
<v Speaker 2>not so objective. But then when you were saying that,

769
00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:41.119
<v Speaker 2>I had the thought, even if we are in the

770
00:36:41.159 --> 00:36:44.119
<v Speaker 2>physical reality and we're sitting in the same room and

771
00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:47.079
<v Speaker 2>we watch a movie. Did we have the same objective experience?

772
00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:50.039
<v Speaker 2>Maybe not, because maybe I was sad and you were happy,

773
00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:53.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe yeah.

774
00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:55.360
<v Speaker 4>Oh, things like that, you know, the Mandela effect where

775
00:36:55.400 --> 00:36:58.719
<v Speaker 4>you know, it's I mean, it's interesting. I mean there's

776
00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:01.400
<v Speaker 4>a lot of I don't know's, there's all kinds of

777
00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:03.519
<v Speaker 4>stuff swirling around about the whole Mendel effect thing. But

778
00:37:03.559 --> 00:37:05.639
<v Speaker 4>you could you could say, I mean, maybe that is

779
00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:09.480
<v Speaker 4>literally people are having different experiences because there is like,

780
00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:13.119
<v Speaker 4>you know, multiple versions of this reality. I mean, who knows,

781
00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:15.280
<v Speaker 4>But it's it's interesting that there are parallels in that

782
00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:17.440
<v Speaker 4>in the non physical. So like if if the non

783
00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:20.440
<v Speaker 4>physical it works that way that there can be subjectivity

784
00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:23.039
<v Speaker 4>even though you're kind of in the subjective real place.

785
00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:25.960
<v Speaker 4>Maybe this reality is just kind of a subset of that,

786
00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:29.360
<v Speaker 4>and maybe sometimes that underlying structure like leaks through into

787
00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:29.920
<v Speaker 4>this reality.

788
00:37:29.960 --> 00:37:31.840
<v Speaker 3>We start to see, you know, some of that kind

789
00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:33.519
<v Speaker 3>of behavior. Yeah, who knows.

790
00:37:33.760 --> 00:37:40.199
<v Speaker 2>That's fascinating. There are quantum physics studies, experiments, whatever you

791
00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:43.159
<v Speaker 2>want to call them, coming out now that are suggesting

792
00:37:43.320 --> 00:37:50.000
<v Speaker 2>that behavior in the present can alter experiences and memories

793
00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:53.000
<v Speaker 2>of the past, which is actually you know, as you know,

794
00:37:53.159 --> 00:37:58.880
<v Speaker 2>something that can happen during monroe'situte programs. My sister experienced it.

795
00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:04.599
<v Speaker 2>I've experienced it. People in my outreach program this month

796
00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:07.480
<v Speaker 2>or no, no, it was in January, my most recent program.

797
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:11.519
<v Speaker 2>They experienced it. Where you can have some sort of

798
00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:16.280
<v Speaker 2>experience in an expanded state that more or less like

799
00:38:16.639 --> 00:38:19.559
<v Speaker 2>changes your I don't know how to say it eloquently,

800
00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:23.760
<v Speaker 2>but like changes your emotional response to old memory patterns

801
00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:27.599
<v Speaker 2>and traumatic events and things. And it's like, you know,

802
00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:30.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't think we're anywhere close to understanding how this

803
00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:34.760
<v Speaker 2>stuff works. It's so profound, it's so amazing. And then

804
00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:37.719
<v Speaker 2>the other point that you brought up when you were

805
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:40.079
<v Speaker 2>telling your story about how you got into this position,

806
00:38:40.320 --> 00:38:42.440
<v Speaker 2>and it's kind of like one of the most important

807
00:38:42.440 --> 00:38:45.480
<v Speaker 2>things that I wanted to talk about tonight was you

808
00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:49.079
<v Speaker 2>were explaining that in the early days of beginning your

809
00:38:49.639 --> 00:38:51.960
<v Speaker 2>process with the Minroe programs, that you were listening to

810
00:38:51.960 --> 00:38:55.519
<v Speaker 2>the CDs through the waves, and then you were talking

811
00:38:55.519 --> 00:38:58.480
<v Speaker 2>about how during COVID you came in and you were

812
00:38:58.599 --> 00:39:01.239
<v Speaker 2>more or less consulting, how do we expand this to

813
00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:04.280
<v Speaker 2>where we can still operate during the pandemic and naturally

814
00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:09.440
<v Speaker 2>you guys moved into virtual programs. Well, now, as I

815
00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:14.000
<v Speaker 2>understand it, there's something new that is a part of

816
00:39:14.039 --> 00:39:19.519
<v Speaker 2>the Monurostitute experience that I really think is so profound,

817
00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:22.119
<v Speaker 2>it's so amazing, and I think you know what I'm

818
00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:22.719
<v Speaker 2>talking about.

819
00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:24.199
<v Speaker 3>I do. Yep.

820
00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:29.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we have just launched our Gateway online self guided

821
00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:32.840
<v Speaker 4>like video based program. So this this is a bit

822
00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:35.440
<v Speaker 4>of a new direction. We've done online before, Like that's

823
00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:38.719
<v Speaker 4>not new. But what's new about this is a couple

824
00:39:38.719 --> 00:39:42.559
<v Speaker 4>of things. One, it's truly self guided, so it's video

825
00:39:42.599 --> 00:39:45.320
<v Speaker 4>instruction and we've got you know, Alan and Luigi, you know,

826
00:39:45.320 --> 00:39:47.920
<v Speaker 4>two of our best trainers who have basically kind of

827
00:39:48.119 --> 00:39:51.320
<v Speaker 4>you know, put this video together. And what's also interesting

828
00:39:51.320 --> 00:39:54.760
<v Speaker 4>about it is it's based on the residential Gateway experience.

829
00:39:54.800 --> 00:39:56.760
<v Speaker 4>This is also new. This has never been done before.

830
00:39:56.840 --> 00:40:00.239
<v Speaker 4>So it's the same exercises in the same force format

831
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:02.400
<v Speaker 4>as you get in the residential Gateway, like when you

832
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<v Speaker 4>buy the Wave CDs. That was intent that was created

833
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<v Speaker 4>to be kind of a commercial product. It's a bit

834
00:40:06.760 --> 00:40:09.079
<v Speaker 4>of a different kind of flow, same focus levels, but

835
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<v Speaker 4>in a different format.

836
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<v Speaker 3>So this is the it is Gateway. It's the same

837
00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:15.079
<v Speaker 3>thing you do in the residential. It's the same exercises.

838
00:40:16.360 --> 00:40:19.480
<v Speaker 4>It's really well guided and it's again self paced, and

839
00:40:19.519 --> 00:40:21.679
<v Speaker 4>that's the key because it doesn't require any commitment of

840
00:40:21.719 --> 00:40:24.679
<v Speaker 4>time like we do our virtual programs, which have been great,

841
00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:26.880
<v Speaker 4>and that's like you take a week and you do

842
00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:28.920
<v Speaker 4>the whole thing during the week and you're on zoom

843
00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:31.639
<v Speaker 4>like all day. And that's a very deep, intensive experience,

844
00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:34.239
<v Speaker 4>which is great. But many people don't have that. Yeah,

845
00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:36.480
<v Speaker 4>many people don't have that kind of time, you know,

846
00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:38.400
<v Speaker 4>to put towards it and being able to do it

847
00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:41.719
<v Speaker 4>on your own time is really key, and we're trying

848
00:40:41.719 --> 00:40:44.559
<v Speaker 4>to reach we're trying to make this available to you know,

849
00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:47.239
<v Speaker 4>hundreds of thousands, millions of people, Like we're really trying

850
00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:50.440
<v Speaker 4>to get this into a format that everybody can experience it.

851
00:40:51.559 --> 00:40:54.119
<v Speaker 4>The other thing that's really unique about this too, is

852
00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:59.199
<v Speaker 4>we have remastered all of the original exercises, So we

853
00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:00.719
<v Speaker 4>took the exercise this is that we use in the

854
00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:04.360
<v Speaker 4>residential and using the amazing audio tools we have now,

855
00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:07.519
<v Speaker 4>we're able to extract Bob's original voice out of those exercises,

856
00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:10.639
<v Speaker 4>so it's Bob's original guidance still as it is, you know,

857
00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:13.719
<v Speaker 4>I'm cleaned up and remastered, and then we've re implemented

858
00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:15.679
<v Speaker 4>all of the you know, the rest of it, the

859
00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:18.119
<v Speaker 4>signals and the entrainment and all that stuff, using the

860
00:41:18.199 --> 00:41:21.519
<v Speaker 4>latest generation of our sound technology, Monroe Sound Science.

861
00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:25.679
<v Speaker 3>And this latest generation is very interesting. You know, since

862
00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:30.119
<v Speaker 3>about twoenty eleven or so, like Monroe has been the

863
00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:33.559
<v Speaker 3>MONROE'ST Dude has been continually evolving this sound technology. So

864
00:41:33.599 --> 00:41:35.280
<v Speaker 3>in the early days, it was naural beats and that

865
00:41:35.360 --> 00:41:37.960
<v Speaker 3>was kind of everything, and that worked really well. And

866
00:41:38.039 --> 00:41:40.320
<v Speaker 3>now obviously we've come a long way in terms of

867
00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:43.559
<v Speaker 3>like the kinds of audio technology we have in production.

868
00:41:44.199 --> 00:41:46.679
<v Speaker 3>We've also come a very long way in our understanding

869
00:41:46.760 --> 00:41:49.599
<v Speaker 3>of the brain and brain waves and how this all works.

870
00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:52.840
<v Speaker 3>So the latest generation of the technology is based on

871
00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:56.880
<v Speaker 3>this three D format. This is really exciting because when

872
00:41:56.920 --> 00:41:58.679
<v Speaker 3>we're working in this three D format and it's a

873
00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:00.920
<v Speaker 3>format called Dolby atmost you might see it like on

874
00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:03.280
<v Speaker 3>like Netflix. You know, it's kind of a format that

875
00:42:03.360 --> 00:42:07.159
<v Speaker 3>was made to really accurately reproduce three dimensional sound, and

876
00:42:07.239 --> 00:42:09.280
<v Speaker 3>we mix it down into headphones so that you actually

877
00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:13.199
<v Speaker 3>get this this virtual three D environment. We have an

878
00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:17.039
<v Speaker 3>entrainment signal technique that's fundamentally based in this three D

879
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:20.119
<v Speaker 3>environment that's pretty new. So the signals themselves that are

880
00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:24.559
<v Speaker 3>doing the brain wave entrainment are moving in this three

881
00:42:24.639 --> 00:42:27.360
<v Speaker 3>D space. And one of the things that makes entrainment

882
00:42:27.440 --> 00:42:31.159
<v Speaker 3>really effective is preventing habituation. So, like when you just

883
00:42:31.239 --> 00:42:33.360
<v Speaker 3>listen to a binural beat on YouTube and it's just

884
00:42:33.440 --> 00:42:36.000
<v Speaker 3>like a steady, you know thing, forever you start to

885
00:42:36.039 --> 00:42:38.440
<v Speaker 3>habituate to it, you know, your brain is really good

886
00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:40.800
<v Speaker 3>at picking out the signal from the noise, and when

887
00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:43.719
<v Speaker 3>things get monotonous, your brain tends to just dine to

888
00:42:43.719 --> 00:42:47.039
<v Speaker 3>dismiss it as just nothing interesting, nothing new going on there.

889
00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:49.880
<v Speaker 3>So in this format, as we have these signals kind

890
00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:53.480
<v Speaker 3>of moving around, they're always attracting your attention, and kind

891
00:42:53.519 --> 00:42:58.480
<v Speaker 3>of subconsciously, our brains are wired to really pay attention

892
00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:00.599
<v Speaker 3>to sounds that sound like they're moving around us in

893
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:03.800
<v Speaker 3>three D. It's like it's like a biological mechanism, you know,

894
00:43:03.840 --> 00:43:06.000
<v Speaker 3>that that has evolved to help us understand when there

895
00:43:06.039 --> 00:43:07.599
<v Speaker 3>might be threats around us or things that we need

896
00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:09.960
<v Speaker 3>to pay attention to. So we're kind of playing on

897
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:13.400
<v Speaker 3>that evolutionary bias so that we're we're helping your brain

898
00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:16.320
<v Speaker 3>pay attention to the signals. So that's one thing that's

899
00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:19.760
<v Speaker 3>exciting about this. The other thing that's exciting is when

900
00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:22.800
<v Speaker 3>we're working in this three D space and you know,

901
00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:24.440
<v Speaker 3>we don't have a whole lot of this in Gateway,

902
00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:28.000
<v Speaker 3>but in other exercises we can. We can craft a

903
00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:31.800
<v Speaker 3>very convincing environment in sound. So if we do something

904
00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:34.679
<v Speaker 3>like like with a nature soundscape where we put you

905
00:43:34.800 --> 00:43:36.559
<v Speaker 3>in like a park and you're you know, we're really

906
00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:39.480
<v Speaker 3>trying to build this experience of being in this environment.

907
00:43:40.239 --> 00:43:44.159
<v Speaker 3>The more convincing we can make that sound that that environment,

908
00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:47.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, from a sound perspective, the easier it is

909
00:43:47.079 --> 00:43:49.800
<v Speaker 3>for you to kind of really embrace it as real

910
00:43:50.679 --> 00:43:52.920
<v Speaker 3>and kind of you know, move your awareness away from

911
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:57.039
<v Speaker 3>the physical and more easily project your awareness into this

912
00:43:57.239 --> 00:44:00.519
<v Speaker 3>very real environment that sounds like it's like the real

913
00:44:00.519 --> 00:44:04.360
<v Speaker 3>physical world. So the more immersive and the more realistic

914
00:44:04.440 --> 00:44:07.880
<v Speaker 3>we can create this alternate reality that we're creating in sound,

915
00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:10.519
<v Speaker 3>the easier it is for you to project your awareness

916
00:44:10.519 --> 00:44:13.360
<v Speaker 3>into it and kind of recognize it as a real

917
00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:15.360
<v Speaker 3>place that you can kind of, you know, move your

918
00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:19.039
<v Speaker 3>awareness to. So that technology aspect, I think is really

919
00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:23.000
<v Speaker 3>interesting about this, the new Gateway Online. Yeah, I was

920
00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:23.440
<v Speaker 3>just gonna say.

921
00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:25.559
<v Speaker 4>The last thing I'll mention too is the price point,

922
00:44:25.880 --> 00:44:29.920
<v Speaker 4>because that's important too. You know, obviously our residential and

923
00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:32.239
<v Speaker 4>virtual programs, I mean their price the way they are,

924
00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:34.039
<v Speaker 4>and believe they or not, there's not like a huge

925
00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:36.000
<v Speaker 4>margin in there. Obviously, it takes a lot to run

926
00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:38.360
<v Speaker 4>the campus. I mean everything is priced to try to

927
00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:43.639
<v Speaker 4>make it accessible, but still they're expensive. With Gateway Online,

928
00:44:44.360 --> 00:44:46.880
<v Speaker 4>this new version, we're targeting at lower price points, so

929
00:44:46.960 --> 00:44:49.719
<v Speaker 4>five ninety five is kind of the list price. We're

930
00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:52.719
<v Speaker 4>also doing things with scholarships. We're really trying to figure out,

931
00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:54.440
<v Speaker 4>how can we get this out there, you know again,

932
00:44:54.519 --> 00:44:56.880
<v Speaker 4>in a way that's accessible, so make it affordable, make

933
00:44:56.920 --> 00:45:00.440
<v Speaker 4>it easy to use on your own time. That is,

934
00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:02.840
<v Speaker 4>you know, kind of an important future for us as

935
00:45:02.840 --> 00:45:04.719
<v Speaker 4>we try to reach you know, millions of people with

936
00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:05.480
<v Speaker 4>this experience.

937
00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:11.760
<v Speaker 2>So I just want to elaborate on that. You know, again,

938
00:45:12.679 --> 00:45:15.800
<v Speaker 2>Paul is in a different position than me, who you know,

939
00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Paul's whole world is living and breathing Monroe for a

940
00:45:19.039 --> 00:45:20.719
<v Speaker 2>number of years, and for me it's new and I'm

941
00:45:20.760 --> 00:45:24.320
<v Speaker 2>fresh and you know, so so we can kind of

942
00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:28.239
<v Speaker 2>talk about things differently, but like for me, I would

943
00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:31.920
<v Speaker 2>tell you honestly, Paul is not pinching me under the

944
00:45:31.960 --> 00:45:34.519
<v Speaker 2>table to say this, He's not even here. I'm just

945
00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:38.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm just telling you, like honestly, And yes, even though

946
00:45:38.280 --> 00:45:40.559
<v Speaker 2>I went for free my first time as a a

947
00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:43.519
<v Speaker 2>content creator, I have paid to do other programs people.

948
00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:48.880
<v Speaker 2>So I'm telling the truth. It's worth every penny. It's

949
00:45:48.960 --> 00:45:51.159
<v Speaker 2>it's no different than you know, going on a vacation

950
00:45:51.239 --> 00:45:54.960
<v Speaker 2>to a resort somewhere or something of that nature. And

951
00:45:55.800 --> 00:45:58.239
<v Speaker 2>just just to give you a little bit of defense there.

952
00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:00.519
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and the other thing I'll just to add to

953
00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:04.079
<v Speaker 4>like when you go to the campus, there is something,

954
00:46:04.320 --> 00:46:06.360
<v Speaker 4>there is something magical there, and I think it's like

955
00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:08.840
<v Speaker 4>you know, that campus has been there for you know whatever,

956
00:46:08.880 --> 00:46:12.760
<v Speaker 4>thirty forty years, fifty years, all of those tens of

957
00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:16.000
<v Speaker 4>thousands of people like having those experiences in that place,

958
00:46:16.119 --> 00:46:19.719
<v Speaker 4>like there really seems like there's an energetic imprint there where.

959
00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:22.480
<v Speaker 3>Like again that massive people that had they're having these

960
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:25.840
<v Speaker 3>experiences like it there's somebody crystal magic there.

961
00:46:26.000 --> 00:46:26.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

962
00:46:26.800 --> 00:46:28.440
<v Speaker 3>Crystals, Yeah, two crystals.

963
00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:31.800
<v Speaker 2>There's two seven foot crystals. I feel as if they're

964
00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:35.039
<v Speaker 2>just like amplifying this this this energy. I mean, it

965
00:46:35.039 --> 00:46:38.440
<v Speaker 2>really does feel like I mean, you just it's it's

966
00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:41.039
<v Speaker 2>a magical place. There's there's an energy there and that's

967
00:46:41.039 --> 00:46:43.039
<v Speaker 2>not crazy. I mean it's it's no different than like

968
00:46:43.079 --> 00:46:45.800
<v Speaker 2>faery circles in Ireland or England, or Stone Hinge or

969
00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:48.920
<v Speaker 2>the Pyramids. This is a thing. This is a real phenomenon.

970
00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:52.639
<v Speaker 2>It's actually called the field effect, where when you enter

971
00:46:52.679 --> 00:46:56.760
<v Speaker 2>a certain location that has a certain vibrational resonance that

972
00:46:56.840 --> 00:46:59.280
<v Speaker 2>it can have an effect on your consciousness. That's not true,

973
00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:02.760
<v Speaker 2>that that is totally a thing, But I just wanted

974
00:47:02.760 --> 00:47:04.360
<v Speaker 2>to give you know, the institute a little bit of

975
00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:06.559
<v Speaker 2>defense that, yeah, the program is pricey, but it's worth

976
00:47:06.599 --> 00:47:10.119
<v Speaker 2>every penny. There's a whole team of people that work

977
00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:14.519
<v Speaker 2>behind the scenes to make this thing flow. But what's

978
00:47:14.559 --> 00:47:21.079
<v Speaker 2>so profound about this, this new completely self guided virtual

979
00:47:21.119 --> 00:47:23.920
<v Speaker 2>gateway that's coming out is people have to understand that

980
00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:28.320
<v Speaker 2>this institute has almost been an operation for fifty years now.

981
00:47:28.360 --> 00:47:31.480
<v Speaker 2>It's been since what nineteen seventy one it was incorporated,

982
00:47:32.159 --> 00:47:38.639
<v Speaker 2>and there are only two campuses. I mean, it's one campus,

983
00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:41.960
<v Speaker 2>but there's two buildings where people take classes. So you

984
00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:46.800
<v Speaker 2>have to understand, at a week program, there is only

985
00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:51.559
<v Speaker 2>potential for like less than forty people at a time

986
00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:55.039
<v Speaker 2>to do a program, and we're talking millions over fifty years.

987
00:47:55.519 --> 00:48:01.400
<v Speaker 2>The sheer capacity and limit that the Monroe Institute has

988
00:48:01.480 --> 00:48:04.920
<v Speaker 2>been throttled by, and still the amount of work that

989
00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:09.800
<v Speaker 2>it has contributed to the masses is insane. But this

990
00:48:10.199 --> 00:48:13.960
<v Speaker 2>new program that's opening for a fraction of the price,

991
00:48:14.360 --> 00:48:17.960
<v Speaker 2>by the way, it's going to unleash the floodgates of

992
00:48:18.000 --> 00:48:24.159
<v Speaker 2>what is possible. And I know it, and it's it's

993
00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:26.960
<v Speaker 2>going to do so well, and it's a fraction of

994
00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:32.599
<v Speaker 2>the price, but the same profound program experience. So I

995
00:48:33.159 --> 00:48:36.400
<v Speaker 2>truly feel so optimistic and hopeful about this. It's just

996
00:48:36.440 --> 00:48:39.800
<v Speaker 2>going to like unleash the potential into the world. And

997
00:48:40.719 --> 00:48:42.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, I will tell you this, Paul, I don't

998
00:48:42.360 --> 00:48:44.079
<v Speaker 2>know if I've ever had the opportunity to tell you this.

999
00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:47.079
<v Speaker 2>When I went to the Monroe's to the first time,

1000
00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:52.480
<v Speaker 2>I'll give you my brief little version. Right, So, my

1001
00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:56.159
<v Speaker 2>father went with my sister. I was invited. I chose

1002
00:48:56.199 --> 00:48:59.320
<v Speaker 2>not to go because I had just started my podcast

1003
00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:03.679
<v Speaker 2>recently and I was just like, well, that sounds very cool,

1004
00:49:03.679 --> 00:49:05.280
<v Speaker 2>but I'm afraid if I go to this place I

1005
00:49:05.320 --> 00:49:06.840
<v Speaker 2>don't really know that much about it, I won't be

1006
00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:09.400
<v Speaker 2>allowed to talk about it publicly. So I'd rather hear

1007
00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:11.440
<v Speaker 2>you guys do it, and then I'll go next time.

1008
00:49:12.280 --> 00:49:14.119
<v Speaker 2>And of course that's not even true, but I just

1009
00:49:14.199 --> 00:49:16.199
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know Monroe, so I didn't know what to

1010
00:49:16.239 --> 00:49:20.000
<v Speaker 2>expect or whatever. Then my dad and my sister went

1011
00:49:20.039 --> 00:49:24.639
<v Speaker 2>again for the History Channel, and then there was a

1012
00:49:24.679 --> 00:49:27.599
<v Speaker 2>third time they were supposed to go, and by that time,

1013
00:49:27.679 --> 00:49:29.800
<v Speaker 2>hearing how they were changed what they experienced, I was

1014
00:49:29.880 --> 00:49:32.320
<v Speaker 2>kicking myself in the foot, like, no, I should have went.

1015
00:49:32.639 --> 00:49:34.679
<v Speaker 2>I wish I went. That was a mistake. It's like

1016
00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:36.599
<v Speaker 2>the biggest mistake of my life. Then to turn it

1017
00:49:36.639 --> 00:49:40.039
<v Speaker 2>down right, And then it was like another year later,

1018
00:49:40.119 --> 00:49:44.239
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four, I got the email I was invited

1019
00:49:44.239 --> 00:49:47.519
<v Speaker 2>to come talk about it. I turned it down because

1020
00:49:47.519 --> 00:49:49.119
<v Speaker 2>I was afraid I wouldn't be allowed to talk about

1021
00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:53.880
<v Speaker 2>it then, and I never really told anybody that. And

1022
00:49:53.920 --> 00:49:56.719
<v Speaker 2>then that's how the universe works, that's how fate works.

1023
00:49:57.280 --> 00:50:00.480
<v Speaker 2>I was invited because I was a content creator to

1024
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:05.599
<v Speaker 2>talk about it. So that's that. That was my that

1025
00:50:05.719 --> 00:50:08.440
<v Speaker 2>was my uh experience with it. And I don't really

1026
00:50:08.480 --> 00:50:10.159
<v Speaker 2>remember why I got on that story. It had something

1027
00:50:10.159 --> 00:50:12.880
<v Speaker 2>to do with the with the uh the virtual program.

1028
00:50:12.639 --> 00:50:14.639
<v Speaker 3>But right, yeah, the new Gateway Online.

1029
00:50:14.840 --> 00:50:17.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, the New Gateway Online. But either way, it

1030
00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:21.000
<v Speaker 2>was just like it was profound and gosh, it'll come

1031
00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:25.760
<v Speaker 2>back to me in a minute. Oh well I was

1032
00:50:25.800 --> 00:50:28.320
<v Speaker 2>telling that for a reason, but it just drifted away.

1033
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:31.280
<v Speaker 3>Yep, Well that happens, you know, consciousness.

1034
00:50:31.679 --> 00:50:36.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, but no, it's it's just it's amazing what's

1035
00:50:36.119 --> 00:50:38.599
<v Speaker 2>about to happen with this, with this virtual program, and

1036
00:50:38.639 --> 00:50:42.119
<v Speaker 2>it's going to it's just gonna change what's possible. It's

1037
00:50:42.119 --> 00:50:45.119
<v Speaker 2>going to open the flood gates. And I think that,

1038
00:50:45.280 --> 00:50:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh I remember, now, Paul, I remember. Okay, So when

1039
00:50:48.400 --> 00:50:50.800
<v Speaker 2>I went the first time, I was invited, you know,

1040
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:52.079
<v Speaker 2>to talk about it. So I was like, oh, well,

1041
00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:54.000
<v Speaker 2>this is cool. I still didn't know what to expect.

1042
00:50:54.599 --> 00:50:56.960
<v Speaker 2>I just went, like I said, you know, open mind,

1043
00:50:57.239 --> 00:51:00.079
<v Speaker 2>open mind, I'm here to learn. And it was the

1044
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:03.360
<v Speaker 2>first day. I think, when the real program begins, not

1045
00:51:03.360 --> 00:51:06.079
<v Speaker 2>not when everybody's traveling and showing up and you're kind

1046
00:51:06.079 --> 00:51:08.400
<v Speaker 2>of settling in. That's that's like day one technically. But

1047
00:51:08.440 --> 00:51:10.599
<v Speaker 2>then day one begins the next day after your first sleep,

1048
00:51:10.920 --> 00:51:14.760
<v Speaker 2>and it begins right and and one of the first lessons,

1049
00:51:14.840 --> 00:51:19.880
<v Speaker 2>they started explaining to us the basically the purpose and

1050
00:51:19.920 --> 00:51:23.480
<v Speaker 2>the mission statement of the Institute. And it was at

1051
00:51:23.480 --> 00:51:27.079
<v Speaker 2>that moment that I knew that this was so profound

1052
00:51:27.280 --> 00:51:32.960
<v Speaker 2>that the mission statement I might I might not be

1053
00:51:33.000 --> 00:51:35.119
<v Speaker 2>able to quote it for beatam, and you could probably

1054
00:51:35.119 --> 00:51:39.400
<v Speaker 2>help me with this. But it's essentially to seek to

1055
00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:45.440
<v Speaker 2>reach one percent of the world to expand global human consciousness.

1056
00:51:45.559 --> 00:51:45.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1057
00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:47.559
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's to reach one percent of the of the

1058
00:51:47.599 --> 00:51:50.920
<v Speaker 4>world's population with a direct experience, you know, that helps

1059
00:51:50.920 --> 00:51:52.320
<v Speaker 4>them know that they're more than physical.

1060
00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:53.400
<v Speaker 3>So that's kind of the idea.

1061
00:51:53.440 --> 00:51:56.719
<v Speaker 4>And by direct experience, we mean you put on the

1062
00:51:56.760 --> 00:52:00.320
<v Speaker 4>headphones and you actually like experience expanded awareness, whether it's

1063
00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:02.519
<v Speaker 4>through like you know, something that we have on YouTube

1064
00:52:02.599 --> 00:52:05.760
<v Speaker 4>or whatever. It is, Like we've kind of created the

1065
00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:09.519
<v Speaker 4>mechanism to try to count all the different places where

1066
00:52:09.519 --> 00:52:11.920
<v Speaker 4>people have those first experiences, whether it's like in the

1067
00:52:11.960 --> 00:52:15.000
<v Speaker 4>expand app. But that's something we actually track. Like that

1068
00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:18.079
<v Speaker 4>one percent is really our driving like ten year goal.

1069
00:52:18.199 --> 00:52:21.119
<v Speaker 4>It's kind of the overarching goal for Monroe, Like, and

1070
00:52:21.159 --> 00:52:23.320
<v Speaker 4>that's how we measure our progress is how many people

1071
00:52:23.360 --> 00:52:26.719
<v Speaker 4>are we reaching with that new first time experience of

1072
00:52:26.760 --> 00:52:29.960
<v Speaker 4>expanded awareness that makes them, yeah, open their eyes and

1073
00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:32.559
<v Speaker 4>realize like, wait a minute, there's something more here and

1074
00:52:32.679 --> 00:52:35.119
<v Speaker 4>hopefully starts them down that path of discovery.

1075
00:52:36.239 --> 00:52:38.679
<v Speaker 2>I always believed throughout my life that it had to

1076
00:52:38.679 --> 00:52:42.039
<v Speaker 2>be fifty percent, that we had to reach fifty percent

1077
00:52:42.039 --> 00:52:45.280
<v Speaker 2>of the world, and somehow or another, when just above

1078
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:49.400
<v Speaker 2>fifty percent, you know, see things differently, that the tides

1079
00:52:49.440 --> 00:52:51.239
<v Speaker 2>would shift, and you know, the world will change. And

1080
00:52:51.280 --> 00:52:53.039
<v Speaker 2>then when I went to Monroe and you guys were like, no,

1081
00:52:53.119 --> 00:52:54.719
<v Speaker 2>it's one percent, I thought about it and I said,

1082
00:52:54.760 --> 00:52:56.480
<v Speaker 2>you know what, I like that better. I can get

1083
00:52:56.480 --> 00:52:59.400
<v Speaker 2>behind this. You know, the rest is history, and I

1084
00:52:59.519 --> 00:53:01.920
<v Speaker 2>just I just I love that, and I love the mission,

1085
00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:05.679
<v Speaker 2>and I know that it's it's so genuine, and I

1086
00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:07.800
<v Speaker 2>consider myself a part of that. I was already on

1087
00:53:07.840 --> 00:53:10.880
<v Speaker 2>the same mission from a different lens. And I do

1088
00:53:11.000 --> 00:53:17.400
<v Speaker 2>really feel very optimistic and excited and strongly about you know,

1089
00:53:17.519 --> 00:53:21.079
<v Speaker 2>the new thing that's coming out, because you guys, it's

1090
00:53:21.800 --> 00:53:27.519
<v Speaker 2>it's like you've been slammed at capacity for fifty years,

1091
00:53:27.559 --> 00:53:30.320
<v Speaker 2>just churning them out, and it was inevitable that something

1092
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:33.280
<v Speaker 2>like this had to happen and the floodgates to be

1093
00:53:33.480 --> 00:53:38.159
<v Speaker 2>unleashed to be you know, available to everybody at at

1094
00:53:38.199 --> 00:53:42.119
<v Speaker 2>at an affordable cost. And here's the best part that

1095
00:53:42.800 --> 00:53:45.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's self guided. So if you want to

1096
00:53:45.199 --> 00:53:47.480
<v Speaker 2>do it over twelve weeks, you do it over twelve weeks. Right,

1097
00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:49.480
<v Speaker 2>if you want to do one exercise a week, do

1098
00:53:49.559 --> 00:53:52.280
<v Speaker 2>one exercise a week, whatever you want, Like, it's it's

1099
00:53:52.360 --> 00:53:53.079
<v Speaker 2>your world now.

1100
00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:59.400
<v Speaker 4>It's profound definitely yep, very exciting. Yeah, looking forward to

1101
00:53:59.400 --> 00:54:01.000
<v Speaker 4>see how it goes. And we did you know, we

1102
00:54:01.039 --> 00:54:04.280
<v Speaker 4>did really extensive beta testing with this, so several months

1103
00:54:04.280 --> 00:54:06.599
<v Speaker 4>where we had you know, we've had about five hundred

1104
00:54:06.599 --> 00:54:10.039
<v Speaker 4>people now have already gone through it, and we've gotten

1105
00:54:10.079 --> 00:54:11.480
<v Speaker 4>just yeah, tremendous feedback.

1106
00:54:12.239 --> 00:54:12.400
<v Speaker 3>You know.

1107
00:54:12.440 --> 00:54:16.079
<v Speaker 4>It's just it's just really well done. That like the

1108
00:54:16.719 --> 00:54:19.320
<v Speaker 4>and I've been to Gateway a bunch of times and

1109
00:54:19.400 --> 00:54:22.840
<v Speaker 4>so as I was watching the videos, it just struck

1110
00:54:22.880 --> 00:54:26.639
<v Speaker 4>me like, how well, how well it's explained, you know,

1111
00:54:26.679 --> 00:54:28.800
<v Speaker 4>and they think again, we've got two veteran trainers, Alan

1112
00:54:28.800 --> 00:54:30.519
<v Speaker 4>and Luigi who have been doing this for for many

1113
00:54:30.519 --> 00:54:33.519
<v Speaker 4>many years, and I think they just they just nailed

1114
00:54:33.519 --> 00:54:37.079
<v Speaker 4>it so well of explaining like the process and like

1115
00:54:37.159 --> 00:54:39.719
<v Speaker 4>you know, why you do resonant tuning and how that works,

1116
00:54:39.760 --> 00:54:43.039
<v Speaker 4>and like obviously the focus levels as you go through them.

1117
00:54:43.360 --> 00:54:45.440
<v Speaker 4>So it's just very exciting. And what I like too

1118
00:54:45.480 --> 00:54:48.000
<v Speaker 4>is there's more. So you know, you go through each

1119
00:54:48.039 --> 00:54:50.239
<v Speaker 4>exercise and there's kind of a video intro, then you

1120
00:54:50.280 --> 00:54:52.639
<v Speaker 4>do the exercise and there's a video kind of debrief,

1121
00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:54.679
<v Speaker 4>you know, So it's structured very much the same way

1122
00:54:54.679 --> 00:54:57.960
<v Speaker 4>that the residential experience is in that respect. But then

1123
00:54:58.000 --> 00:55:00.199
<v Speaker 4>there's also like you've got journaling prompts, so there's there's

1124
00:55:00.199 --> 00:55:01.639
<v Speaker 4>other ways that we can the things that we can

1125
00:55:01.679 --> 00:55:04.079
<v Speaker 4>do online that to help people engage with it. So

1126
00:55:04.159 --> 00:55:06.480
<v Speaker 4>you journal, you can get you know, we've built this

1127
00:55:06.519 --> 00:55:08.679
<v Speaker 4>sort of AI system that gives you some basic feedback

1128
00:55:08.679 --> 00:55:10.920
<v Speaker 4>about your journaling based on what other people are saying.

1129
00:55:11.679 --> 00:55:13.679
<v Speaker 4>So we're really again trying to use like all of

1130
00:55:13.719 --> 00:55:17.000
<v Speaker 4>the technology that's available today to just you know, make

1131
00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:20.000
<v Speaker 4>that experience deeper and just help people engage with it more.

1132
00:55:20.679 --> 00:55:24.519
<v Speaker 2>That's incredible, man, I'm in the beta. I've been extremely busy,

1133
00:55:24.599 --> 00:55:28.480
<v Speaker 2>and you know, full disclosure, I also while I was

1134
00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:32.000
<v Speaker 2>in the beta program, I was on my bandwidth was

1135
00:55:32.039 --> 00:55:35.960
<v Speaker 2>towards planning my own programs and like trying to run

1136
00:55:36.000 --> 00:55:39.880
<v Speaker 2>the outreach programs. But I signed into it the other

1137
00:55:39.960 --> 00:55:43.800
<v Speaker 2>day because I was actually speaking with Emily, you know,

1138
00:55:43.840 --> 00:55:46.159
<v Speaker 2>the marketing director about getting you on the show, and

1139
00:55:46.239 --> 00:55:47.760
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh man, I'm sorry, I didn't get

1140
00:55:47.760 --> 00:55:49.639
<v Speaker 2>your feedback. So I signed in and I actually saw

1141
00:55:49.679 --> 00:55:52.719
<v Speaker 2>there were seven hundred people. Oh wow, Okay, yeah, because

1142
00:55:52.719 --> 00:55:54.440
<v Speaker 2>it shows the number. It shows the number when he

1143
00:55:54.480 --> 00:55:56.599
<v Speaker 2>said it, So there's like seven hundred people fleshing out

1144
00:55:56.639 --> 00:55:59.800
<v Speaker 2>the beta. So yeah, I can't wait to see that.

1145
00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:03.199
<v Speaker 2>And love the expand app. I use it all the time.

1146
00:56:03.400 --> 00:56:05.400
<v Speaker 2>It's it's a very powerful tool. And I'm a big

1147
00:56:05.400 --> 00:56:07.719
<v Speaker 2>fan of Monroe Sound Science. I've actually had Agnaucio Diaz

1148
00:56:07.800 --> 00:56:11.039
<v Speaker 2>Junior on the show and you know, get just just

1149
00:56:11.159 --> 00:56:14.159
<v Speaker 2>nerding out about like the sound and how the technology works.

1150
00:56:14.239 --> 00:56:17.800
<v Speaker 2>I really, I just really want the people at home

1151
00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:21.039
<v Speaker 2>to understand how profound this is. And I don't want

1152
00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:23.480
<v Speaker 2>to put words. I have to delineate because there's two Ryans.

1153
00:56:24.480 --> 00:56:27.880
<v Speaker 2>There's podcast Ryan, who existed before Monroe, and then there's

1154
00:56:27.920 --> 00:56:31.519
<v Speaker 2>the there's Monroe Institute Ryan, who exists as a trainer,

1155
00:56:32.159 --> 00:56:35.119
<v Speaker 2>and I have to respect both systems. So I'm delineating

1156
00:56:35.159 --> 00:56:37.039
<v Speaker 2>that this is not Monroe Ryan saying this. This is

1157
00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:39.840
<v Speaker 2>podcast Ryan saying this and a training. You know, there's

1158
00:56:39.840 --> 00:56:44.039
<v Speaker 2>a difference in how you communicate things. But podcaster Ryan

1159
00:56:44.119 --> 00:56:49.639
<v Speaker 2>says that in the ancient past, it could be suggested

1160
00:56:49.920 --> 00:56:53.519
<v Speaker 2>that what Monroe has perfected in today's world through technology

1161
00:56:53.760 --> 00:56:58.079
<v Speaker 2>and through the codification of all of these different these

1162
00:56:58.159 --> 00:57:02.480
<v Speaker 2>expanded states, what's the whole whole objective? Whether it was

1163
00:57:02.480 --> 00:57:07.079
<v Speaker 2>in Tibet or Egypt, or Greece or Persia or the

1164
00:57:07.119 --> 00:57:10.719
<v Speaker 2>Templar knights or whatever tradition in the ancient past, their

1165
00:57:10.840 --> 00:57:16.079
<v Speaker 2>whole thing was about, you know, some sort of profound

1166
00:57:16.559 --> 00:57:20.400
<v Speaker 2>direct experience with the other. And maybe you can elaborate

1167
00:57:20.440 --> 00:57:22.440
<v Speaker 2>on this, Paul. But there's a very famous story that

1168
00:57:22.519 --> 00:57:24.400
<v Speaker 2>I feel like they probably tell it all Gateways, at

1169
00:57:24.480 --> 00:57:27.400
<v Speaker 2>least everybody I know that's done it, and other programs too.

1170
00:57:27.440 --> 00:57:29.800
<v Speaker 2>But there's this famous story. I think it was the nineties.

1171
00:57:29.840 --> 00:57:32.119
<v Speaker 2>There was a a you know the story, do you

1172
00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:32.639
<v Speaker 2>want to tell it?

1173
00:57:32.719 --> 00:57:32.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

1174
00:57:32.920 --> 00:57:36.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there was a head of a

1175
00:57:36.480 --> 00:57:38.719
<v Speaker 4>Buddhist temple. I think he was ninety one years old

1176
00:57:38.800 --> 00:57:41.079
<v Speaker 4>or something. Like this, and he came to Gateway in

1177
00:57:41.079 --> 00:57:45.000
<v Speaker 4>the nineties and you know, went through it and he

1178
00:57:45.119 --> 00:57:47.519
<v Speaker 4>said that, you know, people in Gateway were reaching states

1179
00:57:47.559 --> 00:57:50.480
<v Speaker 4>in one week that took him years of sitting in meditation,

1180
00:57:51.559 --> 00:57:53.880
<v Speaker 4>and that It's funny because that quote ended up being

1181
00:57:53.880 --> 00:57:56.800
<v Speaker 4>in a Wall Street Journal article in the nineties, which

1182
00:57:56.840 --> 00:57:57.880
<v Speaker 4>is how we kind of you know.

1183
00:57:57.800 --> 00:57:58.559
<v Speaker 3>Have it and found it.

1184
00:57:58.920 --> 00:58:01.880
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, yeah, that's that kind of sums it up

1185
00:58:01.920 --> 00:58:04.360
<v Speaker 4>really well. Like it's like you're you know again, like

1186
00:58:04.559 --> 00:58:08.880
<v Speaker 4>you these aren't new states, but making them easy for

1187
00:58:09.000 --> 00:58:11.679
<v Speaker 4>like every person to reach is totally new. Like I

1188
00:58:11.760 --> 00:58:14.400
<v Speaker 4>just I don't feel like there's ever ever been a

1189
00:58:14.440 --> 00:58:17.960
<v Speaker 4>point in history where that's been that easily accessible and available.

1190
00:58:18.440 --> 00:58:20.880
<v Speaker 4>And I think, again, what's what's so important is like

1191
00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:24.360
<v Speaker 4>it gives people a direct experience of the divine and

1192
00:58:24.400 --> 00:58:29.079
<v Speaker 4>whatever you think is beyond physical. You know, in the past,

1193
00:58:29.519 --> 00:58:33.280
<v Speaker 4>we relied on, you know, on religions and middleman and like, okay,

1194
00:58:33.400 --> 00:58:34.800
<v Speaker 4>you know, the priest is the one who talks to

1195
00:58:34.840 --> 00:58:36.920
<v Speaker 4>God and you know, you to kind of interpret what's

1196
00:58:36.920 --> 00:58:38.639
<v Speaker 4>going on. And now it's like you've got a direct

1197
00:58:38.679 --> 00:58:43.199
<v Speaker 4>line to get answers. And the other thing that I

1198
00:58:43.199 --> 00:58:45.159
<v Speaker 4>think is so important about this work when you do

1199
00:58:45.199 --> 00:58:49.159
<v Speaker 4>this is it's not someone else's answers. And that's a

1200
00:58:49.199 --> 00:58:50.400
<v Speaker 4>really kind of important.

1201
00:58:50.039 --> 00:58:52.519
<v Speaker 3>Thing for me about Monroe is that we don't tell you,

1202
00:58:52.559 --> 00:58:54.440
<v Speaker 3>like Bob and Roh had his experiences and he wrote

1203
00:58:54.440 --> 00:58:57.679
<v Speaker 3>about him, but we don't tell you, oh, here's how

1204
00:58:57.719 --> 00:58:58.360
<v Speaker 3>it all works.

1205
00:58:59.039 --> 00:59:00.840
<v Speaker 4>And Bob was like, this too, from what you know,

1206
00:59:00.880 --> 00:59:02.880
<v Speaker 4>people that have been around and you know, people would

1207
00:59:02.880 --> 00:59:04.880
<v Speaker 4>ask them questions and you know, like why does this happen?

1208
00:59:04.920 --> 00:59:05.480
<v Speaker 3>Or what should I do?

1209
00:59:05.519 --> 00:59:07.400
<v Speaker 4>And he said, you know, well go find out, you know,

1210
00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:10.480
<v Speaker 4>go experience it for yourself. And that's that's been kind

1211
00:59:10.480 --> 00:59:12.719
<v Speaker 4>of the way that Monroe operates ever since. Is it's

1212
00:59:12.760 --> 00:59:14.599
<v Speaker 4>not like we're not here to give you answers. We're

1213
00:59:14.599 --> 00:59:17.800
<v Speaker 4>here to tell you how to find your answers. And

1214
00:59:17.840 --> 00:59:21.000
<v Speaker 4>your answers aren't necessarily my answers because my experience is

1215
00:59:21.000 --> 00:59:23.719
<v Speaker 4>different than yours. So it's a way to find like

1216
00:59:23.880 --> 00:59:29.599
<v Speaker 4>your personal truth that resonates with you through your own experience,

1217
00:59:29.960 --> 00:59:32.719
<v Speaker 4>and that I think is again is so different than

1218
00:59:32.840 --> 00:59:34.760
<v Speaker 4>than what at least I've experienced in any kind of

1219
00:59:34.760 --> 00:59:39.760
<v Speaker 4>like organized spirituality, you know, context, it's it's it's the

1220
00:59:39.880 --> 00:59:42.960
<v Speaker 4>truth like in those in those cases, there's there's the truth,

1221
00:59:43.039 --> 00:59:45.360
<v Speaker 4>and this is the truth that everyone has to kind

1222
00:59:45.360 --> 00:59:45.960
<v Speaker 4>of embrace and.

1223
00:59:47.480 --> 00:59:51.840
<v Speaker 3>Kind of ratify. This is your truth. So that's just

1224
00:59:51.880 --> 00:59:52.559
<v Speaker 3>beautiful to me.

1225
00:59:53.079 --> 00:59:55.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's that's something that I love. It's like, go explore.

1226
00:59:56.119 --> 00:59:58.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, people have questions and it's like, you know,

1227
00:59:58.559 --> 01:00:02.440
<v Speaker 2>that's a great question. Find out, Go explore. You know,

1228
01:00:02.519 --> 01:00:05.039
<v Speaker 2>you have the tools. So this is what I meant

1229
01:00:05.079 --> 01:00:07.400
<v Speaker 2>earlier when I said that the monro'stitude is kind of

1230
01:00:07.400 --> 01:00:12.199
<v Speaker 2>like the embodiment of peak Western science. Taking this profound

1231
01:00:12.360 --> 01:00:16.119
<v Speaker 2>thing that's out there and some other space, you know,

1232
01:00:16.159 --> 01:00:21.039
<v Speaker 2>non physical realities, consciousness and the spectrum of in and

1233
01:00:21.079 --> 01:00:24.800
<v Speaker 2>out of the body. It's taking this very bizarre and

1234
01:00:25.079 --> 01:00:32.760
<v Speaker 2>deep and confusing metaphysical suggestion and very much through Okham's razor,

1235
01:00:32.920 --> 01:00:36.960
<v Speaker 2>just narrowing that filter through which we can experience this

1236
01:00:37.079 --> 01:00:39.719
<v Speaker 2>where you know, I don't have to go sit under

1237
01:00:40.039 --> 01:00:42.480
<v Speaker 2>a tree in India for thirty years, or sit by

1238
01:00:42.480 --> 01:00:48.920
<v Speaker 2>a waterfall into bed or you know, Egyptian temple ar etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

1239
01:00:49.039 --> 01:00:50.960
<v Speaker 2>Those things are cool. I love talking about those things

1240
01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:53.199
<v Speaker 2>and studying those things. But that's this is why I

1241
01:00:53.239 --> 01:00:57.880
<v Speaker 2>was so blown away by Monroe because it's truly just

1242
01:00:58.079 --> 01:01:03.039
<v Speaker 2>so efficient, it's modern. It's to me, my what you know.

1243
01:01:03.079 --> 01:01:04.760
<v Speaker 2>One of the things that I experienced in the out

1244
01:01:04.760 --> 01:01:09.559
<v Speaker 2>of body state was I was seeing myself in the

1245
01:01:09.599 --> 01:01:17.360
<v Speaker 2>past in ancient Egypt, and I was being told about

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<v Speaker 2>things basically in the temple. But in that moment, in

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<v Speaker 2>that out of body state, it's like information was coming

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<v Speaker 2>through to me that like there's really not that much

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<v Speaker 2>difference between that back then and kind of like what

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<v Speaker 2>happens at Monroe. Like it's it's just the difference is

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<v Speaker 2>you don't need religion, you don't need dogma. It's universal.

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<v Speaker 2>This is an ability that's a part of your being,

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<v Speaker 2>your multi dimensional nature. And you know, having grown up

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<v Speaker 2>very super religious, it's like, you know, well I thought

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<v Speaker 2>I had to believe a certain thing to experience this. Well, no,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't experience things or have abilities or whatever because

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<v Speaker 2>of what you believe. It's because of who you are

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<v Speaker 2>and what you are. It's universal, right, and you can

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<v Speaker 2>experience this and you can explore parts of yourself and

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<v Speaker 2>you can still believe those things if you want to.

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<v Speaker 2>That's great, you know what I mean. So it opened

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of doors for me, the Monrostitute process and

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<v Speaker 2>just everything about it, you know, diving into the culture

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<v Speaker 2>of the knowledge, becoming a trainer, devoting my life to

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<v Speaker 2>the process. It just it's been good for me, so

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<v Speaker 2>that no complaints.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, very cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, is there anything that you feel like is

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<v Speaker 2>left on your heart? Or do you feel pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>at peace with where we're at, because I think we

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<v Speaker 2>hit all the things I wanted to hit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Uh yeah, I'm feeling good. I think we've covered

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of ground. I think. Yeah, it's been a

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<v Speaker 3>great conversation. Yeah, really enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome. Well, guys, before we wrap, thank you for listening.

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<v Speaker 2>Please I encourage you to look into all the things

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<v Speaker 2>that we've discussed. I am actually building an outreach website,

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<v Speaker 2>a website where I can do my programs, but I'll

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<v Speaker 2>focus on that later when it's finished. For now, I

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<v Speaker 2>want you, guys to where could they find the app?

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<v Speaker 4>Just go to the Monroe website and it'll be there.

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<v Speaker 4>We've got actually, we've got a new homepage as well,

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<v Speaker 4>so you know, the homepage makes it easier to find Gateway.

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<v Speaker 4>So from the home page you'll see Gateway and then

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<v Speaker 4>you just go get right to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. So just to be clear, the new experience, the

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<v Speaker 2>self guided virtual with all the videos, it's not on

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<v Speaker 2>the Expand app, It's on the Monroe's.

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<v Speaker 4>Website, correct. Yeah, Actually that's a good point. So right now,

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<v Speaker 4>this is kind of a two phase approach. So right

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<v Speaker 4>now it's on the website and the way that you

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<v Speaker 4>take the courses through the web. Now you can use

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<v Speaker 4>your mobile and it all works there as well, but

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<v Speaker 4>it's not built into the Expand app yet. But it

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<v Speaker 4>is going to be coming, and that's that's going to

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<v Speaker 4>be kind of the phase too. Like for now, we'll

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<v Speaker 4>get it live and get people going on the website

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<v Speaker 4>and then we'll integrate it, you know, more deeply into

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<v Speaker 4>the Expand app in the future.

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing. And I have been authorized to tell you guys

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<v Speaker 2>that for the first two weeks after launch, you guys

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<v Speaker 2>will be getting a discount with code BSS all caps

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<v Speaker 2>b s S, So enjoy, enjoy your discount, go have fun,

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<v Speaker 2>go explore. I hope you guys enjoyed this conversation. Paul,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much. It's been an honor. I look

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<v Speaker 2>forward to connecting with you guys soon and we love

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<v Speaker 2>you guys and we'll see you next week. Great.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Weird things happened in the weird weird Did anything any