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Speaker 2: Welcome back again, folks of the internwebs. Once again, JJ
Speaker 2: Vance here, host of Operation gc D and perhaps more
Speaker 2: notably not the Vice president. Anyhow, I will be your
Speaker 2: pilot navigator for tonight's Shenanigan infused journey into the mind
Speaker 2: of this particular garbage can dude, and folks of the interwebs.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie yet. Got a real bar and
Speaker 2: burner here on deck for you all tonight. The inn
Speaker 2: occult and or s O terric review of the nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty eight cinematic masterpiece Twins. You know that late eighties
Speaker 2: comedy where the starring the son of a Nazi with
Speaker 2: some you know, full frontal right in your face, whole
Speaker 2: Nazi genetic experiment business going on there. So we got
Speaker 2: that on deck here, and so thanks for joining me
Speaker 2: here tonight, here folks to get a little GCD. And
Speaker 2: we got our guests, the Cosmic Peaches, not Bill Colby,
Speaker 2: not Bill Colby, the host of the Conspiracy Playtime, and
Speaker 2: Julie the Cosmic Peach. We welcome back for your first
Speaker 2: time in Operation GCD.
Speaker 4: It really is my first time, I'll ask you.
Speaker 2: It's the game I like to play with Julia since
Speaker 2: the first time I forgot. I'm like, you're right, this
Speaker 2: is not your first time or the second time she
Speaker 2: was on, I was like, you're right. Reintroduced to me
Speaker 2: I did not. Okay, Well, well, sir, welcome to your
Speaker 2: first time on Operation GCD. Would you like to introduce
Speaker 2: your podcast and yourself please.
Speaker 4: My name's Colby. I like everything conspiratorial, esoteric, occultist, blah
Speaker 4: blah blah, all the stuff that jjs into and Conspiracy playtime.
Speaker 4: You can see that anywhere YouTube, Spotify, all the podcast players.
Speaker 2: Nice and Julia, welcome back, ma'am for your first time
Speaker 2: on operations.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me for my first time.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, What's what's the new Cosmic Peach podcast?
Speaker 1: Well, actually, I've been working with you on the program
Speaker 1: Serial Killers. I feel like we have a follow up
Speaker 1: in the works, maybe for a little bit more Edward Wayne.
Speaker 2: Edwards, Oh, yes, ma'am, there's more room for d Yeah.
Speaker 1: And Colby and I are actually working on We did
Speaker 1: a I think a three part series. I did a
Speaker 1: three part series on sleep paralysis and he was on
Speaker 1: the last one, and then we decided to kind of
Speaker 1: expand on that and do a mini series on weird
Speaker 1: mental illness and we decided to call it the Conspira Asylum.
Speaker 1: So that's something fun.
Speaker 2: That that's unique.
Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 2: So what kind of mental illness were talking here? Like
Speaker 2: schizophrenias or what.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about? Like all of it, you know,
Speaker 1: like even going back into time, you know, were people crazy,
Speaker 1: were they shamans? Were they sing into the other realms?
Speaker 1: Or were they did did they just need a straight jacket?
Speaker 2: I like it I like it time traveling, mental illness.
Speaker 2: That's good stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for having us though.
Speaker 2: No, absolutely I enjoy I always enjoy our serial killer
Speaker 2: conversations as much as I can enjoy such a thing.
Speaker 2: And that last one we did was a real barn
Speaker 2: burnst No, I appreciate you. Appreciate you on that one
Speaker 2: as well. Yeah, that was, and I mean, while we're
Speaker 2: on the topic, and it's very fitting for tonight's conversation.
Speaker 2: And you know, it's typically a game I like to
Speaker 2: play here on my Friday show, and you're probably familiar
Speaker 2: with it. They're uh, Julia, But it's a it's a game.
Speaker 2: It's a game I like to play called who is
Speaker 2: your Daddy And what does he do? You tell me,
Speaker 2: who is your daddy and what does he do? Thoughts, questions, suggestions.
Speaker 1: Well, I know I saw Ted bee Hole on the screen,
Speaker 1: but I don't know who that other guy was.
Speaker 2: It was me, it was that was actual Bill Colby,
Speaker 2: not to be confused with not Bill Colby.
Speaker 1: You're right, that was not was not Bill. That was
Speaker 1: Bill Colby.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So on the theory that you know, I'm you
Speaker 2: much like myself. As we've discussed and got along these
Speaker 2: tracks by way of Dave McGowan. He rather, I often
Speaker 2: joked that he radicalized me on these subjects, you know,
Speaker 2: across the spectrum of conspiracy, you know, culture that is,
Speaker 2: but program to kill you know, his thesis was the
Speaker 2: Phoenix program Come home right, correct?
Speaker 4: Yeah, And there's a lot of holes and discrepancies in
Speaker 4: Bundy's early story, like yeah, so you don't really know
Speaker 4: other than the grandmother and some some military guy that
Speaker 4: came in and was his step dad there for a while.
Speaker 4: But it does probably go back further than that with him.
Speaker 2: Well, that is an accurate assessment, sir. I salute you
Speaker 2: on your knowledge of Ted Theodore Bundy. I like to
Speaker 2: call that photograph Bill and Ted's Murderous Adventure.
Speaker 4: Perfect.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is perfect.
Speaker 2: See it again.
Speaker 1: I want to see there, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'll bring I will bring up. You want to see
Speaker 2: the video, you just want to see a picture. I'll
Speaker 2: play video.
Speaker 1: See whatever you got because that's interesting to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Ted Bundy's a favorite over here.
Speaker 1: Ye can't live with.
Speaker 2: That, all right, So I'm talking your language, is what
Speaker 2: you're saying. Yep, let me let me let me see
Speaker 2: what I got here for you. Bill and Ted's murderous
Speaker 2: adventure right there.
Speaker 1: You know, there is quite a bit of a similarity
Speaker 1: with like the bone structure.
Speaker 2: I mean, wouldn't that be wild of the guy who
Speaker 2: was the head of the Phoenix program and brought it home?
Speaker 2: And you know, in regards to the thesis presented by McGown,
Speaker 2: which I think he spot on, wouldn't it be wild
Speaker 2: that his son, the biological son, is one of the
Speaker 2: most prolific serial killers amongst that program.
Speaker 4: I don't think it would be wild.
Speaker 2: I think I mean that in a very sarcastic manner.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you picked up on this, sir, because Ted didn't.
Speaker 1: Ted like he went to California for a while.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was in his training grounds. Was that Santa
Speaker 4: Barbara area where after the Manson shit went down? There
Speaker 4: was so many fucking occultist type murders going on in
Speaker 4: those mountains surrounding that area. And that was around the
Speaker 4: time that he was down there too, before he really
Speaker 4: took off in Seattle.
Speaker 2: For sure. He Well would you believe that he went
Speaker 2: to law school? I mean possibly just like his father, right,
Speaker 2: Bill Colby, graduate of Columbia lull Wow. So in nineteen
Speaker 2: in nineteen forty six. May I may give you a
Speaker 2: little background. You were spot on with your He's got
Speaker 2: a very murky background. But what we do know the
Speaker 2: known knowns of Ted Bundy? Right? You know what I
Speaker 2: mean When I'm talking about psychopaths, I like to think
Speaker 2: like a psychopath.
Speaker 1: As we know there are known nomes, there are things
Speaker 1: we know.
Speaker 2: We know. We also know there are known unknowns. That
Speaker 2: is to say, we know there's some things we do
Speaker 2: not know, but they're.
Speaker 6: Also unknown unknowns.
Speaker 1: The ones we don't know we.
Speaker 2: Don't Donald Rumsfeldt, he's a fucking psychopath in a criminal
Speaker 2: but he's onto something there. And the stuff we know
Speaker 2: about Ted Bundy is very interesting because his mother gives
Speaker 2: birth to him. I think it's November twenty sixth, nineteen
Speaker 2: forty six, in the unwed Mother's Hospital of Burlington, Vermont.
Speaker 1: Supposedly.
Speaker 2: Well I'm under at least some level of, you know,
Speaker 2: some concept of finding that to be a fact. That
Speaker 2: was what was known amongst the nurses of that hospital
Speaker 2: as well. My great aunt was a nurse of that hospital.
Speaker 4: Really yeah, So he grew up believing that his birth
Speaker 4: mother was his sister, right, much like Jack Nicholson, who
Speaker 4: I think actually played Ted Bundy for a while there.
Speaker 4: If you watch these Colorado interviews that he gave when
Speaker 4: he was incarcerated and wearing the orange jumper, it's I
Speaker 4: think that's Jack Nicholson and their similar their stories, even
Speaker 4: McGowan and weird scenes makes.
Speaker 1: That tie because they all, uh Ted Bundy and Jack
Speaker 1: Nicholson do not have birth certificates.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well he's got a birth certificate, but it's uh,
Speaker 2: it doesn't have a father, doesn't have a father.
Speaker 1: Well, uh, the in the Shining uh, it was supposed
Speaker 1: to be a red Volkswagen.
Speaker 4: Yees, Stephen King's book was the red Volkswagen. They changed
Speaker 4: it to the yellow one. And that's Nicholson in there.
Speaker 4: And that's before even you know, any of the Bundy
Speaker 4: stuff started going down, well unless he was playing and
Speaker 4: training in Santa Barbara Hills area.
Speaker 1: Did you listen to my episode with JJ when I
Speaker 1: talked about Patrick Kearney the Government Cheese episode?
Speaker 4: Not yet?
Speaker 1: Okay, so there he was also a prolific serial killer
Speaker 1: in and around the same areas as Government.
Speaker 2: Cheese, Government beef Burrito.
Speaker 1: Belle Beefer be He also had a yellow Oldswagon so
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, weird, I did not know that, so
Speaker 1: Patrick had Bundy. They did it in the.
Speaker 4: Wow Yellow.
Speaker 2: Really yeah, if you all need those files, I think
Speaker 2: I got some of that on the Morey Terry stuff.
Speaker 2: I have not I'll reach out to Jonathan Mitchell and
Speaker 2: he certainly has the locations of those things. I mean
Speaker 2: a lot of the files are on the website, the
Speaker 2: people versus David Berkowitz, a lot of the terry stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 2: not all of it, but a lot of it. I like,
Speaker 2: we were at there with Jack Nicholson. I mean, he's
Speaker 2: a major process figure. He's a you know, bff's with
Speaker 2: my One of my favorite characters in life, old Cocaine
Speaker 2: Bob Evans, not to be confused with Bob Evans, the
Speaker 2: sausage King of Ohio, you know, the restaurant guy.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of Bob Evans restaurants in the town
Speaker 1: in Ohio where I grew up, and I thought they
Speaker 1: were everywhere until I moved away and I was like, so,
Speaker 1: I guess Cracker Barrel is the Bob Evans of the
Speaker 1: rest of the United States. It's just just Ohio has.
Speaker 2: Bob you gotta go. Yeah, they're out of del Rio.
Speaker 2: I think down there by Athens is the initial Evans
Speaker 2: farms to be creepy. If you go to the initial farm,
Speaker 2: they have like this weird museum to the Wizard of Oz.
Speaker 1: What. Yeah, No, that's not good.
Speaker 2: JJ right, that's what I said too. They even had
Speaker 2: the red slippers in there. I'm like, what is going
Speaker 2: on in here?
Speaker 1: No, this is not good. That means they're serving human meat.
Speaker 2: Well what did I call that? Del Rio? I met
Speaker 2: Rio grand too. There shouldn't be anything named anything like
Speaker 2: that in Ohio. That's a Texas name. That's a Texas
Speaker 2: right now. I agree there's a lot of creepy stuff
Speaker 2: around the whole. I think the whole motif there with that.
Speaker 2: But in regards to Ted Bundy, would you believe that
Speaker 2: Bill Colby was in and around Burlington, Vermont in the
Speaker 2: year in the timeframe in which Ted Bundy's mother was impregnant.
Speaker 1: Since I mean, would you have ever put that together?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: I mean I'd never heard this information about the possible.
Speaker 2: If I'm gonna be honest with you all, I inadvertently
Speaker 2: came across these matters because I was looking into you know,
Speaker 2: I got a real ass, you know, but stalking Bill
Speaker 2: Colby here, Reese, as of late you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: as Colby's queers with all these programs come home, be
Speaker 2: it Michael Locino or all those Nazis in Idaho, or
Speaker 2: you know, you name it, all the money laundering it's
Speaker 2: connected to, because you know, back when Newgan Hand Bank
Speaker 2: failed that back in nineteen eighty, the Australian Bank huge
Speaker 2: financial collapse. Bill Colby was sitting on the board of
Speaker 2: that bank and one of his Green Berets special Forces
Speaker 2: as I dubbed them, Colby's clears. You know, no offense there,
Speaker 2: not in regards their sexual preferences, but the odd and strange,
Speaker 2: you know, outcomes and natures they've left on society. And nonetheless,
Speaker 2: this is an ongoing enterprise, which in large part Jeffrey
Speaker 2: Epstein was in this enterprise. It seems as I've been
Speaker 2: studying the financial stuff even further in all these connections.
Speaker 2: You know, you can't separate Jeffrey Epstein from Iran contra.
Speaker 2: But nonetheless, as studying these things further, I you know,
Speaker 2: I was looking at Bill Colby's history. I didn't realize
Speaker 2: that he went to high school in Burlington, Vermont, he's
Speaker 2: not from Berlinton. I think he's from Minnesota. His father
Speaker 2: retires from the Army colonel Army, Colonel Colby, and then
Speaker 2: he takes a job as the ROTC commander at Berlin,
Speaker 2: University of Vermont and Burlington. You know this, this is
Speaker 2: a time when this is a very small town. That's
Speaker 2: my grandfather grew up there. In fact, he graduated high
Speaker 2: school Bill Colby. And that's something else I sent shit.
Speaker 1: And then he knocks up ted Beehole's mom.
Speaker 2: It well, so as a result of finding out all
Speaker 2: those things, I'm like, well, how long was Colonel Colby
Speaker 2: in town here? Right? So he's there till forty eight.
Speaker 2: He takes a new job. In forty eight. Bill comes
Speaker 2: back from the war and rolls in Columbia Law School.
Speaker 2: But his parents lived seven hours north in Burlington, Vermont.
Speaker 2: I've made that drive many times from New York City
Speaker 2: to Berlinton. It's a it's a trek, but it's a
Speaker 2: very common trick for a lot of folks. And I
Speaker 2: have no doubt that Bill would have gone to see
Speaker 2: his folks at some point in time there. And I'm
Speaker 2: just saying it puts him in close proximity of a
Speaker 2: guy who was a was a you know, a rising
Speaker 2: star in Republican politics and in Colby's Phoenix program, Come
Speaker 2: Home the serial Killers.
Speaker 1: He went to visit his parents and he got some hot,
Speaker 1: wet strange and then.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm thinking, that's my run theory thinking. I mean,
Speaker 2: it does bear a striking resemblance. It's a man we
Speaker 2: know nothing about. Is uh you know who his daddy is?
Speaker 2: You know, right?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yeah, I mean it makes sense, of course,
Speaker 1: like it's one of the most prolific serial killers of
Speaker 1: all time. Of course that's who his dad would be.
Speaker 2: And you call him beehole Bundy? Is that what your
Speaker 2: nickname before him is? Ted Beehole? That's fantastic that I
Speaker 2: had no idea, but that's that's great, that's fantastic.
Speaker 4: It's one of her favorite words.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I love I love talking about bee hole stuff.
Speaker 1: Look somebody but.
Speaker 2: Nice, thank you, sir. Yeah, that's a last has always
Speaker 2: got some some good fun facts there. And apparently Bundy
Speaker 2: uh had a guy. Uh there was a guy with
Speaker 2: Bundy's alleged father's last name living in that apartment complex
Speaker 2: with Berkowitz. Interesting, shut the fuck up. Yeah, And that's
Speaker 2: a pretty nice little little, you know, apartment building Burke
Speaker 2: which you know he wasn't in the slums. You know,
Speaker 2: he wasn't rough in it. He had one hundred grand.
Speaker 2: Speaking of things, I don't think I've ever been effectively
Speaker 2: explained he had over one hundred grand in the bank
Speaker 2: at the time of his arrest. What the fuck did
Speaker 2: David Burke Woods do to get one hundred grand? What
Speaker 2: it's in the court record. It's in the court record
Speaker 2: with the settling, so all of his So what the
Speaker 2: shootings were? He gets arrested in seventy eight. In my
Speaker 2: all for years at seventy seven.
Speaker 4: I don't know the exact year, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Well, here's the deal. I'm not anat Daus semin order
Speaker 2: of the apocalypse here, and we've had you know, tornadoes,
Speaker 2: flash floods, storms, the heat, the heats getting to me. Man,
Speaker 2: I'm a I'm a half ginger. You know, I can't
Speaker 2: be dealing with Let me look, let me look this
Speaker 2: up from quote what a year. This is a sick
Speaker 2: because I want to say it was two years after
Speaker 2: his arrest that they they the victims sue him in
Speaker 2: his estate for money, right, yeah, so that's August tenth
Speaker 2: of seventy seven, that's what thoughts. So, I want to say,
Speaker 2: July seventy nine is the lawsuit from his victims. And
Speaker 2: in that lawsuit, they divvied out whatever his estate had,
Speaker 2: you know, and and he had over one hundred thousand
Speaker 2: dollars in cash. And no one has ever explained how
Speaker 2: he had over one hundred thousand dollars in cash, you know,
Speaker 2: in his bank.
Speaker 1: That was a lot for back that I mean it's
Speaker 1: at now, but that was like, yeah.
Speaker 4: For cash, that'd be a lot.
Speaker 2: Now, that's like half a million dollars in today's money.
Speaker 2: I'll give you the exact testament. But off the top
Speaker 2: of my brain hole, that's half a million dollars in
Speaker 2: today's cash.
Speaker 5: What the fuck?
Speaker 1: So he was getting paid obviously by the program to
Speaker 1: kill Academy.
Speaker 2: I mean some he's raking in some cash somehow. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's that's five point three million dollars, just kidding, five
Speaker 2: five hundred I tell to the heat, the heats it real, bitch,
Speaker 2: five hundred and thirty thousand dollars.
Speaker 4: Oh you were right though, you said half a mil
Speaker 4: you were dead on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean imagine one of these, Uh, I
Speaker 2: don't know, Nate. Well, how about the fella and Idaho
Speaker 2: with the Nazi Satanist wherewoof Satanist's father, outlaw biker guy father,
Speaker 2: the one that allegedly shot up these firefighters, right? You know?
Speaker 2: He imagine if he just you know, had half a
Speaker 2: million dollars in the bank. I got a better one.
Speaker 2: Remember Nicholas Cruz from the Parkland situation, He had a
Speaker 2: few million dollars in the bank. Now on fuck is
Speaker 2: that a worry about that?
Speaker 3: The fuck? Yeah?
Speaker 2: His his adopted father had passed away a few years
Speaker 2: prior and left him and it's quite a worthy estate.
Speaker 2: It's since been sealed, but you can find this the
Speaker 2: case that has been sealed. But he his father was
Speaker 2: the business partner of the agent for doctor doctor Julius Irvine,
Speaker 2: not a real doctor. The basketball player. Well, so he
Speaker 2: was the highest. He was the I paid player before
Speaker 2: Jordan or Lebron everybuddy. So this dude was rigging some sports,
Speaker 2: stage and cash amongst other things.
Speaker 4: Well, wasn't there a weird connection with what's what's the
Speaker 4: kid's name that did the Aurora, Colorado shooting Holmes? Yeah,
Speaker 4: wasn't his dad and the dad of Cruz in some
Speaker 4: kind of financial scandal together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, what you're saying makes a lot of
Speaker 2: sense to me.
Speaker 4: This is something I heard recently. I don't even remember where,
Speaker 4: but I never verified it, so I thought you might
Speaker 4: know that. But anyway, it was Yeah, crews and homes
Speaker 4: their dads.
Speaker 2: It was Adam Lanza's dad, Peter Land.
Speaker 4: That's Adam Land. So Lanza was was the word that
Speaker 4: I don't say because you're on YouTube right now.
Speaker 2: Wow, oh yeah, that's probably good call, dude. You know,
Speaker 2: that's still a very spooky situation.
Speaker 4: Think about the thing Alex Jones got wrapped up in
Speaker 4: that one. I don't want to get kicked off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've gone way, I'm I'm from That's where I'm from.
Speaker 2: I was born there in Fairfield County.
Speaker 4: Well, we talked about it when we were with Lola
Speaker 4: a little bit, but we kicked off. I haven't put
Speaker 4: it out yet, so the.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, somebody in the Commons said, handy sook. Yep,
Speaker 1: that's what we'll refer to it as.
Speaker 2: So the you know, there was a lot to be
Speaker 2: said about that. I got swept under the rug. So Peter,
Speaker 2: Peter l if you will. He was the head of
Speaker 2: He was a partner at one of the big three
Speaker 2: accounting firms on Wall Street, Ernst and Young, and then
Speaker 2: he left that job and took a job as the
Speaker 2: VP of finance at the headquarters of a General Electric.
Speaker 2: This is at a time when General Electric folks like uh,
Speaker 2: you know former Wall streeter turned journalist dude, Charles Ortel,
Speaker 2: who out of the Clinton founded He's done, he got
Speaker 2: he went real deep into the Clinton Foundation, out in
Speaker 2: that as a fraud. But he he would point out
Speaker 2: before he did that, he outed General Electric as a fraud.
Speaker 2: So Lanz's father was the head of finance for a
Speaker 2: multi billion dollar global corporation that was outed as a
Speaker 2: fraud in the years preceding that event.
Speaker 4: The fuck, it's almost like the same recipe as the
Speaker 4: military intelligence kids becoming like pop culture icons. Now you see,
Speaker 4: like the financier scientific community, their kids, they are the
Speaker 4: ones who are all getting thrown into the mix.
Speaker 2: It's funny you say that. It's funny you say that
Speaker 2: because isn't that kind of the deal with an almost
Speaker 2: I mean, that is a repeating pattern we do see.
Speaker 2: I mean Thomas Crooks folks for psychologists, my former almost
Speaker 2: pr rep and stalker who wanted to stab me a
Speaker 2: bunch and wear my skin as a human coat buffalo
Speaker 2: Jared Visa. He's from an infamous sports hygnosis family, you know.
Speaker 2: So these things are they seem to be repeating patterns,
Speaker 2: messing with folks heads, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and just like sacrificing your kid to the cause
Speaker 4: because who knows what kind of dirt they have on
Speaker 4: your leverage.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Well that's a good point, sir. And how much do
Speaker 2: some folks care about their kids? I guess this is
Speaker 2: the next question.
Speaker 4: Yeah, not a lot.
Speaker 2: I feel like, let's look at tonight's stars of one
Speaker 2: of tonight's films. Go ahead, Julia, go ahead.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I was just saying they don't care about
Speaker 1: their kids.
Speaker 4: Is that Arnold's son that's not the one from the Maid?
Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna address that. I'm glad you're way
Speaker 2: ahead of me, Sarah like that, you know, And I'll
Speaker 2: figure we might as well formally address some of these
Speaker 2: matters here when we're talking about Nazi genetic experiments. Starring
Speaker 2: in a film by a Nazi son, and then you know,
Speaker 2: he's just he marys and Kennedy. You know, this is
Speaker 2: his Kennedy son, right, this is Maria Schriver's kid. What
Speaker 2: you mean to tell me that they're just there was
Speaker 2: a maid living in that home. Notice how much they
Speaker 2: look alike. I mean I could see that's his son
Speaker 2: to a certain degree. Right, he seems to resemble more
Speaker 2: striving Kennedy.
Speaker 4: But you know I can he's kind of kind of
Speaker 4: a mix.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see some smartal traits there. They got
Speaker 2: the same eyes and brow Ridge. They got that you
Speaker 2: know chrow magnum man brow ridge something going on, that.
Speaker 4: Great terminator hairline going on.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, and he's got the candy hair. It'll
Speaker 2: be gone in ten years, you know, that's how it goes.
Speaker 4: I wonder like this at some point because they don't
Speaker 4: need to.
Speaker 2: Tell me that this kid is living in their home
Speaker 2: for thirteen years before it's formally addressed that that's a
Speaker 2: young Arnold.
Speaker 4: Come on, now, see he looks more like him than
Speaker 4: the other boy, way.
Speaker 2: More like him, right, I think so? So the maid
Speaker 2: his mother and Arnold. You know, apparently he banged the maid, right,
Speaker 2: and then they had this guy, and they're living in
Speaker 2: the Arnold house and and like knowing like they're sitting
Speaker 2: You mean to tell me they're sitting around a breakfast
Speaker 2: and no one's being None of the kids are like, hey,
Speaker 2: that Max kid looks a lot like dad.
Speaker 4: So the story was she had a kid and it
Speaker 4: wasn't his, and they just played on. I don't know
Speaker 4: the details of it until it came.
Speaker 2: Out this is Mexican Arnold all day, dude, all that.
Speaker 4: He was living with the family.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they didn't formally, you know, address it
Speaker 2: publicly until he was thirteen. So I wonder, like, I
Speaker 2: want to know what went on before then? Were they
Speaker 2: just sitting around like, hey man, that Mexican kid looks
Speaker 2: a lot like dad. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Why does he talk like this?
Speaker 2: It's bench in three point fifty at least six years old.
Speaker 2: That ain't right.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, there's no way like I would know,
Speaker 1: I would know.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm sure there was, you know, known on a
Speaker 4: small level.
Speaker 1: Dude, I kicked that kid in the fucking head if
Speaker 1: I thought you were, it's certainly possible.
Speaker 2: But you know, publicly, they were on to maintain the
Speaker 2: appearance that's what caused the divorce. But you know, but
Speaker 2: it begs the question did they really know? It was
Speaker 2: just like, was folks ignoring this till it just became
Speaker 2: a thing? We're like, wait a second, we just got
Speaker 2: to address this now.
Speaker 4: So what year was this particular photo taken?
Speaker 2: Uh, this is more recent years. This is his high
Speaker 2: school graduation.
Speaker 4: So this is like what you can call me dad.
Speaker 2: Now, oh he's this is like he's I think he's
Speaker 2: twenty five.
Speaker 4: I think now this was I remember when it broke,
Speaker 4: but I don't. The time frame is a little fuzzy.
Speaker 1: Does he go by the last name short Shitter?
Speaker 2: No, he goes by Joseph Bania Baniya. Looks like he's
Speaker 2: hetty big dude, those six two, right, and he's got
Speaker 2: some good size, not quite as big as his dad.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't like the movie that were decoding tonight
Speaker 1: where the Kennedy brothers, the tall one in the Mexican Brothers,
Speaker 1: Danny Devitos.
Speaker 2: I mean, on the subject of all these things Kennedy
Speaker 2: and you know, because again you know, not that Kiddeana Kennedy,
Speaker 2: but the other one is right Patrick right. And you know,
Speaker 2: it's interesting because there seems to be a lot of
Speaker 2: folks in that family. They don't have the right dad
Speaker 2: like jfk Jor. You can't convince me that is the
Speaker 2: John F. Kennedy Senior is his father, you know, that's
Speaker 2: that's the son of Aristotle on Nassas. I don't know
Speaker 2: who you're kidding, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Let me see, so they were a photo for you.
Speaker 4: They were intermingling even back then.
Speaker 2: Huh Oh, she was known to have affairs with him. Yeah,
Speaker 2: for sure, that's what I'm saying. Like she was it
Speaker 2: was like publicly, like tabloid material that she was having
Speaker 2: an affair with Onassis already.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. And this whole time I thought he
Speaker 1: looked like John.
Speaker 4: I never thought he looked like him.
Speaker 1: Really, Let me, is this guy handsome who I'm about
Speaker 1: to say?
Speaker 4: Well, he married Jackie Post? Well he was old. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't know what he looked like when he was younger.
Speaker 2: I don't know what I did with my my side
Speaker 2: by side. Let me pull some peatos now, I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, he's an old Greek dude. They uh much
Speaker 2: like old Greek women. They you know, they look the
Speaker 2: same as old Greek men, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Oh god?
Speaker 4: And wasn't he gays?
Speaker 2: Yeah? We're Kennedy, Kennedy, I think a little bit of right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, all those guys, but I just turned
Speaker 4: on asses. This was a whole like beard situation.
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. I mean, that's certainly possible, right,
Speaker 2: I looks, you know, especially in this fatter looks a
Speaker 2: little bit sweet cheeks. Get this one up here for you.
Speaker 2: I have no I had a side by side because
Speaker 2: I was just going over this year. That ain't gonna
Speaker 2: work because that's too tiny.
Speaker 1: But this is, my god, Oh no, that really does
Speaker 1: look like him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he looks it looks little sweet and the
Speaker 2: cheeks that and I can see where he likes it,
Speaker 2: you know, a little uh swing, a little action, all
Speaker 2: directions like the rest of these people.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, JJ why.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, here's the other deal that now never talks
Speaker 2: about with old mister JFK. Juniors. He clearly inherited the
Speaker 2: membership in the Society of the Cincinnati from his grandfather
Speaker 2: Boo via Jacqueline's his mother's father when he was born.
Speaker 2: It looks like.
Speaker 1: This looks like if you took Jackie and him, it
Speaker 1: would be JFK Jr. Of course. Yeah, the hair line
Speaker 1: in the I got eyebrows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a real I have a real good picture.
Speaker 2: I just can't find it. So only uh, I mean look,
Speaker 2: I mean at the end of the day, does he
Speaker 2: look JFK Junior looks more Mediterranean right than he does.
Speaker 1: Irish side of things.
Speaker 4: Well, now you see this too, that's it. I've never
Speaker 4: heard this one either. It's almost as like, you know,
Speaker 4: Woody Allen being what's his name's dad?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we just covered that last Friday. I got that
Speaker 2: right here for you.
Speaker 4: You need that one, my god, Yeah, that's his kid. Fuck,
Speaker 4: that's that's as bad as Trudeau and Castro.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, right, that's what I'm saying, right, absolutely, yes, ma'am. So,
Speaker 2: I mean it brings in a lot of elements, of
Speaker 2: a lot of equations that I think a lot of
Speaker 2: these things go on. We just may not recognize it publicly, right,
Speaker 2: you know, we're starting to see behind the behind the curtain,
Speaker 2: so to speak. Does that make sense? My back? Did
Speaker 2: I disappear?
Speaker 1: You disappeared? What was the last thing you said?
Speaker 2: I said? I said, you know, I think this isn'tive.
Speaker 2: You know, we keep on bringing up these who is
Speaker 2: your daddy? Different examples, and I think it's indicative of
Speaker 2: these things have been going on with amongst these crowds
Speaker 2: of folks for a long time. We just didn't have
Speaker 2: the information available to look at it. You know, you
Speaker 2: gotta look at it first.
Speaker 4: And well they've been swinging. They've been swinging since culture
Speaker 4: was even established.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, dude, absolutely, yeah, right. You can't convince me Ronan
Speaker 2: Pharaoh is the son of allan get out of town.
Speaker 4: No fucking way. He looks just like Frank. That one
Speaker 4: is as bad as true in Castro as well. And
Speaker 4: then this this one that you just presented totally totally
Speaker 4: new to me. But I didn't even know that she
Speaker 4: was running with him that early. I thought that kind
Speaker 4: of was like an arranged thing, But I never looked
Speaker 4: into that one was Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean juicy Bouvier puss and got her pregnant. Oh
Speaker 1: my goodness.
Speaker 2: Well, since we're getting into the matters of film here
Speaker 2: to night in this film review, and I do appreciate
Speaker 2: y'all both join me here to get a little GCD
Speaker 2: and you folks of the innerwebs as well. But when
Speaker 2: when we talk out Aristotle Anassis, we can see him
Speaker 2: in the films of James Bond or or Austin Powers,
Speaker 2: either one. But Blowfield, the James Bond villain who Mike
Speaker 2: Myers parodies is doctor Evil. That is that is a
Speaker 2: parody of that's a representation of Onassis. Yeah. Well, here's
Speaker 2: another fun fact. If you're not familiar with James Bond films,
Speaker 2: those are some of my my favorites, Sean.
Speaker 4: I grew up the rest of the watch, so I've
Speaker 4: seen seen most of them.
Speaker 2: That's where I started to sir yep. And if you're
Speaker 2: familiar with the Casino Royal, which they only did recently
Speaker 2: as a remake, but they did it initially, was just
Speaker 2: not the official James Bond, right, you know films right
Speaker 2: through the Ion films or whatever. But the Blowfield and
Speaker 2: a fellow by the name of la Schette or the
Speaker 2: Two Villains, and that both of those films, the remake
Speaker 2: and the original. I think the original had Peter Sellers
Speaker 2: in it. Speaking of Laurel Canyon scene, I think he.
Speaker 2: I think he played James Bond and uh yeah, it
Speaker 2: was kind of a comedy take out. Again, it wasn't
Speaker 2: an official one, but nonetheless it's based off the same book.
Speaker 2: But by you know, Ian Fleming in La chet Is
Speaker 2: Alista Crowley.
Speaker 4: So was this Peters? Was this before the Pink Panther series?
Speaker 2: Yeah, this has been like nineteen sixty five. I think
Speaker 2: this was before the first Connery Bond. Maybe maybe kind
Speaker 2: of contemporary to it.
Speaker 4: They just decided to do another take with the more misty,
Speaker 4: mysterious and sleek.
Speaker 2: It's kind of funny because I don't know, man, remember
Speaker 2: when Sean Connery made his own Bond outside of the franchise,
Speaker 2: Never say Never.
Speaker 4: Again, that's outside of it. I have seen that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a remake of his previous film was a Goldfinger.
Speaker 2: I'll look it up. So he did one of his
Speaker 2: early Bond films in the official Bond series, you know,
Speaker 2: and the Ion Films produced Bond series. He did one
Speaker 2: film and then he remade that and to compete with
Speaker 2: Roger Moore's film. And he had previously told his wife
Speaker 2: that he would never I'm a huge I mean as
Speaker 2: a scotsman, I'm a big Connery fan. But he's a
Speaker 2: great actor. But in a Bond, you know, he's my
Speaker 2: favorite Bond. But he had told his wife he'd never
Speaker 2: played Bond again. So when he sold out in this
Speaker 2: independent bond film to compete with Roger Moore's Bond. You know,
Speaker 2: he jokingly named it never Say Never Again.
Speaker 4: So did he get kind of booted or did he
Speaker 4: quit on his own terms?
Speaker 2: He didn't want to be type cast again. I'm a
Speaker 2: I'm a I'm a Connery superfan, and so he didn't
Speaker 2: want to get type cast as the boss.
Speaker 4: Not to stab your touss here, but I'm thinking he
Speaker 4: had a little Tom Brady syndrome. He was sitting on
Speaker 4: the sidelines and saw someone else.
Speaker 2: Do Bond and he was like, fuck this, Oh absolutely
Speaker 2: due in a comical way, right. He made it a
Speaker 2: funny title. You know, he came out there with some balls,
Speaker 2: and it competed with it at the box office. I
Speaker 2: don't think it won, but you know it did. It
Speaker 2: did pretty well. But it's funny how they do that
Speaker 2: with these Bond films. So this Casino Royal I was
Speaker 2: referring to was not not the the official Bond, right,
Speaker 2: So it was Thunderball. So this this was a remake
Speaker 2: of Thunderball. So he had done Thunderball, one of his
Speaker 2: early Bond roles, and then he literally remade the same
Speaker 2: movie and called it never say Never again. So I
Speaker 2: kind of like that. I kind of liked that idea
Speaker 2: that you know, a few to Hollywood.
Speaker 1: Was shot data devoted Nazi.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, man, we're about to get into that. That's
Speaker 2: what I was heading with this whole Uh. You know,
Speaker 2: we're already seeing a lot of these villainous characters throughout
Speaker 2: film series we may not really recognize. For example, most
Speaker 2: folks don't realize that the one of the villains from
Speaker 2: you know, you know, the main one of the main
Speaker 2: villains in Bond, you know, is based on the Anassis
Speaker 2: and there's another Greek shipping magnet that was, you know,
Speaker 2: like on Asses. I think they matched them together. But
Speaker 2: obviously Ian Fleming knew Alistair Crowley, and he said, that's
Speaker 2: this character is based off of him. This, uh, well, shift.
Speaker 1: The shift. Yeah, that guy is always playing a bad guy.
Speaker 2: Creepy night.
Speaker 1: He always is playing a bad guy. They they replaced
Speaker 1: Johnny Depp with that guy in the new Harry Potter movie.
Speaker 4: I don't even know who is it?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: You haven't seen him in like a million movies.
Speaker 2: Mad's Michelson.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Matt Michelson.
Speaker 4: I don't fuck with Harry Potter.
Speaker 2: Well, he was mad mad as he was.
Speaker 1: Hannibal in the new Hannibal series.
Speaker 2: Okay, that it looks good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he played the ship out of it. I loved it. Actually,
Speaker 1: it's very cerebral. Both of you guys would love it.
Speaker 1: You've never you never entertained it.
Speaker 2: I've heard of it. I didn't know that was him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's him. He's always I'm telling you, he's always
Speaker 1: playing a freaking bad guy.
Speaker 2: So sixty seven, Oh, go ahead, he's.
Speaker 1: Got the Ethan hawk teeth where his two friends are
Speaker 1: pushed back and his k nines come out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that's a creepster when you see that.
Speaker 2: So the this is the nineteen sixty seven unofficial Casino
Speaker 2: Royal version. The film which cast it wasn't. Peter Seller
Speaker 2: is in it, but David Niven is this guy, This
Speaker 2: British fella. You'd recognize his face. He's that British guy.
Speaker 2: And everything was the Bond and then in the cast
Speaker 2: that included Peter Seller's Ursula Andrews, which she would later
Speaker 2: play in actual other Bond films, Orson Wells and Woody
Speaker 2: Allen not not Ronan Pharaoh's dad not not that's a
Speaker 2: big no. Isn't that weird though, that they make the
Speaker 2: you know again, it's uh, there's a lot of the
Speaker 2: same cast of characters there with what we were already
Speaker 2: talking about involved in the production of these things. Sometimes
Speaker 2: I just like to think that they like all these
Speaker 2: spooks stories because it's always spooks, right, and all of
Speaker 2: these I mean, the os S, the CIA. This is
Speaker 2: all founded not by like, you know, hardcore combat dudes.
Speaker 2: These were all literary dudes from Yale, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like how you see the Fabian Society guys
Speaker 4: writing all the fucking dystopian future shit. It's just like
Speaker 4: very similar in that way because they know it and
Speaker 4: then they like break it down to you in a
Speaker 4: predictive programming any kind of way.
Speaker 2: For sure. Have you ever y'all ever heard of this
Speaker 2: film before we get into the which again, I know,
Speaker 2: it's not that far off. This is about a Nazi
Speaker 2: global assassin team that are you know, Mrking presidents, you know,
Speaker 2: like the French president you know, and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: I've never seen it.
Speaker 2: Warren Baby, yeah, starring one of the young Turks, one
Speaker 2: of Laurel Canyon's own, right, You're right, So This film
Speaker 2: is based on a book written by Lauren Singer. Lauren
Speaker 2: Singer Radier. Yeah, and Lauren Singer is a OSS officer
Speaker 2: from Project paper Clip.
Speaker 1: Oh, shut the fuck up.
Speaker 2: I can't I can't make the ship up. Man, I
Speaker 2: can't make the ship up.
Speaker 1: What the fuck is this?
Speaker 2: Yeah? He was sent to Yale again Literary Major Offices
Speaker 2: of OSS study the Malay language, but the war ended
Speaker 2: before he could serve active duty. Wall With the OSS,
Speaker 2: Singer learned details of covert operations that became the theme
Speaker 2: of many of his novels. That's true, That's very true.
Speaker 2: So a lot of these guys and beat a lot
Speaker 2: of things in their novels. The guy that wrote Ship,
Speaker 2: Harlan Ellison, he wrote a number of sci fi stuff.
Speaker 2: He wrote that one dog, uh movie or story was
Speaker 2: turning in a movie about a boy who his dog
Speaker 2: told him to eat somebody. You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it sounds very burka WITZI well.
Speaker 2: It came out right after I think in film adaptation, right, no,
Speaker 2: right before it, right before it. So this dude, he
Speaker 2: sued James Cameron, I think in one for copyrighting fringement
Speaker 2: over to the Terminator story and he was an OSS
Speaker 2: dude what or I'm trying to he was either ANS.
Speaker 4: Dude or he like, this is Don Johnson, right, yeah,
Speaker 4: this is Don Johnson film. I've seen this, this is
Speaker 4: It's a crazy movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah. That was the basis of Terminator.
Speaker 3: No, no, no.
Speaker 2: This this guy right here, though, was the writer who
Speaker 2: sued Cameron and one Ever copyright over the storyline of Terminator.
Speaker 2: He didn't, if I remember correctly, he didn't. Uh, he
Speaker 2: wasn't OSS, but he uh he had there's a I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't remember the details, but off to search my
Speaker 2: brainhole at a later date. But he famously embeds some
Speaker 2: very CIA style uh messages and tactics in some of
Speaker 2: his sci fi stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean James Cameron's always seemed like one
Speaker 4: of those fucking propped up guys to me. Oh really,
Speaker 4: Oh for fucking sure.
Speaker 3: I love his work.
Speaker 4: He's oh dude, he's one of the ones who you know,
Speaker 4: if he's attached to something, it's propaganda.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh for sure, Yeah, oh big time.
Speaker 4: I mean think about it. You got the fucking He
Speaker 4: covers the ocean phenomena with the abyss, the whole transhumanist
Speaker 4: slash uh pallanteer type thing with the terminator Mills fucking
Speaker 4: Avatar made people depressed. People wanted to go live in
Speaker 4: that world, and I mean it was just.
Speaker 1: What do you get to say about Aliens?
Speaker 4: His Alien movie is my least favorite backar it, so
Speaker 4: we find about just all the time. It's the one
Speaker 4: that does not fit into.
Speaker 1: The states, the best one that it was ever made.
Speaker 4: Anyway, we argue about this sometimes the greatest film ever
Speaker 4: Aliens Amiens.
Speaker 2: No, but yeah, I think he's a creepy dude in
Speaker 2: my opinion, but this one's super creepy. This I don't
Speaker 2: even why they make us in a film, but this
Speaker 2: is right before Berkowitz. But yeah, talking dog tells the
Speaker 2: kid to go and murder someone, to eat them and stuff.
Speaker 2: It's you know, it's fun, it's a family event. It's
Speaker 2: a family film. You know.
Speaker 1: I just want anybody who's in the chat right now,
Speaker 1: if you think Aliens is the best out of the franchise,
Speaker 1: please speak up, because I'm feeling lonely over We're.
Speaker 4: Gonna hear crickets.
Speaker 2: So in regards to all these matters, I feel like
Speaker 2: a lot of these things we're talking about with this
Speaker 2: kind of oss stuff. Right again, a lot of these
Speaker 2: folks are betting these things. These are the folks, no
Speaker 2: matter what they want to ship with. Their Wikipedia is about,
Speaker 2: oh he got out, didn't see the actor, dude to
Speaker 2: get out of town. You know, that's probably what they
Speaker 2: say about tricky Dick Nixon and his OSSO and I
Speaker 2: duties right, you know, Oh he was just in an office. Okay, thanks,
Speaker 2: thanks for playing. I don't buy it. So because none
Speaker 2: of these none of these things were addressed until a
Speaker 2: few months after, you know, no Nazi stuff, and there
Speaker 2: was no Nazis officially in America until a few months
Speaker 2: after Warner von Braun died. Then the Department of Justice
Speaker 2: opened up their official investigation and folks like Gavin Newsom's
Speaker 2: dad got busted. And shortly thereafter Auto von deuschbag you
Speaker 2: famier with that guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I saw someone in the chat mention him a
Speaker 4: little bit earlier when we were talking about dad.
Speaker 2: So, Gavin Newsom had his father, Willie Newsom, looks nothing
Speaker 2: like him, had a business associate within the Getty you know,
Speaker 2: the the Getty family, the Getty business empire. You know,
Speaker 2: Newsom was an attorney. This guy was running the business
Speaker 2: interests right, and his name was Auto von Bolschwing. I
Speaker 2: call him AUTI on bullshit or a lot of on douchebag.
Speaker 2: But he looks just like his his son Gavin in somewhere.
Speaker 2: I'll have that photo. Holy smokes, y'all caught me off guard.
Speaker 2: Am out of on bullshits and I put on that
Speaker 2: note you you'd asked earlier if you know if Anasis
Speaker 2: was gay, And I mean, like I said, I don't
Speaker 2: know if that's the thing with these people. They just
Speaker 2: do whatever they want, you know what I mean? Oh,
Speaker 2: look at this that one right there. That's Jack Kennedy's
Speaker 2: private boarding school roommate and as a child, and he
Speaker 2: continued to live with Jack his entire life, including the
Speaker 2: White House.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they were TechEd him and interns together.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: That's his boyfriend, yo.
Speaker 2: His name is Limb Bellings. He shed there was there
Speaker 2: was reports on eleven, twenty two sixty three that he
Speaker 2: was shedding a tear and Jackie was looking happy.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, she really she really posed for that shock photo, right,
Speaker 4: I mean that was act.
Speaker 1: No, she was in on it, really, I think so.
Speaker 4: I think she if the pull I don't even know
Speaker 4: if it was real the footage we saw, But if
Speaker 4: that footage is real, I.
Speaker 2: Like your head's add sir, because when we're dealing with
Speaker 2: all these Nazis, so everything about our film tonight is Nazis,
Speaker 2: Nazi genetic experiments in the aerospace, Nazi industry. We see
Speaker 2: a lot of that in there tonight, But we're dealing
Speaker 2: with all that in the Kennedy assassination stuff too, from
Speaker 2: uh George de Moornshield, who was you know, cited now
Speaker 2: basically proven as Oswald's handler. Well, he was actually Jackie
Speaker 2: Kennedy's godfather since at the age of seven she called
Speaker 2: him uncle George.
Speaker 1: What the fuck?
Speaker 2: That's true story? And I agree with you, we don't
Speaker 2: know what happened Rider Lee and his documentary jfk X,
Speaker 2: I highly recommend I subscribe to that. Yeah, that one.
Speaker 2: Please describe your thoughts on that police, sir.
Speaker 4: I think that if you look into it deep enough,
Speaker 4: that was very much doctored footage. It took what almost
Speaker 4: a fucking decade for them to put it out even
Speaker 4: and there are missing frames. And I also I think
Speaker 4: it's weird. The Vanity Fair just released an article last
Speaker 4: November about how they were fucking filming Jazz and his
Speaker 4: buddy getting killed.
Speaker 2: And they used the same secret service detail. It was
Speaker 2: on duty that day in Dallas in the film, and
Speaker 2: Jackie was the director because she was a professional photographer.
Speaker 2: That's how she met JFK. So I think she was
Speaker 2: kind of already honey trapped into him in the first place.
Speaker 4: So to me, it's either a fucking total staged event
Speaker 4: or she was in on killing him. I can't be convinced.
Speaker 4: I think it's one of those two. I mean, that's
Speaker 4: where my head usually.
Speaker 1: Is, fucking sake.
Speaker 2: So and I'm your way again. You're way ahead of me, sir.
Speaker 2: I like your head's at because we were talking about
Speaker 2: James Bond stuff on purpose with some of these things
Speaker 2: is because we really don't know about these matters and
Speaker 2: what we do know, you know, the no knowns If
Speaker 2: you will, it makes us wonder did it ever really occur?
Speaker 2: Right y? JFK stage's own murder and a James Bond
Speaker 2: inspired film two months before his assassination starring everyone you
Speaker 2: saw there in Dallas that day, So we don't even
Speaker 2: know what we saw that day versus another day. Et cetera,
Speaker 2: et cetera. But what we do know is that there's
Speaker 2: a bunch of Nazis involved, and the first, my first
Speaker 2: rule in life is never trust the Nazi.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 4: That's why. That's why do you believe in the moon landing?
Speaker 2: Exactly right? The so in all of that stuff with
Speaker 2: the Nazis immediately goes back to the ancient alien cargo
Speaker 2: cult fuckers, you know, like the ancient Yep, there you go,
Speaker 2: you see, you know, I'll go, dude, I will go
Speaker 2: full bone ancient alien cargo cult fuckers here. But there's
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 4: There is some you probably already have this, but there
Speaker 4: are some actors in this movie that are scientologists.
Speaker 2: Once again, Sarah, you're way ahead of me. I like
Speaker 2: your heads out there.
Speaker 4: So my question is you do it?
Speaker 2: How many like? So that's what you know. Before we
Speaker 2: get into those particulars here and dive into the Twins
Speaker 2: film here, how many times can you act starring opposite
Speaker 2: a scientologist and not be a scientologist? What are your thoughts?
Speaker 4: I mean that pretty much encapsulates all of Hollywood. If
Speaker 4: you're doing degrees of separation.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, let's take Danny DeVito for example, we
Speaker 2: see Danny DeVito here in this film opposite Arnold Schwarzenegger,
Speaker 2: son of the Nazi, And I'll get to that here
Speaker 2: in a second, Juliet, because he's definitely the son of
Speaker 2: a Nazi, despite all the you know, all the shit
Speaker 2: coating around it. But we see Danny DeVito in the film.
Speaker 2: Look who's talking? This is you know, he did the
Speaker 2: taxi stuff you know beforehand, right, but we see him
Speaker 2: in the nineties, late eighties. He's not doing a lot
Speaker 2: of you to throw Mama from the train. That was
Speaker 2: a decent film, I guess, But you know, people with
Speaker 2: Judge rein Holden, Yeah, you know, those are decent. I'm
Speaker 2: not going to lie to you that I enjoyed those.
Speaker 2: I don't like Billy Crystal unless it's City Slickers but
Speaker 2: or that one. But you know this, really, you know,
Speaker 2: in the nineties he was really Look who's talking. He
Speaker 2: was one of the voices, right, that's yeah, that's John
Speaker 2: Travolta and Kirsty al and Bruce Willis is the baby's voice.
Speaker 2: So when Travolta marries Tonight's star Kelly Preston, it's a
Speaker 2: very small ceremony, and it's Bruce Willis. I mean more,
Speaker 2: uh Rea Pearlman and and Dan de Vito. You know
Speaker 2: those are both couples, so it's a very small and
Speaker 2: it seems like all those couples there might have been scientologists.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I would think so, right.
Speaker 1: And Kelly Preston may or may not have a penis.
Speaker 2: Whoa, Okay, let's hear that one. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I've heard that one came up with this, right, No,
Speaker 4: I didn't know.
Speaker 1: It's not just me. And there's actually a family guy
Speaker 1: joke about it.
Speaker 4: Well, Kelly Preston, say what, there's a family guy joke
Speaker 4: about it.
Speaker 1: There's even a family guy joke about it.
Speaker 2: Well, you know it's you know, it's a fact a
Speaker 2: family guy jokes about it. I didn't think there was
Speaker 2: someone jerking off at the end of the film Teen
Speaker 2: Wolf until I watched Family Guy, and I was like,
Speaker 2: holy shit, family guys onto something here.
Speaker 4: Isn't he just like clapping with his dick hanging out?
Speaker 2: I've heard all these excuses. What's whatever's going on? There's inappropriate,
Speaker 2: So I don't need to see that the end of
Speaker 2: the children's film.
Speaker 4: I noticed it before I had even heard of it.
Speaker 2: Oh, I did not notice it. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I saw it.
Speaker 4: This was the the internet was like still a new thing,
Speaker 4: and I got online looking to see if anybody else
Speaker 4: knew about it, and there was like a whole group
Speaker 4: of people.
Speaker 1: Okay, well he doesn't have a penis.
Speaker 2: You're you're you're an early adopter, Kolby. I will give
Speaker 2: you that, sir.
Speaker 4: You were like to watch films and scan for dicks.
Speaker 2: I don't know why.
Speaker 1: It just Dix though. He can watch a movie one
Speaker 1: time and like say all the quotes from the movie
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't even remember watching it. You
Speaker 1: remember every little detail.
Speaker 2: I recently watched the film and Julia joined me here
Speaker 2: for the film review along with Jonathan Mitchell. There the
Speaker 2: son of Sam blog the Ghost Story, and I was
Speaker 2: I was offended. I was bombarded with some full frontal
Speaker 2: dick stuff in the first few minutes of that film,
Speaker 2: without warning, with no disclaimers.
Speaker 4: Don't watchim Stones, whatever.
Speaker 2: You do, I will note to self, I will not you.
Speaker 2: But and Ghost Story, you don't have to look for it.
Speaker 2: They just that's just right in your face, man, right
Speaker 2: in your face hole. It's aggressive. So what's actually I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to do a lot of clips because
Speaker 2: the speaking of Nazis, the YouTube Nazis don't like that.
Speaker 2: But I do have a couple of clips. One of
Speaker 2: my favorite scenes because I got to introduce that. But
Speaker 2: on the first one introduced the kind of the folks
Speaker 2: aren't familiar with the film, the nineteen eighty eight cinematic
Speaker 2: masterpiece Twins, brought to us by Ivan Reitman and starring
Speaker 2: Arnold Schwarzenegger, Danny de Vito, Kelly Preston's one of ze news.
Speaker 2: So well, I don't think she's on Earth anymore. Maybe
Speaker 2: she's in recycle mode. But formerly they want to see news, uh,
Speaker 2: Guardians of the Earth from scientology, you know, and a
Speaker 2: number of other kind of character actors. But those are
Speaker 2: the big ones, right mm hmm.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the the bad guy that plit what's his name,
Speaker 4: he was supposed to pick up the car.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's kind of like a familiar face.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, he's always that guy.
Speaker 2: He's always that kind of cowboy doucebag. Right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's one of those character guys you're.
Speaker 1: Talking about, the hannibal guy always.
Speaker 2: So I got a clip room we kind of introduces
Speaker 2: the film, and and kind of the you know, the
Speaker 2: the dual nature of what we're looking at here, because
Speaker 2: these two twins are nothing alike. You never negotiated. You
Speaker 2: don't know what kind of an enemy I am. Who
Speaker 2: are you Vincent's brother twins? That's right, your you not.
Speaker 2: I have not respect for those who notice logic. You're
Speaker 2: very stupid. Was so we get arnold you know Arenie there,
Speaker 2: he's the well well educated, uh you know, freak of nature.
Speaker 2: It was born of a Nazi experiment but then shipped
Speaker 2: off to an island in the South Pacific, right, and
Speaker 2: that our narrative.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I mean just the backstory of this movie.
Speaker 4: It already lays out like a shit show of intelligence
Speaker 4: conspiracy stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because they're right in your face. Well then
Speaker 2: they then Danny DeVito that kind of got he was
Speaker 2: the accident, got shipped out second, and they explained it
Speaker 2: later right as he was the waste product kind of
Speaker 2: of the of the situation.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's almost like the main fetus shed all of
Speaker 4: its defects and that went into the little guy. But
Speaker 4: I find it interesting that they specify in the movie
Speaker 4: within the first I don't know, ten minutes that it
Speaker 4: was American scientists were with Germany.
Speaker 2: And the first five minutes that's how they open it up, right,
Speaker 2: They're like, hey, this is this is a NATS experiment.
Speaker 2: We're at Los Alamos, We're in this genetics lab. We're
Speaker 2: in the basement. And then I got I got a
Speaker 2: clip of that of that, not that scene, but the
Speaker 2: basement scene when they go back and discover it. Because
Speaker 2: when they go back and discover it, when Arnold and
Speaker 2: Danny go back and find this Nazi scientist fella, they're
Speaker 2: Los Alamos still alive, you know, in their journey of discovery.
Speaker 2: Here we're going to discuss. It's funny because he opens
Speaker 2: the door. He's like, oh, we locked this place up
Speaker 2: five minutes after you were born, as if to imply
Speaker 2: there was no more other genetic experiments. I kind of
Speaker 2: thought that was funny.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: But so Arnold gets shipped and he's educated and gets
Speaker 2: all this kind of preferential treatment in childhood, if you will,
Speaker 2: versus what Danny de Vito gets. He goes to an orphanage, right,
Speaker 2: he's got a very Edward when Edwards style childhood, if
Speaker 2: you will, put rat shit escaping orphanages you know that
Speaker 2: sort of thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, the character's not even announced on the
Speaker 4: likability scale. He's like one.
Speaker 1: Vincent oh Dane DeVito.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so where did you Did you find anything interesting
Speaker 2: about the namesake for these characters, Julius and Vincent Benedict.
Speaker 4: When Julius Benedict comes up, it just kind of it
Speaker 4: seems like an amalgamation almost. I mean, your pick of
Speaker 4: famous Julius isn't famous Benedicts. But right, it's very Yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't know. Did you dig anything specific up on that?
Speaker 2: No, I just thought it was very interesting. Just I
Speaker 2: don't know. Just I figured there's some sort of nature
Speaker 2: why they chose those names. I'm not exactly verse well
Speaker 2: enough to understand it, but.
Speaker 1: I'm always the one who does the names, and I
Speaker 1: thought somebody else would do it, so I skipped it.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I figured Drew missing and you.
Speaker 2: That's all right, man, but be fair, I'm never the
Speaker 2: name person. I'm terrible with names. That's why I have
Speaker 2: initials is my own. That way, I won't forget it.
Speaker 2: Double J right here. That's how I know where I'm at.
Speaker 2: But no, that's all right. The so we do find
Speaker 2: out that they're real in your face real like, again,
Speaker 2: I want to formally address the fact that they put
Speaker 2: the son of a Nazi starring in a genetics you know. Again,
Speaker 2: he can call it a comedy, which it is obviously comedy,
Speaker 2: but the precept of which wasn't well known in nineteen
Speaker 2: or nineteen eighty eight, because again, the DOJ didn't then
Speaker 2: start investigating until seventy eight, you know, and they didn't
Speaker 2: start deporting Gavenusom's dad until nineteen eighties, So these weren't, like,
Speaker 2: you know, commonly known things. In fact, I don't think
Speaker 2: Schwarzenegger had been raked over the coals yet until the
Speaker 2: nineties by the Simon Wisenthal Center, So.
Speaker 4: At this point nobody knew he.
Speaker 2: I think it was rumored. Yeah, I think it was rumored,
Speaker 2: but they were trying to shit coate it, you know,
Speaker 2: They're like, oh, he's not really a Nazi, but no,
Speaker 2: he was a brown shirt. No, he was definitely a Nazi.
Speaker 4: Well, he could even Arnold in real life, could even
Speaker 4: be the subject some kind of experiment, like I was
Speaker 4: gonna say that.
Speaker 1: He's like one of the ugliest human beings I've ever
Speaker 1: seen in my life.
Speaker 2: Well not once once again sir, you beat me to
Speaker 2: the punch, and I do salute you on that because
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you. That was my first question
Speaker 2: when we're gonna get into the plot line the night
Speaker 2: is how is this explained to me? How this is
Speaker 2: not a documentary about Arnold's life? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, So does that there's some little, tiny, short guy somewhere.
Speaker 2: With well maybe that's maybe that's fictionalized, but I do
Speaker 2: think he's some sort of experiment. You know, there's a
Speaker 2: it's been many years. I'm throwing pot on myself right
Speaker 2: now when I'm trying to roll this. But we'll get
Speaker 2: back to that in a second. So you saw in
Speaker 2: two thousand and three when he was running for governor,
Speaker 2: you know, the governator in California, the Cape Cod Times
Speaker 2: broke an article about his Nazi dad, which I find
Speaker 2: is interesting because that's where the Kennedys live and Kenny Bunkport.
Speaker 2: So that some inner family warfare, like hey, let's let's
Speaker 2: nark out Old Arnie for his Nazi dad right now,
Speaker 2: because that's really when it exploded, was around that time. Right,
Speaker 2: It is a fact.
Speaker 4: It is a fact, you know, so not just a
Speaker 4: Nazi a fucking brown shirt, like.
Speaker 2: Right, oh dude, yeah, and they try to shitcoat it now,
Speaker 2: like wait, well he only signed up in forty one
Speaker 2: after Austria was, you know, kind of invaded by Nazis.
Speaker 2: And then no, no, that's not actually true. He actually
Speaker 2: signed up in thirty eight, so you know they're like,
Speaker 2: oh shit, you know that was when Austria was still free,
Speaker 2: So when Austria hadn't even been invaded by Nazis. He's like,
Speaker 2: sign me up to be a fucking.
Speaker 4: Nuts no ship. That is convenient timing.
Speaker 1: So what's a brown shirt?
Speaker 2: So the brown Shirts were the folks. They were the
Speaker 2: really militant wing of h This was a military police, dude.
Speaker 2: So they're like the militant wing of the Nazi.
Speaker 4: Militias, the militant of the Nazis.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they weren't the SS, but they were like, you know,
Speaker 2: almost as ardent of a Nazi I suppose, right.
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, that article he pulled up. I liked
Speaker 4: the name. It was Arnold's dad is a Stormtrooper or what?
Speaker 2: Well that's what Yeah, the brown Shirts, that's what they
Speaker 2: recalled the Stormtroopers. They did a lot of damage, Crystal
Speaker 2: knocked and he wasn't part of the unit during Crystal Knocks,
Speaker 2: but that was the unit that did Crystal knock. You
Speaker 2: don't familiar that night of the It's the lungs, the
Speaker 2: long knives.
Speaker 4: Long knts say, the short swords, the short swords.
Speaker 2: Well, then you know there's short bus short swords.
Speaker 4: Long knife is a short sword.
Speaker 2: One man's knife is another man's sword. You are correct, sir.
Speaker 2: So that I got a I got a little background
Speaker 2: here on Gustav. So this is the Wikipedia version, the
Speaker 2: source of all information on the interwebs. So he was
Speaker 2: an Austrian police chief, a goonder, common taunted whatever that means,
Speaker 2: postal inspector, member of the storm balling the essay. So
Speaker 2: this is the essay. This is them. This is the
Speaker 2: brown Shirts, right, this is the original, the original paramilitary
Speaker 2: group under Adolf Hitler. Like I said, they were, you know,
Speaker 2: when they were Nazi enough, they made the s s right,
Speaker 2: but these guys were still pretty nuts.
Speaker 3: This is his dad.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I always.
Speaker 4: Whenever I think of Arnold now, I just think of
Speaker 4: him during COVID telling us to wash our hands three
Speaker 4: thousand times a day and then saying that fuck your freedom,
Speaker 4: that's what he said.
Speaker 2: Uh huh, he said, well it makes sense, right, I
Speaker 2: mean that sounds like there's someone Nazi would say, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ugly inside and out. That's what I heard. He
Speaker 1: is a fucking freak of nature, like no humans should
Speaker 1: look like that.
Speaker 2: I don't disagree.
Speaker 1: His face is ugly, his body is weird.
Speaker 2: The Night of the Short Swords though, that was the
Speaker 2: that was the really big, big bloody event there. But
Speaker 2: he that was before old Gustaff joined. But nonetheless, you
Speaker 2: have to understand that's the context in which Gustaff joined.
Speaker 2: Austria had not been taken over yet. He's like, signed
Speaker 2: me up for Nazi stuff, and he's like, in fact,
Speaker 2: I want to join that group that was really reckon shit,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, that's goofstuff. That's Arnold's dad.
Speaker 2: So you know, if anyone's going to be part of
Speaker 2: a Nazi experiment, I think he's a great example. Now,
Speaker 2: there was a book in the nineteen nineties written, that
Speaker 2: Secret and Suppressed book. Y'all heard of that. So in
Speaker 2: that book, I think it was Peterman, the guy that
Speaker 2: kind of does all that bullshit around the Montak stuff,
Speaker 2: if you asked me. But Nonetheless, I just I don't
Speaker 2: think this is a true story. I just think it's
Speaker 2: an interesting story. And the fact that, you know, somebody
Speaker 2: wrote a book in one of these conspiracy books in
Speaker 2: the nineties, like oh, you know, an anthology type of book,
Speaker 2: and one of the chapters was Mark Hamill being the
Speaker 2: product of a Nazi science experiment.
Speaker 4: That one tracks too well.
Speaker 2: In fact, as far as what we're talking about tonight,
Speaker 2: with these Nazi New Mexico operations, a Colonel Hamil was
Speaker 2: the man in charge for the US Army out there,
Speaker 2: so I've done my best to try to connect him
Speaker 2: and Mark. But I can tell you this, when I
Speaker 2: start looking at a lot of folks family lineages and trees,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of folks that intentionally obfuscate and shit
Speaker 2: coat things. And the Hammils aren't the least of which
Speaker 2: are one.
Speaker 4: Of them, Well, you're an ex Mormon, you could get
Speaker 4: the records just well play nice.
Speaker 2: That's my point. Folks go through an effort to keep
Speaker 2: a lot of these things off of databases and indexes.
Speaker 2: That's the kind of extent of what we're talking.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but the Mormon database is fucking I think that's
Speaker 4: the best one we have.
Speaker 2: Here right now, I would agree with you. But even
Speaker 2: on that, folks like the Bouvia's Jacqueline Bouvier's family, someone
Speaker 2: back about one hundred years ago, is intentionally obfuscated the
Speaker 2: actual Boovia line. And again it is these matters I
Speaker 2: think they're trying to hide. You know what if Arnold
Speaker 2: some sort of fucking, you know, Nazi experiment, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? Why what you know? Again, you put
Speaker 2: him in a comedy about that. If someone's ever suggest
Speaker 2: that instead of Mark Hamill, then they would laugh at
Speaker 2: you even more because you're like, what did you see
Speaker 2: the movie Twins? Is that why you're saying that?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So when we see uh, we see Danny DeVito is
Speaker 2: basically a piece of shit in life, right, He's in
Speaker 2: an orphanage, escapes a lot, does a lot of crime stuff,
Speaker 2: and Arnold comes to America. Coming to America, we find
Speaker 2: him going to Los Angeles and he's getting greeted in
Speaker 2: the proper Los Angeles form and fashion, probably no different,
Speaker 2: maybe even a little bit worse than you might get
Speaker 2: greet it today. But it brings about one of my
Speaker 2: favorite Arnold quotes of all times. And I got a
Speaker 2: clip for us right here, that's the wrong clip. I
Speaker 2: did nothing Pavement Enemy.
Speaker 1: You know, this is the this was the first time
Speaker 1: I'd ever seen this movie. JJ.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, I forgot to ask you, Koby, And this
Speaker 2: wasn't his first time, was it, sir? This was this
Speaker 2: was your first time though, Julia hunh.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this one was definitely in rotation with like a
Speaker 4: dozen or so movies growing up.
Speaker 1: See Kolbe actually should have been on this. So I
Speaker 1: married an axe murderer.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that that one I got into probably in my
Speaker 4: early to mid teens, and it was one of my favorites.
Speaker 1: J It's now one of my favorites too, because it
Speaker 1: was absolutely.
Speaker 4: Well, it's Mike Myers at his best, even though there
Speaker 4: was a big struggle in the behind the scenes of
Speaker 4: that filming with you know, the screenwriting rights and all
Speaker 4: that ship.
Speaker 1: Well, since JJ mentioned coming to a man, I know
Speaker 1: he didn't mention like the movie, but it made me
Speaker 1: think of something I put in my notes. In twenty twelve,
Speaker 1: they were gonna do a sequel called Triplets. Did you
Speaker 1: know that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: It was gonna have Eddie Murphy as their long lost
Speaker 1: triplet brother was one.
Speaker 4: Of the dads black because they did. They didn't go
Speaker 4: through all of them.
Speaker 1: Well they didn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was too he was too sadly, Eddie Murphy
Speaker 2: was too busy making sure transgender hookers got thrown off
Speaker 2: the top of buildings.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: That was the remake of his activity in the nineties.
Speaker 2: He was just repeating it, you know, like they're do
Speaker 2: in Hollywood. You all familiar with those stories.
Speaker 4: I mean, I know the scenario. I haven't really done
Speaker 4: any digging, done any digging, so you know, I know
Speaker 4: the situation. But did she end up dead?
Speaker 2: Multiple of them? Did multiple of them? Table?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Well he got busted with yeah here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got busted with a training hooker. He's like, oh,
Speaker 2: I had no idea that was a dude. You know.
Speaker 2: That was when we told the cops, right, uh huh.
Speaker 2: And then that dude, that dude happened to fall off
Speaker 2: the top of its building, your balcony, you know, depending
Speaker 2: on accounts, a couple of days later. But then a
Speaker 2: couple of its friends apparently, and he also had some
Speaker 2: experiences with also met an early demise. This is where
Speaker 2: Andrew Breitbart got his start. He was writing about he
Speaker 2: actually did an investigative journalist effort on this matter back
Speaker 2: on the website he did in the nineties called Big Hollywood.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did see that though. What is interesting though,
Speaker 2: as far as sequels go, they did kind of set
Speaker 2: up the end of this film for a sequel, and
Speaker 2: they almost you know, I don't want to spoil them.
Speaker 2: I'll put a pen in it later for the end
Speaker 2: of the the end of the discussion. As far as
Speaker 2: my take on that, the final scene, we get introduced
Speaker 2: to some uh you know, potential, you know, setting it
Speaker 2: up if they could do a sequel, But it had
Speaker 2: nothing to do with the triplet situation, right, So go ahead.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say I kind of did my
Speaker 1: review on some of the stuff that I noticed about
Speaker 1: the movie, not so much like the movie itself, like
Speaker 1: this stuff in the backgrounds and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: I like it. I think that's important. I think a
Speaker 2: lot of these things. I don't think these things are
Speaker 2: ever done unintentionally. I mean, the amount of work and
Speaker 2: effort that goes is just just to set up a
Speaker 2: scene for filming. I mean, this is not a These
Speaker 2: are long days spent, you know what I mean. While
Speaker 2: they're getting stuff set up, right, It's not a it's
Speaker 2: not a hasty effort, right.
Speaker 1: Right, That's what I You know, I've been doing these
Speaker 1: movie reviews for what four years now, just on and
Speaker 1: off different movies, and I've come to the conclusion that
Speaker 1: nothing is really an accident. Like where they choose to
Speaker 1: film things, the buildings they use, the stuff in the
Speaker 1: background music, the costumes, like everything is significant in some way.
Speaker 1: Obviously the places that they mentioned in the movie I
Speaker 1: think are significant because it could have been anywhere. But
Speaker 1: it's Los Alamos, New Mexico, it's Los Angeles, it's you know, Houston, Texas.
Speaker 4: Like why like why the McKinley Aerospace all Nazi stuff, right,
Speaker 4: all Nazi stuff.
Speaker 2: And they make sure the problem, right.
Speaker 4: They make sure you see it because there's that final
Speaker 4: chase scene at the end when what's his name Webster
Speaker 4: I talked about him before, the character actor the killer guy, the.
Speaker 2: Killer Oh you're talking about beat Root.
Speaker 4: No, it's that's the guy, the delivery guy that Webster.
Speaker 4: Webster's chasing Danny DeVito down the halls of this aerospace place,
Speaker 4: and you just see the logo fucking plastered everywhere, like
Speaker 4: they want you to see it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, he was in Starship Troopers total recall. Right,
Speaker 2: he played the little He played the dude who had
Speaker 2: the alien, dude who's running shit that Schwarzenegger was trying
Speaker 2: to find in total recall.
Speaker 4: Oh, this this is Webster.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's Webster.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 1: Was he in stand by Me?
Speaker 2: That's a good Oh he's one of the dads.
Speaker 1: Oh, he's one of the dads. I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: that's a movie I watched seven hundred times as a kid.
Speaker 2: Y'all know what I'm talking about with the alien thing
Speaker 2: though from a yeah, total recall, it was a Guatto
Speaker 2: or something. It was a Philip K based on a
Speaker 2: Philip K. Dick's story.
Speaker 1: Right, So he was in two movies with Arnold Schwart
Speaker 1: Schitter at least.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of crossovers, Yeah, circles. He was
Speaker 2: the he was the guy where the alien was in
Speaker 2: his like under his coat or whatever he was. But
Speaker 2: he was the host of Gwatza or whatever. But yeah, well,
Speaker 2: if you think about it, Arnold Ivan Rightman and Danny
Speaker 2: Devita would later team up in another Genetics film called.
Speaker 4: Yes This One is even I think this one's got
Speaker 4: even more juice.
Speaker 2: To it. Okay, well I've seen this one. What do
Speaker 2: you got for me?
Speaker 4: Oh, I mean, I'd have to sit down and kind
Speaker 4: of dissect it. But it is weird that they teamed
Speaker 4: up again for like a genetics type movie, but like
Speaker 4: people just even like the I didn't even know this
Speaker 4: was ivan rightman, but just the the predictive programming of
Speaker 4: men having babies kind of thing that was in this
Speaker 4: because you know, that was a laughing topic at that
Speaker 4: point when the movie.
Speaker 2: Was sure, dude, no one like the idea of men
Speaker 2: being women at this time was not an idea even
Speaker 2: remotely in the mindset of American society.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I just want to say, it's not
Speaker 1: pregnant person. If I hear somebody say pregnant person one
Speaker 1: more time, I'm gonna lose my fuck.
Speaker 4: It's a birthing person.
Speaker 2: It's birthing people's birthing.
Speaker 1: People, birthing people.
Speaker 2: Pregnant exactly in case they're a plural one in themselves, right.
Speaker 2: I think these folks need to learn to send grammar.
Speaker 2: They they failed something there. I don't know what happened,
Speaker 2: but they don't know grammar. They thems.
Speaker 4: I hate that ship because it's guys, hate beach, We're
Speaker 4: gonna get kicked off.
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck about hate. I'm sitting here
Speaker 1: eight months pregnant, and if somebody calls me a pregnant person,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna slap the face.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think these things are too too far different,
Speaker 2: these matters of question, not only the genetics experiments from
Speaker 2: Twins or the men women birthing people stuff from Junior that,
Speaker 2: you know, these Nazi matters, it's all anything human experimentation.
Speaker 2: I declare outrise Nazi. But we see, we see folks
Speaker 2: that put the folks pushing the trans humanists agenda, the
Speaker 2: Baphomet stuff. This is all neo probably SSS, you know,
Speaker 2: nonsense with the Baphomet and the reconciliation of opposites. We
Speaker 2: see it within the neo process movement of the Satanic
Speaker 2: Temple with the you know, their Baffo met logos and
Speaker 2: their statues. So they're Nazis. They're Nazis, the process.
Speaker 1: And where in the South Pacific.
Speaker 2: Nothing that says one hundred miles south of Fiji. I
Speaker 2: believe it was miles south of Fiji.
Speaker 4: They make vague references to it throughout the film, but
Speaker 4: I mean, this has all got me wondering if like
Speaker 4: Arnold himself is just like another Laurel canyonesque type O.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean I've never really.
Speaker 2: How sooner a way to dispel any of these rumors,
Speaker 2: Like let's just say, you know, at the same time
Speaker 2: again that Mark Hamill piece is getting written in some
Speaker 2: major publication of conspiracy culture, you know, in the nineties.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, let's say there was these ideas of
Speaker 2: Arnold floating around. What better way to dispel that than
Speaker 2: to make a comedy saying that Arnold's a Nazi experiment
Speaker 2: because they tell us he's the product of six fathers.
Speaker 2: And you may be thinking that sounds ridiculous, that sounds ridiculous,
Speaker 2: but that's not that ridiculous. It's really not. In fact
Speaker 2: that I don't want to get that. I'm not a scientist.
Speaker 2: I'm also not the vice president. But you know, as
Speaker 2: far as you know the ideas of in vitro fertilization goes,
Speaker 2: you know, they don't take the sperm of a father
Speaker 2: and put it into the donor eg of a mother.
Speaker 2: What they do is they takes skin cells. So if
Speaker 2: you took skin cells from six dudes and then put
Speaker 2: them into the donor eg of a mother and then
Speaker 2: jam that turkey baster up some lady, you know Mary
Speaker 2: and you know the mother in this film, right, Benedict.
Speaker 2: Then there you go. You got six dads and one
Speaker 2: human being in an embryo. There popped it in you.
Speaker 2: Technically you don't have to put in a mother's embry
Speaker 2: or DNA in there at all. You could just put
Speaker 2: the six dads. And they don't tell us they did that.
Speaker 2: They don't tell us that we had presume that's the case.
Speaker 2: But an in vitro fertilization, that may not be the
Speaker 2: case because there's a large degree of for example, normally
Speaker 2: and in vitro stuff, these app the donor egg. If
Speaker 2: a mother can't have healthy eggs, then they zapp a
Speaker 2: donor egg from a mother's egg healthy to egg to
Speaker 2: remove all the DNA from that from that egg. So
Speaker 2: if they were just to put in six dudes, and
Speaker 2: that sounds like what they're describing with Arnold, they don't
Speaker 2: ever really describe and specific the mother's involved in it
Speaker 2: at all. They just describe she's the she's the she's
Speaker 2: the basically the oven they're cooking it in, but they
Speaker 2: also imply that they're all banging this lady.
Speaker 4: Yeah, at least one of them was.
Speaker 2: For sure. Yeah, I would say I would say that
Speaker 2: scientists fell the fat when she gets angry at there
Speaker 2: towards the end one of the skills of beans. They
Speaker 2: seem to know each other on a biblical level, if
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And to go back to your earlier point, they
Speaker 4: kind of poo poo the idea throughout the movie. They
Speaker 4: keep calling it them. Oh, that's where the milkshake was made.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So there's like no sex
Speaker 2: involved or even though they're all banging, or it sounds
Speaker 2: like the mother the scientists are banging, or the two scientists,
Speaker 2: the six donor dads, but you know it's they don't
Speaker 2: describe her being involved, and that that does you know
Speaker 2: that is there is a scientific basis for that. And again,
Speaker 2: you know, the idea of cloning is I think, you know,
Speaker 2: you know, cloning. So like Dave Chappelle died yesterday and
Speaker 2: he was the new Dave Chappelle today looks exactly the
Speaker 2: same same age and everything. I don't that's not what
Speaker 2: I call cloning. I'm saying, like the idea of taking again,
Speaker 2: not if you want to make a person and you
Speaker 2: you don't put in a mother, you just put in
Speaker 2: the father, and then you want to make a six
Speaker 2: dudes into one personal. That's what we see here in twins,
Speaker 2: right when they put six donor dads in the into Arnold.
Speaker 1: The only thing that doesn't make sense to me is
Speaker 1: they would have to have used two eggs right to
Speaker 1: make Danny de Vito or else.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, he was They explain it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they explain it.
Speaker 4: He was the accidental like shut off of this really
Speaker 4: perfect embryo.
Speaker 1: But wouldn't they be identical then?
Speaker 4: No, he even says, like, we're not identical twins.
Speaker 2: He's no.
Speaker 4: No, They don't really explain it down to the nitty
Speaker 4: gritty of the scientific terms. But it was like a byproduct.
Speaker 2: He was just like the fraternal twins don't often look
Speaker 2: alike either, Like fraternal twins can look pretty different.
Speaker 4: And you can have a boy and a girl yep, ye,
Speaker 4: But they do.
Speaker 2: They do imply that he's just like it was a
Speaker 2: part of the experiment that that that it just branched
Speaker 2: off that like the cells that they had developed new
Speaker 2: to dump the bad stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like the imperfections just lumped all together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they only did it one time, and they
Speaker 2: closed the doors and they locked it for the next
Speaker 2: fifty years, as they told us, right for forty years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's an awful like nasty.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: I actually have something to say about that because it
Speaker 1: says that, uh Julius was raised by one of the
Speaker 1: professors named Warner.
Speaker 2: I saw that. Now he's one of the scientists, right,
Speaker 2: you had named Warner. I thought, was that a nod
Speaker 2: you think to von Braun.
Speaker 1: Well, I actually can tie it all together for you
Speaker 1: if you want me to.
Speaker 2: Yes, ma'am, yes, ma'am, please do so.
Speaker 1: I do think that that was specific that he would
Speaker 1: be raised by this guy, professor Warner, and the whole
Speaker 1: the fuel injector thing or whatever that he steals and
Speaker 1: then he goes to like the uh.
Speaker 2: Well, there you go. That's the big that's the big
Speaker 2: nod to the Nazi. So we got the Nazi geneticist, right,
Speaker 2: we got the loss almost that where the all the
Speaker 2: Manhattan stuff is with the atomic bomb with the Nazis,
Speaker 2: but we also get the full scale aspect of the
Speaker 2: aerospace portion of it with not only the jet, the
Speaker 2: jet injector, was the fuel injector, this new advanced fuel injector.
Speaker 2: But if you look in the scene where they go
Speaker 2: to the the dude to uh, the engineers, right and
Speaker 2: the hitman mirksome right, you know that the two engineers
Speaker 2: that hired the hitman to go deliver the goods the
Speaker 2: stolen engine, right, well, they have nothing but rockets all
Speaker 2: in the background there, right, they have It's all. It's
Speaker 2: nearly a nod to NASA.
Speaker 1: That's why I think that they chose the professor it's
Speaker 1: name to be Warner on purpose, because he also has
Speaker 1: like a weird accent and shit, you know, he's clearly like.
Speaker 4: Well and they try to like make him look like
Speaker 4: the good guy in the movie. Even at the end
Speaker 4: where they all reunite, he's there and he raised Julius, but.
Speaker 2: There was once against her, once against You're spot on,
Speaker 2: please continue.
Speaker 4: I think, like, well, if there was secrets kept, he
Speaker 4: was the one keeping the secrets. He's the one raising
Speaker 4: him in isolation. He's the one who doesn't tell the
Speaker 4: mother who apparently at by the end of the movie
Speaker 4: you see that they're close. So she's blaming the other guy,
Speaker 4: the villain of the movie, the guy in New Mexico.
Speaker 4: But the real villain is the guy that raised him.
Speaker 1: He also put him through And if you look on Wikipedia,
Speaker 1: it says that Professor Warner put Julius through rigorous physical
Speaker 1: training and like homeschooling programs and.
Speaker 2: Like he was part of. So I think that's what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Like towards the end though, I like we're
Speaker 2: at with that, because suddenly Schwartz well, while we're back
Speaker 2: on the topic, go ahead and hit where my where
Speaker 2: my brain holes at? We see Schwarzenegger and Avido suddenly
Speaker 2: with twins of their own that the German scientist warners
Speaker 2: back in the picture, he seems to me banging Marianne
Speaker 2: the mom again, Benedict right again. She seemed to have
Speaker 2: a bad history with the other scientists. That's why she
Speaker 2: she seemed pretty salty with him. Although you know, these
Speaker 2: folks did say told her that the children that Arnold
Speaker 2: died and she didn't even know about the Vito, right,
Speaker 2: So there was that aspect of it. They did lie
Speaker 2: to her, right, But nonetheless, like she's got a lot
Speaker 2: of money, she's a an artist. Community in Taos in Mexico,
Speaker 2: New Mexico, reminds me of Dennis Hopper, who had an
Speaker 2: artist's retreat in Taos, New Mexico. But you know, back
Speaker 2: to more of these processes in Nazi kind of things.
Speaker 2: But nonetheless, I took the impression that the children they had,
Speaker 2: the twins that Schwarzenegger and Devido have at the end,
Speaker 2: they're just doing more Nazi experiments with the same Nazi
Speaker 2: guy who's back, right, Warner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I actually have one last thing, And you
Speaker 1: might think I'm stretching, but I hope you can get
Speaker 1: where I'm going with this. So this is the first
Speaker 1: time I ever watched this movie, so I noticed still
Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff that if you were watching it
Speaker 1: for like the twentieth time, it might not mean anything
Speaker 1: to you. But it was bizarre to me that when
Speaker 1: Julius gets on the airplane that he would be listening
Speaker 1: to a song that came out in the fifties, Like
Speaker 1: why wouldn't they have the movie came out in what
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine about yak Ye Yackty. Yeah, it stood
Speaker 1: out to me because first off, I love this song,
Speaker 1: but it's like it wasn't really that funny him singing it,
Speaker 1: and it didn't make sense for the time period because.
Speaker 4: Or it doesn't have like a tie in, it doesn't
Speaker 4: have a TI.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was super cheesy, super because I saw this
Speaker 2: film at the drive in when it came out in
Speaker 2: the drive in to the theater, I definitely saw it.
Speaker 2: I think it was the drive drive like a double
Speaker 2: a double feet. I remember seeing this movie in another movie.
Speaker 2: I remember it was in a theater on the drive in,
Speaker 2: but it was like, you know, the back to back
Speaker 2: double feature kind of deal, and the uh, it just
Speaker 2: it wasn't funny, even as a child like this was.
Speaker 2: It wasn't a funny moment you know you're aiming for. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it didn't play for children or adults, right, because you're
Speaker 2: an adult and I saw as a child for the
Speaker 2: first time you saw an adult, and it's not funny, right,
Speaker 2: It's just not funny.
Speaker 1: It wasn't funny. And I didn't understand why they used
Speaker 1: that song several times through. So when this movie was
Speaker 1: being made, I just wanted to say what the top
Speaker 1: songs were that they could have used. So the top
Speaker 1: four songs in nineteen eighty eight were faith Uh, George.
Speaker 2: George Michael, I apologize.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I need you tonight in excess. Okay, got my
Speaker 1: mind set on you, George Harrison.
Speaker 2: That would have been the only Beatle with a number
Speaker 2: one hit, our top ten hit.
Speaker 1: And never gonna give you up. So why did they
Speaker 1: use yakty yack? Right, that's my question to you. And
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you why I think they used
Speaker 1: yaka yak. But do you kind of see where I'm
Speaker 1: going with this?
Speaker 2: I do? I like your heads at man. Do you
Speaker 2: want me to go first? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Go, you go first, and then I'll tell you why
Speaker 1: I think they used it.
Speaker 2: I was going to bring up this exact topic, so
Speaker 2: once again, I like your heads that you're way ahead
Speaker 2: of me here. But let me just play a quick
Speaker 2: video here before we get into that.
Speaker 4: So, so, how how are all of those little wave ripples?
Speaker 4: How are those so perfectly matching what's in the video?
Speaker 2: All the all dispersial patterns look the same.
Speaker 4: This is like saying that my butthole is your butthole
Speaker 4: because they're similar, right, It's not being we don't have
Speaker 4: the same butthole.
Speaker 2: Because of that, you're using buttle a lot of context.
Speaker 3: You're talking about botholes making everyone feel weird.
Speaker 2: That's the point that was. That was for you, man.
Speaker 2: I figured he'd enjoyed that half time.
Speaker 1: I loved it. I loved it so much. I'm the
Speaker 1: butthole person.
Speaker 2: I knew you were a fan of the word. I
Speaker 2: didn't realize you were so heavily focused on that phantom
Speaker 2: in the beginning of the show. So it was a
Speaker 2: good Uh, it's good lead in good leading.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, as far as the music goes, I took note
Speaker 2: of the same thing. So we have what we what
Speaker 2: we're dealing with at the soundtrack of this film is
Speaker 2: we're introduced to Arnold getting on a boat, and he's
Speaker 2: somewhere south of Fiji and gets on a raft and
Speaker 2: starts paddling somewhere and gets on a plane somewhere maybe Hawaii,
Speaker 2: it seems right, flies back to Los Angeles. When he's
Speaker 2: on that plane, he's singing that Yaka Yac song. So
Speaker 2: all of the music is pre Laurel Canyon, kind of
Speaker 2: early late fifties early sixties rock, and I do find
Speaker 2: that interesting because that is before before the same time
Speaker 2: Laurel Canyons popping off is the same time the Nazi
Speaker 2: aerospace industry is setting up shop in El Segundo, California,
Speaker 2: a small municipality just outside the Los Angeles airport, so
Speaker 2: it almost builds us same time frame.
Speaker 1: Right again, This movie came out in nineteen eighty eight,
Speaker 1: and they used another song, which is I Only Have
Speaker 1: Eyes for You. Why in nineteen eighty eight do you
Speaker 1: need to put two old ass fucking songs like that
Speaker 1: in the movie. You know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 2: Should put your book?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I Only have Eyes for You and Yakkadyac.
Speaker 4: Great song though, yeah, but it didn't hit the movie well.
Speaker 4: All these though, right, it does tie into the plot
Speaker 4: because it's what it's what Vincent says to is not
Speaker 4: really his girlfriend, even though she thinks so.
Speaker 1: So why do you think they used Yakadiac before? I
Speaker 1: don't let the cat out of the bag.
Speaker 4: I don't know why they used that one. That one
Speaker 4: it also confuses me.
Speaker 1: So I'll just tell you guys. Why I think they
Speaker 1: used it and why they made such a big deal
Speaker 1: about it is because Yaka Yac came out in nineteen
Speaker 1: fifty eight. It was the top song of the year
Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty eight and also in nineteen fifty eight,
Speaker 1: they established NASA Warna von Braun. In nineteen fifty eight,
Speaker 1: they established DARPA, and in nineteen fifty eight they launched
Speaker 1: the Explorer one, which marked the beginning of the space
Speaker 1: race for the United States. All of that happened. The
Speaker 1: number one song that year was Yaka yac and.
Speaker 4: It's teaching compliance.
Speaker 2: Goddamn, that is a barn burner of some fun facts
Speaker 2: you got there. I do appreciate that. That is a
Speaker 2: good Nazo, I think because again we see this all
Speaker 2: the music is that pre era before the Nazis will
Speaker 2: even go into Los Angeles, and that is where we
Speaker 2: see the start of the film.
Speaker 1: And it's not funny when he sings it. Did you
Speaker 1: think it was like, it's not funny.
Speaker 2: Well, it's never funny when an things about it being
Speaker 2: Nazi stuff, right, But yes, so that's.
Speaker 1: Why I think they used it. It was the number
Speaker 1: one song the year NASA was established, dark Ba the
Speaker 1: space race that every So the day that NASA was established,
Speaker 1: somebody in there was listening to fucking yakay yak on
Speaker 1: the radio.
Speaker 4: Probably all the time. It's probably on a loop with
Speaker 4: like FA and I only have ice for you. Yeah,
Speaker 4: did that come out.
Speaker 2: Let's see, wouldn't that be creepy? Of Like Warner von
Speaker 2: Braun's favorite song was this yakitty yack when he's just stuff.
Speaker 2: He's just yaki yacking it up pretty wild.
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe it was just his choice, right. Well, that
Speaker 4: one came out in fifty nine, so the next year.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Like I said, I mean all this music is
Speaker 2: of an error that it does not really fit with
Speaker 2: the storyline and stuff, so that I don't think it
Speaker 2: does seem to be intentional, right, it does.
Speaker 1: Seem to be intentional. And I do have some other
Speaker 1: stuff that I want to talk about, you know, whenever
Speaker 1: you guys are ready, But did you want to go
Speaker 1: over some of your notes first?
Speaker 4: I mean my stuff. I had some weird stuff about uh,
Speaker 4: Sylvester Stallone because Schwarzenegger and Stallone in their movies they
Speaker 4: would like give nods to each other. They did one
Speaker 4: in Twins.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: In Demolition Man they talk about Arnold Schwarzenegger becoming president
Speaker 4: and he's like, no way, he gep you good rid it,
Speaker 4: and Sander Bullock says, because the whatever amendment to the Constitution.
Speaker 4: And then in the Last Action Hero, the little kid
Speaker 4: wants to prove to Arnold Schwarzenegger's character that he's really
Speaker 4: an actor that does anything that. Yeah, you remember where
Speaker 4: he takes him to the movie story to show on
Speaker 4: and he's a blockbuster. He finds Terminator two poster and
Speaker 4: he thinks he's hit pay dirt and it's Stallone. So
Speaker 4: they always let you know. They established a planet Hollywood
Speaker 4: with Bruce Willis, who you already mentioned earlier with the
Speaker 4: wedding and for sure, so yeah, I just found that.
Speaker 2: What's that they're definitely part of the same crew, right right, Well,
Speaker 2: Stillane is a deep and scientology. So if Heim and
Speaker 2: Travolta were boys back when he did still Learn directed
Speaker 2: Staying Alive. He also helped choreograph it, right, and.
Speaker 4: He has a cameo too where he's walking down the sidewalk.
Speaker 2: And and uh, he's all Also, he he helped raise
Speaker 2: John Travolta's son. If you ask me stage stallone looks
Speaker 2: that's that's Travolta's boy, get out of town. That one.
Speaker 4: Actually, I can see that. I never thought he looked
Speaker 4: like Stallone.
Speaker 2: Oh no, not at all. I got that one. I
Speaker 2: gotta get that bowl swing on deck for y'all. Still
Speaker 2: get that before the end of the show. But I
Speaker 2: got my Travolta stage stage stillone right here, please stand by.
Speaker 2: But yeah, they're definitely part of the same crew. They
Speaker 2: do always do that nod with each other too, don't they. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you mean to tell me that ain't Travolta's boy, Get
Speaker 2: out of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe they mixed made of little milkshake. I can
Speaker 4: see a little bit of both.
Speaker 1: You see a little bit of both.
Speaker 4: I can see stallone in there. Look at the eyes
Speaker 4: drooping like look right here, that looks if you hold
Speaker 4: your hand over his nose and look at the eyes,
Speaker 4: that could be still.
Speaker 2: A scientology milkshake here. Then maybe there you go?
Speaker 1: There you go?
Speaker 4: I mean, who was running with Warner fucking Eleron?
Speaker 2: Right right there you go. That's what I'm saying. That's
Speaker 2: I think that's really the true secret. A lot of
Speaker 2: these things, these ideas seem far fetched on their surface,
Speaker 2: and even conspiracy culture folks still try to wrap the
Speaker 2: brain holes around them. But I'm I think they're far
Speaker 2: more accepted in standard practice than we're we have any
Speaker 2: understanding of.
Speaker 1: And what was that thing? I know you wrote something
Speaker 1: about it at the end of the movie when they
Speaker 1: talk about the Rand.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they they give a nod to the Rand Corporation.
Speaker 4: They say, the Benedict Corporation is like the Rand Corporation,
Speaker 4: only smarter. I don't know why she's jumping all the
Speaker 4: way to the end of the movie.
Speaker 2: That I missed that all together. That's fun, dude, because
Speaker 2: that's definitely CEI stuff right there with the Rand Corporation.
Speaker 4: Right, And why would they say in nineteen fucking eighty eight,
Speaker 4: like the Rand Corporation, no household name back then. I mean,
Speaker 4: maybe it's not at all, not at all.
Speaker 1: That's why the Yaki Yak things stood out to me.
Speaker 1: It's like the whole the thathing makes fucking actual sense
Speaker 1: in the movie for the time period.
Speaker 2: No, I agree, totally. No, they're not. These aren't common
Speaker 2: ideas in the time period at all.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: I mean I remember even seeing it, like you know,
Speaker 2: these it was it was treated as if it was satirical,
Speaker 2: because that was not that was how far fetched even
Speaker 2: kind of in the general mindset of the public, where
Speaker 2: you know, these Nazi science experiments were going on.
Speaker 4: Mmmmm.
Speaker 2: You know, I was only eight, but I had a
Speaker 2: pretty good grasp of what adults were saying about it
Speaker 2: at the time too, you know, And I've always been
Speaker 2: a big film, film, film fan, big fan of film,
Speaker 2: you know reviews. I used to write my own reviews,
Speaker 2: you know, you know back then as well, just for
Speaker 2: whatever reasons, just for myself. But nonetheless, you know, these
Speaker 2: things were not like you know, Siskel and Eber would
Speaker 2: definitely review the film as two thumbs up, but you know,
Speaker 2: definitely uh treating it as if it was kooky.
Speaker 4: Right See, you got Biodome pulled up here?
Speaker 2: Are you familiar with the film Biodome.
Speaker 4: Biodome made it into the cinematic loop in my household,
Speaker 4: probably like later teens.
Speaker 2: Oh man, I was a big poly you know, I'm
Speaker 2: happy and I'm not really happy to it mat but
Speaker 2: like I will admit, I was a big poly Shore fan.
Speaker 4: I still dig poly Shore. And also, Steven Baldwin's best
Speaker 4: acting is in this movie. He pulled off that part
Speaker 4: very well. It's like a Keanu Reeves esque performance.
Speaker 2: Right, It's pretty good film. Now, in the film Twins
Speaker 2: that we're reviewing tonight, did you notice that the aerospace
Speaker 2: engineers who have invented this new fuel injector that is
Speaker 2: being sold and folks are getting murked over, right, did
Speaker 2: you notice they worked at the biodome.
Speaker 4: I did not know that.
Speaker 2: Now, that's not the real biodem. This building is actually
Speaker 2: in Van nys See.
Speaker 4: Gotcha, similar design, but.
Speaker 2: What well, no, that's the building the show. They just
Speaker 2: show that in Biodome claiming that's the biodome, But it's
Speaker 2: really this building in Van Eyes, the same one. That's
Speaker 2: the one they show. But when we but the actual
Speaker 2: there is an actual biodome in Arizona, though that's just
Speaker 2: not what it looks like. That's just the one they
Speaker 2: used from the film right right as the outside. But
Speaker 2: speaking of that, did you know that I think both
Speaker 2: in the project of the biodome and the film, Steve
Speaker 2: Bannen was funding both.
Speaker 4: He well yeah, I mean I didn't know he funded
Speaker 4: the film.
Speaker 2: But I'm pretty sure he was a producer on the
Speaker 2: film as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because a lot of people who caught on to
Speaker 4: him in the Brightbart days don't realize that he was
Speaker 4: like a run of the mill Hollywood guy there for
Speaker 4: a while, behind the scenes of a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know how he was definitely in Hollywood.
Speaker 2: If you call being business partners with David Geffen.
Speaker 4: There you go, you know, I mean, imagine those parties
Speaker 4: look like nothing.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a really wild film. First of all,
Speaker 2: Patty Hurst makes an appearance. That's wild. Roger makes appearance.
Speaker 2: That's wild.
Speaker 4: Right, I didn't know he got one of those.
Speaker 2: You got a scientologist, Jack Black, Right, you're doing a
Speaker 2: bunch of eco terrorism nonsense. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe
Speaker 2: he was definitely involved in the real Biodom. He's not
Speaker 2: listed as a producer, but I'm pretty sure he was
Speaker 2: involved in the production of this film.
Speaker 4: To get back to that one, what happens if you
Speaker 4: just google Steve Bannon Biodome.
Speaker 2: Your computer blows up. Dude, No one wants to talk
Speaker 2: about Steve Bann and some of his stuff. Maybe we'll
Speaker 2: have to do review on that one in the future.
Speaker 2: I love Biodome because he was definitely involved in the
Speaker 2: actual Biodome, which is weird too.
Speaker 1: Okay, where is it?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: I got something else about Danny DeVito. Something he says.
Speaker 1: So it says that Vincent was placed in an orphanage
Speaker 1: run by nuns. We fucked one of them, and he
Speaker 1: sucked one of them when he was thirteen.
Speaker 4: He said, I think twelve.
Speaker 2: Do you do you want to hear a fun fact
Speaker 2: about Ed Edwards? He got.
Speaker 1: Oh cut out right at the out JJ. We have
Speaker 1: to carry the show, well, can't until he comes back.
Speaker 4: My back in my back, Yes, we were gonna go
Speaker 4: on a tangent about none fucking and then you.
Speaker 2: Well at Ed Edwards. Would they get thrown out of
Speaker 2: the Parmadale orphanage up in near Cleveland, Ohio at the
Speaker 2: age of almost thirteen, in part for banging a nun?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: My god?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do they do? He never reminds me of it?
Speaker 2: What's it?
Speaker 4: What did they do? The nuns?
Speaker 1: Obviously the nuns are pedophiles.
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, like cycle him around?
Speaker 1: Then are pedophiles?
Speaker 2: Yeah? This well, well this one none at least had
Speaker 2: had was famous for tying Ed to the tree and
Speaker 2: doing weird ship too him.
Speaker 1: So see that's what I'm talking about, mother trees and
Speaker 1: type of shit. They're all weirdos.
Speaker 2: But I'm telling you, when I watched this film again,
Speaker 2: you know, I've watched it so many times. I watched
Speaker 2: it when it came out. When I watched it again
Speaker 2: though in again with my Edwards perspectives in my in
Speaker 2: my brain, hole. You know, I was like, holy shit,
Speaker 2: Danny DeVito strikes me so much as that he's a
Speaker 2: He's an ardent con man. He passes himself off as
Speaker 2: a you know, importer, exporter or sports agent. He's got
Speaker 2: a number of titles, you know what I mean. He's
Speaker 2: always in and out of jail. And he grew up
Speaker 2: in an orphanage and got thrown out of there at
Speaker 2: the same age I did banging nuns. So it's a
Speaker 2: lot of similarities.
Speaker 1: And you know what, I think that that's the weird
Speaker 1: thing about the names to Benedict, like all the Catholic stuff.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, that's yeah, I'm very.
Speaker 4: Jealous Julius Caesar and get back to the Romans, right.
Speaker 1: It's got a lot. So I want you to pull
Speaker 1: up a picture if you can, because there's something interesting
Speaker 1: about the cathedral place where they chose to film a
Speaker 1: lot of this stuff. It's called Cathedral Basilia of Saint
Speaker 1: Francis of ASSISI.
Speaker 2: Did you, sneez.
Speaker 4: Have fun googling that?
Speaker 1: Angela. Maybe they're not all weirdos. I see you in
Speaker 1: the chat there, but I'm not going to say that
Speaker 1: they're not n weirdo.
Speaker 2: Well, let's be honest about the situation. If they're in Hollywood,
Speaker 2: they're probably all weirdos.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, no, for sure. And if you sign up
Speaker 1: to be a nun and you're like, I love God
Speaker 1: so much, I never want penis inside me, Sorry, you're
Speaker 1: a weirdo.
Speaker 4: Just asexual people out there.
Speaker 1: There is asexual people that become nuns and then rape kids.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't think they're a sexual obviously.
Speaker 3: Is this.
Speaker 5: You're looking for.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have been able to google that.
Speaker 2: So they to be fair, I just typed in Church
Speaker 2: Twins filming and this is what came.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they filmed. They filmed a lot of like
Speaker 1: this old world architecture stuff throughout the movie. There's another
Speaker 1: place that's kind of interesting too that nobody knows when
Speaker 1: it was built. It was a place in New Mexico,
Speaker 1: and like there's no date or photographs of it ever
Speaker 1: being built, like some weird old world stuff. But the
Speaker 1: keystone in the arch above the entrance to this cathedral.
Speaker 2: Let me get your picture here. Yeah, do you remember
Speaker 2: the name of their spot? I'll bring it up. The
Speaker 2: other locations here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll bring up the other one here in just second.
Speaker 1: But so the keystone on the arch of this this
Speaker 1: particular cathedral. It's called a tetragrammatony. It's supposed to be
Speaker 1: like this French Catholic church, but it has a tetragrammaton
Speaker 1: with Hebrew carved in it. And they said it was
Speaker 1: to thank all of the Jewish something or other that
Speaker 1: donated to the church for its construction. But I just
Speaker 1: thought it was weird because they chose this place out
Speaker 1: of all the other places. And I actually have a
Speaker 1: picture of the keystone.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I can, Yeah, please share, because
Speaker 2: I'm trying to. I'm trying to zoom in. I don't.
Speaker 2: I can't. I can't get in that close to get
Speaker 2: a good look.
Speaker 1: This is the keystone. What does that look like?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty wild.
Speaker 1: You see that? A NAUGHTI type ship.
Speaker 2: Do you have a link or do you know what?
Speaker 2: I can just type in and bring that up on
Speaker 2: the screen.
Speaker 1: You think maybe just copy and paste the name of
Speaker 1: the church and then put tetragrammaton or keystone and see
Speaker 1: if it'll pull up a picture of it. It's literally
Speaker 1: some Illuminati weird temple fucking triangles with some Hebrew stuff.
Speaker 1: It's supposed to be a French Catholic church and they
Speaker 1: got this Hebrew thing French Catholic.
Speaker 2: Well it's gonna have to be Spanish, right, because the
Speaker 2: Spanish would have found it eventually.
Speaker 1: Saying why wasn't it Spanish? If that's who it's called,
Speaker 1: Saint Francis of a Cisi and they got this Hebrew
Speaker 1: stuff on it in a triangle.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you picked up on this, man. This
Speaker 2: is an interesting topic here because the settlement of this
Speaker 2: area is very It's got some interesting stories and tales
Speaker 2: behind it.
Speaker 1: Look at this. What did it say the sat What
Speaker 1: did it say? Mystery?
Speaker 2: Where are you at?
Speaker 1: Go back to where he was before?
Speaker 2: Oh? Down?
Speaker 1: No, It showed a picture of the did did you
Speaker 1: see it? It showed a picture of the church and
Speaker 1: it said something something mystery, Yeah, the.
Speaker 2: Santa fe mystery the tetragrama there we go, Yeah, there you.
Speaker 1: Go, the tetragrammaton in the triangle go down?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So the tetragrammatron is is what is this symbol?
Speaker 4: R y shitty picture? It's got a shadow over it, right.
Speaker 1: The Hebrew name of God appears over the entrance to
Speaker 1: the cathedral dedicated to Saint Francis of Assisi.
Speaker 4: That's where they.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's supposed to be linked to the orphanage where
Speaker 1: he got raped when he was thirteen.
Speaker 2: Yep. This is yep. So this is the the tetragrammatron.
Speaker 2: Is this little Hebrew inscription inside the triangle, right yeah.
Speaker 1: They call it the keystone, like fucking Da Vinci code. Shit.
Speaker 2: Well, that's gonna be the keystone because that's the keystone
Speaker 2: of the archway of this of this basilica right over
Speaker 2: the top, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought that was really sick.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's like right now place you know.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because this is like this article is kind
Speaker 2: of satan, looks like it's a mystery whts and Santa Fe?
Speaker 1: Right, Uh, that's what I have for you on that though.
Speaker 1: I just thought that was weird.
Speaker 2: That's awesome. So it looks like the story begins in
Speaker 2: eighteen sixty nine. Was Jean Baptiste Lamai or La May
Speaker 2: Santa fe s first archbishop? Very interesting? You know, why
Speaker 2: would they have the tetragrammaton because this is a deeply
Speaker 2: a culted symbol, right mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't understand the exact importance of it,
Speaker 2: but I do know it's you know, I've read I
Speaker 2: read about it a lot.
Speaker 4: Did you find this after you watched the movie the
Speaker 4: second time? Yes, so I wonder if you if there's
Speaker 4: any shots of it.
Speaker 1: Well, there's shots of it in there of the Oh no,
Speaker 1: but they're in the other place where they film stuff
Speaker 1: at It is like this adobe thing with bee hives
Speaker 1: all over it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually I thought about moving to that part
Speaker 4: of New Mexico. It is pretty cool there. There's some
Speaker 4: kind of weird energy. Oh yeah, wow.
Speaker 2: So the one thing I noticed along these lines and
Speaker 2: this tetragrammaton stuff I like with your heads that I
Speaker 2: missed that one completely. But on the door to one
Speaker 2: of the to the Nazi the Nazi experiments, they have
Speaker 2: this shape of the key of Solomon tetragrammaton.
Speaker 1: What the fuck I'm telling you. That's why I always
Speaker 1: say nothing's an accident, Like when you see stuff in
Speaker 1: these movies. I found a completely separate one in this
Speaker 1: and that's fucking crazy.
Speaker 2: Well, let me let me play a brief clip of
Speaker 2: what I'm describing. I don't know if you get a
Speaker 2: great view of it here, but it's on the This
Speaker 2: is the design and squares on the door looks just
Speaker 2: like this. Now, that wasn't the one I had one
Speaker 2: from the beginning in that same it's it's within that
Speaker 2: lab area. They have a door with that on there.
Speaker 1: Oh, in the lab area.
Speaker 2: I'll double check here. While we're talking about I believe
Speaker 2: it was the first lab scene. That was the second
Speaker 2: lab scene. But that is a lab scene where they're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: we just unlocked this door for the first time. We
Speaker 2: don't do more of these experiments. We're friendly Nazis.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all like abandoned and ship like, oh, we
Speaker 1: don't do this anymore, okay.
Speaker 2: Right right now. I'll find that scene that it is
Speaker 2: interesting because I I I'm familiar with both of these
Speaker 2: tetragrammatons symbols, but I didn't I didn't catch that one.
Speaker 2: But I do find it odd when I keep seeing
Speaker 2: that square one up in a lot of stuff. In fact,
Speaker 2: Donald Trump's penthouse there, the Trump Tower looks like a
Speaker 2: very similar symbol on the front door.
Speaker 1: That's weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't know how like how exclusive symbols
Speaker 2: like that are. I think it's kind of across the board.
Speaker 2: When you're talking about all these keys of Solomon, right
Speaker 2: everyone's about their keys. The Mormons love their keys. Masonry,
Speaker 2: everybody loves their keys. Everybody loves you Solomon's temple, everyone
Speaker 2: loves that shit.
Speaker 1: So uh huh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So but it is, it's definitely not it's definitely
Speaker 2: not unintentional. Right, these things are being.
Speaker 1: Right, That's that's what I'm saying you, Like, you know,
Speaker 1: somebody could listen to this and be like, oh, you're
Speaker 1: totally stretching. But then there's just stuff that doesn't make sense,
Speaker 1: like the Yak Yak song. To me again, it wasn't
Speaker 1: a funny part of the movie. Then you look and
Speaker 1: see like what year it came out with all the
Speaker 1: other stuff and the Warner Professor Warner and the twins
Speaker 1: telepathy and like all this stuff, and it's like, well,
Speaker 1: this obviously is in a fucking accident. Sorry, it's not.
Speaker 2: Right, and it's definitely not. But like, you know, in
Speaker 2: the same regard, like why would you be doing these
Speaker 2: things to insert these things like tetragrammatons in this old
Speaker 2: Spanish church and tetragrammatons on these door in the King
Speaker 2: of Solomon, tetragrammatons stumble on a door right right right.
Speaker 4: Like.
Speaker 1: Definitely on purpose, did you have anything from your notespaper.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm talking over it.
Speaker 4: Not about that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: What do you got there? Not not Bill Colby.
Speaker 4: Oh, you know, we've pretty much talked about a lot
Speaker 4: of the stuff I wrote down. I think that mainly
Speaker 4: the the Nazi experimentation stuff and just the blatant, almost
Speaker 4: like product placement of these huge operations in a nineteen
Speaker 4: eighty eight movie is what I thought was weird. And yeah, that,
Speaker 4: like she mentioned the telepathy thing, and with everything going
Speaker 4: on right now after Joe Rogan made the telepathy tapes famous,
Speaker 4: the conspiracy podcasters are just kind of swarming around that
Speaker 4: like piranhas right now they are and like the future
Speaker 4: of humanity maybe shifted toward more autistic.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, is this is this real?
Speaker 2: That sounds Nazi? That's what you're describing sounds very hopp.
Speaker 4: I mean, so I'm just like spitballing a lot of
Speaker 4: the concepts that they put in this movie.
Speaker 2: I think Gavin News's father would agree with you.
Speaker 4: They use the same loose.
Speaker 2: Bullshit.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: So again, I think these Nazi things are a far
Speaker 2: more bigger thing than we understand, even in conspiracy cultures.
Speaker 2: If we don't understand that, that's all too. Von Bullshit
Speaker 2: is the father of Gavin Ussom because in that context,
Speaker 2: you it makes sense with Gavin Neussm's you know, activities
Speaker 2: and actions are in life. Of course he's going to
Speaker 2: do these things. He's a Nazi, he is.
Speaker 4: I mean, Gavin Newsom is like if you could put
Speaker 4: that guy just his looks and his mannerisms, you could
Speaker 4: put him in the villain role. You could put him
Speaker 4: in the hero role. But he is fucking arian looking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's kind of like the Nazis Nazi, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like, he's the Nazi you want to
Speaker 2: be if you're not.
Speaker 4: You get to go to the French laundry during a pandemic.
Speaker 4: Who the fuck wouldn't want to be that guy?
Speaker 2: Right, spend seventeen hundred dollars on a piece of baguette
Speaker 2: or something like that. Right, So that's supposed to be
Speaker 2: his father, and a really irishman named Willie Newsom, his sister,
Speaker 2: his sister is. Let me see what I always get
Speaker 2: this wrong, is he's related to Nancy Pelosi. His sister.
Speaker 2: His sister's married to I don't know. There's these people
Speaker 2: all bang each other. Who the fuck cares?
Speaker 4: Well, he's also with Donald Trump Junior.
Speaker 2: That's correct, sir, through that weird thing that that they
Speaker 2: called itself Kimberly Gilfoyle. But yeah, the Pelosis and the
Speaker 2: Newsom's are all linked to go through marriage. That's Gavin
Speaker 2: supposed to be Nancy's nephew. Maybe Paul Pelosi's married to
Speaker 2: Willie Newsom's sister. I think that's it. There we go anyhow. Nonetheless, Uh,
Speaker 2: that doesn't make sense either. Who the fuck cares? These
Speaker 2: people are weird? Yeah, they're they're related. They'll work for
Speaker 2: the Gettys and Auto von bullshit did too. So you
Speaker 2: tell me who Gavin Newsom's father is. You know, when
Speaker 2: you're asking who's your daddy? What does he do? I
Speaker 2: think we know what will he would? Uh, Gavin Newsom's
Speaker 2: daddy was up to and what did he did? Who
Speaker 2: is this? He was a prominent SS officer within the
Speaker 2: Galen Intelligence Network and a corporate dude out of California
Speaker 2: in the Getty Enterprises, which Willie Knewson was the attorney
Speaker 2: there in the Getty Enterprises and that was his mentor
Speaker 2: in business allegedly. Fuck yeah, so they definitely knew each other.
Speaker 4: I mean, very similar to the Castro Pierre situation.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So back when we're getting all these topics of
Speaker 2: how you know all these Nazi themes in the nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty eight film, the DOJ had only opened up their
Speaker 2: official investigation official ten years prior. Otto von Bullshit got
Speaker 2: outed as a Naziss officer in nineteen eighty, and he decided,
Speaker 2: despite being a Naziss officer.
Speaker 4: Raging weather and.
Speaker 7: The nether regions of JJ's studio, am I back, Yes,
Speaker 7: you're back for now?
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know really cut out.
Speaker 3: But I.
Speaker 4: No tornado ripping through there?
Speaker 2: Oh JJ, damn it. Apparently I can't talk about Nazis tonight.
Speaker 4: You havn't a tornado.
Speaker 2: Perfect weather. We've been hit by the apocalypse in recent days,
Speaker 2: but right now it's it's good to go.
Speaker 4: It is the Nazi talk.
Speaker 1: What was he saying right before as he was talking.
Speaker 2: About God, I'm afraid I'm afraid to say it again.
Speaker 2: I'm afraid to say it.
Speaker 4: Let's test.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we gotta test it now.
Speaker 2: Despite autivon Bullshit being my shoelace got stuck. My apologies.
Speaker 2: Where was I at? Oh? Yeah, Von bullshit, autivon bullshit.
Speaker 2: Despite being you know, again all these Nazi stuff just
Speaker 2: now in an eighty eight film. Again in nineteen seventy
Speaker 2: it was the first official, you know, investigation of these
Speaker 2: matters Nazis in America. In nineteen eighty he gets outed.
Speaker 2: He's like, oh shit, despite being this super spook dude
Speaker 2: from the CIA and Nazi stuff and the Galen Network,
Speaker 2: and despite being the Getty's business dude in charge of
Speaker 2: all their enterprises, He's like, I'm gonna turn Mormon to
Speaker 2: try to get to avoid being deported.
Speaker 4: That's a good fucking move.
Speaker 2: It tells you he's in charge out there in California.
Speaker 2: Just buy all these Nazis and stuff. You know. Well,
Speaker 2: to be fair, the Mormons are Nazis. You know they
Speaker 2: didn't They didn't let folks who weren't white get the
Speaker 2: priesthood until nineteen seventy eight.
Speaker 1: So right, that is correct.
Speaker 4: And all you Blacki'S out there, the Marka can yes,
Speaker 4: they I have fucking seen black missionaries and I'm just
Speaker 4: going right. This wasn't even like a lifetime ago that
Speaker 4: you guys are not allowed it.
Speaker 1: They needed to be more white and delightsome.
Speaker 2: He had a verse. Yeah, you know right, we had
Speaker 2: we had a black family, and we had one black
Speaker 2: family my ward. We had one Asian family in whatether
Speaker 2: Japanese in one Hawaiian family. Now they seem to be
Speaker 2: okay for the most part in the eighties, but that
Speaker 2: black family, I don't know, dude. The father of that
Speaker 2: family stood in the back. Dude. It creep me out.
Speaker 2: I even said to him one time when I was,
Speaker 2: you know, pate or nine, and I was like, hey, man,
Speaker 2: you know they got seats up front, you know. He
Speaker 2: just kind of looked at me, weird stuck freak out, dude.
Speaker 2: He's making me nervous stand up in the back of
Speaker 2: I always doing back there, Just you know, why can't
Speaker 2: he sit down? He's I understand he obviously joined the
Speaker 2: church at the time when that wasn't accepted, and that's
Speaker 2: obviously the joke I'm making about it, But that was
Speaker 2: the thing and there.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, he should have parks that shit.
Speaker 2: Or that's what I'm saying, dude. Don't realize that shit
Speaker 2: was going on until the late seventies.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I just I can't even believe that
Speaker 4: you would get any recruits African American recruits with that
Speaker 4: kind of history.
Speaker 1: Hell, no, I can't believe it either.
Speaker 2: Well, you know again they they well again it's a
Speaker 2: little it's just weird the way they treated things. Again,
Speaker 2: the Hawaiian family, it's very well accepted into the ward.
Speaker 2: I was in in fact that the Mormons invaded Hawaii
Speaker 2: I think in eighteen seventy one. So they were cool
Speaker 2: with the Hawaians, just you know, they had certain ethnic
Speaker 2: groups they had problems with, apparently, I don't know. In fact,
Speaker 2: one of those Winans I grew up with is on
Speaker 2: you know, they also love reality TV and multi marketing schemes.
Speaker 2: These are the things that the Mormons thriving. And one
Speaker 2: of those Hawaiians is on one of those Mormon you know,
Speaker 2: we got seventy two kids shows, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: one of those shows, you know, I mean it's all
Speaker 2: Mormon shit.
Speaker 1: Sister Wives, that's fucking.
Speaker 2: One of them. Something like that.
Speaker 4: Mormon reality TV industry is getting fucking out of.
Speaker 2: Control, That's what I'm saying. They're all they love that
Speaker 2: more than multi level marketing, and they love multi level
Speaker 2: marketing schemes.
Speaker 1: Then you know what's funny about that, it's.
Speaker 4: Baked in Did you ever watch Big Love Yah Good Show?
Speaker 1: They one of the wives of the guy gets involved
Speaker 1: with multi level marketing, you remember, and the guy gets
Speaker 1: red and I.
Speaker 2: Love it, dude, they love it? Is that now? Is
Speaker 2: that Bill Paxton? Is that Bill Pullman's Bill call Back?
Speaker 4: The worst alien movie?
Speaker 2: I got a I got a real Paxton Pullman conundrum.
Speaker 2: Always get too confused.
Speaker 1: I love Bill Paxton.
Speaker 2: And they don't look anything alike, but they do play
Speaker 2: similar enough roles where I do get them confused.
Speaker 4: Like what's his name from my best friend's wedding? Uh,
Speaker 4: he's got a similar name, Dermot, mulroney and Dermott.
Speaker 2: And I've heard that before.
Speaker 4: Celtic they're very generic, like Irish American act.
Speaker 6: I don't disagree Nazis to watch, though, Yeah, I tell
Speaker 6: you to watch Righteous to Emstones, but you're gonna get
Speaker 6: dick in the face.
Speaker 4: One episode in.
Speaker 1: Doesn't Dude, never stopped with Righteous McBride.
Speaker 4: Has some kind of dick fetish.
Speaker 1: Well, there's been no dick so far, and vice principles.
Speaker 2: So we see these scientologists and these kind of Nazi folks.
Speaker 2: They're pretty prominent in Hollywood obviously in California generator, like
Speaker 2: you know Autovon Bullshit's son Gavin. But you know, it
Speaker 2: makes you wonder because you know, Schwarzenegger kind of comes
Speaker 2: into the America's links up with the Kennedys. But he
Speaker 2: ain't the only Schwarzenegger in town. Do you don't know
Speaker 2: if y'all knew that we're speaking about all these power
Speaker 2: and the machinations of things behind the scenes. Well, his
Speaker 2: nephew also well not also named Arnold. His nephew's name
Speaker 2: Patrick Patrick Schwarzenegger is a is a partner at this
Speaker 2: major talent agency in Hollywood. Really, and before he did that,
Speaker 2: his name is Patrick Patrick like his son. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: this is his brother's son. This is his This is
Speaker 2: Arnold's nephew.
Speaker 4: They fought over the name and they both won.
Speaker 2: So this fell up before he was a power broker
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty at that agency, you when it combined
Speaker 2: with another agency. He was the assistant to Tommy Mottola. Really,
Speaker 2: are you all familiar with that name?
Speaker 4: I've heard it many times.
Speaker 2: Oh, this is the Saundy music guy that you know.
Speaker 2: I think Michael Jackson blamed for that whole fire incident
Speaker 2: or whatever. You know he was always at war with
Speaker 2: time Mattola. This is the same guy that Mariah Carey's
Speaker 2: got all those complaints about. You know, this is the
Speaker 2: Sony music kind of dark overlord fella.
Speaker 1: Okay, wow, fine.
Speaker 2: From nineteen ninety four to like two thousand and four,
Speaker 2: Arnold or Patrick Schwarzenegger was a sidekick there and now
Speaker 2: he's a superagent.
Speaker 1: The fact that I always say, though, just putting us
Speaker 1: out here, I always say, I don't know why people
Speaker 1: get so upset about political stuff because all just actors,
Speaker 1: and it's all stage, and it's all theater. And the
Speaker 1: fact that schwartz Shitter became the governor of anything should
Speaker 1: tell people that this is all age. This is all theater.
Speaker 4: But he was calling out the economic girly men.
Speaker 1: I don't care what he was calling out.
Speaker 2: It's completely well if you think about it, if you
Speaker 2: think about all these weird ubernatorial matters of revolve around
Speaker 2: a lot of these things we're talking about with the
Speaker 2: Nazi matters in those damn serial killers like Ted Bondy's
Speaker 2: dad brought home Mmmm, because we got we got Ronald Reagan.
Speaker 2: He thrives is making is being elected governor. You know,
Speaker 2: under these pretenses of all this murder happening in California.
Speaker 2: We need someone in there to put in charge, to
Speaker 2: take care of put you know, lay down the law, right.
Speaker 4: But really there's the movies. He fucking beat the predator?
Speaker 2: How could he all long talking about Ronnie did Ronald
Speaker 2: Reagan in the old Western the old westerns, right, So
Speaker 2: we see him pop in there, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: And then we see him battling with by what Ed Sanders,
Speaker 2: the author of the family, you know, Charles Manson stuff
Speaker 2: would say was old Jerry Moonbean Brown, a lay member
Speaker 2: of the processed Church, would be the person that Reagan's
Speaker 2: battling forth against. Then we get we get you know,
Speaker 2: more terms later of Jerry Brown, and then we get
Speaker 2: Jerry Brown's assistant, Gray Davis. And that's who gets run
Speaker 2: out of office in the running out for election. That
Speaker 2: brings us the goo or the Gobinator.
Speaker 1: The Gubinator.
Speaker 2: So we don't get very far away from the same
Speaker 2: cult bastards, because there's a lot of problem. Not only
Speaker 2: is their process connections to the death of the Kennedy boys,
Speaker 2: Old Teddedy Kennedy had a lot of process connections and
Speaker 2: he lived.
Speaker 1: If we're picking actors to become like political figures, and
Speaker 1: we're letting fucking RFK in there with his crazy voice.
Speaker 1: Can't we have somebody cool like Michael J. Fox or
Speaker 1: something like? Why do we get stuck with all these
Speaker 1: fucking retards?
Speaker 2: What are you talking about? Man? We have a Nazi
Speaker 2: science experiment marry A. Kennedy and producing us you know,
Speaker 2: other Mexican offspring you know what I mean, Mexican world offsprings.
Speaker 1: I still I would vote for Michael J. Fox, That's
Speaker 1: all I'm saying. Who would you vote for?
Speaker 4: Fucking nobody?
Speaker 1: You would?
Speaker 4: I don't vote.
Speaker 2: I don't agree with you, sir. I don't vote. Their
Speaker 2: voting's done.
Speaker 4: I'm politically informed, and that's why I don't vote.
Speaker 2: Yeah, elections didn't matter in eighteen o, eighteen oh three,
Speaker 2: eighteen seventy six, two thousand, I'm missing one in the
Speaker 2: eighteen thirties, I think. But no, not the first time,
Speaker 2: you know, not the first time these things haven't matter.
Speaker 2: But it does make you wonder these power brokers, because
Speaker 2: again we see a scientologist in this film as well,
Speaker 2: and they're not far behind as far as power brokers Nollywood.
Speaker 1: Well, so I'm just gonna say something. I don't want
Speaker 1: to tangent too much, but I was on a podcast
Speaker 1: the other day. I won't get into all the de tells,
Speaker 1: but the guest said, because you know, scientology is a
Speaker 1: really cool religion about science, and.
Speaker 2: I was like, did you say, squeeze me bacon powder?
Speaker 4: Why are you in my mind?
Speaker 1: In my mind, I was going, where's JJ Where is.
Speaker 2: JJJ somewhere somewhere off in space. I understood these things
Speaker 2: were happening, and I just had to kill Bill Sirens
Speaker 2: learning off my brain holding ever the same time, because
Speaker 2: that's a preposterous notion even to even try to back
Speaker 2: up science.
Speaker 4: Do you guys know who Brandon K. Williams is.
Speaker 2: I don't, sir, but I would like to hear about him.
Speaker 4: Well, he goes on all of these fucking shows. He
Speaker 4: came on my show a couple of years ago. He's
Speaker 4: been on tinfoil hat all the he's trying to get
Speaker 4: un rogan. But he's basically the state national guy, not
Speaker 4: to be confused with sovereign citizen because that's an oxymoron.
Speaker 4: He calls it national Movement. And we interviewed him for
Speaker 4: like almost two hours and then he tells us he's
Speaker 4: a scientologist. Sure, and that and my co host was like, dude,
Speaker 4: we need to get you back on to talk about that,
Speaker 4: and we haven't had him back on yet.
Speaker 2: But dude, all that sovereign citizen movement comes out of
Speaker 2: the same ancient lean cargo cult.
Speaker 4: Fucking yes, but you basically have to have really badass,
Speaker 4: fucking parents who get you started the right way, because
Speaker 4: to do it from right now it's almost impossible, but
Speaker 4: it is doable. But when I found out he was
Speaker 4: a scientologist, it just kind of threw me for a
Speaker 4: loop about that would have thrown everything.
Speaker 1: For a loop.
Speaker 2: That computs, Dude, that computs because again, most of this
Speaker 2: movement came out of the Nation of Islam, folks. A
Speaker 2: lot of this sovereign says and stuff did and the
Speaker 2: the uh, shoot, what's that Christian, Christian, the Muslim, the
Speaker 2: Muslim science or whatever. I'll come up. I'll come up
Speaker 2: with a second. This is the same movement that brought us.
Speaker 2: This would spawn Wesley Snipes and his Sovereign Citizen Empire,
Speaker 2: along with ardent pedophile and sex child sex trafficker Dwight York,
Speaker 2: the man who basically invented hip hop and there and
Speaker 2: their sovereign citizen campaign on four hundred acres in Georgia
Speaker 2: to building an Egyptian themed city complete with this own
Speaker 2: unlicensed nightclub on a bunch of mounds and then apparently
Speaker 2: diddling traffic a bunch of children. That was their idea
Speaker 2: of sovereign That's what they call these sovereign citizen movements
Speaker 2: of everything. The only thing I find in common is
Speaker 2: kd Diddling. Yeah, and Aliens. Aliens and Kid Dylan seem
Speaker 2: to go together there.
Speaker 1: That looks like some ship from George Hotel House.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Morris science is you know, that's where Dwight York
Speaker 2: comes from. The Nation of Islam. Nation of Islam today
Speaker 2: is scientology. Leah Ramini signed them all up, signed up
Speaker 2: Lewis Farakahn, and he signed up the entire church. Before
Speaker 2: you know she she hopped a different spaceship out of there.
Speaker 2: But she's only she still does scientology, so she's part
Speaker 2: of the whole independent scientology process movement.
Speaker 4: She's like a false defector.
Speaker 2: Then, well, they all want to do their own thing,
Speaker 2: if you know what I mean. Yeah, she seems to
Speaker 2: want to take out David and Misscavage out of power,
Speaker 2: and that seems very interesting. If you go on her
Speaker 2: website right now, she'll tell you on her website to
Speaker 2: donate to the best Friends Animal Society. That's the process.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, that's right, that best Friends.
Speaker 4: She had that any special And then she went on
Speaker 4: Rogan when he was kind of blowing up. He's also
Speaker 4: under the spotlight right now. And whether he's a scientologist
Speaker 4: or not, I'll answer that for you.
Speaker 2: Yes, and to get ahead of that.
Speaker 4: He's doing it false. I'm a Christian.
Speaker 2: Now, Wow, this is all very this is all very
Speaker 2: process of them.
Speaker 4: This is all very Processsher called him out on that
Speaker 4: Two Bears, One Cave podcast.
Speaker 2: And I heard that, Yeah, well, Bert Kreischers wanted to
Speaker 2: be talking his career is made from scientology.
Speaker 4: How so. I think we talked about this before, but I.
Speaker 2: Forget when Scientology invaded Clearwater, Florida in nineteen circa nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy eight seventy nine, they set up a bunch of
Speaker 2: LLC's and then one day bob a bunch of property
Speaker 2: and said, ooh, surprise, were all Scientology. The attorney that
Speaker 2: helped them do that was Albert Kreiser, the second or senior.
Speaker 4: I'm my back in my back, Yeah, I thought it
Speaker 4: was us.
Speaker 2: Oh it might have been. So that was Bert Kreiser's dad,
Speaker 2: That was the real estate attorney him and his partner
Speaker 2: that they hired it to invade Clearwater, Florida.
Speaker 4: You know who played Burt Krescher's dad in the movie
Speaker 4: They Just did?
Speaker 2: Was it a Nazi science experiment? Yes?
Speaker 4: You know the answer, Luke Skywalker, motherfucker.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude. So, like my my opinion of the process
Speaker 2: is they're just the dark wing of scientology. In my
Speaker 2: opinion of Leah Reminia, she's somewhere near the top of
Speaker 2: that because she's telling folks to donate money to it
Speaker 2: well actively attacking David miss Gavitt. So her background, she's
Speaker 2: not always completely forward about this. She claimed she never
Speaker 2: got a freeloader's bill, get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 2: So she signed a billion year contract at the age
Speaker 2: of thirteen. If you want to leave that by in
Speaker 2: your contract, they're gonna hit you with a six figure,
Speaker 2: six figure free leaders bill, right and and in doing that,
Speaker 2: you know she She's made various statements in regards to
Speaker 2: these matters, but she's never they're all conflicting, and she
Speaker 2: she was Shelley, miss Gavitch's assistant. So you know, both
Speaker 2: Elron Hubbards started this thing called the Messenger Service, where
Speaker 2: you know, him and his wife and other executives would
Speaker 2: have a bunch of teenagers running around. You know, Elron
Speaker 2: had one to hold his astra and ither we to
Speaker 2: hold a cigarette and then when to hold his lighter,
Speaker 2: this kind of thing, and then they would go run
Speaker 2: messages for him and whatnot. Well, Shelle, that's what that's what.
Speaker 2: That's what Leah did for Shelley miss Gavage when she
Speaker 2: signed up been in year contract at the age of thirteen.
Speaker 1: Somebody put in the comments that Mark Wahlberg is repping
Speaker 1: for Best Friends Animal Society, And I find that highly
Speaker 1: interesting because even when David McGowan was researching for Program
Speaker 1: to Kill and he did that chapter on like how
Speaker 1: the process and like the trickle down trickle down, and
Speaker 1: then he did scientology trickle down trickle down, he mentioned
Speaker 1: best Friends right in a Program to Kill right, So
Speaker 1: it's like all these assholes are wrapped up in all
Speaker 1: this shit.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure he was in communications with Maury Terry.
Speaker 2: I've seen some things to cause me to believe that.
Speaker 2: And if so he had all the process information, then
Speaker 2: if you had, you know, communicate with Terry.
Speaker 4: I mean, didn't he write that book because of the
Speaker 4: Ultimate eval program to kill he can just kept the
Speaker 4: research going?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's certainly heavily influenced by it.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, it seemed like that was the case.
Speaker 1: You know, I still haven't read that yet.
Speaker 4: You should because the Netflix series is a really fast second.
Speaker 1: What Netflix series?
Speaker 4: The one about Sona Sanna? Oh yeah, I was gonna
Speaker 4: mention that twizzle Stick, said bert Is van Wilder. Yeah,
Speaker 4: didn't he even sue National Lampoon or whoever that produced
Speaker 4: that movie?
Speaker 2: Uh well, I don't know if he did that. He
Speaker 2: definitely is.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 2: Rolling Stone magazine came to Florida State University, I think
Speaker 2: in ninety six, and they were like, because they got
Speaker 2: voted to the number one party school in America, and
Speaker 2: they're like, he was the number one party in party
Speaker 2: animal on campus. And everyone said, Bert Chrescher, he was
Speaker 2: just on a seventh year of school, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean? And and uh so they followed him around
Speaker 2: for a week and they made him end up making
Speaker 2: him the cover of the Rolling Stone article. Oliver Stone
Speaker 2: would then license the options to in which to or
Speaker 2: hold on Wait. Will Smith would pay him an a
Speaker 2: hundred grand as a discovery deal kind of deal, the
Speaker 2: development deal, and then they developed that script, which oliver
Speaker 2: Stone purchased and then it got later licensed into Van Wilder.
Speaker 2: Right right, Look Will Smith, dude, come on, Will Smith's signed.
Speaker 2: He was a scientologist for sure at that time. I
Speaker 2: would argue still today, so we see scientist atalie now
Speaker 2: you really can't.
Speaker 4: It's like saying that in the CIA, and I'm thirty.
Speaker 2: Eighth I retired. Yeah. And Chrysler famously tells a story
Speaker 2: where he's like telling his dad about Will Smith. He's like, oh, buddy,
Speaker 2: that guy wants to bang you. But like, let's be honest, dude,
Speaker 2: Like all of these Chrisiers were hooked to scientology. Birt's
Speaker 2: sisters or executives like Fox and Disney. Dude, you don't
Speaker 2: think that's a scientology related thing.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. What's that one guy that's always that was
Speaker 1: always hanging out with Will Smith Jones jaz F No.
Speaker 4: I thought Quincy Quincy, Yeah, Quincy Quincy Jones, Quincy Jones.
Speaker 2: Oh, he's he's like the black David Geffen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think his daughter is a daughter.
Speaker 4: Rashida. Come on, man, features you've seen her in movies.
Speaker 2: She started off in the office, right.
Speaker 4: And she was in the office. Then she did parks
Speaker 4: and rec that was was That was the office first,
Speaker 4: and that was it. No, she did the office and
Speaker 4: then did.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I thought, yeah, it doesn't and it doesn't
Speaker 2: bed well for her because I called the office the
Speaker 2: real trainees of scrant p A.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's in I love you man, Yeah, she loves
Speaker 4: a lot of No, he's saying it.
Speaker 2: I I think most of not all, the female casts
Speaker 2: of the Officer Dues.
Speaker 4: Yes, oh, so you're saying it's the sun. I thought
Speaker 4: we were going on another this is not your daddy game.
Speaker 2: No, well, I mean I don't know about that, but
Speaker 2: you know, I just think when we're starting to talking
Speaker 2: about these Nazis experiments and stuff, and then we see
Speaker 2: the you know, the junior stuff with the transgender stuff,
Speaker 2: you know, all these Nazi transgender stuff with the processed stuff, right, Like,
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a stretch. There is a lot
Speaker 2: of folks and that we call women or for that
Speaker 2: matter of men. I guess for that for the same
Speaker 2: where they've inverted the genders on these sons of bitches
Speaker 2: there in Hollywood.
Speaker 4: Well, we'll both both Will Smith's kids. There's an argument.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude.
Speaker 4: Naming gun sept.
Speaker 2: His son is the major like model for a fucking
Speaker 2: women's fashion design. Dude, come on to get out town.
Speaker 4: And the daughter is just a badass bitch.
Speaker 1: She's like wide shoulders.
Speaker 4: She's the one I like, like, she fucking makes good
Speaker 4: music and she would probably kick the fun out of there.
Speaker 2: And Charlie's there on dude, that's a dude.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that one kisses me off. Where she's got all
Speaker 4: these kids that she got from Africas and she's.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, dude. So not only is it transgendered,
Speaker 2: it brings into young African boys and Seconngratulations, you're an
Speaker 2: American now and you're a girl, right, but at least
Speaker 2: she got food. Fucker, here's a blonde wig, you're a
Speaker 2: Disney princess.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that one, that one gets me. And a Megan
Speaker 4: Fox is like three for three, dude.
Speaker 2: Have you seen the movie totally.
Speaker 1: Toally? I don't think so.
Speaker 2: This is when I got real heavy and my Charlie's
Speaker 2: there on as a dude.
Speaker 1: Charlie Stern's kids are training.
Speaker 4: She's adopted some kids from.
Speaker 2: She's only got two kids. Yeah, their little African boy
Speaker 2: she turned into girls. Congratulations, you're Disney princess.
Speaker 4: Oh my god. So in this film, this is Ivan
Speaker 4: Rightmand's son. Yeah, Jason, he did the most all this
Speaker 4: stuff we reviewing friends, his dad Junior Ghostbusters now that.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of it, the new Ghostbusters with Paulaud, the
Speaker 1: newest one, the Frozen Empire. They sneak a lot of
Speaker 1: weird oh if autism is the future stuff, and.
Speaker 4: Like if they make a third Ghostbusters spin off, because
Speaker 4: they've done too. Now will be that transition from the
Speaker 4: little girl e Gun's niece or granddaughter or whatever, He'll
Speaker 4: be going boy like they're really.
Speaker 2: Oh, dude, all day, dude, they've been working towards that
Speaker 2: all day.
Speaker 4: She's kind of a tomboy in the first movie. Now
Speaker 4: she's a lesbian.
Speaker 1: And if there's a third, well they're saying she's autistic
Speaker 1: and a lesbian.
Speaker 4: Well, all the fucking trans people that are autistic.
Speaker 2: You can't be one without the other jewel. You gotta
Speaker 2: get both.
Speaker 1: The whole thing about autism being the future. I know
Speaker 1: that that ship's on purpose, and I disagree because again,
Speaker 1: I was on a podcast recently and they were hinting
Speaker 1: at they think that autism is the future, and I
Speaker 1: just completely disagree.
Speaker 4: That's what the transhumanists want us today.
Speaker 1: But the thing is the whole autistic thing being the future.
Speaker 1: That wasn't a thing until the like nineties, vaccines were
Speaker 1: rolled out and everybody became fucking autistic. Now it's the future.
Speaker 2: Well, Michael Jackson said, children in the future.
Speaker 1: Yeah, autistic children, autistic children.
Speaker 2: That was until that. The Schwarzeninger guy got ahold of
Speaker 2: Michael Jackson because he used to work for time with Tola.
Speaker 4: And I'm not like shitting on autism. I think it's
Speaker 4: a real thing. But there's this whole other level now
Speaker 4: where they're pushing for it to be. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 4: you know, you go back to Star Trek, the OG
Speaker 4: series and you look at the Vulcans.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's essentially what they want.
Speaker 2: Well, it's a it's a brave new world they're trying.
Speaker 2: They're trying to make a brave new world whereewment can
Speaker 2: proc create, right, So they want to control all elements
Speaker 2: of society and including procreation. And that's why we get
Speaker 2: the invert agender of these cult bastards. And that's why
Speaker 2: we see this fat dude who gained a beer belly
Speaker 2: here playing a pregnant woman. So, by its own admittance,
Speaker 2: she gained eighty pound beer belly for this role. Why
Speaker 2: the funk would a woman do that?
Speaker 4: What movie is this?
Speaker 2: This is that totally film?
Speaker 4: Okay, because I saw her in the.
Speaker 2: Beer belly, dude, that's that's a why would you do that?
Speaker 4: Have you seen Monster?
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, I have seen that where she plays Yeah, and.
Speaker 4: Then she turns around and plays Megan Kelly. Yeah, dude,
Speaker 4: pulls both of them off perfectly.
Speaker 2: Well, let's be honest. Charlie is a very diverse factor.
Speaker 4: You could say that Charlie's was a huge question.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: When I was in high school, Naked the Devil, she
Speaker 4: was sold.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was sold to all the youngsters, the young
Speaker 2: man of America in the nineties and Reindeer Games is
Speaker 2: you know, they were introduced to Charlie as a topless
Speaker 2: young female. And I'll tell you what. Her breast size
Speaker 2: mystery is worse than Britney spears.
Speaker 4: Ben Affleck too, and we all know about his connections.
Speaker 2: Ben Affleck has breasts.
Speaker 4: No just to Cia connections, I mean her big games.
Speaker 2: I was about to say, I mean, you know, I'm
Speaker 2: not you know, I could see ben Afflet being a land.
Speaker 4: There was that movie called Two Days in the Valley.
Speaker 4: I love that she's like topless on the poster.
Speaker 2: Wait a second, Yeah, they showed her titties in that
Speaker 2: and Reindeer Games, don't they.
Speaker 1: But here's the deal, Bud, because of the weird twins thing.
Speaker 2: Do you remember the film Barbar.
Speaker 4: Pam.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was not her though, that was super imposed.
Speaker 2: She was not the one post naked and that despite
Speaker 2: allegedly being you know, doing the playboy stuff right on.
Speaker 4: The poster or in the movie at all.
Speaker 2: In the film, that was not her naked. They super
Speaker 2: imposed a naked lady.
Speaker 4: Yeah, kind of like they did with Brooks Shields when
Speaker 4: she was like twelve.
Speaker 2: Well, no, they did that. That was that was her, dude,
Speaker 2: she was ten.
Speaker 4: She said that they she decided during that movie that
Speaker 4: she wanted a body double because she'd been in an
Speaker 4: earlier movie where they made her get naked, and she
Speaker 4: was like.
Speaker 2: That's the early one I'm talking about. I was about
Speaker 2: to say, I don't want to bring it up. I'll
Speaker 2: throw up my mouth again, But.
Speaker 4: No, Rick Shields. There's something right now on X that's
Speaker 4: circulating around showing people like a grown man interviewing her
Speaker 4: when she was like fucking fourteen, and they're like, and
Speaker 4: then her virginity became a huge thing when she was
Speaker 4: like in her early twenties, late teens, Like that whole.
Speaker 1: Thing is a playboy thing. Yeah, salty and spicy or
Speaker 1: whatever they call that.
Speaker 2: At the age of ten, that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: She was doing cocaine, probably near and around Bob Cocaine
Speaker 2: Evans at Studio fifty four at the age of hand
Speaker 2: while posing and playboy and starring in a film and
Speaker 2: starting a film, and that same year in that role
Speaker 2: that the playboy was about a ten year old prostitute
Speaker 2: funk out of here. And it's crazy.
Speaker 1: That is fucking crazy, That's.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying. So when we think about this cold
Speaker 2: of Hollywood and folks, I don't think these things are
Speaker 2: all that crazy, especially when you're talking about Nazi stuff, right, Like,
Speaker 2: I mean, it's pretty sick people, right, That's why.
Speaker 1: I said JJ for Halloween, we need to cover that
Speaker 1: movie called The Unborn.
Speaker 2: Let's look at fat Charlie's stomach for a second while
Speaker 2: I bring that up.
Speaker 1: That looks like a that looks like a prosthetic.
Speaker 2: I won't bring up an interview where you can watch
Speaker 2: her describe and I just read it where she describes
Speaker 2: she put on beer, beer belly. She hugged beer every night.
Speaker 2: She said it where he said that.
Speaker 4: Means she's playing pregnant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's playing a pregnant lady in the film. And
Speaker 2: she just said I'm gonna chuck a bunch of beer
Speaker 2: and run around with this small African child that adopted
Speaker 2: from from my you know, and across the world, and
Speaker 2: said you're a girl now. And then that's These are
Speaker 2: the decisions Charlie Thurram was making back in twenty ten
Speaker 2: or so there.
Speaker 1: So like I saved you from Africa, so you don't
Speaker 1: have to wear two sizes of two small crocs all
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 2: Just be yeah, yeah, and give me a beer, Give
Speaker 2: me a beer, bitch. That's what she said to him.
Speaker 2: Got MoMA's gotta put on wait for this role. That's
Speaker 2: what she's That's what she screamed. At him.
Speaker 1: I heard, so I was gonna have Colby watch this
Speaker 1: movie the other day, but I don't think he would
Speaker 1: be into it. But the plot is really, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: conspiratorial for a horror film, because you know, most of
Speaker 1: the time when you watch a horror film these days,
Speaker 1: they just try to like put a bunch of stupid
Speaker 1: shit in there that don't make sense, just or like,
Speaker 1: it's not actually that scary. It's got like a really
Speaker 1: good backstory to it, and it's kind of goes along
Speaker 1: the same lines as the movie we're discussing tonight.
Speaker 4: I definitely don't want to watch it now. It's fucking
Speaker 4: Michael Bay production.
Speaker 1: Oh you think you think he sucks?
Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry, I mean to interrupt. You keep going, No,
Speaker 4: you think it sucks. No, I was joking. You said
Speaker 4: I would like it.
Speaker 2: But Michael Bay is kind of like the fat Charlie
Speaker 2: of Hollywood directors.
Speaker 4: I didn't want to say it because she got so upset.
Speaker 1: But I don't pay attention to those things.
Speaker 4: Well, at least he's not the director, Is he not
Speaker 4: the director?
Speaker 1: No, it's about twins. It's about twins, and it goes
Speaker 1: into all this stuff about Joseph Mangela and stuff, and
Speaker 1: they make it integral to the storyline but also make
Speaker 1: it horrifying.
Speaker 4: So it kind of sounds like American horse story type stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's actually like if you took American horror story
Speaker 1: season Asylum and they with Murder House and I get this.
Speaker 4: Why do you think I wouldn't like it?
Speaker 1: The jump scares?
Speaker 4: No, I said. I said, if the horror movie relies
Speaker 4: on jump scares, jump scares are fine. But if that's
Speaker 4: the whole fucking like this is why this movie is scary,
Speaker 4: that's fine.
Speaker 2: There, But I mean it's a This is a very
Speaker 2: good Nazi themed film. I like, where your heads out.
Speaker 2: You'll definitely like to join you all for a future
Speaker 2: film review.
Speaker 4: This would be the darker side of Twins. Even though
Speaker 4: this is actually the.
Speaker 1: Darker side of Twins, I think for like Halloween or something, is.
Speaker 2: Because these Nazi human experiments, especially with children, was definitely
Speaker 2: Manglo's style, right.
Speaker 1: Yes, he loved twins.
Speaker 2: He loved twins, that is right, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So this is this is Danny DeVito's actual dad, jo
Speaker 2: who is his daddy? What did he do? Made a
Speaker 2: lot of twins and weird experiments like tonight's film. That's
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Like in nineteen eighty eight, I assure
Speaker 2: you that the ideas of Joseph Mangla were not very
Speaker 2: prominently known, but they were obviously well well entrenched. In
Speaker 2: tonight's film discussion. We're reviewing The Night, and I do
Speaker 2: appreciate thank you both for your time here tonight as
Speaker 2: we close this thing out bringing in for Land, and
Speaker 2: thank you folks for Interwest for joining us. I do
Speaker 2: like your ideas for some Halloween themed stuff, and I
Speaker 2: would like to put that notion on your all's calendar.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do some every month of Halloween's obviously gonna
Speaker 2: focus on some Halloween theme film theme reviews, right, but
Speaker 2: themed film, There we go, film reviews. Have you all
Speaker 2: ever heard of this one? I'd like to also put
Speaker 2: this one on your alls horizon. It's not a Nazi thing,
Speaker 2: but it's a very kind of Philip K. Dick thing.
Speaker 2: We were talking some title recall stuff well for long
Speaker 2: and yeah, well he's got some interesting German roots. We'll
Speaker 2: get into that at a later date, but I.
Speaker 4: Mean, American history X wasn't far off the mark.
Speaker 2: There you go. Start a lot of Nazi stuff from there,
Speaker 2: right right in your face, hole, right in that one
Speaker 2: face when he got curb stumped.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: See, this makes me think of Cronenberg. I guess probably
Speaker 4: because the scanners, but even the poster.
Speaker 1: I've never seen scanners.
Speaker 4: It's like the tamest Cronenberg movie there is. But it's
Speaker 4: really fucking good, is it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Davy red Pill Cartel podcast told the unneeded to
Speaker 1: walk in.
Speaker 4: Well, it's like Ultimate MK Ultra Weaponized Humans kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Well, he said, yeah, you know, JJ, I know you're
Speaker 1: familiar with Davy, but if you're gonna do horror movies
Speaker 1: or Halloween theme stuff, I hope he's available because he
Speaker 1: loves talking about that stuff. He's all the way up
Speaker 1: in it like we are.
Speaker 2: Oh for sure, I've heard of Davy, But have you
Speaker 2: heard of Ted.
Speaker 1: There's thousands of Americans out there.
Speaker 5: By the way, I've been shot with a laser beam twice.
Speaker 2: Twice. No, I I definitely would like to get Davy
Speaker 2: Wavey on for some horror stuff that seems to be
Speaker 2: his his genre. He was supposed to join us for
Speaker 2: that ghost Stories, but he lost electricity that night.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, no, I'm I'm already thinking of October and
Speaker 1: it's not even August.
Speaker 4: Well, you're gonna be nursing a one month old.
Speaker 2: So what That's what I was gonna ask her. Are
Speaker 2: you gonna be back online by then? You're gonna be
Speaker 2: taking a break?
Speaker 1: You said she's gonna be I yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: might be putting the cart before the old horse.
Speaker 4: Here. Hey, I'm a free babysitter. While you guys review
Speaker 4: Halloween movies, I can set those out.
Speaker 2: That brain Scan one is a horror film, but it's
Speaker 2: also it's super PKD in the sense of Philip K.
Speaker 2: Dick styles dystopian kind of nature of reality, and it's
Speaker 2: very interesting. So dude gets a This is the early
Speaker 2: onset of the nineties VR rage, which, if you remember,
Speaker 2: it's equally as shitty as the recent VR VR rage
Speaker 2: but less slightly less expensive, and U the uh, the
Speaker 2: idea was he got a CD ROM disc. This is
Speaker 2: at the early on set of PC gaming. And he
Speaker 2: gets this disc and he plays this very you know,
Speaker 2: intensive reality game, and he's, uh, he thinks he wakes up,
Speaker 2: but he's really just stuck in the spoiler alert from
Speaker 2: a film in nineteen ninety three, he's really just stuck
Speaker 2: in the game and it's it's it's pretty fucked up.
Speaker 2: But Franklin Gella, you know, he plays with this villain dude,
Speaker 2: and he's fucking creepy. I will watch it super good.
Speaker 2: I watched it again recently. I was actually surprised how
Speaker 2: well it plays. And speaking of all this kid diddling stuff,
Speaker 2: you know, for along got diddled pretty good and hard.
Speaker 2: They're and I mean, kind of a pun intendant there
Speaker 2: in Hollywood. If you ever recall, he was openly dating
Speaker 2: his stand in on the film Terminator when he was
Speaker 2: fifteen she was twenty eight.
Speaker 4: He had a chick stand in on the Don't Guess Dude.
Speaker 2: And he got emancipated from his folks because they were like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we're gonna chop this and half buddy, you need to
Speaker 2: twenty eight year old, and you know, she seems to
Speaker 2: have really wrecked the man's life amongst other things.
Speaker 4: Well, he spun out pretty hard after that, and you know,
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, it makes sense. You know, he's like
Speaker 4: another Cory Heim.
Speaker 2: Well you know, at least you know, I mean, I
Speaker 2: guess this and Eddie's case, you guess it was a female.
Speaker 2: But you know, Hanmes, I think it was Charlie Sheen,
Speaker 2: but you know he won't say that, among others, Feldman
Speaker 2: won't say Feldman dances around Feldman dances around that Jack.
Speaker 4: But you know why, because Feldman was covering for his
Speaker 4: friend that was doing it. Charlie Sheen might have done
Speaker 4: that on the set of Rudi, no doubt. I wouldn't
Speaker 4: fucking he's surprised at all. But there was another guy
Speaker 4: that Corey fucking Feldman was actually kind of like making
Speaker 4: it happen. It seems like they that guy's not.
Speaker 2: It sounds about right. He's not like a lot of
Speaker 2: Can we both agree on that? Can we all three
Speaker 2: agree on this? That Michael Jackson, if he did anyone
Speaker 2: he did with Corey Feldman. I don't want to, dude,
Speaker 2: he's fifty four years old. He just he just turned
Speaker 2: fifty four on July sixteenth. We celebrated here in Operation
Speaker 2: in GCD. You imagine he's fifty four, he still thinks
Speaker 2: he's Michael Jackson. I mean that boy, you got some
Speaker 2: good dick. And if you ask me, fifty four years
Speaker 2: old still run around here.
Speaker 4: You just lost my mom she was watching. Oh damn,
Speaker 4: she'll die on that hill.
Speaker 2: My apology is not not Bill Kolby's mother. Now, actually,
Speaker 2: there is a strong argument outside of this freak of
Speaker 2: nature he runs around thinking he's Michael Jackson. There's a
Speaker 2: strong arm you Marie that there's a lot of that
Speaker 2: is bullshit.
Speaker 1: Well I think that Wait, wait, what's bullshit?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I don't think Michael Jackson was capable of diddling. I
Speaker 4: think he could have been inappropriate. He definitely admitted to
Speaker 4: inappropriate activity, getting kids wine, sleeping in the same bed
Speaker 4: as kids. I don't think he fucking had a functioning dick.
Speaker 4: I think that HBO ship was That HBO documentary was bullshit.
Speaker 4: But I do think he was probably not fucking cool
Speaker 4: either with kids.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't agree with your assessment, sir. He went
Speaker 2: on Barbara Walters and joyfully described a Colkin sandwich, mccoley
Speaker 2: on one side, Kirkan on the other, and you know
Speaker 2: Jacko in the middle. You know what I mean? Who
Speaker 2: on Kirkan? The Kirkan Colkins. Oh, McCauley's brother, now right,
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, yeah, I'd like to buy a vowel
Speaker 2: please for that man's name.
Speaker 1: So you're saying you think he did diddle.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's hard to believe a man joyful. I
Speaker 2: mean again, I don't there's the evidence they present again,
Speaker 2: Here's here's my conundrum. The evidence they present against the
Speaker 2: man is obviously bullshit, right, So that is again it's
Speaker 2: not mutually exclusive. He may have vital folks. I mean,
Speaker 2: look at Feldman again, he's running around here like he
Speaker 2: you know, like that's his daddy. We know who your
Speaker 2: daddy is, Corey, and it's Michael Jackson, and we don't
Speaker 2: have to ask what he did. But you know the
Speaker 2: thing is that when you present bullshit evidence, like demonstral
Speaker 2: bullshit and not to lie about shit like you know,
Speaker 2: causes the question what's really going on there? Yeah, he
Speaker 2: still could be doing those things. I'm not saying that,
Speaker 2: but because again it's hard to defend a man who
Speaker 2: joyfully describes having himself a nice little colcon sandwich in
Speaker 2: his bed, you know, and you know mcoley on the
Speaker 2: other just you know, packing him in there.
Speaker 1: He gets in the bed with him. Tell me right now,
Speaker 1: you if your kid came home and was like Michael
Speaker 1: was in the bed with me. He gave me bline
Speaker 1: and he.
Speaker 4: Gave back, gave me the Jesus juice is what Michael
Speaker 4: called it. Well, I think that Michael Jackson was likely
Speaker 4: chemically castrated by his father to keep me his voice.
Speaker 4: That's a theory I heard a while ago, and it
Speaker 4: seems plausible. You look at his frame, you listen to
Speaker 4: his voice. So whether he was able to like penetrate
Speaker 4: these children, I definitely think he was being very fucking
Speaker 4: inappropriate And I would have fucking killed him.
Speaker 1: What if he just was like fondalizing them. Still, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, like, you wouldn't You don't think he even
Speaker 1: fondalized them.
Speaker 4: I mean, it seems likely that he was very inappropriate,
Speaker 4: so I wouldn't be surprised.
Speaker 1: No, he would say, I'm gonna take you in a
Speaker 1: hot air balloon and we're gonna go over never Land.
Speaker 4: And well en hopy, you get up there. Something that's
Speaker 4: overlooked about the whole Michael Jackson saga is his sexual
Speaker 4: abuse as a child, because it's like, no, he never
Speaker 4: had a childhood. He was just he toured so much,
Speaker 4: but he did have there was shit going on. His
Speaker 4: dad was a piece of shit, and he was tossed
Speaker 4: into the industry much like McCoy Culkin, who he really
Speaker 4: bonded with. So I'm thinking, like it's really bonded them
Speaker 4: all right, Well it's multi layered, and I'm like there
Speaker 4: was a double ayir of Colkin.
Speaker 1: To anybody who says that Michael wasn't sexually assaulted as
Speaker 1: a child, did this ignorant?
Speaker 4: They ignorant?
Speaker 2: Well, now we keep moving back into these same very
Speaker 2: relevant subjects to the Night's discussion, and here as we
Speaker 2: close it out here, I'll off for you all the
Speaker 2: moment and some time to make some cloth closing remarks
Speaker 2: and any you know, plugs necessary. But I did as
Speaker 2: we're talking about old Jacko here, I forgot that Michael
Speaker 2: Jackson and his then wife Lisa Marie Presley were also
Speaker 2: in attendance at the wedding nuptials of John Travolta, in
Speaker 2: co star of Night's film Kelly Preston. Oh yeah, Lisa
Speaker 2: Maria lifelong scientilli just courtesy of her mother Priscilla.
Speaker 1: Right, And there's a whole other thing with that too,
Speaker 1: I mean Priscilla.
Speaker 2: No, it cannects directly, do it. So. McCaulay cochlan had
Speaker 2: had a band. It was a you know, velvet underground
Speaker 2: based band which Velvet Underground lou read process. So macaulay
Speaker 2: Culkin's got a Velvet Underground theme band, Pizza Underground, that
Speaker 2: doughnut shop out by Yell in Portland is with their
Speaker 2: main hub. He's got sponsorship.
Speaker 4: They're Brock Pierce and that that cohort.
Speaker 2: But also they're tied into James Lphantis exactly.
Speaker 4: And McCaulay culkin also has a podcast called Bunny Ears.
Speaker 4: So I mean the symbology that he uses, you definitely know.
Speaker 4: I mean, he went on Joe Rogan's podcast and was
Speaker 4: willing to fucking talk all this ship about his dad
Speaker 4: when they were on the road together, and I got
Speaker 4: some vibes like he there was some stuff going on
Speaker 4: that he didn't talk about. He hates he talks about it.
Speaker 2: He got emancipated from his father, right, So it's the
Speaker 2: same kind of deal, right is that?
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not going to go out there and
Speaker 4: see anything that allegations that I haven't heard, but it
Speaker 4: just sounds like there's.
Speaker 2: What kind of you're a man, you got you got children, sir?
Speaker 2: I'm a man. I got what I got one son,
Speaker 2: But what what father allows their children to go be
Speaker 2: a Culkin sandwich around Michael Jackson.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It doesn't add up on.
Speaker 2: Each side, smash them in there two layers of colcon
Speaker 2: So in regards to all these matters, though, I think
Speaker 2: it is interesting because you know, you know, well, with
Speaker 2: the connections of Pizzagate to donut Gate. We'll offer you this.
Speaker 2: The fellow that makes the child size coffins that the
Speaker 2: Voodoo Donuts uses his donut boxes was seen on James
Speaker 2: Alphonsis' Instagram with James Eliphontis in that coffin workshop with
Speaker 2: dude making some of you know, his dud's making send
Speaker 2: them coffin. So there's a direct connection between Pizzagate and
Speaker 2: what is known as donut besides the symbols, right, besides,
Speaker 2: because the symbol of Voodoo Downuts comes from that same
Speaker 2: FBI report that was released by Julian NOSANNGS in two
Speaker 2: thousand and nine, and all the left one of the
Speaker 2: disc there's a two thousand and nine Slate articles celebrating
Speaker 2: Julian Nosans releasing that report until you coninct John Podesta
Speaker 2: gang to it and they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, who
Speaker 2: is this Nazi Julian Nosane releasing this obviously false report. Bitch,
Speaker 2: it says FBI law enforcement only at the top. You
Speaker 2: know what I mean, y'all were celebrating a few years ago,
Speaker 2: you know, but that is it's the symbol that brought
Speaker 2: to go to the two things, right, the donut shopping,
Speaker 2: the pizza shop. But there's also more connections the people
Speaker 2: in the coffin manufacturer, et cetera. Creepy, creepy Nazi shit.
Speaker 2: If you asked me, all the shit's Nazi shit. The
Speaker 2: Nazis dead in America in nineteen forty seven, with all
Speaker 2: these bastards, these jacks programs and all the shit, and
Speaker 2: the National Security Actor of nineteen forty seven is what
Speaker 2: they held instilled into our structural within our government, in
Speaker 2: the in the organizations that formed, and since then we've
Speaker 2: all dealt with the matters of national security and free
Speaker 2: speech cannot exist in America under the National Security Act
Speaker 2: of nineteen forty seven, were any other national security acts.
Speaker 2: It's a Nazi Act.
Speaker 1: Everything is Nazi fuck.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And speaking of Nazis, speaking of Nazis, I got
Speaker 2: I got a real I got I got one statement
Speaker 2: here before I turn over to y'all here to close
Speaker 2: it out. Got a Nazi Satanist told himight be Michael
Speaker 2: a Quina and gang and my six degrees of Michael
Speaker 2: Akino tomorrow night. Try to understand the environment in which
Speaker 2: this fellow operated in and starting these massive psychological operations
Speaker 2: in the Phoenix program come home right, because Anton Levy
Speaker 2: and everyone wants to claim he's a carnival barker, get
Speaker 2: the fuck out of here. His mentor was an international
Speaker 2: fucking arms trafficker who was honestly a real, an actual
Speaker 2: dark magician, if you will, as opposed to you know,
Speaker 2: Crowley would be like the pop culture version of this guy.
Speaker 2: This guy's real, fucking They're all behind the early onset
Speaker 2: of the Church of Satan, and everyone's like, no, no,
Speaker 2: he's just you know's a strip club. Yeah, one of
Speaker 2: the Manson girls has happened to be there. But you know,
Speaker 2: he's a carnival barker. I mean, get the fuck out
Speaker 2: of here.
Speaker 1: Why are they saying he's a carnival barker?
Speaker 2: That's the going rate with him though, that's always the
Speaker 2: propaganda line, much like the propaganda line in that Son
Speaker 2: of Same documentary, The Process Church just sparing it in
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy four. Get the fuck out of here, dude.
Speaker 2: You only can believe that if you don't believe your
Speaker 2: own senses, and that is the point of the uh
Speaker 2: you know, the sy op, the my si op to
Speaker 2: mind more of Michael Aquino and gang in this satanic
Speaker 2: panic nonsense that includes satanic murders and satanic ritual abuse
Speaker 2: and telling everyone don't trust your senses. You know these
Speaker 2: these are not the satanis you're looking for.
Speaker 4: I am wearing Thompson shirt today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he was. He was right up there in
Speaker 2: the mix with all these characters, wasn't he.
Speaker 4: I know, I can't help to think about it because
Speaker 4: he's somebody that I idolized for a while.
Speaker 2: Me too, you know, I'm not I'm not any different.
Speaker 2: I did enjoy the man's writings, and.
Speaker 4: You liked the Grateful Dead, so you're worse than me, dude.
Speaker 2: I was the entire wall of my bedroom from the
Speaker 2: age of like fourteen to seventeen when I lived there.
Speaker 2: In that room growing up as a teenager, was a
Speaker 2: huge Grateful Dead poster. I mean, like literally the whole
Speaker 2: like you know, eight by eight kind of deal, right,
Speaker 2: and uh, you know it's uh. I was that big
Speaker 2: of a dead head.
Speaker 4: You know, I never got I never got the poll.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I probably was drugs early enough.
Speaker 2: There you go, that's important. You got to smoke some
Speaker 2: pot I had. I had a cousin who was a
Speaker 2: big dead head. She got me into my aunt follow
Speaker 2: the dead out West and never never came back. So
Speaker 2: you know she's still with us. I'm just saying she
Speaker 2: never came back from the out West.
Speaker 4: I thought you meant she never came back from a
Speaker 4: dead dad. Yeah, just following well, I was.
Speaker 2: I saw after I said that, I realized this was
Speaker 2: sound alike, so I had to correct it.
Speaker 4: But she's a.
Speaker 2: She's yeah, just smelling like pachuli farts and uh, you
Speaker 2: know in sense, that's what smells like in a dead
Speaker 2: fish show. DEUTCHA. I don't have been to a fish show,
Speaker 2: but dead shows or you know, I've been to a
Speaker 2: further festival. I guess that's the closest I've been.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I stay away from ship like that. I spent
Speaker 4: some time in Eugene, Oregon, and I just I've got
Speaker 4: to know the dead Heads way too well, because that's
Speaker 4: all where they all went. The ones that still like
Speaker 4: the Dead, they all live in Eugene in Montana, the
Speaker 4: ones that still follow the Dead anyway. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't think they're horrible musicians, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 4: But when I found out about their fucking involvement and
Speaker 4: all of the goddamn CIA bullshit, I was kind of glad.
Speaker 4: It's like, ah, no wonder, I hated.
Speaker 2: That Cia Tavistock in Bohemian Road. And people still want
Speaker 2: to say the Dead Head aren't some sort of spook god.
Speaker 4: But I still love all the Laurel Canyon bands no matter.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well I try not to. Yeah, I understand you're saying.
Speaker 2: I find myself listening to a lot of grunge music still,
Speaker 2: but I try not to.
Speaker 4: World Canyon two point zero for sure.
Speaker 2: I tried to introduce too many psychological operations to my
Speaker 2: brain hole. But as I offer you all some closing statements,
Speaker 2: and I want to thank you all both for joining
Speaker 2: me here tonight for the film review to get old GCD,
Speaker 2: and I'm going to send y'all off with some horrible,
Speaker 2: just nightmare thoughts of Fat Charlie here and it's fifty
Speaker 2: pound beer belly for that film, But do you have
Speaker 2: any other closing commentary?
Speaker 4: First, you go ahead, if you really care about my podcast,
Speaker 4: go listen to the beginning of the episode. I'm not
Speaker 4: gonna say it again.
Speaker 2: But you can go.
Speaker 1: You don't have any closing thoughts on the movie.
Speaker 4: No, I got it all out. I mean, Nazis rule,
Speaker 4: Arnold Schwartzenegger is really hot. His fucking pecks in this
Speaker 4: movie have a mind of their own. I like the movie.
Speaker 4: I grew up with it.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's funny.
Speaker 4: As a kid?
Speaker 3: I did?
Speaker 4: Watching it the other night. I was like, yeah, this
Speaker 4: is a kid's movie, But why are they putting fucking
Speaker 4: aerospace laboratories and not the experimentation in it?
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I don't think I laughed at all.
Speaker 2: I mean a joke. I don't think I laughed at
Speaker 2: all when I watched it. And even the humor as
Speaker 2: a child, like I remember laughing.
Speaker 4: But like Danny Debido was the funny character when you're
Speaker 4: a kid. Now he's just annoying.
Speaker 2: Now he's just doing Yeah, it doesn't play well.
Speaker 4: When you're a little kid.
Speaker 1: He was the funny part of the movie, all right,
Speaker 1: But now and JJ, you have to do this too,
Speaker 1: you have to rate it one out of ten man milkshakes.
Speaker 4: I give it six on default six milkshakes, six man milkshake. Oh,
Speaker 4: I see what he did, and that actually is my rating.
Speaker 4: I'd say I'd give this movie six out of ten,
Speaker 4: six out.
Speaker 1: Of ten man milkshakes.
Speaker 2: What about you, JJ, I'm gonna give it five. Charlie
Speaker 2: theron fat bellies.
Speaker 4: He just went with a whole other rating system on
Speaker 4: a scale.
Speaker 2: Of ten, I'm gonna give it five, five bellies.
Speaker 4: What trimester is Charlie add in this picture? Or how
Speaker 4: many fucking beer does she drinking?
Speaker 2: I think she's going for that Bog's record, But she's
Speaker 2: going for that Wade Bogs record, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Drinking seventy two beers on one one cross country flight.
Speaker 2: That's what she's aiming for.
Speaker 1: That looks like a bud Line.
Speaker 2: Now familiar with the legend of Wade Bogs. I think
Speaker 2: he had a couple of chickens there in the mix too.
Speaker 4: What you're reading, I'm going to give it.
Speaker 1: Four out of ten, uh Man, and I'm going to
Speaker 1: give it I'm going to give it uh two out
Speaker 1: of ten. Corey Feldman, Michael Jackson dances.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I came in it sticks and give it
Speaker 4: the highest rating.
Speaker 1: I give it to McCully sandwiches.
Speaker 4: That's enough for one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they call that. They call it a double colcone.
Speaker 2: Definitely one carrying on the other. Just mash it together, well,
Speaker 2: chack out it was.
Speaker 1: It was okay movie. I liked doing the background research
Speaker 1: on it. I thought that it was interesting, the little
Speaker 1: stuff that they snuck in there. But as far as
Speaker 1: like a comedy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you mean to tell me you're not the son
Speaker 2: of a Nazi talking about Nazi genetic experiments in a
Speaker 2: comedy about aerospace and hood ratshit? Okay?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I gotta say, uh, so I married an
Speaker 1: axe murderer. I I don't know if I gave it
Speaker 1: a tint, but that's a tint for me. Like, I
Speaker 1: thought it was hilarious.
Speaker 2: I appreciate y'all being such a fan of that film.
Speaker 2: It's one of my favorites, very integral in my early
Speaker 2: teenage conspiracy culture mindsets.
Speaker 4: It's almost like that was Mike Myer's warm up to
Speaker 4: Wayne's World, and then Austin powers like he got some
Speaker 4: creative control, even though it wasn't that smooth.
Speaker 2: And yeah, he did. He fought, he fought to rewrite
Speaker 2: that entire script that was all Mike Miners script. He
Speaker 2: rewrote the whole thing and to stick with it, and
Speaker 2: there was a whole lawsuit because he didn't get any
Speaker 2: He actually didn't get credited for it. The original writer did,
Speaker 2: even though it was a whole change up. But when
Speaker 2: whenever y'all come back again to join me here to
Speaker 2: get a little more GCD and maybe a Friday's here
Speaker 2: in the future, we can do some roundtables on these matters,
Speaker 2: because I looked into the stuff further, looking at all
Speaker 2: the Saquino and LaVey stuff. So the entire film we
Speaker 2: talked about a little bit in the film review, but
Speaker 2: the entire film because of the Presidio scene, But the
Speaker 2: entire film is focused in North the North Beach neighborhood
Speaker 2: of San Francisco, where Leavey's from, where the Church of
Speaker 2: Satan started, right and where Marilyn Monroe and Joe Demagio
Speaker 2: used to live and where they used to hang out
Speaker 2: with Anton LeVay.
Speaker 1: That's so fucking wild, yep.
Speaker 4: And then in the Diddy Trail it comes out that
Speaker 4: Mike Myers the CIA, What the fuck? What the fuck like,
Speaker 4: of course, but why why why did that come out
Speaker 4: during the Diddy trial Because he couldn't be interviewed, he couldn't.
Speaker 2: Appreciate to Yeah, I thought that was weird too, dude,
Speaker 2: But like, let's be honest, all these people are part
Speaker 2: of the same kind of a Ran Contra franchise. Even
Speaker 2: these music executives and stuff, and the film executives no
Speaker 2: different because they're in caps lay the same network of moneylaundery,
Speaker 2: et cetera. For example, the fellow this in charge of
Speaker 2: mc A, who's largely in the background of all this
Speaker 2: Britney Spears nonsense. I know, Julian is what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: He he's deeply involved in I Ran Contra.
Speaker 1: Fuck that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, perhaps we can put in a pen on that
Speaker 2: for a future discussion, because I know you like the
Speaker 2: Britney Spears stuff over there, Julia.
Speaker 4: Well, and then you get the scientologists making the movie
Speaker 4: about Bobby Seal, just to add that to it, because wow.
Speaker 2: That just helps shit out the matter when they make
Speaker 2: some ship up and there with Tom don't know. Don't
Speaker 2: get me wrong, I like to watch Tom cruise. He
Speaker 2: plays a really good tall guy and knows how to fight,
Speaker 2: but that is all that story.
Speaker 4: He knows how to fight.
Speaker 2: But well, I mean, dude, I saw him fight five
Speaker 2: dudes at one time, and Jack Reacher, Yeah, but.
Speaker 4: If you try to put him in a fucking sex
Speaker 4: scene with his real wife in real life, he doesn't
Speaker 4: know what to do.
Speaker 2: Let's be honest. It's not that's a homosexual man. Let's
Speaker 2: be honest about exactly.
Speaker 4: I say. He could play a guy that fights in
Speaker 4: the movie, but every love scene.
Speaker 2: He plays a straight guy. He plays a straight tall
Speaker 2: guy who's how to fight. Real well, I like like,
Speaker 2: I like the analysis there maybe though Jack Reacher. It's
Speaker 2: got some real deep parapolitical ship in there too. Again,
Speaker 2: it's the scientologists making these deep parapolitical films which interest
Speaker 2: me because Enemy of the State that's a full blown
Speaker 2: scientology production, chalk full of all sorts of almost the
Speaker 2: entire full cast of scientologists. Gene Hackman, well, he's on
Speaker 2: my He's my number Speaking of northern New Mexico and
Speaker 2: weird Dess, Gene Hackmans is weird as ship. No one
Speaker 2: really talks about that. He's my number one pick for
Speaker 2: secret scientologist. There's only so many times you can star
Speaker 2: opposite you know Tom or not Tom, Tom Cruise, John Travolta,
Speaker 2: and Dennis Hopper. Performance started asking process and scientology questions
Speaker 2: about you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Hoosier's classic.
Speaker 2: I love Hoosiers, dude, Yeah, used to. I used to
Speaker 2: watch Hoosiers before every basketball game in high school just
Speaker 2: to get all ramped was. I watched the end the
Speaker 2: end of Hoosiers to get ramped up for some basketball.
Speaker 2: Also smoke adobe. That would help me out too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I couldn't play without smoking, because you know, I shot
Speaker 2: a lot better.
Speaker 3: Dude.
Speaker 2: It's amazing, you know, you know it's funny.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I realized why the NBA doesn't you know, drug tests
Speaker 2: for pot. You know what I mean, Because yeah, they
Speaker 2: wouldn't make nearly as many shots do I'll tell you
Speaker 2: that much. I used to make a lot of shots
Speaker 2: when I smoke, a dude before games.
Speaker 4: Suckers would retire if they had to drug test.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that I used to play a lot.
Speaker 2: You get you're locked in, dude, I'm just telling.
Speaker 4: You anything like that, pool, darts, basketball. I had a
Speaker 4: cousin who was damn good at basketball, and he told
Speaker 4: me he never played a game sober.
Speaker 2: Well, I wouldn't say never. I was. I was a
Speaker 2: three point champ at all all the Air Force bases
Speaker 2: I was stationed at. But I was sober then. But
Speaker 2: I shot a lot better if I had some doobies
Speaker 2: in me. You get a couple of dobies in me,
Speaker 2: I've started. I just you know, suddenly I'm out there,
Speaker 2: you know, just balled up. But no, huss was definitely
Speaker 2: that was my Yeah, dude, Dennis Hopper, Gene Hackman and
Speaker 2: that it's fantastic. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Oh, it's like a family sports movie.
Speaker 2: It's a legendary family sports film about the underdog, underdog
Speaker 2: basketball team from Milan, Indiana.
Speaker 4: You know what's better than that is the Pistol Pete
Speaker 4: movie that didn't get as big.
Speaker 2: Pistol Pete Maravich's He's a Legend.
Speaker 4: That was a good movie. The Black School there at
Speaker 4: the end and missed the lay up at the end.
Speaker 2: How about about Gene Hackman and the ship coating of
Speaker 2: the French connection? What are your thoughts on that one?
Speaker 4: You know that movie I need to watch again because
Speaker 4: I went to film school. I watched it there. My
Speaker 4: dad loved the movie, And now that I know, all
Speaker 4: the fucking shit that really happened. I need to watch
Speaker 4: it again because it would be like the first time
Speaker 4: all over again.
Speaker 2: I'd like to hear your thoughts when you rewatch it,
Speaker 2: because that movie was huge, dude. Was that was what
Speaker 2: seventy two? That was an enormous film. Dude. Yeah, we
Speaker 2: look back now and didn't really shait caret the whole
Speaker 2: subject matter.
Speaker 4: My opinion, kind of would expect that. But it's kind
Speaker 4: of like a similar themes almost with Kolanski's movie What
Speaker 4: the Fuck Chinatown?
Speaker 2: Yes, there old cocaine Bob.
Speaker 4: Oh he's was he involved in that?
Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely agree with that film, absolutely well. He was
Speaker 2: a head of Paramount Robert Town. The writers is the
Speaker 2: little riding sidekick.
Speaker 1: So between you and JJ, I'm gonna have a pretty
Speaker 1: decent taste in movies. Because anytime Kolby's like, you have
Speaker 1: to watch this movie and I'm like, I don't want
Speaker 1: to watch it. That one with woking.
Speaker 4: Females, Yeah, inherent vice. I made her watch that and
Speaker 4: then like two days later you brought it up to her.
Speaker 4: I was like, Oh, she's glad she watched that now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And Confessions of a Dangerous Mind one.
Speaker 4: Of my favorite movies.
Speaker 2: Ever made film. George here vice is I mean? And
Speaker 2: what's that?
Speaker 4: I said? George Clooney is good for only one thing,
Speaker 4: and it was that movie.
Speaker 2: Well, George Clooney's wife wasn't good for much when she
Speaker 2: was joining the Sane's attorney. But that's a horse of
Speaker 2: a slightly different color, I suppose. But current your current wife, correct, Yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: she was joining the songe's attorney. She quit when he
Speaker 2: released all the Podesta emails.
Speaker 4: Well that kind of was a conflict of interest to
Speaker 4: when his butt buddies Barack.
Speaker 2: Well, then you gotta think Pamela Anderson was one of
Speaker 2: the few folks visiting Juliana the songs in the Ecuadora
Speaker 2: Embassy for about six years, and she's suddenly back on
Speaker 2: the scene now in these in these films.
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, she's hooking up with Liam Neeson.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but now Thomas Benschein is one of my favorite authors,
Speaker 2: and then Paul Thomas Anderson and despite him I think
Speaker 2: being a secret scientologist, one of my favorite directors and
Speaker 2: filmmakers there. But in Herentvice, dude, Like, that's easily probably
Speaker 2: my favorite. It's easyly my favorite film in the last
Speaker 2: like twenty years. By far.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I say, I say it's top five for me
Speaker 4: of all time.
Speaker 1: And see Kolbe makes me look cool in front of JJ,
Speaker 1: knowing all these movies and stuff like I just watched
Speaker 1: cool shit all the time. But actually I'm like, not.
Speaker 4: She's You've seen a lot of fucking crazy shit I
Speaker 4: haven't seen.
Speaker 2: I'm definitely gonna be doing another film review of in
Speaker 2: Harrent Advice because I just love it that much. I
Speaker 2: done in the past with the Recluse at the Farm, but.
Speaker 4: That guy's fucking awesome.
Speaker 2: Recluse alright, Oh, Recluse is no dude. Me and Reckley
Speaker 2: has been on some strange adventures. We've had some high.
Speaker 4: That podcast should be way bigger.
Speaker 2: Than it is. I'm a big fan. I'm a big fan.
Speaker 2: We've met over matters of the Society of the Cincinnati
Speaker 2: and uh, we've been on a few journeys in regards
Speaker 2: to that. But we had a really weird experience about
Speaker 2: two years ago at Serpent Mound here in Ohio.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: We ate a bunch of shrooms uh and then suddenly
Speaker 2: got somehow lost or time warped in some place called Belfast, Ohio.
Speaker 2: Never heard of the town, and we found a night
Speaker 2: of Pitheas Hall. So we're taking a photos, me and
Speaker 2: him and are due to Ed and uh doc Inferno,
Speaker 2: and we're taking some photos in front of this place,
Speaker 2: and I, you know, I give the locals, you know, Audi,
Speaker 2: you know, and they were not too kind to me.
Speaker 2: I give them a nice Appalachian hello there, folks, and
Speaker 2: we're friendly. And they were just taking photos in front
Speaker 2: of this Night's of Pitheus lodge that looks like it's
Speaker 2: in shambles, but apparently it's still in operation. We go
Speaker 2: into the local country store next and then come out
Speaker 2: out and then we have a literal too, like two
Speaker 2: groups of dudes circling around our ship in the car
Speaker 2: and the parking lot. Dude, I tell and again three
Speaker 2: out of the four of us were all on shrooms.
Speaker 2: I was supposed to give him directions. Ed he was driving,
Speaker 2: he was a sober one. I don't think that worked out,
Speaker 2: he said. I told them, guys, I said, just maintain
Speaker 2: contact with the car, keep walking and getting the cars
Speaker 2: fashcan with the fun out of it. But they didn't like.
Speaker 2: They that little town, for whatever reason, got super but hurt.
Speaker 2: We were taking we did. We literally took one photo
Speaker 2: like in front of this night to Pitheis lodge because
Speaker 2: it was an interesting old building.
Speaker 4: And that lodge that town exists. You were You ain't kidding,
Speaker 4: dud on a sacred sacred You ain't kidding, dude.
Speaker 2: And we inadvertently got there because I gave d the
Speaker 2: wrong directions when we left surpro Mound that day. But
Speaker 2: there is no inadvertently, That's what I'm saying, dude. Then
Speaker 2: we all we all went to the Amish market and
Speaker 2: joined some pies afterwards, and think thankfully we got out
Speaker 2: of there safely.
Speaker 1: That's the one thing that Ohio was good for. I
Speaker 1: took Colby to Ohio to visit my family in Homage country.
Speaker 1: I didn't get to stop by one of the little
Speaker 1: homage stores, but they have the best everything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, apparently they were like two inches away from Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't get If you don't stop by an
Speaker 2: homage stand for some delicious pies, you're not doing it right.
Speaker 2: You're just doing it.
Speaker 1: I would have they were so, you know, the the
Speaker 1: ones that were by my house. They had like egg
Speaker 1: noodles and butter and milk and pies and like tutory
Speaker 1: boards and like all this shit. Honestly, I could live
Speaker 1: just off of it.
Speaker 4: They do, they do food, They just they just don't
Speaker 4: wash their hands.
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen them build something? Dude? I watched
Speaker 2: them build. They build a barn in my and my
Speaker 2: buddies dad's form number years back, and I watched that
Speaker 2: go down number years. I was like sixteen numbers back,
Speaker 2: and I was like, holy shit, literally, dude, there was
Speaker 2: just like a swarm of Amish folks invaded the farm
Speaker 2: and then like like an hour later there was a
Speaker 2: born Like this.
Speaker 4: Is like what they're like white Mexicans.
Speaker 2: It was impressive, dude. They're like they're picking up a
Speaker 2: frame and carrying the frame. Dude, like all of them together.
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's impressive. Guys. They're like that's impressive.
Speaker 1: Do you remember I told you about.
Speaker 4: The Yeah, her cousin's married to a dude, And I
Speaker 4: mean when he build ship, he just goes out and
Speaker 4: hires Amish people to help him.
Speaker 1: They put his garage.
Speaker 2: That's a thinking man.
Speaker 4: In a day, Yeah, little nice little shop, Yeah, in
Speaker 4: a day.
Speaker 2: I like, it's a man who uses his brain hole
Speaker 2: for something other than a paperweight. And I like it.
Speaker 2: I like it well, I appreciate you all joining me here.
Speaker 2: Have you got any closing statements and final last words
Speaker 2: before we go?
Speaker 4: Maybe in about a year we should get together and
Speaker 4: do Junior or I like it or or sooner.
Speaker 2: But well, we'll get some more. I'm definitely looking forward
Speaker 2: to the Halloween stuff, but we'll definitely I'm looking more
Speaker 2: for I mean, I like, I would like to do Junior,
Speaker 2: but I didn't hear advice is uh, it's gonna be
Speaker 2: on top of my brain because again that's uh, do
Speaker 2: you ever read that book? So many times I've watched
Speaker 2: that movie. Son, I'll dude, I'll start quoting the movie
Speaker 2: right here. Dude, watch out.
Speaker 4: I never read the book, so maybe I should do
Speaker 4: that before we.
Speaker 2: Do our review. There you go? All right? Well on
Speaker 2: that note, first the interviews, Thanks for joining us, and
Speaker 2: catch you next time.
Speaker 5: Take out those papers and the trash. Are you don't
Speaker 5: get those be cash? If you don't spend that, you
Speaker 5: you ain't gonna rock and roll? No boot, let's go,
Speaker 5: let's see that with that boom. Get all that tobby
Speaker 5: is outside?
Speaker 3: Are you don't go out fighting night?
Speaker 2: Don't to back?
Speaker 5: You just put on your coat and hat and what
Speaker 5: you said for the laundry bad. And when you finished
Speaker 5: doing that, ring in the dog and put out the candle.
Speaker 2: Me don't toe back