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Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Tim, what happened on the Sweet Show?
Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, guys. This is All Stars season five Rivals,
episode number six. It's called a star Holder is Born.
This episode starts off Veronica and Frank talking and their
plan is basically target the strong players because us weak
people need a chance to win this game. I like
these underdog a lineses. I like it when these things
are starting to come together. What do you guys think
about these? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I liked it.
Speaker 1: I don't mind it. I wish it wasn't Frank.
Speaker 2: Though, Why not?
Speaker 1: Because I just hate Frank. Frank is terrible. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I feel like Frank is trying to be good this
season and it's sort of his working, but he's you
can tell it. There's assholes. It's like, right, under the service.
He's like, fucking severe asshole right under the service. You
can just see it. But I do like the plan
of getting out the strong players. I like that Frank
is sort of spearheading it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed How messy for Veronica
was this episode too?
Speaker 2: Uh So a little bit of a shake up. Guys.
We're not doing a bar and night. We're doing just
a party night at the house tonight.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Dario is talking about Ashley, how ash is a good mom,
she likes being social, but he eludes to like that
they've never really had a great conversation since the since
the breakup. Care Yeah, I kind of don't care about
Dario and Ashley either. But Carl, I have a very
important question for you. The lone the lone woman of
the group. We have these shots of like Ashley and
Curly Fries or not Ashley? Is that how it is?
Speaker 3: Yes, Curly Price.
Speaker 2: They're swinging around in circles and laughing.
Speaker 1: And stuff like that, like children.
Speaker 2: This is like I've seen this in movies, like women
are in slumber parties and they're like all goofing around stuff.
This doesn't happen. This is not a real life thing, right,
women don't know this ship where they're all giggling like
this and stuff.
Speaker 3: I mean, like we do giggle, but we don't like
it's not like swing each other around. And at least
I've never done that ship. Like, maybe that's a mom thing,
like you you've been around kids for so long, like
your brain has just changed bits. I don't know, and
I'm not trying to. I'm not mom shaming. I'm just saying, like,
maybe it's a different that's the difference.
Speaker 1: I think this is a you're stuck in the challenge house,
has nothing to do, and you've been Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'd be more inclined to situation.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm into that. It just felt very weird to me.
This felt super It's just like, do women do this?
This is weird, this bonding thing strange? All right? Next up,
we see Shane and Davon talking. Remember they're there. Remember
Shane and Davon they exist.
Speaker 3: Forgot that they were on this show until this episode.
Speaker 2: I know, me too, But this is kind of a
cool conversation. And this is where we find out that
really Shane and Davon are sort of pulled in two
directions more than any of their team. Davon is aligned
with one side of the house, Shane is sort of
aligned with the other side of the house, and it's
causing some sort of turmoil in their group, and they
don't really know how to work within the boundaries of
how these alignments are all set up. I don't know
you guys have any theories on how on where they
fit in this game, how their situation is going to
play out.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if they end up in next week.
Speaker 2: You think that's just they're too conflicted.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I feel like this is an Amanda
and Zach type of thing. I can only remember like
bits and pieces of this episode today was so fucking traumatic.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if neither one of them are
really connected with anybody.
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I wouldn't be surprised either. But I just
I feel like this is a Zach and Amanda type
of thing. But like they don't have the conviction enough
to actually stand up for one side or another, and
I have a feeling that that's just going to come
and bite them in the ass hard.
Speaker 1: But I feel like if Davon went up to her
side and was like we're cool, right, and they're like, yeah,
we're cool. I guess, but I mean, I don't know,
like you're on my side, Like I don't feel like
there's any strong connection for either one of them, yeah,
even though they're pretending like we're best friends with all
these people and they're both probably like at the bottom
of their groups.
Speaker 2: Well, but I think it's Shane's point though, is from
what I gathered in this conversation, Shane is kind of
saying to Davon, like, we got to pick a side.
We have to pick pick a team here and pick
and do that, And Davon is saying like, now we're
just gonna like sort of float in the middle and
see how far we can get sort of not picking
a side.
Speaker 3: I feel like they are probably at the end of
that rope.
Speaker 2: I think now is the time they got to pick one.
And I think by floating in the middle, I think Carling,
you're right, they're gonna get thrown in by floating in
the middle, because they're not they're not trustworthy. You know,
you do have to pick a side and hope for
the best kind of in my opinion, all right, and
with that we're undo the challenge. It starts off with
TJ talking about what happens to the star as you
guys recall last elimination. Uh, somebody went home who had
a star. Can't remember who, I don't care. That's it.
So there was a star up for grabs and TJ
tells us what happens, and basically, the first player to
win this challenge who is not a star holder gets
that star, but that star is not safe unless that
person is also the first place finisher of the day.
I don't know. It's kind of makes sense, but it's
also seems sort of like super anti climactic considering the
build up to like ooh big, what happens to the star?
It's kind of boring, superborn. Yeah, I had nothing else
to say about that. Just boring.
Speaker 3: No, I know, it's sorry, I mean it just it
was It wasn't all that big of a thing, Like
we kind of guessed that this was all going to
happen when we were speculating last week. Like I don't know,
I don't feel like there was really any other way
that they could have done this other than to like
give it to the star holder, Like if a star
holder won, then they would get to keep the star
but they're never going to do that. I know that
Zach really wants that to happen, but that's never gonna happen.
That's never going to happen. They're never going to be
I think bank it.
Speaker 2: I don't think they should be able to bank it,
but I think that they should be able to be
given the start to give away before the next challenge
or whatever. And like, I mean, I do think they
should win. They should get something for winning that elimination.
It feels weird they get nothing.
Speaker 3: I would have been okay if a star holder won
it and then they had to immediately, like at before
they went back to the house, had to immediately give
it away, like pick someone while they're standing there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I like that. I love when they do that sort
of thing where it's like, okay, pick right now.
Speaker 1: It's what they did last season on All Stars.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just.
Speaker 1: Like all right, you want it, and now what are
you gonna do with that? Oh shit?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Like I love when they do that because then
it puts somebody on the spot. It makes them like,
who what are we gonna do? What are we gonna do?
Speaker 2: Yeah? But also it adds another layer of sort of
complexity and possible strategy to the game. You know, when
these this felt like a cheap escape, Yeah, but in
this case, this game is called playing Dirty, kind of
a fun game. And there's like a big slide that's
covered in black paint, and you slide down the slide
trying to get off as much paint as you can.
It reveals oh yeah, to keep saying mud, it reveals pictures.
Those pictures correlate to letters, and then you have to
unscramble the letters, basically puzzle thing. We see these a lot.
Speaker 3: I appreciated that everybody's answer was different.
Speaker 2: Yes, no kidding, yeah, the unscrambled.
Speaker 3: Words because the moment that the first person screamed out
the word was like, why did you yell it? And
then I realized that every answer was different.
Speaker 2: But also that the first heat it didn't matter right
the first person finished, and then the other two was
just like, yeah, you can just stop playing. I guess
I don't know, Like we've talked about it before, we
don't need to do it again. But I fucking hate this.
I hate this. I hate this. Beyond that, I don't know,
not much to talk about here. There is some strategy
that I liked. Like Corey was hanging and trying to
kick off mud. Some people were sliding sideways.
Speaker 1: That was my even before it started. I'm like, I
would slide sideways.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, turn your body sideways and try to.
Speaker 1: I kept calling it mud. I'm like, oh, that'd be easy.
You just lay sideways and go down. It'll be like
a fucking squeegee. But then they showed more it's more
of like consistency of like a lottery scratch off ticket
almost like it's not necessarily mud. And I'm like, okay,
that's a little bit hurder. I guess so I think Corey,
who I thought was going to get in trouble, I
had the better idea of just sort of hanging down
and trying to move his body back and forth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like he only he was only able to
get the top like quarter of it doing that, so
like he still had to slide down.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I thought it was an interesting like having the having
their team sending big Tea directly over to start like
trying to figure out the things rather than like do
a few slides and then go.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I thought it was a little strange.
Speaker 2: Well I think too, like, well, if you nailed it
with the consistency of the ship that they're knocking off,
because I think a lot of people start off sideways
and then realize like, oh, this isn't gonna work. Because
then we saw him. They were all strictly on their
butt because I think the pressure, I think the downward
pressure met more than area. And you know in this case,
because yeah, the successful people seemed like they were just
going straight down, right on their butts. But yes, there
were a few people that took that approach Carlin, of
just sending one person over to the puzzle. Big t
was one of the ones that was sent right over.
And she was one that she was one that surprised
me actually, because wasn't it revealed that she's actually like
a super strong swimmer, like last season or a season before,
like yeah, seasons ago she was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was like on her high school swim team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and it seems like she could have done
three or four, Like she's a good swimmer, Like why
not just do a couple of rounds instead of swimming
over there and then just standing there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, at least to a few, like, no one's gonna
get it in the first thing. And I get that,
like the you have the anxiety of like, oh, well,
what if another team it's to their thing first, but
like go up and down two or three times, help
your partner open it up a little bit, and then
go and try. Like once you get the first, the
first one uncovered, then go because then you can at
least like attempt to start like putting some things together
and maybe like telling them, Okay, now you need to
go you know, left, to the right, all that sort
of thing to kind of figure out where you need
to uncover the next one.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it felt very strange that she didn't even she
did one and that was it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, big t. Some of these makes sense, like Davon
makes sense. She's not a great swimmer. It would have
been hard for her to keep going back to the swim.
Speaker 3: Was one that was almost almost as bad as watching
Who was that? Who was Davon's partner years ago?
Speaker 2: Oh? Ship the guy will Fee That's always.
Speaker 3: The gay guy.
Speaker 2: Uh fucking he's known for something that he wasn't actually, Yeah,
just Jose Jose, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Josea that whatever it was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they spelled Jose, oh, but I think it just
pronounced Jose.
Speaker 3: Like watching him go in the water like legitimately terrified.
I thought we were watching someone die.
Speaker 2: He looked straight up like he was gonna drown that guy. Yes,
he was as close as we've seen the drowning I
think on the show and the one that's the one
he's known for. Yeah, he said something like, I'm known
for my agility, and it's like, no, you're not. You're
not known for anything.
Speaker 1: Camera makes my teeth look rotten.
Speaker 2: No, you look you look great?
Speaker 3: Woan, I got mine cleaned this morning?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Great? Uh Sam. But Sam and Frank have the same approach.
Sam goes straight to the puzzle board. Frank just does
the slides, looks as handsome as ever going down the slides.
We'll fee you're obsessing, stop doing that gross And for
them like they win it right, like we just we
just said how terrible of a strategy this was, but
in this case won it with this terrible strategy.
Speaker 3: But I mean, I feel like Frank didn't Frank go
down it a few times or did I just miss that.
Speaker 2: Frank went down to like six or seven times, but
Sam Sam only once? Oh really, I mean I think
that's what that's I think from what I typed out here.
Speaker 1: Well, she went down sideways, did nothing. She may have
gone down one more.
Speaker 2: Time after that, but she Yeah, she became the.
Speaker 1: Pedestal, the podium person.
Speaker 2: Yeah. One of the one of the people in their
confessionals said, oh, they you know, Frank and Sam got
done really fast, but Frank had to slide down six
or seven times. Yeah, somebody said something like that.
Speaker 1: So Sam, Sam points out she's a gamer, so solving
puzzles like this is something she's used to, which I agree.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. Second heat, we see Turbo Nanny fighting,
and I don't know if this is Turbo Carl, and
I would love to hear your opinion on this in
terms of men and women fighting, but Turbo, we saw
this with the fucking Ninja too, and now we see
you with Nanni, where Turbo feels very rejected and condescended
if a woman corrects him or questions him or second guesses.
But I don't know if this is a Turbo thing
or if this is a Nanni and Ninja thing.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: I mean, he definitely, he most definitely feels he doesn't
He feels a certain way when women talk back to him.
But Nanni obviously very much does not trust what he's saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was right in this one.
Speaker 3: Every time he would say something, she'd be like, oh,
he was just kind of like, okay, but trust me,
but he is, you need to trust me.
Speaker 2: And he was right by the way with Nanni and Ninja,
like both times that this that a similar thing happened,
he was right both times. So that makes it a
little weird to like solve this problem here. Yeah, well,
fore any input on this on this.
Speaker 1: Study, No, I mean from her respective Maybe she's just
worried because English is not his first language, so maybe
she was a little bit more like, you know, trepidacious
about stuff like that. But like you said, he was right,
so yeah, Well and.
Speaker 3: Then the other part is like they've been on a
team together, so like she knows his strengths and weaknesses,
so they can you would think that she'd be a
little bit more willing to, yeah, trust him on this, But.
Speaker 2: I did like what he said. He said something like
she's used to partners that are bad, and I'm a
good partner, so she just needs to like trust me.
Speaker 1: He's a humble partner.
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, so yeah, non in Turbo, they end
up winning the heat just the same as Turbo and
Ninja won their heat when they fought, So maybe this
is a maybe they maybe he should.
Speaker 1: Fight every time it's good luck for him.
Speaker 2: Maybe yep. I have a random note in here that
Dario's hair keeps changing lengths in the Confessionals. Anybody else
notice that I can't fucking stop looking at it now?
All right, well, now I'm gonna curse you guys with
that knowledge. Sometimes it's quite long, and sometimes it's shaved,
like all the way down to nothing.
Speaker 3: No, I hadn't noticed, all right. I also really just
don't fucking care about Dorio, so every time he's on
my screen on ignoring him.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: In the third heat, I don't know no notes really
except that Adam and Steve win kind of surprised. This
is like a this seems like something that old guys
would win, Like they just kind of have to be
patient and go slow and be accurate when they're wiping
shit off. And I'm not sort of surprised that the
calumn measured guys won this one.
Speaker 1: I I was super excited just because that means, you know,
Steve and Adam getting automatically thrown in and that was
real boring let's get real old.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It always adds a layer of fun where it's like, Okay,
now we get to see what really happens when you
take away an easy choice. Adam does that like insane
screaming thing that he does sometimes when he wants to
look up super weird, super weird when he does that
ship very off putting super weird dude. Yeah, and Corey
immediately starts talking and says like, hey, we might be
a target here. I think he's thinking that so far
the weaker teams have been the target and he is one,
so he's thinking, we need we need to target somebody else.
So a lot of the weaker teams are going into
full blown panic pod yeah, panic politic mode at this point,
which I love. I love these like crazy chaos episodes,
And from this on it's it's like a bunch of
like weird little vignette scenes of just chaos. I don't know,
do we need to go over every scene or do
we just need to talk about the chaos and in.
Speaker 3: General, I think just the broad strokes.
Speaker 2: Okay, here we are chaos, guys, what do you think
about chaos?
Speaker 3: I loved that Veronica kind of like m spearheaded all
of it, or at least like found a way to like,
oh my god, like we we should totally like I've
heard that someone someone else is talking about you guys,
and then goes to the next room like, oh, these
people they were talking about you, like I overheard them
say like they were they were saying your name, and
goes to the next room.
Speaker 1: The thing about that, though, is I love that before
that Nanny is spearheading stuff and she's with a bunch
of the other teams and they're talking and they're like,
we're going Veronica and Katie, Veronica and Katie, is what
we're gonna do? And then they all say to each other,
this has to be one hundred percent, no backing out.
You can't get scared, change your mind, no changing your
mind at the last minute. Everybody has to be on
the same page. Do not change your vote. And then
Veronica here is that it's like oh hell no, and
then goes around telling everybody and it just fucks everything up.
Everybody abandons their plan.
Speaker 2: YEP. I think this is this is the clearest that
we've seen maybe on any reality show ever, where chaos
saves the person that is causing the chaos because you
hear this. You hear people say that, right, like, oh,
my only option now is the cause of this chaos.
And you know, but this like we see it, like
we see these little scenes of them doing it, and
then there's people talking about it. And even in terms
of this, like they they mentioned this they pretty early
in the episode, without knowing who the they is. I
don't know. I just really loved it. I just loved
how weird this was well.
Speaker 3: And like this this episode really showed like this is
where Veronica has always been good in this game. She
is good at this kind of shit, and it doesn't
recently it has not worked for her because she she's
an older player and it's a young player's game now
and she doesn't have any of the physical stuff to
like back it up anymore, and not that she ever
really did, but like really doesn't have the physical stuff
to back it up now, so it's just it. It
was a lot of fun to see to see her
kind of in her element in a way that we
haven't seen a really long time.
Speaker 2: Yep. And I liked too that it showed some other
cracks too, Like it straight up said during this conversation
we had Nonny Big Tea and Davon talking, and Davon,
in one of her confessionals, says like, yeah, now I
know that all this information, but if I tell Shane,
Shane's gonna run and tell Katie and Veronica. So I
can't even tell my own teammate. This stuff is happening,
and it's like, so now you're starting to see these
all these cracks form, and it makes sense why nobody
wants to name Katie and Veronica as the they knowing
everything else. But anyway, so that's all the chaos I made.
Speaker 1: It's so much more interesting since we knew Steve and
Adam were not going in. I love it, Like this
is my favorite episode.
Speaker 3: So far, just Veronica. Veronica straight up calling out that,
like everybody was kind of freaking out because they had
to actually say a name. Now they had to actually
like play politics and play the game.
Speaker 2: Yep, and Katie and Ronic are removed themselves as the
easy choice, which I think they were. Yeah, most people
could say their names and everybody would sort of get it,
but yeah, this's chaos. They can't do that anymore. We
get Katie's masterclass. This is like, uh, but it's like
one of the best and then like one of the worst.
Giving advice is just sort of weird.
Speaker 3: In at least this masterclass somewhat made sense.
Speaker 2: This one made sense for Katie. It's titled Controlling Chaos,
and basically she's talking to Melissa Carlon, I'm gonna need
you to explain this conversation. I didn't follow it because
I was too busy looking at Melissa's boobs. So I
don't even know this. I don't even know what they
talked about. Well, feel you know.
Speaker 1: Because I was watching this at work and I was like,
I hope nobody's walking by while I'm watching this scene
where her boobs are just out so hot.
Speaker 3: So I was also watching this at work, and like
I said today, it was traumatic.
Speaker 2: So it's no idea, no idea.
Speaker 3: What I remember, like half of this, what boobs.
Speaker 2: And Katie were talking about here.
Speaker 3: I do not remember what they were talking about, other
than like Katie threw out that someone was saying her
and and Nichole's name, and then yeah, that's I truly
don't know, So chat room, if you guys remember what
this conversation was, let us know.
Speaker 1: But she was using that whisper voice too, which flashed
me back to her Nicole like you pleasure me, and.
Speaker 4: Then I'll.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh I loved it. I just love Melissa. Not
my usual type, but super cute. Katie is trying to
make Melissa paranoid. I have this as my notes, so
that must have been the takeaway during this conversation. And yes,
I think the plan is Katie and Katie and Veronica
are trying to make Nicole and Melissa the scapegoats of
this thing, and so far the plan seems to be working.
Speaker 1: Jamie says, straight woman here was also distracted by the
boobs that combo.
Speaker 2: I'm glad I'm not alone here, bob.
Speaker 3: Now, maybe I should have listen.
Speaker 2: I watched this episode three times, so like take notes
and stuff. That conversation I watched five or six because
I kept missing parts. I never got it. I never
got it between the boobs and the accent. It's like,
I can't follow this. I can't follow this with her.
I can never date her, never hear anything she said.
Speaker 1: Ever, you could date her. That would be the best
part because you would just agree to everything. Sure whatever.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's it'd be the perfect relationship. All right. Well,
with that, we're on the nomination. All right, so here
we are, right nominations. We start with Big T and
Corey and they immediately throw Darry and Ashley as the
House vote. H Dario is shocked. He like just can't
believe it. He says that this is just a sign
of how fast things changed the House that they couldn't
get ahead of this one. But what do you guys
think is this? Should they have known earlier? Was this obvious?
Should they have had a plan?
Speaker 3: I don't know that they should have necessarily known earlier,
but I was kind of surprised that a name that
Big T and Corey threw out was the one that
everybody jumped on.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I wonder if there was more talks about Dario and
Ashley behind the scenes than we think, because they don't
have really any ties to anybody now that LeRoy's gone, Like,
who are they aligned with.
Speaker 1: Frank and Sam? That's just through Ashley, that's.
Speaker 2: It, and clearly not because Frank threw the men. They
both through them men so well.
Speaker 1: To be like it was at the end and he's.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, there they were going to save them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah they even threw themselves in because yeah,
there was no way to to save it. But yes,
very very sad. So yeah, it's darned Nashley. Are the
house very sad, very sad, very sad for them for
darn Nashley. Well, yeah, I guess that's it. So now
we're onto elimination. Oh I guess we did miss the
part where Curly Fries when she needs to say her vote,
she votes for Melissa Nicole because she thinks they're start
of the rumors, and.
Speaker 3: That's what Katie and Melissa were talking about. Katie and
Melissa were talking about. Katie told her that Fessie and
Amber were gunning for them.
Speaker 2: Yea, and so yes this, I think Curly Fries realizes like, oh,
I was played for a fool. I look really stupid
in this moment. I'm not sure that'll change the thing,
because I think she is just sort of stupid.
Speaker 3: I think almost everybody on the show.
Speaker 2: Okay, now we really are at elimination. Uh TJ calls
down darwn Ashley asked for Adam and Steve, who are
you throwing in against them? And for some reason, they
say Big T and Corey. What is the reason though, guys.
Speaker 1: Because they made a deal with Nannie and Turbo and.
Speaker 2: Who else Fessian Curly.
Speaker 3: So do we think that this deal is actually going
to hold any water? And they're not going to go
in the next however many episodes they're on the show.
Speaker 2: So so here's the deal. Adam is stupid. I think
Adam is the one that wanted to take this vote. Steve,
I think doesn't because no, I don't think this votes.
I don't think this is going to hold any water
because what they're really saying is like, hey, if you
don't throw us in, we'll do you a solid next
time we're the power couple, we won't throw you in either.
But they're going to be the House vote. So this
doesn't do anything. This does not save them from being
the House vote. And they're gonna be the House vote.
So why did they take this deal? They should have
thrown in a stronger team. Guy, do you get counterpoint?
Anybody have a counterpoint? No?
Speaker 1: I thought for sure Nannie and Turbo were gonna go in.
Speaker 2: It should have been them. It should have been them,
for sure.
Speaker 3: I did not put a whole lot of thought to this,
But now that you lay it out, yeah, yeah, I
completely agree with you. They should have absolutely put a
stronger team in there. Putting in Corey and Big T
was just a cop out for them, Like yeah, I
mean even though it was a game that theoretically anybody
could win, like.
Speaker 2: It just yeah, all these are but they're they're all
taking the Woos move of throwing in a weak team
when you're a power When you're a power player, you
throw in a weak team and hope they don't come back.
Speaker 1: I hat, I do too.
Speaker 2: I do too. Boring, It's so boring. It's just been
a boring season. But that's what happened here.
Speaker 1: I think this is what's turning me off to the show,
just since we have the same people come back every season. Yeah,
everybody's afraid to do something because they don't want to
piss someone off season.
Speaker 2: But does that make you appreciate like a Frank this
season that gives no Fox and he'll just piss off
whoever and lie and don't give a show because he's
still Frank.
Speaker 3: I did find out at worked today that a coworker
of mine is a big fan of the Challenge watching
this season. She doesn't listen to podcasts, but she does
the Challenge.
Speaker 1: Did you promote did you tell her you're on a
Challenge podcast.
Speaker 3: That's how we got onto the conversation.
Speaker 1: I found out three other coworkers of mine that I
actually like fucking hate Donald Trump today, m afraid to
like always afraid to bring it up work. I assumes, well,
I assume working for PBS, it means you're pretty liberal leaning.
But you know, I just don't want to bring it.
Speaker 2: Up straight straight white guy in the Midwest Carlin. We
we have to assume all of us are are Trump vone.
This elimination is called stack attack. I kind of like
this one. I'm kind of into this. I'm not gonna I.
Speaker 1: Didn't mind it. I feel like some alterations, and I
don't know what those alterations are, would maybe make it
just a little bit better.
Speaker 2: All right, well, let's go over what the what? What
is the game? We'll tell us what the game is.
Speaker 1: So you have to stand on this I don't know,
sort of like a top sort of situation.
Speaker 2: And you have to reach out Dradel for our Jewish listeners,
Dradel for our Jewish listeners, way to be de I Tim.
Speaker 1: And there's all these stars on ropes and you have
to reach up and grab all of them and pull
them all down and get them all onto your your drade,
old situation, and then once you have them all, you
gotta stack them up on the center part of it.
And uh has to say stacked up for five seconds?
Is that what it was?
Speaker 2: And there's like eight of these things. There's more than
you think it's It looks hard.
Speaker 1: And uh, it seems like the drade is very unstable
and if you fall off and touch the dirt, get
like a ten second penalty.
Speaker 2: Yep, h that sums it up. We have one cutaway
from one player saying what he wants to use the
money for, and that's Corey. He wants a queer inclusive Jim,
which sounds great.
Speaker 1: That's also not true.
Speaker 2: Is that true?
Speaker 1: Because it cuts Daria and Daria wants to take his
mom on a Caribbean vacation.
Speaker 2: Oh I didn't catch that all right, So two people
say things.
Speaker 1: So he wants to go down to the to the
Caribbean and sleep is what he wants.
Speaker 2: Well for you just said Caribbean and then followed it
with a Caribbean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm covering both my bases.
Speaker 2: Interesting choice, Carly, what do you go with?
Speaker 3: It depends on the context I.
Speaker 2: Say Caribbean, except Pirates of the Caribbean. Right, it's like
when it's the movie, it's Caribbean. Yeah, otherwise it's Caribbean. Yeah,
it makes no sense, but there it.
Speaker 1: Is a big de I with people who say it
both ways.
Speaker 2: No, I liked it. It's very it's covered. I like it. No,
it's good. I don't know nothing much to say here.
I don't know do you guys have any notes on this?
It just kind of went the way we thought and.
Speaker 1: Corey big T fall off a lot, and at the
end they do bring up their sort of weight management,
like their weight difference, the big big problem with this. Yeah,
there's Dario and Ashley I think are a little a
little more even.
Speaker 2: So, Yeah, Corey's got to be sixty seventy pounds heavier
than Big Tea just easy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very muscular dude, obviously.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Corey's bigger than average. Big T is obviously smaller
than average. And there it is.
Speaker 1: Although during their although during during their pre thing, the
Corey does bring up they both have big asses and
things they'll do. All right, he was wrong. I like
the Big T didn't even flinch. She wasn't even like,
how dare you? She's just like yeah, yeah, we both.
Speaker 3: She turned and like butt bumped him.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well.
Speaker 2: After their loss, Corey cries and says his biggest regret
on the challenge is how much he hurt Big Tea.
I don't remember them being on a season together, much
less why the rivers started, or what was mean about
any of this shit. I don't remember. You're serious, none
of it, none of it. I don't remember.
Speaker 3: No, you don't remember the last season they were on where.
Speaker 2: They no.
Speaker 1: During nominations Corey threw her out of the bus and
said he was only nice to her too, so you
could start.
Speaker 3: It was right after like literally it was the episode
that she had just come out to the entire house.
Speaker 2: All right, I do remember that, the fact that.
Speaker 3: She was also gay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get that, all right, Yeah, I do remember that. Okay,
fair enough, Well cry away, Corey big t doesn't seem
to care. Nobody else really seems to care. I certainly
did give a shit, but uh, Corey cries on his
way out. And this is another weird thing about the season.
We see them back after they eliminated, We see them
back in the house. This was like, this is like
a throwback to like early season did this and then
we stopped doing it for millionaires, and now we're back
like her. I don't like it.
Speaker 3: Okay, the first episode that you called this out, you
said you loved that.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't like it this time. I don't like
it this time because here's the deal. Corey figured it
out that Veronica and Katie were the ones doing the
doing this shisty ship, right, and so now he gets
to go back in the house and tell everybody that's
no good. We don't like that. I don't like that.
That's you need to like learn that on your way
out and then not be able to report it back
to the house. I don't like that Corey is in
there telling everybody, but Curly Fries figures it out. Well,
I guess she doesn't figure it out. Now she knows
because Corey figured it out and told her. But so
now Curly Fries knows. We have some shots of Veronica
wearing a weird mask. I don't like this either. It's
like it's like makeup ship. I don't like seeing that.
I don't like but if oh man, but she's like
jealous of it though, and I'm picturing that combined with
the laser head, the helmet an.
Speaker 1: It's like, I'll fucking put my helmet on and fight
you puts.
Speaker 2: It on and it comes out unstoppable laser head. Yeah,
good times. Uh huh, Carl, do you have a mask
like that? No? No, if you own one, would you
do a podcast in a mask like that? Or would
you be ashamed of it and pretend like it didn't exist?
Because it makes other people uncomfortable? That's why not it's weird?
Speaker 1: Is it worse that it's like the robot mask?
Speaker 3: Or I do it to make you uncomfortable?
Speaker 1: Do you think that the robot mask is worse? Or
like the paper like the paper ones that they put
on paper, but like the wet ones.
Speaker 2: Like the gold like the gold ones that are golden.
Speaker 1: Not even the yeah, but I mean like the full
face ones. It's just like those are hannibal. Those are
worse an putting skin on my face.
Speaker 2: Those are worse. Those are worse. I'm more tolerant of
the robot face one for sure. All Right, Well that's
it for this, but Ashley and Dario decide now is
the time they got to talk about their past. Carl
and I know you're fascinated by this.
Speaker 3: Oh god, this was I could not have cared less well.
Speaker 2: It turns out that Dario and Ashley had a super
long relationship. They like fucking lived together and ship and
from what Dario says, he just straight up like left.
Like Ashley wanted a family, he didn't. So he's like
peace out, didn't break up, didn't do anything, just sort
of like left.
Speaker 3: I'm not when he said that, was not at all surprised.
Speaker 2: That seems that seems like a Dario.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised by is that Dario didn't go one step
further and be like, I can't have this conversation, calls
in his twin brother sends a twin brother since Warrio.
Speaker 2: But they seem like they are gonna mend this relationship,
not not to date again, but just to like just
to win the mon is pumped in prime to win
this money.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna win no money.
Speaker 2: It doesn't seem that way. But we're supposed to be
rooting for Daria now, so I'll do that.
Speaker 3: Dario is still sleepy Dario, and it drives me nuts
that he thinks that he knows how this game is
supposed to be played.
Speaker 2: I do like him being being passionate. I want that money.
I'm coming for that money, all right, Daria, Let's see it.
Let's see it.
Speaker 1: So me and Carlin are actually watching this series on
Amazon Prime because I just bought the whole season to
have it as a backup since YouTube and Filo was
being so shitty earlier. This season yet of the worst,
and they have like a little extra bit at the end.
It's called the final Word with the people who get eliminated.
So far, nothing interesting has come from any anybody who's
been eliminated. But I just thought we would just let
to him know he's missing a small piece of each episode.
Speaker 2: I'm not because I steal the show. Oh and that
is in fact included in the stolen versions. Yes, when
you steal it and no commercial leader, it's like the best.
You should steal everything. Everybody steal the show, do you
guys here too? CBS is gonna settle one of these lawsuits,
uh so that this merger goes through them. They're gonna
end up giving Donald Trump a bunch of money. So FOXYBS,
so steal this show.
Speaker 1: Guys, steal it and Survivor steal it.
Speaker 2: Also steal Survivor.
Speaker 1: Yes, I watched like fifteen minutes of the first episode
and it was like, I'm bored and shut it up.
Speaker 2: It's pretty good, but don't pay for it anything. Steal
it over the air too. That's what you can watch
for free, like legally I was, but I was.
Speaker 1: Watching it through Paramount Plus, which the show pays for.
So yeah, hey, everybody header challenge pot dot com joined
the Facebook group can also dry our Patreon. What do
people get on Patreon?
Speaker 2: Tim all right, pre shows, after shows years and yearsor
of contents.
Speaker 1: Even though you're encouraging people to steal shit, don't.
Speaker 2: From us, but I encourage you to steal it because
you also get access to a discord. And I will
post these episode links. I download a r I uploaded
them just before the show. I post down the links.
You can steal the show via that way, but that's
not why you're paying for Patreon. You're paying for the
other ship, pre shows, after shows years and years with content,
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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, we don't do reviews anymore. Hey, Carl, and
you want to talk about the Fantasy League.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I won't do the host real quick. Oh no,
this isn't the host likegue. Never mind, I'm ignoring the
host league the host.
Speaker 2: No, I'm coming for you in the I'm coming for
you on the host league con Oh really, yeah, I'm
coming for you. You're still I'm still in, but I'm coming.
I'm coming right.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, host League, I'm coming up. The guy
who's not here this week is at eight hundred and
twenty one Wolf, he is at six hundred and twenty.
That's fucking two hundred points. Two hundred, two hundred fucking points.
I'm at five seventy two, and Big Uncle Sweet Tea's
at five nineteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but look at my Look at my players left, Carlin,
no offense. You got a shitty team. You got a
real shit team. Yeah, and I'm feeling pretty good about
my guys. I got left all right.
Speaker 3: So Big Uncle Sweet Tea still has Sam Fessi Dario
and Turbo.
Speaker 2: I have come on, you have Katie and Veronica, both
of them like an idiot. I don't know why, because
when you're gonna lose both of.
Speaker 3: Them, you got a Nanny, Shane, Devon, Veronica and Katie.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you got two teams. Two teams, right, so
when you lose one, when you lose one, you'll lose both.
Speaker 3: Except why I did that?
Speaker 2: Except for Nannie you'll hang on to. But I got Turbo,
so you're kind of that.
Speaker 3: I'm fucked. I am fucked.
Speaker 2: Your bad times. I think your bad Times blues from
the rest of the rest of the season, and I'm
gonna beat you.
Speaker 3: It has three players. He's got Amber, Frank and Melissa.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but look at those players though.
Speaker 2: I still I don't think I'm gonna get to player too.
But I'm gonna beat you.
Speaker 3: Zach has Adam, Steve, Nicole, and Ashley. I wonder he's
two points. Adam and Steve have almost two hundred points, apiece.
Speaker 1: I think Zach reads a spoilers and then does. He
says he doesn't, but I think he's lying.
Speaker 3: He picked Adam and Steve. I don't disagree with you.
Speaker 2: I'm just excited to not be fourth place. If I
can eke out a not fourth place, that'll be the
only time I've done it in the history of the
host League. Not fucking I'm.
Speaker 3: Serious, being that I have, being that I have Davon
and Shane and Katie and Veronica. Yeah you probably are.
Speaker 2: I'm coming with you, and I'm only like forty points
behind you, like I'm gonna get there. I got Turbo fucked,
I got turbot, I got some good players. I got
some good players, all right.
Speaker 3: So the league that everybody actually cares about, the public League.
New first place person the Pussy Chickens.
Speaker 2: Sorry, Kiki sorrys in at six sixty.
Speaker 3: Kiki One More Time is in at six twenty four,
and then Take the Stars and Run is in at
six eleven. The host team is in eighth place. I
am in eleventh place. Zachie Bananas is in at thirteenth wolf.
Speaker 1: Is it twenty one?
Speaker 2: Baby?
Speaker 1: Did not move this week? Did not move?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, sweet tee? Is it twenty fifth?
Speaker 2: I'm coming up to on this one. I'm going I'm
going all out on this one.
Speaker 1: I think I picked BESSI or something this week and
that did nothing for me.
Speaker 3: Well, let's see who'd we pick on the host team?
The host team this week was Oh, that's not this week?
That come on, God damn it. The host team this
week was Frank, Nicole, Steve, and Veronica, so we got Honestly,
it wasn't a very high scoring team, which is kind
of surprising. Veronica had a lot of did a lot
of shit talking, but didn't get into any trouble with
any of it, so she only scored fourteen points.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I voted Veronica based on the coming soon Franklin
and it didn't didn't do much for me. Hmm, yeah,
that's it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Sometimes uh is there something social mediaized?
Speaker 3: And yeah, I sent something to the hold on, let
me pull up the Instagram. There was something that I
sent to the team. What did I send?
Speaker 2: I don't do we talk about the Adam sending something
shitty to Corey via DM Last week Corey posted some
dms from Adam in the last week or two. Do
you guys see that one?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: Sorry, if you do, you know more about it?
Speaker 2: Oh, just a little bit, I guess. And it didn't
make the show, but Adam preemptively.
Speaker 3: Corey on the show. I was thinking Corey, like Corey Corey.
Speaker 2: Not Oh, Corey, Corey lay, Yeah, Corey lay on the show.
So apparently it didn't make the show. But Adam sent
Corey Lay like a bunch of apologies that said sort
of like, hey, I'm gonna say some shit on the
show tonight. It doesn't I didn't mean it. Sometimes I
like to just talk shit on TV. I don't mean
anything by it. I hope it doesn't offend you. Best
of luck or whatever, something like that, and then blocked
him immediately.
Speaker 3: It sounds like he said some they maybe gay and
racial things.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but it didn't show up, but it
was not on the show. And now Adam and Corey
are not like blocked together. So I don't know what happened,
but apparently I'm guessing Adam said some really shitty stuff
to pre apologize that didn't end up airing. And that's it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. The thing that I sent was People Magazine did
a story on Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey started dating
long before they first appeared together, says his neighbor. And
we find out in that article. And I didn't actually
read the article. I just saw the post. The neighbor
that they're talking about is mister Wes So apparently wes
knew well ahead of everyone else in the world that
they were dating.
Speaker 1: That's all Taylor Swifts fit in my neighborhood lately?
Speaker 3: What oh, Sorr, I thought you met in your neighborhood.
Speaker 2: I was like, wait a second, Well, if you got
you really got to work on your West impression. Wife
Carlin did not. It just went right over her head.
Speaker 1: Did There's something's going on in my neighborhood? I have
four houses on sale just on my block.
Speaker 2: M Trump session, that's it. We're losing their house.
Speaker 3: Okay, fucking hope not.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, now that we're all depressed, does anybody else
have anything else before then we wrap up?
Speaker 2: Uh no, I'm bringing it back. By the way, guys,
I'm gonna go nuts. And if we and we can't
read negative reviews anymore, so I don't give a ship.
They can just say whatever you want.
Speaker 1: Absolutely we could read more reviews. We just don't want
to put in the efforts.
Speaker 2: We choose to not read them.
Speaker 1: Uh all right, Well for this episode that has been Brian.
Speaker 2: Big Girl, sweet you, Carling san Diego.
Speaker 1: And as uh Frank said, let's go girls, is it
not gonna play.
Speaker 4: It's not gonna play.
Speaker 1: Eight