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<v Speaker 1>Welcome everybody to the Paparazzi Podcast. I am Jedi, he

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<v Speaker 1>is Mark, and we are back for another riveting episode.

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<v Speaker 2>It is going to be ribboning.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you right now it is indeed. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>all of you are well and seated comfortably for driving

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<v Speaker 1>safe and listening well.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking and driving safe. I've been planning to put out

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<v Speaker 2>this video. I put it on YouTube, but I've been

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<v Speaker 2>planning on putting out this video of us chasing Jimmy Kimmel.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see it on YouTube?

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<v Speaker 1>I did. I watched it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been long.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was good. It was, it was I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I was entertained. But you know, it's the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>shit I love.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's always a weird thing because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I put it out as I think the public would

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<v Speaker 2>like to see it, you know, I mean I cut

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<v Speaker 2>off a lot of footage.

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<v Speaker 1>It was paps I view. It was the metaglasses, right, It.

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<v Speaker 2>Was brought to you by Metaglasses, all filmed on Meta glasses,

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<v Speaker 2>which is why I got them.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it looks sick to give you the full pap experience.

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<v Speaker 2>I was on a day rate. I heard the night

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<v Speaker 2>before about Jimmy. I think everybody heard about Jimmy. It

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<v Speaker 2>was the biggest news. I mean, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>was bigger, Charlie Kirk's assassination or Jimmy Kimmel getting canceled

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<v Speaker 2>on his show.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's pretty sad that that's even a question, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't it?

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<v Speaker 1>Though?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I honestly don't know which was bigger news. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and one guy just got a show canceled. Who gives

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<v Speaker 2>a fuck about him? He's richer than all of us,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, combined. I mean I'm talking the entire earth.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone else got assassinated, you know, for just speaking.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean it wasn't even canceled, was it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>coming back on Tuesday. It's coming back tomorrow exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So I want if it was just they said, hey, Jimmy,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll let you go back if you just tone it

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<v Speaker 2>down a little bit with the political talk.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not going to though, is he? And have you

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<v Speaker 1>watched Kimmel lately?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I've just seen clips and stuff. I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>really watched him. No, not like all things.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not entertaining, But none of the late night shows

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<v Speaker 1>are entertaining anymore. They're all just horseshit.

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<v Speaker 2>They were never entertaining, to be honest. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>like Jack Fallen. He did some fun bits for a

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<v Speaker 2>little while. You know, his stuff with Justin Timberlake, stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like that was always funny. But he was probably the

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<v Speaker 2>most talented out of all of them, except for you

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<v Speaker 2>know the old school you know, Jay Leno's and stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like that. Yeah, but Kimmel, I don't think it was

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<v Speaker 2>ever funny. And I just always find it funny that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he did The Man Show for all those years,

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<v Speaker 2>and he did a lot of questionable stuff on that

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<v Speaker 2>Man Show. Yeah, and I mean whatever else he was

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<v Speaker 2>affiliated with that Man Show because he would always do appearances.

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<v Speaker 2>It was MTV, you know, he was always doing something

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<v Speaker 2>obscene for the Man Show. And then he turns around

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, kind of fights this other fight, and

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<v Speaker 2>then everybody brings up the old footage of him doing

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<v Speaker 2>all the Man Show bits, which is you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, so Kimmel got canceled, you got put on a day, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And he fortunately lives on the same street as our

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<v Speaker 2>friend of the show, Edwin Castro. So I know the

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<v Speaker 2>sit well, I know what time he moves usually, you

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<v Speaker 2>know when he was filming. Yeah, I had seen him

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<v Speaker 2>come up and down the road or his people, and

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<v Speaker 2>the one thing I did see all the time was

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<v Speaker 2>his kind of maybe handy guy or security guy or

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<v Speaker 2>an assistant guy, whatever the guy is. You know, he's

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of the guy. All these rich people they

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<v Speaker 2>have the guy. You know, it's kind of an all guy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and nice easy said, same thing I've been doing for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time. So it wasn't too bad. But I

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<v Speaker 2>obviously got there first, and then slowly the savages started

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<v Speaker 2>arriving and arriving and arriving, you know, and it got

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<v Speaker 2>to be the point where, you know, we're all just

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<v Speaker 2>sitting in our cars. We're obviously just bored on our phones.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever is this guy even home? Is he gonna yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Is he going to come out? Because we saw him

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<v Speaker 2>leave the show the night before in a Rivian and

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<v Speaker 2>there was no Rivians around. Fortunately. One of the drive

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<v Speaker 2>bys we saw an Audi sitting in the house next door,

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<v Speaker 2>which I think he owns both the homes.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, tough.

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<v Speaker 2>Life, and so one two o'clock we see LAPD go

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<v Speaker 2>up the street and then he started talking to the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>The assistant guy just kind of a chat whatever. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>five ten minutes the cops come back down. They leave

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<v Speaker 2>no more than about twenty thirty minutes later, Jimmy comes

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<v Speaker 2>flying down the hill and this is up above Chateau Marmont.

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<v Speaker 2>These are the really narrow Hollywood Hills street, old streets,

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<v Speaker 2>old streets, very very narrow. Tons of construction everywhere, construction trucks.

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<v Speaker 2>It's chaos up in those hills if you're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>drive around fast, you know. So Jimmy comes ripping down

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<v Speaker 2>his street, but then he kind of takes Hollywood Boulevard,

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<v Speaker 2>which takes you up along through the neighborhoods. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>go straight down to Sunset. He goes through the neighborhoods.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's got the guy following, you know, and at

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<v Speaker 2>this point he's the blocker guy. Right. Honestly, two turns

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<v Speaker 2>into this follow because I was the first one on it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I thought this guy was just going to stop

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of the road. Because one saw there

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<v Speaker 2>was six cars seven cars behind him. I thought he

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<v Speaker 2>would just stop right in the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>Rod.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no way we're going to get around him. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a tight you could find a little, you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>little nook to just pop into and block the whole

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<v Speaker 2>thing and just sit there and get out and get

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<v Speaker 2>out and let the air out of your front tire,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, an, I just said that stop see for

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<v Speaker 1>five minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>And Jimmy would have been gone. Nobody would have ever

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<v Speaker 2>seen him, right, But no, this guy is glued to

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<v Speaker 2>the back of his car the entire trip.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that almost makes it easier.

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<v Speaker 2>And I kept the whole trip, I kept thinking to myself,

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<v Speaker 2>when's this say, when's this guy gonna stop? And when

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<v Speaker 2>he's gonna block us? You know, the guy never does.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's first of all, it's like, why have the

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<v Speaker 2>guy there? Just what for security purposes? To watch? Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>to film what's going on? Maybe you know proof. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, because I did hear on an interview with

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<v Speaker 2>Jimmy or I think it was a text message between

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<v Speaker 2>him and Corolla when he left The Mancha or the

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<v Speaker 2>man Show. When he left his show the day before,

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<v Speaker 2>he was being followed by a helicopter. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was a news helicopter. This chase went across Hollywood, across

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<v Speaker 2>Beverly Hills, down into Century City, where he finally went

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<v Speaker 2>into a lawyer's office went down underground. All the savages

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<v Speaker 2>go and run after him, and I don't run because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm elderly and we've gotten shots. But the funny thing was,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on the follow with the Mighty Mofo right friend

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<v Speaker 2>of the show, True Friend Show, And just like how

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<v Speaker 2>I was waiting for the blocker to block us, at

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<v Speaker 2>some point, I was waiting for the mofo to jump

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<v Speaker 2>out of his car and start shing Jimmy through the

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<v Speaker 2>windows of his car, because I know what that causes,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because once you see Mofo jump out of

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<v Speaker 2>his car and he goes up to the window of

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<v Speaker 2>that everybody now has to jump out of their car

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<v Speaker 2>and get a shot of Jimmy at one of the

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<v Speaker 2>lights that he stops at.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, exactly, a trickle down effect. Everyone's going to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And so he gets out, he does it. The

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<v Speaker 2>assistant guy yells at him, tells him to get away

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<v Speaker 2>from the car. You see it all on the video.

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<v Speaker 2>But then everybody, everybody has to jump out of their

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<v Speaker 2>cars or at least pull up and get a shot.

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<v Speaker 2>I was lucky enough to pull up at a signal

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<v Speaker 2>and get up to him where I could just shoot

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<v Speaker 2>it from my car.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So he had no tint on the front either,

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<v Speaker 1>which is crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>No tin in the front, and he just wouldn't look.

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<v Speaker 2>We were yelling at him, trying to be supportive of him,

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<v Speaker 2>but I mean, I'm not supportive of him, but.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I wondered. I didn't think you were, but

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<v Speaker 1>when you when you were yelling it, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't make me laugh. We love you, Jimmy or

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<v Speaker 1>we support you Jimmy, Like, no, you don't. Mark.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you well, and Mofo is a Jimmy supporter

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<v Speaker 2>in this sense, so he was yelling at you. But

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<v Speaker 2>it was funny because'm shooting him out of my window

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<v Speaker 2>and I look over to my right and Mofo is

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<v Speaker 2>right there and my passenger window shooting across through me

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<v Speaker 2>through my same shot that I'm doing, which is so

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<v Speaker 2>Mofo style, you know. So he goes to the lawyer's office.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't see him for the rest of the day

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<v Speaker 2>and he's gone. But the pictures are done, and I

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<v Speaker 2>believe I probably got the only shots that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because when I was going through my shots, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of stuff, a lot of him looking away, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of this whatever, But there was one shot in

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<v Speaker 2>there that actually looked like he was kind of bummed.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he's kind of looking up, kind of got

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<v Speaker 2>his head back, and all he's doing is trying to

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<v Speaker 2>keep his head above like an area where you you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't get a shot low. And it's just he

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<v Speaker 2>just looked a little distraught. And they love.

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<v Speaker 1>That look, you know, Oh yeah, it look good.

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<v Speaker 2>And out of all the pictures that I saw that

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<v Speaker 2>came out of that follow, I didn't see him like that.

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<v Speaker 2>And when he got out of the car in the

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<v Speaker 2>end and the savages that got him down there, he

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<v Speaker 2>had this huge smile on his face when he got

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<v Speaker 2>out of the car. Yeah, it was something different and

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<v Speaker 2>it was good, and you know, it was a little

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<v Speaker 2>nostalgic going on one of those follows, you know, running

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<v Speaker 2>across town, running red lights.

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<v Speaker 1>How crazy did that follow get?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, everybody in the chase except for two people that

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<v Speaker 2>I had no clue who they were skying. This old

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<v Speaker 2>Toyota pickup truck looks like he maybe moved out of

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<v Speaker 2>here from like Tennessee or something. I'm not sure, had

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<v Speaker 2>some blade Oakley's on and you know, maga hat backwards

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of weird, but he was kind of rookie ish.

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<v Speaker 2>But everybody else was pretty good. I mean, we were all,

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<v Speaker 2>like I said on the video, we were all joking

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<v Speaker 2>for a position. It really didn't need to be that

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<v Speaker 2>way because we're all just kind of it's a long follow,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're all just kind of getting stuff here and there,

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<v Speaker 2>and we don't need to make it dangerous for anybody. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and the block that was behind Jimmy kept, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to muscle us out a few times, which got

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<v Speaker 1>I did see some really nice cars on that follow.

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<v Speaker 1>I was surprised by the PAP cars. The Pap cars.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a really nice Mercedes on the follow. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And what didn't make sense to me is the photographer.

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<v Speaker 1>And again you can go and watch it on the

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<v Speaker 1>Paparazzi podcast YouTube, but the photographer like stopped his car

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<v Speaker 1>in the traffic, went into his trunk to get his

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<v Speaker 1>short lens. Ye who's sitting on a doorstep knowing it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a follow, and you've got your camera

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and he's an experienced photographer, as well. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that he would know what he was doing.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's driving like an eighty thousand dollars Mercedes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah he should have a button where like his short

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<v Speaker 1>It is, right, you know, yeah, that shit's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>It was definitely, you know, an old school follow. That

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<v Speaker 2>was I'm sure entertaining for everybody. Everybody kind of just

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<v Speaker 1>The old that's it. Those kind of you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>follow like that every day. Now not so much, like

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<v Speaker 1>only if there's a big story, you know, a news

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<v Speaker 1>related story. Right, you're not gonna get like who I

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<v Speaker 1>can't even think of anybody, maybe like is Affleck still

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<v Speaker 1>covered like that? No, not anymore? Right, No, he can

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<v Speaker 1>get six or seven guys on him.

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<v Speaker 2>I talked to another photographer that day and I said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I turned to him, and he's one of

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<v Speaker 2>those guys that just has to you know, has to

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<v Speaker 2>destroy your point and top you every single time you

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<v Speaker 2>talked to him. You know, if you say you made

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<v Speaker 2>five hundred on a picture he'll say he made five thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I went up to him and I said, I said, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it felt good. Haven't been one of those

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<v Speaker 2>in a while, huh. And he looks at me and goes,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you talking about? I'm like, what do you

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<v Speaker 2>What are you saying? He's like, yeah all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>like shut no, it doesn't like and he said he

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<v Speaker 2>said he does on affleck.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I spoke to the Mighty MOFO a few weeks ago

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<v Speaker 1>and we were talking a little bit about follows, and

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<v Speaker 1>he said he hasn't been on one where there was

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<v Speaker 1>another car in months, Like he'll spot a celebrity and

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be exclusive. He said. Sometimes he goes days without

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<v Speaker 1>seeing another photographer in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. And on that follow, I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how I looked from at the outside point of view,

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<v Speaker 2>but watching the MOFOL work, he looked like an elderly

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<v Speaker 2>driver out there on that follow. I mean, I can

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<v Speaker 2>tell that he hasn't been on one in a while.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm sure it was the same with me because

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<v Speaker 2>I started out first in the follow and at the

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Yeah, I'm just but I haven't got it in

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<v Speaker 1>me anymore, like I care, but I don't care to

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<v Speaker 1>the point where I'm going to be running red lights.

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<v Speaker 1>There's risk of an accident or just anything like that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, especially when you're on a day rate and

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting paid the same regardless.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, definitely makes a little bit of a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of patience, a little bit of skill to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, now look at the light and kind of

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<v Speaker 2>scan the light before you decide to pop the light

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<v Speaker 2>and make sure that there's no cameras, there's no one's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna you know, flash up your car stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Yeah, that could ruin your day for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>To get for everybody living outside of the US, the

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<v Speaker 1>traffic lights here when they're about to change to red,

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<v Speaker 1>there's actually a countdown for the people crossing the road

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<v Speaker 1>so you can see, you know, nineteen eighteen, seventeen five

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<v Speaker 1>four three two, oh fuck, speed up, speed up. You

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<v Speaker 1>know you've got another couple of seconds as it hits

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<v Speaker 1>one to get through. So it is nice having that countdown.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they've got that in the UK or through Europe.

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<v Speaker 1>Really yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So he's back on Tuesday, and we'll see how

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<v Speaker 2>that goes. But you know, short lived story.

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<v Speaker 1>It was good though, you know, it did give a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people a lot of work day rates came

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<v Speaker 1>in for quite a few people on that story, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you included so that, you know, nice to get you

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<v Speaker 1>back working for that outlet.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they're still going because, I mean, he's back

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<v Speaker 2>on Tuesday. So tomorrow's Tuesday, and they've they've put people

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<v Speaker 2>back on it. Oh, I bet, But I just don't

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<v Speaker 2>really get it really because he doesn't. I mean, his

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<v Speaker 2>routine is he doesn't do anything until you know, noon,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he drives the studio and then that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, not too exciting, but yeah, all pays the same

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<v Speaker 1>whether he does something or not.

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<v Speaker 2>The MOFO did get backed into though, in front of

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<v Speaker 2>me really while we were up on that job, sitting

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<v Speaker 2>on Marmot. Yeah, one of the neighbors backed out of

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<v Speaker 2>their driveway.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, ship.

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<v Speaker 2>He spots plenty of space too, and you know a

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<v Speaker 2>little and this guy just comes out and he smashes

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<v Speaker 2>right into the side.

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<v Speaker 1>Of Oh god.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's funny because when you look on the when

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<v Speaker 2>you look on the video and you see more car

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<v Speaker 2>he's in obviously in the Chevy or whatever it is. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you can see damage to the side of his car,

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<v Speaker 2>which is which is kind of a symbol for a pap.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of those savages out there, they have damage

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<v Speaker 2>to their car from getting in car chases and just

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<v Speaker 2>being shitty drivers. Yeah, so that's not that's not any

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<v Speaker 2>that's not anything on him for doing anything wrong. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just damage that was caused earlier that morning by some

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<v Speaker 2>dumb ass Tesla driver backing into his car.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I've got a question for you. Yeah, have you

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<v Speaker 1>ever gotten an accident on the job your fault or

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<v Speaker 1>not your fault? I have not really really. My first

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<v Speaker 1>year for the agency, I was driving a Satin View

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember those cars? I do, And I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was a silver one and it had the turning

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<v Speaker 1>circle of a fucking double decker bus. Just just awful

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<v Speaker 1>and was on the follow. Was on a Paris Hilton

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<v Speaker 1>follow with from Kings. We were leaving fred Seagull so

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<v Speaker 1>we were going up is it Crescent Heights and Melrose. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we just shot Paris. A bunch of us old school

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<v Speaker 1>la So like twenty cars were on this follow. We

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<v Speaker 1>shot Paris at fred Siegarll and she's on her way

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<v Speaker 1>back towards her house, and then I think she she

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<v Speaker 1>turned around and started going back down the other way.

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<v Speaker 1>And Schwafts on the next tell to me, do a

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<v Speaker 1>U turn, do a U turn, Jedi, do a YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>biby do U tuh. I'm like, I don't really have

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<v Speaker 1>room to do it. He's like, bibe, do it, fucking

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Do it? Like ship wheeled around to do

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<v Speaker 1>the U turn and bam, another path went straight into me,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was it was completely my fault for doing

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<v Speaker 1>the U turn, like crossing the double yellows and doing

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<v Speaker 1>the U turn. And then I hear, I didn't tell

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<v Speaker 1>you to do that. Don't tell anybody I told you

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<v Speaker 1>to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty funny because you were a brand new.

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<v Speaker 1>I was brand new, and I had to pay out

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<v Speaker 1>of pocket, oh my money for repairs of the car.

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<v Speaker 1>And I wasn't making very much money in my first year,

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<v Speaker 1>although you know I was on it was basically an internship,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was being paid less than peanuts and I

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<v Speaker 1>had to spend a lot of money on that repair bill.

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<v Speaker 1>And Schwapp, who was making a fuck ton of money,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't help the rookie out.

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<v Speaker 2>And the agency you were working for probably was making

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<v Speaker 2>a ship ton of money too, and they probably should

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<v Speaker 2>have just taken care of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. But yeah, I'm sure that wasn't I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't Phs cool because he would have he would

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<v Speaker 1>have probably looked after me. I had imagine it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was probably down to b lot. But other accidents

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<v Speaker 1>I have been in, like a bunch of accidents on

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<v Speaker 1>the job in LA. That was the That was the

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<v Speaker 1>only one that was my full. The others were just

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<v Speaker 1>like I'd been backed into a bunch of times, like

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<v Speaker 1>rear ended. But that's like not on follows not working.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just driving, like trawling around or you know, between

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<v Speaker 1>jobs or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeahs bumped into things like that, you know, bushes, scratches,

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of thing. But I've never actually been hit

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<v Speaker 2>or hit anybody in Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I got I got rear ended so badly, probably

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<v Speaker 1>like seven or eight years ago. And you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>actually I was out of work for a month. I

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<v Speaker 1>like tore tendons in my ankle and something else in

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<v Speaker 1>my leg, and I fucked my backup as well, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was off work for like three months.

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<v Speaker 2>What was that on?

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't on the follow I was. I was driving

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<v Speaker 1>from somewhere to somewhere. I was on Sunset by Sunset Plaza,

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<v Speaker 1>and there were there were people waiting to cross the

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<v Speaker 1>street like you know, zebra crossing, and I slowed down

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<v Speaker 1>and let them go. Looked in my rearview mirror and

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<v Speaker 1>the car behind me wasn't slowing down and just fucking

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<v Speaker 1>went straight in the back of me at forty miles

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<v Speaker 1>an hour. Wow, Yeah, sent me flying down the street.

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<v Speaker 1>So La is a scary place for driving because there

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot of bad drivers.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, now we have robots.

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<v Speaker 1>Well exactly, it's much safer now because the people driving

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<v Speaker 1>the cars aren't people.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and the news stations, I almost want to follow

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<v Speaker 2>the robots around. I'm probably gonna get ideas right here,

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<v Speaker 2>but I almost want to follow the robots around because

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<v Speaker 2>people are making cash off of videos of the robots

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<v Speaker 2>doing things wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Really Yeah, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw a news report of a guy who's like

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<v Speaker 2>in a in like a like a wheelchair, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>a robot kept like bumping into them.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, what?

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<v Speaker 2>And then there was there was another video of someone

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<v Speaker 2>where there was a robot crossing in front of a

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<v Speaker 2>fire truck that was on its way to a call

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<v Speaker 2>and they had to sit and wait for the robot

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<v Speaker 2>to cross in front of it. These are delivery robots,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way. Yeah, so I did see the other day.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we talked about waymos, and honestly, this is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a segment that we're going to keep

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<v Speaker 2>going with here because you know, I see these waymos

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<v Speaker 2>and there's so many of them now, Jedi. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>even since the last time we talked to them, we

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<v Speaker 2>talked about them, it seems like there's twice as many.

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<v Speaker 2>I found this move interesting, okay, you know the move

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<v Speaker 2>where you're pulling up to a signal and I do

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<v Speaker 2>this now because I drive an electric car and electric

425
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<v Speaker 2>cars always have the advantage. Now or something else. You're

426
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<v Speaker 2>pulling up to a light and there's the right turn

427
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<v Speaker 2>that's open, but you pull up into the right turn,

428
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<v Speaker 2>but you sit there and wait and then when the

429
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<v Speaker 2>signal goes, you go and you cut off all the cars, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

431
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<v Speaker 2>I saw Waimo do this the other day. Ah, so

432
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<v Speaker 2>he the signals read, he pulls all the way over

433
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<v Speaker 2>to the right. I thought he was going to make

434
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<v Speaker 2>the right turn, you know. Yeah, sat there for a

435
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<v Speaker 2>while and I'm like, oh my god, this thing's actually

436
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<v Speaker 2>going to make the move. And I watched him. I

437
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<v Speaker 2>should have filmed it, but I watched him make the move.

438
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<v Speaker 2>I thought that would have only been a human move, absolutely,

439
00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:25.200
<v Speaker 2>because it's you know, it's an emotional move, you know,

440
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<v Speaker 2>it's I want to get in front of you move.

441
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<v Speaker 2>I'm late for somewhere. I think I'm better than you,

442
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<v Speaker 2>I think i'm faster than you. I'm going to get

443
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<v Speaker 2>in front of you, right, yeah, So how is the

444
00:22:35.839 --> 00:22:40.720
<v Speaker 2>robot making that decision? They are old wing, they are

445
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<v Speaker 2>everybody and their mother came out in favor of Jimmy Kimmel.

446
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<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, I love people.

447
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<v Speaker 2>I mean the last thing I heard was like Tom Hanks,

448
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<v Speaker 2>Jennifer Aniston, Martha Stewart, something like that. It almost seemed

449
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<v Speaker 2>like the entirety of Hollywood came out for Jimmy Kimmel

450
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<v Speaker 2>in this sense, and a lot of people got canceled, right,

451
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't see it any different than these

452
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<v Speaker 2>teachers that were showing footage or talking shit and then

453
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<v Speaker 2>they got fired, or you know somebody else that was

454
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<v Speaker 2>in a job that said something wrong and then they

455
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<v Speaker 2>were fired. I don't see it any as any different.

456
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<v Speaker 2>What do you think about all these celebrities obviously not

457
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<v Speaker 2>saying anything for Charlie Kirk, but also you know, come out.

458
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<v Speaker 1>I mean a lot did come out and talk about Charlie.

459
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<v Speaker 1>I think Chris Pratt came out and a lot of

460
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<v Speaker 1>them paid their respects to Charlie. You know, a lot

461
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<v Speaker 1>of them did, but and obviously a lot of them didn't.

462
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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, you've got you've got the guy who

463
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<v Speaker 2>dies of old age, you know, he dies five years old,

464
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<v Speaker 2>and he dies, and you have to make your tribute to,

465
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<v Speaker 2>you know, from from either side or whatever. I mean,

466
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<v Speaker 2>Chris Pratt obviously.

467
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<v Speaker 1>Middle Republica, all of the Republican non Republican celebrities basically

468
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<v Speaker 1>came out and paid their respects to Charlie, and all

469
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<v Speaker 1>the others didn't.

470
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. And I don't understand why that, you know,

471
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<v Speaker 2>because this is obviously something that's different than just you know,

472
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<v Speaker 2>Gene Hackman dying or something like that. You know, yeah,

473
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<v Speaker 2>it's not the same. It's a different thing. Like in

474
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<v Speaker 2>an assassination. You would think that everybody just kind of

475
00:24:19.440 --> 00:24:21.839
<v Speaker 2>has to come out to say, hey, this is wrong, right.

476
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<v Speaker 1>I think so, regardless of whether they lean to the

477
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<v Speaker 1>left or lean to the right. Yeah, it's a young

478
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<v Speaker 1>man dying. Yeah, there's way too early.

479
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's there's there is a line that you need

480
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<v Speaker 2>to eventually cross that would cause everybody to kind of

481
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<v Speaker 2>unite in this whole thing. But what I also found

482
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<v Speaker 2>interesting was, you know, his I didn't watch his memorial.

483
00:24:43.920 --> 00:24:47.759
<v Speaker 2>I just watched highlights from the memorial. But I've heard

484
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<v Speaker 2>interviews from people, and I've heard a lot of stuff

485
00:24:49.680 --> 00:24:53.400
<v Speaker 2>about it since then. And there was what over two

486
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<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand people that came to this thing. Yeah, and

487
00:24:58.480 --> 00:25:01.440
<v Speaker 2>we're talking all the heads of states at this point, right,

488
00:25:01.480 --> 00:25:04.799
<v Speaker 2>because everybody's right wing and Republican and stuff like that. Whatever.

489
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<v Speaker 2>Not one person from either Hollywood or the left or

490
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<v Speaker 2>the Hollywood left or anything at the memorial. Did you

491
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<v Speaker 2>see anything?

492
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<v Speaker 1>I didn't watch it, but I mean, did you hear

493
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<v Speaker 1>anything about it? Like? No, To be honest, I've been

494
00:25:23.519 --> 00:25:25.759
<v Speaker 1>so busy the last couple of days, I've not even

495
00:25:25.799 --> 00:25:26.880
<v Speaker 1>been on the websites.

496
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<v Speaker 2>Well, We're going to get into that in the second

497
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<v Speaker 2>half here, so well, So what I'm saying is, you know,

498
00:25:33.359 --> 00:25:37.000
<v Speaker 2>this was obviously a big deal. It's an assassination it's

499
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<v Speaker 2>an assassination of an innocent person, respectively, right, Yeah, and

500
00:25:44.119 --> 00:25:50.440
<v Speaker 2>not one, like, not one person from Hollywood left or

501
00:25:51.240 --> 00:25:55.920
<v Speaker 2>influential left could just show up to this memorial and

502
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<v Speaker 2>just show some support, or maybe like five or six

503
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<v Speaker 2>of them kind of get together and say, hey, you

504
00:26:02.240 --> 00:26:05.279
<v Speaker 2>know what, we should show up to this thing just

505
00:26:05.400 --> 00:26:08.559
<v Speaker 2>to show a little bit of unity somewhere because of

506
00:26:08.680 --> 00:26:12.640
<v Speaker 2>this act can't happen again, Like it shouldn't be happening, you.

507
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<v Speaker 1>Know, Oh, absolutely, Yeah, And.

508
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<v Speaker 2>I just thought that was really disappointing, you know, like

509
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<v Speaker 2>of all of Hollywood. You know, we're talking hundreds and

510
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<v Speaker 2>hundreds of people, and you saw the people that came

511
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<v Speaker 2>out in favor of Jimmy and his whole show. Not

512
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<v Speaker 2>one of those people. And I don't care about messages

513
00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:29.839
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. This is the memorial two hundred something thousand

514
00:26:29.839 --> 00:26:35.839
<v Speaker 2>people televised. Nobody, not one person. Yeah, that kind of

515
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<v Speaker 2>worries me, you know, it worries me that the division,

516
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<v Speaker 2>especially in Hollywood is like that. You know.

517
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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, it's not just Hollywood, is It's it's.

518
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<v Speaker 1>All over the country and the world.

519
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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be

520
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<v Speaker 2>right back with Jedi's journeys.

521
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<v Speaker 1>So Part two takes us the Delaware, Delaware home. Delaware

522
00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:12.519
<v Speaker 1>is that Wilmington, Delaware, the home of former President Joseph Biden.

523
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<v Speaker 3>It starts on a Friday afternoon when nothing happens apart

524
00:27:19.519 --> 00:27:24.319
<v Speaker 3>from me flying into town. It takes us to Saturday

525
00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:31.160
<v Speaker 3>when Joe Biden attends a Saturday evening church service.

526
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<v Speaker 1>Five pm. To be exact, Jedi shows up at four pm,

527
00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:40.759
<v Speaker 1>nice and early to do a rekie. Yeah. So I

528
00:27:40.799 --> 00:27:47.920
<v Speaker 1>am assigned to try and photograph Joe Biden after some

529
00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:50.720
<v Speaker 1>pictures or some video came out of the week prior

530
00:27:51.519 --> 00:27:55.079
<v Speaker 1>with him with a big old scar on his forehead.

531
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<v Speaker 1>So I got the task of going down to Delaware.

532
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<v Speaker 1>And I know from working Joe in previous places that

533
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<v Speaker 1>he likes to attend a Saturday early evening church service,

534
00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:13.640
<v Speaker 1>and this one was It was a five pm service.

535
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<v Speaker 1>I got there at four to do the full WRECKI

536
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<v Speaker 1>and with president's ex presidents, anyone that has secret service,

537
00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:27.440
<v Speaker 1>you make yourself very aware to the secret service. You

538
00:28:27.559 --> 00:28:30.160
<v Speaker 1>don't want to be putting your hand in a bag

539
00:28:31.279 --> 00:28:33.960
<v Speaker 1>to get your camera and then thinking you're reaching in

540
00:28:34.039 --> 00:28:36.759
<v Speaker 1>for a firearm and you get your head blown.

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<v Speaker 2>Off, especially.

542
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<v Speaker 1>Especially these days. So I said, I got there nice

543
00:28:42.039 --> 00:28:45.960
<v Speaker 1>and early. About about four point thirty, the Service rocked

544
00:28:46.039 --> 00:28:49.480
<v Speaker 1>up to you know, do their wreki on the place

545
00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:53.240
<v Speaker 1>as well. I lifted my camera up, gave them a

546
00:28:53.240 --> 00:28:57.799
<v Speaker 1>big wave, you know, pointed to my camera and just

547
00:28:57.839 --> 00:29:01.440
<v Speaker 1>got the nod of acknowledgment. They knew, they knew who

548
00:29:01.480 --> 00:29:05.160
<v Speaker 1>I was. Five o'clock rolled round and there was no

549
00:29:05.240 --> 00:29:08.799
<v Speaker 1>sign of Biden, so I was a little worried. But

550
00:29:09.000 --> 00:29:12.079
<v Speaker 1>as his service were already there, you know, I kind

551
00:29:12.119 --> 00:29:16.119
<v Speaker 1>of figured he was still coming. So at five past

552
00:29:16.160 --> 00:29:19.039
<v Speaker 1>five he rolled up and he was met by the

553
00:29:19.079 --> 00:29:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Secret Service, and he was driven obviously by the Secret

554
00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:28.519
<v Speaker 1>Service too. It was a two car entourage, so Biden

555
00:29:28.599 --> 00:29:31.039
<v Speaker 1>was in the front car, more Service were in the

556
00:29:31.039 --> 00:29:33.519
<v Speaker 1>second car, and as he was met, it would have

557
00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:35.240
<v Speaker 1>been you know, it's supposed to be a nice walk

558
00:29:35.279 --> 00:29:38.640
<v Speaker 1>to the church through the gravestones, and the frame I

559
00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:45.240
<v Speaker 1>wanted was Biden alone surrounded by gravestones. Great frame. Anam

560
00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:48.559
<v Speaker 1>Canum actually got it like a few months back after

561
00:29:48.680 --> 00:29:52.880
<v Speaker 1>the cancer diagnosis, so that was the frame I wanted.

562
00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:55.440
<v Speaker 1>But he was met by more Secret Service guys there

563
00:29:55.880 --> 00:29:58.359
<v Speaker 1>who walked right next to him, kind of blocking my

564
00:29:58.519 --> 00:30:01.240
<v Speaker 1>frame the whole way. I just got like a crappy

565
00:30:01.319 --> 00:30:05.119
<v Speaker 1>side view of his face. But I figured, hey, you

566
00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:08.160
<v Speaker 1>know what, at least i'll get it when he comes out,

567
00:30:08.200 --> 00:30:10.480
<v Speaker 1>because there's no way they're going to try and block

568
00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:16.000
<v Speaker 1>my shot again. So he turned up five minutes late

569
00:30:16.039 --> 00:30:20.160
<v Speaker 1>for service and left fifteen minutes early before the end

570
00:30:20.200 --> 00:30:24.319
<v Speaker 1>of it out of a side door. I still saw

571
00:30:24.400 --> 00:30:26.799
<v Speaker 1>them leaving, but he was blocked by the same Secret

572
00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Service guy the whole way. But when they turned to

573
00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:34.079
<v Speaker 1>get back to the cars, I had it down the

574
00:30:34.079 --> 00:30:37.160
<v Speaker 1>barrel full length. So it was nice. I still got something,

575
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:41.160
<v Speaker 1>but it wasn't wasn't the frame I wanted, and you know,

576
00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:44.039
<v Speaker 1>the client was happy, but they still wanted him out

577
00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:47.000
<v Speaker 1>and about. They didn't just want him at church. They

578
00:30:47.000 --> 00:30:50.079
<v Speaker 1>want to see what Joe gets up to. So that

579
00:30:50.160 --> 00:30:52.519
<v Speaker 1>was on the Saturday. So I went back on the Sunday,

580
00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:55.240
<v Speaker 1>and I think it was about ten o'clock in the morning.

581
00:30:56.279 --> 00:30:59.599
<v Speaker 1>The same two cars came out, so actually I did

582
00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:03.039
<v Speaker 1>get on follow and this was discrete as well. It wasn't.

583
00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:06.319
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't trying to be too discrete because, like I say,

584
00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:09.720
<v Speaker 1>with the Secret Service and presidents. You want them to

585
00:31:09.720 --> 00:31:12.160
<v Speaker 1>know you're there and that you're not a threat. So

586
00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:15.279
<v Speaker 1>I followed the car for like thirty minutes and it

587
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:19.279
<v Speaker 1>went It went to a spin class. So I'm like,

588
00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:22.400
<v Speaker 1>there's no way this is going to be Joe, and

589
00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:25.160
<v Speaker 1>it was. It was Jill. Jill got out and it

590
00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:29.039
<v Speaker 1>was actually it was a really really crappy day, pouring

591
00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:33.200
<v Speaker 1>with rain, just miserable, so there were no frames going in.

592
00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:38.279
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, I was still kind of discreete and

593
00:31:38.759 --> 00:31:40.880
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't sure whether they had seen me or not.

594
00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:44.039
<v Speaker 1>It turns out they hadn't seen me. So I photographed

595
00:31:44.079 --> 00:31:48.279
<v Speaker 1>Jill Biden leaving, leaving her spin class, and I followed

596
00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:52.480
<v Speaker 1>it back to the house. And by then the company

597
00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:55.319
<v Speaker 1>the paper I was on for wanted the pictures over,

598
00:31:55.920 --> 00:31:58.519
<v Speaker 1>so they'd already had the church pictures which they held

599
00:31:58.559 --> 00:32:01.039
<v Speaker 1>onto from the day before, and they added in the

600
00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:04.880
<v Speaker 1>Jill Biden set to the church set, and they put

601
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:07.839
<v Speaker 1>it up maybe an hour after I shot it, so

602
00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:10.799
<v Speaker 1>then I knew that they were aware that I was

603
00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:13.920
<v Speaker 1>actually sitting on the house and working the house. In

604
00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:17.519
<v Speaker 1>about three o'clock, the two cars came out again, but

605
00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:21.079
<v Speaker 1>this time a third car came out with them, and

606
00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:22.960
<v Speaker 1>the third car parked right in front of me and

607
00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:28.200
<v Speaker 1>blocked me from leaving. Wow, a light had changed and

608
00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:30.799
<v Speaker 1>the third car left, so I caught up with the cars,

609
00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:34.519
<v Speaker 1>and then another car showed up and blocked me from

610
00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:38.000
<v Speaker 1>going off of the freeway exit that they exited on.

611
00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:45.240
<v Speaker 1>I read that Joe Biden basically does everything in this

612
00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:49.119
<v Speaker 1>one town, like right by his house, so he's not

613
00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:52.640
<v Speaker 1>going to venture too far. So I've had, like I've

614
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:54.880
<v Speaker 1>been told, a store that he likes to shop at

615
00:32:55.680 --> 00:32:58.759
<v Speaker 1>and another place where he likes to get coffee. So

616
00:32:58.839 --> 00:33:01.759
<v Speaker 1>I checked both of those places out nothing, And as

617
00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:04.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm just driving around the town, I spot the two

618
00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:08.440
<v Speaker 1>Secret Service cars backed up in a grocery store parking lot.

619
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<v Speaker 1>So I drove around to the grocery store, parked at

620
00:33:11.359 --> 00:33:14.880
<v Speaker 1>the grocery store, got out of the car, had my

621
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:17.799
<v Speaker 1>camera ready, Like I said, I don't want them to

622
00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:20.480
<v Speaker 1>think I'm a threat. I could tell he was in

623
00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:22.720
<v Speaker 1>the grocery store just by the way the cars were parked.

624
00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:25.640
<v Speaker 1>Then the third car that blocked me earlier came back

625
00:33:25.640 --> 00:33:28.880
<v Speaker 1>into the parking lot and parked so close to my

626
00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:31.799
<v Speaker 1>car that there was no way I could get back

627
00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:35.039
<v Speaker 1>in my car to follow. If I wanted to follow,

628
00:33:36.319 --> 00:33:38.519
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't get in the car. Parked so close to

629
00:33:38.599 --> 00:33:42.880
<v Speaker 1>my door that not even like a piece of cardboard

630
00:33:42.920 --> 00:33:46.279
<v Speaker 1>could get into my car by way like ten to

631
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<v Speaker 1>fifteen minutes. And at this point I wasn't sure whether

632
00:33:48.920 --> 00:33:51.599
<v Speaker 1>it was Joe or Jill, or Joe and Jill or

633
00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:54.359
<v Speaker 1>Jill and Joe, But it turns out it was just

634
00:33:54.559 --> 00:33:56.839
<v Speaker 1>it was it was Biden. It was just Joe who

635
00:33:56.839 --> 00:33:59.400
<v Speaker 1>had gone to the grocery store to pick up a

636
00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:01.640
<v Speaker 1>couple of bits and pieces. He came out with his

637
00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:05.599
<v Speaker 1>grocery list of a bag and did his this kind

638
00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:08.960
<v Speaker 1>of shuffle, spoke to some boy scouts, posed for some

639
00:34:09.039 --> 00:34:11.880
<v Speaker 1>pictures with them, got back in the car, and went

640
00:34:11.920 --> 00:34:14.280
<v Speaker 1>back on his merry way, and that was the end

641
00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:17.840
<v Speaker 1>of my assignment. It was. It was a nice one.

642
00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:22.000
<v Speaker 1>It's always an absolute pleasure to shoot anybody that has

643
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:26.599
<v Speaker 1>been or is a president, love them or hate them.

644
00:34:26.840 --> 00:34:31.000
<v Speaker 1>It's it's still very cool to be able to get

645
00:34:31.000 --> 00:34:34.679
<v Speaker 1>that close and shoot history. I guess even if I

646
00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:41.639
<v Speaker 1>just fucking grocery shopping, it's still like iconic. And yes,

647
00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:43.800
<v Speaker 1>that was a lot of fun. I really enjoyed that one.

648
00:34:44.559 --> 00:34:46.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I I mean I come from a time

649
00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:51.960
<v Speaker 2>where obviously people were in favor or posed to whatever

650
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:54.599
<v Speaker 2>president and their policies and stuff like that. But as

651
00:34:54.639 --> 00:34:58.159
<v Speaker 2>a kid and growing into you know, an adult probably

652
00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:03.320
<v Speaker 2>and it's probably twenties, maybe my thirties, you still were

653
00:35:03.360 --> 00:35:09.039
<v Speaker 2>in awe or respected or had you know, respect for

654
00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:13.559
<v Speaker 2>the sitting president no matter who. Yeah, like policies weren't

655
00:35:13.559 --> 00:35:17.119
<v Speaker 2>that big of a deal. So seeing a Joe Biden

656
00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:19.360
<v Speaker 2>on the street or something like that, obviously I would

657
00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:22.719
<v Speaker 2>still feel even though I totally disagreed with everything he

658
00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:28.320
<v Speaker 2>did pretty much throughout his presidency, I would still think

659
00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:33.920
<v Speaker 2>of the guy as you know, respectful and live and presidential.

660
00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:39.519
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know where that's gone. So the security

661
00:35:39.559 --> 00:35:43.199
<v Speaker 2>precautions are crazy now. We're at a point now where

662
00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:48.320
<v Speaker 2>there's literally assassinations. So I think about it when I'm

663
00:35:48.320 --> 00:35:50.400
<v Speaker 2>on the job. Obviously you're thinking about it when you're

664
00:35:50.440 --> 00:35:53.320
<v Speaker 2>on the job, especially when you're around secret Service making

665
00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:56.880
<v Speaker 2>yourself known. You know, normally we wouldn't have to do that,

666
00:35:56.960 --> 00:35:58.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, five ten years ago, we would just sit

667
00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:01.480
<v Speaker 2>in our cars, wait for the opportunity and just pop

668
00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:02.960
<v Speaker 2>out and get some shuts, right.

669
00:36:03.239 --> 00:36:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh, crack crack a window, you know, leaving up

670
00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:09.599
<v Speaker 1>room to get you know, a clean frame, not through

671
00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:14.400
<v Speaker 1>it tin and just just bosh away unbenownst to anybody.

672
00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:17.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I mean even today I was on just

673
00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:20.599
<v Speaker 2>a low budget movie set, just checking out what was

674
00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:23.760
<v Speaker 2>going on on the set, and you know, the way

675
00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:27.280
<v Speaker 2>I was kind of creeping around in my car made

676
00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:30.039
<v Speaker 2>me feel like, you know, if there's someone looking out

677
00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:32.199
<v Speaker 2>their window right now, or if there's a guy walking

678
00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:35.159
<v Speaker 2>down the street, you know, everybody's kind of hyper sensitive,

679
00:36:35.239 --> 00:36:37.719
<v Speaker 2>hyper alert on what's going on around. They're gonna look

680
00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:39.639
<v Speaker 2>at what They're gonna be like, what's this guy doing here?

681
00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:42.079
<v Speaker 2>What's this guy doing? Or when I'm walking around with

682
00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:44.639
<v Speaker 2>my Trader Joe's bag with my camera in it, you know,

683
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:48.360
<v Speaker 2>in that bag, why is he on this corner? Why

684
00:36:48.400 --> 00:36:50.199
<v Speaker 2>is he standing there staring across the street.

685
00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:53.280
<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah, absolutely, Oh it is kind.

686
00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:55.079
<v Speaker 2>Of tough for us. And I mean these days, you know,

687
00:36:55.400 --> 00:36:57.599
<v Speaker 2>like I go to reach or you go to reach

688
00:36:57.639 --> 00:37:03.199
<v Speaker 2>into your bag. Who knows who's around armed and thinking

689
00:37:03.239 --> 00:37:05.239
<v Speaker 2>that we're going to do something weird, which we are,

690
00:37:05.400 --> 00:37:09.280
<v Speaker 2>like we're literally about to shoot somebody. Yeah, we're not

691
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:11.880
<v Speaker 2>shooting them to kill them. We're just shooting them with

692
00:37:11.920 --> 00:37:15.360
<v Speaker 2>a game. But it's the same move, you know, absolutely, yeah,

693
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:17.400
<v Speaker 2>move to grab a gun or to grab a camera,

694
00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:18.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, yeah.

695
00:37:18.679 --> 00:37:22.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean that this leads me nicely into the next story.

696
00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:29.480
<v Speaker 1>I was given the task of trying to photograph Galainne

697
00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:35.079
<v Speaker 1>Is laying Julane Maxwell. You know, I was the last person.

698
00:37:35.119 --> 00:37:38.719
<v Speaker 1>I was the first person to photographer in Tallahassee in prison.

699
00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:43.000
<v Speaker 1>I was the last person to photographer in Tallahassee in prison.

700
00:37:43.760 --> 00:37:47.559
<v Speaker 1>And when she was moved to the new facility in

701
00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:51.280
<v Speaker 1>Brian Texas, I had four different phone calls for me

702
00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:53.119
<v Speaker 1>to go and get her there, but I was on

703
00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:57.559
<v Speaker 1>another job in Nantucket. I know, she's like your Sweeney

704
00:37:57.639 --> 00:38:02.480
<v Speaker 1>cell mate exactly. I know of five six photographers that

705
00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:06.480
<v Speaker 1>have had gone down to Brian Texas when she was

706
00:38:06.519 --> 00:38:12.599
<v Speaker 1>first incarcerated there, and you know, none of them were

707
00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:15.280
<v Speaker 1>lucky enough to get a thing, you know. I know

708
00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:19.000
<v Speaker 1>that when she was first put in there. The guys,

709
00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:22.519
<v Speaker 1>my friends that went to do it are discrete photographers

710
00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:25.000
<v Speaker 1>that you know, on any day of the week can

711
00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:28.639
<v Speaker 1>get their job done. But they arrived to Byron, Texas

712
00:38:28.719 --> 00:38:33.079
<v Speaker 1>and there were locals there standing outside their cars with

713
00:38:33.199 --> 00:38:37.280
<v Speaker 1>their cameras out. Not very discreet and you're probably not

714
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:44.159
<v Speaker 1>going to get a high profile inmate when security guards

715
00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:47.480
<v Speaker 1>and everybody know you're there. And this is the same

716
00:38:47.559 --> 00:38:52.920
<v Speaker 1>prison that Elizabeth Holmes and Jen Shah are in. Nate

717
00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:55.280
<v Speaker 1>Dogg and myself did a podcast from there a while

718
00:38:55.320 --> 00:38:58.840
<v Speaker 1>ago when it was homes his fiftieth birthday, and dog

719
00:38:58.880 --> 00:39:02.519
<v Speaker 1>and I did get them. But since that time, they've

720
00:39:02.639 --> 00:39:07.239
<v Speaker 1>rapped the prison. The prison has been wrapped. It was

721
00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:10.000
<v Speaker 1>just chain link fence before, chain mil fence, whatever you

722
00:39:10.079 --> 00:39:15.119
<v Speaker 1>guys call it, and it is now completely wrapped since

723
00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:20.159
<v Speaker 1>since Maxwell's got in there, which didn't make the task

724
00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:25.440
<v Speaker 1>of photographing her very easy. Now I'm not going to

725
00:39:25.480 --> 00:39:29.800
<v Speaker 1>get into any specifics or give anybody any clues as

726
00:39:29.840 --> 00:39:32.480
<v Speaker 1>to how I did it. I had to get inventive,

727
00:39:33.239 --> 00:39:36.920
<v Speaker 1>but I did. I did get her. It's funny she

728
00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:41.039
<v Speaker 1>walks around the prison, and this isn't giving up information

729
00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:44.239
<v Speaker 1>because people walk around the prison. Inmates in the prison

730
00:39:44.280 --> 00:39:46.639
<v Speaker 1>walk around the prison with umbrellas because it's very hot

731
00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:50.079
<v Speaker 1>in Texas and very sunny. You know, it was hitting

732
00:39:50.199 --> 00:39:53.440
<v Speaker 1>ninety two degrees when I was there last week. So

733
00:39:53.559 --> 00:39:55.280
<v Speaker 1>it makes sense to walk around with an umbrella.

734
00:39:55.920 --> 00:39:59.960
<v Speaker 2>But if you're just a person shopping in a shopping mall,

735
00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:02.880
<v Speaker 2>exactly an inmate, you know, suffer fucking get a burn.

736
00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:03.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't care.

737
00:40:03.880 --> 00:40:07.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The first time I spotted Maxwell, on one of

738
00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:10.360
<v Speaker 1>the days, she was walking around with an umbrella completely

739
00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:15.119
<v Speaker 1>covering her face, her head. You couldn't see anything, but

740
00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:19.760
<v Speaker 1>I know the way she walks, I know, I basically

741
00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:23.760
<v Speaker 1>know her mannerisms, so I knew it was her without

742
00:40:23.840 --> 00:40:27.760
<v Speaker 1>seeing her face. So I figured, you know, I got down,

743
00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:30.679
<v Speaker 1>I got her routine down, I got the timings down

744
00:40:31.559 --> 00:40:35.360
<v Speaker 1>of when she moved around. I knew that. I just

745
00:40:35.719 --> 00:40:38.639
<v Speaker 1>at some point, she's going to slip up because she

746
00:40:38.679 --> 00:40:41.119
<v Speaker 1>doesn't know I'm there, The guards don't know I'm there.

747
00:40:41.239 --> 00:40:44.360
<v Speaker 1>Nobody knows I'm there. And at some point in time,

748
00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:48.239
<v Speaker 1>on one of the occasions that she's out during the day,

749
00:40:48.760 --> 00:40:51.440
<v Speaker 1>maybe she has a lapse in, you know, just a

750
00:40:51.559 --> 00:40:56.480
<v Speaker 1>mental lapse and holds the umbrella up high enough. So

751
00:40:56.519 --> 00:41:00.280
<v Speaker 1>I was there before sunrise. I was there, you know,

752
00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:05.000
<v Speaker 1>when it's still pitch black, and she came out and

753
00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:08.480
<v Speaker 1>the umbrella was still covering her face in pitch black,

754
00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:14.760
<v Speaker 1>So you know that she's being told by somebody in

755
00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:18.679
<v Speaker 1>the government keep your head down. She's not doing it

756
00:41:18.440 --> 00:41:22.920
<v Speaker 1>for no almost like I do not make eye contact

757
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:28.360
<v Speaker 1>with any other inmate, because Byron as well, it's it's

758
00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:32.519
<v Speaker 1>a super low security prison. The inmates in there are

759
00:41:33.360 --> 00:41:38.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's fraud, drugs, no.

760
00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:41.039
<v Speaker 2>And name some of the others that are in there

761
00:41:41.079 --> 00:41:42.239
<v Speaker 2>that people might not know.

762
00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:45.639
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, like I said, Jen Shah is in there

763
00:41:45.639 --> 00:41:48.199
<v Speaker 1>from Housewives of Real Salt Lake City. She was in

764
00:41:48.239 --> 00:41:51.760
<v Speaker 1>there for fraud. Elizabeth Holmes is in there for fraud

765
00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:57.119
<v Speaker 1>as well. You know the Farranos founder played by seyfried

766
00:41:57.440 --> 00:42:00.800
<v Speaker 1>In in the movie or the show or whatever. These

767
00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:03.960
<v Speaker 1>are low level crimes that didn't really hurt too many people,

768
00:42:04.039 --> 00:42:08.159
<v Speaker 1>not you know, Maxwell's a sex offender. You know, she

769
00:42:08.679 --> 00:42:14.039
<v Speaker 1>procured these women for Epstein. She is a registered sex offender.

770
00:42:14.480 --> 00:42:17.760
<v Speaker 1>And a lot of you know, the low level criminals

771
00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:21.480
<v Speaker 1>in there were upset when she was moved there. So

772
00:42:21.519 --> 00:42:24.480
<v Speaker 1>I think she's basically been told, you know, keep your

773
00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:27.800
<v Speaker 1>head down, cover yourself up, no eye contact with any inmates,

774
00:42:28.360 --> 00:42:31.000
<v Speaker 1>and possibly there's a chance that at some point you're

775
00:42:31.039 --> 00:42:33.079
<v Speaker 1>going to people are going to try and photograph you again,

776
00:42:33.599 --> 00:42:37.039
<v Speaker 1>so keep your head down and your umbrella down over

777
00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:41.760
<v Speaker 1>it basically. But what so the last day, the day

778
00:42:41.800 --> 00:42:44.440
<v Speaker 1>that I did actually get her, it was her last

779
00:42:44.679 --> 00:42:48.119
<v Speaker 1>movement of the day. Like I said, I've got I

780
00:42:48.159 --> 00:42:50.760
<v Speaker 1>know it like clockwork now, I know every time she's

781
00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:53.840
<v Speaker 1>coming out during the day, and it was the last

782
00:42:54.239 --> 00:42:56.920
<v Speaker 1>last movement of the day, not the last chance, because

783
00:42:56.920 --> 00:42:59.679
<v Speaker 1>I probably would have given it another day. But she

784
00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:03.440
<v Speaker 1>came out of her cell block and the umbrella was

785
00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:07.360
<v Speaker 1>just above the top of her head where I could

786
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:11.519
<v Speaker 1>see full face, and I'm, I'm, I'm, I just absolutely

787
00:43:12.239 --> 00:43:15.239
<v Speaker 1>blasted the crap out of her, completely blasted it. But

788
00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:18.400
<v Speaker 1>going back to the you know, assassin and the shooting,

789
00:43:19.559 --> 00:43:22.440
<v Speaker 1>if I was somebody that wanted to take her out,

790
00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:25.440
<v Speaker 1>I could have done it, you know. And that is

791
00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:30.159
<v Speaker 1>I think a huge security lapse on the prison, and

792
00:43:30.199 --> 00:43:35.199
<v Speaker 1>I do think heads will roll. It wouldn't surprise me

793
00:43:35.239 --> 00:43:37.960
<v Speaker 1>if Maxwell gets moved again. She's sure as shit will

794
00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:41.039
<v Speaker 1>not be moving throughout the prison the same way that

795
00:43:41.119 --> 00:43:46.280
<v Speaker 1>she was when I was I was when I was

796
00:43:46.320 --> 00:43:49.679
<v Speaker 1>photographing her, and I think it is going to be

797
00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:53.639
<v Speaker 1>a hell of a mission. But anybody else is ever

798
00:43:53.840 --> 00:43:56.320
<v Speaker 1>tasked with trying to photograph her in that prison to

799
00:43:56.360 --> 00:43:58.960
<v Speaker 1>get it. I think there's going to be a huge

800
00:43:58.960 --> 00:44:04.679
<v Speaker 1>clamp down. Well, it is a huge fuck up on

801
00:44:04.760 --> 00:44:06.519
<v Speaker 1>the prisons part that I got up basically.

802
00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:09.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I've got a few thoughts on all this.

803
00:44:09.719 --> 00:44:12.960
<v Speaker 2>You know. Number one, on movie sets, I have to

804
00:44:12.960 --> 00:44:16.039
<v Speaker 2>deal with umbrellas, but I might have to deal with

805
00:44:16.079 --> 00:44:20.320
<v Speaker 2>them for a few minutes, you know, waiting for the

806
00:44:20.400 --> 00:44:23.519
<v Speaker 2>umbrella to tilt up, maybe after ten maybe an hour,

807
00:44:24.199 --> 00:44:26.440
<v Speaker 2>maybe two hours tops I might have to wait for

808
00:44:27.039 --> 00:44:30.639
<v Speaker 2>which is very very rare. It's very rare that someone

809
00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:33.559
<v Speaker 2>has to deal with an umbrella tilt after days.

810
00:44:34.119 --> 00:44:39.920
<v Speaker 1>So it was it was brutal just knowing that the

811
00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:42.639
<v Speaker 1>perfect clean shot was there.

812
00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:45.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's going to happen multiple.

813
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:50.239
<v Speaker 1>Times, multiple times over the number of days I was there,

814
00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:54.280
<v Speaker 1>just to see it presented to me time and time

815
00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:56.400
<v Speaker 1>again and not be able to get it.

816
00:44:56.639 --> 00:45:00.639
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, the king or queen of umbrellas is

817
00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:04.519
<v Speaker 2>Taylor Swift, right, and I have five or six of

818
00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:06.840
<v Speaker 2>them around her, So there's no way of getting anything

819
00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:11.079
<v Speaker 2>but to get the shot, you know, after you know,

820
00:45:11.400 --> 00:45:15.079
<v Speaker 2>hours or days or whatever of you know, I'm waiting

821
00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:17.039
<v Speaker 2>for the umbrella tilt and then once you get it,

822
00:45:17.079 --> 00:45:22.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's it's it's the greatest feeling. But at

823
00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:25.480
<v Speaker 2>the same time, we're supposed to live in a society

824
00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:29.360
<v Speaker 2>where a photographer can get a shot of somebody doing

825
00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:33.079
<v Speaker 2>something whatever after days of waiting and waiting, and you know,

826
00:45:33.199 --> 00:45:35.679
<v Speaker 2>of all the precautions they do of someone actually maybe

827
00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:38.519
<v Speaker 2>getting a photograph or maybe an inmate seeing you or

828
00:45:38.559 --> 00:45:43.280
<v Speaker 2>anything like that. Us going to the the thought process

829
00:45:43.360 --> 00:45:46.320
<v Speaker 2>of saying, you know, if I wanted to get a

830
00:45:46.360 --> 00:45:49.920
<v Speaker 2>shot off, I could have done that. That's the way

831
00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:54.920
<v Speaker 2>all securities, security teams and stuff. They obviously live that,

832
00:45:55.239 --> 00:45:58.960
<v Speaker 2>right They look around, they try and figure out where

833
00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:02.800
<v Speaker 2>someone could come from where to us, to me, to

834
00:46:02.920 --> 00:46:04.480
<v Speaker 2>you seems pretty easy.

835
00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:08.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, we'd be we'd be great high as for

836
00:46:08.880 --> 00:46:10.639
<v Speaker 1>these people's security teams.

837
00:46:11.079 --> 00:46:14.719
<v Speaker 2>So if anybody wants any consulting on, you know, any

838
00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:19.480
<v Speaker 2>security because obviously, you know these guys they're maybe ex Marines,

839
00:46:19.480 --> 00:46:24.960
<v Speaker 2>ex military whatever, you know, ex police, ex swats, whatever

840
00:46:25.000 --> 00:46:27.599
<v Speaker 2>they want to do. But we might have a little

841
00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:31.440
<v Speaker 2>different perspective, you know, being photographers and being as sneaky

842
00:46:31.440 --> 00:46:33.840
<v Speaker 2>as we are about getting photos and stuff like that,

843
00:46:33.840 --> 00:46:38.880
<v Speaker 2>because we always get the photos. It doesn't matter. And

844
00:46:38.920 --> 00:46:42.599
<v Speaker 2>in that sense, you know, if we were a threat,

845
00:46:43.159 --> 00:46:47.599
<v Speaker 2>we would get the shot. So maybe consider that when

846
00:46:47.800 --> 00:46:51.280
<v Speaker 2>you know you're considering your security for you know, your

847
00:46:51.360 --> 00:46:54.119
<v Speaker 2>Charlie Kirk situations and stuff like that. You know, we

848
00:46:54.199 --> 00:46:56.599
<v Speaker 2>might have had a different perspective. I maybe would have

849
00:46:56.679 --> 00:47:01.280
<v Speaker 2>looked at that roof, but you never know. Yeah, either way,

850
00:47:01.320 --> 00:47:06.960
<v Speaker 2>it was a great shot. We're talking legendary status, Jedi status.

851
00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:10.159
<v Speaker 2>But I mean, what are we well Jedi stuff? You

852
00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:13.559
<v Speaker 2>were talking about other photographers being good and skilled and

853
00:47:13.559 --> 00:47:15.480
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that. Well, there is skill and then there's

854
00:47:15.559 --> 00:47:16.199
<v Speaker 2>Jedi skill.

855
00:47:16.719 --> 00:47:22.599
<v Speaker 1>So I mean, yeah, it's it's still Yeah, let.

856
00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:26.280
<v Speaker 2>Me ask you this. If you know, if it's giving

857
00:47:26.280 --> 00:47:32.360
<v Speaker 2>it away, then don't answer. But was height? Did height

858
00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:34.440
<v Speaker 2>have anything to do with it? Because I mean we're

859
00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:39.039
<v Speaker 2>talking about an umbrella being able to tilt up right

860
00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:42.199
<v Speaker 2>if you're low. Obviously a low tilt is a tilt

861
00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:44.280
<v Speaker 2>and you might be able to get a quicker but

862
00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:47.320
<v Speaker 2>were you waiting for a higher tilt? You could either

863
00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:49.199
<v Speaker 2>say no comment or you know.

864
00:47:49.559 --> 00:47:51.599
<v Speaker 1>I mean the umbrella was just over her face. I

865
00:47:51.639 --> 00:47:54.480
<v Speaker 1>just needed the umbrella to be lifted up a little bit. Yeah, Okay,

866
00:47:54.800 --> 00:47:56.280
<v Speaker 1>that's that's all I was waiting for.

867
00:47:56.480 --> 00:47:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know the layout of the place. I

868
00:47:58.000 --> 00:47:59.760
<v Speaker 2>don't know if there's like a hillside or something where

869
00:47:59.760 --> 00:48:04.000
<v Speaker 2>you're it's flat. It's flat because there is a point

870
00:48:04.039 --> 00:48:07.400
<v Speaker 2>where if you're looking at an angle that's above the

871
00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:09.519
<v Speaker 2>tilt is never going to get there, you know.

872
00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:13.599
<v Speaker 1>No, exactly, Yeah, no, it was. It was flat, flat,

873
00:48:13.840 --> 00:48:19.199
<v Speaker 1>very very flat land like saying, just needed other inmates

874
00:48:19.199 --> 00:48:21.639
<v Speaker 1>were walking with your umbrella's flat behind that, you know,

875
00:48:21.760 --> 00:48:25.239
<v Speaker 1>shame her son. She was just covering her face with it,

876
00:48:25.320 --> 00:48:27.760
<v Speaker 1>and like I said, yeah, so.

877
00:48:27.719 --> 00:48:30.719
<v Speaker 2>She's using the umbrella to cover herself rather than just

878
00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:36.880
<v Speaker 2>the sun. Just one Yeah, yeah, well good.

879
00:48:36.760 --> 00:48:41.599
<v Speaker 1>Shot, dude, Thank you, thank you very much. It was fun.

880
00:48:41.639 --> 00:48:45.840
<v Speaker 1>It was fun. I enjoyed it since I couldn't get

881
00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:49.079
<v Speaker 1>there with all the other photographers at the beginning of

882
00:48:49.079 --> 00:48:52.800
<v Speaker 1>her incarceration that it was one that was on my

883
00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:57.280
<v Speaker 1>bucket list to go and have a goer to give

884
00:48:57.320 --> 00:48:57.800
<v Speaker 1>it a whirl.

885
00:48:58.239 --> 00:49:03.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you couldn't know those guys, right, Sorry, you

886
00:49:03.039 --> 00:49:05.960
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have been able to get it anyway with those guys.

887
00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:08.519
<v Speaker 1>No, but you know, I still wanted to be a

888
00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:13.159
<v Speaker 1>part of it. I had I had fomo when they

889
00:49:13.159 --> 00:49:17.599
<v Speaker 1>were all there together, So yeah, happy to take that

890
00:49:17.639 --> 00:49:21.039
<v Speaker 1>one off, and I certainly don't want to be going

891
00:49:21.079 --> 00:49:21.559
<v Speaker 1>back there ever.

892
00:49:21.639 --> 00:49:26.880
<v Speaker 2>Again, Yeah, it doesn't sound like fun.

893
00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:32.920
<v Speaker 1>No, I'd imagine the security there probably have a picture

894
00:49:32.920 --> 00:49:35.599
<v Speaker 1>of me now they have my name, and I do

895
00:49:35.679 --> 00:49:41.800
<v Speaker 1>not think I will be welcome in the area.

896
00:49:39.880 --> 00:49:44.719
<v Speaker 2>Well until they bring the next high profile inmate there

897
00:49:44.760 --> 00:49:46.159
<v Speaker 2>to join the rest of them in.

898
00:49:46.159 --> 00:49:51.159
<v Speaker 1>Their club fed Yeah, exactly. Oh they what else do

899
00:49:51.199 --> 00:49:55.360
<v Speaker 1>they call it? Camp cupcake? I think it is the

900
00:49:55.440 --> 00:49:59.440
<v Speaker 1>other one that's a good being up to anything else.

901
00:50:00.760 --> 00:50:02.880
<v Speaker 2>The only thing other thing I've been up to is

902
00:50:03.639 --> 00:50:08.400
<v Speaker 2>nursing a hurt back. Yeah, but that means I've been

903
00:50:08.440 --> 00:50:13.119
<v Speaker 2>watching stuff. Oh okay, maybe we should end this with

904
00:50:13.159 --> 00:50:14.639
<v Speaker 2>a little what you're watching. I don't know if you

905
00:50:14.679 --> 00:50:15.840
<v Speaker 2>watched any Jedi.

906
00:50:16.119 --> 00:50:18.840
<v Speaker 1>I've not watched anything, you know what. I've been so

907
00:50:18.960 --> 00:50:22.719
<v Speaker 1>fucking busy and so so tired. As the day ends,

908
00:50:23.360 --> 00:50:26.440
<v Speaker 1>I've just been going to bed, and I'm very excited

909
00:50:26.440 --> 00:50:27.519
<v Speaker 1>to do that. Surely.

910
00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:32.599
<v Speaker 2>Well, I've been watching stuff, and I'm actually looking at

911
00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:34.440
<v Speaker 2>my notes right now, and I'm kind of realizing that

912
00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:38.159
<v Speaker 2>the most recent stuff is not not actually in my notes.

913
00:50:38.800 --> 00:50:39.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh fantastic.

914
00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:41.880
<v Speaker 2>But I will you know, I will touch on some

915
00:50:41.960 --> 00:50:44.760
<v Speaker 2>other stuff here, but I'm just going to rattle through

916
00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:48.920
<v Speaker 2>a few of them real quick. The New Terminalist Dark

917
00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:53.800
<v Speaker 2>Wolf very good, okay. Chris Pratt, he barely makes a

918
00:50:54.599 --> 00:50:57.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, an appearance in it. It's mostly Taylor Kitsch

919
00:50:57.800 --> 00:50:58.639
<v Speaker 2>that does his thing.

920
00:50:59.039 --> 00:50:59.639
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay.

921
00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:02.679
<v Speaker 2>And it's kind of a prequel to the to the

922
00:51:02.760 --> 00:51:05.400
<v Speaker 2>last one. You know, I've shot them both, got a

923
00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:08.280
<v Speaker 2>little stuff on each one of them. But it's good.

924
00:51:08.360 --> 00:51:12.599
<v Speaker 2>Go go check it out. And I haven't been to

925
00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:17.599
<v Speaker 2>the movies. What there have not been any movies. Wow,

926
00:51:18.400 --> 00:51:21.960
<v Speaker 2>I've just been watching shows at home. I did come

927
00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:24.119
<v Speaker 2>across a Denzel Washington movie.

928
00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:27.639
<v Speaker 1>Oh I love Denzel, okay, and.

929
00:51:27.639 --> 00:51:31.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so does everybody. Everybody loves Denzel. The only problem

930
00:51:31.480 --> 00:51:33.320
<v Speaker 2>with Denzel is he just always plays Denzel.

931
00:51:34.360 --> 00:51:35.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

932
00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:38.480
<v Speaker 2>But you know, it's only a problem if it's that's

933
00:51:38.480 --> 00:51:39.280
<v Speaker 2>not what you're looking for.

934
00:51:39.960 --> 00:51:41.840
<v Speaker 1>He started good at playing Denzel.

935
00:51:41.880 --> 00:51:45.239
<v Speaker 2>And he is so Denzel in this one. It's called

936
00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Highest and Lowest Movie, and he plays like a record producer.

937
00:51:54.519 --> 00:51:56.079
<v Speaker 2>It's a Spike Lee joint.

938
00:51:56.880 --> 00:51:57.599
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay.

939
00:51:57.960 --> 00:52:01.840
<v Speaker 2>Spike Lee describes his movies as Spike Lee joint and

940
00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:07.880
<v Speaker 2>he plays a music producer. He's basically Jay z Okay

941
00:52:08.440 --> 00:52:13.559
<v Speaker 2>and this thing, his son gets kidnapped. But then it's

942
00:52:13.599 --> 00:52:17.559
<v Speaker 2>not his son that gets kidnapped. They mistaken it for something.

943
00:52:17.599 --> 00:52:22.400
<v Speaker 2>But his assistant, his loyal assistant, his driver, his his

944
00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:26.320
<v Speaker 2>bro who's been his broin since the early days. Whatever,

945
00:52:27.039 --> 00:52:29.639
<v Speaker 2>they miss kidnap his son.

946
00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:31.039
<v Speaker 1>Oh no.

947
00:52:32.679 --> 00:52:34.599
<v Speaker 2>And when they find out that it's not his son,

948
00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:37.440
<v Speaker 2>they still want the money, so they say, you still

949
00:52:37.440 --> 00:52:38.079
<v Speaker 2>have a choice.

950
00:52:38.840 --> 00:52:39.599
<v Speaker 1>Oh Jesus.

951
00:52:40.199 --> 00:52:43.760
<v Speaker 2>And Denzel goes through this whole process of trying to

952
00:52:43.800 --> 00:52:46.639
<v Speaker 2>figure out if he should pay the money. I think

953
00:52:46.679 --> 00:52:49.239
<v Speaker 2>it's something like four million dollars or something like that,

954
00:52:50.159 --> 00:52:54.719
<v Speaker 2>four million dollars to free his his his most loyal

955
00:52:55.440 --> 00:53:00.400
<v Speaker 2>assistance son. And I was just like, no brain, bro,

956
00:53:01.400 --> 00:53:05.000
<v Speaker 2>it's four million bucks, who cares whatever, you know, pay.

957
00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:08.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but this after you're going to say that let

958
00:53:08.280 --> 00:53:08.920
<v Speaker 1>the kid die.

959
00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:12.880
<v Speaker 2>No, it was a no brainer to me. I'm like,

960
00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:14.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm watching this movie and I'm like, wait, how is

961
00:53:14.920 --> 00:53:17.440
<v Speaker 2>this a movie? Like how is it? How is this

962
00:53:17.519 --> 00:53:20.840
<v Speaker 2>even a choice? This guy was there and it does

963
00:53:20.880 --> 00:53:22.960
<v Speaker 2>get into a little bit where he does kind of

964
00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:25.039
<v Speaker 2>make a good point where you know, his business is

965
00:53:25.119 --> 00:53:27.119
<v Speaker 2>hurting and this would totally bankrupt him and stuff like

966
00:53:27.159 --> 00:53:29.840
<v Speaker 2>that and stuff and the dad, you know, the guy

967
00:53:29.840 --> 00:53:32.960
<v Speaker 2>who's his assistant. It's like bro, like ro you know

968
00:53:34.480 --> 00:53:37.519
<v Speaker 2>what's going on here? But to me, it was a

969
00:53:37.559 --> 00:53:40.440
<v Speaker 2>no brainer. And I couldn't believe that that they made

970
00:53:40.480 --> 00:53:42.960
<v Speaker 2>a movie out of this kind of a choice that

971
00:53:43.000 --> 00:53:46.639
<v Speaker 2>people have, you know, but it actually ended up pretty good.

972
00:53:47.199 --> 00:53:48.400
<v Speaker 1>I will watch that. I like them.

973
00:53:48.480 --> 00:53:51.559
<v Speaker 2>So do you remember the Amanda Knocks?

974
00:53:52.320 --> 00:53:52.519
<v Speaker 1>I do.

975
00:53:53.320 --> 00:53:54.679
<v Speaker 2>Did you ever work on anything with that?

976
00:53:55.400 --> 00:53:59.239
<v Speaker 1>I did. I went to Seattle to work a couple

977
00:53:59.239 --> 00:54:00.239
<v Speaker 1>of times.

978
00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, we just watched the I think there's still one

979
00:54:03.960 --> 00:54:07.719
<v Speaker 2>more episode to go, but we just watched the Twisted

980
00:54:07.760 --> 00:54:10.719
<v Speaker 2>Tail of Amanda oox m hm. So you know all

981
00:54:10.719 --> 00:54:11.199
<v Speaker 2>about it?

982
00:54:11.800 --> 00:54:13.039
<v Speaker 1>I know all about it.

983
00:54:13.119 --> 00:54:15.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well there's you know, kind of a live action

984
00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:17.559
<v Speaker 2>version that came out, you know, with the actors.

985
00:54:17.639 --> 00:54:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

986
00:54:18.480 --> 00:54:19.559
<v Speaker 2>You know about this show.

987
00:54:19.480 --> 00:54:22.199
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, it's on my list.

988
00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:25.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, since you know so much about it, I

989
00:54:26.079 --> 00:54:28.639
<v Speaker 2>would love to hear more about it once. I'll just

990
00:54:28.719 --> 00:54:31.559
<v Speaker 2>touch it for a second. So I didn't really know

991
00:54:31.760 --> 00:54:34.239
<v Speaker 2>much about Amanda Ox. I think Kate Beckinsale was in

992
00:54:34.280 --> 00:54:38.280
<v Speaker 2>an Amanda Oox movie right about her. Do you remember

993
00:54:38.480 --> 00:54:39.280
<v Speaker 2>hearing anything about that?

994
00:54:39.960 --> 00:54:44.679
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Maybe I don't. I don't remember, but you.

995
00:54:44.639 --> 00:54:46.320
<v Speaker 2>Know, we kind of dove into this thing not really

996
00:54:46.679 --> 00:54:49.039
<v Speaker 2>knowing much about it, and then we watched a documentary

997
00:54:49.119 --> 00:54:54.440
<v Speaker 2>afterwards about it and the girl playing Amanda Knox, Grace

998
00:54:54.519 --> 00:54:56.440
<v Speaker 2>van Patten. Have you ever heard of her?

999
00:54:56.760 --> 00:54:57.679
<v Speaker 1>A name rings a Bell.

1000
00:54:58.199 --> 00:55:01.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean, she's like a she looks like a Slaine Woodley.

1001
00:55:01.840 --> 00:55:03.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean I thought it was Shlaine Woodley when I

1002
00:55:03.400 --> 00:55:05.320
<v Speaker 2>was seeing like the premiere of this thing and you

1003
00:55:05.360 --> 00:55:07.559
<v Speaker 2>know that kind of thing. I thought it was her.

1004
00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:11.480
<v Speaker 2>But oh yeah, I'm not sure what else she's in.

1005
00:55:11.559 --> 00:55:16.559
<v Speaker 2>What else she y nothing that I've seen, No, but

1006
00:55:16.599 --> 00:55:19.880
<v Speaker 2>she does an insane job on this on this show.

1007
00:55:21.280 --> 00:55:26.599
<v Speaker 2>Totally glued after watching the documentary, and obviously the documentary

1008
00:55:26.719 --> 00:55:28.719
<v Speaker 2>was kind of like, you know, both sides of it

1009
00:55:28.800 --> 00:55:32.679
<v Speaker 2>or something. But did you ever kind of dive into

1010
00:55:33.159 --> 00:55:38.440
<v Speaker 2>the cop the investigator that invested not That's kind of

1011
00:55:38.440 --> 00:55:40.480
<v Speaker 2>what they focus on on this whole thing. Is like

1012
00:55:40.519 --> 00:55:43.679
<v Speaker 2>that guy, the guy that pressured her to kind of

1013
00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:46.320
<v Speaker 2>admit to certain things, the guy, you know, the the

1014
00:55:46.360 --> 00:55:50.880
<v Speaker 2>Italian police force, that kind of pressured her because they

1015
00:55:51.199 --> 00:55:54.239
<v Speaker 2>wanted to close the case because of the pride they

1016
00:55:54.320 --> 00:55:56.960
<v Speaker 2>had of like the police force and stuff like that.

1017
00:55:58.440 --> 00:56:00.920
<v Speaker 2>And it was really interesting the whole dynamic that they

1018
00:56:01.000 --> 00:56:06.199
<v Speaker 2>did with this and how much she actually kind of

1019
00:56:06.239 --> 00:56:11.719
<v Speaker 2>suffered for it. You know, yeah, what what's your take

1020
00:56:11.760 --> 00:56:15.880
<v Speaker 2>on the whole story? Obviously not knowing what I've seen

1021
00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:17.639
<v Speaker 2>in the show and not knowing what the show said,

1022
00:56:17.679 --> 00:56:20.000
<v Speaker 2>but from your, you know, the journalistic point of view

1023
00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:20.239
<v Speaker 2>of it.

1024
00:56:23.000 --> 00:56:26.360
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I remember when I remember, you know, when

1025
00:56:26.400 --> 00:56:30.039
<v Speaker 4>it happened. I think the woman that she she well

1026
00:56:30.199 --> 00:56:34.480
<v Speaker 4>was accused of killing, Meredith Kercher, was a was a

1027
00:56:34.800 --> 00:56:37.679
<v Speaker 4>breat I think. So it was a it was a

1028
00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:40.639
<v Speaker 4>big story in England and.

1029
00:56:40.559 --> 00:56:43.039
<v Speaker 1>I know that it was. It was you know, Knox

1030
00:56:43.119 --> 00:56:47.280
<v Speaker 1>and her boyfriend I think was called Raphael or Raffella.

1031
00:56:48.519 --> 00:56:51.840
<v Speaker 1>They were both both convicted to start with, and you

1032
00:56:51.880 --> 00:56:55.559
<v Speaker 1>know that was uproar in the UK when she got

1033
00:56:55.599 --> 00:56:58.800
<v Speaker 1>to let go, and you know, it's it's still an

1034
00:56:58.880 --> 00:57:02.559
<v Speaker 1>unsold case as far as I'm aware, I think it's

1035
00:57:02.559 --> 00:57:06.159
<v Speaker 1>still a still a cold case. I've never actually watched

1036
00:57:06.199 --> 00:57:09.320
<v Speaker 1>any documentaries on it, so maybe I'll do the same

1037
00:57:09.360 --> 00:57:12.320
<v Speaker 1>as you guys. I'll watch the watch the Hulu series,

1038
00:57:12.360 --> 00:57:15.880
<v Speaker 1>and then then watch the doc Yeah, I know she's

1039
00:57:16.000 --> 00:57:18.679
<v Speaker 1>she's married with a child. Now, I don't think I

1040
00:57:18.719 --> 00:57:20.840
<v Speaker 1>don't think anybody's worked her again for a long time,

1041
00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:22.920
<v Speaker 1>So that might actually be a good one to try

1042
00:57:22.920 --> 00:57:26.039
<v Speaker 1>and get sent on. So I'll tell you about I'll

1043
00:57:26.039 --> 00:57:28.440
<v Speaker 1>tell you about my time shooting her in the next podcast.

1044
00:57:30.039 --> 00:57:33.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean with this whole documentary or with the

1045
00:57:33.199 --> 00:57:35.320
<v Speaker 2>whole show coming out. Obviously there was there was a

1046
00:57:35.400 --> 00:57:39.760
<v Speaker 2>tension for about a week about that, and I would

1047
00:57:39.760 --> 00:57:41.599
<v Speaker 2>have thought somebody would have got something. And I think

1048
00:57:41.639 --> 00:57:44.679
<v Speaker 2>I saw something where I don't know if maybe anybody

1049
00:57:44.719 --> 00:57:47.880
<v Speaker 2>worked on her, but maybe someone got her, you know,

1050
00:57:48.480 --> 00:57:52.039
<v Speaker 2>shopping or something. I remember seeing something about it, like

1051
00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:53.199
<v Speaker 2>a bystander or something.

1052
00:57:53.840 --> 00:57:56.639
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I think she's got her own podcast or

1053
00:57:56.679 --> 00:57:57.559
<v Speaker 1>something now as well.

1054
00:57:57.840 --> 00:58:01.320
<v Speaker 2>Really, yeah, she's got to be. She's got to be

1055
00:58:01.360 --> 00:58:04.320
<v Speaker 2>doing something with all this. And she was at the premiere,

1056
00:58:04.320 --> 00:58:04.840
<v Speaker 2>I think too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm just reading now that Grace Dampan opened up

1058
00:58:09.639 --> 00:58:12.800
<v Speaker 1>about working with Amanda Knox. Yeah, so it looks looks

1059
00:58:12.840 --> 00:58:16.320
<v Speaker 1>like she had something to do with probably an EP

1060
00:58:17.519 --> 00:58:18.519
<v Speaker 1>or something on the show.

1061
00:58:18.880 --> 00:58:21.199
<v Speaker 2>So most of the things, I mean they kind of

1062
00:58:21.239 --> 00:58:23.599
<v Speaker 2>come in her words. I mean the documentary we watched,

1063
00:58:23.880 --> 00:58:26.519
<v Speaker 2>they interviewed everybody. It was the whole the whole police

1064
00:58:26.519 --> 00:58:29.719
<v Speaker 2>force and everything. And you know, I get frustrated when

1065
00:58:29.760 --> 00:58:32.880
<v Speaker 2>I watch they don't call him an investigator. They call

1066
00:58:32.960 --> 00:58:38.039
<v Speaker 2>him something else there. But yeah, you know, it pisses

1067
00:58:38.039 --> 00:58:40.800
<v Speaker 2>me off when I see this guy and like the

1068
00:58:40.840 --> 00:58:44.440
<v Speaker 2>way they supposedly treated her and stuff like that. Supposedly

1069
00:58:44.440 --> 00:58:48.079
<v Speaker 2>there was another guy. Supposedly there was a there was

1070
00:58:48.119 --> 00:58:49.920
<v Speaker 2>a guy they knew that was a kind of a

1071
00:58:50.000 --> 00:58:56.159
<v Speaker 2>known criminal, that his DNA was everywhere, and that's what

1072
00:58:56.199 --> 00:58:58.280
<v Speaker 2>it was all about. It was all about her story,

1073
00:58:58.400 --> 00:59:00.800
<v Speaker 2>her changing the story, a little bit of DNA here

1074
00:59:00.840 --> 00:59:03.280
<v Speaker 2>and there and stuff like that. But this guy's DNA

1075
00:59:03.360 --> 00:59:05.960
<v Speaker 2>was ever worse. So it's kind of odd that this

1076
00:59:06.000 --> 00:59:08.400
<v Speaker 2>guy was the guy that kind of hit whatever he did.

1077
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<v Speaker 2>You know. Yeah, it's a good show and we're kind

1078
00:59:13.599 --> 00:59:16.119
<v Speaker 2>of really into it. And if you're like that kind

1079
00:59:16.119 --> 00:59:17.760
<v Speaker 2>of a thing, definitely check it out.

1080
00:59:18.320 --> 00:59:19.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'll watch that one.

1081
00:59:20.079 --> 00:59:22.000
<v Speaker 2>And we're watching other things, but I can't even think

1082
00:59:22.039 --> 00:59:25.119
<v Speaker 2>of anything that I'm watching right now, but I'm watching

1083
00:59:25.400 --> 00:59:29.920
<v Speaker 2>but the Mandalorian and Grogu trailer came out today, Jedi,

1084
00:59:30.599 --> 00:59:33.320
<v Speaker 2>I saw like I posted on the Instagram. No one's

1085
00:59:33.320 --> 00:59:34.679
<v Speaker 2>more excited about that than you.

1086
00:59:35.400 --> 00:59:40.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh I cannot wait. Yeah, huge huge goog fan, Yeah

1087
00:59:40.599 --> 00:59:41.519
<v Speaker 1>gro goo Yeah.

1088
00:59:41.840 --> 00:59:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Now the question is, Jedi, is this gonna be

1089
00:59:44.920 --> 00:59:48.679
<v Speaker 2>the first Star Wars movie you ever watch? Absolutely not,

1090
00:59:49.199 --> 00:59:51.480
<v Speaker 2>because you don't have to watch any other movie to

1091
00:59:51.519 --> 00:59:52.719
<v Speaker 2>know what's going on in this movie.

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00:59:53.119 --> 00:59:56.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna watch any of them, zero interest. I

1093
00:59:56.239 --> 00:59:59.400
<v Speaker 1>would rather watch Paint Dry or grass Grow.

1094
01:00:00.239 --> 01:00:02.960
<v Speaker 2>You're you're making followers drop off by saying that you

1095
01:00:03.000 --> 01:00:09.079
<v Speaker 2>really maybe maybe I think we're good on this. I

1096
01:00:09.079 --> 01:00:10.320
<v Speaker 2>think we should cut this one.

1097
01:00:10.679 --> 01:00:13.320
<v Speaker 1>Yep. I need I need a shower, I need to

1098
01:00:13.320 --> 01:00:14.960
<v Speaker 1>do an edit, and I need to go to bed.

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01:00:15.440 --> 01:00:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I need to do an edit too, go fool.

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01:00:18.920 --> 01:00:21.440
<v Speaker 1>That's exciting. That's something to look forward to for the

1101
01:00:21.480 --> 01:00:23.360
<v Speaker 1>next podcast. We've both got stories.

1102
01:00:23.679 --> 01:00:28.519
<v Speaker 2>Yep. We apologize to anybody we have offended on this episode,

1103
01:00:29.599 --> 01:00:32.960
<v Speaker 2>but we both have edits to do, so we both

1104
01:00:33.039 --> 01:00:35.880
<v Speaker 2>will bring up our stories in the next podcast if

1105
01:00:35.920 --> 01:00:41.719
<v Speaker 2>we can remember. Yeah, but for myself and for Jedi,

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01:00:42.159 --> 01:00:45.719
<v Speaker 2>take care and be well. We always get the photos.

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01:00:46.119 --> 01:00:49.599
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I don't run because I'm elderly.

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<v Speaker 1>They shot us with peppables.