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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, Welcome back to That's Not Mattal where we

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are here every single Friday with you, letting you know

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everything that's been going on, everything that you need to

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know in the world of rock and heavy music. And

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this is an addition of Hyperblast, our weekly news show

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where we concentrate on doing that very thing. My name

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is Perrinheyish here to as they give you all the news,

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give you the releases, but you want to hear this week.

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And across from me joining me is Sam Digno and

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Hey Sam, how you doing?

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Speaker 2: Yeah good, tired after jumping a lot last night and

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having a very rowdy time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So you're referring to Turnstiles. I guess this is technically

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an arena tour. They played was like Depot Mayfield in Manchester.

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Speaker 3: Alexandra Palace, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, somewhere else speaking Glasgow. I'm sure Alexandra Palace. I've

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heard all week obviously, I've been hearing about how crazy

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these Turnstile shows have been, and I feel like we

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have we've we've you know, we've pretty well covered what

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the Turnstile live show is kind of like these days,

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even including their new album. Because of your report, from

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Outbreak London, but just in terms of it translating to

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you know, an arena setting with azraa parents and like

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I said, I've heard you know, NonStop breathing if you will,

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from people who have been at these shows, Like how

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how did it feel watching hardcore band Turnstile headline and

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indoor arena like that?

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Speaker 2: There is still again, like I've said, I saw them,

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you know, headline a big outdoor festival in the summer,

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but there's still a surreal feeling, especially when they're dropping,

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pushing me away in phase down stuff like that. I

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It's like I saw this in the Fighting Cox ten

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years ago. This this is such an odd thing to

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be seeing to me, but this feels like the most

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kind of like oh yeah, the really popular thing is

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the best thing for once, and it's just a great feeling.

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So this is the thing that I think the bigger

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talking point for this is like, obviously Turnstile are great.

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They've been great live for a decade plus, and you

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know they are. They seem to just so naturally fit

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by it being a huge rock band as well as

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being a hardcore band.

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Speaker 3: They're so set that.

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Speaker 2: But the big talking point that I think everyone's come

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across is the crowd, and obviously there's gonna be one

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Posttion was like, oh, you know, so not a park

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or crowd and moreh blah blah blah blah blah whatever.

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Don't care about that, because this is one of those gigs.

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I'm like, this feels like it's like again galvanized people.

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It's getting the crowd passionately, like aggressively involved, like you

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know you go to gigs. Is like there's the pit

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and then there's the kind of like people the fun thing,

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and then everyone else like stood around enjoying it, maybe

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singing along.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, turnstile.

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Speaker 2: It feels like the energy just takes over the entire

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n I ended up right down the front kind of

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by accident, just by getting kind of moved about by

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the crowd because it was just going mental the entire night.

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And again I don't know how far back that did stretch,

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but from the very first bit of never Enough, when

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everyone's just singing that intro to the moment that Riff

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comes in, it was just like a sea of movement.

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Speaker 3: The entire time.

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Speaker 2: They have a thing where they've got like people running

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around the crowd with cameras, so that the screen of

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the backdrop for most.

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Speaker 4: Of the set, the crowd, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It's the most the backdrop saw video screen.

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Speaker 2: For most of set, it's just videos off the crowd,

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just washing, dancing, crowdsurfing, singing, just people like collapsing to

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the floor after getting knocked down in the pit. Like

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it just you get like aerial shots of the crowd

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where you're just gonna seeing this, like again, this wave

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of movement. And it was just kind of I was like,

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this is what I feel like a lot of rock

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shops we have been missing. Is that vital energy that

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that kind of just feels that people are like completely engaged,

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they're jumping at the same time doing it. No one

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is just kind of like just watching the entire set

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through their phone. It is like and again, it's a

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diverse crowd, Like there are hard good kids still there,

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but there are people who probably have never heard of

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Hate Breed.

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Speaker 3: Or even other like.

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Speaker 2: But I'm like, if the normies want to pick Turnstile

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as their rock band of choice, that they are gonna

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like come to and completely immerse themselves in the culture

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and they're gonna mosh and they're gonna dance. I fully

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support it, Like this is one of those kind of

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moments of like, yeah, sometimes again being the best does

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actually pay off and you do get to reap the rewards.

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And this doesn't feel like this is the ceiling. Is

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the other sort of crazy thing, like it feels like

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they can go further. They start at Alexandra Palace in

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a day. The challenge is gonna be obviously do they

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when they go to bigger? Are people gonna want to

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sit for Turnstile Because that kind of movement and that

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energy is such a vital part of it. It feels

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like everyone just wants to be involved in the Turnstile show,

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like even again when.

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Speaker 3: They it just it feels cool that this is one

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of our bands.

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Speaker 2: This is one of like the cool, credible mans that

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have done it off their own back of like they've

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obviously had you know, some of this, they've never felt

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like the ordained, like the on the cover of every

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magazine every month and they're getting that big push.

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Speaker 3: It's just kind of they've done it through being brilliant

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and working hard. So awesome to be a part of.

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Speaker 2: And again two shows I have seen in this summer in

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big settings and it feels like the natural place to

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see Turnstile. Now this isn't one of those I'm kind

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of like, ah, but I miss them that I could

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see them in you know, sort of venues that Outbreaks

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set from a couple of years ago still the kind

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of like the biblical standard of because it was this

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sort of show without a barrier. But they are so

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just like exciting to watch. They're just explosive. They look

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like the coolest band everyone stage, and it just it's

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made rock music feel cool and vital in a way

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that I think few bands have.

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Speaker 3: Even again, bands will like where they've got.

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Speaker 2: To this level, they've never felt as call and vitals

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Turnstile do right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Because one of the things is it's galvanizing, Like

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you're saying people from not only who have been in

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the culture for years and years, but you know newer

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entries and you know younger people, and it's translating in

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a way that what has been said a lot about

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you know, rock and heavy bands in the last at

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least ten to fifteen is is kind of you know,

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a stumbling block in doing that. And we've had our

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complaints about some of the bands who have done that.

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really breaking through into that kind of you know, jumping

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over that almost impossible barrier that's been for years and

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years now is like a really I mean I haven't

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even I haven't been to a Turnstile show in years

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at this point, Like I haven't seen them since fucking

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like time and space era. But just from afar, watching

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it kind of unfold and it just you know, pull

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more and more people in is undoubtedly one of the exciting,

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you know stories, maybe even trend changing if you like

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things that is happening in around So yeah, like a

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sterling job from everybody involved apparently in terms of, yeah,

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turning up and making that kind of thing happen like that.

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So that's awesome to hear we have here got on

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the news. First of all, I should clarify, unfortunately that

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the last week's story about the Sammy hagar impersonator has

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unfortunately been proven to be a hoax, is not a

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true story. I think you could probably look at some

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of the details in that story and be like, yeah,

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maybe this is all too good to be true and

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too embellished. I'm still happy that we just had it

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on our radar because it pure and simple. It was

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a funny thing to talk about. It was a fun

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thing for us to discuss and riff off of, but

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unfortunately not real. But I'm still glad that in some

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abstract form happened as well. What we are really here

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to start off with on the news is we also

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had some of this last week with like some about

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Tangent and Radar Festival coming through with their lineups. But

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for whatever reason, we're around this period like it's always

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Aroun dam Nation Festival where for whatever reason, I don't

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know what is the embargo lifts on every festival in

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the UK and announcing all of their lineups at once.

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sort of weird like war jumping out? I mean something

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like two that and trees in our tangents the same

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fucking people, right, So I don't know why, but like,

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what is the logic behind every festival, like you know,

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who are competing in some sense of form all drop

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in their things at the same time. But we have

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you know, interested in and checking out what they're doing

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next year, who have all dropped significant portions of their

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of the general excitement. So the first one, I think

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the first slam Dunk announcement, right I you know, yes,

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always are. You can guarantee there was somewhere on a

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standout line up there'll be something of worth. But there

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lineup and I didn't feel any way about it in

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same stationary, you know, pitch that slam Dug has been

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in for this entire decade pretty much. But when they've

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Speaker 2: I mean, in overall, this is probably the strongest slam

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Dunk lineup since the kind of like initial one back

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after COVID. But that heavy stage where they've done, where

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they've gone back to the thing of two heavy stages,

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I'm guessing it's going to be like I was that

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in the tent where there's one ever end and it's

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no breaks. But they they've they've stacked it up. I mean,

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heavy bands that can play slam Dunk. That's kind of

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at this point not loose, you know. We I've seen

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that show like last year in Brigs and it was

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Speaker 3: And again when you already.

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Speaker 3: Stuff is very still slam Dunk coded.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's one of the one of the complaints

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of slam Dunk is the heavy stage which in the

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years I went to slam Dunk, Yeah, I could watch

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a fun pop punk mainstage headliner or something, but a

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lot of my day would have been made up by

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the heavier stage, and it's been really weak in the

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last few years because a lot of it has been

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focused on You look at the kind of the metal

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chorus stage and it's like, oh great, I Prevail are there,

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and then all of the eye Prevail alikes and it's just,

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you know that it just felt it was stuck in

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that particular corner. But the kind of heavy bands that

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would you know, draw you know, people with slightly more

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involved taste in heavy music, shall we say to a

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slam Dunk they're back here right as you said, you know,

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not Loose, Comeback, Kid, Guilt, Trip, Dying, Wish, Pest Control,

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Angel Dust are on there. Like if you add this

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heavy stage onto the you know again the first slam

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Dunk announcement, I still I don't really feel any which

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way towards it, but having at least a good heavy

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stage does speak, you know, it does a lot of

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the heavy lifting when it comes to Slam Dunk. And

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this year I can certainly say it's the first something

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in a couple of years where I've gone, oh, there's

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some you know that that's a good stage, Like that's

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a stage that is worth you know, admission for. So yeah,

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slam Dunk line up there then speaking of heavy bands though,

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and you know, if you are wanting to if those

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are the kind of bands that grab your ear, maybe

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you're looking at Slam Dunk. Then a couple days later

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or whatever it was, Outbreak came through with their twenty

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twenty six announcement, and boy, oh boy, where do we

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start here? Two big names at the top of the

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poster are Basement, which is not unusual.

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Speaker 3: Because every other year that they do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but fine, it works. It's good, bit more unusual

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and not a booking I expected, but wow, Alexxus on

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Fire a headlining Outbreak, and not only that, it's going

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to be a set performing Crisis in full for its

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twentieth anniversary. Elsewhere, slightly lower down on the post, we

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have suicidal Tendencies Converge are like three lines down on

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this thing trapped under ice and a hate Breed performing

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a set of songs primarily drawn from satisfaction with the

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death of desire and perseverance, so the peak out Break

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stuff that Hatebreed could be playing. And then even then

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lower down into the smallest names that are on here,

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We've got Pup, We've got high Vis, We've got two

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Chea Moro performing stage full, We've got louder stage, the

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Armed trash Talker Back, Fiddlehead Scowl, Harm's Way, Higher Power,

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Haywire are on there, and I know they've been kind

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of blown up in the last year or so. Body

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like in terms of the oh my god, this particular booking,

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there's at least like three or four on there of

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like that is going to be an event at Outbreak,

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And then you add on the general strength and depth

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of your reliably strong bands at the moment, like a

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fiddle Headed Scowl obviously converge whatever it might be. This is,

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I mean, Outbreak is it's one of those festivals I

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think at the moment we just say it is always

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kind of good. But this is a for a fucking

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opening gambit as well. First announcement. This is fucking cool.

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Speaker 2: Alex on Fire obviously Albert is traditionally like a hardcore festival.

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Alex Fi obviously more a post hardcore band, but they

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are of the kind of noise post harc bands.

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Speaker 3: They are one of the most revered and.

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Speaker 2: Respected that if you're going to book one of them

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to head like obviously Albert's had Thursday played before, and

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they're in that kind of category.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know if Alexis on Fire would do

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outbreaking because again I wasn't sure where to judge it

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because Thursday are a little bit more underground. Maybe Alexe

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on Fire are like a you know, a big bricks

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and Academy selling, somewhat mainstream kind of band. So I

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didn't know how much outbreak crossover they had, and I hope,

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imagine probably that they will have enough of a strengthen

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fan base to make it work, but I didn't expect

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it as a booking, and then the idea of not

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only them playing it, not only doing a obviously a

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particular theme set, but also just the general prospect of

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like no barrier outbreak alex on Fire set that sounds unreal.

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Speaker 3: Like alex one of my favorite live bands to watch.

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Speaker 2: Me getting to see them without a barrier, I'm gonna

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like die several times over during the set. And the

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thing is the outbreak faithful, I've kind of gone like, yeah,

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fucking Alextion Fire because of all of them for their friend

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of a hardcore they jammed christisfore they knew what like

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could I've never heard of Youth of Today or any

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of those can like proper hardcore bad like Leady Harkamans

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and I'm just picturing on the stage Invasion when they

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played this could be anywhere in the world. Is You're

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not gonna be able to see the band for the

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amount of people trying to get that mic.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be insane suicidal tendencies.

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Speaker 2: I kind of want to keep overlooking because the lineup

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is just that good like that, that's a really cool

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booking for Outbreak.

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Speaker 3: You're kind of like legendary harkband have never done it before.

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Speaker 2: Hate Breed is like my dream Outbreak said that I've

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been saying every single year for the past how many

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years of going to Outbreak, I'm saying, book Hate Reed,

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Please book Hate Reed, Book Hate Breed. And they've booked

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Hate Reed and then just doing the satisfaction and person

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for it's set.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Hate Hate Breed always good live. Obviously not a

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rarity in the UK, so it's not an event in

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that sense. But this is like the specific Outbreak Hate

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Breed set that people have been wanting, and yeah that

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the set and the environment for the set is one

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of those as said sort of biblical. People have been

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waiting for it moments.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that that's just the thing is like

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and that the no barrier thing it does just make

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certain sets more exciting. So so sentences play you know,

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like they could play download and it would be cool,

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But so stances about barrier, that's an exciting prospect. You know,

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everyone going ravagering that chorus and introduced lies that's gonna

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go off converts. We saw them had like like Cohend

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out record years ago. That's gonna be amazing as always.

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And then you have like again the Outbreak Faithful as

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well as some like quite cool up and coming kind

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of underground bands on the kind of like emo shoe

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Gaze all rock hardcore side. As much as I end it,

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that album came out a couple months ago, people have

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been bringing about.

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Speaker 1: That Pups first time that Outbreak, So that would be cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be cool, like like a really cool kind

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of new emo scream o band that have been kind

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of catching a bit of attention. For me, this is

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exactly what I want from an outbreak Mawnlub, I am

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very excited about this and I think it's again as

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an opening gambit serious business.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it's because it kind of leaked

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out last week as well, but you haven't even actually

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mentioned to share more a doing stage four, which I

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know for you and many other people out there will

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be yeah, an incredibly intense moment.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean for someone like me who I go to

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Outbreak kind of like maybe every few years when there's

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a particular lineup that appeals to me, rather than going

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every single year. This is the most tempting lineup for

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me since probably the last year I went, which was

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twenty twenty three. And I would just have to state

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for the record, twenty sixth through the twenty eighth of

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June in Manchester. Twenty fifth the Thursday is Acid Bath,

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which we were talking about last week, so it's possible

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to have that as a four day weekend, which sounds

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fucking crazy.

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Speaker 3: They are adding a Friday date to it as well.

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Speaker 2: That is going to be a separate kind of ticketed

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event because it's not this poster, but they are adding

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I mean everything on the post so far is for

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the Saturday Sunday, and they have said they're adding a

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Friday event. The lineup which will be kind of ticketed separately,

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but that's web noting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I still don't entirely understand how that whole system,

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like why they've leaned into this kind of separate day

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ticket kind of scenario, but as said, yeah, it's a

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possible four day weekend there, and particularly if this is

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just Saturday and Sunday, then it looks fucking brilliant. So

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Outbreak absolutely nailing it on this. Then we turned to oh, yeah,

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the biggest one of the bunch, of course, Download Firstival,

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who Download have taken to this sort of you know,

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press conference style unveilment of their lineup every year that

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we get around this time of year, and so we

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got beams to us from from London wherever it happened.

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Download Festivals twenty twenty six first gambit features ninety plus bands,

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including all three of the main stage headliners four next year.

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It's worth saying, as it says as the poster that

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every one of these headliners I guess I would expect

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from Download, but says it all headliners are UK exclusive.

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So the only twenty twenty six states that they will

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be playing and it is Limp, Biscuit, Guns and Roses

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and Lincoln Park. I'm going to read out the rest

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of the names who have their logo on the poster,

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which is bad Omens, Cypress Hill, Trivium, Architects, Electric Core Boy, Hailstorm,

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Eisneine Kills, Baby Metal, Pendulum, the Pretty Reckless, Black Veil Brides,

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Behemoth Mastered on the All American Rejects, Feeder, Cavaliera doing Kosad,

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Static X, and Bloody Cantation and yes, Bloody Cantation are

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a logo band on this poster above lots of other

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names below them, which did result an incredible thing where

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like all my death metal friends were looking at the

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poster and having to learn whose scene queen is and

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all the other the concept of these people having to

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ever look at this stuff because Bloody Cantation and Bloody

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Cantation do have their nice, readable prog rock logo rather

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than the old pilot Twiggs thing. But obviously there is

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plenty of other names below that as well. Some that

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jump out include let Live returning to the UK next

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year for for for Download, Headliners First, and I guess

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sort of general impressions of the higher ends of the bill,

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olymp Biscuit, Guns and Roses, and Lincoln Park that as

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a trio, all three of those are obviously there's no

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there's no risk there. I don't think even with lymp

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Biscuit being a first time headliner and it's a kind

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of a big deal, I suppose that it's another one

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of these bands like we've seen like Corn, who are

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taking their step up to it. I'm not surprised by it.

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I was predicting this kind of thing. I still think

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it could be possible for the likes of Death Tones

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and Nine Inch Nails to follow in their way can

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have the similar treatment. But you know, olymp Biscuit are

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having their moment, but them Lincoln Park.

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Speaker 4: And Guns and Roses.

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Speaker 1: It does feel like it's particularly obously with two of

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these bands being of the same kind of era, it

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feels like it is a more banked on millennial nostalgia

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download than it is some of the recent years when

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we've had maybe more twenty first century even pop punk

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bands like Fall That Boy or whatever playing. And obviously

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last year we had a completely new headliner of a

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current generation band in sleep Token. We haven't got that

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kind of booking out of these three with as said

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a more are you a sick new world ish if

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you like approach to it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean again the new melt nostalgia we've kind

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of of that is like it is the thing of

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the moment. I look at these headliners and I go like,

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they're all bank of all reliable things.

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Speaker 3: I kind of just have to go over that. I'm

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not the target download audience anymore, like I, as.

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Speaker 2: We've said, we're more suited to these more needs, more boutique,

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smaller festivals. I think if you're a person who like

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enjoys the the top line sort of stuff, there is

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plenty to enjoy here.

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Speaker 3: I think the Biscuit will be like a rabid success.

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Speaker 2: I think obviously they were they subheadlined last time, and

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everyone was like they should just headline. They're like going

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by the crowd size all that.

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Speaker 1: My thing.

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Speaker 2: I think the thing that sort of sticks out is

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it's Gone and Roses are the one that feel like

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the kind of like a book in which it feels

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so funny to say that when you can see the

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how when they lasted it, it was kind of like

477
00:22:08,599 --> 00:22:10,799
that was the event of that download, was the twenty

478
00:22:10,839 --> 00:22:14,000
eighteen Guns and Roses set, and it's they seem to

479
00:22:14,039 --> 00:22:16,160
be the book and that people are kind of like

480
00:22:16,279 --> 00:22:19,440
most questions now, mainly again because this summer of shows

481
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,839
seemed to dampen a lot of people's spirits on Guns

482
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,799
and Roses as a live prospect, And it just feels

483
00:22:24,839 --> 00:22:28,559
like if you'd swap out like the most like nostalgia

484
00:22:28,599 --> 00:22:32,000
headliner for something new, it would just look a bit

485
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,519
more interesting as a sort of festival booking linka Parker

486
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,480
on Great Life Form Limbiscuit first time, and then if

487
00:22:38,519 --> 00:22:41,200
you had a ghost or a Parkway Drive in the

488
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,720
middle there, it would just feel there'd be a bit

489
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,119
more sparked to it, and there would be again that

490
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,640
event feeling. This just feels that again, dependable big names

491
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:50,559
that will drawer crowd.

492
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 3: Let's get them in there.

493
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, Guns and Roses, it'll be was

494
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,759
it twenty eighteen, so eight years between their headlines, But

495
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,200
it feels like it's a say, mentally the exact same,

496
00:23:01,519 --> 00:23:04,400
but there's been no progression. They released like, you know,

497
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,559
the tiniest handful of immediately memory hold.

498
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 4: Songs and.

499
00:23:11,079 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 3: A lot over the years, haven't they.

500
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, And on that kind of front, every single you know,

501
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,720
every individual headliner there I think obviously does work as

502
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,240
a download thing, and there's nothing there where you go

503
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,319
a or even I don't think that will work. Maybe

504
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,039
Guns and Roses will be a bit same old, same old,

505
00:23:24,079 --> 00:23:25,680
and maybe they won't be on their best life form.

506
00:23:25,759 --> 00:23:28,359
But functionally people are going to turn up to watch

507
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,319
Guns and Roses because that's what happens when Guns and

508
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,359
Roses play. But as a three, I think you could

509
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:37,559
take one of those and if you swapped it out

510
00:23:37,599 --> 00:23:40,359
for something that is more Again, sleep Token, head Binding

511
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,079
and Download last year, everyone knows that we're not fans,

512
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,400
and maybe I think there were reports last or this

513
00:23:46,559 --> 00:23:50,160
year of a very obvious schism taking place between the

514
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,799
people who are totally there for sleep Token and then

515
00:23:52,839 --> 00:23:56,039
having a very rabid, intense response up the front for

516
00:23:56,079 --> 00:23:57,799
the people who were really getting there for them. But

517
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,480
maybe not as many people were sticking around to see

518
00:24:01,559 --> 00:24:04,960
Slate Token if they are not, you know, dedicated fans,

519
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,000
And I don't know how much of a kind of

520
00:24:07,079 --> 00:24:09,359
impact on the thinking of booking and whatnot that will

521
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,480
have had on the download team, but they haven't swung

522
00:24:12,519 --> 00:24:14,799
for something similar here. And I agree if you were

523
00:24:14,799 --> 00:24:17,000
to take one of these bands, any one of them really,

524
00:24:17,079 --> 00:24:19,160
But let's say Limp Biscuit. Well, let's say Guns and

525
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,160
Roses because Linky Park, I guess, are the kind of

526
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:26,279
most obvious on the form they're currently on, and you know,

527
00:24:26,319 --> 00:24:29,079
there's there's something behind them right there is a you know,

528
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,440
they feel whether you think that this record is great

529
00:24:32,519 --> 00:24:34,119
or not whatever, like Linky Park are somewhat relevant to

530
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,640
the rock conversation right now. You can have them there

531
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,160
if you'd take one of these other two and swap

532
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,960
them for something new. My big question is where is

533
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:47,319
Ghost because I thought, surely, now after you know, we've

534
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:51,319
had the Skeleton Arenator this year, people have kind of,

535
00:24:51,519 --> 00:24:53,559
you know, wondered maybe they'll be doing something of their

536
00:24:53,599 --> 00:24:55,799
own next year, which I would certainly be interested to

537
00:24:55,799 --> 00:24:57,519
see if something pops up, if they've chosen to do

538
00:24:57,599 --> 00:25:01,160
something else rather than like a download. But I thought,

539
00:25:01,279 --> 00:25:05,440
surely this is Ghost's time and again to compared to

540
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:06,880
Guns and Roses, Guns and Rows in the last eight

541
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,400
years since they headlined, they've put out Absurd and whatever

542
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,440
the fucking other couple songs were that no one remembers

543
00:25:12,519 --> 00:25:15,400
or listens to. In the time since Guns and Roses

544
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,119
were last booked to headline download, we have had Prequel

545
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,279
from Ghost, we have had Impera from Ghost, and we've

546
00:25:22,319 --> 00:25:25,920
had Skeleton. They have been in the global box office

547
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,640
with their concert film before they had been booked at

548
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,839
the top of a download poster, and if anyone was

549
00:25:30,839 --> 00:25:33,960
going to follow after they you kind of seemingly, you know,

550
00:25:34,039 --> 00:25:35,559
open the flug. It's a little bit for newer bands

551
00:25:35,559 --> 00:25:38,200
with Fleet Token surely go. I know you mentioned Parkway

552
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:39,400
Drive as well, and then the other bands who are

553
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:40,720
kind of in the wings where we're waiting to see

554
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,279
if they could do that. But Ghost feel like if

555
00:25:43,279 --> 00:25:45,160
there's one band right now who I feel are ready

556
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,599
to do it, it surely would be Ghosts. And again,

557
00:25:48,599 --> 00:25:50,000
if you took any one of these bands here and

558
00:25:50,039 --> 00:25:52,400
you swap them out for a Ghost, the whole thing

559
00:25:52,519 --> 00:25:56,920
looks stronger, because the whole thing looks more contemporary, right,

560
00:25:57,319 --> 00:25:59,839
And there's something to that there whereas opposed to these three,

561
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,640
even with limp Biscuit being their first time doing it.

562
00:26:02,799 --> 00:26:05,119
But it's going to be olymp Biscuit show that the

563
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,079
world has pretty much already seen, right, it doesn't. It

564
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,680
just doesn't sing in the way that even just replacing

565
00:26:11,799 --> 00:26:14,799
one of those with something newer like a ghost a

566
00:26:14,839 --> 00:26:17,640
parkway drive for example, would do. And then you look

567
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,880
at the let's say the next rundown of the logo

568
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,960
bands on it, and like, yeah, Bloody Cantation are a

569
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,079
logo band now, which is fucking amazing, and like, yeah,

570
00:26:26,079 --> 00:26:30,079
obviously everyone likes Trivian, baby Metal and Iceline Kills or

571
00:26:30,079 --> 00:26:33,759
whatever are popular draws. Bad omens are there, maybe they'll

572
00:26:33,799 --> 00:26:35,160
be waiting in the wings to get there, you know,

573
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,720
lift up to headline or whatever. Architects are there, But

574
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,000
it doesn't It just doesn't look like a very exciting time,

575
00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:43,000
does it, Like when when the Pretty Reckless and blackfeld

576
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,359
Brides are right there next to each other on it

577
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:46,799
And I just want to pick up on what something

578
00:26:46,839 --> 00:26:47,079
you said?

579
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 4: Is I going to go about me and you?

580
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,279
Speaker 1: And I think, obviously this is this is me and

581
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,799
you speaking to certainly people in like our T and

582
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,519
M discord server for example, or people in our Facebook group.

583
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,759
I think there's a lot of people who we're not

584
00:26:59,839 --> 00:27:01,680
on the majority group, because the majority group are the

585
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,599
people that go to download right, but there is a

586
00:27:04,039 --> 00:27:06,480
notable group of maybe the demographic that we fall into

587
00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:09,799
and a lot of our listeners of people who have

588
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,799
been drawn more to I think over the last lot

589
00:27:11,839 --> 00:27:13,359
of ten years or so, you know, in the time

590
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,160
that TNM has been been happening, these niche, more dedicated

591
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,960
festivals have cornered their areas of the market a lot more,

592
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:23,680
where a lot of us are going to be a

593
00:27:23,759 --> 00:27:26,480
lot more inclined, particularly with downloads, rising ticket prices and whatnot,

594
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,160
which is a whole thing unto itself. You might be

595
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,119
more inclined to do an outbreak if you want to

596
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,440
see your exciting hardcore bands. You might be more inclined

597
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:34,880
to do two thousand Trees, which we're going to talk

598
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,519
about in a minute in their announcement. If you just

599
00:27:36,599 --> 00:27:40,279
want kind of a nice, big outdoor rocks festival, but

600
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,319
it isn't as much fucking hassle as download is. Someone

601
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,599
like me might be more inclined to go to you know,

602
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,839
you've got your bloodstocks, you've got even your niche kind

603
00:27:47,839 --> 00:27:50,599
of extreme metal events like Incineration or Fortress or whatever

604
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,160
it might be. Where I look at Behemoth, a one

605
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,160
of these logo bands here, and Behemoth feel like a

606
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,079
download staple, right Like Behemoth will play download every few years,

607
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,640
and it's not unusual for Black metal band Behemoth to

608
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,720
be playing Download, but I look at what's around them

609
00:28:02,759 --> 00:28:06,160
and I genuinely go like, Behemoth looks swamped on this light,

610
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,680
Like what is there to support someone who's they're really

611
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,240
excited see Behemoth, Like, yeah, maybe they'll go see the Cavaliers.

612
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,200
They might see Trivium or Matteredon or something. But like

613
00:28:15,759 --> 00:28:18,240
Blood Incantation are going to be playing to it, even

614
00:28:18,319 --> 00:28:21,880
as hyped and as you know, riding a wave as

615
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,160
Blankendation are, they're going to be playing to a complete

616
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,640
crowd of kind of curios rather than the people who

617
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,039
have turned out to see them on this latest UK tour,

618
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,880
Behemoth look fucking swamped on it. And I think it's

619
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:39,000
just a definite phenomenon that downloads stagnation. I think in

620
00:28:39,079 --> 00:28:42,240
the last few years, certainly since COVID, I think more

621
00:28:42,279 --> 00:28:45,119
and more people who are maybe of our mindset are

622
00:28:45,279 --> 00:28:50,519
turning more to the more boutique type events to get

623
00:28:50,599 --> 00:28:54,480
their fill of what download hasn't really kept up with.

624
00:28:55,119 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 2: Well, the thing is because the download of me it

625
00:28:57,359 --> 00:28:59,559
comes apart when you get to this logo thing, because again,

626
00:29:00,079 --> 00:29:02,799
lot of the best stuff on there, it's stuff that's

627
00:29:02,799 --> 00:29:05,160
happened this year this festival season just gone and now

628
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,599
download's kind of like picking up Blood Incantation, did that

629
00:29:09,279 --> 00:29:12,960
mind bending Incineration fest set, you know, did their big

630
00:29:13,039 --> 00:29:16,880
comeback at Trees Trivium headline, Bloodstock.

631
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: Even Coroagi Caforniti, who are on this headlighted Damnation this weekend.

632
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,839
Speaker 2: It feels a lot of the really like the best,

633
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,160
really exciting stuff. It feels like it's download just kind

634
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,200
of picking up from other festivals. I mean, on the

635
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,960
logo thing, the only name that that actually I'm like,

636
00:29:31,039 --> 00:29:33,319
that's really cool is Cypress Hill. That's the one I

637
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,960
kind of like that feels like that's that's a different

638
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,240
bit of a left fild booking. I would imagine you

639
00:29:38,279 --> 00:29:40,799
would stick them on before lymp Biscuit and that would

640
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,640
just be sort of party night Friday. There are seven

641
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,119
bands on this logo section. What I would rather go

642
00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:52,960
watch Electric coll Boy. That is as damning as I

643
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,119
can kind of be about this download lineup, Like it

644
00:29:57,279 --> 00:30:03,640
isn't terrible, but who is you know, happy seeing their

645
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,279
own logo The Pretty Reckless and Blackvelt Brides in twenty

646
00:30:07,359 --> 00:30:07,839
twenty six.

647
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,839
Speaker 3: It it just doesn't make sense to me.

648
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,319
Speaker 2: And then you get into the smaller bands, and there's

649
00:30:13,359 --> 00:30:16,599
cool stuff, you know, drain cool like that, that's cool.

650
00:30:17,839 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 3: The spits however, like we've been really having a demons

651
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:21,279
and like that.

652
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,079
Speaker 2: There is good stuff on there, but just as a vibe,

653
00:30:24,839 --> 00:30:27,759
all the most exciting stuff has already kind of been

654
00:30:27,839 --> 00:30:30,720
around this festival season and there's nothing that feels like

655
00:30:30,799 --> 00:30:34,039
a kind of unmissible events. Again, I was just raving

656
00:30:34,039 --> 00:30:37,240
about Alex and Fire at Outbreak and yes they just

657
00:30:37,319 --> 00:30:39,960
did trees just gone, but Outbreak gone. We can make

658
00:30:40,039 --> 00:30:43,079
this election fire set feel more exciting through the way

659
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,359
we're presenting it. Download isn't finding a way to make

660
00:30:46,359 --> 00:30:48,119
any of these sets more exciting. It's kind of just like,

661
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,880
let's just get all the big names in one place

662
00:30:51,519 --> 00:30:53,079
and let's you know, if people just want to, you know,

663
00:30:53,279 --> 00:30:55,400
just see the big names and they aren't too fussed

664
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,160
about the actual kind of excitement of the whole prospect.

665
00:30:58,799 --> 00:31:01,839
Download is offering that it's the WWE of music festivals.

666
00:31:01,839 --> 00:31:05,079
It's the biggest names, the biggest fancy shows. If people

667
00:31:05,079 --> 00:31:06,640
will happy with that, they will have a great time.

668
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,200
And I think that's fine. It serves that market. But

669
00:31:09,279 --> 00:31:13,119
if anyone looking to like engage on a deeper level.

670
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,000
I just don't think there's much here.

671
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't disagree. And then we move on to

672
00:31:18,279 --> 00:31:21,119
two thousand Trees, who, if you're sort of feeling similar

673
00:31:21,119 --> 00:31:23,799
way he's about download, maybe two thousand Trees are one

674
00:31:23,839 --> 00:31:25,720
of us. We've just highlighted there as being a potential

675
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,079
sort of you know, a festival that might be picking

676
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,680
up the kind of people who once did a download

677
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,519
and a sort of you know, being left in the

678
00:31:32,559 --> 00:31:34,640
cold by it. And two Trees have come through with

679
00:31:34,839 --> 00:31:37,920
a whole load of their bands for next year as well.

680
00:31:38,119 --> 00:31:41,839
There's one headliner on this, but there is a lot

681
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,559
of the bill of the other days as well, who

682
00:31:44,599 --> 00:31:47,720
haven't yet got their headliners announced. That one headliner that

683
00:31:47,759 --> 00:31:52,039
is announced for the Thursday is Alkaline Treer, which great stuff.

684
00:31:52,519 --> 00:31:54,119
I'm not familiar the top of my head if they've

685
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,160
headlined twosand Trees before. But that's the kind of you know,

686
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,440
mid tier rock band, shall we say, in terms of

687
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,680
their success and their size. Who aren't going to headline

688
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,279
another first of all, But when you get to see

689
00:32:06,359 --> 00:32:08,119
them doing you know, much like an excellent Fire or

690
00:32:08,119 --> 00:32:09,759
someone recently, when you get to see them doing a

691
00:32:09,839 --> 00:32:12,920
headline set at something like this, there is there's a

692
00:32:13,039 --> 00:32:16,119
really lovely vibe to that kind of occasion and around

693
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,720
it on the rest of the bill, Sam, what are

694
00:32:18,759 --> 00:32:21,240
the names that jump out to you in terms of

695
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,519
strength on the two thousand Trees poster?

696
00:32:24,039 --> 00:32:26,799
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think the Thursday lineup in general

697
00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:29,079
looks really strong when you can get to go Yeah,

698
00:32:29,319 --> 00:32:33,000
Alkalan Trio, Pup, Souper, Heaven, Scaled, the Dirty Nil Paul Kids.

699
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 3: That's a good kind of like clans Ef.

700
00:32:35,559 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: The Wednesday pre show again, you've got Puffing the Ditty

701
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,799
Hill doing other sets.

702
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:40,519
Speaker 3: That's really cool.

703
00:32:40,799 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 2: Canterbats always would see I think the Saturday again, the

704
00:32:43,319 --> 00:32:45,440
top line on the Saturday beneath the sort of headline

705
00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:49,079
CBA glasshob Yeah, two thousand trees for the first time,

706
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,440
Wicked booking Glass you have always been brilliant live and

707
00:32:52,559 --> 00:32:54,759
I think it's really cooled Sea Trees trying to pull

708
00:32:54,839 --> 00:32:57,440
them in. And then alongside Dinosaur Pilot, who I would

709
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,559
imagine we'll kind of get a hero's welcome at two

710
00:32:59,559 --> 00:33:01,640
thousand three is they They strike me as one of

711
00:33:01,759 --> 00:33:04,880
those sort of bands who are gonna be really gritted well.

712
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,720
And then Hives, who again I saw support in terms

713
00:33:08,759 --> 00:33:10,160
out they're on great life.

714
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 4: Form Trees would be fucking great.

715
00:33:12,039 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 2: I think that would be great. You've got like nothing

716
00:33:14,039 --> 00:33:16,480
on there. I am the avalanche back. That's really cool

717
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,200
to see. There's some good sort of pop punk stuff there.

718
00:33:18,519 --> 00:33:25,279
Kansabats on his book is highlighted meeting on the few

719
00:33:25,319 --> 00:33:27,880
people slag on battles twice, so.

720
00:33:30,519 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 3: I will admit I would. I hated it.

721
00:33:33,559 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 2: I saw everyone else having a great time. I get

722
00:33:36,319 --> 00:33:39,359
them being booked again. That that that makes sense. I

723
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,119
do think the Friday right now is kind of like

724
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,160
I don't know a lot of bands on the Friday,

725
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:45,359
which is why I don't want to slag it off

726
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:45,720
too much.

727
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 3: It does feel a bit weaker.

728
00:33:47,559 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 2: Kansabat's cool Saturday's at your Place are kind of one

729
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,359
of the like the emo bands them and free From

730
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,759
are kind of quite well regarded. Lambrini Girls gonna feel

731
00:33:54,759 --> 00:33:57,680
like a really kind of like very two thousand trees

732
00:33:57,759 --> 00:34:00,480
coded bands who will go down brilliantly. I mean like

733
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,839
that day will kind of hinge on how the headliner

734
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,799
pauls all together alongside when they announced. I'm guessing some

735
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,799
more of the heavier bands because that's what's kind of

736
00:34:07,839 --> 00:34:10,679
missing on the fridam I think right now. True, this

737
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,400
is a very kind of just like well rounded, delivering

738
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,119
what two thousand trees needs to deliver on lineup.

739
00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:21,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, And as said, of the three larger days,

740
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,000
two headliners TBA and so there will be much much

741
00:34:25,079 --> 00:34:28,880
curiosity and much trained eyes seeing what follows through there.

742
00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:33,159
And just to complete our load of festival announcements for

743
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,920
twenty twenty six here in the UK, Desert Fest have

744
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,559
completed their headliners as well, and they've had a lot

745
00:34:38,599 --> 00:34:42,000
more stuff on their green lung were you know, already

746
00:34:42,039 --> 00:34:44,480
been announced for headlining a UK festival for the first time,

747
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,039
which is fucking cool to see. Harmano are on there

748
00:34:47,079 --> 00:34:49,119
as well, who I'm not from actually familiar with. Desert

749
00:34:49,159 --> 00:34:51,880
Fest will always have some really high build bands where

750
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,280
I go, what is that? But they'll you know, they'll

751
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,800
have some big cult following somewhere. Clutch are the latest

752
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,719
added headliner, which is just a total slammed of exactly

753
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,639
what Deserfest should be, isn't it. Clutch plenty of desert

754
00:35:03,639 --> 00:35:06,760
Fest business on this lineup. Hallas have been Adam Laura

755
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,599
on there as well, who are kind of the prog

756
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,880
rock band. Their keyboardist is the guy I think. I'm

757
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,559
not saying he's the guy who's been playing with Blood

758
00:35:14,599 --> 00:35:17,360
Incantation doing all the keyboards on the absolutely elsewhere stuff,

759
00:35:17,639 --> 00:35:20,639
But I know Hallas are like a really, really quite

760
00:35:20,679 --> 00:35:23,679
revered at the moment kind of upcoming progressive rock band.

761
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:24,920
I think this might be one of their first times

762
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,400
in the UK, So quite a big snag from Deserfest

763
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,639
there in that regard. But yeah, loads of stuff at

764
00:35:30,679 --> 00:35:34,599
Desert Fest completing our bloody hell, I said, our yearly,

765
00:35:34,679 --> 00:35:36,559
we get here about this time every year and we

766
00:35:36,679 --> 00:35:38,639
just talk about every single festival and how they are

767
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,199
shaping up. But with all due respect to every one

768
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,760
of those festivals we have just spoken about, I'm sure

769
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,480
that a lot of you guys listening would agree that

770
00:35:45,639 --> 00:35:47,559
none of those are the big story of the week.

771
00:35:47,599 --> 00:35:50,719
The biggest story of the week is finally the musical

772
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:55,840
return of Marmazettes, where we have had so much teasing

773
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,599
and waiting and Marmozettes are in the studio, Marsette have

774
00:35:59,679 --> 00:36:02,280
got a record deal, Marmozettes are posting promo photos, all

775
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:06,400
of this stuff to finally get us to New Marmasette's

776
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,800
music after twenty eighteens. It was like February as well,

777
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,559
something early on in twenty eighteens. Knowing what you know now,

778
00:36:14,199 --> 00:36:17,039
we actually have Marmazet's music to be talking about. We

779
00:36:17,079 --> 00:36:18,559
don't have an album and outs right now, but if

780
00:36:18,559 --> 00:36:20,639
you are to read, for example, the Koran cover story

781
00:36:20,679 --> 00:36:22,280
they have out, it's clear that this is on an

782
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,199
album and an album will be coming in the new year.

783
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,800
We do have the first Marmozette single in all of

784
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,239
that time, and it's called a Kiss from a Mother.

785
00:36:33,559 --> 00:36:39,159
We also have the first Marmozette's UK tour since twenty eighteen.

786
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,519
It starts really soon. It starts on the first of

787
00:36:41,599 --> 00:36:44,719
December of this year, but it goes through over into

788
00:36:45,199 --> 00:36:48,039
January of next year, and it's doing quite a lot

789
00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:50,119
of dates. There's like more than ten dates on this

790
00:36:50,199 --> 00:36:51,920
poster here. The thing that jumps out of me from

791
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,159
the dates here is it's clear that Marmozette's, after so

792
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,639
much time away, they are playing at tentative when it

793
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,039
comes to the venues and what they are booking. These

794
00:37:01,159 --> 00:37:04,480
are for a band we you know, eight years ago

795
00:37:04,559 --> 00:37:06,800
we were talking about as like one of the most

796
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,199
central to the UK rock scene bands that we have,

797
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,599
it's clear that they are maybe trying to take it

798
00:37:12,599 --> 00:37:15,159
a little bit easy, try and build something back up

799
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,440
a little bit, rather than taking a plunge into taking

800
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,559
a punt on big venues when maybe in the last

801
00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:23,119
eight years, I mean, how many people have got into

802
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,519
rock music in the last eight years? No, what give

803
00:37:25,519 --> 00:37:27,880
a fuck about Marmozet's right, Like, I don't know, but

804
00:37:28,159 --> 00:37:31,119
doing some pretty small venues for a band like Marmosettes

805
00:37:31,159 --> 00:37:31,559
on this too.

806
00:37:32,159 --> 00:37:33,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think because when they left off, they were

807
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,679
doing like the Forum or what was where they kind

808
00:37:35,679 --> 00:37:39,480
of left off at so sizeable rooms And I think

809
00:37:39,519 --> 00:37:40,039
this makes sense.

810
00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 3: And you've been quite for so long the music scene

811
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,440
has changed.

812
00:37:43,039 --> 00:37:46,079
Speaker 2: So much, so kind of start back up and the

813
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,639
like if the demands that these shows sell out, then

814
00:37:48,679 --> 00:37:50,880
they kind of go, Okay, cool, we'll be back again

815
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,679
and they can rebuild up.

816
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 3: But I think smart moves kind of like go like

817
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:57,679
kind of build from the ground up again.

818
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean ding Walls in London. I've never been

819
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:01,920
to ding Wars. That's sort of sizable as that.

820
00:38:03,119 --> 00:38:06,159
Speaker 2: So I saw a couple of bands at Common Fred's

821
00:38:06,159 --> 00:38:09,800
there and it's about six hundred capacity. It's not like tiny,

822
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,400
probably a bit bigger than the Underworld, a bit smaller

823
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:16,000
than like between Underworld, like electric ballroom size, like six

824
00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:17,320
seven hundred people something like that.

825
00:38:18,039 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: Okay, but a Kiss from a Mother the first Mamzet

826
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,480
single from this, you know, returning era, this upcoming record

827
00:38:24,519 --> 00:38:26,920
and all of this from Marmozettes. I didn't really know

828
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,840
what to expect, you know, after all of that time.

829
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,960
You know, obviously a lot of the story around marmas

830
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,320
that's going away is that you know, two of the

831
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,079
members have had a child, and they are I'm sure

832
00:38:36,159 --> 00:38:38,360
in many ways they are such completely different people and

833
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,519
at different stages in their life than they were when

834
00:38:40,519 --> 00:38:43,280
they were last giving us music. So I didn't know

835
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,559
what to expect. Right when you press play on this

836
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,400
and the first thing you hear is this like western

837
00:38:49,599 --> 00:38:54,360
fucking guitar twang where it's full you know, Sergio Leoni

838
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,400
stuff going on. And that was like, Hey, what's going

839
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,039
on here? And I know that, you know, the kind

840
00:38:59,039 --> 00:39:01,360
of musical connection with the Artic Monkeys has always been

841
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,360
quite prevalent with with Marmozets and this for those first

842
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,159
few opening seconds, I was like, oh, man, are we

843
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,679
going to get our like tranquility, hotel based casino era

844
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:14,760
of marmasts But when it kicks in, it turns out

845
00:39:15,039 --> 00:39:20,000
Marmozettes are still fucking mad and electric as fuck. And

846
00:39:20,159 --> 00:39:24,039
after all of that time, I could not be more

847
00:39:24,039 --> 00:39:26,039
related to be saying in those particular words.

848
00:39:26,519 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 2: I genuinely was like, is that that spark that mad

849
00:39:31,159 --> 00:39:34,400
kind of like quirk that makes marmas they're like Becka,

850
00:39:34,559 --> 00:39:37,599
you know, she is such a one of a kind vocalist,

851
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,159
where like the way she sings her sort of like

852
00:39:41,039 --> 00:39:43,599
delivery of lines, even even once she's singing not just screaming,

853
00:39:43,679 --> 00:39:45,199
like she no one doing.

854
00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 3: It quite like her, And she is leaning into that.

855
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,760
She is being eccentric as.

856
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 2: Fucking s of the front of this song and it

857
00:39:52,159 --> 00:39:55,559
goes It's like it's one of the harder Marmozet's song,

858
00:39:55,679 --> 00:39:58,719
like maybe harder than anything off of the last album,

859
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,760
which again did kind of play out kind of more.

860
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 3: Like indie and dancing stuff.

861
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is like hard driven up and it's funny

862
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,559
because to point out it's by the person who produced

863
00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:10,360
the last Biby Piro album, which was like maybe a

864
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:10,840
bit of like a.

865
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 3: He's got the right right mixed for.

866
00:40:14,039 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 2: Marmazets here where they sound hungry and fired up and

867
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:22,360
it is. It's electrifying. I think, a really great first

868
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,800
kind of statement of kind of going like yeah, if

869
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,159
you were worried, no, no, no, we're still the band

870
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,679
that you you remember us being, and I'm I'm now

871
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,079
kind of like now that we've got off, I says,

872
00:40:31,119 --> 00:40:33,320
fit yep, strap me in for the Marmesets reunion.

873
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:34,119
Speaker 4: Yeah.

874
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,639
Speaker 1: I feel very similar where the promise of Marmetts was like, okay, cool,

875
00:40:37,639 --> 00:40:40,000
of course I'm interested, but what will it be. As

876
00:40:40,039 --> 00:40:42,480
soon as I heard this, I was just now, okay, oh,

877
00:40:42,519 --> 00:40:45,880
I'm actually now excited because I forgot how awesome it

878
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,320
is again after like eight years, just to have that

879
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:55,840
woman going aha at you over something absolutely live wire.

880
00:40:56,199 --> 00:40:58,199
There's there's bits on it where she's just kind of

881
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,079
view and just absolutely I mean losing whatever. There's parts

882
00:41:01,079 --> 00:41:03,880
where she's full on monster mashing, you know, the kind

883
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:08,920
of like her really really a huge compliment I could

884
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,039
say about this. Mamas At song is like many of

885
00:41:11,079 --> 00:41:12,920
the best mamas At song is something that you could

886
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,880
play to someone and they go fucking hell, this is

887
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,599
too much turn it off, and I can imagine particularly

888
00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:21,000
there's vocal ones from Becker being so like too excessive

889
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,920
for people who do not want their rock band to

890
00:41:24,079 --> 00:41:29,360
be quite this phonetic, and just the sheer intensity and

891
00:41:29,679 --> 00:41:33,800
unchained nature of that, which Becker has always done an

892
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,239
incredible job of, you know, like managing to wrangle into

893
00:41:37,559 --> 00:41:39,360
like a rock song you want to listen to, is

894
00:41:39,639 --> 00:41:45,079
just so alive on this in just such a brilliant way, superficial.

895
00:41:45,159 --> 00:41:48,039
But you know, they've always been a cool band, a

896
00:41:48,119 --> 00:41:50,159
cool looking band. And when I watched this video and

897
00:41:50,199 --> 00:41:52,280
I'm just like, ah, you're there, even though again you are,

898
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,159
I'm sure you are more mature and you're different whatever

899
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:55,679
than you were when you wa you were last here,

900
00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:00,840
But it looks like the same rad car rithmatic group

901
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,920
of people. Yeah, obviously particularly Becca at the four. When

902
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,079
you're watching that, it's like the same cool band Mamazettes

903
00:42:08,119 --> 00:42:10,079
that you knew and loved are here. And then when

904
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,239
the music gets going as well, it's like hard disco,

905
00:42:13,519 --> 00:42:16,480
like when it full on just starts going with this

906
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,119
kind of it's got an interesting reverbly production job where

907
00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:21,519
even Becker doesn't sound so like at the four in

908
00:42:21,639 --> 00:42:24,400
the way you know, a conventional rock mix would she's

909
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,760
like really wailing around in the sidelines and whatnot. But

910
00:42:27,079 --> 00:42:30,679
like that hard punk disco beat that they kick into.

911
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,960
I don't remember the last time that we had like

912
00:42:35,639 --> 00:42:37,320
a rock single rather than like a metal or a

913
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,559
hardko single, just a rock single that kind of just

914
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,960
immediately excited me and lit me up the way that

915
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,159
this one did, just on like one or two listens,

916
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,199
and I just think, what do you want from Marmozettes?

917
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,800
You want them to have that crackle in them, And

918
00:42:52,159 --> 00:42:56,960
after so much time being sidelined, I'm so happy that

919
00:42:57,559 --> 00:42:59,800
they clearly still do, at least in this song.

920
00:43:00,559 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, better that that crackle that does that X factor,

921
00:43:06,039 --> 00:43:08,199
that thing that just made them such an exciting prospect

922
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,719
back when they were breaking. It's still there, maybe slightly

923
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,960
different now, but it's not been sound in the way

924
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,039
they have not sanitized things, and that is just like

925
00:43:16,119 --> 00:43:19,199
a really exciting thing to sort of like put away

926
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,920
any nerves for what this union could have been.

927
00:43:22,119 --> 00:43:24,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, give us news on that album next year, but

928
00:43:24,119 --> 00:43:25,840
it's of course now one of the albums that we

929
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,000
will be most looking forward to in twenty twenty six.

930
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,360
Some more Niche off the Beaten Track festival news currently

931
00:43:32,559 --> 00:43:34,079
it's not in the UK, but things that I have

932
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,079
seen being announced this week and go what. First of all,

933
00:43:37,079 --> 00:43:40,639
there's a couple festivals in Europe where you know, Behemoth

934
00:43:40,679 --> 00:43:43,119
have being added to download festival. But there's two festivals

935
00:43:43,159 --> 00:43:44,719
currently in Europe. There's a sort of a weird pre

936
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,159
show thing at Vacan Festival and also now Beyond the Gates,

937
00:43:48,159 --> 00:43:50,079
which is the great black metal festival that happens in

938
00:43:50,119 --> 00:43:54,679
Norway where really weird Billingnrgyl from Behemoth has been announced

939
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:59,159
at these events to be playing the debut Behemoth albums

940
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:03,559
Fentevistor near the Baltic with not with Behemoth but with

941
00:44:03,679 --> 00:44:07,519
mis theming the incredible like one of my very favorite

942
00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:09,920
black metal bands in the world today, the Icelandic band.

943
00:44:10,159 --> 00:44:11,559
I would also just point out the record one of

944
00:44:11,559 --> 00:44:15,320
the most fiery live bands currently in black metal performing

945
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,760
with him as them as his backing band to do

946
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,519
the debut Behemoth album, which if you've ever heard debut

947
00:44:20,559 --> 00:44:24,400
Behemoth in the early nineties Behemoth, it's obviously it's it's

948
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,119
a world away from what Behemoth has been in you know,

949
00:44:27,519 --> 00:44:32,079
our time of doing this, but this immediately got a

950
00:44:32,159 --> 00:44:33,800
what out of me, not only because of you know,

951
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,760
mis Theerming is the backing band and that weird combination.

952
00:44:36,039 --> 00:44:37,519
I want to know how this happened. I want to

953
00:44:37,559 --> 00:44:42,400
know who sparked what conversation. Did Nurgle meet Miss Theming

954
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,639
at some black metal event and they just gush about

955
00:44:44,639 --> 00:44:46,199
how great centerth is and they went, you know what,

956
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,159
we'll play it. I don't know, but if wherever this

957
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,719
got booked, if it was in my vicinity, this would

958
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:54,800
be a must seat for me because I I fucking

959
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,000
love not in it, just fucking a Behemoth. But the

960
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,400
these are like like this is a class sick, cult

961
00:45:01,639 --> 00:45:03,880
black metal thing. If this would turn up at a

962
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,119
fortress or something like that, because it's kind of niche,

963
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,199
you know, But wherever this would be would be a

964
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,719
must see for me because like the idea of Nurgle

965
00:45:12,159 --> 00:45:16,159
playing Behemoth that is not currently represented Behemoth so much

966
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,920
with as I said, one of the best current black

967
00:45:19,039 --> 00:45:22,320
metal bands who are really fucking on it. As the

968
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,960
surrounding this is like really really exciting news. I want

969
00:45:26,039 --> 00:45:29,039
someone to bring this closer to home very much so.

970
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:33,519
And on that note, fucking hell fire in the Mountains Festival,

971
00:45:33,679 --> 00:45:36,559
which is the it's a really awesome looking festivals. One

972
00:45:36,559 --> 00:45:37,920
of the things was in the world right now that

973
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,159
I think I would most like to be, you know,

974
00:45:40,639 --> 00:45:43,559
picked up an air dropped somewhere, because it happens in

975
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,440
like it's it happens in like you know, the it's

976
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,039
basically the wild West, right It's in the West of America.

977
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,960
And I think some of the guys in Wayfair are

978
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,719
involved with like running and producing and whatnot, and they

979
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:58,199
always have really cool, interesting bookings with you know, you're

980
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:03,000
kind of a great more less field underground, extreme artisan

981
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,320
and what not playing this festival. And I know the

982
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:06,559
strings that must be pulled when I say that some

983
00:46:06,639 --> 00:46:08,360
of the Wayfairer guys have been involved with booking this

984
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:14,679
and whatnot. The legendary Denver, Colorado gothic country band sixteen

985
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,599
horse Power of all fucking bands. For the first time

986
00:46:17,599 --> 00:46:19,800
in like twenty years, they're playing what is build as

987
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,840
an exclusive US reunion show. And the wording of that

988
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,960
is very interesting to me because it's not exclusive reunion

989
00:46:27,039 --> 00:46:30,360
show that implies you're playing elsewhere, and maybe they'll just

990
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,440
play one in Canada. I don't know, maybe if they

991
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,480
were to appear anywhere in Europe, I would make a

992
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:38,760
punt and say the robu right, yeah, but sixteen Horsepower

993
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:39,440
are back.

994
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,639
Speaker 3: For at least for this which did this this like no,

995
00:46:43,119 --> 00:46:44,800
this is like it reminds me of you.

996
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,519
Speaker 1: Know, we did our Acid Bath album club and then

997
00:46:46,559 --> 00:46:48,280
a year later we were talking about like this really

998
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,280
cult thing, not many people know about it, and then

999
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:54,239
fucking a year later they're an enormous fucking arena rock band,

1000
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,639
but sixteen Horsepower being fucking But I'm so glad I

1001
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,239
put that album club in now, not only because such

1002
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:01,519
a great thing to talk about and I love that

1003
00:47:01,639 --> 00:47:05,360
record and I love this band, but holy shit, never anticipated.

1004
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 2: That, Yeah this will ida. I was like composing then

1005
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,599
double backs that wait what you know that that band

1006
00:47:10,639 --> 00:47:13,159
that we did an album club that were like really

1007
00:47:13,559 --> 00:47:15,920
like unique. I think that's a great book. And then again,

1008
00:47:16,119 --> 00:47:17,760
I don't know where if they would rock up in

1009
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,159
the UK, like it could happen, But I would like

1010
00:47:21,159 --> 00:47:23,840
to see some of these like again more boutique left

1011
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,800
field ukfest make a pun of them something like I

1012
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,760
know Fortress, Incineration or Damnation feel like they're kind of

1013
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,000
like closest spiritual homes sing in the UK or like

1014
00:47:32,039 --> 00:47:34,599
an arc tangent maybe like some of that I could

1015
00:47:34,599 --> 00:47:36,800
see kind of say this and maybe going we should

1016
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,920
put an offer out there and see what we get

1017
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:39,280
from it.

1018
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,559
Speaker 3: But yeah, that that Fire in the.

1019
00:47:41,559 --> 00:47:43,639
Speaker 2: Man festival feels like the sort of the perfect place

1020
00:47:43,679 --> 00:47:45,400
for them to make a comeback, doesn't it. It's like

1021
00:47:46,559 --> 00:47:49,320
so aligned with what the vibes of that band were.

1022
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,800
This is a really cool thing to happen.

1023
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't actually I don't predict them at any

1024
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,519
UK festal I don't know what one would be the

1025
00:47:56,599 --> 00:47:58,519
most apt for them, because obviously not being a UK

1026
00:47:58,679 --> 00:48:01,880
band they're following is stronger in their home region, which

1027
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,719
is where this is, like I said, anywhere in Europe.

1028
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,000
If they were to venture out, I think it'll probably

1029
00:48:06,119 --> 00:48:08,320
just be road burn. But just have that that sixteen

1030
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,480
horse power back is at least for some shows, it's

1031
00:48:11,519 --> 00:48:13,880
fucking mad. And yeah, well, like I said, we did

1032
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,039
an album club on them. If you are interested in

1033
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:21,000
your darker kind of Americana style of music, that band

1034
00:48:21,079 --> 00:48:23,639
are one of the best to ever ever do it.

1035
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,519
And obviously the people running Vire in the Mountains festival

1036
00:48:26,599 --> 00:48:28,400
clearly agreed and We're like, we need to fucking throw

1037
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,119
money at them to do something because fucking sixteen horse

1038
00:48:31,159 --> 00:48:35,079
power about absolutely crazy. A couple more album announcements, both

1039
00:48:35,119 --> 00:48:37,760
of these for February of twenty six Mayhem, who have

1040
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,239
been recording on for a while. Mayhem don't actually produce

1041
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,519
appms very regularly, so it's always kind of I'm always

1042
00:48:42,519 --> 00:48:45,760
interested when one's coming out. New Mayhem is coming in February,

1043
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,599
and there's also as you mentioned, Nothing have been added

1044
00:48:48,679 --> 00:48:50,760
to one of those festivals at two thousand Trees that they.

1045
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:51,679
Speaker 3: Are on Trees.

1046
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1047
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:56,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have got their new album, the first I

1048
00:48:56,119 --> 00:48:57,519
know they did that kind of co lab album with

1049
00:48:57,559 --> 00:48:59,000
like full of Hell, didn't they. But it's their first

1050
00:48:59,039 --> 00:49:01,679
like you know nothing just build album since twenty twenty

1051
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,840
that is coming out in February, A short History of Decay,

1052
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,480
long time actually away from from nothing. So yeah, I'm

1053
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,519
sure there'll be a lot of interest in that. Bear

1054
00:49:09,639 --> 00:49:12,079
Tooth are currently in the studio and it's being produced

1055
00:49:12,119 --> 00:49:14,320
with Jordan Fish. So bart Tooth is gonna suck if

1056
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,039
you are getting your hopes up for bear Tooth to

1057
00:49:16,519 --> 00:49:19,480
recover from the you know, the the flop that they

1058
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:20,079
did last time.

1059
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:21,599
Speaker 4: I wouldn't wouldn't put money on it.

1060
00:49:22,079 --> 00:49:24,679
Speaker 1: Iron Reagan are also back. Iron Reagan, the you know,

1061
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,559
crossover thrash band featuring members of Municipal Waste and whatnot.

1062
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,679
They went away for a few years. There were some

1063
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:34,519
kind of acrimonious circumstances surrounding Iron Megan Iron Reagan disappearing,

1064
00:49:34,599 --> 00:49:37,239
but they have reunited. Were kind of their first lp

1065
00:49:37,519 --> 00:49:41,400
eras lineup, and they've announced their first show of twenty

1066
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,159
twenty six over in the United States. Yeah, I always

1067
00:49:44,199 --> 00:49:46,159
liked Iron Reagan. I feel like everybody liked Iron Reagan,

1068
00:49:46,199 --> 00:49:49,039
you know, like it's hard to dislike, just in the

1069
00:49:49,079 --> 00:49:51,360
way that see everyone seems to like Unicipal Waste. I

1070
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,320
think even more Soca. It's a kind of slightly harder

1071
00:49:54,519 --> 00:49:56,199
everyone like Dan Reagan. So I'm just happy to see

1072
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,920
that Iron Reagan are back on the scene. And Sam,

1073
00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:02,800
I've put this in here for you. Baby Metal are

1074
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,760
doing a merch collab for the thirtieth anniversary of Resident Evil.

1075
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,239
Would you buy Baby Metal Resident Evil birch if it

1076
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:11,679
was cool?

1077
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I love Resident Evil. It's one of

1078
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,960
my favorite things. So like, see what's going from there.

1079
00:50:17,039 --> 00:50:20,199
But there's been like a bunch of these because it's

1080
00:50:20,199 --> 00:50:22,400
like a misfits Godzilla clab has been announced as well,

1081
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,920
and I'm like, what is with my favorite nerd things

1082
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,639
kind of messing up with with like rock bands and bands?

1083
00:50:27,679 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: I like, yeah, right, So let's get some questions in

1084
00:50:30,199 --> 00:50:32,360
last week. I hope you enjoyed last week. Our questions

1085
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,400
leaned towards the Halloween side of the spectrum. We had

1086
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,599
some kind of time to discuss some movies and what

1087
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:39,000
we might not always.

1088
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 4: Do here on the news.

1089
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,280
Speaker 1: Here are a few other questions that got dropped that

1090
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,840
are more fitting to be pulled for here. And so

1091
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,239
Emmy Lanio is gonna kick us off here and he says,

1092
00:50:48,519 --> 00:50:50,880
I'm not from the UK and I found about Creeper

1093
00:50:51,039 --> 00:50:53,239
in some obscure blog when they release their first EP

1094
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,400
back in the day. Times are different. I know, what

1095
00:50:55,599 --> 00:50:58,239
other hidden gems can you recommend from your country? So

1096
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,480
let's take this as you know, we are speaking to

1097
00:51:00,599 --> 00:51:04,320
people outside of the UK for this question. And so

1098
00:51:04,679 --> 00:51:07,400
maybe if there are bands that us here in the

1099
00:51:07,519 --> 00:51:09,920
UK are kind of, you know, familiar with, maybe you know,

1100
00:51:10,199 --> 00:51:11,480
regulars of the circuit or whatever.

1101
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,199
Speaker 4: But if we could just.

1102
00:51:13,199 --> 00:51:16,199
Speaker 1: Assume maybe people outside of our country do not know

1103
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,239
these bands as well? What would be the bands that

1104
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,360
you would say you should check out them, they should

1105
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,719
hopefully get a bit more of a lift outside of

1106
00:51:24,199 --> 00:51:24,719
our walls.

1107
00:51:25,559 --> 00:51:28,280
Speaker 2: I mean there's like a bunch of like hardcore milk

1108
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:29,960
bands I think in terms of like rock bands right

1109
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,199
now that people outside of the UK might.

1110
00:51:32,119 --> 00:51:34,519
Speaker 3: Not be aware that could like of un people feel

1111
00:51:34,559 --> 00:51:35,559
like a very kind of like.

1112
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:41,079
Speaker 2: Band Yeah Vow which obviously ex Palmood and Black Pigs,

1113
00:51:41,119 --> 00:51:42,320
like those are the kind of ones that are like,

1114
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,400
if you're into you more can like rock music, I

1115
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,239
would definitely throw those away. But then this, like if

1116
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,280
you like hardcore Dynamite that they feel like they're kind

1117
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,760
of like the UK hardcore band who are really doing cool,

1118
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,280
Like just kind of feel like a very cool prospect

1119
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,400
right now. Yeah, those are the sort ones that immediately

1120
00:52:01,639 --> 00:52:03,559
jumped out to me. And I'm sure you've probably have

1121
00:52:03,639 --> 00:52:07,239
some like more like metal eating things and again they'd

1122
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,079
probably like metal ones that would be like, oh.

1123
00:52:09,119 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd say them like yeah, it's an interesting.

1124
00:52:11,599 --> 00:52:15,519
Speaker 1: Question this because like the UK rock scene, I I

1125
00:52:15,679 --> 00:52:18,400
don't think it's as strong right now than it was

1126
00:52:18,519 --> 00:52:22,880
kind of circa twenty sixteen with the generation of Creeper,

1127
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,440
Milk Teeth, Black Peaks, and we've lost a lot of

1128
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,760
those great bands, and I for my taste at LEAs

1129
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,159
where I'm sitting the bands who've kind of come through

1130
00:52:30,199 --> 00:52:33,599
and replaced them, I don't find that generally quite as

1131
00:52:33,679 --> 00:52:36,039
compelling for me. I think Unpeople are the one that

1132
00:52:36,199 --> 00:52:38,079
clearly have the backing of lots of people in the

1133
00:52:38,199 --> 00:52:40,079
UK and are kind of pushing them to do that,

1134
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:44,000
so'd be interesting if that goes further slightly more. You know. Again,

1135
00:52:44,159 --> 00:52:46,199
if I'm thinking of staples of kind of the UK

1136
00:52:46,679 --> 00:52:49,599
heavy scene who maybe aren't as well known kind of

1137
00:52:49,679 --> 00:52:51,840
outside of it, I'd maybe say someone like Hidden Mothers

1138
00:52:52,679 --> 00:52:56,159
are doing that. Under Dark certainly Hidden Mothers are more

1139
00:52:56,199 --> 00:52:58,480
if you're like, you're kind of like screamo post artical stuff,

1140
00:52:58,599 --> 00:53:01,719
under Dark are your post black metal. But leaning into

1141
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,280
those charactors are influenced frong them, and I think the

1142
00:53:03,519 --> 00:53:06,960
last Underdog album is really strong. I'm sure they must

1143
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,639
have had some international touring going on by this stage,

1144
00:53:08,639 --> 00:53:10,719
but even someone like Earn maybe I think obviously they're

1145
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:15,119
following is primarily UK based, and if you like Big

1146
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:19,239
Riffy metal. I imagine ern could do with maybe a

1147
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,719
bit more you picking our listeners outside of the UK.

1148
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:24,800
I mean they've been they've been going for ages and

1149
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,079
they had a bad last album. But I still think

1150
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:33,199
right even like the excerpts internationally are absolutely not a

1151
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,000
property in the way they are in the UK. And

1152
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,599
you know, if you're looking for UK bands that you

1153
00:53:37,679 --> 00:53:39,880
might not have been put onto if you live outside

1154
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,119
of the UK and our media and whatnot, then go

1155
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,559
and check out There Is Only You and hold onto

1156
00:53:44,559 --> 00:53:46,960
your heart from the excerpts and they're They're fantastic in terms.

1157
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 4: Of more extreme ones.

1158
00:53:48,519 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess this is one I've said for years,

1159
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:51,960
but Voices I always think are like one of the

1160
00:53:52,079 --> 00:53:54,719
great black metal bands in the world that are primarily

1161
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,599
a UK fixture death metal wise, the one I'm really

1162
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,119
kind of thinking right now, at least in the love

1163
00:54:00,159 --> 00:54:03,079
to answer sorry is Vacuus, who I know, Like they

1164
00:54:03,159 --> 00:54:05,039
put out their album this year on Relapse there's some

1165
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,159
obviously a US label, but I still don't think they

1166
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:09,800
have kind of made the waves out, Like you know,

1167
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,159
they play shows a lot in the UK, but I

1168
00:54:11,159 --> 00:54:13,480
don't think they've made the waves that the really the

1169
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,760
popular trendy death metal bands that seem to get kind

1170
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,239
of augmented by the US circuit. Vacuous haven't had that,

1171
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,320
and I think Vacuous are you know, they deserve some

1172
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,360
of that. There's a kind of a collective of bands.

1173
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:26,920
That was one of the main things I thought about

1174
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,119
with this is if you like your kind of black

1175
00:54:29,199 --> 00:54:32,079
metal and heavy metal sort of you know, blend of stuff.

1176
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,760
There's a group of musicians based in Manchester who are

1177
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,119
all in a load of bands, and I would say

1178
00:54:38,199 --> 00:54:40,360
all of these right so Woad is their most kind

1179
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,639
of internationally recognized one. Wode the UK blacktal band. Again,

1180
00:54:43,639 --> 00:54:46,159
they've got records on twenty bucks, spin and whatnot. But

1181
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,679
I think they are one of the more interesting and

1182
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,320
unique and identifiable black metal bands in the world right now,

1183
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,840
despite the fact they are essentially a local band. To me,

1184
00:54:54,199 --> 00:54:57,039
those musicians are also in some other things where if

1185
00:54:57,119 --> 00:54:59,519
you like Unfortunately as band have now broken up, but

1186
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:01,800
to start this year, I would have said the band

1187
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,280
Heavy Sentence if you like New waver of British heavy metal,

1188
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,119
Heavy Sentence absolutely, I gain We're a staple of the

1189
00:55:07,199 --> 00:55:10,400
UK scene, but really one of the great bands of

1190
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,000
you know, the current generation globally, I think doing new

1191
00:55:13,039 --> 00:55:15,360
wave of British heavy metals type stuff and if you

1192
00:55:15,519 --> 00:55:19,159
like that, but scuzzier, more your venom speed metal, black

1193
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,960
thrash type thing. The band Aggressive Perfector that some of

1194
00:55:22,039 --> 00:55:24,360
those guys are in are again up there for me

1195
00:55:24,599 --> 00:55:27,079
with the Midnights and hell Rippers of the world. I

1196
00:55:27,119 --> 00:55:28,679
think they're really due in album. It's been quite a

1197
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:30,880
long time now, but Aggressive Profector one of the really

1198
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,679
cool sort of black speed metal type bands in the

1199
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,519
world that are again primarily sort of a fixture of

1200
00:55:37,079 --> 00:55:39,639
the UK scene. So I hope whatever your kind of

1201
00:55:40,159 --> 00:55:43,000
your general preference of kinds of music are, I hope

1202
00:55:43,039 --> 00:55:44,719
there's a name there that you might not have heard

1203
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:48,880
of that you can you know, jump onto. Chromode asks

1204
00:55:49,199 --> 00:55:52,039
what is the most personal hell gig you've ever been

1205
00:55:52,079 --> 00:55:56,159
to that can be quality of band overall experienced general

1206
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,360
backstory of attending, For example, seeing Creeper and Let Live

1207
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,599
in a crowd of Hawthorne Heights fans sounds pretty hellish.

1208
00:56:03,199 --> 00:56:05,000
And I guess this this question is almost like the

1209
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,400
you know, the the Devil to the Angle of last

1210
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,639
week's question we had about kind of particularly atmospherically perfect

1211
00:56:11,679 --> 00:56:13,840
shows where the stars aligned and everything was right for it.

1212
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,840
What are particularly maybe interesting sort of circumstances, I suppose,

1213
00:56:18,039 --> 00:56:20,880
what are the gigs you've been to, Sam where just

1214
00:56:21,199 --> 00:56:23,519
shit has not been right for it and you've gone,

1215
00:56:23,599 --> 00:56:24,920
oh God, why am I here? Yet?

1216
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 4: Me out of it?

1217
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 2: Anytime there's been like a hardcore band with a kind

1218
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,599
of like non hardcore crowd and it's just kind of

1219
00:56:32,679 --> 00:56:36,760
like turned into this mess of like people wanting to hardle,

1220
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,239
people want to push it, and everyone just kind of

1221
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,960
having a bad time, and it just ever moment that

1222
00:56:41,039 --> 00:56:43,960
that feels go to one like it was when I

1223
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,360
saw like the Ghost inside supporting asking Alexandria fucking years ago,

1224
00:56:47,559 --> 00:56:49,599
and like there was people with every ghost out and

1225
00:56:49,599 --> 00:56:52,000
it just was like almost friends like splin into a

1226
00:56:52,119 --> 00:56:54,679
fight because of like the two vibes of the card

1227
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,119
just not going going well together. There weren't many that

1228
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,920
that jumped out for me, as I will always kind

1229
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,280
of like find the best in a sort of gig

1230
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,199
I'm at, Like again, when like the Let Live Creeper

1231
00:57:07,559 --> 00:57:10,719
Swam five again. We've said many times I was that

1232
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:14,239
that ten years ago when it was pierced about and

1233
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,440
I still had a good time watching those bands. I

1234
00:57:17,519 --> 00:57:20,079
think the only of me where like this gig should

1235
00:57:20,079 --> 00:57:23,079
have been perfect and it was a miss. Wax Minths

1236
00:57:23,239 --> 00:57:26,880
was years ago. It would have been like twenty fourteen.

1237
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 3: I want to say. I was supposed to see Killswitch

1238
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,639
Engage and Hate Breed at the Garage in London, which

1239
00:57:32,719 --> 00:57:35,360
is like a six hundred capacity venue. Yeah, and it

1240
00:57:35,679 --> 00:57:39,760
just had horrific delays where I did.

1241
00:57:40,039 --> 00:57:42,639
Speaker 2: I had to leave before kill Switch played because of

1242
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,559
like the delays to what was going on and everything

1243
00:57:45,599 --> 00:57:49,280
that could have gone wrong basically went wrong with this gig.

1244
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,000
And I was hoping they were great, but it was

1245
00:57:51,079 --> 00:57:54,079
kind of like it's eleven o'clock in Kiltitch Games haven't

1246
00:57:54,119 --> 00:57:57,400
come on stage yet because of everything going wrong in

1247
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,199
I was and it was good. It was like this

1248
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,320
should have been like a perfect sort of moment of

1249
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,360
me seeing two bands I love in a tiny venue

1250
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,360
turning into well I got to watch Hate Breed.

1251
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: I guess.

1252
00:58:07,239 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1253
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 1: I've had a couple of those where there's been you know,

1254
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,400
delays and whatnot. Things I haven't run as they should be.

1255
00:58:12,039 --> 00:58:15,639
In terms of I say, personal hell environments. I think

1256
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:17,559
sometimes people tell sories of like, oh, I went to

1257
00:58:17,599 --> 00:58:19,559
reading festa with my mates or whatever and we saw this,

1258
00:58:19,639 --> 00:58:22,280
And I never really had that because I never got

1259
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:25,119
dragged to shows so much because in my kind of

1260
00:58:25,719 --> 00:58:28,159
immediate peer group, I suppose I was always when I

1261
00:58:28,199 --> 00:58:30,719
was younger, I was always quite isolated when it came

1262
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,519
to sharing music taste and whatnot. So for most of

1263
00:58:33,599 --> 00:58:35,639
my time going to shows, I was, you know, I

1264
00:58:35,719 --> 00:58:38,760
was a solo giger or then making friends who you know,

1265
00:58:39,159 --> 00:58:41,039
go to those same kind of shows. So I got

1266
00:58:41,199 --> 00:58:44,519
dragged things that are like really out of like I

1267
00:58:44,599 --> 00:58:48,840
should not fucking be here so much. A few environments

1268
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,960
where I guess are the closest thing to them is

1269
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:56,199
there's always if there's a disconnecting enjoying where you're watching something,

1270
00:58:56,239 --> 00:59:00,440
maybe at a festival, where there's a disconnect in how

1271
00:59:00,559 --> 00:59:02,639
much you are enjoying it compared to how much everyone

1272
00:59:02,679 --> 00:59:05,159
else is enjoying it, particularly if that is the kind

1273
00:59:05,199 --> 00:59:07,800
of negative in first where you are really not enjoying

1274
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:11,199
something and the people around you are going mad for it,

1275
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,920
and that maybe it kind of you know, involves some

1276
00:59:14,119 --> 00:59:16,039
level of like Jesus Christ, what are you all doing.

1277
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,519
There's a few occasions like that that spring to mind.

1278
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,360
One is when I went to download in twenty nineteen

1279
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,519
and I went to watch I Prevail out of some

1280
00:59:25,719 --> 00:59:28,760
kind of like again journalistic interest. I was there on

1281
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:30,280
press and I was like, I'm going to you know,

1282
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,639
we reviewed the Eye Prevail album. I'm going to see

1283
00:59:32,639 --> 00:59:34,960
what this is like. And it was just dog shit.

1284
00:59:35,199 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 4: But the you know, the.

1285
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,519
Speaker 1: Download crowd there was like really really into it. I

1286
00:59:38,639 --> 00:59:40,639
was just like, Jesus, this is depressing. And I still think,

1287
00:59:40,679 --> 00:59:42,360
you know, Ryan Defraters who went with me that year,

1288
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:44,800
he beat me that year because I think he told

1289
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:46,719
a story where he like he hurt his foot and

1290
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,199
then had to sit in the tent watching Palais Royal.

1291
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 4: Which does sound like a personal hell.

1292
00:59:53,199 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: And also the couple of years I've been to two

1293
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,679
thousand Trees, right, two thousand Trees is a great festival.

1294
00:59:58,280 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 4: I love it there.

1295
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:02,039
Speaker 1: It's fantastic. There's always great stuff. But I have seen

1296
01:00:02,079 --> 01:00:04,159
some ship there, right, it does happen. And there was

1297
01:00:04,199 --> 01:00:06,360
a couple of years in a row where bads like

1298
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:10,239
Young Guns and Mallory Knocks were like inescapable there. And

1299
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,920
there was one year where I watched because I was

1300
01:00:13,039 --> 01:00:14,760
you know, with people who did want to watch it.

1301
01:00:15,519 --> 01:00:18,480
I watched Young Guns into Mallory Knocks in one of

1302
01:00:18,519 --> 01:00:21,719
the tents, and both of these bands the right time,

1303
01:00:22,039 --> 01:00:24,000
but both of these bands right after the other did

1304
01:00:24,039 --> 01:00:26,360
a jump the fuck up where Armed.

1305
01:00:26,239 --> 01:00:26,719
Speaker 4: Guns did it?

1306
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 1: And I was like no, And then Mallory Knocks immediately

1307
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:32,440
after them did the same thing, and I was like,

1308
01:00:32,519 --> 01:00:33,239
you fuck.

1309
01:00:34,599 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 3: Mallory Knocks on? Can you jump?

1310
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: Would it shock you to learn? I did not remember

1311
01:00:40,079 --> 01:00:44,559
what song it was, but just a general thing. But

1312
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:46,719
but that one too is maybe the most like fucking hell,

1313
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:48,800
what is going on here? I told the story earlier

1314
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:50,320
this year when I was at Mystic Festival and there

1315
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,360
was this like horrible gush of rain, like absolute torents

1316
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,239
at one point, and then we went into the tiniest

1317
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:58,760
venue to see arch Goat and uh, the the like

1318
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,280
temperature switch from the outside to somebody being in the

1319
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:05,000
most cramped warm everyone had gotten inside tiny venue and

1320
01:01:05,519 --> 01:01:07,880
the water that everyone had been drenched with was just

1321
01:01:08,079 --> 01:01:13,119
immediately evaporating off everyone while watching like the really stinky,

1322
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,840
ignorant black metal but it just it got so like

1323
01:01:17,719 --> 01:01:20,840
so much condensation just melting off for people. It was

1324
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,039
genuinely like, you know, archgat was fun, but like the

1325
01:01:24,119 --> 01:01:27,280
experience was genuinely quite horrid. And then I've been to

1326
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:29,159
a couple of shows where like I've been traveling and

1327
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,719
like I've gone to shows where like most of my

1328
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:33,159
fucking belongings.

1329
01:01:32,679 --> 01:01:35,039
Speaker 4: Like in a big coke or something.

1330
01:01:35,559 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 1: There was one where I was there at a show

1331
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,599
I had like fucking like my toothbrush and shit in

1332
01:01:40,679 --> 01:01:43,519
a big coat inside way in the pockets. And then

1333
01:01:44,239 --> 01:01:46,679
the bus I was meant to get back afterwards got

1334
01:01:46,719 --> 01:01:49,039
delayed for like hours and hours, so I was there

1335
01:01:49,119 --> 01:01:51,280
fucking out in the street at like three four am,

1336
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,440
after shy, waiting for a bus to turn up. And

1337
01:01:53,559 --> 01:01:57,000
then this guy appeared and he was like asking me

1338
01:01:57,199 --> 01:01:59,440
if I've been at a Netwill show, And basically it

1339
01:01:59,519 --> 01:02:01,559
was just kind of the punishing guy where it turned

1340
01:02:01,559 --> 01:02:03,880
out to I'm waiting at a bus stop, it's fucking

1341
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,239
four am, I've got a coat with like my fucking

1342
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,679
like socks inside it, and this guy just here naming

1343
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:13,679
metal bands, being like Exodus, eh, yeah, yeah, they're good,

1344
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:17,199
and they're just awkward silence for a while, and then

1345
01:02:17,599 --> 01:02:20,599
fucking oh death Angel, yeah yeah yeah, just name it

1346
01:02:20,639 --> 01:02:23,840
and I just cannot escape. So those are some environments

1347
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:28,559
that bring to mind. And finally, Marda Girtle asks best

1348
01:02:28,679 --> 01:02:32,079
and worst sequel albums in honor of Sanga War two.

1349
01:02:32,239 --> 01:02:34,719
So yeah, obviously sangua War two came out last week.

1350
01:02:35,079 --> 01:02:37,079
We haven't like shared our opinions on it because we

1351
01:02:37,119 --> 01:02:39,159
are going to be coming around to reviewing it very soon.

1352
01:02:40,119 --> 01:02:42,519
So the albums that I would maybe compare to sangle

1353
01:02:42,599 --> 01:02:44,599
War two, I suppose we can leave for them, but

1354
01:02:45,079 --> 01:02:47,800
I guess yeah, the sequel album phenomenon, there's two sort

1355
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,760
of denominations we can separate this into. There are the

1356
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:56,599
one two punch immediately of volumes that are maybe more

1357
01:02:56,679 --> 01:03:00,199
deliberately designed in a certain way. So sangu War one

1358
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:03,679
and two has been, you know, fairly immediate. That's your load, reload,

1359
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:07,719
that's your use your illusions, Bathory Nordland one and two.

1360
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,679
Keep with the Seven Keys Part one and two, which

1361
01:03:10,719 --> 01:03:12,519
is the latter of that is the rare example of

1362
01:03:12,599 --> 01:03:15,199
the part two that generally gets mentioned and highlighted more

1363
01:03:15,239 --> 01:03:18,519
than the part one does. And then you have the

1364
01:03:19,079 --> 01:03:22,400
sequel years down the line of someone like having made

1365
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,280
a classic album and then trying to do a kind

1366
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,519
of return to it, And the first one that brings

1367
01:03:27,519 --> 01:03:30,039
to mind for me is, bizarrely it's Abigail two by

1368
01:03:30,119 --> 01:03:32,199
King Diamond, even though I don't feel that strongly about it,

1369
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,400
it's just alway the one I associate with it, or

1370
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:38,039
like Welcome to My Nightmare by Alice Cooper, which are

1371
01:03:38,039 --> 01:03:42,079
the examples of like twenty to forty years later fucking

1372
01:03:42,559 --> 01:03:45,119
turning up and trying to write a classic album. You know,

1373
01:03:45,679 --> 01:03:47,599
they're not as only bad albums, but like, of course

1374
01:03:48,079 --> 01:03:50,119
it's not going to be as good as.

1375
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 4: It once was.

1376
01:03:52,239 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 1: Sam sequel albums in terms of those two denominations. I

1377
01:03:55,599 --> 01:03:57,599
was just talking about the immediates and then that, oh god,

1378
01:03:57,639 --> 01:03:59,480
picking up years down the line, are.

1379
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,199
Speaker 3: We counting like the second half of a double album?

1380
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 2: Like even if it's like you know, if it was

1381
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:06,159
always intended to be a double album or is it

1382
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:07,840
or is this the yeah?

1383
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 1: Not not not really, I mean depends on the release schedule,

1384
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:15,559
I suppose, I mean, like the out of Hell's to

1385
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:18,559
two and three or whatever however many it might be.

1386
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hell Too is.

1387
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 2: Like generally considered pretty good, and then I can't remember

1388
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,800
much about three. I don't think like ones that where like, well,

1389
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:30,039
doubts are like they're doing part two of an album.

1390
01:04:30,119 --> 01:04:32,000
Like again, there's a lot of prog bands where I'm like,

1391
01:04:32,119 --> 01:04:33,239
you've done part two of an album that.

1392
01:04:33,239 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 3: I don't like. Like I was like, I'm not going

1393
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,440
to say that Colors to Buy Between the Buried and

1394
01:04:37,519 --> 01:04:38,119
Me is like.

1395
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 1: Well, between the They've actually got both of these examples

1396
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,840
because they had Parallax one and two and then Colors two,

1397
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,360
which came years after the original Colors, and I think

1398
01:04:47,239 --> 01:04:49,519
personally I would say that the two Parallaxes are more

1399
01:04:49,559 --> 01:04:51,519
comparable in quality than the two Colors, which are like

1400
01:04:51,559 --> 01:04:52,280
two decades apart.

1401
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:52,719
Speaker 4: So there's the.

1402
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:54,559
Speaker 1: Example of a band who have done both. I mean

1403
01:04:54,679 --> 01:04:56,480
the thrice album that we spoke about.

1404
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:57,719
Speaker 3: That that's what I was about to shout out.

1405
01:04:58,119 --> 01:05:01,639
Speaker 2: Horizons West is probably one of my favorite Seaqual albums.

1406
01:05:01,679 --> 01:05:04,079
Speaker 3: I can feel recently where I didn't like again Horizons.

1407
01:05:04,119 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 2: This is probably one of my lesser Fries albums, and

1408
01:05:06,039 --> 01:05:08,400
I think Horizons West is fucking great. So that like

1409
01:05:08,719 --> 01:05:11,159
because they have you know, the Alchemy Index as a

1410
01:05:11,239 --> 01:05:14,519
double album, but then this one is kind of not

1411
01:05:14,599 --> 01:05:15,559
intend to be a double album.

1412
01:05:15,559 --> 01:05:17,679
Speaker 3: But you've got a sequel album.

1413
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 2: There are more kind of like I guess Stinkers of

1414
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:22,639
Seagle albums that kind of spring to mind, like Alice

1415
01:05:22,719 --> 01:05:26,880
Cooper's Welcome to My Nightmare. That was like a bad

1416
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:30,119
idea that you're doing a follow up to a classic album.

1417
01:05:30,599 --> 01:05:31,639
However many years later.

1418
01:05:32,119 --> 01:05:33,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a niche one.

1419
01:05:33,159 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 1: But one of the better ones I think is Natmistium's

1420
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,000
Black Metal one and two. But again, they came kind

1421
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:39,519
of fairly swiftly on their heels in terms of like

1422
01:05:39,679 --> 01:05:42,559
the break and then doing something I actually do, like

1423
01:05:42,639 --> 01:05:45,360
hell Billy Deluxe two by Rob Zombie. Well enough, it's

1424
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:47,199
not you know, it's not Helly Deluxe one, But I'm

1425
01:05:47,239 --> 01:05:49,159
not judging all that merit really, I'm just judging it

1426
01:05:49,159 --> 01:05:51,519
as a Rob Zombie album. I think it's it does

1427
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:53,719
fundamentally the things I would like a Rob Zombie.

1428
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 4: Album to do.

1429
01:05:54,599 --> 01:05:57,159
Speaker 1: And obviously these were meant to come out pretty side

1430
01:05:57,199 --> 01:05:58,880
by side, but then we ended up having twelve years

1431
01:05:58,920 --> 01:05:59,480
in between them.

1432
01:05:59,599 --> 01:06:01,559
Speaker 4: But Ty two I thought was great.

1433
01:06:01,639 --> 01:06:05,159
Speaker 1: Time Time too was in my gat yeah albums the

1434
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:07,440
list I like Time two, Time two is great. And

1435
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:09,239
then he got into song sequels of course, and you

1436
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:11,920
get tears don't fall apart two and Let's go, Let's

1437
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:13,760
go again, and then a whole different kettle fish opens up.

1438
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:15,519
But yeah, there's a few examples, I suppose, and we

1439
01:06:15,559 --> 01:06:17,920
will of course be reviewing sangle Wore two in the

1440
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:22,639
upcoming T and M Reviews show. So we also this

1441
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:27,480
week have finished and polished off our Nola Sludge Special

1442
01:06:27,599 --> 01:06:30,880
New Orleans Sludge over on the That's Not Metal Patreon.

1443
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:34,239
It is the biggest special that we have undertaken this year,

1444
01:06:34,599 --> 01:06:36,559
Like when it came to the real sprawling, We've got

1445
01:06:36,559 --> 01:06:39,519
a lot of information to wrangle here, because we essentially

1446
01:06:39,599 --> 01:06:42,639
what this was was like several band specials in one

1447
01:06:43,159 --> 01:06:45,679
and then when it came to all of the stuff

1448
01:06:45,719 --> 01:06:47,280
that's kind of happening in and around the scene and

1449
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:49,920
the the outlying bands and the events that happened to it.

1450
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,920
And having undertaken that, I said, the biggest thing we've

1451
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,960
done this year, we've now got you know, several hours

1452
01:06:57,039 --> 01:07:02,719
worth together of these two parts really examining the trajectory

1453
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:07,400
of like all of these great legendary bands. This second

1454
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,480
part we just put out tracks these bands going into

1455
01:07:10,639 --> 01:07:13,440
the twenty first century and New Orleans. I'm sure if

1456
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:15,400
I say this, I know what you guys know what

1457
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:19,000
I mean. New Orleans went through some fucking stuff in

1458
01:07:19,119 --> 01:07:23,840
the twenty first century and examining our bands kind of

1459
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:27,239
part in that and how it impacted their trajectory and

1460
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:29,119
the art they produced on the outside of it, and

1461
01:07:29,199 --> 01:07:31,400
then following through to the present day. Like I said,

1462
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:34,360
almost like several band specials in one. But I am

1463
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:36,800
this was a special that I had been kind of

1464
01:07:37,199 --> 01:07:39,880
sitting on and thinking and planning for a few years,

1465
01:07:40,039 --> 01:07:42,000
and like a lot of stuff happened in those few years,

1466
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:44,360
like fucking acid Bass Reunion and whatnot that like wasn't

1467
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:47,440
there when we were kind of germinating the seeds of this,

1468
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:51,559
But now it's all out there. I'm very I'm very pleased,

1469
01:07:51,559 --> 01:07:53,719
and I'm very happy that we've kind of knocked that

1470
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:58,920
one out because I think it does offer a brilliant

1471
01:07:59,199 --> 01:08:03,639
guide and a step into, if you're interested, the colorful

1472
01:08:03,719 --> 01:08:08,079
world of Louisiana sludge that produced sam some of the

1473
01:08:08,599 --> 01:08:11,519
great bands in their kind of subset of all times,

1474
01:08:11,559 --> 01:08:13,000
some of the most legendary names.

1475
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 4: I hope we were talking.

1476
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that that that core collective group of

1477
01:08:17,039 --> 01:08:21,119
bands is like proper like you go like this, many

1478
01:08:21,119 --> 01:08:23,960
bands come from one area, Like you just don't you

1479
01:08:24,039 --> 01:08:26,760
don't see that anymore, Like and like one site kind

1480
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:29,680
of going like, yeah, we're producing the best bands in

1481
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:33,119
a particular genre, and they are they're organ to be classics,

1482
01:08:33,159 --> 01:08:35,560
and they're going to form a supergroup that released classic music.

1483
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:38,239
There is a story to this, and that'sually one of

1484
01:08:38,279 --> 01:08:39,960
things I made this specially great is there is a

1485
01:08:40,279 --> 01:08:42,960
story to the entire kind of like to in a

1486
01:08:43,039 --> 01:08:47,399
bit decades, like three decades where we cover of like music.

1487
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:50,239
It really is like a great things gone and so

1488
01:08:50,359 --> 01:08:53,279
many albums I've listened to alms. I've rediscovered my love

1489
01:08:53,359 --> 01:08:55,199
for albums I kind of didn't know I loved and

1490
01:08:55,279 --> 01:08:58,039
have kind of now fallen for just a really great time.

1491
01:08:58,399 --> 01:09:00,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you say, however, many decad is like

1492
01:09:00,279 --> 01:09:02,159
this second part we've just done is about twenty five

1493
01:09:02,239 --> 01:09:06,399
years worth of history. And obviously, you know, bands like

1494
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:10,479
down involved, there are controversies there that we just I'm

1495
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:12,479
just saying we do not shy away from those. We

1496
01:09:13,279 --> 01:09:16,520
try and get into how you know, what are the

1497
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,840
pros and cons I suppose of like being heavily invested,

1498
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,439
and I seemed like they've never scene in twenty twenty five,

1499
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:26,119
but Down and I Hate God and Crowbar and Corrosion

1500
01:09:26,159 --> 01:09:28,680
Conformity and Acid Bath and the bands have come out

1501
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:31,159
of Acid Bath like goa Or and Agents of Oblivion,

1502
01:09:31,199 --> 01:09:33,840
And we were talking about Soilent Green and it is.

1503
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,479
It's one of the most I think synonymous with the

1504
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:39,199
sitting scenes in the entirety of heavy music, which is

1505
01:09:39,239 --> 01:09:42,119
why we really wanted to get into it and kind

1506
01:09:42,159 --> 01:09:44,800
of tackle it in that way. But following all of

1507
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:48,079
those bands and giving you the guide in terms of

1508
01:09:48,159 --> 01:09:51,520
their catalogs, the stronger albums, the alums, we you should

1509
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:54,560
start that kind of thing, following through trying to see

1510
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:56,560
what are the bands in you know, later gneras that

1511
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,159
I have kind of inherited that crown, What are the

1512
01:09:58,159 --> 01:09:59,920
bands who have picked up and run with it? Where

1513
01:10:00,119 --> 01:10:02,000
have the you know, the kind of ripples of Nola

1514
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:04,760
gone to. It was, like I said, it was a

1515
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,960
big undertaking, but it's one that we had a lot

1516
01:10:08,039 --> 01:10:10,520
of fun doing and in terms of one of the

1517
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:14,560
all time great scenes and cities for big rifts. If

1518
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:16,720
you're listening to us, that's what you like, right, So

1519
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,359
you've got to get involved with those bands, and we

1520
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:21,479
have the perfect guide for you in the form of

1521
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:23,880
our Nola' slud special which we completed this week that

1522
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:27,319
is available at patreon dot com slash That's not now.

1523
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:30,439
Let's end this with, as we always do, the releases.

1524
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:33,960
So first week of November here, we've got our releases.

1525
01:10:34,039 --> 01:10:36,359
November the seventh, let us start.

1526
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:36,800
Speaker 4: Let's go.

1527
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 1: We've got Draine have got their new album called Dot

1528
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:42,319
Dot Dot is Your Friend. Draine is your Friend, I suppose,

1529
01:10:42,399 --> 01:10:46,720
the hardcore crossover band, another of the more popular heavy

1530
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:49,000
hardcore bands of the moment. They've got a new album out.

1531
01:10:49,039 --> 01:10:52,159
There's also here in the UK Pupil Slicer coming with

1532
01:10:52,319 --> 01:10:54,600
a third album. One of the most kind of the

1533
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:58,479
leading lights of contemporary mathcore and whatnot. Their new album

1534
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:02,119
flesh Work is out there. Also Astronoid, who are a

1535
01:11:02,279 --> 01:11:06,119
really interesting niche band but I think really have something

1536
01:11:06,399 --> 01:11:08,960
unique to offer the general landscape at the moment of

1537
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:11,680
They kind of came from the post black metal world,

1538
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:16,039
but they've turned into just a generally progressive melodic band.

1539
01:11:16,119 --> 01:11:17,960
We've reviewed them in the past. Their new album is

1540
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:20,760
called Star God and that is out now. There's also

1541
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:24,319
a self tattled album from set It Off equally ambitious

1542
01:11:24,359 --> 01:11:27,840
and far reaching. I'm sure, Sam. Have you been keeping

1543
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:30,239
up on the set Off story? Have they been away?

1544
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:31,560
Is this just business as usual?

1545
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:32,039
Speaker 4: Who knows?

1546
01:11:32,119 --> 01:11:33,239
Speaker 3: I have no idea.

1547
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:36,560
Speaker 2: We again there that one hour and twenty fourteen that

1548
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:39,800
I had. What it's anything that's happened in the ten

1549
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:40,359
years since?

1550
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:42,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's a self tattled album. So maybe

1551
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:46,800
they've got something to to prove, maybe something to compensate

1552
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:50,640
for the godfathers of New York hardcore Agnostic Front. Have

1553
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:53,520
they got an album out called Echoes in Eternity and

1554
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:56,640
a newer band or in those lines of kind of

1555
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:59,439
heavy crossover thrash, maybe a death thrash, that kind of stuff.

1556
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:03,119
There's about Cold Steel with an album called Discipline and Punish.

1557
01:12:03,359 --> 01:12:04,840
Then there's quite a lot out of the more sort

1558
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:09,640
of doom and more chin strokey heavy underground world. I

1559
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:13,000
suppose there's The Devil's Trade, who are a Hungarian kind

1560
01:12:13,039 --> 01:12:16,720
of folk ish doom band. I suppose you would call them.

1561
01:12:17,079 --> 01:12:20,520
They've got a record that has a Hungarian title, Drowned

1562
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:23,319
in Silver, who are a Polish kind of a cult

1563
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:28,439
rockish gothic rockish band called Mothers Their album is called Mothers.

1564
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:31,960
Then there is the long running Scandinavian melo death band

1565
01:12:32,079 --> 01:12:34,920
Omnium Gatherum. They've got an album called Major Bridges We

1566
01:12:35,039 --> 01:12:38,840
Burn Light the Way, and a gothic doom band from

1567
01:12:39,039 --> 01:12:41,800
Europe November are back with first album quite a long time,

1568
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:45,560
I think about nine years, Words of Indigo. Then Swedish

1569
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:48,319
death metal Centerex with Guts and Glory, so that is

1570
01:12:48,399 --> 01:12:50,800
for if you like Swedish style you know what I mean.

1571
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:55,680
Chainsaw Ish death metal from the US featuring members of

1572
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:57,920
bands like Woe and Whatnot. There is a newer death

1573
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:01,439
metal band also called Glorious Gravity, with a record called

1574
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:05,039
Death Never Sleeps. And slam brutal death metal Slammy Stuff,

1575
01:13:05,399 --> 01:13:06,840
a band I used to listen to back when I

1576
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:09,079
was more involved with the Slam Stuff, are back with

1577
01:13:09,159 --> 01:13:12,600
their first round about ten years called Dysentery, with the

1578
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:17,439
album is called Dejection Chrysalis. Last week the post black

1579
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:20,800
metal band from the US, Yellow Eyes Surprise, dropped a record,

1580
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:23,399
so that's out. It's called Confusion Gait. This week again

1581
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:27,960
the band Vulgar Fluster, German band I think they have

1582
01:13:28,119 --> 01:13:30,880
got two records out called Knock and just hung one

1583
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:32,960
and two. It's hard work being a black metal fan

1584
01:13:33,079 --> 01:13:34,720
who speaks English.

1585
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:35,199
Speaker 4: It is hard work.

1586
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, they're kind of more European, kind of I think,

1587
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:44,000
kind of leftist in politics leaning black metal band. They've

1588
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:46,239
played Fortress and whatnot. I think that they've got two

1589
01:13:46,359 --> 01:13:50,840
albums out, kind of twin albums, and the really nasty

1590
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,560
in the depths of extreme metal band cricks Core have

1591
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,439
got an album called The Womb of the World. Prime Ordial,

1592
01:13:56,600 --> 01:14:00,279
the Irish fantastic heavy, black doom, whatever you want to

1593
01:14:00,279 --> 01:14:03,319
call them, just one of the great bands ever. Primordial,

1594
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:05,439
I've got a live album out called Live in New

1595
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:07,920
York City. I think this is the same audio from

1596
01:14:08,039 --> 01:14:10,720
like this set got uploaded a while ago and I

1597
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:12,840
watched it and it was fucking great. So if you

1598
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:15,800
are not, for example, seeing Primordial Damnation first for this weekend,

1599
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:17,079
then you have an itch of like I need to

1600
01:14:17,079 --> 01:14:19,359
hear some Primordial live stuff. Then they have a live

1601
01:14:19,359 --> 01:14:21,119
album out, and then there are a couple of EPs.

1602
01:14:21,359 --> 01:14:24,720
One comes from a band called Recollection, who feature members

1603
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:27,159
of hardcore bands such as Haywire, for example, are involved

1604
01:14:27,199 --> 01:14:29,399
with Recollection, but they're playing more of a kind of

1605
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:32,239
a Heartland rocky type sound. I guess you would say

1606
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:35,520
they've gone EP called Vivid Dreams and Alectus on Fire

1607
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:38,000
none other than I've got an EP called Copies of

1608
01:14:38,079 --> 01:14:40,920
Old Masters Volume one, which is a cover's EP of

1609
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:43,279
I think a lot of Canadian bands like the Tragically

1610
01:14:43,399 --> 01:14:46,159
Hip very close to home influences for them. But they've

1611
01:14:46,159 --> 01:14:48,119
got their EP out and obviously Volume one suggests there

1612
01:14:48,119 --> 01:14:48,520
will be more.

1613
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:50,359
Speaker 3: But there you go. Thank you very much for being

1614
01:14:50,399 --> 01:14:50,720
with us.

1615
01:14:51,079 --> 01:14:55,239
Speaker 1: Thank you for the listening of our incredible festival gauntlet there.

1616
01:14:55,279 --> 01:14:57,600
What are the ones that really sing to you and

1617
01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:02,680
strike your fancy and on that particular kick. Next week

1618
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:06,079
on the show will be myself and Elliott reporting from

1619
01:15:06,319 --> 01:15:10,000
Damnation Festival, where we are about to go and see

1620
01:15:10,279 --> 01:15:12,479
a whole load of the sickest heavy bands that there

1621
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:14,520
had ever been. I'm very excited. I hope to see

1622
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:16,279
some of you guys there, and we will be back

1623
01:15:16,319 --> 01:15:18,199
here next week for that, so see you're there.

1624
01:15:18,239 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 4: Bye.