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Speaker 4: This is episode two of our Lost Boys Versus Fright

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Speaker 5: Podcast Awesome de We were talking before about the special effects,

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and obviously with Friday Night you have a whole lot

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more special effects going on, and so I talked about

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Steve Johnson, the guy who said there was lots of

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cocaine there, and the guy who did the pencil through

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the hand and was frustrated at the cut that came about.

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Speaker 1: But another I mean, he just had a ton of

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good stories, some of which are absolutely inappropriate to tell

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on a family friendly episode. But one of the stories

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is that you know, they used acid to burn up

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the bat creature that they had the end that was

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supposed to be Jerry burning up in the skeleton. Well,

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part of that piece came from Ghostbusters that they had

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done before. It was just a piece that they thought

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was too scary for the librarian at the very intro scene.

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So when they're getting to the end of Fright Night

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and they're looking for more stuff to do and they're

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out of money, they're like, well, let's just go dig

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into our old Ghostbusters stuff and see if we can

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find it, and so they came up with that bat skeleton,

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and so they melt the skeleton in multiple ways, but

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one of those ways is with acid. And so Steve Johnson,

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you know, once the acid has done its thing and

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everything's melted, he goes over and pours this base, you know,

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to counteract the acid. He pours this basic solution all

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over this thing. And then he drives home that evening

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and he's like, my feet can kind of feel tingly.

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I guess they's ending up a bunch, you know, all

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day along the day, And when he gets home, he

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realizes that the rubber on the bottom of his sneakers

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has completely melted to like his feet are starting to burn.

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It's burned through his socks. Yeah, He's like, I couldn't

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walk around for a few weeks after that.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome, you know.

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Speaker 4: One of the things that you know, as we're talking

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about special effects, I did want to mention this.

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Speaker 2: We didn't really.

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Speaker 4: Talk about, I mean, some details on these movies. So

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Friday Night was released August second, nineteen eighty five, had

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a budget of nine million dollars. It took home twenty

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five million, so it was a kind of a surprise

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hit that fall season, but it is the first vampire

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movie to spend one million dollars on special effects, as

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kind of a trailblazer in that way.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, wow, that's impressive. Okay. We talked about the

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head of special effects for Fright Night was a guy

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named Richard Edlund. They had a ton of guys working

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on this, and we talked about Steve Johnson, but there

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bit of an infamous story. They had kind of reached

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the end of their budget as far as things go

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for the special effects, and so at some point they're

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working through things and Tom Holland comes over to the

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Randy Cook and he's like, I need you to do

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me a favor. He's like okay, he goes, you've got

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mask for free? And Randy's and he's like, I mean,

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scary teeth for Amy and we don't have any money

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left for the budget, so can you just do me

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this favor. It's going to be a short shot. It's

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just using scraps. Basically, it puts together this nasty looking

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shark mouth for Amy, and it's that it's that that's

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horrible shark mouth. And it didn't go for only three

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seconds in the movie. It was all over the movie, like,

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not realizing what her face looks like. Now, so you

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get this full on you're looking right at her in

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this horrible, frozen smile, and then she whips around and

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so Tom Holland was like, he told Amanda Beers, don't

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show it to him until we're filming. And so that

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reaction that he has whenever she whips around and has

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the shark teeth and is jumping at it is a

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very genuine reaction because it was like, holy crap, there

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it is. This is much bigger and scarier. And Randy

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glob of crap. I mean, it's horrible. You know, if

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you zoom in you get the high def it looks

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really really bad. But not only do they use it

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multiple scenes and kind of through this whole chase scene

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in the movie, far more than three seconds. But then

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after they've finished the movie, the poster comes out and

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the poster is the face in the clouds. It's that face.

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Speaker 4: We talked about this, So, yeah, they had a million

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dollars for effects, and they got to the end of

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it and Steve Elland's like, do you remember that million

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dollars I had for effects? I have zero dollars and

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zero since left over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the poster, so I've seen this.

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VHS tape and all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: It had never occurred to me that that was Amy's face.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's kind of all you get is the face.

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you just have that one face. But yeah, it's that

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poster though, I mean, I have to think that that

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poster got a whole lot of people going in because

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that is one of the best posters of eighties movies

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I've ever seen, and it's really fantastic. And so I

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went to go find out who the artist is. It's unknown.

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at some advertising agency through that thing together, and nobody

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for it. It's just this unknown guy who has made

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this iconic bit of history. I mean, maybe more recognizable

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and nobody knows who did it. It's pretty pretty impressive.

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again for Fright Night two, which is you know, did

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you see Fright Night two?

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Speaker 4: I did see Frida Night too. It was half as

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good as Friday one, probably or less.

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Speaker 1: I think I saw it as well, but I really

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honestly don't remember it. I feel like it was maybe

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more funny, like they were going more for the comedy

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thing on Fright Night two? Am I remembering that? Right?

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Speaker 4: The interesting thing about Friday Night two is that Charlie turns.

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first one, and it's Jerry d Andrews's sister.

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she had she had watched the movie over and over

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to study his mannerism so that she could imitate him

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in that second one. So here's here's an interesting story

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about part two. So Tom Holland couldn't direct it. Like,

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so he was involved in that. So they brought this

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other director in. Now Tom Holland was still involved, obviously

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it's his baby, right, but he wasn't directing it. So

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and so they are. Roddy McDowell's in the movie. He's

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he's invested in it as well. And at some point

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they have to meet with the Live Entertainment chairman who

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is discussing the distribution of the movie. Right, the guy

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who's responsible for distribution and marketing, and his name is

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Jose Menendez and they go in to meet with him,

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and it was this horrible meeting, like he was furious

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responsible for getting this movie out to everybody mad at us.

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He's gonna screw us. And so Tom Holland says to

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Roddy mcdell, Hey, we'll go back, you know, after this weekend.

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the bridges, you know, we'll kiss his butt or whatever,

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and it'll all be fine. But they couldn't do that

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because over the weekend, Jose Menindez was murdered by his sons,

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the Menindez brothers.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh, are you serious.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, isn't that crazy?

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Speaker 2: And so you know Ninda's brothers.

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for marketing. Yeah, fright night too. And when when When

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Roddy mcdell found out, he quickly called Tommy Wallace and said, well,

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it's terrible but because of that, I think they only

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Speaker 2: And it was tough to get a hold of.

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Speaker 4: So so they did the reboot with Colin Farrell. I

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Speaker 2: He's cool.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, Colin Ferrell as a vampire is

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pretty cool. But it just didn't quite work for me.

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I definitely think the original is way better, way better.

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I have seen two Lost Boys sequels.

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Speaker 1: N Uh, yes, you watched those.

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Speaker 2: I watched them.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Wow, do you wish you had that time back?

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Speaker 2: So here's the deal. Here's the deal. Yeah, they hook

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you with. Corey Feldman and Corey Haym were in one.

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Speaker 1: Uh huh.

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Speaker 4: And then Keifer Setlin's brother is in it, and it's

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a look alike to David Same.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, he looks very I mean it's keep his

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Speaker 4: I mean it looks just like David, but there's a

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lot more skin in this one and sex scenes and

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that type of thing. But the hook is that one

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of the main characters from the original Lost Boys becomes

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a vampire at the very end of the movies.

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Speaker 2: So I don't want to give any spoilers away, but

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Speaker 1: I'm like, god, this is don't rush off to see

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those sequels to the.

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Speaker 2: Lost Boy exactly exactly.

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though before it's sort of in the realm of special effects. Okay,

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when Jerry Danders gets her on the dance floor, okay,

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she went down and came back up, and it was

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like she ran her fingers through her hair and suddenly

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queen of the disco. All.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's right.

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Speaker 4: So he takes her back sort of does his vampire

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seduction thing bites her and as she begins to transform,

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there's some interesting things that happen. Number One, all of

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a sudden, she's wearing this white Marilyn Monroe dress. Right,

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her hair grows and turns blonde.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of a red. Yeah, kind of a rusty

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red kind of look. It was horrible.

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Speaker 1: No, and it looks terrible. If they had done something

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actually exotic and sexy, that might have been pretty cool.

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hair for was Roddy McDowell as an old person. That

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was the worst hair. Loved the whole movie for sure,

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looked worse than stage makeup. It was terrible, but go ahead, okay.

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Speaker 4: But the other thing that they did for the movie

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is they gave her prosthetic breasts.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 4: So part of the seduction process is we're changing this

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high school girl into the Marilyn Monroe vamped up promo

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queen stripper version of her herself in the original story.

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four hundred years old or so, but from the novelization,

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so she's extra busty when she is saved by them

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killing off Jerry Dandridge, she gets to keep those.

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Speaker 1: So it's kind of it's kind of like young Frankenstein.

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but what did you get? Yeah? So yeah, as I

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understand it, Like when she was doing an auction and

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like signing graphs, she was wearing them and let people

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come up and feel them. While she was.

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Speaker 2: Wearing them, they were on the table.

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Speaker 1: She said, oh, she wasn't wearing them. Yeah, it makes

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it less of a good story. Sorry about that. They

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just be sitting there on the table. You want to

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feel my breast? No, not that. We haven't talked about

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special effects.

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Speaker 2: For Oh Lost Boys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they hired a guy originally they wouldn't name his name,

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but he came in and did prosthetics because they wanted

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the vampires to look ghoulish when they.

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Speaker 2: Transformed to vampires.

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Speaker 4: Right, And the first guy who came in he did

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a job and and and he made him too scary

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and they didn't they didn't really like that.

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Speaker 2: Joe Schumacher's like, I've.

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Speaker 4: Hired all these young, sexy hip actors and we're going

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to make them look horrible. I didn't like it, so

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they fired that guy and they brought in a guy

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named Greg Cannon. And that was his instruction. He said, listen,

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I brought in these great look actors. I want them

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to look like vampires. So they need to be scary,

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but they need to be.

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Speaker 2: Good looking vampires.

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Speaker 1: Uh huh.

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Speaker 4: And so he minimized the prosthetics, gave them those awesome

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contacts we talked about last week, right, and then the

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fangs that were right next to their incisors just did

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a great job. They're still creepy, scary, but they're also.

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Speaker 1: They still look like them.

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Speaker 2: They still look like them, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not Jerry Dandridge looking like Sloth from Goonies aby. Yeah. Yeah,

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So okay, are you ready? Are you ready for me

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to blow your mind? Yes? On Greg Candem. Yeah. So

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he has He obviously has a ton a ton of

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special effects credits, like the Mask with Jim Carrey, he

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did Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter, he did Watchmen. He's done

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a ton a ton of stuff. But he's only got

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three acting credits, and of those three, one of them

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is a zombie on the thriller video.

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Speaker 2: That is cool man. Hey, one of the things I

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want to talk about one of the mysteries of frid Night.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, one of the big question marks about Friday Night

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is Billy Cole.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: He is the guy who lives with Jerry Dandridge and

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is his protector.

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Speaker 1: Right kind of the ren Field.

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Speaker 2: So the big question is what is Billy Cole?

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Speaker 1: Right, He's not a vampire, No, walks around to day

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out in the sun, right.

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Speaker 4: R he gets shot in the forehead and doesn't die right,

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and when they finally stab him with a steak, he

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turns to slime and dust and yeah, so the big

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question is what is he?

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Speaker 2: What do you think? Is got any ideas well?

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Speaker 1: I mean I've read a couple of theories. One is

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that he's like this gollum that Jerry created out of

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sand kind of deal. Is one idea. And then the

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other is that he is a like a half vampire,

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like somebody who has been bitten but hasn't hasn't bitten

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somebody else himself, and so he's not fully a vampire

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like like Amy was, where he can still he could

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still go back. You know.

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Speaker 4: I I saw Tom Holland talk about this and they're like, Okay, Tom,

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what is Billy Cole?

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Speaker 2: And He's like, I don't know, not exactly sure.

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Speaker 1: God, that's weird. What the hell is goofy for me?

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You know? And there's an interesting you know, there's an

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interesting perspective to the relationship that he and Jerry have.

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You know that there's there are definitely some homoerotic little

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shots that that that they do. But from what I heard,

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neither one of the actors had any idea about it. It

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was all something that Tom Holland just kind of structured

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from the way that he shot the scenes and the

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way that he wrote it without being with being avert

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about it.

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Speaker 2: I guess so, right, you know, I've heard that mentioned

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on both of these movies.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I can tell you that that Jason Patrick

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and Keifer Sutherland both were like, we weren't ever told that.

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it's certainly not something that we were understood to be

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the case. Unlike George Clooney, who he said the Joel

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Schumaker for Lot I told him, yeah, Batman and Robin

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aren't gay.

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Speaker 2: We don't talk about Batman and Robin.

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Speaker 1: All right. You don't like the nipples, I don't like

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the bat nipples, Yeah, the bat nipples and the codpiece.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay. Another little tidbit from Fright Night. The song

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that Jerry is whistling as he sneaks into Charlie's bedroom

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is Strangers in the Night by Frank Sinatra. According to

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Christen Randon, he wanted Jerry to whistle whistle why you

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work from snow White, right, but couldn't get permission from

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Disney for that one.

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Speaker 1: I wonder why. I wonder why Disney wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: Go for that.

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Speaker 4: Here's a tidbit I found out from Osy so I

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thought was pretty cool. The comic book store in the movie.

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It's called Atlantis Fantasy World. It's featured in the movie.

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It's owned by this guy named Joe Ferrara, who still

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carries the original number one issue of Vampires everywhere that

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Sam Reids in the film. The comic was created just

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for the movie, and if you go to this comic

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book store, you can actually have your picture taken with

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that comic. I wonder if you can hand it back

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to the guy and say I don't like horror comics.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I got one for you on Fright Night. All right, Yeah,

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we've talked about the reboots and we talked about the sequels.

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But five years ago when they asked Tom Holland if

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he would ever like to do a sequel of any

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of his movies, like, you know, forget the the reboots

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that exist, any movie you could do, he said, the one,

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the one that he would like to do is a

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follow up of Fright Night where he brings back the

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original cast and the plot is single father Charlie Brewster

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inherits his mother's home and soon after moving in, his

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two teenage children become convinced that there's something evil in

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the house next door, namely Evil Ed, who is squatting

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in the abandoned mansion attempting to resurrect Jerry Dandridge.

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Speaker 2: Dude, I could get on board with that.

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Speaker 1: I'm all for it. That sounds like a great movie.

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And I have to think that these actors would be like, yeah,

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let's do that. That sound I mean, what are they

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guy going on? Right? Okay, it hasn't been somebody in

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a long time. I know.

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Speaker 2: Herman's head was a long time ago. So but I'll

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tell you what.

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Speaker 4: One of the things that people mentioned from Friday Night

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when Ed dies Evil Ed dies, he transforms back from

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that wolf, gets stabbed, falls over the edge, and dies,

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transforms back to the boy. Remember the cross evaporates from

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his forehead. And then what happens. Peter Vincent pulls this

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steak out right, and a lot of people thought.

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Speaker 2: What are you doing, dude?

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Speaker 4: You don't pull the steak out? And so that did

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leave it open for a sequel.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I will say this, The one thing that I

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didn't notice that was because it was always around in

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the eighties. But I'm watching with my seventeen year old

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and she goes, why did they show every shot three

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times from three different directions? And I was like, holy cow.

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They argue, like Jerry bust through the window, It's like

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from like three different angles, right, Like, I guess that's

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just something they did. I didn't even I just just

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I've just noticed it, and so I told you about it.

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And then literally two days later, I'm watching the Simpsons

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Halloween special and it's the one where Bart Simpson becomes

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a vampire and is right outside of Lisa's window and

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he's coming after her, and he busts through the window,

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and sure enough they do a shot from three different directions.

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I was just like Darren Doyle, we here we go.

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We know how to get on these references. They just

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did a throwback to Fright Night and the three break scene.

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Speaker 4: See, it's because they spend so much money on those

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practical effects that they want to get.

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Speaker 2: Their money's worth. Right, that's really cool.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So just real quick, I just feel like we

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should touch on it. Okay, So the poster for Fright

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Night is iconic because it's just a beautifully done engaging

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The face is amazing, it's over the suburbian house. It's

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just perfect. And the Lost Boys picture is the poster

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is also perfect, but in a completely different way. It is.

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I mean it is them in black and white with

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this stark red backdrop to where they are and just

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very simple. The Lost Boys, that's it. It's so so

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super simple. But you know it is about vampires. But

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you're sitting there staring at these rockstar are looking young folks. Yeah,

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totally grabs your attention to great posters. Okay, So, Jason,

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have you heard the story on the ending of Fright

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night I have.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there was originally supposed to be a very different ending,

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and I thought this was super interesting.

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Speaker 2: At the time.

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Speaker 4: In the eighties, monster movies are supposed to be the

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monster's supposed to be vanquished and the good guys are

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supposed to get married and live happily hour after whatever.

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But in the original script, it was supposed to be

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radically different. Okay, Charlie and Amy are in their bed

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making out watching Fright Night like usual, right, like they

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were at the end of the movie, and there's Peter

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Vincent and he comes on and he's introducing a movie

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and it's talking about this movie with vampires, and he says,

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you know what vampires look like, don't you They look

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like this. Peter Vincent vams out right yeah, and Charlie

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and Amy.

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Speaker 1: He got bitten by the bat, right, I mean he

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got bitten by the bat.

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Speaker 2: He got bit on the arm by the Jerry Dandrews bat.

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Speaker 4: And I remember as a kid watching this going, oh no,

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he got bit by the bad Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I thought that guy's gonna have to die. That's a shame.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And he transforms into a vampire on screen, leans

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forward and says hello, Charlie and that's where they cut

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to the end credits and it rolls.

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Speaker 1: Right, and then one of the producers sees the movie

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and he calls Tom Holland and he said, what the

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heck do you think you're doing? Yeah, you cannot let

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this guy be you somebody that the audience falls in

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love with for two hours and then turned him into

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a vampire at the end. You can't do it, change it. Yep.

474
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 4: It's kind of a brave twist there. You know, who

475
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,519
is considered for the role of David.

476
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 2: No Jim Carrey.

477
00:24:49,039 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 1: That'd been weird, especially since he had just done Once Bitten. Yeah,

478
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,000
Once Bitten, Yeah, Yeah, that would have been very strange.

479
00:24:57,279 --> 00:24:59,039
Speaker 4: Also, I want to talk about this real quick. In

480
00:24:59,079 --> 00:25:02,559
the movie Lethal, Weap and Murta and Riggs are walking

481
00:25:02,599 --> 00:25:06,559
down the street discussing how Murta ohs Huntsecker right, and

482
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,759
in the background you see a movie theater that says

483
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,319
lost Boys this year's hit both Richard Donner.

484
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,039
Speaker 1: Ah, of course, yes, okay, that makes sense. I was like, man,

485
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,759
how are we going to get a connection out of this?

486
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,519
All right? What if Donner was upset that he didn't

487
00:25:22,599 --> 00:25:23,720
end up directing that thing?

488
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,839
Speaker 4: You know, I heard I saw him comments on that.

489
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,920
He said he was so glad that Schumacher took over.

490
00:25:29,279 --> 00:25:31,680
He said I could not do it as good as

491
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:32,119
he did it.

492
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,039
Speaker 2: I thought that was a real strong quote.

493
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 1: That's a good compliment too, That's awesome.

494
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,559
Speaker 4: Okay, do we want to talk about some of the

495
00:25:42,559 --> 00:25:44,920
basic vampire tropes that we see in these movies?

496
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:46,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, let's go.

497
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:47,519
Speaker 2: I thought this was kind of cool.

498
00:25:47,599 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 4: So in these movies, we have fangs flying, yes, no

499
00:25:53,279 --> 00:25:59,119
reflection okay, steaks through the heart, yes, coffins yes, okay,

500
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,039
even though that came is basically one big coffin, which

501
00:26:02,039 --> 00:26:03,480
we right, right.

502
00:26:03,759 --> 00:26:08,319
Speaker 2: It's the batcave. You have thorn, the hounds of hell.

503
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 1: Uh huh.

504
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 2: You have holy water. Yeah, you have garlic, which he

505
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,920
mentions garlic don't work on us boys, right.

506
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 4: You have half vampires and head vampires. You have long fingernails,

507
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,279
bad breath, and extreme strength.

508
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: Right.

509
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 2: But the one thing I want.

510
00:26:24,519 --> 00:26:26,559
Speaker 4: To talk about with you that we kind of need

511
00:26:26,559 --> 00:26:28,720
to unpack is the home invitation.

512
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:34,039
Speaker 1: The vampire cannot enter your house without being invited by

513
00:26:34,079 --> 00:26:36,240
the rightful owner first. Right.

514
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,319
Speaker 2: It happens in both of these movies, and they discuss it,

515
00:26:39,599 --> 00:26:41,279
and yet they kind of break their own rules a

516
00:26:41,319 --> 00:26:41,640
little bit.

517
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, it's to me it appears to be

518
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,039
one rule in one movie and a slightly varied rule

519
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,039
in the other movie.

520
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,599
Speaker 2: Don't ever invite a vampire into your house, your silly boy.

521
00:26:54,039 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: It renders you powerless. So a lot of I mean

522
00:26:57,079 --> 00:27:00,000
a lot of what you talked about there comes from

523
00:27:00,079 --> 00:27:03,880
the original vampire ideas, comes from Dracula, the coffin, the teeth,

524
00:27:04,559 --> 00:27:08,400
being able to change into various animals, that kind of thing.

525
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,079
That's all original vampire stuff. But then there's so many

526
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,480
movies that came out that started adding that extra stuff in,

527
00:27:16,039 --> 00:27:18,400
and a lot of that, especially like the inviting the

528
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,240
vampire in that is something that was just, i mean

529
00:27:22,279 --> 00:27:24,519
basically came from TV. Right It came from the movies,

530
00:27:24,599 --> 00:27:29,200
came from TV. And so what happens in Fright Night

531
00:27:29,759 --> 00:27:33,119
is we understand that the rule is a vampire cannot

532
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,319
come into your house unless invited. And then you have Charlie,

533
00:27:37,839 --> 00:27:41,079
this is our next door neighbor, Jerry Dandridge. I don't

534
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,839
know why he wouldn't have told his mom like that second,

535
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,759
but you know, then so Jerry gets invited in by

536
00:27:47,799 --> 00:27:50,319
the mom and so that kids gives him free rein

537
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,960
to come in where whenever he wants to. Now right,

538
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,279
what we find out in The Lost Boys is not

539
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,599
that they can't come in if not invited. It's that

540
00:28:01,279 --> 00:28:05,039
the magic that works against them is useless if you

541
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,640
invite them in. Like he can eat the garlic, he

542
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,759
can handle the holy water. None of those little things work.

543
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,480
I don't know what would have happened with a stake

544
00:28:14,519 --> 00:28:17,920
through the heart, but anyway, none of those magical type

545
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,480
things affect the vampire if you invite them in. I

546
00:28:21,519 --> 00:28:25,200
didn't invite you this time, Max, But we see all

547
00:28:25,319 --> 00:28:28,440
of the all of the young vampires bust through the

548
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,559
wall and the windows. I mean, they're coming in and

549
00:28:30,599 --> 00:28:33,519
they're not invited at all, you know. So I think

550
00:28:33,559 --> 00:28:36,519
it was just a variation on what is really a

551
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,039
made up trope anyway. I mean, I guess they're all

552
00:28:39,079 --> 00:28:40,359
really made up tropes, but.

553
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,279
Speaker 4: Sure, I think it's interesting. In Fright Night, he does

554
00:28:43,319 --> 00:28:45,720
such a great job with it. He's so suave and

555
00:28:45,799 --> 00:28:47,279
so cool that he's like.

556
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: Hello, Charlie, did you see what he was drinking?

557
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:50,319
Speaker 6: No?

558
00:28:50,559 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: Letty Mary nice?

559
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,559
Speaker 4: And then in The Lost Boys, you have that whole

560
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,640
hilarious scene at the beginning or in the middle of

561
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,519
the movie when the Frog brothers are invited over and

562
00:29:01,519 --> 00:29:04,319
they feed him straight garlic and they show that mirror

563
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,440
right in his face and it startles.

564
00:29:06,079 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 2: Him, and it's this kind of funny scene.

565
00:29:07,839 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 4: All of that, it leads you to believe that Max

566
00:29:10,319 --> 00:29:12,839
is not the head vampire, which is a great reveal

567
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:13,359
at the end.

568
00:29:13,599 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a good way to handle that. That

569
00:29:16,279 --> 00:29:17,359
was a great way to handle it.

570
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 2: I love both of these movies. Man, they're so good. Okay,

571
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,480
you ready to talk about soundtrack or what?

572
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: Before we jump into soundtrack. I forgot to mention this.

573
00:29:24,119 --> 00:29:26,279
I just I'll just mention it now. So we talked

574
00:29:26,319 --> 00:29:29,160
about the sequels. Did you know that there was a

575
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:33,880
discussion about a prequel Key for Sutherland and Joel Schumacher

576
00:29:34,119 --> 00:29:38,480
discussed doing a prequel that occurred back at the time

577
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,400
that the great San Francisco earthquake had happened that dropped

578
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,319
the hotel in and that was when it was going

579
00:29:45,359 --> 00:29:48,160
to take place, and that was going to be like

580
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,519
the start of all of the vampires. And I was like, dude,

581
00:29:53,279 --> 00:29:55,000
that is another one that needs to be made.

582
00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:57,799
Speaker 2: That sounds great to me. I'm I'm all on board

583
00:29:57,799 --> 00:29:58,039
for that.

584
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, But he for Sutherland said, you know, it was

585
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,160
a it was a conversation over a bottle of wine.

586
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,920
That's all it ever, was nothing more than that.

587
00:30:07,279 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 4: I did hear Joel Schumacher discuss the idea of having

588
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,000
a new movie called The Lost Girls. That was his

589
00:30:14,079 --> 00:30:17,759
idea that it was basically a.

590
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 2: Group of girl vampires terrorized town.

591
00:30:20,599 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, like The Craft or something.

592
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 2: Right.

593
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: Okay, soundtracks, soundtracks, Let's talk about soundtracks. Okay, So let's

594
00:30:32,039 --> 00:30:36,119
start with Fright Night. So Fright Night's soundtrack is done

595
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:42,559
by Brad Fidel, Yes, who got the job because he

596
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:48,039
had lucked into this magical movie called The Terminator. At

597
00:30:48,039 --> 00:30:52,519
this time in history, digital music was the thing that

598
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,599
was coming about, and Tom Holland totally saw that. He

599
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,319
was like, I you know, I knew, I knew. Tangerine

600
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,240
Dream was doing all this stuff like that. Tangerine Dream

601
00:31:02,319 --> 00:31:06,559
did the soundtrack from Risky Business, which is freaking awesome.

602
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,240
I mean, I've downloaded their stuff in the last week.

603
00:31:09,279 --> 00:31:12,319
It's so good. Even though it's that eighties digital stuff,

604
00:31:12,359 --> 00:31:15,599
they were masters at it. But Brad Fidell was doing

605
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,960
that same very techno electronic sound to do the soundtrack

606
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,559
for his movies. And Tom Holland loved what he had

607
00:31:22,599 --> 00:31:25,599
done with the Terminator and so said, come on, come

608
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,039
over here. We want you to be the composer for

609
00:31:28,079 --> 00:31:34,759
this movie. So come to Me. Come to Me was

610
00:31:34,759 --> 00:31:37,599
a song by Brad Fidell that he had like done

611
00:31:37,599 --> 00:31:39,559
the lyrics for and everything, like he was a singer

612
00:31:39,599 --> 00:31:42,079
on it. And then when they had it's the one

613
00:31:42,079 --> 00:31:45,359
that's playing whenever Jerry's about to bite her yea, and

614
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,519
Tom Holland had to say, you got to lose the

615
00:31:47,599 --> 00:31:50,799
lyrics and Brad Fidel's like what Yeah, He's like, wait

616
00:31:50,839 --> 00:31:52,440
a minute, what am I thinking? I got? This is

617
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,359
supposed to serve the movie. So he took it out.

618
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,759
Speaker 2: Okay, do you are you ready for my come to Me?

619
00:31:56,839 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: Sorry, but you got something? You got something more? Yeah.

620
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,599
Speaker 4: So I did see all that, and I think it's

621
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,000
it kind of broke its heart a little bit because

622
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,359
he did pour his blood, sweat and tears into the

623
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,240
lyrics for come to Me, right and then but when

624
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,200
they pulled it out it worked even better. But I

625
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,839
thought this was hilarious. So the movie is released, you

626
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:20,200
have this real seductive song. It's what they play while

627
00:32:20,279 --> 00:32:23,440
Jerry is biting Amy and sort of transforming her into

628
00:32:23,599 --> 00:32:27,880
the vampires. But Brad Fidel was at his studio one

629
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,200
day and his phone rang and he said, there's this

630
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,359
woman on the phone who said, are you Brad Fidel?

631
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 2: And he's like yes. He's like, how did you get

632
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:36,359
my number? I mean, who is this?

633
00:32:37,359 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 4: So somehow she had found him, figured out a way

634
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,640
to call him, called him up and said you're Brad Fidel,

635
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,200
Yes i am. Did you write this song come to

636
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:47,119
me for frid Night?

637
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: Yes?

638
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 4: I did, And she said do you have a longer

639
00:32:50,119 --> 00:32:51,079
version of that song?

640
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,279
Speaker 2: He goes, well no, he goes.

641
00:32:54,079 --> 00:32:57,279
Speaker 4: That, I mean the spot in the movie doesn't really

642
00:32:57,279 --> 00:32:59,160
call for anything more than two or three minutes.

643
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,039
Speaker 2: He goes, that's it's the only thing I wrote.

644
00:33:01,079 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 4: She's like, really, because my boyfriend and I love that song.

645
00:33:05,319 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 2: We just need a longer version of that song.

646
00:33:11,079 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: Sorry, honey, songs over.

647
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:17,759
Speaker 2: That was a great hunt.

648
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,759
Speaker 1: You get a sandwich.

649
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,559
Speaker 6: Song just.

650
00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 4: The end credit song Friday Night. It's a song called

651
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,240
frid Night's by the Jay Gilles Band.

652
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, there was a video for that

653
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:44,160
one too, right.

654
00:33:44,119 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jay Gill's band, better known for Centerfold, Freeze, Frame,

655
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:52,920
Love Steams. Yeah, I love Jay Gill's band. They were

656
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,799
a little past their prime when this song came out.

657
00:33:59,319 --> 00:34:00,799
We already talk about boys soundtrack.

658
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: Yes, first the score. Let's talk about the score real quick.

659
00:34:04,519 --> 00:34:09,079
Because the composer for the Lost Boys is a guy

660
00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:13,679
named Thomas Newman. And if you if you've looked at

661
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,280
soundtrack composers at all, you know the name Newman because

662
00:34:18,599 --> 00:34:21,519
you've got Alfred Newman, who is a composer of movies

663
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,599
who won multiple Oscar Awards. What what's up?

664
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:26,599
Speaker 2: That's not Alfred E.

665
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: Newman? Yeah, I don't think so. We didn't have kind

666
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:34,679
of a wide smile. I don't know anyway. He he

667
00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:37,559
he won several Academy Awards. He was He's the one

668
00:34:37,559 --> 00:34:39,599
that composed the twentieth Century Fox.

669
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 2: He did that, okay.

670
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,039
Speaker 1: And then you got Randy Newman, who's his cousin, who's

671
00:34:48,079 --> 00:34:50,800
done all you know, he did the Toy Story, he

672
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,559
did all of those soundtracks that he's done, which is

673
00:34:53,599 --> 00:34:57,719
a unique He's got his own unique style. His brother had,

674
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,119
His brother, I believe his name is David, has done

675
00:35:01,159 --> 00:35:05,039
the soundtracks as well. Not really as many cool ones

676
00:35:05,039 --> 00:35:09,199
as Thomas has done. Thomas has quite the resume, David

677
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,800
not so much. But even still, he's won an Oscar

678
00:35:13,119 --> 00:35:16,679
for Anastasia. The other one of note that he did

679
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,719
that David did was Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. So

680
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,599
I'm pretty sure I talked about him last time. But

681
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:28,039
Thomas Newman, who did the score for The Lost Boys,

682
00:35:28,519 --> 00:35:32,239
has composed tons, I mean tons. I can't get him

683
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,719
all in, but let's hit some big ones. The Cinderella Man,

684
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,960
American Beauty, The Green Mile, Angels in America, Finding Nemo,

685
00:35:40,199 --> 00:35:46,960
Wally James Bond film Skyfall and Specter, and the Shawshank Redemption.

686
00:35:47,199 --> 00:35:50,039
I mean, dude, that's just a few. Like, he's got

687
00:35:50,119 --> 00:35:55,440
a ton, and he has this very unique record, he

688
00:35:57,119 --> 00:36:03,480
very sad record. He has been nominated for fifteen Academy Awards,

689
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,840
tying him with another composer named Alex North for the

690
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,639
most nominations without a win.

691
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,519
Speaker 4: Oh man, Yeah, it's nice to be nominated, but sure

692
00:36:14,599 --> 00:36:15,239
nice to win.

693
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:16,599
Speaker 2: All right.

694
00:36:16,679 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 6: D That leads us to the theme song of Lost Boys,

695
00:36:20,679 --> 00:36:31,000
Cry and a Sister. The song is amazing.

696
00:36:31,519 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just makes the hair stand up on your

697
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,800
arms every single time. Right every time.

698
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, the choir of the children singing the you know,

699
00:36:42,039 --> 00:36:45,599
thou shalt not fall, Thou shalt not kill, thou shalt

700
00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:46,400
not die.

701
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,599
Speaker 2: So good. It's written by a guy named Gerard McMahon.

702
00:36:51,159 --> 00:36:52,519
Speaker 1: Uh huh, and.

703
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 4: Joel Schumacher had worked with him previously, came to him

704
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,320
and said, Hey, I need you to write the theme

705
00:36:58,400 --> 00:36:59,000
song for this.

706
00:36:59,039 --> 00:36:59,599
Speaker 1: Movie I'm doing.

707
00:36:59,639 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 2: It's called Lost Boys.

708
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 4: He said, typically he watches the movie so he can

709
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,920
get a feel for it, and he didn't really get

710
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,639
a chance to do that, so he wrote it straight

711
00:37:08,679 --> 00:37:09,280
from the script.

712
00:37:09,559 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 1: Huh.

713
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 2: It's kind of an interesting way to do it. He

714
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,239
had an idea of what he wanted to do.

715
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,519
Speaker 4: He knew he wanted the choir of children kind of

716
00:37:15,519 --> 00:37:16,719
give it that creepy feel.

717
00:37:17,199 --> 00:37:20,639
Speaker 1: Oh, it's successful, very eerie and moving.

718
00:37:21,079 --> 00:37:23,199
Speaker 4: I mean they play it ten times throughout the entire

719
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,519
movie when David's killed at the beginning, they play it

720
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,280
with the hunting credits. Yeah, play it at the moment

721
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,320
when David's killed, And every time.

722
00:37:31,159 --> 00:37:32,599
Speaker 2: They play it, I'm like, I just want to keep

723
00:37:32,599 --> 00:37:33,440
listening to that song.

724
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: So I listened to an interview with Jason Patrick and

725
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,480
Key for Sutherland and they started talking about that song.

726
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,880
And you know they're at this They're at this like

727
00:37:44,039 --> 00:37:47,000
fan base convention. I don't know what it is, but

728
00:37:47,039 --> 00:37:49,960
they're obviously speaking to a large crowd of people and

729
00:37:50,039 --> 00:37:53,639
key for Sutherland's Like, so, okay, So I'm looking out

730
00:37:53,679 --> 00:37:55,559
of the audience and I'm seeing, Okay, there are a

731
00:37:55,599 --> 00:37:58,360
few kids. Uh so how do I say this? So

732
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,440
what do I say? So? Like, every time I would

733
00:38:01,519 --> 00:38:10,800
go to a dancing bar, that song would automatically come

734
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,719
on while I was there. That just I guess the

735
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,079
you know, the dancers, when they would see him come in,

736
00:38:17,119 --> 00:38:18,960
we're like, oh, oh, I got to play that song

737
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:19,760
for my next day.

738
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:22,519
Speaker 2: I know what'll get his attention.

739
00:38:23,159 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: Yes, and somehow we hit the stripper songs again. I

740
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,519
don't know how we do it for everypod. I just

741
00:38:31,559 --> 00:38:34,039
got to let our audience know I I do not

742
00:38:34,119 --> 00:38:36,039
go to strip clubs, all right, I just don't do it.

743
00:38:36,159 --> 00:38:38,679
I need you guys to know that. It's just fun

744
00:38:38,679 --> 00:38:40,760
to talk about the idea. I don't go to strip clubs.

745
00:38:41,639 --> 00:38:43,519
Speaker 2: Hey, we love stripper songs.

746
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,079
Speaker 4: I don't know if you know this or not, but

747
00:38:47,559 --> 00:38:50,199
Marilyn Manson actually has a cover of Cry Little Sister.

748
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got a whole lot of covers, a whole

749
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:53,960
lot of good songs that are not as good as

750
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:54,920
the songs that he covered.

751
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 2: Totally, totally, yeah, Yeah.

752
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 4: We can't say enough good things about Cry Little Sister.

753
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,400
But there are some other songs on the soundtrack.

754
00:39:01,039 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: I want to talk about. One of my favorites is

755
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:07,880
the one by the lead singer Foreigner Lou Graham. He

756
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,639
did Lost in the Shadows, which is that one that's

757
00:39:10,679 --> 00:39:14,119
playing while they're racing their motorcycles. Yes, that is a

758
00:39:14,159 --> 00:39:16,039
freaking awesome song.

759
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, great songer, great song.

760
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,639
Speaker 4: There's actually a deleted scene that uses that song.

761
00:39:32,679 --> 00:39:35,639
Speaker 2: I think they kind of shifted it around. Oh yeah, Yeah.

762
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:40,079
Speaker 4: Michael is cleaning dishes and mom is doing chores and

763
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,920
Sam is playing it on the radio, and he comes

764
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,000
downstairs and makes his mom dance with him, and then

765
00:39:45,039 --> 00:39:46,639
he grabs Michael and kind of the three of them

766
00:39:46,679 --> 00:39:49,679
dance around the kitchen. It does not fit the tone

767
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,480
of the movie at all, uh huh, But it was

768
00:39:51,519 --> 00:39:53,119
an interesting deleted scene to watch.

769
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: So that's interesting because we know how the movie does end.

770
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:00,719
It ends at that It ends very abruptly with the

771
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,559
line by the Grandpa. One thing I could never stomach

772
00:40:04,639 --> 00:40:08,400
about Santa Carla All the Day Vampire. Yeah, yes, right,

773
00:40:08,599 --> 00:40:10,159
what a way to end the movie. Like he just

774
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,559
kind of wanders off to get the beer. They're like,

775
00:40:12,599 --> 00:40:15,320
what's wrong with you? What's going on? It's his root beer,

776
00:40:15,639 --> 00:40:16,320
his root beer?

777
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 4: Yes, right with it in the drawer by his oreos

778
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,000
and uh, don't pull off the tab to the TV.

779
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:26,039
Speaker 1: Guide right, and then it ends. The movie ends there,

780
00:40:26,079 --> 00:40:27,840
And I can see how if I was right in

781
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,440
the movie, it'd be like, I can't end the movie there.

782
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,480
But it was the way they handle it was great.

783
00:40:31,519 --> 00:40:33,440
I thought that was a perfect way to end end

784
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:34,159
that movie.

785
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:38,559
Speaker 4: So Krylo's Sisters awesome, Lost in the Shadows awesome. Yes

786
00:40:38,599 --> 00:40:40,679
you get Don't Let the Sun Go Down on Me

787
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,800
by Roger Daltrey, which is a cover of Elton John right, right, right,

788
00:40:45,119 --> 00:40:47,159
you have People Are Strange, which is a cover of

789
00:40:47,199 --> 00:40:47,920
the Doors song.

790
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 1: Right, and then one of the big ones. There were

791
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,719
two videos that I remember seeing for this movie because

792
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,519
they showed clips of the movie throughout, and one of

793
00:40:55,559 --> 00:40:58,840
those was the Lou Graham Lost in the Shadows song.

794
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,719
The other one is one we've talked about before.

795
00:41:05,199 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, good Times, which is in excess to Jimmy Barnes,

796
00:41:08,159 --> 00:41:10,960
which we talked about, was kind of the precursor for

797
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:12,599
in excess Kick Cowboy.

798
00:41:13,079 --> 00:41:16,679
Speaker 1: Yeah they did, you know, they didn't. They didn't make

799
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,800
it for the movie like they had already covered the song.

800
00:41:20,159 --> 00:41:22,440
It was part of some Australian tour that they were

801
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,960
doing and they did not, and so they covered another

802
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:26,920
Australian band.

803
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 2: Do you know this, yeah, the Easy Beats.

804
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: Right, yes, which one of the members of the Easy

805
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,320
Beats was George Young who is the brother.

806
00:41:36,039 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 2: Of Angus and Malcolm Young from ac DC.

807
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: There you go.

808
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,039
Speaker 2: Another tidbit on that song, good Times, the original version

809
00:41:43,079 --> 00:41:45,480
by the Easy Beats. They played it on the radio.

810
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,679
Speaker 4: Who was listening to that radio station, Paul McCartney. When

811
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,320
that song was over, Paul McCartney called the radio station

812
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:53,880
and said, Hi, this is Paul McCartney.

813
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 2: I want you to play that song again.

814
00:41:57,199 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 1: Did they play it again? Yes?

815
00:41:58,440 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 2: They did, Yes they did.

816
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,119
Speaker 1: That's fantastic. All right.

817
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 4: Can we talk about Tim Cappello his version of the

818
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,599
Calls I still believed.

819
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: Let me just say one of the most memorable like

820
00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:26,559
bit part cameo things of any movie ever.

821
00:42:26,679 --> 00:42:28,559
Speaker 2: And he he is.

822
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: He created a character that was you were just like

823
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,360
I know that guy every time I see him. He

824
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:41,880
is the sexy saxophonist.

825
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,679
Speaker 4: The saxophonists that covered himself with baby oil and sang

826
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,119
the song I still believe it's so great.

827
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Tim, he actually sang it like the guy

828
00:42:59,599 --> 00:43:01,480
who's up there who you see is he's not lip

829
00:43:01,519 --> 00:43:05,159
syncing some other song. He is an actual musician. He

830
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,719
was trained as a musician. He was in bands in

831
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:14,400
the seventies and eighties. He got addicted to heroin in

832
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,079
the seventies and so in nineteen seventy nine he quits

833
00:43:18,159 --> 00:43:24,960
cold Turkey and takes up bodybuilding. And so he is

834
00:43:25,079 --> 00:43:32,159
toured with Carly Simon, Peter Gabriel, Garland, Jeffries. He was

835
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,039
one of the main guys who toured with Tina Turner.

836
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,800
But he would always he would do that bit like

837
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,480
he would grease himself all up and he'd be next

838
00:43:40,519 --> 00:43:43,719
to Carly Simon used to bring him out in a

839
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,960
dog leash and a g string. I don't know what

840
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,159
else to say on top of that. That's the whole story.

841
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:56,280
That's it's just it's crazy. But man, what a a memorable.

842
00:43:55,760 --> 00:44:01,639
Speaker 4: Guy, great song, iconic cameo appearance, and just really impactful

843
00:44:01,679 --> 00:44:05,239
moment in the movie. Yet you say lost Boys, one

844
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,199
of the first things people think about is the greasy

845
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:07,800
sax player.

846
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 1: Are we ready to move now to final judgment?

847
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,519
Speaker 2: I think we're ready for final judgment.

848
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 1: So we have two movies that are incredibly similar. One

849
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,599
came out an eighty five, one came out in eighty seven.

850
00:44:20,679 --> 00:44:24,400
They redefined for us what the vampire was. They made

851
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,719
vampires sexy again. Vampires had gotten silly, and they made

852
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,599
him sexy again with still maintaining some humor in both movies,

853
00:44:31,639 --> 00:44:34,480
which I've told you before is vital for any movie.

854
00:44:34,519 --> 00:44:36,119
You got to have at least a little bit of humor,

855
00:44:36,119 --> 00:44:39,199
and these both of these movies did an impeccable job

856
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:44,320
of that. I love the way that Tom Holland took

857
00:44:44,519 --> 00:44:48,800
this notion of a movie from nineteen forty eight and

858
00:44:49,039 --> 00:44:52,719
made it into two different movies, Cloak and Dagger and

859
00:44:53,559 --> 00:44:56,840
Fright Night. You know, the boy who cries wolf sees

860
00:44:57,199 --> 00:44:59,760
something out his back window which no one will believe

861
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,320
him about, and the murderer is trying to get him.

862
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:10,159
It's fantastically written, but for me. The Lost Boys, they

863
00:45:10,159 --> 00:45:14,159
took it up a notch. They were something I could

864
00:45:14,199 --> 00:45:17,599
identify with more like they made me want to be

865
00:45:17,679 --> 00:45:22,519
a vampire. They David Key for Sutherland's part, I mean

866
00:45:22,599 --> 00:45:26,079
Key for Sutherland to me is the movie. He is

867
00:45:26,159 --> 00:45:29,599
the one who defined and he had less lines than anybody.

868
00:45:29,679 --> 00:45:34,519
He just his presence, his looks, everything about him just

869
00:45:34,599 --> 00:45:36,360
made you want to be a part of it. And

870
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,800
that's exactly what he was supposed to be, right, He

871
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,519
was supposed to be somebody that enticed you to do

872
00:45:41,599 --> 00:45:44,639
something that logically no one would choose to do, and

873
00:45:44,679 --> 00:45:47,719
he did such a fantastic job with it. So, even

874
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,960
though I don't think the script is quite as good

875
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,360
for The Lost Boys, if I got to pick you,

876
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,320
if I'm gonna watch one or the other, I'm gonna

877
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:57,800
I'm gonna pick Lost Boys to watch.

878
00:45:58,039 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 2: Okay, here's where I come down. Okay, you pretty much

879
00:46:01,519 --> 00:46:02,639
stole all my thunder there.

880
00:46:02,679 --> 00:46:06,039
Speaker 1: But okay, I tried to.

881
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 4: Get you to go fi no, no, no, this is

882
00:46:13,039 --> 00:46:16,239
the deal. I love both of these movies in a

883
00:46:16,559 --> 00:46:20,760
very equal sense. Half of my personality, like the nerd

884
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,639
half of me, the nerd half of me that likes

885
00:46:23,639 --> 00:46:26,880
to stay up late and watch old monster movies and

886
00:46:27,679 --> 00:46:30,400
geek out and think about what would happen if I

887
00:46:30,639 --> 00:46:32,760
vampire move next door to me. That part of me

888
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:39,880
loves Friday Night to death, the rock and roll, cool, motorcycle, rebellious,

889
00:46:40,159 --> 00:46:43,679
never Die, Never grow old, run away with the pretty girl.

890
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,960
That part of me loves Lost Boys. So it's a

891
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,800
real tough decision for me. I think these are both

892
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:49,599
sort of neck.

893
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 3: And neck, But neck and neck, he said, But if

894
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,480
I want to be honest, I think that Lost Boys

895
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,079
is my preferred movie.

896
00:47:00,199 --> 00:47:02,639
Speaker 2: It definitely had more of a cultural impact on me.

897
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:07,159
Speaker 4: Just from the cast and the style. The soundtrack is

898
00:47:07,199 --> 00:47:10,880
definitely one of my favorites of the eighties. The coolness

899
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,280
of the vampires in Lost Boys tips the.

900
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 2: Scales for me. It's the one I'm going to go to.

901
00:47:17,599 --> 00:47:21,519
Speaker 4: It has so much fun and the twist end and

902
00:47:21,599 --> 00:47:24,679
the fun characters and all the laughs. Of course, Friday

903
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,519
Night has that too, and I would definitely give a

904
00:47:27,559 --> 00:47:31,039
recommendation to both of these, but Lost Boys I think.

905
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 2: Is the more enjoyable of these two. But that's where

906
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,039
I am. Where are you, guys?

907
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 4: We sure like to hear when people disagree with us

908
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,159
so way in on Facebook, way in on Twitter.

909
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 2: Send us an email. We want to hear from you.

910
00:47:45,119 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 1: Do not forget to follow our page on Facebook. We've

911
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,039
been overwhelmed by the support we've gotten on Facebook as well.

912
00:47:51,559 --> 00:47:58,800
All right, right, Jason's been fun man CD.

913
00:47:54,159 --> 00:48:02,639
Speaker 5: Yeah. Shoot,