Speaker 1: Welcome to Dorky Out.
Speaker 2: My name is Sonya Mansfield and white sharks are dangerous.
Speaker 2: I know him, my father, my brother, myself, they're murderers.
Speaker 2: Joining me is my podcasting sister from another mister and
Speaker 2: the coast of dorky Out. Margot d Hello, my friend Daddy.
Speaker 3: Look at the fish. Holy shit.
Speaker 1: Another favorite moment.
Speaker 3: We are.
Speaker 2: Everybody's talking about Jaws right now because it's celebrating its
Speaker 2: fiftieth anniversary. But we're not like everyone else. We're gonna
Speaker 2: dork out about nineteen eighty three's Jaws. Three d Woo
Speaker 2: why Not? Directed by Joe Alves, screenplay by Richard Matheson,
Speaker 2: Carl getlub I think is how you pronounce it? And
Speaker 2: it stars Dennis Quaid, little baby Dennis Quaid. That's Armstrong,
Speaker 2: a guy with the best name in the business. Simon McCorkindale.
Speaker 3: You don't know about corkandale. No oh, he said a
Speaker 3: lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: I feel like, did he play this kind of character alive?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Guy, yeah yeah?
Speaker 2: And then Lewis Scott said, Junior fresh off his oscar
Speaker 2: wind for oh everywhere else to go?
Speaker 3: That's Richard, but anyway for.
Speaker 2: An officer and a gentleman and a little baby. Leah
Speaker 2: Thompson adorable. Everybody drink. Let's start with Let's start with
Speaker 2: this like we always do. Did you see this in
Speaker 2: the theater?
Speaker 3: No, no way, No, I did not either, and it
Speaker 3: did eighty eight million dollars, which is like shocking to
Speaker 3: me because it's terrible.
Speaker 2: I mean, just it's a it's yeah, spoiler everybody, it's
Speaker 2: pretty terrible. I also didn't see it in the theater,
Speaker 2: but it was on HBO all the time when I
Speaker 2: was a kid, and I watched it a lot because
Speaker 2: it was just on and so I was surprised during
Speaker 2: this rewatch how much of it I remembered. And I
Speaker 2: do want to say, we're gonna shit all over this movie.
Speaker 2: I'm sure, but I will. Here's a few good things.
Speaker 2: I actually think Dennis Quaid and Best Armstrong have good chemistry.
Speaker 3: Yes, but he's tweaked out of his mind.
Speaker 4: You could tell for sure. He later said I was
Speaker 4: on cocaine.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, yeah, I'm guessing he's real slim and moving fast.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, uh, they're actually playing They're playing a couple
Speaker 2: that actually seems to like each other. I was like,
Speaker 2: the bar is so low you guys that I'm willing
Speaker 2: to be like, that's a good thing. And then Leah
Speaker 2: Thompson is adorable, like, yeah, I'm all, this is pretty
Speaker 2: much it. If it maybe if it wasn't a Jaws movie,
Speaker 2: and maybe if it didn't have the terrible three D effects,
Speaker 2: maybe this movie would have a better reputation, like a
Speaker 2: like a deep bluesy or the Meg or something like
Speaker 2: a silly goof. But because it's Jaws, like it's it's
Speaker 2: nowhere near Jaws. That's the problem. It's never gonna be Jaws.
Speaker 2: It's a bad movie.
Speaker 3: It's yeah, it's a shitty film. And I don't think
Speaker 3: I understand even I'm actually confused by it. So you're
Speaker 3: gonna have to help me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we're gonna we're gonna go through it. So
Speaker 2: because all of the Jaws movies seem to think that
Speaker 2: we super care about the Brody family, and so this
Speaker 2: one is now the third one that has the grown
Speaker 2: Brodie children now, and one of them is Dennis Quaid
Speaker 2: and he's playing Mike, I think, right, Mike, m hm yeah, Michael.
Speaker 1: Oh old whatever.
Speaker 3: Okay, first question, yes, how old are they and how
Speaker 3: old were they when they were attacked by the shark
Speaker 3: seventy five. Yeah, because it's eight years later and he's
Speaker 3: like got stubble.
Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, he looks like he's thirty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've clearly there's something in the Yeah, there's something
Speaker 2: in the water at Amity Island because they're all aging rapidly.
Speaker 2: I think he was fifteen or sixteen in Jaws maybe.
Speaker 3: I think that's Sonya. I think he's like twelve or thirteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it's little and then the littlest one.
Speaker 2: He should be like fifteen or sixteen by this point,
Speaker 2: but now.
Speaker 3: Yeah by this point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's like twenty three or twenty four at
Speaker 2: this like, yeah, he's a.
Speaker 3: Rat student and he's the guy Bob that hit on
Speaker 3: Barbara on one day at a time. He was the
Speaker 3: neighbor that always had a crush on Valleie Burton.
Speaker 4: Ellie, I don't even remember that.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I watched that show so much. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So we meet Mike and my works at like a
Speaker 2: sea it's the Sea World.
Speaker 1: It's like a.
Speaker 2: Big marine park in Florida, and it's got like these
Speaker 2: underwater tunnels and lagoons. His baby brother Sean also from
Speaker 2: the other movies is coming for some reason.
Speaker 1: Now he's a cowboy.
Speaker 2: I don't, sonya, you can't.
Speaker 3: But the ocean's full of murderers, Sonya, he can't go
Speaker 3: in there.
Speaker 2: But Leah Thompson is so adorable that she can cure
Speaker 2: men of their phobias, Like he is pretty quick to
Speaker 2: throw his phobias aside for a little piece of Leah Thompson.
Speaker 1: And I kind of get it, because again, she get it.
Speaker 1: She's adorable.
Speaker 2: And then Bess Armstrong is like a biologist who works
Speaker 2: at the marine park as well. She's like training dolphins
Speaker 2: and killer whales and all of these.
Speaker 3: He's a doctor, right, they keep saying doctor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess she's yeah, probably has a PhD and
Speaker 2: marine biology.
Speaker 3: So she's gonna be like twenty thirty maybe, right, I mean,
Speaker 3: but she looks like she's twenty two. Yes, absolutely, I
Speaker 3: mean maybe she's a genius. She could be a genie
Speaker 3: enius and.
Speaker 2: Totally like she could be doogie howser.
Speaker 3: She could be a doogie howser type. Okay, I'll let
Speaker 3: that go.
Speaker 2: But the ages are like, yeah, no, you are correct.
Speaker 2: The ages are not remotely they don't line up. No,
Speaker 2: And then we have Lewis Gossit Junior, who is the
Speaker 2: one who I guess designed the park and also runs
Speaker 2: the park.
Speaker 3: And then.
Speaker 2: Simon Matt Corkindale shows up and he's like an adventurer
Speaker 2: who also takes nature footage, and he's there to promote
Speaker 2: the park.
Speaker 4: Question Mark.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what he's doing there, but okay.
Speaker 3: He was on Falcon Crest. Oh, okay, I'm on the Nile.
Speaker 3: He did a lot of things in the early eighties,
Speaker 3: but he was always like a snooty, good looking British guy.
Speaker 2: Okay, So there's a lot of random things in this movie,
Speaker 2: like it opens under because Animal.
Speaker 3: Sorry, he was Manimal.
Speaker 2: Manimal was a show that existed, y'all. You should if
Speaker 2: you don't know it.
Speaker 3: He was also on Dynasty Jesus.
Speaker 2: Art, Okay, I probably saw him on I Dynasty wasn't
Speaker 2: a show I watched all the time, but I watched
Speaker 2: it sometimes.
Speaker 1: Oh I was, so I did. Yeah, I probably saw
Speaker 1: him there anyway. He definitely looked familiar.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he had a career in the eighties.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so it.
Speaker 2: I guess we should talk about the Three D as well,
Speaker 2: Like there were a ton of movies in nineteen eighty
Speaker 2: three that were doing the three D. There was like
Speaker 2: a Friday of the thirteenth. I wrote down a bunch
Speaker 2: of them. There was a bunch of them. Shit, where
Speaker 2: are they? Oh Amity Sorry, there's Amityville three D.
Speaker 3: There was.
Speaker 2: Friday the thirteenth three D. There was what was here's
Speaker 2: another one? Metal Storm was in three D. Starchaser three D.
Speaker 2: All these things were in three D, especially in eighty three.
Speaker 2: That was their big marketing scheme. I don't know what
Speaker 2: these effects look like in the theater with an actual
Speaker 2: three D because I've never seen it that way, but
Speaker 2: they're terrible when you watch it, like it is real bad.
Speaker 2: It looks like a paper cutout shark is coming after people.
Speaker 2: It's it's pretty ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Like they're not good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the special effects are not great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'd have to acknowledge that off the bat
Speaker 2: and the whole movie opens like underwater and I guess
Speaker 2: we're we're from the shark perspective, and then it like
Speaker 2: sees a fish and then it fully frunch is a
Speaker 2: fish like it's a chip. It's like crunch, and then
Speaker 2: we get like a floating fish head and it's like,
Speaker 2: who the fishheads float.
Speaker 1: It's all in three D, but it's not really. And
Speaker 1: then we see people like.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of group water skiing things going on
Speaker 2: and they're being stalked by the Have you ever been
Speaker 2: to a park like this, by the way, these kinds
Speaker 2: of parks, Okay.
Speaker 3: Now I don't like them because because of the the whales.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the killer whales.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the killer whales. I feel bad for them. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And my dad hates these shows. My dad's just not
Speaker 3: into it.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, we had one you probably remember this. We
Speaker 2: had one in the Bay Area called Marine World Africa USA.
Speaker 3: Oh God that where was that located?
Speaker 1: It was in Valao, Oh and it was that was
Speaker 1: its name.
Speaker 2: I was just talking about this with a friend the
Speaker 2: other day, Like Marine World Africa, let's say, and there's.
Speaker 3: A lot going on.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of words there, and it was like
Speaker 2: and it had like killer whales and dolphin shows and
Speaker 2: all that, and then it had like like parrots and
Speaker 2: penguins and there was like water skiing and like it
Speaker 2: was a very weird mix. Now it's like Discovery Kingdom.
Speaker 2: They've dropped the Marine World USA Africa, USA.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what.
Speaker 2: That means Africa, USA.
Speaker 3: But right.
Speaker 1: We went when I was a kid.
Speaker 2: I can't recall ever going back as an adult because, yeah,
Speaker 2: those kinds of things bumm me out. Now, the dolphins
Speaker 2: and the killer they're too smart for this stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they get well we know now that they
Speaker 3: get really stressed out. Yeah, like they have to have
Speaker 3: tombs and stuff like that because they want to perform,
Speaker 3: because they want to do good by us, they want
Speaker 3: to impress us, and to make them do it every
Speaker 3: single day on the dime like they should do it
Speaker 3: is very stressful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really depressing. I get the same way at
Speaker 2: the zoo. By the way, when I see the gorillas
Speaker 2: and stuff, I'm like, they're too smart for this. This
Speaker 2: is really depressing. So yeah, I don't really go to
Speaker 2: those things. But we get this, like we get an
Speaker 2: overview of the park. We have a nice little like, uh, explanation,
Speaker 2: so that we know what the park layout is. They
Speaker 2: show us a model and they're like, and here's the
Speaker 2: here's the center of the park, and here's all the
Speaker 2: tunnels and they're underwater and all of this stuff. And
Speaker 2: then Dennis Quaid is Mike Brodie and he like I
Speaker 2: don't know. He's like, he helped build the park. He
Speaker 2: runs the maintenance team. I'm not quite sure what he
Speaker 2: does there, to be honest, but.
Speaker 1: Fine.
Speaker 2: And then Bess Armstrong is the Smurtie who actually trains
Speaker 2: all the animals or something. What happens then, Oh, they
Speaker 2: like go out to a bar for some reason. Sean
Speaker 2: is now a cowboy and that's where he.
Speaker 3: Meets He's rejecting the water. So nyah, he's rejecting New
Speaker 3: England and everything associated with it.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, never mind that in part four he is now
Speaker 2: back on Amity Island as a sheriff like his dad,
Speaker 2: like I apparently.
Speaker 3: The same actor.
Speaker 1: No, no, but it's the same character.
Speaker 2: Because these moves, the stories, and the timelines don't line
Speaker 2: up at all between all of these movies. I watched
Speaker 2: all of the movies because that felt like a thing
Speaker 2: to do. And it's a holiday weekend and I love
Speaker 2: to watch Jaws on fourth of July, so I just
Speaker 2: watched them all and they when you line them up,
Speaker 2: they don't make sense, even more so than the fact
Speaker 2: that they already don't make sense.
Speaker 1: They go to a bar.
Speaker 2: There's a thing with Leah Thompson where they're playing some
Speaker 2: game I've never heard of where they basically push each
Speaker 2: other over.
Speaker 3: What is that game? It was like Mum and Schance
Speaker 3: or mine. I don't know what it is, but it's
Speaker 3: like you put your hands against somebody and you're pushing.
Speaker 3: You're pressing really really hard and trying to knock them over.
Speaker 3: And she's like five foot two and this guy's like
Speaker 3: six foot something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's able to win.
Speaker 2: She's like, it's a game of balance, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I don't know what this game is.
Speaker 1: I have never heard of this game, but the man
Speaker 1: seems to think we all know what it is.
Speaker 3: And it's also like, honey, it's a place for creepy
Speaker 3: guys to make you touch them. Totally get it together.
Speaker 3: Leah Thompson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no.
Speaker 2: So Mike walks up, they play their stupid game, and
Speaker 2: he's like, let me buy you drink. So she goes
Speaker 2: back and sits with them. They all drink their like
Speaker 2: Miller Lites or whatever, and then she is now gonna
Speaker 2: take Mike homeb but she takes them back to the
Speaker 2: park and he's like, I don't go in the water
Speaker 2: because you know he's lived through Jaws one and two, where.
Speaker 4: She couldn't have.
Speaker 3: He could have said, like, yeah, I saw people get
Speaker 3: or by sharks and water, so it's not my thing.
Speaker 3: And it happened close to shore, and she'd be like,
Speaker 3: oh gotcha, yeah, okay no, And instead she she minimizes
Speaker 3: it right away, really really about to walk into the water.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna get practically naked and get in the water.
Speaker 2: And he's like and like chases her into the water anyway,
Speaker 2: Thompson by the way, way, But yeah, she I get it,
Speaker 2: like she's gonna yeah, she's adorable. Everybody drinks. She's going
Speaker 2: to cure you of your childhood trauma. And he, you know,
Speaker 2: he's chasing her into the water. They go in the
Speaker 2: water blah blah blah, like Mike and.
Speaker 1: What's her name?
Speaker 2: I for k show up and then ruin his chance
Speaker 2: to get some by like and then they all splash
Speaker 2: each other and have a good time like you do.
Speaker 2: And then we meet the cute dolphins, Cindy and Sandy.
Speaker 2: The dolphins.
Speaker 3: Yeah I loved me too.
Speaker 2: They're so smart and they're doing their spins and they're
Speaker 2: being all cute and they're you know, being very flipper like,
Speaker 2: and they're like and doing their things.
Speaker 1: There's also a story.
Speaker 2: There's a side story about like a waitress who works
Speaker 2: at the local bar, whose boyfriend, Yes, sir.
Speaker 3: She's wearing a fantastic outfit. I have to say, starting
Speaker 3: off the strike top with that that Pet Benatar look
Speaker 3: that she's Yeah, Dan, I was like, that was the
Speaker 3: height of chic to me in nineteen eighty three.
Speaker 2: Yes, she is one hundred, got the Pat benattar striped
Speaker 2: leopard shirt, stone.
Speaker 3: Cold nineteen eighty three bucks.
Speaker 1: Yes, she's got the headband.
Speaker 2: And she's like, you tell that man, you know, if
Speaker 2: he's messing around with the girl at the souvenir shop,
Speaker 2: that he's a dead man.
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: And then she shows up the next day and she's
Speaker 2: like throwing luggage at Dennis Quaid and it's like, you
Speaker 2: tell that man, it's over between us. And they're like, uh,
Speaker 2: he never came home, he never punched out whatever. So
Speaker 2: Dennis Quad and Best Armstrong are.
Speaker 1: Like, we might want to search the logo.
Speaker 2: Maybe he's dead, and they get in this I don't know,
Speaker 2: like ocean gates submersible thing and go under the water.
Speaker 3: I thought the thing.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm like, see that guy wasn't some visionary.
Speaker 3: Hi, I had some PTSD looking at him like no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: no no no, don't get in there.
Speaker 2: Don't get in there.
Speaker 1: It's controlled by a joystick.
Speaker 2: Just get in there.
Speaker 3: Just run by an asshole doesn't know what he's doing.
Speaker 3: Who puts a woman in accounting and it's her a
Speaker 3: milet because he wants some chicks in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why not?
Speaker 2: So they get into their little submersible and they're searching
Speaker 2: the lagoon and the dolphins are like running around. Because
Speaker 2: the dolphins are smart, they're like, oh, there's totally a shark.
Speaker 2: There's a shark running around here that the people are like,
Speaker 2: that's weird.
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 2: Like a body, Like the body just shows up like
Speaker 2: like a gross head, you know, and they're like who.
Speaker 1: And immediately, like.
Speaker 2: The mccork and dale characters, like, we should find the
Speaker 2: shark that's loose in this place and we.
Speaker 1: Should kill it on camera for publicity.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's make a special out of this because that'll
Speaker 3: get people to show up. Because he's just obsessed with
Speaker 3: getting pople to show up. It's like, not only we
Speaker 3: not only we have a shark. We just blew the
Speaker 3: ship out of it in.
Speaker 2: Front of let's let's fully murder it. Let's just murder
Speaker 2: it on camera. People will love it. They will love it.
Speaker 3: In case, there was That's Incredible, Yes, and then there
Speaker 3: was the Animal show, Amazing Animals. It was amazing.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: So one of one of the there was a there
Speaker 2: was a show on I want to say in the seventies,
Speaker 2: and there was That's Incredible, and then there was those
Speaker 2: Amazing Animals and it was all shit. It was all
Speaker 2: just nature, shit about animals. And one of the hosts
Speaker 2: was Burgess Meredith and he would come out with a penguin.
Speaker 3: Remember, Yes, I got an autograph of him because I
Speaker 3: went to a signing that he did because.
Speaker 2: He played the penguin and batman.
Speaker 1: You see.
Speaker 3: I didn't make that connection. My parents did, but he
Speaker 3: but he was like King of Prussia, mall or something,
Speaker 3: and he did a signing, so I got I knew
Speaker 3: him because of a Rocky Yes, yeah, he's Micky Micky. Yeah, anyway,
Speaker 3: I was, I was. I was all in with Virgis Meredith. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was trying to remember who the other hosts were, but.
Speaker 3: There was John Davidson, there was Kathy Lee Gifford. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there was Frank Tarkenton. Oh that's right, okay, Oh that
Speaker 3: could be real people. I get them all mixed. There
Speaker 3: was Skip something or other. Oh yeah, Sarah, Sarah.
Speaker 2: Purcell, definitely someone named Skip.
Speaker 3: Yes. It was like these not like even a variety show,
Speaker 3: but there was these shows with a studio audience and
Speaker 3: they had like four five people with helmet hair and
Speaker 3: big teeth and sweaters, and they just introduced clips and
Speaker 3: it would be like I was struck by lightning twelve times.
Speaker 3: You want to see the hat I was wearing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do, I guess.
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, hell, yeah, I do. I could
Speaker 3: catch a you know, you could shoot this arrow and
Speaker 3: I could catch it in mid air. And then they
Speaker 3: would here's an animal segment, like look at this boa
Speaker 3: constrictor it ate a water buffalo, look at that, you
Speaker 3: know whatever, and we.
Speaker 2: Were we were grateful for this entertainment because there's nothing
Speaker 2: else exactly. Again, we had three channels and they were
Speaker 2: all showing a version of this.
Speaker 3: If one night there blowing up a shark, I guarantee
Speaker 3: you my brothers would have been there. My dad and
Speaker 3: my brothers would have been their front and center for
Speaker 3: that show totally.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my dad Actually, my dad would have like taken
Speaker 2: a day off of work to watch.
Speaker 1: Yes, Like it would have been.
Speaker 4: And they would have had people over, had beer, pizza.
Speaker 3: It would have been a thing.
Speaker 2: Yes, So that's his His thing is like we should
Speaker 2: find the shark and we should kill it, and it
Speaker 2: for the publicity, and Kay, the best Armstrong characters like,
Speaker 2: no way, we need to catch it, Like nobody has
Speaker 2: a great white shark in captivity, you know, for science.
Speaker 1: We should do this for science.
Speaker 3: And she doesn't think, like maybe they shouldn't have a
Speaker 3: great white shark in captivity. Yeah, maybe we shouldn't like
Speaker 3: be responsible for one.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then Dennis Quaid's like they're murderers.
Speaker 3: He's tweets murders, murderers, murderers. He's got the little old
Speaker 3: McDonald's like coffee spoon, you know, filled with cope, but
Speaker 3: they have those coffee stirs.
Speaker 1: He's just like it's just snort murderers.
Speaker 2: So and then they're gonna like they're gonna find the shark,
Speaker 2: and like mccuirk and Dale's like I'm gonna get this
Speaker 2: grenade just in case. I'm like, uh, that could like
Speaker 2: blow up the whole fucking park, and they're like, maybe
Speaker 2: we don't blow up the whole fucking park and he's like,
Speaker 2: if you insist.
Speaker 1: So then they catch the shark.
Speaker 2: Basically they drug it and catch it, and then it's
Speaker 2: not They're like, but is it the shark, Like maybe
Speaker 2: we've caught a shark, but not the shark because they're
Speaker 2: like it's big, but it's not that big. And there's
Speaker 2: this whole thing where like they they open the park
Speaker 2: and Lewis Gossa Junior's like, now put that shark in
Speaker 2: a pool where people can see it.
Speaker 1: We want the publicity, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: And then Best Armstrong runs to the pool where they've
Speaker 2: got the shark, and immediately the shark goes belly up
Speaker 2: in front of all of these people. It's so odd,
Speaker 2: and a kid starts crying and I was like, now
Speaker 2: all of those kids are gonna need therapy. All of
Speaker 2: them is so awful, Like they're like, ooh, shark, oh
Speaker 2: the kids all mommy, it starts correct.
Speaker 1: It's so awful.
Speaker 2: It's awful. I don't know why the shark died by
Speaker 2: the way, sadness, embarrassment.
Speaker 3: And we.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just holding its breath.
Speaker 2: It's like so just it's the kid crying that gets
Speaker 2: me every like I'm such a monster with the kid cries.
Speaker 2: And I was like, anyway, the shark dies, it's very
Speaker 2: sad and now all those kids are going to go
Speaker 2: to therapy and be like I think my sadness started
Speaker 2: when my mom took me to Marine World Africa.
Speaker 3: USA, USA. They're like, wait, where was this again?
Speaker 2: And it was in America, USA.
Speaker 3: Vallejo, where all the penguins should be living.
Speaker 2: Yes, it was in Africa, USA. And the shark went
Speaker 2: belly up right in front of me. Well, all that's
Speaker 2: going on again. Leah Thompson has now lured the little
Speaker 2: brother into a water bumper boat into the water again
Speaker 2: against his better judgment.
Speaker 3: When he's told her I'm terrified of the water because
Speaker 3: I saw people murdered in it. I'd rather not And
Speaker 3: she's like, bitch, I work at this water park. I am.
Speaker 4: What is her?
Speaker 3: What is it? What is it that she's called? She's
Speaker 3: doing that she.
Speaker 1: Works in like a water ski show and then.
Speaker 3: She gets a water ski show right like you know,
Speaker 3: vacation video with the go gos, Like yeah, She's like,
Speaker 3: this is my whole life, Like we're gonna have to
Speaker 3: I'm the cuter one, so we're gonna have to be
Speaker 3: not even in the middle. You gotta come like where
Speaker 3: I am.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she is not interested in doing any activity that
Speaker 2: doesn't involve the water.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: If you want to get with Leah Thompson is get
Speaker 2: in the water.
Speaker 3: Your feet will always be clean. He'll just always like
Speaker 3: have you know fingers.
Speaker 1: That's it. You will always have pruned up, stuffed up.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then.
Speaker 2: What happens, uh there's oh, then there's we see like customers,
Speaker 2: like visitors to the park, they're walking through the underwater tunnels,
Speaker 2: which San Francisco has something like this. We have like
Speaker 2: a big aquarium down at like Peer thirty nine and
Speaker 2: they have an underwater tunnel.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't Cony Island too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they are very cool, like.
Speaker 3: It's it's neat, it is pretty nifty.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean as someone who loves to watch nature documentaries,
Speaker 2: especially about the ocean, like I think stuff.
Speaker 1: Like that is cool.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't put on a scuba suit and go down. No,
Speaker 2: I'll walk through your tunnel absolutely, like no, I don't, no,
Speaker 2: thank you. So people are like walking through the tunnel
Speaker 2: and like a dead body like show up in the window.
Speaker 2: And then these girls push one of their friends up
Speaker 2: against the glass, and I was like, fucking mean. It
Speaker 2: is so mean, and I'm like again, more customers that
Speaker 2: are gonna need therapy, Like that's gonna scar that girl
Speaker 2: for life.
Speaker 1: It's such mean girl behavior that they do that to her.
Speaker 2: And that's when they realize there's a bigger shark loose
Speaker 2: in the park and.
Speaker 3: A mama shark.
Speaker 1: A mama shark.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's very protective of her baby. I don't know
Speaker 2: if that's really a thing for sharks, but that's fine,
Speaker 2: let's just pretend it is.
Speaker 4: I guess.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, like Bess Armstrong gives a big speech about like,
Speaker 2: you know, this man was killed inside the park, the
Speaker 2: baby was caught inside the park, the mother is inside
Speaker 2: the park, and then like right when she says that,
Speaker 2: the shark, like ha, like just shows he shows up
Speaker 2: at the window at the restaurant. Hello, great timing. The
Speaker 2: sharks should be in show business. And now because there's
Speaker 2: a shark in the park. Dennis Quaid's characters participating in
Speaker 2: the Grand Brody family tradition of yelling at people to
Speaker 2: get out of the water. So he's running around everybody out,
Speaker 2: running all over the park, like waving his arms in
Speaker 2: the air.
Speaker 3: Aren't the boys featured in the second one too, Yes, Brody,
Speaker 3: because I'm gonna watch the second one tonight and'll we
Speaker 3: watch it. But okay, so yeah, they've really really have
Speaker 3: been around murderous sharks.
Speaker 2: Yes, So by the time they've gotten to this one,
Speaker 2: they there's the shark and jaws that like eats the
Speaker 2: kid like in front of them at the that's on
Speaker 2: the raft, that very like sad moment where the little
Speaker 2: boy gets eaten on the raft, like people have been
Speaker 2: eaten by sharks right in front of them. The second one,
Speaker 2: they're out on boats like sailboats, and a shark is
Speaker 2: like stalking them, and like the little brother's babysitter or
Speaker 2: whatever gets eaten right in front of him, and like
Speaker 2: a bunch of Mike's friends get murdered in front of
Speaker 2: him by the eaten by the shark and all of
Speaker 2: this stuff. So the fact that either of them are
Speaker 2: even remotely near the water.
Speaker 3: Is astounding, Yes, exactly.
Speaker 2: And then by the fourth time, by the fourth one,
Speaker 2: they're still all working in the water.
Speaker 3: Right, but the shark follows them, right, just like the Bahamas.
Speaker 3: So there's a whole richer Jenny comedy routine about Jaws four.
Speaker 3: And he's just like, it's the revenge. It's personal, yes,
Speaker 3: And he's like, it's really if you just stay out
Speaker 3: of the water, you're gonna be okay. You don't see
Speaker 3: though it doesn't come out up on the sand, it's
Speaker 3: around the city and like terrorizes you.
Speaker 1: No, it's not a lamb shark, it's not a land sharks.
Speaker 3: As long as you just stay out of the water,
Speaker 3: you're gonna be okay. If you're brody, just don't go
Speaker 3: in the water. No, they can't.
Speaker 2: They literally moved to they they go. They go from
Speaker 2: one island to another island, and the shark from.
Speaker 3: New England to like a totally other like.
Speaker 2: It goes to the Bahamas, the Bahamas.
Speaker 3: That's a long way to go for a shark.
Speaker 1: And how does it know they're there?
Speaker 2: And it just does it just it could smell it,
Speaker 2: It could smell them.
Speaker 1: It must be it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And the fact that even then, like the character that
Speaker 2: Dennis Quaid plays in this one is in the fourth
Speaker 2: one and again he's still working in the water and
Speaker 2: the mom is like, maybe you don't work in the water,
Speaker 2: get another job, and he's like, nah, nah.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna let that bother me. No really the
Speaker 3: fifth time you said, saw somebody get eaten up?
Speaker 2: No, No, that's how he's decided to make his career there.
Speaker 2: And they've got like a five year old daughter who's
Speaker 2: just like in the water every fucking five seconds and
Speaker 2: in danger and almost eaten by a shark like multiple times.
Speaker 3: Looking at it. Here. Lance Guest plays Michael Brodie, Yes,
Speaker 3: in The Revenge. And there's Mario van Peoples. Oh wow,
Speaker 3: he's got us tonight.
Speaker 2: He's doing the Jamaican like the Bahama access.
Speaker 3: Lid Whitfield, Oh my god, Elevin Van People. He's got
Speaker 3: more vamp peoples.
Speaker 1: In it, okay, And Michael Kaine.
Speaker 3: I'm into it. I'm into it.
Speaker 2: Famously, Michael Caine could not go pick up his Oscar
Speaker 2: for Best Supporting Actor for Hannah and her Sisters because
Speaker 2: he was filming Jaws The Revenge.
Speaker 3: Look, the man has a very nice lifestyle to uphold,
Speaker 3: Yes he does. He's got a hot wife, yep, he
Speaker 3: you know, he's got shit to do so and English
Speaker 3: people that it's just like not a big deal, Like
Speaker 3: they just take the gig that's in front of them.
Speaker 2: You are gonna you are going to be rolling through
Speaker 2: part four, Like the mom is wearing like huge like
Speaker 2: sweaters with shoulder pads. I was like, girl, you're in
Speaker 2: the Bahamas. Everyone else is practically naked.
Speaker 3: And she was like one of my favorite people in
Speaker 3: the first one too, like she was the only one
Speaker 3: who had any common sense.
Speaker 1: Yes, no, yes, like.
Speaker 2: She's her and uh Royce Cider Shier Schiter schier, thank you.
Speaker 2: I not Rob Snyder by the way, which I accidentally
Speaker 2: put on Blue Sky.
Speaker 1: That was autocorrect's fault.
Speaker 2: I know who he is.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: They have a really lovely relationship in those movies, like
Speaker 2: fantastic relations and she was like the wife of one
Speaker 2: of the executives at the so people kind of said
Speaker 2: things like, oh, that's how she got the gig.
Speaker 3: No, she's fucking great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's really really good.
Speaker 3: Josh, she's really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is not a hot TAKEO is like a
Speaker 2: perfect movie, right, And it's because Jaws is so fucking
Speaker 2: great that one. We're not going to do an episode
Speaker 2: on Jaws, because what are we gonna say? Just it's
Speaker 2: a movie. Part we're like, it's so fucking great, but
Speaker 2: also like it's the casting is great, the relationships are great,
Speaker 2: the the stakes feel real, like when that little boy
Speaker 2: dies and then the mom like confronts him and all that.
Speaker 3: Alex Kittner's mother. Yes, we did an episode on book
Speaker 3: versus movie. Definitely check it out because we actually play
Speaker 3: audio from the book, which is terrible. Yes, and the
Speaker 3: movie's great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the movies, but those that shit is fucking real.
Speaker 2: And then you get all the stuff with Quint when
Speaker 2: they're on the boat and Richard Drive is just so
Speaker 2: funny and like it all just comes together so perfectly.
Speaker 2: And then the second one feels a bit more like
Speaker 2: a horror movie.
Speaker 3: Then it definitely leans into the scares more. But I
Speaker 3: think that I think it's a perfectly fine sequel. It's
Speaker 3: not as good as the original, but it's super scary, intense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's very entertaining. I was never bored and
Speaker 2: like I enjoyed watching it. And then I watched three
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, like this one again. If it
Speaker 2: wasn't a Jaws movie, if it was just like amusement Shark,
Speaker 2: I just made up a new name for this movie.
Speaker 2: Instead of Amusement Park, it's Amusement Shark. The movie might
Speaker 2: actually have a cult classic repuse represent reputation, that's the
Speaker 2: word I'm getting too like because it is a very
Speaker 2: silly movie.
Speaker 1: But we're enjoying this.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's stupid, but it's it's funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But because it's Jaws, there's a standard that we expect,
Speaker 2: and it's like it's not going to be that.
Speaker 1: It was never going to be that. The no and the.
Speaker 3: Jaw that the shark parts are the least scary, they're
Speaker 3: the most laughable. Yes, there's others that actually is more intense,
Speaker 3: but the shark stuff in this movie is so laughably bad.
Speaker 2: So bad because because of the three D as well,
Speaker 2: like they probably got the model of the shark looks
Speaker 2: better because they've made advances, but the three D of
Speaker 2: it makes it look really, really, really terrible. It's yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: So now Dennis Quaid's running around like yelling at people, ah,
Speaker 2: the water get all the way, even though there's a
Speaker 2: PA system and they could announce those things. He is
Speaker 2: just they decided that's the better way to spread the message.
Speaker 3: I guess.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the shark appears behind the water skiers are out
Speaker 2: there doing their human pyramids and all this stuff, which, again,
Speaker 2: water skiing was the thing in the seventies.
Speaker 3: Did you ever try it?
Speaker 2: My dad tried to teach me how to water ski. Yeah,
Speaker 2: when I was older. I can't do it. I don't
Speaker 2: have the upper boxy.
Speaker 3: No, I've tried twice. And I was older too. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like I was like late teen's, early twenties. I had
Speaker 3: a friend. We tried it with the two skis, and
Speaker 3: we tried it with the one ski, yeah, and I
Speaker 3: just was like, this is bullshit. I'll just hang on
Speaker 3: a rubber tube thing like, yes, I'll do that. I
Speaker 3: can handle that. But it's terrifying. Actually, I think.
Speaker 1: I'm not good. I could not do it.
Speaker 2: My dad was a really good water skier.
Speaker 3: Yeah that generation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was his thing in the seventies. Like he
Speaker 2: loved to water ski. He had a speed boat. We
Speaker 2: went to the beach like every weekend. Like he was
Speaker 2: very very good at that stuff, and his kids were not.
Speaker 3: It's yeah, it takes skill.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So the shark appears behind the water skiers and immediately
Speaker 2: they're like what but and they all just fall over.
Speaker 2: I don't think the shirk gets any of the water skiers,
Speaker 2: and so it's like, I'm gonna try these bumper boats.
Speaker 2: So then it goes over to the bumper boat area
Speaker 2: where Leah Thompson and the other guy like immediately fall
Speaker 2: in the water like immediately they and the shark immediately
Speaker 2: goes after them and bites Leah Thompson like on the
Speaker 2: leg and.
Speaker 3: It just bites her leg, doesn't bite off her leg.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't bite off her leg, just like she's
Speaker 2: got a big old gash in her leg. Scratch 'tis
Speaker 2: but a scratch, a mere flesh wound. And they they
Speaker 2: get her out and they get her in an ambulance
Speaker 2: and Sean's like I'm going with her in the ambulance.
Speaker 1: And it's like.
Speaker 2: Okay, goodbye Sean and Kelly. We never see them again, never.
Speaker 3: Seen him again. He's like, now doing know what I'm
Speaker 3: talking about? Yeah, He's like, you go back to the
Speaker 3: country please.
Speaker 1: He's like, I Am not going anywhere near the water
Speaker 1: until part four where I am now the sheriff.
Speaker 3: What if he became like a rodeo clown, so instead
Speaker 3: of like shark, he's got like bulls that chase.
Speaker 2: Him that would make more sense to me than but
Speaker 2: he doesn't part for yeah, and then Lewis Causa Junior
Speaker 2: gives this very calm speech over the pa like you know,
Speaker 2: that's very much like airplane basically where it was like,
Speaker 2: you know, does anyone know how to.
Speaker 1: Fly a plane?
Speaker 2: And everyone freaks out, Like it starts very calm, and
Speaker 2: he's like I need everyone to leave in an orderly fashion,
Speaker 2: and then we get the scene where the kid goes, look.
Speaker 4: At that fish.
Speaker 2: Look at that fish.
Speaker 4: Holy shit, Holy shit.
Speaker 2: The dad like makes a bee line for it. So
Speaker 2: all these people start making a run for it, and
Speaker 2: the sharks like, hmmm, tunnel and like immediately starts trying
Speaker 2: to bite the tunnels, and then you know, they start leaking,
Speaker 2: and then they're like blocking off the tunnels as they're flooding,
Speaker 2: and as the doors are closed. I posted this on
Speaker 2: social media, so go to my TikTok or whatever. But
Speaker 2: as the doors are closing and everything's flooding, this guy
Speaker 2: tries to run back into the tunnel and he's like,
Speaker 2: I need my wallet. I'm like, Bro's gonna hit the
Speaker 2: gift shop on his way out, Like why does he
Speaker 2: need his Like he's risking his life to get his way.
Speaker 1: He doesn't get maybe.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm totally gonna look up tonight I need that condom, Like,
Speaker 2: oh no, I have a Starbucks gift carden there. I
Speaker 2: don't know why he needed his wallet's so bad, but
Speaker 2: I love that. That is something that's in the movie.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then as all of this is having happening, McCorkindale,
Speaker 2: who I refuse to call by his character name, which
Speaker 2: is also Great fitz Royce, fitz Royce, and his and
Speaker 2: his man, his butler, I don't know who. He calls him, governor.
Speaker 2: He's like where what do you think, Governor?
Speaker 1: Like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: They decide that they are going to be live bait
Speaker 2: for the shark. They're going to lure John into a
Speaker 2: giant pipe, and they're gonna document it all of course,
Speaker 2: like on video or with pictures or whatever. And they
Speaker 2: get the shark into the pipe, but mccorkindale's rope snaps
Speaker 2: and then the shark eats him and we see it
Speaker 2: from like his point of view, like now we're in this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like now.
Speaker 2: We're the in the shark's mouth and the shark's like
Speaker 2: ro ro rock it's uh, it reminds me of Little
Speaker 2: Shop of Horrors when the dentist is, oh, yeah, it
Speaker 2: looks very much like that. And then like Dennis Quaid
Speaker 2: is down there and he's trying to like fix the
Speaker 2: pipes or something, and she's like, I need to get
Speaker 2: down there too, So she goes down there because why not.
Speaker 2: And there's a whole thing about they're gonna shut off
Speaker 2: the pumps and suffocate the sh shark and all this,
Speaker 2: but the shark gets out, and then the dolphins show
Speaker 2: up and like save Dennis Quaid and Best Armstrong. They
Speaker 2: like grab onto their fins and like rescue them again
Speaker 2: because dolphins. Yeah, because dolphins are really smart, they're able
Speaker 2: to like fix the tunnels, I guess, so then the
Speaker 2: people can get out of the tunnels. So all of
Speaker 2: those people are gonna live. I don't know if the
Speaker 2: guy got his wallet back, but they're at least gonna live.
Speaker 2: And then Best Armstrong, Dennis Quaid and Lewis Gossit Junior
Speaker 2: are in the control center and they're like, what are
Speaker 2: we gonna do now?
Speaker 1: And then it's like it goes slow motion and it's.
Speaker 3: Like, ah, shark.
Speaker 2: And we see the shark coming from like a million
Speaker 2: miles away, and it's really slow and it looks like
Speaker 2: a paper shark, and it's coming and it like breaks
Speaker 2: the glass and the glass is supposed to be like
Speaker 2: flying in our faces, like a big three D moment,
Speaker 2: but that's not gonna happen when you watch it at
Speaker 2: home on peacock and it immediately floods and I think
Speaker 2: it eats someone in there. It gets to chow down
Speaker 2: on something. By the way, the shark is just mindlessly
Speaker 2: eating because it hasn't even finished Fitzroy yet. Fitzroy is
Speaker 2: still just sitting there like in his mouth, and he
Speaker 2: eats this other guy. And they see that Fitzroy is
Speaker 2: in there and he's holding a grenade. So then Dennis
Speaker 2: Quaid like pulls the key on the grenade and the
Speaker 2: shark explodes.
Speaker 3: As it does as it.
Speaker 2: Does, and then they, like Dennis Quaid and Bess Armstrong
Speaker 2: float up to the top and they're like, I hope
Speaker 2: the dolphins are okay, and they call the dolphins and
Speaker 2: they both show up and they're doing their twirls in
Speaker 2: the air and she goes all right and like throws
Speaker 2: her arms up in the air like yay, And we
Speaker 2: get a freeze frame because it's the eighties and we
Speaker 2: get a freeze.
Speaker 1: Frame and.
Speaker 2: I don't know, is there a song playing over it?
Speaker 2: I didn't catch that, but I bet it was really good.
Speaker 4: And that's it.
Speaker 1: And that's the movie. It's not good, but it sucks.
Speaker 3: But it's kind of but it's kind of hilarious.
Speaker 2: It's kind of hilarious too. It's like, it's a bad movie,
Speaker 2: but I wasn't bored.
Speaker 3: It's got some style to it. It's they you know,
Speaker 3: they were trying. They were really trying to make something
Speaker 3: different and make it cool and make it different.
Speaker 1: And yeah, it doesn't work.
Speaker 3: It doesn't work. It doesn't make any sense. You don't
Speaker 3: care about anybody that dies. Nope, and no, there's lots
Speaker 3: of plot holes in there, and there's lots of things
Speaker 3: that just drop and it doesn't make any sense how
Speaker 3: a thirty year old Dennis Quaid is playing the sun
Speaker 3: that got to be the most.
Speaker 2: Actually, the only death that is sad is baby shark,
Speaker 2: Baby shark, baby shark, Like that's the only death that matters.
Speaker 1: I read that the.
Speaker 2: Original script for this do you know this already was
Speaker 2: a comedy? No Okay, So the original script was called
Speaker 2: called Jaws three People zero and it was going to
Speaker 2: be a National Lampoons movie, and John Hughes worked on
Speaker 2: the script.
Speaker 3: I thought it would have been funny.
Speaker 2: And apparently it's a really funny script. But then Universal
Speaker 2: was like, we're not quite ready to shit all over
Speaker 2: our franchise quite right.
Speaker 3: We might have another one in us before we do
Speaker 3: that exactly.
Speaker 2: It turned out they really didn't have another one in them,
Speaker 2: and they.
Speaker 3: Probably they should have made it.
Speaker 1: We already mentioned that Dennis Quaid was coked out of
Speaker 1: his gourd during.
Speaker 3: He admits it by the way.
Speaker 1: He says that we're not making that up.
Speaker 2: And then I think these kinds of awards are bullshit,
Speaker 2: But it was nominated for a bunch of Golden Raspberry awards.
Speaker 2: We don't like these kinds of awards. I think they're bullshit,
Speaker 2: but I want to call them out because they nominate
Speaker 2: the Dolphins for like Worst Newcomers, and I'm like, how
Speaker 2: fucking dare you?
Speaker 3: How dare the dolphins are the best part of the movie.
Speaker 2: I won't stand for dolphin slander.
Speaker 3: Do you know that Leah Thompson and Dennis Quaid were engaged.
Speaker 1: I did not know that they.
Speaker 3: Met on the set of this movie and they got
Speaker 3: engaged and then she dumped him.
Speaker 2: Oh that's probably a good choice on her. Yeah, like
Speaker 2: good call, Good Call Leah Thompson. She met her husband
Speaker 2: on some kind of wonderful.
Speaker 3: And the director.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're still married and happy.
Speaker 3: Very happy.
Speaker 1: Yeah for her, We love her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she did great.
Speaker 2: She is so great. So I have either we could
Speaker 2: do I've got shark movies or I've got a whole
Speaker 2: bunch of three D movies. Well, I kind of already
Speaker 2: listened to the three D movies.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did the shark movies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so other shark movies for us, unless we
Speaker 2: have anything else we want to say about jossh three D.
Speaker 3: No, I've exhausted it.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, so Deep Bluesy never seen it, okay, nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety nine. Very entertaining if you guys like entertaining shark movies. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's fine. The Meg, never seen it. I'm gonna suspect
Speaker 2: you probably haven't seen a lot of these.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm not a big sharks.
Speaker 2: I will say I watched The Meg last year with
Speaker 2: my thirteen year old and he really liked it. He
Speaker 2: thought it was super fun. And there's a scene where
Speaker 2: someone is in one of those giant bubbles that you
Speaker 2: put on the plastic bubbles that you put on the
Speaker 2: water and you can run in them. There's somebody in
Speaker 2: one of those in the shark jumps up and pops
Speaker 2: the bubble and eats the guy, and my son thought
Speaker 2: that was the funniest thing he'd ever seen.
Speaker 1: He laughed so hard. Open Water, I've seen that one.
Speaker 3: That one terrified me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really scary, and it's based.
Speaker 3: On a true story. A couple they were in Australia
Speaker 3: and they were snorkeling or deep diving, and the company
Speaker 3: that took them out forgot about the two of them, yep,
Speaker 3: and they just took off and these poor people like
Speaker 3: basically drowned, starved to death.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were trapped in the middle of nowhere. And
Speaker 2: in the movie that I think they get surrounded by sharks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so intense.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I didn't see this one, but I heard it's
Speaker 2: good too. The shallows never seen it. That's the one
Speaker 2: with Blake Lively and she's on a rock and it's
Speaker 2: surrounded by sharks. Forty down dope.
Speaker 1: Sorry, No, that's the one with.
Speaker 2: Mandy Moore and she's like a shark cage and I
Speaker 2: believe she's forty meters down.
Speaker 3: And then we don't know what a meter is. I'm American.
Speaker 1: And then there's Shark Tale.
Speaker 3: Never seen it?
Speaker 2: Okay, that's an animated movie. Yeah, I didn't see it
Speaker 2: either because I don't want to. Last year a movie
Speaker 2: came out called Under Paris. What And it's sharks that
Speaker 2: are swimming around Paris?
Speaker 3: You mean the sin I guess so, okay.
Speaker 2: All right, the Reef another one that I don't know
Speaker 2: anything about.
Speaker 3: Nope.
Speaker 2: Earlier this year one came out called Into the Deep Nope,
Speaker 2: and it has Richard Dreyfus in it.
Speaker 3: I've seen the Deep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've seen The Deep. And then this one didn't
Speaker 2: really play in theaters. But obviously I have to mention
Speaker 2: it Sharknado.
Speaker 3: Oh, well, because your friend is the director.
Speaker 2: Yes, my friend Anthony Fronte directed the Sharknado movies. And
Speaker 2: actually his new movie is a shark movie too, called
Speaker 2: Great White Waters and it's playing on two B came
Speaker 2: out on fourth of July. Aw, if you want to
Speaker 2: see another shark movie. I haven't watched it yet because
Speaker 2: I had to watch just three D but I will
Speaker 2: watch it.
Speaker 1: I will watch it. That's our list.
Speaker 3: Do you want to hear the top ten songs for
Speaker 3: when this came out?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't wait.
Speaker 3: So it's middle of July ninety eight three. This is
Speaker 3: the American Top forty list, So we're going top ten.
Speaker 3: Really great list, by the way. Number ten Donna Summer
Speaker 3: she works hard for the money.
Speaker 1: I love that song, love it, great video too.
Speaker 3: Number nine Stevie Nicks stand Back.
Speaker 2: I loved the Stevie Nicks album. I had the cassette tape.
Speaker 3: Do you know Prince did the the instrumentation for this,
Speaker 3: like the organ sounds.
Speaker 2: They not know that, but that would make sense, okay.
Speaker 3: Stevie was a huge Prince fan, and she sent him
Speaker 3: like a mash note like I love you, I think
Speaker 3: you're awesome, And he wrote her back and Hey, anytime
Speaker 3: you want to work, let me know, and she said, actually,
Speaker 3: there's the song I'm working on and I can't figure
Speaker 3: it out. And she said, Prince showed up like middle
Speaker 3: of the night. They're in New York and he went
Speaker 3: into the studio and two hours later, what you hear
Speaker 3: stand back, that's what Prince did, and then he left
Speaker 3: and nobody could figure out how we did it. He
Speaker 3: that guy wore he's a genius. Yes all he worked
Speaker 3: all the time, but that's a Prince thing. Uh. Number
Speaker 3: eight Duran Durant Is there something I should know? I
Speaker 3: love Daran Duran Duran. I love the song. Number seven
Speaker 3: Madness Our House.
Speaker 2: I loved Madness too, same love them.
Speaker 3: This is number six. This is all great songs. The
Speaker 3: Kinks come Dancing.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's a good song.
Speaker 1: I love that one too.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm gonna love every one of these songs.
Speaker 3: I know it. Yeah. Number five Michael Jackson, want to
Speaker 3: be starting something?
Speaker 2: Well, you couldn't get away from a song. You couldn't
Speaker 2: get away from thriller like it was everywhere.
Speaker 3: Number four Sergio Mendes Never Going to Let You Go.
Speaker 3: It was one of those ballads.
Speaker 1: It's a total slow dance song.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Number three Irene Kara Flashdance. What a Feeling?
Speaker 1: Never heard of it?
Speaker 3: Right? Number two I love this song Eddie Grant Electric Avenue.
Speaker 2: That song is dope's pop.
Speaker 3: And number one The Police Every Breath You Take.
Speaker 1: Such a romantic song.
Speaker 3: We all thought it was, and then when you actually
Speaker 3: listen to the lyrics, you're like, oh, no, he's a stalker.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah. I remember driving somewhere with my mom's
Speaker 2: best friend and her boyfriend were in the front seat
Speaker 2: and listening to this song and they were like, it's
Speaker 2: our song, and I, even as a kid, I was
Speaker 2: like like really, I was like like confused.
Speaker 3: Dog. Then it became I'll be missing you by oh
Speaker 3: the pig p Didy. Fuck that guy, yeah, fuck him? Anyway,
Speaker 3: Well we'll ignore that. We're not going to go into that.
Speaker 3: That's not what a creep?
Speaker 1: Yeah? What else are you jorking out about? My friend?
Speaker 3: I was in the mood for, you know, to cheering up.
Speaker 3: You know what, what can I binge that I've watched
Speaker 3: before but I haven't seen it in a while. That'll
Speaker 3: put me in a good mood. And I found Shit's
Speaker 3: Creak and I put on and I started with season
Speaker 3: three because I feel like the first season into the
Speaker 3: second they're kind of just feeling their way. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: like season three is when they all are just running
Speaker 3: in all cylinders. Everyone knows their job, what they're doing.
Speaker 3: I think they're the funniest goddamn actors.
Speaker 4: Ever.
Speaker 3: I love that and it has so much heart to it. Yes,
Speaker 3: you just the love stories are really sweet and I
Speaker 3: just was gobbling it up and it's just been amazing. Oh.
Speaker 2: I love that. That's definitely one of those shows that
Speaker 2: rewards repeat viewing.
Speaker 3: It really does like you find things that you didn't
Speaker 3: catch the first time. So I recommend that if you're
Speaker 3: looking for because they're also like twenty two minutes a piece,
Speaker 3: Like it's just it's perfect. I've been watching clips from
Speaker 3: the Glastonbury Festival and it's Olivia Rodrigo is fucking incredible.
Speaker 3: Her set was incredible, Loly Young was there, Neil Young
Speaker 3: was there.
Speaker 4: They've had like all these amazing artists.
Speaker 3: I've just been watching clips of it and there's just like,
Speaker 3: you know, thousands of thousands of thousands of people in
Speaker 3: the audience, including Paul McCartney who goes every year and
Speaker 3: just hangs out and nobody gets stumped, no one gets killed.
Speaker 3: It's just like there's mud and they're all wearing their
Speaker 3: wellies and they're just having a great time. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: then Sinners is on Max.
Speaker 1: Now, oh my god, so yeah, of.
Speaker 3: Course I had to watch it again. I've had it
Speaker 3: on the other day, and then last night I saw
Speaker 3: a Complete Unknown, which is on Disney Slash Hulu, and
Speaker 3: I fucking loved it. I think Timothy Shallomey was amazing,
Speaker 3: and I think the women in there are incredible, Elle
Speaker 3: Fanning and Monica Barbero and ed Ed Edward plays Edward Norton,
Speaker 3: who plays Pete Seeger, who I was for book versus movie.
Speaker 3: We did Alice's Restaurant where there's a whole scene. Arlou
Speaker 3: Guthrie's father was Woody Guthrie, and he has a scene
Speaker 3: in his movie called Alice's Restaurant, which is based on
Speaker 3: eighteen minutes song he wrote two years before a few
Speaker 3: years before, and there's a whole scene where Pete Seeger
Speaker 3: is singing to his dad, and his father had died
Speaker 3: in sixty seven and he's filming this in nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 3: It's crazy to think about that. So then I watched
Speaker 3: this movie and there's like a whole other way it's done.
Speaker 3: And Timothy Shallomey just really impressed me. He just yeah,
Speaker 3: he really dove into this. I believe it was Bob Dylan,
Speaker 3: like I started just he sounded like him. He plays
Speaker 3: like him, I know more of the story than you
Speaker 3: do about because they don't tell you anything like you
Speaker 3: do have to. I mean, I've read all the books
Speaker 3: about Bob Dylan and stuff like that, so I knew
Speaker 3: what these people were and what the stakes were. Yes,
Speaker 3: And I get it when you said you saw it
Speaker 3: like I don't understand this folk festival, Like what's the point?
Speaker 3: And yeah, I get it. If you don't know anything
Speaker 3: about it, it's like it's just another gig that he
Speaker 3: played the year before. What's the big deal now? But
Speaker 3: but that being said, I kind of like that it
Speaker 3: didn't tell me anything, but because I didn't get ready.
Speaker 1: I get it. Yeah, Like the and I talked about it.
Speaker 2: I think when it first came out, I saw it
Speaker 2: and I talked about it on the show, and I
Speaker 2: was like, it is right in the title, by the way,
Speaker 2: a complete unknown, like I walked out of it, and
Speaker 2: I was like, well, I don't know if I really
Speaker 2: learned anything about Bob Dylan that I didn't already know
Speaker 2: just from like existing in the world. I don't listen
Speaker 2: to a lot of Bob Dylan. I haven't read all
Speaker 2: the books or all that, but I saw it with
Speaker 2: a friend who's also like super into Bob Dylan, and
Speaker 2: she loved it, like, yeah, he loved the movie.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I think that's it makes sense
Speaker 1: to me that.
Speaker 2: You would respond to it that way because you have
Speaker 2: also like read all the books and know all the things.
Speaker 2: Even though I was like, I don't like love the movie.
Speaker 2: I thought the performances were amazing.
Speaker 3: Makes New York look amazing. I mean they all of it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I had the guy who played Johnny Cash was really good.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it was really really well done.
Speaker 3: And Shallon I deserve that Oscar nomination. I mean he
Speaker 3: really puts himself into it because and also that's a
Speaker 3: thing like we're not supposed to know bomb Dylan. That's
Speaker 3: the whole fucking thing, Like that's what we'll find out
Speaker 3: what he dies, So probably like there's a diary that says, haha,
Speaker 3: just I just I'm a total door.
Speaker 2: You didn't know that, Yeah, I just I think the
Speaker 2: women and it were all like so amazing, And I
Speaker 2: thought Edward Norton was so great as Pete Seeger. And
Speaker 2: I do think you are right in that Timothy Chalomy.
Speaker 2: I'm I am positive A couple of years from now,
Speaker 2: people be like Adrian Brody won for the brutalist really, I.
Speaker 3: Mean compared to what he's doing here versus that he's
Speaker 3: playing someone we all know which is already dangerous, which
Speaker 3: is already like that is like the kiss of death
Speaker 3: for an actor. They don't want someone that everybody already
Speaker 3: has an idea about, and he's but he does it
Speaker 3: really well. He gets the voice down the playing and
Speaker 3: then when he's writing the songs, like I was getting
Speaker 3: like this thrill from it because these are songs I've
Speaker 3: heard my whole life, and I'm like just to watch
Speaker 3: them create it. And yeah, he's probably like and Joe Bias,
Speaker 3: I think gets her flowers finally, like she was the
Speaker 3: one who really encouraged him, but also she was the
Speaker 3: one that was like he did. She would say, he
Speaker 3: doesn't go to the protests. He's not some political person
Speaker 3: like everybody wants. And that's the thing, like everyone wants
Speaker 3: him to be the second Coming. Like he figured out
Speaker 3: just enough tell people just this much about myself, that
Speaker 3: I'm mysterious and you have some power, and then it
Speaker 3: kind of overtook him and he didn't understand what to
Speaker 3: do with it. And she's saying like, we'll do good
Speaker 3: with it, like let's and he's like, I don't know,
Speaker 3: I'm kind of a coward. I don't think I'm going
Speaker 3: to do that, and I and I think like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know. I just and the women who played
Speaker 3: like el Fanning, I was completely floored by her, She's
Speaker 3: really good. Like it just was all so freaking believable
Speaker 3: that I was glad that they didn't have somebody to
Speaker 3: come in like, oh, hey, so the folk festival. I
Speaker 3: hope nobody brings an amp or anything that ruin it,
Speaker 3: you know, a you know, and then you'd be like, oh, Okay,
Speaker 3: that's why they're so pissed off, Like the fact that
Speaker 3: I just I think it's handled just great and I
Speaker 3: think it's one of those like down the Line, people
Speaker 3: will start watching it, and I think they'll get into it.
Speaker 1: I hope so too. I think so too.
Speaker 2: And I do really think that that movie is going
Speaker 2: to hold up a lot better and people are going
Speaker 2: to be surprised that it didn't win more stuff. Yeah
Speaker 2: I like it better, Yeah, go ahead, sorry.
Speaker 3: I like it better than Walk the Line. And he
Speaker 3: did the Johnny Cash one that I really liked. I
Speaker 3: think it's even better than that.
Speaker 2: Well, also the fact that what a couple of years ago,
Speaker 2: oh my god, the guy who he won for Bohemian Rhapsody.
Speaker 3: Oh that's it, which is a terrible movie.
Speaker 2: Compared to and he didn't he didn't even do his
Speaker 2: own singing and stuff.
Speaker 1: Right, he was like, right, I.
Speaker 3: Think he's made. We're talking about I Robot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 3: What's what's his fucking name?
Speaker 2: Rommy, Rommy Rommy something, Rommylick Malick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's a totally fine movie. But
Speaker 3: like when it won for edit for editing and then
Speaker 3: people are like, really, you mean this scene that scene
Speaker 3: it's Banannah, and it's like yeah, And I even liked
Speaker 3: I liked the Elton John movie, Like, not everybody liked
Speaker 3: that one. I thought that was fun, But I think
Speaker 3: this is like heads and Shoulders, Like, if you're gonna
Speaker 3: do a biopic of music, biopic, like this is one
Speaker 3: of the best ones.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I'm glad you finally got to see it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, me too.
Speaker 2: Anything else on your list?
Speaker 3: No, No, that was it.
Speaker 2: Okay, I've got a couple movies for y'all because we
Speaker 2: didn't record last week, So I need to mention that
Speaker 2: I saw F one, the formulat racing movie with Brad Pitt.
Speaker 2: Like everyone, I have conflicting feelings about Brad Pitt. Actually
Speaker 2: I don't know how conflicting they are. He's a creep,
Speaker 2: but he is quite the movie star, much like Tom Cruise,
Speaker 2: Like we still go see Mission Impossible, even though we're
Speaker 2: like Tom Cruise.
Speaker 3: But I like how they're being buddy buddy and doing
Speaker 3: breast together. I mean, it's like, oh, for God's sakes,
Speaker 3: you two, of course they are.
Speaker 2: First of all, here's a couple of good things. First,
Speaker 2: the racing stuff is very cool, like it's shot. It's
Speaker 2: very entertaining how they shoot the racing stuff.
Speaker 1: I much like you just mentioned.
Speaker 2: There's no character in a Complete Unknown that says, I
Speaker 2: hope no one brings an amp. I would have liked
Speaker 2: a character in F one who says, this is the
Speaker 2: rules of Formula one racing because I don't know the rules.
Speaker 2: I don't know it, and I think it's wrong to
Speaker 2: assume that people are going to see this movie are
Speaker 2: going to understand the rules. Everything I know about car
Speaker 2: racing I learned from the movie cars from Pixar's cars,
Speaker 2: Like I needed someone to explain to me some of
Speaker 2: the rules of Formula one racing, but nobody does that
Speaker 2: because it isn't They're not just like driving in a
Speaker 2: circle on a track.
Speaker 4: There is.
Speaker 2: There's like they're on teams. There's two of them, they're
Speaker 2: both driving at the same time. They can talk to
Speaker 2: their team, but they don't talk to to each other.
Speaker 2: I had to figure all that stuff out and ask
Speaker 2: people afterwards to find out like I would have liked
Speaker 2: to have seen those things in the movie. Also, Brad
Speaker 2: Pitt is too old for this part. He's too old
Speaker 2: for this part. He's sixty one, Like I think he's
Speaker 2: a little too old for this part. But they do
Speaker 2: say that he's too old in the movie, so he's.
Speaker 1: Got that going for him.
Speaker 2: But that's also too long, right, it's all about it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like thirty minutes too long. They should have This
Speaker 2: is the same director who did Maverick. I love Maverick.
Speaker 2: I thought Maverick was very entertaining, Like, but this movie
Speaker 2: is it feels a little messy. It needed to cut
Speaker 2: like a half hour off. There's this whole thing where
Speaker 2: it's like the story is a little bit like Bull
Speaker 2: Durham if it's like we're bringing in the pro to
Speaker 2: help train the rookie, and but the movie still defers
Speaker 2: to Brad Pitt and gives him the wins and makes
Speaker 2: him really smart, and it's I don't I don't like that.
Speaker 1: I don't want to.
Speaker 2: Spoil it for people by really talking about one of
Speaker 2: my biggest issues with the movie, But the way that
Speaker 2: it constantly is like he's here to train the younger rookie,
Speaker 2: but then Brad Putt still needs to win is a
Speaker 2: weird balance and it doesn't really work for me.
Speaker 1: So I don't like love the movie.
Speaker 4: There.
Speaker 2: That's I guess that's where I'm landing. But I did
Speaker 2: see something I really love. So I saw Sorry Baby,
Speaker 2: which is a new like comedy drama that just came out.
Speaker 2: The writer director star is Eva Victor, and a friend
Speaker 2: invited me to a screening and she was there doing
Speaker 2: a Q and A afterwards, and it was really really interesting.
Speaker 2: She like has a San Francisco connection, so that's why
Speaker 2: she was here. But it's about a woman who she
Speaker 2: lives in like a northern eastern college town and she's
Speaker 2: sexually assaulted by her advisor, and it doesn't show it,
Speaker 2: by the way, it's not that kind of movie. But
Speaker 2: she talks about it, and it kind of shows the
Speaker 2: aftermath of that and how she pieces her life back together,
Speaker 2: and about her friendship with her roommate.
Speaker 1: And it's a very soft movie.
Speaker 2: I don't know about her word to describe it than
Speaker 2: that it's like really really funny in some parts because
Speaker 2: the character is just so funny, but it's also really thoughtful,
Speaker 2: and it just feels very soft and how it handles
Speaker 2: something so serious. It's really really well done. I don't
Speaker 2: think you need to run out and see it in
Speaker 2: the theater, but I would definitely stream it when it's streaming.
Speaker 2: And then what else have you heard of? Forty acres? No, Okay,
Speaker 2: this one is my You will love forty Acres, Margo.
Speaker 1: You will love it.
Speaker 2: This would make a great double feature with Sinners. So
Speaker 2: this one is written by Rtie Thorne, written and directed
Speaker 2: by I don't think this person hasn't directed anything else
Speaker 2: I've seen. But it's like set in like a post
Speaker 2: apocalyptic world where like farming is farmland is the most
Speaker 2: coveted resource, and so this family has forty acres that
Speaker 2: they are. That's their farm that they grow on, and
Speaker 2: it's like a mixed family. It's like a black woman,
Speaker 2: a Native American man, and then like their children and
Speaker 2: they are just protecting their farm from all these people
Speaker 2: that want to show up and just take what is
Speaker 2: not theirs.
Speaker 1: And it's not surprising. It's a lot of like really.
Speaker 2: Entitled white people basically keep showing up. It's very political
Speaker 2: about white men taking from indigenous people. But it's a
Speaker 2: really good like thriller. It's scary in some parts.
Speaker 3: Where did you see it?
Speaker 1: I saw it in the theater. I had never heard
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 2: This is another one where a friend was like, you
Speaker 2: might like this, come see it with me, and I
Speaker 2: went to see it.
Speaker 1: And it's like.
Speaker 2: Set in Canada, so it's got but it's very it
Speaker 2: feels very American. I think this would be a great
Speaker 2: double feature with Sinners about how it talks about race
Speaker 2: and entitlement and you really care about these characters and
Speaker 2: you don't want anything bad to happen to them.
Speaker 1: So I loved seeing it in the theater.
Speaker 2: If but if you can't see it in the theater,
Speaker 2: definitely rent it when it comes out. Margo in particular,
Speaker 2: I think you would be super into it. And there's
Speaker 2: also a documentary on ahe Bo Max right now called
Speaker 2: Dear Miss, and it's about Miss Magazine with Miss Magazine
Speaker 2: thank You, and has lots of interviews of all the
Speaker 2: writers and editors who worked at it in that time.
Speaker 2: I think it's very interesting. I'm about halfway through, so
Speaker 2: I don't tell me how it ends, but I think
Speaker 2: it's very, very interesting. So definitely check that one out.
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