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<v Speaker 1>Bill cunning into Great American all health breaking, loose, chaos

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<v Speaker 1>and confusion is everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Had riots over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, with this so called note kings, riots and

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<v Speaker 1>the protests would happen in the state of Oregon is

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<v Speaker 1>really unbelievable. Portland, for example, what happened in La. You

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<v Speaker 1>have the La County Sheriff say that molotov cocktails are thrown,

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<v Speaker 1>dozens of officers have been injured, blocks of concrete have

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<v Speaker 1>been pitched. You have a commercial grade fireworks being distributed

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<v Speaker 1>among the police to hurt and injure them. You have

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<v Speaker 1>no commerce happening in Los Angeles. I would think, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how you have a worse mare than Karen

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<v Speaker 1>Bass or a worst governor. But everywhere I look there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing but chaos plus and the next few days the

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<v Speaker 1>President is going to be in the Rocky Mountains Canadian

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<v Speaker 1>side to talk to some of the G seven leaders

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<v Speaker 1>about that. It's a situation plus unbelievable. What's happening in Israel,

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<v Speaker 1>And it goes on and on on. It's only been

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<v Speaker 1>like two or three days since that erupted, and since then,

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, the world has changed. Showan you

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<v Speaker 1>and I now as Congressman Warren Davidson of the great

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<v Speaker 1>State of Ohio. And there's two congressmen that voted against

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Beautiful Bill in the House. Both are our guests,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think the listeners of mine that being a

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas Massey and Warren Davidson and Congressmen, welcome again to

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<v Speaker 1>the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, to go

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<v Speaker 1>back a couple of weeks, it was a one vote plus.

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<v Speaker 1>What caused you to vote no on the Big Beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>Bill about ten days or two weeks ago?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, good question.

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<v Speaker 4>It spends more money than it creates bigger depthicits than

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<v Speaker 4>we would have if we didn't pass the Big Beautiful Bill,

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<v Speaker 4>and it doesn't you know, look, you don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>go by the GAO score.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's been a.

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<v Speaker 4>Lot of criticism of that that comes out and says

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<v Speaker 4>it costs like five trillion dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Over ten years.

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<v Speaker 4>GAO doesn't give credit for you know, the growth rate,

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't give credit for tariffs. Pen Wharton, which Wharton School

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<v Speaker 4>of Business usually is one that people will look at

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<v Speaker 4>that says, oh, we give good scores there and everything,

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<v Speaker 4>and that says it still grows the deaths. It's even

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<v Speaker 4>in ten years. But the most optimistic model I could

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<v Speaker 4>find gives as much credit. It's the one that Speaker

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<v Speaker 4>Johnson and President Trump and Steven Miller and everybody's highlighting.

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<v Speaker 4>It does look good, it looks very, very nice. In

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<v Speaker 4>a ten year timeframe, would grow, would save about one

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<v Speaker 4>point six trillion dollars if everything went according to plan.

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<v Speaker 4>But even in those most optimistic scenarios, it doesn't. It

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<v Speaker 4>grows death SIT's in the first, you know, in the

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<v Speaker 4>first this Congress and then the entire presidency, so until

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty nine before it really starts saving money.

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<v Speaker 1>And the other thing is how much pressure were you

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<v Speaker 1>under thumbscrews?

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<v Speaker 2>Were you tortured?

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever someone says, get me the pliers and get me

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<v Speaker 1>the blow torch, did the Trumpster and others give you

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<v Speaker 1>the pliers and the blow torch.

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<v Speaker 4>No. Look, we've had conversations about these bills since you know,

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<v Speaker 4>November really I mean probably really prior to that, but

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<v Speaker 4>you know, you know, in an aggressive way. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>hundreds and hundreds of hours spent in meetings talking about

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<v Speaker 4>these bills to get to this point. So you know, no,

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<v Speaker 4>one's surprised by the position I've had, Franken's position. I had,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, last Congress when when I voted yes for

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<v Speaker 4>a bill that if if we stuck to the plan,

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<v Speaker 4>would have spent less money than we did the year before.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the criteria. We don't.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't even talk about passing a balance budget anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just like, can we at least turn in the

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<v Speaker 4>right direction and spend less money than we did the

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<v Speaker 4>year before, which is a pretty low bar, But we don't.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't ever put that on the floor. We did

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<v Speaker 4>pass a plan to do that last Congress, and I

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<v Speaker 4>sort of had hoped that we could at least agree

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<v Speaker 4>to do that, especially.

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<v Speaker 3>In light of all the momentum we've built with dose.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's been my position is if we've got a

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<v Speaker 4>plan to spend less than I'm for it, and if

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<v Speaker 4>we don't, then you know, then you know, we'll see

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<v Speaker 4>what we can do.

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<v Speaker 3>And so go back to March.

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<v Speaker 4>I was, you know, ento February, early March, we passed

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<v Speaker 4>essentially the plan to start putting this reconciliation bill together,

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<v Speaker 4>and we basically decided we're going to go with one big,

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<v Speaker 3>Versus the two step approach.

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<v Speaker 4>I favored the two step approach for what it's worth,

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<v Speaker 4>but you know, ultimately the kind of moderates push to

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<v Speaker 4>stick everybody together and put one big, beautiful bill, and

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<v Speaker 4>the danger in that is usually it's worse on spending.

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<v Speaker 4>That's how why they do I'm the bus bills is

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the usually the way you get the votes

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<v Speaker 4>is you just agree to spend more, and that's exactly

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<v Speaker 4>what they did. They so they turned towards the left

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<v Speaker 4>and they counted on holding everybody they could from the

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<v Speaker 4>right onto the big beautiful bill.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's where you've lost votes.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, me, Massy Andy Harris voted present,

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<v Speaker 4>And that's kind of where I was in at the

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<v Speaker 4>end of February and March, where I was the last

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<v Speaker 4>person to get DS and the speaker assured me that

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<v Speaker 4>he would not put a bill on the floor that

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<v Speaker 4>didn't save at least one point six train one point

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<v Speaker 4>five trillion dollars in a ten year. CBO score technically

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't do it with CBO, but you can find a

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<v Speaker 4>model that does it. But we talked about this Congress.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's really the crux of it, Willie, is you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the only Congress we control is the one we're in, right,

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<v Speaker 4>So it's easy to promise some future Congress is going

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<v Speaker 4>to save money, but promises somebody else is going to

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<v Speaker 4>save money doesn't save money. And so while there's lots

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<v Speaker 4>of things that we could do, I've given almost two

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<v Speaker 4>trillion dollars worth of ideas that you could cut that

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<v Speaker 4>would accelerate the you know, this model so that this

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<v Speaker 4>Congress or at least this presidency. And that's where I relented.

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<v Speaker 4>I said, Okay, let's say that Trump would be willing

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<v Speaker 4>to veto a bad spending bill. We don't necessarily know

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<v Speaker 4>who's going to win in the midterms, but I would

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<v Speaker 4>be willing to vote for it as long as it

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<v Speaker 4>would save money by the time President Trump's out of office

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<v Speaker 4>in twenty twenty nine. And you know, even the best

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<v Speaker 4>model that they can come up with, it doesn't do that,

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<v Speaker 4>and so we wanted to So this is a long

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<v Speaker 4>part of the story here, but again, hours and hours

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<v Speaker 4>and hours of these conversations, ultimately we're able to get

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<v Speaker 4>it out of the House, but still have you know,

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<v Speaker 4>no votes from the conservative side of this, the less

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<v Speaker 4>spend less money side, tease it up to get to

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<v Speaker 4>the Senate, right, and that's where Rick Scott, Ron Johnson

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<v Speaker 4>and Mike Lee are pushing it. And look, Thomas Massey

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<v Speaker 4>and Rand Paul are kind of in their own place.

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<v Speaker 4>Whether they're movable or not, as you know, to be determined,

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<v Speaker 4>but the other three senators are there. Rick Scott's been

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<v Speaker 4>hosting dinners with conservatives from the House and Senate for

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of years now, so we've spent lots of

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<v Speaker 4>hours talking amongst Conservas in the House and Senate, and

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<v Speaker 4>frankly with the administration and Susie Wiles and team there

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<v Speaker 4>she's chief staff, on how to keep this bill from

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<v Speaker 4>becoming just another giant on the bus.

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<v Speaker 2>No matter what you know.

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<v Speaker 1>The numbers II the big Beautiful Bell passes. Is it

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<v Speaker 1>true right now that the accumulated debt is about thirty

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<v Speaker 1>seven trillion and over the next ten years, let's forget

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<v Speaker 1>about ten years. Over the next five years, under the

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<v Speaker 1>plan of the Big BB, there's going to be ten trillion.

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<v Speaker 2>Dollars more borrowing.

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<v Speaker 1>So by the time Trump leaves office, there will be

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<v Speaker 1>forty seven trillion owed by our kids and grand kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that approximately correct?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean directionally, we're having you know, two trillion

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<v Speaker 4>dollar depth sits right now. And unfortunately, under this bill

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<v Speaker 4>during Trump's presidency, in the most optimistic scenario, it still

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<v Speaker 4>grows those depths that's beyond the two trillion, so it

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<v Speaker 4>makes them even worse for the next two or three years.

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<v Speaker 4>That's that's you know, that's a terrible situation for the

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<v Speaker 4>depth sit and when you go to the ten year score,

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<v Speaker 4>when they say in the optimistic if you stick to

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<v Speaker 4>the plan, we save one point six trillion dollars. This

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<v Speaker 4>bill would raise a debt debt limit by four to

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<v Speaker 4>five trillion, depends on the House version of the Senate version,

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<v Speaker 4>whichever one becomes final four or five trillion dollars. But

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<v Speaker 4>the reality is you're going to grow debt by like

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<v Speaker 4>twenty two trillion dollars by then, so you're talking fifty

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<v Speaker 4>trillion dollars worth of debt by the time you get

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<v Speaker 4>the ten year score. So I mean this starts eating

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<v Speaker 4>up our GDP. I mean, it's a huge percentage of

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<v Speaker 4>our GDP. And the last time that we had this

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<v Speaker 4>much debt, it was the end of World War two.

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<v Speaker 4>But everybody knew we had to spend less money. Right now,

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<v Speaker 4>almost nobody's talking about spending less money. And that's sort

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<v Speaker 4>of where Elon Musk, you know, it's like, look, it

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<v Speaker 4>kind of works in the opposite direction. Why did I

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<v Speaker 4>want to go do Doe was so we could spend

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<v Speaker 4>less money, And this bill does just the opposite of that.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a big setback, and you know, he's right to

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<v Speaker 4>be upset about that, and you know, of course we

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<v Speaker 4>do want to find a.

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<v Speaker 3>Way to get it done.

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<v Speaker 1>Congress and Warren Davidson. One great part about this bill

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<v Speaker 1>is is the continuation of tax cuts and the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that if nothing happens, this will destroy the Trump legacy.

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<v Speaker 1>And secondly, there'll be huge tax increase on the American people.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you say about that one? Well, I think, look,

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<v Speaker 1>no one wants that.

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<v Speaker 4>We know we're going to have to deal with the taxes.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't whether it's in this big, beautiful bill or

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's enough votes to change the tax code.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, the reality is that, you know, the Senate

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<v Speaker 4>passed the no tax on Tips provision that President Trump

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<v Speaker 4>wanted as a standalone measure kind of approved the point

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred to zero. If you look at some of

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<v Speaker 4>these provisions in the tax code, you know there are

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<v Speaker 4>Democrats who would vote for it. We could pass them

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<v Speaker 4>to do that. You could do those in standalone bills.

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<v Speaker 4>And then the last thing is it's not like you

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<v Speaker 4>only get like one giant reconciliation bill per year. The

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<v Speaker 4>Democrats did the same plan when they passed the American

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<v Speaker 4>Rescue Plan and when they passed the you know, Inflation

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<v Speaker 4>Reduction Actor sort of Green New Deal, and they're blending

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<v Speaker 4>what's traditionally mandatory spending and discretionary spending, but in their case,

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<v Speaker 4>they just want to spend more money. Bernie Sanders liked

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<v Speaker 4>it so much when he was the Democrat chair of

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<v Speaker 4>the Senate Budget Committee. He said, is there any limit

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<v Speaker 4>to how we can do this? And the Senate Parliamentarium

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<v Speaker 4>said no, you can do this as often as you want.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's not like you can only do it like

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<v Speaker 4>once per year you're limited to it. So those why

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<v Speaker 4>it's kind of crazy to not do two bills instead

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<v Speaker 4>lot of things. Why did they want one big, beautiful bill. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>And it's a shame that we gave into that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, at this point, Congressman, I would say this, the

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<v Speaker 1>tax cuts have got to be continued, and secondly, somehow

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<v Speaker 1>the accamulated debt has got to come down. If it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't happen now, I've said this many times in talk

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<v Speaker 1>radio for the last several decades, if it doesn't happen, now, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>guys like you and Ran Paul and John Thune and

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump and going on. If it doesn't happen now,

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<v Speaker 1>it done, the deficit is just going to continue yearly

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<v Speaker 1>to go up two trillion, three trillion. And secondly, the

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<v Speaker 1>accumulated that's gonna be wild. So if it doesn't happen,

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<v Speaker 1>now we're screwed, blue tattooed and barbecue.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean that's it.

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<v Speaker 4>You look at all the momentum we had coming off

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<v Speaker 4>of Doze and the election, and look, you shouldn't have

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<v Speaker 4>to fund the Green New Deal, and you know, tax

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<v Speaker 4>breaks for you know, wealthy people in New York to

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<v Speaker 4>be able to secure our borders. So there are things

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<v Speaker 4>in there that we like and agree. And if you

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<v Speaker 4>cut taxes, it makes sense. You can grow the economy

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<v Speaker 4>You can bring tariffs in and bring in you know,

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<v Speaker 4>significant revenue from tariffs. But you can't do that and

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<v Speaker 4>spend money and cut taxes and not have to raise

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<v Speaker 4>the debt limit. And eventually, if all this stuff comes together,

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<v Speaker 4>the reason it starts looking good in the out years

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<v Speaker 4>is they eventually get around to turning off major chunks

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<v Speaker 4>of the Green New Deal. They eventually around to saying, look,

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<v Speaker 4>if you're able bodied working in adult work, you got

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<v Speaker 4>to go to work work. But who would help a

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<v Speaker 4>friend in need out and say, well, hey, buddy, I

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<v Speaker 4>mean I'll help you out for now, but by the

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<v Speaker 4>end of twenty twenty seven, you got to get a job,

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<v Speaker 4>all right. Why does it mean to do the same

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<v Speaker 4>thing when the government does the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>That you and I would do for a friends and family.

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<v Speaker 1>The idea that illegal immigrants should be getting medicaid something

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<v Speaker 1>like one point three million or so, plus another four

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<v Speaker 2>We have only a few minutes remaining. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>get your taken. What's happening in Israel?

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<v Speaker 1>I understand from off the air the Congress is planning

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<v Speaker 1>on a little bit of a trip next week to

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<v Speaker 1>Israel that may not occur. I see this as a

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<v Speaker 1>golden opportunity in which the Gulf States want Iran to

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<v Speaker 1>be taken down completely. We use four or five Muslim

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<v Speaker 1>countries Israel did to fly over their F fifteen's and

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<v Speaker 1>can give me. Warren Davidson's position on what's happening now,

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<v Speaker 1>This go on for next week or ten days, God

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<v Speaker 1>knows how long. What should be done, what could be done,

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<v Speaker 1>what must be done with this side is an evil

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<v Speaker 4>Look, Iran has clearly been the destabilizing force in the

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<v Speaker 4>Middle East, and they've funded proxy wars that have targeted

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Israel. I mean, how did Homask get the

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<v Speaker 4>money and do the effort to do the ten to

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's heavily Iran. And this is why it was

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<v Speaker 4>What the Biden administration and frankly previously the Obama administration

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<v Speaker 4>And Iran with cash is about as predictable as gravity.

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<v Speaker 4>They're going to use it to attack Israel. So look,

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<v Speaker 4>they've had essentially a proxy war going on between Iran

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<v Speaker 4>and Israel, and an occasional flare up into a direct

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<v Speaker 4>conflict between the two countries. And I got friends in Israel,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, just pull it on a personal level. I've

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<v Speaker 4>I got no friends in Iran. I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 4>there are lots of good Iranian people who've got an

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<v Speaker 4>evil gut and they do evil things. So you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I hope Israel prevails, but I do think it's not

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<v Speaker 4>I think Israel has historically said we're fine fighting our

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<v Speaker 4>Now everybody, you know, the warmongers out there, they look

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<v Speaker 4>And frankly, some of my colleagues in the House and

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<v Speaker 4>giddy about the prospect of getting us into a bigger war,

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<v Speaker 3>And they haven't found one.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't like no at this point. And I would

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<v Speaker 1>give them all the bunker buster bombs. They need to

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<v Speaker 1>do everything they can do. Tell the Iranian people. And

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<v Speaker 1>I thought Netanyahu was great the other day the other

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<v Speaker 1>night when he said, look, it's time for the Iranian

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<v Speaker 1>people to arise. Sirih was going to be there forever

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<v Speaker 2>Let's face it.

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<v Speaker 1>The policies of Joe Biden fun to terror all over

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<v Speaker 1>the world, especially by giving the Onans billions of dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>and Obama had palettes of cash. They used that cash

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<v Speaker 1>funding Hesbela Hamas Boca Ram, they funded the Hoodies. They

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<v Speaker 1>did everything they can and now we have we have

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<v Speaker 1>the go ahead to assist Israel by Muslim states who

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<v Speaker 1>way it ought to be. Well, Congressman, we got to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, in the next few weeks before July fourth,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have your the blow torch and the pliers

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna come out. You're gonna have to make a

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<v Speaker 1>looks like. But Warren Davidson, once again, thanks for coming

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<v Speaker 1>on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Warren, you're a great American.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you too. And another great highlight was Army's birthday.

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<v Speaker 3>What a great event. How about that, American?

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<v Speaker 2>How about that?

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<v Speaker 1>How about you were you were a ranger, you went

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<v Speaker 1>to West Point. The juxtaposition of Donald Trump and the

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<v Speaker 1>soldiers with the American flag marching down Pennsylvania Avenue, and

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<v Speaker 1>compare that to what happened in Coortland, what happened in Chicago,

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<v Speaker 1>what happened in Austin, what happened in La what happened

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<v Speaker 1>in San Francisco was unbelievable. The split screen only MSNBC

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<v Speaker 1>did not like the American Parade on the two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fiftieth anniversary of the Army's founding, of which you

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<v Speaker 1>are a proud member. But once again, Warren Davidson, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you very much.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, thank you. I mean Sarah Huckabee.

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<v Speaker 4>Sanators had it right, you know, normal and crazy, and

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<v Speaker 4>it was definitely on display during that parade.

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<v Speaker 3>Normal people were happy about it.

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<v Speaker 1>God bless you. I'm normal and sir are you. But

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for your service. Thank you very much. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's continue with more. Bill Cunningham on seven hundred WLW