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Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back after a very

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long time to the last of us review. But now

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we're at season two, episode one. I'm the little Sadie Tress.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm joined by I'm the viper to Compotser.

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Speaker 3: I'm the Daddy's Home Taylor Fields.

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Speaker 1: I specifically asked Taylor when we're in a business setting

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not to call himself daddy at all. And now here

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he's saying daddy's home. You know, I don't. I don't

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need set can call him daddy, Madison call him daddy.

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I don't need to call him.

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Speaker 3: He's saying a business sitting. You're like, don't call yourself

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daddy in these parts ever. Again, that's these parts of this.

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We're just business Western are you from again?

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Speaker 1: We're not friends outside of us, all of us were.

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We signed a fifty year contract. Big mistake there. You know,

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some people couldn't take the pressure. Kyle, Amber, Jessica. They

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all left because like.

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Speaker 4: Forty nine years they could do, but not fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like, oh no, but here we are. It's

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us three. We don't know what happened. Dylan's hopefully a okay,

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he might not he might have told he's not joined

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for Last of Us, and we might have forgot. There's

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a lot of things that happened and like that. There's

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lots things happening at Geek first, but I'll tell you

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all about that after the AD break. Yeah, we got

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a slew of stuff happening in May, lots of good content,

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lots of good episodes, fun times, so you can check

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those all ouh. But like I said, I've talked about

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that after the ad break, which if you go to

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Patren you could avoid that. But let's get into this,

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so Kirkland give like a brief synopsis in case we

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got some new listeners of what you thought about season one.

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I'll clarify that Kirkland and Tay have not played the games,

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so we're not gonna talk about any game spoilers.

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Speaker 4: They're too hard.

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Speaker 1: I meant this, sorry, I meant specifically two Part two.

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They've not played this game, so we're in uncharted territory now,

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so we're not gonna talk about any game spoilers until

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obviously they happen within the show. Same thing, we do

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have a discord, the same rules there, we're talking strictly

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the show. I'm going to dance around them because there's

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some stuff that's a little tough, some stuff that's not.

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It's kind of tricky. I'll wait till my overalls. But

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Kirkland brief synopsis elevator pitch in case people are new

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and don't know what you thought about season one, and

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then what do you think about the premiere of season two?

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We got a nice sixty minute girthy episodes. It's always nice.

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You can pull that up. It's like, oh, yeah, we're

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an HBO land, you know so, and yeah we'll be here.

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We're viewing it to every week. So Kirkland, the ball's yours.

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Speaker 5: The balls are mine. Uh yeah.

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Speaker 2: Season one, Last of Us, I real really enjoyed it.

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I thought it was just really well crafted to that

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HBO standard where there's just something special about getting like

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Sunday evening HBO like new show.

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Speaker 5: Like it's just a.

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Speaker 2: Nice uh like it's almost like an event like Sunday

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night football, but you know, Sunday night to HBO.

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Speaker 1: And I can only for two shows so halfway I

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think right, Last of Us and Game of Thrones, So

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those only two shows we've done the HBO Sundays.

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Speaker 3: Like in person, you're saying no, I mean you you,

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Me and Kyle gathered for I think the premiere of Game,

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the final season Game Throw.

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Speaker 1: So I mean it all and that's it would still count.

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That would still count. I say, any show other than

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Last of Us, Game of Thrones, because Kirkland's because we

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did the Dragon.

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Speaker 5: That's different.

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Speaker 1: The Peacemakers on Thursdays.

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Speaker 4: Next, that New Sea that was on HBO.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't it It's on Crave and I considered, yeah, I

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h continued, I don't have an HBO channel. I just

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have Crave and that's what I watched on. But we digress. No,

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but I I thought it was just really well crafted.

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I thought it was really engaging story. I'd only ever

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played that first game about halfway, so I knew some points,

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but pretty much just kind of like the setup of

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the characters, and then from that point on, it was

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just what the storytellers of this show were able to

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give me is what I got. And uh, big Pedro

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Pascal fans, so I'm I'm always in his corner and

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around that first season I really really dug. I didn't

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rewatch that first season going into this, and I felt

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like this is just kind of crept up on me.

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feel like this, Uh, this slipped through the cracks. It

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was a little bit surprised. You told me last night

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that that it was coming in.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, all right, yeah, but no, I watched season one.

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Speaker 2: I'm really excited to just keep yeah, just keep watching

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these every Sunday from here on out, going forward. And uh,

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of like a new season. Like I felt like the

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pacing kind of it was on par with what I

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maybe would have expected, at least for the Last of

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but for the most part, it's Uh, I don't know.

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just I'll say them for when.

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Speaker 1: They definitely take their time in the games like that too.

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The game's pace in a way where you're supposed to

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really feel what's going on? You know?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, but uh yeah, no, I think this

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what like was revealed and what wasn't because there is

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a new new faces to me at least, and maybe

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certain characters. But for me, it felt like we got

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introduced to a lot of new faces and uh just

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dynamics between our characters that we already know of. So yeah,

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can only imagine this season going to be just doubled

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down in on that, on the emotions. And but no,

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but I felt like the runtime, it felt like it

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went pretty quick for the amount of minutes that were

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actually on the episode. Maybe that is partly because I

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just wanted a little bit more, But yeah, I think

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first week, I mean, getting that in the last couple

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of shows I've been watching and maybe I'm just I'm

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a glutton.

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Speaker 1: Now, HBO, don't do that. You know, they want to

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make you feel that, they want to make you they

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want that subscription, the numbers, you know, so fair enough,

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mister Field.

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the rehash at the start. I really appreciate it when

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shows do that, just give me a little bit of

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a recap because a lot of stuff I don't remember.

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the walkers, fuck clickers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Anyways, that season was great, and from what I had

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known from the first game, it was really cool to

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get these spot on identical scenes in the show compared

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Speaker 4: Really enjoyed it.

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Speaker 4: Just really enjoyed it.

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Speaker 3: It's just really really good writing and good development of

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these characters, and it has a lot of emotion and

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tension and just it just feels hopeless. Well, let's say

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in time like there's a beacon of hope in here

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with one like trajectory of this character, but again, everything

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else just feels hopeless and terrifying. And we get into

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but uh, heck, I would never suggest this. I'd say

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go watch the first season because the first season is great,

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you don't even have to watch that first season because

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it's just you're just here and it's just like diving

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in with these characters, like, hey, this is I feel

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Speaker 1: That though if you, let's say, they couldn't watch the recap, though.

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that first season, like okay, well this with this character

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explains this, Oh, this with this that explains that. And

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they tackle a few things and not in a way

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that a backtracks and backpedals where they're redoing things over again,

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and it's like, oh, like, what is an equivalent to

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that with Captain America Brave New World where you have

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going through things in that movie and it's okay, this

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is an apparent relapse of what he's already conquered in

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Speaker 4: That sucks.

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Speaker 3: But in here you have them not rehashing it and

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reconquering these issues. It's okay, these issues are still present

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and they're going through these things still, but they've explained

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and I just I like it. It's it's it's building off

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of the recap, but it's also it's independent in its

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own way, if that makes sense. It's I'm probably getting

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a bit confusing with it. I just really like how

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well done. And I think how we get to the

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end of this episode too, it was. It was an

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absolute banger. It definitely does feel a little bit of

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a slow burn getting to where we're at. But I've

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only been aware of some things with the game. I

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remember when the second game came out, and I remember

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seeing lots of streamers and lots of people putting up

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the cut scenes and whatnot. So there's only a few

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things that I could recognize. A lot of scenes in

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this I recognize, but there was a few other things

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like using your perperal vision. It just like those things

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are great to really appreciate those, and it just does

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a great job at being comedic and dramatic and horrific

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at the same time, with that horror element always looming

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in the in the background. So I'm excited to break

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it down and get into the spoilers aspect because there's

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definitely some questions I have too. But when the way

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this episode ended was just banger, holy shit, I'm I'm

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so stoked to see what happens next.

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Speaker 1: Banger, he says. Yeah, one, I hate that you brought

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up Brave New World because I just rethought of Bruce

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Banner's ex girlfriend Highlight, so that was that was something

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going on there. But you know, check out our Captain

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America a Brave New World review. But yeah, this is

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a very interesting and tough review for me to do

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in a non spoiler sense. I'm gonna do my best

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somemer professional you know, been doing this for ten years.

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But there you go through it, Mike, you know, fantastic ping.

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When was a sun HBO show there. We got ten

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stars for super Bad Mic right there, So you'll be

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happy to know, Mike, my kids were listening to Wicked today.

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We'll brushing their teeth so shut out to you. Uh

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it is a good show. Yeah, it's tough because all

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broad strokes, just like the way the game is paced

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is it's not told in a in a like a

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point A to point B. It's not chronological. So that's

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the difficult thing for me. Where there's all and it's

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multiple the game two games spans multiple years. You guys

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sense of already some of the things I feel they're

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doing now I think are better in the game. And

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sol overview this guy. It was a great episode. I

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game because it is a very controversial game. They do

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lots of choices, lots of new characters that make a

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lot of choices, like they take some swings, and I

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think they're gonna do that. There's just certain things that's

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the time about Mike and other people, probably in the

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discord when we get there, that I'm just worried that

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they're doing because they may have been like, oh, in

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the game, people didn't like that, so let's not do

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this anymore. Let's change it up. And I just I

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think there's certain things. I think there's certain things with

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reeled this back. There's certain things that I don't want

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to say that I think they've reeled back. So I'm

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just a little worried. It's kind of like a if

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it's not broken, don't fix it. And there's many people

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like at least Kurkul and Teara in the bubble, there's

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many people that have no sense of what happens in

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the game. Don't know. It's the same way as like

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a book, right, You're adapting something no one's ever seen before,

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where it's like, oh, you know, strong female characters this

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and that. It's like, like, I'm really worried. They're like, yeah,

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you know what, they didn't like that when we did

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that in the game, so let's not do that here.

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much with season one because season one they changed them

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stuff and added some stuff, but that felt there, there

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was a clear path that's a point and a point

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very tough and for me, even the first scene like Okay,

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why is this here? So I'm gonna try my best

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because I know we have listeners too that haven't played

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the game. So to talk about where it is. I

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think everything's so great. The show looks great, acting is fantastic.

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really enjoyed down to like the little bit of like

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when Ellie and Dina dance, they play Little Sadie. That's

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the song I'd never heard until I got to Last

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of Us. That's like a one of my favorite songs

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was Past Decade. I love that song so much. So

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the stuff was like, okay, fields here, they're definitely adding

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some stuff, and that's what's interesting too. I feel like

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there's like about two things that they're adding that weren't

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in that second game, or they're very minor and they're

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gonna expand upon them. And I just wonder, because there's

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certain areas we go to if they're kind of like eh,

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because they've already said this is not a spoiler. They said, hey,

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we've taken it the second game, and it's gonna be

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at least two seasons, maybe three. So again, that's why

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it's like, it's not a spoiler when I say that

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the second game spans a lot of time. It's just

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the thing of like do they not is there certain

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things that go, ah, we want to say for season two,

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so we're gonna pad this, We're gonna pad that. I'll

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give examples when we get there that don't spoil anything

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of Oh that's that that to me is completely new,

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or oh that to add on, that's gonna give us

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some more time and everything. So overall, really liked it.

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of the changes. But there's one change in particular that

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I can't talk about till maybe the end of season

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that I go, I don't know if I like what

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we're doing here. But everyone's great. The score is great.

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But again it's like it's just like taking the video game.

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Like the scores pretty much what the video game is, right,

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they for a one to one adaptation for what it

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looks like and sounds like that's still top notch. All

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the actors are still great, like everyone still feels the

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person that plays God, I can't remember her name. It's Isabelle. Yeah,

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what's her name?

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Speaker 2: Is all fantastic, Yeah, Mercid or something like.

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Speaker 1: That, Mrcanna, Mercedes, it's not spell anyway, Isabelle. I can't

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remember where else I saw her. I know she was

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alien Ramla. She was the pregnant one. She was fantastic

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in that movie. She's gonna be a Hawk Girl and Superman,

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so I hope she's great in that. And there's something else,

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Speaker 2: She was live action Dora, not that one didn't watch.

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Speaker 1: Didn't you do a review for that? Taylor?

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Speaker 1: You go check that out. But she's definitely somebody like watching. Luckily,

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she's already been cast as Hawk Girl, so I don't

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really gotta worry about like the superl draft. I just

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like the next few years, just like watch her. I

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think she's gonna really blow up and she's just very effortless.

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so and that the chemistry might last on spoy with

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her and Ellie is something you have to nail, and

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I think they're already nailing that. So yeah, no, I

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think it's a I have some questions. I don't thin

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excited to hear your guys's questions, but there's lots of

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things that I it is like a wait and see

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and it's interesting to because we all knew they were

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gonna do something different because you couldn't tell the way

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the game works you can. I don't think you could

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do that in a TV show. I don't think the

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audience has made for that. And I even think there's

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some things you can go back to my review. My

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is so many people had issues of oh my god,

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Ellie's gay, but it's like the whole first game, like

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there's fucking all these sens. Oh my god, there's a

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strong female character as muscles. It's like, I don't know, dude,

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like go to the gym, like all my issues, just

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to clarify. And it was listening in the room and

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I said issues last was too. It's none of that.

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It's like pacing stuff, and there's even some stuff in

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the second game. I go, uh, like, I don't know

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if I like X, Y and Z that direction. We

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went as far as like this scene there and this

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scene there kind of messes up with the pace. But

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then there's certain things that it does. Dude, it's kind

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of like pulp fiction or we watched it this year

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right for strange darling that it's out of order, but

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the way it's told, you go, oh, I see why

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they tell it this way. That's really clever. Where there's

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some things it almost feels like they're kind of like, oh,

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here's the It's like a magician being showing you a

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trick and then right away being like, well, here's how

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I did it. So for me, there's things that I

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think are gonna have less impact. Multiple things that they

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introduced that in the game did it in a different way.

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So we'll get there when we get there. Fuck, we

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might not even get there to like another four years

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if it's some stuff in season three. But and if

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they spend in the three season, I don't even know

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what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna be fucking like snape,

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like attracted to Harry Potter's mom just hold my tongue

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for years and all the ways, you know. But that's

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what we're gonna be doing right now. So we're gonna

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episode one the show. As I said, check out everything

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you need to know is down below the links for

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the video, the audio. Lots of big stuff this week

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It's WrestleMania so we did our predictions. We did a draft.

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We got WrestleMania reviews for night one to Night two happening.

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We got the Daredevil finale, me and kirkle I'm gonna

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Just last week we released super Oh God, I think

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it's oh, Superman and Super Sorry, Superman three and four,

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and then Mission Possible two the there's like four retros

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He said, you know some nags, but you had some

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questions or some things you wanted to bring up. So

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maybe let's start there and uh open this can.

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Speaker 2: Before I get there, I'll say Isabella merced Isabella.

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Speaker 1: Mar said, yeah, I foresee her in many Golden Geek

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categories in the future.

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Speaker 2: You know, she's fantastic, and she did.

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Speaker 1: She We gave her one this year to think right

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for the pregnancy scene. Yeah, we did.

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Speaker 5: I don't think I I voted for that. No, No,

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I mean nominated you.

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Speaker 1: No, that's I mean she got a nomination. She's on

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the board. You know, that's that's a start, you know, not.

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Speaker 2: The pregnant cousin with the incest baby. But no, I

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like maybe some of my hesitations I have on just

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like seeing so many new like pieces on the board

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and just like trying to figure out where they like,

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where they fit together, and just just things like that,

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because like right at the start, we get introduced to

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this Abbey character. That's her name, right, Caitlyn Den. Now I.

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Speaker 1: Think's got two names of my Caitly.

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Speaker 5: That sounds right anyway, it sounds right.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I'm just gonna keep talking to somebody. Correct. There you go,

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Thank you.

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Speaker 2: You get introduced to this character, and I've I've heard

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about her reputation just because it was a very talked

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about character around the time when Last Best Part two

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came out, and I I was just very confused because I, well,

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you'll have to fill me in here. Was anything like

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shown about this character in the previous season or like

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her No.

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Speaker 1: She's completely a season two character.

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Speaker 2: So her just vendetta against that's something that's just gonna

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be revealed this season. Like nothing that I would have

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caught in the previous season.

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Speaker 1: Uh no, so like it's not a spoiler or rape,

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but like.

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Speaker 2: No, I'll say no, he's wronged her in some way,

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shape or form to the point that she wants to

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kill him slowly and violence.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I didn't love the way that this started.

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Speaker 2: I have like no attachment or like biases with the

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character whatsoever. But it just felt me like kind of confused,

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and it's like, Okay, this is just gonna be this

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impending doom that is eventually gonna catch up to Joel

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or like like this is gonna happen at some point.

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imagine it's gonna go to too nightly with just how

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furious she she's seeming in this quick scene, we don't

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really detail too much of what happened, other than I

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don't know, maybe Joel killed someone that was close to

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her because they're they're starting it at some sort of

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00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,559
it was like a firefly like funeral, right, Like is that.

471
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:00,000
Speaker 5: What those pens?

472
00:21:00,039 --> 00:21:02,559
Speaker 1: Yeah? It was? Yeah, yeah, and stack cast there forgot

473
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,680
like that was that was New Falcon there, right, Danny Ramirez.

474
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,920
I'm pretty sure he was with the squad.

475
00:21:07,519 --> 00:21:09,640
Speaker 2: There oh yeah, yeah, that was him, right.

476
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 1: I think he was not in like falcon shape because

477
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,400
he didn't look as Jack. But there's that. And then

478
00:21:14,319 --> 00:21:16,799
there was that girl I think her name was Tatty

479
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,240
Gabrielle from You. So it's like that's a stack little

480
00:21:19,279 --> 00:21:21,960
firefight cast right there. So I was when I saw.

481
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,480
I'm sure they were announced and we maybe talked or

482
00:21:24,519 --> 00:21:26,480
heard about that, but I was like, oh, I forgot,

483
00:21:26,519 --> 00:21:28,480
So it was like instantly, It's like, Okay, I like

484
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,240
three out of these five actors, so I'm excited to

485
00:21:31,279 --> 00:21:32,000
see more of them.

486
00:21:32,079 --> 00:21:35,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm like going into this season, I knew

487
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:36,880
that this character was going to be in here. I

488
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,960
knew about the casting obviously, but I was just curious

489
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,480
how they were going to handle it and and just

490
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,839
the way that it started. I don't think I'm necessarily

491
00:21:43,839 --> 00:21:45,200
the biggest fan of it, but like, I can't even

492
00:21:45,279 --> 00:21:48,359
judge it because there's nothing really like beyond that that

493
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,519
was shown other than the moment right at the end

494
00:21:50,559 --> 00:21:53,039
of the episode when it seems like they're getting pretty close.

495
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:55,400
Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't know.

496
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 2: I was just I was pretty confused because this was

497
00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,599
a moment where I'm like, should I be remembering something

498
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,039
uh and and like it it happened a few times

499
00:22:03,079 --> 00:22:07,920
throughout this episode, like just Ellie's pure just furiosity towards uh,

500
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,000
like Joel, like like.

501
00:22:10,039 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 5: Is that something I'm missing? Or she's just moody teen

502
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:12,680
like that's.

503
00:22:12,559 --> 00:22:17,440
Speaker 1: Just well, no, okay.

504
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 2: So like maybe I wouldn't be feeling this way if

505
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,599
I actually just watched the first season and then everything's

506
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:23,519
like fresh in my mind.

507
00:22:23,559 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 5: It's like, Okay, this.

508
00:22:24,519 --> 00:22:28,319
Speaker 2: Is just something that's uh that they're they're starting, especially

509
00:22:28,319 --> 00:22:30,799
doing like a five year jump, like clearly maybe they've

510
00:22:30,839 --> 00:22:32,640
just been slowly pulling apart.

511
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,880
Speaker 5: But I don't know. It seems like Joel's doing trying

512
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,000
to better himself. He's going to.

513
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 2: Therapy, he's uh, he's got a lot of a lot

514
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,799
of weight to the whole township on his shoulders. But

515
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,000
I I think just the way that we picked up

516
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,240
the pieces from last season, it just didn't seem like

517
00:22:46,279 --> 00:22:50,880
it was the the cleanest transition over. But again, I

518
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,880
I I haven't seen that season since since it was

519
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,160
on air, so maybe that's my own disservice.

520
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 1: Well, and there's even stuff like the the therapist when

521
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,720
she mentions Eugene, I was like, because it's a minor character. Yes,

522
00:23:03,039 --> 00:23:04,839
it's because I had some of those. Chris, It's like

523
00:23:04,839 --> 00:23:08,359
it's a minor character in Last of Us two that

524
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,359
you do like plays a role at some point. It's

525
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,440
kind of like the Bob character, remember from last year

526
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,920
was the couple. That's what they're doing with that character,

527
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,400
where in the second game it's a very minor character,

528
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,079
and this they're gonna expand it and do like an

529
00:23:20,079 --> 00:23:22,880
episode of that, which makes sense. You got Catherine O'Hara,

530
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,680
who's like a bigger actress, right, But when they said Eugene,

531
00:23:25,759 --> 00:23:27,720
I was like like, oh, you killed my husband. I

532
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,160
was like, what the fuck? Like I've played the game,

533
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:31,920
I watch the show, but I'm like, who the fuck?

534
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,079
Like what am I missing this whole big support like

535
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:35,680
from last year. I'm like, Oh, I guess it's someone

536
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,839
we're gonna dive into now. So I will say, like,

537
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:40,880
I think the stuff you brought up is nothing that

538
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,000
you should have known from last season, stuff that happens

539
00:23:44,079 --> 00:23:45,839
kind of all over and whatnot. And I will say, like,

540
00:23:46,079 --> 00:23:48,759
who knows, Like we're you know, I just talk about

541
00:23:48,759 --> 00:23:50,839
my bubble. But Chris and Joe, who's played the game

542
00:23:50,839 --> 00:23:52,759
and Mike who's played the game. We're all on iffy

543
00:23:52,839 --> 00:23:54,440
on the start of the show because there's certain things

544
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,480
that are ever that were like, I don't know if

545
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,839
this really works being here. It's like because there's certain

546
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,960
aspects with the Addy character of things where it's like, oh,

547
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,960
this works really well here. Some people have some issues

548
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,680
with her. I never did. It's a you know, I'm

549
00:24:06,799 --> 00:24:09,440
kind of bummed that they didn't go and get like

550
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,559
a very big lady. I think they just thought that,

551
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,920
oh while people memed us to death for this very

552
00:24:15,039 --> 00:24:18,200
muscular girl, but it's like there's millions of body lifters

553
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,599
and this and that in the world, like and it

554
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,480
makes sense in a post apocalyptic world that somebody would

555
00:24:22,519 --> 00:24:25,200
be like a little more juiced up and on, you

556
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,640
know whatever. Especially when they did like the five years

557
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,599
later jump, it's like she didn't look any different like

558
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,599
she like they it was her at the funeral in

559
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,960
the episode. It's like it just looks like it's you

560
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,880
may as well say five weeks later at least with

561
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:42,680
Bella Ramsey, they like they they don't. That's the unfortunate

562
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,079
thing with the TV show Pedro. I think they've definitely

563
00:24:45,079 --> 00:24:47,039
put some old age makeup on him, because in real

564
00:24:47,079 --> 00:24:49,480
life he does not look this old than this kind.

565
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 4: Of crusty fantastic.

566
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, man, dude's gonna kill him off like

567
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,119
a movie one. But like the thing is with her

568
00:24:57,599 --> 00:25:01,359
or with they with them, sorry they Bella like they

569
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,119
don't look that much all they did. But the thing

570
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,000
is at least from the they show that same scene

571
00:25:06,039 --> 00:25:08,599
to start the season, right of the first one where

572
00:25:08,599 --> 00:25:10,720
it's like, hey, tell me, you know, did you do

573
00:25:10,759 --> 00:25:12,440
anything back there? You tell the truth and they know

574
00:25:12,519 --> 00:25:14,319
of course, like I told you everything, and then you

575
00:25:14,319 --> 00:25:16,000
go away and then you get the fire Layer jump.

576
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,440
At least Bella looks somewhat aged, like it does look like, Okay,

577
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,119
it hasn't just been a week for Ellie, you know,

578
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,359
she looks like she has you know, grown somewhat, where

579
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,759
Abby just looks the exact same in five years. So

580
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,319
that to me was a little, uh, a little disappointing.

581
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:33,759
I almost thought they should have got like a different

582
00:25:33,759 --> 00:25:35,440
actress made for that five years. But that's tough. I

583
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:40,119
know they're setting upside characters and whatnot and everything. So yeah,

584
00:25:40,319 --> 00:25:43,759
it's interesting with there. It's a weird thing where Bella's grown,

585
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,319
Pedro has makeup, and Deaver doesn't look any different at all.

586
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,000
So it's just it's like a weird like time travel

587
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:56,279
situation right now the ages. But I digress. So am

588
00:25:56,319 --> 00:25:56,839
I am I going?

589
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 4: I go?

590
00:25:57,319 --> 00:26:00,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, you go, okay, I go, uh yeah.

591
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 3: The whole idea, just with people being pissed off and

592
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,200
whatnot with these like I guess tweet his own. I

593
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,720
don't have that strong connection, but I can understand people

594
00:26:11,759 --> 00:26:16,599
being upset when things are not represented properly in a

595
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:17,440
game adaptation.

596
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 4: I e.

597
00:26:18,759 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 3: Halo seasons one and two specifically on showtime.

598
00:26:22,519 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna say I don't think at least it's

599
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,640
that level. I've not talked to anybody that's like, I

600
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,559
think we're all just like, oh, that's an odd choice.

601
00:26:28,559 --> 00:26:30,880
It might not work. I don't think anyone's talk. We

602
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,319
don't got a Master Cheeks single.

603
00:26:32,519 --> 00:26:35,079
Speaker 4: That's all it comes to my is fucking Master Cheeks.

604
00:26:36,079 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think so far with the time jump,

605
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,400
I was not expecting that, and from what I know

606
00:26:43,599 --> 00:26:45,920
about this game and what I thought, for some reason,

607
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,119
I thought, okay, Ellie and Abby were going to become

608
00:26:48,279 --> 00:26:51,559
a couple. I knew that Ellie has a somewhat of

609
00:26:51,599 --> 00:26:56,440
interest in here, but I did not know it was Dina, right, Yea, yeah,

610
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:57,400
I did not know it was Dina.

611
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 4: I was just waiting the whole time. Okay, So Abby's

612
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:00,319
pissed a Joel, but.

613
00:27:00,079 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 3: He's gonna somehow get here and like five years later

614
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,480
they're gonna become a couple. But no, I am assuming

615
00:27:05,519 --> 00:27:08,119
that's definitely not the case now because she's just out

616
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:08,960
for fucking blood.

617
00:27:09,519 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 1: You know.

618
00:27:12,279 --> 00:27:13,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true, that's true.

619
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 3: But yeah, I so far like, I like the dynamic,

620
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,640
and I think that there's there's.

621
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 4: It's just it's intense.

622
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,079
Speaker 3: And so what I'm trying to pick up on was, Okay,

623
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,720
so we haven't had a real discussion between Ellie and

624
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,279
Joel since the hospital, So it's been five years since

625
00:27:32,319 --> 00:27:35,559
that had happened, right, they just haven't talked it out,

626
00:27:35,599 --> 00:27:37,559
and she's pissed at him for saving her.

627
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 1: So we're supposed to I'm supposed to believe man, maybe because.

628
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 3: I just don't fully understand why she's mad at him.

629
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,640
And we get that session with Gail and he's like,

630
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,400
oh I saved her, and he's crying, and then he

631
00:27:50,839 --> 00:27:53,000
leaves and I thought, well, I find this, this is

632
00:27:53,039 --> 00:27:55,000
I'm not sure, this is confusing.

633
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 1: I think you're right to be confused. I think I

634
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,640
think you're I think you're you're you're correct in your confusions.

635
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,240
That's the confusion. I'll say, the way you're feeling those

636
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,400
certain ways. I think that you did feel in the

637
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,799
video game as far as you weren't. They did drop

638
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,519
in a place you're like, Okay, we're kind of and

639
00:28:13,559 --> 00:28:15,400
there was a time jump, like like I said, spam

640
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,440
many years, but you're kind of like, hey, what's exactly

641
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,920
happening here? Even the community, like they got a good

642
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,759
community going on for the most part, you know, like considering.

643
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 4: Where we're the first Nope, they got to build faster.

644
00:28:26,319 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: Right the die on it. But I mean like considering

645
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,000
where they were last from place to place, even where

646
00:28:30,079 --> 00:28:32,680
Joel was with the the I can't remember the lady

647
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,160
as love interests of the lost, but like they're in

648
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,799
a community, but it just felt more dangerous and stuff,

649
00:28:36,799 --> 00:28:38,759
so that they got that going on now and everything.

650
00:28:38,839 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 2: So can you imagine you like you're you're in therapy,

651
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,480
you're supposed to be just like opening up. You're so

652
00:28:43,599 --> 00:28:47,200
vulnerable and then your your therapist is just like just hammered.

653
00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:51,680
She's just been like drinking hard liquor, don't know.

654
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, you fuck, I hate you.

655
00:28:54,559 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: You shot my husband Like it was just such a

656
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,319
crazy turn, Like, man, page, get the fuck out of there,

657
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:00,519
like she's not I help you.

658
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,759
Speaker 1: Also the guy that like, they're not another therapist around,

659
00:29:04,839 --> 00:29:07,640
Like I think she shouldn't be the one to be

660
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:08,200
helping this.

661
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 4: Guy conflict of marijuana to.

662
00:29:12,799 --> 00:29:14,839
Speaker 1: That's what yeah, I was gonna say, is she not

663
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,920
accepting his help and then he's paying, Because that's what

664
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,599
I was gonna say. In that community, I would assume

665
00:29:20,039 --> 00:29:23,720
like in real world, money would not be a thing anymore, right, No, God, yeah,

666
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,559
so the way that they trade for services. But I

667
00:29:25,599 --> 00:29:27,880
would have thought that, Okay, if someone's a therapist, it

668
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,680
wouldn't be like, well, you're gonna have to give her

669
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:30,960
something for to help you. I would think like, no,

670
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,400
if someone needs your help, you're gonna have to help them.

671
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,559
So I was wondering if the weed was just like

672
00:29:35,599 --> 00:29:37,519
a tip or what not. But I was like, no,

673
00:29:37,559 --> 00:29:39,400
like it makes sense where Ellie's like, hey, I trade

674
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,119
my boots for holster. I'm like, okay, I can see that.

675
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,240
But I don't think like Catherine O'Hara is getting paid.

676
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,960
It's just like, hey, you to do therapy and we'll

677
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,920
make sure there's food on your table stuff like that.

678
00:29:49,039 --> 00:29:51,599
Like I don't know. So when he gave the weed,

679
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,319
I was a little surprised, but maybe it is just

680
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,240
kind of like to mull over the sorry I killed

681
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:58,279
your husband there, you know.

682
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,079
Speaker 4: So definitely her and see for sure, thank you.

683
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,039
Speaker 1: Thank you, Mike. I don't envy Tip twenty for spoils.

684
00:30:04,079 --> 00:30:06,119
And that's what sucks is because if they did the

685
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,759
game route of how the game starts, I don't think

686
00:30:08,759 --> 00:30:11,079
I would have to because they're messing with timeline stuff.

687
00:30:11,079 --> 00:30:13,519
I'm like, okay, I'm gonna have to just walk on

688
00:30:13,519 --> 00:30:15,359
this glass. You're like Ellie was in this episode, but

689
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:16,240
you know it's all good.

690
00:30:16,599 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 3: Can you take me back to who the Eugene character

691
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,160
was and what context they got killed by Pedro in

692
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,559
the first season because.

693
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:25,839
Speaker 4: Did you already cover it?

694
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,039
Speaker 1: Yeah? I covered it by saying, oh, that didn't happen

695
00:30:29,039 --> 00:30:31,000
in season one, and we get there at some point.

696
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,519
I had a whole we had a whole conversation being

697
00:30:33,599 --> 00:30:34,920
Kirk and I thought you were a part of it,

698
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,160
but I guess not how that character is a minor

699
00:30:38,279 --> 00:30:41,440
character in ce in the Game of two, but they're

700
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,680
expanding the role so we'll learn about the same way.

701
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 4: But I thought you were talking about Abby when you

702
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:45,960
said that, Oh.

703
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: No, Abby's like a main She's like the third main character.

704
00:30:49,039 --> 00:30:52,240
Because it's funny the very the first thing they showed

705
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,119
of last of a Season or last of two of

706
00:30:54,119 --> 00:30:55,759
the game was just Ellien and Joel playing guitar to

707
00:30:55,759 --> 00:30:57,720
announce what was coming, and then the next scene was

708
00:30:58,079 --> 00:31:00,440
like an action scene with Abby. For the longest time,

709
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,440
the theory people thought that Abby was Ellie's mom, and

710
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,039
the thing was because obviously not now because you guys know, oh,

711
00:31:07,119 --> 00:31:09,079
she's after Joel. But with the game where it was

712
00:31:09,279 --> 00:31:12,319
like non chronolog logical order, you could think that for

713
00:31:12,359 --> 00:31:14,400
a while you would think, oh man, this Abbey character

714
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,119
could be your mom. But he said this game, this

715
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,319
show completely no same world, same timeline, five years old

716
00:31:19,319 --> 00:31:21,519
and everything. But yeah, for a while people thought she

717
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,920
was Abby's mom, and that was like a working theory

718
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,440
but not not not not happening.

719
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:31,119
Speaker 2: So know that there's an image of the Eugene character

720
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,400
in this season. He appears later on.

721
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, he comes to clicker. Yeah, just to update weekly

722
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,920
pizza bet we were watching. Can you bring the image

723
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:41,640
up again? There?

724
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,279
Speaker 5: Yes, I'm looking out for this scene.

725
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,119
Speaker 1: There's a pizza bet that Kirkland says, this scene's gonna

726
00:31:46,119 --> 00:31:49,480
happen in the show. It's a clicker standing over Ellie

727
00:31:49,519 --> 00:31:52,200
in a very provocative way. And Ellie he looks like

728
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,920
she's a bunch of makeup on because of ai CGI.

729
00:31:55,079 --> 00:31:56,759
So if that image appears.

730
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 5: She begins to make up at some point, I'm sure.

731
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: Her get a pizza. And if not, which is not

732
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,640
gonna happen terribly getting a pizza, it could maybe do

733
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,480
Even Tonight episode. In even Tonight, I was walking around

734
00:32:08,519 --> 00:32:11,519
in that like grocer, grocery marker or whatnot. I thought, oh,

735
00:32:11,559 --> 00:32:14,839
maybe that could happen. So they introduced although this guys,

736
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,039
they introduced the uh they haven't named them yet. I'm

737
00:32:18,079 --> 00:32:19,839
not sure if they will. In the games, they call

738
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,759
them stalkers. They're smart clickers, which I was like, I'm

739
00:32:22,839 --> 00:32:25,200
talking chrismic smart clickers. They changed them like a little bit.

740
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,480
They made him sound like a bit more human. But

741
00:32:27,519 --> 00:32:29,720
they are supposed to be like faster and high. What

742
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,400
do you guys think about the concept of our we're

743
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,000
goett a new type of morphed person.

744
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 5: So I loved it.

745
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,839
Speaker 2: It was it was a really freaky scene, very much

746
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,799
reminiscent of a certain hereditary scene with like crawling in

747
00:32:42,839 --> 00:32:43,519
the background.

748
00:32:43,759 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 5: And uh, yeah.

749
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:45,839
Speaker 1: I don't know.

750
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 2: I I thought there was gonna be like a little

751
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:48,799
bit more to the scene. Like I thought it was

752
00:32:48,839 --> 00:32:51,440
actually gonna like communicate or something with Ellie. Maybe that

753
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,440
will happen later on, because it seems like this is

754
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,880
like the first time well I don't know about the

755
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,279
first time, but it seems like a big step and

756
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,759
just kind of the evolution of these like infected where

757
00:32:59,759 --> 00:33:01,880
they like it's just a different type than they've seen

758
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,559
in the past. It's like a classic video game, you know,

759
00:33:04,839 --> 00:33:08,039
like game two old now there's there's different types of zombies.

760
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,559
But I don't know, I am intrigued by seeing more

761
00:33:12,599 --> 00:33:14,839
of them because it it was a cool scene.

762
00:33:14,839 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 5: It had some good suspense to it.

763
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,559
Speaker 2: Freaky look especially it's just like kind of like a

764
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:25,079
childlike body, which makes that much more terrifying. But yeah,

765
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,759
and then bit Ellie and yeah, you.

766
00:33:28,799 --> 00:33:31,319
Speaker 3: Say, like you know it'd be you're thinking it was

767
00:33:31,359 --> 00:33:33,440
gonna like communicate with her or something like that, like

768
00:33:33,559 --> 00:33:35,400
talk or yeah.

769
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:35,519
Speaker 2: He.

770
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 4: Just here's that in the distance.

771
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:49,079
Speaker 1: You can't get off the Yeah, but tround just perkangle.

772
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,759
He's a soccer now in shadow.

773
00:33:51,799 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 5: You just see that.

774
00:33:57,039 --> 00:34:04,279
Speaker 1: Run at me a faster man. Yeah.

775
00:34:04,319 --> 00:34:06,519
Speaker 4: That all scene was great.

776
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 3: I understand like that they're pros and all that kind

777
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,800
of stuff now. But it's funny because when me and

778
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,880
Madison watching Attack of the Clones earlier and itticipation for

779
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,960
Revenge of the Siths dropping at theaters in a couple

780
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:23,440
of weeks, there's one scene there where Yoda's like, oh,

781
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:27,679
you know, too sure of themselves, like the younger ones, YadA, YadA, YadA,

782
00:34:28,079 --> 00:34:30,000
And I'm just thinking, man, this is just this is

783
00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:33,719
right here, Like they're these younger Yes, they're like nineteen

784
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,519
twenty whatever, but they're younger and they're too sure of themselves.

785
00:34:36,559 --> 00:34:38,800
They pull out their knives and think, oh, we got this, yeah,

786
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,519
YadA YadA. I don't know why I would actively be

787
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,280
going into an enclosed area like this knowing, okay, yes

788
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:46,719
there's two, there could be more.

789
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,159
Speaker 4: You guys are definitely really confident.

790
00:34:49,519 --> 00:34:52,519
Speaker 3: You guys are you've experienced this world, I have not,

791
00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:55,280
so you guys have picked up some extra things and

792
00:34:55,639 --> 00:34:57,880
know how to deal with these situations. But I just

793
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,000
think going in there like that, leaving your backup outside

794
00:35:00,159 --> 00:35:02,119
like this is just so risky and dangerous.

795
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you gotta remember, like for the most part,

796
00:35:05,639 --> 00:35:08,559
Ellie's playing with a god mode on, right, she can't

797
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:09,920
get affected from.

798
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 3: The Yeah, but she's putting others at risk by doing

799
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,960
it too, And that's again just a cocky factor that

800
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,679
and again it's just the way the character's written. And

801
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,039
I think that's great. Like, I'm not docking at points.

802
00:35:20,079 --> 00:35:22,039
I just know for me watching it's just it irks

803
00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:24,360
me because I think, man like they she shouldn't be

804
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,960
and they all they shouldn't be encouraging her and enabling her.

805
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,360
Like it's just it's dangerous. But at the end of

806
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:31,719
the day, it's just the way the story is. And

807
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,400
I'm not docking at points.

808
00:35:33,599 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, what I was gonna say, Because it's been

809
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,159
a while, you can remember they did this in season one,

810
00:35:37,199 --> 00:35:38,960
but they did a reminder even at the beginning of

811
00:35:39,039 --> 00:35:42,320
this episode where she's fighting that big guy has been

812
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,440
an armbar and he taps and she keeps like like

813
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,159
like reckon the arm and everything like that. Ellie's a

814
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,760
character that is very aggressive and has a lot of

815
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,639
pent up frustration, and it just takes it in the wrong way.

816
00:35:53,679 --> 00:35:55,239
So it's like she just wants to find these clickers,

817
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:56,679
not even for the good of like, oh, we'll take

818
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,199
them out. She just wants to fucking stab something and

819
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:00,599
murder like she's yeah, and she.

820
00:36:00,599 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 3: Does that when she stabs the one and she's like yeah,

821
00:36:03,079 --> 00:36:05,199
nice and sees the blood coming out of its head.

822
00:36:06,159 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: But yeah, that is anytime that like can do violence. Ah,

823
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,079
And that's something especially they'll dive into this season is

824
00:36:12,159 --> 00:36:16,159
just like how kind of disturb Elie can be and

825
00:36:16,159 --> 00:36:18,119
how far that can go and what the line is.

826
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,079
I was gonna say that's one thing where I didn't

827
00:36:21,079 --> 00:36:23,320
mind that. I think there's that was good chemistry building

828
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,599
the hole. You got the horse ride and you got

829
00:36:25,639 --> 00:36:27,519
them going in there. I thought the scene of them

830
00:36:27,559 --> 00:36:29,519
like going to the clickers when they split up was

831
00:36:29,559 --> 00:36:32,079
way too long when they're doing like, yeah, the knife

832
00:36:32,079 --> 00:36:34,760
and I was like, cut like a minute, a minute

833
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,519
half is out like that you do this and they're

834
00:36:36,559 --> 00:36:38,559
like the ball. It's like it's just fine. I can't

835
00:36:38,559 --> 00:36:40,400
remember the game if there's something like that, if because

836
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:41,800
the ball is like a big thing the game you

837
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:42,920
can throw. So I'm not sure if there was like

838
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,599
a tutorial moment they're like, oh, we should put this

839
00:36:44,639 --> 00:36:46,679
on the show. But I was like, I'm already buying

840
00:36:46,679 --> 00:36:48,639
the chemistry. I understand what's going on here. And it

841
00:36:48,679 --> 00:36:50,599
wasn't like so funny. It was like, oh, this is

842
00:36:50,639 --> 00:36:52,960
great stuff. So it just that's the only thing that

843
00:36:53,079 --> 00:36:55,239
killed the tension for me. And now that was too

844
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,199
tension filled because you know, okay, these are the main

845
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,280
characters episode one, but also just like they're only in

846
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,840
here kind of hunting for sport. I just thought it

847
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,519
was paced oddly at the beginning, took too long, but

848
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,920
then after the fact it was it was good and

849
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,840
you got the little counsel there and stuff that you

850
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,599
know now knows about the stalkers.

851
00:37:11,639 --> 00:37:16,079
Speaker 3: So I have a question about the cordyceps virus after

852
00:37:16,119 --> 00:37:19,480
this uh thing. I want to mention with them going

853
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,800
in there and with this evolved stalker clicker. Again, I

854
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,840
really like that concept, and I know you see it

855
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,760
in many different zombie iterations and whatnot. I think it

856
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,159
is an absolute like I feel like it's like a

857
00:37:32,199 --> 00:37:35,280
staple when you're in these situations. Eventually, like something like this,

858
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:36,960
it's not going to just come to a standstill. And

859
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,719
these things aren't dead like zombies. It's it's an evolving

860
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,400
thing and you're gonna get something that's smarter, and when

861
00:37:43,599 --> 00:37:45,400
will be In Madison, we're watching this matter, it's like,

862
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,639
why is it just toying with her and whatnot? I'm

863
00:37:47,639 --> 00:37:50,199
thinking no, like it's it's hunting her and stalking her

864
00:37:50,679 --> 00:37:55,880
and the thing just being underneath the Yeah go on, yeah,

865
00:37:56,039 --> 00:37:58,320
I'll crawl out from underneath the table behind you.

866
00:38:00,119 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

867
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 3: So I just I thought everything about that was really good.

868
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,280
And the peripheral vision too, when it's like it's crawling

869
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,320
on the ceiling behind her and then like she's going

870
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,679
down the aisles and it's moving adjacent to her.

871
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 4: Just just freaky, freaky shit. But I liked it. I

872
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,559
liked everything about it. I thought it was really really good.

873
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:21,199
Speaker 3: Now regarding the virus, so the I didn't have an

874
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,639
answer for this, and I wasn't sure. So they eat

875
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,119
obviously wildlife and animals, but it's not transferable. It only

876
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,119
is in humans. Correct, That bear is not gonna get

877
00:38:31,199 --> 00:38:32,400
infected or I.

878
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: Can't remember if it was. But at the same time,

879
00:38:34,079 --> 00:38:36,559
like they completely like tore that bear apart, So I

880
00:38:36,599 --> 00:38:37,559
feel like maybe there was.

881
00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:39,599
Speaker 3: They were eating a deer earlier too, and that's again

882
00:38:39,639 --> 00:38:42,079
another reason I thought, well, do the animals get infected?

883
00:38:42,599 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, for some reason I thought there was like a

884
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,159
clicker bear at some point, but maybe I'm wrong. Maybe

885
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,679
it's on animals, or again, maybe they just that bear

886
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,920
was too far gone, like you can't I know, that's

887
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,519
like a zombie sort of thing. But maybe it was

888
00:38:53,559 --> 00:38:56,480
just like, Okay, it's completely stomach's gone, Like what's it

889
00:38:56,519 --> 00:38:58,760
gonna do, It's gonna walk and just like split apart

890
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,039
in two, right, But god, a bear got fucked up

891
00:39:01,039 --> 00:39:03,760
big time that whole situation. And yeah, those three that

892
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,159
were hanging back, they really don't have much leadership there.

893
00:39:07,199 --> 00:39:09,320
You know, they're been pretty useless.

894
00:39:09,519 --> 00:39:13,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, you're really gonna let them just go. Oh,

895
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:14,760
I'll give them, I'll give him five minutes.

896
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was definitely longer than five minutes. But yeah,

897
00:39:19,559 --> 00:39:21,079
they sat up there that that was like at least

898
00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:22,840
a fling or someone that Ellie used to date. And

899
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,159
then now they've we get this a little bit here

900
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,119
where they started to set up some in the chemistry.

901
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:32,599
Diana I can't remember her former boyfriend's name, Jesse Jesse. Yeah,

902
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,760
he pops up a couple more times, established that she's

903
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,519
broken up with him, and then we get to the

904
00:39:37,639 --> 00:39:39,719
dance later where you know, he's like, oh, she's really

905
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,320
showing off and she's kind of Ellie kind of implies like, oh,

906
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,039
it's for you and you'll be back together. It's like, oh,

907
00:39:44,079 --> 00:39:46,880
we're not getting back together. And then after Dina's making

908
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,519
her move and rubbing herself or stinky self on her

909
00:39:49,519 --> 00:39:50,920
and everything like that, and this is where we got

910
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,960
little Sadie the dance scene, which I was like, the

911
00:39:53,039 --> 00:39:54,719
set has pretty much one for one of the game.

912
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,400
She picked her the back ground here and then yeah,

913
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,840
they kiss, so it's kind of establishing. Okay, Dina is uh,

914
00:40:01,079 --> 00:40:03,280
you know, down to go multiple ways, and then we

915
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:08,079
get you know, fucking I don't know, I have many

916
00:40:08,079 --> 00:40:10,079
descripting words, but I don't want to offend any of

917
00:40:10,119 --> 00:40:12,400
the podcast. We get something it's not for He does

918
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,480
the whole like, oh there's a family event. You know.

919
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:18,159
Speaker 2: It's so hard when it like they're like embraced each

920
00:40:18,159 --> 00:40:19,519
other and then it just goes to this guy.

921
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,119
Speaker 5: He just got like a disgustive face.

922
00:40:22,599 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 2: No, he's like, it's a family event.

923
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 5: It's just like, oh my god.

924
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 2: His his like I I didn't even take it like

925
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,880
he was like being like a homophobe in that moment.

926
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,000
He was just like, it's family event, guys. And then

927
00:40:35,039 --> 00:40:38,159
he had to d word.

928
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,159
Speaker 1: That showed his cards right there, like maybe Jim has

929
00:40:41,199 --> 00:40:44,039
a point that is okay, No, he's Jim's lost, like

930
00:40:44,039 --> 00:40:46,039
he can't like he's gone. And then yeah, they go

931
00:40:46,079 --> 00:40:48,039
to do that and then Ella or then that's where

932
00:40:48,079 --> 00:40:50,239
Joel comes like fucking batman nowhere and push the by

933
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,239
the ground and then they have a big fight. But yeah,

934
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,159
what are you guys thoughts of this situation. But then

935
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,320
just Ellie and Dina in general. Uh, we talked about

936
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,480
a little bit of Isabelle, but just a relationship they're

937
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:00,000
sending up here.

938
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 2: No, I think they have fantastic chemistry, just like Dina

939
00:41:04,599 --> 00:41:10,440
is just fantastic Isabella mer I like even just her

940
00:41:10,519 --> 00:41:14,800
dynamic with every other character, whether it was Joel or Jesse,

941
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,199
like just just seems like she's she's just able. I

942
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,440
don't know to just uplift, like like just the dialogue

943
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,519
between like just boring characters, like she she just seems

944
00:41:24,559 --> 00:41:28,079
so like dynamic of a character. So I'm very much

945
00:41:28,079 --> 00:41:32,360
excited to see how how she evolves. Hopefully it's it's

946
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,679
not too sad and and and things that might happen,

947
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,159
but we'll we'll get there when we get there. But

948
00:41:37,559 --> 00:41:41,079
specifically between her and Ellie, I think it's really fun.

949
00:41:41,079 --> 00:41:43,280
I think I was really surprised by Dina bean so

950
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,400
like gung ho and like ready to go on this

951
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,960
dangerous adventure because like I get it for Ellie as

952
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,079
yourd mention is basically playing with god Mo. She can't

953
00:41:51,079 --> 00:41:54,480
get infected. But it seems like Dina is just like

954
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,360
almost leading the charge like into this building, like like

955
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,760
even without Ellie's willingness, uh to get in there. I

956
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,800
guess she was kind of hesitant initially when you know,

957
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,480
Ellie was like, oh, there's one clicker, and then she

958
00:42:06,559 --> 00:42:09,519
realized that there's two, and then she's just a little

959
00:42:09,519 --> 00:42:11,199
bit slow to get in there. But right away she

960
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,000
just holstered her weapon, pulled out the knife, ready to

961
00:42:14,039 --> 00:42:16,880
jump right in there. And not something I would do, no,

962
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,280
but uh, not at all I guess I'm a coward.

963
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,440
I would be I would be on on gate duty.

964
00:42:21,559 --> 00:42:25,159
I think I wouldn't be on the recon five year

965
00:42:25,199 --> 00:42:25,639
old men.

966
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,679
Speaker 1: You know, we're also three year old men were there

967
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,320
like in their nineteen early twenties, right, so that's true.

968
00:42:30,519 --> 00:42:32,800
You guys are gonna be thirty soon. So already you're like, well,

969
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,320
you know, I got I got things to do. I

970
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:36,800
don't know if I only get a bit right now?

971
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,000
You know where they you know, Ellie has God mode

972
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,840
and dina' is a single lady. It's just like, ah,

973
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,000
fuck it whatever, but yeah, the knife away. I'm Mike,

974
00:42:44,519 --> 00:42:46,400
But I guess at the same point, though, you still

975
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,039
probably live in a world where you have to consume

976
00:42:48,119 --> 00:42:50,079
amo you don't. You probably only want to use that

977
00:42:50,119 --> 00:42:50,960
gun when you have to.

978
00:42:51,159 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 4: If you're in God mode, you're blowing fucking amal.

979
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 3: They're doing practice targeting on the hillside for five That's.

980
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: The practice that to me is different than just like

981
00:42:59,159 --> 00:43:01,320
if you know, the click because at this point they

982
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,519
don't think there's a smart clicker, right, so they know, okay,

983
00:43:03,519 --> 00:43:05,679
there's one clicker, they can easily just throw a body

984
00:43:05,679 --> 00:43:07,519
comes over, they kill them. If you know it's that

985
00:43:07,639 --> 00:43:11,960
easy with the knife, why waste any am? Yeah, the

986
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,000
sniper they're working on headshots everything like that, so I

987
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,360
can kind of get that degree. The question is just like, hey,

988
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,920
would you still even go in there? Like even the ladies,

989
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,039
like you don't need to go in there, Like what

990
00:43:21,039 --> 00:43:22,920
if a baby's in there? Like a baby's not in there,

991
00:43:23,079 --> 00:43:25,400
Like there's no reason, Like I don't think they're like

992
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,960
we really need this food, Like it's not mission based

993
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,280
at all. They're just like, oh, we're gonna see those people,

994
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,320
and like they're just lying to the group because they

995
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,480
want to go and have some fun. But yeah, so

996
00:43:34,519 --> 00:43:36,360
I guess that's maybe the thought behind the knife. Even

997
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,280
though Ellie's just a sick fuck who like she wants to.

998
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:44,079
Speaker 3: She becomes Mac from the Predator, like i'd be some fun.

999
00:43:44,199 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: She's gonna be shaved with that knife.

1000
00:43:46,199 --> 00:43:54,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, bald heads, I wasn't intrigued by, uh, like the

1001
00:43:54,559 --> 00:43:57,039
conversation between Dina and Joel, like the first time you

1002
00:43:57,079 --> 00:43:57,840
even see Dina.

1003
00:43:58,159 --> 00:43:58,519
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1004
00:43:58,559 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 2: It just seems like I don't know, there's some underlying

1005
00:44:03,159 --> 00:44:09,000
untrustworthiness I think to this character. Just yeah, just from

1006
00:44:09,039 --> 00:44:11,920
that scene, it just it just seemed like, I don't know,

1007
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,920
if she's trying to get something out of Joel, I

1008
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,639
don't know, just just she's overly friendly. Maybe that's the

1009
00:44:18,639 --> 00:44:22,079
way that I received that, just the vibe of that sequence,

1010
00:44:22,079 --> 00:44:24,039
But who knows, I am reading into it too much.

1011
00:44:24,159 --> 00:44:26,559
Speaker 1: I did like the transition where they started with Ellie

1012
00:44:26,599 --> 00:44:28,320
and at that point they hadn't talked about the tension

1013
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,480
here and Joel, and they cut to Joel work on

1014
00:44:30,559 --> 00:44:32,840
something and it's like a young girl lady voice being like,

1015
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,360
oh hey, and then he's like, oh, how's it going,

1016
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,000
And they cut and it's not Ellie, but they make

1017
00:44:36,039 --> 00:44:37,599
you think like it's all good, and then you kind

1018
00:44:37,599 --> 00:44:40,159
of learn like, Okay, there's some stuff going on there.

1019
00:44:40,159 --> 00:44:42,400
They're not talking Dinas. Dina and Tommy are kind of

1020
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,920
like the middleman between them too, like either feeding information

1021
00:44:46,039 --> 00:44:48,920
or not feeding the right inform, like whatever is happening there.

1022
00:44:49,079 --> 00:44:52,280
So I like that transition to kind of make you think, like, oh,

1023
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,039
ell he's gonna be here, but she's still living there,

1024
00:44:54,119 --> 00:44:57,480
she's still in the garage. We got that established, and

1025
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,920
then yeah, we met Catherine O'Hare. We choked a little

1026
00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:02,960
bit about that therapy stuff. That's stuff that's not in

1027
00:45:03,039 --> 00:45:04,679
the game. So I think this is just kind of

1028
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,079
more like I think they want to add more stuff

1029
00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:08,960
to do with this town and flesh it out. So

1030
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,000
that's where I think they're like, Okay, well let's give

1031
00:45:11,079 --> 00:45:13,840
Joel therapists and maybe other people have the therapy sessions too, right,

1032
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,239
but that was not something because the game you still

1033
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,320
you have this area. I don't think it's like you

1034
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,480
leave the town of venturing. There's an adventure they go on,

1035
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,079
and that's where I think they're I think because they

1036
00:45:23,119 --> 00:45:25,800
want it's a TV show kind of pad some stuff out.

1037
00:45:26,119 --> 00:45:28,320
I think the therapist is gonna be used for that.

1038
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,719
And there's another thing as well too. But I thought

1039
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,599
that was really good scene. I thought Pedro's scene was

1040
00:45:32,639 --> 00:45:34,840
really good too, when he's when she's say, hey, I'm

1041
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,559
gonna say this thing. I don't like it. You know,

1042
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,320
we already talked about the husband thing. But then it's

1043
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,079
like you say your a bit and he says, like

1044
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,840
as much as he's willing to say, but he still

1045
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,119
never gives the full story to the people there, so

1046
00:45:46,039 --> 00:45:47,880
and he also doesn't want people know he's in therapy.

1047
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,280
But because I'm not sure, maybe he still thinks, like

1048
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,079
I understand people might get it like, oh, he had

1049
00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:53,840
to save Alley, but he still killed a bunch of

1050
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,480
scientists that maybe could save the world because he didn't

1051
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,599
want to lose his adopted daughter. You know. So it's

1052
00:45:58,639 --> 00:46:01,679
a maybe if that gets around town, maybe maybe Joel

1053
00:46:01,679 --> 00:46:03,760
won't be invited to the New Year's party anymore.

1054
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,639
Speaker 4: You know, secret.

1055
00:46:08,039 --> 00:46:09,159
Speaker 1: There's too much happen there.

1056
00:46:11,199 --> 00:46:13,559
Speaker 2: I just said, especially if he doesn't if he keeps

1057
00:46:13,599 --> 00:46:15,000
on shoulder checking.

1058
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 1: People, absolutely they're going to worry what you're saying.

1059
00:46:17,679 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 3: Now, well them trying to keep the secret of her

1060
00:46:21,039 --> 00:46:25,000
being immune, right, I mean the brother knows, so there's

1061
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:29,360
probably the only two. Her love interest Dina does not know,

1062
00:46:29,519 --> 00:46:31,800
and the council obviously doesn't know because they're when the

1063
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,320
brothers on the council are like, oh.

1064
00:46:33,199 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 4: Why does it matter with her? Why they got to

1065
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:35,920
keep extra protection with her?

1066
00:46:36,039 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yea dada, And they're looking at him and he's

1067
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,199
like he just kind of hutches up about it.

1068
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,039
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think that secrets as big though as

1069
00:46:43,119 --> 00:46:45,400
Joel killed dozens of people, though, because like if they

1070
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,119
don't know about the scientists will be like, oh, Wow,

1071
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,000
Ellie can't get affected. That's crazy where it's like, oh,

1072
00:46:50,079 --> 00:46:52,440
Joel killed, like how many innocent people?

1073
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 3: I think they'd carve her up though, if I think

1074
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:56,880
they'd be the same as the fireflies.

1075
00:46:57,119 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 1: But I know it doesn't look like they get the

1076
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,000
scientists there, you know that's one.

1077
00:47:01,079 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 3: That's right, Joe, you killed the last scientist on planet Earth.

1078
00:47:04,639 --> 00:47:07,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, I don't maybe there's somebody there, but I

1079
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,840
guarantee you if they were scientists and they hear the story,

1080
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,400
they're probably like, you know what, I'm a retired scientist.

1081
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,320
I don't. I don't believe in that anymore, you know.

1082
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,280
So let's take our last ad break and they'll beat

1083
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:21,880
right back and we are back. So, yeah, you guys

1084
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,800
have anything to add on the therapy scene or moving

1085
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:24,280
on or.

1086
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,760
Speaker 2: It's just really well done. Cathrone Hair was fantastic. It's

1087
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,639
it's funny. I like the think I've seen her in

1088
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,840
most recently is just in Shit's Creek, and her character

1089
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,119
of Moira is like just so like over the top

1090
00:47:36,159 --> 00:47:37,559
of the way that she talks, so to have her

1091
00:47:37,639 --> 00:47:39,559
just talking normally in here kind of trip me out.

1092
00:47:39,599 --> 00:47:44,000
But no, she she played that scene really, really well, yeah.

1093
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,119
Speaker 1: No, she's a great actress, great to have the show

1094
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,880
page you always delivered, So it should be interesting dam

1095
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:53,039
to see throughout the season. What have we not talked

1096
00:47:53,039 --> 00:47:55,679
about so far? And that was the end thing, but

1097
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,840
we can leave that anything else that specifically we haven't

1098
00:47:58,840 --> 00:47:59,599
touched upon yet.

1099
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Just it was interesting that the tackling the

1100
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,800
topic of like, you want to help people, that's what

1101
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,199
this place is supposed to be, but like they're literally

1102
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,400
bringing in too many people. So yeah, just uh, that's

1103
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,280
just always like a tough idea and these like post

1104
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,920
apocalyptic survival stories, so it's uh, I like how they

1105
00:48:26,159 --> 00:48:28,199
they highlighted that on just like the difficulty of that

1106
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,280
decision and the reality of it, And I imagine that'll

1107
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,679
be well maybe not, but I imagine that'll be something

1108
00:48:34,679 --> 00:48:36,920
that kind of just evolves as we keep going on

1109
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,679
with this show, we interact with more survivors, and we've

1110
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,039
already had like the the man versus man threats of

1111
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:48,519
the previous season, not necessarily the infected, So yeah, that's

1112
00:48:48,519 --> 00:48:50,480
gonna be an interesting threat to tackle.

1113
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,119
Speaker 1: He's stills just his cutthroat just about scientists. He's like, yeah,

1114
00:48:54,159 --> 00:48:56,480
well came out there is.

1115
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 5: A white coat a sign.

1116
00:49:00,159 --> 00:49:13,039
Speaker 2: Just honey, that's the first scientist that they see in

1117
00:49:13,039 --> 00:49:15,400
the village that they all come in and and everything.

1118
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,599
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the house is just over there. Joel's can

1119
00:49:17,639 --> 00:49:19,320
come check on you later, And then like, hone, either

1120
00:49:19,599 --> 00:49:23,679
fucking kid. Yeah, Joel's just there like they just specialized

1121
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,280
in chicken pox. That's it. Leave us alone, like they're

1122
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,800
just here to help us with the pots. But yeah, no,

1123
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,239
that'll be good. And then we got too because I

1124
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,760
can't remember for the life of me, I don't think Tommy, yeah,

1125
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,440
because that kid's younger. I don't I don't even know

1126
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,360
if any girlfriend. But they all also stashed. Tommy's married

1127
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:40,920
or with a lady and has a kid now. So

1128
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,800
now Joel's like an uncle. And I thought that was

1129
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,760
a fun scene too. I think it's great when you

1130
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,760
have Joel in one scene talking about just letting in

1131
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,880
and some people die outside the wall, and then it

1132
00:49:49,039 --> 00:49:51,199
be like are you killing the monsters? Like he's just

1133
00:49:51,199 --> 00:49:54,360
like this the fucking uncle mode and everything. So h

1134
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:59,239
I like that dichotomy mm hmmm uh. And then we

1135
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,679
ended up with so we had the shove happen. Ellie

1136
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,880
just in front of everybody because fucking Pedro's like, oh

1137
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,599
you know, or Joe's like, oh you should one just

1138
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:11,880
I love always like oh, your your strings are whatever

1139
00:50:12,599 --> 00:50:14,400
whatever the term is. I'm not a guitar has but

1140
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,800
there your bird is baked. Yeah, and then then she's like,

1141
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:18,280
oh that's fine, I'll fix it, and he just like

1142
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,599
fucking rushes out of there the guitar like a thief.

1143
00:50:21,079 --> 00:50:24,079
But then so that happens, and then we get the party.

1144
00:50:25,119 --> 00:50:27,400
They appear there we talked about that, he pushes them,

1145
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,159
comes up, but then she motherfuckers Joel in front of everybody,

1146
00:50:30,159 --> 00:50:32,000
which is like, you know, Joel's one that want her

1147
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:33,480
to go to make an appearance. But now it's like

1148
00:50:33,519 --> 00:50:35,199
if it's even a hush hush of like oh what's

1149
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,159
going on this, you know, it doesn't even just look

1150
00:50:37,199 --> 00:50:39,000
like oh it's them fighting. It's just like she's tell

1151
00:50:39,079 --> 00:50:40,800
them leaving the fuck alone, so like, oh, you live

1152
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,480
with the guys, that's an interesting thing. But then yeah,

1153
00:50:43,519 --> 00:50:46,400
they go back. Joel's on the deck, fix the guitar,

1154
00:50:46,519 --> 00:50:48,880
playing the guitar. Ellie doesn't want anything to do with them,

1155
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,320
just b lines and goes right to right to your

1156
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,159
bedroom and then we kind of get some transition and

1157
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:57,039
panning to that pipe or whatever someone was working on

1158
00:50:57,079 --> 00:50:59,559
the beginning of the episode or near the beginning of

1159
00:50:59,599 --> 00:51:02,760
the the first sequence of the episode, and now you

1160
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:04,639
zoom in, it looks like there's some core steps grown

1161
00:51:04,679 --> 00:51:06,960
out of there. Uh, that is something that's not in

1162
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:08,519
the game, and that's why I think there's gonna be padding.

1163
00:51:08,519 --> 00:51:10,559
I think you might get a full episode of like

1164
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,079
the City's Overrun with X, Y and Z, because like

1165
00:51:14,119 --> 00:51:16,280
it's the city has a role to play, but it's

1166
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,519
not how big. I think it's gonna be. And I

1167
00:51:18,519 --> 00:51:21,239
think that's gonna be at least one episode of City

1168
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:25,119
Versus because they're so making like they're taking ones that

1169
00:51:25,159 --> 00:51:27,000
are out. They got people watching the wall, they're not

1170
00:51:27,039 --> 00:51:29,440
thinking about like, okay, what's coming within. So I think

1171
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,400
you might get an episode like I feel like every

1172
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,559
zombie undad show does that where somehow something gets in

1173
00:51:34,599 --> 00:51:36,800
and kind of fucks everything up, and I think they're

1174
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,320
gonna something's gonna happen there. So yeah, that's unpressed territory

1175
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,719
for me that they've never done anything with, like the

1176
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,039
city gets hit with something like that. Most of the

1177
00:51:45,039 --> 00:51:46,519
big events happen when they leave.

1178
00:51:46,639 --> 00:51:50,559
Speaker 3: So well, I remember watching some comparison stuff and I

1179
00:51:50,559 --> 00:51:52,800
thought the video shows, like in the game, the city

1180
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,960
gets attacked at some point.

1181
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,519
Speaker 1: I don't recall that though, like I don't recall being within.

1182
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:02,079
I thought I was talking about.

1183
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 3: Well, I'm not saying within like they they attack from

1184
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,159
the outside, and I'm only saying that because this was

1185
00:52:07,159 --> 00:52:09,519
a pipe from the outside going in. And remember in

1186
00:52:09,599 --> 00:52:12,400
season one they said, well that the like the ends

1187
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:16,679
of these quarter SEPs. Fun guy, Yeah, when it detects

1188
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,039
something in one spot, it sends a signal to all

1189
00:52:19,079 --> 00:52:21,679
the way to them miles away, and they'll respond to it.

1190
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,760
So I think, Okay, these in this pipe, it's just

1191
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,440
like the tips of these quartersteps. It's not going to

1192
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,800
become anything further. But then when this flair dropped there,

1193
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:29,960
it's it tingled with them, like oh shit, so it's

1194
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:34,159
gonna send a whole horde of these clickers to their base.

1195
00:52:34,199 --> 00:52:36,679
I think, Okay, that's how I'm interpreting.

1196
00:52:36,679 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: It might be a variation. Yeah, you could be right, Yeah,

1197
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,480
it could be. It could be that then, because yeah,

1198
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,480
if it's I don't think it's attack on the inside.

1199
00:52:43,519 --> 00:52:44,800
So yeah, it might be that because I know there

1200
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,360
is a situation that gets them kind of leaving and

1201
00:52:47,519 --> 00:52:49,880
moving around. But yeah, you might be right on that,

1202
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,760
so I have to I'd have to think about that.

1203
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,159
I'm looking. Of course, they don't see anything like that

1204
00:52:55,599 --> 00:52:58,199
goes to that specific of it, and I always remember

1205
00:52:58,239 --> 00:52:59,920
more of the human baseball points. So yeah, we'll see.

1206
00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:02,000
If it's just that, then then we're fine. If it's

1207
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,440
something gets inside, that's that's definitely something new. But again,

1208
00:53:05,559 --> 00:53:08,320
with it being a show, they might they might padd

1209
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:12,119
some stuff out and add some stuff, but hopefull everyone survives.

1210
00:53:12,119 --> 00:53:16,039
Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, I'll have to wait and see.

1211
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, anything else before we get out of here.

1212
00:53:21,199 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 2: I like the breakdown of the breakers that uh springs

1213
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,320
good old you know, electrical knowledge. There he was, he

1214
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,119
was spitting some some good knowledge.

1215
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 4: Is that true, Kirkling. I got to just go and

1216
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:32,920
place the springs.

1217
00:53:33,119 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 2: I've never I've never done that, but I've never been

1218
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,119
in the apocalypse. Normally, if if one's broken, I just

1219
00:53:37,159 --> 00:53:39,519
toss it and go buy another one. So uh yeah,

1220
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,280
maybe you should test it.

1221
00:53:41,199 --> 00:53:43,280
Speaker 1: And then come back and give the show one.

1222
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 5: So he fucking lied, try to fix it. It doesn't

1223
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:47,599
fix it just lights the whole house on fire.

1224
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:53,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've lost everything, thanks Last of Us. But uh well,

1225
00:53:53,679 --> 00:53:56,400
there you go. We'll be back next week at some point.

1226
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,840
We're figuring that out, uh date wise, because it's a

1227
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,960
same night as WrestleMania two or resume at night two,

1228
00:54:03,039 --> 00:54:05,400
and I don't we we don't know, assass of telling

1229
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,480
me all these reviews that Tara will be gone. Maybe

1230
00:54:07,519 --> 00:54:10,119
so we'll we'll go back and see what's happening. So

1231
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,239
uh yeah, until then, promise you it'll not be boring

1232
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:14,159
by